[00:01] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.16.53) joined ##slackware. [00:01] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:01] wescotte: mdadm -E -s [00:02] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:02] person (~ed@92.9.246.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:02] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:03] macavity: no output.. nothing new in dmesg [00:03] also tried with -v [00:03] ok, it is simply flat out not finding it [00:03] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Look!! Its a giant groundhog with fangs and a laptop running linux !! [00:03] you are on stock 13.0, right? [00:03] macavity: yes [00:03] macius (~macius@i209-195-64-221.cia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:04] cyb3r3li0g (~3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] what kernel version does flimbibuntu use? [00:04] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:04] checking.. [00:05] wescotte, did you build the module ? [00:06] macavity: i scrolled up a bit, is he trying to activate a dmraid0 with mdadm? i thought those were different tools. [00:06] hah stupid vmlinuz not labeled.. any tricks to finding it? or just boot the damn thing? The web page says Ubuntu 9.10 Beta includes the 2.6.31-11.36 kernel based on 2.6.31.1. [00:06] jeev: no.. [00:06] uname -a [00:06] ? [00:06] wescotte: uname [00:06] lol [00:06] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:06] agentc0re: some windows raid [00:06] yeah but I have to boot that kernel [00:06] I'm in slack right now.. [00:06] uname -r [00:07] How was this raid recreated? [00:07] are you using your motherboards onboard controller to do it? [00:07] agentc0re: yes.. created in my RAID BIOS.. [00:07] also, that ubuntu loads that module does not mean it is needed [00:07] wescotte, just build the mod in the kernel and modprobe it [00:08] see what it says [00:08] wescotte: Okay, i contributed to a post on LQ about this a long time ago. [00:08] agentc0re: It's my windows partition which works.. Ubuntu can mount it with ntfs-3g.. slack can't.. [00:08] that module *is* built in.. [00:08] is there a way to add a user to one group without rewriting the entire group list? [00:08] it's =y.. Is there any reason to make it a =m? [00:08] wescotte: thats because you need to use dmraid and that isn't included in slackware. [00:08] Reticenti: gpasswd [00:09] agentc0re: aha.. [00:09] thanks macavity [00:09] wescotte: word of advice... ditch that shit. [00:09] ah fuck [00:09] :D [00:09] agentc0re: ditch what? [00:09] ive been pwned by mdraid and dmraid *again* [00:10] agentc0re: dmraid? [00:10] wescotte: the on board raid stuff is bad juju imo. raids are specific to that motherboard. if it dies or you upgrade, have fun not recovering your data. [00:11] when you add a module, it shows it in dmesg. [00:11] agentc0re: ah.. well in this case I don't care as it's just tons of video footage for editing.. If I loose it I have masters and backups.. I just need max performance.. [00:11] myt houghts would be to see if anything shows up [00:11] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] not to mention that the linux software raid quite often has better performance than the cheep onboard stuff [00:11] then again if it's built into the kernel, it should show up anyawy [00:11] wescotte: http://urlg.in/1wv [00:11] agentc0re: his problem is that windows dont read linux software raid :P [00:12] macavity: Ya.. i think at that point i'd ditch windows being on a raid and make a separate space where i'd save stuff that both distro's could see. [00:12] I'm not even bothering to put linux on a raid.. I just want to be able to read my windows partitions in linux so I can use ffmpeg to encode stuff [00:13] I can't ditch Windows :( at least not yet.. [00:13] wescotte: i'm not saying to do that. [00:13] oh misread [00:13] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [00:13] just a seccond.. wescotte "which dmsetup"? [00:14] wescotte: if it's possible(i know it can be tricky to do this because you will need a temp holding place) reinstall windows on a none raid partition. Then setup another partition that is a raid0 that is just to store stuff on. [00:15] macavity: /sbin/dmsetup [00:15] agentc0re: how is that any different? it'll still be NTFS right? [00:15] agentc0re: I can easily put windows on another partition/drive non raid.. I need the raid0 partition as that is where I'm storing all my video footage [00:16] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [00:16] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:16] wescotte: i cant give you an easy one-liner for dmsetup [00:17] wescotte: but it is apparently that tool you need to use [00:17] wescotte: something with "dmsetup mknodes $MUMBOJUMO" [00:17] if i read the manpage right [00:18] person (~ed@92.8.204.248) joined ##slackware. [00:18] hmm.. i wonder what kintchensinkbuntu does to auto generate that stuff [00:19] macavity: no output.. nothing in dmesg.. nothing with -v either :0 [00:19] nothing in /dev called MUMBOJUMO.. [00:19] LOL [00:20] what is the raid controler on you mobo called? [00:20] and do you know what the driver for it is called? [00:20] it has a few :) [00:20] which is why I'm even more confused.. [00:21] troys (~troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] person (~ed@92.8.204.248) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:22] anyhow, i think agentc0re got us on the right track [00:23] it is a dm device, not an md device [00:23] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:23] dyslexia sucks.. its not the first time i've been screwed by that naming convention [00:24] It has 3 raid controllers [00:24] O_O [00:24] time to go pick the machine appart, and study the numbers on the chips, and look them up :P [00:24] btw, i could see from the dmesg that its a pretty nice machine :P [00:24] Intel ICH10R is what the drives are currently attached to [00:25] binari0 (~dorany@190.80.152.192) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [00:25] hm. ahci raid should freaking work.. [00:26] then it is probably just a matter of mastering dmsetup [00:26] 2nd controller is Marvel 9128 chip and 3rd is some PATA that supports it.. althought that might just be the same ICH10R. [00:26] Actually.. the bios has differnet modes.. SATA/AHCI/RAID [00:27] I believe it's set to RAID.. Try AHCI? [00:27] that *could* hose the data... [00:27] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:27] that's okay if it does nothing on there important yet.. However I think I changed it before and it didn't.. but I never booted into slack.. just windows [00:27] its been years since i played with this... [00:28] I just wish I knew wtf I was doing :) [00:28] oh, me too :P [00:28] heh [00:28] is there a way I can tell if Ubuntu is using a dm or md device? [00:29] inspect dmesg and syslog [00:29] k. I'll switch BIOS settting and if it still doesn't ork I'll jump back into Ubuntu.. [00:29] pull their initrd appart and see what magic it does [00:29] i dont think that will do shit [00:29] I couldn't get to it cuz it's symlink is broke when you use a live CD for soemt reason.. [00:29] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] what won't do shit? [00:30] BIOS? [00:30] ya [00:30] is this latest *buntu? [00:31] yup 9.10 [00:32] kernel version 2.6.31 [00:32] Well, when I set it to AHCI Windows wont boot normally cuz the bios doens't see the raid anymore.. says boot order is disk0 disk1 disk2 instead of the combined disk like before.. let's see what Slack sees [00:33] though i slightly doubt it, that *could* be it... otoh, it might just be us doornobs who need to rtfm on dmsetup [00:33] then I'll boot Ubuntu again and attempt to figure out if it's dm/md [00:33] it is dm all right [00:33] this time i tripple checked :P [00:33] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:34] mdadm is for linux-kernel-software-raid only [00:34] heh the man page for dmsetup doesn't seem too complicated.. I just dunno shit about raid so that doesn't help :) [00:34] in the dmesg.. sdb does not get its partition table recognized.. but sbc does [00:35] so, pointing dmsetup to those two might be a start [00:35] that fits the bill on how you set it up, right? [00:35] hmm dmesg says md: raid0 personality registerd for level 0.. [00:35] i know [00:36] it says so on mine too [00:36] mine is a laptop with one drive :P [00:36] its just the built in driver that registers [00:36] on mine a has it's partition table recognized but b doesn't [00:36] oh, i misremembered [00:36] then try those two.. [00:37] and btw, google when linux saw support for ICH10R [00:37] it would be rather lame to bang our head against it if it shows up that a kernel upgrade makes it outodetect :P [00:37] mtkoan (mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:38] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:38] person (~ed@92.21.41.229) joined ##slackware. [00:38] Ubuntu uses 2.6.30 I Think too :) [00:38] it is either of the two... support or rtfm [00:38] yes it does [00:38] but it probably had all sorts of shit shoehorned back into it [00:38] they do that [00:39] so even if .31 was the first to support ICH10R, their .30 might also have it [00:39] true.. [00:40] i so dont trust the 2.6.x.47 style kernels :P [00:40] dissociative (alejandro@adsl190-28-67-196.epm.net.co) left ##slackware. [00:41] just because git can merge your grand mother with a T-rex doesnt mean the semantics didnt subtly change [00:41] and now i need to crash... [00:41] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] happy reading :-) [00:42] macavity (~macavity@212088073002.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:42] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] person (~ed@92.21.41.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:43] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:44] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [00:44] troys (~troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:46] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:47] what would be most secure partition layout? [00:48] for desktop and or server [00:49] Chameleon: What do you mean? [00:50] >/boot [00:50] >/ [00:50] >/usr [00:50] etc. [00:51] oh.. I'm lazy and I put it all in one spot.. I dunno if it's really any less secure though [00:52] depends on what you are securing it against [00:53] well for a server i was told to make the i think it was /var on own partition cuz you could get someone to flood it with files or some crap [00:55] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:56] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:56] depends on how you log things, but partition layout is more of a usage issue than a security issue [00:57] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [00:57] typically I setup 1=boot (1G) 2=/ (20-60G), 3=swap (4-8G), 4=/home (rest) [00:57] 1G for /boot? Talk about overkill [00:58] I use /boot for keeping stuff between upgrades, like config files for tunnels and vpn stuff since I usually don't format /boot, but do format root [00:58] helps remove the cruft [00:59] person (~ed@92.23.107.34) joined ##slackware. [00:59] besides, when you have 750G-1T drives, a little exra for spare kernels and keeper stuff never hurts [01:00] is there some where that can give me some ideas [01:00] it's mainly a matter of thinking how you want your setup and knowing what files are kept where [01:00] that is waht i need to look at [01:01] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [01:01] you can get some ideas with the slackbook and slackwiki in the installation and setup [01:01] what files are keped where [01:01] acidtripper (~gonza@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [01:01] ok thank you [01:01] read the slackbook on system administration [01:01] wescotte: seems like the dmraid and link helped you out? get it sorted? [01:01] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:01] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [01:01] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:02] alisonken1home: is new slackbook version ready? [01:02] probably not. [01:02] Phonon patch for utf-8 solved problems i was having with kde apps while playing some music [01:03] so upgrading solved, now upgrading to current, lot of updates i see :P [01:03] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [01:05] agentc0re: working on it still.. dmraid itself doesn't seem to play nice with --prefix and --libdir :) [01:05] acidtripper: although the new version is still in progress last I heard, it's still usefull for what Chameleon wants [01:06] agentc0re: It works.. It's just trying to make it nice and neat into a package first.. [01:07] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [01:07] cyb3r3li0g (~3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:07] yes, sure it will help, i only was asking in order to know if there is any important new related ;) [01:07] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:07] my partition layout is always / and swap. [01:07] i dont care for anything else [01:07] I prefer to keep /home separate so I don't have to wonder where my stuff goes when I upgrade [01:08] i've never actually upgraded a slack system [01:08] i like to separate /home too, so i can change between distro, upgrade. [01:08] jeev: what version are you using? [01:09] i have 12.2 on one box, everything else i have is 64-curren [01:09] t [01:09] does anyone know what's going on here? http://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/awiu7/cant_write_to_partition_table_trying_to_install/ [01:10] acidtripper (~gonza@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:10] cyb3r3li0g (~3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] person (~ed@92.23.107.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:15] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-183-11.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:16] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.212.174) joined ##slackware. [01:17] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:21] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:27] person (~ed@92.23.111.120) joined ##slackware. [01:27] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:27] cyb3r3li0g (~3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:28] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [01:28] alreadygone_ (~silas@59.103.193.26) joined ##slackware. [01:30] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:31] agentc0re: So what are dmraid/mdadm/dmsetup? Are they two different tools that do the same job? Or they're specific to certain hardware? [01:31] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.212.174) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:31] err three different.. [01:32] is slack a rolling release? [01:32] what is a rolling release ? [01:32] free_fx (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:32] just thinking...what is a new release if it does not ..roll ? [01:33] ? [01:35] Chameleon: no. [01:35] Rolling release is like Arch or Gentoo where "milestone" releases are largely a formality and the focuse is instread on updating and releasing individual pacakges [01:36] a rolling release is where they focus on updating and releasing individual packages ? [01:38] a rolling release is just -current touted as 'updates' [01:39] In software development, a rolling release approach refers to a continuously developing software system, as opposed to one with versions that must be reinstalled over the previous versions. It is one of many types of software release life cycles. [01:42] hmm is it possible to make a software raid on external drives? [01:42] ie usb/firewire drives.. [01:43] wescotte: sure [01:43] ok, i see, guess i was thinknig too hard :-) [01:44] interesting.. might have to attempt that.. [01:45] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:46] cyb3r3li0g (~3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] heya Rat409, how's it going? [01:48] fire|bird: good thanks,yourself? [01:49] heya,fire|bird [01:49] doing great, thanks, new weechat out, again, fixes a couple things. [01:49] heya MLanden, how are you? [01:49] heya,Rat409 [01:49] fire|bird: running it atm,thanks tho :) [01:50] hey MLanden ,how goes it? [01:50] fire|bird, just relaxin' thanks....backtrackin' through freshmeat..just updated vlc [01:50] Rat409: haha, I figured you would be, I have it installed here, but haven't tried it yet. [01:50] doin' great Rat409 thanks [01:51] Rat409: I also got updated to KDE 4.4 rc3 :D [01:51] eating provologne,smoked virginia ham,i'm happy :) [01:51] Rat409, lol.....do you have any Grey Poupon? [01:51] haha [01:52] hey fire|bird very cool on the new kde4 [01:52] Rat409: KDE 4.4 is going to be awesome. [01:52] final release is next week provided nothing changes. [01:52] sounds sweet ,nice. [01:53] hyke (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:53] i feel so left out with all this kde 4.4ness [01:53] i've been using xfce since 11.0, or 12.0... [01:54] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:54] lol.i'm actually in pekwm atm [01:54] my computers probabyl cant run kde smoothly anyway [01:54] Southern (southern@cnq41-218.cablevision.