[00:00] antler: I think i know why you were getting that error yesterday. http://pastebin.ca/1378627 [00:01] omgwtfbbq [00:01] thumbs, i only got 1.5TB raid5 [00:02] nullboy, take freenode off the bbq [00:02] i like homemade deer jerky [00:02] venison is the shit, I miss it [00:02] eviljames: it's not sending me to that iP anymore. o.O [00:02] edman007: http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=162 [00:02] blah blah blah [00:03] i'm not looking :P [00:03] edman007: bah. [00:03] erisco: Do you have smbd and nmbd running? [00:03] yes [00:03] they both are startup [00:03] i'll upgrade to RAID10 sometime, but its expensive [00:03] edman007: Not really. [00:04] Buy one more harddrive, assuming your raid5 is just 3 drives, and you'll have a 10. [00:04] doing a server at work right now though and it is RAID10 [00:04] edman007: Nice, best way to go. [00:04] eviljames: let me make you a pastebin [00:04] edman007: hahah, those are all IDE and sata drives [00:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.34) left irc: No route to host [00:05] agentc0re, no, i would need two more drives to get the same capacity with RAID10 [00:05] http://pastebin.com/m4d0a119c [00:05] at thats $300 extra or so at the time i bought them [00:05] eviljames: birds eat it, ants love it; so you've got to legalize it. <---when will everyone see that peter tosh was right? :P [00:06] antler: Soon, man. It's coming to an end. [00:06] edman007: Well if you're going for the same capacity that's a different story :P What size are your current hd's? [00:06] antler: The Senate recommended in 2002 that we not just decriminalize, but legalize tax and regulate. Next Liberal government will probably pull it off. [00:06] right now i have 4x500GB [00:06] antler: The NDP are putting hardcore pressure for it at the moment too, and for once they actually have a say. [00:06] antler: the "it" aforementioned is prohibition. [00:07] what are we making legal now? [00:07] agentc0re: i noticed in alien's build that liboil is still 3.15 [00:07] edman007: But 1Tb, and you will. [00:07] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] eviljames: wow nice. i haven't been following it closely enough, it seems [00:07] err buy 4x1tb. 1Tb drive only $100 :P [00:07] agentc0re, yea, thats what i'm doing at work...supermicro shipped us a DOA board though.. [00:08] antler: Ya mine bitched at me until i upgraded it. [00:08] edman007: in a raid? [00:08] edman007: Ouch. [00:08] nooper, on my system i got 4x500GB on raid5 [00:08] edman007: For home i have 6 750Gb HD's in raid 10... Well close anyways. Can't get a full strip but it works. [00:08] antler: I'm one of those rare people who can say they are proud of their political representative. [00:08] i wonder if my battery will last to from here to the couch. i gotta unplug [00:08] stripe. [00:09] at work we are building a server, but dumb ass supermicro gave us a board with a dead ram channel (how the feck did that pass?) [00:09] antler: I didn't vote for her, but she's damn wicked in my books: http://libbydavies.ca/blog/2009/03/04/gangs-and-prohibition [00:09] eviljames, i made you a nice pastebin. http://pastebin.com/m4d0a119c =D it's so weird. [00:09] edman007: Thats what you get for buying super micro :P [00:09] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [00:10] erisco: Try using IP [00:10] erisco: \\\\192.168.x.y\\share [00:10] agentc0re, i thought there were good...but the BIOS is shitty as well, and their site says "supports centos 5.2", well centos 5.2 does not have the nic drivers (looks like they got merged in around 2.6.28, and fedora runs something that claims to be 2.6.27 but has the driver) [00:10] eviljames: I'm going to use "/SharedDocs" instead of "C$" from now on for this discussion. [00:11] anyways, looks like we are returing the supermicro and going with an evga gaming board, less problems :) [00:11] erisco: That is bizarre, though. Sounds good. I'll be of much more use tomorrow, when I'm in an environment that has both windows shares and samba shares [00:11] edman007: Super micro is pretty decent, but imo servers are best found at dell/hp. Just for the support reasons really. [00:11] I hate to say it, but Dell ft...w [00:11] Same-day on site [00:12] support meaning, free hardware replacements plus tech will install it for you so you don't have to waste time doing so. [00:12] agentc0re: precisely. [00:12] eviljames++ [00:12] 3 Year support contract included w/ your server is a nice perk, too. [00:12] eviljames: I can't tell you how much that's saved my arse. [00:12] Weird0ne (n=rogue@cpe-98-150-31-77.bak.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:12] 24x7 4hr reponse. [00:12] response. [00:12] yup. [00:12] eviljames: she seems very reasonable and practical. it's always existed; prohibition is no deterrent; educate children and give adults a choice re weed. <---- i think i like it. [00:13] 'it's always existed' <---- drug use [00:13] antler: Totally. I'm a bathed in red Liberal, so I voted on party lines, but my gf voted for Libby. I meet with her every few months just to chat about stuff. [00:13] Everyone should smoke some weed once in a while. Calms you down. [00:13] antler: She's really bright. [00:13] ehh, suppose, but i like the options you get with building it yourself, and where i'm working when i say server i don't mean its going in a datacenter or anything close... [00:14] anyways, i'm going [00:14] edman007: Ya but what happens when that server MB dies on production? [00:14] eviljames: yeah, totally, bright because she doesn't go against intuition and common sense. [00:14] eviljames: It's asking for passwords now, check this one out. http://pastebin.com/m751f66da i'm going to check out line 8. [00:14] You're out for at least a whole day and then some. Hope it's still in stock too and they ship same day with over night. [00:14] agentc0re, in this case its a dev server, so i don't really care [00:15] oh but that adds like $200 to the cost of the MB. [00:15] edman007: So buy a cheep ass server from dell or hp but with the pro's of the replacement support. I dunno. [00:15] erisco: here what is happening is that smbmount is forwarding your username onwards to the server [00:15] eviljames: heh i don't suppose i can vote for her next time :P [00:15] too late now... [00:15] erisco: but you don't have permissino to mount in /mnt/windows :D [00:16] and i'm off [00:16] antler: you can always vote Lib/NDP :D [00:16] Makes sense =D [00:17] deer jerky.... omg [00:17] antler: Both of the left-wing parties are in favour of legalization, but the hardcore lefties (NDP) are much more vocal about it. [00:17] Gore_Vidal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] j0z (n=JESUS@201-66-123-25.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:17] uh oh, calgary in the house! [00:17] iHitEoN (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-1d4cce76450a8ab0) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:17] are we talking about legalizing marijuana? [00:18] cause it's gonna happen [00:18] berkough: hey, that's what I said! [00:18] why would you use $NAME versus ${NAME} ? [00:18] in bash. [00:18] agentc0re: too lazy to press shift-[ [00:19] there's no other reason than that? Do they behave differently? [00:19] eviljames: that's partly why i liked what i read, they know that people from all walks of life enjoy weed. "weed come from the earth, man. it was put here for you and me" --smokey, friday [00:20] agentc0re: I use zsh, so everything behaves differently :D [00:20] you are evil! [00:20] ;) [00:21] weed is pretty harmless, and it could start several industries and re-vitalize others, such as textiles [00:21] not to mention plastics, food, bio-degradable packaging [00:21] i think you're talking about two different things [00:21] hemp = textiles [00:21] fuels (similar to ethenol) [00:21] berkough: there are much better sources for biofuels than hemp. [00:21] weed = smoke [00:22] nullboy: yeah, but at least now we'll have something to DO with the male plants. [00:22] they may be, but I'm saying it would allow for some awesome research [00:22] srn9 (n=bones@24-113-45-244.wavecable.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] there* [00:22] berkough: I make the economic argument in favour of legalization. [00:22] berkough: right now, per year, $6,000,000,000.00 goes to organized crime UNTAXED. [00:23] My fear about weed becoming legal is what would the industry do to it? Would they put all that nasty shit in there like they do tobacco? The answer is yes. [00:23] just off of tax alone in california they are talking $1.6bil, sticktly for recreational use [00:23] berkough: When the Canadian government did studies, they found they could grow it for approximately $.35 / oz, and that was without economy of scale. [00:23] agentc0re but just because they legalize it doesn't immediately kill the black market [00:23] infact it will strengthen it [00:23] No way. [00:23] agentc0re: but fine tobacco does exist, e.g., marlboro [00:23] Weed is not harmless. It can be harmful to those that use it just like any drug. Maybe not harmful to the body, but to the family and socially. [00:23] nullboy: strongly disagree. [00:24] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:24] nullboy: I know that. [00:24] I'm just saying that it will happen. [00:24] agentc0re: So, just like alcohol or nicotine ... [00:24] agentc0re: which we already legalize, regulate and tax. [00:24] agentc0re: oh, and Gambling [00:24] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [00:24] agentc0re: While we're on the topic of "sins" that are "harmful to the family" and other such foolish strawman arguments. [00:24] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Success [00:25] what meats can you eat raw? [00:25] yeah I can't argue against the same arguments that they are for alcohol and tobacco, but I think it would be far better than us paying tax dollars to keep non-violent "criminal" locked up [00:25] Cann0n: lots [00:25] eviljames: Don't take my arguments as i'm against it. I smoke myself. [00:25] Cann0n: almost all fish [00:25] agentc0re: heh, fair enough. [00:25] eviljames: All i'm saying is that it can be abused. My brother does so and he's a fucking train wreck. [00:25] nullboy, thats what i thought about fish. some fish is toxic, etc. [00:26] well and some fish just isn't good to eat raw [00:26] yeah like cod [00:26] lol [00:26] raw catfish [00:26] Beef too. [00:26] Ie: beef carpaccio [00:26] beef = fish? [00:26] (SO GOOD) [00:26] yeah clean beef is safe [00:26] yep. beef. thinly sliced with a twist of lemon. [00:27] agentc0re: ${ } has some uses if your var is followed by a letter/digit/underscore. Plus also in use for the shell string operators [00:27] id imagine as long os its fresh, clean and organic, its fine [00:27] BP{k} may not be the fountain of youth, but he's certainly a fountain of wisdom. [00:27] Cann0n: squid and octopus are fine (properly prepared) [00:27] I'm still on the weed conversation, just have to say that I'm more afraid of eating cloned chicken from KFC than the government legalizing pot [00:28] heh [00:28] berkough: I think you're probably pretty close there [00:28] antler, is there a proper way? [00:28] berkough: is it cloned??? [00:28] agentc0re: And that is true. Some people do abuse substances. That doesn't mean nobody should have access to it. [00:28] berkough: damn i love kfc [00:28] I was on a crusade to eradicate weed from the face of the earth, one bowl at a time, but I gave up [00:28] haha, I'm not sure, but that's what I heard [00:28] eviljames: I agree with you on there. [00:28] agentc0re: Some people abuse heroin, we still use it as medicine. [00:28] i know some octopuses are served live in some asian cultures [00:29] at least here in the US the FDA has approved the sale of cloned meats [00:29] Cann0n: yes, as there is a proper way to prepare sushi [00:29] i wouldn't eat raw chicken [00:29] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-2bd7f0378d447ade) joined ##slackware. [00:29] eviljames: I think all drugs should be legal. Even the most potent ones. Let those fuckers kill themselfs for cheap so we stop spending so much tax money to causes to help them out. [00:29] hax0r1337 (n=hax0r@c-71-201-7-44.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:30] agentc0re: that's going too far :P [00:30] agentc0re: agreed, sorta. [00:30] agentc0re: I think it would have to be accompanied with stronger penalties for property/violent crime though. [00:30] id imagine the proper way is just a health issue as for saling it [00:30] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [00:30] agentc0re, agreed. [00:30] Cann0n: the proper way so that you don't get sick, foo [00:30] agentc0re: like: "You can have your drugs, but if you mess with someone to get them, prepare to go to jail." [00:31] Also, much stronger health programs around addiction treatment/counselling. [00:31] prepare to die. [00:31] The amount of resources available for that is disgustingly low. [00:31] eviljames yeah, violence is an issue, the drugs themselves aren't so much [00:31] XGizzmo: I'm ready. I'll burst into flames any day now. [00:31] Cann0n: Why, you don't like salmonella? [00:31] oh, well yeah, you cant taint the meat with digestive juices, thats all that is. but the actual editable meat is all the same [00:32] berkough: precisely. Going after a plant or powdered leaf resin isn't going after the root problem: addiction, violence etc [00:32] 'prepare to die.' lol wtf [00:32] agentc0re, i wont eat raw chicken. i dont even like chicken honestly [00:32] haha @ nullboy yeah I ignored that comment [00:32] you guys are tripping me out [00:33] lol [00:34] eating raw chicken = die [00:34] that's so nasty [00:34] i would love to catch a salmon and just eat it right away, much like the bears do. damn it looks sooo tasty when they eat them [00:34] i dont find any drugs addicting other than tobacco and ganja [00:34] eviljames said prepare to go to jail. I say prepare to die. you break in my house and out comes da glock. [00:34] raw chicken = slimey (sorta) [00:34] Nick change: SlackNeo -> ArchNeo [00:34] antler: I was out crabbing off Vancouver island, they went from the water alive to a pot on the stove within a half hour [00:35] antler: so good. [00:35] yeah. we have chickens, and ive killed them, plucked, cleaned, grilled and ate all within an hour [00:35] damn, I do love me some crab [00:35] Cann0n: http://www.amazon.com/You-Get-Salmonella/dp/B00167K6NC [00:35] eviljames: no, man. no stove. i think that would be tastier. [00:35] i love sushi [00:35] had Alaskan King Crab like 5-6 years ago... I've never forgotten the experience [00:35] raw salmon is fine [00:36] itwas like food heaven [00:36] Action: agentc0re loves Kompressor! [00:36] antler: raw crabs? Interesting... [00:36] it's good stuff [00:36] it was* [00:36] but not raw chicken [00:36] eviljames: oh, i thought you said salmon :P [00:36] eviljames: crab stove good [00:36] :) [00:36] antler: crab that you just busted in half on the deck of the boat going almost immediately into the pot -> better. [00:36] :D [00:36] salmon is my favorite fish [00:37] i probably wont eat that raw unless i see it alive first [00:37] you might as well use a straw to eat raw crab [00:37] what's all this talk about eating raw food? [00:37] eviljames: i know man. we were in ha long bay last year. fresh fish on the stove. delicious. [00:37] sorry I've had a few drinks, it's hard to keep up with everyone [00:37] antler: awesome. [00:37] those chemical feed critters that get shoved into slaughter house [00:37] hey yea! [00:37] WTF [00:37] i wont eat [00:38] It's 9:30 where's the guy. [00:38] also, berkough thanks for reminding me to pour a rum & coke [00:38] berkough, im feeling good too [00:38] tenlet (n=verso@pool-96-248-113-159.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:38] haha, for sure, you guys are alright [00:38] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:39] i got a headache [00:39] Nick change: ArchNeo -> SlackNeo [00:39] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:40] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:40] Cann0n: when we were in south korea, we had on many occasions fresh octopus--i mean fresh. though cut, the parts were still moving and you could feel it stick to your throat [00:40] i smokedsweet [00:40] lol [00:40] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [00:41] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:41] whoops, half typed a message [00:41] eh, thats cool. ive eaten bugs before [00:41] I do that all the time [00:41] in my sleep [00:41] dull colors and low odors normally mean its good to eat [00:42] motorcycling = bugs in the teeth [00:42] yesterday i had a big one stick on by bottom teeth [00:42] s/by/my [00:42] anyone in chat here shoot pool? [00:42] no [00:42] i hate pool [00:42] berkough: snooker [00:43] berkough: sometimes billiards [00:43] antler: I'm not that hardcore [00:43] snooker is the shit though for sure [00:43] darts are lame too [00:43] i go to pool hauls to watch bar fights [00:43] lol [00:43] I should actually probably practice on a snooker table so I could whoop some serious ass in 8ball [00:44] i like bowling, but i dont have a posse to collaborate with, so i mostly skate around by myself [00:44] berkough: hahah it does make it much, much easier to whoop ass [00:44] last time i played cutthroat rules, i wont dinner [00:45] berkough: my old man has a full-sized snooker table in the basement, with the small pockets. [00:45] berkough: yeah, I get decimated every time I'm over there. [00:45] air hockey [00:45] eviljames: nice! yeah I shoot pool with my Dad every other week, he's a part of this league/corporate challenge for where he works [00:45] thats where its at. [00:46] berkough: but to get good at 8 ball, i suggest that you learn how to play billiards (3 balls; 2 whites and 1 red) [00:46] eviljames: but he learned on a snooker table [00:46] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] antler: yeah I've played pretty much all the variations, 8ball just being the most common [00:47] well... take that back, 8ball, 9ball, snooker (once), and billiards a couple of times [00:47] berkough: you're from the uk? [00:47] not ALL the various [00:47] nah I'm the US, Vegas actually [00:48] lived in LA for like 7 years, lived in upstate NY for a while near Syracuse (like 6-7 years), Iowa for about a year, and I've been here for like 2years now [00:48] i'm in the bastard state of California, which might as well be its own country [00:48] Urchlay (n=urchlay@adsl-223-46-37.aep.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] haha, where abouts in Cali nullboy? [00:48] ventura [00:49] I was in Long Beach specifically, but I say LA because everyone knows Los Angeles [00:49] that's ~100 miles south of me [00:49] well 60 [00:49] Nick change: SlackNeo -> SlackNeo_ [00:50] nullboy: Cali is it's own country. It's the 6th largest economy in the world. [00:50] Nick change: SlackNeo_ -> ArchNeo [00:50] out of control [00:50] Peoples' Republik of Kalifornia? [00:50] heh jesse 'the body' ventura [00:50] (morning people) [00:50] yo Urchlay :) [00:50] haha, Urchlay, it isn't Boston, MA! [00:50] there's around 33 million people in california...and there's about 33million people in ALL of canada [00:51] that's why it's a mess [00:51] Nick change: ArchNeo -> SlackNeo [00:51] antler: That's actually typed Jesse THE BODY Venture. [00:51] LOL http://gamu-toys.info/sonota/sw/obama/obama.html [00:51] nullboy: What? I thought there were closer to 50m in Cali, 30+ being in LA alone [00:51] Obama vs Vader [00:51] haha [00:51] nullboy: There are a few cities out there, like Mexico city, that have populations higher than Canad. [00:51] pft. there are 90 million peeps in vietnam, a country 1/5 the size of alberta [00:51] haha [00:52] i think 2007 it was ~36million [00:52] eviljames: not ventura? i could've sworn.... [00:52] http://picasaweb.google.com/berkough/RandomPicsFromThePhone#5307288839641454450 [00:52] antler: I've grown very used to having 3-4 km^2 per person. I don't think I would like vietnam :D [00:52] my obama action figure isn't nearly as cool [00:53] eviljames: it's chaotic there. in most respects. [00:53] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-010-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] eviljames: people live far enough apart that each house has its own cellular tower? [00:53] that actually sounds good to me [00:53] you know what i need to film for everyone? the 405-101 interchange in north hollywood at 5:30PM [00:53] then it will all make sense [00:53] eviljames: it is ventura. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura [00:54] Urchlay: heh, population isn't spread uniformly, unfortunately. [00:54] antler: oh hahaha that was a typeo. [00:54] nullboy: can it be worse than the i-285/ga400 mess in Atlanta? [00:54] probably [00:54] antler: I wanted to emphasize THE BODY. [00:54] this is one of the 3 worst interchanges in the world [00:54] eviljames: yeah, said as only he could say it :D [00:54] death, decay, mayhem [00:55] decay? hahah wtf [00:55] when you see it' you'll crap bricks [00:56] 1.Los AngelesUS-101US-101 (Ventura Fwy) at I-405 Interchange318,00027,144 [00:56] http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0931285.html [00:56] nullboy: or the 101 going into downtown LA where it meets the 405 and the 91 at rush hour [00:56] berkough: yes exactly [00:56] nullboy: REAL exciting [00:56] lol [00:56] still feel like I've been betrayed. Everyone in 1985 knew that in the 21st century we'd all have flying cars [00:57] where's my damn flying car?! [00:57] 318K cars per day [00:57] through the 405/101 [00:57] Urchlay: seriously.... fucking Back to the Future lied to us [00:57] that's wrong [00:57] D/c [00:57] bah [00:58] also Blade Runner, Heaavy Metal, etc [00:59] nullboy: wtf, that city is way too crowded. Kick some people out [00:59] one of these days... although considering automobile accidents are like 3rd on the list of things that cause preventable death next to smoking and eating [00:59] Urchlay: heh just watched 'back to the future ii' with the wife this evening. flying cars and busy highways in the sky [00:59] I'm not sure I want be flying in a car [01:00] eviljames /me is headed back to LA this summer to work lol [01:01] hah, nope. [01:01] Not annymore. Nullboy won't allow it. [01:02] no one else can come here [01:02] it's closed [01:02] Haha, damn... and to think I was going to be working for moveon.org too [01:02] Isn't that a gay porn association? [01:02] Ohhhh [01:02] nah, just super liberal [01:02] THAT moveon.org [01:02] HAHA [01:02] lol [01:03] berkough: As an American, your "liberal" and "left" is our (Canada)'s "omfg fascist" [01:03] hehe [01:04] eviljames: yeah I got into a conversation with this guy in a bar from Canada... it was interesting [01:04] you guys don't really like talking political affiliation, or at least he didn't seem to want to [01:04] srn9 (n=bones@24-113-45-244.wavecable.com) left ##slackware. [01:04] Probably because there are 2 types of political conversation in Canada: informed and completely ignorant. [01:04] 40+% don't vote. [01:05] because 40+% don't even know when voting day is supposed to be. [01:05] eviljames: wow, I did not know that [01:05] lol, nice [01:05] The completely ignorant simply do not engage in politics. They seem to trust the informed to duke it out in their ivory towers or wahtever [01:05] It's worked pretty well so far. We're the strongest economically in the world at the moment, have universal health care, cheap world class education ,etc etc. [01:06] eviljames: you're in Alberta though right? [01:06] Overall, I'm fine with it too. Republicans are what happen when the completely ignorant get involved ;) [01:06] that's awesome though, fuck it, for only 60% deciding for the rest what happens at least you have socialized medicine [01:06] we're still working on that one [01:06] nullboy: was, for 20 years. Moved to Vancouver 2 years ago. [01:06] Alberta is the richest province in Canada [01:06] That's a bit of a misnomer. [01:06] oil money [01:07] And not really accurate at all. [01:07] nullboy: It's shades of grey, really. [01:07] then what is the Albeeta trust fund all about? [01:08] yeah, Alberta has 0 debt, lots of money tucked away, 0 deficits, 0 sales tax, virtually no income tax [01:08] damn, I'm moving to Canada [01:08] It's probably one of the many oil company padded slush funds that the corrupt-ass Albertan politicians use for vacatoin money. [01:08] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:08] problem is, there is NOTHING to do in Alberta. [01:09] well whil ei was up there it sure didn't seem like they were piddling it away [01:09] all i was was construction [01:09] They've been trying to privatize medicine there for years and years. [01:09] my brother lives in Edmonton [01:09] thumbs: I livedin Edmonton, and I agree. [01:09] thumbs: how's he like it? I could always be an Oilers fan [01:09] thumbs: The typical friday night is go to whyte ave, get drunk, get in a fight, go home, repeat. [01:09] eviljames: hahaha [01:09] GOilers!