[00:02] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] y0 Rat409 [00:02] hey fire|bird, how are you? [00:03] Rat409: great, thanks. you? I'm still battling SeaMonkey. [00:03] good thanks [00:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [00:11] fx_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:11] bah, fucking hell. [00:11] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: "later." [00:11] talk about a useless "hack", it only works if nothing but the USB key is in. [00:12] fx_: hey, what exactly is your ultimate goal here? [00:12] or else it just loops endlessly. [00:12] Urchlay, mmm simple: have 16 disks in that machine plus a USB boot key. [00:12] ok [00:12] Urchlay, boot off the USB key. [00:12] er, out of curiosity, why? [00:13] sigh [00:13] no, I'm not being criticial, I seriously want to know [00:13] because I want to use the maximum space in the case? [00:13] so I'm booting off an USB stick that has slack on it [00:14] thing is the stick was installed as /dev/sda but with so many drives in the system the drive "letter" keeps being shuffled around back and forth [00:15] sometimes it's /dev/sdl then it's /dev/sdm [00:15] hi all , I have a question , when I hot-plug the USB thumb drive it should be driver created ? like /dev/sdb ? or how it works ? where to find these information ? any help. or suggestion thanks in advance. [00:15] yeah... why not do the install on the USB stick, while all the other drives are plugged in? [00:15] so we first thought of using UUIDs. [00:15] that's what I did. [00:15] err no. [00:16] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:16] I mean is your drive-letter-shuffling is caused by the fact that you start off with none of the other drives present, so the stick = /dev/sda, then later you add drives and it becomes /dev/sdl? [00:16] the fdisk -l shows that there is a /dev/sdb1 is there but how that is working > [00:16] *? [00:16] because I'm installing from an atapi CD ROM and turns out that while the CD is in, the key is seen as /dev/sdl but then when the CD drive is replaced by a hdd, it is seen as /dev/sdm.. [00:16] so we went further on and decided to use UUIDs [00:17] oh, it's not sda vs. sdl, it's sdl vs. sdm... [00:17] but it wouldn't work no matter what we did. [00:17] and you can't install from a USB stick to another USB stick, for similar reasons... [00:17] until we stumbled on many urls that claim that UUID and LABEL in lilo do NOT work unless you use a rdinit.gz [00:17] so I digged a few scripts [00:18] followed the guide at the bottom here: [00:18] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/how-to-get-kernel-to-recognize-rootlabelfoo-parameter-600182/ [00:18] and guess what? it works! [00:18] excepted it stops working as soon as you add in any extra drives.. [00:18] pretty ironic. [00:19] RedSocrates (n=RedSocra@cpe-69-207-175-250.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:19] the system boots up, dmesg shows every drives present on the system and then blkid keeps looping displaying all the partitions that it can see. [00:19] has to be a bug in the patch. [00:22] hm. When you weren't using labels or uuids, were you able to get to a lilo prompt and pass "root=/dev/sdm1" or whatever at the boot prompt? [00:22] no [00:22] yuck [00:22] it would boot off right away and then spit out: VFS: kernel panic bla bla bla [00:22] even if you added a rootdelay at the boot prompt? [00:22] rootdelay=secs [00:23] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [00:23] hm. Using which kernel? slackware -huge or -generic or something else? [00:24] -hugesmp.s [00:24] ok, so it's not a -generic + lack of initrd problem... hm. [00:25] has to be a bug in the script.. [00:25] when the kernel's listing the partitions it can see, before it panics, does it even show /dev/sdm at all? [00:25] it's right at the bottom of the URL I linked just above [00:25] oh it sure does [00:26] goes VFS: kernel panic, here's a list of available partitions: [00:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.16.14) joined ##slackware. [00:26] then sda sdb sdc ... sdj sdk sdl sdm [00:27] hm. So the kernel's able to see /dev/sdm, but it's unable to mount /dev/sdm1 as a root partition. Weird. [00:27] (or /dev/sdm5 or whatever you installed to) [00:28] right because in the lilo.conf it looks for the / off /dev/sda1 [00:28] and if I edit the conf and change it to /dev/sdm1 [00:28] if you pass "root=/dev/sdm1" at the boot: prompt, you're overriding that setting in lilo.conf [00:29] when doing a lilo it tells me cannot stat that device [00:29] webbi (n=webbi@190.247.208.97) joined ##slackware. [00:29] hello [00:29] does sdm actually HAVE a partition table? [00:29] sure [00:29] I don't mean "edit lilo.conf to change root=", I mean type "linux root=/dev/sdm1" at the "LILO boot:" prompt [00:30] is there something that i need to config to enable external access via ssh? [00:30] Urchlay, yea but even if that would work, how to automatize it? [00:30] if you can but once get it booted, *then* you can set "root=/dev/sdm1" and "boot=/dev/sdm" in lilo.conf, re-run lilo, and it should boot correctly after that [00:30] webbi: start ssh [00:30] straterra: its enabled [00:30] then no [00:30] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:30] i can access if im in lan, but not from outside [00:30] also firewall accept it [00:31] ISP could filter it [00:31] Change port and try again [00:31] mmm [00:32] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:32] fx: the problem seems to be caused by the installer kernel seeing a different set of drives/partitions than the installed system will eventually be (because of the cd-rom drive being present). If you can manually boot it from the lilo prompt into the installed system, you can edit lilo.conf and run lilo in the installed-system environment. Make sense? [00:32] Urchlay, let's see. [00:34] done [00:34] firewall issue [00:34] thanks anyway! [00:34] bye! [00:34] webbi (n=webbi@190.247.208.97) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:34] Urchlay, I love you man. [00:35] Action: fx_ didn't know that passing a root=/dev/sdm1 would eventually suffice.. [00:38] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [00:38] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:38] it worked? rockin' [00:38] yeah, I've had to do stuff like that when switching between old kernels where SATA drives are /dev/hda and new ones where they're /dev/sda [00:40] hello again, squadrons|pushbutton [00:40] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] formerly known as Urchlay :) [00:40] hello, inherits|porches [00:40] Oh, I like that one. :P [00:40] even chanserv was nick collided with syn [00:40] now make it come true, please.... [00:41] Urchlay: How'd the benefit gig go? [00:41] would suck to inherit the porch, but not the rest of the house [00:41] it went good [00:42] wore a minimalist werewolf costume, the gloves got in the way a bit when playing [00:42] (I cut the backs of the fingers out so they weren't all that bad) [00:42] cool [00:42] How'd it work with the time change then, did you get you play a little extra? [00:45] oh, we played friday night, not saturday [00:46] but apparently, all the bars had to close according to the old time, not the new [00:46] Ah, ok. [00:46] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-59-38.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] even a bar that closes at 2:30AM (the time change happens at 2AM, so logically they ought to be able to stay open until 2, then it becomes 1 again, and they should be open another 1.5 hours) [00:47] Axius (n=fd@92.84.11.120) joined ##slackware. [00:47] instead they'd have to close at 1:30AM according to the new time [00:47] They should fight that. [00:47] thats why daylight savings is stupid and pointless and should be banned and punishable by death [00:47] bah, wnhen I still lived in the netherlands .. bars would hold extra happy hour when the clock would go back. [00:47] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-60-183.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [00:47] fx_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) left irc: "User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" [00:47] Same..bars here are open the extra hour [00:48] here, they're not open the extra hour [00:48] lame [00:49] rworkman: I'm in the "bible belt", I suppose bar owners consider themselves lucky to be allowed to stay open past 11:59PM on saturday (after all, at midnight it becomes sunday...) [00:50] and the sabbath, unless you're jewish and sabbath is friday sundown to saturday sundown [00:50] I was just about to say that [00:50] or unless you're atheist/agnostic/apathetic [00:51] jewish sabbath makes the christian sabbath look like a little girl in a pink dress [00:51] yeah, they do that whole "no operating any machinery or electronics" thing, don't they? [00:51] well, its more complicated. [00:51] essentially, anything that would aid in building a temple. [00:52] remember someone telling me they had to have the lights on a timer at the synagogue, because they weren't allowed to manually flip the light switches one day out of the week [00:52] well, yes. [00:52] Which console music player is the best? [00:52] to me, that seems like cheating, but what do I know? (seriously, I know next to nothing about judaism) [00:53] Axius: that's a loaded question :) [00:53] Urchlay: ah, well i'm atheist, but i think learning about other religions is fun. [00:53] Axius: I use mplayer, but my needs are pretty simple [00:54] spook: yeah, I consider myself a "non-practicing atheist" (meaning I don't make a religion out of atheism like some do...) [00:54] plus i have a bunch of jewish friends who enjoy telling people about judaism [00:54] Axius: there's also mp3d and mp3c (server and client) [00:54] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Urchlay: yeah, Alabama is the same way :) [00:55] but AFAIK, those are only good for mp3s (mplayer will play anything you can hand it, including audio from your cd-rom drive) [00:55] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:55] Urchlay: thanks for the suggestions. [00:55] rworkman: you're in AL? Are you anywhere near Jacksonville? [00:55] Urchlay: Florida? [00:55] Urchlay: i dont think there is such thing as a practicing atheist. there are fanatical atheists which is synonomous to *jerk* atheist [00:55] no, the one in Alabama [00:56] Jacksonville AL is kinda close to Anniston [00:56] Urchlay: I wasn't even aware there *was* a Jacksonville in AL. Just asec [00:56] oh, hrm, probably about 2.5-3 hours [00:56] I'm in Tuscaloosa [00:56] hm. You're as far away from it as I am, then, and I'm more-or-less in Atlanta GA [00:56] Is that where you are? [00:57] ah [00:57] no, that's where I went to play a couple gigs [00:57] My wife has a cousin in ATL and we visit there pretty often; I'll ping you next time we go. We usually go out at least once while we're there [00:57] if you'd been close, I would have invited you to the show, when/if I ever play there again (doubtful at this point though) [00:57] i'm sorry if my atheism of beliefs offend anyone. [00:58] ah, cool [00:58] what's in Tuscaloosa? Troy State Univ? [00:58] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F4887.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:58] his tuscaloosa heart, duh. [00:59] Urchlay: haha, THE University of Alabama :) [00:59] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [00:59] (had a cousin who went there, all I remember now is vaguely thinking it's in Alabama somewhere) [00:59] ah [00:59] Troy Univ is down south of here - we go through there on the way to PCB [01:01] hm. I ought to head to panama city sometime, not been there since I was like 12 [01:02] It's nice :) [01:02] last time I went, was old enough to notice girls in bikinis, but not old enough to get their attention :( [01:03] awww :( [01:05] hehe [01:05] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] juice (i=1000@cpe-65-28-97-1.kc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:09] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [01:11] kiran_ (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [01:12] kiran_ (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:16] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [01:17] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-174-244.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[01:46] ezrafree: #freenode will help you [01:46] ezrafree: you mean a cloak? #freenode [01:47] yes sorry, cloak [01:47] thanks init[1] and fire|bird [01:47] ezrafree: compile a package from source, unless you have no other choice [01:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:47] fire|bird: hi, spook hi, [01:47] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:47] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:47] Action: init[1] pour water on fire|bird [01:47] spook: i usually do, but google chrome only offers you a .deb file [01:47] ezrafree: in which case use deb2tgz i think its called. [01:47] hows things going today? [01:47] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [01:47] ezrafree: ... two secs [01:47] init[1]: Now what in the world was that for? :P [01:47] fire|bird: coz you are fire|bird :P [01:48] Action: Naraku pees on fire|bird [01:48] lol [01:48] ezrafree: There's chromium tarballs, I know because I use them. :) [01:48] ezrafree: http://slackbuilds.org/pending/ google-chrome is in the pending list [01:48] there that should put him out [01:48] spook: ah, nice haha [01:48] Naraku: nope, that just *pissed* me off. :) [01:49] go slackbuilds.org, always saving the day :) [01:49] this pending page is new to me [01:49] ezrafree: fwiw, I use these, http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/ [01:49] fire|bird: thanks [01:49] ezrafree: you cant get stuff thats pending. just got to wait it out. :P [01:52] hmm not sure what i'm supposed to do with the files in chrome-linux.zip [01:52] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [01:53] ezrafree: It's a binary, extract it, then you can just run ./chrome from the chrome-linux directory. [01:53] fire|bird: is it possible to find chromium tarballs? [01:53] or, make a slackbuild to make a package and install it. [01:53] those snapshots are the only ones I know of. [01:53] or wait for the slackbuild to be released [01:54] yeah maybe i'll try the slackbuild out [01:54] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:55] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.7) joined ##slackware. [01:55] ezrafree: cant yet :P [01:58] all good things, in all good time [02:00] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:00] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [02:00] How to probe alsa to see if it works? [02:01] the music is playing and i can't hear anything! [02:02] did you plug in the speakers? check the volume? [02:02] isn't there also an "alsatest" command i think [02:02] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:03] the speaker are ok. [02:03] ezrafree: speakertest [02:04] speaker-test it appears, on my system [02:04] doh!, yeah, sorry. [02:04] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] but yeah, no "alsatest" command hehe [02:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [02:06] zaltekk (i=1000@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: [02:07] speaker-test it works but no sound! [02:07] how can i find the md5sum of a file? [02:08] with md5sum [02:08] erm, right. *smacks forehead* [02:08] answered his own question [02:08] lol [02:08] :) [02:08] i'm smart sometimes, i swear [02:09] atest work on someone system may'be [02:09] on mine i just get static [02:09] Axius: does your system run X? [02:10] yep [02:10] thats why huh [02:10] What to fuck have to do to have sound on Slack!! [02:10] no [02:10] Axius: i'm asking because perhaps there are some helpful tools in your window manager of choice, sorry if i'm upsetting you by trying to help [02:11] Axius: sound has always worked for me out of the box [02:11] with a full install of course [02:11] Axius: How old is your computer? [02:11] If it's less than 6mo old [02:11] no, you are not upsetting me!! [02:12] alsa might not have drivers, have you updated alsa? [02:12] That was my problem -- I needed to update alsa for my laptop [02:12] HP Pavilion dv5 [02:12] 2007 [02:14] I dont get it when ran alsaconf my sound card is recognize! [02:15] checked alsamixer? [02:15] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:15] Axius: yes, check alsa mixer and make sure none of them have "MM" on the bottom -- that means it's muted [02:16] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [02:16] alsamixer is ok. [02:17] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. 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[02:28] giros: now did you understand slackware ? policy is set by you not slackware [02:29] in your case packagekit is your policy [02:29] Can someone look at this link http://dpaste.com/115298/ [02:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:32] init[1]: very need good package manager or frontend for slackpkg with dependency.for normal skill user hate 100 command for install 100 packages form console [02:33] better exec frontend and click need boxes...slackman man with red eyes ) [02:34] installing 100 packages takes 1 command [02:34] giros: a feature for which i would hate slackware and its absense make me use it :) [02:35] i quit using arch and went back to slack because of the packaging system [02:35] Action: init[1] hands over ubuntu CD to giros [02:35] not to say arch or pacman isnt a nice system [02:35] i just prefer this. [02:35] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-220-37.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:35] giros: your dependency checker is ldd [02:35] :) [02:36] i would atleast prefer listing the dependency :) [02:36] not resloving it :P [02:36] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.176.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:36] i im not hacker or power user... this magic for me ) [02:37] migrate form vista [02:37] from* [02:37] Action: init[1] wow [02:37] install slack for me is hard(fdisk cfdisk). [02:37] giros: i would suggest you to spend time on slackware first then migrate to ubu[nut] [02:38] i would help you understand things better :) [02:38] it^ [02:38] use ubuntu 2 week [02:39] you liked it? [02:40] yes. [02:40] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:40] gnome [02:40] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [02:40] kde4 bad. i think [02:41] sorry for bad english.not native. 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[03:32] kde is part of slackware [03:32] fire|bird: its a monday morning, what do you think? :P [03:32] fire|bird: how about you? [03:33] haha, doing great, thanks. [03:33] I wanted to give bespin a whirl [03:34] It's really cool, I still haven't built the local version of it, but I have the account now to mess with it. [03:34] fire|bird: i didn't made the full install, so i would like to know how can i find the dependancies of an apps in slackware [03:34] ldd [03:39] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [03:40] fire|bird: where is the link to get the local version anyway? [03:41] heaumer (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:41] heaumer (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] fire|bird: nvm, found it [03:42] :) [03:42] Somewhere there's a list of deps too. [03:43] meh [03:43] that looks like work [03:43] I guess I keep playing with the online version for now [03:44] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:44] haha [03:44] work, on a Monday, no way. :P [03:44] sadly, yes [03:45] feels like monday... [03:45] y0 The-Croupier [03:47] Necrogami (n=djnecrog@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: "Why should I be just like you? You're just like everyone else..." [03:47] Im feeling depresed lately [03:47] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:47] its just not fun [03:48] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:49] hiya slackytude, why is that dude? [03:50] slackytude: if you were depressed and having fun with it..you would be an "emo" :p [03:50] meh, true [03:50] or a computer geek :p [03:50] no girl, no style, no money [03:50] slackytude: no offense [03:50] thats why [03:50] The-Croupier: hardly offending ^-^ [03:50] slackytude: what do you mean "no style" [03:50] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [03:50] tamingsari (n=tamingsa@211.234.119.5) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:51] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:51] The-Croupier: hrm, I guess it means Im a computer geek [03:51] The-Croupier: I dont do anything fun or cool anymore [03:51] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [03:51] I dunno [03:51] I need to change meself [03:52] which is pretty hard [03:52] slackytude is now known as slackytude|reinvented [03:52] :) [03:52] ^-^ [03:52] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [03:53] slackytude: define fun and cool ;) [03:53] fun: Of or pertaining to fun; causing pleasure or amusement. [03:54] fire|bird: i meant what is fun/cool for him ;) [03:54] going out, having fun. [03:55] The-Croupier: I know, just having, well, fun. :P [03:55] slackytude: then go out and have fun ;) [03:55] fire|bird: lol [03:55] fire|bird: right [03:55] meh [03:55] slackytude: where do you live? [03:55] maybe its just the usual monday morning blues [03:55] The-Croupier: Germany [03:55] but it feels like a depression coming. I dont want that again [03:56] might be just winter as well [03:56] slackytude: where do yo live? [03:56] The-Croupier: what fire|bird said [03:56] germany [03:56] you both in germany? any close to eachother? [03:56] get together go for a drink :p [03:56] lol, no [03:56] fire|bird: help your comrad [03:56] hahaha [03:56] I'm in the US, he's in Germany [03:57] fire|bird: oops :( [03:57] few germans in ##slackware [03:57] lol [03:57] seems like i have to do that again [03:57] hes closer to me ;) [03:57] Action: slackytude does smoke break [03:57] yeah [03:57] Invited me to greece ^-^ [03:57] The-Croupier: help your comrad. :) [03:58] yeah dude ... come around ...if you have any free time ;) np [03:59] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [03:59] slackytude: Get an RV and do some traveling. :) [04:01] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Well, time to get going. Later guys, take care. [04:02] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:05] whats an RV? [04:06] a camper van [04:06] Morning all [04:10] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.193.144) joined ##slackware. [04:10] excuse me but from which package does the oxygen icon set does part of ? (tried kdebase,kdeartwork) [04:11] grep -Ri oxygen /var/log/packages [04:11] or [04:11] grep -Ri oxygen /var/log/packages/kde* [04:11] Zordrak: does this command work if we don't make a Full install ? [04:12] giros (n=quassel@81.18.115.142) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:15] sidh: try [04:18] The-Croupier: as i expect, this command search in the installed packages, but it is a non sense when you would like to know the name of the package to install for having this icon set imo [04:18] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.197.206) joined ##slackware. [04:24] sidh: did you try google? [04:25] How would I go about starting Opera in Slackware 13 using cron? If I add something like "10 7 * * * opera" to my crontab, nothing happens. Adding "10 7 * * * touch testfile", the testfile is created, so the crontab is executed. [04:25] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.179.223) joined ##slackware. [04:25] hi there! [04:27] The-Croupier: i realized, this iconset is not in the slackware 13.0 dvd, i have to use slackpkg [04:27] The-Croupier: takes me time to learn, but i progress [04:27] Lalloso (i=8a843669@gateway/web/freenode/x-b677a876553dd830) joined ##slackware. [04:27] ThomasLocke: the DISPLAY variable isn't set. Try '10 7 * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 opera' [04:28] sidh: actually, kdebase-runtime seems to contain a ton of "oxygen" icons [04:28] sidh: which means it would be on the DVD [04:28] Urchlay, Of course! It seems reasonable that cron is unaware of anything X related. Thanks a bunch. :o) [04:28] I am getting a weird error when im running slackpkg "awk: /usr/libexec/slackpkg/pkglist.awk:13: (FILENAME=- FNR=904) fatal: NF set to negative value" [04:29] ThomasLocke: you might also need to redirect stdout/err to /dev/null [04:29] (no idea what, if anything, opera ever prints on its standard output or error) [04:30] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:30] and of course, you have to think about what'll happen if opera's already running & cron tries to start a new one (I don't run opera, I don't know, hopefully you do though...) [04:31] does anyone have any idea why i am getting the error posted above [04:33] lasse (n=Administ@82.118.204.131) joined ##slackware. [04:38] lasse (n=Administ@82.118.204.131) left irc: "leaving" [04:39] I know what the error means, I don't know why you get it though [04:39] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.46.93) joined ##slackware. 