[00:00] Thom1: Return Merchandise Authorization [00:00] ok thanks [00:00] fire|bird: wtf, never seen that one before. :) [00:00] chopp: :) [00:02] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [00:02] SiegeX: yes, they are owned by the groups i made [00:02] why am i doing it wrong? [00:02] dchmelik: in a custom /etc/profile.d/ script, add something like: if getent group wheel | grep -q $USER ; then alias halt="sudo /sbin/halt" ; alias reboot="sudo /sbin/reboot" ; fi [00:02] evening fellas, i seem to be having some trouble with samba, smbd takes ages to load, started happening after a reboot, and i cant think of anything that might cause it, ive tried really plain simple configs and still no luck [00:02] I have a Thinkpad T61 (http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T61) using Nvidia video card ( http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/NVIDIA_Quadro_NVS_140M ) [00:02] dchmelik: then use visudo to allow members of whell group to do those via sudo [00:02] I need some help getting the drivers working [00:03] change the group as desired [00:03] I personally find that "power" is the best group for that. [00:03] fire|bird k [00:03] thanks, i will think about this [00:04] im using 12.2 and installed the samba from /patches adn still nothing [00:04] any flames yet? [00:04] i typed 'man getent' and 'help getent' but nothing came up [00:05] getent is a libc call [00:05] so you can use C in bash? [00:05] getent --help [00:05] dchmelik: not easily [00:05] wd_ (n=wd@cpe-98-148-252-52.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [00:05] how would you do it difficultly? [00:06] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:06] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [00:06] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:07] siegex: perhaps integrate cint into bash [00:07] i think it would be simpler to just put the aliases in profile without the logic... if someone uses it without permission it will not work anyway, and no one else really uses my system [00:08] http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/the-gallery-of-exploding-servers/ [00:08] i tried typing '--help' after some other libc stuff but nothing came up [00:08] i like that term, exploding server [00:08] cint is that awk like app, no? [00:08] http://root.cern.ch/drupal/content/cint [00:09] cint is that funky C interp? [00:09] aye [00:09] does it work well? [00:09] and what do you think about maxtor or western digital ? [00:09] no [00:09] hah [00:10] it would probably be better to integrate bash with tcc and compile and exec stuff on the fly [00:10] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.185) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:10] (in the background, in response to input) [00:11] can you coml the colonel with tcc? [00:11] s/coml/comp [00:11] mancha: only a hacked up version of it [00:11] AMD ships low-power 6-core opteron [00:11] mancha: many years ago someone did a demo where they booted Linux from source code [00:11] that's neat actually [00:12] tcc has been "forked" and named tinycc [00:12] Dominian: lol, !dominian hahahah [00:12] it should have been named tlcc [00:12] eh [00:12] !dominian pr0n [00:12] slax [00:12] is it full posix? [00:12] rob0: ahhhh that [00:12] Dominian: earlier.. was reading the back log. [00:12] close to it, if not [00:12] I'm too drunk now to even follow through with that anymore :) [00:12] as in, using this Compiler will require TCL [00:12] er [00:12] TLC [00:12] drunkenbot [00:13] Dominian: nice! the way it should be. [00:13] bbl [00:13] :) [00:13] rworkman, what hard drive do you recommend ? [00:13] tender loving care [00:13] was wondering what tickles had to do with it.. [00:13] boo hisss [00:13] I need to get this working [00:13] Action: Dominian is working on his "digg" like site for Slackware/Linux stuff [00:13] Thom1: I don't really have any recommendations [00:13] rworkman recommends that you send him your hard drive for 2-3 years of testing. [00:13] dhw: bah, working is over rated. [00:13] the only hard drive rworkman cares about is the one his wife controls [00:14] [in bed] [00:14] haha [00:14] I plan to start working on a graphics engine [00:14] says Sigmund Dominian [00:14] that would be neat, tinix, a source-based distrib that compiles on each boot, certianly would cut down on user initiated unneeded reboots [00:14] so I can use it for path finding in video games [00:14] It's a hard drive to work in the morning, but it's nice to come home. [00:14] i see on the web a lot of "seagate rma sucks" and apparently a lot of people have problems with seagate hdd [00:15] rob0: you should design bubble gum wrappers [00:15] I've not had issues with seagate [00:15] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:15] I need to get the xorg.conf working, there does not seem to be a xorg.conf file anywhere [00:15] every manufacturer is going to have a bad drive here and there you have to RMA [00:15] agentc0re: I've even tried the vesa driver now and that didn't solve the flash issue, nor did removing ~/.adobe or ~/.mozilla, so I'm mirroring slack64 and am going to try reinstalling some things and see if by chance something happened that way. :P [00:15] its the price of technology unfortunately [00:15] AAMOF I used to work as a subcontractor's subcontractor for a place that prints those things. [00:16] stupid acronyms [00:16] wtf is AAMOF? [00:16] and no.. I'm not googling damn it [00:16] As a matter of fact [00:16] rob0: awesome! [00:16] :) [00:16] wtf(6) needs more acronyms [00:17] aye [00:17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazooka_Joe [00:17] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [00:18] wow, man for wtf... [00:18] fire|bird: that sucks dude.. [00:18] bellard is pretty impressive [00:19] agentc0re: yeah, for sure, but hopefully this reinstall of some things will fix it. :P [00:20] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.141) joined ##slackware. [00:20] pirving (i=1000@host-12-25-50-54.beeline-online.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:28] missyjane (n=benice@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:29] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [00:31] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [00:33] Nick change: Emeau -> Nemeau [00:33] Nick change: Nemeau -> Emeau-cat [00:34] for people interesting by hdd comparaison : http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Storage/Hard-Drive-Roundup.html [00:34] Nick change: Emeau-cat -> Nemeau [00:35] I know something about HDDs [00:35] i had a hard drive throw non-correctable errors on some sectors. they were reported in the kernel ring buffer and in the smart error log. [00:35] pi31415: was this related to the DB issue? [00:35] later, i was able to read and write the sectors in question, so i assume that the drive remapped them [00:36] antiwire: separate issue, this was on our email server [00:36] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:36] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] pi, what does smart say is the sector reallocated count? [00:37] seems like it was 104 sectors or so [00:37] holy [00:37] pi31415: are you still trusting this disk? [00:37] no, i swapped in a spare [00:37] good [00:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:41] ArchGT (n=ArchGT@unaffiliated/archgt) joined ##slackware. [00:41] is there a package manager in slackware? [00:42] there was, but he was laid off [00:42] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [00:42] ArchGT: there is the pkgtools [00:42] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:43] and the dependency manager has been famously defined as the output of this command: whoami [00:43] Action: rworkman bows [00:43] ;) [00:43] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:44] hrm [00:44] antiwire, just installed slackware today and have not used it in six years so I'm somewhat rusty ;) [00:45] hi all, I'm running slackware 13 which rocks (very) but I'm wondering if someone can tell me how I can find out what provides a given dependency. Example: slackpkg search iasl (but that results in no hits) [00:45] briareus: not in Slackware [00:45] (and it's not in the slack.desc) [00:45] ok [00:45] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=iasl&sv=13.0 [00:45] hmm, I just sbopkg to search as well and also got zero hits [00:45] and its synced [00:46] It's called "acpica" - that's why. [00:46] iasl is a search tag in our db [00:47] hrm.. [00:47] I guess sbopkg doesn't use nearly the same search :) [00:47] thanks [00:48] That *might* be a bug. Worth reporting on sbopkg list [00:48] hmm ok [00:48] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] I'm still reeling from losing all my old customizations (my fault) but slackware 13 is very nice, thanks for it. [00:49] hehe [00:49] Well, I'm off to bed. Later [00:49] night rworkman [00:50] I ran a cp -r /home/briareus but it didn't pick up any .whatevers and I didn't realize it til too late [00:50] live and learn [00:50] yuh been there before [00:51] it is kinda nice in a way, tabula raza [00:52] at least I know how to recreat/make new customizations without taking as long as they took the first time to figure them out :) [00:53] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:53] 'sort: read failed' is ignoring 2> /dev/null ... that shouldnt be happening [00:54] echo $? returns 123 [00:54] maybe its stdout [00:54] write your full command [00:54] it doesnt matter the full command what matter is the exit code [00:55] ok [00:56] rworkman: figures you went to bed [00:57] Action: slackwared scratches his head [00:57] Action: Dominian was going to "reveal" an idea he had .. [00:58] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:58] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Connection timed out [00:59] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [01:00] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-92-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [01:00] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:01] Nick change: slackwared -> slackweird [01:05] hmm, reading the SLACKWARE.README for slim 1.3.1 and I see it has special instruction for using it runlevel 4. I was wondering why it didn't create an rc.slim [01:06] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [01:06] it would seem to lack hack if it did that [01:06] bah still not working [01:06] wait i thought that was something that would run X [01:06] Chakravanti (n=chunk@67.236.82.46) joined ##slackware. [01:07] dchmelik: you mean slim? its a login for X [01:07] uh-oh... just as i might have suspected [01:07] I think installing slackware 13 was worth the gamble [01:07] aceofspades19: why? [01:08] but in my 12.1 system it was an rc.slim, where now it seems to be some lines added to the /etc/rc.d/rc.4 [01:08] nooper: because there wasn't any major problems after installation [01:08] aceofspades19: none here. none. [01:08] none so far, its been 24h [01:08] aceofspades19: thats all it takes to make an upgrade worth it? [01:08] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "logic is funny" [01:08] nooper: and the fact that I can do exactly what I did in slackware 12.1 without any more effort [01:08] briareus: Maybe they've changed it and things go to rc.4 now. A lot has changed since 12.1 [01:09] hey aceofspades19 [01:09] y0 nooper [01:09] yo fire|bird [01:09] hi fire|bird [01:09] fire|bird: yeah and that's fine with me. just different :) [01:10] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-115-165.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] the only problems I've had with slackware 13 were PEBKAC so far [01:11] y0 slackers..How's all? [01:11] brb [01:11] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: "Leaving" [01:12] Oh noes, it's MLanden, again. :P [01:13] veritos (n=root@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] hmmm i want to make it by default boot slackware not windows...in fact i'd prefer to comment out windows altogether and not see the lilo screen (or turn timer down to 1) [01:13] Oh yeah!! [01:13] but i commented out the windows reference and it still comes up with the option [01:13] You commented it out in lilo.conf? [01:13] Chakravanti: run the lilo command after you change the file [01:13] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:14] lilo command? [01:14] I have an intel framebuffer. I'm putting the intelfb module in the initrd and saying 'video=intelfb' but it's sticking with text mode. If I say vga=792 then vesafb starts before intelfb has a chance, since vesafb is in the kernel [01:14] `lilo` [01:14] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:14] Chakravanti: as root, run "lilo" [01:14] ngworekara (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-112-177-214.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:14] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-92-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [01:14] uh oh.. [01:14] Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed [01:14] Warning: The boot sector and map file are on different disks. [01:14] dang it..looks like I'm gonna have to scale down my font for the date in conky [01:14] the changes into lilo.conf take affect afte running 'lilo' [01:14] wtf is that about? [01:15] Chakravanti: that's fine, you can ignore that. [01:15] Chakravanti: it always says that [01:15] okay cool [01:15] Action: Chakravanti is used to grub, first time with lilo [01:15] MLanden: lol, how come? [01:16] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzap ..... :)" [01:17] fire|bird: number of letters in day and month [01:18] haha [01:19] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [01:20] fixed....with space for Wednesday....lol [01:20] \o/ [01:20] ananthgs (n=ananth@151.193.120.17) joined ##slackware. [01:21] I want to install Slackware 13.0 full - on my external hard disk using virtual box. [01:22] Slackware shows that it requires 4.8 Gb full. But I cant create a file above 4gb since my disk is in fat32 format. Is there any other option to do this? Please provide me the suggestions [01:22] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:22] ananthgs: format the drive as ntfs? [01:23] Nick change: BadAtom -> instain [01:23] or some other format that isn't completely retarded [01:23] fat32? my suggestion would be to get off the crack? [01:23] Also that since I have a lot of data - not backup-ed I dont want to format my hard disk. also to use convert command of MS - I think it is a risk [01:23] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: "Leaving" [01:23] Nick change: instain -> Instain_Atom [01:24] Is there a way without formatting my hdd? [01:24] maybe a virtual machine, but if you are using fat32 the hardware might be so old it is slow [01:25] I know that if i give a minimal installation - it should solve my problem - But i will not have space to work more in my / partition then - since it would not cross 4gb [01:25] no backup mean don't do anything [01:25] vesafb is built into the kernel and intelfb is a module, but I want to use intelfb. Saying vga=792 turns on vesafb, and video=intelfb has no effect. Is there a way to make intelfb load, short of recompiling my kernel? [01:25] pirving (i=1000@host-12-25-50-54.beeline-online.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] ananthgs: the data is obviously not worth much if it isn't backed up [01:25] antiwire: ya... [01:25] So, the majority of you say I should switch to XFCE? [01:26] not I [01:26] In the very least it would be rude and worst case it would be unethical for anyone to tell you to move forward without any backups. [01:26] aceofspades: nope i have around 80 gb of linux[distros] iso files in it. [01:26] ananthgs: so couldn't you just redownload them? [01:26] so i will have to rethink before formatting it. I will need a backup. [01:27] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] Since the word 'backup' came up at all, it suggests you might consider the data to have some sort of value [01:27] ananthgs: good idea ;) [01:27] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] agrees with antiwire...there can always be the case where the partition table gets hosed [01:28] harddrives are the most unreliable piece of computer hardware [01:28] Ya i can download - if i have a speedier internet. I come from India - where I dont get much download capacity - without paying more. :( [01:28] ananthgs: what do you plan on doing with 80 gb of linux isos? [01:29] That's not the point though. The magic word came up which means 'stop what you're doing and verify your *insert magic word here* [01:30] Backups are like the rule of uncertainty; as soon as you observe yourself thinking about them, the probability of needing them after you delete them approaches 1 [01:31] aceofspades, antiwire: thanks a lot. I think I cant proceed further without a backup. Thanks once again for all your help and suggestions. Ya i need to think - what will i do with so much of Linux ISOs? ;) :) [01:31] haha [01:31] good luck,ananthgs [01:32] wouldn't it be ironic if you lost a partition that contained an ISO for a data recovery bootdisk? Now think about *that* one for a minute... [01:32] OUCH [01:32] Thanks all. [01:33] Action: aceofspades19 quickly starts buring recovery cds to a disk [01:33] burning* [01:35] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-FIFTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [01:35] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-FIFTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [01:36] pirving (i=1000@host-12-25-50-54.beeline-online.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:36] veritos (n=root@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:38] TwoTwenty (n=matt@S0106001310802d75.ok.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] is it possible to get dnsmasq to point to next server for tftp [01:38] pirving (i=1000@host-12-25-50-54.beeline-online.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] you guys were right xfce rocks [01:39] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [01:39] pirving: Watch it....it can get quite addicting...:D [01:39] Way faster on my old hardware [01:39] damn.....I'm speechless for once [01:39] TwoTwenty: are you talking about TFTP going across subnet boundaries? [01:39] pirving: fluxbox is faster [01:40] figabo (n=Slacker@187.149.20.8) joined ##slackware. [01:40] pirving: LXDE,ION3,openbox are a few more that are fun to try out as well [01:40] yes but are there any new features since 12.2 any additions? [01:40] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [01:40] antiwire: no [01:41] xwmconfig is great so I don't have to create different users like kde, xfce, fluxbox, etc [01:41] antiwire: just getting my wrt with tomato and dns masq to point to my server's tftpd [01:41] Action: byteframe realizes how tedious his backup regimen is. [01:41] you might have to create a 'kde' user if you want to compile kde4.3.... [01:41] I have to still make the thing look kinda like windows for my g/f we share the computer.....ugh...I could shoot her sometimes [01:41] not really [01:42] not literally [01:42] figure of speech....gosh. [01:42] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [01:42] antiwire: do you know how I can point it to another server? [01:42] pirving: you mean "smack her backside until she likes it"? [01:42] well thats a granted [01:42] ? does that make sense? [01:42] TwoTwenty: I don't know what you mean actually. [01:42] ArchGT (n=ArchGT@unaffiliated/archgt) left irc: "al rato" [01:43] antiwire: I have a router that provides dhcp through dnsmasq [01:43] ok [01:43] allright have to go try fluxbox good night [01:43] pirving (i=1000@host-12-25-50-54.beeline-online.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:43] antiwire: and I need it to point to my server with tftp on it and all my booting files [01:43] Nick change: omnipotentduo -> omni-sleep [01:43] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [01:43] antiwire: I dont want to hack up my dhcp server and make my file server a dhcp cause of my network topology and down time [01:44] antiwire: any Ideas if I can ? [01:44] TwoTwenty: dnsmasq has a built in tftp server [01:44] prodigal1 (n=superdud@host-216-211-95-187.tbaytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:44] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:44] But using it under Tomato is a question for them, not us [01:44] its just dnsmasq question [01:45] not tomato .. I can add options to dnsmasq in tomato [01:45] have you read the dnsmasq man page at all yet? [01:45] ya [01:46] I'll go back to it, sometimes my head spins so much the man page become cryptic ;) [01:46] thanks though [01:50] Dnsmasq can hand tftp itself or the dhcp server in dnsmasq can set the correct dhcp options to point client to an external tftp server. You need to specify the boot filename in either case. [01:51] hand/handle [01:52] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:52] antiwire: I got all that [01:52] antiwire: just not sure how yet [01:53] dhcp-boot=pxelinux.0,fs,192.168.1.10 [01:53] I ahve that already [01:53] man page : dhcp-boot=[net:,],[[,]] [01:53] Im thinking it has something to do with this one though too [01:53] pxe-service=[net:,],,|[,] [01:54] maybe there should be a program in Slackware called slackyou--and it slacks whoever runs it. [01:54] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-26-213-48.tbaytel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:54] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [01:54] kinda like a wakeup wedgie,dchmelik? [01:54] http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/dnsmasq.conf.example [01:55] where is java? [01:55] Indonesia [01:55] Indonesia [01:55] lol,user_ [01:55] i mean... on my computer [01:55] i do not know what that is, MLanden [01:55] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [01:56] i think a SubGenius person would have to explain what the program would do [01:56] Chakravanti: /usr/lib${LBIDIRSUFFIX}/java [01:57] hmm [01:57] that's not really useful [01:57] wait maybe [01:57] dchmelik: having one tug at the trousers upwards [01:58] okay i have this file [01:58] because somehow FF doesn't use java for it [01:58] but it's a java web start file [01:58] ejal (n=ejal@CBL217-132-119-33.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:59] and i'm at a loss how to run it [02:00] or how to make java use it [02:00] antiwire: thank you that helps tremendously [02:00] Chakravanti, javaws /path/to/file [02:00] antiwire: they say its possible that it could be my ROM on the NIC [02:00] yes [02:00] thanks! [02:00] TwoTwenty: Depends on how old the NIC is [02:00] welcome [02:01] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Pekwm! it ain't your grandma's wm :)"). [02:01] antiwire: well guess I have to setup a new DHCP server jsut temp [02:01] :( [02:02] just virtualize it [02:02] antiwire: where #gentoo #debian #arch #linux fail, you and #slackware prevail .. maybe I will put myself back on slackware again its where I started until I got lazy [02:02] hmm ava wont run it =( [02:02] java* [02:05] this girl got bite multiple times http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/alert/shark-attack-terramar-beach-carlsbad_30126/ [02:05] bit* [02:05] http://www.pastebin.org/13874 [02:05] anyone knwo what that means? [02:07] antiwire: wow [02:07] nvm [02:07] i got it another way [02:08] antiwire: hopefully,it will heal [02:09] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:09] it didn't remove any limbs, she'll be fine [02:09] Perfec7 (n=FullT@201.9.185.57) left irc: "Full Throttle, it´s all [www.fullt.net]" [02:09] she's lucky [02:10] geno (n=geno@125-236-175-211.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [02:11] cyb3r3li0g (n=3li0@c-67-164-158-190.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [02:12] She's really lucky now that she has been attacked by a shark and didn't get killed she probably never needs to worry about it again. [02:12] I'd go buy a lotto ticket if I were her [02:13] yeah, for sure. [02:13] TwoTwenty (n=matt@S0106001310802d75.ok.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [02:14] It'd be nice to just one win a lotto, wouldn't have to worry about money for a while, if not the rest of your life if you invested it right. [02:14] s/one/once/ [02:14] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-90-108.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [02:14] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:15] unlike this chick, heh: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/856210/teenage-lottery-winner-broke-after-seven-years [02:15] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:15] 3.6million and the idiot is broke? [02:15] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-90-108.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [02:15] what a moron. [02:15] holy..... [02:15] that's crazy [02:15] $482,000 on cocaine [02:15] caine and lager.....stupid [02:16] that's just plain stupidity [02:16] must have been a badass party though [02:16] haha [02:16] party of a lifetime [02:16] 400k on coke [02:16] holy shit. [02:16] antiwire: I'm sure it was, but nobody probably remembers it. [02:16] party like a rockstar? Which one?!? Keith Richards? [02:17] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:17] I could have lived 2 lives back to back with 3.6m [02:17] for that price, all of em. :P [02:17] she must have been quite the character prior to the lotto win I'm thinkin [02:17] Those figures are probably in AUD$, the win was about USD$3.1 mill with the cocaine bill around USD$406k. Still a crapton of money however you spin it :P [02:17] I win just 500k and I assure you I'm not working a real job ever again [02:18] I will become a shaman and live in the desert. [02:18] she could have just taken sound advice instead of rejecting it [02:18] Looks like she regrets it now though [02:18] yup [02:18] she's going to be regretting that every day she wakes up to go to work [02:19] oh yeah [02:19] She could have had it made, but chose to be stupid about it [02:19] I wonder how strung out she was when she wound up with the two kids... [02:20] judging by the cocaine bill alone...fscking strung out [02:20] Probably doesn't even remember having the kids [02:20] Chakravanti (n=chunk@67.236.82.46) left irc: "Leaving" [02:22] user_ (n=user@74-42-112-24.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:22] now see Billy...why those 4 year olds using Windows is just bad...:C [02:23] What I want to know is how you can spend 400k on blow over the course of 7 years and not end up in jail. How is that possible? [02:24] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-244.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:24] right,antiwire...would send up some warning flags to the authorities so way [02:24] that's what I was wondering, doesn't seem possible [02:24] it sounds a little far fetched to me but I'm sure she gained some friends real quick. [02:24] s/so/some [02:24] I'm going to figure this out. [02:24] how much coke was that [02:25] especially when she had kids, didn't anybody notice her condition then? [02:25] and take the kids away [02:25] lol,antiwire...you gonna ask on #ubuntu? [02:25] http://www.economist.com/daily/chartgallery/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9414607 [02:25] hahaha [02:25] so she was in AU [02:26] yup [02:26] so we will use 700$/g [02:26] antiwire: Nah, she was in the UK, I just linked the story from a local site [02:27] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) joined ##slackware. [02:27] ah [02:27] ok then the price is probably lower [02:27] Let's say 100/g [02:28] 4820 grams = 10.626281 pounds [02:28] almost 11 pounds of blow [02:28] that's amazing [02:28] antiwire: quick question, have you ever ran into this issue (I'm using 64bit, but I don't think it's 64bit specific) but /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 14149 Illegal instruction "$prog" ${1+"$@"}. I get this when going to certain flash sites, the browser crashes. [02:29] fire|bird: nope, no idea either [02:29] Hmm, ok, I've tried a bunch of things, including reinstalling l/ and FF, etc. but nothing fixes that dang problem. :P [02:29] thanks [02:30] reticenti (i=475e4cbf@gateway/web/freenode/x-ucguwpexkanodgik) left irc: "Page closed" [02:31] fire|bird, maybe adobe flashplayer sucks ? [02:31] fire|bird: how's your other browser's act on those sites? [02:31] MLanden: konqueror gives a nspluginviewer crash and opera sits there and doesn't try to load the flash at all [02:32] Thom1: Well that's a given, but this happened also when trying swfdec too. :P Maybe not a flash issue? [02:33] brb [02:33] fire|bird: my firefox used to crash when I fullscreened a flash movie, I disabled hardware acceleration and went just fine... [02:33] I even tried a different video driver [02:33] fire|bird: can you go behind the scenes and wget/curl any of that flash to see if it's not corrupt? [02:33] try disabling on flash settings [02:35] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:37] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [02:38] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [02:39] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:41] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:43] fire|bird: just don't use flash :P [02:44] LF4 is right use silverlight [02:45] links all the way! :) [02:46] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-syesdtbawpfnvazu) joined ##slackware. [02:48] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8979F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:49] MLanden: I could, yeah. youtube works fine, it's various other sites with flash. [02:49] LF4: hahaha [02:49] morning [02:49] y0 slackytude [02:49] morning slackweird :) [02:49] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:49] pprkut: i got an error in the fluidsynth SlackBuild on 64-bit--want to see it? [02:49] awe!!! tab complete fail! [02:49] morning slackytude [02:49] y0 fire|bird , LF4 [02:49] hear ya,fire|bird...well,good luck on the solution [02:50] LF4: AH HA, you failed this time. :P [02:50] MLanden: thanks [02:50] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:50] and BTW was this the synth that used to be in SlackBuilds earlier? an analogue one? [02:50] slackytude: how's it going? [02:50] fire|bird: Yes I do but I'm also multitasking :) at work haha the only time I am busy is the first 2hrs. :/ [02:50] mornin' ,slackytude [02:51] grinch (n=grinch@74-42-112-24.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@net-93-64-78-194.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [02:51] y0 MLanden [02:51] Bassist (n=bass@93.133.176.175) joined ##slackware. [02:51] fire|bird, still alive [02:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:51] Hey, I need help getting my Synaptics Touchpad to do what it's supposed to [02:51] It works, but I can't scroll with it [02:52] Can anyone help me please? [02:52] slackytude: ever experience this? /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 14149 Illegal instruction "$prog" ${1+"$@"} [02:52] fire|bird, not on 64bit [02:52] fire|bird, not on 13 either [02:52] slackytude: but on any version? [02:52] morning [02:53] fire|bird, I have no /usr/lib64 [02:53] I'm on Slackware 13 BTW, a bit confused now there's no xorg.conf anymore [02:53] Bassist: you'll need an xorg.conf to make your pad work [02:53] antiwire, is there no hal for that? [02:54] slackytude: not for the advanced features [02:54] I see [02:54] and some models won't work at all [02:54] Bassist: only need xorg.conf for non-standard settings, like my laptop with touchpad and svideo output [02:54] how much of it works without an xorg.conf really depends on the model [02:54] antiwire, alisonken1church: So I just add a paragraph in a new xorg.conf which configures the pad? [02:55] slackytude: I've been having that issue. I've tried different flash versions, different video driver, reinstalling l/ reinstalling FF, etc. with no luck. :P [02:55] Bassist, there was a memo about synaptics in the slackware tree. [02:55] Bassist, you need the lines you had in your old xorg.conf + a few lines to tell it to not listen to hal for input devices [02:55] some touchpads can be quite PITA to tweak just right in xorg.conf [02:55] fire|bird, win7 is nice.... [02:55] Bassist: "X -configure && cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf" <-- check name of new xorg.conf in /root directory [02:55] lol [02:56] Action: LF4 votes fire|bird moves to win7 for his flash :) [02:56] Bassist: after that, add a deviceinput section changing mouse driver to synaptics [02:56] Bassist, http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [02:56] s/add/modify/ [02:56] Bassist, -> synaptics memo [02:56] alisonken1church: Ok thanks, I'll do that [02:56] slava_dp: Thanks, reading now [02:57] Officially, synaptics does not need xorg.conf =) [02:57] ah fire|bird you mean crash by freezing and not respoding? [02:57] LF4: Well, I do have a win 7 disk, but I'd rather get slack working. :P [02:57] Bassist: you may also have to change the input setting from psaux to /dev/something-or-other. Don't have my laptop with me at the moment, so can't give you an example [02:57] dchmelik: shoot [02:57] or just exit [02:57] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [02:57] slackweird: I mean crash as in it completely crashes and closes [02:57] slava_dp: true - it works, but the slider doesn't if you don't specify synaptics [02:57] look at this : [02:57] fire|bird: legit or arrrrggg? [02:58] LF4: legit [02:58] look at this fire|bird : /usr/local/bin/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 7348 Killed "$prog" ${1+"$@"} [02:58] nice I didn't know win7 was out. [02:58] slackweird: almost the same. You get that? [02:58] just by killing [02:59] LF4: It's not, it's a Preview of it, it comes out in October [02:59] alisonken1church: Ok thanks, I'll figure that out [02:59] LF4: It's good until next august, but beginning in March, Microsoft has them set to shut down every two hours [02:59] fire|bird: So whats the limit for that disk? [02:59] slackweird: Well dang, not flash at all then maybe. [02:59] fire|bird, the rtm is the same that will be sold on octobre [03:00] fire|bird: Ahh so thats it. [03:00] ok [03:00] slackytude: yeah, it's really nice, I agree. [03:00] It'd be really fast on the lappy. :P [03:01] pprkut: do you want me to email or pastebin it? [03:01] dchmelik: email please [03:01] the summary is: fluid_ladspa.h:88: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'LADSPA_Data' , fluid_ladspa.h:116: error: expected ':', ',', ';', '}' or '__attribute__' before '*' token [03:01] easier to track [03:01] hmm [03:01] I think CHANGES_AND_HINTS.txt has a path bug on line 273. shouldn't it be /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi? [03:02] antiwire: Seems so [03:02] C&H doesn't have the /10osvendor/ directory in the path [03:02] mornin [03:02] morning tewmten [03:02] pprkut, actually first it says that h file does not exist and then it says those errors.... [03:02] hi fire|bird [03:02] the rest is just standard make output for these circumstances and i probably do not need to email you the whole thing. [03:02] dchmelik: well, do you have ladspa_sdk installed? [03:03] i am not sure... i did not see any error about that though [03:03] antiwire, 10-osvendor is left as an exercise to the reader :-) [03:03] dchmelik: you are seeing it right now ;) [03:03] dchmelik: the error you just posted references LADSPA [03:03] ok... [03:04] dchmelik: ls /var/log/packages/*ladspa* will tell you. :P [03:04] and if it's not there, install it and try fluidsynth again. [03:04] Nemeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-22-143.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:05] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-22-143.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:05] i do not think it is there--it is a SlackBuild--but most say what they are missing [03:06] dchmelik: I can not do more but mentioning it in the README [03:06] Bassist (n=bass@93.133.176.175) left irc: "Leaving" [03:06] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-244.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:07] it must just be how make did it this time [03:07] no problem [03:07] dngr (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) left irc: "disconnecting from stoned server." [03:08] dngr (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [03:10] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] Guys, thanks a lot. Now I can scroll with the touchpad :) [03:11] Another question: I'm on XFCE, and in the shutdown menu the only available option I can click on is "Log Out". I can't shutdown, or restart or hybernate and stuff [03:11] Bassist: how did you start xfce? [03:11] inittab set to runlevel 4, xwmconfig set to xfce [03:12] draeath: xinitrc basically [03:12] hrm. i've only seen that when you start it yourself with 'startx' for example [03:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:12] perhaps xfce 'thinks' it's being run that way, rather than via a login manager [03:13] I don't know, I login via xdm [03:13] Bassist: are you talking 'bout ACPI? [03:13] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:13] you in the power group? [03:14] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:14] What the heck, I have no flash anything installed atm, yet about:plugins in FF shows flash. :/ [03:14] fire|bird: via what .so file? [03:14] mancha: No, but I just added my user to the group [03:14] MLanden: What about ACPI? [03:14] fire|bird: it's all in your head just keep saying that. [03:15] Bassist, add yourself to power. [03:15] draeath: I don't have any flash .so files anywhere [03:15] LF4: haha [03:15] right there in about:plugins [03:15] it gives you a .so for each plugin. what is the one for 'flash' [03:15] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Connection timed out [03:15] Bassist: Advanced Configuration and Power Interface [03:15] maybe you need to add stuff to sudoers, ask the xfce crowd [03:16] slava_dp: Ok done.. Reckon it should work after a reboot [03:16] Or restarting X [03:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] draeath: about:plugins shows libflashplayer.so [03:17] Damn Ubuntu, made me forget everything I learned in Slackware 10.2 [03:17] Bassist, it will work after a logout/login. [03:17] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:18] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [03:18] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] slava_dp: Nope, didn't work [03:18] fire|bird: best do a 'find / -name libflashplayer.so' and figure out how you have flash, without ever installing it. 'cause you have it. [03:18] slava_dp: I just realised that /sbin and /usr/sbin aren't in my path [03:18] draeath: yup, found it. [03:18] slava_dp: Maybe that's it? [03:18] Bassist, how come they are not? [03:19] Bassist, oh [03:19] Bassist, sorry, that's ok :) [03:19] Action: slava_dp is too fscking tired today, can't think properly [03:19] slava_dp: t's alright :) [03:20] Bassist, is hal working? is acpid working? [03:20] chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.hal /etc/rc.d/rc.acpid [03:21] draeath: Well, got that removed, but I'm still having this darn crashing issue. :P [03:21] slava_dp: Should be working.. brb, trying something [03:21] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:21] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [03:21] Bassist, does adding: [your_user_here] ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/xfsm-shutdown-helper [03:22] to sudoers file help? [03:23] twinkie_addict (n=david@cpe-24-95-93-218.columbus.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:23] mancha: I'll check, just a second [03:23] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:23] visudo to edit the sudoers [03:23] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] mancha: Not exactly [03:24] mancha: Failed to receive a reply from the session manager: Session manager must be in idle state when requesting a shutdown [03:24] mancha: That's what I get when I click the logout menu button [03:26] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:26] slackytude: Opera 10 final is out, it's on the desktop team blog [03:26] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [03:26] tweak away,fire|bird...:D [03:26] mancha: Tried doing the same to the group "users" [03:26] Oh well, I'll start reading the Slackbook, should help somehow [03:27] Got to run, thanks for all the help everyone :) [03:27] Bassist: check your bios on ACPI...might be of some assistance as well [03:28] MLanden: Will do, thanks [03:28] Bye [03:28] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85b0af.