[00:02] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:06] RickBuzzly (~rickbuzzl@166.205.8.101) left irc: Quit: buh-bye. [00:06] Xgates, i had to leave, did it work? [00:07] http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/ [00:08] ? [00:11] Redness (~redness@c122-108-167-28.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:18] mancha: I just had to reinstall the modules, then I reinstalled the source and the dang 10.5 itself worked [00:18] LOL [00:19] hah. so your kernel side was screwey and the catalyst (plain) worked after that? [00:19] but now damm firefox wont work with flash for me, used about 3 versions from Adobe then I tried the one in extra for the slackbuild and that didn't work either so I'm going to see about using Chromium instead [00:19] yeah just plain worked [00:19] hehe [00:19] well i am glad i spent 45 minutes on that! [00:19] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:22] LOL [00:23] thanks mancha though... ;) [00:23] glad you sorted it out... [00:23] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:23] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:23] well you helped me with that telling me about the modules [00:24] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [00:24] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [00:24] mancha: do you know if there are any nightly or tarballs for Chromium? [00:24] all I see that they make are .deb .rpm [00:25] this is all I found as far as tar http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/archives/ [00:25] but from what I see there are no tars compiled up [00:26] Xgates: can you use rpm2tgz on it? [00:26] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [00:26] there's a zip here: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/48615/ [00:27] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxChromiumPackages [00:27] edthix (ed@110.159.93.157) left ##slackware. [00:28] trhodes: ahh ok cool I'll keep and eye on : [00:28] http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/ [00:28] I just hope it works [00:28] there's a 64 bit tree too [00:28] (whatever you use) [00:29] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [00:29] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:30] trhodes: ahh yeah I use x64 [00:30] ok I keep an eye on ---> http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux-64/ [00:30] lol [00:30] cool :) [00:30] @_@ [00:30] THANKS [00:30] there is a slackware package for it... [00:31] for 13.1? [00:31] did you try the 13.0's listed in that link on 13.1? [00:31] they work for me [00:32] what this one? [00:32] http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/network/google-chrome/ [00:33] yes [00:33] granted it's 32bit [00:33] well I'll just run the one in the zip for now and see how it goes [00:33] yeah the one I got is x64 [00:34] you can/could install it also without the package manager [00:35] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [00:37] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [00:41] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] bjx (~brendan@60-240-108-175.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:49] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-50-156.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] crap chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so.1d [00:50] so I've been making symlinks all over the place and can't get it to load [00:51] from what I read you just make a symlink from libnss3.so /usr/lib64/libnss3.so.1d [00:52] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [00:52] this is what I'm suppose to do: [00:52] ln -s /usr/lib64/seamonkey/libnss3.so /usr/lib64/libnss3.so.1d [00:52] but not working [00:52] hmm [00:52] GOOOOD Morning! [00:53] Nick change: juan--d-_-b -> juan--du_\\b [00:54] mrcarrot (1000@86-60-156-248-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [00:56] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-43.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[01:06] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:07] ok found these then [01:07] http://ftp.slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/ORBit2/ [01:07] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/GConf/ [01:07] are those slackbuilds at slackbuilds.org good to use? [01:07] Ps3-Jack (~chatzilla@112.135.46.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:07] Nick change: Ps3-Jack_ -> Ps3-Jack [01:07] Xgates, yes. [01:07] I use them [01:07] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [01:08] ok thanks [01:08] Xgates, pretty much all slackbuilds are of a notable quality [01:09] ok [01:09] blaines_ (~blaines@ip68-228-243-100.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:09] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:10] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:10] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:10] So it seems to me that the newer ntfs-3g releases don't handle the "silent" mount option correctly [01:10] reverting to the 13.0 package solves my problems [01:10] EnnTeeEffEss suques. [01:11] hiptobecubic, have you reviewed the build scripts to see what changed? [01:12] twoshot_, [01:13] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-50-156.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:13] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:14] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:14] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [01:14] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [01:14] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [01:14] hmm, no change in the config flags, it looks like it is a change in the program itself [01:15] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-73.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:15] blaines (~blaines@ip68-228-243-100.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] edthix (~ed@110.159.93.157) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:16] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-43.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:17] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [01:17] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] mfillpot, no real difference in the build scripts... but it looks like the .fdi files differ significantly. [01:18] hiptobecubic, I am looking at the changelog for the app if you want a link [01:18] mfillpot, please [01:19] hiptobecubic, 13.0 was 4-4-09 and 13.1 was 3-7-10... http://www.tuxera.com/community/release-history/ [01:19] oh, yes i have seen this [01:19] and read some forum posts [01:20] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:20] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:20] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:20] As far as i can tell. The behavior is just as if the "silent" option, which is supposed to be on by default, is not honored in the new ones [01:21] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [01:22] speaking about ntfs-3g [01:22] hiptobecubic, check this out http://www.tuxera.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230 [01:23] does anyone happen to know how to get ntfs-3g to read every single file on a hd... so far i have always had to use kernel ntfs for reading every file [01:23] ntfs-3g is not showing the protected files in home directories [01:24] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] mfillpot, nice :D [01:24] i need to do this every day.... even in this moment i am backuping by kernel ntfs a poor customers hd after computer crash [01:25] mrcarrot, what version of windows are you working in? [01:25] mfillpot, specifying umask apparently hands permission-duty over to FUSE which doesn't handle it the right way i guess [01:25] mfillpot: i am not working in windows.... i am using slackware myself [01:25] hiptobecubic, did that fix the problem? [01:26] mfillpot, immediately [01:26] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [01:26] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:26] i am working at a small computer company.... and customers are coming here with computers [01:26] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:26] so it might be anything from win2000 to win7 that i need to rescue files from [01:26] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [01:27] mrcarrot, What I am getting to is that the version of windows that wrote the ntfs partition may have utilized newer flags, I have never had any problems getting into user directories up to vista, I haven't tried it on 7 [01:27] jacktrust (~backup@cpe-075-176-187-163.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:27] mfillpot: it depends on what rights the user has been putting on the files... i have many times been noticing that some files are missing if i am using just plain ntfs-3g [01:28] mrcarrot, are you referring to the hidden directories? [01:28] no... but you can but read/write/modify rights for different users in windows [01:29] and depending on this, some files are not there [01:29] kernel ntfs has alwasys been finding them [01:29] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:30] so nowdays when i get a ntfs system to rescue i am manually mounting it like this: [01:30] mount -t ntfs -o iocharset=iso8859-1 /dev/sdXX /mnt/X [01:30] hiptobecubic, it is good to see that it is fixed [01:30] then everything is readable [01:30] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-50-156.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:31] mrcarrot, have you tracked a similarity between the files that you cannot see? [01:31] mfillpot, yes. it is. [01:31] heya,folks [01:31] MLanden, yo [01:31] mfillpot: i have not had time to track that.... [01:31] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [01:31] oy,mfillpot [01:32] I have a bad history with being on and off in this channel for months at a time [01:33] linux is the best for rescuing windows systems as it is not halting for each system file or cookie [01:33] edthix (~ed@124.13.34.207) joined ##slackware. [01:33] when i am copying [01:35] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:35] it even handles good broken hard disks [01:36] ed was the first use of the s/// substitution syntax [01:36] lets not forget the ability to unlock HDs that are marked as active, that have saved a few systems [01:37] s/fedora/slackware/g [01:38] that was for twoshot_ [01:38] =] [01:38] blaines (~blaines@ip68-228-243-100.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:42] whoever uses any distribution other than slackware is officially named Clark Fitzpenis [01:42] how did you know my name [01:42] can you read minds? [01:42] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:42] i could smell you through the internet [01:43] =[ [01:44] sadman_ (~sadman@141.70.82.221) joined ##slackware. [01:44] upgraded my funny server to 13.1 pretty much, with a funny xen kernel and forgot the build initrd for 2.6.31.13 :) [01:44] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] fixed, can't believe i forgot make modules_install and making initrd with -L :) ;DDD [01:46] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:47] sadman_ (~sadman@141.70.82.221) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:49] oh wow, i forgot i have to run grub. no wonder ther is no /proc/xen [01:49] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.169) joined ##slackware. [01:52] Mel-nix, able to setup and use WIMAX? [01:53] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [01:55] juan--du_\\b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:57] MLanden: No. I suppose I will be needing a USB cable to the CPE, in order for the kernel to detect it in order to get wmx0. [01:57] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:57] Mel-nix, ok....no problems with firmware or MAC address? [01:58] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:59] well java is working in the latest chromium nightly build NOW if I can just get the dang flash to work [02:00] whoops*...guess there would first have to be a connection to see if there are any problems [02:01] MLanden: Yes, I haven't begun messing with anything for now. [02:02] MLanden: Shouldn't the "wimax-tools" package have to be included in Slackware? [02:02] Mel-nix, well,good luck...from what I've read,it does seem fascinating [02:03] woot [02:03] does svn have a way to split changes into several commits? [02:03] MLanden: For now there seems to be included "wireless-tools". [02:04] google reports to have dumped ms windows in all google offices - employees to use apple or linux only [02:04] hiptobecubic, that would be the client-side of svn [02:04] alisonken1noc, true. I mean the standard cli [02:05] alisonken1noc, alternatively, is there a way to tell /usr/bin/patch to only apply certain hunks? I could do it manually [02:05] for i in (file list) ; do svn commit ; done [02:05] Mel-nix, maybe perhaps because of the firmware to the WIMAX devices...open source vs closed source [02:05] or something like that [02:05] for i in (file list) ; do svn commit $i ; done [02:05] as far as patching goes, not sure [02:06] alisonken1noc, that is for whole files. I have one file with many commits worth of changes in it that hasn't been committed. I don' want to have a 300 line commit with five bug fixes in it [02:07] nope - have to manually break out the patchset then [02:07] svn (my understanding) will only work with committed revisions as far as being able to bisect or specify changes [02:07] yeah i guess i'll just edit the patch into several smaller ones [02:08] hiptobecubic: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/75809/partial-commits-with-subversion [02:08] SiegeX, investigating... [02:08] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [02:09] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-76-202.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:10] SiegeX, yeah the most feasible option seems to be making a bunch of patches. thanks [02:12] sheesh I guess I'm going to have to dump x64 can't get flash to work in FF or Chromium [02:12] oh what a pain [02:12] :( [02:13] pcastle (~pcastle@cpe-75-83-193-151.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:14] Xgates: multilib is not an option? [02:14] pcastle (~pcastle@cpe-75-83-193-151.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:14] Xgates: is not the alpha version of 64 bit flash working? [02:14] Xgates, what problem are you having with flash and ff -did you install the flash plugin from slackbuilds.org? [02:15] oops - ok, I've got 64-bit flash beta working on my slack64 setup [02:15] oh, there's a 64bit flash there.. [02:16] multilib what's that? [02:17] 32-bit compatibility so the 32-bit programs can run on your 64-bit machine [02:17] I used the latest version and in FF it would just disappear when going to a site with flash [02:17] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [02:17] unlike $OTHER_DISTROS, multilib is not default in slackware yet [02:18] well I was hoping the x64 version of flash would work but can't seem to get it to go [02:19] Xgates, again, did you try the slackbuild.org flash plugin package? [02:19] in Chromium when I type about:plugins they are listed there but when I got to a site with flash I just see a box for the flash area that says missing plugin [02:19] yeah I tried the slackbuild too and for FF the same thing FF would just crash and disappear [02:19] not sure about chromium, though [02:20] hmm maybe I'll try the slackbuild for chromium and see if I have any luck [02:21] what kind of x86_64 machine? I've got a dell from the early 64-bit days, and there's an lhfa fix that needs to be installed because of a missing x86_64 instruction [02:21] the latest chrome build really nice and fast [02:21] hasn't crashed on me either [02:21] eMachines e627 it's pretty recent [02:22] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:22] http://support.gateway.com/emachines/notebook/2009/emachines/eme/eme627/eME627sp2.shtml [02:22] when I install software, it is best to make it into a package, right? [02:22] got the one with the AMD Athlon™ 64 single-core processor TF-20 [02:23] dchmelik: well making a slack pkg easier for keeping things tidy installing and uninstalling [02:23] yeah... so what program do you use to make a slack package when you run a Makefile? [02:23] or a ./configure [02:24] you create a slackbuild that runs the ./configure && make cycle, then installs it into a clean directory, then run makepkg on the directory to make a package [02:24] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:24] oh yeah, I will have to make a SlackBuild [02:25] what do you mean by 'clean directory?' [02:25] just some random new directory? [02:25] |ast| (~lilo78@186.137.23.210) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:25] a temporary directory where the only thing in it are for that program only - that's the tree that gets put into a package [02:26] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:26] aha... sort of like SBopkg does in /tmp [02:27] correct. there's a guide on making a package which includes the steps for making a clean package - as well as things to do to tidy up, like stripping binaries and such [02:27] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:27] well the slackpkg is showing up for Chromium in the about:plugins: [02:28] /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [02:28] well let's try this again [02:28] ahhhhhhhh [02:28] Missing Plugin-in [02:29] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:30] xgates - you may have to install the plugin in ff plugin directory rather than mozilla plugin directory [02:30] Xgates: i put my libflashplayer.so in ~/home/user [02:30] create a soft link for it [02:30] alisonken1noc: or sym.. [02:30] pupit, :) [02:31] I've tried it all over the place [02:31] hehe [02:31] :) [02:31] this is where I had it last [02:31] /home/sar/Chromium-48615/plugins/ [02:32] Xgates: try to backup ~/home/sar/Ch... , delete it, run chromium again and put there flashlib [02:33] put it where? [02:33] in /home/sar/Chromium-48615/plugins/ [02:33] ok and delete what? [02:34] first backup, then delete ~/home/sar/Chromim folder [02:35] why delete it? [02:35] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:35] you mean like unzip the nightly build again and start over? [02:35] just ashoot in the dark, maybe your profile has some conflicts [02:35] ok [02:36] then I'll just ln -s /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /home/sar/Chromium-48615/plugins/libflashplayer.so [02:37] yup [02:40] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-202.