[00:00] <Motoko-chan> Depends on how it is packed.
[00:00] <Motoko-chan> What are you trying to get?
[00:00] <campassi> an old winamp2.9 exe
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[00:00] <campassi> i want to get the default skin out of it
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[00:00] <campassi> i can't find the default winamp 2 skin, anywhere,
[00:01] <rworkman> edman007: re xlock, that could work
[00:01] <edman007> campassi, wine
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[00:02] <edman007> and exe is not a compression format, so if the standard compression programs can't read it then its probably not just a simple zip in an exe, luckily wine is pretty good with those decompress and install apps
[00:02] <campassi> ah, that should work edman007
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[00:08] <uSlacker> uncle
[00:08] <Urchlay> unzip, cabextract, p7zip, unrar are good candidates for those "compressed exe" files
[00:08] <Urchlay> eh, winamp's probaby p7zip, seeing as it's by nullsoft
[00:08] <uSlacker> Anyone have a straight forward way of upgrading BIOS on the dell PC that doesn't have Windows on it?
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[00:09] <TwinReverb> uSlacker, http://www.google.com/search?q=update+dell+bios+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[00:10] <uSlacker> TwinReverb: been all over google tonight
[00:10] <uSlacker> found a complicated process on LQ.o
[00:11] <TwinReverb> oh you wantan Easy Button (tm)
[00:11] <TwinReverb> sorry, i'm fresh out
[00:11] <TwinReverb> wish i could help you, i honestly do
[00:11] <uSlacker> maybe not an easy button
[00:11] <campassi> Lol
[00:11] <uSlacker> more like a possible button
[00:11] <rob0> Staples has them, $5
[00:12] <Urchlay> rather have a "fire phasers" button
[00:12] <Urchlay> mount on dashboard of my car
[00:12] <hitest> awesome
[00:12] <TwinReverb> apparently it is possible by the looks of dell's website
[00:12] <stealth-> the download link for aircrack-ng is bad in sbo :(
[00:12] <Urchlay> (the button's cheap, but the actual phasers are made of unobtainium...)
[00:12] <macavity> wow, i just stepped into the 2nd mellinnium... home banking is nice :-)
[00:12] <Urchlay> stealth-: report it in #slackbuilds
[00:13] <rob0> stealth-: I think it's a bad link anywhere :)
[00:13] <stealth-> Urchlay: ah, thats probably a better channel that #sbopkg (where they ignored me)
[00:13] <macavity> and my bank is not even a bitch about it.. anything browser that can run java can use it
[00:14] Action: TwinReverb knows someone who is made of afradium
[00:14] <Urchlay> TwinReverb: isn't that chemically the same thing as paranoidium?
[00:14] <TwinReverb> i think it
[00:15] <TwinReverb> 's related
[00:15] <Urchlay> ...that's what Tony Iommi's guitar strings are made of :)
[00:15] <TwinReverb> no more like virtuosium
[00:16] <rworkman> Someone mentioned that they were using FF 3.5; how's extension compat?
[00:17] <macavity> rworkman: good to see you so active on the xorg ml :-)
[00:18] <rworkman> macavity: well, I try.  It's tough there :/
[00:18] <macavity> rworkman: btw, mesa-7.4.4 an kernel .30 on -current works sweet wonders on 945
[00:18] <macavity> *and
[00:18] <rworkman> I know their hearts are in the right place, but those intel guys could break a titanium anvil
[00:18] <macavity> rworkman: oh yes, you better doubble and tripple check :P
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[00:20] <Urchlay> TwinReverb: heh, I'm now playing with a band that includes "War Pigs" in its repertoire... but also "Boot Scootin Boogie". Weird redneck metal thing...
[00:20] <macavity> rworkman: however, it looks like intel-2.8.0 is going to be a kernel-.31+ show only
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[00:21] <macavity> rworkman: but i am one happy camper as it is right now.. i can update the few bits and peices i have an interest in by hand, and everything else looks nice and stable
[00:21] <macavity> -current++ atm :-)
[00:22] <macavity> anyhows.. time to hit the bunk
[00:22] <rworkman> macavity: yeah, I know how that goes :)
[00:22] <rworkman> g'night
[00:22] <macavity> ... and thanks for all the fish! :-)
[00:22] <rworkman> hehe
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[00:33] <campassi> dang Wine takes a while to compile
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[00:44] <oda> Hi there!
[00:44] <oda> Does anybody know if (and why) I need to recompile util-linux-ng after install pam?
[00:45] <rworkman> oda: depends
[00:45] <Urchlay> only if you want/need util-linux-ng to actually use PAM
[00:46] <Urchlay> looks like all that would be affected by that might be /sbin/agetty
[00:46] <antiwire> oda:  what are you trying to do? A complete pam integration requires quite a few rebuilds
[00:46] <rworkman> oda: probably you don't, but I won't swear to it -- that's uncharted territory for me.  Slackware doesn't use u-l-ng's login tools, so it's probably not needed
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[00:46] <Thom1> hi people
[00:46] <Urchlay> (does agetty even read the password database at all, or does it just call /bin/login to do the dirty deed? /me has forgot)
[00:46] <oda> rworkman, Urchlay and antiware: thanks! I'm still trying to setup kerberos/afs network
[00:47] <oda> and I give up to do this without pam
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[00:47] <silvergold> Thom1: hi, how are you?
[00:47] <Thom1> silvergold, good, thanks
[00:47] <rworkman> Urchlay: I think login handles that
[00:48] <oda> So i think that I need a full pam integration
[00:48] <rworkman> oda: well, good luck with it.  It's going to be a fun ride, I suspect :)
[00:48] <oda> antiware: do you have a list? that will be great!
[00:49] <oda> rworkman: it is being ;)
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[00:49] <rworkman> hehe
[00:53] <antiwire> I have a secret suggestion to use as a base example
[00:53] <antiwire> http://rsync.slackware.pl/people/grzech/pam/src/slack12.2/
[00:54] <rob0> Urchlay: agetty runs login
[00:55] <oda> antiware: I sware I'll keep it secret
[00:55] <oda> rs
[00:56] <antiwire> and I did this list, suggested build order http://pastebin.ca/1480381
[00:57] <antiwire> the most difficult part is your pam configuration files. you can choose to use a pam.d/ structure or a single pam.conf file
[00:57] <Urchlay> rob0: I used to know stuff like that. Getting old :(
[00:59] <oda> antiware: here is my SlackBuild: http://www.ime.usp.br/~oda/Linux-PAM.SlackBuild
[00:59] <oda> I was planning to submit it to slackbuilds.org
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[01:00] <edman007> PAM?
[01:00] Action: edman007 gags
[01:01] <oda> edman007: I tried to avoid it... no way...
[01:01] <antiwire> pam isn't bad but there is a learning curve
[01:01] <edman007> i still don't use pam...
[01:01] <edman007> no problems either
[01:02] <oda> I really thing that PAM is unnecessary
[01:02] <BP{k}> the problem is that "just" installing PAM as per your slackbuild is only half the story.
[01:03] <antiwire> look those builds i posted and my build order
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[01:03] <oda> It seems specially stupid to use PAM with kerberos...
[01:04] <oda> BP{k}: I'm learning it right now :P
[01:04] <antiwire> you need to really watch out for pam configuration file collisions and duplicate entries in two different config files
[01:05] <rworkman> Isn't that where the 'system-auth' type file comes in?
[01:05] <oda> antiware: ok, thanks, that will help me a lot
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[01:05] <rworkman> I know that some external things install pam.d/ files which reference (via includes) a /etc/pam.d/system-auth
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[01:06] <antiwire> it does buy there pam.d/* config files as well as pam.conf options
[01:06] <antiwire> you you need to be careful about what you change and what will actually be read
[01:06] <oda> antiwire: sorry, I was writing you nick with "a" :P
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[01:10] <antiwire> you caught me on a down swing so you're safe
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[01:11] <Urchlay> Zordrak: ouch. Eh, what does that actually mean?
[01:11] <powtrix> hm virtualbox-3.0.0-49315 is out
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[01:13] <silvergold> Urchlay: He's so tired he needs to use matchsticks to hold his eyes open. :P
[01:13] <silvergold> Hmm, FF 3.5 isn't that bad.
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[01:15] <powtrix> i tested ff3.5rc4, stable as 2...
[01:15] <Urchlay> outch
[01:16] <silvergold> powtrix: 3.5 final was released today. :)
[01:16] <powtrix> err 3.0.11
[01:16] <Urchlay> try taping them... scotch tape, not duct tape!
[01:16] <powtrix> yes i compiled it
[01:16] <Zordrak> Urchlay: was at wark at 9am, left at 10pm, returned at 2am.. is now 6am
[01:16] <silvergold> ouch, my other pc, the usb port on the back, and ps2 keyboard port are seemingly shot. :(
[01:16] <BP{k}> silvergold: how's the extension compatibility ?
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[01:17] <silvergold> BP{k}: Well, the few I use, work fine. DownThemAll, FlashGot, VideoDownloadHelper, and Ubiquity. Any that you use that you're curious about? I'll see if they work.
[01:18] <Zordrak> DownThemAll ftw
[01:19] <BP{k}> silvergold: nah just wondering generally and rworkman was asking about it earlier as well :)
[01:19] <silvergold> Zordrak: agreed, opera has it's own built-in implementation of that, but unlike DownThemAll, opera brings up a separate dialog box for each file you want to download. :(
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[01:20] <silvergold> BP{k}: Ah, ok, I didn't see that. I've been messing with this other pc, I think some ports have went bad. :(
[01:20] <rworkman> silvergold: adblockplus and flashgot are all I care about; well, googlebar too
[01:20] <rworkman> er, s/flashgot/flashblock/
[01:21] <silvergold> rworkman: both adblockplus and flashblock install and work good here, just checked.
[01:23] <silvergold> googlebar installs and works too.
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[01:23] <rworkman> cool; thanks!
[01:23] <silvergold> you're welcome.
[01:26] <neonflux_> yes...adblockplus works good here on FF 3.5
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[01:30] <powtrix> forecast, geotool, translate, flashgot, adsblok+ are my favs
[01:34] <powtrix> eh to me compile virtualbox on slackware64 i need to recompile gcc turning on --disable-multilib ?
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[01:44] <powtrix> hm no?
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[02:00] <Urchlay> powtrix: more likely, install fred's compat32 packages. That'll give you a proper multilib build environment, vbox should build OK there (same as it did on slamd64)
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[02:02] <brklynRednek> hello all you happy people
[02:02] <Thom1> hi brklynRednek, how are you ?
[02:02] <brklynRednek> Thom1, i'm pretty good
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[02:02] <brklynRednek> finally got my cdl moved to NY
[02:03] <Thom1> cdl ?
[02:04] <brklynRednek> Thom1, commercial driver's license
[02:04] <brklynRednek> Thom1, i'm a truck driver...
[02:04] <Thom1> ok ok
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[02:04] <Thom1> and you live in NY ?
[02:04] <alisonken1noc> california shows as class a, b, c commercial (with supplements)
[02:04] <brklynRednek> Thom1, yeah, i live in ny now
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[02:05] <brklynRednek> alisonken1noc, i'm a class a, +nt
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[02:05] <alisonken1noc> cool - I've only got cal b+passenger/air
[02:05] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix
[02:05] <Thom1> brklynRednek, it's 2:00 am in NY ?
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[02:05] <brklynRednek> alisonken1noc, the catch, most local cos want the +hxps as well
[02:05] <brklynRednek> Thom1, that it is
[02:05] <alisonken1noc> brklynRednek:  there is that :)_
[02:06] <alisonken1noc> I only did bus on the side. primary jobs are with computers
[02:06] <brklynRednek> alisonken1noc, h is hazmat, x is tanker hazmat, p is passenger, s is school bus
[02:07] <alisonken1noc> had s in tx for a year - then moved back to ca
[02:07] <brklynRednek> n is tanker(in ny) and t is doubles/triples (in ny)...elsewhwhere, it's the opposite
[02:08] <brklynRednek> alisonken1noc, i've been a truck driver for about a year and a half
[02:08] <brklynRednek> i just use slackware as my os
[02:10] <silvergold> hey brklynRednek
[02:10] <brklynRednek> silvergold, heya
[02:10] <rob0> OTR, or local driving?
[02:11] <alisonken1noc> brklynRednek: yeah - ca is a little funny where some stamps are limits and other stamps are upgrades
[02:11] <brklynRednek> rob0, i'd like to go local, but been OTR
[02:12] <rob0> you ever get down south?
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[02:16] <cjambe1> Hello, which shell script gets executed on resume from suspend?
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[02:19] <nix_chix0r> i love payday
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[02:20] <tank-man> cjambe1, I think that is up to you, what ever you put in /etc/acpi/
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[02:23] <cjambe1> tank-man: I have an acpi_handler.sh, and on event lid) I have "sudo pm-suspend", how can I make a similar action for resume i.e. laptop_lid_open?
[02:25] <slava_dp> cjambe1, eh? when it's suspended it only reacts to the power button iirc. also to the keyboard keys on my laptop. but it's hardware-dependent.
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[02:27] <cjambe1> slava_dp: you are correct, the laptop wakes up on power button pressed. How can I assign an action for this wake-up? I want to change hdparm -B to mode 254.
[02:27] <slava_dp> cjambe1, make a pm hook for wakeup that will do that.
[02:27] Action: Zordrak hates how he starts off really patient around a new slackware release.. and then as time drags on and new servers are being delayed to meet with the new slack he starts to get really impatient about it... c'mon Pat!!
[02:27] <Zordrak> :)
[02:28] <cjambe1> slava_dp: where can I learn to?
[02:28] <silvergold> Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going?
[02:28] <edman007> nix_chix0r, pay me
[02:28] <nix_chix0r> great now that i have monies
[02:28] <slava_dp> Zordrak, i don't really like the new xorg. so i'd better see a somewhat delayed release with the new intel driver (and maybe an update to xorg).
[02:29] <edman007> nix_chix0r, now that you have money, share!
[02:29] <Zordrak> i wont be using xorg... it's all for servers :)
[02:29] <Zordrak> my X desktop can wait.. it's on an out of date current
[02:29] <brklynRednek> zoran119_, LOL
[02:29] <brklynRednek> Zordrak, rather
[02:30] <stealth-> how can I find out my wireless driver?
[02:31] <slava_dp> cjambe1, /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/  <-- there you've got examples. now, create a file in /etc/pm/sleep.d/$number-$name and set your hdparm there.
[02:31] <brklynRednek> who still uses pm-utils?
[02:31] <cjambe1> slava_dp: thanks
[02:31] <brklynRednek> i thought they were outmoded by acpi
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[02:31] <slava_dp> brklynRednek, wha?
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[02:32] <tewmten> morno
[02:32] <brklynRednek> slava_dp, echo # > /sys/power/state
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[02:32] <silvergold> y0 tewmten, how's it going?
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[02:32] <tewmten> yo silvergold
[02:33] <tewmten> i just came in to the office
[02:33] <brklynRednek> slava_dp, that's the way acpi seems to handle sleep/suspend/hibernate
[02:33] <slava_dp> brklynRednek, pm-utils do that too, and have the hooks. so why bother?
[02:33] <silvergold> tewmten: cool.
[02:33] <tewmten> sippin some espresso
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[02:33] <brklynRednek> slava_dp, just never saw anyone try to mix acpi and apm
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[02:34] <slava_dp> brklynRednek, iirc pm-utils have only been *introduced* since 12.1 or even 12.2.
[02:34] <brklynRednek> slava_dp, pm_suspend and the like is from apm, before acpi
[02:35] <slava_dp> brklynRednek, works for me.
[02:35] <stealth-> how can I find my wireless driver?
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[02:35] <stealth-> oh, opps, I asked that already. srry for the repeat
[02:35] <brklynRednek> stealth-, it should be a module, which wireless card do you have?
[02:36] <stealth-> brklynRednek: its not a card, its a usb belkin wireless G usb network adapter
[02:36] <brklynRednek> stealth-, and what is the output of lsusb?
[02:36] <brklynRednek> stealth-, please pastebin it
[02:37] <stealth-> http://pastebin.com/m4ed08fa7
[02:38] <stealth-> opps, sorry, should have done that in the first place
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[02:39] <nix_chix0r> edman007, i cant give you my monies
[02:40] <edman007> noooooo
[02:40] <edman007> my money
[02:40] <edman007> you are stealing it
[02:40] <tewmten> i like monies
[02:40] <tewmten> give me also
[02:40] <tewmten> if not, boobies are also okay
[02:40] <nix_chix0r> saw my financial adviser dude  to set up my sep ira
[02:41] <tewmten> you're going to setup a separate IRA?
[02:41] <nix_chix0r> 4% is kinda measley
[02:41] <Zordrak> arent there enough already?
[02:41] <nix_chix0r> well i had to choose who i wanted to go with
[02:41] <tewmten> why do you need your own Irish Republican Army..?
[02:41] <tewmten> i dont understand :/
[02:41] Action: Zordrak guesses "The New IRA"
[02:41] <nix_chix0r> sep ira's are kinda lame imo
[02:41] <tewmten> Zordrak: IRA-NG
[02:42] <tewmten> :D
[02:42] <Zordrak> since all american towns are just "New $(english-town-name)"
[02:42] <nix_chix0r> with how shit is now days and the inflation it isn't going to do me a whirl of good when i retire
[02:42] <tewmten> Zordrak: or like New <European town name>
[02:42] <Urchlay> Zordrak: Welcome to New New New New New New New New York :)
[02:42] <Zordrak> never heard of new paris or new amsterdam or new berlin....
[02:43] <Urchlay> there's a new amsterdam somewhere
[02:43] <Urchlay> there's a plain old Paris in Texas
[02:43] <brklynRednek> according to what i see, you gotta use ndiswrapper for that card
[02:43] <Zordrak> !~ /^New/
[02:43] <Urchlay> oh, wait. "Even old New York, was once New Amsterdam... Why they changed it I can't say, people just liked it better that way"
[02:43] <brklynRednek> stealth-, ndiswrapper + the windows driver is how you get that thing working
[02:44] <tewmten> New York used to be called New Amsterdam a long while ago
[02:44] <tewmten> also i think there is a town called Amsterdam in New York state
[02:44] <brklynRednek> tewmten, until the british took it
[02:44] <Urchlay> tewmten: yeah, and someone wrote a song about it :)
[02:44] <tewmten> but wtf do i know, i'm not yankee
[02:44] <tewmten> :D
[02:44] <Urchlay> "Istanbul was Constantinople"
[02:44] <brklynRednek> tewmten, the new amsterdam is a bar in times square
[02:44] <Zordrak> tewmten: matters not... lincoln nebraska is just as stolen
[02:44] <Zordrak> my sister lives in lincoln
[02:44] <brklynRednek> tewmten, you're thinking of counting crows, "mister jones"
[02:44] <Zordrak> a close friend lives in boston
[02:45] <Zordrak> all in england
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[02:45] <tewmten> i have never been to yankee-land nor england
[02:45] <stealth-> brklynRednek: well, it works already, Im looking how to find the driver im "currently" using. Im trying to setup my kismet.conf file
[02:45] <nix_chix0r> pen and teller is saweet
[02:45] <brklynRednek> stealth-, hmmm
[02:46] <brklynRednek> stealth-, lsmod
[02:46] <slava_dp> stealth-, dmesg | less
[02:47] <stealth-> slava_dp: what would I look for in there? does it say what module it loads for each device?
[02:47] <brklynRednek> stealth-, and it may in your /etc/modprobe.d
[02:48] <slava_dp> stealth-, search for wlan, wifi, belkin, etc
[02:49] <stealth-> zd1211rw
[02:49] <stealth-> ah, thanks guys
[02:49] <slava_dp> stealth-, yw :)
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[03:01] <brklynRednek> question, anyone know how to get this eeepc rtl8187se wifi card working?
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[03:13] <sGun> microsoft
[03:13] <tewmten> megahard
[03:15] <tank-man> income tax
[03:17] <alienBOB> brklynRednek: slackware-current's kernel configuration has "CONFIG_RTL8187SE=m" so you will have working wireless with that
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[03:18] <brklynRednek> alienBOB, so wouldn't it be easier to just build the module in 12.2?
[03:18] <brklynRednek> alienBOB, or are the kernels that much different?
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[03:29] <nix_chix0r> i think i'm going to re do the kitchen floors with this instead of natural stone http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=115509-34692-33QU19&lpage=none
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[03:29] <a750mhzslinky> Morning
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[03:31] <silvergold> nix_chix0r: that'll look really nice I think.
[03:32] <tewmten> oh
[03:33] <tewmten> yes i think that will make a nice warm color in the kitchen
[03:33] <silvergold> tewmten: yeah, I'm thinking the same thing.
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[03:40] <brklynRednek> looks like i'll ndiswrapper it until 13 comes out(doesn't use -current for various reasons)
[03:41] <alisonken1noc> good reason - since -current is for testing :)
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[03:49] <silvergold> Later everyone. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening} take care.
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[04:21] <someguy> hey
[04:21] <someguy> anyone here
[04:21] <tewmten> maybe
[04:21] <someguy> hi
[04:21] <alisonken1noc> only if I'm awake
[04:22] <someguy> does anyone know how to burn windows xp on to a cd
[04:22] <tewmten> not really
[04:22] <alisonken1noc> depends on if you want it bootable
[04:22] <Zordrak> someguy: uh...
[04:22] <someguy> ya i do
[04:22] <tewmten> it involves voodoo magic and the sacrifice of a blonde, virgin goat
[04:22] <Zordrak> someguy: im too tired even to bitchslap you
[04:22] <tewmten> so its quite the challenge
[04:22] <tewmten> but the best of luck to you
[04:22] <someguy> i created an ubuntu cd
[04:23] <someguy> that was easy but i can't use the same program
[04:23] <someguy> oh
[04:23] <someguy> what irc
[04:23] <someguy> should i disucss this on
[04:23] <alisonken1noc> linux-based cd's are not the same as microsoft cd's
[04:23] <someguy> well they are before you write them
[04:23] <someguy> arn't they?
[04:23] <alisonken1noc> not really
[04:23] <someguy> oh
[04:23] <someguy> then i am really lost
[04:24] <alisonken1noc> the only possible comparison might be iso9660 format, but that's debatable with MS cd's
[04:24] <someguy> ya its all iso format
[04:24] <alisonken1noc> or UDF if using dvd's
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[04:24] <someguy> ok
[04:24] <someguy> can you boot of a flashdrive
[04:24] <alisonken1noc> linux can
[04:25] <someguy> do those cds that come with dell do anythign
[04:25] <someguy> nvm
[04:26] <alisonken1noc> typically, they're locked into the specific machine type, so cannot be used on a different machine (even if it's another dell but a different model)
[04:26] <someguy> uh basicly my computer is sucking cuz everytime i restart it boots up in 8 bit
[04:26] <someguy> and i have to change it
[04:26] <someguy> and it serously pisses me off
[04:26] <alisonken1noc> one of the reasons I left MS stuff
[04:27] <someguy> i used to get an error when booting up
[04:27] <someguy> but that stopped
[04:27] <someguy> ya well
[04:27] <someguy> i started using linux
[04:27] <someguy> but open office drove me fucking insain
[04:27] <someguy> i fucking hate open office
[04:27] <someguy> so muchj
[04:28] <alisonken1noc> well, OOo works for me
[04:28] <someguy> ya but its just anoying
[04:28] <rob0> Me too, if I have to use office-type apps, I much prefer OOo.
