[00:00] P4C0: check dmesg, did anything crash? [00:00] P4C0: that sounds like a possible driver oops [00:01] nullboy: nop, looks normal [00:02] nullboy: nothing on the logs but suddently i lost the desktop effects on kde4 [00:05] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:05] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.136.178) left irc: "leaving" [00:05] agentc0re: heh actually it's well commented [00:06] i guess the real problem is that i'm sometimes lazy and dislike reading :P [00:06] antler: Hahah [00:07] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:07] antler: I'm learning too. I'm sure if one of the pro's around here that use slamd64 wanted to have it built for slamd64, they would've had it done by now. [00:08] c'est la vie [00:08] Eh? [00:08] suck is life [00:08] such* [00:08] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.62.144) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:09] honestly though, ive noticed my biggest problem is working on my laptop [00:09] i feel so constrained by the tiny screen, keys, and attached mouse [00:09] even though i have an external version of all three [00:09] Cotowar: by a gyro mouse :P [00:10] that's your Biggest problem? [00:10] yea, i feel like i cant do anything useful [00:10] my laptop has a full sized keyboard and a nipple, that is all I need [00:10] nullboy: to add to the fun.. I turned on combined logs so I could see Referers.. time to catch more leechers :) [00:10] lol [00:10] if i want to write a program, i go down and get on my desktop, even though my laptop is more powerful [00:10] lol @ Dominian [00:11] looks like after all my ati driver is not going so well :p [00:11] Dominian: Now you just need to write a cronjob that will add leechers to the .htaccess rule automatically. :D [00:11] I dont know, I just hate programming on this thing. I mainly use it for notes in class, though I want a netbook for that so I dont have to carry around a super duper expensive laptop [00:12] Cotowar: And you're complaining about small keys and attached mouse? netbook is half as large! [00:12] i only want it for notes [00:12] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [00:12] i dont even look at the computer in class. but when i program i like a big open area [00:13] like I use a Micron ps/2 keyboard from the early 90's to program with [00:13] its got monster keys that are louder than a train, but whatever [00:14] I prefer my thinkpad's keyboard even to my desktop [00:14] i like my thinkpads keyboard too, but when I program i get into a sort of "zone" where I need everything to be a certain way [00:14] bleh, I cant find the xorg.conf tweaks to get the tv-out working [00:14] IDK [00:14] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:14] can someone point me to one? [00:14] twolf, what thinkpad do you have>? [00:14] Cotowar: T-60 [00:15] you? [00:15] Nice [00:15] T61 [00:15] pwnd [00:15] lol [00:15] hehe [00:15] Honestly though, I wish i had a 60 [00:15] I like mine because it has a stadard monitor instead of widescreen [00:16] more vertical space [00:16] my 61 has almost no hardware compatibility, and a 100GB HDD is the biggest I get [00:16] you have the 14" [00:16] ? [00:16] yeah [00:16] yea, thats nicer for laptop bags [00:16] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.34.60) joined ##slackware. [00:17] I put a 320GB in recently [00:17] hmm, hows it running? [00:17] runs great [00:17] 7200K [00:17] very nice [00:17] Action: Dominian wants to get 2 x 500GB for his laptop [00:18] for some reason i want to say my drive is SCSI, but I dont know why [00:18] I could put a second hd in if I removed the cdrom [00:18] but 320G is good for now [00:18] what interface was your drive twolf? [00:18] sata [00:19] okay [00:19] it is real easy to change the drive on a thinkpad though, one screw [00:19] i swear i saw somewhere that i had an scsi, but ive never heard of that in laptops, and my drive is 7200 not 15k [00:20] yea, i really want to get a bigger one, im using like 85% of mine right now, and thats with /home compressed [00:20] well, i shouldnt say that [00:20] I got the 320 at bestbuy on sale for $99 [00:20] all my personal stuff is tar.bz2'ed [00:20] wd [00:20] oh very nice [00:20] 5 year warranty [00:20] yep [00:21] :) [00:21] do you ever look at lenovo's website? [00:21] or rather, their newest products? [00:21] Cotowar: I got a X61 for my girlfriend recently so I was on there a lot trying to decide [00:21] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] yea, i didnt know if i wanted a T or an X. [00:22] my laptop has a 160GB 5400 disk [00:22] I prefer my T, but the x is amazing for how small it is, and it gets like 6 hours on a battery [00:23] yea [00:23] thats why i got the 9-cell [00:23] i used to get like 7 hours on it [00:23] I only get 3 on my 6 cell [00:23] that was windows though, i did notice a drop in lifespan with linux, though i dont know why [00:23] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [00:23] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:24] maybe its just reading differently. ive never timed it with a stopwatch or anything [00:24] I think xp does better than linux without tweaking [00:24] wdyy (n=wdyy@211.138.36.86) left irc: "Powered by fIRC v0.2.7, the android IRC client." [00:24] on battery [00:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.34) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:24] yea, and im ashamed to say what my linux is [00:24] :( [00:24] this is how the Dell D series laptops are setup. you can put optical, HD, battery in the bay http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/10573.jpg [00:25] thats wicked [00:25] nullboy: yeah you can do that with mine as well [00:25] twolf: yeah the ibm bays are the same deal [00:25] I like having a dvd though [00:25] really? [00:25] i didnt know i could do that [00:25] thats sweet shit [00:25] Cotowar: your drive will pop right out [00:25] yea, it does all the time [00:26] i keep an extra HD module for backing up and a battery for long hauls [00:26] but i didnt know i could put a bettery in there is what i mean [00:26] thats wicked [00:26] I am pretty much always near a plugin so I don't really worry about battery, I don't travel much any more [00:26] my laptop never leaves the plug [00:26] agentc0re: http://pastebin.ca/1378619 [00:27] and my li-ion doesnt hate me [00:27] Cotowar: dude you'll like this start reading http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki [00:27] twolf, i have to say though, i was definitely NOT impressed with IBM's performance [00:27] i've used a lot of that to get all of my Dell's parts working under linux [00:27] amazingly enough, the ibm and dell laptops are fairly similar [00:28] well, at least the T IBMs and D series dells [00:28] i asked for an integrated webcam and integrated bluetooth, and got neither, though they did upgrade my screen res for free [00:28] ty for the link. bookmarked and foxmarked [00:29] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/UltraBay [00:29] ooo! [00:29] dell calls it media bay, ibm calls it ultrabay [00:29] Cotowar: I have been really happy with the performance of my T-60 with a C2D and 2GB ram [00:30] c2d? i dont know what that is [00:30] until I built a new desktop it was the fastest computer I had ever had [00:30] core 2 duo [00:30] i think IBM and dell are the only laptops i'd ever consider owning at this point [00:30] nullboy: agreed [00:30] antler: it worked? [00:31] and twolf, yea i have those as well, and they are crazy fast. i had a hard time maxing my ram when i tried it a few months back [00:31] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:32] i had almost every program opened simultaneously, and this puppy stayed cool and hardly lagged at all. I did notice my GPU is a little weak, but whatever [00:32] agentc0re: http://pastebin.ca/1378625 [00:32] my gpu is ati x1400, more than enough for a laptop [00:33] i'm happy that my x1600 is collecting dust [00:33] my mom got a thinkpad T42 from work, and even THAT is good to go. and my dad has some Dell, though I dont know the model, and that thing runs surfcam like a dream [00:33] I built a new desktop late last year and hardly use it [00:33] i dont know what gpu i have [00:33] I spend all my time on my thinkpad [00:34] the only laptops ive seen outperform my thinkpad are other thinkpads too [00:34] antler: I think the error is above what you posted. [00:35] and im really impressed with the quality of the parts in this thing. i've seen a lot of HP laptops break down and die within a few months of purchase [00:35] I hope to not have to replace mine for a long time [00:35] yea, i cant afford another one.. [00:36] though i did get a corporate discount because my dads friend's company does business with them [00:36] saved like $200 [00:36] nice [00:36] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:36] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [00:37] yea, little did i know they would fidge my whole order and make me wait an extra month to get it [00:37] lenovo seems to of held up the reputation of the thinkpad line from ibm [00:37] yes they have [00:37] agentc0re: i don;t think so, but here: http://pastebin.ca/1378627 [00:38] and i have to say, when i sat down in my first com sci class, my thinkpad attracted quite a bit of attention from the other goons [00:38] hehe [00:38] and its created this obsession in me that makes me look at other peoples laptops [00:38] pattwo (n=pat@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [00:38] trying to find something better... [00:38] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [00:38] still looking... [00:38] most people drive chevy's when you are driving bmw [00:39] yea [00:39] antler: Hrm, weird. What did you change(if anything)? i don't understand why it failed to be honest. [00:39] i would like to upgrade it though [00:39] maybe to a W series? [00:39] lol [00:39] like, the W700ds? [00:39] updated what you said, left the script alone [00:39] agentc0re: ^^ [00:40] what does the p stand for in T61p? [00:40] I hope to get at least 2 more years and I bet there will be some really badass stuff by then [00:40] does that mean its not widescreen? [00:41] Cotowar: I think it is just a later revision with some extras [00:41] and yea, im going to run this thing into the ground. and when it dies, i will cry [00:41] oh, cause i was like "where [00:41] "where's MY p?" [00:41] have you any experience with the X tablet? [00:42] I think the p has a really powerfull gpu that sucks battery fast [00:42] oh [00:42] okay [00:42] the tablets are nice but pricey [00:42] yea, i was just wondering if they were cheaply made [00:42] i know of some other companies who have cheap tablets [00:43] I know someone with a gateway tablet that is a real pos [00:43] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:43] spent lit $2000 on it [00:43] yea [00:43] see, for that kind of money he could have gotten a tricked out thinkpad. :) [00:44] exactly [00:44] and the biggest thing of all, at least on mine, is the passive cooling [00:44] bleh, still researching how to do video out on linux [00:45] what are the xorg commands to do it? [00:45] i HATE fan noise. i can hear it above music, TV, people talking, and anything else in the room. it drives me insane, and knowing my computer has no fans is great [00:45] redtricycle: which card? 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[00:46] Dominian: myspace kid still has lemonparty...lol [00:46] hehe [00:47] i like fans, lotta fans... the noise is comforting :P [00:47] Cotowar: yeah I see you h it the page lol [00:47] twolf radeon x300 [00:47] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:47] I have Referer stuff turned on in my logs now [00:47] lol [00:47] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:47] Cotowar: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11529 [00:47] thsoe are the four sites I've found so far [00:47] Do I need to look up the refresh rate on my TV? it's an old Pioneer Pro-100 [00:48] ive been watching it periodically. i tried to message him telling him his background really emphasized his toughness, but hes got it set to only allow friends to contact [00:48] dude, by far the geekpicks is the best. thats a serious post site, not some wigger faggot's personal blog [00:49] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [00:49] and the post context is hilarious [00:49] yes it is [00:49] Cotowar: "wigger faggot" <----- do you have issues? [00:49] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [00:50] his picture makes me angry [00:51] as farva said, i want to punchisize his face...for free [00:51] heh it's nice to see a person lose control of his emotions :) [00:51] lol [00:51] i mean seriously, way to be tough on the internet [00:51] redtricycle, it's probably going to be somewherebetween 50 and 60. [00:52] ccfreak2k: yea, its best to start low do you dont break the monitor [00:52] or TV [00:52] If the monitor/TV in question was made after, oh, 1990, it won't break because of a bad mode setting. [00:53] i didnt know that. i just knew that going too high could possibly break it. good to know though [00:54] and antler: you have to admit, people who are "hard" behind a keyboard are irritating. 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[00:56] sooo.....i was watching jepordy today and thinking about what i would do if i won that show, and i decided i would not pay off my loans/bills, but rather i would buy a wicked sweet computer [00:57] hmm [00:57] it better be so wicked sweet that you can charge admission [00:57] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-237-227-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [00:58] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:58] yes. i would build an old school computer in the spare bedroom that can do mathematical functions [00:59] or i would build a media PC the way I WANT it to be, instead of using a 13 year old gateway that fills 30% of the HD with a standard slackware install [00:59] you should be checking the dumpsters behind PC repair shops [01:00] you cna almost certainly find something better than a 13yro system [01:00] So yea, I live in the back woods of North Carolina. there are no such shops [01:01] do you think waste management would give me stuff? [01:01] offer them a lemonparty [01:01] go to your nearest transfer station and see [01:01] you'd be surprised [01:01] Cotowar: well i can see it would be irritating to some [01:02] antler: yes, yes it is [01:02] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [01:02] shouldn'tlet that get to you, though :) [01:03] i cant help it. its like a slow old woman driving in front of me when im in a hurry. few things make me more furious [01:04] Cotowar: is it like rain on your wedding day? It's a free ride when you've already paid ? [01:04] antler: pretty much yes [01:04] and nullboy: you mean to tell me you know of something better than my Pentium 2 and SDRAM? [01:05] "ironic" --alanis morissette :P [01:05] might be DDR, im not sure... [01:05] i thought it was a free ride going the wrong way? [01:05] www.lyrics.com [01:05] lo [01:05] l [01:06] antler had it http://www.lyrics.com/index.php/artists/lyric/alanis-morissette-lyrics-ironic [01:07] well shit [01:07] Dominian, im looking at the other sites that leeched. they are pretty funny too. How did you catch them BTW? [01:07] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:08] Can anyone help me get my mouse whell working? [01:08] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] ->wheel [01:08] yxz97: you're still fighting with that? [01:08] since when, sunday? [01:08] http://slackwiki.org/Scroll_Wheel ? [01:09] I just turn on my computer (home computer) until now, why ?? [01:10] how about my logitech mouse? does slackware support the search, forward, back, and scroll click buttons? [01:10] or how about tild scrolling? [01:10] you just map them to what you want [01:10] yxz97: I just recall you being banned some months ago [01:10] nullboy: that makes sense [01:10] yxz97: have you tried setting option "protocol" "auto" in the x-to-tha-org dot c-to-tha-mutha-fsckin-onf? [01:10] i should look into that for my linux...though i dont want to end up making it even more unstable than it already is... [01:11] my slackware systems aren't unstable [01:11] Okay, I dont get "Modeline" [01:11] not everyones as cool as you [01:12] How do I know what's the correct modeline to use? [01:12] :P [01:12] for my radeon x300? [01:12] i have unstable episodes from playing with unstable stuff but the stock system is really stable [01:13] yea, im not on slackware. ive not gotten around to converting over, mostly because i have stuff to do and would rather do that after school gets out [01:13] heh yeah, i've never heard that before: 'my slackware system is too unstable' [01:13] im not on slackware [01:13] redtricycle, the typical answer is "you don't because X figures it out for you". [01:13] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:14] "A similar experiment in Moscow virtually collapsed when a multinational team of men and women were allowed to drink alcohol on the eve of the millennium, and simmering tensions between Russian and non-Russian volunteers exploded in a fight for the affections of a female Canadian scientist." [01:14] lmao [01:15] nullboy, yea, though i agree with the comment saying that it needs a pic [01:15] hahaha [01:15] pics or it didn't happen [01:15] i just chill out in here because A.) you guys are cooler than my distro's channel B.) the help in here is for REAL issues, not "where is the terminal" type of questions, and C.) I plan on eventually switching over [01:15] they MUST put a pic of the canadian if they are going to talk about it [01:15] antler, Do yo mean Option "Protocol" "PS/2" to Option "Protocol" "auto" [01:16] yxz97: i do mean that you long-eared galoot [01:16] yxz97: your protocol is set to PS/2? [01:16] yxz97: set it to IMPS/2 man [01:16] nullboy, is it bad that i have read about half of the stories on /. today last week? /. seems outdated to me... [01:16] i bet it works after that [01:17] what is IMPS/2 ? [01:17] i pasted this the first time and again today already http://slackwiki.org/Scroll_Wheel [01:17] yxz97, does some more buttons [01:17] IntelliMouse PS/2. [01:17] basically its mousier. [01:17] quote "And I had to change the mouse protocol, so if it doesn't work you should change it to IMPS/2..." [01:18] lol [01:18] nullboy: yxz97 was never known to read docs very well [01:18] I'm reading such URL.. [01:18] nullboy: you honestly Don't remember yxz97 ? [01:18] two days ago i pasted that [01:18] one of the most famous trolls here, at one point. [01:19] lol [01:19] i just got an idea. i should mod my mouse to make squeeking noises when you click it [01:19] trolls? excuse me [01:19] Do I need restart X? [01:20] yes [01:20] do I need to do anything special to let Linux know that I have something plugged into the s-video port? [01:20] OOO, do that with CTRL + ALT + Backspace [01:20] The Purple 8 Ball says: Unclear [01:20] redtricycle, "Linux" doesn't care. That's up to the video driver. [01:20] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) left irc: "Leaving" [01:20] nullboy: dude, you're that guy from 'memento' [01:20] antler: I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one... [01:20] /dev/bollocks says: reintermediate synergistic systems [01:21] geez enough of that [01:21] thumbs: i remember his swearing episode, too. [01:21] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [01:21] ccfreak2k: I guess what I'm asking is: does the standard radeon drive detect the s-video port? (I assume it does...) [01:21] just covering my bases [01:21] It should. [01:22] Possibly. [01:22] antler: and banning :) [01:22] the mouse wheel is working, kind regards [01:22] The manpage will tell you. [01:22] is there a way to manually delete cookies in firefox? [01:22] thumbs: yep :) [01:22] Although I don't think you can change displays on-the-fly. [01:22] or to set it to block certain site's cookies [01:22] Cotowar: tools > clear private data [01:22] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-1417fd3763054f2d) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:22] Cotowar: use noscript [01:23] nullboy: i want to view the site, but i dont want cookies stored. is that even possible? [01:23] i dont even know [01:23] another question, I have downloaded install and configure nvidia driver from nvidia.com [01:23] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-17a1c7838624869d) joined ##slackware. [01:23] littering annnnnnnnd? [01:24] Cotowar: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=cookies&cat=all [01:24] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:24] I just launch nvidia-settings change my resolution to 1280-1024, but after logout from X i get the old resolution how can I keep the configuration? [01:24] yxz97: you need to summon the almighty to set it permanently [01:24] is there a "save" button? [01:24] that usually does the trick [01:25] or just edit xorg.conf [01:25] you'd still need to summon the almighty to edit xorg.conf [01:25] Yeah I didn't see the option..sorry [01:26] nullboy, ty for the FF add on [01:26] i didnt even think about looking there. [01:27] yxz97: i was just being silly. su to root, run nvidia-settings, then save to xorg.conf [01:28] I already did thanks [01:28] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] antler, 8-) [01:29] hey [01:29] well it's nice to see that he is well-behaved now [01:29] who me? [01:29] no, the next door enighbourgh [01:30] so we are supposed to talk 10k step per day [01:30] that's ~ 5 miles [01:30] how is Patrick? [01:30] talk/walk [01:30] klodovik (n=klodovik@unaffiliated/klodovik) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:31] walking 5 miles takes a long time [01:31] klodovik (n=klodovik@unaffiliated/klodovik) joined ##slackware. [01:31] man, i walk from my futon to the bathroom, and from the bathroom to the fridge [01:31] are the proprietary ATI drivers good now? [01:31] thats about it [01:31] spread out over 15 hours or so it doesn't [01:31] i'll gps myself tonight [01:32] we'll see just how long it takes [01:32] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:32] this is a bit funny, but i decided to ditch my non-genuine version of windows for a legit copy through the MSDN nonsense from my school. so i downloaded it, burned it to a disk, booted it and tried to install. out of habit i deleted the old windows ntfs partition, then windows would not let me create a new partition because i already hit there 'limit' of 3 partitions... i rebooted and apparently deleting a partition wipes the mbr to [01:32] o, so i had to reinstall that with the slackware disk. i went to fdisk to make a new partition out of the empty space, it was /dev/sda1, but now it moved everything up 1 and the windows partition is now /dev/sda4, but its in the first blocks on the disk, and now slackware's / got moved from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1. so i changed my fstab and slackware booted and works fine, but i'd like to change back the partition numbers, is that po [01:32] ssible? [01:32] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [01:33] i had sda1 - windows, sda 2 - /, sda3 - swap, sda 4 - /home, now sda 1 is /, sda 2 is swap, sda 3 is /home, and sda 4 is being formatted as ntfs for windows., but in physical order on the disk, sda 4 is the first partition, not the 4th [01:34] Fenix-Dark, do you know if it matters that sda2 is inside sda1 on the physical disk? because thats how mine is [01:35] Cotowar, not sure, so far it just seems like fdisk is complaining [01:35] or warning me rather [01:35] yea, it warned me too, but honestly i think it should be fine, as long as the reference is good, the name shouldn't matter [01:35] i just have a feeling like this may lead to more oddities when i go back and install windows [01:35] yea i think it probably will [01:36] what limit of 3 partitions? [01:36] antler, per hard disk [01:37] Fenix-Dark: i think it's a limit of 4 primaries and unlimited logicals [01:37] me_ (n=me_@84.13.163.136) joined ##slackware. [01:37] sorry 3 primaries and unlimted logicals [01:37] you can have more than 3, but windows cant make them [01:37] thats how that works [01:37] antler, in linux land its 4 primaries, but windows cant make a 4th [01:38] ^^ what he said [01:38] lol [01:39] mkntfs completed successfully. Have a nice day. [01:40] Action: agentc0re kicks himself [01:40] wtf?! [01:40] antler: I know why it's been failing for me this whole time now! [01:40] nvidia stopped having nforce 4 drivers on their website [01:40] nvm, they moved it to 'legacy' [01:41] antler: I made a typo early, early on and ffmpeg installed libs locally. I thought i removed them all, but one was still hangging around and that's what's been holding this back. grrr! [01:41] got me worried for a bit [01:41] agentc0re: so did it build? [01:41] ugh. stupid me for thinking that "remove all" and "remove all selected" were synonyms [01:41] antler: I just caught onto it this build, so i just restarted it. [01:41] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.23.html [01:41] agentc0re, ffmpeg is fun to build on slackware, cause you have to play find and seek with the 8 deps [01:42] Fenix-Dark, you could also find them once, and write down where you got them... [01:42] Cotowar, i'm usually not that organized [01:42] antler: do you have an alias for make -j### ? if you do, you'll need to remove it temporarily for this build. [01:42] it'll be 3:00 am and i'll think... man i need ffmpeg [01:42] I make text files for everything [01:43] then i get ffmpeg [01:43] I have a file labeled "hard to find" where i add links to all the shit that took me forever to untangle from the interweb [01:43] lol [01:43] now i just keep slackbuilds of that stuff i made [01:43] antler: My brain is kind of fried. I could give you the script now but i can't remember which packages i've updated. You'd have to check the versions from the script versus what you have. Or wait till tomorrow and i'll upload it all to my site for grabbing :), assuming this works. [01:43] rather the .tgz packages [01:44] taquito (n=rich@75.40.190.90) left irc: "User disconnected" [01:44] yea, thats a good idea too [01:44] i dont have slackware though, so slackbuilds are of no use to me really [01:44] why not? you're in the ##slackware channel [01:44] yes. yes i am [01:44] he's FBI [01:45] don't talk to him [01:45] thats it ^^ [01:45] nullboy, thanks for the clarification [01:45] agentc0re: screw it, i grab the package, if it works and you don't mind [01:45] nullboy, and does it matter if your disk partitions aren't in physical order? [01:45] no [01:45] ok [01:45] i posted already why im in here as opposed to my own distro's channel, but you might not have seen it [01:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-20-133-110.