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[04:50] y0 Camarade_Tux [04:50] and add an & at the end: opera &>/dev/null & [04:50] whats up [04:50] (to background it, so cron doesn't sit around & wait for it) [04:50] Awesome! Thanks again. [04:52] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [04:59] daedra (n=daedra@75-128-41-61.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:59] Nick change: daedra -> Guest35372 [05:01] Nick change: Guest35372 -> daedra_ [05:02] Nick change: daedra_ -> Guest15620 [05:03] Nick change: Guest15620 -> daedra [05:03] d [05:03] Nick change: daedra -> Guest64569 [05:03] Guest64569 (n=daedra@75-128-41-61.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:07] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.173) joined ##slackware. [05:11] web_know1 (n=riba@189-18-92-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:13] Guest49656 (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:15] hi [05:15] how do i force cp not to ask for overwrite ? [05:16] hi [05:16] cp -fr does not work [05:16] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.46.93) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:17] cp will overwrite by default [05:17] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [05:19] maybe he has an alias to cp [05:19] Agiofws: "type cp"; also, do you mean it keeps asking? [05:20] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [05:20] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:20] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:20] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:20] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:21] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:25] it was aliased thankyou ppl [05:26] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.149.213) joined ##slackware. [05:26] Agiofws: ... are you using slackware? [05:26] nope [05:26] yeah.. thought not [05:27] but i ask basic stuff in here ... cause most ppl in here are experienced linux users [05:27] Zordrak: why is there anyone in here running slackware? [05:27] Action: The-Croupier hides [05:27] Agiofws: yeah.. but since other distros fuck around with the basic stuff making it pointless and unusable.. asking people who *think* you're talking about slackware is a waste of time and fucking annoying [05:27] The-Croupier: shouldn't that be "why? ...." [05:28] Agiofws: at least be clear WHAT you are asking about before you ask.. you will then eitherc get a valid response or be told where you can stick it [05:28] either way will be more productive than this [05:28] alisonken1noc: ?! [05:29] y0 Zordrak, alisonken1noc [05:29] hows it going [05:29] The-Croupier: because without the q. mark after the "why" it sounds like you're asking if there are anyone here using slackware :) [05:30] slackytude: yo yo [05:30] or rather - y0 y0 [05:34] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [05:35] shiva_ (n=shiva@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:35] fmeh [05:36] what do you people say about upstart? [05:36] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:38] I see [05:41] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:47] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.38) joined ##slackware. [05:49] man, todays xkcd is mad [05:49] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-59-100-88-105.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:50] :) [05:51] that looks like it took some hours todo [05:51] and annoyingly i have only seen/care to see one of the referenced movies [05:52] star wars? [05:52] if only i could read those tiny inscriptions on the graphs... [05:52] click :) [05:52] you know, hypertext links :) [05:52] oh, really O_o [05:52] ^^ [05:53] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-32-102.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:53] the star wars one looks wrong tho [05:53] I fail to see where Leia is Jabbas slave girl [05:54] how could one possibly forget this vital scene? [05:55] packeteer (n=zed@ppp121-44-203-165.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:55] slackytude: for a short moment she is forced to be [05:56] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.213) joined ##slackware. [05:56] shepherd (n=shepherd@unaffiliated/shepherd) joined ##slackware. [05:56] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:56] http://media.photobucket.com/image/jabba%20leia/danso16/Leia%20Caps/Pdvd_009.jpg [05:56] yeah, but Jabba and Leia dont cross at all [05:56] could anyone post the link again? [05:56] signed on a tad too late and missed it [05:57] link to what, [05:57] ? [05:57] http://xkcd.com/657/ [05:57] unrelated, I'm buying an AMD AM3 CPU with DDR2, is there any advantage in taking an AM3 motherboard rather than an AM2+/AM3 one? [05:57] Camarade_Tux: can't see the chain to the neck very well in that one [05:58] I don't know if "slave" is the right word but there was definitely something along these lines [05:58] Camarade_Tux: nice link ^-^ [05:59] sure, slave is right [05:59] Its not like she went to Jabba to get a vaccation [06:00] unless she's secretly into bondage [06:00] and it's no longer a secret [06:00] \o/ [06:00] Action: Camarade_Tux googles leia+bdsm \o/ [06:01] slackytude: hell no.. why would i want to watch that crap? [06:01] slackytude: almost as bad as bladerunner ffs [06:01] probably because she was sent to some upper class and strict school for princesses or sumthing [06:01] Action: slackytude slaps Zordrak [06:02] jurassic park is the one ive seen [06:02] bah [06:02] impulse- (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [06:03] impulse_ (n=impy@88.147.64.235) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:06] what is the most primitive picture viewer for X, that can be lauched fullscreen? [06:06] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-126-188.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:06] qiv? [06:07] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.213) left irc: "Leaving" [06:07] or is it liv? [06:07] anyway, it's gtk1 [06:07] there's also one in imagemagick [06:07] but I've forgotten its name [06:07] and the last one, cat :D [06:07] i just need it to pop fullscreen and cover the screen with an image. [06:07] cat? [06:08] not a good idea :D [06:10] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:10] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.10) joined ##slackware. [06:11] #lisp [06:11] although i will be restarting X after that, so cut might be a good one after all :-D just need to figure out the output file :D [06:12] you'd need to cat to /dev/fb* but you also need an image tailored for your display [06:12] might as well not use X maybe :P [06:12] yeah [06:12] or xwd [06:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:17] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:22] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [06:22] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:22] going to build and try qiv [06:23] slava_dp: y0 [06:23] did my upgrade from 12.1 to 13 [06:23] hey slackytude :) [06:24] how did it go? [06:24] flawless [06:25] qiv needs to be run with XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 in the environment, on slack 13 [06:25] works better than the fresh install on this dell [06:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.16.14) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:25] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:25] patch it so it does a putenv("XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1") in main() and it'll be fine [06:25] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:26] Urchlay, thanks for the hint :-) i'm doing it on 12.2 though. this thingy should be on sbo. [06:26] Action: slackytude browses through the princess leia pictures [06:26] actually I dunno why I never submitted my slackbuild for it [06:26] Urchlay, then do it! :) [06:27] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.38) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:27] bah, I can't decide, should I go for an AM2+/AM3 or AM3 mobo, should I go for an integrated graphic card or should I add one when I need one (have a few old ones)? [06:27] you never know when someone will need exactly this piece of software.... [06:27] slackytude: send me some ;-) [06:27] Camarade_Tux: meh, its your link [06:27] slackytude: have to look at alternate sites for what you want :) [06:28] phrag (n=phrag@217.10.145.3) joined ##slackware. [06:28] oh, looking at it now, I remember why: the slackbuild script is totally non-SBo-compliant [06:28] slackytude: ;-) [06:28] Camarade_Tux: I know nothing of which you speak [06:28] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-26-30.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:28] will have to rewrite it so it looks like their template I suppose (mine does e.g. "cat <$PKG/install/slack-desc" and contains the slack-desc inline) [06:29] slackytude: cpu sockets [06:29] I'm trying to chose a motherboard [06:29] oh, right [06:29] I was still thinking about Leia [06:30] just get the cheapest and complain about it [06:30] thats what I do [06:30] great fun [06:30] he [06:30] basically the same price [06:30] within a 20¬ range [06:32] so, whats the problem? [06:34] no integrated graphics means less power consumption (it's for a "server") and less heat [06:34] but is it worth? will it be really lower, [06:34] sounds good [06:34] ? [06:35] hrm [06:35] Id guess so [06:35] bah, I'm going for a 4200 integrated, it has GPGPU capabilities and I'd like to play with that [06:35] plus I'm reading it scales down a ot when idle [06:35] *lot [06:36] btw, all my typing errors are caused by lag (connecting through screen+ssh) [06:36] sure [06:36] Camarade_Tux, slackytude ioo [06:37] y0 fredoslack [06:37] Action: Camarade_Tux pats fredoslack [06:37] you have got [06:37] the smack of my mouses =) [06:37] the kizz * [06:37] kiss * oops [06:37] Urchlay, could you paste your build script somewhere? i'm having a hard time since this apparently does not support DESTDIR. [06:39] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:40] slava_dp: one sec, I'm about 99% done SBo-izing it. Let me make sure it actually builds... [06:41] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:42] slava_dp: bleah, never mind, here's the old non-SBo version: http://dpaste.com/115344/ [06:42] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [06:43] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:43] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Excess Flood [06:43] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:45] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Excess Flood [06:46] ugh. And the version I actually want to package use (2.1_pre10) is no longer available on the download site [06:46] :) [06:46] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:46] 2.1_pre11 and up, they don't recurse directories given on the command line [06:47] :) [06:47] e.g. "qiv images/" would display all images in images/*, but not images/kittens/* or images/puppies/* [06:48] kittens \o/ [06:49] qiv > gwenview? [06:49] I've never even heard of gwenview, so who knows [06:49] find images/ -type d -exec qiv '{]' + [06:49] there you go, it recurses :) [06:49] Action: Camarade_Tux uses gpicview, simple [06:50] slava_dp: yes, I know how to do that, but it's annoying (plus it's prone to typos, as you've just shown is :) [06:50] yeah [06:50] hmm.. seems like a combo of gwenview&IM [06:52] anyway I only still use qiv because it's what I used 10+ years ago, probably there are better image viewers these days, I can't be bothered to find out though [06:53] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:53] viewing images is one of those things I consider a solved problem, no point spending brain cycles on it [06:54] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:54] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:54] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [06:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [06:57] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.179.223) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:58] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:59] Urchlay: did you try gqview? [07:00] its quite nice.. [07:01] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.10) left irc: "used jmIrc" [07:03] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:04] The-Croupier, heh, thanks, you implicitly solved my problem. gqview supports -f, that's what i need for this task. [07:04] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [07:04] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-55-221.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:04] slava_dp: ;) np [07:05] what's -f do in gqview? [07:06] run fullscreen [07:07] i like the part that you can see all the pictures in the folder eft of the screen [07:08] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.218.13) joined ##slackware. [07:12] _marc` (n=marc@i59F7CC70.versanet.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:13] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.218.13) left irc: Client Quit [07:13] _marc` (n=marc@i59F7F905.versanet.de) joined ##slackware. [07:14] giuppy (n=giuppy@host90-251-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [07:19] Emeau (n=Emeau@92.128.97.187) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:23] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:23] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:23] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [07:24] french offices switches to thunderbird [07:24] french tax autorithies [07:24] http://www.h-online.com/news/item/French-Tax-authorities-switching-to-Thunderbird-846254.html [07:24] 130000 users [07:25] from outlook or what? [07:25] yes [07:25] well good for them [07:26] a license for MS stuff is what? at least 1¬ per seat? [07:26] and for the others...;) [07:26] and more like 10¬ per seat? [07:26] they switch from lotus notes and outlook [07:26] looks like there were two offices [07:26] DeadFishMan (n=rogerio@201-43-91-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:26] yes [07:28] well, I dont think TB is the best piece of software ever but it surely is an upgrade to lotus notes and outlook [07:28] *from :) [07:28] or *compared to [07:28] Camarade_Tux: are you female? [07:29] The-Croupier: yes, want to see nakid pics? :) [07:29] and why you're asking? [07:29] Camarade_Tux: cos i dont want to see any pics :P [07:30] he :P [07:30] and cos you just corrected people, in an international channel on their english ;) girls usually do that :p [07:30] lol ^^ [07:31] nah, it was because slackytude's sentence was probably saying exactly the opposite of what he had in mind [07:31] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-60-183.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Leaving" [07:31] and I expect people to correct my english too [07:31] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-60-183.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [07:31] and finally, I'M NOT FEMALE! :) [07:32] Camarade_Tux: damn.... so what nacid pics would you show me then :p [07:32] ewwwwww [07:33] :) [07:33] it would have been pics of slackytude :) [07:33] lol [07:33] huh? [07:33] dont scare the kids, halooween is over [07:33] halloween even [07:34] hahaha :P [07:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.49.27) joined ##slackware. [07:36] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@114-45-233-227.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [07:38] besides, you promised not to show my nekkid pics, you swine! [07:41] slackytude: im sure he wouldnt .... ;) he was just teasing me... besides... there wouldnt be anything i havent seen before :p [07:41] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-174-244.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:42] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:43] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:43] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:44] aiiiiiii (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:44] Nick change: caio -> Guest89518 [07:44] aiiiiiii (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) joined ##slackware. [07:45] crudo|home1 (n=0xdead@187.78.193.144) joined ##slackware. [07:46] slackytude: I haven't yet ;-) [07:46] hi Camarde_Tux how are you ? I'm fine thank you. [07:46] crudo|home1 (n=0xdead@187.78.193.144) left ##slackware. [07:47] Action: The-Croupier loves monologues in slackware..... awsomeness!!!! [07:47] meh [07:48] hows the weather for you chaps? [07:48] Action: The-Croupier is intrigued to see what Camarade_Tux is going to reply to that.... [07:48] its dark and rainy here [07:48] the weather is fine but the flu is coming to us. [07:48] dark and rainy in southern norway as well.. [07:49] infoman (n=ALL@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [07:49] slava_dp: coming to you? isnt it already over [07:49] everyone's fcking scared [07:49] it just barely started in ukraine. [07:50] v3gard: sucks [07:50] Intel[R]VT-x: he [07:50] slackytude: very cloudy [07:50] slava_dp: dont't worry! poland is sending you some medicine and masks! [07:50] was raining on yesterday [07:50] it least its not snowing (yet) [07:50] slackytude: I think it went to you actually ;-) [07:51] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:51] winter, oh, really? they do? well, that's nice of them. as we really lack masks and basic anti-flu stuff now. [07:51] good. [07:51] oh yeah, we have that swineflu hysteria here as well :p [07:52] Camarade_Tux: thx [07:52] v3gard: but you haven't got 190000 of infected [07:52] i tried to get some anti-flu nasal ointment just yesterday, couldn't find it in 5 drug stores! [07:52] slackytude: anytime :) [07:52] didnt the swine flu basically pass through America and Europe without much happening? [07:52] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:53] thought it was long over [07:53] america? not really, state of emergency there [07:53] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:53] eh, since when? [07:53] i have no informetion abouyt any single infections in .pl [07:53] slackytude: a week ago [07:54] biggest problem here is fake diagnosis [07:54] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:54] its flu-season anyway.. so anyone who has flu is being diagnosed with swine-flu [07:54] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:54] Camarade_Tux: nation wide? [07:54] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] Zordrak, did you get false-diagnosed? [07:54] think so [07:54] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:55] I can't remeber when the US last had a national state of emergency. Even Katrina was just a few staates, iirc [07:55] slava_dp: no, but my missus did.. she didn't even *have* flu but the Emergency Swine Flu Helpline said she did and allowed her to buy anti-virals [07:56] slackytude: http://www.google.org/flutrends/intl/en_us/us/ [07:56] it's an *ESTIMATE* [07:56] it's based on the volume of search queries... [07:58] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:58] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:58] google flu trends outperformed the CDC hospital-data-based forecasting in 2008 [07:58] they have a lot more data [07:58] these must be terrible [07:58] :D [07:58] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [07:58] Camarade_Tux: know that one [07:59] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:59] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:00] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [08:00] yeah more data but it's still impressive that things ike googling "congestion fever flu" beats a network of hospitals reporting to the centers for disease control [08:01] http://zik.com.ua/en/news/2009/10/29/202374 [08:02] fs___ (n=fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [08:02] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.193.144) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:03] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [08:04] slackytude: hmmm, cute :) [08:05] cute? [08:05] looking at my pictures again? [08:05] slackytude: hes is probably refering to the girl again :( [08:05] Hello :) I've just done a reinstall to slackware 13 and was hoping for a little advice. I normally just muddle through things and end up breaking things beyond my knowledge of how to repair them and reinstall, figured I'd do it a little differently this time. Anyhow, I'm looking to install imlib2. What i'm wondering is what is the best way to go about doing this? I can figure out compiling and installing etc, but i notice imlib-1.9.15 i [08:05] slackytude: no, the pictures on the page you linked to ;-) [08:05] Camarade_Tux: ah right [08:06] Camarade_Tux: better without the mask, tho [08:06] fs___: imllib and imlib2 aren't the same libraries [08:06] slackytude: yeah ;-) [08:06] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/imlib2/ [08:06] http://sbopkg.org [08:06] crap, too late ='( [08:06] Camarade_Tux: mind blown. thanks =) [08:08] Zordrak, sbopkg is going to save me tons of time. thanks to both of you [08:08] i though that there is a slight difference between flu and swine flu [08:08] fs___: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/09/28/slackware-package-management-guide/ [08:08] but what the hell [08:09] Action: winter cheers [08:09] winter: swine flu is just a strain of flu [08:09] swine flu == flu [08:09] flu != swine flue [08:09] *flu [08:09] sure, but tests usually dont lie [08:09] what tests? [08:09] flu tests [08:09] tests dont... doctors do ;) [08:09] no-one actually does tests.. they just go on symptoms [08:09] is like the guns slogan...;) [08:09] unless it gets serious [08:09] doctors, politics, common people [08:10] Action: winter takes a sip! [08:10] it should be serious by now..its been a number of deaths around the world...and the number is bloody big as well [08:10] Axius (n=fd@92.85.30.219) joined ##slackware. [08:10] indeed [08:11] I know several people who had flu but not swine flu and I know several who had swine flu [08:11] What I mean is that unless the symptoms get serious.. you can't send off lab tests for every whining little hypochondriac that turns up in your office [08:11] guess what is happening here? :D [08:12] Like IT Support you have to have a helpdesk that tells idiots to go and check their shit a second time [08:12] i remember walking on a tram station in brussels and seeing a man who was sneezing everywhere and not giving a shit about it [08:12] instead of investigating the mail logs every time someone complains they didnt get an e-mail [08:12] it made me pee with blood [08:14] fs___ (n=fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: "leaving" [08:14] he wasn't even hiding his mount [08:14] mouth* [08:14] like during the swine flu season [08:15] in belgium. [08:15] how long ago was it? [08:16] august [08:17] wasn't the flu season :P [08:18] like swine flu advertisemets everywhere [08:19] you know somoeonr could be traveling from a place with the flu season on [08:20] that's how it spreads [08:20] there is no winter in mexico. [08:20] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:20] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A450.