[00:00] antler, just get pure iodine and mix it with ammonia, then take the wet paste and put it on stuff [00:00] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:00] jesus didn't know some folks in here were amateur chemists.... nice. :) [00:00] when it dries it explodes on contact [00:00] wow [00:00] antler: my undergrad degree is chemistry :) [00:00] rworkman: oh nice :) [00:01] edman007: put it on, like, buddy's shirt? [00:01] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] Right behind car tires is cool... :D [00:01] Action: edman007 wants to try and make flies land on it [00:01] haha [00:01] lol [00:02] wow. [00:02] edman007: you *must* video that. [00:02] edman007: youtube it :) [00:02] Morning(or afternoon or evening),folks..How's everyone doing? [00:03] rworkman, alright...i just have to wait for summer [00:04] This isn't Chem 101. This is Chemistry for Hackers. [00:04] Action: MLanden shutters to ask WHAT would be videoed [00:04] Exploding flies [00:04] nille_ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:05] LOL [00:05] makes me think of the commercial about hot sauce [00:05] you could always get one of those electric fly swatters and tape it with a high speed camera [00:05] super slow-mo clip of that would be so cool [00:06] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:06] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [00:07] twolf, i had a teacher in high school with an electrified fly swatter, looked like a mini tennis racket, if it touched a fly they would spiral down [00:07] edman007: yeah mine gives off a nice spark when it contacts a fly [00:08] Action: edman007 needs to get one [00:08] Try zapping one with a large Tesla Coil [00:08] I got it at Harbor Frate Tools for $2.99 [00:08] NaCl, i always wanted to use a van de graffe generator, make the fly go close and get zapped [00:10] man, so many good projects.... [00:10] very much so [00:12] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:12] Could this be considered cruelty to animals? [00:12] Electrocuting flies? [00:12] grey area [00:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:14] flies don't have feelings, they reproduce too fast, must die [00:14] short life spans as well [00:14] twolf, oh, you should have see one what i bought, flightless house flies, those were fun.. [00:14] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:15] Kind of like rabbits, but they aren't as cute and they hover around and buzz [00:15] they were bred with curled wings and could only jump [00:15] hehe [00:15] superGear (n=superGea@71.229.158.111) joined ##slackware. [00:15] twolf, yea, i bought them for some lizards, its fun to watch them try to run [00:17] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [00:20] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-205-120.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:21] edman007: what type of lizards? [00:22] dadexter_laptop (n=martin@modemcable229.25-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:22] anoles [00:22] cool [00:23] MLanden, yea, i had some cooters (a type of turtle) for a long time too, got em when they were like 1" long....i had to get rid of em when they started to pass a foot...lol [00:23] damn things get huge [00:24] same damn deal with the iguanas i had, had to get rid of em when they got past 3-4 feet... [00:24] Had a cousin who raised cooters in Florida...they do get quite large [00:24] MLanden, yea...i actually bought em if flordia [00:24] edman007: are you the guy that keeps dumping aligators in the lake in our town when they get too big to keep at home [00:25] s/if/in/ [00:25] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:26] twolf, haha, no, only things i ever dump into the wild like that are things that i got from the wild...and there are no gators in the northeast... [00:26] at least not that i know of... [00:26] no gators here in kansas either, except the ones people let go [00:27] closest gator community to me in Virginia,is down east in the carolinas [00:27] they have found about 5 in the last 10 years in our city lake [00:27] MLanden, my grandma lives in FL....oh man do they got a lot of gators down there (she is in Ft myers) [00:28] every pond has a bunch of 3-4' gators [00:28] yeah,they do [00:28] scarry [00:28] twolf, and i tried to get close to them once...i got attacked by fire ants...i hate fire ants [00:29] no doubt, we got fire ants here, bad news [00:30] every so often,if the weather stays consistently warm here in Virginia..we might get a few patches of fire ants [00:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:32] It's cold up here in Maine. Most of the state doesn't even have broadband [00:33] hehe [00:33] screennameless52 (n=screenna@pool-70-109-90-81.hag.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:33] 19F [00:34] fells like 6F [00:34] 14F here [00:34] where are you? [00:34] Kansas [00:34] 39F here [00:34] you can sympathize [00:34] way south [00:34] screennameless (n=screenna@pool-70-109-90-81.hag.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] Action: pirving is listening to Metallica - No Leaf Clover [00:35] who in this room is the most remote? [00:35] Where are you [00:35] england? Somalia [00:35] Iraq? [00:35] Virginia here [00:35] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:36] Virginia has nice weather [00:36] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] do you have any good tobacco videos? [00:36] my cousin just shipped out to Iraq for the 3rd time, poor bastard [00:36] no [00:37] India [00:38] What part,bsdx? [00:38] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [00:38] Mumbai (Bombay) [00:38] damn, I should search youtube, there's a good marlboro video where they tell how they use reconstituted tobacco and they soak the "mother Laquer" with paper and chop it up and put it in cigarettes. Cigarettes only have like 15% tobacco. I'll get you the link [00:39] nasty [00:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkTMx-1G0RQ [00:39] watch it and tell me what you think [00:40] seen it..that's why a roll my own [00:40] s/a/I [00:41] I'd like to hear people's comments about the video [00:41] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.165.191) left irc: "Leaving" [00:43] pirving: i was a cigarrette [00:44] want [00:44] having typing trouble tonight :) [00:46] Traveler97 (n=fn-javac@c-75-66-4-211.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] MrHales (i=0c18ef91@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-91a20fc4f7adc3eb) joined ##slackware. [00:52] Good evening, or whatever your personal time coordinates may be. [00:52] same to you MrHales [00:52] Evening,MrHales [00:52] Traveler97 (n=fn-javac@c-75-66-4-211.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) left irc: "Java user signed off" [00:52] Currently on irc thanks to mibbit. How have I managed to violate Pidgin? [00:54] ThiagoBruno (n=Thiaguin@189.71.19.40) left irc: Client Quit [00:54] I had an unfortunate incident with pkgtool and so reinstalled the system in the usual manner, upgraded to 4.2 (the right way), and now Pidgin fails to connect due to a "Temporary failure in name resolution", however I can use the web just fine. [00:54] What did I do? [00:56] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [00:56] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-67-182-203-59.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Oookay, now it works. [00:57] What the.. [00:57] MrHales (i=0c18ef91@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-91a20fc4f7adc3eb) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [00:57] MrHales1 (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Hey guys, i'm over at a friends house setting up his laptop with slackware. Weird thing is, his wireless card got labeled as eth0. [00:58] agentc0re, yea...some wifi drivers do that... [00:58] so deal with it ;) [00:58] you can override it if you wish though [00:58] edman007: Oh, so it should technically still work just fine even though it's labeled like that? [00:58] yea [00:59] MrHales1 (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left irc: Client Quit [00:59] edman007: I'm having trouble getting it to work and thought it was because of that. how can i over ride that? [01:00] agentc0re, ifrename [01:00] Swabby- (n=dp@74-137-17-131.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [01:00] and i guess /etc/iftab will save its settings, might need to edit the scripts to make it run, i don't know if slack does that in its scripts [01:00] edman007: and that's a permanent change? [01:01] edman007: oh okay. [01:01] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [01:01] hmm [01:01] Wow... [01:02] What,MrHales? [01:03] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [01:03] no, not ifrename or iftab on slackware. [01:04] edit /etc/udev/rules.d/??-network.rules or some such; then reboot [01:05] or instead of rebooting, unload all network modules and reload them [01:06] kwenda (i=kwenda-t@win2k3.kylewenda.com) left irc: [01:06] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:07] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:07] Pidgin flipping me out. It's moodier than my ex-wife. [01:07] Works, doesn't work, works, doesn't work. I was checking the settings in my router, doing [01:08] nslookup and traceroute to make sure the services I wanted to connect to were really there, that something wasn't broken from here to there... [01:08] rworkman: okay. let me try that. 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Keeps just adding a line back to that udev networking rule file to make it an eth device. Doesn't matter if i rmmod all devices or reboot. [01:18] I think the Ides of March is some kind of celebration... [01:19] caringee (n=chatzill@38.119.107.110) joined ##slackware. [01:19] goes with the 15 days of March....roman festivity [01:19] ah [01:20] Action: MLanden had to wikipedia that one [01:20] Just did the same. [01:20] Et tu Brute? [01:20] neh...LOL [01:22] slaxxin (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] agentc0re: what exactly are you trying to make it become? [01:24] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:24] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] can anyone reach the forums at http://xerobank.com/forum/ ? [01:27] Loads as an immaculately white page. Like the old polar bear in a blizzard joke. [01:28] heh [01:30] thanks [01:30] rworkman: It doesn't matter anymore. I found out the problem. Thanks though :) [01:31] I feel aweful telling you guys this (and ladies if any, which there isn't) I think of the rm * -fr command as remove dash forcibly rape! [01:31] thats how I remember [01:32] superGear (n=superGea@71.229.158.111) left irc: [01:33] Action: dionysian just submitted his first slackbuild to sb.o [01:33] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-136-166.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:35] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] time to gt some shut eye. night all [01:36] NyteOwl (i=nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "There are four types of hats to be aware of: Black, White, Grey and Red. The meanings are: Cracker, Hacker, Guru and Victim. [01:36] i wonder how long they take to approve [01:39] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-67-182-203-59.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:40] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.165.191) joined ##slackware. [01:44] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:45] Action: pirving is listening to tool - jambi [01:46] pirving: turn that script off. [01:47] screennameless (n=screenna@pool-70-109-90-81.hag.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:48] dhabyx_ (n=dhabyx@190.148.109.43) joined ##slackware. [01:50] good song though ;) [01:52] take care,folks...good luck in all endeavors [01:52] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:52] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:52] Nick change: dhabyx_ -> dhabyx [01:53] hashed_ (n=hashed_@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) left ##slackware. [01:55] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:56] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:59] hmm 1.7GB for /tmp/SBo .. time for a cleanout :) [02:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:01] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] *poof!* [02:02] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left irc: "Leaving." [02:03] x will not start after a fresh full install [02:07] http://pastebin.com/m1ffe5036 [02:09] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [02:10] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:10] ls -ld /tmp && ls -ld /tmp/.{X11,ICE}-unix [02:11] can i paste the output? it's only 3 lines [02:11] you should be just okay. [02:11] drwxr-xr-t 9 root root 4096 2009-03-01 02:10 /tmp/ [02:11] drwxr-xr-t 2 root root 4096 1994-05-04 14:44 /tmp/.ICE-unix/ [02:11] drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2009-03-01 02:10 /tmp/.X11-unix/ [02:12] heh. well there you go. :) [02:12] chmod 1777 /tmp /tmp/.{X11,ICE}-unix [02:12] dionysian, this machine is up since 1994? [02:13] wow [02:13] bsdx: since he just said it's a fresh full install, I think we can safely asume the answer to that question to be "no" [02:13] stupid of me [02:14] well, that did it [02:14] i wonder what happened [02:14] that's strange [02:14] somehow your /tmp permission got unholy screwed :) [02:15] ah ok [02:15] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] X was trying to write to /tmp/.ICE-unix/ as your user, but since it found it didn't had any rights to do so, it bailed with an error. [02:17] i see [02:18] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.165.191) left irc: "Leaving" [02:19] must have happened when i was putting together that slackbuild [02:19] i just checked the script over, though, shouldn't do that in its present state [02:19] heh [02:20] there is a chown -R root:root . [02:21] unless you set the VARS somewhere wrong. [02:21] hashed_ (n=hashed_@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:21] BP{k}: they look right to me now. they may not have been at some point [02:22] i tested it once and it screwed up [02:22] that was probably when it happened [02:23] quite possible :) [02:23] Anyway, on that bombshell, I am out . [02:25] caringee (n=chatzill@38.119.107.110) left irc: "hello" [02:26] caringee (n=chatzill@38.119.107.110) joined ##slackware. [02:43] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [02:43] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-115-154.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. 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[03:08] jgor_ (i=jgor@66.112.231.96) joined ##slackware. [03:11] rapid_ (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [03:12] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid [03:13] jgor__ (i=jgor@66.112.231.147) joined ##slackware. [03:14] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:14] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:16] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [03:16] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:19] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:19] Nick change: ROKO__ -> ROKO__-[afk] [03:20] jgor (n=jgor@66.112.231.147) left irc: Nick collision from services. [03:20] Nick change: jgor__ -> jgor [03:25] completely OT: if i send a business letter to a woman that i don't know, which is proper: mrs. or ms. ? [03:25] :D [03:27] for some reason i can't place my finger on, ms. sounds better. (unless the woman is 86) [03:29] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms. [03:30] jgor_ (i=jgor@66.112.231.96) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:30] DeeeeP (i=0@bl4-166-30.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:31] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Client Quit [03:32] hm [03:33] DeeeeP (i=0@bl8-109-181.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [03:33] you never do Mrs because if she is not married it could be insulting [03:33] marital status seems to be the only significant difference. since i don't know whether or not she's married, i had better use ms. [03:34] yeah [03:34] like she has some serious baggage or is effed up in the head to not be married yet [03:34] which is probably true tbh [03:35] ok, SiegeX, esquire. :P [03:35] oh! are you married? :P [03:36] heh ya [03:39] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:43] ken` (n=user@38.119.107.110) joined ##slackware. [03:44] hashed_ (n=hashed_@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) left ##slackware. [03:49] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:54] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:55] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [03:57] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:04] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[05:03] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:05] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:07] any other slackware users having any luck burning dual layer dvds? [05:11] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:14] sorenp1 (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [05:14] dl works for me [05:18] nullboy, 12.2 or 12.1? [05:18] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:18] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [05:19] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:19] worked through 12.1-current [05:19] that's only when i finally got a dl drive so it might have worked longer [05:20] oh yeah, byteframe, you need one of those first :P [05:20] (and the disks) ... [05:21] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.179) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:21] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.165.138) joined ##slackware. [05:21] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.165.138) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:21] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:22] ive both. [05:22] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196896.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:24] ;-) [05:24] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [05:26] what if a person's false believe that they are mentally ill is their mental illness? [05:26] divide by zero. fatal. [05:27] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-377681.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:27] divide by zero? [05:28] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [05:28] http://shhac.info/x/b/divide_by_zero.jpg [05:28] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:28] nullboy, The following statement is true. The preceding statement is false. [05:28] http://2.media.tumblr.com/i2dw5nf19k3nnn4iPkyx3HHBo1_500.jpg [05:29] oh heh. i thought that remark was related to the previous one about mental illness [05:29] byteframe, chocolate covered bacon ftw! [05:29] antler: yeah it was [05:29] simplesso (n=simplex@uglyplace.org) left irc: "x" [05:33] Nick change: antler -> obtuse [05:33] i don't get it... [05:33] :D [05:34] Nick change: obtuse -> antler [05:34] it's like saying 'your delusions are false'; like begging the question in reverse [05:35] oh, the picture was just illustrative [05:36] :D [05:36] \o/ [05:36] hehehe [05:37] simplesso (n=simplex@uglyplace.org) joined ##slackware. [05:37] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:42] i think there are many of those people walking around [05:48] are you in europe? 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[06:04] ryht|NiMD (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:04] How the damn do you change the resolution on KDE? [06:05] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:06] krandr? [06:06] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:06] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [06:10] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [06:12] Gargantua, krandrtray is what I use [06:14] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:16] If you're using Nvidia, you can use nvidia-settings, too. [06:16] thanks [06:18] sorenp1 (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [06:20] haha [06:24] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[06:35] you need the illudium q36 explosive space modulator [06:36] no, i'm quite fine with my orbital frozen eel cannons [06:37] they fire frozen eels in ceramic sabots [06:37] so the eel stays frozen through re-entry [06:41] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:41] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:44] your supply of eels will come to an end [06:45] no, i have an orbital station with a huge breeding tank [06:45] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [06:45] zoli_ (n=zoli@77.29.191.45) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:49] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: ":q!" [06:50] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196896.