[00:00] i'm using awesome wm and my fan won't shutup now [00:00] that's not the prob [00:00] fix acpi [00:00] well whatever do you mean? [00:01] ok, over 6am now, I really need to go to bed [00:01] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.86) joined ##slackware. [00:02] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] problem is that light kept me awake (just because it's light, I follow the sun's schedule) and I love Pantera and that really doesn't help sleep/want to go to bed [00:02] never had a problem before. [00:02] I've been listening to Pantera for 4 hours 46 mins now :) [00:03] mrselfpwn: how's cpu usage? [00:03] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.19.13) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:03] load average: 1.27, 1.07, 0.91 [00:04] is a slackware package just a regular xz archive, and pkgtools just parses it a certain way? or is it modified in any way? [00:04] mrselfpwn: around 1? what's running? have you checked with top? :o [00:04] it's an xz'd tarball with some meta data about the contents and a structured layout [00:04] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:05] is there a way to read/change the metadata? [00:05] basically, the .t?z is extracted to / except [00:05] gonzalo (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:05] archiebenedict: in doinst.sh [00:05] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-176.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:05] (in a subfolder iirc but I can't remember the name) [00:06] just open the package, there will be one folder which is not usr, bin or lib, [00:06] (yes, or sbin, or ...) [00:06] archiebenedict: mkdir TEST && cd TEST && explodepkg /path/to/package.txz [00:06] gonzalo (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [00:07] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] ok thanks [00:07] gonzalo (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:07] Camarade_Tux: doesn't look good [00:08] cpu usuage is high for some reason [00:08] mrselfpwn: indeed :P [00:08] I need to go to bed now, good night ;) [00:08] although it's almost a day... [00:08] Camarade_Tux: xinitrc is taking 96% of it [00:09] Camarade_Tux: bon nuit, pantera rocks :) [00:09] mrselfpwn: used slackbuild.org's slackbuild? [00:09] gonzalo (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:09] Failed|Artist: :) [00:09] Camarade_Tux: fucking hostile!!!! :) \m/ [00:09] Camarade_Tux: yes [00:10] Failed|Artist: hehe :P [00:10] used xwmconfig to set it as well. [00:10] mrselfpwn: well, check its xinitrc.awesome, that's all I can say [00:10] and now, *poof* :) [00:10] Camarade_Tux: thank you. [00:11] TwinReverb: you there? [00:12] TwinReverb: when you return, is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104255 the webcam you reviewed in the LQ HCL? [00:12] i dont see a doinst.sh file [00:12] bleh, i'll just use pkgtools [00:13] mingdao, [00:13] hey TwinReverb [00:14] mingdao, yes it is [00:14] Okay, thanks. I sent a laptop to someone in the States, and need to order them a webcam to use with Skype. [00:15] that works and so does the pro for laptop [00:16] maybe get it then ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104075 it's on sale ;) [00:17] restart seemed to help. [00:17] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:17] mingdao, do you have a laptop? [00:18] Nick change: [firedix] -> fdisk [00:19] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F6A4C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:19] mingdao, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104075&Tpk=logitech%20laptop%20pro [00:19] ezr (n=foo@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: "leaving" [00:20] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:20] if i wanted to install pkgtools on a system that didnt have pkgtools, how would i do that? [00:21] compile? [00:22] wait a minute... these are just bash scripts [00:23] Action: Failed|Artist perfection perfection..... [00:23] Failed|Artist: you figure something out? [00:23] fire|bird: no lol [00:23] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-rrzobxvkftycqrta) left irc: "leaving" [00:23] that was a nice 11GB used -> 5.8GB gzipped image file using ntfstools [00:24] this is pathetic dude :( [00:24] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-jfkgfciqemtpclfi) joined ##slackware. [00:24] mingdao, that picture is weird though: it clips to a laptop, not a stand. no stand included. i guess newegg got sick of "wtf i bought webcam and no laptop came with it" [00:24] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-jfkgfciqemtpclfi) left irc: Client Quit [00:24] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left irc: "Leaving" [00:25] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-vapmlzakvzehfkcs) joined ##slackware. [00:25] martinus (n=martinus@125.164.238.101) joined ##slackware. [00:25] Action: Failed|Artist seeks music for inspiration [00:27] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:28] Action: Failed|Artist sacrifices a cat to the gods [00:28] Action: TwinReverb plays "They're Coming To Take Me Away" for Failed|Artist [00:28] TwinReverb: :) [00:28] a ... lolcat? 