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:45] Cotowar, nope, just joined here a little while ago [01:45] as long as all of the operating systems are setup with the correct device paths / ids it should be fine [01:46] oh, here [01:46] i just chill out in here because A.) you guys are cooler than my distro's channel B.) the help in here is for REAL issues, not "where is the terminal" type of questions, and C.) I plan on eventually switching over [01:46] hahaha [01:46] nullboy, yea its fine now, though i think i might hit some trouble when i go to install windows next [01:46] Fenix-Dark: then make the windows partition under linux first [01:46] sidmario_ (n=m@200.158.63.127) joined ##slackware. [01:46] Action: Cotowar waves to eviljames [01:46] nullboy, i just did to be on the safe side [01:46] Cotowar: sup? [01:47] dude, the other night you said you were just going to go quick so you could drive home [01:47] you never came back [01:47] Nick change: sidmario_ -> Guest61739 [01:47] i thought you died [01:47] last time for some odd reason windows installed its self to the 'M' partition when there were no other windows readable partitions on the disk [01:47] Fenix-Dark: keep the slackware install disks around so you can fix lilo after windows breaks it [01:47] nullboy, yup [01:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:47] also, if just the MBR was blown out you probably didn't need to reinstall [01:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] Fenix-Dark: isnt windows nice to play with? I personally like the "Start" button. It makes me feel productive [01:48] Cotowar: heh yikes.I probably came back, but have been thinking about/working towards workingon a different project :D [01:48] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Connection reset by peer [01:48] Cotowar: haven't been chillin too terribly much in ##slackware.. [01:48] nullboy, ? i deleted the partition with windows, and now i'm running slackware off the other partition [01:48] oh [01:48] Cotowar: but I did get a hardcore noobfarming today [01:48] lol [01:48] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:48] Cotowar, unfortunately the latest blizzard update to warcraft 3 nuked wine support, and i need my fix [01:49] haha! [01:49] how is / was w3 in wine? [01:49] antler: my experience was great [01:49] antler, perfect [01:49] w3 works flawlessly in wine [01:49] oh wow [01:49] videos, audio, "3d graphics" ec [01:49] man, i cant even get wine to work... [01:49] though you need to rename the /warcraft3/movies folder [01:49] or the game crashes on start [01:49] antler: It works flawlessly as a 32 bit on slamd64 no less [01:49] Cotowar: get the Slackbuild for it? [01:49] Fenix-Dark: I didn't even have that problem. [01:50] eviljames: Fenix-Dark : and battlenet? [01:50] oh, dunno about battlenet [01:50] antler, as of now its nuked [01:50] before it was fine [01:50] agentc0re, its not me thats the problem. its my dreadful OS [01:50] well (imo) w3 w/o battlenet leaves much to be desired [01:51] antler, which is why i went as far as reinstalling windows [01:51] Cotowar: ? I thought you were using slackware. [01:51] antler: I still haven't even finished playing war3 from when it was released. [01:51] eviljames: lol [01:51] eviljames, it has amazing replayability (battle.net) [01:51] antler: let alone gotten onto battle.net... do you know if it has simple ip-ip capability? [01:51] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:51] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:51] heh i never finished warcraft2. [01:51] eviljames: no time, or just a subpar warcraft3 skillset? [01:52] customs are great though now they're mostly dota (i prefer footmen frenzy) and the regular ladder matches are fun as always [01:52] speaking of ffmpeg, i just built svn 18299 [01:52] Fenix-Dark: I play games so little that it has incredible replayability. [01:52] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:52] and rebuilt transcode then too [01:52] antler: time, for sure. [01:52] i don't think i even finished starcraft (got close) didn't play much of SC BW. [01:52] antler: I enjoy the game, which is why I keep it, but I play for an hour every 3-6 monthsw. [01:52] eviljames, i'm ashamed at the sheer number of hours i spent playing warcraft 3 [01:52] agentc0re:not all of us are privileged. im working on getting my media PC set up on slackware, but its fighting me every step. [01:52] and its still as much fun as the day i got it [01:52] i loved w2, it was great [01:52] Fenix-Dark: I wouldn't be. That game = awesome. [01:52] Cotowar: agreed, w2 was awesome too. [01:52] eviljames: i'm not sure if it has ip-ip capability [01:52] anyone play heroes of might and magic? [01:52] only few games (mostly blizzard games) keep my interest that long [01:52] atm its warcraft 3 and team fortress 2 [01:53] and I think everyone will agree with me that Myst (and Riven) = some of the best games ever. [01:53] eviljames: agree [01:53] srsly, I could play myst all damn day if I didn't know that guides were on the internet. [01:53] me_ (n=me_@84.13.163.136) left irc: Connection timed out [01:53] eviljames: they both kinda scared me [01:53] Because w/ guides you can wrap it in a couple of hours [01:53] eviljames: i never played Riven, but Myst was ownage [01:53] only FPS games can keep my attention long enough [01:53] i believe there is a patch that halfway fixes bnet, but ladder games crash now so its of no practical use to me [01:53] grab (n=at@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Cotowar: Riven = the sequel to Myst = ownage++ [01:53] oh [01:53] Cotowar: I think I have a dvd iso somewhere no less :D [01:53] i like wesnoth [01:54] nullboy: doom2 kicks ass... [01:54] if you still have your cd keys for your blizzard games, go to www.battle.net and register them [01:54] antler: you mean doom 1 [01:54] its their online game management equivalent to steam [01:54] whichever one came first :P [01:55] loved doom [01:55] i only played doom 3 [01:55] blah. doom 3 [01:55] never beat it for various reasons (formats) [01:55] but i had fun playing it with a co-op mod [01:56] Fenix-Dark: isn't the nick sc inspired? [01:56] yes [01:57] another game i spent way too much time playing [01:57] man blizzard makes some of the best games... [01:57] blizzard rts games are like chess, takes an hour to learn, a lifetime to master [01:57] yea [01:58] honestly i like the W3 type of game best, im not really into the whole CoD4 thing. Blizzard definitely makes me :D [01:58] Fenix-Dark: when i was in s.k, they had 24 hour channels dedicated to sc tournaments [01:58] heh [01:58] its their national past time/sport [01:59] top players get paid big cash [01:59] i found starcraft to have a mind numbing effect [01:59] each game took so long you'd be practically drooling on yourself at the end of it [01:59] ...granted i played BGH [02:00] Nick change: koojoo -> koojooawy [02:00] heh [02:00] i always did 3v3 shared base [02:00] i did those too [02:00] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:00] i liked bgh more [02:01] most of my university days: weed, sc, papers, more weed, more sc [02:01] antler: sounds like me, except it was less papers, less sc, more girls, and more beer [02:02] now you've moved on, and spend your time doing real manly drugs, like PCP. and you play manly games like gears of war 2 [02:02] lol [02:02] ;) [02:02] That's what my life was until I came back to computer life about 2 years ago [02:02] I was in a rawk band yeaaaaa!!!!!!! [02:02] eviljames: nice [02:02] lol [02:03] eviljames: i just play the game. [02:03] Cotowar: the game is dope. Me and gf used to play all the time. she is a pro drummer, it's crazy [02:04] (so, to tally up her bonus points, she runs slackware AND rules at rockband. anybody jealous?) [02:04] i'll hack her gibson [02:04] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-153-48.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:04] nullboy: I'd let you, considering how awesome you are [02:05] dude, i rock the guitar. i used to do GH2 on expert and had like half the songs memorized [02:05] dang! [02:05] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) left irc: "Leaving" [02:05] I'd be all : "baby, time for you to check out the null!" [02:05] lol [02:05] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-153-48.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] dominian: myspace boy got a deleted account [02:05] 4 [02:06] oops [02:06] Cotowar: pft girls... they cling to grad students [02:07] that account is still up for me [02:07] yea. i wasnt really a "student" so to speak. i just lived on campus [02:07] chopp was trying to type "/window 4" aka "get me the hell outta here!" [02:07] that would be channel 4 on the other monitor/myth [02:07] :) [02:07] ... [02:07] :) [02:08] you'll get that card up someday antler. ;) [02:08] chopp: yeah, any day i boot windows :P [02:08] Action: chopp runs for a bucket [02:09] P4C0 (n=susana@190.141.73.196) left irc: "time to sleep" [02:09] i'm dling drivers from dfi's website. how is it acceptable for a well established computer component company to max out their uploading on files at 100kBps? [02:09] the colonel's bucket? count me in. [02:09] nvidia is way more generous with their upload speed, drivers from them download at 1.7mBps [02:10] nullboy: you're right, it is still up, i missed an "L" in my backspacing from the previous page [02:10] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:12] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [02:13] any ops in here? [02:13] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:14] sQuEE (n=narya@host57.190-30-4.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [02:14] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:14] Fenix-Dark: what mobo nf4 drivers? [02:14] antler, (for windows) dfi nf4-ultra-d chipset drivers [02:15] Fenix-Dark: alas, i'm w/o the 'ultra-d' :( [02:15] does your mobo have an absurdly noisy chipset fan? [02:16] Fenix-Dark: all dfi ultra lanpartys do [02:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:16] it was the noisiest fan in my entire pc, i ditched it for a passively cooled thermalright heatsink [02:16] its large, but silent [02:17] me_ (n=me_@84.13.163.136) joined ##slackware. [02:17] Fenix-Dark: my other fans drown that fan. i like fan noise. it all kinda evens itself out in the end :P [02:18] i cant stand it [02:18] and the dfi chipset fan was this high pitched squeal [02:18] sQuEE (n=narya@host57.190-30-4.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [02:18] a low hum is acceptable [02:19] and the active hdd popcorn noise doesnt bother me either, just high pitched fans [02:19] really want to go dfi again, but i heard that they refuse to support canada. (that's what this sales guy who sold me a video card said) [02:20] antler: ++.. fan noise is the ambient soundtrack to my life [02:20] antler: if you like fans, take a look at building one of these [02:20] http://www.2dayblog.com/images/turbo_pc_fan.jpg [02:20] antler, my newer pc has a dfi bloodiron board in it, seems fine, and has a passively cooled chipset [02:20] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [02:20] antler: sadly, in terms of video cards, I'd prefer a bullet in the head to ati [02:20] i bought an asus board, but it was DOA, so i swapped it for this one with newegg [02:20] antler: canadian video cards ftl :( [02:20] People take pc mods just a little to far sometimes.. [02:21] eviljames: rofl [02:21] Do they still make AGP boards? [02:21] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:21] cause im considering buying an AGP card for my older PC, but i dont want to get it if its not transferrable [02:21] frullet, yea, my 'mods' if you will, are practical. changing a noisy chipset fan for a silent one, and building an adapter so my front case audio jacks work with my creative labs audigy 2 zs [02:21] Cotowar: that looks like some kinda cold air induction system going on there [02:22] its a fucking turbo charger from a car [02:22] Fenix-Dark: how much was that board? [02:22] run off the motor of a belt grinder [02:22] antler, the bloodiron was $120 [02:22] intel boards are expensive, that was the best deal i found, and i like the bios on dfi boards [02:22] antler: do you know how a turbo works? [02:23] Fenix-Dark: less expensive than the ultra lanparty (when i bought it in south korea) [02:23] Cotowar: compressed air? [02:23] Cotowar: that inspires me [02:23] i paid about the same a few years ago for the nf4 ultra-d [02:23] Cotowar: because most case mods I've seen are horrific [02:24] it uses the exhaust to turn a compressor at like 15k RPM [02:24] i wanted the pc to be under $1000, and i thought $120 is plenty to spend on a motherboard [02:24] though some go for $300 [02:24] that guy is lucky hes not blasting a hole in the back of his case [02:24] eviljames: i like the guys who build their cases from scratch like the WMD or the tumbler case [02:25] antler, you should mod a leaf blower to cool your computer :) that would be nice and loud too [02:26] lol [02:26] loud noises are no longer considered to be ambient noises [02:27] the dvd-rom drive in my old computer sounds like a leaf blower, does that count? [02:28] my ultrabay in my thinkpad sounds like its crushing a car when i insert a disk [02:28] me_ (n=me_@84.13.163.136) left irc: "me_em" [02:29] eviljames: re ambient soundtrack. the house feel strange when your computer is off? [02:30] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:30] antler: k, I have a 1 bedroom apartment in vancouver (read: tiny) [02:30] antler: I (somehow) managed to convince gf to let me have 4-5 computers running at any given time [02:30] antler, i have to run my external hard drive at night or i cant sleep [02:30] antler: I get crazy if there's no fan noise. [02:30] eviljames: as it should be [02:31] eviljames, thats how i am when i go to sleep, my AC is right above my bed, now in the winter i had it running (in fan mode only) mostly for the noise [02:31] she needs to know that data > girls [02:31] eviljames: man, a tiny 1bedroom in vancouver makes me think of open windows on a slightly windy day, white window coverings, and miles davis on the turntable [02:33] antler: Some kind of blue? [02:33] eviljames: i'd like to hear the street noises if that apartment is downtown [02:33] eviljames: oh yeah [02:33] antler: Do you know van well? if so I'm @ broadway & clark(knight) st. [02:33] my friend told me about this place, wingzone, and i'm looking at their website. under the information they say "Cash & Credit Cards ONLY". how else do people usualy pay for food at restaurants? [02:33] bits of string? [02:34] eviljames: i'm in calgary, unfortunately [02:34] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:34] antler: broadway is the E-W corridor of Vancovuer proper, Knight is one of 2 N-S corridors between Van & Richmond [02:35] antler: essentially I get street noises 24/7 with the windows closed [02:35] i'm about 45 minutes from NYC [02:35] does anyone else say things like "sudo make me a sandwich" to their significant other? [02:35] Cotowar, no [02:35] i usually say, "make me a sandwitch, bitch" [02:36] eviljames: i've been there, though. i remember coffee shops and rainy days. almost a morose, estranged, and disconnected atmosphere. [02:36] eviljames: ah, ok. quite busy there, i take it [02:36] i wear earplugs [02:37] eviljames: do you and your girl drive to the interior often? [02:38] antler: We rarely leave Vancouver proper, tbh [02:38] Fenix-Dark, my last girlfriend uses Ubuntu because its easy, so she knows the meaning behind sudo. and funny ehough, shes my ex [02:38] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:38] antler: and yeah, totally busy, but I think your assessment of it being disconnected and morose is wrong [02:38] antler: the gloomy rainy atmosphere is bang-on [02:38] eviljames: what is the cost of living in van, i really want to move up there and get the hell out of NC [02:39] i like gloom, and the girls in Van are super fine [02:39] Cotowar: It's high. Can't buy a house in the city under $500g's [02:39] ouch [02:39] that sucks [02:39] Cotowar: but there are lots of burbs that are all on the subway (skytrain) [02:39] Cotowar: burnaby, coquitlam, surrey, and so on ... [02:39] okay [02:40] is it similar to chicago then? where the train is above the street? [02:40] I just prefer being in the hub, you know [02:40] Cotowar: elevated, even. the roads run under the train [02:40] eviljames: yeah, i know it's not those things. it was probably more my state of mind at the time -- high on bc grown. [02:40] if that's like Chicago, then yes [02:40] antler: I'm high on bc grown right now, brotha. :D [02:40] yea, thats the "L" in chicago, if you've ever seen ER, they show it on there sometimes [02:41] trains-railways above the street? that doesn't sound very smart.. a hell of a architectual nightmare [02:41] antler: and the moroseness probably sprang from the disconnected-ness, which is likely because you didn't say anything to the locals. [02:41] damn man just when this boy's jonesin [02:41] antler: I moved here from Edmonton a couple years ago, people here are actually crazy friendly [02:41] Ficthe, its not that bad, they make the roads and sidewalks wider, and have a center post in the middle of the street [02:42] and in chicago the terra cotta is falling off the buildings, so they put up scaffolding to protect your head rather than repair the clay [02:42] Ficthe: the downtown core is underground, but it's a bit of a show-off point. [02:42] Ficthe: after all, we do have the world's biggest completely automated transit system. [02:42] yea, and the ground isnt that great for a subway system [02:42] eviljames: oh totally. they're laid back. [02:43] its cheaper to do it up on rails than under the surface when you're that close to the water [02:43] no drivers, completely computer controlled, and since I moved here there has been precisely 1 hour of "interruption" (where the train took 10 minutes to arrive at the station instead of 5) [02:43] is weed legal in canada? [02:43] just wondering? [02:43] eviljames: i was thinking about taking the family for a drive to van, then down along the west coast all the way to cali [02:43] Cotowar: shades of grey [02:44] explain. [02:44] I think it's the dissemination of weed that's illegal [02:44] antler: go to Iowa. its more fun there [02:44] Ficthe: it has to do with quantity [02:44] it is illegal. period. [02:44] you find nice cops [02:44] that's about it [02:44] ugh. [02:44] antler: I smoke in front of a police station, it's very much shades of grey [02:44] under 28g (1oz) is a $250 fine [02:45] eviljames: it's van, man. [02:45] Rarely would there be an arrest, I've never been arrested for carrying, and I carry all day [02:45] antler: what I'm saying holds for Edmonton, too. [02:45] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] I'm an emigrant here in the US -- before moving here, I had always heard that Americans cops were the nice ones and the Canadian cops were jerks, but it seems to be the opposite [02:45] Except I'd not be stupid enough to smoke in front of a police station in edmonton [02:45] eviljames: then times have changed during my 5 year sojourn abroad [02:45] Ficthe, depends on where you are [02:45] sQuEE (n=narya@host57.190-30-4.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [02:46] Cotowar: so if you have more than 1oz, but less than 4 you're still pretty well Ok, but you'll be arrested and charged. [02:46] fortunately our justice system is really lenient on that [02:46] Ficthe, depends where you are, if you're in the burbs, the cops are usually dicks and have nothing better to do than try to convince you that you're driving drunk and give out parking tickets [02:46] Ficthe: big city cops are harsher than the country boys, there is less to do out in the sticks, so they let shit go and sometimes even party with you [02:46] In the sticks in Alberta it's the same way [02:47] the cops show up to a party to break itup, and you invite them in. turns out they just want to party too :D [02:47] i know at least 2 occasions of police joining in beer pong tourneys at college in the middle of iowa [02:47] eviljames: you're kidding? [02:47] antler: nope. [02:47] and eviljames: i only carry an 8th max, because i grew up in a place where you get robbed for more than that [02:47] eviljames: that is not the way they behave in calgary [02:47] I should disclaim that anything i say here is entirely anecdotal, and only my experience :D [02:48] what are the canadian gun laws? [02:48] sQuEE (n=narya@host57.190-30-4.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [02:48] antler: Edmonton city cops are bad, Suburb (ie: St. Albert) cops were worse, but in small towns they were all k-rad [02:48] Cotowar: super strict [02:48] shit [02:48] can i own them? [02:48] Cotowar: to get a gun you a) need a license, b) have to register it [02:48] thats not bad [02:48] yeah, that's for rifles. [02:48] no automatic weapons, period. [02:48] Cotowar, seems like you can't bring your ak-47's to canada [02:48] in the UK its practically impossible to have one [02:49] how about pistols [02:49] semi-automatics / handguns require special license. [02:49] damn [02:49] concealed carry is a whole other ball of wax [02:49] im looking at getting a 10mm [02:49] Cotowar: stick to your ubuntu, friend. [02:49] lol [02:49] but ubuntu doesnt go boom! [02:49] so if you're huting, it's no biggie. If you want recreational M-16 assault rifles, no dice. [02:49] poop [02:50] how are the canadian laws for fireworks [02:50] Fenix-Dark: they're super fun :D [02:50] dngr (n=dngr@112.118.131.22) left irc: Connection timed out [02:50] the gander mountain down the road here has a really nice new M-4 I've been looking at, though its like $800 [02:50] they're not so legal in NJ, but we go to Pennsylvania to get them [02:51] Fenix-Dark: I used to go out to the reserve and buy from the natives regularly. [02:51] eviljames, thats awesome [02:51] eviljames: i used to do that in michigan. those guys can do whatever they want [02:51] Cotowar: even more so here. They just have to deal with the whole racism thing. [02:52] so all of you guys finished college? [02:52] i know in illinois, the cops search everyone crossing the wisconsin border around the 4th of july [02:52] well... [02:52] im finished going... [02:52] Fenix-Dark: i dropped out my first time [02:52] what he said ^^ [02:52] Fenix-Dark: but i've gone back to finish my math degree (at a lazy 26...) [02:52] eviljames, math degree eh? [02:52] Cotowar: my first year in university (b.sc honours physics) was horrible. [02:52] lol [02:52] Cotowar: I realized then that I could not live my life in a lab. [02:53] eviljames, what career path did you choose? [02:53] none. [02:53] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-153-48.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:53] i'm a math major aswell [02:53] absolutely none, I don't believe in career paths [02:53] I did a year at Iowa State, 18 credits at sophomore level aerospace engineering, and i partied 6 days a week [02:53] I study math because I love it, I don't want a careet in it though. [02:53] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] i dont know how i made it past first semester,,, [02:54] i schedule for next semester tomorrow, the outlook is bleak, it looks like calc 4, intro to analysis, a bs computer science class, and a bs 'intercultural north america' class [02:54] calc 4? [02:54] i'm looking to be an actuary, so the theoretical/proof math isn't of great necessity to me [02:54] yea [02:54] nice! [02:54] eviljames, cool, do you have any interest in euler's project ( http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=problems ) or anything like that? [02:54] eviljames: you are lucky to have found out early that it was not right for you [02:54] antler: not really, because I wasted 5 years afterwards trying to be a rock star. ;) [02:54] i didnt know there WAS a calc 4...i only had calc 1-3, diff eq, and linear algebra [02:55] eviljames: imo it is better to try for something you want and fail than to be successful at something you don't want [02:55] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.21) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Ficthe: i've done some of them, but I'd need to re-study at this point [02:55] Ficthe: I've been out of math classrooms, doing other shit for the last year and change.. [02:56] antler: except when that failure costs you $35k, and lands you a minimum wage job at dollar general [02:56] heh [02:56] eviljames, I'm almost in your shoes. except, a little more modest -- I play the piano (I assume you play the electric?) frankly, if I could get a secure job as a pianist at a restaurant, I'd still do it.. but nope, it's not really a viable career, so here I am as an elec. eng. major [02:56] Cotowar: yep, there is that. [02:56] Cotowar: fortunately, education here costs a lot less too (and healthcare!). $3,500 was all I blew on my first year [02:57] Cotowar: but for me 35k is less of a worry that possible regret [02:57] Ficthe: pretty much bang-on. I play a few instruments, and would love to do it for a living, but it's not really realistic. [02:57] antler: i wasnt speaking hypothetically. that is my life. now i have 4 more years at least (5 in reality) at that price to get a degree, and when i get one finally, where will i work... [02:57] if it's pure 'education' that any of you are interested in (i.e., learning for the sake of learning), there's opencourseware and all of that fun stuff nowadays [02:58] eviljames: do you play jass flute? [02:58] jazz* [02:58] I saw that opencoursewear and almost dropped out a second time [02:58] Cotowar: neither was i, for i too am in debt [02:58] Cotowar: the Yazz flut [02:58] lol [02:58] eviljames, yep, best to subside it as a hobby. But here's the thing: to play the things I want to, I would HAVE to practice scales 3 hours a day.. so it's just a lose-lose in a lot of situations :( [02:58] Ficthe: because literally all I am doing it forr is education. No other point. [02:59] i want to start my own business, but with the new laws, thats never going to happen, at least in the US that is [02:59] what? [02:59] eviljames: wrong time for that eviljames . socrates is no longer at the marketplace; aristotle doesn't have that university down the hill any more. [02:59] grab (n=at@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left ##slackware. [02:59] msh07 (n=ldp@201.255.165.162) joined ##slackware. [02:59] sQuEE (n=narya@host57.190-30-4.