[04:28] <alisonken1noc> so is MSOffice and a lot of the things it does
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[04:28] <rob0> But anyway, someguy might be interested in Crossover Office.
[04:28] <alisonken1noc> (annoying, that is)
[04:29] <someguy> wait what
[04:29] <alisonken1noc> Crossover Office will run most MSOffice stuff under Linux
[04:29] <rob0> You pay them, good free software developers, a fair price, and you get your MSOffice working perfectly on Linux.
[04:29] <someguy> oh cool
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[04:29] <rob0> well worth the bux for MSOffice addicts
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[04:30] <rob0> and you'll never need a Windows upgrade, always be guaranteed some form of working MS Office.
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[04:31] <rob0> so, first required upgrade, XO pays for itself.
[04:31] <someguy> ok
[04:31] <someguy> cool
[04:31] <someguy> lol
[04:31] <rob0> <== never bought nor used XO, but I know they're good folks
[04:31] <someguy> ya all try it
[04:32] <rob0> I've used MS Office, when I had to, inside a kvm VM.
[04:32] <someguy> lol googles so smart when it can't fix my problem it just gives me a site that shows that my problem really isn;t that bad and i could be using windows me
[04:32] <someguy> http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=101&threadID=208246&start=0
[04:34] <someguy> gooddamit i just killed it
[04:34] <someguy> goodbye
[04:34] <someguy> not really though
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[04:36] <rob0> I'm out, g'night
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[04:37] <jmoncayo> hye guys, anyone here has installed and configured freeradius?
[04:39] <mbohun> yes i do - freeradius - leftover from previous project, wrote a plugin for freeradius
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[04:42] <jmoncayo> mbohun: i am getting this error /etc/freeradius/radiusd.conf[210]: Error binding to port for 0.0.0.0 port 1812
[04:43] <mbohun> you are starting it how?
[04:43] <mbohun> what user?
[04:44] <jmoncayo> root
[04:44] <jmoncayo> freeradius -X
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[04:45] <mbohun> ok what is nmap UDP scan (RADIUS is UDP crap) saying? prior to starting freeradius?
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[04:45] <mbohun> isn't possible that an instance runs already from previous session? our testers used to have fun like that
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[04:48] <mbohun> 'ps xau', or 'pgrep radius' should tell
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[04:53] <mbohun> jmoncayo: any luck?
[04:54] <brklynRednek> ok, guys, i got the wifi card recognized(ndiswrapper) but can't seem to get the thing to associate with an access point
[04:55] <brklynRednek> can someone help me through this once again?
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[05:10] <dtanner> brklynRednek: sorry man, it has been a few years since i have configured anything wireless.
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[05:12] <dtanner> i will be doing so as soon as i get my routers out of storage though. i will be looking at howtos and manpages at that time prolly unless everything goes smooth with standard rc.* files
[05:12] <v4nelle> guys on slack current,if i want to add some option on devide section...i must make a xorg.conf file?or i can set this option somewhere else?
[05:14] <alisonken1noc> if the option belongs to a specific device, it goes inside that device section
[05:14] <alisonken1noc> however - if you use the automagical xorg configuration option, can't help you
[05:15] <v4nelle> automatical xorg,works well...but i want to add exa....thats all
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[05:31] <dtanner> where is a good list of slackware rsync/ftp/http repos? I found the list on slackware.com but i can't seem to find a list of rsync servers on the site under "get slack"
[05:32] <dtanner> nvm on the ftp/http servers , the list is good for that. just the rsync servers list I need.
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[05:48] <C_Tux> just a quick note : with vbox3, slack-current takes all my host cpu, a work-around is to disabled acpi in vbox
[05:48] <C_Tux> still looking for an actual fix
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[05:50] <stealth-> after compiling something from source, does the directory i compiled it in still need to be there?
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[05:53] <C_Tux> stealth-: if you install/copy the files to the correct location, no
[05:54] <stealth-> C_Tux: does install/copy the files to the correct location include running "make install"?
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[05:58] <dtanner> stealth-: after running "make install" you do not need the source dir any more
[06:00] <dtanner> you should at the very *least* use checkinstall so you can have a package made instead of just letting "make install" sling files all over your system that will be a pita to manage later on. you should really use a SlackBuild script. but in case you do not want to use SBo for some odd reason or they do not have what you need then either make a SlackBuild script or use checkinstall
[06:00] <dtanner> and reguardless of whatever negative comments you here about checkistnall , it works well.
[06:01] <dtanner> they have a few glitches now and then but they have fixed the bugs , make sure you get the latest version of checkinstall if you go that route.
[06:02] <stealth-> dtanner: ah, I forgot about checkinstall too much. I happened to be compiling patched drivers, though, something sbo doesnt exactly have
[06:02] <stealth-> dtanner: thanks, btw
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[06:07] <dtanner> np. checkinstall works on *most* things. not all. whenever "make install" is all you need and no other specifics then checkinstall will do the trick. that is the best way i can explain the possible problems with checkinstall this early in the morning. =)
[06:07] <stealth-> dtanner: checkinstall: command not found. Did you mean: "make check"?
[06:07] <dtanner> no , checkinstall.
[06:08] <dtanner> it doesn't come with slack. it used to be in extra/
[06:08] <stealth-> I need to download it then, im assuming?
[06:08] <stealth-> ah
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[06:13] <dtanner> A git repository is available for checkinstall. Find it here:
[06:13] <dtanner> http://checkinstall.izto.org/checkinstall.git.
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[06:13] <dtanner> that version has the bug fixed so you don't have to use --fstrans=no
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[06:14] <jmoncayo> does anyone here has been sucsesful to configure chillispot+mysql+freeradius?
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[06:26] <brklynRednek> btw, finally found the solution... http://code.google.com/p/msi-wind-linux/ it succeeded where ndiswrapper failed
[06:27] <dtanner> never used ndiswrapper before
[06:28] <brklynRednek> dtanner, i had to with an ath5k until the madwifi stuff got usable
[06:28] <brklynRednek> that eeepc is my daughter's laptop...and i already dread moving the other one over to slack
[06:28] <brklynRednek> we got one for each of the teen girls
[06:29] <brklynRednek> that was a headache
[06:29] <dtanner> does it enable you to use non linux drivers? just curious.
[06:29] <dtanner> are eeepc's any good ?
[06:29] <dtanner> they are inexpensive i take it
[06:29] <brklynRednek> dtanner, it's for windows drivers in linu
[06:29] <brklynRednek> linux
[06:29] <dtanner> that is what i thought thanks
[06:29] <brklynRednek> dtanner, the things are tiny
[06:30] <dtanner> i am way behind in keeping up with new hardware and such
[06:30] <brklynRednek> particularly, windows network drivers on linux(hence ndis)
[06:30] <dtanner> i see
[06:30] <C_Tux> brklynRednek: you have an msi wind ?
[06:30] <C_Tux> ok, saw you don't
[06:30] <dtanner> I need to make use of my 64 bit cpu and install slackware64
[06:31] <brklynRednek> C_Tux, no, but the same network card is in the eeepc 900hd
[06:31] <dtanner> i bought a 1 terabyte maxtor for 99 bucks the other day and this dayam dell case is making it hard as hell to install it. it is like they have closed off with metal casings the empty hdd slots
[06:32] <C_Tux> brklynRednek: ok
[06:32] <dtanner> i may have to get some sheet metal sheers to actually get to the empty slot. and that is no shiat
[06:32] <C_Tux> dtanner: he, I bought a 1TB a few months ago for 74 euros and put it into an external case, easy to install and working great ;)
[06:33] <dtanner> pisses me off to no end what these manufacturers are doing sometimes
[06:33] <dtanner> i will get an external case maybe.
[06:33] <brklynRednek> dtanner, iirc, you have to unhook the bay from the case to properly install
[06:33] <dtanner> how do you get the cabling in ?
[06:33] <brklynRednek> dtanner, no holes for cabling?
[06:33] <dtanner> brklynRednek: hmm. i will look at that closely next time i open it
[06:34] <dtanner> well i could take off one of the pci slot covers or look for any more entry points
[06:34] <dtanner> brklynRednek: you would not believe the design of this case
[06:34] <dtanner> it sucks so bad
[06:35] <brklynRednek> dtanner, i actually WOULD believe it
[06:35] <brklynRednek> dtanner, i used to service those POS's
[06:36] <poofo> can i run memtest on running system ?
[06:36] <poofo> or i have to do it at boot time ?
[06:36] <poofo> i need to test it while the system is already running
[06:36] <C_Tux> poofo: I guess at boot time
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[06:37] <dtanner> boot time IIRC
[06:37] <poofo> crap.
[06:37] <poofo> is there some other way to check ram while systems running ?
[06:37] <brklynRednek> dtanner, but usually there are holes, in the back of the bay, even if the bay is otherwise seemingly inaccesible
[06:38] <brklynRednek> dtanner, if not, i suggest a 1" drill
[06:38] <dtanner> =)
[06:38] <dtanner> i will have to pull it out again and check
[06:39] <brklynRednek> dtanner, and don't forget to sand the edges after drilling(you don't want to accidentally cut cables with a sharp edge
[06:40] <ananke> or better yet, countersink them
[06:40] <ananke> actually, nevermind. you're talking about very thin metal
[06:40] <brklynRednek> ananke, countersink what?
[06:40] <brklynRednek> ananke, ok...
[06:42] <Aldaron> I was thinking of sunny, tropical bays with soothing waves that are inaccessible from land and have holes in the back.. Aw, summer \o/
[06:42] <brklynRednek> but i got the thing working on wifi, much to my daughter's joy...will finish configuration of it later(flash, openoffice, acpi config, and the like)
[06:43] <dtanner> i think he was talking about using what they call a "unibit". it leaves the edges beveled if you do not go all the way through with them. but on thin metal , as ananke stated. the inside edge would still need sanding.
[06:44] <stealth-> if I didnt enter a session in a screen, is there any possible way I could drop my current session (with a running command) into screen? could I just ctrl+z then run screen and run "fg", then leave it?
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[06:44] <ananke> speaking of dell cases, i'll need to figure out how to cram some drives into mine. i just bought a poweredge 400sc for $2.49, it will make a great replacement for my storage box at home
[06:44] <brklynRednek> dtanner, eactly...
[06:45] <ananke> stealth- : no
[06:45] <brklynRednek> dtanner, exactly, even, the edges WILL need sanding, or filing if you want it somewhat quick
[06:45] <stealth-> ananke: damn. Know of anything I could do? I logged into a machine via ssh and now I need to shut down my local machine, but I cant quit the remote process. :(
[06:45] <Aldaron> sun! water! outdoors!
[06:45] <dtanner> ananke: i hope your dell case is not designed like mine.
[06:45] Action: Aldaron has been reading too much climbing stories
[06:45] <ananke> dtanner : what model?
[06:46] <dtanner> errr let me check
[06:46] <brklynRednek> stealth-, did you use screen to start the process?
[06:46] <stealth-> brklynRednek: no
[06:46] <ananke> stealth- : do you want to be able to view the terminal, or you simply want the process to not die?
[06:46] <brklynRednek> stealth-, and you'll need to interact with it later, right?
[06:46] <stealth-> ananke: I just need to shut down my system and have the process keep running, but i also need to reconnect later
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[06:47] <stealth-> yes
[06:47] <ananke> then you're screwed
[06:47] <brklynRednek> stealth-, the way is screen
[06:47] <stealth-> brklynRednek: but the current process isnt in a screen :(
[06:47] <brklynRednek> stealth-, as ananke said, you're screwed...
[06:47] <stealth-> k, thanks anyways
[06:48] <stealth-> i keep forgetting how long stuff takes to compile :(
[06:48] <stealth-> "a few minutes", its been almost an hour and a half. lol
[06:48] <ananke> bah, it's a compile process. that's something you can restart
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[06:49] <stealth-> oh yeah, I can just make clean, then restart it, cant i?
[06:49] <ananke> stealth- : no, no make clean
[06:49] <ananke> make clean would wipe out the progress you've been working on.
[06:49] <stealth-> just make?
[06:50] <stealth-> ........
[06:50] <stealth-> it can go back to its old position??
[06:50] <ananke> yes. it will check what objects have been compiled, and progress from there
[06:51] <stealth-> oh wow, if I knew this a month or two ago, then I would have *way* more sleeping hours.
[06:51] <stealth-> man, thats awesome
[06:51] <stealth-> I cant belive I didnt know that
[06:52] <stealth-> so what, I can just ctrl+C?
[06:52] <ananke> yes
[06:52] <brklynRednek> stealth-, you hadn't realized that?
[06:52] <stealth-> awesome. wow, I feel like an idiot XD
[06:52] <stealth-> no
[06:52] <ananke> it happens to everybody
[06:52] <brklynRednek> stealth-, yeah, i have my tool moments
[06:53] <C_Tux> no, not everybody 8-)
[06:53] <stealth-> heh, thanks guys. now i can finally go to bed :) g'night
[06:53] <ananke> stealth- : g'nite
[06:53] <brklynRednek> stealth-, you should have seen me freaking out over the wifi on the notebook i'm using now...and the entire issue with it was a push-button switch on the top of the keyboard
[06:53] <C_Tux> hahahaha : I put xfs out of a kernel, kernel panic at boot :D
[06:54] <ananke> stealth- : by the way, if you have more than one machine, you should consider distributed compiling, with such tools as icecream or distcc
[06:54] <ananke> C_Tux : see, _everybody_
[06:54] <brklynRednek> C_Tux, kernel needs xfs?
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[06:54] <brklynRednek> C_Tux, that's odd
[06:54] <C_Tux> ananke: hehe :P
[06:55] <C_Tux> brklynRednek: if / is using xfs, yes ;)
[06:55] <brklynRednek> C_Tux, yeah, kernel needs xfs in that case
[06:56] <brklynRednek> C_Tux, question...is xfs any more efficient than ext-style fs's?
[06:56] <ananke> brklynRednek : any filesystem is more efficient than ext-style [not counting ext4, they got some improvements there]
[06:56] <C_Tux> CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAp
[06:56] <ananke> C_Tux : karma
[06:57] <brklynRednek> ananke, ext4 is, from my experience, crap
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[06:57] <ananke> brklynRednek : not surprsing
[06:57] <brklynRednek> it MAY be faster, but i haven't seen it reliable
[06:57] <jmoncayo> anyone here has configured chillispot+freeradius ?
[06:58] <dtanner> ananke: well crap, i said dell ( my other machine ) but the one i am having problems getting to the drive bays is an HP
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[06:58] <dtanner> even worse
[06:58] <ananke> dtanner : now that would explain
[06:58] <brklynRednek> dtanner, compaq engineering
[06:58] <dtanner> hardly practical = HP
[06:58] Action: ananke generally dislikes hp products
[06:59] <brklynRednek> dtanner, i've got 2 compaq notebooks that are nice, but you expect a notebook to be overtly proprietary
[06:59] <ananke> i spent half of the day yesterday fighting with a designjet printer. the final verdict was buying a new printer. sucks, we had $1.5k in unopened supplies for this one
[07:00] <brklynRednek> ananke, epson still makes some of the best linux-based printers
[07:00] <dtanner> i am going to shutdown later on today and tak ethis thing apart again. It pissed me off so bad the other day after i bought the new hdd and was truying to get it installed i never want to open it again. I may just start cutting metal ! the empty bays are present! but not "easily" accesible.
[07:00] <brklynRednek> iow, if you're printing from linux...get an epson
[07:00] <ananke> brklynRednek : we don't care for a linux-based printer. not to mention, this is a _big_ printer - 42" roll
[07:01] <C_Tux> ananke: need to go very far very quickly for a job
[07:01] <C_Tux> and no car
[07:01] <brklynRednek> ananke, ah...you don't use a plotter for that job?
[07:01] <brklynRednek> ananke, it may be cheaper
[07:01] <ananke> brklynRednek : nope, why would we?
[07:01] <alisonken1noc> hp laserjets are also (usually) very good
[07:01] <hitest> yep
[07:01] <dtanner> yeah, i like hp as far as laserjets go.
[07:01] <ananke> hp laserjets are like a product from a different company. they actually work very well, and last [except the tiny ones]
[07:02] <ananke> brklynRednek : a plotter is not a replacement for a printer
[07:02] <brklynRednek> ananke, the problem with plotters, limited to the color pens you put into it
[07:02] <ananke> the problem with plotters is that they're not printers
[07:03] <brklynRednek> ananke, i know...personally only used a plotter for cad projects
[07:03] <brklynRednek> and then i was using autocad r12
[07:03] <ananke> for simple line drawings they're ok. our goal is to be able to print posters
[07:04] <brklynRednek> ananke, ok, have fun with that...never dealt with printing projects that couldn't be handled with an led printer, save the cad projects
[07:05] <C_Tux> ah boot and maybe not late
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[07:05] <aperturefever> greetings ppl
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[07:07] <C_Tux> fix vbox3 problem by kernel recompile, ping for details
[07:07] <ananke> brklynRednek : show me LED printer that can print 42" by 60"
[07:08] <ananke> and that doesn't cost more than $10k
[07:08] <brklynRednek> ananke, was saying i never played with a project your size
[07:08] <brklynRednek> ananke, damn, dude, wasn't trolling or criticizing
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[07:09] <ananke> i didn't think you were, i just thought you implied that LED printer would be a good solution
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[07:18] <dtanner> xhost +localhost doesn't work anymore for root to be able to use normal user X. i have to use "xauth merge /home/user_running_X/.Xauthority && export DISPLAY=:0.0" IS there a new syntax for xhost to allow for this?
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[07:26] <SpacePlod> dtanner: "xhost local:" might do it...(still export display, of course)
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[07:30] <dtanner> SpacePlod: sure did. Thanks. xhost has changed or something. i used 'xhost +localhost' for years np.
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[07:32] <SpacePlod> me too.  I can't remember when it changed (or when I started using xhost local:, but it was awhile ago...and I don't use it often
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[07:35] <alienBOB> dtanner: try "sudo -s" as normal user to become root - that way, root will be able to run X apps from that terminal
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[07:35] <SpacePlod> alienBOB: how goes it?  How'd your recovery project turn out (dare I ask?)
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[07:45] <alienBOB> SpacePlod: disaster
[07:45] <dtanner> alienBOB: that works also. thanks.
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[07:46] <SpacePlod> alienBOB: oh no.
[07:46] <alienBOB> I had several partial backups which was my luck because ultilately I could salvage all but 40 GB from the 300GB disk... but those 40GB were scattered throughout almost all files I rescued. I could hrow away almost all
[07:47] <alienBOB> The most important stuff I have recovered from the backups, but a lot of "not so critical" is lost now
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[07:47] <SpacePlod> sorry to hear that.  whenever I hear "buffer i/o" errors, I cringe.
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[07:48] <SpacePlod> did the disk eventually die, or did you just stop after it seemed hopeless?
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[07:55] <alienBOB> I made a mistake making a backup copy of the image which accidentally filled up the disk and corrupted the ddrescue logfile on the next write. So, I could not tell ddrescue to resume at the right place
[07:57] <SpacePlod> does the disk still spin up? or is it dead?
[07:59] <alienBOB> It ran when I switched it off. But it makes soft clicking noises all the time. ddrescue was getting data off that disk at < 10KB/sec
[08:00] <SpacePlod> yuck.
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[08:04] <thrice`> anyone built FF 3.5?  I can't get it to take /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ very easily
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[08:08] <kitche> probably because from what I remember it uses a different path now
[08:10] <thrice`> or a different export variable to the launcher script
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[08:33] <kitche> nah I don't mess with the launcher script rather just go to about:config and edit the plugin path that way
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[08:55] <jumperboy> WTF? Mozilla is recomminding Gnome for Firefox? http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/system-requirements.html
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[08:55] <tewmten> yeah well it is a GTK app..
[08:56] <thrice`> "optional functionality"
[08:56] <thrice`> seems pretty straight-forward :)
[08:56] <tewmten> optimal
[08:56] <thrice`> ooh, oops :\
[08:56] <tewmten> yes you fucked up
[08:56] <tewmten> if this was 'Nam you could've gotten people killed
[08:56] <thrice`> it does tie into gconf, etc. though when available
[08:56] <tewmten> think about that next time you make a typo
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[09:11] <Aldaron> Why isn't mouse wheel working on a clean-ish 12.2 install? (I've installed nvidia drivers and some stuff that shouldn't have an effect)
[09:13] <jumperboy> Aldaron: grep ZAxisMapping /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:13] <jumperboy> Aldaron: is it there?
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[09:13] <poofo>         Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[09:13] <poofo> add this ;)
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[09:17] <Aldaron> jumperboy: ah, it's not :P.
[09:17] <Aldaron> thank you guys. Seems a bit silly to me that it's not set automatically (maybe after the nvidia driver install)
[09:17] <Dominian> Its not automatic
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[09:35] <chess> stealth-: about your question in #sbopkg.  based on timezone differences sometimes it takes awhile for someone to respond.  you only posted 6 hours ago and I just now see it.
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[09:38] <chess> stealth-: in any event, it looks like the DOWNLOAD link the aircrack-ng .info file is outdated.  this is not an sbopkg issue.  contact the maintainer of that slackbuild and ask them to fix it.
[09:38] <chess> stealth-: or, get the source manually here: http://download.aircrack-ng.org/archive/aircrack-ng/1.0rc2/
[09:38] <chess> and move into the sbopkg source cache directory
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[09:43] <chess> stealth-: 404 errors are not unknown since websites sometimes move things around and a little investigation into the download location usually solves the problem
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[09:55] <Aldaron> Allright. What if adding   Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"   does not help?
[09:56] <Aldaron> heh. Maybe set protocol to IPMS/2
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[10:02] Action: slava_dp just tried playing video in xine over an ssh connection. oh my.
[10:03] <slava_dp> heh. now i remembered that wget is running on that machine at full speed too.
[10:03] <slava_dp> need to try vnc or nx. dunno which one is better.
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[10:06] <ananke> nx is much faster
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[10:09] <Aldaron> How could I add suspend and hibernate to KDE's menus?
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[10:10] <gtl> need help setting portuguese as input language
[10:10] <gtl> using gware
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[10:11] <slava_dp> Aldaron, google for creating .desktop files, there's one result: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Creating_desktop_entries_and_menus
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[10:23] <Aldaron> slava_dp: so slashdot doesn't support that in any way? ;P
[10:25] <slava_dp> nope. there's the One True Search Engine. beware of offending it.
[10:25] <tewmten> fuck google
[10:25] <tewmten> my company's search engines are bettar
[10:25] <tewmten> hells yea
[10:25] <Dominian> nuh uh
[10:25] <tewmten> uh huh
[10:26] <Dominian> nuh uh
[10:26] <Dominian> Your company is microsoft isn't it!?