8-O [00:28] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.8) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:28] TwinReverb: yes and a cute one too [00:28] i need them on my side [00:28] 8-( [00:28] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.172) joined ##slackware. [00:29] You can't haz an lolcat until the banner is done. [00:29] fire|bird: damn it [00:30] TwinReverb that's a kool tune [00:30] can i have a copy? [00:31] i don't have a copy, i just remember it [00:32] hiii excusme, any body here know how to using escp command with cups ??? [00:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:32] martinus: you're excused [00:32] TwinReverb ok; it's a fave of mine [00:34] Quiznos: what band is that ? [00:34] hey i made a new logical partition,even though its listed in fdisk,it not visible in the /dev [00:34] or artist [00:34] i'm thinking it's Dr Demento [00:34] or something he played on his show long time ago [00:35] i don't think i need a reboot , do it? [00:35] make a node for it [00:35] it doesn't make sense [00:35] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:35] Quiznos: it is handled by udev isn't it? [00:35] what's its alleged addr? [00:35] should be i think [00:35] but [00:36] addr/path [00:36] hii all, any body here have experience using rastertoescpx command for printing ? [00:36] not i [00:37] Action: TwinReverb prefers LVM to extended partitions [00:37] fdisk (n=firedix@host252.200-117-59.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [00:37] he dint say extended tho [00:37] martinus (n=martinus@125.164.238.101) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:38] wow senate committee is still meeting; live on cspan [00:38] ugh politics [00:38] ewwww politics [00:39] makes my creativity go even lower [00:39] well, as is might be said of food "a sophisticated tongue" can also be said of politics. that or passion. [00:39] :) [00:39] Failed|Artist: you changed your nick to include failed, trust me, it was already at 0. [00:39] gonzalo (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:39] heh [00:40] mm cute lil blond on tvguide channel [00:40] gonzalo (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [00:40] you're a sub, you don't stand a chance. [00:40] heh [00:40] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:40] yea, she's in Calif. [00:40] i'm not crossing the mighty mississip for her [00:40] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [00:41] Failed|Artist: QUICK, starting looking for plane tickets, we're sending a sub to Cali. [00:41] lol [00:41] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:41] espeeshully not gettin on no damn plane [00:41] s/plane/train/ [00:41] gonzalo__ (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:42] gonzalo__ (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [00:42] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [00:42] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:42] fire|bird: hahaha [00:43] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [00:43] Action: Failed|Artist maybe the template is limiting me..... [00:43] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:44] yeah i think the template is limiting my creativity... [00:45] OUCH, this should have the caption "Yo, wrong balls dude." http://www.frenchfriends.info/files/funny_soccer.jpg [00:45] Action: Failed|Artist looks for a new template [00:45] fire|bird: soccer guy used that for his avatar ... [00:45] :) [00:46] that had to friggen HURT. [00:46] fire|bird: musta [00:46] It lifted him OFF the ground. [00:46] nah he jumped [00:46] it would hurt more if the kick was from the front [00:46] alisonken1noc: yup [00:46] alisonken1noc: yeah, but either way, OUCH. [00:46] :) [00:46] gotta protect one's birdy [00:46] you know that wasn't just a light kick. [00:47] fire|bird: had anger [00:47] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [00:47] that's