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:41] nope [02:42] I guess it's time to ditch x64 slack and just get the 32bit [02:42] which sucks cause I'd rather use it [02:43] id try multilib for the last [02:44] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [02:45] tmkd (user-448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) joined ##slackware. [02:45] hi [02:47] Xgates, ls /usr/lib64/firefox-3.6.3/plugins/ -l --> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9570824 2010-05-29 15:44 libflashplayer.so [02:48] sar@slackware:~/Chromium-48615/plugins$ ls -l libflashplayer.so [02:48] lrwxrwxrwx 1 sar users 44 2010-05-31 20:39 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [02:48] hm maybe the perms messed up? [02:49] did you get the so lib from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html ? [02:49] yeah I never thought about perms being a problem [02:49] actually that's from the slackbuild [02:49] but I just made the symlink as a user since that's in my $HOME [02:50] flashplayer-plugin-10.0.42.34-x86_64-1.txz [02:51] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Quit: inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris [02:51] sar@slackware:/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins$ ls -l libflashplayer.so [02:51] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9570952 2010-05-31 20:23 libflashplayer.so* [02:51] those have the same perms [02:51] but if I run the plugin from there it's not working either [02:52] last version on adobe site is 10.0.45.2, I've no problem with this one [02:52] nope not working for me [02:53] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:53] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [02:55] ok so I found the multilib: [02:55] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.1/ [02:56] but when I install them I run it like this: upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new [02:56] wertik_ (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [02:57] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425256.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [02:58] keep in mind - 64-bit ff would still require an extra step to get 32-bit flash working in 64-bit ff [02:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425256.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:58] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:58] Xgates, as another exercise, try starting ff from cli in a terminal and see if there's errors that get reported [02:58] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-50-156.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:59] yea it did show [02:59] one sec [03:00] sar@slackware:~$ firefox [03:00] /usr/lib64/firefox-3.6.3/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 24956 Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"} [03:00] Xgates: ff-3.6.3 is there an updated version? [03:01] Xgates, ok - try it again after removing flash and see if an error shows up in the console [03:02] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.191.207) joined ##slackware. [03:02] no errors if flash is not installed that's just because I tried to go to a flash enabled site [03:02] tflorea (HydraIRC@dhcp184-48-53-175.oakmv.sjc.wayport.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:02] pupit: no other FF versions I think even at mozilla 3.6.3 is the latest [03:03] personally I'd rather run Chromium it flys circles around FF [03:03] but can't get flash to work in it, so I'm thinking to do multilib and see if I run a 32bit [03:04] wertik_ (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:07] Xgates: try running it as root [03:07] yorick (~a@c-24-147-175-17.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] Nick change: yorick -> Guest54689 [03:08] k [03:09] same thing [03:09] root@slackware:~# firefox [03:09] /usr/lib64/firefox-3.6.3/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 25035 Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"} [03:10] wu_lmao (~a@c-24-147-175-17.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:10] yes and no :s 1st/ line 131: 25035 Segmentation fault 2nd/ line 131: 24956 Segmentation fault [03:13] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:14] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [03:15] I followed the instructions in the ramdisk readme, but when I rebooted, my computer said /dev/sda1 did not exist [03:15] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:16] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:18] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-202.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:19] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-73.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:19] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [03:20] dare I ask.. ramdisk? [03:20] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:21] I'm guessing new install? [03:22] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [03:22] yes... I meant initrd or whatever [03:24] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [03:25] reboot with the huge kernel of your choice (you do still have them installed, right?), then run the following to generate a sample commandline that would create a functional initrd. spice to taste (ie: for suspend-to-disk stuff) [03:25] /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh [03:25] say on the multilib I only have a x64 dvd so anyone from online I can make the 32-bit Slackware package tree [03:25] so anyone/anyway.... [03:25] update your lilo.conf appropriately, rerun lilo, reboot [03:26] Xgates, there's a howto at aliens site for which packages to d/l and how to convert to multilib packages [03:26] Xgates: try asking again, but a little less random [03:26] alisonken1home: yeah I'm there doing it all now [03:26] ok, I will try the command from that script [03:26] I need to make the 32-bit Slackware package tree but I only have a x64 dvd [03:27] massconvert32.sh -i is /path/to/tree/on/cd [03:27] Xgates, either way you would still have to d/l the 32-bit packages [03:27] the script gave a different command than the readme had suggested [03:27] so just d/l from the slackware mirror of your choice [03:27] ok [03:30] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:30] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:30] then massconvert [03:30] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. 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[03:32] the knowledge to hack root is sacred [03:32] said permission denied [03:33] you can only change the password, you can't ever decrypt it [03:33] i want to change it [03:33] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.66.35) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:34] just boot you install disk, mount your partition with /etc on it and then edit /etc/shadow accordingly [03:35] alienBOB: ahhh now that is what I wanted to know... NICE - so if I'm going to grab 13.1 from here - http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.1/ how would I run that? [03:35] has anyone been successing in booting an lvm2 raid with slackware [03:35] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.28.71) joined ##slackware. [03:35] massconvert32.sh -u http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.1/ [03:36] skywise what about single user mode? [03:36] can't that reset my password? [03:36] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:36] you can't get to single user mode and it should only give you a logon prompt when you start it [03:37] FriedBob (~Drinne@c-68-55-75-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:37] or do I have to run it individually to each /tree as: [03:37] massconvert32.sh -u http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.1/a [03:37] i have a non-root account [03:37] you can't change usermode without it, unless you can run su or sudo the command [03:38] hmm let me try that [03:38] i swore this was the password [03:38] im thinking someone might have hacked and changed my password [03:39] try hunter2 [03:39] Vanger_ (~Vanger@80.91.178.197) joined ##slackware. [03:39] tavl (~tavl@189.70.229.173) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:39] i guess i can just kill this vm [03:40] and just reinstall it :p [03:40] or try to follow the advice people gave you [03:41] yes, to mount my partition with /etc on it [03:41] i dont even know what that means so... [03:41] hehe [03:41] im new to linux [03:41] and computers [03:42] Vanger (~Vanger@80.91.178.197) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:42] ComputerNewbie: $ fdisk -l # will give you a list of partitions. Take a look at your fstab(5) too. [03:43] ComputerNewbie, make sure you are root when you run fdisk -l [03:44] i dont have access to root, because i forgot my passwrod stupidly :p [03:44] if i try to use a lvm2 partition as / slackware can not find the nodes in /dev [03:44] if i boot the install cd i get the nodes there by writing [03:44] vgscan --mknodes [03:45] vgchange -ay [03:45] is it something i should add to initrd.gz? [03:45] alienBOB: how would I run massconvert32.sh -u for this URL - http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13 [03:47] cteg (~heretic@dyndsl-085-016-202-053.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [03:49] StevenR (~foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:54] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:54] anyone know how I can run massconvert32.sh -u http://some.server//path/to/tree/ with this url? http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.1 [03:54] mrcarrot: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.1/README_LVM.TXT [03:58] kalo mina [03:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425256.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [04:00] oh mr alienBOB you there? I can't get assconvert32.sh -u to work [04:00] I mean massconvert32 [04:00] assconvert [04:00] LOL [04:02] assconvert32-24-32 ;) [04:02] with wget is there a way to download a complete /tree directory with one cmd? [04:02] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [04:03] Xgates: read the help page: you need http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware/ not http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.1 [04:05] sorry didn't see this help page you are talking about [04:06] ok massconvert32.sh -u http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware is working... [04:08] I see what you're saying on the wiki: [04:08] massconvert32.sh -u http://someserver.org/path/to/slackware-13.0 [04:08] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:09] but since I'm running massconvert32.sh -u instead of -i in a tree I made, so now I have: [04:09] sar@slackware:~/compat32$ ls [04:09] a-compat32/ ap-compat32/ d-compat32/ l-compat32/ n-compat32/ x-compat32/ [04:09] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425979.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:09] bevil (~tester@222.19.211.68) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:10] in /compat32 when it's done I'll just run still ---> installpkg *-compat32/*.t?z ?? [04:11] ok ic :) [04:11] Morn [04:14] Xgates: but your observation is correct, I will update the wiki page. Running "masconvert32.sh -h" will show some help text btw [04:14] ok [04:14] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [04:15] this is nice thanks for making all this, I remember when you first put this up I think back then I used it once [04:15] but dang 13.1 I can't get flash to work in ff or chromium so need to just install a 32bit Chromium or FF [04:16] *** Conversion done! [04:16] wow that was a fast download [04:16] Action: Xgates runs installpkg *-compat32/*.t?z [04:17] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:18] I think I will switch back to KDE3 [04:18] Done! You can now start downloading, installing and running 32bit programs. This was not so hard, was it? [04:18] no way Mr AlienBOB that was NEATO :) [04:18] super easy [04:18] hehe [04:24] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [04:30] pupit: thanks for the source... i found another txt file in that folder that helped... the one about raid [04:30] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [04:32] alienBOB: well I can't install and use Firefox 32bit [04:33] have you conidered installing 32-bit slackware? :) [04:33] oh is it true slack 13.2 is due out this week? er, i mean good morning boys and girs :) [04:34] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:34] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:35] uffff, i found a bug in slackware.... the same as in f*dora [04:35] i can not use the CD [04:35] it is possible to install from the cd [04:35] but when the system is up and running the cd is not there anymore [04:35] can you see the cd at all? [04:36] not possible to mount [04:36] nope [04:36] even as root? [04:36] nope [04:36] did you try dmesg and see what it said about finding a cd reader? [04:36] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [04:37] a lot of io error [04:37] even though it should work [04:37] as i installed from it [04:37] what kinds of errors? [04:38] are you sure your hw isn't dying? [04:38] hey, now it is working again [04:38] strange [04:38] sounds to me like your drive's got late-stage lymphoma [04:38] :) [04:39] could somebody point me quickly to some documentation for this akanodi server.... [04:39] i mean, how to set it up [04:42] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.55.228) joined ##slackware. [04:47] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.191.207) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:47] Xgates: on Slackware64 you should be able to install and run Slackware's 32bit firefox, but you will probably have to tweak the firefox startup script for that... plus, why on earth would you want that? Install regular 32-bit Slackware then [04:47] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.191.207) joined ##slackware. [04:49] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[04:55] makan (~756666b3@gateway/web/freenode/x-zjvfoplcwkjdtlfc) left irc: Client Quit [04:55] Xgates: RE your flash problem :- http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz [04:55] sbo has a nice package too [04:55] s/package/slackbuild/ [04:58] WildWizard: doesn't work [04:58] works just fine note the x86_64 bit, or you have put it in the wrong place [04:59] WildWizard: I've been using Slack 10 years my man I know how to install flash :) [04:59] it no work [04:59] ok later guys [04:59] do you have /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [04:59] makan (~756666b3@gateway/web/freenode/x-tyjuwsfrfsjguygj) joined ##slackware. [04:59] I'm just going to use 32x [04:59] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [05:00] *sigh* some people can;t be helped [05:00] makan (756666b3@gateway/web/freenode/x-tyjuwsfrfsjguygj) left ##slackware. 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[06:23] dd [06:24] readcd [06:24] alternatively, if you have a 4GB usb stick, you can create usb install media [you'd need windows for that]. very handy [06:24] i have a 16GB stick :) [06:24] but its not necessary [06:25] this is only for virtual machine use by testing bods [06:25] PacManLives (~sharp@99-130-61-28.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:26] amazing, the latest version of evince bombs if you're missing a dir [06:28] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.191.207) joined ##slackware. [06:29] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [06:33] zoot_ (zoot@dsl-145-210-40.telkomadsl.co.za) left ##slackware. [06:37] hi) if i have partition in extended partition with ubuntu which is mounted as / can't i create there a new partition with same mount point? [06:38] asamoah (~caio@190.244.41.59) joined ##slackware. [06:39] '/' is relative only to the running distro. if you have ubuntu in, say, /dev/sda5, there's nothing to stop you from having slack in /dev/sda6 [06:39] stated a different way, ubuntu's / would be /dev/sda5, slack's / would be /dev/sda6 [06:39] clear as mud? [06:39] theF? Win7_x86 = 2.5GB. Win7_x86_64 = 3.2GB. [06:40] howinhell did you strip win7 down to less than 1/4 its normal size? [06:40] alphageek: he's talking about media images [06:40] ahh [06:41] that makes more sense ;) [06:41] still.. why is 64bit a whole CD bigger? [06:41] Vanger (~Vanger@80.91.178.197) joined ##slackware. [06:42] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [06:44] goarilla (~kjp@unaffiliated/goarilla) joined ##slackware. [06:44] now where's thrice` with his anti-microsoft commentary? 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[06:46] ananke: better::= preferable by you [06:47] vdv: that's a silly criteria, it doesn't tell you anything about the actual advantage/disadvantage [06:47] raela: didn't you ever want to wear good watches? ) [06:47] were I the type to wear a watch (I don't for a somewhat unusual reason), I'd go for a cheap digital. no need to remember to wind the silly thing [06:48] vdv: http://www.timecafe.com/Mechanical_Quartz.htm [06:48] vdv: nope! besides, if I break a fancy one, it'd suck [06:48] ananke: actually i know differences between two [06:48] o/ * [06:48] vdv: then why do you ask for 'better'? [06:48] mine displays time.. and is small.. and I can shower with it. sounds good to me [06:49] ananke: just wanted to hear some opinions ) [06:49] Wiren (~IceChat7@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:49] ananke: i've read this article just an hour ago )) [06:49] vdv: then you should have asked for: 'what do people here _prefer_?' instead of 'better than' [06:50] ananke: okay, i've wrongly formulated the question, you are right [06:50] can't go wrong with a $10 watch imo :P [06:51] raela: yes, it just works, and shows the time ) [06:52] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.203) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:52] raela: i hadn't ever watches ) [06:53] hmm IO APIC or no IO APIC [06:53] vdv: eh, they're not for everyone. lots of people just use cell phones for time anyway. I wear mine 24/7 and feel almost naked without one :P [06:55] raela: yes, it's quite useful sometimes, phone is not a good solution [06:58] alphageek, thanx) [07:02] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) left irc: Quit: gogie [07:03] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) joined ##slackware. [07:04] bardo_ (~bardo@89.214.148.201) joined ##slackware. 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[07:41] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB33D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [07:41] there are 2 ppls [07:41] 3 with me [07:42] oxiredo_ro: http://tinyurl.com/245z6z3 [07:42] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:42] yey [07:43] tnx... [07:43] np [07:43] surrounder: :O [07:43] long time no see :D [07:44] haha heya! how long have you been around here? :P [07:44] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:44] my freenode nick is actually ente [07:44] I installed 13.1 on my netbook [07:44] ah nice! [07:44] Action: surrounder should still do that [07:44] and then decided to idle here [07:45] ah cool :) [07:45] not sure if I'll stay at slackware though. but it seems likely [07:45] since I'm nobody who does work twice if it's not required [07:46] and I wouldn't know where else to g [07:46] o [07:46] BSD here if the hardware supports it but most of my personal hardware doesnt [07:46] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB33D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:47] bojevnik (~bojevnik@93-103-134-94.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:47] x-ip (~lain@201.252.209.133) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:48] yeah, I kind of want wifi to work in my netbook :) [07:48] same here [07:48] Well if you have the firmware and drivers why not just install WICD? [07:49] Roin: we're talking about BSD, the driver situation over there is different [07:49] Action: surrounder pets Roin [07:49] Uhm couldnt seethat since I just joined srry [07:49] I need a flexible and lightweight distro, right now my desktop is on crux and my netbook on slack, and I seem to like them both [07:49] Punker (~punker@unaffiliated/punker) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:50] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: No route to host [07:50] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [07:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@97.103.10.