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:59] antler: I refuse to believe that there's ever a wrong time for learning. [02:59] agreedo ^^ [03:00] antler: on an unrelated note, you don't happen to vote red do you? [03:00] eviljames: canada is not a society conducive to learning [03:00] msh07 (n=ldp@201.255.165.162) left irc: Client Quit [03:00] eviljames: hahah [03:00] Cotowar, not with that attitude. lots of businesses start up at the worst possible times [03:01] antler: Canada is, it's just Alberta that hates learned people it seems. [03:01] antler: I mean, we elected Klein. REPEATEDLY. [03:01] eviljames: do you see that about alberta as well? [03:01] thought it was just me [03:02] Ficthe, im afraid to do it and fail. not because of the failure itself, i could care less about that. its because im in debt more than my job will ever pay off, and im getting to the point of being kicked out of my house (age reasons, im 20, and my parents were out and married at 19). when i get out of college with a BS, im going to be in the hole over 100k, and by the time i save up enough to start a business, and make money with it, [03:02] ill be too old to enjoy it [03:03] antler: I lived the last 20 years in Alberta, it really is the last bastation of "America" in Canada.... [03:03] lol [03:03] antler: free market, no taxes and all that jazz [03:03] sQuEE (n=narya@host57.190-30-4.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [03:03] Cotowar: No, I mean it emulates the good things about America :D [03:03] you mean america is not perfect? WHAT?!?! lol [03:03] s/good/great/ [03:03] eviljames: that is truly discouraging. i have for the last little while thought about settling my family here. [03:04] Cotowar, i go to a pretty 'cheap' school in America, if you live on campus you're looking at about $80k in loans if you graduate in 4 years without summer classes [03:04] college is damn expensive [03:04] Cotowar, if you're gonna be getting done with a 100k debt, I hope to God you're not wasting your time. I hope you end up in a good standing as to be able to get a proper job to pay that debt off ;\ [03:05] and look into community colleges, you silly boys [03:05] Fenix-Dark, im going to go to NC State after I finish up at comm college. [03:05] I read these types of stories in the news and on social sites and such [03:05] Ficthe, I have a year of out of state tuition on me already. I went in with honors, and failed out in a year [03:05] community college = institution for people interested in getting a degree (without the booze and getting laid part) [03:05] but I can never really fathom it, having never experienced such an environment.... [03:05] $100g's for 4 years in uni? Really? I can't imagine more than 20. [03:05] plus, smaller class sizes, better teachers, etc. -- take basic courses there, and then transfer to a 4-year college [03:05] i started at my local community college which was a state of the art school. then i did business school and minored in information tech [03:06] That is, 20 = a world renowned instution of research like the University of Alberta (cured many a disease there...) [03:06] i suppose i've lucked out a good bit. i commute to school so its about $11000 a year, and my parents are willing to pay for it, for 4 years and if i take longer, i pay for it [03:06] yea im doing pre-engineering, then transferring to NC State for Mechatronics or Computer engineering [03:06] 10 = 4 years at a community college... 8.5 if you're cheap [03:07] Fenix-Dark: $11,000 is more than it should cost for all 4 years, imho. [03:07] yea, i pay 1k a semester for comm college [03:07] why would you spend 4 years at community college? all they offer is an associates degree which is a 2 year program [03:07] eviljames, i agree, but state funding has been decreasing with each year's budget [03:07] so tuition goes up [03:07] Fenix-Dark: The answer there is simple: vote for the people who aren't fighting for tax beraks for the wealthy. [03:07] Fenix-Dark, as has financial aid, unless you're a farmer [03:07] and books are fuckin expensive too, my calc book was $250 new from the school store, i got it from half.com for $130 [03:07] Fenix-Dark, learning-for-the-sake-of-learning! I take languages classes at community classes very often.. I'm always taking a class or two :) [03:08] Cotowar: then the education you have so far is useless, for you have not learned to transfer [03:08] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:08] Ficthe, that must be a very expensive hobby [03:08] eviljames: do you know what i get from those tax breaks? i get ALMOST enough to pay to stay in the dorms [03:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] antler: i know. my classes are a complete joke. but they transfer, and i know the material im opting out of anyways. [03:09] Fenix-Dark, nope. Often times, I just walk into teacher's office and make up some story: "So, yeah.. my French is kinda rusty, you mind if I unofficially sit in?" I've (unofficially) sat in for calc1,calc2, many engineering classes, many music classes, etc. etc... I've never received a "no" for an answer yet, btw [03:10] Ficthe, thats awesome [03:10] Ficthe: auditing classes ftw!! ++ ++ [03:10] yeah [03:10] honestly, i wish i had another shot at a D1 school. i have the maturity level to handle it now, but its gone [03:10] and when I was at the univ, I used to randomly just go to classes and attend the lecture.. (because in big lecture halls, you can't be identified) [03:10] Ficthe: I have often attended interesting classes and participated in discussion despite not being enrolled. [03:10] yea! [03:10] eviljames: lol [03:10] eviljames, that's what I was doing.. except I never paid! [03:10] as long as the class has the minimum number students needed to prevent cancellation and there are still free seats, most professors won't mind [03:11] Ficthe, i can understand that at universities, at my college classes have 35 students max [03:11] Ficthe: yeah, great minds think alike my friend :D [03:11] Ficthe: i did that a lot too, though it was mainly while drunk and i used to hit on the girls [03:11] Ficthe: I was on campus because I was going to other classes... I'd just sit in on ones that I thought were interesting :D [03:11] Fenix-Dark, what school are you at? my high school was bigger than that [03:11] Cotowar, Ramapo College of New Jersey [03:11] nice [03:11] my history class had 9 students [03:11] about 4 showed up to class [03:12] my VB programming class was me and one other kid [03:12] Fenix-Dark: that's a sign of a super-important class. [03:12] yes, i took VB, but its because i needed a nap [03:12] eviljames, lol [03:12] i've been in classes where it was just me an the professor and i've been in huge lecture halls full of people [03:12] eviljames, funny story.. I recall when I was a freshman, I was waiting outside for my chem class to start -- but where I was sitting outside, I kept hearing this really enthusiastic teacher giving a lecture on Einstein's theory of relativity.. I ditched my chem. class and attended that lecture (and I thoroughly enjoyed it too!) [03:12] and* [03:12] yea, my physics class was like 400 people [03:13] my friend is taking numerical analysis, the class has 3 students [03:13] most junior level classes are like that at medium-sized universities [03:13] Ficthe: haha, and so came an obsession with auditing cool lectures.. :D [03:13] my teacher had a microphone, and we all had RF remotes to bing in when there was a question so the teacher could find us [03:14] Cotowar, lol [03:14] nullboy, good for you -- smaller class size = direct interaction. The reciple for the best education (imo): a private instructor that gives immediate feedback [03:14] is it bad that my VB teacher has a masters in Com Sci and has never heard of Linux? [03:14] i find that bad [03:14] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [03:14] nah [03:14] Cotowar, i find that the compsci degree isnt fitting to what it actually is, programming [03:15] Cotowar: I work with a programmer who has a master's in comp.sci and never heard of linux. [03:15] computer science sounds more engineering oriented than programming [03:15] Cotowar: But, in his defense, he got his master's in '89, before Linux. He was very familiar with Solaris [03:15] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [03:15] in any case.., I've to wake up early to attend class tomorrow! (seriously). good night guys [03:15] Cotowar: guy's a bit of an insane genius. [03:15] good night [03:15] Ficthe: in theory, it's midnight and I have to go to work [03:15] that is [03:16] in the morning [03:16] Ficthe: so i get what you're sayin [03:16] Fenix-Dark: the com sci classes i took were all VERY programming oriented, and the engineering classes were very much NOT programming. And I remember having a Linux OS class on my projected schedule some time Junior year [03:16] heh, its 3:16 AM and i dont have class today(?) [03:16] ^^ i do [03:16] 9 am [03:16] Cotowar, yea, i'm doing a cmp sci minor, i know they're all programming, i just think the name doesnt fit the degree [03:17] agreed [03:17] I don't think comp.sci has much to do with programming per se [03:17] eviljames: thats where they put programming [03:17] It has to do with the theory of computation, efficiency, etc. How to design programs that always run O(1) and don't have buffer overflows. [03:17] its a part of computer science [03:18] eviljames, actual computer science seems rather vague and intuitively seems like it should be more related to computer components and mechanics and such [03:18] lol, i learned fortran in computer science [03:18] and java [03:18] :) [03:18] i'm taking Computer Science II, its c++ [03:18] thats right folks, i can program pre-C languages [03:18] Fenix-Dark: sort of like mechanics, but not. [03:19] like mechanics in the sense that each part depends on another part [03:19] eviljames, yea, thats what it should be [03:19] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:19] based on the name [03:19] and, for the record, it's not "computer" science. [03:19] It is computING science [03:19] The semantic differences between the words, I think, sort out some of the confusion about the program. [03:19] yes [03:20] Fenix-Dark: if you get C++, you should take a hard look at fortran. not many people can do it anymore, and its worth learning. lots of nice utilities are missing, so you have to learn things the hard way [03:20] thats a bit more suitable [03:20] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:20] eviljames: there are some BA degrees in computer science [03:20] Cotowar: I wouldn't pay for them, though. [03:20] lol [03:20] Cotowar: as a "scientist", that is [03:21] I thought for a while that I might get a BA Math in Logic [03:21] yea, all a computer science degree is is a cheap loop hole for a computer engineer [03:21] it would be the EASIEST possible math degree [03:21] no, get the BS [03:21] the S adds to a salary [03:21] Cotowar: I'm getting the BS, double major math/ computING science :D [03:21] but, I'm much more interested in the math [03:21] nice [03:21] the comp.sci part is for jobs. [03:22] eviljames, what classes are you taking now/will you take next semester [03:22] i want a BS in mechatronics with a minor in AI [03:22] Fenix-Dark: haven't even decided yet, but have been thinking about it. Definitely topology and algebra [03:23] Fenix-Dark: I'm probably going to keep on my option train and do a philosophy class and maybe algorithm design or something similar [03:23] eviljames: are you in to abstract math? [03:23] Fenix-Dark: and a logic class. [03:23] eviljames, linear algebra? abstract algebra? [03:24] i had a prof who was obsessed with matchings and all sorts of abstract math i dont even comprehend [03:24] Fenix-Dark: 3rd part of linear [03:24] Fenix-Dark: I did 1 & 2 2 years ago, and then took this year as mostly options and working :D [03:24] my school only has 1 linear algebra class, and its lacking severely [03:24] Really? [03:24] That kinda makes me sad [03:25] Fenix-Dark, you need to get to a bigger school [03:25] agreed, Cotowar [03:25] just so long as its not Duke or U of Iowa, im cool with wherever you go [03:25] My school has the biggest cyclotron in north america :D [03:25] yay! [03:25] yea, there is one guy who teachers it, who wrote the book... the book has typos which adds to confusion, and though you cant fault him for it, he has dyslexia, so he gets confused and really screws up some proofs [03:25] you pick either of those, we wont speak [03:26] and the class is only focusing on the theoretical vector space stuff, no real practical application is shown in class, and apparently linear algebra has lots of practical uses in physics and other stuff [03:26] eviljames: my last school had the C6 virtual reality simulator. its a simulator with all surfaces active, and it runs on a wicked cluster [03:26] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-86-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:26] and we had a tornado simulator [03:26] Fenix-Dark: There's lots of practical applications for vector space stuff. If you (for example) spread a data set over a picture of a face, manipulation of that data will age the face. [03:27] Though, due to not having looked at it in a couple of years, my verbiage could be off [03:27] yea [03:27] the class only focuses on theoretical and proving theorems [03:27] its not that useful [03:28] personally i want to get into AI, and motion control. the thing is, not many uni's offer those courses [03:28] That's really too bad. [03:28] Fenix-Dark: Do they get into various matrix operations? dot multiply vs. cross multiply and such? [03:28] I hope so... [03:29] yay dot product and cross product! [03:29] dot product comes up soon, dont know if cross product thoguh [03:29] though* [03:29] i learnt them thangs in high school [03:29] and yea, we do plenty of matrix stuff [03:29] That's a pretty good high school, imho. [03:29] yea [03:29] AP physics [03:29] My high school offered calc, but not much in algebra [03:29] my highschool's math department was lacking [03:29] college level class, and my teacher was a PhD in Physics [03:30] Fenix-Dark: sounds like your neighborhood's math skillz are lacking.. [03:30] someone from my highschool asked me what classes i'm taking now, i told him linear algebra, he said is that before or after algebra 2? [03:30] our math department was a joke. i slept through calc 1 and got a 5 on the AP test [03:30] haha [03:30] say before [03:30] you want the refresher [03:31] i didn't take calc in higschool [03:31] chose to take statistics instead [03:31] if it makes you feel better, i took the math placement at my comm college, it was mostly algebra 1 and some algebra 2 stuff. i got one wrong, a complex fraction simplification without paper... i tested into the highest math they had... "college algebra" [03:33] habtool_ (n=habtool@86-41-83-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [03:33] we all wrote down our last math class, and where we took it, and my answer was calc 2 at ISU. my teacher asked me why i was in her class, and my only answer was "Bad personal choices" [03:34] heh [03:35] like what am i supposed to say? "i was in girls more than class"? [03:35] my school separates calc into 4 classes, so its a bit more spread out and a bit more in depth [03:36] yea, thats nice. i wish i would have had that with calc 2 [03:36] i got it until we hit taylor series and shit like that [03:36] sequences and series are calc 3 for my school [03:36] then again, that was always the point i stopped going altogether, so that might have contributed [03:36] calc 2 is almost completely integration and techniques of integration [03:36] multi-derivative is calc 4 then? 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[03:37] gotta figure which approach to use and which formulas to use for each approach if needed [03:38] i liked physics [03:38] and i hated chemistry with every ounce of my being [03:38] i need to take physics 1 w/calc [03:38] physics is easy if you understand the math [03:39] its offered every semester so i'm putting it off for a while, so i can take the more important math classes that aren't offered as frequently [03:39] i did fine in highschool chem [03:39] my teacher was a genius [03:39] like the logic makes sense regardless, but if you cant derive or integrate, you are dead [03:39] yea, i did okay in chem, but i hated it [03:39] and my class was filled with idiots [03:39] so after the curve i ended up with a 118 on the final [03:39] the only thing i had going for me was my lab partner was sexy, and a whore [03:40] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-86-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:40] joseph_ (n=joseph@c-24-61-23-210.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-86-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [03:40] i never took the standard math/science classes. i did AP. i was with the same like 20 kids all through HS [03:40] i didnt do AP classes in highschool [03:41] they had too much work and i was lazy [03:41] and now it wouldn't have helped much at all anyway [03:41] here was me in HS. i had the choice between 2 people for chem lab. one was super smart and would do it all himself, and the other was f-ing dumb and would make my year miserable, but she was hot [03:41] i picked the hottie [03:41] the only significant benefit is if i had taken 4 ap classes and got 4+'s on all of them, then i could have skipped a semester of college [03:42] yea, thats what i did [03:42] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:42] history, chem, physics, and calc [03:42] got a 4 in chem, 5 calc, didnt take the physics test, and a 3 or 4 in american history [03:43] and none of my credits applied...because again...im an idiot [03:43] i had 2 study halls senior year, so i got to go to class at 9:00 and leave at 2:15 (if i went to all of my classes) [03:43] we got our schedule cut freshman year after a 3 week teacher strike [03:43] so my day started at 9, and ended at 3 [03:43] did the school year get extended? [03:44] study hall was removed [03:44] for some of us [03:44] thats horrible [03:44] seniors didnt, but the rest of us did [03:44] they made the day so short you cant graduate in 4 years unless you do summer classes [03:45] because illinois is retarded and made P.E. mandatory to "fix the obesity problem" [03:45] i went to summer school, it was fun lol [03:45] P.E. consisted of talking to friends [03:45] it was 8:00 - 10:00 and i would have woken up after 10:00 so there was no loss [03:45] Nick change: Mess[i]ah -> Emess [03:46] i did football training all summer [03:46] 5 -7 am every day [03:46] for 'physical science' i was sick and missed a lot of class, my teacher didnt let me make up the labs so i got an incomplete and had to take it in summer school [03:46] that was stupid as hell [03:46] sounds stupid [03:46] we watched movies and read the news paper in summer school [03:46] the whole education system is screwed up in this country [03:46] absolutely [03:46] and yea, that was me as a senior. i did nothing in class [03:47] well, i programmed reversi in visual basic [03:47] i just made sugar cookies [03:47] and i attempted a complete calculator through integrals but didnt finish [03:49] yea, lots of nested 'if' statements for calculating integrals [03:50] yea. my biggest problem was making the GUI part [03:50] like, i could do a + b = [03:50] but how do you keep a running total [03:51] i figured it out since then, but at the time, it was hard for me [03:51] and integrals weren't as bad as i thought. [03:51] joseph_ (n=joseph@c-24-61-23-210.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:51] another hard one was surface area of hollow shapes [03:52] like a pipe, counting wall thickness and inner surface [03:52] thats all well and good, but what about a pipe with caps? the inside is still hollow [03:52] did you throw in formulas to do future value/present value/etc [03:53] the formula for an integral is really easy [03:53] oh? [03:53] ax ^ n+1 / n+1 [03:53] done [03:53] what about ones where that wont work [03:53] oh, you mean like recursives? [03:53] int: 1/x [03:54] its ln(x) [03:54] right, VB has special keywords for that, and then you do string analysis [03:54] or int: ln(x). its x(ln(x)) - x [03:54] yea, i didnt know that much at the time though [03:54] ok [03:54] so you covered very basic integration [03:55] like sinx, we didnt get that far in calc 1 [03:55] calc2 is basically just integration :| [03:55] yea, i thought it was fun [03:55] yea thats what it was for me [03:55] math became un-fun for me when we hit power series and taylor series [03:56] like i get what a power series is, but what the hell [03:56] taylor /maclaurin series made math more interesting for me [03:56] or calc at least [03:56] thats how calculators work [03:56] where is the practical application of adding to infinity [03:56] x^n is a power series right?? [03:56] yes [03:57] at the end of calc1, you should be able to differentiate pretty much everything -- calc2 elaborates on integrations (and 'calc1' might differ across different schools - I mean, in terms of how far they go). anyway, somewhere in calc 2, you'll find out that you can't do it all yourself -- you HAVE to refer to large formula sheets, or algebraic systems (mathematica, sage, matlab, whatever) [03:57] ...... [03:57] the practical application is that you can approximate those values to a specified level of accuracy (or error) [03:57] we never had sheets.... [03:58] you will in calc2 [03:58] i took calc 2...twice in fact. [03:58] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:58] Ficthe, i had a small formula sheet in calc 2 ;) [03:58] power series : les séries entières \o/ [03:58] made it all the way through series and sequences and shit like that with no sheets [03:58] im upset now [03:58] i want a god damn sheet! [03:58] had double angle/half angle identities, inverse function derivatives, and thats abou tit [03:59] oh and hyperbolic trig function derivatives [03:59] s/sheet/10-page long appendix/ [03:59] yea, we never had that. we just had to commit to memory [03:59] mine was 1/3 of an A4 paper [03:59] man, now im pissed [04:00] do you have any idea how long i had to sit and study those fuckers to get them all straight?! [04:00] heh [04:00] that shit pissed me off too/. [04:00] like for real, is your boss ever going to be like "okay, solve this math problem, but no calculators!!!" [04:00] no. [04:00] my prof was good about that, he said he doesnt want the class to be about memorization, and any time you had to apply these techniques of integration you could easily find the formulas so there's no point in doing that [04:01] exactly [04:01] i see the no calculator bit more than the no formulas [04:01] the no calculator makes you know how to do the stuff [04:01] so does showing work [04:01] it also shows you know proper algebra [04:01] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [04:01] both are stupid [04:02] agreed, but thats kind of a given at that level [04:02] my highschool let us use calculators, i was mediocre with algebra, i got a lot better fast in college, with few exceptions, its strictly no calculator [04:02] like ananke said "A+ on a server admin resume is like saying 'i can spell' on a college app" [04:02] theres a point at which the skills should be there [04:03] i think integral calculus is a good point to have the algebra down [04:03] and i used to write programs for my TI 84 and sell them at school [04:03] heh [04:03] made some pretty good money doing that [04:04] got one date, and a few "nice" DVDs from some pirates i know [04:04] i wasn't that cool, only had a ti 83+ [04:04] lol [04:04] i had one of those too, then it got stolen [04:04] along with my $100 fossil watch [04:05] hey man, i gotta go. i have class in 5 hours, and there is this super fine girl im aiming at. i need sleep to be on my A game. [04:05] heh [04:05] good night and good luck [04:05] thanks, and thanks. shes 21, im not, so its tough. i will report the results [04:06] and good night man [04:06] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-86.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [04:07] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:08] dngr (n=dngr@112.118.130.203) joined ##slackware. [04:08] klodovik (n=klodovik@unaffiliated/klodovik) left irc: [04:09] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good night"). [04:12] Dr_future (n=Dr_futur@unaffiliated/drfuture/x-982734) joined ##slackware. [04:13] Dr_future (n=Dr_futur@unaffiliated/drfuture/x-982734) left ##slackware. [04:13] meatron (n=opera@a40-prg1-2-177.static.adsl.vol.cz) left ##slackware. [04:16] klodovik (n=klodovik@unaffiliated/klodovik) joined ##slackware. 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[05:02] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [05:05] Nick change: ROKO__ -> ROKO__-[afk] [05:05] evenin' [05:08] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-86-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:09] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-86-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:16] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.21) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [05:20] vatgas (n=val@123.145.48.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:21] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:21] testalu (n=iagselen@transi11.iag.uni-stuttgart.de) left ##slackware. [05:27] vdvluc (n=chatzill@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:28] tiny, maybe the system got fscked :) you can force the check by creating /etc/forcefsck (or /forcefsck, depends on the system). `touch /etc/forcefsck` [05:33] deadowl (n=deadowl@132.198.13.188) joined ##slackware. [05:37] I've got this weird problem. I'm trying to get a slackware box to authenticate against an ldap server, and it will allow passwords for uids from the ldap server, but not uids. [05:37] so login: ldap-only account will fail [05:37] and login: localAndLdapName password: LdapOnlyPassword will succeed [05:38] anyone? [05:40] How are you trying to do the auth? nss_ldap{ [05:40] ? [05:41] yea [05:42] i've read that installing pam is a pain because you have to recompile everything, and that you can do it with just nss_ldap. [05:42] indeed [05:42] pam evil [05:43] vatgas (n=val@123.145.43.198) joined ##slackware. [05:44] deadowl: where are you specifying these parameters? [05:44] /etc/ldap.conf, /etc/openldap/ldap.conf, /etc/nsswitch.conf [05:44] kk [05:44] 1 sec [05:44] jonsmith1982_ (n=chatzill@88-97-28-182.dsl.zen.