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:54] all my hardware is ~5 years old [01:54] Rat409: yeah, I've ran kde 4.4 stuff from alpha, one of the nice things of being on openSUSE here, I get updates quite frequently for it. I think my CPU would have went up in smoke if I'd been building KDE all these times on my slack drive. :P [01:55] s/from alpha/from alpha up to now 4.4 rc3/ [01:57] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [01:58] redtricycle: what's wrong with 5y/o equipment? my laptop is ~8y/o and works fine with kde4 [01:59] My desktop is 6 years old and runs KDE4 great. [01:59] effects and all. [02:00] realy? [02:00] Hm. [02:00] maybe i'll give it a try [02:00] ...when slackware hits the next version [02:02] Can anyone here access ivtvdriver.org? [02:02] What is the hardware? [02:03] I have kde4 on a P4 2.4ghz w/ 2gig ram and it's usable.. Also on a P4 2.4ghz w/ HT and only 512 and it's pretty solid [02:03] fire|bird: nice,its *nix,there's always a way. can't find how to disable ctcp replys in weechat 0.3.1.1,weird not in the /set cmds,only a dispalay param [02:03] both using very old Radeon chips [02:05] wescotte: unknown host here ;p [02:06] Southern: thanks [02:06] you're welcome [02:07] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [02:07] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:13] wescotte, you fix your problem ? [02:15] jeev: yes. Needed dmraid. Thanks for all your help earlier btw [02:16] cool [02:17] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [02:17] Rat409: Hmm, I'll be starting weechat up here in a bit, I'll see if I can find the setting for that. 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[02:37] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:37] morning slackers [02:38] oh my god [02:38] i left an easy password [02:38] and got brute forced. [02:39] after all that set up and prepare [02:39] oh my jesus [02:39] i knew it. [02:39] Axius (~fd@92.85.212.246) joined ##slackware. [02:39] Axius (~fd@92.85.212.246) left irc: Client Quit [02:41] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever. [02:42] cyb3r3li0g (~3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:42] o_o [02:42] morning slava_dp, how are you? [02:43] jeev, you seriously got bruteforced? i thought those guys never succeed. [02:43] fire|bird, i'm okay, just came to work :) how are you? [02:44] yea i did [02:44] and you know how i found out. [02:44] slava_dp: I'm great, thank you. :) [02:44] i happened to close a tab and saw mrtg showing around 75kb/s activity on the server and i hadn't moved load onto it [02:44] i looked in /var/log and saw "messagess" [02:44] i typed w, didn't even show mel ogged in [02:44] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:44] netstat -an showed 2 connections that weren't me to :22 [02:46] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424730.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:47] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:48] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [02:50] im gonna kill myself [02:50] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:51] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:51] Action: chopp tosses jeev an unregistered handgun. [02:51] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [02:54] i deserved it [02:54] i think i lost a lot of valuable things [02:55] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [02:56] these days the 1st thing that has to be done is to put a 2-line iptables bruteforce blocker on every machine. [02:56] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:56] jeev, i'm really sorry this happened to you. [02:57] it was a new set up [02:57] i cant believe i left that password [02:57] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [02:58] wish i ran lsof to see what was being done, at least sftp wise [02:59] despiron (~despiron@187.64.101.115) joined ##slackware. [03:00] 20 megs of files were taken [03:01] what though.. [03:01] cyb3r3li0g (~3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:06] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. 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[03:12] The-Croupier, mornin' [03:12] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:13] The-Croupier, it's closer to afternoon i would say. although me and you seem to be in the same timezone :) [03:13] Axius (~fd@92.85.212.246) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:13] its 10.15 here ;) [03:13] hows it going today guys ??? [03:13] should have ran stat on the sql file before i accessed it [03:14] its very afternoony [03:14] nice ;) [03:14] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:15] 3am, haven't gone to sleep yet. i'm claiming to still be in yesterday [03:15] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:19] hehehe [03:21] marra (marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:22] marra (marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) joined ##slackware. [03:24] night everyone. 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[04:16] dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/tmp/ddfile bs=1024 count=30000000 [04:16] vehn_z (~vehn_z@62.133.181.40) joined ##slackware. [04:17] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:18] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [04:21] slava_dp: *shrug* [04:22] seriously, 100% load :-/ [04:23] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:23] g4tt0 (~Romeo~@host237-117-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: g4tt0 [04:23] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:24] luks? [04:25] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:27] tanamo (~tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [04:29] wtf? amarok 2.2.1 trying to open kde-wallet? 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[04:51] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:53] hello [04:54] I can't use other Desktop program rather than Gnome :S.. what can I do in slackware world ? [04:55] wtf? amarok 2.2.1 trying to open kde-wallet? << likely because it stores lasFM login info [04:56] aye... worked that out [04:56] disabled lastfm [04:56] ta tho [04:58] F15ch3r: Gnome is the only desktop you can use? [04:59] if that's the case, then GSB (Gnome Slackbuild) might be for you [04:59] F15ch3r, i am sure you will love KDE. [05:00] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:01] alisonken1noc, I am familiar more with GTK and created many desktop program with it.. so I need gnome and I think that gnome is more easy and stable than KDE [05:01] uh [05:01] kde supports gtk apps still... [05:01] afaik [05:01] F15ch3r: "more stable" is relative to the underlying platform :) [05:01] and slackware has both qt and gtk+ libraries installed [05:01] and gnome is neither easier nor more stable [05:01] F15ch3r, i am sure you will love KDE. << proper propaganda :P [05:02] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:02] seb6896 (~seb@f0017-1-88-165-190-90.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:02] mohaa: hah [05:02] KDE4 is _not_ stable [05:02] at all [05:02] Trust Pat (tm) [05:02] it's just fashion [05:02] uhuh [05:03] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [05:03] mohaa: "not stable" is still relative to the underlying platform. I've had good experiences with KDE even in 4.3 currently shipped with Slackware-current [05:03] Zordrak, gnome came with a basic and simple programs, KDE come with 1000 of programs.. it looks like windows [05:03] Pat is heading to deal with PAM very soon :D (and i trust him as usual) [05:03] mohaa: thats not true at all. KDE is about component interoperability, productivity and just HAPPENS to look like its been made after 1987 [05:03] alisonken1noc, ok [05:03] mohaa: pat has made no statement either way.. he still is *looking* at it as a possibility [05:04] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.13.117.150) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [05:04] F15ch3r: "looks like windows" is till not quite correct either. If that was the case, then Windows would be considered a lookalike of KDE since KDE was using it's colorscheme before MS [05:04] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:04] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-209-193.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:04] You can make 7 and Vista *look* like Win98.. but theyll still have shit code at the core [05:05] KDE has good code at the core.. just happens to have certain UI similarities to MS [05:05] [05:05] Are you? That explains it. [05:06] i see no deal with kde apart from it's str8 to compile [05:06] deal? [05:06] mohaa: again, your experience is not my experience [05:07] as of kde4... it's too buggy to ever be shipped with slackware -_- [05:07] I simply love working with my keyboard ! I hate the mouse and even artistic desktop.. I simply want to work in dark terminals ;) [05:07] Zordrak, s/deal/good deal/ [05:07] mohaa: then why is it standard since 13.0 shipped last october? [05:08] 4.0/4.1 were too buggy. 4.2 is stable enough.. 4.3 raised the bar. [05:08] no 13.0 [05:08] alisonken1noc, I think I gonna use blackbox or derivated instead [05:08] F15ch3r: tried xfce? [05:08] F15ch3r: there's also xfce as part of slack [05:08] yes good alternative [05:09] OK I will opt for Xfce then [05:09] for a DE i would choose KDE4 then XFCE.. for a pure WM fluxbox wins [05:09] alisonken1noc all these need PAM btw and the dude just stand there limiting kde4 functionnalities (because he doesn't like pam) [05:09] c'mon [05:09] Zordrak, fluxbox still alive ? [05:11] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:11] http://imagebin.org/82963 <-- picture of my desktop at the office [05:11] mohaa: pam is a separate issue that can be resolved by enabling pam [05:12] F15ch3r: very [05:12] mohaa: you dont seem to know much about the pam situation [05:12] alisonken1noc, thanks [05:12] So, I created my first latex document today, it's a pretty neat way of doing text [05:14] latex is a very flexible setup from what I've read [05:14] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-84-63.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:14] mohaa: This is the text of an e-mail Pat sent me about PAM: http://pastebin.ca/1775438 [05:14] alisonken1noc, very nice.. is it KDE4 ? [05:15] it looks like OS/2 desktop [05:15] :p [05:15] slackware-current as of jan 08 - so that would be kde4.3.4 [05:16] alisonken1noc: s/08/09/ [05:16] F15ch3r: not quite :) wrong color scheme [05:16] err [05:16] s/08/10/? 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[05:20] Warp 4 was the last IBM release of OS/2 in 1993 [05:21] ok [05:21] alisonken1noc: if you havent tried it, i recommend the quicklaunch applet [05:21] alisonken1noc: neaten up your panel [05:22] and OS/2 was basically left by IBM and ecomstation took over for os/2 compatibility [05:22] Zordrak: ? [05:22] your ff//tb/kate/term buttons [05:23] quirklaunch applet can hold all 4 and grid them [05:23] slava_dp (~slava@94.179.235.40.pool.3g.utel.ua) joined ##slackware. [05:23] this works ok for me [05:23] just suggesting if youd never seen the applet [05:24] sirslacker (1001@s0098.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [05:24] currently have 18 apps in mine :) [05:26] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:29] grazymax (~grazymax@host2-96-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:31] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[05:52] wow - dead all of a sudden [05:52] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [05:53] you started it :) [05:55] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: Quit: POF! [05:55] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [05:59] there is nothing complicated than configuring Ipsec vpn :S [05:59] urso_catatau (~catatau@189.107.46.27) joined ##slackware. [05:59] so dont [06:00] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.154.39) joined ##slackware. [06:00] openvpn is strong easy and stable [06:00] ipsec is not [06:00] out of insanity... can I change the slackpkg mirror and update my box from 13.0 to current?? have you tried it? lol... [06:00] F15ch3r: correct. so why arent you using openvpn? [06:00] urso_catatau: I'm running -current right now [06:01] urso_catatau: me too [06:01] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [06:01] urso_catatau: but you do it at your own risk [06:01] urso_catatau: and it is not suppoarted [06:01] urso_catatau: you must be sure you know what you're doing [06:01] currently, there may be an issue with the xf86-video-intel-2.8.x driver, though [06:01] haha [06:01] Zordrak, because I have to use all type of vpn, it's OK for ssl vpn.. for ipsec and L2tp it's not yet [06:01] at least I have one on my 6y/o laptop [06:02] mmmm [06:03] openssl sucks too [06:04] Zordrak, alisonken1noc - slack is too much stable, getting bore. and I want to try alien's kde 4.4. 4.2.4 doesn't run fine in my rig =/ [06:04] so... thanks [06:04] urso_catatau: -current is 4.3.4 [06:04] kde 4.2.4 is rather underwhelming [06:04] urso_catatau: try that before alien's 4.4 [06:04] Zordrak: I know, but look aliens blog [06:04] ok [06:05] thanks, see ya later. [06:05] urso_catatau (~catatau@189.107.46.27) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:05] alienBOB = alien ? [06:05] yes [06:06] ok [06:06] i refrain from saying his full name so as not to disturb him [06:06] opps [06:06] sorry fot that mister alienBOB [06:08] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:08] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [06:09] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [06:12] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [06:12] seb6896 (~seb@f0017-1-88-165-190-90.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [06:14] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.13.103) joined ##slackware. [06:16] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:16] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-vgnkeztiqppjoojf) joined ##slackware. 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[06:32] bozo_ (~chatzilla@pool-162-83-144-106.ny5030.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.0.17/2009122115] [06:41] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:42] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [06:45] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-52-77.multimo.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:45] hey all, I'm trying to set up ffmpeg on my server box (very barebones system) and I keep getting an error while building SBo of Schroedinger-1.0.5 - it complains "checking for LIBOIL... configure: error: liboil-0.3 >= 0.3.13 is required" [06:46] slackpkg says: [ installed ] - liboil-0.3.15-i486-1 [06:46] 12.2 system [06:46] I'm thinking I might need to tweak the slackbuild, but I can't figure out where [06:46] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:47] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:49] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [06:51] theblackbox: are you installing from the 12.2 repo or the 13.0 repo? [06:51] 12.2.... but I'll double check that [06:51] Action: Zordrak just found a big bug in Amarok 2.2.1. Gonna have to manually upgrade to 2.2.2 [06:52] yep, both sbopkg and slackpkg are set as 12.2 and anything I've done manually has been 12.2 [06:52] hm [06:53] other_rafa (rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:53] you may have to have a look through the configure [06:53] having a mooch around on google it seems like it's happened to a few people [06:53] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:53] Zordrak, of what? [06:54] schroedinger [06:54] checking how it checks the liboil version [06:55] yeah, I was just wondering if the config options might just need a tweak (like --prefix=/usr/bin instead of just /usr) but wasn't too sure [06:55] doesnt seem like passing options would solve this one.. depends how it does the detect [06:56] or I might have to build liboil static/dynamic from what some forum says [06:56] emma_ (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [06:57] hm [06:57] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Changing host [06:57] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) joined ##slackware. [06:57] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:57] zErOaCid (debian@71.94.1.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:00] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:02] might be that I was missing pkg-config ;) [07:03] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [07:03] er perhaps [07:03] yep, that's done it =D told you it was bare bones [07:03] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [07:03] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.193.26) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:04] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:04] this is exactly why i always do a full instalation as long as disk space isnt a problem [07:05] turning off anything you dont needs makes it run very slim.. and you never find yourself without core libs and tools [07:05] Nick change: Guest93647 -> init[1] [07:05] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [07:06] init[1] (buffer@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [07:06] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [07:06] wait.... don't you normally take issue with using ext3 because it wastes an eighth of a meg per gig! =P [07:06] Coolmax (~mateusz@jupiter.ath.bielsko.