[00:00] Happy New Year everyone on the east coast. [00:00] hi fire|bird [00:00] hi fredoslack [00:00] happy bonne année 20010 :) [00:00] fire|bird: likewise, my friend. [00:00] 2010 * sorry [00:01] thumbs, good year 2010 !!! [00:01] hey thumbs, how's it going? [00:01] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.17.233) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:02] fire|bird: so-so. [00:02] man if I'm alive in 20010... [00:02] they better have floating cars [00:02] haha [00:02] lol [00:07] fire|bird: more bad than good, I guess. [00:08] thumbs: eek, hope things get to be more good than bad soon. :) [00:12] ComputerNewbie (n=peter@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] good [00:13] year, everybody [00:13] feliz ano nuevo! [00:13] i haz retarnd frem werk! [00:13] Delahunt (n=robert@Y050160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:13] not that anyone cares. [00:14] but happy new year. May this one bring more bling to the neck, dough in the pockets and more effient bottom b!tches! :D [00:15] agris (n=agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [00:15] If i had bottom bitches like butters, i would be complete. [00:18] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [00:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@68-30-33-118.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:29] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:35] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:37] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] fire|bird: wow.. soo looks like us and a few others are the out casts that aren't invited to any party's tonight.. [00:41] agentc0re: hahaha, guess so. :P [00:42] 261 outcasts [00:42] dchmelik: pfft.. there's always about that amount of outcasts in here. [00:43] i thought the outcasts would not be in the channel altogether [00:43] My first new years resolution is to go into work tomorrow and break active directory. [00:43] Err i mean fix it. [00:43] :P [00:43] lol [00:43] fhobia: outcasts of the party's we weren't invited to [00:44] err i mean that we totally passed up to hang out here. [00:44] oh, yeah..yeah!! [00:44] :google "How to tie a noose" [00:44] :P [00:45] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:46] hi guys, how would i go about changing the default desktop environment? [00:47] xwmconfig [00:47] antiwire: lol. you were silently waiting for that, weren't you? [00:48] lol [00:48] responded like a mole popping up in a wack a mole game. [00:48] hi guys, how would i go about changing the default desktop environment? [00:48] xwmconfig [00:48] We should start responding as if we're in jeopardy. [00:48] antiwire, thanks! how come it gives a funny message if you run it as root? [00:49] what is xwmconfig [00:49] I'm sorry, than answer is What is xwmconfig [00:49] what is the funny message ? [00:49] oh wait [00:49] its my user settings [00:49] keres: if you are running kdm, which you probably are, you can also change it then(this is init4) before you login. [00:50] nevermind [00:50] lol [00:50] agentc0re, with switch user? i drop kdm whenever i log out... [00:50] here ill be back [00:50] one sec [00:50] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:50] should introduce screen to this guy [00:51] fhobia: well why don't you just have him/her starting using emacs while you're at it. [00:51] First rule of screen club; don't talk about screen. [00:51] nooooo [00:51] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] there we are [00:51] this is better :) [00:52] what are you using now ? [00:52] xfce [00:53] xfce is great. imo it sticks to a pretty good KISS philosophy when it comes to WM's of that grade. [00:53] lol [00:53] well i feel it's a hell of a lot less buggy than kde [00:53] BP{k}: wow, nice you caught him totally off guard. http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1820 hahaha [00:53] buggy than kde [00:54] hmm [00:54] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:54] why is my keyboard messing uppppp hmmmmm [00:54] pebkac [00:54] ill try restarting xchat, i think thats it [00:54] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:54] kde4 is still really buggy [00:54] hard to believe this is considered usable for slack :-/ [00:54] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Action: antiwire plays the saddest song ever on the smalled violin ever.... [00:55] because kde3 was ditched in development? right? [00:55] hmm lets try this [00:55] there we go! [00:55] oh yeah, thats true [00:55] i changed my dpi settings [00:55] not that i'm using kde :-P [00:55] and it messed with some programs that were running at the time [00:55] see now I typo-ed a snide comment. I loose. [00:55] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:55] lol [00:56] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] ... [00:56] this is a bit odd [00:56] must be on to windowmaker by now [00:56] i'm trying to change my DPI so my text is a bit bigger.. [00:56] but it doesn't change the size of the text inside xchat [00:56] it does in the server browser [00:57] and similar dialogs [00:57] found the text size [00:57] lol [00:57] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1815 lmao!! [00:57] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] It's Motoko-chan! Everyone say hi to Motoko-chan! [00:58] ... [00:58] where? [00:59] what the..is this all ##slackware quotes [00:59] fhobia: not all of it. Some are from a bunch of cake eaters in other channels [00:59] fhobia: you don't know what noobfarm is? [00:59] nope, it seems like bash.org clone [00:59] fhobia: you do see the irony in this question, right? [01:00] o_o [01:00] So ironic, in fact, that it just may end up being posted. [01:00] i don't know it is not as good as the "Clit Eatswood" snippet [01:01] Agiofws (n=nnAgiofw@athedsl-430072.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:01] like a death row pardon two minutes too late [01:01] lmao!! [01:01] like ten thousand spoons when all you need if a knife? [01:02] a free ride when you've already paid [01:02] like a plane crash when you've waited your whole life? [01:02] Like the neighborhood bicycle, everyone's had a ride. [01:02] a no smoking sign on your cigarette break [01:03] This conversation has actually cheered me up. [01:03] Thank you. [01:03] antiwire: I'm going to go ahead and agree with you to make it feel more gay. [01:03] HAPPY NEWYEAR [01:03] lol [01:04] harpy blue ears? [01:04] today was a horrible day. i have to figure out wtf i am going to do with two dc's, the only two, that are completely malfunctioning beyond compare. [01:04] I spent all last night and all day today fixing a network that was severely damaged by a power surge [01:04] Delahunt (n=robert@ZD079141.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [01:05] ick [01:05] if i had the choice, i'd wouldn't do either. [01:06] If you're domain problems I feel bad for you son. I've got 99 problems and a domain ain't one! [01:06] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-72-126-110.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:07] For all those living in 2010: http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/79ccfa5e152a7775d691b038a6b0471c.jpg [01:07] dc? [01:08] antiwire: to keep the cheer going. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY6hwNA6kY8&feature=sub [01:08] "No gang-bangs this year?" LOL [01:10] that looks like venice beach [01:10] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@2001:7a8:34d5:0:0:0:0:159) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:10] antiwire: it is. hehe. [01:11] HAPPY NEW YEARS 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:11] an hour late ;p [01:11] antiwire: are you close to there? [01:12] thankfully no [01:12] i'm about 60 miles north [01:12] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.30.238) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:12] this one was the best: Like the neighborhood bicycle, everyone's had a ride. [01:16] i'm not sure my neighborhood that that bicycle [01:16] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:17] s/that/has/ [01:17] Well of course not, you can't fit a neighborhood on a single bike! [01:17] not going to post that one, agentc0re [01:17] sorry [01:23] ComputerNewbie (n=peter@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:24] giuppy (n=giuppy@host140-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:25] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@2001:7a8:34d5:0:0:0:0:3) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [01:35] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@2001:7a8:34d5:0:0:0:0:3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:38] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:39] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@2001:7a8:34d5:0:0:0:0:3) joined ##slackware. [01:39] Songs so awesome, you can't even hear them! [01:43] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [01:46] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:46] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [01:47] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [01:48] what song? [01:49] raela (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-024.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.76.77.94) joined ##slackware. [01:53] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:55] hello [01:57] haha. I forget I fake all my birthdays to 01/01/1901 [01:57] Happy Birthday email from $WEBSITE! [01:58] I think the internet has fucked me up [01:59] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:59] s/up// [02:00] agentc0re: congrats for being the inventor of the internet. [02:00] Happy New Year! [02:00] whoa, WTF? stupid pidgin. [02:00] lol [02:00] yeah it's me. muhahah [02:00] time to find the auto insert happy new year setting.. [02:01] Yeah you know what i'm going to fix that pidgin "feature" aka bullshit [02:02] damn, running k3b leaves all sorts of kde4 bs running [02:02] Action: mrselfpwn sticks ten fireworks in his mouth. [02:02] which will go off? [02:02] i only run k3b when i have more friends coming over for drinks than i have coasters [02:03] tick tock [02:03] - 1 [02:03] Action: mrselfpwn loves reruns of Burn Notice. [02:03] mancha: ...hehehe good one [02:04] OMFG... you'll never guess what setting auto inserted the damn happy new year antiwire. [02:04] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.77.160) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:04] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:05] the question is, do i tell you or wait an hour and see you go bonkers... unless you find it. [02:06] Oh I have it [02:06] irssi/irssi.c: pref = purple_plugin_pref_new_with_name_and_label(SENDNEWYEAR_PREF, _("Happy New Year Message")); [02:06] Ya, the irssi plugin. Of all plugins. [02:06] mancha is only alive becuese [02:07] agentc0re: happy newyear [02:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [02:07] mrselfpwn: The same to you. [02:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [02:08] good move on my part [02:08] antiwire: not going take chances, are we? :) [02:08] lol [02:09] grub2 seems pretty cool so far [02:09] mrself, huh? [02:09] mancha is only alive becuese [02:10] you know [02:10] great misconception of resources [02:11] no, i think thats why he's asking. [02:11] your call [02:12] maybe it's better you are assigened that positioned. [02:12] -ed [02:12] ? [02:13] did anyone else receive the new year crack that mrselfpwn got? [02:13] are you gonna credit me for discovering the moonrock too? (insert idiot here) [02:13] idiot == agentc0re [02:13] Action: fire|bird ducks [02:14] s/(insert idiot here)/mrselfpwn/ [02:14] fire|bird: ahh wtf. [02:14] fire|bird: :D [02:14] lol [02:15] so we are all still just as dumb as we started [02:16] nothing here folks [02:16] speak for yourself. :P [02:16] er [02:16] seriously, wtf are you on? [02:16] love? [02:17] he made a lot more sense after i piped him through rot13 [02:17] lol [02:17] Ah, that's why you aren't making any sense. [02:17] yea [02:17] maybe not [02:17] maybe I like all of you too much. [02:17] Put the lotion down... :P [02:17] This jacked up world does not run off popping hearts and unicorns. [02:17] go f*ck yourself [02:18] ^^ [02:18] antiwire: lmao!! [02:18] oh man this is great. [02:18] best new years EVA! [02:18] hehe kdeinit4 runs with the --suicide flag [02:18] Action: mrselfpwn thinks agentc0re and antiwire are the same person. [02:19] mrselfpwn: you're not the first. [02:19] ^^ [02:19] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [02:19] anyway [02:19] fhobia: haha, that's kinda funny. [02:19] fun ttmes [02:20] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "I shall now snooze for the first time in this new year :o" [02:20] http://www.texastravesty.com/node/657 [02:20] fun fact, kde (with all the frills) is 28% of the full slackware install, almost one-third [02:20] mrselfpwn is clearly in the other 71% [02:20] ihaha [02:21] mancha: where does emacs live? [02:21] ihaha? Apple's laugh machine? [02:21] agent, in hell! in "e" [02:21] it's anti [02:21] emacs represts 1.6% of the full slackware install [02:21] bah! as far as % for install? [02:21] ah [02:21] ;D [02:21] fire|bird: wouldn't it be more fitting as the iHA? [02:22] probably [02:22] fire|bird: what is iHa? [02:22] hmm? [02:23] some dutch hackers were able to jailbreak iHaha v1 [02:24] they used prozac? [02:24] lol 51% are painfully aware. [02:24] haha [02:24] prozac and some ky-jelly [02:25] mancha: sounds like a 1 man party to me [02:25] still a sausage fest, imo. [02:27] Balsaq (n=Balsaq@unaffiliated/balsaq) joined ##slackware. [02:29] i'll never know sadly [02:30] great thing is, I have good communication between synapsis' [02:31] all two of them [02:31] heh [02:31] so it would seem [02:32] Balsaq (n=Balsaq@unaffiliated/balsaq) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:38] did I mention there is a Burn Notice merithon? [02:40] scrote (n=RahmboDe@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:42] is slitux based on slackware? [02:42] ;) [02:43] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] reason I ask is because, i'd like to make a recovery disk that has anti-viri support built in. [02:46] slitux? [02:46] link? [02:46] yes [02:48] i'd just like a live cd that is small, that's based on Slackware, and I can add [02:48] anti-virus utils to. [02:51] mrselfpwn, there's always the kaspersky antivirus live cd [02:52] it's decent [02:52] but yeah i'd wish they all used slackware too lol [02:52] ComputerNewbie (n=peter@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] checkout ubcd [02:53] after copying this slackware virtualmachine from my other computer to this one, its internet doesnt work, anyone know how i can fix this? [02:53] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [02:58] thing is i'd never hoped for this [03:00] I came come after talking to my mom with garlend everywhere, [03:00] in the mean time, I had made a christmas girft for my self,.... [03:02] screw holiday seasons, so it all seemed to work well. LoL. [03:02] (is my christmast story) [03:04] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:04] I wish I had more children with less legs though I don't. [03:05] Or two children sharing one set up legs. [03:05] s/up/of [03:06] yeah [03:07] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [03:11] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-122.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:12] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@2001:7a8:34d5:0:0:0:0:3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:14] after copying this slackware virtualmachine from my other computer to this one, its internet doesnt work, anyone know how i can fix this? [03:14] oops... [03:20] MikeJSee (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [03:32] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [03:33] anyone running lighttpd on slackaware? i can't seem to get it to work [03:33] what messes up? [03:34] when i type in the url i get a 404 error. here is my lighttpd.conf http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/TUfEtm36.html [03:34] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) left irc: "z" [03:34] hey everyone, i'm trying to start a new endeavour, and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. i'd like server A to have usernames/passwords, and i'd like clients B C and D to login using usernames off server A and not the local machines.. if someone could tell me what this action is called, it would be appreciated. [03:35] mancha, any ideas? [03:35] can you pastebin.com and not slackadelic it? [03:37] ok, http://pastebin.com/m3b6abcd5 [03:37] Mike, have you considered radius? [03:38] also look into LDAP [03:38] radius and LDAP [03:39] thank you very much, mancha. [03:39] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [03:40] welcome [03:41] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.47) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:42] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.164) joined ##slackware. [03:43] happy new year! [03:43] Happy New Year x-ip [03:43] got it working: [03:43] :D [03:43] same to 2 fire|bird [03:43] thanks [03:44] Action: x-ip keeps tasting the scotch wisky from jhonny walkers, black edition [03:45] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [03:45] back. good you got it working, what was the pebkac? [03:47] well lighttpd works, but not wtorrent yet [03:48] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [03:48] mancha: i've read about those two options you mentioned, and i think that idea is still a bit out of my reach :(. i appreciate the information though. thanks again. [03:55] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-122.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:57] MikeJSee (n=mike@S0106001c1012075c.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:04] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:06] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-222-11.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [04:11] Karl_Koch (n=Karl@dynamic-adsl-94-37-212-136.