[00:09] lsbrum (n=lucas@unaffiliated/lsbrum) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [00:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [00:18] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:20] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-8-84.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [00:26] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [00:33] entersandman (n=puppy@adsl-65-43-230-164.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] i never know, whats pdf reader from kde? [00:36] kpdf [00:36] other [00:37] evince FTW (no Ks!!!) [00:37] powtrix: you mean kde4's okular? [00:37] y0 edman007 [00:37] hey AnonymousRednek [00:37] ah okular [00:37] o/ [00:37] tks ;) [00:37] fire|bird, hey [00:37] powtrix, too many ks [00:37] Wilblake (n=matheus@unaffiliated/wilblake) joined ##slackware. [00:37] kiss edman007 [00:38] edman007++ evince is good :) [00:38] edman007: evince? gosh I haven't used that in a long time. [00:38] howdy BP{k} [00:38] ah never tested that [00:38] brb [00:38] will [00:38] fire|bird, nooo [00:39] fire|bird: howdy :) [00:39] fire|bird, up for a game of guess that tune? [00:39] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:39] Action: edman007 puts his ear up against the screen [00:40] edman007, i'll post lyrics, guess from there [00:40] the internet? [00:40] you let me violate you, you let me desecrate you, you let me complicate you, you let me penetrate you [00:41] that is an easy one [00:41] well alright, pull down your pants [00:41] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [00:42] edman007, which song is that? [00:42] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [00:43] well i could put it into google, but i won't, i probably never heard it, sounds like some rock song though, as that would explain it [00:44] AnonymousRednek: NIN - Closer [00:44] fire|bird, exactly [00:45] edman007: do you ever print pdf's from evince? Does it ever cut the bottom of the page off? I always have issues with that, but I've never tried printing from evince. [00:45] song 2: walking to the refrigerator, door is closed, lights are out, butter's getting hard [00:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:46] fire|bird, i'm too lazy to set my printer up, last time i printed from linux was over a year ago, and IIRC evince was actually pretty good, though i may have done pdf2ps something.pdf > /path/to/printer a few times when i had problems [00:47] AnonymousRednek: Hmm, System of a Down, but I can't think of the title. [00:47] i've been printing with my mac recently because i don't have to click buttons to make it work [00:47] fire|bird, right, song, "chick 'n' stu" [00:48] Ah, alright. I've heard that before, just couldn't think of the title. :P [00:48] edman007: does evince have many deps? [00:48] fire|bird, hell yea, half of gnome [00:48] edman007: In other words, I could just as well install gnome? :P [00:49] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:49] i got away with basically installing all the deps of gnome, it does not actually need gnome, but it needs most of the libs used by gnome [00:49] song 3: i wish i was a catfish swimming in the deep blue sea, i'll have all you pretty women fishing after me [00:50] edman007: alright, well, I had been thinking about installing gnome anyway (gware) so I could get it that way, but I'm loving kde4 and flux. :P [00:50] Action: edman007 is using flux right now, with various gtk apps [00:51] AnonymousRednek: Hmm, never heard of that one. [00:51] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. 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[00:53] so I always end up starting my windows box to print a pdf. :( [00:55] fire|bird, umm, it could be the PDF, PDF is a very strict format in that unlike .odt/.doc it actually does specify what physical page every little detail should be and physically where on the page it should be, you may be trying to print an A4 pdf on Letter paper [00:55] letter paper is shorter than a4, so you would expect a pdf for a4 won't fit on letter paper [00:56] and it is also possible that your printer can't print where the PDF specifies the data should be [00:57] edman007: yeah, I've double checked the paper size and this occurs with many different pdf's and I use the same printer from windows and it prints fine there. [00:58] edman007: I've also tried adjusting margins, etc. with no success. [00:58] fire|bird, you checked the paper size of the PDF? (not the printer settings) [00:58] edman007: yeah [00:59] fire|bird, a PDF is VERY specific, and a correct application should ignore the printer settings, a pdf more or less provides the settings [00:59] so what does the PDF say its meant to print on? [00:59] guess: i was born in a trunk, momma died and daddy got drunk, left me here to die alone [00:59] and you are in the US using Letter? or are you using A4? [00:59] US using letter [00:59] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-247-133.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] i can't mount my usb digital camera, not even with digikam, do i need to download something else ? [01:00] should say its meant to print on something like 'US Letter, Landscape (11.00 x 8.50 inch)' [01:00] deco, what kind? [01:00] thats what evince told me about one of my pdfs [01:00] TwinReverb: canon powershot SD790, it mounts with np on other distros [01:01] fire|bird, and do you have a postscript compatible printer? [01:01] edman007: yeah, that's what mine have shown as well. [01:01] deco, is usbstorage loaded? [01:01] is udev enabled? [01:01] what version slackware? [01:01] edman007: Umm, I believe so but can't remember, how can I check? It's an HP D2430 [01:01] TwinReverb: 12.2, hmmm i don't know and i don't know how to enable them :P [01:02] brb [01:02] fire|bird, nope, no postscript [01:03] postscript printers are nice because you can just pipe the output of pdf2ps to the printer and it will print (most lasers support it) [01:03] TwinReverb:i think i have to add myself to the group that lets me use usb ? i just installed slackware and the only group i added myself to was audio and i don't have much experience knowing what groups i am suppose to add my self to [01:03] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] sorry for my noobish question just installed slackware today [01:10] are you in the plugdev group? [01:11] sahko: no and i don't see that group in /etc/group [01:12] sahko: nvm i see that [01:12] i suggest you read the documents http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/ here. [01:13] sahko: thanks [01:14] you're welcome [01:15] edman007: Hmm, ok. I also have a Lexmark Z645 that works with linux, but I have yet to get it working. [01:15] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-247-133.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:16] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:16] ok anyone in here good with hardware? [01:17] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-247-133.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] sahko: thank you so much just adding myself to the plugdev group made it possible to mount my camera! :D [01:18] fire|bird, that printer should have postscript emulation [01:18] Dominian, :D [01:19] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-247-133.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:20] edman007: k8n neo4.. pci-e slot for the vid card wednt bad [01:20] morning folks [01:20] from what I"m seeing.. I can't find a comparable model as it appears they don't sell them anymore [01:20] edman007: at this point.. I'm trying to find a decent price on a amd quad-core board, cpu, and 2GB of ram .. [01:20] unfortunately, with hardware, I suck [01:20] looking for some decent recommendations [01:21] Dominian, well i would recommend intel, only because its better for anything mid range and up [01:21] hrm [01:21] I haven't used anything intel in forever [01:22] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:22] but for a new AMD, get something with an AM3 socket [01:22] right.. that part I know [01:22] I'm not not sure what board to get etc [01:22] depends on what you need [01:22] edman007: Hmm, ok, now if I could just get it installed and working. :P [01:22] morning dive, how's it going? [01:23] stick with the brand names and just sort by ratings and featurers [01:23] fire|bird, hi, been up playing with xdm, hows yourself? [01:23] dive: doing great, thanks. [01:23] k [01:24] Action: Dominian heads to newegg [01:24] Action: fire|bird wonders if there's an oldegg. :P [01:24] fire|bird, you should be able to plug it in, find the lp device (/dev/usb/lp0 usually) and then just do `pdf2ps /path/to/file.pdf > /dev/usb/lp0` [01:24] with any luck it will print [01:25] thats why i say its important to check the PDF, all those settings in the driver are mostly contained in the PDF [01:25] edman007: I'm hoping the new cpu.. if I get it.. supports hardware virtualization [01:25] it will [01:25] edman007: alright, I had read somewhere that it uses the z600 driver, but I just couldn't get it working, it's not connected right now, but I'll give that a try. [01:25] fire|bird, if you can get postscript emulation you can just set the cups driver to "generic postscript" [01:26] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:26] but that usually means you don't get all the fancy ink controls [01:26] edman007: oh the other kicker.. I have to find an ATX board that will support more than 2 ATA devices [01:26] eww [01:27] might have to add a controller card [01:27] edman007: my two main drives are PATA.. plus my dvd burner [01:27] haven't seen a mb with more than 1 ata slot in awhile [01:27] twolf: eithe rthat or purchase a SATA drive that I can put the main system on [01:27] edman007: ok, I don't really use the fancy ink controls anyway. [01:27] I just don't wnana go over board [01:28] However, if you had to choose between the AMD phenom quad-core and the intel which would you go with? [01:28] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:28] the amd motherboards are alot cheaper so you save a lot of money going that route [01:28] Action: edman007 has a 100% SATA system [01:29] twolf: that's what I was looking at [01:29] Action: linux_probe is using ide rom drives still [01:29] and I've always used amd.. at least for the past few years I have [01:29] no sense in replacing what works [01:29] Dominian, http://tinyurl.com/m4meov [01:29] I can't tell a difference in a amd quad vs intel, but my senses are merely mortal [01:29] well.. the only thing keeping me from finding someting similar.. the board I have no has no on-board video.. so the pci-e slot fo rthe video card goes bad.. I'm hosted [01:30] er.. hosed [01:30] Action: edman007 wonders how Dominian cooked it [01:30] edman007: no idea.. I rma'd the video card.. it was an evga 8600.. they sent me back a brand new 8800 [01:30] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] plugged it in.. got the same damn error.. pulled the card out.. bios yells at me.. but the box boots and works. [01:30] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:30] so its gotta be the board [01:31] well...the i7 is really really fscking fast... [01:31] buy it, even the slowest one, if you can afford it [01:31] hrm.. dunno.. [01:31] its going to be faster than the fastest amd [01:32] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:33] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [01:35] bah I hate looking for new hardware [01:36] resistance is futile, prepare to be assimilated [01:36] even though the i7 may be faster [01:36] The boards/cpus are too damn expensive [01:37] and I don't need ultra fast [01:37] anything iwll be faster than the 3800+ I have right now [01:37] i recently rebuilt a machine with an core2 quad Q8400 [01:37] any of them are bound to be a lot faster than what you have [01:37] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:37] granted everything else i had plugged direct into the new mobo/cpu :) [01:38] THe other gotcha I can think of.. I only have a 450W SU [01:38] er.. PSU [01:39] wait, and you have an 8800? i thought nvidia requires a 550W for that.... [01:39] maybe its only the GTX or something... [01:39] edman007: I had an 8600 [01:39] rma'd it [01:39] $293 was a worthy upgrade, froma dying mobo and pentium D830 [01:39] they sent me an 8800 [01:39] edman007: that's y problem.. I can't go splurging for a new mobo, cpu, mem, AND a PSU.. [01:39] that would just suck [01:40] Dominian, well you need to melt some plastic... [01:40] lol [01:41] edman007: I've already melted some plastic fixing my wife's car... [01:41] do you really need a car? [01:41] take a bike [01:41] whn you live 20+ miles from work you do [01:42] edman007: what twolf said [01:42] actualy instead of replacing the board, cpu, and mem... [01:42] nonsense, 20+ miles is doable with a bike [01:43] let me see if I can find an am2 board.. a sata drive and ram [01:43] that would be cheaper [01:43] in 100F+ temps, hardly [01:43] Dominian, what temp is it over there? [01:43] but the board I get will support am2/am2+/am3 [01:43] edman007: 90's [01:43] with like 70% humidty [01:43] ahh, so twolf is wrong [01:43] I would be dead before I made the 10th mile [01:43] you will be fine [01:43] just a little sweaty when you come into work [01:44] do you really want to have to ride 20+ miles home after slogging it out at work? [01:44] nope [01:44] dive, Dominian does, well if he wants a working computer anyways [01:45] oh.. I can stil use credit [01:45] I just need to get a decent board and cpu for a good pric [01:45] e [01:46] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [01:47] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [01:49] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:55] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "time for a little snoozles...." [01:58] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-81-66.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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I guess that's ok hehe [02:31] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] Dominian, abuse the ok, time to get an IA64 system [02:41] why? [02:41] those are expensive [02:41] edman007: haha [02:41] edman007: I have some stuff picked.. [02:42] superGear, but he got ok, "to get whatever I needed " [02:42] just not sure if a 450W PSU will work.. [02:42] s/ok/an ok/ [02:42] edman007: 'within reason' [02:42] NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo [02:42] 1000W [02:43] i think you should go for a dual socket i7, are those out yet? [02:43] haha [02:43] letme pastebin the hardware I'm looking at righ tnow [02:44] oh, they are, i see apple is selling them [02:44] edman007: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/5KLgKC79.html [02:45] but only with the quad core i7...the 6 core i7 is out, so you should get that [02:46] come on.. just need some opinions n that hardware :P [02:46] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.203.123) joined ##slackware. [02:46] Dominian, don't waste your money on 1GB sticks, get a 2x 2GB pack [02:47] otherwise, great [02:47] Nick change: repsol_ -> adrenaline [02:47] hrm [02:47] edman007: now.. couple those with a nvidia 8800 card.. do you think a 450w PSU will do? [02:47] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-49.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:48] what brand? [02:48] ASUS I think is the PSU brand [02:48] and you can cut the new drive to save some money [02:48] Wilblake (n=matheus@unaffiliated/wilblake) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:48] can't [02:48] edman007: I have two ide drives right now plus my ide dvd-rw [02:48] and that board only does 2 ide devices [02:49] ok..well, it will probably work with a 450W psu [02:50] but i think its going to come too close to be safe, you could easily pull an actual 300W [02:51] yah [02:51] ok for ram.. is G.Skill any good? [02:51] re [02:51] yea, thats good [02:52] edman007: I'm looking at a 2 x 2GB for 74.99 [02:52] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:52] so.. why not [02:52] lol [02:52] get that :D [02:52] unless you can find it cheaper... [02:53] nah [02:53] not worried [02:53] that's the cheapeast I can find in that setup [02:53] now... [02:53] a PSU [02:54] edman007: I was wrong.. I have an Antec in my box righ tnow [02:54] ohh, antec is good [02:55] oh man, this is expensive, but i want it, two of em -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115044 [02:55] yeah I like antec [02:55] but with this 8800.. new quad core processor etc.. [02:55] antec make decent cases, shitty fans [02:55] might as well upgrade the PSU [02:56] edman007: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015 [02:56] Dominian, that would be great [02:56] they make okay psu. i prefer corsair tho [02:57] talking about hardware: http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww330/karl-moik/Lols/sata.jpg [02:57] i got an enermax galaxy [02:57] I've used antec for a long time [02:57] 750W :D [02:57] morning! [02:57] Dominian, rofl [02:57] epaphus (n=unix3@201.199.62.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:57] err dive [02:57] Camarade_Tux, not morning for meeee [02:57] afternoon :) [02:58] hey Camarade_Tux [02:58] damn.. everything is free shipping except the PSU [02:58] that figures [02:58] hihi [02:59] edman007: ya know, I slept less than four hours [02:59] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:59] hey fire|bird :) [02:59] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [03:00] Camarade_Tux: how's it going? [03:00] morning Camarade_Tux [03:00] spook: After more looking/searching, it is the heatsink fan for the cpu that doesn't work. :( [03:01] fire|bird, I thought it was the other one? Or both? [03:01] dive: it's just one, but now I discovered that it is indeed the heatsink fan for the cpu. :( [03:02] Dominian, i had to pay for shipping to RMA my 750W PSU... [03:02] fire|bird: fine, thanks, you? [03:03] clocked in at 12 pounds..UPS raped me, even for 5 day [03:03] Action: Camarade_Tux had better hurry too [03:03] Camarade_Tux: doing great, thanks. [03:03] and enermax is in cali, so it took all of the 5 days to ship [03:04] dive: so, who know,s the CPU is probably half fried. :/ [03:04] s/know,s/knows/ [03:04] fire|bird, perhaps the bios has an auto shutoff feature and that's what caused it to lock [03:04] if it goes at all from a cold boot it's probably fine [03:05] dive: Well, it's not going at all now. :( [03:05] maybe take heatsink out and replace compund [03:05] could be dead then [03:05] I hope it has an auto shutoff or this could really suck. [03:06] dive: yeah, could easily be dead. I'll sure get some experience working on a laptop. :P [03:06] edman007: I had to pay to rma my evga card [03:07] edman007: but I got an "upgrade" back.. so I can't complain [03:08] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.203.123) left irc: "Leaving" [03:08] edman007: I hate newegg sometimes... [03:08] you hit "continue" and it hangs... [03:09] Dominian, i lost the box, so i rma'd to enermax, fscking slow [03:09] hehe [03:10] Dominian, took them over a week to decide it was broken, and then another week for it to get shipped back [03:10] ouch [03:10] newegg does 3-day for everything and they don't really care if its broken, they just accept it [03:12] yah [03:13] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:19] chess: the command line options link on the sbopkg front page is broken. it links to http://www.sbopkg.org/files/sbopkg-options.txt while it should be http://www.sbopkg.org/docs/sbopkg-options.txt [03:23] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:24] gah.. I hate it when you order on newegg and it doesn't show up in the recent orders yet... 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[07:13] I have an IBM p4 1.6 GHz that went black. the cpu gets hot; i've tried several different mem stacks and agp cards, and still black. when i pull the mem stick there are no POST codes at all. the power supply seems fine...any ideas before i have the box crushed? [07:15] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:15] and i tried a different speaker, too [07:16] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [07:16] try another psu? [07:16] i was thinking that that might help. ok i will [07:18] w00t, pirates on the baltic sea [07:19] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [07:21] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:25] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:30] cmair (n=cmair@host54-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:32] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:33] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431640.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431640.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:35] you know that propritary 4 prong connector comming from the psu? is that required for operation? [07:36] How do I cancel a print job coming from Firefox? Every time I start it, it wants to print a file, with no working printer. [07:37] i think i have a Dell psu around here somewhere that has the 4-prong plug [07:38] use 'top' to find and kill the process? [07:38] 'htop' is even better [07:39] t0f, for killing the print job. Don't think that will work. I need to permanently stop Firefox from trying to print the file. [07:40] There has to be a queue that I can cancel? [07:40] sounds like a Fx setup issue, then [07:40] My printer is disconnected, because it isn't working. [07:41] So it keeps asking for the printer. [07:41] remove the printer from the system [07:41] could be a kde queue setup. i can't help there as i have never had a printer. well, not since 1992 [07:41] Ok. That hopefully will work. [07:41] Shingoshi, did you set it up through CUPS? [07:42] Thanks. No. I used the HP manager. [07:42] I'll take care of it now. [07:42] can you remove the HP manager? [07:43] Don't want to do that. Just the printer should do instead. [07:43] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:43] i turned off the HP manager [07:45] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-145-4.