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:45] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.165.133) left irc: "A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows :-)" [05:46] whats the best way to move the data from one mysql server to another? is it posible to do it without exporting/importing each database? [05:46] create a data dump! [05:47] deadowl: I dont see any params about "login:" or ldap-only or anything like it in my confs (which work) [05:47] then use the SQL from the data dump [05:47] jonsmith1982_: mysqldump -h fromhost -uroot -prootpass --extra-params-as-reqd | mysql -h newhost [05:47] zordrak, it's when you enter your uid [05:48] Nikkii_ (i=DeathRaz@41.236.14.81) joined ##slackware. [05:48] are we talking about a specific parameter in /etc/ldap.conf? [05:48] no [05:48] the first thing you enter when you login that isn't your password is your uid [05:49] and the slackware box isn't accepting uids that are on the ldap server, but if you enter a uid that is on the local machine AND the ldap server, then it will allow you to use the uid from the ldap server. [05:51] the only thing that really gets me is that there wasn't a shadow entry in nsswitch.conf beforehand, so it might be for that reason. [05:52] OIC [05:52] whats the order for passwd in nsswitch? [05:52] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [05:52] files ldap? [05:53] ldap files [05:53] hmm [05:53] bad idea [05:53] why bad idea? [05:53] you always want local accounts to take precedence over remote ones [05:54] v4nelle (n=van@adsl96-127.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:54] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-104-178.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [05:54] yeah.. it should be files ldap [05:54] Salve a tutti [05:54] well, there's only about 12 users or so, and trying ldap files for testing [05:54] but yea, i'll try that then [05:54] one thing to look out for [05:55] I found that using nss_ldap, even if you have the order as files ldap in nsswitch, if the ldap server becomes unavailable pretty much all processes on the box will start to hang as each does a user check [05:55] it all just times out rather than falling out [05:55] which is partially why I stopped the experiment [05:55] but yea, so, vice versa didn't change anything and I didn't expect it to [05:56] then it would suggest something else is wrong elsewhere [05:57] certainly in my nsswitch.conf.. when set to ldap I have passwd, shadow and group all set to files ldap and it works well.. [05:57] How do I stop one program from holding the soundcard captive? [05:57] hmm [05:57] it's tricky... but then you know that :) [05:57] have /etc/ldap.secret too, forgot to mention that. [05:58] and I know that getting onto the server works [05:58] or else getent would say otherwise [05:58] so maybe one of the ldap.conf files [05:58] perhaps [05:59] worth double checking that if you paste all the connection-related stuff from ldap.conf into a single ldapsearch it works [05:59] vdvluc (n=chatzill@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.15/2009032323]" [05:59] just seems bizarre that it would only check the ldap server if the uid is in files [06:03] do you have pam_auth in your /etc/ldap.conf? [06:04] Shasie (n=mirggi@202.59.174.193) joined ##slackware. [06:04] pam_auth=(...) [06:04] i wouldn't think so, but that's the only difference between the ldap clients that work. [06:06] Nick change: Yudha_HT -> yht|off [06:09] zordrak, the local uid with the ldap password only works if ldap is first in the list [06:11] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE5E5D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:11] klodovik (n=klodovik@unaffiliated/klodovik) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:14] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [06:19] one thing I don't get, why does this computer have bind installed? [06:26] deadowl: did you not install the machine yourself>? [06:26] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [06:27] 11:09:21 < deadowl> zordrak, the local uid with the ldap password only works if ldap is first in the list << expected behaviour for local accounts, and how it should be done so that each machine can have local system accounts that aren't overridden byu ldap [06:27] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.169) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:27] deadowl: no i have no pam config lines [06:28] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.228) joined ##slackware. [06:28] suvir (n=suvir@ppp-124-120-242-6.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [06:29] http://frullet.wordpress.com/ Yarrr! [06:31] jnz_ (n=jnz_@87.13.134.33) joined ##slackware. [06:31] slackytude (i=8d640adc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ffe7e28e614cbf92) joined ##slackware. [06:32] greetings [06:32] my uni blocks 6667 :( [06:33] go mibbit! [06:33] Zordrak: No, I did not install this system. 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[06:48] lol : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xorg_75_please&num=1 ;p [06:49] slackytude, you're using mibbit ? bad ! :p [06:49] rworkman, i tried your xfce 4.6.0 pack and i had major issues, such as the themes breaking [06:49] Camarade_Tux: uni blocks 6667 [06:49] vatgas (n=val@123.145.43.198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:50] ssh, or maybe httptunnel ;p [06:50] Camarade_Tux: yeah, Im gonna do that [06:50] Camarade_Tux: mibbit for now [06:51] I'm just teasing you, I've done the same ;) [06:53] Zordrak: it's because the passwords on accounts I haven't used were using MD5 instead of CRYPT [06:54] life is harsh : I'm force to eat pancakes >< [06:55] Camarade_Tux: I deserve all the teasing [06:55] a slacker worth his salt should be able to get a puny uni firewall [06:56] get around even [06:56] Nick change: Guest61739 -> sidmario [06:57] oh, i hate it when April's Fools Day falls on April 1st [06:57] :) [06:57] is anybody here good at writing sed or awk ? [06:58] a little [06:59] MoZes: I can do some awk [06:59] DEVLIST=${1-$( sed -e "s/^ *//" /etc/fstab | grep "^\/dev" | grep -v "^#" | awk '{print $1}' )} [06:59] for woDEVA in $DEVLIST; do [06:59] # in-place edit fsck field (6th) to 0 for this device [06:59] Channel flood from MoZes -- kicking [06:59] done [06:59] MoZes kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [06:59] MoZes (n=mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:59] booteco (n=booteco@201.47.17.212.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:59] all I need to do is set the 6th field to a 0 for the device name contained in $woDEVA [06:59] now anyway to get slackware to generate home dirs on a local machine? [07:00] deadowl: generate them? [07:00] MoZes, oh shit, gtg [07:00] sry [07:04] what program do you use to get a video stream from your webcam? and possibly, record it? [07:04] slava_dp, mplayer [07:04] uh [07:04] and if you just want to record it, cat ;p ( cat /dev/video) [07:05] slava_dp, http://www.exploits.org/v4l [07:05] Action: slackytude smokes [07:05] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-299e1297cb80e9e4) joined ##slackware. [07:05] vatgas (n=val@123.145.78.219) joined ##slackware. [07:05] Action: Camarade_Tux gets ready for his train back to Paris \o/ [07:06] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:07] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "spleepin" [07:08] Shasie (n=mirggi@202.59.174.193) got netsplit. [07:08] ROKO__-[afk] (n=RoKo__@85.217.253.176) got netsplit. [07:08] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) got netsplit. [07:08] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) got netsplit. [07:08] lownoize_ (n=lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de) got netsplit. [07:08] natural_mind (n=vbatts@rrcs-67-78-226-122.se.biz.rr.com) got netsplit. 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[07:32] deadowl: that would do it :) [07:32] vlc plays v4l too. it's much better than mplayer imo [07:32] man helping people who are computer illiterate is like herding sheep sometimes [07:32] er more like herding cats [07:35] duryo (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-72049213787d995b) joined ##slackware. [07:35] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.231.69.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: "I'm Gone" [07:39] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [07:39] kama (n=kama@host28-93-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:41] kama (n=kama@host28-93-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:42] Nick change: duryo -> duryodhan [07:44] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:46] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [07:47] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:49] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. 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[08:11] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [08:11] slackytude (i=8d640adc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ffe7e28e614cbf92) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [08:12] tntslack, have you had any problems with the graphical system in general? [08:12] no [08:13] only if this is a problem, some times when i press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is freezing [08:13] "freezing" i can startx blinding [08:14] control+alt+backspace is the key code to kill the graphical system [08:14] or when i trying to switch user by Ctrl+Alt+F1 or F2 [08:14] yes i know [08:14] well there some time is freezing [08:14] are you booting to init mode 4? if you've never edited /etc/inittab then the answer is "no" [08:14] no [08:15] what graphics card? [08:15] ati xpress 1100 [08:15] shear memory [08:15] did you configure the graphical system yet? (xorgconfig, xorgsetup, etc) [08:15] btw i had edit my inittab [08:15] to lvl 4 [08:16] and cause of this problem i put back to lvl 3 [08:16] no i didn't [08:16] i suppose don't need to do that [08:16] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-76-242.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:17] well the default /etc/X11/xorg.conf is set up to use vesa graphics (iirc). probably works on all machines, but you can do a bit better by being more specific [08:17] i install my drivers from ati.com [08:17] log out, log in as root, "xorgsetup" and answer the questions, etc [08:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-165.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:17] i change it by aticonfig --initial -f [08:17] ah [08:17] well i have no clue about ATI so nevermind [08:18] will look google, thanks btw [08:20] no problem, i love being a help, or at least trying to be lol :S [08:21] btw i have problem with fgl_glxgears [08:21] i can't run it [08:21] X Error of failed request: GLXBadDrawable [08:22] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-104-178.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [08:23] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Client Quit [08:23] sounds like it can't use the mesa libs or that there might be a disagreement between ati and slackware's version of mesa [08:24] this is why i've never used ATI and never purchased one of their cards since i started using Linux: problems like this [08:24] they really don't give a @#$ about Linux and probably never will because they have no incentive to [08:24] they make good cards but i don't appreciate their lack of concern for Linux-land [08:25] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-299e1297cb80e9e4) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:25] how i can remember, in the past with some old drivers was working fine... [08:25] they made all of their technical specs available to xorg :( [08:25] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196406.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:25] well then i guess i'm wrong [08:25] nvision (n=nvision@92.229.168.248) joined ##slackware. [08:25] no you not.. :) [08:26] but right now the experience of intel onboard graphics (for a non-gamer) in Linux is far better for me, so i stick with Intel. i've used nvidia before also, much nicer, very fast, but i'm not digging having to compile extra stuff (that's just me) [08:26] oh well, everyone has their preference [08:26] crzspaik (n=mrc@adsl-ull-19-182.50-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [08:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [08:27] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:30] crzspaik (n=mrc@adsl-ull-19-182.50-151.net24.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:30] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-3aaf4ccd62007e4e) joined ##slackware. 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[08:44] tntslack: ati and fglrx drivers a straight up pain in the ass, there is no satisfaction in spending days on end trying to get them working your best bet would be to just purchase an nvidia card [08:46] frullet well i am on laptop and can't purchase a nvidia :) [08:46] btw i can't install kernel modules for fglx [08:46] vatgas (n=val@123.145.64.232) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:46] tntslack: whats the reason for you wanting to use fglrx? [08:47] i want it just make to work... why should't work ? [08:48] brb [08:48] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:49] booteco (n=booteco@201.47.17.212.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:49] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:49] frullet well with drivers 8.12 is working :) [08:50] i just made install an old one [08:50] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@201.47.149.252) left irc: "Leaving" [08:53] jnz_ (n=jnz_@87.13.134.33) joined ##slackware. [08:57] Nick change: ROKO__-[afk] -> ROKO__ [08:58] oobe (n=oobe@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [08:58] is anyone here good with cups [08:59] i have 2 questions and from what i remember people here are good with cups [08:59] define good [08:59] shoot your questions [08:59] how do i configure cups to print in reverse order like if i print a 50 page document it comes out in reverse also is there a way to make "PreserveJobFiles Yes" limit the number of jobs it keeps to say 2 at the same time having "MaxJobs 500" [08:59] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.42) left irc: [09:00] i should of put that in 2 lines sorry [09:00] well, both are over my head, sorry :-( [09:10] -o outputorder=reverse [09:12] kama_ (n=kama@host28-93-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:12] and for the second one, reading cupsd.conf docs it says that maxjobs will reject jobs when reaching the limit [09:13] and preserve will keep jobs that are completed, canceled or aborted, so, it won't keep it since it never got it in the first place [09:16] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.165.72) joined ##slackware. [09:16] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:18] kama_ (n=kama@host28-93-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:21] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) left irc: "Saliendo" [09:22] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:22] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:27] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-199437.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Nick change: ROKO__ -> ROKO__-[afk] [09:30] aperture1ever` (n=abell@athedsl-199652.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[10:02] oobe (n=oobe@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:02] there's a small reservoir that we can keep filling so it looks like it's coming from the bottle. [10:02] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:02] Never thought of that. :P [10:03] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] Nick change: ROKO__-[afk] -> ROKO__ [10:04] agentc0re: Just hand in your notice at 9am, go bowling, then come back at 11:59 and shout "April Fools" [10:04] cmair (n=cmair@dns.sad.it) joined ##slackware. [10:06] SM177Y: are you there? something strange happened yesterday, my box got really really slow and then the screen went black and back without desktop effects (kde4), nothing in the logs, not sure if it's a kde4/kwin or catalyst driver problem :p [10:07] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:08] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) joined ##slackware. [10:08] LAHCYM (n=LAHCYM@adsl-21-159-148.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] anyone got a slackbuild for iasl? [10:09] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [10:09] LAHCYM (n=LAHCYM@adsl-21-159-148.clt.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [10:09] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-199838.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:09] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [10:09] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [10:09] ahh acpica [10:10] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [10:11] Zordrak: Hey, i did a SB of Bacula last night. Finally. [10:11] woo! lol [10:12] think i still have my slackbuilds.. but it was too piecemeal to submit [10:13] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:14] Zordrak: What version of bacula do you have? [10:14] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.18) left irc: "Leaving" [10:15] vatgas1 (n=val@123.145.41.175) joined ##slackware. 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[10:32] nachox: besides removing the rss bookmark you mean? [10:32] yes [10:35] don't think you really can [10:35] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [10:35] you can try the about:config options though but from what i know they do not work either [10:36] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:38] Lectus (n=chatzill@20150049054.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:38] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE5803.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] andreas--, aperturefever ti ginete alania? :p [10:41] kai tntslack ennoeite [10:43] ah o tntslack einai o gnwstos kafros?:p kala re:) [10:43] ?! [10:43] ti lete to name moure? :D [10:44] lol [10:44] xaxa [10:44] i say to make a greek slackware channel on freenode [10:44] yo [10:44] you have to create a greek slack community here [10:44] lol v4nelle [10:44] gamw ta english mou mesa [10:44] v4nelle: go ahead make one since this is not an offical channel for slackware anyways [10:46] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [10:46] There is a #slackware-br - why noty create #slackware-gr as well... [10:46] and there's also a #slackware-es [10:47] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [10:48] Is there a single tarball that contains all of the requisite KDE 4.2.1 files? [10:48] Pa^2: no. [10:48] Nick change: andreas-- -> V_tec [10:48] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.25) left irc: "Leaving." [10:48] Short answers are the best. Thanks [10:48] someone should poke the #slackware.de and ##id-slackware to change their channel name ;) [10:49] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:49] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:51] BP{k}: Sounds like you volunteered :P [10:52] agentc0re: negative, I have done my part. But obviously by being outspoken about this, you just got the job. Congratulations. ;-) [10:53] Crap. Looks like i'll need to babelfish a translation of, "Conform you screwballs and change your channel name to slackware-XX" [10:54] I'm sure they wont hesitate to do it after that. 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[11:22] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:22] john_dee: read http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/beautiful-fonts-in-12.1-640468/ [11:23] Alan_Hicks: ping [11:23] SM177Y (i=1000@204.38.194.193) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:24] SM177Y (i=1000@204.38.194.193) joined ##slackware. [11:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:28] alienBOB, thanks. that's definitely worth it. i can't look at current slack fonts after booting from windowze [11:29] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:30] nvision (n=nvision@92.229.168.248) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:30] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [11:31] deadowl_ (n=deadowl@132.198.13.190) joined ##slackware. [11:32] Is there any way to spawn a home directory on login if it doesn't exist? [11:32] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:32] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:33] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [11:33] sorry if repeat: Is there any way to spawn a home directory on login if it doesn't exist? [11:33] deadowl, sure! mkdir /home/username [11:33] deadowl, nope. not in slackware at least [11:34] hmm [11:34] in a pamified distro you'd be able to do it [11:34] Oooh, ananke [11:34] You wouldn't happen to run snort, would you? [11:35] yea, there's talk of installing anything other than slackware because of the lacking pamification. [11:35] straterra : nope [11:35] Damn [11:36] yea, i know, but it sucks not to be able to spawn home dirs when you don't have an nfs server running. [11:36] or sshfs or samba or whatever you want to use. [11:37] deadowl, well, try another distro. pam_mkhomedir.so is the module used for it [11:37] yea, I use it on two other boxes. [11:38] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:38] some will be upset, some will say it's necessary -_- [11:39] i don't see a reason for being upset [11:39] v4nelle: i need some of what you smoke dude [11:39] :D [11:40] van nelle power :) [11:42] jnz_ (n=jnz_@87.13.134.33) left irc: "brb" [11:43] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:45] echel0n (n=ch0wn@189.32.218.214) joined ##slackware. [11:45] j14159 (n=jeremy@154.5.76.16) joined ##slackware. [11:45] echel0n (n=ch0wn@189.32.218.214) left ##slackware. [11:46] CyB3R_n37 (n=ch0wn@189.32.218.214) joined ##slackware. [11:46] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-237-227-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] mmongecr (n=marvin@201.204.43.134) joined ##slackware. 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[11:51] Nick change: sidmario_ -> sidmario [11:51] i,ve added user to a group... but doesnt look like it will take effect until an X restart [11:51] bash = no joy [11:51] bash -l = no joy [11:51] su - user = joy [11:52] guess it must be a parent process thing [11:52] Zordrak: you need to relogin for the changes to take effect, afaik [11:55] deadowl_ (n=deadowl@132.198.13.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:57] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.5) joined ##slackware. [11:57] deadowl_ (n=deadowl@132.198.13.184) joined ##slackware. [11:59] W [11:59] T [11:59] F [11:59] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.136.14) joined ##slackware. [12:00] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] deadowl_ (n=deadowl@132.198.13.184) left irc: Client Quit [12:03] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.32) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Stutteri1gmatt (n=mathias@h115n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [12:04] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h119n1c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:04] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [12:04] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-201630.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:04] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [12:05] Zordrak: that's how unix works. [12:05] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:05] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [12:06] Zordrak, sg will log you into the group without requiring a login [12:06] sg? [12:07] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:07] yup..read the man page ;) [12:07] err, well newgrp logs you in [12:07] sg runs commands as other groups [12:07] oh, it's su for groups [12:08] yea [12:08] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-beaddc8bd2bfcc21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:08] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [12:08] and newgrp just logs you into a group [12:09] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [12:09] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:09] i simply mean that.. inside KDE4, all the konsole (bash) processes are started with the same mebership as the initiating KDE rather than determining the grloup memberships fresh [12:10] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [12:10] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host97-138-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:10] which means that if i want bash in konsole in kde to be take note of a change in group membership i have to su -, or restart X [12:11] it takes it from its parent... [12:11] should work if you do `newgrp somegroup; konsole` [12:12] i had simply assumed that `bash -l` should ignore the parent and load the environment fresh [12:13] does conflicker cause a bsod? [12:14] No [12:14] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:15] jonsmith1982_ (n=chatzill@88-97-28-182.dsl.zen.co.uk) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [12:18] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-3aaf4ccd62007e4e) left irc: [12:21] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [12:23] nooper, http://www.webstandards.org/2009/04/01/purpose-of-conficker-worm-uncovered/ [12:24] SM177Y (i=1000@204.38.194.193) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:25] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.204.112) joined ##slackware. [12:25] astbot (n=astbot@unaffiliated/dagmoller/bot/astbot) joined ##slackware. [12:26] astbot (n=astbot@unaffiliated/dagmoller/bot/astbot) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] Zygocactus (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) joined ##slackware. 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[12:57] strankan_ (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Client Quit [12:59] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware. [12:59] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.32) left irc: "Leaving" [13:01] Stx_ (n=d9ae413d@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [13:02] oobe (n=oobe@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-69-236-84-41.