@# [01:09] btw [01:09] exactly [01:10] wish I could do that at least once in a while [01:10] whyte ave in old strathcona [01:10] lovely! [01:10] you know it. Whyte = awesome. [01:10] eviljames: I'm a Ducks fan right now, sucks that Kariya left [01:10] Filthy McNasty's is possibly one of the most fun bars I've ever been to. [01:10] every bar fight in atlanta results in someone going to jail [01:10] eviljames: yes, whyte ave [01:10] dang guys small world [01:10] eviljames: I went out to a few places [01:10] Anybody remember the Canada day riot on Whyte ave a few years ago? [01:10] then they want to give you "anger management classes" and force you to join alcoholics anonymous [01:10] berkough: he always was. Gretzky. [01:11] Friend of mine started that by ripping a cement ashcan off the street and putting it through a window. [01:11] thumbs: lol [01:11] man [01:11] thumbs: As long as you went to Blues on Whyte and the Old Strat hotel, you had a good night on Whyte :D [01:11] hockey seriously makes american Football looks like a pussy sport [01:11] Man. [01:11] american football *is* a pussy sport [01:11] eviljames: I did go to the Old Strat [01:11] hockey makes most sports look pussy [01:11] nullboy: this is true [01:12] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:12] football is more strategic than a contact sport [01:12] thumbs: Lights on, terrible music, CHEAP beer ($8.00 jugs), it is trashy as hell in there. [01:12] thumbs: That's why I love it :D [01:12] You guys, srsly, come to Canada. [01:12] let 'em play without pads, and require them to drink lots of booze between plays, and maybe it'd be interesting [01:12] Cann0n: that's why they only play 16 games... sure. [01:12] We'll show you some good sports. [01:12] i dont think you need to be big and strong to be a football player [01:12] Hockey is the tip of the iceberg. Lacrosse is wicked fun. [01:12] and Curling for the hangover days. [01:13] eviljames: I spent 60$ on beer the whole night - and I was trashed [01:13] lacrosse is more dangerous that football [01:13] eviljames: had some exposure to Lacrosse in upstate NY, pretty fucking cool [01:13] Cann0n: nor hockey. Hockey is like strategic football at 180MPH. [01:13] Cann0n: on skates [01:13] Cann0n: with 5x the violence :D [01:13] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:13] agreed :) [01:14] thumbs: yea! So good. [01:14] eviljames: I got 3-4 pints, then a pitcher, and another one [01:14] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:14] man, I didn't realize I had such an affinity for Edmonton... I had to get the hell out. [01:14] i think the only sports that can make hockey look pussy are pylon racing naked spear fishing [01:14] eviljames: wouldn't happen to be Irish would you? [01:14] i had a few bloody marys [01:14] berkough: g/f is Belfast irish, actually. I'm of Irish descent on all sides of my family, but I'm like 6th generation Canadian. [01:14] Cann0n: sorry dude, this is Canada time..it's called a Ceasar [01:15] berkough: So, technically no. [01:15] eviljames: then we went to see a live death metal show [01:15] nullboy, really? [01:15] thumbs: Sweet! Dead Jesus? (I hope so...) [01:15] for real! [01:15] Cann0n: yeah, we call 'em ceasars [01:15] 'tis true. [01:15] ;) [01:15] nullboy, my sister was born in Newfoundland [01:15] eviljames: I can't recall the name of the club. It was upstrairs, with a stage, and bands back to back [01:15] eviljames: lol, it's all good man, I'm Irish-American, I'm gonna start calling you EvilSeanmus [01:15] Cann0n: so you're a noofy [01:15] apparently I'm going to see Napalm Death in a couple weeks [01:16] eviljames: some bands were *terrible* [01:16] thumbs: Probably Black Dog or Filthy McNasty's. Did it have a patio? [01:16] not really. my dad was in the navy [01:16] ah [01:16] eviljames: no [01:16] nullboy: Newfie. [01:16] do they count as real death metal? [01:16] haha [01:16] nullboy: get it right [01:16] Urchlay: They're grindcore. [01:16] damn [01:16] what to you think of londboarding (skate) [01:17] if i could find a decent tech job in edmonton i'd move [01:17] but i'd need to get better clothes [01:17] heh [01:17] There aren't many tech jobs in Edmonton [01:17] and it gets to -40 regularly. [01:17] yeah [01:17] So think twice before that move. [01:17] no, -5. [01:17] -50 rather [01:17] that's harsh for me [01:17] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] But you could work for the dudes who made that game [01:17] the -3 days were harsh for me [01:17] can't remember what it was, but it was friggen huge. [01:18] http://www.instructables.com/id/Longboarding-what-is-it/ [01:18] Cann0n: o pls [01:18] helps if you are a member to see it all with ease [01:18] nullboy: http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/jobs/edmonton_jobs/ [01:18] i live in a beach town [01:18] the videos are what im painting at [01:18] eviljames: my bro works for an environment company. [01:18] eviljames: it's pretty big there [01:19] eviljames: i always slurk craigslist for edmonton jobs [01:19] nullboy: where are you now? [01:19] it would be easy for me to move since i hold dually [01:19] oh, nm [01:19] thumbs: california [01:19] nullboy: hahaha [01:19] yeah no shit huh [01:19] el og el [01:19] nullboy: that would be a slap in the face [01:19] i was there two weeks ago [01:20] it was a punch in the face [01:20] welcome to Canada. [01:20] i stood on a frozen freaking river...wtf [01:20] what? [01:20] so? [01:20] I take snowmbiles across the lake all the time [01:20] and quads for that matter. [01:20] that's not osmehting you do in SoCal..ever. [01:20] Snowmobiling? [01:20] I hope not [01:20] we take that for granted [01:21] skating on lakes is great [01:21] we drove to athabasca [01:21] nullboy: so did I [01:21] you're right, I think. [01:21] nullboy: I have pictures from that fall [01:21] There was a cold snap in Van a while ago, and false creek froze over. IT was big news, I couldn't figure out wtf was the big deal. [01:21] thumbs: dang, i was there in october too [01:22] I was there in September last year. [01:22] Turns out they were worried the ferries were going to have their hulls punctured by the ice [01:22] just missed! [01:22] yeah. [01:22] thumbs: are you in cali as well, then? [01:22] no, Montreal. [01:22] Action: eviljames is super jealous now [01:22] I like Edmonton, love Vancouver [01:22] MTL beats EDM, hands down [01:22] but Montreal... wow. [01:23] Absolutely. [01:23] Les Habitants F T W [01:23] well, not lately. [01:23] but you know what I mean. [01:23] oh the hockey team sucks [01:23] but the restaurants and the women rock [01:23] Whoa. [01:23] The Canadians do not suck. [01:23] damn, I'm so out of this conversation [01:23] Action: eviljames is a dedicated habs fan. [01:23] eviljames: Sens here [01:24] eviljames: then again, I grew up in Ottawa [01:24] hahah [01:24] Fair enough. [01:24] berkough: This is what happens when Canucks are allowed to dominate conversations. [01:24] LOL 3yr old singing Hey Jude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgrrQwLdME8&feature=rec-HM-farside_rn [01:25] LOL [01:25] berkough: Hockey, booze, weed, and having a good time. [01:25] HAHHAHAH [01:25] eviljames: we do have a strong character, do we? [01:25] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.142.136.208) joined ##slackware. [01:25] thumbs: Most Canadians, I find, are all about having a good time. [01:25] I agree [01:25] thumbs: that, and POGG [01:25] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:25] :) [01:25] (POGG = Peace, Order and Good Governance for you yanks, eh?) [01:25] eviljames: haha, it's all good, I just had the homie hit me up on aim and then I realized that you guys were suddenly involved in something that i had no idea about [01:26] or should I say... "Aboot"? [01:26] berkough: don't [01:26] nah maybe that's mean [01:26] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] lol [01:26] Aboot is an east coast thing [01:26] we pronounce 'about' [01:26] I'm from western Canada. Rivalry. [01:26] and all. [01:26] nice, I'll keep that in mind [01:26] fucking degrassi [01:26] the i am Canadian poem damn it [01:26] eviljames: far far east coast [01:27] I try not to do it online much, but in real life I say "Eh" all the time. [01:27] eviljames: my buddies and I from Ottawa don't talk like that [01:27] thumbs: Oh, I know. hence, east coast. [01:27] thumbs: Montreal wouldn't either. Just those newfs/nb/pei folk [01:27] yeah [01:27] eh. [01:28] I use eh as a question, most of the time. [01:28] Are you like me, eh? Where we can't help but bust it out regularly, eh? oh yea. [01:28] gotta make sure that our reputation is respected. [01:28] Russel Peters has a great bunch of jabs at the Canadian accent. [01:29] they actually expect us to talk like that [01:29] The donkey thing is flawless. So unbelievably true. [01:29] though he could have just been going on about white people accents. [01:29] at least we don't talk like we have a sock in our mouth... err. [01:29] :) [01:30] hahahaha [01:30] Anybody here know who Russell Peters is? [01:31] the southerners might nor [01:31] Action: eviljames listens to the crickets chirping .... [01:31] s/nor/not/ [01:31] alright everyone, I'm gonna peace out... go smoke a bowl, listen to some Zeppelin and pass the fuck out [01:31] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:31] berkough: Google Russell Peters and watch his comedy. [01:31] berkough: While high it will work even better :D [01:31] lol, alright I'll do that [01:31] He is epic. [01:31] I'm gonna catch you guys on here again though for sure [01:31] "Somebody gonna getta hurt real bad" [01:31] just get on youtube [01:31] same time same rotten channel [01:31] !!! [01:31] peace [01:31] berkough: peace [01:32] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:33] Gore_Vidal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTzvd6VSYMU [01:34] buenas noches companeros canadianses [01:35] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:35] bluejeans (n=bluejean@63.150.132.130) joined ##slackware. [01:37] hey though seriously...wear a helmet [01:37] i fell and cracked my skull and it wasn't even skating. i nearly died in a stupid way [01:38] me_ (n=me_@89.242.145.34) joined ##slackware. [01:39] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [01:39] lol [01:39] i never wear a helmet [01:40] i wear gloves i made with cutting board epoxied to the palms and two fingers [01:40] i was skating tonight with my hard wheels on in the rain... [01:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-254-4-199.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:41] my god... this band is awesome but the only place i can get the music is myspace.... which locks up because of the gayness [01:42] What band/ [01:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] Hello Vegas [01:43] that song that was in that video [01:43] its all youtubed music [01:44] no way to download directly [01:44] tax return time booooiii [01:44] nullboy: thx for the reminder, I have to do my taxes [01:44] I may end up paying $2 or $3 g's this year, not bad. [01:45] i was still in school at the beginning of this year so i'm actually getting a return [01:45] oh, no. [01:45] I'll be getting a return [01:45] it just won't be all of the tax I paid [01:46] Cann0n: I don't know how to place this stylistically, but I enjoy the groove. [01:46] Cann0n: I can't imagine myself listening to it on a day-to-day basis. [01:46] me__ (n=me_@89.242.145.34) joined ##slackware. [01:46] Cann0n: for comparison, I listen to http://www.myspace.com/btm [01:46] i could [01:46] i love reggae and surf music [01:47] Cann0n: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5RZTe81468 [01:47] That's what I listen to [01:47] that drummer is sickeningly good [01:47] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] time to go on my daily walk [01:48] It's a good thing Canadian death metal > *, it makes up for Nickelback [01:48] and Celine Dion [01:49] we are all supposed to walk 10000 steps per day which is about 5 miles... [01:49] because the Montreal death metal scene is impossibly good. [01:49] its loading [01:50] FF not being nice today [01:50] its because i cleaned the laptop and its usd to running 15C more [01:51] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:51] ghfu (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [01:53] me__ (n=me_@89.242.145.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:54] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [01:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T6CeqdSrO4&feature=channel [01:55] me_ (n=me_@89.242.145.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:56] p3biz: man, that guy is crazy as hell... [01:56] there an easy way to rip music from youtube? [01:56] Cann0n: download helper + ffmpeg [01:56] You love Beneath The Massacre that much? Sweet... [01:57] no it wont load [01:57] lame [01:57] there it goes [01:57] vatgas1 (n=val@123.145.41.175) left irc: "Leaving." [01:57] sounds like ghengis Tron [01:57] i cant listen to that stuff lol [01:58] hah [01:58] I was gonna say, considering the intro I hope your speakers were really loud [01:58] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] I'll find something with more melody [01:58] nah lol [01:58] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [01:58] i cant stand that music. to dark [01:59] i listen for the mod, and im never mad or sad [01:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJdKtz3CQNk [01:59] ahh [01:59] Nevermind that link then [01:59] That's another great Canadian band, really melodic, funky timing [01:59] lol [01:59] but DARK [01:59] FF3 is sucking tonight [01:59] Metal-ish, without being insane like btm [02:00] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:00] i like that Hello Vegas shit [02:00] the singer for this band I think has one of the most desolate voices I've heard in ages [02:00] and I love that [02:01] he's pretty much no screaming, just singing his sad, sad little heart out :D [02:01] you heard of Mindless Self Indulgence? [02:01] yup [02:01] Haven't listened to them in ages [02:01] i used to love them [02:01] i saw live them 3 or 4 times [02:01] I got to see Skinny Puppy live [02:01] That was a treat [02:02] Slightly Stoopid? [02:02] downloadhelper.com right? [02:02] dunno, whatever the FF add on is [02:02] heh [02:03] probably exactly the opposite of what you wanted to hear [02:03] oh [02:03] lol [02:03] There're a half dozen or so I think [02:03] yay [02:03] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-2bd7f0378d447ade) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:03] i was on the right page [02:04] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-7092f3e7082a76c6) joined ##slackware. [02:05] wow, much faster than using gawk [02:05] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:05] i love skating [02:07] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [02:07] Do you like sk8 punk? [02:07] if so, my buddy's band: http://www.myspace.com/thisisastandoff [02:07] never heard of them [02:08] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware. [02:08] Cann0n: the speedy melodic semi-punk that's often featured in skate videos [02:08] i lean more toward the surfers than the skaters [02:08] ahh [02:08] oh, nah i dont like punk music [02:08] not anymore. to rapid [02:08] Golden|Wolf (n=digi@99.228.191.16) joined ##slackware. [02:09] Cann0n: I never liked it, but I have a lot of friends that do so I know a bunch of punk bands. [02:09] I think the only common ground we may find is Sublime [02:09] why pay for a domain name to have it redirect you to myspace.... [02:10] if you like sublime, youd like slightly stoopid [02:11] there are tons of white reggae thats good [02:11] just.... i cant remember the names of them lol [02:11] I have a strong dislike for most of that music, Sublime is truly an exception [02:11] smoked way too much in jax beach during that concert [02:14] shit... there is 15 seconds of silences at this mp3 [02:15] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. 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[02:24] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:24] Dominian: seems i rather like arch :-P [02:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:25] hi acidchild [02:25] hello gem_cat [02:25] crazyhors (n=dirk@75.159.68.169) joined ##slackware. [02:26] I have set up a new server and am puzzling thru the new 12.2 slack [02:26] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:26] cool.. [02:26] acidchild: You'll like arch for a week or two [02:26] acidchild: but you'll be back on slack like jack on a rack [02:26] (needed more things that rhymed with slack) [02:27] using arch now [02:27] different [02:28] I had apache running but seem to have defeated it - could it have something to do with the apache user and the fact the documents seem to be owned by root? [02:28] eviljames: haha. [02:29] grab (n=at@82.247.118.210) joined ##slackware. [02:30] grab (n=at@82.247.118.210) left ##slackware. [02:30] Timing cached reads: 2150 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1076.09 MB/sec [02:30] is that on a 10k? [02:30] yeah... is that right? =/ [02:30] uh [02:31] If that's in Megabit, not likely [02:31] If it's in Megabyte, absolutely not [02:31] i just did hdparm -T /dev/sda [02:31] sec, I'll test on my 500g [02:31] and we'll see [02:32] huh [02:32] Timing cached reads: 2336 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1167.42 MB/sec [02:32] I'll have to change my statements [02:32] I have been contradicted by evidence [02:32] so its right? [02:32] or wrong? ;/ [02:32] I'd guess that it's right [02:32] Timing cached reads: 2038 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1018.78 MB/sec [02:32] because my result is very similar [02:32] on my sata drive [02:33] 7200RPM WD [02:33] ah [02:33] It's because this is not a test of the drive [02:33] so what am i gaining from using this loud 10,000 [02:33] It is a test of memory throughput [02:33] mmkay [02:33] This is reading from the cache w/o touching the drive [02:34] argh [02:34] use a small t [02:34] acidchild: james@chimera:~% su -c 'hdparm -t /dev/sda' [02:34] Action: Cann0n goes back to links -g [02:34] Timing buffered disk reads: 242 MB in 3.02 seconds = 80.18 MB/sec [02:34] FF is pure garbage [02:34] it's been doing this all night [02:34] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:35] Timing buffered disk reads: 134 MB in 3.03 seconds = 44.23 MB/sec [02:35] wha?! [02:35] FF doesnt need 85% of my CPU [02:35] so do i need to go change some BIOS settings? [02:35] bluejeans (n=bluejean@63.150.132.130) left ##slackware. [02:35] 2.8 GHz..... [02:35] my bios battery is dead... so i guess its not an optimised settings [02:36] Himari (n=dh@210.245.2.137) joined ##slackware. [02:36] Timing buffered disk reads: 162 MB in 3.01 seconds = 53.74 MB/sec [02:36] even my standard WD is faster [02:36] LOL [02:36] brb reboot [02:36] grab (n=at@82.247.118.210) joined ##slackware. [02:37] acidchild: I'll say [02:37] acidchild: How all your benchmarks could've ended up lower than my $80 500g drive, I'll never know [02:37] duryo (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-72049213787d995b) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [02:37] hm. His unoptimized timing is about 3x the speed of my crappy old laptop [02:37] Urchlay: apologies about my drive then [02:37] heh [02:37] btw, replace your drive they aren't horribly expensive these days. :D [02:38] not sure replacing the drive would help all that much [02:38] maybe would. This thing is IDE, and does support UDMA 100 mode [02:38] Well, my strategy is to just buy one piece every so often. A drive here, a processor there, case there, after a while you have a few bitchin machines. [02:39] that strategy doesn't work so hot with laptops [02:39] foiled again [02:39] nope [02:39] can upgrade the hard drive and maybe add some RAM, that's about it [02:39] My laptop got erm... dropped [02:39] this laptop ran at 80C until i cleaned it [02:39] Most frustratingly, it landed on THE POWER CABLE! [02:39] the laptop is from 2002, it just needs to be replaced [02:39] i got 53.12 MB/sec on a 2.5 inch sata laptop drive [02:40] No component of the lappy is damaged, it just won't charge [02:40] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:40] now it runs at 70C.... it was at 63C for a few hours until FF started acting like WinME [02:40] aperturefever (n=abell@85.74.77.119) joined ##slackware. [02:40] eviljames: the damaged component is the power jack [02:40] Urchlay: Not even, it's the plug on the charger itself. [02:40] lol [02:40] Urchlay: Now, instead of buying another drive or something, I have to replace that little POS to the tune of $100 >:( [02:41] dude, just build a new battery that has its own cord [02:41] eviljames: I've fixed a few laptops with that problem, generally you just reflow the solder on the connector pins, or possibly bridge a hairline crack with new solder [02:41] Li-Ions are easy to work with [02:41] just dont short them out [02:41] Urchlay: You're right, it'll be way cheaper for me to go out and buy a new soldering iron. [02:41] agh. And the charger couldn't just use a standard connector like you could buy at Jameco? [02:41] Best of both worlds! [02:41] he he.... I like LiPos better tho [02:41] I have no intent of shorting out this 6cell [02:41] eviljames: eh, if you already had a soldering iron... or have a friend who has one (you only need it for like 10 minutes) [02:42] Core2 w/ 6 hrs battery life, oh yea [02:42] Urchlay: believe it or not, I lose soldering irons like crazy. [02:42] Urchlay: I've bought a soldering iron ~ every 6 months for 10 years straight. [02:42] Action: gem_cat found a docking station for his old thinkpad for $20 - store had piles of old stuff [02:42] Action: Urchlay bought a big soldering station, too big to lose [02:42] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:43] unfortunately the vacuum pump is shot, so the desoldering iron on it is useless [02:43] that's too bad [02:43] I always did it with a turkey baster-lookin thing [02:43] soldering side still works good, and I know how to use braid [02:43] Action: crazyhors looks at his toshiba paperweight complete with new battery and wonders if that is the problem with it... [02:44] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:44] yeah, I have one of those too, it works OK for the "coarse" part of desoldering (braid to get the leftover bits missed by the vacuum thingy) [02:44] Urchlay: I wouldn't claim to be the greatest solderer, myself. I can get the job done, but it isn't always pretty [02:44] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-19-148.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [02:45] the stuff I solder/desolder most of the time is old 1980s Atari computers. I feel really out of place dealing with anything modern (solder points are too close together for the "shaking tolerance" of my hands...) [02:47] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:47] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:47] crazyhors (n=dirk@75.159.68.169) left irc: "leaving" [02:47] am also good at fixing electric guitars (the basic design hasn't changed much since Leo Fender's stuff from the 1950s) [02:47] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:50] totally, they're a snap [02:50] bono (i=bono@220-136-227-85.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Success [02:51] whats the daemon that automounts stuff? [02:51] like flash cards/ external harddrives/ other sata related driver devices. [02:51] kdesomething ? [02:51] or cli? [02:51] thanks james [02:51] for kde... i guess? [02:52] i have the drop down menu but it dont work! [02:52] =O [02:52] heh, no, I was meaning like for kde, or autofs [02:52] i dunno, the same way my girlfriens ubuntu laptop auto mounts stuff [02:54] gvfs? I don't think that's supported [02:55] hold I'll plug something in [02:56] I used to patch the kernel on my media box with the supermount patch, so it'd magically mount CDs [02:56] aww wtf [02:56] my blackberry won't pop [02:56] indeed... [02:56] acidchild: if you broke my automounting... [02:57] my blackberry shows up as shit on linux [02:57] Himari (n=dh@210.245.2.137) left ##slackware. [02:57] How about Frost/Nixon... will it pop? [02:58] wtf are you chattin' about? [02:58] it did [02:58] However, it just said "kdedaemon" in the title window, and kded in top [02:58] Which is friggen useless. 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[03:25] even what they call 'microfiber' is expensive :-( [03:25] and i really need to plug my ethernet in to my Gbit NIC. [03:25] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:25] this 10mbit port blows. [03:26] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:27] ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd [03:28] wooo excellent! [03:28] no lag ;> [03:28] lol [03:29] http://www.furnituretoronto.com/shopping/product_details.aspx?ItemNo=SL04-100-102 [03:29] i kind of like that. :) [03:29] but damn thats got some price to it =( [03:30] i need sleep [03:30] i shall talk to ya'll again another day. [03:30] laters [03:30] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Leaving" [03:32] wooohooo.. you can buy a car or sth instead buying this couch [03:32] scary [03:32] indeed =( [03:33] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:33] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:34] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:36] What's up,folks [03:37] pharyngitis here.. :( [03:38] OUCH..sorry to hear,aperturefever [03:39] :( if i drink any more tea with honey i will be overrun by bees [03:39] or attacked by Pooh..:D [03:39] lol [03:41] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [03:41] Kerio2004 (n=Port@87.109.206.220) joined ##slackware. [03:42] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[03:53] http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=117904751&img=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.classistatic.com%2Fcps%2Fl%2Fkj%2F09%2F4%2F1%2F459%2Fr4%2F5780m8b_18.jpeg [03:53] thats pretty damn transexual [03:53] hahaha [03:54] i just went on a 5 mile walk circling the city and the cops stopped me because they had a call about some fight. [03:54] What..the sofa or what's on the mat? [03:54] nullboy: haha. [03:54] i hope you knew your rights and didn't let them touch you in the slightest =] [03:55] Nick change: myrick[off] -> myrick[on] [03:55] i needed to cross the street so i waited for a car to pass and it was a cop. he made a u-turn and said it looked like i was running form something [03:55] nah [03:55] he could tell i wasn't some wide wacking tweaker [03:55] wife* [03:56] Ticketed ya? [03:56] nothing [03:57] of course you are nullboy [03:57] CyB3R_n37 (n=ch0wn@189.32.218.214) left irc: [03:57] :P [03:57] cool [03:58] he's all ...uhh you're just "on a walk" ? [03:58] ... [04:00] yeah ... you should be working or sthing..you goddam hippies [04:00] :D [04:01] i did laugh at him though [04:01] he asked if i was married and i started laughing [04:01] ahoy ye ole SlackerS [04:02] maybe he was trolling for a midnight buddy,nullboy...:D [04:02] lol [04:02] sorry,couldn't resist [04:02] verily well,dtanner [04:03] =) [04:11] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.130.126) joined ##slackware. [04:13] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [04:13] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [04:16] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [04:18] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:19] i think by the time this kernel compiles, i will have grown a beard and be reproductively challenged, should have used distcc :/ [04:19] i'm growing out a beard now [04:19] shaving sucks [04:19] screw that men shouldn't have to shave [04:19] beard > shaving rashes [04:20] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [04:20] Action: Camarade_Tux compiles his kernel within 4 minutes on his laptop :) [04:20] I just shaved off a glorious beard [04:21] at one time I had a goatee that hit the middle of my chest... then I met my current gf. [04:21] Now when it gets past 2 inches long... well, there are consequences. [04:22] eviljames: shaving of your beard is like being castraded, you lose all essence of man hood [04:22] zxh (n=red@218.26.164.24) joined ##slackware. [04:22] s/shaving of your beard/having a girlfriend/ :D [04:23] oh yea, I forgot how useless regular sex is. [04:23] right hand and prostitutes -_- [04:24] i'm not shaving anymore then [04:24] and feet if youre a yoga master [04:24] i'll look like stallman [04:24] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:24] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.183.76) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:24] you'll be attacked by ninjas :p [04:25] I was going to grow a proper unix beard [04:25] http://izanbardprince.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/richard-stallman.jpg [04:25] His is outstanding. Not like that Eben Moglen pussy. [04:25] or ESR [04:25] WTF is his problem. [04:26] My computer use slackware11.0, how can I use adsl link it to the internet [04:26] eben needs to match the hair length [04:26] dangazda (n=daniel@147.231.103.174) joined ##slackware. [04:26] oh dude ...there's toxic waste in his beard [04:26] zxh: via dhcp? [04:26] yes [04:27] I would plug in the network cable first, then ensure the correct modules were loaded, then modify /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf, then probably run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [04:28] zxh: Pentium I or II processor? [04:28] sorry, use adsl modem and telephone line [04:29] zxh: pppoe-setup [04:29] zxh: is the adsl inside of the computer? [04:30] or is it a different box? [04:30] it's outside the computer [04:30] ok [04:30] zxh: you have a phone line that connects to the adsl box and then a cable between the adsl box and your computer's network card? [04:31] yes [04:32] zxh: do what frullet said [04:32] http://slackwiki.org/DSL [04:32] most uk adsl is PPPoA [04:32] :) [04:32] thank u [04:33] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host55-8-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:34] neat. Comedy Network did not censor Jon Stewart dropping the F-bomb [04:34] they'll just pay it [04:34] it's worth it [04:34] After 11 on specialty channels there aren't any fines I don't think [04:35] Trailer Park Boys is aired uncensored on Showcase channel at (iirc) 6pm [04:35] MLanden, what do u mean, a amd processor [04:36] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [04:36] zxh,just asking since you were running slackware 11 [04:36] Bubbles,eviljames [04:37] MLanden: Ricky > * [04:37] LOL [04:37] MLanden: I hate to say ahtodaso Julien, but I fSckintoedaso. <- I bust that line out daily. [04:38] ouch,lol [04:40] Next person to refer to a swear word as a letter-bomb gets a foot through thir teeth [04:40] Zordrak: I prefer it, actually. [04:41] Zordrak: so fsck that, and fskc you [04:41] :D [04:41] i meant "F-Bomb" [04:41] fsck is fine [04:42] oh [04:45] eviljames: Did you care much for Red Green? [04:45] I have an odd love for it. [04:46] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:47] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@200.60.110.3) joined ##slackware. [04:47] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:47] Wohoo.. my rma'd raptor is here [04:48] only been 3 full months since i requested the RMA(!) [04:49] sweet [04:49] i love of smell of refurbished disks early in the morning [04:49] ARGH [04:49] ejal (n=ejal@89-139-145-85.