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:45] in xfce it's in the settings, somewhere [07:45] I just removed the printer. I'll see now if that works. Restarting Firefox now. [07:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:45] or open the manager (whatever that interface is) and disable/remove the printer [07:45] that will work, Shingoshi [07:45] if you removed the printer, you should have np [07:47] LinuxEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:48] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:49] The damn thing popped up again, asking for another printer! This is crazy! [07:50] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [07:51] This wouldn't be such a problem, if it weren't for the fact it stops some of my tabs from opening. [07:53] sounds like the hp manager is in your way [07:54] Shing, what does lpq say? [07:54] Every time I start Firefox, the print job stops my tabs from opening on each link. So I have to load them manually. [07:54] I get the dialog box every time I start Firefox, wanting to print the job. [07:55] whut duz lpq say [07:55] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [07:55] Shingoshi, are you using KDE? [07:55] KDE! [07:56] go to control center > peripherals > printers (iirc) [07:56] There's no more printers besides one on another machine which is also disconnected. [07:57] hoobop: is there any good reason to have the HP manager load upon startup? [07:57] KDE4. systemsettings [07:57] remove all printers that aren't active at the moment? [07:57] i would try that [07:57] HP manager doesn't start on KDE start. [07:58] oh? ok [07:58] but it sounds like you have a bunch of 'jobs' on que [07:58] clear those [07:58] that might do the trick [07:59] I've tried to clear the jobs. And they keep coming back. Damn zombies!! [07:59] printing problems... lol... man, it's like time travel to 1997... [07:59] what a pita [08:00] What's a pita, is paying for a new laser cartridge, and the printer doesn't work! [08:00] Now, that's a PITA [08:00] Shingoshi, all i can think of is to remove all non-functioning printers... [08:00] lmao [08:00] yes, that is [08:00] I'll have to work this out. I forgot how I loaded the other printer. [08:01] does this happen only with FF? [08:01] do you have other browsers installed? [08:01] searching the systemsettings for printer turns up nothing. [08:01] Yeah. But I use Firefox for my research work. [08:01] couldn't he just 'sudo rm * /var/spool/atspool' ? [08:03] or 'sudo rm /var/spool/atspool/*' ? [08:03] There's nothing in /var/spool/atspool [08:03] ah [08:03] ls -a /var/spool/atspool == 0 [08:04] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-18-254.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:05] I'm going back to bed. 05:05 in the morning here. I need sleep, whether my body wants it or not! [08:05] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-234.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:05] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [08:05] night or morning [08:06] hopefully your bed won't kick you out with a "do you want to send these sheets to the printer" message [08:07] lol [08:07] "print user to file' [08:07] Oh shit!! [08:07] ?? [08:07] ROFLMAO!! [08:08] you found the problem? [08:08] g'nite! [08:08] gn [08:12] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-212-060.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [08:15] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-12-231.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [08:16] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:20] vald0r (n=matt@stjhnf0131w-142162013032.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:23] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A774ED.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:24] morning [08:25] Good Morning [08:25] no, it isnt [08:25] Whys that? [08:26] crapppy weather and I got a headache [08:27] it's rainy here too [08:28] Shitty, I just pulled an all nighter coding as I can't sleep, been like that all week for some strange reason. so i just live in the realm of illusion. similar to how fucked up the guys vision was on flight club. On a plus side I finished updating some patches for DWM. [08:28] fight club* [08:29] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:29] good movie [08:29] fight club was good as well [08:29] It was indeed [08:29] The female actor in flight club was hot tho [08:30] Yep [08:30] i'll bet that's why i'm not so grey. i stopped coding in 1994 [08:30] vald0r, whats DWM? [08:31] haha im as pale as a ghost. and im into the habit of sleeping 5-6 hours. but its from like 10AM to 8pm when i finally have crashed [08:31] http://dwm.suckless.org/ [08:31] ah, I see [08:33] damn August 2nd! i want my summer back [08:33] feels like spring today [08:33] or, heaven forbit, fall [08:34] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.10) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Its great when you get used to the concepts of tile based wm's. people waste time organizing floating windows which over lap each other and get in the way. here everythings open and organized. like a desk that doesnt let paper stack on each other. But you keep the windows grouped by Tabs. so you can have one for programming. one for IM one for web and so forth. thats basicly the jist [08:35] looks like a good deal [08:35] man, I can't seem to motivate meself lately. there is a lot of stuff I should be doing but I can't bring myself to it. After work Im too tired and on the weekends I just hang [08:35] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] What do you work at? [08:35] vald0r, I know tiling wm's, they just arent for me [08:36] vald0r, small software shop. I do customer support, admin the DB, and maintain the CRM software. [08:36] v4nelle (n=van@78-51-196.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:37] i prefer WMs with multiple virtual desktops with active screen borders that wrap around then with a bump of the cursor on either the left or right screen edge and you get another desktop [08:37] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:37] its not a bad job, really. Its a two hours commute and that is getting on my nerves [08:37] argh, a ghost! :o [08:37] y0 Pig_Pen, Camarade_Tux [08:37] I do all network infastructure server support for 5 locations. But he'll id never to software programming for a living. if it wasn't just a hobby id prob hate it. [08:37] hell* [08:38] depends [08:38] we've got exactly one coder and he can pretty much do anything he wants [08:38] I only really have to move if somethings physically failing and I cant monitor it from my office [08:38] cool [08:39] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [08:39] Random question. as my train of thought is haywire. did anyone here play MuD's before? [08:40] I really wish I had some job were I could work by remote. Id sling a satelite dish on some old WV bus and roam around the middle sea while doing home office stuff via satelite [08:40] vald0r, yeah, back in the days of yonder [08:41] Hi slackytude vald0r Camarade_Tux [08:41] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:41] i did not know a VW bus was seaworthy [08:42] ?? [08:42] fredoslack, morning [08:42] Pig_Pen, I knew someone was gonna say it [08:42] i'm waiting for KDE 4.3 :( [08:42] right after I wrote it [08:43] vald0r, whut? [08:43] Oh just wondering about the VM bus statement [08:44] semantic nazis [08:44] yoyo slackytude :) [08:44] yo fredoslack [08:45] cmair (n=cmair@host54-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:45] slackytude: i was just hopeing you get a better craft, i dont want to see you shipwrecked ;p [08:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:47] Pig_Pen, how thoughtful ^-^. maybe I should limit myself to just driving along the coast of the middle sea. lots of nice places there, still [08:47] lots of big ugly hotels as well, sadly [08:48] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:49] i would love to buy a big ugly hotel [08:49] what for? [08:50] really, what for? [08:50] stock it with hookers and a casino [08:50] and lots of booze [08:50] good petit déjeuner >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/xcache4.gif [08:50] lool [08:51] Pig_Pen, sounds like Las vegas [08:51] pistao (n=PISTAO@201-66-206-192.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Breakfast * [08:53] yabadabadabaduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu [08:56] las vegas on the beach side, with sand & surf [08:57] eh, not my thing. sounds like profit, tho [09:00] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [09:01] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [09:03] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.231.75.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:10] hmm [09:10] emailed patrick asking for CONFIG_TIMER_STATS=y in his kernel configs so PowerTop can do its job, he responds that we don't need CONFIG_NO_HZ (i.e. "tickless") [09:11] which has almost nothing to do with what i asked for (CONFIG_TIMER_STATS=y is just the per-process info on power consumption) [09:11] i emailed him back explaining, but oh well [09:12] basically the difference between a kernel without it and with is that without it you don't see (for example) how much of a power hog / wake-up whore that firefox is [09:12] with it, you do [09:12] If that's the only benefit to it.. why turn it on? [09:12] v4nelle (n=van@78-51-196.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:13] it's like saying why run "top" if you don't see per-process information [09:13] which is exactly my point: would you run "top" without per-process info? no. powertop is very useful. [09:13] That's great. [09:13] but apparent PV doesn't agree [09:13] i got like an extra 15-30 minutes out of my battery using its good information and by not running firefox unless absolutely necessary [09:13] I don't understand; powertop runs here and shows me wake statistics. what's the difference? [09:14] PV was confused [09:15] if the only thing it showed me was "hey enable CONFIG_NO_HZ" i wouldn't need it, nor would anyone else [09:16] don't knock a tool just because you don't see its usefulness [09:16] I prefer a NO_HZ kernel, myself :> [09:16] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/powertop.jpg [09:16] well i do too but i didn't ask for NO_HZ because it might annoy some machines [09:16] TwinReverb: Frankly, at this point, its sounds like your bitching at us about PV telling you "no" and from what I can tell, no one really cares. [09:16] i asked for stats [09:16] Patrick where are you :} [09:17] if you think i am complaining then you are not paying attention to what i said or have misunderstood me [09:17] ogex (n=ogex@202.152.22.50) joined ##slackware. [09:17] (and if no one really cared no one would've responded) [09:18] put away your trump cards and play poker like a gentleman 8-) [09:18] Maybe in the aspect of "caring" they responded out of annoyance. [09:19] you can't assume that this is the case because you have not asked [09:19] you're assuming everyone thinks and feels how you do, which is just silly [09:20] g'night [09:20] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:21] NO_HZ and cpufreq are annoying [09:22] not for laptops [09:23] On laptops you can just about justify them [09:23] well you can justify NO_HZ [09:23] 100Hz kernel :D [09:23] but there should be BIOS underclock options [09:24] why? then I can't scale it [09:24] bah, underclocking is bad for battery life now [09:24] Camarade_Tux, is it? :S [09:24] NthDegree: yep [09:24] even with undervolting too? [09:24] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-79-037.vntc.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:25] NthDegree: it takes more time to process something but doesn't spare enough power to compensate for the additional time [09:25] if I keep my CPU at 2.0ghz across each core, it definitely gets worse battery life than if I drop it down to 800mhz on each [09:25] NthDegree: undervolting should do it [09:25] NthDegree: you mean it shouldn't be possible to adjust cpu clock on demand while running? [09:25] but I guess laptop processors are already lowly-powered [09:25] Camarade_Tux: nope, that's why "ondemand" is the best fit, usually. it adjusts in real-time [09:25] rg3, depends on the use [09:26] thrice`: yes, that's what I use, except that ... [09:26] I put my lappy on powersave [09:26] TSC is a cheap timing source [09:26] which is why the BIOS option really isn't viable [09:26] Action: fredoslack love ubuntu :( [09:26] ... on an atom, the performance governor saves more power than the ondemand one [09:26] it costs to use other timing sources [09:26] Cynthia^ (i=iiii@41.236.13.252) left irc: No route to host [09:26] Action: Camarade_Tux gets the chainsaw [09:27] fredoslack: hold still, don't move :) [09:27] lol [09:27] Camarade_Tux, i'm aiting for KDE 4.3 :p :p [09:27] waiting *+ [09:27] Camarade_Tux: maybe on an atom, but not on _my_ laptop, or many other laptops i've used in the past [09:27] fredoslack: won't be before 13.1 at least [09:27] rg3: yeah, same here ;) [09:27] :'(( [09:28] Camarade_Tux, you mean slack 13 = KDE 4.2.4 ? :( [09:28] fredoslack: kde 4.3 needs policykit which is a *big* change [09:28] ah yes i haved forget [09:28] j'avais oublié * [09:28] I'd guess it'll be 4.2.x [09:28] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-79-037.vntc.ru) left ##slackware. [09:29] fredoslack: "I had forgotten" ;) [09:29] or I forgot [09:29] i had forgotten * [09:29] poor of me :( [09:29] s/of // [09:29] :D [09:29] your english is way beter than my french [09:29] and I'm not sure "me" is correct [09:30] slackytude, tu me rassures lool merci lool [09:30] fredoslack, no problemo [09:31] well, 3h31 pm at home [09:31] apero time lol [09:31] :) [09:31] tchin ! [09:35] apero? [09:35] slackytude: alcohol [09:36] apero time is basically at any time between 1pm and 4am :D [09:37] ogex (n=ogex@202.152.22.50) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:38] I see [09:39] actually apero is drinking alcohol before something, and "something" can be anything: lunch, dinner, party... [09:40] lol [09:41] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Patrick where are you, my Boss <3 [09:43] Camarade_Tux, school [09:43] hmmmm [09:43] bah. i am so dependent on linux, now. just installed win7 and am crippled without cygwin being able to run. [09:43] you'd rather take the apero before a party, go to the party and drink and go to school just after ;) [09:44] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:44] dartmouth, learn powershell ^-^ [09:44] well, why did you install win7? O.o [09:44] dartmouth: win7 64? [09:45] dartmouth: also, check autohotkey.com, it's a very nice scripting language perfectly suited for windows [09:45] (imho) [09:48] win7 is nice. but Im too far on the dark side to even consider buying it [09:48] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:48] and by dark side I mean linux [09:49] Close those windows soldier; you're letting the hackers in! [09:49] lol windoze is the dark side in a gay suite [09:49] slackytude, it will be the last time there's a remotely good Windows apparently [09:49] s/gay suite/rainbow gay suite/ [09:49] if the rumours are true [09:49] NthDegree, why? [09:50] Midori is said to be used for Windows 8 [09:50] Midori being made from Singularity [09:50] which uses a C# kernel :P [09:50] tbagg (n=tom@ool-182dbb2d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] that doesnt mean its gonna be bad [09:50] it's maybe gonna crash less and be more secure [09:50] slackytude, imagine Linux being written in Java [09:51] NthDegree, not the same [09:51] we should rewrite everything in ocaml -_- [09:51] would be safer and not slower -_- [09:51] but you need a CPU who could run C# natively [09:52] slackytude, not intended to [09:52] otherwise there would be quite a large overhead [09:52] It's intended to run with a lightweight VM below it [09:52] hence what I said [09:52] sounds good [09:52] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:52] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] but I'll wait and see [09:53] I wouldn't be surprised ms could do a good, light and fast vm/jit/whatever for C# [09:53] slackytude, well Singularity is free to download :P [09:53] maybe by the time its ready everything will be in the cloud [09:53] Camarade_Tux, they always did for Java, until Sun strongarmed :P [09:53] slackytude, it's intended to decouple software from the PC itself - in an era where everyone rents server space :P [09:54] jnylin (n=jnylin@c-5f72e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [09:54] personaly Im looking forward to google wave, that looks interesting and is supposed to be out this year [09:54] cloud sucks :) [09:54] When "buying" software really means renting space for a year, i'll give every company the middle finger and run old stuff ^_^ [09:54] that might give ms trouble with their exchange server stuf [09:57] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:57] everybody will be happy in the cloud and after a few days/weeks/months/years, there will be a problem and everybody will cry [09:58] just an example... [09:58] join #foobar [09:58] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl16-252.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:58] Camarade_Tux, and google wave is not in the cloud [09:59] LinuxEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:00] tbagg (n=tom@ool-182dbb2d.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final by panasync" [10:01] Hi all. [10:01] Has anybody used 'slackmenu', available on Slacky? [10:01] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:02] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:03] no [10:03] slackmenu ? [10:03] pkgtools for konqueror [10:04] hello everyone :) [10:04] Hello Lord_Khelben :) [10:05] jkr (n=jkr@ti0017a380-0412.bb.online.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:05] greetings Lord_Khelben [10:06] i read the new updates in -current yesterday and there was an update for shadow. i have always wondered why is shadow-4.0.3 still used ? are > 4.0.3 versions PAM only or something ? [10:06] I found it interesting and installed it. Now I don't see it doing what the description promisses... [10:07] Lord_Khelben: don't know, but it's definitely not related to Pam [10:07] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl9-245-110.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [10:07] Maybe I just don't know how to use it... [10:07] thrice`: thanks for answering [10:07] i was just curious [10:08] i have the impression that there was a discussion in the slack 8.0 time but i may be wrong. i cant remember (and there are even major releases since there) [10:12] brb [10:12] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:12] yuck pam [10:13] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:13] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:14] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A774ED.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:16] many update [10:16] :} [10:16] >> ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [10:17] 4 packages? [10:17] but nothing about kde 4.3 snif lool [10:17] 4.3 isn't even release yet [10:17] :( [10:17] released* [10:18] do you just want it because it has a bigger number? [10:18] no [10:18] fredoslack: again, you won't see 4.3 any time soon [10:18] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [10:18] Camarade_Tux, 2010 so ? :p [10:18] SuperMiguel (n=miguel@cpe-173-169-39-45.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:19] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A774ED.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] thrice`, it will be a good release i thikn :) [10:19] think [10:19] 4.2.4 isn't? [10:19] like 3.5 :} [10:20] you can compile one by yourself [10:20] thrice`, i love 4.2.4 [10:20] i did it partially [10:20] but i m' waiting for 4.3 :} [10:20] 4.3 is out and there is and app for comppiling it [10:20] 4.0 << awfull lool [10:21] an app* [10:21] 4.2 great :} [10:21] cause it's hard to compile it by yourself while not being a kde developer [10:21] :( [10:21] 4.3 is not out yet [10:21] like it is [10:21] ftp://kde.mirrors.tds.net/pub/kde/stable/ [10:22] please, show me [10:22] rc3 [10:22] O.o [10:22] communyty release for 2 days [10:22] winterx, >> kubuntu :) [10:22] fredoslack: BOOOOOOOOOO, shame on you [10:22] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl10-182-197.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:23] but beetween ubuntu and kubuntu ... [10:23] i prefer ubuntu lol [10:23] but i had a problem with building some of components [10:24] winterx, errors with compilation ? [10:24] rc3, also, is not 4.3 [10:24] 4.3 rc3 [10:25] thats like saying 4.2.901 [10:25] almost 4.3 :p [10:25] noopo, 4.3 concept but not finalized [10:26] they'll wait for Win 7 to be released [10:26] then release 4.3 [10:26] why? [10:27] superGear: so .. Windows 7 is going to be released in the next week? [10:27] 7 isn't beautiful houuu [10:27] it's GHEY [10:27] BP{k}, yes RPM i think [10:27] 4.0 was dev, 4.1 was something, 4.2 is user release [10:27] win 7 loosk nice [10:27] 4.3 is ? [10:28] superGear, great <<3 <3 <3 <3 [10:28] fredoslack, how can you say it's great? [10:28] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] it's like saying Windows 8 is great! [10:28] superGear, i expect :p [10:28] as for KDE 4.3 this is their planned release schedule: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule [10:28] superGear windows 9 is better [10:29] I never go by schedules as they usually get broken [10:29] not usually [10:29] i will need stay here 10 years [10:29] for learning english [10:29] :( [10:30] net ho: http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/hgnet.jpg [10:30] gnubien, is that you? [10:31] slackytude: nope [10:31] nice hat [10:31] it's an unbuntu user [10:31] dont be shy [10:31] slackytude: me not shy [10:31] isn't that thrice` [10:32] win7, visually, looks very much like vista to me. the task bar looks a bit nicer, thats about the only difference i can see. [10:33] yes windows 7 is just Vista [10:33] probably be worse [10:33] faster, lighter and more buggy [10:33] you are full of fud [10:33] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.210) joined ##slackware. [10:33] had bsod after 15 minutes of usage of rc [10:34] they probably kept the same ui but changed some of the background [10:34] yeh, rc will tell you how RTM/Final will be [10:34] bsod? [10:34] bsod. [10:34] Blue Screen of Death [10:34] oh dear [10:34] I have never gotten a BSOD on 7 beta/RC [10:35] or Vista [10:35] lucker [10:35] HDDs haven't had issues [10:35] I don't know one company that switched to vista. Wonder if any will with win7. [10:35] and I don't have bad ram [10:35] me also [10:35] there were some people having problems with the win7 rc [10:35] and you don't read spam [10:35] edman007: ping. you around? [10:35] they will, cause XP is unmaintained [10:35] I dislike the explorer in win7 [10:36] Explorer is fine [10:36] not for me [10:36] i dislakie ie in enything [10:36] you can get it to be pretty much like the older explorer [10:36] not ie, file explorer [10:36] I want the Euro version of 7 [10:36] tc is much better [10:36] no IE [10:36] hmm. i doubt i'll switch. unless it can run on a 1.6 with 380mb of ram ;p [10:37] yesyes, RAM is cheap ;P [10:37] xp4lyfe [10:37] superGear: YOu have the option to "uninstall" IE in all the 7 versions [10:37] yesyes, its supposed too [10:37] LSD`, you mean, hide [10:37] i've herd that there are alternative shells for windows than explorer [10:37] s/too/to [10:37] winterx, dolphin ^-^ [10:37] Action: yesyes has never looked into upgrading the ram on his lappy [10:37] even native shells [10:37] _shells_ [10:38] superGear: It gets rid of the UI, but leaves the rendering engine behind (because things would break otherise) [10:38] Power Shell 2 [10:38] seashells? [10:38] oh, i had that for a while. [10:38] ghh [10:38] i think the horror that is sqlserver forces it upon you. [10:39] hm? [10:39] I haven't taken them up on it yet because IE just doesn't bother me enough (and the tiny bit of space it'd free up is insignificant on my 320GB drive) to go to the trouble [10:39] anyway, my xp is soo h4x0r3d [10:39] format XP drive [10:40] right i can't sit in front of my pc allday. time to venture outside, out into bleak, bleak london town. [10:40] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] i did that h4x0r1ng [10:40] yesyes: lond's calling? [10:40] the thought that i won't have breathed fresh air today if i don't calls mostly. [10:41] is London foggy and dreary like in those Jack the Ripper movies [10:41] Time for bed LSD` [10:41] i have windows xp black edition! it had a pirate blackground on init. [10:41] yesyes: and unlocked multipliers? [10:41] Pig_Pen: hah, there's not that much fog. [10:42] LSD`, XP pirate Edition not an Athlon [10:42] /join ##slackware [10:42] oh, I'm already there, I thought I was in #windows [10:42] somebody started regarding w7 -_- [10:42] heh [10:42] Camarade_Tux, they are talking about linux in ##windows [10:43] ##windows always talks about linux [10:43] rarely about windows [10:43] Action: slackytude nods [10:43] slackytude: I think somebody messed up with the polarity of the world [10:43] unless hentai is there [10:43] Camarade_Tux: you were in that evil chatroom full of windows zombies? [10:43] infidels [10:43] Camarade_Tux, do you have a goatee now? [10:44] slackytude: no ='( [10:44] Pig_Pen: no [10:44] must be still the right universe then [10:44] slackytude: hentai? where? :D [10:44] Camarade_Tux, the nick of an op in ##windows [10:44] SuperMiguel (n=miguel@cpe-173-169-39-45.