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[00:13] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [00:15] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:17] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [00:18] Action: silvergold whistles just to break the silence. :) [00:19] silvergold, hi night [00:19] Action: paissad is waiting for slack 13 [00:19] kleanchap (n=chatzill@port-83-236-141-218.static.qsc.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [00:19] y0 brklynRednek [00:19] i thought that it would be released for a while now :) [00:20] paissad, obviously not [00:20] silvergold, about to crash, just wanted to say hi [00:20] brklynRednek: :) [00:21] paissad: well, current changelog says it's rc1 now. :) [00:21] brklynRednek, i thought that there's a release about every 6 months , isn't it ? [00:21] paissad: no, slack is released when it's ready. [00:21] there is no set release cycle [00:21] paissad, that's fedora [00:21] ok, i see, thanks ! [00:21] fedora, ugh. :( [00:22] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:22] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:23] so, i think i should download and install the current [00:23] paissad: good idea. :D [00:23] I'm on current now. :) [00:24] :) [00:24] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:24] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [00:24] its a little different [00:25] paissad: alienBOB's mirror current script makes a nice current iso for you to install current. Slackware, it's like heaven on a hard drive. :) [00:26] ok [00:26] sirboderafael (n=sirboder@189.14.243.120) joined ##slackware. [00:26] paissad: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/ [00:27] thanks [00:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-170-14.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] bah, write one yourself like a real man ;) [00:28] you're welcome [00:28] BP{k}: we're not all like you. :) [00:28] silvergold: you mean, OCPD and insane? [00:28] yup. :) [00:28] I'm not the first to break the news to you, am I? [00:28] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:29] |m (n=imal@114.121.78.18) joined ##slackware. [00:29] silvergold: nah. I hear it on a regular bases from kethry. ;) [00:30] haha [00:30] sirboderafael (n=sirboder@189.14.243.120) left ##slackware. [00:31] BP{k}: your day go well? [00:32] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.148.135) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [00:32] RFC: Anyone run across anything (e.g. wine) that needs ca-certificates? [00:32] silvergold: uhm in general; yes. Either my isp or slackware64-current is causing some fustrating wierdness when rc.inet1 starts. (ie not getting the rip ip address, adding silly routes etc) [00:33] define "silly routes" [00:33] 169/8 range? [00:34] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/WEcBm397.html [00:37] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Hrm, do "rc.inet1 eth0_restart" instead of a general restart; that way, you leave lo anone [00:37] er, alone [00:37] Not sure why that would cause a problem though [00:38] hi all. Install question. during my install of slackware 12.2 onto an old laptop, it seems to have hung or stopped during the step where it loads up linux source. (during CD2) Is there a way to start 'setup' from that place of loading CD2? [00:40] me neither, but never saw that on 12.2. I noticed this the first time I started testing 64-current. instead of 172.16.213.108 i would get a 172.16.213.81 addy, and no connection (my ISP is [as you probably know], less than clue/skillful and highly idiotic and moronic. [00:41] You might try adding the "-L" flag to the dhcpcd calls in rc.inet1 - that will eliminate the 169/8 crap from the equation [00:42] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:42] Re my ca-certificates RFC above: If so (and only if so), testing this to see if it fixes the problem would be *greatly* appreciated: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/ca-certificates/ [00:43] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] twolf_ (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [00:49] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:49] Nick change: twolf_ -> twolf [00:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:52] What do I do if xrandr doesnt show the native resolution of my external monitor? [00:53] The native resolution is 1680x1090ish and it only allows me to choose 1280x1024 [00:56] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] antler_ (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:58] 1680x1050 is a standard widescreen resolution [00:59] right, 1680x1050 [01:00] Though, xrandr doesnt see it [01:01] http://pastebin.ca/1481536 [01:03] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:05] usus12jari (n=sardinem@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:05] usus12jari (n=sardinem@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [01:07] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:09] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:14] |m (n=imal@114.121.78.18) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:15] any advice on how I can restart 'setup' partway through? I'd like to be able to restart it from the point of inserting CD2 [01:16] (I should add this was two days ago when it stopped at the linux source step, and the machine had to be powered down in that time) [01:16] so from cold boot, how I can restart 'setup' partway through? [01:17] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:24] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [01:24] something wrong with irc? all the channels that are usually full of traffic are sllooowww tonight [01:24] including this one [01:27] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [01:27] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:27] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [01:30] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:30] ha ha ha [01:30] http://cpunches.tumblr.com/post/133939018/the-ironkey-challenge-will-it-be-answered [01:32] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-66-155-176.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:35] you think they'll take me up on it? [01:35] if they do, i'll totally keep people here updated on it, it would be a great plug for slackware linux [01:36] XandriX2 (n=xandrix@dsl-134-193.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:39] I'm sorry to keep asking, but is there a way I can restart the 'setup' program at the point where CD2 is indicated? The machine seemed to hang at the linux source step, and had to be powered off. Now it boots up with the old distro's bootloader options. Can I use CD1 to start setup again without starting the entire installation over? [01:39] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:40] dartmouth: damn didn't even know you change your nick until now. always thought you went as cpunches.. wtf?! [01:40] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [01:41] agentc0re1: i thought it would be good for my image lol [01:41] people like dartmouth a little more than they like cpunches. ketchup and mustard, man. [01:42] tbh i was putting dartmouth close to the ranking of jeev... [01:42] who? [01:42] LOL [01:42] hahaha [01:42] Now that i know though.. You've totally earned higher in my book! :D :P [01:42] dartmouth: what image would that be? [01:43] jeev = dumber than the dumbest shit eating shit producing shit eater. [01:43] agentc0re1: you know the nick I was, don't you? I recently changed. [01:43] silvergold: Gayman? ;) [01:43] hahahaha, nope. [01:43] silvergold: firebird619, i know.. you need to change though. [01:44] that was dartmouth's BEFORE the cpunches nick. [01:44] no it wasn't [01:44] oh wait [01:44] silvergold: this one just seems.. weird. Reminds me of the hackers movie too much and the dood that couldn't figure out what his "handle" would be. [01:44] i know what you're talking about [01:44] that never happened :) [01:44] hahahahaha [01:44] dude I was like....17 [01:44] agentc0re1: suggestions? What was that one you mentioned the other day, started with an a? [01:44] that's what SHE said [01:45] dartmouth: it's alright, we forgive you, you were just experimenting. [01:45] hah [01:45] fire bird in filipino [01:45] okay, I'll go back to sleep now. [01:45] no i am done with the whole...painting myself blue and starting infowars with parody occults [01:45] agentc0re1: yeah, do you remember the translation? I can try and find it otherwise. [01:45] thing [01:46] dartmouth: then why'd you change your name? ;) [01:46] dartmouth: thank gosh, because that phase was annoying. :) [01:46] eh, im just glad its over. i totally won, though. [01:46] silvergold: it means firebird. just look up google translation and do english to filipino and type in "fire bird" [01:46] anyone? [01:46] im just sayin'. [01:46] i mashed the whole word together though. [01:46] agentc0re1: doing so now. :) thanks. [01:47] Hmm, it gives firebird as the translation. :P good job google. [01:47] anyway i hope ironkey takes me up on that challenge, any of you guys wanna help out, or be around in case I get stuck if they do? [01:48] silvergold: http://translate.google.com/translate_t#en|tl|fire%20bird [01:48] it looks like it's going to be an adventure if it works out anyway [01:48] dartmouth: I hope so too. [01:48] im thinking you can bypass all that software security shit at a hardware level [01:48] agentc0re1: :P, thanks. [01:48] then just take their shit and email them, "SUCKERS!!! BREAK IT NOW!!?!?" [01:49] add in expletives as you wish.. [01:49] Nick change: silvergold -> apoynaibon [01:49] they said it's a hardware encryption chip, so im assuming it encrypts the filesystem as it is writing, thinking thats some kind of magicness, not realizing you can just put a well shaped paperclip around the hot spots to make it always be on when reading back out [01:49] Hmm, this work or should I separate the words. [01:50] Eh, i don't speak Filipino... sorry. [01:50] hahaha [01:50] :P [01:50] I don't either [01:51] æÙäÕè ÔÐé <---fireb bird in hebrew for those that have utf enabled. [01:51] wow. [01:51] malaisian is what it looks like to me [01:51] looks cool as far as writing. [01:51] apoynaibon's nick i mean [01:51] agentc0re1: yeah, what does that look like to non-utf enabled people though? [01:51] it looks like this: [][][][][][][][][][] [01:52] dartmouth: that's what you see? [01:52] no [01:52] thats what it looks lke to non-utf8 people [01:52] dang, because that would have been hilarious. [01:52] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:52] apoynaibon: is that malaysian? [01:53] filipino [01:53] not the hebrew, your name [01:53] oh [01:53] ...same diff.... [01:53] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-134-193.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:53] My real name's origins is hebrew though. [01:53] Action: dartmouth starts whistling to the tune of 'if i were a rich man'.... [01:53] Hmm, wait a second, firebird (without numbers) is registered, but I think I'm the one that registered it. [01:54] yabba dabba dabba dedle dedle doooo....bum-bum-bummmm-bum [01:54] I'm gonna test it here [01:54] god im going to have that whole soundtrack stuck in my head all night now [01:54] agentc0re1: seriously though, does this nick seem better than silvergold? [01:55] and if it's in my head, here is payback: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHZFYpQ6nc [01:57] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [01:57] Hmm, wait a second, this firebird that's registered is Firebird, does that mean I can still have firebird? <---with no caps [01:58] Nick change: apoynaibon -> firebird619 [01:58] obnauticus is stalking me [01:58] :D [01:58] :) [01:58] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.36.234) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] dartmouth: how so? [01:58] Nick change: firebird619 -> Guest44865 [01:58] whoops [01:58] haha [01:58] fail [01:58] Nick change: Guest44865 -> silvergold [01:59] dartmouth: I own that nick too, I just didn't get identified in time [01:59] reminds me of that time someone posted their nickserv pass in here [01:59] oh, lord, it was ugly [01:59] like you? :) [01:59] that's happened more than once [01:59] sGun (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:00] Hmm, nope, I guess it wasn't me that registered firebird. [02:00] did anyone else have '/ghost _' waiting in their message line as soon as I said that in case someone did it? [02:00] If I used that hebrew name, haha, imagine people trying to tab complete that. :) [02:00] oh dude [02:00] I'd have alot of angry people trying to find me. [02:00] i'd put you in my killfile so fast. [02:01] that would be friggen hilarious though. :) [02:01] i dont have an anti-semetic chat client or anything [02:01] its just a pain [02:01] Somewhere, I should be able to find the english spelling of that. [02:01] any hebrew experts in here? [02:01] I am [02:02] orly? [02:02] ok, no, not really. It just felt good to say that. [02:02] I know, you wanted to say you're good a something for once. :) [02:02] hah [02:03] hmm... Is anyone using kmail/kontact here ? [02:03] yes. [02:03] whoa, fire bird in danish, by google translation, is: [02:03] brand fugl [02:03] nice [02:03] BP{k}: do you use imap with it? [02:03] silvergold: nope. [02:03] or rather not yet. :) [02:03] do you experience super slow and ressource consumming kmail recently ? [02:03] BP{k}: Ugh, for me anyway, it's a friggen pain in the rear, I've been using claws. [02:03] Arno[Slack]: you mean on kde4? [02:03] (I believe since the KDE part have been updated in current) [02:04] yes [02:04] Arno[Slack]: I don't here, it's really fast. [02:04] damn [02:04] Action: dartmouth is starting to think there are some gfx hardware brand preferences in kde4 [02:04] sGun (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] since I updated my kmail is doing lots of disk access and takes one core for himself [02:05] sGun_ (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] oh, man, you've got it all wrong [02:05] I mean 100% of a CPU core [02:05] kmail is a chick. i mean think about the mechanics of what she does. [02:06] haha [02:06] Arno[Slack]: well since you didn't mention it. personally i am not that fond of KDE4 and are prolly switching over completly to xfce. [02:07] sGun_ (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:07] and I haven't used Kmail/kontact on -current yet. so can't help you there. [02:07] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:07] BP{k}: yeah i replaces kde4 with ion3. if that says anything. [02:08] sGun (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:08] ok [02:08] personnally I like KDE4 so I'd rather fix this issue ^^ [02:08] but this is really a problem [02:08] sGun (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] and it's quite clear that it occurs after the recent changes in the kde4 libs [02:09] sGun__ (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:09] sGun_ (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] Arno[Slack]: hm can't help you there, sorry. [02:11] thanks anyway [02:11] i'll try to figure it out [02:11] sGun_ (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:11] sGun (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:11] sGun__ (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:12] silvergold: I am looking at claws .. just need to figure out how to import my mail from kmail -> claws [02:14] BP{k}: There's some scripts out there to do that. [02:15] BP{k}: http://www.claws-mail.org/tools/claws-mail_kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.tar.gz [02:18] BP{k}: also, if you're a fan of perl at all, claws has a plugin to make e-mail filters using perl. [02:19] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [02:19] sorenp1 (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[02:32] sQuEE` (n=narya@host87.201-252-16.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:32] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] wow :) [02:34] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-16-38.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:35] sQuEE` (n=narya@host185.201-253-139.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [02:35] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:35] Rat409: that's in the changelog too. It's awesome news. [02:35] yup very good news [02:36] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [02:38] and on this good note,time to crash. be well all. [02:39] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:39] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:40] BP{k}: another thing with claws (which you maybe know) is that if you want to view html e-mails (if you get any) you need either the dillo or gtkhtml2viewer plugins, and, you can't compose html e-mail at all. [02:43] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:45] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:46] lain__ (n=no_se_mi@host116.200-117-32.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:48] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:48] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-182-77.