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Freedom is secured not by the fulfilling of one's desires, but by the removal of desire. So to a mind that is still, the whol [06:50] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:50] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [06:50] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:51] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) joined ##slackware. [06:53] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:53] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:53] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [06:55] nee-chan (n=x@82-171-26-177.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:58] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [06:59] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:35] the taste of thick, creamy gorilla sperm. [07:35] the taste of thick, chunky clumpy smelly sticky stinky gorilla sperm [07:36] ? [07:36] sperm [07:36] it's amazing [07:36] marcus_ (n=Marcus@d90-134-247-237.cust.tele2.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:40] you seem to have a problem that would be better suited for #twisted-kids [07:44] kama (n=kama@host104-89-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:50] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [07:51] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.48.213) left irc: "Saindo" [07:51] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:54] Action: spook fires an orbital frozen eel cannon at elektr1k [07:55] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net expired. [07:55] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:55] i enjoy warm, creamy hippo sperm [07:55] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [07:55] [Ignore] Added elektr1k!* to your ignore list. [07:56] the chunky clumpy taste of frog sperm [07:56] shooting down my throat... [07:56] spraying horse eggs all over my back. [07:57] alienBOB: we have a looser. [07:57] someone kick this ass [07:58] anyone want to test out my slackbuild? [07:58] dionysian: of what? [07:59] angband [07:59] :) [07:59] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:00] dionysian: I'll pass, but have you submitted it to SBo? [08:00] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [08:01] yes [08:02] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Carrier-Freq: you never seem to respond, but again, you should not irc as root. [08:05] mashpodder looks pretty nice [08:05] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:09] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:12] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) joined ##slackware. [08:14] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:14] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*n=betray*@*.hr.hr.cox.net' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [08:14] elektr1k kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [08:14] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [08:15] another one bites the dust. [08:15] Amen [08:16] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:16] Morning (or afternoon or perhaps evening),folks [08:17] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [08:18] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:19] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:26] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.174.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [08:26] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:27] kama (n=kama@host104-89-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:29] where would i start to debug my kernel config for a fresh install (12.2) on a Dell p4 with an integrated i915? after booting the default kernel, i get a 'nobody cared' error and an irq is disabled. strangely Slax (live cd) boots and loads the mod no problem [08:30] root__ (n=nukedclx@cbz231.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:30] t0f, u cannot modprobe i915 ? [08:31] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] yes [08:33] but every time i switch from X to cli i get that error. i tried disabling vesa fb (cli), same error [08:34] the only way i can get around it is to, before startx, modprobe i830 and modprobe i810 [08:34] but Slax loads i915 like a champ [08:36] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] 'X -configure' gave me this -> BoardName "82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device" [08:37] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) left irc: "Leaving" [08:37] i have no ideia why it wont load [08:37] what error did it bring ? [08:37] i am guessing that it's an x11 config problem, but i dont know [08:37] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:37] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [08:38] hold on DeeeeP i'll goto pastebin [08:38] ok [08:40] sorry, i just noticed that i never captured a cp of that error log, darn. i'll have to boot up the p4 and get back to you [08:40] ok [08:41] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:43] i think i'm becoming an alcoholic [08:43] why u think that [08:44] i've rarely been sober for the last... [08:44] several days? [08:44] so u need to make a test [08:44] 1 month without touching alcohol [08:44] but its my bff's 21st on the 21st [08:45] bff ? [08:45] and drunken jedis at cowboy themed parties are in great demand [08:45] best friend forever [08:45] jiraia (n=jiraia@201-24-176-96.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:46] sorry , cant understand that language 8) [08:46] like, really really really good friends [08:46] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cdb113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:46] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:46] so , u have a friend and usually drink with him [08:47] her 21st birthday is on the 21st of the month, and its a big cowboy themed party [08:47] his name happens to be jack daniels? [08:47] lol [08:47] or jonhy walker [08:48] DeeeeP: you're drunk, too? [08:48] if you can attend the party without drinking more than 3 or 4 drinks (and still have a good time) you're probably not an alcoholic [08:48] no, im clean right now :) [08:48] my other friend is called Sir James Douglas [08:48] Action: lowkyalur passes around some Vodkas. [08:48] vodka + red bull [08:48] its nice [08:49] t0f: good point [08:49] yeah. you don't even notice the vodka. helps poisoning you...:) [08:49] i cant party without drinking non-stop all night long [08:49] i just cant stop :x [08:50] DeeeeP: i was that way in my 30's [08:50] but now i just get away from night and partys [08:50] im 31 [08:50] Action: t0f is 50 something :| [08:51] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:51] lol [08:52] i'm 20 [08:52] 20 is a good age for drinking [08:52] :D [08:52] i quit drinking at the age of 40, and never looked back [08:52] i have a nice healthy fully grown liver to abuse [08:52] so u dont drink for more than 10 years ? [08:53] last Christmas, for the first time, i had 2 glasses of wine with dinner [08:55] if we talk about 'drinking' does that also include beverages < 40%vol in your part of the world? [08:55] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:55] i'm currently drinking 40%vol scotch [08:56] actually, 'near-beer' has SOME alcohol [08:56] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [08:56] orange juice too [08:57] the first sign of alcoholism is not being able to stop until you pass out [08:58] ajrisi (n=user@c-24-91-11-151.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:58] 2nd sign is dringing alone [08:58] drinking* [08:58] well thats 1 out of 2. [08:59] so you still have a chance that you're not spook [09:01] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [09:01] t0f: #1 not necessarily. you can also 'just' drink 4 beer every evening, and you are adicted if you can't without. [09:03] lowkyalur: good point. i was never that type of alcoholic, after work and after dinner, i'd drink until sleep :O [09:03] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-181-4.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [09:03] hi [09:03] nobody drinks 4 beers in the evening and stays like that ... u just keep drinking [09:04] DeeeeP: if you have a screaming wife, you might :) [09:04] < t0f> the first sign of alcoholism is not being able to stop until you pass out [09:04] or RUN OUT [09:04] dionysian: yes [09:05] running out is so much worse [09:05] i never passed out [09:05] yes because you have to walk to buy somemore [09:05] but i've been pretty bad at home , throwing up my stomach :x [09:05] i have a colleague who is like that. he drinks some 4-5 beer, sometimes more, however the most important sign is: at 3pm he usually goes 'home' to the pub...if i schedule a meeting at half tree, he gets unbeliebably nervous and starts talking about the 'dry air in here' [09:06] t0f: driving is faster [09:06] DUI?!?! [09:06] Perfec7 (i=FullT@189.49.48.158) joined ##slackware. [09:06] i buy a fifth of 190 proof Everclear and drink one shotglass in a mixed drink every evening after supper, it takes about 3 weeks to empty a bottle, i been doing this for years [09:06] Pig_Pen: i dont think you need it [09:07] you sir, have a problem [09:07] it does not matter what you think t0f [09:07] drinking 1 glass everyday is not beeing an alcoholic [09:07] Pig_Pen: you misunderstand me [09:08] DeeeeP: if you can't abstain from it, you are. it's just not dangerous or socially stigmatising. [09:08] DeeeeP: actually, alcoholism scales down pretty well... and that's a little over 2 "drinks" worth [09:08] i dont think that you are an alcoholic Pig_Pen [09:09] lowkyalur, agree [09:09] alcohol taken in moderation is good for you, keeps the cholesterol washed out of your blood, (moderation is the key) [09:09] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [09:10] there are plenty of smart people that think all forms of addiction stem from "alcoholism" [09:10] Action: lowkyalur lights another ciggy and grabs some more coffee. [09:10] i'm very addictive by nature [09:11] i quit cigs in 2002 and have not looked back also, but i DO drink 16 ozs of coffee per day [09:11] why so little coffee? [09:11] that's not even a "venti" [09:11] t0f: what is that in real-life units (aka liters)? [09:11] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:11] t0f, how much cigs did u smoke in one day ? [09:11] one mug with my breakfast [09:11] about 24 camel wides [09:12] for 31 years! [09:12] a lot [09:12] omg , lol [09:12] t0f: you need to stop smoking [09:12] he already did [09:12] i did thumbs [09:12] that was quick [09:12] thumbs: stopping is not the problem. not starting is. [09:12] cigarettes are stinky!!! [09:12] lowkyalur: so true [09:12] i quit 2 times [09:12] quiting smoking is pretty easy ... i've quited more than 20 times :X [09:13] I never smoked [09:13] i just recently switched back to hand rolled cigarettes [09:13] this time its 6 years and counting [09:13] for the savings [09:13] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:13] yrah , its cheaper [09:13] a LOT cheaper [09:13] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:14] dionysian: not smoking is cheaper [09:14] of course, the SCHIP bill is going to put a little dent in thatt [09:14] Nick change: Mess[i]ah -> Emess [09:14] thumbs: not in terms of my happiness [09:14] yeah , my only addict is cigs [09:14] get some Bull O' the Woods or Days Work plug chewing tobacco [09:14] i found the coworker extremely grumpy when he tried to stop, yes [09:15] and now he's grumpy all the time [09:15] lowkyalur: i suppose 16 ozs is about .5 liters [09:15] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:15] t0f: ty [09:16] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.151.55) joined ##slackware. [09:16] every time you want a smoke take a little piece of that chewing tobacco and chew on it, i bet you wont want a smoke after that [09:16] not the same thing [09:16] probably a bad idea to tell you this, but, i dont think i could have even quit if i didn't have valium. btw, i dont take valium today [09:17] my addiction to cigarettes is primarily psychological, and tied to the feeling of the smoke hitting my lungs [09:17] t0f: maybe I'll recommend he takes that [09:17] chewing tobacco has no appeal to me [09:17] do you like coughing up brown goo? [09:18] dionysian, same as me [09:18] Pig_Pen: it doesn't bother me [09:18] valium and nicoderm cq [09:18] but i hope one day to quit for good [09:19] i can pretty much quit cold turkey [09:19] DeeeeP: like when they dig you in? [09:19] lol [09:19] hope not [09:20] good luck people. i have to run [09:20] bye [09:20] take care [09:20] smokers sense of smell is numbed, to a non-smoker the smell of cigarettes is disgusting, we can smell it on a smoker from a long ways [09:20] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.174.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: "I'm Gone" [09:20] Pig_Pen: glad i'm not a non-smoker, then! [09:20] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-205-120.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:21] dionysian, but it makes other people go away [09:22] all the better [09:22] including nice chicks :D [09:22] zing. [09:22] girls that smoke already don't seem to mind. [09:23] yeah the stairwell in my apartment building reeks of cigs. =[ [09:23] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [09:23] I know a girl who smokes but can't stand other people's smoke [09:24] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Camarade_Tux: really? [09:24] Camarade_Tux: she should quit too [09:24] thumbs, I'm trying to make her quit yeah [09:25] < Camarade_Tux> including nice chicks :D [09:25] kissing a smoker is like licking a dirty ashtray [09:25] this year she has the most exhausting studies in the world (really), that's why I don't insist too much on that [09:25] give me a bad girl any day of the week ;) [09:25] hahaha [09:25] dionysian: desperate much? [09:25] Pig_Pen, u can always chew a bubble gum :) [09:26] DeeeeP, usually not enough [09:26] i think he will make goog girl out of her... [09:26] :good* [09:26] thumbs: i'm fine with not being able to bring them home to mom [09:26] that's no problem [09:27] this is a family channel, so i'm not going to get into it [09:28] I've slacked enough, time to reboot under slackware >< [09:28] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:28] Camarade_Tux: as opposed to> [09:28] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:28] DeeeeP: the smell goes deeper than a smoker's mouth, it is down in their lungs [09:28] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Pig_Pen, yeah , i know bubble gum wont solve it , just helps [09:30] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [09:31] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:32] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:32] I can attest to that [09:32] my previous ex smoked [09:33] stupid women. [09:33] I should really install openbox, blackbox is nice but lacks a few things that makes the experience pretty bad [09:33] Camarade_Tux: fluxbox! [09:33] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:33] whiskers- (n=whiskers@unaffiliated/sniffle) joined ##slackware. [09:33] Action: Camarade_Tux prefers blackbox to fluxbox [09:33] xfce is nice [09:33] has anyone ever compiled totem on Slackware? ... how do you get it to use the xine backend rather than Gstreamer? - I've tried -disable-gstreamer, nothing... [09:34] actually I prefer anything to fluxbox, I really don't like it [09:34] isnt totem in slackware? [09:34] spook: No, not in 12.1 [09:34] Thurin1, you can have the gstreamer backend without much troubles :) [09:34] Camarade_Tux: I don't want the Gstreamer backend - Gstreamer is horrible, especially with WMV. [09:34] rolfo (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Thurin1, ok [09:35] Thurin1: you sure? [09:35] whiskers- (n=whiskers@unaffiliated/sniffle) left irc: "-" [09:35] Thurin1: what about mplayer? [09:35] Xine plays almost everything except for the newest codecs but most of it's front ends suck... no 'repeat' [09:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [09:35] spook: I have Mplayer but again - no repeat, the only one that does have repeat is Smplayer but I'm not installing QT4 just for a media player [09:35] the problem of the video-audio codecs are the same as the problem of the kind of doc format. [09:36] Thurin1: ummmm man mplayer [09:36] it has repeat. [09:36] spook: Not in the front end [09:36] you mean gmplayer [09:36] Yeah [09:37] vlc [09:37] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:37] Well obviously if I want to use repeat I'm going to be watching short clips ;) - and really I'm not going to write commands everytime I want to switch clips [09:37] dionysian: Vlc is good and bad.. [09:38] It's good but when it repeats it leaves fullscreen - closes, and opens again --- annoying. [09:38] hmm [09:38] Oh [09:38] Kaffeine does it will [09:38] And I re-installed KDElibs for k3b [09:38] hrmm.. [09:38] :) [09:38] well* [09:39] i like totem for general video watching [09:39] So do I [09:39] downloaded tv shows and whatnot [09:39] But it's a massive pain to compile [09:40] In fact almost anything Gnome related is a pain in the ass to compile. [09:40] fati (n=brian@71.238.167.164) joined ##slackware. [09:40] That's why I said to hell with it'' and installed k3b instead of brasero [09:40] k3b is nice [09:41] Yes, it is far superior to brasero [09:41] BUT* It breaks the gtk look of my desktop.. [09:41] I was trying to keep everything as GTK based as possible [09:41] Hrm.. [09:41] Is there anything similar to the gtk-qt-engine for gtk? [09:41] Make my kde apps look gtk? [09:41] i'm not sure [09:42] btw, isn't there a static build of smplayer ? [09:42] but i was going to end up looking for something like that at some point [09:42] i wanted amarok to fit in [09:42] but i've been mostly using the console lately [09:42] dionysian: I usually use the console as well - but I doubt too many people would download a console only based distro from me [09:43] :P [09:43] Ok, Kaff is building yay.. [09:43] I might as well use the kdelibs if I had to reinstall them.. [09:44] Thurin1: oh, you're building a distro [09:44] ? [09:44] But it said it is building with the gstreamer player support (I compiled gstreamer stuff for brasero) hopefully it's using XINE and NOT gstreamer as the main engine... I really hate Gstreamer. [09:44] dionysian: Yeah [09:44] for what purpose? [09:44] dionysian: For my personal lulz [09:44] cool [09:45] I built one from LFS but LFS init scripts suck too much. [09:45] So slackware is probably the best base [09:45] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] I'd also like to add a PBI type installer [09:45] :) [09:45] Have you ever used PC-BSD? [09:45] no [09:46] They have a windows like installer system - it's pretty neat [09:46] Although I personally do not like the windows installer method a lot of other people do so I think porting PBI's to linux would be a good thing. [09:46] It's pretty much a graphical install for a statically compiled binary .. [09:47] I hope that when I die, people say about me, 'Boy, that guy sure owed me a lot of money.' [09:48] that made me laugh! i found it at /. [09:49] toytoy_ (n=dindin@222.127.248.89) joined ##slackware. [09:49] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:49] Nick change: toytoy_ -> toytoy [09:54] erm. using premade lfs init scripts totally defeats the purpose of LFS [09:55] disagre; writing init scripts is boring [09:57] sure but you should write your own at least once, then modify it to suit in future [10:02] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [10:02] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:03] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:03] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [10:03] openbox :) [10:04] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [10:06] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [10:08] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [10:09] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [10:11] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left ##slackware. [10:11] lfs has some value even if you use some premade init scripts [10:12] you can create a super small, super quick system [10:12] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:13] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [10:13] mtu (n=mbueker@dslb-088-071-010-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] anyone here ever built firefox in a slackware-friendly way (i.e. with a .tgz at the end)? [10:13] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-94-184.