[00:00] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.158.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:03] Nick change: riza -> risah [00:09] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.94) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:11] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.187) joined ##slackware. [00:13] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [00:17] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-88.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:21] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [00:24] is a README file required for slackbuild.org? [00:24] i have nothing special to say [00:24] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:24] --mandir isn't that a configure flag? [00:24] it is [00:25] i made it work though& was some weird way the shell was interpreting the line breaks in my script [00:25] /etc/man.conf is where the directories actually are [00:25] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [00:26] that is how man knows where to look :p [00:26] I take it back..... [00:26] in slackware there is an conf in etc..... [00:26] but at the moment I don't know the name of it [00:27] yeah, just because you compile something, the mandb thing will not automaticly find it... [00:27] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [00:27] gniks: must tell it [00:27] well it does because there is a "default" setting [00:27] mandb needs to know where to look, so when you run 'update-mandb' [00:28] as root [00:28] which is another thing that you might be missing (guess) [00:28] naw [00:28] thats not it [00:29] im talking about the configure script and where it will tell make to throw the man pages [00:29] it wasn't honoring the flag [00:29] Nick change: risah -> miss [00:29] Nick change: miss -> miss_riss [00:29] in Slackware theres no /etc/man.conf its /usr/lib/man.conf [00:30] :p [00:30] and mandir doesnt always work. its a bug but due to the fact that this option doesnt work with old versions of autoconf some upstream projects choose not to fix [00:30] i believe thats everywhere, but i never remember where that file is [00:31] it works, it was my own fault [00:31] at least with this configure script it works [00:31] oh ok [00:31] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 612 seconds [00:31] rabbitear: are you using Slackware? [00:32] cause the advise you give doesnt apply to it.. [00:32] /etc/man.conf, update-mandb wtf. either your on debian or something or crack [00:34] i think he just got confused, i can never remember where that file is either [00:34] but i only need to touch it, like once every 2 years [00:34] sahko: so you don't need update-mandb? [00:34] still, mandb? [00:34] sahko: ever? [00:34] rabbitear: hell no [00:34] k did not know thx [00:35] wtf are you using? [00:35] sahko: I got slackboxes as servers, but use arch alot too, and ubuntu on one machine, pleasse don't kill me [00:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY [00:37] sahko: there are more then one man package you know [00:37] sahko: its not about debian that uses mandb ... even lfs uses mandb ... [00:37] no, theres a man and mandb package [00:38] ya [00:38] not 2 man packages [00:38] you just wanna argue [00:39] all --mandir does is put the man page there anyway [00:39] no, i just like being pricise when i can. it whats seperates us from people [00:39] us animals [00:39] yes sir [00:40] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [00:40] but the point beond that, is that --mandir does nothing but copy the 'man page' into a directory [00:40] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:40] I only talked about update-mandb (I know I was wrong by now) because he mentions pos [00:41] which I assumed he was talking about apropos [00:41] my bad! [00:41] gundam (~gundam@89.202.223.8) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:41] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [00:42] as long as it worked for gniks.. [00:42] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [00:43] he's not saying anything, so probly [00:44] arumania1 (~arumaniac@a89-152-31-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:44] hi all [00:44] yaya building shadow with PAM support :P [00:44] so much fun! [00:44] probably should build glibc first :\ [00:44] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] greetings [00:45] is possible to use msntest to talk ? if not, tell me please a msn-client to use without X [00:45] hello arumania1 and The-Croupier [00:45] finch [00:46] thanks :) [00:47] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:47] finch comes with some default app ? [00:48] pidgin [00:48] yeah its part of Slackware, you should have it installed [00:49] gniks: pidgin ;) is on x [00:49] isnt it? [00:49] nop.. i made a "minimum-install" ( i am out of space ) :-P [00:49] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:49] the package is pidgin The-Croupier ;) [00:49] gammu is awesome [00:49] my phone isn't syncing but it's still awesome :P [00:49] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:50] shell-fu (~shell-fu@99.30.144.105) joined ##slackware. [00:50] finch is really good IMO [00:50] at least I can identify it over /dev/ttyACM0 [00:50] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:52] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:53] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [00:53] shell-fu (~shell-fu@99.30.144.105) left irc: Client Quit [00:53] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:54] am the libstdc++ comes with what package? I need it to compile wireshark [00:54] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [00:56] please, can someone explain to me this syslog, i wasnt home at that time: http://pastebin.com/5C21HaxB [00:57] did someone constantly tried to login to my box? [00:57] looks that way [00:58] i need to re modify sshd then.. this is annoying [00:58] pupit: you put a box online, and like less then 30 minutes lots of the time, you get lots of logging in [00:58] pupit, do you have that setup for auto-login? [00:58] arumania1: cxxlibs [00:58] pupit: I use asymetric keys only [00:58] popl: thanks [00:58] arumania1: had to doublecheck :) [00:58] shonudo: nope, this is some "wiseguy" retry [00:59] hmmm... that's unfortunate [00:59] it happens [00:59] yeah, it does [00:59] all the time actually [00:59] seriously. if you have access to your router logs you should watch them sometime [00:59] i guess i need to block ip for half an hour after 3 retries, my box locks up... [01:00] i cant find ssh log [01:00] usually syslog [01:00] apf/bfd provide a nice lil solution to tha tproblem :) [01:00] popl: from gcc-g++ right? [01:01] you could also change the ssh port to 2222 or something else [01:01] read /etc/ssh/sshd_config ... [01:01] arumania1: no, the package is called cxxlibs [01:01] rabbitear: yes :) reconfigure time :) [01:01] just set iptables to drop packets from the ip if it tries to connect multiple times [01:02] popl: thanks [01:02] cxxlibs in 32bit is different than th stdc++ in gcc-g++ [01:02] thanks everyone [01:02] 64bit is the same [01:02] there's a project that does that automaticly, but I forgot what its called [01:02] popl: no cxxlibs at /cdrom/slacware/l/* [01:02] its in a/ not l/ [01:02] yep [01:02] ok thank you [01:03] I used public-private key, so haven't been bothering with that [01:03] rabbitear: better for now to change it manually so i could learn and know [01:03] but that exists only for compatibility reasons afaik [01:03] pupit: *nods* [01:04] pupit: its not that tough [01:04] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [01:04] i know i know :) [01:04] oh and i have another type of error [01:05] your welcome [01:07] after this error, my X goes off, and after logging in again, mice and keyboard doesnt respond so i have to reboot manually http://pastebin.com/ZRNvgZrx [01:08] I never seen NOUSER all the time [01:08] i have, its a brute force attack :P [01:08] rabbitear: heh, you want some /httpd log ? :) [01:08] a stupid one, but still one none the less [01:08] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:08] gniks: its not a good one [01:08] rabbitear: all those tries.. [01:09] where to change bash location path? in other words (( if I am in /var/log/packages )) bash console be root@packages an not root@/var/log/packages [01:10] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:10] i forgot the @host: hehe [01:10] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] rabbitear: annoying too. gotta edit httpd too http://pastebin.com/HyUzEMsG [01:12] on my previous syslog pastebin above, i think my hald stops working at some point, anyone seen it? [01:12] yeah, but thats like a normal attack or looking, the sshd with NOUSER all the time is retarded [01:12] "I have been hiding dave" [01:12] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [01:13] lord_darwin (~lord_darw@dynamic-66-243-242-91.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:13] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] rabbitear: it is, so, i added file phpmyadmin with my blogspot.com account :P [01:14] i know pidgin..i didnt know it would work without x though [01:14] pupit: and, my blogspot is tracked so its fun to see if i have same ip address visits and attacks :) [01:14] The-Croupier: since years ago.... there'es been a console 'theme 'plugin [01:15] lol im writing to myself ... [01:15] tired, will get a second wind soon [01:15] yugiohjcj (~yugiohjcj@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-209-13.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:16] yugiohjcj (~yugiohjcj@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-209-13.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:16] yes it is working The-Croupier but is quiet arcaic .. must be configured and to use must be killed so the add-account dialog disapear hehe [01:17] man finch # is quite helpful [01:17] yugiohjcj (~yugiohjcj@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-209-13.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] alt+c to close an arbitrary window / alt + q to quit [01:18] the nice thing about finch is that you can connect to it from anywhere with screen / tmux + ssh [01:18] trhodes: cool [01:18] Hello, I am on Slackware 13.1 and I use KDE. I have a blueman icon in the tray which come automatically without I tell him to come in my tray. Who does this? [01:18] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-88.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [01:19] arumania1: i see... ;) [01:19] yugiohjcj: you [01:19] wow .. man page is big .. great help !! [01:20] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:20] better than most kde programs which lack a manpage entirely [01:20] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.148.105) left irc: Quit: am0rphis [01:20] a blueman? [01:20] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:20] anyone get X consuming around or almost 200MB of ram when having compisitor on ? [01:20] i mean [01:20] kde compositor* [01:21] pupit, well... What can I do to disabled this auto feature ? [01:21] wow deco is alive [01:21] hai jeev [01:21] :D [01:21] where've you been ? [01:21] jeev: in a box :( [01:21] but it was full of toys [01:22] arumania1 (~arumaniac@a89-152-31-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: thanks bb [01:23] greetings deco ;) [01:23] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:23] hi The-Croupier [01:24] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:24] hows you been doing the the toy box? [01:24] ;) [01:24] ;D, well it's my new pc i got a long time ago [01:25] been fun [01:25] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [01:26] I kill blueman processus but when I restart the computer, blueman is launched again and I must kill it again... Why it runs automatically please? [01:26] new pc, long time ago... :( hmmm [01:27] yugiohjcj: check your starting processes, pkgs...etc..... [01:27] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:29] The-Croupier, the rc.bluetooth script is not executable and the only services I run are : hald and messagebus. I could remove the blueman package but I just want to disabled it. [01:30] yugiohjcj: you have to right click it, and quit it i presume, with dont start next time ... or something [01:31] pupit, when I right click on it I have few possibilities and I can't exit it [01:32] the only way to exit it is too kill it from the console [01:32] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:33] yugiohjcj: blueman cannot run without bluez deamon [01:34] xbmc has a wii controller interface throw bluez and stuff [01:34] yugiohjcj: its a blue thing ;) [01:34] why, because I just made an xbmc box, and its neat... [01:34] but I don't have any joysticks yet [01:35] exactly it is : /usr/bin/blueman-applet [01:35] it is running [01:35] yugiohjcj: you must have messed with blue** [01:35] you see! [01:36] so why /usr/bin/blueman-applet is launched at startup? [01:37] probably KDE call this python script [01:37] I would like to tell to KDE to stop starting this script [01:38] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-81-3.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] gabriel (1000@201.215.50.22) joined ##slackware. [01:39] I don't use those enviroments, because of that reason, lots of times no idea whats really going on. [01:40] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-81-3.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:40] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [01:40] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [01:40] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:40] somebody can tell me whats happened with the slackware gallery, i can't found the website :o [01:42] gabriel: look at the topic [01:42] works for me - http://gallery.slackadelic.com/ [01:42] Alright. [01:43] yugiohjcj: join #blueman [01:43] ahhh new link [01:43] thanks [01:43] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:43] yugiohjcj: or kde [01:43] miss_riss (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). 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[02:02] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:03] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) joined ##slackware. [02:03] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: FROM HERE to CURRENT [02:10] The-Croupier (Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [02:12] meh [02:12] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:12] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 619 seconds [02:14] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:19] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:19] ouyuu (~hpo3@114.102.21.124) joined ##slackware. [02:20] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] Could anyone remind me of a command that lists various input devices and which /dev/ nodes they use? [02:22] E.g. how would I find out which device is used by my touchpad? 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[02:45] The reason I'm asking is because I get errors when starting X with my xorg.conf and it seems like I'm using the wrong device for the touchpad or something. [02:45] (EE) Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware. [02:45] (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Touchpad" [02:46] I've tried /dev/mouse, /dev/input/mice, and /dev/input/event8 (got it from the output of the command that I can't remember now) [02:48] maybe you need change the Option Protocol [02:48] I had "PS/2" to my Dell touchpad [02:48] have* [02:48] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [02:48] gabriel (1000@201.215.50.22) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:49] Hmm, I see [02:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:50] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Don't follow me [02:54] It starts just fine with the default configuration (i.e. if I remove xorg.conf)... I wish I could see what protocol it's using by default :D I've tried auto-dev, udev, and psaux [02:54] Granted, in all of those cases the touchpad still works, but I don't like that error [02:56] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:58] ouyuu (~hpo3@114.102.21.124) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:01] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [03:02] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:04] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [03:04] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:04] yop all [03:06] I can't start kde since the last upgrade on current, I'm alone with this problem ? [03:07] ZMR (~Janus@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:08] ZMR (~Janus@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [03:08] jun_ (~quassel@c122-108-20-136.