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:44] Camarade_Tux, who bans all talk not about windows [10:44] iluminator101 (n=iluminat@ool-4578d704.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Camarade_Tux has goatse.cx [10:45] slackytude: lol [10:45] superGear: how did you found out? :P [10:45] there is usually nice OT tlak in #windows unless hentai wakes up and enforces channel rules with an iron fist [10:45] my picture >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0014.gif [10:45] lol [10:46] fredoslack more like frogtongue :p [10:46] lool [10:47] SuperMiguel (n=miguel@cpe-173-169-39-45.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:47] capone, i've found you picture on the web [10:47] wait please :p [10:47] :-O [10:47] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.50) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [10:48] capone, >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Ordinateur/0004.gif [10:48] lool [10:48] Action: fredoslack love these yellow heads lol [10:49] yellow? you mean your display has more than 2bits? :o [10:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Camarade_Tux, do you mean my picture is bad ? :p [10:50] buffer (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [10:51] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.43) left irc: "Leaving." [10:51] fredoslack: nah, I'm only surprised your display is more than black and white xD [10:51] iluminator101 (n=iluminat@ool-4578d704.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [10:51] http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/08/02/us.gulf.war.remains/ [10:52] tbagg (n=tom@ool-182dbb2d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Camarade_Tux, in France we love wine [10:53] hi hi [10:53] >>> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/0005.gif [10:53] cbeyer (n=chatzill@74.83.226.164) joined ##slackware. [10:53] buffer (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [10:54] Check a little seriousness [10:54] sorry lol [10:56] Nick change: illuz1oN -> illuz [10:56] Nick change: illuz -> illuz1oN [10:57] nickserv identify illuzuz [10:57] O_o [10:57] change your pass [10:57] cbeyer (n=chatzill@74.83.226.164) left ##slackware. [10:58] nickserv identify pwnz0redxdxdxd [10:58] >_> [10:58] Bigtfishbone (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:00] sup guys ? [11:00] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-5-180.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:01] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-106-118.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Bigtfishbone (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [11:01] yah [11:01] i pwnt myself [11:01] xchat pwnt me [11:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:01] Channel flood from illuz1oN -- kicking [11:01] and sleep pwnt me [11:01] illuz1oN kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [11:01] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [11:01] and slackboy pwnt you too [11:01] hi slackboy :) [11:02] hi Pig_Pen :) [11:02] ho fredoslack [11:02] hi [11:02] i hate this keyboard, its too little [11:03] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:04] iou [11:04] lol [11:05] i would use that old PS2 keyboard but about half the keys dont work [11:05] Nick change: illuz1oN -> illuz_fail [11:08] Action: Lord_Khelben loves his natural ergonomic 4000 [11:08] Action: BP{k} prefers his #daskeyboard II' [11:08] Nick change: illuz_fail -> illuz1oN [11:08] i liked daskeyboard when i saw it but it was too expensive for a keybord with only feature unnamed keys [11:08] eh, weird [11:09] epaphus (n=unix3@201.199.62.74) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Das has mechanical switches, iirc [11:09] Lord_Khelben: agreed. But since my parents kinda wanted to buyit for me, who the heck am I to say no. ;-) [11:09] yes i had read that. they are supposedly superior quality [11:09] for all the time flash in opera wasnt working. then I tried to delete private data in opera and it crashed, had to kill -9 it, first time I had to to this and now flash works [11:09] even with the mechanical switches its still expensive [11:09] credo: yes, but still 70-80 USD is pretty hefty price for a keyboard. [11:10] http://geekhack.org/ --- forum about keyboards [11:10] Fellows or Cherry makes a decent keyboard and a bargain price [11:10] some of keys have washed off so in time my keyboard will eventually become daskeyboard :P [11:11] as long as the f and j keys have those bumps on em i can manage to type without looking [11:11] i'd love to get a maltron or kinesis ergonomic but i can't afford $250-350 for a keyboard :( [11:11] i don't look too but i don't touch type. i use 2-3 fingers on each hand not all five [11:11] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.60.244) joined ##slackware. [11:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.10) left irc: [11:13] i do make mistakes on occasion but this is a compact keyboard and all the keys are too close together which can cause typos [11:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.219) joined ##slackware. [11:13] I make typos even with the best keyboards ^-^ [11:13] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-41-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [11:14] its a skill [11:14] hehe everyone makes typos [11:14] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.219) left irc: Client Quit [11:14] even James Bond? [11:15] yes him too. only chuck norris doesn't [11:15] ah true [11:15] Lord_Khelben: damm you, I was seeing if I could work a chuck norris joke in there. ;) [11:15] he roundhouse kicks the keyboard and a perfect sentece is formed [11:15] hehe it was slackytude's fault. he passed me the ball :P [11:16] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-41-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Client Quit [11:16] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [11:16] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [11:21] http://imgur.com/Q23Id.jpg is that a carnival bumpercar that the cops have pulled over? [11:22] Yes, yes it is. [11:22] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.40) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Though I can't see how it would move without the conductive rail. [11:23] unless he put a battery in it somewhere [11:23] Not much space. [11:23] but dont those things run on 120 or 220 VAC? [11:23] Not sure. [11:23] I think 440 [11:23] Action: eviljames <- was a carnie :D [11:24] not really, but i played on tv [11:24] 440 is some hot juice [11:24] have you watched the sparks fly at an old bumper car place? [11:24] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-41-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [11:24] usually it seems like just going from square to square on their upper grid arcs all over the place [11:24] if the motor is DC current he might be able to pack a couple of car batteries in it and make a short drive before they go dead [11:25] Yes but an adult can barely sit in one of those, let alone when there's a couple of car batteries somewhere. [11:26] that's in the Netherlands. [11:26] Yes, I know. [11:26] reminds me of an old dutch commerical actually. [11:27] maybe it was being towed by that blue car [11:27] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:23b) joined ##slackware. [11:28] but i dont see a tow line [11:28] he had a mr. fusion [11:28] Yeah, and the officers look like they've been walking :) [11:28] maybe the guy on the bike was pushing it with his foot [11:28] Or Fred Flintstoning it. [11:29] maybe he put a regular engine in it [11:29] i think that is a police motorcycle [11:29] something small [11:29] lawnmower engine [11:29] aye [11:29] that would work [11:29] <|alisonken1churc> 2-stroke chainsaw motor [11:30] It is a police motorcycle and no it won't hold 3 officers :D [11:32] 2xfoot patrolmen +1 cyclist reenforcement :) [11:33] Nah, I'm pretty sure these men came from the blue Opel. [11:33] It's a typical police car. [11:33] SuN: perhaps you remember this commercial .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_b3A9acHa [11:34] weird police cars used to be opel here too :P (now they are citroen xsara) [11:34] BP{k}: not a valid URL for me. [11:35] The URL contained a malformed video ID. [11:36] sdrv (n=sdrv@e176092170.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:39] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_b3A9acHag [11:39] sorry, bad cut and paste. [11:39] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [11:40] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:40] SEATTLE ? A Seattle bank teller has lost his job because he ran down a would-be bank robber and held him until police arrived. [11:41] Nicholson says he tried to grab the man, then chased him several blocks before knocking him down with help from a passer-by. The man turned out to be unarmed. [11:41] The 30-year-old Nicholson was fired Thursday. [11:41] maybe it was an inside job, the bank manager hired some stooge to rob the place [11:41] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [11:42] http://www.bellinghamherald.com/590/story/1011999.html?storylink=omni_popular [11:42] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [11:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:44] BP{k}, heh, nice [11:44] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.158.244) joined ##slackware. [11:45] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] slackytude: That's just wrong. [11:45] greetings and salutations [11:45] agentc0re, I agree but I dont make the rules [11:45] wotcha andarius :) [11:45] y0 andarius [11:46] wotcha BP{k} ) [11:46] salutations slackytude [11:46] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:46] slackytude: I hate this presumptuous attitude that we should just sit around and let it happen.. WTF? [11:46] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [11:46] slackytude: It seams like the cops were against it and the FBI was against it... [11:46] agentc0re, well, thats probably good advice. [11:46] depends on the situation. if the robber is determined to get the money and doesn't value human life then "hero" stuff like that could have cost lifes [11:47] agentc0re, cops dont like people taking the law into their own hands [11:47] if cops had a say, people would have to sit indoors all day with their hands were you could see them [11:47] the cops/fbi reaction is logical. they discourage such actions officialy (unofficialy the may have shook his hand and told him well done :P) [11:48] There are a lot of what if's you can put into this situation. But it makes you wonder, if everyone wasn't so lack luster and always though "the cops will deal with it" maybe we wouldn't have much crime because anyone would stand up to idiots like that. [11:49] you are right. i don't blame the employee. i would probably have done the same thing. i get pissed when i am threatened [11:49] but i would be devastated if my actions could have killed people [11:49] that is why i don't blame the bank either [11:51] if i see a chance to to take down a criminal i will do it without hesitating, i can always get another job if my employer does not like it [11:51] But that's the thing, the outcome was that no one got hurt. And if you wanna play the game of "well someone could have got hurt" he can spit it back in their face "Well if he got away and went somewhere else he may have hurt someone in the future if allowed to continue because no one stood up to stop him". [11:52] yes of course. we can't know what would he do. he can kill 2 people in this bank and if he is not stopped he can kill 20 in the next robbery.but we don't know that, that is why the choice is difficult to make [11:53] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl10-182-197.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:53] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Trust me when i say i under stand situational awareness and when to pick my battles. However this man has been awarded a Job loss in times where getting a good job is even harder(in the states). [11:54] of course he shouldn't be fired [11:54] s/under stand/understand [11:55] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:55] yeah, if times werent like they are he'd a job in no time. these days its rather harsh [11:55] especially if you are a bank teller [11:55] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [11:55] number of banks is going down not up [11:56] Mubarak (n=mubarak@202.174.145.186) joined ##slackware. [11:56] of course, he may consider a change anyway, doesnt look like he is made to be a bank teller [11:56] Mubarak (n=mubarak@202.174.145.186) left ##slackware. [11:56] maybe stuntman or somethin [11:57] should become a cop [11:57] i want to be a cop [11:57] coz you like to taser people? [11:57] one of those cops that strips for money [11:58] ah [11:58] Oh you mean a gay guy? [11:58] heh [11:58] They fired the teller cause the bank could have been sued by the rbber if he got hurt [11:58] Action: andarius loves to tazer people [11:58] you show up like 'we got a call about the party' and then they're like 'is it too loud?' and you're like 'not loud enough!' and rip off your clothes [11:58] Thats why he should have killed the robber. [11:58] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [11:58] and then a bunch of horny middle aged women oogle you while you gyrate your dong [11:58] XGizzmo, he would be put into a federal prision for that [11:59] superGear: ... That's just stupid. [11:59] agentc0re, it has happened before tho [11:59] and the criminal wins their lawsuit [11:59] superGear: Ya because we live in a world of Idiocracy. [11:59] Nick change: shpendk -> traveler01 [11:59] crime pays sometimes i guess [11:59] that reminds me, I wanted to watch that movie [11:59] crime doesnt pay [12:00] slackytude: Please do. [12:00] as much as politics [12:00] the more you steal, the less chances being caught [12:00] agentc0re, what was the title again? [12:00] its called capitalism [12:00] slackytude: Idiocracy. :P [12:00] lol [12:00] grazymax (n=grazymax@host234-179-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:00] sahko, nah [12:00] slackytude: politics is just crime on a bigger scale ;-) [12:00] BP{k}++ [12:00] Ain't that the damn truth. [12:00] BP{k}, aye, bad part is you have to wear a tie [12:01] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:01] Nick change: traveler01 -> shpendk [12:01] hi techies i have a question does kernel 2.6.27.7 include e1000.ko ? [12:01] yes [12:02] and what about 2.6.21.5 ? [12:02] pistao (n=PISTAO@201-66-206-192.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:03] unpack a copy and see [12:03] it should, but I can't confirm that one. it's a pretty old ethernet driver [12:03] bnhashmi: i think the whole 2.6 kernel should, just depends on what chipsets were supported at what times.. [12:04] hum [12:04] thanx [12:04] bug [12:04] you can modinfo e1000 to see the differences as what was supported if you boot up two different kernels. [12:04] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] how i can compile a singe module for kernel i want to copy it to right place [12:05] lib/modules/$KERNEL_VERSION [12:05] maybe you should explain what you're actually doing [12:06] FATAL: Error inserting e1000 (/lib/modules/2.6.21.5-smp/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko): Invalid module format [12:06] bnhashmi: dmesg |tail [12:06] or, dmesg |grep format [12:06] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:07] bnhashmi: try "depmod -ae" [12:07] e1000: version magic '2.6.27.7-smp SMP mod_unload 686 ' should be '2.6.21.5-smp SMP mod_unload 686 ' [12:07] LOL ! [12:07] no, you can't insert modules from different kernel versions [12:08] thanks thrice`, I didn't know how to word it :D [12:08] Camarade_Tux: I think "wtf are you doing" is good too [12:08] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8D364.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:23b) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:09] how i can fix this ? [12:09] you'll have to get the 2.6.21.5 and import your .config run menuconfig then enable that modules and save & exit then build the module [12:09] thrice`: I would probably have said something along that :P [12:09] bnhashmi: reinstall the kernel modules package [12:09] how ? [12:09] bah, I wouldn't do that actually, far too many versions between [12:09] "upgradepkg --reinstall [12:10] better get the .27 slackware kernel and work from that [12:10] what the package name? [12:10] ffs, you are clueless [12:11] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:11] kernel-modules maybe [12:11] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: ".." 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[12:24] i messed up with my /boot [12:24] he's asking permission to rebuild his /boot [12:24] does reinstalling kernel packages will fix? [12:25] it amy and run lilo afterwards [12:25] ok [12:26] v4nelle (n=van@78-51-196.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:26] may* [12:27] actully i was trying to enable hugemem kernel and it stoped booting [12:28] not its not loading my eth modules [12:29] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:29] van (n=van@78-51-196.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:30] system is dell power edge SC 1435 [12:30] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:30] v4nelle (n=van@78-51-196.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Client Quit [12:30] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.60.244) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:31] Nick change: Ignacio_ -> nachox [12:32] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl10-182-197.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Nick change: shpendk -> unknown [12:32] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Nick change: unknown -> Mr [12:33] Mr (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: "Leaving" [12:33] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:34] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [12:34] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Client Quit [12:34] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Nick change: shpendk -> sucker666 [12:35] Nick change: sucker666 -> shpendk [12:35] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:35] mugwort13 (n=mugwort1@pool-96-244-137-76.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Hi all, quick question about fonts. I have already rebuilt the freetype build enabling byte-code interpreter & subpixel rendering. That helped to make things look better. However, I seem to still be having some problems with only some of the fonts. It is most apperent with chinese fonts (which I used often), but some english fonts still seem to be far more blurry than they ought to be ...well, IMHO anyway. Any adv [12:39] ice? [12:40] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.50) joined ##slackware. [12:40] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [12:40] is there a drag and drop html editor for linux? [12:40] I can't stand subpixel-rendering because it makes everything far too blurry [12:40] im not an html guy and i've gotta lay down some skeletons for my designers [12:40] dartmouth: what do you mean by "drag-and-drop" ? [12:40] oh [12:40] camarade like kolourpaint for html [12:40] Action: slackytude is too blind to see much differences in fotns [12:40] fonts [12:41] slackytude: hurts my eyes [12:41] slackytude: tiring after a few minutes [12:41] dartmouth: nvu? [12:41] Camarade_Tux: ill check it out [12:41] but nvu is annoying if you have to change things afterwards [12:41] hrm [12:41] so i cant open existing pages and edit? [12:42] I wouldn't use nvu for that [12:42] alexg (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:42] it would recreate the code [12:42] i dont need upload fetures, just need to lay down tables and divs and structure; like a mock template [12:42] the way it works/used to work is too "interpret" the page and recreate the whole code [12:43] Camarade_Tux: an example would be an html version of this instead of a png version: http://www.gnodes.org/ticket-system.png [12:43] I found that only a text editor would work properly [12:43] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [12:43] alexg (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:43] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-160.