[00:00] Action: usr_local is gone: [00:01] Action: usr_local is back from after 34 secs [00:01] Any of y'all do much UML work by chance? [00:02] rob0, I live in KCK [00:02] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:03] FriedBob, i'm from misery sorry to hear :P [00:04] juice: So am I. And I am about as stubborn as a Missouri Mule too. [00:04] lot of nothing to do around here [00:04] kansas city is better than where i was but still not the greatest [00:07] What part of MO? I was born at Ft Wood, most recently lived in Springfield, and about to move to Sedelia. [00:07] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: even if your intent is a good one you are likely to offend if it is not what the other person wants to hear [00:13] hi guys [00:13] does anyone know how to run a program as root for a normal user's X session (i.e. run kmail from the root shell for joe's X session)? [00:14] I'm putting a pm sleep.d shell script together, which is run as root user and I need to restart kmail on resume [00:14] specktater (~speck@adsl-76-230-125-83.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] Use sudo? [00:15] ilj: yes. 1 sec [00:16] FriedBob, this approach doesn't seem to account for a X session: [00:16] % sudo -u ilj kmail [00:16] (2617)/: Cannot find the D-Bus session server [00:16] XPID=$(pgrep -u joe -f "X .*-auth") [00:17] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:17] uhm [00:17] if [ ! -z "$XPID" ] ; then [00:17] export XAUTHORITY=$(sed 's/\x00/ /g ; s,.*-auth ,, ; s, .*,,' /proc/$XPID/cmdline) [00:17] export DISPLAY=$(sed 's/\x00/ /g ; s,.* \(:[0-9]\) .*,\1,' /proc/$XPID/cmdline) [00:17] Channel flood from alphageek -- kicking [00:17] [00:17] fi [00:17] alphageek kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:17] ah [00:17] alphageek (rooot@206-248-131-150.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [00:17] :) [00:17] ha [00:18] how much of that did you get? [00:18] up to "fi" [00:18] 5 lines [00:18] then you have all of it [00:18] great [00:18] now [00:18] that'll work with 1 caveat [00:19] if joe starts his X session with kdm or suchlike, $XPID will be empty because the only X session(s) found will be owned by root [00:19] aha [00:20] this is the case in my situation [00:20] desktop machine [00:20] using kdm [00:20] specktater (~speck@adsl-76-230-125-83.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Quit [00:20] otoh, if you know there's only going to be the 1 user, change the first line to: [00:20] XPID=$(pgrep -f "X .*-auth") [00:20] aka: skip checking who the user is [00:21] just to idiot proof it, though.. [00:21] XPID=$(pgrep -f "X .*-auth" | head -n1) [00:21] or tail -n1 [00:21] alright, let me try out this little piece of magic :) [00:21] in case joe decides to use startx [00:21] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:23] the only reason I came up with that so quickly is because I've been putting together a custom acpi_handler.sh for my new eeepc & I want OSD goodness for some functions [00:23] juice: I was in the area west of the Plaza, a block away from that park at 47th & State Line. [00:23] http://omegageek.dyndns.org/temp/screenshots/osd.png < thusly [00:24] nice one [00:24] that to me? if so, ty [00:24] alphageek, cool osd you've got there :) [00:24] There should be no need to run kmail as root, ever. You're doing it wrong. [00:25] ilj: thanks. it uses osd_cat from xosd [00:25] rob0, I don't exactly want kmail to be run as root. The thing is I want to start kmail for a normal user from a root shell (a script basically run by root user) [00:25] I played with aosd_cat from libaosd, but I'm slightly underwhelmed. it doesn't do percentage/slider bars [00:26] Why isn't the user running his/her own shell in that case? [00:26] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [00:27] rob0, it's tied to pm-utils and the script I'm putting together is run by pm-utils scripts [00:28] I'm even more confused now. [00:29] kmail is an interactive application, AFAIK. [00:29] If you want something scriptable to send mail? try mutt(1) [00:29] or mail(1) [00:31] I simply need to restart KMail since after resuming a sleep session it stops receiving e-mail from IMAP accounts. I can't wait for KDE developers to fix this bug (even if it's their job at all) so I have to find a way to get KMail working properly after sleep resume. [00:31] restartin the program helps [00:32] alphageek, unfortunately the script you shared doesn't seem to work [00:32] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:32] odd [00:33] alphageek's script is for running a GUI app as root, not for root to start a GUI app as a user. [00:33] 04:12 < ilj> does anyone know how to run a program as root for a normal user's X session ... [00:34] goroot [00:35] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [00:36] For root to start/run a GUI program as user, you would want the DISPLAY set and use "su user - ", see "man su". [00:37] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:37] just cut'n'pasted what I pasted here to a script & replaced '' with '$1' (sans quotes) [00:37] # /home/erik/burst/x_test aterm [00:37] ^ works [00:38] kicks up a copy _as root_ in erik's X session [00:38] to my eyes, that's success [00:38] but that is not what was wanted, poorly worded question (I read it the same way you did.) [00:38] can't fault me for that :) [00:39] yeah [00:39] my bad [00:39] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:39] if joe is the _only_ non-root user defined on the system, that's pretty easy [00:39] I need kmail to be run as joe (normal user) but the user that actually starts the program is root [00:40] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] by defined, I'm talking about having a $HOME [00:40] yes, I need a script to cater for a specific user since this is my personal laptop and I'm the only user of it [00:40] maybe there is a signal kmail can get, just send a signal to the running kmail? [00:41] kill -HUP [00:41] maybe? [00:41] Also, the kio_imap process is separate from the GUI parts. [00:42] iirc, I am no longer running kmail, and when I did, it was KDE 3.5 [00:42] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [00:42] Action: alphageek ponders [00:43] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] hmm.. [00:45] Action: King_Ozzy panders [00:47] woot [00:48] 1 sec, think I may have something [00:49] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [00:51] hmm.. [00:51] Weird issue of the day: I switched over my old Red Hat Enterprise Linux server for a Slackware 13 server yesterday. After the switch over I started getting weird name serving issues, i.e. intermittent pings, etc., but which seemed find for IP based pings. My wife had complained about the wireless over the last week or two, but I didn't think much of it. The wireless box happens to have a four port route to which the second card on the server is conne [00:51] sorta have something [00:52] s/find/fine/ [00:52] sinuhe that made no sense to me an i'm not drunk yet! :) [00:52] s/route/router/ [00:52] all i groked is your rhel box is now slack13 [00:53] mancha: The overheating hub was dropping packets which just happened to be fielding the name server request. [00:53] ilj: partial solution for user discovery.. assuming X was _not_ started with startx, 'who | sed -n "s, .*($DISPLAY),,p"' (coupled with the snippet from earlier) will give you the X session's proper non-root user [00:53] ok, and the rest of the details were just to confuse us? :> [00:54] acidtripper (~gonza@190.188.115.210) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:54] mancha: Perhaps that explains why I found it confusing. :) [00:54] mancha: Things are always clearer in hindsight. [00:55] they say hindsight is 20/20 [00:57] alphageek, thanks man [00:57] Plus, the proximity to the Slackware install had me digging through my named.conf options, and madly running named-{checkconf,zone} [00:57] ilj: welcom [00:57] +e [00:58] rob0, killing kio_imap processes is a great idea... I think it just might be what I need. Thanks for pointing that out! [00:59] sinuhe the old pitfall when debugging with too many variables [00:59] you don't know what caused what [00:59] :) [01:01] HI MANCHA [01:01] er, hi mancha [01:01] Action: King_Ozzy goes streaking through the channel [01:01] Action: sinuhe ducks [01:02] Action: King_Ozzy gooses sinuhe [01:02] Eeew [01:02] it's punny, get it :D [01:02] I got it [01:03] arch linux has failed me [01:03] ? [01:06] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-109.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] Rat409 (rat@bb-205-209-95-109.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.1.1"). [01:19] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:23] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [01:23] \o [01:30] o/ [01:33] Arch Linux hasn't failed you. You have failed Slackware. [01:33] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:34] |Slacker| (~cris@189.116.192.228) joined ##slackware. [01:34] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:30] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:30] I've added a new user with the command: /usr/sbin/useradd -c "Asterisk VoIP PBX" asterisk -s /bin /false -d /home/asterisk asterisk. Then do not make the "home directory", why? [03:31] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4246, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-04-10 03:32:29 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:32] are you asking why the home directory was not created? if so, you have to add it to the command at the same time (-d /home/directory/path) [03:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.126.23) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:33] or are you asking why asterisk user should not have a home directory? [03:34] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.51.132) joined ##slackware. [03:36] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:36] fonseg (~fonseg@58.187.119.170) joined ##slackware. [03:37] if the second, then asterisk just needs a uid so it can be isolated rather than have root privileges, and since it's not really a user - and it uses a different location for different parts- you don't need to waste a home directory entry unless you want to just create space to keep track of other things [03:37] but there is probably a better area for keeping track of asterisk stuff than /home/asterisk anyway [03:40] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:42] grazymax (~grazymax@host227-86-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:42] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:42] "Asterisk" is just an example. My case is this: useradd -d /home/ftpsite virtual [03:45] I need the vsftpd FTP server with virtual users. [03:46] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.43.14) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:48] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [03:50] grazymax (~grazymax@host227-86-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:50] did you check vsftp website for recommended setups? however, I would believe that the reason for a UID and no home directory would be more of a security issue [03:51] you don't want the daemon to run as "nobody" but you don't want it to be idle as root either [03:51] srecko: i use vsftp with asterisk, my polycom file reads its config files via ftp [03:52] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [03:52] *phone [03:56] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.25.109) joined ##slackware. [03:57] d/w 3 [03:59] eycel (~eycel@67-61-15-122.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.22.211) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:00] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [04:00] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:00] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.42.1) joined ##slackware. [04:01] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:04] tari (~adam@2610:130:115:c00:223:54ff:fea4:a5fb) joined ##slackware. [04:06] Well, i noticed after reading through the kernel why my wireless quit working in -current kernel. The wireless drivers that are selected for the card as modules are non-functional according to the kernel docs and are intended for developers (rt2800pci) and non-functional though they are loaded on boot. So if you have a similar problem switching back to rt2800sta staging module will fix this.. [04:08] I think I remember something about that was mentionned in the channel can't remember the outcome though =/ [04:16] usr_local (~usr_local@c-24-98-139-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:18] srecko1 (~srecko@78-1-162-164.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [04:18] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.73) joined ##slackware. [04:18] wertik_rus|orig (~wertik@95-27-125-200.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:18] srecko (~srecko@78-1-138-3.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:19] hi all. current has a bug in cryptsetup: the rc.S refers to /sbin/cryptsetup.static but i DOES NOT EXISTS. [04:19] it is only in /usr/sbin/cryptsetup [04:20] OclkdMan: you didnt update sysvinit-scripts in that case [04:20] or didnt merge .new files [04:20] do kernel developers always have latest hardware kit to test the kernel drivers ? [04:20] i've overwrittend ".new" files with slackpkg [04:20] dustybin: definitely not [04:21] adrien: how can they test? [04:21] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-148-68.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:21] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-31.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:21] dustybin: you can test and report [04:21] aye ok [04:21] xsamurai (~munki@pool-71-165-140-41.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:21] OclkdMan: try slackpkg-upgrade again and see if it gives you anything new. [04:21] OclkdMan: as i dont use slackpkg,cant help you there [04:21] ok thx! [04:21] slackpkg update [04:22] and then if there are changes run slackpkg upgrade-all [04:22] I had a similar problem though not exactly the same. [04:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:22] you can always man slackpkg [04:22] or slackpkg help [04:22] "No packages match the pattern for upgrade" after slackpkg update [04:22] okay [04:23] OclkdMan: slackpkg new-config [04:23] Searching for NEW configuration files No .new files found. [04:24] bash-4.1# ls -All /etc/rc.d/rc.S* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14238 Mar 20 01:14 /etc/rc.d/rc.S -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14287 Feb 7 04:01 /etc/rc.d/rc.S.orig [04:24] I'm looking at mine and it doesn't call for cryptsetup.static [04:25] wertik_rus|orig (~wertik@95-27-125-200.