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:09] jun_ (quassel@c122-108-20-136.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [03:11] Ephedrax: upgrade --install-new l/*.t?z ? [03:11] upgradepkg* [03:12] no packages to up [03:13] I've got a fucking error in my /var/log/messages [03:13] dbus-daemon: [system] Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.9" (uid=1000 pid=2348 comm="kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit]) interface="org.free desktop.Hal.Device.CPUFreq" member="SetCPUFreqGovernor" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal" (uid=0 pid=1831 comm="/usr/sbin/hald)) [03:13] dunno if it's that. [03:13] use pastebin [03:14] it's just one line dude, that's not flood ;) [03:14] cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|wc -l ? [03:15] 674 [03:15] http://pastebin.com/zJK0ERJR <--- cpufreq-info output [03:18] I'm on x86_64 current for information. [03:18] /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload [03:19] reload ok. [03:19] are you member of "power" groups? [03:19] Ephedrax: show me output of this: "getent group power | grep -q $USER ; echo $?" [03:19] no powtrix , I'll add. [03:19] rworkman: 0 [03:19] That's not what's preventing kde from starting though [03:20] Ephedrax: you just gave conflicting answers to me and powtrix [03:20] I'm just giving you what you're asking :/ [03:21] Ephedrax: you told powtrix that you are not in the power group, but yet you told me that you are. [03:21] rworkman: I gave you the output of the command. I can't change the result for you. [03:21] Sigh [03:22] Are you or are you not in the power group? [03:22] I modify the groupe before your command. [03:22] group* [03:22] Ah, that's important. [03:22] this is why my answer for ya is 0 I think :) [03:22] Indeed. [03:23] You will have to logout and back in before the change will register, and also root will need to reload the messagebus service (reload, NOT restart) [03:23] 'k [03:23] brb so [03:23] check CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT too, about power management [03:24] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-55.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:24] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:24] Ephedrax: as I said earlier, that's not why kde won't start though. For future reference, less hostility toward those helping you would be better. [03:24] and he's gone, of course. [03:25] For what it's worth, this sort of response is NOT going to put one in my priority list for helping: [03:25] 00:18 < Ephedrax> rworkman: I gave you the output of the command. I can't change the result for you. [03:25] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [03:25] can someone accesse the google.com ? [03:26] https://www.google.com/ yes [03:26] is it slow ? [03:26] https ^ [03:26] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:26] back< [03:27] with fluxbox, kde won't start. [03:27] omg I can't access none of google services [03:27] Ephedrax: as I said earlier, that's not why kde won't start though. For future reference, less hostility toward those helping you would be better. This sort of response is NOT likely to put you on priority lists for getting help: "00:18 < Ephedrax> rworkman: I gave you the output of the command. I can't change the result for you." [03:28] powtrix: maybe it's on your ISP web cache [03:28] try to search anything [03:28] I would have been more than happy to explain what/why the command was doing if you didn't understand it, but the sarcasm was unwarranted. [03:28] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is nice to bookmark [03:29] works well [03:29] trhodes: what if that site is down? Then what? [03:29] rworkman, then you'll just have to wonder :P [03:29] I'm not here for me rworkman . I'm here for the community, to see if another ppl has got the same problem, and if it's a probleme with the current, or hardware. You don't want to help me ? Don't worry. [03:30] sigh [03:30] trhodes: :) [03:31] I love when people make difficult decisions easier. [03:32] btw, what is your problem Ephedrax ? does your X server stop responding to keyboard / mouse ? [03:32] kde won't start on my machine, but i haven't bothered to find out what's going on [03:32] trhodes: just my kde since the last upgrade on x86_64 current that won't start. [03:33] do you have to ctrl+alt+bksp out of X or something ? [03:33] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [03:33] at the start, when the little window in the center of the screen load (with the icons), its load the hdd icons, and PAM ! back to kdm. [03:34] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) [03:34] slackware doesn't have PAM :) [03:34] ;) [03:34] haha [03:35] first of all, I though that it was just the .kde that was sensitive, but even if I removed it, same results. [03:36] rirombo (~rirombo@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [03:37] merge the .new on /etc/kde [03:38] Do you guys ever get error "(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)" when starting X? [03:39] powtrix: the .new of what ? [03:39] Somehow conkeror completely messes up X to the point that I need to reboot to be able to startx again. I figured that might be a problem. [03:39] find /etc -iname '*.new' [03:40] arenics, did you fix your google? resolv.conf? [03:40] rirombo: that's normal; fbdev being present is even worse :) [03:41] rirombo: when konq messes it up, *how* is it messed up? [03:41] I've got 4 files: shadow, group, password and rc.inet1.conf If I put the group.new and passwd.new into my /etc there will be no prob ? [03:42] yes there'll be a problem [03:42] powtrix: dns ok, I can accesse any page less google (it is slow) [03:43] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) joined ##slackware. [03:43] rirombo: almost surely graphics driver issues. Are you feeling brave? [03:44] rworkman: It stops responding to keyboard or mouse events (even though mouse pointer still moves around) and just sits there. I get the following error: [03:44] intel_bufmgr_gem.c:1060: Error setting domain 53: Input/output error [03:44] (EE) intel(0): Failed to submit batch buffer, expect rendering corruption or even a frozen display: Input/output error [03:44] Axius (~fd@92.84.31.31) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Oh, yeah, definitely intel driver problem. Probably fixed by now. Want to test new X stuff? :) [03:45] http://slackware.com/~rworkman/xorg-1.8/ [03:45] Sure :) [03:45] rirombo: ^ Be sure to read the NOTES file :) [03:46] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:46] Will do, thanks! [03:47] archceza1 (1000@acvz113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:47] rirombo: please let me know how things work, if you have any migration issues, etcetera -- even if you think they're *your* fault. I'll need to consider all of that when documenting the changeover [03:48] archcezar (1000@acsp152.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:49] rworkman: Okay :) [03:49] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.162.113) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:49] udev only sounds ... interesting [03:53] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.169.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [03:53] ill try it in my lap [03:53] "intel" :) [03:54] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:55] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.162.113) joined ##slackware. [03:59] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:00] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:01] mpa_ (~mpa@82.42.192.179) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Do you guys normally install all input and video drivers, or only the ones you need? [04:02] mpa_ (~mpa@82.42.192.179) left irc: Client Quit [04:06] _AtheoS_ (~AtheoS@82.42.192.179) joined ##slackware. [04:07] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:10] the size of them aren't a problem, by me all are added [04:11] *nods* I see, thanks [04:11] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [04:12] rworkman: Just to let you know, the upgrade was completed successfully and it seems like my problem is at least partly solved. X just printed a message that it found a hung GPU and disabled accelearation, and keyboard/mouse works, etc. [04:14] Well, it almost works without acceleration. I don't have a cursor and other such nicities. Will reboot and try with unhung GPU. [04:14] rirombo (~rirombo@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: BRB [04:19] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-85-57.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[06:25] t0f: internet account [06:25] something has to dial and authenticate with your provider, it could be the router or your computer [06:25] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-116-209.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [06:31] john_dee (~id@93-81-68-73.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:40] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-129-111.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:40] arumania1 (~arumaniac@a89-152-31-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:41] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:43] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-116-209.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:43] howto see the exact gpu drivers my system use? [06:44] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:45] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:47] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:53] already installed jdk and jre [07:54] make links or edit studio's config for right path [07:59] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-149-197-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-149-197-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:00] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-149-197-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [08:01] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB8F0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:06] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. [08:06] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:06] hello [08:07] there is a way to extend pkgconfig path permanently ? [08:07] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.104.113) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:09] redhat have contributed 16% of entire code to gnome, and 11.2% of entire code to the kernel! [08:11] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:15] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:18] me - Have you met Bill Gates? What did you say? What would you like to say to him? [08:18] I have never met him and I suspect we won't have that much to talk about. We may both have operating systems but he is a marketing guy and I am a technical guy. [08:18] Action: dustybin falls off chair laughing [08:18] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-116-209.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: http://linuxspirit.fr [08:21] hm... I sometimes really wonder if Linus Torvalds has a favorit distro ^.^ [08:21] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-116-209.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:22] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) joined ##slackware. [08:23] slackware of course [08:24] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:24] guys is there a way to dock the icon window in dia to the main (diagram) window? Is kinda lousy to switch between windows for every 2nd click :-( [08:25] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. 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[09:26] pprkut: Well, I sometime need to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH in order to found gtk2 and I'd like to know how to set it permanently in pkg-config path [09:27] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. [09:27] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-149-197-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:28] andrewax (andrewax@201-89-131-211.paemt700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [09:31] _AtheoS_ (~AtheoS@82.42.192.179) joined ##slackware. [09:31] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:33] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:37] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. [09:40] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:8fa:900:548d:5bab:b5ed) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:41] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:41] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:46] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. 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Also, do you have an example of when you need to do that? [09:55] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) joined ##slackware. [09:55] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:55] heya,folks [09:56] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [09:56] bear (bear@188.24.228.182) joined ##slackware. [09:57] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:97d:308e:11ab:f63b:16c3) joined ##slackware. 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[12:18] http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/readme.html [12:18] i already read that [12:19] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:19] Action: Sigma|NoAgenda shrugs [12:19] just did a google search [12:19] i have run out of things to look at on google [12:19] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [12:20] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:20] i need some examples [12:21] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [12:21] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:21] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:22] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:23] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:23] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:24] jeev: you around? [12:24] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:25] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:25] yea [12:26] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:26] you were looking for me earlier? :p [12:26] nope [12:26] dont remember [12:26] brb [12:26] oh, a lil bot said you were, lol [12:27] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:27] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [12:28] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:28] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. [12:28] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:29] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:32] Last message repeated 3 time(s). [12:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.190.191) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:33] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:34] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:34] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.178.148) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:36] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:36] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [12:36] What's the dangerous temp for hdd? [12:37] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:37] It depends of your hdd [12:37] john_dee: look at the specs from your manfucaturer [12:37] manufacturer even [12:37] :D [12:37] gniks, cause i said "have you seen [12:37] ah :p [12:37] [09:34am] -g0v- please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. [12:37] then i bet it messages you [12:37] Patero-ng (~hp@174-23-46-96.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:37] perhaps after you /cycle [12:37] I want to find GLIBC_2.9 for slackware 12 [12:38] yeah, that was it lol [12:38] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:38] that's funny [12:38] kernul 2.6.21.5 do I need ta install for my kernel version [12:38] ananke: Don't think they are much different. But am I right assuming that >50C is not good? [12:38] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:39] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:39] john_dee: it depends. [12:39] thumbs: Talking consumer sata drives. Not enterprise stuff [12:40] john_dee: depends on the manufacturer. [12:40] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:40] hello! [12:40] I asked a question [12:40] Patero-ng: we know. Be patient. [12:41] thumbs, do you know what glibc is, even? [12:41] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:41] why [12:41] er, Patero-ng ^ [12:41] thrice`: huh why are you asking me? [12:41] I see. 60C for most of seagate drives [12:41] is some sort of mecanismo to run newer interfaces objects [12:41] he's a notorious troll [12:41] Patero-ng: meaning this? ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-12.0/slackware/a/glibc-solibs-2.5-i486-4.tgz [12:41] ananke: I was about to say.... [12:41] lol [12:41] thumbs, typo, sorry :> [12:42] annoying as hell, has been banned from here and #linux quite a few times [12:42] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:42] ananke: I recall too. [12:42] ok I need 2.9 already have 2.5 [12:42] And it's a maximum safe :\ [12:42] but don't wanna to change slack ver [12:42] Patero-ng: install 13.x [12:42] but [12:42] is der sum other wey to install on my bt3 slack12 [12:43] Patero-ng: that's not English [12:43] woot [12:43] is [12:43] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:43] lol [12:43] bt3 slack12. Wth is this sh*t anyway?! [12:43] backtrack 3 [12:43] Patero-ng: actually, where is your point to stick with version 12, if needed newer software? [12:43] it appears that Patero-ng has not changed. He's still annoying as hell. [12:43] There's no such thing [12:43] It's either bt3 or slack12 [12:43] Patero-ng: and we don't support backtrack linux. [12:44] insectopia? [12:44] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:44] Ubuntu is Debian too yknow [12:44] Patero-ng: you want a newer glibc, install a recent slackware release. [12:44] ok then I can't install GLIBC_2.9 on slackwawre 12 [12:44] Patero-ng: you want a newer glibc, install a recent slackware release. [12:44] ? [12:44] no [12:44] Patero-ng: you always can compile it :) [12:44] is that the only wey [12:44] so then [12:45] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:45] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:45] ..package by package to make your system work smoothly .. about the same as just upgrading to newest slackware :) and maybe instead of backtrax or what was that name [12:46] josemanuel (~josemanue@242.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:46] Sigma|NoAgenda (WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [12:46] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:46] blondais: that is much more work than backing up /home and /etc and installing 13.1 [12:46] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [12:47] thumbs: that's the point i'm trying to bring in front of Patero-ng [12:47] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:47] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:49] svierz (SVierZ@host4-90-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [12:49] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:49] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB8F0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:52] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [12:52] I think he's done trolling us. [12:52] x-ip_ (~x-ip@200.117.235.118) joined ##slackware. [12:53] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:53] maybe someone has a script or something to compile kde 4.5.5rc3 ? =) [12:53] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: ... [12:54] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:54] a makefile? [12:55] wait [12:55] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:55] were u suggesting upgrading packages makes ur linux slower [12:56] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:56] lol, [12:56] Patero-ng: then downgrade to linux 2.4.x :) [12:56] ah [12:56] I was thknking bout dat to allow netbeui [12:56] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.161.176) joined ##slackware. [12:56] but I then tought it was gonna be dumb idea for other programs [12:57] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:57] x-ip_, alienBOB has packages, if you run -current [12:57] ballcutter (~ballcutte@h-98-104-154-158.ip.alltel.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:57] I haven't touch my installation rly since 2008 would installing GLIBC_2.9 make problems? [12:58] yes [12:58] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:58] tell me 1 [12:58] isBEKaml (keml@122.174.161.176) left ##slackware. [12:58] hmm i'm running 13 :( [12:59] u guys r not clear u just want me to do 13 [12:59] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [12:59] is some work u know [12:59] you're not even running slackware [12:59] no we want you to find a bt3 channel and get support from them [12:59] Patero-ng: you are free to compile whatever package you need from source anytime anyplace [12:59] Action: x-ip_ looks for alienBOB packages .... [13:00] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:01] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:01] ouch, there are a lot of packages >><' [13:02] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:03] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:03] mannynix (~mannynix@200.56.148.85) joined ##slackware. [13:03] g4tsu-old-pc (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-175-81.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:03] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:06] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [13:06] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.161.176) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:07] hey guys, how long does it take to approve submissions on slackbuilds.org? [13:07] depends on the work load :> [13:07] NativeAngels (~nativesla@client-81-107-135-168.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: <>RealityBytez mIRC v2.1<> created by <>PlayfulGod<> for the RealityBytez IRC Network<> [13:07] I see a long list in their pending queue. :) [13:08] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:09] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:09] and none on their approved list. :| [13:09] well [13:09] we need more programers work @ the same thyme and I intent to do it [13:10] thyme ? [13:10] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:10] s/thyme/time/ [13:10] oh, right.. I just don't recognise the word with my limited vocabulary. [13:11] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:11] lol....not that spicy..but awesome,in soup...;*) [13:11] linuxgoob (~linuxgoob@adsl-99-73-24-226.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:14] Last message repeated 2 time(s). 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[13:35] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:35] you think his spelling is terrible, you should see his logic [13:35] skinder (~skinder@87.228.25.170) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:36] skinder (~skinder@87.228.25.170) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:36] oh we see it alright [13:37] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:38] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:38] zaltekk (~zaltekk@71-15-84-157.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:38] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:39] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [13:41] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [13:41] dfrank (~dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [13:41] dear All! i need to copy all files and dirs that begins with dot. all hidden files. i tried "cp -R ./.* /dest/path" but then "." and ".." also copying! how do the trick? 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[14:01] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:02] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:02] dfrank, perhaps a better glob would be ./.*[^.] [14:03] caoliver (~oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:03] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:04] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:05] xTz (~user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:05] someone there is registered to report bugs on kde? [14:05] couse i wanna report some but don't want to register [14:06] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:07] if you dont care to see the bugs fixed, dont register [14:07] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-129-111.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:07] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:07] or you gotta wait until someone else reports them [14:08] but i can sympathize, i couldn't possibly register for every piece of software i have to use [14:08] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:08] i still cannot get bonnie++ to work, i been at this for 2 hours :( [14:08] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.117.142) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:08] I think you could, Skywise. [14:09] I think what you meant to type was "I couldn't possibly be bothered to register" [14:09] ;P [14:09] tomato, tomahto [14:09] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:09] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:09] the most apathetic fruit [14:10] doesn't even care if it's regarded as a vegetable by most of the world [14:10] screw you, tomato [14:10] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:10] people used to think it was poisonous [14:10] It is related to nightshade [14:11] so are potatoes [14:11] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:11] lots of things are actually [14:11] it's amazing [14:11] thats why you shouldn't eat green potatoes [14:11] the skin is poisonous when its green [14:12] this is hillarious http://www.osnews.com/comments/23618 [14:12] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:12] it turns green when exposed to light and produces the toxins to prevent insects and animals from eating it [14:12] I can read Wikipedia too, Skywise. ;) [14:13] oh, i didn't look it up [14:13] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:13] at some point [14:13] :P [14:13] no, i was told growing up to keep potatoes out of the light [14:13] we always kept them in a bin [14:13] I was told that if I put my tooth under my pillow a billowy fairy girl would come and replace it with money. [14:14] thats not exactly what happens [14:14] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:14] No, what happens is that parents are horrible creatures who lie to their children. [14:14] i put a tooth under my pillow without telling my parents an nothing happend, so i figured it out [14:14] me too [14:14] assholes [14:14] lol [14:15] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:15] neonflux (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:15] i found out there was no santa claus when the toys were too complicated for my parents to put together so they got me to do it [14:15] Do you think the tomato was trying to skate by on the reputation of its cousin Belladonna? [14:16] the tomato orginially came from peru [14:16] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:16] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] and pasta originated in China [14:16] take that Italy [14:16] i don't know why it was taken back to italy when they didn't eat it [14:16] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:17] pizza was invented in america [14:17] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:17] Skywise: in what country of the continent of america? [14:17] america [14:17] Skywise: modern pizza you mean? [14:17] Skywise: america is not a country [14:17] people have been covering bread with stuff for eons [14:17] yeah, it was then taken back to italy [14:18] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:18] yeah, they did lots of stuff that could of become pizza [14:18] but it was some guy making something for the lunch time crowd that invented it [14:18] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-68-82.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:18] Action: popl imagines neolithic pizza [14:18] america is short for the united states of america [14:19] Skywise: oh [14:19] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:19] Skywise: in my books, america is the continent. [14:19] it serves both roles [14:19] USA is shorter to type [14:19] :P [14:19] yeah it is [14:19] sahko, Skywise : so i'll have to register [14:19] us is even shorter [14:20] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:20] it must be usna [14:20] but its ambiguous [14:20] united states of north america [14:20] no, thats the us naval academy [14:20] The British people on the panel shows I watch all call the USA by America. [14:20] not of america couse america is bigger [14:20] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-200-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-183-023.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:21] isBEKaml (keml@122.174.161.176) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:21] there are other countries in the americas, but none named america [14:22] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:22] I suspended my laptop last night and when I woke up this morning the monitor wouldn't come back on. :/ [14:22] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: rafu [14:22] lame [14:22] was the video still sleeping? [14:22] you pressed the power button and moved the mouse did you popl ? ^^ [14:22] Skywise: I think so [14:23] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:23] Roin: No, I have the machine set to shutdown when I press the power button. [14:23] which is what I ultimately did [14:23] to wake it up all I have to do is raise the lid [14:23] I invented usna [14:23] Patero-ng: shush [14:23] I have a bussiness [14:23] you think you could ssh in and reboot/restart x [14:24] I don't know why you people just don't ignore padhu [14:24] I will start using united state of north america for my packages [14:24] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:24] er [14:24] Patero-ng: [14:24] not padhu [14:24] sorry [14:24] he's back to his trolling self, yes. [14:24] I don't see crap thumbs [14:24] :) [14:25] It's like he's not even there [14:25] until one of you mentions him [14:25] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:26] Roin: haha, you tried to be snarky but it didn't work. :P [14:26] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:26] :( [14:26] popl: why? [14:27] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:27] padhu: I tab-completed your nick by mistake. [14:28] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:28] popl: okey :-) [14:28] Actually I guess irssi tab-completed your nick [14:29] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:29] Skywise: I shutdown the laptop and started it again [14:29] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:30] Has anyone here ever had a problem with the display not waking up after a long suspend? [14:30] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:30] phail [14:31] no [14:31] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:31] popl: any errors show up in syslog? [14:32] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:33] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:33] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:34] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:34] MLanden: just some btusb errors [14:35] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:35] that's another thing I need to sort out but it's not integral right now [14:35] the first message I get is from the kernel and reads "Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.01 seconds) done." [14:36] which is strange because I'm actually waking it up o_O [14:36] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:37] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:37] Axius (~fd@92.84.27.25) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:38] Axius (~fd@92.84.27.25) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:39] popl: hmmm...something in ACPI is glitching..which kernel you using? [14:39] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-68-82.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [14:40] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:40] Which one is better ddrescue or dd_rescue? [14:40] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:41] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:41] john_dee: i've had success before with ddrescue [14:41] Weird0ne (~rogue@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. [14:41] MLanden: 2.6.33.4-smp [14:42] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:42] gbonvehi: What was the case? [14:42] 2.6.33.4 #2 SMP Wed May 12 22:31:33 CDT 2010 [14:42] crap, missed as witch [14:43] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:43] it's on x86_64 [14:43] haha I just broke the acm website [14:44] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:44] popl: ok..besides suspend, any other i/o errors? [14:45] good question, I don't think so [14:45] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:45] I will check [14:45] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-4-144.