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:48] edman007: yeah, I like men, now, come closer :) [02:48] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [02:49] todo : remind dartmouth of the us independence war [02:49] silvergold: and not being able to compose html is bad, how ;) [02:50] anyway, that anti-french moment war lächerlich :) [02:53] powtrix__ (n=powtrix@189-69-27-43.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:55] BP{k}: It isn't, just thought I'd mention that, because some people do compose with html, etc. :) [02:55] C_Tux: y0, I ran sunspider on midori, arora, FF 3.5, and Opera 10 snapshot. :D [02:56] lain__ (n=no_se_mi@host184.201-252-194.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [02:57] anyone? [02:57] silvergold: yo ! and what are the results ? :p [02:58] want the links? [02:58] 42 [02:58] 43 [02:58] silvergold: well, your overall impression ? (don't have much time right now) [02:59] C_Tux: I haven't looked at the #'s in depth, but just going by feel alone, arora is a ton faster. [03:00] ;-) [03:00] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [03:01] C_Tux: midori just seems somewhat sluggish, it could be in settings, I don't know, it's like midori waits until the full page is loaded in the background, and then bam, it shows it. [03:01] midori: Total: 1153.8ms +/- 0.9% [03:02] Action: nix_chix0r chases ##slackware [03:02] Action: silvergold chases nix_chix0r [03:02] grazymax (n=grazymax@host168-157-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:03] eeee [03:03] there, that's for chasing me earlier. :) [03:04] nix_chix0r: you know hebrew at all? know what firebird would be in hebrew, only the english spelling of it? [03:04] silvergold: possible, do you have a /usr/bin/GtkLauncher ? [03:04] yo nix_chix0r, how's it going ? [03:04] i have no idea i'm not jew [03:04] meh [03:04] haha [03:04] silvergold: what's your cpu btw ? [03:04] C_Tux: No, I don't. [03:05] C_Tux: what would firebird be in french? [03:05] i think i need some lithium [03:05] This is firebird in hebrew æÙäÕè ÔÐé [03:05] silvergold: it's built by webkit but I remembered the slackbuild didn't copy it (it's a demo browser, about 200lines of code long so it's quite good to test javascript [03:05] viewable only if you have utf enabled. :) [03:06] silvergold: oiseau de feu [03:06] C_Tux: Ah, ok. [03:06] whoa, sthat's cool. [03:06] that's even [03:06] which makes it sound like some (american) indian name [03:06] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.65.219) joined ##slackware. [03:06] nix_chix0r: what languages do you know? Any that would translate firebird into something cool looking? [03:06] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:06] silvergold: and what is your cpu ? ;) [03:07] silvergold, why lol [03:07] Cybie (n=Administ@adsl-074-185-052-059.sip.shv.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] Cybie (n=Administ@adsl-074-185-052-059.sip.shv.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:08] nix_chix0r: curious, firebird is taken, I don't really want to go back to firebird619. [03:08] C_Tux: P4 3.2GHz HT. [03:08] Action: slackmagic burps [03:09] btw, fire bird is apoynaibon in filipino [03:09] y0 slackmagic [03:09] silvergold: I get 703ms on sunspider with my poor laptop cpu at 1.66GHz :) [03:09] silvergold: what's going on? [03:09] silvergold: btw, your cpu does frequency scaling, right ? [03:10] nix_chix0r: I got why he's looking for cool translations of firebird : ego! remember his old nick ? ;) [03:10] C_Tux: that reminds me, I don't have that governor think to set to performance. [03:10] silvergold: yop ;) [03:10] :( [03:11] since these are micro-benchmarks, for faster engines, the frequency will be low and can eventually give them worse scores than slower engines got >< [03:12] hahaha, arora got the same total as midori [03:12] ff 3.5: Total: 2490.8ms +/- 9.3% [03:12] silvergold: he, you know, there are tons of people out there who benchmark javascript (and other things) and just do it wrong because of that, and they publish the results, advertise them and so on [03:12] silvergold: he ;) [03:12] :) [03:12] and ff = slow [03:13] with 3.0, it was probably like 4500ms [03:14] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:14] I love Sepultura's 'Blood, Fire, Was, Hate', plus the lyrics are easy to get :D [03:14] morning buttnuggets [03:14] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.65.219) left irc: "Leaving" [03:14] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-73.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:15] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-46.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] yo tewmten [03:16] C_Tux: =) [03:16] lithium please [03:17] y0 tewmten [03:17] nix_chix0r: why? :) [03:18] C_Tux: don't even ask about opera: Total: 7335.0ms +/- 2.0% :( [03:19] Action: chopp points at opera and laughs. :P [03:19] hi silvergold [03:19] :( this is sad. [03:19] chopp: it's not funny. [03:19] it is [03:19] lolz [03:19] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [03:19] it's pathetic [03:20] opera = butt nuggets [03:20] opera = crap [03:20] because i feel like checking myself into the 5th floor at the hospital most days [03:20] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@82.50.251.4) joined ##slackware. [03:20] whats on the 5th floor? [03:20] tewmten: the crazies. [03:20] psych ward checker eating floor [03:20] silvergold: but opera's time show it's not only about raw js speed : ff scores much better than opera but does it feel slower ? [03:21] C_Tux: now, feels much faster [03:21] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [03:21] no even [03:21] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [03:21] silvergold: and what about ram ? does it still leak >15MB when you open and then close a tab showing google.com ? ;p [03:21] hi so.. is tar archiving safe? im not compressing here.. if a tar archive goes bad, is it going to crap on me and tell me i lost everything? [03:22] missyjane: no [03:22] but you can gzip it and it will be checked and you'll be able to recover parts of it [03:22] C_Tux: I'm not sure about opera leaking ram, I've never noticed that. [03:22] whyw ould i want to gzip it? i dont want to compress it [03:22] (plus the smaller the file, the less likely the corruption) [03:23] (and if it gets to small, you won't even notice it when it happens :D ) [03:23] browser wars suck [03:23] silvergold: I was referring to firefox ;) [03:23] i have over 5 milllion files or so, so many folders and tar archive there :| im getting worried [03:23] C_Tux: fwiw, arora and midori feel much faster than opera. [03:23] C_Tux: haha, sorry. :P [03:23] alright ty [03:23] i was getting worried [03:23] i might ask again later with a rephrased question, ty again [03:23] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [03:23] ok, monthly-shower time [03:24] lesbian left continue with conversation [03:24] haha [03:24] haha [03:24] lesbian ? where [03:24] ? [03:24] know whats worse than a lesbian? one on her damn period [03:24] Action: silvergold high fives nix_chix0r :) [03:25] last night i had a chick over who was into servers and unix, and i helped her install slackware on her vista laptop [03:25] Action: C_Tux better, train to catch [03:25] and we were both in jammies on my bed so that i could teach her stuff as the packages flew by installing [03:25] TwinReverb: nah, that was a dream, too good to be true -_- [03:25] but looking back, that was damn scary [03:25] no, it was not a dream [03:25] Action: TwinReverb is a married man [03:26] that could've gotten bad quick [03:26] tsktsk [03:26] hubby is in the dog house right now actually [03:26] then again, when i get home i'll have a mac woman in my bed all the time 8-) [03:26] Action: TwinReverb 's wife is a mac geek [03:26] hm [03:26] sex with a mac geek any time > no sex with a linux geek in bed [03:26] he's been crabby for the past two weeks now and i finally called him on it and he blew up at me [03:27] so is there anyone who can help me out? /lastlog briareus for my question so I don't have to keep posting it. [03:27] 9999999999(x) > 50y [03:27] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:27] briareus, um, i don't see it on mine because i wasn't here. please ask again [03:27] briareus: why don't you just restart it? [03:28] [21:39] < briareus> hi all. Install question. during my install of slackware 12.2 onto an old laptop, it seems to have hung or stopped during the step where it loads up linux source. (during CD2) Is there a way to start 'setup' from that place of loading CD2? [03:28] don't think so [03:28] I had to power cycle the laptop, so now it boots back up to the old distro lilo [03:28] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:28] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:28] so I have to start completely over? what if it stops there again? [03:29] briareus, linux source is very big [03:29] TwinReverb: yes, but it was at that step for over 24 hours [03:29] and to be honest you should not need it on 12.2 because it comes with linux kernel 2.6.27.7 and the most current version is 2.6.30 [03:29] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [03:29] briareus, what brand? and do you hear the CPU fan going? [03:30] oh yeah, it was running the whole time [03:30] ThinkPad [03:30] so I go for advanced install and disable the linux source? [03:30] have you checked the SMART monitor log on that machine? [03:30] well yeah you can go menu and unselect anything you don't need [03:30] TwinReverb: no, but I can't now anyway, since I have no way to boot it up. lilo points at the old distro that no longer exists [03:31] I can boot to install, that's about it [03:31] can you boot any bootable distro on it or the slackware installer? [03:32] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:32] Action: TwinReverb doesn't know if smartctl is on the installer [03:33] you want to get your hands on smartctl and check the hard drive's logs [03:33] and you may also want to check the memory as well (that is, if the fans work) [03:33] well yeah I can start over with teh installer. I was just hoping I wouldn't have to go through everything again [03:33] it took a long time on this old beast to get as far as I did (most of a day) [03:33] you may not have to, you can just opt for "do not format" and then unselect everything that's installed so far [03:34] i think the installer goes from top to bottom on the previous menu so if you got to kernel source, everything above that can be deselected (i think) [03:34] I have had an install stall like that before, and hitting enter solved the problem. [03:34] I'm not sure how to know what's installed or not. AH! Ok that would help! [03:34] oops...ctrl 7 fail [03:34] chopp: yeah believe me I tried. I did NOT want to stop it. But once it was there a whole day, I had to go back to my own house and take the laptop with me, had to unpower it [03:35] allright [03:35] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [03:35] enter just moved the display up, which is why I thought it was thinking on it the whole time and left it alone til I had to shut it [03:36] briareus: which laptop is it ? [03:37] ThinkPad 390 dinosaur [03:38] what's the cpu ? [03:40] and you may try 'installpkg somesmallpackage.tg', it will install in ram and use some more but if the package installs pretty quickly, it will show your hard drive is slow, and if it doesn't, it will show your cpu is slow [03:40] p2 400 [03:40] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:41] briareus: and slackware 11 may git your cpu better [03:42] s/git your cpu/fit your computer/ [03:44] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [03:45] so you think if I uncheck the ones above the linux source I'm ok? It won't install the stuff below it *over* the previous install? [03:45] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-46.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:46] briareus: I personnaly wouldn't but that's just me, and I would try to make the installer go faster, there must be a problem [03:46] slow chip ? [03:46] Action: C_Tux has to go [03:47] well its a p2 400 [03:47] actually it might be a p2 233 [03:48] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:49] if it's 233, slack 10 maybe [03:49] and don't boot the smp kernel ! [03:50] no, huge.s [03:51] ok, now /me really has to go [03:51] thanks [03:51] be back in 3 or 4 hours ;p [03:52] Nick change: silvergold -> fire|bird [03:52] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:53] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:54] fire|bird, that's a good nick [03:54] slava_dp: yeah, I just discovered it was not registered. [03:55] fire|bird: nice nick [03:55] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:55] thanks [03:55] I was kidding [03:55] :( [03:55] just kidding its a good nick [03:55] :P [03:56] slava_dp: at first, I registered it, then went to freenode for a cloak, and then they suggested, why not just group it to firebird619. :) so I did. [03:56] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:07] groo (n=groo@189.117.29.179) joined ##slackware. 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[04:37] damn laptop has tripped again on another install step. gnome-icon-theme. been there for an hour. [04:39] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [04:43] briareus: do you have another laptop you could pop that drive into for the install, or a converter for a regular ata connection? [04:44] just this one, but I don't want this one to be down for the sake of the old dog. I might just trash the old thing and use it for robot parts. if I can't install slack on it, its no good to me [04:45] yeah I agree with that. :P [04:45] I have a few laptop drives, but they are all in storage. I think it ssomething with the laptop itself. I also tried to mitigate any weirdness by running the install with params: noapic nolapic acpi=off [04:45] has it got an pcmcia slot? [04:46] nothing seems to help. it just stops at some steps [04:46] yes [04:46] net install from this laptop? [04:46] I have a pcmcia X-connector rj45 card for it [04:47] buy one of those adapters for the drive for like 3 bucks, install slack, and use it as an AP :) [04:47] :) [04:49] someone else might be able to get you through the problems you're having though. [04:51] well, it did this sort of thing with another distro and other hard drives. I just figured it was an artifact of the old system or a ram oddity or something, but it passes all the tests I can throw at it. [04:52] it runs great once installed, but getting anything on it sucks [04:52] the only thing that ever installed on it well was slackware, so now if its going to fail at even that, well, it might as well be in pieces. Of course, maybe I should save it as the piece of history. [05:03] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-173-25.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:03] briareus: http://www.antonline.com/p_IDE4044-NX_112052.htm [05:05] Action: slava_dp has the first ever toshiba laptop at home. has a 8088 and a b/w wide screen, runs dos 3.x. even got a boot floppy for it with a game. [05:06] battery is dead. (obviously) [05:06] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-117-66.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:07] Hermann (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [05:08] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/freenode/x-6c778d64ae354a3f) joined ##slackware. [05:09] zhoun (n=guo@123.117.31.238) left irc: "‚»" [05:09] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [05:10] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [05:10] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [05:11] komesti (n=komesti@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] What is the name of the program which displays funny phrases at log on? [05:12] fortune [05:12] How do I stop it? [05:12] fortune [05:12] Thank you! [05:12] i thinks it comes with BSD games [05:12] think [05:14] I don't know if BSD but Games for sure. [05:14] I mean comes with games. [05:14] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "Reconnecting" [05:14] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [05:15] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-173-25.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [05:15] And how do I remove it? [05:15] pkgtool as root [05:16] No fortune there. [05:16] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-173-25.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:17] pri4pus: grep the /var/log/packages [05:18] No fortune in /var/log/packages [05:18] fortune is bsd-games [05:19] you can disable it [05:19] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:19] have a look in /etc/profile.d [05:19] snewp (i=slacker@unaffiliated/snewp) got netsplit. [05:19] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) got netsplit. [05:20] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [05:21] pri4pus: to disable, chmod -x /etc/profile.d/bsd-games-login-fortune.sh [05:21] Finally! Thank you! [05:21] you're welcome [05:21] snewp (i=slacker@cpe-69-203-220-240.