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] This is an April Fools' joke, right? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/dance/index.xml [13:11] hahaha [13:12] sclebo05 (n=sclebo05@corp.paonline.com) left irc: "Leaving." [13:14] afo_SoaD (n=afo_SoaD@rue92-6-82-237-182-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:15] haha [13:15] lovely joke. [13:15] zybr0n1 (n=Lisius@c-76-116-27-122.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [13:20] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) joined ##slackware. [13:20] mogglepar (i=1000@umass-945-254.wireless.umass.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:20] chance22, lol [13:20] Stutteri1gmatt (n=mathias@h115n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:20] anyways VLC changed their logo today, lol [13:20] Nick change: mogglepar -> mogunus [13:20] wish they would do it for real [13:20] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) left irc: "Saindo" [13:21] "we are dropping the passive cone and upgrading to some heavy machinery. " :) [13:21] I upgraded my laptop to slack 12.2 and now it won't suspend to disk. Suspend to ram works fine, but echo -n disk > /sys/power/state just turns it off. [13:22] I have a big enough swap partition (twice the size of my RAM) [13:22] mogunus: did you give the swap as where to recover from? [13:22] lowkyalur: no. I have to do something involving LILO, don't I? 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[13:26] mogunus: that's from .config for building the kernel, in my case sda2 is the tmp [13:26] i've got the root part set to active. I've got my swap up. [13:27] mogunus: arg. "tmp" i mean swap [13:27] zybr0n1, if your getting segfaults from the installer my first guess is bad ram... [13:27] hrmm [13:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:27] did you let it install LILO to the MBR? [13:27] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [13:27] no [13:27] lowkyalur: hmmm. suspend to disk worked in 12. without a kernel recompile [13:27] edman007: i did no such thing. [13:27] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [13:27] hi all [13:27] zybr0n1, well that would explain the non-booting part of your problem [13:28] ok [13:28] Action: edman007 collides into gar0t0 [13:28] mogunus: this is just how -i- got it to work...however my system is more like the 'burning ruins that work somehow' style:) [13:28] mogunus: you need to have a special partition for that or something?? for me it never works... not even suspend to ram (never wakes up) [13:28] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-86.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] edman007: here i thought i only really needed lilo for a multiboot system [13:28] P4C0: usually it's using the swap [13:29] P4C0: no idea what happens if you dont have one [13:29] lowkyalur: oh, I'll test that tonight ;) [13:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.169.251) left irc: "leaving" [13:30] zybr0n1, nope..you need it if you want to boot (unless you have it already installed and configured on the system and don't want to overwrite that) [13:30] nebody else has some wise words about suspend to disk? [13:30] however my swap is only 256mb :p hehe [13:30] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.93.236.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] P4C0: should be size of your ram minimum i guess for suspend to disk [13:31] lowkyalur: actually the first thing im always doing is patching the kernel with tuxonice so i never had any isses with standby/hibernate etc [13:31] lowkyalur: the kernel option part is correct [13:31] Aha. I need to pass resume=/dev/resume_partition to kernel on startup... [13:32] (for swsusp, not tuxonice or suspend2) [13:32] for any suspend method, really [13:33] suspend to ram works without that. oddly enough. [13:33] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:34] no. because it's not writing anything to the disk or reading it. it just powers down everything but the ram [13:34] technically suspend to ram is not rebooting the machine at all [13:35] thats why its called "suspend" as opposed to "hibernate"... [13:35] "no." > not oddly:) [13:35] suspend to disk/ram is awesome, this is the year of linux on the desktop!! [13:36] and now it works fine. fantastic. [13:36] (just tried suspend to disk) [13:36] V_tec (n=andy@ppp079166007184.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:36] my wireless came back fine too. [13:37] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [13:38] mogunus (i=1000@umass-945-254.wireless.umass.edu) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.13/2008111319]" [13:39] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [13:41] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:41] mogunus (i=1000@umass-945-254.wireless.umass.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:41] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-86.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [13:41] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:42] That worked well. Suspend to disk is now happy. Thanks ##slackware. [13:43] cmair (n=cmair@dns.sad.it) left irc: "leaving" [13:44] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:47] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:50] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@201.47.149.252.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:50] http://imagebin.ca/view/1epZIwd7.html [13:50] http://imgur.com/CX3YO.png [13:51] http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/revolting_door.gif [13:52] k, last bunch of image spam from md [13:52] Stx_ (n=d9ae413d@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: "brb" [13:52] die already [13:52] eviljames, i already saw those [13:52] bob_slacker, is this a history lesson? [13:53] edman007, just if u want! [13:53] eviljames, though i still can't figure out how the revolving door did that... [13:53] bob_slacker, i don't [13:53] edman007: Probably the fire alarm or similar went off. [13:53] They have a failsafe where the X becomes a | and people can walk past freely if power dies. [13:54] That is, the doors themselves look like an X or a | from above. [13:54] ohh..i never heard of them doing that [13:54] i thought those things are welded into a cross... [13:54] That way if power died, so would everyone inside the building. [13:54] interesting... [13:58] mmongecr (n=marvin@201.204.43.134) left ##slackware. 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[14:04] agentc0re|work: i'd try to contain it's edits to a separate rc.prgnam and then make a note in the README that rc.local will need to source it [14:04] why be in rc.local and not a separate rc. ? [14:04] that's the way i've seen it done, see the virtualbox sbo [14:05] Okay, let it be said let it be done! [14:06] Stutteringmatt: yo [14:06] eviljames my laptop KDE4 broke :) that backtrace error again, just thought i'd let you know :( [14:06] Also, this is my first SBo with a doinst.sh. I just wanna make sure that this, http://pastebin.learnix.net/41 is what's used entirely for looking for the current .conf files, and renaming them to .new leaving the originals intact. [14:07] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.221.230) joined ##slackware. [14:07] nvision (n=nvision@g229168248.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Titen2000 (n=Titen@cpe-71-64-113-25.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:15] i recommend following Pat's lead using for example the doinst for bind [14:16] eviljames: your running slamd64 right? [14:16] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Stutteringmatt: yup [14:17] i know there's been some issues with 64bit flash on linux, did you have any problems? [14:17] Nope. [14:17] Flash 10 is native 64 bit, downloadable from Adobe [14:17] and nvidia 64bit drivers? [14:18] I use Intel. [14:19] Stutteringmatt: yep, definitely [14:19] thrice`: you know what the latest x64 driver is for nvidia(linux= [14:20] no, but I will pull up firefox, go to google, type in nvidia, and search if you are unable :) [14:20] i have done that [14:20] I am fairly certain their 32 and 64-bit drivers are the same [14:20] seems like 180.44 is the latest x64 one [14:20] I think they are different downloads [14:20] but same versions [14:23] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. 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[15:15] nullboy: acidchild was able to recover the data [15:15] Dominian: nice [15:16] anyone have issues with conflicker yet? [15:16] i think it was a hoax..pussies [15:16] Its not a hoax heh [15:16] one of the it people here got it [15:16] http://www.joestewart.org/cfeyechart.html [15:16] on her laptop...that she never updates [15:16] straterra: hah [15:16] I've not heard anything about it [15:17] no with conflicker, but the cornflakes didn't make me any good today [15:18] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Client Quit [15:19] nullboy, http://www.webstandards.org/2009/04/01/purpose-of-conficker-worm-uncovered/ [15:19] edman007: well damn, that's actually a great idea! [15:19] lol [15:22] nullboy, yea...but i don't think any botnet could get enough power to pull it off :( [15:22] Action: edman007 goes back to writing essays :( [15:23] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.181.28.4) joined ##slackware. [15:23] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@80.246.88.13) joined ##slackware. [15:23] Action: edman007 wonders if googles new AI does essays [15:23] summon the power of greyskull [15:23] Action: edman007 turns the AI on and asks himself for an essay [15:23] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-104-178.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [15:24] what a hyped of up this conflicker was [15:24] hmm [15:24] hyped up joke [15:24] nullboy: well..all in all the various parties did a good job of closing the hole [15:24] for the last few months it's been "omgz teh webz are endangered' [15:24] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:26] in a sick way i was sort of hoping to see my cable modem disconnected and kittens crying in the street...buut noooo [15:27] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[15:34] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [15:34] what do you guys think about all this crap http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/01/180209&art_pos=1 [15:34] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [15:35] now they're just being silly [15:35] and all your Cloud(TM) are belong to us. [15:36] cloud computing...wtf [15:36] nullboy, did you see what amazon is doing with cloud computing too? [15:36] didn't RMS said could computing was stupid? [15:36] and now.. for something completely different [15:36] http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2009/03/up-up-and-away-cloud-computing-reaches-for-the-sky.html [15:36] RMS says a lot of shit [15:37] Action: edman007 multiplies RMS by sqrt(2) [15:38] muhaha, now he is P-P [15:38] err...just P [15:38] Nick change: Tyrael -> Tyrael_ [15:38] must be the drugs [15:38] any thoughts on she best gawes available in SBo? [15:38] *games [15:38] openarena [15:38] Zordrak, what do you prefer, FPS or RTS? [15:40] for FPS i usually go with cube, trem, and nexiuz, for RTS i like warzone2100, ta-spring, glob2 [15:40] tuxracer :) [15:40] or driving [15:40] i don't know what ones are on SBo though [15:40] checking oot eduke3d [15:40] imarambiocatan__ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [15:44] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h115n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] eviljames: are you here? [15:44] duthac (n=mverhoff@FUSE-DEDICATED-66-161-181-131.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:46] Nick change: imarambiocatan__ -> nachox [15:46] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [15:46] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-83-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] i killed him :( [15:47] where do i get x64 flash player? can't get it off get.adobe.com [15:47] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] flash 10 has 64bit flash [15:49] but where do i download it [15:49] http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html [15:49] its not "officially" released yet it appears [15:49] google search: linux 64bit flash 3seconds.. first hit... [15:50] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.228) left irc: "I'll Be Back!!" [15:50] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h115n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:50] http://builds.slamd64.com/Multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ :> [15:50] Action: edman007 hugs gnash [15:50] adobe sucks [15:51] I tried to get gnash working once... [15:51] it pissed me off [15:51] I could not get gnash to work with anything [15:51] ++ [15:51] the flash10 for 64-bit is actually quite good [15:51] Adobe may suck, but Gnash isn't useable in its current state. [15:51] aye [15:51] I have no issues with the flash10 beta [15:51] sh0ne (n=Unknown@91.150.105.135) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Dominian: me neither [15:51] ++ again :D [15:51] i did try for the cause =P [15:51] hehe [15:51] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware. [15:52] The only issue I have right now are the k3b svn builds for kde4... seem to be freakin' slow.. and eat resources .. horribly [15:54] Dominian: which svn are you using? [15:55] ummm [15:55] Action: Dominian looks [15:55] r947642 is working well for me so far [15:55] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:55] k3b-r944746-x86_64-1 [15:55] thats a serious number of commuts [15:55] *commits [15:55] aye [15:55] nullboy: I may have to pull newer svn [15:55] I even emailed the maintainer to inform him that it works well on Slamd64 [15:55] I got a ":)" in reply [15:55] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] hehe [15:56] eviljames, gnash works just fine on youtube [15:56] i just pulled the latest one again too r947959 [15:56] building now [15:56] .. mhats up with earlier builds again? [15:56] nullboy: more commits.. geeze [15:56] and for the rest of the sites, well people like flashblock, right? [15:56] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:56] lol [15:57] I could not even get gnash to work on youtube [15:57] you... tube? Who uses that crap anyway? Vlogs are stupid. [15:57] spmd (i=loli@189.52.152.175) joined ##slackware. [15:57] You use youtube to watch weird al stuf [15:57] thrice`, it will build without the video deps, since its configure only checks for ffmpeg/gstreamer, it does not check if they support the youtube video codecs [15:57] not everything is a vlog though, there's plenty of darwinistic activities being filmed [15:58] I'm just too white and nerdy [15:58] I suppose, but I'd rather just have those people be quietly removed from the gene pool. I don't care how they go. [15:58] Unless it's particularly hilarious. [15:58] thrice`, basically you have to install gst-ffmpeg with all the youtube video codes to make youtube work [15:58] i like these comments in the k3b code: /tmp/k3b-r947959/libk3b/tools/k3blistview.cpp:513:2: warning: #warning FIXME: draw check mark [15:58] lol [15:59] nullboy, i drew one...now what? [15:59] lol [16:01] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [16:03] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.18.105) left irc: "Quit" [16:03] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware. [16:03] WindMaker (n=Administ@190.43.188.133) joined ##slackware. [16:04] WindMaker (n=Administ@190.43.188.133) left ##slackware. [16:05] blip- (n=blip-@unaffiliated/blip-) joined ##slackware. [16:05] slackwear.com [16:06] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Success [16:06] o'rly? 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[16:14] Action: Necos prods people at random [16:14] i hate essays [16:15] and i get a test tonight :( [16:15] eh [16:15] essays [16:15] could be worse [16:15] yea.. [16:15] worse? [16:15] no, can't be worse... [16:15] it could rain snakes [16:15] that would be fucking awesome [16:15] not worse [16:16] ...maybe they would even cancel my class.. [16:16] hehe [16:16] I had a cool lecture today [16:16] robot simulations [16:16] ohh [16:16] nice [16:16] with them big industrial robots [16:16] 6 axis of movements [16:17] did you get to play with arobot arm? they are fun [16:17] we programmed them to fight back in the day lol [16:17] i have electro magnetic theory test..and essays for my business ethics class :( [16:17] I tried to set it on "kill all humans" but it wouldnt work [16:17] phrag, yeah great fun [16:17] slackytude: yeah, skynet protocol does'nt sly =P [16:17] i don't want to go to my class [16:17] fly* [16:17] altho they only let us run simulations yet. that was kinda cool, too [16:18] Action: edman007 simulates a robot bowing up [16:18] and one student managed to hit the big red emergency shutdown button [16:18] edman007: then google what you need to know and have a lie in =P [16:19] phrag, yes...i'm good at that, i just suck at writing essays, especially if its non technical [16:19] anyone watch terminator sarah connor chronicles? loving that right now [16:19] i would much rather code.. [16:20] bussiness ethics? thats an oxymoron [16:20] lol [16:20] no, just rare [16:20] slackytude, yea, thats why they offer it [16:20] heh [16:20] It's not an oxymoron, business is supposed to be conducted ethically. The problem is the people in business. [16:20] phrag, didnt like it, the new terminator is a pussy [16:20] pussy is good... [16:20] what, summer!? [16:21] summer is awesome! [16:21] eviljames, I thought they were there to made money [16:21] phrag, agreed [16:21] slackytude: That's the goal, not the method. [16:21] especially when she's kicking arse... way better than that girl in terminator 3 [16:21] damn govt fscking nickel and diming us to death. there was a $3.50 "electronics recycling fee" on my webcam [16:21] cripes [16:21] straterra: ACK [16:22] Alan_Hicks: May I PM? [16:22] Sure. [16:22] haha, that's for the gov to reclaim their remote activation chip back =P [16:22] phrag: it's calssed as "Home A/V" so there's a recycling fee [16:23] ie just another tax [16:24] the jat [16:24] Just Another Tax tax [16:24] NyteOwl: that's silly [16:25] phrag: better than the $12+ fee on my LCD monitor [16:25] surely they should pay people to recycle, not charge them ? [16:25] the recycling costs more than the chip [16:25] really don't get that [16:26] phrag: its just the govt's way of moving the cost of recycling the stuff from the various governmetn levels to the consumer [16:26] phrag, pay the people for recylcing? how would the government get money then? [16:26] or reward them in some way for being conciencious citizens [16:26] diabolical [16:26] in some places the fees are built into the price when you buy. here it's seperate on the invoice (I'd prefer it that way actually) [16:27] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-81-158.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:27] http://ventura.craigslist.org/sad/1079610072.html [16:27] Geek Squad training a plus? WTF [16:27] back in Paris :) [16:27] Nick change: ROKO__ -> ROKO__-[afk] [16:27] y0 Camarade_Tux [16:27] nullboy, yea, hahaha [16:27] ROKO__-[afk]: again, turn that off please... next time you get booted [16:28] nullboy, geek squad is sort of a pc repair franchise? [16:28] ROKO__-[afk] (n=RoKo__@85.217.253.176) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [16:28] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-5d5c25ee5d5a46a1) joined ##slackware. [16:28] slackytude: yeah, and one filled with scandals of customer data theft [16:28] slackytude, no, pc rip off franchise [16:28] heh, yeah, I rember reading about it [16:28] werent they closed? or ran out of money? [16:28] slackytude, basically they steal your porn, take your money, and reinstall your OS without fixing the problem [16:28] wanna start our own called slack squad and put them out of business ? [16:29] slackytude: no they are still there but restructured. they are a sub of best buy [16:29] edman007, sounds like a great bussiness plan. ethical too [16:29] fiya_werkin (i=fiyawerx@starburst.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] who doesn't like free pr0n =P [16:29] nullboy, ah, ok [16:29] nullboy, thx for the tip the other day (geoip) problem solved. [16:29] yo slackytude :) [16:29] jonsmith1982: awesome man! [16:30] slackytude: there were instances where the Geek Squad had actually setup dedicated servers for holding the stolen customer data [16:30] Camarade_Tux, I played with big robot arms today ^-^ [16:30] nullboy, heh, nice [16:30] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [16:30] phrag@boxen:~> geoiplookup google.co.uk [16:30] GeoIP Country Edition: US, United States [16:30] nullboy, BOFH style [16:30] =/ [16:31] that's cuase there's no BW in the UK [16:31] slackytude, big robots arm ? [16:31] bw? [16:31] bandwidth [16:31] phrag, if you are in the UK, just ask the government, they know where you are :P [16:31] pf [16:31] =P [16:31] Camarade_Tux, yeah, lecture in robotics. 6 axis industrial robot arm [16:32] bored robot programmers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yln_IGDuOCo [16:32] Action: NyteOwl priced out a beemer this afternoon - only came to k [16:33] slackytude, so you can build a terminator now ? [16:33] nullboy, heh,know that one. great stuff [16:33] er $55k [16:33] Camarade_Tux, I was looking for a "kill all humans" switch but that feature was missing [16:33] Camarade_Tux, Im trying,tho [16:33] NyteOwl, o_O [16:33] that would mess me the hell up [16:33] NyteOwl, do you watch "Top Gear"? [16:34] slackytude: you forgot the 1st Law of Robotics :P [16:34] NyteOwl, 55k? [16:34] jonsmith1982: never heard of it [16:34] NyteOwl, eh, there was a big crossed out A [16:34] NyteOwl, no Asimov for them [16:34] slackytude: yup $55 thou (before tax) [16:35] BMW 335i [16:35] NyteOwl, are you trying to build a cinema? [16:35] slackytude: a cinema? no - why? [16:35] 55 grand for a beamer is kinda expensive [16:35] window shopping for a car [16:36] slackytude: try buying a BMW 7 series - $150k+ [16:36] eh, not quite my budget [16:36] no, nor mine [16:37] slackytude, maybe you can do a robot to get golf balls back then ;p [16:37] though my wallpaper car is in the 90k range [16:37] Action: fiya_werkin just spent 16K on a new car [16:37] Camarade_Tux, heh [16:37] Id like to build a mars robot [16:37] ^-^ [16:38] wanted a mazdaspeed3, got a mazda 5, not quite the same :( [16:38] it would totaly kick that mars rovers ass [16:38] 16k for a Mazda5, new? where do you live? [16:38] Alpha Romeo. [16:38] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.165.133) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:39] northeast PA, got it for 16.5 which was just about invoice [16:39] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] well, golf balls, rocks from Mars, it boils down to the same ;p [16:39] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: "01001110 01100101 01110010 01100100 00100001" [16:40] I want one of these http://www.nyteowl.ca/2008-gtr.png [16:40] we would only buy a standard, and only the sport model came in stick [16:40] ready for a kid, not ready for a regular mninvan, so we compromised heh [16:40] fiya_werkin: that vehicle would be considerably more than that here [16:40] NyteOwl where? [16:40] Nova SCotia, Canada [16:40] isn't it called Premacy or something there? [16:41] ? [16:41] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] the RX8 is nice [16:41] its not the miata, its the mini van looking one [16:41] fellow across the street has a 3 sedan. a bit small for ym taste [16:42] Yes I know the 5 [16:42] yeah, i like the 3 hatchback, the 2010 3 is slick [16:42] couldn't convince my wife it was big enough though [16:42] Action: NyteOwl dislikes little cars [16:42] 13:42 < fiya_werkin> couldn't convince my wife it was big enough though [16:43] looks like noobfarm material ^^ [16:43] ROFL [16:43] definitely [16:43] lol! [16:43] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.34.60) joined ##slackware. [16:43] Action: fiya_werkin grumbles [16:43] Nick change: fiya_werkin -> fiyawerx [16:43] at least get the name right [16:44] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [16:46] If I wanted a Minivan I think I'd look at the Honda [16:46] lynx ftw ! http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2009/04/01/deluge_of_browser_security_issues_drives_mass_migration.html ^^ [16:46] Fenrod (n=stefan@brln-4dbc406c.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [16:46] it was pretty much between the m5, a crv, and a caravan [16:46] this is what i drive http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/100_1954.JPG [16:46] tricycle? [16:46] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] yeah not the truck, the bikes in the back [16:47] ;) [16:47] hehe [16:47] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.25) joined ##slackware. [16:47] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [16:47] base price for a Mazda5 here is $20,495 [16:47] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:47] but neither of us wanted to drive a regular minivan, and the crv's dont come in stick anymore [16:47] nullboy: what desert is that? [16:48] Pig_Pen: California, that's the El Mirage dry lake [16:48] the 5 is nice since its stick, and the back windows roll down, its classified as a wagon for insurance [16:49] need to put my cd player and amp in it, and tint the windows, then i'll be happier [16:49] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:51] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] 16 500 U.S. dollars = 20 857.6409 Canadian dollars [16:53] seems about right then [16:54] what i hate about most cars & pickups is the design of the stock in-dash stereos, they make it fscked up for installing an aftermarket stereo (always the wrong dimensions) and adding a two-way radio under-dash is next to impossible in most vehicles nowadays [16:54] http://static.