[00:00] eh, also, I leave the "you are about to close 37 tabs, are you sure?" warning enabled [00:00] yeah FF still does it, as do most apps with tabs [00:00] there should never be a "poison" key right next to a useful one [00:01] even my frigging Atari 800 from 1979 has plastic guards on the Reset button [00:01] yup [00:01] ...interesting [00:01] but I always use ctrl-F4 to close FF tabs, never even knew ctrl-W existed [00:01] I'm going to look at a vim-firefox browsing experience [00:01] redtricycle: vimperator? [00:01] agentc0re: lol...'specially at the end with Colorado kid and his sis openin' a can of whoop-a$$ on the dude in the zombie outfit..:D [00:02] Urchlay, its a GTK option, FF uses GTK, and therefore inherits some of it...but not all :/ [00:02] Urchlay: ooo [00:02] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [00:02] redtricycle: let me know how you like that, I was considering messing with vimperator but don't want to upgrade to FF 3 just to try it out [00:02] dyforc (n=enigma@222.172.214.17) joined ##slackware. [00:02] hello [00:03] i've made a patch for fglrx 9.3 and it successfully working with 2.6.29 kernen :) [00:03] (there are old versions that work on FF2 maybe, haven't checked) [00:03] kernel* [00:03] dyforc: post it somewhere! [00:03] MLanden: Those kids were so terrified but they still beat the shit outa that zombie. [00:03] kids 1, zombie 0 [00:03] yeah,agentc0re [00:03] Urchlay: this is a little scary [00:04] Urchlay: yep, now i'm generating patch file :) [00:04] Urchlay: but it's cool! I can scroll around with my keyboard [00:04] redtricycle: you already could, with the arrow keys (except if the cursor ends up inside a form field...) [00:04] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:04] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:04] Urchlay: nod, but the point is to not have to move your typing hand 4 inches to get to the arrows [00:05] redtricycle: true [00:05] these days I've been scroll-wheel-less for maybe 3-4 years, so arrow keys and pgup/pgdown seem like old friends [00:05] stef_208 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: "OOH" [00:06] Urchlay, why not use a xbindkeys throwing signals to xvkbd? you can then do it for any app. dont need an extension then. [00:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [00:07] xbindkeys sees ctrl+i sends pg/up to xvkbd (or whatever keys you want) [00:08] Old_Fogie: cause I'm a lazy bastige? [00:08] thats' how I have my fancy mice buttons operating my scanner :) [00:08] 'lazy' hahah I know the feeling [00:08] and cause I pretty much only ever use xterms + firefox + xpdf and some gui torrent client [00:09] (currently transmission, which sort-of does arrow-key navigation) [00:09] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:11] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:11] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:11] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:11] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:11] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:11] WillieWanka1 (n=alexei@adsl-190-32-105.asm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [00:11] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:12] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:12] one of these days I'll get less lazy and find a really nice console bittorrent client [00:12] ruben23 (n=AGENT@122.55.48.242) left ##slackware. [00:12] what dont you like about rtorrent? [00:12] one that lets me start e.g. a torrent of 20 files and tell it "only download this one file", then later change my mind [00:13] rtorrent can do that... [00:13] redtricycle: last time I tried it was 5 years ago, what I didn't like was I couldn't get it to compile :) [00:13] hey, slackbuildsorg makes compiling rtorrent way easy [00:13] I might love it if I got motivated to try it again... [00:13] E-cookie? [00:13] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] what is it, curses based? [00:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:14] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "leaving" [00:14] Urchlay: yes, rtorrent is curses based [00:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:14] http://www.driveinpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/chocolate_chip_cookie.jpg motivation for Urchlay? [00:15] ah, if only it were that easy :) [00:16] Action: edman007 licks the screen [00:16] redtricycle, HEY, that cookie tastes like LCD! [00:16] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] okay, whenever I try out new softwar [00:17] I get zero work done for the night [00:17] -_- [00:17] redtricycle, give me a cookie! are you near NYC? [00:17] edman007: you're talking in a public channel about dropping LCD? [00:17] oh, wait... [00:18] edman007: on the other side of the coast, friend [00:18] on the other coast, rather [00:18] =P [00:19] Urchlay, i don't do drugs, i'm not into all those drug terms...i'm not even good with the alcohol ones...and i do drink (though nowhere near enough) [00:19] redtricycle, well then its going to be a long night for you..i want those cookies in 12 hours or less [00:20] and i want them hand delivered [00:21] Urchlay, ...i have not had alcohol since thanksgiving [00:21] I made cookies for my gf once [00:21] pain in the ass [00:21] really? [00:21] yah [00:21] it takes forever [00:21] and, if you microwave store-bought cookies [00:21] it's just as good [00:21] Except, you know [00:21] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] it's missing love. [00:21] =P [00:22] redtricycle, lies, not chocolate chip ones...you roll them into balls, put them on a pan, and pray that there is enough dough left over to actually make cookies [00:23] ...usually its mostly hits my mouth before the over... [00:24] Nick change: sars -> futureistyranny [00:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432815.