more than anger, that's "I'm gonna destroy your birdy" [00:47] how many of the packages in 'a' are absolutely necessary for a system? so far i have bash, aaa*, pkgtools [00:48] this system doesnt necessarily need to boot, it's going to be a chroot system [00:50] http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/epic-fail-cat-roadkill-fail.jpg LOL [00:50] hahaha [00:50] archiebenedict, if i remember correctly from using "menu" install option, like almost every one of the packages in a/ are needed but i'm not a chroot / minimal system expert [00:50] archiebenedict: interesting question. look at the descriptions and take a guess [00:50] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:50] then play around till you find the minimums [00:52] shocking [00:52] that's what im doing in the mean time [00:52] this is going to be fun [00:52] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:52] archiebenedict: i'd just fire up qemu and run a slackware installer. use the expert install option to go through the packages, and it tells you what is required or not. [00:52] archiebenedict: if it's a chrooted system, just throw in what you've got and gzip/bzip2/xz. If it doesn't work, throw in more. I'd of course want coreutils, findutils, gawk, sed, grep and ed. Oh, and shadow and all the auth stuff. [00:53] yay kenny's alive!!! [00:53] \o/ [00:53] you sdratsab? [00:54] Quiznos: bless the lord \o/ [00:55] amen [00:55] Quiznos: are you referring to me? :) [00:55] rbash is easier than actual chroot [00:56] alisonken1noc no :) [00:56] ln bash rbash [00:57] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65211bf.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [00:59] anyone need a man-icure? http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/epic-fail-manicure-set-fail.jpg [00:59] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:59] alisonken1noc there can be only one kenny :) [00:59] here [01:00] Quiznos: and his alive bless the lord again \o/ [01:00] OMG you killed Kenny [01:00] no no, kenny's alive! [01:01] bless the lord \o/ [01:01] Failed|Artist i'm not offendable :) you cannot get a rise out of me on this subject. [01:01] but do continue. [01:01] Quiznos: about the lord ? i could care less [01:02] ok [01:02] :) [01:03] Action: superGear kills Kenny [01:03] wtf is Kenny [01:03] superGear: how old are you ? [01:04] i am 852055200 seconds old [01:04] agentc0re: dog seconds ? [01:04] nope. [01:05] k [01:05] Real seconds.. like the ones that go tick tock. [01:05] ah [01:06] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:07] kenny is a char from a cartoon [01:07] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@98.14.234.253) joined ##slackware. [01:07] Quiznos: and his alive , Aleluya! \o/ [01:08] praise jeses \o/ [01:08] jesus* [01:08] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:09] deco, call it a night.... don't forget to change your nick back. [01:09] neonflux: That patch did the trick, thanks again for all the help. [01:09] fire|bird: Aleluya ! praise the lord \o/ [01:09] fire|bird: from the last website I gave you? [01:10] neonflux: yes [01:10] fire|bird: did you just apply the patch or did you have to do anything extra? [01:11] neonflux: I just did what that page said to do, only I added those lines, the patch line, CFLAGS line, etc to the slackbuild, and it worked. [01:12] fire|bird: could you pastebin the new slackbuild? I'd be interested in looking at the changes so I know what works [01:12] neonflux: sure thing, sec. [01:13] heey [01:13] someone could help me to configure xdm in order to run xfce4 as default window manager? [01:14] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:14] acidtripper: that was trick all i did was try wmconfig and select xfce multiple times intill i got it [01:14] tricky* [01:14] dunno what i did but it worked [01:14] xwmconfig [01:14] xwmconfig [01:14] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] I was just looking through an old electrical engineering book I read mostly through before [01:15] mm .. [01:15] and I saw something I thought is funny [01:15] imposible i dont have that command [01:15] i use arch [01:16] or use startx,or xinit /usr/bin/startxfce4. [01:16] neonflux: Here it is. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ohThse96.html What I added for that patch is probably not in the right places, etc. but it worked. [01:16] ohms law, states that V = Ri(t) as a time dependancy, but only where R >= 0. basicly R >= 0 is saying we use this resitance formula where there is resistance, and dont if there is not. [01:16] lol. [01:16] I'm like... duh. [01:16] fire|bird: also, have you opened up XBMC after compile on x86_64? ...I read some reports that the startup script needed to be tweaked [01:16] acidtripper: arch linux ? [01:17] fire|bird: thanks for testing it out on 64 bit Slack! :) [01:17] well actually the voltage is time dependant too but whatever [01:17] neonflux: not yet, it just finished building, so hadn't started it yet, but I will. [01:17] yea [01:17] neonflux: no problem :) [01:17] acidtripper: no seas boludo estamos en #slackware :D [01:17] hmmm - when I went through be&e, they had dropped (t) [01:17] jajaj de donde sos? [01:17] acidtripper: usa [01:17] i know but archlinux people couldn't help me [01:18] acidtripper: that sucks hmmmm [01:18] jaja do you speak spanish? [01:18] kejen (n=brian@67.202.107.232) left irc: "leaving" [01:18] acidtripper: yeah, never tried on arch linux only use kde [01:18] i did what wikis said and nothing :S [01:18] acidtripper: oh [01:18] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.243.107) joined ##slackware. [01:18] acidtripper: when i used arch linux i only tried gnome and kde ... i have no idea about xdm [01:19] ahh, yea [01:19] i tried gnome, but i prefer xfce [01:19] xdm is not a desktop enviroment [01:19] anyone know where are installed the X modules? /usr/X11/lib/modules ?? [01:19] xdm is a login manager [01:19] fatalnix: don't be silly and follow the whole convo before you make a comment [01:19] acidtripper: yes xfce is the best imp [01:20] imo* [01:20] lol. [01:20] acidtripper: very fast [01:20] fatalnix: :) [01:20] Failed|Artist: what was silly about that? [01:20] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [01:20] okay, back to finding out what a Joule was [01:20] tavl: try /usr/X11/xorg/modules or /usr/X11/modules [01:20] antiwire: we are trying to get xdm to boot xfce, not saying it's a De [01:21] DE* [01:21] I got it mixed up woith a coulomb the other day [01:21] neonflux: It starts right up. [01:21] yea [01:21] with* [01:21] xdm isn't booting anything either [01:21] fire|bird: awesome [01:21] don't be silly [01:21] kitche (n=kitche@pool-71-243-191-26.bflony.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] if you want to use xdm instead of kdm, chmod -x kdm and make sure xdm is +x [01:21] a joule isn't very much energy [01:21] antiwire: arch linux [01:22] right ? [01:22] ? [01:22] that's what his using [01:22] oh yes [01:22] a joule is a newton meter [01:22] 1 J = 1 volt per coulomb [01:22] iirc from chemistry class 1 joule is ~4.18 calories [01:23] I think it would make a much more sense to ask for Arch help in an Arch centered channel. [01:23] ah. [01:23] I do remember off my head [01:23] that a coulomb is a measureof charge [01:23] joule is energy [01:24] and the charge of an atom is -(1.602^-19) Coulombs [01:24] so with that you can aproximate how many atoms per seccond are sucked into your psu. [01:24] I will probably use it more when I take physics next quarter [01:24] :D [01:24] i think einstein put bubbles in beer by splitting and atom no? [01:24] as a time dependancy [01:24] s/and/an [01:24] mrselfpwn: I think when he was a youngin'. [01:25] I read this book when I was a freshman in high school, not the whole thing, but what I could get out of it [01:25] godling: ah yes [01:25] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:25] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XDM bookmark this archxfceguy. [01:25] it was my free reading book heh [01:25] fire|bird: I don't think the line 'export CFLAGS' actually does anything in the script...it should be 'export $CFLAGS' [01:26] neonflux: export CFLAGS is correct if you want the variable CFLAGS to be inherited by the child processes [01:26] the $ would change the meaning [01:26] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [01:26] Hello! [01:27] can I add any old file to /etc/modprobe.d/ to make stuff load on startup (eg. the tun kernel module)? [01:27] this is bash, not basic :) [01:27] neonflux: ok, I'll change that line. [01:27] you dont use the $ in assignments. [01:27] godling: yes [01:27] thanks alisonken1noc [01:27] alisonken1noc: hmmm...maybe but it didn't look right [01:27] I'm used to the old depmod method I guess :) [01:27] godling: tun.conf: 'install tun /sbin/modprobe tun' [01:27] without the quotes [01:28] what about double quotes? [01:28] godling: took me a few tries to figure that out as well :) [01:28] as root, you can update your path if it makes you angry by doing something like