[00:00] Anyone have any idea what's going wrong? There is a kernel module listed as being in use for my sound card, 'snd-hda-intel' [00:01] more intel fun. meh. makes me reeeeally wanna go all 13 [00:02] eh =\ what's also odd is that lspci reports the audio card as being ATI in origin...not sure why Its chosen an intel audio module [00:02] ati audio? [00:03] slackytude|evil, http://paste2.org/p/493473 [00:03] ati .... wth [00:04] thats not good [00:05] what the hell, just installed grub, made a decent menu.lst file, everything went like a charm, I'm rebooting and... lilo's still there. [00:05] zalt, apparently you didn't install grub onto the MBR, since LILO is still there. [00:05] the grubconfig gave me an error.. [00:05] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-2-9.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:05] and I believe that was an issue with the script itself [00:05] or maybe you installed it to the wrong mbr [00:05] I have found newer lilo is just as stuborn to remove as grub can be [00:06] kept looking for hdl1 instead of sdl1.. [00:06] so failed. [00:06] is there any command that requires to be ran after you've made changes to menu.lst and are satisified with it? [00:06] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [00:08] slackytude|evil, any idea what's up with lspci? [00:08] zalt: You've read the README for using grub instead of lilo? http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.1/extra/grub/README [00:08] Miroku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [00:09] fire|bird, I have yes. [00:09] fire|bird, it says to run the config script which breaks on me. [00:09] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] keeps looking for hdl1 instead of sdl1. [00:10] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:10] theres a reason slack comes with lilo by default [00:10] thrice`: pong [00:11] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:12] Miroku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:13] Miroku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] Miroku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:15] dwm is nice [00:18] I know, its brilliant [00:19] plus dmenu = heaven [00:20] yeah, I couldn't live without it. [00:20] I've grown fond of conky too, since - with a little lua magic - it can do anything you need it to [00:21] thrice`: wow, they went a whole different direction with the wallpaper. [00:23] Cryp71c: do you use irssi ? [00:24] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:26] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:31] corden (n=corden@acl1-814bts.gw.smartbro.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] guys it is posible to install slack inside windows? just like wubi? [00:32] corden: only with a virtual machine [00:32] i dont know what wubi is, but if you are going to install slackware from windows it *will* be via a virtual machine [00:32] vbox etc... [00:32] :( [00:32] ok tnx [00:32] you dont know how to boot a DVD? [00:32] i know [00:32] just like the concept of wubi [00:32] macavity: wubi lets you install ubuntu like a regular windows app [00:33] corden: but it's slower [00:33] corden: that's the price you pay [00:33] slower than virtual? [00:33] i dont have any other OSes than Slackware, so i pretty much dont give a fart :P [00:33] corden: i don't know .. [00:33] i guess i will download the 32-bit iso [00:34] since my proc don't support AMD-V :( [00:34] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] deco, no, xchat..I've used irssi in the past and I couldn't ever get past how it displayed channels (in a sequential list you have to cycle through, etc.) [00:35] i could run Slackware64 on this box, but i simply dont bother [00:35] Cryp71c: it really sucks with dwm ... the keybindings.. [00:35] dwm steals the keys [00:35] how about "out of range" lcd response? [00:35] corden: just try it ... [00:36] that the error [00:36] oh [00:36] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:36] i can't find xorg.conf, since it does not exist anymore ithink [00:36] root@li:~# grub-install /dev/sdl [00:36] Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. [00:36] The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. [00:37] Channel flood from zalt -- kicking [00:37] grrr.. [00:37] zalt kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:37] corden: Xorg -configure [00:37] zalt (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Cryp71c: in irssi you dont have to cycle through the windows.. alt-n where n is the number button corresponding to the window [00:37] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:37] okok i try that one tnx [00:38] macavity, in dwm, alt + number is the number of the workspace. [00:38] corden: that will make an xorg.conf , move it from /root to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:38] /s/an/a [00:38] corden: what graphics chip/card do you have? [00:38] Does anyone use ventrilo through wine? I've never had to suffer through it but now I'm even having trouble instaling it. [00:38] installing [00:38] i had a built-in one [00:38] asrock alive [00:39] grrrrrr dwm even uses ctrl-f [00:39] and what graphics chip is on that one? [00:39] i can't use find in firefox [00:39] deco, I never had any trouble using find in firefox.. [00:39] nvidia [00:39] deco, but you can change your bindings by editing the config.h file and 'make install' [00:39] ok, then my knowledge stops [00:40] ok [00:40] Cryp71c: grrr i had it like that in xbindkeysrc lol [00:40] tnx everyone [00:40] but if you had had intel or ati/amd you could just remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it figures out everything on its on 99% of the times [00:40] oic [00:41] but i *seem* to remember that the proprietary nvidia driver install offers you to set you xorg.conf up right [00:41] ok back later after solving the problem ;) [00:41] macavity: you haev to run it's tool [00:41] for that [00:41] it might work.. i dont know if Xorg -configure will take the proprietary driver into account [00:41] have* [00:41] corden (n=corden@acl1-814bts.gw.smartbro.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:42] well.. editing it by hand is always number one.. at least it will give you an idea of what the heck is going on [00:43] Cryp71c: fixed! \o/ [00:43] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [00:44] chee: eeeeee! \o/ [00:44] i'm a little treetop [00:44] Action: chee whimpers pleasently with the scruff of his ears [00:45] Action: chee purrs at deco [00:45] O_O [00:45] Action: deco pets chee [00:45] Action: chee purr purr [00:45] chee: where do you get your drugs? :P [00:46] <:D [00:46] does anyone know some good software for drawing (+ simulating )logic circuits? [00:46] you buy your drugs from Bozo the Clown? [00:47] benny_puppy (n=benny_pu@220.244.188.95) joined ##slackware. [00:48] chee: http://www.gnu.org/software/electric/electric.html [00:48] How can I find out the version of my alsa driver? [00:49] ah awesome, ty macavity [00:49] modinfo? [00:50] sometimes it gives a version.. sometime it only prints the general kernel version [00:50] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-2-9.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] and sometimes you can see it in dmesg too [00:51] figabo_ (n=Slacker@187.149.2.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:52] chee: if you find electric any good, please consider contributing a slackbuild on slackbuilds.org [00:53] chee, logisim was always what my university used. Free and (likely) runs on linux. [00:53] i considered contributing a slackbuild for something yesterday [00:53] then i got scared [00:53] chee: what app ? [00:53] benny_puppy (n=benny_pu@220.244.188.95) left ##slackware. [00:54] chee: dont get scared.. get feedback! ;-) [00:54] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-84-112.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [00:54] thats how you lean the trade [00:54] anyhow.. i have to sleep now [00:54] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [00:54] is there a way to try automatically keep up to date with slackware patches? [00:54] Cryp71c, !! This is the exact program I have been looking for all day!! [00:55] I had it before on another machine, running a more suspect distribution, that eris frowned upon [00:55] and I had forgotten its name [00:55] tyvm, i can now do my homework [00:56] ;) [00:56] Action: deco pets chee again [00:56] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:56] dissociative, use a package manager like synaptics? [00:56] dissociative, would it work to schedule a cron to do slackpkg update every night a 2:40am? [00:56] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:56] chee: just join the mailing list [00:57] i suppose i could try to submit a slackbuild for logisim [00:57] if you run slackpkg from cron unattended make sure to blacklist any package that is a critical service [00:57] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] hm, i don't remember this bbeing a jar last time [00:57] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:58] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-61-69-192-237.for.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [01:00] Cryp71c (i=1000@c-68-53-104-165.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:01] awesome, logisim doesn't run ! [01:02] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "boo... are you skeered yet ?" [01:03] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] there, Fedora's all updated. 226 packages later. [01:05] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [01:05] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [01:06] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [01:06] kiran_ (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [01:06] kiran_ (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) left irc: Client Quit [01:06] ok, i know it's been a while since i've compiled my own c++ with gcc, but this is ridiculous [01:06] with regards to '<macavity> chee: if you find electric any good, please consider contributing a slackbuild on slackbuilds.org': it is supplied as an executable .jar, is any slackbuild required in this instance? [01:07] oops @ red [01:07] what's the problem, nyRednek ? [01:08] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:08] http://pastebin.com/d72f6fe86 [01:09] chee: apparently, g++ isn't finding the c++ libs [01:09] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] chee: and i DID #include them [01:09] Action: nyRednek the headers, that is [01:10] let's see the code? [01:10] zalt (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) left irc: "User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" [01:10] chee: haha, Fedora has Seamonkey 2.0 already. sheesh. [01:10] haha, fire|bird XD [01:10] that didn't take long. [01:10] are you now using fedora exclusively ? [01:11] no, I just have Fedora to mess with on a spare hard drive. [01:11] fedora really update everything almost constantly [01:11] i plaed with it for a while [01:11] *played [01:11] no kidding, I just had 226 updates, but this is Fedora 12 Beta, so....' [01:11] packages were out almost in perfect sync with source updates [01:12] i 'm pretty sure it's maintained by cyborgs [01:12] It's amazing how fast paced they are, it's great to keep on the cutting edge, but using Fedora for a little bit here again, makes me realize how great slackware is. [01:12] chee: /msg [01:12] chee: nah it's just backed up by an enterprise .. [01:13] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] heh, seamonkey 2 is suppose to be really close to FF 3.5.4 as far as addons, etc. yet things like Ubiquity won't work with it. :P [01:14] There must be just enough differences to make things like that not work. [01:15] haha, Seamonkey has crashed on Fedora, twice, on Slackware, that hadn't happened at all. [01:15] fire|bird, I thought that Firefox used XUL to render everything whereas SeaMonkey talked straight to GTK (thus no XUL-based addons) [01:15] veritos: yeah, I think that is the case, but seamonkey 2 is suppose to be much closer to Firefox. [01:16] This is insane, now it won't start at all. [01:18] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.78.211) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] heh, google seems to be what crashes it. [01:19] Hmm, apparently any site you try to load, crashes it. \o/ [01:20] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [01:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:23] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [01:25] julioc (n=Who@189.111.9.78) joined ##slackware. [01:25] fire|bird, you can't use the internet on fedora [01:26] chee: yeah, I can still use Firefox, just not seamonkey on Fedora. [01:26] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:26] Seamonkey binary on Slack has worked flawlessly. [01:26] Action: chee shows off his monkey [01:26] put that thing away, you'll scare veritos [01:26] :( [01:27] Action: veritos runs in terror [01:27] Action: chee shakes it about [01:27] \o/, sbopkg 0.31.0 [01:37] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-136-178.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:38] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:38] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-136-178.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] Nick change: julioc -> julioc|zzz [01:41] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [01:42] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8DD0F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] Hey all you abiword lusers: http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.0/ChangeLog.rss [01:43] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:46] delt0r__ (n=delt0r@80.123.52.25) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] rworkman: Did you mean the "l" in lusers? :P [01:46] I installed firefox 3.5.3 in slackware 12.1 and some pages looks like really screwe [01:46] d [01:46] like the slackware.com official page as example [01:47] dissociative: like fonts, layout, what? [01:47] the background image isnt rastered or something like that [01:47] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) left irc: "Leaving" [01:47] delt0r__ (n=delt0r@80-123-55-64.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [01:47] I dont know how to take a screenshot [01:48] dissociative: try with a new ~/.mozilla ---> mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak and then open firefox and see if that fixes anything. [01:48] ok [01:48] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:49] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [01:49] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] errrm [01:50] it seems to work [01:50] oops [01:50] it happened again [01:50] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-61-69-192-237.for.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:50] the background isnt being displayed and all I get is like garbage [01:50] ff 3.5.3 wont even run on this install [01:51] damn [01:51] just steals 100% cpu and never loads a gui only a pid [01:51] I dont know what to do [01:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:51] me either [01:51] hehe [01:51] this is beginning to bother me too much at the point of willing to switch to opera or seamonkey [01:52] dissociative: opera is nice [01:53] deco u are always here :P [01:53] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:54] CcSsNET: watching you all.... [01:54] khider (n=khider@dsl-67-204-12-142.acanac.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:54] was here 7 hours ago and u where here hehe [01:54] mmmm [01:54] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:54] firefox-3.5.4 is already out [01:54] Isn't the latest FF in 12.1 2.0.0.20? Therefore, beings it hasn't been updated to any higher, there's not really a guarantee for it to work. [01:54] CcSsNET: yup was here since 10am i belive [01:54] lol [01:54] usa est? [01:55] CcSsNET: california [01:55] CcSsNET: you ? [01:55] o jeeze [01:55] usa est [01:55] ive already slept hahaha [01:55] CcSsNET: lol!!! [01:55] CcSsNET: but tomorrow i get to go out ... [01:55] why haven't i slept, i wonder [01:55] see the sun .. people ... [01:56] dissociative: imo, if you were to switch to opera or seamonkey, I'd go with seamonkey. :) [01:56] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.82.48) joined ##slackware. [01:56] but what I dont like of seamonkey is that I cant turn off flash without having to restart it [01:56] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] what do you mean? [01:57] that [01:57] What are you doing to turn off flash that needs a restart of it? [01:57] you cant disable flash in seamonkey unless turning plugins off and then closing reopen it [01:58] trying to kill annoying adds [01:58] ads [01:58] why don't you just use adblock plus [01:58] are you NUTS [01:58] use adblock [01:58] I always use Adblock for that [01:58] I try to ever disable flash only when I'm out of youtube [01:58] what about FlashBlock? [01:58] if you want to disable flash, use flashblock [01:58] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F3997.