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:20] the authorities report 255000 flu-sick in ukraine as of today. damn, that's way too much already. [08:20] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-63-84-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] yeah. [08:21] winter, you from poland? [08:21] indeed :) [08:21] swine flu is mostly over in mexico afaik [08:21] maybe but it comes from there [08:21] officially. [08:25] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-159-106.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:25] The swine flu is nothing comper to other diseases. [08:25] Axius, orly? [08:25] yeah, just a very dangerous, seasonal mutation of the flu virus. [08:26] Action: Zordrak calls time on the swine flu discussion [08:26] and.. it's not a disease [08:27] What is it then? [08:27] vorgive them einstein Ú,Ú [08:27] ok it is.. but i shouldnt be grouped for discussion [08:27] forgive* [08:27] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:27] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [08:28] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] ##slackofftopic maybe? [08:31] adrien_ (i=51fcb5a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-c3b1674553f16029) joined ##slackware. [08:31] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD88472.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:32] hi all, i have to configure a wifi connection over slackware.. how should i proceed ? [08:32] installpkg extra/wicd [08:32] adrien: ^^^^^ [08:33] ok :) [08:33] which version of slackware? [08:33] 13.0 x86 [08:34] first time i use slack on a laptop [08:34] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] just make sure you're user is in the netdev group [08:34] your [08:34] DeadFishMan (n=rogerio@201-43-91-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:34] it's worth noting that the spanish flu started pretty harmless as well [08:35] adrien_, http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/extra/wicd/wicd-1.6.2.2-i486-1.txz [08:35] but it ended as the second worst pandemic ever [08:35] after black plague [08:35] oh wait, flu talk is long over [08:35] is this package on the DVD ? [08:35] it's also worth noting ##slackofftopic :) [08:35] I curse thee scrolled-up conversation window [08:35] adrien: in extra/ [08:36] ok im trying [08:36] "You Put Chocolate In My Peanut Butter", how come I knew it was from NOFX? :P [08:36] Nick change: slackytu1e -> slackytude [08:36] thrice`: oughtnt you point him at 1.6.2.1 for 13.0{ [08:36] adrien_, it is, but that version I linked to fixes a bug [08:36] orite [08:36] Zordrak, well, 1.6.2.2 fixes a bug, and the one for -current is safe enough for 13.0, since it's just python [08:36] wasnt sure about compat since a number of current updates [08:36] kk [08:37] ok im taking yours [08:37] 1.6.2.1 works with mine, but I only use it occasionally anyway [08:37] adrien_: fyi.. thats in the current slackware development tree.. not a 3rd party customisation [08:38] 1.6.2.1 had a bug with hidden networks or something [08:38] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/extra/wicd/wicd-1.6.2.2=i486-1.txz [08:39] ok - replace the equals with a dash [08:39] decent mirror [08:39] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Success [08:39] or, use the link I said 5 minutes ago ;) [08:40] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:40] that too - but I think tds.net has a fatter pipe [08:40] wicd installed, i need python now [08:40] :) [08:41] lol [08:41] oh jeez [08:41] adrien_, you're not on a full install, are you? [08:41] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) joined ##slackware. [08:41] adrien_, slackware comes with python o_o [08:41] unless for some odd reason you didn't install it [08:41] i have choosen ful install [08:41] hmm $300 million USD for one fibreoptic cable.. and what happens if it gets cut? [08:42] adrien_, then you're all set :) [08:42] $150/hr repair - 1/2day minimum [08:42] Zordrak: its kaput! [08:42] no developpemnt program [08:42] python is in ? [08:42] Zordrak: you fix it.. [08:42] d/ [08:42] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-121.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] yeah [08:42] should be - part of a full install [08:42] "which python" [08:42] Zordrak: You can't honestly believe all fibre runs are exactly one cable..do you? [08:42] gapan (n=gapan@adsl36-105.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:43] christian (n=christia@kobz-590f9dd5.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] ok python installed [08:44] adrien_, as root: /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start [08:45] and launch wicd-client as user [08:45] ok [08:45] you will have to reload the messagebus rules too [08:46] my access point is listed [08:46] excellent :) [08:46] config ? [08:46] you have the wicd screen open? [08:47] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-60-183.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:47] yes [08:47] i have wpa-tkip protection [08:47] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-60-160.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [08:48] ok right arrow :) [08:48] well, click the button and type in your password, and hit connect :) [08:48] iirc tkip is vulnerable. switch to ccmp/aes. [08:48] fjji (n=ojof@92.82.88.28) joined ##slackware. [08:48] it works [08:50] fjji (n=ojof@92.82.88.28) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:50] Axius (n=fd@92.85.30.219) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:50] wicd, the package that i need [08:50] cbpye (n=cbpye@71.229.54.69) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:51] thanks for all guys [08:51] ok slava_dp i will change encryption method :) thanks [08:52] adrien_, sure; it's really the easiest way to do wireless [08:52] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.88.28) joined ##slackware. [08:53] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:53] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:54] ok ill remember :) [08:54] see ya everybody and thank you [08:54] slava_dp: how many encryptions can one change in wireless configuration [08:55] The-Croupier, what do you mean? [08:55] VampX (n=orlandol@190.33.43.74) left irc: [08:56] another question befor i begin: is wine and cabextract 1.2 works on this slackware rlz . [08:56] ? [08:57] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [08:57] wine works [08:57] cabextract might [08:57] never tried [08:57] what in ~/.vimrc should i edit so vim does not insert normal tabulator, i want e.g 4 spaces [08:57] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-029.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [08:57] i have to install ie4linux for website compatibility [08:58] Action: slava_dp did ies4linux, it's such an ugly hack [08:58] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [08:59] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:59] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [08:59] i have a web site at work thait is only works on ie browser. is there another alternative as ie4linux [09:00] activex must die [09:01] i mean...well wireless got tkip and you said change to ccmp/aes ;) what does ccmp use ? [09:01] fonseg (n=fonseg@113.22.110.224) joined ##slackware. [09:02] i thought that both of them would use the same means/protocol lets say [09:02] so if it was to be hacked...it wouldnt really matter now would it ;) [09:02] is there a text file i can edit to make my machine use localtime other than UTC without running pkgtool? [09:03] there is no activex, but the page does not well displayed [09:03] The-Croupier, google tkip vulnerable. i don't have the time now. [09:03] ;) [09:03] fonseg, timeconfig [09:03] slava_dp: i dont mind..just making conversation... i know a little how it works ...and i dont need to change to anything... [09:03] im happy to log in anyone around in my wireless. ;) [09:04] hahaha [09:04] they do not dare though..since my essid is "FormatC" [09:04] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-121.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:04] :D [09:04] i guess most of them are windows user around my house :( [09:04] slava_dp: i mean, not running a script, just a config file. is there any text file storing that info? [09:04] and the password is 1234 :( [09:04] lol [09:05] make a second essid titled mkfs /dev/hda1 :-) [09:05] slava_dp: i was thinking more of "rm -rf" [09:05] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.88.28) left irc: "Leaving" [09:05] scare some ubuntu users off ;) [09:06] fonseg, less $(which timeconfig), read it and see what files it edits. [09:06] The-Croupier: if they understand it [09:07] most GUI users know nothing about CLI commands. just like everyone in my house [09:08] now talking about routers and such... i heard there is a way to remotely start up a computer ;) [09:08] and when their ubuntu breaks.... there is the only way to fix things.... reinstall it [09:08] WoL [09:08] shutdown is easy... start up from nothing?!! what is the terminology for that??? i dont want to end up reading lots of irrelevant google sites...;) [09:08] The-Croupier: WoL [09:09] straterra: ok, sorry i didnt get it the first time ;) [09:09] MuJ (i=muttilai@so.stnd.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Action: The-Croupier goes to read ;) thanks straterra [09:10] slava_dp: ok, it's in /etc/hardwareclock, thx [09:10] fonseg, yw [09:11] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:12] straterra: thanks...;) i just read that my laptop supports even wireless wake up ;) nice ;) when i get home ill have to mess with the motherboard of the quadPc ;) [09:12] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:12] fonseg (n=fonseg@113.22.110.224) left irc: "leaving" [09:12] many do that these days [09:13] Axius (n=fd@92.85.208.66) joined ##slackware. [09:13] what's the use of wol? [09:15] wake on lan [09:15] will start pc if magic bytes get send to lan card [09:15] or wlan card [09:16] did i ask how it works? i asked about it's use :) [09:16] lots of things [09:17] is there an "accepted" way of adding a client ID string to /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 for dhcp? I'm doing it right now by editing /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and adding the needed variable, but then I also need to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 directly: and that seems a little "off" to me. [09:17] some routers can send WOL packets. so you can access a machine from the outside and the router will wake it up for you [09:17] if you have services you dont need that often [09:17] slackytude, that makes sense [09:18] or have all machines wake up at 8am [09:18] instead of setting it per-machine, you can have a single machine that sends WOL packekts to all others [09:18] slava_dp: or go on holidays and make a backup during weekend in your company.. while your boss told you to be there on the weekend ;) [09:19] yeah, its great if you have remote access to the office but your machine is down [09:20] slackytude: not if you log in the (aparently off the radar) vpn, and to the server (aparently off the network) and to your machine ( theoretically shutdown-but not really) and wake up everyone... and back it up to the server space ;) [09:20] Nick change: cyborg-o1e -> cyb0rg-one [09:21] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] The-Croupier: haha [09:21] dangerseeker_ (n=dangerse@p57A8CEC2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [09:23] as i said shutdown is easy ;) [09:24] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8F38E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:25] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-63-84-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:25] i understand why my boss doesnt want me to use slackware at work...:( [09:25] why [09:25] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:26] I'm curous as well [09:26] i would mess around with every single configuration that stupid windows admin has done so far... [09:26] hah [09:26] giuppy (n=giuppy@host179-166-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:26] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:26] show him all the stupid stuff he has done so far..and maybe invent jobs for the next 10years ;) [09:27] we've got two slack machines now [09:27] get him to purchase at least 50 new machines [09:27] slackytude: my boss doesnt even let me use my (personal) laptop ;) [09:27] reason, its got slackware on it... [09:27] screw him [09:27] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-204.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:27] crypto facism [09:27] fascism [09:28] slackytude: there was a funny statement he made the other day..i tried again to make him change his mind...;) [09:28] oh [09:28] gotta go [09:28] see ya [09:29] he said, if you use ubuntu i have np with you using linux ....( the windows admin knows somethings about ubuntu aparently...and told him he can monitor me if i run ubuntu) [09:29] The-Croupier, what is you job there? [09:30] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [09:31] technician, researcher, ...etc ;) networking, security, unit testing, website testing, [09:31] teaching in english [09:31] Nick change: repsol_ -> adrenaline [09:31] teaching computers in english ;) [09:32] (for university research and dissertations) [09:32] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:32] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [09:32] technical support inside the company..... [09:32] there are alot more... but i think slackboy will throw me out [09:33] slava_dp: dont ask how much i get paid :( or ill kill you [09:33] it's just very strange that the boss [09:33] monstro (i=1000@201-92-43-52.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:33] has got his mind against slackware [09:33] ill use the WoL knowledge i just gained [09:33] Where I find Squid pre-compiled to download ? [09:33] slava_dp: it is partly my fault :( [09:33] monstro, http://sbopkg.org [09:35] slava_dp, why the squid no exist in branch packages of slackware ? [09:36] monstro, because pat does not want to support it. build it yourself, it's not at all hard using sbopkg. [09:37] monstro, slackware cannot inlude every program in the universe. [09:37] slava_dp, thanks [09:37] monstro, yw [09:38] slava_dp: i studied network engineering and administration at uni of northumbria newcastle England. ;) i did that cos i love the course..and the whole idea..of security and such... [09:39] being in a fscked up network, as technical support (even if as assistant sometimes) makes me feel bad...i know how to fix them..they are so stuck up on windows ( i have no problem using windows, but not unconfigured... full setup, hardly updated...etc stupid stuff) [09:39] makes me feel so bad sometimes...:( [09:41] Slackware 13 uses jpeg 7? [09:41] no [09:41] okay thanks [09:42] Should I switch to jpeg 7 or is there a way to get alien arena to use 6? [09:42] np [09:43] Chakravanti: well, an update to libjpeg v7 will break a lot of proprietary apps [09:43] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-159-106.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [09:43] and iirc you need to recompile everything that links to libjpeg v6 [09:43] yep [09:44] I find it very strange that an app would explicitely depend on libjpeg 7, actually [09:44] especially an open source one [09:44] maybe the devs use fedora, and maybe fedora did the switch..... :) [09:46] cyb0rg-o1e (i=1000@nas-10-181.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:46] why isn't it backwards compat, are they braindead? [09:47] soname bump iirc [09:47] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:47] it's all MS's intrigues [09:47] they will break all our libs, one by one [09:48] and then all our base will belong to them [09:48] Nick change: cyb0rg-o1e -> cyb0rg-0ne [09:48] they have to finish breaking their own first though [09:49] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [09:49] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:49] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.181.72) joined ##slackware. [09:49] hi there! [09:50] Action: Camarade_Tux hides [09:51] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-63-84-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] cyb0rg-one (i=1000@nas-12-029.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:51] apparently win7 has a bug, it's not one of those simple ones like total fs corruption, or a bsod on an smb network. it seems some win7's go into an endless reboot cycle. redmond has no answer as last night [09:52] mancha: if you do an upgrade install [09:52] *as of last night [09:52] It's an issue with old chipset drivers [09:52] mancha: is there a url? [09:52] The OS is actually bluescreening because of the drives..and automatically reboots [09:52] ah ok, so theyve found the culprit, which means a patch should be forthcoming? [09:53] I don't know. You'd have to call Microsoft. [09:53] I'm not sure how they'd 'patch' the installer [09:53] Your best bet is to do a clean install [09:54] mancha: where did you read about that? is there any url on that? [09:54] hrmm, interesting. i am just watching this from the sidelines actually..i don't actually run win7 [09:54] straterra is a microsoft insider, first hand info ;-) [09:54] Pampeano (i=Tales@187.39.49.166) joined ##slackware. [09:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [09:55] The-Croup, i have a link somewhere but not handy...just did a quick check and not where i thought it was [09:55] cyb0rg-01e (i=1000@nas-12-129.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A450.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:01] cyb0rg-0ne (i=1000@nas-10-181.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:02] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:02] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:06] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[11:11] i was told i could modprobe it while just using vga, but that doesn't do anything...i also tried using append="video=nvidiafb" in lilo.conf, but that had no effect either [11:12] zaltekk: you must change the xorg.conf [11:12] try identifier="nvidiafb" [11:13] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-163.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] I mean inside the xorg.conf [11:13] um, the kernel will know nothing of xorg.conf [11:14] there is no nvidiafb kernel boot parameter as I know [11:14] I just googled it [11:14] how do you expect the kernel to pick up a text file, before the root partition is mounted ? [11:14] Intel[R]VT-x: nvidiafb doesn't have anything to do with xorg... [11:15] zaltekk, you have nvidiafb installed as a module, or statically? [11:16] thrice`: i am using the stock slackware64 13.0 generic-huge kernel...not actually sure. [11:16] using "modprobe nvidiafb && lsmod | grep nvidiafb" shows it as loaded [11:16] try "zgrep -i nvidiafb /proc/config.gz" [11:17] so the problem is you need to force kernel to use that mode ? [11:17] but i don't know how to set a resolution, or how to do it at boot time....i'm really lost since i can't find much of anything about doing this on google [11:17] well, do you have a reason for wanting nvidiafb over vesa ? [11:18] thrice`: that didn't generate any output [11:18] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [11:18] thrice`: yes. i want to use my native LCD resolution of 1920x1200, and using the vesafb makes text scroll very slowly [11:18] then my suggestion is uncomment that module on the kernel config and recompile the kernel may be that will work. [11:18] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] i was hoping i could somewhat take advantage of my monster video card and have a fast framebuffer console [11:19] there is a vga size parameater at the boot time [11:19] but I don't think you can give the specific driver at the boot time. [11:19] means to force kernel to use some driver accleration [11:19] but screen size can be changed [11:20] it's interesting to see Intel[R]VT-x trying to give out advice when he has no idea what he's doing. [11:20] ok, maybe i'm not up to speed on framebuffers. I didn't know one was fast or slow :) [11:21] thrice`: it works okay at a resolution such as 800x600. but even if i pass some options that are suppose to speed up vesafb, doing something like "cat /var/log/messages" will take almost 15 seconds to scroll by [11:21] rather than happening nearly instantly like it would with just VGA or in an xterm [11:22] aah, ok [11:22] it really annoys me :( [11:22] thrice`: so since "zgrep -i nvidiafb /proc/config.gz" didn't output anything...that means what? [11:23] i am under the impression that nvidiafb is in the kernel, but that I am not loadining it properly. [11:23] isonow (n=isonow@205.Red-88-26-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] i'm not sure if i need to pass a parameter to the kernel, or use vga=SOMETHING in lilo.conf, or what [11:24] can anyone tell me how can i uncompress an iso? i do not want to mount it, i just need to uncompressed the iso image, edit some text files and then put the iso back together [11:25] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-163.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:25] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:25] why do you not want to mount it? [11:25] isonow: you can use the mkisofs tool [11:26] that is how I change the things inside the slax live CD [11:26] dude, you are clueless [11:26] do you need that exe file ? [11:26] :) I can happily give it to you. [11:27] well, i'm going to try a couple more things...bbl [11:27] zaltekk (i=1000@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: "reboot" [11:27] zaltekk: that's a shortcoming of te framebuffer, and afaik mentioned in the kernel docs [11:27] damn [11:28] Intel[R]VT-x, please continue talking about your l33t exploits, in hopes of you being banned [11:28] ernie__ (n=ernie@212.183.134.210) joined ##slackware. [11:29] isonow, I believe a nice trick is to mount the iso as a cdrom FS ( -o loop -t iso9660), copy its contents to a writeable DIR, and remaster the iso [11:30] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5457c96e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:30] thrice`: what is the problem with you ? I just tried only to help not to hijack the question , and I know that mkisofs will help to some extent anyway I don't need to banned and what I need is to be a kernel programmer. [11:31] you're right, that's the best path [11:31] Action: theblackbox abandons ship! [11:31] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:31] Intel[R]VT-x, unless you have a clue, it's not a good thing to advise people uselessly [11:32] and also thirce` here gives a good idea too , that means he suggest you to mount that as a loopback device , that way you can do that thing easily. But if you are inside windows ( under win32 ) use that win32 executable mkisofs.exe file ? I'm happy to give it to you :) [11:32] theblackbox: boring. Mutany! [11:32] eg, making someone waste time editing a xorg.conf file to change their framebuffer [11:32] Har HAR!!! [11:32] arrrrrr [11:35] need that binary file mkisofs.exe ? :) :) [11:35] please [11:35] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.173) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:36] Action: theblackbox is reminded of a friend who just doesn't realise when you and your missus are wanting some "alone time".... [11:36] Woohoo mutany. [11:36] 11:36 DCC SEND from Intel[R]VT-x [124.43.59.21 port 2510]: mkisofs.exe [226kB] [11:36] ha ha ha [11:37] grazymax (n=grazymax@host170-48-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:37] Action: theblackbox is reminded of a friend who just doesn't realise he most definitely ISN'T watching [11:37] that is a good binary file ? what is the wrong with that ? [11:37] I was trying to be sarcastic Intel[R]VT-x, why on earth would I want mkisofs.exe ? [11:38] apart that nobody here in this channel would trust you. [11:38] true, we know of your vast exploit talents [11:38] lol [11:38] omg [11:38] that binary is not torjanized [11:38] says you. [11:39] Action: Intel[R]VT-x don't know why ppl don't trust each other like this way [11:39] because people are smarter than that? [11:39] hmmm. anybody else having the "fetch cover" in amarok in slack13 fail for every album? [11:39] trust is earned not givin [11:40] s/givin/given/ [11:40] mishehu: I think that's related to amazon changing something with their service. Long story short, update or leave broken [11:42] pprkut: ah figures. damn amazon. [11:42] you can keep cutting down the trees but you can't kill the amazon :-) [11:42] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:43] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [11:45] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-204.