[10:26] <jumperboy> old content is accumulating on the web, google needs an easy way to search only recent content
[10:27] <jumperboy> the date parameters are hidden on the advanced search page
[10:28] <Aldaron> The reason for asking here was that I did not find a good answer. Maybe I'll file a feature request for slackware about suspending and hibernation
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[10:38] <blacksheep> where is a good place to find packages online?
[10:38] <blacksheep> besides SBo
[10:38] <blacksheep> i need dependences to get compiz working
[10:39] <slava_dp> get sbopkg and queue everything you need.
[10:39] <blacksheep> eh?
[10:39] <blacksheep> never herd of sbopkg
[10:40] <slava_dp> many people haven't. it should be made more visible somewhere.
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[10:43] <gtl> true, but it's a goot tool
[10:43] <gtl> good*
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[10:45] <blacksheep> hmm seems interesting
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[10:51] <blacksheep> well ok, sbopkg is cool
[10:51] <blacksheep> but its still not giving me the dependencies I need
[10:52] <blacksheep> is there a website somewhere that has some massive library of packages?
[10:52] <gtl> it does not resolve dependencies
[10:53] <gtl> a workaround dependency problem is to check slackbuild.org for the package
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[10:53] <blacksheep> i did
[10:53] <gtl> there it lists the package's dependencies
[10:53] <blacksheep> i know what package i need
[10:53] <blacksheep> gconf-2.0 and ORBIt-2.0
[10:54] <blacksheep> but SBo dosent offer them, either that or im missing something
[10:54] <slava_dp> lol, gtl, just read the README directly in sbopkg, no need to go to sb.o
[10:54] <gtl> well, one can do that too...
[10:54] <gtl> hehe
[10:54] <slava_dp> blacksheep, yes, they are available on sbo.
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[10:55] <blacksheep> ok im feelin kinda stupid now
[10:55] <blacksheep> i just searched on SBo for 'gconf-2.0' and got no results
[10:55] <blacksheep> -_-
[10:55] <slava_dp> sbopkg -g gconf         Searching for gconf          Found the following matches for gconf:        desktop/compizconfig-backend-gconf          libraries/GConf       libraries/perl-extutils-pkgconfig
[10:55] <straterra> if the shoe fits o.O
[10:55] <slava_dp> shoulda searched for gconf
[10:56] <blacksheep> crap, gata go to work now.. :/
[10:56] <gtl> and you have to order the queue
[10:56] <blacksheep> c yall later
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[11:00] <gtl> need help configuring keyboard layout on gware
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[11:11] <C_Tux> hmmm, I'm under the impression slackware13 is a bit delayed because it's not a good moment to publish : kde 4.3 around the corner, new minor version for X coming, new mesa too...
[11:11] <C_Tux> (pure speculation)
[11:13] <poofo> hi
[11:13] <poofo> it's possible to install OpenVZ on slackware ?
[11:14] <thrice`> I think slackware will ship before kde 4.3
[11:14] <thrice`> but, who knows :)
[11:15] <thrice`> and the new mesa is in /testing, and could definitely ship that way :)
[11:15] <C_Tux> thrice`: well, kde 4.3 should come in less than a month so...
[11:15] <C_Tux> thrice`: no, I had another mesa in mind
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[11:16] <thrice`> 7.5 is development
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[11:18] <chess> personally, I think kde 4.3 will not make slackware 13, no matter which is released first.  I think the tree is pretty much stabilized at this point and other than a minor bump here or there, I doubt anything else major will be done.  but that's just my personal opnion.
[11:18] <thrice`> x-server 1.6.2 will probably be only a couple more days, though :)
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[11:19] <C_Tux> chess: yeah, I'm wondering, is the tree stabilized or is it in a "waiting" state ?
[11:20] <thrice`> likely the former; I'd guess kernel, kde, etc are pretty much set
[11:20] <C_Tux> kernel, I think so
[11:20] <C_Tux> kde, I don't know, I don't use it myself
[11:20] <C_Tux> bbl
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[11:21] <jonny> sup eric
[11:22] <thrice`> eric who?
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[12:00] <confrey> hi everybody
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[12:05] <thrice`> plus, KDE 4.3 will probably want policykit, which definitely won't be tossed in this late :)
[12:05] <jeev> leave already thrice`
[12:05] <C_Tux> thrice`: right !
[12:05] <thrice`> k
[12:05] <jeev> comrad
[12:06] <C_Tux> jeev :)
[12:06] <jeev> parastroika
[12:06] <C_Tux> yeah, I should clean the windows, they're not really transparent now =/
[12:07] <rworkman> s/probably//
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[12:15] <jmoncayo> hello, good morning everyone
[12:15] <jmoncayo> anyone here has installed chillispot + freeradius
[12:16] <adeodatus> 
[12:16] <adeodatus> 
[12:16] <alienBOB> O really
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[12:17] <gabriel_> chip pops?
[12:17] <gabriel_> :p
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[12:18] <silvergold> Greetings Everyone.
[12:19] <jmoncayo> lol
[12:19] <jmoncayo> this is driving me crazy
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[12:30] <eviljames> dAMMIT!#@  I cAN'TBELEIVE I'm working today!
[12:31] <thrice`> lazy canadian
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[12:31] <eviljames> thrice`: what did the 5 fingers say to the face?
[12:31] <thrice`> put a beer in me?
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[12:31] <eviljames> slap!
[12:32] <eviljames> anyhow.  Mass beer to be drank, work be damned :P
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[12:33] <C_Tux> eviljames: b33r !
[12:33] <silvergold> y0 C_Tux
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[12:33] <C_Tux> yoyo silvergold, how's it going ?
[12:33] <silvergold> C_Tux: going great, thanks. yourself?
[12:34] <C_Tux> silvergold: grreeeeeaaaat, thanks :)
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[12:34] <silvergold> C_Tux: Webkit did build and install last night. :)
[12:35] <C_Tux> I finally got my placement for this summer (one month actually), I'll probably be working on linux, even on slackware and in a nice company with good schedules (overflexible schedules), and with possibly much longer week-ends ;p
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[12:35] <C_Tux> silvergold: oh, nice :)
[12:35] <C_Tux> silvergold: tried it ?
[12:35] <silvergold> C_Tux: I browsed around with midori a bit, but haven't tried it out extensively, no.
[12:35] <silvergold> Also, arora is webkit as well.
[12:36] <C_Tux> silvergold: yeah, and it uses qtwebkit which is more full-featured than webkit-gtk, but arora doesn't have many features iirc
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[12:37] <silvergold> C_Tux: no, it doesn't, midori doesn't have all that many either, but they are both nice.
[12:37] <silvergold> lightweight and fast. :)
[12:38] <silvergold> I'm on osol atm, but when I'm back on slack, I'll run that sunspider test.
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[12:44] <C_Tux> silvergold: I'll have you test my browser then ;)
[12:45] <silvergold> C_Tux: I gladly will once it's ready.
[12:46] <C_Tux>  =)
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[13:09] <gtl> need help setting up portuguese language
[13:10] <vdvluc> Cool
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[13:18] <hollywoodb> gtl: http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/01/making-slackware-and-derivativ.html
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[13:20] <gtl> hollywoodb, thanks! i'll check this!
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[13:21] <pri4pus> Helo!
[13:21] <pri4pus> Ups! Hello!
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[13:22] <C_Tux> hi pri4pus
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[13:27] <pri4pus> C_Tux: Wazuuup?!
[13:27] <pri4pus> :-)
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[13:28] <pi31415> I am surprised that her blog does not have an RSS link
[13:28] <C_Tux> pri4pus: the sun shines, the birds sings, I should eat something, everything's good :)
[13:28] <C_Tux> and how's it going for you ? :)
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[13:29] <pri4pus> C_Tux: I am very hungry. :-) But the rest is the same! :-)
[13:30] <antler> i have 2 machines running linux on a lan and i want one of them to be accessible to the other. so, on the server, portmap is installed and rc.nfsd is started. the /etc/exports has the directory i want to share,  "/mnt 192.168.0.100(ro)". i ran exportfs -av and turned off my firewall to test. on the client, i run "mount 192.168.0.100:/mnt /mountpoint" but get and rpc error: program not registered. why?
[13:30] <silvergold> y0 antler
[13:30] <antler> hi silvergold :) how you doing?
[13:30] <silvergold> doing great, thanks. you?
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[13:31] <antler> pretty good, thanks. first time doing this nfs thingy
[13:32] <eviljames> is the client running portmap as well?
[13:32] <grekkos> what version of grep does everyone here have? my --exclude option isn't working on 2.5.1
[13:33] <eviljames> grekkos: 2.5.3
[13:33] <antiwire> 2.5.4
[13:33] <grekkos> I guess this version is out of date
[13:33] <antiwire> GNU grep 2.5.4
[13:33] <antler> eviljames: yeah, it is
[13:35] <eviljames> well, tbh, I haven't used Linux as an nfs host, only as a client.
[13:35] <eviljames> Can you give more verbosity and pastebin?
[13:35] <antler> ok
[13:35] <C_Tux> pri4pus: hmmm, good dinner here ^^
[13:36] <eviljames> mount.nfs 192.168.0.100:/mnt /mountpoint -v
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[13:36] <fluxnuk3r> hello again
[13:37] <vdvluc> antler: maybe hosts.allow on the server? portmap : ip... : allow
[13:38] <vdvluc> I had the same problem once
[13:38] <antler> oh, damn. freenode's not allowing mibbit connections
[13:38] <vdvluc> I think i solved it that way
[13:38] <eviljames> Good riddance to mibbit anyway :D
[13:38] <antler> vdvluc: i put client address in hosts.allow
[13:39] <vdvluc> oh
[13:39] <antiwire> yeah i'm stoked about the mibbit ban too
[13:39] <antler> vdvluc: i don't get what you mean by "portmap : ip... : allow", though
[13:39] <grekkos> yay newer grep works
[13:40] <grekkos> thanks guys
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[13:40] <ml4711> part
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[13:40] <grekkos> any ideas why my ssh might be getting blocked to a specific address? I can do it from my other linux machines on the network
[13:40] <antler> ok, brb. gotta install irssi on the client so that i can connect from there
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[13:45] <eviljames> grekkos: sshd isn't running on that machine? :D
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[13:47] <fluxnuk3r> dive: you there man?
[13:47] <fluxnuk3r> lol
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[13:50] <antler> eviljames: this probably doesn't help, but: http://pastebin.ca/1480997
[13:51] <dartmouth> haha
[13:51] <dartmouth> this is a little embarrassing
[13:51] <dartmouth> but i am dying to try out my new email system
[13:51] <dartmouth> can i send one of you a test email?
[13:52] <eviljames> sure.
[13:53] <eviljames> antler: k, on the client try mount.nfs 192.168.0.100:/mnt /mnt/slackmnt -v
[13:53] <dive> fluxnuk3r, yes
[13:54] <eviljames> Because that wasn't particularly helpful.. 0.100 is the client or the server?
[13:54] <grekkos> eviljames: sshd is running on the machine; it's saying connection refused immediately, but I can ssh into another host and ssh into the destination from there
[13:55] <antler> eviljames: http://pastebin.ca/1481004
[13:55] <antler> on the server, this is what i get when i restart/start rc.nfsd: http://pastebin.ca/1481002
[13:56] <antler> eviljames: 100 is the server
[13:56] <antiwire> grekkos: have you changed the default listening ports for sshd? maybe one client has this information saved and the other does not
[13:57] <grekkos> antiwire: I haven't changed anything, I am not an administator on the server machine
[13:57] <antiwire> maybe the administrator is using host based auth
[13:58] <eviljames> uh, did you remove the comment from /etc/exports?
[13:58] <eviljames> This file contains a list of all direcotories exported to other computers...
[13:59] <grekkos> I'm pretty sure my desktop is able to connect, though
[13:59] <dtanner> yeah . what eviljames said =)
[13:59] <silvergold> hey dtanner
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[13:59] <dtanner> hey silvergold
[13:59] <antiwire> grekkos: does the admin of the sshd server know about your desktop?
[13:59] <grekkos> not that I know of
[14:00] <antler> eviljames: this is the only relevant line i have in /etc/exports: /mnt 192.168.0.101(ro)
[14:01] <eviljames> I disagree.  The output looks like it is reading the comment line at the top of the file into /usr/sbin/exportfs
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[14:02] <antler> eviljames: oh jesus you're right lol
[14:02] <eviljames> heh, I was just about to say "go to the pastebin and read every 7th line"
[14:04] <antler> k, might the fact that i can ping the server from the client, but can't the client from the server have something to do with this? :P
[14:05] <eviljames> Is the client set to drop icmp?
[14:05] <antler> i wonder why... there's no firewall running
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[14:09] <pookiewookie_> hello :)
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[14:11] <antler> oh weird (to me) can't ping client as root, but can as user
[14:11] <eviljames> that seems very odd indeed.
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[14:12] <antler> oh jesus no i can wth
[14:12] <antler> *now
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[14:14] <antler> is there something wrong with my export line? /mnt 192.168.0.101(ro)    i've tried with a space between .101 and (ro) as well, but same error message
[14:15] <pookiewookie_> i have a question: i use xfs as my filesystem. and i use htop as process viewer. I see a few kernel threads that see to be unrelated to my FS. Like i see gfs2_scand, jfsSync, jfscommit, jfsIO, nfsiod. I dond think i need those threads as i i use XFS. How Can i remove those threads o save a little resources? box is slack12.2 full install on a quite old pc
[14:15] <antler> /etc/hosts.allow has 192.168.0.101
[14:16] <antler> k, aside from /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/exports, what other files should i be looking at, if any?
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[14:18] <pookiewookie_> anyone?
[14:18] <pookiewookie_> btw kernel is huge-smp
[14:18] <pookiewookie_> if that makes a difference
[14:18] <eviljames> pookiewookie_: How resource constrained are you?
[14:18] <antler> who the hell is versioning me?!
[14:18] <C_Tux> pookiewookie_: they are built inside the kernel, not as modules
[14:19] <C_Tux> so they are always loaded
[14:19] <akSeya> hi there.. can enyone explain me this command: tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 1 handle 3 fw flowid 1:3
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[14:19] <C_Tux> akSeya: quite easy : 'man tc'
[14:20] <eviljames> antler: It still says that same message about sub folders?
[14:20] <akSeya> C_Tux, yeah.. i was sure that you would say that...
[14:20] <akSeya> :)
[14:21] <pri4pus> What is Traffic Control in Linux kernel?
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[14:21] <pri4pus> I mean, what it uses for?
[14:21] <eviljames> It controls the lights on the front of your computer
[14:21] <eviljames> Green means go.
[14:21] <eviljames> Red means stop.
[14:22] <antler> eviljames: http://pastebin.ca/1481037 <---after i commented out a line and restarted nfsd
[14:22] <antler> and purple?
[14:22] <C_Tux> akSeya: that's really the best answer we can give
[14:22] <akSeya> pri4pus, it's used to control bandwidth usage
[14:22] <pri4pus> Thank you!
[14:23] <eviljames> antler: Still have a line that needs to be commented out, "computers"
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[14:24] <akSeya> IMHO.. tc is incredibly obtuse...
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[14:24] <iluminator101> i get this error on bootup /bin/shi cant access tty: joby control turned off??
[14:25] <iluminator101> i get this error on bootup /bin/sh cant access tty: joby control turned off??
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[14:25] <iluminator101> i get this error on bootup /bin/sh cant access tty: job control turned off??
[14:25] <thrice`> ok, third times a charm
[14:25] <thrice`> are you on slackware?
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[14:26] <C_Tux> akSeya: he, considering the command, you seem to be right ;)
[14:26] <antler> eviljames: k, i clearly can't weed right now. k, that's commented out. http://pastebin.ca/1481041
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[14:26] <C_Tux> thrice`: I was about to say something less nice :)
[14:26] <thrice`> :)
[14:26] <iluminator101> i get this error on bootup /bin/sh cant access tty: job control turned off??
[14:26] <thrice`> iluminator101: stop, we saw you.  are you on slackware?
[14:26] <iluminator101> no
[14:27] <eviljames> antler: freudian slip on what you can or can't do? ;)
[14:27] <thrice`> then why are you asking here?  tell your distro theys uck
[14:27] <thrice`> they suck ^
[14:27] <akSeya> lol
[14:27] <eviljames> antler: So, it looks like things should work here.
[14:27] <iluminator101> you guys are knowledgeable always helped me out before
[14:27] <eviljames> antler: what does mount.nfs 192.168.0.100:/mnt /mnt/slackmnt -v show now?
[14:28] <C_Tux> iluminator101: we never saw that, therefore we don't know how to solve it
[14:28] <thrice`> iluminator101: I doubt people in here have always help you out with non-slackware issues
[14:28] <pookiewookie_> eviljames: C_Tux: so if i recompile kernes without stuff i dont need thay should be gone? i dont need to remove any packages ir comment some line somewhere?
[14:28] <pookiewookie_> err.. kernel*
[14:28] <rob0> What nerve!
[14:28] <iluminator101> its all the same as long as you use kernel
[14:28] <thrice`> :O
[14:28] <antler> eviljames: http://pastebin.ca/1481046
[14:29] <thrice`> no!  that's where you're wrong iluminator101.  slackware's init scripts correctly populate tty's
[14:29] <C_Tux> pookiewookie_: yeah, and you only need to touch the "File systems" section (provided you use menuconfig)
[14:29] <eviljames> I'd say they do a pretty fine job of populating the ttys
[14:29] <jumperboy> okay, i need a break from work... I'd like to get a d-link dwl-122 usb wireless key working on an old computer running current. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[14:29] <rob0> I'm sorry if anyone here helped you before, iluminator101, but they probably won't, this time.
[14:30] <jumperboy> preferably with wicd
[14:30] <straterra> jumperboy: google
[14:30] <C_Tux> pookiewookie_: ever recompiled your kernel or would that be the first time ?
[14:30] <jumperboy> straterra: no luck, so far
[14:30] <pookiewookie_> C_Tux: i did it before :)
[14:30] <pookiewookie_> never did it tru ssh tho :)
[14:30] <thrice`> perhaps most of the time you can be helped, but the init system is NOT standard at all across distros; it's easily one of the most variable things, actually
[14:31] <C_Tux> pookiewookie_: ok, nice then :)
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[14:31] <pookiewookie_> my box in the opposite end of the city so if i mess up i'll have to make a trip :D
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[14:31] <rob0> gtg, bbl
[14:31] <eviljames> antler: can you telnet to 192.168.0.100:2049 ?
[14:31] <C_Tux> eviljames: it's quite weird to see processess for other filesystems ;)
[14:32] <pookiewookie_> C_Tux: thax for clearing things out for me
[14:32] <C_Tux> pookiewookie_: btw, be sure not to have xfs support as a module
[14:32] <C_Tux> if you use the source package provided with slack, it's maybe the default
[14:32] <spook> A wizard has turned you into a Land Raider, is this awesome? (y/n)
[14:32] <pookiewookie_> C_Tux: yeah, learned that one the hard way lol
[14:32] <C_Tux> (but then you may be able to extract the current config with 'zcat /proc/config.gz'
[14:32] <eviljames> spook: y.
[14:32] <C_Tux> pookiewookie_: hehe, I did that error on today
[14:33] <eviljames> spook: does that mean I'm no longer a pirate and now I'm a viking?
[14:33] <C_Tux> pookiewookie_: once you keep the old kernel available, everything goes well :)
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[14:33] <spook> eviljames: it means your a sentient tank with lascannons, pew pew
[14:33] <antler> eviljames: telnet: could not resolve 192.168.0.100:2049/telnet: Name or service not known
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[14:33] <antler> heh i've never telnetted before
[14:34] <spook> i should sleep, i need to get up in 6 hours
[14:34] <spook> antler: its hugely useful.
[14:34] <spook> shame on you.
[14:34] <antler> heh
[14:34] <pookiewookie_> C_Tux: jup, i keep stock, huge-smp, as "safe mode" option in lilo
[14:35] <eviljames> antler: telnet 192.168.0.100 2049
[14:35] <juice> new Virtualbox out 3.0.0
[14:35] <spook> i have no safe mode, no boot disk, the machine locked in a safe which i dont have the combination to, because I LIKE TO LIVE ON THE EDGE
[14:35] <juice> looks like good features and improvements
[14:36] <spook> open source yet?
[14:36] <eviljames> spook: my lasercannon will shoot through the lock though.  you're fine.
[14:36] <pookiewookie_> juice: whoah, gonna chek it out
[14:36] <eviljames> vbox is open source.. just none of the good features are (were)
[14:36] <spook> eviljames: no, your lascannon (thats how you spell it) will blow up the safe
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[14:36] <eviljames> Good riddance to the safe then.
[14:36] <eviljames> If it can't take a direct hit from a lascannon wtf good is it anyway?
[14:37] <antler> eviljames: ok, i seem to be connected
[14:37] <spook> and you have two side mounted twin-linked lascannons
[14:37] <spook> eviljames: http://www.minivault.com/images/Land%20Raider.jpg
[14:38] <juice> neat fullscreen mode and a little popup menu at the bottom now
[14:38] <eviljames> antler: well, that's a good sign, I guess.  grep nfs /proc/filesystems just in case
[14:38] <juice> s/and/has
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[14:38] <eviljames> silvergold: welcome back!
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[14:38] <eviljames> silvergold: did you ever check out Hail The Villain?
[14:39] <antler> eviljames: nodev	nfs
[14:39] <antler> nodev	nfs4
[14:39] <eviljames> k, that's good too.
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[14:39] <silvergold> eviljames: hadn't yet, no. Was going to here in a few minutes.
[14:39] Action: eviljames doesn't mind spamming for Canadian bands that are good.
[14:40] <antler> glass tiger?
[14:40] <antler> :D
[14:40] <jumperboy> anyone know why linux-wlan-ng was dropped from extra? does something else provide the same functionality?
[14:40] <eviljames> antler: myspace.com/hailthevillain some good rock
[14:41] <antler> always in the mood for good rock
[14:42] <eviljames> I went to CKY the other day and these guys opened for them.. totally unexpected, super good imho
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[14:45] <juice> well I liked it except it seems to consume over 100% cpu the new vbox
[14:45] <antler> eviljames: i'm a little surprised to hear silvergold say that you often listen to celine dion
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[14:46] <eviljames> antler: silvergold is a dead man.
[14:46] <antler> says you've been to 13 of her concerts around the world
[14:46] <antler> that's dedication, dood
[14:46] Action: silvergold runs
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[14:47] <C_Tux> run silvergold, run ! she's wants to eat you !
[14:47] <silvergold> :O
[14:47] <nix_chix0r> OMNOMMOM
[14:47] <nix_chix0r> :o
[14:47] <nix_chix0r> i am hungry
[14:47] <antler> she's a maniac, maniac, on the floor
[14:48] <eviljames> Celine dion?  also a maniac in bed.
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[14:48] <eviljames> Trust me, there's a reason she keeps inviting me to her concerts.
[14:48] <eviljames> backstage passes every time, beeyotch
[14:48] <nix_chix0r> un i doubt that that old fart
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[14:48] <antler> hahah
[14:48] <nix_chix0r> camping this weekend oh boy
[14:48] Action: silvergold still lives. :) I got away.