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:50] slackin kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: slackin, you've been warned *repeatedly* about that spambot, er, pugbot shit. [07:54] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:54] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [07:54] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.23.115) joined ##slackware. [07:56] edthix (ed@124.13.34.207) left ##slackware. [08:00] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [08:01] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [08:01] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [08:03] sentabi (sentabi@99.198.122.200) joined ##slackware. [08:08] this is ridiculous.. creating a virtual hard disk image in which to create a C:\ volume so that I may create a VHD inside the C:\ volume just so I can then pull the image out and run it natively [08:08] goarilla (~kjp@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:09] FriedBob (~Drinne@c-68-55-75-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [08:09] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [08:10] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:13] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. 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[08:22] Xgates: Flash crashes on many amd cpus [08:22] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/flash-crashes-firefox-on-x86_64/ [08:22] darn flash wouldn't for me in FF [08:22] wouldn't work... [08:22] and you changed the kernel version for that? [08:22] no hehe from x64 to 32 [08:23] ah [08:23] fidesratio (fidesrati@bender.open-source.co.uk) left ##slackware. [08:23] you tried slackbuilds.org's slackbuild [08:23] now I can't get the dang ati drivers to install [08:23] I'm on 64bit and never had troubles [08:23] you need a few simple patches [08:24] yeah I tried slackbuilds and 3-4 different versions of flash [08:24] deja vu! [08:24] sounds like me :P [08:24] what's with this? ----> http://pastebin.com/MATqPNS4 [08:24] I have the correct kernel and mods and source [08:25] zoot_ (~zoot@dsl-145-210-40.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [08:25] hey that looks familiar :) [08:25] Xgates, ls -ld /lib/modules/$(uname -r) [08:25] Xgates, are you installing the patched slackbuild for ati? [08:25] raela: he's still on the same issue, yes [08:25] raela: btw, how long did it take you to install the nvidia drivers already? :P [08:26] no 10.5 it worked fine on x64 [08:26] drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 30 14:22 /lib/modules/2.6.33.4 [08:26] adrien: I never did [08:26] thumbs: the thing he just pasted [08:26] raela: ^^ [08:26] thumbs: I got that error, fixed it, then turned out I needed the slackbuild anyway :P [08:26] Xgates, now try ls -l /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ [08:26] and see where source is linked to [08:27] wertik_ (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [08:27] alisonken1noc: the problem is ati's installer is looking in the wrong place [08:27] k [08:27] build -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.4 [08:27] hi all. i'm having serious issues on a server running slackware 13.0 - anything to do with accessing the filesystem is slow. could anyone comment on the output of: strace vim /etc/rc.d/rc.M which I've pasted here: http://pastie.org/987150 ?? I think the repeats from line 780 might give a clue.... [08:27] source -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.4 [08:28] eddie_grey (~eddie@200-101-194-230.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:28] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Xgates: did you make utsrelease.h? [08:28] I haven't made anything [08:28] /lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp/build/include/linux/utsrelease.h [08:29] #define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.33.4" [08:29] that's what it wants to see [08:29] by the way, this is the error I got which led someone to tell me to transfer /boot/config to the kernel config and make the kernel against my config [08:30] but, I believe using the patched slackbuild tells it to look in the correct place [08:30] as in, http://rapidshare.com/files/384585069/fglrx-8.723.1.tar from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/running-fglrx-with-current-796669/page3.html [08:31] well all I did was install the smp modules that come with 13.1 [08:31] need to edit the ARCH variable [08:32] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] echo "#define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.33.4"" > /lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp/build/include/linux/utsrelease.h [08:32] then try whatever you're doing again [08:32] there isn't a utsrelease.h [08:32] er, you will need to put the quotes in using that echo [08:33] yes that's the point [08:33] do this as root: echo \"#define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.33.4\"" > /lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp/build/include/linux/utsrelease.h [08:33] err wtf I screwed it up again [08:33] raela: dont bother escaping.. just use ' for the echo [08:33] raela: hehe [08:34] Zordrak: I always mix those up.. blah [08:34] thumbs: maybe I should quit while I'm ahead :P [08:34] echo '#define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.33.4"' > /lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp/build/include/linux/utsrelease.h [08:34] it's probably still going to fail, just to let you know [08:34] but it'll get rid of that error at least [08:35] also this leads me to believe you didn't read some docs somewhere: ERROR: i don't have make module [08:36] on arch somewhere there is the latest patch I can just use that and extract the .run and maybe it will work [08:36] my slack is 64 bit, how can i install adobe flash player here/ [08:36] sure, if you can get it to work. do you have something against the slackbuild that has been confirmed to work? [08:37] older version [08:37] and I used the patch eariler that worked just fine [08:37] I just ran the 10.5 installer on a fresh install of slackware 13.1 (32-bit) last night and it built the packages, created the kernel module, and loaded it without any problems. [08:37] You seem to have more problems than would seem normal. [08:37] adrien: hrm, I tried that a few days ago and they wouldn't build [08:38] err [08:38] adamk: [08:38] but I'm fine with the older version [08:38] As I said, 10.5 created packages and installed them (including the kernel module) just fine on a fresh install last night using the huge smp kernel. [08:39] well I'm also an idiot so there's that [08:39] adamk: I just did an install of 13.1 and tried running the installer [08:39] I'll try again tonight [08:39] I haven't done anything to the box yet LOL [08:39] Xgates: he said he built the packages, not ran the installer [08:39] Well, I ran the installer with '--buildpkg Slackware/All' to build packages [08:39] he said he just ran the 10.5 installer [08:40] So I did both. [08:40] raela: -_-" [08:40] :O It /worked/! [08:40] oh wait [08:40] adrien: bah you'll livr [08:40] no [08:40] *live [08:40] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.29.53) joined ##slackware. [08:40] well there is nothing complicated about this, I have both modules packs installed the firmware huge and the source [08:40] Zordrak: bah, don't echo UTS_RELEASE to that folder, just correct the include path, it's pretty easy [08:41] raela: no ='( [08:41] someone should fix this one :P http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/windows-stop-responding-to-keyboard-13-1-a-811438/ [08:41] adrien: i wos just correcting the echo.. i have no idea what was going on with the instructions or the problem [08:41] ok [08:41] raela: ! [08:41] raela: it was you, I saw you! [08:41] adrien: yeah because it happened again -_- [08:41] besically the file was moved from linux/ to generated/ [08:42] oh something else [08:42] adamk: ahhh you had smp huge installed I just have huge [08:43] sheesh we have to use the damm smp kernel [08:43] Action: raela just facepalmed irl -_- [08:43] errrr [08:43] so umm.. I'm going to go now. I'll be back later... [08:43] Xgates: you tried to use the non-smp kernel on a 64bit-capable machine? [08:43] no I'm using x32 [08:44] why would you need to use smp on a 64 bit cpu that is single core, and only one cpu? [08:45] Because maybe hyper threading or something [08:45] But if you want, you can disable it [08:46] I thought hyper is for dual cores [08:46] ... [08:46] But AFAIK, there is no point to do so [08:46] If you're processor is not ancient one [08:46] * your [08:47] Xgates, it is not, it is a feature of one-core intel CPUs [08:47] amd tf-20 fairly recent [08:47] hyperthreading is also availble on multicore processors. [08:47] So there is no point to disable SMP [08:47] Necrosporus: unless you KNOW you need to disable SMP.. do not disable it [08:47] Xgates: read the doc [08:48] Yep [08:48] Urchlay (~dammit@63.98.153.231) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:48] Xgates: you should only use non-smp on <= pentium [08:48] I'm using the SMP kernel on my AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and it always worked without any issues [08:48] pentium 1 or pro [08:48] (can't remember) [08:48] Zordrak++ [08:48] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:49] thanks guys bbl [08:49] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [08:49] sigh [08:49] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:52] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [08:58] zoot_ (~zoot@dsl-145-210-40.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[09:39] nobreak [09:39] still dont understand [09:39] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod [09:39] uninterruptible power suply [09:40] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:40] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply [09:41] yea i know what ups is [09:41] the seagate firmware upgrade isos: http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207951&Hilite= [09:41] i didnt relise that is what you meant though [09:42] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:42] I'm having issues when trying to insert a kernel module: http://dpaste.org/Bbai/ this module is related to sensors, used to work well in slackware 13.0 and even earlier [09:42] i do need an UPS since somtimes elictricity stops for a split second [09:42] be safe using one while upgrade your(s) hd(s) [09:42] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.191.207) left ##slackware. [09:42] ok [09:43] how long does it take to upload the firmware [09:43] few secs [09:43] no fear [09:44] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:44] klein (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) joined ##slackware. [09:44] ok [09:44] I'm using the vanilla packages for kernel and kernel modules from Slackware 13.1, don't think I managed to screw up something [09:44] then it is most likely not a problem for me in reguards to UPS [09:44] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:45] but i think it runs under dos or freedos, so ... [09:46] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [09:46] http://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/5/17/exclusive-seagate-confirms-3tb-drive/ [09:46] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [09:46] slava_ (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [09:48] did you know, that you can install the nvidia binary driver not only for the current kernel, but for any additional ones by passing --kernel-module-only --kernel-name yourcustomkernel to the nvidia installer? I just found out today by launching it with --help just to see what it can do. [09:49] and I used to tell people it was impossible. now I'll know better. [09:49] yes =) [09:50] Punker (~punker@62.43.78.206.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] Punker (~punker@62.43.78.206.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Changing host [09:50] Punker (~punker@unaffiliated/punker) joined ##slackware. [09:50] slava_ (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Client Quit [09:50] hi there [09:50] eddie_grey (~eddie@200-101-194-230.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Saindo [09:51] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@97.103.10.* expired. [09:51] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@97.103.10.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:51] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:52] powtrix, the iso image only has a single exe in it is that what you used [09:52] has me curious how it runs dos [09:52] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [09:52] I used a dos image, 2 years ago [09:53] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [09:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [09:55] http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207957&NewLang=pt [09:55] hiptobecubic (john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left ##slackware ("For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint."). [09:56] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:01] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [10:01] PaddyMac (~patrick@node112.226.100.208.1dial.com) joined ##slackware. [10:03] cool i already burnt it to disk [10:04] it only contains one file [10:04] but i just found out the bootsector is 1.42MB and contains freedos and the firmware [10:04] im backing up first [10:04] anyway [10:04] Punker (~punker@unaffiliated/punker) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:05] its gonna take an hr or so to copy 600+ GB of it [10:48] slackboy joined ##slackware. [10:48] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [10:48] wow [10:48] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:50] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [10:50] I usually prefer making a .txz to make install. [10:50] lol [10:50] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:51] that doesn't make any sense [10:52] why not? [10:52] It does. You'd be surprised to know, how many developers don't add make uninstall in Makefile. [10:52] because xz is so fast! [10:52] Directly installing via make install makes package management exponentially difficult as time goes. [10:52] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.191.207) joined ##slackware. [10:53] ahh, grammar trippage [10:53] translation: he prefers packages over raw 'make install' [10:53] oh, yes :( [10:53] yes, my fault :) [10:53] ^^ [10:54] took me a few reads to figure it out [10:54] prefer A to B means I like A better than B [10:55] right? [10:55] yes, I first read it something like "making a .txz to use make install" [10:55] thrice`: that's how I read it the first time [10:55] you were right, it's still early here I guess :> [10:56] I'm thinking ESL is playing a part, too [10:56] crocket: korea? [10:57] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:57] alphageek : how do you know? [10:57] whois 121.168.91.143 [10:57] It's difficult for me to figure out location with whois [10:59] in answer to your last question (prefer A to B means I like A better than B. right?). yes, that's correct [10:59] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:59] I forgot to duoble quote. [10:59] double quote [11:00] officergris (~officergr@69.76.129.255) joined ##slackware. [11:00] since upgrading to slackware 13.1 I've been having issues with samba connecting to windows shares [11:01] it can list the windows machines, but it can't list any shares that are on the machines (this includes from a samba server running on the network) [11:01] any idea on how to resolve this issue? [11:04] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Have you read slackbook? [11:04] Ps3-Jack_ (~chatzilla@112.135.23.130) joined ##slackware. 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[11:06] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.149) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:06] i don't see how slackbook would help in this case [11:06] indeed [11:07] it's probably more of a 'upgrade major versions of samba' problem, to which the (dated) slackbook won't provide a solution [11:07] Ps3-Jack (~chatzilla@112.135.47.184) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:07] officergris: very recent samba releases have broken some functionality, i've seen it on multiple windows and macosx clients, and i've seen many people on irc complain about the same thing [11:07] Nick change: Ps3-Jack_ -> Ps3-Jack [11:07] officergris: check if you have enabled unix extensions [11:08] ananke: looks like it is. I haven't set it explicitly [11:09] officergris: set 'unix extensions = No' in your smb.conf, see if that will help. [11:09] [it's a global option] [11:09] nothing as annoying as changes in behavior of software in minor versions [11:10] no kidding. doesn't seem to help [11:10] if you like I can post my smb.conf [11:11] certainly, i can take a look, although #samba folks would be a better bet. unix extensions was the first guess [11:11] Maybe just downgrade samba? [11:11] isnt that always the last solution? [11:11] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:11] I'd prefer not to have to downgrade, yeah [11:12] and I was asking over in #samba, but those folks seem to be MIA [11:12] http://pastebin.com/NWtadxdV [11:12] officergris: give them some time. [11:12] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:12] officergris: #samba is a very slow channel. Expect days. [11:13] sahko, it's first solution [11:13] officergris: you may want to try enabling extra debugging, start with log level = 2 [11:13] If there is no security holes [11:13] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Necrosporus: not only this implies security problems, it also means diverging from distro provided software [11:14] ananke, well, I think slack did samba 3.4 -> 3.5, so it was relatively 'major' :) [11:14] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:15] thrice`: samba 3.5.2, yeah [11:15] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:16] ananke: is there a way to get smbtree to dump a log file after I've put that in the config? [11:16] officergris: not sure, i hardly ever use smbtree [it's been years]. the log option i gave you would go to smb.conf, and would take effect right away [11:17] ananke: well yes, I've placed the option in smb.conf, but my issues are all client-side, so I'm not sure if/where the logs for the client applications would get put [11:18] officergris: i know they're client side, but that doesn't mean the server wouldn't be able to log something [11:18] Phuck (~Shitbag@217.175.122.40) joined ##slackware. [11:18] true [11:18] vvor (~vvor@bzq-79-181-41-146.