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:45] Action: rogersman is having trouble finding torjanized in the dictionary... [11:46] rogersman: it means "made by Intel[R]VT-x" [11:46] look in your hacker dictionary [11:46] Action: pprkut runs [11:46] "vast explot talent"? [11:46] rogersman: try starting looking under "Deranged troll"? ;-) [11:47] thrice`, is he well known? [11:48] this channel is going down the tubes [11:48] I bet those greeks never thought 2000 years later, we would still be talking about their stupid horse... [11:48] jonsmith1982, no, was just in here for a few days talking about all of the exploits he's found on milmworm or w/e [11:48] well, homer, anyway :-p [11:48] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [11:49] hi all [11:51] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [11:52] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:52] isonow (n=isonow@205.Red-88-26-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:52] why are we still tolerating Intel[R]VT-x's presence here? [11:53] i wasnt. [11:53] no, I was referring to the ops. [11:53] hes been warned. [11:54] kbad (n=kyle@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [11:54] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Personally I think sending .ding .exe to channel members (without their consent) should be bannable :) [11:54] akira42_ (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] oh in that case hes hankering for a ban [11:55] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-204.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:55] maybe even a kline if it gets reported to the network opers [11:55] IMO, he should have been banned days ago. [11:55] shepherd (n=shepherd@unaffiliated/shepherd) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:56] thumbs: i had the discussion with unixfool about the topic of more ops, regretably i was drunk at the time but he doesnt feel its nessisary [11:56] Lol he just tried to DCC send somebody and .exe file? [11:56] *an [11:56] spook: no, there are enough ops. [11:57] thumbs: there are time periods when there are no ops. like right now. [11:58] kbad (n=kyle@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left ##slackware. [11:59] what is the criterion used for him to conclude that it's not necessary? [12:00] shrug. [12:00] Necrogami (n=djnecrog@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [12:00] He is the channel owner. [12:00] i'd be curious to know. i'm one of those crazy guys who likes to hear intelligent reasons for thing [12:00] i wasnt argumentally drunk, i was agreeable drunk at the time, i remembered to bring it up with him cause he was active. [12:03] i haven't given it much thought but if someone asked me that question i'd base it on whether or not we had all time zones covered [12:03] lemme pastebin the log [12:03] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [12:04] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/yEmDpx23.html [12:04] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:04] Emeau-cat__ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:05] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:05] hy [12:06] shepherd (n=shepherd@unaffiliated/shepherd) joined ##slackware. [12:07] spook is it one person or many who bother the channel during your usual time on here? [12:07] differs [12:07] mancha: so 23 ops? [12:07] just seems that other times, the smackdown is immediate. [12:07] Didn't you read the log? It's two -- he and his friend. :P [12:07] lol [12:07] Xgizzmo, contact me when you procure some brainz [12:08] mancha: Perhaps you should contact him again when you learn how to spell 'brains'. [12:08] spook, well it is natural there'll be times when there are fewer sheriffs in town...can't you produce the logs and get the bans placed post-fact? [12:08] Alan, take your meds [12:09] mancha: He could. [12:09] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "berb" [12:09] Don't mind if I do. [12:09] Action: Alan_Hicks puts in a nice big wad of chewin' tobacco. [12:09] mancha: i could do that if i was around when there are active ops. [12:09] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] spook, that might be the best course, it seems the current op-set (i don't even know who they are) would like to see the membership not increase. which is certinly a valid viewpoint [12:11] i think there a few people who would be definite candidates. i am not one of them. [12:11] what time do you usually see this (i'd like to know to avoid that timeframe heh) [12:12] i dunno, about 5-6 before now till about 4-5 hours from now [12:13] spook, the other reality to face is that irc has grown more, hrmmm...accessible (to pick a word). [12:13] this means you will get a lot more $CRAP joining [12:14] Action: jonsmith1982 voila \o/ [12:14] Speaking on behalf of the ops, we try to be pretty liberal in what we'll allow. [12:15] In the past, this channel was highly over-opped to the point of ridiculousness. [12:15] i miss those days [12:15] that was before your time spook. [12:16] Personally, I don't think we have a bad troll problem here. Sometimes there are some annoying trolls, but for the most part the channel doesn't suffer from a lack of ops. [12:16] We may not always be available, but we do the best we can, and I feel that we do a good job of it. [12:16] kr_eten (n=quick@client-73-63-226.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:17] chopp: orly? [12:18] i've personally not noticed a bad troll problem, as in malicious trolling, just the occasioanl losers [12:19] maybe i'd just losing patience. [12:19] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] Right. We do occasionally get some people that stir up trouble, but for the most part its a pretty tame channel. [12:21] i don't have any first hand knowledge, but my guess would be that channels of much more popular distribs have considerably more problems [12:22] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [12:23] anyhow, i'd like to take a moment to rant about xfce's pre-programmed clock output formats [12:23] orage clock is more flexible [12:23] it is corect this syntaxt : # setxkbmap ro_RO.utf8 ? [12:23] they have HH:MM AM/PM as a choice where HH goes 00-23. they don't have the same one for HH going from 00-12. now, just a litle point here....AM/PM makes no sense in a 24 clock [12:24] i think some xfce folks need to serve in the armed forces [12:24] mancha, use the orage clock [12:24] mancha: Use the "Custom" option with "%I:%M %p" [12:24] You can figure out on your own what option to use for seconds if you like. [12:24] Alan, of course i did! :) my rant is just about the defults. [12:25] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.149.213) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]" [12:25] %S does seconds. they use the same macro set as strftime, as luck would have it [12:26] or,how can i set my $LANG (varialbe) to ro_RO.utf8 ? [12:26] export LANG=ro.... [12:27] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:27] vldmr (n=vldmr@187.64.33.148) joined ##slackware. [12:28] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:28] Nick change: vldmr -> AbsTradELic [12:29] christian (n=christia@kobz-590f9dd5.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:29] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Client Quit [12:29] dorin this'll last thought that login session, you need to set it in somewhere like an rc user file for the user or you can make it systemwide in the system profile files [12:29] s/thought/throughout [12:32] rogersman (n=gr235423@192.18.1.36) left ##slackware. [12:33] do you know what package we have to install in order to have amarock icon ? [12:34] amarok probably [12:34] spook: no [12:35] sidh: which slackware version? [12:35] 13.0 [12:35] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] _marc` (n=marc@port-212-202-171-142.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [12:36] sidh: You have oxygen icons installed? [12:36] the amarok package has all the amarok.pngs [12:36] fire|bird: yes [12:36] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [12:36] when i start amarok in kde, i get a '?' icon [12:36] fire|bird: oxygen-icons is -current only [12:36] there's something I never do correctly in scripting: escaping [12:36] and in menu editor i can not find any amarok icon [12:37] how can I find all the ".ape" files and run them through some command? [12:37] pprkut: Ah, ok. I have it just because I have 4.3.1 and needed it or I didn't have any icons at all. [12:37] yes, kde 4.3 needs it. 4.2 does not [12:37] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs fire|bird :) [12:37] doesn't the latest defn file of clamav take care of kde? [12:37] fire|bird: i did the same thing :P [12:37] pprkut: ok, thanks. :) [12:37] spook: haha [12:38] antary (n=antary@180-40-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] y0 Camarade_Tux [12:40] for i in $(find -iname "*.ape"); do some_command $i; done [12:41] hi, guys. Does anybody have Network UPS Tools SlackBuild for slackware 13? I didn't find this on slackbuilds.org [12:41] but the path will have spaces in it, how should I escape it? [12:41] sed [12:41] exit [12:42] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5457c96e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "leaving" [12:42] :) [12:42] spook: sed? [12:42] s/ /\ /g [12:42] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-129-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:43] but $i will only have parts of the filepath, or do you mean $(find -iname "*.wv" | sed -e 's/ /\ /g')? [12:44] something like that yeah [12:44] ok, I'll try in 150 seconds [12:44] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:44] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:44] will "${i}" work ? [12:44] thats awfully specific. [12:45] I never got it right with "${i}" [12:45] find ./ -name "*.doc" -exec command {} \; [12:45] that should do it without a for loop [12:46] and no escaping needed [12:46] oops "*.ape" [12:46] gapan: right, I hate find's -exec syntax though =/ [12:46] ok [12:47] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [12:47] more than one way to sodomise a skinned cat. [12:47] what is with IFS also? [12:47] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [12:47] mancha, it worked, tnx [12:47] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:52] hmmm [12:52] spook: and you tried them all? ;) [12:52] BP{k}: well i'd need a lot of sake. [12:52] sppok .. well there's two bottles left ;) [12:52] spook: he :p [12:53] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC305AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:53] i feel like sake right now, but i dont have any :( [12:53] bah, I hate having to escape paths [12:53] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.215.100) joined ##slackware. [12:54] BP{k}: gimme gimme [12:54] Nick change: KB1JWQ -> HolyInappropriat [12:54] Nick change: HolyInappropriat -> KB1JWQ [12:57] for i in "$(find -iname "*.ape" | sed -e 's/ /\ /g')"; do echo $i; done [12:58] needs quotes around $() too [12:58] and "${i}" for good practice :) [12:58] yeah, I usually ${} [12:59] zaltekk (i=1000@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] thrice`: still around? i got nvidiafb to load [12:59] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:59] spook: I have some Champagne here, but you'd get nothing, and I'd short out my laptop. [12:59] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:59] but it says "unknown NV_ARCH". does it maybe just not support newer nvidia cards? [12:59] bah, doesn't work actually [12:59] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [13:00] caoliver: is it pink bella? [13:00] vesafb is pretty good [13:00] zaltekk, nice :) not sure, i'm an intel user; possibly, I suppose [13:00] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] Camarade_Tux, ok, i'm not in a position to test, but I don't think that's right [13:00] Camarade_Tux: what about uvesafb? are you familiar with it? [13:01] thrice`: 18:59 Camarade_Tux : bah, doesn't work actually [13:01] spook: 375ml Rene Geoffroy rose and 750ml Jean Laurent Rose. (Got some bdb and non pink as well) [13:01] ;) [13:01] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:01] zaltekk: no, I only know somebody who used it on yesterday and was pleased with it [13:01] caoliver: sorry, no dice. i dont drink any champagne except pink bella [13:01] caoliver: he doesn't like french stuff ;-) [13:01] maybe something like "$(find . -iname "*.ape"; do $( echo $i | sed -e 's/ /\ \g' ); done [13:02] er [13:02] Camarade_Tux: okay. i just want something that can take advantage of my video hardware and not bog down when there is a lot of text scrolling by [13:02] thrice`: i would only hold a word at a time [13:02] Camarade_Tux: postcard in the mail? [13:02] Action: Camarade_Tux will probably use -exec [13:02] spook: not yet :P [13:03] How 'bout Antinori Montenisa and Olivini? [13:03] zaltekk: uvesafb might be worth the try [13:03] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-100.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:04] i also saw directfb.org [13:05] i don't know if that actually does what i want, though [13:05] for i in $( find . -iname "*.ape" ); do $( echo ${i} | sed -e 's/ /_/g' ) or so ? [13:06] kr_eten (n=quick@client-73-63-226.speedy-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [13:06] thrice`: but if find returns: A - B/C - D.ape, i will be A, then -, then B/C, then -, then D.ape [13:06] I ran it with find [13:06] I mean find -exec [13:08] SlackLnx (n=Slackwar@85.139.11.216) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-220-37.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] 19:08, let's see how long it takes to convert all these ape files [13:10] Camarade_Tux: How many are there? [13:10] lots [13:10] Camarade_Tux: Well, don't sit and stare at the screen waiting then, you'll go blind. :P [13:11] i'm wearing a real UN baret. [13:11] I miss windows and its defragmentation tools you could look at for hours [13:11] red blocks, blue blocks, blinking blocks :) [13:11] lol [13:12] fire|bird: 74 files [13:12] haha [13:12] and 13 additional ones [13:14] two done [13:15] oh, I forgot I had two dozens of single-track .ape files :) [13:16] haha [13:16] that'll take a little while. [13:17] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:17] only 60 left out of the 74 :) [13:18] Camarade_Tux: What are you doing to the apes? [13:19] killing them all -_- [13:19] ape -> mp3? ape -> ogg? [13:19] Camarade_Tux, oh, I see. hmph [13:19] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:19] Jacket, Field, M-1943 [13:20] my new "mp3" player can't read them all, some are borked (ffmpeg couldn't read them either a few months ago), I'm transcoding them to flac [13:20] Ok. [13:20] and I'll have to transcode my .mpc files to .ogg bah [13:20] hey thrice`, how are you? [13:20] Camarade_Tux, why not change the file names to remove spaces first? [13:20] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:20] I ask, 'cos I occasionaly did that for my Karma. [13:21] s/aly/ally/ [13:21] thrice`: I'm going to run 'find | wc -l' for you :) [13:21] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [13:21] % find /mnt/sdc1/Musique | wc -l [13:21] 5960 [13:21] see :) [13:21] well, why not just replace the spaces with a "_" anyway? [13:21] somebody /cycle [13:21] like a good linux user :) [13:22] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:22] This jacket increases greatly the warmth of clothing worn under it in cold and temperate climates because it is windproof. [13:22] thrice`: I usually escape my spaces by hand :P [13:22] Action: Alan_Hicks actually had a script for converting file names to all lowercase letters. [13:22] and I don't like _ in names [13:23] well, not all [13:23] Oh the pain., [13:23] SlackLnx (n=Slackwar@85.139.11.216) left irc: "Leaving" [13:23] It does make piping find to xargs a bit ugly. [13:24] my music is usually: Artist/Artist - Album/Artist - Album - Track_number - Track_name.ext [13:24] Alan_Hicks, an entire script for "tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'" ? :D [13:24] Mine is usually Track_n with a directory structure indicating the artist and album. [13:25] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] thrice`: It also converted punctuation to '-' and whitespace to _, as well as handling several common cases like _-_, truncating those to a single _. [13:25] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:26] oh, ok :) [13:26] I can't stand whitespace in my filenames.. i have a script that checks for "illegal" characters such as (,): etc. and replaces them them either . or _ [13:26] ' is annoying too. [13:27] # find . | (while read line; do mv "$line" "$(echo "$line" | sed s+\ +_+g)"; done) [13:27] actually, characters such as (): are removed completely, and whitespace is replaced with either . or _ now that I think about it [13:27] And `. File named `rm -rf /` anyone? [13:27] he :) [13:27] That'll get rid of whitespace, replacing each occurance with a single underscore. You can expand it as you like with additional sedfu for punctuation, repeated underscores, etc. [13:28] _bruno (n=bruno@201-92-86-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:28] miked (n=mike@203.88.90.202) joined ##slackware. [13:30] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [13:34] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. 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[13:38] hello world [13:38] and i dont want to download huge amaount of spam [13:38] zaltekk: thats fortune [13:38] also, countmail [13:38] spook: yeah =[ [13:39] _bruno (n=bruno@201-92-86-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:40] antary (n=antary@180-40-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [13:40] _bruno (n=bruno@201-92-86-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-92-86-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:41] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-92-86-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:41] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-92-86-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:42] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:44] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [13:45] shepherd (n=shepherd@unaffiliated/shepherd) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:47] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:47] argh... didn't even realize i got dc'd >.> [13:49] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.4.75) joined ##slackware. [13:49] heya Necos [13:50] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [13:51] acidtripper: imap? [13:51] fwc (i=0@cpe-204-210-154-184.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:52] mm i was asking about servers like gnu.org or something to create a mail account [13:53] couse my gmail acc is full of spam [13:54] acidtripper: I've had gmail for a while now, I don't have any spam. [13:54] hey fire|bird [13:54] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8CEC2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] any spam i do get i tag as spam [13:55] well but i have lot of and i dont want to configure all things as spam, simply want a pop3 and smtp account to have in my machine [13:55] Naraku (n=supergea@65.113.15.181) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:55] im trying to do these http://www.gnu.org/software/README.accounts.html [13:55] hey fire|bird, have you played with conkyrc? [13:56] i have some conkyrc, if you want i can post it [13:56] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.80.127.250) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] Necos: a little, in the past, but not much. [13:56] trying to figure out if you can get conky to do things horizontally instead of vertically [13:57] yeah, you can, but I'm not sure how. [13:58] i wanna stretch it across my desktop instead of down one side, that's all lol [13:58] try searching on kde-look.org or those sites were lot of conyrc's there [13:58] yeah, that for sure can be done, I'm just not sure how. There are many examples of that though around on the interwebs. [13:59] http://geekosphere.org/wp-content/200702200152491024x768szg9.png <--- like this [13:59] take a look or search in google, are plenty config files there [14:00] ernie__ (n=ernie@212.183.134.210) left irc: "Leaving" [14:00] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.197.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:00] fwc (i=0@cpe-204-210-154-184.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:01] yeah, i'm searching as we speak [14:02] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:03] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:03] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] usr13: ping [14:04] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:04] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Necos, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Horizontal+Conky+System+Monitor?content=114089 [14:09] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:09] Necos, this is what you'r searching i think http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/3lines+-+conky+config?content=110400 [14:11] zaltekk (i=1000@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: "reboot" [14:13] nvision (n=nvision@g225052024.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:13] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Connection timed out [14:15] acidtripper: that cony config sucks [14:15] the idea is to take it as example [14:15] ok, it's doesn't but it has a problem: when the usage percentages change, the layout change too [14:15] Action: fire|bird pokes Camarade_Tux in the eye. BE NICE. [14:15] it was more something against conky [14:15] couse he wanted horizontal [14:16] mine is and it's a pita [14:16] if you have any other config post it [14:16] you can't easily make one [14:16] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:16] and it won't be clean afaik [14:16] nvision (n=nvision@g225052024.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [14:17] but you can simply modify what i postd [14:17] and that was the idea [14:17] mine [14:17] http://vpaste.net/pKraV? [14:18] but Necos disappeared :S [14:18] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-25-214.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:18] im not using conky [14:18] http://omploader.org/vMjZuNA [14:19] Camarade_Tux: that conky config sucks. :D [14:19] fire|bird: sure [14:19] lol [14:19] lol [14:19] Camarade_Tux: using xmonad? [14:19] fire|bird: waiting for an horizontal config that won't need tons of goto's [14:19] acidtripper: openbox [14:20] not tiling [14:20] try removing unneed things [14:20] like mail, and such things [14:20] btw, the "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" at the end of the config is a work-around for disappearing items [14:21] the problem is the last line in my config: all apps don't use the same amount of memory, the same cpu time, and ... they don't have the same name [14:21] which means widths vary and it breaks the layout [14:22] I mean, the names move around and it makes it hard to quickly glance at names [14:23] rlood (n=rlood@187.2.150.22) joined ##slackware. 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[14:32] what are the packages i didn't install ? [14:32] lol [14:32] haha [14:32] :) [14:32] did you do the install yourself? were you picking/choosing, or? [14:33] rlood (n=rlood@187.2.150.22) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:33] thrice`: i did all myself (that is the problem :) ) [14:33] rlood (n=rlood@c-24-61-195-225.