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:06] i take issue with any FS that throws away 30G on a 400G disk! [07:07] m0n-Eh (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-153-68.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [07:07] but thats on disks im using to store massive amounts of data [07:07] on the OS disk space is never an issue [07:07] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:07] not to that extent anywaf [07:07] lol, well it's on a linode, so I'm squeezed for space [07:07] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [07:07] and just a couple of extra gig for slackware is barely a concern [07:07] aahh [07:07] that makes sense [07:08] Arirang (~arirang@c-24-21-186-231.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:08] prefer to bottom up than top down for now, as I'm still not up to fu [07:08] s/still/*still* [07:08] Action: theblackbox hangs head in shame [07:08] for vps hosting i totally see why you would [07:08] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [07:09] m0n-E (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-132-238.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:09] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:09] Phew.. amarok is big. Taking ages to compile [07:09] yeah it does that, doesn't it! [07:10] http://pastie.org/805741 [07:10] what about that... that's environment vars not being set, isn't it? [07:10] openjpeg slackbuild [07:11] stupid centos people [07:11] Action: tewmten is grumpy ;( [07:12] hmm not sure [07:12] not clear if the vars are empty or just wrong [07:13] i would have thought its another missing dep [07:13] but i dont know where the tiff library is [07:14] bugger.... is pat still rebuilding the package lib =/ [07:14] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:14] buh? [07:15] http://packages.slackware.it/ [07:15] schmuh? [07:16] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:16] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [07:16] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:17] ohhh, libtiff =o [07:17] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:17] theblackbox: http://packages.slackware.it no longer works. [07:17] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [07:18] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:18] Coolmax (~mateusz@jupiter.ath.bielsko.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:19] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [07:19] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:19] XGizzmo, yeah I know, that's what I meant [07:19] Oh, Sorry then. [07:20] just wondering if/when it might be back up, I use it quite a lot when doing this type of bottom up, I'm a moron and forgot the most basic of libs, type setup ;) [07:20] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.154.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [07:21] theblackbox: No idea when it will return it was only going to be offline a short time a long time ago. [07:21] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [07:21] there was a different package browser but I don't recall the link. [07:22] /drom/ [07:22] ah found it [07:22] /cdrom/ [07:22] http://packages.slackverse.org/ [07:22] ignore the stupid bob pictures they use. [07:22] ahh, nice, cheers [07:22] heh [07:22] tewmten (tew@gaskammare.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:23] who's "they"? [07:23] tewmten (tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [07:23] asamoah (~caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [07:23] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] theblackbox: no idea, it is an unoffical site. [07:25] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [07:26] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:29] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Client Quit [07:30] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Nick change: zecafig -> zeca_afk [07:33] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:33] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.154.39) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Nick change: zeca_afk -> zecafig [07:34] theblackbox: lol [07:34] 12:13:12 < Zordrak> i would have thought its another missing dep [07:34] 12:17:02 < theblackbox> ohhh, libtiff =o [07:35] aw maann. amarok 2.2.2 build died [07:36] heh =P [07:36] error in amarokconfig.o(.eh_frame); no .eh_frame_hdr table will be created [07:36] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [07:36] haha [07:36] ld? [07:36] pprkut: just the person [07:37] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@81.193.133.195) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:37] :D [07:37] pprkut: you know anything about building this thingc? [07:38] I'm still running 2.1.85 ;) [07:38] bah [07:38] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:38] it was the last release to work with taglib 1.5. I don't want to update that shit [07:39] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [07:39] heh [07:39] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:39] i just wanna go up a minor rev to fix a grave-level bug [07:40] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:40] you would have thought just a slackbuild version bump would suffice [07:41] its a gcc error [07:41] but i dont really get whats causing it [07:42] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:42] might poke bob.. since hes done kde4.4 [07:42] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:42] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:43] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:43] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:44] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [07:44] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[07:51] and thaTS bad how [07:51] alienBOB: i only poke you when its important enough :) [07:51] all he does is mindless twiiter-like yimmer yammer [07:51] in this case it was just someone wanting to know who alien was [07:51] i know how limited my own time is, let alone yours [07:52] alienBOB: since you're here.. do you know anything about the above issues building amarok 2.2.2 on -current? Am wondering if its a gcc4.4.3 thing [07:53] I did not try building amarok recently [07:53] kk [07:53] Zordrak: I suppose this could fix it: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/F-12/amarok/amarok-2.2.2-no_var_tracking.patch?view=markup [07:53] but no idea if it's the proper fix [07:53] pprkut: ta.. will take a look [07:53] alienBOB: are you building KDE4.4 RC3 packages? [07:53] on another note, anyone notice an issue with xf86-video-intel-2.8.x drivers? [07:54] alienBOB: fyi the reason is theres a bug in 2.2.1 that stops random working unless repeat is off [07:54] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [07:54] i seem to have built latest amarok with 4.4.2 not 4.4.3 on Jan 12th [07:54] thats amarok 2.2.2 [07:55] hmm.. using the official build and a version bump? [07:55] shyko: no I will skip RC3 because that RC is intended to test the KDE release procedures... not particularly because a lot of bugs were crushed [07:56] good [07:56] Zordrak: yes , but my system is highly customised and doesnt include most libraries amarok uses, liblastfm etc [07:56] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:56] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:56] sahk0: *nod* though this seems to be a core library issue [07:59] pprkut: trying out that patch no [07:59] *now [07:59] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[08:13] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:13] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [08:14] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [08:14] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:14] bah... what's it called (DNS - wise) when you have domain.tld and add a record DEV.domain.tld ? [08:15] my mind just fell to bits =S [08:15] it's not an MX record.... [08:16] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:16] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.43.251) joined ##slackware. [08:17] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:17] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. [08:18] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [08:18] sirslacker (1001@s0098.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:19] pprkut: that patch just makes it die for a new reason :) doesnt recognise the no var tracking assignments cli option [08:20] trying to compile against gcc4.3.3 on 13.0 but kde libs are too old [08:20] sirslacker (1001@s0361.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [08:21] rachael (~nnnnracha@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:21] just have to take sahk0's word for it [08:21] theblackbox: an A or CNAME [08:21] A for IP, CNAME for a link [08:21] alienBOB: I accidently installed the x64 version of bash on a pc I was working on. I uninstalled it and reinstalled bash from the -current compilation though i'm getting /bin/bash Exec format error. Is there anyway to fix this or do I need to reinstall? [08:22] Zordrak, yeah I was thinking of CNAME, cheers [08:22] Zordrak: ok, was worth a shot [08:23] indeed, thx [08:23] /bin/sh: ll: command not found [08:23] heh [08:24] dtanner (~dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [08:25] boo [08:25] mrselfpwn: you probably need to clean some x64 bash kluge out of /bin and manually copy (including symlinks) of the proper bash package [08:26] and that would most likely include: ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh [08:26] acidtripper (~gonzalo@32-140-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:26] hom about install the 64, then UNinstall the 64 then install the 32? [08:26] than surely pkgtools should take care of the cruft? [08:26] Pig_Pen: i see. [08:27] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:27] i can use zsh and ash [08:27] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-170.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:27] sure if the system core was working properly then pkgtools would work, but if it is broken... [08:27] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. [08:28] hm [08:28] theres always the 64 file list [08:28] right, it doesn't work. installpkg seems to work though spits out the entire script before it runs [08:28] manual removal [08:28] not sure, pkgtools most likely includes scripts that call on bin/bash or bin/sh [08:28] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:28] #!/bin/sh [08:28] or i can just install slack 64 on this machine [08:29] sure [08:29] sh links to bash ^^ [08:29] for i in read line; do rm "$line";done < /var/log/packages/bash-foo-x86_64-1 [08:29] or some manual version of the same [08:30] it's strange it actually let me remove bash 64 and i reinstalled 32bit version or atleast i think. [08:30] using removepkg and installpkg [08:31] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:31] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. [08:31] that computer has bin a pain lately anyway. the 2.6.32.5 kernel when it was in -current gave a panic [08:31] how the hell? [08:32] that's what i said [08:32] i leave -current for the pros, or those that like to play with bugs, (i am neither) [08:32] installpkg uses /bin/sh.. which is linked to /bin/bash.. [08:32] rachael (~nnnnracha@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:32] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Client Quit [08:33] Pig_Pen: i run current on all my machines and have had no problem though on mine i configure my own kernel from the vanilla source [08:33] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [08:33] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. [08:33] that one was actually the default kernel so idk [08:34] anyway, it's basically a machine with a slack backbone running virtualbox for windows in my sis' house [08:34] heh [08:36] i lost patience debugging systems, if i cant fix it in an hour i will wipe the OS off and put something older / more stable on [08:36] i know i can reinstall and it would be on it's way, I was attempting to turn it into a learning experience, though it seems option A is probably gonna be my best bet. [08:38] when the sun comes up and warms up a bit i got to climb my antenna tower and fix a broken antenna [08:38] Pig_Pen: I did it by accidently uncommenting 64current in slackpkg mirrors. ^^ [08:38] instead of normal -current [08:38] test [08:39] yowza! you broke it alright, if you can fix it great, if not then you can call it a learning experience [08:40] measure twice, cut once (it is always good to look carefully at those things that are not easily un-done) [08:41] romas (~romas@78.61.208.112) joined ##slackware. [08:42] yes indeed. [08:43] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:46] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [08:58] Breech_1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:59] been there - had to boot from the install cd and reinstall bash for slack64 to be able to redo my updates to the _proper_ mirror [08:59] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [09:00] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:01] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: rango [09:02] looks like everyone had installed some packages for the wrong arch lol :-) [09:05] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:05] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:06] XD [09:06] i wonder if pat will consider checking architecture [09:07] it would be a good idea to do. [09:08] that would be pretty easy to implement i would imagine [09:09] seb6896 (~seb@f0017-1-88-165-190-90.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] notKlaatu (~sxe@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [09:12] or only having 32-bit repositories in the slack tree and 64-bit repositories in the slack64 tree [09:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:13] [ "$PKG_ARCH" != "$ARCH" ] && { echo "What the fsck are you doing here???"; exit 255; } [09:13] :-) [09:13] Nick change: zecafig -> zeca_afk [09:13] hah [09:14] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:14] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [09:14] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:14] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:15] sirslacker (1001@s0361.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:15] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:15] slava_dp: well what if you set ARCH=i686 in .bashrc ? [09:15] then you failed? :-) [09:15] no the script would fail though lol [09:16] it's cool I have to set my arch when to x86 when doing make on the kernel [09:17] and i guess a neophyte wouldn't be setting his arch in .bashrc ;) [09:18] wow(!) the build for 2.2.1 is failing spectacularly [09:18] Zordrak, what are you building? [09:18] amarok [09:19] still at it i see [09:19] trying to update to 2.2.2 to got around a bug.. but it wouldnt build.. now im testing trying to build 2.2.1 and its exploding [09:20] Zordrak, i'd like to thank you for the last article in your blog, regarding udev persistent rules. this knowledge saved me a lot of time today. thanks. [09:20] what is your error? [09:20] slava_dp: np [09:20] mrselfpwn: well.. it was a simple gcc error before [09:21] in 2.2.1 im getting thousands of c++ errors [09:21] ay [09:21] and you are updating because? [09:21] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:21] scratch that, i see your note above now [09:22] theres a bug in 2.2.1 that makes random fail te do anything if repeat is set to anything but none [09:22] k [09:22] yeah you mentioned that last night also no that i recall. that is a strange bug [09:22] now* [09:23] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [09:25] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-219-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:25] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [09:26] The-spiki (~spiki@linette.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [09:26] GaRLiK (1000@host126-43-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:27] im going back to basics. Ive rsynced source/kde/ from -current (as im on -current) and am attemping to compile the whole shebang [09:27] (trying to mirror how its done by the team) [09:27] if that succeeds at least i have somewhere to go with this [09:29] Zordrak: did you do that shebang in the Willium Hung voice? [09:29] i'd like to think so [09:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcc8dTqflh8 [09:31] neptun (~neptun@217.117.141.42) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:32] O_o [09:32] yes, he got a record deal. XD [09:34] dartmouth (~dartmouth@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [09:34] dartmouth (~dartmouth@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:35] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] hi, can someone help? http://slackware-radeonhd5770-compatibility.blogspot.com [09:35] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:38] pseudonymous (~icarus@cust-IP-31.data.3.