[00:00] pthreat, awesome..good luck [00:00] MLanden: Thanks for the good support and concern [00:00] pthreat, np...always a learning experience..:D [00:01] :) [00:04] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:06] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-33.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [00:09] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [00:10] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [00:10] lesser (~lesser@117.136.12.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:11] anybody know of a skype equivalent on apple osx that is compatible with something that linux (preferrably slackware) has? [00:14] umm, skype ? [00:15] supported on OSX and linux [00:15] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[00:22] andarius, only 32-bit. skype 64-bit is actually a 32-bit binary that requires compatibility modules that I don't have available yet on slackware64-current [00:23] Well..it runs on OSX still :P [00:24] that is uhh, a good bit more data than was in the original question :) [00:24] straterra, unfortunately, it doesn't help me on my home desktop :) [00:25] andarius, that's why I'm looking for a skype equivalent [00:26] a 64bit skype equivelent that is ;) [00:26] just noting had I al lthe data I may not have suggested skype [00:26] something that works on slackware64-current :) [00:26] and apple osx :) [00:27] no ideas from me :) [00:32] alisonken1home: http://www.qutecom.org/ ? [00:34] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:36] hmm [00:36] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.119.199) joined ##slackware. [00:36] NaCl, may have to give it a try [00:36] \o [00:36] np [00:37] Only voip applications I knew of were skype, ekiga, and wengophone (that) [00:40] woot got it! because xdg-open looks to see if BROWSER variable is set and if not otherwise looks for common web browsers, setting export BROWSER=w3m works for changing the default web browser. [00:40] in .bashrc [00:41] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.34) joined ##slackware. [00:44] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: off to dreamland where I am not poor [00:44] lesser (~lesser@117.136.12.69) joined ##slackware. [00:51] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-141-149.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:52] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [00:54] blaines (~blaines@173-14-197-193-huntsville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-153-42.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:56] MLanden: http://190.2.40.57:1234/stream [00:56] http://www.kernel.org/ [00:56] what happened [00:56] april fools? [00:56] almost certainly [00:57] pthreat, workin' [00:57] workin' [00:57] ;) [00:57] thumbs up for you :) [00:58] pthreat, thanks...good luck [01:00] tsccof, good prank [01:02] yea [01:03] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:03] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-204-59.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] tsccof, used xrandr to see what it actually looked like rightside-up..comes out even weirder lookin'..:) [01:03] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. [01:04] I twisted my head [01:11] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-109.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:14] tsccof, see passin' -flip -flop to convert (ie convert -originialscreenshot.jpg -flip -flop newscreenshot.jpg) is able to do this http://omploader.org/vNDBybQ [01:15] s/-originialscreenshot.jpg/ originialscreenshot.jpg [01:15] Kaapa (~Something@bl11-116-46.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:16] MLanden: hmm, I did not know that, thanks for letting me know [01:16] tsccof, neither did I 'til now...loving RTFM..:P [01:20] blaines (~blaines@173-14-197-193-huntsville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:21] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-195-186.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:21] heya MLanden, how's it going? [01:22] heya,fire|bird...goin' good...yourself? [01:23] MLanden: going very well, thanks. [01:25] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:25] fire|bird, updated to the recent kde 4.4? [01:26] MLanden: indeed I have [01:26] using alienBOB's packages [01:26] fire|bird, workin' well? [01:27] MLanden: so far so good, yes. [01:27] fire|bird, awesome [01:27] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-204-59.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:28] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.160.71) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:34] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [01:35] waabimiigwan (~steven@106-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:40] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-137-74.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:44] pthreat, how's the latency from one computer to another...about 1min2secs from where your at in Argentina to here is Eastern US [01:45] well I guess it's not too bad since the quality of the internetz sucks in here [01:45] :) [01:45] Now I'm trying to stream tv [01:45] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [01:47] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:48] pthreat, y'all use ATSC like in North America to convert from PAL to HDTV or DVB like in Europe? [01:49] MLanden: I have no idea since I've never had digital television :) [01:50] ok [01:50] Justin22885 (~Justin228@cpe-69-207-52-108.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:50] funny I can't stream /dev/video0 however tv is working just fine [01:50] hey, does anyone know why knetworkconfig or whatever its called doesnt work? [01:51] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:51] pthreat, streaming /dev/video0 to /dev/video1? [01:51] nono [01:52] streaming /dev/video0 (tv) instead of /dev/video1 [01:52] (webcam) [01:52] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Changing host [01:52] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [01:53] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:53] pthreat, what's the make of the TV tuner? [01:54] hm ? [01:54] rand ? [01:54] brand* [01:54] MLanden: 01:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) [01:54] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [01:54] works awesome with bttv [01:55] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:55] MLanden: options bttv pll=1 card=120 radio=1 tuner=38 remote=1 bttv_verbose=1 [01:57] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:58] should be able to stream..unless it needs to be transcoded to 'nother format like mpeg4 or dv [01:58] perhaps [02:00] I got hooked up with a movie :O [02:00] MLanden: ttyl! [02:01] take care,pthreat [02:05] Justin22885 (~Justin228@cpe-69-207-52-108.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:05] Justin22885 (~Justin228@cpe-69-207-52-108.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:06] lesser (~lesser@117.136.12.69) left irc: Quit: Bye [02:10] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:11] slava_ (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:11] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Client Quit [02:11] slava_ (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Client Quit [02:11] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:12] rbellamy (~rbellamy@adsl-69-105-233-172.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:16] Mick_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:20] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [02:20] Hey folks. [02:23] Action: riza wishes to wake people up. [02:24] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [02:25] wazzup riza [02:25] Just thinking. :D [02:26] heya,riza..thinkin' 'bout what? [02:27] do any of you know how i can use iwconfig to connect to a wpa secured wifi network? [02:27] Justin22885, set parameters in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [02:28] but when i put a key it says its supposed to be hex [02:28] Justin22885, then edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and supply your passphrase [02:28] do not put a key in rc.inet1.conf. that one is for wep [02:28] wpa key goes to wpa_supplicant [02:28] oobe (~hell@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:28] but I would recommend using wicd, unless it's a server. [02:28] MLanden, well. [02:29] wicd is available in extra/ [02:29] I have a handful of old hard drives now.. [02:29] About 10 of them. [02:30] external case 'em....riza,what are the sizes? [02:30] All of them internal. [02:30] And I think they are all IDE, not SATA. [02:30] ok, made the changes in wpa_supplicant, now what? [02:30] And they al vary in size. [02:30] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 wlan0_restart [02:30] depends on what your wlan adapter is named [02:31] s/adapter/interface/ [02:31] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:33] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:36] riza, what did you want to do with them? [02:36] had to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf to give it my ESSID [02:36] MLanden, not sure. [02:36] Whoa. [02:36] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/development/cryptoki/ [02:36] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:37] Do I download all that? [02:37] oobe (~hell@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [02:37] ESSID's can also be specified in wpa_supplicant.conf [02:37] riza, you download sbopkg instead :) [02:38] That is the sbopkg. [02:38] No? D: [02:38] I must be missing something. [02:38] ah, ok :) [02:38] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:39] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [02:42] hmm.. got "eth1 timed out" when trying to set that up with dhcp [02:42] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:43] you don't want to use wicd, i figure? [02:43] tried it, wicd fails and says its unable to get an IP address [02:44] slackpkg update wicd? there has been an update after 13.0 [02:44] otherjoe (~otherjoe@pdpc/supporter/active/otherjoe) joined ##slackware. [02:45] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [02:45] Azeotrope (~JBauer@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [02:45] Azeotrope (~JBauer@193.239.140.184) left irc: Changing host [02:45] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [02:45] and try switching dhcp clients too... there is dhcpcd and dhclient [02:48] i installed wicd yesterday, so its the latest [02:48] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:48] dhclient eth1 then? [02:49] dhclient is uding the wrong netmask [02:53] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:54] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:57] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-109.gwi.net) left irc: Quit: = [02:58] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:59] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-145-224.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:59] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [03:00] Justin22885 (~Justin228@cpe-69-207-52-108.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:01] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:01] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:01] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4219, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-03-26 04:04:08 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:03] Is there any way to remotely select a kernel for a server? [03:03] admboom (~mf@fw1-aus1.rackspace.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:04] what does that mean [03:05] i mean i have a server and i want to be able to change kernels like i do it when I am in front of it... [03:05] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:05] there must be a remote way.. [03:05] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:05] also for disk encryption [03:06] /etc/lilo.conf ? [03:06] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:07] yea, that works for selecting kernels. but what about disk encryption? i need to encrypt as much as i can on / [03:07] Action: slava_dp invents a bootloader with a tcp/ip stack [03:08] but if there's a powerdown, the server restarts and waits for a password i cannot input [03:08] Azeotrope, gonna have to use usb keys. you won't be able to input a passphrase remotely. [03:08] and usb keys are only supported on -current for now.... [03:08] afaik [03:09] frimer (~frimer@szluug.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:09] usb keys? what's that? [03:09] a decryption key on a usb flash drive. [03:09] then i must find a way to have no logs on that server [03:09] which is plugged into the server and the initrd uses it [03:10] no logs? you can set up a remote syslog server [03:10] or mount /var/log to tmpfs :) [03:11] or disable syslog (which is a bad idea imo) [03:11] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:12] what does your server do, out of curiosity? [03:12] admboom (~mf@fw1-aus1.rackspace.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] when I do "ln -s ~/foo/ ~/bar/" and then do a "ls ~/bar/" why doesnt it show me the contents inside bar? [03:14] well, nothing yet. I want a minipc / small laptop that I can access with ssh in order to have some things like: tor server, bnc, and backtrack's apps [03:14] hide it someplace like a big lan or near a wireless network and voila [03:15] and voila you are in jail, yeah [03:15] why? [03:16] for illegal actions of course [03:16] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-218.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:16] it's illegal if you use it in illegal means. [03:18] one has to develop methods of protecting himself. in a few years we will be in like in a jail, under surveillance [03:18] 24/7 [03:19] slava_dp: and voila you are in jail, yeah < that was so funny [03:19] but Azeotrope is right [03:21] such a loser [03:21] "help me to set up a clandestine wireless sniffer, kthx" [03:22] did I said that? [03:24] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:26] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:26] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:27] phreak (~phreak@pool-71-247-107-170.