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: "Leaving" [04:49] After they sent me a DOA refurb.. i said DO NOT SEND ME ANOTHER REFURB! [04:50] so what do i have here? [04:50] there is no such thing dude [04:50] you can't get replacement that is not a refurb [04:50] it's a friggin joke [04:50] i worked for a hard disk distributor [04:51] also it's the SATA-II model and i dont know if my home board will boot it [04:51] all sata should be backwards compatible [04:51] there are some boards that wont accept a II unless you jumper it domn to I [04:51] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-83-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [04:52] unless it was that model oy disk we had [04:52] yeah, i have a board that only sees 32GB so i have to use the clip jummper [04:52] whats disturbing is- they have NO record of this model.... they just sell it [04:52] WD740ADFS [04:53] never existed as far as WD are concerned [04:53] yeah it did that just means it's refurbished [04:54] i dreamed hard disks for 5 years. they were in my face all the time [04:54] i was always surrounded by hundres of thousands of hard disks [04:56] Enough hard drives to pass the petabyte marker? [04:56] easily [04:56] i have pictures somewhere i think [04:56] whoah [04:57] it was a global hard drive distributor [04:57] nullboy: no, the S us actually a diff model.. its the ADFD but with SATA-II instead [04:57] Zordrak: yeah here's the breka downhttp://www.wdc.com/en/library/2579-001028.pdf [04:59] i have two of these right now in mirror ST3750630AS [05:00] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:00] hm, am I still here? [05:00] all i can say is thank fuck for 5-year warranties [05:00] yeah,Urchlay [05:00] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:00] that was kinda scary. Standing in basement, hear *snap* and see a blue spark from the breaker box [05:00] Now to find something to hook it up to before i take it home to see if they sent me another DOA [05:00] and a split second later there's thunder [05:01] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-83-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [05:02] Flash aahh ahhh savior of the universe...you OK,urchlay? [05:02] lol.. give the raptor a bigger cache and it becomes an ADHD [05:02] Urchlay, nothin' fried? [05:04] Zordrak: lol [05:07] nothing downstairs anyway [05:07] good t'hear, Urchlay [05:07] everybody upstairs is asleep, possible someone's alarm clock will fail to go off [05:07] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-7092f3e7082a76c6) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:08] "He'll save every one of us!"... [05:08] p3biz (i=p3biz@gateway/tor/x-105c9916c2631a76) joined ##slackware. [05:09] LOL [05:10] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@200.60.110.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:10] wonder if Flash Gordon (former football player, jock) would try to beat up Spider Man (nerd) if they ever met [05:11] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.130.126) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:12] dunno [05:12] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.129.162) joined ##slackware. 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[05:54] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.132.72) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:55] Hallo All :) [05:55] helo [05:55] i need [05:55] help [05:55] ? [05:56] how to install kernel [05:56] slackware 12.2 [05:56] 1 min [05:56] Action: lawlezz newbie [05:56] pls [05:56] lawlezz: RTFM [05:57] ? [05:57] http://warning.ge/forum/index.php?showtopic=30 [05:57] but it's on georgian [05:58] Zordrak: read the fuc*** manual? [05:58] :) [05:59] ALVAN (n=hjhg@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [06:06] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:06] .quit [06:06] ImVagrant (i=0@93.177.177.162) left irc: "leaving" [06:07] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:12] lawlezz read README doc in kernel file [06:18] duryo (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-ec28d96b4b8c3885) joined ##slackware. [06:19] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. 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[07:55] how small to make my boot partition :/ [07:55] usually do 256MB when space doesnt matter [07:55] but it matters here [07:55] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-924c94a1b492a54f) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:56] sod it [07:56] damn it.. does winxp or slack get the lower cylinders... [07:56] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-65d63fd54e5473ac) joined ##slackware. [07:57] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [07:59] Zordrak: i have my boot partition set to 16MB [08:00] that's more than enough for a huge monolithic kernel [08:00] if you compiled everything in and didn't need an initrd you could have it at 8MB [08:00] not big enough for me.. i have a number of kernels sying about and like flexibility [08:00] i decided to stick with 256M [08:00] 8MB will take three kernels [08:01] well, 16mb will take fix :p [08:01] five : [08:01] problem is.. deciding on the order of the other 3 parts (winxp/slack/swap) [08:01] i am using Firefox 3.0.8 on Slackware 12.2 with KDE 3.5.10 and have firefox homepage set to http://www.google.com/ig?hl=en&source=iglk when i type something in the search field and hit enter, it opens my results in a new tab. Is there a way to change this back to not opening in a new tab? [08:01] Action: Camarade_Tux 's monolithic kernel is 2.4MB and is 100% fat free, 8MB probably won't hold 3 kernels [08:02] my thinking is.. cause windows is a twat that reads the disk 300 times just to open a directory.. it makes sense to let it have the lower cylinders [08:03] and the primary reason for running it at all is GTA:IV [08:03] monstro (i=monstro@201-92-50-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:04] but then slack doesnt deserve to be relegated to sda3 [08:04] and it will be the primary OS [08:04] and running KDE4 [08:04] still got kde3 on this box [08:05] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [08:06] any opinion welcome.. [08:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.195) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:06] swap should get the lower cylinders. [08:06] will run faster. [08:06] i considered it [08:06] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Client Quit [08:06] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:06] but swap hardly *ever* gets used [08:07] :) [08:07] so net worth bothering wasting those cylinders [08:07] *not [08:07] i would do windows first, then slack. [08:07] i think it may have to be [08:07] 1: /boot 2: NTFS 3: / 4: swap [08:08] why do you need /boot at all? [08:08] slack's just so agreeable it doesnt care where it is [08:08] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:08] slava_dp: i'd never be without it [08:08] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:09] i never use it. /home always gets it's own partition, but /boot is always on / [08:09] spmd (n=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [08:09] what's the benefit? [08:09] and since this is on a WD raptor, what slack loses being on a later cylinder it gains being on a 10krpm disk [08:09] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:09] slava_dp: i just like having the flexibility [08:10] and like having my kernel at the start of the disk even if / isnt [08:10] hmm. [08:10] and i never relocate /home cause i dont store much there.. i do storage on separate HDDs [08:11] guys do you know what should i install on firefox so can i see full flash player? i can't play poker on facebook ... :D [08:11] tntslack, 32 or 64? [08:11] 32 [08:11] just grab the flash player off adobe.com [08:11] every think is working only poker i can't play... [08:12] i don't it... but with poker... something wrong there... [08:12] done * [08:12] and ln -s (forgot where flash installs) to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [08:12] /usr/lib/firefox [08:12] sbopkg -i flash-player-plugin [08:12] new flash installer lets you specify the install location for ff [08:12] tntslack, not sure...never tried to play poker on facebook [08:13] tntslack, and i just used a slambuild for my system [08:13] can some one test it and confirm if only me can't play [08:13] _Sampei_ (n=francesc@151.61.217.54) joined ##slackware. [08:13] <_Sampei_> hi [08:14] done [08:14] working? [08:15] <_Sampei_> can you tell me wich image i have download to install slackware? [08:15] 1: 256MB /boot, 2: 35GB WinXP, 3: 35GB /, 4: 4GB swap. [08:15] _Sampei_, cd's or dvd? [08:15] _Sampei_: DVD-iso [08:15] <_Sampei_> dvd? [08:15] <_Sampei_> are different? [08:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-170.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:17] <_Sampei_> on the site there are only the image of 655mb [08:17] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [08:17] dvd image have all packages. if you need only the base, you can just download 3 1st CDs [08:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-11-27.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:17] <_Sampei_> can you give me the link? [08:18] <_Sampei_> for dvd [08:18] _Sampei_: www.slackware.com [08:19] <_Sampei_> a ok [08:19] <_Sampei_> found [08:19] <_Sampei_> :D [08:19] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/slackware-12.2-install-dvd.iso [08:19] here is from USA source [08:20] <_Sampei_> ok but i am italian [08:20] <_Sampei_> :D [08:20] <_Sampei_> but i found [08:20] <_Sampei_> thanks [08:21] spmd (n=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [08:21] almost got kicked for flood :-D [08:21] kerryking (n=kerry@81.214.239.118) joined ##slackware. [08:21] <_Sampei_> bye bye [08:21] <_Sampei_> thanks [08:21] <_Sampei_> :D [08:22] _Sampei_ (n=francesc@151.61.217.54) left irc: [08:25] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [08:25] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:29] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] hello, does anybody know how to enable sub-pixel hinting in qt4 (slackbuilds.org package, no kde4)? [08:37] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:38] hey what's the top of the line for remote service discovery and os probing? is xnmap as 'end user' as it gets? [08:39] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:40] stunix (n=stian@213.225.76.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:40] duryo (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-ec28d96b4b8c3885) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [08:41] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [08:43] dartmouth: pretty much [08:46] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:52] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:06] why xulrunner? xulrunner is the engine [09:06] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [09:06] use that :) [09:07] thrice`, ok I'll try [09:08] crzpc (i=mrc@gateway/tor/x-3130cc0a2af95d4c) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Nick change: myrick[on] -> myrick[off] [09:09] Nick change: myrick[off] -> myrick[on] [09:10] thrice`, I saw the Slackbuild and I make the same thing [09:10] thrice`: am i crazy... or was there NO reaction to that... [09:10] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:10] I copy the flashplayer to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [09:11] but still does't working [09:11] crzpc (i=mrc@gateway/tor/x-3130cc0a2af95d4c) left irc: Client Quit [09:11] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:12] booteco: did you restart firefox ? [09:12] firefox does't are opened [09:12] booteco: did you install the flashplayer package in /tmp? [09:13] And I'm not using the firefox, just the xulrunner [09:13] hitest, no, I just copy the file to /usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins [09:13] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@189.27.40.100) joined ##slackware. [09:14] ne1 knows wich channel 4 bob's church ? [09:14] booteco: ok, it's *impossible* to "just use xulrunner" [09:14] xulrunner is firefox's engine [09:14] in order to view any flash site, you need to use the actual browser (firefox) [09:14] thrice`, I dont opened the firefox. [09:15] I close the application maded by me [09:15] booteco: after runnning a slackbuild script there will be a resulting package created in /tmp. that is installed by using the # installpkg or upgradepkg command. that's how slackbuild scripts work. please read the manual. [09:15] thrice`: dude.. seriously [09:18] Zordrak, so the Ati drivers can make slackware packages now? good news then :) [09:18] HELL YEAH!! [09:19] Zordrak, and do the drivers work well? [09:19] hitest, I installed the package, but still does't working [09:19] i wont know till i get home [09:19] Action: slava_dp is considering buying an ati card. [09:20] slava_dp: dont [09:20] slava_dp: that would be insane [09:20] but hmm..... well..... is it so bad? [09:21] yes [09:21] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) left irc: "..." [09:21] which is better, samsung nc10 or acer aod150? [09:21] bhodgins_ (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] NVidia have been providing FANTASTIC linux support for some time.. ati have been failing to do so for a long time [09:21] sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [09:21] booteco: did you re-start your browser? [09:21] pi31415: who cares? 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[09:25] srbo (n=daniel@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:25] bob_slacker: it feels like one, but i woke up 9hours ago ;( [09:26] stybla, time to smoke [09:26] :) [09:26] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:26] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [09:26] smoke'em if you got'em [09:27] Become an Ordained Minister NOW... [09:27] A NEW SALE DAWNS in both of our CATALOGS and our News Blog [09:27] ? [09:27] http://www.subgenius.com/ [09:27] ah, sorry. i feel somewhat sleepy -> slow :( [09:27] Action: stybla drinks even more coffee [09:27] stybla, take a ritalin [09:28] stybla, methylphenidate [09:28] hehe :) [09:28] how about a short sleep? ;) [09:28] s/sleep/nap/ [09:28] if a take a short sleep, it becomes long. very long [09:28] mmm a 12 hour nap...mmmm..mmm [09:28] yeah [09:29] ad if you wakeup in two hours your eyes hurt [09:29] and everythings crap [09:29] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-19-217.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:29] bhodgins_, ritalin saves u [09:29] yep, i can only agree, bhodgins_. [09:29] uh, wtf [09:29] stybla, y [09:30] so! anyone hear about that atm in capitol city, microsoft windows based, spewing 100 kronos shortly after midnight on april fools? [09:30] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-19-217.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:30] wahoo!!! it worked! it worked!! [09:30] \0/ [09:30] krona's* [09:30] agentc0re: what?!what!?WHAT!? [09:30] i'm going to drink more coffee and slack ... umm ... sounds like my usual day. [09:30] :D [09:30] vlc for slamd64 [09:30] drink tea [09:30] kewl [09:30] coffee will put you to sleep [09:31] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:31] solved, just create a ~/.mozilla/plugins and copy the flash plugin inside [09:34] Srbo (n=daniel@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:34] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [09:35] booteco, o rly? [09:35] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) joined ##slackware. [09:35] booteco, when we gonna drink some @ a booteco ? [09:37] Srbo (n=daniel@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:37] Srbo (n=daniel@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] P4k3 (i=P4k3@c-6f34e255.014-33-6b6c7810.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[09:57] haha [09:57] lol [09:57] yeah, it has all terrain tires too kinda [09:58] classic [09:58] nvm, thought it did [09:58] just the back [10:08] yeah seen one at that one track out in the desert [10:08] slackytude (i=8d640adc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-95e837bf5c753569) joined ##slackware. [10:09] greetings [10:10] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:11] ALVAN (n=hjhg@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [10:12] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:12] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:12] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:12] boring lecture [10:13] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:13] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:14] greetings slackytude:) [10:14] y0 hitest [10:14] :) [10:14] how do you do? [10:14] I'm very good, thank you. you? [10:14] fine, great weather [10:15] sun is shining and weather is sweet [10:15] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE5803.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:15] boring lecture [10:15] weird weather up here in northern canada, still a bit of snow on the ground......in april [10:16] heh [10:16] yea snow! weeeeeeeeeeeeeee [10:16] lol [10:16] no snow here anymore :D [10:16] lucky [10:16] yeah [10:17] 20 degrees celsius [10:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] still got my snow tires on.....nice temp, slackytude! [10:17] and Im sitting here listening to this dude [10:17] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: "Leaving" [10:17] what's the lecture about? [10:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:18] design principles of modern processors [10:18] sounds a bit dry [10:18] well, yeah. I needed some credits tho [10:19] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:19] I understand [10:19] we are in the year 1964 now [10:19] Action: Camarade_Tux_ surprise-hugs slackytude [10:19] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:19] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:19] argh! [10:19] heh [10:19] y0 Camarade_Tux_ [10:19] modern [10:19] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:19] nooper: Im guessing we are getting to it [10:20] anyone know anything about decoding MCEs on a slack kernel? [10:20] greetings [10:21] hi The_Croupier [10:21] y0 The-Croupier [10:21] The-Croupier [10:21] hows it going guys...;) [10:21] IBM System/360 [10:21] good:) [10:21] whats h_da [10:21] hi hitest, slackytude [10:21] The-Croupier: great weather, boring lecture [10:22] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] nooper: hochschule darmstadt [10:22] same here apart form the lecture..;) i do the lectures ;) [10:22] is that a university? [10:22] aye [10:22] http://h-da.de/ [10:22] great weather... just finished cabling a lan :( [10:22] dangazda (n=daniel@147.231.103.174) left ##slackware. [10:22] really bored :( [10:22] ah [10:22] ? [10:22] we have snow here [10:22] and im in northern us [10:22] 20 degrees celsius ^-^ [10:22] dangazda (n=daniel@147.231.103.174) joined ##slackware. [10:23] sclebo05 (n=sclebo05@corp.paonline.com) joined ##slackware. [10:23] The-Croupier: still torturing kids with english? [10:25] yes my english is very well [10:25] ;) [10:25] anyone know if slack,s default config will write a log anywhere for a machine check exception -> kernel panic? [10:25] hmmm, java.freenode.net, good, let's forget about mibbit now :) [10:25] Camarade_Tux_ im on that too ;) [10:25] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [10:26] The-Croupier, I found that thanks to your infos :D [10:26] java.freenode.net? [10:26] Camarade_Tux_ my infos?! [10:26] sex_beast (n=sex_beas@AMontsouris-158-1-19-217.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:26] slackytude yes http://java.freenode.net [10:26] your "name" [10:27] oh, it works :) [10:27] nice one ;) [10:27] but afaict it won't pass firewalls =/ [10:27] it does mine at work ;) [10:27] \o/ then [10:27] oi! nice [10:27] as long as you run java somewere [10:27] well, doable [10:27] Nick change: slackytude -> slackytude2 [10:27] ok.. how about a way to pause the box and stop it from rebooting long enough for me to write it down? [10:28] Zordrak break button [10:28] top right [10:28] will do it on panic? [10:28] on your keyboard [10:28] yep will do it on boot anywhere [10:28] at my school, everything is not blocked, only the computers that do not belong to the school [10:28] ZenShador (n=shador@p5B0CFB65.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:28] The-Croupier: this isnt on boot [10:28] slackytude2 (i=8d640adc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-95e837bf5c753569) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [10:28] this is while compiling a kernel [10:28] Zordrak, how about livecd and check dmesg logs ;) [10:29] Zordrak it should work on that too [10:29] it did on my little laptop [10:29] would be easier if i can get it logged somewhere [10:30] anyone seen old_fogie lately? if you do tell him hi from me, and antler, and the others ;) you know who i mean [10:30] sex_beast (n=sex_beas@AMontsouris-158-1-19-217.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [10:30] haven't seen Old_Fogie for a bit [10:31] Zordrak, im in a real hurry... but im sure that you could livecd, mount hdd, and check the logs from there... even in kernel panic...it keeps logs, tells you what went wrong exactly..check on alienBOB's site as well ;) [10:31] he comes on at night [10:31] ah [10:31] hi kitche ;) [10:31] ah one more day of work then a day off [10:31] I think java.freenode.net mostly want to preserve your hostname infos to prevent abuse actually [10:31] sclebo05 (n=sclebo05@corp.paonline.com) left ##slackware. [10:31] well, if you see all the old folks say hi..and tell them i apologise i havent been that active lately but i have some bank problems...so running around :( [10:32] no internet at home either..:( [10:32] slackytude (i=8d640adc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c06d1d85d4ab4ebd) joined ##slackware. [10:32] bah [10:32] Camarade_Tux_, its fine for me at work, passes cisco firewall (stupid windows admin put), works like a charm [10:32] java.freenode.net doesnt work for me [10:32] greetings everyone [10:32] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [10:33] well, we are at the 8086 family now [10:34] you sure its not 80386? [10:34] that too [10:34] slackytude, what do you get ? [10:34] 8086 is SO old! [10:34] Camarade_Tux_: it just hangs [10:34] tried the older applet ? [10:34] bhodgins_: yeah but we were at ibm system 360 before [10:35] Camarade_Tux_: nope, just staying with mibbit for now [10:36] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:37] bbl, work is calling me:( see you tonight. [10:37] well, at least I know now why they have so stupid register names [10:37] see ya [10:38] bye slackytude:) [10:38] FFS!!!! I sat there waiting for the MCE.. but this time it rebooted within .25s of the panic!! [10:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:38] nice boot time [10:38] haw in hell am i supposed to work out the problem if i cant get at the error msg?! [10:38] there is a kernel option [10:38] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE5B39.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:38] also, the sysreq calls should still work, iirc [10:39] if i had more than 0.25s to input them [10:39] well, that sucks [10:40] Zordrak: keep a camera handy and take a snapshot of the mce [10:40] i did!! [10:40] i was there with my phone [10:40] lolz [10:40] but the instant it came up it rebooted [10:40] i didnt even have time to press the shutter [10:41] Nick change: kethry_ -> kethry [10:41] damn [10:41] battery low [10:41] see ya later [10:41] any idea how to stop the reboot? [10:41] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:42] even XP lets you stop it from rebooting on BSOD [10:43] any good app so i can see my hd temp? [10:43] hddtemp [10:43] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [10:43] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE5803.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:44] it is ok if i install from their source? [10:44] guzu.net [10:44] slackytude (i=8d640adc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c06d1d85d4ab4ebd) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [10:44] no.. you'll be arrested by the chinese government [10:44] lol [10:45] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.169.129) joined ##slackware. [10:45] alienBOB: any idea how to get this MCE logged or stop the reboot? [10:45] ghfu (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:46] Zordrak: no idea [10:46] Maybe pass some kernel parameters on the lilo commandprompt after the label [10:47] which though :) [10:47] Yeah I did not follow what you dd to your hardware. Or is it a new install? [10:48] zounds (n=zounds@213-67-241-119-no68.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:48] i'm on a fresh install on which im trying to build a new kernel... but halfway through the make i get a Machine Check Exception [10:48] and i need to know which bit of hardware is causing it [10:49] if it's the HDD im gonna murder WD cause this is my 2nd RMA after the first was DOA.. if it's something else im in trouble cause this box is to be the new mailserver for the company [10:51] oh wait no.. this is primary DNS/DHCP/NIS [10:52] Zordrak: if I were you i'd run a memtest86+ if you get funky stuff like that during a compile [10:53] im replacing the PSU first on a hunch [10:53] but obv would be easier to decode what the proc is gcomplaining aboit [10:56] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:00] sQuEE` (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:00] sQuEE (n=narya@host57.190-30-4.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:01] i wish i had enough mem and quality to just record the build as video [11:01] ahah [11:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:02] possibly: "panic=15" or similar [11:02] ooo [11:03] echo 120 > /proc/sys/kernel/panic [11:04] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:05] oculus_ (i=linux@36-2.cable.lpoy.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:05] Does slackware work on Samsung NC10? [11:05] Laptop [11:05] oculus_: wrong question [11:05] oculus_: send me one, and I'll get back to you. [11:05] BP{k}, hehe :) [11:06] Zordrak, why? You think it works on all machines? [11:06] So how do you trick dumb sites into thinking you have Windows media player installed with FF ? [11:06] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:06] <_ohm> oculus_, i486+ [11:06] oculus_: slackware works on anything the linux kernel works on [11:06] *effectively* [11:07] oculus_: have you googled it? [11:08] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [11:09] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:09] oculus_: because the first link I get is from comp.os.linux.x about someone sharing an xorg.conf for slackware 12.1. (hence, this seems to suggest it works: http://tinyurl.com/dxw7ve ) [11:10] BP{k}, well Im mainly most interested if the WLAN in it works. I'll check your link. [11:10] it's like asking if your car will work on the A3 to Guildford [11:10] do you know which wireless card it uses? [11:10] oculus_: well you didn't *ask* that. [11:11] monstro (i=monstro@201-68-36-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:11] Heh no I didn't.. :) [11:11] I don't know what card it has :( [11:13] What is the best form of make traffic shape in slackware? cbq? htb and others? [11:13] Looks like Atheros AR2425 [11:13] atheros = min [11:13] atheros = win [11:13] Its good? [11:14] looks like same one in eeepc 1000ha and uses ath5k module [11:14] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] alienBOB: it's looking like the replacement PSU fixed it [11:14] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:14] anyone can help me? :( [11:15] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-7331d27c1592fd22) joined ##slackware. [11:16] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:17] How does the slackware see Samsung battery condition? [11:17] oculus_: the slackware does what it is told with the tools it is given [11:18] just try it :) [11:22] alienBOB: confirmed.. 