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:26] mmm......wait. [04:29] nvision (~nvision@g229052059.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [04:29] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:30] unxsrv (~unxsrv@adsl-4-211-151.mem.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] unxsrv (unxsrv@adsl-4-211-151.mem.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [04:36] nvision (~nvision@g229052059.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:38] wario: yes you are right but the problem is /sbin/cryptsetup does not exist [04:38] can you check it? [04:39] the NEW rc.6 and rc.S calls /sbin/cryptsetup [04:39] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) joined ##slackware. [04:39] OclkdMan: you are correct.. it's /usr/sbin/cryptsetup [04:40] yes [04:40] maybe it _is_ a bug [04:40] ....it is. i'm in slackware64-current [04:40] OclkdMan: in the meantime make a symbolic link in /sbin/ to /usr/sbin/cryptsetup [04:40] done [04:40] interesting [04:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-51-111.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:42] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.7) joined ##slackware. [04:43] OclkdMan, send an email to pat about the problem [04:43] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) left irc: Quit: 1 maja (MIR MAJ XYU [04:44] ok [04:44] i dont know about that [04:44] i myself am on current and have no issue and know a couple of other ppl , i dont have to review your problem but can you put it in a pastebin or something [04:45] *have time [04:46] fyi, that bug's been noted & will go out with the next batch of updates [04:47] OclkdMan, ^^^ [04:48] the joys of running -current. when stuff breaks, you get to keep both halves :) [04:48] lucky you :) [04:49] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.73) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-51-111.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:56] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:57] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [05:03] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.73) joined ##slackware. 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[05:20] cteg (~heretic@host-091-097-122-032.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [05:21] petterah (~petter@static243-165-178.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:22] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [05:23] how do you like google chrome? [05:26] well chrome is fast [05:26] xsamurai (~munki@pool-71-165-140-41.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [05:26] I don't use it but just tested on some customer desktop [05:27] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:27] OK in order to access the troll damage of 8 hours ago when I was in bed - in my logs I think I found the origin of the two trolls, first logged in as thief` and xerei. Anyone know them, because in case they did not have a ban yet I will put a ban on (just woke up here) [05:27] petterah (~petter@static243-165-178.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [05:28] not me - and one of them was kicked by staff for spam, then the other one left voluntarily [05:30] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:30] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [05:30] OK I will look further [05:35] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [05:35] wow, some people have time to waste [05:36] among other things [05:36] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [05:36] vehn_z (~vehn_z@h62-133-181-73.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:36] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) left irc: Quit: be right back [05:36] what have they done? [05:36] the two guys that were just being jerks [05:37] and one or two others that weren't helping [05:37] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:44] It went on for quite some time too, they were probably both drunk or high [05:45] I was asleep (it was between 3 and 4 AM my time) and there was no other op to kill them [05:45] I doubt they will come back but I banned them nevertheless [05:45] :-) [05:45] ang: so you know [05:48] btw, I have a laptop and a desktop computer with almost all my storage, currently I'm playing music from nfs shares but I also would like to access my files over the internet, any advice (if only ssh tunnels + nfs worked well =/ ) [05:49] oh, and no sshfs, I've only had terribly bad experiences with it [05:49] vpn [05:49] with what? [05:49] openvpn [05:50] free? [05:50] yes [05:51] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:51] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [05:51] ok, was wondering because they mentionned licenses and pricing but it seems free for less than 2 connections [05:51] thanks, will try =) [05:52] err no [05:52] thats for their commercial product [05:52] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:52] yeah, I just noticed there were too things and I had landed on the commercial one [06:05] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:05] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [06:06] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:07] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [06:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:12] vehn_z (~vehn_z@h62-133-181-73.dyn.bashtel.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:13] hey, i'm getting "touch: cannot touch '/var/lock/subsys/messagebus': No such file or directory" on boot up. Any ideas? [06:14] -current, right? [06:14] yes [06:14] mkdir -p /var/locl/subsys [06:15] touch /var/log/subsys/messagebus [06:15] ? [06:15] apart from the typo, do that [06:15] heh, okay [06:15] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:16] the culprit is the missing /var/lock/subsys/ directory [06:16] This is a 'deluge' question. #deluge is dead. I just booted up my PC, (electricity went out) and I am getting this when I try to run delude from command prompt: "config:424 Error backing up old config.." [06:16] wario: when do you get that? [06:16] ...when I try to run *deluge... [06:16] i was getting it on boot up log output. rebooting now to make sure that fixed it [06:17] nvision (~nvision@g229052059.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [06:17] and it did [06:17] alreadygone: that's interesting. any idea why it was not there? [06:17] \o/ [06:17] wario: so, dmesg? [06:18] I don't know. It was working fine before electricity went out [06:18] sahko: just the boot up text output on the screen [06:19] all i have in var/lock is gkrellm sane and subsys now [06:19] agris (~agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:19] Axtroz (~axtroz@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [06:20] speaking of which I can remove gkrellm [06:20] havent seen anything like this here [06:20] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [06:21] well, i had a slight problem when doing slackpkg upgrade-all. I foolishly let /etc/slackpkg/mirrors be updated and it seemed to have borked the install process half way though [06:22] I had a boot error where /proc wouldn't mount as libblkid.so couldn't be found. [06:22] the new slackpkg is much better than before but seems to change too many things [06:22] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:22] yeah, i had to boot with a live usb and chroot in and ran upgrade-all again. [06:23] had some problems today with upgrade-all...showed errors [06:23] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:27] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:27] morning lads =) [06:28] morning [06:28] morning bud [06:29] LugarSivi (~LugarSivi@89-201-211-168.dsl.optinet.hr) joined ##slackware. [06:29] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [06:33] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [06:33] Hello all, I guess this is a common n00b question, not beeing a n00b myself I hate asking for it, but I'm planning a massive amount of reinstall and wondered if anybody know if a new release of slack is about to happen? Seeing alot of updated [a] packages lately... thanks [06:34] tomorrow [06:34] really wario ? [06:34] petterah, afaik this is never announced ahead of time. and the folks who would know best don't feed the rumormill [06:35] nah, i'm joking [06:35] hehe mancha I guess this is true, thanks anyways [06:35] I'll just wait some more i think [06:36] RC is announced in the current changelog though [06:36] you can make some intelligent guesses...like time since last release, amount of changes between last release and current, etc [06:36] er based on, that is [06:37] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [06:37] Can someone tell me please how can I delete/reset all xfce settings to defaults, as in, how they were when I installed xfce? Thanks. [06:37] LugarSivi (~LugarSivi@89-201-211-168.dsl.optinet.hr) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [06:37] woops [06:39] heh [06:41] slink (copy@node-43.blackcore.net) joined ##slackware. [06:41] ok :) [06:43] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:47] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:50] there will probably be an rc first [06:59] Azeotrope (~JBauer@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [06:59] Azeotrope (~JBauer@193.239.140.184) left irc: Changing host [06:59] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:03] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-234-169.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [07:03] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:03] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-234-169.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:04] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-234-169.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [07:05] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:08] Nick change: [OpenSys] -> OpenSys [07:13] grafzero (~grafzero@unaffiliated/grafzero) joined ##slackware. [07:13] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:22] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:31] i'm using enigmail module in thunderbird to generate my keys but it lacks options. what can I use to set the expire date, etc? [07:32] google [07:32] ok... [07:32] hint: gpg [07:35] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:36] yep, thanks. [07:37] can i use it to change the expire date of a key?? [07:37] i.e prolonging it [07:38] this guide is quite good http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/05/10/creating-new-gpgkey/ [07:41] LugarSivi (~LugarSivi@89-201-211-168.dsl.optinet.hr) joined ##slackware. [07:43] you can't set an arbitrary exipiry date... [07:46] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-5-77.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:47] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Azeotrope: "gpg --edit-key " [07:48] cteg (~heretic@host-091-097-122-032.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Quit: this is who we are [07:49] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:51] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [07:55] ip-route (~iproute@unaffiliated/contraventor) joined ##slackware. [07:55] hi [07:55] touch a [07:55] touch: setting times of `a': Function not implemented [07:55] because this? [07:57] ip-route: what version of Slackware, what is the filesystem? [07:57] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:57] alienBOB 12.2 [07:58] That is half the answer [07:58] 2ext3 [07:58] ext3* [07:59] which coreutils version? [07:59] 6.12 [08:00] Is it Slackware 12.2 ip-route... or a distro which is based on Slackware [08:00] Can someone tell me please how can I delete/ reset all xfce settings to defaults, as in, how they were when I installed xfce? Thanks. [08:00] alienBOB this is an VPS with slackware from linode.com [08:00] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [08:00] ip-route: which kernel version? [08:01] sahk0 2.6.18.8 [08:01] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [08:01] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [08:01] and kernel-headers version? [08:01] Seems to be mentioned on the internet more than just by you ip-route : http://forums.vpslink.com/xen/3211-critical-vps-problem-setting-times-function-not-implemented.html [08:02] Perhaps a defect in the VPS software [08:02] sahk0 kernel-headers-2.6.27.31_smp-x86-1 [08:03] "This behaviour should only come about if: You have a <2.6.22 kernel running + glibc >=2.7 + kernel-header >= 2.6.22." a gentoo dev says in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-695264-view-previous.html [08:03] Also the touch in coreutils 6.12 seems to have this as a bug -see http://bugs.gentoo.org/224483 [08:05] 2.6.18.8 was not Slackware 12.2 [08:06] vps strange [08:08] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:08] te_ (1000@conr-adsl-209-169-97-74.consolidated.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:08] is there a swedish holiday topday? [08:09] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:12] rome (~rome@p5DDD913F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [08:14] i think older kernel version was required for xen or something at the time [08:14] phrag: it is saturday, everybody has a day off [08:16] FriedBob (~Drinne@c-68-55-75-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:17] FriedBob (~Drinne@c-68-55-75-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [08:17] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [08:17] lol, aye.. long weekend here, i seem to remember 1st may (may day) as being soem swedish dance around a pole day [08:17] strippers day? [08:17] lol [08:19] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-220-190.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:21] phrag: Mayday is denoted "First of May" ("Fцrsta maj" in Swedish) and has been a public holiday in Sweden since 1939. The main events on Mayday is political demonstrations carried out by the working class organisations and political parties historically associated with the working class movement. [08:21] what a great way to spend a holiday [08:23] ang, you're being sarcastic right? [08:23] i think only US doesnt have public day holidays [08:23] like england has bank holiday on monday [08:23] lol [08:24] lw0x15_: i tried to explain this to an english colleague of mine once. We don't have a holiday because the banks are closed, the banks are closed because it's a holiday :P [08:24] Arirang (~koolaid@c-24-21-186-231.