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:29] iAVOR (~iAVOR@unaffiliated/iavor) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:29] frimer (~frimer@szluug.org) joined ##slackware. [03:29] iAVOR (~ppcanfly@unaffiliated/iavor) joined ##slackware. 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[04:12] i am using stock 64-current, compiling mozilla nss with no luck [04:13] Action: flity got /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or directory [04:15] hmm, stubs-32.h should not be included in glibc on 64bit system, right? [04:15] any suggestions? [04:17] phreak (~phreak@pool-71-247-107-170.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:17] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Can anyone suggest a good method to access my webcam? [04:18] Mel-nix, what make is it? [04:20] Mel-nix, tvtime [04:20] has no deps , a single slackbuild [04:20] MLanden: Logitech. [04:20] wxcam is good too [04:21] slava_dp: I am looking for a light-weight and command-line utility. [04:22] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:22] flity: how do you compile? and why do you compile it? [04:23] Mel-nix, a command-line tool to view video? [04:23] Mel-nix, are you talking about a streaming solution perhaps? [04:23] mplayer? :P [04:23] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-240-213.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:23] well yeah, mplayer can do that [04:24] Camarade_Tux: i'm writing a slackbuild, and seem to find the solution [04:24] slava_dp: Yes, but in X. CLI. [04:24] Action: flity is on the go [04:24] flity: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/mozilla-nss/ ;-) [04:24] Camarade_Tux: thanks, will have a look :-) [04:25] :-) [04:26] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [04:26] Camarade_Tux: How? [04:27] theres hasciicam that might interest you [04:27] but its ascii, no real video [04:27] mplayer -tv tv:// /dev/video [04:27] or something like that [04:27] /dev/video0 [04:28] sahk0: So won't do. [04:29] Mel-nix, check out #6 http://groups.google.com/group/microdia/web/testing-microdia-driver-draft [04:29] mplayer tv:// -tv /dev/video0 [04:29] I'm trying to make a script to find all of the directories that contain an mp3 and symlink them to another directory, but on some of the directories, the mp3 is in foo/bar, and when the symlink happens, it only links bar my loop is: "while read file; do ln -s ~/blah/$file/ ~/test/; done" [04:30] what am I doing wrong? [04:30] Reticenti, #bash will help you :) [04:31] ok :) [04:32] and what you pasted is incomplete [04:32] Mel-nix, what's the usb-id of the webcam? [04:32] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:32] I mean, lacks at least something before the while loop [04:33] Camarade_Tux: This works not: mplayer tv:// -tv device=/dev/video0 [04:33] mplayer -tv tv:// /dev/video [04:33] MLanden: 046d:0928 [04:34] err, no [04:34] Mel-nix: mplayer tv:// -tv /dev/video0 [04:34] Mel-nix, using the uvc driver? [04:35] Camarade_Tux: I tried that and got: Option tv: Unknown suboption tv \n Error parsing option on the command line: -tv [04:36] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [04:36] MLanden: I don't know. How do I find out? [04:37] Mel-nix, can you modprobe uvcvideo? [04:38] cat /proc/bus/input/{devices,handlers} [04:38] Mel-nix: ok, try: mplayer tv:// /dev/video0 [04:39] MLanden: Done. [04:39] Mel-nix, any errors is dmesg? [04:40] phreak (phreak@pool-71-247-107-170.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:42] MLanden: Around `video'? [04:43] Mel-nix, yeah..and check /dev..is there a video0,video1 etc? [04:43] MLanden: crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2010-04-02 15:36 /dev/video0 [04:44] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:45] Camarade_Tux: Your command ran, but no succesful video output. [04:45] frimer (~frimer@szluug.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:45] Mel-nix, from that other link I gave you at #6 ... can you mplayer tv:// \ [04:45] -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:fps=25:device=/dev/video0 -vo x11 ? [04:46] ouch..almost got kicked on flood [04:46] in case some one wonders, my previous problem solved by passing `USE_64=1' to make [04:47] Mel-nix, should've came out ... mplayer tv:// \ -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:fps=25:device=/dev/video0 -vo x11 [04:48] Mel-nix: but what did it say? [04:49] |Emeau| (~kvirc@AMontsouris-552-1-108-152.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:50] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-552-1-118-80.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:50] MLanden: Did not work. v4l2: your device driver does not support VIDIOC_G_STD ioctl, VIDIOC_G_PARM was used instead. ... and a series of other errors/messages. [04:52] Mel-nix, ok...wrong driver for the logitech...must be using one of the spca5xx drivers [04:52] remove '-vo x11', and remove all the other options except device and driver: keep 'mplayer tv :// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0' [04:52] ok [04:53] Mel-nix, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html which spca5xx is the closest to that usb-id to gave? [04:54] Camarade_Tux: Still, did not successfully work. [04:56] same error? [04:56] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-240-213.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:57] Camarade_Tux: Yes. [04:58] eclectist (~weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [05:01] Mel-nix, which kernel are you using? [05:02] does anyone know why osuosl is lagging so much? looks like april 1st updates aren't online yet [05:03] MLanden: 2.6.33.1-smp [05:04] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [05:05] Mel-nix, alright....can you modprobe -r uvcmode and modprobe gspca_spca561 ? [05:06] whoops uvcvideo* [05:06] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [05:07] BPk, ping :) [05:08] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-157-109.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:09] MLanden: lsmod(8) reveals that those modules are already loaded. [05:11] Mel-nix, ok [05:18] Mel-nix, can you place LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so mplayer tv:// \ -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:fps=25:device=/dev/video0 -vo x11 or does it still come up with the same errors? [05:18] strike place* [05:24] alienBOB: l/glibc/glibc.SlackBuild in slackware64-current (at least) has a pretty ugly error on line 61: it reads '$VERSION}', it's missing a '{', afaict bash in -current accepts it and interprets it as '$VERSION' but zsh definitely doesn't (credits don't go to me) [05:27] alienBOB: credits to 'Thomas' (not on this channel) [05:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [05:28] MLanden: Yippee! It worked, but with a couple of errors. Thanks. :) [05:29] Mel-nix, awesome...so it needs that v4l1compat.so preloaded before any command [05:30] Mel-nix, what are the errors? [05:30] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:32] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [05:34] MLanden: http://pastebin.ca/1854738 [05:34] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-157-109.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:34] goarilla (~goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:35] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [05:37] Mel-nix, might just have to salt and pepper mplayer to get it working right [05:38] Mel-nix, check this site out for little more specific info on the drivers http://mxhaard.free.fr/sview.html [05:40] goarilla (~goarilla@87.94-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [05:45] Camarade_Tux: building packages in Slackware is done by root, and root's shell is expected to be bash. If not, things will likely break. Apart from that, yes that is a typo which has to be fixed [05:46] MLanden: Thanks for the link. I will read it sometime. [05:46] Mel-nix, np...good luck...a good learning experience..:D [05:47] alienBOB: yeah, I know sh is expected to be bash in slackware (and that's why I checked bash actually made with [ I never use it ]), was pretty ugly however ;-) [05:47] thanks [05:47] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-131-253.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:50] yarvin (~yarvinmor@155-197-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [05:50] merciful_mobi (~Eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:50] Camarade_Tux: I have fixed that typo in the glibc-multilib.SlackBuild now... it had that too [05:52] ok, good :-) [05:54] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.175.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:55] merciful_mobi (~Eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: [05:56] oh alienBOB the one that is sharing the multilib packages? 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[07:02] interesting read -> http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Catalyst-OpenGL-preview-driver.aspx [07:03] also a preview of the new opengl 4.0 driver [07:03] :) [07:08] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:12] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-184-203.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:12] brainvision (~brainvisi@host37-84-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:17] hello [07:17] :) [07:21] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-227-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:22] hello brainvision [07:22] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[10:43] lw0x15: wotcha :) [10:44] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-180.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:45] Evilazz (~user@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:48] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:50] jim_james (~swwww@212.183.140.21) joined ##slackware. [10:52] ive made a shutdown.allow file in /etc/ with my user in it [10:52] the shutdown and restart options appeared in LEAVE [10:52] ivandi (~ivandi@bas2-quebec03-1176410853.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:52] but then after i restarted they were no longer there any ideas why ? [10:53] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:53] why is it when i upgrade pidgin with slackpkg botsentry wont complile with error ....configure: error: cannot link to glib-2.0 but when i remove it and use alienbobs pidgin.Slackbuild bot sentry compile fine ? [10:54] why not just use on of slackware's mirrors to update pidgin to 2.6.6 [10:54] ? [10:54] Evilazz (~user@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] its in .txz file just installpkg pidgin... and ure done [10:54] ? [10:55] ivandi (~ivandi@bas2-quebec03-1176410853.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [10:56] yeah iAVOR i did slackpkg upgrade pidgin ....then tried to compile pidgin from source and it gave me that error ....but when i took it off with pkgtool and built a package with alienbobs slackbuild script botsentry comiled fien [10:56] brainvision (~brainvisi@host202-76-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:56] compile bonsentry* [10:57] fine* [10:57] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [10:57] bad spelling :( [10:57] Does anyone know why osuosl hasn't updated their current mirroring yet? http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [10:58] bigpaws (~bigpaws@plns-199-224-122-141-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:58] did that make sense iAVOR ? [10:59] no quite :D but then im new to slackware :) [10:59] so im not sure i can help you much [10:59] :) [10:59] did u do full install of slackware [10:59] it's ok now it's working just wondered why [11:00] Acidcore (~IFo@89.203.192.156) left irc: [11:01] no idea :) [11:01] XinuL (~ngik@202.70.59.21) joined ##slackware. [11:02] the difference is probably in the ./configure options: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/pidgin/build/pidgin.SlackBuild [11:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:03] yeah trhodes ...i got 2.6.6 same as --current [11:03] Nick change: XinuL -> NxTH [11:05] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B52A0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:07] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [11:08] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] how can I identify which graphics driver would be best to use for my card? it's an ASPEED ast 2050.. googling but not really finding anything useful [11:09] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:09] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [11:10] raendeer: What is the output of 'lspci | grep -i vga'? [11:12] 01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family (rev 10 [11:12] xf86-video-ast was mentioned at lwn as working, fwiw [11:12] Huh... I've never even heard of that before. [11:12] it's some onboard thing [11:12] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:12] wazy (~wazy@2001:8c0:9840:63b:211:43ff:fe7b:5699) joined ##slackware. [11:13] raendeer, look at the information on this site (and yeah, it's an onboard thingy): http://developer.novell.com/yes/130939.htm [11:13] hi everybody [11:13] new to slackware [11:13] and having problems installing a package [11:13] wazy: welcome [11:13] Yean, Xorg in Slackware 13.0 seems to include the ast driver. [11:13] and having problems installing a package+ [11:13] wazy: what package? and define the problem(s) [11:13] is this the right place to ask for help? [11:13] monit [11:13] tried both compiling it myself [11:13] shonudo: yeah, just ran across that. so would I put ast in xorg.conf? [11:14] and through slackbuild [11:14] right now the screen isn't centered correctly and xrandr won't work.. want to see if changing the driver fixes it [11:14] raendeer, you'll need to edit xorg.conf, yes [11:14] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.29.39) joined ##slackware. [11:14] wazy: you tried the monit 5.0 slackbuild? [11:14] although the centering problem may be due to the need to config xorg.conf [11:15] all I get is this [11:15] bison -y -dvt -o y.tab.c p.y [11:15] make: ''' [y.tab.c] Broen pipe [11:15] replace the ' with * [11:16] wazy: and you are using the 5.0 source tarball and not the newere 5.1.1? [11:16] and yes tried the monit 5.0 slackbuild [11:16] wazy: usually pastebin it ;) [11:16] shonudo: but is 'ast' the correct driver to use? [11:16] ah sorry [11:16] not used to ask for help :p [11:16] raendeer, i'm not sure, and i'm not sure you would