21m later i now have a kernel and no panic... fscking stupid power-hungry motherboard [11:23] bhodgins_ (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] Zordrak: nom nom nom (sound of hungry PSU) [11:27] booteco (n=booteco@201.47.17.212) left irc: "Leaving" [11:28] giuppy (n=giuppy@host67-165-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] Asus M2N-SLi Deluxe are perfectly happy with 350w HEC supplies.. but M2N32WS Pro have insufficient USB power using them and also (it now seems) cause MCEs... thrown in a 420w from a 4U server and now seems happy [11:28] twatty twatty twatty [11:30] dangazda (n=daniel@147.231.103.174) left ##slackware. [11:31] omg... OAT: WD6400 has faster reads than a WD740 raptorII ! [11:31] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [11:31] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: "leaving" [11:32] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009007215.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:32] hi guys. [11:32] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.62.144) joined ##slackware. [11:36] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [11:37] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:37] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [11:38] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:38] lawlezz (n=alim@125.27.160.218.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:08] kde4 question: I reinstalled xorg and kde due to an issue with my video driver, now I get "missing mime types" errors all over the place...is there an obvious way to fix that? if so, I seem to be missing it [12:09] brb, restarting x [12:09] maddslacker (n=maddslac@c-24-9-181-130.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:09] you made sure to reinstall all of kde4? including its requierds?.. damn it [12:09] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.250) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] update-mime-database may help [12:12] aye [12:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:15] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:16] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-254-4-199.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:18] AH HERE [12:19] hey [12:19] BILL GATES wine as in cry a letter to opensource community ! how do i search for that can find the right keywords [12:20] no wonder. [12:20] your question to us makes no sence never mind your google term. [12:20] does anyone know how I can analyse bandwidth usage on a virtual eth interface (eth1:11) iptraf only analyses the entire eth1 [12:20] tcpdump -i eth1:11 -w data.pcap [12:20] and open it in wireshark? [12:20] ok [12:21] or just use tcpdump in general [12:21] ngrep is good stuff. [12:21] Xires012 (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:21] what you searching for fevel? [12:21] ok bill gates , 20 years before sent a letter to the O.S community supporting that open source was bad ... [12:21] you can do 'host $eth1:11_ip' as the syntax for tcpdump or ngrep [12:21] i'm trying to find tha document online [12:21] im searching for the caus1:11)e of internet slowdown on this specific network (eth [12:21] eth1:11 [12:22] Agiofws, that would be his Open Letter to Hobbyists. [12:22] But it wasn't to "the O.S community". [12:23] ccfreak2k, thanks [12:23] lets see [12:23] And do you really need to use so many spaces? [12:24] indeed. [12:24] acidchild: but that would analyse traffic, I would like to know how much of the bandwidth is being utilized [12:24] the guy has a tiny IQ it seems. [12:24] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:24] fevel: hehe i have a good application :P [12:24] fevel, measure the size of each packet? [12:24] no [12:24] fevel: wana pay me? [12:24] :P [12:24] no [12:25] ahaha i'm kidding [12:25] im here because I have no money [12:25] http://blackcore.net/source/bwpd.c [12:25] here. [12:25] compile that and do [12:25] I cant [12:25] I cant compile anyything on this crap [12:25] export DEV=eth1:11 ; ./bwpd ip [12:25] they dont let me [12:25] http://blackcore.net/binaries/httptime.x86.elf [12:25] try that, its a binary [12:25] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.62.144) joined ##slackware. [12:25] ccfreak2k: I want to know how much of its 2mb internet connection is being used [12:26] And I want a million dollars. [12:26] fevel: that application is perfect for your needs. [12:26] ccfreak2k: very funny [12:26] thanks acidchild [12:26] but they dont let me compile anything [12:26] stupid policies [12:26] Its long time when I installed slackware, I hope it doesnt force itself into the hard drive bootsector? I just want to boot it from USB, and install it to USB. [12:27] oculus_: you can install the bootloader on the usb instead of the mbr [12:27] Hard disk has Windows XP and I dont need to read those partitions [12:27] fevel, and it asks it before doing anything? [12:27] acidchild: I see how it is! [12:27] Action: Dominian sniffs [12:27] ignore my IMs. [12:27] hehe [12:27] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:27] if you set it on the bios, I guess so [12:28] Dominian: i've just got off my phone [12:28] your IM went to my blackberry [12:28] ITs too much work to remove the hard drive so I hope it just ignores it and lets me install to the USB [12:29] acidchild: I really need to get a BB [12:29] then I can just PIN you [12:29] ha, your going to join my horny club girls list? [12:29] =P (thats what my BB IM is filled with) [12:29] haha [12:29] thanks fr the help acidchild [12:30] ch-b (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:30] acidchild: So you stated you like arch? [12:30] yeah seems good. [12:30] :P [12:32] heh [12:32] Well, I'll ask again in a fwe weeks ;) [12:32] ok [12:33] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [12:33] Action: nachox stabs Dominian and replaces acidchild with a solaris server [12:34] slowlaris! [12:34] damn, gentoo boy... [12:34] nachox: I use openSUSE on my laptop, Slamd64 at home, Slackware on my servers.. I'm well covered :P [12:34] not to mention acidchild gave me access to a NetBSD box [12:34] whichi s confusing as all hell [12:34] Gentoo pwns [12:35] gentoo is as dead as sgi [12:35] psh [12:35] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) left irc: [12:35] well... no, it is |--| less dead :P [12:36] hey, I heard opensolaris recently got suspend working. that was pretty awesome when linux got it too a few years ago. congrats :) [12:36] bluejeans (n=bluejean@63.150.132.130) joined ##slackware. [12:36] I may try opensolaris again.. [12:36] just not sure how good the hardware support will be on an alienware [12:36] yuck why [12:36] thrice`, :) [12:36] gentoo is crap [12:37] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Your mom is crap [12:37] thrice`: just something different [12:37] straterra: yours isn't :D [12:37] that's why I don't keep anything important on my laptop :) [12:37] hahaha [12:37] hahahaha [12:37] If you don't think my mom's crap..then..you MAY need corrective eye surgery [12:37] she likes to move it move it! [12:37] Action: nachox gives acidchild the best quick answer of the month badge [12:38] who cares in the dark [12:38] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1484 [12:38] P4C0 (n=susana@200.124.22.34) joined ##slackware. [12:39] nachox: both inflicted their fates on themselves, so there is definitely a connection :P [12:39] hello [12:39] ch-b (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:40] psychicist, i think gentoo was never a viable business model, they got themselves in a really really small niche market with very little real advantages [12:41] howso ? their package manager is easily the most advanced of any distro [12:41] and they are far from dead [12:41] their package manager is hardly a package manager [12:41] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:41] i agree with ananke for once. [12:41] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:41] openSUSE's package manager is probably one of the best I've ever used... [12:41] ananke: explain? [12:41] how many times have you logged in to a gentoo server to see 5-6 peices of the emerge tree b0rked? [12:42] or 'portage tree' w/e [12:42] Dominian, I can make it crash whenever I want :) [12:42] thrice` : it doesn't track all the files that are installed [12:42] Camarade_Tux_: make what crash? [12:42] thrice`, they failed to realize that package managers are designed to allow for fast access to things, because people actually need their computers to do something useful for them, otherwise they are just expensive paperweights [12:42] Dominian, yast [12:43] nachox: I disagree; with current computers, the compiling aspect isn't bad at all [12:43] Camarade_Tux_: er. ok [12:43] ananke: how not? they get stored in the database if you use portage [12:43] thrice` : all of the files installed by ebuilds? [12:43] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-13340209d6a7a1d5) joined ##slackware. [12:43] thrice`, have you tried compiling gnome or kde? openoffice? more than 10 minutes is unacceptable [12:44] it doesn't handle lots of constraints on package selection (i.e. when you go against the dependencies it finds) [12:44] nachox: lol, hardly. *someone* has to compile them [12:44] ananke: I don't see your point, I guess [12:44] that 'someone' is not me. and that's all i care about as a user [12:45] thrice` : a traditional package system tracks all files that are part of said packages. this way, removal/cleanup is possible. [12:45] thrice`, yes, the people that get paid to build the distribution, for them, compiling is what gets them their paycheck so having a computer just to compile software doesnt turn it into a worthless paperweight [12:46] Camarade_Tux_: what version was the last you used? [12:46] ananke: portage tracks those things. for example, if you set a -pam use flag, and recompile the affected packages, the package manager will, when asked, remove pam and all no-longer-used dependencies [12:46] (not to mention that a source package manager makes models like paid support impossible) [12:47] thrice` :so it tracks all the files that come with said 'packages'? [12:47] ananke: everything that "package" installs, sure [12:48] nachox : that's probably one of the most crucial aspects [12:48] nachox: recently I and a couple of others had a look at several package managers, portage isn't exactly what we'd call world-class and exherbo doesn't improve much on it. it's a theme in general that functionally equivalent package build infrastructures and managers exist that don't have enough differentiation between them to say that one is superior in stability and usability to another [12:48] nachox: sure, but consider it's target. it's more a hobbyist distrbution than anything else [12:48] thrice` : then i stand corrected. i didn't think they tracked all files [12:48] Gentoo really isn't bad... [12:48] but I don't have the patience for it [12:49] yes it is! [12:49] its crap [12:49] compaired to all the others out there, it sucks. [12:49] sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) left irc: "..." [12:49] when I can instal Slamd64/SLackware/openSUSE in no time [12:49] I dunno [12:49] acidchild: I can name another one [12:49] and the maintainer isn't in here right now [12:49] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:50] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:51] j14159 (n=jeremy@154.5.76.16) joined ##slackware. [12:51] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE5B39.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [12:52] Dominian, 11 or 10, but I guess if it were written in a compiled language and not perl, it wouldn't have crashed [12:52] heh [12:52] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Dominian: but nobody knows about it [12:53] uses it [12:53] etc etc, so who cares? [12:53] Channel flood from acidchild -- kicking [12:53] =] [12:53] acidchild kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:53] acidchild (i=ash@dubstep.7a69.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:53] acidchild, muhahaha :) [12:53] wow slackboy i didn't know you loved arny so much [12:53] hehe [12:54] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-13340209d6a7a1d5) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:55] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-f842dea737452080) joined ##slackware. [12:56] acidchild: so how's things going today? Keeping busy? [12:56] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] still fighting a up hill struggle. [12:56] just don't see why my cheque isn't worthy... and they wont accept a visa card and only a Money order... [12:57] i belame the economy [12:57] and the noobie level of my realestate agent. [12:57] atleast i have a compooter that works [12:58] heh [12:58] money orders are pretty cheap usually [12:58] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:58] yeah like 2-5$ [12:58] what i don't care about, its all this running around [12:59] not enough hours in the day =( [12:59] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] hey all [13:00] hi dudes [13:00] someone alive? [13:00] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-188-75-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [13:00] no, noone's alive [13:00] mth- :no [13:00] i have troubles with openoffice in slack 12.2, it does not display all fonts [13:00] like Times New Roman or Arial [13:00] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hey acidkill [13:00] i'm doing a homework for my girlfriend [13:00] :( [13:01] "a homework"? [13:01] please can someone help me [13:01] acidkill: hey hey hey! [13:01] =] [13:01] mth-: are the fonts even installed? [13:01] acidchild: You should see how nuts it was when buying a house... [13:02] you think you're running around.. ha! [13:02] :) [13:02] yep acidchild, abiword display all fonts [13:02] changing jobs and home? [13:02] i think we're up there dude. [13:02] =P [13:02] the realestate guy is talking about 'starting over' :| [13:03] thats not even funny [13:03] freealut's source link is down on slackbuild :/ [13:04] probly because they've released a new version. [13:04] hmm. it was last night. all good now. [13:04] acidchild: same version on 12.1 and 12.2, and no mention of new version on OpenAL's site.. [13:04] acidchild: uhhh starting over. why? [13:05] because i guess i'm pissing someone off? somewhere up the line [13:05] but why on earth isn't a credit card or a normal cheque good enough?! [13:05] acidchild do you speak spanish? [13:05] nope [13:05] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Connection timed out [13:06] ah darn. it won't build. same problem I had last night with the source... [13:06] pastebin it? [13:07] :( [13:07] my girlfriend is gonna kill me!~ [13:07] why? [13:07] http://pastebin.ca/1380119 [13:08] mth-, why? [13:08] crn__ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [13:08] what can i do to debug this error? Im trying to use "resize2fs" http://rafb.net/p/CyHzW756.html [13:08] i'm doing a homework [13:08] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.94.134.34) joined ##slackware. [13:08] for she [13:08] it is her homework, therefore, her responsibility [13:08] but my openoffice doesn't display all system fonts [13:09] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:09] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:09] yeah don't let chicks use you [13:09] they will do it to you for ever. [13:09] :) [13:09] lol [13:09] anyone going to disagree with that statement? [13:10] bluejeans (n=bluejean@63.150.132.130) left ##slackware. [13:10] Action: fluxnuk3r hears only the sound of shaking heads... [13:10] it's a help [13:10] she doesn't know so mucho about word processing [13:10] so? [13:10] this is school [13:10] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] aka learning [13:10] acidchild: get a chance to look at that error? [13:11] does this application have a lib package? [13:11] # [13:11] ../include/AL/alut.h:11:19: error: AL/al.h: No such file or directory [13:11] # [13:11] Channel flood from acidchild -- kicking [13:11] ../include/AL/alut.h:12:20: error: AL/alc.h: No such file or directory [13:11] acidchild kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:11] acidchild (i=ash@dubstep.7a69.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:11] darn [13:12] mth-, and she doesnt have her own computer with a windows installed and office? or can go to any public cybercafe with that installed? [13:12] or the school libary [13:12] Action: nachox looks scornfully at acidchild :P [13:12] or the school IT labs. [13:12] :( [13:12] can you help me or not? [13:12] mth-: write it in a diffrent font? [13:12] OOo should be able to display the fonts [13:13] ooo doesn't display Times New Roman, Arial, Tahoma, verdana, etc [13:13] mth-: how did she send it you in the first place? [13:13] you don't have them installed? [13:13] acidchild: freealut is a library.. [13:14] fluxnuk3r: check the website, see what it depends on. [13:14] Necos, abiword display all fonts fine [13:14] and if nothing, try a older version. [13:14] mth-: use abiword to convert it then [13:14] acidchild: OpenAL. Duh. [13:14] fluxnuk3r: OpenAL is missing [13:14] Action: fluxnuk3r mumbles and goes away... [13:15] ehm [13:17] if abiword displays it fine, where's the problem? [13:17] write it in OpenOffice then save it [13:17] open it in in abiword then save it [13:17] after changing the fonts. [13:17] abiword can write word documents too [13:17] well the problem is that could be some method [13:17] ? [13:17] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [13:17] to make Openoffice to display the fonts correctly [13:18] it's time sensitive, so get it done and then figure out the solution to the problem later =p [13:19] unless another computer doesn't have abiword or ms word... [13:20] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-f842dea737452080) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:20] acidchild: thanks. its all good now. stupid mistake. [13:20] hehe no worries. [13:20] i guess i chimed in late, as i don't really understand where the problem is [13:22] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.77) joined ##slackware. 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[13:43] I am confused because I have www as an IN record, not a CNAME. [13:43] pi31415, what domain? and then i can look [13:44] another question, im now settin gup php, I uncomented the mod_php.conf in httpd.conf but when I browse to a php page it wants me to download the php file instead of load it [13:45] nvision (n=nvision@g229186178.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:45] did I miss something? [13:46] there should be an addtype or something... [13:46] i uncommented that as well [13:47] at first I thought it was my browser cache [13:49] you restarted apache? [13:49] yea [13:49] [Thu Apr 02 10:51:29 2009] [notice] Digest: done [13:49] [Thu Apr 02 10:51:31 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.10 (Unix) DAV/2 PHP/5.2.8 configured -- resuming normal operations [13:49] thats in the tail [13:49] hrm [13:49] what extension are you using for your php files? [13:49] restarted it again and now it works [13:50] temprmental [13:50] sorry [13:50] thanks! [13:50] yay [13:51] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:52] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [13:54] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:55] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [13:58] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009007215.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:59] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [13:59] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com" [14:01] big day on monday, were changing our server setup to virtualmin.... [14:01] luckily we only have 15 vhosts on the server atm. [14:02] arg. Virtualmin [14:03] should be done in a day. Although magento seems a real pain to move from one server to another. Especially when were wont have a separate server only the old server's harddrive mounted. [14:05] atm the moment we have webmin, a qmailrocks setup and myphpadmin, so it will be a big improvement imo. [14:11] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.1.15) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:12] Nick change: kamaji_ -> kamaji [14:12] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-129-23.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:12] alim (n=alim@125.27.160.218.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] helo [14:13] ehlo [14:13] hi [14:13] where u from? [14:14] irc [14:14] lol [14:14] we live here :) [14:14] yup [14:14] what time there? [14:14] here 01:14 am [14:14] :) [14:14] homework time :( [14:15] Today is Boomtime, the 19th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 [14:15] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@189.27.40.100) joined ##slackware. [14:15] cool [14:15] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-15-114.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] that tickles [14:16] cool [14:16] bitchX? [14:16] yes [14:16] well xchat is better [14:17] i'm newbie [14:17] and i hate homework [14:17] i just want to graduate [14:17] hi acidchild - I got apache working with php and mysql - but no talking - what is the default firewall for 12.2? [14:18] iptables? [14:18] i'm ungraduate [14:18] though in fairness thats not a firewall [14:18] thanks edman007 [14:18] i suppose linux is the firewall [14:18] alim, me too [14:18] ic [14:18] but i graduate in ~5 weeks [14:18] Action: edman007 dances [14:18] and i need a job... [14:19] many job in Phuket [14:19] thailand? [14:19] yes [14:20] sounds far away [14:20] edman007 where r u? [14:21] us? [14:21] yea, ~20 miles easy of NYC, on long island [14:21] cool [14:21] edman007: who doesn't need a job? :s [14:22] stybla, lol.. [14:22] 5 weeks is not too soon to look - what kind of job do you want? [14:22] sh0ne (n=Unknown@93.86.91.45) joined ##slackware. [14:22] gem_cat: there are no rules in firewall, by default. [14:23] went to a career fair last week, some guy from the navy had a job for graduating eeng students from my school who are US citizens..i might be the only one, so sounds good right now [14:23] oh [14:23] i think they are waiting for the closing date [14:23] stybla, that means it is probly my router [14:24] gem_cat, anyways looking for digital design stuff [14:24] gem_cat: can you connect to apache from localhost/LAN? [14:25] edman007: you want to dedicate yourself to a horrible system for 3years+ of your life? =/ [14:25] edman007 where is the default saved file directory for lynx? [14:25] stybla, I can connect to localhost - I need to test lan connectivity but my hub is upstairs - I will get there eventualy [14:25] alim: the folder you started 'lynx' in [14:25] where? [14:26] acidchild, horrible? [14:26] control + z then `pwd` then fg [14:26] i don't know [14:26] really [14:26] gem_cat: and i guess you (your workstation) don't have public ip by yourself -> you're behind NAT. [14:26] alim: your ~ dir probly [14:26] /home/username/ [14:26] thanks [14:26] correct [14:26] gem_cat: and you want eg. me to be able to connect to apache behind NAT (router), right? [14:26] acidchild, anyways, the thing from the navy i was looking at was for civilian positions [14:27] edman007: cool [14:27] yes - but so far cannot ping the apache box [14:27] ping != tcp [14:27] gem_cat: from where - inside/outside (=internet) ? [14:28] ping = icmp [14:28] edman007: good luck dude =) [14:28] hope you find your 'path' [14:29] stybla, i set a hard ip - i think my router is not accepting it - I will just have to let it pick up [14:29] Yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:30] gem_cat: i have no idea what you're doing there, but you'll have to configure DNAT at your router. [14:30] Guest61739 (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:30] acidchild i can't find it [14:30] :( [14:30] alim: well then i can't help you. [14:31] acidchild: how about % find / -name whateverthenamemightbe; ? [14:31] acidchild: vmware server 2.0.1 out [14:31] stybla: not me whos having issues :-P [14:31] Dominian: yeah i got an email. [14:31] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] stybla: i'm very well aware of where my files are =P [14:32] alim: as root do 'updatedb' and then do 'locate $filename' [14:32] thats the moronic noobie way [14:32] acidchild: so? you've said it in the way "it can't be done" ;) [14:32] acidchild: Looks like some security fixes and DDoS fixes [14:32] ok [14:32] acidchild: mainly on windows hosts.. but it wouldn't hurt to update dubstep if we're still using that server [14:32] thanks [14:32] acidchild: but i'm ware of that it's alim. [14:32] stybla: no, if one can't help ones own self with spending a little time working things out. [14:32] alim: close lynx and type 'pwd' [14:32] i try [14:32] Dominian: yah mang. [14:33] alim: or press control + z and abckground it [14:33] acidchild: is spy running in that VM or is that something else? [14:33] then do 'pwd' and then do 'fg' to forground the process. [14:33] Dominian: no its a streight up box [14:33] k [14:33] so if I shut down the VM to do the update.. what will it kilL? [14:33] look at the ps list, you'll see its 'daily tasks' [14:33] yah [14:33] wait.. "pwn dominian's box" [14:33] MOFO! [14:34] haha [14:34] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:34] can I join in? [14:34] fred, if you bring beer [14:34] :( I'm out [14:34] fred drinks tea [14:34] sorry - headhunter called - wish he had actually had a job I could do [14:34] hahaha. [14:34] fred: That's a beer sin you know? One must always be in the beer crisper. [14:34] spot of tea! [14:35] another shrimp on the barbie [14:35] Dominian: beer and coca cola more often actually :p [14:35] beer crisper = vegetable tray in fridge :D :D [14:35] (though not at the same time) [14:35] Dominian: wrong steriotype. [14:35] damn it [14:35] fred: hehe [14:35] acidchild: that's austrailia isn't it? [14:35] yep [14:35] Action: fred stabs apple for poor API documentation [14:36] well shit [14:36] acidchild: ok how about "time for some fish and chips" [14:36] Action: acidchild stabs fred for nothing at all [14:36] Dominian: just stop [14:36] stupid sexy flanders. [14:36] i deal with these stupid comments all the time [14:36] <3 fish and chips [14:36] pure ignorance. [14:36] <3 fish and chips [14:36] though not found anywhere that does good fish and chips in london :( [14:37] :( [14:37] they say in london - look for Indian food [14:37] good indian food all over the uk [14:37] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] agentc0re|work: wtf is a beer crisper? [14:38] fred: fridge. [14:38] :) [14:38] the vegetable drawer of your fridge [14:38] the box at the bottom of the fridge [14:39] fred: vegetable tray in the fridge. [14:39] Action: Dominian is ignorant? [14:39] hrm alright [14:39] Guest61739 (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:39] Dominian: no. [14:39] Action: Dominian goes back to work [14:39] your being a lil girlie now! [14:39] stop frowning! [14:39] fred, bad API docs? ahha [14:39] better than no documents [14:39] its not just bad, its horrific [14:40] just like Firefox AddOns [14:40] anyway out of engineering school may want to look a honeywell - they are everywhere like wolfman jack [14:41] thats good... [14:41] acidchild, its just all outdated and wrong, what exists is nice but lots of places are wrong [14:41] basically you just have to read the headers [14:41] yeah [14:41] thats not documentation [14:41] =P [14:41] go into #macdev, they don't consider reading the docs to be useful [14:41] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [14:42] acidchild, well the headers have decent docs... [14:42] edman007: Really? I'll go ask [14:42] Why would you put your beer in the fridge :| [14:42] WTF?! [14:43] fred, to prepare it for drinking [14:43] Cold ale is disgusting :( [14:43] err what [14:43] Action: edman007 slaps fred [14:43] your one of them warm beer freaks. [14:43] *you're [14:43] warm piss is disgusting [14:43] Action: agentc0re|work shoots fred with the eel cannon! [14:43] KABOOM! [14:43] edman007: ah, you've had fosters then? [14:43] my uncle once asked at a pub for a bowl of warm water to put his pint in [14:43] talk about a loser [14:43] lol [14:44] acidchild, wtf? [14:44] indeed [14:44] my mum was so embarassed. [14:44] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@mpd-1047.tvcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:44] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:44] edman007: (12:42:46 PM) agentc0re|work: Do you guys considering reading doc's useful? [14:44] (12:43:03 PM) provvl: of course [14:44] ;) [14:45] MaCaDe (n=martijn@inlv.