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:20] I didn't have the server running before. I'll see how that goes [11:20] hey guys, is it evil to create a user for FTP access and give them a home directory outside of /home and use the vsftp chroot user option? [11:20] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:21] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:21] antiwire: when youre going to that level of control id recommend an ftp daemon that supports virtual users instead [11:21] danix (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Zordrak: hmm, Thanks I'll check it out [11:22] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [11:22] tflorea (HydraIRC@dhcp184-48-53-140.oakmv.sjc.wayport.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:24] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [11:24] ananke: what's really baffling is that it can't resolve shares on the other linux box, though [11:28] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:31] jstg (~jstg@166.205.140.227) joined ##slackware. [11:31] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:31] tflorea (HydraIRC@dhcp184-48-53-140.oakmv.sjc.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] talk about a sick dream, was in a group of like 20-30 people who went to nasa but in hawaii to learn to fly fighter jets and all 19 people before me crashed, i slowly pieced together they were having us crash and die so they could get insurance $ to continue the space program. [11:31] heh! [11:32] jeev: you could be a screen writer, make big bux :) [11:33] clavius2 (James@172.sub-75-254-219.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:33] jstg (~jstg@166.205.140.227) left irc: Client Quit [11:34] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:34] gnubien, i know.. i've been thinking about writing a comical one to the latest political tragedies in the U.S. for the past decade [11:34] i do have hollywood contacts [11:34] Watching all of Tom Hanks's movies doesn't mean he's your contact. [11:35] uh huh [11:35] straterra, i've got enough oscar winners on my phonebook now (3), 1 is on bbm too. [11:35] in [11:36] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [11:36] tflorea (HydraIRC@dhcp184-48-53-140.oakmv.sjc.wayport.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:37] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:37] jeev: if that insurance plan works for walmart it will work for nasa ;) [11:38] damn, i never recall walmart doing that [11:39] jeev: walmart got lots of bad press for buying insurance policys on its elderly employees [11:40] why would that be necessary though? i mean isn't walmart up there in $ ? [11:40] jeev: with walmart as the beneficiary [11:40] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:40] i remember it's illegal alien or whatever [11:41] cteg_ (~heretic@host-091-097-160-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [11:44] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] cteg (~heretic@dyndsl-085-016-202-053.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:46] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [11:47] Sync__ (~alessio@host94-227-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:47] good evening...anyone could help me setting up my wifi connection? [11:48] What have you done so far? [11:48] possibly :) [11:48] ok...i've just installed slackware 13 [11:48] i'm using wpa_supplicant [11:48] the wireless interface shows up already? [11:49] yes [11:49] its name is eth1 [11:49] that's a nice start :) [11:49] do i have to make a wpa_supplicant.conf for each place i connect? [11:50] you need an entry in wpa_supplicant.conf for each network you plan to use [11:50] not a different file [11:50] ok [11:50] I think you can make one that covers multiple entries [11:50] I have around 30 entries in mine [11:50] thisok [11:50] ok [11:50] so scan_ssid=0 [11:51] ssid the name of my network [11:51] proto WPA RSN? [11:52] Sync__ (alessio@host94-227-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [11:52] ... [11:52] Sync__ (~alessio@host94-227-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:52] proto= WPA RSN? [11:53] i've WPA as encryption mode [11:53] jewbacca (~jewbacca@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:54] leave it [11:55] WPA is for TKIP and RSN is for AES. That is mixed mode and will work fine [11:55] ok [11:55] so proto=WPA RSN [11:55] key_mgmt=WPA-PSK [11:56] pairwise_TKIP [11:56] group=TKIP [11:56] psk="MyKey" [11:56] is this config ok? [11:56] add CCMP to the pairwise and group [11:56] pairwise=CCMP TKIP and group=CCMP TKIP [11:57] ok [11:57] don [11:57] that will make the config more compatible across a wider range of access points. it serves as a better generic template [11:57] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:57] done*...now wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [11:57] psk="ascii key in quotes" OR psk=ENCODED_KEY_NO_QUOTES [11:58] yes [11:58] Phuck (~Shitbag@217.175.122.40) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:58] if i do the wpa_supplicant command it says: Trying to associate ecc ecc [11:58] make sure any existing wpa_supplicant processes are stopped and then rerun it like you pasted. [11:59] than ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]_ Operation not supported [11:59] you can also add -ddd to the command for verbose output [11:59] haha [11:59] Association request to the driver failed [11:59] what is the output of iwconfig? [11:59] pastebin it somewhere [11:59] the eth1 is unassociated [11:59] but if i try to associate it still remains unassociated [12:00] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:00] ch-b (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:01] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] ovnicraft_ (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [12:01] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [12:01] do you understand what problem it is? [12:01] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: No route to host [12:03] not enough information still [12:03] what you need? [12:03] which wifi card/chipset? [12:03] intel [12:03] ipw2100 [12:05] helqg (~slack@188.128.27.54) joined ##slackware. [12:05] Guest9308 (buffer@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [12:06] danix (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: ciau :D [12:06] even if i do: iwconfig eth1 essid "nameOfNetwork" [12:06] if i do iwconfig, eth1 is still unassociated [12:07] if the network us using wpa, that iwconfig command will not associate anything [12:07] so it is ok that the interface remains unassociated... [12:08] That's not what I said [12:08] johndee (~id@95-29-181-73.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:08] ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]_ Operation not supported (is most likely a driver issue) [12:09] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:09] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:09] johndee (~id@95-29-182-75.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:09] Nick change: alema0 -> alema0ff [12:10] mmm don't know how to solve it...i've the ipw2100 instaled and loaded [12:11] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:11] matt0 (matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left ##slackware. [12:16] i can't connect even with the cable [12:18] slysir (~mik@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:18] pastebin us the output of dmesg, ifconfig -a, and iwconfig [12:18] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:19] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [12:19] i'm on another computer..tell me what you need to know and i'll do [12:19] i can't use pastebin [12:20] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-nlmbjgthftxjeuam) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:20] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:20] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-xrmhrugirqmxzvsz) joined ##slackware. [12:22] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [12:25] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:25] Vanger (~Vanger@80.91.178.197) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [12:26] pheraps it could be the ipv6? [12:26] on eth0 it says Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ... inet6 addr: [12:27] no that shouldn't affect it [12:27] dude [12:27] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [12:28] should I change distro? :D [12:28] er.. no [12:31] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [12:32] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:32] Hey guys, it's time to don the tin-foil hats for a second ^^ [12:33] i'm planning to give my old PC to a friend, but I don't want to risk data recovery, is 1 pass of random data and 1 pass zeroes enough? :P [12:33] zeroes are enough [12:34] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:34] anyone can solve my problem? [12:35] NthDegree: one pass of either is sufficient [12:35] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:35] i'll just zero it then ^^ [12:36] NthDegree: shred -z -n 0 -v /dev/yourdevice [12:36] yeah, 'tis what i'm using now [12:38] i solved -.- [12:38] the problem SEEMS to be that the key was uppercase [12:38] i switch it tu lowcase and seems to work [12:42] how safe/reliable is hotplugging with SATA these days? [12:43] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.35.22) joined ##slackware. [12:43] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:45] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:45] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:46] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:46] at home im going to setup my DNS like: [12:46] 1.. from the outside = blabla.org [12:46] 2.. from inside my network = blabla.local [12:46] do you think that is a good idea? [12:47] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:47] ch-b (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Quit: inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris [12:48] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:51] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:52] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [12:52] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [12:53] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-227.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:55] gah, he just left [12:57] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:58] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:58] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.191.207) left ##slackware. [12:59] jerware (~I@70.44.72.133.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] bind9 views was the best solution! [13:00] Whats a partitioning program for slackware users ? [13:00] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.235.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:00] fdisk, cfdisk, parted? [13:00] cfdisk? [13:01] sfdisk [13:01] diskmgmt.msc [13:01] cat >/dev/sda and enter everything by hand [13:01] yah cfdisk. it adds some curses menus, makes it a little easier to use than fdisk [13:01] how about one with a gui [13:01] I bet emacs has some M-x fdisk-mode [13:01] i'll look at cfdisk [13:01] AppDeb (~AppDeb@77.49.146.66.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:01] stomper (~stomper@196-51.adsl.umnet.umich.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:01] cfdisk is fairly easy to use [13:02] indeed it is [13:02] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] fdisk isnt difficult to use as well, but it is easy to loos the overview and do something wrong with it I think [13:02] loose* [13:02] and I trust it more than parted/libparted [13:02] I never used any of the others, except if cfdisk didn't work because the partition table was broken or something [13:02] adrien: why? [13:02] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:02] thanks folks [13:02] yw [13:03] you could also use a live cd with gparted [13:03] and partition beforehand [13:03] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:04] n0nsense: sometimes been unreliable for me (a few years ago), I think it's ok now but there's also that annoying part that it doesn't support the same set of features for all filesystems and you might end up stuck by surprise [13:04] (unsupported options on ext* especially) [13:04] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [13:05] well... [13:05] parted is GNU software [13:05] what do you expect? :) [13:05] PaddyMac (~patrick@node112.226.100.208.1dial.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:07] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:08] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.191.207) joined ##slackware. [13:10] hi, will grub works as usual if i will install slackware? [13:11] who wants grub anyway? [13:11] there's syslinux on the CD [13:11] which also provides extlinux, which is the best bootloader I've ever seen [13:12] extlinux? [13:12] I just use LILO ._. [13:12] Aidar-Nagato: Yes, if you install slackware, you will be prompted to install lilo, but you can choose to install it to the root partition of your slackware installation instead of the master boot record (which, presumably, is where you have grub installed). [13:13] adamk, thanx) [13:13] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.191.207) left ##slackware. [13:13] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [13:13] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:15] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:16] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:16] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] i am setting up bind9 on slackware [13:18] /var/named/caching-example <--- should i rename this directory [13:18] or is 'caching-example' a official term?! [13:18] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-227.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:20] guys can you test this, if I su to root with "su -" and execute slackpkg upgrade-all, there is an error, do you know why? [13:20] of course, we saw the error in our crystal ball [13:21] officergris (~officergr@69.76.129.255) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:21] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:21] I always get "try again later" [13:21] sahko, ok it is: comm: file 2 is not in sorted order [13:22] n0nsense (~ente@unaffiliated/n0nsense) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [13:22] n0nsense (~ente@barfooze.de) joined ##slackware. [13:22] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:22] n0nsense (~ente@barfooze.de) left irc: Changing host [13:22] n0nsense (~ente@unaffiliated/n0nsense) joined ##slackware. [13:22] it happens only I su to root with "su -", not just "su" [13:22] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [13:23] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-226.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] my god [13:24] one learns something everyday [13:24] vim scp://user@remote//path/to/file <-- edit a remote file with vim [13:25] Sync__ (~alessio@host94-227-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [13:26] AppDeb: theres probably something wrong with coreutils? [13:27] dustybin: that's stupid [13:27] sahko, using just "su" it works without errors as it preserves the users environment? [13:27] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:27] I hope it invokes ssh internally [13:27] sahko, why would that be problem with coreutils btw? [13:27] otherwise hope is lost and vim has become emacs [13:27] plus, there's sshfs [13:28] i dont know, i dont use slackpkg. i meant with coreutils and your root environment [13:28] dustybin, does it work with sftp:// ? [13:29] i havent tried yet [13:29] jerware (~I@70.44.72.133.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:30] slysir (~mik@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3900, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-02-15 08:38:32 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [13:31] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:31] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.224) joined ##slackware. [13:31] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [13:31] which package would give me the dig command? i've tried bind-utils and dns-utils on sbopkg search, but no success :-( [13:32] <|Slacker|> ok...how do I run the bluez daemon on slack 13.1? [13:32] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [13:32] njathan, 'htdig' ? [13:32] njathan: bind. [13:32] |Slacker|, /etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth start [13:32] <|Slacker|> AppDeb, thanbks [13:32] I mean, bind :) [13:33] If you install bind from the DVD/CD, /usr/bin/dig is part of it. [13:33] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:33] njathan, slackpkg has a nice search feature fwiw [13:36] thrice`, you can call me a newbie at slackware.... :-p this is the first time i hear of slackpkg. when i had last used 12.2, people had directed me towards sbopkg... so was still continuing with that [13:37] njathan, ok, slackpkg works with official slackware packages, sbopkg is for stuff not shipped with slackware [13:37] hey thanks for the tip thrice` [13:38] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] more specifically, sbopkg is a 'front end' to slackbuilds.org. sbopkg has no repos itself. it is only a tool to use with slackbuilds.org. 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[13:49] Hi [13:49] how can i install firezilla? it isn't at the sbopkg repositories and neither at the slackpkg ones... [13:49] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.20.96) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:50] auska: its in the slackbuilds.org site [13:50] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/filezilla/ [13:51] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [13:51] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:52] auska, also, you should understand exactly what sbopkg and slackpkg ARE, rather than just considering them 'repositories' [13:53] thrice`, aren't they like the yum or the apt-get that let me to take the source from a server? [13:53] Not..really [13:53] auska: neiethr yum nor apt-get deal directly with sources [13:54] i know that those have the binary code... but was in order to make me understandable [13:55] well, that failed... have another try :) [13:56] haha [13:56] lol... what? [13:57] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-226.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:57] auska, no. slackpkg is just a nice wrapper to the official slackware repository for packages. kinda like apt-get, I suppose. sbopkg is a front-end to an un-official repositories of slackbuild scripts, at slackbuilds.org [13:58] so, if your app doesn't exist in slackware, slackpkg won't do anything for you :) [13:58] aha.. [13:58] i have read this, however, it does not tell me how i can start a service at boot time [13:58] http://www.slackware.com/config/init.php [13:58] i need to auto start services like postfix + dovecot [13:58] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-175.