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:22] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) returned to ##slackware. [05:22] now give alisonken1noc back his spoon :P [05:22] What is profile.d for? Where can I find more about it? [05:22] What is profile.d for? Where can I find more info about it? [05:23] read /etc/profile and the scripts in /etc/profile.d/ [05:24] OK. Thank you! :-) [05:24] pri4pus, the main bash login script. [05:24] pri4pus: less /etc/profile and look towards the bottom to see how it calls the shells in /etc/profile.d [05:26] pihentagyu (n=doeppjak@89.123.201.159) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:27] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [05:27] dang, I can't believe ff 3.5 won't make it in next slack release [05:28] rapid_ (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:28] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [05:28] might have a million bugs. (firebug anyone? :) who knows. [05:28] trust moz. QA! [05:28] :p [05:32] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [05:33] And how do I disable mail notification? biff [05:33] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.65.219) joined ##slackware. [05:34] What is the best way? [05:36] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:38] Action: init[1] Thinking about major project (University) any suggestions :) [05:38] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:39] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [05:40] pri4pus, comment out the mail section in /etc/profile. [05:42] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:42] slava_dp: This is the only way? [05:44] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-173-25.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [05:45] pri4pus, eh? does that not suit your purpose? [05:46] slava_dp: If I do that at login I will still get the No Mail message. [05:46] pri4pus, no you won't. [05:46] I have tried. [05:48] k, according to man biff, change the line in /etc/profile to "biff n" instead of "biff y". 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[07:12] chopp: works great here [07:12] check TERM settings [07:13] Kaapa: allright, yeah it allways worked great til just recently [07:14] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:14] $echo $TERM [07:14] screen.rxvt [07:15] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:18] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:18] anyone using slack+3ware? [07:18] chopp: happens all the time here if i execute it many times [07:18] dont know whats causing it. the same thing happens with many other apps using dialog, ncurses [07:18] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:18] i think its ncurses related [07:19] or maybe relevant to the setup [07:19] overall setup [07:19] Zordrak: ask your real question please [07:20] fred: real question: hows your experience with slack + 3ware [07:20] :) [07:20] fairly good thanks. [07:20] Action: fred goes away, glad your question's answered. [07:20] 3ware? [07:20] im about to spend 7k on a full on redundant HA NAS solution [07:20] sahko: did it just start happening recently for you as well? [07:21] im pretty sure im gonna use slack for it [07:21] no. it does for as long as i can remember [07:21] chopp: ^ [07:21] Pa^2: manufacturer of fairly nice raid cards [07:21] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.87) joined ##slackware. [07:21] but im just looking at the nooks and crannies [07:21] fred: which I seem to have some problems with [07:21] unless it's just because we have a lot of them [07:21] making sure that, for example, people havent run into problems running slack with recent 3ware hardware [07:22] Zordrak: not a slack specific issue - that's kernel space [07:22] 3ware does seem to state some kind of actual reas support for slackware.. but only 10.2 [07:22] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [07:22] hi guys;) [07:22] sahko: allright thanks for that [07:22] not had a problem on 12.x [07:23] slamd64.com's running happily on slamd64 12.0 with a 9650SE-4MPML [07:23] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.65.219) left irc: "Leaving" [07:23] alisonken1noc: in general yes.. but when hardware is designed for specific distros like SuSE and RHEL.. you can find things blowing up in your face [07:23] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.65.219) joined ##slackware. [07:23] It's not, it's just slightly more irritating to get 3dm2 working. [07:23] fred: thats fantastic to know... ill be running the same card but 12-lane [07:23] chopp: do you think its term related? FWIW i always use rxvt-unicode. cant tell if it happens eg. with xterm too. [07:24] Zordrak: I would be interested in how a hardware setup can be distro specific :) [07:24] I say it's running hapily, then it's just gone red on my "shit's broken" board :( [07:24] :S [07:24] alisonken1noc: ^^ [07:24] Now it's running fine. [07:24] what happened... [07:25] mod_fastcgi failed [07:25] lol [07:26] sahko: I'm not exactly sure, but I do know that I've never had it happen until just recently. [07:26] fred: how irritating(3dm2) ? [07:27] chopp: did you just start using rxvt? [07:27] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-143-216.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [07:27] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-133-232.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:27] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [07:27] sahko: it's actually aterm I'm using [07:28] Zordrak: not much really [07:28] hi all, i here again to ask about firefox [07:29] fred: coolio, ta.. really just needed reassurance and you have provided it :) If this new NAS implementation doesnt work right my neck is on the line a bit [07:29] i tried it with different user and no result, it doesnt start [07:29] oh, iirc slackbook also runs off 3ware [07:29] fred: cool.. dont suppose either of them runs drbd+heartbeat :) [07:30] nah :p [07:30] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [07:30] thats my big task.. i have 0 ekperience with drbd and heartbeat... but im gonna need both for proper HA for this NAS [07:32] If anyone's listening that runs decent hardware for a NAS runnincg linux.. id love someone to throw the proposed server spec for some off the cuff opinion [07:34] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.136.191) joined ##slackware. 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[08:50] hi [08:52] newbieslacker (n=luis@host56.190-137-79.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [08:52] and I was about to say "yo" =/ [08:55] Linkinus (n=Katze@78.191.203.18) joined ##slackware. [08:55] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.201.122.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:55] Hi, is it possible to install Gnome to x64 current which released today?\ [08:56] Nick change: Linkinus -> katze [08:56] eh? [08:57] its not released yet [08:57] oh, rc1 [08:58] grazymax (n=grazymax@host168-157-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:58] the one in slackware.com right now [08:58] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:58] Its only RC1 [08:58] its not the official release [08:59] and there is no RC1 install media either [08:59] yes there is [08:59] thrice`: for x86_64? [08:59] hmm where? [08:59] pantelis (n=pantelis@ppp-94-69-168-252.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:59] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [08:59] pantelis (n=pantelis@ppp-94-69-168-252.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [08:59] or slackware64-current/ if you'd like :) [09:00] pantelis (n=pantelis@ppp-94-69-168-252.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:00] thats -current not RC1 [09:00] you don't understand. right now, the -current snapshot IS rc1 [09:00] but currently current is rc1 ;) [09:01] thrice`: yes, but Pat doesnt make neither -current or RC* installation media :P [09:01] anyway this is pointless discussing it [09:01] the installer I linked to above is fully up-to-date [09:01] 2.6.29.5 kernel, .txz packages, etc. [09:02] he doesn't make the iso's, no, but if you make a .iso (or use those usb installers), it will definitely work, and leave you with RC1 [09:03] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:03] |m (n=imal@116.66.206.194) left irc: Client Quit [09:03] yeah, i agree. most people who read the Slackware 13.0 RC1 released announcement not using Slackware probably dont know that though [09:03] adeodatus (n=rp@92.84.1.172) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:04] I think most who want to install -current are able to figure it out ;) [09:05] sahko: I just discovered that mc works fine now that I'm using screen on a different box. $echo $TERM screen ..so it is definately rxvt related [09:06] hi i ' m a debian-sid user thinking to migrate to slackware current (amd64) [09:06] i want to perform a minimal installation (like debian) so i find a nice topic here [09:06] http://www.linuxquestions.org:80/questions/slackware-14/samacs-super-slimline-speedy-slackware-704866/ [09:07] Channel flood from pantelis -- kicking [09:07] the only problem remane is which packages i need in order to have a minimal kde4 installation [09:07] (something like debians kde4-minimal) [09:07] pantelis kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [09:07] pantelis (n=pantelis@ppp-94-69-168-252.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:07] he, anything with kde won't exactly be minimal! [09:07] nheco (n=nheco_nh@200-102-92-162.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:08] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176203447.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:08] raela (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:08] hi i ' m a debian-sid user thinking to migrate to slackware current (amd64) i want to perform a minimal installation (like debian) so i find a nice topic here http://www.linuxquestions.org:80/questions/slackware-14/samacs-super-slimline-speedy-slackware-704866/ the only problem remane is which packages i need in order to have a minimal kde4 installation (something like debians kde4-minimal) [09:09] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.201.122.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:09] pantelis: you probably can't. although i have no idea what kde4-minimal is, slackware's kde includes the kitchen sink [09:10] adeodatus (n=rp@92.84.5.169) joined ##slackware. [09:10] its maximal [09:11] well it s pure kde without any application (like ktorrent etc) only the menu plasma kdm and panels [09:12] theres no split packages in Slackware [09:13] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:14] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] mm lets make the question in different way so what packages recuarred in order to have at least as minimal kde as it can be in slack [09:16] in Slackware you are supposed to do a full installation, or know what you are doing. [09:16] i cant help you with kde, maybe someone else can and is willing to help [09:17] @sahko thanks for your time:) [09:18] anyone else running vbox 3.0? [09:18] yep [09:19] i get over 100% cpu usage upon launching it [09:19] katze (n=Katze@78.191.203.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:19] not here [09:19] previous version no problems [09:19] raelalkoira (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:19] 104 20.3 2:16.22 VirtualBox [09:20] stanza_ (n=stanza@host137-46-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:21] hi guys! need some help with slackware current.. I have /sys/bus/pnp/devices empty, but there should be my audio device.. [09:22] no one out there? [09:22] Hermann (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:23] as soon as i load the guest os cpu spikes to over 100 [09:23] running slackware 12.2 with slackware 12.2 vbox [09:23] doesn't make sense why it is spiking up [09:26] skibur (n=skibur@69.151.103.108) joined ##slackware. [09:26] baccardi (n=nera@88.119.189.51) joined ##slackware. [09:27] stanza_: patience [09:27] pantelis: hello. I have a lot of experience with Debian systems. we don't really have a netinstall iso like Debian does. for newcomers to Slackware we recomend a full install. [09:28] baccardi (n=nera@88.119.189.51) left ##slackware. [09:28] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.17.188) joined ##slackware. [09:29] straterra: my lspci points out Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 and i am on a Thinkpad 600E, i have already tried out all solutions form thinkwiki.org and linuxquestions.org and so on.. [09:30] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] good morning [09:31] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [09:34] stanza_: does "alsamixer" report that it finds a card ? [09:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.188) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:35] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176203447.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [09:36] pi__ (i=pi@monkeynetwork.org) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:36] thrice`: unfortunately no.. alsaconf recognise my sound card and chip correctly but sound does not work. alsaconf treies to execute a script that looks into /sys/bus/pnp/devices but actually that location is empty [09:37] thrice`: the alsaconf scripts start with this line: for dev in /sys/bus/pnp/devices/* [09:38] do you have more than 1 sound card? [09:38] adeodatus (n=rp@92.84.5.169) left irc: Client Quit [09:38] it looks like that card has been supported for awhile now (at least since 2.4.x) [09:39] thrice`: only one sound card [09:39] pantelis (n=pantelis@ppp-94-69-168-252.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [09:39] thrice`: i had since a month ago slackware 11 kenerl 2.4 (i am a little bit "old") and everything worked fine [09:40] i suppose there is something wrong on the IRQ assignements.. btw my bios does not have acpi support of course [09:40] what does "lsmod | grep snd" show ? [09:41] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.136.191) left irc: "leaving" [09:41] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.5.169) joined ##slackware. [09:41] http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=132&cat=503 is quite dated :\ [09:42] the most important thing is that it shows snd_cs46xx, but alsaconf stated that that driver was no good for me: i shall use snd-cs4236 with proper parameters that i can find in /sys/bus/pnp/devices [09:42] but perhaps you need to load the module with different options in, say, /etc/modprobe.d/snd-cs{blahblah} [09:43] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [09:43] thrice`: i know that but every blog or forum or ml or chat tells me that i must read /sys/bus/pnp [09:43] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.5.169) left irc: Client Quit [09:43] why? [09:43] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.5.169) joined ##slackware. [09:43] that probably gets populated once the module is loaded properly [09:44] take a look here http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Script_for_configuring_the_CS4239_sound_chip_in_PnP_mode if you have 5 minutes [09:45] skibur (n=skibur@69.151.103.108) left irc: "Leaving" [09:45] did you do the /etc/modprobe.d/cs4236pnp bit first? [09:45] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-103-108.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] stanza__ (n=stanza@host137-46-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:47] stanza_ (n=stanza@host137-46-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:47] thrice`: sorry i was playing around with drivers and something crashed :) [09:49] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [09:53] slacKManic (i=skacKMan@201-92-72-118.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[10:29] i got this error when I ran '# fusion-icon' : * No GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap with direct rendering context [10:29] ... nor with indirect rendering, this isn't going to work! [10:29] * Using the GTK Interface [10:30] the GTK then pops a bunch of errors because it obviously wasent meant to run fusion-icon [10:30] then* [10:30] stanza__ (n=stanza@host137-46-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [10:31] so I think if I get GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap with direct rendering context figured out I will have compiz working on slack 12.2 [10:31] Action: slava_dp don't haz any program named fusion-icon on his full 12.2. [10:31] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [10:31] ack, netsplit from hells [10:31] blacksheep, do you use your native video driver? or the default vesa? [10:31] r3n4n (n=renan@unaffiliated/r3n4n) joined ##slackware. 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[10:37] i have no idea what you mean [10:37] i mean: run glxgears. [10:38] hollywoodb (n=hollywoo@76.17.165.23) joined ##slackware. [10:38] slava_dp<< Error: couldn't open display (null) [10:38] from an X terminal [10:38] how do you get an X terminal? [10:38] from an X *user* terminal [10:38] i. e. non-root [10:39] oh shit [10:39] it worked [10:39] ! non user solved it [10:39] i dont have my Min. Max. and Close tabs on my windows anymore [10:39] but thats fixable [10:40] blacksheep, glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" [10:40] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:40] slava_dp<< direct rendering: Yes [10:42] ahem. i don't know. maybe someone more competent will assist you. [10:43] jlindsay (n=none@c-71-228-169-64.