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/images/Auto/evox/305967/img_057.jpg is what the stock stereo looks like [16:55] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/100_1970.JPG [16:55] same place, different view [16:55] the newer ones are better. they're either DIN or double DIN so mounting is better. I lucked out for mine, the space for the optional EQ was DIN size so my shortwave fit right it [16:55] if you order from crutchfield, they give you a whole new face that fits a din / double din stereo, along with harnesses and all but for free [16:55] s/it/in/ [16:55] nullboy, i would love to take a fast motorcycle out on that dry lakebed [16:56] Pig_Pen: ahah i've seen so many bikes explode doing that [16:56] they go last gear pinned for miles [16:56] "BOOM* [16:56] lol [16:56] I dunno if iyt's worth replacing the facotry unbit in mine. Hard to find a cassette unit aftermarket these days [16:56] about as hard to find a working cassett, i'd imagine [16:56] :) [16:56] cassette are obsolete [16:57] obsolete is just lack of imagination. I'm not about to throw away a few hudnred tapes of music becasue the format isn;t popualr anymore [16:57] they stand up better in a hot car in summer and cold in winter than CD's do [16:57] i agree, i have a shoebox full of cassette tapes [16:58] no player [16:58] i'd still rip them and just use burnable cds, that way ti doesn't matter how they hold up [16:58] or heck, most of the even cheaper stereos now have some sort of usb interface you can just plug a flash drive in [16:58] Pig_Pen: i have some video of us doing about 100 across the lake bed in a truck [16:58] i need a place to upload it! [16:59] do they play a usb thumbdrive full of mp3 files? [16:59] nullboy: youtube? [16:59] Pig_Pen: yep [16:59] coolbeans! [16:59] fiyawerx: can i upload ~18MB files there? [17:00] thought the limit was 100mb [17:00] you can do hd video now doubt 18mb will be a big problem [17:00] perfect! [17:00] i'm doing it [17:01] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.93.236.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net) left irc: "stybla loves me!! :^" [17:01] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:01] i know we have some backwoods people in here...i'll show you all the desert rats [17:01] \o/ [17:01] Fenrod (n=stefan@brln-4dbc406c.pool.einsundeins.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:01] your videos can be up to 1GB in size and 10 minutes long [17:01] news to me, pretty nifty [17:01] ejal (n=ejal@89-139-145-85.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [17:02] fiyawerx: do you know if they recode for you? [17:02] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware. [17:02] or do i have to encode? [17:02] good evening [17:02] not sure [17:02] was just googling for it [17:03] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[17:05] Gewd Eavening Laydees adn Gentlemen [17:05] hm, i miss linux [17:05] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:05] well, maybe, i miss hanging out in the linux irc chats more than i miss linux i think [17:05] dscastro (n=diego@unaffiliated/dscastro) left irc: "Saindo" [17:06] brb [17:06] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [17:07] how to make your processor run 10°C cooler : 'killall -s SIGSTOP firefox-bin' :) [17:07] ejal: what is wrong with your mouse??? [17:08] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] good evening...the mouse doesnt work at all...its a logitec ps2...on demesg its identified as a macintosh emulation.. [17:08] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: "Leaving." [17:09] hmm, mac emulation? thats odd [17:09] http://pastebin.com/d3823fd69 this makes my logitec optical wheel mouse work in ps2 [17:09] is jimmy kimmel really live ? [17:09] in /etc/X11/xorg.cong [17:10] in /etc/X11/xorg.conf * [17:12] yes...hmm..the xorg.conf is right...but the mouse doesnt even move.. [17:14] as i said..the problem seems to be prior to the X...on dmesg.. [17:14] ...Uploaded (processing, please wait) [17:15] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-69-236-84-41.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-69-236-84-41.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:15] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [17:15] question. what is a good tool to check for bad ram? [17:15] memtest86 [17:15] i'm run memtest86 and ms memtester. [17:15] but they are giving me completely different results. [17:16] does either of them show a problem? [17:16] what led you to try to test the ram in the first place? [17:16] segfaults when installing slack12.2 [17:16] there shouldn't be any problems with a slackbuild for 12.2 on -current? (wireshark) [17:17] P4C0: that one works fine [17:17] memtest86 did. [17:17] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:17] nullboy: thanks [17:17] Pig_Pen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3_9cLxZ3UM [17:17] lol [17:17] that's the first time i've ever put anything on youtube, let alone made an account [17:17] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:18] that wind was playing heck on the microphone [17:19] yeah [17:19] wow, there's quite a few videos for that el mirage lake [17:19] El Mirage is where you can really open it up legally [17:19] thats pretty cool [17:19] the center of the lake bed is the fast lane [17:20] it's ~7 miles straight shot from end to end [17:20] yeah like you said good way to peg an engine tho [17:20] hehe [17:20] hmm...any idea..? 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[17:30] when i was truck driving i would come in to cali on I-40 to Barstow & take 58 to get on I-5 in Bakersfield about once or twice a month [17:31] i think mojave in right in the middle of those two points [17:31] here's another i shot a couple years ago [17:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2bONB2Yrrg [17:31] you can hear some guy "look how slow he's going" lol them WOOOOSH [17:32] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-100.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] is that the raptor [17:32] yep [17:33] i just have all kinds of squirely-dumb-questions because all my books are somewhere in storage - please bear with me some [17:33] thats supposed to be the leet fighter jet, supersonic & stealth [17:34] first does anyone use the apache that comes with slack or do you recompile like you had to circa ver 9 [17:35] ejal: what hardware do you have? sounds like some kernel module may need blacklisting [17:35] gem_cat: you don't need to recompile [17:35] am i the only one who likes xampp for personal use because of how easy it is to set it all up? I'm lazy [17:36] P4C0 (n=susana@200.124.22.34) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:36] since you are using slack (you are using slackware?) i would guess you have a x86 PC & the usual PS2 logitec mouse [17:36] i have a new install of slack 12.1 - I am looking at the httpd.conf - I think I want to change the ServerRoot to something besides "/usr" probably a new user home [17:38] is that something you might do? [17:38] not me, i dont run any server, just a desktop funky [17:39] flunky* [17:39] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:40] i might change my nic to "FunkyFlunky [17:40] there are lots of howto's online - with lots of conflicting advice - is there one for lamp using what comes with slack? [17:40] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:41] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.165.133) joined ##slackware. [17:41] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] intel p4,wd 40G hdd,1 gig generic ram,generic ps2 kb..the mouse ive mentioned...the distro is a slackware 12.1 and im a noob.. [17:41] gem_cat: wait for rworkman or AlienBob to make an appearance they are about the most knowledgeable in here [17:42] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] ejal: sounds like normal hardware to me, run lsmod and post the contents in to pastebin.com there could be a kernel module loading that you dont want or need [17:45] hmm...thing is..without the mouse..icant even mark,copy nor paste... [17:45] ah, damn catch 22 [17:45] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h66n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:45] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [17:46] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:46] certenly a catch.. [17:46] oh well friends olzheimers doesnt affect the smarts, just the memory - I will muddle thru thanks Pig_Pen, [17:47] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:47] you know enough about computers & hopefully Linux in general to do some detective work, i would suggest running lsmod and look for any kernel module that does not belong running in your system [17:47] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a83-132-113-29.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Client Quit [17:47] same here gem_cat old age is sneaking up on me too :D [17:48] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-100.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Vanishes with a small pop" [17:48] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:49] fiyawerx (i=fiyawerx@starburst.dreamhost.com) left irc: "CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" [17:49] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-165.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:50] ejal: comand lsmod > tetx then you will find it at your /home and Ctrl +A Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V you can put it to pastebin ;) [17:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-81-158.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:51] tnx i'll try it now [17:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-19-217.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:54] i'm uploading a couple areobatic flight videos that i filmed [17:54] aerobatic* [17:54] one is a simple loop and the other is a roll and then a stall to death spiral straight down [17:55] vald0r (n=vald0r@stjhnf0131w-142162008187.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] signal11 (i=esteban@host197.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Is their any way i can mount a ssh folder in KDE4 thats over a ssh tunnel. either through Dolphin or with sshfs or etc. open to ideas. I know on my M$ Windows box i use WinSCP to access my slackware server thats inside a network at work. But how do i do it in linux directly as a client [17:57] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-5d5c25ee5d5a46a1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-4969858a2c7b86a8) joined ##slackware. [17:59] you just solved your own problem... [17:59] just mount it with sshfs and navigate to your mount point with dolphin [18:00] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-9-26.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] hahahahaahahah [18:01] one of the myspacers finally removed the image! [18:01] lol! [18:01] Action: Dominian verified in the source [18:01] was it the thug? [18:01] nope! [18:01] hahahaha [18:01] http://www.myspace.com/lexi_lou_who [18:03] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [18:03] grab (n=at@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:05] nullboy: How would I mount it? [18:05] I need to connect to the gateway at work and then from that to my workstation inside [18:06] what do you mean by connect? [18:06] do you ssh to the gateway first then ssh to the workstation from the gateway? [18:08] or is you gateway setup to forward ssh connections to the internal workstation? 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[18:19] i bet ballmer is angry that obama did not give the queen a zune [18:19] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [18:19] lol [18:20] I bet that Ford gets bought my Microsoft in the near future. [18:20] That or they're not taking bailout money from the government because they're taking it from MS [18:20] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:20] hes probably throwing chairs and and cursing "i friggin bury him" [18:21] if that happens my desire to own a ford one ton dually with a powerstroke diesel will die [18:21] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [18:21] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.5) left irc: [18:22] othermindszine (n=othermin@19.sub-70-193-11.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:22] i think toyota makes good pickups, my next pickup wont be from the big three [18:22] I refuse to buy anything union-made [18:22] i like my Tacoma [18:22] i had a Ford before and the Tacoma is much higher quality with more thought put into it [18:23] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-9-26.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:25] my 1989 toyota pickup is the best !!! [18:25] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] better gas mileage than the newest junk these days [18:25] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:25] the government is such a mess that i will continue to work as a contract laborer for cash under the table and not report anything, might as well since they dont "really" represent me [18:25] little things mostly, like the ranger would allow windshield washing fluid to spray onto the side windows at speed but the tacoma had edges that would direct the fluid ouver to truck and away from the side windows [18:25] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.25) left irc: "Leaving." [18:26] dangazda (n=daniel@r2u84.net.upc.cz) left ##slackware. [18:26] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@80.246.88.13) left irc: "Leaving" [18:26] tacoma has a glove box light, ford didn't, just stuff like that [18:27] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:27] nullboy: No its not forwarded. I have to SSH to the server and then ssh to the workstation inside the network. otherwise i could just sshfs me@domain.tld:22/home/me /mnt/stuff and wala [18:27] i bet finding a good used toyota pickup will be hard to find if nobody wants to get rid of them [18:27] Does anyone here use Digg? [18:27] nullboy: so i need it to work over a tunnel [18:27] vald0r: why can't you just sshfs mount the workstations directory to the server and then do that again [18:27] no you don't [18:28] like doing the bunnyhop [18:28] yeah leap frog it [18:29] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] othermindszine (n=othermin@138.sub-70-193-243.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] othermindszine (n=othermin@138.sub-70-193-243.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:31] othermindszine (n=othermin@138.sub-70-193-243.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:34] headbrake (n=headbrak@net-93-144-25-229.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [18:34] join slackware [18:35] success [18:35] hi all [18:35] you joined! [18:36] vald0r: the reason i suggest the sshfs leap frong is because the other way to use a middle man and forward a port through and across is to use reverse tunnels [18:36] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:36] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] HEy [18:37] vald0r: the sshfs leap frog seems like it will be easier, at least in my mind [18:37] vald0r: but if you're into pain here you go http://micrux.net/?p=26 [18:37] ok i have a question. i want to boot my machine directly in user mode, not root, and startx (xfce), is it possible? [18:38] slackware doesn't boot into a root account though [18:38] yes. [18:38] if you want it to start with X running edit your /etc/inittab [18:38] no [18:38] slackware is old school, the way its supposed to be [18:38] slackware does not boot into a root account [18:39] right [18:39] it boots into runlevel 3 which is multiuser CLI mode [18:39] it sounds like you want runlevel 4 [18:39] yes....i want to log....(limited user) and then start X [18:40] in auto [18:40] ... [18:40] hmm...please bare with me...couldnt copy nor paste.. [18:40] not going to happen. you might be able to make kde or xfce autologin but not from runlevel 3 [18:40] ahhh ok [18:41] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [18:41] to do autologin from RL3 requires some hackish things [18:41] that's because i'd have to write my user password somewhere? [18:42] that's part of it yes [18:42] i think KDM will allow a user account auto login in the kde control panel [18:42] su - youruser -c 'source /etc/profile ; source /home/youruser/.bash_profile ; startx' [18:43] put that in rc.local and you'll be fine :) [18:43] d4rwin (n=lucas@189.4.117.179) joined ##slackware. [18:43] d4rwin (n=lucas@189.4.117.179) left ##slackware. [18:43] mmmm [18:43] it sounds good [18:43] :) [18:43] i've tried rc.local [18:44] you can actually ommit the source things, but if you have configs there you'll probably need them [18:44] but did't know how to give my pass..... [18:44] sure [18:44] thank you all! [18:44] you're welcome [18:45] oh headbrake don't ommit the first source [18:45] so where is he going to enter a password? [18:45] that actually will load path env setting [18:45] he wants it automated [18:45] kde's control center > System Administration > Logon Manager > Convenience enable both the paswordless logon and Enable auto logon [18:45] rc.local is ran by root, when you use su from root it doesn't ask you for a password [18:45] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:46] yes.... [18:46] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] and you will need to change inittab's default runlevel from 3 to 4 [18:47] i can't understand why starting X from rc.local at boot doesnt' ask password.... [18:47] very unsecure [18:47] oh god.. [18:47] it's not insecure [18:47] think about it... [18:47] who is allowed to edit rc.local? [18:47] ...root [18:47] ... [18:47] and who can use su without being asked for a password? :) [18:48] lol, evil blackhat hackers around ever corner, the internet is a ghetto :D [18:48] ...right but after the reboot it will be there without password [18:48] if only root can edit rc.local you'd have to already have been owned for this to be an issue... [18:48] :D [18:48] yeap, and that's what you wanted right? [18:48] hell they can even supply runlevel 1 at lilo's prompt [18:49] or boot from a live cd, usb, etc [18:49] headbrake: whoa now...you asked for this in the first place and now you say it's a hazard? what do you think it was going to do? [18:49] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:49] yes....you 2 are right [18:49] and we're not considering if the guy has an axe and smash the pc.. [18:49] hehe [18:49] any time you save *any* user's password you're setting yourself up for mayhem [18:50] and even worse if someone can just power cycle the system and enter single user mode [18:50] then there are no rules [18:51] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [18:51] if someone can be within shooting or touching range of the system you don't even need to worry about password security ;) [18:52] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [18:52] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:53] yes....physical access>>total access :) [18:53] i have a really l33t password cracker. want to see a screen shot of it? [18:53] http://tinyurl.com/2uj7zp [18:54] Better not be lemon party, I'm at work asshole. [18:54] ;) [18:54] lol [18:54] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:54] lol [18:54] if it was would be instant ban [18:54] i like that cracker =) [18:54] We should ban nullboy anyway [18:54] hey now [18:54] i think i nearly was banned the other day though [18:54] never got formal but i could feel it [18:55] What were you doing? [18:55] i saw a dude walking around a hackin festival with a 3 phase 64amp socket wired to an ethernet cable [18:55] being sort of mean. [18:56] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] j14159 (n=jeremy@154.5.76.16) left irc: "home" [18:58] i was thinking about the xterminal...if i run it from limited and then i run "su root"+password....is the same thing in terms of security of running directly the root shell? [18:59] if you su to root and know the password you are root [18:59] 3 phase? like 220 Volts AC? [18:59] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-104-178.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [19:02] danhm (n=vincent@96.39.5.248) joined ##slackware. [19:02] danhm (n=vincent@96.39.5.248) left ##slackware ("I'll miss you, John. I really will."). [19:03] ...so if i have to give only a single command that requires root what is the most secure way? (a sort of runas in winzoz) [19:04] ...you can understand i'm a windows ex-user :) [19:04] since oyu said you want X to start just set the system to start into RL4 and setup kdm to login as a user [19:04] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [19:05] ok [19:05] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] e2kb (n=carlosli@200-180-100-5.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:05] i'll try [19:05] bye [19:05] headbrake (n=headbrak@net-93-144-25-229.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) left irc: "Leaving" [19:05] headbrake: also, you don't need to specificy root when you su, only if you su to a user... and to pass roots environemtn variables, use su - [19:06] merh =P [19:06] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:06] i hope he doesn't set it up to autologin as root though [19:06] can you tell i have shell lag by my insane typo rate =P [19:06] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] lol he wants windows security on linux... [19:07] that's awesome [19:07] phrag: Your pure awesome more than he could take. [19:07] haha =) [19:08] MapMan (i=mapman@dynamic-78-8-52-170.ssp.dialog.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:09] MapMan (i=mapman@dynamic-78-8-52-57.ssp.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:10] well im still stuck with a non resonsive mouse...thinking maybe if i could get into the initial setup i could maybe get it to work...1.what do you guys think..? 2.how do i do that..? [19:10] run pkgtool [19:10] ejal: did you try modprobe psmouse? [19:11] choose setup [19:14] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] XGizzmo: no i havent but will first tnx.. nullboy: the machin doesnt give me access to setup not even as root... [19:14] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:16] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Client Quit [19:16] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:18] run pkgtool ejal [19:18] XGizzmo: just did...do i need to restart X after that? [19:18] yes [19:19] crzspc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-40-140.50-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [19:19] no [19:19] well? [19:20] hmm..is that a y or a n Pig_Pen? [19:20] yeah, go ahead and restart X [19:20] you should not have to restart x [19:21] if he was in X when he modprobed psmouse? [19:21] yeah it should still pick it up [19:21] I have had to do it many times [19:21] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:22] e2kb (n=carlosli@200-180-100-5.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:22] well 1.im still in X have modprobed..and no mouse... [19:22] what kink of mouse is it? [19:22] kind [19:22] crzspc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-40-140.50-151.net24.it) left irc: Client Quit [19:22] 2.what should i look for in pkgtool..? [19:22] kinky mice! [19:23] ejal: i told you, just run pkgtool and select setup [19:23] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:23] its a ps2 logitec...and worked till the last login... [19:24] check the back of your PC and make sure it is plugged in good [19:25] Is it plugged in? :) [19:25] lol [19:25] you beat me Pig_Pen [19:25] erin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] hey everybody [19:25] lucky shot, usually i am slow [19:25] who is this everybody person? [19:25] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A7791D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] Nick change: erin -> LinuxyErin [19:26] Dominian: i dunno, probably hangs out with that Peer guy who is always closing connections [19:26] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A77958.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:26] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [19:26] hmm there we go [19:26] ok..im going for the pkgtool...and yes it is plugged in.. [19:27] nullboy: damn! [19:27] had to write http server in java [19:27] sux [19:27] er. [19:27] why? [19:27] lol [19:27] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.173) joined ##slackware. [19:27] i loled [19:27] an http server in java is like.. building a car out of bottle caps.. doesn't make much sense :P [19:28] prof said so, thats why [19:28] bah [19:28] screw the proof [19:28] :) [19:28] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-40-140.50-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [19:28] Or making a car out of dissassembled stealth helicopters. [19:28] I would if he was a hot chick instead of old, male, java obssesed teach [19:28] no chance of that happening [19:29] java is damn ugly [19:29] lol java is ugly [19:29] I dont know why people like it [19:29] without eclipse you couldnt get stuff done [19:29] i hate how you gotta type so much for it lol [19:29] lol yea [19:30] although i did do my senior project using vim and java [19:30] ouch [19:32] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host97-138-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao!" [19:32] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-40-140.50-151.net24.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:33] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-40-140.50-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [19:34] hmm..just did the pkgtool bit...guess i should reboot... [19:34] and next excersise is to write a java client wich will query the server and calculate latency, throughput and a lot of other stuff [19:34] reboot? [19:34] why would you reboot? [19:35] you dont need to reboot linux. for hecks sakes, if you have to you can just kexec [19:35] what is this reboot you speak of? i never heard the term before :-p [19:35] nullboy: http://slackadelic.com/2009/04/01/in-the-process-of-everything-i-find-leechers/ [19:36] lol that one belongs in noobfarm [19:36] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-40-140.50-151.net24.