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:45] john_dee: started getting io errors, it started doing noises, could not boot and it hanged when trying to mount it [14:46] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:46] john_dee: btw, i did a quick search for dd_rescue and last update was on 2007, probably you should stick with ddrescue which is actively mantained [14:46] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:47] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:47] popl: another thing that could be checked is memory(i.e. memtest86)..know a mem stick on its last leg can f$ck up supend/resume [14:48] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:48] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-31-222.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:48] gbonvehi: Also it (dd_rescue) doesn't produce log file so yeah I'll start with ddrescue then. Tnx. What size was the drive and what did you do? Transfer the image to another drive? [14:49] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:49] MLanden: just some pnp error messages [14:49] 120gb, i transfered it to a usb disk [14:50] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:50] then mounted the image (i only recovered the data partition) [14:50] ran fsck (previously doing a backup of course) [14:50] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-177-58.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:50] gbonvehi: Lost anything or it did restore 100%? [14:50] MLanden: I hope it's not crappy memory [14:51] it couldn't get 20mb out of 120gb which fortunatly according to fsck were only mp3s :) [14:51] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:51] :D [14:52] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:52] Bad thing it's an NTFS partition. I wonder if I should look into windows software :\ [14:52] nah, ddrescue does raw recovering [14:52] it does not care about that [14:52] you will have however to run windows's chkdsk [14:53] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) joined ##slackware. [14:53] after getting all the data, btw, it took 1 week here heh [14:53] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:53] popl: hopefully not....might've been just an ACPI glitch [14:53] but it was the disk's falt which was already screwed [14:53] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Well, yeah. Not a good idea with win too. It will try to mount it in rw right away [14:54] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:54] Week? Dang. I have to take out at least 250 gigs out of 740 [14:54] 750* [14:54] just remember to do a backup before trying any mount or fsck :) [14:54] I will :D [14:54] john_dee: it all depends on the damage, dd will try to be more specific after each pass on blocks that cannot be read [14:55] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:55] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:55] john_dee: good luck with it, bbl [14:55] gbonvehi: Yep, thanks :) [14:56] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:56] piterpk (~PiterPunk@187.119.56.15) joined ##slackware. [14:57] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [14:59] Last message repeated 1 time(s). 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[15:03] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [15:03] padhu (~padhu@175.40.20.19) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:04] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [15:04] the blame game [15:04] :) [15:05] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [15:05] Usually, computer science departments/institutes has worst web pages than business/marketing or law schools [15:06] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [15:07] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:07] now we are playing the wild generalizations game [15:07] ;P [15:07] popl: brazillian computer society have a very ugly and unuseful web page. [15:08] Hehehe [15:08] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [15:08] I already had a problem once with my web account on acm.org [15:08] they told me to delete it and make a new one :/ [15:08] now I get an error whenever I try to create a new one [15:09] Hahaha [15:09] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [15:09] suid0 (~sergiovic@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [15:09] I has similar problems with my usenix account [15:10] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [15:10] Yeah, it's the best $42 I ever spent. :P [15:10] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.85.137) joined ##slackware. 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[16:26] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [16:26] http://secunia.com/advisories/40727/ [16:27] is this the bug in KVirc that caused the "just for the lulz" spamming? [16:27] jhw (~jhw@p548D43C6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:27] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:27] if so, there's a new version which fixes it [16:27] (just in case any other KVirc users want to know) [16:28] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:29] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:29] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:29] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:30] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:30] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. 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[16:50] ballcutter (~ballcutte@h-98-105-191-30.ip.alltel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:51] gnoel (~gnoel@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:51] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:51] piterpk (~PiterPunk@187.119.56.15) left irc: Quit: Bye [16:52] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:52] hi folks, I just installed slackware64 13.1. where should i copy the flash player plugins from adobe? [16:53] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) joined ##slackware. [16:53] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:53] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:53] g'devening :-) [16:54] gnoel, to use the flash player in 64-bit slackware you need full multilib support, and nspluginwrapper+flash [16:54] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:54] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [16:54] 64 bit flash is *still* broken?!? [16:55] it's not broken, it no longer exists :P [16:55] AppDeb: ty. is there a document on the web on how to set that up? [16:55] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:55] O_o [16:55] Slacking_Man (~Slacking_@pm1dialin-22.danbbs.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:56] gnoel, for multilib: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib for flashplayer: www.slackbuilds.org for nspluginwrapper: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/nspluginwrapper/build/ [16:57] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:57] gnoel, there is some stuff to do :P [16:57] AppDeb: Thanks [16:57] AppDeb: that's part of the fun of it all!! [16:57] gnoel, you can also use the 64bit flash plugin without all this hassle, but it has security issues [16:57] gnoel, it hasnt been updated [16:58] has linus torvalds written any books about the kernel? [16:58] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:58] no [16:58] just lot of speeches [16:59] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-106-155.w109-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: https://linuxspirit.fr [16:59] ok [16:59] which he didn't wanna do. [16:59] cmdl1n3 (~cmdline@AMontsouris-159-1-44-2.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:59] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [16:59] i think i have found a slackware user in this excellent photostream: [16:59] but they actually seem to be good [16:59] http://www.flickr.com/photos/13825348@N03/2950698622/in/photostream/ [16:59] there would be no point, kernel changes faster than he can write a book :P [16:59] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:59] the basics are still the same [17:00] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:00] he's supposes are everywhere video.google.com [17:00] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:00] even he doesn't really like talking to poeple, some how he pulls it off, and then some... [17:00] pretty neat if you ask me [17:01] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:01] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:02] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-106.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-175-128.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-143.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:07] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [17:07] gnoel (~gnoel@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:07] fgnosferatu (~Francis@187.39.78.77) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:08] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:08] dream women?! [17:08] http://www.flickr.com/photos/13825348@N03/2951012634/ [17:09] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:09] dustybin: ugly lol [17:10] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:10] women dream [17:10] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:11] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:11] Slacking_Man (~Slacking_@pm1dialin-22.danbbs.dk) left irc: Quit: Ayttm logging off [17:12] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:13] Hrmm.. does anyone know why does my dhcpcd keep overwriting /etc/resolv.conf despite my having DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[4]="yes" in my /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf? [17:13] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:13] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:13] rirombo, is that for eth4? [17:13] rirombo: do you have network services running? [17:13] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] AppDeb: for wlan0 [17:14] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:14] dustybin: How do I check that? [17:14] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [17:15] rirombo: erm maybe its not that, think im getting mixed up with something else [17:15] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0501.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:15] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:15] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:15] *network manager! [17:16] Then probably not. [17:16] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:16] rirombo: are you using wicd or networkmanager? [17:16] Weird0ne (~rogue@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:16] rirombo: both will overwrite /etc/resolv.conf [17:17] I don't think I even have either of those [17:17] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:17] so you're just using wpa_supplicant to connect to your wifi? [17:18] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:18] *nods* [17:18] what's the point of http://www.flickr.com/photos/13825348@N03/2950860590/in/photostream/ [17:19] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:21] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:21] have you tried manually running dhcpcd with "-C resolv.conf" ? [17:21] rirombo, does it replace it then? [17:21] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:21] let me check [17:22] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:22] Doesn't look like it [17:22] rirombo, you have to close any dhcpcd that is already running [17:22] before you test again [17:22] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-76-83.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [17:22] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:22] Ah. BRB then :) [17:23] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:24] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:24] rirombo, you there or you disconnected? [17:24] :P [17:25] I'm back :) [17:25] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:25] you can also try to add a line "nohook resolv.conf" in /etc/resolv.conf [17:25] sorry [17:25] in /etc/dhcpcd.conf [17:26] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:26] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:26] not in /etc/resolv.conf [17:26] Will try, thanks :) [17:26] oh wow, those girls are actually contortionists at the linux foundation event [17:26] ridiculous [17:26] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.195.61) joined ##slackware. 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[17:55] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [17:55] I just saw something pretty cool [17:55] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:55] cool...do tell...:D [17:55] oh MLanden [17:55] it's not a memory issue [17:55] memtest results were fantastic [17:56] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com expired. [17:56] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:56] anyways I was troubleshooting the suspend problem I was talking about earlier [17:56] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:56] I found out that the display came back from suspend apparently, it's just the Xorg that is being odd [17:56] s/the/that/ [17:57] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:57] popl: sweet(always good to hear that the mem sticks are solid)...which xorg? [17:57] Anyways, after suspending and coming back from the suspend I went to switch vcs so I could login and kill X [17:57] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:57] what was cool is that the X cursor was overlayed over the text mode of the console [17:58] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [17:58] I couldn't move it or anything but it wasn't being redrawn when I filled the screen up with text [17:58] and what's more is that the shadowing was still there [17:58] (I have my [17:58] true...that is odd [17:58] X cursor with the shadow effect) [17:58] nice [17:58] stupid enter key [17:58] yeah I took a picture with my camera [17:59] it was the highlight of my day :P [17:59] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:00] xorg-server version is 1.7.7 [18:00] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:00] lol....ghost in the machine...>;() [18:00] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:00] it would've been cooler if gpm actually made the X cursor move [18:01] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:01] dfrank (~dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:01] but then that would mean something more nefarious was going on with X [18:01] I think it might be a bug in my graphics driver but I'm not sure how to troubleshoot it [18:02] popl: remember seeing the old matronix's do that...well,with tinyx [18:02] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:03] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:04] haha, yeah I am finding bug reports about the gm965 and suspending in Xorg [18:04] awesome [18:05] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [18:05] iceheart (~nihao@114.89.35.167) joined ##slackware. [18:06] popl: Grantsdale,right? the Intel GMA chip [18:06] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:06] well i'll go get some sleep.. cu gn8@all =) [18:06] Graf_Ith1ka (~georg@212-183-62-185.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:06] hah [18:07] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:07] I disabled window manager effects and it works [18:07] :P [18:07] brb [18:07] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [18:08] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:08] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [18:08] MLanden: I dunno the codename for the chip [18:08] skycrash (~sky@187.59.42.236) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:08] *chipset [18:09] but disabling composite effects seems like it's working [18:09] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:09] slackytude (~slacky@drms-4d000627.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: This is just a test [18:09] popl: was looking up wiki...think they call yours Broadwater...GMA X3000/X3500 [18:10] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:10] MLanden: it's the x3100 [18:11] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:11] MLanden: x3100 is hte mobile version of x3000 [18:11] ahh....Crestline [18:11] Hygor (~hygor@187.110.65.58) joined ##slackware. [18:11] Hygor (hygor@187.110.65.58) left ##slackware. [18:12] we're looking at the same Wikipedia article I take it :P [18:12] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:12] popl: :) [18:12] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:12] I should've dropped the extra cash on the NVidia chipset when I bought the laptop [18:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:13] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:14] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:14] jar_corefile (~jar_coref@adsl-76-208-66-202.