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [04:19] urthwrm (n=hooch@124-170-214-139.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:20] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:21] hey pentium M is 686 right? (pentium III core) [04:22] yeah nevermind [04:24] Delahunt (n=robert@ZD079141.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [04:29] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:29] alice (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:30] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:31] Karl_Koch (n=Karl@dynamic-adsl-94-37-212-136.clienti.tiscali.it) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [04:34] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30BA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [04:35] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [04:38] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Happy New Year in 2010 everyone!! [04:39] hello All. A have choosed KDE during install slackware, but how can i try to start another WM ? [04:40] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:41] wmconfig [04:41] mancha: hm.. command not found [04:41] Links2 (n=Ctrl@shpd-95-53-147-64.vologda.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:41] hrmm, maybe that's not it, hold on [04:41] xwmconfig [04:42] morning folks *Yawn* [04:42] apropos wmconfig [04:42] antiwire: yes, xwmconfig, thanks [04:43] there you go [04:43] but, maybe there's any method to just start another WM with no config change? [04:43] something like "starticewm" instead of "startx" // [04:44] no. [04:44] ok, thanks. [04:46] where is that pic about Ubuntu 'Do you want me to wipe, too?' [04:46] hehehe [04:50] Axius (n=ade@92.84.30.236) joined ##slackware. [04:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [04:54] Happy new year everyone! :-) [04:55] happy new year, jescis [04:55] jescis: Happy [04:58] Axius (n=ade@92.84.30.236) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:05] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[06:07] bandie9100 (n=sysop@91.82.225.54) joined ##slackware. [06:07] hello all [06:08] bandie9100, hi [06:08] :) [06:08] greetings and happy new year :) [06:09] greetings to you all also [06:09] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-004-165.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:09] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-004-165.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:10] well as in my fatherland is it said: buék [06:11] i should scribe a slackware installation without to see the target machine [06:11] so i have to ask [06:13] o.O [06:18] goarilla: happy newyear [06:19] hello All.. Trying to install mpd and ncmpcpp, and ncmpcpp tells me that it need libmpdclient2 :( i can't find this library.. where should i look for? thanx.. [06:19] happy new years from Hawaii [06:19] Xeliaa heppy new year back from Saint-Petersburg :) [06:20] hour late but i just got home hehe... [06:20] 1:19am [06:23] dimon, sounds like you need to build libmpdclient2 or mpd (if it happens to be like some tarballs that includes the lib and the program under the program's name) [06:23] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-222-11.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:24] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.30.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:24] dimon: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libmpd/ [06:24] probably this one:) [06:26] i want to install samba,bind,dhcpd,iptables,proftpd and az imap+smtp capatible mail server onto slackware [06:27] those all come standard [06:28] whats the relevant command? [06:28] /quit [06:29] bandie9100: installpkg(8) probably. [06:29] i prefer /quit [06:29] mancha: yeah me too. :) [06:29] heh [06:29] :( [06:30] StevenR (n=foo@95.146.69.233) joined ##slackware. [06:30] installpkg requires predownloaded packages? [06:30] yes, but as mancha already said, most of those already come with a standard in stall of slackware. [06:31] and what do you prefer for a mailserver? [06:32] happu new year [06:32] likewise. where are you? [06:33] Kowalczyk: thank you :) [06:35] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: "Leaving" [06:35] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [06:35] Kowalczyk: i habe installed it, and now it is in /usr/lib . But when i try to ./configure ncmpcpp, it anyway tells me that there's no libmpdclient lib :( [06:35] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [06:35] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: [06:36] aux. grat. [06:36] bandie9100 (n=sysop@91.82.225.54) left ##slackware ("Távozom"). [06:38] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.162.162) joined ##slackware. [06:38] hello [06:38] it is 13:37 here :P [06:42] goarilla_ (n=goarilla@72.160-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [06:42] dear All. Tell me, pleease, if the package during ./confugure tells me that i haven't library, but i KNOW that i have it - how can i make package know it too? [06:43] dimon: if you just insatlled the library, then run ldconfig [06:44] dios_mio: yes, i just installed the lib, and i already did "ldconfig". Still no effect :( [06:45] maybe it wants a newer version of the library? [06:45] dimon, you need to be more specific, what package are you building, what lib does it want and you say you have, and what is the exact configure message? [06:46] mancha: i need to build ncmpcpp (a client for mpd), and it needs for libmpdclient2 [06:46] ok, and what is the configure message? [06:47] i checked ifconfig, and my vm that i copied from another copy has no eth0... but i ran the same vm on my other computer (that i copied from) and ifconfig shows eth0, why is this? [06:47] mancha: a configure msg is: "error: libmpdclient2 is required" [06:48] where didlimpdclient2 get installed? [06:48] i mean the vm that i copied from another computer [06:48] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] dimon, please compile mpd first [06:49] ComputerNewbie, is the networking hardware identical? [06:49] mancha: /usr/local/lib/libmpdclient.so.2.0.0 [06:50] Delahunt: i already did [06:50] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:50] /usr/local == failure [06:50] sahk0: ok, where should i install it? [06:51] /usr [06:51] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:52] hmm [06:52] sahk0: is this parameter that i need to define in "gmake install" ? [06:52] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:52] goarilla (n=goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:53] probably, look for --prefix [06:53] sahk0: i just did "gmake", then "gmake install DESTDIR=/tmp/pkgname", then cd to this dir, and "makepkg ../packagename.tgz". Is this correct? [06:53] you should put it in /usr/lib so you don't have to fuss with lib paths [06:53] i have no idea [06:54] mancha: ok, i will try. [06:54] thanks all [06:54] use a SlackBuild [06:54] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:55] btw ncmpcpp doesnt even depend on that lib [06:56] zsejk (n=zsejk@5357C25C.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:57] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:57] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:00] delahunt, the networking hardware isnt identical, but its a VM, so its should be the same virtual hardware right? [07:01] that depends on how the host-side vm is being started [07:01] crap, it doesn't work anyway. libmpdclient now installed in /usr/local [07:01] for example, qemu has flags for different sorts of netowkring, pass-trhough, tunnel, etc [07:01] i found a link that solved my problem [07:01] although i have no idea what it did ;p [07:01] http://yoopergeek.blogspot.com/2007/07/vmware-loosing-eth0-after-youve-copied.html [07:01] dimon: which ncmpcpp version are you trying to build [07:02] ? [07:02] good blog [07:02] thank god for blogs! [07:02] vmware, say what? [07:02] vmware :p [07:02] the key to all probelms is to know exactly what to type into google :p [07:03] s/google/any search engine [07:03] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:03] yeah ;p [07:03] ComputerNewbie, i think it may be different due to the compiling of the VM module to your machine [07:03] but i am not sure [07:03] sahk0: a last one, 0.5 [07:03] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:03] yeah im not sure exactly what it is, but i think that blog explains it pretty well [07:03] zsejk (n=zsejk@5357C25C.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:03] it thinks the mac address is the same thing [07:03] because im copying the vm [07:03] but its not [07:03] vmware automatically generates a new mac address i think [07:04] but somehow it still points to the old one from the old vm [07:04] im going to go on irc using slackware now :p [07:04] brb [07:04] ComputerNewbie (n=peter@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:04] dimon: ah ok support for that lib has been in latest version [07:05] root (n=root@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:05] root kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [07:07] seems the mistake was saying "yes" to a new VM-UUID [07:08] this seems common sense-esque. you want it to be exactly the same do you say "yes" to a question that has "change" or "new" in it? [07:08] ComputerNewbie (n=Computer@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:08] :p [07:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:11] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:12] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:12] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:14] http://www.itrunsonlinux.com/news/150-microsoft-wants-to-hire-an-anti-linux-guru [07:14] ComputerNewbie (n=Computer@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:15] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: "Leaving" [07:21] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.65.120) left irc: Connection timed out [07:21] ./configure script usually gets info about installed libs from pkg-config, right [07:21] ? [07:22] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.125) joined ##slackware. [07:22] yes [07:22] hihihi [07:23] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [07:23] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:23] mancha: i did "pkg-config --list-all | grep libmpd", and it returns "libmplclient - Music Player Daemon client library" [07:23] mancha: but so, why may this configure script doesn't see my lib? [07:26] zsejk (n=zsejk@5357C25C.cable.casema.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [07:27] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:29] did you move it to /usr/lib as i suggested? [07:30] mancha: yes, of course :) [07:31] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [07:31] and ran ldconfig? [07:31] mancha: wait a min, i found a last version 2.1 (i have installed 2.0 before) [07:31] mancha: yes, i ran ldconfig [07:31] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:35] mancha: oh, yes. i don't know what will be after, but ./configure was successfully :) [07:35] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:35] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:36] mancha: one more question: how do i make pkg-config tell me full info about package? version, etc [07:36] alice (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:37] modinfo [07:38] er, modversioni mean [07:39] mancha: hmm.. modinfo knows nothing about my libmpdclient, and modversion - command not found [07:46] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:48] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:49] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-169-138-28.range86-169.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [07:50] K3yvn (n=mike@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] spiko (n=spiko@89-212-66-54.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:55] pkg-config --modversion dimon [07:56] can i recommend pkg-config --list-all | grep mpdc and then pkg-config --modversion "result of previous query" [07:56] since you need to be exact [07:57] Nick change: goarilla_ -> goarilla [08:00] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.245.255) joined ##slackware. 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[08:34] nope, not me [08:35] i wonder how useful it is. or should i say common instead. i guess it doesnt work with all banks [08:35] but good morning anyway [08:35] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) joined ##slackware. [08:35] seems its built to be used w/ gnucash and maybe others [08:36] yeah skrooge and kmymoney too [08:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:39] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:40] v4nelle (n=van@78-60-56.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:41] it has a slackbuild already [08:41] Hello, [08:41] good year 20110 [08:41] 2010 oups [08:41] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:41] happy new year [08:43] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. 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[09:31] dimon: alsa supports sound input from multiple apps at the same time [09:32] esd is dead [09:32] However, if one app grabs the /dev/dsp (because it uses OSS, not ALSA) then your alsa apps will not be able to play sound [09:32] esd may be dead but it works [09:33] And pulsaudio is broken more often than that it works [09:33] unlike pulseaudio. [09:33] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [09:33] :) [09:34] alienBOB: but in my case, only one app can use sound! [09:34] alienBOB: should i change any configs to make it work? [09:35] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [09:36] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] what programs are you using dimon? [09:36] dimon: the first step would be trying to know if the app is using oss or alsa, just to be sure [09:36] fuser /dev/dsp [09:36] hello, once again, I will ask my favourit question: how do I install several versions of the same package ? Could you reference me somewhere ? [09:36] paul424: depends [09:36] paul424, why would you want to do this? [09:37] What packages, do you have an example? [09:37] Action: Delahunt hands alienBOB a beer [09:37] alienBOB: KDevelop in particular, any user app in general. [09:38] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30BA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [09:38] i'd say one way is to build one (or both) with a prefix of /opt/whatever-1.3.4 and /opt/whatever-1.6.7 etc [09:38] dimon: search for alsasharing [09:38] paul424: you can try building a second version of kdevelop using a different PREFIX to install to. Like the kde3-compat packages in /extra do [09:38] tori (n=ade@92.84.4.101) joined ##slackware. [09:38] ...like Delahunt said [09:39] alienBOB, what, you don't like heineken? 8-) [09:39] with alsa you need to configure the program(s) to use dmix [09:39] Delahunt: in NL, heineken is not at all the best beer to be obtained ;-) [09:39] or if they can't, to output sounds based on a command like aplay (if it's a .wav file) or possible mplayer or some other one that can dmix [09:40] meh @ kdevelop, try geany instead :P [09:40] alienBOB, true but i figured i can buy heineken so i'd hand you one 8-) [09:40] alienBOB, mail me some of them and i'll try them. i'll mail you squid jerky in exchange 8-) [09:40] O.o [09:41] Action: init[1] wonders why dimon facing this issue ,it works out of box here o_o [09:41] hey squid jerky is really nice [09:41] init[1], because some applications use OSS [09:41] Delahunt: "fuser /dev/dsp" returns me PID of my player mpd.. [09:41] back in slack 12.x i would not install alsa-oss 8-) [09:42] dimon, mpd? [09:42] Delahunt: yes [09:42] sounds like mpd uses oss [09:42] alienBOB: does slackware include opensp ? [09:42] Axius (n=ade@92.84.29.84) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:42] can you specify for it to use alsa, dimon? [09:42] mpd should use alsa by default [09:42] alsa dmix is default: if something uses alsa it should digitally mix (i.e. simultaneous sounds) [09:43] sahk0: in linuxdoc-tools [09:43] Delahunt: should i change mpd config to make it use alsa instead of oss? [09:43] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:43] alienBOB: thanks. i just searched l/ thought it was a lib [09:43] chuck56 (n=chuck56@66.7.171.116) joined ##slackware. [09:43] dimon, yes [09:44] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:45] Delahunt: it was been my first configuration (mpd was use alsa), after it i have changed it to oss, but nothing changed. But i have not checked "fuser /dev/dsp" with alsa [09:45] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.245) joined ##slackware. [09:46] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [09:47] harls (n=gabba@pool-173-69-205-71.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:48] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [09:48] tori (n=ade@92.84.4.101) left irc: "Leaving" [09:48] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:49] Delahunt: i have changed mpd to use alsa. Now "fuser /dev/dsp" returns nothing while player are working [09:49] good [09:49] it should dmix now [09:50] Delahunt: what is good? :) sound still works it one app only :( [09:50] hmm [09:50] Axius (n=ade@92.84.4.101) joined ##slackware. [09:51] maybe the way it interfaces with alsa is old [09:51] have you tried telling it hw=plug:dmix or however? [09:51] sorry but i need to go now [09:52] i am sure someone knows the answer to your questions [09:52] good luck, and have a good day [09:52] Delahunt: no, sorry, i don't know definitely what these options do. Can you tell me, what should i write in mpc config? [09:52] Delahunt (n=robert@ZD079141.