[00:00] toast pkgmgr? [00:02] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-213.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [00:04] yep [00:05] it's neat when it works [00:07] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:07] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:07] sounds cool what is so special about it? [00:08] `toast arm pkg' is all i need to type for it to wget, unpack, make, install. [00:08] it's neat when it works [00:10] woh3 (~will@67.232.145.174) joined ##slackware. [00:11] definitely sounds cool [00:11] yep [00:16] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Quit: [A] it's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom. [00:19] Is that the package manager that made a such a shit of your machine that you were complaining about outdated vsftpd versions? not to mention half 12 half 13 install? [00:19] sounds like fun times [00:20] sounds like shitstorm [00:24] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [00:25] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Client Quit [00:26] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [00:27] sounds like user is better off rm -Rf / [00:27] (DO NOT DO THAT BTW N00BZ) [00:27] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [00:29] yeah DO NOT DO THAT [00:30] FSCK THA WHAT? [00:30] true,A DEF NO-NO [00:30] NONG DOO DAT [00:32] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.219) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:35] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. [00:35] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:35] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Is anyone familiar with udev rules in here? [00:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:38] Action: antiwire runs [00:38] udev rules are like Windows registry keys [00:39] it's dirty, it's harsh, but in the end it's worth it [00:39] antiwire, They are a pain to get to properly apply to a device [00:39] don't I know it [00:39] sounds like a girl from mah neighborhood [00:39] mancha: haha [00:39] lol [00:39] I just can't get it to apply the permissions I need to my nexus one [00:39] mancha: "the dirtier the feet" the bettah [00:40] can i haz foot cheeze? [00:40] The hardest part about udev rules is finding a persistent way of identifying a given device. Once you get them working right though, having /dev/camera, /dev/joystick, /dev/gamepad, etc, etc is well worth it [00:40] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:40] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:41] ewww...thatz not footy cheeze!!...X_X [00:41] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:43] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:44] so, how would I know if a device it properly recognized and mapped if it does not have a clear name? [00:45] what do you mean by "clear name"? [00:45] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] typically, it will be noted in dmesg when a driver is loaded for a device [00:46] alisonken1home, So what part of the dmesg would I look at to see the name? [00:47] http://www.corsair.com/products/padlock2/update/default.aspx?utm_source=Corsair&utm_medium=PressRelease&utm_content=Update&utm_campaign=Padlock2_sec [00:47] do you have an example device? [00:47] note, if you don't this, the uber-secure padlocked flashdrive can have the pin reset with a special keycode while leaving all the data intact. *woops* [00:48] alisonken1home, yes, I am trying to setup my nexus one to be recognized and set with mode 0666 as stated in http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2450596/nexus-one-android-debugging-in-ubuntu-9-10 [00:48] BP{k} i never had a 12+13 situation, nor a prob with vsftpd. [00:50] alisonken1home, and note that I am using slackware 13.1 32-bit, I jsut referred to the ubuntu link because us slackers don't seem to document much. [00:51] mfillpot: I plug my verizon droid in and get this: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/M1gFO111.html [00:51] ok I just deleted something that is still in use. Is there any way I can undelete the file? [00:51] so what you're looking for is the "New USB device strings:" section to see what mfgr, product, serial number so you can fill in the udev rule [00:52] actually, it would be "device found: idVendor= and idProduct=" entry [00:52] alisonken1home, they are pretty much identifal except for the vedorid and productid [00:54] alisonken1home, I am using the following in 50-android.rules [00:54] UBSYSTEM=="usb",SYSFS{idVendor}=="18D1",SYSFS{idProduct}=="4e11",MODE="0666" [00:55] *it starts with an S [00:55] is this a typo here or in your rule? UBSYSTEM [00:55] yes, it should be USB [00:56] SUB [00:56] mancha, wow you type slow, read my last response [00:56] panzer how are you still using the file? [00:56] SBU [00:56] BUS [00:56] SUBARU [00:56] tripFantastic: rtorrent [00:56] datafile? [00:57] I do have a question. If you're going to the trouble of making a udev rule, WHY mode 666, the perms of the devil? [00:57] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:57] tripFantastic: yes. [00:57] Why not do it right, make a group or assign it to an existing group? [00:57] rob0, that is what is instructed to open android devices to debug mode for development [00:57] panzer while the file is still in use, you can get a fd to it from under /proc/[pid]/ somewhere [00:58] to save to a new file [00:58] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:58] rob0, how would I go about telling it that a GUID should have 0666 permissions? [00:58] sorry, I am new to udev [00:58] istevenmon (~chatzilla@200.25.197.109) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939] [00:59] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:00] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [01:01] tripFantastic: you mind helping me in a pm? [01:02] Sorry, I don't know udev stuff offhand, I have to look at examples, which I don't have time to do. Developers who recommend mode 666 sound like they might be developers with a poor understanding of Unix. Good luck, good night. [01:03] zomg...finally. finally got rid of a bad entry from form completing in firefox... [01:03] use arrow keys to select bad item and then shift + delete [01:03] now my password won't show up in the username field :P [01:04] rob0, ty anyway, I found the syntax, the idea helped. enjoy your evening [01:05] yes i am slow [01:05] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:05] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:06] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:06] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:07] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:07] Nick change: alisonken1noc -> kenr [01:08] ok I got a file still open and in use. I deleted that file from the system. per tripFantastic I am looking in /proc/(number)/fd but I don't know where to go from there. [01:08] any help? [01:10] kenr (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:11] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:11] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:11] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:11] well, I am out for the night. I will tackle this again tomorrow thanks for the help I received. [01:13] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CAE0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:10] njathan_ (~njathan@203.115.79.143) joined ##slackware. [02:13] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:13] Yep. [02:14] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.29) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:14] Probably one of the lizard-people. [02:16] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:16] could be [02:24] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.249.209) joined ##slackware. [02:24] hm.. i've wine'd ms word, but it seems there aren't any times new roman or arial fonts in there, how do i get those to run with ms word? [02:25] did you install fontforge? [02:26] rmielnic (~sadman@141.37.155.206) joined ##slackware. [02:26] webcore-fonts from slackbuilds.org might help, or corefonts from winetricks. [02:26] oh didn't know bout those, will start with fontforge thanks [02:27] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:28] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:28] eh do i need to d/l all 3 files (cidmaps, freetype) on slackbuilds? readme doesn't say anything [02:29] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.81.140) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:31] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.94.234) joined ##slackware. [02:31] stu_, yeah..check the slackbuild [02:33] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:33] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:34] hi all [02:34] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:34] is there a way to execute a command as *nobody* by root?. This program is a daemon and it does not have a switch or a configuration to execute as other user. [02:35] heya,briareus [02:35] advise for a good gui filemanager I can run in fluxbox that I can see thumbnails of photos in? [02:35] hba, su - nobody -c "your command line" [02:35] hi MLanden how are you today? [02:36] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:36] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:37] cr3_ (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:37] briareus, doin' fine thanks...pcmanfm or thunar [02:37] slava_dp: thats not gonna work, check su(1) [02:37] I will check em out, thanks! [02:38] hba, eh? always worked for me. [02:39] is it just me or does microsoft word 2003 look shitty with wine [02:39] hba, okay, use sudo -u nobody "your command" [02:39] i'm all for openoffice but it screws up the layout when i open it in a windows machine :/ [02:39] Nick change: initself_ -> initself [02:39] stu_, s/with wine// [02:39] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] briareus, another one that uses fox toolkit is xfe...dunno if it's still maintained or if it offers jpg thumbnails...good luck [02:41] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:42] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [02:43] MLanden: trying pcmanfm right now [02:43] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:43] oh, error. [02:43] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:44] "GTK+ icon theme not properly set" two choices: 1 run an xsettings manager, or 2. specify and icon them in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 [02:44] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:44] interesting. [02:44] does slackware have an 'xsettings' manager? [02:44] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [02:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:44] hba, I see why su - nobody -c command won't gonna work, cause /bin/false is the shell. sudo should work though. [02:45] hba, you may wish to create a locked user with /bin/bash as the shell just for your daemon. it's safer, than using nobody, as nobody may be shared. [02:46] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:46] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:46] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:47] thanks MLanden I think this pcmanfm will work just fine [02:47] briareus, which version are you using? [02:47] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-223.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:48] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:48] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:50] which version of what? [02:50] /bin/sh: /etc/slackware-version: Permission denied [02:50] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [02:51] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [02:51] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [02:51] lol [02:52] briareus, was referring to pcmanfm....was looking on lxde's site..know there was an issue with pcmanfm using gvfs that might be resolved(pcmanfm 0.9.7) [02:52] slava_dp: eip, your second idea can be work too, let me check wich one works better for me, thanks. [02:53] PCMan File Manager 0.5.2 [02:55] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:56] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:56] briareus, cool [02:57] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:46] kde would have auto discovery in dolphin or konqueror i think [03:47] but slava_dp you actually need to define the printer name in smb.conf iirc so it probably isnt being shared unless you set that up and forgot about it [03:47] MLanden: I'm hooked, and I haven't even seen it. [03:49] stunix (1000@85.19.183.21) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:49] oobe, I'm trying to print to a print server, ipp is broken in the new cups (used to work with cups 1.3), so I'm looking into other ways. smb is one. [03:49] MLanden: do you use it? [03:51] reminds me of the zoomability of autocad [03:51] briareus, was just messing with it....it is different [03:51] is it a wm itself? or a filemanager. [03:52] filemanager of sorts is the best way I can describe it [03:52] did it require a lot of geekery to get it running? [03:53] I see they have a .tgz made for 13.0 [03:55] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. [03:55] MLanden: effortless install [03:56] briareus, just type eaglemode...and see if it'll run(or if it cries for deps or libs) [03:57] what a trip [03:57] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:58] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [03:58] ha, its all an eagle [03:58] trippy, cool, different. thanks MLanden [03:59] negrou (~negrou@186.110.11.207) joined ##slackware. [03:59] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434942.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [03:59] briareus, np..you mentioned filemanager and was trying to recall this one...when I looked in sourceforge [03:59] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:59] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434942.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:01] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. 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[04:19] njathan_ (~njathan@203.115.79.143) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:24] briareus, useful for looking and searching through the folders..but still used to going into terminal to do the heavy work [04:26] yeah [04:28] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [04:30] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [04:31] HappyNwb (~experimen@ti0125a380-1351.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:35] Morn [04:36] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:37] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:37] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Zordrak, mornin' [04:39] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:41] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. 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[05:04] hi all [05:06] slava_dp, http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/SystemRequirements.html ... only hickup,might be the rsvg lib and maybe libjpeg..was messing with the slackware package from their sourceforge site http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/download.html [05:07] meant from rsvg and libjpeg* [05:08] rmielnic (~sadman@141.37.155.206) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:08] MLanden, getting the tgz.... didn't know they had a package [05:14] hba (~hba@189.188.110.253) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:16] HappyNwb (~experimen@ti0125a380-1351.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [05:17] slava_dp, able to use your locale? [05:18] dios_mio (test@78.179.106.199) joined ##slackware. [05:18] we'll be having planned electricity outage now. /me goes offline :/ [05:18] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [05:19] Later,folks!! 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[06:21] hello, where in kde 4 do i change language for my keyboard? [06:23] humaren: did you ask in #kde ? [06:24] no, i didn't, but i must now [06:24] you may get a quicker answer there [06:25] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [06:25] ok [06:25] thanks for the tip! [06:26] asamoah (~caio@190.244.44.222) joined ##slackware. [06:28] humaren: wait [06:29] yes, Zordrak ? [06:29] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:29] humaren: Are you talking about the ability to switch between keyboard layouts.. or do you just want to have a non-US layout in X? [06:29] Zordrak, i whant to switch keyboard [06:30] humaren: while that doesn't exactly answer the question, you may be interested in: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/30/slackware-13-0-xorg-hal/ [06:31] ok, thanks for the tip [06:31] humaren (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:36] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:40] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:40] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [06:40] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [06:43] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [06:44] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [06:45] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [06:45] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:48] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-235-253.