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:25] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [08:25] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) joined ##slackware. [08:25] haha [08:26] you guys should check out ##slackware-offtopic [08:27] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-126.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [08:27] is anyone familiar with qemu? [08:28] rome: somewhat [08:28] yeah rome [08:29] i have an iso image of dvl and want to boot it now with qemu, qut "qemu DVL.iso" doesn't work [08:29] ridout (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:29] is it bootable? [08:30] yes [08:30] joliet? [08:30] think so [08:30] rome: try qemu -cdrom DVL.iso -boot d [08:30] oh yeah the switches! [08:30] thx ill try that [08:31] rome, man qemu if anything [08:31] Sometimes those pesky man pages come in handy. Go figure. [08:31] ang yeah, this works thanks! [08:31] hehe [08:31] rome: no problemo. [08:31] there's no more good music out there anymore ffs [08:32] mach_kernel, what do you usually listen to? [08:32] mach_kernel i have looked in the handbook, but its confusing, you don't get your answers there [08:32] pink floyd [08:32] the who [08:32] led zeppelin [08:32] ++mach_kernel; [08:32] trance? [08:32] pink floyd esp. [08:32] yeah i actually have dabbled into some trance Arirang because there's no more good rock out there [08:32] i don't like all that hippy boyband bullshit [08:33] and that scream genre too makes me want to kill myself [08:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI6urUBRREY [08:33] <3 [08:33] Action: mach_kernel shakes head. [08:33] ridout, i was just listening to Us and Them :D [08:34] Any song from "Dark Side of the Moon" is grand. [08:35] money is great, shit i was a kid and wanted quad channel audio to listen to it [08:35] I can't stand the contemporary American pop music [08:35] yeah no absolutely not [08:35] Even their earlier songs before that album release was great. [08:35] some modern rock bands are OK, like coldplay, but even them, all their songs sound like they're castrated [08:36] Europeans have more diversity [08:36] yeah [08:37] trance/psytrance is getting old too, I need something new to listen to [08:37] aphex twin [08:38] Arirang, listen to Windowlicker - Aphex Twin [08:39] I was listening to Aegosopolis [08:39] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:48] |Slacker| (~cris@189.116.192.228) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:48] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad [08:50] Korsi (~Korsi@adsl-85-217-43-105.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [08:51] D3lahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:51] |Slacker| (~cris@189.64.253.71) joined ##slackware. [08:52] D3lahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Client Quit [08:56] psYcker (~psYcker@201.165.131.204) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:56] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [08:57] /w 7 [08:58] I'm listening to Simple Minds - See the Lights love this song [08:58] i like simple minds [09:01] |Slacker| (~cris@189.64.253.71) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPqwcEbBkXU [09:02] That's my nick sake, Arirang [09:02] heh [09:02] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:02] It's the most beloved song in Korea, both the north and the south [09:03] Axius (~hi@92.82.68.72) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Axius (~hi@92.82.68.72) left irc: Client Quit [09:09] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:09] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [09:12] well, slackware looks awesome with fbcondecor working and my boot up audio hack [09:13] not really a hack though. just load alsa early [09:14] 2.2MB/s kernel.org downloads [09:14] Action: Delahunt rides the fiber [09:15] you can get that on cable [09:15] didn't say you couldn't [09:15] Action: Delahunt is in Japan though, fwiw [09:15] i know that [09:15] Yeah, was gonna say, that's pretty good speed considering his location [09:15] i'm just giving you a hard time [09:15] Action: Delahunt gives wario a soft time [09:16] Action: Delahunt just has to be different [09:16] man i wish there was a way to script make oldconfig [09:16] hey guys, after recent -current upgrade, compositing won't re-enable, and the nvidia driver won't reinstall (even tho the current one is working without comp) anyone aware of possible changes that could be causing this ? [09:16] hey hey, Delahunt i'm not your wife. ;D [09:16] like "hey if M is an option, go with that, otherwise go with the default" [09:16] Action: Delahunt stabs wario [09:17] phrag: I just upgraded a 64bit box to -current and re-installed the NVIDIA driver woithout issues [09:17] phrag: using the nvidia slackbuilds? [09:17] no, installer [09:17] Did you forget to also up the kernel phrag? [09:17] I also used the .run file I downloaded from nvidia.com [09:18] yeah, that sounds like the issue, because nvidia will fail if the kernel is upgraded. [09:18] hmm, i'm running 2.6.33.2 (rebuild) [09:19] should i be upgrading kernel to something else? [09:19] what nvidia version? [09:19] kernel 7.8.42 [09:19] i tried 195.36.15 and 195.36.24 [09:20] nvision (~nvision@g229052059.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:20] okay. that's good [09:20] nvidia: version magic '2.6.33.2 SMP mod_unload ' should be '2.6.33.2-jb SMP [09:20] is the nvidia error log [09:20] phrag: kernel fuckup [09:20] i also just updated mine to -current 32 bit and it's working after removing and reinstalling the nvidia driver [09:20] alienBOB: suggested course of action? [09:21] Your kernel sources advertize a different kernel version than the kernel itself [09:21] phrag: learn and be good [09:21] should i be re-installing the kernel modules then [09:21] phrag: make modules_install [09:21] from the correct source [09:22] yeh, was wondering what caused it though [09:22] been running this kernel for awhile [09:22] thanks for help guys =) [09:22] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:23] no prob. remember you can blacklist kernels in /etc/slackpkg/blacklist, if you're using slackpkg [09:24] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:25] yeh got that covered =) [09:25] Axtroz (~axtroz@77.78.15.8) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:26] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:27] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:24] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.40.19) joined ##slackware. [11:26] conky is complaining that it doesnt find NVCtrlLib.h - any pointers where i could obtain those nvidia headers? [11:27] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.6.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:27] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [11:28] lowkyalur: have nvidia hardware? [11:28] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:28] adrien: sure, and i would like to make conky get the gpu temperature [11:29] i also have the nvidia-driver and nvidia-kernel packages from SBo [11:32] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:33] lowkyalur: you need nvsomething [11:33] hmmm [11:33] nvclock [11:33] not sure it's going to work though [11:34] me neither, but that's life [11:36] which card? [11:36] mogunus (~marco@173-9-7-10-New-England.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] gts250 [11:37] I think nvclock won't work [11:38] not sure [11:38] it displays something [11:39] lmao, GPU temperature -392C [11:39] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:39] kk, so this won't get me anywhere [11:44] i think i just have to get the source code from nvidia and i'll be fine [11:45] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:47] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [11:48] lowkyalur can brag about having the coolest video card ever! [11:48] alienBOB, ping [11:48] what ? [11:48] rob0: hell yeah! [11:48] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] -392 C is like you telling the squrt(-2) [11:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-99-161.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:49] that temperature does not exists. [11:49] Just tell what you want shyko - if you ping me and then leave I won't care and others can't try and help [11:49] linuxexpert are you good with linux? [11:49] ya [11:49] LinuxExpert: aw cmon, who cares about physics? [11:49] I have a problem think you can fix it? [11:49] heya,folks [11:50] of course [11:50] alienBOB: cryptsetup-1.1.0-i486-1.txz is missing /sbin/cryptsetup? [11:50] alienBOB: and sorry for leaving [11:50] okay well I did something and I don't know what and now my fluxbox looks ugly: http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7096/fluxoddity.png [11:50] I don't like the double spacing and the large window decorations [11:50] how do I fix it? [11:51] shyko: its in /usr/sbin/ its a bug that'll get fixed soon [11:51] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:51] rc.S expects it to be in /sbin [11:51] you can ln -s it [11:51] sahk0: yeap [11:51] raela needs a FluxboxExpert, not a LinuxExpert [11:52] that's it [11:52] which it is anyways....to *.static or whatever [11:52] rob0: but he said he's good with linux! :P [11:52] :) [11:52] shyko: yeah its been reported earlier [11:52] sahk0: fine [11:52] shyko: there is a new cryptsetup package waiting, it has not yet been released [11:53] lowkyalur (~low@dslb-088-071-176-095.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: let's see if the bugger works [11:53] rahul__ (~rahul@123.236.187.142) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:53] alienBOB: it's ok, already reported :) [11:54] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] the ~/fluxbox/ folder have some configuration files. Read the man pages you will be able to find a default configuration too. [11:55] no I tried removing .fluxbox and the problem was still there [11:55] * ~/.fulxbox/ [11:55] So far I have been building vlc-1.1.0 pre-releases in private. Anyone feel like I should upload 1.1.0.pre3 to see how it differes from 1.0.6? [11:57] here is how I want it to look - notice the spacing http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8247/goodflux.png [11:57] graffz (~graffz@unaffiliated/graffz) joined ##slackware. [11:58] were there exploits in the wild for the recent code injection Opera patched? [11:58] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:58] alienBOB, have you considered doing koffice 2.2 packages to go along with kde4.4 ? [11:58] LinuxExpert: so what else can I do since that's not it [11:59] Grifulkin (Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:59] raela: actually what change you did ? is that local to the fluxbox configurations ? [12:00] (hi humans) [12:00] LinuxExpert: no I don't know what change I did, that's the problem. I turned it on, changed 3 unrelated files (and have tried rolling those back), perhaps clicked something, then turned it off. next time I turned it on, I got the ugly thing [12:00] no it's local to the fluxbox configurations. Try start as another user. [12:00] LinuxExpert: I have two different laptops, both using the same theme (and theme file) [12:00] no I moved .fluxbox and got a new default [12:00] it didn't help [12:01] raela, what were the 3 files? [12:01] MLanden: .zshrc, .Xdefaults, .fluxbox/menu [12:02] may be try deleting ~/fulxbox/*.* ,may be dangours ! [12:02] the settings are stored there no. [12:03] LinuxExpert: I did mv .fluxbox .fluxbox.bak and restarted x - it generated a completely new default config [12:03] shouldn't a linux expert know that? :/ [12:04] raela: what is your font dpi set to? [12:04] raela, maybe some change to xft might occured? [12:05] font is controlled by the theme, not by the local config - both laptops are using the same theme file, where font is *Font: -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-*-* [12:05] changing the font size doesn't change it - it seems to be expecting a larger font than I'm using [12:05] thrice`: yes I am considering that. I already added kdevelop 4.0.0 and kdevplatform 1.0.0 to my x86_64 build of KDE 4.4.3 [12:06] raela: dpi.. not font size [12:06] wario: well where would I change that [12:07] xorg.conf if you use one [12:08] or -dpi 96 xserver argument [12:08] 96 being whatever works best for you [12:08] usually 96 is good [12:08] well I'll try it in a min [12:08] laptop is being difficult [12:09] if you don't have xorg.conf then you can set it in your login manager [12:09] slim, kdm, etc.. [12:09] don't use one [12:09] or .xinitrc iirc [12:09] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.11.155) joined ##slackware. [12:10] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:10] anyway try start some program without a window manager ex : { export $DISPLAY=127.0.0.1/0.0 , kwrite& } like that is still ugly? [12:10] then yes it's not local to the fluxbox [12:11] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [12:12] wario: I have a xorg.conf-vesa, but no xorg.conf [12:12] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:13] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.40.19) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:13] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [12:13] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: "finishing the updates" [12:13] raela: then you aren't using an xorg.conf. [12:13] Hello all!! I have a problem/question -- I'm trying to figure out why /proc/net/wireless is empty - even though I have two cards installed. [12:14] sorry 'export DISPLAY=' not '$' there. [12:14] raela: i'm pretty sure you will want to place it in .xinitrc somewhere then. [12:14] BrokenCog, could be the drivers are not installed/initialized? [12:15] LinuxExpert: the problem is with flux's look though... [12:15] they are -- I can manually configure the card. [12:15] raela: http://scanline.ca/dpi/ [12:15] and connect with it. [12:15] BrokenCog, then try looking at /sys/class/net [12:15] rather than /proc/ [12:16] btw, someone else requested this.. here's the full screenshot http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9094/fullflux.png [12:16] wario: will look at dpi now [12:17] okay -- I have to rewrite rc.inet1 ... to use /sys [12:17] wario: the size of the title bar is not decided by the xserver. it's completely local to the window manager ,here 'fluxbox' [12:18] wario: I don't get why .xinitrc would help it though.. I didn't touch that file. it was fine on wednesday [12:18] raela: xdpyinfo |grep resolution [12:19] allend (~allend@CPE-121-219-21-241.lnse1.