[14:49] <C_Tux> wait, somebody is listening to celine dion ? :o
[14:49] <eviljames> C_Tux: ITS MY FAVORITE SHUTUP
[14:49] <silvergold> C_Tux: yeah, eviljames, he's a DIE HARD FAN.
[14:49] <eviljames> It's only ironic when _I_ say it.  silvergold you're a dead man for propogating the myth!
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[14:50] <silvergold> gotta catch me first.
[14:50] <C_Tux> eviljames: cool, I can propagate the rumor while you're asleep :D
[14:50] <eviljames> heh, I can't decide if I should play along, or go on a merciless rampage over this claim.
[14:50] <antler> silvergold: well, i wouldn't talk. you have that tshirt with leonardo smiling and winking on the front
[14:51] <C_Tux> eviljames: try whatever you want, the whole channel will soon know you're singing Celine Dion songs while showering -_-
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[14:51] <silvergold> eviljames:  but, do you really believe antler, someone who watches reruns of the Muppet Show because he thinks Miss Piggy is cute?
[14:51] <eviljames> Good point, why did I buy into his crazy jibberish.  I mean, the guy can't even get NFS working!
[14:51] <fluxnuk3r> hey guys :)
[14:51] <silvergold> haha
[14:51] <antler> lol
[14:51] Action: eviljames winds up and takes a swing...
[14:52] <fluxnuk3r> when I try to modprobe nvidia I get this error: WARNING: Error inserting i2c_core (/lib/modules/2.6.24.5-smp/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-core.ko): Invalid module format
[14:52] <antler> out of the ballpark
[14:52] <C_Tux> fluxnuk3r: dmesg |tail
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[14:53] <agentc0re|work> Big let down for all those starcraft fans out there.  http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/07/01/1628259/Blizzard-Confirms-No-LAN-Support-For-emStarcraft-2em?from=rss
[14:53] <fluxnuk3r> C_Tux: http://pastebin.ca/1481073
[14:54] <antler> agentc0re|work: you nerd
[14:54] <silvergold> brb
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[14:54] Action: agentc0re|work cries...
[14:54] <fluxnuk3r> antler: we're in an irc channel. talking about computers and the problems/issues therein. hence, we all are nerds xD
[14:54] <agentc0re|work> :P
[14:55] <fluxnuk3r> wheres Old_Fogie? :(
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[14:55] <C_Tux> I'm waiting for a link to an official announcement regarding starcraft2
[14:55] <C_Tux> now... battlenet
[14:56] <C_Tux> oop, battlelan
[14:56] <eviljames> argh fsck this.
[14:56] <antler> agentc0re|work: luckily i don't need lan support. bnet is fine :D
[14:56] <fluxnuk3r> C_Tux: I have no idea what that means (what i pastebin'd)
[14:57] <eviljames> that's horrid.
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[14:57] <agentc0re|work> antler: it's occasionally fun to have lan party's though, ya know?  It's really a bummer they've removed that.
[14:57] <C_Tux> fluxnuk3r: hmmm, maybe i2c_core is built-in and also exists as a module, which would be really weird
[14:57] <agentc0re|work> eviljames: about starcraft 2 or something else?
[14:57] <eviljames> sc2.
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[14:57] <eviljames> That's a regression, imho.  I'm going to pirate it just on principle!
[14:57] <Necos> sc2 is a lie >.>
[14:57] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa
[14:58] <fluxnuk3r> C_Tux: idea?
[14:58] <agentc0re|work> eviljames: I was thinking exactly the same thing.
[14:58] <agentc0re|work> Just in spite.
[14:58] <antler> agentc0re|work: yeah, i have *sniff*, *gulp* no real, physical, material beings as friends; so lan is *sniff* useless. i hate it!
[14:59] <C_Tux> fluxnuk3r: seems you have a mix of kernel and kernel modules
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[14:59] <C_Tux> fluxnuk3r: you recompiled your kernel ?
[14:59] <fluxnuk3r> no. stock.
[14:59] <fluxnuk3r> only kernels/modules left are the huge-smp
[14:59] <agentc0re|work> antler: Try wearing deodorant, it might help to lure some in.  :P  Be sure to shower first though.  :D
[14:59] Action: dartmouth has issues with the structure of the kernel involving modules
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[15:00] <fluxnuk3r> lol
[15:00] Action: fluxnuk3r thinks dartmouth is an emo..
[15:01] <antler> agentc0re|work: i make my own from vinegar, baking soda, and sulphur dioxide.
[15:01] Action: dartmouth thinks fluxnuk3r should **** his merry ****
[15:01] <fluxnuk3r> xD
[15:01] <dartmouth> :P
[15:02] <fluxnuk3r> C_Tux: so way to eliminate this? uninstall all kernel packages and install only the ones i need?
[15:02] <C_Tux> fluxnuk3r: do you have a i2c_core.ko in /lib/modules ?
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[15:04] <fluxnuk3r> wth. I thought I uninstalled those packages. I have 2.6.24.5  and 2.6.24.5-smp in /lib/modules
[15:04] <rworkman> Ooh, is it fill in the blank day?
[15:04] <silvergold> rworkman: yes, you weren't notified? :)
[15:04] <rworkman> I'll take "fsck" and "butt"
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[15:04] <rworkman> dartmouth: I didn't know that about you.  ;-)
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[15:04] <antiwire> fluxnuk3r: did you ever recompile?
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[15:05] <dartmouth> rworkman: haha
[15:05] <antler> wow butt and fsck
[15:05] <fluxnuk3r> I havent compiled anything. this was a fresh install. then I removed 3 of the kernels I dont need.
[15:05] <C_Tux> fluxnuk3r: and can you run 'depmod', that __might__ fix it
[15:05] <rworkman> "I've tried a lot of things, but sex is the best."
[15:05] <dartmouth> I should start going to #ubuntu when I want to make fun of people, that always backfires on me here....
[15:05] <rworkman> and now the chorus:  "But sex, but sex, but sex is the best"
[15:06] <C_Tux> dartmouth: nah, that'd be so easy it would be boring ;)
[15:06] <dartmouth> rworkman: not with sex toys like these: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/520646-USA/Nikon_2173_Telephoto_AF_S_Nikkor_600mm.html
[15:06] <rworkman> fluxnuk3r: you should be using the generic kernels for daily use
[15:06] <fluxnuk3r> C_Tux: depmod returned nothing. "modprobe nvidia" still returns the same error
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[15:06] <rworkman> dartmouth: ooh, kinky
[15:06] <rworkman> "Pics or it didn't happen" takes on an all new meaning.
[15:07] <dartmouth> LOL
[15:07] <fluxnuk3r> rworkman: so uninstall huge* and install generic?
[15:07] <antiwire> fluxnuk3r: also, removing just the kernel packages won't remove the kernel module packages
[15:07] <C_Tux> dartmouth: hmmm, ^^, and there's even a handle \o/
[15:07] <rworkman> fluxnuk3r: no, don't uninstall hgue* - it's a good backup kernel.
[15:07] <rworkman> fluxnuk3r: read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT :)
[15:07] <dartmouth> that was great timing, with fluxnuk3r talking about 'uninstalling huge and installing generic'
[15:07] <fluxnuk3r> -.-
[15:07] <dartmouth> hey, quit being so emo :P
[15:07] <fluxnuk3r> xD
[15:08] <dartmouth> ugh.  i know im getting bored when i start trolling in here
[15:08] <dartmouth> rworkman: i wish you'd help out on this project im working on.  it's right up your alley.
[15:08] <fluxnuk3r> leave it to dartmouth to turn a computer problem into a perverted mess of nonsense :P
[15:08] <dartmouth> fluxnuk3r: hey, you should see me to tech support
[15:08] <fluxnuk3r> lol
[15:08] <rworkman> dartmouth: female college freshmen cheerleaders with sex addictions?
[15:08] <thrice`> the horror
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[15:08] <eviljames> I'd get fired doing tech support.  I _hate_ it.  And I hate the people that call.
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[15:09] Action: rworkman glances over his shoulder to make sure wifey isn't looking ;-)
[15:09] <eviljames> I had to do tech support for dial-up internet for a while.
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[15:09] <dartmouth> 'ok, now whats your gateway address set to?  what color is it?  really?  if you just ease it in....'
[15:09] <eviljames> Yeah, DIALUP.
[15:09] <antler> yep, i agree. penetration of the anal orifice is addictive (but only if she has strong sphincter muscles)
[15:09] <eviljames> anal is for dudes whose wangs are too small for vag.
[15:09] <eviljames> and you can quote me on that one.
[15:09] <rworkman> eviljames: ++
[15:09] <antler> lol
[15:10] <dartmouth> rworkman: no, been there, done that, they want to pretend to get married and then rip your guts out right before the wedding so hard that you go into hiding for almost a year.
[15:10] <dartmouth> not from...personal experience.....heh...
[15:10] <rworkman> dartmouth: so find another one and it will be all better.  Preferably her sister or friend.
[15:10] <eviljames> dartmouth: that's fucked.  How was the time you served in prison for manslaughter?
[15:10] <dartmouth> manslaughter?
[15:10] <eviljames> rworkman: ++ on the sister.  Bonus points if its her best friend.
[15:11] <dartmouth> her sis was pretty hot, but where do you think the evil came from?
[15:11] <antler> well, due to his time in prison, his sphincter muscles have a very slow shutter speed now
[15:11] <eviljames> heh
[15:11] <rworkman> Dude, it's a bit before your time, but watch Top Gun sometime.  There are some serious lessons on how to play women at their own game and win
[15:11] <dartmouth> we went to a bar once and she licked her lips at me with my fiance sitting right next to me
[15:11] <eviljames> Top Gun has lessons on how to play women?
[15:11] <rworkman> dartmouth: yep, definitley bang the sister.
[15:11] <dartmouth> should have
[15:11] <dartmouth> they're both all knocked up now
[15:11] <dartmouth> with better guys than I am
[15:12] <dartmouth> LOL
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[15:12] <eviljames> dartmouth: I got one back on my ex, nailed her best friend in the spare bedroom of the condo we shared.  They don't talk anymore.
[15:12] <dartmouth> nice
[15:12] <eviljames> She was asleep in the other room.  It got loud, I got caught.  Totally worth it.
[15:12] <dartmouth> no i did the broke-heart guy thing and now no one talks to me in that side of stuff
[15:12] <dartmouth> screw it.
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[15:13] <eviljames> uh, step 1: drop the whole 'low self esteem' bit ASAP.  That'll only get you pity sex, and that's not the sex you want.
[15:13] <rworkman> eviljames: seriously, yes.  Arrogance, to an extent, is attractive to most women, and Top Gun displays a bit of how it works.
[15:13] <antler> i'll take pity sex
[15:13] <rworkman> eviljames: ++ for sure.  Funny that this is all related :)
[15:13] <rworkman> See, *all* geeks aren't living in mom's basement. :)
[15:13] <eviljames> rworkman: ah, yeah, roger on that one.  IRL I am perversely arrogant, and I can spot chicks who dig it a mile away.
[15:13] <antler> no matter how you look at it, pity sex is still sex
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[15:13] <eviljames> antler: WRONG.
[15:14] <dartmouth> anyways, rworkman I still need to write up some docs on it, but I'm trying to apply the intelligence cycle in a web app, and need some non-developers to discuss some ideas about how they'd imagine it being applied.  the hardest part is turning the the different phases of the cycle into something you'd imagine on a website that still has the same purpose.
[15:14] <rworkman> eviljames: same here :)
[15:14] <eviljames> rworkman: gotta make 'em chase you, after all.  If you're hunting for it you're doing something wrong, eh?
[15:14] <dartmouth> there's going to be a mailing list, and we've got both internal and external email; was telling eviljames about it this morning
[15:14] <rworkman> dartmouth: you'd have to start by explaining the concept of "intelligence cycle" to me.  Perhaps I'm familiar with it by another name, but as is, nothing rings a bell.
[15:14] <eviljames> http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/facttell/intcycle.htm
[15:14] <dartmouth> where was that link...
[15:14] <dartmouth> oh there we go
[15:15] <dartmouth> ^^
[15:15] <eviljames> heh, taht's the link you e-mailed me today, dartmouth
[15:15] <dartmouth> haha
[15:15] <rworkman> eviljames: yep yep.  If they're not wondering why they're still talking to you even though you just insulted them, you're not doing it right.
[15:15] <eviljames> Totally.
[15:15] <antler> hot brunette: "aw, he's probably never done that before because he's ugly. i'll let him stick it in mine so that he knows what it's like" <------ that works for me
[15:15] <eviljames> dartmouth: take rworkman's advice here.  It will get you what you want.
[15:15] <eviljames> antler: you too.
[15:15] <eviljames> antler: That's the saddest thing I've ever heard.
[15:15] <antler> hahaha
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[15:16] <antler> you gotta get it any way you can
[15:16] <eviljames> The dialogue should be more like hot brunette: "This man of mystery keeps blowing me off, maybe if I rock his world he'll call me."
[15:16] <dartmouth> whoa dude
[15:16] <antler> except rape, etc.
[15:16] <antler> eviljames: nah. world doesn't work that way son
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[15:16] <eviljames> hahah, I can attest that it does.
[15:16] <antler> :D
[15:17] <dartmouth> no way man.  you want her to think you're king shit.  don't call her for days at a time, and when she texts you wait 2 hours or so before replying unless you want to meet up
[15:17] <eviljames> antler: That attitude brought me http://imgur.com/Im2Q
[15:17] <dartmouth> NEVER talk on the phone more than about 90 seconds, and thats stretching it
[15:17] <eviljames> dartmouth: That pic I sent to antler is (imho) slackware's hottest user.
[15:17] <dartmouth> and don't 'ask' for sex.  if she lets you in her bedroom and you're dating, she's going to consent.  just throw her on the bed.
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[15:18] <rworkman> The night I met my wife, she was fussing about how humid it was and that her hair was so frizzy that it must look horrible.  I said "Well, it could be better, but it's okay - don't worry about it."   The look on her face was priceless - she was hooked right then :)
[15:18] <antler> nope. just ask. any idea how many times babe ruth struck out?
[15:18] <dartmouth> haha rworkman thats hilarious
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[15:18] <C_Tux> eviljames: again that old pic ! edit it and remove that ugly sucker on the right !
[15:18] <dartmouth> antler: i have never pursued a woman and struck out, with the exception to one that I had already done terrible things with.
[15:18] <C_Tux>  :D
[15:19] <eviljames> C_Tux: hah no doubt, who is that putz anyway?
[15:19] <rworkman> She asked for *my* number at the end of the night.  I have her an email address and told her to mail me if she wanted to get together later.
[15:19] <eviljames> C_Tux: (amazingly the url was still in my cache otherwise I might've had to put a new one up)
[15:19] <antler> dartmouth: it's a universal fact: all guys strike out every now and again
[15:19] <C_Tux> eviljames: we should ask on reddit ! http://reddit.com/submit?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FIm2Q.jpg :D
[15:19] <eviljames> eep, don't do that.
[15:19] <dartmouth> antler: as im 24, I'm sensing those days ahead.  My only gauge is my hairline.
[15:20] <eviljames> You want to know how to get girls, it's easy: nice cologne and ridiculous overconfidence.
[15:20] <C_Tux> rworkman: that's so cute, I'm going to cry ! <3
[15:20] Action: C_Tux stops doing the girly
[15:20] <eviljames> And be willing to strike out.. face it, not every chick is interested.
[15:20] <pi31415> I met my wife using the unix talk command
[15:20] <eviljames> pi31415: hottest thing I've ever heard.
[15:20] <dartmouth> wtf?!
[15:20] Action: rworkman bows to pi31415 
[15:20] <C_Tux> pi31415: you're the king ! :p
[15:20] Action: dartmouth starts reading the manpage
[15:20] <antiwire> lol
[15:21] <C_Tux> eviljames: don't do what ? click on the reddit link ? oooopsy
[15:21] <eviljames> C_Tux: I kill you.
[15:21] <dartmouth> rworkman: so you get what we're trying to do?
[15:21] <eviljames> What's your reddit username?  we can be friends!
[15:21] <C_Tux> eviljames: you can't kill anybody, you're listening to Celine Dion
[15:21] <C_Tux> ... unless you're a psycho killer... :o
[15:22] <BP{k}> v/win 11
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[15:22] <BP{k}> bah
[15:22] <agentc0re|work> Heh, the night i met my wife i forgot her name and called her Kim.... Twice.  Introduced her to my boss at the time, "And this is Kim".
[15:22] <rworkman> dartmouth: not really.  Sounds like a wiki is the thing to use, best I can tell :)
[15:22] <eviljames> C_Tux: psycho killer, qu'est-que c'est? bah bah bah baba bah bah bah....
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[15:22] <antler> eviljames: hmmm some butt ugly guys that don't shower and wear cologne get hotties. timid, underconfident guys get hotties. the point is this: sex is a about how freaky you can get.
[15:22] <rworkman> agentc0re|work: nice.
[15:22] <agentc0re|work> To which she replyed, "Actually it's Elizabeth but Kim for short"
[15:22] <eviljames> agentc0re|work: nice.  First time I called my current gf I asked for Shannon.  That's not her name.  Not even close :P
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[15:22] <BP{k}> agentc0re|work: at least she has a sense of humour ;)
[15:23] <agentc0re|work> Then i did it again introducing her to a co-worker.
[15:23] <dartmouth> rworkman: ill put together some reading material on this project in particular and spam you with it at some point
[15:23] <agentc0re|work> BP{k}: Heh, totally.
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[15:23] <agentc0re|work> So the joke now is anytime i introduce her to anyone, i do it as Kim.  :D
[15:23] <agentc0re|work> Some of my friends refuse to even call her Liz or Elizabeth.  heheh.
[15:23] <antler> hey agentc0re|work : get your transmission fixed?
[15:24] <rworkman> That's actually a good move too -- if they don't immediately turn off, you're home free for at least one round.  You've just told them "I like you, but you're not nearly important enough to me yet for me to remember your name"  and she's thinking "I must fix that."
[15:24] <C_Tux> eviljames: actually what I had in mind was closer to a mix between Pantera's "Psycho Holiday" and "Killers" ;)
[15:24] <C_Tux> eviljames: :)
[15:24] <eviljames> ++ rworkman;  Giving out some great advice here!
[15:24] <eviljames> People, take notes!
[15:25] <BP{k}> agentc0re|work: heh most people actually address kethry by her nick, I have even known her parents to do it.
[15:25] <agentc0re|work> antler: I did, only cost me $1600 too.  new trany only has 79k miles on it.
[15:25] <agentc0re|work> BP{k}: LOL
[15:25] <eviljames> C_Tux: Psycho HOliday!  I am going to put that song on right now!
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[15:26] <agentc0re|work> rworkman: LOL, that's great!
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[15:27] <antler> agentc0re|work: 1600... serious cash
[15:27] <C_Tux> seems I'm not the only one having troubles remembering names :)
[15:27] <agentc0re|work> antler: Could have been tons more though.
[15:27] <BP{k}> C_Tux: I tend to prefer the "Oi! You over there" ;)
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[15:27] <C_Tux> well, I usually remember girl names much better but still ;)
[15:28] <C_Tux> BP{k}: last year was "you, freshman, bring me water" :)
[15:28] <agentc0re|work> antler: What was serious cash was getting new tires, breaks and 5k mile service on my Harley.  $1000.
[15:28] <C_Tux> (not exactly freshmen, but that's quite equivalent)
[15:28] <agentc0re|work> antler: That was a kick in the NUTS!  ESP. after the car and before that all the skydiving stuff.
[15:29] <antler> shit... all this within the last month hahah
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[15:29] <dartmouth> so uhm
[15:29] <agentc0re|work> antler: Yup... pockets are drained out.  Had to sell used underwear to pay the rent.
[15:30] <dartmouth> apparently you can't put ceramic cups in the microwave very long
[15:30] <dartmouth> "thank god for DVORAK"
[15:30] <antler> agentc0re|work: they're worth more a little stained
[15:30] <agentc0re|work> antler: Stained "Pearl" or "Chocolate Brown".  Buy two get one free. :P
[15:31] <antler> that's the idea :P
[15:31] <dartmouth> ew
[15:31] <antler> eww? some people dig that shit. no pun intended.
[15:31] <dartmouth> ewx2
[15:31] <C_Tux> eviljames: dunno if you got a notice but I added you as a friend on reddit ;)
[15:32] <antiwire> you sure can put ceramic cups into the microwave as long as you flip them upside down and read "microwave safe" on the damn cup you freaking ninny
[15:32] <dartmouth> it says microwave safe :(
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[15:32] <dartmouth> my ring finger disagrees.
[15:33] <dartmouth> my kitchen floor, which has a new abstract art addition to it, titled 'Microwave Safe', also disagrees.
[15:33] <pri4pus> How do I connect to a Windows machine remotely if I have only the IP of the machine?
[15:33] <eviljames> C_Tux: wtf, how does the friends work on reddit?  is there no way for me to check this? heh
[15:33] <agentc0re|work> dartmouth: If you don't like that, then you'll love this.  http://timecube.com
[15:33] <agentc0re|work> :D :D
[15:33] <pri4pus> And password.
[15:33] <dartmouth> pri4pus: you need some kind of remote desktop setup on it
[15:33] <eviljames> ahh, the ol' cube...
[15:33] <antiwire> pri4pus: you the samba suite tools
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[15:34] <C_Tux> eviljames: it seems to be pretty primitive
[15:34] <antiwire> he never specified this connection method. For remote access you use krdc for RDP connections. for file/share access you can use samba
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[15:35] <pri4pus> antiwire: But how do I use krdc? I have only IP. It asks something more.
[15:35] <antiwire> no, it doesn't
[15:35] <eviljames> C_Tux: it's really primitive it seems... i went to r/friends and it says there's nothing there.
[15:35] <dartmouth> agentc0re1: that looks like a bad bob dylan spinoff the way its written
[15:35] <Hellscream> when is version 13.0 comming out? anytime soon?
[15:35] <eviljames> For all the meatspace friends that I've made, I have NONE in cyberspace :(
[15:35] <eviljames> Hellscream: When it's ready.
[15:35] <antiwire> you choose the protocol you need to use and specify the host. krdc even shows you examples
[15:36] <C_Tux> huh, what's /usr/share/ri ? 0_o
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[15:36] <C_Tux> eviljames: I think friends are not mutual
[15:36] <C_Tux> eviljames: see http://www.reddit.com/prefs/friends/
[15:36] <Hellscream> and that will be? it almost 7 months since v12.2
[15:36] <antiwire> If the Windows system is using the default RDP port (ie: you haven't changed it) then you don't need to specify the port either.