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:58] adblock + flashblock combined, dawg! [01:58] chee: right on [01:59] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:59] never used it seriously [01:59] dissociative: Those two are quite affective. [01:59] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:59] Action: chee uses it somberly [01:59] AdSweep is another good one. [01:00] which is best? [01:00] n need no flashblock [01:00] just get noscript [01:00] dissociative: I'd give AdBlock a try first. [01:00] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A749F1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:01] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [01:01] if I install it from firefox seamonkey will use it too? [01:02] no, it has to be installed from each. [01:02] The addons are stored in different directories [01:02] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:02] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [01:03] also one of the things that is going to kill me is manually keeping up to date with slackware [01:04] I will have to setup something like a rsync script [01:04] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] I once saw a script that would grab the change log every night and show you the diff since when you last logged in. [01:06] veritos: I had conky doing that for a while. [01:06] I'm used to grab/install like every package manually [01:06] but it eats a load of time and such [01:06] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [01:06] i want to offer this fella a piece of advice, but i'm scared of the consequences [01:06] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [01:07] fire|bird: yes :) [01:07] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:07] lol [01:07] night guys [01:07] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:07] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:07] hi [01:07] rworkman: I figured so. [01:07] hi, g4tt0 [01:08] hi g4tt0 [01:08] hi, fire|bird [01:08] what is it [01:08] hey chee [01:09] Action: chee whispers slapt-get(?) softly in dissociative's ear, and then steps behind somebody larger than fire|bird [01:09] NOOOOOO, not slapt-get. [01:09] Action: chee cowers [01:09] Action: fire|bird slapt's chee :) [01:09] Action: chee gets-slapt [01:10] slackpkg [01:10] it's included! [01:10] slackpkg upgrade-all [01:10] Action: veritos makes a comment about newfangled package managers and upgradepkg:s the two updates in -current. [01:11] Action: veritos ...uphill both ways... [01:11] I feel like I'm not going to sleep this night =) [01:12] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.82.48) left irc: "Leaving" [01:12] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] i hate you abiword!! [01:14] Axius (n=fd@92.82.82.48) joined ##slackware. [01:14] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:14] abiword hates you too [01:15] i wish abiword was a little girl , so i could slap her around [01:15] .... [01:16] yeah! managed to get gnupg to work in kmail [01:16] abiword is the anorexic chick [01:16] OOo is the fat one [01:17] abiword is mostly useless for .doc btw. although i havent tried using their own native format. that probably works [01:17] MS office is the whore on the corner [01:17] haha [01:17] um, iWork is a limp-wristed english major [01:17] MS Office is a very highly priced prostitute, who sleeps with the first guy she meets [01:17] when she's off duty [01:18] haha [01:19] in case anyone was wondering, the .xsession Slackware puts in $HOME upon user creation works only when using startx [01:19] xinit just was weird when i tried [01:19] i'm just going to ask here again, even though I've asked a few times already. There were different people around last time, though [01:20] does anyone have any ideas as to why i'm no longer able to switch to a virtual terminal? [01:20] ctrl+alt+F1 to F6 does exactly nothing [01:20] but, F6 works? [01:21] none of them work [01:21] you changed inittab to login to level 4. thats why [01:21] i didn't touch inittab [01:21] i still start X by hand, the same as I always have [01:21] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.78.87) joined ##slackware. [01:21] no idea then [01:21] you messed up something for sure :P [01:21] read 'always' as 'since last weekend when i installed slack' [01:23] do other keyboard shortcuts work? [01:23] well, read 'as i always have' that way. otherwise the sentence becomes unmanagable, syntactically mad and so on [01:23] like ctrl-alt-backspace [01:23] are you threatening me, veritos? [01:23] i haven't tried ctrl+alt+bacspace [01:23] but I also don't know if I have DontZap off [01:23] (is it off by default in slack?) [01:24] ctrl-alt-backspace is allowable by default. [01:24] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:25] oops [01:25] lol [01:25] He must have hit the wrong combo. :P [01:25] And this, ladies, is why you use screen(1). [01:25] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [01:25] other shortcuts still work [01:26] probably should have saved that assignment [01:26] oh dear [01:27] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:27] lol, http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/94690531_463ad845aa.jpg [01:29] guess whats wrong with this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30551781@N06/2984591131/ [01:29] hahaha [01:29] Title of photo fail [01:30] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:30] firebird didn't you know he invented everything linux [01:31] sahko: It'd have been even more fail if the actual pic of Pat was labeled Ian Murdock :P [01:31] indeed! [01:32] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:32] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:36] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:36] http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5930/a89104f7b9ca.jpg [01:36] haha, http://i.imgur.com/WIpA1.jpg [01:37] winter, wait, what? [01:37] ? [01:38] what what [01:38] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:38] the pic [01:38] that's just...weird. [01:38] can't you see it? [01:39] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] and what are you? a member from antiweird pictures departament? [01:39] s/from/of [01:39] i can see it, but it /scare\?s/ me. [01:40] ... [01:40] so you've got a problem! [01:40] \o/ [01:40] haha, if you search for Patrick Volkerding on Google Images, you get many images titled "Patrick Volkerding". on the first page you get a few of Pat, that one of the founder of debian, one of Linus Torvalds and one of "Bob" [01:41] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.75.205) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:41] as a therapy i would suggest a trip to the poorest district [01:41] the one of "Bob" says Patrick underneath [01:41] in your city [01:45] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.209.250) joined ##slackware. [01:45] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:45] lol. theres a man gpl [01:47] ++- [01:50] Axius (n=fd@92.82.82.48) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:51] i need to pee [01:51] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:52] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:54] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:55] oscar has left a plastic newspapaer t my door [01:57] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] OpenOffice wants to correct 'Karnaugh Map' to 'Naughty Map' [02:05] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [02:10] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [02:11] y0 antler [02:11] hey fire|bird :) how are you? [02:11] great, thanks. you? [02:12] pretty good. just installed 13. xfce is fast [02:12] yeah, very fast. [02:12] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:13] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] fire|bird: this old machine is a p4 2.8ghz and xfce is still zippy [02:14] antler: So, you going to use xfce now? [02:15] this machine is limited, so yeah i'll use whatever's light, fast [02:16] one thing i don't get. p4s are not dual core, yet when i boot i see two taz devils [02:16] antler: yeah, my machine is a p4 3.2ghz and xfce is awesome with it. [02:16] antler: Is the machine hyperthreaded? [02:17] i'll have to check in bios to be sure, but quite possibly [02:17] is that why? [02:17] what do people use as sort of a "catfish" notifier? command line commands with a hook to X [02:17] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:17] antler: possibly, yeah, I've read before that if it's hyperthreaded (smp) then it'll show (sometimes anyway) two tux's or taz's. My machine is hyperthreaded, but doesn't show two, just one. [02:18] tvn2009 (n=bd@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [02:19] how hard is it to get my slackware box to access files on a windows box on the home network. is it just samba? [02:20] do i need anything else? [02:21] I've never done that, so I'm of no help. :P [02:21] antler: just samba [02:21] easy-peasy [02:22] 1. chmod +x rc.samba; 2. smbpasswd -a 3. Check your /etc/samba/smb.conf 4. start rc.samba [02:23] redtricy1le: yeah. then in windows, map the network drive, e.g., \\slackware\anter\home. telling me it can't find the path [02:23] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:24] going to look at smb.conf again [02:27] hehe i'm confusing myself :P [02:27] antler: that's usually not hard to do though, is it? :P [02:28] fire|bird: especially not right now, in my current state of mind [02:28] smoking a blunt [02:29] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [02:29] redtricy1le: k, what should i do in windows? [02:29] antler: I assume you've done it already, but make sure you have shared folders... [02:29] After, that [02:30] I usually just use konqueror [02:30] to browse [02:30] 'cause it automounts [02:30] Doh! damn shared folders [02:30] hahaha [02:30] thanks, redtricy1le :) [02:30] np =/ [02:32] can someone take a look at my udev rules? http://pastebin.com/m6d970fac [02:32] trying to make my backup script run [02:32] when i plug my external HD in [02:33] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.110.28) joined ##slackware. [02:34] hey guys, is slackwiki dead? I had bookmarked it sometime ago. but now it points to a squatter page.. :S [02:34] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:34] tvn2009 (n=bd@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: "leaving" [02:34] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.12.17) joined ##slackware. [02:34] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:34] isBEKaml: No, it isn't dead, it will be back eventually, not sure when. [02:35] ok [02:36] hi all. is there a way to make a ScreenShot in slackware13+xfce without installing any other pkgs? [02:36] Okay, I fixed it.. [02:36] subsystem was scsi, not usb [02:38] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [02:41] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:44] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [02:44] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: Client Quit [02:45] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) left irc: [02:48] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:48] Bleh. Problem with backup to usb.. [02:48] I have a udev script that calls backup-to-usb.sh [02:48] However, I use XFCE's automount feature [02:48] that automounts it to /media/MYUSB [02:48] how do I ensure XFCE's automount works before my script fires? [02:50] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:00] antler: haha, no, I get enough sleep, just have odd hours. :P [03:00] c code to create a file? fopen doesn't seem to do it and i can't seem to think of the function [03:02] thieusoai__ (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: "leaving" [03:02] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "leaving" [03:02] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [03:02] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:04] wth why does konq copy the file from the share directory before i can do anything with it? [03:06] redtricy1le: does it happen to you? [03:06] moh2a (n=mohaa@89.16.14.40) joined ##slackware. [03:07] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [03:08] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] is this syntax correct? fprintf(newFile,"%d",pastDrawings[counter1][counter2]); [03:13] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-167.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:13] antler: I havent tried that -- I usually transfer files [03:14] antler: I havent looked into it, but maybe check out smbfs [03:14] err, fusesmb [03:15] redtricy1le: k [03:15] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:16] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.82.48) joined ##slackware. [03:16] matt__ (n=matt@142.162.21.35) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [03:20] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:20] >_< [03:20] it seems like the udev rules cant work on mounted media [03:20] packeteer (n=zed@ppp121-44-203-165.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:54] hi all [03:55] can't get my bluetooth work ( [03:55] google didn't help also [03:56] maybe here somebody helps [03:57] i have fresh slackware 13 install [03:58] the problem is that running hcid -n gives "Parsing /etc/bluetooth/main.conf failed: No such file or directory" message [03:58] and also "Unable to get on D-Bus" [03:59] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [03:59] tried running that as root? [04:00] vdv: ^^ [04:00] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [04:00] yes, of course [04:01] and that file for sure exists? [04:01] there's also hcid process in ps ax [04:01] that file doesn't exist [04:01] and shouldn't [04:02] because this file is used by bluez4 [04:02] but slackware 13 has blues3 [04:02] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:02] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [04:03] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.250.5.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] Well, I'm on slack 13, don't even use bluetooth, and I have that file. (main.conf) [04:05] really? [04:06] can you pastebin it? [04:07] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/YiBrSy50.html [04:07] i run slackware-current and don't have the file [04:07] Well, I have it, not sure how, this pc doesn't even have bluetooth anything. [04:07] afaik, bluez has not been touched in slackware-current [04:08] no, I don't believe it has. [04:08] fire|bird: can you please check your bluez version? [04:08] biki (n=biki@117.197.244.132) joined ##slackware. [04:09] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/5hGHY985.html [04:09] bluez ^^^ [04:09] [OT] where can I get help with ant colony optimization problems? [04:09] bleh, using RUN+="myscript.sh" -- myscript.sh mounts /dev/sdc [04:09] but it cant find /dev/sdc [04:09] at the script runtime [04:10] fire|bird: same here [04:10] Any clues? [04:10] i tried using the usb subsystem instead of scsi [04:10] Axius (n=fd@92.85.208.219) joined ##slackware. [04:10] i created that file [04:10] and changing the order of when the rules file gets called [04:10] pcregrep 'main\.conf' /var/log/packages/* [04:10] and now running hcid gives only "Unable to get on D-Bus" [04:11] rg3: no result [04:11] does hcid have a ticket? jk [04:12] t0f: i don't know ) [04:12] t0f: don't quit your day job. :P [04:12] lol [04:12] med\weed (n=neko@67.43.59.207) left ##slackware. [04:14] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [04:14] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:15] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. 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[04:57] What does it mean if rsync isnt transferring when done from a script as root? [04:57] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:57] does that mean when root does it, the file times get lost?..maybe that's why rsync fails? [04:57] rsync only sends the incremental list [04:57] and doesnt send changes... [04:57] I'm using rsync -av [04:57] hi [05:00] does rsync print an error message, redtricycle? [05:00] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:01] Ah...one sec [05:01] I didnt mount as ntfs-3g, so root has it mounted as read-only [05:01] let me try [05:02] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:03] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:04] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. 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[06:11] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:13] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.40) left irc: Connection timed out [06:17] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [06:22] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:23] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [06:24] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [06:26] goenet (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [06:26] hello [06:27] hi [06:27] can anyone tell me why root device has become /dev/root [06:27] goenet: well, more information? [06:28] i don't care for that myself [06:28] when installing grub on slackware 13 ... I had some issues with root device [06:28] grub-install --recheck /dev/sda [06:29] goenet: any particular reason why you're using grub? [06:29] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) left irc: [06:29] boot root partition was known as /dev/root [06:29] have an existing script that adds a rescue boot line to menu.lst [06:30] also, make sometimes kernels, grub gives me more flexibility when booting with alternate parameters [06:31] on mistake ... I can just change parameters and then finally correct my menu.lst file [06:32] goenet: i really would recommend you stick with lilo unless you have some pressing need to use grub. [06:32] any reason for that (except the fact you can't change the boot parameters which makes it safe) [06:33] but if you're having grub problems, i suggest you join the grub channel and ask them, they are going to be much more equiped to solve your problems than a distro channel that is quite lilo-centric [06:34] ok but still why has root device become /dev/root instead of /dev/sda1 (i propable can change this in udev) [06:34] goenet: you havent given me any information that can help me answer that question. [06:34] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-25-35-150.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [06:34] isn't my question clear [06:34] hi all [06:34] :) [06:35] hi [06:35] goenet, spook gave you the information to go on grub channel... [06:35] goenet: perhaps pastebinning some information, like /etc/fstab, df, mount... [06:35] df's output says /dev/root now instead of the actual partition containing '/' [06:35] is there anyone who could ever get bluetooth work on 13.0 ? [06:35] goenet: describing your system perhaps too [06:36] t0f: for me, df says /dev/raid10/lvol1 20642428 17260168 2333684 89% / [06:36] spook: oh? [06:36] t0f: but i dont suppose you're using anything funky like lvm on top of software raid [06:37] no [06:37] just a simple desktop system [06:37] Sn0oP (n=Zabasta@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Client Quit [06:38] no but its a change in slackware not in grub [06:38] t0f: maybe look at /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf might be aliasing it or something :) [06:38] spook: ok [06:38] say mount in console and it will return /dev/root on / type ..... [06:39] goenet: write the root partition in /etc/fstab and search for it there [06:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [06:39] goenet: i was looking for a pastebin of information like that. but are you really concerned about /dev/root being / or do you just want grub working? [06:39] thanks spook I didn't think about mtab but will return you any result for your info [06:40] in fact i don't care but from slackware to slackware releases, I'm usually taking over my former install scripts and adjust them [06:40] goenet: if you, at any point in time, know which is the root partition, write the device name in /etc/fstab and get it from there, so you only have to change it there if it ever changes [06:41] Sn0oP (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [06:41] I have created a small script to install grub and add a custom ram dist to start my system in rescue mode with some usefull commands like partimage rsync ftp ncp mounting possibilities [06:42] not sure why you cant do that with lilo. [06:42] the fstab file says /dev/sda1 but the system returns /dev/root (when running mount) [06:42] ...is ther any chance that grub sees / as root? [06:42] ok I agree but the purpose was not to start changing this [06:43] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [06:44] if I start adding such overhead on each sub-install / addons I have then I will probabluy run out of time and focus more on those changes than on my real work [06:44] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:45] I'm using Slackware as my dev / testing & staging desktop and it's really a nice distro [06:46] awk '/^[[:graph:]]+[[:space:]]+\/[[:space:]]/ { print $1 }' /etc/fstab [06:46] /dev/sda3 [06:46] on my system it says /dev/sda1 [06:46] whatever, that's the root device [06:47] indeed I can see /dev/root in mtab [06:47] should I change this to /dev/sda1 [06:53] see u later [06:53] goenet (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: "Leaving" [06:53] mmm [06:53] was about to suggest reading the link with readlink [06:54] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.40) joined ##slackware. [06:54] readlink -f `mount | grep 'on / type' | cut -d' ' -f1` [06:55] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[07:13] never had any bluetooth device to really try :D [07:14] Action: Camarade_Tux can't believe he got all of the sentence \o/ [07:14] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.250.5.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:15] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@93.68.241.243) joined ##slackware. [07:15] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] What does set digraph do? [07:17] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:18] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [07:18] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:20] Kinni (n=Natenom@xdsl-78-34-108-123.netcologne.de) joined ##slackware. [07:20] Natenom_ (n=Natenom@xdsl-87-79-50-158.netcologne.