echo "export PATH='$PATH'" >> ~/.bash_profile, if that makes any sense to you [01:28] well I was looking at the other files already in the directory and there's not much to go on [01:28] nope - no quotes, I just used them to show the line that goes in the file tun.conf (which you can name anything you want [01:28] ) [01:28] alisonken1noc: I know, I was just messing with you. ;P [01:28] make sure you change the ~/ to ~user/ [01:28] fatalnix: single quotes will not expand $PATH in bash [01:28] no i know [01:29] k [01:29] but I do do oit [01:29] I'm trying to setup internal<->external bridging for virtualbox [01:29] blah.. typing horribly lying down [01:29] fatalnix: try typing upside down [01:29] Anyone programming with MPI here? [01:29] I just cant remember what I actually typed, I usually get it right the first time [01:29] godling: :) [01:29] I was like geexz, '' sure looks wrong lol [01:30] Beginners all purpose way to fuck up code. [01:30] who wants to learn BAPWTFUC? [01:31] fatalnix: Ù‡1 _o ƒuPe Ýe‡ ‡Ýƒ noŽ ÝTuo un_ ŽßßPÝy s,‡1 [01:31] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [01:31] lol [01:31] I think that must've been invented for our friends down under. [01:32] 1 cls... 2 print "Hi!"... 3 goto 1 [01:32] rename to fun.bas and you're all set [01:32] spectre (n=kyle@pool-173-54-180-31.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:32] step three: stare. [01:32] lol [01:33] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [01:33] alisonken1noc: why the "install tun" before the modprobe command there? [01:33] lolcode's interpretation of basic: HAI GTFO BAI [01:33] you're telling it what you want followed by the command to do it [01:33] cid (n=cid@c-67-172-254-61.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] alisonken1noc: it appears that loading the module automagically mknod's /dev/net/tun [01:33] since I'm not a modprobe.d guru, I just followed the example [01:34] oh? what example alisonken1noc ? [01:34] man modprobe.d [01:34] I searched the slackbook but couldn't find anything [01:34] ah [01:34] ;P [01:34] cool, thanks [01:34] is the slackbook included in /usr/doc yet? [01:34] :) [01:34] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:34] That where I put it xd [01:35] sometimes I make a symlink for apache for it [01:35] the other thing is I believe it's similar to the redhat method that you can prenumber the filenames to get specific order execution [01:35] heh. the "redhat" method. [01:36] ok - sysvinit championed by redhat :) [01:36] \o/ [01:36] or is that "pushed by redhat"? I forget [01:36] either way bless the lord \o/ [01:37] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [01:37] sQuEE (n=narya@201.252.58.49) joined ##slackware. [01:37] crap [01:37] I have a toecramp [01:37] ivan_ (n=ivan@126.95.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [01:37] ah ha! [01:38] ewwww [01:38] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:38] well least it aint a butt cramp [01:38] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:38] i hate those [01:38] I will refrain from mentioning the other side. [01:39] nvm I just did. [01:40] so I will let toastytoast know that a joule is more significant in circuits than he thinks [01:40] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-131-42.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:40] if 1 volt = 1 joule for every coloumb of charge... [01:40] coulomb...* [01:40] kitche (n=kitche@pool-71-243-191-26.bflony.east.verizon.net) left irc: [01:41] thats actually kind of neat. [01:41] taking to yourself again ? [01:41] talking* [01:41] ~/join #math [01:41] oops [01:42] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97.117.116.126) joined ##slackware. [01:44] greetings and salutations [01:44] giuppy (n=giuppy@host36-160-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:44] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-10-211.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:45] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-78-128.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:46] greetings and salutations [01:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:47] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-63-179.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:47] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:47] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-63-179.