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:44] does anyone use a colour scheme in mc? all the blog posts or solutions i found online dont work for me. [12:44] seamonkey has a built in WYSIWYG html editor, it should be good enough for basic stuff, it does tables ok, but no frame support [12:44] there is quanta plus [12:44] iirc nvu is seamonkey's editor but I'm everything for sure [12:44] tried that? [12:45] Pig_Pen: have you tired midori? [12:45] i basically want to use default rather than black as backround when i run mc -b [12:45] any ideas? [12:45] sahko: in in /src/color.c you can edit what colors mc uses, i tweaked mine to make mc look better [12:45] dartmouth: I found that only text editors were giving reliable results [12:46] wysiwug editors suck. They make bloated and hard to read code [12:46] wysiwigs might be good for prototyping but then you have to use your little fingers :) [12:46] Pig_Pen: id rather edit some config file. not edit the program source, which would mean recompiling it etc etc [12:46] andarius: im not concerned about the code. someone else is going to come and clean it up. all i care about is not having to know html. [12:46] Pig_Pen: i supposingly can be done by editing mc.ini, but doesnt work for me [12:46] s/i/it [12:47] dartmouth, tried quanta plus? [12:47] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:47] bah, html is easy enough, you don't need to learn too much to do nice things [12:47] i tried setting some colors in mc.ini and it would not work, i have a copy of my color.c if you want to try it [12:47] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:47] If all you care about is not having to know html, then using an html editor to do the job is a bad idea [12:47] dartmouth: see: sup3 dot yaxm dot org/ [12:47] van (n=van@78-51-196.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:48] and see how short and simple the code is, I wrote that about two years ago and that's when I learned html [12:48] Pig_Pen: no thanks. like i said i just want mc to default, as in transparent rather than color0 which i have set to a custom black(deep grey) [12:49] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [12:49] i mean i want mc to use the color i have set for backround in .Xdefault, and not color 0 [12:49] you want a transparent mc, i see [12:49] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Connection timed out [12:49] well, transparent here means basically black [12:50] i dont use such eyecandy, not productive at all [12:50] http://imagebin.org/58066 heres a screenshot if you change your mind [12:50] a1g_ (n=a1g@adsl-248-232-153.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] u guys use mc under X ? [12:50] DeeeeP: yeah... [12:51] i use mc in x or the cli, i love mc, that little app is my main file manager & text editor [12:51] mc is a compromise really, coreutils works great most of the time [12:51] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:52] Nick change: shpendk -> sucker666 [12:52] mugwort13 (n=mugwort1@pool-96-244-137-76.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:52] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@79.101.69.90) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Pig_Pen, how u access mc menus under Terminal , if is that term u use [12:52] cause i make alt something, and will pop up terminal menus , and not mc menus [12:52] Nick change: sucker666 -> shpendk [12:52] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Pig_Pen: do you custom colors in .Xdefaults, or .Xresources ? i specifically mean a custom color0 [12:52] F9 will activate the menu [12:52] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Camarade_Tux so how do i get a row on the right of that; going to steal your html lol [12:53] ok , thanks [12:53] Pig_Pen: also, is that xterm? [12:53] also mc works with either the mouse in X or gpm in cli [12:53] sakura [12:53] hmm [12:53] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:53] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:53] hey all [12:53] using the terminus font [12:54] dartmouth, need to define a new dive with floating: right set [12:54] hey, gtl:) [12:54] slackboy: thx. i'll look up the rest so i dont flood the chan with OT [12:54] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) joined ##slackware. [12:54] dartmouth: with the styles, you can set percentage [12:54] dartmouth, http://www.barelyfitz.com/screencast/html-training/css/positioning/ [12:55] Pig_Pen: look how my mc -b looks in xterm: http://omploader.org/vMjMxZg [12:55] i want it to have a black background without changing my custom color0 [12:55] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:56] http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/kaminsky/ [12:56] that looks like mc with the --nocolor option, you dont get the syntax highlighting with that [12:56] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [12:56] i dont need it, at least for the use i have mc handy for [12:56] Chakravanti, read about that, embarrasing [12:56] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Client Quit [12:57] i sure like syntax highlighting when editing shellscripts & stuff like that [12:57] thats what vim is for :) [12:58] note his usage of "vim" not that blue-suede-shoes default crapola [12:59] tbagg (n=tom@ool-182dbb2d.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:00] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:00] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:00] SuperMiguel (n=miguel@cpe-173-169-39-45.tampabay.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:00] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:01] I'm having problems with ncurses driven menus [13:01] re hi :) [13:02] tbagg (n=tom@ool-182dbb2d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] how was the apero fredoslack ? =) [13:03] Camarade_Tux, very hard lool [13:04] fredoslack: hahaha :P [13:04] do you have grappa in FR? [13:04] grappa? hmmm [13:05] proper grappa makes all other beverages seem gay :P [13:05] its yucky [13:05] I think you can find some in the south of France but I've probably never drunk any [13:06] shik4nt4z4 (i=57f8a441@gateway/web/freenode/x-aorxkwssbgfquwvy) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Action: slackytude likes ouzo [13:06] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:07] slackytude: ouzo has sugar, grappa, on the other hand doesnt [13:07] Does ndiswrapper work under slackware64-current? [13:07] I did not manage to setup my wireless. [13:10] shik4nt4z4: hmm, are you using 64bit windows drivers? and what does dmesg say? or ndiswrapper-something? [13:11] Camarade_Tux: Yes, I do use 64bit driver. [13:11] shik4nt4z4: and the logs? [13:11] hi guys thanks a lot i successfully reverted back my slackware 12.2 system [13:11] Camarade_Tux: ndiswrapper -l reports the right driver installed for the right device. My device is a broadcom bcm4328 [13:11] uh broadcom [13:12] hmmm, broadcomm :) [13:12] i want to enable hugemem kernel becuase my dell power edge SC 1435 have 24 GB ram but showing only 3 GB [13:12] shik4nt4z4: does 'iwlist s' return anything ? [13:12] bnhashmi, uh get 64 biz [13:12] bnhashmi, uh get 64 bit [13:13] its 32 bit [13:13] slackware version is 32 bit [13:13] Camarade_Tux: iwconfig says no wirelles extension. [13:13] lol, with 24GB I'd go 64bit [13:13] bnhashmi, wait for 13, get the currentor use slamd64 [13:13] shik4nt4z4: does it see your card? and what command(s) do you run? [13:14] tell me which kernel i should use right now i have 2.6.27.7 [13:14] Camarade_Tux: For iwconfig I just use it as I typed it. [13:14] anyhelp from u guys is appriecated [13:14] you wont be happy with hughmem [13:15] slackytude: hugmem! the memory that hugs you! :D [13:15] Camarade_Tux: Regarding the ndiswrapper install I have followed this guide: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:ndiswrapper [13:15] i should reinstall with 64 bit [13:15] bnhashmi: slamd or wait for 13 as they said [13:15] or get the rc [13:15] ok [13:15] but for now what i should do [13:15] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [13:15] i want enable 64G [13:16] because my server is runing cacti,nagios and is laking RAM [13:16] Action: winterx moans [13:16] shik4nt4z4: btw, have you rebooted since you installed ndiswrapper? [13:16] a1g (n=a1g@adsl-248-232-233.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Camarade_Tux: Yes, I did. But I will give it a try again. One moment. [13:17] shik4nt4z4: no, no need to [13:17] shik4nt4z4: it was to be sure the modules were loaded (which you can too achieve without rebooting) [13:17] uva (i=bno@220-136-228-142.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] shik4nt4z4: does lsmod show the ndiswrapper module? if so, does dmesg show anything special? [13:18] Camarade_Tux: One moment. I will check that. [13:19] Camarade_Tux: modprobe -l lists ... misc/ndiswrapper.ko [13:19] Action: Camarade_Tux hasn't used ndiswrapper in nearly two years [13:19] shik4nt4z4: no, not modprobe -l, lsmod [13:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431640.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:20] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [13:21] Camarade_Tux: lsmod gives ... ndiswrapper 239936 0 [13:21] Camarade_Tux: dmesg says that ndiswrapper is loaded [13:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] hi hiptobecubic [13:22] morning [13:22] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:23] hi hiptobecubic [13:23] howdy [13:23] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:23] shik4nt4z4: hmmm, it's been too long for me to remember [13:24] :-( [13:25] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-245-139.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] I remember doing something like ndiswrapper -l, ndiswrapper -m, ndiswrapper -li, asking god for ndiswrapper to work and finally reboot [13:25] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [13:26] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:27] geeshock (n=jmhowell@ip70-161-80-176.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] Camarade_Tux: I have found this: http://www.wireless-driver.com/download/broadcom/Broadcom-bcm43xx-wireless-chips-driver-for-Linux.htm [13:31] Camarade_Tux: How do I get kernel module working? [13:34] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:36] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-160.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:37] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [13:37] geeshock (n=jmhowell@ip70-161-80-176.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:40] shik4nt4z4: that one works like crap [13:40] the infamous bcm43xx :D [13:41] in more recent kernels there is a new driver but I don't know how well it works [13:41] Camarade_Tux: And it is blacklisted in modprobe. [13:41] Camarade_Tux: I have found a driver on the vroadcom website. Maybe it will work. [13:41] Camarade_Tux: I have found a driver on the Broadcom website. Maybe it will work. [13:42] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:43] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:43] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] Action: Camarade_Tux sceptical [13:44] broadcom sucls [13:44] sucks too [13:45] it even nacl! [13:45] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [13:45] back [13:45] sucl: sulfate chloryde? [13:45] slackytude: That is why next time will choose linux compatible hardware. [13:46] shik4nt4z4, aye [13:46] greetings everybody...hows it going [13:46] How do I remove a module? modprobe -r ndiswrapper is useless. [13:46] rmmod [13:46] shik4nt4z4 wireless for linux = atheros [13:46] y0 The-Croupier [13:47] The-Croupier: Hello! [13:47] intel works well too [13:48] hiya slackytude, Camarade_Tux , shik4nt4z4 [13:48] hows things? [13:48] Action: slackytude is stilla live [13:48] slackytude: damn ;) [13:49] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [13:49] hi, slackytude i want to enable hugemem kernel need help [13:50] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc2" [13:50] bnhashmi, 1) never did it 2) get 64bit [13:50] which kernel version i should use right now i have 2.6.27.7 [13:50] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:50] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [13:50] isnt that the one you access kernel to do it? [13:50] The-Croupier, hows it on your side? [13:50] is 64bit is released for slackware 12 [13:50] slackytude: work from all corners, money is coming .. so im happy... [13:51] The-Croupier: Give me some money, I am broke! :-) [13:51] gf is away, getting to go out in diff places, more time to myself and work [13:51] bnhashmi, wait for 13, use the release candidate or get slamd64 [13:51] shik4nt4z4: i would love to .. but i owe a lot [13:51] hum [13:52] one, stupid, lame bananah [13:52] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:52] The-Croupier: :-D [13:52] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [13:52] winterx: you are looking in the mirror?! [13:52] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-145-4.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:53] By the way? Where is xorg.config in Slackware64-current? [13:54] how to enable my 24gb of ram?? :), ffs [13:54] 24gb of RAM wow, sh** . Give me some! [13:54] use 64bit OS [13:55] 128gb of ram would be even more awsome [13:55] which is max on 64bits os [13:55] i only have 3gb of ram...:( [13:55] 2gb of RAM is the best. [13:55] :-) [13:55] Action: slackytude has 1Gig, heh [13:55] bnhashmi ons it all [13:55] owns [13:56] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] winterx: why dont you have a look here: www.google.com [13:56] C00re: techninally the limit is 16.8 million terabyte [13:56] kitche: oh? lol. [13:56] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] The-Croupier: for what?? i know how ;s [13:56] C00re: but there is physical constraints so OSes limit themselves [13:57] yep [13:57] 20:55 < winterx> how to enable my 24gb of ram?? :), ffs [13:57] yoyo The-Croupier [13:57] i should quote that [13:57] just look at winxp, limits at 3gb even if you have 4gb [13:57] hey guys how much ax for 32-bit [13:57] max* [13:57] C00re, only 32bit XP [13:57] yea [13:57] is there a 64bit xp? [13:57] yes [13:57] ofcourse [13:57] Action: Camarade_Tux will buy 8GB [13:58] its crap [13:58] slackytude: agree so far [13:58] 64bit xp isn't great afaik [13:58] its crap [13:58] 64bit xp is just 2003 kernel in the xp [13:58] but that's not surprising considering it's the first 64bit OS from microsoft [13:58] rather use vista [13:58] kitche: why do you believe that [13:58] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: "Leaving" [13:58] vista 64bits of even worse than xp, iirc [13:58] The-Croupier: because it is [13:59] C00re, nothing, expect win ME, is worse than 64bit XP [13:59] linux > any window< [13:59] s [13:59] 2003 wasnt a bad version of windows though..considering the rest [14:00] yeah, 2k3 performs well. a bit pedantic about IE but works ok [14:01] it seems to me..windows is to dependant on IE, and windows explorer. [14:01] no shit [14:01] any of those missing windows goes on holidays [14:02] i noticed the other day.. if u use any other browser and dont at least access IE for couple of months..win just goes error this,error that, lib this...etc... [14:02] does anyone find themselves learning things for seemingly no reason? [14:02] yesyes, like? [14:02] welsh [14:02] yesyes: ?example? [14:02] heh [14:02] no [14:04] i do it quite a lot with programming languages. i'm learning asm at the moment. and i didn't really start off with much of a reason. i just start these things. and never really do much with them. [14:04] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@79.101.69.90) left irc: "Leaving" [14:04] yesyes: find something you want to do..something you want to achieve..and see what tools you will need...youll see there is alot to learn in that direction [14:04] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:05] like now: im looking for ONE command to output only my ipaddress of this pc [14:05] that's a good idea, crou. i usually work the other way around. [14:05] The-Croupier, lan or external? [14:06] yesyes: did that for some time..got me nowhere [14:06] hey guys where slackware 12 puts ip, ip_aliases information [14:06] slackytude: both if possible [14:06] i want to make them permanent [14:06] The-Croupier, lan is easy, external needs web scraping [14:06] slackytude: external..is it that command with l ynx..? [14:07] Action: yesyes heeds crou's advice, about 11 years too late :p [14:07] yesyes: what do you mean? [14:08] The-Croupier, I meant your external IP [14:08] lynx --dump http://checkip.dyndns.com:8245/ [14:08] slackytude: that does the job..but is it classified as one command? [14:09] for example...is it possible to do it without dyndns..etc... [14:09] Camarade_Tux: The funny thing is that ndiswrapper uses an alternative driver, ssb. But I have found a possible solution here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/wireless-will-not-search-674226/ [14:09] any internal commands to check the ip? [14:09] for external one can also use "curl www.whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp" [14:09] Are RUby GTK bindings part of Slackware? [14:10] ik ruby is [14:10] The-Croupier: you can also utilize slackadelic.com/ip.php [14:10] to get an external IP from internal only sources is difficult unless you know all the router/gateway data between you and the net [14:10] it returns a plain text IP [14:10] even then it is not reliable [14:10] andarius: i understand [14:10] thank you [14:11] The-Croupier, what andarius said [14:11] heh [14:11] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:11] so my initial post lynx...etc is right right? [14:11] whatismyip.com returns plaintext as well [14:11] The-Croupier, yeah [14:11] there are different ways mentioned here..but that one does the job as well [14:11] thanks [14:11] the curl line i posted above uses whatismyip.com :P [14:12] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:12] The-Croupier, as for internal ip, thats ifconfig plus some awk [14:12] bernie_ (n=bernie@pool-98-117-255-31.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:13] i now have to find a way to write a script to login in to a ftp server, upload file, and read.. [14:13] slackytude: yep done the internal already [14:13] Are RUby GTK bindings part of Slackware? or how do i check? [14:13] slackpkg clean-system is it a way? [14:13] The-Croupier, how if I may ask? [14:14] /sbin/ifconfig | grep "inet addr" | cut -f2 -d: | cut -f1 -d' ' | sed 1q [14:14] yskapell (n=panthro@195.134.89.99) joined ##slackware. [14:14] hello guys [14:14] how are you? [14:14] slackytude: that alright? ;) [14:15] insider- (n=insider@adsl-254-235.diodos.auth.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:15] The-Croupier, Id probably used awk instead of cut but sure its alright ^-^ [14:15] Is recommended the slackpkg for updating the slackware? [14:15] yskapell, yes [14:15] echo -n "IP Number: <-- i put this as well to make it more you know proffessional ;) lol [14:15] heh [14:15] slackytude: I suppose for kernel also. It will not mess up anything? [14:16] yskapell, not for me or anybody I know [14:16] yskapell: no problem..i did it 3times by now..nothing messed up yet [14:17] right... I prefer the old fashion way and always I have to run the lilo -v after updating the kernel [14:17] i cannot shutdown as user..i have checked the groups, permissions, but still dont get any buttons for shutdown,restart...etc [14:17] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "all this effort to get and I all I have to show for it is a good amount of lost time" [14:17] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-13.