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:45] its the barley in the beer that makes the belly bow [14:45] agentc0re|work: not if apple wrote them [14:45] agentc0re|work, well i've been in there and was told to read the headers many times when i complained that my code was not working [14:45] edman007: Heh, i'm just giving you shit. [14:45] fred: hahah. [14:46] agentc0re|work, but i don't like shit [14:46] fred: apples can write? [14:46] Lectus (n=chatzill@20150049054.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:46] you can keep it [14:46] :-/ [14:46] thats so cool [14:47] can they get degrees too [14:47] ? [14:47] acidchild, only the granny smith apples [14:47] because they are old [14:47] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@189.27.40.100) left irc: Client Quit [14:47] edman007: How about a knuckle sandwich? [14:48] agentc0re|work, they just don't have what it takes [14:49] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:50] grazymax (n=grazymax@host154-155-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:50] damn I hate stupid users that start a service pack install and then stop it half way through [14:51] Dominian: LOL [14:52] afo_SoaD (n=afo_SoaD@rue92-6-82-237-182-56.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] hi all [14:52] Dominian, do they like to test their UPS while updating their BIOS? [14:53] Action: gem_cat gives Dominian a monkey [14:53] Yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [14:55] afo_SoaD (n=afo_SoaD@rue92-6-82-237-182-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:55] edman007: dunno.. but its freakin' annoying [14:55] and with that damn conficker FUD going around.. people are just stupid about what they are doing [14:56] and EVERYTHING is conficker's fault now [14:56] argh [15:00] Dominian, yea...started a nuclear war too! [15:00] we will all die in a week from the fallout [15:01] if anyone does SAP i will forward you a headhunter :) [15:02] alim (n=alim@125.27.160.218.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:03] the human condition is afik perfectly fatal [15:03] othermindszine (n=othermin@138.sub-70-193-243.myvzw.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:03] i iz immortal [15:04] because i'm a bot [15:04] at least thats what my parents say [15:04] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:05] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:10] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:11] edman007: haha @ granny smith apples joke :-P [15:12] anyone know any good applications for making invoices? [15:12] thats not php. [15:15] paypal does that I think [15:16] lol not paypal sir [15:16] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:17] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:18] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:18] Do you know if such a hardware exists that I can connect PCMCIA cards into USB? Modern laptops don't have PCMCIA slots. [15:19] acidchild: openoffice [15:19] acidchild: http://www.linux.com/feature/47726 [15:19] too much effort. [15:19] i'm going for a effort attempt [15:19] heh [15:20] oculus_, not offhand. [15:21] And the newer laptops I have contain both the older PCCard slots and the new ExpressCard ones. [15:21] One of each [15:21] Netbooks have none, usually [15:22] that really depends on the board. [15:22] i've got a shipment of these 7x7cm boards from israel comming that has only PCIE [15:22] and databoard connectors. 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[16:00] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:00] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:01] can someone help me with installing slackware? [16:01] i have got one problem... [16:01] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] what problem? [16:02] i stucked on a partitioning part [16:02] are you using fdisk? [16:02] have you looked at the slackbook? [16:03] it says that i haven't got permissions for writing... [16:03] mmm, did u create ext/xfs/jfs partition? [16:03] bluejeans (n=bluejean@63.150.132.130) joined ##slackware. [16:04] what the hell... [16:04] Did you drink too much beer? [16:04] ToXiC: are you trying to create a partition on your DVD device perhaps? [16:04] no [16:04] im trying to install slackware as well, for like the 100th time, and my .iso is screwy [16:04] i am trying to do it [16:04] cfdisk [16:04] and [16:04] it told me [16:04] Cotowar: Put it on a usb device. [16:04] that i haven't got permissions... [16:04] cant [16:05] computer is too old [16:05] Cotowar: Or get a new cdrom drive. [16:05] cant afford one. [16:05] Cotowar: And you wonder why it wont burn... [16:05] :p [16:05] Cotowar: Do you have any friends? [16:05] no, the burner is fine, thats my laptop [16:05] ToXiC, what the command u sending ? [16:05] Cotowar: Friends with a cdrom. (wasn't meant as an insult) [16:05] Cotowar: had an issue with an older machine and a newer sata drive [16:05] im trying to install on a 13 year old gateway [16:05] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [16:05] not command [16:05] look i will show you [16:06] Cotowar: You could try burning at the lowest speed possible too. [16:06] ToXiC, cfdisk ? [16:06] look at this picture [16:06] http://www.slackbasics.org/10.2/images/cfdisk.png [16:06] cfdisk /dev/hda? [16:06] and now i have got all of those bootable and other [16:06] but i haven't got write [16:06] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [16:06] bluejeans (n=bluejean@63.150.132.130) left ##slackware. [16:06] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:06] what does it detect your hard drive as? [16:06] write command is missing and that is because i haven't got some permissions... [16:06] ToXiC, now hit bootable on sda1 , then write [16:07] but i can't... [16:07] i did burn at lowest speed, and this is the third CD ive burned. the first one had a bad md5, this one checked good, i dont know why it wont get past initrd.img [16:07] Would a cdfdisk go on hda? i would think it'd be sda or something else. [16:07] is missing ? i can see write in that pic [16:07] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [16:07] and why is it only recognizing me 4 gb?? [16:07] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:07] LinuxyErin (n=Erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] stunix_ (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:08] ToXiC, how much GB is it ? [16:08] hey everybody [16:08] Action: Cotowar waves to LinuxyErin [16:08] agentc0re|work: wouldn't it depened on how it's detected (or rather if it's an PATA or SATA drive) [16:08] heya erin [16:08] i have got 17 gb free but it is recognizing only 4 gb [16:08] err i was thinking of a cfdisk, not the command cfdisk. my bad. [16:08] anyone here heard of pcmanfm? [16:08] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.149.237) left irc: "leaving" [16:08] Necos: I just looked at his pic and realized why i was confused. [16:08] duthac (n=mverhoff@FUSE-DEDICATED-66-161-181-131.fuse.net) left ##slackware. [16:08] http://www.slackbasics.org/10.2/images/cfdisk.png look at the picture everything is same onto my pc too but i haven't got write button [16:09] Wow agentc0re...lol [16:09] duthac (n=mverhoff@FUSE-DEDICATED-66-161-181-131.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] and why i haven't got write button?because when i try to enter cfdisk it says that i haven't ot permissions to write [16:09] strange , ToXiC , i dont know then [16:09] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-010-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "zzzzt - gone" [16:09] dont use cfdisk [16:09] ToXiC: Why not just use fdisk? [16:09] try fdisk, IMO its easier than cfdisk [16:10] ye but i don't know to use it [16:10] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-010-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] xD [16:10] type fdisk [16:10] ToXiC: fdisk /dev/sda [16:10] it will say hit "m" for more options [16:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:10] oh [16:10] ok [16:10] i will try [16:10] But first look at "fdisk -l" ToXiC which gives you a listing of available partitionable devices [16:10] its really easy, or try man fdisk for the man page [16:10] are you running cfdisk as root? [16:10] Hrmm... There is no try. There is do, or do not. No try. [16:11] or is this from the installer [16:11] slackware's installation is hardest that i ever had:D [16:11] slackware sucks. [16:11] those partitioner is very bad and old... [16:11] go windows! [16:11] lol slackware installation is easy [16:11] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.149.237) joined ##slackware. [16:11] i am going to try fdisk [16:11] ToXiC (n=car321@78-1-109-45.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [16:12] LinuxyErin, you should let me update you on my troubles with the slackware install. I swear the only thing that HASNT happened is lightening burning my whole computer [16:12] if for some crazy reason cfdisk can't write to the device then it is unlikely that fdisk will [16:12] lol [16:12] Cotowar: i don't believe you =P [16:12] my only complaint about the slackware installer is that it doesn't allow you to go backwards in the menus [16:13] LinuxyErin: yes it does. [16:13] lol how? [16:13] it always goes back to the main menu [16:13] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@76.210.70.213) joined ##slackware. [16:13] yea but like you still have to restart whichever wizard you were in [16:13] so? don't fuck up [16:13] =] [16:13] lol [16:14] also it would be nice if there was something like gparted for partition resizing [16:14] install Fedora or Redhat then [16:14] doesn't gparted need X ? [16:14] =P [16:14] lol yea [16:14] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] lol nah if i need gparted i just use it on a cd [16:15] stop bitching then [16:15] your mom [16:15] whats the last thing you designed? [16:15] your mom :-p [16:15] Excellent job! [16:15] Will the Real Erin Clark please shutup, please shutup [16:16] acidchild: i tried downloading the DVD.iso, got it, then realized i dont have a DVD drive in the target computer. After that I tried to get the CD.iso's, but my internet connection screwed them up and i ended up getting like 60MB files. So...I tried again, and got bad MD5 sums. So, I tried again, only this time I tried the USB.img, and behold! my computer cannot boot from USB. So i tried the mini.iso, and saving the full install on an [16:16] external HD, and could not access it that way. Then I went back to the CD.iso a third time, and got a good md5, full 660MB file or whatever size, and tried installing....now i cant get past the initrd.img load at the very freaking beginning. [16:16] so yea, lightening is pretty much the only thing thats not gotten in the way [16:16] LinuxyErin (n=Erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:16] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-3fab4cae45db8f97) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:17] v (n=v@207.144.234.35) joined ##slackware. [16:18] nvision (n=nvision@g229186178.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:18] yep, the farthest I can get is on the mini.iso, and it gets me a formatted & partitioned drive, gets the swap and / set up, and asks what i want to install. i can pick off the list, then it asks for the medium to install from, and im stuck [16:18] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [16:19] just download CD1 iso [16:19] burn it, and install it [16:19] see? i knew you where over complicating things =P [16:19] i did that, three times [16:19] anyone on the latest -current? does pdiff work for you? i get "/usr/bin/pdiff: line 181: wdiff: command not found; a2ps: cannot find file `c0419bt_.afm': No such file or directory" [16:19] it doesnt get past booting initrd.img [16:19] hello. I hate to admit, I'm here looking for a quick fix. I downloaded a SlackBuild as a regular user. When I try to execute the script, I get a long list of permission denied messages. When I run it as root, I get command not found. New to Slackware and thinking it's not a good idea to go online as root to download builds. Tried chmod +x as root. What am I missing in terms of permissions? [16:20] v, get sbopkg [16:20] Basically, how do I get the build script downloaded as a regular user to exec as root? [16:20] v: what are you excuting? [16:20] v: well, the reason it doesn't work as user, is because it needs to use chown / chmod in /tmp [16:20] sh Program.SlackBuild [16:20] v, http://sbopkg.org [16:20] however, as root, it should work just fine (and that's the proper way) [16:21] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:21] Sleepymess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [16:21] v: in the dir, "su" to root, and sh prgname.SlackBuild is correct [16:21] v: I think I know the issue, though. is it possible you don't have the source tarball in that directory? [16:21] ndiswrapper.SlackBuild [16:22] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:22] I moved the tarball to the directory before execution of the script. [16:22] which tarball ? [16:23] su root resulted in the command not found message on #ndiswrapper.SlackBuild [16:23] so can anybody try pdiff on -current, please? [16:23] in the directory containing the source and the script. [16:23] v: you have ndiswrapper-1.54.tar.gz in that directory ? [16:23] downloaded with the script from SlackBuilds.org; that source [16:23] yes [16:24] v: "sh ndiswrapper.SlackBuild" [16:24] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:24] Actually, it was downloaded from Sourceforge. The SlackBuilds.org link redirects to the SF source location. [16:25] v: ok; you need an "sh" before to actually call a shell to run the script [16:25] slava_dp: i get the same wdiff not found [16:25] ok [16:25] I'll give that a try now. [16:26] Thanks [16:26] hmmm.... i'll try to burn the CD1 .iso again. the md5sum is correct, is there any other way to check if the image is bad before i burn it for a 4th time? [16:26] of course [16:26] Lord_Khelben, thank you for proving that. [16:26] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:26] Cotowar: if the md5sum is correct then the file you downloaded is the correct one [16:26] Action: slava_dp gonna send Pat a bug report. [16:27] Lord_Khelben: i thought so, and i burned it at the lowest speed, but when i try to install, it wont get past the initrd.img load from huge.s [16:27] Still running the script but that, sh, seems to have fixed the problem. I'll man it for the details. Thanks thrice'. [16:27] :D [16:27] v: sure :) [16:27] Jewpermess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [16:28] im getting so frustrated at this, it should take like 15 minutes, and ive been dicking with it for like days... [16:28] Cotowar: before I go afk, have you tried a new cd/dvd drive? [16:28] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [16:29] nope, its not the drive though, because my mini.iso gets all the way to actually installing the kernel and all that. [16:29] and i can install my XP or any of my other linux OS's just fine [16:30] Thanks again thrice. Everything worked. The package is installed. [16:30] i dont know, i guess ill just mess with it when i have time [16:31] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:31] ktebit (n=ktebit@77.42.227.218) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [16:33] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:33] v: cat ./program.info [16:33] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.158.2.39.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:34] what is this? https://www.ohloh.net/p/slackware [16:34] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-188-75-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:35] erisco I was away. What does cat ./program.info relate to? [16:35] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] P4CO, it looks like a blog... [16:36] v I said it when it was relevant, my internet disconnected and you probably just got the message [16:36] i dont have to put the .asc or the .md5 on the install CD do i? [16:36] ok [16:37] no problem [16:37] it was to show where to get the tarball. it's a good file to "cat" =p [16:37] better, is "source program.info && wget -c $DOWNLOAD" :) [16:38] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] thrice`, heh :) [16:39] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:40] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:41] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:42] dangazda (n=daniel@r2u84.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. 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[16:51] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:52] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-62.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:52] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:52] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-62.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] lol [16:53] do any of you go into random channels on here? [16:54] Cotowar : you know, there are better hobbies than that [16:55] true, but im a nerd [16:55] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:55] you're giving bad name to other normal nerds [16:55] lol [16:55] give me a year, then ill be old enough to buy myself a handgun, and ill have a new hobby. :) [16:56] hahahaha [16:56] #ubuntu-women ftw ! [16:56] ftw! [16:57] YES! [16:57] I must frequent that channel [16:58] internet women are the best, they can be as hot as you want them to be [16:58] :) [16:58] They are not real women though :) [16:59] thats okay [16:59] i pretend in my mind and it makes me happy [16:59] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] does it matter that my hda1 is outside my hda2 in disk blocks? [17:00] ^_- outside ? [17:01] wouldn't want hda1 to get rained on ... better bring it in [17:01] lol [17:01] yea, hda2 starts on block 1 and ends on 993. hda1 starts on 994 and fills the rest of the disk [17:01] so you mean ... after ? [17:01] monstro (i=monstro@201-68-37-210.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:01] whatever, its a circle, so outside is the same thing [17:01] (and yes ... its quite alright for it be after [17:02] oaky [17:02] Cotowar : uhmm, you can't end and start in the same location. [17:02] ah ... a wise man thinking of cylinders ... outside is ok [17:02] okay, its more of spiral... [17:02] ananke: he said 993 and 994, no? [17:02] yes [17:03] hmmmm [17:03] jar_corefile : correct [17:03] Cotowar : and no, it's not a spiral. it's a set of rings [17:03] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [17:04] hmm, 5pm. time to go home [17:04] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-244.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [17:04] drive safe [17:04] :) [17:04] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] how far in the install does CD1 go? [17:05] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:05] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [17:05] iirc, it should have everything but kde [17:05] (and source and extras) [17:05] a d e k l n f dirs i think... [17:06] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] okay [17:06] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [17:06] l4m3rx, I guess that's changed since 11.0? (I've been using hdd installs ever since) [17:07] mmm... 11.0 was on 1cd [17:07] mm... i'm not sure actualy ... i'm getting old :} [17:08] 12.2 is on 3 CDs, [17:08] .* [17:08] l4m3rx: looks like 11.0 was on 3 (ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-11.0-iso/) [17:08] indeed ... aren't we all getting old [17:09] mmm ...3rd must be /extra :} [17:09] goodnight people. off to bed. enjoy staying awake :) [17:09] i'm realy getting old ;] [17:09] night :) [17:09] I still have the install CD for 3.1.0 [17:09] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:09] okay, im at the package selection... how do i get fluxbox? [17:10] what type of selection did you choose? expert,... [17:10] i didnt...it just went... hmmm [17:11] good call, im going to back up and try again [17:11] just download the dvd... at least that way you have the source... [17:11] fluxbox is in the xap group [17:11] cant run DVDs on this machine [17:12] old technology sucks [17:12] i have to say [17:12] if you have the hdd space (~4GB now?) you can just do a full install [17:12] assuming you want a desktop machine (why else would you want flux) ... it'll save you the hassle in the long run [17:13] my overall plan is making a media PC [17:13] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-010-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:13] i have a 15GB total HDD, but a 500GB external that the computer recognizes [17:14] my plan was to install the OS on the internal drive, and install the bare minimum apps to watch movies and whatnot, then have all the files on the external drive. i also wanted to SSH in so i could remotely control it with my laptop [17:14] makes sense ... [17:14] the 15GB is more than enough [17:15] you'll want to focus on libraries [17:15] yea [17:15] the rest you can cherry pick as you like [17:15] i just dont want a bunch of gnome and kde crap on here that i dont need you know [17:15] and i dont want to have to go back and uninstall it if i can just not install to begin with [17:15] understood [17:17] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.101.165) joined ##slackware. [17:17] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [17:18] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] ktebit (n=ktebit@77.42.227.218) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:22] Thanks again for the help. Everything is moving again. See you later. :-H [17:22] v (n=v@207.144.234.35) left irc: "Leaving" [17:23] i dont need emacs if i have vim right? [17:23] nope [17:23] actually, you don't need vim either since you have pico and nano lol [17:24] can anyone who is using xfce 4.6.0 on -current comment as to how stable (or not) it is? [17:24] i dropped nano actually, and joe and jed [17:24] damn lol [17:25] you don't need those if you have notepad.exe [17:25] lol [17:25] heh [17:25] actually ... elvis will get you by ... and its quite small [17:25] notepad is one of the few programs i can tolerate in windows land [17:25] very old school vi -esque [17:25] notepad++ is so much better =p [17:25] Necos, how? [17:25] textpad (for win32) [17:25] Tabs. [17:25] Syntax hilighting. [17:26] Microsoft can use features other people invent / implement but can't give anyone credit, as usual [17:26] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [17:26] and/or changes the name so it appears that they invented something [17:26] it's basically emacs/vim for win32, but native [17:26] and/or patents it as some other name so it appears we owe 'em money [17:27] Is there anything I should disable in the default slackware-sendmail.cf? [17:27] and it has tabs, syn hightlighting, etc... [17:27] I just want to use fetchmail to get my email, and it needs a local mda. [17:28] mooglenorph, do you absolutely have to use fetchmail to do it? [17:28] Wait, sendmail is the MTA. Yes. the mda I want to use is procmail. [17:28] TwinReverb: nope. is there something better? [17:29] does it absolutely have to be a shell-based application? [17:29] once in a while when i ssh into puresimplicity.net i use mutt on the local server ... [17:29] pretty much yeah. I'm setting up mutt. [17:29] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:29] oh [17:29] nevermind.... [17:29] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: "01001110 01100101 01110010 01100100 00100001" [17:30] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@76.210.70.213) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] I can't stand thunderbird. I'm on a few high-traffic mailing lists, and it is so godawful laggy. [17:31] mutt + msmtp [17:31] what are your system specs? [17:32] Action: TwinReverb uses kontact (i.e. kmail) [17:32] core 2 duo 2.2Ghz, 4GB ram [17:32] TwinReverb: with gmail account? [17:32] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.34.60) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:32] hmm with a gmail account ... nevermind [17:33] granted i believe there are MTAs that can convert gmail reads to a pop3 action but i haven't done that in a while [17:33] i forgot the name of the one i used but it wasn't too bad [17:34] you'd think POP3 access would be cheaper for the big email servers to use since you don't have all the html traffic with it, but oh well [17:34] TwinReverb: it crashes for me from time to time, when I get an email with attachments if while kmail is retriving the attachments I click on another mail (for preview) it crashes [17:34] i don't experience that problem here [17:34] gMail supports IMAP and POP3 access. [17:35] i use gmail's imap with kmail [17:35] Do they recognize this as a problem? The thunderbird people? [17:35] do they have a bugzilla site? [17:35] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.92.39) joined ##slackware. [17:35] i can has google? :) [17:36] TwinReverb, they should. [17:36] Because I have a local folder with about 216 messages in it (list gets ~100 - 300 emails a day) and it lags when I scroll. [17:36] The Thunderbird folks use the same bugzilla as the other Mozilla projects [17:36] could it be due to the sheer # of emails? [17:36] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [17:36] mooglenorph, you configured Xorg right? [17:36] Probably. But it should handle that amount of email. [17:36] true but i'm just asking [17:36] Yeah. I'm using the proprietary Nvidia drivers. I can play games and they work fine. [17:37] hmm [17:37] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:37] Other apps scroll fine. That would drive me *absolutely insane* if this was a system-wide thing. [17:37] hello [17:38] Hi Nigromante [17:38] until i set up expiration on my spam folder i had like 1000 emails in it and i never had the problem with scrolling through the # of them [17:38] have you tried install nvidia drivers 180.29 ? [17:38] kmail (iirc) defaults to not previewing emails [17:38] it's the smart safe thing to do (especially in light of spam and how viruses spread) [17:39] I'm on 180.44 right now. I keep up with their updates pretty well. [17:39] TwinReverb: not here but I just disabled it, looks better [17:39] TwinReverb: (kde4) [17:39] ah well that's kde4 [17:39] mooglenorph: does kwrite work ok for you ? [17:39] i'm using slackware 12.2's kde3.x.x and it works great [17:40] but as far as I can remember previews was enable by default on kde3 (for slackware 12.1) but not sure [17:40] i personally like gedit [17:40] Nigromante: yeah, it seems to be doing some sort of "smooth scrolling" thing too. [17:41] P4C0, i'd bet you beer but oh well :) [17:41] Not bad. Not that I'd ever use it, I'm addicted to the emacs. [17:41] mooglenorph: and when opening a file with it from konqueror, and then exiting kwrite, any problems? [17:41] TwinReverb: I hate to lose beer :p [17:42] Nigromante: yeah, works fine. [17:42] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-254-4-199.