[15:36] <thrice`> the horror
[15:37] <thrice`> Hellscream: then use -current.  it'll be released when Pat and only Pat says so
[15:37] <jeev> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:38] <C_Tux> ok, /usr/share/ri is for ruby
[15:38] <thrice`> quiet jeev
[15:38] <jeev> thrice`, that's the noise your parents made when they saw you coming out
[15:38] <jeev> they were skurrrrrrrrrred
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[15:38] <C_Tux> bye bye ruby, you're too fat
[15:38] <thrice`> I shall not make a joke about myself, your mother, and "coming out," but use your imagination
[15:38] <Hellscream> Ok, i will. been putting learning slackware off for far too long
[15:39] <jeev> Hellscream, there is no learning slackware. it's easy once you try it
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[15:39] <jeev> i think crapos, err centos is harder than slackware cause it's l4m3
[15:39] <C_Tux> ...
[15:39] <jeev> ... you too
[15:39] <C_Tux>  \o/ for the 'nv' driver \o/
[15:40] <C_Tux> epic 10s X lag :)
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[15:41] <Hellscream> well ive been a windows user all my life, just recently started with mint, and think its time for something advance
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[15:45] <jeev> god this windows mobile shit sucks
[15:45] <dartmouth> time to change that.
[15:47] <pi31415> wow, timecube.com still exists
[15:47] <pi31415> more curse words these days
[15:47] <eviljames> hellz yea.  the 4 day cube will NEVER die.
[15:47] <eviljames> as an adherent to Ray's philosophy, I will carry that torch..
[15:49] <agentc0re|work> jeev:  I don't even remotely find your "joke" (insult) directed toward thrice` to be remotely funny.  In fact most of your existance in this channel is ripping on people and it's just rude.  If you're trying to be funny, you're not.  I read most of what you say to others to be insulting.  You need to start thinking before you type or just GTFO.
[15:49] <jeev> lol well the timecube guy is right
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[15:50] <jeev> ameri*'s are dumb!
[15:50] <jeev> agentc0re|work, welcome to my fag list
[15:50] <jeev> there you are. now i cant see anything you write.
[15:50] <jeev> now go talk about your alcohol and your bungee jumping
[15:50] <agentc0re|work> rworkman alienBOB ping
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[15:51] <Hellscream> any babes in here? if so, whats ya aslr?
[15:51] <agentc0re|work> Is anyone else just as sick of that shit as i am?
[15:52] <jeev> lol Hellscream
[15:52] <C_Tux> Hellscream: the two girls of the channel are currently afk =/
[15:52] <C_Tux> sorry
[15:53] <eviljames> Waitasec.
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[15:53] <jeev> eviljames, are you one that we dont know about ?
[15:53] <eviljames> Going to a linux channel to try and hit up babes?  I think that was in Napolean Dynomite..
[15:54] <Hellscream> dammit! where da b!tches at? im gonna make me a booty call
[15:54] <C_Tux> eviljames: he wants to meet the kernel hacker who wrote usb3 support I think
[15:54] <eviljames> uhh.. boiiinggg! :P
[15:54] <jeev> ewww
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[15:56] <eviljames> http://sarah.thesharps.us/2009-06-07-20-00.cherry
[15:56] <eviljames> That one?
[15:56] <C_Tux> eviljames: yes
[15:57] <BP{k}> hmm golden pale ale for later. :)
[15:57] <C_Tux> eviljames: we should maybe tell him she's married
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[15:57] <C_Tux> hooray for 'nv', the crappiest driver ever \o/
[15:58] <C_Tux> it should probably get removed from X altogether, vesa probably works better
[15:58] <fluxnuk3r> lol
[15:58] Action: C_Tux hopes vesa can do 16:10 ratio
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[15:59] <C_Tux> "nv" currently makes mplayer pause, yeah, command-line mplayer in an xterm...
[15:59] <Hellscream> please no, se fugly
[16:00] <C_Tux> since I paster my previous message, mplayer hasn't played a single sound, waiting
[16:00] <eviljames> That's nice of it to be quiet while you're typing.
[16:00] <eviljames> Should help you concentrate and stuff.
[16:00] <Hellscream> me no geek, me a 90 pound stud
[16:00] <C_Tux> eviljames: yeah, I can concentrate better on irc :)
[16:01] <C_Tux> Hellscream: you can buy a Slackware sticker, it attracts chicks -_-
[16:01] <C_Tux> still waiting for the music
[16:01] <eviljames> Doesn't sound like it'll help him much..
[16:01] <C_Tux> eviljames: chicks dig the 'S' sticker :
[16:01] <C_Tux> !
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[16:02] <eviljames> good riddance.
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[16:02] <C_Tux> hahaha, mirc :P
[16:02] <C_Tux>  \o/
[16:02] <C_Tux> music back !
[16:03] <eviljames> dammit I just want to leave work and go get drunk.  Is that so much to ask?!
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[16:03] <C_Tux> I think that was alsamixer which made it lag, it has troubles with the black background
[16:04] <eviljames> HOLYCRAP.
[16:04] <eviljames> Windows guests have the ability to use direct3d9!
[16:04] <C_Tux> but nice : 240spf ! 240 seconds per frame \o/
[16:04] <eviljames> for VBox
[16:04] <thrice`> :D
[16:04] <C_Tux> eviljames: and the others can use opengl ;)
[16:04] <eviljames> yea, I saw that, but I wasn't expecting that to come out so quickly.. now I just need a proc with VT-x
[16:05] <C_Tux> eviljames: click, upvote and read the link : http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8xacb/virtualbox_300_is_out/c0aq6ew (beware the ads)
[16:05] <C_Tux> eviljames: need one too ;)
[16:05] <agentc0re|work> eviljames: Heh, i brought some of my homebrew in to work.  :D
[16:06] <eviljames> agentc0re|work: Good man, ship some to Van for me.
[16:06] <agentc0re|work> heheh.
[16:06] <eviljames> I wonder how small of a homebrew setup I can make... plus a 3 plant growbox, I'd never have to leave home! :P
[16:06] <C_Tux> eviljames: I finally got my internship for this summer : my boss told me I could probably have 4-days week-ends :p
[16:06] <thrice`> my buddy made an AWESOME hefe that we were drinking last weekend.
[16:06] <agentc0re|work> thrice`: NICE!  I want to make a hefe... tried to my last batch but it tastes nothing like a wheat beer.
[16:07] <eviljames> C_Tux: I think the slow might be due to the guy's machine, not vbox' implementation
[16:08] <thrice`> I'm not a huge wheat beer drinker, but this tasted very sweet :)  great for summer
[16:08] <eviljames> Vista on Vista w/ only 2 gb of ram... that sounds like fail to me..
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[16:09] <C_Tux> eviljames: that's still 2200fps vs 47fps
[16:09] <eviljames> As I understand, though, wine is getting better & better... it plays wc3 for me no problem.  That and myst are the only games worth playing imho :P
[16:09] <C_Tux> eviljames: hmmm, no 'vbox' icon in systray, additions not installed ?
[16:09] <C_Tux> eviljames: starcraft ? ;p
[16:10] <eviljames> oh, right.  I forgot about starcraft.. I have to play through that game again soon.
[16:10] <eviljames> First, though, I have to finish Zelda for the wii.
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[16:11] <C_Tux> eviljames: last time I played starcraft, it was like "ouch, you completely pwned me" =/
[16:11] <agentc0re|work> eviljames: Heh, i still haven't finished that either.
[16:12] <agentc0re|work> eviljames: Got close to the end... and then my short attention span kicked in and i started doing something else.
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[16:12] <C_Tux> oh, yesterday I was playing Time Crisis on playstation, with the gun ;p
[16:13] <eviljames> agentc0re|work: hehe, exactly what happened to me..
[16:13] <C_Tux> so addictive
[16:13] <eviljames> It's a damn long game, but so fun.
[16:13] <agentc0re|work> I'm a big fan of mario party though.. Thats a good group game.
[16:14] <agentc0re|work> I got the 3rd metriod too.. don't think i finished that one either..  I can't remember.  I think it was that game that took me away from Zelda.
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[16:15] Action: C_Tux has to finish the saucisson before he leaves, condemned to eat, what a harsh life :D 
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[16:17] <antiwire> wii fit is cool
[16:20] <eviljames> agentc0re|work: I have mario party but haven't unlocked anything in it yet.
[16:21] <eviljames> the ADHD is fuelled largely by fricken mario Kart
[16:21] <agentc0re|work> neither have I... I can't figure out how.
[16:21] <eviljames> That game is impossibly addictive.
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[16:21] <eviljames> Is the 3rd metroid any good?
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[16:23] <agentc0re|work> eviljames: Heh, from what i remember.... I enjoyed it! :D
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[16:28] <eviljames> the screenshots for metroid make me want to buy it.
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[16:37] <C_Tux> wow find's -exec* are bitches to use, their syntax seems so bad
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[16:43] <Necos> C_Tux: you ain't kiddin
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[16:44] <C_Tux> Necos: using ';' as a delimiter in a shell command is ... dumb, why not just accept -execdir 'mycommand {}' and be done ?
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[17:06] <mac-> hi there
[17:07] <mac-> do You know where can I find slack tgz with ff 3.5 ?
[17:08] <silvergold> mac-: you could make your own. :)
[17:08] <jeev> i just saw one of the hottest girls ever, in tights, her entire ass was showing. 10+, sexyyyyyyyyyy unf
[17:08] <jeev> mac, i dont think there is yet
[17:08] <C_Tux> nowhere
[17:08] <jeev> how long does it take to build ff?
[17:08] <antiwire> jeev: the stock slackware packages are not built, they are repackages. you can build it if you want and it doesn't take too long
[17:09] <jeev> ahh coolio
[17:09] <jeev> i want to try firefox 3.5 now but it has some incompatibilities with some of my addons already
[17:09] <antiwire> jeev: look at the slamd64 sources for an example of how to build it
[17:09] <jeev> i didnt want to build it, was just curious
[17:10] <antiwire> hmm well slackware64 also builds it now http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current/source/xap/mozilla-firefox/
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[17:13] <D-r_Flower> hi all, what about slackbuild for the new firefox?
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[17:14] <D-r_Flower> and i cannot run firefox on my sw-12.2 system. i saw an item in lq, but there is not thread
[17:14] <D-r_Flower> treat
[17:14] <Necos> ?
[17:14] <Necos> thread?
[17:15] <D-r_Flower> sorry, treatment :)
[17:15] <confrey> hi everybody
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[17:15] <silvergold> hi confrey
[17:15] <confrey> I need to write a simple bash code
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[17:15] <confrey> i need to test if a variable is setted or not
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[17:15] <confrey> for example
[17:16] <Camarade_Tux> hi, is there a slackbuild for ff3.5 ?
[17:16] <D-r_Flower> Necos: are u able to run ff-3.5 ?
[17:16] <Camarade_Tux> (sorry, had to do it >< )
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[17:16] <C_Tux> D-r_Flower: just before you asked, somebody else asked about ff3.5 too ;)
[17:17] <confrey> if [ "$PAR1" -eq "" ]; then echo "PAR1 is not setted"
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[17:17] <D-r_Flower> C_Tux: i dont see
[17:17] <confrey> but it dont work can anybody help me?
[17:17] <silvergold> D-r_Flower: It was just before you joined.
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[17:18] <D-r_Flower> :) i was first, but this is not important. the important is that i and u and other people want to run it, but i and can't
[17:18] <alienBOB> confrey: you compare two strings with == not -eq
[17:18] <C_Tux> iirc there is a command to dereference a symbolic link but I can't remember its name, anyone ?
[17:19] <alienBOB> The -eq is to compare two integer values
[17:19] <confrey> alienBOB, thaanks
[17:19] <alienBOB> Or try: if [ -z "$PAR1" ]; then echo "PAR1 is not set"
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[17:20] <D-r_Flower> alienBOB: do u know a slackbuild for firefox-3.5?
[17:20] <Necos> i haven't tried 3.5 yet
[17:21] <alienBOB> D-r_Flower: I am waiting for you to write one
[17:21] <Necos> but the slackbuild just repackages the official tarball, so if you can't run it, there's a problem
[17:21] <Necos> so just change 3.0.x to 3.5 in the version variable and call it a day
[17:21] <D-r_Flower> i sorry, i cannot run it and it is the problem
[17:21] <RipVanWinkle> i wonder who the muppet is at mozilla.org that made dbus a dependency for firefox?
[17:21] <D-r_Flower> Necos: it dont works with that release
[17:22] <Necos> lol
[17:22] <Necos> RipVanWinkle: you don't use dbus?
[17:22] <RipVanWinkle> i dont
[17:22] <RipVanWinkle> not hal either
[17:22] <D-r_Flower> i changed all that may be related to version in slackbuild and patches, but it cannot be packaged
[17:23] <Necos> if i can build ff3.5 on my 12.1 box, i am going to hurt you
[17:23] <D-r_Flower> it shoult be great
[17:23] <D-r_Flower> to build, not to hurt ;)
[17:23] <antiwire> hmm
[17:24] <antiwire> I wonder if RipVanWinkle is pig_pen
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[17:24] <RipVanWinkle> maybe
[17:25] <antiwire> I'm actually pretty sure
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[17:25] <RipVanWinkle> can you prove it?
[17:25] <antiwire> muppet doesn't come up often and your feelings toward ubuntu are about inline with pig_pen too
[17:25] <antiwire> can't prove it but I do have a pretty good idea
[17:26] <Necos> haha
[17:26] <antiwire> That's ok though; it's just a game I play
[17:26] <Necos> antiwire: you better play to win
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[17:26] <silvergold> RipVanPig_Pen? :P
[17:27] <RipVanWinkle> Pig_Pen is just my sock puppet
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[17:28] <alienBOB> He uses your IP and username in any case RipVanWinkle ;-)
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[17:28] <D-r_Flower> so does anyone run firefox-3.5 on slackware-12.2?
[17:28] <RipVanWinkle> yeah, its me, AKA Pig_Pen AKA NukeDukem were all the same
[17:29] <antiwire> Necos: does that count as a win?
[17:29] <antiwire> lol
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[17:29] <silvergold> yes, it does. ;)
[17:29] <Necos> it does work
[17:30] <Necos> the build
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[17:30] <antiwire> speaking of dukenukem....I"m stuck at L3 in atomic edition
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[17:31] <Necos> you only need to use the plugin patch
[17:31] <RipVanWinkle> D-r_Flower: i tried it and it would not work, but i tried it through a xterm and it said it could not find dbus, i am not installing dbus for a webbrowser, if you have dbus it should work, unless there are other missing dependencies
[17:32] <InspectorCluseau> antiwire, just cheat to the next level ...
[17:32] <silvergold> D-r_Flower left. :)
[17:32] <antiwire> InspectorCluseau: that's no fun though
[17:32] <antiwire> I complete the levels the first time through without cheating
[17:33] <InspectorCluseau> I play with dnstuff and use the rocket launcher all the way through
[17:33] <Necos> hahaha
[17:33] <RipVanWinkle> i guess i need to learn to type faster
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[17:34] <Necos> ff3.5 works fine
[17:35] <Necos> and yes, i have dbus and hal >.>
[17:35] <nooper> it always makes me uncomfortable when i hear of the component called 'HAL'
[17:35] <InspectorCluseau> is ff 3.5 really any faster/better?
[17:35] <Necos> not really
[17:36] <RipVanWinkle> nooper, just wait til they hit version 9000
[17:36] <nooper> >_<
[17:36] <stealth-> i just unloaded a newely compiled driver (using "make unload") then reloaded the new one (make load). Will my new driver be loaded automatically next boot, or does this have to be done every boot?
[17:36] <InspectorCluseau> a good 'old' game is 'Dust'
[17:36] <stealth-> or do I have to edit a conf file?
[17:38] <Necos> is it a kernel module?
[17:38] <stealth-> yeah, a wireless driver
[17:38] <stealth-> wait, I dont know :S
[17:38] <Necos> >.>
[17:39] <Necos> you should probably figure that out
[17:40] <stealth-> We will not be compiling our kernel in order to gain injection, instead we'll opt for compat-wireless. Let's begin with the steps.
[17:40] <stealth-> would that explain anything?
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[17:49] <antiwire> stealth-: what exactly are you trying to accomplish and with what driver?
[17:54] <tewmten> heey
[17:54] <C_Tux> yo tewmten
[17:55] <tewmten> i just got back from cinema
[17:55] <tewmten> i saw the new ice age in imax 3d
[17:55] <tewmten> :D
[17:55] <tewmten> cool stuff man
[17:55] <silvergold> y0 tewmten
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[17:55] <tewmten> hi silvergold
[17:56] <RipVanWinkle> i want to see that John Dillenger gangster movie
[17:59] <eviljames> That's because you have a boner for Jonny Depp.
[18:00] <thrice`> er
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[18:02] <antiwire> lol
[18:02] <stealth-> antiwire: get packet injection to work
[18:02] <dchmelik> I am getting this error configuring grub2 with the latest current gcc and binutils: 'configure: error: neither start nor _start is defined'
[18:02] <antiwire> with what driver?
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[18:03] <C_Tux> eviljames: I need a girl to fold my clothes but chicks are pretty uncommon on irc, except that since you're listening to Celine Dion, you might as well fold clothes nicely, wanna do it for me ? =)
[18:03] <stealth-> a patched zd1211rw, i belive
[18:03] <eviljames> C_Tux: I'll wipe my ass with every shirt you own.
[18:03] <stealth-> it might be mac80211, it mentions that at some parts
[18:04] <antiwire> stealth-: you have the specific drivers and you have mac80211 that the drivers use.
[18:04] <antiwire> Some drivers support injection OOB, some need patching
[18:05] <antiwire> stealth-: mac80211 itself supports injection but each driver/chipset needs to support it as well
[18:05] <dchmelik> I looked at grub's config.log and apparently gcc-4.3.3 on current has no "start" symbol....
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[18:06] <stealth-> antiwire: yeah, and im patching my driver, then. But i installed it via "make unload; make load" and I was wondering if it will use that new driver at bootup next time
[18:06] <C_Tux> eviljames: that's ok, no shirts to fold, only t-shirts :)
[18:06] <eviljames> C_Tux: Those t-shirts are going to look mighty funny with a fresh brown stain on them...
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[18:07] <silvergold> haha
[18:07] <silvergold> eviljames: would you do that if your gf asked you to fold some shirts? :)
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[18:08] <antiwire> stealth-: as long as the new driver is in the modules directory for your kernel and the old one is removed, yes
[18:08] <eviljames> silvergold: She would never do such a thing!
[18:08] <antiwire> stealth-: make unload and make load don't install anything
[18:08] <silvergold> eviljames: :)
[18:08] <antiwire> they only load and unload drivers
[18:08] <thrice`> anyone on FF 3.5?
[18:09] <jeev> no thrice.
[18:09] <silvergold> thrice`: I am.
[18:09] <thrice`> what do you export for it to find and use /usr/lib64/mozilla ?
[18:09] <thrice`> sorry, /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/
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[18:10] <silvergold> I'm not sure on that one, I use 32bit here. iirc, there's a setting for it in about:config or something for where to look for plugins, but I could be wrong.
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[18:11] <thrice`> usually it's patched into /usr/lib{64,}/firefox-$VERSION/firefox , though ;)
[18:11] <monstro> folks how to implement this http://pastebin.ca/1481256 with command tc ? is possible ?
[18:11] <thrice`> mine isn't working properly
[18:11] <silvergold> thrice`: you broke it. :P
[18:11] <thrice`> clearly :>
[18:11] <silvergold> :)
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[18:13] <dchmelik> has not anyone used grub2?
[18:16] <C_Tux> eviljames: folded everything, without you -_-
[18:16] <eviljames> C_Tux: That was fast.
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[18:16] <eviljames> C_Tux: I'm sure you're used to hearing that, just not from a dude...
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[18:18] <C_Tux> eviljames: no, never heard that, but I often hear "don't worry dear, it happens to everybody" =/
[18:18] <eviljames> hahah nice
[18:18] <C_Tux>  :D
[18:18] <C_Tux> eviljames: guess you won't clean the dishes either ?
[18:19] <eviljames> I bring home the bacon.  It's up to someone else to do the rest :P
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[18:19] <dtanner> i despise doing dishes, especially with no auto-dishwasher
[18:19] Action: thrice` steals the bacon
[18:19] <C_Tux> eviljames: he, hopefully I didn't wait for somebody to do the rest today =/
[18:19] <eviljames> OHNOES!  Without that bacon I might have to lift a finger around the house!
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[18:21] <silvergold> eviljames: that's isn't good, that might kill ya if you have to lift a finger.
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[18:21] <eviljames> hahah wtf, kde 4.3rc1 is out
[18:22] <eviljames> and one of their updates is a plasmoid that creates mandelbrot fractals as real-time computed wallpaper.
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[18:22] <eviljames> Oh, Marble Interactive desktop globe can be used as a wallpaper too.
[18:22] <silvergold> seriously? nice.
[18:22] <eviljames> Anybody with an extra core or 2 to blow on their wallpaper better sign up :P
[18:23] <eviljames> Akonadi has google calendar sync though... that's pretty nice.
[18:23] <eviljames> can't argue that this looks good, though...http://kde.org/announcements/announce_4.3-beta1/plasma.png
[18:23] <antiwire> dchmelik: Slackware defaults to lilo and comes with grub so that might be why not many people in here have much to suggest to you...
[18:24] <silvergold> eviljames: that links broke, for me anyway.
[18:24] <dchmelik> antiwire: current does not have the obsolete grub 1 or the current grub2....
[18:24] <thrice`> it's in /extra
[18:24] <antiwire> dchmelik: current does in need have grub
[18:24] <antiwire> you're mistaken.
[18:24] <silvergold> eviljames: nm, got it. :P
[18:24] <dchmelik> well it is not in extra
[18:24] <thrice`> it is for 32-bit
[18:25] <eviljames> When are they going to change up the testicle icon for adding widgets
[18:25] <eviljames> there HAS to be a better thing they could use.
[18:25] <antiwire> dchmelik: yes, it is
[18:25] <thrice`> I think 64-bit requires a hackish static library only
[18:25] <antiwire> dchmelik: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/extra/grub/
[18:25] <antiwire> you're mistaken.
[18:25] <dchmelik> oh, I meant slackware64-current
[18:25] <silvergold> eviljames: you mean the icon in the top right?
[18:25] <dchmelik> I did not know there was a 32-bit current now
[18:25] <antiwire> there has always been a 32bit current
[18:25] <eviljames> silvergold: yep, it looks like a ball.
[18:25] <antiwire> it's not new
[18:26] <silvergold> eviljames: yeah, I've thought that same thing myself sometimes.
[18:26] <eviljames> Maybe not precisely, but when someone asks how to add widgets in kde4, the only answer I can give is "click the testicle"
[18:26] <dchmelik> lilo seemed less stable to me than grub
[18:26] <silvergold> eviljames: hahaha. How many, after that go "Huh?"
[18:26] <antiwire> what exactly is unstable about lilo?
[18:26] <thrice`> how so?
[18:26] <dchmelik> a few years ago I was using lilo for about a year and then one day it just would not start
[18:27] <dchmelik> then when I installed grub it worked fine
[18:27] <thrice`> grub is a piece of shit :\
[18:27] <dtanner> lilo is so stable it aint even worth a discussion.