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. 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[07:26] why not binaries [07:26] because binaries are not portable [07:26] meh [07:26] cr3: because binaries arent compatible across all systems [07:26] cr3, because sources are portable. unix systems are not limited to linux. [07:27] Action: adrien was first \o/ [07:27] somebody needs to unify linuxes [07:27] dios_mio (1000@78.179.106.199) joined ##slackware. [07:27] cr3, no [07:27] could be version differences [07:27] cr3: Do you realise just how inane that statement was? [07:27] no [07:27] cr3: Then shush. [07:27] how about linux standard base project [07:27] why do you want binaries anyway.. it's not like compiling / slackpackages are that much trouble [07:27] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. [07:27] there is a linux standard base.. the kernel [07:28] Now.. to try to work out why google earth doesnt draw anything to its view window.... [07:29] damnnit. gnucash failed to build [07:29] tsccof (~highcompa@server.gramadosite.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[07:45] dang, how do i activate colors in bash, differentiating directories and files [07:46] ls --color, as it says in the help or manpage [07:46] there's a setting somewhere, maybe a alias to make it default [07:46] the default profile sets that by default doesnt it? [07:47] stu_: if you issue bash -l, does that enable it? [07:47] if so you're just not in a login shell [07:48] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:48] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:48] Action: Zordrak does *the dance* ... # We're getting Wi-Fi, we're getting wi-fi! [07:50] oh yeah.. oh yeah.. churn the butter, woop woop! [07:50] lol [07:50] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [07:55] Zordrak, thats the thing my default accountdoesn't setit [07:59] which i find weird because i always had it OOTB [08:00] stu_, which terminal do you use? [08:01] tsccof (~highcompa@server.gramadosite.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[08:23] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:27] woo.. i has gnucash [08:27] Hi Zordrak o/ [08:29] Roin: hi stalker [08:29] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-10-175.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [08:29] :( [08:30] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:30] Roin: no-one else randomly says hi to me every day :) [08:31] sorry didnt want to sound unpolite [08:31] heh.. no worries [08:33] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: life(); [08:37] nian (~jack@133-188.dsl.iskon.hr) joined ##slackware. [08:37] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [08:38] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:38] hmm.. what the hell... bank allows me to choose "Microsoft Money (OFX)" or "Sage Line 50 (OFX)" or "Quicken 2001 onwards (OFX)" (as well as a couple of non OFX) [08:38] surely theres no difference [08:39] robertzaccour (~robert@24-183-222-21.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:40] hey, I informed Distrowatch about the error that the site says about Slackware in the paragraph under Major Distributions>Slackware [08:40] i don't see how such a silly error could have gotten past them haha [08:42] *looks* [08:42] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:42] here's the email I sent: I feel I have to mention an error I found in Major Distributions>Slackware and I quote the source " Pros: Highly stable, clean and bug-free, strong adherence to UNIX principles" Notice this is verbatim, and notice also the workd "bug free". I'm not currently a Slackware user, however I'm sure that the community as a whole and new users as well wouldn't feel at ease with such claim errors on Distro [08:42] watch touting claims that are simply impossible to live up to beause "bug free" is merely impossible when it comes to computer operating systems. Just thought it should be pointed out, thanks. [08:42] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:43] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [08:43] yes i notice i did a typo haha [08:44] anyone to save bytes and lines on the channel? they're very expensive and it'd be a good idea not to waste them [08:44] haha [08:44] didnt get that one ._. [08:45] eddie_grey (~informati@189.75.30.128) joined ##slackware. [08:45] you're not missing anything [08:45] ok [08:45] just thought i'd add a little humor i found to the chat [08:45] robertzaccour (robert@24-183-222-21.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:49] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [08:49] yes.. that was a riot. ha. ha. .....no [08:52] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:53] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [08:56] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:57] klein (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) left irc: Quit: levar mãe no médico.... [08:59] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Hey so, when I run /sbin/lilo, does it automatically intall to the boot=sdxy in /etc/lilo.conf or is there a way to specify where it should be installed. [09:03] execute liloconfig as root [09:03] nian: lilo does only what you tell it to in the conf [09:04] anyway to recreate /var/log/packages? [09:04] reinstall [09:04] sureeee [09:04] So it just installs to the boot= part in the conf? Because thing is, I point it to the right partition, and run lilo, but when I reboot it's like it's not there. [09:05] he is asking if boot=/dev/sdX is how lilo knows where to install the boot sector [09:05] so the answer is yes [09:05] Alright, thanks. [09:05] happy canada day to all you unfortunate cold people [09:05] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [09:05] happy canadian beer day [09:05] Skywise: screw you, heh. I have to work! [09:06] lol [09:06] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CAE0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:06] nian, if your having trouble getting lilo to run make sure your bios is set to boot the right disk [09:08] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-158.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:09] i'm heading out to the co-location to build a cluster, i'll be there all day [09:11] nian (~jack@133-188.dsl.iskon.hr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:12] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.113.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:12] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:12] nian (~jack@148-170.dsl.iskon.hr) joined ##slackware. [09:12] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.124.122) joined ##slackware. [09:13] oobe, Yeah, it's booting from the right one, but it's booting up grub, which was installed prior to lilo, guess it's not overwriting it or something. [09:14] if you are installing lilo to e.g /dev/sda1 but grung is installed to /dev/sda then that would happen [09:15] cause the bios will read the boot first sector found on the disk [09:15] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:16] I'm installing to /dev/sda though, so that should install it to the MBR right? [09:17] yes [09:17] perhaps try running liloconfig as previously suggested by someone else [09:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:17] Yeah, gonna try that. [09:18] nian: The MBR is the boot block of the drive, the very beginning; it includes the boot loader and the partition table (in that order). What does your lilo.conf look like? (pastebin) [09:19] Eh, boot=/dev/sdd and root=/dev/sde1, no connection on the netbook right now, that's pretty much it though. [09:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] Action: Zordrak needs a "gnucash for dummies" [09:20] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Only thing that I can think of is that after running lilo with that I should switch it to boot=/dev/sda and root=/dev/sdb1 since the current labels are the result of the installer, which I'm using to boot the system is naming the installer and an external hdd as sda and sdb, no idea where sdc went but yeah. [09:21] Which is why boot and root are sdd and sde1 right now. [09:22] CtrlAltCa (fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left ##slackware ("Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"). [09:22] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:22] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:22] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [09:24] nian: Why are sd{a,b} still plugged in if you've completed the install? [09:25] sda is the installer, which I need to boot into the system, since lilo doesn't work. [09:25] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:25] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:25] sdb, no reason really. [09:26] Actually, sorry, sda is the external, while sdb is the installer. [09:26] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:27] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [09:28] I am still searching for a deGNUded distro; anyone know of any? [09:28] tripFantastic: ask in #gnu or send RMS an email [09:28] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [09:28] oh sorry you mean without gnu software? [09:28] pff [09:28] heh yea [09:29] what would that be? no gnu tools included? get a bsd then [09:29] how ya bin? [09:29] no, i want linux [09:29] debian maybe ? [09:29] then gnu is for ya. [09:29] look at sta.li [09:29] thats a url^ [09:29] non-gnu [09:29] nian: So let me get this right. sda has a USB bootable device for Slackware, sdb has the /slackware directory on it. sdc is unknown, sdd has your /boot partition (sdd1) and sde has your / and other partitions. Just for paranoia, how are you determining this? [09:29] cfdisk [09:29] sfdisk ftw [09:29] Once I've booted into the system. [09:30] i dont know of anything that doesnt include the gcc though [09:30] sahko well, there are good replacements for gcc [09:30] stalin? *shrugs* [09:30] tripFantastic, lol, like? [09:30] thrice` I'M GLAD YOU AXED!!! [09:30] omg, llvm + clang!! [09:31] Dexter (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:31] have you actually *tried* them, or just read about them online? [09:31] lcc, icc, Compaq's, tinycc, tcc etal on sf.net [09:31] lcc, tcc, tinycc [09:31] how many of those compile the kernel? [09:31] 2 [09:32] i dont know if lcc can [09:32] tripFantastic: thanks for the info last night. [09:32] tinycc is continuing fork of tcc [09:32] if you include icc in yuour 2, that's not fully right [09:32] why? [09:32] panzer yw [09:32] nian: It was suggested to you yesterday to remove the sd{a,b} and pass the LILO arguments at the boot prompt. Once you can confirm a correct boot, you can enter that information into your lilo.conf and run lilo for persistence. [09:32] because there have been icc-kernels released by 3rd parties, but the kernel as distributed doesn't compile under icc [09:33] panzer you cp'd the file via proc/? [09:33] tripFantastic: yes. [09:33] kool [09:33] panzer now learn midnight commander [09:33] nian: You're never going to get things going right with two drives plugged in that are being detected incorrectly. (I'm still baffled how sd{a,b} are USB be drives, while internal drives are sd{d.e}.) [09:34] s/being detected incorrectly/not being used/ [09:34] he should use uuid instead device names in that case [09:34] or labels [09:34] Skywise: That seems reasonable, too. [09:35] fallertsen (~Franz@host151-41-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:35] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:36] tripFantastic: I feel a bit more comfortable at command line. [09:36] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-spsiubsjgukbmekj) joined ##slackware. [09:36] k [09:36] lrn2anyway :) [09:36] Once I've booted into the system." Thing is, there is no lilo boot prompt, it just goes to grub, which used to be the boot loader, and it just gives me error 15, so it's not even giving me access to the grub command line. [09:37] nian: You can use tune2fs and grep for UUID or name to determine existing UUID and label. [09:37] nian: So use GRUB to do this (which means LILO is not getting installed to the correct boot block.) [09:37] it would be hard to have a gnu-less linux, aside from a compiler you'd need a toolchain alternative to glibc...not sure how stable eglibc is yet... [09:38] Yeah, actually doing it by UUID could work, gonna try that, thanks, gimme a few. [09:38] debian is shipping eglibc by default, I'd guess it's fine [09:38] sinuhe, To do what? Boot into the system? [09:38] is it the default already? cool [09:38] mancha there are alternate tools to make a chain alreday. [09:38] well, it is in debian squeeze, which is the next-stable release [09:38] nian: If GRUB is booting and LILO is not overwriting it, then you are booting to something different than you think you are. [09:39] theres also uclibc [09:39] yep [09:39] nian: But GRUB will work. Type e to edit the label, then modify the 'kernel' entry. You might note the GRUB root entry which will tell you where /boot is. [09:40] (Why is GRUB present? Another existing Linux install?) [09:40] tripFantastic, what's the point? GNU command-line tools are awesome. [09:40] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:40] slava_dp they are all different aspects of EMACS :) [09:40] heh [09:40] pigs always swapping [09:41] that's not true. [09:41] i'm entitled to my own delusions; fuck you :) [09:41] lol [09:41] and in a different channel [09:41] sinuhe, But grub doesn't even get to that part, or stage, it just goes grub loading, then gives me an error 15, and yeah, there was one, overwritten by slack, can I edit the root etc lines even when I get error 15? [09:41] well, no one else gets me :) [09:42] neither do we; take your troll-ish crap elsewhere [09:42] nian reinstall your desired booter [09:42] tripFantastic, gtfo. [09:42] i'm helping someone [09:42] c'mon, have a sense of humor, pls? [09:42] nian: So that means GRUB is there, but isn't finding its menu.lst. It still tells me you are booting from a boot sector different from the one you are installing LILO to. [09:43] tripFantastic: That wasn't helpful. [09:43] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:43] `error 15' is a lilo response; if you're trying to use grub then you have to uninstall lilo [09:43] LOL [09:44] tripFantastic, you say you are helping? you have no clue what the matter is even. [09:44] sinuhe, Honestly, out of ideas here, cfdisk shows me sdd1 as the my boot partition, lilo.conf has boot=/dev/sdd, so that should be fine, the only error /sbin/lilo gives is that sdd isn't the first disk, and that's only a warning actually. [09:44] tripFantastic, go install a BSD and have fun. [09:44] i tried bsd once, i didnt enjoy it. [09:44] tripFantastic: error 15 is a GRUB error. [09:45] ok [09:45] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:45] tripFantastic, Appreciate the help, but there's a whole background to this problem, you just missed the description I guess. [09:45] ok [09:45] do you have odd USB sticks plugged in or something? [09:45] Just the installer which I need to boot into slackware. [09:46] mm, nevermind, system disks should get a dev node before usb stuff is initialized [09:46] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:46] thrice`: Exactly [09:47] thrice`: nian is confused where he has installed Slack and isn't sure where to point LILO to boot. [09:48] sinuhe, I can mount /dev/sdd1 and confirm it's the boot partition, same with sde1, which is the root one. [09:48] nian: Are you sure those aren't your USB drives? [09:49] fdisk -l [09:49] blkid too [09:49] Yeah, the only usb I have is the installer, and that's 65 mb. [09:50] sinuhe, sdd has 4 gb in total, matches up in cfdisk, same with sde, which is 160 gb. [09:50] nian: You said that sda was a bootable USB and sdb had /slackware on it. Perhaps I assumed that sdb was also USB? [09:50] arghh, i need to purge my box of crap, i am down to 3 gigs free [09:51] Action: slava_dp removes random files on mancha's disks [09:52] Action: adrien changes /boot/vmlinuz's location on the disk [09:53] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:53] nian: The information you are giving suggests that what you are doing with LILO should work. That fact that it doesn't, and the fact that you are telling us your USB stick is on sda, suggests to me that you don't know what drives are what, outside of where you have *a* /boot and / partition that can mount. [09:54] eldragon_ (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [09:55] mancha brgin with var/logs [09:55] begin [09:55] s/That fact/The fact/ [09:55] then usr/docs [09:55] sinuhe, Give me a second, I'll try booting into the system again and then I'll send you, fdisk via pastebin or something. [09:55] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [09:56] nian: fdisk only shows that there are partitions, and drive size (which can help with identifying the drives). I'm more curious what your dmesg says about sd{a,b,c,d,e} [09:56] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:56] tripFantastic, do you use slackware, even? neither /var/logs/ nor /usr/docs/ is correct :o [09:57] thrice`: There may be a bigger question of whether he even uses a Unix system of any kind. [09:57] sinuhe, That works too, give me a few though. [09:57] wobbles (huntsman@C-59-101-133-95.