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] did you unslect individual packages from a, ap, or l ? [14:34] i mean i slackpkg install kde, select all kde packages [14:34] and after eache time i was facing a kde apps that was getting in error from launching by a term, i installed the missing packages [14:35] but this one (with the icon missing, i don't know what its name) [14:35] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) joined ##slackware. [14:36] well, when you did the install, did you install everything from l/ ? [14:36] maybe old config files are bothering there [14:37] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:38] thrice`: i'm not sure , but this is not in this sets that i made a lot of changes (not sure if i made some), how ot check ? [14:39] sidh: wishing you'd done a full install now? :) [14:40] muahahahaha [14:40] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [14:41] >.> [14:41] rogersman (n=gr235423@192.18.1.36) joined ##slackware. [14:41] fire|bird: i decided to move to slack to avoid dependancies stuff, but here I realized the importance of a Full install in this case$ [14:41] lol [14:41] haha [14:42] and failed [14:42] kde needs most of l/ anyway [14:42] upgradepkg --install-new l/*.txz will tell you ;) [14:42] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) left irc: "Leaving" [14:42] When connecting my ext ntfs drive, kde is taking ~8 seconds to detect its presence, is this a normal time frame? [14:42] ap, ap, d, l are pretty much full installs [14:42] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) joined ##slackware. [14:43] thrice`: I'm just reading that xfce4-notifyd got a new commit to the master branch fixing notifications overlapping each other. [14:43] Cannot install l/*.txz: file not found [14:44] sidh: You fail at life. [14:44] same with 'l/*.txz' [14:44] hey Alan_Hicks, how are you? [14:44] brainfart alert: does slackpkg have a package set install option? [14:44] obviously, where l/*.txz is the path to your mounted DVD(-rom,.iso) [14:44] fire|bird: Anxious. I feel like there's something I should be doing right about now, but I can't think of what... [14:44] work? :D [14:44] lol [14:45] ok [14:45] yes, something to do with work. [14:45] lol, yeah, that thing... thrice` you evil bastard :) [14:45] Alan_Hicks: do not push the red button! [14:45] too late [14:45] the world will turn into a baked potato! [14:45] let's eat it [14:45] Necos: Not until December 2012. [14:45] ooooooh [14:46] i'm hungry >.<; [14:46] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) left irc: Client Quit [14:46] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't want to wait for 3 years ='( [14:46] Necos: Have sidh cook something while he does a slack FULL install. ;) [14:47] i don't want anything he's gonna cook >.> [14:47] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [14:48] haha [14:48] Hello, is it possible to tail -f based on a regex?or what is the best way to do this? [14:48] It'd be "Half Baked" [14:48] and make me sick >.> [14:48] sick Necos != happy Necos [14:49] epaphus: tail can only operate on a single file at a time anyway, so using wild cards is pointless. You probably want multitail, but that's not included in slackware. [14:49] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [14:49] right, if misses dependencies when installing Slackware, he's likely to miss dependencies for cooking as well [14:49] thrice`: it seems the icons for kolourpaint were not in /l/* [14:50] sidh: maybe move over your .kde see if that helps [14:50] well, I am confident the icons weren't, but figured it might be librsvg or something [14:50] pprkut: Why do I need libegg to make /usr/bin/cake? Can I substitute libsugar for libflour and it come out the same? [14:50] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [14:50] ^^ [14:50] Alan_Hicks, iam trying to tail an access log whos first string on each line is the src IP.. but i only want to see the relevant lines with a specific src IP and ignore the others [14:51] real time that is.. [14:51] Alan_Hicks: libflour might work, but a lot of users grab libsalt instead [14:51] pprkut: I've got libegg-2007-02-01, but it's calling for a libegg version no older than 2009_08_01. I'll just use what I have, should be fine. [14:51] epaphus: Oh! That's different then. [14:52] there are some chinese dishes with *old* eggs ;) [14:52] Alan_Hicks, is it possible to do that somehow? [14:52] epaphus: Yes, and it's ridiculously easy. [14:52] Alan_Hicks, how though? [14:52] a hint? [14:52] Action: esoteric sitting in a class at LISA right now [14:52] Alan_Hicks: there you go, just make sure to prepend chinese to the resulting cake and you can use whatever you want [14:52] :) [14:52] if anyones got a spare grand on two, you could do worse - http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ [14:53] tail -f /var/log/messages | grep sudo # in another terminal, type sudo -i. You should see only sudo messages in the first console. [14:55] rogersman: No thanks. I've spent years developing my typings skills to the point that I don't need to look at the keyboard anymore. Spending upwards of $1,500 USD on a keyboard with fancy built-in displays that I'll never look at just doesn't strike me as a wise investment. [14:55] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] lol [14:55] optimus is awesome [14:56] yes, i was being sarcastic... ;-) [14:56] personally, i never go over $500 when buying a keyboard [14:57] Though it would be nice to have that kind of money to waste... [14:58] I never go over $20. [14:59] I might pay upwards of $50 for a real good buckling spring keyboard. [14:59] really? :D [15:00] ibm? :P [15:00] Yeah. [15:00] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-220-37.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] I have two, one with a missing key though [15:01] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] I'm not buying some one's used keyboard, even if it is a Model M. [15:02] he ;-) [15:02] some do however ^^ [15:06] argh, i want to kill conky >.<; [15:06] strankan_ (n=strankan@c-decd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Client Quit [15:07] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [15:07] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:08] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:09] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:10] infoman (n=ALL@196.202.27.173) left ##slackware. [15:11] thrice`: for info the missing icon were in one of the kdei/*.txz [15:12] mm [15:12] i chose only the fr, and en first [15:12] but it seems it is not enough [15:12] you can definitely run kde without anything from kdei [15:12] I'd guess it was something else [15:12] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:13] thrice`: each time i ran the 'installnew' command , i test with launching kolourpaint [15:13] Hmm, there's a power manager 0.8.4.1 now, I wonder if that'll solve my issue. [15:13] that is why i can tell you it is after installing the whole kdei/*.txz stuff [15:13] farchanjo (n=Brazil@linux.fujb.ufrj.br) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Alan_Hicks: wow, there's a zen-like quality to that - "I've spent years developing my typings skills to the point that I don't need to look at the keyboard anymore." [15:14] ... you could almost s/typing/computing/ and s/look at the keyboard/use a GUI/ [15:15] Necos: why? [15:15] Wiren (i=Wiren@mar44-3-82-235-66-69.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:15] because it's not behaving the way i want it to >.<; [15:16] trying to convert a conkyrc from vertical to horizontal, and it's a bitch [15:18] geeky_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [15:20] heh, and little did i know there's a #conky on freenode [15:20] hahaha [15:20] i'm going to kirr them >.> [15:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:22] joe^ (i=1000@151.81.27.239) joined ##slackware. [15:22] joe^ (i=1000@151.81.27.239) left ##slackware. [15:24] fire|bird: transcoding done :D [15:24] Necos: definitely a bitch [15:25] ph|ber (n=phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) left irc: "Changing server" [15:26] Camarade_Tux: awesome [15:26] beatzz (i=1000@cpe-66-69-57-217.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:26] sup all [15:26] I am here working on my old desktop trying to get sound working [15:26] I ran #alsaconf [15:26] went with all the sudjestions [15:27] ran # alsamixer [15:27] fire|bird: took two hours :D [15:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-151-40-17.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:27] put all volume to max [15:27] still no sound [15:27] did you unmute them after turning them up? [15:27] yes, I hit 'm' [15:28] fire|bird, neat; i've never used xfce-notifyd [15:28] was it muted before that? :D [15:28] which apps utilize it? [15:28] when they show "MM" as the volume level that is mute correct? [15:28] let's transcode .wv files now [15:28] I know x-p-m can through libnotify [15:28] slackie (n=x@87.196.4.194) joined ##slackware. [15:29] thrice`, yes all volume bars are unmuted and at 100% [15:29] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:29] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:30] thrice`: I haven't really either. I think I have it installed on the laptop, just never really done anything with it. [15:30] ok, and it's obviously a retarded question, but PLEASE check that a) the speakers are plugged in, b) volume is up, c) speakeres are on [15:30] geeky_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: "leaving" [15:30] thrice`, all are good [15:30] if you have the speakers plugged into the headphone jack, make sure that jack is also not muted [15:30] thrice`, I have even put all volumes to 100% in kmix [15:30] thrice`, nothing is muted, its all on, but no sound. [15:31] thrice`: Well, for example, when you adjust the volume it'll show with notifyd, and I would guess apps like claws or pidgin, etc. could use it for their notifications. [15:31] would you like to see lspci? [15:31] I can paste it [15:31] I don't think that'll help anything :) [15:31] or w/e else you would like to see. [15:31] mm [15:31] what isn't producing sound, just one app? [15:31] nothing at all [15:31] no sound [15:32] you've tried a non-kde app, like mplayer? [15:32] should I get nvidia perhaps? [15:32] I don't know what that means [15:32] nvidia module [15:32] when you run alsamixer, does it show the correct module in the upper left? [15:33] in the top left I have "Card: CA0106" [15:33] Chip: and the rest are all blank [15:34] I cant belive this dosent work, I have installed the SAME dvd on this computer like...10 times [15:34] and everytime the sound works outa the box [15:34] bah, .0.8.4.1 didn't help a darn thing. [15:34] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:34] fire|bird, :( just no icon, or? [15:34] do events, etc. work? [15:35] the sys-tray icon will need the svg library from l/ installed [15:35] but I am sure you have that [15:35] no icon at all, and the brightness plugin still shows No Device Found. [15:35] yeah, have that. [15:35] hal and dbus are running? [15:35] yeah [15:36] I wonder where it gets that information; lshal or so? [15:36] I'm not sure. When I first installed slack on the laptop, it was there and worked, then it just up and disappeared, and there isn't really anything that was done that would have caused it either. [15:37] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-59-100-88-105.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:38] fire|bird, i compiled seamonkey 2.0 [15:38] WHAT?!?!?!?! [15:39] it just worked for me [15:39] with no problems :| [15:39] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] :| [15:39] you used slackware's slackbuild, 2.0 source, and it just worked? [15:39] I tried on both desktop and laptop with the same result. [15:39] ah, no [15:39] i used simply the 2.0 source [15:40] chee: and then .configure, make, make install route? [15:40] yes [15:40] Ah, ok, so it's something that needs an edit in the slackbuild. [15:40] yes, i think so [15:40] beatzz (i=1000@cpe-66-69-57-217.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:40] slackie (n=x@87.196.4.194) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [15:40] but WHAT? :P I'm lost. [15:41] this the slackbuild you used, http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/patches/source/seamonkey/seamonkey.SlackBuild ? [15:41] yup [15:41] fire|bird: Change line 243 to read " E=MC^2 " and it SHOULD work. [15:41] lol, Nick_Patterson [15:41] hahaha [15:43] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:43] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:44] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [15:45] fire|bird, what's the error you're getting, again? [15:45] chee: It can't find ldappr.h [15:47] D: [15:47] have you tried Nick_Patterson 's solution [15:47] fire|bird, did you remove seamonkey-{,solibs} first? [15:48] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:48] thrice`: remove the previous package of it you mean, or remove that from the slackbuild? [15:48] package :) [15:48] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [15:48] oops, am I suppose to? [15:48] maybe it's trying to link against the old libraries and dying [15:48] worth a try. [15:49] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:49] akira42_ (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:50] I'm still baffled by the power manager issue too. I have the worst luck, eh? :P [15:50] Well, not as bad as sidh, but..... [15:50] thrice`: ok, here goes. I hope that IS the cause. :P [15:51] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] about all I can think of. I"ll play later at home if it doesn't work :D [15:51] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:51] I thought you had seamonkey figured out, though [15:52] thrice`: Just don't use seamonkey 2 on fedora, there be dragons. :) [15:52] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [15:52] Well, sort of, I thought it was that ldappr.h was in a different dir, but after trying on the laptop last night, I don't think that's the case. [15:53] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.134.204) joined ##slackware. [15:53] There, got midori upgraded. [15:53] I just built midori and tried it for the first time - it seemed cool, but I found a show-stopper - it crashed whenever I created a new window. [15:54] that's probably webkit, and not midori [15:54] ah [15:54] rk4n3: Without new glib, etc. We're sort of stuck with the webkit version we can use. [15:55] aha [15:55] indeed; maybe if rworkman would do some work around here .. [15:55] lol [15:55] I loved the speed-dial on new tabs [15:55] fwiw, new window works here. [15:55] really ? [15:55] hmmm [15:55] midori 0.2.0 [15:56] ah, I was on 0.1.something [15:56] rogersman (n=gr235423@192.18.1.36) left ##slackware. [15:56] I'm going to build arora now too, the latest. [15:56] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [15:56] seamonkey is still extracting. [15:57] i'm going to admit something to all you guys, that i've kept a secret for many years: [15:57] chee: you're secretly using Ubuntu? [15:57] i don't read slashdot [15:58] isn't 'slackware' the name of the ubuntu support channel ?? [15:58] chee: haha, to some people, yeah, I think it is. [15:58] and the solution is always the same, sudo apt-get remove Ubuntu && sudo apt-get install Slackware. ;) [15:59] I also hate slashdot, don't feel too bad :) [15:59] I don't read slashdot either. [15:59] :D [15:59] Action: chee feels good now that he's opened up [15:59] well.. I join you... I hate slashdot either [15:59] I only started reading slashdot about 18 months ago, and quite about 16 months ago [15:59] thrice`: The extraction of seamonkey alon is over 60,000 lines. ;) [15:59] i thought i was alone! [16:00] s/quite/quit [16:00] Action: Alan_Hicks hasn't read /. in years. [16:00] sier (n=sier@unaffiliated/sier) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:00] Action: metrofox asks God if he reads slashdot [16:00] no he doesn't either ;) [16:00] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Off to read slashdot" [16:00] metrofox's http header gets rewritten with an s/God/Google [16:00] haha [16:00] lol [16:01] Action: chee asks "Bob" if he reads slashdot [16:01] :D [16:01] God told me he got modded -1 Troll when he tried to explain how the Big Bang really happened. He hasn't gone back since. [16:01] haha [16:01] lol [16:01] rotfl [16:01] rot13fl [16:01] I didn't get it [16:01] metrofox: don't worry, maybe someday you will. ;) [16:01] ti teg t'ndid I [16:02] yah... someday [16:02] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:02] sub cipher on the floor laughing [16:02] Not exactly the right thing, but maybe it'll get you thinking. [16:02] there, arora upgraded. [16:03] :D [16:03] i'm going to switch to chatzilla, and see how my life is then [16:03] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:03] Now to figure out seamonkey and batter monitor issues and all will be well. [16:04] miked (n=mike@203.88.90.202) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:07] nice, arora has adblock built in now, using EasyList [16:08] chee (n=chatzill@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] welcome back chee [16:09] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) left ##slackware. [16:09] ty ^^ [16:09] so, how is it? [16:09] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:10] my life after xchat? [16:10] yeah [16:10] and with chatzilla [16:10] it's not bad [16:10] i had to change the font and setup some startup scripts [16:10] wait til you try irssi :) [16:10] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-66-246.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:10] haha, i use irssi [16:11] and normally do when I can switch to virtual terminals [16:11] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [16:11] i liked keeping her running on tty5 or tty4 [16:11] can someone help me with this http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1313236 ? [16:11] but now that I can't switch away from X, my life is sad and lonely and not worth living [16:12] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [16:12] oh yum, opening links from smchatzilla to smbrowser, is fast and hot [16:12] Guest78028 (n=mike@203.88.90.202) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Nick change: Guest78028 -> miked [16:13] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:13] zoran119: have you tried /join #nagios [16:13] chee: will try [16:14] :) [16:14] EW WTF [16:14] EMOTICONS IN MY IRC [16:14] zoran119: learn how to elaborate more. pointing to some link without even a short blurb about what it is, makes you look lazy [16:14] and nobody wants to help lazy people [16:15] thank the lord :) :) :( :( :| :| :D :D [16:15] they are gone [16:15] Action: chee calms his nerves with a saucer of heroin [16:15] Action: chee laplaplap [16:15] Especially when the link in question looks like you're having trouble with a Whirlpool Washer/Dryer combo or something. [16:15] lol [16:16] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:16] thrice`: There, I'm now on the xfce mailing lists. :) Well, 8 of em anyway. [16:17] hey fire|bird, almost got the conkyrc perfect now :) [16:17] Necos: excellent. 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[16:23] conky is slackware-related >.> [16:24] fire|bird, the only change in x-p-m was to a small build fix [16:24] it just occured to me that the people who were trying to get a slackware-offtopic on the rip were going about things the wrong way [16:24] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [16:24] i wasn't insulting you, necos [16:24] i wasn't insulted :P [16:25] He wasn't, but I was, chee ! [16:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:25] Apologize to me! [16:25] Nick_Patterson needs a shot of insulin >.> [16:25] Action: chee holds Necos's hand and looks off into the sunset [16:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Necos: You have bigger problems at the moment. :D [16:26] now i'm insulted :) [16:26] Lol [16:26] Action: chee holds Nick_Patterson's foot and stares off into the willowing middle-distance [16:26] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:26] http://omploader.org/vMm9sNA/slack.jpg [16:27] Ooh, that is clean :) [16:27] nomnomnom, necos [16:27] nomnomnomnomnom. [16:27] ugly necos [16:27] Your config, Necos ? [16:27] thrice`: yeah, I see that. Something sure isn't right though that it isn't working. [16:27] jeev stfu :) [16:27] UGLY [16:27] Necos++ [16:28] chee (n=chatzill@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:28] i modified someone else's config to horizontal layout [16:29] you want it Nick_Patterson? [16:30] go tux; http://www.wimp.com/whalespenguin/ [16:30] any russians ? [16:30] http://www.pastebin.ca/1653790 [16:31] Necos: Yeah, I'll grab... oh [16:31] archiac (n=dscott@70-88-181-197-Atlanta.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Necos: Thank you, Sir :) [16:31] it's a beast lol, WIP [16:31] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:31] paul_Ram (i=1000@cpe-66-69-57-217.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:32] rlood (n=rlood@c-24-61-195-225.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left irc: [16:32] sup all this is beatzz [16:32] I got the sound working [16:32] congrats [16:32] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.134.204) left irc: "Leaving." [16:32] had to mess with some of the switches in Kmix [16:32] Lol [16:32] now i need to get him the mouse wheel working [16:32] and nvidia drivers, then im done [16:32] chee (n=chatzill@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. 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[16:39] learn the power of tab [16:39] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.49.27) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:39] Action: chee bathes in tab's light [16:40] brb reseting xorg [16:40] paul_Ram (i=1000@cpe-66-69-57-217.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:40] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:40] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:41] paul_Ram (i=1000@cpe-66-69-57-217.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] ok, nvidia-xorgconf worked w/o problems [16:41] now I run nvidiaconf yes? [16:41] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] greetings [16:42] y0 slackytude [16:42] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:42] aloha, slackytude [16:43] y0 fire|bird, chee ^-^ [16:45] hows it going [16:45] thrice`: I just ran strace on power manager and I get "Resource temporarily Unavailable" messages. [16:45] i just wrote a program in see called 'starx' [16:45] Action: Necos pokes fire|bird [16:45] Action: Necos then stabs fire|bird for good measure [16:46] that prints 'lrn2spell' to the console and then quits [16:46] *in c [16:46] haha, how did that happen [16:46] Action: fire|bird stabs chee [16:46] chee, meh [16:46] Action: chee is stabbed [16:46] fire|bird, did you see the SS? [16:46] chee, why C? [16:46] Necos: yeah. Good work. :) [16:46] still needs some tweaking, but i'm liking the prelim results [16:46] paul_Ram (i=1000@cpe-66-69-57-217.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:47] slackytude: dno. it was the first thing that came to mind [16:47] thats a bash oneliner [16:47] fire|bird, yes, the issue sounds outside of x-p-m :( I'm not sure how it finds the battery, though [16:47] but still nice [16:47] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-60-160.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:47] WHAT IF I DON'T LIKE BASH ONE LINERS D: [16:47] thrice`: I'm gonna give #xfce a try, maybe they have an idea. [16:47] Action: chee apologises for shouting at slackytude [16:47] fire|bird, or, I'd email the author direct - he's a very nice guy :) [16:48] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-60-152.