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:13] yep [10:14] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.132.129) joined ##slackware. [10:15] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*n=betray*@*.hr.hr.cox.net expired. [10:15] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*n=betray*@*.hr.hr.cox.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:15] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:15] thrice`: i'd like a pentium2 optimized build for my craptop for fun and profit. you got some howto or build script? [10:16] along the tracks, not across them [10:16] i've built it on slamd64, which uses a buildscript (though it will need tweaking). also, building on a pentium2 will probably take 3 hours or so [10:17] probably more ;) but i'd build on my main machine, just install on the lappie [10:17] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:18] i think firefox is too much of a hog for a craptop [10:18] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.179) left irc: "leaving" [10:19] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [10:19] dionysian: been running it on that machine for a while, worked okay. hoping it will be better with an optimized build [10:19] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [10:20] oh, ok [10:20] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl5-108-217.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:20] i'd think it would facerape your memory [10:21] 300M handled it okay [10:21] Seamonkey [10:21] :D [10:21] I downgraded to Seamonkey stable from Firefox 3 this morning [10:22] Firefox 3 has too much bugs still [10:22] seamonkey really is snappier [10:22] Eventually full screen flash just dies with segfaults [10:22] In firefox3* [10:22] spook: It is. [10:22] Seamonkey is underrated [10:22] i've been using it too [10:22] what's seamonkey? [10:23] it uses gecko, same renderer as firefox [10:23] its also maintained by mozilla [10:23] seamonkey is the new name for mozilla [10:23] seamonkey rules [10:23] what's the difference with firefox? [10:23] maxote, seamonkey it's a suite [10:23] Anyways I do not think that I will return to Firefox until it's stable.. - it's become slow and buggy. [10:23] maxote: it's not community supported [10:23] Firefox is good if you need the extensions though [10:23] maxote, it has mail client.. calendar and stuff [10:24] Seamonkey is like a boring version of Firefox (browser wise.) [10:24] netscape -> mozilla -> seamonkey [10:24] essentially just a name change [10:25] Yeah [10:25] and now it's community maintained [10:25] mantained [10:25] Why does Rhianna's 'SOS' make a Slackware commercial run through my head? [10:25] a slackware commercial? [10:26] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.151.55) left irc: "leaving" [10:26] does seamonkey run extensions meant for forefox? [10:26] *firefox [10:26] dionysian: Yeah [10:26] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-214-30.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:26] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [10:26] Everytime I listen to this song I can't help but picture a Slackware commercial.. I don't know why... [10:27] i've never heard of a slackware commercial [10:27] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [10:29] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [10:29] I don't think one exists [10:30] hmm... i have a shell script that's trying to wget some password protected files [10:30] CcK (n=cck@dryades.org) joined ##slackware. [10:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM0DL5giOBU [10:31] Hahaha. [10:31] dionysian: so? you can put in a username / password to wget [10:31] thrice`: i don't want to save my password in plain text [10:33] thrice`: could you hook me up with the build script you said you used? [10:34] http://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/slamd64/slamd64-current/source/xap/mozilla-firefox/ [10:34] thanks [10:34] you'll have to replace some stuff in the .PHBuild [10:35] slamd64 stores some common variables (like TMP, PKG, ARCH) and sources them at the beginning [10:35] /etc/pkghelpers i reckon [10:35] yup :) [10:36] http://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/slamd64/slamd64-current/source/d/pkghelpers/etc/pkghelpers.d/ [10:36] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [10:37] to see what they are [10:37] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.209.222) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [10:37] yep [10:38] be (n=chattr@062016133078.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [10:38] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [10:39] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: Client Quit [10:40] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) joined ##slackware. [10:40] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. 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[11:01] i'll look into that [11:01] never used it, i don't think [11:01] CcK (n=cck@dryades.org) left irc: "dispose(CcK);" [11:02] i dont use curl, but i hear it has more features than wget [11:05] *shrug* gotta go, boobie horn [11:06] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.102.8) joined ##slackware. [11:07] nvision (n=nvision@g229119008.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:10] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [11:10] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:10] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-181-4.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Excess Flood [11:12] High_Priest (n=Mean@cable-89-216-181-4.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [11:14] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:14] http://pastebin.com/m5999c8e0 [11:14] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [11:15] i'm even more drunk now [11:15] spook: don't drink and root! [11:15] lol [11:15] am i root? [11:16] nah, just saying [11:16] no i'm spook [11:16] oh root [11:16] i get it lol [11:16] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:16] hehehe drunk relativity [11:17] hmmm, how to take scotch to uni tomorrow [11:17] does scotch eat through plastic? [11:17] get a flask [11:17] those have style [11:17] spook: store it in your blood [11:17] lol [11:18] Action: nooper still doesn't know how to pronounce suse [11:19] sooza, soose, suze? [11:19] get an IV bag with a tube, put the bag in a large pocket and hide the tube just below the neckline in your shirt, whenever you want a drink just put the tube in your mouth and give the bag a gentle squeeze [11:19] sue sa [11:19] nooper: it's german, so it's "soozeh" [11:19] spook: why can't you just take the fricken bottle? you in the US? [11:20] thanks [11:20] actually... [11:20] snowdonkey (n=bennett@c-98-227-222-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] nooper: make that "zoozeh" [11:20] the USA is a nation of laws poorly written and randomly enforced - Frank Zappa [11:21] i dont have a flask, i need one [11:21] the bottle is glass about half empty and heavy [11:22] http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/mugs/8b8c/ [11:22] plus its hard to pour from the bottle easily into like, cans etc [11:22] Hi. I'm trying to compile tkimg 1.3 and I get "configure: error: Compiler does not use stdarg.h, required for TIFF". I tried to disable TIFF by using --disable-tiff --without-tiff but neither work. Can someone tell me what I have to do? [11:22] how about coffee thermos? [11:22] all the ones i hvae have drinking holes that cant be closed [11:22] Pig_Pen: makes it take on the taste of coffee [11:23] coffee & booze mix well [11:23] i'll be mixing with softdrink [11:23] tru dat [11:23] so the water bottle nozzle will help with sneaking it into a can [11:23] snowdonkey: do other things compile okay? [11:23] mtu, Yes, no problems compiling any other programs. [11:24] i hope the economic disaster we are currently in force the feds to legalize MaryJane [11:24] lol! [11:24] Pig_Pen: not while the baby boomers are alive. [11:24] Pig_Pen: why would that be? [11:24] legalize,regulate and tax like alchohol [11:25] dope wont be legal until the majority of old people are from our generation. [11:25] yup, pot is taxable product, but they got to legalize it if they want to get tax money from it [11:25] snowdonkey: could be you app was made for older compilers or something.. .sorry, no idea besides google the error and look around [11:26] mtu, Ok, thx. [11:26] how can i enable write and execute on partition for a user? [11:26] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:26] as root? [11:26] pupit: do you have a hammer? [11:26] no [11:27] yo reburned the slack cd #1 and now ralink works hehe [11:27] madbear: bad md5sum? [11:27] pupit: do you have any powertools? [11:28] thumbs: i used disk 1 and 2 from linuxformat dvd... [11:28] looooool [11:28] madbear: come again? [11:28] im trying to make a virtual hard disk wiht vbox and there is a write error.. [11:28] linuxformat is full of sooooooooooooo much fud it is not funny [11:28] spook: lol [11:28] i bought an issue once and lol'ed so hard reading it [11:29] snowdonkey (n=bennett@c-98-227-222-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [11:29] madbear: ah, a magazine [11:29] yeah [11:29] madbear: could be a bad burn [11:30] i guess so [11:30] spook: it cathers to the general populace, what do you expect? [11:30] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [11:31] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) joined ##slackware. [11:31] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.48.213) joined ##slackware. [11:31] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.159.75) joined ##slackware. [11:33] something technically accurate [11:33] whats the best for a HP printer? CUPS? [11:34] spook: not all writers are competent, nor obligated to tell the truth [11:34] pirving: HP support is pretty good in linux [11:35] or the printer wizzard in kde? [11:35] heh [11:35] pirving: use cups [11:35] ok [11:35] pirving: the kde printer wizard is just a frontend that configures CUPS [11:36] I haven't started cups yet. should I put a line in my rc.local? [11:36] what does this do? [11:36] sed "s/%\(..\)/\$(printf \"\\\\x\\1\")/g" [11:36] check top, usually cups is loaded automatically [11:36] nope [11:37] if you installed cups you should have a /etc/rc.d/rc.cups [11:37] pirving: chmod rc.cups +x, and run it [11:37] mtu (n=mbueker@dslb-088-071-010-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [11:39] once cups is started, it can be accessed with your browser: http://localhost:631/admin [11:39] dionysian: it takes a string %YY (two characters in the place of the Y's) and changes it to $(printf "\xYY") [11:41] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:42] Basically it converts a HEX character to the ASCII equivalent [11:42] ok, so it's trying to reformat something so that bash doesn't fail on it [11:42] Perhaps. [11:43] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.5) left irc: ":wq" [11:44] Perfec7 (i=FullT@189.49.48.158) left ##slackware. [11:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:54] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [11:54] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [11:54] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-201-105.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:55] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:56] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Afternoon slackers. [11:58] afternoon? [11:58] oh nevermind, the last 4 days i've been drinking all hours of the day so time has no meaning [11:59] pirving_ (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:59] spook, What are you drinking? [11:59] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:59] Thurin1, you buying then? [12:00] I have a bottle of beer (the big ones) that I uncapped last week.. the remainder is in the fridge.. If I had the rest what do you think would happen? [12:00] dive, Only if you gots boobs [12:00] man boobs [12:00] Thurin1: scotch [12:00] dive, hah, no. [12:00] heh [12:00] spook, Wow.. you're going hardcore.. [12:01] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:01] i was mixing it with coke but i ran out [12:01] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [12:01] I see.. [12:01] drink it neat ;p [12:02] or maybe with ice [12:02] I stay away from booze.. it always makes me wake up with a rushed up heart beat and the beat is in my head.. not fun. [12:02] still summer down under spook? [12:02] i'm drinking it straight [12:02] dive: yeah fuck aye it is [12:02] nice - grey and miserable here [12:02] Summer! Yay, I can't wait.. [12:02] usual english weather [12:02] Only one more month of Winter.. [12:03] i like winter more [12:03] spook, wtf is wrong with you? [12:03] What's to like about winter? [12:03] It's cold, no mini-skirts, you can't do anything outside.. it sucks. [12:03] girls dont wear stockings in summer, thats why. [12:03] Haha [12:03] how would i get sed to turn file(2009-01-10).txt into file\(2009-01-10\).txt? [12:04] it complains if i just do s/\(/\\\\(/g [12:04] The file name? [12:04] huh i dont get it [12:04] Why not just mv it [12:04] mv this.that this.new [12:04] Much simpler no? [12:04] he probally wants to do lots [12:04] or script it [12:05] Ah [12:05] yeah i'm trying to fix a bug in a script i downloaded [12:05] ignore the "turn a file" bit [12:05] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:05] bed now [12:05] i just need to figure out how to get sed to not interperet a ( [12:05] I think you have too many \ in it [12:06] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:06] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [12:07] yes, one too many there [12:07] it complains if i do s/\(/\\\(/g [12:07] because it's interpreting the ( [12:07] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4565762.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:08] dionysian, do you put the expressions in a file or do you use sed -e s/... ? [12:08] "sed 's/(/\\(/'" [12:08] Camarade_Tux: it's using sed -e [12:09] enclose your expression in single quotes (as dive just did) : -e 's/.../.../' [12:09] ok i'll try that [12:11] no, that's not working [12:11] dionysian, you don't need escape the bracket you're sedding [12:11] ie the first one [12:11] what I typed works here: ls abc* | sed 's/(/\\(/g' [12:11] i still get complaints about Unmatched ( or \( [12:11] and I have a file abc(def.txt [12:12] or abc(def).txt [12:12] dionysian, my comment was more a general advice, not using single quotes often makes sed'ing a nightmare [12:12] actually I find that double quotes often works better [12:13] but I always use single if I can [12:14] hmm [12:14] double quotes won't prevent the shell from interpreting parenthesis iirc [12:15] doesn't work with " " [12:15] only ' ' [12:15] I thought it had something to do with variable expansion too [12:19] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [12:20] when I don't want the shell to touch anything I use ' ' [12:20] and when there is a $var inside what I'm quoting, I cry in despair :) [12:21] yeah ' ' forces it as a string, lke you say it stops shell interpreting ('s and other chanracters [12:21] try sed 's|\(|\\\(|g' [12:22] Camarade_Tux, semi-colons too, semi-colons are evil little critters :> [12:23] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:23] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "reboot" [12:26] cool - I used to have a wav play when I have new mail, now I have flite tell me which folder it's in :) [12:26] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] Evening guys. How do I configure my sound ? [12:27] you can tell the semicolon is evil because it has that evil eye look about it, winking at you like it knows you know it did something wrong and you cant do anything about it [12:27] dusty, alsaconf [12:27] Pig_Pen, "I know what you did last sentence." [12:28] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:29] i have a pot of homemade chili made with buffalo (north american bison) hot & spicy! [12:29] mm nice :) [12:29] OK I did that last night and was able to hear sound from websites, but can't seem to get the system sounds to work. [12:29] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [12:29] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [12:29] kde system sounds? [12:30] artsd running dusty? [12:30] I am not using KDE, I am using gsb-gnome. [12:31] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "reboot   [www.t7ds.com.br]" [12:31] ah, nevermind then, i dont use gnome so i dont have a clue, maybe esd? [12:32] i messed up in xinit [12:32] i have links all over the place :S [12:33] rworkman, will next slack have xfce 4.6.x in it? Just thinking about the lack of menu editor to be honest and whether it would be better off in extra? [12:33] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:33] of course the next slackware will have xfce 4.6 [12:34] dive: lack of a menu editor is not going to hold it back ; sorry . [12:34] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [12:34] ok [12:35] Hello, world! [12:36] SIGSEGV [12:38] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] how would i install vmware to slack? [12:40] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [12:40] lowkyalur: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=virtualbox [12:40] ;) [12:41] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] xfce's menu is in /etc/xdg/ it is in xml format, not very difficult to edit, if you understand html tags you can learn xml easily [12:42] BP{k}: how much disk space will this monster need? [12:42] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] hey BP{k} [12:44] lowkyalur: UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE: 72880 K (for virtualbox-ose) [12:44] Hey guys what are everyone's thought's about package management, (I am from a debian background using apt-get..) so there is slackpkg / slapt-get are these ok to use? Will they take care of security patches etc ? [12:44] lw0x15: good afternoon. :) [12:44] BP{k}: tyvm [12:44] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [12:44] dusty: yes, slackpkg handles official slackware repos for security / bug fixes [12:45] there's just no dependency resolution [12:46] well no. [12:46] dionysian: it's a feature! [12:46] OK sweet, I have been using that one, but gsb-gnome installed slapt-get how does this one pan out ? [12:46] its similar to apt-get so it grabs my attention but i'm worried it may be bad. [12:47] BP{k}: well, it shifts some responsibility to the user [12:47] dionysian: yes. [12:47] with freedom comes responsibility, i think the saying goes [12:47] slapt-get isn [12:47] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [12:48] well I've reinstalled xfce 4.6 so I better get used to it I guess [12:48] uhm no "With great power comes great responsibility" is the saying. First cued by spiderman ;) [12:48] heh [12:48] dive: minus the obvious menu editor .. what don't you like? I think it's a great improvement overall [12:48] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:49] thrice`, my only other annoyance is that I can't just have an application menu alone on right click - aka the old way [12:49] but that's not really a problem [12:49] ah; I also prefer the old, personally. [12:50] I use a movable panel with most used apps on it [12:50] so no biggy [12:50] dionysian: Having that type of control about your system and how you handle it, is one of the things that attracts most people to Slackware in the first place. [12:50] right [12:50] i agree [12:50] that's why i use it [12:50] anyway I spend most my time in console and just boot X for a few things like firefox and ooo [12:51] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [12:51] why not use X in the first place ? u got console there too [12:51] u short on resources ? [12:52] DeeeeP, because I don't need it and just prefer running stuff in console in screen [12:52] u need firefox [12:52] so u need X :) [12:52] and my cpu hardly ever gets over 600mhz [12:53] DeeeeP, only for 2 websites - I use elinks 99% of the time [12:53] lol [12:53] but to copy things from my bank to spreadsheet needs x [12:53] and the open university forums don't work either in elinks [12:54] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] greetings and salutations [12:54] BP{k}: have you tried 4.6 yet? :> [12:54] hi andarius [12:54] DeeeeP, when I used X all the time I spent more time working in an xterm/yakuake anyway - so it just makes more sense not boot X up in the first place until I need it [12:55] salutations thrice` [12:55] hi andarius [12:55] salutatins dive [12:56] thrice`: not 4.6 final, last I used was: xfce-r29405 [12:57] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Operation timed out [12:58] how to enable users to write and execute a partition? [12:59] chmod 777 / -> im joking [12:59] AbortRet1yFail (n=arf@scourge.esoterica.us) joined ##slackware. [12:59] i have already tried that in my case.. [13:00] u dont need to give permissions to a partition just the dirs u want [13:01] blah [13:01] pupit: what kind of partition? [13:01] rworkman: vfat partition [13:01] pupit: http://slackwiki.org/Windows_Partitions [13:01] thanks [13:01] DeeeeP: thanks [13:02] Re Xfce 4.6.0, I'm rebuilding my package now with a fix for a terminal bug and an orage fix I left off on accident [13:02] ok [13:03] rworkman: you use the automount with xfce, right? [13:03] rworkman: thanks a LOT! thats what i was looking for! [13:04] thumbs: yes [13:04] thumbs: thunar-volman plugin [13:04] rworkman: ah, thanks. [13:04] I'm hoping to include that and xfce4-power-manager in Slackware this time [13:04] rworkman: I was looking to mimic the KDE behaviour. [13:04] yah, that's what you want then [13:04] thanks [13:04] Guy's I have a confession to make... [13:04] rworkman: you rock [13:04] http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/12.2/xfce46/ [13:04] slackware makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.. =] [13:05] dusty: welcome to our world [13:05] Thank you =] [13:05] Action: rworkman adds some lemon to dusty - this will make things even warmer soon. [13:05] heh [13:06] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: No route to host [13:06] you know like when you walk into a room and forget why you went there? I just switched vt's and forgot what I was gonna do. Getting old I guess... [13:06] |vinnie_| (n=kvirc@c-98-223-41-15.