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:58] nian: No problem. I'll be here all day. :) [09:58] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:58] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.28.221.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:59] sinuhe, Great, thanks for the help by the way, appreciate it. [09:59] tripFantastic i have good rotation specs for my /var/log stuff, that part's not causing my touble [09:59] i just have a lot of crap i never use installed and also lots of other stuff i should just remove. [09:59] the pr0n is, surely :D [10:00] :> [10:02] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:09] revel0_ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Nick change: revel0_ -> revel0 [10:10] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:13] sinuhe, Will dmesg | grep sd do? [10:13] Or is there a simpler way. [10:14] would fluxbox run w/o X? [10:14] heh [10:15] how the hell do you get so confused that you could even think that would work? [10:15] Azeotrope, that's noobfarm level [10:16] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:16] nader (nader@85.133.204.230) left ##slackware. [10:16] slava_dp: noobfarm == azeotropefarm [10:17] i was thinking i can do something and not install the x packages in order to run fluxbox [10:17] for a minimalistic slack [10:17] and hell, you're gonna miss me. i'm leaving tomorrow [10:18] :D [10:18] Action: Zordrak orders champagne [10:18] Going where? [10:18] daniel (~daniel@81-229-77-134-no64.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:18] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:18] outside of IRC [10:18] Don't you do that every day? I do. [10:19] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-10-175.kotinet.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:19] Azeotrope, You could always consider tabbed window managers like wmii etc.if you're going for minimalistic. [10:19] I just spoke to human beings, minutes ago, before sitting here. [10:20] there might be a lighter weight gui environment than vanilla X, too [10:20] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:20] ...yes. to have a minimalistic install with an x window manager, let's not install x packages [10:20] klein (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) joined ##slackware. [10:20] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. [10:20] nian: yea, i'm gonna try them both. thanks [10:20] there are some framebuffer setups, right? [10:20] Np. [10:20] directfb maybe, but I don't think it can use a X window manager; I could be wrong tho [10:20] i saw some ancient doc on using gtk apps in framebuffer [10:20] rob0: ha! I got you beat. I have a real live human being behind me that talks to me sometimes [10:21] christian (~christian@gssn-4d007ed4.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] hi [10:21] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:22] nah, a human being just brought me a cat [10:22] sirslack1r (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:22] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:22] yeah well a human just let me peel tape off of a counter! [10:22] I love peeling tape [10:22] lol [10:23] wolven (~wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:23] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-235-253.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:24] johndee (~id@78-106-247-67.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:24] sirslack1r (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Client Quit [10:26] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CAE0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] eddie_grey (~informati@189.75.30.128) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:28] lamah (~ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [10:28] slava_dp, sorry went out just now. i use konsole [10:30] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:30] stu_, there's a checkbox in the settings to use a login shell. tick it. [10:30] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:31] there's no reason to to. [10:31] s/to to/not to/ [10:31] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [10:31] danix (~danix@host68-63-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:31] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:32] hm can't seem to find that [10:32] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:32] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:32] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:33] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:34] can you use lvm to combine 2 partitions? i have one ext4 and one ext3 (with data) and i want to combine them and keep the data. [10:35] blacklinux (~blacklinu@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [10:35] hey, how do you put the system status thingy on XFCE? [10:35] and regarding swap, for i have 4gb of it and 4gb of ram. i use under 3% of swap. can I make it a regular file? [10:35] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:36] Azeotrope: yes, but only at the device and not filesystem level [10:36] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [10:36] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:36] blacklinux: what system status thingy? [10:36] Azeotrope: and yes, about using swap on a regular file [10:37] konsole --ls will start it as a 'login shell' [10:37] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:37] its shows your OS, Ram used and other stuff like that on the side sahko [10:37] trhodes: what do you as a device? i just don't want to have so many partitions anymore. [10:37] what do you mean [10:37] I use a swap file [10:37] blacklinux: Slackware includes gkrellm [10:38] OK, cleaned out 3 Gigs of crap, back to 6 gigs free. not bad for one hour's work. [10:39] The basic idea of LVM is to not partition much. Dole out logical volume space from a single big partition as needed. FS support is required for expanding or shrinking, read up about your chosen FS[s]. [10:39] i think plugging in a 3tb external drive would be faster [10:39] sahko: any other things beside this one? [10:40] lamah (ghost@78.90.113.108) left ##slackware. [10:41] not in Slackware [10:41] ohh.. [10:41] but there is conky [10:41] Azeotrope: right, you can't logically "combine" filesystems (at least without major changes), but lvm knows how to make multiple devices (partitions) act as (be presented as) one for a filesystem or whatever you want to put it on it (doesn't strictly have to be a filesystem) [10:41] i think thats what you're looking for [10:41] how do i enable this everytime i log in? [10:41] its in SBo [10:41] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:41] rob0: wouldn't it also come in handy for something like grouping hard drives? I used lvm on my Eee 901 to combine the SSDs to one logical drive [10:42] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:42] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:42] depends on how you start X and what you are using. with window managers you can do it from .xinitrc [10:42] ah nevermind I think trhodes just confirmed it fr me [10:42] :-) [10:43] well im using XFCE [10:43] blacklinux, on SBo there are tons of xfce plugins. search for xfce. [10:43] what tool should i use to kill all the internet traffic, inbound and outbound, except for a singe app? [10:43] i downloaded the conky thing [10:43] ie VirtualBox [10:43] ClaudioM, of course, but there you're risking your data too. If either physical device dies, your FS is trashed. [10:43] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:44] granted, but I have a backup of my home directory [10:44] I needed the extra space from combining the two [10:44] Azeotrope: a firewall perhaps ? [10:44] "Virtualbox" is going to create traffic that is not just from one single "app" [10:44] antiwire: i was affraid of that [10:45] yeah, I might consider doing the same thing on my eee900, but the second device is a SD card. [10:45] You'll need to treat the traffic from the virtual machine just like any other real machine. [10:45] rob0: gotcha [10:45] blacklinux: well xfce has this somewhere in system settings. you can add a custom startup command [10:45] ahh [10:45] i worry about xfce... [10:45] right now I just use the SD via symlinks [10:45] allend (~allend@CPE-121-214-158-146.lnse3.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:46] how to activate this conky [10:46] did you *install* conky? [10:46] daniel (~daniel@81-229-77-134-no64.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:46] i installed it already [10:46] using sbopkg [10:46] add a custom startup command [10:46] read the man page and howtos [10:47] well i want to see the conky interface [10:47] read the conky man page and howtos* [10:47] how should i run it? [10:47] $NAMEOFEXECUTABLE [10:47] Setting->Sessions&Startup [10:47] nian: Yes, that works. [10:48] sinuhe, Alright, trying a fresh install without the /slackware one though, gonna see how that works. [10:49] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:49] nian: Before doing a fresh install, you might make sure you know what drives you have, so you know what you're installing to. [10:49] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Client Quit [10:50] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:51] sinuhe, I have a 4gb SSD and 160gb, it's a s10e lenovo netbook, the boot partition is on the SSD and root is on the 160gb one, I'm looking at cfdisk now. [10:53] nian: And the dmesg output? [10:54] And at dmesg | grep sd, all it says for sda us Attached SCSI removable disk, sdb is the 65 mb one, the installer, sdc is the ssd and sdd is the 160gb one. I plugged in the /slackware one after booting into the installer so that's now sde. [10:54] is* [10:55] nian: Go to pastebin.com and give me a URL so I can look at the output, instead of having to interpret what you're saying. [10:56] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [10:57] have you folks noticed that some devs are now specifically providing slackware packages? [10:57] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:57] like who? [10:57] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Client Quit [10:58] rottlog provides a Slackware package. [10:59] where? [10:59] sahko, someone mentioned eagle mode recently. they provide a slack .tgz [10:59] kvirc is now providing a slackware .txz as well for version 4.0 [10:59] Let me qualify that. rottlog provides a build script to generate a Slackware package. [11:00] this is a good sign :) [11:00] do they specify the Slackware version the package is intended for? [11:00] Lots of them do. ioquake3 goes one step further and provides a SlackBuild. [11:00] even if you prefer to build stuff from source, the fact that devs package for slackware is a good sign, imho [11:00] sahko: I built against 13.0. I haven't tested, yet, against 13.1. [11:00] cause if they dont, you might see the same package there in two years from now. and someone might expect it to work [11:01] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:01] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:01] _misfit_ (~phuk@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:01] for example here: http://www.krusader.org/downloads.php [11:01] rottlog's a bit of an anomaly in that the dev actually developed it for his slackware system :) [11:02] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:02] mancha: Stefano and myself, yes. We're anomolies. [11:02] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Hi [11:02] Low [11:02] sinuhe you also heloped code rottlog [11:02] *helped [11:03] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:03] sirslack1r (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:03] sinuhe, http://pastebin.com/ViarhuG9 [11:03] That's the entire dmesg, just in case. [11:04] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:04] mancha: I did the 13.0 update for the slackware build script. [11:04] mancha: But yes, Stefano is in the original author. [11:04] s/in // [11:04] what do you mean original author? i thought he was the only author [11:05] I've been the maintainer for a year or two now. He hasn't coded anything in 5 or more years. [11:05] mancha: see the savannah link. sinuhe is up there too [11:05] He only recently rejoined the project. [11:05] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:06] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] in fact hes listed as the admin there [11:06] sahko: I'm willing to accept "helped"; my contributions aren't significant comparatively. [11:06] sinuhe ah neat. didn't realize you contribured to the codebase. [11:07] sometimes they dont need to.. [11:07] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:07] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:08] sirslack1r (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:08] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] I've done the last 4 or so releases, cleared out the bugs listings, updated the slackware build script for 13.0, and added an RPM spec file. So, not significant, but enough to count as a contributor (even with the maintainer title: that's more because of long history with GNU than anything). [11:09] blacklinux (~blacklinu@121.54.29.