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:17] yskapell: it does it in the end [14:17] The-Croupier, are in power group? which wm? [14:17] it runs lilo for you [14:17] Correcting me if I am wrong but the I have to run lilo again when I update the kernel using slackpkg? [14:18] slackytude: neither xfce or flux [14:18] slackytude: im sure i was..let me check again [14:18] yskapell : yes. you always do [14:19] The-Croupier: did you login using kdm? [14:20] well I have to test it... [14:20] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:20] thanks for the info guys [14:20] tewmten: grep power /etc/group [14:21] thrice`, fail [14:21] thrice`: nothing on that one [14:21] oops [14:21] looks like im not...i cannot see the group power i think in there [14:21] The-Croupier, you are not in power group then [14:22] slackytude: hahah...i got that much ;) lol [14:22] ^-^ [14:22] Action: winterx burps [14:22] The-Croupier: there is group power with gid 84 [14:22] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:22] gpasswd -a power USERNAME, iirc [14:22] no [14:22] no! [14:22] gpasswd -a USER power [14:22] gpasswd -a user group [14:23] aye [14:23] bah. i want a system that reads my mind. [14:23] I wouldnt -_- [14:24] thrice`: unknown group power i get :( [14:24] O_o [14:24] thats what i mean i dont have a power group in anywhere...:( [14:25] how did you manage that? [14:25] slackytude: i wish i knew [14:25] there are lots of times that i sit on my laptop really sleepy.. and try to work out something...seems it must have been one of those nights...:( [14:26] could anyone point on what does that group have in? [14:26] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:26] ill create another one i guess... [14:27] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-41-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [14:27] power is 84 for me on 12.1 [14:28] not sure what happens to files which belong to the group after group is missing [14:28] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Action: Camarade_Tux kisses fire|bird, on the chicks of course [14:28] y0 fire|bird [14:28] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:29] hmmm...is there a way to create another one? [14:29] y0 slackytude, how's it going? [14:29] y0 Camarade_Tux [14:29] The-Croupier, sure, groupadd [14:30] hiya fire|bird [14:30] hi The-Croupier [14:30] The-Croupier, but could you pastebin your /etc/groups somewhere? [14:30] fire|bird, still alive. how are you? [14:30] slackytude: I'm great, thank you. [14:31] slackytude: I've found out now that the fan on the laptop that doesn't work is the heatsink fan. :( [14:31] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:31] fire|bird, thats bad? [14:31] fire|bird: nice :D [14:31] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [14:32] slackytude: the one you definitely don't want to fail :D [14:32] ah [14:32] slackytude: i dont have a /etc/groups ... i have an /etc/group [14:32] The-Croupier, I always confuse that [14:32] slackytude: if that one fails, the cpu could literally fry. :P [14:32] slackytude: one sec ;) [14:32] fire|bird, thats bad! [14:32] slackytude: very. [14:33] fire|bird, thats very bad! [14:34] How do I do rmmod properly? When I execute rmmod ssb it says ssb does not exist in /proc/modules but when using ndiswrapper kernell loads alternate module ssb [14:35] oh, firefox sucks so much :) [14:35] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:35] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:35] Camarade_Tux: all the more reason to get your browser finished. :D [14:35] fire|bird: you should be able to get one of those fans cheap anyway no? [14:36] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:36] okay i feel like i'm missing something obvious but i've been over the tar description and isn't there something i can append to the command to give the extraction a destination other than the location of the archive? [14:36] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.157.58.61) joined ##slackware. [14:36] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] chopp: yeah, should be able to, looks easy to replace too. [14:37] fire|bird: right now there is something that really annoys me: I'm using gobject-introspection and it's not good enough [14:37] Camarade_Tux: make something better? :P [14:37] for instance, it doesn't say glib's gchar/guchar are aliases/typedefs for char/uchar [14:37] fire|bird: it's a terrible thing, really hard to do [14:38] fire|bird: but I can maybe fix upstream [14:38] Chakravanti, -C DIR afaik [14:38] fire|bird: I just finished giving one of my thinkpads the "arctic silver" treatment, selling it, and just upgraded it from one on ebay. [14:38] or just join #introspection on gimpnet [14:38] Chakravanti, tar xf foo.tar.gz -C /path/to/destination [14:38] okay [14:38] i saw that [14:39] but it kinda confused me a bit [14:39] yskapell (n=panthro@195.134.89.99) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:39] Action: Chakravanti starts boiling water for a another cup of coffee [14:40] i am back!!!! [14:40] RUN! [14:40] Action: slackytude shots tecky [14:40] no? [14:40] shoots* [14:40] Action: slackytude shoots tecky [14:40] but thnx anyway for shooting me [14:40] well, no need to run anymore [14:41] right [14:41] i need to fix gpodder [14:41] apparently i'm missing out on some "amazing" shows [14:41] whatever the heck amazing means [14:43] yskapell (n=panthro@195.134.89.99) joined ##slackware. [14:45] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [14:47] slackytude: just the group was needed... seems to work atm [14:47] right [14:47] still wondering how you got rid of it [14:47] slackytude: same here bro..i dont know.. [14:48] gremlins again [14:48] they are everywhere <_< >_> [14:48] i also got rid of the touchpad (whatever is called) for the mouse [14:48] slackytude: tell me about it ;) [14:48] lol [14:49] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:50] Karficata (i=1000@87.121.96.142) joined ##slackware. [14:51] jnylin (n=jnylin@c-5f72e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:52] dtanner: there? [14:52] dtanner: here? [14:52] evening all [14:53] evening individual [14:53] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.81.72) joined ##slackware. [14:53] evening nobody, I don't like you -_- [14:53] (except dtanner :) ) [14:54] you only like dtanner? [14:55] y0 dive [14:55] yo [14:56] dive: yeah, I hate you *all* -_- [14:56] fine [14:57] Camarade_Tux: The-Croupier: Yes. [14:57] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [14:59] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [14:59] dtanner: nice, I need gnome-autogen.sh, do you think I can have it without getting too many deps? [15:00] it is in /var/log/packages/gnome-common-2.24.0-i486-1gwK:usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh [15:00] dtanner: think I can have it without everything else? [15:01] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:01] /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh: Bourne shell script text executable [15:01] bash script, depending on what it calls within the script. [15:02] Karficata (i=1000@87.121.96.142) left irc: "leaving" [15:02] you need several deps I am looking now [15:02] i will pastebin them for you [15:03] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.9.134) joined ##slackware. [15:03] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [15:03] dtanner: thanks [15:03] ··· [15:03] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [15:03] hey dtanner [15:04] http://pastebin.com/d414b1c02 [15:04] hello gtl [15:05] back on gware :) [15:05] Chakravanti, fame at last mate: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1623 [15:06] dtanner: I'd only need gtk-doc/gnome-doc :) [15:06] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.9.134) left irc: Client Quit [15:06] lmfao [15:06] welcome :-) [15:06] dtanner: but I may have access to a machine with gnome (the one I'm currently irc'ing through actually) so I'd be able to autogen there [15:06] shpendk1 (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [15:06] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.9.134) joined ##slackware. [15:07] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:07] Nick change: shpendk1 -> shpendk [15:07] Camarade_Tux: thats cool, you could grab the packs from gware.org if you want. they are built against 12.2. or of course build yourself. you could grab the buildscripts from gware.org if you want and adjust accordingly. [15:08] hey dtanner, how are you? [15:08] hey fire|bird [15:08] hello fire|bird. i am good. yourself? [15:08] hey gtl [15:09] dtanner: doing great, thanks. [15:10] dtanner: gonna see that :) [15:11] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:12] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.157.58.61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:12] Wicked (n=rewt@unaffiliated/blazed) left irc: [15:13] dtanner: lol: gnome-common package is 29KB :D [15:14] bah, gnome [15:14] gnome-- [15:14] gtk+ [15:15] gnome isn't my most favorite de, but it could be worse. :P [15:15] shik4nt4z4 (i=57f8a441@gateway/web/freenode/x-aorxkwssbgfquwvy) left irc: "Page closed" [15:15] hey thumbs [15:15] hi fire|bird [15:18] dtanner: think I can install the package on slackware64-current? [15:18] seems architecture independant [15:18] yeah, seems ok [15:20] running nicely, thanks a lot! [15:20] anyone use realplayer in slack? i need it for the learn welsh bbc site... [15:20] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [15:20] yesyes, mplayer does real [15:20] Action: Camarade_Tux shoots yesyes [15:21] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:21] for your own good :) [15:21] slackytude: ah, thanks. [15:21] real has the well deserved reputation for being crap [15:21] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:21] Action: yesyes wonders if the bbc site will play nicely with mplayer [15:22] they might be better now but nobody cares [15:22] hey, i hate rp as well. but needs must. [15:22] the bbc is pretty open, you could maybe even ask them for a better format [15:22] few things dont play well with mplayer [15:23] yeah, could do, but i need to learn welsh at_right_this_second [15:24] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.9.134) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:24] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:25] there's a slacky.eu tgz. getting that. not sure if the site will recognise mplayer as okay to play rp files. [15:25] mplayer is on sbo [15:26] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer/ [15:26] why wouldn't mplayer play .rm & .rp files? [15:26] as long as you have the codecs [15:26] it's getting the site to say, okay you have realplayer now i'll play the files... [15:26] is there a way to use mirrors file in slackpkg and rsync to patches and to current? [15:26] Action: Chakravanti shudders remembering some real player infested machines [15:27] The-Croupier, whut? [15:27] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:27] slackytude: He wants to upgrade to current with slackpkg. :) [15:27] godspeed [15:28] I don't think you can use rsync with the mirrors file and slackpkg though, can you? Even if you can, it's not the best way to do it. :P [15:28] slackytude: ++ [15:28] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.249) joined ##slackware. [15:28] no sorry..i am using current... [15:29] The-Croupier, what is it, you are trying to do exactly= [15:29] The-Croupier: then I think you should rephrase your question. :P [15:29] i wanted to see what patches do we follow..since thre are none for current? i think i hear about using 12.2/patches.. [15:30] afaik there are no patches for current. what would be the pointß [15:30] now my question: do we rsync to 12.2/patches when using current?, is it possible to rsync to patches/ and current/ folders with one mirror file in slackpkg [15:30] slackytude: yep agreed on that [15:30] The-Croupier: NO, you don't use 12.2 patches on current. [15:30] appel (n=frank@f048105050.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:31] uh, using 12.2 patches on a current system sounds like trouble [15:31] fire|bird: ok ;) [15:31] appel (n=frank@f048105050.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware ("Verlassend"). [15:31] i checked the patches on 12.2 and the version i have on my current and they seem kind of the same... [15:31] didnt check all of them ;) [15:32] i've always preferred a reinstall to an upgrade [15:32] I think I upgraded from 10.0 to 11.something [15:32] but i've not gotten to the point I have an os built the way I'm so comfortable with I want to preserve it so badly. [15:33] The-Croupier: even if some versions are the same, they are each built against their respective version (i.e. 12.2 patches built against 12.2 and current's updates built against current) [15:33] Chakravanti, you usually make /home on its own partition and store your slackbuilds there as well [15:33] i.e. it wouldn't work, and if it did, it probably wouldn't work well. [15:33] like right now...everything i'm doing is purely for learning how to get slackware the way i like it (and to find out what way i like it) [15:33] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Connection timed out [15:33] yes, usually [15:34] i did that with ubuntu [15:34] i don't have enough HD space atm to do so [15:34] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:35] so, google wave [15:35] you guys know about it? [15:35] I've heard of it [15:35] bobJR (n=bob@adsl-150-237-62.tys.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:36] its cool [15:36] google wave?! [15:36] slackytude: you've tried it? [15:36] nah, watched the demo, read the docs [15:36] want to try ir [15:36] s7IR7it [15:36] O_o [15:36] s/ir/it [15:37] hmmm how? [15:37] slackytude: when is it expected to be released? [15:37] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.158.251) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:38] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7ADC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:39] The-Croupier, how? [15:39] fire|bird, this year, they releases a server implementation as source already [15:39] they are going to opensource it all. expect their own client [15:40] slackytude: nice [15:40] and it really looks like a game changer to me. [15:40] how can people try it [15:40] at the demo they even showed a wave client done in ncurses on commandline [15:40] The-Croupier, closed beta [15:40] bobJR (n=bob@adsl-150-237-62.tys.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.151) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:41] The-Croupier, so, you can't unless you got a beta account [15:41] i see... and where can we get a beta account? [15:41] at the google wave site, afaik [15:42] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:42] The-Croupier: you can sign up for updates about it here: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/ [15:42] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:43] fire|bird: i did already sign up to try it..and see it first hand.. [15:44] The-Croupier: great [15:44] I just did too. :P [15:44] if you have some time, watch the video [15:44] slackytude: doing that now. [15:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl16-252.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:45] geraldoav (n=geraldoa@187.42.8.77) joined ##slackware. [15:45] hello guys [15:46] watched some of the video..ill finish the rest tomorrow [15:46] wb Lord_Khelben [15:46] Lord_Khelben: hiya [15:46] thank you slackytude :) [15:46] The-Croupier: hello comrade :) [15:46] greetings Lord_Khelben [15:47] ooh fire|bird is here too. i didn't see you. greetings [15:47] :) [15:49] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-135.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] geraldoav (n=geraldoa@187.42.8.77) left irc: Client Quit [15:49] cmair (n=cmair@host54-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:49] what's google wave? [15:49] the new shit from google [15:49] msn+facebook together [15:49] redefine "shit"? :) [15:49] ah [15:49] if i understood well from the video [15:49] and what's msn? [15:50] sort of email, Instant messaging and collaboration inside one protocol [15:50] i watched the first 35 minutes for the 01:20 [15:50] i'm a slacker not a M#er :) [15:50] ah ok [15:50] Lord_Khelben, bah [15:50] ty [15:50] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [15:50] Lord_Khelben, its not msn+facebook [15:50] slackytude: i thought that was google voice? [15:50] so more of a corporate thing to make the slaves more productive? :) [15:50] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] agentc0re: nope, wave will incorporate voice though.' [15:51] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:51] agentc0re, no, thats google wave. [15:51] the good thing is it is opensource [15:51] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-80-17-213.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] bbiab [15:51] hello guys [15:51] no more messing with msn's closed protocol that changes revision every 2days [15:51] Quiznos, well, yes [15:51] I didn't visit the link but just from the description you mentioned it sounds exactly live google voice. [15:51] I upgrade the slackware using slackpkg and now I get this error [15:51] kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,2) [15:51] downloading video right now cos youtube is slow on this one [15:52] yskapell: do you use initramfs image ? [15:52] speaking of which, i am so glad the FCC butted in and asked apple and att WTF for taking that app out of the store. [15:52] I check lilo and point i root partition and lilo run after upgrade [15:52] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [15:52] agentc0re, not really. google voice is phone stuff. wave tries to replace email+IM in one new protocoll [15:53] I use the default Lord_Khelben [15:53] the default ? [15:53] gotcha. I think i remember watching a video for that a while ago. [15:53] geraldoav (n=geraldoa@187.42.8.77) joined ##slackware. [15:53] the see letters as the other uses types them is nice feature :) [15:53] s/uses/user/ [15:54] Lord_Khelben, like real time msn? [15:54] yes, and you can edit the wave and all will see the changes [15:54] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) left irc: Client Quit [15:54] dive: instead of seeing "dive is typing a message" like msn [15:54] bernie_ (n=bernie@pool-98-117-255-31.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] you see the actual letters appearing one by one [15:54] can go back to original message and see changes step by step, revision control [15:54] Not sure if i like the fact that everyone would know how much i cant spell and rely on spell check. [15:54] Lord_Khelben, that would be annoying though [15:54] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [15:55] dive: some times yes [15:55] agentc0re, yes indeed [15:55] thats easy to turn on/off, tho [15:55] bernie_ (n=bernie@pool-98-117-255-31.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] "well I think the idea stinks^H^H^H^H^H^H needs more consideration." [15:55] hehehe [15:56] the video is also funny because there is stuff failing for them [15:56] "you have nice boobs^h^h^h^h^heyes" :P [15:56] yskapell: can you still boot to your old kernel? [15:56] sdrv (n=sdrv@e176092170.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] like wifi drops for the mobile devices and so on [15:56] no [15:57] It did not keep the old kernel the slackpkg [15:57] yskapell: by "default" you mean you run the slackware provided kernel ? [15:57] do you run a initramfs ? [15:57] yskapell: I will assume you upgraded to 12.2. Do you have the dvd? [15:58] Lord_Khelben: I do not use initrd [15:58] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [15:58] agentc0re: I had already installed the current slackware and I upgrade to kernel 2.6.29.6-smp [15:58] then if you ran lilo after upgrading it should work [15:59] Lord_Khelben: but i did not work [15:59] goodnight guys... [15:59] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [15:59] nn [16:00] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:00] after the unknown block device there should be 1-2 informative lines. did it mention anything about controller or filesystem ? [16:01] you can also boot the system using the dvd like agentc0re suggested [16:01] yes I think that it mention the file system [16:01] that it can not find it [16:01] Wine is great lool > http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/0005.gif [16:01] do you use the huge or the generic kernel ? [16:01] generic [16:01] then how come you don't use initrd ? [16:01] hu hu [16:02] generic kernels need one (unless you use ext2 i think ext2 is included) [16:02] vmlinuz-generix-smp-2.6.29.6-smp kernel [16:02] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:02] mkinirtd? [16:02] i may be wrong but i have the impression that you can't run the generic kernel without initramfs [16:02] yes mkinitrd [16:03] I will try the huge if not I will boot from a live CD to fix that [16:03] Action: jescis has a messed up screen and must reboot :( [16:03] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-80-17-213.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:04] yskapell: Grab the 12.2 dvd iso unless you already have it. Boot to the DVD. when you get a prompt you'll need to mount your partition and then chroot it. I would start by rerunning lilo 'lilo -t -v' and check the output for any errors. [16:05] yskapell: And if you've only installed the generic over huge then yes, you can change that in lilo when you have chrooted it or make a initrd. either way you will need to edit lilo.conf and rerun lilo. [16:06] agentc0re: I have the DVD from Slackware 11 but for your suggestion I think will help me [16:06] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [16:06] croscato (n=quassel@201-92-49-182.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Dominian, i'm awake now :D [16:06] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-80-17-213.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] how did you install the system ? [16:08] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [16:08] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.128.80) joined ##slackware. [16:08] Lord_Khelben: If you ask me I install Slackware 12.0 and after installation I upgrade in Slackware-current, adn today I did an update using slackpkg [16:09] I made the switch to Windows 7 from slackware! [16:09] j/k [16:09] you upgraded from 12.0 to -current ? wow [16:09] you have courage [16:09] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-149-185.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [16:09] shOne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [16:09] with a few bread lol > http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Manger/0046.gif [16:09] shOne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] Operating System: Unsupported Windows 6.1 (Build #7600) [16:10] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] I boot from Slackware 12.0 DVD and run lilo -t -v [16:10] MNZ (n=mnzaki@85.154.100.79) joined ##slackware. [16:10] I got 3 warnings and 0 errors [16:10] hey everybody, how do I change my ident from 1000@ to something@ ? [16:10] gs94 (n=gafsep94@41.234.161.148) joined ##slackware. [16:10] there should be an option for your irc client to do that [16:11] what client do you use ? [16:11] Lord_Khelben, I've set my username in xchat to something else, but doesn't work.. [16:11] xchat probably [16:11] yep [16:11] High_Priest, running identd? [16:11] superGear: how did you know ? [16:11] dive, yes [16:12] I'm psychic [16:12] I just lost the game :( [16:12] what game? [16:12] superGear: can you tell me the tzoker (greek lottery) numbers ? [16:13] I don't know geek [16:13] game of life? [16:13] The Game. [16:13] http://losethegame.com/ [16:13] you can telnet my host on 113 [16:13] Triple H? [16:13] http://losethegame.com [16:13] unreal [16:13] High_Priest: why do you run identd ? [16:13] this can not happens to me. no no no [16:14] I boot from slackware DVD and I chroot the root partition [16:14] Lord_Khelben, I'll answer your question later when I fix this :) [16:14] High_Priest: ok take your time :) [16:14] High_Priest, /etc/identd.conf server:user = [16:14] dive, so, any ideas? [16:14] after that I run liloconfig for expert reset the lilo and I boot normally [16:14] High_Priest, read the man page for possible config options, and look at the conf [16:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:15] then restart it and reconnect irc [16:15] dive, it's as nobody atm, but I don't want to edit that file each time for each username.. [16:15] dive, I wan't irc server to recognize it from irc client as it should [16:15] strange game. the only winning move is not to play [16:15] you can't not play [16:16] global thermonuclear war? [16:16] High_Priest, then turn off identd and use options in irc client [16:16] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: [16:16] or block the 113 to the specific irc server with iptables [16:16] ok, dropping 113 [16:16] let me check [16:16] Lord_Khelben, why block it when you can just turn off the service? [16:16] dive: i assumed he needs identd for some reason [16:16] slackytude: you were always playing The Game since you were born, you just didn't know it [16:16] there's no point in running it _and_ blocking it [16:17] gs94, lies! [16:17] that's it [16:17] working [16:17] thank you [16:17] you disabled the service ? [16:18] what use is identd anyway? [16:18] Lord_Khelben, now to answer your question, currently I'm messing around with some script to do auto ban user (sh**list) based on user@host so I need my user changed for testing purposes [16:18] ah ok then [16:18] Lord_Khelben, no, I just iptableD it for now [16:18] last beer for today [16:18] iptabled it only for the irc server so it works for your other purposes [16:19] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-239-75.