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:43] ok so is there a daemon for compiz that i need to start up ? [10:43] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [10:43] in my /etc/rc.d/ dir? [10:43] i guess i could just look hu.. [10:45] How do I make my 'modem' ln -s assignment to ttyS0 permanent? [10:45] v12.2 [10:46] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Action: The-Croupier waves [10:47] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.17.188) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:49] bayrouni (n=bayrouni@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.3" [10:52] br00tal (n=br00tal@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] this is incredible [10:54] compiz owns [10:54] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.94.225) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:57] sh0ne (n=Unknown@nat.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Zozma (n=Winter@75-121-173-161.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:58] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "reboot" [11:00] blacksheep: compiz owns nothing [11:01] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [11:01] hello, i suppose qt will not be upgraded to 4.5.2 for slack 13... right? [11:01] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [11:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Client Quit [11:02] your guess is as good as ours [11:02] P4C0, mail Pat with a good reason to do it. [11:03] there's a problem with cookies parser on 4.5.1, http://code.google.com/p/arora/issues/detail?id=438 which makes arora browser a bit useless :p [11:03] slava_dp: but that's probably not a good reason :( [11:03] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:04] Darko (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-e2661f789f8c214e) left irc: "Leaving" [11:05] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [11:05] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:06] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:07] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [11:08] is'nt there kpalmdoc included in slack current? [11:08] P4C0: I think that's a good reason :) [11:08] arora browser? hmm ... a new one on me. I will look into it. always looking for a better browser. [11:09] is kpalmdoc included in skack current?* [11:09] kr_eten: go check. [11:09] dtanner: so far it seems to render better/faster than konqueror [11:09] arora is pretty awesome [11:09] well, i don't use konq but i will check out arora [11:10] it seems not. maybe it is not part of kde4 :( [11:11] The-Crou1ier (n=ksandros@adsl63-45.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:11] Nick change: The-Crou1ier -> IonShark [11:12] they need to update the imagery for google-earth... bad. [11:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.46) joined ##slackware. [11:12] blacksheep: your first time using compiz? hehe.. i went compiz-fusion crazy when i first used it. =) [11:13] dtanner<< yea lol [11:13] do you know for any application that reads/converts .pdb files [11:13] im diggin the circular desktop deal [11:13] ? [11:13] it was fun, then it gets to be old hat. but i still keep it enabled. I like it. [11:14] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.32.32.15) joined ##slackware. [11:14] kr_eten: alot of these ss's are my compiz-fusion desktop eye candy -> http://picasaweb.google.com/slacktop/SlackwareScreenshots# [11:14] err blacksheep ^^ [11:15] nice [11:15] i'll check um out [11:15] blacksheep: are you using fusion-icon? [11:15] :)) [11:16] dtanner<< yea [11:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:16] very pro [11:17] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Off to see the wizard..." [11:17] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:21] so when useing SBo [11:21] when you download the source and untar it [11:21] couldent you just as easly ./configure make make install ? [11:21] from the source tarball? [11:21] well for 1) you don't untar the source. the slackbuild takes care of that. [11:22] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [11:22] right, im sayin if you dont use SBo [11:22] 2) make install would just install it in /usr/local/bin without making a package which makes upgrading a bit of a bother. [11:22] that defeats the purpose of building a slackpack using the SlackBuild script [11:22] couldent you "install it from source" [11:22] ? [11:22] blacksheep: yes. [11:22] mmk i think i get it. [11:23] SBo just makes it nice because of the upgrading [11:23] with the *.tgz packages [11:23] not only that. [11:23] hi all. I need a sort-of-offtopic suggestion. I have a remote server in a (very) different time zone. Should I keep the timezone of the place where it is located? or change it to mine? [11:23] make packages whenever you can. otherwise you just haves files slung all over the place. and what BP{k} said. [11:23] blacksheep: if you install it from source without making a package then it will be a pain to remove/upgrade and such, better to make a package [11:24] will you remember in 6 months times, exactly how you build the package by hand? What switches you used, how you edited the make file, where you put those files that needed to be in just that $weirdlocaion. [11:24] slackbuild scripts also do things like gzipping man pages, some linking issues, stripping libraries, etc [11:24] for shure [11:24] jerojasro: I will let the timezone of the place it's located... [11:24] P4C0: any particular reason to do so? [11:25] sbopkg owns, I was just curious if that is how you would do it by hand. so to say [11:25] yeah me too. leave it the timezone where it is located. [11:25] jerojasro: hmm not really but for me it makes sense, specially if local people work on that server [11:25] personal preference on the timezone [11:26] yeah P4C0 has a good point. [11:26] mmm, no, it is a VPS, and most of its users are in my timezone [11:26] does anyone know if its possible to define "rudeness" in XFCE? i mean if an application from the backround wants focus, not to get it. rudeness is what ratpoison calls it [11:26] dunno just yet :P [11:27] Action: BP{k} sets all his server nowadays to UTC. [11:27] If $users want to set a timezone. They can go and read bash(1) on how to set it. [11:27] BP{k}: you mean without timezone? [11:28] P4C0: *le sigh* ... no. I set my timezone to UTC. [11:28] sahko: are you talking about "focus on mouse-over" ? so if you accidently mouse over ( do not click) a window comes forth ? then yes there is a way to set that in xfce [11:28] dtanner: no. i mean i click a URL in terminal. firefox stay in backround. not come in foreground [11:29] ok [11:29] P4C0: why does that sound you haven't understand a word I said. :P [11:29] tooly (n=tooly@e178132047.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:29] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [11:30] BP{k}: I don't know, just that I store my time in UTC [11:30] sahko: I am sure there is a way to define that either in the terminal, or desktop or firefox *shrug*. If i click a URL i want it come forth so i never bothered looking into it. [11:31] BP{k}: heh [11:31] BP{k}: (in the hardware) then use my local timezone [11:32] Action: P4C0 goes out for a smoke [11:34] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [11:34] gtg to work [11:34] peace all [11:35] peace [11:35] baby free till tuesday wahoooo [11:37] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:38] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:40] nix_chix0r: it is soooo nice to have time off isn't it? makes ya feel "free"! [11:40] i dont wana go back dtanner :o [11:41] I am done rasing kids. They aged me pre-maturely though through the years. [11:42] I have raised three familes. my first marriage with my two bniological kids. then 7 years with a woman helping her raise three girls. and the last two years helping my current gf with hers. I am DONE. [11:42] biological* [11:43] hubby is in dog house [11:43] nix_chix0r: I understand. my youngest is six. i've got two kids and that's plenty. enjoy your break! [11:43] I am sure that collectively that took about 10 years off my life. [11:43] dtanner: masochist much, are you? ;-) [11:43] heh [11:43] grumpy butt for the past two weeks [11:43] and we are baby free and he doesn't want to do shit [11:43] i want to go camping [11:43] camping sounds good to me [11:44] so i may just go by myself [11:44] i will meet you there but my gf might not appreciate it. [11:44] well 3.5 hrs away theres a really awesome place where you can camp and go tubing. and down the river it takes 4hrs and the guy picks you back up [11:44] i thought it would be fun to grill hobo dinners, go tubing and camp out for the night [11:45] I used to do that when I lived in the Smoky Mountains. [11:45] work time bai bai [11:45] later [11:48] illuz1oN (n=illuz@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [11:49] illuz1oN (n=illuz@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) left ##slackware. [11:49] illuz1oN (n=illuz@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [11:50] illuz1oN (n=illuz@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) left ##slackware. [11:50] illuz1oN (n=illuz@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [11:51] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:55] illuz1oN: you ok man? [11:55] yeah sorted. [11:55] coo [11:55] had some dodgy "can't join" shit till i registered, sorry about the mass /hop :/ [11:55] np just messin witcha [11:55] o. ^.^ [11:55] joined the slax community yesterday :D [11:56] sweet [11:56] I've had a partition with slax for ages, I could never get wireless working. [11:56] slax or slackware? [11:56] anyone having issues with slackware64? [11:56] slackware. i use slax for short. [11:56] slax is a different project though [11:56] it will cause confusion [11:56] i'll use slack then :P [11:56] i just installed it and it worked but when i synced with -current it tried to install bash and it destroyed the whole system [11:57] I never wanted to change, as I'm a win32 programmer and I was a heavy gamer at the time. [11:57] amazon10x: how did you 'sync' with -current? [11:57] managed to get ndiswrapper working, can't get wpa_supplicant working though, so i'm using 128bit (i doubt any fucker round here can crack wep...) [11:58] last problem is my sound drivers, creative XF-i drivers didn't work for me. [11:58] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-170-14.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:58] hollywoodb: slackpkg [11:58] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-128-99.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] there were 5 or 6 new packages it found [11:59] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.30.250) joined ##slackware. [12:00] amazon10x: you could check /var/log/removed_packages/ , but I don't think that bash should have been updated [12:00] oh wait. it looks like bash 4 is in /testing [12:00] right [12:01] does slackpkg update testing stuff by default? [12:01] If you have the regular bash installed, it wouldn't update with the bash from testing, no [12:02] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:02] amazon10x: you can see what was upgraded in /var/log/removed_packages/ [12:02] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:02] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [12:02] oh wait. i had a 32-bit mirror set for slackpkg [12:02] i bet that screwed it up [12:03] illuz1oN: usually the sound drivers will load auto after alsa scans for your card. if not check the alsa site for your specific card/chip and what driver it needs. [12:03] yeah, I read something about also. OSS drivers failed too. [12:03] I'll check with alsa :) [12:03] illuz1oN: did the drivers give an error when loading ? if not did you unmute in alsamixer? [12:04] i checked alsamixer, that seemed file. [12:04] and I can't remember the error, it was yesterday. I'm on windows atm - but I'll check back later :) [12:05] okie folks... i am outta here. welcome to slackware illuz1oN. [12:05] cheers. laters [12:06] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.30.250) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:07] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left ##slackware. [12:07] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.30.250) joined ##slackware. [12:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:11] so, can anyon ehelp me with that stupid problem about the new firefox [12:12] what stupid problem? i'm using 3.5 already >.> [12:12] artv61_ (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [12:14] but i cannot [12:15] i tried with news, clean user, tried as root, but every time just nothing [12:15] it doesn't launch? [12:16] yes and no output [12:16] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.89.19) left irc: "Leaving" [12:16] D-r_Flower [12:16] i saw a post in LQ with the same problem, but there is not answer appropriate for me [12:16] strace it [12:16] i simply overwrite the files lol [12:16] strace gives nothing [12:16] (stock 12.2) [12:16] and it works fine (3.5) [12:16] which files [12:17] i'm on 12.1, so what's your point? but do you realize that's a really bad idea (tm) [12:17] Necos [12:18] the X binary is missing from my new slackware64 install. any idea why this might be? [12:19] I logged in and deleted it [12:19] amazon10x: "X" is a symlink. check your install [12:19] yo jeev [12:19] y0h [12:19] Try reinstalling it [12:20] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.32.32.15) left irc: "Leaving" [12:22] may be i miss some dependencies [12:22] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:23] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-128-99.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:23] Techtronic (n=root@77.90.71.162) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Necos: do u have a slackware package? [12:24] slackware 13 have kde 4.2 ? [12:24] tes [12:24] yes [12:24] 4.2.4 [12:24] sup thrice`. [12:24] yes [12:24] ech .. beter 3.5.10 .. [12:24] then don't update :) [12:24] hi jeev [12:24] Necos: can u send me ur package,? did u applay some patches? [12:24] heh, jeev, i was at the dodger game on sunday [12:25] Necos, dodgers? baseball? ew. [12:25] with my friend that lives in glendale [12:25] Necos, glendale owns you [12:25] nope, koreatown > glendale [12:25] pfft [12:26] D-r_Flower: it's a pretty big package lol [12:26] 11MB [12:26] aa [12:27] so i may start a ftp server, but may be later. now i am going out. there is a show in the city :) [12:27] D-r_Flower: i'll put it on my webserver at home [12:28] o, thanks [12:28] ok [12:29] i tried to build with slackbuild for 3.0.11, but it was impossible [12:29] you need to examine the scripts and the fix them where you need to fix them. [12:30] ah, i did it with previous versions, but i cannot now i dont understatn where is the problem [12:31] Necos: can u make a slackbuild tarball, like SBo? i shoult package localizet package [12:32] i only patched it with the plugin patch [12:32] and it's en-US [12:34] uploaded to my webserver [12:34] ok, i ll try with that patch only. i ll come back later [12:34] a, give the link [12:35] Wiren (i=Wiren@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Necos: if you only used the plugin patch don't you have a screwed up path for the moz_libdir now? [12:35] ts, i removed the old firefox and cannot open the link [12:35] looking at the other patches suggest so [12:35] suggests* [12:35] macavity (i=55529287@gateway/web/freenode/x-11cda0da04d4de6e) joined ##slackware. [12:36] evening guys :-) [12:36] :) [12:38] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [12:38] IrquiM (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:38] nope [12:38] IrquiM (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [12:38] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:38] how is it nope? [12:39] but i'll doublecheck [12:39] nm [12:39] I see how it owrks now [12:39] so far as i know... [12:40] it's in the actual "firefox" script [12:40] yeah [12:41] Necos: how did you determine that we don't need the mime or simple diffs anymore? [12:41] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:41] because the patches fail? [12:42] this was just a quick test of the build script [12:43] well looking at the simple diff and "firefox" script in 3.5 shows that the simple diff is still needed to fix that path [12:43] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [12:43] it's not that firefox won't work but it isn't using the same lib paths if the simple diff isn't applied [12:43] but the patch needs to be modified [12:44] right [12:44] like i said, i was just testing it [12:44] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:44] to see if i could actually use it [12:47] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:47] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:48] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] here http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/bxNqU960.html [12:48] i made a new patch [12:48] I'll fix the rest too few mins [12:48] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-35-151-85.