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:42] mmm [17:42] g'night [17:42] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [17:42] (I never use these crazy applications that you speak of) [17:42] which card do you have, mooglenorph? [17:42] Nick change: SlackNeo -> ||[Neo]|| [17:42] 6600GT [17:42] if i have three nics, can i set two to bridge mode and one to infrastructure(is it even infrastructure in linux) mode? [17:42] i see [17:42] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [17:43] P4C0 (n=susana@200.124.22.34) left irc: "reboot!" [17:43] Two of them, actually. I run four monitors, at 1920x1200 each. [17:43] i have 8400gs, and experimenting this problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/kwrite-crashes-with-nvidia-drivers-180.29-704422/ [17:43] :-( [17:44] Dude, that is the *weirdness*. [17:44] Also really unpleasant sounding. [17:44] Try updating to 180.44? That's what I'm running. [17:44] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:44] tried :-/ , same results [17:44] Bizzare. [17:44] gw (i=45ab80f5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0dc764500f1cedd4) joined ##slackware. [17:45] Nick change: ||[Neo]|| -> SlackNeo [17:45] i've browsed nv forums and seems 180.xx is quite unstable [17:45] hey, i just installed slackware and when i try to boot it, i keep on getting /sbin/e2fsck is a directory while trying to open / [17:45] it looks card-related problem [17:45] thanks anyway [17:46] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. 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[17:58] Jenkens (n=Jenkens@unaffiliated/jenkens) joined ##slackware. [17:58] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:58] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Jenkens (n=Jenkens@unaffiliated/jenkens) left ##slackware. [17:59] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:00] =) [18:00] heres a question for you guys. if i have a wireless card in one computer working as a bridge, can i still ssh to that computer via that wireless connection? [18:00] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [18:00] guess so [18:00] okay [18:00] Cotowar: you need to give ip to the bridge afaik [18:01] Nick change: ||[Neo]|| -> SlackNeo [18:01] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [18:01] you can [18:01] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.149.237) joined ##slackware. [18:02] a ver :P [18:04] i was thinking that you could only use it in one mode at a time [18:04] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:04] i dont know why [18:05] Cotowar: what are you trying to do? [18:05] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] okay, i have a wireless USB hub with my printer hooked to it [18:05] it plugs to my router, and lets you access everything on the hub via the network [18:06] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] the thing is, my laptop only has one wireless adapter, and i dont want to get another one, nor do i want a network cable running across my bedroom [18:07] oh, and i have two routers...one goes to the web, the other does not [18:07] the printer is on the one that does not [18:07] and i am lazy, and dont want to switch networks to print [18:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.9) joined ##slackware. [18:08] duthac (n=mverhoff@FUSE-DEDICATED-66-161-181-131.fuse.net) left irc: "Leaving." [18:08] basically im trying to get the upstairs router to be an AP for the downstairs router so i can print upstairs wirelessly without switching networks [18:08] i think that sums it up... [18:09] v (i=1000@dial-164.r3.ncbrvr.InfoAve.Net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Cotowar: maybe ad-hoc? but not sure [18:09] i supposed they doesn't support wds [18:09] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] i have a network cable going from the desired AP to the media PC, and a wireless card hooking to the downstairs router. i can make a bridge, and run the upstairs router in AP mode, and after messing with a few settings, its one network with two AP's [18:10] Hello again. I have another question. I just installed ndiswrapper so I can use my WiFi adapter with Slackware 12.2 and it's recognized. I was just wondering what the usual app or method for detecting hotspots is on Slackware. Any info? [18:10] v: I believe wcid is in /extra [18:11] Thanks. [18:11] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-62.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] I'll check the package manager. [18:11] wicd comes with slackware now? [18:11] or just run iwlist scan [18:11] hiptobecubic, yeah [18:11] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-62.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] Cotowar: so, it's working? [18:11] monstro (i=monstro@201-68-37-210.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [18:11] interesting. I'll check out that command. [18:12] j14159: iwlist wlan0 scan [18:12] something like that? [18:12] well i can get it to work if i use a MASSIVELY long ethernet cable, but i wanted to do it with a bridge so i dont have cabling running all over hell [18:12] v: yep [18:12] but at the same time, if the wireless card is in bridge mode, can i still ssh with it, or browse the web? [18:12] mind you, that might be a bit verbose for what you're looking for ;) [18:13] It may be ok. I prefer to use what comes with the system as much as possible. [18:13] No hotspots around here but I'll run it just to see what it does now. brb [18:13] it's basic but it works. [18:13] does anyone running current has quanta installed ? [18:13] Nick change: SlackNeo -> ||[Neo]|| [18:15] sh0ne (n=Unknown@93.86.91.45) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] j14159. Thanks. I think I'll work with this for a while instead of installing another app. That will give me time to look into wcid. [18:15] Cotowar: I think so, I used to have a small wrap pc board, with one wired and one wireless if, the wired goes to my isp router, there was a bridge between wired and wireless ifs and the bridge had an ip address, I was able ssh into it as far as I remember [18:15] cool, np [18:15] aceofspades19. Thanks to you too. [18:16] Looks like it's going to rain but I'm wondering if I can make it to the library - walking - to play with this. lol [18:16] Nick change: ||[Neo]|| -> SlackNeo [18:21] Cotowar: but I think that if you put everything as ad-hoc it may work [18:21] Nick change: SlackNeo -> ||[Neo]|| [18:21] Nick change: ||[Neo]|| -> SlackNeo [18:25] Nick change: SlackNeo -> ||[Neo]|| [18:27] Nick change: ||[Neo]|| -> SlackNeo [18:27] Nick change: SlackNeo -> SlackNeo_ [18:28] Back to work I go. See you later. :-H [18:29] v (i=1000@dial-164.r3.ncbrvr.InfoAve.Net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:29] SlackNeo_: do not change your nick so often please [18:29] Nick change: SlackNeo_ -> ArchNeo [18:29] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@dhcp13292.salley.fsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:29] Nick change: ArchNeo -> ||[Neo]|| [18:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:29] This is weird. [18:29] Final warning. You will get kicked ||[Neo]|| [18:29] Nick change: ||[Neo]|| -> ArchNeo [18:30] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:30] Nick change: ArchNeo -> ArchNeo_ [18:30] ##slackware: mode change '+b ArchNeo!*@*' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [18:30] ArchNeo_ kicked from ##slackware by alienBOB: Stop name changing! [18:30] :) [18:30] I'm getting a *my-email-address*@localhost "user unknown" bounce when I try to send email to myself from a gmail account. [18:30] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-35d549d82e3eb4cc) joined ##slackware. [18:30] anyone on current? [18:30] Bad hostmask... he'll be back in no time [18:30] Action: XGizzmo waits for the alien death ray. [18:31] should I alias my email address to my username? [18:31] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.149.237) joined ##slackware. [18:31] THe weird thing is, I get the messages anyway. [18:31] sorry :) [18:32] SlackNeo: I was about to ban you for a week [18:32] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-62.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:32] alienBOB, show no mercy :) [18:32] If I see you morphing again you will [18:33] are we part of a Star Trek episode now or what? [18:34] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [18:35] antler: Hey, guess what? It's no longer april fools, so when I say it's working, it really is. [18:35] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:35] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.101.165) left irc: "leaving" [18:36] Excellent. The aliasing worked. [18:36] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:37] agentc0re|work: do you remember whether or not you had to --enable-gpl --enable-swscale [18:37] agentc0re|work: You could be starting a new day after april fools day prank tradition. [18:37] XGizzmo Ssshhh ;) [18:38] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:38] (for ffmpeg) ^^ [18:38] antler: They are already enabled. Once I get home i'll upload them and let you know when you can download it all. [18:39] agentc0re|work: ok, thanks :) [18:39] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:39] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-83-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [18:39] antler: Ya, it was nice to wake up this morning to a successful build. [18:39] agentc0re|work: did you try to play a video file? [18:40] antler: I didn't install it. [18:40] Oh. This is terrifying. The sendmail on my computer actually works. [18:40] my gmail account just accepted a message from it. [18:40] agentc0re|work: well congrats on the successul build. :) [18:40] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] agentc0re|work: i was actually going to reinstall slackware tonight just for vlc. [18:43] quick question... how well does JFS handle power outages? [18:43] P4C0 (n=paco@200.124.22.34) left ##slackware ("g'night"). [18:43] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] We are about to be hit hard by a weather system that has spawned tornadoes to the west of us [18:43] antler, thats insane [18:43] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-83-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] agentc0re|work: (and smplayer.... heh i really like smplayer :P ) [18:43] LnxSlck: really? why? [18:44] hi LnxSlck :) [18:44] lol [18:44] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@dhcp13292.salley.fsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [18:44] antler, hi.. why not just instal vlc [18:45] LnxSlck: if it were that simple to me, then, yeah, i would be insane :P [18:45] antler, i have vlc installed [18:45] no problem there [18:45] LnxSlck: which os? [18:46] is there anyone besides slackware? [18:46] markux (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) joined ##slackware. [18:46] LnxSlck: slackware is not a person [18:46] LnxSlck: i'm running slamd64 right now. the had disk that housed slackware died the other day. [18:46] *hard [18:47] antler: Ouchy [18:47] I'm going to make a nice little shell script for subscribing to a new mailing list. [18:47] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-62.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] Evening folks ( or morning/night/afternoon as the case may be) [18:47] you would think they'd warn you or something now, as advanced as all that's gotten [18:47] antler, so the problem is with vlc and slamd64? [18:47] Automatically define a filter for it in procmail. [18:47] LnxSlck: so i was going to install slack over slamd64 tonight, but agentc0re|work said that he managed a successful build of vlc on slamd64. [18:48] LnxSlck: yeah [18:48] oh ok [18:48] hello [18:48] i have a question [18:48] LnxSlck: but yeah, the script for vlc in slackware ran like a well-oiled machine [18:49] nice [18:49] agentc0re so my vlc.SlackBuild did not work for your slamd64? Probably because it picked up 32bit stuff when it should not looking at the paste you posted earlier [18:49] i used a package from alienBOB i think [18:49] Action: alienBOB has a 64bit package for vlc using his SlackBuild [18:50] problem solved [18:50] how can i mount partitions and external volumes (like pendrives) with a normal user account ? [18:50] markux: fuse [18:50] jayd512 (n=chatzill@96-28-95-153.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [18:51] LnxSlck: so how are things, my friend :) [18:52] antler, some nice other not so nice [18:52] antler, tomorrow i got a date with a friend of mine from work [18:52] antler, let's see how that goes [18:52] :) [18:53] just go easy on the cologne :P [18:53] antler, i use my natural perfum [18:54] no cologne [18:54] ;) [18:54] LnxSlck: natural? as in sweat? :P [18:55] antler, no [18:55] lool [18:55] i smell pretty well by nature [18:55] lol [18:56] aceofspades19:i can mount any partition with the root account, is the normal account the one who cannot mount anything, is fuse the solution? [18:56] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [18:56] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.173) joined ##slackware. [18:56] LnxSlck: hehe [18:56] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] markux: yes [18:56] antler, i don't think the problem will be the cologne [18:57] antler, the girl is hard to get [18:57] LnxSlck: ah, she's already married. :P [18:57] You know they say that you have a harder time smelling your own BO, right LnxSlck? [18:57] agentc0re|work: lol [18:57] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:57] antler, never.. [18:58] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [18:58] antler, i would never mess with a married woman [18:58] agentc0re, i know lol [18:58] LnxSlck: Some good advice to get girl, http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1480 [18:58] They Inc® [18:58] Golden|Wolf (i=500@69.171.128.245) joined ##slackware. [18:58] agentc0re, i don't think paying her money would solve anything [18:58] lol [18:59] hey, does slackware use anything like apt-get/yum, i know it had swaret, but cant seem to work [18:59] s/get girl/get the girl [18:59] besides in my country we don't eat that much peanut butter [18:59] Golden|Wolf, slapt-get, swaret, emerde [18:59] Golden|Wolf, gslapt [18:59] you name it [18:59] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.35.59) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:59] need to download them or they come configured? [18:59] Golden|Wolf: No, it doesn't. slackpgk comes with slackware as of 12.2 (i think). [19:00] dangazda (n=daniel@r2u84.net.upc.cz) left ##slackware. [19:00] Golden|Wolf, download them [19:00] may have been earlier, i wasn't paying attention. [19:00] Golden|Wolf, but that is not the slackware way, my young padwan [19:00] LnxSlck: well there is only one way to play this. you need colgne that smells like money. if you go eau natural And you're not rich, then forget aboudid (italian accent). [19:00] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.35.59) joined ##slackware. [19:00] so compile from source? [19:00] antler, loool [19:00] Golden|Wolf, maybe there are some slackbuilds [19:00] Golden|Wolf, or even packages in linuxpackages (argh...) or slacky.it [19:00] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:00] or slacky.eu now [19:01] i dont mind compiling from source, the only problems are the dependencies [19:01] antler, ill play it cool, and try to make her laugh [19:01] j14159 (n=jeremy@154.5.76.16) left irc: "leaving" [19:01] Golden|Wolf, no need for that.. sure that there are packages out there [19:02] LnxSlck: Ack, stop giving bad advice. Don't use slacky.eu. Use Slackbuilds.org. [19:02] agentc0re, that's what said (argh...) [19:02] and oh yuh, one more question, to get my wireless up, i have to do modprobe ieee80211_crypt_tkip, then insmod wl.so everytime, any way to auto config it? [19:02] agentc0re, Golden|Wolf, but that is not the slackware way, my young padwan [19:02] ;) [19:02] and make sure dchpcd scans eth1 not eth0 on startup [19:03] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:03] Golden|Wolf: Only use slackbuilds.org to look for packages. If it's not there, build it from source or make a Slackbuild for it. If you don't know how to do that, just ask for some help. [19:04] Golden|Wolf: http://slackbook.org [19:04] LnxSlck: well i guess that ok, if you don't have eau de moola at your disposal. [19:04] Golden|Wolf: That's a really good start. [19:04] thanks [19:04] antler, and what's that? [19:04] Golden|Wolf: Also, http://slackwiki.org [19:05] related to my mod question? [19:05] LnxSlck: money-scented fragrance [19:05] antler, nice one [19:05] markux: you can also edit fstab and just use mount [19:06] defcon1: that is ok for the partitions, but when i insert an usb volume , it can't be mounted [19:06] plugdev group? [19:07] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-35d549d82e3eb4cc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:08] antler: how is that? [19:08] markux: are you in the plugdev group? [19:08] markux: open a terminal and type: grep "plugdev" /etc/group [19:09] markux: then paste the output here [19:09] sould i add to that group? [19:09] markux, 'gpasswd -a username plugdev' [19:10] markux: if the user is not in that group, then [19:10] yeah, do what dive said [19:10] then log out of X, log out of console, log back in etc [19:11] nice, i didn0t know about that tool [19:11] thats great [19:12] ty men [19:13] hey how can i get the icedtea or openjdk? i try to download it from sun but the .bin file don't work :S and try to get it from slacky and there isn't [19:14] markux, jdk is included on slack dvd/cd [19:14] /extra perhaps, but it's there [19:14] jayd512 (n=chatzill@96-28-95-153.dhcp.insightbb.com) left ##slackware. [19:14] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:15] ah openjdk - don't know about that, I read wrong [19:15] :S [19:15] aplogies [19:15] java is free [19:15] how do i add auto load module,insmod on startup? [19:15] jdk --- openjdk [19:15] i guess [19:15] well jdk is on cd/dvd for sure [19:16] if you don't have disk look on slackware pacak [19:16] but i installed all the packages on that category and i cant make a" javac" [19:16] .. package browser [19:16] and can'r compile any that need java [19:17] did you look in /extra on dvd/cd? [19:17] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:18] anyone has idea? [19:18] well dive, i'll look for it [19:18] markux (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) left irc: "Leaving." [19:18] Golden|Wolf, had it to rc.local or something [19:19] Golden|Wolf, add '/sbin/modprobe ' to the correct /etc/rc.modules- [19:19] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [19:19] sorry [19:19] /etc/rc.d/rc.modules... [19:19] yo chopp :) [19:20] Sair (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) joined ##slackware. [19:20] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@mpd-1047.tvcom.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [19:20] hey antler [19:20] antler, you running current? [19:20] LnxSlck: no, i would never do that. not with my skill level. [19:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] antler: how goes it in cowtown [19:21] antler, my level is pretty low but i still i run it [19:21] lol [19:21] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [19:21] chopp: not bad, man. warmer today. and up north? how's it there? [19:22] antler: about the same, spring might get here after all. [19:22] can i also load other calls in rc.local? like insmod [19:22] chopp: didn't the groundhog see his shadow? [19:22] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:22] er wait.. chopp, you live further north than antler? [19:22] this is the error http://rafb.net/p/QRrFbm61.html [19:23] when I try to mount anything [19:23] alaska? [19:23] dive: yes, Edmonton. [19:23] dive: close. edmonton is like alaska [19:23] :P [19:23] heh [19:23] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-17-103-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:23] Golden|Wolf (i=500@69.171.128.245) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:24] antler: I do believe Alaska would be better than this chit hole. [19:24] v4nelle (n=van@adsl96-127.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:24] Sair, this is in X right? What does the command 'groups' in console output? [19:24] chopp: maybe, but where in alaska would you ride your chopper? [19:25] dive: my user? [19:25] yes [19:25] dive: users plugdev [19:25] antler: good point, but I need to get back to work before I get ANY riding time in. [19:26] Sair, what are you trying to mount? [19:26] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:26] what line of work, chopp ? [19:26] a cd [19:27] the USA is Canada's Mexico [19:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:27] lies [19:28] dive: sair ? [19:28] omg [19:28] its true, i read it on the internet so it just has to be true ;P [19:28] Nick change: Sair -> Markux [19:28] Sair, you need some more groups I think, type this as root: 'usermod -G power audio video cdrom ' [19:28] antler: I was a directional driller, then lost my license for awhile, so have been ashphalt paving here the last few years in edmonton. [19:29] Markux, then when that's done log out of X, log out of console, log back in, startx and try [19:29] dive: that is for fcreate that groups ? [19:29] chopp: i'm somewhat envious if you're part of a tight crew [19:29] Markux, that adds you user to those groups [19:30] but you need to log out FULLY to see any changes [19:30] dive : like gpasswd? [19:30] antler: the work is ok, but a drastic decrease in income. [19:30] yes it's similar [19:30] but with gpasswd you can only add one at a time [19:31] usermod will allow you add more [19:32] dive: are you sure of that syntax? the username [19:32] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.94.134.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:32] chopp: these days any income that's steady is good income :) [19:33] wait [19:33] -U [19:33] ? [19:33] Golden|Wolf (i=500@69.171.128.245) joined ##slackware. [19:33] Markux, 'usermod -G floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power scanner ' [19:34] NyteOwl: true that. Soon as this damn snow's gone, I'll be ok again. [19:34] sorry guys, how do i change dhcpcd device on started from eth0 to eth1 [19:34] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-76-254-4-199.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [19:34] Markux, wrong syntax I think [19:34] chopp: we got dumped on Monday night. It looked like the end of January here Tuesday [19:34] Golden|Wolf: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [19:35] dive usermod username -G floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power scanner [19:35] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [19:35] weird weather this year [19:35] thanks [19:35] chopp: though I think I may have tempted fate. I bought a can of Thompson water seal to do the deck once it was nice and dry [19:35] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] dive: ;-) [19:35] that was Monday afternoon. then it snowed Monday night [19:36] Markux, 'usermod -G floppy,audio,video,cdrom,plugdev,power,scanner ' [19:36] chopp: ever consider hooking up with the city of edmonton? because rain or shine, they got your six. [19:36] NyteOwl: how big of a dump did you get? We got a bit, but not much. It's melting at a quick pace now. [19:36] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@dhcp13292.salley.fsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:36] I forgot about the commas [19:36] ah chopp: thats just net config, i want to change which device is scanned on starting [19:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:36] chopp: it's about 6" deep on my deck - which was bare Monday at suppertime [19:36] dive: usermod -G floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power scanner [19:36] it works for me [19:37] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:37] antler: it's tough to get on with them unless you know someone. [19:37] it's all melting off the streets and sidewalks and what not. it's been nice today and a lot melted. Justb an unwanted emss [19:37] dive I speak spanish :P [19:37] really? what does 'groups' output now? [19:37] chopp: same here in calgary, yeah [19:37] chopp: when the snow plow went up the street Tuesday at 8am he left a pile about 2.5' deep across the driveway [19:38] dive: the same :S [19:38] just 2 [19:38] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:38] Markux, 'usermod -G floppy,audio,video,cdrom,plugdev,power,scanner username' will work [19:38] NyteOwl: PEI or NS? [19:38] i try it too [19:38] and no error [19:38] chopp: NS [19:38] both [19:38] NyteOwl: right sorry. :) [19:39] do i need to reestart X before ? [19:39] s'ok [19:39] Golden|Wolf (i=500@69.171.128.245) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:39] Action: NyteOwl is S-I-C-K of winter [19:39] Markux, if the command worked you should see more groups with 'groups' command [19:39] Nyteowl, I will trade you winter for tornados and heavy rain [19:40] DeiBellum: no thanks :) [19:40] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-95-98-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [19:40] and we get the rain sometimes too [19:40] :) [19:40] NyteOwl, ah, we just got back from a tornado warning and 65mph winds with rain and hail [19:41] sooo, people of the internet [19:41] no thanks [19:41] how fares thee [19:41] lol ok [19:41] NyteOwl: when I was on the rigs, I would rather work in -40 than the rain. I wouldn't live on the west coast for anything. [19:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:42] id rather live on the west coast and not get hit by hurricanes than live on the east coast and get hit [19:42] thats just me though [19:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:42] plus, everything happens earlier out there, so i can call ahead and ask how tomorrow will be. :P [19:42] Fortuantely wqe seldom get hurricane force widns this far north. One every few years maybe [19:43] Markux (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) left irc: "Leaving." [19:43] never for long though [19:43] Sair (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) joined ##slackware. [19:44] dive: i restarted X a now i'm in the groups [19:44] ok [19:44] it shoul work.. [19:44] sorry dive, but it doesn't [19:45] i still cannot mount anything [19:45] the same error [19:45] chopp: if I couldn't have the east coast I'd take the west. I like the opcean [19:45] A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") [19:45] Sair, did you log out of the console where you started X? [19:46] is hald started? [19:46] dive: do you think the problem is of the x? [19:46] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-15-114.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [19:46] and then log back in? [19:46] X sever [19:46] NyteOwl: Don't get me wrong, I love the mountains, ocean, and everything else about the west coast, just the rain I could not handle. [19:46] you have to log out of the console that X is started in [19:47] + you might also want to restart hald, messagebus also [19:47] mount: only root can do that [19:47] that is the msj when i try to mount [19:47] Sair: i think he's asked you to post the output of groups. since he's trying to help you, why not comply? [19:48] Sair, mount is different to your error in X [19:48] dive: yes it is [19:48] Sair, do you have the cdrom in /etc/fstab? [19:49] Nick change: faffi -> faffi_ [19:49] Sair, in fact can you pastebin your /etc/fstab at pastebin.ca please? [19:49] dive: ok [19:50] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [19:50] Nick change: faffi_ -> faffi [19:50] Sair (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) left irc: "Leaving." [19:51] NyteOwl, I'd personally prefer living in the midwest, specifically around Iowa. I grew up out there, and its a very nice lifestyle. [19:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-69-236-84-41.