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:09] Action: sinuhe steps down from defending himself. :) [11:09] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:09] sinuhe: i noticed in your skills, that you grade your software licensing skills as master. can i ask a related question? [11:10] sahko: Sure. [11:10] Action: sinuhe braces himself. [11:10] Action: sinuhe is not sure he counts as master anymore [11:10] ..in a couple of mins. brb [11:11] it will be easy, i promise [11:11] (The last I worked on was an addition to GPLv3. It was more arguing with rms than anything.) [11:11] what do you think of google's recent license on vp8? [11:12] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:12] mancha: I carry the party line. :) It looks good, but patents could cause problems. [11:12] my read is it pretty much a bsd-ish license with the added stipulation "if you bring suit against us you waive your license" [11:13] I wonder what Ian Hickson will think of it, which is where my biggest interest is. [11:14] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.175.97) joined ##slackware. [11:15] nader (~nader@85.133.204.230) joined ##slackware. [11:16] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:17] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:17] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [11:20] sinuhe: according to the gpl, is there any restriction of how much can someone modify a piece of software to be able to destribute it under it with the same name? eg. i take the linux kernel and i modify it to work exactly like the windows kernel. can i still call it linux? [11:21] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:21] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] nian: How about that. sda really is an internal SCSI removable disk (Zip?). sdb is the 65 MB disk. sdc is a 4 GB disk (ATA). sdd is your 160GB. sde is an 80GB. [11:21] nian: I meant that sdb is the USB, i.e. how about that. [11:22] Strange that it is showing up that way. [11:22] the modification is licensed under the gpl, same as the original software [11:22] is that explained somewhere? [11:24] sahko: As far as copyright is concerned there is no restriction. GPLv3 has a requirement for distinguishing modified versions from the original, but I don't think there's a naming requirement, i.e. you can still call it Linux, as you are clear that you branch it (Linux is GPL2, anyway). [11:24] sahko: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html has all the published details and FAQ, etc. You can also email gnu@gnu.org, or Brett directly. [11:25] Rephrase: ...as long as you are clear that you branch it, i.e. modified it... [11:25] s/branch/branched/ [11:25] Sigh [11:26] sinuhe, Yeah, just gonna try the reinstall, then I'll mess with lilo conf, I'll try and make it boot with the installer still plugged in, see if it works. [11:26] I have set utf-8 for console... but it doesn't decode pages in lynx or other... [11:27] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] xterm and uxterm are same result [11:29] nian: As long as you install with removable media changing device names, you will most likely continue to have problems. [11:29] sinuhe, What other option do I have though. [11:29] It's a netbook, I mean. [11:29] Actually. [11:29] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:29] I could just write the installer onto a partition. [11:29] nian: By netbook, you mean you don't have an optical drive? [11:29] Yeah. [11:29] nian: That's seems a reasonable thing to do, as long as it's bootable. [11:30] nian: i've found that unetbootin with the iso image of slack (32 bit) makes a good install chip [11:31] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.196) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:31] nian: A network install is probably what I would try and set up. AlienBob has some great info on his page about that. [11:31] PXE boot the sucker and be done with it. :) [11:32] i've installed slack to netbooks before [11:32] nian: do you have an rsynced Slackware source tree on a hd? [11:32] nyRednek: I wasn't challenging your suggestion. [11:32] eg. using alienBOBs rsync current script etc? [11:32] hmmm, i wonder what it would take to make the Slackware install disk a PXE server? [11:32] sinuhe, i'd recommend not doing a net install if you can avoid it [11:32] bagira: Oh? [11:32] sinuhe: i didn't say you were, but i was saying that this is an easy way to do it quickly [11:33] sinuhe, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/ I'm guessing this is it? sahko, Nope. [11:33] ok [11:33] nyRednek: I think easy is what nian needs. A PXE server is complex if you don't know how to set it up. [11:33] sinuhe: yeah, net installs can, on occasion, fsck up due to loss of connection to ftp server [11:33] nyRednek: agreed, unetbootin is quick and easy for netbooks (though i haven't used it for slack lately) [11:33] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.175.97) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:33] nyRednek: I'm more inclined to PXE from NFS. [11:34] jumperboy: it's really easy [11:34] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:34] sinuhe: i wasn't suggesting a pxe install [11:34] unetbootin is for ubuntu imo [11:34] nice thing about unetbootin is you don't need to burn media [11:34] theres better tools to do the job [11:34] sahko: no, it means usb net boot [11:34] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:35] i didnt say otherwise [11:35] sahko: but it will put *any* iso in as an isolinux usb boot chip [11:35] Hah, alright, so, lilo prompt is up, let's see if it loads. [11:35] If you count the classes I teach, I've done thousands of PXE installs, and they rarely fail, and when they do it's obvious why. [11:35] sahko: i think i has slack 13.0 as a designated choice [11:35] s/i has/it has/ [11:35] sirslack1r (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:35] sirslack1r (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:35] nyRednek: isohybrid [11:35] but you can also plug the slack 13.1 iso into it [11:36] And kernel panic, great. [11:36] sahko: actually, it just makes it a bootable fat volume [11:37] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:37] nian: A LILO prompt is an improvement. Now all you need to do is call the kernel (you're using the huge kernel?) correctly from LILO. [11:38] nyRednek: http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/Doc/isolinux#HYBRID_CD-ROM.2FHARD_DISK_MODE [11:39] nian: What specifically does the messages before the kernel panic indicate is the cause of failure? [11:39] s/does/do/ [11:39] sahko: ah, yeah, that's it...i misunderstood [11:39] syslinux can do what unetbootin does on its own [11:40] sahko: i pay less attention to the terms than i do the process and if the process works...not a pro, just a long-time slacker [11:40] sahko: unetbootin automates the process to set up syslinux for that purpose [11:40] sinuhe, Rebooted and trying with a cstom root line, I think it was about not being able to mount the root volume, hopefully this'll work, if not I'll give you the precise thing. [11:41] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [11:41] custom* [11:42] Heh, worked, I think I got it, gimme a sec. [11:42] nian: coolness [11:43] nian: An improvement. Now let's see what happens when you remove your removable media. [11:43] (If it fails at that point, this is where labels or UUIDs come in.) [11:43] sinuhe, So let's see, when I remove it would sda still stay sda, and sdc would be root? [11:44] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] In theory, the kernel detects device in bus priority, but it doesn't always happen that way perfectly (there are other factors). I would assume that sdc will become sda, once sda and sdb are removed, but that depends. [11:45] s/vice/vices/ [11:46] I don't think so. If you remove a device, existing ones are not renamed. [11:46] rob0: After a reboot? [11:46] however, on reboot, as always, the first SCSI drive would be sda [11:46] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:46] rob0: Right. That's what he's asking. Of course they don't change from a currently booted system. [11:47] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-243.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [11:47] oh, I misunderstood [11:47] how do you d/l a raw commit from github?!? [11:47] gtl_ (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [11:47] rob0: I've been working nian since yesterday to get his netbook installed. He's got several drives, and two removables that he's using for the install. [11:48] Oddly, the removables are showing up as sda and sdb. [11:48] and the builtin is sdc [11:48] git checkout [11:49] Forgive me for coming in so late but what was the big hangup with the netbook install? [11:49] and the problem is, how to configure lilo and fstab? [11:49] rob0: c-e [11:49] rob0: At this point, I believe so, but that wasn't the original issue. [11:49] fstab is easy. Use labels or UUIDs. [11:50] I think fstab is fine, had no problems with it so far. rob0 [11:50] lilo, IIRC, you have to trick it [11:50] thrice, thats not what i need [11:50] arfon: Primarily that nian wasn't in front of the computer, and has only been in front of twice since we've talked. I think the first problem was he wasn't sure where things got installed. [11:50] Ah [11:50] mancha, ? it does exactly as you asked [11:50] eddie_grey (~eddiegrey@187.23.102.214) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.94.234) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:50] clone the repo, and use checkout to specific the commit you want [11:50] Slack 13.1 installed onto my netbook smoother than butter on a hot frying pan... [11:51] i don't want to clone the repo [11:51] That USB boot/install img was WONDERFUL [11:51] arfon: He just completed a new install, so we're starting over outside of knowing the hardware he's working with. [11:51] mancha, do you know at all how git works? [11:51] (or, how intelligent questions are asked) [11:51] git isn't exactly mainstream thrice`. thats a developer tool. [11:52] what part of my question was hard for you to parse? [11:52] <--doesnt get git [11:52] lol [11:52] github has an online viewing function, i want to dl a raw commit or display a raw commit on the website. [11:52] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.89.170) joined ##slackware. [11:52] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:52] i can try to rephrase in other words if that is still not understandable. [11:52] Alright, I think I got it, afk for a few minutes while I try and get this working. [11:53] nian: You seem to contradict yourself there. You got it working, you didn't, or you aren't sure? [11:53] maybe i should ask how to clone a git repo in the hopes that i get my original question answered :) [11:53] lol [11:54] mancha, get some DNA and a good ovum... [11:55] fibroblast [11:55] mancha, first, 'd/l' is a crappy term, so it needed to be guessed at. second, nowhere did you mention you were incapable of cloning [11:55] Fibroblast to you too Raela [11:55] thrice, take your meds. [11:55] anyone with a brain know how to do what i asked? [11:56] Take the BLUE one, the red one is scary [11:57] I'm good with git, but haven't ever worked with github, so I'll stay out of this one. [11:57] mancha, the only way I know of is to clone, use 'checkout', and then git format-patch [11:58] shyko_ (~shyko@187.39.212.216) joined ##slackware. [11:59] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:59] between my main account and my joint account, in the past 7 years i have withdrawn(including withdrawl charges) 14,582 GBP [11:59] sinhue, it lets me raw-view the file @ a commit, but not raw view the diff [12:00] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:00] i much prefer gitweb, to be honest... [12:01] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:01] v4nelle (~van@79.107.208.218) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Is there a Linux tool to send pop-up messages to winderz users? [12:02] just view the raw and copy/paste, if you only need a patch [12:03] mancha: 'raw-view' means you can download a binary file that was committed as a git patch, presumably through a web interface? [12:03] gtl_ (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:03] mancha: #github? [12:03] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:04] sinhue, the only thing it'll let me view raw is the file post a certain commit [12:04] mancha, the commit just shows the differences between revisions. if you want to recreate it, you need to also do that locally (using the commit + format-patch), or use the web-interface to copy and paste it to a patch (unless github allows you to download it as text). [12:04] so i would have to dl the file and diff it to mine to get the commit [12:05] mancha: sahko has a point if github is a service you are using, not a service you're providing with Slackware. [12:05] thrice please stop, you have yet to answer what i've asked yet i did so in plain english [12:05] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-kcligbbzevxucnhw) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:05] how fucking old are? and why do you think you can be so cocky? [12:05] w4lk (~w4lk@cpe-066-026-123-133.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:05] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-jqvnqtfuplaexfjj) joined ##slackware. [12:05] must be summer vacation [12:05] i think you could do that at some point. it doesnt seem to work now though [12:06] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:06] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:06] sinuhe: i said that cause he might get a more useful answer, not because its offtopic [12:06] cocky? this from someoen who just said: mancha, do you know at all how git works? (or, how intelligent questions are asked) [12:06] Fleurety (~fleurety@93.186.164.51) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:07] thrice i am not sure what your issue is today but you're being both quite obtuse in your ability to parse questions and quite aggressive in how you answer them... [12:07] sahko: Either way. :) I'm curious enough about github to continue. [12:07] mancha mancha mancha mancha mancha [12:08] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-53-165.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:08] Fleurety (~fleurety@93.186.164.51) joined ##slackware. [12:08] sinuhe, Hell yes, it works, straight from the lilo menu, sdc is root for some reason, sda is just being used for something, sdb is boot, so I fixed that in lilo.conf, then it gave me a filesystem check, but that was just fstab using the old sdxy things, fixed that and it works now. [12:08] not even copy-paste on the rendered diff works well because it adds in the line numbers all kinds of linefeed nonsense :( [12:09] sinuhe, Thanks a bunch, and to everyone else who helped out, me and my netbook are grateful. [12:09] mancha, if you click 'raw', it will remove them [12:10] nian success? [12:10] tripFantastic Great success. [12:10] the only way to re-create what you see online is by checking out the branch and doing the diff yourself for the commits [12:10] i think thrice was dropped as a child! :) [12:10] k [12:10] nian: Glad you got it going, though I still think you're a bit confused what you've installed where. [12:10] nian read a stream of bits on topic [12:10] :) [12:10] right then; i'll leave [12:11] sahko so you could do this and they removed the feature? that is unfortunate, why would they? [12:11] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:11] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:12] sinuhe, I think I'm good, I mean, sdb1 is boot, sdc1 is / sdc2 is my home, and some other stuff, but I think that's it, no idea why sda is being used though. [12:12] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:12] nian: Go back to your dmesg and find out what it is. [12:12] nian, do you have a card reader that could be being seen as sda? [12:13] arfon: That would match the removable SCSI device his previous pastebin showed. [12:13] mancha: not sure you could. try #github. iirc there is a channel like that [12:13] Ah [12:13] Actually yeah, it says Attached SCSI removable devce. [12:13] arfon: Though it is worth asking it directly. :) [12:13] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] The netbook comes with one, guess that's it then? [12:14] redbox (~derxob@unaffiliated/derxob) joined ##slackware. [12:14] (I'm just jealous, my card reader chipset doesn't have Linux support :( [12:14] nian: I think you should take the advice to label your filesystems, or reference them using UUIDs, so you're not caught by surprise when the devices do a switch-a-roo during boot. [12:14] arfon: Mine works, too. :P [12:15] bastard! [12:15] :) [12:15] Stupid EN Technology [12:15] christian (christian@gssn-4d007ed4.pool.mediaWays.net) left ##slackware. [12:15] yeah, i'll try that. thanks. [12:16] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:16] sinuhe, Yeah, might as well, I'll look into it, gonna get my connection working first, which should be interesting since my wireless card has a broadcom chipset and b43 only half worked on my prior install. [12:17] ARG! I went through B43 hell last night with some guy's Ubuntu [12:17] is it the 4311? [12:17] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Nah, 4312. [12:17] arfon [12:18] Same, the trick last night was to install the b43-kernel-???? ubuntu package [12:18] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:18] you MAY need to also have the firmware and the b43-fwcutter [12:18] Thing was, on my last install it gave me a waiting for carrier message and just stopped there. [12:19] wl worked fine though. [12:19] So I might just use that if this doesn't work. [12:19] Yeah... the b43 drivers only partially work without the other stuff [12:19] <---HATES Broadcom [12:19] allend (~allend@CPE-121-214-158-146.lnse3.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:20] my netbook has Atheros :) [12:20] Just fyi, if you give up on the b43 drivers, the Linuxant driver wrapper works like a charm. [12:20] arfon, Alright, thanks, also rob0, which netbook? [12:21] a cheap Linux-based eee900 [12:22] I've bought Atheros PCI cards too. My access point is ath5k+hostapd. [12:25] x-ip (~x-ip@host101.200-82-110.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:26] Mine's Atheros AR8132 [12:26] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:28] jlarrew (~WallRat00@75.133.29.111) joined ##slackware. [12:28] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [12:29] x-ip (~x-ip@host101.200-82-110.