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:16] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [18:16] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:18] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [18:18] adrianno (~rasta@187.112.217.143) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Or maybe I could just sell all my computers and move to some remote Eastern European village. [18:18] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. [18:19] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:20] iceheart (~nihao@114.89.35.167) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:20] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:21] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:21] whats wrong with eastern european villages? [18:22] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:22] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-4-112.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:22] I didn't say that anything was wrong with them, KaMii. [18:23] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:23] popl, :P [18:23] eh? [18:24] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:24] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-247-84.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:24] im thinking of making a mineral-oil computer [18:25] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:25] adrianno (~rasta@187.112.217.143) left irc: Quit: The 7 Deadly Sins: Por que da próxima vez que você olhar pro céu, você poderá estar vendo a Terra.   [www.t7ds.com.br] [18:26] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:26] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:26] KaMii: in this day and age that is probably considered unethical ;-) [18:26] why [18:26] unethical? [18:27] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:27] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:27] that has nothing to do with ethics [18:27] macavity: hardcorecomputer.com [18:27] or something like that, google it [18:27] shoulldnt it be veggie oil computer? :P [18:27] rage against the machines <- love that band nice tracks [18:28] hi first of all [18:28] KaMii: you didn't get the joke macavity made [18:28] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:28] sure macavity use vegetable oil [18:28] what joke? [18:28] it wasnt funy [18:28] hey m3tti... and yes, RATM rocks in the free world (wherever that is these days) [18:28] i said mineral oil, not fossile fuels [18:28] KaMii: how old are you? [18:29] 15 [18:29] how old are you? [18:29] and why does it matter [18:29] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:29] Action: macavity appends --pedantic to self [18:30] mineral -> comes from mining --> mineral oil -> oil extracted from the ground [18:30] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:30] KaMii: It matters because the kid today have even less of an attention span than I did when I was a kid in the 80s. [18:30] but never mind.. it was just a poor pun on the mexican gulf leak [18:30] whats wrong with using natural resources? mr. silicon computer chips in your computer [18:30] s/the kid/the kids/ [18:30] span? [18:31] nevermind, KaMii [18:31] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:31] ditto... nevermind [18:31] people have longer lifespan today than ever before in human history [18:31] KaMii: attention span, not life span [18:31] unless your from afghanistan [18:31] \me is building mumble wants to test around with it [18:31] woo [18:31] oh XD [18:31] Action: m3tti is building mumble wants to test around with it [18:31] XD [18:31] m3tti: you DOS lineage betrays you ;-) [18:32] can you really say that for fact? is the statistical data thats reliable from the 80s on that? [18:32] m3tti: voice chat client? [18:32] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:32] MLanden: yeah [18:32] Is KaMii a bot? [18:32] :P [18:32] popl: if so, i suspect it is written in cobol ;-) [18:32] wtf? [18:33] am i a bot? [18:33] m3tti: any particular game? [18:33] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:33] KaMii: can you prove that you are not? :P [18:33] KaMii: Have you passed the Turing test? [18:33] no just for fun [18:33] m3tti: cool [18:33] quit trying to troll me [18:33] noooooo fatal error XD [18:34] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:34] ok SPDConnection . Every german in that chat know that this is a fatal error XD [18:34] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:34] lol..a true gift...>:) [18:34] quick, hide the beer! Mr Nachox is here [18:35] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:35] KaMii: I wouldn't troll a 15 year old kid. It would be unethical. [18:35] Action: popl wonders how many kids are in this channel [18:36] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:36] popl: i know for a fact that there are a couple here.. but you rarely notice, since they have been "brought up" quite well by the rest of the community [18:37] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:37] by community are you referring to ##slackware or something else? [18:38] ##slackware, and to some extend ##slackware-offtopic too :-) [18:38] hrm somethings wrong with the mumble source [18:38] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:38] I don't know if IRC is a parenting-type community [18:38] m3tti: baybe it isnt articulate enought? ;-) [18:38] artaud (1000@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:38] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [18:39] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:39] artaud (1000@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [18:39] artaud (1000@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:39] popl: IRC in general.. heavens no... ##slackware, half'n'half so :P [18:39] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:39] artaud (1000@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [18:40] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:40] it's a sort of voluntary community, though [18:40] popl: here the younsteres learn 50% good manners and 50% holier-than-thou attitude :P [18:40] macavity: true [18:40] I mean if the kids don't like the parenting they get they can just /quit [18:40] Action: slackie hey buddies \o [18:40] macavity: there's a lot of self-righteous indignation in many IRC channels. [18:40] heya slackie [18:41] :-) [18:41] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:41] its the carrot-or-stick approach that works its magic here.. usually they need the technical tutoring, and as a by product have to learn how to communicate properly in a multicultural/oppinion/religion/gender/etc space [18:42] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:42] s/space/dictatorship/ [18:42] ok, time to watch a movie with the GF... i will come back and pester you all later :-D [18:42] what was wrong with KaMii ??? [18:42] popl: lol, semi true [18:42] macavity: ebnjoy [18:43] enjoy* [18:43] m3tti: apart from being Swedish? [18:43] j/k [18:43] MLanden: i wilbl :P [18:43] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:43] afl [18:43] XD [18:43] s/l/k/ dammnit [18:43] Action: macavity gives up and walks away slowly [18:43] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.171) joined ##slackware. [18:44] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:44] Action: popl loads the trebuchet [18:44] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-247-84.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:44] Action: popl puts KaMii in the trebuchet [18:44] that is the faliure. Haven't installed speachd so there is no speachd.h found [18:44] ok later [18:44] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [18:45] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:46] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:46] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:46] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-145-88.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:47] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:47] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:47] m3tti: does it need festival? 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[18:51] MLanden: thanx [18:51] m3tti: np.. good luck [18:52] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:52] yeah i hate it to figure out every dependencie i've to build XD [18:52] sometimes [18:53] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:53] jar_corefile (~jar_coref@adsl-76-208-66-202.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:53] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Quit: Saindo [18:54] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:54] but anyway slackware is the best gnu/linux i've ever used its so vanilla XD [18:55] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [18:55] ballcutter (~ballcutte@h-98-105-191-30.ip.alltel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:21] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:23] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [19:23] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:23] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB8F0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [19:24] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:24] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:25] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:25] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:26] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:27] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:27] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:27] why are you guys hating on me? like what did I ever do? dont like me then put me on ignore [19:28] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:28] huh? [19:28] KaMii: what happened? [19:28] KaMii, are you an only child? [19:28] Skywise: yes [19:29] they're only teasing you because you reacted [19:29] its something only children don't learn to cope with [19:29] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:29] and idk what happened, popl just starting going off on me [19:29] i know [19:29] its teasing [19:29] they were playing [19:29] and i just came back and saw he was talking about me for an hour.... [19:29] im not a child [19:29] tease them back or ignore them and they'll stop [19:30] the only value in teasting is the indignant response [19:30] heh i was lurking yup they were just teasin ya... don't take to personal... [19:30] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:31] and that mineral oil computer is sweet! [19:31] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:31] but too expensive [19:31] lol [19:31] im gonna make my own [19:31] i don't wanna have to change my oil in my car and pc [19:31] ahh that would be better [19:31] i dont think you would have to change the oil Skywise [19:32] and besides, it would be heavy as hell and a pain in the ass when you gotta swap a hd or cpu [19:32] yeah i doesn't get dirty [19:32] lol how many flops until you need an oilchange? [19:32] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:32] lol [19:32] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [19:32] Action: ut will stick with his simple cheap air cooling [19:32] just put your hdds on the outside [19:32] i wont submerge them [19:32] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:32] no telling how they will react if oil gets inside [19:33] i bet they would die fast [19:33] yeah i was thinking you could just keep the oil away from the hd bay [19:33] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:33] i'd rather someone did more work with peltiers [19:33] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:33] i dunno maybe not... [19:33] peltiers? [19:33] aren't peltiers really inefficient? [19:33] lpx: the mineraloil is denser than air [19:33] yup [19:33] and it can effect the spin of the HDD [19:33] and maybe break heads? [19:33] ahh [19:33] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [19:34] use ssd's? [19:34] thats what I was thinking [19:34] they're silent and can be throttled [19:34] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:34] well no reason to submerge an ssd, they dont generate heat [19:34] a peltier could keep your cpu below freezing [19:34] Ivshti (~Ivshti@77.76.51.86) joined ##slackware. [19:34] Action: ut grins [19:34] hehe i just use old pentium 4's that ppl throw away :) [19:34] lol [19:34] ya, thas what im gonna do [19:34] KaMii, ? [19:34] I haven't see any messages [19:34] im gonna take an old cheap comp and soak it mineral oil [19:34] from u [19:35] Skywise, [19:35] shut up [19:35] Channel flood from Patero-ng -- kicking [19:35] maybe someone has blocked his msgs :) [19:35] Patero-ng kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:35] nice [19:35] then start a swedish massage service [19:35] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:35] Action: ut gives slackboy a cookie [19:35] what was that about? [19:35] he's a troll [19:35] don't worry about what he doess [19:35] KaMii: ignore him [19:35] like identica or twitter? [19:36] twitter is a cheap computer? [19:36] or a... oh lol [19:36] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:36] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:36] ahh you said massage not message.... [19:36] lol ya [19:36] cuz i would have tons of mineral oil [19:36] right [19:37] and it would be warm [19:37] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:37] luckily, Patero-ng doesn't auto-rejoin channels. [19:37] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:37] well my idea is to hook a pump to the fishtank, and pump the oil to something that will cool it then pump it back in [19:37] and have a thermometer that will take core temp to regulate the cooling pump [19:38] but i dont know what to use to cool it [19:38] or how that all works [19:38] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:38] KaMii: heat dissipation is not that easy. [19:38] no im not planning on anything to be easy [19:38] KaMii: you'll need a massive heat sink. [19:38] a reverse radiator? [19:38] hrmmm you could perhaps a heat exchange [19:39] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:39] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.238) joined ##slackware. [19:39] but then also you must think that mineral oil will become thicker and colder temperature and be more densse [19:39] so i need to think about how that will effect the pump [19:39] KaMii: yes. [19:39] that pump dies, so does the computer [19:39] like 2 tubes, one filled with the oil and one filled with some kind of refrigerant [19:40] ya, but if its too cold.... then its gonna solidify [19:40] hmm. what's the point of the oiley computer again? [19:40] KaMii: IMO, you should test with a simple circuit to start. [19:40] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:40] then boom [19:40] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-66-158.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:40] Action: ut would understand if you could actually put fish in [19:40] ut: re-inventing liquid cooling systems. [19:40] i have a ibm thinkpad 760 that i can submerge [19:40] can you make fried at your desktop? [19:40] er fries [19:40] oil is more efficent at cooling [19:41] hahaha, french fries and firefox [19:41] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:41] isnt oil also a good insulator of heat? [19:41] stop it, im getting hungry [19:41] i guess [19:41] it'd better not be :) [19:41] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: BRB [19:41] or else it's the wrong thing to be using [19:41] hope not [19:41] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:41] well they use that in transistors [19:41] so it cant be that bad [19:42] I think it's a heat conductor [19:42] that site hardcorecomputer.com explained it quite well [19:42] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:42] ya but they are saying what liquid they use [19:42] Action: ut saw a big gaping hole where the flash content would go, and closed the page [19:42] the idea is to conduct heat so it can be released over a bigger area [19:42] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-141-90.