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:22] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:23] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.2" [07:25] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:25] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [07:25] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:26] Axius are you talking about vim? [07:26] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.91.2) joined ##slackware. [07:26] yes [07:27] http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tutorials/vim/modes-vim.html.en --- Section 4.4 [07:28] Anyone getting multiple irc disconnects? [07:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:30] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:30] WildWizard: thanks [07:31] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [07:35] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.40) left irc: Success [07:39] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:42] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [07:42] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:46] goenet (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [07:47] hi back here ... mtab did not changes the root dev to /dev/sda1 [07:48] why would you be touching mtab? [07:48] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8DD0F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:49] klaasvakie (n=johann@vc-41-29-121-62.umts.vodacom.co.za) joined ##slackware. [07:51] goenet, try "ls -l /dev/root" [07:52] http://www.mail-archive.com/pld-cvs-commit@lists.pld-linux.org/msg153334.html [07:52] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:52] here's a spec file [07:53] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [07:53] i want to build kdebluetooth, but build fails [07:53] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [07:53] ok ... minute trying modif of ude rules .. rebooting [07:53] where should i put spec file? [07:53] vdv, first, that's very wrong. second, it needs bluez4, which slackware doesn't provide [07:53] goenet: why are you modifying mtab, if you want for changes to survive reboot? [07:54] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik_rus|busy [07:55] does kdebluetooth 1.0 need bluez4? [07:56] loll thought this could be had some influence even if theoritically not [07:57] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:59] tewmten (i=tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [08:00] thrice`: can't i use kdebluetooth 1.0 with bluez 3.36 ? [08:01] I don't think so [08:06] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:08] Kinni (n=Natenom@xdsl-78-34-108-123.netcologne.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:09] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) joined ##slackware. [08:09] opty (n=opty@gw-oc5.erkor-oc.cz) joined ##slackware. [08:09] hello [08:10] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Client Quit [08:10] anyone tried upgrading from 12.1 or lower directly to 13.0? [08:11] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. 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[09:10] yest [09:10] by the way, you missed a line i posted above [09:10] sorry I was away [09:10] readlink -f `mount | grep 'on / type' | cut -d' ' -f1` [09:11] echo "/dev/root" | sed "s/root/sda1/" [09:11] [4a-52-4d] (n=rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:11] [4a-52-4d] (n=rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] ok for sed but my root dev is returned by $mmyroot [09:12] how would i use $myroot in sed instead of sda1 [09:13] echo "/dev/root" | sed "s/root/`echo $myroot`/" [09:13] notice that the ` are backticks (on the same key as ~) [09:13] no need for echo in there [09:13] thanks klaasvakie going to try this [09:13] actually you do need the echo [09:14] get, don't, the init scripts specifically link /dev/root [09:14] echo "/dev/root" | sed "s/root/$myroot/" [09:14] otherwise the subshell will try to execute $myroot and will fail [09:14] goenet, ** [09:14] rg3, apologies [09:14] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] your solution is much simpler [09:14] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] np [09:14] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:14] i still don't get why he would want to do that [09:14] goenet, grep root /etc/rc.d/rc.udev to see why you have the /dev/root [09:15] i missed the first part [09:15] the readlink line i put above extracts the name of the real root device, without checking anything [09:15] so i have no idea [09:15] but he's not telling us what exactly he's doing... [09:15] oh well [09:17] why does goenet not just symlink /dev/root to his actual root device? [09:17] thrice thanks but I see that rc.udev defined root [09:18] well the issue is that I want the root device to be the real one because my script says grub-install /dev/sda1 [09:18] goenet: but, man, have you tried the line above? [09:18] it will be, /dev/root is just a symlink [09:18] it will give you the real root device [09:19] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-10-31 16:15 /dev/root -> sda2 [09:19] if, for some weird reason, saying "/dev/root" doesn't work [09:19] which it should, because it should be linked to the real root fs partition :| [09:20] i see it similar to thrice`; i didn't set the symlink up, but it's correctly pointing to the right partition: readlink -f `mount | grep 'on / type' | cut -d' ' -f1` [09:20] er [09:20] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-10-27 20:58 /dev/root -> sda3 [09:20] sorry [09:22] to everybody ... i just wanted to have root device mounted as /dev/sda1 and not /dev/root but now, doing an ls -s /dev/sda1 /dev/root is an alternate way to solve this issue [09:22] o__O [09:22] 2 people already told you this is done by default [09:22] you're going to link /dev/root to the real root, even though the real root is already a link to /dev/root ? [09:23] no, wait, that changes things [09:24] or... no [09:25] does that make sense? your root filesystem is mounted as /dev/root and changing the symlink works? [09:25] weird [09:26] then still because i'm usually scripting my install, i will include a ln -s $(readlink -f `mount | grep 'on / type' | cut -d' ' -f1`) /dev/root 2>/dev/null into my rc.local [09:26] thanks [09:26] don't thank me, I had no part in such a nasty measure ;) [09:27] that doesn't make much sense :D [09:27] but ok :D [09:27] i was missing the symlink .... on one system but not the other one ... strange [09:28] the symlink /dev/root should be there automatically; i didn't set it up and it's present in my system [09:28] i'm pretty sure udev or something else sets it up for me [09:28] that's why i got all those issue .. gr [09:29] skepsi (n=kvirc@94.127.129.34) joined ##slackware. [09:29] yes rc.udev does it [09:30] Pat does it through udev [09:32] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-25-35-150.web.vodafone.de) left irc: "Leaving" [09:37] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:39] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.80.23) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Karu (n=alch@77-233-64-15.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [09:45] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:45] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [09:46] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.172) left irc: "Leaving." [09:46] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:48] fonseg (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.224) joined ##slackware. [09:49] is slackwiki.org dead? or was moved to somewhere? [09:50] fonseg: expired domain and being domain squated [09:50] it's down currently [09:52] are the documents kept anywhere? [09:52] i could host a temporary mirror [09:55] Is there a slackware port for embedded systems? [09:55] such as alix/wrap [09:55] umm armed slack maybe [09:56] geode sc1100 processor. [09:56] i'll check it out. thanks [09:56] http://freshmeat.net/projects/slakbootebs/ ? [09:56] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:57] Action: chee burrows [09:57] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:57] _HAKERA_ (n=LAMERIII@87-126-101-212.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:57] <_HAKERA_> hi [09:57] woot! thanks chee. exactly what I was looking for. [09:57] <_HAKERA_> can somebody help me [09:57] <_HAKERA_> connecting to wireless network? [09:57] Action: chee :D! [09:57] <_HAKERA_> i do [09:57] <_HAKERA_> iwlist wlan0 scan [09:57] mmhmm? [09:58] what does it say\ [09:58] <_HAKERA_> iwconfig wlan0 essid "_HAKERA_" key s:123456 [09:58] <_HAKERA_> _hakera_ with and without " [09:58] <_HAKERA_> but it returns [09:58] fonseg (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.224) left irc: "leaving" [09:59] <_HAKERA_> error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) [09:59] <_HAKERA_> set failed ot device wlan 0; invalid argument [09:59] that 's:' there [09:59] what's going on with it [10:00] <_HAKERA_> what? what u mean? [10:00] leave out that 's:' [10:00] try wep_key0=123456 [10:00] No chee [10:00] Guilherme92 (i=1001@187.64.52.248) joined ##slackware. [10:00] <_HAKERA_> ok. moment [10:00] hmm, i never had to use an s:, alienBOB [10:00] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] The s: is valid syntax [10:00] Look it up or read my wiki article [10:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:01] <_HAKERA_> it says uknown command [10:01] _HAKERA_: did you try an alphanum-only essid name? And the right command is 'iwlist wlan scanning', not 'scan' [10:01] <_HAKERA_> i`ll see alienBOB [10:01] <_HAKERA_> yes yes, it`s with words [10:02] <_HAKERA_> 123456 is only example :) [10:02] <_HAKERA_> iwlist wlan0 scanning [10:02] <_HAKERA_> return the same as iwlist wlan0 scan [10:03] <_HAKERA_> how must be essid? [10:03] <_HAKERA_> essid _hakera_ [10:03] <_HAKERA_> or [10:03] <_HAKERA_> essid "_hakera_" [10:03] example here for wep like i'm using in wpa_supplicant.conf [10:03] network={ [10:03] ssid="mynet2" [10:03] Channel flood from goenet -- kicking [10:03] key_mgmt=NONE [10:03] wep_key0="12345" [10:03] wep_tx_keyidx=0 [10:03] goenet kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:04] and thus goenet gets educated on the use of a pastebin. :) [10:04] goenet (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [10:04] haha [10:05] opty (n=opty@gw-oc5.erkor-oc.cz) left irc: "gtg" [10:05] goenet: next time use a pastebin :) [10:05] <_HAKERA_> alienBOB, this? http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php [10:05] it seems i did soomething wron [10:05] g [10:06] <_HAKERA_> goenet to edit my wpa_supp*? [10:06] Elektro_ (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Client Quit [10:07] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.144.93) joined ##slackware. [10:07] goenet (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Client Quit [10:08] goenet (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [10:08] does someone know any reason that a numeric keyboard may stop working? it's seem like im having at that option "xkb_layout" of xorg [10:09] im having problem' [10:09] * [10:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] goenet: you got auto kicked for flooding the channel, you need to use pastebin for more than 2 or 3 lines [10:09] what's paste bin [10:09] _HAKERA_: indeed, http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wireless_networks [10:10] goenet: http://pastebin.com/ [10:10] <_HAKERA_> 10x alienBOB [10:10] goenet: there are many but that is one of them. [10:11] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [10:11] thanks will have a look at it [10:11] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:11] you paste your text in the pastebin and then give the channel the link it provides [10:13] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8F38E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:19] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: "later." [10:19] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [10:19] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:23] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-133-113.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:24] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [10:25] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.2" [10:26] ok tested pastebin but didn't know that - thanks XGizzmo [10:27] _MaggoT_ (n=Newbie@125.161.192.128) joined ##slackware. [10:27] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:29] some other questions about slackware 13 [10:30] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A749F1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] when starting X as non root user, how do i set the login manager to use non us keyboard [10:30] greetings [10:30] usually i added a line to /etc/X11/xorg.conf with XkbLayout but now ...? [10:31] goenet, need to fiddle with the fdi file [10:32] /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy [10:32] and edit it to suit your needs. [10:32] how to use locate on slackware ? [10:33] goenet, if you want to do it the old way, you need some more flags in Xorg.conf I suggest you read CHANGES_AND_HINTS [10:33] mihaylov, hm? [10:34] thks I will try the new way .... [10:34] mihaylov, you have to run updatedb once if it hasn't run automatically yet [10:34] it says can not associate with slocate.db file [10:35] tnx klaasvakie [10:36] yeah, need to run updatedb once in a while [10:38] form slackbook "Note that incorrect iptables commands can essentially lock you out of your own machine. Unless you are 100% confident in your skills, always ensure you have local access to the machine." [10:38] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.92.21) joined ##slackware. [10:39] lol what that means , i will not be able to use my machine ? [10:39] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [10:40] it means, you can screw up iptables in such a way to you will have no more *remote* access [10:40] like, have it drop *all* packets, incoming or outgoing [10:41] it looks important [10:42] i can always reinstall slackware [10:42] <_MaggoT_> hmm someone know about this error : http://pastebin.com/d508ac6b3 ? [10:43] _MaggoT_, some non-fatal X error. happens all the time [10:44] slackytude, how to avoid locking my machine ? [10:44] mihaylov, don't fuck with iptables [10:45] <_MaggoT_> slackytude : how to fix that? i already use aticonfig --initial for fix my X server and test with glxgears all fine [10:45] mihaylov, but this is for remote access, like ssh. local access will work [10:45] mihaylov, it means, don't try stuff you are unsure of over ssh, because you might lock yourself out [10:45] <_MaggoT_> slackytude : but when trying to run my game use wine that error come again [10:45] obviously, if you have acess to the keyboard, it can be fixed :) [10:45] thrice`, aye ^-^ [10:46] _MaggoT_, so, X runs fine but a wine session crashes. does it take X with it? [10:47] i'm pleased to inform you all that i have successfully installed slackware 13.0 on AsusEee PC 4g surf 7" :D) [10:47] NaCl (n=NaCl@wireless-216.235.234.53.kinex.net) joined ##slackware. [10:47] pupit, nice ^-^ [10:48] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] :) [10:49] Karu (n=alch@77-233-64-15.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:50] are screwed iptables fixing themselfs on restart ? [10:50] unless you wrote them in a script, yes [10:51] mihaylov, I think you are missing the point :) [10:51] it's just saying, that you shouldn't mess with iptables without physical access to the machine [10:51] so, obviously if you are remoted into a machine over ssh, and you lock yourself out, you won't be able to restart it either [10:53] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [10:54] <_MaggoT_> slackytude : the problem fix, i going to re-install my ati driver then the game can run [10:55] <_MaggoT_> btw thx slackytude for reply my problem ^.^ [10:55] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:55] _MaggoT_, heh, dont mention it [10:55] Guilherme92 (i=1001@187.64.52.248) left irc: "Leaving" [10:56] <_MaggoT_> slackytude : im going re-install my ati driver for fix this http://pastebin.com/d508ac6b3 [10:57] _MaggoT_, hrm. that was recommended to you? [10:58] <_MaggoT_> slackytude : nope [10:58] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] goenet_ (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [10:59] _MaggoT_, I doubt re-installing ATI drivers will work. but good luck anyway [10:59] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.213.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:00] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-144.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:01] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:02] goenet (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:03] hi [11:03] again there [11:04] _MaggoT_ (n=Newbie@125.161.192.128) left irc: "Leaving" [11:05] ok changed policy for keybiard layout - thanks again slackytude [11:05] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:05] goenet_, np [11:06] slackware 13 is really cool [11:06] ^.^ [11:06] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] at the end no distro works out of the box like it should - so sticking with slackware seems the best to me [11:06] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:07] ubuntu works out of the box! [11:07] Action: Naraku is kidding [11:08] ubuntu is shit [11:08] ok but probably with cpufreq_ondemand [11:09] how does slackware not work out of the box, tho? [11:09] i have got many issues with my hv dv6500 laptop to get fan making acceptable noise [11:09] really, with slack13 even the HP printers in the office were automatically in CUPS. didnt have to do anything [11:10] sllackware is great and customizing to your needs can still be done [11:10] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] y0 andarius [11:10] greetings and salutations [11:10] slackytude ... that's what I said ... Slackware is great ! [11:10] salutations slackytude [11:10] hi [11:10] ) [11:11] ello [11:11] goenet_, ^-^ [11:11] still re-packaging novell software now to run on it [11:13] novell software? [11:13] matt__ (n=matt@142.162.21.35) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:13] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.92.21) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] yest novell management interfaces for zenworks, console1, imanager, ... [11:15] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [11:15] what is libgimm? it is listed on inkscape page on slackbuilds, but I can't find a package for libgimm. any ideas? [11:16] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-168.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:17] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/glibmm/ [11:17] Cryp71c (i=1000@c-68-53-104-165.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] Is there a 'glxinfo' for sound? [11:19] slackytude: glibmm = libgimm? [11:20] "Inkscape requires gc, gsl, libsigc++, glibmm, cairomm, pangomm, and gtkmm." 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[11:38] Which command do I have to use to see what sound card the system is useing? [11:38] lol, cryptic0 [11:39] Axius: lspci/lsusb [11:39] chee: :p [11:42] i want to configure my sound card. What packages I need to install? [11:42] lspci :) [11:42] try to type [11:42] alsaconf [11:44] I dont have the packages requierd? [11:45] Axius: alsaconf doesn't work? [11:45] no, it doesn't. [11:45] command not found: alsaconf [11:45] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-071.