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:29] fire|bird, oy! [03:29] I shall download slackware 13 now [03:29] dont want to wait for my dvd anylonger [03:29] preorder arent even out yet [03:31] slackytude: argh, now that it's final, they don't have any qt4 builds. [03:31] whut? [03:31] why that [03:31] hmm? [03:31] I have no idea, but it's stupid imo [03:31] so you NEED the kde3-compat stuff. :/ [03:32] slackytude: Haha I know I gave in two days ago. :) [03:33] slackytude: imo, they've dropped the ball by not including qt4 builds, especially when they had those for the entire opera 10 snapshot time period. [03:33] any good german / european mirror [03:33] fire|bird, yeah, thats not good [03:33] not good at all [03:33] fire|bird, probably taking a look at chromium now [03:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:33] now I have to get kde3-compat libs. :/ [03:34] dang [03:34] can someone help me set up my webcam on slackware? [03:34] that bites [03:34] Isn't there a way to install those with slackpkg? [03:35] oh. opera 10 is out. who's up for a test run? :) [03:35] Masterx831: are you trying to do something like skype or publish your pictures from webcam? [03:35] The race is on.........:O [03:35] john_dee: it is? neat [03:36] freedrull (n=milton13@accweb.evergreen.edu) left ##slackware. [03:36] LSD`: yup. tho, i'll try win version for now [03:37] john_dee: yeah it is, and they don't have qt4 builds of it, idiots. [03:37] fire|bird: I still see qt4 tarballs for opera-10.00 final [03:37] I may be in Hell until the KDE4.3 packages are made [03:37] i am thinking of making them myself [03:37] fire|bird: only qt3? [03:37] pprkut: really, link, please? [03:37] ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/1000/final/en/i386 [03:38] \o/, pprkut thank you, I completely missed that. [03:38] john_dee: guess not. :P [03:38] john_dee: thank pprkut :) [03:38] np :) [03:38] nice [03:38] alisonken1noc: trying to install my webcam to use it on yahoo video chat [03:38] will try that one once i get my seedbox running. it's out of service now %) [03:39] Masterx831: ok - which webcam do you have? [03:39] Masterx831: UVC drivers? gspca? [03:40] root@fubx:/var/lib# lsusb [03:40] Bus 002 Device 002: ID 041e:4034 Creative Technology, Ltd WebCam Instant [03:40] is there such a thing as network raid? [03:40] i mean RAID storage [03:40] There, building opera now. :D [03:41] http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/08/windows-users-charlie-browns-of.html <-- Blog of Helios "Windows Users - The Charlie Browns of Computing" [03:41] fire|bird: idiots, indeed. i downloaded 10 and instead got 9.64. lawl [03:41] john_dee: Well, there are qt4 builds, thanks to pprkut pointing that out to me. :P [03:41] didnt the helios guy had a heart attack or sumthing [03:41] AlinaM (n=chatzill@81.135.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [03:42] slackytude: extreme fatigue - not a heart attack - from moving a truckload of servers to one of the installfests [03:42] the EMC guy shot himself [03:42] alisonken1church, right, something like that [03:43] if you go to the main page, you can find one of his articles that talks about it [03:43] right right [03:43] think I read about it and forgot most of the details instantly [03:43] like I do with everything else as well [03:45] haha, /usr/lib/opera-10.00/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [03:45] Masterx831: we're not ignoring you, but have to do some checks [03:46] Masterx831: which software on your computer are you trying to use to connect to yahoo video chat? [03:46] fire|bird: sweet. i guess they didn't get to realise that they had to fix their reputation with this release :D why would it need libaudio anyway? [03:47] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] hi all! I downloaded the 13.00 version and installed it on a MacBook. Now I have problems with X (it doesn't work). Where I could find a good tutorial about how to configure Slack for a macbook? [03:50] Masterx831: when you lsmod...any reference to gspca? [03:51] john_dee: I'm not sure why it'd need that. [03:51] Masterx831: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/gspcav1/ [03:52] Masterx831: some more information that might help http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html [03:56] AlinaM: which version of macbook? [03:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:57] dang. it still uses one process for all tabs. isn't that kinda previous century.. :\ [03:57] ok, got that issue fixed, for anyone who builds opera 10, the bundled version is what causes that libaudio error, if you use the other tarball, it's fine. [04:00] geno (n=geno@125-236-175-211.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [04:02] Well, time to get going everyone. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening}. Take care. [04:02] 8-) later,fire|bird..take care [04:02] later fire|bird, have a good one [04:02] later MLanden [04:02] see ya chopp [04:02] later fire|bird =) [04:02] later slava_dp [04:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:04] y0 slava_dp [04:04] hehe http://www.google.com/trends?q=slackware&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0 :P [04:05] Action: Camarade_Tux gives slackytude a beer [04:05] how's it going? :) [04:05] y0 Camarade_Tux [04:05] haha Camarade_Tux nice [04:05] Camarade_Tux, still alive [04:05] Action: slackytude drinks beer [04:05] well, coffee actually [04:06] Camarade_Tux, how are you doing? [04:06] slackytude: you can pour beer in the coffee (or whiskey) [04:06] slackytude: fine :) [04:06] Camarade_Tux, nice graph [04:06] it's cloudy here \o/ [04:06] sunny here, but not too hot [04:06] yet.... [04:06] for nick in `ls ##slackware | grep -v quasar` ; do /stab $nick ; done [04:07] MLanden: the first one. Macbook white 13.3" (2006). [04:07] slackytude: unfortunately, over the years, it's clearly decreasing but I think google scales that wrt global search volume [04:07] it'd be unusable otherwise [04:07] quasar: you forgot to add your password :P [04:07] http://www.google.com/trends?q=slackware%2C+windows+7&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0 [04:07] LF4: ^^ [04:07] :( [04:08] for nick in `ls ##slackware | grep -v quasar` ; do sudo stab LF4 ; done [04:08] :D [04:08] AlinaM: Intel 945GM,right? [04:08] http://www.google.com/trends?q=linux%2C+windows%2C+ubuntu&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0 [04:08] slackytude: the spikes if you look for a 12 month timeframe :o [04:08] Camarade_Tux: interesting [04:08] quasar: lol [04:08] MLanden yes [04:08] sudo stab [04:08] i like that [04:08] Action: LF4 bleeds on quasar [04:08] slackytude: http://www.google.com/trends?q=slackware%2C+windows+7%2C+facebook&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 [04:08] Vazurro (i=5062b254@gateway/web/freenode/x-lamwwssbhiqxqbaf) joined ##slackware. [04:09] people just suck :) [04:09] Ola caballeros [04:09] LF4: less I'll have to boil out later ^_^ [04:09] Camarade_Tuks brotha aloha! [04:09] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A7E2D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:09] (and people go to facebook.com by typing facebook in the address bar which fails to resolve and sends to google which redirects to facebook.com) [04:09] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A7E2D.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:09] Action: LF4 kicks quasar [04:09] yoyo Vazurro [04:10] Camarade_Tux: I really wish people would get a clue and understand what a search bar, and address bar, is [04:10] communicator (n=abc@85.138.28.160) left irc: [04:10] because of them, firefox gets the "awesome bar" [04:10] which is decidedly non-awesome [04:10] AlinaM: In xorg.conf..under Section "Device" .. Is the driver "intel"? [04:11] draeath: especially when it's .com, just press Ctrl+Enter instead of Enter >< [04:11] draeath: yes, exactly (for the ff bar) [04:11] lol add myspace to it :P [04:11] ok, breakfast and code :) [04:12] tommcd (n=tom@c-68-81-102-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-181.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Bugz____ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-181.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] ok, let's drink and code:) [04:13] some cups of greek kaffe with five stars Metaxa [04:13] yummi yummi [04:13] hmpf [04:13] hmmmm...a bloody squarey [04:13] i just have some generic Senseo espresso [04:13] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-64-240.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:13] not very tasty [04:13] yeah, senseo not to delicous [04:13] cout >> "barf"; [04:13] MLanden Driver "i810" [04:13] especially since im used to my new machine [04:14] it has coffee grinder built-in =) [04:14] Bugz_ (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-64-240.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:14] are there any compilers in foreign languages? like.. I want one thats in spanish... para (i=0;i<10;i++) { letraf("%d",i); } [04:14] quasar: no no no, `` is deprecated and you shouldnt ever use the output of ls as parsing material: while read user; do stab LF4; done < ##slackware =) [04:14] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:15] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:15] I heard that when KDE 5 comes out it will be able to brew coffee!! [04:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:15] Hahaha SiegeX :P it was buggy code. [04:15] Action: LF4 dies. [04:15] kidding!! [04:15] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424091.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:15] SiegeX: recommended is $(..) over `..` [04:15] Action: SiegeX redirects that to quasar [04:15] SiegeX: I tried that but I got a "##slackware: file not found" [04:16] wow..lol..http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Slideshows/_production/twip_060928_/twip_060928_tease.ss_h.jpg [04:16] $(..`..`) [04:16] AlinaM: backup the old xorg.conf to xorg.conf.old then go into xorg.conf and change it to Driver "intel" [04:16] tewmten: talk about obtuse :) [04:16] i dont know what obtuse means [04:16] here i am: http://slackwaregallery.org/profile.php?uid=239 [04:17] ok - "talk about obsfucated" [04:17] quasar: in that case you will need process substitution: < <(commmand_that_lists_irc_users ##slackware) instead of just < ##slackware [04:17] The Drunk Tuks: http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/8248/dufftuxtb3.png [04:17] Vazurro: his eyes are still full - not drunk enough [04:18] alison brotha yeah..you are a winner:D [04:18] ah, slackwaregallery.org.. havent seen that site in a while, i thought it was down =) [04:18] here is something i just found out about an hour ago. You can actually write bash for/while/until/select statements without using 'do' or 'done' [04:19] how ? [04:19] why ? [04:19] where ? [04:19] wtf ? [04:19] tewmten: Dominian was talking about how it might go down do to budget cuts. [04:20] for((i=0;i<10;i++));{ echo $i; } [04:20] for example [04:21] Slackboy where are you myfriend? [04:21] if you look at a site like freewebhosts.com there are a few that let you have several hundred Gb... enough for a lot of pictures.... [04:21] alisonken1church: you were right, it did suck.. I ended up going with xawtv (tried tvtime too) [04:22] dchmelik: the whole site is only about 200-300mb in size its the domain that he is thinking about removing. [04:22] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:22] oh... some sites have cheap domains now... google might be $10/year [04:22] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.23.86) joined ##slackware. [04:22] but i do not like how they restrict html [04:22] noobfarm.org/gallery? [04:23] quasar: mythtv is good for what it does - but I found it's not really good for casual use like tvtime [04:23] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.209.192) joined ##slackware. [04:23] dchmelik: He's paying $8 a year i think [04:23] Camarade_Tux: That would be cool :) [04:23] where did he get that rate? [04:23] I cant remember but I know lots of sites are offering domains for around $8-10 a year. [04:23] domains are pretty inexpensive [04:24] LF4: :) [04:24] most of them are disreputable though [04:24] LF4: or 6 euros :D [04:24] "name cheap" [04:24] do google, i tried just typing from memory and got porn [04:24] lol draeath stop searching for porn [04:24] alisonken1church, tvtime? [04:24] http://www.namecheap.com/ [04:24] hahahaha http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+windows+7%2C+slackware%2C+OS+X%2C+porn&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 [04:25] $9.96/y for most domains, less for less 'common' TLDs [04:25] never had any problems, and lots of people I know who have used them, love them [04:26] well even NSI (or whatever,) the original private registrar had problems lately giving people their domains back [04:26] also: Geotrust RapidSSL certificates for as low as $9.95 per year [04:26] thats not too bad for a browser-included CA [04:26] better than the verisign rape [04:26] slackytude: http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/ [04:26] for watching tv using your tv tuner card [04:28] ah [04:30] http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/ [04:30] alisonken1noc: how good is tvtime with ATSC as well as DVB signals? [04:31] MLanden: not sure. when our locale went digital broadcast, had to dump my tv card and haven't got a replacement yet. IOW - been a while since I played with it [04:32] slackytude: lots of *buntu references on that one :) [04:32] thats the way the world turns [04:32] for good or evil, ubuntu is big [04:33] well, that's what happens when you get a marketing budget :) [04:33] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:33] LF4: *LOL*! :P [04:33] MLanden: easy enough to check - there's a slackbuild of tvtime (up to slack v12.2) [04:35] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:35] Action: slackytude gets ready to 13! [04:35] haven't used a tv tuner card in awhile...was just askin' with the change in signals [04:35] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.178) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:37] gah, no dvd's here [04:37] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-234.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:37] MLanden: I think the main difference is channel/subchannel v. analog channel. but yeah, haven't had a chance to check that out yet [04:38] can the slackware installer use a smb share? [04:39] slackytude: I think it can, under netinstall... not 100% sure though. [04:39] alisonken1noc: with some older cards, might be the only option one has is leaving it on Channel 3 or 4 and allowing the external box do the changing( auto scheduling) [04:39] MLanden: that's the other option [04:41] the PXE boot readme says it can use samba, the USBBOOT text says it needs ftp/http/nfs [04:41] nfs would be smb [04:41] huh? [04:41] since when [04:41] LF4: nfs != smb [04:42] smb is a microsoft protocol, nfs is something entirely different [04:42] Ahh ok I thought nfs was just a way of saying a smb server [04:43] although MS seems to be making a switch to cifs, smb is still popular for older ms installations [04:45] evo- (n=evo@p57ADA4A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [04:45] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [04:47] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:50] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:51] smb is depracated for cifs [04:51] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [04:52] slackweird: as noted :) [04:52] great, now we'll have to have a 'clifsa' =) [04:53] cant wait samba 4 releases [04:53] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [04:53] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:53] LF4: sbm (system message blocks) started life at IBM many moons ago, but was dropped due to overhead. ms picked up on smb back in windows 3.0 days and have been using it until recently when they decided to use CIFS (common internet file system) [04:54] s/system/server/ [04:55] :) thanks for the info alisonken1noc, now I have a question what do network file systems use? CIFS? [04:55] Natenom (n=Natenom@port-92-197-154-48.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [04:56] AFS [04:56] nfs (network file system) is a unix protocol that is native in linux. cifs is a microsoft protocol to replace smb. again, linux is trying to be compatible while ms is trying to be INcompatible [04:56] tommcd (n=tom@c-68-81-102-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:56] and mancha notes that AFS is another one as well [04:57] (afs is "andrews file system" for distributed networks) [04:57] Vazurro (i=5062b254@gateway/web/freenode/x-lamwwssbhiqxqbaf) left ##slackware. [04:57] lol I think I just need to go read up on all the different file systems out. :) Thanks for all the info. [04:57] np [04:58] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:58] Morning all [04:58] yo [04:58] back at work [04:59] LF4: although, I will say that CIFS does appear to fix some of the issues that nfs had (but that's from memory so can't give examples yet) [04:59] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [04:59] take care,slackers...talk with all later..happy tweakin' [05:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-115-165.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [05:01] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-234.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:02] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:02] when you see text like ESC[1mD but the ESC is highlighted how do you get the proper text? i changed my locale to utf, but that didn't help. [05:03] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:03] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [05:03] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:04] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-refxmcpivltjqhsp) joined ##slackware. [05:05] yesyes: that is an ansii escape sequence for terminal control/character color codes [05:05] so you need to see what TERM= is set to and see if it's allowing escape code terminal control [05:06] ah, thanks. [05:06] Action: yesyes points finger at screen [05:06] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:07] what does set -e do? it's not documented in the man page [05:07] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:08] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [05:09] exists if a command returns with a gremlin (non zero) exit code [05:09] exists=exits [05:09] ah, thanks [05:09] Ok.. does anyone have any experience of cross-site training? Desktop sharing, whiteboard services that kind of thing.. ive got about 3 hours to come up with a good solution.. or the apps manager will just pick the prettiest one off the shelf and make me support it... [05:11] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) joined ##slackware. [05:11] np [05:12] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Connection reset by peer [05:12] quasar: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uset.htm [05:13] there will be a kongoni [05:14] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:15] Zordrak: 3 hours is not much time :) especially if you want cross-site (linux+win+mac) capabilities. plus you need to know the learning environment needs (like filesharing capabilities, etc.) [05:15] FFS!! CEOs mail not working [05:16] mancha [05:16] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:16] Zordrak: not sure how well it is, but you can look at http://thecoccinella.org/download - btw, I haven't done classroom sharing since ~1992, so I don't know much about state of the art nowadays [05:18] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.209.192) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:18] what? [05:18] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [05:19] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@net-93-64-78-194.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [05:20] who? [05:20] mancha <--- [05:20] mancha: you missed [05:20] :) [05:20] no, who's on first [05:20] what's on second [05:20] yes [05:20] shouldnt exit code 123 identified by stderr? [05:21] be* [05:21] be identified* [05:21] smb, cifs are anti-unix, they've not unix attributes. [05:21] i don't know what that means, stderr is a file descriptor [05:21] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [05:21] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@net-93-64-78-194.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [05:21] mancha check this out: [05:22] processes can send stuff to stderr or not, the exit (or return code) is something related but independent [05:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [05:24] "sort: read failed:" with code 123 is ignoring 2> /dev/null [05:25] still going to sdtout [05:25] i already asked you to paste the full comand line and you answered to me "it doesn't matter" [05:25] >/dev/null 2>&1 [05:25] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [05:26] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.102) left irc: "Leaving" [05:26] well you need something like sort blah 1>/dev/null 2>&1 [05:26] Camarade1Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:26] CEO email resolved.... had manually set DNS while in the US >.< [05:27] I'm actually forcing this by doing this : find /usr/doc/cups-1.3.7/ iregex .*k3b*. 2> /dev/null | xargs sort -n [05:27] Zordrak: ah [05:27] that'll do it [05:27] hackeron (n=hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] alisonken1noc: they were still recursing for him.. but not resolving internal hosts [05:28] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:28] so you're not redirecting sort's 2 [05:28] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:28] find /usr/doc/cups-1.3.7/ iregex .*k3b*. 2> /dev/null | xargs sort -n 2>/dev/null [05:28] sorts 2 gets redird.. but not find [05:29] mancha: it looks like he's trying to get some output to sort, but the error is still coming out on stdout [05:29] other way around [05:29] brianfade.. ugh.. frigging Pseudo-Mondays [05:29] yes, alison, he is not redirecting sort's stderr, is why [05:29] slackweird: if your trying to sort, don't use xargs [05:29] oh yeah [05:30] xargs would be for something like "find . -empty | xargs rm" [05:32] you probably want a dash in front of iregex too [05:32] mancha: is this alisonken1noc your discipulus [05:32] discipulus? [05:32] sounds kinky [05:32] first time I heard of that one [05:32] mancha: I just typed real quick thats what got from errror [05:33] lol kinky [05:33] you should study the latin basics [05:34] spent too much time studying military acronyms :) [05:35] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [05:35] there's a bunch wrong with that find line, you should have: -iregex .*k3b.* [05:35] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@net-93-64-78-194.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [05:36] mancha: I just told you I typed not copied and pasted, plus didnt spellcheck too [05:36] either [05:36] plus I need to sleep... [05:38] also sort applies to the file contents, you sure you want that or do you want a sorted list of the found files? [05:40] I was forcing the syntax error to check why sort was not being identified by stderr... in fact I was not redirectin sort at all [05:40] Bugz_ (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-152.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [05:41] mancha macho man [05:41] do you copy? [05:41] well, the xargs would give funny results with sort anyway since xargs will run sort once for each instance of the input [05:41] just fyi [05:41] yes, it would sort all the lines per file.... [05:42] alisonken1noc: what should i set TERM to in order to get rid of those escape sequences in mutt's manual? i'm using screen via putty... I see the escape sequences with TERM set (and exported) as linux or screen or vt100... [05:42] what is putty emulating? [05:42] yesyes: you have to make sure putty is set to use the same terminal settings as your session [05:42] ah, thanks. [05:42] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:44] putty gets high marks, btw. nice little piece of freeware [05:44] mancha: and ported to iPod/iPhone and Symbian [05:45] nice [05:45] greetings to the slackworld [05:45] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-152.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [05:45] do you say: have a good month? or is it just a greek thing? [05:46] Thom1 (n=thom1@79.87.102.10) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [05:46] The-Croupier: greek thing [05:46] The-Croupier: greek or geek? [05:49] hoho [05:49] very, very evil problem [05:49] both [05:49] ;) [05:50] hows it going guys, everything alright in this part of the world? [05:50] LOL -- Just seen Sunday's Dilbert. Classic. [05:50] I get a segmentation fault in bash as soon as I hit tab, to tab complete a smb mount [05:50] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:50] ? [05:51] slackytude, > #bash [05:52] hahahah slackytude I bet $100 u just recompiled your kernel [05:52] nope [05:52] alisonken1church: are you alisonken1noc ? [05:52] not sure what happend [05:53] slackweird: yep - church and noc are just where I'm located (except church should now be home since that machine is at the house) [05:53] In the function keys and keypad settings in putty I've set it to Linux. And I've exported my TERM type to linux. But I still see the escape sequences. [05:53] slackweird: and right now I'm at noc :) [05:54] egrep alisonken[0-9].* [05:55] yesyes: typically, for putty I set term=vt102, then after logging in "export TERM=vt102 && reset" [05:55] slackweird: pretty much _just_ "alisonken1.*" :) [05:56] the number 1 seemed odd [05:56] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-181.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:56] mancha macho man... thanks [05:56] Bugz____ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-181.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:57] slackweird: you missed the discussion a few weeks ago - my wife's handle is allisonken and mine is alisonken1 (something to do with juno.com and email adx from dial-up days) [05:57] ok [05:58] mancha hey! you havent proved me yet " processes can send stuff to stderr or not, the exit (or return code) is something related but independent" show me an trivial and simple example [05:58] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:59] learn by examples is more efficient [05:59] I even get a segfault when I try to unmount the samba share :( [05:59] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.144.223) joined ##slackware. [05:59] hello :) [06:00] bash script: #!/bin/bash ; exit 123 [06:00] this is very bad [06:00] that script exits with code 123 and sends nothing to stderr [06:00] slackweird: echo "test" >1 ; echo "test stderr" >2 ; exit 123 <-- the exit command to bash says to return with a status code (note NOT TEXT) of 123 [06:01] #!/bin/bash; echo "wow" > /dev/stderr; exit 0 [06:01] Camarade1Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: "leaving" [06:01] that one prints to stderr and exits with a 0 code [06:02] exit 0 being defined as "exit with no errors" [06:02] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:02] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Client Quit [06:02] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:02] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [06:02] W T F [06:03] ejal (n=ejal@CBL217-132-119-33.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [06:03] Disney Buys Marvel(!!) [06:03] old news [06:03] still.. [06:03] who wins in a fight, superman or sorcerer mickey? [06:03] goofy [06:03] depends on who bought who [06:03] who has the bigger lawyer [06:03] shalom [06:05] I go with Sorceror Mickey because he was in Donald in Mathmagic Land [06:05] ejal ty shalom shalom [06:06] mornin [06:06] Action: slackweird goes to bed and gonna dream about mancha's examples... [06:06] hi Quiznos [06:06] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [06:06] hi [06:06] slackweird, what time is it? [06:06] :D [06:07] alisonken1noc: I have the req spec [06:07] slackweird: if you get this - remember, stdout and stderr are text streams, exit codes are numeric integers giving a program exit status of 0 (good) !0 (some code indicating what went wrong) [06:07] alisonken1noc: Share: Slides, Desktop, Live Audio & Support Audience Interaction [06:07] Zordrak: ok .... [06:08] alisonken1noc: !0 does what? [06:08] The-Croupier: !0 = 0 [06:08] =0 and != 0 [06:09] alisonken1noc: yep got that... ;) is that some kind of debugging option ? does it work like compiler error in programming languages? [06:09] no - just explaining to slackweird about program exit codes (integer) not being the same as text output to stdout and stderr [06:09] im not near a linux box atm.. sorry for asking stupid quetions, i just cannot try them to see [06:09] GoToMeeting has been suggested .. Citrix based [06:09] alisonken1noc: yep i got that one too, read above [06:10] Zordrak: gah - Citrix [06:10] I prefer DozeInMeeting by Sleeptrix [06:10] also WebEx [06:10] The-Croupier: I did - and it sounds like you were talking about something else [06:11] mancha: hah [06:11] Also freeconference.com [06:11] basically all externally hosted stuff [06:11] not sure if theres an internally hostable alterantive [06:11] well, desktop sharing can be done between linux, windows, and mac - like I said, though, it's just been a few decades since I was into that stuff [06:11] alisonken1noc: it often happens with me.. :( [06:12] ken, back up the wayBack machine; taht stuff hasnt been avail that long. [06:12] years but not decades. [06:12] Quiznos: I was working on a Navy research project at my last duty station - that's why it's not in wayback machine :) [06:12] Quiznos: not being evailable doesnt mean it wasnt happening [06:12] bozo. you know what i mean [06:12] ;) [06:12] WebEx looks disturbingly good [06:13] oh pls; if the DoD has somethin like that they'd be exploiting commerce to get it out [06:13] Zordrak: is that the flash player kind of thing? [06:13] Quiznos: and my answer still stands - the last time I was into desktop sharing stuff like that was at my last duty station at a Navy research facility [06:14] Quiznos: not when the subject is sensitive :) [06:14] what year? [06:14] alisonken1noc: how long ago are you talking about? more than 10years [06:14] The-Croupier: http://www.webex.com/media/ftvideo/uk/portable/movie.html [06:14] i'm aware of your limits [06:14] ken, what year? [06:14] Zordrak: yep, got that some time ago.. [06:14] it is very nice that [06:15] officially, it was 1993 at my last duty station, unofficially - ok might not have been "decades", but it was still late 1980's [06:15] Zordrak: that exists in slackware as well doesnt it? [06:15] 1993 sounds closer to reality and digital/programical tech :) [06:15] I could unmount it with -l option [06:15] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-34-141.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:15] still sucky [06:15] The-Croupier: what do youmean? [06:15] ken PM? [06:15] Quiznos: since gui stuff and video options were available bef [06:16] sorry - sure [06:16] nods [06:16] Zordrak: i mean, is there a pkg for it? did you find it in sbo? [06:16] mmm [06:16] The-Croupier: what, WebEx? [06:16] Zordrak: yep [06:16] gonna reboot... I'll be right back [06:16] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [06:16] nihilstar (n=nihil@89.136.243.243) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:16] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.144.223) left irc: "Minni vaiu!" [06:16] The-Croupier: uhh.. its a hosted platform.. [06:17] Zordrak: i downloaded something for windows, some time ago... [06:17] like a player kind of thing [06:17] client? [06:17] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8979F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:18] The-Croupier: its all browser-based nom it seems [06:18] webex, player and recorder ;) really nice one [06:18] nihilstar (n=nihil@89.136.243.243) joined ##slackware. [06:19] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:19] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [06:19] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [06:19] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Client Quit [06:19] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.24.10.7) joined ##slackware. [06:20] Nick change: theblackerbox -> theblackbox [06:21] I know it's not really ok but I only need that for a few hours: my windows7 beta/rc will now be shutting down every two hours but I need to do a few things first, anyone know how to extend that? even every 4 hours would be enough [06:21] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8979F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:21] argh, and now my system died [06:21] how? [06:22] first I couldnt open new programms, not even yakuake would drop down, then all apps froze, then mouse [06:22] Camarade_Tux i dont get it [06:22] Camarade_Tux: fail [06:22] had to raise elephants [06:22] slackytude sysrq-E? [06:22] Quiznos, REISUB [06:22] wally1337 (n=Administ@c220-239-226-27.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:22] Quiznos: win7 beta/rc reboots every two hours now :) [06:22] Quiznos: it's a timebomb put by ms >< [06:22] Camarade_Tux why? [06:22] Zordrak: somehow, yes [06:22] o [06:22] the secret reboot func() [06:22] rworkman looks like a really cool guy [06:22] best channel ever to ask windows questions in :D [06:23] Quiznos: so good I blogged it :) [06:23] C00re: hehe :P [06:23] heh [06:24] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) joined ##slackware. [06:24] C00re: occured to me some people would know or have pointers ;) [06:24] man, it cant be right if this slack machine is less stable than the win machines [06:24] slackytude so what's the prob? uptime indicators? [06:24] why does it want to reboot your win anyway? [06:25] installed something? [06:25] Quiznos, the prob is that I cant work if I have a machine that freezes [06:25] of course [06:25] beta != rc btw :) [06:25] oh frigging fantastic [06:25] C00re: nah, it's just to prevent you from using it :) [06:25] Full screen WebEx = Xorg death [06:25] INSTANT death [06:26] slackytude: happened once or is reproduceable? [06:26] Camarade_Tux: is that a cracked version you installed? (stupid question) [06:26] Camarade_Tux: install the RDM version then :P [06:26] The-spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) left irc: [06:26] The-Croupier : those versions were freely available [06:26] RTM* [06:27] Camarade_Tux, started to happen some time ago. can't reproduce it but its once per week now [06:27] not sure if the samba stuff is related [06:27] what was the last thing installed? [06:28] Quiznos, you mean me? no clue. didnt install anything in ages [06:28] k; review the times on log/packages to jog mem [06:28] The-Croupier: no no, it's a perfectly legit version but the two hour period is just too narrow, I need a bit more before I wipe it [06:28] C00re: the thing is I don't want to reinstall now, only in a few days [06:29] Camarade_Tux: sucks to be you [06:29] lifera, gconf, nss_ldap, sbopkg [06:29] so get used to it :P [06:29] slackytude: every seven days or about once a week? [06:29] Camarade_Tux: didn't think they were starting that until March o.O [06:29] its not far from the official release of win7 now anyway [06:29] Camarade_Tux, roughly once per week. had it happen twice on a day as well [06:29] slackytude nss, gconf and sbo i know; what's lifera? [06:30] the official release is avaible as torrents too :P [06:30] Quiznos, rss reader [06:30] k [06:30] quasar: for the RC it should be march and I think I have the rc... [06:30] slackytude next four? [06:30] (for the beta it was july/august) [06:30] there is some kind of cracks avaible for it too [06:30] ah.. I have the RC.. got it like 3 days before they announced that it would be official lol [06:30] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [06:30] slackytude: ssh still working? [06:31] Camarade_Tux, well, I rebooted, so, yes [06:31] Camarade_Tux, but Im gonna try that next time [06:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:32] slackware vs gentoo? [06:32] Quiznos, Im pretty sure its not the software [06:32] wally1337: easy vs painful? [06:32] slackytude ok; then what's left? [06:32] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) left ##slackware. [06:32] distrib flames are so 2008 [06:32] mancha: :) [06:32] Quiznos, if I knew I wouldnt be ranting [06:32] :> [06:32] i hear slackware doesnt support 64bit? [06:33] wally1337, it does [06:33] slackytude: you could try running windows and see if it happens too (if you dual-boo) [06:33] wally1337: you heard wrong [06:33] jekkt (n=jekkt@84.138.126.45) joined ##slackware. [06:33] Camarade_Tux, O_o [06:33] and do you dual-booze? xD [06:33] hi ho [06:33] slackytude that leaves bios, hw, non-GPG ware installed [06:33] slackytude: yeah, for one whole week :D [06:33] Camarade_Tux, nah! [06:33] wally1337: slackware64 v13.0 just released [06:33] slackytude: ^^ [06:34] wally1337: before that was slamd64 (which was 64-bit port of slackware) [06:34] Camarade_Tux, I never once booted into windows on this machine [06:34] slackytude: ok ;) [06:34] i got this very legally *cough* (not yet installed 'tho) MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.ULTIMATE.7600.16385.RTM.X86.RETAIL.ENGLISH.DVD-ZUKO [06:34] that even looks legal [06:34] MrException (n=rob@d209-121-14-88.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [06:34] C00re: you forgot the ".iso" at the end of the filename -_- [06:34] C00re : i suggest you keep it to yourself. [06:34] yeah ZUKO convinced me it wasn;t pirated [06:35] ananke: yea, nobody saw it :) [06:35] warez is against freenode's policy [06:35] MrException (n=rob@d209-121-14-88.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [06:35] MrException (n=rob@d209-121-14-88.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [06:35] the reason the intarwebs crawls with zombie boxes...all those pirated versions are trojaned out the yin yang [06:35] MrException (n=rob@d209-121-14-88.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [06:36] MrException (n=rob@d209-121-14-88.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [06:37] slackytude for craps and giggles, activate /sbin/logger to see what's running down there [06:37] and review var/log/* [06:37] no wait [06:37] /sbin/logger ? [06:37] initlog [06:37] no; initscript [06:38] sorry; not quite awake yet [06:38] no! FALCON PUNCH! [06:39] http://www.google.com/trends?q=windows+7%2C+crack&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0 ^^ [06:39] correlation factor > 0.85 ^^ [06:39] Quiznos, nifty, didnt know that existed [06:39] yw [06:40] slackytude and if you ahve the blocks; activate malloc's env-vars [06:40] see glibc.info [06:41] guys, i have this external wd.hdd that when i plug it in, it says it needs formatting, my brother has lots of stuff in it though, do you recommend any tools to at least extract the files there? [06:41] could lock-up be result of ram all used up? [06:41] The-Croupier simple dd to save part to file [06:41] testdisk ? [06:41] Quiznos: old legal nice dd then ;) ok... i think ive done that in the past [06:42] me too [06:42] thanks [06:42] yw [06:42] who loves scratching their eczema? [06:42] just make sure your disk has enough space to hold the partition file [06:42] if=/dev/part of=/path/file [06:42] The-Croupier : what happens when you try to access it under linux? [06:42] defaintely that what ken said [06:42] ananke: i will try that in 10mins, checking boss is not here [06:43] ;) [06:43] alisonken1noc: definately [06:43] The-Croupier: when you plug it in windows it says that? tried mounting it by hand in linux? both with ntfs and ntfs-3g? [06:43] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:43] Camarade_Tux: ill do that in 9mins checking boss isnot here ;) [06:43] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [06:44] The-Croupier: when will you do that? [06:44] (just checking you're down to 8 minutes now ;p ) [06:44] i wanted to be sure of the tool to use first, dont want to ruin, the guys disk [06:44] Camarade_Tux: ;) lol [06:44] sam_albuquerque (i=51b3258d@gateway/web/freenode/x-odottfzpmeteveiw) joined ##slackware. [06:47] any armedslack users here? [06:47] grinch (n=grinch@74-42-112-24.