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:19] LinuxExpert: I was under the impression she was having trouble with the spacing of the fonts [12:19] wario: 99x99 (this laptop is 100x99, so that doesn't seem like it'd cause an issue) [12:19] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:19] wario: no it's the borders of everything and the spacing in the menu [12:19] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.27.181) joined ##slackware. [12:19] raela: i see. well i always set mine to 96 though 99 is pretty close [12:20] raela: okay.. [12:21] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:21] raela, what's the make of the laptop? [12:21] okay.. best way to explain, maybe.. compare these two: http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9094/fullflux.png http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6665/nfluxfull.png [12:21] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.11.155) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:22] they are both using the exact same Artwiz style file [12:22] see the fluxbox style guide just google for it. [12:22] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [12:22] alisonken1home: how can I renable the /proc tree ? [12:22] MLanden: toshiba satellite m60 [12:22] and window decorations when we talk about windows GDI [12:22] kinda [12:22] LinuxExpert: I used scp to transfer the Artiz file from the good laptop to the bad one, didn't work [12:22] office (~office@chello087206085058.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:23] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-254-194.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:23] BrokenCog, that's a driver issue - it's the driver that creates the /proc entries. You would have to talk to the guys that wrote the driver [12:23] Pumpkins1979 (~asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: Quit: Saindo [12:24] raela, ok...nvida gforce go 6600 [12:24] MLanden: no it's an intel [12:25] intel mobile 915gm/gms/910gml [12:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-99-161.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:26] raela, ok...intel gma....which driver are you using? [12:26] MLanden: intel [12:26] Sonic (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:27] err i810, sorry [12:27] you're sure? lspci | grep -i vga [12:27] ...wait.. lemme read this more, ugh [12:27] raela: what is the value for window.title.height: [12:27] ? [12:28] eviljames: I just pulled it from there [12:28] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:28] did you try fixing our DPI ? [12:28] add "Xft.dpi: 96" to ~/.Xresources or so [12:29] LinuxExpert: they aren't set anywhere in the theme [12:29] thrice`: would the dpi make a difference? since both laptops are nearly the same.. [12:29] it may, sure [12:30] different screen sizes / video cards ? [12:30] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [12:30] they're both 17" running at 1440x900. vid cards are different, but, this is a change that happened overnight [12:30] magic! [12:31] I checked my command history the next morning and only saw edits to .Xdefaults .zshrc and .fluxbox/menu.. so I'm thinking I had to have clicked something [12:31] theme.cfg ? [12:31] nothing like that exists. [12:31] LinuxExpert: /usr/share/fluxbox/styles/Artwiz [12:32] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [12:32] i'd try it, your current resolution is strange [12:33] thrice`: widescreen laptops.. resolution is perfectly fine. I'll try the dpi though [12:33] yeah, 1440x900 is pretty normal I think [12:33] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:34] I meant the 99dpi font setting [12:34] ah [12:34] LugarSivi (LugarSivi@89-201-211-168.dsl.optinet.hr) left ##slackware ("No matter how dark the night, somehow the Sun rises once again"). [12:34] mm, xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources might reload it [12:35] raela: go down to 96 [12:35] might atleast loose the weird menu spaces [12:35] window.title.height: 16 in my computer. :~ [12:36] I don't know ,I think you may ask this from #fluxbox [12:36] thrice`: added the line, merged, didn't change, restarted X, didn't change [12:36] LinuxExpert: yeah well #fluxbox didn't know either. you're the linux expert you know [12:37] xdpyinfo |grep resolution shows 96x96 now ? [12:37] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:37] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:37] thrice`: no it still shows 99x99 [12:37] mhhm [12:38] make sure you don't have two xft dpi lines [12:38] what did you add to ~/.Xdefaults ? [12:38] I put Xft.dpi: 96.0. tried .Xdefaults first, realized it didn't go there, then tried .Xresources. didn't work with either [12:38] wario: I don't [12:39] try just "96" [12:40] still 99x99 [12:40] It so seems that time to read the log. [12:41] why 96x96 is failing ? [12:41] raela: did you add it in .Xdefaults like this? Xft*dpi: 96 [12:41] raela: you type startx to begin your xsession? [12:41] sahk0: I used a ., as per instructions on the website wario provided [12:41] wario: indeed I do [12:42] try my suggestion anyway [12:42] gtg take care [12:42] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:42] you know what.. guys, I'm really grateful for all of the help, but obviously something isn't quite right and it's not an obvious fix. it's not hurting anything other than my sanity, so it's fine to remain how it is [12:42] may be /var/log/Xorg.0.log will help us. [12:42] I don't wanna waste more of you all's time [12:43] Sanity is for the weak. [12:44] tried *, no go, no new EE on xorg.log.whatever [12:44] there is Failed to set tiling on front buffer: rejected by kernel [12:44] but googling didn't see to indicate that as related [12:44] raela: you can try startx -dpi 96 [12:45] startx -- -dpi 96 [12:45] did that still 99x99 [12:45] look maybe my laptop really wants to be 99x99 [12:45] Are you using an xorg.conf file? [12:45] okay startx -- -dpi 96 finally switched it [12:46] it didn't fix the issue [12:46] yeah. raela i don't think that site was quite up to date. I think it's the * [12:46] eviljames: no I'm not [12:46] raela: so xdpyinfo still returns 99x99 or some shit doesn't display correctly? Do you have all the fonts installed? [12:46] eviljames: that was never the issue [12:46] ever [12:46] first of all how you configure your xorg.conf xconf? [12:46] look I can deal OKAY [12:47] LinuxExpert: there IS NO xorg.conf [12:47] or you can fix it [12:47] raela: you've got a room with an expert in it and people _want_ to help instead of flame you. might as well roll with it :P [12:47] wait.. we can flame he? [12:47] I just sat down and threw in my $0.02 - no clue what the problem is. [12:47] eviljames: but we've gotten so far away from the issue that anyone looking in doesn't know what the problem is! [12:47] see? [12:47] hahah [12:47] what problem ? [12:47] you know what, maybe I'll bring the damn laptop to SELF [12:47] make trhodes fix it [12:48] what problem ? [12:48] so he can have me there yelling at him IRL :P [12:48] raela: Problem #1: Fluxbox, use kde and it'll be bettar. [12:48] http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9094/fullflux.png http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6665/nfluxfull.png [12:48] I want the spacing to be like nfluxfull, not fluxfull [12:48] eviljames is true evil fluxbox is good. :P [12:48] THAT is the problem [12:48] ok [12:49] Action: rob0 is the problem (so I've been told) [12:49] what spacing? [12:49] window decoration, taskbar, menus [12:49] rob0: don't listen to your exes. It was never you, it was always them. [12:49] raela: that is not a bug.. it's a feature [12:49] easier viewing [12:49] wario: well it's an f'ing feature that changed overnight and drove me nuts [12:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-99-161.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] ;) [12:50] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:50] wtf [12:50] raela: do you happen to have xfce still installed? [12:50] wario: as I told him already he can try this without a window manager. [12:50] anyway [12:50] nfluxfull is a theme for flux, right? [12:51] raela: why not diff the theme.cfg files and look for values like "border" "padding" and the like? [12:51] now finally eviljames says something that makes sense [12:51] eviljames: he already told that there is no window.title.height =16 as mine [12:52] eviljames: NO! now you're going to have to explain to raela how to diff! [12:52] anyway try to enter it manually ,but may be danger [12:52] Action: adrien ducks /o\ [12:52] eviljames: j/k :) [12:52] And that's what raela was asking for? Greater title height? [12:52] Doesn't sound like it to me. [12:52] raela: diff file1 file2 [both must be text files] that's how you diff [12:52] :P [12:52] no, the text in the menu is double-spaced [12:53] thrice`: wow, what a subtle thing - I'd never have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. [12:53] bah just made a phonecall [12:53] raela: what i was going to say is that i've actually used the xfce-settings dialog from a terminal in fluxbox before when I had some ui issues. may not be the most orthadox solution, but if it works.. who cares. [12:53] look.. I scp'd the theme from one laptop to the other [12:53] they're using the SAME EXACT THEME [12:54] wario: I can deal with it.. it just upsets my ocpd! [12:54] thrice`: and looking at it, I don't see anything double spaced on either? [12:54] but *shrug* if raela's happy, I'm happy. [12:54] allend (~allend@CPE-121-219-21-241.lnse1.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:54] raela: may be the second laptop is rejecting some settings,therefore you have to explicitly give it , try manually entering those lines. [12:54] raela: go to SELF. I won't be able to make it this year, but I tells ya soon I'm going to get hammered with Alan_Hicks. [12:55] but the problem I can't believe. [12:55] allend (~allend@CPE-121-219-21-241.lnse1.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:55] eviljames: I might make it next year ;p [12:55] adrien: dude, you have motivated me to hit up SELF 2011 :P [12:55] what is the date this year? [12:55] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:56] eviljames: I'm planning on bringing the good laptop to SELF and seeing if someone can figure out some other odd issue [12:56] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [12:56] but I am NOT getting into that :P [12:56] LinuxExpert: well the other laptop is a pain in the ass [12:56] raela: give me ssh + root access, I'll solve all the problems with it. [12:56] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:56] raela: add me to /etc/sudoers as a NOPASSWD [12:56] I bet if I brought the laptops to SELF and went around asking for help, I'd get pleeeeeeenty of help :P [12:56] eviljames: ^^ [12:56] eviljames: ip is 127.0.0.1 user is hornychick19 password is wetpanties [12:56] eviljames: also, use /etc/suauth ;-) [12:57] When Polly's in trouble I am not slow; so it's hip, hip hip! And AWAY I go. [12:57] selimozbas (~selim@95.9.41.194) joined ##slackware. [12:57] stokachu (~user@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] Polly wanna cracker? [12:57] mancha: In most cases I'd say great minds think alike... but here "Fools seldom differ" comes to mind. [12:57] are there any lisp users here (sbcl) and do you just run the binary? [12:58] brb taking dogs out [12:58] eviljames: nice [12:58] raela: is it true you're using ubuntu? [12:58] FALSE [12:58] It is Xubuntu [12:58] bah, same -_- [12:59] yeah. Xubuntu is more 1337 [12:59] allend (~allend@CPE-121-219-21-241.lnse1.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [12:59] straterra: If I say it while wandering around meatspace, I'll almost always combine the two: "Well, great minds think alike and fools seldom differ." [12:59] nice [12:59] 5 points for you [13:00] straterra: most people don't kow if I've complimented them or insulted us both. Typically depends on their self-esteem or level of narcissism [13:01] rahul__ (~rahul@123.236.187.142) joined ##slackware. [13:01] hi every1 [13:01] you cripple what they have come to know about life and leave them wide open for suggestive manipulation.. i like it. [13:02] how do i upgrade from slack13x64 to slack64-current? [13:03] frank__ (~be33a97c@gateway/web/freenode/x-fhasnsbwocxtedxr) joined ##slackware. [13:03] If you have to ask... [13:03] No, I think theres a README on the mirrors for current [13:03] CAREFULLY read the Changelog.TXT, point slackpkg to a 64-current mirror, and remember that -current may have issues, so you may have to be a tester [13:04] rahul__: Also read UPGRADE.txt [13:04] there isn't an upgrade.txt in current [13:04] for -64 [13:04] Hello guys, I'm strating at slackware and I'm looking for blogs aobut this OS where I could find news, information, How to's and Tutos. Any recomendation please? [13:04] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:04] stokachu: ahh. [13:04] rahul__: does your hard drive show to the OS as /dev/hda or /dev/sda ? [13:04] frank__: yes..google [13:04] frank__: look in /topic [13:04] and the slackbook and slackwiki [13:04] you'll have to base your upgrade info off changelog [13:04] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current/ cannot find upgrade or readme [13:04] straterra: evil bastard, send them to /topic before the mighty GOOG [13:05] i have slack installed on sda [13:05] rahul__: ChangeLog.txt is your first bet to see what has been added/upgraded/rebuilt/removed [13:05] straterra: obvious answer -.