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [09:53] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.245) left irc: "Saindo" [09:53] sirslack1r (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] sirslack1r (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:54] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:58] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] greetings from northern Canada:) [10:00] Axius (n=ade@92.84.4.101) left irc: "Leaving" [10:00] sirslack1r (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [10:01] slackin (n=slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:03] hello hitest [10:03] sirslack1r (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:04] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:06] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:07] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] who want kiss a cat [10:07] for the lost time, http://www.premiumorange.com/fredoslack/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=52 [10:07] it was [10:07] the cat of my friend [10:08] 1995-2009 [10:08] bye bye, Achille [10:08] hiya TClayton:) [10:09] how goes? [10:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:09] commiserations fredoslack - I know how it is to loose a furry member of the family having lost one within the last couple of years [10:10] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:10] alisonken1home, thanks you. [10:10] it wasn't my cat [10:10] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [10:10] but it was my friend [10:10] anyone has a micro-atx motherboard? I'd like to know the space between two mounting screws (I'm going to try to build up a computer case) [10:10] yo fredoslack [10:10] Hi Camarade_Tux good année 2010 :) [10:11] happy new year fredoslack :-) [10:11] full off bonheur [10:11] plein de bonnes choses * [10:11] fredoslack: regardless of yours or a friends, it's still a member of part of your family [10:11] extended family, rather [10:11] alisonken1home, could you post [10:11] a small message please :p [10:11] for the cat [10:12] even [10:12] it won't be french, but sure [10:12] in english [10:12] no problem [10:12] just for the cat [10:12] repndre I take it? [10:13] yup [10:13] ah, found the space between the screws :-) [10:14] alisonken1home, hello and bye the cat [10:14] for exemple [10:15] apercu envoyer annuler - which one would be the one I want? [10:15] to post the repy [10:15] envoyer [10:16] thanks [10:16] you write your message, [10:16] and envoyer ;-) [10:16] ok - didn't like the code entered - is it case sensitive? [10:16] i don't know [10:16] :( [10:17] ok - it liked that one [10:17] alisonken1home, it's works [10:17] thank you, very much [10:18] my pleasure [10:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [10:22] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [10:22] draeath (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Trying to install slackware-13.0 x86 via PXE. Getting stuck after the initrd loads: http://pastebin.com/d12b03457 [10:23] not sure where to go. [10:24] did you try having 'no apic no acpi' in the append line in the pxe.conf? [10:24] noapic noacpi ? [10:24] yes [10:24] let me try [10:25] Learned something "neat" about dell PowerEdge servers if anyone cares. BIOS doesn't work if you use a PCI video card. just freezes at a blank screen, no output from either onboard or PCI, no response to keys. Joy. [10:25] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.125) left irc: "Leaving." [10:25] alisonken1home: no change [10:26] sometimes it's a matter of disabling bios or telling bios to not initialize pci chips during post [10:26] boot with "edd=off" [10:26] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [10:26] XGizzmo: no change, save that that particular line doesn't print [10:26] hmm [10:26] numlock toggles, if this is important [10:26] post your pxe.conf file? [10:27] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-7-27.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:27] its the default one on the usb/pxe installer folder on the 13.0 release ISO. I can pastebin anyways if needed? [10:27] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] http://pastebin.com/d4f1aa221 [10:28] (tried huge.s as well, no change) [10:29] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:30] ramdisk=1 AND ramdisk=0? I thought ramdisk is the size (in kb) to create the ramdisk [10:30] draeath: What are you booting with? [10:30] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:30] usr13: what do you mean? media> [10:31] alisonken1home: dunno, those are the same lines used on the cd ISO [10:31] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.65.120) left irc: Connection timed out [10:31] usr13: if thats what you want, this is PXE with the syslinux pxelinux.0 file [10:32] seems like the dots for the initrd.img file is not long enough as well [10:32] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:32] alisonken1home: im abbreviating them since i have to type it. i get a few lines worth on both. [10:32] draeath: Yes, media> CDROM or... what? [10:32] usr13: PXE. [10:32] Oh.. sorry.. [10:33] Well, can you just boot from the CDROM? [10:33] nope [10:33] well, i could, but i cannot get into the BIOS to enable it. Long story short it's because I lack a particular cable. [10:33] draeath: does this system boot if you use a slackware cd/dvd or usb? [10:34] Yes, back when i was able to use this (ie, in the office where I could use the onboard VGA and access the bios config) [10:34] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [10:35] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:35] the only other thing I can think of is mismatched kernel/cpu [10:35] if you don't even get the kernel messages [10:35] I thought of that, but in such case it gives you a particular error [10:35] if it was kernel panic unable to find root, then it might be the initrd [10:35] (i tested with the amd64 kernel just to make sure of that) [10:36] Well failing that. Do you know of any nifty tools I could pxe load that would then let me chainload to something else? like grub but for pxe? [10:37] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [10:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) left irc: "‚»" [10:38] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:38] hmmm.... i wonder. if i replace the pxelinux.0 file (the boot code) with a grub stagefile, i wonder if that would do anything. easy enough to try... [10:39] what hardware again? [10:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [10:39] Dell PowerEdge 750. P4 3.0ghz [10:39] it's a 1U rack server [10:39] dell's are always fun to play with - nonstandard crap and all [10:40] oh yes very fun [10:41] Now, if I had a dvi-vga adapter, or a vga-vga cable, i could pop out this external card and get into the bios. but no, no cables. [10:41] cant get in bios with a PCI vga, it locks up instead of entering the bios. good coding there. [10:41] we have ours setup with a console server on ttyS0 so we can access the bios via serial - but we just got the 750's and I haven't had a chance to play with it yet [10:42] part of the issue is this is supposed to be my workstation. blegh [10:42] gah - always fun [10:43] I'm surprised you either didn't get a vgadvi adapter or a dvi-capable monitor to work with it [10:43] draeath: Maybe check bzimage for integrity; md5sum /mirror/slackware/slackware-13.0/kernels/huge.s/bzImage [10:43] well i would but im stuck at home with what i've got around here :/ [10:44] ive got an adapter to plug a vga cable into a dvi socket... but my monitor is dvi, and i need to plug it into a vga socket. if only i could give the ports a sex change operation :D [10:44] draeath: unsoder it? [10:45] lol homemade adapter FTW [10:47] dangit theres got to be a way to boot grub via pxe [10:47] all i can find is using grub to boot pxe [10:49] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [10:51] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:53] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [10:53] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:55] draeth: http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnX86 <-- possibility? [10:56] either way, it sounds like the kernel get's initially loaded, it just sounds like a default slack kernel is having issues on the new dell power [10:57] edge [10:57] well its hardly new, but yea. i dont think the issue is at the pxe level, since it loads the initrd up to "ready." [10:58] I think it is a problem in isolinux [10:58] and sadly i don't know anything about grub2, i need to use grub legacy. [10:58] due to a vesa bios bug [10:58] huh but then why did it work fine via cdrom? [10:58] also for that matter debian kernels boot fine [10:58] because isolinux is designed for cdrom, not ramdisk [10:59] but im not using isolinux, im using pxelinux [11:00] 58f2df158842c6cd6348b79dbe5cff87 [11:00] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [11:00] hi to all [11:00] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:00] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:00] what i the equivalent of make DESTDIR with python install ? [11:01] what is* [11:01] draeath: Try a different kernel? [11:01] root= [11:01] I think [11:01] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] usually "python setup.py install --root=$PKG" [11:01] ok thanks [11:02] draeath: /hugesmp.s/bzImage [11:03] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [11:03] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:03] usr13: already done this. and its not a corruption issue either [11:04] OpenSysHTC (n=vs@89.214.11.96) joined ##slackware. [11:06] draeath: try adding "acpi=off" and/or "noapic" boot parameters to see if that makes the kernel boot [11:06] another thought is try slack32 rather than slack64 [11:07] alisonken1home: nope, dried that. [11:07] er, not using slack64 [11:08] draeath: try 64bit [11:08] its a p4. [11:08] (32-bit only) [11:09] o [11:10] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:10] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [11:11] draeath: Pull the MB battery for a few min. (and check it for voltage while your at it, should be 3v or close to it), and put it in after a little while and try again. (Be sure and unplug power cable too.) [11:11] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:13] draeath: What is the model number of your "PowerEdge"? [11:14] usr13: and i will be screwed because i cannot access the bios (which is the root of this issue). besides it's not the bios either. i know this. Also, PowerEdge 750. [11:14] usr13: 750 [11:14] im trying 'pxeknife' right now. see if i can get that workin [11:16] draeath: Have you tested the memory? If you have more than one, pull out all but one. [11:16] this is not hardware either. [11:17] usr13: i appreciate it but you seem to be all over the place... ? [11:18] draeath: Well sure I am "all over the palce", I am trying to help you solve a problem that may have any number of solutions. If you try one or more of the solutions I give you, they may work. They may not but what do you have to loose? [11:21] lots. many of these would land me unable to do anything at all due to various circumstances i already mentioned [11:21] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [11:22] its frustrating because this is all because of 1) stupid BIOS code 2) lack of a silly cable [11:22] draeath: That kernel SHOULD boot your server. [11:23] I know, but it doesn't. But the current stable debian kernel DOES. various other kernels do. [11:23] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [11:23] makes no sense to me [11:23] to me either. [11:23] draeath: try downloading http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/syslinux-3.84.tar.gz [11:23] alright finally i got a grub shell [11:24] Why would pulling the CMOS battery cause you not to be able to do anyting? [11:24] I don't understand... [11:24] extract pxelinux.0 from core ad replace the pxelinux.0 on your tftpd [11:24] usr13: because it will force me to enter hte bios to check the clock. i cannot access the bios without removing the PCI video card. I do not have the cables to see what im doing without that card. [11:25] o [11:25] XGizzmo: lol, already done [11:25] hrm. ok so i have grub 1.96 loading via pxe finally. only to see it only chainloads hd0 hd1 fd0 and memdisk. no cdrom :( [11:25] alkos333 (n=alkos333@68-30-33-118.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] but if you can get it to boot and get the install done, you should be able to use hwclock to set time. [11:26] he's not a true geek - a true geek would have hardware back to a hercules/vga monitor and/or card in the closet sitting next to his xt classic [11:26] usr13: thats not the issue, i dont care if the clock is wrong. the problem is I cannot continue after the cmos reset, without getting into the bios. [11:27] alisonken1home: i'm a bit young for that :P [11:27] :) [11:27] o [11:29] card in the closet ? [11:30] you know, the place where the wife sticks things she doesn't want to look at [11:30] old cards & circuit boards should be hanging on the wall like paintings [11:30] well, she DID make a clock out of an old modem isa card I had hanging around .... [11:31] BIOS vendors who don't include boot selector hotkeys should be shot. [11:31] but she forced me to only put it on the wall at the office [11:31] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.14.87) joined ##slackware. [11:32] you can get clock kits at most hobby stores, quick and easy to install [11:32] she got her clock kit at Michaels [11:33] martinus (n=martinus@125.167.51.200) joined ##slackware. [11:34] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [11:36] hii excusme [11:36] happy New Year 2010! [11:37] i have 2 file (one is zip file and second is original source code) [11:37] cool [11:38] when i compiling source code, this source code refer (in prefix option) to where iam extracted zip file [11:38] i follow the standart way, all prefix compilation must be in /usr [11:38] so first i extracted zip file in /usr [11:39] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:39] what program? [11:39] extracted zip file created dir in /usr like this /usr/package-version [11:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-234.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:39] alisonken1home, : nsis :D [11:39] i confused how to pass $PREFIX argument in my slackbuild script [11:39] ~_~" [11:40] ok - the zip file is the source, you don't extract source into the /usr directory. it was just letting you know that when you compile the program to pass PREFIX=/usr to your compiling options [11:40] PREFIX=/usr nsis.slackbuild [11:40] uuuh i give up on this thing. [11:40] i created slackbuild like this [11:40] http://pastebin.ca/1734115 [11:40] later guys [11:40] draeath (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) left ##slackware. [11:41] i mean a PREFIX=$PKGUSR/$PRGNAM-$VERSION \ is acceptable in SBo submission ? [11:41] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Connection timed out [11:41] martinus: you should be asking #slackbuilds [11:41] oh ok [11:42] thumbs, : ok2x thx thumbs [11:42] :) [11:42] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:42] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) left irc: [11:44] RaNdY (i=randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:45] RaNdY (n=x@rats.run.the.shell.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Nick change: RaNdY -> Guest43429 [11:46] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-195.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:47] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. 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[12:01] v4nelle (n=van@78-60-56.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:02] Ah well... debugging it is... fun (NOT) [12:04] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:07] alexcg (n=alexande@77.247.173.123) joined ##slackware. [12:08] checkinstall is a waaaste of time [12:08] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:09] macman_ (n=macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [12:09] macman_ (n=macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: Client Quit [12:09] macman_ (n=macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [12:10] i just made an omlette with smoked ham, green onions, bell pepper & cheese [12:11] matessim (n=i@85-250-140-28.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [12:11] matessim (n=i@85-250-140-28.bb.netvision.net.il) left ##slackware. [12:12] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:12] just adding DESTDIR=/tmp/pkg or INSTALL_ROOT=/tmp/pkg to the end of the make install line (whatever applies) and cd in to /tmp/pkg and run makepkg on it will suffice, it makes checkinstall both redundit and obsolete [12:13] alexcg (n=alexande@77.247.173.123) left ##slackware. [12:13] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:14] how long does a typical slack desktop install take these days? [12:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:14] 20 minutes or so. if you dont tinker with it much [12:15] really? [12:15] Gargantua (i=Gargantu@213.188.64.13) joined ##slackware. [12:15] thats my estimation. i havent timed it [12:15] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [12:15] it's always been ~20 minutes [12:15] ok now how about on like a p111 coppermine 800? [12:15] Happy New Years guys [12:15] That's it :D [12:15] Action: Dekkard contemplating dumping uboingo.. [12:16] also depends on the CPU & how many packages (or package sets) you omit, caveat emptor on the omiting packages & package sets [12:16] yeah.. [12:17] im just nervous about kde4 on this ol machine.. although 3.5 runs ok [12:17] how much ram does it have [12:17] 512 [12:17] its a dinosaur [12:19] id go with slackware 12.2 if i wanted to use slackware on that machine [12:19] I think you should rather use XFCE than KDE4 on that machine Dekkard [12:19] pfft [12:19] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:19] thanks for the advise [12:19] Slackware 10 gnome ftw [12:20] !!! [12:20] lol [12:21] back in the day.. slack taught me more about 'nix than anything.. it was fun.. than i got lazy [12:21] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:24] ChArLoK_16 (n=XPPRESP3@78.110.109.231) joined ##slackware. [12:27] bandie9100 (n=sysop@91.82.225.54) joined ##slackware. [12:27] hello [12:27] i have a newly installes slackware [12:28] it halts at boot with kernel panic [12:28] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.17.233) joined ##slackware. [12:28] the error is: [12:29] unable to mount root fs on unkown-block... [12:29] pls help [12:29] harls (n=gabba@pool-173-69-205-71.