ID it as "ast" either [11:16] Slackware package /tmp/sbopkg/sbopkg-sbooutputdir/monit-5.0-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz created. <-- compiles fine ;) [11:16] Yes, in xorg.conf it would be 'ast'. [11:16] Whether or not it works, however, is another matter. [11:16] thanks adamk [11:17] raendeer, you'll just have to try it [11:17] yeah.. thanks :) [11:17] really? [11:18] wazy: RLY. [11:18] could it be because it is the 64 bit version? [11:18] wazy: doubtful. [11:18] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:19] would that package work on a 486 system without 64-bit? [11:19] no. [11:19] Slackware package /tmp/sbopkg/sbopkg-sbooutputdir/monit-5.0-i486-1_SBo.tgz created. [11:19] i've been having an issue with Slackware not being able to play any of my mp3's that have utf-8 characters in the metadata, how can I grant access? [11:19] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [11:21] and i also get some wierd feedback when I move the mouse and open programs and stuff, how do I close off chanels? i cant figure that out [11:21] where might I find that package? [11:21] wazy: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/monit/ [11:21] well .. you find the build script there. [11:22] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:22] yeah thats exactly the one I tried [11:22] that gives me the weird error I don't understand [11:22] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:24] wazy: you have a complete and full install? [11:24] what pastebin to use? [11:25] wazy: pastebin.slackadelic.com [11:26] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/w7g9KQ10.html [11:27] that is exactly what I get [11:27] regarding a complete and full install [11:27] to be honest I do not know [11:27] I believe yes [11:27] but what exactly would I need to make sure I have a complete and full install? [11:28] wazy, use slackpkg [11:28] slackpkg -install:new [11:28] fail [11:28] that will do a full install [11:29] ok seems I do not have the slackpkg installed either [11:29] wazy, monit has VERY few dependencies, so I don't think it's that [11:29] you can get that from www.slackware.com [11:29] under one of the mirrors [11:29] its an official set, look under patches [11:29] well, x started with ast, but the screen is still not aligned and xrandr --output auto --pos 10x10 doesn't change it [11:29] alienBOB: ping [11:29] KaMii, first, -install:new is not even close to accurate. second, slackpkg is not listed under "patches" [11:30] now I am confused [11:30] wazy, which version of slackware are you on? [11:30] 13 I think [11:30] but how to check? [11:30] cat /etc/slackware-version [11:30] cat /etc/slackware-version [11:30] wazy: ^^ "cat /etc/*rsio*" [11:30] AbsTradELic: you can leave your question here... I am about to join the traffic jams [11:31] Action: Necos beat thrice` to the punch [11:31] grep rdi /etc/inittab [11:31] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:31] :D [11:31] ok i was a little wrong its slackpkg install-new [11:31] :) [11:31] antiwire: :D [11:31] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [11:31] and im not sure where its located for slack 13.0 [11:31] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:31] im running slack 11.0 [11:31] and its in the patches for that version [11:31] ... [11:31] then surely it is for all versions, you're riht [11:31] just search the filelist [11:32] wazy: ls -l /var/log/packages/slackpkg* [11:32] slackpkg is in the AP set for slack 13 [11:33] you have to be root to run it [11:33] hm... [11:33] I currently do not have any users [11:33] only a root user [11:33] if you are loged in as user it will say command not found [11:33] could that be the problem? [11:33] BP{k} at the risk of getting made fun of by you, can you repaste those 4-5 1-liners for the packages again? [11:33] no, if your root and you did slackpkg and it said command not found, its not installed [11:34] haha i'm making fun of mancha! [11:34] oh that mancha [11:34] *making*fun*making*fun* [11:34] he's so.. something [11:34] well I installed slackpkg now [11:34] lol [11:34] do you want me to remove it? [11:34] mancha: heh, you don't have logfiles? ;-) [11:34] lol [11:34] or just check public logs? [11:34] mancha: let me have a look :) [11:35] ok now just type slakpkg update [11:35] BP{k} heh no i don't log and apparently slackboy doesn't either since february of this year [11:35] that will update Slackpkg for the mirrors [11:35] haha, whoops [11:35] hehe seems I do not have any mirrors :p [11:35] lol, slackboy ran outta space [11:35] then you need to edit /etc/slackpkg/mirriors [11:35] *mirrors [11:35] KaMii: you know .. you can make this a lot easier... [11:35] Necos oh is that it? heh. drive space h0h0 [11:36] wazy: read "man slackpkg" and "man slackpkg.conf" [11:36] slackpkg is the easist to get a full install [11:36] alienBOB: can installpkg/upgradepkg verify packages integrity/corruption without install them ? [11:36] KaMii: "giving a fish" versus "teaching how to fish". [11:37] is everyone in here having a large ego or something? [11:37] yes. [11:37] of course.. we use slackware [11:37] KaMii: not only that, my superiority complex is bigger and better than everyone elses. [11:37] i like that i know how to fish but then i prefer getting a nice salmon with capers and mustard sauce served to me at a restaurant! [11:37] No 'which' command found, please install it if you want to [11:37] use slackpkg. [11:37] sorry, but unless patrick is here, you all including me are just users [11:37] AbsTradELic, i think alienBOB left already, but if you're wondering about integrity, you can use things like --md5sum in installpkg [11:37] hrrm. why doesn't the OSUOSL mirror include the latest -current updates :S [11:37] but what if we are allergic to fish? [11:38] then you use ubuntu [11:38] StevenR: Oh good, it's not just me [11:38] StevenR: I'm wondering that myself too. [11:38] mancha: sure... In that same line of thoguht, I am much more accomandating if people pay me to answer stupid question. [11:38] raendeer: then you learn how to fish but don't [11:38] wazy: that does not seem to be a full install [11:38] s/question/questions/ [11:38] BPk, yes, $$ changes everying [11:38] wazy, how did you install slackware? [11:38] what did you do? [11:38] for a "consulting fee" i'll becoe a lot less RTFM, knowdamean? [11:38] become* [11:39] mancha: indeed :) [11:39] BP{k}: you mean you don't get gratitification from how grateful people -surely- are? :P [11:39] lol mancha... good point... [11:39] well this is an embedded device so I got a pre-made tar.gz file I extracted to a disk dirve [11:39] *drive [11:39] raendeer: well... uhm ... let's seeee... [11:39] raendeer: *no* [11:40] lol [11:40] http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/04/02/1236232/Stalker-Jailed-For-Planting-Child-Porn-On-a-PC [11:40] BPk, but i am worries, i see you being very chatty on ##slackware now, which means no grepping private logfiles action... [11:40] mancha: HAHAHA arse :) [11:40] BP{k}: you might get an e-hug if lucky? damn, that was how I planned on paying for help :( [11:40] :> [11:41] mancha: damnit busted :) [11:41] done which is installed now [11:41] rbellamy (~rbellamy@adsl-69-105-233-172.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] running slackpkg update [11:41] wazy, how do you have such a messed up install of slackware? :P [11:41] so, how can I get mp3's to work that have utf-8 characters in the metadata? [11:42] thats what I asked Necos [11:42] work in what sense? are players boking? [11:42] borkin? [11:42] eh? use an mp3 player that supports utf-8? like audacious [11:42] sorry, it is my first encounter with slackware Necos [11:42] none of them workied Necos [11:42] define "work" [11:42] audacios, songbird... [11:42] the just dont play [11:43] it skipps to the next song in the list [11:43] AbsTradELic: you can use gpg to verify that the package was signed by the Slackware key. It's not an option for installpkg though [11:43] is the filename unicode? [11:43] are they named with utf8? [11:43] the files [11:43] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:43] all that are named with utf8 fail [11:44] do you have the utf8 codepage enabled? [11:44] im from sweden and my swedish songs that have umlauts wont play [11:44] i probably dont Necos how do I check? [11:44] it's a kernel config option [11:44] afu (~afu@beavis.cba.ua.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:44] MoZes: installpkg do verifying... patrick can explorer a new command parameter about that !! X:P [11:45] i've never heard a song with an umlaut that i liked [11:45] hahaha [11:45] well that doesnt really help me mancha [11:45] would it be ok if I go take a snack to eat while slackpkg works? [11:45] file systems -> native language support [11:46] yes wazy [11:46] whats this file systems -> [11:46] ? [11:46] mancha must not like swedish death metal [11:46] or something [11:46] he must not [11:46] so sad [11:46] make menuconfig in the kernel directory [11:48] blaines (~blaines@173-14-197-193-huntsville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:49] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:49] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:51] mancha: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/hrUTJw72.html [11:51] AbsTradELic: it verifies iif the tgz is corrupt (due to a bad download) but it doesn't verify that it has not been tampered with. [11:52] KaMii: you shouldn't have to make any changes to the kernel to get scandinavian letters working [11:53] anavel (~Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: Real_Life(); [11:53] hey cool, i pastebinned that elsewhere, too [11:53] MoZes: yes... exacly.... verifies if tgz is corrupt is the idea for a suppose new --verify-without-install parameter !! xD [11:54] BPk, you da man. thanks. [11:54] just change $LANG to en_US-UTF-8 (can be done globally in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh), and then add unicode_start to /etc/rc.d/rc.local [11:55] AbsTradELic: oh ok [11:55] i gotta go catch a bus, but ask back if you have any trouble [11:55] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:55] later v3gard [11:56] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.230) joined ##slackware. [11:57] dod you all hear about that liberian/greek scam? they would copy all the ips off a known backlister, pose as a blacklister and charge $$ to delist :) [11:57] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] that's awful [11:58] funny though [11:59] unicode_start freaked out something [11:59] when I entered that it was like someone died on the enter key [12:05] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) joined ##slackware. [12:08] blaines (~blaines@12.175.45.195) joined ##slackware. [12:12] alphad_ (~quassel@41.207.31.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:12] alphad (~alphad@41.207.31.139) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:13] i'm russian boys [12:13] jamicon: did you just had a revelation or something ? [12:14] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:15] afu (~afu@beavis.cba.ua.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:20] I'm downloading Slackware 13.0 - please help Russify [12:21] wasn't someone talking about a russian distro (maybe slack based) on here yesterday ? [12:22] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it. [12:22] I'm just very bad...... [12:22] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:22] i'm looking in my logs for it... nothing :/ [12:23] so how can I get unicode_start to work? [12:24] otherjoe (~otherjoe@pdpc/supporter/active/otherjoe) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:25] jamicon: Are you in the process of downloading now? How? [12:25] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] !help [12:27] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-36-84.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [12:27] jamicon (~jamicon@188.18.117.54) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:27] my keyboard on that system does not work now because of that command [12:27] how can I get it working? [12:28] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.19.81) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:28] i can at least ssh into it from this computer and issue commands [12:29] so what do I need to type? [12:32] has anybody been able to build the nvidia kernel module on today's -current? [12:32] Action: KaMii thinks everyone died after they killed my keyboard [12:32] lol [12:33] wazy (~wazy@2001:8c0:9840:63b:211:43ff:fe7b:5699) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:33] oh good Necos is back [12:33] i need my keyboard back [12:33] its sorta important in Slackware [12:33] sorry about taking so long to get back... walking around the campus looking for school administrators... damn teachers cancelled the event i was supposed to set up, but didn't bother to tell my dept. [12:34] its a holiday here [12:34] wi KaMii [12:34] the school i work for is year-round [12:34] friday is a holiday :P [12:34] good friday? [12:34] mhm [12:34] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:34] so how can I get the keyboard back? [12:34] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: You make your own luck in life. [12:36] unicode_stop? [12:36] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:36] wazy (~wazy@2001:8c0:9840:63b:211:43ff:fe7b:5699) joined ##slackware. [12:37] nope [12:37] still doesnt work .... [12:37] reboot the computer? [12:37] bad news [12:37] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:37] slackpkg update did not help [12:37] blahhh [12:37] why not wazy [12:37] still failing with the same error compiling [12:38] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] wazy, ummm, slackpkg update just gets the new filelist [12:38] did you say update or install new? [12:38] KaMii: If you want to use unicode, you have to go and edit /etc/profile.d/lang.