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] dustybin, if it's an 'official' service (one that Pat provides), the init script in /etc/rc.d with a +x will do it. if it's NOT, best practice is to create an init script, and call it from rc.local [13:59] thrice`: i installed a slackbuild so hopefully it created one [13:59] looks like it :) [13:59] wow +x is that all [14:00] thrice`, thanks for the explanation ;) [14:00] excellent [14:00] rc.postfix [14:00] auska: sbopkg != slackbuilds.org. as thrice` has mentioned, slackbuilds.org is a repo of third-party slackbuild scripts. sbopkg is a tool to interface with slackbuilds.org [14:00] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1442 May 31 22:43 rc.postfix [14:01] so why didnt that start at boot time.. [14:01] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1474 May 31 20:22 rc.dovecot [14:01] aha i understand... thanks! [14:03] dustybin, everything in /etc/rc.d will not start by default, only things that Pat hard-codes into the system init [14:03] for extras like that, rc.local is a good place [14:03] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [14:03] mgt (~slack@93.152.158.243) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:04] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:04] nvision (~nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [14:06] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:07] mgt (~slack@93.152.158.243) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) joined ##slackware. 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[14:34] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.28.115) got lost in the net-split. [14:34] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) got lost in the net-split. [14:34] masterslakk (~mastersla@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) got lost in the net-split. [14:34] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) got lost in the net-split. [14:34] nvision (~nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:35] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [14:37] i just crashed slack o.0 [14:37] Arno[Slack] (~arno@81.57.177.108) joined ##slackware. [14:38] forcably removed ipv6 module, and the kernel stack fell over but not before a kde system notifaction telling me so =P [14:38] phrag, you should probably go back to fedora :) [14:39] how so? [14:39] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 259 seconds [14:39] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [14:39] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.224) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:41] jeev: i dont recall ever using fedora, so whats your point? [14:41] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:41] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:42] barry_u (~barry@212.183.140.48) joined ##slackware. [14:42] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] nogagplz_ (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-138-91.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] not sure he's making any :P [14:44] damn space key is dying =/ [14:45] ive installed slackware 13.1 and using vmlinuz-generic-2.6.33.4 ...im trying compile madwifi svn but it keeps installing the module to smp kernel ? ive tried make KERNELPATH=/usr/src/linux-2.6.33.4 but no success ? [14:46] should i have put linux-generic-2.6.33.4 ? [14:46] barry_u, any reason you don't use the -smp kernel, out of curiosity? [14:47] unrelated to your question, I know [14:47] i was told smp kernel was for multi core ? [14:47] yes, but most procs can use that kernel, if recent enough [14:47] with newer hardware these days.. running the -smp just makes sense anyway.. even if you don't have multi-CPU/core [14:48] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:48] *not* using it is actually trickier, as you're experiencing [14:48] oh right ill go back to smp then [14:48] Action: Dominian nods [14:48] be sure to re-build your initrd.gz [14:49] maybe they should be renamed -smp -> nothing special and non-smp to pre-pentium or something like that [14:49] wow KDE SC 4.4.4 released [14:49] barry_u, otherwise, something like this might help you: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.1/extra/linux-2.6.33.4-nosmp-sdk/README.TXT [14:49] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:50] i'd try to use the -smp first. i think the installer actually boots the hugesmp by default (?), so if you didn't have trouble there, it should work :) [14:51] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [14:51] it didnt have initrd before i only used it cause im using reiserfs thrice` [14:51] when using the non smp kernel [14:51] then you're not using generic [14:52] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:52] barry_u, then you're not on the generic :) [14:52] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 May 31 19:24 /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp [14:53] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-45-38-91.ip100.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:54] on debian i used a tool called 'maildirmake.courier' to create a courier-imap mail box, im now using slackware + dovecot, but i cannot locate maildirmake.dovecot [14:55] 2.6.33.4 #1 Wed May 12 23:58:41 CDT 2010 i686 Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [14:55] thats not generic thrice` ? [15:00] barry_u, vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp . are you asking if 'huge' is actually 'generic' ? :p [15:01] no i thought they were different [15:01] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:01] they are [15:01] there is one that says 'generic' in it, and one that says 'huge' in it. 'huge' means that it is the 'huge' kernel, and 'generic' means it is the 'generic' kernel [15:01] see how that works? :o [15:02] image = /boot/vmlinuz-generic-2.6.33.4 ? [15:02] gp5st (~gp5st@CMU-277558.WV.CC.CMU.EDU) joined ##slackware. [15:03] that's the worst question i've ever seen [15:03] btw, has anyone noticed how when you run a kde4 app, all the kde machinery (kdeinit4, knotify4, etc) starts up but STAYS even when the kde app is closed? it's like a virus! [15:03] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:03] thrice`: i haven't even asked yet:( [15:03] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] mancha: makes it faster for them to load next time :P [15:03] gp5st, :) [15:04] ok im sticking with smp :| [15:04] except some of those daemons use resources even when you don't open a kde4 app again, specifically kdenotify keeps burping messages [15:04] barry_u, ok, they are unrelated. the huge kernel has a non-smp and an -smp version. the generic kernel has an -smp and non-smp version as well, meaning 4 kernels in total [15:04] daemons are evil [15:05] hello. I'm very new to slackware. I have a box that i ifconfig eth0 up, since there was only lo listed. I did dhclient eth0 and it tells me that it doesn't think eth0 exists. any suggestions? [15:05] so slack default kernel will work fine with my machine thrice` [15:05] it did before but i was to use the generic kernel [15:06] was told* [15:06] gp5st: tell the exact error message [15:06] barry_u, the default kernel is hugesmp, but it's recommended to use generic-smp for everyday use. I don't recommend that for you, since you can't read the difference between 'generic' and 'huge' :p just stick to the default [15:06] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [15:06] gp5st you should read a basic networking in linux guide. if eth0 is not configured you cannot bring it up if it is not up you can't run a dhcp client over it [15:07] ok i will ...ill have to read up on it [15:07] gp5st: type ifconfig -a to see which ifaces you have actually configured [15:07] Nigromante: mancha: let me get the exact error. i brought eth0 up; i can see it's mac address in ifconfig [15:08] so first things first, is there a module loaded for eth0? [15:08] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:08] ifconfig -a ? [15:08] ok, so you do have a live NIC then, yes please paste the following output: a) ifconfig (once it is up) [15:08] mancha: i can't [15:08] it's a different computer [15:09] and this is a networking issue... [15:09] ? [15:09] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [15:09] so dhclient says eth0 not found [15:09] do you have a HW addr (ie MAC) for eth0? when you do ifconfig? [15:09] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:09] thrice is it possible on install to select kernels ? [15:10] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [15:10] mancha: Nigromante: ifconfig -a lists eth0/eth1/lo/sit0 [15:10] also, try "dhcpcd -d eth0" [15:11] ok, and HWaddr for eth0 ? [15:11] im trying to get 13.1 installed on my netbook from a usb stick but it keeps hanging :( [15:11] SlackRat (~jibril@212.98.139.21) joined ##slackware. [15:11] i_is_cat: in which phase? [15:11] gets to triggering udev events and just sits there [15:12] gp5st: ifconfig eth0 up && dhcpcd -d eth0 [15:12] yes, both eth0 and eth1 have differnt (though similar) hwarrd mancha [15:12] hold on [15:12] it's a different computer with no monitor but a projector that you can't see from the keyboard; it's all kinds of not set up right:-\ [15:12] i thought maybe the dvd iso was corrupt so i checked the md5sum looks good.. i tried a different usb stick and port but it didnt help.. [15:13] mancha: it says dhcpcd: MAC address: [15:13] phrag: ditto [15:14] i_is_cat: how did you try to boot the iso from usb? [15:14] no errors? [15:14] though it didn't dćmonize it, it [15:14] no, just that line and it's sitting there [15:14] no i used alienBOB's usb script [15:14] no output? [15:14] ah, it returned to the prompt now, no errors [15:14] he has many. which one? [15:14] just that one line, phrag telling me the mac address [15:14] ok, can you ifconfig now? [15:14] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:15] and let me know if you have a good ip? [15:15] it worked awesome the last time i did it.. but i think that was with 13.0 [15:15] phrag: mancha ifconfig doesn't report an ip address [15:15] mancha: i could always ifconfig [15:15] gp5st: try to increase dhcp timeout [15:16] i don't know how to do that unless it's an option to dhcpcd [15:16] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [15:16] and the dhcp servers here are fast to respond from experience with other machines [15:16] ok [15:16] ok, let's go back to basics. [15:17] is the NIC working? [15:17] does it have a cable connected...? [15:17] the nic seems to be up, but dhcp is not working... check the light on the ethernet port [15:17] do you see the right LEDs lit up on the connectors (both side [15:17] etc [15:17] mancha: it assigned eth1 an ip, though i didn't specify it to dhcpcd [15:18] what is eth1 (another nic)? [15:18] and the computer is in a cabinet, i can't even see if it is connected properly:-\ [15:18] sahko, the latest one.. it came with 13.1 [15:18] mancha: i don't know if it's a physical or logical one [15:18] gp5st well i can't help if you can answer these basic things, like "is the cable connected" :) [15:19] ping me when you can... [15:19] if you can't, i mean [15:19] mancha: :-p i have an ip address now, and can ping other computers from it [15:19] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] thanks, i didn't know about dhcpcd; i do more work on debian boxes [15:19] welcome. [15:19] man dhcpcd [15:20] bobnet (~bobnet@189-18-195-93.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:20] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:20] gp5st: you should configure your interfaces in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [15:20] hi [15:20] algum brasileito por aqqui [15:20] hello [15:20] gp5st: and use /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 {start,stop,restart} [15:20] algum brasileiro por aqui [15:21] bobnet: english only please [15:21] ok [15:21] brasilian boy here [15:21] ? [15:21] Nur Anglisch, bitte [15:21] good wiki page from alien bob on rc.inet1 and slack.... [15:21] try ##slackware-br [15:22] ah, phrag, i wasn't sure where they went in slackware [15:22] ok tanks [15:22] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:22] i have a problem with firefox after upgrading kernel from 2.6.30 2.6.34 [15:23] the problem is that firefox is always "on top" now [15:23] and takes almost always > 30% cpu [15:23] 2.6.*34*? [15:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:23] adrien: yes [15:23] gp5st: simply setting USE_DHCP="yes" for the appropriate device section is enough to configure in most cases [15:23] that wasn't the case before kernel upgrade [15:24] check for flash in firefox, and well, unfortunately, firefox is a bitch when it comes to respecting window manager hints (placement and others) [15:24] i think mozilla paid the kernel devs to do that. they re evil [15:24] but the lik is weird [15:24] link*/relationship* [15:24] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] yes, flash may be causing problems [15:24] i'll disable plugin and look what happens [15:25] running kde? [15:25] Nigromante: yes [15:25] ah ok [15:25] Nigromante: 3.5 [15:25] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:25] then it is 90% prob flash [15:26] which firefox? [15:26] 3.5? why not 3.6? [15:26] ah, no, ok [15:26] and kernel 2.6.34, that's starting to be a weird combination [15:26] Gargantua (~sk@213.188.71.172) joined ##slackware. [15:26] I get this error when I try to open a X11 app by ssh. Error: no display specified [15:27] good old Azeotrope [15:27] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:27] Nigromante: 3.6.3 [15:27] ah ok [15:27] huh? [15:27] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB33D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya all [15:27] Azeotrope: DISPLAY=0:0 app [15:28] Azeotrope: do you run app under root? [15:28] vdv: id try kde 4 in 13.1 it seems to have been improved, compared to that in slack 13.0 [15:28] vdv: nop [15:28] hmmm i just tried the usbboot.img to see if i could install through nfs and the usbboot.img is also hanging on the triggering udev events part same as the usbimg2disk.sh one did [15:28] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:28] Nigromante: only 2Gb RAM [15:28] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [15:29] vdv: Error: cannot open display: 0:0 [15:29] Nigromante: kde4 just kills my laptop [15:29] try xfce then ? [15:29] Nigromante: i've used to kde [15:29] ok [15:29] Azeotrope: ps ax | grep X [15:29] i_is_cat: do you a slackware source tree? [15:30] i use the dvd iso [15:30] e01 (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] you could try isohybrid [15:30] vdv browse linuxquestions, i dont remember if there was a trick for flash and firefox in 3.5 [15:31] but havent tested it on the Slackware iso yet [15:31] i guess you had to stick to flash 9x [15:31] Nigromante: ok [15:31] slysir (~mik@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3900, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-02-15 08:38:32 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [15:31] i dont understand why the previous version had no issues but this one wont even boot up enough to let me do anything :S [15:31] Nigromante: i've disabled plugin, and restarted firefox too [15:32] ok good luck [15:32] i_is_cat: with me its the other way around:) [15:32] vdv: http://pastebin.com/9JPFcgrS [15:32] gbye all [15:32] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:32] thumbs: you're thumbs from #httpd? [15:32] haha [15:32] well your way sounds better to me sahko.. im almost ready to try ubuntu or some other piece of crap [15:33] Azeotrope: /whois [15:33] Azeotrope: you have three instance of X?? [15:33] Azeotrope: think it's strange [15:33] vdv: i don't know why. [15:33] sometimes i have three instances of X [15:33] i_is_cat: kdm? [15:33] i_is_cat: if you have space try copying slackware.iso to some other location, exec isohybrid slackware.iso and try dd it to /dev/sdb or whats the device name [15:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] bobnet (~bobnet@189-18-195-93.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:34] Azeotrope: can you just leave X'es and do startx again? [15:34] guys where can i find microsoft fonts for slackware? [15:34] that only works with syslinux>=3.82 so it wont work on Slackware 13.0 though [15:34] gp5st (gp5st@CMU-277558.WV.CC.CMU.EDU) left ##slackware. [15:35] v4nelle: slackbuilds.org has webcore-fonts [15:35] i prefer that over the .exe crap [15:35] well my issue is getting slackware 13.1 to boot up so that i can install it.. so if its not going to work.. [15:35] vdv: i'm sshing in. also, I remember that my user was left logged in then another user started a new GUI session [15:35] ok sahko ...thx [15:35] clavius (James@232.sub-75-235-233.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [15:35] e01_ (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] slackbuilds would be your best bet for the fonts [15:36] places like linuxpackages isn´t supported [15:36] or just copying the files in /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ [15:36] Azeotrope: ah, you want connect to remote X [15:37] vdv: yea, i want to start thunderbird [15:37] e01 (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:37] Azeotrope: i think xhost+ must be runned locally on that pc [15:37] re-running mkfontdir , iir, afterwards.... [15:37] Azeotrope: connection to X is forbidden by default [15:38] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-55-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Azeotrope: ask somebody to add your ip to allowed hosts [15:38] Azeotrope: that must be done locally, on the host where X runs [15:39] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:39] vdv: what? why? i just want to start thunderbird and have it displayed on this win machine with Xming server on it [15:40] Azeotrope: as far as i know, it's not possible by default, i do always "xhost +" before i connect remotely to X [15:40] ok i guess i'll try using the usb installed from an older version of slackware then.. [15:40] installer* [15:40] Azeotrope: maybe i'm wrong, i don't know [15:40] If you use ssh X formwarding, you don't need to use xhost [15:40] nvision (~nvision@e179139129.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:41] well, i have all sshd settings ok, the X server here is running but i keep getting those errors [15:41] hey guys.. offtopic but I discovered something scary [15:42] Azeotrope: is ssh X forwarding enabled on your ssh client? [15:42] Canonical is of the opinion that 64-bit is "Not recommended for daily desktop usage" [15:42] Gargantua (~sk@213.188.71.172) left irc: Quit: Disconnected due to burnt internet wires [15:42] http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download <-- seriously? O_o WTF? [15:42] vdv: yes [15:43] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:43] adamk: then it should just work, without DISPLAY env variable [15:43] Azeotrope: You're ssh'ing in from a termianl in the X session on the windows box? [15:43] Canonical is also of the opinion that stupidity is a virtue [15:43] adamk: i use putty and Xming [15:44] They market ubuntu to everybody though. [15:44] i thought VSFTP was one of the best ftp clients, but no sign of a slackbuild? [15:44] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:44] *server [15:44] There are quite a few idiots using that OS [15:44] Azeotrope: I'm not sure that will work. [15:44] Maybe it's because Ubuntu people use 32bit apps such as Notepad and Internet Explorer. 