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] harls (n=gabba@pool-173-69-205-71.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:30] harls (n=gabba@pool-173-69-205-71.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-243.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:31] maybe an initrd problem (since it is a fresh install) i can easily be fixed by booting your fresh install using the CD/DVD #1 (read the info at the boot prompt) then when booted read the README file about initrd in /boot/* [12:32] happy new year! best slack for all of you %) [12:32] happy slackin' to you too! [12:34] On the first day of xmas "Bob" gave to me [12:34] <|Slacker|> hey there slackers [12:34] <|Slacker|> happy new year [12:37] bl00d (n=bl00d@120.141.148.42) joined ##slackware. [12:38] Pig_Pen, im trying it [12:38] bl00d (n=bl00d@120.141.148.42) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:38] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-169-138-28.range86-169.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:39] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [12:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:43] bandie9100: did you get the slackware on your harddrive booted with the CD/DVD rom ? [12:44] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:45] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [12:45] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:47] Pig_Pen, i am currently booted from cd [12:48] the installed slackware wont boot [12:48] ok, look in the /boot directory for README.initrd [12:48] found [12:48] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] it says, shall regenerate the initrd [12:49] the CD/DVD will boot the slackware you just installed on the harddrive, i bet you just need to fix an initrd issue and it will boot [12:49] how to fix that? [12:49] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:50] you need to run a command that will build an initrd.img then add a line to /etc/lilo.conf then run /sbin/lilo [12:51] hmmm, i have not /boot/initrd, is it wrong? [12:51] no [12:51] not wrong, you just need to build it [12:52] that README.initrd will tell you how to build it [12:53] it said a command [12:54] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6 -m ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/hdd3 [12:54] you did you ext3 for the filesystem? [12:55] you did _use_ ext3 for the filesystem?? [12:55] ive correct the parameters corresponds to my configuration [12:55] good [12:55] Gargantua (i=Gargantu@213.188.64.13) left ##slackware. [12:55] ext3 on /dev/hdd3 (and hdd2 too) [12:55] now just add the line to to /etc/lilo.conf and run the /sbin/lilo command [12:56] this kernel version number comes from /boot/vmlinuz* [12:56] but mkinitrd quits with error [12:57] didnt find a file [12:57] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Connection timed out [12:58] you have to adjust the command to fit your install, that readme file is just to show an example [12:58] initrd-tree.tar.gz [12:59] solved this error [13:00] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:00] now just add the line to /etc/lilo.conf and run the /sbin/lilo command [13:00] ahh, /boot/initrd generated! [13:00] ok [13:01] bythe way, i fellow the instroductions during the setup and this problem appears [13:02] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.14.87) left irc: No route to host [13:02] why initrd hadnt made by setup? [13:03] just one of the mysteries of slackware [13:03] because Slackware boots another kernel which doesnt need an initrd by default [13:04] hmmm [13:04] so unless you changed something the kernel panic is irrelevant to the initrd :) [13:05] the slackware install offers 4 kernels, two require an initrd, two dont [13:06] _AmaN_ (n=aman@117.197.167.56) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Pig_Pen, did you mask a float over your s10 and drive it down old pass for the rose parade? [13:06] i got a homework, "build a small businnes server with ftp, dhcp, dns, samba, email services. it mustnt be debian based" [13:06] you only need to select one, (uncheck three) i never let slackware install all four, so i dont know if the slackware install selects one for you or installs all four, [13:06] <_AmaN_> hi [13:07] no jeevs, i live about 1500 miles away from where the rose parade takes place [13:07] i heard the jets fly over like 20 min ago [13:07] "and scribe the steps of install" [13:07] but i missed the bomber that comes in the morning [13:08] so i try slackware [13:08] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [13:08] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [13:09] jeev: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2-g_H1YW5g The Bomber [13:10] :( still wrong [13:10] the same kernel panic [13:10] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:10] hmm [13:11] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] i always select one of the kernels that do not require an initrd, so fixing that problem is not my forte [13:12] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:12] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] wait, i send the log [13:14] http://kepfeltoltes.hu/100101/slackware_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png [13:14] why don't you just use the huge kernel bandie9100 ? [13:15] i think he is.. [13:15] the huge kernel won't panic [13:16] thrice`, how to do that? [13:16] as long as lilo is telling the kernel where the _real_ root is, it won't panic [13:16] it should be setup that way by default. have you messed with lilo.conf ? [13:16] you're saying that right after install, the system would not boot? [13:18] bandie9100: are you installing in virtualbox or something? [13:18] qemu, vmware etc [13:18] sahk0, ita, quemu [13:18] qemu [13:19] ah, ha! [13:21] you should have said that to Pig_Pen from the start you wasted 30mins from his life :P [13:21] s/from/of [13:21] thats 30 minutes ill never get back! :( [13:22] i want a refund! [13:23] sorry, i tought it not important [13:24] im again at cd-boot [13:24] how to add the other kernels? [13:25] select a kernel that does not require an initrd (good luck, no guarentees, and no refunds) [13:26] ChArLoK_16 (n=XPPRESP3@78.110.109.231) left irc: "Leaving." [13:27] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [13:30] i go to find the kernel archive in... anywhere and installpkg it [13:31] martinus (n=martinus@125.167.51.200) left irc: "Leaving" [13:32] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Operation timed out [13:33] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30BA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:33] xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:34] pim (n=root@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:34] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:34] pim kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [13:35] poor pim [13:35] pim (n=pim@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:35] that wasn't very clever was it [13:36] pim (n=pim@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Client Quit [13:36] pim_ (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:36] i found the kernel-huge.txz [13:37] congrats [13:37] you deserve it [13:37] howto tell installpkg to install is to target system [13:37] ? [13:37] i met a kernel once when i was in Kentucky [13:37] bandie9100, it's installed by defualt [13:38] Pig_Pen: oh i know the feeling. [13:38] Pig_Pen: bada-bing [13:38] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [13:38] it deflated instantly on my looks. oh my. [13:38] he was wearing a white suit, a bolo tie and had a goatee [13:39] it's not goatee you younglings... it's chin jewelry [13:43] Chin pubes. I'll sell you some. [13:43] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:44] thats a new one. a bit smelly but [13:44] i heard one guy say "why cultivate on my face what grows wild on my ass" [13:44] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:44] You know the new year is going to start off right when you wake up and your work firewall is down and out for the count.. #fml [13:45] did that leave the LAN disabled>? or wide open? [13:45] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:45] disabled.. [13:45] it is the gate keeper, it holds all the keys. [13:46] that can be fixed, better than having it wide open the the www for anyone to enter and cause mischef [13:46] then it wouldn't be a good firewall, would it? [13:46] nope [13:46] i can't even think, but i'm not trying hard, of a situation where that would actually happen. [13:47] in here by public statement of some sorry dude. [13:47] just .. wait. [13:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:50] Action: jg71 looks at antiwire [13:51] talk to us, goose [13:52] I'M PUNCHING OUT [13:53] suid0 (i=1000@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [13:57] bandie9100 (n=sysop@91.82.225.54) left ##slackware ("Távozom"). [14:01] macman_ (n=macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "Leaving" [14:02] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-251-144.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:04] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:05] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs antiwire [14:07] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [14:08] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-40-113.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [14:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.36) joined ##slackware. [14:13] I'm configuring a kernel for Intel graphics support for the 945GM chipset. [14:13] There doesn't seem to be support in the kernel mentioned for the 945, just the 915 [14:13] raela (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-024.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:14] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-199-32.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:14] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:14] antiwire: same iirc [14:15] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:17] I'm lost when it comes to setting up a system for intel graphics [14:17] Do I want to enable intelfb? will that give me 3D support in X? [14:17] what's the file that xwmconfig edits? [14:18] pim_, ~/.xinitrc [14:18] thanks [14:18] antiwire, no, it won't; that's just the framebuffer [14:19] thrice`: Do the intelfb and xorg drivers clash like the nvidiafb and nvidia prop. drivers? [14:19] not that I know [14:19] which kernel are you using? [14:19] 2.6.32.2 [14:19] you should be using KMS with intel [14:20] i'm moving from an identical system that had nvidia to one with intel 945GM [14:20] Razec (i=1000@187-27-228-99.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:20] My whole graphics frame of reference has been nvidia [14:20] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] thrice`: For KMS, do I need to intelfb stuff? [14:21] nope, for KMS, you don't select any FB [14:21] and then compile the DRM stuff into the kernel, as well as the intel module [14:21] in ~/.xinitrc could I just replace /usr/bin/startfluxbox with /usr/bin/startkde or something similar? [14:21] er, intel into the kernel too [14:22] pim_, run "xwmconfig" and it'll do it for you [14:22] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-40-113.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:22] thrice`: when you mention compiling intel into the kernel do you mean the i915 module? [14:22] redtricycle (n=Unknown@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. [14:22] yep, and it'll ask if you want KMS, and say yes [14:22] thrice` I know about that command, I just want to know what it does [14:23] pim_, it's a bash script, just read it :) [14:23] thrice`: is it safe to leave VESA FB support or should that whole section be nixed? [14:23] thrice` oh I didn't know I'll look at it [14:23] CONFIG_FB [14:24] yeah, leave that to "y" [14:24] and then, remove any VGA stuff in your lilo.conf :) [14:24] ok thanks [14:25] thrice`: do you have CONFIG_FB_INTEL set at all? [14:25] redtricycle (n=Unknown@web75.webfaction.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:25] antiwire, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/qy7qla94.html [14:25] rockin thanks again [14:26] KMS is pretty stable now, and will actually be a requirement to use the soon-to-be-release intel drivers [14:26] redtricycle (n=redtricy@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Axius (n=ade@92.82.90.247) joined ##slackware. [14:27] slocate is not working: it could not find the database now is updatedb something one might typically store in cron? [14:29] talso (n=talso@S01060030542b92b7.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:29] yes, updatedb by slack default runs in cron, at some ungodly hour like 4am [14:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:29] then it is not running [14:29] bah, 4am ain't ungodly ;p [14:30] pim_: alternative is to use something like anacron and fire it up with the nice command [14:30] does root have any email to that effect? [14:30] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:31] thrice`: This should be an interesting test for me. I have two laptops and they are absolutely identical except that one has the nvidia NVS110 graphics option and one has the intel 945GM graphics option [14:31] everything else is the same [14:31] what size and date stamp's on: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db [14:31] antiwire, neat :) [14:32] mancha if you're asking me, that file is being created right now [14:32] kill the fb stuff, set kms + 915 INTO the kernel, remove any vga= or video= stuff in your lilo.conf, and let KMS do it all :) [14:32] awesome. building the intel setup kernel right now [14:32] pim, either i am asking you or the other fella who's wondering about updatedb, oh wait there isn't one heh [14:34] also, if your machine is not on usually in the 4am-5am window, then cron for updatedb would not get run. [14:34] yes I noticed [14:35] slocate is pretty neat [14:35] thrice`: On the xorg side of the system should I just configure my driver section to use the i915? [14:35] pim_: mancha: I run updatedb from anacron [14:35] you can either change the time for the dailies, make sure your maching is on at 4am, trigger updatedb another way, or usesomething like anacron [14:35] tappitahti (n=tappitah@88-196-188-224-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [14:35] antiwire, you won't need to configure anything, xorg will find your intel stuff on its own [14:35] tori (n=ade@74.115.0.35) joined ##slackware. [14:36] thrice`: My xorg needs a bunch of manual settings for my touchpad though [14:36] I thought I still need to provide and xorg for that stuff [14:36] MarderIII thanks for your suggestion [14:36] and xorg.conf* [14:36] antiwire, not really. IF you need to override touchpad settings, it's best in a hal fdi file [14:36] pim_: if using anacron be sure to 'nice' updatedb or your machine wil slow down [14:36] ok [14:36] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics has a nice example [14:38] MarderIII thanks [14:39] is crontab one file, or is crontab all cron files in /etc/ together? [14:39] every user has their own crontab [14:39] pim_, pleeeease google some of these easy questions [14:39] :-) [14:39] root's crontab is the only one that's systemwide [14:40] Axius (n=ade@92.82.90.247) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:41] tori (n=ade@74.115.0.35) left irc: Client Quit [14:43] Axius (n=ade@92.82.90.247) joined ##slackware. [14:44] Axius (n=ade@92.82.90.247) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:46] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:48] sorry thrice` [14:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [14:48] it's OK, just no need to ask every single question you come across :> [14:48] mindstorm (i=1000@c-76-125-8-224.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] sometimes people are less likely to help if it doesn't appear as you're trying for yourself, too [14:50] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:51] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [14:51] happy gnuyear :-) [14:52] if you don't mind i know its in a man page somewhere but i would like a simple command to rip an audio cd to a folder .. then burn that folder to a cd so i can play it in my car .. .i perfer a command line string [14:54] macman_: cdparanoia -B && cdrecord *.wav [14:55] macavity, what does that do ? [14:55] it cleans your system of temporary files [14:55] oh no, it must rip a cd and burn it [14:58] macman_: it ripts the whole CD to the current dir and burns the tracks to a CD so you can play them in your car [14:58] macman_: if you want an mp3 CD i will leave it as an exercise for you to obtain lame from sbo and learn how to use it [14:58] ok cool [14:59] macavity, does it have to be lame .. wav are cool right ? [14:59] macavity, i already have folders with mp3's in them .. i need to burn the folder to a cd [14:59] wav will give you a "real audio CD" [14:59] in that case you need lame too [14:59] and not all players play mp3, so make sure your car does [15:00] lame --decode [15:00] so you get .wav files [15:00] and cdrecord to burn with [15:00] if cdrecord bitches about the lenght of the wav files, see the manpage for the auto padding option [15:00] i *belive* it is called -pad [15:01] but i dont bother looking things up in manpages you have on your own system [15:01] afk [15:02] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-168-255.