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:39] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:39] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:39] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.197.178) joined ##slackware. [09:40] righteous: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0Ng [09:41] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:41] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. [09:41] pprkut, right, thats why we are trying to use fglrx since it clearly states in its docs that it has 2d accel and 3d support. [09:43] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.28.29) joined ##slackware. [09:43] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [09:44] never had my hand on fglrx. And I never will either [09:44] eviljames got it working but i have had trouble tracking him down again [09:45] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.43.251) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:45] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-146.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:45] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:49] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:51] bugger. even kdelibs fails [09:51] sux [09:51] i get the feeling i shoulda upgraded to -current /just/ before the gcc upgrade [09:55] I have a feeling the fglrx maintainer should be executed. [09:57] not worth the bullet [09:57] pseudonymous (~icarus@cust-IP-31.data.3.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:57] lol [09:58] seriously no one has an evergreen based chipset? [09:59] heyll no [09:59] bah! 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[10:03] hi folks, i have a problem when close a window chat from my pidgin, it make crash a panel and the panel is restarted, the output from debug is http://pastebin.com/d7c108116 [10:04] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:04] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [10:04] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. [10:04] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:06] sirslacker (1001@s0361.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:10] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [10:10] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:10] pseudonymous (~icarus@82.211.203.74) joined ##slackware. [10:11] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:11] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. 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[10:30] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:31] thrice`: i cant build any subset of kde [10:31] thrice`: the only reason i can see is the gcc upgrade. [10:32] i may be wrong, but ive yet to find an alternate reason [10:32] thrice`: you can help prove/disprove if you have an up to date -current... [10:34] Zordrak, then, post any sort of error or clue? [10:35] are you building kde3? kde4? 4.2, 4.3, 4.4? [10:35] ive given up and shut it all down now... [10:35] im literally talking about just running pats KDE.SlackBuild in -current [10:35] for kde 4.3? [10:35] yes [10:36] kdelibs fails.. amarok on its own fails [10:36] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:36] I'd say there's about 98% chance it should build fine, since almost all distributions do it at the moment with gcc 4.4 [10:37] thats as far as i bothered to get. This was tracking back from trying to build amarok 2.2.2 with the same scripts and a version bump.. when it failed i went back to test if pats 2.2.1 built and it doesnt.. so i tried from the master KDE SlackBuild and that failed.. so I tried the wheole shebang and it didnt even get past kdelibs [10:37] again, "fails" is the most retarded error you can post [10:37] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:37] i dont have a clean -current to test with to prove its not environmental [10:38] oops, was scrolled up [10:38] then something else is (probably trivially) wrong [10:39] well i thought that.. and i want to rule out the environment.. but need a clean -current to do so [10:39] considering making one in virtualbox [10:39] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:39] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) joined ##slackware. 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[11:22] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] macavity (~macavity@212088073001.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:24] shyko: de donde en sur america? [11:25] vastina: Brazil [11:25] ah portuguese [11:25] =) [11:26] if not for the crime and transvestites, i'd probably love to visit beautiful brasil, the only interest i have there is i train in brasilian jiu jitsu... amazing accent on judo [11:28] shyko: how do you feel about lula? [11:28] :) [11:28] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [11:29] is there someone who has tried to setup strongswan ? [11:29] F15ch3r: wish i had, what's the issue? [11:29] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:30] I simply want to connect two host inside my network [11:30] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:30] actually no i don't wish i had... what's the error? [11:30] any reason you cant use openvpn instead? [11:30] everything is ok but this error : ignoring informational payload, type INVALID_KEY_INFORMATION [11:30] I tried to generate the certificates many times [11:31] and even test it by : ipsec listcerts [11:31] it show me OK [11:32] Breech_1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:33] rizitis_ (~rizitis@79.107.134.72) joined ##slackware. [11:33] F15ch3r: have you tried openvpn as ardya brought up? is there any specific reason why you want to use strongswan? [11:33] ardya, no I need to setup my vpn with ipsec [11:33] why [11:34] i iterate; why? [11:34] many different ciphers out there, ipsec is just as good as say, blowfish in my opinion [11:34] rizitis_ (~rizitis@79.107.134.72) left irc: Changing host [11:34] rizitis_ (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [11:34] and blowfish is much more lightweight [11:35] rizitis (~rizitis@79.107.124.157) left irc: Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by rizitis_!~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis)) [11:35] this is the instructions [11:35] Nick change: rizitis_ -> rizitis [11:35] eh? [11:36] ardya [11:36] the administration told me to use Ipsec so I have to use it [11:36] i got brute forced yesterday [11:36] ;( [11:36] sorry dude [11:36] not surprised [11:36] that's what happens when you leave a box's password 'test' [11:36] jeev: haha! [11:36] i was done configuring it too man fark [11:36] sorry [11:36] i swear [11:37] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:37] i'm not sure what was compromised, i had a few .sql with email passwords [11:37] they transferred a stupid windows .exe on lol, i caught them within 20 minutes [11:37] jeev: just a script kittie... nothing to worry about,. plug your hole up and forget about it [11:38] i did, i've checked for changes, rootkits and everything else [11:38] the guuy had added :0:0: to passwd fie haha [11:38] so 1995 [11:38] nice [11:39] such an idiot man [11:39] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-63-79.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:39] you? for leaving such a limp bait out there [11:39] i agree [11:39] :p [11:39] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:40] indeed ;) [11:40] but, the bigger idiot is the guy leaving jeev in charge of admin'ing [11:40] i've done it too though... had my test gateway hanging out with a weak pass for about 20 mins and was nabbed, but that was back in 2002 [11:40] thrice`: haha! 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[11:45] No, the case I've got puts the PSU at the bottom, and the ATX power and 4-pin 12v power just weren't long enough to reach. [11:45] ah ok [11:45] ah [11:45] 24 pin psus are used for some of the newer intel mobos [11:45] Why wouldn't they just take that power from the same pins inside the PSU? [11:45] Not just Intel, AMD boards use it too. [11:45] power termination of load [11:46] Breech_1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:46] yeah that's right, i just haven't played with the newer amd chips yet [11:47] but yeah it's to terminate an open loop to a load, if you have half the circuit open whilst load is only applied to *some* of the contacts, the controller in the psu will close the loop [11:47] They've been doing that for years now. [11:48] there is a security problem with pidgin? [11:48] vastina: Ok, well... I don't understand that, but the explanation satisfies me at least. :^) [11:48] Alan_Hicks: again, i haven't even touched the newer amd chips, and that means years... last amd chip i've touched was back in 2003 [11:49] Alan_Hicks: it's just electrical principles and there's a controller chip on the psu itself to maintain a steady current to all loads [11:50] vastina: Yeah, electrical engineering was something I just never grasped. [11:50] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:50] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:50] ie: if one of the molex connectors doesn't have load applied, modern psus will not juice the contact up until there is load ie: a tester or an actual load [11:50] Newtonian physics I get, but voltage, resistance, amperage, and how it all changes, I've never been able to properly grasp. [11:51] :) [11:51] But how does it know there's no load there without juicing it? [11:51] when it starts there's a diagnostic pulse that goes out to each contact, those with load have the applicable voltage sent via a current [11:52] Alan_Hicks: voltage is how wide the river is; amperage is how deep the river is; resistance is how rocky the river bottom is ;) [11:52] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [11:52] gnubien: haha nice [11:52] i liked that analogy [11:52] gnubien: That's no help at all. :-) I've heard all the water analogies in the world. [11:52] Alan_Hicks: yea, just a joke [11:52] The best one for making sense of it that I've ever heard relates to Newtonian physics. [11:53] Alan_Hicks: well electrical current is much like water current; comprehension of it seems to settle the same way; just much faster [11:53] Voltage = Force, Amperage = Velocity, Wattage = Power. [11:53] But that still doesn't adequately explain resistance. [11:53] josefig (~JoseFig@189.251.4.232) joined ##slackware. [11:53] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Well, resistance could be mass I suppose in F = MA [11:53] pie: power equals amperage times volatage [11:54] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:54] voltage [11:54] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:55] resistance is the regulation or cancelling of a current [11:55] Alan_Hicks: resistance is how poorly a material conducts electricity [11:55] gnubien: that's another way to look at it as well [11:55] gnubien: Yes, but there's no applicable analogue in newtonian physics. perhaps friction? [11:56] yea, friction is close [11:56] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-25.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] V = Ohms * Amps, right? [11:57] yes [11:57] E [11:57] I R [11:57] See, I think that's what tripped me up so bad in college when I took a course on electric circuitry. [11:57] e=i*r [11:58] i=u/r [11:58] I'm one of thsoe people who just can't accept that something simply works some way; I have to learn the very real most fundamental stuff first, and I could never figure out voltage. [11:58] The way it is always explained, voltage is the product of resistance and amperage. [11:59] Alan_Hicks: the R value of insulation in buildings is the inverse of conductivity 1/R == conductivity [11:59] Had they told me amperage was the quotient of voltage divided by resistance, I might have better understood. [11:59] See, voltage was always explained as some sort of mystical thing that was derived after shit started happening. [12:00] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:00] But voltage is really the thing that starts shit. That had me all bass-ackwards for years. [12:00] Alan_Hicks: agreed, it was first very mystical, still so imho [12:00] i*R makes more sense to me [12:00] I think I would do much better should I take that course now. [12:00] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [12:01] thrice`: Maybe, if you define what e, i, and R are. :-) [12:01] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:01] actually, voltage is "V" , but who's counting :> [12:01] Alan_Hicks: wait till you see "true RMS" I had that trouble measuring W on UPS-es [12:01] w=u * I [12:01] R * sqrt(-1) = 2.718282 [12:02] That always makes resistance an imaginary thing. [12:02] I only had 1 electrical course, though, as I"m a mech. eng. we were forced with "EE for dummies" and nothing further [12:03] thrice`: That's the class I failed when taking mechanical engineering. :-) [12:03] haha [12:03] Definitely wasn't EE for dummies though. The professor wrote his own text book and it was HUGE. [12:03] I had a prof. that taught as though we didn't care, thankfully. just enough to get through controls [12:04] Alan_Hicks: Howdy [12:04] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:04] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [12:04] gar0t0: Howdy. [12:04] :) [12:05] thrice`: Day 1 we started diagraming circuits. By day 2 we were expected to figure out the voltage, resistance, and/or amperage along any given point on a circuit. [12:05] jeev, so which box was it, anyway? Dont' you only admin the cash registers at mcdonalds? did somebody score free big macs or something? [12:05] thrice`: jeev admins the registers for McDonald's? No fuckin' wonder they can't ever get my order right. [12:05] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [12:06] I think by admin, he really means just an operator, but who knows [12:07] thrice`: Now I understand why they invented those machines that let the customer swipe his own credit card. [12:08] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:08] ha ha [12:08] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E2E3C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC314DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:10] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Fui embora [12:12] anyone know how to recover mysql after a serious crash? sorry, trying to get help elsewhere but not getting far: http://pastie.org/806121 [12:13] there are a few threads on mysql forum, but they aren't at all forthcoming with a solution [12:15] damnit [12:15] cant believe i got brute forced [12:16] no comments from our discussion? [12:16] jeev: what did they do after getting in? [12:16] i dont know, i saw 20 megs out [12:16] and 28 megs in [12:16] the in was a windows exe... [12:16] i'm not sure what the 20 was, maybe part of the windows exe speedtesting [12:16] i should've run stat on my sql file and lsof to see what file. [12:17] my most important thing, other than being root kitted was the sql database in plain sight [12:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-151.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:19] sql i could deeal with, i watched maillogs like a hawk.. [12:19] i could change the passwords and i have already to the biggest people [12:19] i feel like such a thrice, i mean retard. [12:20] same thing [12:20] you didn't see my mcdonalds joke above? [12:20] i just did lol [12:20] it was the 3rd register, the one you cleaned the throw up off last week [12:21] do people really trust you with important things? [12:24] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-25.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [12:25] bah! [12:25] SlackNews (slacknews@apple.chaosorigin.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:26] josefig (~JoseFig@189.251.4.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:26] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:26] my antenna repair was a resounding success! good thing i keep aluminum tubing stashed like a pack rat, i just had to cut a piece to size and it was a done deal [12:27] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-29-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:27] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] thrice`, more important than you could imagine kind of things [12:28] Penguins have a gland above their eyes that converts sea water to fresh water [12:28] theblackbox, if we could only harvest that technology [12:29] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [12:29] there is a hurculese stationed in Haiti that can provide enough constant fresh water for a small city... I wonder what tech that is using [12:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-151.