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Action: thumbs is happy again [13:08] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Which CPU scaling kernel module do I need to load for this kernel: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+, I am in the neccessary directory.. [13:12] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [13:12] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060040ca732372.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] makerc (n=makerc@200-158-27-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:13] AbortRetryFail (n=arf@scourge.esoterica.us) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] Nick change: root__ -> nx [13:14] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [13:14] dive: I have dozens of screen sessions on my server like that [13:14] XpliCT (n=rumenovs@77.29.180.126) joined ##slackware. [13:14] dive: what the hell did I start here on that day... ? [13:15] Which module for that processor anyone ? [13:15] caringee (n=chatzill@38.119.107.110) joined ##slackware. [13:16] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [13:17] RobertF (n=fred@2001:41d0:1:df47:0:0:0:2009) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Hello [13:17] how to add an ipv6 address to an interface? [13:17] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-179-64.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:18] !ipv6 [13:19] add addr/prefixlen [13:19] Add an IPv6 address to an interface [13:19] that's cp from ifconfig man [13:19] DeeeeP: i can add it manually or not automaticly [13:19] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:19] u want to add it manually , right [13:20] siiiifff (n=dd@host86-152-32-181.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:20] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] DeeeeP: i want to add it automaticly too [13:20] siiiifff (n=dd@host86-152-32-181.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:20] RobertF, u can script it on rc.local , when u find out the exact syntax for it [13:20] XpliCT (n=rumenovs@77.29.180.126) left irc: "shutdown -h now" [13:21] but maybe someone have a better way of doing it [13:21] fdfdffdfdggggg (n=dd@host86-152-32-181.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] dusty, have you tried acpi_cpufreq? [13:21] does anybody know how to make skype video work with xcompmgr (got really bad flickering) [13:21] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE772C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] nope [13:22] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [13:22] 'modprobe acpi_cpufreq' then try 'echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' [13:23] if ondemand is the one you want [13:23] and it is the one you want [13:24] Yes ondemand is the one I want, I was just wondering which kernel module is the one for my processor. [13:24] (I am following the wiki) [13:24] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [13:24] dusty, cpufreq is a module for acpi, not any particular processor [13:24] acpi does the work [13:25] what's acpi? [13:25] does that scaling works with any processor ? [13:25] if the processor supports it [13:25] acpi is the daemon that runs in the background and picks up system events [13:25] advanced configuration and power interface [13:26] acpi*d* ! :D [13:26] rworkman: You helped! :) [13:26] lowkyalur, is there a flag in /proc/cpuinfo or something to know if it supports ? [13:26] pupit: is the implication that I usually don't? [13:26] no, [13:26] im just happy! [13:26] :D [13:27] :) [13:27] dusty, in short acpi is power management for any new system [13:27] /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq <-- I need to load a module form there.. which one for my processor? [13:27] drmanhattan3232 (n=35354232@189-68-140-28.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:27] 2.6.27.7-smp [13:27] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.209.222) joined ##slackware. [13:27] quick poll : anyone has libxz or liblzma on his system ? [13:28] (I bet the answer will be no fwiwà [13:28] s/à/)/ [13:28] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.159.75) left irc: "leaving" [13:28] Camarade_Tux: I don't [13:28] no [13:28] dusty, you shouldn't need to modprobe any of those for a default slack config [13:28] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Camarade_Tux: i just installed slackware, so no [13:29] dusty, it's the echo command I posted earlier that chooses which governor to use [13:29] weird .. I have p7zip I should have liblzma [13:29] dusty: yes, when you modprobe acpi-cpufreq, it creates the appropriate location in /sys for you to echo your governor [13:29] cpu MHz : 800.000 [13:29] :) it scaled it from 2Ghz [13:29] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] this will definitely extend the battery life of my laptop [13:30] where can i read about cpu-scaling ? [13:30] he, I was sure nobody had them [13:30] Camarade_Tux: I have lzma [13:30] wikipedia? [13:30] thanks [13:30] model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz [13:30] do you want me to type cpu-scaling linux into google, or you can manage it? :) [13:30] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] cpu MHz : 800.000 [13:30] dive, http://rafb.net/p/czdv6Z59.html =[ [13:30] rworkman, why did you install it ? [13:30] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] Camarade_Tux: doesn't 7z.so also mean lzma ? [13:30] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-150-248.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [13:30] What a strange question Camarade_Tux [13:30] cpu MHz : 2310.449 [13:30] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:30] :[ [13:30] Camarade_Tux: testing something - trying to get rpm with lzma support [13:30] being maxed out [13:30] DeeeeP: in kernel docs [13:30] i need ondemand working [13:31] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] dusty: are you compiling something? [13:31] ok [13:31] lol no [13:31] just xchat, and gnome. [13:31] duryodhan_, right but not the library part unfortunately [13:31] that is using xchat and gnome not compiling them ;-] [13:31] alienBOB, why ? [13:31] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:31] Camarade_Tux: iirc 7zip uses lzma and p7zip package on slackbuilds is a library [13:32] rworkman, ok, thanks, that could make it with *suse users if liblzma wasn't only decompression =/ [13:32] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:32] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] dusty: run lsmod, and see if the module is being used. [13:32] dusty, which machine is this? [13:33] RobertF (n=fred@2001:41d0:1:df47:0:0:0:2009) left irc: "leaving" [13:33] http://rafb.net/p/lud6Th60.html nope [13:33] duryodhan_, the library is not nice to use (underdocumented and decompression doesn't seem to have the interface I want) [13:33] saying 'no such device' is a bad sign [13:33] Camarade_Tux: long story short, I was unsuccessful, I think, but I can't say for sure. If someone (you?) wants to play around with it and make it work, feel free [13:33] dive, i'll paste cpuinfo now. [13:33] taquito_ (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] dive, http://rafb.net/p/Rfjnet73.html [13:34] |vinnie_| (n=kvirc@c-98-223-41-15.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [13:34] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:34] dusty, what make is your laptop? [13:34] for i in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/* ; do modprobe $(basename $i .ko) ; done [13:35] dusty: do that^^ then find out which one loaded [13:35] well that's a sexy command ;-] [13:35] for i in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/* ; do modprobe $(basename $i .ko) && echo $(basename $i .ko) loaded ; done [13:35] rworkman, I wanted to have access to lzma compression from ocaml (the programming language) but it seems nobody has any lib that supports lzma so I'll probably end up writing the whole algorithm in ocaml [13:35] taquito_ (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:35] rworkman, what will that do ? [13:35] (that should be fun :p ) [13:35] dusty: it will try to load each of the cpufreq backend modules [13:36] hopefully at least one will work [13:36] uh oh [13:36] Camarade_Tux: check with the lzma guys at tukaani.org and see what their status is [13:36] http://rafb.net/p/Unf6ys25.html [13:37] rworkman, yeah, I have just opened #tukaani and am gonna ask (the channel is nearly empty) [13:37] Why "uh oh" ?? Do you see lines 11 and 14? [13:37] for i in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/* ; do modprobe $(basename $i .ko) 2>/dev/null && echo $(basename $i .ko) loaded ; done [13:37] dusty: run it that way and see if it's any clearer... [13:38] lol your god damn amazing [13:38] thats sweet [13:38] dusty: ? [13:38] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:38] just like those commands shell scripting [13:38] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Maybe someday the kernel will be able to generate the needed uevents for that stuff to be autoloaded by udev [13:38] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-150-248.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:39] |vinnie_| (n=kvirc@c-98-223-41-15.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Every 2.0s: grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo Sun Mar 1 18:39:23 2009 [13:39] cpu MHz : 1000.000 [13:39] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:39] Channel flood from dusty -- kicking [13:39] yay ;-] [13:39] dusty kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:39] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Sorry. [13:40] So, I need to load those two modules and echo "ondemand" on boot and everythings safe ? [13:40] dusty, not add the command to modprobe those 2 modules to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-2.6.27.7-smp [13:40] my laptop just gained 50 minutes because of that [13:40] s/not/now [13:41] I find the ondemand governor pretty sucky ... the laptop becomes too slow [13:41] duryodhan_: I value battery life over speed. [13:41] drmanhattan3232 (n=35354232@189-68-140-28.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [13:42] thumbs: I do too .. but the tradeoff is too much for me with ondemand .. I just use userland and set it by hand [13:42] dive, add the echo to /etc/modprobe.conf and the modules to that path you pasted? [13:42] :D [13:42] dusty, no, put the echo command in /etc/rc.d/rc.local [13:42] ok [13:42] thanks a lot guys [13:42] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Success [13:42] dusty: modprobe.conf as the name suggests tells which modules to load [13:42] and modprobe command in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-2.6.27.7-smp [13:43] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl78-145.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:43] but it is depracated [13:43] yes don't use it [13:43] Action: duryodhan_ looked up the spelling of deprecated but still typed it wrong [13:43] duryodhan_: no, it doesn't [13:44] rworkman: ? [13:44] it allows you options for modules [13:44] /etc/modprobe.conf *is* deprecated, more or less, in favor of /etc/modprobe.d/* -- however, none of those files tell modules *to load* [13:44] yeah .. I remembered it tells options [13:44] :$ [13:44] my bad [13:45] /etc/modprobe.d/* defines module options and blacklists and even advanced stuff like "if modalias blah is called, load module bleh first, then unload old_blah, then load blah" [13:45] ohh [13:46] OK, all sorted. Thanks guys. [13:46] yw [13:47] dusty: actually reading the manpage it seems you can do the echo inside the modprobe.d folder, and make sure that everytime that module is loaded you load the ondemand governor [13:47] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:48] i'm going to try out tircd [13:48] I have done it through rc.local now. =] [13:48] mtl (i=mtl@pox.fi) left ##slackware. [13:48] jjholt (n=ceirc@ppp-70-226-113-90.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060040ca732372.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:49] rworkman: wow .. that directory _is_ powerful [13:50] and it's a lot easier to use than putting everything in modprobe.conf [13:50] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:50] less clutter [13:50] dive: more fun :) [13:52] jjholt (n=ceirc@ppp-70-226-113-90.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:54] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host212-197-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:54] nvision (n=nvision@g229119008.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [13:57] npad|home (n=nick@pool-173-66-2-167.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "windows" [13:59] when i change a kernel driver inside linux/driver/media/video/* how can I properly reconfigure the kernel so it mounts the new configured driver? [13:59] if you run cpan as a regular user, does it "install" everything in ~, so it can just be rm -rf if you want to get rid of it? [13:59] I did a make SUBDIRS=drivers/media/video/gspc modules [14:00] is there anything else I need to do to make slackware use the custom module? [14:00] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:01] ta8___o_8 (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [14:05] i think its time to shape my beard more [14:05] caringee (n=chatzill@38.119.107.110) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [14:07] ta____o_8 (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] i shape my beard with a disposable razor every day :D [14:07] npad|home: it doesn't load the newone when you just restart ? [14:08] i dont know if it reloads, i changed couple lines in that module [14:08] and what do you mean by 'restart' [14:08] rmmod / insmod ? [14:08] rmmod / insmod works it loads the module [14:08] i tried growing a beard, but it itches too much, i only grow a mustache [14:09] must be feas [14:09] but the application that relies on that module still complains on same error, so I have no idea if that application is using that module or the old one somewhere else [14:09] npad|home: when you changed the module, you recompiled right? I don't think you can start using the new module without using a newer kernel .. [14:09] rmmod and insmod are evil, chances are they'll fail, better cp the .ko into /lib/modules, run depmod and then modprobe or modprobe -r ! [14:09] I haven't done much kernel development .. so above are imho [14:10] ok see if cp to /lib/modules helps [14:11] but it just points back to same place where the module sits [14:11] it ends up going to /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/build/drivers/media/video/gspca/* [14:12] all I did was "make SUBDIRS=drivers/media/video/gspca/ modules" after hacking the gspca_ov519.c file [14:12] and it compiled [14:13] but... where do all the .ko files go? is there one dir it all goes to? [14:13] do i need to do 'make modules_install' ?? [14:13] will it break anything? [14:14] i'm trying to make my facial hair jedi-ish [14:14] Nick change: nx -> nukedclx [14:14] 'RAM usage: 24585 MB', hmmmm [14:14] Nick change: |vinnie_| -> vinnie_ [14:14] spook, im growing beard and its surely winning attentions among peers :) [14:14] spook: then die it orange, you will. [14:16] npad|home, you can put the .ko into /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/misc iirc [14:16] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] braid it and put beads in it [14:19] or burning pieces of rope in it like Blackbeard [14:20] npad|home, was doing something else so didn't pay much attention but if you hacked the gspca driver from .27.7, you can probably just issue 'modprobe -r gspca' (I actually don't know how is the module called), 'make modules_install' (and maybe run depmod if make install_modules doesn't already) and 'modprobe gspca' [14:20] what does 'make modules_install' do that cping the .ko myself cant do? [14:20] that will reload a shiny new module [14:21] http://imagebin.org/39711 [14:21] ok [14:21] Pig_Pen: that's satanic, not jedi-ish. [14:22] npad|home, make modules_install does something you can't do : do the whole operation properly ;p [14:22] lol [14:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:23] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:23] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [14:24] g'day [14:24] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [14:24] hi NyteOwl [14:24] wassup? [14:24] cold outside [14:25] fdfdffdfdggggg (n=dd@host86-152-32-181.