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] High_Priest: "export IRCUSER=whatever", most IRC clients will report that to the IRC server instead of your system username [16:19] MNZ (n=mnzaki@85.154.100.79) left irc: "Leaving" [16:19] Lord_Khelben, what other purposes? [16:19] gs94 (n=gafsep94@41.234.161.148) left ##slackware. [16:19] the script to auto ban user [16:19] or anything else you need it for [16:19] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:19] High_Priest: in the absence of identd you get a ~ in front of the name (you probably know that already) [16:19] hey all [16:19] hello gtl [16:20] Urchlay, I didn't know that [16:20] but that doesn't matter [16:20] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] hello gtl [16:21] High_Priest: yeah... and I suppose there are some really lame IRC servers or channel ops still around who ban users that don't have identd (they ban *!~*@* or whatever the proper IRC syntax is) [16:22] hrm [16:22] on some networks you get ~ unless you identify [16:22] same on freenode afaik [16:22] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [16:22] i'm getting 3 errors while trying to start X [16:22] but, you can make your identd server say whatever you want it to, and so can everyone else. So it's not like the identd is doing anything *useful* [16:22] gn [16:23] yskapell (n=panthro@195.134.89.99) left irc: "leaving" [16:23] they seem related to GConf [16:24] slack doesn't have gconf [16:24] #gconf [16:25] gconf has its own IRC channel? [16:25] no idea [16:25] (rhetorical dumb question, really) [16:25] Lord_Khelben, I using gware and it just broke after recompiling... was running ok just ' till now [16:26] slack have not gconf but it is slack hihi [16:26] Action: fredoslack love slack lool [16:26] gware isn't supported by slackware [16:26] there ought to be a #gware channel [16:26] gtl: if you pastebin the errors we might be able to make something of them [16:26] but since gware isn't slackware related [16:26] we might not be able to help you [16:26] or care to [16:27] ok, thanks... I'll try work this out [16:27] Gnome is evil [16:27] Pure Evil! [16:28] gnome is nice.it is not evil (yet). gnome 3.0 written mostly in c#/mono will be evil :P [16:28] whu? [16:28] they want to write it in mono? [16:28] they are* [16:28] bye all [16:28] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-149-185.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "..." [16:28] whut? [16:28] afaik now only tomboy (a sticky notes program) is written in mono [16:28] irc.gimp.net [16:29] but i read some posts that they mentioned gnome 3.0 will be written in c#/mono [16:29] I doubt it [16:29] eh [16:29] I don't get that at all.. from what I know of C#, it's one of those languages that nobody would use for fun (only gets used in business because the boss makes you use it) [16:29] it isn't [16:29] gnome shell [16:29] Urchlay, nah, its ok [16:29] red hat is quite heavy (read, paying the bills) into gnome, and they seem to not be on board [16:30] the blog posts could be fud of course [16:30] but since tomboy is already written in mono there might be some true in the posts [16:30] Urchlay, same as java, really, which is all the hype [16:30] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [16:30] reminds me. A guy called me up & wants me to get him root access on his own redhat box (he fired his old sysadm, who had changed the password). Wonder what I should charge him... [16:30] tombboy isn't a critical gnome component [16:31] yes ofcourse it isn't [16:31] Urchlay: depends if he's a friend [16:31] someone even ported it to c++ [16:31] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-230-166.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:31] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:31] slackytude: C# and Java are about like Perl and PHP: they look similar enough that, if you know one, you *think* you know the other, but it drives you nuts to actually code in it [16:31] mono aint bad [16:31] Urchlay, still,C# aint bad [16:32] Urchlay, but yeah, of course there are differences [16:32] superGear: he's a complete stranger. Don't want to overcharge him (or not much anyway), he described his situation and it sounds like it may lead to a lot more work for me [16:33] Urchlay: then charge him low to get more work in the future [16:33] maybe even free [16:33] nah [16:33] never free [16:33] don't charge him then [16:33] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:33] nah, not free. I need the money, he's willing to pay [16:33] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Then whatever is fair [16:34] the space marine girl is here :) [16:34] 2 dollars! [16:34] hello missyjane [16:34] missyjane! [16:34] right, I dunno what's a fair price, is what I was asking [16:34] Urchlay, just take the money you usually charge for an hours work and expenses [16:34] hello missyjane [16:34] :) [16:34] y0 missyjane [16:34] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8D364.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:35] yeah, that would probly do [16:35] greetings missyjane [16:35] y0 fredoslack [16:35] hey Urchlay [16:35] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [16:35] iooo fire|bird [16:35] Urchlay, I try not to modify my rates. charge what you always charge. if you are extra cheap he will expect it to be the same in the future [16:35] hey selects|weaving [16:35] er, fire|bird [16:36] well, that is I tried not to [16:36] slackytude: that makes good sense [16:37] croscato (n=quassel@201-92-49-182.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [16:37] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:39] hi fire|bird [16:39] hi slackytude [16:39] hi fredoslack :) [16:39] hello slackers [16:39] Action: missyjane bows to Lord_Khelben + NthDegree [16:39] hello akira42 [16:40] :) space marine girl xD [16:40] i assumed you are space marine not orc [16:41] missyjane: will you bow to me too? :p [16:41] i would but you are mean to me Camarade_Tux, you refuse to please me the way i expect; Lord_Khelben lol Sisters of Battle to be more precise :) [16:42] missyjane: that's not true :p [16:42] how do you expect him to please you ? :P [16:42] Lord_Khelben: are you sure you want to ask? :P [16:42] hehe [16:42] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Lord_Khelben: that could open a hornets nest. :P [16:42] Lord_Khelben: remotely ;) [16:43] we're designing Sex over TCP/IP :) [16:43] hallo people [16:43] yo tewmten [16:43] Camarade_Tux: there was a device some time ago called fufme [16:43] yo el Tuxorino [16:43] SOIP [16:43] you are a bit late [16:43] y0 tewmten [16:43] hahaha [16:43] Camarade_Tux, SOIP [16:43] fire|bird: sup? [16:43] yeah its called sTCP/IP [16:44] man it was gay pride yesterday [16:44] tewmten: working on installing google wave. :D [16:44] man we partied like there was no tomorro [16:44] trust me, it works [16:44] Lord_Khelben: lol :p [16:44] *drools* tewmten youre gay? [16:44] we're selling sTCP/IP as Secure TCP/IP and once everybody uses it, we'll reveal what it really does :) [16:44] missyjane: no [16:44] ...why do girls drool over gay guys? [16:44] missyjane: no, he just plays one on irc. :D [16:45] but i has a couple gay friends [16:45] and also it is always good party during gay pride [16:45] :( [16:45] Urchlay: they dream about 2 men? :P [16:45] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:45] (she's jealous, she wanted to be there) [16:45] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:46] fire|bird: but then they should be drooling over bi guys, not gay ones (who probably wouldn't let a girl watch) [16:46] Action: missyjane wipes off drools, says "meh the drool wasnt for you tewmten" [16:46] :) [16:46] nah missy [16:46] is okay [16:46] Urchlay, Id like to know that as well ^-^ [16:46] im already taken [16:46] Urchlay: good point. :P [16:46] so you're out of luck [16:46] :D:D [16:47] Urchlay: why guys drool over lesbian women ? [16:47] tewmten: consider yourself lucky then that you're already taken. [16:47] same reason i guess [16:47] Action: fire|bird runs [16:47] Action: nachox throws a beer at tewmten [16:47] y0 nachox, how's it going? [16:47] Guest8626 (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:47] Action: superGear throws a bear at fire|bird [16:47] hahaha [16:48] Lord_Khelben: actual lesbians, I don't drool over them generally (usually in every couple, one of them looks & acts like a guy, which doesn't excite me at all) [16:48] Guest8626 (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:48] Action: fire|bird throws a lion at superGear [16:48] i'm sleepy as hell, i had to work from 1am to 5:30 am last night... and it's not like i had a lot of sleep in saturday [16:48] how do i check to see what dependancies slackware has for a particular app i want to install? [16:48] Stop throwing the beer!!! You are shaking it up... pass it gently :P [16:48] Chakravanti: what app is that ? [16:48] hey andarius, how are you? [16:48] Chakravanti: an app that's part of slackware, or a 3rd-party one? [16:48] Chakravanti, install, test, if it breaks run ldd, check what it needs and install that [16:48] Salutations fire|bird, I am well. You ? [16:49] Ruby-gtk2 bindings [16:49] andarius: doing great, thank you. [16:49] Chakravanti: at a guess, ruby and gtk2 will be dependencies for that :) [16:49] ruby and gtk are the obvious ones :P [16:49] lol :) [16:49] yeah, but isn't there something i can look at to see what packages come in slackware? [16:49] hoi nachox :D [16:49] like in the install [16:49] slack has both gtk and ruby [16:49] Chakravanti: ls /var/log/packages <--- shows you all installed packages [16:49] so i can keep track of what i use and don't use [16:50] /var/log/packages [16:50] mso when i reinstall i can trim down and automate the package installing process post install [16:50] why reinstall? [16:51] encryption [16:51] other computers [16:51] changing distros [16:52] etc. [16:52] Chakravanti: here's what I do: if I need some software that isn't already part of slackware, I search for it on slackbuilds.org. If it's there, the README will say what dependencies are required. If it isn't there, I write a SlackBuild for it, with a README that says what the deps are, and upload it to slackbuilds.org [16:53] I'm studying writing slackbuild scripts so i can do that [16:53] fire|bird: you know the real problem with gobject-introspection (which I'm currently relying on to use webkit-gtk from ocaml)? it seems too oriented for python which means laxer typing and it doesn't seem very reliable [16:53] and help automate my installation process [16:53] Chakravanti: good plan. You're on the right track I think [16:53] Camarade_Tux, \o/ [16:54] I'm starting to like Slackware the more I use it [16:54] slackytude: no because it means they lose information and as you know, it won't be recoverable [16:54] Chakravanti, it doesnt get in your way, does it? :P [16:54] slackytude: I'd rather be as precise as possible and let implementations trim what they don't care about [16:54] Camarade_Tux, I was more cheering on the "oriented for python" part [16:55] slackytude: I know ;) [16:55] Camarade_Tux, :P [16:55] no, it's very user friendly. [16:55] well, that would depend on the user [16:55] Albiet at the expense of being idiot-friendly [16:56] it doesnt get in your way when you're about to break everything either [16:56] nobody likes idiots [16:56] I'm often an idiot [16:56] but I'm a very stubborn idiot [16:56] I like you slackytude [16:56] lol [16:56] burn [16:56] superGear, what a coincedence, I like me too [16:56] slackytude, wrong, we work because there are idiots :P [16:57] nachox, we work because we are idots -_- [16:57] Camarade_Tux: Is there anything else you can use for webkit-gtk from ocaml? [16:57] lmao [16:57] slackytude, nah, i work because i like what i do [16:57] uva_ (i=bno@118-168-234-96.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Camarade_Tux, pm me [16:59] yes, she commands you to pm her [16:59] bobJR (n=bob@adsl-150-237-62.tys.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:59] WHen women say jump, you jump [16:59] WHen women say jump, you ask how high [16:59] fire|bird: I need to wrap every function for it to be available from ocaml (at least for the types, ocaml ones are almost native but aren't a perfect match for C) [17:00] nachox: nah, she forgot the sudo part -_- [17:01] bobJR (n=bob@adsl-153-104-205.tys.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] fire|bird: and I'm almost done with the function wrapping [17:02] fire|bird: actually I couldn't have noticed that earlier and now that I've spent so much time, it'd be better to finish that [17:02] superGear, untrue, as when my man ask me to do something, i do it without question [17:02] sudo make me a a sandwich [17:02] (plus I've tried other things and they aren't trivial) [17:02] keyword " my man " :) [17:03] Camarade_Tux: yeah, true. [17:03] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-13.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] fire|bird: do you know some C? [17:04] most anyone here in ##slackware knows almost everything :x [17:04] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-239-75.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:04] so on behalf of fire|bird - yes he knows everything [17:04] missyjane, that's what Lorena Bobbitt used to say.... no... wait... she didnt [17:05] missyjane: ##offtopic [17:05] lol [17:05] alright [17:05] uva_ (i=bno@118-168-234-96.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:05] Bassist (n=Bassist@mnch-5d8563d0.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [17:05] ##slackofftopic even [17:11] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl16-252.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:11] bleh i hate Camarade_Tux, he makes things sound so easy [17:12] he, what I have done this time? :p [17:14] >:( you remember yesterday? "if you advertise for that in public, should be very easy" [17:14] i wont go into detail but it sounds too easy [17:14] bernie_ (n=bernie@pool-98-117-255-31.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:14] Camarade_Tux, hello mister patrick :) [17:14] Action: NthDegree wishes he'd be commanded a bit more often ^_^ [17:14] NthDegree, bring me a beer [17:14] missyjane: he :D [17:14] Camarade_Tux: no I don't. [17:14] slackboy, not you lol [17:14] nachox: for me too [17:14] >_> [17:14] yo fredoslack [17:15] you fredoslack [17:15] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] i tried NthDegree but you said you were lal overr places yesterday >:( [17:15] yo8 [17:15] missyjane, look t this lool >> http://passionserpent.p.a.pic.centerblog.net/f4sdjkp6.jpg [17:15] missyjane, i'm here now ^_^ [17:15] isnt is brautiful hihi [17:15] beautiful [17:15] fire|bird: ok, doesn't matter much anyway: instead of using "void*" which is valid C, they write "any" which is plain invalid [17:15] iooo winterx [17:15] looks like vagina [17:16] fire|bird: you get the meaning but one is valid C, the other isn't [17:16] psss psss :p [17:16] uva (i=bno@220-136-228-142.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:16] yikes!@ [17:17] fredoslack bites missyjane [17:17] hi hi [17:17] pssss [17:18] Hmm, openfire (for google wave) doesn't seem to be working. :/ [17:21] ignore-girl (n=love@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:21] ugh sorry [17:21] wine froze my computer [17:21] im missyjan e [17:22] wine? [17:22] brb [17:22] ignore-girl (n=love@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:22] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [17:22] yes wine [17:22] wb missyjane [17:22] wine for mirc? [17:22] hi hi [17:22] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:23] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.40) left irc: [17:23] nv4phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:23] no [17:23] wine for guild wars [17:23] lol [17:23] ah ok [17:24] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Has somebody managed to install flash on slackware64-current? [17:24] missyjane, >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/0005.gif [17:24] <3 <3 [17:25] hihih [17:25] Channel flood from fredoslack -- kicking [17:25] hi [17:25] fredoslack kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:25] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:25] oups sorry :( [17:25] wb fredoslack :P [17:25] lol [17:25] shik4nt4z4: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current/extra/flashplayer-plugin/ [17:26] shik4nt4z4, I have easily [17:26] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: [17:26] shik4nt4z4, Adobe released a 64-bit flash plugin for Linux (it's ALPHA!) [17:26] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:26] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:26] ye gods! alpha software from adobe [17:26] lol :O [17:27] Yeah, and it's stable in my experience [17:27] just uses a lot of RAM and sometimes leaks if you go to bed with FF open [17:27] gah [17:27] XD [17:28] but that is what cgroups and/or resource limit wrappers are for [17:28] "it sometimes eats your sould while asleep if you leave firefox open, but that's what ghostbusters are there for" :D [17:29] go ghostbusters! [17:29] who you gonna call? [17:29] rg3, sounds a bit like Hurd :P [17:29] slackytude: "alpha software from adobe"? you mean the things they label as "stable"? :D [17:30] Camarade_Tux, even worse -_- [17:30] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.128.80) left irc: "Leaving." [17:30] slackytude: don't tell me that's what they call "beta-quality"? :o [17:30] Camarade_Tux, even worse -_- [17:31] http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html [17:32] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [17:32] NthDegree: But where do I put the plugin. cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins; ln -s /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.1/plugins does not give the expected result. The plugin just wont work. [17:32] slackytude: must be terrible :o [17:32] Action: Camarade_Tux flees! [17:32] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.9.134) joined ##slackware. [17:33] shik4nt4z4, the ALPHA from the link above I gave works if it's put in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins [17:33] There's no need for any symlinks [17:33] well, night all :) [17:34] night Camarade_Tux [17:34] night Camarade_Tux [17:34] ^-^ [17:35] ok [17:35] NthDegree, pm me then [17:36] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) joined ##slackware. [17:36] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [17:36] NthDegree: It doesn't work. [17:37] losher (n=chatzill@c-24-5-85-178.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Good meal >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Manger/0038.gif [17:37] hihi [17:38] <3 <3 [17:38] shik4nt4z4, mine may be a different version, since it gets refreshed regularly [17:38] lemme upload mine somewhere [17:38] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:39] NthDegree: Sorry, it works. [17:39] NthDegree: On the test page are more tests. [17:39] Action: missyjane slaps fredoslack [17:39] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [17:39] NthDegree: The first one was for Shockwave. [17:40] ah right [17:40] NthDegree: Thank you very much! [17:40] :-) [17:40] you're welcome ^^ [17:40] We have 64-bit Flash while OS X and Windows do not :P [17:41] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:41] Snow Leopard even tries to brag about needing a wrapper claiming it makes the browser more reliable [17:41] While Windows needs to run a 32-bit IE to even use Flash XD [17:42] in win7 x64, it's not possible to set ie8 64bit as the default browser [17:42] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [17:42] O_o that sucks [17:43] why? [17:43] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:43] please, its a browser! not everything needs to be 64 bits [17:43] nachox: yeah, that was the point! [17:44] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [17:44] no, it isnt [17:44] the goal was to be sure to avoid all crappy browser extensions! [17:44] nachox, actually... in Linux and OS X there's a performance gain [17:44] at least *my* goal ;) [17:44] With Windows, there isn't but you're restricted to 2GB per-app in 32-bit [17:44] webkit-gtk gets a >30% perf boost in javascript when in 64bit mode ^^ [17:45] NthDegree, the gain doesnt come from being a 64 bit program [17:45] why u cant set ie8 default on win 7 ? [17:45] it possibly comes from using the extra registers available in the amd64 [17:45] DeeeeP: ask ms? [17:45] DeeeeP, you should be able to [17:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:46] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:46] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:46] hmm , i've been on a friend win 7 beta , and as i remember he run ie8 [17:46] geraldoav (n=geraldoa@187.42.8.77) left irc: "Leaving" [17:47] nachox, it comes from not needing bounce buffers and such to accommodate > 1GB RAM [17:47] yeah, but you can't set ie8 64bit as the default browser, you can run it but not set it as a default browser [17:47] and from not needing to flush the CPU cache as often [17:48] Windows doesn't get those boosts because it already worked around those problems at the cost of no PAE support on non-server platforms [17:48] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:48] no browser uses more than 1gb of ram, no even firefox when run for a week, and trust me, i've tried [17:48] the former however, is a kernel boost [17:48] the latter is a boost to all 64-bit apps though [17:48] nachox: err, XP definitely has pae [17:49] Camarade_Tux, sure? [17:49] and I think vista too [17:49] Camarade_Tux, nope - it supports NX through PAE [17:49] did i say otherwise? [17:49] It does not support > 4GB RAM through PAE [17:49] slackytude: ntkrnlpae.exe or something like that [17:49] pae is a ugly hack anyway [17:49] Server 2003 does support PAE with > 4GB RAM because the drivers have all been modified to accommodate it [17:49] slackytude, PAE is needed for NX to work ;-p [17:50] no execute bit? [17:50] get a 32bit computer with 2GB of memory, windows will create a 1.5*2GB pagefile.sys which means you know have 5GB of memory [17:50] http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B268363&x=18&y=15 [17:51] lol [17:51] even windows 2000 supports pae [17:51] looks like MS sever got slashdotted [17:51] anyway, really going to bed now [17:52] can anybody access http://microsoftontheissues.com/cs/blogs/mscorp/archive/2009/07/31/windows-7-and-browser-choice-in-europe.aspx [17:53] Camarade_Tux, gnight again [17:53] slackytude: I can't. [17:53] heh [17:53] nv4Phil (n=phil@adsl-163-13-42.pns.