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Axius: did you install the package? Are you root? [11:46] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:46] Axius: ls /var/log/packages/*alsa* [11:46] win 13 [11:46] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] cannot access /var/log/packages/alsa: No such file or directory [11:47] I'm root. [11:47] Axius: I said *alsa* [11:47] Axius: note the *'s [11:48] no matches found: /var/log/packages/*alsa* [11:48] Axius: then you didn't install the packages. [11:48] Axius: go ahead and fetch them from your favourite mirror, or slackpkg [11:49] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Client Quit [11:49] What packages do I need to install? [11:49] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [11:50] yo* [11:50] alsa-lib, alsa-oss, alsa-utils [11:51] Axius: those three should be present. [11:51] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:51] is there graphic tool for managment wireless networks in slack 13.0? something like on windows? :) [11:51] ok, I'll install them with slackpkg. [11:52] stomanata, yep, it's called "wicd" [11:52] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) left irc: "("bye bye");" [11:54] I've installed them. [11:54] Axius: awesome. [11:54] stomanata: when it works, Network Manager is pretty good. No idea if there's a version of it in Slack though [11:55] the applet is in bed with gnome [11:55] 10x thrice` [11:55] i`ll test it [11:55] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:55] stomanata, are you on 32, or 64 bit? [11:56] mancha: There's a KDE version I believe [11:56] LSD`, when i type in google wicd it complete ubuntu, slack and so.... [11:56] 32 :) [11:56] LSD, does it not require polkit (ergo pam)? [11:56] LSD`: The KDE version is just a front end to NetworkManager which still requires Gnome [11:56] well .. Gnome libs [11:56] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Dominian: Ah, OK. I stay as far away from KDE as I can so I don't really know how it all works [11:57] stomanata, http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/extra/wicd/wicd-1.6.2.2-i486-1.txz [11:57] How to probe the sound card to see if is working? [11:58] LSD`, a good place to stay [11:58] [4a-52-4d] (n=rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:58] Axius: did you run alsaconf? Did it find your card? [11:58] [4a-52-4d] (n=rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-144.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:58] yes, it did. [11:58] isn`t better to compile it? [11:59] stomanata, no, it's just python [11:59] stomanata: compile what.. wicd is.. yeah what thrice` said [11:59] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] a ok [12:00] Dominian, i don`t know. still search info [12:00] ok. i`ll donwload and install [12:00] Axius: OK, run alsamixer, and turn up the volume. [12:00] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-079.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:00] Axius: then use mplayer, xine, or the app of your choice. [12:01] what does MM mean? [12:01] mued [12:02] muted* [12:02] How to unmuted? [12:02] Axius: m [12:02] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:02] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:03] stomanata (n=stomanat@87-126-101-212.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [12:04] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [12:04] i wish "man alsamixer" explained those things [12:05] stomanata (n=stomanat@87-126-101-212.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:05] wicd works fine :) [12:05] brb [12:06] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:07] bye - cu [12:07] goenet_ (n=cgoetz@80.89-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: "Leaving" [12:08] can i haz the mozilla security updates? [12:08] i wish more libraries would install their api docs as man pages [12:08] having to fire up the browser is so much more work than "\K" [12:08] one problem with manpages is gnu declared war on them... [12:08] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [12:09] i don't know why, info suck IMO [12:09] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [12:09] at least X keeps a set of man pages [12:09] so a big chunk of them these days have been hacked together (either from info) or else manually by folks at thelarger distribs [12:10] i'm not sure what their beef is, manpages are great [12:10] i agree [12:11] i think once you are used to the manpage formatting your eyes can pick out the juicy bits easier than with info [12:11] the lack of *bold* and spacing in info pages make it hard to extract the info i need [12:11] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:13] the good news is there are enough who think like us that manpages end up getting made, even if not by the principal [12:13] the bad news is that they are sometimes recycled and not really checked. for example, if you "man screen" on slackware you'd be none the wiser that there's a -T flag possible [12:13] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. 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[12:19] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Any suggestions? [12:22] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:22] wear glasses? :) [12:22] rofl [12:22] what video card Axius [12:23] hmmm, slight problem, upgraded to kde 4.3 and no icons... [12:23] spook: do you have oxygen-icons installed? [12:24] ah yes, they changed it slightly. [12:24] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [12:24] this is /etc/X11/xorg.conf file http://dpaste.com/115056/ [12:24] Nick change: _chopp -> chopp [12:24] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [12:25] Should I use ntpd to sync my clock or is ntpdate good enough? [12:25] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [12:26] this is my card VIA Technologies. [12:27] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [12:28] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:28] silent_contender, I usually call ntpdate once during boot and start ntpd afterwards [12:29] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [12:29] slackytude, so ntpdate then run ntpd in a rc script? [12:30] yeah [12:31] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] slackytude, and this a diy thing. No script floating around online? (Just making sure, before I go make one) [12:31] Can someone help me? [12:32] silent_contender, I did it meself, yes [12:32] silent_contender, AD is kinda anal about time [12:33] slackytude, AD? [12:33] active directory [12:33] the windows ldap thingy [12:33] slackytude, ah. [12:34] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [12:34] ilj (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) joined ##slackware. [12:34] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.40) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Axius, I just hit auto-adjust on my monitor, but I don't think your problem's that easy. [12:35] focus is bad on my monitor because of the dark theme. [12:35] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:37] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:37] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:37] nix4me (n=chopp@d75-158-1-81.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] I see only a black monitor with a wight box in the corner. [12:38] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.213.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:39] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h121n1fls302o1036.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:41] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. 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[13:17] jzaz (n=jzaz@ppp118-209-145-81.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:19] hello happy slackers [13:19] xjkx (n=xjkx@unaffiliated/xjkx) joined ##slackware. [13:19] i have a 300kbps network. I use NAT to share a connection with my notebook. But the tests on the Notebook(it uses the connection from my room's machine, shared by nat) have shown that I have only 113kbps, while in the server(machine on my room) i have 300kbps. How can I share the whole network speed ? The server is actually doing nothing than giving connection to my notebook, so there is no point for not giving the notebook the whole brandwith. [13:19] dngr (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:19] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:20] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[13:46] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x -> LinuxColonel [13:46] :) [13:46] snL20, doesn't exist, though i'm on a custom KERNEL [13:46] LinuxColonel, why is that funny? [13:46] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] thrice`: what version ? [13:47] 2.6.31.5 [13:47] cat /proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space [13:47] 1 [13:47] y0 slackytude|evil [13:48] slackytude|evil: nice :) [13:48] y0 fire|bird ^-^ [13:48] snL20, how so? [13:48] hey thrice` [13:48] hi :) [13:48] thrice`: Intel[R]VT-x is retarded, in case you didn't notice. [13:48] greetings thumbs [13:48] fire|bird: hola [13:48] I see the gang is coming in [13:48] mine too doesn't exists that file [13:48] I don't understand why people think using the word "colonel" instead of "kernel" is remotely funny [13:49] thrice`: some folks are easily amused. [13:49] A full bird kernel [13:49] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: Client Quit [13:49] slackytude|evil: address space randomization, protection against stack/heap etc overflows :) [13:50] thieusoai (n=thieusoa@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:50] The-spiki (n=spiki@195.178.35.40) joined ##slackware. [13:51] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [13:51] snL20, it doesn't protect against stack/heap overflows, it protects against overflow attacks! [13:51] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.80.127.250) joined ##slackware. [13:51] klaasvakie: dont be pedantic =) [13:51] hehe [13:52] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-133-113.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [13:52] snL20: I guess that there was something in the millw0rm [13:52] right ? [13:52] LinuxColonel: millw0rm ? heh [13:52] snL20: ignore him [13:52] I'm not that much smart but I guess [13:53] thumbs: heh ok :) [13:53] snL20: so any idea of sharing the exploit code ? [13:56] there was a enlightment DM exploit null reference DoS I think but there , something new right so you write it. wow nice [13:56] http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/ [13:57] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC31459.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:57] snL20, cool [13:58] snL20: it will be ice-coffe cool if you can write the exploit and share it with us :) [13:58] Action: LinuxColonel ice-coffee party [13:59] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:01] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] sigh, [14:02] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [14:03] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:04] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [14:04] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] i f-ing hate ubuntu [14:05] so many damn bugs and a pita upgrade [14:06] i never do updates ha [14:07] LinuxColonel: talking that way about wanting to get your hands on exploits is going to get you banned permanently in ##slackware [14:07] The-spiki (n=spiki@195.178.35.40) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:07] This is not a hacker channel [14:08] oky sorry about that [14:08] I will find a hacker friendly channel [14:08] no sorry cracker friendly [14:08] better luck next time [14:08] The-spiki (n=spiki@195.178.35.40) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:10] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:11] The-spiki: i have successfully installed slackware 13.0 on AsusEee :) [14:11] which model ? [14:12] 4g sruf 7" [14:12] surf* [14:12] bet that's awesome to watch movies on... [14:13] Action: LinuxColonel wonder why most distros have custom precompiled kernel for the eee PC's , may be a advertising trick :( [14:13] it's pretty cool :) [14:13] can gnome be installed in slackware? [14:13] Azeotrope: yes [14:13] LinuxColonel: some of those netbooks have wonky hardware [14:13] Mine doesnt [14:13] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:13] LinuxColonel, yeah i think so [14:14] LinuxColonel: for example, if you close the lid on an Acer AOD150 or AOD250, it causes an interrupt storm that does not stop until you shut down slackware [14:14] egregor (n=pas@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [14:14] i guess i'd rather just have a laptop [14:15] nix_chix0r: i think the netbooks are popular because they are cheaper [14:15] pi31415: for me it works fine [14:15] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:15] pi31415, i just think they are a waste of cash cheap or not [14:15] my laptop cost about 500 [14:15] and has a 12hr battery [14:16] pupit: after you close the lid, what do you see for %sy in top? [14:16] oh and a dvd drive [14:16] juan--d-1-b (n=Juan@190.165.26.181) joined ##slackware. [14:16] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:16] nix_chixor: my coworker got his netbook for 200 and he already has a USB optical drive [14:16] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:16] pi31415: it goes "suspend" as i want ;) ? [14:17] pupit: what model? [14:17] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [14:17] ... [14:18] pi31415: why are you so concerned about my net book? :) [14:18] pupit: i am just curious why it works for you and not for me [14:18] nix_chix0r: you mean 12 hours without the battery pack , the cost is more than 500 with the batteries [14:18] i'll tell you, because i read manuals a lot. [14:19] pupit: so do i [14:20] the non stock battery was 50bucks extra on to my laptop that was wordered for me [14:20] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [14:21] and it lasts 12 hrs not being plugged in. i get about 8 with use [14:21] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:22] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-126-188.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:24] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. 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[14:46] edman007 (n=edman007@24.188.168.243) joined ##slackware. [14:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@62.71.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [14:46] a1g (n=a1g@72.192.98.237) joined ##slackware. [14:46] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Excess Flood [14:46] may be it's good for change to my original nick , no chance to become a colonel :( bad day [14:46] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.176.178) joined ##slackware. [14:46] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Nick change: LinuxColonel -> Intel[R [14:46] Nick change: Intel[R -> Intel[R]VT-x [14:46] ABC [14:47] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [14:47] acidchild (n=ash@li88-140.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [14:47] alienBOB (n=alien@62.194.202.78) joined ##slackware. [14:47] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] welcome, all and sundry [14:47] nick collisionss [14:47] yea me too experience it [14:47] nix collisions [14:47] mass kill.. unknown reason.. its under investigation [14:47] przemoc (n=przemoc@89.72.161.94) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:48] przemoc (n=przemoc@89.72.161.94) joined ##slackware. [14:48] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Excess Flood [14:48] it sucks to experience it on a failing internet [14:48] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] I think somebody exploiting those BOTs , not me oky [14:48] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:48] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.82) joined ##slackware. [14:48] egregor (n=pas@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [14:48] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [14:48] Instained_Atom (n=BadAtom@badatom.org) joined ##slackware. [14:48] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:48] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] brixton (i=brixton@efnetwarrior.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] alienBlurb (i=3351@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-63-179.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[14:49] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] apoca (n=apoca@haydn.n2.nognu.de) joined ##slackware. [14:49] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] g4mm4 (n=var@81.20.132.64) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:49] however Dominian , nixchix0r that mean we are all mounted to a one server , others will experience it soon cos round ribbion IRC thing [14:50] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [14:50] dres (i=dresiwo@80.48.171.119) joined ##slackware. [14:50] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [14:50] sigh. [14:51] Yeah... [14:51] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-59-100-29-75.for.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [14:52] pireau (i=1000@208.92.18.96) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Nick change: dive -> Guest49656 [14:53] Nick change: rworkman -> Guest42686 [14:53] Nick change: Dominian -> Guest23748 [14:53] Nick change: a1g -> Guest5387 [14:53] Nick change: fire|bird -> Guest9685 [14:53] Nick change: edman007 -> Guest40855 [14:53] Nick change: fred_ -> Guest64521 [14:53] Mick_ (n=mick@81.64.34.22) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:53] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:53] waow [14:53] nick protection activated... [14:54] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [14:54] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC31459.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [14:54] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. 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[14:56] antler: mass kill [14:56] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:57] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:57] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [14:57] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [14:59] Nick change: Guest23748 -> Dominian [14:59] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:00] god this is irritating. the shares i set up in windows can be accessed from my slack box, but when i access a file on that share, slack keeps a copy of that file in a temp directory. is that normal? [15:00] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [15:00] inspiron630 (n=name@c-24-10-163-100.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-126-188.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: "leaving" [15:01] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Dominian is freenode staff? [15:01] Action: NaCl did not know that [15:02] can't you tell from the mass kill? [15:02] antler, you mean kde [15:03] slackytude|evil: i used konq to access the file, yeah [15:03] and, yeah, it's kept in a kde tmp directory [15:03] Nick change: Guest9685 -> fire|bird [15:04] antler, you could try smbfuse [15:04] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [15:04] Chakravanti (n=chunk@67.236.73.139) left irc: "Leaving" [15:04] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:04] slackytude|evil: have you used smbfuse? [15:05] yeah [15:05] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] it worked! [15:05] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:05] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:05] slackytude|evil: ok, thanks :) [15:05] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:05] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:05] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [15:05] antler, should be on sbo [15:06] y0 antler, how's it going? You still messing with sharing between slack and windows? :P [15:06] notice how only the heavy hitters were killed by a bug in a utility bot. i, for example, escaped death. [15:06] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/fusesmb/ [15:06] slackytude|evil: thank you :) [15:06] fire|bird: yeah, i got it working, but not quite the way i wanted [15:07] I have a question [15:07] it is unrelated to slackware though [15:07] where may I ask? [15:07] matsuura: is your mother home? [15:07] antler, I dont like the KDE way either [15:08] slackytude|evil: i can't stand it, man. some of the files i want to access are huge; so, having extra copies around is annoying [15:09] matsuura: offtopic questions are welcome here, if they don't get in the way of "on-topic" discussions [15:09] kk [15:09] and not only that.... it takes time to copy the file from the share. and i want instant satisfaction [15:09] my friend-girl likes to keep paying for things for me.. should I tell her to stop so I can pay from now on? :( [15:10] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:10] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] I feel guilty for telling her to stop but also guilty for not paying [15:10] because I feel it's my job [15:10] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:10] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:10] antler, yeah [15:11] antler, its just stupid [15:11] matsuura: don't you ever pay? [15:11] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Excess Flood [15:11] antler, especially since its so easy to do regular smb mounts [15:11] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] antler, I used smb4k before that will use sudo to map a whole network into a user path [15:12] antler, its for kde3 and in sbo 12 repo [15:12] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:12] I dont use it anymore but it worked well [15:12] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:12] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:12] slackytude|evil: anything special to be done with fusesmb? [15:13] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:13] xjkx (n=xjkx@201009121180.