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Guest10811 (n=opera@122.164.30.149) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Guest10811 (n=opera@122.164.30.149) left ##slackware. [12:50] i'll fix it... i was just too lazy to do it ^_^ [12:51] that's actually the only one that really needed fixing but the firefox.moz_plugin_path.diff.gz can use an update since the old one still references is 3.0.X path, even though that is only in it's fuzzing area [12:51] so it's not an issue [12:51] just an OCD issue [12:51] Thank god we have an extended weekend this week. Well at least for us in the US. [12:51] yeah, i'll take care of it now [12:51] jlindsay (n=none@c-71-228-169-64.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] okay, for some reason the installer didn't install xorg-server even though i told it to do a full install [12:52] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) joined ##slackware. [12:53] amazon10x: CD or DVD install? [12:53] usb install [12:53] i wget'd the whole repo yesterday and installed from a pre-mounted dir [12:53] is there a way to see a list of packages that aren't installed? [12:53] not that i know of [12:54] oh wait [12:54] you can compare MANIFEST.bz2 to the contents of /var/log/packages [12:54] i just did `slackpkg search .` and it's giving me a long list [12:54] grep -v -l is probably what you are looking for here [12:55] hmmm, you know what antiwire [12:55] alright, i didn't see anything particularly interesting uninstalled [12:55] startx is doing it's thing now [12:55] i probably should modify moz_libdir (even tho it's not required) [12:55] how do I enable cpufreq? [12:56] Necos: yep [12:56] I'm almost done with the plugin patch [12:57] i'm already doign it ^_~ [12:57] illuz1oN (n=illuz@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [12:58] gtl: you modprobe it [12:58] working on the mimetypes now [12:58] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/dizt5625.html [12:58] i think minetypes is ok [12:58] macavity, i did, it doesn't seem to work, though [12:58] gtl: then you google the /proc interfaces (i cant remember them), and then you echo some value to /proc/whatever to get the desired action [12:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434836.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:59] something like this: 'echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor'? [12:59] antiwire: with the simple patch we modify the plugins dir already, so why did you reset it? =p [12:59] no we didn't modify it [13:00] that patches apply in order [13:00] when i do alt+f2 on this slack machine it gives me a really ugly looking run dialog that doesn't work right [13:00] thatis just a fuz area [13:00] how do i get the nifty kde dialog [13:00] gtl: that looks about right [13:00] it's not resetting anything [13:00] r3n4n (n=renan@unaffiliated/r3n4n) left irc: "leaving" [13:00] gtl: if you are on a laptop, try running it on batteries [13:00] i said it wrong [13:00] we modify moz_libdir [13:00] right [13:00] but you reset it in the plugin patch [13:00] gtl: i belive ondemand runs at full speed when wired, but i could be wrong [13:00] and that second patch doesn't change it.... [13:00] NO [13:00] that's now how patches work [13:00] not* [13:00] line 5 [13:01] dude. [13:01] look again. [13:01] ther eis no - or + [13:01] it's not changing anything...in fact, review the original patches [13:01] oh durp... my bad... fuzz factor [13:01] lol [13:01] working on 2 things at once is a bad idea [13:01] Techtronic (n=root@77.90.71.162) left irc: "Leaving" [13:02] macavity, you're mistaken... ondemand only calls for processors full power when needed, either AC or batteries powered [13:03] you may need to load other modules as well... depending on your CPU/chipset configuration [13:03] is it an Intel chip? [13:03] hey antiwire, shouldn't we merge the simple and plugin patches? [13:03] yup, core 2 duo t5600 [13:04] Necos: Pat didn't so I won't [13:04] gtl: try looking it up in menuconfig then [13:04] kk [13:04] gtl: i only remember things about temperature :P [13:04] hehe [13:04] thanks, thou [13:05] fair enough [13:05] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:05] macavity: the modules to get thermal zone info on core[2] is called coretemp, in case you need it too [13:05] s/macavity/gtl/ [13:05] coretemp is loaded as module [13:05] Action: macavity is talking to himself a lot lately [13:06] gtl: i am on a winhore box at a cafe, so i cant look it up for you [13:06] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-71-23.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:06] icarus_ (n=tits@cpe-72-177-136-13.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:07] hehe, i'll try pulling a rabbit out [13:07] macavity: one of the sign of emerging madness ;) [13:08] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:08] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:08] hmmm [13:10] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [13:10] hrr. Is there a tiny svg viewer? don't want to use the gimp as a viewer, and firefox isn't really "tiny"... [13:10] (neither is the gimp) [13:14] hey antiwire... did you do the mime plugin patch yet? [13:14] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/HWs6JR98.html [13:14] done [13:14] a mime is a terrible thing to waste... [13:15] the path might need a fix though...checking [13:15] anyone managed to install a radeon X1300 on kernel 2.6.29+? [13:15] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900] [13:16] oh, that's what i missed... [13:16] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [13:17] there's a missing ? in the xml definition, no? [13:18] Necos: damn it YES [13:18] my fault [13:19] i already had that in my patch (the corrected one), but i did the patch in the reverse order [13:19] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.157.187) joined ##slackware. [13:20] and it's not working lol [13:21] you gonna be here for a while antiwire? [13:21] i gotta run downstairs for a bit to test some network connections [13:23] Necos: fixed them [13:23] yeah i'll be around [13:24] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Success [13:25] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:26] BP{k}: emerging?!?... i think it is safe to conclude that i have reached "fully raving" at this point :P [13:26] Necos: these should do the deal http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/6XfiRp65.html http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/40cQM098.html http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/sL4ccd40.html [13:27] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [13:29] macavity: I was trying to be nice here ;) [13:29] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: "Saliendo" [13:31] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.3) joined ##slackware. [13:31] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [13:31] well, here goes [13:32] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [13:32] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.249) joined ##slackware. [13:33] after "# sbopkg -i cpufreq-utils", I have now ondemand cpufreq scaling ;) [13:33] gtl: thx :-) [13:34] hmm... why is cpufreq-utils not part of mainline slackware?!? [13:34] bbl [13:34] gtl: you can get that with hal too if you use it you know. no need for cpufrequtils [13:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:35] I jus fixed up the stock scripts and patches for Firefox 3.5 and the acid3 test gets 93/100 [13:35] whatever the fsck that means [13:36] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:36] 3.0.11 was getting 71/100 for me [13:36] macavity: why do you need a daemon just to echo something to /sys ? :) [13:37] yeah, I put the echo in rc.local, and I have ondemand too. [13:37] thrice`: because i dont want to sit and check with top all the time if i should echo this or that to sys :P [13:37] huh? [13:37] but, but, but? [13:37] actually, rc.modules does it by default in 13 :> [13:38] On a laptop, at least this one, ondemand is a reasonable default. [13:38] i think we just established that echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq didnt do it [13:38] sahko, thanks I'm not that familiar with hal... [13:38] macavity: why not? if you're on dual-core, do cpu1 too [13:38] hmm, IWFM [13:38] gtl: i only started getting familiar with it too. :) [13:38] oh, ah, yes [13:39] i wasnt aware that core2 could run each core at a different speed [13:39] s/only/just [13:39] that changed in 2.6.29 or something. strange [13:39] mine can't [13:40] my core duo (not the core2duo) often reports different speeds for each core under 2.6.30 [13:40] antiwire: how do you check ? [13:40] Guidance power manager in kde and cpufreq-info [13:40] oh, and in /sys ? :D [13:40] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-148-73-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] what do you think cpufreq-info reads? [13:41] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:41] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:41] if I cat /proc/cpuinfo I also shows me different speeds at times [13:42] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] mine shows 800 on both idle [13:42] always same here [13:42] cpu MHz : 1000.000 [13:42] cpu MHz : 1833.000 [13:42] that was just now [13:43] guess all cpus can't [13:43] http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono [13:43] using /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz [13:43] cat* [13:43] uuoc :) [13:44] antiwire: right, different freqs [13:44] but in /sys I get the same... [13:45] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:46] ... [13:46] anyone can point me to a fix for vmware workstation and kernel 2.6.27-x? [13:47] I read a funny blog post from someone who tried to get licensing to Microsoft's RAND patents that cover stuff in Mono. [13:47] In short: he could not obtain a license. [13:47] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:48] run for your life, he joined ! [13:48] Greetings everyone. :) [13:48] y0 C_Tux [13:48] http://www.stefanoforenza.com/hands-off-the-gimp/ relevant to mono [13:48] klontj (n=klontj@72.168.150.120) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Action: C_Tux running, ruuuuuuun ! [13:48] Action: fire|bird trips C_Tux [13:50] oh noooooeeeeeeeessss, he got me! [13:50] C_Tux: should have run faster. :) [13:51] fire|bird: hahaha, thar was a decoy! [13:51] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] C_Tux: I knew that, I just wanted to make a statement. ;) [13:51] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:52] http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/0/ [13:52] fire|bird: now, do you know that it has a bomb inside it ? tic, tic, tic [13:52] C_Tux: yeah, that's why I tossed it in the river, I'll have fish bits for life. :) [13:52] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.199) joined ##slackware. [13:53] 4, 3, 2 [13:53] go fishing now ;) [13:53] midori (just now) Total: 1160.4ms +/- 2.4% [13:53] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:55] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.199) left irc: Success [13:55] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-168-207-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:56] C_Tux: So, how's it going? [13:57] fire|bird: fine, and you ? [13:57] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] doing great, thank you. :) [13:58] I like the concept of mono [13:58] C_Tux: do you need to get another decoy now, or do you have several? :) [13:59] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Hi pi31415 [13:59] hi fire|bird, what's shaking? [13:59] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Slackware 12.2, xChat IRC." [14:00] r3n4n (n=renan@unaffiliated/r3n4n) joined ##slackware. [14:01] pi31415: Well, not a whole lot right now, just working on printing a few things. How about yourself? [14:01] a generous coworker gave me coffee, WHEEee! [14:01] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [14:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] \o/ [14:02] fire|bird: oh no, you know that terrific girl next to you? the one you met a few hours ago? she's gonna kill you [14:02] :) [14:02] I can only startx once after boot. :( [14:02] Not sure what's going on really. [14:02] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [14:02] acidchild (n=acid@spy.int.sevenl.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:02] acidchild (i=ash@septic.ziwall.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] C_Tux: eh, she left a while ago, said I was boring, not sure why, but, oh well. [14:02] Helloooo [14:02] =] [14:02] I feel like if i quit now it wouldn't start back up [14:02] Dominian: ping [14:02] y0 acidchild, how's it going? [14:03] good thanks :-) [14:03] on my new serverrrrrrrr [14:03] \o/ [14:03] hiptobecubic: wow, you've broke it, what have you done? :P [14:03] how are you? [14:03] acidchild: doing great, thank you. :) [14:03] did sf.net change cms AGAIN? [14:04] acidchild: heh [14:04] its all blue and white now.. :o [14:04] whoa, that looks different. :) [14:04] acidchild: it looks like joomla now [14:04] hey thumbs [14:05] hey sil^H^H^Hfire|bird [14:05] whoa [14:05] sil^H^H^H. :) [14:05] thumbs: how's it going? [14:05] muy bien, y tu? [14:06] doing great, thank you. :) [14:07] anyone who uses them, there are new libevent, Tor, and Privoxy sources available [14:07] Hey antiwire [14:07] fire|bird: nooooo, she came back! argh! [14:07] and vidalia's svn is updated too [14:07] Action: C_Tux has left (connection reset by peer) [14:07] C_Tux: she did? Where the heck did you send her? She isn't around here. [14:07] acidchild: pong [14:08] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [14:08] C_Tux: wow, nice try, but I know you're still here. [14:08] y0 Dominian, how's it going? [14:08] its going [14:08] you? [14:08] going great, thanks. :) [14:09] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:09] C_Tux: I'm really liking midori and arora, they are quite fast. [14:10] fire|bird: stop changing nicks dammit. :) [14:11] BP{k}++ :p [14:11] BP{k}: hahaha, this is it, I swear. [14:11] fire|bird: yeah, I survived the explosion, damn you! [14:11] C_Tux: phew, that's a relief. [14:12] BP{k}: I'd have switched to this before, instead of silvergold, if I'd have thought of it and seen it wasn't registered. [14:12] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [14:12] Action: fire|bird senses BP{k} is going to track me down and beat me with a cluebat or something. :( [14:13] fire|bird: but why fire|bird ? why not f|reb|rd ? [14:13] :D [14:13] C_Tux: oh gosh, don't give me any ideas. [14:13] but no, seriously I like this one, I'm keeping it. :) [14:13] C_Tux: althought that would have been cool. :) [14:13] fire|bird: I would never do that. [14:13] BP{k}: I know. :) [14:14] katana's are so more the more elegant choice for this like that. [14:14] BP{k}: besides, by the time you got across the pond, I'd be long gone. ;) [14:14] r3n4n (n=renan@unaffiliated/r3n4n) left irc: "leaving" [14:14] C_Tux: Argh, that's not registered either, DANG YOU. [14:15] it will be soon though. :D [14:15] fire|bird: once you'll have it registered, I'll tell you about f|r3b|rd ? :D [14:15] btw, I found this out last night, only 2 nicks per e-mail. [14:16] I pipe fire through birds now and again. [14:16] I love grilled chicken. [14:16] eviljames: lol ;p [14:16] haha [14:16] Action: fire|bird runs [14:16] chicken! [14:16] how do i install firefox 3.5? just untar the .tar.gz to /usr/lib/firefox-3.5? [14:16] gtl: don't do that [14:16] zomg .... kethry++++ [14:17] (she just bought me a bottle of belgium "Duvel" \o/\o/ [14:17] fire|bird: reminds me : eduke32 ? :D [14:17] kk, i won' t [14:17] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-71-23.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:17] I just went through and fixed up all of the stock Slackware patches to work with Firefox 3.5 [14:17] C_Tux: :O [14:17] nice [14:18] ok, time to log off [14:18] antiwire: can you elaborate on what needed to be done? [14:18] alienBlurb (i=3351@slackware.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:18] can you issue a slackbuild? [14:18] ill catch you all later, and pester you with my corny attempts at humor at a later time... you have now been properly warned [14:18] macavity (i=55529287@gateway/web/freenode/x-11cda0da04d4de6e) left irc: [14:19] BP{k}: duvel+++++ kethry sounds like a pile of win! [14:19] BP{k}: Is it the Blonde or the Bruin? [14:19] no idea, eviljames .. he's just gone to look. [14:19] (its in the fridge). [14:19] Hi kethry, how are you? [14:19] Action: eviljames <- loves his belgian beer. [14:19] eviljames: the Blonde :) [14:19] hi fire|bird .. fine thanks.. (too hot).. you? [14:20] eviljames: s/belgian// ;) [14:20] doing great, thank you. [14:20] thumbs: just patch fixes mostly [14:20] path** [14:20] nice! and while I agree on that substitution, it seems that belgium produces some finer than average brews. [14:20] eviljames: and yes, keth is a lotta win :) [14:20] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Like Gulden Draak or Piraat (both 10+% alcohol and delicious) [14:20] and eviljames thankyou. i am a pile of win. although i do think BP{k} is mostly winning on his quest to have most of ## gnaw their livers out with jealousy. [14:21] thumbs gtl: (2009-07-02 10:27:10) antiwire: Necos: these should do the deal http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/6XfiRp65.html http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/40cQM098.html http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/sL4ccd40.html [14:21] eviljames: I got a nice taste for Duvel when serving my time in the RLNAF, where the chaplain was having open bar on thursday and serving duvels as the sole beer (he had a sense of humour) [14:21] antiwire: muchas gracias [14:21] np [14:21] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@mpd-2458.tvcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:22] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-158-42.