{csh,sh} [12:38] update [12:38] kamii, can you do a ps ax | grep unicode_start? [12:39] wazy: update, as Necos pointed out .. really only gets the filelist and checks if there are any changes. [12:39] 23699 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep unicode_start [12:39] wazy: read slackpkg(8) [12:39] wazy you need to run the install new option not update [12:40] ps ax | grep kbd_mode ? [12:41] same output [12:41] what are we looking for? [12:41] what about dumpkeys? [12:41] oh but how can i reboot that coputer without a keyboard working? [12:42] we're looking for a program being launched by unicode_start :) [12:42] shutdown -r now as root, since you're ssh'd in :) [12:42] +S on that one [12:42] ok, ya i didnt think of that, lolz [12:42] so you get a dumpkeys? [12:43] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [12:43] that's probably what's being the spoiled little monkey [12:43] 23831 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep dumkeys [12:43] oh hrmmm... [12:43] dump [12:43] not dum [12:43] lol [12:43] hai [12:43] nothing on dump, lol [12:43] ya that was a typeo [12:43] i dont have cp pastw working on this system [12:43] paste [12:46] gpm is your friend [12:46] mkay...... [12:46] sorry, was helping a student convert an office document on a virtual machine >.<; [12:47] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Client Quit [12:48] what about loadkeys? [12:48] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [12:48] nothing [12:49] hmmm, try ps ax | grep iutf8 [12:49] pthreat (~pthreat@201-213-122-80.net.prima.net.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:50] nothing [12:50] it looks like the unicode_start lauches another stty with the option iutf8 [12:50] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:51] argh, i guess you have to reboot the box :( [12:51] mkay [12:51] well i gotta go [12:51] k [12:51] i will mess with it later [12:51] Nick change: [stat1c] -> stat1c [12:51] thankx, we will probably talk later [12:51] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.29.39) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:56] Mick_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:57] martin_hex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:57] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Disconnected by services [12:57] Nick change: martin_hex -> martinhex [12:57] any us army folk in here? looking for an mos where i'd be working alot with linux :D [12:57] just to mention, I do not mind reading slackpkg manual or any other manual, but I still need guidance on what exactly I am trying ti accomplish with slackpkg [12:58] so it seems that my slackwaare build is really messed up [12:58] I can not even run slackpkg install-new [12:58] righteous: MOS = Metal Oxide Semiconductor? [12:59] Mel-nix:: military occupational specialty? :P [12:59] "job" [12:59] wazy: did it ever work/ [12:59] well I did manage to get java going [12:59] something I expected to be more difficult [13:00] wazy: What are you trying to do? [13:01] compile monit [13:01] missing tput now [13:01] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:01] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:01] I really hope this is not standard errors experienced with slackware [13:01] wazy: I did not understand what you meant by your build being messed up. [13:01] but something completely wrong with my installation [13:02] I was missing slackpkg, which and now tput [13:02] and I understood it by others here that my installation was messed up [13:02] regarding monit [13:02] when I try to compile this happens [13:02] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/w7g9KQ10.html [13:04] where the heck is the source for ff 3.6.3? not on http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6.3/ [13:04] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.40.183) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:06] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [13:08] ok slackpkg install-new started working after installaing missing packages [13:08] now I need to do some shaderprogramming [13:08] see you all later [13:08] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0B9CE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0B9CE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:12] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:14] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] blaines (~blaines@12.175.45.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:20] Mick_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [13:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.40.183) joined ##slackware. [13:23] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] Is there an easy way to disable driver loading from the install boot? [13:24] I'm running into an issue with mptbase. It can't be loaded after aic7xxxx, so I want to disable aic7xx on boot so I can install. [13:26] NxTH (~ngik@202.70.59.21) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:26] Motoko-chan, maybe /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [13:27] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.239) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:27] I need this from the install disc. [13:29] could try append="no-aic7xxx" or something similar [13:29] Reaver1 (Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left ##slackware. [13:29] Acidcore (~IFo@89.203.192.156) joined ##slackware. [13:30] Nick change: Acidcore -> Guest69779 [13:30] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [13:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.40.183) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:31] it looks like you can append="noapic" and the problem should go away Motoko-chan [13:32] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) joined ##slackware. [13:32] To stop aic7xxx from loading? [13:32] no, to keep it from halting the other drivers [13:33] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slack-12-2-installation-problems-lsi-scsi-mptbase-error-messages-690176/ [13:33] My exact problem [13:34] Guest69779 (~IFo@89.203.192.156) left irc: Client Quit [13:34] duckegg (~IFo@89.203.192.156) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Yeah... Did nothing. [13:35] sluttyduck (~slut@66.42.244.31) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.255) joined ##slackware. [13:37] i was reading a post about aic7xxx not loading properly... figured it was worth a shot [13:38] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:40] gtg, bbl [13:40] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:42] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:42] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:43] NxTH (~ngik@202.70.59.12) joined ##slackware. [13:44] hmmmm, lookibng at the lilo boot options, you might want to try huge.smp scsi="" [13:44] or scsi="mptbase" [13:44] and that should only enable mptbase [13:49] blaines (~blaines@12.175.45.195) joined ##slackware. [13:49] is anyone using amarok? [13:49] blaines (~blaines@12.175.45.195) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [13:49] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:49] I am [13:50] how fast is it on your machine [13:50] cuz its kind of slow on mine during startup [13:51] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Quit: Fui embora [13:51] im waiting for it to start for like 1 minute .. each time [13:51] its really annoying [13:51] Less than 20 seconds here. [13:52] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] blaines (~blaines@12.175.45.195) joined ##slackware. [13:54] that is fast compared to mine :) [13:55] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:55] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-36-84.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.40.183) joined ##slackware. [13:58] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:58] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:59] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [14:00] x-day (x-day@j.r.bobdobbs.info) left ##slackware ("bye"). [14:04] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:09] sweet! blackberry os version 5 official relase :) [14:11] Necos: for what models? the 8xxx series? [14:11] perlsyntax (~perlsynta@adsl-68-248-237-150.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] 9630 specifically [14:12] If i install slackware 13.0 and i pick newbie install would that be the easy way to do it? [14:12] yeah perlsyntax [14:12] cool [14:12] Necos: i don't see that when i select device software on blackberry's website [14:12] what come with the newbies ? [14:13] 9630 is the Tour [14:13] i hope slackware is good linux. [14:13] Necos: i know that. [14:13] Necos,Does come with perl 5.10.1? [14:14] think so :) [14:14] cool [14:14] zaltekk, i'm on verizon [14:14] -current has it [14:14] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:14] (perl 5.10.1 that is) [14:15] Necos: i know that too. i'm wondering where you see that os5 was released for the older phones. i know there are betas and leaks, but i can't find any official information. [14:15] oh, well, i just saw the upate for my tour via wireless update wednesday night [14:16] and went to the verizon website to download the update so i can do it via desktop manager [14:16] ah. i have a curve 8330 with verizon. i tried the unofficial releases of 5.0, which worked okay...but they were a bit sluggish and GPS no longer functioned, so i downgraded back to 4.5 [14:17] there's supposed to be an 8xxx update to 5.0 already... you checked crackberry already? [14:17] blaines (~blaines@12.175.45.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:18] crap, there isn't :( [14:18] Necos: i don't see anything official [14:18] it's been a _very_ long time since there was any news about it [14:18] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B52A0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] good [14:19] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-211-139.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:20] brb [14:20] How long does the newbie package thing go for? [14:20] it said 1 year. [14:21] what? [14:21] never mind [14:22] did you see where it said "full install" was recommended? :) [14:22] I think newbie prompts you package by package, which is over a 1,000 iirc [14:23] yeah, that option isn't very friendly.. [14:24] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-167-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [14:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:28] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:29] blaines (~blaines@28.sub-75-235-240.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:31] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:34] the full install is better? [14:34] maybe i go with that. [14:35] well, you can omit a couple package sets if you want, like kde/ if you don't use KDE, k/ if you don't want kernel source, e/ if you don't want emacs , but generally - yes [14:35] be careful, a/, ap/, d/, l/ are pretty critical, x if you want x.org [14:36] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:36] i never install slackware before. [14:36] i got a 500mb hard drive. [14:36] mb or gb? [14:36] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp78-119.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:36] gb [14:37] a full install is around 5gb :> you should be OK [14:37] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4219, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-03-26 04:04:08 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [14:37] blaines (~blaines@28.sub-75-235-240.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:37] if you mick and chose you can use a 500 MB HDD :) [14:37] i see [14:37] one prob i was try to find out what linux has perl 5.10.1 [14:38] it does [14:38] er pick [14:38] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] perlsyntax, sorry, 13.0 has 5.10.0 [14:38] anyone here run a slackware mirror? [14:39] thanks for telling me. [14:39] perlsyntax (~perlsynta@adsl-68-248-237-150.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:39] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:39] the development branch of slackware has since updated to 5.10.1 [14:39] or rsync to slackware.osuosl.org? [14:40] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:47] PenPerkInc (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-69-33.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-178-65.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:50] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:51] slackware.osuosl.org hasn't updated for several days and doesn't have the most recent security patches [14:52] so, use another mirror :) [14:52] jimi: maybe you should use a different mirror [14:52] i did, i switched to ftp.slackware.com. i just thought maybe someone here knew what happened to osuosl.org [14:53] jimi: yeah, several people have been noting this [14:54] jimi: someone on the SBo list mentioned it's been happening with a lot of the US mirrors recently [14:54] ok, good. if someone was using osuosl.org and thinking they were up to date then that would be bad [14:54] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] I usually have good luck w/ the *.edu mirrors [14:55] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:56] i wish my company could afford more bandwidth. then my mirror would be fast enough to actually be useful to others [14:56] try the norsk mirror, the best there is [14:56] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/ [14:57] I usually use purdue's mirror [14:57] speaking of lost stuff ... the sources for ff 3.6.3 are out now [14:58] ff is lost? [14:58] Suhana (~vash@host217-44-242-7.range217-44.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] they forgot to release the sources cos the release of 3.6.3 was rushed [14:58] heh! [14:58] ah [14:58] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] qneo (~knao@adsl-dyn19.78-99-109.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [15:01] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:02] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [15:02] JonnyV_ (~jonny@190.31.243.135) joined ##slackware. [15:02] hmm latest from -current is ther 31st right? [15:03] looks like it [15:04] JonnyV (~jonny@190.31.246.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:04] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:04] hmm strange. [15:04] jimi: osuosl IS uptodate [15:04] when I look at osuosl .. I see it all up to date... [15:04] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:05] yeah [15:05] sahk0: every rsync i've done to osuosl over the last several days hasn't picked up anything [15:05] and have so since .. well... the 31st :P [15:05] maybe check your script [15:06] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt ? [15:06] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:07] this is my rsync script: rsync -avz --delete $RSYNC_HOST::slackware/slackware64-13.0 /home/ftp/pub [15:08] where $RSYNC_HOST is "slackware.osuosl.org" [15:08] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/ChangeLog.txt [15:08] last update 20100331 [15:09] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp78-119.redrover.