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] slackytude, yeps ^_^ [17:55] slackytude, PAE needs to be on to take advantage, due to extra VM needed [17:56] NthDegree, thats bad [17:56] no, it's normal and XP uses it by default XD [17:56] mishehu (n=mishehu@crosscreek.cartissolutions.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [17:58] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-245-139.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:58] slackytude, feel sorry for all the FreeBSD users who can't use NX if they have NVIDIA drivers ;) [17:58] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:59] as PAE can't be on and there's no 64-bit drivers xD [18:03] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [18:03] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: "What the hell?" [18:03] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [18:12] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-95-1-55.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] missyjane, http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/F%EAtes/0021.gif [18:14] sorru for the chipset [18:14] sorry [18:14] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] lool [18:15] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A774ED.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Success [18:16] Action: missyjane pet fredoslack [18:20] Action: winterx yawns [18:21] time for some c0ff3 [18:21] Action: andarius flicks a peanut in the open mouth [18:21] hihi [18:23] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:9b) joined ##slackware. [18:24] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-95-1-55.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:25] what other irc cliant is there? bitchX? or something? That would work on my apple II 40 column vt220. [18:25] irssi ? [18:25] jescis: irssi would work better [18:26] thumbs, I've tried that and it prints garbage [18:26] i use weechat... its close to irssi but with more features [18:27] Bassist (n=Bassist@mnch-5d8563d0.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [18:29] jescis, xchat [18:29] :) [18:29] weechat's user list is annoying [18:29] I'm thinking something that just displays text and nothing more [18:29] fredoslack, on an Apple II? [18:30] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:30] LinuxEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:30] for some channels is a must (channels with little poeple that you know) [18:30] higuita: I disagree [18:31] I too disagree. one can sit in all chans with irssi [18:32] thumbs, so how do I start irssi without getting garbage on my screen? [18:32] jescis: what would you consider garbage? [18:33] steiger, [7m:[26 [18:33] Action: jescis forgets the rest [18:33] jescis: you need to set TERM properly [18:34] thumbs, I fallowed dataswamp.nets instructions [18:34] SyncMaster (n=vincent@98.210.127.31) joined ##slackware. [18:35] thumbs, you mean this?: s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L ttyS0 9600 vt220 [18:35] e [18:36] jescis: does that system have termcap? [18:36] ok, is not "a must", but if i'm in a channel to talk with a couple of friends that might or not be online, its alot easier with the user-list [18:36] jescis: /set timestamps OFF [18:37] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:37] higuita: /names is a good thing [18:37] jescis: irssi is very customizable, just check the documentation for the neat options [18:37] mishehu (n=mishehu@crosscreek.cartissolutions.net) left ##slackware. [18:37] there's a welsh language linux distribution. hot. [18:37] yeah, higuita , /n is a lot cleaner than showing the nicklist all of the fucking time [18:38] Is there a best practice for dealing with the possibility of an openvpn client connecting to a network that uses the same subnet as the VPN? [18:38] i want the names list displayed only when *i want the names list* [18:38] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:39] [18:39] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@63.99.218.194) joined ##slackware. [18:40] antiwire: same network in the VPN (the p-to-p connection) or the client network is the same as the remote server network? [18:41] for the vpn, change the vpn network, you have several choices, use one that its almost impossible to be in use [18:41] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:42] for the client network=server network, create a route for the gateway and each server you need for your lan, and then connect to the vpn [18:42] you can use all other IPs from the server network except the gateway and the other servers you created the special route [18:44] higuita: My setup is using bridged mode so the client can be on any network out in the field and the LAN that the VPN provides access to is using 10.0.0.0/24 [18:44] so the client ends up being a part of whatever network they connect to + 10.0.0.0/24 [18:44] if they ever connect to another network that uses 10.0.0.0/24 i'll have a routing loop [18:44] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:45] okay so i'm following the how to, to create a slackbuild script and i'm unsaure about what to put for ARCH [18:45] shuold i leave it i486 or make i686 [18:46] and should i change it in the next piece too or what? [18:46] Chakravanti: if you don't know, leave it [18:46] k [18:46] http://www.slackwiki.org/Writing_A_SlackBuild_Script [18:46] yup [18:46] that's what im following [18:47] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [18:47] the template has many comments that explain that sort of thing too [18:47] Chakravanti: leave it i486. If the usr want to compile for a different $ARCH they can set it in their shells startup script [18:48] ok ic [18:48] BP{k}, >>> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0019.gif [18:48] hihihihi [18:48] Chakravanti: for example my shell has "ARCH=x86_64" [18:50] andarius: if you can change the remote network, so it not use a FULL class A, it would help :) [18:50] but anyway, that is the second case i described... [18:50] higuita: I don't have a network issue :P [18:50] tab complete + 1 [18:50] oops :) [18:50] sorry andarius :) [18:50] No worries [18:50] antiwire: read aboce :) [18:51] s/aboce/above/ [18:52] you may need to make a simples script that add the route for the default gw before connecting to the vpn, and doing so, you lose only the possiblity to connect to the remote server that uses the same IP as the gateway (usually not a problem, the gateways are .1 or .25x ips) [18:53] not in bridged mode [18:53] webbi (n=webi@190.247.202.227) joined ##slackware. [18:53] look at what i typed out too [18:53] hello [18:53] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@202.174.145.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:53] ello [18:54] steiger, should xon/xoff be enabled or disabled? [18:54] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@202.174.145.186) joined ##slackware. [18:54] i have a pc here which only have an ide cdrom and a sata hd... i boot with slackware 10.1 cdrom, but the sata drive isnt recognized... do i need to boot slack with any special parameter? [18:54] hey guys can some body tell me the kernel install steps on slackware 12.2 [18:54] i am using [18:54] make menuconfig [18:54] Channel flood from bnhashmi -- kicking [18:54] make bzImage modules [18:54] make modules_install [18:54] bnhashmi kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:55] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [18:55] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [18:55] May the mighty boot fly !! [18:55] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@202.174.145.186) joined ##slackware. [18:55] andarius: that's for me? [18:55] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] webbi: I am curious as to why you are installing 10.1 [18:55] The first was not to you [18:56] andarius: well... really it's the only that i have here, and i dont want to download the new one [18:56] If the client happens to connect to a 10.0.0.0/24 network and then tries to start the VPN to connect to the corporate LAN that also uses 10.0.0.0/24 there will be an address space collision [18:56] andarius: except that you tell me that the 12.1 have a very very need update [18:56] it doesn't matter what manual routes i try to change [18:56] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [18:56] andarius: and anyway, it should work right? [18:56] webbi: I don't understand what you just typed in. 12.2 is surely the preffered route [18:57] bnhashmi: you need to copy the new image to the boot dir and then update the lilo boot, i think [18:57] I don't recall 10.1 having sata support in the kernel [18:57] andarius: oh [18:57] i did [18:57] but nothing [18:57] andarius: but.... im sure that i installed it in a sata disk before [18:58] andarius: but... i will download then the latest release [18:58] Perhaps with the disk in legacy mode? I am not sure. I am surely not going to work through something like that considering 12.2 is out and 13 is on the horizon [18:58] bnhashmi: when you say: "I did" did you run /sbin/lilo afterwards? [18:58] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-18-254.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:58] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-175.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:59] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [18:59] antiwire: i also use bridge mode... [18:59] andarius: good point [18:59] higuita: so do you see what i'm getting at? [19:00] andarius: i dont remember, but i can download just 2 cd's from the 6 of slack 12 right? [19:00] Depends on what you need. You can get away with just one. [19:00] webbi: cd 3-6 are the source cd's, you most likely don't need them. [19:01] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:01] Action: andarius only DLs disk 1 [19:01] if the client ends having that situation there isn't a way for it to tell where to send packets. the only way I see if to change the corporate side subnet to something obscure, like oyu suggested [19:01] hey all [19:01] if/is [19:01] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:9b) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:01] BP{k}: great, i though that, but not sure.. i will download 2 then... [19:01] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] andarius, BP{k}: thanks for your help [19:01] antiwire: right now i'm connecting from a 10.42.42.0/24, via a 172.16.16.30/255.255.255.254, to a 192.168.1.0/24 network [19:01] Your welcome [19:02] during boot says not modules found for kernel [19:02] also not mount root fs [19:02] can some one guide me to any good how to for kernel [19:02] if my network were a 192.168.1.0/24, i would have a problem... [19:02] higuita: you have no address space conflict there anyway... [19:02] even it messed up with my old kernel and i reverted back using upgradepkg --reinstall kernel* [19:02] right [19:02] that's my whole point [19:02] yes i run lilo [19:03] Action: andarius recommends always adding a new image to the lilo config instead of editing the working one. That way you always have a fallback [19:03] higuita: is 172.16.16.30 your VPN subnet? [19:03] but what i tould you above is the soluction... if my network uses 192.168.1.254 as gateway, i just have to create a route add -host 192.168.1.254 dev eth0 [19:04] yes, its the p-to-p network, just for the openvpn [19:04] higuita: my bridge setup operates differently [19:04] oops... sorry, i'm not in bridge [19:04] right you are routing [19:04] bad example :) [19:04] i;m bridging [19:05] so routing mods won't make a difference in this case [19:05] bnhashmi: you should read a bit about how lilo config file works, so you always add the new image without lost the old one, by that way you can make all necessaries changes until you got exactly what you want [19:05] i have another with bridge... but the problem and the solution is the same, play with the routing table [19:06] its a Dell PowerEdge SC 1435 having 24GB ram and i am trying to enable hugemem support [19:07] you will have after connection 2 routes for the same network using diferent interfaces, you have to manually fix it by adding route add -host for each IP you still need to work in the client network (gateway is required, all other optional) [19:07] It is still best for you to switch to slamd64 or slackware-current [19:08] webi: i did lilo gud new kernel boots it mean lilo dont have problem but during boot its stuck no modules found for this kernel [19:08] antiwire: after connecting, the last route will take over the orginal one, so only the manual host routes allow you to keep using the client network [19:09] higuita: there is still an address space conflict [19:09] what if the unsecured network that the client is on contains addresses that are being used in the same address space as the corporate network? [19:11] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] bnhashmi: did you do a make modules_install after you built your kernel? [19:11] antiwire: there is no magic bullet here... if you have same IP in use in both networks, you will be able to access only one of then, there is no workaround to that... you need to change to routing vpn and probably a NAT firewall [19:12] higuita: Ok, that right there is what I sort of expected [19:12] quasar: yes [19:12] You've confirmed that I'm not totally out there [19:12] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:13] that is why vpn usually are routing, they are easier to control for road warriors... for net2net, bridge is more used, but then, you control both networks, or at least, know exactly what you have [19:13] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [19:13] i used make menuconfig make bzImage modules make modules_install [19:13] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] jkr (n=jkr@ti0017a380-0412.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [19:14] Nick change: jkr -> Nimor [19:14] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [19:14] and are the modules under /lib/modules/$(uname -r) ? [19:15] yup they are in /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp [19:15] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:16] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.9.134) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:17] SyncMaster (n=vincent@98.210.127.31) left irc: "Leaving" [19:18] andarius: hahaha im an asshole... i have slack 12.1 [19:18] andarius: i dont need to download 12.2 i think [19:18] andarius: what you think? [19:18] 12.1 has sata built in [19:20] RJz0r (n=taterz@lawlz.net) left irc: "Changing server" [19:21] RJz0r (n=taterz@lawlz.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] andarius: yes [19:25] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [19:25] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] sluttyduck (n=slut@NW1-DSL-208-102-247-137.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] paissad_ (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] andarius: yeah, it's working fine... nice! i love slack... a lot of time without using it [19:32] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [19:33] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Don't follow me" [19:36] thumbs, I see no .bashrc file in my home directory. Where can I find the TERM variable? [19:37] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:40] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:41] I just added XOrg and KDE to my SLackware 12.2 installation. I ran xwmconfig and selected KDE. Now, when I start KDE with "startx" the default desktop icons are missing, the default things like Klipper aren't running, and the program lists in the KDE menu are empty/. [19:41] I installed X, XAP, and KDE. 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[20:03] Topic changed on ##slackware by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.60.185: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 12.2 Released December 9, 2008 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: httpd,bind | -current is now 13.0rc1 | new official port: ARMedslack [20:04] guys, in case, you havent noticed, the httpd package was updated recently to fix several security issues [20:04] so UPDATE your slackware if you use it [20:04] Action: BP{k} just finished doing that :) [20:09] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl10-182-197.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [20:10] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.128.137.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:10] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.128.137.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:11] re [20:12] hello [20:12] slackware-security list sent out an advisory for bind on 2009-07-30, but its not listed here http://slackware.com/security/list.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009 [20:12] what's it say? [20:12] ``Bind is uevil, switch to netcat'' [20:13] it says http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-0696 [20:13] wow really? [20:13] :> [20:18] btw that bind issue is nasty [20:19] I tested it on my own systems [20:19] it is [20:20] I compiled httpd from source on my slackware servers. [20:20] how many you got? [20:20] 10-12 [20:21] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:21] nice; i have almost two. [20:21] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [20:21] you doin the beowulf thing? [20:21] no, they are in separate data centers. [20:22] ah [20:22] rented boxes? [20:22] some, yes. [20:22] kool [20:22] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-115-167-17.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] thumbs: distcc? [20:23] amazon10x: nah [20:23] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.17.194.198) joined ##slackware. [20:24] some sort of bash distributor of commands? [20:24] thumbs, why? [20:24] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Client Quit [20:25] nachox: because I wanted specific paths, amongst other things, and I compiled my own packages. [20:25] i think he means he compiled it individually on each of his servers [20:26] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) joined ##slackware. [20:26] geraldoav (n=geraldoa@187.42.8.77) joined ##slackware. [20:27] as long as he made a package that can be distributed among his servers, it's fine if he compiled it in EVERY server, he wasted a lot of time [20:27] nachox: of course I re-used the package. [20:28] nachox: php was also recompiled as a package. [20:29] Action: nachox is a fan of precompiled packages [20:29] i therefore think gentoo is a waste of time :P [20:30] nachox: right, except when the ./configure didn't have the option I needed. [20:30] ? [20:30] nachox: you are still oped [20:30] ops [20:30] ##slackware: mode change '-o nachox' by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.60.185 [20:31] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.175.237) joined ##slackware. [20:31] hello linux brotherz [20:31] elsheepo (n=sheep@97-115-167-17.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] http://forum.grasscity.com/advanced-grow-journals/355213-first-hydro-grow-1000w-4.html [20:31] I am on console I cannot click your link :P [20:32] its ok i was sending it to myself in the other room [20:32] I am chatting on console, listening to opeth.. like it is 1998 [20:32] ban time [20:32] its my friend down in SD's medical grow-op [20:32] that's some OT forum spamming [20:32] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:32] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*n=sheep@97-115-167-17.spkn.qwest.net' by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.60.185 [20:32] elsheepo kicked from ##slackware by nachox: nachox [20:33] i will not allow that in here [20:33] as it should be [20:33] I cant post a link to myself here? [20:33] ##slackware: mode change '-o nachox' by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.60.185 [20:34] not that link [20:34] ?// [20:34] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] to a legal, medical marijuana garden? [20:34] Action: thrice` rolls his eyes [20:34] or to its post on a fourm? [20:35] no, not even to a "legal, medical marijuana garden" [20:35] I feel betrayed [20:35] -_- [20:36] and i will not argue about this either, if you dont like it, there are other slackware channel [20:36] user39683759 (n=ldfkjhfs@adsl-76-235-51-38.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] wow.... [20:36] peace [20:36] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-115-167-17.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:37] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Nick change: error_de1eloper_ -> errordeveloper [20:38] Action: quasar sighs and downloads httpd-2.2.12.tar.gz [20:38] i am a peaceful man, that's why i just banned and kicked him instead of insulting him, and then banning and kicking [20:39] right on dude [20:39] that is pretty peaceful either way... I would've just banned him then insulted him.. let 'em leave on his own :) [20:39] nachox is mean ;_; [20:39] ban them all, let god sort em out [20:40] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.50) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [20:41] hehe, rworkman, love those facebook quotes [20:41] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-247-133.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] where can i download slackware -current ? i can't seem to find it on the official site [20:42] deco, all the slackware current isos are unofficial [20:42] deco: any of the mirrors should have it. [20:42] "-current" isn't officially published on media. slackware.no contains unofficial install media, otherwise the tree exists on any mirror [20:42] obie thrice! no name, no gimmicks [20:42] nachox: fortune ftw :) [20:43] deco: http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/slackware-mirrors.shtml [20:43] BP{k}: Thank you very much! :-) [20:44] user39683759 (n=ldfkjhfs@adsl-76-235-51-38.