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:43] so liquids used for cooling aren't insulators, they're conductors of heat [19:43] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:43] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] but dont we want it to be cold? [19:43] like keep it around 50 degrees C [19:44] yeah, but to make it cold, we want to take the heat and release it over a bigger area [19:44] that's why cars have radiators [19:44] Action: SlackLnx Hi sir's o/ [19:44] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:44] read some physics [19:44] thermal dynamics ftw [19:44] ya i have i reamember reading about that [19:44] Action: ut knows nothing of your fiziks, but gets the idea about heat distribution [19:45] Hrmm... I just upgraded my X using rworkman's excellent packages, and now Emacs is not updaing the screen in rxvt-unicode like it's supposed to. Do I need to recompile urxvt every time X is upgraded? [19:45] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:45] instructables has a nice tutorial on this [19:45] how do you know nothing about thermal dynamics? its like 3rd grade science [19:45] exactly [19:46] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:46] pressure and temperature [19:46] the word "dynamics" didn't look familiar next to "thermal" [19:46] figured it was something more advanced than that [19:46] dictionary.com ;) [19:46] its why the hairspray can gets cold when you use it [19:46] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-247-178.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:46] rirombo: what exactly are you trying to do? [19:46] i know the meaning of the words, man. context! [19:46] zaltekk (~zaltekk@71-15-84-157.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:47] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:47] KaMii: thats a slightly different phenomena, having to deal with how gases under pressure deal with temperature& but is under the same category [19:47] gniks: I have emacs running in urxvt, and since yesterday (when I upgraded X), it hasn't been updating the screen. For example if I switch buffer from ERC to w3m, I still see some of the ERC lines, etc. [19:47] why did you upgrade X? [19:48] KaMii: if I'm not mistaken, that's how refrigerators work [19:48] ya i know its different because its a gas, but yes same category [19:48] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:48] gniks: Because the intel driver in the X that shipped with 13.1 was having problems with my card and I kept getting hung GPU. [19:48] Ivshti: refrigerators work the same way as car coolants, heatsinks, and AC's work [19:48] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-145-88.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:48] yeah, plus compressed gasses [19:48] Nick change: wowmeow -> yesyes [19:49] the compressed gas never gets decompressed, that is the heat exchange medium [19:49] oh my god vnc is so slow [19:49] ms rdp RULES [19:49] And cold-breathing daemons that do all the actual work [19:49] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:49] rirombo: sorry, not sure what to suggest [19:49] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.166.85) joined ##slackware. [19:49] heat up liquid, move liquid away, cool liquid, move liquid back [19:49] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:49] jeev: try neatx [19:49] stone-age tech [19:49] let me know if you destroy X ;) [19:49] gniks: Thank you anyway :) Hehe, will do. [19:49] gniks, im vnc'ing to my windows 7 system cause RDP breaks something important i need open [19:50] hehe something? :D [19:50] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:50] hmm, thats also weird, cause ive never seen RDP break anything [19:50] yea some software [19:50] it does it with video stuff that's why [19:50] granted, its been a long while since ive used it [19:50] gniks: how's it get cooler than room temperature without compression and decompression of the gas? [19:50] radiators, it has to do with the type of fluid used [19:50] KaMii: make sure you put a fish tank bubbler in the oil... just for the visual effect [19:51] oh, radiators. [19:51] do gasses get cooler when they are decompressed and hotter when compressed? [19:51] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:51] hahaha lpx [19:51] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [19:51] Ivshti: same energy, smaller volume [19:51] the fluid gets passed through the radiator, which disburses the heat, cooling the liquid, the liquid returns to absorbs more heat from the inside of the fridge& the more heat you remove, the cooler it gets [19:52] Ivshti: read up on thermal dynamics thats exactly what they talk about [19:52] Ivshti: most gases yes [19:52] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:52] Patero-ng (~hp@174-23-46-96.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] hey [19:52] the troll is back [19:53] o/ [19:53] hey [19:53] kamm [19:53] u [19:53] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:53] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: BBIAW [19:53] This directory contains the version 2.7 release of the GNU C Library. [19:53] The GNU C Library is the standard system C library for all GNU systems, [19:53] and is an important part of what makes up a GNU system. It provides the [19:53] Channel flood from Patero-ng -- kicking [19:53] system API for all programs written in C and C-compatible languages such [19:53] Patero-ng kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:53] what a bloody idiot. [19:53] wtf lol [19:53] rworkman: ping [19:53] cant we just perma ban him? [19:53] has anyone tried building firefox 4 on slackware? got a working slackbuild? [19:53] i hope he's not just testing how fast he has to hit enter to get caught for flooding [19:53] KaMii: I'll make sure robby does, yes. [19:54] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:54] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:54] edman007: firefox is part of slackware official, check slackware-current for slackbuilds in the sources tree if they have built a firefox 4 [19:54] whats his issue? :p [19:54] he's not rational [19:54] he's just a troll [19:54] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-26-68.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] lots of those running around the world :p [19:54] KaMii: slackware-current doesn't have firefox 4 [19:54] gniks: Patero-ng is a retard, with no real question. [19:54] KaMii, yea, well i'm getting 'No rule to make target `-lpthread', needed by `libmozjs.so'. Stop.' [19:54] he has no imagination of a life [19:55] edman007: theres nightly builds for both architectures [19:55] brb food has arrived! [19:55] no need to build it [19:55] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:55] sahko, yea, but there is a patch I have to apply to keep my sanity [19:55] edman007: or you can try this: http://portablelinuxapps.org/download/?d=Firefox%204.0b1 [19:55] just make it executable and run it [19:55] i just untar it to ~ [19:55] i want to be prompted to quit if i hit ctl-q [19:56] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:56] good old Patero-ng. I miss him already. [19:56] sahko, so i have to build it so i can change the behavior [19:56] ok [19:57] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [19:57] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:57] otherwise i'll miss the w and hit q and i have to wait 5 minutes and enter my password 3 dozen times to get my tabs back... [19:57] if you have more than one tab you are prompted to quit [19:57] open* [19:57] ive decided to boycot firefox 4 for a while :p [19:58] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:58] oh, mernil is quieted in #freenode too. What a coincidence. [19:58] thumbs: what the hell he is talking about libc? [19:58] piterpk: nothing. He has no real question. [19:59] sahko, not if session save is enabled [19:59] piterpk: he will pick random text, or conversation, and paste them here. [19:59] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [19:59] and if it is not enabled and it crashes you lose all your tabs [19:59] thumbs, ban him already [19:59] jeev: you know I don't have ops here. [19:59] that guy is aso annoying i'd vote you to get ops [19:59] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:00] jeev: talk to robby. [20:01] he just pasts stupid shit in and doesn't even argue a point or anything? [20:01] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:01] gniks: yes. [20:01] annoying and lame [20:01] lol [20:01] Bizarre [20:01] gniks: he is known for mental instability, too. [20:02] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:02] just set him on ignore, problem solved [20:02] then ban him [20:02] thumbs, this guy sounds fun... [20:02] hehe [20:02] would any of you rely on "business class cable" to have a couple phone lines over via SIP ? important. [20:03] nooooooooooooo [20:03] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:03] jeev: define "couple" [20:03] 5 total lines, 1 is fax. [20:03] jeev: I have customers with 10 SIP lines. No issues. Some with 3 , and issues. [20:03] jeev, why not? It is no less reliable than the voip phones that they provide you with normally [20:03] jeev: in short, it depends on the connection, and the route. [20:04] right... [20:04] well, it's time warner and i've downloaded their config files, there actually is qos. [20:04] jeev: still. [20:04] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:04] i actually send 15 phones over cable and dsl right now with no issues, what am i complaining about [20:04] however, i'd personally not trust any cable service unless they'd honor some QOS to their edge [20:04] it's either 3/384 or 7/1 [20:04] jeev: I have customers in the SAME area, and one can't use more than 5, one uses 12 without problems. [20:04] jeev: it depends. [20:04] gniks, they wont offer qos on "business class" somehow they can charge more [20:05] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:05] probably not& but could cause quality issues if their infrastructure sucks [20:05] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] i haven't had good luck with cable companies [20:05] as I said, it depends. [20:05] i agreed :) [20:06] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:06] jeev: are you trying to run SIP to a remote location, or to a remote service? [20:07] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:07] gniks: that was the assumption, yes. [20:07] suid0 (sergiovic@unaffiliated/suid0) left ##slackware. [20:07] Ivshti (Ivshti@77.76.51.86) left ##slackware. [20:07] gniks: otherwise, the internet provider doesn't matter. [20:07] well, which one? [20:07] cause you can use an ISP to conncet two locations [20:07] or you can commission a private connection [20:07] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:08] a point-2point. yes. [20:08] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:08] but if your using a service like skype, then there is no point to a private connection [20:08] yea i'm thinking bout even sending the call over openvpn but that'd probably be too much [20:08] we have several customers that use that, with 50 users. [20:08] not sure what your budget is, but why not commission an MPLS connection between the points? [20:08] gniks, lets see, land lines.. 300 bux a month [20:08] allocate 1000-3000 per month. [20:09] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:09] for a 10mbit, full duplex P2P connection. [20:09] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:09] so get some serious PTP for 5 lines? :D [20:09] not 5, no. [20:09] it's for two employees ;) [20:09] well MPLS connections are more flexible :p [20:09] but yeah [20:09] gniks, how about i send a satellite to space for you :) [20:10] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:10] haha, well im just spoiled i guess& my company lets me spend pretty much whatever on the network [20:10] this is for a friend [20:10] ah [20:10] datacenter is 35 miles away [20:11] jeev: how many hops? [20:11] if cable isn't available ( i will know tomorrow ) then my other option may be 6mbit / 768 kbps DSL [20:11] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:11] thumbs, unknown as of now. [20:11] just a second for a comet like shoemaker levy 9, jeev .... have you thought about that? [20:11] jeev: it's important. [20:11] i think time warner has a decent network [20:11] i dont think there'd be jitter in time warner if charter's isnt half bad [20:11] ive seen a lot of issues with time warner's network [20:11] as a data center network engineer that is [20:11] jeev: there's always jitter. [20:12] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:12] jeev: the question is, how much is there, and will it impact voice quality? [20:12] i'd have to test it [20:13] jeev: precisely. [20:13] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:13] i think their set up requires a contract [20:13] jeev: the higher the number of hops, the greater the chance of packet loss or jitter. [20:13] DSL would be half the price. [20:13] Noob question, but what is shipped with slackware to monitor temperatures? [20:13] lm_sensors [20:13] Preferably in CLI [20:14] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:14] gniks: Thanks [20:14] jeev: for a reference, I have seen very good connections with less than 7 hops. [20:14] isn't CLI always preferable? [20:14] lpx: No? [20:14] %) [20:14] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: reboot [20:14] let me see what it is now fronm another place [20:15] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:15] lpx: But you can use keep on browsing with lynx, if you want to ;) [20:15] s/use// [20:15] thumbs, right now.. 14 freaking hops. 10 miles away, thank you CHARTER! (a test office with 15 lines) [20:15] jeev: wow. [20:16] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:16] 14 hops really? [20:16] jeev: that might get tricky after 10+ SIP trunks. [20:16] i can get to to CA from NYC in half that [20:17] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:17] charter sends it to level3 in vegas, then back to LA. [20:17] wow [20:17] now thats poor connectivity [20:17] level3 has a presence in LA [20:17] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [20:17] "dslextreme" my favorite dsl company, 8 hops including my box. 13 ms [20:18] yea level3 has a presence EVERYWHERE [20:18] jeev: 8 hops is good. [20:18] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:18] fgnosferatu (~Francis@187.39.78.77) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:18] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:19] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [20:19] i think timewarner will be good too, i can check later. i dont have access to a time warner system right now [20:19] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:19] i own part of level3 (very small part) :p thank you stock exchange, lol [20:19] at the rate they give landlines, i can get a PRI but it's just TWO people [20:19] i haven't seen much of time warner issues on the west coast, more in the mid west, so you might be safe :p [20:19] i can get 7/1 timewarner and make it 15/2 :) [20:20] but i dont want to send legit phone traffic over that [20:20] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:20] infact, i want to get away from that stuff, it's tempting but lame [20:20] yeah [20:20] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [20:20] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:20] i dont know, any suggestions ? [20:21] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:21] find the provider with the least latency and jitter in your price range [20:21] get dsl or cable ? cable is 70 bux for 3 megs, 120 for 7. 384 up and 768 resp. dsl is 768 also. [20:21] but dsl aint guaranteed i think the location may be too far [20:21] im waiting on a response for distance [20:21] i can do a t1 :) but kills the savings [20:22] hah yeah just a bit [20:22] i wish how metro ethernet worked [20:22] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:22] wish how? [20:22] i just want to know how the costs are factored for that [20:22] oh thats fun stuff :p [20:22] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] speakeasy sells 10/1 i think for 899, why ? [20:22] metro ethernet gets very expensive [20:22] i have a gigabit here. [20:23] but expensive for who ? is that mostly telco fee ? [20:23] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] expensive for a small business [20:23] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:23] you have to actually lease lines, light the fiber, pay for cross connects to your provide, and pay your provider for bandwidth [20:23] too bad the expensive part isn't for the actual bandwidth but for the stupid leased lines [20:23] however, different telco's may have different packages to do that [20:24] yeah [20:24] i bet all their "metro ethernet" is are a couple multiplexed t1's [20:24] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:24] i wish th ecost to actually loop from the datacenter to the location was like 100/month, i'd have a massive boner most of the time [20:24] lol naw& metro ethernet really is ethernet on all layers [20:25] HOW do they have ethernet at a distance like that, it goes through fiber obviously [20:25] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:25] then last mile, wherever the fiber crap is, then what is it ? [20:25] matrix__ (~matrix@host-65-173-59-37.acelerate.