[00:00] all right i am going to sleep. heviarti, you got an email when u get me the info ill get it out [00:00] have a good night all [00:00] lotec (lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:01] Heard of Albert One? [00:01] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) joined ##slackware. [00:01] The-Croupier: world music...program I listen to from time to time that highlight on various music [00:03] lannders (~lannders@193-25.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:03] I appreci... crap. missed. [00:04] ferdna007 (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:04] MLanden: i see... ;) [00:04] yes she is very very nice ;) [00:04] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:05] MLanden: there you go [00:05] http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=despina+vandi&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=CtB9TLS3C4vGsAOd3cymCw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CFEQsAQwBA&biw=1440&bih=750 [00:05] MLanden: to put a face on the voice ;) [00:06] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [00:07] The-Croupier: true..very nice indeed [00:08] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.8.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:09] MLanden: ;) np ;) [00:09] if you like those try helena paparizou ;) (hot and great voice ;) ) [00:09] m1ck3y (~mickey@adsl-76-226-249-238.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:26] heviarti Albert One....ahh, Secrets [00:26] MLanden: ;) hahaha ;) [00:27] turbo diesel. [00:29] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:31] heviarti: ahh...forgot 'bout that one [00:33] saturday night.. I win at le mans.. risking my life, I wave to my fans.. [00:33] The day this channel starts making sense to me, I will be very, very afraid :) [00:34] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.8.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:34] hahaha ;) [00:34] m1ck3y: maybe you dont have the right decryption software on ;) [00:34] The-Croupier: That's truly a terrifying thought... [00:34] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:35] m1ck3y: you are a very scared person :p [00:35] smoke a blunt or something relax ;) everything is cool ;) [00:35] lol [00:36] Could anyone poke around my site and tell me if the updated content is better? [00:36] m1ck3y: it's lyrics. [00:36] :) [00:36] rhisa: that implies that we know the content of your previous site ;) [00:36] Or where to find it :( [00:37] m1ck3y: man.... just put rhisa's site on google ;) [00:37] that would do it [00:37] Action: The-Croupier cannot stand stupid questions [00:37] Action: The-Croupier hides [00:37] rhisa.com [00:37] www.rhisa.com Sorry. [00:39] hmmm.... website and a cv ;) [00:39] i dont know if i like such an idea...but then again ...you seem to have lots of experience.... [00:40] rhisa: what do you mean in rhisaware that you "wanna become a kernel hacker" in what sense [00:41] The-Croupier, I would like to be able to write patches. [00:41] At least. [00:41] rhisa: i suppose you need to find them first ;) [00:42] the writting is not that bad ...;) the finding could be a problem ;) [00:42] I know. [00:42] I would also like to be able to write my own kernel. [00:42] I can already customize my own kernel based on the options given and understand many of the options but I want to go really deep. [00:43] rhisa: can i ask you why would you want to do something like that? [00:43] why write your own kernel? [00:43] The-Croupier, not only does it seem to build my skills, it's just extremely interesting. [00:43] I've learned to build my own programming language and Liunx, why the heck not? [00:43] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] rhisa: what do you mean by " build your own programming language" ??? [00:45] I literally mean what I mean. [00:46] that's a heck of an aspiration.... [00:46] There was a guide that taught that. Two of them in fact. One such book is a college textbook that taught me how to write my own compiler. [00:46] heviarti, I have to succeed. [00:47] so you are writting another compiler after all those that we already have [00:47] The-Croupier, skills and knowledge are always useful. I want to understand it all. [00:47] :( damn.... i have to change jobs in 10years from now [00:47] The-Croupier, how come? [00:47] rhisa: too many languages [00:47] Heh. [00:47] Really? [00:47] I don't think there are too many languages. [00:48] i know: albanian, italian, greek, english, french,spanish [00:48] D: And that's why I have to keep improving! [00:48] You know more languages than me. [00:48] then, html (not really a language), sql,c, c++,java,bash,....etc.... [00:49] too many....and the funny part is that ive been living 5 years in albania, 5 in greece, 4 in england, 2 in italy, one in france,...etc [00:49] You really know them like the back of your hand? That's what I consider knowing. [00:49] Ooh nvm you're a lot older than me. [00:49] lol [00:49] uva (~uva@111-240-210-26.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] rhisa: What school are you currently attending? [00:50] m1ck3y, CUNY [00:50] I'm a CU short on knowing what school that is :*( [00:50] Then Hunter. [00:51] m1ck3y: ohhhh you found the decrypter????? rhisa made it for you ??? [00:51] ;) [00:51] Action: The-Croupier hides [00:51] Action: m1ck3y hides as well [00:51] i want to make slackware a livecd.... (not Slax) [00:52] ahh, city university, I see. Are you studying Computer science currently? [00:52] livecd, usb...etc... [00:52] Yes. [00:52] Do you enjoy the program. I'm growing ever so tired of my school, and shopping I suppose. [00:52] What school? [00:52] shopping?! [00:52] I mean what major? [00:52] Computer Science (just beginning) I am in Michigan currently. [00:53] m1ck3y, It's very challenging, lots of math. [00:53] im in San Diego [00:53] I enjoy it immensely. [00:53] I am doing the honor program so every class I have is honor. Honor calc, honor physics, etc. So what I do is take one class at a time due to difficulty. [00:53] The computer programming side isn't the trouble. It's finding a school that I like.. [00:53] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-179-186.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:53] m1ck3y: i hope you are still talking about "enjoying" the course [00:53] Mine is more math than actual programming. [00:54] Action: m1ck3y turns decryptor back off [00:54] I learn a lot of math. Theoretical and abstract stuff. [00:54] I see, do they have a good program? [00:54] Action: The-Croupier lol [00:54] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:54] Depends. If you want compsci and a sure-fire success in the future, do CMU. [00:54] I am going to be biased so I really can't answer that. [00:55] I'll just say Hunter / CUNY system is the best college system in US and C is a failing grade in Hunter (and most CUNY here as well) especially math. [00:55] anyone considered MIT? or is it expensive? [00:55] I suppose that's true. CMU is a little lofty for my tastes.. [00:55] MIT is expensive and hard to get into. [00:55] rhisa: hard?! [00:55] CMU has the best cs program in the entire country. They consistently rank #1 in cs. [00:56] The-Croupier, yeah you need to have taken calculus and statistics in high school before you are even considered. [00:56] I've seen that, but I just so happen to be a high school drop-out with no money.. which kinda puts a damper on the #1 thing. [00:56] And good SAT and lots of extra curriculum (keep in mind I'm physically frail and deaf :( ). [00:56] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [00:56] I dropped out of hs too but I scored really high in my GED and could basically go to any college in NYC of my choice except Columbia. [00:56] rhisa: i see...but your cv/website didnt look bad [00:56] on the stuff that you know [00:57] But I was told by my cs dept they'll write me reference letters and stuff. So hopefully I'll get into Columbia. [00:57] The-Croupier, thank you. I was afraid people wouldn't like it. [00:57] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:57] rhisa: its nice on the quantity of stuff that you know and all this [00:57] but i prefer it NOT BE THERE tbh [00:58] Sorry, prefer what not be there? [00:58] i dont like cd/websites ;) for some reason i believe that the companies or whoever has to deserve to see my/your cv [00:58] cv/websites* [00:58] Oh.. [00:58] :[ [00:59] I dunno, I'm always looking up, not looking down. [00:59] http://www.ksandro.info/index.html this is my under-devel website ;) [01:00] i always look up too, but i wouldnt give my cv away unless necessary ;) [01:00] Your site is a little messy. ;_; [01:01] my father used to say"be careful where you put your dick and your signature" they both can fuck you up ;) [01:01] rhisa: ^^under-devel [01:01] I shall quote that. [01:01] Action: m1ck3y got his rights and lefts confused :( [01:02] rhisa: you got a small screen? [01:02] The-Croupier, nope. [01:03] thats why its messy as well [01:04] the bigger the screen the better that site ;) [01:04] I don't worry about a wierd internet stalker finding out where I live. I carry a gun. [01:04] And the number one comment in the "things coming out of nowhere contest" goes to... [01:04] Ya I have a big screen though. [01:05] m1ck3y: hahahahahahah nice one ;) [01:05] m1ck3y (~mickey@adsl-76-226-249-238.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:05] sorry man gotta go ;) [01:05] have fun you guys ;) [01:05] The-Croupier: take care [01:05] MLanden: you too bro [01:06] The-Croupier (Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [01:06] Night. [01:06] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:06] hiptobecubic^ (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [01:07] ext4 has crtime. yay %) [01:08] m1ck3y (~mickey@adsl-76-226-249-238.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:50] I read in slackware-current that I need an initrd [02:50] why? [02:51] tuvok302 (~Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-123.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:53] do you recompile the kernel? [02:53] redtricycle, because the generic kernel includes the bare minimum of modules inside, so you need an initrd to provide additiional modules (like the one for your filesystem). [02:53] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-127-130.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:53] redtricycle, run /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh [02:53] ah, ok [02:53] it will give you the string for your system. [02:54] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-127-225.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [02:56] Hm. Boot time almost identical using the generic kernel...42.2 vs 41.9 seconds, well within error for both [02:56] Coke (~coke@c-3ebee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[03:38] Are there any replacement packages for sendmail, I need an MTA that can easily be setup to relay e-mail using authenticated SMTP on the smart host. [03:39] i use ssmtp for that [03:39] Mm, can it do local delivery too? [03:40] like, if someone mails root@localhost or whatever [03:40] that i dont know [03:40] even with log level 100 sendmail does not log the conversation with the remote smart host [03:40] It takes like 35 seconds for it to decide whether or not to relay it [03:40] http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/send-mail-with-gmail-and-ssmtp/ i used this to setup caff [03:40] Every tutorial I read has a completely different setup of sendmail than the one in slackware [03:41] And the ones that I do follow don't explain why it takes forever to relay and why the remote AUTH fails. [03:41] There's nothing in the logs describing why it fails. [03:41] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [03:42] This unpleasant experience reminds me exactly why I switched to Exim4 [03:43] Just tested, ssmtp does not deliver to local users. [03:47] does anyone know of a website where i can see top level internet congestions [03:53] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:58] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:00] oh lord why cant all dists come with exim4 as default [04:02] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [04:03] DURgod (~DURgod@24-236-174-217.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:04] DURgod (~DURgod@24-236-174-217.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[05:10] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Excess Flood [05:10] can't the bot be programmed to ban if you join more than 4,567 times in 2 minutes? [05:10] j0z (unix@189.58.10.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:10] j0z (unix@189.58.10.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [05:10] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:10] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Excess Flood [05:10] j0z (unix@189.58.10.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:10] j0z (unix@189.58.10.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [05:10] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:10] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Excess Flood [05:10] would be a good feature [05:10] !ops [05:10] j0z (unix@189.58.10.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:10] j0z (unix@189.58.10.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [05:10] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. 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[05:12] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.28.223) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:12] nope [05:13] and the bot bans sometimes on such things, but not always* [05:13] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) joined ##slackware. [05:13] I just found out that I broke my music player's screen and I'll have to send it back to amazon US... so shipping is going to be a complete pita [05:13] ouch [05:13] and that makes me horribly sad ='( [05:14] ruined the month at least [05:14] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.73) joined ##slackware. [05:15] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:16] kickback (~Unknown@122.161.91.31) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:19] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:21] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [05:22] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. 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[06:20] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [06:20] epapi, gparted is available on slackbuilds.org, as well as partitionmanager. [06:20] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:20] nice, second day with 12.2 without crashes :) [06:20] What's wrong with the gparted iso to burn to CD? [06:21] epapi, i was wrong, partitionmanager should be available in /extra on the slackware media. so use that. [06:21] delt0r___ (~delt0r@188-22-170-52.