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:25] now, make modules_install prints bunch or errors [14:25] it cannot find all those arc/* modules, whatever that is [14:25] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [14:25] and I only compiled subdir where the video driver was [14:25] since bash 4.0 is not critical security update, will 12.1 be getting a package for it? [14:25] npad|home, compile everything [14:26] that's the kernel, better safe than sorry ;) [14:26] Action: Camarade_Tux leaves, bye [14:26] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:27] RobertF (n=fred@2001:41d0:1:df47:0:0:0:2082) joined ##slackware. [14:27] nooper: no [14:28] Pig_Pen: cold here today too - rained yesterday so of course it had to freeze :) [14:29] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:30] npad|home: compile everything and restart with new kernel [14:30] maybe you want to do UserModeLinux or develop inside a VM [14:30] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:30] and how do you know its not using the new module? you added a printk right ? [14:31] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [14:31] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] no I didnt add a printk. thats a good idea... I've never hacked a module before [14:32] let me do that [14:32] RobertF (n=fred@2001:41d0:1:df47:0:0:0:2082) left irc: "leaving" [14:35] arg I see gspca_ov519.mod.c instead of gspca_ov519.c as it was before when i hacked it [14:35] make modules changed the .c to .mod.c [14:35] how do I get it back [14:36] make mrproper modules [14:36] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] i did a 'make clean' it went back [14:37] I wasnt sure what 'make clean' would do [14:37] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [14:37] tried my luck [14:37] but make clean involves mproper modules, looks like? [14:39] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:58] i just installed a bowl of chili in to my tummy :D [14:59] this has got to be the most awesome way of using twitter [14:59] mmm chili [14:59] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:00] twitter heh [15:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Pig_Pen: awesome, I love chili! [15:02] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [15:02] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:02] hitest: i made homemade chili using buffalo meat (north american bison) [15:03] buffalo smells a little bit like wild game when cooking but once cooked it tastes like beef with less fat in it [15:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] mmm chilli [15:12] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:15] yummy! [15:16] i want horse chilli [15:16] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@74-47-129-229.dr02.mdtw.ny.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:16] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) joined ##slackware. [15:17] horse is good. i've had horse steaks once in my life (that i know of) [15:17] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@cpe-24-161-98-170.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:17] raelakoira: did you hear that? i ATE horse! [15:18] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:19] ew [15:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) joined ##slackware. [15:19] it's all meat anyway who cares [15:19] meat is meat is meat [15:19] human meat? [15:19] yep :> [15:19] Action: NyteOwl chops off nullboy's arm and bbq's it [15:19] hahaha [15:20] nom nom [15:20] lol [15:20] Action: DralaFi chops off nullboy's privates and sells it [15:20] gonna have thatitem in stock a long time [15:20] as "sausages" [15:21] drmanhattan12121 (n=35354232@189-68-140-28.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:21] as extra long sausages [15:21] thank you very much [15:21] a sausage or a long and thin hotrod? [15:21] in desperate situations people have turned to cannibalism, the Donner party that got caught in the mountains in california, (Donner pass on I-80) and that soccer team that survived an airplane crash in south america was stranded in the mountains for weeks [15:21] it happens sometimes [15:22] drmanhattan12121 (n=35354232@189-68-140-28.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:22] yeah well humans are pathetic fools [15:22] in desperate situations who knows what people are capable of... [15:22] before i would starve to death i would hunt dogs & cats and maybe eat bugs too [15:22] damn, all three local call centres have been advertising for opeings on radioo this afternoon [15:22] heh [15:23] two of the top three too [15:23] but they ate then people because there was nothing to hunt in either situation [15:23] EDS and ICT and a little one. no ads from Stream [15:23] it was snow covered mountain tops [15:23] maybe if it happened during spring or summer [15:23] DralaFi : that's quite an interesting comment. what exactly constitutes cannibalism as 'pathetic foolishness'? [15:23] Action: spook arms the orbital eel cannons [15:23] Pig_Pen, well you would try. But before you could kill a cat, i'd swoop over 1000 milles and chop your genitals in 10000 parts ;P [15:24] DralaFi : ohh, excuse me. i mistook you with somebody who is not a complete retard [15:24] lol [15:24] :) [15:24] besides, cats > humans [15:24] and dogs > humans [15:24] etc [15:24] radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [15:24] and dogs > cats :P [15:24] Action: spook fires a frozen eel at DralaFi [15:25] [Ignore] Added DralaFi!* to your ignore list. too many stupid comments [15:25] and frozen eels > all [15:25] frozen eels? cook them damnit! [15:25] Pig_Pen: yeah you dont need to share who you ignore. [15:25] NyteOwl: no no no, you dont get it [15:26] so the police examine the body. and its been stabbed, and theres dead eel in the wound [15:26] spook, dont worry. Only immature people ignore others (non-spammers) on IRC [15:26] this is amazing [15:26] yeah [15:26] anyone use OpenDNS? [15:26] and it absolutely just baffles them [15:27] i need to actually freeze and eel sometime [15:27] that would be fun [15:28] Does anyone know why Slackware's install program breaks if you try to press shift-3 in the test keyboard screen? [15:28] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:28] test keyboard screen? [15:28] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [15:28] wtf [15:28] you mean keyboard map? [15:28] there's a test kb screen? [15:28] NyteOwl: i used to it seemed like it was a bit slower [15:28] not sure if it's a ncurses or dialog issue [15:28] spook, yes just after you select the keyboard map, you can test the map, and you press 1 if you are happy with it [15:28] why press shift 3 in the first place. [15:29] taquito: I suspected it might be. They advertise it's faster but with all the filtering they do by deefault I couldn't see how it wouldn't be slower [15:29] DralaFi: i dont know. never used anything but the default map... [15:29] spook, to test if the keyboard map is applied. Shift 3 is US dollar sign, but only for US keyboards. [15:29] is the default the US mapping? [15:30] us dollar sign, is that different to $ [15:30] shift-3 is the pound sign on a US keyboard [15:30] because for every keyboard labeled US layout i've ever seen, its shift 4 [15:30] NyteOwl: ya, that might be it. I didn't bother setting up an account to control them [15:30] # [15:30] doh sorry. meant # [15:30] thats called "pound" [15:30] # is next to the Return key [15:30] just above the shift key [15:30] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:30] as in, i will # you to a pulp [15:31] spook, £ = pound, # = hash [15:31] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [15:31] although hash == pound [15:31] on a touch tonephone it is called pound :) [15:31] a bunch of pound signs look like railroad tracks ############### [15:31] wow a regular sherlock... [15:31] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:31] spook, yes correct [15:32] chopp you here? [15:32] it's also a currency symbol [15:32] stef_204 (n=stef@pool-71-98-185-167.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] NyteOwl: I am so. [15:32] DralaFi: interesting bug. Yes it is a bash issue, not a bug [15:32] # her? i 'ardly know her! [15:32] pressing it seems to bork dialog/ncurses so that nothing can be typed unless you press backspace [15:32] The installer does not compensate for the # [15:33] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:33] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:33] alienBOB, curious. how is that a bash issue? i can press # in bash.. [15:33] The phones arrived this week, so far I'm very pelased with them. Sturdy, work well, easy to configure. Just need to see how they do in the long term' [15:33] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:33] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:34] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [15:34] chopp: the web is even acceptably fast on them [15:34] DralaFi: I think it is the way the installer deals with what you return - I assume you pressed RETURN after entering a # ? [15:34] i would like to see cellphones include two-way radio capabilities gmrs without having to go through the cellphone service system [15:34] alienBOB, no. didn't press return [15:34] NyteOwl: awsome, keep me informed on that. I won't be getting one for a couple month's, so you should have them all tested by then. :) [15:35] alienBOB, if I pressed "12£456" then 456 dont show up. I dont think one can even press enter, until one presses backspace [15:35] Pig_Pen: would basically require building two radios into one case. You could do it but you'll significantly increase the size of the device [15:35] DralaFi: so, you type # and that is end of story? That is a dialog bug I guess [15:36] alienBOB, yes that would probably work. [15:36] NyteOwl: I also closed the tab I had up on the phones. Give me the model again, and I'll write it down. [15:36] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:36] Sanyo Pro-700 (ruggedized) and Pro-200 regular [15:36] thank you [15:36] np [15:36] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:37] anyone uses his own mailserver for personal email? [15:37] then what about a cellphone that uses 800Mhz for two-way radio capabilities instead of 462 & 467 Mhz, i bet that would help since the cellphone already uses 800Mhz [15:37] I'll look at getting the ruggedized headset later this month [15:37] acidchild: if your around, happy birthday to you. :) [15:37] Pig_Pen: the 800 MHz analog band has already been reassigned to other serice [15:38] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:38] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] GPRS is also higher power than cellular which has a 3watt power limit [15:38] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [15:38] Catoptromancy` (n=Cato@c-68-62-246-115.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] thats too bad [15:39] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [15:39] i have a two way that can do 35 watts on gmrs frs :D [15:39] gprs is the one before 3g right? [15:39] not really you don't want a micrtowave over next to your head :) [15:39] er microwave oven [15:40] gprs is basically a high powered FRS heh [15:40] good work drunken me [15:40] you locked sober me out of a remote machine by portscanning it [15:40] gmrs frs is UHF (462 & 467 Mhz) [15:41] Action: NyteOwl has a radio that can slide into that frequency range heh [15:41] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:41] i have a dual band Kenwood mobile that does 137 to 174 & 400 to 500 [15:42] 50 watts on vhf & 35 on uhf [15:42] my mobile says tri-band when it starts up [15:42] probably includes 220 [15:42] shrug on the wattage etc [15:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:43] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] 731? [15:45] yup [15:47] DralaFi: I could not replay your problem with the # in the keyboard map selection (but I tested in a -current testing installer) [15:48] alienBOB, i was using 12.2 [15:48] is current planning to go to bash 4? [15:48] thouhg this may be related to the laptop keyboard :( [15:49] i messed up xinit , alot of symbolic links :S [15:50] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:50] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4565762.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "ta leme" [15:51] m4dscientist (n=hostile@79.113.176.140) left irc: "Leaving" [15:52] Catoptromancy` (n=Cato@c-68-62-246-115.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware (":wq"). [15:54] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] lmao!!! "A no smoking section in a restaurant is like having a no peeing section in a swimming pool" @ /. [15:57] good one [15:57] madbear: i think you can get a fresh copy from somewhere in /etc :P [15:57] how do I run a script in debug mode (set -x) [15:58] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:58] edman007_ (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [15:58] dissociative: run "sh -x yourscript.sh" [15:58] madbear: nm misread your comment [15:58] Nick change: edman007_ -> Guest70370 [15:59] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:00] Action: antler spreads explode-on-contact paste on Guest70370 's shoulder and pats him with a long fly swatter [16:00] kaboom [16:00] ow [16:00] Action: Guest70370 is trying to setup openvpn...and thus the network sucks :/ [16:01] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:01] Nick change: Guest70370 -> edman007 [16:01] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:03] alienBOB: I'm trying to see how a propietary printer driver installs properly but the driver itself is contained in a old script [16:03] the script fails when using the 'trap' builtin [16:04] I installed the drivers in my own way and the printer doesnt works as expected [16:05] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl78-145.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [16:06] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: "leaving" [16:07] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:08] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] mfandrade (n=marcelo@189.82.63.190) joined ##slackware. [16:11] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] antler: i fixed it by moving some .xinitrc from another user hehe [16:14] damn fingers stop mess things up [16:18] well i did think you meant .xinitrc, which you can copy from somewhere in /etc (i think) [16:20] hahaha there's an alienjeff in #archlinux :D [16:21] Maybe alienjeff and alienBOB crashed on the same spaceship. [16:21] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [16:22] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-24-161-98-170.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:24] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@cpe-24-161-98-170.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [16:25] "BOB & jeff's terrestrial adventures (in babysitting)" [16:26] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [16:27] a little offtopic , but need help .... anyone knows where windows vista stores wireless passwords ? [16:29] that is a little off topic? [16:29] windows != slackware [16:29] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [16:30] i think the keyword was little [16:30] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:30] DeeeeP: why don't you just get it off the AP? [16:30] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [16:31] or reset it [16:31] as i reboot vista , he then detects the router and try's to connect again [16:31] i just cant get it off [16:32] what? [16:32] lol [16:33] its my dad laptop [16:33] i don't understand what the problem is though [16:33] wifi connection says ( connected / limited ) [16:33] nullboy: you are not alone there :( [16:33] i think he skipped the password insert [16:33] so delete the wifi profile and make a new one [16:34] and now vista wont ask me again for the password , it just trys to connect and tells that is connected but limited [16:34] .... [16:34] yes , where do i do that exactly [16:34] in vista it is all profile driven. [16:34] it's a freaking GUI dude [16:34] click around [16:34] lol [16:35] i dont have the laptop with me , just trying a way of telling my dad over the phone 8) [16:35] http://www.vista4beginners.com/How-to-setup-a-wireless-connection [16:35] next time you could try to google yourself [16:35] ffs, one day it's michael freaking jackson, the next it's vista wifi. Give your head a shake. [16:36] nullboy, dont be so harsh on me [16:36] we all have the same tools at our disposal [16:37] in kde how do I add a program to launch at start of kde? [16:37] I looked into kde's config mgr stuff and didnt see any [16:38] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:38] what script can I use to launch the program on start [16:38] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:38] there is the .kde/Autostart directory [16:38] any .desktop file you put there will run [16:38] ls .kde/Autostart/ [16:38] damn Lord_Khelben beat me [16:38] read another .desktop file for template [16:38] Add a script, program or link in a subdirectory ~/.kde/Autostart npad|home [16:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:39] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:39] janemba kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: No, suck this. ##slackware != ##slackware_derivatives [16:39] heh [16:39] ah i didn't know that about scripts. nice. i thought only .desktop file worked [16:39] thats great, thanks [16:41] this is hilarious http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/01/1227257 [16:41] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.90.81) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:42] nullboy, that's a whippin'. [16:42] hahaha nice :) [16:42] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] he worked on a defence contractor and didn't even know to use simple programs like file sharing ? [16:42] you'd think that they would also block whatever p2p they could right at the boarder [16:43] border* [16:43] a place with the schematics to Marine 1 and no deep packet inspection? wtf is wrong here [16:44] Lord_Khelben: i used to work for a company that wrote software for trading exchnages (think nasdaq) and our chief programmer could barely turn on his PC [16:45] he was an awesome coder tho [16:45] i always find that to be so ironic [16:45] i understand that. i just find it weird. its like being a awesome racing car driver and don't know how to start the car [16:45] the Autostart works; thats great stuff [16:45] i've seen that too; awesome coder but knows nothing about computers. i always wonder how that works out [16:45] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [16:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:47] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl5-108-217.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:47] i guess this helicopter is highly different than "normal" helicopters, right ? [16:47] otherwise its schematics wouldn't be so important [16:47] it has been security bolstered [16:48] they take steps to help secure it from EMP where possible, secured ventilation stuff like that [16:49] theres a million things that can go wrong with a helicopter [16:53] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) left ##slackware. [16:53] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@cpe-24-161-98-170.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "is it not stupidity that scares me, it is the fact that it is the normal level of most poeple these days and we accept it" [16:54] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-24-161-98-170.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:54] Especially an Sea King that's so old they keep a special machine shop just to make spare parts :) [16:54] personally i'm partial to the osprey [16:54] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:54] heh [16:54] also the super stallion [16:58] you guys ever check out http://uncrate.com ? i can't afford 99.9% of the crap up there but it's still neat [17:00] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:00] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:01] nullboy: nice [17:01] lynx [17:01] and yeah, expensive [17:02] good helicopter [17:02] hind as well. not US made :) [17:03] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [17:04] what about the british longbow? [17:04] longbow's not really British [17:04] it's a joint US/British thing [17:04] spook: from helicopters to archery? ;) [17:05] BP{k}: watch me segway into talking about women [17:05] tada! [17:05] my bussy is an MH-53 pilot [17:05] lol. [17:05] buddy* [17:06] Ether_Man (n=polx@h68n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] DralaFi: if you are talk tabout the longbow fire control rader .. that's pure US build .. just the british army ordered it as well ;) [17:06] ah [17:07] Action: Razec hi all [17:07] briareus, was it not a MH-53 that featured in that funny video where the helicopter chopped off the refueling rod with its own rotor blades? [17:07] ajrisi (n=user@c-24-91-11-151.