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:29] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [12:29] probably reverse osmosis [12:29] *Hurcules [12:30] despiron (~despiron@187.64.101.115) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:31] theblackbox: What's one of them? [12:31] them big ass planes [12:31] Hercules ? the airplane ? [12:31] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:32] mobile water desalination plant.... what a time to be alive [12:32] jeev, yeah [12:32] theblackbox: oh *Herculus* [12:32] Action: BP{k} slaps theblackbox [12:33] Action: theblackbox puts on a robe and breaks all of BP{k}s plates [12:33] my favorite huge plane is the Galaxy [12:33] jeev: I kind do like the idea of a spectre. [12:33] that's how they fly in the grills thrice uses at his local mcdonalds [12:33] mine would have to be the Spruce Moose [12:33] gunship ? [12:33] jeev: yep. [12:34] theblackbox: H-4 right? [12:34] dunno, I'm out of my depth.... I can't even spell the name of the worlds most famous Hero [12:35] all a spectre is is a hurcules outfitted with weaponry [12:35] Action: BP{k} googles. .. yep \o/ Hughes H-4 Hercules .. also known as Spruce Goose. Heavy Transport flying boat. [12:35] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:35] jeev: correct. [12:35] Anyway, I think the discussion of various aircraft should be taken to ##slackware-offtopic. [12:36] i wanted to kill myself last night when that shit happened [12:36] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:37] anyone ever used mutt to look at spam assasin scoring and choose to throw stuff away? [12:37] or am I better off going with a procmail/local spamassasin setup? [12:37] my mail is already scored by an MTA before it gets to me [12:37] you want to review mail ? [12:38] i want stuff above a certain spam assasin score to be trashed [12:38] gnrp (~gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:38] heheh i guess i should see if there is a #mutt [12:38] yea, i use thunderbird ;D [12:40] asamoah (~caio@190.244.48.8) joined ##slackware. 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[12:44] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:46] sadsfae: with imap, you can use whatever you want [12:46] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) joined ##slackware. [12:46] tb in your usual work environment and mutt configured too [12:46] LTL2h (~lulu@AToulouse-258-1-3-194.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:46] thunderbird 3 + nostalgy extension is very good. [12:46] Indeed. I use claws-mail with imap, and ssh into the mail server for mutt anytime I need it. [12:46] mutt users will feel at home [12:48] Alan_Hicks: so I can use that with IMAP np? [12:48] cool [12:48] sadsfae: Yeah. You'll need to compile claws-mail with a library, but build scripts and instructions are all on SBo. [12:49] i see [12:49] yeah i just figured i'd try something with scoring since that's already done before the mail gets to my imap folder [12:50] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:51] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:53] how come freenode/##slackware is not making my status with an +ei [12:53] [Pig_Pen(+i)] [12:54] i did use /msg NickServ identify [12:54] and i got a -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You are now identified for Pig_Pen [12:55] Is there a wysiwyg blogging client for Slackware? I googled and saw blogilo in KDE but is not available for Slackware. [12:55] blogilo is an add-on for kde, but will be included with 4.4 by default [12:55] kleanchap: search freshmeat.net if you could not find anything at slackbuilds.org [12:56] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:57] Pig_Pen, Does freshmeat have slack packages? [12:57] kleanchap: gwibber isn't bad [12:58] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:58] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.197.178) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:58] Pig_Pen, message me your password.. let me try [12:58] no, they just list submissions of source code releases, they are a good place to search for stuff, i search there often, for stuff i never built before i build as a regular user and prefix it to ~/ to see how the build goes and how the app will behave with slackware before i build a real package and merge it with the system [12:59] sadsfae, gwibber does not support Wordpress though. [12:59] gnrp (~gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE) joined ##slackware. [12:59] It is a micro blogging client. [12:59] subvhome (~substance@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:00] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hey guys =) [13:00] oh no [13:00] BOFH [13:00] o.0 [13:00] phrag: Long time no see. [13:01] ;) [13:01] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [13:01] hey phrag [13:01] Alan_Hicks: hey mate, certainly is =) how are you? [13:01] can someone explain to me why i can't eject my usb dvdburner unless im root. This is causing a problem since i burning dvd isn't allowed with sudo/root [13:01] phrag: I'm fine. [13:01] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.32) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [13:01] subvhome: You mean the eject command doesn't work? [13:02] subvhome: add your user to burning group and check permission of the device you are ejecting [13:02] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.34) joined ##slackware. [13:04] brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2010-02-02 17:38 sr0 [13:04] You a member of the cdrom group? [13:04] burning permissions? what file is that in [13:05] chuck56 (~chuck56@66.7.171.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:05] subvhome: your user needs rw access to the device [13:06] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [13:06] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:06] anyone here use fail2ban/ if so how long do you ban ips for [13:06] subvhome, what does groups command output for user? [13:07] chuck56 (~chuck56@66.7.171.116) joined ##slackware. [13:07] groups substancev [13:07] substancev : users ((sorry)) [13:07] is somebody here familiar with metasploit? [13:07] i mean sorry for dual line paste [13:07] just groups executed as user ;-) [13:07] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E2E3C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:08] well you can do it as root as you typed [13:08] i get: users [13:08] ah problems then [13:08] when you created your user you did not add extra groups [13:08] Azeotrope: depends.. is your question, 'how do you use metasploit?' [13:08] can i chmod 777 to the device? [13:09] no [13:09] subvhome, no don't do that [13:09] andrewtaylor_ (~slackandr@144.75.187.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [13:09] fix your groups [13:10] no, my question is "how do you make a pdf with a payload". tried multiple things and none works [13:10] dangit..what should i fix... im short on time to read :) [13:10] add yourself to floppy, audio, video, cdrom, plugdev, and users in /etc/group [13:10] Azeotrope: not the place to ask [13:10] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:10] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [13:11] http://imagebin.org/83028 [13:11] thanks [13:11] SlackNews (nikopol@apple.chaosorigin.com) joined ##slackware. [13:11] subvhome, do this command as root: 'usermod -G tty,floppy,audio,video,cdrom,plugdev,power,scanner,netdev ' [13:11] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [13:12] edit groups according to your need [13:12] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] chuck56 (~chuck56@66.7.171.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:12] i like doing things the hard way ;p [13:12] bah [13:12] subvhome, then you will probably need to log out of X and all consoles [13:13] s/probably// [13:16] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [13:16] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:16] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-29-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:17] usermod didn't work [13:17] Nick change: zecafig -> zeca_smoke [13:17] nevermind.. path issue [13:17] you do it as root [13:17] hi [13:17] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:18] SlackNews (nikopol@apple.chaosorigin.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:18] worked [13:18] thanks.. ill man usermod to learn more [13:19] gpasswd is good to - for single groups [13:19] but you need log out of eveything now [13:19] for the change to work [13:19] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:19] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [13:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Changing host [13:25] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [13:28] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. 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[14:01] sirslacker (1001@s0361.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:01] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.16.53) left irc: Client Quit [14:02] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.16.53) joined ##slackware. [14:03] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:04] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [14:06] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-59-252.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [14:07] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [14:09] feinom (~feinom@svale.hia.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:10] I currently have a Slackware 13 FULL installation. Now I'm waiting to migrate from a 10GB root partition to a <3.6GB compact flash card/partition. The installation is for a media centre type PC, so I'm sure I can stand to lose quite a lot of packages. [14:11] Besides going through pkgtool, laboriously, is there a quickfire way to slim down an install, besides saving /etc and throwing it on top of a fresh minimal install? [14:11] Apologies if this sounds like a stupid or lazy question. [14:12] Axius (~fd@92.84.2.53) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-32-49.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:13] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] hcfd: removing *kde* will save a tremnedous amount of space to begin with. [14:14] thumbs, can I do removepkg k* or similar? [14:15] The entire k-series is kde, right? [14:15] Currently using fluxbox as the wm. [14:16] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:16] hcfd: it's safe to remove all kde packages, yes. [14:17] Thank you thumbs, I guess that might get me pretty close. [14:17] I don't care for a hardcore minimal install, just enough to resize and then move the root partition. [14:17] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:17] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-32-49.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:19] feinom (~feinom@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [14:22] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:23] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:27] any of you use git on the kernel source much? [14:28] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Axius (~fd@92.84.2.53) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:29] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: Quit: POF! 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[15:30] eg, [15:30] Yes, of course if you had such packages installed before, you need to use "upgradepkg --install-new" [15:31] alienBOB: got the KDE 4.4 rc 3 working [15:32] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-241-162.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:32] Upgrading libtool-compat32-1.5.26-x86_64-1 package using d-compat32/libtool-compat32-2.2.6b-x86_64-1.txz [15:33] like this ^^ [15:34] feinom (~feinom@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [15:34] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.13.117.150) joined ##slackware. [15:34] powtrix: indeed that is when you need upgradepkg [15:34] My tutorial is for those who do not yet have multilib packages installed. [15:35] almost all packages were skipped, few ones were upgraded. [15:35] alienBOB, I tried mailing pat without response, but I do not believe the usbboot.img for 64-bit are being generated properly. among others, they seem to lack a kernel ;) [15:35] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:35] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.154.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:36] what i noticed about them is they criple the stick. they just create a /dev/sdb and the rest is unusable for some reason [15:36] but they worked for maintainance stuff [15:36] ..here [15:37] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:37] I haven't had luck with the last 2; seem unique to 64-bit, as 32-bit both have the expected items [15:37] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:38] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.16.53) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:38] the last 3 were the first ones that dd'ing them directly to the stick worked. i guess its related to the scsi kernel change [15:39] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.16.53) joined ##slackware. [15:39] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:40] thrice`: are you talking about the .7 ones? [15:40] i dont think ive tried those yet [15:40] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:40] yep [15:41] gonna try in a while [15:42] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:43] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:43] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [15:43] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:44] thrice`: true. they return Could not find kernel image: linux [15:47] confrey (~dario@151.59.24.123) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Politics (~Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [15:48] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [15:50] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-170.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:50] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:51] you are testing Kde 4.4 rc2 or rc1, its normal freeze sometimes? [15:51] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [15:51] im pressing alt-f2 but no window to run a command, other freeze is kmess. [15:52] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [15:53] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:54] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [15:54] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Client Quit [15:55] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Politics (~Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] powtrix: yes, I have seen that. [15:59] The run thingie has segfaulted on me more than once [16:01] PiCkSiE (~M.M@189.186.170.194) joined ##slackware. [16:02] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:03] Nick change: emma_ -> emma [16:04] thrice`: strange, had not noticed that [16:05] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.13.103) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:05] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.145.65) joined ##slackware. [16:07] LTL2h (~lulu@AToulouse-258-1-3-194.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:08] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:08] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] righteous (righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left ##slackware. [16:12] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-26-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[16:41] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:45] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:47] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-45.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:47] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-212.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [16:48] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:49] any of you guys now how i can install packet tracer in slackware? [16:49] LOL [16:49] pakkit kiddie [16:49] 0.o [16:49] khamsin (~khamsin@65.91.210.171) joined ##slackware. [16:50] if you have to ask on irc how toinstall something, you have no business running it [16:50] there isnt a slackbuild. so i thought i'd try get a quick answer of someone, however i got trolled by a cunt... thanks for that :D [16:51] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-30-117.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:51] any time. [16:51] lol you probably dont know how to do it anyway :P [16:51] Probably [16:51] Action: mel0n is off to google! [16:51] hey quick question is there anyway i can mount my windows partition so that i will have write access to it? , wanna instal something so was thinking of using wine and install it on the mounted disk [16:52] You mean something like wireshark? [16:52] macius: mount -t ntfs-3g [16:52] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [16:52] alienBOB i mean this little program [16:52] http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/netacad/course_catalog/PacketTracer.html [16:54] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-212.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:54] Like this? http://abimayu.com/2009/05/24/install-packet-tracer-5/ [16:55] ah, thank you good sir, glad to see some people actually help :D [16:55] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.28.29) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:55] If it is a binary package, tehre is probably not much to install [16:55] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:55] alienBob: ty :) [16:56] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:57] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-81.