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:03] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [15:06] ok say i have all wavs right macavity [15:06] to get them to a cd do i use the growisofs command ? [15:06] i forgott how to spell it .. or do i use wodim [15:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:06] thrice`: freaking rad. [15:07] it works [15:07] KMS is working too [15:07] neat, it set the resolution for you? [15:07] yep [15:07] and touchpad works fine too [15:07] great :> [15:07] Suzanne^^ (i=gringo24@41.236.14.121) joined ##slackware. [15:08] hmm, google earth and openarena won't start [15:08] openarena bails out GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem [15:08] google earth just hows the splash screen and then disappears [15:11] googleearth throws out :Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Google Earth has caught signal 11. [15:13] macavity, or anyone http://www.pastie.org/763389 < -- don't trip i made the name CD1 etc .. [15:15] If anyone can suggest what I might be doing wrong with the Intel drivers that would make openarena and googleearth not work it would help me out a load. 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[15:23] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:25] do I understand correctly that sudo merely gives you root secuirity clearance rather than making you actually root for executing that one command? [15:25] pim_: more or less. [15:25] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:26] I see [15:27] the only way around that that I know of is 'sudo su -' assuming your sudo has been configured that way [15:28] hmm well what I was trying to do is: sudo init 4 [15:28] pim_: and what happened? [15:28] probably need "sudo /sbin/init 4" [15:29] or sudo /sbin/telinit 4 [15:29] mm, even better :> [15:30] google says both do the same [15:30] pim_: You'll find that not all that is in root's path is also in user's path. [15:31] and who wants to argue with google? [15:31] OpenSysHTC (n=vs@89.214.11.96) left irc: "Bye" [15:31] pim_: I said "or" [15:32] Stik (n=Stik@c-76-104-165-86.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] usr13 I see what you mean [15:34] macavity, thanks for the lame --decode [15:35] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [15:35] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:35] well thanks for your help everybody, goodbye [15:35] Actually tho, telinit is the prefered command. On some linux systems you may need to use telinit rather than init. [15:36] usr13 yes I found that after some more intense research [15:36] axyjo (n=chatzill@92.96.36.76) joined ##slackware. [15:36] but often it is symlinked to init [15:36] It's like the vi editor. I never use command vi I always use vim and there is a reason; Because if I want the advanced vim editor I may have to specify it on some systems. [15:37] hi all, I just installed slackware on my netbook. I'm trying to compile dwm from slackbuilds.org and it seems that the common header files are missing (stdio.h, stdlib.h, etc). what do i do? [15:37] I use nano :-) [15:37] well thanks for your help, and goodnight usr13 [15:37] pim_ (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: [15:38] Well, you just go right on useing nano. If it floats your boat, use it, by all means. [15:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@68-30-33-118.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:40] stdio.h is part of glibc [15:40] or libc6 or what you like call it [15:40] mancha: thanks [15:41] you should probably install all the glibc's (core, i18n, profile, solibs, zone stuff) [15:41] how do I do that? I'm really used to having all dependencies being handled for me [15:42] get unused to that quick unless you wanna be spending a lot of days fretting while on slackware [15:42] axyjo, i take it you decided against a full install? [15:42] yeah, i'm trying [15:43] mancha: yup. was that a bad idea for my first slack install? i was pretty sure that i kept everything in that had the word 'library in it' [15:43] so that means you know exactly what you need and don't right? (j/k but unless you do the easiest is a full install). water under the bridge now....you can use the following: installpkg /path/to/glibc-stuff/glibc* [15:43] the only things I removed afair were the xorg libraries [15:43] oh cool! wildcards are supported! [15:43] didn't know that. thanks! [15:43] axyjo: if you wanbt to compile stuff on Slackware, install the "L/" series of packages, as well as the compilers in "Ddd/" [15:44] yes though i would say glibc*.txz to be sure [15:44] That is "D/" [15:44] alienBOB: thanks, I'll do that! [15:44] mancha: ah okay. [15:44] mancha: alienBOB: thanks! you've been very helpful. [15:44] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:44] ugh [15:45] back on the nvidia based system [15:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@68-30-39-148.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] axyjo, i predict you'll enjoy slackware [15:45] just need to shift gears out of the auto dependency handling mode [15:45] mancha: it's already running a lot faster since I know exactly what goes on my system [15:45] yeah, exactly [15:46] fwc (i=0@204.210.154.184) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:47] Stik (n=Stik@c-76-104-165-86.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [15:47] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.181.135) joined ##slackware. [15:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [15:50] another quick question: how often are updates pushed to the slackware mirrors? for example, the current kernel version for slackware is 2.6.29.6 but the latest stable from kernel.org is 2.6.32.2 [15:56] just because kernel's latest stable is higher doesn't mean slackware's mirrors are out of date [15:56] if you mean how often are kernel.org's stable releases taken seriously ? i'm not sure [15:56] ah okay [16:00] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:03] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:05] any tip for getting tap to click working with hal fdi files for a synaptics (specifically ALPS) touchpad? [16:06] I've copied the 11-x11-synaptics.fdi file and made the appropriate modifications but tap to click still doesn't work after restarting X [16:07] alkos333 (n=alkos333@68-30-39-148.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:09] antiwire: I just put my stuff in xorg.conf [16:09] That's how I had previously done it but I'd like to get modern [16:10] It seems that distributions are moving to fdi files so I'm giving that a shot [16:11] mancha, i wanna say you great thanks for help with install mpd+ncmpcpp :) now i enjoying it, and this is really cool) [16:12] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "Leaving" [16:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [16:14] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:14] durrr [16:14] Apparently killing X is not the same as restarting hal and dbus ;) [16:15] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30BA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [16:17] it would be easier to just reboot or switch to init 1 and back to 3 or 4 [16:17] crappy linux is getting as bad as windows ;p [16:18] Now I want to figure out how to tell hal/xorg to use the nvidia driver instead of the nv driver by using hal policy files instead of xorg.conf [16:20] antiwire: that's challenging. [16:20] I don't think you can [16:21] antiwire: you're pushing your luck little man (sf quote) [16:21] all hail ambiguity [16:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173.7.177.13) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Three people say it is rough to do it...I'll take heed [16:23] sirius (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:24] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [16:24] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.245.255) joined ##slackware. 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[16:40] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.17.233) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:40] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:40] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:43] Hellelujah.. managed to fix checkinstall for slack13 64 bit [16:44] And checkinstall is _not_ a waste of time for some of the more exotic source packages ;-) [16:46] It's all fun and games until checkinstall misses something [16:46] Installwatch can at least give you a list [16:47] antiwire: checkinstall uses installwatch [16:47] I know but checkinstall fails to track properly sometimes [16:47] I've had it spray files into the system [16:48] antiwire: which version? [16:49] git [16:50] antiwire: eek.. used a git version, but that was the one I had to "seriously" modify [16:50] _AmaN_ (n=aman@117.197.167.56) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:51] antiwire: checkinstall ..as is.. is not usable [16:52] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-243.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:52] But I had an older version that worked quite well for me. [16:52] So I wanted that functionality back. [16:55] slackin (n=slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [16:55] _AmaN__ (n=aman@117.197.160.30) left irc: Client Quit [16:55] never used checkinstall [16:55] i rather install in a vm and take note of all the files that have changed for the exotic packages [16:56] for the rest i rely on DESTDIR in Makefiles [16:56] to do its job properly [16:56] DESTDIR is good....when the whole Makefile supports it [16:57] Otherwise you *think* it worked but it did not [16:57] goarilla: DESTDIR doesn't always work [16:57] i usually think if grep DESTDIR Makefile [16:57] returns more than 10 lines [16:57] it's usually OK ! [16:57] wow [16:57] you have issues [16:57] I don't think I've hit an app that doesn't support DESTDIR in a couple years [16:57] why antiwire ... [16:58] basing a support off a line count? [16:58] thrice`: want to try my browser? if doesn't support DESTDIR xD [16:58] s/if/it/ [16:58] yes idd thrice` people have really gotten to endorse DESTDIR [16:58] I am working with a lot of legacy sources... thats why I like to use checkinstall [16:58] no antiwire it's just [16:58] if i grep it [16:58] and it has a lot of those lines [16:58] in the install target [16:58] grep -n [16:59] (press the return key less often) [16:59] then it's usually ok [16:59] although i'm quite spoiled and don't do the kind of checking that i just to do [16:59] damn [16:59] i was hoping the new year would bring electrical disturbances at the Kremlin and Camarade_Tux would remain offline [17:00] indefinitely. [17:00] no he's right, i should fill up my lines instead of hitting the return like a maniac. [17:01] i need to detox from those other more *modern* IM protocols ! [17:01] jeev: nope, we haz generators ;-) [17:01] goarilla: ever used bitlbee? [17:02] yes ... [17:02] :-) [17:02] it's a proxy to jabber, msn, ... [17:02] with a nice bee centered homepage, it's also dutch iirc, and they did fix a lot of security vuln's recently [17:02] then you can keep in IRC and still use those *modern* IM ... [17:03] i switched from bitlebee to pidgin when i finally got the oomph to run it funnily ... i'm back on my old machine :D [17:03] not modern, "recent" ;-) [17:04] Camerade Tux: nitpicking. but alright.. recent [17:04] and i'm seriously reconsidering it, because awesome wm doesn't have a try icon and bitlebee/irssi did have visual notifications of activity [17:04] tray* [17:05] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-195.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] running irssi/bitlbee/screen on a NLSU2 "slug" here [17:05] lol you're really squeezing it :D [17:05] yep :-) [17:06] was surprised that it actually worked. [17:09] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:09] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:10] hey just a heads up to anyone who might need to know this. If you use ntbackup to backup a multiuser quickbooks database you must make sure that there are no workstations with quickbooks running at the time of backup. [17:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173.7.177.13) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:11] antiwire: yes, obviously. [17:11] yes [17:11] antiwire: I deal with quickbooks on a daily basis, too. [17:11] windows programmers seem to love exclusive locking [17:13] elemenohpee (n=Boris@cpe-24-25-243-35.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:14] thumbs: I've been working with a small business who had some person acting as their IT guy who didn't know much about networking or anything really. [17:14] They use quickbooks POS and Quickbooks Pro [17:14] lots of apps, both on linux or windows make changes to files & configs only when closed [17:14] before I started working for them, they had no backups at all [17:14] antiwire: I use their built-in backup method. [17:14] thumbs: for POS that works but for QB Pro they would have to manually do it [17:15] there is not scheduling in QB pro 2008 [17:15] not/no [17:15] Nick change: toastyto1st -> toastytoast [17:15] antiwire: it's not scheduled. The admin runs it after a few transactions. [17:15] yeah, they wanted me to come up with a totally automated solution [17:15] djustice (n=kde@cablepool5-237.elberton.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] so I had to tell them that automating means they must make sure everyone is out of QB each night [17:16] antiwire: bad idea. [17:16] They know [17:16] I explained what happens when someone forgets [17:17] Or they can pay me to login remotely each day and do a manual admin backup [17:18] Luckily, QB POS has scheduling ability [17:18] *shrug* [17:19] Their last wannabe IT guy created a Windows domain that they don't even use or have requirements for, too. [17:19] antiwire: that's common. I take those apart often. [17:19] antiwire: "what do you mean you have a domain for 10 computers?????" [17:20] Have you ever decommissioned a Windows SBS Server 2003? [17:20] antiwire: 10-20 times. [17:20] This one isn't R2. I'm stressing over doing it a little [17:21] happy 2k+10 !! :) [17:22] xumpi: Same to you [17:22] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:22] antiwire: meh. Back up the user data. Switch workstations to local machines, copy data over. [17:23] elemenohpee (n=Boris@cpe-24-25-243-35.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:23] antiwire: it can take a day or two, at most. [17:24] thumbs: The server has never even been used for domain logins so I guess I don't have much to worry about except for it failing to come back up after decommissioning [17:24] I should just wipe the damn thing and do a clean install over a weekend. [17:24] antiwire: of linux and samba? heh. [17:24] hehe [17:24] Have you ever hosted a QB DB on samba? [17:25] I've never tried that [17:25] antiwire: I am now. [17:25] Works all good? [17:25] sure. [17:25] That's awesome. [17:25] I had to fiddle with oplocks a bit. [17:27] They'd never even realize that the backend server was linux [17:28] And having linux on the server would totally simplify administration for me [17:29] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [17:29] I switched the print server to that. And now, they don't have to 'reboot' the printing service any more. [17:29] lol [17:29] http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.33052 [17:29] :D [17:29] they had VNC and a shortcut to do that. Every day. [17:30] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:30] acidchild: do they make a matching USB penis warmer too? [17:30] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [17:30] you want your cock at 35 [17:30] thumbs: I always find that comical [17:30] *C? [17:30] acidchild: minimizes shrinkage [17:30] antiwire: now they have cups, and can control jobs over HTTP! [17:31] antiwire: i'm sorry you have that issue ;< [17:31] how was people's NYE? [17:32] One Time, I was surfing and it was February. I got out and started changing in the bed of my truck and my towel blew off. There was a hawt chick sitting in the car right next to my truck. [17:32] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-201-124.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:32] shitty deal :P [17:32] a usb penis warmer could have changed your life [17:32] Needless to say, it was a fscking cold February day and there was definite shrinkage [17:32] hahaaha. [17:33] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:34] shadowx (n=7350@93.183.142.147) joined ##slackware. [17:34] ah, thats life. [17:34] I just tell myself that she knew it was cold. [17:35] just one in many hawt chicks out there. [17:35] last night the roads where covered in sloppy hot chicks. [17:35] sloppy chicks are awesome [17:35] yech.. spambot.. have fun with it. See you all later [17:36] AnTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:36] AnTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [17:36] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [17:36] MarderIII: who? [17:36] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left ##slackware. [17:36] lol O.o [17:36] hmm [17:37] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [17:37] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:40] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [17:40] howdy everyone. happy new year :D [17:40] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] i don't like the idea of my isp keeping logs of the sites i visit and the files i download. will a proxy server help me? [17:41] nope [17:42] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:42] you are here, next comes your ISP, then proxy and the rest of the internet [17:43] Pig_Pen: will anything help me achieve what i want? [17:43] john_dee (n=id@95-29-8-233.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:43] wardriving [17:44] stealing someone else wifi connection [17:44] elses [17:44] tor might help [17:44] antler: The Tor network can help you [17:44] hahah wardriving is out of the question... [17:44] antiwire: ok, tor [17:44] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] antiwire: so when i'm running tor, what does my isp see, if i visit www.nothingbutgoats.com, for example? [17:45] They see nothing. It is encrypted [17:46] and the website i visit doesn't see my ip? [17:46] Correct [17:46] antiwire: thanks. sounds like it's exactly what i'm looking for [17:47] Action: hiptobecubic is disappointed that nothingbutgoats.com isn't a real website [17:47] hahaha [17:49] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.96.223) joined ##slackware. [17:49] http://imagebin.org/77863 nothing but goats [17:50] anyone knows how to cocnfigure ppp to connect using a huawei e156g modem? [17:50] I dont get why everyone seems using wvdial [17:51] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.17.233) joined ##slackware. [17:51] greetings nachox [17:52] greetings [17:52] :) [17:53] hitest: goong hey my little fat choi! :D [17:53] happy new year to you too, antler:) [17:54] fwc (n=fwc@cpe-204-210-154-184.