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:09] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [15:09] strange. an rsync doesn't get anything after the pidgin update on march 10 [15:09] i just did "rsync -avz --delete slackware.osuosl.org::slackware/slackware64-13.0 /home/ftp/pub" and nothing updated [15:10] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:10] jim_james (~swwww@212.183.140.21) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:11] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: life(); [15:11] and "wget ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/ChangeLog.txt" shows the last change as being on march 10, too [15:11] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [15:12] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:12] jimi: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/qvpsLm24.html [15:14] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.10.116) joined ##slackware. [15:14] pupit (~p@91.150.106.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:14] BP{k}: i must be living in crazyland because if i run that identical command i get a ChangeLog.txt that was last changed on march 10 [15:15] yiup (~nee@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:15] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:15] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:16] BP{k}: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/pZjhbM89.html [15:18] is there a way to force eth1 to use wpa_supplicant instead of iwconfig? [15:18] rbellamy (~rbellamy@adsl-69-105-233-172.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:18] I have a laptop and I connect to two wireless networks - one needs wpa, so I have a config file for it and run wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd.. but sometimes I need to go on the other, which will just do iwconfig. now it won't let me connect to the wpa network [15:19] raendeer: you want to use wpa_supplicant on eth1? isn't eth1 an ethernet device? i would expect you would use wanX with wpa_supplicant [15:19] raendeer, yes.. [15:19] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.10.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:19] jimi: eth1 is my wireless network. eth0 is ethernet [15:20] jimi, eth1 is the second ethernet device, but it can be wireless all the same (it's just an alias) [15:20] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Necos: most days I just do iwconfig eth1 essid none then run the wpa_supplicant stuff [15:20] jimi: you know that 802.11 is "Wireless ETHERNET", right? [15:20] Necos: but currently my laptop keeps setting the essid back to RedRover, even when I set it to another network that shows in iwlist.. [15:21] raendeer, i'd just use wicd nowadays... it was pita to set up, but it works a lot better (and it's more uniform) [15:21] sitwon: yes. just on all my system ethX has always matched an ethernet card and wanX has always matched a wireless card. [15:21] no biggie [15:21] wanX or wlanX? [15:21] wlanX, correct [15:21] Necos: I have a nice set of scripts that usually works fine. this is the first time my laptop has had a shitfit with me with getting back on the wpa, and I've been doing it since feb [15:21] It's up to your driver (and/or udev) what the device is named [15:22] when i stick in a usb stick, how can i find out what it's named so that i can mount it? i tried dmesg|grep usb but that wasn't much help [15:22] jimi: I use eth1 on both of my laptops with wireless, have for years. when I have to use ndiswrapper for a driver, then it gives me wlan0 [15:22] I believe the kernel drivers are starting to prefer ethX [15:22] raendeer, you should probably fold both configs into wpa_supplicant.conf then [15:23] because it _is_ ethernet, the transport layer should be abstracted [15:23] err... physical layer, not transport layer [15:24] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-59-55.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:24] Why do people always cite Water World? they do the same thing in Dune [15:24] raelakoira (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:25] errr.....mt :-( [15:25] lol [15:25] cos there wasnt any slackware mentioned in both films. thats why. [15:26] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:26] they were talking about turning piss into drinking water... something both films have in common but Water World always get the credit for it [15:27] raelakoi1a (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:27] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-178-65.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:27] going to toss this computer out the f'ing window, I swear [15:27] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:27] so if Linux Distros were Dune factions, Slackware would be ...........? [15:27] finally get it on the wpa network, then it flips out when when it sees redrover again and drops the network [15:28] when i stick in a usb stick, how can i find out what it's named so that i can mount it? i tried dmesg|grep usb but that wasn't much help [15:28] udev [15:29] harkonnen [15:29] i'll try that command sitwon [15:29] raelakoira (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:30] What is srv/ directory for? [15:30] ananke: ugh... more like fremen I think [15:30] mirmillo: serving I think [15:31] eg, nfs or tftp shares [15:31] pupit (~p@91.150.106.167) joined ##slackware. [15:31] raela|frankie (~heather@ansci253135050.calsnet.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:32] alright, my laptop is in trouble [15:32] raelakoi1a (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:32] keeps trying for redrover, but then it'll connect and signal will go out [15:32] sitwon: ok, thanks for the info. [15:33] so it is possible to just put multiple networks in wpa_supplicant and choose from there? [15:33] mirmillo: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM [15:33] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.8.78) joined ##slackware. [15:33] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:34] sitwon do i have to install udev seperately? [15:35] yiup: if you're using a semi-recent version of Slackware it's already installed [15:36] you just need to add some rules [15:36] man udev [15:36] or google 'udev tutorial' [15:37] madbear_ (~dude@c83-253-60-113.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [15:37] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:37] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:37] raela|frankie (~heather@ansci253135050.calsnet.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: xterm is annoying me [15:40] Axius (~hi@92.82.91.233) joined ##slackware. [15:40] gaz_ (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:40] raela|frankie (~raela|fra@ansci253135050.calsnet.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:40] madbear (~dude@c83-253-60-113.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:41] raela|frankie, i think it'll try them all... but there is a priority string, so maybe you can use that to order them [15:42] heya Necos [15:43] cypherpunko (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:43] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:44] cypherpunko (cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware. [15:44] yiup (~nee@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: [15:45] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) joined ##slackware. [15:48] InTel_GB (intel@95.43.8.78) left ##slackware. [15:48] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:49] Axius (~hi@92.82.91.233) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:49] note to self [15:50] slackpkg install-new installs everything [15:50] even stuff that only takes space [15:50] such as KDE,, especially since there is no VGA out or other-wise on my board [15:51] wazy, install-new only installs packages that have changed [15:52] well my slackware installation grew from a couple of MB to a lot more MB :p [15:53] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:53] iAVOR (~ppcanfly@unaffiliated/iavor) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:54] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [15:54] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:55] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:56] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [15:57] greetings [15:57] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [15:57] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Hello! Can anyone please clarify how I download this? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/development/cryptoki/ Am I supposed to download all that source? D: [15:58] riza: the source and the slackbuild ;) i thought [15:59] Take a look at it though. [15:59] THere are like 10 different files. [15:59] so? :) [15:59] D: [16:00] lol [16:00] whats the problem with it? [16:01] kernel-panic (~kernel-pa@80.10.46.65) joined ##slackware. [16:01] raela|frankie (~raela|fra@ansci253135050.calsnet.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:01] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:01] riza: source cryptoki.info; wget $DOWNLOAD [16:01] :o [16:01] WAH. [16:01] Wait. [16:02] Going to experiment. [16:02] omfg, I set it to use wpa_supplicant and it still defaulted to fricking redrover [16:02] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [16:03] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] I solved it! :D [16:03] riza: how? [16:03] I'm bad! Yeah! :D [16:03] there was something to solve? ;) [16:03] lol [16:03] solved what.. downloading 10 small files? [16:03] I put all the files into cryptoki and did ./cryptoki.slackBuild. [16:03] lol [16:03] <:) Shush. [16:04] phrag: greetings bro ;) [16:04] riza: ok.... [16:05] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:05] raendeer, wha? [16:05] im watching wargames..;) [16:06] The-Croupier, are you another name for The-Coupler? [16:06] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.147) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Necos: edited stuff in rc.inet1.conf dealing with wireless based off of the slackbook, then also altered stuff in wpa_supplicant.conf.. and it connected to redrover [16:06] riza: i think you asked that again...but no [16:06] did you try the priority line? [16:07] wpa network is at priority 10, redrover at 0 [16:07] The-Croupier, so sorry. <:) I just thought I recognized the name somewhere. [16:07] i think 0 is higher [16:07] thing I found said higher number = high priorit [16:07] y [16:07] oh, hrmmm... [16:07] set it at 100? [16:08] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:09] apparently it should go down the block.. restarting it [16:09] lol [16:10] Erm no offense if I am asking too many ot questions. Necos, are you Nicos? [16:10] Related to someone from ##politics who also has that name too. <:) [16:10] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:10] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:11] still redrover :/ [16:11] no riza... [16:11] Gah. [16:11] don't insult me again like that :P [16:11] strcmp("Necos", "Nicos"); // false [16:12] raelakoira (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:12] oops... _technically_ C doesn't recognize // style comments. (But GCC does) [16:13] hmmmm, "The messenger is now down"... where the hell did that message come from? [16:13] FINALLY. omfg. thanks, Necos, for pointing me in that direction. I'll have to set up all of the networks I use on both of my laptops [16:13] lol [16:13] ;_; [16:14] i get swap 2gb, but none used...is that cas my 3gb memory is alright..:( or it should be using it anyway [16:14] weird. the perdue mirror has the latest changelog, but was missing a bunch of packages in -current [16:14] lol, cool raelakoira :) [16:14] i use no swap [16:15] phrag: thanks ;) [16:15] phrag: where are you man? [16:15] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-168-171.redrover.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:15] ..as in, i do not use a swap, 6gb ram enough =P [16:15] NxTH (~ngik@202.70.59.12) left irc: Quit: ... [16:16] i am here [16:16] phrag: i hope you didnt put 6gb ram, in the little laptop i remember... [16:16] kernel-panic (~kernel-pa@80.10.46.65) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:16] phrag: :p indeed you are...;) [16:16] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: akryl är typ plugnplay och olja är typ DOS [16:16] I like to theorize that it's a "good idea" to have a swap partition even if it won't normally be used [16:16] among other things, your swap partition is used if you want to hibernate your system [16:16] sitwon: well, you never know what you might be up to doing/installing [16:17] phrag: heh, I have 8gb ram and something like 10 or 12gb swap in the one computer I use [16:17] also (on x86) if a process were to go nuts and start allocating memory out of control, it could exaust up to 2GB so it's good to have some buffer [16:17] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:18] raelakoira: that's...wasteful imho, depends on the task the machine was intended for [16:19] phrag: 1TB hdd, so not too worried. it'll be used for analyzing large datasets at some point [16:19] agree ^^ [16:19] phrag: if you want to hibernate you need at least as much available swap space as you have RAM [16:19] generally, a little swap doesn't hurt... if you think you might need to dump your *entire* RAM contents for some reason, then sure.. otherwise what you need so much for ? [16:20] alright, gonna head out for the day.. later all [16:20] raelakoira (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:21] sitwon: as your using surely [16:22] phrag: in theory, but in practice I've seen system refuse to hibernate when the available swap was less than the total RAM (but more than the "used" RAM) [16:25] interesting [16:26] sitwon: that cannot be true [16:26] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:26] i got available swap=2gb, available ram 3gb...it does hibernate just fine [16:27] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:27] The-Croupier: that's what I have observed, I was using the "echo disk > /sys/power/state" method [16:27] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-59-55.