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [14:22] BP{k}: haha sounds like a great sense of humour, doesn't Duvel translate directly to Devil? [14:22] hi [14:22] hi [14:22] eviljames: yep. :) [14:22] f|r3b|rd (n=f|r3b|rd@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:22] C_Tux: are you happy now? :) [14:22] I've sure seen a lot of references to the term Cowboy Coder recently [14:22] f|r3b|rd: \o/ [14:23] antiwire, should this be applied in any specific order? [14:23] kethry: Keep up the good work! :D [14:23] pi31415: yee haw! [14:23] gtl: look at the stock build scripts... [14:23] C_Tux: :) grouped this one to my silvergold nick. :) [14:23] darmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:23] although your nick might be hard to tab-complete ;) [14:23] ok [14:23] gtl: those go in place of the old 3.0.11 patches and need to be gzipped as well [14:23] darmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:23] C_Tux: is it? :) [14:24] f|r3b|rd: f works for me. [14:24] eviljames: in other words, a self-taught person without credentials or degree [14:24] Action: f|r3b|rd runs from BP{k}, he won't like this. :D [14:24] my god, you same 4 guys are in here like 24/7 [14:24] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-71-23.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:24] do you ever sleep? [14:24] dartmouth: nope [14:24] are we suppose to? [14:24] sleep is for the weak [14:24] lord almighty [14:24] eviljames: i'll certainly try... :) [14:24] eviljames: works good? awesome. [14:24] gtl: all three should be applied but the most important one is http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/sL4ccd40.html [14:24] eviljames: plus I have the official duvel glass as well to drink from :D [14:24] i wish i knew how to do that without it affect my health [14:25] dartmouth: you haven't found the secret yet, keep looking. :) [14:25] or how to type, or spell [14:25] Action: f|r3b|rd hands dartmouth a dictionary. [14:25] dartmouth: we actually work our nicknames in shifts.. I'm the day shift pi31415 [14:25] Action: dartmouth pours spaghetti sauce on it and then notices something is wrong [14:25] dartmouth: you're doing it wrong. :) [14:25] f is ok for me too, as long as somebody else whos nick starts with f doesn't speak ;) [14:26] kk, i'm not on slackware-current, is that an issue? firefox here is 3.0.4 [14:26] f|r3b|rd: the last time someone told me that it ended up with me doing it really, really right ;) [14:26] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-71-23.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [14:26] dartmouth: am I one of the four ? ;p [14:26] C_Tux: no, you're french, you don't count [14:26] C_Tux: haha, then you would have a harder time with tab completion. [14:26] gtl: I don't know [14:26] gtl: I run 3.0.11 on 12.2 [14:27] gtl: :) [14:27] f|r3b|rd: f? oh no ='( [14:27] gtl: slackpkg update [14:27] what's good for managing thousands of photos in a single directory? [14:27] C_Tux: haha [14:27] sure [14:27] dartmouth: pfff -_- [14:27] dartmouth: digikam? :) [14:27] i checked out f-spot, but it's got a ton of gnome depencies [14:27] ajasdkl;jf [14:27] f-spot, ugh [14:27] -dependencies [14:27] dartmouth: subdirectories [14:27] go get digikam and be happy. [14:27] dartmouth: i use digikam, its not bad [14:27] pi31415: that would imply organizational skills [14:28] dartmouth: digikam handles my over 10,000 pictures just great. [14:28] dartmouth: its got some photo manipulation stuff involved in it too. [14:28] i really do have the hardest time managing all my personal files, my home dir is a mess. i have hundreds of directories in my home dir and even more in my Desktop dir [14:28] i reinstalled this lappy yesterday and forgot updating it [14:28] lol [14:28] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-16-38.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-78-169.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl8-70-55.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-78-169.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:30] dartmouth: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/graphics/digikam/ ;) [14:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-78-169.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] gtl: well yes. [14:30] well i dont so much need photo manipulation, i've got a gimp tweaked all to hell, I just need some way to organize them, where i can browse by different criteria that I can set. i really need a photo organization app that is smarter than I am so I don't have to learn how to be organized. [14:30] gtl: 12.2 has a *lot* of updates. [14:30] plainly put. [14:30] dartmouth: that's just what digikam will do [14:30] oh [14:30] dartmouth: since I'm such a jerk I'd suggest perl [14:30] well i will install it from ports, then [14:30] yes, digikam++ [14:30] antiwire: hahaha [14:31] jerkwire: i am not writing a perl/tk script to manage my photos, that sounds like work. [14:31] Action: f|r3b|rd hands dartmouth a 10 pound perl book. :) [14:31] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-193.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-78-169.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:32] by the way, i have my own version of sbopkg that is just a couple of rsync commands and shell scripts that is working really well for me, is sbopkg much more than that? [14:32] yes [14:32] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-78-169.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] can you give me a sales pitch? [14:32] yes, much, much more. [14:32] i'll blog about it if you can convince me to try it [14:33] lol [14:33] dartmouth: no, just check out sbopkg.org [14:33] ugh [14:33] oh wait, that's work. [14:33] ^ this man 'gets it' [14:33] this seems to be a theme with dartmouth [14:33] you sound like antler, lazy as heck. :P [14:33] antiwire: indeed. [14:33] no, I'm actually smart. I just don't try. [14:33] well that's two incompatible attributes [14:33] you're smart? give me a sales pitch for that, I'll blog about it. [14:33] not really [14:34] f|r3b|rd: IQ tested and confirmed at 167 [14:34] dartmouth: pic of results or it isn't true. :) [14:34] you can be smart and you can fail to try but having both attributes means you will get far fewer smart things accomplished [14:34] f|r3b|rd: only if I can sleep with your girlfriend. [14:34] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [14:34] :O [14:35] jerkwire, who wants to accomplish? I want to become fat and stale from having used my intellect to automate all of my thinking and work. [14:35] dartmouth: well, if you can sleep with someone that doesn't exist, go for it. [14:35] fire|bird: you can get another bomb-robot-girlfriend so you can send it to dartmouth ;) [14:35] i hear japan has some good looking sexbots now [14:35] C_Tux: bahhahaha, I can, can't I. [14:36] dartmouth: yeah, until the robot malfunctions and you're stuck. :) [14:36] robots, the next best thing to zombie slaves [14:36] f|r3b|rd: yeah that whole 'swelling' thing isn't very compatible with tight non-flesh holes. anyone who's been 15 can tell you that. [14:37] hahaha [14:37] oh, whoaaaa, digikam slackbuild is not compatible with -current [14:37] you sound like you say that from experience. [14:37] hi all [14:37] dartmouth: go get digikam 0.10.0 [14:37] do I have to? [14:37] so, anyone watching fireworks Saturday? [14:37] you don't need any of the deps, current has them. [14:38] oh nice [14:38] dartmouth: oh yeah, again, that's work, sorry. :) [14:38] well did you have to pass any special build options to it? like tell it where anything is or did you just do the ./configure make install clean? [14:38] Just look at a SlackBuild for it dartmouth [14:38] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] oi vey [14:39] 'work' [14:39] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Connection timed out [14:39] Like, mine [14:39] oh [14:39] 'not work' :D [14:39] alienBOB: you are awesome man, I've been coasting off your work for years now [14:39] we know [14:39] Action: Dominian ducks [14:39] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [14:39] dartmouth: have you ever told him thank you? [14:39] I meager intellect is not in my way at least [14:40] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:40] f|r3b|rd: i haven't figured out a way to do that, yet; im not the type to just say 'thank you', i like sending people cards and stuff. [14:40] My SlackBuilds stem from the fact that I am lazy, so I try to automate as much as I can, too ;-) [14:40] dartmouth: heh, so instead of saying thank you, you ask for his address? [14:40] Send him an e-card [14:40] f|r3b|rd: im just concerned about alienBOB knowing my address, he might come to my house and kill me the next time I get stuck trying to fix my xorg [14:40] Maybe I'll do a noobfarm e-card [14:41] alienBOB: Well, either way, you do excellent work. Thanks. :) [14:41] "This quote made me think of you..." [14:41] Dominian: haha [14:41] dartmouth: I don't care enough to come and kill you or I would have done that last year [14:41] true [14:41] haha [14:41] dartmouth: you're alive, therefore, you're lucky. :) [14:41] oh that was before last year, that was like two years ago now, i think [14:42] dartmouth: and, you've managed to not get kicked from here either, well, that I can think of anyway. [14:42] Time flies [14:42] alienBOB: if it's any consolation, all that hardship and beating knowledge into my brain actually made me reasonably competent with linux [14:42] tooly (n=tooly@e178132047.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [14:42] dartmouth: it just didn't help the laziness. :) [14:42] hmmm, I wouldn't mind dartmouth being killed, he's mean to me ='( [14:42] exactly. [14:42] C_Tux: im not mean to you [14:42] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [14:43] you're mean to the french people ='( [14:43] C_Tux: just send him a robot woman with a special surprise. [14:43] brb [14:43] C_Tux: I accept your disability with open arms. just because youre french doesn't automatically mean you're good for nothing. I just wouldn't invite you to join my Squadron after I get out of BMT [14:43] f|r3b|rd (n=f|r3b|rd@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "Leaving." [14:44] Nick change: fire|bird -> f|r3b|rd [14:44] f|r3b|rd: I don't know, the last one had a problem, maybe I shouldn't use windows on something with a bomb =/ [14:44] dartmouth: :P [14:44] don't use windows on anything with a bomb [14:44] C_Tux: nah, you should use ubuntu. ;0 [14:44] ;0 [14:44] whoops [14:44] dartmouth: wouldn't that be operating on the big assumption anyone would want to join your squadron? :P [14:45] BP{k}: I changed the nick again, are you alright with it? :) [14:45] BP{k}: I'm a one-man army, of course they would. You've seen how resilient I can be. [14:45] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-29-87.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:45] I'm just not fun. [14:45] f|r3b|rd: hmmm, just tried, the bot smacked me =/ [14:45] dartmouth: we've noticed. :) [14:45] well the last statement is something we all can agree on. [14:45] C_Tux: haha [14:46] BP{k}: and hey, if i can get this far without training, imagine how I'd be with some solid, voluntary training. [14:46] f|r3b|rd: no :P [14:46] How about you let me involuntarily train you? [14:46] voluntary? oh gosh no, you better pay the poor sucker that has to do that. [14:46] plus if i make it through my first term, i've got rank to save my ass when i'm being a butthead [14:46] BP{k}: :) [14:47] BP{k}: I'm sorry. ;) [14:47] Action: f|r3b|rd sends dartmouth to basic training. :) [14:47] BP{k}: the only thing I'm concerned about in the Air Force once I get situated is getting drunk. I can't be around booze. Ever. [14:47] wuss [14:47] dartmouth: especially if you're around aircraft. [14:48] Uhm. BP{k} you've seen first hand what alcohol does to me. [14:48] you might end up trying to fly one. [14:48] does to you? [14:48] yeah [14:48] it's bad. [14:48] don't ask. [14:48] phroggy (n=phroggy@webwizardry.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] you mean "you've seen first hand how I can't control myself when I drink" [14:48] antiwire: it gives him a brain, very scary. [14:48] what jerkwire said. [14:49] antiwire: I have that problem. Except I don't consider it a problem. It's a feature, not a bug. [14:49] The only thing that happens to me as I continue to drink is a depressed CNS and eventually I put my head down and sleep. no big deal [14:49] When I am drunk, I say all the things I think before I think about them and don't say when I am sober. [14:50] does "upgradepkg samba*" restart samba if it is running? [14:50] pi31415: no [14:50] It also makes me psychotic, depending on what I'm drinking. [14:50] I become obsessive and confrontational. [14:51] dartmouth, u on some sort of pills ? [14:51] hi, I can't get Samba to recognize my CUPS printers. Am I missing something? Is it a weird bug somewhere? [14:51] Now instead of becoming confrontational, channel that energy into making fun of the hottest woman in the room. [14:51] DeeeeP: nope, just boooze [14:51] DeeeeP: no. it just does that to me. [14:51] so I don't drink anymore. [14:51] phroggy, u can use it outside samba [14:52] with a ipp link or http link [14:52] i guess if I were trying to make a brute force slackware autoupdate script, i'd rsync the patches directory, watch for new files, check to see if the package is already installed, if so, upgradepkg, then at the end if upgradepkg has been run then I'd reboot just to make sure no stale insecurities remained [14:52] wtf [14:52] I'm tryin to use slackpkg [14:52] it says uncomment a mirror [14:52] ... [14:52] so I do, yet I still get the same "uncomment a mirror then run this" [14:53] and did you listen to what it said to do? [14:53] well, duhh - ofc [14:53] pastebin your mirror file [14:53] What line did you uncomment? [14:53] I uncommented a mirror, and it's still asking for it to be uncommented. [14:53] 2 sec [14:53] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] DeeeeP: yes, outside of Samba, CUPS works fine. I want to be able to print through Samba. [14:54] oh ok [14:55] it's supposed to just magically work, finding my printers from /etc/printcap. Somehow, Samba isn't seeing them, apparently. [14:55] i never used it on samba , as cups server worked fine [14:55] ? [14:56] moh2a (n=mohaa@89.16.15.44) joined ##slackware. [14:56] I've been Googling, but everything I've found just says it's supposed to work as long as smb.conf looks right, which mine does. [14:56] UK, 1Gbit [14:56] ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.slackware.com/slackware-12.2/ [14:56] ^ i uncommented that [14:56] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.83.246) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:56] have you tried cupsaddsmb? [14:56] moh2a (n=mohaa@89.16.15.44) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:56] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.44) joined ##slackware. [14:56] looks like an invalid mirror entry to me. [14:56] Necos: yeah, it gets stuck in an infinite loop, which sounds like this bug: http://www.nabble.com/Bug-376232:-cupsaddsmb-should-stop-after-it-fails,-not-loop-forever.