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:54] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:54] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:54] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:55] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] looks like no one did it [17:57] basherror (n=basherro@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] back when i had dialup i used an external serial hardware modem, and kde-3.x had an easy to use dialup tool in the kdenetwork package [17:58] I would like it kiss [17:58] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] you can always develop it yourself [17:58] the modem needs some initialization command that specifies an access point [17:59] the one in kde-3.x was as easy to use as the dialup tool in win98 [17:59] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-201-124.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] kppp [18:00] tf00 (n=tf00@cpc1-lutn4-0-0-cust325.lutn.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [18:00] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [18:06] Suzanne^^ (i=gringo24@41.236.14.121) left irc: Connection timed out [18:07] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.93.148) joined ##slackware. [18:09] hey, can anyone critique a short writeup i just did? was trying to get my SB600 fakeraid working under Slack without any luck.. wanted to know if my solution was missing anything/easy to understand [18:09] http://www.alphabinarix.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61 [18:09] dear All, does anybody use hplip? (drivers for HP printers) there's no slackware distro in distros list, when i built it from sources it doesn't work :( [18:10] dimon: hplip is part of slackware [18:10] dimon: slackware works just fine with my hp p2015 [18:10] works great with my HP D2430 [18:11] sahk0: hm, i heard about it, but i cant find any similar to /etc/rc.hplip [18:11] sahk0: how should i use it?.. [18:11] http://localhost:631 [18:11] su -c "chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.cups" [18:11] cups [18:11] su -c "/etc/rc.d/rc.cups start" [18:12] hahaha "dear ALL" [18:12] hi fire|bird :) [18:12] antler: Hey stranger, how's it going? [18:12] :P [18:12] fire|bird: pretty good. happy new year! how've you been? [18:12] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:12] antler: Happy New Year to you as well. I've been excellent, thanks. :) [18:13] tf00 (n=tf00@cpc1-lutn4-0-0-cust325.lutn.cable.ntl.com) left irc: [18:15] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-129-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [18:15] i there [18:16] oh, shit. I have removed hplip that was been installed with slackware. How do i install it back? :'( [18:16] Action: dimon is dude [18:17] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:19] fwc (n=fwc@cpe-204-210-154-184.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:21] hplip-3.9.4b-i486-2.txz /ap ? [18:21] dimon: su -c "slackpkg install hplip" but you may have issues if you don't remove the one you built from source first. [18:22] antler: yup, ap/ [18:22] antler: yes, i already found it and installed. [18:22] antler: but there's no /etc/rc.cups :( [18:22] dimon: /etc/rc.d/rc.cips [18:22] rc.cups [18:24] fire|bird: oh, yes. it is. i have started it, and.. hmm... [18:24] dimon: if you started cups, then in your web browser, type localhost:631 in the address bar. [18:24] fire|bird: wow!! [18:26] bow down to tha bird! [18:26] antler: You learn quick. ;) [18:26] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [18:27] * bows down to the bird [18:27] antler :) [18:27] fire|bird: you should change your nickname to firefox [18:27] thumbs: lol, Mozilla would come after me. :P [18:27] firefoxy? [18:28] fire|bird: you are aware of the old name for firefox, right? [18:28] thumbs: indeed, was firebird, and before that, phoenix [18:28] so I guess, either way I'm doomed. [18:29] antler: Sound's like something a girl would use for a nick, the foxy part anyway. [18:30] fire|bird: you might be able to bait old guys and perhaps eventually work for the fbi [18:30] hahahaha [18:30] lmao [18:30] fwc (i=0@cpe-204-210-154-184.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] fire|bird: finally, it works [18:31] thanks all [18:31] dimon: \o/, congrats. [18:36] hahah tor makes web pages load as fast as 14.4k modems from the late 90s [18:36] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:36] well, +'s and -'s, i guess. [18:37] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [18:37] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [18:37] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [18:38] basherror (n=basherro@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: [18:39] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:41] I need slackware livecd or something [18:42] with ppp [18:42] dissociative: get slax [18:42] I would like one that comes without all X stuff [18:42] vianna (i=c8656ea3@gateway/web/freenode/x-stqndgtvotoayssp) joined ##slackware. [18:42] slax is now zenwalk [18:43] X is just a choice [18:43] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:43] InspectorCluseau: slax is not at all the same as zenwalk [18:43] Or I would be very much mistaken [18:45] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:45] re [18:46] I`ve generated my pair of GPG, private and public [18:46] and wish to make copies of them [18:46] in case of computer failure [18:47] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [18:47] public key is not a problem [18:47] but what in case of private ? [18:50] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.36) left irc: [18:51] vianna (i=c8656ea3@gateway/web/freenode/x-stqndgtvotoayssp) left ##slackware. [18:52] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Operation timed out [18:53] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [18:54] you can save it lots of places mac- put it on CDr or usb thumbdrive, or open it with a text editor and print it, or hire a stone mason to chisel it on to granite [18:55] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [18:55] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:55] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] but ow can I save secret key to a file [18:55] ? [18:56] l [18:56] if you guys can quick .. i have a folder with a mpg in it .. i want to make video_ts and audio_ts .. i did a dvdauthor -o video/ video.mpg -T .. it errors out [18:56] if you made it as root then it is in /root/.gpg/ [18:57] sirius (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:58] Pig_Pen: You sure ? [18:58] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:58] make that /root/.gnupg [18:59] I have /home/(user)/.gnupg [18:59] that could be it [19:00] hm, and waht if I have several proviate keys (i.e. for private home use, office use etc) and wish only make copy one of them ? [19:00] that is up to you to sort them out [19:01] mac-: export your private key then [19:02] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "Leaving" [19:03] alienBOB: how? :) [19:05] mac-: http://irtfweb.ifa.hawaii.edu/~lockhart/gpg/gpg-cs.html [19:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] thats a good page alienBOB i am saving it to a text file [19:10] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Operation timed out [19:10] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [19:11] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [19:11] alienBOB: thx [19:12] hey all if you don't mind .. im burning from the command line .. would i do a growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video movie/ -speed=2 [19:13] i want to write at 2x cause my writer sucks [19:13] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:14] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.125.64) joined ##slackware. [19:14] good night :) [19:17] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: [19:19] harls (n=gabba@pool-173-69-205-71.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:20] basherror (n=basherro@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] basherror (n=basherro@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:24] well see ya ^^ [19:24] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-129-248.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [19:29] is there a command for changing the keyboard layout in console? [19:30] setconsolefont [19:30] Sorry [19:31] loadkeys [19:31] The layout.... [19:31] cat /etc/rc.d/rc.keymap in case of doubt [19:32] mindstorm (i=1000@c-76-125-8-224.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:33] I'm on a live cd [19:35] one more question: where should i add path to $PATH, if i want to add it for all users? [19:35] dimon: i'd create a new file in /etc/profile.d to add the new component [19:35] dimon: /etc/profile [19:35] err .d [19:35] thanks [19:36] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-201-047.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:37] tappitahti (n=tappitah@88-196-188-224-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] what is the difference between the ppp utility of slackware and debian? [19:37] they seem like totally different [19:37] xskoulax (n=Chris@sutton-family.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173.7.177.13) joined ##slackware. [19:38] dissociative: they are, but both use pppd in the end [19:38] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [19:39] raph0x88_ (n=raph0x88@189.13.125.64) joined ##slackware. [19:40] err.. i have created /etc/profile.d/my_file.sh, added to it "export TEST_VAR=blabla", save, exit, then "sh /etc/profile.d/my_file.sh", and "echo $TEST_VAR" returns empty. Why? [19:40] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.125.64) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:41] Nick change: raph0x88_ -> raph0x88 [19:43] urthwrm_ (n=hooch@203-214-62-77.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [19:43] dimon: because it runs in a subshell [19:44] dimon: maybe you meant ". /etc/whatever" or "source /etc/whatever" [19:44] woah [19:44] I lost my dns servers [19:44] dissociative: this what happends if you don't tie them down. [19:44] haha [19:45] but its Im on windows [19:46] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [19:47] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [19:47] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [19:47] this 7 contains fail [19:47] rg3: thanks [19:49] brb [19:49] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:51] What has dos2unix been renamed to in Slackware 13.0 again? [19:52] nathanbw (n=nathan@24-117-63-230.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] and one more quest.. I have added new path to $PATH, and "which" correctly found app in new path, but "whereis" returns nothing. How can i make "whereis" knows it too? [19:54] alkos333: afaik dos2unix has never been in slackware, i always used "fromdos" and "todos" [19:55] dimon: whereis should look in PATH too [19:55] alkos333: or vim :) [19:56] Ah.. those are the commands. [19:56] Hmm.. I thought I've used that in Slackware before. [19:56] Maybe I was ssh'ed into a different machine.. [19:56] rg3: yep, i know, but really: which knows, but whereis no [19:56] Thanks though [19:57] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:57] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [19:57] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:57] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:57] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:58] dimon: oops: "whereis has a hard-coded path, so may not always find what you're looking for." [19:58] that's in the BUGS section of the manpage [19:58] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [19:58] rg3: wow. ok, thanks.. but strange.. [19:59] hey all after a growisofs when it is done do i have to do anything else or is it done ? 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[20:05] admasnd (n=amason6@75.21.74.207) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:08] for some reason i put the dvd in and it dosen't autoplay .. yet i put a retial dvd in and it autoplays .. should i have made it into an iso first or what [20:08] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.96.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:11] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [20:11] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "Leaving" [20:13] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:16] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:16] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [20:19] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CDA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:24] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:24] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [20:26] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173.7.177.13) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:27] escaflown (n=elom@d198-53-127-25.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] escaflown (n=elom@d198-53-127-25.abhsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [20:27] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:27] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [20:28] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [20:30] escaflown (n=elom@d198-53-127-25.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] escaflown (n=elom@d198-53-127-25.abhsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [20:32] RichardH (n=RichardH@64.134.222.67) joined ##slackware. [20:34] john_dee (n=id@95-29-8-233.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [20:35] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:35] Hello People. [20:36] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.17.233) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:38] anybody around? [20:38] I'm here. Just lurking [20:39] vldmr (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [20:39] chuck56 (n=chuck56@66.7.171.116) left irc: "Leaving" [20:40] hmph directories can't have colons in their names ? [20:40] fhobia, no [20:40] ? [20:41] why not? [20:41] they can, you gotta escape them. [20:41] ah, its FAT32 limitation it seems [20:41] oh on fat32.... [20:41] yeah fat32 has a lot of limiations on naming (and more importantly size) [20:42] I have a weird issue with my current slack install. [20:42] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [20:43] when it's connected to a wifi, and the lid is shut and I take it out to another location, it's basically stuck after opening the lid. running /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart just freezes after exitting wlan0. [20:43] sudo su. freezes. [20:43] sudo anything freezes. [20:43] reboot freezes. Command just hangs. [20:44] have to pretty much hard boot to get it to initialize properly again. [20:44] did i fix this for you already? [20:44] didn't i fix* [20:45] you fixed the lid thing. [20:45] :) [20:45] the lid is fine, it stays fine and doesn't go to sleep or anything. [20:45] but now the wifi is also hung. Which I rarely noticed before 'coz the whole lid thing. [20:45] *'coz of [20:46] It seems like I should disconnect from wifi A before walking away with laptop out of the range of wifi and then attempting rc.inet1 restart. [20:46] yes, so do that next time. [20:47] but in case I'm in a rush, walking away out of range shouldn't get it frozen. [20:47] do't you think? [20:47] also, your questions are very long paragraphs, almost like a novel, and they tend to repeat the text is the same as the one you used when you got me to help you (which i still think is weird) so please next time, paste your HUGE question on pastebin.com [20:48] Nebulus (n=Nebulus@86.106.94.121) joined ##slackware. [20:48] 8) [20:48] sorry, I noticed the convo always drag while the whoel story slowly comes. So I describe the scenario completely now. [20:48] Nebulus (n=Nebulus@86.106.94.121) left irc: Client Quit [20:48] you can tell I've been asking for lot of help on irc. [20:49] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] yeah well the issue is you as the same thing daily [20:49] sorry the same scenario causes so many different issues. [20:49] i fixed that issue and the wifi was working (which is what you just described). only after i pointed that out did you change to wifi crashes after walking out of range. [20:50] mbohun: get started on gentoo yet ? [20:50] to be honest, i don't believe the scenario (ie i don't believe if you walk out of wifi range that you are forced to hard reboot) [20:51] with all due respect read my question at 19:44. It says /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restarts freezes. [20:51] slackwarebob, could it be your wireless driver? Maybe try unloading then reloading the kernel driver for your wireless. [20:53] good afternoon slackers. [20:53] fhobia: building a spare box for it, but i already tried gentoo in past, the reason why i m going to try it again is to compare how much space "my default" install takes something like base + X +windowmaker + base gnome libs + kde libs + kde base [20:53] RichardH: built in kernel driver? or the module? [20:53] mbohun: :-) [20:55] slackwarebob, depends on what your wireless uses. What chipset does your wireless use? Just so you know, it's been a loooong time since I've used slackware. [20:57] RichardH: lspci shows Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. lsmod shows iwl3945. that should be it. [20:57] RichardH: so you're saying after it hangs, just trying rmmod/modprobe'ing it again? [20:58] RichardH: I have used kubuntu on this same hardware and it never had this issue. So either the drivers on slackware might be a little older, or I haven't set it up correctly. [20:59] slackwarebob: when