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:27] haven't tried it recently, this was on Slackware 12.1 so maybe it was a flaw in older kernels [16:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:28] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:28] nathanbw (~nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] probably... [16:31] blaines (~blaines@12.175.45.195) joined ##slackware. [16:31] in current there is nothing of the kind ;) [16:32] i dont know about 12.1 cos i had only 1gb of ram. then but current is fine [16:32] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [16:32] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:32] if you have ram stuff in ram that your swap can handle, it'll fail of course [16:34] JonnyV_ (~jonny@190.31.243.135) left irc: Quit: hay dos palabras en esta vida que te abrirán muchas puertas..... TIRE Y EMPUJE [16:34] JonnyV (~jonny@190.31.243.135) joined ##slackware. [16:34] thrice`: ?, sorry didnt get that...could please elaborate on that? [16:35] sure, suspending dumps crap from ram to swap. if ram_crap > swap_space, it'll fail [16:35] yeah, but you'd be ill-advised to have less swap than ram on a laptop if you were planning on hibernating [16:36] slackd00d (~slackd00d@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:38] thrice`: i see... [16:38] thrice`: question, is there a way to suspend ram_crap from going to swap_space in the first place? [16:38] kernel or somewhere? [16:39] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:40] usually when hibernating with pm-utils, it'll unload some stuff for you already [16:40] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:40] you mean hibernate to a swap file or something? [16:40] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:41] trrag (~trrag@g229050149.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Action: Delahunt just doesn't suspend to disk, only suspend to ram [16:44] i do LUKS+LVM and i set mine up to understand hibernate like alienBOB's document suggests, but for some reason my laptops don't like that [16:44] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:44] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) joined ##slackware. [16:44] it don't matter though [16:45] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:45] well, i am not planning on hibernating, but i was asking to know what would happen, just for info ;) [16:46] oh [16:46] technically you could add to your swap for the purposes of hibernating, if you had to [16:48] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:51] qneo (knao@adsl-dyn19.78-99-109.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [16:51] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-69-33.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:53] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:53] i dont understand, why do some slackbuilds, in the make have colors, nice rendering, format...etc. and some others are just a mess...is it fixed in the slackbuild or is it something to do with the make or soemthing else....:( [16:53] it's make vs. cmake [16:53] cmake [16:53] it's the method [16:53] automake versus cmake [16:53] ... [16:53] both call to the compiler through make [16:53] lol [16:53] ./configure is called an automake script [16:54] but anyways, you get the point [16:54] well, this one choqok i see in the build/ has cmake [16:54] Action: Delahunt promises he isn't splitting hairs [16:54] anyways, time to hop in the japanese car to go to the japanese mcdonalds for breakfast 8-) [16:55] japanese mcdonalds > american mcdonalds [16:55] clean, hot food, perfectionist workers, etc [16:55] it's still mcdonalds [16:55] Delahunt: mcdonalds == american :p [16:55] don't try to sugar coat a turd [16:55] antiwire: lol ;) [16:55] what if i had syrup on my pancakes? is that sugar coating what will become a turd? 8-) [16:55] no trust me you should come try this mcdonalds, it's way better, you'll be impressed [16:56] as the saying goes: a pig in a dress is still a pig. [16:56] are we still talking about mcdonalds? [16:56] hahahaha [16:56] >.< [16:56] eeeeeeeeew mcdonalds!!! [16:56] if you put a dress on a pig, you're disgusting :P [16:57] Action: Delahunt thinks ang had a freudian slip about his date last night 8-) [16:57] Delahunt: lol [16:57] lol [16:57] actually [16:57] why the hell has osuosl not updated? [16:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.40.183) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:57] jitsu wa... [16:57] Razec (1000@189-92-42-41.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:57] antiwire: as widely known, osuosl is a primary mirror, its updated alright [16:57] blaines (~blaines@12.175.45.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:57] the last time I had McDonalds the food actually look like it does on the commerical or their posters. it was meticulously made and not sloppy like usual [16:58] lol that's freaky [16:58] it was. I almost took a picture of it [16:58] sahk0: oh really? http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [16:58] gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] if you get there a bit after regualr emal hours you can get fresh sicne all the stockpiled stuff has been sued up lol [16:59] sued up? :P [16:59] Action: NyteOwl typing sucks today [16:59] antiwire: weirdly enough someone was making the same claims some hours ago. he was wrong, and so are you :p [16:59] gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:59] i dont know why you both seem to think so though:) [16:59] are you using slackpkg? [17:00] I am using rsync [17:00] the file you linked at starts with : Wed Mar 31 18:33:50 UTC 2010 [17:00] so its updated [17:00] they actually had these computers on the wall there where kids could play games. one rebooted and you could tell it was running linux [17:00] Then their load balancer is broken. [17:00] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [17:00] sahk0: it is not updated for me. [17:00] and I am not the only one [17:00] antiwire: weird , it has worked from day1 here [17:01] So, really....no I am not wrong. this seems like a regional issue. [17:01] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] maybe [17:01] BP{k} could also see it updated too [17:01] he is in UK [17:01] i am in california [17:02] here's a pic of it: http://ab7.org/mclinux.jpg [17:02] antiwire: contact admins? [17:02] is this in regards to the changelogs? [17:03] yea [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-180.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] ClaudioM: It seems like the osuosl load balancing is broken. Some people see updated Changelogs and others do not [17:04] yeah I see it not being updated recently on osuosl [17:04] sahk0: ... [17:04] see, I am not "wrong" [17:04] ClaudioM: are you from the US too? [17:04] changelog seems last updated 16march and i am from the same country as you sahk0 [17:04] yeah, but i wonder if it's regional like mentioned [17:05] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:05] oh gee look, antiwire really isn't wrong [17:05] :p [17:05] can't blame us for assuming ;) [17:05] :-p [17:05] Tue Mar 16 19:16:29 UTC 2010 i get for http, ftp, slackware current and current64 ;) [17:06] maybe some other version is updated ;) [17:07] sahk0: which mirror are you seeing it listed with current dates? [17:07] the discussion only took place regarding osuosl [17:07] ah ok [17:07] checking mirrors.tds.net mirror for slackware [17:08] if you ping ping osuosl.org what IP does it resolve to? [17:08] I get hawthorn.osuosl.org (140.211.166.148) [17:08] gaz_ (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:08] see, tds shows March 31 [17:08] for slackware stable [17:08] ping osuosl.org [17:08] same for current in tds mirror [17:09] sahk0: what mirror are you using? [17:09] omfg. I give up [17:10] The-Croupier: i checked osuosl earlier and now. seemed updated and fine both times [17:10] dude seriously. [17:10] the osuosl mirror pinged back [17:10] sahk0: its ok he gave up [17:10] ping osuosl.org and show me what IP is resolves to... [17:10] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] hah [17:10] 64.50.236.52 [17:10] for me anyway [17:10] oh gee imagine that [17:10] hawthorn.osuosl.org (140.211.166.148) [17:10] 140.211.166.148 [17:10] so yes....load balancer is jacked up [17:11] ClaudioM: you fail [17:11] antiwire: not really, I'm using the tds mirror which is up to date :-p [17:11] whois 64.50.236.52 OrgName: TDS TELECOM [17:11] OrgID: TDST [17:11] no really, you fail... [17:11] lol [17:11] ah wel [17:12] i get 64.50.236.52 too :( [17:13] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:13] ping rsync.osuosl.org [17:13] PING rsync.osuosl.org (64.50.236.52) 56(84) bytes of data. [17:13] 64 bytes from ftp-chi.osuosl.org (64.50.236.52) [17:14] I got the same address...ftp-chi.osuosl.org [17:14] rsync gives me 140.211.166.134 [17:14] ok i see what's going on [17:14] PING rsync.osuosl.org (140.211.166.134) 56(84) bytes of data. [17:14] so you fail then? [17:14] 64 bytes from ubuntu.osuosl.org (140.211.166.134): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=276 ms [17:14] :-p [17:14] omg ubuntu [17:14] no I don't fail, I see [17:15] you see that you failed? [17:15] :-p [17:17] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:17] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Quit: quiz: what`s the only stable thing in earth ? [17:21] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [17:22] can anyone suggest something to help with being able to see a laptop screen outside? [17:22] duct tape and cardboard [17:22] i know that for my blackberry they make these weird covers you can put on the screen that let you see better in the light [17:23] i think they are suppose to be used for privacy or something though [17:23] anti-glare? [17:23] increase brightness to max? [17:23] go inside? 8-) [17:23] but the weather is so nice. and my wifi reaches the pool... [17:24] i have my screen facing directl opposite of the sun, but i still just see my reflection. i can barely read the white text on a black background to use irssi [17:24] one of those glossy screens? [17:25] well sun > lcd in brightness [17:25] can you put an umbrella above your chair? [17:25] Delahunt: idk. i've noticed that even in the mornings in my apartment when the sun is coming in the windows behind my desk, the screen gets harder to see [17:25] of course it isn't nearly this bad [17:25] v6CommO (~chris@pool-74-111-219-13.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] i was just wondering if there was some kind of cover i could get for the screen that might help [17:26] anyone have any luck with the Brother MFC-7840W? [17:27] man we need a google function in here [17:27] (not to tell you to use google, but to figure out what some of those cryptic model #s are) [17:27] vastina (jaird@64.215.163.99) joined ##slackware. [17:27] dios_mio (test@88.244.196.55) joined ##slackware. [17:28] Delahunt: those are quite simple to write. google's api that uses json is really simple. [17:28] i'm not the bot master [17:28] usually the problem comes in when people use it because they are too lazy to open their browser and use google [17:28] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] and it spams the channel [17:28] laziness is the american way 8-P [17:29] oh ok it's an all-in-one wireless printer [17:29] I'm rsyncing to slackware.mirrors.tds.net instead [17:29] no google bots =P [17:29] *topeka bots [17:30] oh wait, it isn't april fools anymore... [17:30] Delahunt: yeah...was hoping that someone monitoring the channel would be able to say "Have one, works great!" [17:30] before I pick one up [17:30] oh no big deal [17:30] have you seen LQ's HCL? [17:30] I just installed Arch for the first time, and did not find it very difficult (although challenging). I would like something new for my server; a more 'stable' OS that arch, (server currently running ubuntu-server). You think I should try Slackware? [17:30] (Linux Questions (.org) Hardware Compatibility List) ? [17:30] yeah...that and openprinting don't list it [17:30] Noble, yeah since you're in ##slackware [17:31] Noble: definitely [17:31] v6CommO: i believe that brother's printers are friendly with linux. i am thinking about getting one of their cheap wireless laser printers(that only does momochrome), and i haven't seen complaints about them [17:31] Only thing scaring me a bit is that people say dependencies is a nightmare in Slack, is that true? [17:32] no [17:32] zaltekk: heard the same thing [17:32] it depends which side of the bed you are sleeping [17:32] Noble: i've never used archlinux, but from reading over forums and wikis, it seems really unpolished. if you've noticed that too, you'll probably find slackware much nicer [17:32] wtf? you come into slackware and ask "hmm should i use slackware? i use ubuntu" [17:32] excuse me... [17:32] The question was "should i TRY slackware". [17:32] Action: Delahunt hands vastina a valium [17:32] Action: vastina thanks Delahunt [17:32] 8-) [17:32] Action: vastina then passes out and idles [17:32] hehe [17:33] Noble: who says it's a nightmare? [17:33] and they Brother has pages on their site dedicated to linux drivers/wrappers and instances of file editing for specific models [17:33] for nvidia drivers, i don't recall , is pkg0 correct or pkg1 ? [17:33] ang: Its what I've picked up on some forums. [17:33] or pkg2 [17:33] Noble: those people were probably clueless [17:33] Noble: again, like i said, archlinux looks like a mess compared to slackware. just use the recommended "install everything" option(of course, you can be choosy about the package sets still), and you shouldn't worry about dependencies except for strange unsupported software. slackbuilds.org is a great help [17:34] wario: pk2 for the 195 I think [17:34] but nvidia recently released a new driver that i think fixed the 2.6.33 issues [17:34] guitarman (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] I see. Is this guide up to date? http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/install_slackware.html [17:34] Noble: it's not hard to install something, realize something else is missing and install that. [17:34] zaltekk: thanks [17:34] ang: I