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:13] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:13] matsuura: if you never pay, or don't pay often enough, then it's a problem; if you do pay, or pay often enough, then there's no problem. [15:13] antler, not really, it is supposed to just work. you can give it some options in config file but it uses smb.conf for most stuff [15:13] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [15:14] matsuura: and time warp to the 21st century - it's not your job to pay for a woman friend. [15:14] matsuura, try to relaxed about it and talk to her [15:14] abou tit [15:14] err [15:14] about it [15:14] did i hear tit? [15:14] no, you didnt [15:14] haha [15:15] damn you freud [15:15] fire|bird, you use kde? [15:15] LnxSlck: I have, yeah, been using xfce for a few weeks. Have a question? [15:16] StevenR (n=foo@212.44.56.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:16] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.42.142) joined ##slackware. [15:16] fire|bird, i upgraded to kde4.3.2 [15:16] fire|bird, and the graphics don't look so good [15:17] there's black and blue corners on the windows [15:17] it looks funny [15:17] have an ss of it? [15:17] Compositing on? [15:17] NaCl, not sure [15:17] fire|bird, wait [15:17] fire|bird: no talk of nazi-related stuff here! [15:17] I've had the colors in KDE go nuts when I had compositing on here... [15:17] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) joined ##slackware. [15:17] LnxSlck: Also, what slack version, and did you build it yourself, use vbatts packages, -current? :) [15:17] NaCl, how to check composite on? [15:17] antler: hahaha [15:18] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:18] fire|bird, current, and i upgraded through slackpkg [15:18] LnxSlck: Kde menu, System Settings, Desktop. [15:18] LnxSlck: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:18] fire|bird, I stole the fedora wallpaper (one of the others) for my slacktop too :) http://omploader.org/vMm85ag [15:18] fire|bird, NaCl : yes composite is on [15:18] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:18] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:18] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:18] my flux capacitor needs cleaning [15:18] LnxSlck: try disabling it [15:18] LnxSlck: turning it off may help [15:19] thrice`: nice, that's the one I set on Fedora last night. I wonder why the drastic change in artwork. [15:19] thrice`: that the wallpaper in F12? [15:19] NaCl: one of them, yes. [15:19] NaCl, done, can someone send me a SS of a working kde 4.3.2 desktop? [15:20] fire|bird: where would I get them? [15:20] antiwire: in the way that knobs need to be polished? [15:20] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.59.21) left irc: Operation timed out [15:20] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x_ -> Intel[R]VT-x [15:20] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:21] antiwire: need to 95 instead of 88? [15:21] NaCl, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Artwork/Final_Refresh_Process [15:21] slackytude|evil: so what did you use to access/browse the shares after fusesmb? [15:22] thrice`: I had 226 updates waiting when I booted to it, was done in about 30 minutes. :P They sure changed the wallpaper. [15:22] thrice`: yours looks more shiny than that one. [15:22] haha, thanks [15:22] NaCl, it's one of those links [15:22] F12-rain9 I think [15:23] yes [15:23] https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/26/F12-rain9.png [15:23] some of them are even clearer [15:24] thrice`: It looks like those are set like Fedora's done before, it shows brighter to darker versions depending on the time of day. [15:24] LnxSlck: probably something like this: http://kde.org/announcements/4.3/images/kde430-desktop.png [15:24] It didn't change much. [15:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [15:24] http://files.myopera.com/clean/files/bizarromedusa.jpg [15:24] damn slackwiki is no more [15:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:25] antler, you just use fusesmb /montpoint and all stuff should be in /mntpoint [15:25] Naraku: It will be back eventually. [15:25] phew! all better. That dirty flux capacitor was making me be a whole hour ahead! 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[15:28] http://philosecurity.org/2009/03/23/pirates-and-ninjas-emacs-or-vi [15:28] slackytude|evil: k :) [15:28] ninjas use vi, pirates emacs [15:28] thrice`: I seen in your ss the battery monitor, mine has been missing for a while, any idea for how to get it back? [15:28] y0 agentc0re [15:28] Sn0oP (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:28] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:28] fire|bird, eek, not sure. I'm on x-p-m 0.8.4 [15:29] thrice`: same here [15:29] MUCH nicer than that in stock slackware, but you need libnotify as a dep [15:29] yup, have that [15:29] and xfce4-power-manager is running? [15:30] in the prefs, I have "When battery is present" for System Tray icon [15:30] I have it set for always [15:30] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:30] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@93.68.241.243) left irc: "byez" [15:31] thrice`: I seems to be running, yeah. I have the brightness plugin on the panel, and when I hover over that, it says No Device Found. [15:31] It* [15:31] o__O [15:31] That's not a good sign. :/ [15:32] slackytude|evil: bill joy is a ninja? [15:32] I guess that sort of explains it then, now, what's causing it? :P [15:33] fire|bird, not really :) maybe worse [15:33] haqe18 (n=emma@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:33] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:33] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:33] oss4 is lovely :3 [15:33] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:33] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:34] chee looks like a walrus when he smiles :) [15:34] <:3 [15:34] a walrus wearing a dunce hat? [15:34] NaCl, yes, not how he cunningly covers the poised dagger [15:34] note [15:34] i'm a pretty silly walrus [15:34] thrice`: restarting power manager doesn't do anything either. I tried the --display option and it says it can't open it. [15:34] i can't even spell d [15:35] slackytude|evil: indeed. [15:35] What about pirate ninjas and ninja pirates? [15:35] my mother just showed me a photograph of a friend of mine [15:36] NaCl, more funding is needed to answer that one [15:36] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-153-102.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:37] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] we need more overlords [15:37] Action: chee lords over you [15:37] stomanata (n=stomanat@87-126-101-212.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:37] fire|bird, hm, sorry, no clue :( I've never had it fail to spawn the icon [15:37] hi again [15:37] thrice`: Well, I have. :P [15:37] may be my big problem is in "key" [15:37] iwconfig wlan0 key s:123456789 [15:37] Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : [15:37] SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument. [15:38] how to fix this? [15:38] strankan (n=strankan@c-decd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:38] try to add " " [15:38] but Im not sure [15:38] have you tried wicd? [15:39] yes yes, wicd work fine :) [15:39] but i try "hard" console method :p [15:39] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-63-167.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:39] why! [15:40] if it works leave it alone and step away! [15:40] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:40] for pain and profit [15:40] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:40] " don`t fix :( [15:40] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:40] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [15:40] mmmmm i don`t know exactly why, but it`s interesting for me [15:41] i can`t sleep if it don`t start to work :p [15:42] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:42] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-59-100-29-75.for.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:42] it`s joke, but i`m wondered why it don`t wokr... [15:43] something very little is the mistake! 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[15:58] wow went to freenode chat to joke and the turd muted me [15:58] Nick change: julioc|zzz -> julioc [15:58] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:58] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:59] beluga (n=ndv@62.122.105.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:00] :( but i'm lovely [16:00] klaasvakie (n=johann@vc-41-29-121-62.umts.vodacom.co.za) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:01] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:01] chee, the only thing you're lovely at is fellating other men [16:01] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:01] or however it says [16:01] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware ("#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)"). [16:01] or spelled or phrased [16:02] i am pretty good [16:02] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:02] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.176.178) left irc: "Leaving." [16:03] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.176.178) joined ##slackware. [16:06] dErFz827 (i=derf@buckets.of.bukkake.sex.with.dominant.federalagent.info) joined ##slackware. [16:07] chee: she was probably shocked. [16:07] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:07] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:07] she's in love with me anyway [16:07] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:08] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:08] she's nearly kissed me about 40 times [16:08] 40 times that i've been surprised and anguished to discover that I have morals [16:08] slackytude|foo (n=slacky@p54A749F1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.42.142) joined ##slackware. [16:09] but it's all a learning curve, i now release my moral code under WTFPL [16:09] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [16:09] dErFz827 (i=derf@buckets.of.bukkake.sex.with.dominant.federalagent.info) left ##slackware. [16:09] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:23] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:23] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [16:24] Trying to install filezilla but running into problems. [16:24] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-63-167.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "#20" [16:24] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:24] It is saying, "The libgnutls-config script installed by LIBGNUTLS could not be found" [16:25] and ? [16:25] is gnutls installed? [16:25] But I have gnutls-2.8.4-i486-1_slack12.1 installed [16:26] Also says, "If LIBGNUTLS was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in your path, or set the LIBGNUTLS_CONFIG environment variable to the full path to libgnutls-config. [16:26] Not sure where to look for LIBGNUTILS_CONFIG environment variable. [16:27] or..... ? [16:27] Any clues? [16:27] mm, can you post the config.log ? [16:28] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:28] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:28] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:28] I'll try, but am using slackbuild script and not sure where the config.log would be. [16:28] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:28] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:28] let me try myself. on slackbuilds.org ? [16:29] er, from * [16:29] yes. [16:29] slackbuilds.org [16:29] and, you have wxGTK or wxPython ? [16:31] usr13: you are on slackware 12.1? [16:32] Yes [16:32] I also tryed to install on a 12.2 system, (my laptop) but failed there too. [16:32] that's the same version as on 13.0 [16:33] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [16:34] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:34] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:34] dorin_ro (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [16:34] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:34] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:34] hy all [16:35] sure enough, I get the same error. I think the filezilla on SBo is b0rked [16:36] does linux supor my WEBCAM ( it is a A4TECH) ? [16:36] slackytude|foo (n=slacky@p54A749F1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] usr13, try version 3.2.8.1 - that just built fine here [16:37] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.80.127.250) left irc: "leaving" [16:38] or,what webcam shoud I buy ? [16:38] thrice`: Ok thanks. [16:39] 3.2.8.1 built fine here as well [16:40] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:40] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:41] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:41] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@138.195.146.188) joined ##slackware. [16:44] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:45] thrice`: Installing gnutls ... [16:45] it looks like the old version of gnutls came with libgnutls-config but the new version doesn't [16:45] why? you should already have it [16:46] in fact, you showed me that you did ;) [16:46] File: gnutls-2.8.4.tar.bz2 [16:47] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-59-38.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:47] 16:25 usr13| But I have gnutls-2.8.4-i486-1_slack12.1 installed [16:47] delt0r__ (n=delt0r@62.47.138.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:47] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] Oh, I have it too. [16:47] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] gnutls-2.8.4-i486-1_slack12.1 [16:48] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:48] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [16:49] Well, I'm getting error: libgnutls 2.0.4 or greater was not found. [16:50] "You may want to get it from ftp://ftp.gnutls.org/pub/gnutls/" [16:50] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:50] ok, i'm saying, the version of filezilla you are building is broken, try the newer version [16:51] dorin_ro (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] so, don't touch gnutls, but try bumping filezilla to 3.2.8.1 [16:51] Oh, I had both versions in there.. so [16:51] hey, is it weird for a girl to drive a guy around? [16:52] matsuura: no [16:52] anyone know how I left this channel 2 hours and 9 minutes ago? [16:52] Which version did you get? [16:52] matsuura, not really [16:52] even if the guy doesn't drive? [16:52] Oh I see... [16:52] sorry [16:52] usr13, sorry, I'm not sure how to make this more clear. keep your version of gnutls. change the version of filezilla to 3.2.8.1 [16:52] 3.2.8.1 [16:53] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] Camarade_Tux: freenode bot took a dump [16:53] alisonken1home: I saw that but I only left this channel, seemed weird [16:53] oh, I see all the nick collision from syn. ;-) [16:54] errr, actually I left all other channels without noticing it :D [16:54] 15:04 [freenode] -tomaw(i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw)- [Global Notice] Hi all, as you will have noticed a rather large percentage of our users were just killed by a bug in a utility bot. We've taken it offline and are investigating the cause. Sorry for the inconvenience! Please direct questions to #freenode as staff are a little swamped! [16:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[16:58] mancha: yes [16:58] thanks [16:58] tmkd: rpm is an unsupported package system on slack - as matsuura notes, "rpm2tgz" will convert the package, but not always properly [16:58] what am i thinking now? [16:58] but my slack have some rpm command [16:58] mancha: of mommy-daddy button [16:59] it might be best to wait for the actual question heh. tmkd, what's your question [16:59] lol [16:59] oki will convert [16:59] tmkd: what package are you trying to install? [16:59] why not decompress and install to the right locations? [16:59] tmkd, yes, but it's not recommended, and should be used as a last-resort type scenario. which app ? [16:59] lol [16:59] GraphicsMagick [16:59] *which [16:59] Camarade_Tux, i will convert. thanks [16:59] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:59] I can't mount my iphone because of this error: mount: /dev/bus/usb/002/010 is not a block device [17:00] lol [17:00] How do I access the pictures on it? [17:00] hmm [17:00] redtricycle: you have to google iphone and linux - it's not pretty [17:00] redtricycle: lsusb? [17:00] mount /dev/sd ? [17:00] err, lsscsi [17:01] something, idk [17:01] or fdisk -l [17:01] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:01] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:01] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:01] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [17:01] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [17:01] obviously that won't work so easy with an iPod [17:01] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.153.119) left irc: Client Quit [17:01] works with my iPod perfectly fine [17:01] Camarade_Tux: yes, I have a udev hooked up [17:01] o_o [17:01] or iPhone. apple doesn't like you to use anything outside of itunes [17:01] to symlink the block device... [17:02] I know about syncing, but at least -- the pictures? [17:02] thrice`++ [17:02] the iphone should look like a camera [17:02] matsuura, which ipod? [17:02] my wife has an ipod touch, and the googleing I looked at that had both ipod and iphone were not inspiring (think Apple and true open source - not) [17:02] classic [17:02] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-117.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] you can mount an ipod classic as a mass-storage usb? [17:02] yeah [17:03] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A749F1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] you can also access the data I guess (even though it's organized as crap), write is different... [17:04] I fin that very hard to believe :) ipod classics are locked with a checksum [17:04] just read [17:04] Camarade_Tux, saw sinfest? [17:04] jhw (n=jhw@p548F3997.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] just a sec ;-) [17:05] I like the sunday ones [17:05] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.40.99) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:05] slackytude|evil: hahaha :P [17:06] http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods might be your best bet [17:07] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:08] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:09] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. 