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:29] jlarrew (~WallRat00@75.133.29.111) left irc: Client Quit [12:31] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:32] sorry, the ubuntu packages needed by the 4311/12/13 was: bcmwl-kernel-source [12:32] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [12:33] eddie_grey (~eddiegrey@187.23.102.214) left irc: Quit: work [12:34] arfon, It's fine, thanks, getting the carrier error right now. [12:35] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:35] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Has anyone here used Zinc IM? [12:36] euzao (euzao@200-162-204-22.static-corp.ajato.com.br) left irc: [12:36] Is it possible to get the 64bit flash-player-plugin to work? [12:36] Worked for me... [12:37] I just installed from slackbuilds and tried it out on youtube.com and it just says it's crashed. [12:37] terry_: do you have an amd cpu? [12:37] the only released version of the plugin has some security issues [12:37] terry_: cat /proc/cpuinfo.. which family is it? [12:38] Actually, it says that Adobe Flash plugin has crashed [12:38] raela: Yes amd [12:38] What I did was, grabbed the 64bit flash package from Adobe... opened it up and pulled out the .so file and dropped it into my Firefox plugin dir. Worked on both Slamd64 and Slackware64 13.0 for me [12:38] AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+ [12:39] terry_: no, family not processor [12:39] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/flash-crashes-firefox-on-x86_64/ [12:39] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:39] hannah_murray_ (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. [12:39] check that [12:40] pu family : 15 [12:40] cpu family : 15 [12:40] Is that a problem? [12:40] read the link I posted and try that. it doesn't hurt to try [12:41] it's an issue with certain family 15 cpus [12:41] afk [12:41] noted [12:42] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:47] raela: That worked. Thanks. [12:50] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. 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[13:34] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [13:35] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [13:36] klein_ (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:37] Azeotrope (JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left ##slackware. [13:37] knnk_ (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:39] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:44] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:46] lmsensors comes with the full slackware 13.1 install [13:46] i run sensors-detect [13:46] but it did not create a /etc/rc.d/rc.lmsensors file [13:46] Do you want to generate /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors? (yes/NO): YES [13:46] Copy prog/init/lm_sensors.init to /etc/init.d/lm_sensors [13:47] i cannot locate lm_sensors.init anywhere [13:47] HappyNwb (~experimen@ti0125a380-1351.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:47] could this be the work of a virus or something worse? [13:48] klein_ (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) joined ##slackware. [13:49] init.d? [13:49] thats what sensors-detect uses, of course its wrong [13:49] its ok anyway [13:50] i loaded the modules, and it works! :D [13:50] temp1: +50.0 C (low = +127.0 C, high = +127.0 C) sensor = thermistor [13:50] temp2: +25.0 C (low = +127.0 C, high = +127.0 C) sensor = thermistor [13:50] temp3: +29.0 C (low = +127.0 C, high = +127.0 C) sensor = thermistor [13:50] :D [13:50] great. but use a pastebin [13:51] yep sorry! [13:52] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [13:54] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:56] A virus? [13:56] fresh off the windows boat? [13:56] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:56] HappyNwb (~experimen@ti0125a380-0419.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [13:57] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. 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[14:02] raela, hmm well do you often see white text on black instead of windows desktop? [14:02] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:02] does your PC make you type stuff? [14:03] dive: omfg I see that all of the time [14:03] virus. [14:03] ¿ [14:03] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:04] how do I fix it? [14:04] take a heavy object and hit your monitor with it [14:04] you know, that might improve the one computer [14:04] disconnect the internet to be safe. [14:04] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:04] raela: Thats why I said it ;) [14:05] dive: conspiracy! you're just trying to pass me in OT! [14:05] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:05] :> [14:07] cpunches (~cpunches@www.melug.org) joined ##slackware. [14:08] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. 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[14:43] Nick change: nachox__ -> nachox [14:46] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:46] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:46] Nick change: klein_ -> klein [14:46] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:54] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. [14:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:01] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Is there some sort of problem with Cups on a 64bit system? [15:01] gapan (~gapan@79.103.156.90.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:02] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:03] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:03] I've tried to set up a Brother_HL-5170DN_series numerous times to no avail. When I pint a test page, I get a page with just about as much black ink as you could possibly dump on one sheet, really sucking the life out of it's toner .... [15:03] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.234) joined ##slackware. [15:03] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-53-165.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:03] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:04] terry_: you need the new patched ghostscript [15:04] Driver:Brother HL-5170DN - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.4 (grayscale, 2-sided printing) [15:05] slysir: Oh, where can I find it? [15:05] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [15:05] that just came out in current [15:05] slysir: TNX will look for it. [15:06] terry_: [15:06] not necessarily a slack question, but, I'm looking into some sort of external backup for files.. thinking just a 1TB external harddrive in order to have the files stored elsewhere than just on the one computer. any recommendations on if this is good / use something else / etc? [15:06] http://dev.slackware.it/changelogs/view.php?q=current/1277631793 [15:07] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:07] ghostscript-8.71-x86_64-3.txz [15:07] ? [15:07] Raela: got get a 1TB hard drive and a $40 usb case... That's what I do, works great [15:07] terry_: yes [15:08] asarch (~asarch@189.188.149.219) joined ##slackware. [15:08] raela: i use a USB3 dock [15:08] http://dev.slackware.it/changelogs/view.php?q=current/1277631793 Says: "There's no entry for the selected timestamp." [15:09] slysir: not quite sure if the machine supports usb3 [15:10] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.131.60) joined ##slackware. [15:10] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [15:11] raela: yes need latest m/b or pcie card [15:11] slysir: Should I also get ghostscript-fonts-std-8.11-noarch-1.txz ? [15:11] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: tltstc [15:11] terry_: if you dont have the fonts..yes [15:11] Let's see, I already have ghostscript-fonts-std-8.11-noarch-1 Looks like same package... [15:12] terry_: get that stuff from any mirror with slackware64-current [15:12] slysir: Shoud I first uninstall ghostscript-8.71-x86_64-2 (before installing ghostscript-8.71-x86_64-3.txz )? [15:13] or do upgradepkg ? [15:13] terry that or upgradepkg or reinstallpkg [15:14] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-53-165.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:14] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CAE0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:15] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.131.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:15] upgradepkg --reinstall ghostscript-8.71-x86_64-3.txz or upgradepkg --install-new ghostscript-8.71-x86_64-3.txz or just upgragepkg ghostscript-8.71-x86_64-3.txz [15:16] just doing upgradepkg [15:16] I suppose I need to restart cups...? [15:17] terry_: it wioll tell what works [15:18] Ok that did it. Thanks a lot. [15:18] terry_: save the ink [15:18] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [15:19] haha yea, I must have printed about 10 pages of mostly black. [15:19] But I got it now. Thanks a lot. [15:19] terry_: its an evil plot [15:19] by the ink manufacturers [15:23] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.131.60) joined ##slackware. [15:25] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [15:25] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:27] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [15:27] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.3.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Hi! Am I missing something, or is there no longer emacs-nox package in 13.1? Or am I looking in the wrong place? [15:29] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:36] nevermind, it's all one package now [15:39] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:40] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [15:41] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[16:07] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226039 :( [16:08] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-xluznrqmgjqgzoqa) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:09] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-53-165.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:09] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:12] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-30-228.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:12] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Excess Flood [16:13] vect (brains@ca7-losangeles-1911.dsl.wiredcom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:13] nian (~jack@148-170.dsl.iskon.hr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:13] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:14] klein (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:15] I'm not using KDE, sorry [16:15] nirub (~nirub@dyndsl-085-016-097-103.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Ok, no problem. [16:20] Hm, gonna try alienbob's 4.4.4 packages, I guess. [16:21] <--uses XFCE [16:23] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-pvfnaxletzosgeyh) joined ##slackware. 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[17:52] neuro_sys (~neuro@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:56] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Night guys [17:58] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434942.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] esata should hotplug right ? [18:04] mmlj4 (~jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:07] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [18:08] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.3.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Is there any kind of searchable database to figure out which package provides a certain file? [18:09] yeah, /var/log/packages/ [18:09] Ah, good to know. What about packages I don't have installed? [18:09] MANIFEST.bz2 as well [18:09] ah! [18:09] jnylin (~jnylin@c-7471e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:10] That ought to do it. Thanks :) [18:13] Gatto (~Romeo~@host128-65-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:13] hello * [18:13] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:14] hello ? [18:14] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [18:16] trogstealth (not@dynamic-adsl-94-38-124-246.clienti.tiscali.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:17] yeah, i say hello for the alternative of "hai" :°D [18:17] i write ^^ [18:18] Are there any current tutorials/howtos on installing and configuring Xorg in Slackware? [18:18] I can't seem to find anything [18:19] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:19] xorg? is very simple :°D download package ad install it with installpkg [18:20] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Gatto: the ? was a reply to the * [18:20] sh0ne (~sh0ne@178.223.26.31) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Gatto: The problem is that xorg-server package doesn't really contain everything that's required to actually run X [18:21] rirombo: what are you missing? [18:21] xorg-server contains the most critial part to running X, actually [18:23] zaltekk: Xorg.conf to start with, which I can't even find in MANIFEST [18:23] rirombo, it's not installed by default, since it's not needed by default [18:23] rirombo: you don't need one [18:23] rirombo: but you could have xorg generate it if you really want one [18:24] there is an /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa by default, which you can merge over + update if you wish. but, try without first, unless you are a bad linux user and require closed-source drivers [18:24] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.3.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:24] =/ [18:25] _misfit_ (~phuk@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:25] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.3.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] If anyone said anything to me, please repeat it. My screen crashed. [18:26] rirombo: you don't need an xorg.conf [18:26] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:27] unless you want to use closed source craap [18:27] Oh? Wow, things sure change in a few years' time.. [18:27] johndee (~id@93-81-141-26.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:27] biker (~biker@189.169.133.50) joined ##slackware. [18:31] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:32] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:50] biker (~biker@189.169.133.50) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [18:50] Or do those not apply to xorg? [18:51] asarch (~asarch@189.188.149.219) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:52] if you dont know what to install, go with a full install [18:53] rirombo: have you not tried to just start x? [18:53] I did, it says "no screens found" and does nothing [18:54] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:56] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.98.12) joined ##slackware. [18:58] rirombo: Type the runlevel command. What does it print? [18:58] N 3 [18:59] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:00] rirombo: What system/video card are you using? [19:01] Tadgy (~tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) joined ##slackware. [19:01] This is a Dell netbook, which probably has some sort of built-in Intel videochip [19:01] sitwon (~adam@pool-71-246-200-118.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:02] I suppose it might be good to figure out what it is [19:02] Ah, Intel GMA 950 [19:03] Huh. That should be supported by the default intel driver. Did you install all of Xorg for Slackware, or only part of it? [19:04] sitwon (~adam@pool-71-246-200-118.