-" I've already searched on google :S [13:05] eviljames: If it were up to me, I'd sit them in a chair with a hole cut out of it [13:05] also CURRENT.WARNING and CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [13:05] straterra: James Bond style? [13:05] ala, Casino Royale [13:05] Yes [13:05] selimozbas (~selim@95.9.41.194) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:05] hahahah [13:05] lol [13:05] straterra: That's not the most productive way to expand a community you know. [13:05] In fact, I'd say it is amongst the least productive ways! [13:05] It sure weeds out the posers [13:05] great, i want to upgrade the entire system, not selectively [13:06] rahul__: why are you upgrading [13:06] i need k10temp [13:06] rahul__: Right, well, you'll need to know some things about your system. Like what packages were removed, and why. This is not automated for a reason. It is up to you to know and understand your system. [13:06] rahul__, the other option is get a 64-current.iso and insatll from that [13:06] eviljames: You're right. Being such an asshole is not the best way to expand a comunity. ;-) Thanks for notice it. [13:07] frank__: hahah straterra's assholeness is a well documented bug. But he keeps labelling it WONTFIX [13:07] ;) [13:07] And..slackbook/wiki are available from google..so yeah [13:07] I didn't lie [13:08] No, but you wasted keystrokes and untold amount of bandwidth [13:08] BYTES! [13:08] "check /t" > "go on google and search" [13:08] i like big butts, and i cannot lie [13:08] nvision (~nvision@g229052059.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:08] wow, i just read the changes_hints .txt [13:08] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-125-18.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:08] all i need was to add myself to lp group for hp officejet scanning :\ [13:09] I take it slackbook is still we will get it done when it's done [13:09] check with Alan_Hicks [13:09] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [13:09] panzer: All things in Slackware are released "When they are ready" [13:09] and tell him alison suggested you ask him [13:09] I'm reading "slackware Essentials" but it doesn't seems to be a good reference at this point [13:09] eviljames: of course [13:10] frank__: http://slackbook.org [13:10] written by Alan_Hicks [13:10] eviljames: Thanks =D [13:10] i think its funny that 2 of the guys work for red hat now [13:10] who wrote slackbook [13:11] who actually work on the installer for Fedora/RHEL [13:11] yeah, lets not diss slackbook's original authors [13:11] :D [13:11] There's any free $$ red hat version being suported? [13:11] we all like alan hicks but go easy [13:12] they are good guys [13:12] i meant " written by Alan_Hicks" [13:12] ah [13:12] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:12] frank__: centos is community based [13:13] sawfish++ [13:13] mancha: are any of the other writers present? [13:13] irrelevant [13:14] I'm not saying that it is, it was a general question. [13:14] what's that thing on gorbachev's forehead? [13:14] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:14] [13:14] mancha: mark of the beast [13:14] xD [13:15] rahul__ (~rahul@123.236.187.142) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:15] mancha, map of georgia? [13:15] that could be, a tribute to the atlanta olympics? [13:16] mancha: georgia, russia [13:17] yes, i knew you meant georgia (ex ussr) [13:18] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:19] frank__: In light of what mancha brings up, s/written/maintained/ to my statement above [13:19] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] nvision (~nvision@g229052059.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:19] frank, core principles change slowly if at all on linux, also slackware-specific admin tools haven't changed much over the recent years. all this to say, i bet the last slackbook release is still quite useful [13:19] juan--d-1-b (~Juan@186.28.15.96) joined ##slackware. [13:20] then you haven't looked at it lately ;) [13:20] thrice, oops, that obsolete? [13:20] I dindn't get what you said. English is not my native lenguage plus "new term on slackware" make a ocassional total confussion to me. Sometimes :P [13:20] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:20] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [13:21] lee_ (~lee__@wsip-24-249-195-93.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@186.28.15.96) left irc: Changing host [13:21] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [13:21] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] frank, never mind, thrice is suggesting the opposite of what i was saying. [13:21] wow .. don't think I've ever seen this many people in here at once [13:22] lee_, may day...:P [13:22] ah, totally makes sense ;-) [13:22] mancha: oh, ok. [13:22] anyone running amarok with libimobiledevice support? [13:22] not having read the book myself, i am not equiped to make these comments. [13:23] or even gtk-pod with an iphone [13:23] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] stokachu: I've been playing with it lately, yeah. [13:23] nvision (~nvision@g229052059.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:23] tell me someone knows a safe method for emptying sendmail's queue .. my is constipated .. [13:23] eviljames: amarok or gtkpod [13:24] delete the queue files [13:24] amarok out of the box doesn't support libgpod [13:24] stokachu: iPod touch + amarok - managed to get it synced twice [13:24] Yes it does. [13:24] i dont see amarok linked to libgpod [13:24] /var/spool/mqueue or summitz [13:24] stokachu: It supports libgpod and the imobiledevice stuff. Look in the source, it's there (I was digging around because iPod touch support has a bug) [13:24] mancha: there is indices that need to be cleared as well? [13:24] eviljames: did you have to recompile with those options? [13:25] nvision (~nvision@g229052059.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:25] lee, just delete all the files in that dir and your queue is gone [13:25] files include data and control [13:25] or just re-install the pkg after building libgpod [13:25] stokachu: No, but even recompiling isn't so bad. If you use the sources from your -current mirror you can build out the latest and/or a git tree of amarok [13:26] stokachu: Which should have a few recent fixes to iPod support covered. [13:26] ipod touch support is very differnet form the old ipod (nano, classic) support, right? [13:26] eviljames: ok im going to try to rebuild on 13.0 [13:26] mancha: yea [13:27] freelibrary (~notRoot@85.183.133.34) joined ##slackware. [13:27] stokachu: Do you have the 13.0 source tree? Try grabbing the 2.3.0 sources, put them into source/kde/src, then go to source/kde/amarok and change VERSION in local.options to what it should be. [13:28] eviljames: yea sure do; ok ill do that [13:28] stokachu: but you must have imobiledevice etc installed first. [13:28] ouch .. "bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long [13:28] " [13:29] eviljames: yea ive got that and libgpod installed [13:29] stokachu: cool, should be good. Like I say, iPod touch / iPhone support *definitely* works - but it can be finnicky. :P [13:29] eviljames: haha ok ill give it a shot i just want to be done with itunes [13:30] itunes is malware, agreed. [13:30] mancha: got a solution for that? ("Argument list too long") [13:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-99-161.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:30] shorten the argument list [13:30] stokachu: Yeah, I had Windows in vbox + iTunes forever because of this PITA ipod touch. [13:30] eviljames: lol same here [13:30] yeah .. was hoping for something else .. :) [13:31] for i in `ls /some/files/` ; do rm ${i} ; done [13:31] xsamurai (~munki@pool-71-165-140-41.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] or find and xargs [13:31] lee, you can use find [13:31] rm limits the arg list and you seem to have too many files [13:32] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:32] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.52.168) joined ##slackware. [13:32] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] i had forgotten about this issue, i patched my coreutils long ago [13:34] it is complex becuase the limiing factor comes fromt he kernel [13:34] how do you make right alt act like left alt (meta key) [13:35] v4nelle (~van@79.107.228.99) joined ##slackware. [13:35] xkeymap ? [13:40] *modmap [13:40] yeah, that [13:41] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [13:41] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] SlackerD (~kvirc@pool-72-82-100-37.nrflva.btas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] Hello there! [13:43] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:44] davi` (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:45] hello [13:45] heya,SlackerD [13:45] ok, i just looked through my notes. i actually have a kernel patch not a coreutil patch. [13:46] ok [13:46] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [13:48] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: :wq [13:48] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:49] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:50] heh, i did it again, every time i look up my old notes i spend 30 minutes editing the text, fixing typos, improving style :) [13:51] eviljames: i'd have to upgrade kdelibs to 4.3.0 and lord knows what else :( [13:53] argh, i have linux-with-two-alt-keys included in keymap but it still treats left alt as laltgr [13:53] why it hatin, bro [13:54] for some reason C-- is C-_ too [13:54] pizzledizzle: "Laltgr" would be "LEFT Alt Grey", which is a mythical key that nobody has ever seen. alt GREY is RIGHT Alt. [13:55] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:55] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:56] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Offer only valid on April 31. [13:57] stokachu: you could always move your system to -current and file bugs. alienBOB has kde 4.4.2 available. [13:59] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:00] eviljames: yea i need to set aside a couple of hours to go through an upgrade [14:00] 4.4.3 in two days [14:00] MLanden_ (~MLanden@pool-207-68-59-141.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [14:01] rob0: really ?I'll hurry to the store now then [14:02] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:02] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:02] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:03] MLanden_ (~MLanden@pool-207-68-59-141.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:04] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Client Quit [14:04] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-59-141.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] alienBOB: nice [14:09] alienBOB: any chance of a 4.4 for 13.0 from you ? [14:09] Building 32-bit packages now (64-bit is done and ready) but waiting for their release until KDE releases their sources to the public [14:10] adaptr: was not planning on that adaptr - building a version for -current takes several days of compilation [14:10] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:10] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:10] You will have to wait for Slackware 13.1 (my packages will apply to that release) or upgrade to -current [14:11] alienBOB: no biggie, just wondering, people tend to un-encourage me to move to -current unless I have a really pressing need, and I don't, I value stability over bleed [14:11] Yes in that case, remain where you are. You can use vbatts' KDE 4.3.1 packages then [14:11] Action: rob0 presses adaptr's need [14:12] eww [14:12] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] we agreed you would not try that in public again, rob0 [14:13] alienBOB: yes, I have those installed - slackpkg upgrade keeps telling me to upgrade to 4.2.4 :) [14:14] fredoslack (~fredoslac@80.10.46.65) joined ##slackware. [14:14] fredoslack (~fredoslac@80.10.46.65) left irc: Client Quit [14:14] Add those packages to /etc/slackpkg/blacklist then adaptr [14:15] thank-you once more, will do [14:15] the old ones, or the new ones ? [14:15] or justth epackages, no version [14:15] right [14:15] yup [14:15] so kdelibs without version [14:16] Action: adaptr fires up emacs' vi mode [14:17] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [14:18] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:18] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [14:19] ah great - slackpkg blacklist kde* works like a charm [14:20] cool [14:21] AltR for AltGr [14:21] :( [14:22] alienBOB, thanks re: koffice :> I thought 2.1 kinda..mm, stunk :) [14:22] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. [14:22] The 2.2 will take another month to release though... [14:23] yeah, they are taking their time [14:24] privet Donald [14:24] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] sorry ) [14:24] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-426415.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:25] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:28] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:28] guys why my amsn icons looks like these? http://imagebin.ca/view/7rO-hM.html [14:28] i i have amsn 0.8.93 [14:32] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. 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[14:42] JIOCb: again please, this time iin english [14:44] soery, I forgot change the channel )) in irssi client 3 window on screen [14:44] what language was that JIOCb ? Alien? [14:44] looooooool [14:45] that is called machine code. [14:45] no ))) [14:45] icelandic [14:45] not you again LinuxExpert [14:45] this is deer - on russian [14:47] time to sleep. night. [14:47] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [14:48] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-59-141.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.21.172) joined ##slackware. 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[14:57] us.map [14:57] i also made a new keymap only changing linux-two-alt-keys and loadkeys'd that but alt is still not recognized as a meta key [14:58] dumpkeys shows that ralt is altgr [14:58] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:01] there's a program you can run that will dump the keypress so you can verify what codes are seen when a key is pressed, might verify that as well [15:02] xev [15:02] Nick change: surround1r -> surrounder [15:03] frank__ (~be33a97c@gateway/web/freenode/x-fhasnsbwocxtedxr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:05] DBAmethyst (~panzer@69-29-105-1.stat.centurytel.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:06] stokachu (~user@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) [15:09] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:09] jfsantos (~jfsantos@unaffiliated/jfsantos) joined ##slackware. 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[15:47] v4nelle, did the amsn icon match what's in the package? [15:48] what did you mena?sorry about my english :) [15:48] mean* [15:48] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [15:51] v4nelle, if you look in /var/log/packages/ there should be the amsn package...if you type 'less /var/log/packages/amsn*'..you can see which file amsn is using for the icon [15:54] anyone an idea what might be the problem here: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/24007/kde-4-1-mounting-luks-devices.html [15:54] having the same issue on 4.4 [15:54] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-5-77.