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:21] wobbles, what's wrong with installing software directly on your linux? [06:22] right [06:22] epapi: partitionmanager is in extra/ [06:22] oh right, slava_dp said it already [06:22] uh-huh =) [06:22] slava_dp: I like to have gparted on a livecd so I can use it anywhere [06:22] ...now i remember why i hadn't used that. i use xfce and partitionmanager need kde core [06:23] epapi, so get sbopkg if you don't already have it, and build yourself gparted. [06:23] why doed fdisk or cfdisk not work for you? [06:23] RLa, not comparable. [06:23] you need to resize ntfs? [06:24] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-96-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:25] wobbles, come to say that, I have systemrescuecd and a bunch of other stuff that loads from my usb flash drive. that's my version of handy :) [06:25] Action: slava_dp off to lunch [06:25] slava_dp: My point exactly :-) [06:26] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:31] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Quit: And I can't put the needle in... [06:33] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D4D0D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:39] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [06:39] jaminja_ (~jaminja@95.211.4.12) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:43] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:44] I cannot find what I need to turn on in the kernel to get my system to find my IDE HDD [06:44] HUGE kernel finds it, but generic and custom dont, how can I track down what it is? [06:45] I have recompiled about 5 times, and Im obviously missing it everytime [06:45] Wdyy__ (~wdyy@123.80.26.24) joined ##slackware. [06:47] wdyy_ (~wdyy@123.80.26.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:48] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-96-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: quitter [06:48] j0z (unix@189.58.29.100.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:48] j0z (unix@189.58.29.100.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [06:48] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:53] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:53] tuanld91 (~chatzilla@117.4.162.193) joined ##slackware. [06:53] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424114.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:55] hello~ ^^ [06:56] i'm wondering if is there anyway to pass module option into the initrd image [06:56] i'm using slackware-12.2 [06:57] KaMii, what ide chip you use? [06:57] KaMii, or motherboard chip/arch for south bridge [06:58] hmmp, it's just that i read from somewhere that i can pass module option in to the initrd image [06:58] i'm trying it with matroxfb-base module [06:59] i have tried add file to modprobe.d [06:59] or using mkinitrd.conf [06:59] xchg (~xchg@94.229.33.133) joined ##slackware. [06:59] something like this vesa=0x1B5 [07:00] ASUS M4A87TD mobo AMD 870 Chipset Support [07:01] pete` (~user@013.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424114.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:02] KaMii, are you sure that this chip handles ide? [07:03] KaMii, can you paste your lspci output somewhere? [07:04] yes i know it does, HUGE kernel sees the drive, [07:04] im accessing the drive right now under the huge kernel [07:04] i just dont know what option needs to be turned on in my custom kernel [07:06] just paste the damn lspci output [07:06] lot of sb850 (that's probably your south bridge) mobos use separate chip for ide: http://forums.tweaktown.com/motherboards/40607-amds-sb850-pata-controller.html [07:06] cant really paste that right now, that comp is not in a window manager and it wont boot into one under the HUGE kernel [07:07] just ssh into it [07:07] this comp cant run java to pastebin [07:07] ? [07:07] hold on, let me try something [07:08] or ssh from the comp to somewhere else [07:08] or send it using mail :) [07:10] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [07:10] or if you see jmicron in lspci you probably have that [07:14] tuanld91 (~chatzilla@117.4.162.193) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100701063550] [07:15] http://pastebin.ca/1930431 [07:16] takes forever because this comp is a pentium 90 [07:16] 04:00.0 IDE interface: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB368 IDE controller [07:17] there it is, you need jmicron drivers [07:17] ok thanks RLa [07:17] lspci can output lot of good information :) [07:18] :) [07:18] i knew there was a command somewhere [07:19] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Gatto (~Romeo~@host195-16-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:21] hi guys [07:24] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:24] archceza1 (1000@afe111.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Mowah (~Mowah@c-1c8ae555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:24] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. 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[07:37] Device Drivers --> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL [07:38] that apperently is not the right place, so where is IDE support located? [07:38] CONFIG_BLK_DEV_JMICRON [07:38] not sure where it is under config tree [07:39] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Remember Panzer, A dear friend. [07:39] hm, there seem to be two things for jmicron [07:40] CONFIG_PATA_JMICRON <- this too [07:40] the previous one was legacy stuff, disable that [07:40] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:41] Block Device Very old hdd support? [07:41] that has IDE in there [07:41] don't use that [07:41] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [07:41] use this newer setting [07:41] ya I turned on the PATA jmicron [07:41] but I cant find the BLK_DEV_JMICRON [07:44] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:45] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:45] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:45] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [07:46] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:47] I had more than one IDE option enabled so I turned them all of except for the JMICRON, im recompiling, maybe there was a conflict [07:47] hm [07:48] idk, I have my doubts this will work [07:49] BLK_DEV_JMICRON is under Device Drivers --> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL [07:49] you can try with one of these enabled, and both of them enable [07:50] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:51] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. 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[07:56] ok, i have no fcking idea what needs to be turned on [07:56] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [07:56] and im getting tired of rebooting [07:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:57] well, there must be a reason why huge works [07:57] ya, it has something turned on that I dont [07:57] pete` (~user@013.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [07:58] all this for a lousy backup drive that I will only mount when I need to back something up... [07:59] and I dont want to have to boot into HUGE just to back things up [07:59] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [08:00] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [08:02] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] use usb disk for backups :) [08:04] if your computer bursts into fire your backup disk is destroyed anyway [08:04] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:06] lol [08:06] Wdyy__ (~wdyy@123.80.26.24) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:06] slaker (~slaker@82.132.139.45) joined ##slackware. [08:06] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.26.24) joined ##slackware. [08:06] ya well my enclsoure is super loud thats why I dont want to use it [08:07] slaker (~slaker@82.132.139.45) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:09] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:10] cordoban (~cordoban@178.128.90.23.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:10] hi [08:16] hello. [08:17] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. 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[09:10] versy [09:14] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:14] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [09:15] pete` (~user@011.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:16] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-147-223.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:18] metrofox (~metrofox@unaffiliated/metrofox) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [09:19] anyone familiar with some of the SubGenius readings. I just read over some, and ...well Wow is about all I can say. Weird stuff! [09:19] ramiroec (c86c8823@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.108.136.35) joined ##slackware. [09:19] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:20] Indeed it is weird [09:21] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:21] -3..........+++6A6 [09:21] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:21] ++++++3+66666666663+0. [09:21] facinating and bizzarr [09:24] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-147-223.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:25] alienBOB: I built KDE 4.5.1 here [09:25] It built fine with the current set of dependencies [09:25] NaCl: working smooth? [09:25] it works like 4.5.0 [09:25] The thing I want to work still doesn't work [09:26] it's not important [09:26] what is the thing? [09:26] compositing [09:26] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-148-17.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] doesn't seems to like to use fglrx for that [09:27] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [09:27] that would be a deal breaker for me unfortunately. Im spoiled I guess [09:27] it used to work [09:27] wdyy_ (~wdyy@123.80.26.16) joined ##slackware. [09:28] I have had tons of trouble with fglrx and other distros. [09:28] it can be problematic [09:28] everything else seems to work [09:29] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.26.24) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:29] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-170.viapori.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:29] how long did it take to get it up and going [09:29] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-170.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [09:31] ran the installer script with --buildpkg Slackware/All, installed the packages, modified xorg.conf [09:31] Roin (~florian@p5B2BEDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [09:33] I will never buy another Ati/AMD graphics card. The Linux support sucks [09:34] padhu (~padhu@175.40.35.218) joined ##slackware. [09:34] NaCl: yes I estimated that there would not be new build dependencies for KDE 4.5.1 [09:34] alienBOB:why so? is it the drivers (or lack of drivers)? [09:35] It's gotten way better over the years [09:35] I only hear complaints about fglrx [09:35] it works perfectly fine here [09:35] The radeon driver is ok, sort-of... but no hardware 3d acceleration [09:35] And I'm not sure if the problem here is with kwin [09:35] alienBOB: I second the ATI/ADM ... it has been the #1 hardship for me in switching from win to linux [09:35] it could easily [09:35] wobbles (huntsman@C-59-101-167-175.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:36] With nvidia it's still a binary blob but at least that works very well, even on old cards. Ati drops support for older cards way too rapidly [09:38] alienBOB: read that ADM is dropping ATI (lxer.com i think) [09:39] only the brand-name though [09:40] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:41] speller (~sheller@122.6.123.206) joined ##slackware. [09:41] the cards also. They have a new line comming out, and discontinuing the ATI line altogether [09:42] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:44] ilker (~ilker@78.175.8.243) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Roin: guess you were more right than I thought http://tinyurl.com/23c69e8 [09:47] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.170.177) joined ##slackware. [09:48] thats the article I've read about it already [09:48] ilker (~ilker@78.175.8.243) left irc: Changing host [09:48] ilker (~ilker@last.fm/user/ilker) joined ##slackware. [09:49] if they would drop all support from ATI labled/older/actual video cards it would be like a kick in the face to all customers wouldnt it? :D [09:49] EthanG (~ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) joined ##slackware. [09:50] NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-256.44.run: cannot execute binary file [09:50] forced obsolesence is a common strategy in business [09:50] dude, what? [09:50] more like a second kick. the first kick was the card itself ;) [09:50] haha [09:51] EthanG: didnt have anything to do with you ._. [09:51] the worst part about it, is that they'll prolly still keep the clowns who write bad ati drivers [09:51] their pealing off the ati labels and sticking on fusion lables as we speak [09:52] i always wanted nvidia and amd to team, but they wanted to buy each other instead [09:52] Roin: what didn't? [09:52] EthanG: what Skywise said [09:52] I know. I was following up on my previous line. I'm just a little slow to type today [09:52] oh ok [09:53] EthanG: found the solution yet? [09:53] does it have +x? [09:53] executable bit :) [09:53] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-140.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] I'm just wondering how it can't exec when it's execd before, the kernel has ia32 compat... [09:54] it's a shell script, I sourced it just like last time [09:54] I even built ia32_aout compat as a module for it, lol [09:54] I wonder if it's binfmt_misc [09:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:55] Could someone with slackbuilds experience please pm me and help me with a package I can't get to work [09:55] binfmt_misc ain't it. [09:56] ! [09:57] okay it works when sourced _before_ multilib, but install multilib and it needs to be chmod +x ._. [09:57] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) joined ##slackware. [09:57] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) left irc: Changing host [09:57] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] has anyone experienced problems with amarok in 13.1? Never used it before, but it seems completly unusable in my install. No sound at all. [10:00] Hi there. I have downloaded the Slackbuild and the source code for 64 bit Flash Player from Slackbuilds.org. I have followed the instructions but when I try to execute the slackbuild script it tells me that it can't find the file and exits... I don't know if it's something I've done [10:01] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:02] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [10:03] slobad23: You didn't download the source you downloaded a compiled library as flash is not open source. Also, for reference there is a channel called #slackbuilds [10:03] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [10:03] try this [10:03] jgeboski, Will head there now. Thanks [10:03] slobad23: no worries i konw what your problem is [10:04] ARCH=x86_64 ./flash-player-plugin.SlackBuild [10:04] slobad23: try that [10:05] Nope, still nothing [10:05] It's telling you it can't find the tar archive? [10:05] The 64 bit I downloaded was libflashplayer10...it says it can't find install_flash_player... [10:07] tar: /home/slobad23/flash-player-plugin/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory [10:07] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [10:07] I'm assuming you downloaded http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz Put libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz inside the same directory as the slackbuild and everything else [10:07] and you downloaded the x86 version not the x86_64 [10:07] I downloaded the 64 bit from slackbuilds [10:08] no you didn't or you'd have a file called libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz [10:08] the slackbuild overrides ARCH [10:08] uname -m, please [10:09] wouldn't be the first bad d/l link on a slackbuild page [10:09] then shouldn't you edit the script [10:09] I do have it in there. root@dhcppc1:/home/slobad23/flash-player-plugin# ls [10:09] README [10:09] error.txt [10:09] Channel flood from slobad23 -- kicking [10:09] flash-player-plugin.SlackBuild* [10:09] flash-player-plugin.info [10:09] slobad23 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:09] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.170.177) joined ##slackware. [10:09] ok... kicked for flooding [10:09] I have that file in the directory jgeboski but it's not finding it [10:09] uname -m, please [10:10] i686...??? I have a 64 bit board with 64 bit install... what's happened? [10:10] what file did you download? [10:10] uhh... apperently not [10:10] er.. [10:10] slobad23: what iso did you download? [10:10] pete` (~user@011.