-td5129926.html [14:57] might want to let the devs know [14:57] ctrl-c it? [14:57] yeah [14:57] illuz1oN: try a different mirror [14:57] illuz1oN: in what file exactly did you uncomment that line? [14:57] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) left irc: "leaving" [14:57] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:57] what file do you think :P [14:58] /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [14:58] Running command: rpcclient localhost -N -A /tmp/4a4d032ca1b21 -c 'setdriver EPSON_Stylus_Photo_820 EPSON_Stylus_Photo_820' [14:58] result was WERR_INVALID_PARAM [14:58] Unable to set Windows printer driver (1)! [14:58] testparm? [14:58] brb, 1 sec [14:58] testparm looks fine [14:58] illuz1oN: you know that your snide little replies won't win any points with people in here? [14:59] im not trying to be snide, it's obvious if the file wasn't the correct one how could I have commented a mirror. [14:59] illuz1oN: sometimes mirrors change or plain out stop working. [14:59] illuz1oN: what version of slackpkg? You do run slackware 12.2? [14:59] i'm gonna try another one now. [14:59] yeah, fresh install on 12.2 [14:59] just upgraded a few programs like firefox [14:59] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [15:00] ive not touched the kernel or anything [15:00] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:00] slackpkg - version 2.70.5 [15:00] illuz1oN: Just of of curiosity, did you even try to investigate the mirror? I'm not getting anything using that mirror location in a browser. [15:00] illuz1oN: our questions seem very basic but that is to get around unseen user faults [15:00] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:00] yeah, I understand alienBOB sorry. [15:00] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:01] ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.slackware.com/slackware-12.2/ is an invalid mirror at least [15:01] this also isn't an unexpected situation as the mirrors file itself even says: The mirrors file is kept synced with the official slackware mirrors. If you find any incorrect mirror, please report it to fizban [15:01] so now you can be the cool dude who reports it. What a deal. [15:01] Trying to contact fizban would lead to nothing, he has not been seen for over a year [15:02] heh [15:02] Then he can be the cool dude to report the bad mirror to alienBOB! [15:02] A tactic I've been increasingly using this last year or two for supporting web apps is to ask my users to take a screen shot and email it to me. [15:03] not rocket science but it can skip some technobabble on the phone [15:03] I do not support the mirror list - wasted effort [15:03] >_> [15:03] pprkut, ever get that cross-compile package rolling? [15:03] alienBOB: I think you know what I'm getting at anyway. [15:05] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Necos: pls, send me the link again [15:07] I'm getting it with every mirror I try. [15:07] i wonder what's going on with kernel.org mirroring slack [15:07] illuz1oN: did you recomment or completely remove the bad one and then try to run 'slackpkg update' again? [15:07] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:07] recomment [15:08] most are returning 550 [15:08] i'll just keep looking. [15:08] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:08] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] Question for any of you who use sendmail. I have this slackware box with a netgear NAS box directly connected to it on one of its interfaces. The NAS can send email alerts when a drive goes down or has problems. I would like to recieve these alerts but I don't want to have to go through the hassle of setting up a domain name just to do that. Generally, in this situation you would enter the TO: address as @[IP ADDRESS] but the stupid NAS web [15:09] 58% [===============================================> ] 34,904,040 1.00M/s eta 29s [15:09] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:09] now thats some pretty wicked stolen wifi [15:09] acidchild, nice. Mine only gets up to 700 [15:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] OK, so who is maintaining the mirror list? [15:10] anybody? [15:10] I swear if i have ONE more neighbor that uses their phone number as their hex key i'm just going to go over and tell them to change it. [15:10] hiptobecubic: hey i do that [15:10] haha [15:10] however, one thing it does allow for is to specify an SMTP server to route email through. My idea was to use the IP of the linux box as the SMTP server for the NAS to route through, make up some domain, foobar.com in my example, and then put 'foobar.com' in my /etc/mail/local-host-names file. So I did this, and looking at the maillogs, I see the mail arrive from the NAS box, but instead of getting placed into root's inbox, it gets queued up. Any [15:10] amazon10x, haha [15:10] and here i thought i was being clever [15:10] amazon10x, you and ten million others [15:10] hiptobecubic: http://slackadelic.com/~ash/ap-22009-06-26.jpg [15:11] hiptobecubic: my wifi ^^ setup [15:11] jebus [15:11] what is all that [15:11] ok, back... [15:11] and how can i make one [15:11] hiptobecubic: don't walk over. Hack into their PC and leave them a note on their desktop. [15:11] acidchild: the heck [15:11] 2.4Ghz 5Ghz with 2 bi-directional 3W amps. [15:11] had to run downstairs to get something signed by the principal [15:11] lol acidchild wtf is that [15:11] lightening protectors and low pass filters. [15:11] phroggy, i'll just print out some porn motivational posters about it [15:11] acidchild, where do u get internet from ? [15:12] where is the antenna? [15:12] ooo digital imaging [15:12] the white things [15:12] random people, until my cable company gets their ass in and installs my internet [15:12] can pick about 350 wifi AP's from it [15:12] jesus christ [15:12] how many open ? [15:12] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [15:12] 30 or so [15:12] nice [15:12] haha [15:12] 100 of them or so are crackable. [15:13] good ol' WEP [15:13] phroggy: did you already paste your smb.conf? [15:13] acidchild, u get some ThompsonXXXXXX ? [15:13] indeed. mine uses WPA2 and EAP [15:13] haha DeeeeP :P [15:13] or did you fix your cups problem already while i was away? [15:13] do we have a pastebot thingie in here? [15:13] acidchild, so is that a router under the plastic box? [15:13] phroggy: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [15:13] hiptobecubic: Mini-ITX mobo [15:13] with SSD drive heh [15:13] acidchild, lol [15:13] not much else... some nice 2.4Ghz/5Ghz Wifi NIC's [15:13] acidchild, its not mine :) that algorithm was cracked, u can discover the default passwd [15:14] i suppose 350 aps would probably bork my little openwrt [15:14] haha probly yes. [15:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Client Quit [15:14] it would make your openwrt cry bloody murder [15:14] DeeeeP: ahhh cool :-) well... 'meh' :] [15:14] kismet and aircrackng pwnz0r [15:14] Necos, by cry, you mean melt [15:14] =] [15:14] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl27-137.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:14] acidchild, try http://www.nickkusters.com/SpeedTouch.aspx [15:14] :) [15:15] haha nice [15:15] lemme scan.. [15:15] hello guys [15:15] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Hey Lord_Khelben [15:15] hehe nice nick f|r3b|rd :) [15:15] Lord_Khelben: :), Thanks. :) [15:15] i need to patch my drivers for injection one of these days. it's too frustrating without [15:16] hehe yeah [15:16] DeeeeP: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/qAxpt692.html [15:16] hm, so it didn't paste into the channel automatically... [15:16] Necos: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/MT004Y88.html [15:16] thats with just iwlist... airodump etc display ALOT more... because it cycles channels rather than just goes from 1-50 channels and output [15:17] acidchild, nope, no Thompson around :| [15:17] doesn't matter 'linksys' and 'dlink' are 10mbit [15:17] :-P [15:17] Action: acidchild bonds together! [15:17] Action: C_Tux watching a James Bond [15:17] acidchild, u have ideia of your max range ? [15:17] no, that wasn't the same 'bond' ? :o [15:17] good question :-( [15:17] acidchild: What are you using as your wifi router OS? [15:18] antiwire: Linux [15:18] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [15:18] DeeeeP: good question. [15:18] what the hell is with that hostname [15:18] DeeeeP: :) still something i have yet to test. [15:18] any specific distribution or is that classified still ? ;) [15:18] TELbP0TUYOV2A .. [15:18] Archlinux. [15:18] phroggy: what is your command for cupsaddsmb? don't list the password (it should prompt you) [15:18] ha :P [15:19] acidchild: nice [15:19] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [15:19] hiptobecubic: generated off mac address and local link ipv6 [15:19] if you 'must' know. [15:19] Necos: I just did cupsaddsmb -a -v [15:19] as what user? [15:19] root [15:20] is that user in pdbedit? [15:20] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.3) left irc: "Leaving." [15:20] acidchild, alright. you win. you're a nerd and i'm just a basement dweller [15:20] I'm not familiar with pdbedit, but if you mean smbpasswd, then yes. The password I enter has to be the SMB password, not the UNIX password. [15:20] i.e., can you do smbclient //server/print$ -U root and login [15:20] yeah, that works fine. [15:20] hiptobecubic: lol wtf [15:21] blame it on the pa pa pa pa pa pa pa blame it on the passswwooooooord [15:21] ah... what version of cups? [15:21] 1.3.9 on Slackware 12.2 [15:21] hiptobecubic: the OS will be opened sourced within reason after i've finished. [15:21] because in 1.2.x, they changed the behavior of cupsaddsmb [15:21] your more than welcome to rip it apart and complain about everything in it. [15:22] brb 1 sec phroggy [15:22] what was the change? (I've never used cupsaddsmb before) [15:22] I just switched from 10.0 to 12.2 [15:22] phroggy: nice :] [15:23] 10.0 is wicked [15:23] acidchild, also , u can fry your neighbour head if u point it there , i think :> [15:23] :] [15:23] DeeeeP: yeah, i have some of them eliments turned off.. i'm in the process of sorting out tower locations. [15:23] on 10.0 Samba recognized my printers. I couldn't print to them, but they showed up! [15:23] DeeeeP: i'm starting a WiFi ISP [15:23] oh nice [15:23] downtown Toronto.. with up to 4Gbps if though-put [15:23] if oh-so-client desires. [15:24] SlAcKbArE (n=wilson@2001:470:1f10:785:204:76ff:fe36:65e9) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:24] Toronto Wireless Internet Exchange (TorWIX) =] [15:24] fastest and first IPv6 ISP in Canada [15:25] I want to work at an IXP, that would be even cooler than just a normal NOC [15:25] that's pretty sweet acidchild! [15:25] ty =] [15:26] acidchild, can u give me the amplifier diagram ? [15:26] :D [15:26] sec [15:26] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.128.113) joined ##slackware. [15:26] back [15:26] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-143-216.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:27] one_2_one (n=aaa@bl9-245-241.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:27] oh... [15:27] bu =) [15:27] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-131-16.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:28] well I'm pretty bored [15:28] Time to shotgun a cheap American beer [15:28] antiwire, you should look into the nfs code [15:28] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) left irc: "leaving" [15:28] acidchild, that's an interesting idea. Selling it as just wifi. What about people with home LAN? Now that media PC [15:28] figure out how to disable showmount from showing mount points [15:28] ;D [15:28] PC's are all the rage, a lot of people have them networked on wire [15:28] jeev: nfs has always annoyed me [15:29] it'd be good if showmount -e ip would only show what's allowed by the requestor [15:29] acidchild, tell them to get a router that can bridge? [15:29] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl27-137.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [15:29] hiptobecubic: right. [15:29] instead, it shws everything, allowing the requestor to spoof ip;mount and take someone elses files. [15:29] hiptobecubic: when someone requirests for home internet [15:29] phroggy: what's your /var/spool/cups/ look like? [15:29] we will install a AP/relay on their house... and run a ethernet or fiber if they wish [15:30] they work in a P2P style method of keeping redundancy... plus they are solar powered. [15:30] acidchild, ahh that's it. OK neat. that sounds like a good deal if you can keep it reliable [15:30] Necos: there's stuff in it, what are you looking for? [15:30] acidchild: are you guys looking for anyone field techs? [15:30] that's why it's getting stuck [15:30] antiwire: at some stage yep [15:30] do a cancel -a [15:30] interesting ;) [15:30] hiptobecubic: yep, there will always be AP's in the subway(underground) [15:30] then clear out /var/spool/cups [15:30] and then run cupsaddsmb again [15:30] antiwire, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IKnZ_tkecU http://www.su27.de/seite1.htm [15:30] wowwwww [15:31] and on lots of skyscrapers. [15:31] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-a2c720ddde6929ba) left irc: [15:31] so, mobile HD content will be available. [15:31] cody66 (n=robert@host81-156-29-192.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:31] acidchild, so where does your internet come from? [15:31] working closly with a porn site atm to use their infastructure to provide VOD [15:31] lol [15:31] haha [15:31] hiptobecubic: i know people [15:32] but he.net is going to be my IPv6 uplink [15:32] Necos: no change [15:32] one_2_one (n=aaa@bl9-245-241.dsl.telepac.pt) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:32] can you paste the output? [15:32] Somebody were asking about a theme for his university project. If you are still interested I have one. [15:33] Packet accounting and encrypted encapsulation [15:33] would be a good project [15:33] 'aspects of encryption in modern day LANS' [15:33] bhamaam [15:34] oh shit... [15:34] phroggy: [15:34] Well, I was thinking about a reverse engineering and drivers development for linux. :-) [15:34] cool :-) which drivers? [15:34] why the hell do you have force user = smbprint [15:35] do something useful. and please no python [15:35] ewww [15:35] what's wrong about python ? [15:35] python-- [15:35] lol [15:35] acidchild: For any devices [15:35] cody66 (n=robert@host81-156-29-192.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) left ##slackware. [15:36] i just get this sence of depression when ever i download something that sounds cool [15:36] and its in python. [15:36] lol [15:36] :) [15:36] i just use nicotine slsk client [15:36] in python [15:36] python >>> perl [15:36] Necos: I was just experimenting with that, for the print$ share. No sense in having drivers owned by different users there. [15:36] Lets say that you have device A but no driver for it. So, you will post a request for it on the projects site or maybe even some work in progress... [15:36] DeeeeP: see programs like nicotine make me cry [15:37] Necos: yes, the account is set up, and yes, I can write to it from Windows. [15:37] hiptobecubic: i'd disagree :-( but i'm bias. [15:37] put it in the write list [15:37] yeah , its crashes a lot [15:37] Action: hiptobecubic is scripting in perl as we speak [15:37] but its the only one [15:37] perl++ [15:37] booo perl [15:37] boooo [15:37] its nicotine or nothing [15:37] i gotta perl it up soon :-( [15:37] perl is great... =p [15:37] I think init[1] was asking for ideas for projects. [15:38] --perl-- [15:38] lolol [15:38] Action: Necos stabs hiptobecubic [15:38] the 4 directions of perl [15:38] shh [15:38] up, down, right and left. [15:38] Necos: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/FsjT0K96.html [15:38] what about forward ? :p [15:38] DeeeeP: nar [15:38] forward always leads to segfaults. [15:38] lol jk [15:38] up, down, right, left? kjlh? [15:38] perl never moves forward [15:38] Anybody interested in such kind of project? [15:38] anyway, gonna go hit the bong [15:38] the three virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris ;-) [15:39] it just puts some bandaids on some old thing that used to half work [15:39] why does perl need to move forward? [15:39] and cronic masterbater [15:39] Perl, the language of workarounds. [15:39] indeed. [15:39] <3 it [15:39] =] [15:39] can I trollz ocaml now ? [15:39] DeeeeP: i _can_ get you diagrams of 2.4ghz amps. [15:39] C_Tux: no, never. :) [15:39] perl6 is damn awesome ^_^ [15:39] f|r3b|rd ='( [15:39] DeeeeP: i don't know your electronic skillz. [15:40] I'd like to get into ruby, but i already hate it for being perl-y [15:40] C_Tux: eh, fine, go ahead. [15:40] but microwave equipment takes alot of time and skill. [15:40] acidchild, its for a friend of mine [15:40] Action: phroggy chooses not to care about perl6 [15:40] f|r3b|rd: \o/ [15:40] DeeeeP: he knows not to be stupid with it? [15:40] =] [15:40] acidchild, yeah [15:40] Action: hiptobecubic actually doesn't care about perl6 [15:40] just wanted to day that in ocaml, you never code any work-around :) [15:40] Action: acidchild has seen someone die from RF burns to the head [15:41] :o [15:41] not pretty, actully very pathetic and sad to see [15:41] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:41] u seen ? :D [15:41] u seen ? :O [15:41] oh, phroggy, have you tried running the command manually? [15:41] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:41] that's an old bug, IIRC [15:41] reminds me of when they kill cows with a iron bolt to the head. [15:41] christian (n=christia@kobz-590f9cd7.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [15:41] hello [15:41] i dislike your name. [15:41] christian: hello [15:41] sorry. i'm going to go smoke weed now, bye. [15:41] Necos: it fails because Samba can't see any printers. [15:41] root@licorice:~# rpcclient -n licorice -w workgroup -I 172.17.2.2 -U root -c enumprinters [15:41] Password: [15:41] Channel flood from phroggy -- kicking [15:41] No printers returned. [15:41] phroggy kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:42] lol [15:42] haha [15:42] phroggy (n=phroggy@webwizardry.