[18:27] <eviljames> silvergold: I don't think anyone has yet.. it gets a fair bit of laughs though. :D
[18:27] <dtanner> then you didn't configure it right
[18:27] <silvergold> eviljames: I bet. :)
[18:27] <antiwire> oh right, it magically just stopped working
[18:27] <thrice`> it requires tons of patching to even work right
[18:27] <antiwire> it couldn't have been any number of issues not limited to a failing disk or something you did with another OS though
[18:27] <eviljames> My stance: if you don't need to boot anything other than Linux/Win - lilo is the way to go.
[18:28] <dchmelik> dtanner: what do you mean 'you didn't configure it right?!'  I did not change anything; one day it just did not work.  and antiwire: I do not think I did anything with another OS, and then grub did work on the disk....
[18:28] <eviljames> Solaris' grub is good, though.
[18:29] <silvergold> With lilo, I doubt it just up and stopped working all on it's own.
[18:29] <dtanner> dchmelik: well i can bet it wasn't lilo that was at fault. see what antiwire said.
[18:29] <dchmelik> maybe it was the disk then, but if grub worked on the disk lilo should have been able to.
[18:29] <dchmelik> and I did nothing like 'fdisk /mbr.'
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[18:31] <C_Tux> eviljames: in the kde screenshot you linked to, in the translatoid, english and french translation are reversed ><
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[18:31] <eviljames> C_Tux: hahah I hadn't even noticed.  What a bunch of stupids!
[18:31] <C_Tux> he ;p
[18:32] <eviljames> I keep forgetting the hotkey, so mine switches "at random" between english & french
[18:32] <C_Tux> and back to the sink, still lots of dishes =/
[18:32] <eviljames> and I think there's a setting somewhere that tells ktorrent to always be french.
[18:32] <C_Tux> eviljames: lol ;)
[18:32] <eviljames> C_Tux: you need a woman in your life.
[18:32] Action: eviljames ducks & runs from the ladies in the channel
[18:32] <C_Tux> eviljames: is my mother ok ? :D
[18:32] <eviljames> Just as long as you don't slap her ass and call her pretty.
[18:32] <eviljames> That's what I do to my current dishwasher :P
[18:32] <C_Tux> eviljames: lol ;p
[18:33] <C_Tux> eviljames: would you mind giving me your address and the name of your girlfriend ? I have some irc quote to mail her -_-
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[18:34] <eviljames> C_Tux: She finds my misogyny charming!
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[18:36] <eviljames> hey, pgsql 8.4 released!
[18:36] <silvergold> eviljames: you didn't know that yet? :P
[18:36] <eviljames> I'm not on their list.
[18:36] <C_Tux> eviljames: you're pwned then! I bet she thinks you're actually defenseless and only trying to pretend being tough :D
[18:36] <lns40> silvergold: gee are you an add for aff
[18:36] <silvergold> eviljames: me either. :P
[18:38] <silvergold> lns40: add for aff?
[18:38] <lns40> silvergold: nevermind :)
[18:38] <silvergold> lns40: :)
[18:38] <eviljames> I didn't get it either.  No lulz for you lns40
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[18:39] <eviljames> anyhow, afk for a while
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[18:48] <pupit> need help. i have an external hard drive with two partitions, eg. ext3 and ntfs. how to mkfs.ext3 on one partition and mkfs.ntfs on other. i dont know the syntax of command
[18:48] <pupit> mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdb1p1 is not good :(
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[18:49] <lns40> oh right, not add just ad
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[18:50] <dtanner> pupit: well, in the simplest form 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/????' and the same for ntfs.
[18:50] <lns40> pupit: read up on the switch to mkfs.ntfs fast
[18:51] <pupit> lns40: what switch?
[18:52] <lns40> pupit: -f
[18:52] <pupit> oh
[18:52] <pupit> thanks
[18:52] <lns40> pupit: man mkfs.ntfs
[18:52] <ccfreak2k> There's a mkfs.ntfs?
[18:52] <pupit> ccfreak2k: mhm
[18:52] <ccfreak2k> When did this happen?
[18:53] <lns40> ccfreak2k: well... there is on arch anyway :P
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[18:53] <dtanner>  /sbin/mkfs.ntfs
[18:53] <lns40> ccfreak2k: also the ability to write on ntfs with ntfs-3g
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[18:54] <Necos> damn, networkmanager is fail
[18:55] <Necos> one of my students is working on his ubuntu laptop and it's being a spoiled bitch
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[18:56] <lns40> ewww buntu
[18:56] <edman007> lns40, ooo-bunt-nut
[18:57] <silvergold> Necos: Ugh, Ubuntu. replace with slackware asap.
[18:57] <silvergold> hey edman007
[18:57] <edman007> hi
[18:58] <C_Tux> Necos: he's your student, you can do whatever you want with him, get that ubuntu out of this laptop ;)
[18:58] <C_Tux> the exorcist for computers :)
[18:58] <silvergold> Install Slackware or you FAIL, not get an F, FAIL. :)
[18:58] <C_Tux> yo edman007 :)
[18:58] <edman007> yo
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[19:00] <edman007> C_Tux, i want xorg 1.6 NOW
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[19:00] <silvergold> edman007: ask nicely.
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[19:00] <edman007> i did, i think fred is in a coma
[19:00] <silvergold> I want xorg 1.6 NOW, please. :)
[19:00] <edman007> please
[19:00] <silvergold> there ya go. :)
[19:01] <silvergold> oh no, fred in a coma? We need a welfare check on fred.
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[19:02] <C_Tux> 1am, night everyone, hmmm 4minutes left of music :)
[19:02] <nachox> evening people
[19:02] <silvergold> night C_Tux
[19:02] <silvergold> Hey nachox, how are you>
[19:02] <akira42> gn8
[19:02] <silvergold> err, ?
[19:02] <silvergold> :P
[19:02] <C_Tux> edman007: just imagine : I have to run with the 'nv' driver now because I don't have >=1.5 !
[19:03] <nachox> doing fine, reading a bit
[19:03] <edman007> C_Tux, 1am?
[19:03] <C_Tux> a few hours ago, nv lagged my screen for about 4 minutes, yeah, it took it 4 minutes to draw a single frame !
[19:03] <edman007> your clock is broke
[19:03] <silvergold> edman007: He's in France
[19:03] <C_Tux> edman007: France :)
[19:03] <edman007> ahh...so its more than your clock thats broke
[19:03] <edman007> its ok
[19:03] <C_Tux> but yeah, my clock is broken, it says 3am :D
[19:04] <C_Tux> edman007: he :P
[19:04] Action: C_Tux doesn't care, he has actual food to eat, yeah, good tasty food
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[19:04] <silvergold> actual food? you were eating fake food before?
[19:05] <C_Tux> silvergold: not me but you american people :D
[19:06] <silvergold> "you american people" :O, I am offended. :P
[19:07] <akira42> lol
[19:07] <lns40> you american people with yer hamburgers and pizza huts.... and other junkfood!
[19:07] Action: silvergold hits C_Tux with an "AMERICAN" Trout. :P
[19:07] <C_Tux> :D
[19:07] <silvergold> take that Frenchy.
[19:07] <silvergold> :P
[19:07] <C_Tux> going to bed now, night all
[19:07] <silvergold> good night C_Tux
[19:07] <silvergold> :)
[19:07] <lns40> you american people with your obama bin laden!
[19:07] <lns40> :D
[19:07] <C_Tux> feel free to continue, I'll read everything on tomorrow morning :D
[19:07] <C_Tux> lns40: lol :p
[19:08] <akira42> gn8 C_Tux
[19:08] <edman007> C_Tux likes men
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[19:08] <silvergold> C_Tux: you read that on his blog too?
[19:08] <silvergold> err. edman007
[19:09] <edman007> silvergold, he jumped me once
[19:09] <silvergold> He must be gone, he'll read that tomorrow morning.
[19:09] <silvergold> edman007: Ah, what a way to find out eh?
[19:09] <edman007> sucked :(
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[19:11] <silvergold> edman007: did you report the incident?
[19:12] <edman007> i tried...i reported to the US cops, said its a french issue, the french cops said all french men people do that and like it
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[19:12] <edman007> s/people//
[19:12] <silvergold> hmm, didn't get far with that then.
[19:13] <dartmouth> oh, dude, leave him alone.  he's french.  they're jealous because they haven't won a military battle since the dark ages.  every war involving USA and France has involved us saving them from genocide.
[19:14] <edman007> :)
[19:14] <dartmouth> 'we are helpless!  help uncle sam!  oh, thank you!  by the way, we hate your narcissism that you bring with saving us from certain death repeatedly!'
[19:14] <edman007> hahaha
[19:14] <silvergold> haha
[19:14] <akira42> o.O
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[19:15] <dartmouth> then again, french women are wildly attracted to american men.  i wonder why that is?
[19:15] Action: dartmouth thinks we might have _other_ reasons to be 'top dog'
[19:15] <dartmouth> I think it all boils down to your definition of 'average'.
[19:16] <edman007> dartmouth, my work here is done
[19:19] <lns40> edman007: shut up you skank! :D
[19:19] <dartmouth> oh, hell, even the french don't like the french.  there is a reason for this.
[19:19] <edman007> skank? hahaha
[19:19] <lns40> hehe
[19:19] <dartmouth> wha'ts that gum commercial?
[19:19] <dartmouth> you two bit lint licker!
[19:20] <silvergold> haha, I've never seen that one before.
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[19:22] <RipVanWinkle> obama, osama, the only difference is the b s
[19:23] <silvergold> Hmm, coincidence that the difference is bs? :P
[19:23] <RipVanWinkle> it is odd
[19:25] <akira42> gn8 folks
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[19:26] <amazon10x> oh no
[19:27] <silvergold> oh no what?
[19:27] <amazon10x> "Hi folks -- the TODO isn't entirely empty here, but it's pretty much down to minor nits, and so we're going to call this release candidate #1 and (mostly) freeze further updates unless they happen to fix problems."
[19:27] <amazon10x> today's changelog for -current
[19:27] <amazon10x> but firefox 3.5 isn't in there yet
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[19:28] <lns40> amazon10x: YAY!
[19:28] <RipVanWinkle> silvergold: remember that black woman, Cynthia Mckenney, she was a us senator from georga that got fired for throwing her cellphone at a guard at the whitehouse, she was on that boat that was captured trying to sneak in to gaza
[19:28] <silvergold> RipVanWinkle: wow
[19:28] <amazon10x> lns40: yay for rc1? or yay for no fx 3.5?
[19:29] <silvergold> amazon10x: yay for rc1
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[19:29] <amazon10x> yeah, slack 13.0 is gonna rock
[19:29] <lns40> amazon10x: rc1
[19:31] <silvergold> amazon10x: FF 3.5 will make it eventually, it was just released yesterday. :)
[19:31] <rworkman> amazon10x: FF 3.5 just released a couple of days ago.  Are you using it yet?  How stable is it?  Do all of the extensions work with it?  etcetera...
[19:32] <thrice`> um, according to mozilla, it's 2X faster.
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[19:32] <rworkman> I don't notice a difference.
[19:32] <amazon10x> rworkman: i'm using it on windows xp; seems perfectly stable; all my extensions work (but i only use like 3 or something)
[19:32] <silvergold> I don't notice a speed difference at all.
[19:32] <thrice`> me neither; I was joking ;)
[19:32] <rworkman> amazon10x: This isn't Windows XP.
[19:32] <amazon10x> rworkman: wat!?
[19:32] <amazon10x> :P
[19:32] <rworkman> thrice`: :)
[19:33] <amazon10x> it seems faster to me, but maybe i just had too much kool-aid
[19:33] <thrice`> uses a little less memory, I think
[19:33] <silvergold> amazon10x: put down the kool-aid, step away from the kool-aid picture, it'll be alright.
[19:33] <rworkman> That was likely an accident.
[19:33] <silvergold> whoops, spelled that wrong. :(
[19:33] <thrice`> indeed
[19:35] <RipVanWinkle> 2x faster = marketing hype
[19:35] <thrice`> no wai!
[19:36] <RipVanWinkle> even amazon does it, he claims to be 10x faster than the regular amazon
[19:37] <thrice`> :D
[19:37] <silvergold> haha
[19:38] <amazon10x> i have accomplished more on the internet since downloading firefox 3.5, that i have in all the rest of my life
[19:38] <silvergold> wow
[19:38] <amazon10x> and you can quote me on that
[19:38] <silvergold> impressive
[19:38] <thrice`> yes, I only work 4 hours a day instead of 8
[19:38] <silvergold> 1836 < amazon10x> i have accomplished more on the internet since downloading firefox 3.5, that i have in all the rest of my life
[19:38] <thrice`> and just write "firefox 3.5" on my time sheet
[19:38] <amazon10x> well, i used to work 4, so now i can just work 2
[19:38] <silvergold> whoops, forgot the quotes amazon10x :P
[19:38] <amazon10x> darnit silvergold
[19:38] <silvergold> amazon10x: because of 3.5?
[19:38] <amazon10x> yes, because of 3.5
[19:38] <silvergold> amazon10x: here: "1836 < amazon10x> i have accomplished more on the internet since downloading firefox 3.5, that i have in all the rest of my life"
[19:39] <silvergold> amazon10x: why, does it do your work for you now?
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[19:39] <amazon10x> yes
[19:39] <silvergold> I noticed a much faster difference between opera 9.x and 10 snapshots than FF 3.0.x and 3.5. In FF, I notice no difference at all.
[19:39] <amazon10x> just today it invented a time machine for me and patented it, giving me a 5 million usd bonus at my company
[19:40] <silvergold> WOW, share the wealth man.
[19:40] <amazon10x> i haven't used the opera 10 builds in a long time; are they super snazzy now?
[19:40] <silvergold> imo, yes
[19:40] <amazon10x> silvergold: no wealth for you linux hippies; enjoy your free software :P
[19:40] <silvergold> It's in beta status and really close to final.
[19:40] <silvergold> amazon10x: well that's cruel. :(
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[19:41] <amazon10x> i wonder what the opera people are thinking with regard to teh fx release
[19:41] <amazon10x> i wonder if they were trying to beat it
[19:41] <silvergold> I doubt they even care.
[19:41] <amazon10x> or maybe they wanted to let it come out first, and have the storm calm first
[19:41] <amazon10x> yeah, or that
[19:41] <icarus_> man, piratebay being sold is such sad news
[19:42] <silvergold> opera 10 will soon be out, I doubt they care a ton as to what ff is doing, opera blazes their own trail and tries to be the first to have various features, etc.
[19:42] <amazon10x> yeah, is there any other popular tracker around?
[19:42] <Necos> hmmmm
[19:42] <Necos> anyone using wicd atm?
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[19:43] <amazon10x> if i rent an apartment, does it usually come with furniture?
[19:43] <Necos> no
[19:44] <nachox> in what place?
[19:44] <amazon10x> wth. how am i supposed to afford that
[19:44] <nachox> in argentina you can rent departments with furniture, but it's more expensive obviously
[19:44] <amazon10x> nachox: i dunno, it's just some apartment complex. it's in the usa
[19:45] <Necos> then no =p
[19:45] <silvergold> amazon10x: it depends on the place as to if furniture comes with it, but an apartment complex, eh, doubtful.
[19:45] <amazon10x> ooh, apparently i can "rent" furniture from a company
[19:45] <silvergold> they want to see you struggle trying to carry your couch up the stairs through the narrow hallways. :)\
[19:45] <Necos> lol yep
[19:46] <amazon10x> oh hey
[19:46] <amazon10x> this company here says they will furnish 2 bedrooms, living room, and dining room for 460 USD for 3 months
[19:46] <amazon10x> oh wait. that's per month. wow that's terrible
[19:47] <amazon10x> what a scam
[19:47] <Necos> lol
[19:47] <silvergold> haha
[19:47] <silvergold> amazon10x: how much do you expect to pay?
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[19:47] <amazon10x> http://www.bfr.com/residential/images/des_collection_img/fairview_plaza_lr_lrg.jpg
[19:47] <TClayton> amazon10x: try to find that rate in raleigh nc
[19:47] <amazon10x> looks pretty sexy though
[19:47] <amazon10x> TClayton: is stuff expensive there?
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[19:47] <TClayton> yes
[19:48] <Pig_Pen> wow, my isp freaked out because i was using port 6667
[19:48] <nachox> amazon10x, how much do you pay for the rent?
[19:48] <Pig_Pen> isnt that a bittorrent port?
[19:48] <nachox> Pig_Pen, incomming or outgoing?
[19:48] <nachox> i think that is irc
[19:48] <Pig_Pen> irc
[19:48] <amazon10x> nachox: the apt i was just looking at was $850 for 2 bedrooms
[19:48] <silvergold> Pig_Pen: irc uses that
[19:48] <amazon10x> 6667-7000 is irc. or something like that
[19:48] <silvergold> $850, whoa.
[19:48] <Pig_Pen> some sort of message come across the terminal about unauthoraive access
[19:49] <silvergold> amazon10x: with that 5 million you just got bonus, you should be able to get that one easily. :P
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[19:49] <amazon10x> silvergold: i spent the 5 million all in one place
[19:49] <silvergold> dang
[19:49] <amazon10x> i invested it. with this guy madoff; he said he gets great returns
[19:49] <silvergold> amazon10x: she must have been REALLY good looking. :P
[19:49] <Pig_Pen> what is the bittorrent port?
[19:50] <amazon10x> haha
[19:50] <amazon10x> Pig_Pen: i think most clients just default to a random port now
[19:50] <Pig_Pen> i can see why with ISPs blocking it
[19:50] <nachox> Pig_Pen, 6881-6889
[19:50] <Pig_Pen> 688x
[19:51] Nick change: slacks -> |Slacker|
[19:51] <amazon10x> silvergold: is $850 a lot?
[19:51] <silvergold> I would say so, yes, but I'm no expert on that.
[19:52] <silvergold> it depends on where you're at too as to what prices are.
[19:52] <nachox> Pig_Pen, you cant seriously stop p2p without some serious layer7 content filters in place
[19:52] <amazon10x> i wonder how a studio apartment would be
[19:52] <Necos> argh, gonna have to do this some other time
[19:52] <Necos> bbl
[19:52] <amazon10x> i probably don't have enough stuff to fill up a regular apt
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[19:53] <deco> does the dvd come with mysql etc.. ? or will i have to compile that ?
[19:53] <deco> lamp system
[19:53] <amazon10x> the dvd?
[19:54] <deco> yeah the slackware 12.2 dvd
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[19:54] <amazon10x> ohhh, the dvd has everything
[19:54] <nachox> i though osiloscopes were a lot more expensive, but it seems you can get one by just 270 us dollars
[19:54] <deco> amazon10x:even php.apache,mysql etc.. ?
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[19:55] <amazon10x> deco: yeah
[19:55] <amazon10x> it has all the slack packages, and i believe all the source code too
[19:55] <deco> amazon10x: wow nice, thanks !
[19:55] <deco> amazon10x: so does do the binary packages get updated with the package manager like any other distro?
[19:56] <amazon10x> deco: read about slackpkg
[19:56] <amazon10x> slackpkg can sync up with a repo and tell you what packages need updated
[19:56] <deco> amazon10x: k thanks
[19:56] <amazon10x> also, slackbook.org has some good info
[19:56] <silvergold> deco: check /topic here for some good links to check out.
[19:56] <deco> amazon10x: ah nice, i am planning on moving from fedora to slackware:P
[19:56] <deco> silvergold: thanks
[19:56] <silvergold> deco: you're welcome
[19:57] <|Slacker|> dae
[19:57] <|Slacker|> ooops
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[19:57] <|Slacker|> wrong window
[19:57] <silvergold> fail
[19:57] <amazon10x> deco: that's cool. is it a server?
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[19:58] <deco> amazon10x: no desktop but i do local web devlepment with it
[19:58] <silvergold> deco: nice.
[19:59] <deco> i was worried that i would have to spend a lot of time compiling lamp :P
[19:59] <amazon10x> nah man, slack has all the good stuff
[19:59] <amazon10x> if you do find anything you need that isn't in the slackware repo, check out slackbuilds.org
[19:59] <deco> amazon10x: i just need to buy some dvds to burn it with
[19:59] <silvergold> and slackbuilds.org/howto
[19:59] <amazon10x> deco: usb install ftw
[20:00] <deco> amazon10x: by bios don't support it :/
[20:00] <deco> silvergold: thanks ill read that for sure
[20:00] <amazon10x> bummer. how old is your computer?
[20:00] <deco> amazon10x: 2001
[20:01] <amazon10x> nice. i've got one from about that time; i don't use it any more though. now i'm on a state of the art 2ghz athlon with fifteen *hundred* megabytes of ram
[20:01] <deco> you think i can somehow mount the iso and install it from it? i don't really what im saying lol but i heard someone say that
[20:02] <deco> wow nice
[20:02] <silvergold> i.e. roughly 1.5GB
[20:02] <silvergold> my pc's from 2004 and does USB. :D
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[20:02] <deco> hehe
[20:02] <silvergold> USB boot
[20:02] <amazon10x> deco, you mean mount it on that same computer from an existing OS?
[20:02] <deco> amazon10x: yeah
[20:02] <amazon10x> silvergold: no usb boot
[20:02] <silvergold> amazon10x: yeah, mine can boot from usb. :)
[20:03] <silvergold> I know deco's cant
[20:03] <amazon10x> oh, i lost track of the convo; my bad
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[20:03] <amazon10x> deco: you could always just download the cd iso, if you have a cdr sitting around
[20:03] <silvergold> amazon10x: no worries
[20:04] <deco> amazon10x: oh but i don't get x with it :/
[20:04] <silvergold> deco: got 3 cd's? get the first 3 cd's and you should be good.
[20:04] <amazon10x> deco: what i do is i install whatever comes with disc 1, and then i boot up and run slackpkg and install everything else
[20:04] <silvergold> amazon10x's way works too. :)
[20:05] <silvergold> y0 hitest
[20:05] <deco> oh cool
[20:05] <deco> silvergold: it i just swap cds when it asks me right?
[20:05] <deco> and i*
[20:05] <silvergold> deco: I believe so, yes. I've never used the cd's, but I'm sure it'd prompt you.
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[20:06] <deco> silvergold: oh that's cool because i think i have some cds stored away some where
[20:07] <deco> how long does it take a version to reach eol ?
[20:07] <silvergold> a slackware version? Slackware 8.1 or something like that is still getting updates iirc.
[20:08] <silvergold> so a long time.
[20:08] <hitest> hiya silvergold:)
[20:08] <silvergold> and slackware takes a "When it's ready" approach, not a every six months approach.
[20:08] <amazon10x> i'll check email for the last security update
[20:08] <silvergold> hitest: how goes?
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[20:08] <deco> oh that's really neat
[20:09] <hitest> silvergold: pretty good, ty:) you?
[20:09] <ravigehlot> What would be a good brand-name for printers that are supported by LINUX?
[20:09] <silvergold> hitest: doing excellent, thank you. :)
[20:09] <silvergold> ravigehlot: I've always liked HP's. they have good linux support
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[20:09] <TClayton> ravigehlot: hp here also
[20:09] <ravigehlot> silvergold: Right. But they dont seem to offer printers with Wireless capabilities......