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:47] damn, cannot do it, boss is in the premises... :( has to wait for laterz [06:47] sam_albuquerque: not usually [06:47] sam_albuquerque: ask your question away though... [06:47] hmm.. any separate channel for armedslack then? [06:48] i was considering buying the SheevaPlug, but was wondering if armed slack supports USB audio on it [06:48] not really. your are the second guy with an armedslack question ever [06:48] you and that other guy could create a channel [06:48] I use kde 4 how can i do animated desktop wallpaper ? [06:49] sam_albuquerque: if other distributions support it, no reason armedslack doesn"t [06:49] s/"/'/ [06:49] sam_albuquerque, you run armed on what device? [06:49] hmm.. haven't read anywhere about USB audio support but have seen video of USB2VGA support running Ubuntu [06:50] havent run armed yet. Considering running it on the Marvell SheevaPlug and turning it into a HomePC [06:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [06:51] urf.. does anyone have a bad habit of putting a \ at the end of a line when writing stuff by hand? [06:51] lol [06:51] no [06:51] Action: quasar slinks back into the corner [06:51] I dont either >.> [06:51] tease [06:53] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:53] quasar: only in shell scripts :) [06:53] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [06:56] someone connect to ftp://ftp.cerias.perdue.edu/ pls [06:56] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.141) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:57] can't [06:57] Quiznos: no ping no connect [06:57] ty [06:57] that's one of our mirrors [06:57] alledgedly [06:57] address not found [06:57] nihilstar (n=nihil@89.136.243.243) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:58] k [06:59] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/ is very fast!! [06:59] wow its fast [06:59] how fast is it? [06:59] an ftp ls takes less than 1s [07:00] nihilstar (n=nihil@89.136.243.243) joined ##slackware. [07:01] tds is listed as 2xT3's in .us netland [07:02] oops Gig pipes; not t3 [07:02] tue university is purdue, typo perhaps [07:02] *the [07:03] Thom1 (n=thom1@10.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [07:03] ooo oops [07:03] having a Urkel moment; did i do that? [07:05] wow, there is still slackware 3.3 is some mirrors... man.. that is old [07:05] i have that here too in my Archive/ [07:05] how big is it? [07:05] The-Croupier: slackware.no has 1 [07:06] you really want a size? [07:06] i can look myself i guess :P [07:06] sure [07:07] myip:80, the dirnames are significant. [07:07] common sensely [07:07] Camarade_Tux: awsomeness [07:08] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:09] afk bbiab [07:09] mrselfpwn dont break anything :) [07:09] bbak [07:12] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-refxmcpivltjqhsp) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [07:12] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [07:14] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ncsrxxfuzwarzyll) joined ##slackware. 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[07:20] spook: last I checked, samba user/passwords have to be synced between unix user/passwords [07:20] starbrze_ (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:20] they have a separate utility for that [07:20] yep [07:20] xMDKx: saying, DOES ANYONE else have problems with VAGUE topic wont get you help [07:21] I have problem to change my keyboard layout; everything worked well with my old xorg.conf (from slack12.2) [07:21] starbrze_ (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:21] spook: it was just for initiat a start a conversation :) [07:21] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] ops [07:22] xMDKx: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=13 [07:22] read that. dont talk unless you do. [07:23] spook: I still use Xorg to do that.. [07:24] sam_albuquerque: read that blog post or shut up. [07:24] but thanks for the link [07:24] Zordrak: the part of the above article where you say 'mkdir -p /etc/hal/fdi/policy' is uneeded, the dir already exists [07:25] sahko: the command will succeed anyway, so theres no harm. [07:25] hi guys i want to login to a cisco swith using telent via a shell script [07:25] I have an unsupported ATI card and hence i need to fallback to Xorg.conf [07:25] bnhashmi: yeah. done that, whats the problem? [07:26] bnhashmi: happy coding [07:26] how i can guide scirpt to read password from file [07:26] sam_albuquerque: if you havent disabled hal input detection, you need to follow the blog post. [07:27] bnhashmi: two secs while i pastebin my script [07:27] spook:thanks [07:27] sahko: kk [07:27] hal is running.. but in my multi monitor setup one screen overlaps the other.. anyway will try a xorgless setup wheni get time.. thanks for the link anyway.. will bookmark it for later [07:28] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [07:28] bnhashmi: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/7DDiyP51.html [07:28] sam_albuquerque: xrandr? [07:28] sam_albuquerque: if you leave your inputs out of the xorg.conf it will use hal, and thats how you need to change the layout. [07:28] ya xrandr is what i used after 2 days of trial and error [07:28] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [07:28] interesting, I only needed xrandr for svideo output [07:29] spook:thanks a lot [07:29] but then, I still have to check my laptop external vga :) [07:29] bnhashmi: that took me waaaaay too much research to get working the first time. [07:29] but its great [07:30] spook: dialog didn't work for you? [07:30] yeah thought i'd save you the heart-ache i had of googling etc for hours to find that and get it working. [07:30] alisonken1noc: what? [07:30] sorry - chat? [07:30] chat-expect scripting [07:31] sahko: updated.. also fixed the space after "vi" [07:31] alisonken1noc: never really found anything suggesting dialog as a solution [07:32] well, actually it's "chat" - dialog is the ncurses interface for bash scripts [07:32] if i do it again i'll look at dialog, anything that saves me the use of sleep [07:32] ah, cool yeah i'll use that next time [07:32] mrselfpwn [07:32] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [07:34] spook: "man expect" [07:35] damn, Perdue's slack.mirror is totally unusable. [07:36] spook: on second thought, might not work with a telnet session [07:36] ken, what? [07:36] alisonken1noc: maybe maybe not. [07:39] Quiznos: why? [07:39] why what? [07:39] Quiznos: ? [07:39] ? [07:39] ^^ [07:39] use a noun [07:39] Quiznos : damn, Perdue's slack.mirror is totally unusable. [07:39] alot of the dir series are missing [07:39] empty [07:40] try slackware.no then ;) [07:40] yea; i'm on tds.net now [07:40] slackware.mirrors.tds.net [07:41] alisonken1noc re expect not working with telnet? [07:41] Quiznos: expect would work with a bash script, but not sure if a bash script will interact with a telnet session [07:42] ah [07:42] well shouldnt the two play together? bash calls expect to process input [07:42] there are telnet clients which can call an expect:send automated script, but not sure if stock telnet would work with that [07:43] alisonken1noc: what i have works fine for me. [07:43] but telnet is a client _program_ - bash script would stop at the telnet command and wait for telnet to close before continuing [07:43] ebay selling skype? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/technology/companies/01ebay.html?_r=1&ref=business [07:43] spook: looks good, too [07:43] expect [07:43] for interactive scripts [07:43] y0! [07:44] man expect [07:44] slackytude: with telnet? [07:44] aye [07:44] evo- (n=evo@p57ADA4A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:45] expect telnet first google hit [07:45] file cnt in xap/ is different than what's in my xap/ [07:45] should i be concerned? [07:45] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [07:45] remote xap/ to my xap/ [07:45] Quiznos: whats in it [07:46] slackytude: cool [07:46] 11 files dont match [07:46] nice generic expect script [07:46] http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9g43v/con_kolivas_creates_the_brain_fuck_scheduler_faq/ :o [07:46] txt files and install.end and install-packages [07:46] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:47] tarballs match name & size [07:47] Quiznos: are you still whinging about this sorta stuff? [07:47] not whining, just want to finish already [07:47] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) left ##slackware. [07:48] i saw your conversation with pat, on noobfarm and laughed for 20 minutes [07:48] spook: linky :) [07:48] my suggestions? [07:48] spook: link? [07:48] got it [07:48] alisonken1noc: search. 1 result [07:48] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:49] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:49] Zordrak: "search: pat Quiznos" ? [07:49] alisonken1noc: just Quiznos [07:49] ah [07:49] :) well, i wasnt tryin to be funi [07:49] Quiznos: you were [07:49] funny that is, wether you were trying or not [07:49] ok; i was alittle disappointed by his non-responses and general disinterest [07:49] hvnqke_work (n=per@90.184.202.237) joined ##slackware. [07:49] ok ) [07:50] yep - I remember reading that one [07:50] alisonken1church, yeah thats nice about expect [07:51] I forgot about the 'interact' command [07:51] wally1337 (n=Administ@c220-239-226-27.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [07:51] 2 days before my birthday.. my parents ask... "What do you want for your birthday?"... (bearing in mind they are more skint that I am atm) [07:51] fneh [07:51] skint ? [07:51] skant [07:51] penniless [07:51] as in "no money" [07:51] skant [07:51] i see [07:51] zero dollar [07:51] dont think that's the right word tho [07:52] Zordrak: I've gotten old enough that my response has mostly been "whatever you want, or a good steak dinner" [07:52] alisonken1noc: yeah.. thats pretty much what im gonna say [07:52] otherwise, a 24" wide tft for the bedroom would have been it :) [07:52] http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=skint <-- definition of "skint" [07:52] firedix (n=firedix@host89.201-252-184.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:52] can someone direct me to a link about how to setup samba with user security, the samba docs arent helpful at all. and my googling just gives me the samba docs [07:53] /etc/samba/smb.conf-sample [07:53] what questions do you have about it? [07:53] spook, if your smb.conf works, all you do is add users with smbpasswd [07:53] did that. [07:53] spook, smbpasswd -a USER PASS [07:53] still doesnt work, [07:53] it should [07:53] Am I supposed to roll my own CD image file from the stuff available from the FTP site, or is there just a .iso I'm missing? [07:53] is your firewall allowing stuff in/out ? [07:53] hvnqke_work what cd? [07:54] hvnqke_work, did you check out the torrents? [07:54] hvnqke_work: depends on the site whether iso's are made available [07:54] spook, what happens and paste your smb.conf. also did you do testparm? [07:54] hvnqke_work: mirrors usually have a slackware-13.0 and a slackware-13.0-iso directory [07:54] some ftp mirrors have iso's [07:54] hmmm [07:54] spook, are the users in windows land all lower case? [07:54] Samba doesn't like user names that are upper case in any way [07:55] windows doesnt care about it [07:55] AlinaM (n=chatzill@81.135.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [07:55] windows doesn't care about a lot of things - but samba is trying to emulate windows in *nix - big difference :) [07:56] guys, quick help with regex [07:56] I just browsed throught the "get slack" portion of slackware.com [07:56] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/U1D4NH62.html [07:56] find solution/metrics/ -regex '.*\(tmp\).cdfde' <- how can I change this to show everything that does NOT have that tmp block in there? [07:56] hvnqke_work, the torrents page is in the explanation at the top of the "get slack" page [07:57] Kaapa: negate the regexp with another switch [07:57] spook, should be able to access /array [07:57] slackytude: it asks for a password, i input the user/pass is set with smbpasswd [07:57] then it says wrong [07:58] try as a guest, leave it blank [07:58] does user password match samba password? [07:58] Kaapa ... [07:58] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [07:58] Kaapa ! -regex [07:59] i.e. adduser (etc) then smbpasswd -a (etc) [07:59] slackytude: inputting nobody as the user, it still says not accessible [07:59] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:59] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:59] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:00] spook, and array is mounted? [08:00] slackytude: yes. [08:00] hrm [08:01] logs dont provide any helpful information [08:02] slackytude: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/v4fJu236.html [08:03] installing 12.2 x/ [08:03] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-igmlinggvstfewnu) joined ##slackware. [08:04] srecko (n=srecko@93.138.118.26) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [08:07] i've been mischaracterised as funi on noobfarm; the only funi is PAt's final line about holy paper. [08:08] to you perhaps [08:08] when taken in context, the whole conversation is worth a chuckle, not just pat's final reply [08:08] well yea; but like i said, being on the reading end i was disappointed [08:10] true [08:12] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [08:13] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [08:13] opera 10 released [08:13] oooh! [08:13] Nick change: Guest55602 -> EuroTrash [08:14] ibm patents facebook remote control [08:14] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-evgqaebahekqpkdx) joined ##slackware. [08:14] a remote control for couch taters [08:15] guys how can I get output of some process to the console [08:16] hrad: run it from a console? [08:16] hrad: ctrl+c [08:16] output from where? [08:16] it's running and can't be stopped [08:16] hrad: sorry read output as out [08:16] grazymax (n=grazymax@host15-134-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:16] there is a process running and I need to get output of it to console [08:16] output from where? [08:17] hrad: whats the process? [08:17] hrad: run it from a console? [08:17] it is an instance of an application on weblogic server [08:17] I would, but it can't be stopped [08:18] I'm sure that it can be done but I completely forgot how [08:19] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:19] _bruno (n=bruno@189.29.241.129) joined ##slackware. [08:19] make it log to a file? [08:20] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:22] spook, sorry, gotta work [08:23] http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/funny-pictures-cat-is-not-compatible-with-laptop.jpg [08:23] slackytude: okay. [08:24] hrad: gdb? "attach " command to gdb might work, but haven't tried it [08:25] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[08:29] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [08:30] Does anyone have verlihub 0.9.8e-r2 slackware package [08:31] agentc0re: haha the three wolf shirt I never got how people were so crazy about it. [08:31] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [08:31] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:32] LF4: "As soon as my boyfriend put it on i became pregnant. Thanks 3 wolf t-shirt." That's how! :P [08:33] Hahaha obviously because thats how people have been getting pregnant for all the years... lol not by other means. [08:33] look how many comments the old geezer at walmart got :) [08:33] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [08:33] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:34] slackytude: oh its only working on one windows machine lol [08:34] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [08:35] lol [08:36] agentc0re: I gave in and checked the site... I think the funniest comment to the first review is the first one that "customers didn't think added to the discussion" so Amazon automagically hid it :) [08:37] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [08:37] quasar: heheh. i will slowly lure you back in to your safe zone... then WHAM!!! Booha!!! :P j/k [08:37] A comment to the walmart guy... this is why we have the internet. THANK YOU, Bee dot G.; wow this is why the internet is dangerous for some. [08:38] agentc0re: have you shown that to LF4? I think he'd enjoy it just as much as I did [08:38] take note of 'tuscan milk' product, under 'also viewed' section [08:38] "Lupin spirit excites my loins to frothing" lmao [08:38] LF4: Professor Pepperwinkle says: "Does this design come on underwear? That's where I need it most! " [08:39] quasar: lol.. no not yet. [08:39] haha [08:40] agentc0re quasar what site are you two talking about? :) [08:40] quasar: i'm going to let you go ahead and give him that link :) [08:40] the amazon.com review of a 3-wolves howling at the moon tshirt [08:41] you sure? I mean, you're the one that found it originally.. dont want to steal your thunder man.. [08:41] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-116-114.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:42] alisonken1noc: I think they are talking about another part of amazon come to think of it... agentc0re are you spending your time looking for random odd reviews on amazon? haha [08:43] LF4: http://tinyurl.com/l6htmc [08:43] warning: not for underage [08:44] ^^^ = NSFW lol [08:44] LMAO [08:44] er.. wrong one [08:44] LF4: no, friend sent it to me. [08:44] sorry.. [08:45] hahaha [08:45] quasar: lol [08:45] LF4: http://tinyurl.com/2g9m <--- SFW [08:45] Action: quasar wonders how he got those two mixed up [08:45] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.69.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:45] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-77-205.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:45] and then typo'd it [08:45] Action: quasar tries one more time [08:46] "I am alone. Life is my struggle. Broken spirit. I am alone. I put on the shirt. I phux bears." [08:46] hehehe [08:46] quasar: :/ sure haha thats why I dislike tinyurl lol [08:46] LF4: http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh [08:46] no, it's SFW.. promise [08:46] quasar: ok - tell us what you _really_ want :) [08:46] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:437) joined ##slackware. [08:46] alisonken1church: figure out which URL I want to paste *before* I paste it :) [08:46] LF4: booya!!! [08:47] agentc0re: huh? [08:47] booya is right :) [08:47] alisonken1noc: lmao!! [08:47] lol [08:48] LF4: you didn't watch that first link? [08:48] I phux bears is epic. that should be a shirt in itself. [08:49] lol no just saw alisonken1noc comment on it [08:49] LF4: it's a must watch. [08:49] agentc0re: haha yeah I thought that was funny. [08:49] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:49] agentc0re: lol i really don't know if I want to see that haha [08:49] shit, i gotta get ready for work.. later. [08:50] agentc0re: later [08:50] LF4: dude, if you watch porn... then it's nothing new. it's actually funny. [08:50] Booya!!! [08:54] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-12-114.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:59] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-evgqaebahekqpkdx) left irc: "Page closed" [08:59] $5 foot long. [09:00] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [09:01] afnhryhrffff (n=h@host81-157-254-76.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:01] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:01] ive downloaded first 3 cd of slack13 is that enough to install kde ? [09:01] why not the dvd? [09:01] one of my old pc's on has a cdrom [09:01] should be.. last 3 are source I believe [09:02] afnhryhrffff: yes, it is [09:02] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [09:02] k thanks ..go and burn them and install :) [09:02] afnhryhrffff (n=h@host81-157-254-76.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [09:04] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-78-214.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:05] back to the wolf shirt: Mary's Mom: "I don't know why you think this doesn't work. Since my boy Marius got this shirt the dog humps his leg non stop" [09:06] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:09] Kaapa__ (n=Somethin@bl7-76-91.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:10] _ (n=_@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [09:11] grr [09:11] Nick change: _ -> Guest1870 [09:11] just discovered i have no sound after upgrade [09:11] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-77-205.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:11] Nick change: Kaapa__ -> Kaapa [09:11] Nick change: Guest1870 -> suid0_ [09:14] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [09:14] lshal shows the device, snd-hda-intel module loads without error [09:14] but alsaconf cant pick the card (mobo-integrated) up [09:15] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:17] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:18] hmmm wait a minute.. i DID have audio when virtualbox booted windows [09:19] hmm.. not anymore [09:19] mohaa (n=mohaa@190-93.us.ool.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:20] i bet vbox trashed my sound.. reboot time [09:20] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:21] although it could have been wmhen X died when i *dared* to try to fullscreen a java app running in FF [09:22] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:22] NetNightmare (n=Giuseppe@217.22.209.248) joined ##slackware. [09:22] you should know better [09:22] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-78-214.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:22] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:23] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:23] kernel 2.6.31 includes a memory leak detector [09:24] cool. [09:24] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:24] hmm i tell you something else.. its taking too long for my network to start... mounting NFS dirs during boot has to wait for ages and even then only works with IPs.. with hostnames dns just fails and it errors [09:24] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-236-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:25] reboot fixed sound [09:25] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:26] ugh.. and i still cant get Pidgin to make any sound at all :( [09:27] heg [09:27] alsamixer [09:28] hmm.. plot thickens.. sound working.. alsaconf still cant pick the card up... ihas it been usurpd by hal? [09:28] 3 virtual machines each with 1gb of ram on a machine with 2gb of ram and 2gb swap. does not make for a responsive machine. [09:28] Zordrak: check alsaconfig and make sure pidgin selects the right output [09:29] spook: woot [09:29] alisonken1noc: ^ alsaconf fail [09:30] thats right - sorry, had a headache all night [09:31] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:32] ahah [09:33] gstreamer: A WAV decoder plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed. [09:37] hmmmmm [09:37] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:38] Everyone goes to lunch when Zordrak has a problem :( [09:38] Action: quasar puts the $5 foot long down. [09:38] or has caffeine hedaches while trying to work :) [09:39] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [09:40] im so sick of having to append -ubuntu to every google search [09:40] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [09:44] Zordrak, why ubuntu. one can use google.com/linux. [09:45] -ubuntu omits results that contain the word "ubuntu" [09:46] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [09:46] sodo (n=unknown@host81-141-52-212.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] vantech1 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:48] gst-inspect includes audio-x-wav in its list [09:50] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:53] quasar: I'm wondering how much longer that booya video will stay up on youtube :) [09:53] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:57] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:57] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [09:57] thougth it was a sterile project video o.o [09:57] doh! [09:58] still would be interesting to see how long before someone points out TOS on youtube :) [09:58] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [09:58] if it didn't show on the front page for more than a minute I'd give it a couple days [09:59] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:59] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] embed it into a myspace page, that'll last a week at least [10:01] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:01] Found the problem [10:02] for some reason i cannot fathom, slack ships with gstreamer but doesnt ship with gst-plugins-good [10:02] why would that be? [10:03] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl1-236.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:03] it just ships base [10:03] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:03] i can understand not wanting -bad or -ugly.. but -good is kinda important to gstreamer [10:04] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Fuck off with your Star Trek ideas" [10:04] then install it [10:04] nothing in slackware needs it [10:04] in this case for example.. pidgin wont play sound without it [10:04] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [10:04] thrice`: ^ in slackware [10:04] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:05] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [10:06] Nick change: init[4] -> init[3] [10:06] initself: enough already with the levels [10:07] ahem.. sorry initself [10:07] init[3]: enough already with the levels [10:07] Zordrak: it done to retain my all levels [10:07] s/it/its/ [10:07] init[3]: im suprised you havent been warned already [10:07] Zordrak, pidgin not playing sound with gstreamer? [10:07] its analagous to away-nicks which are not tolerated [10:08] Zordrak: i don't change nicks often [10:08] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-115-238.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:08] slackytude: no.. because in needs the wav plugin.. which doesnt come with slackware [10:08] Zordrak: may be once in 2 days [10:08] slackytude: its in gst-plugins-good [10:08] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:09] Zordrak, that sucks [10:09] as thrice` alluded to.. if slack didnt ship with anything that needed it id kinda understand.. but it does [10:09] Action: Zordrak pokes alienBOB [10:09] Zordrak: you can use mplayer to play it [10:09] instead of that plugin [10:10] i use mplayer [10:11] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:11] WOO!! Pissing it down outside.. *really* hard [10:12] can anyone run 'nm /usr/lib*/glib2*.so | grep g_thread_init' [10:12] does it return anything? [10:13] '/usr/lib*/glib2*.so': No such file [10:13] Camarade_Tux: ^ [10:13] init[3]: hmmm, what's the glib2 sofile, hmmmm [10:13] NNightmare (n=Giuseppe@217.22.209.248) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Camarade_Tux: it's in libgthread-2.0.so [10:15] ah ok :) [10:15] plus I had forgotten to prepend 'lib' to the filename ;) [10:15] pprkut: thanks :) [10:15] np :) [10:15] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:15] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-igmlinggvstfewnu) left irc: "Page closed" [10:16] Action: Camarade_Tux not on slack right now [10:16] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [10:16] Camarade_Tux: no symbols [10:17] argh, stripped [10:17] anyone uses torrentflux? [10:17] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl5-180-243.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:18] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-76-91.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:18] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [10:18] I want to test other torrent client with the option of set the download path for each torrent like ktorrent [10:19] i do not like all downloads stuff on one dir [10:19] it's not often supported [10:19] rtorrent does it [10:19] even transmission iirc [10:20] let me see them [10:21] mohaa (n=mohaa@190-93.us.ool.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:22] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:23] blahblah (n=blahblah@adsl-76-215-211-244.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] question [10:23] err .. i have 2 wireless routers .. 1 of them has internet and the other one dosen't .. is there anyway i can make the non internet router an Access point so it can connect to the router with internet and the non router itself get internet [10:23] answer! [10:24] didnt you just ask that in #windows? [10:24] you could try to bridge them, some support that [10:24] lol your on that many channels .. slackytude you ask in multiple channels so you get diffrent answers .. if one chan dosen't ask you ask in another [10:24] blahblah: let me guess, you asked here because you thought we knew a lot and could help? [10:25] well, he is right, we do know a lot [10:25] NetNightmare (n=Giuseppe@217.22.209.248) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:25] no im just asking in diff channels .. everyone has there own experience [10:25] we have big brainz [10:25] windows still hasn't responded [10:25] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:25] I Tarzan, I smart, I big brain [10:26] slackytude the way the routers are positioned in the house are not close [10:27] i have a compuer with no internet on it w/ the non router attached to it .. i have another computer with internet across the room [10:27] I meant wireless bridging [10:27] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:27] oo sounds nice [10:28] well, if it works [10:28] some of our stuff here does it [10:28] Action: blahblah youtubes it [10:29] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_bridge [10:29] psys (n=punk@189.23.113.62) joined ##slackware. [10:29] does anyone have a good idea for a school project on network security? [10:30] war driving! [10:30] yea [10:30] use the school bus [10:30] hehehe [10:30] if it is wep it can be cracked in under 10 mins [10:30] we've done that for another project =/ [10:30] really? impressive [10:30] feinoM, SELinux and Mandatory Access Controls ;-p [10:30] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:31] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.141) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Or how about "Why two firewall solutions running at the same layer will conflict and BSOD" :P [10:31] hang wireshark on the school network and listen in to other peoples connection ^-^ [10:31] lol [10:31] nice [10:32] hehe [10:32] How Back Orifice 2000 works? [10:32] :P [10:32] After all BO2K is FLOSS :P [10:32] MUCH better idea [10:32] why all vpn should bxe SSL not IPSec [10:33] Zordrak, erm... why should they be? So people can get their Debian boxen hax0red? :P [10:33] how to tunnel out of restricted networks, always popular at schools [10:33] Zordrak, IPSec is integrated into IPv6 is it not? [10:33] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.141) left irc: Client Quit [10:34] yeah [10:35] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:437) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:35] NthDegree: go read some whitepapers on SSL VPN (like OpenVPN) [10:37] Xires012 (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:38] Zordrak, erm... the fact that IPSec VPNs can tunnel more than TCP is surely an advantage for IPSec? [10:39] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [10:40] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [10:41] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Client Quit [10:41] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. 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[10:52] NthDegree: and for that matter, openvpn uses UDP by default [10:52] usb boot image can mount over samba [10:52] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:52] \o/ [10:53] Zordrak: tunnel - encapsulate one protocol into a different protocol [10:53] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Zordrak, I mean IPSec integrates and can tunnel any protocol without the software needing to cater especially for it [10:53] v4nelle (n=Nelle@79.103.231.205) joined ##slackware. [10:53] what software? [10:53] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [10:53] While SSL runs over TCP/UDP and can only tunnel a certain number of protocols IIRC [10:54] blahblah (n=blahblah@adsl-76-215-211-244.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:54] NthDegree: layer 2 (tap) tunneling is protocol agnostic... [10:55] ah right.. [10:56] (i dont use/dont like layer3/tun) [10:56] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Action: NthDegree was under the impression that it could only tunnel TCP and UDP protocols (and ICMP) but not anything else [10:56] oh hell no [10:56] it tunnels OVER udp.. but can run down as far as layer2 [10:56] he is right tho that ipv6 uses ipsec [10:56] Since some common examples of SSL VPNs such as Hamachi suffer from that limitation [10:57] etf (i=bd1f1151@gateway/web/freenode/x-npnznptcloguaxhr) joined ##slackware. [10:57] NthDegree: the problem is.. most common examples of SSL VPN arent actually a VPN at all [10:57] they are basically application gateways.. but mislabelled [10:58] NthDegree: http://www.sans.org/rr/whitepapers/vpns/1459.php [10:58] feinoM: So theres your topic right there and a whole whitepaper of detail [10:59] feinoM: a good report on that deserves an A wherever you are [11:00] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:03] Zordrak, reading that whitepaper it seems like IPSec sucks outside of a large enterprise [11:04] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:04] Zordrak: I did my bachelor thesis on OpenVPN, so I'm looking for something a little different this time :) Thank you for the idea though :) [11:04] I totally forgot about the need to have a good, reliable router with IPSec in order for tunneling to work correctly >_> [11:05] lol. [11:05] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:06] spook, solved your samba issue? [11:07] almost time to go home [11:07] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:07] slackytude: yeah there was no problem, except with the windows machine [11:07] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [11:08] from another windoze box it worked fine [11:08] NthDegree: part of the reason our old IPSec vpn was so shit (other that it depended entirely on software written by sonicwall which i wouldnt use to wipe my own arse with) is that it needed SO much processing and even though the device was sold as capable of tons of connections at once.. it started to chug with only 5 simultanous users [11:08] OpenVPN on Slack64 however is working beautifully and inst even noticing 10 users.. its barely doing anything [11:09] lol :) [11:09] spook, ha [11:10] (the ancients are back) Raytheon to purchase BBN [11:10] Action: slackytude is off [11:10] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8979F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "offski" [11:11] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:11] Zordrak: do you know if it's possible to connect a mobile phone to OpenVPN? That's the only thing I'm missing :) [11:11] feinoM: only if openvpn has been ported to the phone [11:11] my symbian S60v3 doesnt [11:12] http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bigpicturefire,0,5985825.htmlstory [11:12] i have s60v3 as well..:/ [11:12] suid0_ (n=_@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" [11:13] Zordrak, if that's really the case... then what about IPv6? That's gonna suck too theoretically [11:13] Nick change: Bugz_ -> Bugz [11:13] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.0.6) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Nick change: Bugz___ -> Bugz_ [11:15] NthDegree: Im not qulified to comment. I don't knom enough about IPv6. [11:15] ah [11:15] But i CAN say there is *no* reason I know that OpenVPN cant run on IPv6 the same way it runs on IPv4 [11:15] yeah ipv6 will suck for anything embedded [11:15] unless they embed linux :) [11:16] whatever the addressing mechanism.. the packets and ports are the same [11:16] alisonken1church, IPv6 was one of the vulnerable bits of code in the latest (exploitable since 2002) discovered root exploit :P [11:19] Action: NthDegree wonders why they can't just add another decimal block [11:19] follow-up: actually win7 doesn't shutdown every two hour [11:19] etf (i=bd1f1151@gateway/web/freenode/x-npnznptcloguaxhr) left irc: [11:19] it has only deactivated the "aero" thing [11:19] Camarade_Tux, turn off Software Protection and such.. then it does nothing [11:19] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [11:19] as far as users are concerned, it shuts down :) [11:19] if it's the only thing that changes when the 30-day period is over... [11:19] you know how the typical user is [11:19] think I won't have trouble with win7 ^^ [11:20] As far as users are concerned.. just rip out the licencing components [11:20] it's not that hard [11:20] I'm really happy with that :) [11:20] with Vista you could remove DigitalProductid at one stage and it would still be bootable [11:20] etf (n=eu@189.31.17.81) joined ##slackware. [11:20] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:20] With Windows 7 you just disable a few services [11:20] then it cannot retrieve activation information [11:21] You will still occasionally get the "you're not genuine" bits, but outside of that it still works perfectly [11:21] ip-route (n=iproute@200.172.83.136) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:21] and Aero Glass didn't work on any system I tried with the RC anyway O_o [11:21] etf (n=eu@189.31.17.81) left irc: Client Quit [11:21] (that said, I never activated the system) [11:22] quick_ (n=quick@ip-161-16.powernet.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:22] grazymax (n=grazymax@host15-134-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:22] ok; so i installed 12.2/x/* and x wont start bc fixed font is missing; grep fails to find it `cant open default font fixed' [11:22] NNightmare (n=Giuseppe@217.22.209.248) left irc: "Leaving" [11:22] NthDegree: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=93 [11:22] :) [11:22] Quiznos, slackpkg reinstall x [11:22] Quiznos, that fixed that issue for me [11:22] i've already done that [11:22] 12.2's x/ [11:23] 13's x wont work here [11:23] hi i have some issues with asus notebook power saving features [11:23] first of all i can not change the brightness level from the powersave profiles [11:24] NthDegree anything else? like, what file fixed font is in? [11:24] hvnqke_work (n=per@90.184.202.237) left irc: "Leaving" [11:24] nor can scale the frequency of the cpus [11:24] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [11:24] Quiznos, I tried poking around when I got that, to no avail [11:25] I just reinstalled every font package [11:25] then it magically worked [11:25] ok ty [11:28] zoztrix (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:29] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:30] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:31] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:32] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.141) joined ##slackware. [11:33] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:33] corte (i=982bf00a@gateway/web/freenode/x-lfwtifigfindwrul) joined ##slackware. [11:35] Nick change: fuzzix_ -> fuzzix [11:35] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [11:36] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:36] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:36] wow, i knew it! http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/08/31/188228/Military-Helmet-Design-Contributes-To-Brain-Damage [11:38] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [11:39] what doesn't cause brain damage from the militia [11:39] necos, m y tour is giving me a massive headache [11:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:40] >.> [11:40] what did you break? [11:40] nothing [11:40] the trackball sucks [11:41] yours is verizon ? [11:41] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:41] / [11:41] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-138.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] anyone know why my x (with legacy nvidia driver) wouldn't be able to launch after booting using vesafb? it crashes! [11:41] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@m4c0436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] avfvty (n=h@host81-158-80-0.