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [17:08] I believe so, I haven't seen that movie in ages. The one where it vertically oscillates? [17:08] Besides that, "Longbow" is not a seperate helicopter .. just an upgraded apache (mostly "D" versions with new firecontrol radar and newer type hellfires. [17:08] yeah longbow is a version [17:09] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/MH-53_Pave_Low_US_Military.jpg [17:09] briareus, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcVb7reouzE [17:10] ooopsie. [17:10] :) [17:10] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl21-53.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:11] I used to watch the MH-53s flying around following a C-130 practicing refueling for hours [17:11] hmmm my dad should be up by now [17:11] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-167-223.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:13] spook/DralaFi: hmm as for "The British Longbow" seems there is some thruth is that: "The Westland WAH-64 Apache is a licence-built version of the Boeing AH-64D Apache Longbow attack helicopter for the British Army." [17:14] why do you think i specified british [17:15] it also kinda differentiates it from the wooden kind of longbow [17:16] not per se. the technical term of that would be an english longbow but since it was used by both the english and the welsh, the term british could easily be applied. [17:17] you know whats ironic, pilgrims moved to america [17:17] and now americans hate muslims [17:19] umm [17:19] i don't hate muslims [17:19] walk down the street asking people and see what happens [17:20] i walk down american streets everyday [17:20] do you? [17:20] no but i watch people do it on tv [17:20] and tv never lies [17:20] on tv [17:20] ... [17:20] lol [17:20] how do i choose an audio device to use in the console? [17:21] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:21] ummmmm [17:21] you just run it [17:21] you're talking commandline? [17:23] yeah [17:23] you just run whichever [17:23] like mpg321 foo.mp3 [17:23] or whatever [17:23] oh, sorry [17:23] right. i want to choose an audio device to use [17:24] thought you meant audio PROGRAM [17:24] does the command 'chroot /path' changes the root directory for anything? or just for the processes spawned by the current shell? [17:24] it changes to root directory of the shell [17:24] no, i want to play through my usb headset instead of my laptop speakers [17:24] i know alsa sees it because aplay -l shows it [17:24] dionysian, check the man page for the application [17:24] but i'm not familiar enough with the commands [17:24] most apps you specify which to use [17:24] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) joined ##slackware. [17:25] dive: for the audio application? mpg321 -o alsa -a 0:1 foo.mp3 is throwing up an error and quitting [17:25] nullboy: well then it's safe to use it for trying the installation of printer driver? [17:26] dionysian: pastebin the error? [17:26] sorry, that should be 1:0 [17:26] and how can I escape from it If I am done with it or there's an error? [17:26] ok hold on, i'll pastebin it [17:28] for an interactive shell you just type exit [17:29] http://pastebin.com/m64072c8e [17:29] I tried but it says cannot execute /bin/sh, but I copied /bin/sh /bin/bash to the chroot directory [17:29] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:30] dissociative: how are you running chroot? [17:30] dionysian, I'm also getting error with that command - maybe a bug? [17:31] I do just 'su' then #chroot /dir [17:31] maybe it's the wrong command [17:33] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[17:41] dive: that doesn't work [17:43] DeeeeP (i=0@bl8-109-181.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:43] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-167-223.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:43] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.48.213) left irc: Connection timed out [17:44] alienBOB: the only difference when i do -a 1:0, is it says Can't open libao driver with device 1 (is device in use?) [17:45] instead of device 0 [17:45] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Success [17:45] with mpg123 you specify like mpg123 -a hw:0,0 myfile.mp3 [17:45] but that give sme an error [17:46] http://www.mpg123.de/faq.shtml [17:47] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) left irc: [17:48] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:48] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [17:50] BP{k}, ya built by Westlands [17:53] can cp copy links with its target files? [17:54] dissociative, -L, --dereference [17:55] but i think that wont make a link and the file, rather will copy 2 files [17:55] --preserve[=ATTR_LIST] perhaps [17:55] i thought deref. would copy the target instead of the link [17:56] maybe one can use tar? [17:57] -L copies the target with the link name [17:59] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] dionysian: I saw the same issue with a USB headset just now. But audacious picked up the USB headset right away. It started playing sound through the headset only after I stopped audacious and restarted it.... [18:00] any other cli mp3 players? [18:01] In audacious it shows as "hw:2,0" here [18:01] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:02] nullboy: It works now [18:02] cool [18:04] I copied the /bin/sh library dependences to the chroot target dir with 'cp -a -L --parents ) [18:05] but the library links arent there still [18:06] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) left irc: "Leaving." [18:07] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.252) joined ##slackware. [18:07] alienBOB: i can get sound through the usb headset with a command like lame --decode foo.mp3 - | aplay --device=hw:1,0 [18:07] jiffypop (i=jiffypop@d118-75-143-208.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [18:07] alienBOB: it plays slowly, but i suspect that is because lame is decoding it slowly [18:07] dionysian: it looks like mpg321 is not 100% alsa proof [18:08] not sure what i should use for a console audio player [18:11] dionysian: ncmpcpp, im using it right now [18:11] uses playlists and everything [18:11] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.42) joined ##slackware. [18:11] ncmpcpp is its own player? I use orpheus for its playlists and whatnot, but it can call mpg321 or whatever other player you config it to [18:12] no its a frontend for mpd [18:12] nothing that ships with slack? [18:12] but ncmpcpp it the app that manages playlists albums etc. [18:13] mpcdcd or something is good [18:13] lets you change the song in playlist over network [18:13] using ncurses [18:14] dionysian: if you have vlc then "cvlc --alsa-audio-device hw:1,0 /path/to/file.mp3" will work on the commandline [18:14] I sometimes use mplayer itself, but its sort of big for that [18:15] dionysian: the cli players that ship with slack arent all that good IMO [18:15] I *neveR* use gmplayer, I always run it from commandline [18:15] for dvd or movies and sometimes but not often for music [18:15] hiya, spook...how the hell are ya? [18:16] google isn't finding ncmpcpp - anyone got a link? [18:16] dive: i think it might be up on sourceforge too [18:17] dive: unkart.ovh.org/ncmpcpp [18:17] thanks [18:18] np [18:18] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.48.213) joined ##slackware. [18:18] theres also MOC and cmus and some others [18:18] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:18] ncmpcpp looks promising [18:19] ive been using it for a while now and i havent had any problems with it [18:20] i recommend setting up slack to boot with mpd [18:21] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:21] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "reboor   [www.t7ds.com.br]" [18:21] mpd? [18:22] music play deamon [18:22] ? [18:22] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:22] its the backend for ncmpcpp [18:22] (its wut actually plays the music) [18:22] ah that [18:22] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [18:23] ah, so it is mpd [18:23] i have ncmpd [18:23] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-69-105-1-163.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] I like orpheus but I just let it use its defaults of mpg321 and ogg123 [18:24] audacious for me [18:24] I like orpheus because it wasn't hard to cust-o-mize the ncurses colors, but that's probably true of ncmpcpp [18:24] though i'd like to have a console control program for it [18:24] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] does anyone here use conky? because i was wondering why it has audacious as a dependency [18:24] a daemon :/ [18:25] actaully, what I used for a couple of years was xmms2, I'd use that to serve music across my network, but now that I'm down to one laptop, I don't need such a daemonized thing [18:25] taquito: conky needs audacious? [18:25] I have conky, didn't recall that dep [18:25] same here [18:25] xmms2 was always a bit clunky for my tastes. and no graphical UI [18:25] apparently. thats what it said when i tried compiling originallyh [18:25] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [18:25] am i the only one left in the world that listens to an AM/FM radio? [18:25] mpd seems a bit extreme just to play the odd mp3 [18:26] Pig_Pen: I listen to AM/FM and shortwave almost daily [18:26] Pig_Pen: lastfm count? [18:26] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@74-47-129-229.dr02.mdtw.ny.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:27] i have a shortwave receiver too :D i have a Drake SW8 with an inverted V about 33 feet on each side [18:27] mmm computer controlled radio Rx would be fun [18:27] ah, more than me. when I lived in the mountains I had a good sloper setup, but now I just have a grundig yacht boy, (im in an apartment) [18:27] i like to listen to pirates, ham sometimes [18:28] grundig makes some decent radios, their old stuff was excellent [18:28] I love shortwave [18:28] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [18:28] hearing obscure cultural stuff from around the world that you don't get on the net [18:28] my dad's a HAM [18:28] briareus, like number stations? [18:29] robert_minster (n=chatzill@c-71-236-214-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:29] hehe [18:29] number stations are spooky [18:29] yeah [18:29] robert_minster (n=chatzill@c-71-236-214-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [18:30] and sometimes I'd hear cryptic statements from some signals "merriwether takes a long trip. merriwether takes a long trip. merriwether takes a long trip. schoolbus. schoolbus. schoolbus. merriwether takes a long trip..." [18:30] Action: briareus shivers [18:30] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-138.bard.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:30] WTF [18:30] some shit going down somewhere [18:31] briareus, that's very odd [18:31] yeah, over and over [18:31] that must be ten years ago I heard that [18:32] Mushindo (i=5022f191@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9fd4da3fc18b7028) joined ##slackware. [18:32] esto me traduce [18:32] I dont have a Rx [18:32] went on for like an hour, I was looking around the dial, when I came back to it for the tenth time it was gone. [18:32] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [18:32] so i cant listen to tthat kind of thing [18:32] http://imagebin.org/39730 briareus heres my radio desk [18:33] hola soy novato con slackware [18:33] Pig_Pen, nice :) [18:33] alguien me entiende? [18:33] Pig_Pen, HAM? CB? [18:34] gajim & [18:34] sorry :P [18:34] fucking faulty nics [18:34] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:34] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:34] hi [18:34] someone understands me? [18:34] Mushindo: English channel here, but I understand you [18:35] (has Pig_Pen still got me on ignore? ;) ) [18:35] Pig_Pen: I hope to have such a desk [18:35] mannynix: sorry, I'm trying a translator work? [18:35] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-7-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4565762.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:36] Mushindo: translation software? [18:36] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [18:36] Pig_Pen: is there good or useable radio management software open source stuff? [18:37] briareus: i bought that Drake about 1997 back when i was making more money than i make now, i hope it keeps working because i doubt i could afford to replace it today, besides R.L. Drake quit making shortwave receivers and now just makes cable TV stuff [18:37] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:37] hamlib [18:37] ah, nice [18:37] thanks [18:37] http://freshmeat.net/projects/hamlib/ [18:37] Pig_Pen: jesus those 6x9s could sure use a box for better sound :P [18:38] mannynix am on the website that can translate mibbit while I write, and at least what you write it perfectly [18:38] they do ok, i dont turn the volume up very loud anyway, besides i am a cheapskate i bought some 1x4s at the local hardware store to build the boxes [18:38] Nick change: DralaFi -> DralaFi_ [18:38] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-69-105-1-163.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [18:39] i take it you're a HAM, Pig_Pen ? [18:39] Pig_Pen: a suitable enclosure makes a world of difference :P [18:40] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net expired. [18:40] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:40] i did cut some cardboard to close the back on the boxes, besides i think speaker boxes need to breathe [18:40] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Pig_Pen: but there's a hacker air to your setup there. :) they do, but i think it's applicable more to low band frequency speakers [18:42] see those yellow speakers? those kick plenty of bass (or base - spelling?) [18:42] bass [18:42] Pig_Pen: those 6"s? [18:42] ah Ha! i was right the first time, thanks [18:43] yeah [18:43] what's driving them? there's an amp somewhere? [18:44] Action: antler is interested in homemade rigs :D [18:44] above everything else, (not pictured) is a 100 watt receiver amp [18:46] http://imagebin.org/39731 [18:46] Action: antler really likes the computer in the movie pi [18:46] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [18:47] Ten-Tec makes a computer controlled radio (SDR) the 320 [18:47] there are other brands that are better (more expensive too) [18:47] well, folks...i've almost gotten to the point of actually connecting with my sierra ac860. [18:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:48] that setup looks as if you're able to scan police frequencies :P (don't respond) [18:48] antler, what makes you say that? [18:48] SDRs are nice and lots of cool features, but the disadvantage is when the PC goes down you have no radio [18:48] i realize that's neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things and that's cool but i can almost taste it [18:48] DralaFi_: just the ghetto setup, i guess [18:48] i think :-/ [18:49] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] I can't see a logbook [18:49] listening to police radio transmissions is not illegal here where i live [18:49] or a bunch of QSL cards [18:49] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.138.134.51) joined ##slackware. [18:50] police radio is mostly boring, traffic tickets mostly, i got to where i mostly ignore it unless they sound really excited or agitated about something [18:50] Pig_Pen: you ever catch uncle jesse calling bo peep, or boss hog yelling at rosco? [18:50] hogg? [18:50] lol, no [18:51] i like to listen to either pirates on 6825Khz or hams on 75/80 meters [18:51] what kind of pirates? [18:51] the arrr kind? [18:51] pirate music most likely [18:51] oh hahaha [18:52] they play a mix of music & humor and sometimes political rants [18:52] they blast music loudly over other people that are talking [18:53] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:53] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:54] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:54] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) left ##slackware. [18:54] on 14.300 is the maritime mobile net that help people on boats & ships at sea, relay messages to loved ones at home and sometimes coordinate rescure to boats & ships in distress [18:55] rescue [18:55] everything from a disabled boat due to engine failure to a sinking ship where lives are in danger [18:55] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:56] Pig_Pen: what's the most remote signal you've caught? [18:57] australia i know of for sure, i talked to people in australia on that RCI, but just a few times i heard what sounded like russian or something similar (sounded like russian) [18:58] where do you live, Pig_Pen ? [18:58] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:58] Nick change: tpollard_ -> tpollard [18:58] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:59] (eg. New Zealand to Australia is not far... so...) [18:59] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) left ##slackware. [18:59] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [18:59] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:01] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [19:04] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:05] Pig_Pen: no radio sex between truck drivers and other people? :D [19:05] lol, no, i am an old married man [19:05] Andry_Sleeps (n=na@host171-246-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "rebooting the fuckin PC -=SysReset 2.53=-" [19:06] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] i would've thought it the best time to enjoy such leisure activities :P [19:07] mfandrade (n=marcelo@189.82.63.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:08] ncmpc is pretty cool [19:08] my wife takes care of all that, she gives me more than i can handle sometimes :D [19:08] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] lol [19:09] lucky ;-D [19:09] hahah [19:09] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-138.bard.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:09] Pig_Pen: i'm half-assed folling your conversation but you say you do the ham radia thang? [19:10] following even [19:10] radio even [19:10] my god i can't type [19:10] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:10] no ham license, just CB radio and listen mostly [19:11] bummer, it was the license i was gonna ask about, lol [19:11] lol [19:11] i drive a truck but won't have a cb radio anywhere near it [19:11] a ham license is not difficult to get, i could get one if i wanted it [19:11] i've been entertaininng the thought [19:11] i used to drive truck coast to coast, most annoying job ever! [19:12] lol how come [19:12] i always thought its not that annoying [19:12] they say you're not allowed to use profanity on ham radio but i'm sure it happens. just figured it wold be toned down a tad. [19:12] more boring [19:12] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] not that i'm not capable of profanity but i don't need the stupidity along with it [19:13] stupid people in cars, dispatchers demanding driving scheduales that are dangerous, annoying people where you pickup loads and deliver too [19:13] ignernt people in the world [19:13] worse than me even :-/ [19:13] Evening ( or afternoon or morning),ladies and gentlemen [19:13] DralaFi_ (n=dralafi@host86-170-201-105.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:13] or night ;P [19:14] Pig_Pen: what about pay ? was it worth it [19:14] when people get stupid on the CB i just turn the channel or turn the volume down, just ignore them and they go away, (trolls like an audience) [19:14] yea, Pig_pen knows whereof he speaks [19:14] that too,lw0x15 [19:14] MLanden: i think a generic term that captures all that (and more) is "hi" :P [19:15] pay was decent, but the annoyances will eventually make you look for different job [19:15] were you a freight hauler, Pig? [19:15] old habit,antler [19:15] just bustin' your chopps [19:16] gash (n=gash@pool-71-163-117-220.