[20:09] <amazon10x> ravigehlot: i think there's a linux website that shows you all the printers and tells you which ones work and which don't
[20:10] <ravigehlot> amazon10x: Yes. The Linux Foundation has a good website.
[20:10] <ravigehlot> I found Brother to be the best wireless/rj-45/usb/lpt printer available with LINUX drivers....
[20:10] <amazon10x> silvergold: yeah, i just checked and slackware 8.1 is still getting security updates
[20:11] <ravigehlot> But I would like to get everyone's feedback before purchasing it
[20:11] <silvergold> amazon10x: yeah, I thought it was still, thanks for checking.
[20:11] <silvergold> ravigehlot: yeah, I have a brother all in one that works great too.
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[20:11] <ravigehlot> silvergold: ok
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[20:11] <ravigehlot> silvergold: What I also found out is that Brother printers have expensive toners. The toner is almost as expensive as the printer.
[20:12] <silvergold> ravigehlot: brother provides a lot of linux drivers for their various lines.
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[20:12] <ravigehlot> silvergold: yes. More than any other manufacturer.
[20:12] <silvergold> ravigehlot: The brother I have has individual cartridges for each color, so to get all of them, it's around $30 or so.
[20:13] <ravigehlot> silvergold: I am talking about Laser.
[20:13] <ravigehlot> silvergold: inkjet is cheaper
[20:13] <silvergold> ah, yeah, laser is not cheap
[20:13] <stealth-> Password: <input type='text' name='username'>
[20:13] <stealth-> opps
[20:14] <silvergold> stealth-: that could have been bad if you had your actual info. :P
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[20:14] <stealth-> heh, yeah.
[20:14] <ravigehlot> silvergold: the HL-2170W is only $124. It is laser, wireless and much more...
[20:14] <deco> does slackware include hplip in the dvd ? i can't find it in the slackbuilds.org site
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[20:14] <silvergold> ravigehlot: nice.
[20:14] <silvergold> deco: yes
[20:14] <ravigehlot> silvergold: newegg
[20:15] <deco> silvergold: cool
[20:15] <silvergold> ravigehlot: Ah, I check newegg out alot, haven't checked printers lately.
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[20:15] <ravigehlot> silvergold: cool.
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[20:18] <silvergold> wow it got quiet. :P
[20:19] <|Slacker|> is it my connex that suck's or the link for aircrack in SBopkg is broken
[20:19] <rob0> The link for aircrack has been broken for quite some time.
[20:19] <silvergold> The link is down |Slacker|
[20:19] <|Slacker|> i see
[20:20] <silvergold> eh, rob0 beat me. :(
[20:20] <silvergold> :P
[20:20] <|Slacker|> okies..thanks
[20:21] <silvergold> heh, I just converted a file to mpg and k3b still complains about not being mpeg1 or mpeg2. :P
[20:21] <silvergold> I used mencoder
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[20:33] <silvergold> r
[20:33] <silvergold> ?
[20:33] <silvergold> Heya BP{k}, how's it going?
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[20:45] <jumperboy> hmmm, just ran the latest current upgrade and now wicd won't work: "Unable to contact the Wicd daemon due to an access denied error from DBus. Please check your DBus configuration."
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[20:46] <Urchlay> grargh
[20:46] <Urchlay> is there some way to configure gmail to refuse to accept emails with 300+ names in the To: or Cc: fields?
[20:46] <Urchlay> (rhetorical question, I know there ain't)
[20:47] <C00re> why do you want to do that?
[20:47] <silvergold> ouch, that must be painful to look at.
[20:48] <silvergold> C00re: Umm, because most of the message is email addresses otherwise. :)
[20:48] <Urchlay> I run 1680x1050 and the list of names takes up an entire screen
[20:48] <blacksheep> yo yo yo
[20:48] <silvergold> no no no :)
[20:48] <blacksheep> just got off of work
[20:48] <silvergold> \o/
[20:48] <blacksheep> ready to dive into some slack!
[20:49] <silvergold> Urchlay: I run that same resolution, that would be horrible to look at.
[20:49] <Urchlay> I wish the hell email clients would use Bcc: by default, when someone wants to send a mail to a huge list of people
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[20:49] <silvergold> agreed
[20:49] <blacksheep> silvergold<< my most recent expedition into slack is sbopkg, and compiz
[20:49] <silvergold> blacksheep: nice. If you run current, check the changelog, rc1 is out.
[20:49] <Urchlay> it would be what, probably a 1- or 2-line change in the code of any given mail client
[20:49] <silvergold> probably, if even that.
[20:49] <blacksheep> silvergold<< negitive, I WANT to run current, but not quite shure how
[20:50] <silvergold> blacksheep: Ah, alright.
[20:50] <Urchlay> basically I'm pissed because I gave my address to this one guy, and he just sent it to 300 people whom I've never heard of
[20:50] <silvergold> Urchlay: ouch
[20:50] <blacksheep> yikes Urchlay
[20:50] <blacksheep> :x
[20:50] <Urchlay> and they probly all use fancy clients that'll automagically stick my email address in their "address book:
[20:50] <silvergold> Urchlay: spam mail will be on the rise for you. :)
[20:50] <silvergold> and they're possibly on windows and will auto-attach viruses too. :)
[20:50] <Urchlay> and if *one* of them turns out to be one of those retards who forwards jokes or  "inspirational" crap...
[20:50] <blacksheep> well Urchlay i have some good news that may cheer you up?
[20:50] <Urchlay> eh, viruses do not worry me
[20:51] <silvergold> Urchlay: If you like this message, please send it to 10 of your friends. :P
[20:51] <blacksheep> I am getting my medical marijuana card tomorrow :D
[20:51] <rworkman> Urchlay: I generally find that Replying and CCing everyone that he sent it to, AND utterly humiliating him in the reply fixes that problem.
[20:51] <silvergold> rworkman: Oh, that's a nice plan.
[20:51] Action: silvergold makes note of that.
[20:51] <rworkman> Well, it doesn't undo anything, but it does prevent it from happening again.  Generally I don't ever get *any* mail from that person again.
[20:51] <Urchlay> blacksheep: ehhh. Good news that you get to smoke without legal BS, but bad news that you have whatever medical condition you're talking about
[20:51] <rworkman> and I'm okay with that.
[20:52] <Urchlay> rworkman: well  the guy's a friend of mine
[20:52] <Urchlay> (the one who sent the ginormous 300-recipient mail I  mean)
[20:52] <blacksheep> Urchlay<< cut my fingers (tendons & nerves) mid april
[20:52] <silvergold> blacksheep: ouch, how?
[20:52] <blacksheep> stabed a wall and my hand slid up the blade :/
[20:52] <rworkman> Urchlay: in that case, I'd be nice about it.  He'd still get a mail, and it would still be CC'd to everyone (along with a note to please remove me from your address book if you don't know me)
[20:52] <Urchlay> blacksheep: ouch. Your fingers still work?
[20:53] <Urchlay> rworkman: if I had to guess, 99% of those people don't know how to remove me :(
[20:53] <rworkman> Likely :/
[20:53] <blacksheep> Urchlay<< sorta, getting better, surgen repaired the tendons, but the scar tissue underneath wont soften up enough to have 100% mobility for about a year
[20:54] <Urchlay> I need to get my old urchlay.com domain going again. Everyone who ever got "my" email address actually got their_name@urchlay.com, so when I started getting  spammed I knew exactly who to blame, and could reroute just that address to /dev/null
[20:54] <silvergold> blacksheep: good luck with getting all healed up man, that has to suck.
[20:54] <Urchlay> blacksheep: that sucks, but at least you actually will recover
[20:55] <blacksheep> thanks, it did suck, but I got 2 things out of it I am happy for
[20:55] <blacksheep> I finaly finished my CompTIA Linux+ study guide
[20:55] <Urchlay> (I mean I've met a guy who had a thumb on one hand and a thumb and pinky on the other, some kind of sawmill accident)
[20:55] <blacksheep> and i got medical buds now
[20:55] <blacksheep> not to mention, the free time from work brought me back to slackware
[20:55] <blacksheep> and eventualy, here :D
[20:56] <Urchlay> slack to backware!
[20:56] <Urchlay> errr
[20:56] <blacksheep> i get it ;)
[20:57] Nick change: repsol_ -> adrenaline
[20:57] <blacksheep> rolling me a nice joint
[20:57] <blacksheep> then im gana hit up some man files
[20:57] <blacksheep> then gana get compiz working
[20:58] <hitest> having a beer over here
[20:58] <blacksheep> nice
[20:58] <blacksheep> nothing better than a buzz and some command line interface action
[20:58] <hitest> I do some of my best work.....buzzed
[20:58] <blacksheep> lol
[20:58] <Urchlay> in something like 1994 I sliced a fingertip almost completely off on a meat slicer... took almost a year for the surface to heal up, there's *still* a lump of scar tissue in there (but it doesn't cause any  problems)
[20:59] <hitest> and some stupid stuff too
[20:59] <blacksheep> Urchlay<< thats gata be interesting, seeing a piece of your finger no there
[21:00] <blacksheep> Urchlay<< mine was just my index, middle, and ring finger of left hand sliced wide open along the bottom didget of the fingers
[21:00] <Urchlay> eh, almost cut off, not completely. it was hanging by a flap of skin, & the whole thing got statched back on
[21:00] <blacksheep> Urchlay<< could see the fat, mussile, nerves all that stuff
[21:00] <Urchlay> ow, ow, ow, dude, that's going to give me nightmares
[21:00] <hitest> ouch
[21:01] <blacksheep> yea it was gnarly, heres my advice to all
[21:01] <blacksheep> never play with knifes when ur mad
[21:01] <jeev> wee
[21:01] <jeev> i finished thy nagios
[21:01] <Urchlay> jeev: thou hast done well
[21:01] <blacksheep> nagois?
[21:01] <jeev> nagios!
[21:01] <blacksheep> ?
[21:01] <jeev> the new one seems easier to finish than the old one
[21:02] <jeev> i mean config
[21:02] <blacksheep> whats that?
[21:02] <jeev> www.nagios.org
[21:02] <silvergold> blacksheep: you spelled it wrong. :P
[21:02] <Urchlay> blacksheep: you mean, you weren't trying to  stab some person & missed, you were just doing the wall-punching-anger thing, but with a knife in your  hand?
[21:02] <blacksheep> Urchlay<< sadly....yes.....
[21:03] <silvergold> blacksheep: and you won't do it again, will you. :)
[21:03] <blacksheep> r u kiddin?
[21:03] <silvergold> :)
[21:03] <blacksheep> im nearly afraid to pick up a knife now
[21:03] <blacksheep> for any reason
[21:03] <blacksheep> hella cautious now
[21:03] <deco> wow and i thought my getting stepped on my leg and bleeding internally that my whole leg was dark purple accident was bad :P
[21:03] <Urchlay> didn't know you could get legal weed for something like that. Thought it had to be terminal cancer or something
[21:04] <Urchlay> (you're going to have a bitch of a time rolling a J, if your fingers are still messed up...)
[21:04] <jeev_> Linux slack 2.6.30 #2 SMP Sat Jun 13 20:10:00 PDT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q9550  @ 2.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[21:04] <jeev_> i think im wasting this computer on slack im sorry to say
[21:04] <Urchlay> ehmmm
[21:04] <jeev_> my office windows system keeps breaking, its an older system. i need to get back on win on this system ;/
[21:04] <jeev> :<
[21:04] <Urchlay> jeev: it's not a muscle. It won't get stronger from exercise.
[21:05] <jeev> eh
[21:05] <blacksheep> ll actualy Urchlay chronic pain is a very vauge term they use for cancer patcients and so forth
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[21:05] <blacksheep> im getting it for chronic pain, cause for the next year i gata bend my fingers back into shape every day
[21:05] <blacksheep> hurts hella bad
[21:05] <Urchlay> wonder what they'd give me
[21:05] <Urchlay> weed makes me paranoid and extra-stupid
[21:05] <blacksheep> nausia, insomnia lots of medical reasons
[21:06] <deco> blacksheep: play guitar that well help:P i did that when i twisted my finger
[21:06] <blacksheep> let me grab the brocure and list of WA states reasons
[21:06] <blacksheep> deco<< well right now my 3 fingers on the left hand are nearly stiff as rocks
[21:06] <Urchlay> allergic to morphine, too, AFAIK
[21:06] <deco> blacksheep: oh that sucks :-(
[21:06] <Urchlay> blacksheep: learn left-handed guitar (your left hand just needs to be able to hold a pick between thumb & one finger)
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[21:07] <Urchlay> eh, but I suppose that won't be all that therapeutic
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[21:07] <Urchlay> blacksheep: you can learn to play the rhythm guitar to "Iron Man" with  one finger :)
[21:08] <deco> hehe, tonny iommi choped all the tips of his fingers and covers them with a substance
[21:09] <Urchlay> superglue or something
[21:09] <blacksheep> Urchlay<< WA state qualifiing medical conditions: Chronic Pain, Arthritis Epilepsy Alzheimers IBS Muscle spasms fibromyalgia asthma eathing disorder glaucoma HIV/AIDS degenerative disc disease crohns disease multiple sclerosis migraine headachies chronic nausea hepatitits C seizures parkinsons cancer
[21:09] <Urchlay> does he still have to do that though? was 40+ years ago when it happened
[21:10] <Urchlay> eating disorder? like, you eat compulsively, so they prescribe a drug that causes the munchies? :)
[21:10] <silvergold> haha
[21:10] <blacksheep> like that, or no appitite
[21:10] <edman007> has anyone installed fglrx 9.6 recently?
[21:10] <blacksheep> i will be able to have 15 mature plants or 24 oz's of dried marijuana on me at any givin time
[21:10] <edman007> the packaging scripts seem borked
[21:10] <blacksheep> :DDDDDDD
[21:11] <Urchlay> 24 *ounces*?
[21:11] <blacksheep> yes
[21:11] <edman007> ERROR: Can't make output package in current directory.
[21:11] <edman007> what does that mean?
[21:11] <Urchlay> isn't that a shitload for one guy to be carrying around?
[21:11] <blacksheep> yes :o...
[21:11] <blacksheep> 2 lbs
[21:11] <blacksheep> 60 days supply
[21:11] <Urchlay> I mean I probably don't smoke 24 oz of tobacco in 6 months or a year, and I do a pack a day
[21:12] <blacksheep> i did the math
[21:12] <blacksheep> its a lil less than a half ounce a day
[21:12] <Urchlay> damn dude
[21:12] <blacksheep> which is like........14-15 joints?
[21:12] <blacksheep> if u roll them a gram a piece
[21:12] <blacksheep> which is a decent size joint
[21:12] <Urchlay> that would keep me in a coma
[21:13] <blacksheep> ;) thats the idea
[21:13] <Urchlay> eh, no, I would literally be unable to move,  and I'd have to be fed intravenously and someone would have to change my diaper
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[21:13] <Urchlay> 2 or 3 hits off a joint sends me off into paranoid scary fantasy land :(
[21:13] <dartmouth> this is interesting
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[21:13] <dartmouth> anyone seen the HP Mi Edition software?
[21:14] <blacksheep> well see, the cool thing is, I can sell any ammount of my crop back to the medical dispencery
[21:14] <silvergold> dartmouth: you mean the Ubuntu stuff they use?
[21:14] <Urchlay> if I smoked 1/2oz in a day I'd be too paranoid to move or even breathe
[21:14] <blacksheep> for other patcients to use
[21:14] <dartmouth> yeah, they've got a hopping new interface with some apps i've not seen before
[21:14] <dartmouth> i want to steal some of it
[21:14] <dartmouth> err uhm...download.
[21:14] <dartmouth> and install
[21:14] <dartmouth> and pay for later.
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[21:14] <silvergold> dartmouth: haha, I've seen it before, haven't seen it lately though.
[21:15] <silvergold> They've made it look nice though.
[21:15] <dartmouth> i just dont know what they're using
[21:15] <silvergold> They use Ubuntu, but aside from that, I have no idea what they add to it.
[21:15] <dartmouth> hrm
[21:15] <dartmouth> the desktop environment say gnome
[21:15] <dartmouth> but that does not look like gnome
[21:16] <silvergold> yeah, it's gnome, but they have that ui on top of it, I had read that, in it's first implementations of it anway, there wasn't a way to get to just a normal gnome desktop, but they may have changed that, or someone may have figured out a way to do so.
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[21:17] <dartmouth> the ui is what im looking into
[21:17] <dartmouth> im going to make a liveusb and see what i can pick apart out of it
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[21:17] <silvergold> yeah, they've done some heavy work on that ui.
[21:18] <blacksheep> brb, gana go...medicate :)
[21:18] <dartmouth> well...if it's just packages they've built, can't I just make sure I've got all the same libraries the liveusb has and move all the binaries, libs, links, etc, and then it should run on any linux kernel, right?  as long as it's the same version?
[21:18] <dartmouth> im assuming they're using a newer kernel
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[21:19] <silvergold> I would assume so.
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[21:19] <dartmouth> i would too but i want to run it by one of the 'elders' here after i learn more about it
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[21:19] <dartmouth> because if that's true im gonna make a slackware package, and im gonna make a deb and an rpm ^_^
[21:19] <silvergold> yeah, who know's how they've got it set up, that'd be cool if you got it working. :)
[21:20] <dartmouth> (and i will love them and hug them and name them george)
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[21:21] <silvergold> maybe if you send a really friendly email to HP, :P
[21:21] <dartmouth> hah
[21:21] <dartmouth> right.
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[21:22] <dartmouth> http://www.liliputing.com/2009/02/how-to-run-hp-mi-edition-from-a-usb-flash-drive.html
[21:22] <dartmouth> well if it's running on top of gnome it's going to require some heavy modification of the slackware system anyway
[21:23] <Urchlay> how much of it is proprietary and how much GPL/LGPL?
[21:23] <straterra> gnome doesnt require heavy modding
[21:23] <dartmouth> Urchlay: no idea yet
[21:23] <dartmouth> straterra: it doesn't?
[21:24] <dartmouth> straterra: dropline is invasive
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[21:24] <straterra> In what way?
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[21:26] <dartmouth> http://rignesnet.tzo.com/archives/2007-03-22T23_06_34.html
[21:26] <straterra> thats two years ago
[21:26] <blacksheep> ahhhh
[21:27] <blacksheep> well, time to figure out and understand sbopkg
[21:28] <dartmouth> straterra: if it's different now i'll look into it because i'd really like to have it on my -current setup
[21:29] <dartmouth> although I am very, very happy with ion3 and kde4
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[21:33] <blacksheep> nice
[21:34] <blacksheep> sbopkg pwntz!
[21:38] <grekkos> how do i scroll up or down in irssi if pgup/pgdn aren't working?
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[21:41] <Urchlay> grekkos: that's a damn good question
[21:41] <nooper> go scroll up 50 lines you can do /sb goto -50
[21:41] <grekkos> screen buffer goto -50?
[21:41] <nooper> go return, /sb end
[21:41] <grekkos> thanks
[21:41] <Urchlay> or bind whatever weird junk your pgup/pgdn keys generate, to the scroll commands
[21:41] <nooper> scrollback
[21:42] <grekkos> my pgup/pgdown keys scroll the terminal log
[21:42] <Urchlay> better fix that
[21:42] <grekkos> which basically takes me to ~/ $ screen irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[21:42] <Urchlay> see if you can set it up so shift-pgup/dn do that function instead
[21:42] <grekkos> oh
[21:42] <Urchlay> (that's the default on xterm and rxvt, no idea what you're using)
[21:42] <grekkos> well what do you know
[21:43] <grekkos> shift and pgup scroll up in irssi
[21:43] <grekkos> I knew i had some other way of doing it
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[21:43] <Urchlay> nice :)
[21:43] <chopp> thrice`: when you built firefox 3.5 for x86_64, did you have to modify the patches at all?
[21:43] <grekkos> actually this is on my mac Terminal.app but I haven't been using this a lot lately, I'm usually remoting to my linux from my work linux
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[21:43] <grekkos> I asked in here because you people seem to be able to give me better answers to my macx/unix questions than the people in #macosx
[21:43] Action: Urchlay used to run xterm on mac osx
[21:44] <grekkos> yeah you seem to be very fond of xterm
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[21:44] <grekkos> the x11 xterm or you compiled a new one?
[21:44] <Urchlay> eh, I installed their X bundle, it came with it
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[21:44] <grekkos> yeah
[21:44] <blacksheep> ok so i have everything installed for compiz
[21:44] <blacksheep> now, how to use it...
[21:45] <grekkos> I was using xterm when I was developing an X11 app
[21:45] <grekkos> on my mac
[21:45] <Urchlay> good reason
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[21:45] <Urchlay> I drove myself nuts trying to develop (or anyway port) a GTK+ app to the Mac
[21:45] <grekkos> in leopard though, you actually don't need to use xterm to open an x window
[21:45] <grekkos> Urchlay: yeah don't even bother
[21:45] <grekkos> haha
[21:45] <grekkos> I had the very same issue
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[21:46] <grekkos> I've reached the point where I can now compile GTK apps on macx, but using them is a pain still
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[21:46] <Urchlay> turns out you *must* have a resource fork in the app binary, or else it'll run but refuse to take focus. And, it turns out that (on that version of the OS anyway), "cp" wouldn't actually copy the gods-damned resource fork
[21:46] <grekkos> although it's not as bad on leopard as it was on tiger. on macx10.4 with gtk apps you had to click a window once for it to get focus, then click again to actually click the btuton
[21:47] <Urchlay> I have no idea which species of feline mine was named after, it was 10.3 I think
[21:47] <grekkos> hmm
[21:47] <grekkos> we'll call that one "Owl" for now until I can remember the name
[21:47] <Urchlay> not real impressed with the practice of naming versions after random stuff that doesn't give you a clue which is newer
[21:47] <grekkos> leopard is 10.5
[21:47] <grekkos> Ubuntu is doing it too
[21:47] <Urchlay> even ubuntu's stupid animal names are in alphabetical order
[21:47] <grekkos> and I think Linux Mint also
[21:48] <grekkos> haha yeah
[21:48] <grekkos> yeah 10.3 was panther
[21:48] <Urchlay> here, kitty kitty
[21:48] <grekkos> which came after Jaguar
[21:48] <Urchlay> maybe if
[21:49] <silvergold> and Jaguar came after Puma. :P
[21:49] <Urchlay> if I were a zoologist there would be some blindingly obvious order the great cat species are listed in
[21:49] <silvergold> which came after cheetah. :P
[21:49] <silvergold> good grief
[21:49] <grekkos> haha
[21:49] <Urchlay> "Well, duh, of *course* Jaguar comes after Puma, what, are you 'tarded?"
[21:49] <grekkos> apple would actually have a really good product on their hands if they would get their heads together
[21:49] <silvergold> haha
[21:49] <grekkos> they have a few loose screws, but I think it's got some potential
[21:50] <grekkos> those screws though...