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[17:28] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] alt + left, alt + right [17:28] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-117.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:29] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:29] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:29] it doesn't work too [17:29] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [17:29] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [17:29] uh [17:29] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.115) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:29] metrofox, sorry, mate. I use xchat [17:30] slackytude|foo: ;) [17:30] metrofox: alt+right/left, /win X [17:30] Camarade_Tux: already done... Nothing changes :) [17:30] metrofox: maybe because we have letters for that [17:30] i use /bind meta-- leftwindow and /bind meta-= right_window [17:31] in irssi that is [17:31] metrofox: "/win 1" does nothing? [17:31] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:31] Camarade_Tux: nope [17:31] left_window rather [17:31] metrofox: weird [17:31] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.249) joined ##slackware. [17:31] that's a rather smart annoucement, re: syn on freenode [17:31] Camarade_Tux: yeah [17:31] are you in console or a terminal? ive noticed xfce's terminal likes to internet with alt+# [17:32] stygian: I'm using Terminal [17:32] internet? interfere. 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[18:02] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:02] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:02] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:02] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:03] fx_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:03] heyas. [18:03] thrice`, there? [18:03] anyone would have extensive knowledge about lilo 22.8? [18:04] tried everything last night, even using UUIDs in both lilo.conf and in the /etc/fstab [18:05] I think the problem might be due to the fact that I'm trying to boot off an USB key and that I have to pass a rootdelay=20 to lilo. [18:05] Nick change: julioc -> julioc|zzz [18:06] however even when nothing but the USB disk is plugged in, doing an append = "root=UID=aaaabbbbbcccdddetc" makes it an epic fail. [18:08] so, either a) UUIDs aren't supported at this point or b) neither adding an UUID to the global lilo config or within the target partition section seems acceptable. [18:08] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] or c) I'm just plain stupid, unlucky, whatever. [18:08] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-232-223.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:09] can i put an ip on a interface and ADD another via dhcp? [18:09] i get the feeling dhcpc(d|lient) will remove the other ip [18:09] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:09] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:09] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:09] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:09] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:10] acidchild: only using interface alias [18:10] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:11] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] alienBOB: eth0:1 ? type thing [18:12] run dhcpclient first then add another ip afterwards? mmm that leaves me without an cross over cable recovery [18:12] Indeed, eth0:1 thing [18:12] greetings gentlemen [18:12] dhcpcd eth0 ; ip addr add 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 [18:13] wonder how i do that the other way around, you can make a empty network interface alias? [18:14] hmm - testing GoogleEarth with fred's 32-bit compat installed and my desktop locked up [18:14] i'm trying to install the OOo slackbuild, i' dl the x86_64 version (regarding the given openoffice.info ) , but the slackbuild scritp failed saying "/home/sidh/builds/openoffice.org/OOo_3.1.1_LinuxIntel_install_fr.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory [18:15] good thing I had my laptop to ssh in and kill X [18:15] alienBOB: ip addr add xx.xx.xxx.xx dev eth0 ; **make eth0:1**?? ; dhclient eth0:1 [18:15] anyone for my problem? [18:15] ? [18:15] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] where as it should be OOo_3.1.1_LinuxX86-64_install_wJRE_fr.tar.gz [18:15] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:15] so why does it detect Intel instead of x86_64 [18:16] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-004.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] same for "with JRE" i installed JRE , so why doest it detect it ? [18:17] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:17] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:17] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:17] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:19] that's ok i pass the good env_vars before the running the slackbuild script, that 's ok now [18:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:22] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [18:22] acidchild: you can not "make" an ip alias. Just assign an IP address to eth0:1 or run dhcpcd on it [18:23] yah, i guess i gotta use eth0 for dhcp and add my backup ip on to eth0:1 [18:23] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:23] Action: acidchild really dislikes network alias [18:23] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:23] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:24] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:24] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-126-188.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:25] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [18:27] anyone available for my lilo problem? [18:27] Just state your issue [18:27] fully stated just above. [18:28] the USB key which the system is installed onto keeps having it's /dev/sd* name switched around [18:28] tried using UUID's that was a no-no. [18:29] what is it you expect to happen and what is happening [18:30] okay when the system got installed the USB key was seen as /dev/sda [18:30] so the system got installed on /dev/sda1, lilo.conf and fstab set accordingly. [18:30] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:30] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:30] however when I plug in my 12 drives.. [18:30] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:30] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:30] it becomes /dev/sdl1 and fails with a VFS: Kernel panic [18:31] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:31] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-141.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:31] so I boot off the slack CD again, mount the USB key and edit the lilo.conf to set to /dev/sdl1 accordingly [18:31] heh [18:32] sidh, change your arch to x86_64 :) [18:32] and when I run lilo it gives me a can't stat /dev/sdl1 because it's seen as /dev/sda1 when booting off the slack CD. [18:32] The UID= syntax should work in lilo.conf. But why the cumbersome append line? [18:32] alienBOB, lilo doesn't seem to take it in consideration anyways.. [18:32] i thought lilo.conf required it for uuid ? [18:32] Just use root="UID=aaabbbccc..." [18:33] It should accept that [18:33] alienBOB, where though? [18:33] in the global lilo conf or the Linux section? [18:33] Where you usually have root=/dev/sda1 [18:33] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] I.e. in the "linux section" [18:33] I tried. [18:33] fails. [18:34] still getting a VFS: kernel panic [18:34] fx_: you did use "UUID" not "UID" right? [18:34] right [18:35] that was a typo when explaining here [18:35] OK good [18:35] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] imimimimi (n=imimimi@CPE-124-184-80-89.lns13.cht.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [18:36] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-132.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] hi, is there a netinst image for slackware similar to debian, so i can install on an embedded system with limited storage (can't store 6DVDs worth of packages on it!) [18:37] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:37] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:37] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:37] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:38] alienBOB, is there a way to do this like with udev or anything like that? [18:38] (not that I'm an expert with udev though, just asking) [18:38] 6 dvd's? last I checked, there was 6 cd's but only 1 dvd [18:39] imimimimi ^^^^ [18:39] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:39] alisonken1home, maybe you are right.. but still I only have 1 GB to work with so i couldn't fit even 6cds [18:39] and yes, slackware has a netinstall - using nfs as the default [18:39] imimimimi, http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [18:39] alisonken1home, do they provide a server or must i set up my own nfs? [18:40] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] you can point it at a mirror for http/ftp, but a local mirror is best [18:40] imimimimi: obviously, you must have a shared nfs resource somewhere on the network if using nfs - but as thrice` noted, check the install instructions for http/ftp install as well [18:40] ah ok. because the documentation i have read on the internet all seems about setting up your own package server [18:41] agentc0re: ping .. http://www.webwine.com/r/products/ozeki-karatamba <-- very nice sake :D [18:41] ok thanks [18:42] imimimimi: Slackware does not host package repositories for netinstall - for distribution we rely on frienly mirrors. The mirror admins may not like it when people start running netinstalls from their servers, that is why we advise to use your own local mirror [18:42] thrice`, I'm actually thinking of doing that as well to reinstall the slackware on the USB stick just use ftp/http to grab the slack packages but from what I've read I'd need at least a linux machine on my lan with dhcpd and a bunch of other services to get the pxe to boot and all I've got are windows machines. :-p [18:43] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:43] fx_: Slackware can use a Samba server too, as a package source (as well as nfs/http/ftp) [18:43] alienBOB, i see [18:43] imimimimi: I've done an nfs install by exporting my cd/dvd from a separate machine, so you don't need to setup your own mirror, just make the packages available [18:43] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [18:43] No need for a PXE server if your computer can boot from a USB stick [18:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] alienBOB, it can. [18:43] alienBOB, but I'm totally puzzled. [18:43] however - you still need a pxe server to boot if you go that route :) [18:44] and I don't have one. [18:44] can I run it as a service off a win32 workstation on the lan? :-p [18:44] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:44] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:44] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:44] alisonken1home: no, why would you need that? [18:44] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:44] boot from usb stick, install the minimum packages, then after install, use slackpkg to add the rest of the stuff [18:44] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:44] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:45] fx_: a Windows share counds as a Samba server share as far as the installer is concerned [18:45] alienBOB: pxe typically means you have your kernel/rootfs images and using dhcp server to get your system up [18:45] alisonken1home, thing is as soon as I add more drives to the destination system the USB stick /dev/sda becomes /dev/sdwhatever [18:45] alisonken1home: we are talking booting from a USB stick. No need for a PXE server then [18:45] can someone kill me [18:45] Sure [18:45] alienBOB: that's why I made the distinction between pxe and usb [18:45] computers are not liking me this week [18:46] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:47] pxe is to boot a remote kernel no? [18:47] thanks for the help guys. i have a lot of learning to do [18:47] imimimimi (n=imimimi@CPE-124-184-80-89.lns13.cht.bigpond.net.au) left irc: [18:47] i try to isntall windows 7, and it says "lol you dont have any drivers", so i download ubuntu (its for my wifes compy) and i try to install it, but it freezes when i try to install it, so now i'm trying to burn ubuntu again on my slack machine, and k3b freezes when it gets to 99% written [18:47] jonsmith1982: yes [18:47] pxe is to network boot in general [18:47] Reticenti: bad hardware? [18:47] pxe is how I used to test routing stuff on a geode board [18:47] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [18:48] straterra: k3 is freezing and growisofs is using all my cpu power [18:48] Reticenti: what version of slackware? [18:48] 13 [18:48] So? [18:48] Could still be bad hardware [18:48] true [18:48] well i said victory too early, even if jre, jdk installed well, openoffice 3 compiled and installed well, when i lauch openoffice3 (or soffice) i get this error : "/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: line 79: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/bin/javaldx: cannot execute binary file" but what is strange is that javaldx file is in 755 mode "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14K 2009-08-19 11:02 javaldx", any idea ? [18:49] and now, if i want to burn a new disc, i have to go to school to burn it because my other compy doesnt have an OS on it because ubuntu deleted my partitions then fails [18:49] sidh: that's also the error you get when you have mismatched binary - like 32-bit binary on 64-bit only system [18:49] alienBOB, does this look "ok" to you?: http://paste2.org/p/494466 [18:50] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:50] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:50] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:51] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:51] had a syntax error had to add quotes " " around the UUID=e59c325b-3643-4074-8733-8e56c3064274 on line 31. [18:51] proper is http://paste2.org/p/494467 [18:52] alisonken1home: i dowlnloaded tha slackbuild , i retrieve the OOo x86_64 french version [18:52] dorin_ro (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:52] what is wrong [18:52] ? [18:53] alienBOB, beep? :-p [18:53] except the jre/jde that are i586, on the sets (didn't find any x86_64 version, do you think it could be the reason ? [18:53] sidh: not sure - have to see if someone else is available since I need some sleep before I head to work in a few hours [18:53] if you installed the x86 and not th ex86_64 jre/jde, then that could do it as well [18:54] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-004.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:54] oh well, rebooting let's see if it works by using UUIDs. [18:54] mgood sleep alisonken1home [18:55] fx_: the UUID=xxx needs double quotes around it [18:55] alienBOB, that's done. [18:55] I.e. root = "UUID=xxxxxxx" [18:55] 31. root = "UUID=e59c325b-3643-4074-8733-8e56c3064274" [18:55] fixed in http://paste2.org/p/494467 [18:55] it's booting up. [18:55] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:55] does someone know if installing the intel version instead of the x86_64 version of OOo could solve my problem ? [18:56] sidh, you need the x86_64 version [18:56] thrice`: that is the version i dowloaded [18:56] alienBOB, failed. [18:57] thrice`: then i ran the build like that : ARCH=x86_64 WJRE=yes OOLANG=fr ./openoffice.org.SlackBuild [18:57] VFS: Cannot open root device "UUID=xxxxxxxx" or unknown-block(0,0) [18:57] fx_: errors errors [18:57] Hm [18:57] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:57] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:57] Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions: [18:57] then it lists them. [18:57] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:57] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [18:58] been stuck on this sh!t for nearly two days now, I don't get it. [18:58] sidh: I've been using OO for ages and not once have I installed it using a SlackBuild, OO release perfectly good binary versions that can be installed easily and then uninstalled when upgrading [18:59] UUIDs passed to the /etc/fstab are fine, just not to /etc/lilo.conf [18:59] and that's lilo 22.8 right there, aka the version every slacker out there uses. [18:59] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.153.119) left irc: "+-||\-" [19:00] I even tried append = "root=UUID=xxx" in the linux partition section [19:01] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:01] even tried "root=UUID=xxx" in the main section to the append after the rootdelay=10. [19:01] you've tried that since simplifying your setup ? [19:01] yeap [19:01] last night you had 14 disks or something rediculous [19:01] only one drive is in as we speak. [19:01] and that's /dev/sda = USB stick [19:02] it just seems like lilo refuses to use UUIDs _at all_. [19:03] even digged this up: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/devdiskby-uuid-on-install-disk-652261/ [19:03] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.213.