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:13] grep flags /proc/cpuinfo [10:14] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.170.177) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:23] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Howdy [10:23] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-148-17.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:24] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:24] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:26] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.206.79) joined ##slackware. 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[10:35] dngr (~dngr@n11649134056.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [10:36] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Action: KaMii pounces arfon [10:37] arfon: well, dovecot is a SBo, so... [10:37] arfon: wow works under x64 architecture with 32 bit wine [10:37] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-45-105-242.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:37] well i didnt play it yet, but it loaded up just fine [10:38] Why when I have installed 64 bit Slackware does uname -m show that I am on i686 and not x86_64? Could that be anything to do with why I am having trouble with Slackbuilds Flash Player 64 bit install? [10:39] Did you do a 64bit and a 32bit Wine install KaMii ? [10:39] slobad23: can you show us your uname -a output? [10:39] Or just a 32bit? [10:40] Dominian, Linux dhcppc1 2.6.33.4-smp #2 SMP Wed May 12 22:47:36 CDT 2010 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3400 @ 2.16GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [10:40] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Yeah you didn't install 64bit [10:40] slobad, are you just installing Flash player as a firefox plugin? [10:40] slobad23: Confirm the iso you installed from is 64bit [10:40] arfon: ya i did [10:41] nyRednek: Isn't courier an official package? [10:41] where would I find that on the disc? [10:41] KaMii: So, what was the hard part of getting 32wine to work? [10:41] (I need to install it at home) [10:41] it wasnt hard at all [10:41] worked just fine [10:42] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:42] Did you have to make 13.1 multilib? [10:42] the hard part was understaning how 32 and 64 bit works [10:42] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:42] slobad23: What iso did you download? [10:42] and mulitlibs but alienBOB explained it to me last night so I figured it out [10:42] slobad23: I mean.. .right there is what will tell you [10:42] arfon: dunny [10:42] I downloaded the 64 bit DVD iso [10:42] slobad23: You're positivie? [10:42] er.. positive [10:42] arfon: dunno, i mean [10:42] arfon: ya I have multilibs, that was easy to make [10:42] ilker (~ilker@last.fm/user/ilker) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:43] slobad23: double-check [10:43] arfon: there are a few binary wine packages out [10:43] well it would seem that I didn't but I definitely selected the 64 bit DVD [10:43] the 64bit iso is.. definitely 64bit :) [10:43] just grab aliens packages and follow his wiki [10:43] building wine failed for me because the automatic multilib script didn't install the X multlibs [10:43] nyRednek: I knew what you meant :) [10:43] slobad, the script is bad. remove the lines under src version [10:43] i need to have a word with alienBOB re testing a game that stopped working a version or two back on wine [10:43] the wine 64 is strictly developmental and it says on their website not to run winex64 unless you want to help develop it [10:44] from #Automatativcally drtermine to esac (7 lines) [10:44] So, KaMii, are you going to put those multilib packages that you built onto your new web server so I can download them??? [10:44] I'll get around to them when I don't have a stomach bug, just saying in case anyone else ran into it [10:44] would 32 bit show 2 processors at boot time? [10:44] hahaha arfon i could [10:44] replace it witht he line: ARCH="x86_64" [10:44] but no idea when I will get that webserver online [10:44] oh and that's a point, binaries which need x multilib work [10:44] slobad23: if you have a dual core it will [10:44] I run 64bit XP on my game machine so I built wine in 64bit thinking that it would play the same way... WRONG! [10:44] slobad23: yep [10:45] mancha: He's on i686.. [10:45] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [10:45] arfon: just rebuild wine with 32 libs [10:45] Dominian, i know what i am talking about. m'kay? [10:45] Well I guess it's not a huge issue. I don't need 64 bit and this way I will be using flash that is actually supported [10:45] slobad23: slackware (all versions that support SMP - which should be since 10.0 at minimum) will show multiple penguins/tazmanian devils when booting [10:45] mancha: Wait are you talkinga bout wine or flash? [10:45] mancha: there are like 4 conversations going on at once.. don't be a dick. [10:45] don't concern yourself with my suggestions. [10:45] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:45] alisonken1home: slack supported smp as of 3.x, iirc [10:45] I see [10:46] I will... I spent last night building a 'mail'machine and building an rtorrent package (WITH IP filtering) :) [10:46] I'll concern myself as I see fit mancha [10:46] and again, if you're talking about the flash issue that slobad23 is having he's on i686.. so point is moot [10:46] huh i only saw the multiple penguins when I installed x64 never saw it before.... [10:46] slobad23, edit the slackbuild, remove the lines i mentioned and add ARCH="x86_64" [10:47] brb [10:47] nyRednek: SMP - yes, but penguins on boot, no [10:47] or in the case of the one kernel, taz [10:48] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:48] funny I thought the multi-penguins patch had been around a while [10:48] or rither been included in main for a while [10:48] *rather [10:49] it's been a while, but slackware hasn't supported the multi-penguin patch on display back to 3.x - it's been more recent than that [10:49] on the default kernels [10:49] flash is working!!!!!!!!!!!! woo woo!!!! [10:50] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [10:50] yeyyy [10:50] slobad23: so you are using x86_64? [10:50] I am the best Slackware Hackz0r you have ever laid your eyes on. It's ok everyone, don't get up... I am a mere mortal like you :-D [10:50] mancha: Now I'm curious why changing the arch allowed it to work on his kernel. [10:50] Dominian, I am sing 32 bit... That would be why I have been struggling each time I have installed what I thought to be 64 bit slackware [10:50] slobad23: Sep 01 10:42 < mancha> slobad23, edit the slackbuild, remove the lines i mentioned and add ARCH="x86_64" [10:50] slobad23: that's the suggestion I'm referring to [10:50] slobad23: IS that the change you made? [10:51] Oh no... sorry - I was off installing the 32 bit slackbuild [10:51] Thank you [10:51] that's all I needed [10:51] Action: Dominian rules [10:51] back to work for me [10:51] slobad23: and congrats :) [10:51] lol [10:51] mancha: my script is bad? In what way? [10:51] alienBOB: I don't think it is. [10:51] alienBOB: I think they were pulling the 64bit flash player build from /extra [10:51] alienBOB: slobad23 apparently thought they had 64bit.. turns out.. was 32bit [10:52] pulled the proper slackbuild.. built.. installed.. he's working now [10:52] alienBOB: can you do me a favor when you get the time? [10:52] Gatto (~Romeo~@host195-16-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Gatto [10:53] I saw your question regarding playing a game under wine nyRednek... but I am not a wine developer so if something broke I think I will not be able to help you [10:53] alienBOB, your script? I'm confused. [10:53] alienBOB: i was thinking there are some settings i missed somewhere that makes it work [10:54] I guess we're all confused then mancha, I was triggered by a remark you made but threre were several simultaneous discussions going on [10:54] nyRednek: I doubt I can help you with configuring wine for a game, any better than anybody in this channel [10:55] alienBOB: ok, thanks [10:56] nyRednek: KaMii and phrag seem to be the Games on Wine ppl here [10:56] Action: alienBOB going home [10:56] Headed out to the spaceship there? [10:57] hmm, wonder if smac will run under wine. latest qemu-kvm doesn't like win98 [10:57] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:59] Thanks for all the help guys. No doubt I will be back. Is there a project going on that is as in depth as SlackBasics was for 12.1? A continued wiki project or something similar to the Arch site for step by steps and Slackware information? [10:59] Slackwiki.org? [11:01] Who's the Slackwiki main dude anyway? [11:02] nyRednek: what game is it? [11:02] Hello Kitty's Mall Adventure [11:03] hahaha [11:03] His favorite MMORPG [11:03] uhhh he needs .NET [11:03] .FAIL? [11:03] exactly [11:04] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [11:04] he might be trying to run Progress Quest under x64 wine [11:05] lol [11:05] Never heard of it so I missed the joke. :( [11:05] oh its a parody of all MMORPGS [11:05] Hey, Solitare is FAST under wine64 [11:05] its just a bunch of progress bars that continue to load [11:06] Nice... I wanna be a lvl 80 Progress Quest player then [11:06] arfon gots some minesweeper skills that are unmatched by all [11:06] Yeah I do... My strategy: Shotgun it all [11:06] 100x100 with 10 mines? [11:07] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:07] Wooo, you live dangerously... 5 mines [11:07] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [11:07] (I usually win too!) [11:07] only those who mastered progress quest dare to use 10 mines [11:07] Howdy folks. [11:07] Hi there Alan [11:07] Kenjiro (1000@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: Quit: gone [11:07] hai [11:08] I'm not worthy yet KaMii [11:08] everytime I see Alan_Hicks .. for some reason it reminds me of Sandy Cheeks on Spongebob [11:08] blah the KDE room ignored my question [11:08] <--- A Patrick fan... [11:08] <--- Partial to Squidward [11:08] arfon: the "Howdy Y'all" just gets me thinking [11:09] :) [11:09] Eh, Patrick's great ^^ [11:09] I got an issue with a MySQL server. For some reason it doesn't want to respect '%' for the hostname in mysql.user. Any ideas why? Is there some obscure configuration option that might cause this? [11:09] She is from Texas.. [11:09] Alan, I had that problem too... I ended up just specifying localhost [11:10] For example, user foo could not connect from 192.168.0.1 with "% foo" in mysql.user, but can connect if I put in "192.168.0.1 foo". [11:10] arfon: Yeah well, I need a lot of different application servers to hit this SQL box. [11:10] When you find the answer, I'd love to know what it is.... [11:11] I might hope over to #mysql and ask. [11:11] That quirk pissed me off for a few hours until I gave up. [11:11] Don't be offened when they tell you to RTFM... :( [11:12] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:12] padhu (~padhu@175.40.35.218) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:12] ok since KDE room is ignoring me... I made a bunch of scripts for my wine programs, and I attached them to a panel. now I want to change each icon to the program it represents, but the icons are chaning all file types, not just the single file, is there a way to just change one file icon and not its entire type? [11:13] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [11:14] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:14] KaMii sounds like you want to make .desktop files to launch your scripts [11:14] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:15] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [11:15] ah, probably [11:15] but how do I do that? [11:15] and how do I then change each icon individually? [11:16] you set the icon in the dektop file [11:16] desktop [11:16] because everytime i try to set my icon for my script files, it just changes every single script file icon [11:16] if you look up where your menu is stored.. used to be /usr/share/applications [11:16] so wont it do the same thing for a .desktop? [11:18] no you don't set the icon for the file type. .desktop files are text files specifying the icon, name, description, and executable [11:19] if you want to edit them GUIly, try using the menu editor [11:19] once you've got the .desktop files you'll add them as app launchers rather than file icons [11:20] motaro (~motaro@190.166.55.67) joined ##slackware. [11:20] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:20] Hello everyone. [11:20] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [11:20] ello [11:21] I have two issues with my slackware setup: [11:22] we have two answers. accuracy may suffer depending on who replies. [11:22] 1. I cannot change from tty (alt+F[2..6]) [11:22] 1. MSNatural keyboard? I have the same issue [11:22] (with one specific model of MSN keyboard) [11:22] ok i will look around google for how I can make a .desktop file [11:22] thanks EthanG [11:23] No is a hp dv1000 notebook. It used to work fine. One day after booting it wouldn't happen. [11:23] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:23] KaMii: you shouldn't need to google, there should be tons on your system you can use as examples. open a terminal and: locate .desktop [11:24] Hey KaMii, is jpilot working on your new install? [11:24] When I press the function keys it shows A for F1, B for F2, C for F3, and respectively. [11:25] motaro: check your bios for a setting that says something about the multimedia keys first, then the function keys? [11:26] cordoban (~cordoban@178.128.90.23.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: ‘ŔżÇÎÁ·Ăµ [11:26] First time compiling something... So glad I have most of what I need in slackware and that it's not a Gentoo install... I don't know how those guys stay sane! [11:26] ok that's a good one alison I'll try that one see you in a min. [11:26] arguably, they're not :D [11:26] motaro (~motaro@190.166.55.67) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:26] slobad23: who said the gentoo guys were sane in the first place? [11:27] I helped out with source mage for a few years. it's arguably saner than gentoo but it just _used_ so much of my energy [11:28] I am just curious as to whether or not I have done it right... or if it's slowly breaking my computer with each new line it outputs [11:28] only "make install" breaks your computer :) [11:29] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:30] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [11:32] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:32] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-170.