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] sinuhe: I did not install the inter /x/ series, if that's what you mean. Should I? [19:04] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6AC9F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [19:05] rirombo: xf86-video-intel [19:05] rirombo: However, if you missed that, there may be other components that are missing. [19:06] Okay, I'm now getting a different error message, so that's progress :) [19:06] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:06] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:06] I ought to just install everything and then remove extra packages later. Thanks :) [19:07] rirombo: Just use pkgtool, and install everything from the x/ directory. [19:07] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:07] rirombo: an everything install will also avoid future problems, if you are willing. [19:07] goj (~goj@p5488FAE4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:08] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [19:09] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:09] *nods* That would certainly be easier. [19:14] Do people normally install whole series with all the extraenous stuff? [19:15] rirombo: i always do a full install [19:15] Interesting [19:15] it's a lot easier to just already have everything i'd want [19:15] rather than to have to pick and choose between every package [19:16] kdei is hte only thing i leave out [19:16] Certainly, it just seems so... unclean to have all that gnome and kde and tape drive interfaces and seven editors, etc., etc., if I would never use them [19:16] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:18] you won't have gnome [19:18] you could easily skip kde [19:19] i don't think editors and things like that are going to take up enough space for you to even notice they are there [19:20] rirombo: So when you notice something you're not going to use, remove it, after carefully checking to make sure it is not the dependency of another package. [19:22] rirombo: KDE can be left off safely as a package group. [19:23] I guess I just need to get used to a different paradigm [19:23] Instead of only installing packages I need, install everything and then remove packages I don't need. [19:24] rirombo: it is hard to do otherwise if you don't know what you need [19:24] It's rather odd to me, but "When in Rome..." :D [19:25] zaltekk: *nods* Definitely. Other Linux/*BSD package systems make it easier with dependency checking, but here it would be way too much memorization :D [19:25] rirombo: The package system does not include dependency checking. Unless you know precisely what you need, don't cherry pick. The paradigm with Slackware hasn't changed; it's many other distributions that have changed their paradigm. Something that's actually unusual in the mainstream Unix world. [19:26] I can see that. I can't quite picture AIX with a dependency-checking, central-repository package tool :D [19:27] v4nelle (~van@79.107.208.218) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:27] Action: sinuhe personally wishes for a minimalistic approach with package grouped addons. [19:27] Of course, there's Zip slack if you want to start small. [19:27] Althought so far I really do like the simplicity of Slack packages. I created a package in five minutes and now can remove it or reinstall it easily :) [19:27] sinuhe: not anymore.. [19:27] sahko? [19:27] Slackware has changed a bit too:) [19:27] theres no zipslack [19:27] Bummer. [19:28] Huh. How about that. When did ZipSlack disappear? [19:28] didn't zipslack lead to zenwalk or something? [19:28] at least 12.0 [19:29] zaltekk: thats minislack. [19:29] oh [19:29] I remember when Zip Slack first came out. [19:29] Action: sinuhe feels old [19:30] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:37] i never liked manually setting up video card and monitor settings [19:38] I don't think anyone did. Like lpd, we just put up with it (damn .seq files!). [19:38] It's automatic now? [19:39] rirombo: X or lpd? (Yes to either, thanks to Xorg and CUPS) [19:40] I remember... yada yada... [19:40] X :) I thankfully only had to mess with lpd once or twice. [19:40] Sufficed to say, i've been using Slack for longer than most :) [19:40] 1995 I started with it - when it was on Walnut Creek CDROM [19:41] I still even have the box sets. [19:41] That's when I started: the switch from floppies to a CD. [19:41] Walnut Creek CDROM.. sounds so very familiar [19:41] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] I think I got debian from them [19:41] The current DVD sets are certainly not as nice as the Walnut Creek sets. [19:42] could be better indeed [19:42] sinuhe: I always find it amusing how people in here think themselves so l33t because they've been using slack for like 5 years... :) [19:42] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:44] Tadgy: Heh. Nothing wrong with reminiscing though. I was just bummed realizing that ZipSlack is gone. [19:45] Yeah, but it's not really relevant these days - it was designed for the Zip Disk days of 100Mb r/w media. I doubt you'd find many people these days with a Zip drive :) [19:46] you didn't see those too often even when they weren't old [19:46] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.3.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:47] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:47] I had one at the time - was very handy for downloading stuff on the Uni systems and taking it back to a PC in your diggs. 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[19:54] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:54] though I do hear that reiserfs kills... [19:54] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:55] that's the problem, stories all over the place [19:55] snL20: To be honest, i've never trused anything but the ext* filesystems. But people seem to rave about jfs and zfs... [19:55] Tadgy: xfs ? [19:55] some say reiser gave them problems too [19:55] apparently atm consensus is xfs is best [19:56] No, zfs (not provided in Slack IIRC), but people seem to like it. [19:56] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.217) joined ##slackware. [19:56] lol [19:56] Tadgy: I think I'll use bfs [19:56] There will never be a consensus about filesystems. [19:56] reiser has major issues - it may cause you to murder and dismember your significant other. [19:56] as far as you can have agreement among geeks [19:56] Yeah [19:57] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:57] i don't think zfs is really a choice for linux users [19:57] bfs is the stuff [19:58] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.3.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:58] i like reiserfs, its a centralized simple filesystem [19:58] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:59] mkfs.minix ? [19:59] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.3.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] =D [19:59] adrien has done some measurements of xfs.. it's pretty fast or something [19:59] I run jfs [20:00] mkfs.bfs - make an SCO bfs filesystem [20:00] vect (brains@ca7-losangeles-1911.dsl.wiredcom.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:02] goj (~goj@p4FE6AC9F.dip.t-dialin.net) got netsplit. 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[20:23] leetch (~barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:24] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-235-253.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:24] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [20:25] does anyone know the name of the analog clock screensaver? seriously I scrolled through every one (full install) and found none [20:27] leetch (barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware. [20:29] stlolman (~Your@granny.slept.with.lenin.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:29] hey guys [20:29] Delahunt: Errr, xclock? [20:30] demonlor (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) joined ##slackware. [20:31] screen saver [20:31] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:31] xcock hehe [20:31] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: Hello. I am interested in various things, which include: Finding out your real life info(s), prank calling you every day, stealing your IRC nickname(s), and finding flaws in your website (i.e. loading popups, etc). [20:31] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [20:32] erm? [20:32] hello, bikcmp [20:32] do you use slackware? [20:33] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:33] phrag Alan_Hicks alienBOB [20:33] livinded (~livinded@pool-173-55-27-237.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] is there a way to do limiting, like with pam, on slackware without having to pamify it? [20:34] Just installed slackware on a router [20:34] what's the name of that script that grabs tube vids with wget? [20:35] limiting what? [20:35] tripFantastic: youtube-dl [20:35] clive used to work, tripFantastic [20:35] ty [20:35] cpu time, memory, etc. [20:35] ty [20:35] BP{k}_ (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [20:35] trying to stop people from being able to forkbomb and DoS the machine [20:35] livinded: try ulimit [20:35] heh, well, if you have untrusted users, get rid of them [20:35] trhodes are you still using clive? [20:35] rob0: I'm running a wargame [20:35] tripFantastic: it broke a little while back [20:35] don't really have that option [20:36] o [20:36] tripFantastic: so, no :/ [20:36] demonlor (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:36] tripFantastic: it might have been updated; i haven't checked [20:36] stlolman: I tried setting a ulimit value in login.defs but it didn't allow me to specify specific flags with ulimit, only an overall value [20:36] livinded: wargame? I am sorry, but I dont think you have enough skills to run a wargame if youask such questions [20:36] ignoring ALL from livinded [20:37] stlolman: sorry I don't know enough about ulimit [20:38] livinded, what are you trying to do? stop a forkbomb? should be a simple as "echo ulimit -u 100 >> /etc/profile" [20:38] well youtube-dl (pycode) is useless for searching. [20:38] clive is .pl, but there are missing deps apparely [20:38] I'm trying to stop forkbombs and just in general make sure users aren't using more cpu power than they realistically need [20:38] livinded see umlimite; set in etc/profile [20:38] ulimit [20:38] or forcing the machines to start thrashing [20:39] WAIT! butters has an FS ? [20:39] who? [20:39] what's the difference between the ulimit value in login.defs and setting the values in /etc/profile? [20:39] none i think [20:39] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:39] just when it's done [20:39] timing [20:39] Xorzhuun (753bbb79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.59.187.121) joined ##slackware. [20:39] login is earlier [20:40] is setting it in profile going to only change the soft limit or the hard as well? [20:40] i'd only forgot about login.defs [20:40] thats all [20:40] NoodleSmm (753bbb79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.59.187.121) joined ##slackware. [20:40] see a manpage [20:40] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.98.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:40] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:40] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: I just saw a preview for "Renovate MY HOUSE!", and some uppity female negro saw her new house for the first time and was shouting "THANK YOU JESUS!!!". The only way I would say "THANK YOU JESUS" is if he got rid of all the people of a certain race if you catch my drift. :D [20:40] NoodleSmm take it to ##politics [20:41] NoodleSmm: that's a little bit harsh [20:41] and racist [20:41] they're not people [20:41] Xorzhuun [753bbb79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.59.187.121] has joined ##slackware [20:41] omg, my wife is black [20:41] same IP [20:41] does slackware condone this kind of chat? [20:41] NoodleSmm take it to ##politics [20:41] rworkman Stx [20:41] Alan_Hicks [20:41] vect for boredem [20:41] rob0: highlighted him already and nothing [20:41] might need to go to a freenode oper [20:42] no no no [20:42] alienBOB [20:42] tried as well, and phrag [20:42] somebody please kick NoodleSmm [20:42] tripFantastic: butters [20:42] oh yeah [20:42] ?ops [20:42] snL20 huh? [20:42] No, there are usually not ops here when these bots hit. [20:42] NoodleSmm /join ##politics [20:42] tripFantastic: come on everyone knows butters! [20:42] =D [20:42] Any ops? [20:42] it's a BOT tripFantastic [20:42] i'm not getting it [20:43] ok [20:43] btrfs [20:43] ? [20:43] rstbs? [20:43] tripFantastic: yeah :) [20:43] wait [20:43] gimme your location so i can slap you silly :) [20:43] tripFantastic: lol [20:43] you have undefined pronoun trouble [20:44] lrn2englsh [20:44] Sorry, I am new to this channel, but is it ussuall that channel is filled with racists and bots and staff dopesnt do anything??? [20:44] Xorzhuun (753bbb79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.59.187.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:44] stlolman if you crave, join ##politics [20:44] heh [20:44] it gets ruff in there [20:44] IMHO [20:44] i dont crave [20:44] i'm one of the few polite trolls [20:44] ok [20:44] NoodleSmm (753bbb79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.59.187.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:45] stlolman: what do you mean... =D [20:45] EntityReborn (~EntityReb@botters/allhailthegeek) joined ##slackware. [20:45] BisexPearlos (ae8feb6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.143.235.111) joined ##slackware. [20:45] ok so ther are no good tube scrappers? [20:45] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: Have you eaten ground beef recently? Ground beef is the result of everything outside of the cow's bones (including nerves) being ground up. Ground beef often contains prions (misfolded proteins) which due to mammalian protein metabolism act virally and will cause you to come down with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) where your brain slowly decays due to holes forming in y [20:45] just /ig BisexPearlos [20:45] phrags and alienBOB are active some. The other ops are not in here that much ... Alan_Hicks some during his work day I guess, rworkman hit or miss [20:45] snL20: i mean exactly what I have typed into my terminal emulator with irc client running inside [20:45] rubbcmpper (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) joined ##slackware. [20:45] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: All the guys in this IRC channel I hang out in are really profane and gross. They talk about child porn and act racist a lot of the time, and every night before I go to bed I pray for God's forgiveness, and for God to forgive them. Then I remember I'm wiccan. Blessed be! [20:45] just /ig BisexPearlos [20:45] I tell you make one comment about the n*ggers and everyone calls you a racist :D (naggers !) =D [20:46] just /ig rubbcmpper [20:46] you guys trade kiddie porn? [20:46] TabbyMessymgone (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) joined ##slackware. [20:46] dont do that [20:46] vect: :o [20:46] osm [20:46] isn't that illegal? [20:46] snL20: Well how about you do NOT make any racist comments you jerk [20:46] to those who brought it up last week: opera 10.60 is out of beta and released for linux [20:46] my father died in WW2 [20:47] damn youre old :) [20:47] stlolman: ? [20:47] now shut up please i dont wann heere any racism bullshit [20:47] stlolman /ignore nick [20:47] stlolman: what racists comment did I make ? [20:47] Nick change: BP{k}_ -> BP{k} [20:47] I tell you make one comment about the n*ggers and everyone calls you a racist :D (naggers !) =D [20:47] stlolman: it was obviously a JOKE, lighten up [20:47] snL20: i suggest you to read your text before you actually press enter [20:47] highly offensive [20:47] Nix_Llsa (ae8feb6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.143.235.111) joined ##slackware. [20:48] rob0: it's not sometihng you should joke about [20:48] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: Hey shithead. If I find any of your posts modded down I'll metamod in agreement with the moderator. You are a piece of shit asshole who deserves to be modded down. [20:48] stlolman: I did.. its not my fault you substitute the * for something other than intended [20:48] =P [20:48] this is how he justifies his hate, stlolman [20:48] uhh [20:48] this is really really sad [20:48] it's just you being overly sensitive [20:49] I mean doesnt anyone watch southpark =) [20:49] Guys, get someone to +r the channel [20:49] thatway only registered users can talk [20:49] EntityReborn: no ops here [20:49] EntityReborn: ops are afk and I tried contacting the on-call ircop [20:49] get some people with operator status in here please [20:49] we've been trying to get their attention [20:49] sec, I know a few staff [20:50] yes, please bring an ircop here [20:50] rubbcmpper (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:50] BisexPearlos (ae8feb6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.143.235.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:50] tell them to ban that bikcmp spammer [20:50] raela: hmmm... there isnt a single ircop around that's not idle ? [20:50] @gateway/web/freenode/ip. [20:50] snL20: I posted a message to #freenode and messaged the only one on the on-call list [20:50] raela: ok :| [20:50] rob0: that's just the webchat host I believe [20:50] TabbyMessymgone (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:51] stlolman, bikcmp isn't the spammer [20:51] EntityReborn: umm [20:51] yeah [20:51] he is [20:51] havent you read the text? [20:51] raela|test (43f9cf7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.249.207.123) joined ##slackware. [20:51] he's been spamming all over freenode [20:51] yeah see? can't go by that host [20:51] raela|test (43f9cf7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.249.207.123) left irc: Client Quit [20:51] 123.207.249.67.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer cpe-67-249-207-123.twcny.res.rr.com. [20:51] yes notice the raela ;) [20:51] that's where you are huh? [20:51] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) joined ##slackware. [20:52] stlolman, people try to frame bikcmp [20:52] thanks jayne [20:52] ??? [20:52] how [20:52] indeed. I don't even have it masked, rob0 [20:52] jayne: web gateway bots [20:52] Nix_Llsa (ae8feb6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.143.235.