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] well for my setup, its fiber all the way to each endpoint routers [20:25] they use a lot of light magic [20:26] my connections go from Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL at Equinix [20:26] where you at [20:26] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:26] hello [20:26] how much you pay for what [20:26] how are u all? [20:26] im not exactly sure& i don't deal with the billing in terms of numbers [20:26] what's the distance on that [20:26] a few hundred miles ? [20:26] at least, ive never actually measured it :p [20:26] jrt05 (~jason@c-98-196-24-103.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:27] is it from office to atacenter ? [20:27] datacenter [20:27] datacenter [20:27] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:27] Liquid Web [20:27] yesyes (yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [20:27] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-179-12-98.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:27] oh [20:27] I'm trying to install alsa-drivers-1.0.23 from alsa-project. I have 2.6.33.4 kernel with "Sound card support" and nother enabled under it. When I try to modprobe snd-hda-intel, I get FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.33.4/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg), and dmesg says: snd: Unknown symbol register_sound_special_device.. Can anyone help me? [20:27] how many employees ? [20:27] just over 200 [20:27] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:27] oh, yum [20:28] but we don't have services in chicago [20:28] gigE ptp ? [20:28] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:28] thats where we hand off to the internet backbone [20:28] yeah [20:28] yep [20:28] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-17-252.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:28] what's the ptpoh man that sounds delicious [20:28] gigE, luckee [20:28] we have 40GB of connectivity [20:28] most of our connections are 10Gbps each [20:28] at liquidweb. [20:28] a few of them are 1Gbps [20:29] i dont care about that, what matters is what you pay for PTP [20:29] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:29] you only have gigE from office to liquidweb, so who cares about the 40 gigs [20:29] plus, every company says they have 40gbit. it's geting annoying [20:29] lol its gig e all the way to the other end [20:29] so that's just gigE, not 40gbit ;D [20:30] its 40Gbps of combined bandwidth [20:30] at liquidweb. [20:30] no [20:30] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:30] thats TO adn FROM the internet [20:30] you have 40gbit from your office to liquidweb? [20:30] we have about 20Gbps outbound traffic at all times [20:30] the office IS liquid web [20:30] so you work for liquidweb? [20:30] yes [20:30] oh. [20:30] :p [20:30] thought you were ptp'ing your [20:30] oh no no [20:31] :P [20:31] something business to chicago [20:31] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:31] im their senior network engineer :p [20:31] wow 2.6.35 released [20:31] hook me up with a U [20:31] wish i could, i can't even get free space [20:31] bastards :P [20:31] pff, senior network engineer? you can't find empty space? PFF [20:31] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] although they would never know if i threw some stuff on the rack [20:31] janitor! [20:31] lol [20:31] darin (~kvirc@pool-72-82-100-238.nrflva.btas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] i use up all the empty space with our routers, haha [20:32] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:32] i think what i'll do is [20:32] i dunno, as far as getting dsl or cable, not sure yet [20:32] but i'll pick one, test voip for a month or two, listen to the complaints [20:32] nn gang :-) [20:32] if it dont work out, i'll get landlines [20:32] sahko: stable? [20:32] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:32] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: ...And thanks for all the fish! [20:33] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:33] we don't really have those problems with our voip system& we own our own fiber ring and our voip system runs on a dedicated 1Gbps line [20:33] pupit: yea [20:33] its not even muxed on to the internet traffic physical connections [20:33] meh landlines are for the weak :D [20:33] bite me gniks. [20:33] lol [20:34] i bet i have better connections at one wilshire than liquidweb :D [20:34] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:34] what are you using for your PBX? [20:34] very possible [20:34] more than possible, you obviously never heard of one wilshire :) [20:34] nope lol [20:34] i was running, well still am.. freeswitch but i'm tired of doing everything manually so i'm migrating over to trixbox. [20:34] they won't buy me an OTDR so i can't even tell you the length of our connections [20:34] fun [20:34] one wilshire i guess now it's coresite LA or something but the building rules [20:35] i have no idea what an OTDR is [20:35] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:35] its a fancy fiber tester :P [20:35] tells you where there are breaks, bends, impurities, connectors, lengths, light levels, core reflections, etc.. of the fiber run [20:35] i love softlayers network man [20:35] oh god [20:35] sotflayer can fucking kiss my ass [20:36] let me tell you a story [20:36] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:36] lol [20:36] one day, we had a full 1Gbps coming inbound from their datacenter over Level3 on our OC48 connectoin [20:36] which that connection was already at 50% utilization [20:36] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [20:36] so they were staurating it [20:36] saturating* [20:37] i called them up, they woudln't let me speak to their security team, or their network team [20:37] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:37] put in a ticket, and STILL didn't get any information out of them [20:37] also, they don't have redundant systems (at least last i checked) [20:38] anyway, they have NO concern for the wellbeing on the collective internet and could care less if they are running up the bill of another company and promoting illegal operations [20:38] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:38] heh [20:38] thats my story - the end [20:38] ok pardon my ignorance but i had no idea that i could even max out 100mbit from east to west until i did it over softlayer [20:38] lol [20:38] and i bet it'd max out the entire gigE link if i could get this turd to turn my interface up to a gigabit [20:38] lots of flows my friend [20:38] i had never seen it man [20:39] their trace goes straight to the other datacenter from seattle to NC [20:39] they have more than 1Gbps Level3 connections [20:39] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:39] they have their own lines now [20:39] they seem to be moving up in the world [20:39] that's why i said i like their network [20:39] LW has had their own systems since the beginning [20:39] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] although i dunno why im talking up LW, i don't work for htem anymore :p [20:40] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:40] i quite in march to pursue better jobs in NYC [20:41] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:41] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7C497.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:42] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:42] lw ? [20:42] lw is short for liquid web [20:43] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:43] oh [20:43] :p [20:44] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:44] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:44] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-26-68.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:44] screw jitter [20:45] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:45] lol [20:45] whats your jitter like? [20:45] i told you it's not set up yet i dnuno [20:45] lol [20:46] can't ping something on their side for a while to get an "idea"? [20:46] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:46] they dont have internet yet! [20:46] there's a guy there with a t1, he's their friend [20:46] he wouldn't even dedicate 128kbps to me [20:46] he's using it for important shit [20:46] i'm like you idiot, why dont you get a second one, you guy shave an important business [20:47] i mean, anything in time warners network& look up some of their IP space and see if anything pings :p [20:47] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:47] haha yeah, crazy people think their stuff is more important :p [20:47] i got a system up but it's not online now, it's a lot closer though [20:47] no it's veyr important [20:47] its too important to hvae a single t1 on [20:48] you need redundancy ? [20:48] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:48] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:48] eh, if it goes down i can send the calls to cell phone lol [20:48] lol [20:48] just cant hvae it go down more than an hour, you know [20:49] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:49] yeah [20:49] you guys have a trunk im presuming? [20:49] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [20:50] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:50] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:50] i have a lot [20:51] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:51] hah nice [20:51] j0z (~UNIX@189.115.83.28) joined ##slackware. [20:51] j0z (~UNIX@189.115.83.28) left irc: Changing host [20:51] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:52] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:52] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [20:52] My fortune when I logged in just now was "You definitely intend to start living sometime soon". [20:53] :P [20:53] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:53] haha [20:53] yeah, laugh riot [20:54] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:54] heh [20:54] I hate when the fortunes ring true. It's so depressing. [20:55] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:55] who pays attention to fortunes [20:56] the quotes by Dave Barry are funny [20:56] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:56] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:57] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [20:57] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:57] j0z (~UNIX@189.114.239.188.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:57] j0z (~UNIX@189.114.239.188.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [20:57] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. 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[21:08] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:09] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:10] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:10] what is this 91.145.195.61:37631 74.125.43.125:5222 ESTABLISHED 3249/google-chrome? i do not use jabber [21:10] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:11] justin` (~justin`@unaffiliated/justin) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:11] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:13] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [21:13] am0rphis: that says google-chrome, not jabber [21:13] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] chrome spyware [21:14] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:14] google chrome phone home [21:15] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:15] hey, i have set up default acl mask of rwx on a direcotry but when creating a file in that directory the mask is not respected (my normal mask of 022 is applied) [21:15] why is that? [21:15] man umask [21:15] onyot (~jun@112.201.187.41) joined ##slackware. [21:16] default umask 922 is set in /etc/profile [21:16] 022 even [21:16] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:16] onyot (~jun@112.201.187.41) left irc: Client Quit [21:16] popl, cat /etc/services |grep 5222 . where is tour google now? [21:16] but i thought that if i set default mask for a directory using acl my umask will be overwritten [21:17] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:17] this defeats the whole purpose of acls [21:17] the mask just stops all the special permissions i have given to users by acls [21:17] s/tour/your [21:17] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.187.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:18] am0rphis: You mean XMPP? [21:18] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:18] :P [21:18] lpx (~lpx@c-76-126-82-84.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:19] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:19] am0rphis: Google Chrome likes to call home and I wouldn't be surprised if it used XMPP to do it. [21:19] grep 5222 /etc/services does show XMPP. [21:20] I am curious as to how it does it though. [21:20] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:20] not so much how but why it uses xmpp port would be my question [21:20] iptables -A OUTPUT -d 74.125.43.125 -p tcp --dport 5222 -j DROP :d [21:20] justin` (~justin`@unaffiliated/justin) joined ##slackware. [21:21] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:21] no more jibber jabber [21:21] alisonken1home: it could be using xmpp [21:21] xmpp doesn't *need* to be real time [21:22] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:22] doesn't even need to be xmpp - remember ports are specified by the program, not always the service [21:22] I'm using chrome but don't see anything in netstat for it [21:22] not xmmp anyway [21:23] rirombo (~user@h86.181.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:23] s/xmmp/xmpp [21:23] netstat -anpAinet |grep google [21:23] tcp 0 0 91.145.195.61:33952 74.125.43.125:5222 ESTABLISHED 8416/google-chrome :( [21:23] I love the smell of condescension in the morning :P [21:24] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:24] Apparently recompiling urxvt with the updated version of X did not solve the whole emacs not updating deal :( [21:24] alisonken1home: I couldn't forget that. :P [21:24] heh [21:25] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:26] does Chrome have a built-in messaging client? [21:26] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:26] like Buzz or whatever it's called? [21:26] nope [21:26] unless there's an extension for it [21:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:27] ah, found it [21:28] guess where that IP:PORT resolve to: http://www.google.com/talk/ [21:28] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:28] yeah [21:28] Google is using XMPP to synchronize browser data with Google accounts [21:28] http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/08/google-chromes-browser-sync.html [21:28] :\ [21:29] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:29] am0rphis: I hear Chromium is Chrome sans creepyware [21:29] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:29] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:31] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:31] gabriel_ (1000@201.215.50.22) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:32] Action: am0rphis paranoic [21:32] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:33] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:33] matrix__ (~matrix@host-65-173-59-37.acelerate.net) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [21:33] am0rphis: that's good because people are watching you [21:34] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:34] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:35] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:37] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:37] i disable it and have no connection to jabber :\ [21:37] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:37] you said you don't use jabber [21:38] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:40] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [21:40] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:41] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [21:41] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. 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[22:19] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-145-88.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:20] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:20] tbh, ubuntu is the successful implementation of several distributions [22:21] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:21] s/of several distribution/of the dream of several distribution teams [22:21] s/of several distributions/of the dream of several distribution teams/ even [22:21] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-14.