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:41] corte: nvidia installs its own libs [11:41] ? [11:41] corte: reinstall the mesa package [11:41] lol [11:41] necos, verizon or sprint you turd [11:41] yes, verizon [11:41] when did you get it [11:41] last month [11:41] zoztrix (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:41] corte: next time, install the nvidia driver with the slackbuilds on slackbuilds.org and use nvidia-switch to switch between versions [11:41] ~3 weeks ago [11:41] johndee (n=id@93-81-3-221.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:42] hmmmmmmm, look at your box.. does it have a green dot on it ? [11:42] Camarade_Tux: thanks! i'm in class right now but i'll be sure to try this when i get home [11:42] my box is at home :P [11:42] can you download packages from /extra online ? [11:42] check when you get home [11:42] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.204.117) joined ##slackware. [11:42] corte: next time.. use the proprietary driver [11:42] (if it exist for your hardware) [11:42] if you get nvidia proprietary drivers from their website it works flawlessly [11:43] i did download from the site [11:43] i have to re-install the module every time i recompile my kernel [11:43] corte: yup.. but since its automated and takes like 3 mins.. [11:43] thats one of the drawbacks [11:43] yep :) [11:43] anyway Necos, the one with the green box has the trackball issue fixed [11:44] Zordrak: it was after this point when i attempted to launch x that it crashed, though. i'll try re-installing mesa [11:44] jeev, will do :P [11:44] but you shouldnt have to switch to them each time [11:44] if you use a default tour, the original [11:44] omnidroid: so what am i switching to? [11:44] i only d/loaded the 1st three cd's ...do i have to get another cd or can i get extras online ...i only need qt3-3.3.8b-i486-opt1.txz [11:44] you'll cry.. you have to fight for 15 minutes to get into settings to change trackball sensitivity to 90, i had to go down and move something up finally to be able to move it down to options [11:45] avfvty: online, for sure - just click around a mirror [11:45] gtg, class [11:45] i havent had any issues with the trackball so far [11:45] eww, trackball :) [11:45] k thrice [11:45] thanks [11:45] i'm sure you got the newer one [11:45] came out 2 and a half weeks after original [11:45] i just found out [11:46] i did read something about that on crackberry tho [11:46] really, go for the slackbuilds, the nvidia installer doesn't care about keeping your system clean [11:46] i didn't realize there was a slackbuild, but i prefer them over anything else [11:46] Camarade_Tux: no no no [11:46] comrad [11:46] Zordrak: yes yes yes [11:46] Camarade_Tux: no. [11:46] Zordrak: yes. [11:46] hi jeev :) [11:47] john_dee (n=id@93.81.139.157) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:47] the slackbuild is also better if you need to patch anything (which I've already done several times [11:47] ) [11:47] Camarade_Tux: The NVidia installers are capable of uninstallation [11:47] and nvidia-switch is worth it [11:47] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [11:47] Camarade_Tux: and they write it JUST for the purpose of installing their dhriver [11:47] and its good [11:48] Zordrak: but you don't want to install/uninstall, switching is much better, it's like ten times faster [11:48] what's the switching actually switch between? [11:48] wat switching? [11:48] theres only two reasons to use the slackbuild for it. 1: laziness, 2: evangelism [11:48] also, having kernel and libs separated is better imho because it means you can recompile your kernel without needing to reinstall the libs which is everything but fast [11:48] no, switching the libraries is cleaner than blindly overwriting them [11:49] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [11:49] corte: switching the libs used (the ones the nvidia installer loves to overwrite) [11:49] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.27) joined ##slackware. [11:49] haha, gotcha [11:49] wat switching? [11:49] Yeah.. im always rolling back and forth around display drivers.. just installing the one that works would be daft O_o [11:50] nvidia provides its own GL libraries, and overwrites those on the system [11:50] Zordrak: reason 1. (lazyness) is enough then unless you think the slackbuild doesn't work as well as the nvidia installer [11:50] Zordrak: I do (switching often) [11:50] fbdo# [11:51] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] i feel like i don't know enough up about kernel & libs..any good (less cryptic) faqs around? [11:52] corte: about what specifically? [11:53] Zordrak: well, put it this way, i didn't understand what was meant by "having the kernel and the libs separated is better imho because it means you can recomiple your kernel without needing to reinstall the libs" [11:53] i figured the libs were always separated from the kernel? [11:53] ok; i was eating finger food so i couldnt type; [11:53] corte: depends on whether by libs you mean modules [11:54] thrice` "switch"ing what? from one dir(-tree) to another instead of overwrite? [11:54] Zordrak: yeah i didn't mean modules, but i guess that's what that statment applies to [11:54] Srbo (n=Srbo@84.58.192.159) joined ##slackware. [11:55] meh.. hes french.. dont expect to understand everything ;) [11:55] this sounds like a usr/local versioning, stow, toast, etc [11:55] haha [11:55] Quiznos: nvidia-switch will back up the system libraries (eg, mv libGL.so libGL.so.backup) before installing [11:55] thrice` so it is a versioning of -sort? [11:56] avfvty (n=h@host81-158-80-0.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:56] fsteim (n=pedro@189.35.67.193) joined ##slackware. [11:56] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.204.117) left irc: "Leaving" [11:56] quick_ (n=quick@ip-161-16.powernet.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:56] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:56] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:56] k_wolf (n=wolf@mx1.mdb.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:57] corte read the file hierarchy standard to see why things are placed in the file tree [11:57] (FHS) [11:58] Quiznos: thanks :)! [11:58] yw [11:58] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) joined ##slackware. [11:58] hey jeev... [11:58] corte usr/doc/* [11:59] is unlimited blackberry messenger included in your data plan? [11:59] is scp speed bottle-necked by processor speed usually? [11:59] i dont berry [11:59] evo- (n=evo@p57ADA4A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [11:59] mrselfpwn did you see my Archive/? [11:59] if you're using high compression, yes... [11:59] no Quiznos. which archive? [12:00] archive/tar? [12:00] where slack 3.3 and older are [12:00] oh, no. i went to slackware.no [12:00] k [12:00] Quiznos: referring me to the slackware doc? :P [12:00] yea the faq's and howto's on hd [12:00] what's your link Quiznos? [12:01] cable [12:01] slower than .no [12:01] what's the url? [12:01] myip:80 [12:01] whois me [12:01] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:01] Quiznos [12:02] hi [12:02] i'm j/k. i got it [12:02] k [12:02] :P [12:03] mrselfpwn did you find url? [12:03] yes [12:03] k [12:04] whereis it under Archive? [12:04] topdir [12:04] i see i found it. [12:05] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:05] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [12:07] k_wolf (n=wolf@mx1.mdb.com.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:08] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:09] anyone experiencing any issues with slackware 13 and there clock going out of sync [12:09] run ntpd [12:09] i configure kde to use a ntp server after a reboot it forgets [12:09] kde doesnt do ntpd [12:09] add to rc.local [12:10] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ncsrxxfuzwarzyll) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:12] CmdLnKid_ (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [12:12] cheers ill have a look into it, however kde does give me the option to use ntp for my time [12:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/session) joined ##slackware. [12:12] It's possibile to install the seconde cd with slackpkg? Any suggestion will be welcome from the heart!! [12:12] ok but that's too feral for me [12:12] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:12] kde's too far up the food-chain [12:13] :) [12:13] ntpd is a kernel level thing [12:13] or really close to it [12:13] RockNRolla (n=RockNRol@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) joined ##slackware. [12:13] adeodatus ftp cd2 [12:14] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] true [12:15] Quiznos: how to cd2 with ftp? [12:15] you dont know howto use a ftp client? [12:15] kde should fail if you ntp (unless you're a member of a group that can change system time) [12:15] jigp_ (i=allan@ti500720a080-0841.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [12:15] ntp_gettime() returns code 5 (ERROR) [12:15] psys (n=punk@189.23.113.62) left irc: "Leaving" [12:15] Quiznos: no, I do not!! [12:16] jigp (i=allan@85.166.210.13) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:16] adeodatus ok time to learn to use it; do you use `mc'? (midnight commander) [12:16] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [12:16] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [12:17] why can't he use slackpkg? >.> [12:17] morning [12:17] I don't mc. Why? [12:17] Necos he can but i dont know it; go ahead with him [12:17] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:17] adeodatus use slackpkg [12:17] is there a way to update glib on slackware64 13.0? [12:17] lol i don't either (don't use slackpkg), but so far as i know, it's fairly straight forward [12:17] morning missyjane [12:18] :) Necos [12:18] adeodatus ok; use any browser you have to download the other iso's [12:18] Quiznos: ok i try!! [12:19] I get error while configuring gtk+-2.16.6 about my glib being old. [12:19] how old? [12:19] Quiznos: Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.19.7' but version of GLib is 2.18.4 [12:19] eh? [12:20] siddharth-c run autoreconf in src dir [12:20] harryirene (n=gapinski@adsl-99-60-254-34.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] I am a newbie. Do you mean the / directory [12:21] source dir [12:21] it won't help if it needs the entire GTK stack updated. the one in 13 is old [12:21] I love the smell of napalm in the morning. [12:21] gtk source directory right? [12:21] i'll try it out [12:21] quasar i dint like that movie [12:21] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:21] quasar alittle to surreal and existentialist for my taste [12:22] Nick change: RockNRolla -> JavaShin [12:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Quiznos: haven't seen the movie.. I got it from a game called "Scorched Earth" [12:23] i'm going to donate my tax return to slackware. [12:23] it's a line o dialog from a late 70s very early 80s movie [12:23] google that line [12:24] Nick change: JavaShin -> [JavaShin] [12:24] sodo (n=unknown@host81-141-52-212.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:25] twinkie_addict (n=david@cpe-24-95-93-218.columbus.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:26] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] afternoon all [12:26] hi [12:26] Action: hitest liked Apocalypse Now [12:26] yea that's the movie name [12:26] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) joined ##slackware. [12:26] quasar Apocalypse Now [12:26] alittle to surreal and existentialist for my taste [12:27] lol [12:27] Action: Necos prods jeev [12:27] $270 is what i should get back on my tax return [12:27] nice [12:28] mcizek (i=500@67.223.226.64) joined ##slackware. [12:28] good stuff [12:28] I am doing the autoreconf thing now, but can we somehow update glib and gcc? [12:28] what dist-version? [12:28] Hello all. I just installed slack 13. Anyone know what happened to 'Desktop' functionality in KDE 4.2? [12:28] morning missyjane [12:29] ? [12:29] mcizek: you now have gadget you can drop stuff in. [12:29] i didn't know they charge for blackberry messenger [12:30] Action: missyjane curtsy to alisonken1church [12:30] lol that's why i asked jeev :P [12:30] slackware64 13.0 [12:30] ok [12:30] the autoreconf thing didn't work [12:30] all i know is when i was in london, i used it and when my friend is in africa, he doesn't get billed for it [12:30] I am still getting the error [12:30] now ./configure [12:30] when we have blackberry international [12:30] ah [12:30] I did the ./configure [12:30] I get the same error [12:31] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:31] configure after autoreconf then make [12:31] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424091.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:32] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:32] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [12:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424091.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:32] is it possible to update glib? [12:33] anything is possible [12:33] k [12:33] siddharth-c look; it's your system; do what you want to it. learn from it. [12:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Quiznos: k. i'll try it out. thank you for your time. [12:34] yw [12:34] lol i;'m tempted to buy http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160358183632&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT [12:34] and stick it in the cap [12:34] but i shouldn't [12:34] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-138.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:34] waste of power and space [12:34] johndee (n=id@93-81-3-221.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:34] cab [12:34] what cab? what is it? [12:35] cabinet [12:35] at the datacenter [12:35] k [12:35] i always waste money [12:35] if you have... [12:35] but i have no use for it [12:35] lol [12:35] i have 3 unused servers right now at my biggest datacenter [12:35] someone won for 9.99 lol [12:35] i'll use one :) [12:35] jeev, do you know how to get your PIN? >.> [12:36] yea necos [12:36] options status [12:36] me too lol [12:36] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73E28.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] mcizek (i=500@67.223.226.64) left irc: "leaving" [12:36] the only reason we have 25 unused servers is waiting for the racks to get power :) [12:36] http://www.h-online.com/open/Kernel-Log-2-6-31-Tracking--/features/113671 [12:36] alisonken1church, how do you like your job so far [12:36] jeev i just neeed alil thttpd and blocks for ftp|http nothing heavy duty :) [12:37] [JavaShin] (n=RockNRol@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:37] ah, there we go [12:37] pretty good so far - since I'm not in tech support, I just get to play with the servers [12:37] oh [12:37] alisonken1church, new job? [12:37] slackytude: march [12:37] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) joined ##slackware. [12:37] alisonken1church, not really new then [12:38] hehe [12:38] not really - at least now :) [12:38] it still has that new job smell :P [12:38] yep [12:38] supre sonic plane over head [12:38] especially when I'm still learnnig the setup [12:38] there is a fucking pegeon in my room [12:38] wtf [12:38] >.> [12:38] someone left the window open lol [12:38] heh [12:38] sits on the window like it owns the place [12:39] heh [12:39] Quiznos: cool - I remember when an f18 made a low-pass (<300ft above water) by our ship. nice. [12:39] alisonken1church this one was high and fast but i can hear the wings warbbling [12:39] and the engine [12:39] murder (n=mdr@unaffiliated/murder) joined ##slackware. [12:39] murder (n=mdr@unaffiliated/murder) left ##slackware. [12:39] yeah, those engines are something [12:39] hey jeev, what's your pin :P [12:39] hmmm -murder murdered himself [12:40] Action: Necos points at alisonken1church [12:40] he did it! [12:40] Necos: not I - my back was turned [12:40] i was lookin right at you :P [12:41] but he was behind me :) [12:41] nuh uh [12:41] It wasn't murder, it was self defense. [12:41] uh huh [12:42] oh, alisonken1church, i was gonna say, i live in the koreatown area (as i was telling jeev so many moons ago) [12:42] :P [12:42] who died? [12:42] i miss dimsum [12:42] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-115-238.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [12:42] [09:45:04] murder [n=mdr@unaffiliated/murder] has joined ##Slackware [12:42] [09:45:07] murder [n=mdr@unaffiliated/murder] has left ##Slackware [12:42] Murder, unInc.? [12:42] lasted only 3 seconds in here [12:43] yea; poking around freenode [12:43] Murder, Inc, or Murder Unlimited? [12:43] kornerr (n=kornerr@95.181.3.54) joined ##slackware. [12:43] hi [12:43] good movie [12:43] That was at :39, your clock is 5-6 minutes fast! [12:43] our fleeting guest is unInc. :) [12:43] can you help me to make my hp lazerjet p1505 work? [12:43] plug it in [12:43] nope - your clock is 5-6 minutes slow :) [12:43] I used hp-setup and hp-testpage [12:43] turn it on [12:43] add paper [12:43] send data [12:43] ta da [12:44] lpt on fire ... not good [12:44] when I press 'Print test page' it only rolls 2 papers [12:44] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-11-68.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] k [12:44] my clock is stopped [12:44] empty papers [12:44] I just plugged mine in, and it showed up [12:44] twinkie_addict kick it [12:44] is that bad ? [12:44] lol [12:44] only if you need to be somewhere :) [12:44] eh [12:44] twinkie_addict, are you "twinkiefood"? [12:44] so what are my options? [12:44] nope no me i have a very nice live no need to be any where [12:44] the cups didn't want to work either [12:44] check the printer compatibility list? [12:44] Action: spook is 36 hours sober [12:45] check with HP about their driver? [12:45] saying '/usr/libSOMETHING failed' [12:45] HP laserjets should work fine. [12:45] I have hplip installed, and the printer is supported [12:45] does generic kernel have reiserfs support built-in? [12:45] here, x cant find fixed font [12:45] i dont consider twinkies food there more like a thing with no real substance [12:45] guax, as module [12:45] guax, no [12:45] =( [12:45] rob0: how to make it work? [12:45] after plugging in? [12:45] but they tast good :) [12:45] i need it to boot =P. that explain my hernel panic, back to huge then [12:45] guax: generic is pretty much all modularized - need an initrd [12:45] guax, make an initrd [12:46] make a new kernel [12:46] how can i make it? [12:46] see /boot/README.initrd [12:46] alkos333 (n=alkos333@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [12:46] crap, gotta run... be back in a couple of hours [12:46] Action: slackytude wheee \o/ opera 10 [12:46] waves [12:46] alisonken1church, thanks [12:46] Has anybody had any luck with setting up usbnet on pre in Slack? [12:46] slackytude: I got opera 10 built on both the desktop and laptop last night. :P [12:47] there is no building opera; it's not foss [12:47] liart [12:47] :) [12:47] fire|bird, I love the way opera allows you to select slackware as your linux os [12:47] heh [12:47] kornerr: possibly cups did not get everything installed correctly? [12:47] Quiznos: Well, built as in I got the tarball of it and used the slackbuild to make a package to install. :P [12:47] pff [12:47] lol [12:47] slackytude: not anymore they don't. :) [12:47] ohhh, missed the 13.0 alert .... when's 14.0 out!? =P [12:47] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] fire|bird mountain out of a mole hill [12:48] stop ggeratin [12:48] theblackbox: haha [12:48] Yeah, I don't know ... for me CUPS and a HP Officejet were quite simple to set up, just point and click in the CUPS web interface. [12:48] fire|bird, sure, just did it [12:48] slackytude: It wasn't an option last night. :P [12:48] isnt there some extra zeros in the slackware-version file? [12:48] fire|bird, try again [12:48] If you can't figure that out, don't expect me to try to figure it out for you. [12:48] Chakravanti are you in florida? [12:48] fire|bird, altho its only up tp 12.2 [12:48] 13.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 [12:48] ok - off to bed [12:48] gn [12:48] nope, IN [12:48] gn alisonken1church [12:48] Chakravanti ok [12:49] y? [12:49] alisonken1church: 6 minutes early ;) [12:49] slackytude: \o/, it's there now, as are a few others that weren't there last night. [12:49] rob0: hah [12:49] night alisonken1church [12:49] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:49] hvera (n=hamilton@200.251.188.130) left irc: "Leaving" [12:51] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.0.6) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:51] Anybody in here has a pre? [12:51] pre? [12:51] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [12:51] EgoX (n=user@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: [12:51] Palm Pre [12:51] Action: slackytude only got some ex's [12:52] ah [12:52] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:52] hey john_dee [12:52] howdy fire|bird ^) [12:53] john_dee: How's it going? [12:53] sam_albuquerque (i=51b3258d@gateway/web/freenode/x-odottfzpmeteveiw) left irc: "Page closed" [12:53] Action: Chakravanti i wiped ubuntu from my computer entirely...and it STILL reaches from the grave to haunt me >.> [12:53] fire|bird: not complaining. thanks. you? [12:53] Chakravanti, ? [12:53] Chakravanti: lodge a bug complaint with ubuntu [12:53] burnin down the bridge [12:53] okay, this is kinda strange because i'm not sure what's happenening here [12:54] john_dee: doing great, thanks. Just working on my laptop trying to figure why the world the browsers crash, etc. :/ [12:54] yeah but i need to fix it in slackware =/ [12:54] Action: kornerr decided to boot into windows and first try his new printer in there out [12:54] Action: kornerr suspects it doesn't work correctly [12:54] kornerr (n=kornerr@95.181.3.54) left irc: "Leaving." [12:54] Chakravanti, fix what? [12:54] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:55] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:55] somehow, have a partition mounted to a folder i did that in ubuntu but i didn't think slack would pick up on that [12:55] adeodatus (i=1000@92.84.18.37) joined ##slackware. [12:55] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) joined ##slackware. [12:55] fire|bird: what browsers? [12:55] Chakravanti, huh? it shouldnt, unless you mean a link [12:56] probably? [12:56] be back in few minuts i decided to do a fresh install with first disk with minimal optins chosen for install , for cli onli system [12:56] Action: slackytude needs to find his slackbuild for samba.... [12:57] twinkie_addict (n=david@cpe-24-95-93-218.columbus.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:57] huh? [12:58] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [12:58] john_dee: firefox, konqueror, etc. I at first suspected flash, but now, I don't, it's just coincidental I believe. When I go to certain sites, the browser just crashes, I've tried different flash versions (at first) different video drivers, reinstalled l/ with no luck. [12:58] fire|bird: javascript? [12:59] fire|bird: have you disabled hardware acceleration in flash? [12:59] fire|bird, same sites every time? [12:59] hi btw ;-) [12:59] dive: yes, and hi. :P [12:59] link? [13:00] spook: I've tried disabling java and javascript, same result. [13:00] few sites crashes here [13:00] fire|bird: is it definitely plugged in? [13:00] fire|bird: now that I think about it that happens to me sometimes as well. I just figured it was bad scripting on the site. [13:00] dive: any myspace page and break.com so far, but I suspect there's others. [13:00] some sites that have HD supported are one [13:00] thats 64bit flash? [13:00] though never happened on those two sites [13:00] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:00] mrselfpwn: no, haven't disabled that, where do I do that at? [13:00] slackytude: yes [13:01] right click on a video or flash object, go to settings and uncheck hardware accel [13:01] sodo (n=unknown@host81-141-52-212.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [13:01] thttpd heh [13:01] fire|bird: hm. that's strange. what sites? will check how solid shiny new opera is ^) [13:01] mrselfpwn: ok, I'll give that a try. Youtube, daily motion, etc. work. [13:01] john_dee: opera is the only one that doesn't crash, but it doesn't load flash either. :P [13:02] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:03] if it won't let you click inside the settings hit the tab key until the settings are highlighted in yellow. use space to uncheck the box then tab to the close button. [13:04] fire|bird: oh %) well, then some crash testing won't do any bad for chrome here [13:04] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:04] mrselfpwn: nope, still does the same thing. :O [13:04] s/:O/:P/ [13:04] mrselfpwn: wheres the .conf for flash? :P [13:04] harryirene (n=gapinski@adsl-99-60-254-34.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:04] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:04] spook: There are ~/.adobe and ~/.macromedia, I tried removing those even. [13:04] fire|bird: so far i've seen it crash only once [13:05] fsck if i know. never looked :P [13:05] haha [13:06] john_dee: In general, opera load flash, but for example, www.myspace.com/breakingbenjamin, the site loads, but the flash music player deal doesn't load at all. [13:07] s/load/loads/ [13:07] there, i made xp/vista/win7 all look the same [13:07] spook: classic look? :O [13:08] :P [13:08] yeah [13:08] nice [13:08] and faster too I assume. [13:08] cant change start menu and taskbar, tho [13:09] well i was kinda hoping to find out how they all preform, got all 3 in vm s [13:09] that reminds me, I need to optimise my annoy script tomorrow [13:09] got it =) [13:09] plus brushing up on/learning how to do things [13:09] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] fire|bird: works fine here. tho i'm on window$ now so results might not be very accurate %) [13:10] siddharth-c (n=siddhart@124.124.233.29) joined ##slackware. [13:11] john_dee: thanks for checking for me. :) [13:11] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-138-94-235.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [13:11] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [13:12] kornerr (n=kornerr@95.181.3.54) joined ##slackware. [13:12] under windows the printer works fine [13:12] fire|bird: np. never heard of the band, btw. are they good? [13:12] uhh, tron legacy [13:13] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] john_dee: imo, yes, very good. Their new album comes out 9.29.09 Latest single is "I Will Not Bow" which is used in a movie that I forget the name of. [13:15] twinkie_addict (n=david@cpe-24-95-93-218.columbus.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:17] fire|bird: yeah, district 9 or something like that [13:17] what's the cmd to make a fonts.dir file in a x11 fontdir/ ? [13:18] mkfontdir ? [13:18] srecko (n=srecko@93.138.118.26) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:18] ty [13:18] district 9 is a nice movie [13:18] hey thrice` [13:18] cool mech [13:18] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] i want to see district 9 the previews remind me the old tv show V [13:19] yeah, thought the same [13:19] not many similarities tho [13:19] hmmm, slider bar for UAC is good [13:20] i'm not liking the latest mc [13:20] corte (i=982bf00a@gateway/web/freenode/x-lfwtifigfindwrul) left irc: "Page closed" [13:20] thats a good thing i hate bad coppies of the good old stuff though i must say robzomies howween was awsome and look forward to h2 [13:20] Quiznos, fork it [13:20] hey guys... how do I get my urxvt to show the long command lines properly? [13:21] define properly [13:21] i'll take innuendo for a byte Alex [13:21] instead of them wrapping around the same line, I'd like the command to go on second line if the first line is filled [13:21] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-236-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:21] slackytude unfork actually to previous [13:21] oh. [13:21] should it be something in .Xdefaults? [13:21] or what? [13:23] fking x wont start here [13:23] 12.2 [13:24] cant find a damn font file [13:24] and i cant figure out where it's demanded [13:24] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@m4c0436d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:24] Quiznos: did you install 12.2 [13:24] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-thicdtktsptaxfam) left irc: [13:24] 's x on 13.0? [13:24] yes [13:25] i need to upgrade but i'm too lazy to download everything [13:25] 13's x is even worse [13:25] Quiznos: run pkgtool, goto setup scripts, check everything relevant and run it [13:25] i'm doin that; x wants fixed font but it's not here [13:25] Quiznos: i really would not be surprised if EVERYTHING BREAKS [13:25] just x so far [13:25] i just dont get it [13:26] Quiznos, no X on 13? [13:26] it wont work here [13:26] logs? [13:26] did you even try? [13:26] nothing useful [13:26] i did [13:26] how does it not start [13:27] slackytude: too late he already butchered the install [13:27] slackytude kbd and moose deactivated; allowEmptyInput on by default to deactivate [13:27] so x would start but cant kbd nor moose [13:27] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [13:27] Quiznos: thats a common problem with an easy solution. [13:27] tell [13:28] x is abomination i think the x11 devs need to be put in front of a fireing squad [13:28] you disable hal's input detection and specify it manually in xorg.conf [13:28] ... [13:28] a squad is too good for them [13:28] found solution to my problem, if anybody cares: the .Xdefaults file contained corrupted characters [13:28] spook i did that. [13:28] fail [13:28] twinkie_addict: uhuh. [13:29] even if you have a great de or wm the x your running it makes it crap ugh . main reason i dropped to cli only install [13:29] spook anything else? [13:29] Quiznos: zordrak knows [13:30] ok [13:30] Zordrak [13:30] yeah, dont diss X unless you make something better [13:30] i'm ready to seek out Y again or MGR [13:30] I love people who bitch that their FREE software is broken [13:30] thrice` you're not helping [13:30] thrice`: yeah its really funny :/ [13:30] i'm quite frustrated [13:30] why should I help? twinkie_addict is the one complaining [13:30] post your xorg.cong [13:31] i havent been able to do anything productive in two days now [13:31] thrice` exactly; bc you dont have heart to help. [13:31] it's open source, fix it [13:31] you dont give freely [13:31] that's your prob. [13:31] ok, ok. what's your problem, now? [13:31] nm; i'll wait for Zordrak [13:31] you try to start xorg, and have no input? [13:32] I've downlaoded slackware-13.0-install-d2.iso and I want to install it with slackpkg. How to do that? [13:32] adeodatus: mount it, point slackpkg/mirrors at the mount point. [13:33] probally will work [13:33] Quiznos: ok, couple questions. 1) do you have a xorg.conf? 2) are you on slackware 13 (full install) ? [13:33] adeodatus, i dont think you can do that [13:33] would probably have to mount the iso, and upgradepkg through that [13:33] or installpkg [13:34] adeodatus: yes you can do it. mount the ISO and point slackpkg's mirror file to the mount point. [13:34] jeev: what about grabbing the packages.txt etc from a mirror? [13:34] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:34] jeev: Which one do think will work best? [13:34] read /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [13:34] ... [13:34] i'm not sure, i'm not advanced enough [13:34] lol not realy bitching but x choulf be better it was better so why shoud it be worse now ? [13:34] i'd try both if i had to, not caring what i break [13:35] antiwire: yeah, but what if he mounts it and points slackpkg at the mount point? [13:35] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:35] twinkie_addict: stop bitching and go join the x dev team. [13:35] spook: go get drunk [13:35] adeodatus, no need to use slackpkg, just mount it and do installpkg *tgz [13:35] antiwire: thats all the permission i need. [13:35] Quiznos: if you have a xorg.conf, when x-server loads, it'll ask hal for a list of devices to use. hal will try to force use of its devices, and xorg will try to load its own through xorg.conf; the result is that there will be overlap, and probably not work. your options are to a) remove the xorg.conf, and let hal work (preferred), or b) force x-server to ignore hal through the "AllowEmptyInput" option in xorg.conf [13:36] adeodatus: You really should follow UPGRADE.TXT [13:36] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) left ##slackware. [13:36] some one woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning [13:37] adeodatus: upgrade pkgtools and tar first, installpkg to xz and upgrade findutils. then upgrade the glic-solibs and then do the rest [13:37] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [13:37] adeodatus: it is all laid out in UPGRADE.TXT [13:38] haldir: no it seems someone woke up sober and looking to troll [13:38] antiwire: I'll try [13:38] oh, its an update [13:38] antiwire: but what if he upgrades pkgtools and tar first, installpkges to xz and upgrades findutils, then upgrades the glibc-solibs before doing the rest? [13:39] spook: You really act like an idiot when you're sober but I bet you know this [13:39] antiwire: i just thought if we kept repeating the same advice over and over, maybe they'd follow it? [13:40] instead of ignoring it the first 6 times its said [13:40] isnt that close to the definition of insanity [13:40] keep doing the same thing and expect different result [13:41] haldir: not if everyone stops talking to them, and instead just repeats the advice too [13:41] http://visualfunhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/linux-body-paint-clothing.jpg [13:42] no need what the x dev team does works , i dont like it the my perogitive . i just chose not to use what i dont like :) thats the beuty of linux [13:42] dae [13:42] spook haha, you guys have more patience than I do these days. [13:42] twinkie_addict, you use linux without X? [13:42] twinkie_addict: then stop bitching in here and live with it [13:42] yes i do [13:43] so, commandline all the way, huh? [13:44] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [13:45] yeh command line all the way [13:46] Action: slackytude coulndt live without X [13:46] Action: spook likes kde4 a lot [13:47] Action: powtrix just forgot fluxbox by kde4 features [13:47] kde4 is nice but all i used x for was flash videos , i have vh1 classic so i decided not to clutter my system with all extra stuff [13:47] tooly (n=tooly@85.178.173.199) joined ##slackware. [13:47] Action: powtrix wants kde4.3 [13:47] holy shit its christopher judge on macgyver [13:48] powtrix, build it [13:48] alkos333 (n=alkos333@76.73.16.26) left irc: "CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" [13:48] i tried [13:48] 1/2 [13:49] spook: it's funny, the people involved in Stargate made a large number of almost incestual productions, all starring cast members. [13:49] kornerr (n=kornerr@95.181.3.54) left ##slackware. [13:49] EuroTrash: Amanda Tapping only got the job because you ad-libbed the line about macgyvering a dhd [13:49] she [13:50] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [13:50] grazymax (n=grazymax@host15-134-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:50] I'm not surprised. [13:50] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] one thing i allways loved and still love zabout slack comes whith the best preinstalled cli tools around [13:53] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Hello! [13:54] I am back! :-) [13:54] oh god [13:54] :-) [13:54] IceW (n=sartori@189-46-225-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:54] nihilstar (n=nihil@89.136.243.243) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:55] antiwire: did you build Linux-PAM-1.1.0 or 1.0.3? [13:55] chopp: I've used both [13:55] my most recent one was 1.1.0 [13:56] pam for whatß [13:56] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:56] for the whole system, so I could auth using my fingerprint reader [13:56] antiwire: ok, well I built 1.0.3, and have just discovered the 1.1.0. It went fine also I take it? [13:56] Ic [13:56] chopp: yeah [13:57] antiwire: great thanks [13:57] chopp: I don't remember having any issues [13:57] ok [13:57] quick question.. what kernel is it in slackware 13.. ? [13:57] Does anyone know if slackware64 comes with the necessary 32 bit libraries to run 32 bit apps? [13:58] adamk, no [13:58] 2.69 somthing i believe [13:58] linXea: 2.6.29.6 [13:58] err found in slackpkg; when give `reinstall x'; error: pkglist.awk:13 NF has negative value. [13:58] yeh that lol [13:58] thank you [13:58] patched to fix the socket issue [13:58] and .30 in /testing [13:58] s/give/told [13:58] adamk, http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [13:59] nepenthe: Didn't think so. [13:59] I wonder how hard it would be to setup. [13:59] adamk, not hard , i did it yesterday [14:00] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [14:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:00] nepenthe: Setup an 32 bit environment somewhere? [14:00] multilib setup [14:00] adeodatus (i=1000@92.84.18.37) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:03] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.21) joined ##slackware. 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JFK Through out some racial slurs against mice when Chucky Popped his fat ass with a highpowered rifle at less than 10 feet. President Johnson created the Warren Commission — chaired by Chief Justice Earl [14:09] are you kidding me, the page says that? [14:09] Quiznos: you must not be a frequent wikipedia user [14:10] lol dam [14:10] spook not really anymore. i havebeen. i cycle reallty [14:10] i do know that wikped has a bad rep/lost their rep tho [14:10] for a while, thanks to my friends doing, the article for the number 22 had citation needed on it being the number > 21 and < 23 [14:10] lol [14:10] and 42? [14:11] the key was doing it to an unpopular article [14:11] that just sick-hah [14:11] yea [14:11] lasted 4 months [14:11] hah [14:11] friends are twisted [14:11] nah hes a good guy [14:11] did it to prove a point [14:12] twisted isnt exclusive to good :) [14:12] just twisted :) perverted [14:12] like wicker furnit [14:12] or tilted [14:12] hah, he even corrected his mistakes. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_F._Kennedy&diff=prev&oldid=311314845 [14:12] nooper: you overestimate the intelligence of trolls [14:13] heh [14:16] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [14:16] windows 7 has this thing called a homegroup for sharing. looks interesting [14:17] only works with other windows 7 machines though [14:17] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [14:18] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [14:19] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] hahahahahah nooper [14:19] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:20] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A73E31.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] samuelig (n=samuelig@243.pool85-57-138.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [14:25] x finally started but without a wm. [14:26] akSeya (n=akSeya@201.21.164.146) joined ##slackware. [14:28] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:28] ... [14:29] Action: misspwn sneaks up on spook [14:29] misspwn: hmmm? [14:29] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:29] oops [14:29] Nick change: misspwn -> nix_chix0r [14:29] you cant sneak up on a ninja [14:30] i think i can [14:31] nix_chix0r: if you can sneak up on me, i'll conceed the point [14:32] i'll start practicing [14:32] portia11 (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:33] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:33] i think i wana retire as being a mommy or find some one else to pull stuck poop out of my kid [14:33] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73E28.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:33] haha [14:33] fire|bird: a balloon and leaves and twigs is usally all you need [14:33] gona need a jumbo box of glove [14:33] gloves* [14:34] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:34] fire|bird, i'm great haha you [14:35] portia11 (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:35] nix_chix0r: doing great, thank you. :) [14:37] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-120.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:37] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:38] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-77-44.