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:57] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-30-117.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:58] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:59] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [17:00] hey guys if i only have 2G ram is there any point useing a 64-bit OS --Slackware? [17:01] is there any point not running a 64bit OS when your CPU supports it? [17:01] unless you need a bunch of 32bit only apps the answer to the above question is always no [17:01] Not enough memory [17:02] Chameleon: I wouldn't [17:02] not enough memory for what? [17:02] 64-bit OSs use more memory [17:02] yay i got it working (packet tracer) [17:02] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:02] and 2gb isnt enough for what? [17:03] video editing maybe [17:03] 2GB may be cramped if you run kde4 and firefox with a decent ammount of tabs [17:03] deadbyerdos (~xVerseS@bl5-18-8.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Or any kind of medium workload [17:03] i run 2gb and its fine [17:03] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-28-150.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-146.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] i found setleds i think it will do my numlock for me on login :) thanks #slackware bbl [17:04] Guys, what kernel should I boot for an i686 CPU? [17:04] My main 64-bit laptop has 1GB of RAM, and I run Slackware64 with KDE4 on it all the time. Never a problem with memory [17:04] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] deadbyerdos: pick any kernel [17:04] I have a couple of 2GB machines running 64-bit and its painful [17:04] 1GB is fine. With 512MB, you might run out. [17:04] straterra: slackware64? [17:05] alienBOB, huge.s seems not to work :o [17:05] Both aren't slackware [17:05] You're out [17:05] alienBOB it dont make anything faster does it [17:05] 64-bit can be faster due to more available registers [17:05] Chameleon: of course a 64-bit OS can make certain things faster [17:05] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-81.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:05] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [17:05] haha [17:06] alienBOB even with only 2G ram ? [17:06] rendering video rocks on 64bit. or at least, moreso than on 32bit. i don't know that it ever really rocks. [17:06] Hell, I have 1 GB as I stated. Even then [17:06] I'd never go back to less than 2GB with any 64-bit OS [17:07] Action: alienBOB does not share the sentiment [17:07] Depends entirely on what hardware you have [17:07] so even runing win 7 64-bit on 2G ram will still go faster than a 32-bit [17:07] Not at all [17:07] That would be even more painful [17:08] Chameleon: why Windows7 all of a sudden? [17:08] iam just trying to understand the 64-bit stuff [17:08] And I also said "a 64-bit OS can make *certain* things faster". Not everything per se [17:08] it seems it's all about how much ram you can use [17:08] No [17:08] GaRLiK (~garlik@151.65.194.163) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:09] Not at all [17:09] Like I said, you have more general purpose registers to use [17:11] i want to know if i can duel boot windows 7 & Slackware on 2 different IDE HDDs [17:11] you know what's painful? fixing this person's windows computer they dropped off. [17:11] that is my last question [17:11] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:11] jeev, just format [17:12] jeev, my answer for when windows brakes [17:12] Chameleon yep [17:12] can't format this man [17:13] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [17:13] PiCkSiE, so i can duel boot on 2 different HDD sweet i have a lot of work to do then [17:13] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:14] jeev, why not thay need files from off it ? [17:14] macavity: the slackware usb version you advised takes ages to boot [17:14] Chameleon man /etc/lilo.conf [17:14] PiCkSiE, i cant use grub ? [17:15] paul424: use it to boot the *system* like you used the DVD [17:15] Chameleon yes too [17:15] PiCkSiE, thank you [17:16] thank you all for you support [17:16] paul424: but since you already went ahead i figure you already found out how the /etc/fstab problem works? [17:16] macavity: I run with options root= /dev/hda3 nordint= ro init = 3 [17:16] going to see what i can do with the old parts laying around the house *Grins* [17:16] Chameleon uw [17:16] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:17] paul424: i figure no space after root= [17:17] Coolmax (~mateusz@jupiter.ath.bielsko.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:17] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] and init = 3 is surely wrong [17:17] nvision (~nvision@g225062113.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:17] and nordinit= is total crap you just made up [17:18] basically... you are still not listening (or making notes if you have memory problems) [17:18] cham, i'm too lazy i'd rather sit arund and watch it move than format it [17:18] paul424: also, with the new kernel, it wont be called hda3 but sda3 [17:18] paul424: as that is the entire point of this exercise [17:19] paul424: so, root=/dev/sda3 rdinit= ro [17:19] macavity: I feel stupid ok [17:19] paul424: and tell me that it bitches at you because rc.S cant mount root properly because the device node changed [17:19] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:20] paul424: this is not a "stupid vs non-stupid" exercise.. the problem is that you dont stay focused, and you go AWOL for forty minutes without telling me [17:21] paul424: that is rude.. of course i could chage you $75/h if that motivates you to stay responsive [17:21] uhh I will try to be better than this ... [17:21] good [17:22] macavity: btw : how does long this usb boot should take ? [17:22] did you use the -f option with that script? [17:23] no [17:23] do so.. it never worked for me with my own partition tables and formates [17:23] *formats [17:24] it wasn't me who prepared it , the dude in my dormitory wanted to be smarter than script and he prepared it on its own [17:24] so, fetch the DVD, boot into the system with root=/dev/hda3 rdinit= ro [17:24] idiot.. [17:24] kick his ass from me [17:24] whats his name, and does he hang out in here? [17:24] or is he some random nubibuntard? [17:24] nope, but he is admistrator in our dormitory :P [17:25] tell him he will revice a bill in the mail for $40 for wasting my time ;-) [17:25] he likes to spy what people are doing on the internet , yeah I will , brb [17:30] vehn_z (~vehn_z@62.133.181.40) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:30] Greetings Programs! [17:30] greetings bug [17:31] :) [17:32] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:32] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [17:33] greetings NyteOwl [17:33] hi fire|bird [17:34] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 259 seconds [17:34] Moving from 12.1 to 13 solved the problem of the invisible Marvell IDE controller I was having. :0 [17:34] though having a PATA drive reported as SATA is a bit unerving :) [17:36] why [17:36] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:36] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [17:37] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [17:37] because it shouldn't happen. it's inco0rrect reporting of hardware [17:37] incorrect according to what? [17:37] well lets see - PATA reported as SATA? what could be wrong with that hmmmm [17:38] same thing you allege is wrong with sata being scsi, usb being scsi... [17:38] huh? [17:39] oh yes. that is wrong as well anyway [17:39] exaxctly what I said when you stated incorrect reporting [17:40] incorrect reporting is incorrect reporting. key word is incorrect. at least it will now find the damn drive [17:40] tell that to the lkml hahaha [17:41] NyteOwl: you're gonna have a ball when -current goes gold ;) [17:42] BP{k}: heh [17:42] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:43] nvision (~nvision@g225062113.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:46] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:06] iftop is a start [18:06] lsof -Pni also shows network connections [18:07] thanks [18:08] greetings andarius, how are you? [18:08] salutations fire|bird, I am well. you ? [18:08] I am excellent, thank you. :) [18:08] felicitations andarius [18:09] Nick change: deadbyerdos -> xverse [18:09] hrmfs and here I though change from one ibm netvista 8307-13g to a 8198-75g would be a straight swap, big mistake, the used 82801DB PRO/100 VE forced me to rmmod and the modprobe it back in for it work [18:09] salutations NyteOwl [18:09] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.28.29) joined ##slackware. [18:10] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.34) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [18:10] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:11] andarius: what's new? [18:11] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:12] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:12] not much. actualy nothing for me. you ? [18:13] hey how can i refresh my panel? i just tried kill the plasma-desktop process but am incapable of starting it now [18:13] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:13] confrey (~dario@151.59.24.123) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [18:13] not much. Slack 13 will detect that IDE harddrive and access it but reports it as SATA. go figure :) At elast it's useable though. [18:13] unless you want some snow? [18:14] Action: andarius would love some snow. about 4 feet would be nice [18:14] ground is all white again after almsot a month of green alwns [18:14] wont mind doing a restart, but i just assumed that would refresh it lol, yeah im using kde, should've mentioned that prior [18:14] andarius: I'll send you any future snowfalls then :) [18:14] sweet [18:15] I liek a bit around Christmas and new years othe rthan that - no thanks :) [18:15] you're always welcome to come shovel any I do get :) [18:15] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:15] I dont shovel it, that would be a waste [18:19] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:20] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-170.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [18:21] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] dangerseeker (~dangersee@p57A8D362.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:29] ok brb [18:29] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [18:30] Dominian, are you around? [18:30] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:30] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:31] AEnima1577 (clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left ##slackware. [18:33] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:33] eddief (~root@pool-68-161-221-77.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:33] eddief kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [18:33] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:34] nachox: have you noticed the influx of new spammers on freenode? [18:34] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [18:34] nachox: well, since the js exploit is not effective any more, that is. [18:35] thumbs, yes, that is what i wanted Dominian for, i've seen one of those [18:35] im also looking in because i dont want him here [18:35] nachox: just had to ban a few in other channels. [18:39] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:41] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-30-213.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:46] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:46] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-150.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:46] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [18:47] nachox: sup? [18:47] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:47] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] Dominian, i think the GNAA guys are back [18:48] haha. so i bought this bottle of apple juice, and i left it in my living room unopened for like a month, and i went to open it the other day hoping it'd turned to liquor, and get this-- it was carbonated. [18:48] Action: ikonia fixes his ati card [18:48] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:48] i just thought i'd share. it's so cool. [18:48] oh look, it's douchebag ikonia, shouldn't you be in #ubuntu? [18:48] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.57.238) joined ##slackware. [18:49] Dominian, someone by the name of AcEr was spamming other channels [18:49] nachox: #mysql, amongst others. [18:49] lol [18:49] I think that guy was klined [18:49] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:49] chimpout junk.. hit #freenode as well [18:49] he did [18:50] Action: righteous kicks ikonia in his ubuntalls [18:50] righteous: put a lit on it.... [18:51] s/lit/lid/ [18:51] fire|bird: you too :P [18:51] lol [18:51] Action: righteous makes sure it's lit, then throws it [18:51] Dominian, so has spam improved with the migration? [18:52] or, same sh!t different day? [18:52] how does one improve spam. [18:52] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.143) joined ##slackware. [18:52] s/improved/dropped/ [18:52] feinom (~feinom@svale.hia.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:52] dive: spammers will find ways around everything. [18:52] did you mean spam reduction? [18:52] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:52] dive: however, the flooding from before will not happen any more. [18:52] the only way to combat spam is to accept it and compromise. [18:53] dive: same stuff diffrerent day hehe [18:53] although Im' not sure what's caued the 'group's involved to increase their activity [18:53] efnet was gettin ghit pretty hard as well [18:53] oh hey, btw, the applejuice experiment was totally successful, I'm tanked lol [18:54] Dominian: i know those guys'; I'll get on their private IRC and see if anyone says anything [18:54] (dont ask) [18:55] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [18:55] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:55] righteous: eh? [18:55] Action: ikonia smells the bull [18:55] Dominian, probably it's a challenge to them [18:55] frankly I odn't care [18:55] dive: no thats not why they do what they do lol [18:55] Its just them having fun.. yes I have to uphold freenode policy etc which I'll do, but eventually they'll get bored.. I hope. [18:56] ikonia: why are you here, aren't you offtopic? [18:56] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:56] l00t- (~i-i3id3r_@20150145165.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:57] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.57.238) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:57] righteous, want to explain it then? [18:58] dive: yup. [18:58] The answer is highly complex, and is truncated as part of project L.O.L., which they do everything for. [18:59] Dominian, it's odd it's been years since we last had problems with them [18:59] nachox: agreed [18:59] nachox: not sure what the outrage is this time [18:59] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] I have a feeling in time they'll reveal the true reasoning etc and we can move on [19:00] Dominian, their member count got too low and they had to start the propaganda again? :P [19:00] I, for one, am for it. [19:00] haha who knows [19:01] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:01] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:01] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:02] feinom (~feinom@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [19:03] lol [19:03] well that's not obvious. [19:03] l00t- (~i-i3id3r_@20150145165.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:03] l00t- (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.108.241) joined ##slackware. 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[19:09] but no .so [19:09] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:10] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [19:11] macavity: slackware64 13.0 and I have :: usr/lib64/pkgconfig/libpci.pc usr/lib64/libpci.a [19:11] fadein_ (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) joined ##slackware. [19:12] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:13] l00t- (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.108.241) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:13] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:13] l00t- (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.84.168) joined ##slackware. [19:13] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [19:14] ok.. it compiles fine anyway.. just a stupid test that makes use of a depricated call :-) [19:15] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:15] its good that gnu ld can handle both static and dynamic linking in the same phase [19:16] fadein_ (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) left ##slackware. [19:19] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Razec (1000@187-27-211-215.