see. [17:34] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:34] Noble: slackpkg is a good friend to have [17:35] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:35] Nick change: guitarman -> _guitarman_ [17:35] The slackware installer should be intuitive [17:35] _juan (500@200.93.7.226) joined ##slackware. [17:35] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:36] While im here, what kind of software do you reccomend for running a headless virtualization server? [17:36] Noble: ssh? [17:36] Why do you need a headless virtualization server? [17:37] Just for kicks :D I like trying stuff out. [17:38] Like I could have a server running all my test OSes virtualized. And my desktop could have some sort of client to connect to them. [17:38] You can do that with all virtualization software (that I know of) [17:38] Noble: you probably want vnc then [17:39] which is independent of the virtualization technology [17:39] zaltekk: kvm has a vnc server built-in [17:39] I see. [17:39] zaltekk: virtualbox has a rdp server also built-in [17:39] i was assuming he was going to use Xen [17:39] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:39] xen works too [17:39] although KVM is a very nice option too(if you have support from your hardware) [17:40] virtualbox needs a GUI to configure, or am I wrong here? I was hoping to keep the host OS CLI only. [17:40] Although other options are significatly easier to set up [17:40] Noble: VBoxClient [17:40] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [17:41] NaCl: Ty, will look into that. [17:41] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:41] Nick change: diven_ -> diven [17:41] does slackware have bloat-at-your-fingertips like 'aptitude install djview4' or 'yum install djview4'? i think the slackbuilds.org way needs more admin attention [17:42] nope [17:42] trrag: there are third party package management systems, but they usually aren't recommended [17:43] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:46] is there a way to get the external ip of the machine with any command and pipe to file (piping >ipfile) [17:46] Noble: there, i think that's what people are calling "nightmare" [17:52] righteous_ (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) got netsplit. [17:52] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) got netsplit. [17:52] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.147) got netsplit. 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[18:04] cypherpunko: the plasma widgets? work fine here [18:04] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:04] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] -current64, kde 4.4.2 [18:05] cypherpunko: full install? [18:06] as far as I know yes [18:06] ive had that once when i accidentaly removed lm_sensors. but working fine here too [18:06] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:06] I don't check the 'System Monitor' everyday, but the day before upgrade it was working [18:07] hmm what do you know .. something is broke in -current? zomg ;-P [18:09] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] when I right-click on the graph and go into 'Properties' I don't get anything entered int he 'Sensors' tab and I don't know how to change that. Does anyone know where the location of the script is for that? 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[18:13] cypherpunko: just to be sure this is regarding KDE right? [18:13] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.20.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:14] zounds (~zounds@80.85.119.158) returned to ##slackware. [18:14] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:14] raela (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [18:14] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) returned to ##slackware. [18:14] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) returned to ##slackware. [18:14] Zordrak (~jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) returned to ##slackware. [18:14] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-180-140.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] yes, I haven't checked in other wm but it shouldn't matter should it - and btw htop is fine so it's a setting w/System Monitor [18:14] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) returned to ##slackware. 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[18:21] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:21] omg [18:23] cypherpunko: hm I have opened all system monitor plasma applets, but I don't see *any* with "sensors" and htey seem to working fine. This is KDE 4.3.5 we are taking about right? [18:23] _juan (500@200.93.7.226) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:24] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Client Quit [18:24] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:24] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) returned to ##slackware. [18:24] i dont think hes talking about a widget. but the kde system monitor app [18:24] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) returned to ##slackware. [18:25] sinkigobopo (~sinkigobo@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) returned to ##slackware. [18:25] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] DBAmethyst (~panzer@69-29-105-1.stat.centurytel.net) returned to ##slackware. [18:25] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.97.181) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:25] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [18:26] KDE 4.3.5 yes [18:26] still failing to compile monit [18:26] now I have a full installation [18:26] should not be a problem [18:26] yet it is [18:27] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.206.57) joined ##slackware. [18:27] Action: BP{k} boots into KDE for the first time in months :D [18:29] any suggestions or ideas? [18:29] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:29] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] cypherpunko: when you say "can't get anything entered in the sensor tab" what exactly do you mean? [18:35] godane (~arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:52] startx -- -nolisten tcp [18:53] ;) that is the one i suppose [18:53] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:53] ok [18:53] can i start a application with root access without having to run a konsole with root priviledges and run the application... im not sure if you could understand me :D [18:53] there's nothing i can set in the config file? [18:54] iAVOR: sudo? [18:54] echelon: if you want to make X listen on some, but not all, interfaces, use the -from parameter [18:54] kdesu [18:54] thanks. :) [18:55] sahk0: ill give it a try [18:55] gksu was for ubuntu :) [18:55] i guess kdesu is the same :D [18:56] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] alienBOB: why would one want to make x listen to anything? [18:56] ssh? [18:57] if you want to run X clients on other machines which does not have ssh [18:57] it worked :) [18:57] or if the clients in question are very very thin and you trust the network [18:57] thanks sahk0 [18:57] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:58] at work we still login with telnet to the solaris servers for example [18:58] i'm so wishing when we throw out the sgi machine that i can take it home [18:58] it's an indy [18:59] :D and it looks great [18:59] nice [18:59] ahhh i see...well it wouldnt be nice to have it listening to anything if it is a home pc then ;) and you dont like someone to login in your pc ;) [18:59] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.147) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:59] yeah i do not like the default of startx to listen to 6000 [18:59] is there a way to check my external ip-address i cannot see it anywhere...:( [19:00] so i have -nolisten tcp hardcoded in it [19:00] goarilla: i personally write it everytime i log in ;) [19:00] The-Croupier: type 'what is my ip' in google [19:01] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] The-Croupier: lynx --dump http://checkip.dyndns.com:8245/ [19:01] ananke: i know that [19:01] The-Croupier: if you knew that, why did you have to ask? [19:01] i just need something to pipe it to a script file ;) [19:01] add an alias to that in .bashrc to something like myip for easy access. [19:02] yep that works ;) [19:02] :0) [19:02] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-227-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:02] i will cat it up, and pipe it to script... need to check ports...etc...;) thanks ;) [19:03] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-227-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] curl -s myip.nl | grep -E -oe '([0-9]{1,3}\.){3}[0-9]{1,3}' [19:05] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:06] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] goarilla: ? [19:07] that's your outside ip [19:07] with a newline [19:07] at the start [19:09] i'm just trying to help The-Croupier [19:10] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [19:11] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:11] Noble (~stefan@158.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] nonono (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] I had my laptop running slack 13.0, with fluxbox, connected for the first time to a projector today. The x server had to be restarted in order for projector to see the video input and even after that, I had about 20% of the screen missing. What is the best way to export video to a projector? [19:12] cypherpunko (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [19:16] The-Croupier (ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [19:20] cryptic0: do you have xfce insalled? [19:20] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:20] cryptic0: its known for handling multiple displays the best [19:20] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: shonudo [19:21] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-227-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:21] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-227-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] really? it doesn't ship with any randr utility by default [19:21] nonono (cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:22] cypherpunko (cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware. [19:22] well from my experience it's done the best job as for as options i guess [19:26] ive forgot the command to see my uid [19:27] nvm [19:27] id [19:27] ! :D [19:27] stat1c (~stat1c@24.229.194.61.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:30] trrag (~trrag@g229050149.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:31] john_dee (~id@93-81-71-130.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [19:31] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:32] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:32] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [19:32] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:33] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:34] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:35] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:35] hey guys, any have thoughts on which kernel preemtion model to use? [19:35] \o phrag [19:35] Voluntary Kernel Preemption or Preemtible Kernel? (Low Latency Desktop) [19:35] hi fire|bird =) [19:36] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [19:36] phrag: that is what i use [19:36] phrag: oops, i use the middle option not that one [19:36] noticed any improvements from the vouluntary? [19:36] oh, that's what slack's generic uses [19:37] i did try it once a while back and there was improvements though it caused some hangs for me. [19:37] I always use the Low Latency Desktop one. [19:37] fire|bird: how do you find it? [19:38] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-227-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:38] though, i was also having hangs caused by other factors so it's probably not a very good opinion to go by [19:38] fire|bird: i'm on an i7 3.8GHz 6GB DDR3... i'm going to try the low latency model [19:38] phrag: I'm on a P4 3.2GHz + HT [19:38] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:39] phrag: I have never had any issues using that one, I've also used the Real-time kernel patch before for working with some audio apps to get as low latency as possible. [19:41] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [19:41] phrag: nice system:) [19:42] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:43] hitest: it was a well deserved upgrade from a p4 2.6 that ran 27/7/365 for about 6 years before dieing an honourable death =P [19:43] phrag: have a decent video card to go with it? [19:43] gtx 260 [19:43] nice [19:43] air cooled? [19:43] phrag: apache server? [19:44] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4219, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-03-26 04:04:08 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [19:44] kvirc's obnoxious quit message is enough for me to not wanna try it out [19:45] indeed [19:45] marketing fail++ ? [19:45] hitest: desktop [19:45] nice [19:45] slackware64? [19:45] oh ofc, slackware64-current, multilib, kde 3.4.2 =) [19:47] No 4.4.2? ;-) [19:47] cool:) I'm running 32 bit -current on two old Pllls. very nice indeed with Fluxbox:) [19:47] phrag: just curious, did you get a custom case? if so what di dyou go for [19:47] stat1c (~stat1c@24.229.194.61.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:48] i'm sort of in the market [19:50] janemba (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:52] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:53] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:57] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [20:01] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:02] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:07] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:10] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] wario: antec p180 [20:11] it's nice and quiet with plenty room and nice thermal separation =) [20:11] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:11] Nick change: gm152 -> Guest31259 [20:11] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:12] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:12] phrag: it is a nice case. That's what I used for my workstation [20:13] i did block up the top fan grill tho, better air flow that way [20:13] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:14] I have a fan running in it. Actually all fan positions are filled and it's still rpetty quiet. I pulled the tricools and replaced the lower and rear with 100rpm Scythe and the mid front and top with 800 rpm Scythe, aswell as the CPU fan though it usually isn;t running [20:15] Guest31259 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:15] does anyone know of a command line webbrowser that can handle javascript? [20:15] gm151 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] depends on the specific box / best air flow i guess, they are nice cases tho =) [20:15] what we need now is more desktops with passive cooling [20:16] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] i'm still getting used to my new laptop, which makes no sound other than the keyboard clicks [20:17] stat1c (~stat1c@24.229.194.61.