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:57] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:59] Axius (~hi@109.97.57.151) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:59] hmmm [15:59] Is there anything about that in the KDE wiki? [16:00] Are you still there, pprkut? [16:00] haven't found anything yet [16:00] ah [16:01] it looks like it would be working in other distros. Some posts/bugs hint at policykit, but not definitely [16:01] I simply fail to generate any sort of error that would push me further :( [16:01] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:03] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-220-190.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ [16:05] Try searching that forum, pprkut. [16:05] They may be able to help you out if you have a problem. [16:07] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-12-1-raid-1-lvm-cant-boot-with-or-without-encrypted-filesystem-643068/ [16:07] That link may help you out, pprkut. [16:08] no, not really. I'm specifically looking for automounting through kde. Mounting it manually works fine [16:08] ah [16:08] ok [16:09] Have you tried using HAL? [16:09] HAL may work for this problem. [16:10] I'm not 100% sure about that, however, as I have never worked with a luks device. [16:10] actually, hal's the source of the problem....I think [16:10] Is it a HAL error? [16:10] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Post up the error on a image hosting site, or use pastebin to put up the verbose stuff. [16:11] That would help me and the other people on the channel here. [16:11] you haven't read what I wrote above, have you? I do not have an error! That's my issue [16:11] ah [16:12] You don't have an error. [16:12] hmmm [16:12] Try running dolphin in the command line. [16:13] See if an error comes up about mounting the device. [16:13] I wouldn't be here asking if it were that easy :P [16:13] So you did use the command line? [16:13] yes [16:13] strange [16:14] alienBOB, are you there? [16:14] here, I mean [16:14] heh [16:15] He would know more about this problem, as he has worked with Slackware for several years. [16:15] of course, pprkut hasn't [16:15] :P [16:15] Or KDE, for that matter. [16:15] I didn't say that. [16:16] I know :) [16:16] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php [16:17] ok [16:19] OceanBlue (1000@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust11.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:20] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-59-141.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:21] roliveira (1000@a89-152-217-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:21] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-59-141.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] OceanBlue (1000@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust11.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:24] ok, trying again a bit more precise: Mounting LUKS volume with dolphin, anyone did that successfully? [16:26] graffz (~graffz@unaffiliated/graffz) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:28] pprkut: a fully encrypted usb device? [16:29] rworkman, are you about? I don't think the recent dbus init script change is correct [16:29] How recent thrice` ? [16:29] the "/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system 1> /dev/null && touch $LOCKFILE" [16:29] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:30] the touch fails, because /var/lock/subsys directory does not exist [16:30] Yes, but you are behind the times thrice` [16:30] Look at latest ChangeLog [16:30] oops, sorry :> [16:30] alienBOB: no, 3 out of 5 partitions are luks, others are unencrypted. dolphin decrypts the volume fine, it fails at mounting it [16:31] I just did yesterdays updates [16:31] This was pushed very recently thrice` [16:31] yep, I see that now; ignore me [16:31] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [16:31] /ignore thrice` [16:32] pprkut: I can remeber having successfully mounted a LUKS container file before. But I think that was in KDE 4.2 or 4.3 [16:32] thrice`: no problem [16:32] It's an age thing [16:33] I'm only 25 :> [16:33] Exactly. The older the wiser [16:33] lol [16:33] alienBOB: I suppose so. Hints I found a bugs.kde.org suggest that they moved to some sort of policykit method in 4.3 [16:34] pprkut: are you on my polkit-enabled KDE 4.4.2? [16:34] yes [16:34] Hm [16:34] Zeo (~Zod@vc-41-11-104-227.umts.vodacom.co.za) joined ##slackware. [16:34] I have no machine to test with at the moment. One is compiling VLC the other KDE... can't reboot wither [16:34] agentc0re (~agentc0re@174-23-161-15.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] agentc0re (~agentc0re@174-23-161-15.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Changing host [16:34] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [16:35] And this is Slackware 10.0 I am typing on [16:35] they hint at org.freedesktop.hal.storage.crypto-setup-removable , but I cannot find a reference for that for polkit [16:35] You can stop the KDE compile, it takes a sane amount of time. ;) [16:35] and it's nothing more but a guess as well, since I get no error whatsoever [16:36] alienBOB: it's not a serious issue, just something that bugs me :) [16:36] thanks for the tip,AlienBOB..overlooked that VLC upgraded to 1.0.6 during the week...just finished compiling..:) [16:37] MLanden: compiling 1.1.0.pre3 here [16:38] I also revived the mozilla plugin, I realized I have never created an actually working one [16:38] alienBOB: blu-ray implemented in 1.1.0? [16:39] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-19-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [16:39] alienBOB: will we see a phonon-vlc at some point as well? (being curious) :) [16:39] I think blu-ray playback should work [16:39] the mozilla guys silently broke npplugin's API in 3.7 iirc, one of the vlc was really pissed ^^ [16:39] But as I do not own a blu-ray drive I can not test [16:39] neither I [16:40] I added the version of x264 that can encode blu-ray video at least, if that is reassurance:-) [16:40] alienBOB: ping me if you need a test for that: I don't have the hardware but a friend of mine does [16:41] adrien: watch my repository's rss feed [16:41] playing a bluray on linux is a PITA and most certainly involves having to decrypt the disk on a windows machine. We are lightyears away from "playing out of the drive" [16:42] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [16:44] pprkut: s/ on linux// ;-) [16:44] it's a pita on windows too [16:44] alienBOB: okay, will do [16:45] I wouldn't know. I barely touch windows systems [16:46] well my friend with the blu-ray hardware bought a blu-ray and still haven't managed to play it on windows... [16:46] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:47] roliveira (1000@a89-152-217-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) left ##slackware. [16:47] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:48] that's why I stick to dvd for now. Enough troubles there to deal with [16:50] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:50] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-anjwxttgifxiomsy) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:51] mtkoan_ (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-rbatmysdrrfxqtwv) joined ##slackware. [16:51] definitely: after having bought the blu-ray, he phoned me and the second he said "blu-ray", I knew it wasn't going to work [16:52] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:52] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:55] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:56] agris (~blondais@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [16:56] please, provide with link of linux distributions history [16:56] i have to prove someone that suse is not slack ;) [16:56] I'll get you a link [16:57] that would be great [16:57] However, SuSE was derived from Slackware [16:57] Action: jkwood waits for a Tweet from Pat V saying "SUSE is not Slackware." [16:57] http://futurist.se/gldt/gldt1004.png [16:57] yes i know, so it is my puprose to say, that even it's derivative, it still not a slack [16:57] thanks [16:58] jkwood: I'll tweet it instead [16:58] Then I can put it in the Wikipedia page. [16:58] slink (copy@node-43.blackcore.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:58] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [17:00] I twat it [17:00] lol [17:00] alienBOB: :) [17:00] g, guys, i'm probably lame, but for two/three months i had to work with debian and freebsd... what i can say.... maybe there's something more easier to do into those, but .... there still something missing [17:00] forgive me, i'm drunk :) [17:01] Lay off the sauce, agris! :P [17:01] BP{k}: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWSTnTM4lQM [17:01] Breaking your system horribly using the package manager is far easier in Debian than Slackware. [17:01] Indeed, jkwood. :) [17:02] O... they bleeped out the good parts! [17:02] alienBOB, you have to do `xdg-mime install ....` [17:02] Apt is horrible. [17:02] slackerD: if i had a chance, i'd better and faster would done those all things in slack, that's for sure [17:02] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-222-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] but fbsd has some issue of that zfs :) [17:02] Indeed agris. :) [17:02] Pardon me for interrupting but are there any channels for meeting females? [17:02] you need to supply your own xml file with the pattern of the mime [17:02] lol, Zeo. [17:03] it shows it in xdg-mime --manual [17:03] you don't wanna meet the women who hang around on irc [17:03] alienBOB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS5QMT-JUt4 ? ;) [17:03] but i dunno what pattern a directory would have though [17:03] cause most of them are 35 year old guys living in their mom's basement [17:03] Actually my fortune cookie said I will meet my future wife on the internet [17:03] Indeed, Skywise. [17:04] Skywise: guess kethry was not. :) [17:04] Sad, but true. [17:04] there are no woman on the interwebs [17:04] Yes there are. [17:04] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] I know of some. [17:04] *women [17:04] they work on the porn sites [17:04] no [17:04] But thats physicaly impossible [17:04] Hahahaha yeah [17:04] BP{k}: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3618536/John%20Cooper%20Clarke%20-%20Twat.mp3 for the original song [17:04] Not just that. [17:05] Zeo: try another one [17:05] in the internet everyone is a man - man are man, woman are man and little girls are FBI agents [17:05] Fansub groups [17:05] Maybe the gentoo geeks know something.. brb [17:05] That other video is pretty good BP{k} [17:05] Not across the board. [17:05] There ARE some women on the interwebs. [17:06] That's as far as I'll go with this conversation. [17:06] yeah, who else would be using all that twitter [17:06] try #boobquake [17:06] SlackerD: why so serious? [17:07] who knows, akira42. [17:07] he's hoping to catch one lurking and impress her [17:07] WHY SO SERIOUS?! [17:07] Good evening ladies and gentlemen. [17:07] We are tonight's entertainiment. [17:07] I think there's about 5% - 10% females on this channel, I've seen worse /o\ [17:07] Action: jkwood blinks [17:07] Come on, akira42. [17:08] 5%? [17:08] The internet is serious business. [17:08] adrien: they dont count if they used to be dudes [17:08] lol [17:08] 15 chicks on irc at the same time is hard to believe [17:08] let alone one channel [17:09] one in the hand is worth 15 on the channel [17:09] hm ... are we talking about girls girls or 'girls'? [17:09] but its easy to spot women on irc really [17:09] Evidently Chickentown [17:09] 10%, that'd mean 30, no, I'm wrong: more like 1% to 2%... [17:09] i'll tell you how, they're the only ones to properly use punctuation [17:10] Really? [17:10] they'd be jabbering away on ##salkcware talking on their cell phone with no idea anything was wrong [17:10] Skywis is probably not a woman :) [17:10] Hey I use somewhat proper punctuation and I'm a guy! [17:10] Action: Skywise looks suspiciously at adrien [17:10] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-126.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:10] Skywise: I don't see what you mean. -_- [17:10] Women on IRC usually don't talk anything technical or computer related. [17:10] alienBOB: I think perhaps the game's afoot. [17:11] Except if they are gay I think [17:11] jkwood: are you going to rob a bank [17:11] oh well i suppose thats another possibility [17:11] raela does... [17:11] my wife prefers the php-board chat thingies [17:12] like linuxquestions except about girl junk [17:12] GooseYAr1: It's on my dayminder, but I never get everything on it done anyway. [17:12] shes on there all day [17:12] jkwood: ehehe [17:12] Then, you have girls on IRC and girls on IRC on freenode... [17:12] i don't think men and women can have the same conversation together [17:13] Skywise: yah theres an impedance mismatch [17:13] what would linux be like if linus were a woman? [17:13] its even worse on instant messenger [17:13] alienBOB, dropbox needs nautilus? :-/ [17:13] mancha: linux would never have been so popular, probably [17:13] mancha: nothing would happen because every unix nerd on earth would be writing him love letters [17:13] echelon: nope [17:14] Grab my dropbox-client package and you're good [17:14] one a month the kernel would OOPS for no apparent reason? [17:14] awesome! :) [17:14] hehe [17:14] i think by now (s)he'd of gotten pissed at everyone and take away slackware until we can show proper appreciation [17:15] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.55.114) joined ##slackware. [17:15] uh oh [17:15] Skywise: ahah and every year on the anniversary of linux... [17:15] The troll is back! [17:15] "back"? You guys never left! [17:15] GooseYAr1, oh man we'd all be so busted [17:16] ehehe [17:16] man i hate ldap [17:16] tux would be a lot more fahionable, sporting a prada handbag and somedkny shades... [17:16] 1 day a year the internet would stop because all the techs forgot the anniversary [17:16] im going to hire a minion whose job is just to do menial ldap administration [17:16] lol [17:17] Skywise: ahaha and once a month a huge flame war would break out on lkml [17:17] although i think that might already be happening [17:17] you know how i manage ldap, theres 2 ways i find the easiest [17:17] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.21.172) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:17] one is to dump it and edit it in a text editor and reload [17:17] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [17:17] the other is to use jexplorer which is a foss ldap browser [17:18] have you ever messed with sasl proxy authentication with openldap? [17:18] what an absolute pain in the sack [17:18] if i have to do a lot of changes, a text editor is by far the best [17:18] the docs on how to debug a kernel regressions would start: 1) buy 5 pints of ice cream 2) call your girlfriends over [17:18] yeah, i use that now [17:18] well not by proxy tho [17:19] i have no idea how ldap works, i barely understand sasl [17:19] but i have sasl authenticating vs /etc/passwd and ldap and imap [17:19] i hear ya, its spaghetti [17:19] but i needed to rig up a tool that sets up cyrus imapd instances for some people at the company [17:19] but think of sasl as pam [17:19] lol [17:19] i have the exact same setup [17:20] lol,mancha ... and see what color libnotify uses....if it's fire-red...we're all screwed..:P [17:20] i use it for cyrus so i don't have to create accounts [17:20] Skywise: do you know there is ldapvi? [17:20] Edit your LDAP entries in vi [17:20] no, i didn't, but i'm not a fan of vi [17:20] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:20] i'm still using pico [17:20] everything was working fine but cyrus replication wouldnt work, because its wired up to attempt digest-md5 auth, which I apparently cant do with saslauthd [17:20] matrix (~matrix@static-200-105-182-86.acelerate.