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:52] jayne: Nix_Llsa was one of them [20:52] stlolman, by saying his name, "msg from bikcmp, etc" [20:52] 5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17 another [20:52] Also, spammer is probably here, and killed that connection :P [20:52] how do you know that it's a conspiracy? [20:53] It doesn't take brains, stlolman [20:53] EntityReborn: You're part of the problem. Go find something productive to do, like counting blades of grass. [20:53] so you have no real arguments [20:53] i see [20:53] no use chatting to you then [20:53] If I were to spam, I wouldn't put my own name in there. Would you? [20:53] jayne raela tabbymessymgone rubbcmpper [20:53] That's exactly what spammers do [20:54] jayne bisexpearlos entutyreborn [20:54] EntityReborn: i work as a sysadmin [20:54] tripFantastic: er.. I just logged in to show you can't say it's all on the web gateway because that's a webchat host [20:54] and i set up [20:54] EntityReborn [20:54] mail filters [20:54] and i get a lot of spam to filter [20:54] i know more about spam then you do [20:54] o [20:54] skip EntityReborn [20:55] tripFantastic: raela is not one of the bots :) [20:55] nods [20:56] stlolman, I came here as a response to the spam. I aided (hopefully) in rousing a staffer to come here to see to the spam. If you want to split hairs over it, go ahead. It's not going to stop the spam. [20:56] are you sure! I thought I saw some wiring in her neck once =D [20:56] apparently the staffer scared off the spammer though [20:57] as a response to the spam? are you a staff? no [20:57] EntityReborn is probably the spammer [20:57] then what's the point [20:57] of discussion [20:57] vect, I just got here. Never been in this channel before. [20:57] vect: nah spammers are usually smarter [20:57] why would anyone "follow" spam attacks? [20:57] That said, apparently my help is unwanted. [20:57] EntityReborn: er how did you know to come in here? or were you in #freenode? [20:58] EntityReborn: thanks anyway [20:58] raela, I was in #freenode [20:58] rob0, your welcome. [20:58] EntityReborn (EntityReb@botters/allhailthegeek) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:00] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:01] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:01] Tadgy (tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) left ##slackware. 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You were giggling to yourself as you typed that post out, and are eagerly refreshing this thread in the hopes that someone will give you a zany quip in reply. Go on, you can laugh. It's okay. Just remember that you're the only one who thought that post was in any way entertaining. [21:16] christ.. not here too [21:16] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:16] rworkman: ping [21:16] alienBOB: ping [21:17] nixUr (dd821111@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.17.17) joined ##slackware. [21:17] Lazmwa_Llsa (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) joined ##slackware. [21:17] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: What the fuck does that have to do with anyhting. Do you have a dick in your ear or something. i dont want your fuckin apology, I want you to just log off, stop fuckin writing me period and then go to your mothers room, eat her out, beside the drawers, next to the trash cans, and then tell her I appreicate her shaving my balls b/c its really hard to do it myself. Until next time, [21:17] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: my girlfriend is so mad just because when she was sucking my cock i clubbed her with a high heel on the back of the head, grabbed a handful of hair, yanked her off and started pissing in her face she was choking really bad and then she vomited on my cock. she should understand that is what i am into. money ho's and clothes. How can I apologize? [21:17] habaneros (~habaneros@23.252.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:19] goj (~goj@p4FE6AC9F.dip.t-dialin.net) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] fidesratio (~fidesrati@bender.open-source.co.uk) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] moslery (~mosley@mjwensley.plus.com) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-21-94.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) got lost in the net-split. [21:19] oh, crap. [21:19] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:19] yeah its here too [21:19] whoever launched those should suffer from physical punishment. [21:19] Saul_Goodman (~dvjenning@unaffiliated/saul-goodman/x-9077576) joined ##slackware. [21:20] ciscoTardiCoders (dd82a2e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.162.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:20] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:20] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [21:21] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [21:21] Jeu_alabamatardi (dd821116@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.17.22) joined ##slackware. [21:21] perhaps they could close the webchat temporarily. [21:21] jayne, KB1JWQ, bots came back [21:21] no.. a lot of people use the webchat [21:22] FlappyRonoqpns (3cd9e827@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.39) joined ##slackware. [21:22] FunbsbsbsFlappy (cc832ec8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.131.46.200) joined ##slackware. [21:22] Lazmwa_Llsa (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:22] nixUr (dd821111@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.17.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: Little known fact: "Chimney Sweeps" from Dickensian literature actually did not clean chimneys in a literal sense, as soot would take centuries to build up to the point where airflow in a typical chimney was obstructed. Instead these young boys were paid for performing analingus on as many as 30 wealthy gentlemen per day. [21:22] the only way to fix it is to quiet the webchat [21:22] can you require registered nicks for the channel? [21:22] sure [21:22] no ops around, Skywise [21:22] /mode +q $~a will quiet all unidentified users [21:22] yeah, it used to be like that [21:23] or /mode +b $~a will ban all unidentified users [21:23] good ol' days [21:23] or you can do +r on the channel [21:23] bobbrown (~bb@2001:470:fc0a::1) joined ##slackware. [21:23] I already had to deal with these guys in ##linux earlier [21:23] this stuff is so tiresome [21:25] what do people even get out of doing this? [21:25] attention [21:25] goj (~goj@p4FE6AC9F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [21:25] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:25] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [21:25] fidesratio (~fidesrati@bender.open-source.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:25] moslery (~mosley@mjwensley.plus.com) joined ##slackware. [21:25] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [21:25] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-21-94.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [21:25] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [21:25] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [21:25] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] the false feeling of power [21:25] split over apparently [21:25] is Alan_Hicks an op? [21:25] yes [21:25] Jeu_alabamatardi (dd821116@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.17.22) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:25] yes but he's not responsive currently [21:25] yeah, but i think he's afk [21:25] he's idle though [21:26] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:26] wth? [21:26] Probably drinking and cleaning his gun. [21:26] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:26] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [21:26] listening to country classics:) [21:26] FunbsbsbsFlappy (cc832ec8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.131.46.200) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:26] not necessiarly in that order either [21:26] bacal (~default@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:26] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:26] FlappyRonoqpns (3cd9e827@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:26] Cleaning and drinking from his gun? Also possible. [21:28] jdetring (~jay@adsl-70-234-161-109.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:32] bacal (~default@cpe-67-49-143-91.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! [21:36] Ur_Lor (3cd9e827@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.39) joined ##slackware. [21:36] OqpnsurNoodle (3a1f2d41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.31.45.65) joined ##slackware. [21:36] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: you shut your face you nigger loving pile of intestinal feces, ill rip your bowels out and feast on them, then i'll impregnate your girlfriend and wait 7 months then unwravel her belly button and suck out all the vaginal discharge and feast upon the baby. i will fornicate your liver, then make you guzzle gallon after gallon of putrid diarrhea. you will gag on my green logs of ass [21:36] Ur_Lor (3cd9e827@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.39) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:36] ``BIKCMP` has `an ana1` injection` just `for `YOU!: i need dank nugs, smoke roach bugs, bird-man lugs, tree smokin thugs, i'm on a mission to secure a blunt, don't be pullin no bogartin' stunt, hoardin that shit ain't really kind, absorb that herb into yo mind, smokin' and tokin' until you're blind, what out for 5-0 or you gonna get fined [21:36] OqpnsurNoodle (3a1f2d41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.31.45.65) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:38] Too many people with Personality disorder in this world [21:38] plaOuter (3cd9e842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.66) joined ##slackware. [21:38] `BIKCMP`` `has an ana1 in-jection` just `for `YOU!: There is no doubt that white boys do play video games well. Having been run off the football field, basketball court, and track by more athletic black boys, white boys retreat to their computers and video games. Unfortunately, this only makes their unathletic bodies weaker, thus seriously harming their concept of masculinity and making them social outcasts with females. [21:39] Up to 10% of the population have one form or another [21:39] DenNOLA (~DenNOLA@174-148-211-227.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] ho humm 2minutes 38 seconds copying 21gb from one ext4 formatted wd black 2tb drive to another ext4 formatted wd black 2tb drive ... not bad... =) [21:41] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:42] harryosAva (dd82a2e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.162.232) joined ##slackware. [21:42] plaOuter [3cd9e842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.66] Ur_Lor [3cd9e827@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.39 OqpnsurNoodle [3a1f2d41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.31.45.65 harryosAva [dd82a2e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.162.232] [21:42] `BIKCMP`` `has an ana1 in-jection` just `for `YOU!: My Nazi fetish makes my boyfriend uncomfortable.I NEED ADVICE. You appear to be experienced in these matters, so I'll give this a try.My boyfriend told me that he finds my Irma Grese/ Ilse Koch-style Third Reich dominatrix costumes to be disturbing; he seems reluctant to participate in Lebensborn roleplaying and even Auschwitz guard/ male prisoner roleplaying. He also sugge [21:42] harryosAva (dd82a2e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.162.232) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:42] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:42] nice [21:42] moron [21:42] is there KDE3.5.10 for Slackware 13.1 yet? [21:43] uhh no [21:43] why would there be? [21:43] dchmelik: no, and I don't think there ever will be one. [21:43] plaOuter (3cd9e842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.66) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:43] :( [21:43] SopranoUritts (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) joined ##slackware. [21:43] `BIKCMP`` `has an ana1 in-jection` just `for `YOU!: If there is one thing that OSS has shown, it is that full time software teams do not produce better quality products than the amateurs (example: Linux v. windows) [21:43] SopranoUritts (5054f511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.84.245.17) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:43] IttsCmonkBisex (ae8feb6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.143.235.111) joined ##slackware. [21:43] `BIKCMP`` `has an ana1 in-jection` just `for `YOU!: Seriously, I have the greatest respect for blacks. One of my best friends is African-American. These people put up with so much hardship, just like sufferers of Down's syndrome and mongoloidism. I'm just so proud they've earned their place in American society. [21:43] IttsCmonkBisex (ae8feb6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.143.235.111) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:43] 4.4.5 is out [21:43] well, nice to see them being killed, but too bad they speak first [21:44] we can't exactly kill anyone who joins the channel [21:44] yeah and they don't share ips [21:44] don't think much else can be done, other than find the guy and stab him [21:44] Need to wake up rworkman or alienBOB or Alan_Hicks and have them place a quiet/ban on the gateway [21:45] <3 idoru [21:45] yeah idoru is killing and klining them so.. [21:46] Web_outer (3cd9e842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.66) joined ##slackware. [21:46] This channel is overall the worst damn mess of any I have seen. Always being attacked by trolls and bots. [21:46] `BIKCMP`` ``has an ana1` in jection just1 `for `YOU!: I'm a guy and my friend is a guy and for whatever reason I've always wanted to ejaculate in his face. For his birthday one year, I decided to bake him a birthday cake. In the middle of the baking, I decided I'll ejaculate in the cake. He ate the cake. Therefore I indirectly ejaculated in his face. [21:46] Web_outer (3cd9e842@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.66) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:47] who's this poor bikcmp guy [21:47] rob0, yeah but you should see channels that are overtly religious :) they have it even worse [21:47] really, wow. [21:47] #jesus #christian etc are like putting out a red flag "please spam here" [21:48] there's no one in either of those channels [21:48] not compared to here [21:49] X86_Itts (753bbb79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.59.187.121) joined ##slackware. [21:49] `BIKCMP`` ``has an ana1` in jection just1 `for `YOU!: You sick, sick butthole licking UNIX fags. How DARE you use the disgusting and fecal OS that is Linux. Windows is BEST! You fags get raped in the mind by Tux. His fag penguin guise makes you shreik out in terror for Windows, but he fuckes you so much you are forced to use Linux. I bet the fags who reply to this are being ass raped as we speak. Linux is buggy, slow, bloated a [21:49] X86_Itts (753bbb79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.59.187.121) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:50] eggs [21:50] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.5) joined ##slackware. [21:50] if its annoying you: /ignore *!*@gateway/web/* ALL would suffice [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488FC1A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] DenNOLA (~DenNOLA@174-148-211-227.