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Anyone else getting the "Akonadi server process not registered at DBus" error when starting KDE? [14:38] channel add -auto ##slackware Freenode [14:38] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:39] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A73E31.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:39] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:40] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:41] By the time I get to system settings => akonadi => test it's gone [14:41] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [14:41] adeodatus (i=RF@92.82.83.6) joined ##slackware. [14:41] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Is there a way to make the generic kernel ignore the built-in vesafb and use the module intelfb instead? [14:47] doesnt it automatically do it? [14:47] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx03458.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] if not then use xorg.conf [14:47] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:47] xorg.conf won't affect framebuffer :> [14:47] yes, a command line to the kernel, "append = ..." in lilo.conf [14:48] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:48] CmdLnKid_ (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [14:48] video=intelfb, I bet it would be [14:48] spook, if i say 'video=intelfb' it ignores it, and 'vga=792' goes to vesa [14:48] video=intelfb or so [14:48] oh. fb [14:48] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] lol. [14:48] don't set vga=792 [14:49] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:49] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [14:49] If I don't set vga, it doesn't do anything [14:49] Just goes to 80x25 [14:49] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:49] where do i find the uninstall script for something in installed with sbopkg? [14:50] Chakravanti: its a package, so removepkg packagename [14:50] You might need to load a module in the initrd, I am not sure, never did that. [14:50] ty [14:50] Chakravanti, it's not in /var/log/scripts/packagename-*? [14:50] Chakravanti: there is no uninstall script [14:50] rob0, done that [14:50] veritos: that's the installation script [14:50] rg3, yeah i know, it parses the install script to determine what symlinks were made [14:50] and maybe "vesafb=" to the kernel? [14:51] the deinstall script is the very smart human at the keyboard [14:51] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] veritos: no, its removepkg [14:51] This should work, i installed gyachi without realizing that slackbuild is using an insanely old version >.> [14:51] veritos: l2slackware or be quiet please :) [14:53] spook, i was responding to an ambiguous question. i thought they were looking for an equivalent of a preremove script in other package managers, which i know doesn't exist on slackware. [14:53] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: "Reconnecting..." [14:53] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [14:54] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:54] could someone explain to me the difference between the nvidia-kernel & nvidia-driver builds on slackbuilds.org? [14:54] tooly (n=tooly@85.178.173.199) left irc: "Leaving." [14:54] #slackbuilds [14:54] corte: wild guess: one builds the kernel module, and the other one builds the rest [14:55] corte, nvidia-kernel is the kernel module, nvidia driver is the X driver [14:55] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [14:55] the X driver needs the kernel module to work [14:55] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:55] thanks guys. i always thought the kernel module WAS the x driver [14:56] nvidia does some special acceration stuff in-kernel [14:56] no at all... by the way, doesn't nvidia also install OpenGL libraries together with the X driver? [14:56] yeah i believe it overwrites some X libraries which i guess is the point of the nvidia-switch script [14:58] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx03458.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:01] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl22-222.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:01] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:02] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-138-94-235.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [15:02] hello everyone [15:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [15:03] im thinking of either creating/converting some of my partitions to be encrypted. Does anyone have any references/doco on the best way to do this in slackware [15:04] in the slackware tree there is README_CRYPT [15:04] EgoX (n=user@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [15:04] gaz: README_CRYPT in any mirror will show you how but there is no conversion, only new [15:04] you can't use luks to convert a plaintext partition into crypt [15:04] actually you can convert a partition to be encrypted [15:04] but you DON'T want to do it [15:05] you will loose all the data.... [15:05] you really consider that a conversion? [15:05] the older pre-luks way could encrypt the device on the fly [15:05] but it has many disadvantages comparing to LUKS [15:05] and nobody uses it now [15:05] Part` (i=partitio@archlinux/trusteduser/Part) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:06] the best way is what antiwire mentioned and what README_CRYPT uses [15:06] that is to use LUKS [15:07] jnylin (n=jnylin@c-5f72e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:07] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [15:07] okay cheers guys just to clarify is LUKS the preferred method [15:08] ejal (n=ejal@CBL217-132-119-33.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [15:08] For Linux system yes, LUKS is the way to go [15:08] I use it on my laptop [15:08] where can i check to see if the kernel was compiled with a certain configuration? [15:08] Chakravanti: read the .config file [15:08] Chakravanti : zcat /proc/config.gz [15:08] ty [15:09] antiwire: how much cpu does kcryptd eats ? [15:09] antiwire, ive used some in the past not sure which type it was though. Are you able to encrypt every partition except /boot? [15:10] i had done a full / encryption but kcrypt ate 50% and that is why i don't run it anymore [15:10] Lord_Khelben: hardly noticeable on an core duo 1.83 (not the core 2 even) [15:10] root@slackbook:/etc/rc.d# /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv setup [15:10] -su: /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv: Permission denied [15:10] ? [15:10] 50% is certainly not the case here [15:10] briareus: ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv [15:10] an core/a core [15:10] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8943 2009-09-01 10:57 /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv [15:11] wierd [15:11] how od i knwo if i have kernel headers or where to get them? I would think this was in slackware by default since everything is compiled [15:11] briareus: chmod +x [15:11] briareus: nope - not executable [15:11] akSeya (n=akSeya@201.21.164.146) left irc: Client Quit [15:11] Chakravanti: ls /var/log/packages/|grep headers [15:11] you should have a kernel-headers package [15:11] can someone please run 'less /usr/doc/mutt/manual.txt' the search for 'message is' and tell me if you see lots of escape sequences please. [15:11] Chakravanti: kernel headers are part of the source and also in the development directory [15:11] ls /var/log/packages/*headers* (uuog) [15:12] in slack, i think it defaults to displaying the ansi colour codes. i had to use less -r to see them correctly. [15:12] Chakravanti: what rob0 said ^^^ [15:12] root@slackbook:/etc/rc.d# /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv setup [15:12] okay then...i'm confused as to the error i'm getting i have all the requirements for flashcam-1.3 but i'm getting these error when compiling [15:12] yesyes: yes i see them too. this is normal. less -r prints raw sequences [15:12] Not implemented! Please use the virtualbox-kernel.SlackBuild available at SlackBuilds.org instead. [15:12] (without the (uuog)) [15:12] ha, I made it frfom the slackbuild [15:12] ok [15:12] oh, there's a third virtualbox kernel from slackbuilds [15:12] hehe rob0 is correct. grep isn't needed :) [15:13] http://www.pastebin.org/14035 [15:14] I see, vbox is different now, ok [15:14] interesting clickies on the bottom [15:14] its three slackbuilds (including guest additions) not two [15:15] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:16] I think this is the relevant line: error: 'v4l_compat_ioctl32' undeclared here (not in a function) [15:16] monstro (i=1000@187.10.71.54) joined ##slackware. [15:16] Chakravanti: http://www.mail-archive.com/linuxtv-commits@linuxtv.org/msg02418.html [15:18] shit...i have no idea how to apply this patch [15:18] no don't apply the patch. i pasted the url so that you see the commit message [15:18] x finally started but without a wm. [15:18] nowai [15:18] 12.2/x [15:18] they renamed it to v4l2_compat_ioctl32 because it gave conflicts [15:18] adeodatus (i=RF@92.82.83.6) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:18] oh [15:19] so i shoudl edit flashcam makefile to refer to v4l2 instead of v4l? [15:19] if i understood it well flashcam should use this function, but if you want try to rename it in the flashcam source [15:19] s/should/shouldn't/ [15:20] okay [15:20] edit vloopback/vloopback.c and change v4l_compat_ioctl32 to v4l2_compat_ioctl32 but i don't think it will work [15:21] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:22] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [15:22] hmm, anyone get vbox running in 13.0 who's got a minute? [15:23] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:23] Nick change: omni-sleep -> omnipotentduo [15:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. 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[15:30] anyone know of a faster way to mirror a svn repository other than svnsync [15:30] Chakravanti: try commenting line 1018 in vloopback.c [15:31] i have installed gtk-qt-engine tgz package on slackware 13 but still cannot find the gtk style and fonts in my control center [15:31] samuelig (n=samuelig@243.pool85-57-138.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "Leaving" [15:31] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:32] lio_0131: where did you get the package ? [15:32] slacky repo [15:32] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:32] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:32] uninstall the package and then go to this url http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/gtk-qt-engine/ [15:33] ok [15:33] I'm trying to get Gyachi to work and i have a v4l2 format webcam [15:33] gtk-qt-engine is very simple package but generally don't use packages from 3rd party repositories with questionable quality [15:33] from what i understand v4l2 cams need flashcam to support it but that's kind of old [15:33] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl22-222.kav.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware ("No matter how dark the night, somehow the Sun rises once again"). [15:33] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl22-222.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Chakravanti, v4l stuff is supposed to just work [15:34] Chakravanti: did it work with the comment ? [15:34] i havent gone back to flashcam [15:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:36] no [15:36] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] Slackytude well gyachi is being a bitch =/ [15:36] so do i have to run doinst.sh????? [15:36] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:36] lio_0131, read the howto, you are supposed to run the slackbuild file [15:37] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:37] lio_0131, you might want to check out sbopkg.org too. its a frontend for slackbuilds.or [15:37] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] .org [15:37] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:37] and lio_0131 there is a slackbuild howto right there at slackbuilds.org [15:37] lio_0131, http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [15:38] Lord_Khelben: thanks for the less / ansi colour code thing. if you go into mutt, and press f1, i guess you see the manual again, with all the escape sequences, too? [15:38] KungFuJesus (i=adam@CN-ESR1-69-61-222-184.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] uhhg, still getting over the weird KDE4 learning curve [15:38] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) joined ##slackware. [15:38] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30589.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:39] http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3379884&forum_id=533967 <--is my problem exactly [15:39] can someone explain to me why the pager shortcut key doesn't do anything? [15:39] yesyes: i see exactly like less (not less -r) [15:39] KungFuJesus, pager shortcut key? [15:39] like 40% of the global shortcut keys for kde4 never seem to work right [15:39] right click the pager [15:39] What's a pager shortcut key? [15:39] go to pager options [15:39] Lord_Khelben: okay, with ESC[xxm everywhere, then? [15:39] KungFuJesus: what is the pager shortcut key ? [15:39] yesyes: yes [15:40] err pager settings [15:40] okay, thanks. [15:40] keyboard shortcuts [15:40] then set it [15:40] then try it [15:40] and watch it do nothing [15:40] thats in kde? [15:40] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) joined ##slackware. [15:40] I'm assuming it's the same thing it was in kde3, a way to page between workspaces without directly mapping a key [15:40] yes [15:40] hello [15:40] meaning, not having to do ctrl+f# to switch [15:40] do i have to reboot or restart X after installing the generated package???? [15:41] KungFuJesus, no clue /me is on xfce. however, asked in #kde? [15:41] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:41] lio_0131, no [15:41] hey, how to get mid support for slackware 12? [15:41] so control center dosnot change [15:41] I wish they could help, but shortcut key issues seem to STILL be abundant and vary widly between distros, even on version 4.3 [15:42] ok ok i got guys [15:42] thanks [15:42] aldcor, mid? [15:42] you would think nearly a year and a half later they'd have these things ironed out :( [15:42] KungFuJesus: have you tried ctrl & alt + left or right arrow? [15:42] yes, it does nothing [15:42] KungFuJesus, try xfce :; [15:42] lio_0131 (n=ahmed@196.205.14.137) left ##slackware. [15:43] Any ideas on this VirtualBox question http://pastebin.ca/1550685 or is this a better question for #slackbuilds? [15:43] slackytude, midi [15:43] slackytude: that's not a solution to kde4's problems [15:43] personally i prefer active screen borders where all you need to do is bump the left or right screen edge with the mouse/cursor and it switches screens [15:43] if people keep up this attitude and look the other way with kde4s flaws then the team will lose any ground they had :( [15:43] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl22-222.kav.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware ("No matter how dark the night, somehow the Sun rises once again"). [15:43] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl22-222.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:43] Pig_Pen: that's an enlightenment thing [15:43] grrr 2nd time [15:44] e17 rather [15:44] fvwm did that long before enlightenment was ever born [15:44] KungFuJesus, I was suggestion #kde the xfce stuff was a joke [15:44] ah yeah that's right [15:44] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:44] but fvwm may as well be cde, lol [15:44] i am using fvwm right now :D [15:44] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:44] the "keybord shortcut" section doesn't work for many things. for some things i don't even know what is its use [15:45] Lord_Khelben: almost 2 years in... [15:45] jeeze [15:45] if you want to change virtual desktops with keys [15:45] QT is such a great framework, too [15:45] there is another way [15:45] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [15:45] (i guess the proper way also) [15:45] yeah, I saw the global keys [15:45] aldcor, how does midi not work? [15:46] doesn't offer a preview as to which desktop I'm looking at, though [15:46] i have no idea... just doesn't work [15:46] http://imagebin.org/62035 fvwm is beautiful ;p [15:46] aldcor, and what exactly are you trying to do? [15:46] had to open more slots for ktorrent [15:46] beautiful indeed (it looks like windowmaker without borders) [15:46] i'm just trying to open midi file :) [15:47] it just doesn't sound [15:47] with what you are trying to "open" it ? [15:47] with timidity ? [15:47] the icons & wallpaper courtesy of rox filer [15:47] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Hi guys. Is it ok to install compiz from slackbuilds for 12.2 on Slackware 13? [15:48] with Amarok, with Audacious [15:48] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [15:48] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] just doesn't work [15:48] portia: i have the impression that compiz is already included in slackware [15:49] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-120-219.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:49] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [15:49] hmm, the scroll wheel on plasma switches workspaces. I can see that being kind of annoying, though [15:49] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:49] Lord_Khelben: my bad... I didn't even check it - you're right thanks [15:50] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [15:50] it is the plain compiz though. not compiz-fusion,beryl,etc [15:50] Pig_Pen: mine is better! http://omploader.org/vMjZuNA [15:50] Lord_Khelben, they merged [15:50] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:50] I was actually thinking of compiz-fusion, what about it? [15:50] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:50] slackytude: ah thank you for clarifying that. i thought the others were more advanced forms of compiz [15:51] Camarade_Tux: what window manager is that? [15:51] portia, it doesnt exist as an individual project anymore. they merged [15:51] i didn't know they merged [15:51] guitarrista_r5 (n=admin@189.74.15.124) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Camarade_Tux: tiling wm ? [15:51] So just to clarify: what was compiz-fusion in 12.2 is just compiz in 13. Is it right? [15:51] Pig_Pen: openbox with a few settings [15:51] Lord_Khelben: no, settings [15:52] Camarade_Tux: looks like xmonad or dwm [15:52] ah, yeah you can rightclick on the title bar and select "undecorate" [15:52] jnylin (n=jnylin@c-5f72e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [15:52] basically I told openbox to put the windows from top to bottom and from left to right [15:52] portia, if its newer than feb 09, then yes [15:52] Pig_Pen: I made that the default [15:52] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) left irc: "Leaving." [15:53] rc.xml ? [15:54] eshepard (n=eshepard@ip68-111-115-62.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] sudo /etc/rc.Pig_Pen stop [15:54] Pig_Pen: I think so [15:54] Pig_Pen: but I'm not on slackware right now [15:54] he's special, he gets to go in the /etc folder [15:55] Pig_Pen: but openbox wiki is pretty good and in case, /connect irc.oftc.net and /join #openbox [15:55] acidchild: :) [15:55] rc.Pig_Pen is include less [15:56] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:56] no such file or directory [15:57] aldcor, not sure, actually [15:58] Pig_Pen is unstoppable! [15:58] "nothing can stop me now 'cause I don't care anymore" [15:58] Action: Camarade_Tux loves NIN [16:01] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl22-222.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:01] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [16:01] kill -9 $(pgrep Pig_Pen) [16:01] x-[ [16:02] Action: agentc0re|work puts a stop sign in front of Pig_Pen [16:02] frankyp (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] wtf? pkill -9 Pig_Pen will do [16:02] thrice`: Not on BSD. [16:02] He is a zombie, still there [16:02] bbbrrrains!!! [16:03] ok, thanks guys. Compiz works - just don't know how to map ctrl+alt+arrow key to switch between workspaces [16:03] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:03] Don't worry guys. I'll leave the channel and then he'll die of starvation. [16:03] portia, is cccm installed? [16:03] lol [16:03] portia, sorry ccsm [16:03] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:04] whoever invented geolocation should be shot [16:04] is it possible to install from an iso on a file server on my lan - specifying where the iso is from a boot prompt? [16:05] frankyp: I think there is some documentation about network install on the slackware.com website and on the dvd. [16:05] frankyp, possible but not like that [16:05] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:05] slackytude: can't find it. I tried slackpkg and sbopkg [16:05] okay. then like what? have to mount the iso? [16:05] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:05] frankyp, boot from usb or pxe, mount the iso, point installer to it [16:05] portia, then I dunno [16:06] portia: look for the fusion icon [16:06] portia: it's called exactly that too, "Fusion Icon" [16:06] frankyp, like agentc0re|work said, check documentation [16:07] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:07] eshepard (n=eshepard@ip68-111-115-62.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:07] (i'm doing that.) thanks guys [16:07] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] frankyp: np. Just never done it myself.. [16:08] LF4: Yo, did you check that vid? :D [16:08] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] y0 agentc0re|work. How's it going? [16:09] wb firedix [16:09] err [16:09] wb fire|bird [16:09] hahaha [16:09] KungFuJesus (i=adam@CN-ESR1-69-61-222-184.fuse.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:09] nice typo [16:09] slackytude: thanks. :) [16:10] hmmm, tv decided to use nine inch nails soundtrack :) [16:10] @slackytude: ccsm was in 12.2 so I guess it hasn't been ported to 13 [16:10] Action: Camarade_Tux empties the fire extinguisher on fire|bird :) [16:10] @agent: can't find it - I mean I've got compiz enabled (it's just the mappings) [16:10] I hate how every music streaming site only lets americans listen to them [16:10] portia, yeah, Im still on 12.1. is fusion icon there? [16:11] Camarade_Tux: Thanks for that, but regardless of all your attempts, a firebird cannot be extinguished. :) [16:11] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) joined ##slackware. [16:11] It's all part of the system settings and it's just called 'desktop effects'. NO mention of compiz [16:11] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] Action: Camarade_Tux buries fire|bird 60 feet under [16:12] portia: are you reffering to the kde desktop effects? [16:12] portia, kinda sad. I like compiz-fusion [16:12] How shall I get my cube in xfce now [16:12] fire|bird: I'm alright. you? [16:12] woe is me! [16:12] I can enable the cube and can rotate it but I need to press ctrl f11 and move the mouse [16:12] aceofspades: yes [16:12] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:12] the kde stuff is a lot slower then compiz [16:13] imo [16:13] looks like i gotta mount an iso on on loopback, and point setup to it\ [16:13] agentc0re|work: doing great, thanks. Still fighting that crashing issue which now doesn't seem to be flash related. :/ [16:13] frankyp, yep [16:13] ever done that? [16:13] frankyp, sure [16:13] portia: it's an extra package. and you should be able to tab complete names. so type agent and hit tab. if you don't type my full nick i will probably miss what you say. [16:13] But it is compiz, isn't it. KDE stuff didn't have desktop cube [16:13] frankyp, dont use /mnt [16:13] aceofspades19: I have kde4 effects enabled and they don't seem slow to me. :P [16:13] fire|bird: ick. [16:13] portia: kde 4 stuff does [16:13] portia: kde4 has desktop cube, etc. [16:13] agentc0re|work: Sorry [16:14] but there is no compiz stuff for xfce now, in 13? [16:14] portia: Oh, don't be sorry. Just letting you know, passing on the info. ya know? [16:14] slackytude: I'm sure you can install compiz [16:14] aceofspades19: I didn't know. Maybe I'm not running compiz them [16:14] aceofspades19, its included, but doesnt come with ccsm [16:14] fire|bird: well when I had slackware 12.1 I ran compiz on it and it ran perfectly fine, but in slackware 13 with kde 4 they run really slow [16:14] okay. the documentations says to boot my root/boot disks. thats the same as using the ramdisk on the first install cd, right? [16:15] franky, sounds interesting, what are you trying to do? [16:15] portia: unless you configured it I doubt you are [16:15] slackytude: did it ever [16:15] aceofspades19: Hmm, I'll have to do some comparison work now. :P [16:15] fire|bird: I do have a crappy intel card, but it should be able to 3d effects at an ok speed [16:16] aceofspades19: lol, yeah. My card is Geforce FX5200 [16:17] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:17] frankyp, yes [16:17] I switched off the 'enable desktop effects' in system settings and typed: compiz --replace [16:17] portia: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=compiz&sv=12.2 I know they are under 12.2, but they should work in 13.0. Are you using slackware64 or 32bit? [16:17] and it's kind of messed up [16:17] portia, Im gonna install 13 tomorrow and take a look [16:17] altho even the compiz website is down atm [16:18] agentc0re|work: compiz is part of slackware 13 [16:18] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] portia: not all of compiz. [16:19] you need to install a few packages for it to work correctly [16:19] wd_ (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] mancha: i want to upgrade all the machines on my network to 12.2, then live update to 13.0. my laptop is the only machine connected to the internet, and all these machines currently run 12.1. and theyre all headless. i can scp the iso's i downloaded to my laptop onto all of the hosts, but only one of them has x installed, which i was hoping to use k3b on to burn the 12.2 install disks; it turned out that k3b was mangled somehow, and i s [16:20] agentc0re|work: I know [16:20] frankyp: you can use command line tools to burn cds [16:20] aceofspades19: Probably they will get into slackbuilds for 13 soon [16:20] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [16:21] frankyp: you also cut out at "somehow, an i s" [16:21] harryirene (n=gapinski@adsl-99-60-254-34.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] like i said before, cdrecord is beyond me; the scsi commands thing confuses the hell outa me. \ [16:21] anyone here have a thinkpad with a nvidia videocard working with the nvidia drivers on linux? [16:21] ok ill paste the rest [16:21] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:22] dranky i see. so your irruse is what to do instead of burning the cds and passing them around to each box? [16:22] *franky [16:22] irruse=issue (don't ask) [16:22] frankyp, do youself a favor and mount the iso somewhere, a nfs or samba share and pxe boot the other machines [16:23] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] so you can point the installers to that share and install [16:23] "it turned out that k3b was mangled on the only box that has x, and i suck at cdrecord" [16:23] scorchsaber (n=scorch@gig2-cr1.cottage.ackley.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] yeah, thats my issue. [16:23] hmm how about just a laptop and nvidia card? [16:24] frankyp: you can't read a man page? [16:24] alright, I'm not going to use any effect for the time being - it just crashed:( [16:24] ive never used nfs, and i dont have the time to learn/configure that or samba right now - so i think i'll just scp the iso's to each box and mnt them on the lo [16:24] installer can do http or ftp as well [16:24] gmail seems down in France, who can still access it ? [16:24] Camarade_Tux, its down [16:25] Camarade_Tux, ~20 minutes now [16:25] slackytude: they're losing all our mailz! [16:25] aceofspades19: time is short. since i quit school, all i do is read man pages and i have to meet a deadline. [16:25] Camarade_Tux: down over here in the great north as well [16:26] seems down from california too [16:26] s/seems/is/ [16:26] man pages and diy labs are all my classes this semester [16:26] : D [16:27] frankyp, one thing which won't require much is to install sshfs on each target box, then it can access the mounted iso on the internet-capable machine [16:27] just a thought [16:27] Camarade_Tux: you flew from france to california in 1 minute? [16:27] :p [16:27] aceofspades19: yeah :) [16:27] ssh is great ;) [16:27] mancha, good suggestion [16:27] mancha: thats a great idea, [16:27] frankyp, another point, are you going for a fresh install or in place update? [16:28] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:28] http://thenextweb.com/2009/09/01/google-experiencing-downtime-world/# [16:28] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [16:28] well, fresh install of 12.2, then in place update to 13.0 - cause i've never done an inplace update and want the experience [16:28] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:28] frankyp, coz if you want to update the 12.2 machines you better read the correct docs [16:29] hmm.. yeah i've heard that in place updates can break everything [16:29] if you dont do them correctly [16:29] can you recommend some docs for that?\ [16:29] way easier to just install 13 [16:29] or install 13 on all but one and do the inplace stuff there [16:30] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware/UPGRADE.TXT [16:30] well, here is why. (thats a great suggestion, think ill do that, only live update ine box.) once these boxes are up they are mission critical, so from then on i want to just do in place updates [16:31] s/ine/one [16:31] frankyp, once they have 13, all you do is slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [16:31] that should be good for a few years [16:31] unless there is some freaky remote exploit in the kernel [16:32] nice. i'll check out that documentation you pointed at and keep that in mind [16:32] ha [16:33] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:33] Coolmax89 (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-40-116.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:33] and once again, a pxe boot might be the smart thing to do [16:33] http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_PXE.TXT [16:34] frankyp: i'd also run slackpkg clean-system. so long you know what's installed. you might need to recompile a lot of extra's you've installed from 12.1 [16:35] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left irc: [16:35] i thought you'd also need to do a slackpkg install-new before upgrade.. [16:36] agentc0re|work, on a fresh install? [16:36] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:36] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [16:36] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:37] gmaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiil! [16:37] okay, thanks for all the tips guys. i'm sure i'll be in here once i start that upgrade. [16:38] Action: thumbs blames Camarade_Tux for the gmail outage [16:39] no wonder my spam volume today has been low [16:39] thumbs: nah, I already have a scapegoat [16:40] thumbs: blame "Martine" :) [16:41] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-120-219.multimo.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:41] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:42] chthp (n=data@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:43] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:43] hi, i'm trying to configure lilo can anyone help? [16:44] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] hmmmm [16:44] chthp (n=data@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [16:44] Action: aceofspades19 blames Camarade_Tux for everything bad that has happened to him [16:44] harryirene, Please specify the nature of your slackware emergency [16:45] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [16:45] we need a bot in this channel [16:45] aceofspades19: no, it's all Martine's fault -_- [16:45] repeat after me "I blame Martine" [16:46] who is this `Martine` [16:46] best friend ;p [16:46] the guy who broke google [16:46] girl! [16:46] maybe he searched for google in google [16:46] oh ok [16:46] the fool [16:46] oh, a girk [16:46] but actually you can say "guy" -_- [16:46] I blame martine then [16:46] aceofspades19: :) [16:46] slackytude: i have a debian install on sda & slackware on sdb.. lilo will boot slackware, but not debian.. [16:46] the "special" friend with the mushroom thingy [16:47] slackytude: :P [16:47] s/Camrade_Tux/Martine/g [16:47] blame microsoft, they are google's most powerful enemy [16:47] pastebin your lilo.conf [16:47] aceofspades19: hehe ;p [16:47] anyone in here familiar with slack64? i can't get slackpkg to install anything i keep getting this: http://pastebin.com/m71503860 [16:47] wrong mirror? [16:47] france is the cause of everything anyways :p [16:48] france? the land of wine and cheese? (and hairy armpits)? [16:48] now, the france bashin starts again [16:48] slackytude: Oh i must have missed that, i thought he was upgrading. [16:49] they didn't even want to fight in Iraq the commie cowards [16:49] Action: aceofspades19 ducks [16:49] http://pastebin.com/m26bcbd5b [16:49] agentc0re|work, he wanted to do a install 12.2 and then upgrade to 13 for the heck of it. I hope I conviced him otherwise [16:49] those are my mirrors: http://pastebin.com/m4608a10b [16:50] harryirene: what about initrd? i know debian ALWAYS uses one (unless you built a custom kernel for debian) [16:50] Pig_Pen: lol [16:50] root = /dev/cohen/root <-- problem, should point to /dev/sda1 or whatever part on a olds debian's /boot [16:51] Action: slackytude slaps omnipotentduo [16:51] omnipotentduo, look really close what you commented out [16:51] mancha: i've tried /dev/sda1 [16:51] doesn't matter, current setup is wrong [16:51] fdisk -l /dev/sda for me [16:51] OH damned it [16:51] slackytude: thanks [16:52] ^-^ [16:52] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.72) joined ##slackware. [16:52] http://pastebin.com/m3a6ba826 harryirene change the # to the partition number [16:53] i ask again about that friggin initrd because debian always uses one harryirene [16:55] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:55] mancha: http://pastebin.com/d4a61dcff = fdisk -l [16:55] Pig_Pen, guess you are being ignored [16:56] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [16:56] oh well, not my loss [16:57] haha agentc0re|work NO I did not check out that video :) [16:57] that part is totally wrong = root = /dev/cohen/root [16:57] Pig_Pen: no customer kernel or anything on debian [16:57] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] ok, looks like /dev/sda1 is indeed theright place to find your boot stuff, now mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/debian, and look in /mnt/debian/boot, pastebin the ls of that dir [16:58] and the initrd is not in there [16:59] bah [16:59] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-187-91.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.158.93) joined ##slackware. [17:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [17:00] Coolmax1989 (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-125-194.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:00] gotta go, but in that dirif you have an initrd file of sorts (say initrd.img) then below the image line in lilo.conf add initrd=/boot/initrd.img [17:00] or something like that [17:01] #debian should send over some $$ for our cross-support efforts [17:01] lol mancha [17:01] mancha: thanks! [17:02] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-187-91.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [17:03] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] flujan (n=flujan@189.111.254.251) joined ##slackware. [17:04] Coolmax1989 (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-125-194.multimo.pl) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] harryirene: you get it working? [17:06] Pig_Pen: does this make more sense: http://pastebin.com/d144259fa [17:06] thrice`: ping [17:06] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "ciao!" [17:06] wd_ (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:07] yes! that should do it [17:07] goodboy leroy [17:07] heh gmail is down for me too [17:07] thanks, here goes... [17:07] its down for everyone. [17:08] dell.com is 503ing [17:08] harryirene (n=gapinski@adsl-99-60-254-34.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] some clouds [17:08] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] yeah [17:09] harryirene (n=gapinski@adsl-99-60-254-34.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] i've not gotten any cialis, viagra, or nigerian millions emails today, i hope it stays down [17:10] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.21) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] GeneralCody (n=generalc@084202190002.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [17:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:10] mancha: champion articulation [17:10] so when i run lilo (after editing lilo.conf), i get this error: Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-amd64: No such file or directory [17:10] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:10] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "zzzz" [17:11] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!" [17:11] does /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-amd64 even exist? [17:12] where did this lilo.conf come from , how did you fill in those lines? [17:12] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:12] thats a debian kernel [17:12] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-244-24.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] lilo.conf came from running liloconfig [17:13] Any of you guys have a pre? [17:14] how about doing what i asked, mount /dev/sda1 on /mnt/debian or sommit and showing us what /mnt/debian looks like and then if it exists what /mnt/debian/boot looks like [17:14] twinkie_addict (n=david@cpe-24-95-93-218.columbus.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:14] yup, that is right, mancha is right [17:15] http://pastebin.com/d3d819ee9 look at line 8 [17:15] gmail is up for me [17:15] hey would anyone have any idea why my X won't start (crashes) after loading vesafb from lilo? I'm using legacy nvidia drivers from the website ( couldn't get the slackbuild to work properly) [17:16] /dev/sda1 on /media/thumb type ext2 (rw) [17:16] hey it is back up for me too [17:16] clear [17:16] boot grub initrd.img-2.6.26-2-amd64.bak vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-amd64 [17:16] its mounted on /media/thumb ? [17:16] sorry! [17:17] http://pastebin.com/d3d68bd10 line 8 [17:17] i have /dev/sda1 mounted on /media/thumb.. i'll pastebin [17:17] Nick change: alisonken1church -> alisonken1home [17:17] this is rad http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/09/hacking_swine_f.html [17:17] ? [17:18] NOP slides in protein [17:18] "It?s humbling that I could be killed by 3.2 kbytes of genetic data. Then again, with 850 Mbytes of data in my genome, there?s bound to be an exploit or two." [17:18] lol [17:19] just goes to show you how much bloat there is in programming these days [17:19] jekkt (n=jekkt@84.138.126.45) left irc: "Leaving" [17:20] gmail back [17:20] oh heck yeah, an OS can be so bloated with junk files nowadays [17:20] LF4: looooooser!!! [17:20] :P [17:20] Coolmax89 (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-40-116.multimo.