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:52] Cotowar: I was born in Minnesota. Summer's too hot and winter's too cold :) [19:52] plus no ocean :) [19:52] Where at in Minnesota? [19:52] lol, I was born there too! [19:52] Alexandria [19:52] NyteOwl, sounds like England - always it's too hot or too cold [19:52] ah, my grandparents were from Wabasha/winona area [19:53] I'm from Owatonna [19:53] though I haven't lived there in like 15 years... [19:53] the state bird is the mosquito [19:53] DeiBellum: Dad was from Minneapolis, grandparents lived in Plymouth [19:53] that much i know [19:53] NyteOwl, cool, unfortunately I am heading up there this weekend but it is because my grandfather passed away [19:53] Thats because Minnesota is the most badass state in the union. [19:54] "we didn't land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock landed on us!" [19:54] DeiBellum: my condolences [19:54] same plymouth ? [19:54] DeiBellum, that sucks man, sorry [19:54] NyteOwl, thanks [19:54] phrag: no [19:54] ah, nm =P [19:54] Cotowar, thanks, it is my 2nd grandparent this year [19:55] ouch man, yea i lost two last year. [19:56] if it makes you feel any better, you can join me in #ubuntu-women [19:56] lol [19:56] lol, i think i will pass [19:56] Action: NyteOwl isn't going to ask [19:56] girls are always hottest on the internet [19:57] as opposed to ? [19:57] especially when you have seen the same pic for two different girls you are talking too =P [19:57] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:57] i dunno man, i think the hottest girl is which ever one is on top of me [19:57] girls are all soft and squidgy in r/l [19:57] nullboy, wins [19:57] how do you know it's their pic? [19:58] NyteOwl, thats the joke [19:58] I keep getting offers of marriage from russian girls - and they all seem to share the same photo [19:58] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:58] dive, Take the Plunge! Do it! [19:58] Say yes! [19:58] dive: its called spam [19:59] and they all look like they just stepped out of a 70's disco [19:59] Action: NyteOwl pased up a pic of Vin Deisel as Riddick to point his new web cam at if anyome asks for a pic [19:59] it was that or Charltyon he4sston as Moses [19:59] m disco - dancing where you actually hold onto your partner :P [19:59] russian brides is so 1990's [20:00] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.9) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:00] 1990's is so 1980's [20:01] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:01] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [20:01] bbiab [20:01] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "exit stage left" [20:02] LnxSlck (i=1000@88.214.129.135) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:03] bbiab [20:04] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [20:09] Sair (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) joined ##slackware. [20:09] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:09] Nick change: Sair -> Markux [20:10] dive: i fix the cd problem adding users to the options in the fstab [20:10] Markux, if you have cdrom in fstab then hald will honour permissions it that [20:11] dive::S [20:11] which is why I wanted to see your fstab [20:11] but if it works and you are happy then that's ok too [20:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [20:13] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [20:14] dive, i want to try what you say [20:14] if it works then that's fine [20:14] so quick question... what is the res of the standard linux console? [20:14] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [20:15] you could comment out the fstab line with a # [20:15] it works only for cdrom, but usb still wrong [20:15] Cotowar, depends on your pgu and monitor [20:15] gpu* [20:15] oh, okay [20:15] thanks [20:16] Cotowar, and of course what you set in /etc/lilo.conf [20:16] Markux, do you have a line in fstab for usb? [20:16] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:17] kde users, how do i get ssh-agent to run at startup? [20:17] kde4 [20:17] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] umm, what if i dont have a specified domain name [20:19] nvm, just took care of that [20:19] dive:i don't think so [20:20] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:20] and do i need a ".org" or ".com" on the end of my domain name? [20:20] or any ending in general? [20:23] Cotowar, Don't be a rookie [20:23] :o [20:23] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:23] Markux, I want to see your fstab - put it up at pastebin.ca or pastebin.com and give me the link please [20:24] Cotowar_ (n=mike@adsl-235-21-62.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Markux, or rafb.net [20:24] Cotowar, you can put anything you like afaik [20:24] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:25] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] okay cool [20:25] http://rafb.net/p/YV6sxw56.html [20:25] is the DHCP hostname the name of my network? like the SSID? [20:26] Markux, are you getting the same error as cdrom or different? [20:26] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.98) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) left irc: "Leaving" [20:27] Cotowar, DHCP hostname is a unique identifier like a hostname used by the DHCP server to assign you the correct address. [20:27] If you don't know if you need it or not, you don't need it. [20:28] dive : same [20:28] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:28] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:28] Markux, /etc/rc.d/rc.hald restart [20:28] kk. thanks [20:28] and try again [20:29] Markux, also /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus restart [20:29] ThoriuM (n=mileandr@86.121.193.60) joined ##slackware. [20:29] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: "Leaving." [20:29] dive: now the problem is Connection is closed [20:29] ThoriuM (n=mileandr@86.121.193.60) left ##slackware. [20:30] strange [20:30] I'm almost thinking reboot [20:30] or restart X first [20:30] and try again [20:31] (##slackware) Channel ban on ArchNeo!*@* expired. [20:31] ##slackware: mode change '-b ArchNeo!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:31] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-95-98-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:32] k1k0 (n=k1k0@20158132185.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:32] ok ive [20:32] dive ;) [20:32] Markux (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) left irc: "Leaving." [20:32] Sair (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Nick change: Sair -> Markux [20:33] dive: now work :D [20:33] phew :-) [20:33] does anyone in here have experience with blackbox WM? [20:33] Cotowar, ages ago... [20:33] dive: witch was the prblem? [20:34] Markux, well I think it's because restarting hald or messagebus needs X restarting [20:34] dive: is it user-friendly? or am i going to have to spend days figuring it out? how about flux, any experience with that? [20:34] Cotowar_, yes load of erperience with flux [20:35] flux is a branch of blackbox [20:35] im on really low-end hardware, so stuff like gnome + compiz + full desktop effects would like...start my PC on fire. [20:35] as far as I can recll it is a big improvment [20:35] flux is pretty awesome. [20:35] flux is minimal bloat, flux is easy to configure, flux seldom fails yet quickly loads, has my recommendation [20:35] Cotowar_, try xfce first to see if that runs ok [20:35] The config file is really easy. [20:36] i dont like xfce, and yea, it works [20:36] then I would go with flux rather than black [20:36] okay, and whats the reason? ive never used either so im curious [20:36] is it easier? or more fully featured? [20:36] usability [20:36] okay [20:36] thanks [20:37] easier to configure [20:37] more features [20:37] alright, yea id like it to be a little easier the first time through [20:37] didn't use black for long [20:37] uuf dive, thank you very much men [20:37] Markux, np [20:37] i dont really need a fancy WM, im not going to be on the desktop much, im mostly going to be SSH-ing in [20:38] I like flux very much, [20:38] dive: you know, i'm a spanish speaker, for me was a ltittle hard :P [20:39] is it bad practice to set all my root pw's the same on all my computers? [20:39] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-21-62.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] ? [20:39] dive:thank you very much [20:39] there is a #slackware.br which is Brazillian but I think they speak more Spanish there [20:39] Cotowar_: yes [20:39] agentc0re|work: tried ffmpeg .5 again, defined static = no for both ffmpeg and qt4, result: http://pastebin.ca/1380467 [20:39] Nick change: Cotowar_ -> Cotowar [20:39] Im start flux with kde tools, because i can use kedit firefox konqueror etc [20:39] dive: i like english [20:39] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-221-216.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [20:39] ok :P [20:39] battlemidget: okay thanks [20:39] this is the first time ive ever had more than one computer with linux, so i dont know these things [20:39] Cotowar: if you need to keep track of pwds, make sure you encrypt the file [20:40] and put it on a thumb drive to keep with you at all times [20:40] Cotowar_ have a very strong password if it is the same on multiple machines [20:40] i even encrypt the partitions on the thubm drive [20:40] or we can tattoo it on your arse for $10 [20:40] lol [20:40] i personally just write them down and hide the paper [20:40] dive: you pay him, or he pays you? :P [20:40] F-it [20:40] lol [20:41] antler, yeah good question [20:41] like seriously, what are you going to do...hack my computer and delete my music? OOOOO!!!! I'll just pirate it all again... [20:41] Cotowar: just as long as you know thats not secure [20:41] yea i know [20:41] i need an ironkey [20:42] heh, xkcd had something to say about encryption [20:42] Cotowar, depends a lot on what other security you have - do you want to run sshd, are you behing a router/firewall etc? [20:42] http://xkcd.com/538/ [20:42] ^win [20:42] dive: im behind a router yea, and the computer im setting up is for movies and music only [20:43] dive: there are no personal files on there, and never will be [20:43] Cotowar: fail2ban is a good service to run [20:43] googling that one [20:43] Cotowar: what's your problem? [20:44] and why aren't you using samba? =p [20:44] umm...IDK? [20:44] Cotowar, if you run sshd then disallow root login in /etc/ssh/sshd_config [20:44] dive: always do [20:44] and you can use rsa keys [20:45] I doubt you got much to worry about then [20:45] that's security for the sake of being paranoid... >.> [20:45] MaCaDe (n=martijn@inlv.demon.nl) left ##slackware. [20:45] yea [20:45] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] brb [20:45] all you need is to disallow remote root and run samba... problem solved =p [20:46] dont know what samba is... [20:46] if someone hacks your router, you were f'd from the beginning... [20:46] yep [20:46] www.samba.org [20:47] samba is file-sharing made deathly easy [20:47] ahh [20:47] heh it's interesting to think about the damage some of the peeps can do in her to other people [20:47] 's systems if they wanted to [20:48] lol [20:48] i use it on my servers here at the office... we only have 1 windows server (w2k3)... the rest are slackware boxen running samba [20:48] *in here [20:48] antler: it's scary to think that passwords are the most secure thing in the world... refer to the xkcd comic ;) [20:49] if someone has enough time and money to hack your box or your usb stick, they'll do it... [20:49] damnit. rephrase: it's intersting to think about how much damage some people in here can do to other people's systems if they really wanted to [20:49] Necos: link? [20:49] charles__ (n=charles@c-71-224-53-206.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] http://xkcd.com/538/ [20:50] hahah [20:50] Personally, I'd like a boot dongle for my system. not a bootable USB, but a dongle so that boot wont go past a certain point without it [20:50] and thank you Necos, that was great [20:51] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] be practical about security, not overly stupid for the sake of being paranoid [20:51] lol [20:52] you mean you dont write your own encryption algorithms? [20:52] you don't write your own encryption algorithms because you're more likely to get it wrong [20:52] Markux (n=usuario@212.116.219.52) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:53] Phlogisten (n=i@pool-71-255-211-240.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] do you ever wonder if the government watches your every move? like with the GPS in most phones, online bnking, lojack/on-star/GPS in cars, and all that crap? [20:54] and you don't make something overly complex because your security is only as strong as the weakest layer... [20:54] the government does and it really doesn't matter, because you still bought the cell phone :) [20:55] like i was thinking the other day about how hard it would be to completely disappear electronically. i mean, they will still have record of you, but could you hide yourself if you tried? [20:55] i honestly dont think you can anymore... [20:56] i mean, 20 years ago, you could get away with some stuff still, 100 years ago, you could get away with a LOT of stuff... [20:56] now you pretty much cant. [20:56] it makes me :( [20:56] yes you can... go live in the damn jungle... you just wouldn't want to [20:56] you would need to become completly cut off from almost all modern life - hind in the mountains and hunt to live [20:56] s/hind/hide [20:57] but it would work fine if you met up with like-minded people and set up a social group - or it would be very lonely [20:58] aside from becoming a hermit, i dont think you can [20:58] what about that group of people that live like it's still the 19th century in usa? [20:58] hey! install is done! [20:58] forget the name... [20:58] are you talking about the amish? [20:58] yeah them [20:59] even they use modern technology now to some extent [20:59] hmm [20:59] they drive cars, and some have lights [20:59] oh well [20:59] its gay [20:59] 1 sec, gotta label my CD's [20:59] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) joined ##slackware. [21:00] lol [21:00] antler: Lol, why did you even try again? [21:00] antler: I'm uploading my stuff to ftp now and i'll have it up once it's done. [21:02] okay, can someone please help me setup my system? [21:03] huh? =p [21:03] i installed fine, but i have a console and no WM [21:03] i have no users, only root [21:03] and i dont even now where to start [21:03] Cotowar, read the slackbook [21:03] lol [21:03] so long in as root and then run adduser ;) [21:03] add your first user [21:03] shows you how to add users and setup X [21:03] Necos, good idea [21:03] _THEN_ read the slackbook [21:03] and dive, you too [21:03] thanks [21:03] agentc0re: just for something to do. you've tried it already, yeah? [21:04] Cotowar, just remember when you adduser it will ask for groups - press up arrow [21:04] yea [21:06] so yea, there is definitely a learning curve on slackware... [21:06] i never realized how much i relied on the GUI...... [21:06] lol [21:07] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] does slackware support that logitech air mouse thing? [21:07] where you can wave it around and it does shit? [21:08] it's just a mouse [21:08] lol [21:08] Slackware doesn't support anything - the kernel does [21:08] i've used Gyro mice, bluetooth, usb ps2 blah blah [21:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:08] i used a wii remote as my mouse too [21:08] now that would be fun [21:09] did you do the IR thing that was on youtube for it? [21:09] i did the IR thing but i made it myself [21:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:09] yea [21:09] some dude made a little array of IR LEDs and youtubed it working [21:09] it was pretty neat [21:10] ir leds? [21:10] what was the point? [21:10] can't see ir [21:10] umm [21:10] wiimote uses ir [21:10] hehe [21:10] the wii remote uses IR [21:10] lol [21:10] so its picking up the signal that the wiimote gives off [21:11] it has a motion sensor that works like a solid state gyro and it also detects IR points out in the space in front of it [21:11] Cotowar: no... [21:11] if i built something I would want either big flashing visible leds or some strong enough to burn a hole through sheet steel [21:11] the remote reads two IR points out in front of it [21:11] he did it differently than what you did im thinking [21:11] he had the wiimote on top of the TV with an IR array around it, and reflective tape on his fingers [21:12] there is no communication between the remote and the IR LEDs [21:12] ah yeah I remember that I think [21:12] Are there any terminal IRC clients that can do a vertical and horizontal split? [21:12] was that the 3D thing? [21:12] mogunus, irssi [21:12] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:13] i think.. [21:13] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] dive: really? I thought it could only split horizontal. This is why I am considering moving away from it. How do you do that? [21:13] maybe on;y horiz then [21:13] dive: i dont remember, i remember he had multi-touch going though. it was sweet [21:13] the remote only detects the points of the IR LEDs. position is determined using the wii remote's motion sensor input combined with the "video" feed of the IR points [21:13] mogunus, if not, I doubt any other term irc clients do it [21:13] Sigh. ERC it is then. [21:14] im looking for the video so you can see what im talking about. he wasn't holding the wiimote like an actual mouse [21:14] IC [21:14] mogunus, dunno I have separate windows instead of splitting [21:14] makes life much easier [21:14] dive: what probram? [21:14] ...program [21:15] irssi [21:15] ehh, i cant find it [21:15] /window new hide; /join [21:15] then alt+N for window number N [21:15] heh, you can do that with epic with the hienoa script =p [21:16] Oh, yeah, but I want to see four channels at once. [21:16] nullboy, here we go [21:16] I'm moving to an AIM gateway for IRC because pidgin is making me horribly angry. [21:16] nullboy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0awjPUkBXOU [21:16] it was something like this [21:17] mogunus, I don't know about vertical splits [21:18] Cotowar: .... [21:18] ? [21:18] don't you see how that works? [21:18] the LED's aren't feeding any data to anything [21:18] his fingers are reflecting the IR light from the array back into the Wii remote [21:18] yea thats what i said earlier [21:19] not really [21:19] but whatever [21:19] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] could you set something like that up as a mouse though? [21:20] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [21:20] i did [21:20] I have two directories where are identical 147 files in both plus one that is in a single directory, how do I figure out which is the additional file of all [21:21] i went and bought a wiimote specifically to make it work as a mouse and after i made it work how i wanted o took it back for a refund because i was done with it [21:22] lol [21:22] or better two directories and each directory has 147 identical files, plus there's an additional file that isnt in both directories and I need to check which file is it recursively in both directories [21:22] use diff [21:22] Kerio2004 (n=Port@94.98.168.150) left irc: [21:23] but one of those directories has a tree structure and the other doesnt [21:23] use diff... [21:23] the wiimote is just a bluetooth HID device with a little extra API to deal with the motion feeds [21:24] diff doesnt seems to ignore the directory structure [21:24] it seems to list everything [21:24] what are the group indicator and group switcher options? [21:25] these are ok but not so great for gaming http://www.gyration.com/ [21:25] diff -r [21:25] and they will make you mad if you try to use it with google earth [21:26] what are the XKB options? [21:26] like do i need them? [21:26] x keyboard? [21:26] possibly [21:26] but diff -r takes in count the path of the files [21:27] i dont know, it says group switcher, group indicator, etc. [21:27] dive: ^ [21:27] errr [21:27] so i think i dont need it [21:27] where are your now?> [21:27] xorgconfig [21:27] just set up the mouse and keyboard [21:27] that sounds like kde setup [21:27] ah [21:27] i dont know, i picked flux on the installation [21:28] long time since i used xorgconfig... [21:28] hey dissociative [21:28] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] you're wrong :) [21:28] diff -r dir1/ dir22/ [21:28] should i Ctrl + C and do it with xorgsetup? [21:28] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-83-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] Cotowar, no carry on [21:29] too late...im a nub [21:29] brightwebworks (n=brightwe@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [21:29] run it again then [21:29] Only in code/: test.c <--- for example [21:30] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-66-212-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] I get this: bash-3.1$ diff /media/vieja/ /home/hector/CD/vieja/ | wc -l [21:30] 153 [21:30] erm [21:31] diff -r I mean [21:31] they spit the same output [21:31] did you actually look at the output? [21:31] k1k0 (n=k1k0@20158132185.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [21:32] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:32] brightwebworks (n=brightwe@216.189.209.126) left irc: "Leaving" [21:32] doesn't diff -r spit out something at the end like 'blabla only exists in dir xxx'? [21:33] I know -ur does [21:33] maybe it's the -u [21:33] brightwebworks (n=brightwe@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [21:34] http://www.pastebin.ca/1380515 [21:34] yes, they do... [21:34] lol http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1238722417154.jpg [21:35] echel0n (n=ch0wn@189.32.218.214) left irc: [21:36] http://www.break.com/index/dmv_drivers_license_photo_prank_part2.html [21:38] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:38] agentc0re: nullboy: This is a nice one: http://www.thestar.com/article/504515 (Adnams Broadside Strong Orginal) [21:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:38] dissociative: so ummmm, what was that again? [21:38] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] http://pastebin.ca/1380518 [21:39] 6.3% might as well drink rum and coke :) [21:39] Pioneer surgery can be interesting to read about. Removing an arrow from the shoulder of a hunter who had carried it in his flesh for more than 2 years. [21:39] Necos: not even by far the strongest beer I had. :) [21:40] Necos, which beer is this? [21:40] Action: Necos points up [21:40] I had a pretty nice dogfish the other day. 9% :D [21:40] pi31415, sounds like a good dig with a pointy instrument [21:40] hiptobecubic: http://www.thestar.com/article/504515 (Adnams Broadside Strong Orginal) [21:40] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:40] Action: hiptobecubic points out that he just logged in [21:40] BP{k}, thanks [21:40] Action: Necos prods hiptobecubic repeatedly [21:41] wow the DMV vid was great [21:41] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:41] Action: dive regrets that he has his ration of old speckled hen for tonight [21:41] only caffeine left11 [21:42] i like steel reserve [21:42] it makes me feel manly [21:43] you don't feel manly oterwise? [21:43] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:43] otherwise* [21:43] i wonder when xfce4.6 will be sneaking into -current [21:43] otterwise sounds better ;) [21:43] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [21:43] brightwebworks (n=brightwe@216.189.209.126) left irc: Connection reset by peer [21:43] vatgas3 (n=val@123.145.46.151) joined ##slackware. [21:44] otters beware - /me has had a few ales and is on the lookout [21:44] vastina, usually im just kind of here. but when i drink SR, i feel more "Mountain man"-ish [21:44] you from some mountanous region? [21:44] christ i can't spell worth shit [21:44] hiptobecubic: strongest I had so far (as I can remember) is a Grolsch Cannon .. which comes in at around 11% [21:44] lol [21:45] BP{k}: Heh, good slogan for the beer, "At 6.3 per cent alcohol, Broadside lives up to it's name, which in naval terms refers to all cannons on one side of the ship firing at once" [21:45] and right now im by the mountains yes [21:45] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.208.28.158) joined ##slackware. [21:45] yeah, try an Avery Mephistopheles from Boulder, 17% abv [21:45] BP{k}, hehe. But was it any good? [21:45] hiptobecubic: my memory is a bit hazy there ;) [21:45] BP{k}, fair enough [21:46] Cotowar: what mountains? [21:46] lol [21:46] vastina, thats some serious shit right there. and sidenote, default flux is ghetto! [21:46] appalachian [21:46] im in N. Carolina [21:46] Cotowar: no, it's lightweight, you make your own beauty on a flux desktop [21:47] LanGuard (n=TxT@11.pool85-56-42.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [21:47] ha ha those aren't mountains! Colorado! [21:47] yea, i see that [21:47] vastina, i grew up in illinois, and went to school in iowa. speed bumps are a big deal to me [21:47] LanGuard (n=TxT@11.pool85-56-42.dynamic.orange.es) left ##slackware. [21:47] haha [21:48] and yea, i did a backpacking trip in the rockies in new mexico [21:48] default flux? ah vim ~/.fluxbox/menu those were the days... [21:48] beautiful down there aren't they? especially santa fe [21:48] http://classicfun.ws/paid-to-do-it-but-fails-to-make-his-friends-wife-pregnant-after-72-attempts/2009/04/01 [21:48] I'm from florida. Anthills are the only topography we get. [21:48] The link says it all. [21:48] haha [21:48] hiptobecubic: haha nice, oh and you get every type of fungus down there as well [21:49] Cotowar: here is a flux desktop. http://www.casebliss.com/tmp/screenshot.jpg [21:49] yea, i loved it. i was by raton. we climbed mount phillips and could see the ski slopes in colorado, they were empty though as it was in july... [21:49] ... wow, 30min after i downloaded the 2.6.29 kernel 2.6.29.1 is released >.< [21:49] chopp, yea, it can look really nice, im just used to gnome though. never used flux before [21:49] go into the interior of the continental divide here in colorado in the high country, amazing [21:49] and its pretty fast so far [21:50] Cotowar: flux's highlight is how fast and light-weight it is [21:50] chopp: nice background :) [21:50] nice conky setup [21:50] BP{k}: thanks, I like it. :) [21:51] 2.6.29 is interesting [21:51] and my pride and joy on the laptop http://www.casebliss.com/tmp/screenshot_X31.jpg [21:51] s/interesting/broken [21:52] chopp: thats awesome [21:52] chopp: nice :) [21:53] why does it say bash 3.1# when i open xterm? [21:53] because that's the bash prompt >.> [21:53] damn, that kid looks dangerous [21:53] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.208.28.158) left irc: "leaving" [21:53] chopp, do you name every box "slack"? [21:54] Cotowar: because xterm opens a non-interactive shell?: [21:54] and no, it only look's like a knife. ;) [21:54] Cotowar: see bash(1) - INVOCATION [21:55] hiptobecubic: at the time, a couple were yes. [21:55] chopp, using network on the laptop i take it? [21:55] i mean wifi [21:56] why don't you try my conkyrc with wifi enabled [21:56] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts [21:56] chopp, would you mind posting that background image? [21:56] Mapianka (i=mapman@dynamic-78-8-51-143.ssp.