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [20:45] http://www.slackware.com/getslack [20:46] i got slack! [20:46] 12.2 baby! [20:47] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [20:47] distro[Slackware 13.0.0.0.0] [20:47] omg [20:48] current [20:48] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [20:50] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-247-133.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:51] :O [20:53] dios_mio, you don't get an ISO for it [20:54] oh well [20:54] You download the packages and install them via USB/PXE or upgrade to it directly [20:54] I see [20:54] geraldoav (n=geraldoa@187.42.8.77) left irc: "Leaving" [20:54] I installed it via USB for Slack64 [20:54] cool [20:56] You can just build your own ISO [20:57] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@zentoo.cc) joined ##slackware. [20:57] webbi (n=webi@190.247.202.227) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:59] im a crab [20:59] oh no the crabs are here [21:00] Action: edman007 makes nix_chix0r into crab cakes [21:00] sunblock still burnt to crisp [21:00] god crablegs? [21:00] 6hrs down the river on a tub was fun though [21:00] /s/god/got [21:01] got a nice farmers tan from my tanktop and bottoms [21:01] bobJR (n=bob@adsl-153-104-205.tys.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:01] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-195.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:01] well that ain't bad [21:01] just cold aloe and a ice cold shower [21:01] glow in the dark boobs:P [21:02] StasiProto (n=StasiPro@75.138.78.87) joined ##slackware. [21:02] bobJR (n=bob@adsl-153-104-205.tys.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] boobs is good. glow in the dark is good addon [21:03] won't need the glow worm tonight! i just gota take my shirt off [21:03] No caffeine: Day 4 [21:03] awesome [21:03] Still not happy about it but also not feeling like opening fire anymore. [21:04] not bad [21:04] Night guys. [21:04] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-27-167.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:07] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-175.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:07] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:09] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] antiwire: try teine [21:10] damn, that's the same [21:10] ... [21:10] theine [21:11] switch from one legal habit forming substance to another? [21:11] lol [21:11] tea is more lite [21:11] you mean tea [21:11] ok [21:11] black tea is just as bad as far as caffeine goes [21:12] try green or white tea [21:12] I did that pre stoppage [21:12] to wind down [21:12] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.104.106) joined ##slackware. [21:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:4c2:3ab0:42e0:de7b) joined ##slackware. [21:14] i just watched Trinity And Beyond - The Atomic Bomb Movie ( [21:14] i have that [21:14] it's pretty cool [21:14] and went loling after the last part [21:14] "nuclear playboys" [21:14] haha [21:15] antiwire: for your fingerprint reader besides pam, you used thinkfinger correct? [21:15] chopp: yes [21:16] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:19) joined ##slackware. [21:16] antiwire: alright thanks. Once the laptop arrives, I'll shout at you again for some advice. :) [21:16] cool [21:17] while seeing thise chinese people mixing their nuclear exposion test with nuclear battlefield exercise on horses with gas mascs and riders with some swords ... [21:17] those* [21:18] that was pretty fucking artistic [21:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431640.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:21] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:24] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [21:26] good gosh. Thunderbird spell checker suggests I change "craigslist" to "racialists" [21:26] that would be bad. [21:26] Slightly [21:27] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.17.194.198) left irc: "leaving" [21:28] claws-mail suggests crackliest for craigslist. [21:29] lol [21:30] http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3269/29962186.jpg fuck me [21:31] hey all [21:31] hey gtl [21:31] fire|bird, how's it going, buddy? [21:31] their nuke exploded just a few minutes earlier near by [21:31] hey [21:31] gtl: going great, thanks. you? [21:31] doing ok, thanks =) [21:32] antiwire: Thunderbird 3 is looking nice, but it's still just in beta, I like the tabbed interface they have for it. [21:33] i need some help with xulrunner [21:33] man, ripping a compressing a 3 hour movie takes a long time, [21:34] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:4c2:3ab0:42e0:de7b) left irc: Connection timed out [21:34] duh [21:35] antiwire: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Caffeinated_spiderwebs.jpg [21:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] burger time fresh off the grill [21:37] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:37] and beer? [21:37] I am not sure if I want to use the PSU core with dvd::rip [21:39] burgertime was a good old arcade game [21:40] i had that game [21:40] I rocked it too [21:40] silvergold (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [21:41] Orion (n=Orion7@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] hey [21:44] can anyone point me to directions on how to add yourself to the visuo file [21:45] A_666_A (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:45] A_666_A (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:45] man visudo and man sudoers [21:46] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:47] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.175.237) left irc: "leaving" [21:48] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:48] man sudoers is a mess and visudo doesn't provide much in the way of what to put in the file [21:49] visudo says exactly what to put in [21:49] just uncomment the line for the wheel group [21:49] and add yourself to that group [21:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:53] Nick change: silvergold -> fire|bird [21:53] amazon10x: thanks [21:53] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) joined ##slackware. [21:55] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [21:58] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-212-060.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:01] yxie (n=yxie@60.247.97.97) joined ##slackware. [22:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@zentoo.cc) left irc: "Leaving" [22:02] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:02] do I need to restart anything for this to take effect? [22:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] try using a sudo'd command [22:05] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.128.137.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [22:06] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:06] Orion, sudo -l will list what you can do with sudo [22:06] also, there are plenty of online tutorials to configure sudo [22:07] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:08] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-71-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:29] ricardobarbosa__ (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:4c2:3ab0:42e0:de7b) joined ##slackware. [22:29] hiptobecubic: vim is much better [22:29] :) [22:29] hiptobecubic: getting fed up with :wq lines in your geany documents? :P [22:30] thumbs, I don't know. I've been really liking geany [22:30] BP{k}, yes actually. [22:30] while geany is not bad, {g,}vim is better [22:30] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.60.185) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:33] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*n=sheep@97-115-167-17.spkn.qwest.net expired. [22:33] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*n=sheep@97-115-167-17.spkn.qwest.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:34] Dominian, not by choice? [22:34] nv4Phil (n=phil@adsl-163-13-42.pns.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:34] or you just can't afford the 6-core? [22:35] edman007: board went bad [22:35] edman007: haha yeah that's right! [22:35] :D [22:36] losher (n=chatzill@c-24-5-85-178.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060309]" [22:39] edman007: but.. the good thing is.. I'll have an 8800GTS, quad-core with virtualization ability.. 4GB of ram.. new PSU.. [22:40] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:19) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:41] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [22:41] hi [22:41] 'lo [22:41] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:44] slKIvs (n=ivan@112.81.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [22:45] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:46] :) [22:47] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:48] another satisfied slacker [22:49] Nick change: ClaudioMeppard -> ClaudioM [22:50] ricardobarbosa__ (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:4c2:3ab0:42e0:de7b) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:52] what? who? [22:53] you, I was guessing - came into ##slackware and smiled, so I figured all was right with the world :) [22:53] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [22:54] hows that LFS working? [22:55] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Client Quit [22:55] lol [22:55] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [22:55] hm, "another satisfied scratcher" doesn't have quite the same ring to it... [22:55] quasar, so so, i should resume soon but im in an internet forum debate and thats more important - I MUST WIN [22:55] rofl sounds about right [22:55] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [22:55] oblig xkcd - "someone on the internet is *wrong*!" [22:57] XD [22:57] its true [22:57] esp if they dont source their shit, esp if they cant use credible source [22:58] yep - I'll source mine, to correct my misquote ;) http://xkcd.com/386/ [22:59] sounds like my mom when she's calling me at 2am asking questions about WoW -_- [22:59] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] xD [23:00] I'm not ever touching WoW after I saw that video of the kid freaking out [23:00] awww [23:00] after he got his WoW cancelled [23:00] I use to pay for my brother's subscription... [23:00] wow sucks btw, warcraft stole from warhammer [23:00] I'm glad he didnt freak out when I didnt feel like paying for it anymore [23:00] the zombie stunt last halloween pissed me off [23:01] I have two accounts myself but I haven't touched them in 3-4 months (one for the kids) [23:01] i was a casual gamer and some dorks made it impossible for my team to complete a quest [23:01] nothing like wasting a couple of evenings being continually turned into zombies and dying [23:02] wsp4th (n=wperry@c-75-66-183-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:03] redtricycle: I always question those type videos, especially if it's happening in the kid's room.. a lot of them seem set up but I could definitely see it happening, not with my kids though lol [23:05] pi31415: sounds like you were playing at a bad time.. that was the invasion of the scourge right before WoTLK was released [23:06] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:06] Blizzard ended up "fixing" that somehow.. /shrug I stayed away from the major cities and didn't have any problems lol [23:09] quasar, no some are real, some are setup [23:13] Neo_The_LFS (n=matrix@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] damnit [23:13] vim [23:13] oh I agree, I just get more of a feeling that they're fake when there's a video camera set up in a kid's room [23:13] Action: entersandman is away: sleep [23:13] entersandman: turn that off [23:14] ut ohs! [23:14] quick question. when i install slack64 to my HDD, can I stay up-to-date with 64-current via slackpkg? [23:14] yes [23:14] yes [23:14] ohh nice [23:14] yeah i'd hate to reburn. awesome thanks all! [23:14] Neo_The_LFS, just set the mirror [23:14] Neo_The_LFS : just make sure to read the changelog :) [23:15] of coarse [23:15] Action: thumbs kicks entersandman [23:15] i love that song by metallica [23:15] I dislike that user. [23:15] Enter night! Exit light! [23:15] which user? [23:15] nvm [23:16] im just slow [23:16] does anyone else find the away message from that nick ironic? [23:16] what one? [23:16] what away msg? [23:16] (10:13:44p)[Action] entersandman is away: sleep [23:16] 23:13 * entersandman is away: sleep [23:16] hahaha [23:17] thats funnt [23:17] *funny [23:17] aint it? [23:18] 1 more question. when slackware 13.0 (full version) comes out, can i update to that via slackpkg? [23:18] yep [23:18] current is 13 right now [23:18] NO WAI!!! [23:18] right i know [23:18] well 13-rc1 [23:18] so set your mirror to 13 when that becomes available and there you go [23:18] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-71-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:18] damn [23:19] Thunbs you don't know me [23:19] sluttyduck (n=slut@NW1-DSL-208-102-247-137.fuse.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:19] mishehu (i=1000@cshells.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] entersandman: I don't care. I dislike away messages. Turn it off. [23:19] oh 1 more question actually. can i install slack 12.2 (32-bit) then update to 32-bit current? [23:19] .... 'sluttyduck' [23:19] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.104.106) left irc: "‚»" [23:20] if so, how? what do i change in the mirror file? i know where the file is located but what do i change the utah mirror to? [23:20] Neo_The_LFS: there are already 13 mirrors commented out [23:20] geraldoav (n=geraldoa@187.43.11.144) joined ##slackware. [23:20] 13.0 mirrors * [23:20] from 12.2 at the end of the link, to -current, to 12-current or to 12.2-current? and the -current mirror isnt commented [23:21] this isn't rocket science; 12.2 is for 12.2, -current is for -current, and -13.0 will be for... any guess? [23:21] Neo_The_LFS, there are predefined mirrors for 12.2, -current, and -13.0 [23:21] hmm i dont see them in the file [23:21] Neo_The_LFS: perhaps you need to update it, then. [23:22] i ran slackpkg update-all or whatever [23:22] and it installed like 6 new updates [23:22] Neo_The_LFS, as -current or as 12.2 ? [23:22] Action: entersandman is away: does not have time to deal with the whiney man child known as thumbs [23:22] 12.2 [23:22] entersandman: be nice [23:22] entersandman: it's actually a channel rule [23:23] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:23] entersandman: wait, you're looking to be banned, too? [23:23] hiptobecubic, 12.2 [23:23] hi fire|bird:) [23:23] thumbs: he must be. that we he can get safely tucked in by his mommy ;) [23:23] fire|bird: howdy :) [23:23] hi hitest, how are you? [23:23] howdy BP{k}, how goes? [23:23] I don't know if 12.2 would have it. [23:23] fire|bird: hey member me? [23:23] I am well, fire|bird, you? [23:23] and what is a man child? [23:23] fire|bird: pretty good. you? [23:23] which is why i asked for the mirror link [23:24] Neo_The_LFS: yup. :P [23:24] hitest: doing great, thanks. [23:24] ! hiptobecub [23:24] e [23:24] ic [23:24] Channel flood from Neo_The_LFS -- kicking [23:24] whatever [23:24] Neo_The_LFS kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:24] BP{k}: doing great, thank you. [23:24] :D [23:24] haha [23:24] lol [23:24] Neo_The_LFS (n=matrix@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] that was excellent. [23:24] wb [23:24] Neo_The_LFS: good work. :P [23:25] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:25] ok sorry umm... anybody have the full link i can copy and paste into my 12.2 installation mirror file? -current (32-bit) is what im looking for. utah mirror too [23:25] USA [23:25] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:25] wow, this plane was close: http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/cenciotti/Tornado/Tornado_low-pass.jpg [23:25] pireau_ (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [23:26] Neo_The_LFS: seriously, just change slackware-12.2 to slackware-current [23:26] slak (n=slak@unaffiliated/slak) joined ##slackware. [23:26] and when 13.0 is out, you'll change slackware-current to slackware-13.0 [23:26] thrice`: thats it?????? [23:26] hey everybody [23:26] thrice`: ok like... man.. you are cool. thank you [23:26] slak: HI BUDDY!! [23:27] fire|bird: holy .. that is nice show. [23:27] Action: Neo_The_LFS installs -current [23:27] BP{k}: yeah, too bad I wasn't at that one. :P [23:27] lol [23:27] thrice`: you saved my life. seriously. like.... you saved my... LIFE!! [23:28] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:29] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "peace" [23:29] o'rly? [23:29] so technically, slackware is a rolling distro cuz u can update without using another disc like Shitbuntu :) [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] *unlike [23:30] rworkman: r u there? [23:30] slak: use me instead [23:30] how can i help you? [23:30] Neo_The_LFS: yeah, slack is considered a rolling release. There isn't a set date for each release, it's just released when it's ready. [23:30] nice [23:31] the way linux is meant to be [23:31] fire|bird: i don't think rolling release means what you think it means [23:31] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:31] amazon10x: no fire|bird is always right. everybody shall bow down before him [23:31] Neo_The_LFS: if you run -current, yes [23:31] have you guys heard of "roller derby" [23:32] rie thaz whatz i meanz [23:32] right*, that's*, what*, mean* [23:32] hahaha! [23:32] BP{k}: watcha doing? [23:32] slak: stop pinging everybody :( [23:32] slak: sorry? [23:33] BP{k}: just being sure if u were afk [23:34] slak: and why do you want to know? [23:34] slak: /whois [23:35] BP{k}: you usually answer questions with questions? [23:35] slak: why ask pointless questions? [23:35] thumbs: <3 BP{k} [23:36] good night, folks:) [23:36] night hitest [23:36] night hitest [23:36] night fire|bird, slak [23:36] omg fire|bird im sucking up your lucky to me [23:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:39] Hmm, interesting, I just was messing around with Thunderbird 3b3 and if you open a new message to send, if you click options and quote message, it puts whatever message is selected in thunderbird into the new message. :P [23:39] Vim is pretty difficult to use once you move beyond basic editing [23:39] antiwire: fire|bird: Sweet, i jumped 4 times today. Got some new pics of me landing. Looks like i am squatting to take a dump. :P [23:40] agentc0re: haha. 4 times eh? had a good time then I assume? [23:41] does -current ever vanish? [23:41] Neo_The_LFS: no. [23:41] you type fast [23:41] I thought that off topic was *not* allowed here in the channel... [23:41] thumbs: you still there? [23:41] entersandman: why? [23:41] slak: im on topic!!! [23:42] thumbs: My apologies for the whiney man child comment I could have handled that in a better way. [23:42] entersandman: fine. [23:42] entersandman: you'll piss off a lot more people, and get a ban if an op catches you using that script. [23:42] slak: I believe that would be up to the OPs of the channel to what is/isn't on-topic [23:42] i mean if a bunch of guys come to a slackware channel to talk about happiness and personal stuff ... why dont they just open a pvt window and do it [23:42] entersandman: better disable it [23:43] thumbs:thank you for the notice [23:43] slak: If there's nothing else really going on in the channel, some offtopic stuff is allowed, however if there is someone(s) receiving ontopic help, then it is polite for the offtopic conversations to subside while someone is receiving help. [23:43] fire|bird: I did :) i did a "Hop and Pop". It was my last jump and it's where you jump out at 3,500 feet. [23:44] agentc0re: nice. Weather must have been really good today? [23:44] agentc0re: so when you're starting on halo jumps? [23:44] ;) [23:45] i h8 halo! [23:45] SONY FTW! [23:45] agentc0re: When are you going to pull a Travis Pastrana and just jump without a chute? :P [23:46] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:46] Neo_The_LFS: I have both a Xbox360 and PS2. :P [23:46] ps2? [23:46] thats the old age [23:46] PS3 [23:47] Neo_The_LFS: not when you can't afford one. I won the Xbox360 in a sweepstakes and the PS2 was given to me. :D [23:47] geraldoav (n=geraldoa@187.43.11.144) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:50] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:4c2:3ab0:42e0:de7b) joined ##slackware. [23:51] I've thought a couple times of buying a broken one on ebay (usually around $5-20) and trying to repair it [23:51] fire|bird: antiwire: http://learnix.net/2009/08/todays-skydive-landings/ [23:51] BP{k}: LOL [23:52] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:b5) joined ##slackware. [23:53] Action: entersandman is away: disable [23:53] sucks [23:53] thing is acting weird [23:53] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-51-38.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] brb [23:54] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [23:54] Why is it hjkl and not jkl; ? Do you normally move your hand over one key or just do double duty with your pointer finger? [23:55] agentc0re: nice. :) [23:55] agentc0re: nice shots :) [23:55] BP{k}: Thanks dude! [23:56] That squat pic kills me though. [23:56] hehe. [23:56] could be how a sumo lands. [23:56] entersandman (n=puppy@adsl-65-43-230-164.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net) left ##slackware ("tactical retreat"). [23:56] agentc0re: yeah, but a sumo might leave a crack in the ground. :P [23:57] How do you know i didn't? [23:57] ;) [23:57] entersandman (n=puppy@adsl-65-43-230-164.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] agentc0re: hahaha [23:58] agentc0re: dont you have a footage? [23:58] hiptobecubic: the ADM3A keyboard had arrow keys on the hjkl keys and it was post-rationalized into being the "home row advantage" [23:58] does Old_Fogie come around anymore? [23:58] slak: it's in my brain... do you have a mental imaging machine? :D [23:59] too lazy to search the logs tonight [23:59] as far as typing, however you type. [23:59] dtanner: I haven't seen him in months. [23:59] slakmagik, oh. [23:59] agentc0re: dont you have a footage? I mean on your parachuting [23:59] so scoot the hand over or pointer double duty [23:59] dtanner: no, he hasn't been around for a while. [00:00] --- Mon Aug 3 2009