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:32] goj (~goj@p5488F54E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:32] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-170.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. 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[11:38] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [11:38] echo $TERM [11:38] that .desktop thing isnt working I am getting the same issue [11:39] its just changing all .desktop file icons.... I only want it to change the file's icon not every single .desktop file [11:39] KaMii: post your desktop file [11:39] pastebin rather [11:40] i j k l ~ Metallica - Master Of Puppets - Master Of Puppets [Length: 8:34] ~ l k j i [11:41] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:41] snL20: really kindly .. turn that shit off. we really do not give a turds ass. [11:42] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:42] wait, nevermind I got it [11:42] Jeddeb (~Jeddeb@modemcable109.239-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:42] BP{k}: sorry .. wrong channel... its not automated so no worries [11:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:42] I have just installed virtualbox from slackbuilds and I cant seem to find it anywhere to actually run it... where would I find it - does it take a restart of KDE for it to appear int he application launcher? [11:42] the stupid create new option didnt edit the ICON= section [11:43] snL20: k :) now buy us all a beer and your sins will be forgiven. ;) [11:43] haha :D [11:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:43] BP{k}: lol... I'll buy you all some coca cola zero.. cause that's what I'm having ;) [11:43] We all have to share one beer?!? [11:43] slobad23: Virtu from terminal should launch it :p [11:43] rob0: you can't have any ;) [11:43] I'm good with coffee :) [11:43] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:44] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Roin, Doesn't appear [11:45] oh ^_^' [11:46] It appears in pkgtool that it is on the system [11:46] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:46] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:47] bnguyen (~chatzilla@210.245.12.43) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:50] slobad23: Not yet. [11:52] lotec (lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:52] padhu (~padhu@175.40.48.233) joined ##slackware. [11:53] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:53] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Roin (~florian@p5B2BEDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: supper, bbl o/ [11:53] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [11:54] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D4D0D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:54] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Good day. Does anyone if its possible to enable 3d acceleration for a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x. Because when i startx, I get "FATAL: mach64 module not found" [11:58] EthanG (ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) left ##slackware. [12:00] speller (~sheller@122.6.123.206) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:01] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:01] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Client Quit [12:01] Just out of curosity Jeddeb, are you using the ATI official driver? [12:02] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:03] I don't think so... [12:04] I doubt it'd work for such an old card [12:05] ATI had legacy drivers... Just a thought [12:07] Jeddeb did you make an xorg.cong? [12:07] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [12:10] mancha yes with xorgsetup [12:10] anyone in here use mitter? (the linux twitter app)? [12:11] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [12:11] Jeddeb, that might be a problem. try to not use an xorg.conf also try to edit your current one wo change the driver to "radeon" [12:11] arfon but why does xorg try to load mach64 drivers if they don't work? [12:12] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-98-158.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Don't know Jeddeb, I always use the official drivers, they tend to just work... [12:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:13] oh i found something that would be fun to run, but never hook it upto the net... damnvulerablelinux.org [12:13] i think thats what it is [12:13] Why not just run windows KaMii ? [12:14] haha, well it basically is as secure as windoze [12:14] but a linux distro made for learning how to spot vulerabilities, and exploits [12:14] hahah [12:14] AND, twitter would work :P [12:14] well mitter was working, until last night [12:14] damn vulnerable linux is a teaching tool, it claims to be vulnerable. windows IS vulnerable andclaims to not be :) [12:15] Sounds like redundant work.... [12:15] i dont know if twitter did something or not, but it wont connect, it keeps saying my authentications are wrong (username password) but they are not, I didnt change anything, it just all of a sudden stopped working [12:15] Just load windows on your class computers and let the students surf pr0n sites.... [12:16] KaMii: What do you have to twitter about anyway???? [12:16] you arfon [12:16] I use it to talk with family thats in the USA [12:16] PFFT! [12:16] becuase they all have twitter and asked me to get it also, so I did [12:16] Don't have much to say to them eh? [12:16] nope [12:17] I understand.... [12:17] Jeddeb (~Jeddeb@modemcable109.239-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:17] fully [12:18] but still, why did mitter all of a sudden die? [12:18] You compiled it out of the kernel? :) [12:18] haha, no mitter the twitter client not mitter unix [12:19] clamAV killed it? :)) [12:19] something killed it [12:19] first it was twitt-el the emacs twitter with the 1 gig memory leak [12:20] I know, look in .desktop and find the line 'Disable mitter' and comment it out. [12:20] now mitter with the, we're too stupid to figure out how to connect' [12:20] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:20] arfon: my mitter is running on slackintosh which uses XFCE [12:20] Jeddeb (~Jeddeb@modemcable109.239-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:20] See, problem solved.... [12:20] I never did anything to that machine, it was working, then it stopped and I didnt touch a thing [12:20] Shotgunning always works... eventually [12:21] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:21] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-45-105-242.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [12:22] arfon's way of opening a pinjata... Blindfold + shotgun + drunk + dizzy from spining in circles [12:22] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:23] :) [12:23] Too much work... I just lean out my second story windows with the shotgun.... easy [12:24] Roin (~florian@p5B2BEDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] ...after I scoot the Lazy-boy over to the window. [12:24] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-98-158.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:25] i think twitter hates me [12:28] Bah, why is it so hard to set up finch for gchat?????? [12:28] too many dependencies [12:28] doesnt finch use adobe air? [12:28] Nah KaMii, it just wants your money for a minimal amout of service. [12:28] Wiren- (lfjs@78.251.225.204) joined ##slackware. [12:28] pft screw that [12:29] So, I go to the finch/pigin wiki and I look up the gtalk section.... [12:29] and it doesn't specify which protocol/service to choose.... [12:29] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Gah, I'm a retard [12:30] XMPP is in there [12:30] twitter is a microblogger, why do so many twitter apps fail? ffs how hard is this people? [12:30] PFFT! Email is just plain text, why is it so fsck'd up? [12:31] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) joined ##slackware. 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[12:40] motaro (~motaro@190.166.55.67) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:40] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [12:40] hahaha, not years [12:41] KaMii: Why did your chat timestamp say 9/1/1978 ? [12:42] huh? [12:42] i didnt say anything [12:43] (Time delay joke) [12:43] HarryS (H@2001:470:892c:3432::1) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:43] ((yes, I was reaching)) [12:43] oh, hahah i get it now [12:43] but I wasnt alive yet in 1978 [12:43] its why i didnt get it [12:43] You didn't miss anything [12:44] Hmmm, the #pidgin guys are useless [12:45] lol [12:45] morhonen (~kimmo@dyn2-212-50-134-176.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:46] Did you get jpilot to work on the new machine? [12:46] Jeddeb (~Jeddeb@modemcable109.239-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:46] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [12:47] uhh, slackintosh devs just updated it yesterday so I havent tried it yte [12:47] No, I mean on your new machine.... [12:47] oh, havent tried [12:47] dont wanna [12:47] ??? [12:48] im not going on a udev safari and chown hunt on my new comp [12:48] Why not? You might bag yourself a tiger.... [12:49] or a cougar [12:49] Just plug it in and run jpilot and see if it works without any messing [12:49] mancha: :) [12:51] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.63.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Nick change: Guest51139 -> BiCHiTo [12:51] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) left irc: Changing host [12:51] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:57] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:00] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.21.69.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:01] MMmmm lunch time.. BBL [13:01] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:04] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.206.79) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:05] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:05] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:07] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [13:11] EthanG (~ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) joined ##slackware. [13:11] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [13:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:13] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:14] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.206.79) joined ##slackware. [13:14] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.121.50) joined ##slackware. [13:15] How do I allow a new user the ability to shutdown from KDE? Would make things a little bit faster. [13:15] make sure they're in the power group [13:16] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [13:17] and that will add the shutdown to kde automatically will it? [13:17] it will give you permissions to do that [13:17] so i'd imagine it will show up once you have permission. I don't know KDe very well [13:18] Ok, have sorted that [13:18] thanks very much [13:19] Running KDE in Slackware and you still spend half your life in Konsole anyway. Why do I bother with all the pretty KDE stuff... Bash and Vi from now on. I'm rm'ing everything else [13:20] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:20] a graphical browser and graphical games are nice [13:21] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Quit: The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? [13:21] And the overall look of KDE is cool as well ^o^ [13:21] I'm more of a GTK style guy, personally [13:22] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:23] well I have flash and virtual box all installed. Was not as easy as things have been in Fedora but I have learnt a bit as I went along. [13:24] :) [13:25] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:25] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [13:26] how do i move a directory that is not empty? [13:26] rm -rf directory_name [13:26] that's remove [13:26] move should just work [13:26] oops [13:26] Luckily I know enough to not do that! [13:26] :] [13:26] :D [13:26] slobad23: sorry about that. Thought i saw remove [13:27] I used "mv .Virtualbox /home/slobad23" and it says that it can't because the directory is not empty [13:27] mv should work [13:27] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [13:27] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.21.69.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:28] do you have permissions to move everything in the tree? [13:28] I am doing it as root [13:28] "mv .Virtualbox /home/slobad23/."? [13:28] Coore (korv@unaffiliated/c00re) left ##slackware. [13:29] jgeboski, Doesn't work either [13:29] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:30] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:30] try copying it: cp -a .Virtualbox /home/slobad23 [13:31] yes it copies [13:31] Copy and then delete? I know I 'could' do that... I just thought that I might be able to move it and have that be it [13:31] Wiren- (lfjs@78.251.225.204) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:31] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [13:32] you `should` be able to move [13:32] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:32] ah!! [13:32] the destination is not free [13:32] there's a .Virtualbox in the destination already [13:33] oh right. Virtualbox probably mad ea dir ther [13:33] yup [13:33] EthanG, Cleve boy! :-D [13:33] alright guys/gals take it easy [13:33] off to English class [13:33] o/ [13:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] lol slobad23, it's happened to me once or twice, just not for a very long time for some reason [13:35] ilker (~ilker@88.241.191.118) joined ##slackware. [13:36] ilker (~ilker@88.241.191.118) left irc: Changing host [13:36] ilker (~ilker@last.fm/user/ilker) joined ##slackware. [13:36] john_dee (~id@95-29-13-247.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:37] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.121.50) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:37] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [13:37] full screen flash hasn't worked for me in ubuntu, fedora or opensuse... it works in Slackware! Woo woo! [13:37] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.121.50) joined ##slackware. [13:37] yeyy [13:38] Slackware 1 - 0 everything else [13:38] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:38] "Slackware supports full screen flash" - not the kind'a marketing feature one expects to see [13:39] :D [13:39] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [13:40] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) joined ##slackware. [13:41] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) joined ##slackware. [13:41] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:43] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) left irc: Client Quit [13:43] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [13:43] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-96-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:43] cmair (~cmair@host248-27-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:45] Kaapa, it's something that I never had on any of the others. Means a lot to me! Who cares about security and stability! I want to be able to watch videos in full screen :-D [13:53] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: take care... [13:53] Wiren (Wiren@mar44-3-82-235-66-69.