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) left irc: Quit: pz [20:17] yeah, thermal controlled is the way to go... having the cooling capacity if you should need it, but most of the time running silent [20:17] antec 900 is much better it think :) [20:18] I can'thear mine as I usually listen to music while working at the desk [20:18] phrag: actually, i'm not even sure whether this laptop has any fans. [20:18] 900 is a dust magnet [20:18] screw fans, i want fully passive cooling on a desktop [20:18] ananke: just good heat pipes? [20:18] any computer is a dust magnet [20:18] or u can go watercooling [20:18] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:18] i run kde4 on my thinkpad, scaled to 800mhz, and mine hardly turns on too [20:19] crashdata: that's the issue i face, nice shiney new box i meticuliously put together gets covered in dust so quickly due to the carpet in this room [20:19] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:19] phrag, just dust it off every month :)...or go watercooling [20:19] annoying, but just means i have to give it a clean more often,.. until i can afford to build a clean room =P [20:19] phrag: ultra low voltage processor, and ssd. i kid you not, i really don't know if there is a fan inside, since i don't hear it nor feel any breeze [20:20] ananke: i do like ssd, have it in desktop and doesnt make a sound or kick off much heat at all [20:20] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:20] not sure where u are but ncix has cookit for sale :P [20:20] http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=50327&vpn=ECO-R&manufacture=CoolIT%20Systems&promoid=1219 [20:20] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:20] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:21] j0z (~j0z@201.47.24.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:21] j0z (~j0z@201.47.24.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [20:21] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:21] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:21] have u tried antec sonata 3? [20:22] not enough room [20:22] ahhh [20:22] i'm also pleased to see more smaller factor forms for pcs. make them smaller, and less noise. not many people expand/upgrade individual components anymore [20:23] stat1c (~stat1c@24.229.194.61.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:28] anyone use thunderbird 3 with gmail imap? [20:29] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.29.39) joined ##slackware. [20:30] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [20:30] hi Necos and NaCl [20:33] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:41] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:42] is pae enabled in the kernel for 32-bit boot? [20:42] i want it for using the full 4 GiB of RAM. [20:43] no its not [20:43] Wescotte (~WuzzleWaz@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:43] yeah, i have the antec 900 [20:44] it is loud [20:44] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-167-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [20:44] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Disconnected by services [20:44] jg71_ (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [20:45] iAVOR (~ppcanfly@unaffiliated/iavor) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:45] water cool would be much better and don't have to worry about fans going, which i've had happen on the antec900 with the front two fans [20:45] hardcorecomputer.com wario [20:45] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:45] thx [20:45] liquid cooled components, not air cooled, they are all submerged [20:48] I have certain misgivings about putting a corrosive electrically conductive substance where it can possibly leak all over the innards of my computer :) [20:49] yermandu (~yermandu@unaffiliated/yermandu) left irc: Quit: Money ... get away [20:49] i like how they give the option for no OS [20:49] that computer is already soaked inside the liquid [20:50] all the components are wet [20:50] jg71_ (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:50] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [20:50] newslacker (~kc@72-161-171-43.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] still, I have all the components, i'm just looking for a water cooled case [20:51] newslacker (kc@72-161-171-43.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [20:51] many to choose from, just hope you dont spring a leak [20:51] or.... bye bye compter [20:52] heheh [20:52] i like the hardcore computer [20:52] its nice [20:52] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [20:52] yeah, looks nice [20:53] did you watch the video? [20:53] really cool [20:53] and funny [20:53] still need to do more checking on the hardware to see if there will be any problems with installing linux on it [20:55] iAVOR (~ppcanfly@unaffiliated/iavor) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Ubuntu = an african word meaning Slackware is easier to pronouce [20:56] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[21:57] I don't know why there was a change, but by using the values from a backup file I put the omelette back in the shell as it were [21:58] cypherpunko: and glued it back together? ;) [21:58] It's spinning like a hard boiled now BP{k} [22:00] hehehe [22:01] 5EXAALV7W (~chris@pool-74-111-219-13.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [22:05] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [22:06] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Client Quit [22:07] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:08] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::5825) joined ##slackware. [22:12] dios_mio (test@88.244.196.55) left irc: [22:12] dios mio, que pena [22:21] Razec (1000@189-92-42-41.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:26] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:44] cypherpunko, yeah,it is quiet for the night [22:49] I suppose that's good, but I learn a lot from the traffic when I come here [22:49] hey, it's a friday night in usa.. hopefully people are out having lives :P [22:50] Polaris (~igorkhs@187.37.151.144) joined ##slackware. [22:52] JonnyV (~jonny@190.31.243.135) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:52] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) joined ##slackware. [22:53] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:53] cypherpunko (cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:56] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) joined ##slackware. [22:57] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:58] MLanden: enjoying a nice islay malt ..so all is well. ;) [22:59] BP{k}, cool to hear....tap a swallow to the bunny for the weekend...:D [23:02] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:05] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [23:05] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Client Quit [23:06] KaMii (nebulae@91.90.29.39) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:07] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] Polaris (igorkhs@187.37.151.144) left ##slackware. [23:09] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:09] aenima1577g (~aenima157@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:17] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-184-203.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:17] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] Is it just me or did the OSUOSL mirror get reverted? [23:17] I checked yesterday and it had the new packages (the batch containing Firefox 3.6.2), but it no longer does. [23:18] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:18] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) joined ##slackware. [23:21] aenima1577g (~aenima157@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:26] Which Slackware version? [23:28] Razec (1000@187-27-222-131.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:31] veritos: if you use this link: ftp://140.211.166.142/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/ChangeLog.txt <- does it show then? [23:31] BP{k}, yes [23:32] Is it an issue with round robin mirrors not yet having synchronised ? [23:32] veritos: ( antiwire) so yes....load balancer is jacked up [23:33] veritos: load balancer/round robin database of osuosl .. seems gone wonky [23:33] ah [23:33] jeagoss (jef@173.172.195.32) left irc: Quit: Gone Indefinitely [23:34] jeagoss (jef@173.172.195.32) joined ##slackware. [23:34] test34 (~test34@c-69-244-243-126.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] test34 (~test34@c-69-244-243-126.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:34] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:34] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:34] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-178-65.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Action: veritos decides that it is not a good idea that he works for a load balancer company [23:35] shhhhh [23:35] at least you work somewhere [23:35] so it's all your fault? ;-) [23:36] Yep, all my fault :( [23:37] Nick change: jeagoss -> jeagone [23:39] newslacker (~kc@72-161-171-43.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] e2718 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] i just did something in dolphin with ftp transfers or something and now kde is telling me 3 jobs are running. how can i view what these jobs are? [23:45] amazon10x, `ps aux | grep ^your_username_here` [23:45] I find KDE quite twitchy these days. I tried to start a terminal emulator and it put an icon in my bottom panel. I tried to remove the icon and it started the terminal emulator. [23:45] If your username is >8 characters in length, use your numerical user id as output by `id -un` [23:45] id -u, not id -un [23:46] frequently when I start something from the K menu, it thinks I am trying to drag the icon. Then I click in the started application and it tries to paste the icon into the application. Sometimes the application will crash. [23:47] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:48] has anyone used qgit here? [23:49] beatzz (~beatzz@66-90-163-118.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [23:49] beatzz (~beatzz@66-90-163-118.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:49] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.141) joined ##slackware. [23:51] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-dnhiqkvrgxilvelx) left ##slackware. [23:51] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-dnhiqkvrgxilvelx) joined ##slackware. [23:51] ok, tonight's riddle is this... I have a 2wire 3800hgv uverse gateway device, and it only allows me to assign 1 IP address to each MAC address that it sees as connected to it. I only have 1 physical ethernet card to plug into it. how would I go about getting a total of 5 devices assigned addresses from my /29 subnet in a way that the 2wire sees each IP as coming from a diff MAC but my linux box treating them as part of the same unit? [23:51] anybody know how I can accomplish this? [23:51] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-dnhiqkvrgxilvelx) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:52] transparent bridge? [23:52] http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8172?page=0,0 [23:53] nathan (~nathan@d47-69-124-115.try.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [23:53] Nick change: nathan -> Guest24206 [23:53] you know, I did try to set up a bridge named br0 with devs eth0, tap1, tap2 added to it [23:54] what about just hanging the gateway device off a switch? [23:54] I seemed to have to add 1 of my IP's to br0 to get any traffic at all. but then I add an additional IP to tap1, and nothing [23:54] hm, maybe it does not have ethernet [23:55] e2718: the 2wire abuses arp in a bad way, and it only allows 1 IP per MAC address that it sees [23:55] question, is the slackware install just like the arch linux installer? Never installed slackware before, so i dont know [23:56] ahem [23:56] installer* [23:56] Do these devices allow changing the MAC address, preferably before they're hooked up so that the ARP broadcast won't give a hint to the 2wire? [23:56] Guest24206: never installed arch linux, so here's what I'd say - try installing it and see what happens [23:56] ok [23:57] veritos: which devices? i only have one physical device, that's eth0. tap1, tap2 both show different MAC addresses, but for some reason the 2wire doesn't pick up on them. [23:57] Guest24206, they're both text UI, but the Arch installer tends to install a very minimal package set whereas Slackware recommends that you install pretty much everything [23:57] ah ic [23:57] mishehu, nevermind, misread you, sorry [23:57] Guest24206: slackware does have multiple different install modes [23:58] which kernel is 13.0 using? [23:58] 2.6.30? [23:58] Guest24206: newbie, full, custom tagfiles, and expert [23:58] should i choose full? [23:58] personally i would prefer a minimal default install, but i can grok that laziness should reign supreme [23:58] does slackware have a lot of developers? [23:58] just curious [23:58] Guest24206, if you're new to Slackware, install full at first and choose what you want to get rid of later [23:58] ic [23:58] Guest24206, no, you can count them on one hand, maybe two [23:59] ah ic [23:59] Guest24206: slackware is OK with binary packages. firefox is just repackaged from mozilla binaries. it is not rebuilt. [23:59] laaaaazy [00:00] --- Sat Apr 3 2010