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] Action: Necos chuckles [15:42] phroggy: good work. ;) [15:42] (ahem) oops. [15:42] pastebin ftw [15:42] the reason why it's not returning printers is because the driver hasn't been set [15:42] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [15:43] um, that doesn't make a lot of sense. [15:43] the driver is something Windows needs to have in order to communicate with the printer, but the printer has to exist first, no? [15:43] Why does tcl get its own directory in slackware? [15:44] pi31415: legacy reasons, dating back to when Slackware was distributed on 3.5" floppies. [15:44] yes it does actually ^_^ [15:44] probably the folder which size increased the least ;p [15:44] pi31415: what you're calling a "directory" used to be called a "disk series" [15:45] Years ago I remember installing NetBSD on an old laptop using a bazillion floppies [15:45] I think Slackware should reorganize a bit, rename them "categories" or something, and make more of them. "L" is far too broad. [15:46] I also remember EE students at OSU using Slackware because it was more stable than Windows at the time [15:46] phroggy: the driver has been put in the database, but the database hasn't been updated to point update the entry for that particular printer [15:46] what database? [15:46] ntprinters.tdb [15:46] and where is that? [15:47] what's the keyboard command to change workspaces in flux? [15:47] oh, never mind, found it [15:47] /var/cache/samba [15:47] looks like /var/lib/samba now (it was /var/cache/samba on my old system) [15:48] what the cupsaddsmb command does is put the drivers in print$, then update the database to tell samba about the drivers it needs to send to the client (use client driver = no), and the point the samba printer entry to the driver set [15:48] that's what the last command is doing [15:48] that makes sense [15:49] but the samba printer entry doesn't exist, so it can't be pointed to the driver set [15:49] and due to a bug, it goes into an infinite loop instead of aborting. [15:49] Washington state is so strange. http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/puyallups_nearly_naked_firewor.html [15:49] it's a bug that if any of the commands fails, you have to run them manually [15:50] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn248.78-99-181.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [15:50] or you have to nuke the printer databases and start over [15:50] should I do that? [15:51] there are 2 printer databases, printers.tdb and ntprinters.tdb [15:51] Samba should just find whatever's in /etc/printcap, yes? [15:51] that's the trick of cupsaddsmb, it uses /etc/cups/printers.conf instead of /etc/printcap [15:51] I mean, the printers should be shared even if I don't do anything with drivers at all [15:51] oh shit... [15:51] ok, well either way... [15:51] i just noticed [15:51] printers fucking blow. [15:52] my printers are in /etc/cups/printers.conf and /etc/printcap [15:52] you're missing printing = cups in your config [15:52] seriously? [15:52] raela (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] and use client driver = no [15:53] have you connected to localhost:ipp [15:53] ? [15:53] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:54] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/jvX0lO82.html [15:54] testparm -v says I have printing = cups, that's the default [15:54] even though it's not explicit in smb.conf [15:54] Necos: pls, would u send me the link again? [15:54] 1 sec, gotta help my boss [15:54] D-r_Flower: brb 1 sec [15:55] ok [15:55] I do have use client driver = No [15:55] http://slackware.com seems to be down [15:55] printers are evil [15:55] which is also the default [15:55] christian: up for me [15:55] postscript is a lesser evil [15:56] it's amazing how much smaller postscript is over a network than pcl5 or pcl6 [15:56] Action: phroggy saw Damian Conway approximate the value of pi in PostScript [15:57] christian: indeed [15:57] dtanner, i cannot access http://slackware.com, but i can access ftp.slackware.com [15:57] [cid ~]$ telnet slackware.com 80 [15:57] Trying 64.57.102.34... [15:57] computer says noo... [15:57] brb [15:57] phroggy (n=phroggy@webwizardry.net) left irc: "perl -e"push @x,ord()-32 for split'','Z=!;g&7?<:*5gI5:>oO&:;- c';split'','phroggy'x4;print chr^shift @_ for @x,109"" [15:57] it doesn't load here either. [15:57] slakcware.com that is [15:58] y0 dtanner [15:58] back [15:58] i can access both christian. your dns server must be havin trouble because http://slackware.com is loading fast as lightning here. [15:58] sup f|r3b|rd [15:58] dtanner: it isn't loading here at all. [15:59] dtanner: just working on testing the guide, yourself? [15:59] dtanner: you are behind a proxy/cache probably [15:59] user2560 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] sh0ne (n=Unknown@nat.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [15:59] ZenoArrow (n=chatzill@79-76-168-239.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:00] you are correct, i logged into my netbsd account and it is not loading there. [16:01] f|r3b|rd: just got back from lunch. had raw oysters and a shrimp po-boy. =) [16:01] that's yummy! [16:01] Hi all. Having trouble with wireless settings. iwconfig doesn't always show wlan0. Anyone know what I can try to diagnose the problem? [16:01] mmm hmmmm [16:02] ZenoArrow: some sware by wicd [16:02] never used it myself [16:02] i'm using wicd [16:02] it's good enough [16:03] dtanner, have wicd but it won't work if wlan0 is missing, that's the issue. [16:03] it doesn't handle everything but it handles the typical cases alright [16:03] i see [16:03] ZenoArrow, wlan0 just disappears? [16:03] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:03] ZenoArrow, anything in dmesg? [16:03] hiptobecubic, sometimes when I log in I get wlan0, othertimes I don't, it seems completely random. [16:04] odd. [16:04] can't help you there [16:04] raelalkoira (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:04] hiptobecubic, what will dmesg show? I'm not in Linux right now, having to type this from Win2k. [16:04] wow, here I thought this channel was boring... turns out I was an hour behind in the backlog. [16:05] ZenoArrow, i was just going to ask if it had any errors or disconnects or anything [16:05] Ah right I see. [16:05] No, the connection stays when wlan0 is available (or at least I'm able to force it to connect). [16:06] ZenoArrow: What wireless chipset is it? [16:06] dmesg should tell you if the kernel is seeing wlan0 come and go i think [16:06] ndiswrapper shows that the device is present, driver loaded, and modprobe shows the kernel object for ndiswrapper is in use. [16:06] wlan0 is likely an Atheros NIC. [16:06] phroggy (n=phroggy@webwizardry.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] NDISWRAPPER?! [16:06] back [16:06] NDISWRAPPPER!?!? [16:06] ZenoArrow: What chipset? [16:07] Action: rob0 prepares the exorcism rites [16:07] Alan Hicks, yes I use ndiswrapper. Device is Netgear WG111T, which uses Atheros chipset. [16:07] my iwl4965 is named wlan0 (that's slamd64 though) [16:07] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:07] ZenoArrow: lspci -v [16:08] Atheros chipset has been supported by default for a while now, only need one .inf file to get driver working. [16:08] ath5k is in the Slackware kernels, -current and 12.2, works fine with Atheros. [16:08] ZenoArrow: What version of Slackware are you running? [16:08] It would be lsusb, as it's a USB device. [16:08] rob0: Same for ath9k if you're running -current. [16:08] ZenoArrow: Then lsusb [16:08] ath9k is in 12.2 IIRC [16:08] rob0: Yes but it blows. [16:08] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-35-151-85.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [16:09] As I mentioned earlier I'm not in Linux right now, having to type this from Windows because can't get Internet connection in Linux. [16:09] but I'm not sure, probably neither of those work with USB devices. [16:09] rob0: Crap like 1Mb sync speeds. [16:09] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:09] ZenoArrow: Well, what version of Slackware are you running? [16:09] Action: hiptobecubic looks around for his goats' blood [16:09] Isn't that in the kernel now? [16:09] Either way, the device is recognised [16:09] By shitty ndiswrapper. [16:09] It's trivial to install a -current kernel and modules on an older version, as long as it supports 2.6.x. [16:10] It shows as a USB device in ndiswrapper and with lsusb last time I checked. [16:10] I just can't check it for you again now, that's all [16:10] I'm sure that's not the issue here. [16:10] In fact I put a s64-current kernel on a slamd64 install. [16:10] rob0: Yeah, but it might require an upgraded wireless-tools package, which should be trivial to upgrade as well, but I won't vouch for that. [16:11] I stick new kernels into mine all the time [16:11] oh, possibly, yes. 12.2 was okay for that, I think. [16:11] Never had a problem. [16:11] The only thing I can think of is the order in which the kernel modules are loaded. [16:11] ZenoArrow: If I were in your shoes, I'd upgrade the box to -current and use the in-kernel drivers instead of shitty windows drivers running through even shittier ndiswrapper. [16:11] Necos: where were we? [16:11] How am I meant to use the in-kernel drivers for a device that doesn't have an in-kernel driver? [16:12] Ath is in kernel [16:12] ZenoArrow: If it's Atheros, it *HAS* an in-kernel driver now. [16:12] You have yet to show us that it doesn't. [16:12] Haven't you been listening to what we've been saying? [16:12] Ath is NOT the only driver needed though, the device needs two drivers. [16:12] Wait... noob. Nevermind. [16:12] ZenoArrow: How do you know that? [16:12] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:13] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.5.169) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:13] Before Linux supported Atheros out of the box I needed to load two drivers in ndiswrapper, one for Atheros, one for WG111T. [16:13] Now I only need to load one. [16:13] Is there a separate file to edit besides /etc/lilo.conf if you want to change the boot process (i.e. not be prompted)? [16:13] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ad2a991.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:13] But the device still needs the WG111T driver. [16:13] just lilo.conf [16:14] I have commented out "prompt", tooled around with different "timeout" values [16:14] LongeFlucht, After editing lilo.conf, run /sbin/lilo as root [16:14] and none of them apply when rebooting [16:14] ZenoArrow: I *highly* doubt that. [16:14] LongeFlucht: you need to run /sbin/lilo after editing lilo.conf, unlike grub [16:14] You highly doubt that? [16:14] How would I test your theory then? [16:15] thanks! [16:15] What do I need to type in a terminal to see if the Atheros driver will work on its own? [16:15] Using -current with the ath5k or ath9k driver. [16:15] modprobe [16:15] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "brb" [16:16] Modprobe what exactly? How do I build the module for modprobe to load? [16:16] 12.2 stock kernel package -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7/drivers/net/wireless/ath9k /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k [16:16] You don't need to build it! It's already there! [16:16] modprobe ath5k; modprobe ath9k. [16:16] There. Now do you want me to hold your hand when you go to the bathroom too? [16:16] Fine, I'll try it. [16:17] snicker [16:17] No, but if you're giving advice may I recommend that you try and be concise with your answers/ [16:17] Hell if you plug it in after the box boots, udev will probably handle everything for you on -current. [16:17] You're not in Linux now, you cannot answer the questions we have asked! [16:17] Alan_Hicks: I don't need hand holding but some aiming help would be nice [16:17] dngr (n=dngr@119.237.151.70) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:17] ZenoArrow: May I recommend that when asking hackers for advice, you actually read and attempt to comprehend what they are saying? [16:17] antiwire, just pee outside. [16:17] lol [16:17] rob0, which questions didn't I answer? [16:18] lsusb / lspci? [16:18] antiwire: Just sit down like a girl. [16:18] ZenoArrow: note /giving/ advice. [16:18] oohh snap [16:18] it's a gift. not a right. [16:18] If 'use modprobe' constitutes advice, then I'd advise you need to be a little more verbose to get your point across [16:18] bayrouni (n=bayrouni@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) joined ##slackware. [16:18] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Sitting down is handy when you're too drunk, as well. Might be easier than going outside. [16:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432125.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:19] modprobe ath5k <--- that work for ya? =p [16:19] Anyone using jackd audio? Where would you suggest I implement the README suggested command? 'setcap cap_sys_nice=ep /usr/bin/jackd' [16:19] if giving advice on how to give advice to people you've asked for advice is how you try get advice, I advice you change your tact. [16:19] Whatever. I won't waste my breath with you any more. [16:19] Action: fred hides [16:19] *advise [16:19] which version slackware are you using? ( for one question you never answered ) [16:19] fred, yes but if you're going to give something at least try and make it useful. I really can't see this modprobe ath5k working, but we'll see. [16:19] on the last one. [16:19] fred wins! [16:19] fred: noobfarm! [16:19] See ya. [16:19] ZenoArrow (n=chatzill@79-76-168-239.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]" [16:19] dayam what a hard head [16:20] br00tal1 (n=br00tal@eu130.ips.paulbunyan.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] dtanner: Im not hard-headed! [16:20] br00tal1 (n=br00tal@eu130.ips.paulbunyan.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:20] ;^) [16:20] =0 [16:20] Just a hick :p [16:20] From Jawjaw. [16:21] Though much more understandable than me to the bulk of people I gather :p [16:21] antiwire: you would just run that command you posted, followed by running jackd. if you really wanted to you could write a wrapper script, or add that setcap command to rc.local, etc [16:21] antiwire: afaik, you should only need to run setcap once. I don't know if it is persistent over a reboot [16:21] getcap /usr/bin/terminal [16:22] hollywoodb: Ah! [16:22] hollywoodb: thanks for that info. [16:22] monstro (i=1000@189.111.20.234) joined ##slackware. [16:22] How to up module to htb ? [16:22] antiwire: setcap/getcap need to be run as root [16:22] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:22] Zeno was a sweet fellow. http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [16:23] monstro: to load any module in a linux kernel you use "modprobe [module-name]" [16:24] what is this? how do I copy a file day? [16:24] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:24] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:24] The surly leading the sweet ... [16:24] dtanner, okay, than which is name of module ? [16:24] LongeFlucht, don't forget to run Lilo after editing it [16:25] monstro: now that is an absurd question considering i have no fscking idea what you are trying to do/load/the-device .... [16:25] Action: hiptobecubic isn't connected... [16:25] there we go! [16:25] monstro: #slackare-br [16:26] monstro: May have easier time in Brazillian Portugese channel. [16:26] Alan_Hicks, okay [16:27] monstro: sorry , i didn't know you were having a hard time with the language barrier. [16:28] Alan_Hicks speaks pt-BR: "Get off mah porch, yew geese!" [16:29] Action: Alan_Hicks does speak pr-BR [16:29] Eu quero uma cerveja, por favor. [16:29] s/pr-BR/en_GA [16:29] haha [16:29] so see senor' ... gimme a cigar [16:29] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:30] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left ##slackware. [16:30] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:30] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.128.113) left irc: "Leaving." [16:30] Necos: its the same result - no fire, no fox [16:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:31] must have been my ff cache... i try shift+reload and i can not connect to slackware.com either. [16:31] s/cigar/chaw/ [16:31] klontj (n=klontj@72.168.150.120) left irc: [16:32] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.30.250) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Yeah, slackware.com is having some (slightly expected) unexpected downtime. Don't know exactly what the problem is, but it's being worked on. [16:35] Alan_Hicks, why slightly expected? [16:36] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [16:36] br00tal (n=br00tal@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] It's just an older machine. That's all. [16:36] hiptobecubic: that's on a need-to-know basis [16:37] Alan_Hicks: awww [16:37] lol [16:37] Sooner or later things just wear out. It happens. [16:37] you know that *that* means right [16:37] Action: alienBOB is an older machine as well.... no expected downtime soon! [16:37] what* [16:37] alienBOB: Get much older and you'll have trouble getting it up-time. ;-) [16:37] HEYOOOO [16:37] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [16:37] zing! [16:38] hiptobecubic: the Changelog mentions a freeze too, I wonder if this is a coincidence [16:38] hmm bummer