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:36] LinuxyErin, I think windows user do it ^-^ [19:36] well..how else should i get the mouse to respond..? [19:36] Dominian, heh [19:36] hehe [19:37] :) [19:37] oh the humanity. a thug life ruined! [19:37] that rock guy or whatever.. [19:37] Doesn't check his myspace page very often [19:37] so it'll be up for .. quite a while [19:37] heh [19:37] Dominian, so, the hole is closed? [19:37] slackytude: aye [19:37] wordpress? [19:38] slackytude: Looks like it could've been a few things.. but I did some manual things with htaccess files and some permissions settings to fix some issues [19:38] slackytude: dunno really... hard to say.. but secured the blog anyway.. mounted /tmp in tmpfs as noexec,nosuid [19:38] so even if they DO it again.. won't matter [19:38] rite [19:39] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.34) left irc: "Leaving" [19:40] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.34) joined ##slackware. [19:41] Dominian: set it so he has goats.cx if he links to your images :D [19:41] well since i AM a noob...and have changed the gpm in setup...and yet the mouse is NOT working...rebooting sounds logical to me...any other thots here...? [19:42] did you restart gpm? [19:42] nope...how do i do that...? [19:43] /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm restart [19:43] Pig_Pen: er... I did one better? [19:43] sounds liketubgirl [19:43] Pig_Pen: http://www.myspace.com/ROCXSTARTHU6 [19:43] post the link to that loser's myspace page [19:43] yeah, thanks [19:43] that's the guy with the tiled background [19:43] be warned... [19:43] thank you... [19:43] its not for the faint hearted [19:43] lmao! [19:43] lolz [19:43] :) [19:44] BOFH points for you, Reverend [19:44] [ in bed ] [19:44] heh [19:44] Oh it was someting tha twas nicer at first... [19:44] and then I just killed hotlinmking all together [19:44] then I was like "Time.. for some fun..." [19:44] lol [19:45] I've always seen this type of stuff done... [19:45] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:45] but never had a chance to do it myself... so now.. i can say.. "Yep... fsck with me... You get lemonparty!" [19:46] fsck em, he dont need to be hotlinking to other people's images, personally i think MySpace is uber lamo, everyone just collects other people's property and posts it on some page with their name on it, pretty damn close to stealing [19:46] ohh yes [19:46] the images they were linking to are copyrighted [19:46] dont not meddle in the files of Dominian, for they are subtle and quick to anger [19:46] and *I* do have permission from their authors to use them [19:46] slurping up your bandwidth taking images without your permission [19:47] well, pwn3d are they.. entertained are we. [19:47] :) [19:47] a good day then [19:47] One of the sites that was linking.. took the image down already [19:47] nice april trick, too [19:47] LinuxyErin_ (n=Erin@76.208.82.72) joined ##slackware. [19:47] too bad it's not the animated GIF version [19:47] slackytude: oh yes [19:47] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.165.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:47] hehe [19:47] LinuxyErin_ (n=Erin@76.208.82.72) left irc: Client Quit [19:47] nullboy: dude.. that would make me freakin' sick [19:48] lol [19:48] nullboy: I took everything I had to be able to add that damn text to it... [19:48] meatswing has an animated gif [19:48] no.. animated... gifs [19:48] I will throw up [19:48] lmao [19:48] You always just HOPE they are photoshopped... [19:48] but when you see an animated gif... [19:49] your hope.. dwindles... then you curl into the fetal position.. and start mumbling "that.. burned my eyes..." [19:49] wait a sec. you got the permissions to use that pic? you know them, do you? [19:49] Action: slackytude shudders [19:49] uhhh not that one [19:50] I do NOT want to know who holds that copyright [19:50] i remember the first time i ever seen goats.cx posted in a slashdot comment i was shocked, i wanted to erase my memory of that badly [19:50] lol [19:50] Pig_Pen: oh god.. yeah [19:50] clicked on a link in irc [19:50] the fool I was [19:50] ya know if I wanted to be REALLY mean.. I could cause a URL redirect :) [19:50] hrm... [19:50] grazymax (n=grazymax@host111-152-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:50] bbeecher2 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:51] oh hahahahahahaha [19:51] give me a minute [19:51] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:52] windows is awful at handling file extensions, you can make a javascript that does something evil and add a jpg or bmp after the js and it will run, once i found a virus discuised as a bmp and as soon as you tried to open it with ms-paint it disapeard and windows was never the same until a reformat & clean install [19:52] HAHAHAHAHa Found another 1r ONE! [19:52] JUST connected and logged into his profile [19:53] http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=15966884&orig=Pymk_PYMK_UHP_C [19:53] hahaha [19:53] look at all the linux OS's hitting that page [19:53] hahahaha [19:54] lol [19:54] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) joined ##slackware. [19:54] this is so gnarly [19:54] that was funny [19:54] my god [19:55] just think of the horror [19:55] "im' a tough guy!" [19:55] lol [19:55] uhh dude... are you gay? [19:55] how are people finding your image so frequently? [19:55] "WTF!?!?!?" [19:55] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:55] velusip: google search [19:55] velusip: I've fixed it so people can't hotlink to it now [19:55] however, I did "special" rules just for myspace ingrates :) [19:55] :P [19:55] Sounds like fun. [19:56] this like ternet 10x [19:56] I think the most emo thing you can do is delete your myspace. Set an example, emokids! [19:57] unite and disappear! [19:57] he he [19:57] I'm such a dick [19:57] brb.. smoking [19:57] i tried to delete my facebook once, kind of annoying how they dont actually delete the profile though [19:58] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE5803.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [19:59] I think you can contact them and ask them to remove it. [19:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Who knows what they actually do with it. Probably disgusting things in the back room. [20:00] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:00] they sell it to old homos so they can molest it [20:03] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-153-48.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] Heya,folks..How's everyone? [20:03] laughing our asses off [20:03] hmm..sorry no curser responce to the mouse movements...tho i have changed to a ps mouse in setup and restarted the rc.gpm... [20:03] At what,nullboy? [20:04] Hi there! Doing okay, just seeking docs on doing netboots and netinstalls [20:04] I really don't want to buy CDs DVDs to burn... [20:04] ejal: what does /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse look like? the line after the block of text that starts with 'options' [20:05] velusip: you looking at PXE style installs or would USB booting with network install work? [20:06] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [20:06] velusip: either way, here are the docs http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [20:06] PXE would be sweet, but it's not necessary. Just avoiding the temporary compact disc medium [20:06] those readmes are really thorough too [20:06] sweet [20:07] velusip: i just boot off USB (if the system supports it) and then point the installer to a samba share on the network [20:07] i'll check and brb.. [20:07] hehe, well I don't have samba, but if tftp works thats awesome [20:08] Portmapper (n=Port@87.109.206.220) joined ##slackware. [20:08] rworkman: you around? [20:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-170.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] velusip: for installing you can put the package sets in ftp/http/cifs-smb-windows share/nfs [20:11] bittin___ (i=bittin@anapnea.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] bittin (n=bittin@62.212.66.69) left ##slackware. [20:11] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] MLanden: something that I did [20:12] nullboy: oh dude.. that one myspace profile is getting nailed too [20:13] OK,Dominian [20:13] nullboy: it reads - options psmouse proto=imps [20:14] nullboy: ok.. I had to fix th e.htaccess I forgot to include profile.myspace.com [20:14] Nick change: bittin___ -> bittin [20:14] the lemonparty thing? [20:14] oh yes [20:14] MLanden: already had one of the leechers remove the image [20:14] :) [20:15] and found another linking to it [20:15] bwabwabwa...well,'tis April 1st..>:) [20:15] grazymax (n=grazymax@host111-152-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:16] hehe [20:16] BAM and my first victim of the new leecher.. pwned [20:16] doesn't it depend on the browser? [20:16] some just don't offer the referrer [20:17] negative [20:17] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-b46dd3980189fb76) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:17] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:17] the referer means nothing [20:17] its how the request comes in to Apache [20:17] could it be that resttarting X or even rebooting the machine help me out..? [20:17] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:17] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11598 [20:17] is that even realistic or is this a total reporting issue? [20:18] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:18] that's using KVM as the vm with slackware-current as the host and guest [20:18] host does have a newer kernel added though [20:18] hrm wedird [20:19] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [20:19] back later [20:20] maybe it's working more from ram in the vm so it's really showing something like a cached read [20:21] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] hmm..well im lost here..gonna try restarting X....hope to see you soon and i thank you very much.. [20:24] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [20:24] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [20:25] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.173) left irc: [20:25] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-65019f2f8376ccb6) joined ##slackware. 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O_o" [20:40] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:40] I'm thinking of writing up my own config utility in cakephp for my new laptop. What do you think? [20:41] I'll write my own organizers and stuff on it as well though [20:41] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:43] mogunus (n=chatzill@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] ejal (n=ejal@89-139-145-85.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [20:45] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] well...im back on the slack...the mouse is WORKING...thank you all from the bottom of my heart! [20:46] Good to hear,elaj [20:46] sorry ejal* [20:49] no need for sorrow...thank you again..spesially nullboy [20:49] you're welcome [20:51] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [20:52] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:57] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.208.3.173) joined ##slackware. [20:58] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] why does every tech company have to have an april fools joke [21:00] it gets kinda old after awhile [21:00] lol, I was surprised, nothing happened on campus today [21:00] got plenty of tweets full of april fools jokes though [21:00] Nick change: tpollard_ -> tpollard [21:00] the first couple of the day are the only funny ones [21:01] berkough: you actually use twitter? [21:01] opisboi (n=opis@2001:470:f0c0:0:708e:b0f4:d239:be59) joined ##slackware. [21:01] guilty as charged [21:01] http://twitter.com/Steve_Buscemi [21:02] fucking hilarious, click on the second tweet down [21:02] the craigslist link [21:02] berkough: you should be punched in the face [21:02] haha [21:02] is twitter worse than myspace? [21:02] it passes the time between classes if I'm not trying to chase tail [21:02] nullboy: its not any better [21:03] I'm reading the FreeBSD handbook right now too... should I be punched int he face for that? [21:03] no, because that is actually useful to read [21:04] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.221.19.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.221.19.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:05] berkough: it is a good document [21:05] this world would be a better place if everyone read the freebsd handbook at least once [21:05] well, obviously, always kind of been a slackware person [21:05] but think I might finally setup a freebsd box [21:06] I've never actually used their ports system before [21:06] I had a freebsd box for awhile but I didn't really like it [21:06] FreeBSD is good to learn [21:06] ports is pretty amazing [21:06] aceofspades19: any specific problems? [21:06] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] freebsd is amazing [21:07] slackware is a bit bsd like [21:07] aceofspades19: yep ports is good stuff [21:07] ports is amazing! [21:07] freebsd is kinda slack-like [21:07] like them better than slackbuilds [21:07] berkough: I just didn't like it as much as slackware [21:07] I found it a lot more complex then slackware [21:07] yeah I'm back with slack [21:07] bsd is old, but great [21:07] very old [21:08] the community is just different with slackware, I never felt geeky enough to get into FreeBSD i guess it what is is [21:08] it is* [21:08] the freebsd community is a lot more DIY then slackware I found [21:08] or like I was running an important enough server or workstation setup to even use it [21:08] what means DIY? [21:09] Do it Yourself [21:09] aH ok thx [21:09] read the manual closely as the freebsd community doesn't like people who do not do their own legwork [21:09] anyone know the best way to edit a PDF file? [21:09] heh, hitest: that's what it is, unix snobs [21:09] :) [21:10] I don't like how freebsd uses paritions [21:10] its confusing [21:10] acidchild: openoffice.org? [21:10] virtual slices [21:10] personally i think Linux is way better tech than the *BSDs [21:11] I've run FreeBSD since the 5.2 days....but...I prefer Slackware. I just like it better [21:11] hmmm, well maybe I'll never get around to actually installing it [21:11] freebsd doesn't support a lot of filesystems out of the box [21:12] true,it can a real PITA on setting up [21:12] freebsd does not handle logical disk partition either [21:13] I ran a dual boot with slackware 12.2 and freebsd 7.1 until just recently.....it is a good learning experience. For me thought Slack is better [21:13] though [21:13] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] the major thing I was thinking about for an older system, to use it as an NFS server [21:14] i know how much you like to slack...so i made you a slack in a slack so you can slack while slack now http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/slack-in-slack.png [21:15] Portmapper (n=Port@87.109.206.220) left irc: [21:15] heh @ nullboy, just checked out the screencap [21:15] nice [21:15] very nice [21:15] Action: aceofspades19 needs more slack [21:15] :p [21:16] nullboy: very cool:) [21:16] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.221.44.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] slashdot really over did april fools day today [21:16] ? [21:16] what all was on there? [21:16] i was just looking at /. [21:17] ms asks for bailout [21:17] there was like 10 april fools day jokes [21:17] lol [21:17] it starts to not be funny any more [21:18] /. used to handle 4/1 well, with one good story that was always almost beleivable, what happened this year is rediculous [21:18] yeah, i will be glad when tomarrow gets here [21:18] umm /. has to compete with digg :D [21:18] twolf: I know, none of those stories are believable [21:18] http://www.theonion.com/content/index [21:18] Pig_Pen: I _hate_ digg [21:19] oh wait, nothing is different [21:19] i hate digg even more [21:19] Action: thrice` hates ./ even more [21:19] digg is worse the slashdot by a lot [21:19] Google went all out. [21:19] They even have a joke on their mobile site. [21:19] Which dovetails with the one on their main site. [21:20] CADIE? [21:20] Yeah. [21:20] I've never been intrigued by slashdot stories [21:20] I was never big on slashdot [21:20] And that's also spread in gmail and google apps [21:21] i mostly like the funny comments at /. [21:22] that's the best part of digg [21:22] I've been reading Ars more than /. lately. [21:22] anyone here on redit? [21:22] I think tuxmachines is about all I read for news tech news :) [21:22] digg has too much noise in the "signal to noise" ratio [21:22] Pig_Pen: agreed [21:22] Ars is pretty good [21:23] anyone know how to get lm_sensors to work? [21:23] demetrius6 (n=demetriu@dsl-209-143-5-82.sandcreektelco.com) joined ##slackware. [21:23] or if its like not compatible with my mobo er somethin lol [21:23] sensors_detect [21:23] Pig_Pen: i know that [21:23] already did [21:23] it finds sensors too [21:23] then you know as much as i do :D [21:23] did you modprobe the drivers? [21:24] oops that too modprobe [21:24] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-100.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] but when i try to use sensors... it says no sensors found [21:24] look in hwmon in the kernel modules [21:25] ya tried modprobe coretemp and it returns FATAL: Error inserting coretemp (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/kernel/drivers/hwmon/coretemp.ko): No such device [21:25] all i want is cpu temps lol [21:25] kernel/drivers/hwmon [21:25] demetrius6 (n=demetriu@dsl-209-143-5-82.sandcreektelco.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:25] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-65019f2f8376ccb6) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:25] hi Pig_Pen - I found my books but they are a bit dated - where do memorysticks mount? [21:25] ramdisk? [21:26] i never used it but when building a kernel i always see the feature for mounting a virtual disk in ram, called ramdisk [21:27] no - i see something called udev that apairently mounts sticks when you plug in - but where does it put them? [21:27] gem_cat: /dev [21:27] hotplug ram? [21:27] udev is the superior to hotplug [21:27] :D [21:27] gem_cat: /media/someplace usually [21:27] mogunus (n=chatzill@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] i mean plugging in ram while the PC is up & running a booted system [21:28] my servers can hotswap pci hards [21:28] I knew of some servers with hotswap cpus [21:28] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] I believe [21:28] is there any other cpu temp sensors i can use? this is retarded. modprobe for my coretmp.ko, even with a direct path, it just says module not found grr [21:28] cards* [21:28] modprobe thermal [21:29] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] i never plug anything in hot except for removable drives, everything else is just to scarry [21:29] btw you dont need the ko [21:29] i know [21:29] Shuren (n=Devilman@host101-62-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:29] yeah, I do remember it also had hardware raid 5 hot swap [21:29] ok modprobe thermal worked but sensors still doesnt work and i ran sensors-detect again too :P [21:30] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [21:31] nille_ (i=1000@c-ae63e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [21:31] meet the new boss, same as the old boss [21:31] the who fucking rocks, I saw them live in 06 [21:31] thermal puts thermal in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone [21:31] pete townsend was jumping around like a 20 year old [21:32] he must be in his 50s now [21:32] its a acpi thing [21:32] yeah i saw them at woodstock (: [21:32] i am still confused - are you telling me I have to find a floppy to move files to linux? [21:32] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:32] Pig_Pen: I think he's like 60 [21:33] Action: gem_cat used to be 60 but got over it [21:33] i would love to be rich, but i really really dont want to be famous, i would rather be an unknown that way i can mingle with the regular folks [21:34] same here.... but it would be awesome to be a rock star [21:34] you would never be left alone when going out in public like grocery shopping or whatever else [21:35] people would be pestering you for an autograph, or to have their photo taken with you, & etc [21:35] well... there's always the option of doing your show like Maynard James Keenan/Alice Cooper/Marilyn Manson, dress up in crazy stage clothes [21:36] bhodgins: ok.....so how do i use it? [21:36] so people wouldn't really know what you look like normally [21:36] KISS... nobody knew what they really looked like until the 80s or whatever when they did that thing on MTV [21:37] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:37] Q. how do you get to Carnegie Hall? A. practise man, practice [21:38] hehe, or be really liked by a rich jew [21:38] certainly not an anti-semetic comment either [21:38] whats normal cpu temp on an lenovo t60 with an T2400 @ 1.83GHz ? i think mine doesn't cool to good anymore :( [21:39] no offense taken [21:39] nite [21:39] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-100.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Vanishes with a small pop" [21:39] mine is 120 F' dual core intel (space heater) [21:40] and thas what in C? [21:40] maybe 44 [21:40] 44 or 43 C [21:40] not good [21:40] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [21:40] temperature: 77 C [21:41] mine is not doing anything other than sitting here in IRC with KDE in the background [21:41] nille_: the sensors aren't always accurate [21:41] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:41] nille_: when you put your hand near the exhaust vent is it very hot? [21:41] well it feels like it is hotter now then before [21:42] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [21:42] i guess i will open the laptop and look at the fan [21:43] can the fan get missplaced by smal chocks? [21:43] nille_: my t60 with a different cpu reads at 50C but it doesn't feel hot and it has never had any stability issues, I doubt it is really that hot [21:43] nille_: place a thermometer at the exhaust vent first [21:43] good idea [21:44] Action: berkough still has a working t20 [21:44] best laptops ever [21:44] Gore_Vidal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] but it feels slower so i guess i need to look at it anyways and when i compile things it gets evan hotter [21:45] s/even/evan [21:45] not that series specifically, thinkpads in general imo [21:45] fan could be clogged with dust [21:45] kino is pretty cool [21:45] Action: SM177Y is loving rainbow tables :D [21:45] Action: phrag uses his x40 everyday [21:46] well it looks clean when i look at it from the outside [21:46] what are you doing with rainbow tables? [21:46] spec wise it doesn't touch modern laptops, but it's solid as a rock and loves slack =) [21:46] nille, get a can of that compressed air in your local PC shop and blow out the dust in the CPU fan and cooling block fins [21:46] nullboy: :P [21:46] craxin stuff ? [21:46] nullboy: the only thing they are for :P lol [21:46] heh [21:47] had a friend tell me over the weekend he was setting up a laptop for a pirate wifi rig.... should be interesting [21:47] Pig_Pen well it looks as clean as new as far as i can see [21:47] talking about how much he loves rainbow tables [21:47] i need to generate some bigger ones tho. im thinkin about tryin to generate em on my ps3. get some real use outta that ownage cpu :P lol [21:47] SM177Y: for pen testing purposes only i assume? [21:47] not when you open it [21:47] i bet there is some dust inside where you cant see from the outside [21:47] thats why i will open it up tomorrow [21:48] phrag: of course ;) [21:48] Action: nille_ grrr damn cats :P [21:48] cathair is not good inside a PC [21:48] linux ran sweet on my ps3, though i rarely found multi-thread apps supporting the architecture to truely test it's power [21:48] Action: berkough doesn't like cats, he is a dog person, but would love to have an "Austin Powers" cat [21:48] i have two cats [21:49] me 2 [21:49] you should se my desktop once a year ;) [21:49] i want a mini doberman [21:49] phrag: since there is no video drivers, i use the vid memory as swap space :P its quite faster than reading off the hd [21:49] i did rack up a hella lot of work units on the grid =) [21:49] at least for the first 256 mb of swapping [21:49] mini doberman? [21:49] Pig_Pen: mini dobbies are awesome [21:49] SM177Y: haha, i like it [21:49] a teeny tiny dog to keep my cats busy [21:49] lol [21:50] lol [21:50] well i want an akita [21:50] phrag: might as well. the memory isnt being used for anything else. not without drivers. :( [21:50] akitas are cool [21:50] SM177Y: i used mine to cure cancer and such like! =) [21:50] Pig_Pen: you can get min dobermans? [21:50] phrag: what os's have u ran on ur ps3? [21:50] Great Dane... Napoleon had one, that's all I have to say [21:50] lol FOH is decent :P [21:51] SM177Y: i had to sell it for food... but i ran yellowdog on it [21:51] being a student sucks =P [21:51] yeah an akita and my 2 cats that would be an sight [21:51] i won it though, so wasn't a huge loss =) [21:51] phrag: ya i was first running opensuse on it but then later on i installed yellowdog which is what i have on it now. im curious to try slackintosh on it :P [21:52] i have not tried to get a minni doberman, but i seen them around town, i dont think they will be cheap, they are a hot item [21:52] sirboderafael (i=1000@189.14.243.223) joined ##slackware. [21:52] ppc slackware, what more could u ask for :) [21:52] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:52] an ps3 :) [21:52] SM177Y: i never got to compiling anything worthwhile on it though, which is a shame [21:53] phrag: compiling is decent...if you can get it to fully utilize all the cores [21:53] i've always wondered if I could use my ps3 as a distcc point [21:55] thrice`: is this a good idea with only 256MB of RAM? [21:55] thrice': distcc supports different operating systems and processors but would that include seperate architectures? ps3 is PPC [21:56] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] PiterPunk: probably woulnt need much ram. compiling is done mainly on the cpu. and u wouldnt need an xserver so that cuts ur ram usage in half :P [21:57] yes, but 8 cores :) make -j19 with my laptop too :) [21:57] When I log in using twm, xmms plays to ALSA fine. When I log in using kde, xmms on ALSA says it Couldn't open audio, but xmms on OSS plays fine [21:58] kde uses arts [21:58] doesnt it? [21:58] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-4969858a2c7b86a8) left irc: [21:58] no processes shown by ps ax|grep arts [21:58] kde3 does, kde4 does not [21:58] thats what i was thinking an arts conflict [21:58] pi31415: try "lsof" [21:58] dude. pi: theres another way to do it [21:58] thrice': screw it just use make -j :P [21:58] pgrep arts :) [21:59] lsof shows that nothing has /dev/dsp open [21:59] pgrep also helps with kill [21:59] no, pkill is