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:20] agentc0re|work: Haha get back to work! :P [17:21] this is my contents of /dev/sda1 mounted on /media/thumb : http://pastebin.com/d7071f0a7 [17:21] was noobfarm 1671 suggesting that Slackware not having a stock Flash package was a bug? [17:21] antiwire: haha [17:21] Pig_Pen: not only OSes but all software, I kind of miss the times when people tried to make their programs as compact as can be. [17:21] LF4 is still recovering with his webcam session yesterday with missyjane :P [17:21] monstro (i=1000@187.10.71.54) left irc: "Leaving" [17:21] lol [17:21] /s/with/from [17:21] chopp: Hahaha [17:22] hehe [17:22] GeneralCody (n=generalc@084202190002.customer.alfanett.no) left ##slackware. [17:22] harry, okay, take out the /boot stuff from both the image and initrd then [17:22] Action: LF4 thinks he will never use a webcam again. [17:23] LF4: wtf is wrong with you? [17:23] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] :P [17:23] Action: Alan_Hicks starts paying attention. [17:23] so it should be image=/vmli... and initrd=/initrd... [17:23] agentc0re|work: I dont know you tell me... you work at a hospital. [17:23] what makes an OS? the kernel? the devel tools? its all of it, from one end to the other [17:23] this is relevent to my interests [17:23] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:23] What's this about a web cam session? ;-) [17:23] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] LF4: well first off there are more than 3.2 kbytes of code that's wrong with you. :P [17:24] Alan_Hicks: him and missyjane had a quick session. [17:24] o0 [17:24] webcams should be illegal except for 13 year old girls and FBI agents [17:24] vid or GTFO [17:24] Dominian: You know posting what I just said as the next comment with sequential numbers would be pretty leet noobfarmerish, pushing the meta factor to +11 [17:24] agentc0re|work: Thanks but I think you give me more credit then my 4 braincells can manage. [17:24] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:24] agentc0re|work: for a second, that almost looked like "quickie session" [17:24] antiwire: he he [17:24] lol Pig_Pen [17:24] aceofspades19: haha [17:24] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] antiwire: watch this [17:25] Now that a few more people are awake.. does anyone know the (non-made-up) reason why Slack doesn't ship with gst-plugins-good? [17:25] Alan_Hicks: wow, you mean you haven't had the pleasure of an pm from her? You weren't around much when she first started this game. :P [17:25] Alright, so there's something wrong with the sound in mpd. [17:25] Action: dive goes back to sleep [17:25] LF4: hello, My name is Chris Hansen...how are you today? [17:25] Dominian: lmao [17:25] chopp: lol that girl has issues :) [17:25] Action: aceofspades19 waits for Pig_Pen to get party van'd [17:25] antiwire: done [17:25] ;) [17:25] antiwire: HAHAHAH [17:26] antiwire: Hello errumm Chris Hanson :) [17:26] antiwire: That reminds me of that ventrillo with chris hansen. [17:26] After an upgrade to 13.0, the songs are just sort of skimmed through in 2 seconds. I thought it was a sonata problem at first, so I tried mpc and that produced the same result, so it's definitely mpd. Anybody else had similar issues? [17:26] LF4: trust me, I agree with that 101% [17:26] party van'd? does that mean disappeared? [17:26] chopp: I have, and it was weird. Didn't believe a word she said. Been doing that with others? [17:26] alkos, 13 does boast significant speed increases [17:26] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [17:26] I'm 12 and what is this [17:26] Alan_Hicks: oh yeah [17:27] hello world [17:27] grazymax (n=grazymax@host15-134-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows :-)" [17:27] chopp: problem is I am drawn to people that are like it. often people around me ask why I dont do psychology instead of CS for a degree. [17:27] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:27] Seems like she's trying to get attention anyway she can. [17:27] mancha: No no no... I'm talking about the way the songs are played [17:27] ignored_girl [17:27] mancha: [17:27] Alan_Hicks: then you should thank me... I moved her from the channel to a PM :P [17:27] I played along with her, but she really didn't seem all that sane. [17:27] alkos, quit ruining my jokes [17:27] Action: Zordrak pokes Alan_Hicks as a primary candidate for aforementioned knowledge [17:28] LF4: are you a girl ? [17:28] everyone knows there are no girls on the internet, at the very least on irc [17:28] Nigromante: Why ask? [17:28] just curious [17:28] LF4: I would do anything that I could to help most people, but I put an end to that particular session real fast. [17:28] mancha: i did as you suggest, but still get error running lilo: http://pastebin.com/d5908c5da [17:28] chopp: One pump chump eh? ;) [17:28] mancha: quit making it so easy :P [17:28] aceofspades19: That ain't entirely true. Sometimes they badger their guys until their guys show 'em how to get on. Then they hang out to make sure their bfs ain't doin' some chick online. [17:28] haha chopp you'd be surprised what I have done to help others lol which really made me think about changing my degree. [17:29] okay time to test new xorg.conf [17:29] brb [17:29] agentc0re|work: haha, don't have a cam thank god [17:29] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] lol [17:29] LF4: CS to pron star? [17:29] Action: pi31415 sighs [17:29] pron? [17:29] agentc0re|work: you know it ;) [17:29] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left ##slackware. [17:29] Alan_Hicks: I would like to subscribe to your newsletter [17:29] Nigromante: Ya, like Tron but naked. [17:29] nyRednek (n=yosi@12.171.162.53) joined ##slackware. [17:30] i see [17:30] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:30] I'm testing slackware 13 [17:30] I'm putting it on my PXE server right now. :) [17:30] aceofspades19: Which one? The one where I tell the world all the stupid things I see in IRC? The one where I detail the failings of the US government? Or the one where I relay the direct word of God as spoken to me through an apple pie? [17:31] Hint, I do not have a newsletter. [17:31] haha [17:31] Harry i don't know, use what you had when your debian worked [17:31] Alan_Hicks: dang - you mean I missed the apple pie newsletter? [17:31] or go ask #debian [17:31] Alan_Hicks:they all sound equally relevent to my interests [17:31] 1) impersonate Alan_Hicks 2) make newsletter 3) ??? 4) profit!! [17:31] Alright, so I supposed none of the Slackware users have pres here :P [17:31] well I really think Alan_Hicks is ripping off humanity by not having a blog. what a jip. [17:31] slackytude: you know Alan_Hicks doesn't make money :) [17:32] spook: whut? [17:32] LF4, well, step 3 might be difficult [17:32] pres ? alkos333 [17:32] Quiznos: whut? [17:32] slackytude: 1) Find old joke. 2) Tell it some more. 3) Watch no one laugh. 4) ??? 5) profit [17:32] palm pre [17:32] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [17:32] ah [17:32] Alan_Hicks, in russia, old joke laughs you! [17:32] Nigromante: Palm Pre [17:32] ok [17:32] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:32] Alan_Hicks: those are the underpinnings of the internet [17:32] harryirene debugging this online is turning out to be too much effort right now, i am multitasking...sorry, i gave it a shot [17:32] what about the pre? [17:33] Necos: I'm trying to tether to it via usbnet in Slack 13. [17:33] In Soviet Russia, blog writes Alan_Hicks [17:33] mancha: ok, thanks for you help.. i'm closer now at least! [17:33] Action: Nigromante is glad to know in the Internet nobody knows you are dog [17:33] wat [17:34] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [17:34] well, that failed =( [17:34] Nigromante: your a dog? lol [17:34] harrirene, lvm is playing tricks with us [17:34] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] i won't tell you LF4 [17:34] LF4: yes, he is. :D [17:35] Wuff wuff :P [17:35] lol [17:35] hey fire|bird [17:35] Action: aceofspades19 didn't know dogs were allowed on the internet [17:35] y0 LF4, how's it going? [17:35] aceofspades19: animal racist? [17:35] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/01/218209/GMail-Experiences-Serious-Outage [17:35] lol [17:35] fire|bird: It's going well how about on yourside? [17:35] alkos333, any progress? [17:36] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/01/218209/GMail-Experiences-Serious-Outage-No-One-Is-Surprised [17:36] Nigromante: the internet is for humans only :p [17:36] LF4: going great, thanks. Just messing with this laptop and crash issues. :P [17:37] aceofspades19, speciest! [17:37] fire|bird: 4.3.1 is out >.> [17:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] fire|bird: You always seem to be having issues. *thinks... maybe fire|bird = missyjane?* hahaa [17:37] Necos: \o/ [17:37] LF4: Trust me, I AM NOT her. [17:37] Me either. [17:37] LF4: However, I've experienced her pm'ing me as well. :/ [17:37] aceofspades19: there will come a day when dogs will be allowed to share the same seats as humans in the bus [17:37] OH thems ass kickin words if I ever heard them :P [17:38] chopp: ++ [17:38] :P [17:38] nepenthe (n=ville@YYYLV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Leaving" [17:38] see if we let animals on the internet then we won't be able to have icanhazcheeseburger [17:38] LF4: I will not be subjected to such insults. :P [17:38] fire|bird: haha I kind of found it interesting [17:38] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "reboot" [17:38] fire|bird: haha [17:38] LF4: interesting indeed, whichever way you look at it. Somewhat odd as well. [17:38] flujan (n=flujan@189.111.254.251) left irc: [17:38] Nigromante: Never! [17:38] what is interessting? [17:38] ... [17:39] slackytude: you haven't experienced a pm from missyjane yet? [17:39] KDE4 has not crashed yet... [17:39] Action: LF4 plans to get missyjane to pm slackytude next }:) [17:39] fire|bird, heh, yes, at work. [17:39] lol [17:40] so, I presume I got saved by my timezone? [17:40] why aren't I getting these pms [17:40] eh, truthfully, why would compiling my kernel with vesafb both the nvidia & nv drivers to crash on 'startx'! :( [17:40] :p [17:40] slackytude: yeah you pretty much get on right when she leaves. [17:40] eh? [17:40] LF4, Im guessing thats good? [17:40] aceofspades19: we can change that. :) [17:41] i don't think i've gotten any from missyjane :P [17:41] necos [17:41] im depressed [17:41] she's pm'd me once. i told her to stop begging for attention. she didn't understand. i told her that how she whines is why there are quite a bit of people in here that pick on her. [17:41] Action: chopp gits sick a little in his mouth [17:41] im gonna break my tour [17:41] slackytude: Haha I dont think you can repect life with out having missyjane PM you. [17:41] s/life/death/ [17:41] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: "Saindo" [17:41] LF4: wait, I'm not sure I want this to happen [17:41] LF4, damn you for irking my morbid curiosity [17:41] Necos: isn't that a good thing? ;) [17:41] my trap senses are tingling [17:42] aceofspades19: getting a pm from here is only a matter of time. [17:42] i guess so agentc0re|work lol [17:42] her* [17:42] jeev, wtf is up now? [17:42] aceofspades19: slackytude no problem I'll get her to PM you guys next :P [17:42] i missed an auction i was waitnig for 3 days [17:42] LF4: haha [17:42] all 5 of them, cheap ass prices [17:42] LF4, nah, I have no webcam and no time for that as well. [17:42] slackytude: you dont need one ;) [17:42] Action: slackytude shrugs [17:42] jeev: maybe you should invest in an alarm clock [17:42] that's wack jeev :( [17:43] aceofspades19, even worse.. i had ebay sniper ready to go [17:43] slackytude: no cam necessary, she'll talk about whatever anyway. :) [17:43] you have a damn blackberry, get MyAlarm :P [17:43] i just didnt click on it cause i was stupid shit [17:43] im so upset [17:43] fire|bird: you webcam'd with her too? [17:43] i missed it by 25 minutes and i was sitting at my desk [17:43] oh well, and whats bad about a chat? [17:43] anyway [17:43] agentc0re|work: I don't have a webcam, so nope. :) [17:43] slackytude: its a trap! [17:43] I shall go off [17:43] we on about missyjane? [17:43] Zordrak: yeah [17:43] heh.. i got offered [17:43] Zordrak: you have a story too about it? [17:43] Zordrak: lol [17:44] lol [17:44] Zordrak: offered what exactly? :P [17:44] heh [17:44] did I miss anything special? [17:44] do tell. :P [17:44] lol jeev, you fail :P [17:44] Action: LF4 doesnt own a webcam [17:44] Did she message you guys too without asking in here first? [17:44] twinkie_addict (n=david@cpe-24-95-93-218.columbus.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:44] Zordrak, Im wondering that meself. [17:44] depression Necos, it sucks! stupid ebay [17:45] fire|bird: No [17:45] wd (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] she PMd me cause i ragged on straterra.. which seemed to please her greatly. [17:45] jeev: Ever tried esniper to bid on auctions automatically? [17:45] heh [17:45] lol [17:45] not sure HOW much mind :) [17:45] lol [17:45] maybe i should get the webcam out at work and find out [17:46] Zordrak: just know we warned you. :) [17:46] guys trying to mount a slack nfs server and got error today "mount: mount to NFS server '172.16.1.36' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered. what does this mean? [17:46] nepenthe (n=ville@KMMCMXXV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [17:46] wd, portmapper [17:46] ? [17:46] Is it that bad? [17:46] wow that was fun :") , fans sounded odd took off the back of my box and holy god it looked like a dust bomb whent off lol took about 10 minets to clean up , [17:46] hey Alan_Hicks [17:46] LF4: if you could describe her with a type of food, what food would you use? [17:46] slackytude: hmmm. it's not on? [17:46] fire|bird: Howdy. [17:46] Alan_Hicks: How are you? [17:46] agentc0re|work: pork. ;-) [17:46] i have to stay ontop of that wow [17:46] wd, turn it on then [17:46] agentc0re|work: lol is that a trick question? [17:47] slackytude: but y all of a sudden? [17:47] fire|bird: Good. Gotta leave in a few minutes though. [17:47] LF4: dunno how it could be. [17:47] wd, how am I supposed to know [17:47] wd: chmod a+x /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc; /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc start [17:47] slackytude: i never turned it off... how? [17:47] slackytude: ty [17:47] agentc0re|work: Lets see what type of food... :/ [17:47] pork? is missyjane a hefty girl? [17:47] Pig_Pen: I have no idea. [17:47] Pig_Pen: She pm'd you too, didn't she? [17:47] ex-model.. supposedly [17:47] Pig_Pen: haha not all are pigs :) and no shes not big. [17:48] Toe-model? [17:48] who is missyjane after all? [17:48] i been trying to get her to post a photo of her self [17:48] any word on if Slackware 13 works with VMware Workstation's 'Unity' feature? [17:48] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] HoldMyPocket, whats that [17:48] Pig_Pen: Really? she wont except in PM. [17:48] HoldMyPocket: who cares.. use VirtualBox's seamless mode :) [17:48] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] missyjane is some girl that lives in NYC [17:48] ah [17:48] Pig_Pen, that much seems certain [17:48] Zordrak: i'll do. ty. i remember checking permissions and they seemd ok.. i'll check again. [17:48] Zordrak: the problem with VirtualBox is it doesn't support dual monitors [17:48] all else is clouded in myths, it seems [17:49] HoldMyPocket: I'll find that out once I get 13 installed on my test machine. [17:49] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] slackytude: unity from vmware basically makes it look like you have two operating systems running seamlessy [17:49] And we can't exactly be certain about even that. [17:49] HoldMyPocket, I see. no clue [17:49] slackytude: except we know she likes individual attention [17:49] how many citizens in New York ? [17:49] Zordrak: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1402 2007-05-17 15:53 /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc* [17:49] Zordrak: see [17:49] Zordrak, well, thats unusual for a girl [17:49] wd: /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc start [17:49] slackytude: heh [17:49] haha slackytude [17:49] she might be a midget living in a circus tent [17:50] lol [17:50] slackytude: it is for a girl in IRC [17:50] Pig_Pen: There couldnt be two of us.. [17:50] LF4, depends on the channel, Id say [17:50] Action: LF4 wonders what channels slackytude visits? [17:50] Action: slackytude has 3 sisters [17:50] for what you say, it seems that girl may be a politician [17:50] Action: LF4 only has one [17:50] slackytude: are they hot? [17:50] Action: Zordrak wonders why LF4 doesn't just /whois slackytude [17:50] LF4: slackytude is a #windows lurker. :P [17:51] Zordrak: I'm scared to find out. [17:51] i have two sisters, one is a good girl marred with three kids, the other is a psycho meth freak [17:51] fire|bird: he's always in there. [17:51] agentc0re|work, none of your business -_- [17:51] EWWWW [17:51] UNCLEAN [17:51] slackytude: :P [17:51] Windows && Python [17:51] i have two sisters, one is a good girl [17:51] fire|bird, LF4 not a lurker, I do participate as well ^-^ [17:51] mancha: can I have the other? [17:51] mancha what is the other one like? [17:51] slackytude: yeah, I know. Good work. :) [17:51] Zordrak: bin 2490 0.0 0.2 1804 532 ? Ss 14:21 0:00 /sbin/rpc.portmap [17:51] oops damn misread....though it said "one is a girl" and then it woulda been funny. [17:52] Action: mancha goes back to work [17:52] hm [17:52] Zordrak: mount: mount to NFS server '172.16.1.36' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered. [17:52] Zordrak: darnit. [17:52] my father broke his back [17:52] wd: rpcinfo -p [17:52] Zordrak: ok [17:52] wd: rc.rpc has to be started *before* rc.nfsd, on the server [17:52] Wow I get a freaking 5.4MB/s transfering to this old P2 system. [17:52] (howdy, folx) [17:53] y0 Urchlay [17:53] y0 Urchlay [17:53] hey Urchlay [17:53] disastrous|recovery [17:53] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [17:53] LF4: can I pm you a url to compare this pic with what you saw on webcam? [17:53] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [17:53] chopp: save the pm [17:53] i would not arrange a date with my evil sister even for my worse enemy, she might have STDs and will steal everything she can, i dont even let her in my house [17:53] chopp: share the wealt [17:53] chopp: share the wealth [17:53] chopp: hahaha you saved it? [17:53] chopp, share it ^-^ [17:53] chopp: sure pm [17:53] wait?!?! who said I webcammed with her? [17:54] Pig_Pen, that's sad stuff. I know the type [17:54] Urchlay: ok. [17:54] LF4: from what I read above, it seemed like you did. [17:54] LF4: you didn't? [17:54] eh? people still don't know whether or not missyjane is a girl? [17:54] Urchlay: nfsd not required for remote mount [17:54] yeah its sad, she ruined herself over some stupid drugs, its shameful [17:54] Zordrak: on the server, I said [17:54] Urchlay: missyjane is a girl that much I know. [17:54] hm.. fair point.. was dealing with client [17:55] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] Pig_Pen: how old is she? [17:55] is their away to get workbone to use digital extraction rather than analog cable from cdrom to mb i dont have one atm [17:55] chopp: fire|bird: no agentc0re|work was messing around with me. [17:55] nepenthe (n=ville@KMMCMXXV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] chopp: how long ago did she give you the link? [17:55] LF4: ya, but you responded as if you did have a session with her. [17:55] who HAS seen a pic/webcam? [17:55] twinkie_addict: I don't think so, but mplayer should be able to do it [17:55] Pig_Pen, ever told you about a friend of mine who is now a bum? managed to do that even without drugs. dont understand it [17:55] chopp: I saw a pic [17:55] born in 1954, that would make her 55 or 56? [17:55] ok [17:55] thanks [17:56] Pig_Pen: oh, nm. too old. My brother did the same thing.. we could have hooked them up. [17:56] Zordrak: http://nopaste.com/p/aRun7Ndclb [17:56] agentc0re|work: Well, I am now doing a full upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new on the slack64 tree, if this doesn't fix it, something is bad wrong. :P [17:56] twinkie_addict: mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/cdrom cdda://1 <--- plays track 1. I haven't got any audio CDs handy to test with, though [17:56] hmm.. no udp portmapper.. but shouldnt matter [17:57] fire|bird: its a PICNIC error [17:57] fire|bird: i'd even go as far as doing a slackpkg clean-install [17:57] Zordrak: http://nopaste.com/p/aiBOuGRsC [17:57] Zordrak: dmesg ^^ [17:57] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:57] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:57] agentc0re|work: yeah, that may be a next step [17:57] LF4: PICNIC? :P [17:57] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:58] fire|bird: Problem In Chair Not In Computer [17:58] hahaha [17:58] nepenthe (n=ville@YYKDLXXXV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [17:58] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] LF4: Well, that happens all the time, you should know that. :P [17:58] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] Action: LF4 nods [17:58] flujan (n=flujan@189.111.254.251) joined ##slackware. [17:58] stop nodding, your head'll roll of your neck. :P [17:58] hello there. [17:59] wd: mkdir -p /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery [17:59] y0 hitest [17:59] hello flujan [17:59] Zordrak: ok [17:59] fire|bird: already has. [17:59] LF4: ouch :P [17:59] hi fire|bird [17:59] wd: on client and server restart rpc.. then on server restart nfsd.. then try mount [17:59] LF4: sew it back on? [17:59] Zordrak: hm, I've got an nfs server that complains about that missing dir, but it works fine anyway [18:00] hey guys, on slackware there is a way to prevent someone from booting with a live disk, edit the /etc/shadow and reset the root password? [18:00] fire|bird: That would hurt I just sudo head-restart :) [18:00] yeah, it should still work [18:00] Zordrak: ok [18:00] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:00] flujan: set a BIOS password (not a slackware-specific solution) [18:01] flujan: use an encrypted root partition [18:01] ugh... [18:01] LF4: ahh, and that works? [18:01] Urchlay: both will require a password every boot right [18:01] flujan: yes [18:01] flujan, not really [18:02] flujan, you usually can set BIOS to prompt for password only if someone tries to change settings [18:02] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] flujan, like, boot from CD [18:02] flujan: eh, wait, BIOS password should only mean you need the password to enter the BIOS setup, not just a normal boot [18:02] Ensure that HD is first boot device. [18:02] flujan: just diable all booting besides HDD in the BIOS and set a BIOS password. [18:02] Prevent physical access to box. [18:02] flujan, but, funny enough, some BIOS *still* allow booting via CD sometimes, via the quick boot menu [18:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [18:02] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.27) left irc: [18:02] even a complete idiot can bypass that, with physical access [18:02] glue the CDrom tray shut [18:03] jeev, do you sync your blackberry in linux? [18:03] an encrypted filesystem is better [18:03] Urchlay: true so why not remove the drive them? [18:03] Or disconnect it. [18:03] s/them/then? [18:03] LF4: cause you might need it later? I dunno [18:03] LF4: people can reset the bios... the best way is a crypt the root partition... but It will require a password to unlock it . [18:03] gm152: thats the same as just setting a BIOS password. [18:04] flujan: Where is this PC going to be located and what type of people are you worried about messing with it? [18:04] LF4: personally I'm not so paranoid, but then my only running box lives in my bedroom, and nobody who lives here knows/cares how to break into it [18:04] LF4: I have a aplication running on the server. I will deploy it on some clients... Do not want them to stole my application. [18:04] Urchlay: Same here but I did have to set up a few terminals at the City/County Building where we had to have it locked down well. [18:05] flujan: I meant where is the server physically located. [18:05] LF4: same stuff here... need to setup some boxes with a openvpn. Don't wanna some guys breaking it and getting access to my corporate vpn. [18:05] Zordrak: yay...was it the lack of the dir? [18:05] LF4: at the client [18:05] physical locked up is the first part of security. [18:05] time to install slackware 13 k bye bye [18:06] night everyone :) [18:06] mmm... slack13 [18:06] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@12.157.146.158) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:06] i bet somebody builds secure PC cases that can be locked with a key, maybe even lock the front so the CD tray and buttons can not be accessed [18:06] flujan: Ok lets see.. so you are hosting a service that will have client terminals at remote locations. [18:07] Action: LF4 remembers the old keyboard/PC barrel locks. :) [18:07] wd: possibly.. certainly nfs was complaining in the dmesg you pasted that it wasnt there and after a 90s grace period it would die [18:07] s/nfs/nfsd/ [18:07] Pig_Pen: and I bet you can still use SysRq or forkbombs [18:07] http://www.datalinksales.com/media_storage_transport/media_cabinets/pc_cabinet.htm i bet its not cheap [18:08] Camarade_Tux, you can disable sysrq and set ulimit [18:08] slackytude: we perfectly agree, you *can* ;-) [18:08] you can also pull the ethernet cable.... [18:08] I bet SysRq is often forgotten, probably more often than ulimit [18:08] flujan: What about putting the case with in a storage compartment like Pig_Pen showed and only letting the person have access to the keybaord/mouse/monitor? [18:08] LF4: yeap... I will setup the server on my client main site. The terminals are on other places. [18:08] Camarade_Tux, altho both shouldnt give you anything on a encrypted system [18:09] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] slackytude: sure [18:09] even some roll away tool boxes are locking, you could lock the tower in a steel box [18:10] I was just thinking that sysrq was probably available everywhere ;) [18:10] flujan: You would then have a lock and key for the compartment. [18:10] and I just stepped into the conversation ;) [18:10] Camarade_Tux, probably [18:11] LF4: yeap... physical is done but about a guy accessing the machine... that will be hard. [18:11] http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/556/724full.jpg [18:12] Oh no! A Borg! [18:12] Wait.. which one's telly and which one's reality again? [18:12] LF4: if the guys get the machine and remove the HD he will be able to access the data and the openvpn key files [18:12] slackytude: hahaha :P [18:12] Zordrak, go ask alice, I think she knows [18:12] flujan: How trust-worthy are your clients? [18:13] flujan, encrypt it [18:13] ++ slackytude [18:13] LF4: On a 0 up to 10 . 0 lol [18:13] flujan: Hahaha interesting. [18:13] slackytude: alicephilippa definitely does not know.. and she likes it that way [18:13] slackytude: this will still require a password to decrypt at boot. [18:13] flujan, thats kind of the point [18:14] flujan: They have to accept that the system needs to be on 24/7 [18:14] flujan: http://xkcd.com/538/ [18:14] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Action: alicephilippa thwaps Zordrak [18:14] :) [18:14] Haha agentc0re|work I was thinking the same thing. [18:15] alicephilippa: since you're there: http://blog.tpa.me.uk [18:15] agentc0re|work: lol [18:15] flujan: So you're saying the client's are not trustworthy and you already have the physical case locked up so they cant access it with out breaking in? [18:15] fsteim (n=pedro@189.35.67.193) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:16] LF4: thats why my server rooms have codelocks on them [18:16] Zordrak: lol but we are talking about client terminals. [18:16] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:17] are we? I thought he meanr server access [18:17] LF4: nice! It's very true though. [18:17] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [18:17] LF4: would happen in the courts too. [18:17] slackytude: Nope client side. [18:17] LF4: you'd probably get life until you gave up your password. [18:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:17] LF4: buh? [18:17] agentc0re|work: Haha true [18:18] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Zordrak: huh? [18:18] meh [18:18] Nick change: omnipotentduo -> omni_food [18:19] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:19] Zordrak: check out any of those plugin's i listed yesterday? [18:20] flujan: Ever thought about using thin clients? [18:21] ntop in 13 now? [18:21] agentc0re|work: most :) [18:22] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73718.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:22] Zordrak: like that admin plugin? I think it makes the interface soo much better. [18:23] yeah.. i responded yesterday.. i like it, but would like it more if it were present on the main pages when logged in as an admin as well [18:23] Zordrak: that would be neat. [18:23] there is an equivalent of that functionality built into the WP main site [18:23] but not found it for self-install yet [18:25] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:25] figabo (n=Slacker@187.149.20.8) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:25] figabo (n=Slacker@187.149.20.8) joined ##slackware. [18:26] figabo (n=Slacker@187.149.20.8) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:26] figabo (n=Slacker@187.149.20.8) joined ##slackware. [18:29] so how does one troubleshoot an X crash on start when the backtrace is 2 lines? [18:29] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [18:30] Hrm..yeah all i see is (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GART.\n Backtrace:\n 0: X(xf86SigHanlder+0x7e) [0x80d8b5e]\n 1: [0xb7f27400]\n Fatal Server error! [18:30] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [18:31] arcsky (n=arcsky@2a01:48:100:1:1:0:0:1c2) joined ##slackware. [18:31] not too informative ;[ [18:31] evening [18:31] ./tlswrap: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [18:31] anyone know how to fix that? [18:31] >.< [18:31] intall openssl libs [18:31] maybe install the hehe [18:31] its installed [18:32] what mancha said [18:32] ldconfig? [18:32] i know it worked on this shell before a reboot and not now [18:32] symbolic link maybe? (not sure if you're supposed to do this but i've done it in the past) [18:32] wierd [18:32] i have no root permissions [18:33] Wescotte_ (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] eh? what the hell is wrong with SBo? [18:33] pemkas [18:33] Necos, SBo working fine for me [18:33] Necos: nothing.. who said there wsas [18:34] none of the graphics are showing up... lol maybe it's FF [18:34] Necos: Ctrl-F5 [18:34] css fail [18:34] yeah, i figured as much [18:35] bugs when it does that [18:36] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:36] Wescotte_ (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:36] nvidiafb conflicts with the drivers, correct? [18:36] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:36] flujan (n=flujan@189.111.254.251) left irc: [18:38] how can it make it so it use /home/arcsky/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 ? [18:38] hah [18:38] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:40] if you have no root how is tlswrap gonna open alisten on 21? [18:41] >1024 [18:41] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@m4c0436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] give it -L flags [18:43] /tlswrap: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [18:43] libcrypto.so.0.9.7 i have in /var/lib [18:43] corte: yes, it conflicts [18:44] corte: If you want to have higher res CLI you need to use the vesafb [18:44] vesafb doesn't conflict with the nvidia drivers but it is not as feature rich as the nvidiafb [18:44] antiwire, that's what i've been trying but it no matter what i try, x crashes at start (using nvidia drivers) [18:44] corte: set it in xorg.conf [18:44] as soon as i remove vesa support, X comes up fine [18:45] corte: what does your xorg.conf look like when you try to use the nvidia driver? [18:45] corte: Sorry not xorg.conf but the bootloader. [18:45] evo- (n=evo@p57ADA4A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [18:45] my xorg.conf has all the default nvidia options, which work fine without the vesafb support compiled in [18:46] i did have a custom config due to compiz, but i've backed this up & let nvidia configure it all [18:46] corte: I don't know what to tell you. I use vesafb for CLI and nvidia proprietary drivers fine on my system [18:46] ^^ Same here. [18:47] corte: use the nvidia driver in xorg.conf and in your bootloader add vga=### to the kernel line that you boot from. [18:47] Yeah =\..what version you guys use? i use the legacy 96 driver [18:47] 190.18 [18:47] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [18:47] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:47] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:47] antiwire: Nvidia is up to 190?! lol didn't knwo taht. [18:47] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:47] It's probably got something to do with the legacy driver [18:47] someone else is trying to get itworking? [18:47] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [18:47] 190.18 is beta [18:47] antiwire: Ahh ok :) [18:47] I am still unable to get nvidia drivers working on my laptop [18:48] testing a xorg.conf right now tho [18:48] so how's vesafb compare to uvesafb? [18:48] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:48] wtf.. googlebot is crawling.. but not indexing [18:48] corte: I just use the vesafb [18:48] Zordrak: google seems to be having systemic issues right now [18:49] out of curiosity, how would you know that it was crawling not indexing ha? [18:49] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [18:50] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [18:50] so i just did a slackpkg upgrade-all. i see several "grep: /var/lib/slackpkg/pkglist: no such file or directory" errors [18:50] along with md5sum errors for packages not being found [18:50] corte: cos i have many hits from googlebots.. but google webmaster tools shows no indexing done and +a site:mysite returns nothing [18:51] amazon10x: upgrade slackpkg first [18:51] Zordrak, gotcha [18:51] Zordrak: ,k [18:51] amazon10x: slackpkg upgrade slackpkg [18:51] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [18:52] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [18:53] i got the package manually and it says it's already upgraded [18:53] then when i do `slackpkg upgrade slackpkg` it says no packages match the pattern [18:54] use upgradepkg [18:54] KillerV (i=1000@bhe200150042213.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:54] i did [18:54] says it's already upgraded [18:54] "skipping package blahblah (already installed)" [18:54] then do upgradepkg --reinstall packagehere && slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [18:56] SlackWeird (n=slackwar@unaffiliated/slackwared) joined ##slackware. [18:56] heyllo [18:57] antiwire: okay, doing that now [18:57] install ddclient using slackbuild, followed install directions getting error: sudo /etc/rc.d/init.d/ddclient start [18:57] Starting ddclient: Usage: ddclient {start|stop|restart|status} [18:57] CmdLnKid_ (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [18:57] status reports ddclient not started. [18:57] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [18:57] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] Youve configured your computer to use SMTP and IMAP via a tunneled SSH connection to your ISPs e-mail server for improved security. Why might you still want to use GPG encryption for your e-mails on top of the encryption provided by SSH? [18:58] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:58] SlackWeird: because gpg will encrypt the message data in the message store [18:59] antiwire: scored [18:59] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [18:59] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:59] ssh tunnel only secures the traffic, not the stored message [18:59] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424091.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:59] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [18:59] ssh will encryption only the headears [18:59] no. [19:00] i meant will not [19:00] ssh will encrypt the whole data stream [19:00] but after the transfer, messages are stored on the server in plaintext unless they are encrypted prior to sending [19:01] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [19:01] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] it goes like this: write email, encrypt with gpg, send over ssh/ssl/tls channel, server receives an decrypted stream and stores gpg encrypted message. [19:01] security and integrity of message is maintained [19:01] The SSH tunnel only reaches as far as the first e-mail server; GPG encrypts data on all the computers all the way to or from your e-mail correspondents. [19:02] an/and [19:02] I typoed all over that but I think you get the idea. [19:03] much yeah [19:03] ty [19:05] arcsky (n=arcsky@2a01:48:100:1:1:0:0:1c2) left irc: "leaving" [19:06] antiwire: the same happens with ssl encryption doent it? [19:06] through a browser for exemple [19:06] sort of, except with ssl, PKI is used [19:07] for ssh we are using either password or key based auth without certificate authorities (usually) [19:08] if you use openvpn you get to use a CA [19:08] sorry guys [19:08] newbie mistake [19:08] wd: that's why no one answered lol [19:08] antiwire: lol [19:08] antiwire: oh you. [19:08] I see what you did there ;) [19:08] antiwire: i dare not tell what i did.. :) [19:09] Wow.. i forgot just how piss-poor yahoo is [19:09] antiwire: nope. what did i do and if you can tell me i will bow here right now in front of everyone. :) [19:09] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:09] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [19:10] you had init.d in the path [19:10] antiwire: nope [19:10] antiwire: i installed the slackbuild [19:10] antiwire: but didn't installpkg yet.. such a damn newbie mistake. [19:11] antiwire: but i will bow for your previous accomplishments.. :) [19:11] then your paste doesn't make sense [19:11] Action: wd is bowing [19:11] if you hadn't installed it you shouldn't have had the rc script in place at all... [19:11] antiwire: ## For those using Redhat style rc files and using daemon-mode: [19:11] cp sample-etc_rc.d_init.d_ddclient /etc/rc.d/init.d/ddclient [19:12] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:12] antiwire: ## start the first time by hand [19:12] /etc/rc.d/init.d/ddclient start [19:12] see [19:12] I use the dyndns client [19:12] antiwire: hmmm. i do too. [19:13] you're using ddclient [19:13] antiwire: yep [19:13] troy_ (n=troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:13] ndyndns is what I mean to say that I use [19:13] antiwire: ddclient-3.8.0-i486-2_SBo.tgz [19:14] hey guys, couple of quick questions if anyone has time: fresh install, slack64 13.0. [19:14] antiwire: oh i'll google that and read on it.. what happened to dyndns.. not good? [19:14] first: there's no xorg.conf installed by default, is that normal? [19:14] wd: I use ndyndns to update dyndns... [19:14] wd: you use ddclient... [19:15] http://code.google.com/p/ndyndns/ [19:15] antiwire: ok [19:15] secondly: how do I have X autogenerate an xorg.conf? X seems to be working fine using some sort of autodetection, so I'd like to dump that config somehow... [19:16] antiwire: sounds good.. ddclient is ok right? [19:16] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [19:16] wd: I guess, I don't use it though [19:16] Action: wd forgot to bow to Zordrak for help earlier as well. :) [19:16] antiwire: ok [19:16] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:18] antiwire: umm i'm lost with checkinstall not supported, i read about slacktrack but darn it's well.. anyway for apps you can't find in slackbuild what do you do? for eg.. you ndyns i see is a tar.gz? [19:18] I write a build for it. [19:18] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "no need to miss me, I'll be back" [19:18] antiwire: damn you.. i knew you were going to say that.. i tried with the template build and keep failing. [19:19] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-4-154.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] antiwire: wel i know why for 10.2 .. the mpcu had to be changed but for 12.2 well. [19:20] antiwire: do you use the template build script and fillin? [19:20] and checkinstall is supported if you pull the git version. [19:20] Even then though, checkinstall doesn't always work. [19:21] wd: Step one is to learn how to manually compile and install software [19:21] antiwire: i've been told so it's all about building your own. [19:21] wd: unless you do you'll just be treading water [19:21] Zordrak: ./configure make make install [19:21] don't do that [19:21] antiwire: ? wrong. [19:21] wd: ./configure --help [19:21] you'll create a mess which you will never remember [19:22] Zordrak: gotcha [19:22] make DESTDIR=/tmp/package- [19:22] make DESTDIR=/tmp/package- insta;; [19:22] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:22] damniit [19:22] both of those were meant to be [19:22] antiwire: that's why i'm lost without checkinstall ..damn you gentoo! for emerging and doing everything.. :) [19:22] make DESTDIR=/tmp/package- install [19:23] yeah just until you find something you want to package is it only partially supports DESTDIR when means it will still spray crap all over [19:23] is it/and it [19:24] antiwire: less alcohol and beers [19:24] I guess you've never had to deal with half assed Makefiles then... [19:24] frk (n=frk@189.58.215.235.