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] speaking about chopps, where's pork chopp ? :P [19:17] why you little.. [19:17] hahaha [19:17] yeah, i drove a Freightliner with a 475 cat engine and an 18 speed transmission, that truck would drive 125 MPh but i was scarred to go faster than 85, i pulled a reefer (refrigerated) meat going from east to west then i would pick up either produce (vegetables) or wine from california and haul it back east, [19:17] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:18] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:18] Pig_Pen: How many years were you a trucker? [19:19] 4 years, i eventually quit and got a job driving a cement mixer truck around town [19:19] I imagine that would have been grueling [19:20] it is, and the better you get at driving the pay stays the same so it eventually starts feeling like a dead end job [19:21] Mushindo (i=5022f191@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9fd4da3fc18b7028) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [19:21] the trucking industry knows they can replace you with another driver so there is no incentive to give raises and bonuses [19:21] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:23] same for the computer industry [19:23] what is JACK? [19:23] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [19:23] an old sound server [19:24] ah [19:26] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [19:28] mfandrade (n=marcelo@189.82.57.20) joined ##slackware. [19:31] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [19:33] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:35] If I setup my own mail server for receiving and sending personal email, it is needed to use smtpauth? [19:35] the main server of my isp doesnt seem to accept mail for relaying by default [19:36] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:36] taquito, I'm getting a libfaad.so.0 not found when I try start mpd - which version faad do you have? [19:36] dive: gimme a sec... [19:36] Nick change: gash -> gash|away [19:36] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:36] gash|away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [19:37] ryht|NiMD (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [19:37] i have the sbo faad2 [19:37] I'm thinking it probably needs faad1 but I can't find source [19:38] dive: if you compiled mpd yourself, you will not get the error of missing faad [19:38] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.138.134.51) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:38] hmm [19:38] i used sbopkg [19:38] hmmm the only libfaad i can find on my system comes from /usr/lib/vlc/codec/libfaad_plugin [19:39] dunno if thats going to help u [19:39] did you install faad, compile mpd, and then remove faad ? [19:39] or anyone here knows how to setup SMTPauth [19:39] noope [19:39] gash (n=gash@pool-71-163-117-220.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] or compile on another PC that has faad ? [19:39] is there a way to configure alsa to use a certain device as its default when it is available? [19:39] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [19:39] I will try again [19:40] ...in sendmail [19:40] dissociative: slackwiki.org has a good tut on setting up mutt w/ sendmail [19:42] nope same error [19:43] did you actually upgrade to you rnewest package? [19:43] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Connection timed out [19:43] i promise that mpd does not need faad support; if it's complaining about libfaad, it means you compiled it against faad, and then took it away [19:44] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:44] anyway the mail server of my isp is crap.. its a M$ server and it doesnt has any kind of secure protocols or authentication mechanism [19:45] thrice`, I just installed faad and mpd from sbo [19:45] I also tried building it manually with no configure options and it gives same error [19:46] configure gives an error ? [19:47] no configure and make are fine [19:47] just when I run src/mpd [19:47] what does "ls /var/log/packages/mpd*" say ? [19:47] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:48] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [19:48] /var/log/packages/mpd-0.14.2-i486-1_SBo [19:49] and can you pastebin "ldd $( which mpd )" ? [19:49] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [19:50] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) joined ##slackware. [19:51] http://pastebin.ca/1350594 [19:52] ok, so you recompiled mpd, but did not reinstall it [19:52] yeah I tried doing it manually and just running from the build src dir [19:52] same error [19:53] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:53] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [19:53] don't see any configure options to enable/disable faad [19:53] mpd only supports what you have installed [19:53] if you DON'T have faad installed, it will not include faad support [19:54] but I have faad2 installed [19:54] you have compiled mpd against faad, and then removed faad [19:54] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.138.134.51) joined ##slackware. [19:54] I only installed it in the last 30 mins or so - I haven't removed anything [19:55] ok [19:56] wget http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/12.2/audio/mpd.tar.gz; tar xvf mpd.tar.gz; cd mpd/; source *.info && wget $DOWNLOAD; sh mpd.SlackBuild [19:56] when it's done, upgradepkg --reinstall /tmp/mpd-0.14.2-i488-1_SBo.tgz [19:57] 486* [19:58] same error [19:58] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4565762.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "ta leme" [19:59] it could be ffmpeg causing the problem [19:59] it is [19:59] ffmpeg is compiled against faad [19:59] brb [19:59] :( [20:01] i'm making some progress, for anyone that is following along :D [20:02] progress is good [20:03] as root, i ran alsaconf, then alsactl store and alsactl names [20:03] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-138.bard.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:04] then i made an ~/.asoundrc with pcm.!default hw:1 [20:04] hw:1 being the identifier that alsactl gave my USB headset [20:05] well I did have faad on here at some point then [20:05] now ffmpeg complains [20:05] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:05] now, when i run mpg321 -o alsa foo.mp3 with the usb headset plugged in, it plays through that [20:05] and without it plugged in, it plays through the speakers [20:06] dive: recompile ffmpeg against faad again [20:06] yeah it's doing [20:06] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:06] but I'm compiling without faad [20:06] actually -o is not needed [20:06] or at least with faad2 [20:06] but it seems like it's playing at half speed [20:07] dionysian, maybe for you but it doesn't owkr for me [20:07] which is really weird, isn't it? [20:09] why would the audio be playing so slowly through the usb headset? it plays at normal speed through the speakers [20:10] Could be how the sound is being processed [20:10] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:11] it seems to me that a USB headset would have to take audio data in digital format and convert to analog for the headset's speakers... that conversion should have some set-able attributes [20:16] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:19] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-222.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: "Changing server" [20:25] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) left irc: "Leaving" [20:27] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [20:27] razel (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:35] Reached (n=jeremiah@24.238.92.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:36] Hello. [20:36] Hi all. [20:36] I come for some help. Ron1n sent me here to ask around. [20:36] I just started using vbox on Slack. Started working out of the box. Awsome... [20:37] awesome... [20:37] ganeshix: vbox is a pretty good :) [20:37] Reached: If you have questions, just ask them. No need to ask to ask. :) [20:38] Alright thanks. I really don't even know where to begin. I have a really old laptop and I just got the most recent version of slack and ron1n gave me an iso that it apparently needs to be online to work [20:39] However I keep getting to this "No setup signature found" [20:39] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [20:39] Reached: then he didn't give you slackware. Go bitch at him. [20:39] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.138.134.51) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:40] No I put it in and it says, "ISOLINUX 3.52 2007-09-25 Copyright (C) 1994-2007 H. Peter Anvin" [20:40] BP{k}, just a simple question. My new virtual windows box is connected to the internet. I guess I'll have to install AV, anti-trojan software, etc, the whole 9 yards, since it would be as vulnerable as any windows box... am I correct? [20:40] Slackware 12.2 [20:40] ganeshix: correct [20:40] yeah it's got to be a sample rate issue, i think [20:40] you don't need the internet to install with that [20:40] Oh okay. [20:40] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [20:40] i'm going install libsamplerate and recompile mocp against it [20:40] see how that turns out [20:41] Reached: I'm not familiar with a "No setup signature" error message at all, but otherwise, it should be fine. [20:41] ganeshix: aye. Although, you could leave it unprotected and just see what happends; ) [20:41] Reached: http://slackbook.org will be your friend. [20:41] rworkman: Thanks. [20:41] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:41] rworkman and BP{k} , I see. Well, it'll be some other day, when I have the time and patience. For now, I'll just isolate the windows box from the outside world. [20:41] That's right - skin on skin or it don't go in. [20:42] Oh, wait, different context with unprotected. Nevermind. ;-) [20:42] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left ##slackware. [20:42] hahaha :)) [20:42] :) [20:42] ken` (n=user@38.119.107.114) joined ##slackware. [20:43] dionysian: I had the same problem when wanting to use my usb headset, and solved it like so: http://pastebin.ca/1350624 [20:43] Mellar_ (n=brebbesv@ti400720a080-3037.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [20:43] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [20:44] rworkman, "skin on skin"? "unprotected"? you're not talking about condoms are you? :P [20:44] Its an incredibly old laptop. 133MHZ processor lol. What kernel should I use? [20:44] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:44] the buy-a-new-laptop one :) [20:45] Yeah yeah [20:45] Im getting an Asus N80 in a month or so [20:45] Reached: 133Mhz .. damm you're brave ;) [20:45] or insane [20:45] This is purely a learning experience and I recently broke my somewhat good computer. [20:45] I have my good computer running vista. Plase dont ban me ;) [20:45] although it seems those two character traits often go together ;) [20:45] shun! shun! [20:46] I don't think 12.2 will run on it [20:46] heh [20:46] Oh damn. Its working lol [20:46] you would be better off getting a used thinkpad off of craigslist [20:46] nightf0x09 (n=nightf0x@vs13.vds03.best-hosting.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:47] It would be better to use it as a weapon in which I use to bash the store clerk and steal anything in the store. My flashdrive has more computing power than this. [20:47] rworkman: don't mean to bother ya but i think i'm almost there with my ac860. i've got some logs i can paste if you've got a chance to check them out [20:48] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:48] Reached: hmm your laptop is a Toshiba Tecra? ;) [20:48] Compaq Presario 1240 [20:49] Id say its a good 15 lbs :) [20:49] Nick change: kethry_ -> kethry [20:49] i seem to get all the way to the primary and secondary dns adresses and then the script hangs [20:49] from what i can gather over at at google i guess the nest step is ip-up [20:49] Im at the Slackware Linux setup and my cfdisk wont work but there is a windows 98 partition on it. [20:50] i've got an ip-up.local but no ip-up but i suppose it's close enough for govt. work [20:50] cfdisk does not resize partitions, only create and destroy partitions [20:50] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] nachox: of course not. :) [20:50] I know. I want to remove the 98 [20:51] rworkman, i had to ask :P [20:51] highlight it and delete it [20:51] jiffypop: sure, paste them somewhere [20:51] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:51] schweet. it'll take me a minute or two cause i'm on a friend's box but i'll get with ya directly :-/ [20:52] k [20:52] Alright. How do I go about formating the harddrive? [20:53] I feel like I am asking such noobie questions :( [20:53] installation? [20:54] I tried to used cfdisk but it isnt detecting my harddrive :( [20:54] fdisk -l [20:54] i second fluxnuk's suggestion [20:55] fdisk has always worked for me [20:55] what does it say your drive is? /dev/xxx [20:56] Nothing shows up. It just goes to the next line and has a cursor following the root@slackware:/# [20:56] lemme go smoke a cigarette and i'll be right on that [20:56] lol [20:57] thats an odd one [20:57] Yeah [20:57] Thats my life. [20:57] Ask Ron1n [20:59] Its unable to open /dev/hda if that helps at all. [20:59] is that your cdrom, maybe? [20:59] Im running slack 12.2 from cd, but I have slack 9.2 on the HDD now. [21:00] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:00] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:00] well, fdisk -l should show all storage devices [21:00] except cdrom occasionally [21:00] So its possible that I muffed up my harddrive and my laptop is running purely on win? [21:01] Mellar (n=brebbesv@ti400720a080-3037.bb.online.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:02] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [21:05] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:05] could open it up, make sure everything is plugged in [21:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:07] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:10] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-95-6-128.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] jiraia (n=jiraia@201-24-176-96.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] Alright Ill open it up I guess :D [21:12] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [21:13] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-95-6-128.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:13] what package supplies aplay? [21:13] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) got netsplit. [21:13] AbortRet1yFail (n=arf@scourge.esoterica.us) got netsplit. [21:13] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) got netsplit. 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[21:14] I doubt it [21:15] dionysian: It's in ap [21:16] thanks [21:16] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.138.134.51) joined ##slackware. [21:16] i'm going to rebuild it [21:16] Might also want to note http://packages.slackware.it [21:19] slackware dont reconize more than 3 gb ram ? [21:20] i00nsu: any x86 distro won't recongize more then 4 gbs of ram [21:21] hmm, ok thankz [21:21] i00nsu: how much you have? [21:21] if you want more then 4 gig of ram or 4 gigs use slamd64 [21:21] 4, but slack only see 3 [21:21] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:21] by default. i run 12.1 with 8 gigs [21:21] unless you want to use PAE which is just an ugly mess [21:22] hopefully this works :D [21:22] just flip a switch in your kernel config, recompile,and it reads all 8 [21:22] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-155-49.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] can i convert this x86 to x64? [21:23] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [21:23] i'll not touch kernel config.. need more information to feel free to make any changes [21:24] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.179) joined ##slackware. [21:24] hi, how can i convert html to pdf? [21:25] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] I'm sure it'd be possible in OOo, but that's probably more complex a solution than you'd be looking for... [21:27] And good (insert temporal offset), everyone. [21:27] Alright thanks for the previous help. [21:27] Bai [21:27] Reached (n=jeremiah@24.238.92.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: [21:28] what package supplies mpg321? [21:28] wait [21:29] i'm dumb [21:30] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [21:30] MrHales: hi, i printed html to pdf format file using firefox, but how can i set the file's path off on top of pdf? [21:30] That header may be part of your print settings [21:31] In a Socratean way, allow me to state, with authority, that I know nothing. [21:31] i can't find the relative settings.. [21:31] I may, however, make educated guesses. [21:32] I found a php prog at sourceforge that does conversions. [21:32] http://sourceforge.net/projects/html2fpdf if that helps [21:32] MrHales: yes, i'v just downloaded it [21:33] I found a firefox plugin called 'printpdf'. hoh [21:33] Hey, there you go. Let us know how it works, in case anyone needs such in a future, eh? [21:34] no problem. haha [21:34] most just use cups-pdf [21:36] hashed_ (n=hashed_@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] Well, one learns something new every day. I, generally, only export to pdf if I'm sending a file to the non-enlightened (friends and family who've yet to see the beauty of free software) for them to review. [21:36] oops, printing to pdf has options, which including header and footer settings, all done. [21:37] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [21:37] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:37] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:42] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [21:44] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:44] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.235) joined ##slackware. [21:45] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] tea4me_ (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-14-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] hello, my arp address is wrong, how can i change it [21:51] i am in local net [21:52] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-7-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:53] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.102.8) left irc: "Leaving" [21:53] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:58] ? [21:58] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:58] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:58] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [21:58] hey everyone, I have an awesome video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQxJSdTbuf0 comment please [21:58] Nick change: pirving_ -> pirving [21:59] screw you [21:59] hmmm zxh how do you know your arp address is wrong though (yes I know I m being a devil advocate) [21:59] why screw me [21:59] that's some get more hits game [21:59] and you're probably part of it [21:59] no, I'm not I swear [21:59] check it out [22:01] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [22:02] i use arp -a to show it, and found it's wrong, because I know my route's mac address, but now it's wrong, [22:03] and the speed is very slow [22:03] zxh: the next q is "am I on a private network that's masqueraded (or dnatted) behind a router?" [22:04] yes [22:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left irc: "Leaving." [22:05] what do you mean by the speed is low? is this a wifi AP + router? [22:05] are you connected via wifi? [22:06] I think so, it dynamicly give me a address [22:06] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [22:06] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-222.dial.telus.net) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [22:06] don't use wifi, [22:07] what is the actual problem? [22:07] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@port.23.telnetd.org) joined ##slackware. [22:08] tea4me__ (n=tea4me@pool-98-118-71-66.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] tea4me_ (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-14-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:08] because my route's mac address is wrong, it make me very slow to use the net, i want to change my route's mac , but I don't know how can I do it [22:08] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.138.134.51) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:08] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "quit" [22:09] if that is your only router you can't [22:10] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-48.