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@static-200-105-*.acelerate.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:20] matrix kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: matrix, you can keep your attempted insults (U fagest dont help ME!) - they suck anyway. [17:20] yeah you can [17:20] MLanden, boring red, blue, green would be replaced by cornflower, ivory, and hot fucsia [17:21] ok lemme put my thinking cap back on [17:21] saslauth with ldapdb that is [17:21] i did this a few years ago [17:21] it worked fine with sasldb2 [17:21] but i should be able to untangle what i did [17:21] Sky, isn't nano what pico fans use when they don't want pine? [17:21] one sec lemme check some configs [17:21] lol,mancha.....with flowers for icons....@_@ [17:21] cheers yall [17:21] Skywise: yeah thatd be great to see if you can find them [17:21] ciao [17:21] Zeo (~Zod@vc-41-11-104-227.umts.vodacom.co.za) left irc: Quit: Its way past your bedtime you little bastard! [17:22] mancha, nano is pico on crack [17:22] MLanden heh [17:22] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:22] Skywise: i am hooked on openldap because of that ppolicy overlay thing with gets you squared up with the federales with little to no effort [17:22] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:22] but im too lazy to learn how it works [17:23] every time we write some dopey web application for a client, we either have to code up password complexity crap, or just plug in an little openldap instance and be done with it [17:25] GooseYAr1, are you using cyrus-sasl? [17:26] yah [17:26] and you have ldap enabled? [17:26] dovecot vs cyrus [17:26] discuss [17:26] yah [17:27] v4nelle (~van@79.107.228.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:27] mancha: eh i dont think I'd replace one with the other [17:27] so you're acyrus man, eh? [17:27] cyrus is a giant pain in the ass unless you need all the special capabilities it has [17:27] if i dont absolutely need cyrus, id use dovecot [17:27] I am a huge cyrus fan [17:28] But then, I like sendmail better than postfix too [17:28] didn't gnu have an sasl implementation too? [17:28] eheh [17:28] i really love cyrus [17:28] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:28] i love sendmail, i'm not overly passionate about sals :) [17:28] alienBOB: do you have a long beard like Mr Stallma [17:28] n [17:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] I implemented and managed a LDAP enabled Cyrus server for many years, 200 users with mailboxes that had 2GB size. [17:29] Cyrus scales very well [17:29] cyrus shared folders are the best thing since sliced bread [17:29] dustybin: you never saw my pic then [17:29] Miley Cyrus? [17:29] GooseYAr1: agreed [17:29] nope? link? [17:29] Google Eric Hameleers [17:30] no thanks [17:30] Skywise: yah i went through that openldap/cyrus-sasl circular dependency insanity a couple of years back [17:30] His Twitter pic is pretty close to reality. [17:30] no beard?! [17:30] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:30] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/graphics/alien.jpg [17:30] :D [17:30] Why would I need a beard? [17:30] haha [17:30] to store food for winter [17:30] Hmmm [17:30] heres me: http://wizbox.org/about [17:31] mancha: I use my belly for that [17:31] As winter approaches, most of the Slackware team transition to subsisting entirely on grain alcohol. [17:31] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [17:31] ahah [17:31] they put themselves on an IV drip of ethanol [17:32] upgradepkg --reinstall moonshine.txz [17:32] GooseYAr1, oh i'm on the trail, it takes using slapd to get digest md5 support [17:32] mancha: version and architecture? [17:33] jkwood: I am almost done with my first trappist, the best alcohol package there is [17:33] it's like java, works (??) everywhere [17:33] Skywise: yep thats where I am now [17:33] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:33] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:33] i like sendmail and cyrus too, one thing i have yet to do is to have sendmail check against cyrus names before accepting the email [17:33] this is probably the best doc I've seen [17:33] http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/surviving_cyrus_sasl.pdf [17:34] v4nelle (~van@79.107.228.99) joined ##slackware. [17:34] i'm a qmail man mself [17:34] there was a howto by anfi on how to add the rules, but i had a couple of domains that i wasn't sure it would work for [17:34] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:34] alienBOB: I'll have to take your word for it. Me and alcohol would likely result in wild tales the likes of which Alan_Hicks has only hallucinated of achieving. [17:34] henry_k (~jkp@89-24-6-33.i4g.tmcz.cz) joined ##slackware. [17:35] "Hi my name's $NAME, and i'm a slackware user..." [17:35] do you guys go to LUGS in your local areas? [17:35] slackware linux user groups [17:36] oh noes, i forgot how this makes my braine hurtz [17:36] i'd go to LUGS if that didn't require me to leave the basement I never leave.. [17:36] trhodes: that is newsgroup?! [17:36] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] no, just wanted a good acronym for SLUG [17:36] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:37] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:37] who wants to hang out in a room with a bunch of guys who smell like cheese, sweat and acne creme [17:38] Skywise: you? [17:38] Skywise: haha probably like most of the people on freenode :D [17:38] depends, what kind of cheese? [17:38] BP{k}, not even on a dare [17:38] mancha, feet cheese [17:38] mancha: parmesan. ;) [17:38] hrmmm [17:39] :) [17:39] he looks pretty clean cut to me [17:39] http://www.linuxscrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/patrick_volkerding_slackware_small.jpg [17:39] henry_k (jkp@89-24-6-33.i4g.tmcz.cz) left ##slackware. [17:40] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:40] thats only cause he's not a merkin geek [17:40] not quite sure what happened here.. [17:40] http://www.crynwr.com/~nelson/als98/grumpy-alan-cox.jpeg [17:41] dustybin: The only member of the Slackware team with a real beard is Alan_Hicks. His is about 6 feet long, though, and is full of empty whiskey bottles. [17:41] haha [17:41] :D [17:41] bbiab [17:41] and tobacco juice stains [17:42] man, doesn't that get loud when he walks [17:42] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Client Quit [17:42] jesus creepers, with long yellow socks, a white t-shirt tomato ketch-up stained [17:42] you should see him try to go through airport security [17:42] Skywise: He's trained his hunting dog to bring him more whiskey, so he doesn't have to walk that often. Just sit on his front porch and shoot at the neighbors every once in a while. [17:43] thats taking dedication to your surname to a whole new level [17:44] rworkman once went to visit him, and came away with a contact drunk that lasted two weeks. [17:44] lol [17:44] why cant we have a linux version of this: http://breakpoint.untergrund.net/ [17:44] would be fun :D [17:45] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [17:46] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:47] dustybin: http://www.pouet.net/prodlist.php?platform[]=Linux&order=&x=23&y=10&page=1&order= plenty of entries for linux [17:48] Alan_Hicks also drinks a fifth of diesel once a month to help sober him up enough to pay bills. [17:48] a linux demo scene?! [17:49] haha that doesnt seem quite right [17:49] Twice a month. [17:49] back in the amiga days, i loved the demo scene [17:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-60-122.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] red sector, fairlight, melon design, kefrins [17:50] dustybin: yeah,with aminet and fredfish...it was great [17:50] Alan_Hicks: \o/ [17:50] :D [17:50] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:51] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [17:51] creative 16-bit coders, musicians, gfx artworkers :D [17:51] a lot of those demos were coded in asm [17:53] lowkyalur (~low@dslb-088-071-176-095.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: zzzzt - gone [17:55] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:55] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:55] the best 8-bit tune ever produced :D [17:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDAhixO2t5w [17:56] or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm5Hjsm5NZ4 [17:57] GooseYAr1, have you seen this link: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LDAP-HOWTO/sasl.html [17:57] back to topic :D [17:57] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Quit: inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris [17:58] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:59] how emotional :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlDTKH7_bZ4 [17:59] SlackerD (~kvirc@pool-72-82-100-37.nrflva.btas.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net [18:00] alienBOB: your ffmpeg build fails here... any idea what (I might be doing) wrong? http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/SYoxCW86.html [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426415.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.32.134) joined ##slackware. [18:02] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host217-42-253-149.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:02] \\ [18:03] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:06] jonathanr (~vcbnxn@88-107-172-239.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [18:10] Zosma: it says "ERROR: No version of libdc1394 found" [18:10] That does not look like "... everything fine here I think" [18:11] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] alienBOB: well yes... but as libdc1394 seemed to compile fine and is included in your ffmeg dir I don't know what could be the error. [18:12] The .la and .a are in ffmpegdeps [18:12] somebody has installed slack 13 in a netbook using loadlin? [18:12] Zosma: well... it builds fine here [18:13] Look in the ffmpeg "config.err" file for clues [18:14] Phew.... [18:14] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:15] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:15] /tmp/build/ffconf.XXM981cJ.c:1:38: error: libdc1394/dc1394_control.h: No such file or directory [18:15] Mmm [18:17] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:18] nevermind, just booting from usb works. using ide-to-usb adapter [18:19] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [18:19] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [18:20] felon (~felon@cpe-184-57-112-214.columbus.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] which lightweight wm do you use? [18:22] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:22] ah, slack 13 ships vanilla kernel? [18:22] Yup [18:23] somebody uses ck bfs patch? is it stable enough? [18:23] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:27] alienBOB: I guess you're building on x86_64? [18:27] Both 32-bit and 64-bit [18:28] My packages are built on vanilla Slackware 13.0 [18:28] Ah mmm. [18:28] Ow check I'm using the lastest current. [18:28] Should work there as well - since I develop my stuff on 64-bit -current [18:29] I can check tomorrow, my computers are all busy compiling stuff on 13.0 [18:29] Sure, much thanks for the package anyway of course. 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[18:46] shit, I shrink a win7 partition with built-in tool and now I get "Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder" from cfdisk [18:47] damn, not another update in current! :p [18:48] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:48] whats vanilla kernal [18:48] kernel [18:48] yes. please no more updates for a long while :) [18:48] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [18:49] at least it's a small update [18:49] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:49] tsccof (~tsccof@189.74.208.133) joined ##slackware. [18:51] guilhermebaratto (~guilherme@189.34.119.85) joined ##slackware. [18:52] feinom, unmodified linux kernel from kernel.org [18:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-60-122.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:58] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-60-122.