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:25] antiwire: i was referring to your almost-sentence [19:25] I'm not drunk and haven't even had any alcohol to drink. [19:25] harryirene (n=gapinski@adsl-99-60-254-34.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:25] It was a brain to fingers translation glitch [19:26] antiwire: no.. sorry. i've been spoild.. just when i thought i was a novice i found 10.2 and got it running on my toshiba laptop 400cs 2g hd/ 40meg ram/ 75mhz..oh yeah..faster than debian sarge. [19:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:26] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:26] when you think one thing but the motor side of the operation executes a side thought out of order [19:26] antiwire: i thought gentoo was the shit..then i found slackware.. now 12.2 on all my boxes.. yay [19:27] wd: 13 [19:27] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:27] Zordrak: oh no.. i'm still playing with 12.2 .. damn you. :) [19:27] darn it the md5 checksum file for 13's iso is messed up. Could someone post the MD5 hash? [19:27] wd, same here [19:27] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:27] LF4: check any mirror for the md5sums [19:28] nyRednek: hehe [19:29] alienBOB: it's a pleasure sir.. i've read many of your guides.. thank you sir. [19:29] alienBOB: Do you know why gstreamer is shipped, but without gst-plugins-good? [19:29] alienBOB: i can understand not wanting bag/ugly.. but good seems a no brainer.. pidgin for example cant play its notificatio wavs without plugins-good [19:30] antiwire: make my own builds.. ok.. do you use the temlate? [19:30] alienBOB: Hardly any have the iso for 64 lol thanks :) I got it now though. [19:30] troy_ (n=troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [19:33] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:35] great :( 13 iso is messed up [19:35] lol [19:36] LF4: redownload, go go go :P [19:36] fire|bird: :P [19:36] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:36] evo- (n=evo@p57ADA4A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [19:37] LF4: ARGH, not even a upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new fixed this issue. WHAT THE..... :P [19:38] LF4: thats what happen when not use wget [19:39] SlackWeird: I was trying to be helpful and use torrent instead of wget. lol [19:39] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [19:39] fire|bird: lol you just borked the system :P accept and move on like I have. [19:39] just seed dude [19:39] LF4: I will NOT do that. :P [19:39] LF4: There has to be a reason for this and a solution that isn't a full format-reinstall :P [19:40] LF4: besides, this is a fresh install from barely a week ago, all I've installed is the xfce-plugins, opera, and flash :/ [19:40] and kde 4.3 [19:40] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [19:40] SlackWeird: the file is corrupted I cant seed that. [19:40] fire|bird: lol practice makes perfect ;) [19:40] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] just seed, after you wgot it ;D [19:42] you have to wget it before you can say you wgot it [19:42] lol [19:42] SlackWeird: lol could do that. :) [19:42] haha Pig_Pen [19:43] mailed pat about gst-plugins-good [19:43] alienBOB: look what you made me do :) [19:44] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [19:44] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [19:45] what is error 2 when running make install(I assume because I get it with a slackbuild for wine.) [19:45] ? [19:45] you'll need to paste the error [19:45] the "2" means nothing [19:45] jescis : that error means nothing. you have to go above it [19:46] whoa! gmail was down but since it's back it's faster than it ever was [19:46] they musht have emptied all the smap mail boxes heh [19:46] ron1n (n=ron1n@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] maybe google did a big hardware upgrade [19:47] gmail rhymes with fail for a reason [19:47] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [19:47] hey guys quick question, whats slackware's init system called? I know debian uses sysvinit, and it isn't that. I don't think its unique to slackware either. [19:47] _bruno__ (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:47] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:47] Nick change: _bruno__ -> _bruno [19:47] slcakware is sysvinit [19:47] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.248) joined ##slackware. [19:47] thrice`: okay thank [19:48] but it uses bsd-style scripts [19:48] gotcha [19:48] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:48] sysv = system 5 (the v is a roman numeral) i believe [19:48] I see [19:48] damnnit.. why cant they engineer a way to multithread tar? [19:48] system v was a unix OS [19:48] :D [19:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYSV [19:49] yup [19:49] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:49] here it is y'all: http://pastebin.ca/1550935 [19:50] jescis: higher! :) [19:51] thrice`: Did you notice 4.3.1 is out now? :P [19:52] indeed :) [19:52] the changelog seemed quite boring, though [19:53] firedix (n=firedix@host89.201-252-184.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:53] yeah, did you see who it's dedicated to? [19:53] KDE 4.3.1 is dedicated to Emma Hope Pyne, the daughter of Michael Pyne. Emma Hope suddenly passed away last week. The KDE community feels incredibly sad about this loss and wishes Michael and the family and friends all the strength needed to cope with the loss of Emma Hope. [19:53] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [19:54] here it is thrice` : http://pastebin.ca/1550941 [19:54] how about that? [19:54] I figured out that arora doesn't work, becuase Pat's qt is too old [19:55] arora doesn't work? [19:55] it works, but not well; a cookie issue the webkit in 4.5.1, that was fixed in 4.5.2 [19:56] jescis: sorry, that's the right error now, but I'm not sure how to fix it :\ [19:56] jescis: are you on slack 13? [19:56] 12.2 [19:57] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [19:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:57] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [19:57] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Nick change: caio -> Guest94163 [19:57] jescis: you could try alien's package: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/wine/pkg/12.2/ [19:59] thrice`, I'm runnin slackpkg upgrade-all [19:59] running* [20:03] kevin01123 (n=pooky1@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:04] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:04] So, I pulled the latest Slackware64 13 updates and overwrote my old rc.fonts. Now I can't use anything. Could someone help a fool? [20:05] ARGH, I have tried different video drivers, different de/wm's, ran upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new on the slack64 tree, completely removed everything in /home/firebird, and I STILL have the crash issue. This is insane. :P [20:05] hey kevin01123 [20:05] kevin01123: you don't happen to have backups, do you? :P [20:06] fire|bird: No. Again, a fool. =[ [20:06] I've got the LiveCD up, but I can't chroot into my drive. [20:06] lol, did customize rc.fonts or you just don't have it now at all? [20:06] troy (n=troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] antiwire: even though i see hosts.allow hosts.deny doesn't mean denyhosts is installed in 12.2 right? because i can't find it. :) [20:07] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:07] fire|bird: The only thing in the file is the command "setfont -v". [20:07] antiwire: and alien's site has checkinstall.. yay. [20:07] wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] troy (n=troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:08] kevin01123: So you just lost rc.font completely then? [20:08] antiwire: if that fails then i'll plunge into building my own. [20:08] fire|bird: I guess, although I don't have the stock to compare it too. [20:09] This is going to sound stupid but what is the proper way to modify the ffmpeg slackbuild for slack 13.0.. There are a bunch of "if [ "${DC1394:-no}" = "no" ]; then" type lines.. Do I just change the -no to -yes? I slackbuild.ffmpeg DC1394=yes? or what? [20:09] kevin01123: Are you able to still boot that system though and get to a desktop with it? [20:09] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.72) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] fire|bird: No. It stops and drops me in a tty with no hostname. Login doesn't work either. [20:10] yikes [20:10] I am not sure, but it sounds like maybe more is borked than rc.font, but I could be wrong [20:10] kevin01123: What did you do that sparked this issue? [20:11] fire|bird: I "slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all" [20:11] kevin01123: From one version to another or what? [20:12] fire|bird: Nope. Stock Slackware 13. Straight install. [20:12] So, you were just updating your slackware 13 install? [20:12] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:13] fire|bird: Yes. [20:13] jmonter (i=3fc7dba2@gateway/web/freenode/x-lrhwicqdwmhzdmwg) joined ##slackware. [20:13] hello everyone. [20:13] hello jmonter [20:13] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:13] kevin01123: What are you doing to chroot to that install that is failing? [20:14] can someone help me out with the following: I'm trying to compile Linux-PAM and keep getting the following error message [20:14] fire|bird: It can't find /bin/sh. [20:14] error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check [20:14] I was trying to see if the live session had a rc.font, but alsa, no. [20:14] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] get the same error message trying to compile entrance [20:15] any ideas? [20:15] kevin01123: What command are you using to chroot? Have you mounted your slackware install first? [20:15] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:16] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "savIRC - The Cross-Platform IRC Client" [20:17] jmonter: It doesn't seem like there's many around at the moment, so sit back, relax, be patient, and if someone comes along that can help, they will. :) [20:18] eh? [20:18] agentc0re|work: that didn't fix it either [20:18] bummer. [20:18] flash just sucks. [20:18] that's all. [20:18] fire|bird: thx [20:18] agentc0re|work: I'm leaning back towards flash, I remove flash, completely, and it doesn't crash. [20:18] fire|bird: I'm just reinstalling. :( [20:19] in kde4 anyone know how to make the widgets not get close to each other automatically using desktop view ? [20:19] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] jmonter: there is one person that i know of on here that has installed PAM on slackware. Straterra. He's not here though. Is there a SBo for it? [20:19] fire|bird: when you use lynx do you have the problem? ;) [20:19] deco: what exactly do you mean by not make the widgets get close to each other? desktop view is a widget in itself. [20:20] agentc0re|work: lol, haven't tried that. :P [20:20] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] nope [20:20] fire|bird: i mean all the widges like folder view and notes try to get close to each other on the desktop [20:20] widgets* [20:21] align better word for it [20:21] they're just in widget-love ;) [20:21] :P [20:21] deco: Hmm, haven't experienced that, but you could get them how you want, right click the panel at the bottom (with the clock and all) and hit lock widgets. [20:22] fire|bird: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz is that the lib you have? [20:22] yup [20:22] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [20:22] I've also tried .22.87 as well [20:23] fire|bird: but then i can't move them :-( [20:23] jmonter: http://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/people/grzech/pam/ and a requirement list, depending on what you want to do with pam http://pastebin.com/m61b6a767 [20:23] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:24] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:24] frk (n=frk@189.58.215.235.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [20:24] fire|bird: it's like when you have icons align automaticly and you can't move them how you want [20:24] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [20:24] chopp: thx [20:25] deco: So, you just want the icons in desktop view to not get close? [20:25] fire|bird: yeah [20:25] deco: Oh, sorry man, I misunderstood before. In the desktop view, right click, go to Icons, and hit Lock In Place [20:25] jmonter: you're welcome. I did some modifications to those slackbuilds myself, but I'll leave that up to you [20:26] hey guys, I have some questions about slackwares hugesmp kernel configuration [20:26] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:26] fire|bird: oh np i also didn't explain my self well :-) [20:26] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:26] deco: :) [20:28] marvelsss (n=user@125.164.234.162) joined ##slackware. [20:28] Hugesmp which I'm using now works great, but I want to patch tuxonice support into to just to try it out. How would I go about preparing the source in /usr/src/linux to be exactly like hugesmp so then I can patch tuxonice and build it? [20:29] fire|bird: have you tried doing the 32bit compat flash? [20:29] agentc0re|work: you mean installing the 32bit compat libs and using 32bit flash? No, I haven't [20:30] fire|bird: thanks it worked :D [20:31] fire|bird: i'm sure you already know, but just in case. http://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/slamd64/slamd64-12.2/slamd64-FAQ/AdobeFlashPlayer.txt shows how to do it there. [20:31] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-169.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] deco: you're welcome [20:31] y0 MLanden [20:31] y0 fre|bird [20:31] y0 slackers...How's everyone? [20:31] agentc0re|work: yeah, you had give me that link the other day too, just hadn't tried it yet, was trying to figure out what's wrong with this so far. :P [20:32] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [20:33] s/fre|bird/fire|bird [20:33] Is anybody else on Slackware64 (without any 32 bit compat libs) and having issues with flash, from extra/ or otherwise? [20:34] chopp: do you know why it would failed "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check when I try to compile it myself? [20:34] kevin01123 (n=pooky1@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: [20:36] Uh, I'm looking at the 13.0 slackbuild for ffmpeg and it doesn't seem to include the ffmpeg-mksrctarball.sh file... [20:36] getting information on ssh attacks and wouldn't you know it ... damn you alienBOB! :) you're everywhere. [20:36] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackwares-favorite-automagic-ssh-protector-451437/ [20:36] jmonter: I'm going to guess no C++ compiler [20:36] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) joined ##slackware. [20:37] chopp: nope I do have C++ compiler [20:37] I'm not sure then [20:38] jmonter: What ae you trying to compile? [20:39] jmonter: gcc-g++? [20:39] MLanden: Linux-PAM and Enlightenment entrace [20:40] chopp: yes gcc-4.3.3 & gcc-g++-4.3.3 [20:41] dunno then [20:42] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:43] jmonter: which flags are you using when you compile? [20:44] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] CFLAG="-03 -march=i486 -mtune=i686" ./configure --prefix=/usr --build=i486-slackware-linux [20:47] Pumpkins1979 (n=echo@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [20:47] re [20:47] Quiznos: y0 [20:47] jmonter: what slackware version? [20:47] pbs Nova, re Mars, aspargus can grow on Mars, pH ~= 8.3 [20:47] hey MLanden [20:48] MLanden reinstaled 12.2/x; x starts but w/o wm. [20:48] hmmmm..Martian asparagus..:D [20:48] XGizzmo_: 13 [20:48] Quiznos: any warning in the logs? [20:48] 13 is becoming a disappointment; and mc has bug and features [20:49] info that doesnt help solve [20:49] jmonter: 64bit or 32? [20:49] 32bit [20:49] i'm done with 13.x [20:49] 13/x [20:49] Pumpkins1979 (n=echo@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:50] jmonter: have you installed any of d series and not rebooted? [20:50] in mc, fields arent cleared upon entering text at ^ [20:50] Quiznos: care to refresh our memory how you went about upgrading? [20:50] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:50] jmonter: stumped here...guessin' maybe something to do with static flags..but could be wrong..good luck [20:50] MLanden: thx [20:51] XGizzmo_: nope [20:51] chopp downgrade to 12.2/x, installed from my Archive/ [20:51] XGizzmo_: I been compiling other software all day without a problem. [20:52] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [20:53] Nick change: TkTech -> tyler [20:53] Quiznos: did you follow the upgrade instruction for 13 ? [20:53] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:53] Nick change: tyler -> Guest54071 [20:54] yes [20:55] Nick change: Guest54071 -> Tktech [20:56] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.42.75) joined ##slackware. [20:56] jmonter: you have the kernel headers installed? [20:56] Quiznos: you upgraded to 13.0, downgraded to 12.2, then upgraded again to 13.0? [20:56] XGizzmo_: Yes [20:57] Doing a reboot just incase [20:57] doing a format just in case [20:57] jmonter: can you pastebin the config.log file somewhere> [20:58] XGizzmo_ how do I pastebin [20:58] jmonter: google pastebin [20:58] chopp see that i only say that i downgraded x/, gotta downgrade xap/ too; all else is 13/ [20:58] just pastebin.com [20:58] is all you need [20:58] its so simpole and easy to understand [20:59] http://slackware.pastebin.com/ :) [20:59] cool. [20:59] http://test34.pastebin.com/ [21:00] Quiznos: well someone else can maybe help. That's just a tad much for my ability. [21:00] paypal $10 and you can have your own too [21:00] chopp ty [21:01] Quiznos: are there any conflicts that you noticed in the logs? [21:02] okay guys whats the System.map.gz file for when your building a kernel? [21:02] marvelsss (n=user@125.164.234.162) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:02] MLanden with 12.2/x, unfound `fixed' font; and i cant find it either. [21:02] I figured out what the config file is and how to use it [21:02] MLanden 12.2/x starts without wm. [21:02] ron1n oops msgs in syslog [21:02] XGizzmo_:http://slackware.pastebin.com/m12466895 [21:03] ron1n if yo uenable it in menuconfig [21:03] does the hugesmp config file have it enabled? [21:03] duno; see the config file [21:03] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@207.233.110.67) joined ##slackware. [21:04] alright, thanks [21:04] Chakravanti (n=chunk@67.236.82.46) joined ##slackware. [21:04] yw [21:04] hold everything Rush (band) on radio [21:04] evertyhing stops [21:04] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [21:05] Quiznos: Which song by Rush? [21:06] duno, i heard words "tom sawyer" [21:06] there ya go..:D [21:07] ah [21:07] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: [21:08] my ears still ring from rush being cranked up for years [21:08] jmonter: you are sure gcc-4.3.3-i486-3.txz is installed? [21:08] yep [21:08] ok song done [21:08] [ installed ] - gcc-4.3.3-i486-3 [ installed ] - gcc-g++-4.3.3-i486-3 [21:09] Thurin1 (i=root@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:09] okay so I know I need System.map.gz because its in slackware/kernels/hugesmp.s/. Now I need to know what to do with it. [21:09] phoenix^ (n=opera@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:09] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-4-154.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:09] Thurin1 (i=root@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [21:09] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest35987 [21:09] ron1n user usually does nothing with it; kernel might use it. [21:10] jmonter: ls -l /usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.3.3/include-fixed/limits.h [21:10] show me the output of that. [21:10] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-4-154.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:10] Quiznos: okay, so where do I put it? [21:10] /boot [21:10] next to kernel and config [21:10] Nick change: Guest35987 -> phoenix^ [21:11] but it's optional if not used [21:11] so its for use after I compile the kernel [21:11] reminds me the first time I saw a photo of Burke Shelley from the welsh band Budgie..how eeriely similar he favors Geddy Lee [21:11] actually, even if kernel needs; if not present then kernel wont print extended info [21:12] XGizzmo_: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3470 2009-05-04 19:42 /usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.3.3/include-fixed/limits.h [21:12] hmm [21:14] Quiznos: with the error with the missing fixed font, any errors with ncurses or python apps? [21:14] wait, so if everything from slackware/kernels/hugesmp.s/ is in /boot than all I should have to do is make menuconfig and then I'm staring at the hugesmp configuration? [21:14] i dont normally run pyapps; pkgtool starts and exits fine [21:14] any other ncurse app you can name that i can try? [21:15] nothing from mc (such as it is) [21:15] ron1n that would be with `make oldconfig' to start from a existing config [21:16] Alright awesome. Getting closer [21:16] Quiznos: you have cmus installed? [21:17] is "cmus" a +x? [21:17] whta's the callable name? [21:17] so then if I apply the tuxonice patches to the source in my /usr/src/linux directory and then make oldconfig I will essentially have hugesmp + tuxonice? [21:17] yes [21:17] Excellent, thanks so much [21:17] I'm off [21:18] dont leave [21:18] no no [21:18] okaytt [21:18] still here [21:18] ok [21:18] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] you're gonna have other questions [21:18] I'm sure I am, thats why I'm doing this in a VM =] [21:18] go off and play :) [21:18] but stay online [21:18] heh [21:18] will do, thanks again [21:18] yw [21:18] hi, what would happen if i installed slack 13 over all my slack 12.2 partitions except for /home? [21:19] with `installpkg', nothing bad should hap [21:19] jmonter: what program is this from? [21:19] only / and /usr are affected by installpkg [21:19] Quiznos: console ncurses mp3 player [21:19] ok [21:19] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/library/ [21:20] MLanden it's in ap/? [21:20] what about an install from the dvd Quiznos ? [21:20] what version? [21:20] blkdg if /home is separate partition, and / and /usr are one or two partitions, then you're still golden [21:20] Quiznos: give me a sec...been a while since 12.1 since I messed with it [21:20] jut be absolutely sure you know what paths are on what partition [21:20] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:21] strange, my new virtualbox from slackbuilds doesn't have usb. I thought Sun had enabled usb in all versions? maybe not [21:21] the last few versions i've done /, /boot, /home and /swap [21:21] it's not necesa to separate boot [21:21] /usr /home /var are my usuals [21:21] oops [21:21] / /usr /home /var are my usuals [21:22] but [21:22] briareus: no usb in the open source edition sadly =/ [21:22] btw when i df -h and i see tmpfs mounted on /dev/shm is that /swap ? [21:22] / and /usr should be one partition bc all distros install new to there only [21:22] no [21:22] ron1n: hmm, I had it in slackware 12.1, I msut have got that version somewhere outside of slackware/slackbuilds [21:22] swap has its own format [21:22] briareus: the binary from Virtualbox.org however has it [21:23] then what's tmpfs ? [21:23] ron1n: that must be what I had [21:23] for tmpfs read kernel Doc*/fs [21:23] briareus: most likely [21:23] ron1n: bummer, because I use the usb feature heavily [21:23] XGizzmo_: okay I think i got it, I reinstall glibc-2.9 [21:23] I suppose I'm getting the binary [21:23] k [21:23] ron1n: thanks for clearing that up. I don't remember getting the binary, but I must have. [21:23] XGizzmo_: now I can configure, lets see if i can make [21:23] blkdg learn mc to get more viual info [21:23] briareus: no problem [21:24] midnight commander? [21:24] yes [21:24] XGizzmo_: I can't really understand why I would have to reinstall glibc [21:25] something got messed up somewhere [21:25] XGizzmo_: its compiled, go figure [21:25] Quiznos: never mind...older ap...only in the slacky repository in (12.0 and 12.1) [21:25] ok ty anyway [21:25] ok. thanks again. [21:25] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] yw blk [21:26] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-241-129-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:26] I just got a call from a lady friend and it went like this "hey...you know that thingy that you have on your keychain and you stick in and then you can take things to other places and print them? what is that?" [21:26] lol kool [21:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:27] you have a thing on a keychain? now that's convenient! [21:27] haha [21:27] lol [21:27] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Fuck off with your Star Trek ideas" [21:27] lol...detatchable [21:27] [ in bed ] [21:28] well Thanks for all the help. :O) [21:28] nothing like those wonderful technical terms like thingy, dohicky, thingamajig, whatchamacallit, etc. :P [21:28] howdy BP{k} [21:28] antiwire: baahaa [21:28] lol [21:28] MLanden even tho separate, menuconfig is w/o error [21:30] antiwire: that reminds me of that one time in the place with that guy who had the thing [21:30] does it matter what she calls it, if it leads to sticking something else in? [21:30] [ in bed ] [21:30] haha [21:30] Quiznos: hmm...something's must be off on the paths then [21:30] phoenix^: howdy, how goes? [21:30] MLanden how di i exist from mcabber? [21:31] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Nick change: omni_food -> omnipotentduo [21:31] BP{k}: excellent, thanks. Just working on a nagging 64 bit flash issue, so I'm going to give alienBOB's multilib stuff a try and hope that helps. [21:31] Quiznos: what? [21:31] and then try a 32 bit flash version [21:31] got it; mcabber, a jabber console app; /quit [21:32] a ncurses app i think [21:32] no errors reported [21:32] is there anyway I can make menu old config? [21:32] jmonter (i=3fc7dba2@gateway/web/freenode/x-lrhwicqdwmhzdmwg) left ##slackware. [21:33] MrException (n=rob@d209-121-14-88.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:33] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:33] it's make oldconfig [21:33] I installed flash 64-bit and it works fine [21:34] juice2 (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "bbl" [21:34] bakednoodle: really? Mine crashes everything. what method did you use to install? [21:34] installed from Adobe site, I googled 64-bit flash linux [21:35] and you ran their installer or what? [21:35] I'm curious because mine has given me nothing but trouble [21:35] didn't come with installer [21:35] Quiznos: well,ncurses might not be it...what about locale,any errors? [21:35] ron1n you start menuconfig then Load your desired config [21:35] you just put the .so file in mozilla's plugins directory? (usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/) [21:36] MLanden en utf8 [21:36] copied to /usr/lib64/firefox/plugins [21:36] i see hebrew and russian in bx [21:36] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:36] bakednoodle: Hmm, mine is in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins [21:37] just recently installed slack 13.0 64-bit [21:37] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:37] Quiznos: I see [21:37] bakednoodle: Could you test a site for me in firefox? www.myspace.com/breakingbenjamin and let me know if that crashes FF? [21:37] MLanden locale reports good info [21:38] I would, I'm not at home right now, school :) [21:38] bakednoodle: Ah, ok. Thanks. :) [21:38] Quiznos: cool...i'm stumped..good luck on solution [21:38] kk [21:38] http://thevideobay.org/play/1762/More+Cowbell+Original+Skit+-+Saturday+Night+Live/ [21:39] Anybody else here with slackware64 (no compat libs) that could test the above web site I posted and see if FF crashes? [21:39] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [21:39] Don't Fear The Reaper...\m/ :D \m/ [21:39] ron1n: I'm not sure what your goal is or what you've got going on but this might help: http://pastebin.com/m189bff92 [21:40] phoenix^: not crashing my browser [21:40] Hmm, well what the worlds wrong with mine then. [21:40] why do i get permission denied when i ./configure as root? [21:40] omnipotentduo: How did you install 64 bit flash? [21:40] no +x's? [21:40] ah [21:41] yes doh =) ty [21:41] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:41] heh yw [21:41] antiwire: I'm just trying to add some out of kernel things to hugesmp and compile/install the slackware way [21:41] phoenix i went and got the flash driver, then put it in /lib64/mozilla/ [21:41] Chakravanti `sh -c ...' always runs script [21:41] lib64/mozilla/addons(or is it plugins) [21:41] its plugins [21:41] and restarted FF [21:41] omnipotentduo: ok, thank you. [21:42] ron1n: The method I posted will allow you to make any changes you want and still maintain the stock kernel and modules without any chance of jacking them up. You can fall back using that method. [21:42] hmm it seems gens might just be a lost cause >.> [21:42] why? [21:42] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: [21:42] bash: ./configure: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory [21:43] what url to pkg? [21:43] it's not a package [21:43] ftp prefereed [21:43] o [21:43] what then? [21:43] Chakravanti: Are you the person who installed everything that was in testing/, including the bash? [21:43] i'm compiling from source [21:43] wait, it has crlf in it? [21:43] no [21:43] Chakravanti: ok [21:43] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-163-1.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:43] antiwire: That was omnipotentduo iirc. [21:43] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:44] Chakravanti undos ./configure and retry [21:44] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/freenode/x-uipdflqszoradxqn) joined ##slackware. [21:44] was me ONCE [21:44] huh? [21:44] are ther dos eol's in that configure? [21:44] lol [21:44] hmm...probably [21:45] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [21:45] undos file1 [21:45] it's a sega genesis emulator [21:45] k [21:45] undos command not found [21:45] mv file1 file [21:45] fromdos [21:45] two pipes needed [21:45] < > [21:46] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:46] i'm lost [21:46] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:46] generator crashes on every game i try to load [21:46] are you trying to install Gens the Genesis emulator? [21:46] your pipes are bent, here have some straight ones || [21:46] so i was trying to compile gens [21:46] has anyone had problems using wicd with 13.0? [21:46] bakednoodle, yes [21:46] MLanden there's a "we play it all" radio station down here; i sent email to request music from the Sting; they never played it; they dont "play it all" [21:46] anyone use slackins [21:47] wazit slackins? [21:47] pi31415 (n=ben@98.246.78.78) joined ##slackware. [21:47] Quiznos: guess no truth in advertising..lol [21:47] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/freenode/x-uipdflqszoradxqn) left ##slackware. [21:47] nods [21:47] gui package manager in slackware [21:47] Chakravanti watcha doin? [21:47] ty [21:48] starign at the screen very confuddled like [21:48] lol; ok let's do this; did yo from dos configure? [21:48] rather, does anyone know why wicd can see networks yet when I try to connect to them it fails due to not being able to find an ip adress [21:48] fromdos [21:48] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [21:48] your <> and two files is confusing me [21:49] fromdos conf1; mv conf1 configure [21:49] ./configure --help [21:49] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [21:50] ugh permission denied again?i chmod +x configure [21:50] ok [21:50] but if i do it again im guessing it'll undo what you just had me do [21:50] nop [21:50] chmod doesnt affect content [21:51] configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub [21:51] is there a config.sub? [21:51] this program really doesn' [21:52] like slackware lol [21:52] dont go there [21:52] is there a config.sub? [21:52] run autoreconf [21:52] yes [21:52] ok [21:52] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242381511.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: [21:52] i dont care for autoconf tools myself [21:52] ah [21:53] ran? [21:53] yes [21:53] ./co* again [21:53] same [21:53] no sub file? [21:53] cant run sub file? [21:53] x config.sub [21:53] can';t run sub file [21:54] ah hmm [21:54] same [21:54] fromdos sub1; mv sub1 config.sub [21:55] musta been preped on a dos box [21:55] or by lame maintainer [21:55] or with bad umask [21:56] http://www.pastebin.org/14083 [21:56] Srbo (n=Srbo@84.58.192.159) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:56] i signed it [21:56] yeah bad maintainer [21:56] i think it's gcc [21:56] what command not found? [21:56] 'gcc 3.3 won't compile' [21:56] from the readme [21:56] how big tarball? [21:57] okay [21:57] you can smack me [21:57] no no [21:57] gens win32 src? [21:57] we'll just suspend you rgeek card :) [21:58] so who want's to join the church of the sub-genius? [21:58] but it contained gens for linux [21:58] ok [21:58] how big is tarball? [21:58] 2.9mb [21:58] dcc it to me? [21:58] omnipotentduo: how do you join? [21:58] dcc? [21:58] dunno [21:58] tar.beze [21:58] ./dcc send Quiznos file [21:59] ah [21:59] pi31415: do you know of the church of slack? [21:59] one thing that concerns me is that the X-day writings seem almost pornographic [21:59] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-192-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] pi31415: its one big joke dude [22:00] hold crack attempt now... vsftpd [22:00] pi31415: Start of the Holy Month of "Ramalamadingdong" is today [22:01] ? [22:01] okay my new kernel isn't booting. Posting a screenshot of my vm now. [22:01] omnipotentduo: someone else told me that recently and it seemed funny [22:02] why would you be concerned about pornographic writings? [22:02] pi31415: it doesnt seem funny, it is funny [22:02] agris (n=agris@pasts.blondais.lv) joined ##slackware. [22:02] wth did the cracker delete the vsftpd logfile? [22:02] how the hell [22:03] that's hapd four times now [22:03] kinda like muses scratched on the bathroon stalls..:D [22:03] i'm thinking there's a bug in vsftpd [22:03] omnipotentduo: then I looked at the subgenius web page on wikipedia and followed a link to GWAR [22:03] omnipotentdui: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gwar-02.jpg [22:03] or a secret backdoor [22:03] nothing like butt straps and decapitation in the same shot [22:03] Chakravanti stop using ports <1024 :) [22:03] okay I am getting the error Kernel panic - not syncing: VFSL Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(8,2) [22:04] BP{k} because they are disgusting, so I would prefer to avoid them [22:04] in irc? [22:04] pi31415: that's gwar what do you expect? [22:04] i'm on 6667 [22:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.141) joined ##slackware. [22:04] log messages is empty too [22:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:04] Chakravanti dcc to a privileged port [22:04] trrey [22:04] retry [22:04] hm [22:05] i can establish outgoing connection but i can never get incoming connections [22:05] on anything [22:05] torretns, games, etc. [22:05] omnipotentduo: i expected the church of the subgenius to be more quirky, like tabloids and conspiracy theories, not creepy like hellraiser pinhead demon/zombie porn [22:05] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] holy fk; vsftpd has a vuln; it can empty logfiles [22:05] zombie porn ftw! [22:05] Chakravanti check your itpables rules for munging [22:05] be a pastafarian..:D [22:06] iptables arent segt [22:06] all my logs are empty [22:06] it'd be on my router [22:06] BP{k}++ [22:06] k [22:06] MLanden: yeah but don't you need to decide on the sauce first? ;) [22:06] cuba33ci_ (i=cuba33ci@118-160-174-71.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] pi31415: that's part of the joke, the church wonders if it is even a joke [22:06] ok; vsftpd is going to ripped out. [22:06] scheduled to be [22:06] fk [22:06] BP{k}: true...;_; [22:06] Chakravanti brb 1m [22:07] Quiznos: ... why not just sftp through ssh? you don't need anything other than ssh.. [22:07] same i need a smoke and a fesh beer [22:08] hm, I now wonder if someone ever asks if I am religious I should asnwer: "I am pastafarian of the tomato, meatballs and basil branch. [22:08] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@84.58.192.159) joined ##slackware. [22:08] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:08] is extended 4 backwards compatible? [22:09] BP{k}: lol [22:09] can i mount a dmg image on linux [22:09] ? [22:09] Quiznos: the best advice I can give you is this: you better be DAMNED sure that vsftpd has a problem, or else you're going to have your balls roasted and stuffed up your ass. [22:10] there's probably some dmg2iso script [22:10] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:10] mm [22:10] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:11] roasted raisins? [22:11] Quiznos: out of morbid curiousity ..vsftpd version and slackware-version? [22:11] Action: BP{k} composes the ##slackware christmas hit "roasted testicles over an open thermite fire" [22:12] BP{k} heh slack hybrid atm :) vsftpd 2.0.5 [22:12] haha [22:12] hahaha [22:12] rworkman must you be so ...? [22:12] rood? [22:12] there is no need for that kind of visual [22:13] BP{k}: Will that be on ##slackware's greatest Christmas hits Volume #13? [22:13] i prefer the more cannibalistic version, "humans roasting on an open fire/ hot sauce dripping from their toes/ Red hot tots and thieir skin is all a glow" you get the idea [22:13] no kidding, and any possible vulnerability should be investigated shouldn't it? [22:13] lol....reminds me of the parrot who name was Chester who was burned down under..:D [22:13] go ahead laf; lafing is good. [22:13] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-160-9.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:13] phoenix^: of course ;) [22:13] Quiznos: hybrid of? [22:13] omnipotentduo: you ARE demonic [22:13] 13, 12.2 [22:13] denial simply relegates things to the 'black' zone (...market, hats....etc.) [22:13] 12.2/x only [22:14] Quiznos: Yes, I must. Chris Evans (vsftpd author) knows what he's doing, and he has an excellent security reputation. That coupled with the fact that nobody else has experienced anything even remotely similar leads me to this: PEBKAC unless proven otherwise. :) [22:14] vsftpd rocks [22:14] i just want to play star flight... [22:14] Quiznos: how the hell is that possible. 