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:04] 232 fx what fs on USB stick? [19:04] ext2. [19:04] JamesBling (n=JamesBli@ip-112-199-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:04] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:04] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:04] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:05] fx_, in lilo.conf, have you tried root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/blah-blah [19:05] no [19:05] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [19:05] can you "assist" me in trying that method accordingly to my current lilo.conf? http://paste2.org/p/494467 [19:06] actually, not really. I've never tried using uuid with lilo personally - I only know it's possible [19:07] well if you type "lilo uuid" in google, 90% of the results that come up are like "lilo cannot use uuid" [19:07] WildWizard: when i try to reun directly the setup script inside the binary version of OOo, i get this error : ./setup: line 271: usr/java/jre1.6.0_16/bin/unpack200: cannot execute binary file [19:07] but these are relatively old pages from 2007.. [19:07] fx_, bullshit, recent versions work just fine [19:07] fx_: "man lilo.conf" and search for the string UUID [19:07] sidh: you don't use their script you just convert the RPM's into tgz's and use intallpkg on them [19:08] Urchlay, as if I haven't tried that already.. [19:08] sidh: just don't install the jave one if it's in there [19:08] fx_: did you try the part where it says "the argument to root= must be enclosed in quotation marks"? [19:08] do you think it could be because i installed the i586 version of jre, whereas it the x86_64 version of OOo [19:09] Urchlay, what do you mean? [19:09] root="UUID=xxx" [19:09] quotation marks around the argument, see? [19:09] so that's "root="UUID=xxx"" then? [19:09] WildWizard: i 'm not sure to understand , do i have to removepkg jre and jdk ? [19:09] sidh: if you installed anything i586 / i686 on a 64bit version of slackware that part of the system will now be stuffed and require removal and reinstallation of the effected parts [19:09] double quotes? [19:09] looks that way, yes [19:10] apologies if I'm telling you something you already know [19:10] ok , so is it possible to install jre and jdk in 64 bit version ? [19:10] slackware provides a jre package why not use that sidh ? [19:11] sidh: you don't need the jdk for OO to work and Slackware already has a good jre [19:11] Urchlay, uhm it's already set that way.. [19:11] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:11] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:11] WildWizard: in the sets it is only for i586 version iirc [19:11] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:11] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:11] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.38) joined ##slackware. [19:11] fx_: OK, so that isn't the problem. I was just looking at what you typed earlier: even tried "root=UUID=xxx" <---- it wouldn't work like that [19:12] fx_: a double quote is " ... a single quote is ' ... the root=... line only needs two " [19:12] sidh, also, the 64-bit OOo slackbuild removes those java items [19:12] root="UUID=xxx" [19:12] sidh: if your java environment is now having problems remove and java packages and then install the Slackware jre again [19:12] alienBOB, I know, just english language issues. [19:12] Yeah [19:12] and/any [19:12] No problem [19:13] fx_, how are you issuing the lilo command? from a separate installation? [19:13] jonsmith1982, no I have to boot off the CD everytime.. [19:14] WildWizard: on sets , the only jre i have is this one : slackware/l/jre-6u16-i586-1.txz [19:14] the chroot and stuff? [19:14] than* [19:14] sidh, you're on slackware64 ? [19:14] jonsmith1982, no just bootin on CD and doing hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= rw rootdelay=10 [19:15] then the system boots up [19:15] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [19:15] TheTrash: Linux iXsys 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:52:54 CDT 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [19:15] sidh: you're on 64bit, right? http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-13.0/slackware64/l/jre-6u16-x86_64-1.txz [19:15] ohhh i686 ..... [19:15] sidh, ok, why are you trying to install 64-bit openoffice ? [19:16] sidh: your kernel is only 32bit [19:16] lol [19:16] i really am sorry i was sure to have installed the 64 bits version on that machine [19:16] uname -a [19:16] ;) [19:16] JustBe (n=tiagogom@ipatinga.lps.ufrj.br) joined ##slackware. [19:16] wrong terminal. Blah. [19:16] hey averaging|diagnostic [19:16] how do I print the label of an ext2 partition? [19:16] er Urchlay [19:17] haha Urch [19:17] hey, refuses|bangles [19:17] Nick change: JustBe -> JustBe` [19:17] sidh: if your system was running a 64 bit kernel you would have x86_64 and not i686 [19:17] TheTrash: sorry for HL it is an error, but that is the destination i should go into [19:17] to set it it's tune2fs -L desiredname /dev/sda1 [19:17] .msg nickserv identify devtty01 [19:17] fx_: I bet "fdisk -l" will show them [19:17] argh [19:17] but to see it? [19:17] k [19:17] fdisk -l dosn't show the labels [19:18] ok, I'm wrong [19:18] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.255) joined ##slackware. [19:18] cfdisk? [19:18] cfdisk worked k [19:18] JustBe` (n=tiagogom@unaffiliated/justbe/x-000001) left ##slackware. [19:18] tune2fs can change it [19:18] sidh: if you look just to the left of the CPU identifier you will see the currently used architecture in 'uname -a' [19:18] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:18] yeah I change it with tune2fs [19:18] tune2fs -L desiredname /dev/sda1 [19:19] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:19] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:19] gonna try to tell lilo to boot based on the LABEL rather than the UUID [19:19] or you can "uname -m" to get just that piece of information [19:19] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:19] and if its still not working then fuck it. [19:19] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:19] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] bugeye (n=bugeye@rrcs-64-183-34-242.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:19] fx_: good idea [19:20] booting by label, I mean (not the "fuck it" part...) [19:20] mm, there is also an e2label [19:21] JustBe` (n=tiagogom@unaffiliated/justbe/x-000001) joined ##slackware. [19:21] inspiron630 (n=name@c-24-10-163-100.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:25] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-63-167.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:25] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:25] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:25] Cannot open root device "LABEL=BOOT" on unknown-block(0,0) [19:25] ... [19:25] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:25] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:25] I am SERIOUSLY pissed. [19:26] does just /dev/sda1 work with your new configuration ? [19:26] no [19:26] is kde 4.3.2 any better or is it wack? [19:27] because when adding the 12 drives, /dev/sda1 becomes /dev/sdl1 [19:27] dchmelik, that's a retarded question [19:27] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Client Quit [19:27] fx_, yes, I'm saying, with only 1 drive, will /dev/sda1 work ? [19:27] yes it will. [19:27] if not, it might be something other than lilo.conf [19:27] yes it will/does work. [19:27] it *should*, but you've tested that? [19:27] I did. [19:27] that's how I boot it up. [19:27] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:28] ok [19:28] well, you've done that without using a liveCD? [19:28] I'm curious if lilo is installing properly [19:28] lilo "seems" to only accept /dev/sd*1 as valid root= option. [19:28] refuses UUIDs, refuses LABELs. [19:29] going to have to slap in there a classic 20GB dinosaur HDD I have here as /dev/hda and boot off it. [19:30] that's the only way out I can think of. [19:30] that, or try a netinstall. [19:30] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:31] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:31] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:31] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:33] fx_, read the most recent release note near the top? http://freshmeat.net/projects/lilo/ [19:34] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:36] jonsmith1982, reading what the nodevcache does.. [19:36] but doesnt seem to be related.. [19:36] Nick change: Guest40855 -> edman007 [19:37] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:39] reading http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/en/man5/lilo.conf.5.html [19:40] bugeye (n=bugeye@rrcs-64-183-34-242.west.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:42] nodevcache doesn't help it [19:42] gonna try root=current [19:42] see if it fixes it [19:42] byteframe (n=bytefram@71.174.2.9) left irc: Client Quit [19:42] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-2-9.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:43] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@nmd.sbx08970.madiswi.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:48] root=current made it bootable. [19:48] now let's see what happens if I start adding drives. [19:49] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:49] argh --- http://mulix.livejournal.com/84768.html spells it out [19:49] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:49] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:49] we need an initrd for it to work [19:49] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:50] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [19:52] slackytude|foo (n=slacky@p54A738A7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:52] thieusoai (n=thieusoa@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: "leaving" [19:54] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:54] hoi hoi [19:54] inspiron630 (n=name@c-24-10-163-100.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] wotcha andarius ;) [19:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:54] wotcha BP{k} :) [19:56] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:56] greetings andarius, how are you? [19:57] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:57] salutations fire|bird, i am well just got back from the gym. you ? [19:58] I am great, thank you. :) [19:58] howdy BP{k}, how goes? [19:58] salutations fire|bird andarius BP{k} [19:58] greetings edman007, how's it going? [19:59] better...not so good this morning/afternoon [20:00] salutations edman007 [20:00] Any emacs users in here? Know how to abort/break an infinite loop when running a lisp program? [20:01] vim ftw!! :) [20:01] fire|bird: class is requiring emacs lisp.. otherwise I'd be using anything else :) [20:01] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] Action: edman007 waves to Wescotte [20:02] Wescotte, ctl-g? [20:02] should cancel anything.... [20:02] edman007: thank you :) [20:02] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:02] Wescotte, how do you not know ctl-g? its like escape in vi, hit it whenever you are unsure [20:02] edman007: you a lisp programmer by chance? :) I'm doing these stupid little assignments and keep running into problems and can't find a decent way to debug :) [20:03] edman007: never used emacs before [20:03] no, i need to learn lisp [20:03] or vi [20:03] but i can type parens... [20:03] ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) [20:03] edman007: hehe I thought I could but I apparently can't :) [20:03] just say only the last page would print [20:04] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:04] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] VampX (n=orlandol@190.33.43.74) joined ##slackware. [20:08] edman007: wanna attempt to debug my tiny lisp function? :) [20:08] yea [20:09] edman007: 1 sec I'll pastebin it.. [20:09] k [20:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [20:09] Nick change: nix4me -> chopp [20:10] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.241.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:10] okay this is getting interesting.. [20:11] http://linuxconfig.dyndns.org/lazy/LazyLinuxWiki/Backup_and_Restore/Install_Linux_to_removable_USB_disk? [20:11] Slackware 13.0 is delivered with a initrd.gz which can find the root filesystem by label. [20:11] guess I'm better off grabbing 13.0 then. [20:11] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:11] edman007: http://pastebin.ca/1652373 [20:11] Sn0oP (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [20:12] fx_: if you use an initrd rootdelay will not wont. make sure you use the -w option when makeing the initrd. [20:12] canyouscore (n=canyousc@71.227.32.90) joined ##slackware. [20:12] edman007: the first three (setq eq1...3 '()) make a list.. '() is an empty list '(a) is a single item and '(a (b)) of size two with a sublist (I dunno terminology) [20:12] rootdelay will not work. [20:13] Nick change: Sn0oP -> GammalSokk [20:13] Necrogami_ (n=djnecrog@adsl-99-50-140-41.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] edman007: anyway.. my (defun countAtoms) should count the number of items in any list/sublists.. [20:13] XGizzmo, I'll see. [20:13] edman007: it traverses the list item by item.. If it's an atom (single item) it counts it.. If it's a sub list it recursively calls itself to count that sublist.. [20:13] Necrogami (n=djnecrog@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:14] now let's dig into that junk filled appartment see if I have a blank CD lying somewhere.. heh. [20:14] Nick change: Necrogami_ -> Necrogami [20:14] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:14] edman007: (nth i lst) produces the i item of the lst.. nil if you step out of bounds [20:15] Wescotte, yea, i'm messing with it [20:15] Wescotte: hate to be nosey ... but where you instructed to use while instead of car and cdr ? [20:16] *were [20:16] jar_corefile: nope.. I'm just using it.. [20:17] Wescotte: I've written a bit of stuff in ocaml, lisp, and scheme and its almost always easier to use the list structure that way [20:17] ah think I figured it out.. [20:18] fire|bird: life is gooot. :) [20:18] my variables in my function are not local they're global.. [20:18] but i dunno how to make them local :) [20:19] Wescotte, so i'm really not good at lisp, i can't even figure out how to get emacs to load up a lisp shell or something [20:19] edman007: hit "alt - x" type ielm [20:19] edman007: yeah took me awhile to figure that out too :) [20:19] fx_: there is a good chance the slackware 13 mkinitrd package would work on slackware 12.2 also. [20:20] Wescotte: I think you need to use '(let ...' to define local variables ... [20:20] mancha: ping? [20:21] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:21] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:22] JustBe` (n=tiagogom@unaffiliated/justbe/x-000001) left irc: "BitchX: the quilted quicker picker upper" [20:22] Wescotte: mind if I tack on the end of the pastebin ? [20:22] jar_corefile: yeah that's what I'm finding out but it's not working.. [20:22] jar_corefile: please do [20:24] Wescotte: didn't realize it'd create a new pastebin ... look at the end here: http://pastebin.ca/1652385 [20:24] slackware 13.0 can be installed only if you have the first CD right? [20:25] Unixor (n=quassel@ra32.cdma.bwc.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:25] I mean err. [20:25] yes, you can install with only one cd [20:25] can slackware 13.0 can be installed if you only have the first CD right? [20:25] alright. [20:25] however if you are new to slackware it is HIGHLY recommended you do a full install [20:26] jar_corefile: that works but it's off by 1.. :) [20:26] been using it since the 3.x days.. [20:26] ^_- [20:26] i find that extremely difficult to beleive based on your question [20:26] jar_corefile: err wait.. off by more than 1.. [20:26] Hi. Slackware 13.0 x64 have big software repos? sorry for my bad english. [20:27] it has slackbuilds.org [20:27] what's the partition manager for slackware? my brains blanking on it [20:27] cfdisk [20:27] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:27] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-251-3.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:27] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:27] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] partition? "blanking" mind? how witty [20:28] Wescotte: '(+ a b) is really '(+ (a (b nil))), yes? [20:28] Wescotte: btw ... off by one plus or minus? [20:29] jar_corefile: it's off by more than one.. I just ran it on eq1 - 3 and it's not producing the correct results.. [20:29] jar_corefile: know what this error means btw? *** Eval error *** Wrong type argument: sequencep, c [20:30] Wescotte: sorry ... think it needs a nil check wrapped around the atom check -- (if (eq lst nil) 0 (if (atom ... [20:30] Wescotte: no clue on the error [20:30] mitchx (n=mitchx@chello089077133211.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:31] jar_corefile: http://pastebin.ca/1652389 <-- getting it when using (let) instead of (setq) ... [20:31] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:32] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:32] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-18-136.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:32] jar_corefile: ah great that fixed it.. now to figure out why your solution works :) [20:33] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Wescotte: :) as for your let problem, you have to include the code that the variable is scoped for in the let [20:34] Wescotte: so (let (x 4) (+ x 3)) returns 7 without making x global [20:34] thrice`: what's that command to write one or zero to my entire hard drive? my mind is blanking again? :P [20:35] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-144.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:35] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [20:35] jar_corefile: I don't get that at all :) so I (let x 0) and (let x (+ x 1)) to set it to 0 and then to iterate it? [20:35] Wescotte: something like http://pastebin.ca/1652393 should work iteratively [20:36] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [20:36] Wescotte: mind you I'm not checking these in emacs ... there are certains things I just don't do ;) [20:36] Reticenti: something like: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda (or similar) [20:36] canyouscore (n=canyousc@71.227.32.90) left irc: "leaving" [20:37] Reticenti: you want 1's or 0's or random 1's and 0's ? [20:37] Reticenti: or instead of /dev/null maybe it's /dev/urandom [20:37] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:38] /dev/zero for zeros, /dev/urandom for random data [20:38] if you want to be thorough use dban [20:38] jar_corefile: so (let (x 0)) initializes x to 0.. then I can just (+ x 1) to increment x? [20:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-79-16.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [20:39] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:39] g4mm4 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:39] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:39] Wescotte: that would init x to 0, then do nothing with it [20:39] Wescotte: the first part of the let are the var decl's and then rest are what should be done with those variables in local scope [20:40] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [20:40] Wescotte: once you close the let, the variable(s) is(are) gone [20:40] jar_corefile: oh is it (let (x 0 y 0) (rest of my function)) ? [20:40] Wescotte: more or less ... I think you need ((x 0) (y 0)) for that second element [20:41] did you look at: http://pastebin.ca/1652393 ? [20:41] jar_corefile: oh yeah I just saw it now :) sorry [20:41] Wescotte: np [20:42] jar_corefile: now it's stuck in an infinite loop :) [20:42] Wescotte: the iterative version? [20:44] jar_corefile: no.. in my version... your version works [20:44] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:45] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:45] jar_corefile: I'm just curious as to why mine is failing.. I thought it was because the variables weren't local which explains the infinite loop.. when it calls itself recursively the (let) is called again right? [20:45] Wescotte: should be ... the variables should then "shadow" their previous values until the let exits [20:46] jar_corefile: hmm not sure why it's failing to terminate the function call then.. [20:47] thanks danc3 and jar_corefile [20:47] Wescotte: doh! you're not actually assigning the incremented i [20:47] Reticenti: no problem ... [20:48] Wescotte: this is the problem with doing things iteratively in a functional language [20:48] Wescotte: unless setq will operate on the local (I don't know) it's gonna be hard to make that assignment [20:50] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.255) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:53] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [20:53] jar_corefile: what do you mean I'm not assigning the increment? [20:54] jar_corefile: (+ i 1) and (+ c 1)/(+ c (countAtoms(....)) is incrementing my local variables right? [20:54] abstract3d (n=abstract@195.251.166.22) joined ##slackware. [20:54] antler (n=antler@d198-53-234-245.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:54] abstract3d (n=abstract@195.251.166.22) left irc: Client Quit [20:55] jar_corefile: really I see my function doing pretty much the same as yours.. It's saying check each item of the list.. if it's an atom add 1.. If it's not it's a sublist and recursively count it.. It seems like it's the same thing.. just not using car/cdr [20:56] fx_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) left irc: "User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" [20:56] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Wescotte: sorry, wandered off :/ ... the (+ c 1) simply is evaluated to the value of c plus 1 [20:57] jar_corefile: right.. that's what I want it to be.. I thought :) [20:57] Wescotte: it's more like writing 'c+1 [20:57] Wescotte: sorry ... writing 'c+1' in C rather than 'c++' [20:57] Wescotte: there's a difference between evaluating the value of something and making an assignment based on that value [20:58] abstract3d (n=abstract@195.251.166.22) joined ##slackware. [20:58] jar_corefile: err I think I get what you're saying now.. so how do I add 1 to the value of c? [20:59] Wescotte: I think setq will work within the let [20:59] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [20:59] Wescotte: that is only change the local value, not create a new global variable [20:59] Wescotte: so ... (setq c (+ c 1)) [20:59] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:59] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [21:00] anyone else encounter problems when installing the latest ati driver in 13 stock? [21:00] jar_corefile: oh I was thinking (setq...) made it global again? or does it still treat it locally? [21:00] antler: don't know about the latest, but 9.6 and 9.7 wouldn't work for me [21:00] Wescotte: not 100% sure ... but it should only affect the local copy [21:00] Wescotte: give it a try [21:01] antler: even tried newer kernels, and that didn't help ... something to do with libdrm [21:01] jar_corefile: thanks for all your help btw [21:02] jar_corefile: yup it works.. setq only affects the local variables when you use let.. [21:02] jar_corefile: did you install an older driver? if so, where did you get it? can't see to find one kicking around. [21:03] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F4887.