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:25] -e s/over/oven/ -e s/its/it/ [00:26] edman007: I haven't had alcohol since... what, last Friday? [00:27] even then 'twas only one weak beer :( [00:27] marcu reichelt, are you here by chance? [00:27] marcus, rather [00:27] ill be whoever you want, cutie [00:27] anyway the "dropping LCD" was a joke on "dropping LSD", surely you get acid jokes? (star trek 4, "my friend did too much LDS"...) [00:28] straterra: be gone [00:28] :) [00:29] straterra, more sexy pics! [00:29] Netcraft confirms it: my laptop is dying. [00:29] damn [00:29] yeah [00:29] more rum then bed [00:29] and now is not a good time to buy one :/ [00:29] no more pictures please! I just had my second dinner. [00:29] Urchlay, does not sound very funny...i don't get it :( [00:29] :) [00:30] edman007: eh, well, it was Shatner... people either think he's funny or they don't, there's no explaining it [00:30] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: Success [00:30] Urchlay, yea...i've been recording star treck recently, watching what i can [00:31] mainly because the sci-fi channel is low on new stuff, and i don't remember any trek episodes [00:31] you're not screenshotting blue alien girls and making wallpaper's out of em' are you edman007 ? [00:31] :) [00:31] Old_Fogie, that sounds like something that deserves a google image search! [00:32] hahah, awe man should'a kept my mouth closed [00:32] skiffy channel blows goats anyway [00:33] their only good original series was the new galactica, and that's over now [00:34] ...i think BSG was the only one i did not like (besides the ghost/ufo/ecw shit) [00:34] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.10.87) joined ##slackware. [00:34] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-142-110.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:34] I liked BSG except the ending sucked [00:34] Thurin1 (i=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:35] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:35] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:36] BSG was too damn random for me...every time i tried to watch it they just kept referring to random ass shit that i didn't see...i got the feeling that you can't understand it without starting at the very beginning, and i'm not going to buy the whole DVD set to find out if its worth it [00:38] Old_Fogie, BTW, googling for "blue alien girls" returns very few things that might be blue and female...mostly stupid cartoon stuff [00:38] hahah [00:38] the alien girls in Trek were usually green, and called "orion slave girls", try that [00:38] oh my, you know the names of them? hahah :) [00:38] (eh, but don't try it if you're at work...) [00:39] think Old_Fogie thinkin' of the Andorans(sp.) [00:39] Urchlay, now that works! [00:39] andorians were blue [00:39] Old_Fogie: hey, I grew up watching Trek reruns (it came on after sat. morning cartoons when I was a kid, I soon discovered I could sleep until Trek time and not miss anything worthwhile) [00:40] don't recall seeing any female andorians though [00:40] there were a couple of fruity-looking male ones [00:41] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.10.87) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:41] heh, google result: "Orion Slave Girls; the green skinned women of Star Trek.Index [00:41] "This site may harm your computer." [00:41] bwahaha [00:42] pur your computer condom on [00:42] =D [00:42] harm your coputer? [00:42] what kind of a message is that, lol [00:42] heh, and if you click the link, you get a google page warning you not to go to the site [00:43] with no apparent link to the actual URL (had to copy/paste it) [00:43] i turned that off in safari. hated it [00:43] I've never seen that before, not even when searching for pr0n [00:43] i got it on some good pron site...forget [00:43] was harhing my buzz [00:43] harshing [00:43] =D [00:44] it looks like something google's doing, probly have to disable it there (which would require logging in for pr0n searches, which I would not want to do...) [00:44] its not just searches [00:44] its browser based i think [00:44] Portmapper2004 (n=Port@188.52.210.249) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:45] nah, this is definitely google-based. The URL you get if you try to go from the google results page to the actual site is http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/trinidad/1487/ [00:46] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:46] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.102.212) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [00:46] Urchlay: it is browswer based, its in safrari [00:46] check your prefs [00:46] ill screenshot my prefs for you =D [00:47] so what, FF is rewriting google's search results, to go to a google page? [00:47] in Safari its listed under secruty as Fraudulent Sites [00:47] no [00:47] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:47] then there's this page: http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/trinidad/1487/&hl=en [00:47] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [00:47] google provides data to the broswer periodically i think [00:47] that one only gives error for me if i have the safe browsing thing on [00:47] if it turn it off the page is fine [00:47] just loading fortunecity.com/... [00:48] it's not real clear to me what horrible thing is supposed to happen... especially with adblock and noscript [00:48] you would be the exception to the protection i would guess. [00:48] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] im not sure if its url based or content [00:48] sakuramboo (n=sakuramb@ool-43504efe.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] I see nothing in FF's prefs that looks like it fits... [00:49] but google provides the data and the browser filters [00:49] what happened with /proc/acpi ? [00:49] dyforc (n=enigma@222.172.214.17) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:49] Urchlay: it may be in about:config ? [00:49] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-157-99.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:49] acidkill: probably. Any setting I'd ever actually want to change always ends up being there instead of the prefs dialogs [00:50] eh. I'm looking at the same thing in links now though [00:50] lol [00:51] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.26.195) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:51] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:51] and lynx too [00:51] dunno, theres an option in safari...im guessing google has an api? no clue [00:52] having lynx and links do it..thats weird [00:52] they wouldnt share a ff coockie would they? [00:52] cookie [00:52] nope [00:52] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] also unless FF is lying to me, I don't have it saving cookies to disk [00:53] maybe its a hack =) [00:53] heh, curl retrieves a "forbidden" error [00:53] lol [00:54] really is strange now [00:54] wget doesn't, but then I've got my user-agent set to Mozilla in .wgetrc [00:54] (and yes, wget is giving me the same "may harm your computer" link) [00:56] hm [00:56] not sure at all how thats working [00:56] gotta be server-side [00:56] i dont get how that would be... [00:57] puts the Im Dangerous bit to 1 and sends the page? [00:57] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:57] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:57] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-247-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.78.15) joined ##slackware. [00:58] theres a google analytics thing on the page...dunno if that is involved [00:58] eh, and also, I did it manally with "telnet www.google.com" and "GET GET /search?hl=en&q=orion%20%20slave%20girls HTTP/1.0\n\n" [00:58] er, manually [00:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [00:58] er, and only one GET in the GET request of course [00:58] anything different in the header? [00:58] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.78.15) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:58] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:58] pastebin it [00:59] =) [00:59] and to port 80... wtf, I can't type worth a damn [00:59] Action: edman007 cuts off Urchlay [00:59] wait...you are searching still? [00:59] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.78.15) joined ##slackware. [00:59] now you can't type! [00:59] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432815.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:59] http://pastie.org/464756 [00:59] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:00] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.78.15) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:00] that's me telnetting to the port, sending GET request by hand, and the entire response including HTTP headers [01:00] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] a bit hard to read due to lack of newlines in their HTML though [01:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:01] I can only conclude it really is something happening server-side... [01:02] wb,firebird619 [01:02] well, if you are going through google [01:02] ya [01:02] MLanden: thanks MLanden. [01:02] but i have an option in browser [01:02] (er, and I can conclude that I must be a seriously bored mofo to investigate it this thoroughly...) [01:02] like ive been saying lol [01:02] go to just http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/trinidad/1487/ [01:02] does that option only work for the browser's built-in google toobar thingy, or does it affect searches done thru google.com site also? [01:02] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.78.15) joined ##slackware. [01:03] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:03] acidkill: page loads right up, no griping or warnings or anything [01:03] i put that url right in the bar [01:03] ya, i had one of those sites come up at work today when someone got a virus. [01:03] yup, I did too [01:03] safari does have a gogole search thing in the bar [01:03] I thought no scripts was doing it, but i don't have no scripts on my home pc. [01:03] does or does not? [01:04] well, it isnt a google bar [01:04] no [01:04] but it is a seach thing, but i think you can change who that uses [01:04] but i put the url in the url space [01:04] Action: acidkill says but again [01:04] so did i, i just clicked your link. [01:04] and what happened when you put the URL into the URL space? [01:04] bamn, reported attack site. [01:04] *that* would be browser side [01:05] yup [01:05] in safari it is [01:05] but I bet it looks nothing like what I was seeing... screenshot it? [01:05] theres an option [01:05] (if only to satisfy my curiosity.. I'll likely never run safari again...) [01:05] k =) [01:05] karlmag_ (n=karlmag@IT010246.UIB.NO) joined ##slackware. [01:06] karlmag (n=karlmag@IT010246.UIB.NO) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:07] want me to imageshack it? [01:08] h00k (n=enigma@222.172.214.17) joined ##slackware. [01:10] http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/165/warningg.jpg [01:10] fglrx 9.3 patch for 2.6.29 kernel, hope i will be useful : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/fglrx-9.3-patch-for-2.6.29.x-kernel-722858/ [01:10] i've seen a similar warning before [01:11] Nick change: h00k -> dyforc [01:11] i like spelling words with switches: [01:11] rsync -alive ssh ... etc [01:11] teehee "alive" [01:11] agh, try that dcc again, I was up walking around [01:11] check the imageshack link [01:12] dyforc (n=enigma@222.172.214.17) left ##slackware. [01:13] wow xp is a $130 option on a new dell desktop [01:16] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:16] ah, I have short attention span (keep getting called away to do silly stuff) [01:17] yup, that looks completely unlike the google-generated one [01:17] eh, and I'm talking to a void, he went away... [01:18] redtricycle: "netstat -pants" [01:20] heh, "diff -uraNus" [01:20] haha [01:21] it bugs me how people on the radio will purposely pronounce words incorrectly, because it sounds inappropriate [01:21] like "pianist" [01:21] or "uranus" [01:21] they'll say "pee-ann-ist" and "yur-ren-is" [01:21] "We astronomers got tired of those stupid jokes about Uranus 300 years ago, so we renamed the planet" [01:21] 'What did you name it?' [01:21] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.74.188) joined ##slackware. [01:22] "Urectum" [01:22] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [01:22] hey acidkill [01:22] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.74.188) left irc: Client Quit [01:22] how should 'pianist' be pronounced? [01:22] no accent on the "an"... PEE-uh-Nist [01:23] pee ann est [01:23] antler: as dirty as possible =D [01:23] penist [01:23] I guess it just depends on where you are from :P [01:23] Urchlay: you get that link? [01:23] the silly "you-ren-iss" for Uranus is actually correct in UK english, isn;t it? [01:23] pee' a nist, no? [01:24] acidkill: yeah. If I'd know you were looking at a dialog and not a web page, I'd have known we weren't talking bout the same thing... [01:24] no, thats the page [01:24] I've never seen a dialog like yours, I was getting an actual web page whose URL started with google.com [01:24] macs are just sleek =D [01:24] lol [01:25] really? that looks like a dialog, at least partly cause of the size/shape of it [01:25] it has shading [01:25] its cool css i guess =) [01:25] (am used to fullscreen or at least really large browser windows) [01:25] cli tor' is, clit' or is...same shit [01:25] i have my browser at about 2/3 screen on a 1920x1280 or whatever [01:25] antler: or could pronounce "clitoris" as "trackpoint" like IBM does :) [01:26] thats fullsize, but its just a box in the center of the page like that...no dialog [01:26] acidkill: ah, you didn't include the giant borders around it then? [01:26] Urchlay: :P [01:26] there are no boarders, the grey is the background of the whole page, i cropped that [01:27] yeah, that's what I meant [01:27] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] but does that page have a different URL than the one you entered in the URL bar? [01:27] nope [01:28] yuck. So it really *should* be a dialog, or anyway it's functioning as one [01:28] its brower based, i have the option to turn it on or off... [01:28] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:28] only question [01:28] is the data local [01:28] bet it is [01:28] do i have a blacklist from google [01:29] or is it a filter that matches page content, not url [01:29] I'd guess (just from the wording of the warning) that it's a local filter, some regexes and/or heuristics [01:29] but... it's a guess [01:30] you could tcpdump and slog through all the traffic, find out for sure, if you *really* want to know :) [01:30] i doubt each url would get passed to google, people would have a fit. so something local makes sense [01:30] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] that, or there might be a database that the browser fetches periodically from google [01:30] berke (n=will@76.4.244.139) joined ##slackware. [01:30] a ya [01:31] ill look into tomorrow, bed is calling [01:31] (it's likely just a list of domain names, maybe not even with partial URL paths) [01:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-247-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:31] heh [01:31] it isnt an old feature [01:31] i remember it popped on one day [01:31] berke (n=will@76.4.244.139) left ##slackware. [01:31] and i couldnt figure how to turn it off because the fraud lable in safari didnt seem applicable [01:31] right after one of those updates the OS "gently reminds" you to do? [01:32] probably [01:32] hit applt+h and hide them [01:32] if its non criticle if been known to kill the update program [01:32] lol [01:32] reboot for itunes? hell no! [01:32] applt is the actual name of one of those silly apple keys with the abstract Celtic knotwork on them? [01:33] WAY back i remember it being called the Open Apple key [01:33] but i dont know really [01:33] hash could work make [01:33] yeah, becase WAY back, it had an actual picture of an apple on it [01:33] mine still does [01:33] has both [01:34] (one key had an outline of an apple (open apple), the other had a solid filled-in apple (closed apple)) [01:34] The keyboard for the apple computer I have has the "open apple" key. It's an old apple pc. [01:34] i have shift, control, alt/option, open apple/hash [01:34] thats left side =) [01:34] yeah, I'm either thinking of a "mac classic" 68K machine, or maybe an Apple IIe/IIc [01:35] they always had open apple [01:35] some had "closed apple" too though [01:35] but i cant say i remember anything else about macs lol [01:35] woh3 (n=woh3@76.4.244.139) joined ##slackware. [01:35] i still have an award for a programming class in LOGO or whatever, loved that class lol [01:35] hmm, remember any of it? [01:36] was comma seperated coordinates or something i think [01:36] up n spaces, left n spaces. anyway [01:36] bed time =D [01:36] earlier to bed, earlier tomorrow is done [01:37] good night acidkill. :) [01:37] I remember commands based on angles... like LEFT 90 to turn 90 degrees and something like FORWARD 10 to draw in whatever direction you're facing [01:37] go ta bed aready [01:38] Action: frullet goes on holidays today [01:38] Hi frullet. How are you? [01:39] good mate yourself? [01:39] great, thanks. [01:40] Zamboli (n=Merriam@freke.odin.pdx.edu) joined ##slackware. [01:40] major updates in current again. xfce 4.6.1 too [01:42] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:45] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:47] slacknode (n=m@98.196.95.141) joined ##slackware. [01:48] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [01:48] Thurin1 (i=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [01:50] take care,folks [01:50] later MLanden. Take care. [01:50] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:50] would a rpm2tgz on a vmware server rpm be a bad idea? [01:50] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:50] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [01:50] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:51] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Knightingale: don't the newer vmware versions all require PAM? [01:53] if that's the case, it probably wouldn't hurt anything to install the tgz you made, but it won't actually run [01:55] hrrm. [01:56] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) left irc: "Leaving." [01:56] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:58] why can't i just install PAM then? [01:59] eh, it's not trivial, from what I hear [02:00] configuration issues mainly - plus dependencies and other programs have to be pam-aware [02:00] you might ask someone who's messed with it (alienbob or rworkman probably know, if they were awake) [02:00] woh3 (n=woh3@76.4.244.139) left irc: "Leaving" [02:00] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:01] i don't think i'll both it looks like its going to be a dirty install from this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/using-slackware-in-vmware-490483/ [02:02] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:03] oh heh. that post was about windows vm [02:03] SheVa7 (n=vadim@77.126.25.17) joined ##slackware. [02:04] SheVa7 (n=vadim@77.126.25.17) left ##slackware. [02:05] slacknode (n=m@98.196.95.141) left irc: "leaving" [02:07] Knightingale: nullboy has made pam slackbuilds if you want to wait and consult him. [02:10] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.216.212.3) joined ##slackware. [02:11] I recall someone saying for vmware, you just need to make the /etc/pam.d directory and vmware should work with that. don't know which version of vmware it was tho, or who. [02:12] hm [02:14] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] i think it would be appropriate to include pam in the next release if vmware depends on it. [02:15] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.78.15) left irc: "leaving" [02:15] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] Knightingale, ain't