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [13:58] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:58] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Wiren (lfjs@mar44-3-82-235-66-69.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Wiren- (~Wiren@mar44-3-82-235-66-69.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Wiren (lfjs@mar44-3-82-235-66-69.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:01] Nick change: Wiren- -> Wiren [14:03] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:03] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [14:04] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [14:04] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:04] can i safely remove the lesstif that comes with 13.1 and install openmotif? I need to install citrix apps and it requires motif. [14:05] "Install Slackware today - Enjoy full screen Flash, nothing else comes close" [14:05] hey, ... [14:06] my computer hangs so badly that the alt + sysrq + letters does not work .... [14:06] So I suppose the kernel space is altered, right ? [14:07] anyone here have any experience with machine learning (using näive bayesian algorithms etc.)? [14:07] is the altsysrq stuff enabled? I think you might have to echo something to a file in /proc [14:07] Action: paul424 test [14:08] im going to look through all my logs and search for errors then try to correct them [14:08] lets first start with dmesg [14:08] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:08] dialog[4298]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f46a9caa9be sp 00007fff462f4f40 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f46a9c3b000+16b000] [14:08] i havent a clue what that is?.. [14:09] v3gard, what application? fighting spam? [14:09] have you don't an incomplete upgrade to -current perchance? [14:10] RLa: i'm taking a course in machine learning as part of my msc in cs, and i'm looking for some good litterature on the topic [14:10] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Howdy [14:10] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:11] v3gard, get ai book "ai: modern approach" and google for it, it has lot of example code [14:11] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:11] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-140.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:12] RLa: ty, i'll check that one out [14:13] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:13] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [14:14] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [14:15] my dmesg is filled up with: lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions [14:16] is that anything to worry about? [14:16] you google it yet? [14:16] mixed answers on google [14:16] uhh the sysrq for sure works [14:17] so the kernel must have been ... uhh crapped ... [14:17] my kernel has crashed? :o [14:17] dustybin: no, no I say its ok. [14:17] dustybin: my kernel might have. 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[14:23] of course, that's no guarantee that 32bit will work, but hey [14:24] jeeze there are errors all over my server, im a bad admin :( [14:24] http://codepad.org/Dl8oKDce [14:24] that's it, you're out of the club [14:28] donno what to think about hangs up which stops sysrq ... [14:29] btw is there a way of testing the processor apart memory - memtest and alu == prime test torture ? [14:29] s/processor/hardware [14:29] RLa (~RL@infdot.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:32] Alright, my anxiety is hiking up now. My SO should be online in about 3 hours. [14:34] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] SO ? [14:34] /topic etc [14:34] significant other [14:34] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Her sweetie [14:34] your so is in /usr/lib [14:35] no /home [14:35] rhisa, you talk to anyone in RL yet? [14:35] libdir, of course [14:40] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [14:40] jbeatty (~jonathan@134.231.214.182) joined ##slackware. [14:40] m00py (~topcat@212.150.147.230) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:42] instead of playing fools with rhisa, you could have helped me ... [14:43] rhisa is more fun [14:44] Skywise, yeah my best friend. Basically just "let it go slowly". [14:44] As for anxiety, just "bare with it". [14:44] nah, don't pussy foot with it [14:44] Well I am going to say "it's over" but I don't want to be rash. [14:44] make a clean break, it won't get better by not dealing with it [14:44] bear with it! [14:45] um, I bet it was "bear with it", not suggesting nudity to cure anxiety ;) [14:45] Oh. [14:45] http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Would_you_say_bare_with_us_or_bear_with_us [14:45] Heh. >.> Sorry. [14:46] rhisa: (from last night) no, we don't live with constant anxiety, but the stalking is something we have to think about a lot. [14:46] ashe (~ashe@125.166.163.15) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:46] rob0, did you ever call the police? [14:46] sure [14:46] hmm stalkers in here ? [14:46] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Action: paul424 pokes five with rhisa [14:46] Hey... there have been a few times with Slackware that it just decides to stop opening anything new. Now for example, I can't open anything at all [14:46] we must exchange the experience :D [14:47] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BF13F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] What does "can't open anything" mean? [14:47] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:47] you mean terminals ? [14:47] ashe (~ashe@125.166.188.238) joined ##slackware. [14:47] It means that I can't open any applications through alt+f2, I can't open any applications by clicking on them through the K launcher... [14:48] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [14:48] Anything == Any Application [14:49] paul424, what's "poke five"? [14:49] Well.. it seems to have sorted itself out. Lasted for several minutes though. Any ideas what might cause something like that? [14:49] Ctrl+Alt+FX gets you to a terminal okay? [14:49] slobad23, hm, what was the last thing you did? It doesn't happen on its own for no reason. [14:49] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BF13F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] Roin (~florian@p5B2BEDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:49] slobad23, system lag. [14:49] The last thing I did was to run the virtualbox-ose slackbuild script [14:50] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:50] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF13F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] It didnt open up all the things I asked it to in the mean time and the script had finished when I was trying to open applications [14:51] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [14:51] slobad23, if it's fixed it's fixed. [14:51] adaptr: why is that not good? [14:52] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:52] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.206.79) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:52] because it's a core system library! [14:52] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:52] segfaults in glibc can generally be pretty weel defined as Not Good [14:52] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:52] you may have some bad disk sectors [14:52] check your disk [14:53] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [14:53] adaptr: how ? [14:54] hum ? that was for dustybin [14:54] never mind ... would like to know as well ... [14:54] he has segfaults in glibc in his syslog. UNGOOD [14:54] points to bad disk [14:54] or memory issues [14:55] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:55] Hope you have backup, better start shopping on newegg.com. :) [14:56] rhisa is probably sponsored by newegg [14:57] lee_ (~lee__@wsip-24-249-195-93.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] xD [14:57] Sec. [14:57] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: rhisa [14:57] SW 13.x have Java 5 installed? [14:57] suppose java 6 or higher [14:57] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [14:58] how would you check? [14:58] bash-4.1$ java -version [14:58] java version "1.6.0_20" [14:58] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-142-138.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02) [14:58] Channel flood from adaptr -- kicking [14:58] Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode) [14:58] adaptr kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:58] thanks. [14:58] Careful admboom . [14:58] Erm careful adaptr. [14:58] he's not back yet [14:58] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Doh. [14:58] that's how yo udo it! [14:59] java isn't in path .. [14:59] you shoudl enable auto-rejoin [14:59] We should just make it a ban. Damn flooders! [14:59] Careful adaptr. [14:59] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:59] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:59] hehe [15:00] Oh yeah rob0?! I can still spam the channel. Watch this! [15:00] dun flud, k thx [15:00] rhisa: what for ? [15:00] http://pastebin.com/4qyUgUxM Hah! [15:00] lee_: did you install jre ? [15:01] adaptr, for flooding. :] [15:01] why ? [15:01] adaptr: at this point I don't remember .. it's been a minute .. did the install when 13.0 was released. [15:01] You were kicked. :| [15:01] rhisa: I did notice that [15:01] Action: rob0 kicks adaptr again [15:02] you're deriving way too much fun from that [15:02] adaptr: 1 x Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz i5 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V [15:03] Motherboard: 4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets supporting up to 16 GB of system memory [15:03] A matter of perspective. I think the fun is Just Right. [15:03] thats what i have [15:03] dustybin: you have i5 memory with an i3 CPU ? [15:03] bad boy! [15:03] oh dear is that not good [15:04] um, it's irrelevant, there is no "i5 memory" - kingston is selling crap [15:04] memory is memory [15:04] jeeze you had me worried then [15:04] I know ;) [15:04] adaptr: that was the reason for the question to see if it was installed .. is there a normal default location for it, *if* it's was installed? [15:04] I need a bit of fun too [15:04] Crucial is crap too [15:05] I had 3 sticks go bad [15:05] which java: /usr/lib64/java/bin/java [15:05] The last one was a recplacement for one of the earlier bad sticks. [15:05] padhu (~padhu@175.40.48.233) left irc: Quit: going to bed............. [15:08] dustybin (~dustybin@78-86-171-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: No route to host [15:08] paul424_ (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [15:09] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:09] Nick change: paul424_ -> paul424 [15:10] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:12] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-142-138.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:16] trying to build barry from SBo, it was unable to find libusb.pc so I linked libusb-1.0.pc to libusb.pc - then after that it complains of not finding usb.h. Any ideas on what to do next? [15:17] dustybin (~dustybin@78-86-171-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:18] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:19] mag0o, ls /var/log/packages/tcpdump* ? [15:20] /var/log/packages/tcpdump-4.0.0-x86_64-2 [15:20] actually, which libusb do you have ? [15:20] josemanuel (~josemanue@119.252.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:20] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:20] /var/log/packages/libusb-1.0.8-x86_64-1 [15:20] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [15:22] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.121.50) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:22] john_dee (~id@95-29-13-247.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:23] 13.1 [15:23] hum, that should provide /usr/include/usb.h :( [15:23] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [15:24] jaminja_ (~jaminja@95.211.4.12) joined ##slackware. [15:24] john_dee (~id@95-29-8-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:24] try symlink from usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h to /usr/include/usb.h ? [15:24] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:24] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:25] let's see what that does [15:25] no java .. thanks .. now what's the easy method to install it? :) [15:26] mag0o, odd, it seems that both should exist - try that though [15:26] didn't work [15:26] well, that got me past the usb.h part [15:26] but the build still failed [15:27] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [15:27] you're actually on -current, not 13.1 no? [15:27] actually yes, now that i look [15:27] between the laptop and desktops i forget which is which [15:28] ok, libusb 1.0.6 had /usr/include/usb.h , perhaps it's not in 1.0.8 ? [15:28] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:28] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:29] nope, no usb.h in 1.0.8 [15:29] anyone? Best / easiest method to install Java on a SW13.x box? [15:30] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:30] jre is installed by default [15:30] thrice: not found using which .. [15:31] look for yourself in /var/log/packages/ :) [15:31] lee_: both jre and jdk are installed on a full install. you Did Something Wrong [15:31] don't think I disabled it .. it's been a while. [15:31] but I'm sure it's possible. [15:31] jdk isn't by default, but it is in extra/ [15:32] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:32] lee_: you're still arguing. stop arguing, start providing proof that it's not there, has never been installed [15:32] lee_, ls /var/log/packages/jre* [15:32] thrice`: true, not installed, but still on the DVD. in the official package set. [15:35] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:37] thrice`: there is a jre-6u16-i586-1 folder [15:37] "folder"? [15:37] I stand corrected. [15:37] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [15:38] not a directory or folder .. so I'm assuming a binary [15:38] package mame [15:38] name [15:38] In /var/log/packages/ it is text. [15:38] less jre- [15:38] sorry [15:39] the file in /var/log/packages is a manifest, of sorts. [15:39] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-2.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] looking it it, it appears that it was installed .. [15:39] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:39] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:39] btw, update 16 is quite old, you should be on 21 [15:39] but there is no "which" found for java and java does not launch from cli [15:40] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.63.