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:48] Action: deco pets chee [16:48] chee, :P [16:48] i don't like the way chatzilla prints everything that was said to me in the server tab [16:48] and makes its text turn red [16:48] that's annoying [16:48] maybe i can get an irssi plugin for seamonkey [16:49] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [16:49] thrice`: yeah, could do that too. [16:49] http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/ <--- wtf? [16:49] adobe [16:49] nuff said [16:49] i used to like that company [16:50] before they became a giant seamonster [16:50] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:51] lol seamonster? [16:52] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [16:52] wow [16:52] we have a survey that requires an SVG plugin for IE, so i'm guessing the adobe one is the only useable one on windows [16:52] xmbc running on a beagleboard [16:52] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/11/02/1549235/New-XBMC-Port-Promises-ARM-Powered-HD-in-the-Palm-of-Your-Hand [16:53] slackytude: i just tested a one line bash script version of it. It takes 0.001 SECONDS more Real Time to run than the C app [16:53] i don't know what it's like for you upper class folk [16:53] hmmmm, http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/svgtest.html <--- does this show properly for anyone using librsvg? [16:54] but i just don't have that kind of Real Time to waste [16:54] chee, bah! humbug [16:54] :D [16:54] WTF I TURNED EMOTICONS OFF [16:54] lol [16:54] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] this might be enough to make me leave chatzilla forever [16:54] chee: \o/ [16:54] jeez, with the caps [16:55] jeff__ (n=jeff@bzq-79-177-72-9.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] i'm not sure if this chatzilla life is going to last very long at all, fire|bird. we're really not seeing eye-to-eye on most things. [16:55] chee is fighting the eternal irc battle... [16:55] thrice`: I had even tried clearing out ~/.local, ~/.config, ~/.cache, etc. with no success. :P [16:56] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:56] chatzilla is nice actually >.> [16:56] Necos: says who? [16:56] i used to use it back when i could irc from work without ssh'ing to my house :P [16:56] its ok if you have nothing else [16:57] haha, necos [16:57] that's awesome [16:57] bye [16:57] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [16:57] now i have to ssh to my house, so kinda pointless to use it [16:57] so i just use epic5 :) [16:58] paissad-acer (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:58] people like irssi, but not my cup of tea [16:58] haha, fortune: "Kamikazes do it once." [17:00] lol [17:01] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:01] twice if they fail the first time [17:01] hahaha [17:01] :) [17:01] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-204.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [17:01] That reminds me of Jeff Dunham (Walter), betcha can't do it again dumbass. :P [17:02] hahaha [17:02] rogersman (n=gr235423@192.18.1.36) joined ##slackware. [17:02] dunuham [17:02] hey guys, to syncronise two folders (one on usb), the preferred method in rsync? [17:02] sure [17:03] hmmm, what's the newest version of librsvg? [17:04] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:04] or unison [17:04] Necos: why do you want librsvg? [17:04] firefox's svg support is better than rsvg now [17:04] webkit's too [17:04] because that's the svg viewer ff is using under slack 13 [17:04] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:04] actually support for svg through librsvg in firefox should probably be disabled now [17:05] that ^^ [17:05] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] hmmm, guess i should remove librsvg then >.> [17:06] Is it a good idea to put usr on it's own partition? Will it enhance performance or hinder it? [17:07] neither, AFAIK [17:07] Action: chee has usr on its own partition [17:07] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] Necos: just disable it: tools -> add-ons -> plugins [17:08] Necos: why did you want the most recent version? [17:08] okay thank you [17:09] well, i was playing with something and it didn't work (so i was wondering if it was a plugin glitch) [17:09] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-12-49.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] just disable librsvg's pluging and see, you only need to refresh the page after you've disabled it ;-) [17:10] yeah, and there's no svg support anymore lol [17:10] refresh the page [17:10] i foolishly gave about 10gb to my / partition [17:11] once I wanted to report a crash in webkit-gtk, it was librsvg actually [17:11] urban (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [17:12] try loading this page in FF 3.5.x http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/svgtest.html [17:12] Hokie888 (n=Adam@c-98-249-6-207.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] you're checking svg support on the page of adobe's own svg plugin [17:13] it doesn't check for svg, it checks for the plugin I think [17:13] that picture is static for me : ( [17:13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bitmap_VS_SVG.svg [17:13] I know its a bit off topic, but does anyone know a way to launch flash movie directly into external player (for ex xine) without first downloading the whole thing? flash player uses SO much resources, its nuts... [17:14] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-12-49.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:14] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A76D83.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] rogersman: that's not terribly hard to do but you're going to lose functionnality [17:14] in particularly, nothing guarantees this will work for each website [17:14] chee: well I really would just rather have all my games install to a different partion, though some games want to be put in /usr/games/ some /usr/local/games and still other into /usr/share/games. [17:15] mrselfpwn: tell them to get a hold of themselves [17:15] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:15] Camarade_Tux: I thought as much...Ive seen tools for *certain* sites like youtube, whatever, but nothing that will auto-grab a swf file... [17:16] flash was never designed to be a movie player, and it shows... [17:16] do you think it's safe to have all three of those symlinked to a single games folder on a separate partition? [17:16] i don't even have flash at all [17:17] rogersman, flash was only meant to show animations... well, technically, a movie IS an animation [17:17] i just don't use it because i'm an elitist wanker who thinks he's better than everyone [17:17] just extended over longer periods (hence the resource load) [17:17] Necos: but decoding H264 is ... heavy ;-) [17:17] chee: so what do u use instead? [17:17] rogersman: nothing [17:18] rogersman: hmm [17:18] rogersman: if you autograb a swf file from most of those players [17:18] Im not sure i could go without my daily fix of wfgo.net [17:18] you'll end up with not a movie [17:18] Camarade_Tux, that's why the h264 decoding is supposed to be done BEFORE it hits your browser [17:18] rogersman: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446?src=api ??? [17:18] but with a movie playing application [17:18] .swf [17:18] rogersman: try that: load the websites, start the video, pause it, now, see in /tmp/, do you have a file named FlashSOMETHING? 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[17:18] Necos: you can't decode before the browser? :o [17:19] what you want is something like that link mrselfpwn just used [17:19] that's exactly what a frameserver does Camarade_Tux :P [17:19] virtualdub proved this many times before [17:19] Camarade_Tux: yes, i can wait until its finished buffering, then load in mplayer, but just wondering if I could skip the waiting part ;-) [17:19] for youtube, there's a handy script called youtube-dl [17:19] it won't let you play it while it downloads thouhg [17:19] rogersman: mplayer /tmp/Flash* [17:19] :P [17:19] s/hg/gh/ [17:19] good night [17:19] or maybe mrselfpwn's add-on if it works [17:19] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-66-246.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware ("#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)"). [17:20] Action: rogersman looking at addon [17:20] i was going to suggest gnash , but then i recalled he wanted something that would take less system resources [17:20] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-13.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:20] metrofox: gnash is useless ... [17:20] grrr wrong nick sorry [17:20] Necos: the flash plugin has to decode otherwise you don't save any bandwith :o [17:20] Action: chee fox [17:20] lol [17:20] chee: that was for you :P [17:20] nash works better now [17:20] gnash isn't useless, deco! you cruel rabbi! [17:21] ah deco :P [17:21] metrofox: sorry :P [17:21] metrofox: you're not even wanted go away [17:21] your tab fails -.- [17:21] :D <3 [17:21] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.158.207) joined ##slackware. [17:21] chee: are you a nice cat ? [17:21] Action: chee purrs [17:21] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:21] Action: deco hugs chee [17:21] Action: chee =^.^= [17:21] Hokie888 (n=Adam@c-98-249-6-207.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] Action: chee lights up a sherlock holmes pipe and wanders off into the garden to find some cream [17:22] has gnash even gotten to the point where it can play the silly animations from homestarrunner.com? [17:22] lol [17:22] I have to use flashplayer 9 to play a certain poker game. [17:22] microphone check 1-2 1-2 [17:23] Flash 10 won't even work in FF though oddly 10 will work in Seamonkey. [17:23] Necos: here, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/status.html [17:23] I had forgotten to paste it :D [17:23] r--t (n=andy@ppp079166051107.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Camarade_Tux, i already looked it up ya dink [17:23] lol dink [17:23] he ;) [17:23] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: "leaving" [17:23] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:23] mrselfpwn: hm? I'm using flash 10 in FF on slack64, it needs a bit of a dirty hack if you have an old amd64 though [17:24] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] arda (n=arda@88.230.215.87) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Urchlay: I'm on 32bit. it's just one game that doesn't work right with flash 10 in FF [17:24] ah [17:24] hi [17:25] I messaged the developers of the game and they don't support linux. [17:25] about the only flash game I ever play is "crazy chess", and it works fine [17:25] they shouldn't have to "support linux", flash is flash [17:25] I said well, i expect support for supporting your sponsors. [17:25] arda (n=arda@88.230.215.87) left irc: Client Quit [17:25] flash 10 works fine, what are you talking about? >.> [17:25] I mean I hate it, but it's supposed to be cross-platform like the JVM [17:25] They told me to erase my broswer cache. bah [17:26] Necos: it's just one game it doesn't work with in FF [17:26] y0 mrselfpwn [17:26] Urchlay: mostly [17:26] oddly though mozilla's seamonkey plays it fine with flash 10. [17:26] fire|bird: y0 [17:26] mrselfpwn: I wonder if that game works with flash10 in ff on windows? [17:26] Urchlay: it does. [17:27] Urchlay: kongregate.com change a few things and now it makes firefox freeze for well over a minute [17:27] Camarade_Tux: lame [17:27] It doesn't work in Opera on Linux either. Not sure about windows opera. [17:27] but it's more a problem with javascript/networking [17:27] could be worse ... could be silverlight, sorry *moon*light ... barf [17:28] I guess I need to put in a bug with mozilla maybe. [17:28] have to email this lady about the SVG-based survey she wants to do on Wednesday and say "wtf bish, why you wanna use IE when FF already works?" [17:28] webkit \o/ [17:29] yes, let's code non-compliently for a non-compient browser. [17:29] FF doesn't use webkit >.> [17:29] webkit better :) [17:30] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:30] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.249) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:30] ok, webkit-gtk doesn't easily compiles on/for windows, but that's not a problem, it it? :D [17:30] webkit is not "better" >.> [17:30] different, yes, but better? nah... [17:30] it is :D [17:31] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A738A7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:31] it is a problem since 99% of our machines run windows :P [17:31] ok, better for CPU use, memory use, safety, support, quality of rendering [17:31] we have some fedora boxes for student / teacher use, but that's less than 1% [17:31] might be better for some points I'm not even aware exist [17:31] :) [17:31] Necos: I'll cross-compile you a webkit-gtk :P [17:32] and yes, i chose fedora for those boxen [17:32] konq uses webkit, right? [17:32] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.231) joined ##slackware. [17:32] nope [17:32] khtml [17:32] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.158) joined ##slackware. [17:32] can maybe use qtwebkit is available [17:32] *if [17:33] afaik it uses webkit for the newer versions [17:33] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.4.75) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:33] last time I heard about it, the merge was getting further and further away [17:33] fire|bird, I think it's higher-up-related :( [17:34] ah, webkit is what safari uses (that's what i was trying to remember) [17:34] Necos: konq doesn't use webkit, however, with some patches, etc. it can. Also, in the works is so konq can use/switch between khtml, gecko, webkit, etc. depending on which renders the page best. [17:34] jhw (n=jhw@p548F4887.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] also, did seamonkey finish? :) [17:34] thrice`: Well, I did send an e-mail to the maintainer of power manager, I shall see what I get for a response. [17:34] Note: To build midori, libsexy, libunique and webkit are required <---- LOL [17:35] sure [17:35] thrice`: yeah, and with the same error. :) [17:35] Action: thrice` wrote the webkit and midori slackbuilds :) [17:35] and now glib2-2.21.3 =/ [17:35] libsexy - Doing naughty things to good widgets. [17:35] webkit is a pain in the ass [17:35] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't use the slackbuilds but git [17:36] thrice`: why? [17:36] because it takes hours to compile :) [17:36] thrice`: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/pYQ0Ul30.html [17:36] ok, not hours I guess [17:36] hahaha [17:36] thrice`: not if you use make -j8 :) [17:36] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/webkit/ <---- you sure about that thrice`? >.> [17:36] thrice`: I'll be building a new machine, I'll give you an access so it compiles in 5-10 minutes ;-) [17:37] about what, Necos ? [17:37] thrice`: 40 minutes here [17:37] used to be 20 mins though [17:37] haha, perfect :) [17:37] he, the purpose of that machine is to compile ^^ [17:38] thrice`: the slackbuilds.org page mentions alkos333 as a maintainer for the slackbuild [17:38] yes, alkos was crazy enough to take it over :) [17:38] ;p [17:39] # Copyright 2008 Andrew Brouwers [17:39] _marc` (n=marc@port-212-202-171-142.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:39] fire|bird, strange, I'll perhaps try seamonkey later tonight :) [17:40] thrice`: cool. I tried --disable-ldap, just for fun, and, well, it was a failure. SeaMonkey would start, but wouldn't load a thing. :P [17:40] the ebuild from gento doesn't seem to require anything too exotic for 2.0 [17:40] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.4) joined ##slackware. [17:44] fire|bird, you could, maybe, try without the irc client and see it it gets any further [17:44] have you tried -j1, too? sometimes moz. items can be fragile regarding multiple jobs [17:45] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [17:46] thrice`, it says it's maintained by alkos333, so you handed the slackbuild over thrice`? [17:46] thrice`: I wasn't able to find the option to pass to disable chatzilla. [17:46] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-100.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] --disable-irc or something fire|bird [17:46] Necos, yep, for it and midori [17:47] ah, ok [17:47] fire|bird: on zsh? [17:47] Camarade_Tux: yup [17:47] Necos: tried that [17:47] "./configure --" then :P [17:48] hm, there is surely a way, but gentoo's ebuild is too cryptic [17:48] MEXTENSIONS="${MEXTENSIONS},-irc" [17:48] obviously that doesn't translate well :) [17:49] Camarade_Tux: That doesn't do anything. :P [17:49] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-25-214.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:49] ='( [17:49] yeah, i think i'm gonna stay away from webkit tho :) [17:49] Action: Camarade_Tux blame it on mozilla [17:50] "23:49 Ephedrax < [n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-25-214.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] quits ["Lost terminal"]" [17:50] LOL! [17:50] "ta_maman" translate to "your_mother" :P [17:50] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:50] --disable-chatzilla ? [17:50] tried that too. [17:50] I looked through ./configure --help [17:50] what are you building? seamonkey? [17:50] fire|bird: "vim configure" =) [17:51] Necos: yep [17:51] please, just grep -i 'chatzilla' configure [17:51] mannynix (i=mannynix@200.77.122.217) joined ##slackware. [17:51] what's the err? [17:51] Necos: done that already, returns nothing. [17:51] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.4) left irc: "used jmIrc" [17:51] Camarade_Tux: in zshrc? [17:52] doh! nvm [17:52] `brandon` (n=WHY@cpe-76-168-77-22.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:52] hmmm, god turned up the brightness control for the moon [17:52] lol [17:52] maybe add "ac_add_options --disable-chatzilla [17:52] maybe add "ac_add_options --disable-chatzilla" to your mozconfig [17:52] fire|bird: nah, have a look at the build system and find out by yourself :D [17:52] Necos: you'd know if you paid attention :P http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/pYQ0Ul30.html [17:53] <`brandon`> how do i un tar.gz a file? [17:53] tar xf ? [17:53] i was too busy working on my .conkyrc fire|bird [17:53] :) [17:54] sadly, conky really sucks for horizontal layouts... [17:54] i got it workin kinda tho :) [17:54] brandin tar xzf file.tar.gz [17:54] didn't you see the linky earlier? :) [17:54] Necos: your .conkyrc is horrible, right? [17:54] like everything on a few lines? [17:54] it's not pretty, but it works :) [17:55] fire|bird, maybe it really needs its won nss / nspr [17:55] Natenom_ (n=Natenom@xdsl-87-79-182-132.netcologne.de) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Natenom_ (n=Natenom@xdsl-87-79-182-132.netcologne.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:55] but, I would have thought configure would complain before make in that case [17:56] http://www.pastebin.ca/1653790 [17:56] http://omploader.org/vMm9sNA/slack.jpg [17:56] :) [17:56] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Necos mine is 3 lines, it's horrible, full of gotos [17:58] but look at the layout :) it's nice [17:58] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:58] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders if most people check their top cpu-eating processes to see if a transfer over usb is over... [17:59] Necos: yup :) [17:59] haha [17:59] thrice`: Well, anything is possible. :P [17:59] it's a WIP, but yeah, it's pretty [17:59] Action: chee miro fails [17:59] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.221.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:59] 'ImportError on widgets: No module named widgets [18:00] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:00] and if you notice Camarade_Tux, the sections are labeled ya dink :) [18:00] so there's no confusion (but i guess if you can't read...) [18:00] Necos: here, now make this conky. http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7346/45032462wb2.gif :P [18:02] ewwwww [18:02] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird 30 times [18:03] i don't necessarily have a problem with ubuntu... well, actually, i do, but anyway... that shit is WAY too hard to make a conkyrc for :P [18:03] vhann (n=vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:03] Action: Camarade_Tux stabs fire|bird 10 times [18:03] kitche_ (n=kitche@66.111.62.170) joined ##slackware. [18:03] makes that 40 :) [18:04] Necos: label the sections? that wastes space? [18:04] s/?$// [18:04] I have 1280*800 pixels, not going to waste them [18:04] i have a 1280x1024 desktop, space isn't a problem :P [18:04] Can anyone tell me if it's normal that 'glxinfo' outputs no 'direct rendering' line? [18:04] glxinfo does, i thought... [18:04] vhann: which hardware? which graphic driver in use? [18:05] Camarade_Tux: an Intel chipset [18:05] it is normal if there is no direct rendering available [18:05] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] It's not that direct rendering isn't available [18:05] nah, if there's no direct rendering available, it's supposed to say "Direct rendering: no" [18:05] you running slack 13? have you updated mesa from patches/ yet? [18:06] it depends on the version, sometimes it says "renderer string" or whatever [18:06] I am running 13.0, haven't update anything [18:06] GL_VERSION: 1.4 Mesa 7.5 [18:06] what's the one in patches? [18:06] and direct rendering: (Yes|No) [18:06] I have 2.1 Mesa 7.5 [18:06] right, the mesa that ships with 13, its glxinfo command doesn't output the "direct rendering" string at all. The one in patches/ does... [18:06] oh, I had misread your question [18:07] Action: Camarade_Tux blames it on his glasses, dirty [18:07] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-3413d2a720a758a0) left irc: "Page closed" [18:07] compile-time misconfigure? [18:07] Is there a fast way to benchmark my GPu? [18:08] glxgears outputs a normal frames number [18:08] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [18:08] vhann, play a game with fps tracking :P [18:08] hey, mancha: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip_fil5.1.0_RC1.tar.gz [18:08] Yet, a game I play is really slow [18:09] So I'm wondering if I didn't break something in the laptop [18:09] Since it used to play very smoothly [18:09] Urch, 5.x doesn't compile at all not on .31.x or earlier :( [18:10] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.80.127.250) left irc: "leaving" [18:10] doesn't compile for me either, but mainly it's failing on md5.c (why it needs its own md5 implementation, I dunno) [18:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] LnxSlck (i=1000@188.140.82.92) joined ##slackware. [18:11] if you ever get the 4.x working on .31.x let me know, i've sort of tabled my snooping (too much on my plate right now) [18:11] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:11] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.181.72) left irc: "+-||\-" [18:11] lazy bastard that I am, I probably won't be upgrading to .31.x until Pat does [18:12] it probably just imports code from md5.h and makes some specific functions that do somethin with the md5s [18:12] r--t (n=andy@ppp079166051107.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:12] like md5_double or something where it processes two md5s at once :P [18:12] thrice`: AH HA, --enable-extensions=default,irc \ <----I'll try removing irc. [18:12] Necos: it looks like a full implementation... can't remember the compile error now (was over 24 hours ago, it's expired from my brain-cache) [18:13] ah ok. well i might have a patch first then, in which case i'll let you know [18:13] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:13] hahaha ok Urchlay [18:13] What's the URI for the official Slackware patches directory? [18:13] there are many of them [18:13] vhann: any slackware mirror has patches/ [18:14] patches in any mirror [18:14] mancha: ultimate goal here is to get ipf working on slack 13, 32 and 64 bit, and submit to SBo. Currently it actually does work on 32-bit (if you use the .29.6 kernel that slack13 comes with) [18:14] mancha: Yeah, well I'd prefer to get something directly from slackware.com or referred from them [18:15] why bog down the primary source? [18:15] vhann: that's what those .asc files are for (GPG signatures) [18:15] gapan (n=gapan@adsl36-105.