do you have problems? [21:00] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:00] XGizzmo: when taking the laptop connected to wifi A out of range then attempting to /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart. [21:00] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:00] slackwarebob, it could be older drivers. I have the 4965 and I've used the 3945 drivers and I remember having issues. It wasn't Slackware though. But you can maybe try rmmod/modprobe and see if that resolves the freezing. [21:00] XGizzmo: with wifi B. [21:01] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [21:01] slackwarebob, Also, how/what are you using to connect to your wireless? GUI, command line??? [21:01] I have the same chipset and don't have that problem [21:02] I do have a problem if I suppend the laptop. [21:02] RichardH: when I take my laptop to another location, I just do /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart. both locations are configured in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [21:02] XGizzmo, slackwarebob originally said he had a problem when he closed the lid so it may have been caused by suspending [21:02] XGizzmo: mancha helped me configure it to my lid down will not suspend/sleep. [21:03] slackwarebob, XGizzmo may have hit the nail in the head. When you close your lid and have this issue, does your laptop suspend or hibernate? [21:03] ohdannyboy (n=dan@pool-96-254-20-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] slackwarebob, nevermind. I just read your reply to XGizzmo [21:04] slackwarebob, do you see anything in your logs? [21:05] RichardH: which logs? [21:08] slackwarebob, your messages log maybe [21:09] I forgot were it's at in slackware [21:09] I am looking thru /var/logs/messages, there's /var/logs/pm-suspend.log but it has no entries after I disabled it on 30th. [21:10] slackwarebob, that's the one. If you disabled suspend, I doubt it's that. [21:10] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:10] yeah perusing /var/log/messages now. [21:11] dimon (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:12] slackwarebob, maybe the problem is that your wireless card had strouble switching to scanning mode when you lose the first connection. [21:13] dimon (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [21:13] make a file /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules add SUSPEND_MODULES="iwl3945" to the file should fix the suspend problem. [21:14] XGizzmo: does that work? I think the proper place to add that is /etc/pm/defaults [21:14] hello All! please help: i have installed new Qt 4.6.0, and it was installed in /usr/local/Trolltech . So, libraries can't be found. How do i make system search libs in /usr/local/Trolltech/lib ? [21:15] rworkman: workd for me :) [21:15] XGizzmo: cool :) [21:15] XGizzmo: then I should make one to launch the module on reanimation? [21:15] XGizzmo, slackwarebob said he disabled suspend on his laptop. [21:15] slackwarebob: nope [21:15] just the one file is all [21:15] slackwarebob: pm-utils knows to do that if it unloads the module [21:16] I know I disabled the suspend. But eventually I'd like to turn it back on once I get the hang of how slackware acpi stuff must be setup. [21:16] RichardH: yes, but ideally that solution eliminates the need to disable suspend. [21:16] please, help... [21:16] slackwarebob: I wonder if you've got suspend still going on via acpi scripts or some such [21:16] dimon: why did you install newer qt4? [21:16] StevenR_ (n=foo@95.146.67.87) joined ##slackware. [21:16] rworkman, true. Although, it's funny how it happens when he closes the lid. Maybe his laptop is still suspending. [21:16] rworkman: my /var/log/messages says ACPI action lid is not defined. [21:17] kde-4.2.x and 4.3.x don't work properly in many cases with qt-4.6.0 [21:17] rworkman: i've a troubles installing lightlang, and i tried to upgrage all necessary packages [21:17] rworkman, you beat me to it [21:17] :) [21:17] RichardH: well closing the lid is one thing. but mostly I close it and then take the laptop out to another location (different apartment). out of range of wifi A. [21:17] slackwarebob: are you in a position where you can try this without closing the lid? [21:17] should i remove new qt4 and install it from slackware disc? [21:18] dimon: what Slackware version are you running? [21:18] rworkman: 13 [21:18] rworkman: no, currently no. I just put it in the car and drive off from my apartment. But next time I leave, I'll leave the lid open. [21:18] dimon: then you should use the qt4 shipped with 13.0. If it's not new enough for you, I think you should consider whether you really need the other thing that wants newer qt4 [21:18] it will make for an interesting laptop carrying with the neighbors wondering, tho. [21:19] :) [21:19] Fentruck (n=Fentruck@24-247-201-126.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:19] Fentruck (n=Fentruck@24-247-201-126.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:20] sirius (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] slackwarebob: the other thing to try, if the problem occurs again (regardless of lid status) is unloading and reloading the wireless driver [21:20] remove newer qt4 and install qt4 from slackware disc is right idea? [21:20] However, it sounds like something is OOPSing the kernel, which would explain the problems doing *everything* afterward. [21:20] rworkman, ha! way ahead of you on that one. :) [21:20] :) [21:21] rworkman: yeah, I'll try that as well, it it lets me. even sudo hangs. [21:21] If you're getting an OOOPS, there should be messages spammed to the active terminals, consoles, and the logs. [21:21] my log says nothing tho. [21:21] Hey guys. I have lighttpd set up for a virtual host (ikhider.com) and pointed my godaddy hosting to the corrected i.p address, however I get 404 Not Found when I go to the desired domain. The lighttpd block appears like this [21:21] Can you guys see something wrong with that? [21:21] $HTTP["host"] =~ "(^|\.)ikhider.com$" [21:22] dimon: yes [21:22] altho, after I send restart, it logs: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI [21:22] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:22] askhader: are you runnign that server locally? [21:22] askhader: would it be better if you used the lighttpd support channels rather than slackware ? [21:22] rworkman: oh, but it will be qt3.. [21:22] dimon: no, it won't, not in 13.0 [21:22] rworkman, I haven't used slackware in a long time but I remember it's the only distro that I HAD to check the MD5SUMs because it would act "funny" sometimes until I downloaded a new .iso. You think that may be slackwarebob's problem? I doubt Pat would let something out with wireless issues [21:23] clijunkie (i=1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] ok, first the correct place to configure wifi? [21:23] askhader: as in, are you hosting the domain on a box inside your local network? If so, put the *internal* ip address in your browser and see if the page displays. If so, you have a routing issue :) [21:23] I configured it in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [21:23] rworkman: I'm trying to get virtual hosts to function using lighttpd [21:24] askhader: that's nice, but it doesn't addres my question. [21:24] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Connection timed out [21:24] clijunkie (i=1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [21:24] 404 sounds like a bad server config [21:24] then I typically just do /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart so it will pick the first available from /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and connect. [21:24] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:24] RichardH: possibly, but a kernel bug is out of our control usually [21:24] rworkman: It's on a VPS [21:25] RichardH: so you're using not slackware? then what? win7? [21:25] askhader: okay, then that answers my question and eliminates that possibility. Thanks. [21:25] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [21:25] rworkman, I'm sure it is. It's just that I never had a problem with Slackware other than the corrupted download. [21:26] askhader: and in that case, yeah, it's probably better asked in the lighttpd support area. I have no experience iwth it, and likely not many others here will either -- httpd is shipped with Slackware, so I expect most of us use it (I do) [21:26] rworkman: I pity you, then. That abomination isn't worth tackling =P [21:26] slackwarebob, Fedora 12. This is my work computer so everything has to work without much fussing. Slackware was and is my favorite distro. I just don't have time to mess around with it [21:27] StevenR__ (n=foo@95.146.67.168) joined ##slackware. [21:27] RichardH: cool. so what kinda work makes you work on fedora 12? [21:27] or on any linux? [21:27] askhader the vh line looks like a regular expression [21:28] (^|.*\.domain.com) try this ... [21:28] StevenR_ (n=foo@95.146.67.87) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:28] with domain.com you're ikhider or something like that [21:28] askhader: it just works. :) [21:28] slackwarebob, I own an IT consulting company. I'm not MADE to work on Fedora. I just rather use linux than Windows. Most of my tools are on Linux. When doing virus removals, I use my laptop to download stuff for the infected computer and I don't worry about infecting my computer [21:29] Action: rworkman understands that :) [21:29] your* [21:30] RichardH: that's pretty cool. Like most IT, my company uses winxp. I use vmware winxp to VPN to work. I also use that image to download stuff I don't trust. [21:30] slackwarebob, so yeah, Linux is a standard issue in my company. Openoffice.org instead of MS Office, GEdit for web design, etc. Unfortunately, I still have to use Photoshop and Illustrator sometimes [21:31] RichardH: I'm starting to like openoffice. It's not ms office suite. but for free it totally is good replacement. [21:31] at home, I use openoffice 'coz I don't want to buy office. :) [21:32] StevenR (n=foo@95.146.69.233) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:32] There are very few docs that won't work in OOo for me. That means something too, since I work in education, where MS software is rampant. [21:32] slackwarebob, There isn't anything I haven't been able to do with Openoffice. It's a complete replacement for me. I still need to use Windows for Peachtree that my accountant needs me to use. Also, there aren't any opensource accounting packages that just work without fussing. I don't really have time for that unfortunately [21:32] rworkman: ... university ? [21:33] uses slackware at work, rdesktop to a xp box with quickbooks and outlook/exchange [21:33] any public school [21:33] goarilla: secondary [21:33] highschool [21:33] Unix is generally supported decently at the university level [21:33] good evening all [21:33] yeah it is but it depends on the departement [21:34] RichardH: it's probably a good replacement. It's a matter of learning to use the new tool. So in time, I'll probably totally be used to it. [21:34] At least locally, the University of Alabama uses and supports it. Our local LUG has three UA IT folks in it :) [21:34] TClayton: ola [21:34] if you're in engineering with lots of people or in maths or comp.sci then well it is [21:34] RichardH: it does have a higher startup time which is annoying. And of course, the update notices are annoying. [21:34] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: "Leaving" [21:34] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [21:35] i work at a small department of the university and i can say i'm fucked in the ass [21:35] our unix admin/my boss/2nd it guy here does stuff like this more files | grep keyword [21:35] rworkman, that's funny. I've been able to open even complicated word documents with no problems. Have you tried IBM Lotus Symphony? It's free too [21:35] RichardH: I haven't. Re compat, they *all* open, but occasionally the formatting isn't quite right. [21:36] I've yet to run across one that I couldn't *make* correct with a bit of tinkering though. [21:36] now the boss above him who has quit/pension ... has made us all move to exchange/outlook because the guys up in the head decided the mail servers should go exchange [21:36] and he migrated the entire lotus calendar to outlook as well because frankly he likes it [21:37] ick [21:37] rworkman, yeah, that's true. I have had some alignment issues but I don't remember having any with the current version. Anyway, it's not such a big issue with me. If I need office, we're a Microsoft Partner (yuck. We have to) so we can get it cheaper [21:37] Oh my. he should loose his geek card. [21:37] Same here :) [21:37] lol [21:38] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [21:38] alignment? firestone offer lifetime for 500bucks. [21:38] Oo in a lot of cases is like the best last resort ever whenever office throws a file corrupt or can't open bullshit, Oo will open it ! [21:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] True. I am the "goto guy" when docs won't open for anyone else :) [21:39] haha [21:39] heck i wouldn't even call it last resort because browsing all the ms knowledge base articles and doing all their tricks usually ammount to nothing anyway [21:39] Yeah, I've had to do that for many of my clients [21:39] lol, our work is better than that. When the docs do'nt open, we tell the sender to resend. [21:39] then we wait. [21:39] :) [21:39] StevenR (n=foo@95.146.67.167) joined ##slackware. [21:39] then they probably go to you guys and complain. [21:40] i have to deal with 'research assistants and professors' [21:40] slackwarebob, well, we can't do that. We get paid to fix this stuff [21:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] and one professor who uses a solaris server? to run his pascal code [21:40] RichardH: we have our version of similar customers. [21:40] and 2 other professors who use it to run old fortran code [21:40] anyway, see you guys a little later. :) [21:40] that's the only real UNIX work we get done [21:41] goarilla, Some of these so called techs are lazy and just use exchange because it's easy. Sure, it has some nice features but I don't think it's worth the price if you have several users [21:41] rworkman: rworkman: wooh, seems works. thank you [21:41] i do think the same at least thunderbird saves everything into a big text file with a known format [21:42] a little script can split it, sort it, save all the binary data, eg ... [21:42] it's practically impossible to recover a pst outlook file [21:42] escaflown (n=elom@d198-53-127-25.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [21:42] escaflown (n=elom@d198-53-127-25.abhsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [21:42] so what does all of us do make sure all of it stays on the server [21:43] goarilla, YES. That's a big plus. I can't tell you how many times Outlook has choked on a large .pst file. It was supposed to have been fixed with their service packs but it still happens. [21:43] but that still gets me to get sweared at when they fuck up [21:44] and that my friends [21:44] is why i drink [21:44] goarilla, I usually tell them in advance. I tell them the problems and what they might possibly do to avoid them otherwise I will have to charge them A LOT and still might not be able to fix the problem. [21:45] i'm an underling RichardH [21:45] and an underling of people who have gotten their position by cheer luck and unrelated albeit pretty high eductations [21:45] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [21:46] i also live in a country who takes a diploma above experience/skills [21:46] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:46] goarilla, I hate to say it, but if someone needs the "exchange" features, then exchange is probably the best thing for them. When I show them how much it's going to cost, they tend to change their minds. [21:46] the thing with exchange is [21:46] you don't mind exchange [21:47] buy* [21:47] you buy a license to run exchange and licenses for people who want to use exchange [21:47] for me that's just blackmail [21:47] guuz (n=guuz@201.248.206.38) joined ##slackware. [21:47] goarilla, lucky you. When I was in school, computer education was just starting. Not much more than Lotus 123 and maybe WordPrefect. [21:47] guuz (n=guuz@201.248.206.38) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:47] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:48] wow, nuts, k3b updated with kde4 has really gone down the drain [21:48] goarilla, yes. I totally agree. Then, devices need licenses too. Then they make the whole license thing confusing. You need to fart, you need a license. You look at it, you need a license. [21:48] constant crashing :-P and cursor is locked into hour glass [21:48] huh RichardH ? [21:48] i'm talking about the place i WORK [21:49] goarilla, well, I'm just making fun of the stupid idea of licenses. [21:49] yes but i was replying about the lotus wp shit [21:49] but yes i know [21:49] if they has maybe a once price (not too high) for unlimited users, then I'd still hate it but I could understand [21:49] there is licenses for users [21:49] fhobia: yeah i had issues with k3b also, only uses xfce,xfburn or cli [21:49] licenses for machines [21:49] licenses for servers [21:50] ohdannyboy, you said exchange [21:50] fhobia: I guess thats why it is still alpha [21:50] oh nevermind. I just reread what you wrote [21:51] pfff [21:51] monday i have to get back to work [21:51] third year at that crapfest [21:51] StevenR__ (n=foo@95.146.67.168) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:52] we use samba for pdc [21:52] goarilla, in the U.S., the problem I've had looking for jobs is that you get these stuck up Sys Admins with MCSE's that think that if you don't have one you don't know what you're doing. Even though I can answer all their questions completely and can ask them questions they can't answer. [21:52] XGizzmo: yeah, i'm just disappointed, because the previous versions shipped with slack were pretty solid [21:52] we use samba 3.0.14a released april 14 2005 [21:52] XGizzmo: this version also leaves a bunch of kde