64bit would make this a PITA. [15:44] Are you sure putty understands X forwarding? [15:45] I've only done it with cygwin [15:45] Azeotrope: from the sounds of it, you are trying to display X11 app on a window machine via ssh -X... what will nto work, use a VNC [15:45] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:45] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Quit: inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris [15:45] It will work fine. [15:45] At least with cygwin. [15:45] Just try and suggest an Experienced Users forum in their forums tho.....they get feral [15:45] not with putty it wony [15:45] As long as the ssh client knows how to do X11 forwarding, and is started from an X session. [15:45] phrag, adamk I tried it before on many times and it worked fine [15:45] Then just do what do you did before and stop asking questions :-) [15:45] fair do's.. i dont use windows [15:46] now i just got stuck into this error after playing with set DISPLAY [15:46] Azeotrope: set DISPLAY="" [15:46] Azeotrope: export DISPLAY="" [15:47] Azeotrope: just unset that variable [15:47] oh its ready installed [15:47] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Azeotrope: echo $DISPLAY should return empty [15:49] vdv: it does [15:49] Azeotrope: and you still can't connect? [15:50] barry_u (~barry@212.183.140.48) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:50] Azeotrope: try to logout and login again [15:50] v4nelle (~van@79.107.210.228) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:50] Azeotrope: what means "i've played with set DISPLAY"? [15:51] vdv: nope. [15:51] i did a set DISPLAY 0:0 [15:52] Azeotrope: did tried to relogin? [15:52] export DISPLAY=:0 [15:52] SlackRat (jibril@212.98.139.21) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:53] Azeotrope: i give up ) have no further ideas ) [15:53] damnit! i dont have an older version of slackware on my drives :/ [15:53] vdv: ok, thans for the help [15:53] s/thans/thanks [15:55] hmm... by the way. If I want to use my local machine's IP address for IRC let's say but I don't want to install xchat or so, what should I do. I mean like a tunnel to my remote machine where I have xchat [15:59] v4nelle (~van@79.107.210.228) joined ##slackware. [16:00] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:00] jacktrust (~backup@cpe-075-176-187-163.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:01] Nick change: dive -> dawoodfall [16:01] juan--d-1-b (~Juan@186.28.15.158) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Nick change: dawoodfall -> dive [16:02] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Changing host [16:02] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Nick change: dive -> dawoodfall [16:02] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [16:04] Azeotrope: how about nx? altho if you dont want xchat installed there you can use some sort of a bouncer or something like that.. [16:06] nice. thanks [16:06] seems i have 2 Xes running. Any idea how could that happen? [16:06] 2017 root 20 0 283m 182m 12m S 4 4.6 142:44.16 X [16:06] 14382 root 20 0 139m 54m 12m S 2 1.4 14:23.79 X [16:06] Nick change: dawoodfall -> dive [16:07] Azeotrope, easy [16:07] if you are switching users [16:07] Azeotrope: Using fglrx? [16:07] then two X servers run [16:07] one for each session [16:07] NthDegree: thank you. didn't know that each user starts it's own X session [16:08] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:08] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:09] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-55-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [16:10] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [16:10] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@186.28.15.158) left irc: Changing host [16:10] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [16:12] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:13] juan--d-1-b (~Juan@201.244.233.52) joined ##slackware. [16:13] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Disconnected by services [16:13] sentabi (sentabi@99.198.122.200) left irc: Changing host [16:13] sentabi (sentabi@unaffiliated/sentabi) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [16:14] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@201.244.233.52) left irc: Changing host [16:14] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [16:16] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:17] So I have a 64-bit installation of 13.1 that I've made multilib. I went to install xbindkeys from SBo, but I'm getting "error: C compiler cannot create executables" [16:17] The full error from config.log is: http://pastebin.com/QxRv3x4u [16:17] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Any thoughts? [16:18] adamk: "gcc -O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686" << you have left the ARCH value at i486 [16:19] danix (1000@host143-49-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:19] so im trying the old create multipart script instead and its failing on line 127 repeatedly :S [16:19] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:19] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:19] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:20] i_is_cat: I no longer maintain it, but it should work for Slackware 13.0 and older [16:20] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [16:20] run it like: ARCH=i486 ./xbindkeys.SlackBuild [16:20] trying for 13.1 [16:20] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-55-215.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:20] it wont boot up on my netbook from usb :( [16:20] There is a better script now [16:20] i tried the newer one first [16:20] thats the one that wont load [16:21] The usbimg2disk.sh script? [16:21] yep [16:21] it gets here: Triggering udev events: /sbin/udevadm trigger ?action=add [16:21] then it hangs [16:21] Will it boot when you "dd" the usbboot.img directly to a USB stick? [16:21] jewbacca (~jewbacca@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:21] Ah [16:21] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) joined ##slackware. [16:21] same thing when i tried just the usbboot.img [16:22] Well that is not a problem with the way the USB disk was created. It is a bad interaction between the SLackware installer and your hardware [16:22] grazymax (~grazymax@host218-134-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:22] You _can_ try booting with the "nousb" parameter right after typing "hugesmp.s" [16:22] Sorry... I meant "noudev" [16:23] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [16:23] hmm ok i will see if that helps [16:23] danix (1000@host143-49-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [16:24] andyr0ck (~andyr0ck@cpc3-leed10-0-0-cust684.leed.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:24] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:25] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:25] alienBOB: Hmmm... I don't have ARCH set anywhere, as far as I can tell. [16:25] The script has it set somewhere at the top [16:25] Ahhhh. [16:25] Well that's silly :-) [16:25] no, it's a sane default ;) [16:26] Is this new? I didn't have to edit any slackbuild scripts in 13.0? [16:26] you didn't export ARCH on 13.0? [16:26] Hmmm... Oh, good question. [16:26] Maybe I did. [16:27] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:27] Alright, after setting ARCH=x86_64 it worked. [16:27] Since 64bits is superiour to 32bits, I think the default ARCH in slackbuilds should be x86_64! [16:27] All in favor, say aye! [16:27] what's the proper way to blacklist a module in slackware? is it just adding something to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf? [16:28] I prefer 32 bit ;/ [16:28] I have a /usr/local/bin/build with exports MAKEFLAGS="-j3"; ARCH="x86_64" sh *.SlackBuild [16:28] and then I just call 'build' in the directory [16:28] ang: You should create a new .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/ so that your changes don't get overwritten during upgrades. [16:28] i need to blacklist the radeon module [16:28] why not put the variables in .profile since you're always gonna wanna use 'em [16:29] because 'build' is still shorter than "./app.SlackBuild" :) [16:29] masterslakk (~mastersla@99.30.144.105) joined ##slackware. [16:29] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:30] ang: Why do you need to do that? It shouldn't get loaded until X starts, and only if X loads the 2D Xorg radeon driver. [16:30] because with it, not a single jpg displays properly. everything is a black box [16:30] blacklisting radeon won't solve that, though [16:31] if i physically mv it out of the way, everything is fine [16:31] OK, but, just so you know, you'll be disabling 3D acceleration and maybe even 2D acceleration depending on the GPU. [16:31] or i get other weird issues like: http://ab7.org/ss.png [16:32] you're on 13.1 ang ? [16:33] yes....fresh install on a second disk [16:34] well, at the moment i'm on 10.2, but i have 13.1 on a seperate disk [16:34] andyr0ck (~andyr0ck@cpc3-leed10-0-0-cust684.leed.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:36] the annoying thing is it works perfectly fine when with ubuntu 10.04, so i'm not sure what the problem is [16:36] ang: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file from when you're having this problem? [16:36] jewbacca (~jewbacca@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:36] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:37] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-76-202.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:37] ang, both use the same -ati + x-server series, I think, so maybe it's somethign simple [16:38] adamk: sure, let me reboot and grab a fresh log [16:39] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:39] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:41] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] adamk: http://ab7.org/Xorg.0.log [16:45] Hmm... This is indeed odd. [16:46] Nothing in there jumps out at me. [16:46] yeah. i don't get it [16:46] ZenWalker (~r00t@unaffiliated/zenwalker) joined ##slackware. [16:46] ZenWalker (r00t@unaffiliated/zenwalker) left ##slackware. [16:47] Just so I understand what's going on... Can you explain exactly what's going on in that screens? [16:47] doesn't radeon have a nice irc channel? :> [16:47] screenshot, rather. [16:47] They do, yes. [16:48] adamk, the background wallpaper is messed up. firefox shows what it should look like [16:48] however, if I used xv to view any jpg, it's just a black box [16:48] Nick change: get -> Get|Off [16:48] Nick change: Get|Off -> get [16:49] Does this happen even without an xorg.conf file? [16:49] yep [16:49] get: disable that please, you've been asked before [16:50] ang: Well there's only one thing I can think of to test... Can you add this line to the Device section of your xorg.conf file and restart X: [16:50] Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" [16:50] sure [16:50] shyko_ (~shyko@187.39.212.216) joined ##slackware. [16:50] I'm *guessing* that this is an EXA specific issue. [16:51] IF this helps, it's really only a workaround and I suggest taking it up with the (usually) helpful folks on #radeon [16:52] ok, brb [16:52] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:52] officergris (~officergr@cpe-69-76-129-255.kc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] shyko_ (~shyko@187.39.212.216) left irc: Client Quit [16:54] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:55] ive used lots of the filesystems and havent noticed much of a difference in the things i do personally, but just wondering what ppl would recommend for the root partition filesystem.. [16:55] danix (1000@host143-49-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:57] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] adamk, that did the trick [16:57] ang: OK, well that's a better workaround than disabling direct rendering, but it is still just a workaround. [16:58] EXA should work, and it should be faster than XAA at 2D operations. [16:58] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:58] so EXA is the default? [16:58] Yes, for a little while. [16:59] meego adopted btrfs as the official fs :) [17:00] i first noticed the issue on a fresh install when i fired up X with kde as the WM and the startup graphic that shows you the progress of the start up wouldn't draw the devices as it started up. then when it finished, the wallpaper was completely black [17:00] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:01] ext4 was the default choice and i havent used it before so ext4 is my root partitions filesystem now [17:02] and alienBOB's noudev thing worked very well im installing now :) thanks alienBOB [17:02] adamk, i wasn't sre if it was the driver or my hardware, but after testing it out with the ubuntu 10.04 disk where it works fine, i had to suspect that radeon module [17:02] ext4 is pretty good, it improves on a lot of ext3's performance shortfalls but introduces slightly increased data loss potential [17:02] anyone using skype on 13.1? Working? Not working? [17:03] i'm used to using reiserfs and xfs for my filesystems usually.. [17:03] dive: I have skype working fine [17:03] how is reiserfs doing now that hans is in jail, anyway? I haven't been keeping up on it [17:03] dive: 32 bit on two different laptops [17:03] raela, version from sbo? [17:03] dive: sbo ships with the dynamic - you need to get the static [17:03] raela, crashing here as soon as I click chat button [17:04] raela, I tried it - same [17:04] dive: yeah same thing happened.. either version works as long as it's static [17:04] crap.. a corrupt package [17:04] dive: try the beta then [17:04] hmm I will try it again perhaps [17:04] wow.. a whole pile of corrupt packages.. damn [17:04] or get my buntard friend to use pidgin + XMMP [17:04] dive: I have 2.1.0.81 on this one [17:04] er XMPP [17:04] raela, ok I will try again [17:04] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_chrr [17:07] ovnicraft_ (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [17:07] raela, did you have to do anything special with the slackbuild? (apart from version) [17:07] adamk, thanks again, I will followup on #radeon later and see what they say [17:08] dive: I think the slackbuild was being a pita so I just copied the binary [17:08] dive: the slackbuild does something to the binary.. strips it I think? [17:08] ang: No problem. Glad to help. [17:08] dive: and whatever it does breaks it [17:08] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-210.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:08] hmm ok [17:09] klein (klein@unaffiliated/klein) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:09] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [17:09] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-xrmhrugirqmxzvsz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:10] adamk, still baffled as to the difference under ubuntu...will need to investigate that a bit more too [17:10] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-94-244.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) left irc: Quit: life is but a dream [17:14] hrad (~a@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [17:14] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [17:14] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] where can I set a limit for open socket files ? [17:14] max limit [17:15] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:15] ulimit says unlimited [17:16] but I'm getting "java.net.SocketException: Too many open files " [17:16] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:17] java guys say it's up to OS [17:17] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.235.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:17] is pkgtool not working? [17:18] r_linux (~r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:18] SigmaVirus24: yes it is. [17:19] damnit [17:19] But perhaps if you tell us what you are trying to do, trying to achieve etc .. maybe a better response may come forth. [17:19] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [17:19] Hi. [17:19] ovnicraft_ (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:20] slackytude|evil (~slacky@e179048203.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:20] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [17:20] hey [17:20] I'm trying to install a new wm but there is no SlackBuild (except a shoddy one put together by someone on their wiki) and I was wondering if pkgtool would work to install it [17:20] SigmaVirus24, which wm? [17:20] awesome (3.4.5) [17:21] 2.3.6 is up on SBo [17:21] awesome is a wm?! [17:21] But 3.4.5 is apparently a complete rewrite which makes learning on 2.3.6 worthless [17:21] tiling window manager [17:21] :3 [17:21] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:21] SigmaVirus24 there's so much wrong with your question! :) [17:21] where to begin... [17:22] I meant something along the lines of "is it no longer supported" but didn't want to go that route [17:23] Also I don't want to annoy the guys in #slackbuilds because I know they're working on the stuff for 13.1 [17:24] <_< #slackware is never this quiet [17:24] um.. it is a lot of the time.. people have lives [17:25] people have lives -_^? [17:25] we are always watching [17:25] >> [17:25] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [17:25] stalking creeps :P [17:26] whenever I choose to stalk in here, I can never read the conversations fast enough [17:26] :P [17:26] (mostly thanks to my shit DSL connecting causing a crap ton of lag) [17:26] it helps if you're on call and have to be next to a networked computer at all times =P [17:27] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:27] sounds like phun phrag [17:28] or if you're an irc addict and are on it all of the time... [17:28] https://lwn.net/Articles/390389/ [17:28] biker (~biker@201.170.88.23.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:29] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:30] feinom_ (~feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) joined ##slackware. [17:30] feinom (~feinom@svale.uia.no) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:30] Nick change: feinom_ -> feinom [17:31] is there someone who knows how to run openvz on a slackware-13.1?? [17:31] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:32] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [17:32] e01__ (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] you know, it is more and more common for people to quickly fault and criticise things...it is almost always true that those people are rarely contributors or builders. [17:32] i find no virtue on those who do not build [17:32] e01_ (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:32] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [17:33] s/on/in [17:33] Slacking_Man (~Slacking_@pm1dialin-22.danbbs.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:33] well, random blue person I can't see.. some people shouldn't be building [17:33] what exactly do you mean by building? [17:33] don't know how, write bad code.. etc [17:33] has to be someone around to find ways to break things [17:33] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:34] :) Thank you mancha. [17:34] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:34] riza, for? [17:35] i've honestly never learned anything about linux programming. i known enough to not have any issues making my own packages for slackware when i need them, but i still only program on windows [17:35] oh, it's mancha [17:35] mancha, for saying that. I agree. \ [17:35] the first think you should know about programming in linux is that its not a language you program in [17:35] mancha, some people criticize too harshly, going beyond reason. [17:35] riza, ah cool. this was my reaction to the fella in sahko's link. [17:35] man strfry [17:35] Skywise: of course. i mean i don't know anything of syscalls and the like [17:36] mancha: I'm not CS, or IT, at all. I've used linux since 2004 and 3 months ago was the first time I took a programming class - 1 month of baby C. does this mean I shouldn't use any open source tools? [17:36] strfry is. [17:36] raela, nah, you don't understand what i am talking about... [17:36] but, if I find an issue that doesn't seem to be my own fault, I can still let someone know, even if I don't know how to fix it [17:37] i am not a talking about end users and bug reporting etc. [17:37] he's talking about newbs like me ;) [17:37] ahhh okay [17:38] yeah, I didn't read the link [17:38] ercula (~ercula@97-116-184-251.