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:53] Tabbycomppla (da3234d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.50.52.210) joined ##slackware. [21:53] LlsaXorz (d34b4924@gateway/web/freenode/ip.211.75.73.36) joined ##slackware. [21:54] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:54] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:55] coders_huun (dd821116@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.17.22) joined ##slackware. [21:55] asamoah (~caio@190.244.44.222) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:55] `BIKCMP`` ``has an ana1` in jection just1 `for `YOU!: Folks, as we reflect on this massive tragedy, it behooves us to consider another giant wave sweeping the globe killing indiscriminantly, a wave of zionist oppresion. We need to divert funds away from this piddling natural disaster to fight the REAL threat: the Jewnami [21:55] coders_huun (dd821116@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.130.17.22) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:55] Urron (480ed455@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.14.212.85) joined ##slackware. [21:55] goj (~goj@p4FE6AC9F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:55] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:55] `BIKCMP`` ``has an ana1` in jection just1 `for `YOU!: Nigger? So you think you are superior not only because you're white! it's because you read! ha! I didn't know they were people like you in this website, and I hope you learn more about our people, because I'm very ofended now. Racism is illegal, you know? if they were enough technologies to know who is behind that "anonymus", no doubt you would be behind bars now! Please respect [21:55] Urron (480ed455@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.14.212.85) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [21:56] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [21:57] LlsaXorz (d34b4924@gateway/web/freenode/ip.211.75.73.36) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:57] Tabbycomppla (da3234d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.50.52.210) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:58] Simonsez1 (~root@pool-173-68-135-15.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] Heya,folks...How's all? [21:58] evening eeryone [21:58] * everyone [21:58] Simonsez1, evenin' [21:59] Whats going on tonight? [21:59] I am just playing with the idea of installing slackware on one of my machines [22:00] I did it on my netbook awhile ago, everything works now, except X, I broke that, but you know, who uses that anyway, right? [22:00] lol [22:00] there is always moc and irssi anyway [22:00] Yep. [22:00] vlc can be used with the ncurses interface [22:00] I am a simple user.. Not a sys admin or anything like that [22:01] Seriously? I didn't know vlc could use ncurses. [22:01] That's pretty awesome. [22:01] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:02] mplayer can also use framebuffer for video [22:02] -vo svga [22:02] nian, when you compile...just include --enable-ncurses to ./configure [22:02] MLanden, Nice, I'll try that at some point, thanks. [22:02] nian, np [22:03] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:05] I personally like mocp..but saw a blog referring to a few others..herrie,orpheus, as well as cmus and mp3blaster [22:05] I use mpg123 . and i wrote a small script for mpg123 to stream audio or dig thru a directory to play music [22:06] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [22:06] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:06] Simonsez1, seen a clone of that using gsteamer.. http://freshmeat.net/projects/gst123 [22:07] thanks.. i will look into it [22:07] cmus is amazing, but i have aliases set up for (mpg|ogg)123 to stream my favorite radio stations [22:07] seems nice.. [22:07] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. [22:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] I was thinking of installing slack but i think my machines couldnt handle it. I only have a 4 gig drive on it [22:08] jumperboy, cmus is cool with nonx86 archs that don't like playing nice with progs like mocp [22:08] I just play with live cd's mostly [22:08] Simonsez1, i installed slackware on a machine like that [22:08] Simonsez1, what machine is this? [22:08] ibm thinkpad 570.. 333mhz with 128megs of ra [22:08] m [22:08] Action: Delahunt had a 4gb ssd netbook w/ atom processor running it [22:08] oh [22:08] i think its too slow for slack [22:09] well maybe not a lot of graphical stuff, but surely you could use that thing for something [22:09] i use it now. i use puppy linux on it and it runs great [22:09] Action: Delahunt shrugs [22:09] I like playing with different distros [22:09] I know. Puppy is like linux on training wheels but that's what i am ..a noob [22:10] Simonsez1, have you tried tinycore ? [22:10] Simonsez1: try tiny core on it [22:10] yes.. too small [22:10] too much work to get to do what i want [22:10] its a great idea [22:10] I have tried almost all linux based oses [22:10] even tried to revive Os/2 Ecomstation too [22:11] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:11] it is spare like slitaz [22:11] didnt like slitaz or slax much [22:11] but slax remix was pretty nice [22:11] Simonsez1: try absolute which is based on Slackware. if that works you can always try Slack later. it will definitely need more work [22:12] i will look into it. thanks [22:12] its meant to run on 128mb machines [22:12] thats me :P [22:13] wow. it looks nice [22:13] had to look that model up...see that it uses Neomagic MagicMedia256AV...12.1" or 13.3" , Simonsez1? [22:13] it does use neomagic [22:13] T600 I use also uses neomagic [22:14] this is a 570..much slower then a t600 [22:14] Simonsez1, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:570 thinkwiki's good with non-thinks for reference as well [22:14] ok. some background info.. I get alot of old hardware to play with from my company.. And of course I have to get the oldest pos machine i have to work. just cause.. i am an idiot [22:15] thanks MLanden [22:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:15] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:15] sounds right 256av.. and i have the 13.3 tft display [22:15] machine runs great [22:15] that's not bad..1024x768 [22:15] no flash video :( [22:16] no.. its fine.. i have other hardware but .. its no fun getting new stuff to work.. [22:16] although you could certianly watch youtube without flash [22:16] *certainly [22:16] Delahunt: yours was (? no longer have it?) atom? Mine is celeron. [22:16] my processor is too slow.. it gitters [22:17] can ffmpeg work with Pentium 2's? [22:17] yes [22:17] habaneros (~habaneros@23.252.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:17] rheault (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] this bad boy does almost everything i need.. I just cant tether or watch youtube/hulu videos [22:18] my kernel is too old [22:19] updated kernels are too much for this machine [22:19] Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 900MHz model 13 stepping 8 [22:20] AlabamaMang (bc3492e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.52.146.232) joined ##slackware. [22:20] anyway.. thanks guys for the ideas and the chat.. have a great night [22:20] `BIK-CMP` `has an ana1 injection` just `for YOU!!: I am a nose-picker. I cannot stand having crunchy snot clinging to the insides of my nostrils, or feeling something dangling there in the back. So I dig it out. I'm also like this about cleaning my ears; I cannot stand feeling that there's something in there. Yuck. A bonus to all this is that I get a slight rush of euphoria when I dig out a really big booger, or find a lot o [22:20] Simonsez1 (root@pool-173-68-135-15.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [22:20] rob0, i upgraded to a 16gb ssd [22:21] is yours an atom or celeron M? [22:21] atom n270 [22:21] 1.6ghz [22:21] oh, I thought you had the eee900 [22:21] i do [22:21] 900a [22:21] Bisexnoodlehig (3cd9f884@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.132) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Reticent1 (~reticenti@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:21] is logfs still buggy with ssd? saw a reference to it when I was compiling [22:22] you remember what i have? dang, i can't remember what other people have to save my life [22:22] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:22] Delahunt, I found your page on el Goog when I was thinking about putting Slackware on mine. [22:22] though i still have the 4gb ssd card and the image of it, in case i wanted to use it [22:22] ah [22:22] i love being listed in google :) [22:23] what # result was i? ;) [22:23] can't remember [22:23] Action: Delahunt is running two lzma sessions right now so he don't want to fire up firefox [22:23] noderubb (bc3492e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.52.146.232) joined ##slackware. [22:24] AlabamaMang (bc3492e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.52.146.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:25] lorNode (bc3492e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.52.146.232) joined ##slackware. [22:25] lzma -9 for the sort-of win [22:26] Bisexnoodlehig (3cd9f884@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.132) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:27] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:27] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:28] noderubb (bc3492e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.52.146.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:29] lorNode (bc3492e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.52.146.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:31] rob0, i dunno about you but i get GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) rather easily [22:31] "hey i wonder if slackware would run on that...." [22:32] Delahunt, true...especially with armedslack as well...;) [22:33] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:33] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [22:33] yeah, i'm tempted to get a whatever-that-plug-sized-one-is [22:34] shiva plug? [22:34] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:34] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:34] I need to acquire more gear unfortunately [22:34] yeah, the sheevaplug [22:36] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [22:38] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [22:38] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] I'm getting the strangest shit ever. Lol... alright, I'm not missing headers- and when I try to compile some things that seem okay source wise, I get crap like system() undeclared in this scope, I'm even misisng a function from strings.h [22:40] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] nian (~jack@194-130.dsl.iskon.hr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:41] Delahunt, speaking about the arm archs,you might have heard of these in your neck of the woods http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumby [22:41] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [22:43] nope never heard of it [22:43] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:44] ahh [22:49] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:51] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:53] fatalnix, any major upgrades? [22:54] Nah. I'm looking into it a little but, I'm more hoping it's just the source [22:55] ususally isn't. it's usually a missing lib really, but some of this stuff.. [22:55] is in the core libs [22:55] Kind of weird if you ask me [22:57] I think it is, because the slackbuild has its own sources, like, it looks like they're patched. [22:57] yeah,it is...strange for gcc to glitch up [22:58] it was zsnes but I remember it building on earlier slack versions and I know it definately wasn't the distribution lol [22:58] Nick change: Reticent1 -> Reticenti [22:58] Reticenti (~reticenti@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Changing host [22:58] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [22:58] natex (~nathan@cpe-24-59-4-137.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:58] some of this may be because most of zsnes that I know about is in asm [22:59] and some C++ [23:00] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:00] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] I've been having bad luck with cpan modules and I'm getting used to using a laptop again so when things stop working flawlessly I start to wonder lol. [23:02] fatalnix, hear ya [23:06] seekret (~mrfrank@c-67-184-235-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] could not find any joysticks!? if brains had usb ports... [23:09] fatalnix, what make of the joysticks? [23:09] thinking. [23:09] insmod humanoid.ko? [23:10] you know it would be epic [23:12] x86huun (c8655383@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.101.83.131) joined ##slackware. [23:12] clavius2 (~James@adsl-152-81-177.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] demoncmppersopra (c8655383@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.101.83.131) joined ##slackware. [23:13] fatalnix, any entry under /dev/input when you plug it in(i.e. js0 js1 etc)? [23:14] KilledCooOs (bb3a054e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.58.5.78) joined ##slackware. [23:15] of course not I haven't invented such an interface yet! [23:15] `BIK-CMP` `has an ana1 injection` just `for YOU!!: girl you must be a sata2 hard drive because you are modestly increasing my pipe [23:15] demoncmppersopra (c8655383@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.101.83.131) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [23:15] x86huun (c8655383@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.101.83.131) left irc: Disconnected by services [23:15] Action: maco raises an eyebrow [23:15] am I the only one who read that as anal injection? [23:15] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:16] i think that was intentional [23:16] wtf [23:16] lol...,<3 the timing [23:16] marcelomf (~marcelo@189.63.4.185) joined ##slackware. [23:16] we've been getting spammage for a while now [23:17] really? [23:17] It must be a recentthing [23:17] damn deadzone in my spacebar! [23:17] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:17] trhodes, so I've seen it the day's log....talk 'bout bad botflies [23:17] yeah, at least 3 hours now [23:18] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [23:18] sheesh, if you're going to make bots at least make them useful, and dont use this channel for it! [23:18] I have a buubot process running and you dont see me running it here lol [23:19] KilledCooOs (bb3a054e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.58.5.78) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:19] I would advise +m on the channel maybe? [23:19] or not +m [23:19] no ops around, afaik [23:19] identified only [23:19] ah [23:19] marcelomf (marcelo@189.63.4.185) left ##slackware. [23:20] right.. I haven't been kicked yet for spam./ [23:21] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:22] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:23] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-86-5.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:24] fatalnix, lol...did ya say spam? http://www.lileks.com/30s/30smagads/food/4.html ;) [23:26] SO IT WAS YOU who sent a NOTICE to all of freenode with an EPIC sized color ascii art logo for SPAM! [23:26] a while ago [23:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] no,not me....but know what you mean [23:27] you saw that? [23:27] that was hilarious [23:27] it was like a year ago almost now [23:27] I think [23:30] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:30] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [23:31] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:31] trying to recall if it was originally a nfo file [23:31] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:32] lol [23:36] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:36] hmm that sounds familiar [23:37] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] ok [23:38] it looks like this server has 4 CPU's [23:38] it's probably 2 hyperthreaed or 2 dual core cpu's [23:38] butit might be 4 [23:38] wrong channel [23:39] hrm, I just bought a WD My Book World Edition...wondering if I can use slackware package management tools on busybox [23:39] should be OK, right? [23:39] redtricycle: well what do you think would cause a problem? [23:40] I dont know how busybox works on this custom WDMBWE [23:40] For example, there are no home folders [23:41] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [23:42] redtricycle, firewire or usb? [23:42] network [23:42] so I'm using SSH [23:42] Not sure how to install pkgtools [23:43] has anyone had a problem where there is an executable script in a directory, and even using autocomplete bash just says no such file or directory when you try to run it? [23:43] I've never used a distro other than slackware [23:43] o_o [23:43] I've had it once somewhere. [23:46] redtricycle, ok,busybox ... wasn't paying attention http://martin.hinner.info/mybook/ maybe this might help [23:47] davimint (~david@c-76-123-182-205.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:55] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:56] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:56] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-134-024.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:57] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Fri Jul 2 2010