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving." [18:15] mirrors carry the sigs, it's not like they'll trojan you [18:15] if the signature checks out OK, you can trust the file [18:16] jeff__ (n=jeff@bzq-79-177-72-9.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:16] or you can trust that it #1 came from pat or #2 came from the black hat who m-i-t-m'd you while you thought you were dl'ing his public key [18:16] right, nothing's ever perfect [18:16] doesn't slackpkg support gpg sig verification? [18:16] it does [18:17] there you go. even easier [18:17] so now the question is...do you trust pat? if yes, are you sure it is *his* public key you have? if you answered no toeither of those questions, rinse and repeat [18:18] Well, I guess I'll just have a talk with my friend Google about signature files and all [18:18] if you don't trust pat, better quit running slackware [18:18] yeah, good idea [18:19] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] google is a smart dude [18:19] lol [18:19] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.221.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:20] i think google's a pretty cool guy eh answers my questions and does't afraid of anything [18:20] How do you know google is a dude? :P [18:20] because that eric guy said so [18:20] Otherwise it would call itself booble [18:20] haha [18:21] booble boobies could be fun... [18:21] i have noticed that google gives me slightly erratic search results about once a month [18:21] Action: mancha ducks [18:21] lol [18:21] $ pom [18:21] The Moon is Full [18:21] That would explain it [18:22] / [18:22] so, are you saying it's female, or that it's a werewolf? [18:22] (or both? a werebitch?) [18:22] that it's a female werewolf >.> [18:22] maybe its a wolfwere [18:22] a wolfe that becomes a human a few days in any moon [18:22] or a shewold? [18:22] shewolf [18:22] Now try "pom -d 3321" and get some howling references [18:22] wouldn't that just be a hairy bitch? >.> [18:23] Action: Necos ducks [18:23] petslack (n=petslack@201-43-52-174.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:24] alienBOB, ? [18:24] i think it's a search engine guys [18:24] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.7) joined ##slackware. [18:24] slackytude|evil: ?? [18:24] isolated (n=isolated@unaffiliated/isolated) joined ##slackware. [18:24] The Moon is Full\nI saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by [18:24] Indeed [18:24] Now go booble [18:24] no howling there, not even a complete line of lyrics... [18:24] Action: chee lols@urchlay [18:25] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:25] wtf is the point of the -d option [18:26] "pom -d 2" is showing: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (99.97% of Full) [18:26] without -d it's showing full [18:26] it is the number of sig digits in the decimal [18:26] 3321 seems to just be an easter egg [18:26] Indeed [18:26] I suppose if you're a werewolf, you need more digits of precision, so you can know down to the minute when you'll change [18:27] lol [18:27] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:27] pom recognizes 3321 as being within reasonable limits. [18:27] "I won't change for 20 more minutes, I got time to watch the rest of the ball game with Dad" [18:27] http://slackware.wordpress.com/2006/09/09/slackware-changelog-september-9th/ has the changelog entry for this pom patch [18:27] if you're off by 10 minutes, whoops! [18:27] it's an inhouse patch? [18:27] man, there is so much weird stuff in linux. [18:28] Yes [18:28] you dont notice it for yeas [18:28] It has a special meaning to the slackware team [18:28] any particular significance to "3321" [18:28] Yes [18:28] until someone points it out to you [18:28] sw team are beats ? [18:29] How do I check GPG signatures of mirrors? I mean, I need a genuine GPG file to begin with, right? [18:29] you need pat's public key, do we stutter? :) [18:29] vhann: right, you need to make sure the signature you import is the correct one [18:29] google "checking gpg signatures" [18:29] vhann, tried slackpkg ? [18:29] vhann, it automates all that [18:29] slackytude|evil: I don't want to use slackpkg, I use Slackware not Debian or Fedora for a reason ;) [18:30] slackpkg's way of importing gpg keys isn't really secure enough for the paranoid: it gets the key from the same mirror it's getting files from, and it blindly trusts it [18:30] then you should get up on speed on GPG,I guess [18:30] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] get his key, it's on his site around the security announcements, save it to pat.pub, then gpg --import pat.pub or summit [18:30] Urchlay, only on the first time,tho [18:30] vhann slackpkg is the same thing as downloading the package and running installpkg >.> [18:31] slackytude|evil: right, but if it imports a bogus key the first time, that's all it needs [18:31] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:31] ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/GPG-KEY <<- always a valid URL [18:31] Necos: maybe, but then why not simply dl and installpkg the package yourself? [18:32] mancha: Thanks, I search around for Pat's GPG sign [18:32] isolated (n=isolated@unaffiliated/isolated) left ##slackware. [18:32] alienBOB: why does the pom easter egg only have 1 line of lyrics? (that *is* from a They Might Be Giants song, isn't it?) [18:32] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:32] it's Libra [18:32] Urchlay, true enough. you can still import the key from a trusted key before you run slackpgk. it will respect it [18:32] since it uses gpg anyway [18:32] Urchlay: wrong [18:32] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] well TMBG has a song that quotes whatever the original source is, anyway... [18:33] It is from a poet called HOWL by Allen Ginsberg [18:33] s/poet/poem/ [18:33] ah. [18:33] madness is missing [18:34] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:34] know who Ginsberg is, but never read much poetry [18:36] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:37] giros (n=quassel@81.18.115.130) joined ##slackware. [18:38] Ok, I'm lost here: I found this mirror: http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware/patches/ which, from what I understand will allow me to check every file I dl using md5sums and, I can check their md5sum file using the GPG signature file for the md5sum file. [18:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:38] But what if I don't trust the site in the first place? [18:38] you have pat's public gpg by now, which you *do* trust [18:39] vhann: get the GPG key from ftp.slackware.com [18:39] I found "slackware GPG signature" file [18:40] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] Oh well, based on what you tell me, I guess there must be a problem with my GPG installation as I can't verify files with it [18:40] eh? what are you trying and what's it doing? [18:40] Action: thrice` has never checked a package signature in the 5 years of using slackware [18:40] it's kinda the first line of the poem as it's normally printed, even though the real first line is about 6 of the lines as it is normally printed [18:40] I'm trying 'gpg --verify [signature] file' [18:41] And it tells me there's a problem with my gnupg directory [18:41] thrice`: i plan to use that information against you [18:41] vhann: did you import Slackware's GPG-KEY first? [18:41] go for it :) [18:41] wget ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/patches/packages/xpdf-3.02pl4-x86_64-1_slack13.0.txz ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/patches/packages/xpdf-3.02pl4-x86_64-1_slack13.0.txz.asc [18:41] alienBOB: So I can't just verify a file on the go, I need to import the signature beforehand, right? [18:41] once you figure out how to mirror malicious packages to my mirror of choice (osuosl or so), it'll nail me [18:42] gpg --verify xpdf-3.02pl4-x86_64-1_slack13.0.txz.asc [18:42] not going to paste the 5 lines of output from that [18:42] vhann, there are official key servers [18:42] giros (n=quassel@81.18.115.130) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - 073>20@820BL C4>1=>. 5745."). [18:42] vhann, from which you can get keys [18:43] vhann: $ ls -al ~ | grep .gnupg [18:43] drwx------ 3 alien base 4096 2009-11-03 00:25 .gnupg/ [18:43] can even let gpg import the key from the keyserver for you, if you have the key ID [18:43] I.e. watch your .gnupg 's directory permissions [18:43] gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 0x40102233 or summit [18:44] yup [18:44] alienBOB: Yeah, that's what I was about to ask. I used to share my /home with my first Linux installation (Ubuntu) [18:45] So I guess that's why my .gnupg directory is owned by root:root [18:45] if you don't use gpg for anything else, "rm -rf ~/.gnupg" and let gpg recreate it for you [18:45] and it also explains the difficulty you're having groking gpg (j/k) [18:46] ah, that was too easy a shot at ubuntu...i disappoint myself [18:47] archiac (n=dscott@70-88-181-197-Atlanta.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:48] vhann, these commands you've been given work, if you're interested you should google pki a bit more to understand why and how it works [18:49] Alright, I backed my .gnupg folder and let gnupg recreate it [18:49] hey fire|bird :) [18:49] kitche_ (n=kitche@66.111.62.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:50] i got the proc info aligned now... [18:51] http://omploader.org/vMm9tbg/slack.jpg [18:54] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Necos: cool. [18:54] mannynix (i=mannynix@200.77.122.217) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:55] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-60-152.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:55] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] greetings and salutations [18:55] greetings andarius, how are you? [18:55] wotcha andarius :) [18:56] heya andarius [18:56] mancha: I believe I understand the Public Key Infrastructure and all, I just don't get how the whole thing helps if I don't trust the issuer to begin with [18:56] <`brandon`> what version of slack do i get? [18:56] <`brandon`> i run a 32 bit but i don't know what [18:57] <`brandon`> to choose. [18:57] the issuer is pat, if you don't trust him then you're not gonna get far [18:57] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] `brandon`: 13.0 [18:57] salutations fire|bird, i am well. you? [18:57] wotcha BP{k} :) [18:57] salutations Necos [18:57] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:57] andarius: great, thank you. :) [18:57] might as well dl source and do strictly local compiles (not a bad idea anyways). then you have the problem of trusting a) the devs of that software and b) your gcc package [18:57] vhann: maybe you could drive to pat's house and ask him for his GPG public key in person? if not, eh, you gotta deal with less-than-perfect circumstances [18:58] `brandon`: you can always do "cat /etc/slackware-verison" to see what you are currently running. [18:58] <`brandon`> :// [18:58] <`brandon`> i wan't to get slackware. [18:58] mancha: How can you tell what is on this site: http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware/patches/ is all Pat stuff? [18:59] there's also a web of trust, people sign a person's sig, if you trust the signers of that person's sig then the trust level increases etc [18:59] vhann: I tell you what though. Grab the key from ftp.slackware.com, use it to very packages downloaded from there and from about 30 different mirror sites. If they all validate, there's a damn good chance that everything's fine, and you should take your medication and stop being so paranoid [18:59] vhann: d/l the keys from slckware.com and check each package [18:59] vhann, for the 3rd time, because you are checking that suff against PAT's public key [18:59] vhann, if you have to ask, you're better off not trying [18:59] s/very/verify/ [18:59] maybe you should check md5 sums and be done with it [19:00] `brandon`: if you want to *get* slackware, download slackware-13.0 [19:00] vhann: sounds like you want lfs [19:00] <`brandon`> i see alot of DIR do i go threw all the dir to get all the files or is there a iso image? [19:00] `brandon`: there's iso images [19:01] grab the cd images or the dvd image [19:01] you best download the DVD or CD iso images [19:01] <`brandon`> where can i find that. [19:01] pick a mirror and folow the iso link [19:01] or click on get slack and d/l using torrent [19:01] for example: ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/ [19:02] thrice`: well, that failed, STILL got the ldappr.h error. :P [19:03] ../../../../mozilla/dist/include/system_wrappers/ldappr.h:3:25: error: ldappr.h: No such file or directory [19:04] gnight slackers [19:04] night slackytude|evil [19:04] o/ [19:04] later slackytude|evil [19:04] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A76D83.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:05] When I look in /tmp/comm-1.9.1/mozilla/dist/include/system_wrappers, ldappr.h is there. [19:05] are you running the compile as root btw? [19:05] Necos: yeah [19:06] It looks in ../../../../mozilla, I think that it's cd'ing back to many dir's. :/ [19:07] but I could be wrong, I don't know. [19:07] oh sick... i got everything aligned now :) [19:07] I'm lost. [19:07] `brandon`: also .. perhaps start with reading the good book @ http://slackbook.org and also http://slackbasics.org .. they will undoubtedly help [19:08] now the final screenshot :) [19:10] http://omploader.org/vMm9tcw/slack.jpg <--- with everything lined up [19:10] dngr (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:11] dngr- (n=dngr@n11649135131.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [19:11] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:11] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [19:11] Necos: nice. Nice background also. [19:11] i got it from desktopography.net IIRC [19:12] thanks :) [19:12] Necos: hmmm what WM is that ? [19:12] openbox with tint2 [19:12] Necos: :o [19:13] <3 openbox [19:13] necos, got enough HD space? [19:13] no :) [19:14] the mass storage section only reports usb devices when mounted, / when not [19:14] one cannever have enough HD [19:14] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] it looks sweet, the 2 gigs of ram stands out as a sore thumb though [19:15] now that i've sorta figured out how to get things the way i want to, i can add more info if i want :) [19:16] also, with an 80gig root drive, why'd you skimp on swap (387mb??) [19:16] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:16] it started out as an experiment to see if i could get my conky setup to go horizontal (and it was a PITA) [19:16] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@p5DC305AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [19:16] i rarely use it (notice the 33% util) [19:17] you just inspired me to set up my conky for the first time, necos [19:18] lol cool :) [19:18] Necos != inspirational. :P [19:18] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC305AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:18] fire|bird, says you :P [19:18] hater [19:18] lol [19:18] stop drinkin that haterade :P [19:18] Action: fire|bird turns Necos into a SeaMonkey [19:18] Nick change: kleanchap_ -> kleanchap [19:19] Action: Necos is immune to suck parlor tricks [19:19] :P [19:19] Monkey Sea, Monkey Do, it won't build for me, how about you? [19:19] :D [19:19] lol [19:19] where'd you get the source from? [19:19] seamonkey-project.org [19:19] errr, brainfart, build script [19:19] chee got it to build *without* the slackbuild. [19:20] buld script is on the slack mirrors, xap/ [19:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [19:20] 64bit? [19:20] Action: Necos is on 32bit [19:20] 32 or 64, it won't build on either for me. [19:21] Urchlay: mancha: Ok, I *THINK* I got it now: if I 'gpg --verify file.asc file', it can't work, unless I have already imported a matching signature for that 'asc' file, right? [19:21] right [19:21] Ahhh, it all makes sense now :) [19:21] That's the part I didn't understand hence my "craziness" [19:22] eh, well, it'll "work" in the sense that it'll say it couldn't verify the signature (which would be exactly what you wanted, if the file were signed with a fake key) [19:22] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.7) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:23] `brandon` (n=WHY@cpe-76-168-77-22.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:24] Urchlay: So, if I verify file 'foo' with the key of John Doe (who rightfully signed foo) but I don't have John's signature imported beforehand, gpg will tell me it can't verify the signature? [19:24] correct [19:25] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] `brandon` (n=WHY@cpe-76-168-77-22.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:25] Ok, thank you alot on this guys [19:25] the asc file is created with a private key that only that person should have [19:25] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:25] at least, we hope :) [19:25] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] you grab their public key, and if anything has changed when you use the public key or the public key is missing, then the gpg check will fail [19:26] hey nix_chix0r [19:26] but doesn't slackpkg already do that? >.> [19:26] hmmm, 1MB/s off mozilla.org... this is a first [19:26] lol [19:27] yes, by default slackpkg checks keys. this can however be disabled easily [19:28] urban (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:28] urban3 (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [19:28] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] well, for system packages, i'd think you want it enabled :) [19:29] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:30] considering it is simple, fast and efficient i would want it for all packages for which i could have it [19:30] / [19:30] \ [19:30] hey fire|bird, you've already patched up your slackbuild for the directory changes? [19:31] Necos: Just that it's cd comm-1.9.1 now instead of cd mozilla, and then the version # of course. [19:31] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [19:32] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:32] epaphus (n=unix3@201.199.62.74) joined ##slackware. [19:32] not if you're using the plugin patch >.> [19:32] chee__ (n=chatzill@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:32] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-100.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "so many assholes, so few bullets..." [19:32] Necos: plugin patch isn't needed [19:32] whew [19:32] ah [19:33] i lost the internet there for a while [19:33] it was scary as hell [19:33] Oh, wait, if you are going to try it, libpng needs to be patched. :P [19:33] the worst ten seconds of my life [19:33] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:33] lol what about libpng is broken? :P [19:33] chee__: you were gone? Hmm, didn't even notice. :P [19:33] Necos: no apng support [19:33] which 2.0 now needs [19:34] what about upgrading to the latest libpng? [19:34] what about using the seamonkey libpng? [19:34] slack has 1.2.37, latest is 1.2.40, patch is needed for either. [19:34] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [19:35] neonflux: that may be possible if it was built with the binary, but slack's slackbuild uses the source to build from. [19:35] can just --without-system-png [19:35] Necos: Could do that, yes. You may not have png support in SeaMonkey though, fwiw. [19:35] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] ok, that worked [19:36] hi. is possible to define the pt_BR lang for mozilla-firefox package? the default language of the mozilla-firefox is english [19:36] hi, can i play a midi file with a full installation of slackware 13, from the dvd? [19:36] fire|bird: there is a note in the Slackware64 mozilla-firefox slackbuild that comments on apng support [19:36] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/source/xap/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox.SlackBuild [19:36] LnxSlck (i=1000@188.140.82.92) left irc: "Saindo" [19:37] oh wow, -j8 makes my little dual core cry :) [19:37] neonflux: I just built FF the other day, to get 3.5.4, which slack now released today. :) and it didn't complain about apng at all, howeverm with seamonkey, it stops the build if apng isn't there. [19:38] Necos: I have a P4 3.2Ghz and I use -j8 all the time. [19:38] Action: chee__ cries into his soup [19:38] damn monkeys :| [19:38] lol [19:38] then again, it might be the 70 other FF tabs i have open :) [19:38] I compiled icecat over the weekend and it did complain about apng support (basically gnu firefox) [19:38] haha [19:38] blkdg: You mean playing a MIDI file from a DVD under default Slackware? Or playing a MIDI file while booted on the Slackware install DVD? [19:39] neonflux: Aside from different branding, is icecat any different, have any benefits. I haven't really read about it. [19:39] # 2 vhann [19:39] fire|bird:it suppose to have extra privacy features...but really I don't know...just wanted to check it out [19:39] blkdg: slackware install cd/dvd is an _install_ setup, not a livecd [19:40] alisonken1home, i know it's installed :) [19:40] neonflux: ok :) [19:40] chee___ (n=chatzill@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] your comment to vhann made it seem like you were asking about booting from the dvd and playing a midi file [19:41] i've played this file before in slack 11.x - 12.2 but i don't remember how or what i used. all i know is that kde4 dosn't seem to have built in support for it, or i just don't see it. [19:41] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:41] i don't anything about apng in the slackbuild >.> [19:41] blkdg: `apropos MIDI` tells me you can use the 'aplaymidi' command to play a MIDI file [19:42] neonflux: looks intriguing enough, I'm going to give it a try. [19:42] no, i have slack 64 13.0 installed + alien's multilib support ready to go. i want to undersand why OO.org will not play my avi or midi files in a presentation. it was able to do this in slack 12.x and OO.org 2.x [19:42] thanks vhann will try [19:42] fire|bird: good luck [19:43] neonflux: thanks. It looks like the extra privacy features are an .xpi, so technically could be installed as an addon to FF. [19:43] yup [19:43] well, i did --without-system-png and it's chugging away happy as a schoolgirl [19:44] neonflux: Ah, I know why FF didn't complain, because I patched libpng for Seamonkey to have apng support. :P [19:44] lol [19:44] :) [19:44] Action: fire|bird facepalms [19:44] Action: Necos assists fire|bird with a headdesk [19:45] vhann, the aplaymidi wants a port number, and 0 doesn't work. thanks anyhow [19:45] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:46] blkdg: I have no idea, I just typed 'apropos MIDI' in a xterm [19:46] ok, thanks anyhow [19:46] Check the manpage for the command, that might hel [19:46] s/hel/help [19:46] chee (n=chatzill@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:46] hrm.. it appears after the latest -current updates to the latest kde4.. icons are missing on the Kmenu etc [19:47] did it install oxygen-icons? [19:47] has anyone had success in embedding a video in OO.org Impress 3.1 ? [19:47] again? icons - the gremlins of KDE [19:47] vhann, i looked at the manpage and the client bit is unclear. [19:47] Necos: good point let me look [19:48] Dominian: Many have had that issue, has to do with mime info or something. [19:48] However, I thought there was an update that fixed that. [19:48] oxygen-icons wasn't installed [19:48] lol [19:48] :) [19:48] Action: Dominian checks the changelog [19:49] thanks again [19:49] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:49] fire|bird knows my pain with building KDE by hand :) [19:49] kdelibs-experimental added as well [19:49] yep [19:49] Dominian: yeah, 4.3.x some things were spit off into their own packages. [19:49] they were seperated from the main packages into their own subpackages [19:49] split* [19:50] brb [19:50] ahh much better [19:50] damn, i really don't feel like driving an hr to class... rather just go home and study for my midterm on thursday [19:50] fire|bird: yeah.. /me fail for not paying attention to the changelog [19:51] bbl [19:51] ok, this is retarded... i need to close tabs now :) [19:52] lol [19:52] Necos: Just close FF altogether. :P [19:53] i actually have more than 70 tabs open... holy shit >.