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:40] lee_: locate java |grep bin [15:41] /usr/lib/java/bin/java ? [15:41] a long list, but /usr/lib/java/bin is within it [15:41] i am saying type that line [15:41] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [15:41] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [15:41] then you should get java's cli help [15:42] ding [15:42] java version "1.6.0_16" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_16-b01) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.2-b01, mixed mode, sharing) [15:42] basically you would want to do something like: /usr/lib/java/bin/java -jar /path/to/jarfile [15:42] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Changing host [15:42] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [15:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [15:43] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [15:43] I don't think I have upgraded 13.1, and 6.0 v20 is definitely in it. v16 sounds way too old to be stock 13.1 [15:44] upgrade 16 sounds 12.x-ish [15:44] hmm .. the app I wanted to install require java 5 or greater, this distro is supposed to have 6? - but the ../java -version reports 1.6.x? [15:44] that 6 in 1.6.0_16 is the java version :) [15:45] lee_: nice , no prob :) [15:45] seems a little old for the last version I ran which was 10 [15:45] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.136) joined ##slackware. [15:45] so you have java 6, update 16 [15:45] which is definitely not 13.1 [15:45] so I'm good to go - Thank you guys very much .. saved me much time! [15:46] lee_: you may want to slackpkg upgrade-all && slackpkg install-new [15:46] adaptr: I'm pretty sure I upgraded to 13 a while ago .. anyway to confirm that while I'm thinking of it? [15:46] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:46] lee_: 13 != 13.1 !!! [15:46] you SAID "13.1" [15:46] oh .. I didn't think I ever said 13.1 [15:46] that's a very specific version [15:46] cat /etc/slackware-version [15:47] [20:54:02] SW 13.x have Java 5 installed? [15:47] lee, these are simple re-packagings of sun (cough oracle) binaries [15:47] you don't say "13.x" unless you're talking about 13 BIGGER THAN 0 [15:47] we have 13, and 13.1 [15:47] there is no 13.0 [15:47] so you can grab 13.1's txz and upradepkg without breaking anything (i think) [15:47] sure, but I would first run upgrade-all to do glibc (at least) [15:47] why? [15:48] because it wil lbe newer, and java builds on glibc [15:48] java was not build by pat, that is the point i was making. [15:48] (everything builds on glibc) [15:48] oh, you mean it's a repackage ? [15:48] it is not. Hotspot is not the Sun JRE [15:48] that is what i said! [15:48] hotspot os FLOSS [15:48] *is [15:48] sorry about that adaptr, my mistake [15:48] pat would not package proprietary code [15:49] lee_: never mind, all solved ;) [15:49] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:49] adaptr, i have no idea what you're talkign about [15:49] if any of you guys are bored, would you mind seeing if you can get this python based blog working, it requires no db and is easy to setup (so it says..) http://23.fi/kukkaisvoima/ [15:50] oh, that's what they call it now ? [15:50] I thought that was what the openjdk used... [15:50] never mind me then [15:51] dustybin: those instructions are fail. the file is called latest.tar.gz. [15:51] unpacking kukkawakkajawakka.something is not going to work [15:52] adaptr: i am using latest [15:56] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:57] ramiroec (c86c8823@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.108.136.35) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:58] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [15:59] jaminja_ (~jaminja@95.211.4.12) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:00] dustybin: 5 minutes, including settig up apache on this box. [16:01] maybe 10 total, then [16:01] dustybin: was there a point to that excercise ? [16:02] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:04] adaptr: my vhost settings were wrong!!!!!! [16:04] i got it working :D [16:05] latemus (~harpo@72.8.65.180) joined ##slackware. [16:05] this is the same as wordpress, but 100000x smaller :D [16:05] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-78-222.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:05] Thanks again guys! [16:06] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [16:07] np [16:10] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Mowah (~Mowah@c-1c8ae555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:10] KaMii: did you get multilib working? [16:11] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:11] jkwood (~jkwood@2001:470:1f0e:d2::2) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:11] I did ! [16:12] adaptr: Could you help give me a walk through. I need to get it going on my system. [16:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [16:13] Is my explanation on my Wiki page too difficult for you fortunev? [16:13] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [16:13] im dling the 13.1 folder from alien/multilib now [16:13] It is nothing more but upgrading some packages and adding several other [16:13] That is all you need [16:14] josemanuel (~josemanue@119.252.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [16:14] Mowah (~Mowah@c-1c8ae555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:14] so upgradepkgpkg --reinstall --install-new after the dl, and Im set? [16:14] fortunev: alien's walkthrough is exactly what you should do [16:15] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib#the_quick_n_dirty_instructions [16:15] fuzzix: not unless you also blacklisted the replaced libraries [16:15] bah [16:15] fortunev: ^^^ [16:15] tut tut, no need to be so disappointed [16:15] DON'T run upgrade-all without blacklisting the compats! [16:15] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:15] just dont want to end up with a brick [16:15] no chance of that [16:16] adaptr: he is not talking about using slackpkg, no need for the excitement [16:16] wel, okay, small chance of that [16:16] alienBOB: I'm always excited! [16:16] Please read the command he wants to use, it is exactly right [16:16] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [16:16] alienBOB: upgradepkg doesn't blow away your custom packages ? that sounds unlikely [16:17] upgradepkg only touches what you tell it to [16:17] in my simple mind, upgradepkg would do the exact same thing that slackpkg upgrade would do [16:17] And indeed, he has to use upgradepkg to upgrade to the multilib versions of gcc and glibc [16:17] yes but he's not naming any packages [16:17] the bit about having the 32bit slackware tree. do I need to create that tree? [16:18] adaptr: "slackpkg upgrade-all" is a fully automated upgrade command. While upgradepkg leaves _you_ in command [16:18] fortunev: after the download you will already have that tree, in slackware64-compat32 [16:18] I did all the work for you [16:19] fortunev: you need to have access to it - from a DVD, or a URL (from 13.1 onwards), or do what I did - wget the compats from alien's site :) [16:19] Well that directory will even have all the converted packages for you, is what I meant to say [16:19] it saves you building glib et al - could be an hour or more [16:19] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:19] No need to fetch a slackware32 package tree [16:19] wget in progress as we speak [16:19] (about 5 hours on my dual celeron, probably) [16:19] You can use rsync actually if you want [16:20] I find wget way too cumbersome [16:20] I probably should have done that the first time :$ [16:20] wget is okay for the first time, but rsync ever after. [16:20] Get it from rsync://slackware.org.uk/people/alien/multilib/13.1 [16:21] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [16:21] Action: adaptr makes note: wget -np is really not optional [16:21] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.136) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:21] lftp is much better than wget anyway [16:21] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:21] For mirroring whole directory trees [16:21] probably should have used rsync [16:21] wget is just a handy fast request tool - although you're definitely going to say curl is better for that, too [16:21] latemus (~harpo@72.8.65.180) left irc: Read error: No route to host [16:22] fortunev: if you didn't specify -np for wget, yes, you're going to recurse the entire site [16:22] so just to keep the trend of stupid questions going, I only need the 13.1/ folder? [16:22] arrrg [16:22] Action: fortunev killing wget [16:22] Action: mag0o just rebuild amarok-2.3.1 from -current for my system and the ipod touch integrates nicely :) [16:22] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:23] fortunev: don't feel bad, I did that first as well. I won't again, though [16:23] Action: adaptr wgets the_internet with infinite recursion. I have disk space. [16:23] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Heh. [16:24] hi [16:25] fortunev: the 13.1 folder contains: multilib versions of gcc and glibc packages; the compat32-tools package I created; and a set of "compat32" packages which are basically re-packaged slackware32 packages, and which create your 32-bit software library layer, to be used by future 32-bit programs like wine [16:25] what do I use to record sound? [16:25] Don't be scared, nothing you do will be irreversible [16:25] Buggaboo: use a sound recording tool [16:26] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:26] any suggestions? [16:26] i hate being a noob! never rsync'd beyond my own network sync -r ftp://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.1 ./ [16:26] is that correct [16:27] and thats rsync [16:27] rsync -avz ftp:... ./ [16:27] k [16:27] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:27] you want an rsync url [16:27] o wait, I think that's local. [16:27] Buggaboo: Audacity [16:27] fortunev: I gave you the rsync URL just before [16:28] Look up [16:28] I just want to test my jack input. [16:28] Get it from rsync://slackware.org.uk/people/alien/multilib/13.1 [16:28] thks [16:28] Buggaboo: Kopete? [16:28] it'd be well worth the trouble to bittorrent that compat32 stuff out there. [16:29] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. 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Thought it was gona be a ton more [16:36] hexhawk (~hawk@unaffiliated/hexhawk) joined ##slackware. [16:36] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:36] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [16:38] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [16:38] dustybin: I saw a web page. my interest ended there [16:39] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-140-196.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [16:45] jaminja_ (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. [16:45] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:47] jbeatty (jonathan@134.231.214.182) left ##slackware. [16:48] spectre (kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [16:48] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:49] alienBOB: i need to also install the pkgs in slackware64-compat32. is that correct? [16:49] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:52] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:55] fortunev: "also" ? those are the ones you need. [16:55] the multilib ones aren't 188MB. the compats are [16:56] m00p (~topcat@buttonmoon.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:57] it was a silly question.... [16:58] nonono,, don't be silly [16:58] only istall the compiler stuff. [16:58] Nick change: jaminja_ -> jaminja [16:59] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Changing host [16:59] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [17:00] tekzilla (~jon@d099071.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:00] m00p (~topcat@buttonmoon.demon.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:01] all done! thanks for the assit all ;) [17:01] ...but whats all this smoke! [17:01] m00p (~topcat@212.150.147.230) joined ##slackware. [17:03] tekzilla (~jon@d156004.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-220.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] Mowah (~Mowah@c-1c8ae555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:04] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:04] you need to reboot to clear it [17:05] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [17:05] Action: fortunev gasps for air [17:06] Action: fortunev with his last ounce of strength and breath, manages to hit the master clear! [17:08] Action: fortunev collects all the smoke and carefully places it back in the box where it belongs. [17:08] nice job! [17:08] Action: fortunev bows [17:09] now prove that it does something :) run wine, or something [17:10] Action: jeev master clears adaptr [17:10] phhhhaaaa.... [17:10] i guess thats next on the slack-learning-curve. [17:11] I originally started on multilib because I wanted to run wine, because I wanted to play diablo2 [17:11] haven't, so far :$ [17:12] tvants for me [17:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [17:14] ...but im getting terribly behind on my nap time. Ill file a report in the morning. l8r all tks ;) [17:15] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:18] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:19] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:20] ROTFL.. Have a look at this garbage :) http://www.conceivablytech.com/2530/products/microsoft-patents-operating-system-shutdown/ [17:20] Stanto (~Stanto@client-81-105-77-234.lds-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) joined ##slackware. [17:22] adaptr: i got it working, this is awesome, when i use wordpress, my cores can go up to 30% usuage, with this blog they rarely go over 3-4 % [17:22] dustybin: now try supporting 30000 users a day! [17:22] Nick change: gart -> gartt [17:22] LOL: "Terminating graphical user interface (GUI) applications that delay shut down which do not have top level windows." (Duh.. The TOPLEVEL window is the main window). [17:22] adaptr: i will never get that amount of traffic, for me it works [17:23] paul424_ (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Heres the uspto url: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7,788,474.PN.&OS=PN/7,788,474&RS=PN/7,788,474 [17:24] dustybin: but you were comparing it to wordpress [17:24] ok [17:25] am i allowed to change the title of the software and remove who coded it? i want to pretend i have coded this [17:25] Does the firefox from current repo keeps crushing for anyone of you ? [17:26] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:26] dustybin: Its called lamerism. [17:26] Nick change: paul424_ -> paul424 [17:27] paul424: im only joking, i will leave the author link in the code [17:27] huh hope so :D [17:27] _RadioHead (~User@82.114.94.248) joined ##slackware. [17:28] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:30] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:33] http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT128M72S4R75 1 GB SDRAM $229 [17:33] jeebus [17:33] Crucial sux [17:34] Had 3 sticks go bad on me [17:34] crucial? heh they're micron and they dont suck, i've never had them go bad on me [17:35] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:35] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-2.