12.2 shipped with vsftp 2.0.7 [22:14] lol [22:15] rworkman i'm fairly well aware of my sys and it's interoperation of parts; tcpwrappers works well; but var/log files are continually emptied after some cracker has attempted to LOGIN. [22:15] i never beat it.. [22:15] root is denied remote login [22:15] BP{k} duno [22:15] If you say so :) [22:15] "don't know" seems to be the MO here. [22:16] rworkman vsftpd says that etc/vsftpd.banned_emails is a ip/line of IP's denied access [22:16] rworkman so that works; but my logfiles are empty now. [22:16] i'm pissed. [22:16] so it is impossible to install my webcam on slackware [22:16] right [22:16] are either of those questions? [22:16] Masterx831, what webcam? [22:16] nothing is impossible in linux, its just a lack of know how [22:16] thrice` and fire|bird : i'm uploading my [no warranty] 4.3.1 x86_64 builds to http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/ , since you two seemed interested yesterday [22:17] Masterx831: what makes you think that? [22:17] Bus 002 Device 002: ID 041e:4034 Creative Technology, Ltd WebCam Instant [22:17] vbatts: excellent, thank you very much. [22:17] he was told lastnight what he needed to do [22:17] vbatts: awesome :) [22:17] danc3: 3 of the people couldnt do it [22:17] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:17] Oh! Well, then. It must be impossible. [22:17] omnipotentduo, do you know how to use .asoundrc magic to make one sound card the default playbakc device and another the default recording device? [22:17] They will be installed here once I get this darn 64 bit flash issue figured out. :/ It's been nagging me for a few days now [22:18] I think I'm going to have to recompile qt to get arora to work properly :( [22:18] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [22:18] ok just remembered that i have syslog redir to another dir also [22:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [22:18] phoenix, I will try to help when I get home [22:18] Action: omnipotentduo is not truly a great knowledge base as of now, he CAN however look up docs on it. [22:18] Chakravanti lets continue [22:18] Chakravanti you got ftpd running @you? [22:19] Quiznos, plz no, this is giving me a headache, i really do give up i'm gonna try a different sega emulator [22:19] ok [22:19] Chakravanti: any ideas? Bus 002 Device 002: ID 041e:4034 Creative Technology, Ltd WebCam Instant [22:19] gime the pkg [22:19] bakednoodle: ok, thank you. [22:19] email? [22:19] Masterx831: google it [22:19] by the time we figure it out i'll be too drunk too do anythign with it [22:19] email it to me [22:19] lets see if i can get a url? [22:19] ok [22:19] Masterx831: did you try this http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html [22:20] Chakravanti or tell me the pkgname, ill find it [22:20] omnipotentduo: I seen it but i thought it was fake [22:20] it's not a package [22:20] it's just source [22:20] http://gens.consolemul.com/download/gens-win32-src-2.14.zip [22:20] ok [22:20] sorry it's http =( [22:21] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [22:21] i'm gonna be in your shoes pretty soon [22:21] Masterx831: you thought it was a "fake"??? LOL [22:21] I stil don't understand why Pat shipped qt 4.5.1 instead of 4.5.2 O.o [22:21] i'm setting up an old box with slackware once the RAM comes in [22:21] not gonna use x [22:21] Chakravanti i'll see if i can make a binpkg for ya [22:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [22:21] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:21] danc3: I guess its not let me try it [22:22] Quiznos, oh, i would love you! [22:22] Chakravanti no-x in game? [22:22] ty :) [22:22] I've made a binary for Gens before had it setup for a HTPC running Freevo [22:22] idk maybe i'll use x, but i'm gonna keep the system as minimalistic as possible [22:22] it's an old eMachine 400i3 [22:22] i got for free [22:23] and $24 for two sticks of 128 PC100 [22:23] rworkman before i adjusted syslogd.conf to use diff dir, vsftpd use was suspected as allowing logfile access and logfile emptying in previous crack attempts [22:23] Chakravanti: flux? openbox? [22:23] so i'm gonna use slackware and strip it of most componants [22:23] i was thinking awesome [22:23] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: "Saindo" [22:23] Chakravanti: good pick [22:24] someone here mentioned it and i've been curious [22:24] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-192-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:24] Chakravanti you want GTK (reccomended but not a requirement) [22:24] it's supposed to be kind to one's resources [22:24] yes [22:24] yes to me? [22:24] I <3 GTk [22:24] k [22:24] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.34.45.218) joined ##slackware. [22:24] here's a link of someone who love the minimalism http://kmandla.wordpress.com/ might be of some good reading [22:25] cuz i'll be running zsnes [22:25] and any other emulator i can get on the box [22:25] maybe get a joystick and play rebel assult [22:25] Chakravanti yea the config* file perms are munged; a winbox doesnt have them [22:25] Action: Chakravanti loves old video games [22:25] Action: Chakravanti thinks new age graphix sucks [22:26] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.34.45.218) left irc: Client Quit [22:26] Chakravanti if you used mc, you'd know what files were +x visually. [22:26] hmm [22:26] talkin' 'bout old video games....heard of Dingoo when I was lookin' at the GP32x's [22:26] Action: Chakravanti googles mv [22:26] mc [22:26] s/mv/mc [22:26] mc? dood [22:26] lol [22:26] midnight commander [22:26] Chakravanti I think I can help you later [22:26] use ls [22:27] Action: Chakravanti is a little drunk, hasn't drank in over a month [22:27] ls is too slow copared to visuality of data recognition [22:27] Chakravanti: drink mooaar [22:27] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:27] Chakravanti enjoy. [22:27] bakednoodle any genesis emulator would be awesome [22:27] antiwire, excellent suggestion! [22:27] Chakravanti: any particular genesis game? [22:27] Quiznos, will do! ty! [22:27] Starflight [22:28] the phantasy star series [22:28] sweet [22:28] pi31415, that too, i never got a chance to play those but i keep hearing so much about them [22:28] the nes and supernes were the king of the rpg market before the playstation took over [22:29] these days they are making lots and lots of rpgs for the nintendo ds [22:29] pi31415, what? PS didn't change a thing! [22:29] another bug in 13's mc [22:29] only thing PS had to offer was LLSC [22:29] this is fkd up [22:29] chalravanti: the ps and ps2 have more rpgs than all of the other consoles combined [22:29] s/LLSC/LSSC [22:29] Chakravanti you were correct on a file losing +x [22:29] pi31415, so? they all suck! [22:29] Quiznos, it's windows emulator that was adapted to linux [22:30] windows based* [22:30] ok [22:30] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:30] final fantasy 7-12, you did not like any of them? [22:30] Chakravanti you want usr or usr/local for install path? [22:30] chrono trigger [22:30] chrono cross [22:30] suikoden [22:30] usr [22:30] k [22:30] dngr (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:30] i never played CC, can't say on that one way or the other [22:30] you think mc is faster than using ls? [22:31] I'm speechless [22:31] -_- [22:31] antiwire for visual assessment of data presented, yes. [22:31] VISUAL [22:31] but the predecessor is the only thing that was close to FFIII (the penultimate RPG ever) [22:31] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "test34" [22:31] dngr (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [22:31] Chakravanti you want any other speshul paths used? [22:31] nah idc [22:31] k [22:31] do you mean final fantasy 6? [22:31] yes [22:31] that exists for the playstation [22:31] Action: jeev needs a windows alternative to AIM, not trillian or pidgin [22:31] i'm not japanese >.> [22:32] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:32] yes, PS1 was a great console, but the snes is the home console to the greatest game ever [22:32] Action: NyteOwl prefered rpg with real peopel - D&D :> [22:32] Quiznos: Sorry, until/unless you prove that it's vsftpd, you're simply wrong. [22:32] PS1 recognized that FACT and ported those games to PSX [22:33] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:33] rworkman, actually, from your perspective it's a matter of probability because you can not know with absolute cetrtainty, given the knowledge you DO have, you're odds are close enough to certainty but not absolute [22:33] rworkman you may say until; but you may not say "wrong"; the latter does not proceed from the former. [22:34] baldur's gate 1 and 2, and champions of norrath 1 and 2 were fun on the ps2 [22:34] that's an invalid conclusion. [22:34] sorry rworkman but i'm a logic nut, nothign personal [22:34] rworkman evidence is being collected [22:34] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:34] rworkman take the report (with salt if you wish) as a warning. [22:35] probability: salt [22:35] Chakravanti: given the knowledge that you two have relative to my experience and such in dealing with these matters, I think you're just a nut. [22:35] let bugtraq sort it out [22:35] No, bugtraq doesn't even need to see this. [22:35] rworkman pls also dont be so invested in protecting the author. he's not convicted yet; i do want more evidence [22:35] It's fucking wild speculation. [22:35] rworkman, you'de be correct there without any of that, i am certifiable [22:35] rworkman no, it's suspicious! [22:36] csaunders (n=christop@ip216-239-66-230.vif.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] rworkman pls calm down, this is not against you! [22:36] dont be so invested. [22:36] I'm calm. [22:36] ok [22:36] I'm not invested. [22:36] hello, I'm having a problem using slackpkg [22:36] Action: Chakravanti is Bipolar I, Asperger's, insomniac, (and doG knows what else) [22:36] you are. [22:36] lysdexic? [22:36] yeah [22:36] Dude. This is like saying "opensshd is wiping my log files." [22:37] What happened with vsftp? [22:37] mostly it's just typos..but sometimes it's the dyslexia coming out, depends on level of focus and oncentration [22:37] thats only a statement. without evidence it remains so. [22:37] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [22:37] although macha, that one was on purpose [22:37] Quiznos: That's my point. Without evidence, that statement should not be made. [22:37] and *you* are the one who said vsftpd is wiping your log files. [22:37] rakhel (n=root@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:38] when I perform slackpkg update I get an error stating that I am unable to to do something like 'cp - cannot stat /tmp.../CHECKSUM.md5 no such file or directory' [22:38] rworkman, you could correct the logic of his statement instead of making a personal attack, in that, he should have said he *believes* vsftpd is responsible [22:38] csaunders: what slackpkg version? [22:38] rworkman wrong; statements can be made with or without evidence; in my case, the statement was made with evidece linking file emptying with vsftpd. [22:39] rworkman btw, i suspected in.telnetd but in the most recent crack attempt, there is NO syslog entry regarding telnet by tcpwrappers. [22:39] Quiznos, and that futher, communicable and repoducable evidence is being investigated and generated? [22:39] yes [22:39] syslogd is writing to another dir [22:39] You know what? Nevermind. Please report it to every mailing list you can find. Use a pseudonym though unless you want your real name to be forever tarnished. [22:39] i am a ghost of a sammich man. no one knows me. [22:39] heh [22:40] csaunders: keep it in the channel. What Slackware version with slackpkg-2.70.4? [22:40] geez, you'de think this chris dude is his butt buddy or something [22:40] whois Quiznos [22:40] oozable. [22:40] Chakravanti: yes, you love logic, I see. [22:40] rworkman: I'm using slackware 13.0 with slackpkg-2.70.4 [22:40] csaunders: then you're not using slackware 13.0. [22:40] rworkman if you havent noticed I too am a student of logic. [22:40] rworkman, oh, hey, you laid the ground for personal attacks! [22:40] i hate confusion. [22:40] but i didnt attack; ad hom is NOT my style. [22:41] he's probably using slackware-current and wanted to upgrade to 13.0 :) [22:41] Chakravanti: whatever. [22:41] pff [22:41] and since Quiznos is helping me get starflight working (regardless if he succeeds) i'd go down in flames with him [22:41] resign already rworkman [22:41] I'm pretty confused. My stock kernel boots fine but the one I built using the stock kernel config doesn't? [22:41] I am having problems with WICD finding channels after an update.I am using slack 12.2 on an eeepc900hd [22:41] lol [22:41] and error appeared just after slackpkg was updated, didn't it, csaunders? [22:41] Chakravanti careful; i descned quickly :) [22:41] networks rather [22:41] phoenix like too [22:41] ron1n: How does it stop booting? [22:41] agris: yes [22:41] I'm no stranger to hate Quiznos, I'm a juggalo [22:42] antiwire: Kernel panic, not syncing VFS [22:42] Well, that's what I get for trying to help someone. [22:42] just update /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and restart slackpg upgrade [22:42] Action: Urchlay adjusts rabbit ear antenna and tunes in ##slackware [22:42] ron1n: Are your root FS and disk controller drivers y or m? [22:42] y0 Urchlay [22:42] MLanden [22:42] Chakravanti juggalo? [22:42] csaunders: sounds like slackpkg... yeah, what agris said. [22:42] urchlay [22:42] Wilblake (n=Wilblake@unaffiliated/wilblake) joined ##slackware. [22:42] cross between a gigolo and a buffalo? [22:42] lol [22:43] antiwire: nope they are /dev/sda and thats the only hard disk [22:43] Quiznos [22:43] basically [22:43] rakhel, is this a new problem? [22:43] agris: I've modified the mirrors a few times and I keep getting the same problem :( [22:43] et al [22:43] hey nyRednek [22:43] yes [22:43] here let me google that for you... [22:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:43] it is new [22:43] nah [22:43] Wilblake (n=Wilblake@unaffiliated/wilblake) left ##slackware. [22:43] ok back to pkg [22:43] ron1n: no, are the drivers y or m? [22:43] let me reproduce the error once again so I can elaborate on the error. [22:43] lol [22:43] Urchlay, it means he is an ICP fan [22:43] Urchlay: messed with any new music lately? [22:43] Quiznos, hey [22:43] MLanden: eh, learning a bunch of "new" songs (classic rock covers) [22:43] rakhel, when did you first discover it [22:44] it still feels weird to me that Billy Idol is considered "classic rock" though [22:44] antiwire: I don't believe so, I'm using the virtual sata controller in Virtual Boz [22:44] hear ya,Urchlay [22:44] ron1n: that's not a question that is answered with i don [22:44] White Wedding...>;D [22:44] 't believe so, it's answered "they are y" or "they are m" [22:44] just finished an update. went to get back online and my wicd found no wireless networks [22:44] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "test34" [22:44] csaunders: well, strange, was that compress package em... what was name, which was needed for new compression format of packages [22:44] MLanden: that, and Rebel Yell, going to be playing them at a show Friday [22:44] rworkman: btw, you do realise the output of pom(6) right? [22:44] is it installed? [22:45] rakhel, try init 1 then init 4? [22:45] about 10 minutes ago [22:45] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:45] 93% [22:45] nuff siad. [22:45] s/siad/said/ [22:45] sounds awesome,Urchlay...rock on,brudda [22:45] indeed [22:45] BP{k}: I love Linux, I keep finding out about cool stuff that's been there for ages [22:46] rakhel, iirc, the 900hd requires a special driver for slack 12.2...oh hell...i know the solution [22:46] antiwire: I'm not sure what my disk controller drivers are, but my root file system is ext4 on /dev/sda2 [22:46] Guest94163 (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [22:46] ron1n: ok one more time: are the drivers for your disk controller and filesystem set as Y in the kernel or are they modules? [22:46] .... [22:47] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:47] Urchlay: care much for Budgie? [22:47] antiwire: thats much more clear, thank you. They should be Y because I am using the hugesmp config and that kernel boots fine. [22:47] agris: give me a second... I'll throw the error up on pastie [22:47] they should be, are they? [22:48] antiwire: How would I find out? [22:48] ron1n: My original question wasn't bad either. In the context of kernels, Y or M should make sense. [22:48] csaunders: have you installed these packages which ends with tgz from a/ .. actually all packages from a/ which ends with tgz? [22:48] antiwire: I've just built my first kernel about an hour ago =] [22:48] ron1n: zgrep for them in /proc/config.gz [22:48] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [22:48] antiwire: okay [22:48] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:48] BP{k}: aha! [22:49] agris: when I was installing slackware I installed everything except the E KDE and Y(games?) packages [22:49] csaunders: there are new packages in a/ if you haven't updated -current for a while [22:49] MLanden: Budgie rocks! Though the only one of their songs I really know is "crash course in brain surgery" [22:50] csaunders: tried slackpkg install-new ? [22:50] Urchlay: hear ya...sorted through CDs right now and listen to them right now [22:51] if yes, then I don't know :) had not chance to meet your problem, csaunders :) [22:51] agris: 'slackpkg install-new => no NEW packages to install.' [22:51] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:52] antiwire: they are both Y [22:52] I had to man zgrep cause I never used it before, but I figured it out [22:52] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] ron1n: did you modify lilo.conf? [22:53] Urchlay: shame,they never really hit it big in the states [22:53] yes, and I'm pretty sure I did it right [22:53] I'll paste a copy on pastebin [22:54] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) joined ##slackware. [22:54] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@84.58.192.159) left irc: "Leaving" [22:54] Alright, beings I've had such issues with 64 bit flash, I've installed alienBOB's multilib packages and followed the howto he has. Now, to try a 32-bit flash, do I just need to make a compat 32-bit flash package, or do I need a 32-bit Firefox now too? [22:54] Chakravanti watch for `Gens:' msgs [22:54] if you'r around [22:54] k, i am [22:54] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:55] actaually no; i'll make macro for your nick [22:55] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] lol cool [22:55] "testing" [22:55] nop [22:55] csaunders: install slackpkg v 2.80 from -13.0/ap/ :) [22:55] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: "Leaving" [22:55] ron1n: what options did you change in the kernel? [22:55] there's v 2.80 not 2.70 you are using [22:55] "Chakravanti testing" [22:55] nop [22:55] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:55] antiwire: here is my lilo.conf http://pastebin.com/m1d046815 [22:55] Chakravanti testing [22:56] there. [22:56] and I added tuxonice [22:56] MLanden: listening to "homicidal suicidal"... it really sounds like a black sabbath B-side :) [22:56] =) [22:56] (note: I really like Sabbath, even their B-sides!) [22:56] I patched* tux on ice and compiled the new features in, Y [22:56] ron1n: what did you patch it for? [22:56] Chakravanti made adjusted file modes; undos files; new dir for all in zipfile for new tarball. [22:56] Urchlay: sweet.....google for an obscure band called Bang [22:57] k [22:57] ron1n, i suspect you don't have a new System.map for that new kernel, yes? [22:57] MLanden: "Bangs (often erroneously referred to as the Bangs) was a punk rock band from Olympia, Washington, formed in 1997 by guitarist Sarah Utter, " <--- that one? [22:57] The System.map is not going to cause a rootfs VFS sync issue. [22:58] mancha: one should have been made, I did use the hugesmp config (make oldconfig) so I out the one from /usr/src/linux after compile in /boot [22:58] ron1n, let me know. also zgrepping /proc/config.gz only makes sense if you are in the kernel you're working on [22:58] ron1n: I just realized that when I asked you to check proc for the config, you checked it while the stock kernel was running, right? [22:59] so you need some different advice [22:59] antiwire: correct [22:59] I'm 5 seconds behind mancha [22:59] I checked it while running hugesmp [22:59] make sure you have a kernel and a system map for the kernel. in /boot. and that they jive. [22:59] Urchlay: no...there was 'nother bad in the early 70s name Bang (never hit it big) ..http://hem.passagen.se/lillie/bang.html [22:59] then make sure your FS is in /usr/src/patched_kernel/.config [22:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:59] ron1n: grep the config of the new kernel for those options [23:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:00] Quiznos, you can cut out the win32 stuff...obviosuly [23:00] antiwire: I found the issue [23:00] # CONFIG_EXT4_FS is not set [23:01] that will do it [23:01] also check your disk controller driver too [23:01] okay [23:01] laters good people, sleepytime for me [23:01] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:01] ron1n: use y, not m unless you want to make an initrd [23:01] my goal was to use the hugesmp config, but I guess make oldconfig didn't do what I wanted it to [23:01] Urchlay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1gVk-7oh2I&feature=related [23:01] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [23:02] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:02] it should if you copied the .config over... [23:02] ron1n: did you copy the huge kernel's config from the source tree or get it from proc or did you just use the config left in /usr/src/linux ? [23:02] is there any real reason to use ext4 unless you have rediculous amounts of data? [23:02] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "test34" [23:02] source tree as in Slackware's sources [23:03] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [23:03] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:03] Chakravanti ok [23:03] Nick change: jigp_ -> jigp [23:03] antiwire: I used whatever config file make oldconfig would have used. I'm not sure what file that would have been, I was instructed to do so IIRC with the expectation it would load hugesmp's config [23:03] Quiznos, =) [23:03] the config left over in /usr/src/linux isn't the huge kernel's config [23:03] it uses whatever .config is in the dir your'e compiling in [23:03] you need to cp over the .config you want [23:03] I see, which would be vanilla [23:04] whatever than means, it's not the huge config [23:04] that* [23:04] cp /path/to/config_you_want/.config ./ [23:04] okay I gotcha. Thanks a lot guys! [23:04] MLanden: if you just played me the song without telling me the artist, I'd have said Sabbath [23:04] agris: I think that might have fixed things. Thanks for the help! [23:05] you can see all of the Slackware kernel configs in slackware-media-or-mirror/source/k/ [23:05] then makeoldconfig. then your colonel will have the same config as that where you pulled it from (unless there are new options in which case you'll be prompted) [23:05] Urchlay: lol....that's what I thought on an old compilation [23:05] mancha guess i'm not the only dyslexic around here eh? [23:06] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Client Quit [23:06] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:06] ron1n: My write up that I posted would have made you use proc which would have used the running config [23:06] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@123.120.152.230) joined ##slackware. [23:06] unless you're talking about a miliatary computer and i'm way out of context [23:06] that's why I posted it [23:06] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:06] I'm using slackware 13.0 now, and I want to know if I need to run slackpkg update from now on ? [23:07] ali0t4, why would slackware stop updating? [23:07] it's not like we've reached the epitome of computer technology/hardware/software [23:07] Chakravanti: I think 13.0 is stable, so ..... [23:08] ali0t4, check changelog file [23:08] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [23:08] Chakravanti undos's all relevent files to make; ./configure working now; GTK is req. [23:08] powtrix: thanks [23:08] http://www.slackware.com/changelog/ [23:08] GTK, check! [23:08] if any update comes then update [23:08] ali0t4, oh my bad, you meant atm [23:08] =P [23:09] Chakravanti: what is atm? [23:09] at the moment [23:09] ali0t4: you will need to run slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all when security or bug patches are posted for 13 [23:09] Chakravanti: .... :) [23:09] antiwire: yes, I know. [23:09] they why did you ask? [23:10] if you run slackpkg update right now it won't break anything but it also won't do anything [23:10] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Client Quit [23:10] sorry, i have a tendancy to tangent into superphilisphoical platititudes [23:10] antiwire: I dont want update weekly, maybe monthly. [23:10] lol [23:10] nonsense [23:10] pretty much [23:10] so run it when you feel like it then [23:10] supercilious platitudes [23:10] update by 13.1 [23:11] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:11] OK, thanks [23:11] Quiznos, but i like making up words! [23:11] he knows how to spell bananananana, but doesn't know when to stop? [23:11] me too [23:11] My favorite made up word (not myu own): noosphere [23:11] dios_mio (n=freelove@88.241.134.69) joined ##slackware. [23:12] I am using enlightenment 16 [23:12] superphilatelic plastictudes [23:12] okay..my etymology is pretty decent....but...what??? [23:12] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Client Quit [23:13] Chakravanti: "noosphere" is that region of the atmosphere where the air is 99% hype, right? [23:13] "philately" = stamp collecting [23:13] lmfao okay that's why idk that one [23:13] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:13] Urchlay: what's the other 1%?.....never mind...X_X [23:13] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [23:13] (at least, it does if my brain hasn't scrambled its dictionary hashtable again) [23:14] noosphere is a reference by ... shit ugh...(digs through library) [23:14] Chakravanti: some jackass who wrote for Wired, probably [23:14] Noosphere (pronounced /ÈnoŠ.usfjYr/; sometimes noösphere), according to the thought of Vladimir Vernadsky and Teilhard de Chardin, denotes the "sphere of human thought". The word is derived from the Greek ½¿æ (nous "mind") + ÃƱÖÁ± (sphaira "sphere"), in lexical analogy to "atmosphere" and "biosphere". [23:14] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [23:14] noosphere would mean "mind sphere" [23:15] Urchlay YOU'RE NOT SPOSED TO ESPALAIN A FUNI [23:15] heh [23:15] it's not a new word... [23:15] Urchlay 99% hype rofl [23:15] Urchlay Teilhard de Chardin, 1959 [23:15] nootropics have also been around for a while now too. [23:15] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [23:15] The Phenomenon of Man [23:15] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Client Quit [23:15] even 2600 did a write up on nootropics [23:15] you lag [23:16] antiwire, i like old books, shoot me [23:16] well if i have permission... [23:17] please do [23:17] so some smart guys in the 1950s invented the word... but I think the first time I ever saw it, was in the context of some silly article about the "global vilalge" and/or the "information superhighway", about a year before the dot-com crash [23:17] lol [23:17] Urchlay, it's rather applicable there as antiwire pointed out it's loose definition [23:17] so i'm trying to run opera 10 but i'm getting an error about libqt-mt.so.3 missing. presumably this is due to the move to qt4? [23:18] Chakravanti: if he shoots at you, block it with a thick old book (something by Dostoyevski maybe) [23:18] ubergoober (n=Unknow@rrcs-67-79-148-162.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:18] I have Mencken! [23:18] amazon10x: yah, but you should be able to install the qt3 compatibility packages from extra/ on the slackware CD [23:18] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:18] er, DVD, I suppose I should be saying [23:18] but tbh....idk if i'd dodge that bullet [23:19] Urchlay: okay. i think there's a version linked against qt4 from opera, so i'll check that first [23:19] amazon10x: probably a better idea, yah [23:19] I've got a build of opera-10 ready if one of the other lazy SBo admins will check it. :) [23:19] i'm not suicidal, based on a principle i have absolutely no logical reasonaing for. But i don't object to death itself. Hence the name, Soul Death [23:19] Note the order of "other" and "lazy" [23:20] Chakravanti: that's what your handle means, in Hindi or something? (chakra = soul?) [23:20] rworkman: links please [23:21] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:21] Fuck.. its 4:20am [23:21] good evening [23:21] night all [23:21] Quiznos, maybe we were wrong and he's just predisposed to making personal assualts on techies he has randomly configure personal gripes with? [23:21] night Zordrak [23:21] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest47329 [23:21] amazon10x: http://slackbuilds.org/opera.tar.gz [23:21] thanks [23:21] night Zordrak [23:21] fire|bird (n=opera@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: [23:21] Nick change: Guest47329 -> fire|bird [23:21] Zordrak, =( night, [23:22] I know this isn't the proper channel for this question but I seen suphp on SBo. I was wondering if anyone could clarify for me when I would want to use suphp [23:22] Maybe someone's ass is sideways and the left cheek is obscuring his vision. [23:22] Zordrak, puff puff pass? [23:22] rakhel, no i forget about our compaq, but i'll try to remember [23:22] ubergoober: probably mail the maintainer (Menno, iirc); he would know. [23:22] is it mainly for multiple site/domain hosting or would i want to use it with a server that only will ever have a single domain on it? [23:22] btw, guys, rakhel is my wife [23:22] rworkman, maybe, nature does cruel things. Azatoth, God of evolution...as it were [23:22] k [23:22] thanks [23:23] http://lesswrong.com/lw/kr/an_alien_god/ [23:23] nyRednek: you're brave ;-) [23:23] Urchlay, Chakra != soul [23:23] Hey nyRednek, how's it going? [23:23] rworkman: lol [23:23] rworkman, in what way? [23:23] fire|bird, doing remote support on home systems [23:23] Subjecting her to this place. There are rood people here. [23:24] ;-) [23:24] nyRednek: cool. I'm hunting down 64 bit flash issues. :) [23:24] Strykar, loosely, a better interpretation might be 'Wheel killer' but that implies one kill the wheel itself rather than finding apprpriate death within the wheel as the tration were [23:24] fire|bird: should be easy to find some of those. [23:24] Strykar: OK, I was guessing anyway [23:24] rworkman, well, maybe you can help out with one thing, i can't remember the directory broadcom drivers extract to [23:24] rworkman is now known as roodman [23:24] Tradition* [23:24] rworkman: I have one, FF, konqueror, etc. crash upon various flash sites. :) [23:25] nyRednek: ek, I don't recal either, but I think the bw_firmware-cutter or whatever it's called tells you [23:25] fire|bird: the only way I can get flash to NOT crash the browser on slackware64 is to use nspluginwrapper + the 32-bit flash 9 plugin [23:25] (and we have that at SBo) [23:25] Chakravanti, no, chakra literally means disc, and it implies a spinning disc [23:25] Chakravanti could be [23:25] Urchlay: really? Seems fine here [23:25] (in FF) [23:25] Chakravanti this is difficult pkg. [23:25] rworkman, the wifi drivers broke with slackpkg upgrade-all [23:26] Urchlay: really? I wonder if that will work here. In konqueror, it doesn't crash, but nspluginviewer does. [23:26] Strykar, like i said, "loosely" hindi and vedic aren't so easily translatable to such a rigid (and volatile) language such as english [23:26] nyRednek: hrm, custom compiled modules or part of the installed kernel? [23:26] yeah mine is fine as well, but fire|bird definately has a problem with his [23:26] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [23:26] rworkman: the only site that worked with FF + 64-bit flash 10 plugin was youtube (pretty much any myspace page with embedded music player would crash it, as would any non-youtube video site I tried) [23:26] Quiznos, you could give up and i would still love you! [23:26] Chakravanti, thanks for the Hindi lesson, and the Veda's or "vedic" has nothing to do with the meaning [23:26] Urchlay: AH HA, that's exactly what I have isues with. [23:26] Urchlay: oh, well, the only place I've looked is probably youtube [23:26] rworkman: I tried wiping out ~/.mozilla and starting from scratch, it didn't help [23:27] Urchlay: oh man, that's exactly what I've experienced. [23:27] I've been fighting that for a few days now. [23:27] bah [23:27] Strykar, depends where you rip the name 'Chakravanti' from [23:27] rworkman, broadcom and rtl8187se are proprietary on 12.2 [23:27] Action: MLanden passes flowers around and smokes his.....\m/ 8-) \|n/ [23:28] Strykar, familiar with any White Wolf publications? [23:28] nyRednek: oh, so they were custom compiled modules. That's expected breakage then - they'll have to be recompiled against the new kernel. [23:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:28] fire|bird: I fought it for a week or so, and surrendered (aka switched back to the slamd64 way of doing it, with nspluginwrapper + 32-bit plugin. Unfortunately the 32-bit flash 10 plugin doesn't work with nspw yet) [23:28] Urchlay: So, you have 32bit compat libs also? and then nspluginwrapper and 32bit flash? [23:28] yesa [23:28] s/a$// [23:28] ok, and is nspluginwrapper in slack or SBo? Sorry, I've never worked with that. [23:28] using compat32 libs from rsync://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current [23:29] Strykar, lets give this: I'll concede your obviously superiour knowledge of hindi and hindu traditionn if you concede mine of the fictional world of M:tA [23:29] Urchlay: ok, I just installed alienBOB's compat libs. [23:29] rworkman, yeah [23:29] And thatr's sayign somethign because I am a (independant) student of certain hindu traditions [23:30] the nspluginwrapper, I think I wanted to use the slamd64 build script, but it's a "PHBuild", and I ended up writing my own SlackBuild script because the pkghelper stuff didn't want to work (and it's easier for me to write new shell scripts than read someone else's) [23:30] M:tA? [23:30] bakednoodle, Mage: the Ascension [23:30] ugh. Hassle: The Dorkening [23:30] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] aw I see [23:30] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] bakednoodle, yeah, i've an old skool geek [23:31] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [23:31] s/i've/i'm [23:31] Urchlay: Would you mind sharing your script? [23:32] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [23:32] fire|bird: sure, lemme pastebin it... [23:32] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [23:32] Urchlay: ok, thank you. [23:32] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [23:32] bleah, there are patches [23:33] if you: slackpkg update gpg ..and you still get the 'you need a key' message, what to do? [23:33] grab the nspluginwrapper source from slamd64-12.2, and replace the .PHBuild with this SlackBuild: http://dpaste.com/88500/ [23:33] Chakravanti cant; must... defeat... [23:34] Urchlay: ok, thank you. [23:35] Quiznos, valient effort, we should email them and tell them to stop claiming they have a linux version [23:35] if it can't be compiled on slackware, it's DEFINATELY not for linux [23:36] "You can disable GPG checking too, but it is not a good idea." ...I'd rather not [23:36] Urchlay: any idea why there are a few that have this flash problem that yourself and fire|bird have, and myself and many others have no issues? It baffles me. [23:36] Quiznos, I'm just not sure they'de give a shit [23:36] hmm [23:36] Chakravanti well, it's not that; it want a version that is newer than what's installed on slackware (dont know about other dists) [23:37] a version of what? [23:37] gtk [23:37] newer than GTK 2.0? [23:38] for an emulator fo a system that's old than god [23:38] apparently; but gtk is sposedly optional but it wont configure without [23:38] tryin to mung configure [23:38] and yabause want's qt and i'm GTK only [23:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] in one or the readme files, it says "must have: ... gtk 2.0 (option) [23:39] most confusing [23:39] i lol [23:39] that you can call the authors out on tho [23:39] lol [23:39] confusion sux [23:39] this is why autotools sux [23:39] yeah [23:39] i have gtk 2.0 [23:39] maybe it'll work for me? [23:40] anyone? [23:40] i do to [23:40] too [23:40] pkg-config gtk+-2.0 --modversion => 2.16.1 (on my system), but someone can be asking for 2.18 or whatever [23:40] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@123.120.152.230) left irc: "leaving" [23:40] so you still have gtk+-2.0 but an older version [23:41] mbohun, a genesis emulator shouldn't need even gtk 2 [23:42] csaunders (n=christop@ip216-239-66-230.vif.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:42] the primary function of an emulator (in this sense) is to slow a system down. not provide forward compatability [23:42] so what? i don't care about your emulator, i m just saying that having gtk+-2.0 installed doesn't mean you have the right version [23:42] sorry to repost, but: [23:42] if you: slackpkg update gpg ..and you still get the 'you need a key' message, what to do? [23:42] frankyp (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:42] rworkman: where do i get the binary from opera for your slackbuild? [23:43] briareus, yeah, don't disable gpg checking [23:43] Chakravanti: I don't get how I have a key and yet don't have a key [23:43] briareus: you're running it as root? [23:43] yes [23:43] and if your emulator doesn't need gtk+-2.0 just take out the check for gtk+-2.0 from the autotools scripts [23:43] hrm [23:44] briareus, maybe you have the wrong repository enabled. LIke you are on 12.2 but enabled a 13.0 by mistake [23:44] briareus: can you run slackpkg update ? [23:44] "Slackware Linux Project's GPG key added" yep [23:44] or wherever is the dependency coming from [23:44] I'm in a new install of 13, reps at 13 [23:44] briareus, check the file? i did that by mistake and got some errors, don' [23:44] t rememebr what they are offhand though [23:45] so i might be talking abuot my drunken ass [23:45] s/abuot/out [23:45] aboot [23:45] chopp: no idea why [23:45] (sorry, late answer) [23:46] ok, i'm done with it [23:46] WAIt, now its working. How odd. it's like it took a few minutes or something [23:46] i think [23:46] see...the worse typos are ones that look they should represent (or actually are) another word (and entire context) meaning other than the original [23:46] i do that so often.... [23:47] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [23:47] amazon10x: the same place you get it for all of the other build scripts - see the .info file [23:48] dbolgheroni (n=dbolgher@189.110.206.244) joined ##slackware. [23:48] hmm...yabause SEEMS to really like Qt bindings, i'm tryign to stay gtk only. but i get this error from yabause: [23:48] chopp: I had hoped the flash nastiness would get fixed in 13.0 release (I'm still on old -current, not had time to update) [23:48] (yabause:20728): GdkGLExt-WARNING **: Window system doesn't support OpenGL. [23:48] anyone? [23:48] rworkman: of course. thanks [23:48] where are xorgconfig in 13.0? [23:48] xorgsetup? [23:49] just installed all x/ but can't find [23:49] dbolgheroni: it's in CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [23:49] Urchlay: ok, got that built and installed, thanks. :) [23:49] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [23:49] Try reading the docs. [23:49] no, xorgconfig [23:49] dbolgheroni: no, READ THAT FILE. [23:49] oh, i'll take a look [23:49] man this is brutal [23:49] thanks [23:49] yw :) [23:51] oh yeah baby. opera 10 [23:51] lol [23:51] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.42.75) left irc: "Leaving" [23:51] Chakravanti well. do you have the version installed that Gens wants? [23:51] amazon10x: I already have it built and installed. :) [23:51] Quiznos, which version is that? [23:51] just got it installed [23:51] but was using it on my netbook earlier today [23:51] i forgot how snappy opera is [23:52] i ahve whatever 13 came with [23:52] Urchlay: I see thanks [23:52] Chakravanti newer that 2.2.19, which I have [23:53] Chakravanti newer that 2.2.12, which I have [23:54] hmmhow do i check? [23:54] find /var/log -iname gtk* [23:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:54] ls /var/log/packages | grep gtk [23:54] amateur :) [23:55] 14 [23:55] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:55] rworkman: no reference [23:55] because its easy? [23:55] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] k [23:55] psb brb [23:55] xorgsetup? [23:55] Urchlay: Is there anything else I have to do to get it to work? Did you just move the flash .so file to somewhere or what? [23:55] Chakravanti i recall you wrote taht you got src file; is this one the latest pkg? [23:57] fire|bird: IIRC, you run "nspluginwrapper -i /path/to/blah.so" [23:58] fire|bird: kill your browser(s) first [23:58] Urchlay: ok, thanks. [23:59] EgoX (n=user@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: [23:59] briareus_ (n=briareus@ip70-176-28-69.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Quiznos, yes [23:59] night all [23:59] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [23:59] sorry I had a net failure [23:59] Urchlay: \o/, it works, thanks again. [00:00] --- Wed Sep 2 2009