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:13] grep ginstall /var/log/packages/* [19:13] guilhermebaratto (~guilherme@189.34.119.85) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:14] oh.. hrm [19:14] echelon not found [19:14] it's a symlink to `install` [19:15] cat MANIFEST |grep ginstall return 0 [19:15] you can always grep against /var/log/scripts too [19:16] coreutils package. [19:16] yup [19:16] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] greetings and salutations [19:17] _ZeH_ (ze_@187-4-220-170.fnses700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:17] New slackpkg beta: http://www.slackpkg.org/beta/slackpkg-2.81.1beta1-noarch-2.tgz ChangeLog: http://www.slackpkg.org/beta/ChangeLog [19:17] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [19:18] would slackware perform faster with older hardware compared to ubuntu ? [19:18] running a desktop enviroment [19:18] felon: that would depend on the configuration [19:19] _ZeH_ (ze_@187-4-220-170.fnses700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [19:20] like a amd2.0 almost a gig ram 786 or something, [19:20] python 2.6 package corrupt? wtf [19:21] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@static-200-105-*.acelerate.net expired. [19:21] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@static-200-105-*.acelerate.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:22] felon: I was refering to the configurations of the distro, not the hardware [19:23] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-24-21.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] slackin (~slackin@adsl-85-65-31.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] slackin (~slackin@adsl-85-65-31.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:29] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@189-18-45-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:32] which custom screen font do you recommend for 10.1" screen? 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[19:40] darkrho, you could try http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/adding-windows-fonts-in-linux.html [19:40] felon (~felon@cpe-184-57-112-214.columbus.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:40] test34: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [19:40] test34, thanks, I will try to make my terminal looks like facebook's fonts.. :D [19:41] thanks jailbox [19:42] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:42] hey LinuxExpert are you there [19:43] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:46] lilo stills with the 1024 cyl limitation? 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[20:17] alienBOB: it fails when the ffmpeg configure tries to check for dc1394... when configure compiles a sample program /tmp/build/tmp-ffmpeg/ffmpegdeps/usr/lib/libdc1394.a gives undefined references to libusb functions [20:17] Still dunno how I can fix it, time to sleep now. [20:19] v4nelle (~van@79.107.228.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:19] hal daemon is needed to run a minimal desktop? [20:20] Nick change: Hello -> nix_chix0r [20:20] darkrho: hal configures your keyboard mouse etc. so you normally don't need an xorg.conf anymore. [20:20] darkrho: the 1024 cylinder limit thing was fixed more than a decade ago. [20:20] At least that's the ideal. [20:20] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-24-21.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:20] if you want to do it all manualy you can live without hal. it is however a chore [20:21] rob0, I was wondering because I got a warning from fdisk about lilo and 1024 cyl [20:22] is it safe to replace bash by zsh? just link to /bin/sh is enough? [20:23] hmm, no idea, but I wouldn't try that. chsh(1) to set your own user's login shell. [20:23] no, use chsh to change your users shell; leave the bash default alone for /bin/sh [20:24] dios_mio (test@88.241.128.41) joined ##slackware. [20:25] Skywise: ugh got it going [20:25] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] ah, ok. So, isn't possible to run init scripts with zsh? I read somewhere that replacing bash with something else can boot faster [20:26] (I'm setting up a netbook with slackware, so I will shutdown/boot regularly) [20:26] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [20:26] If you were able to build a shell that ONLY did bootup stuff, then maybe. [20:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-60-122.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:27] I doubt bash is a big timewaster, though. [20:27] forego all the user interaction stuff and just handle substitution, scripting, globbing, and everything else you need...sure [20:28] yah if you had 10,000 startup scripts maybe ) [20:28] :) [20:28] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:29] will try dash for boot up [20:30] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:30] simNIX (~simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] somebody on linuxquestions posted some patches to the slack boot scripts to work with dash i think [20:31] what does dash lack that is required for booting slackware ? [20:31] seemed kind of goofy [20:31] oh, slack's boot scripts are made just for bash? [20:31] i think there were a few little bashisms in the scripts [20:32] IIRC zsh is far bigger than bash. [20:33] Correct [20:33] 20 some MB vs 4 or 5 [20:33] it is also a lot more capable, when programmed right [20:33] And I doubt things like the rc.inet1.conf arrays would work with POSIX sh. [20:33] yes, true. In my system: bash 1.8M and zsh 2.5 in res mem [20:34] dios_mio (test@88.241.128.41) left irc: Quit: We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. [20:34] Changing the shell for "speed" might make sense on a openwrt or similar, but not on a netbook. [20:34] well, unless he's watching a gazillion PATHs [20:35] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:35] But then, changing the $PATH would be the right answer. [20:35] I mainly will do python stuff, and net browsing [20:35] ..unless that's what he needs [20:35] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] shinigami (~shinigami@189.58.17.153.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:36] and install/compile lots of libs, modules, and apps. (e.g. mplayer, ffmpeg, python3, etc) [20:37] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:38] I'll leave bash for this time [20:38] How can I solve this problem? --> http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/122/dsc04574wo.jpg [20:38] I found this http://my.opera.com/atomo64/blog/2008/02/10/stress-testing-shell-interpreters [20:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-182-102.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] shinigami, that's not slackware :) [20:41] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.17.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:41] i remember when thrice got a picture of a vagineeeeeeeeee and said "how can i get into this?" and i sent him a hooker.. the good old days (3 weeks ago) [20:41] thrice`, Slackware 13.0!!! [20:42] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.17.41) joined ##slackware. [20:42] thrice`, But I'm booting by grub2!!! [20:42] shinigami, do what it says, then: use the correct root= device [20:42] jeev, she said she was your sister. I guess 'hooker' adds up, then [20:43] shinigami, what OS's are installed on the hard drive? [20:44] :( [20:44] thrice`, I tryed to make it... But I'm new in linux... I use ubuntu and now I need to use Slackware... I don't speak english very well too!!! =/ [20:45] shinigami, did you installed slackware over your ubuntu? are you using ubuntu's grub? [20:46] darkrho, I installed booting the DVD. Ubuntu is in hda4 and Slackware in hda6!!! [20:46] I just installed slack 13. And doesn't set fstab's UUID stuff. You might have wrong root device [20:46] MLanden, Ubuntu, Slackware and win vista!!! [20:47] shinigami: slackware didn't replace ubuntu's grub, or usurped the config, or merged it, or something [20:47] you will need to fix this manually whenevr you already have a linux boot loader installed [20:47] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-24-21.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] that dmesg looks like ubuntu messages, maybe your sda* devices changed and UUID doesn't work. Try replacing UUID stuff with just /dev/sdaX in your fstab [20:47] you need to boot into ubuntu, find out where you installed slackware to, and then add it to the grub config [20:48] darkrho, grub2 don't recognize my Slackware 13.0... [20:48] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:48] My entry Slackware in grub.cfg... [20:49] menuentry "Slackware" --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { [20:49] set gfxpayload=keep [20:49] Channel flood from shinigami -- kicking [20:49] insmod ext2 [20:49] set root='(hd0,6)' [20:49] search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set af902931-36b9-46c1-9f59-07d23347ba50 [20:49] shinigami kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:49] Action: andarius cheers as the mighty boot does its job :) [20:49] shinigami (~shinigami@189.58.17.153.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:49] shinigami, boot with the install cd1, boot: hugesmp.s root=/dev/hda6 rdinit= ro [20:49] lol... hda6 should be (hd0, 5) [20:49] iirc [20:50] darkrho, Here it's (hd0,6).... My ubuntu works fine in (hd0,4)!!! oO [20:51] shinigami: Use a pastebin next time. [20:51] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:51] jkwood, Sorry!!! =/ [20:51] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-59-141.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:51] shinigami: Not a problem, it'll just keep you from being kicked. ;) [20:52] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-70-18-148-102.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] darkrho, I don't understand very well it: boot with the install cd1, boot: hugesmp.s root=/dev/hda6 rdinit= ro [20:53] yes, at "boot:" prompt, type: hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda6 rdinit= ro [20:53] darkrho, Ok!!! ^^ [20:53] darkrho, Only it? [20:53] even that says in the screen [20:54] don't forget the [enter] :) [20:54] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:54] darkrho, hauhauhauhauhauhau [20:55] darkrho, I'll test it!!! Thank you very much!!! ^^ [20:55] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:56] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [20:57] shinigami (~shinigami@189.58.17.153.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:58] hauhau? [20:59] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:59] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-5-77.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:01] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:02] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] shinigami (~shinigami@189.58.17.153.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Doesn't work!!! =( [21:04] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:04] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:04] yarvin (~yarvin@155-197-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:08] hackeron_, Are You who was helping me just now? [21:09] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] Who was helping me just now? [21:11] look at your logs [21:11] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:12] logs, what are these logs you speak of... [21:14] andarius: http://www.log-frame-gazebo.com/images/logs550x423.jpg .... logs! [21:14] it's big, it's heavy, it's WOOD! [21:14] sweet, I get some of those I can build a cabin !! :) [21:15] You'll probably need more than just 'some' [21:16] I will steal more from all of you :P [21:21] insert (insert_@187.41.29.63) joined ##slackware. [21:21] all your logs are belong to me [21:21] Nick change: insert -> insert_ [21:21] shinigami (shinigami@189.58.17.153.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:22] how do i change my altgr (on right alt) to regular alt so it can act as a meta key [21:22] kinda [21:22] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:22] Nick change: insert_ -> insert [21:23] oh! LinuxExpert can you fix my other computer [21:28] Nick change: insert -> xinsrt [21:29] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:31] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6ABAE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:18] cteg (~heretic@host-091-097-122-032.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:22] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:24] simNIX (~simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: Quit: Ik ga weg [23:40] i dont think my right alt works at all [23:41] i'm on putty [23:41] anyone know how to fix this issue [23:41] putty.. in Slackware? [23:41] why not use one of the native terminal emulators [23:42] i ssh into slackware with putty [23:42] Dominian, i don't think anyone is that stupid.... [23:42] not even pizzledizzle [23:43] any suggestions [23:44] If you are on windows, I've had the same issue and just deal with it. [23:44] Action: Dominian shrugs [23:44] never really cared why the right alt didn't work in putty. [23:44] just use the left one and get on with life. [23:45] i dont think the right one even works in X on xterm [23:45] sure you're keyboard isn't broke? [23:46] no, altgr works fine on xterm [23:46] god damn putty [23:46] pizzledizzle: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1820%3E [23:46] 5 sec google search [23:47] the last post in particular [23:47] actually nevermind [23:47] estranho (~estranho@201.36.223.82) joined ##slackware. [23:47] estranho (~estranho@201.36.223.82) left irc: Changing host [23:47] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [23:47] back to search results [23:47] There is one in that post about a registry setting [23:48] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Client Quit [23:49] are there any good alternatives to putty? [23:50] I've not found any that I'm happy with [23:50] I'm waiting for the KDE on Windows team to port Konsole some day ;) [23:59] wow i have a fucking virus on my computer [23:59] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:59] i wonder if my brother got it on, lately i've been sloppy though [23:59] strings of winlog.exe :/ in program files. [23:59] |ConData|~DB063DC90E6B8037FF61CDF3F73C83B6714FFF7AF94C15A6A4C18A1D65DBD5FB~75D170FD74CC2450C87E7D28813B3DC58DA9B91D1061965E0BC7E9E13E6DBFB2~50E71270934302327E84258E04FD5E2A01D87CAD7FC78785A4A21281DE44A20E~|ConData||SvrSettings|~0~0~0~0~|SvrSettings||SvrFunctions|~0~Reverse Proxy~Information: This is a Proxy Server! Using this application, the owner is able to tunnel his TCP connections through YOUR computer! Kill this process NOW if it is now authorized [23:59] ;( [23:59] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [23:59] gay [23:59] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:59] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [23:59] gayer [00:00] --- Sun May 2 2010