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] antler: I don't remember where I'd found the older ones I tried, but they didn't work either ... but that was due to the card I had (an HD4670 if I recall correctly) [21:03] jhw (n=jhw@p548F3997.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:04] Wescotte: cool ... good to know [21:04] jar_corefile: thanks a lot for all your help! [21:04] Wescotte: np ... it was a fun distraction from the work I'm supposed to be doing [21:05] jar_corefile: the emacs reference guide isn't the most helpful and the class this is for just gave us this horrible "examples" to work with to solve these goofy problems I can could it another language in 5 seconds :) [21:05] jar_corefile: what you working on? :) [21:05] Wescotte: the related work chapter for my phd thesis in computer science [21:05] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:06] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [21:06] Unixor (n=quassel@ra32.cdma.bwc.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:06] jar_corefile: what you doing your thesis on? [21:07] MRSA (n=mrsa@c-24-91-57-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] I am the superbug that will destory linux [21:07] I am resistant to antibiotics [21:07] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] Wescotte: mobile ad-hoc network (MANET) routing security ... interesting enough ... but I have the attitude that if you don't know the existing work in my area, its not my job to teach you ... :-P [21:07] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [21:07] good evening everyone [21:08] anyone good with openvpn? [21:08] Wescotte: I'd rather be writing anything other than rel work at this point [21:08] evening mfillpot, how are you? [21:08] how do i push a iproute2 command? [21:08] fire|bird: I'm good, just looking for the next mod I can perform on my system [21:08] MRSA (n=mrsa@c-24-91-57-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [21:08] mfillpot: cool. I'm just messing with Seamonkey 2, still. :) [21:08] jar_corefile: yeah I'm pretty weak when it comes to that sorta stuff.. took an intro class last semester but I slacked my ass off :) [21:09] jar_corefile: found it interesting enough just didn't have time to really dig into it [21:09] abstract3d (n=abstract@195.251.166.22) left irc: "leaving" [21:09] fire|bird: do you know of anything else I can apply to increase performance and decrease energy and memory use? [21:10] Wescotte: ahh, time ... there's just never enough ... I still long for the days of high school where no one bothered me to do anything and I could just read all I wanted [21:10] mfillpot: Hmm, nothing I can think of, atm anyway. Looking to speed things up even further? [21:10] jar_corefile: so damn annoying :/ [21:10] antler: You're STILL here? :P [21:11] hey fire|bird you got an older ati driver version kicking around? [21:11] fire|bird: I'm always looking to use the built in tools to the fullest capability [21:11] fire|bird: heh just came one [21:11] on [21:11] antler: No I don't. desktop uses nvidia and laptop is ati, but just the included radeon driver. [21:11] jar_corefile: hah I wish.. in HS I worked all the time if I wasn't in school.. didn't really have time then either.. I still don't have time now as I'm double majoring CompSci and Film.. Film stuff just takes up so much more time than CS... Hardly have time to do anything fun on my own [21:12] Necrogami_ (n=djnecrog@adsl-99-162-54-181.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:14] yup [21:14] If I understood how that stuff worked more, I'd probably have the darn thing fixed. [21:15] oo, this cute girl i haven't spoke to in years is suddenly doing mathematics and computer science in cambridge [21:15] how much do i wish she was in my arms [21:15] how much do you wish? I don't know, you tell us. :P [21:15] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] foever * 1000 [21:16] i bid we replace the phrase "at least" with the "@<" [21:16] How much do you bid? [21:16] @!< you've got a job [21:16] @!< is better, i guesss [21:17] "at (not less than)" [21:17] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:18] five million and six euros, firebirdd! [21:18] fire|bird: got seamonkey the way you want yet? [21:18] antler: No, I have to get it to build first. :P [21:18] antler, no [21:18] for now, I'm just running the binary. [21:19] fire|bird: oh, stage 1 of the game, huh? :P [21:19] more like 0.5 :/ [21:19] i'm going to try, fire|bird [21:20] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:20] i'll race you to a slackbuild [21:20] chee: If you try and succeed, I'll give you an antler. [21:20] blablubb3 (n=var@vps-1005590-1468.united-hoster.de) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Action: chee looks at antler with disturbing hunger [21:20] chee: Let that hunger be motivation. :) [21:20] chee: um..... [21:21] Action: chee hungers >:D [21:21] fire|bird [21:21] antler: Are you afraid? :P [21:21] if you win, i'll actually post you a real life object [21:21] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:22] chee: the gay slackers are to the left <-------------------------------- i am here. [21:22] :( [21:22] hahaha [21:22] i [21:22] antler: Where are you? :D [21:22] hello all [21:22] antler had word wrap on [21:22] he's in the jungle baby. [21:22] chee: lol [21:22] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:22] hey neonflux, how are you? [21:23] fire|bird: i'm right beside you :P [21:23] fire|bird:doing good..you? [21:23] neonflux: doing great, thanks. Just messing with SeaMonkey. [21:23] antler: OHGODWHY? [21:23] fire|bird: don't touch his monkey [21:23] yeah, did you ever figure out ldappr.h or whatever it was? [21:24] neonflux: Sort of, ldappr.h now resides in system_wrappers_js as opposed to system_wrappers I just don't know the fix for that. [21:24] heh now i remember why i bought nvidia :( [21:25] fire|bird: can you pass it to the C(XX)FLAGS? [21:25] or CPPFLAGS? [21:25] you bought nvidia because you knew the ati/amd pony show really was a publicity stunt? [21:26] neonflux: Possibly, but that's the main road block for me, I'm not well enough versed in that to know how.to do that. :/ My slackbuild-fu is not strong. :) [21:26] fire|bird: for what it's worth I ran into the same error when I tried compiling Seamonkey [21:26] antiwire: can you say 'nail on head'? [21:26] lol [21:26] haha [21:26] fire|bird: I had to do something like that when I was building airpwn [21:28] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] welcome back mfillpot [21:29] fire|bird: I switched to xfce to see how much memory I would save [21:29] i keep see MILF whenever i see mfillpot [21:29] *seeing [21:29] neonflux: Yeah, it seems the failure is all because ldappr.h is in a different place. [21:29] antler: thank god ... I thought it was just me [21:29] lol [21:29] lol [21:29] mfillpot: Nice, I've been using xfce for a few weeks now. [21:30] you're all so wasteful ... blackbox is the only way to go ... [21:30] blackbox, ugh [21:30] fire|bird: I use xfce for normal use, but was in kde for the memory test, the memory use difference is minimal.. most of my memory is being used by the kernel [21:31] fire|bird, what version of firefoz is seamonkey new.0 built against? [21:31] chee: 3.5.4 I think (sorry fire|bird ) [21:31] jar_corefile, who do you think you are! [21:31] mfillpot: Yeah, there isn't all that much difference, fresh login to kde here is about 50MB memory. [21:31] jar_corefile: correct [21:31] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:32] chee: the queen of sheeba? [21:32] lol [21:32] Queen? [21:32] why not ... anything is better than a poor grad student, no? [21:33] I am very tempted to kill hal and some other system services, although it doesn't matter since I am using 4G of RAM [21:33] jar_corefile: you have a point there. :) [21:33] jar_corefile, you ehiopian bitch! [21:33] mfillpot: I know if I killed hal, startup time would increase quite a bit. [21:34] i need to pe so much\ [21:34] +e [21:34] then go man, GO!!!! [21:34] When nature calls, you gotta answer. [21:34] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [21:34] naw [21:34] If you let the machine get it, you'll have a mess. [21:34] jsut pich it off and keep computing [21:34] I think its too late ... maybe that's why his nick kept showing up in yellow ... :-P [21:34] pinch* [21:35] jar_corefile: hahaha [21:35] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:35] fire|bird: my problem with killing hal is that k3b depends on it [21:35] fire|bird: I think you've got some on you too ... oh wait, that's just irssi telling me I have a mesg [21:35] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] mfillpot: Ah, I mainly use xfburn or cli. [21:36] jar_corefile: His nick shows blue here, I think he's relieved now. [21:36] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [21:36] fire|bird: sounds safe ... [21:36] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:36] It's never safe, NEVER!! [21:37] fire|bird: btw ... have you ever had problems burning TOC/BIN discs with cdrecord on the cli? [21:37] fire|bird: for some reason the exact same cmd (supposedly) issued by k3b works [21:37] jar_corefile: that's odd. I've never had issues burning anything. [21:38] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [21:38] hi folks [21:38] fire|bird: hmm ... it always compains that the drive doesn't take cue files, even specifying the driver ... but k3b works fine [21:39] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@190.165.26.181) joined ##slackware. [21:39] fire|bird: xfburn seems adequate [21:40] mfillpot: Yeah, it's nice. It works for all what I need it to do. [21:40] i cant make iso with xfburn [21:40] acidtripper: make an iso through CLI [21:41] heh, Seamonkey 2 still offers that Modern look like what the Mozilla Suite and Netscape had. :P [21:42] now for more test, I may be back online tonight [21:42] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:43] bash-completion isn't as good on slack as on other distros :[ [21:43] use zsh [21:43] chee: specifically? [21:43] zsh \o/ [21:43] well, on some other distros i've been in bed with [21:44] you can type ./configure [tab tab] [21:44] did you actually intall bash-completion ? [21:44] and they'll give you all the options available for that very configure file [21:44] hm, I don't think i've ever seen that [21:44] thrice`, yss [21:45] yss = yeah, sure, sure? :P [21:46] someone built all compiz, including emeralnd cpp,etc.? [21:47] f: yss = certainly / cat yes! [21:47] and before that, yes > yes [21:47] can someone convert these commands for me to 'route' from iproute2? [21:47] ip route add 172.16.0.0/24 dev tun0 [21:48] ip route add default via 172.16.0.1 dev tun0 [21:48] route -new ? or something [21:49] acidchild: route add -net 172.16.0.0/24 tun0 [21:49] acidchild: route add default gw 172.16.0.1 tun0 [21:49] thank you sir! [21:49] anytime [21:50] JamesBling (n=JamesBli@ip-112-199-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: "Quit" [21:50] haha [21:50] forward tact fail! [21:50] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.24.178) joined ##slackware. [21:51] antiwire: sorry, not following, something I did? [21:53] fire|bird: re: modern look lol [21:54] after all this time, is Modern really Modern anymore? :P [21:54] fx_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:54] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-132.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "so many assholes, so few bullets..." [21:54] going desperate here. [21:54] followed the instructions here; http://linuxconfig.dyndns.org/lazy/LazyLinuxWiki/Boot/Initrd_with_LABEL/UUID_support [21:54] still not working. [21:54] jar_corefile: no I was just knocking the ironic situation of forethought on iproute2 [21:55] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:55] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-212-249.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.167) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:55] antiwire: ah, ok ... too much writing rots your brain (or at least mine) [21:57] fire|bird: speaking of modern ... did you see the xkcd homepage the day geocities closed? ... they did a great job with the retrofit [21:57] no, I didn't. [21:57] what uuid changes compared to putting /dev/sdx? [21:58] i passed my english exam! [21:58] acidchild: sdx is dependent on detection/plug-in order ... UUID is constant [21:59] acidchild: (congrats!) [21:59] yup but UUID requires a initrd.gz [21:59] tab complete +1 ?? [21:59] trying to build one.. [22:01] +2 actualy. double whammy, two in a row :) [22:01] fx_: have you also switched to using 'append=' instead of 'root=' ? [22:02] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-63-167.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "#28" [22:04] brb [22:04] fx_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) left irc: "User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" [22:04] mitchx (n=mitchx@chello089077133211.chello.pl) left irc: Client Quit [22:04] all people get confused between acidchild and acidtripper :P [22:05] that's because the type the first few letters and hit tab, and it completes wrong. [22:05] yes but uuid depends on how initrd is configured? [22:06] acidtripper: (see I *can* get it right) I think uuid needs an initrd because it uses udev [22:07] acidtripper: the UUID however is constant for the drive ... [22:07] ah, ok! [22:08] its very useful for creating scripts that deal with ext drives that move between machines [22:08] or distinguishing multiple drives plugged in in a random order [22:08] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] ah, quiting time ... be back in a few hours [22:09] uuid? is unit id? or something similar? [22:09] universal unique identifier or somethign [22:09] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@nmd.sbx08970.madiswi.wayport.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] lsd? wtf :P [22:11] Berkeley's *other* product. [22:12] I was close, it's "Universally Unique IDentifier" :P [22:14] another bash-completion i miss is the killall bash completion [22:15] i miss ./configure bash-completion and killall bash-completion the most [22:21] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. 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[22:49] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-212-249.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:53] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:54] this is just absurd http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/sixty-seconds/shea-lopez-ultra-long-tube_25599 [22:55] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:55] heh win refuses to install to a disk partition that slackware was on... gives a partition error message even after a delete and format [22:55] :D [22:56] antler: It's a sign, forget win, reinstall slack. [22:58] fire|bird: but no ati support is a downer [22:58] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-100.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-100.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:01] antler: what card do you have? [23:01] an old ati x1600 pro [23:01] That should work wit the open source drivers... [23:02] fx_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:02] it works, it works, it works! [23:02] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/how-to-get-kernel-to-recognize-rootlabelfoo-parameter-600182/ [23:02] the latest post at the bottom. [23:03] radeon's fine right now, but no xorg.conf and trying to get dual monitor support going, given my experience, should take unreasonably long to accomplish. [23:03] LSD`: ^^ [23:03] just have to add three more libs which are required by blkid. [23:03] usually a ldd blkid will tell you which ones are required. [23:03] libcom_err.so.2 libpthread.so.0 and a few extras [23:03] i can make an xorg.conf, but i haven't heard good things about dual monitor setup [23:03] antler: heh, OK. I wouldn't be able to stomach setting it all up manually either [23:04] Unixor (n=quassel@ra13.cdma.bwc.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Nick change: Unixor -> giros [23:05] i install slack 13.0 x64 and do not find grap package manager. help please [23:06] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.38) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:07] that makes perfect sense, as ther eis no grap package manager [23:07] thrice`, moo? [23:08] pkgtool do not install soft. drop to console [23:09] man, it's really too bad slackware's probably going to be wiped from this old dimension 4700; 13 and xfce run amazingly well. very snappy. [23:10] giros: you can install from there; you might even run pkgtool? [23:13] antler: i run pkgtool and path to cdrom.sorry for bad english [23:13] giros: what do you want to install? [23:13] there is also installpkg and removepkg [23:14] he wouldn't have the cool menu selection, though [23:14] antler: kde4*, and remove xfce(install with full from menu) [23:15] fx_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) left irc: "User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" [23:16] removepkg xfce && slackpkg install kde/ [23:16] insane to think of removing xfce but ... [23:16] slackpkg??? do not pkgtool? [23:16] giros: heh yeah, xfce is nice and fast [23:17] antler: do no love xfce [23:17] you could use pkgtool, if you have the packages local that would save you some bandwidth usage [23:17] very thank's! [23:17] giros: installpkg /path/to/kdepackages/* [23:17] removepkg xfce [23:18] ok.thank [23:18] giros (n=quassel@ra13.cdma.bwc.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:18] yw [23:18] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:32] agentc0re: I didn't but haven't been in any store .. this was in a local restraurant :) [23:33] fire|bird: heh :P [23:34] chenfengyuan|ZN5 (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.1) left irc: "used jmIrc" [23:35] julioc|zzz (n=Who@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [23:38] RedSocrates (n=RedSocra@cpe-69-207-175-250.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:40] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:44] toofer (n=toofer@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] my box fscked with the wrong date (2010) and now how to i get it to stop fscking and asking to reboot? [23:45] saying superblock last mount was in the future [23:46] tunefs? [23:47] lol, you're stuck in the future, what's it like? :P [23:47] pretty shitty, china took over. [23:47] =] [23:47] lots of rice [23:47] haha [23:49] fingers crossed that worked, the manual is in chinese :P [23:49] lol [23:49] no luck:-( [23:50] ehhhhhhhhh [23:51] acidchild: same thing? [23:51] yes, i did tune2fs -c 0 [23:52] but i just tried tune2fs -C -1 -c 0 [23:52] says they are both set to -1 now O.o [23:52] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [23:52] URG :( [23:53] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:00] --- Mon Nov 2 2009