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [17:36] they got good prices but i guess not on sd [17:37] I had 2 go bad and they replaced them then one of the replacemnets just went bad. [17:38] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424114.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:38] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:38] I have only had to replace 2 1gb sticks in all the years I have built computers [17:39] I think I've built two dozen or more [17:39] and these were pretty much DOA, too [17:39] memory tends to be fairly dependable [17:40] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-155.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:42] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Client Quit [17:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [17:43] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_hnije_vskol [17:43] Nick change: xchg_hnije_vskol -> xchg_hnijevskole [17:44] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [17:44] arfon: I have also noticed that their ram reliability has gone down a bit the last 2 years. They used to ship very reliable ram up til about now. Very odd. [17:45] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.131.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [17:46] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF13F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:46] is there a way to resize a image from the terminal ? [17:46] Lab_Rat (~lab_rat@c-24-23-163-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] ie. imagine i want to resize a batch of photos from my camera [17:46] into 72DPI, RGB etc [17:46] convert should do it. [17:46] oh ace, never heard of it [17:47] It's part of the Imagemagick package. [17:47] i was using photoshop before, but its tedious [17:47] ace [17:48] mbrknewy (~mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [17:48] "man convert" [17:49] thanks [17:49] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:50] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.131.50) joined ##slackware. [17:52] wejp (wejp@moon.spacetechnology.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:52] np [17:52] wow someone just got shot at the Discovery Communications Headquaters [17:53] what city [17:53] Silver Spring, Maryland [17:53] kalabas (~vag-kal@ppp-94-66-92-10.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:53] A guy held 3 people hostage and the cops too the guy out [17:55] hi [17:55] Hi kalabas [17:55] howdy [17:56] i am new in linux and all this week trying to install some of them [17:56] YAY kalabas [17:56] Seems someone in salt lake working at a bank got hammered, went to his work and shot one of the banks servers :) [17:57] Razec (~razec@201-92-72-48.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:57] prolly an IIS server [17:57] or exchange [17:57] Yep! [17:57] :) [17:57] but i always i having problem to boot(i am having win 7 already) [17:57] So, what is the problem kalabas ? [17:57] what the best solution for a clean start [17:57] " [17:58] to start with linux first [17:58] and then win7 [17:58] or the opposite [17:58] Clean starts as in, wipe everything or as in add a partition to your machine? [17:58] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:58] OH! [17:58] Install windows first THEN Linux [17:58] wipe [17:59] If you install Linux then windows, windows will wipe the boot record and it won't dual boot (without some magic) [18:00] Just change the default loaded system in the bootloader. It must probably be a Linux bootloader, so you must have linux installed first, then windows. But then youre free to choose what system to start per default. [18:00] Does that answer your question? [18:00] thats the way i start [18:01] win first [18:01] and then slack [18:01] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>%>>>>>>%4 4< n91~fffffffffffffffzssssssssssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaedddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddzr44444444444444444444444444sz``1``112222``22zsas22222222222222x66666xsuC[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[B[B [18:01] okay... [18:01] [B [18:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:01] ~xf9cr5c [18:01] that's cool [18:01] but never manage the dual boot work.. [18:02] 111111111111112drrrrrrf5rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrv 8 ujn [18:02] You probably didn't set LILO up correctly during setup then [18:02] after that i reinstall linux and after linux win7 and now i get disk boot failure [18:02] hello [18:02] You can also overwrite the windows bootloader with grub or lilo and then adjust the linux bootloader to load whatever system you want loaded first. [18:02] anyone know what undeclared function "idsm" in serio.c and something triggered by sparse irq or biosmem corruption config functions? [18:02] %Tttklllllllllm;=p[ 5rt78888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888m54mmm4j~mnn 8~0~99994i0~k999.........................................................................lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloo;;;;;.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;d;;;;;;;;;;; [18:02] Ack, I'd love to stay and help but, it's time to go home.... [18:02] Night all [18:02] night [18:02] Nighty [18:03] rob0: remove your cat from the keyboard or stop drewling! [18:03] sorry, cat on kbd [18:03] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:03] cabla [18:03] lol [18:03] rob0: good guess then [18:03] ehehehhehehe [18:03] :) [18:03] none of my cats are lap cats [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424114.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] what to i turn on off for idsm [18:03] please [18:04] probly is, a screen attached in 2 places. It thought the little netbook looked like a nice bed. [18:04] *problem [18:04] haha [18:04] kittehs <3 [18:04] If i wipe everything and install win7 and the slack should i choose MBR for lilo ? [18:05] kalabas: yeah, here on this netbook lilo can load win7 without a problem and configured itself during the install [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424114.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] har (~AndChat@166.133.144.176) joined ##slackware. [18:05] bosth (~ben@188.59.135.93) joined ##slackware. [18:06] thanks i will try more..:D [18:06] wow [18:06] http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9696 [18:07] forget bloated php gallery software, do it yourself :D [18:07] kalabas: Try this first. Make room for Linux on a partition. Shrink the one you have and create a new one. Boot Linux install and choose that new partition to install on. [18:09] Can someone tell me if a default 32-bit install of 13.1 should support more than 3GB of RAM? [18:09] Or do I have to enable something? [18:10] 1: yes and on No2: no. [18:11] har: some old motherboards didnt recognice more then 2 gigs, maybe thats the issue ? [18:11] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:12] Hopsa: no, Fedora live 64 bit shows it all [18:12] cmair (~cmair@host248-27-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [18:13] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [18:13] har: Did you use slack 64 bits ? [18:13] har: you need a PAE kernel [18:14] and you probably used the PAE kernel provided by fedora [18:14] You'll need to build one on slackware [18:14] "In computing, Physical Address Extension (PAE) is a feature to allow x86 processors to access a physical address space (including random access memory and memory mapped devices) larger than 4 gigabytes." [18:15] So that doesnt seem correct jgeboski [18:15] theseb (~theseb@adsl-99-136-70-164.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Is chroot easiest/best way to put a wall between 2 sets of apps so it is like 2 separate computers? [18:15] jgeboski: so PAE is not installed by default, is that correct? [18:15] har: How much ram have you got btw ? [18:16] Hopsa: 4GB [18:16] Hopsa: no, it's 32 bit Slack [18:17] Use a slackware 64 bit live cd and see if that works... [18:18] Another question(maybe stupid i am just begin to learning) I have a 2gb ram the best choice for swap partition is 4gb or more is better? [18:19] Skywise, I did it but.. I got the worst messages.. "I'll be waiting for you, when you want to come back to me". [18:19] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:19] I did nothing but cry for the last 2-3 hours. [18:19] rob0, ping you too to update on what's going on. [18:19] har: correct [18:19] rhisa, you poor thing, but you know theres another way to look at it [18:19] rhisa, that he's going to give you your space [18:19] har: It should be hard to build it thought [18:20] s/should/shouldn't [18:20] Skywise, I hope so but now is not the time to say "I will be there for you, I will wait for you". [18:20] well, perhaps it could have gone worse ... maybe he will get tired of it [18:21] rhisa, i think its over [18:21] jgeboski: thank you, that's what I needed to know. Someone told me it was installed by default [18:21] probably my question was stupid.. [18:22] har: nope. Just take the source and config from a slackware mirror or DVD and use that or get the source of kernel.org. [18:22] kalabas: 4 would be the best, but more then 500 seems like a waste. [18:22] thanks [18:22] kalabas: np [18:22] Hopsa: why doesn't it sound correct to you? [18:22] kalabas, swap is not a major deal these days, but since disk space is so plentiful I always make big ones. I use my swap partitions for tmpfs for /tmp. [18:23] jgeboski: 4gb should be ok anyhow. [18:23] i see thanks [18:23] jgeboski: okay, thanks [18:23] Hopsa: I'm just telling him what he wanted to know ;) [18:23] has anyone fixed audacity in -current? i didnt have much time to mangle with it [18:24] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:24] jgeboski: Could be due to many things, such as the 32 mobo fw doesnt pass on the correct registers for the ram whilst 64 bit does etc. [18:25] pupit: just recompile it [18:25] my lord, perfect [18:25] http://sourceforge.net/projects/shalbum/ [18:25] http://shalbum.org/ [18:25] Hopsa: you're kind of going off the path now [18:26] jgeboski: My path is my own ;) [18:26] bosth (~ben@188.59.135.93) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:26] Hopsa: huh? [18:26] XGizzmo: i did, lack of libraries [18:26] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-140-196.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: quitter [18:28] jgeboski: you're kind of going off the path now.. [18:29] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:30] pupit: recompile it [18:30] or what XGizzmo said [18:30] pupit, what does lack of libraries mean? missing .so linking means you didn't recompile it :> [18:31] inp (1000@static-71-244-42-15.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] yeah [18:31] Wiren (~Wiren@mar44-3-82-235-66-69.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [18:32] Eric told me to recompile it few days ago, i did. there where invalid paths to libraries. im going to recompile it again now so i could post those errors. p.s. recompiling went well first time [18:32] are you sure you upgraded after rebuilding? [18:33] thrice`: yes [18:35] rworkman: please update links on http://slackware.com/getslack/list.php?country=Serbia instead of '.yu' should be '.rs' [18:36] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [18:37] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:37] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [18:38] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:39] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:39] I did just recompile it [18:39] still failed [18:39] odd [18:42] NaCl: post errors [18:43] har (~AndChat@166.133.144.176) left irc: Quit: Bye [18:43] I think I know why... [18:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [18:43] why? [18:43] pupit: out of my control; sorry [18:43] audacious? [18:43] recompile the plugins too [18:43] rworkman: yeah [18:43] If so, update to 2.4.0 [18:43] And the plugins too [18:43] 2.3.0 plugins won't build [18:43] rworkman: can you pass it on? [18:43] already did [18:43] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:43] argh, ive forgotten how one changes the default desktop environment for X [18:44] gniks: xwmconfig [18:44] pupit: I can/will, but it won't matter. mirrors@ is effectively dead for a while :/ [18:44] thank nacl [18:44] NaCl: you already rebuilt 2.3.0 plugins? They wouldn't build here. Maybe one of my local updates broke them, but 2.4.0 is fine [18:44] naw [18:44] I upgraded [18:45] rebuilding to be sure right now [18:45] Seems like it was a make-3.82 induced error [18:45] did you read the 3.82 changelog? I'm quite surprised pat bumped it :p [18:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] I'm just happy that -current is relatively stable. :P [18:47] hehe [18:47] emphasis on 'relatively' [18:47] thrice`: I didn't personally, but he mentioned that there might be some churn and that we could go ahead and find it :) [18:48] Action: NaCl may install opensuse on one of his machines [18:48] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:49] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:49] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:49] whats a pingable site [18:50] yahoo.com don't ping no more [18:50] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:50] ? [18:50] slackware.com [18:50] this internet is worthless during the day [18:50] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:54] CTCP PING: 1283381541 from mbrknewy (mbrknewy!mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) to ##slackware [18:54] swell [18:54] so he pings the room... [18:55] must be a hohagh user [18:55] ##slackware != slackware.com [18:55] some ppl deserve to have their computers taken away from them [18:55] my damn isp blocks block icmp and is wasting my bandwith retrying web pages [18:56] so dont continue wasting by pinging the room [18:56] whats the harm though? [18:57] you getting kicked? [18:57] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [18:57] if you hate your isp so much, change [18:57] he may not be able to [18:58] its not like we have any control over it [18:59] there are some alternatives [18:59] about all that works right now is irc [18:59] you need more ? [18:59] would be nice to research this kernel error bug [19:00] what is idsm inside of serio.c [19:01] theseb (~theseb@adsl-99-136-70-164.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:01] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [19:01] bnguyen (~chatzilla@210.245.12.48) joined ##slackware. [19:04] did ya grep it ? [19:04] look at the serio docs ? [19:05] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.131.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:07] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.237.186) joined ##slackware. [19:07] adaptr: not yet. [19:07] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [19:08] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] root@slacker:/usr/src/linux# grep -iR idsm ./* [19:08] ./sound/pci/cmipci.c:#define CM_MIDSMP 0x00000010 /* 1/2 interpolation at front end DAC */ [19:09] I don't have that at all [19:10] GArik_ (~wesnoth@93-81-223-225.