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] i suppose this is a lesson learned [22:11] i had an old install, and i wanted to keep mplayer, which i build from a slackbuild [22:11] i don't think it had any dependencies [22:12] but i had some other stuff installed that it checked for and compiled against [22:12] so, i can't just drop the package in [22:12] i've got to go back and build all that stuff again [22:12] or rebuild mplayer. [22:12] i want to change my route's mac address to the right one, can't I [22:13] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.138.134.51) joined ##slackware. [22:13] hackedhead: makes more sense to me to rebuild everything else [22:13] dionysian: fair enough [22:13] zxh: arp is automatic and will resolv the ip to mac address as soon as the system gets an ip from dhcp [22:13] mplayer wouldn't be compiled against it if there was no use for it [22:14] i'll have a better mplayer [22:14] :) [22:14] the mac addy of your router is making your net connection slow down? [22:14] zxh: it doesn't get it wrong unless there is a deeper problem on the network.... [22:14] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:14] panzer: he is saying that he has the wrong mac in arp indicating that he is connect to the wrong router but if dhcp gave him his IP there must be deeper issues [22:15] or he's not telling us everything [22:15] I got you nullboy [22:15] could be that his and the hoods wifi is setup for the same network scheme [22:15] he's not on wifi though [22:15] and both dhcp servers are giving out same style IP's [22:16] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left irc: "Leaving." [22:16] oh [22:16] Action: panzer smacks head [22:16] yes, there is deep problem, maybe some computer get virus, but I am not the administrator, I just want to change my computer, so I can use it, [22:17] wifi router? my linksys routers have three different mac addy. one for wan one for lan and one for wifi [22:17] now wifi [22:18] does iwconfig seriously not support network passwords? [22:18] fluxnuk3r: iwconfig supports WEP [22:18] each router has two different MAC addresses some have three due to wifi [22:18] sorry, i am not use wifi, [22:19] zxh: yes you only have to say it once [22:19] nullboy: so if a wep network has the password "alpha" i can use iwconfig? [22:19] s:ALPAH [22:19] ALPHA [22:19] sweet [22:19] thanks [22:20] iwconfig wlan0 key s:myleetpass [22:20] iwconfig will set the wep keys on your card if you want to use wep - since it takes about 16 seconds to break wep, you may want to use wpa_supplicant/hostapd and use wpa2 [22:20] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [22:21] zxh: if you really think that manually messing with your arp table is the solution just read the arp man page [22:21] Sometimes being too broke to afford a new graphics adapter is nice. Because if I bought a new one, I would, of course, be honor bound to purchase one for which free and open source drivers are available but nvidia-settings just works so well... [22:22] Got a new display, no more flaming CRT worries. [22:22] i use arp -d to delete the wrong one, but it didn't work, I can't delete it [22:23] matt5_ (n=river@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:23] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] ps aux | grep vim | awk '{print $2}' will return PID's of all instances of vim running - any idea how I feed those into kill command? '| kill' doesn't work [22:24] pkill vim [22:24] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-155-49.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [22:24] pgrep is a better way to get the process id, too [22:25] perhaps you could kill `ps aux | grep vim | awk '{print $2}'` ? [22:25] Would that work? [22:25] kill $( pgrep vim ) will work too [22:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [22:25] or, just pkill vim :) [22:25] ^^ [22:26] yep, but I was just curious how I could work out the kill in the command I suggested [22:26] awk '/grep me/ {print blah}' [22:26] And this is why choosy people choose GNU/Linux: Options. [22:26] Not only is there more than one way to accomplish any goal, there's probably hundreds. [22:26] :-D [22:27] Action: nullboy looks arouind [22:27] xargs kill [22:28] for i in $(ps aux | grep vim | awk '{print $2}'); kill $i; done [22:29] I won one for the good guys, recently. My brother is going to be switching to OOo. That one, small victory may yet prove to be the turning point in the war. I've been trying to get him to explore free software solutions for years now. At last it came down to the only argument that makes sense to him: money. [22:29] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:29] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:30] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.42) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:30] If ya'll were going to convince your technophobe friends/family/whatever to try a distro, what would it be? What I mean is, for a Windoze person, what is the "friendliest" introduction to freedom? [22:30] Action: panzer grins at nullboy when he looks my way [22:30] Ubuntu is popular, but "popular" isn't always best. [22:30] don't take the flamebait [22:30] lol [22:31] MrHales: seriously... are you in drugs? [22:31] MrHales is ok, let him speak.... :) [22:31] In drugs? Of course not, have you seen how small those capsules are? [22:31] MrHales: you just made a bomb and lit the fuse yourself [22:32] Prolly. But seriously, I'm talking "everything just works", "its so user-friendly", "its just like (gag) Windoze" [22:32] it's windows [22:32] Action: fluxnuk3r grumbles as nullboy beats him to it [22:32] If I was going to strap my family to a chair and force them to try just one live distro in the hopes they wake up, just a little, what is the friendliest? [22:32] umm Ubuntu you pretty much answered yourself but then again most people don't care what they use as long as they can run their program like .exe pokerstars and such [22:33] and if someone who had no background in linux wanted to try out linux i would give them debian or ubuntu [22:33] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] and what is the point of this? [22:33] I know about || this much about debian. [22:33] What's the short version? [22:33] ask them [22:33] that's the short version [22:33] ubuntu = perverted debian [22:33] Action: panzer points MrHales to ##debian [22:34] I finally have internet so I can start downloading live cd iso's [22:34] and...? [22:34] And I need the best ammunition possible. [22:34] MrHales: where the heck are u from!? [22:34] Podunk. [22:34] lol [22:34] ok guys, here's another fun solution: ps aux | grep vim | awk '{print "kill "$2}' | sh [22:34] MrHales: same here. pop=350 [22:35] We have just under 1000, but nobody goes the last mile to this place [22:35] killall vim [22:35] hey, MrHales lives by me, whooda thunk it? [22:36] ha [22:36] where is that "Podunk"? [22:36] alisonken1home: yep, that was another possible solution.. :) I was just wanting to finish the command I was working on (just for fun, I guess) [22:36] MrHales: I've found slack to be good for newbies as long as they don't have to do initial installs [22:37] matt5: since it is for fun, from your original command | xargs kill -9 should do it to [22:37] I'm putting slack on my buddy's Vaio [22:37] rapid: yep, I tried that as well when you first suggested it. :) [22:37] He's not afraid of the future, though [22:37] matt5_: cool [22:38] Action: rapid hands beer around ##slackware [22:38] I refer to my town as Podunk, but I live in east central illinois [22:38] well, alisonken1...if there ever was a nebie to linux/slack, it would be me. but i'll tell ya this, the install was a lot less painless than trying to figure out this aircard [22:38] I've got a 70+ guy that I put slack on, switched him to kubuntu, and he asked for slack back after about 2 weeks [22:38] newbie even [22:38] Action: kitche thinks MrHales will be one that I'll be ignoring [22:38] Please do. [22:38] :-) [22:38] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.48.213) left irc: "Saindo" [22:39] dunno much about linux but someday, windoze will definitely take a back seat [22:39] at least with macvaity( yes I know I killed the spelling) I can stand him :) [22:39] MrHales- americano :D [22:40] jiffypop: especially if they switch to cloud computing [22:40] I've found Slackware to be a great learning tool. [22:40] and your point is? [22:40] I have missed something here. There seems to be just troll baiting going on [22:41] panzer: noo , he is just ahappy slacker.. [22:41] it's also a slow sunday evening [22:41] ken` (n=user@38.119.107.114) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] can't afford the sunday drives anymore, so time to switch to sunday trolling [22:42] Who was baiting? I was asking an honest question of (presumably) knowledgeable people that required a single word answer. [22:42] alisonken1home: slow sunday means I am reading about how nice a midrange mac tower would be [22:42] here is already monday... :s [22:42] panzer: even better after it get's a facelift with Linux [22:42] alisonken1home: why not then a PC? [22:43] well, i first started with knoppix cause i wasn't hip to fuxoring my hdd or windows installation but then i overcame that fear and installed it. then tried ubuntu and then ended up with slack. will i ever be efficient with linux? hard tellin [22:43] Not exactly a poll, but sorta. I don't have a spare box, because my budget is thinner than my personality. I don't have the time right now to mess with dual booting and playing distro-du-jour with my spare space and copious free time. [22:43] ok box with nonapple hardware [22:43] but i will say this, slack has definitely put me on the learn this to make that work bus, without a doubt [22:43] on the freebsd mailing list someone said hackintoish is a darwin distro and we all laughed at him [22:44] :D [22:44] since I don't do apple (can't afford the hardware), it's a moot point for me, but especially since apple software is about as dumbed down as MS is, it makes it harder to do things that I want to anyway [22:44] i've never used an apple xserve [22:44] but hey, rworkman: i got a couple questions for ya before i start pasting these logs and such [22:45] and where the hell is snoop? [22:45] lol [22:45] I had naively stumbled across Slackware years before I ever heard of Linux via a brief nod in a Subgenius book to Slackintosh boxen. [22:45] alisonken1home: it is intel hardware now [22:45] panzer: yes with a giant DRM added to it which can easily be passed now [22:46] I've pretty much been intel-type hardware since msdos v1 (except for the sun servers at my last command) [22:46] I m surprised that Sun has not built a new workstation yet besides the one that been around for a few years [22:46] Anyone with experience: Slackware + Sony Vaio? [22:46] about 10 years ago [22:47] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.179) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:48] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [22:48] not yet, MrHales but hopefully soon. i'm runnin slack on an old vaio laptop i got from this woman i moved from atlanta to dalls [22:48] dallas even [22:49] or i should say slack is runnin' me [22:49] yea, that would be more like it [22:50] but for now, it's smoke break [22:50] wOOt [22:50] This is of the newer sort, an NS, and I'm having difficulty finding the information I need on the official site. [22:52] think I'll try messing around with HAMMERFS [22:52] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:53] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] U-Neeks (i=555@200-193-251-120.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:55] omg, xchat is eating 800MB of ram... [22:55] Action: edman007 turns the scrollback size down a bit... [22:57] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.105.106) joined ##slackware. [22:57] wait...10000 lines of scrollback can't suck up that much ram... [22:57] Mellar (n=brebbesv@ti400720a080-3037.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [22:58] I've 20000 lines of scrollback on xchat, never encountered a problem with that [22:58] Mellar_ (n=brebbesv@ti400720a080-3037.bb.online.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:58] yea edman007 you got other issues [22:58] (small favour: can someone please /say my nick really quickly :x) [22:58] matt5_, no [22:59] Action: panzer says matt5_ really quickly 3 times [22:59] rworkman: http://rafb.net/p/gTsDah31.htm [22:59] great, one last time, please [23:00] matt5_, i said no [23:00] jiffypop: 404 error [23:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] jiffypop: forgot the l in htm [23:01] I think I've got it working. thanks :) (I was tring to get a dedicated window to record all instances of highlighted words - http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi ) [23:01] wow.. after all that time with the forums' wild goose chases, i finally figured out why I couldn't get MySQL to work. PHP was looking for the config file in C:\WINDOWS. right there in my face the entire time.. :| [23:01] nice [23:01] Action: edman007 is still waiting for FF to come back from that last fly by that Mr OOM Killer did :/ [23:01] so how do you tell php to look in c:\php for the php.ini instead of c:\windows? [23:01] hashed_, recompile [23:01] does anyone had problems with a ps2 mouse in slackware, it sometimes goes crazy [23:02] hashed_: 'php -C c:\php' maybe? [23:02] omg.. i'm in slackware. haha, sorry ;) [23:02] U-Neeks (i=555@200-193-251-120.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [23:02] dmesg says that it lost sync [23:02] alisonken1home: only on some _really_screwball equipment [23:02] Action: hashed_ deserves tomatoes, eggs, whatever you got in the face.. talking about windows IIS in slackware :\ [23:02] dissociative: duh - that last one was for you [23:02] meant to post that to #php [23:02] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host81-87-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:02] rworkman: http://rafb.net/p/qoz [23:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] bah [23:03] jiffypop: forgot the html again :) [23:03] scratch that [23:03] lol [23:03] well [23:03] i'm actually on a friend's box in here [23:03] and i'm online with my laptop doing the pasting [23:03] soooo [23:04] hashed_, same answer [23:04] i'm doing it the hard way as opposed to the smart way [23:04] "on a friend's box" <---- how kinky. i like that. [23:04] the main config is a compile time option, though many options can be set outside of that config [23:05] you know it, antler. sad thing is, her ex husband is like 10 feet from me :-/ [23:05] jiffypop: even kinkier. is he watching from the chair? [23:05] hey I am on a friends box too [23:05] but got to love irssi and ssh [23:06] I *am* a friend's box, but only on Thursdays. [23:06] MrHales: oh god. you're the receiver, it seems. :D [23:06] running a dual display G5 mac here [23:06] panzer: oh boy did you ever upgrade! [23:06] rworkman: http://rafb.net/p/qozOkj48.html [23:06] Yeah, but I'm a terrible catch, you know? Too bad I can't 'make clean' my house. [23:06] panzer: when'd you get that? [23:06] PeeArr (n=aaron@c-67-172-158-104.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] when I moved into the friends house [23:07] 22inch mac display and a 21inch crt [23:07] now you're just showing off.... :P [23:07] alisonken1home: I wonder if that mouse behavior goes by hand with some SETUP option called PCI Zero Writestate delay [23:07] edman007: thank you. i'll look into that when i have more time [23:08] antler: hey now ain't my stuff. I just sleep on the couch [23:08] I had to disable it because I seem to have retarded hardware [23:08] I run irc on a insanely fast 400mhz cel. [23:09] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.138.134.51) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:09] panzer: oh hahaha so you didn't Really upgrade :P [23:09] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] rworkman: http://rafb.net/p/QLVnur72.html [23:09] of course not [23:10] :( [23:10] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:11] antler: I did get a stack of six 1U dual Athlon MP servers [23:11] and a pair of 3U 8 pata drives [23:12] rworkman: http://rafb.net/p/HpmgZD64.html [23:13] tea4me__ (n=tea4me@pool-98-118-71-66.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:13] panzer: does that even count? :P [23:14] well since my desktop main at the shop is a dual P3 1gig you tell me [23:14] tea4me__ (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-7-200.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] rworkman: http://rafb.net/p/2EfLjc43.html [23:15] jiffypop: I still think rworkman is idle [23:15] slackware idol. sing jiffypop ! [23:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:16] that's fine [23:17] tea4me__ (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-7-200.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:17] jiffypop: ok - that one works [23:17] i imagine he'll get back sooner or later [23:17] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:18] rworkman: http://rafb.net/p/nTzOak68.html [23:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:18] ok, i'm done [23:18] sooooo [23:18] i gotta go smoke [23:18] smoke a cigar for me [23:19] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [23:20] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:20] Reached (n=jeremiah@24.238.92.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] Greetings all! I am back! [23:23] crack open the champagne? [23:24] Im more of a vodka man. [23:24] Nick change: aceofspa1es19 -> aceofspades19 [23:26] PeeArr (n=aaron@c-67-172-158-104.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.3.1" [23:26] no can do, panzer. no stronger than a marlboro [23:27] but, i gotta call it a night. got 2 shipments to load up for virginia tomorrow. i'll stop in tomorrow night and dazzle y'all with my ignorance [23:27] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:28] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:29] i'm having a tough time with lilo, my current kernel see's my sata driver as hdc but the new kernel will see it as sda. how do i make this install right ? [23:30] jiffypop (i=jiffypop@d118-75-143-208.nap.wideopenwest.com) left irc: "later, folks" [23:31] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:35] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:35] Soul_keeper: just edit your lilo.conf file and put boot = /dev/sda instead of /dev/hdc if i understand your question properly? [23:36] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] if i do that, then when i run lilo -v is complains [23:36] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] whats the message it spits out at you when you run it? [23:37] innapropriate ioctl for device [23:38] frullet_: small problem with that, lilo will fail as it probably at *that* time can't find /dev/sda. [23:38] yeah it thinks sda is my usb flash stick [23:38] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "leaving" [23:39] so i need to install to the hdc mbr, then reboot and have it boot sda (which was hdc) [23:39] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [23:39] if i'm understanding this right, once lilo -v is run then it's all set, doesn't read lilo.conf during boot does it ? [23:41] i could always create a bootable usb image, startup to the slack boot and install lilo there, but that's too much hassle [23:41] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.235) left irc: "leaving" [23:42] sorenp1 (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [23:43] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:44] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] taquito (n=rich@cpe-76-168-152-22.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:47] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. 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[23:56] thanks for clarifying [23:56] Soul_keeper : you're SOL, if you got a buggy config. get a cd [23:56] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:57] there is a kernel config option for specifying boot arguments at built time apparently [23:57] takes the boot loader out of the equation to some extent [23:57] i wonder if that'll work [23:58] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [23:59] screw it i'll just do things the hard way, make myself a bootable slack usb stick that actually see's the drive as sda after boot, then install lilo from there [00:00] --- Mon Mar 2 2009