for kill :) [21:59] arts might be blocking it or something [21:59] pi31415: I don't even have a /dev/dsp here. should be /dev/snd/* [22:00] yu can still use it [22:00] nothing shown by lsod | grep -e dsp -e snd [22:00] that's lsof [22:00] thrice`: that might depend on the sound card you have [22:01] ctrl+alt+esc ;) [22:01] oh, i got a quick question guys. so i can tunnel through ssh on my ps3 from my laptop. but i cant seem to tunnel through my desktop. i set the options in my /etc/ssh/sshd_config and on the client also. i can ssh in, just cant tunnel through. my laptop is running openbsd but i dont think thats a problem as i can tunnel through my ps3 which has yellowdog on it :S [22:02] x11vnc? [22:02] ** WARNING **: alsa_get_mixer(): Attaching to mixer hw:0 failed: No such file or directory [22:02] the client and server are slightly different versions of openssh but like barely like OpenSSH_5.1p1 and OpenSSH_5.0 or something. its very trivial difference [22:02] i wouldnt think that would matter tho either [22:03] it is a permission issue.. chmod a+w /dev/snd/* makes it work [22:03] not sure why it worked differently under twm [22:03] dhabyx_ (n=dhabyx@67.230.31.196) joined ##slackware. [22:04] who got fooled today? [22:05] or yesterday depending on where you at [22:05] I was surprised how different the terminal looked in KDE on this machine, until I realized that on my other machine, KDE was defaulting to xfce-terminal, but on here it is defaulting to konsole. [22:06] maybe this is an easier question :P this never happened to me b4 on any other machine, but once i start an x server, if i try to switch between tty's its just locks up lol. but if i log out/close the session, i still get dropped back to my terminal and i can start x again and so on. [22:07] as long as an x server is not running, i can swap between tty's. once one is started, attempting to just locks my comp up :P [22:08] and i think i got my video card workin better now :P glxgears>11,000 XD [22:11] i notice that aumix skips the GUI in kde, but it shows a GUI under twm [22:12] seamonkey wants me to put v 1.15 here. this is a fresh install of slack 12.2, so should i removepkg seamonkey before i run the install? [22:14] does anyone here actually use seamonkey? [22:14] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [22:14] i asked a simple question [22:14] ah, aumix needs permissions to /dev/mixer [22:15] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:15] berkough: not me :P [22:15] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:15] does anyone use bitchx anymore? [22:15] i do [22:15] t0f: it wasn't very clear. Are you upgrading or downgrading? [22:15] linux!2.6.27.19-3.2-pae bitchx-1.1-final! - prevail[0123a] (orb) [22:16] i don't, but i remember it [22:16] i do :P [22:16] Nick change: dhabyx_ -> dhabyx [22:16] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [22:16] nullboy: up, 1.13 -> 1.15 [22:16] because I'm lazy I always do a full install, but seamonkey is one of the first things I remove when I go through my customizing phase [22:16] t0f: just upgradepkg then [22:16] ananke: i'm not surprised :D :P [22:16] ok thanks [22:16] t0f : use the seamonkey package from the slackware /patches [22:17] ananke, how have you been? :) [22:17] ah yeah, i forgot about that ananke [22:17] TwinReverb : busy. spending money. [22:17] ananke, cool, can i help? :) [22:17] t0f: you should probably upgrade anything in patches/ http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/ [22:18] somehow in one month i spent more than usual - got tickets to europe, new camera, and a new car [22:18] those are mostly security and severe bug patches [22:20] speaking of which, I'm so glad that slackpkg made it into the main tree [22:20] i think i'll do it some other day in that case, as a dialup and having already downloaded the 14 meg one from mozilla :| [22:21] t0f: you're on dialup? [22:21] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:21] network of champions [22:21] lol [22:21] +MRR: 28800 [22:21] CONNECT 45333/ARQ [22:21] heh [22:21] it's all good, I just didn't think that anyone really used dialup anymore [22:22] i have some family members who do [22:22] a lot of people do [22:22] because they do not want to pay broadband prices [22:22] for chatting speed doesn't matter much [22:22] a lot people in rural areas have no other choice [22:22] my boss is stuck with dialup [22:23] ananke: what kind of car? [22:23] there is always satellite, but that's expensive as all hell [22:23] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] Dominian : '07 honda crv [22:23] nice [22:23] honda ftw [22:23] Action: berkough used to own a 79 Honda Accord, all original [22:24] and this one ended up being the 'everything but the kitchen sink' trim [22:24] hehe [22:24] no, not honda ftw, more like masurati ftw [22:24] HAHA [22:24] my wife's car.. paid off.. 120,000 miles on it :) [22:24] ok... well since you put it that way [22:24] ananke, be sure to get a USB pet rock [22:24] it's "Maserati"... [22:24] TwinReverb : i'm not sure what that means [22:24] I would say Atom2 ftw then [22:25] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-153-48.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [22:25] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.221.44.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: "I'm Gone" [22:25] ananke: thinkgeek has a usb 'pet rock' [22:25] wow microsoft says it's to big to fail [22:25] ananke, don't you remember the pet rocks? [22:25] since it owns most of the os market [22:25] i remember the pet rocks, didn't know they had usb ones now [22:25] yes they do [22:25] must feel good to be on top [22:26] speaking of usb, this crv came with a pcmcia slot, which can be used for music storage [22:26] I know it's a joke [22:26] but I could see microsoft saying that [22:27] Dominian: got openvpn running AND my /etc/resolv.conf edited so it works well now [22:27] woot [22:27] alisonken1home: I told you I found another leecher didn't I? [22:27] the problem the last week of trying was a routing issue on the office end [22:27] ahh [22:28] Dominian: I think you mentioned the second leech [22:28] mogunus_ (n=chatzill@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] goliath probably thought he was too big to fail until david put a rock through his forehead [22:28] anyone know of any good MOO/MUD clients for linux? [22:28] alisonken1home: ahh.. [22:28] Dominian: using you as a jumping point? [22:29] berkough: trebuchet [22:29] mogunus_ (n=chatzill@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:29] pi31415: sweetness [22:31] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [22:31] hey guys [22:31] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-1d4cce76450a8ab0) joined ##slackware. [22:31] hey Cann0n [22:32] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] just cleaned out my fans [22:32] alisonken1home: hotlinking to my images [22:32] my nuts thank me. [22:33] 79C to 63C [22:33] lol [22:33] Dominian: yep - leeches [22:34] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:35] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.34.60) left irc: "Leaving..." [22:35] pi31415: ever use Spyrit? [22:36] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [22:36] Cann0n: You had fans in your pants? [22:36] berkough: haven't heard of that one yet [22:36] has liquid cooled technology gotten smaller? [22:36] http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/TBS/Spyrit-28146.shtml [22:36] doesn't look bad... Python/Qt [22:36] alisonken1home, lol, compaq presario r3000s have heat issues [22:37] I've tended to stay away from compaq's due to repeated issues with linux and their hardware [22:37] http://sourceforge.net/projects/spyrit/ [22:37] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:38] same difference, yeah [22:38] v4nelle (n=van@adsl96-127.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:38] I remember Compaq h/w quality problems prior to the merger [22:39] Compaq has always sucked [22:39] yeah it has some issues with the mmc/sd card reader and the win modem [22:39] among other things [22:39] it's a nice laptop after i slapped a slackware sticker on it [22:39] lol [22:40] Windows is a nice O/S - until you turn it on, too [22:40] those are the only problems i had really as far as linux [22:40] lol [22:41] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.183.76) joined ##slackware. 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[22:50] my upload speed to youtube is not so great [22:50] mine isn't either... I think it's youtube [22:51] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-76-254-4-199.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] opisboi (n=opis@2001:470:f0c0:0:708e:b0f4:d239:be59) left ##slackware. [22:52] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: "Changing server" [22:53] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [22:54] Gore_Vidal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Success [22:54] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [22:55] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:57] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.34.60) joined ##slackware. [22:57] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:58] yep... [23:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [23:05] Gore_Vidal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBvBuQxp5jk [23:06] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:06] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.183.76) left irc: "leaving" [23:06] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [23:08] sigh...my internet is too slow to watch that video today... [23:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-69-236-84-41.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:09] at least without a bunch of buffering [23:09] i shot it! [23:09] then i barfed [23:09] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [23:10] Is that you in the back nullboy? [23:10] yeah [23:10] cool [23:10] wow, nice [23:10] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.183.76) joined ##slackware. [23:10] nullboy, but did you barf in the loop? [23:11] nope i lasted for two more of those death spirals then i barfed. the loop was nice [23:12] nullboy, this you -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e9RpQKRl-o ? [23:12] (a little nasty...) [23:12] so don't click if your lame [23:12] omfg [23:12] hahahha [23:13] lol [23:13] i've seen that one [23:13] negative g barfing is fun! [23:14] i had a parachute on and brought some freezer bags [23:15] it's the rules for those kinds of flights [23:15] did you make it into the bag? [23:15] totally i was fine [23:15] mentally i was all good but my body was barfing [23:15] right [23:16] like, I risked my life with a daredevil and his plane and all i got was this lousy bag of vomit [23:16] nullboy, next time just make sure you have nothing to barf up [23:16] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:17] i had some toast and a little fizzy water, the pilot is used to it...he ate a full breakfast [23:17] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:17] lol [23:17] yea...i kinda expect that [23:17] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:18] LMFAQ [23:18] Cann0n: the zero-g barf lady? [23:18] I often laugh at frequently asked questions. [23:19] though i don't see the use of a parachute...those planes are not going to break and they got crazy lift, just a bit unstable..i don't see what you could do short of getting a fire that would make you want to bail [23:19] nullboy, yeah lol [23:19] edman007: FAA says we have to and we also had to wear 5 points + headsets to he can "warn" me if something breaks...i call BS there is no way either of us would be getting out of that can [23:20] not a chance [23:20] Does someone want to talk me through a Samba thing quickly? [23:20] ahh, FAA, now it all makes sense [23:20] haha [23:20] i wanna fly [23:20] erisco: My computer -> Tools -> Map network drive .. done! ;) [23:20] I flew once. [23:20] Cann0n, jump off your roof [23:20] you hear that space can't have laws? [23:20] In a small engine plane. [23:21] Cann0n: but that little area of air called the atmosphere that sits between us and space does [23:21] i want to build an ultra light or gyroheli [23:21] Yes Cann0n [23:21] i want my private license [23:21] i watched an ultralight ditch into the ocean last month [23:21] Cost like 7k. [23:22] eviljames: you sure? I'm asked for a password (idk why) when trying to "smbmount \\\\BASEMENTMONSTER\\SharedDocs /mnt/windows" and after entering hte password nothing happens. I can try your tip though. =D [23:22] ive fly to amsterdam if i had an ultralight [23:22] Cann0n: don't you live in canada? [23:22] lol [23:22] no, florida [23:22] lol [23:22] erisco: You get no response at all? What if you -v to increase verbosity? [23:22] Action: eviljames is a canuck [23:22] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] my sister was born in canada [23:23] i'm going to post the video of a tandem skydive i did next [23:23] Where did you do this at nullboy? [23:23] i want to do that too [23:24] i was thinking of an even better thrill... hang gliding [23:24] but thats me. [23:24] Action: acidchild is installing archlinux [23:24] mwamama [23:24] hamamam [23:25] mrselfpwn: the skydive i did near Vandenberg AFB and the aerobatic flight was a friend of mine we did that out of santa paula near ventura [23:25] which is the sport where they wear the wing suit and glide down a mountain about 3 feet from the surface? [23:25] i see nullboy [23:25] What should I use for a command? eviljames [23:25] acidchild: heathen. Didn't you hear they dropped i686 support?! [23:25] erisco: use the same smbmount, but add -v [23:25] (doh) [23:25] i was going too quickly =p [23:25] heh [23:25] mrselfpwn: if you lived in california i know two people who are flight instructors, they would certify you [23:25] eviljames: i dunno, i had a debian or archlinux disk to go for [23:26] so i went for arch but i installed it on a new rapter disk [23:26] boots so damn quick [23:26] nice [23:26] I'm east coast. [23:26] nice indeed. [23:26] 10,000RPM HD [23:26] =D [23:26] acidchild: I built a video artist at work a dope machine with 2x15K RAID1 as his C:\ (yes, vista busines ftL) [23:27] 1.21 gigaspins [23:27] agreed. ftL [23:27] acidchild: Those were 80G, his storage drive is 2x10K 500GB RAID1 [23:27] Plus, it was a nehalem w/ 12GB of ram [23:27] sICK. [23:27] eviljames: its a 80gb one i think [23:27] i got 2 500GB standard ones [23:28] ready eviljames? http://pastebin.ca/1379598 [23:28] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [23:28] Dominian: ping [23:28] =) [23:28] acidchild: doesn't fix it.. I'm still bored [23:28] :) [23:28] haha [23:28] no gtalk on my eeepc [23:28] That's not my IP [23:28] agentc0re: ping [23:28] my achievement from last night.. capped my week I think.. [23:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:28] Weird0ne (n=rogue@cpe-98-150-31-77.bak.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:28] hehehe [23:28] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:29] Dominian, get lucky? [23:29] well once the server move starts happening.. I'll be busy then [23:29] Cann0n: uhhh no.. not exactly [23:29] Cann0n: I made some image leechers pay for their linking [23:29] http://www.realtimefurniture.ca/milan-platform-p-625.html?osCsid=f22e9f6eb12a4a1685cda280adeb83f5 [23:29] really like that bed [23:29] erisco: How is samba authenticating users? Did you add the user on the remote machine with smbpasswd? Also, why are you connecting as root? [23:29] and they are still paying for it [23:29] shame mattresses are so damn expensive [23:29] oh.... oh even better than dealing with lady drama. [23:29] 2k on a bed is not very justifyable. [23:29] acidchild: aye.. matresses are more expensive than anything [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:30] Dominian: worth it though i guess, i've been destroying my back for a year on a futon [23:30] What's funny is that mattresses are ~65% markup [23:30] The more expensive the mattress, the higher the profit margin. [23:30] should i go to these 'ware house sales' for a mattress? [23:30] yep [23:30] ive only made sexy time on a mattress two times [23:30] whats the most prominent language to create mobile-device(PDA/Smartphone) apps? [23:30] tenlet: java. [23:30] Cann0n: i broke mine within 3 weeks :-( [23:30] C#? [23:30] tenlet: depends on the target [23:30] C# for windows mobile ? [23:30] could be simply .net too [23:30] antler: pong [23:31] .NET isnt a language ? [23:31] eviljames: (I noticed root after pastebin, not logged in as user) I can work on those things. thanks =) I'll let you know if i dig myself deeper but i think your suggestions will guide me home. Thanks. [23:31] tenlet: Not if you want to target the blackberry or iPhone. [23:31] erisco: Good luck! :D [23:31] agentc0re: http://data.linux64packages.net:8080/bluewhite64-12.2/desktop/vlc/0.9.8a/ <-- heh didn't work on my machine :P [23:31] sun java for iphone/blackberry, C# for windows mobile devices? [23:31] antler: I'm doing better. just did a build that didn't fail on ffmpeg or any other stuff. it, just.. quit. [23:31] acidchild, im just a drifter. been on couches or futon since around the time i started linux [23:31] antler: I have no idea why it quit. [23:31] tenlet: Blackberry, Java. iPhone, dunno. :D [23:32] eviljames.. Java from SUN right? [23:32] Action: agentc0re needs more beer [23:32] Cann0n: sucks eh? i've been there. [23:32] tenlet: Essentially, developing for mobile is a huge moving target. [23:32] charle97: i'm changing that soon =) [23:32] because C# is basically java [23:32] Cann0n* [23:32] eviljames: Why? wanted to try it out and am learning C# at the moment [23:32] acidchild, it's alright. im used to it [23:32] tenlet: Well, yeah, but Sun doesn't really own java any more... [23:33] tenlet: Just that there are a lot of platforms, none of them are close to a 'standard', each has it's own idiosyncracies, and if you want to truly develop on mobile it seems you have to keep a bunch of separate code bases. [23:33] agentc0re: it seems worse that it just quits [23:33] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [23:33] eviljames: Developing for Windows Mobile is a big platform [23:33] likewise with sun java for blackberry [23:33] Dominian: having to install all the packages for KDE. [23:33] but i was wondering, since C# is from ms, is that prevelant for WM development [23:34] heh [23:34] For Windows Mobile, probably. [23:34] Dominian: thought it would be a good idea to make sure i have everything i need [23:34] =) [23:34] aye [23:34] But I wouldn't know, I don't develop for windows anything. [23:34] seems like a good market to develop towards [23:34] Dominian: downloaded soo much crap lol [23:34] Nick change: p3biz -> marchonrome [23:34] yeah but where you are that shouldn't be an issue hehe [23:35] i'm sure i will :-P [23:36] agentc0re, if you got beer you better start sharing... [23:36] yea indeed [23:36] wth [23:36] beer plz. [23:36] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "e o maradona tb D:" [23:37] edman007: I just made my wife drink some Guinness Extra Stout. Priceless look on her face. [23:38] agentc0re: If you had forced her to finish it she'd be a guiness fan by now. [23:38] extra stout is the shit [23:38] gimme [23:38] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-153-48.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:38] my favorite in the bottle [23:38] Gore_Vidal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:38] draught when I'm out at a bar [23:38] Guinness is good :) [23:38] s/good/god/ [23:38] fair enough [23:38] The family who owns Guiness is in trouble though. [23:38] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] why [23:38] yea, its not free [23:39] how so? [23:39] lol [23:39] Apparently someone dumped 350,000 tires on their lawn, and now the city is suing them to clean it up. [23:39] I tried making a half/half with extra stout and harp, but it instantly mixed together. [23:39] I don't think you can use extra stout for half/half. [23:39] haha, that's nasty, it's not an irish car bomb [23:39] i drank a guiness once... then a realized that it was a bud light with 5 or 6 cigarette butts in it [23:39] even then you gotta drink that shit down fast or it currdles [23:40] guiness is good off draft [23:40] lol @ Cann0n... I've had whiskey with cigarette ashes in it, was pretty drunk though [23:40] i like irish car bombs now [23:40] didn't realize it until after the fact [23:40] Action: agentc0re gives Cann0n a Smirnoff Ice [23:40] I'm sure you'd like that. [23:40] lol [23:40] ive gotten drunk on them too [23:41] hold on, let me bust out the Zima [23:41] Wahoo! zima in the house for Cann0n! [23:41] Action: berkough gives a Zima to all the panzies in chat [23:41] im working on bloody mary #2 right now [23:41] BP{k}: What do you got for Cann0n? [23:41] ... [23:41] Seriously? [23:41] yeah [23:41] ever have one of these days: http://www.break.com/index/fired-employee-destroys-office.html [23:41] You mean, V8 on the rocks? ;) [23:41] its like, 30% rum [23:42] i dont drink like i used to [23:42] Cann0n: Rum flavoring doesn't count. [23:42] i used to drink bacardi 151 like it was apple juice [23:42] Cann0n: Me either. [23:42] Cann0n: ha ha. [23:43] <--Cuervo [23:43] Cann0n: I had long hair for a long time. like, down past my chest long. [23:43] Cann0n: Then there was a night that included a bottle of 151, and a hair buzzer. [23:43] Cann0n: fill in the blanks (I couldn't when I woke up) [23:43] no shit. when i was in college up until last year i was killing a bottle a week just on myself [23:43] lol [23:44] My wife just pronouced that, Cu-where-vo. HAHA [23:44] i woke up on the roof of a trailer home once [23:44] pronounced [23:44] Nick change: marchonrome -> pebiz [23:44] i haven't had anything to drink in like 6 months :( [23:45] Nick change: pebiz -> p3biz [23:45] i wish i could go 6 months without a drink. i'd probably start losing a lot more weight than i am [23:45] id rather smoke some sweet sensimilla [23:45] I think I'm going to have myself some sailor jerry's & coke right now. [23:46] Sailor Jerry? That sounds so gay. :P [23:46] Anyone bored enough here to help me with some homework? :) It's a little algorithm puzzle :) [23:46] edman007: Trying to stop? [23:46] some diggity dank ass shit > booze [23:47] agentc0re: It's hardcore rum. Not 151, but it does come with wicked fake tattoos. [23:47] Cann0n: That delivery is on its way to my house atm. Vancouver ftW++! [23:47] agentc0re, no...just really busy and i don't really know people that go out drinking [23:47] agentc0re, its thailer jerry-kins [23:47] eviljames: Sweet, wicked fake tattoos! [23:48] such being broke. im hitting resin to stay afloat [23:48] Cann0n: i hear that. I scraped pipes last night. [23:48] here you go: http://www.break.com/index/office-worker-meltdown-second-angle.html [23:48] that guy gets pwned at the end lol [23:48] Action: edman007 clicks [23:49] you can take high proof alcohol and wash your pipe out, then pour the fluids on a ceramic plate and light it. [23:49] 90%+ rubbing alcohol is best [23:49] wtf [23:49] this is a weird question i know, but, does anyone else here turn off swap and run RAM only? it totally bugs me when conky shows swap usage so i started using swapoff [23:49] I don't [23:49] nille_ (i=1000@c-ae63e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:49] unless I have like 4 GB of ram or something.. [23:49] stitchman: Just comment out the line for swapon in /etc/rc.d [23:49] stitchman: i don't have a swap partition [23:50] eviljames, just make sure you burn off the wetness before you scrap it [23:50] eviljames i did add 'swapoff /dev/hda1' to rc.local, i guess i could take it one step up the line [23:51] Cann0n: I keep a bottle of green dragon handy, just in case, as well. [23:51] the ratio is about 1 bowl per 10 bowls as far as potency over quantity [23:51] Cann0n: but green dragon takes forever to kick in, and is crazy strong. [23:51] i meant glass bowls [23:52] Dominian, are you having a bad day? [23:52] Cann0n: Green dragon = liquid thc. :D [23:52] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:52] agentc0re: i think i'm going back to slackwarepaehighmemory. this is just too much :| [23:52] edman007: nah [23:52] never did acid [23:52] edman007: ran across those [23:53] is that a taser at the end? [23:53] lol [23:53] herbage is all that ill touch. [23:53] and i like how the girl in the other one claims its a computer virus... [23:54] Cann0n: no, I mean it literally. Mix 4-8ml of green dragon with sprite and it's like eating a bag of brownies. [23:54] oh i learned that when ratio = ratio you have a proportion today [23:54] oh its that shit cooked up with herbage [23:54] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:54] Cann0n: take some herbage, immerse it in high-proof alcohol (everclear/moonshine is best), [23:55] i never cook with it. i have before, but i like it in the smoke from the best [23:55] Cann0n: Let it sit in a dark corner of a cupboard for a week-3weeks, strain it and keep the green liquid. Magical stuff. [23:55] Howcome Samba tries to connect to a remote server when I try to connect to a computer on my lan? "timeout connecting to 72.215.225.10:445 [23:55] " is the result of "smbtree" [23:55] erisco: That is a good question. [23:55] thats it? [23:55] just soak a nug in booze? [23:55] Cann0n: That's what green dragon is, my man. It's awesome. 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[23:57] edman007: added 4 hard drives to my LVM :) [23:57] i'm over here trying to do Samba and you kids are talking about lSD...damn nice =) [23:57] that was a shit load of people logged off and then back on again [23:57] ive eaten brownies [23:58] thumbs, yay [23:58] edman007: almost 2 TB [23:58] erisco: ahh, possbly. Good luck with it, note: I've never had samba work across the internet, only lan. [23:58] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:58] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [23:58] hax0r1337 (n=hax0r@c-71-201-7-44.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] eviljames: no, i burn strictly jays. no bongs, no pipes, none of that. [23:58] eviljames: This is lan, it's trying to connect me across the internet. O.o I really think i'll get it tomorrow. [23:59] erisco: interesting. ask me tomorrow if I'm around, I'll help where ICan :D [23:59] thanks, night [23:59] antler: ah, as Cann0n mentioned, I too enjoy the act of smoking in that way. [23:59] WB other me! [00:00] --- Thu Apr 2 2009