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [19:11] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:11] Lab_Rat (~lab_rat@c-24-23-163-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [19:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:13] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:13] which script sets last login time? [19:15] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-155.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:15] script ? [19:15] getty reports it from lastlog [19:15] there is no script [19:15] getty/login, one of those [19:15] try last or who or w [19:16] last is what i need [19:16] thank you [19:17] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.174) joined ##slackware. [19:17] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [19:18] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-32.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:21] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [19:22] mbrknewy (~mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:23] mbrknewy (~mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [19:23] password (~maxx@109.188.109.134) joined ##slackware. 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[19:35] i would think you'd want to just word wrap in html [19:35] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Quit: felipe [19:35] mbrknewy (~mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:36] Yeah, I quess I'll have to employ word wrap. [19:37] mshade (~mshade@pool-74-96-245-58.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:41] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:41] The issue being that when I hit col 80, I newline, and then indent, and that creates an unwanted space. [19:43] are you doing this in a 80x24 console? [19:43] No. [19:43] lee_ (lee__@wsip-24-249-195-93.pn.at.cox.net) left ##slackware. [19:43] OCD. [19:44] ah [19:45] Weird0ne (~julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:45] hrm.. [19:46] Slackware 13.1 with perl 5.10.1.. anyone else missing libperl.so? [19:48] dont have it, whats it needed for? [19:48] bah [19:49] DynaLoader.a is no longer exported in perl 5.10.x and above its in libperl.a or libperl.so from what I gather [19:49] I have some perl that's trying to load DynaLoader.. bu tof course.. its not there [19:51] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.208) joined ##slackware. [19:52] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:52] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:53] puffster (puffy@cpe-68-174-62-74.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cpe-68*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:53] puffster kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Annoying yes. Stupid for sure. Tragic ending imminent [19:53] whee! Nice. [19:54] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:54] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [19:57] omg i finally found out how to hotsync my palm pilot [19:57] stupid jpilot and pilot-xfer is wrong [19:58] you have to hit the hotsync button on your palm pilot FIRST, then click the hot sync button on your computer [19:58] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:58] jpilot and pilot-xfer has it backwards [19:58] it wasnt a udev problem, its a really crappy code somewhere probably [19:59] that took toooo many months to figure out [19:59] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:59] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [20:01] metrofox (~metrofox@unaffiliated/metrofox) joined ##slackware. [20:02] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. 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[21:11] any rsync gurus about? [21:12] Anyone remember if rsyncing in-place just copies over changes? [21:14] Kyle__: as opposed to what? [21:14] copying entire file? no. rsync copies only differences [21:14] ananke: When you do the in-place one though? [21:15] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [21:15] what do you mean by 'in-place'? [21:15] hey guys, does anyone use gxine? i am trying to change encoding of the subtitles option and the subtitles in turkish. then, what should I enter into that box? utf-8 did not work. [21:15] by in-place, you mean "to elsewhere on the same filesystem" or something? [21:15] ananke: using the --inplace flag. SO it doesn't create a .blah.XKFDSFJ file when it updates the blah file. [21:16] I would suggest TIAS, experiment with non-essential files. [21:16] Action: ut oohs [21:16] unless you're really short on space, i wouldn't recommend using --inplace [21:17] OK. Just figured someone here may know :) [21:17] The space is close, hence wanting to use --inplace. Not 100% neccesary, but very close to it [21:18] JJJunkk (spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Action: nyRednek needs to find a way to play flv's that are actually viewable on this POS [21:18] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:18] ramiroec (be02c611@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.2.198.17) left irc: Quit: Page closed [21:18] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [21:19] mplayer tells me my machine is too slow, even when i use -hardframedrop [21:19] and vlc doesn't show any video [21:20] mbrknewy (~mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [21:21] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:21] nyRednek: How slow of a machine is it? [21:21] Kyle__: pII, 400mhz [21:22] Makes you want to get out and push. [21:22] nyRednek: Oh wow. You know, it may just be. Are you using fbdev, vesa, or a real graphics driver? [21:22] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:22] Kyle__: using an ati grafx driver [21:23] Kyle__: had to buy a vid card to make the thing useable(original card was toast) [21:23] nyRednek: And what playback method are you using? mplayer -vo xv? [21:23] tried that, tried mplayer -vo sdl, tried several things [21:23] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [21:23] nyRednek: have you tried alternate mplayer video drivers: xv, x11, gl, etc ? [21:24] tried xv, not x11...let me try that real quick [21:24] nyRednek: x11 will be dog slow. [21:24] xv is probably the one you want... Hum. [21:25] nyRednek: are you using cache? [21:25] mplayer -cache 8192 [21:25] something like that. [21:26] Kyle__: not yet [21:26] Kyle__: so xv will be faster than x11? [21:26] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:26] nyRednek: yes. x11 is 100% un-acellerated [21:27] nyRednek: But it will always work. If you have a really fast cpu, and really fast disks, it won't even drop (many) frames. [21:28] well, -cache 8192 -vo xv didn't do much good [21:28] Hum. [21:29] it was stuck on first frame [21:29] audio played, but... [21:29] nyRednek: Well you could more or less pre-process them with mencoder. EG mencoder them to a codec & bitrate your system can handle, then play back the files. [21:29] nyRednek: It's slightly ugly and lengthy, but it would work. [21:30] nyRednek: Of course you'd have to test to see what your best codec&bitrate for yoru system would be. [21:31] i turned off -framedrop, then the thing started moving forward, but lagged behind the audio [21:32] nyRednek: framedrop will do that sometimes unfortunately. More or less it was dropping all but the first frame, in order just to keep up with the audio... kindof what it sounds like. [21:32] nyRednek: you have mencoder? [21:32] Try this: mencoder -ovc copy -oac pcm -frames 300 [your file].flv -o test.avi [21:33] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:33] nyRednek: If it's a 30fps file, you'll get 10 seconds with the same video, but raw audio. See how the system behaves with that (don't framedrop). [21:33] This may be an audio issue. [21:36] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] Kyle__: it plays the audio, and plays at least double the length of the audio [21:37] OK that's weird. [21:37] Action: Kyle__ shrugs [21:37] Sorry I'm too burnt out today to really figure it out. [21:37] -autosync 30 dropped a buttload of frames [21:37] Action: Kyle__ sighs [21:38] Kyle__ (kschmitt@173-165-60-19-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left ##slackware ("I thought computers were supposed to make your life better?"). [21:38] it did an underrun [21:38] at second 10 [21:39] nyRednek: what problem are you having? [21:39] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:39] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:40] in my experience video doesn't really work with any process slower than 800mhz [21:40] JJJunkk (spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:40] processor [21:40] mbrknewy: wanting to play video in sync with audio [21:41] <_herbz> how do u guys open pdf files? [21:42] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [21:42] acroread or xpdf [21:42] _herbz: using evince [21:42] <_herbz> okay thanks [21:42] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:42] okular here [21:43] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:44] GArik_ (~wesnoth@93-81-223-225.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:44] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [21:45] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:47] metrofox (~metrofox@unaffiliated/metrofox) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [21:49] <_herbz> xpdf ftw [21:49] evince [21:49] mbrknewy (~mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:49] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) joined ##slackware. [21:51] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488EF50.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cpe-68*.hvc.res.rr.com expired. [21:54] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cpe-68*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:54] mbrknewy (~mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [21:55] this is crazy. [21:55] somehow in serio.c line 99 got changed from ids->m to idsm> [21:55] just out of nowhere.. everything else seems fine [21:55] wtf [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488F54E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:57] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:58] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:00] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.2.11) joined ##slackware. [22:01] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [22:02] <_herbz> wow ya evince is ftw [22:02] <_herbz> xpdf is on the slackware repo so i thought would be all groovie [22:02] <_herbz> but, evince outperforms xpdf [22:03] anyone ever experience this pheonix bios memory corruption ? [22:11] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:12] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-164-152.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:12] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [22:14] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [22:15] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [22:17] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [22:21] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:22] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [22:27] tino27 (~tino27@52.sub-97-177-216.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. 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Motherboards, especially cheaper ones, have a relatively short lifespan [22:42] i havent seen mouse trails since around 1996 or so [22:43] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:45] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [22:46] has it been that long already? [22:46] maybe its an irq conflict [22:47] Atters (~chatzilla@173-29-39-103.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:48] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:50] irAq hardware sucks [22:50] dell mobo's are famous for going bad [22:50] just had a Dell XPS laptop die last week on me. [22:50] last friggin Dell I'm ever buying. [22:51] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:52] 10 Dell Dimension 2400s, 5 bad mobos inside 6 months, 24-7 4 hour response... yeah right [22:52] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [22:52] http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/01/technology/dell_lawsuit/index.htm [22:53] hehe [22:53] yo [22:53] we tried to "reflow" the solder joints on a dead dell mobo, but it didn't work [22:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:55] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:56] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:56] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-curelezxiwtxhyri) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:56] anyone watch discovery science? was watching a weather program and they scientist was using linux. [22:56] just like any self-respecting scientist would [22:57] heh heh [22:57] awesome [22:57] dang, my ban on OT isn't lifed yet? lulz [22:58] I heard Torvalds caused a riot at NixCon [22:58] Cann0n, what did he do? [22:58] bhah (asshole@easy.and.friendlydrunk.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:59] rhisa: threw a ralley of some sort I suppose [22:59] i don't know details [22:59] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-225.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] fire|bird: yo, that ban in OT ever gonna lift? [23:00] what is OT? [23:00] offtopir [23:00] offtopic* [23:05] Cann0n: you can always come to ##slackerz [23:05] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:06] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:07] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [23:07] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-gsrfkosejgqrblva) joined ##slackware. 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[23:39] yobo- (yobo-@77.49.162.132.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware. [23:43] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:44] Nick change: Xov_Solo -> xovan [23:45] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [23:45] tewmten (tew@gaskammare.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:45] tew (tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [23:45] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: aehhahadhahduhfah [23:45] Nick change: tew -> tewmten [23:45] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-220-154.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-223-229.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:49] why do people who have only used windows and OS X think that "the kernel" should do everything for them? [23:49] UGH [23:51] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:51] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:53] gniks, why do you say that? [23:55] they never had to do anything other than watch the gui [23:55] To that kind of person, "kernel" is an ethereal concept. It's the thing that does all the magic! [23:56] one of my friends is learning slackware and he is upset that he has to mount a disk and it doesn't do it for him [23:57] and he doesn't understand why it can't [23:57] There's nothing wrong with not understanding the workings of a computer and OS. What's wrong is pretending to understand, when you don't! [23:57] and i tell him it can, but he has to configure stuff [23:57] and i just want to smack him [23:57] rob0 exactly [23:59] From my experience, it is best to explain the potential risk of accepting a lack of control for your system. An auto-mounted volume in Win opens you up autorun vulnerabilities, for example. [23:59] i did [23:59] he didn't like the answer [00:00] :p [00:00] --- Thu Sep 2 2010