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:23] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-87-191.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] I accidentally hard reset a box that was running the 30-mount fsck check. How bad is that? (ext3). [19:23] grazymax (~grazymax@host230-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:24] terrible. it is now likely to essplode :o [19:24] Seriously? [19:24] yup [19:24] Its online now... [19:24] is only a matter of time [19:24] You're making me uncomfortable. [19:25] wait till it essplodes. then you will be even more uncumfortable [19:25] don't sit on it [19:25] or near it [19:25] do a fsck [19:25] or touch it [19:26] dive, I realized what I did, and let it boot up a second time, and it did the fsck. lemme check logs...? [19:26] khamsin (khamsin@65.91.210.171) left ##slackware. [19:26] if it did a fsck anyway then that should be ok [19:26] But did the first fsck that got interrupted screw anything up likely? [19:27] if it did the seccond one would have caught it [19:27] totem (~audacity@unaffiliated/totem) joined ##slackware. [19:28] KABOOM !!! [19:28] fsck.ext3 is reliable and mature [19:28] ok. everything seems fine... [19:30] byteframe, if the filesystem is OK, does NOT mean your data is right! You need to check very carefully...! [19:30] dangerseeker, too late. macavity already made me feel secure. [19:32] byteframe, I only wanted to not put *too* much trust in fsck... you need to know what it does (and does well) to trust it. [19:32] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-213.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:33] dangerseeker, does it write to the filesystem? [19:33] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-166-209.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:33] byteframe, yes, but "the filesystem" is not "your data"! [19:34] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-130.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:34] vdvluc (~luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:34] I understand. [19:34] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-233-191.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:34] byteframe, don't get me wrong, but I doubt you get it... [19:35] http://serverfault.com/questions/57573/how-dangerous-is-it-to-interrupt-an-fsck [19:35] I think since the fsck wasn't being run because of a previous hard-reset, I should be good. [19:36] dangerseeker: what is the command for the ext4? fsck.ext4? [19:36] righteous (righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left ##slackware ("im done with you, douchebag."). [19:36] grazymax (~grazymax@host147-153-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:37] byteframe, Yes, thats right... you're very lucky. [19:37] Shizuo (shizuo@200-171-49-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:38] SLACKWARE IS THE BOTTOM OF THE PIT [19:38] MrZhi (~zhizaki@24-155-241-242.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: [19:38] IF YOU CONSIDER QUALITY AS THE MEASURABLE VARIABLE [19:38] I AM SORRY FOR BEING SINCERE [19:38] YOU GUYS ARE HERE JUST TO FEEL LEET [19:38] NOT FOR CRITICISM =[ [19:39] Shizuo, WHY ARE YOU YELLING?? [19:39] PLEASE CONTINUE WANKING [19:39] did some one just fart :( [19:39] lol [19:39] pupit, fsck *should* do the right thing, but if you know it's ext4, you can use "fsck.ext4" directly (that is what "fsck" would use automatically anyway). [19:39] Action: jescis kicks Shizuo in his OSs penis [19:39] Thanks [19:40] dangerseeker thanks [19:40] pupit: No problem, bro! We're here to help! [19:40] It's part of the joy! [19:40] you're welcome 8-) [19:40] dangerseeker: Thanks! [19:40] mernil? [19:40] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [19:41] Shizuo: who took the jam out of your donut? [19:41] Pearl [19:41] They needed it for some band [19:41] so you play some piano? [19:41] Only slime piano [19:41] Some piano is about to be learnt [19:43] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:44] dtanner (~dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:44] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) joined ##slackware. [19:45] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-26-138.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:46] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:46] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. 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[20:06] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:07] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:08] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: early snoozles, I gets some [20:12] Chapinha (0@201.53.192.12) joined ##slackware. [20:12] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:12] Chapinha kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: IRCing as root is dangerous. Please reference "IRCing as root" via google.com for further guidance. [20:13] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [20:13] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:16] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [20:16] Hey there, matu [20:16] Feel welcome [20:16] hi ! [20:17] m0n-Eh (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-153-68.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:17] is there a way to avoid ban ? [20:17] act civil [20:18] And we're a Windows-friendly channel, please don't bash Windows for no reason [20:20] i only love new mac with removable batteries [20:20] Then you're ok [20:20] xverse (~xVerseS@bl5-18-8.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:21] must be a full moon [20:21] Shizuo: step away from the crack pipe. [20:21] Crap pipe? [20:21] NyteOwl: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full) [20:22] ;) [20:22] asamoah (~caio@190.244.48.8) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:22] fire|bird: close enough :) [20:22] i just wanted the sleepy channel to wake up [20:22] is there an echo in here? [20:23] hey chopp. did you ever decide on a phone? [20:23] NyteOwl: close enough indeed. :) [20:23] do you mean a smart phone ? [20:24] We approve Windows Mobile® for Smartphones [20:24] beurk :p [20:24] NyteOwl: no I didn't actualy, some other expenses came up. :( [20:24] what did you plan to buy ? [20:24] chopp: happens :) [20:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-118.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:30] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-228.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:31] did you try this ? http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10615 [20:31] The Goggles, They Do Something [20:32] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:32] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [20:33] awesome [20:33] rly [20:33] pity there is no nueral input [20:33] are you interested in buying them ? [20:33] not really, i'm happy with my 23" lcd :) [20:33] I wont [20:33] a few model are available [20:33] Not if it runs Linux [20:34] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!root@* expired. [20:34] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:34] i could be able to watch movies during a long time using my netbook... [20:34] Just buy a projector [20:34] and a big external screen [20:35] Yes [20:35] ah sure but i cant take the projector when i am taking the train [20:35] Don't be a crybaby [20:35] Dominian: ping [20:35] night all [20:35] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [20:36] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] Is it rude to answer "night all" with "Just leave already"? [20:36] yes [20:36] :P [20:36] Oh, ok [20:36] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:37] y, would u ask? [20:37] night NyteOwl [20:37] crashdata: Was it Scottish? [20:40] crashdata: Because I was curious [20:43] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] is it possible to install a x32 browser on a multilib system? [20:45] Only if the Lord Jesus blesses it [20:45] :) [20:46] your saying, no? [20:46] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:46] Depends [20:46] Are you a devil worshipper? [20:46] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [20:46] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:47] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [20:48] i'm not a devil worshiper... [20:48] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:48] Do you accept the Lord Jesus as your saviour? [20:48] ????? [20:49] am i being converted :)... [20:49] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [20:49] by the way i'm christian... [20:49] I'm Shizuo [20:49] not that it matters.. [20:49] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:49] Nice to meet you, chris [20:49] Can I call you chris? [20:49] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:49] with the question i ask... [20:50] no, you may not [20:50] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Client Quit [20:50] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:50] go to bed kid..... [20:50] seems like you need it [20:50] Why? [20:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] dangerseeker (~dangersee@p57A8D362.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:53] sounds like your bored or very tired [20:53] My bored is nos tired [20:53] s/nos/not [20:54] take this offtopic ramble somewhere else please. We do not care. [20:54] I can't hear you [20:54] BP{k}, can u tell me if it is possible to install a x32 browser to a multilib system? [20:55] Yeah, tell him [20:55] Aren't you all smart? [20:55] crashdata: I am sure it is possible yes. [20:56] thanks [20:56] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Yeah! Thanks! [20:56] Show him! [20:56] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:56] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc86ZXFsriM [20:59] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Quit: Use the x, guy [21:01] confusid (~confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:03] thumbs: pong [21:03] Dominian: I found the channel mode - thanks. [21:04] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-228.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:04] k [21:06] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [21:07] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) left irc: Client Quit [21:08] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [21:08] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:09] My sole machine is a slackware 13 laptop, but frequently I need to run several dna sequence alignment programs which are only available for either mac or win32. Is VMWARE my solution? [21:09] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-170.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [21:09] Just stop being anal [21:09] And run the app you need at the supported OS [21:09] cryptic0: I would use virtualbox instead [21:10] Shizuo: It's not that I am anal, but I can't constantly switch back adn forth between linux, mac and win32 [21:10] I mean, we got it [21:10] You're leet AND rigid [21:10] "'Slackware-13-only-notebook" [21:10] Oh god, what a purist [21:10] Can I stroke you? [21:10] bug off shizuo, you're not required to answer my quesetions,so f*** off [21:10] Is This Love [21:10] Whitesnake ® [21:10] You're here just for the sake of a collective back-tapping [21:11] Oh, we got it, you're awesome [21:11] NEXT! [21:11] I have a genuine question, and I am not interested in dealing with shitheads like you, so screw you. [21:11] go|dfish (~go|dfish@minerva.redbrick.dcu.ie) joined ##slackware. [21:11] Shizuo: I predict you'll be just another idiot that stopped in ##slackware soon. [21:11] go take your anger out somewhere else [21:11] cryptic0: Yeah, man! [21:12] cryptic0: Fight the power! [21:12] cryptic0: We like you now [21:12] cryptic0: You're one of us! [21:12] someone kick that jack*ss out [21:12] Oh god, he's a purist [21:12] I'm wet [21:12] I'm sorry [21:13] But you're trying to fool us that a leet slackware-using purist cannot choose a VM solution on its own [21:13] It's like saying Einstein is a retard and can't properly sum [21:13] Shizuo: that's enough. [21:13] thumbs: please elaborate on what you mean by virtualbox [21:13] cryptic0: you never heard of virtualbox? [21:14] frankly, no [21:14] but let me google [21:14] cryptic0: google it. [21:14] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-151-41-43.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:14] He's fooling us around, thumbs [21:14] Shizuo: Everything you've said is really cheesy. I'd be red in the face if I were you. Quit while you're behind [21:14] I'm sorry for being too honest, sometimes that's just me [21:14] Shizuo: you should really shut up now. You're not contributing anything remotely positive to the channel. [21:15] If you consider the absolute value of my contributions, I'm at the top 10 [21:15] cryptic0: hint: it's a nice, lean virtual machine manager. [21:15] thambs: thanks a lot. I am reading up :) [21:16] cryptic0: there's even a slackbuild for it. [21:16] thumbs: you're kidding me, right? [21:16] no. [21:16] cryptic0: no. [21:16] Oh god, this conversation looks like a friggin infomercial [21:17] "Oh god, this is really good!" [21:17] PiCkSiE (~M.M@189.186.170.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:17] "It wil solve my problems!" [21:17] Shizuo: will you shut up? [21:17] where are the OPs? [21:17] "Thanks guys! I really love the joy of Virtualbox®!" [21:17] Best to ignore [21:17] seriously, shut the fuck up. you're a moron [21:18] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Nothing sucks for an attention craver than to be ignored.. [21:18] subvhome (~substance@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:19] gartt: you're right, of course. [21:20] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:20] PiCkSiE (~M.M@189.186.170.194) joined ##slackware. [21:22] PiCkSiE (~M.M@189.186.170.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:24] is he always here? [21:25] who? [21:25] the shiz [21:25] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:25] GilbertOne-Di-La (~M.M@189.186.170.194) joined ##slackware. [21:25] oh, i have him on ignore.. thats probably why the conversation looked so odd [21:25] thumbs, is it true you're an oper on irc.microsoft.com ? [21:25] jeev: no. [21:25] tuvok302Lappy (~vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-99.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Not here so much but hangs out in ##linux frequently. [21:25] ok.. strange night.. [21:25] stupid macavity, stop lying to me [21:26] macavity, oh :) [21:26] jeev: nice try... almost an 0.1 out of 10 [21:26] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@200-171-49-211.dsl.telesp.net.br' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:26] yea right [21:26] Shizuo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: The kids on the short bus always liked you because you made them feel smart, right? [21:26] hi rworkman :-) [21:26] HAHA [21:26] :) [21:26] rworkman: thanks [21:27] i can usually tell by the banmsg who is behind :P [21:27] And aced the kick message. ;) [21:27] Well, I try to hide it. ;-) [21:28] haha [21:29] im off to read some terry pratchett :) good night all :) [21:29] btw, "the short bus" joke.. is that a common phrase in the US, or is it a ##slackware specific? [21:29] nn pupit [21:29] macavity: US [21:29] too bad.. id like to have had attributed it to you in my memorandum :P [21:30] macavity: I guess. My poor little brother used to live way out in the woods, and used to go to school in a short bus, so I used to bust on him about it- the poor little kid would get so mad [21:30] it's teh bus for those who are told by their mummies they are teh speshul. ;-) [21:30] lol [21:30] But what can I say? He took the short bus, heh [21:30] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-18-17.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:32] matu: /c [21:32] oops [21:32] hi ! [21:32] That was an accident. [21:32] np [21:33] rworkman: pwnt by the mighty Tab? [21:33] I was debating whether or not to question you about the timing of your "how to avoid ban" comment. [21:33] macavity: as usual, yes. [21:33] anyway it is not a good think staying here when being disconnected lol [21:33] s/think/thing [21:34] go|dfish (go|dfish@minerva.redbrick.dcu.ie) left ##slackware ("Guidos."). [21:36] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:36] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:36] too bad that tab mistake didn't end in the forceful departure of macavity [21:37] Action: macavity hands jeev a rose [21:37] i love you too buddy :-) [21:37] i didn't ask for a rose [21:37] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:37] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [21:37] no, you are just grinding your axe as usual [21:37] what gets one op status on this channel :D ? [21:38] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] Not smileys [21:38] i decide who gets op cryptic0, if you want Op, you can buy it via paypal [21:38] payment has to clear [21:38] $500 per second. [21:38] cryptic0: long years of faithfull community support and a hefty bribe to the church of subgenius :P [21:39] jeev: who do you wanna see be an op? [21:39] alisonken1home [21:40] i could vouch for him too [21:40] Action: jeev bashes macavity's head in with straterra's ego [21:40] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.13.117.150) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:40] No Zordrak? [21:41] jeev: keep it up.. seriously, keep it up [21:41] straterra, i dunno who zordrak is [21:41] Yes you do [21:42] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-17.