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:56] somewhere [21:56] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Client Quit [21:57] dive: thanks. :) [21:57] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:57] hiptobecubic: sure, just give me a minute. [21:57] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:58] they should show the mms://thefuckingip.com so i can just copy/paste it into mplayer tired of these damn embedded media windows only loving websites [21:58] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-21b410a3b1e9e89c) joined ##slackware. [21:58] lol [21:59] vatgas (n=val@123.145.50.154) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:59] so rackable systems is buying sgi [22:00] was not sure if that was a joke or not [22:00] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:00] it's now a joke [22:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:01] what the hell that wasn't a joke? [22:01] nachox: is it? so the papers they filed with the sec [22:01] is nothing [22:01] http://tinyurl.com/da6zrn [22:02] hiptobecubic: http://www.casebliss.com/tmp/hand.png [22:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:02] chopp, thanks [22:02] hiptobecubic: you're welcome. [22:03] nullboy, did you ever scrounge up that modified build script for minefield? [22:03] yes! [22:04] step 1) install the slamd64 pkghelpers package [22:04] chopp, thank you as well [22:05] it doesnt look as good with gnome... [22:05] or at least my current setup of gnome [22:05] wow hp lost their wifi case guess that will mean other companies will lose their cases as well.... [22:05] kitche: linky for that? [22:07] http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/2242204&art_pos=1 [22:07] thanks [22:07] MapMan (i=mapman@dynamic-78-8-52-57.ssp.dialog.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:08] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:09] hrm, well, looks like we need new wifi standards [22:09] This is only binding in Australia, right? [22:10] hiptobecubic: PM ok? [22:11] http://xkcd.com/398/ <--- so sad [22:11] eviljames: umm not sure since it could be part of the UN copyright laws as well [22:12] Necos, thats great [22:12] dive: I just checked my laptop out, and I'm allready running one of your conky scripts modified. Not like the screenshot. :) [22:12] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-15-114.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] ic [22:13] conky is kinda wierd... [22:13] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [22:13] i started running it 'cause my coworkers wanted to see something like rainmeter / litestep on my desktop... [22:14] and this is... just wrong: http://xkcd.com/333/ [22:14] one of the scripts on my site was made by sqdrnguns from lq forum [22:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:14] http://xkcd.com/400/ [22:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:14] BP{k}: http://theviceblog.com/2009/02/05/uinta-fifteenth-anniversary-barley-wine/ [22:15] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA [22:15] power rangers fail [22:16] hi alienBOB - I have a new install of slack 12.2 with a few probs - I am trying to get by in xbox and cl and am quite rusty [22:17] Action: antler oils gem_cat [22:17] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:17] I have apache up with php and mysql and am stuck getting phpmyadmin working [22:18] what's not working? [22:18] is it failing in the config? etc... [22:19] it says 'phpadmin was unable to read your configuration file!' [22:19] srn9 (n=bones@24-113-45-244.wavecable.com) joined ##slackware. [22:19] srn9 (n=bones@24-113-45-244.wavecable.com) left ##slackware. [22:19] i take to be some permissions/users prob [22:19] then that means you have permission issues... [22:19] you need to make .conf file readable by everyone [22:20] thanks for the oil antler - does it help with monkeys? [22:20] chmod a+rwx file <--- i think phpmyadmin needs to write configuration data too initiallly [22:21] http://xkcd.com/72/ <---- evil [22:21] i shall try Necos - [22:24] well, i'm out of here... laters :) [22:26] not so good Necos - I will keep beating on it til it yields - thanks anyway [22:28] anyone have any info on the best way to debug my attempts at getting an Intel 82Q35 graphics card working properly in Xorg? [22:28] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [22:30] glad I made it to the bathroom on time ..... just now [22:31] bbl [22:34] i just found out that some assholes robbed two different people at two different times along one of the routes i use for daily walks [22:34] [celia] (n=slack@189.81.166.24) joined ##slackware. [22:35] is xf86-video-intel installed in stock slackware? [22:35] yes [22:35] <[celia]> o/ [22:36] gotcha thanks kitche [22:36] Action: kitche is trying to get the taste of vomit out of his mouth .... [22:36] Phlogisten (n=i@pool-71-255-211-240.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:36] HellDragon2 (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [22:36] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:36] Nick change: HellDragon2 -> HellDragon [22:36] ezrafree: not a problem [22:36] just drink a beer, it's easy to barf beer back up [22:37] it's like barfing lube [22:37] kitche: really? you made it on time? did you have an appointment? [22:37] how do i save and exit a file in vim? [22:37] think the pizza I had along with the lotion made me sick since I feel find now [22:37] sounds like he had an appointment with the porcelain gods [22:37] I think I have consumed enough malt beverages for one evening. Buzz.......happening [22:38] beerz [22:38] i have no beers. [22:38] only Canadian Rye [22:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:38] Rye is good [22:38] yep [22:39] :-) [22:39] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] It better be crown royal. [22:42] i just stick to my hennessy [22:42] eviljames: Alberta Springs [22:42] WUT [22:42] i brought it back with me ;) [22:42] hey, umm....how do i stop vim from "recording" so i can leave? [22:43] Cotowar: :q [22:43] to leave [22:43] Cotowar: ie: :q! (forcefully quit) or :wq (write/quit) [22:44] esc did nothing, it was in some gay mode and wouldnt accept esc [22:44] i bet your vim session looked like this: :::::w!wwwww {ESC} {ESC} WTF :wq! [22:44] lmao [22:44] hahaha that's what my first vim session looked like [22:45] lol [22:45] i think vim is a brand of cleaning solution for the kitchen [22:45] is it possible to use xrandr to set a screen resolution? [22:45] if it's in recording mode, IIRC you press q by itself to get out [22:45] heh, luckily he didn't run ed [22:45] where all you get is ? ? ? ? [22:46] F vim. and thanks Urchlay [22:46] :q! [22:46] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:46] that's how you exit without saving changes in vim [22:46] nano! [22:46] Cotowar: heh you're quite emotional [22:46] vim is by far my favorite editor<3 [22:46] wow, so yea, back in my aero class we had to do some Fortran programming in the Joe editor [22:46] ezrafree: 3 other people have told him that, but he was stuck in macro recording mode... [22:46] Action: Urchlay *hearts* vim [22:46] Urchlay: my fault [22:46] antler: its been a long day [22:47] I've even found useful uses for the recording mode :) [22:47] useful uses? [22:47] yeah, as opposed to useless uses... [22:47] oh [22:47] from the dept. of redundancy dept. [22:47] oh, right [22:47] i missed that memme [22:48] Cotowar: Hey... did you get that memo? [22:48] yes, now that you mention it, i did [22:49] Y aknow if you didn't.. i can send it to you again [22:49] the joe editor is nice if you spent a few years using Wordstar for DOS or any of Borland's Turbo languages [22:49] "um, yah. we have sort of a problem here." -- bill lumberg [22:49] brb [22:49] tho AFAIK there's no color syntaxing in joe, so I couldn't use it for real work [22:49] there is [22:49] well, maybe [22:50] i did like 6 programs in it for a total of like 2.5 hours of work... [22:50] Action: gem_cat had successfully forgotten wordstar until unfortunately reminded [22:50] i do remember yellow words occasionally though [22:50] maybe not [22:50] haven't looked at joe in 6+ years, it may have grown some new features since then [22:50] I tried Joe.. once [22:50] 'nuff said [22:50] gem_cat: at least I didn't say EDLIN [22:50] I'd rathe ruse Emacs [22:50] (er, whoops, I guess I've said it now) [22:51] hehe [22:51] hey EDLIN made EMACS easy [22:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:51] emacs rox, vi sucks [22:51] Action: edman007 ducks [22:51] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] nano ftw [22:52] nothing is better than nano :D [22:52] nullboy: time to carry a weapon on the walks? :) [22:52] if you mean "I'd rather use nothing than use nano", then I agree :) [22:52] I like notepad On windows [22:52] hahaha [22:52] chopp: i always do but usually just a good knife and a flash light [22:52] actually I use notepad++ [22:52] wish it had a linux version [22:52] I use the editor in mc for small stuff - bluefish if I have to program [22:52] GREAT editor [22:52] not ++notepad? [22:52] Urchlay: despise nano that much, huh [22:52] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:53] antler: well it's pretty limited. No way to filter text thru external programs, for one thing. No macro language. Not even sure it has proper regex search/replace (does it?) [22:54] it does [22:54] ctrl-r [22:54] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [22:54] does it support ctags? [22:54] dunno, i only use it for basic stuff [22:54] Urchlay: no idea. my knowledge of nano's fumctions are quite limited [22:55] is [22:55] like, move the cursor over a function call like foo(bar), press the tag key, and it takes you to the definition of foo() (opening a new buffer for it, if it's in a different file) [22:56] *amazingly* useful, that [22:56] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.98) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:56] i knew a man who said he had armadillo problems - the armadillo was tatooed on his hand [22:56] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:58] im liking pico quite a bit [22:58] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:58] i can see what the hell does what [22:58] Cotowar: use nano [22:59] Cotowar: pico sucks [22:59] every time I think about pico, I think "Roscoe Picotrain" [22:59] lol [22:59] mainly because of its licensing [22:59] ill look at nano [22:59] signal11 (i=esteban@host197.quaddro.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:59] 1 sec [22:59] Cotowar: its JUST like pico.. a clone really [22:59] (Roscoe P. Coltrain, the sheriff in the old "Dukes of Hazzard" show... am I showing my age yet?) [22:59] so where is phpmyadmin looking for the config - I have it in the top-level of p..n - could it actually be looking in document root? [22:59] oh, i dont seem to have it installed... [22:59] Cotowar: doh! [23:00] i probably unchecked it during installation [23:00] because the only editor i ever use regularly is gedit [23:00] Urchlay: loved that show [23:00] along with magnum pi, a team, facts of life and different strokes [23:00] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] show my age yet? [23:01] :) [23:01] hahaha, i like the Dukes when i was a kid [23:01] Starsky & Hutch? Rockford Files? [23:01] Original Star Trek (tho I was watching reruns) [23:01] Rockford files? what was that? [23:02] Just a good ole' boys [23:02] oh rockford files hahah [23:02] because im from a city named rockford... [23:02] Hey Daisy.. come over here and sit on my lap.. we'll deal with the first thing that pops up [23:02] lol [23:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [23:02] Rockford I think was the guy's name... a detective/cop type of show [23:03] Who shot JR!? [23:03] welcome back kotter, the jeffersons, all in the family, and last, but not least, three's company [23:03] Ya know.. they NEVER said who shot JR before they ended that [23:03] I dunno, but I wanted to shoot everyone who asked "Who Shot JR" [23:03] oh yes [23:03] oh yeah dallas [23:03] wow, you guys are old [23:03] no lie [23:03] and no offense [23:03] Action: Dominian is 32 [23:03] I'm not freakin' old [23:03] Action: Urchlay shakes his cane at Cotowar... Speak up, my hearin' aid batteries are dead! [23:03] 27, bitch [23:03] Kick your ass boyee! [23:03] :) [23:03] get off my lawn [23:03] 20 [23:03] signal11 (i=esteban@host197.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] lol [23:04] pfft all youngsters [23:04] You damn kids and your new fangled music! [23:04] hahaha [23:04] have to be a bit drunk too to reminise about mediocre tv [23:04] Thunder Cats... HOOOOO! [23:04] i was just typing that ^^ [23:04] By the power of Grey Skull.. *I* am HE-MAN! [23:04] i was weened on Astroboy [23:04] oh god [23:04] Jetsons! [23:04] Flintstones [23:05] I remember the flintstones, the jetsons, power rangers (original), scooby doo, [23:05] he-man's not as old as the lone ranger cartoon [23:05] or tarzan [23:05] oh boy....good times [23:05] Ohhh I remember Lone Ranger the Series [23:05] Tanto.. [23:05] Get me my beer bitch [23:05] anyone remember tales of the crypt on nickelodeon? [23:06] Cotowar: er.. Y ou mean on HBO? [23:06] hmmm, nick at night? when that stupid skeleton would tell ghost stories? [23:06] ahh yes [23:06] I remember that [23:06] lol [23:06] the Crypt Keeper [23:06] fresh prince? [23:06] yeah, that skull-head guy was funny [23:07] man, what happened to TV... [23:07] Cotowar: OlD Age [23:07] Had to keep up with ritalin [23:07] I mean... americas next top model has some sexy ladies on it, but not always, and i can get those in my internet pr0n [23:07] Sexy ladies? [23:08] You mean "walking sticks that bitch too much" right? [23:08] dude, a few of them are fine as hell [23:08] yeah, if "has hot chicks" is the only thing a TV show or movie has going for it, it's really got nothing [23:08] most are too skinny... but a few are good [23:08] yep [23:08] the only "reality show" i ever watched was fear factor [23:09] zxh (n=red@218.26.164.24) left irc: "Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?" [23:09] i will stick to books - they fit my schedule fine [23:09] i liked watching people pussy out on easy shit [23:09] Cotowar: My wife and I love that show.. too bad its no longer on [23:09] yea [23:09] However, we love Ninja Warrier on G4 [23:09] gem_cat: agree 100%. Books > TV [23:09] did you ever see the one where they had to jump like 12 feet and cling on to a net, like 50 feet in the air? [23:09] Cotowar: oh yes [23:10] that kind of stuff is so easy [23:10] like seriously, tehy wont let you get hurt [23:10] so just go for it [23:10] Urchlay, its like a yard full of frogs - you hate to step down [23:11] antler: Sorry man, web hosting guys haven't gotten back to me yet as why ftp isn't work. Here's the script at least, http://filebin.ca/reuwju [23:11] dominian, i checked that myspace guy, and his BG is still lemonparty...lol [23:11] the girl deleted the pic though [23:13] yeah [23:13] why is imap2 in the inetd.conf file? arent they on like imap4? [23:13] its still on 3 other sites though [23:14] Maybe because it's just the default config for inetd? [23:14] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:14] can i change it? [23:14] eh, you have a text editor and root access? sure you can [23:15] and are these the services i will be using? im not exactly sure what this file is [23:15] Dominian: ping. [23:15] agentc0re: thank you. did you try running vlc yet? [23:15] did you just change the cert for the mailserver? [23:15] Cotowar: some of them. inetd.conf is for "small" services that don't run their own daemons 24/7 [23:15] or are the feds after me again? lol jk [23:15] If the line starts with a hash mark, it's not going to run [23:15] acidchild: pong [23:15] acidchild: Yeah.. the original SSl cert expired tonight at 8pm [23:15] so I reissued it for 10years [23:15] is it a bad idea to go on a city walk and carry a 4D Mag-lite? [23:15] hehe [23:15] okey :-) [23:16] antler: Yes, and it doesn't play my naruto. It says that it can't decode xvid and that it's not my fault because vlc never will or some shit. [23:16] nite all:) [23:16] antler: I gave up there and removed it. [23:16] Urchlay: alright thanks. cause like every single one of mine is commented out. [23:16] (there is some room for disagreement about what constitutes "small" services... e.g. FTP is commonly run from inetd, but also as a standalone daemon) [23:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:16] night hitest [23:16] antler: But it runs! :) [23:16] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] if all of /etc/inetd.conf is commented out, and you don't intend to change it, you might as well "chmod -x /usr/sbin/inetd" to keep the daemon from even running in the first place [23:17] (just don't forget you did it, a year from now when you want to run an imap service...) [23:18] agentc0re: hahaha [23:18] im uncommenting pop and imap and ftp. thats all i think ill need for now [23:19] after editing /etc/inetd.conf, you can "killall -HUP inetd" to get it to re-read the config file [23:19] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:20] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:21] okay [23:21] ill do that in a sec, im working on ALSA right now [23:21] i found a good tutorial so far, though im going to have problems once i get to doing the WM [23:23] agentc0re: did you add svn the source for ffmpeg? seems as if it's doing that right now, but i don't see it in the script [23:23] Cotowar: heh i like configuring slack after a fresh install [23:24] im on a HUGE learning curve atm [23:24] im trying to figure shit out on my media PC, so i can eventually install to my laptop and drop Ubuntu [23:26] im on a really big learning curve right now too. there is so much about linux i DONT know, and i didnt realize it [23:26] Sit, Ubuntu, sit. Good boy. [23:26] hahaha [23:26] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:27] i can do some stuff from the command line, because ive used other distros that weren't AS menu driven, but like 75% of the shit im doing right now is completely new [23:28] Cotowar: what you're learning now is a lot closer to a real language than any gui/menu system is [23:29] Urchlay: oh i thought you meant "sit, ubu, sit. good dog" [23:29] yea. i need to learn bash and perl too, but i dont ahve a lot of time [23:29] antler: I think maybe I did mean that, can't figure out where it came from [23:29] Urchlay: at the end of some of those shows listed above [23:29] im filling my day in community college. we talked about 555 timers the other day [23:29] :) [23:30] nice [23:30] its so dumbed down, and its early in the morning [23:30] i have a hard time going [23:30] and im really afraid of my grades this semester [23:31] if i do poorly, i have a feeling im going to get kicked out... [23:31] seeing as i did poorly the first time around and racked up 35K in student loans in the process [23:31] and my part time job at dollar general just wont cut it [23:31] agentc0re: ok, nm it's grabbing stuff [23:32] gak [23:32] everything's a dollar, including your hourly rate? [23:32] pretty much yea [23:32] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [23:32] hello [23:32] i work like 17 hours a week, down from 30, and i get 7.25 an hour [23:32] is it me, or msn is down? [23:33] its barely enough to pay my monthly bill on my load [23:33] loan* [23:33] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [23:33] Hello [23:33] ouch [23:34] yea. and if i get kicked out, im 1100 miles from the nearest person who would let me move in... [23:34] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@dhcp13292.salley.fsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [23:34] yxz97, look, your joined right into Urchlay [23:34] so wee hoo for living in my car... [23:35] edman007, I appreciate you later.. [23:35] :P [23:35] whats everyones favorite media player? [23:35] mplayer [23:35] xmms [23:35] lol [23:35] and to some extent I like tvtime [23:35] edman007: what are you and yxz97 gonna do later? [23:35] (which only does TV) [23:36] i like eliza for a media PC. do you know off hand if it comes in a slackbuild? [23:36] though eliza is pretty heavy on the hardware [23:36] the only "eliza" I know is the ancient "artificial intelligence" chat-bot [23:36] and i like mplayer [23:37] Urchlay: eliza looks like this sort of [23:37] http://www.soft4help.ru/users/images/soft4help/audio/3551-elisa-0.3.2_1.png [23:37] It's elisa. http://elisa.fluendo.com/ It's not on SBo. [23:37] for some reason, mplayer takes *forever* to change channels on my TV card... like 10 seconds after I press the channel up/down key, it changes [23:38] lol [23:38] I'm looking if is this possible develop for Iphone in Linux [23:39] these Mac guys are lucky having such Machintosh very high prices for me :( [23:39] I'm poor [23:39] yxz97: you want to run linux on your iphone? [23:39] on the same hardware, tvtime switches channels almost instantly (like a regular TV), but it's too dumb to handle the audio from the card (I have to run a separate instance of sox or something to get sound, and it's not 100% in sync) [23:39] but happy [23:39] <[celia]> bye [23:39] "i'm poor, but happy" ??? wtf [23:39] antler, no want to develop for iphone in Linux [23:40] yxz97: so develop [23:40] you know coding objective-C files compile, build, link, etc. [23:40] yes [23:41] yxz97: im poor too. im running on a pentium 2, with 128 MB RAM. the trick is to save your money [23:41] Yeah you don't need money to be happy well at least, the society tries to make you think the counter part of it [23:41] Cotowar, you got the point [23:41] man, i need money to be happy [23:41] they only say that so that people dont bitch and beg for cash [23:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:42] personally though, if i had any less than i do now, id be damn unhappy... [23:42] you need *some* money to be happy (if you die of starvation, that's really sad) [23:42] Cotowar, how much you earn? [23:42] [celia] (n=slack@unaffiliated/celia/x-03827) left irc: Client Quit [23:42] i get about 100 a week after taxes [23:42] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:42] crap, how can you live on that? [23:42] Cotowar, doing what? [23:42] lol [23:43] stocking shelves at dollar general [23:43] man, thats bad.. [23:43] i know [23:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:43] I plan earn 2000 in next year ! [23:43] I mean the place I'm about to move in to, is one bedroom I'm renting in a house... for $400/mo [23:43] Cotowar: and you wanted a what? a handgun worth 800? what are you some sorta clown? [23:43] hello you slackers :P [23:43] hope that the world don't come down, [23:43] if I made what you make, I'd be able to pay my rent and nothing else [23:43] antler: its all in your priorities [23:44] Cotowar: yours should be food, right about now. [23:44] $2000 per month [23:44] Urchlay, now add 35K in student loans on that [23:44] bleah, student loans [23:44] i'm doing good on food, 12 packs of ramen are great [23:44] I read iphone developers are in demand for 50 buck for hour [23:44] buks which mean a lot money buddies ! [23:44] Cotowar, how much is that an hour? $100/week sounds below minimum wage [23:44] you're just getting started, and you're already up to your eyebrows in debt [23:44] priorities. guns...... kids. [23:44] that's no way to live [23:45] k_wolf (n=wolf@189.13.59.5) joined ##slackware. [23:45] hi guys :D [23:45] 7.25 an hour, 17 hours a week. i started there, at 30 a week, they cut me down and no one else will call me back for an interview [23:45] hey dtanner :) [23:46] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [23:46] Cotowar, hmm, 35k in student loans? get an internship or something? and what is your degree in (and did you graduate?) [23:46] here comes the funny part.... [23:46] because you don't sound like someone who should be doing that [23:46] Have any of you ever problems when loading fglrx kernel module using the new ATI driver? [23:47] k_wolf: i rarely had problems when i had my ati card [23:47] edman007: that was 1 year of out of state tuituon, i drank myself into oblivion because of personal issues at the time, failed out, and it was a degree in Aerospace Engineering at first, then Computer Engineering [23:47] k_wolf, i think a better question is have i ever had a system with an ATI card and no problems [23:47] Cotowar, failed out? go back [23:47] edman007, im not someone who should be doing what im doing. i have better managerial skills than the manager does. [23:47] all the eng stuff is good anyways [23:48] but a bit tough [23:48] i am going back, but im doing community college first to save myself some cash [23:48] antler: using driver version >= 8.37.6 runs. But xorg sometimes gets flickering [23:48] and honestly i can do whatever field i want. i did a kids homework last year for design school, and was one of like 3 to get an A overall, and one of 35 to get accepted to the design program [23:49] out of like 200+ [23:49] too bad i dont care about design, and would rather make shit in engineering [23:49] edman007: Yeah :D i know... [23:49] IDK, i made a lot of mistakes, and my life sucks now because of it [23:49] k_wolf, i can't make X run if fglrx is loaded [23:50] oh and Urchlay, yea, living on 100 a week isnt too bad... you just cant go anywhere, and you have to drive your car until the gas tank is literally empty [23:50] Cotowar, if you can do a few years on eng stuff then you won't have problems with much, eng is much harder than most majors [23:50] yea [23:51] im knocking out the gen eds like english and history at the community college [23:51] my plan is to transfer to NC State next year, and get a move on with this crap [23:51] edman007: well, fglrx doesnt load. The lady dmesg says me: Oh dear, fglrx: Unknown symbol pci_disable_msi [23:52] bono (i=bono@118.160.162.38) left irc: Client Quit [23:52] k_wolf, what kernel? [23:52] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:52] bono (i=bono@118-160-162-38.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] bono (i=bono@118-160-162-38.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:52] the thing im worried about is getting a "real" job after college [23:52] bono (i=bono@118-160-162-38.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] 2.6.27.7-smp, the crushing head [23:52] like, ive worked in the corporate world before. my first two jobs were in offices, but i didnt do anything hard. [23:53] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [23:54] edman007: the really interesting part is : FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/external/fglrx.ko.gz): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [23:54] im afraid of something like this happening: Coto gets an interview with some_company. they hire him as a sys admin. hes the only one they have. the first day, some shit happens and the whole server gets electronically ass raped. Coto gets fired. [23:54] story of my life right there ^ [23:55] k_wolf, did you compile the kernel yourself? or i is that the default slack kernel? [23:55] Cotowar, lol [23:56] Action: edman007 is trying to get a job in eeng [23:56] right now its all gov stuff for my major.. [23:56] edman007, i never used to have that problem either. it just magically happened one day and has never left [23:56] yea [23:56] I hope to be completely unemployable after I graduate. I'm a math/philosophy major! [23:56] Cotowar: it'll get much, much worse... [23:57] antler: thank you sir, for boosting my confidence [23:57] why cant you just fucking lie to me [23:57] and tell me it goes away and everyone gets it [23:57] lol [23:57] mogunus, you can be a professor [23:57] i think thats what everyone in those majors do [23:57] or just go for a MS in some Eng major [23:58] Cotowar: who are you blanche from 'a streetcar....' understand the facts of life. :P [23:58] i dont ahve to live in reality if i dont want to. thats the beauty of enablement in the US of A [23:58] you can be anything you want to be baby! you're special! [23:58] hence, your current position [23:59] lol [23:59] i wanted to be a professional drunk [23:59] mogunus: "Erm... well... I'm afraid we really don't have a place for someone of your... unique... 'qualifications.' Umm... here's $20, though." [23:59] position/predicament [00:00] --- Fri Apr 3 2009