ever going to happen for a proprietary app [02:17] thats a bit stubborn. [02:17] a lot of people would need vmware. [02:17] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:18] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] it's not stubborn, it's just never going to happen. do you have any idea of what pam does/needs/is and how it will relate to slack? for one commercial app, no it will never happen. [02:19] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:19] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] now, if there were a ton of apps that truly needed it, and there were no alternatives to them apps that dont require pam, then you might see pam enter mainline slackware. but it wont be in next, release or any releases soon. [02:20] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:21] Knightingale: the community will come up with a way to run vmware, if enough people are interested in it... but now that virtualbox is getting decent, why not use it? (open source is better) [02:22] (although there's no open source equivalent to full VMware Server I suppose... I'm still thinking in terms of using a vm for desktop apps/gaming, which isn't what you probably want with vmware server...) [02:22] well server is needed to creat the initial vm no? so I guess chicken/egg a vmware server has to be in the loop somewhere's. [02:23] but vbox is nice, oss one here , gotta luv it :) [02:23] jaguargt (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [02:23] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:24] 2009-04-30 ruby (SSA:2009-120-01) [02:24] Nick change: jaguargt -> dhabyx [02:24] updates for slack ^^ [02:24] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:24] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:24] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:24] woh, updates to --current to [02:26] I'm thinking of the expensive VMware server that lets you cluster a bunch of machines together and dynamically move VMs around between them [02:26] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.197.128) joined ##slackware. [02:26] dunno what all it's capable of actually, but it's more than vbox opensource or even commercial claims to do [02:27] I suppose. Devil's advocate in me says "If you got *that* kind of money to buy vmware commercial, your probably in a company who buys commercially supported linux's which have pam" [02:27] and I wouldn't disagree with you [02:27] although I'd love to see more commercial use of slackware (would love to get hired to admin slack servers...) [02:28] that would be nice to see, yup [02:28] I did it for 5+ years at my old job, but I was the one who decided to use slack in the first place [02:28] (nobody else there knew enough to even have an opinion, I didn't have to argue or convince anyone) [02:29] problem is, and I'm being a wise ass, but many "linux admin's" are "windows hotel certified on weekends" and so they use 'point click linux' and think Slackware is "too hard ...(rub tears in eyes)" [02:29] well I wouldn't be happy working in the kinds of jobs they're looking for anyway, most likely [02:29] tiegerrex_ (n=tiegerre@blfd-4db1c43a.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [02:29] hey [02:29] (I wasn't happy in the job I'm talking about, after the first 2 years or so) [02:29] "we need to buy contracts..thats' how we do it in windows..and we need a fortun 500 company linux..cuz if we have to sue them we can" [02:30] tiegerrex_ (n=tiegerre@blfd-4db1c43a.pool.einsundeins.de) left ##slackware. [02:30] bingo - and Old_Fogie scores another one [02:30] :D [02:30] yup, and I'm permanently out of that world [02:30] is that from fortune? [02:31] (whether I want to be or not, I suspect) [02:31] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:31] It's true tho. They're just getting their hands held .. not by MS but by a "commercially supported distro"... bleh, poppy-kock I say. [02:32] sahko, no I made that up from my interpretartion of reading blogs, new articles over the years, and reviews of slackware by complete idiots who claim to be linux admins. [02:33] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:33] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] maybe fortune should add custom quotes from noobfarm etc. its unmaintained anyway [02:38] tr0j4n (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [02:38] you could do up you own file of fortunes and submit it to slackbuilds.org (I did, the firefly_fortunes package) [02:39] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.14) joined ##slackware. [02:39] hi [02:39] what could i use to create screencasts on slackware 12.2 ? [02:40] I dunno about the castings, but if you want to record , you can use gtk-recordmydesktop [02:40] i am new to using slackpkg, and i ran slackpkg upgrade-all after 'update' and have picked a -current mirror; its telling me i'v egot duplicate versions of the same package; it's asking me if i should blacklist, remove, or ignore; I'm not really sure what they're wanting me to do....remove 'all' packages in the list (removing both versions) or the oldest package, or what? [02:43] actually no I didn't, found the firefly fortunes somewhere, I just packed them up for SBo... but creating a fortune file isn't hard (it's a text file, with "%%" on a line by itself after each quote) [02:43] oh i see. that's quite intuitive. nevermind. [02:44] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.14) left irc: "Leaving" [02:53] theoffset (n=ismael@200-56-214-51-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:57] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-157-235.