[21:50] <Urchlay> grekkos: I was *really* unimpressed with the complete lack of ability to map mouse buttons for left-handed use
[21:50] <grekkos> as far as i know you can do that now
[21:50] <silvergold> brb
[21:50] <grekkos> but I don't know what version it was introduced in
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[21:50] <Urchlay> I mean, yes, the stock Apple mouse is one button. But the OS *does* support multibutton mice and in a usable way too... but I had to install a 3rd-party kernel driver to swap the buttons
[21:51] <spook> ummmmmmmmmmmm
[21:51] <spook> the mouse with the new imacs is a 5 button mouse
[21:51] <grekkos> the stock mouse they use now (i think the "Mighty Mouse") is actually two buttons
[21:51] <grekkos> r
[21:51] <grekkos> or at least there's a "left and "right" is what i mean
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[21:51] <grekkos> there are actuall a few more buttons depending on how you count the wheel up/down/click and squeezing the sides
[21:51] <Urchlay> spook: ok, s/is/was back then/, I bought my mac in 2003 or 2004 or so,  sold it in 2006, never did get into the whole apple world all that deep
[21:52] <spook> theres two side buttons, plus its easy to press both left and right at same time, and its bindable in the default mouse dialogue
[21:52] <grekkos> but the top is only one physical button I think, and then you lift up one finger
[21:52] <grekkos> and you can use the secondary button
[21:52] <spook> nup its two.
[21:52] <grekkos> is it?
[21:52] <grekkos> I thought it detects by touch
[21:52] <grekkos> like the track pad
[21:53] <Urchlay> mostly I bought it cause (a) it was a really nice machine designed as a UNIX workstation, and (b) it didn't require me to pay the MS tax
[21:53] <spook> which is cheaper, touch or a switch?
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[21:53] <Motoko-chan> It detects by touch, afaik
[21:53] <Urchlay> er, and, (c), I had more money than sense, in those days
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[21:53] <Motoko-chan> If you have your finger on the left half, it will register as a primary click.
[21:53] Nick change: dartmouth -> sdfsdf
[21:53] Nick change: sdfsdf -> austin``
[21:53] <grekkos> yeah because if you have both fingers on and push down with your right finger, it will still register as a primary click
[21:54] <Motoko-chan> Also, this is Apple. A few dollars extra for a mouse is nothing.
[21:54] <grekkos> hahaha
[21:54] <spook> it works if you dont have any fingers on it.
[21:54] <Motoko-chan> They will gladly sell you a wireless mouse for over $100
[21:54] <grekkos> as long as it's not like everything else
[21:54] <Motoko-chan> (It is bluetooth, but still...)
[21:54] Nick change: austin`` -> dartmouth
[21:54] <grekkos> http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/
[21:54] <Urchlay> Motoko-chan: I actually used a 1990s IBM Model M keyboard on the Mac, through  a PS2 -> USB adaptor. *Hated* the apple keyboard that came with it.
[21:54] <grekkos> "Touch-sensitive technology detects right and left click."
[21:55] <Motoko-chan> I need to get a modern Model-M.
[21:55] <grekkos> maybe we are talking about different mice
[21:55] <Motoko-chan> Unicomp sells them now.
[21:55] <Urchlay> Motoko-chan: if you do, lemme know how it compares to the old ones
[21:55] <Urchlay> I've got 100+ of the old ones, don't think I'll ever need to buy a keyboard again :)
[21:56] <Motoko-chan> Urchlay, want to send me one?
[21:56] <Motoko-chan> Only one I have left has a broken key.
[21:56] <Urchlay> for a few bucks, yah
[21:56] <Urchlay> (too poor to just give you one, or I would)
[21:56] <Urchlay> brbphone
[21:56] Nick change: dartmouth -> austin``
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[21:58] <blacksheep> hmm well that dident work
[21:58] Nick change: austin`` -> dartmouth
[21:58] <spook> brbfistinganalsex
[21:58] <silvergold> dartmouth: What the heck are you doing? :P
[21:58] <blacksheep> I followed that HOWTO to the T
[21:58] <dartmouth> haha sorry
[21:59] <silvergold> dartmouth: you should be, that's insanity. :P
[21:59] <dartmouth> i've been kicking this dude in my channel, and then switching nicks to one of our other admins while he's kicked, and then letting him complain, and then kicking him as that admin, and then switching back while he's gone.  i must have done it maybe 4 times now...
[21:59] <spook> heh
[21:59] <silvergold> dartmouth: there's nothing wrong with admitting you have an identity crisis.
[22:00] <silvergold> :P
[22:00] <blacksheep> can you be in init 4 and start compiz?
[22:00] <blacksheep> or do you need to run it outsde of x?
[22:00] <silvergold> blacksheep: where did you install it from?
[22:00] <silvergold> SBo?
[22:01] <blacksheep> yea some, half and half
[22:01] <blacksheep> SBo and sbopkg
[22:01] <silvergold> well, sbopkg gets from SBo. :)
[22:01] <blacksheep> right
[22:01] <spook> sbopkg is essentially SBo
[22:01] <silvergold> you install fusion-icon?
[22:01] <blacksheep> yup
[22:01] <spook> fusion-icon is what you want.
[22:01] <silvergold> run it from a terminal, or the run dialog in whatever de/wm you're in
[22:02] <blacksheep> it errored
[22:02] <silvergold> with what?
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[22:02] <silvergold> be more verbose please. :)
[22:02] <blacksheep> GTKwarnnings
[22:03] <silvergold> anything else?
[22:03] <blacksheep> 1_display_get_xdisplay: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[22:03] <blacksheep>   icon = gtk.status_icon_new_from_icon_name('fusion-icon')
[22:03] <blacksheep> Segmentation fault
[22:03] <silvergold> ouch
[22:03] <silvergold> seg fault
[22:03] <blacksheep> and befor those 3 lines a bunch of faileds
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[22:03] <blacksheep> seg fault bad?
[22:03] <spook> HTTP 418
[22:03] <spook> I'm a teapot
[22:03] <silvergold> blacksheep: well, it isn't good. :)
[22:03] <thrice`> chopp: I didn't build it with any, actually
[22:03] <blacksheep> obviously
[22:04] <blacksheep> so do i need some gtk libararys then?
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[22:04] <silvergold> not sure, I haven't used compiz in a while.
[22:04] <spook> gtk needs to die.
[22:04] <chopp> thrice`: so you commented out that section of the slackbuild?
[22:04] <silvergold> spook: long live qt? :)
[22:04] <thrice`> chopp: yes, but my FF doesn't recognize /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins, sadly
[22:05] <spook> or some merger
[22:05] <chopp> thrice`: allright well I can check it out for now at least anyway, thanks.
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[22:08] <deco> anyone know how to select wireless channels in console?
[22:08] <deco> basically i need a cli network manager
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[22:09] <BP{k}> iwconfig?
[22:09] <spook> iwconfig wlan0 channel 6
[22:09] <rworkman> thrice`: have a look at the patch in -current 64's source -- it should apply to /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5/firefox
[22:09] <spook> iwconfig wlan0 freq 2412
[22:09] <blacksheep> airmon-ng will do this as well
[22:09] <rworkman> deco: wicd-1.6.x has a curses client
[22:09] <rworkman> deco: are you on 12.2?
[22:10] <deco> rworkman: no still planning on installing slackware
[22:10] <deco> thanks spook
[22:10] <rworkman> deco: when you do, http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/
[22:10] <rworkman> I have wicd-1.6.1 and urwid there.
[22:10] <deco> rworkman: thank you very much
[22:10] <thrice`> rworkman: it does, but does it actually work for you?  I can't ge thet variable to work
[22:10] <spook> wicd-curses!
[22:11] <rworkman> thrice`: seems to
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[22:11] <rworkman> yeah, it does
[22:11] <thrice`> huh; ok, I must suck; youtube quit working here
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[22:11] <rworkman> thrice`: did you build from source?
[22:11] <thrice`> yep
[22:11] <rworkman> hrm...
[22:12] <thrice`> but my source/ is since gone
[22:12] <chopp> mine failed on the patches
[22:12] <thrice`> yeah, the mime stuff is definitely different
[22:12] <chopp> but otherwise built fine
[22:12] <thrice`> anyway, gotta run - bbl
[22:14] <spook> panties should have 411 on them
[22:15] <rworkman> http://slackware.com/~rworkman/mozilla-firefox/  <-- not official, and don't take that to mean that you'll see FF35 in -current.  Caveat lector.
[22:15] <rworkman> You'll need to get the source yourself
[22:15] <spook> what does caveat emptor mean?
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[22:16] <BP{k}> "let the buyer beare"
[22:16] <rworkman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor
[22:17] <BP{k}> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor
[22:17] <BP{k}> gah. :)
[22:17] <rworkman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_lector
[22:17] <rworkman> :)
[22:17] <spook> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_Caveat
[22:17] <hitest> lol
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[22:18] <blacksheep> im thinkin about it....
[22:18] <ipo> Already done long ago
[22:19] <ipo> :D
[22:21] <chopp> there, I rebuilt it just executing the plugin_path patch, and all is well. All plugins recognized.
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[22:24] <gtl> hi
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[22:26] <hitest> hello
[22:27] <chopp> rworkman: thanks for the FF. I'll rebuild it again now.
[22:36] <amazon10x> "Name-based virtual hosting cannot be used with SSL secure servers because of the nature of the SSL protocol." bummer
[22:39] <nooper> they need to change the nature of the SSL protocol
[22:41] <rob0> NSSL
[22:42] <rob0> stands both for New and Not-so
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[22:51] <zaltekk> I am trying to do a network install of Slackware 12.2 on my laptop.  I downloaded the USB boot image and used it to start the install.  However, I found out afterward that it doesn't have the driver for my network card.  Is there any way I can add the driver to the USB image?
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[22:58] <rworkman> zaltekk: what driver do you need?
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[22:58] <zaltekk> iwlagn for an Intel WiFi Link 5100
[22:59] <rworkman> zaltekk: there aren't any wireless drivers in the installer actually
[22:59] <zaltekk> ah
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[23:00] <rworkman> zaltekk: depending on what you have available there, there are some ugly hacks you can do :)
[23:00] <zaltekk> well
[23:00] <zaltekk> i have a microsd card reader and there is a microsd card in my blackberry
[23:01] <zaltekk> so i used it as a usb drive to boot the installer...but i am at a hotel so i only have a wireless connection
[23:01] <rworkman> If you can get the kernel-modules, module-init-tools, and seems like something else onto the system after booting the installer, and then install those two (three?) packages inside the ramfs /, you can then run "depmod -ae" and "modprobe iwlagn" :)
[23:02] <NaCl> Don't forget the microcode
[23:02] <rworkman> oooh
[23:02] <zaltekk> i saw instructions on slackware.com/~alien(i believe) that explained how to make your own usb boot image
[23:02] <NaCl> And wireless-tools, probably
[23:03] <rworkman> Yeah, n/iwlwifi-*-ucode
[23:03] <zaltekk> it is a bit outdated(for slackware11), but it should still work
[23:03] <zaltekk> the only problem is that i don't have a suitable environment to create it
[23:03] <nachox> night all
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[23:03] <NaCl> Or, you could copy a package tree to another partition on the disk before you attempt the install, then install from that.
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[23:04] <zaltekk> NaCl: that won't work from an ntfs partition, will it?
[23:04] <rworkman> Yep.  Where there's a will, there's a way.
[23:04] <rworkman> It *should* work fine from ntfs
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[23:05] <NaCl> Nothing in the tree needs to have certain permissions, right?
[23:05] <rworkman> None of the packages, no.
[23:05] <rworkman> I'm pretty sure I've done an install from either a vfat or ntfs partition before, just out of curiosity
[23:05] <zaltekk> so lets say...i boot from the usb  drive.  then i mount my ntfs partition, then from there mount the first cd .iso
[23:05] <zaltekk> and use that as the installation media?
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[23:07] <rworkman> zaltekk: hrm, if you can mount -o loop in the installer, then you would use the "install from already mounted directory" or some such
[23:07] <rworkman> One would think that I'd know the installer inside and out, as much as I use it, but I don't :/
[23:08] <zaltekk> rworkman: i could even expand the iso into a directory on the ntfs partition and install from there
[23:08] <Dominian> *FAIL*
[23:08] <NaCl> It may be better to pull down the tree with ftp
[23:08] <Dominian>  [ in bed ]
[23:08] <rworkman> zaltekk: if you have the tools in windows to extract the iso contents into a dir, then yes, do that.
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[23:08] <Dominian>  [ in bed ]
[23:08] <zaltekk> okay.
[23:08] <rworkman> Dominian: I'm sorry.  I hear that's failure in bed is a bad thing.  No experience personally :)
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[23:11] <zaltekk> rworkman: would the netinstall cd support my wireless card?  or am i going to need to go for the full first cd?
[23:12] <rworkman> zaltekk: if the hotel has the bandwidth, I'd pull down the first ISO and install from that.  Just skip what's not on it - you'll have enough to get working with what's on it.
[23:13] <rworkman> That will give you a functional system, and then you can use slackpkg or some such to pull the rest of what you need
[23:13] <zaltekk> yeah...but i'd prefer to not get the entire firstcd if it isn't needed
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[23:14] <zaltekk> i'd be able to download the entire cd, but it will take a few hours at best
[23:14] <stealth-> is programming spelt with one or two m's?
[23:14] <BP{k}> 2
[23:14] <cwtucker> 2
[23:15] <stealth-> okay, thanks :)
[23:15] <stealth-> i've been kinda using both spellings, being to lazy to check, and now all my file paths are messed up cause I dont know which one to use XD
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[23:17] <cwtucker> that usually happens when I get exhausted
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[23:20] <rworkman> zaltekk: this http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/ might be handy; not sure if you have the tools on windows to do it though
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[23:21] <zaltekk> rworkman: that is what i was saying about not having a proper environment to create my own usb boot image
[23:21] <grekkos> Does running Linux in a VM as a server sound normal to anyone here? that's how i'm told "it's done" "nowadays"
[23:21] <stealth-> grekkos: not really
[23:22] <stealth-> grekkos: you can run a linux server, then run vm's inside the server
[23:22] <grekkos> "but it's so great, you never have to actually touch the system"
[23:22] <stealth-> grekkos: thats common among powerful servers
[23:22] <grekkos> okay
[23:22] <amazon10x> grekkos: it's common, but certainly not the only way it's done
[23:22] <BP{k}> grekkos: depends quite on the definition of VM. But yes it's done. (think Xen perhaps)
[23:22] <grekkos> so if I have a linux machine and a linux vm in the machine that's somewhat normal?
[23:22] <amazon10x> grekkos: well, typically you have multiple VMs running on a host node
[23:23] <stealth-> grekkos: I suppose. For a dedicated server though, you'll probably want a second system.
[23:23] <grekkos> yeah
[23:23] <grekkos> the server we're using now at work is set up as a VM I'm told
[23:23] <grekkos> it's weird to me though
[23:23] <rworkman> grekkos: virtualization is the answer sometimes.  Sometimes it isn't.
[23:23] <grekkos> the home folder is owned by root for some reason
[23:24] <grekkos> so if i ssh in and use vim it gives me errors since it can't write the ~/.viminfo
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[23:24] <amazon10x> rworkman: you haven't been drinking enough vmware kool-aid. virtualization is *always* the solution. to everything. :P
[23:24] <stealth-> heh
[23:25] <amazon10x> grekkos: do you have root access? or sudo?
[23:25] <stealth-> "my webserver doesnt work :(" ---- "get a vm, that'll fix it"
[23:25] <grekkos> hahaha
[23:25] <silvergold> Anybody know of a program to use to create/print business cards? I've tried OO.o and it just isn't printing right (alignment issues, which I've tried fixing with margins, but it won't work in this case).
[23:25] <grekkos> supposedly we have root access but I haven't been able to get the password. I'm assuming it's been set up that way for some reason or another
[23:25] <zaltekk> stealth-: sounds like you've been reading vmware's website
[23:26] <stealth-> silvergold: oh, I know this, but I cant remember it atm :(
[23:26] <stealth-> let me think....
[23:26] <grekkos> "apache, the vm"
[23:26] <grekkos> lol
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[23:26] <silvergold> :)
[23:26] <stealth-> silvergold: okay I cant remember :(
[23:26] <amazon10x> grekkos: does your company own a physical server on which they virtualize? or are you renting a single virtual instance from another company?
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[23:26] <silvergold> stealth-: alright, thanks for thinking. :)
[23:27] <grekkos> I'm assuming it's a single instance
[23:27] <stealth-> we used it at school, to make business cards, but I forgot now. Ill tell you if I remember, cause thats bothering me now X|
[23:27] <silvergold> stealth-: haha, ok, thanks.
[23:28] <grekkos> the guys at work were saying they wanted a diesel dev server, and that they wanted svn and apache and php and mysql and when I heard the specs of the system I was like "what do you need all that for? we can use this crappy laptop i have right here with slackware on it"
[23:28] <grekkos> and so I set up svn and apache and php and mysql and nobody wanted to use it
[23:28] <amazon10x> lol
[23:29] <grekkos> then there's the issue that none of them actually know how to use svn
[23:29] <amazon10x> uh-oh
[23:29] <grekkos> I told them about how they need to merge their changes and they shruged and said, "Isn't there a GUI version for this?"
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[23:30] <grekkos> they assumed their changes would be merged *automagically*
[23:30] <eviltux> hi all
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[23:30] <grekkos> hi eviltux
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[23:30] <eviltux> :)
[23:31] <stealth-> omg my school website crashed :( after my uncle (who works for the school district) finished telling me how awesome their new setup is about a week ago
[23:31] <NaCl> grekkos: that's depressing...
[23:31] <grekkos> NaCl: I had to explain it a few times, and that only ended with them continuing to believe that "no, that's what svn is for"
[23:32] <grekkos> I sent one of them a diff and they asked me how to open it
[23:32] <stealth-> grekkos: send them to lmgtfy.com
[23:32] <grekkos> which is okay I guess, but then even after I explained it they just refused to use it
[23:32] <NaCl> grekkos: they need to be LARTed
[23:32] <grekkos> hahaha
[23:33] <grekkos> lmgtfy.com
[23:33] <grekkos> I like it
[23:33] <stealth-> yeah, wait till you see this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=svn+tutorial
[23:33] <amazon10x> a guy at my work saw that site the other day. laughed for like 30 minutes about it
[23:34] <stealth-> i just learnt about it yesterday, and i've posted links to it about 5 times so far
[23:34] <grekkos> hahaha
[23:34] <grekkos> "was that so hard?"
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[23:34] <stealth-> it works great for forums with people asking "what does chmod 777 do??"
[23:35] <grekkos> I'm so excited I can't wait to use it
[23:35] <stealth-> heh
[23:35] <grekkos> that made my day
[23:36] <stealth-> you can even tinyurl it, so they cant see what adress your actually sending them to, unless they do preview.tinyurl/urlhere
[23:36] <grekkos> yeah
[23:36] <grekkos> that's neat
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[23:38] <zaltekk> does anyone here have any experience using "Frugalware"?
[23:38] <brklynRednek> well, i finally contributed to the slack project...for once
[23:38] <brklynRednek> i bought a baseball cap
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[23:39] <amazon10x> grekkos: how'd you get wrapped up in this mess of a dev shop?
[23:40] <brklynRednek> now let's see how long it takes to get it from cali to ny
[23:40] <grekkos> amazon10x: a friend pulled me into it
[23:40] <grekkos> brklynRednek: I've had shipments in under a week from cali
[23:41] <brklynRednek> grekkos, assuming it ships in the morning...if it doesn't, no big worry...
[23:41] <zaltekk> 5-7 days is usually the standard for coast-to-coast shipping
[23:41] <amazon10x> grekkos: are you the only smart one there?
[23:42] <brklynRednek> i just hope pat had a decent margin on his manufactured stuff
[23:42] <hitest> brklynRednek: I love my Slackware baseball cap:)
[23:42] <grekkos> amazon10x: haha well I don't know, they're not very experienced I guess
[23:42] <brklynRednek> hitest, i'm sure i'll be the only one in my neighborhood wearing one
[23:42] <hitest> probably
[23:42] <hitest> :-)
[23:43] <amazon10x> brklynRednek: but it'd be pretty cool if you did see someone else wearing one
[23:43] <hitest> agreed
[23:43] <grekkos> for whatever reason I'm unable to ssh into their web server either
[23:43] <grekkos> it works fine from my desktop, but my laptop I get "connection refused"
[23:43] <grekkos> and I can't even ping it from the laptop
[23:43] <amazon10x> can you ping it from the desktop?
[23:44] <grekkos> yeah
[23:44] <grekkos> I thought of that too, like maybe they had it disabled
[23:44] <grekkos> but I'm actually getting "No route to host" from ping
[23:44] <grekkos> and "Connection refused" from ssh
[23:44] <amazon10x> can your lapotp ping your desktop
[23:44] <grekkos> hmm
[23:44] <grekkos> i think so
[23:44] <brklynRednek> amazon10x, that would be awesome
[23:44] <grekkos> I think i can actuall ssh into my desktop into the server
[23:44] <brklynRednek> amazon10x, i mean, truly awesome
[23:45] <amazon10x> brklynRednek: at the food co-op at my university i saw a guy with a slackware t-shirt
[23:45] <brklynRednek> amazon10x, i have an idea for a t-shirt(personal use only), but haven't asked pat for permission to use his logo in it
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[23:45] <brklynRednek> amazon10x, which university?
[23:46] <zaltekk> the only person that i have ever seen wearing a linux-related tshirt was a guy on campus wearing one with a ubuntu logo on it
[23:46] <brklynRednek> zaltekk, aka linux for pussies
[23:46] <grekkos> actually my univeristy is where I learned about linux
[23:46] <hitest> ubuntu     ewwwwww
[23:46] <grekkos> and how to use it
[23:46] <amazon10x> brklynRednek: if i told you... i'd have to kill you
[23:47] <amazon10x> it's on the east coast of the united states
[23:47] <grekkos> Georga Tech!
[23:47] <grekkos> Georgia*
[23:47] <amazon10x> ooh rah gatech
[23:47] <amazon10x> but no
[23:47] <amazon10x> :P
[23:47] <zaltekk> the tech school down the road actually has(or had...i haven't seen anything since the whole fedora/rhel thing got hte way it is) a redhat training program
[23:47] <grekkos> hah
[23:47] <amazon10x> grekkos: did you go there. i know people that did
[23:47] <grekkos> that was just a shot in the dark, I don't know any schools except the local ones
[23:48] <grekkos> no I'm in NY, that's where I went to school
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[23:50] <brklynRednek> amazon10x, let's put it this way, i'm a mile from brooklyn college
[23:51] <brklynRednek> and 2-3 miles from the chabad yeshiva
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[23:52] <amazon10x> you and grekkos should meet up
[23:52] <amazon10x> have a big slackware party
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[23:54] <amazon10x> bedtime. see ya
[23:55] <grekkos> slackware party.. I wonder what that might entain
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[23:56] <brklynRednek> grekkos, we harass the guy at kennedy's to provide something with taste as we compare our installations?
[23:56] <grekkos> hahaha
[23:57] <brklynRednek> grekkos, oh, i know...whitecastle and a rick roll FTW
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[23:59] <grekkos> hah
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