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:22] Ubuntu 10.04 wasn't that great. Had some problems and was generally bloaty on 512mb. Opted the user to slack/gsb. [22:23] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:23] byteframe: i didn't mean it was great, i meant it was a successful "user friendly" distribution of linux [22:23] Oh yes, I praise it's success. [22:24] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:24] and thats why i said its windoze in linux clothing [22:24] its toooo user friendly [22:24] Yeah, okay dude. [22:24] KaMii: what about pc-bsd? [22:24] KaMii: that's pretty friendly' [22:24] never looked at it [22:24] KaMii: so is fedora [22:24] and thats bsd not linux [22:24] its unix [22:24] KDE is the closest thing to windows in the linux sphere. [22:25] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:25] byteframe: agreed [22:25] Action: nyRednek isn't running kde [22:25] Action: KaMii isnt running kde either [22:25] I'm a GNOME man, but I still find KDE horrid. [22:25] xfce is nice. [22:25] xfce ftw [22:26] i still like fvwm [22:26] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:26] byteframe: kde4 or kde3? [22:26] kde4, kde3 wasn't as bad, visually anyways. [22:26] kde3 was awesome, then 4 happened [22:26] It's vista on meth. [22:26] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:26] the one thing i wish i could do with fvwm on slack, implement the directories of the application menu debian-style [22:26] With SBo, xfce can be just as good as GNOME, too. [22:27] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:27] nyRednek, you run fvwm? [22:27] s/fvwm/window managers/ [22:27] byteframe: yah [22:27] That's weird. [22:28] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:28] i looked at fvwm but it seemed that it was going to take me ages to get it setup to the way i wanted it... dont like screwing around too much with a stupid gui, i just want a simple one thats mostly configured, thats why i use xfce [22:29] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:29] fvwm unlike most of the stuff you're familiar with is VERY configurable and hackable [22:29] ya its super configurable and that is good, if you want to spend the time messing with it [22:30] but personally right now, i have better things to do [22:30] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:30] clearly [22:30] thrice`: ++ [22:30] obviously bashing ubuntu has top priority [22:30] KaMii: let's put it this way, i've used roughly the same fvwm2rc for years(had to remember how i edited the default a few times, but yeah) [22:30] ballcutter (~ballcutte@h-98-105-191-30.ip.alltel.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:31] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:31] it does sahko [22:31] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-14.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:31] tbh, i can make ubuntu work for me [22:31] i don't like its package management, but other than that, i see little difference between it and slack after it has been set up [22:31] ya but the way I work, if I use a highly configurable wm, i will want to change my settings every other week.... cuz thas just how i am [22:32] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:32] KaMii: highly configurable wm's: icewm, fvwm, afterstep [22:32] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:32] yes i know [22:33] eh...fluxbox [22:33] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:33] and windowmaker [22:33] I don't know what'd I'd choose if I lost gnome or xfce. It'd be one of the *box, I don't think I could ever like window maker or fvwm,. [22:33] among them, the ones i like best: fvwm, afterstep [22:33] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-145-88.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [22:34] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:34] well thats whats nice about linux, we have tons of choices on a wm that works for our personal needs [22:35] KaMii: if anything, this is a love fest [22:35] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:35] Action: KaMii is not getting in a love fest with you guys [22:35] KaMii: i don't bash someone else on their choices [22:36] i wasnt either [22:36] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:36] KaMii: but i do like that the older ones are still choices available...try using the original program manager on windows 7 [22:36] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [22:36] What is windows 7? [22:36] KaMii: the statement wasn't an accusation [22:36] byteframe: its a virus you pay for [22:36] They made a new one after vistah? [22:37] byteframe: yep - came out a couple of months ago [22:37] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:37] Gross. [22:37] even with vista, try using program manager as your gui shell [22:37] toolbear (~root@66.97.106.23) joined ##slackware. [22:37] you must have missed the memo - the one that's been in commercials for the last couple of months [22:37] ya... it came out awhile ago, i beta tested windoze 7 [22:37] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:38] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:38] i know win2k had program manager, but i don't think xp even had it [22:38] hello. how do you make a shared library show up in the output of "ldconfig -p", if you have that library in an unusual directory and you don't want to move it? [22:38] add the directory in /etc/ld.so.conf [22:38] then run ldd as root [22:39] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:39] alisonken1home, I don't have a TV. [22:39] just make sure it doesn't interfere with an existing library unless you're testing [22:39] byteframe: ads are not restricted to TV :) - most webpages now have ads as well [22:39] AdBlock. [22:39] I will not be peddled to. [22:39] and "explorer" has changed so much that even if you liked one version's shell, you aren't guaranteed to like the next version's [22:40] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:40] byteframe: do you ever leave your house, the adds are all over the city [22:40] Has anyone else noticed a problem with the latest hdparm update to -current and the ability to set acoustic modes on SATA disks? [22:40] I think there is a regression [22:40] and don't get me wrong, i'm not bashing windows, but some consistency, and some choice, would be nice [22:41] antiwire, yep, I get an I/O error [22:41] thrice`: same here :/ [22:41] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:41] nyRednek: the more choices the less user friendly, so its never gonna happen with windoze [22:41] nyRednek: didn't you read the memo from Balmer? Windows is Windows - you don't need to learn anything when upgrading :) [22:42] any idea what music player is at the white laptop? (bottom right) --> http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/exciting.jpg [22:42] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:42] it's so hard to convey sarcasm on IRC... [22:42] except in that case [22:42] :) [22:42] KaMii: even if those choices need to be sought out(power users), they should exist on some level [22:42] sukaeto (~sukaeto@pool-173-49-229-225.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Why can't I just eat my waffle? [22:42] nyRednek: and that will cause how many MORE blue screens of death? [22:43] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:43] KaMii: and i don't mean by screwing over the OS to add another graphical shell [22:43] sukaeto (~sukaeto@pool-173-49-229-225.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] if micro$oft fixed their stability, then I would be happier with them [22:43] mannynix: cmus maybe? [22:43] Why not just avoid windows because it's proprietary software? [22:43] GooseYAr1: Ty, will check it out [22:43] mannynix: ncmpc [22:43] KaMii: maybe in a few years, we may have such choices with reactos [22:43] oh, thanks [22:43] i am a huge fan of console mp3 players [22:43] I'd place my hopes on Wine. [22:44] ive been trying all kinds of them [22:44] nyRednek: your overly optimistic about micro$oft [22:44] byteframe: that didn't stop me in the 90s when i supported and used sco boxes [22:44] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:44] KaMii: reactos isn't microsoft [22:44] GooseYAr1: you dont know how to distinguish between them though:p [22:44] sahko: hehe nope [22:44] I'm happy with gogglesmm for now [22:44] oh sorry missed the reactos line, but reactos is not going to get off the ground IMO [22:45] ive been using mocp and cmus, i think mocp is my favorite [22:45] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:45] KaMii: it has gotten slightly better with each release [22:45] Reactos, since it uses lots of wine anyways, always seemed redundant to me. [22:45] i didnt know it was still in development [22:45] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [22:45] wait, reactos is wine faking a windoze gui? [22:45] Hello all! [22:46] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:46] KaMii: actually, no, it has an open source win32 kernel/abi [22:46] Can anyone give me a good reason why my iptables -t nat rules all of a sudden would stop working? [22:46] reactos is wine with a clone of the windows kernel, as I understand. [22:46] btw thrice` ncmpc is outdated. please fix [22:47] sounds like a waste of time to develop [22:47] but it *does* use a lot of wine [22:47] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:47] who wants an opensource windoze clone when we have wine [22:47] my first drunk was Lancer's White Wine [22:47] KaMii: tbh, it's lighter than linux in some instances [22:47] KaMii: now if we could have an os/2 api implemented in linux, that'd be fun [22:48] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:48] ya but why clone an already unstable OS? [22:48] KaMii: especially considering that ibm is working to push linux [22:48] os/2???? is that still alive? [22:48] KaMii: maybe to improve it? [22:48] KaMii: ecomstation [22:49] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:49] how can you improve a sinking ship? [22:49] KaMii: by patching the holes in it? [22:49] sahko, use ncmpc++ like the rest of the world :> [22:50] KaMii: then pumping the water out of the hold? [22:50] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:50] mannynix: might be herrie... remember seeing a mention here http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/30/audio-players-for-the-console/ on comparison of console music players [22:51] KaMii: make bigger holes so it goes down faster? [22:51] i just see windoze as a sinking that ship that micro$oft is in an always losing battle trying to save it [22:51] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:51] So you bash ubuntu? [22:51] that was a one liner joke that i said an hour ago [22:51] And reactos is a 'waste of thyme'? [22:52] byteframe: no, i don't really bash ubuntu...i don't use it, but don't necessarily bash it [22:52] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:52] nyRednek, I didn't mean you. [22:52] MLanden: ty for URL, interesting [22:52] i'd like it if wine improved its api support for windows apps...have several that don't work [22:52] byteframe: these are just my opinions [22:53] KaMii, they aren't really insightful opinions, in my opinion. [22:53] nyRednek: that's an MS issue :) [22:53] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:53] mannynix: np...for console,I prefer mocp..but it's nice to know there are alternatives..;) [22:53] since when did an opinion have to be insightful? [22:53] alisonken1home: heh, not when the programs worked in windows 95 but not in the latest wine [22:53] its opinion, [22:53] MLanden: yeah :) [22:53] dont like me, use the iggy button [22:54] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:54] nyRednek: what programs are you having troubles with in wine? [22:54] alisonken1home: there's a desktop publishing app i loved, called micrografx windows draw [22:54] alisonken1home, you just conjured up a memory of boon's farm wine [22:54] heh [22:54] KaMii: also, palm desktop doesn't play nice [22:54] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: rally 'round the family. Pocket full o'shells [22:54] KaMii: along with adobe acrobat reader for palm(makes pdb's for hotsyncing) [22:55] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:55] well palm i think is walking away from their desktop and going to windoze [22:56] KaMii: actually, no [22:56] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:56] KaMii: they're using webos(linux-based) [22:56] shonudo: lol...or it's notorious bro...T-Bird...(eww) [22:56] hey MLanden... [22:56] T-Bird... damn [22:56] there's another memory i'd forgotten on purpose [22:56] oh i thought they were done with palm desktop [22:56] heya shonudo [22:57] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:57] shonudo: but which week of T-Bird? that's the question :) [22:57] KaMii: they are... [22:57] they waited weeks to ship? [22:57] KaMii: they're also done with the motorola cold fire platform [22:57] i thought it was by a particular hour of the previous day [22:57] "shipped fresh for you immediate enjoyment" [22:58] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:58] KaMii: old palmos was made for extremely low memory situations [22:58] MLanden, what in the world made you think of T-Bird? [22:59] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [22:59] zaltekk` (~zaltekk@71-15-84-157.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:59] zaltekk (~zaltekk@71-15-84-157.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:00] Does anyone have any ideas about why Emacs running on rxvt-unicode doesn't update the screen properly (when switchibg buffers, some lines from the first buffer remain, etc.)? It seems to have been caused by my upgrading X yesterday.. [23:00] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:00] hey rirombo... [23:00] is there are "wrap" setting you need to include for that? [23:00] shonudo: you were speakin' 'bout Boone...remember friends who lived by the stuff back in high school [23:00] (just guessing) [23:01] Nick change: zaltekk` -> zaltekk [23:01] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:01] MLanden, alisonken1home: both of you have now revived the memory of MD 20/20... [23:01] aka MadDog 20/20 [23:01] and that's as far back as i care to go [23:01] shonudo: that stuff is nice [23:01] shonudo: Hi! :) [23:01] they don't call it MadDog for nothing :) [23:01] even the memory of it is bound to cause a hangover from hell [23:02] shonudo: beats the hell out of night train [23:02] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:02] lol http://www.bumwine.com/ [23:02] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721135528] [23:03] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:03] rirombo: restate the problem you're having (i think it was lost in a sea of bad wine) [23:03] rirombo: have you tried asking in #rxvt-unicode? [23:04] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:04] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:04] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-48-184.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:09] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:09] shonudo: I thought hal/udev is supposed to find the hardware, probably better than I could? [23:10] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:10] And I don't know all the changes. I just needed an updated intel driver, since the one in 13.1 was misbehaving with my card. [23:10] artaud (1000@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [23:10] what does hardware detection have to do with EMACS? [23:11] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:11] Nothing; that was the reason I wasn't using xorg.conf :) [23:11] ive never used emacs but ive heard its like a complete OS [23:11] does lots of stuff [23:12] nah, emacs and notepad are about the same [23:12] tank-man: Indeed. I'm using an IRC client that's running inside of Emacs :) [23:12] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:12] tank-man: http://xkcd.com/378/ [23:12] wait huh??? emacs and notepad are the same???? since when? [23:12] I suppose I could also ask on #emacs, since it seems like emacs is the only one having trouble with urxvt [23:13] heh [23:13] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:15] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [23:15] KaMii: since god invented irony [23:16] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:16] artaud (1000@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:16] the current xkcd is hilarious. and 100% true [23:16] well maybe not hilarious but still true [23:16] sahko: indeed. :) [23:17] Refused telnet@phra.gs (invalid handle: g0v) [23:24] Last message repeated 7 time(s). [23:24] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. 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