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:42] i'm sorry i dont know who Zordrak is. [21:42] lets see... who would make a good op, thrice`, eviljames, fire|bird, even macavity would do [21:42] wow! [21:42] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:42] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.13.117.150) joined ##slackware. [21:42] I vote for Shizuo. And Pedro [21:42] lol [21:42] that would be fun [21:43] who is pedro [21:43] i would make a great op, vote for me [21:43] hehe [21:43] the guys who runs backtrack3 and windows, but keeps comming here asking questions [21:43] lol [21:43] jeev: The goofy kid from Napoleon Dynomite [21:43] i think he hates me.. [21:43] where i can vote for op? [21:43] Well, one of the goofy kids.. [21:43] napolean dynamic was ok [21:43] GilbertOne-Di-La: you cant [21:43] http://127.0.0.1 [21:43] hagev at it [21:43] now [21:44] "macavity" why not? [21:44] GilbertOne-Di-La: You text it in with your phone, just like in your favorite reality show or American Idol [21:44] http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html [21:44] that's the petition for OP [21:44] GilbertOne-Di-La: becasue this place does not elect is ops [21:44] there's 247k signatures not votnig for me [21:44] GilbertOne-Di-La: they are appointed by the current ops [21:44] macavity ok 10x [21:45] bacon & egg knish and baklava for desert [21:45] i've never had knish [21:45] baklava is way too strong [21:45] knish? that sounds like the sound you make when you try not to sneeze out too loud :P [21:45] what is it? [21:45] lol! [21:46] is there a gnome equivalent? (gnish?) [21:46] a jewish food, but it is not so kosher when i make em with bacon [21:46] lol [21:46] lol [21:46] mmm, bagels with cream cheese and bacon are good, too [21:46] that sounds like the perfect recipie for cardiac arrest [21:47] Urchlay, did you get my message about the site [21:47] thats why you should drink booze, the alcohol keeps the bacon grease washed out of your blood [21:47] Pig_Pen, i know a few jewish people who pretend they're not jewish when they pound pork [21:47] jeev: yeah. What happened though? [21:47] pork is good, like decent pork... bacon is sick [21:48] Urchlay, i cancelled that, i took on almost 2k/month of more cost in another datacenter so i dumped that [21:48] i'll have you on something else soon [21:48] bacon is good.. [21:48] i used to enjoy bacon until lately it's been too burned and weird tasting [21:48] i been buying this slab bacon (you have yo slice it yourself) it is so smokey that when it is cooking it makes the house smell like a forest fire [21:48] heh [21:48] Pig_Pen, how many stomachs do you have [21:49] one really big one [21:49] hahaha, what's it matter, my girlfriend eats everything she wants and she's underweight [21:49] oooh man, so many options for that one [21:49] thrice`, which one, op ? [21:50] just wait, i used to be as skinny as a fence post until i got over fourty, now i got a tummy growing, old age does it to most people [21:50] Razec (1000@187-27-211-215.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:50] let me guess, everyone but me [21:50] no, to your girlfriend "not getting enough to eat," "not getting filled up," etc [21:50] Pig_Pen, men dont say tummy [21:50] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:50] oh thrice`, doesn't matter really, she's still a virgin and i miss sex [21:50] i am secure in my sexuality that it does not make a dif [21:50] Pig_Pen, i'll kick her ass if she gains more than 15 lbs [21:51] quality guy [21:51] i didnt mean it literally [21:51] orly? :P [21:51] i dont hit women [21:52] That'll be really convenient if you ever get diagnosed with MPD [21:53] mohaa (~nome@92.49.83.240) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:53] i dont know anything about that [21:54] music player daemon? [21:54] myelosomething [21:54] multiple personality disorder [21:55] GilbertOne-Di-La (~M.M@189.186.170.194) left irc: Quit: ViRC 2.0pre4 [21:56] sort of like preemptive multitasking for the human brain [21:56] would be useful if only you could control it [21:56] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:57] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[22:12] subvhome (~substance@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:12] The irc server software [22:12] ah [22:13] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [22:13] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:15] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [22:15] kevin01123 (~kevin@2002:4751:4123:1234:221:6bff:fe01:8106) joined ##slackware. [22:19] tmm1 (~weechat@208-75-84-157.slicehost.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] Is there a way to change keys in a keymap? I've got a keyboard where there should be a right Ctrl key, there's a delete key, and it's not picking up the right Alt key either. [22:20] Axius (~ghi@92.84.4.46) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:21] kevin01123: what keyboard layout would you like to have? [22:22] eg, is it still a US keyboard, or something special? are you talking console or X? [22:23] macavity: Console. I've currently got it set to the us.map.gz in /usr/share/kbd, and it works for the most part. It's a few keys I need to change. I want the Del key to be treated as Ctrl, the right Alt key to be recognized, and the window list key to be the delete key. [22:23] Is there a config for editting keys? [22:24] let me see.. [22:24] escaflown1 (~elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:25] kevin01123: see keymaps(5), dumpkeys(1) and loadkeys(1) [22:26] macavity: Alright, thanks. [22:26] kevin01123: you can use dumpkeys > file; edit file; cat file | loadkeys [22:26] keymaps(5) describes how to edit file [22:28] macavity: The last bit, "cat foo | loadkeys," could you explain the syntax? I'm a little new to POSIX commands. [22:29] tint2 newest has autohide [22:30] kevin01123: showkey should help you too [22:30] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:30] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [22:30] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:31] kevin01123: "cat file" will just pour the file to your screen.. the pipe "|" means redirect to the next program instead of screen [22:31] hey alisonken1home [22:32] kevin01123: for a full expalation, see bash(1) and read the section called "redirection" [22:33] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:33] Or if you have all night to waste read the whole thing. [22:33] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [22:35] s/to waste// [22:35] really.. having read all of bash(1) can never ever come back and hurt you :P [22:36] even if most of it seems greek at first.. you will know later that you read $WHAT_WAS_THAT_AGAIN about something, and now where to look it up [22:36] anyhow.. time to crash [22:36] macavity (~macavity@212088073001.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:37] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-233.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:37] kaeser (~kaeser@unaffiliated/kaeser) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:38] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [22:38] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Client Quit [22:38] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:39] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:41] hey King_Ozzy [22:41] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. 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George Carlin [23:01] croto (~dd@2001:470:1f07:744:290:4bff:fe49:6bc5) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:01] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [23:01] IceChant|AFK (~icechant@94.159.232.80) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:01] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] thumbs: I am a little confused. Can you have both virtualbox host and client on the same machine? [23:02] croto (~dd@2001:470:1f07:744:290:4bff:fe49:6bc5) joined ##slackware. [23:03] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-58.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:03] huh [23:03] cryptic0: you machine would be the host. hosts have guests on them. so yes. [23:03] you want to run another virtualbox on a guest ? [23:03] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] s/you/your/ [23:04] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] unless i've misunderstood the question.. because if it's the other way around like jeev pointed out then, no. [23:04] agentc0re: thanks. I don't really know what I am doing here yet, but I only have only one machine, hence the question [23:04] cryptic0: fair enough. [23:04] You install virtualbox on your computer, then run virtualbox and install another OS (i.e. the guest) [23:04] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-215-220.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Then u run the new OS inside of virtualbox [23:05] I don't suppose it's possible to take a virtualbox hard drive image (with windows installed) and run it in kqemu or anything? [23:05] afu: so what is the difference between vb kernel and vb-ose? [23:05] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-233.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:05] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:06] cryptic: not sure Right now I run on Winders with linux guests [23:06] virtualbox-kernel is just the part of virtualbox that lives in kernel space. virtualbox-ose is the main application (which requires the kernel part, to run) [23:07] hitest (hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left ##slackware. [23:07] Mainly because I have to run Winders do to school issues [23:07] Urchlay: so basically I need both the packages, and the kernel should be installed first [23:07] also, do I need acpica? [23:07] they're separate packages mainly because the kernel part has to be upgraded when you upgrade your actual kernel, but the main app doesn't need to be [23:08] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] Urchlay: I see. glad you cleared that up. [23:08] you only need acpica when you build virtualbox-ose. You don't need it to install/run the resulting package (e.g. if you build the package on one box, then install it on another, the other box doesn't need acpica) [23:08] chetnick (~Safe_Hex@ip68-13-222-22.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] I guess I will be needing acpica then. [23:09] and really it doesn't matter whether you build/install the -kernel or -ose first [23:09] so, no dependency issues? [23:10] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Hello. [23:10] Hi. [23:10] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] heya,folks [23:11] well, the app in the -ose package won't *run* until the -kernel package is installed (and its rc.virtualbox script is run), but otherwise no [23:11] okay. [23:11] Urchlay: it should be possible to use your VB img in KVM. [23:12] cryptic0: You building from tarball? [23:12] Can a guest connect with host over intranet? [23:12] afu: no, slackbuilds has packages [23:12] cryptic0: Ah. Good info guys. [23:13] I do have a server box that does not have monitor and is just sitting for backups and such. Perhaps I should make it the virtualbox host and then connect from my laptop as a guest. [23:13] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-118.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:14] I have an odd problem, and it might end up being a hardware issue. The problem is with my Kensington si670m mouse, and the problem is that I can scroll with my middle wheel but not click it. [23:14] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-58.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:14] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:14] I've tried catting /dev/mouse and there's simply no activity when I click the mousewheel. [23:14] Will give VB a try on linux host soon. Works great on Vista and OSX. [23:14] agentc0re: I found a set of instructions for converting the vbox image into a qemu qcow image... I guess the real question is, will windows tolerate being moved from one to the other? (when running win2k on real hardware, I know sometimes it would catastrophically fail if you swapped motherboards) [23:14] godling, anything in xev? [23:15] damnit, I always forget about xev :) one second [23:16] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:16] shoot. no. :( [23:16] it's a tilt wheel, so there is activity when I tilt it back and forth but not when I click it straight down. :( [23:16] bleah, kqemu doesn't want to build (possibly because of my 2.6.31.6-rt19 kernel) [23:17] godling, anywhere on the screen? [23:17] kevin01123 (~kevin@2002:4751:4123:1234:221:6bff:fe01:8106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:17] Urchlay: you will get prompted for a few driver installs. i migrated live machines to vmware doing something similar. I also migrated vmware to Citrix XenServer. All those servers are still running afaik from 1/21/2010. :D [23:17] MLanden: pardon? [23:17] godling, was referring to any space on the screen [23:18] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [23:20] I'm sorry, I'm not certain what you're asking. xev doesn't seem to monitor the mouse when the pointer isn't over the window [23:20] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] also I've removed both the psmouse driver and gpm from memory to make sure nothing is conflicting [23:22] and I should mention that I can copy/paste with the emulated middle click on my touchpad (both buttons at once). [23:23] godling, sorry 'bout that...wasn't referring to xev...went back in the log and saw you already catted the dev [23:23] do you guys use 0:0 or 0:1 for the second ip on the same interface? which is proper [23:24] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:24] use what yout [23:24] use what you want, numbers start at :0 [23:25] ok [23:25] MLanden: I am thinking that perhaps I just dropped my mouse on its head or something [23:25] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] I just bought new batteries; haven't used the mouse for a few weeks. [23:26] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:27] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@200-171-49-211.dsl.telesp.net.br expired. [23:27] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@200-171-49-211.dsl.telesp.net.br' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:27] godling, that could do it....is it a battery hog? [23:27] absolutely :/ [23:28] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:28] I regret not getting a different one [23:28] but this one is so shiny [23:28] what is it, cordless mouse? [23:28] had an older logitech I used with windows xp and freebsd that loved batteries [23:28] bluetooth mouse Urchlay [23:29] I have to stick with mice that have cords, or else I lose them :( [23:29] eh [23:29] i use a usb mouse without wireless so i dont LOSE MY MIND [23:29] hasn't that ship already sailed? [23:29] whoever uses wireless keyboards or mice is a danger to themselves [23:29] ;P [23:29] har har [23:30] i'm the most stable person here [23:30] godling, there's a program called btnx that might help [23:30] is that because you're sitting on the biggest ass? [23:30] ;P [23:30] godling, i have a pretty regular ass [23:30] actually used to have a wireless mouse/keyboard for my old living-room media PC, but they were only needed for troubleshooting [23:30] BiynaYahu (~biynayahu@d207-216-195-161.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] MLanden: btnx? [23:31] godling http://www.ollisalonen.com/btnx/ [23:31] Urchlay: that's why I'm afraid to get sd cards and other small devices for my laptop. I always lose stuff. [23:32] godling, as stated it might help....YMMV..:P [23:32] ok, thank you for the suggestion [23:32] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:32] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] ach, no slackbuild! :/ [23:32] godling, i never even suggested suicide :( [23:34] afu (~afu@130.160.45.21) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:34] o_O [23:36] yeah, didn't make much sense to me either [23:36] :) [23:36] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-118.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:37] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:37] totem (~audacity@unaffiliated/totem) left irc: Quit: totem [23:39] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-154.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:42] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:43] kitche (~kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [23:43] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [23:43] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. 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