> [19:54] holy..... [19:54] how much ram is it using? [19:55] chee__ (n=chatzill@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:55] 14%? [19:55] that's not much [19:55] oh no, it's each of the j8s of seamonkey's build that's fucking up my computer :P [19:56] haha [19:56] core 1 and core 2 are @100% [19:56] lol [19:56] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:56] soptecpe (n=alex@187.146.113.191) joined ##slackware. [19:57] hahaha [19:57] Action: fire|bird waits to hear *KABOOM* [19:57] well, you're not :P [19:58] lol [19:59] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8CEC2.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:00] petslack (n=petslack@201-43-52-174.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [20:01] hello all you happy people [20:01] and all the dipshits who refuse to admit their true happiness [20:03] >.> [20:03] congrats? [20:04] ah, yours failed on the nsLDAPService.cpp stuff fire|bird ? [20:05] Necos: yeah [20:07] soptecpe (n=alex@187.146.113.191) left irc: "Leaving" [20:07] and you're right, it's going back up one too many directories [20:08] \o/ [20:08] cd comm-1.9.1/directory/xpcom/base/src/ and then do find ../../../ -iname "ldap*.h" [20:08] ../../../c-sdk/ldap/include/ldappr.h [20:10] so the Makefile needs to be patched to find the file in the right place [20:10] my guess is that needs to be reported >.> [20:12] Thanks for building it Necos. :) [20:12] ruben231 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [20:12] isn't this a beta tho? [20:13] nope [20:13] 2.0 is stable [20:13] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:14] in fact, if you goto the seamonkey page on any browser before 2.0 [20:14] they shout at you ! [20:14] Nick change: chee___ -> chee [20:15] chee: haha, yeah. You're not using the latest version. :P [20:15] i wasn't, one time [20:15] those were darker days [20:15] would you like tosee my conky [20:16] sure, whatcha got? [20:16] screenshot :P [20:17] Conky Setups: Necos vs. chee.....Round 1 [20:17] fire|bird, got it built? [20:17] thrice`: seamonkey? nope, fails, fails, fails. [20:17] first i have to learn to take a screenshot on fluxbox [20:17] a full sized one [20:17] thrice`: Necos has confirmed that it is going back one to many dirs to find ldappr.h [20:18] chee, import -window root ss.png [20:19] fire|bird, new kde today, too :) [20:19] thrice`: :O [20:19] I've been so consumed by seamonkey I hadn't noticed. [20:19] :) [20:20] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.11) joined ##slackware. [20:20] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] haha seamonkey [20:20] ruben231 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:20] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [20:20] vastina: it's driven me crazy the past few days, it is NOT a laughing matter. :P [20:21] excuse me fire|bird [20:21] :D [20:22] i usually just skip installing it altogether [20:22] :) [20:22] lol [20:22] haha, nice firefox ./configure option: --enable-leaky Build leaky memory tool [20:22] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:23] give me lean [lynx] or give me fat bloat [firefox for over multimedia] [20:23] ooh good option [20:23] ok, time for class, later folks [20:23] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-114-154.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] thrice`: ! thankyou, do you also know how to change the default terminal and browser in fluxbox?! [20:24] later Necos [20:24] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Action: vastina <3s what firefox' "leaky memory" does to kernel32 endies [20:24] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [20:24] WAIT NECOS [20:24] http://bayimg.com/iAEakaacL [20:25] fire|bird: is my conky [20:25] look how cute ! [20:25] also note discordian & subgenius references and be awed [20:26] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:29] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:30] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-114-154.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.3.1" [20:32] chee: http://omploader.org/vMmV0NA [20:32] I'M SCARED OF THE DARK [20:33] though that image is not most recent [20:33] chee: Then don't turn out the lights [20:33] i like your desktop switcher :3 [20:33] My xfce is mostly plain atm, nothing fancy. [20:34] default theme, window decorations are the ones from xfce 4.4.x [20:34] i'm boring [20:35] RedSocrates (n=RedSocra@cpe-69-207-175-250.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:36] wth [20:37] no, we wont argue that [20:37] seamonkey claims that I have visited omploader.org twice before today [20:37] but i've never done it in my life [20:37] :l [20:37] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.38) joined ##slackware. [20:37] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] fire|bird: when you eat chocolate rolls, which side do you start from? [20:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-2-9.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] I must have joined the wrong channel, who remapped #slackware to #two-girls-one-cup ? [20:39] lol [20:39] Action: chee is jealous of andarius's workspace switcher [20:40] chee: I don't really eat any chocolate/sweets/candy/ [20:40] chee: jealous? Then switch to xfce. :) [20:40] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:40] chee: that is a compaonent of the defualt xfce [20:41] rly! i had never noticed it over there [20:41] andarius: Have you ever checked this forum out? http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=4420.0 Some nice ss's of xfce. [20:41] chee: andarious's ss isn't the default look of xfce though, he's changed the panel, etc. around/ [20:42] Xavier von Erck has attempted to control discussions on Wikipedia (a site that he was banned from) by using Wikisposure to make spurious allegations of pedophilia towards editors who he dislikes. Whilst there is no way of knowing for sure, it appears that these attacks have been somewhat successful, with some editors being banned from editing. [20:42] wow [20:42] thats desperate [20:42] Action: andarius changes many things :) [20:42] fire|bird: ive not, but i will now [20:43] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-26-30.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:43] they do seem to know an awful lot about child pornography over at wikipedia [20:43] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [20:43] wow i sjut realized this was the wrong terminal XD [20:43] but anyway [20:43] it is still sad that someone would do that [20:44] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:44] so naywho hows it going here over on slackwrre? [20:44] slackware* [20:44] this source is huge [20:44] whic [20:44] h [20:45] seamonkey :_ [20:45] it is indeed [20:45] thrice`: indeed, 57.x MB. :) [20:45] I compiled that last month [20:46] :D [20:46] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:46] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.11) left irc: "used jmIrc" [20:46] fire|bird: yes, some of those are nice. seems dominated by arch users though :( [20:47] i used arch it was alright but i came back to slackware [20:48] andarius: yeah, unfortunately so. :) [20:48] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-12-49.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:48] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-13.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-13.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:50] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-236.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:02] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:02] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC305AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:03] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-157-173.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] Heya,slackers....how's everyone? [21:04] -current needs a kick in the ass, I'm sick of "we're sorry, your libraries are too old" [21:05] MLanden: alive :) [21:05] lol......that bad,andarius? [21:06] no, not bad. alive is good last i checked [21:06] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F4AEC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] heya MLanden [21:06] heya,fire|bird [21:06] yes it is andarius...:P [21:08] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:10] Nick change: artv61 -> vantech1 [21:13] fire|bird: Been workin' on anything new? [21:16] MLanden: Been battling Seamonkey 2.0 :P [21:16] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] been messin' on and off with it...how's it treatin' you? [21:17] MLanden: Well, it won't build at all, so I've been using the binary of it. [21:17] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:17] fire|bird: same here [21:18] jhw (n=jhw@p548F4887.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:18] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] MLanden: it seems as though it's going back one to many dir's to find ldappr.h [21:19] fire|bird: it does have some glitches [21:19] andarius: http://omploader.org/vMm9ucQ [21:19] MLanden: It's been running great here, but just will not build. [21:20] Nick change: jhw_ -> jhw [21:21] fire|bird: well, good luck..at least,with the binary it hasn't crashed on ya..:P [21:21] How could I manually turn off a hard drive in software? [21:21] MLanden: no, it hasn't crashed or had any issues running. [21:21] so, that's a pluse. :P [21:22] plus* [21:22] farchanjo (n=Brazil@linux.fujb.ufrj.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:22] true...:D [21:22] ccfreak2k: hdparm is one way to do it [21:23] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:24] ccfreak2k: man hdparm [21:24] fire|bird: nice [21:24] i'd neevr seen that feature of fluxbox before, tabbing any windows. that's cool as [21:24] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:24] but it doesn't turn it off completely. it spins down only. once you use anything on that hdd, it'll spin up again [21:25] and there is no good reason to do that anyway. it's not healthy ~_~ [21:26] mako-sama, how about "because I'm booted from solid state storage on a laptop and don't have any intention on mounting the hard drive partitions"? [21:26] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [21:26] would it be okay to symlink /usr/games/, /usr/local/games, and /usr/share/games all to one directory? [21:27] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:28] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] paul424: elllo [21:29] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:29] how is it going on "Wroclaw Centre for Networking and Supercomputing" ? [21:29] i'm sure thet's cool. [21:29] RedSocrates (n=RedSocra@cpe-69-207-175-250.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:31] fire|bird, how long did yours take to fail ? [21:32] thrice`: quite a while, um, 30-45 minutes or so iirc. [21:32] `brandon` (n=WHY@cpe-76-168-77-22.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:35] chee (n=chatzill@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0/20091102025157]" [21:43] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:46] fire|bird, bummer, same death here [21:47] 3rd times the fail, you, Necos, and myself with the same issue. [21:48] It's going back to many dir's to find ldappr.h [21:48] thanks for trying it thrice` :) [21:49] hi to breslau, paul424 [21:49] pankaj (n=pjed@ppp-124-122-99-226.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [21:49] hello. [21:49] hi [21:50] anyone here ever made a IMPS server? [21:52] i am looking to construct one [21:53] fire|bird: http://omploader.org/vMm9ueQ [21:53] tonights ;) [21:54] cheetah [21:54] andarius: wow, that looks amazing. Awesome wallpaper. [21:54] yeah, good it is. [21:55] thanks :) [21:55] vhann (n=vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: "leaving" [21:55] but mine is bettah. [21:55] talkin' 'bout wallpaper...came 'cross this one http://abstract.desktopnexus.com/wallpaper/33596/ awesome site [21:56] andarius: awesome as always, what xfce theme is that? [21:56] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-236.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:56] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-190.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] awesome wallpaper,anadarius [21:58] any idea on IMPS server? [21:58] same as before, ashen II xfwm and a modified Overglossed gtk [21:58] 'imps'? [21:58] yes [21:58] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMA_Instant_Messaging_and_Presence_Service [21:59] ahh [21:59] http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6306/greenvistainhdbyinetgra.jpg i like that one [21:59] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F6159.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:02] Windmill windmill for the land..turn forever hand in hand...:P [22:02] lol [22:02] that pic is from somewhere in the Netherlands [22:03] \m/ O \m/ Gorillaz [22:03] wow i liek lxde [22:04] i'm running a live cd of debainw ith it on my spare laptop its pretty nice looking [22:04] that's what I'm usin' presently...cool,toastytoast [22:04] i've been useing lxterminal but i might install lxde now [22:05] altho i still like my fluxbox but lxde does look pretty nice [22:05] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:06] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] easy panel edit is a nice feature [22:08] which version of debian are you trying,toastytoast? [22:08] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:09] lenny whihc is the one that dls for the live cd off of lxde.org [22:09] cool [22:12] snL40 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [22:13] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-61-69-215-24.for.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:13] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:14] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-157-173.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:14] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-190-191-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-253-214.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] can anyone point me to a decent guide for getting mysql configured on slack before I shoot myself? [22:15] /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [22:15] read it [22:15] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-157-173.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] welcome back MLanden [22:16] thanks fire|bird [22:16] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-253-214.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:16] Switched it a bit now: http://omploader.org/vMm9vNg [22:17] andarius, I did [22:17] still doesn't make it star ttho [22:18] follow the instructions in it. then "chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld" then "/etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start" worked for me [22:20] fire|bird: how much of a lie is that picture ;) [22:20] lol [22:20] howdy BP{k}, how goes? [22:21] fire|bird: not bad :) [22:21] yourself? [22:21] I got that one, again, from interfacelift. It's from somewhere in the Netherlands, looks really nice. [22:21] I know where it is from.. ;) [22:21] BP{k}: great, thanks. [22:22] BP{k}: oh yeah, you've been to the Netherlands before, right? [22:22] but such a sky .. impossible in the netherlands ;) [22:22] andarius, this is what I get: /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password [22:22] fire|bird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinderdijk [22:22] fire|bird: thats his windmill, third from the left. :P [22:22] err [22:22] /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password [22:22] wtf [22:22] paste dammit [22:22] I think it's more camera effect, saturating the sunset/rise. [22:22] chopp: hahaha [22:23] Starting MySQL. ERROR! Manager of pid-file quit without updating file. [22:24] chopp: hahaha .. I wish ;) [22:25] wow, seeing that link, that sky is way out of reality, they must have used a certain lens to saturate the colors. [22:25] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [22:25] fire|bird: or photoshopped it ;) [22:25] BP{k}: :) damn you had to say that, I was about to say there's kethry out on the deck. [22:25] BP{k}: yeah, made the colors very dramatic. [22:26] chopp: lies .. kethry would be in the kitchen ;) [22:26] lol [22:26] hahaha [22:26] so, BP{k} would be out on the deck? [22:26] of course .. having a beer ;) [22:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:32] maddslacker: you get that when running what? [22:33] to start it you should run "/etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start" [22:35] I get that when I run "/etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start" [22:38] and you ran "mysql_install_db --user=mysql" ?? [22:38] before trying to start it ? [22:38] did you read the rc file? :> [22:38] actually I su'ed to mysql, then ran mysql_inatall_db [22:38] acidchild, I don't know how to read [22:39] :D [22:39] good [22:39] maddslacker: what is the output from "ls -ld /var/lib/mysql/" [22:39] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.38) left irc: "Leaving" [22:40] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:40] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:40] drwxr-x--- 4 mysql mysql 102 2009-11-02 20:37 /var/lib/mysql/ [22:43] Slackware package /tmp/seamonkey-2.0-x86_64-1.txz created. [22:43] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:43] oops [22:43] SHIT thrice`, PASTEBIN! [22:43] bad thrice`, no cookie [22:43] heh [22:44] http://pastebin.com/d1e43bccb [22:44] that's tail ofthe error log [22:45] # Before you can run MySQL, you must have a database. To install an initial [22:45] fire|bird, got it; though not perfect [22:45] # database, do this as root: <---- "root" [22:45] got it [22:46] I had a typo in rc.mysql [22:46] see if that squares it up [22:46] a typo? did you edit it for some reason? [22:46] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-61-69-215-24.for.connect.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [22:47] I had basedir=/usr based on a how-to I had found [22:47] removed it [22:48] jmichaelx (n=james@66.175.209.29) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [22:48] as noted, all that should be required to start it is to follow the directions in the file, chmod it and /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start. no editing [22:49] fire|bird, here's a start: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/00ZFHZ29.html [22:49] now on to the real task, mythtv :D [22:51] maddslacker: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/mythtv/ [22:53] already installed [22:53] with deps [22:53] fire|bird, oops, I think line 106 should be "nss" instead of "nspr" , but that compiles OK here [22:53] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:53] just needed mysql to run [22:57] hmm would recompiling the X.org package with appropriate options to Make would significantly speed up my env ? [22:57] paul424: what is your video card? [22:58] What kind of chicken should I get? [22:58] extra crispy [22:58] geforce 6600, but what it has to do with it ? [22:58] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:59] sorry,paul424....misread [23:00] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] night,slackers...talk with all later [23:01] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-157-173.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:02] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] fire|bird, http://tinyurl.com/yz7vf5n . I think that's good; the only thing is that the mozplugin patch needs tweaking to apply [23:05] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:06] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:06] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:09] andarius, I got kicking-bbq/jamacaian jerk. [23:10] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] would I get significant speed up with recompiling something with -mtune=CPU-TYPE=athlon-xp -o3 ? like X.org server ? [23:11] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:12] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:12] paul424, I'd advise against -O3, and it's already -O2, but the -march parameter could get you something. [23:12] dmonk (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] ok thanks [23:13] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] paul424, overall. I'd say screw it. [23:13] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:14] Yes. [23:14] As in, Screw it. [23:15] The mighty robby workman concur's with byteframe. [23:15] And if it's optimized for size, that might be enjoyable. [23:15] :) [23:16] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] its not the size that counts! its the motion of the compiler! [23:16] har^ [23:16] hehe [23:17] Action: andarius wonders if that kicking-bbq/jamacaian jerk is enjoyable [23:17] andarius, I think I ordered too much food. [23:17] send it to me :) [23:19] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:19] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:31] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "there are a few things i hate, liars always tops the list" [23:33] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:35] anyone have a webcam that works with 2.6.21 ? [23:35] 2.6.31 [23:36] jeev: no one wants to see you, trust me on that [23:36] vantech1 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:36] creative vista live cam [23:37] ov511 [23:37] vantech1 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] or gspca [23:37] Necrogami (n=djnecrog@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:37] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.31.52) joined ##slackware. [23:37] Nick change: Necrogami_ -> Necrogami [23:38] what can I do to have fun in slackware? [23:38] I feel like really bored [23:39] dissociative, compile the virtualbox-ose slackbuilds and run slackware inside of slackware. [23:40] I think that i have done that [23:40] but used the closed source one [23:40] I need something newwww [23:40] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:43] cool winter [23:45] Mr. Worf, arm phasers. [23:45] pankaj (n=pjed@ppp-124-122-99-226.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: No route to host [23:47] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:47] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-143-229.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [23:48] dissociative byteframe: We know how much you like Slackware so we put Slack on Slack so now you can Slack while you Slack! YEAAHH BOOOYY: http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/slackonslack1.png [23:51] dmonk (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:51] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: "Leaving" [23:52] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [23:55] antiwire, My vslack inside of my slack is better: http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3428/slackinsideslack.png [23:55] if by better you mean 'gheyed all up' yeah [23:56] Oh you silly KDE user., [23:56] lol [23:56] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-220-123.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [23:56] startrek is gay [23:57] phuque you. [23:57] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:57] I was thinking about also modifying all slackbuilds to use sudo instead of having to be run as root completely [23:57] also [23:58] dissocia1ive: or..just create a wrapper which does the same [23:58] archyblue (n=archy@24.96.203.244) joined ##slackware. [23:58] wrapper? [23:58] yes, a wrapper script [23:58] dissocia1ive, do what straterra says, but first, modify all slackbuilds just in case. [23:58] lol [23:58] yeah do double work [23:58] rob0, there? [00:00] --- Tue Nov 3 2009