daemons running in the background that never quit even though they are supposed to [21:52] TClayton: cool, i'll check out those programs [21:52] my boss orders overpriced new machines with comes with 7 [21:53] we skipped vista but one day he decides we'll go with 7 [21:53] they don't work with our version of samba [21:53] so i loaded a slackware vm [21:53] asked for our smb.conf got the reply i don't thrust you with that kind of information [21:54] so i replicated a samba domain from scratch which took a while tho ... [21:54] compiled 21 verions of samba [21:54] got the test domain kind of working and no i will test every version ... [21:55] you now what he says [21:55] sounds like a pain in the rear, glad i dont work in IT [21:55] goarilla, what problems were you having with Windows 7 and Samba? Was it authentication? You need access to the server if you're expected to resolve this issue [21:55] fhobia: have you considered xfburn? [21:56] goarilla, what? [21:56] that's ok so i can tell ... xxx yyyy the guy who tested it, documented and adjusted the swat/webmin frontends to our needs if he has an aprropriate updated rpm [21:56] he has a team of *nix gurus ... blablablabaa [21:56] i was really shocked and appaled [21:56] rworkman: i'm trying to rip an audio cd into flac - doesn't seem to do that ? [21:56] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) joined ##slackware. [21:57] i built 21 versions [21:57] TClayton, rworkman: found a script called "abcde" on SlackBuilds that could help :-P [21:57] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Connection timed out [21:57] yes, probably [21:57] 3.x 3.2.x 3.4.x .... [21:57] and the fucker is gonna wait for another guy to have it fixed [21:57] goarilla, so are they using your versions that you built? [21:57] no [21:57] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [21:57] we use redhat or centos [21:57] i think [21:58] he doesn't thrust me on the servers* [21:58] because he doesn't understand what i'm doing on my machine [21:58] his exact words ! [21:58] sorry for the rant but i'm miserable just thinking about going back to my work on monday [21:59] goarilla, yeah, that's the kind of stupidity I've ran into. The "I don't know what it is so it's wrong..." attitude. That's one reason I started my own company [22:00] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: "Leaving" [22:00] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:01] So I have just a very simple $HTTP["host"] =~ "ikhider\.com$" { } and still I get the bloody 404 [22:01] Any idea why? [22:01] goarilla, we have a client so couldn't receive email from one of their clients (a neighboring city). Their email was being blocked. I had to do all sorts of things and finally tell them that their Sys Admin didn't setup their email server properly and also reference the proper RFC's. Of course their Sys Admin said everthing is fine on their end. No one else is having a problem. They aren't the only ones. [22:01] goarilla, what country are you in? [22:01] belgium [22:03] askhader have you tried my suggestion before ? or else try to remove $ [22:03] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:03] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [22:03] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:03] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] i'm not sure but some HTTP 1.1 requests could have a carriage return before end of line [22:04] goarilla, in the U.S. alot of techs/Sys Admins usually don't stay at one company long. They are always moving around finding better opportunities. If they stay too long a one job, it actually makes them look bad. Maybe it's time for you to see what other opportunities are out there for you. [22:04] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:04] RichardH: i'll never get through HR here [22:05] they need a bachelor in computer science and 3 years of experience in a sys admin level at least for a junior position [22:05] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:05] goarilla, not there. Another company. Maybe a competing company. [22:05] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [22:05] i'm talking here as in [22:05] this country [22:06] goarilla, I can't tell you how many people with an MCSE I've interviewed that couldn't troubleshoot to save their live. Or web developers that couldn't make a simple page using notepad. They said, Dreamweaver isn't installed. How can I make it. [22:07] askhader: > $HTTP["host"] =~ "(^|\.)askhader\.com$" { < maybe [22:07] TClayton: that was his first try :D [22:07] goarilla: The problem is CGI related [22:07] ah [22:07] goarilla: See I forwarded my domain when in actuality I want it to maintain the domain but display the contents of another server [22:07] aaaah [22:08] There is a formal name for it [22:08] it's php/perl ? [22:08] No [22:08] rc-script [22:08] =P [22:08] werc.cat-v.org [22:08] goarilla, sorry to hear that. That sucks. Would it then be that much of a problem to get the degree. There doesn't seem to be any other way. [22:08] goarilla: This page explains it http://werc.cat-v.org/docs/web_server_setup/lighttpd [22:08] my mother needs my money [22:09] since my father doesn't really work [22:09] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:10] goarilla, I can understand that. [22:10] we're in a recession after all [22:10] MaTThewP (n=Rachu@cpe-24-95-54-134.columbus.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:11] goarilla, is it bad there? Some people here in the U.S. either don't understand how bad things are or just don't want to. [22:11] lulz! tell your lazy dad to get off his arse and get a job! [22:11] well [22:11] goarilla, some nearby cities, unemployment is 12-13% [22:11] this is a record year for company bankrupcies [22:11] and the prospect for next year is even worse [22:12] lots of companies are going bankrupt while the CEOs laugh all the way to the bank with multi-million dollar annual bonuses & salaries [22:12] goarilla, Here in the U.S., the Government is just printing money by the boat load. People don't seem to understand that printing more money devalues it. So we may not be too bad right now but it's all going to hit us later. [22:12] that means the cutting of jobs especially in the fields whose importance are not directly visible ... like IT [22:13] escaflown (n=elom@d198-53-127-25.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] escaflown (n=elom@d198-53-127-25.abhsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [22:13] yeah you're just postponing the hangover [22:13] but our companies do the same tho [22:13] the rich & powerful gamed the system until its ready to collapse, i hope it comes back to bite em [22:13] goarilla, yeah, they do that here too. Accountants, CEO's, etc. don't understand that computers need maintenance and looking after. Calling for IT when soemthing goes wrong is too late. [22:14] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [22:14] they keep procrastinating all the financial payments they ought to be [22:14] make* [22:15] but i'm gonna go to bed [22:15] it 4:15 here [22:15] good night everybody [22:15] Pig_Pen, it just may. If our economy collapses, the rich will be sh... bricks. Everyone else will be used to hard work. So it's just be a different day, same sh... [22:15] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] goarilla, good night [22:16] Delahunt (n=robert@fa210-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [22:17] good evening everyone [22:17] hi mister fillpot [22:17] why is it that every civilian-grade "walmart bought" wireless router i've ever come in contact with sucked / been unstable / not worked according to the manual ? [22:18] K3yvn (n=mike@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] Delahunt, because all that crappy software that's installed on them to make things easier to configure is a piece of junk [22:18] seriously, when i finally get internet installed in my home i am going to buy a decent one [22:18] i never had this many problems with running SmoothWall on a machine hooked to a WAP 8-) [22:18] becase they are mass produced in china as cheaply as possible [22:19] things made in Japan were a lot better [22:19] Delahunt, take an old system and use something like PFSense and you shouldn't have any more problems. [22:19] Delahunt, barring any hardware failures of course [22:19] yes i already know this but thanks [22:19] Japan builds some great radios [22:19] i'm at a friend's house [22:19] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] he has a D-Link. 'nuff said [22:20] I have experienced the most problems with broadcom chips and their unstable wireless drivers, it's not beyond me to assume that some of the wal-mart routers use those POS [22:20] Delahunt, any D-Link product I've purchased for clients has failed. The only reason I bought them was that my supplier was very generous with replacements. [22:21] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@93.86.221.160) joined ##slackware. [22:21] yaesu, Icom or Kenwood should get in to building some wifi routers just a step or two above linksys or netgear or that other crappy consumer grade router [22:21] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.181.135) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:21] what's the next step up from the typical D-Link / NetGear / Linksys? what brand? [22:21] mfillpot, I believe the Linksys models do. I've used a Linksys WRT-54GL with DD-WRT and had fewer issues. I've heard people going as far as cutting a hole in them and adding a fan. [22:22] exit [22:22] Pig_Pen, yeah, I like their Amateur radio equipment [22:22] Pig_Pen: amen. [22:22] oops :-[ [22:22] the wrt54g I am using is broadcom based and is unstable, dd-wrt is the only thing that keeps me from scrapping it [22:22] dimon (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: "leaving" [22:22] I'd *love* to see a Yaesu router. It would have to be indestructable. [22:23] haha [22:23] And do everything under the sun. [22:23] Yes :) [22:23] built like an old yaesu 101EE (like a tank) [22:23] mfillpot, the WRT54GL (notice the "L") has some sort of Linux on it instead of whatever they normally use. I've used that successfully before. [22:23] rworkman, Yaesu? [22:24] oh i see, Pig_Pen thanks [22:24] Delahunt: the amateur radio line equivalent to Vertex [22:24] rworkman, i'm going to write Pat and ask him to fix wicd and put it in /patches as a display of kindness to the wicd project [22:24] Action: Delahunt has no clue about amateur radio lines [22:25] yaesu have to many buttons and knobs [22:25] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:25] rworkman: I am here now. [22:25] Delahunt, I'm not too familiar either. I've had my Amateur Radio License since I was 15 but haven't done much with it. [22:25] Action: Delahunt sighs [22:26] Lots of Hams here :) [22:26] studying to get a ham ticket [22:26] i could get a ham license, but i dont care enough to get one, i do like to listen to HF, not much interested in radio above 30MHz unless i am listening to the cops [22:26] hammin' it up i can tell [22:26] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] rworkman: thanks for the model number. [22:26] panzer: np [22:27] just thinking about racking the machine and such. [22:27] RichardH: I'm still using an old d-link wireless g adapter (atheros based) and the wrt54g v2.0 with dd-wrt. This combination is quite stable in except that I have had some issues getting windows machine to quickly connect with the router. [22:28] Delahunt: what is wrong with the current wicd build? [22:29] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Connection timed out [22:30] mfillpot, those have been fine. The only wireless D-Link products I've had issues with were routers. I know the atheros based adapter were better. Anything is better than Broadcom [22:30] so what wireless routers are good? netgear ? [22:30] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [22:31] rworkman: where is rob0? [22:31] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:31] RichardH: not everything is better than broadcom, realtek adapter have proven to be even more troublesome [22:31] D3lahunt (n=robert@fa210-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [22:32] mfillpot, that's funny. I've had some realtek nics that have been EXTREMELY reliable. Oh wait, you mean wireless don't you? Never tried one of those [22:32] Delahunt (n=robert@fa210-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:32] fhobia: for consumer uses I like the linksys ddwrt line, that is after they have been flashed with dd-wrt or tomatoe [22:33] ah, ok [22:33] RichardH: the realtek audio is nice and ethernet cards have been good, but the new realtek wifi adapters they are putting into notebooks and very unstable and they have problems accepting input on 64-bit systems [22:34] fhobia, I'm currently using a Buffalo router and haven't had any problems. Actually, I've had zero in the past 2 years that I've had it. [22:34] D3lahunt (n=robert@fa210-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Client Quit [22:34] Delahunt (n=robert@fa210-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [22:35] i'm about to ask a Japanese person to go with me to buy a Japanese WAP [22:35] cool, i have wrt54gs by linksys and i have to turn it on and off every few days because everything just dies [22:35] :-P [22:35] panzer: not here, I guess :) [22:36] panzer, ever play Jedi Knight Dark Forces II ? [22:36] fhobia: I had the same problem with mince before it was flashed, dd-wrt fixes that issue [22:36] uses tomato on my wrt54g [22:37] fhobia: what version is that router? [22:37] mfillpot: ah! [22:37] fhobia, I don't download a lot like some poeple do. I've heard people that download a lot of torrents, I mean A LOT, need to constantly reboot their Linksys routers. I've had to do it every couple of weeks. [22:37] mfillpot: don't know at the top of my head [22:38] RichardH: that is an issue with the maximum number of open ports on the router, depending on your model you can turn on additional memory to facilitate more open ports [22:38] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [22:38] man, linksys new site is horrid ... [22:38] fhobia, mfillpot has a point. An old wrt54g that I have didn't work properly until I flashed it with ddwrt. I have it to a friends parents and it's still working. Not all routers have enough memory for ddwrt. So you'll need to do some research on their website and get the proper instructions for your specific model. [22:39] fhobia: when you get the version number you can check http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database and you can find a guide to reimage it, or you can also look at tomatoe [22:39] oh nm, not that bad :-D [22:39] Nick change: notKlaatu -> klaatu [22:40] ok, i got version 1, mfillpot [22:40] mfillpot, I've never experienced it myself so I don't know. [22:41] fhobia: the wrt54gs v1.0 has 32MB of RAM and 8MB or flash, that has plenty of memory and can really be opened up with dd-wrt to do alot of good things [22:41] dchmelik1 (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [22:41] cool [22:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:42] i'll start reading the wiki [22:44] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] so does anybody use a usb hard drive with their laptop? do you unmount it before you suspend to ram ? does it power off automatically when you suspend ? [22:44] laters, sleepytime for me [22:44] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:46] Nick change: klaatu -> notKlaatu [22:46] any bastards around here runnin slack 13 and want some pre-compiled software packages? [22:46] what are the packages for ? [22:46] o that was an amsg [22:46] all sorts of things [22:46] http://downloads.gamingtilt.com/slack-packs/ [22:47] i486 slack 13 [22:47] slackin, we already have some (rworkman, alienBOB, and myself) [22:47] ;] [22:47] round 1: fight! [22:47] slackin, thanks. you may want to include the SlackBuild and source package areas (build directory, etc) [22:47] that way people can check your source and such [22:48] i did include the slackbuilds [22:48] but not the source [22:48] but i could [22:48] also, libdvdcss iirc is restricted from export [22:48] i could just upload the build dirs [22:48] from usa? [22:48] so you may need to limit IP access to that directory it's in to the US only [22:48] Action: Delahunt nods [22:49] hrm, maybe ill remove that for now [22:49] i could be wrong but check alienBOB's restricted build area, it's got a note that explains this [22:49] a lot of the ones i'm seeing are already available through rworkman and alienBOB but thanks for contributing 8-) [22:49] eh, another mirror? lol [22:49] ;p [22:49] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:49] well, more like another source [22:49] (yours is) [22:50] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:50] all compiled on a fresh machine, just installed two days ago [22:50] tested about 90% of them [22:50] all work great [22:50] a couple i did for someone else [22:50] and i dont use it, waiting to hear from him [22:50] but im confident it will work [22:50] compiled fine [22:50] you may want to consider doing the Virtual Box thing for that so that you can have a fresh build environment per project but ok [22:51] yea [22:51] true [22:51] it's a lot easier [22:52] unless you have a core 2 laptop without 64bit vitalization (in which case you're limited to 32bit) [22:52] that would be me [22:52] lol [22:53] i'm selling t-shirts 8-) [22:54] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.227.70) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[23:52] people, I want that in ls in a directory go to a variable [23:52] for example [23:52] in home directory there is an unique directory [23:53] /home/test [23:53] MYVAR=`ls ~/uniquedir` [23:53] mag0o: perfect [23:55] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:55] samuel (n=samuel@bhe200150026086.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [23:55] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) joined ##slackware. [23:56] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:00] --- Sat Jan 2 2010