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] i mean folks who are semi-pro, involved in the FOSS stuff, but more keen on convinving everyone how the X11 protocol sucks than either a) helping fix X11 or b) proposing and building an alternative [17:38] nvm, that's not me :P [17:38] ohhh, okay. yeah.. that's not cool [17:39] kde-4.4.4 is out [17:39] 9_9 [17:39] fuck kde (no offense to anyone) [17:40] Action: powtrix seds s/kde/yourself/ [17:40] Action: phrag cheers [17:40] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [17:41] Not sure whether I will build packages for KDE 4.4.4... I'll wait for Pat. But 4.5 is on my agenda [17:41] cant wait =) [17:41] First priority is some updates to my own package repository [17:42] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] alienBOB: why specifically 4.5? [17:42] err, sorry, read that as 4.4.5. nevermind. [17:42] There will not be a 4.4.5 [17:42] Okay take care now folks. [17:42] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [17:43] right. i just thought that was what you said and i was curious as to why [17:43] Funny that Google is eradicating Windows from its internal desktops [17:43] 4.4.4 isnt exciting at all [17:44] I talked to a Google recruiter once, she told me that Google uses (or at least used.. no idea about the current state) a spiced-up Slackware for part of its servers [17:44] there *will* be 4.4.5 on june 24th. read about it earlier [17:47] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4235 [17:49] alienBOB, really? nice [17:49] Ive heard the PirateBay used slackware as well [17:50] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:50] Well they switched to Slamd64 because of the memory needs [17:50] slackytude|evil: without pirating it ? noes! [17:50] No idea what they use nowadays [17:50] adaptr, well, they probably got it from a torrent [17:51] can someone give me some useful google search operands please? [17:51] heheh [17:51] AND [17:51] beyond +/- [17:51] OR [17:51] hehe [17:51] Slacking_Man, "nekkid"+"girls" [17:51] issit LOGICAL AND [17:51] those were free, by the way... more complex ones cost money [17:52] i finally figured out how to stop guidance power manager from loading in kde4 and interfering with the new powerdevil! finally :) [17:52] i'll give you money. [17:52] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] it was actually extremely simple, i was just looking in the wrong place [17:53] now i'm just left to wonder why it autostarts by default [17:54] might it be in kde's initrc.kde file? [17:54] thought knowledge was free [17:54] it's in /usr/share/autostart [17:54] Slacking_Man: what are you talking about [17:54] Slacking_Man: what are you on about? [17:54] i was looking in my user's autostart and in the KDE settings for it [17:55] but it doesn't list what is in /usr/share/autostart [17:55] the evil eye is on Slacking_Man [17:55] Slacking_Man: that's what ThePirateBay keeps claiming, too ;) [17:55] kde is starting to sound like windows [17:55] not showing what it sounds like it should [17:55] what evil eye, dreg [17:55] KDE is starting to *feel* like windows, which is much much worse [17:55] Knowledge is free but we are not your slaves Slacking_Man [17:55] show me a complex search expression please? [17:55] adaptr: blackbox > windows [17:56] erm i mean kde [17:56] <__< [17:56] adaptr: you're obviously not running Windows as well as KDE then [17:56] alienBOB: there's very little I can do about that [17:56] information wants to be free, is the correct phrase [17:56] slaves? [17:56] no it's not. [17:56] if thats what you were refering to [17:56] referring? [17:57] that implies that information itself has consciousness and intent [17:57] put. down. the. drugs. NOW [17:57] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Slacking_Man: stop trolling [17:58] '[...] was meant to be free' is the new term [17:58] okay. [17:58] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:58] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:58] (man strfry) [17:58] Be more clear in your questions and you may get actual aswers Slacking_Man [17:59] alternatively, jump off a bridge [17:59] operands for complex searches. on google.com . [17:59] oops, did i say that out loud? :) [17:59] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [17:59] lol@ mancha [17:59] such as ( this + that ) but not ( that other thing that's frequently searched for but which i dont want to read about ) [17:59] Slacking_Man: have you tried.. um.. google? [18:00] yes, it's wonderful. [18:00] 'google operands' [18:00] So? [18:00] i think theres a book on that. mastering google or whats it called [18:00] thats not really I slackware related question [18:00] A zillion links too [18:00] s/I/a [18:00] if you use google on itself you risk opening up the wormhole again... [18:00] heheh [18:01] michael jackson knocked over google the very same way [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425979.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] lesson learned! [18:02] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:02] vvor (~vvor@bzq-79-181-41-146.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:03] alienBOB: I must admit the new KDE 4.4.3 is a major improvement over the old one from 13.0 - plasma hasn't crashed on me once! yet! [18:03] feh, i knew these. [18:03] mateus_ (~mateus@187.64.42.110) joined ##slackware. [18:03] i had been using alienBOB's 4.4 packages already because i love the "snap" feature so much, i was very pleased to see it when i installed 13.1 [18:03] Action: xsamurai pets the troll, "good trolly" [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425979.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] mateus_ (~mateus@187.64.42.110) left irc: Client Quit [18:04] i did manage to fold the kernel earlier.. by forcabliy removing the ipv6 module, although dmesg did warn me before it froze =P [18:04] danix_ (1000@host143-49-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:04] erm, dbus* [18:04] zaltekk: those required -current, yesno ? I used his 4.3 set for a while, but alas.. still buggy plasma [18:04] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [18:04] adaptr: 13.1 now [18:05] teste2 (~mateus@187.64.42.110) joined ##slackware. [18:05] adaptr: yes [18:05] phrag: try to follow along ;) [18:05] danix (1000@host143-49-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [18:06] adaptr: what? [18:06] Nick change: teste2 -> mateus [18:07] mateus (mateus@187.64.42.110) left ##slackware. [18:07] sorry, i meant zaltekk, typo [18:07] double typo ? extra points :) [18:07] mateus (~mateus@187.64.42.110) joined ##slackware. [18:07] meh.. i'm watching futurama at the same time =P [18:07] phrag: what do you mean "what?" lol [18:09] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:09] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [18:09] well what do you know [18:09] it's a small internet after all [18:10] Razec (~razec@187.34.21.133) joined ##slackware. [18:10] you've seen it all ? [18:10] did you put it on a floppy ? [18:11] pardon? [18:11] dont copy that floppy [18:11] the internet is always changing, always morphing, always evolving. it is no longer the one that al gore invented... [18:12] the intermanet has been taken over by porn , social networking and twatting [18:13] sprinkled with ads of dancing darkened images [18:13] and skiddiots, yeah? [18:13] uhm.... [18:13] the internet is only popular because of porn [18:13] thats nothing new [18:13] rab13s (~micemicer@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [18:13] feinom (~feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:14] Action: adaptr votes for new porn [18:14] did you see it all? [18:15] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:15] porn is seriously getting outdated [18:15] everything is the same [18:16] Nick change: e01__ -> e0 [18:16] Nick change: e0 -> e01 [18:17] yes [18:18] that means you are gtting old [18:18] soon you'll trade your porn for cooking books [18:18] porn and food isn't that far apart [18:18] jeev: you're supposed to be looking for the crazy extreme fringe pope-with-triple-legged-martian-midgets-in-butter-cream-frosting type of pr0n [18:18] enough please [18:19] adaptr: especially when part of the female anatomy does resemble a fortune cookie... [18:19] or fur burger [18:19] you will travel to many places... [18:19] phrag: so you prefer violence, judging by your nickname? :-) [18:20] short for phragment, and other conotations [18:20] sax and violins! [18:20] phrag: I was thinking in the terms of quake-based games [18:20] Action: adaptr misses the drums [18:20] ice799 (~ice799@67-23-10-49.static.slicehost.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [18:20] mishehu: that would be "frag" [18:21] adaptr: yes, but phrag could be a deliberate mispelling of "frag" [18:21] seeing as there's no word "phrag" or "phragment" in my dictionary... [18:21] the term "frag" also originates from "fragment" [18:21] as in, blow to pieces [18:22] i'm not interested in midget porn [18:22] it was a one year thing only. [18:24] Razec (~razec@187.34.21.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:27] auska (~auska@83.43.139.52) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:28] i must say i don't fully grok the license/patent/copyright stuff - when it comes to the nuances [18:29] oh great, mancha is still here [18:29] what ever happened to macavity anyway [18:29] for example, google's used a derviative bsd/apache license for vp8 the reason it modified it was to suspend rights of anyone that brings up litigation against them [18:29] Action: mancha pats jeev on the head [18:29] midget porn? jeev, just no, man.. no [18:29] midget escorts [18:30] but now there's chatter about google's license not meeting osi's standards, etc...very complex stuff (at least to me) [18:30] the little-people-organization-of-america won't reply to requests for those :( [18:31] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:33] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:36] I found a slackbuild for lxdream, but I am getting confused, next to each Item what looks like dependencys are listed, but there are so many, i think im wrong [18:37] http://github.com/PhantomX/slackbuilds/tree/master/lxdream/ [18:39] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:39] hmm what's this nepomuk thingie in kde now... after installing slack13.1, I've been seeing something in kopete about nepomuk not finding a data backend for sesame2 or somethinglike that [18:40] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:42] shalkie (~weechat@166-70-208-58.ip.xmission.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:20] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [19:21] ercula (~ercula@97-116-184-251.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:21] nvision (~nvision@e179139129.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:22] caronte (caronte@187.67.226.79) left ##slackware. [19:23] infotek (8096@shell.datasync.com) joined ##slackware. [19:23] so 13.1 finally installed on the netbook but now it hangs on boot at: uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Webcam-101 (10f1:1a0f) [19:23] :/ [19:23] i_is_cat: do you want to use it? [19:23] i will at times [19:23] i_is_cat: you can blacklist it for now, and update your kernel later. [19:24] bellman (bellman@core.routed.com) left ##slackware. [19:24] just installed 13.1 on a computer with 3ware 9550SX-8LP with 2TB array. no devices were created for the single partition on that array. [19:24] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:24] bjx (~brendan@60-240-108-175.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:24] infotek: what kernel did you boot with? [19:24] k i guess that is what i'll do then [19:24] ty [19:24] infotek, did you identify the partition (location, fs) during install? [19:25] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [19:26] i installed using the default kernel. I did not touch the array during install because it has data. The boot log shows it found the card and the array. [19:26] dd if=/dev/sda of=/tmp/sda.dd count=4096 ; file /tmp/sda.dd ; [19:26] infotek: try hugesmp [19:26] results in /tmp/sda.dd: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xee, starthead 0, startsector 1, 4294967295 sectors, extended partition table (last)\011, code offset 0x0 [19:27] thumbs: thats the default isn't it? [19:27] so it looks like udev did not mknod sda1 [19:28] can you mount it manually? [19:28] (just wondering) [19:28] but then i manually "mknod sda1 -m 0660 b 8 1" [19:29] and it says /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device [19:29] when trying to mount that is [19:29] so: "mount /dev/sda1 /at/wherever" doesn't work? [19:29] wow these usb sticks are irritating me quite a bit.. they seem to only recognize one out of every 25 times they are inserted.. [19:30] shonudo: that is correct [19:30] infotek: got it [19:30] shonudo: but i created the sda1 myself... sda was created by udev i guess [19:30] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:30] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-162-97.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:30] shonudo: fdisk -l shows the partition but sda1 is not in /dev after a boot [19:31] try lsdev or so [19:31] maybe it's not sda1 [19:31] shonudo: do you have an /dev/sda1 ? [19:31] yup [19:31] in the fstab [19:31] for an external that's on all the time [19:32] shonudo: what are the major minor numbers on your sda1 i used 8,1 [19:32] hang on, it's on the other box [19:32] brb [19:32] well, that's not going to work right now... [19:32] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:34] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:34] infotek, you mentioned it was an array -- what fs? [19:35] what i'm thinking is "mount reiserfs (lol) -rw /dev/sdaxxxx /mnt/tmp" [19:35] shonudo: it was ext3 [19:35] the laugh was just me; "free reiser" might be more appropriate [19:36] so id the device, its fs, privileges, and a mountpoint and see what happens [19:36] shonudo: use reiserfs (OR I WILL F*CK!NG KILL YOU) [19:36] lol [19:36] lmao [19:36] no doubt [19:36] shonudo: i saw that t-shirt at defcon one year [19:37] sick [19:37] too funny [19:37] infotek: hahaha [19:37] anyway, if it exists, if you can find it (lsdev or whatever), you should be able to mount it [19:37] it was close to the same year that all that went down. [19:38] ok so i gots this controller that gets recognized by the kernel and fdisk -l shows sda1 but udev did not create a nod for it. [19:38] well, he killed more than his partner; he killed his fs and namesys [19:39] i think the company's name was namesys (may be wrong) [19:39] infotek: are you willing to run mknod? heh [19:39] manually creating the nod does not seem to work. and no funky kernel messages are shown [19:39] thumbs: i already did run mknod [19:39] is there any chance it's not sda1? [19:40] infotek: see if your kernel has a known issue with that controller. [19:40] could it be something else (sda2, sdb1, etc)? [19:41] no it is sda1 [19:41] fdisk -l sees it and reports the correct size [19:41] infotek: try a live cd, say, slax. [19:41] but i built this system before this size array was well supported [19:41] and this is an array (like a RAID setup)? [19:41] infotek: I want to see if the kernel is the problem. [19:41] software or hardware? [19:41] what did you enable in the kernel? [19:41] etc [19:42] it was the default kernel [19:42] i think i see the problem [19:42] share... [19:42] infotek: what is it? [19:43] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:43] let me verify first [19:44] Guest54689 (~a@c-24-147-175-17.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: what a beautiful day to be alive [19:44] infotek: okay. [19:44] wooo blacklisted uvcvideo now it hangs during boot on the b43-pci-bridge.. [19:45] i_is_cat: nice. [19:45] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:45] i_is_cat: did you pass any kernel parameter? [19:45] i_is_cat: tried noudev? [19:46] i did the noudev to get the installer to boot but didnt use it to boot the installed system.. i guess its worth a shot.. [19:46] i_is_cat: try it, please. [19:46] it is trying now.. [19:47] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:47] nope.. hangs at the same spot [19:47] i_is_cat: wow. Umm. [19:48] i_is_cat: what kind of bios is it? [19:49] i dont know offhand.. but i think they updated the bios when it was in for repair [19:49] ivandi (~ivandi@bas2-quebec03-1242537241.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:49] i could have sworn it had options to turn off the webcam etc and now it doesnt [19:49] ivandi (~ivandi@bas2-quebec03-1242537241.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [19:49] i_is_cat: buggers. [19:49] mako-dono (~mako@81.22.28.115) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:50] i agree.. at least they replaced the screen and the fan this time.. even if it did take over a month [19:50] ivandi (~ivandi@bas2-quebec03-1242537241.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:51] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.174) joined ##slackware. [19:51] it sucks that im having so many issues getting it installed.. i didnt run into any of these issues when i installed an earlier version of slack.. [19:52] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. 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[20:23] Femaq (~Femaq@78.63.176.77) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:24] i dont know what to do short of trying to install slackware 13.0 and then upgrading... :S [20:24] using parted to relable sda and then using parted to rescue a partition recovered a partition that still will not mounty [20:25] but kernel log shows that it is closer [20:25] ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 0 not in group (block 4294967295) [20:26] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:27] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.36) joined ##slackware. [20:27] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:29] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:40] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-170-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:40] infotk, i think that may be overcomplicating things... [20:41] why don't you go back to the slack install disk, skip most of the stuff except identifying partions [20:41] and give the array partition a value and a mountpoint? [20:41] just don't format [20:42] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:43] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [20:44] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [20:46] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:47] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [20:47] slackytude|foo (~slacky@g227067000.