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:59] http://www.timecube.com/ [03:03] uhm [03:04] I think this timecube site might have been made by this psycho who used to come into the waffle house at 3AM and talk about how he was going to take classes to learn to control peoples' minds and shoot death rays from his palms [03:04] Did he ever graduate? :) [03:04] ...from the classes I mean hee hee [03:05] dunno [03:05] I quit that job as soon as I was able [03:05] (I was the waffle house cook...) [03:05] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201009220162.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:06] OTOH, maybe not. Scroll down a bit and it starts getting racist [03:06] this guy might have been a psycho, but he treated everyone with equal weirdness [03:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube he has other sites too http://www.abovegod.com/ http://thegreatestthinker.com/ http://www.thewisesthuman.com/ [03:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:14] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-142-110.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [03:16] Kerio2004 (n=Port@188.52.210.249) joined ##slackware. [03:28] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:29] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host137-77-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:32] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:37] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-157-235.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:38] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@98.246.122.42) joined ##slackware. [03:39] How does Slackware update old python modules to the latest version of python? [03:39] What command to use? [03:40] tr0j4n (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:42] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) got netsplit. [03:42] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) got netsplit. [03:42] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) got netsplit. [03:42] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@masterarms.net) got netsplit. [03:42] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) got netsplit. [03:42] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) got netsplit. [03:42] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [03:42] stunix__ (n=stunix@cm-84.209.3.196.getinternet.no) got netsplit. [03:42] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) got netsplit. [03:42] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-157-235.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:42] Shingoshi: if you have old python modules installed (non-slackware) then a recompile is the only solutuion [03:42] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [03:43] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:43] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) returned to ##slackware. [03:43] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) returned to ##slackware. [03:43] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) returned to ##slackware. [03:43] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [03:43] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) returned to ##slackware. [03:43] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@masterarms.net) returned to ##slackware. [03:43] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) returned to ##slackware. [03:43] stunix__ (n=stunix@cm-84.209.3.196.getinternet.no) returned to ##slackware. [03:43] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) returned to ##slackware. [03:45] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:48] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] ...I forgot how to monitor keypresses [03:48] for my multimedia buttons [03:49] alienBOB: In Gentoo, there was one command that did that for you. I think it was something like python-update? [03:49] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.100.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:49] We don't have the equivalent? [03:49] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.100.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [03:50] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] I'm going to look on Google. Maybe it will give me something. [03:51] gud plan [03:52] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:53] redtricycle, 'xev' ? [03:54] ah! I wasl ooking for that [03:54] elemenohpee (n=raf@cpe-98-150-162-231.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:55] elemenohpee (n=raf@cpe-98-150-162-231.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:56] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.72.182) left irc: "leaving" [03:57] Shingoshi: we are not gentoo. [03:57]