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:48] in fact, i'd be interested to see if it appeared as available/mountable during install [20:51] slackytude|evil (~slacky@e179048203.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:51] i dunno wtf the deal is but this usb stick i have shows up as an alcor micro 99% of the time and when it does, it wont show up in fdisk -l after 400 reinsertions into random usb ports it finally shows up as a generic usb stick ready to use [20:51] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:52] has anyone else encountered the same sort of issue? i think next time ill stick with a brand name usb stick.. [20:53] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:55] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:56] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Client Quit [20:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.203) joined ##slackware. [20:59] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [21:00] linuxgoob (linuxgoob@adsl-99-96-207-156.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [21:03] what command do i use to set a directory to always be 775, even when i create a new file? [21:03] right now it's always defaulting to 755 for permissions [21:04] Ps3-Jack_ (~chatzilla@112.135.10.40) joined ##slackware. [21:04] you need to change umask in /etc/profile [21:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427440.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:05] ah, ok [21:05] linuxgoob (~linuxgoob@adsl-99-96-207-156.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] exit [21:05] heh [21:05] umask doesn't work on a per-directory basis. it's per session [21:05] sahko: how would i change the umask for only ~/foo ? [21:06] Reticenti: you would need to use filesystem acls [21:07] Ps3-Jack (~chatzilla@112.135.23.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:07] Nick change: Ps3-Jack_ -> Ps3-Jack [21:07] if i need to mount an entire drive with 775, can i do `mount umask=775 /dev/sda1 ~/foo` ? [21:07] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:08] the mask would be 002 [21:08] hmm, no umask for xfs ... [21:09] ah, its opposite [21:11] Reticenti: time to learn acls [21:11] yeah, reading through a tutorial [21:11] thanks for pointing me in the right direction [21:12] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] what's the reason umask is a mask? [21:18] maybe the execute bit difference between directories and files... can you define a umask that makes files executable by default? 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[21:47] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.2) joined ##slackware. [21:47] linuxgoob (linuxgoob@adsl-99-96-207-156.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [21:47] I nominate the phrase 'Herb is the healing of the nation; alcohol is its destruction.' to go in fortunes. [21:48] i got a new sound card, and i'm seeing a "Rec" button for the first time [21:48] anyone know what that's for? [21:48] record? [21:49] yeah. maybe it's a mute button. [21:51] yeah, but where does it record too? O_o [21:51] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488FDAD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] why not research the button starting with the web site for the application you are refering to ? [21:52] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] as right now we have no clue where this button is, what application it is associated with (if any) and so on [21:52] Action: ut bets it's a power button for the mic [21:52] echelon: A "rec" button on the card? Not a port, an actual button physically on the card? [21:53] if I want to switch to KDE4, do I need to delete my old .kde*? [21:53] see, prime part of data there... where is the button ... [21:53] err, sorry [21:53] i meant it was in aumix [21:53] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:53] It controls the volume of the channel you're recording [21:54] Or, more likely, the volume the channel is recorded at. [21:54] hmm [21:54] Or, actually, as a button, it probably determines which channel you're recording from. [21:54] A slider would control volume. [21:55] why not consult the man page... [21:55] goj (~goj@p5488FD42.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:55] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] Things like that can also vary from card to card. [21:56] dchmelik: I'll only add that nor herb nor alcohol solve anything, they only hide problems from you and put you in a state you can't do anything and can't protest [21:56] bedtime [21:56] It all depends on the functionality of the card and the functionality of the driver. [21:58] Action: ut thinks alcohol is friendly [22:00] cteg_ (~heretic@host-091-097-160-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Quit: this is who we are [22:01] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:02] j0z (~UNIX@201.47.15.3.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:02] j0z (~UNIX@201.47.15.3.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [22:02] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [22:03] ohhh, any bets on whether k3b declares yet another disc a coaster? :P [22:04] sometimes k3b goes at a little bit higher speed than it actually says [22:04] like if you choose 16 it will go 16.4 [22:04] I mean, a little higher speed than you select--then it will say that later [22:04] I burned 4 isos the other day.. first one passed, second failed.. ended up having 3 failed copies of that, then it failed the other 2 I burned [22:04] they all seemed to work fine, though [22:06] I told it to max at 10x for the disc, see if that goes better [22:06] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.42.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:09] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:09] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:10] slackytude|foo (~slacky@g227067000.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:13] ohhh, success!! [22:18] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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[22:36] Heya,folks [22:37] heya [22:37] Heya,NaCl...How've ya been? [22:38] working hard and/or hardly working. :P [22:38] NightTiger (~derekm@2001:470:1d:e4:216:17ff:fe3b:21d0) joined ##slackware. [22:38] see xchat's linux port finally upgraded...few minor changes,nothing new [22:39] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.120.65.103) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Action: NaCl just uses irssi [22:40] greetings MLanden, NaCl [22:40] salutations,hitest [22:40] M1ck3y (~Jon@c-68-40-206-140.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] greetings [22:41] Hello all, I am completely and hopelessly lost :*( [22:41] with what? [22:41] I just installed slackware 13 (pretty much a total ubuntu using newbie here) and I have no graphics (as in startx tells me screen not found) and I saw online that you have to do this xorgconfig thing but that does nothing... helP? ":) [22:42] M1ck3y, what is your video "card"? [22:42] where do i find vmlinuz-generic on the DVD? I accidentally did a ln wrong and linked mine to vmlinuz instead of the other way around [22:42] mmm... well I'm on a laptop... I think I have like an nvidia 9800 or something.. [22:43] dchmelik: kernel-generic [22:43] M1ck3y: lspci | grep -i vga [22:43] cool [22:43] M1ck3y, that why I placed ""'s around it...;) [22:43] nvidia C77 [Geforce 8200M G] (rev a2) [22:44] I do not see a kernel-generic on my disc in ./kernels or ./slackware64/k [22:44] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.120.65.103) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:44] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:44] dchmelik: try 'a' [22:45] thanks [22:45] slackpkg also helps with this [22:45] fyi [22:46] oh yeah, it can search, right... or upgrade packages? [22:46] yes [22:47] M1ck3y: it doesn't work when there is no xorg.conf? [22:49] Well, when I first finished the install I tried typing xorgconfig cause that's what I saw on some website. that didn't work. so then I typed xorg and hit tab and it brought up xorgsetup and I ran through that and startx still wouldn't work and then I tried xorgconfig again and nothing. Am I going about this the wrong way? [22:49] You can try removing and backing up your xorg.conf, then try starting X. [22:50] Eventually, you will want to install the nvidia graphics drivers [22:50] NaCi: how do i remove and back up the file? [22:50] mv [22:50] M1ck3y: tab complete is your friend [22:50] lol [22:51] so like "mv xorg.conf to xorgbackup.conf" ? [22:51] mv xorg.conf somethingelse [22:51] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [22:52] still nothing :( [22:52] like using the old prefix,force of habit something like mv xorg.conf xorg060110.old [22:52] that is similar to what I did, but startx still doesn't work.. [22:53] it says fatal error no screens found [22:53] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.78.121) joined ##slackware. [22:53] M1ck3y: have you tried running xorgsetup? [22:53] heh [22:54] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-94-244.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:54] v3gard: yeah I tried that but I didn't get to pick anything for video, I just let it auto detect and picked keyboard stuff and then it finishe [22:54] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html [22:54] 5.4.2 [22:54] config for xorg creates a xorg.conf.new iirc [22:55] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.170.127) joined ##slackware. [22:55] It's supposed to auto-config [22:55] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:55] It did for me on the macines that I have used [22:55] X -configure will create a /root/xorg.conf.new . you shouldn't need one unless you use closed-source drivers, really [22:55] NaCl, hm. well I know it didn't for my friend [22:55] YMMV [22:56] the X server is smart enough to find OSS drivers for your video card, and will ask hal for a list of your input devices [22:56] I don't think I ran startx until I ran the config and mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf or wherever it goes [22:57] I seriously have the worst linux luck... I got ubuntu installed but then I did their new update and started getting grub errors and had to format my mbr and I was all excited about putting slackware on my cpu but I want some graphics.. Should I try making a new xorg.conf file? [22:58] which graphics card? [22:58] try Xorg -configure and mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf [22:58] and make sure you're in the xorg.conf.new dir [22:58] nvidia C77 [Geforce 8200M G] (rev a2) [22:58] oh, nvidia [22:59] when I do Xorg -configure it says "number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. COnfiguration failed." [23:00] you probably need the nvidia closed-source driver [23:01] how do I go about getting that? If it helps, I know that when I had ubuntu on this machine it said something about needing to install drivers that were... well I don't remember the term used but it seemed to imply that I had to select closed source drivers [23:02] well, without a xorg.conf and the closed source drivers, X should at least start - that's not the case? [23:03] startx just returns : Fatal Server error: no screens found [23:03] do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ? [23:04] right now i do, because I just ran xorgsetup again, but even when I deleted it (mv to xorgconf.old) it still wouldn't work [23:05] ok, as mentioned, kill that one, and try "X -configure" , and move the file (/root/xorg.conf.new I think?) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try [23:05] a forum I just read said they solved "no screens found" by switching out their graphics card. obviously you probably won't solve it the same way. just thought I'd mention it. [23:05] twoshot_ lol... not what I wanted to hear but thanks :P [23:05] haha [23:05] how do I configure up this nepomuk thingie in kde? after I installed 13.1, it's been complaining about the database for sesame2... [23:05] well they took the easy route [23:06] "No screens found" translates to 'bad configuration' usually [23:07] thrice`: when I do that it posts a bunch of words I don't understand and then says "number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed." [23:08] If it produces a xorg.conf.new file you should pastebin it [23:08] for other people to look at... not me :P. I don't know enough [23:09] I think you're "not knowing enough" is a little out of my league. I don't know how to pastebin something :( [23:09] Redness (~redness@c122-108-167-28.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:10] is nvidia-xconfig still used?...been 'while since I messed with any of the nvidia's video GPU's [23:10] pastebin.com [23:10] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:11] just put the file on a usb drive since you don't have graphics and move it to another computer and put it's text in pastebin.com [23:12] asamoah (~caio@190.244.41.59) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:12] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:14] newbie question number 25, how do I find where my usb stick is... I have a terrible GUI dependency.. [23:15] should be in /media [23:15] ls /media [23:15] wrong! [23:15] er would it automount without x? [23:15] dmesg | tail [23:15] M1ck3y: dmesg | tail [23:15] hal doesnt automount it if you arent in X.. [23:15] oh whoops :P [23:15] find the device (like /dev/sdb1), and mount it with 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmp) [23:16] Action: thrice` wanders off to sleep [23:16] hal won't automount in fluxbox, either.. so.. looking in /media is a bad idea (I assume it's the same for some other wm's as well) [23:16] night, thrice` [23:16] that's good to know [23:19] M1ck3y (Jon@c-68-40-206-140.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:21] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:23] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:23] seen a few tweaks on some fluxbox and openbox forum's using halevt and ivman on hal events like automounting [23:23] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:24] ivman is deprecated for years [23:25] sahko,so I see..last stable for ivman was in 2007 [23:25] this is pretty cool: http://tools.suckless.org/skvm [23:26] i thought it was even older than that [23:29] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.44.43) joined ##slackware. [23:29] stuartSan (~stuartSan@115.135.91.217) joined ##slackware. [23:29] hi guys, my desktop seems to be having a problem connecting, the router is working fine, but for some reason slack isn't connected to the internet [23:29] Nick change: stuartSan -> stu_ [23:30] is there a way to check my internet connection? [23:30] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [23:31] type ruote [23:31] route [23:31] stu_: There are, but I am not awake enough to recall them, plus I am oterwise occupied. :/ [23:31] ping your default gateway.. [23:31] are you getting a response ? [23:32] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:33] disco stu, doesn't care to doooooooo what i ask him to doo [23:34] jeev, no response.. [23:36] i am totally internetless [23:36] sorry for the delay, freakin mirc doesn't alert like xchat does [23:37] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-55-215.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:37] stu_: mirc? *infidel* [23:37] jewbacca, i don't have a choice, my desktop is kinda broken [23:37] stu_: oh, ok [23:37] for some reason today it just won't connect [23:37] speaking of infidels to linux, discs will be in the mail tomorrow morning, jewbacca [23:37] i can't even connect to my router with that desktop [23:37] raela: thanks love [23:37] raela: yes, i'm an infidel [23:38] well, at least it's not windows.. :P [23:38] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [23:38] raela: true, it's not windows [23:38] raela: it's still open source [23:39] jewbacca: I've never tried it myself, so I can't really comment :P [23:39] raela: i know [23:40] stu_ (~stuartSan@115.135.91.217) left irc: [23:40] zfxp (~zfxp@67-30.186-72.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:41] pukeko (~pukeko@203.118.156.183) joined ##slackware. [23:42] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:42] howdy ... hey is there a way to change my console resolution without rebooting or messing with grub(2) ? [23:44] pukeko: grub? [23:45] its not a slackbox [23:46] Then why are you asking here, in a Slack channel? [23:46] ...and so you come here? [23:46] why not ? [23:46] pukeko: we don't use grub [23:46] hey guys how do I change the oil in my car [23:46] pukeko: Leave, and go ask in ##distro [23:47] raela: Start by drilling a hole in the oil pan.. ;) [23:47] FriedBob: hrm, sound advice from the ideal channel to ask it in! :D [23:48] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:48] Action: NaCl just thought about something [23:48] What exactly do firewalls do? [23:49] Control network access [23:49] keep fire from reaching the cockpit [23:49] well i thought it may have been a dist neutral query [23:49] pukeko: then ask in ##linux or ##linuxhelp [23:49] for a headless box [23:49] pukeko: this is ##slackware.. and we don't use grub [23:49] "control network access"? [23:50] NaCl: That's what our firewall rules on our routers do [23:50] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.120.65.103) joined ##slackware. [23:50] as i said in my question i don't want to use or involve grub [23:50] Decide who gets to see what and from where etc. [23:50] pukeko: You are asking in the wrong channel [23:50] so why are you not asking in the chan of your distro of choice? [23:51] "they aren't talking" is not a valid answer [23:51] Or in a generic Linux channel as also mentioned [23:51] or google(tm) [23:52] i also have to favour slack [23:52] *happen [23:52] then use slack.. [23:52] no grub trouble..case solved..;) [23:52] I favor slack too, but that doesn't mean I can ask questions about other OSes/distros in here. [23:52] not in this particular instance [23:54] huh.. my thread on LQ got magicked to the top of the page, it seems [23:55] it happens if theres no replies for a day i think [23:55] ahh, neat. okay, that makes sense [23:57] Ooops... Good thing I was able to kill that... I accidently wrote an inf loop, and have to test on a production server due to circumstances beyond my control. :( [23:58] I think I wrote an inf loop, trying to do homework. I let it run for 36 hours before declaring it hopeless.. had it going for 6 data sets, each using 100% of a core [23:58] n0w0nd3r (~n0w0nd3r@117.98.58.217) joined ##slackware. [23:59] one did work in 5 seconds ;/ and then some were using 3 GB ram due to the temp files it loaded.. bah [23:59] When this works, this will be doing a mass delete from my clients dataabse. [23:59] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:59] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:59] ah.. a bit more sensitive code, heh [23:59] So I am rather NOT happy about being forced to work on a production server with live data. [00:00] --- Wed Jun 2 2010