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [01:47] phoenix^: greetings and salutations [01:49] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:50] how many people run slackware-current versus slackware stable? [01:50] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:50] at the moment, not much difference [01:50] archiebenedict: well right now it's empty [01:50] not empty - there's some mesa upgrades in -current [01:50] archiebenedict: current i mean [01:51] alisonken1noc: i mean a whole distro in general [01:51] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.243.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:51] but you guys normally run it? [01:51] alisonken1noc: grrr tab fail sorry [01:51] archiebenedict: some do , some don't [01:51] archiebenedict: personal choice [01:52] some are bleeding edge , some aren't [01:52] alisonken1noc: apparently you just need the file to exist in /etc/modprobe.d/ [01:52] alisonken1noc: eg /etc/modprobe.d/tun.conf is sufficient [01:52] godling: yep [01:52] fire|bird: you there ? [01:52] you don't need to put any options in it, alisonken1noc [01:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:53] ah - ok, now I remember the example talking about preloading another module first :) [01:54] i guess everybody has to sleep at some point :/ [01:54] except those of us that are graveyard or sleep deprived nerds [01:55] alisonken1noc: ;) [01:55] praise the lord! \o/ [01:55] alisonken1noc, or are in a very different time zone 8-P [01:55] :) [01:55] TwinReverb: that too :P [01:57] man, virtualization kicks ass [01:57] it kicks butt ... virtually [01:58] only if you have a fast machine :/ [01:58] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-105.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:59] I've got a core 2 duo (the T5270) so it's pretty cool but it's nothing spectacular [01:59] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [01:59] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:59] if you have a machine that supports virtualization it doesn't need to be super fast at all [01:59] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:59] my laptop is only a 1.83 original core duo [01:59] not c2d [01:59] Action: TwinReverb has T5500 [02:00] antiwire: i have a sigle core 1.6ghz [02:00] but I was referring specifically to software virtualization as I believe my cpu does not support it natively [02:00] crs (n=crs@gentoo/user/crs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:01] crs (n=crs@gentoo/user/crs) joined ##slackware. [02:02] yeah, Intel-VT is only supported starting with the T5500 [02:02] :/ [02:02] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [02:02] intel-VT? [02:03] bs [02:03] I have a T2400 [02:03] VT is supported [02:04] antiwire, sup [02:04] flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon bts pni monitor vmx est tm2 xtpr pdcm [02:04] vmx [02:05] antiwire: that's cool [02:05] it's the only saving factor for this cpu though [02:05] It has VT but no EM64T [02:06] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) left irc: "Leaving." [02:06] ack, my cpu is hot [02:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:08] TwinReverb: Intel-VT is Intel's stab at hardware virtualization [02:09] oh so putting stuff in the hardware to make virtualization better or easier at least, sort of like some of the AES extensions? [02:09] or acceleration on the video card [02:09] is the gimp SMT aware ? [02:09] Failed|Artist: any banner luck yet? :P [02:09] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.33.130) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:09] fire|bird: i decided to make my own theme fuck it lol no more templates [02:10] TwinReverb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervisor#Classifications [02:10] fire|bird: i gotta be a man [02:10] TwinReverb: type 1 [02:10] Failed|Artist: haha, there ya go. So get a banner going then? [02:11] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [02:11] fire|bird: not right now, I'm going to have to draw a sketch of the site , than code it and finally design the graphics , all of this will get me perfection :) [02:11] misspwnage_ (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:11] fire|bird: even if it's going to take longer... but it's the only way i see [02:12] misspwnage_ (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:12] Failed|Artist: http://imagebin.org/66137 Could do a blend like so, add some pictures (fade them into the bg) and put the team name across the top. (This one isn't good, but an example. [02:12] fire|bird: yeah thanks,,,, gonna drow it on paper first... :) [02:12] draw( [02:13] yeah, sometimes it's easier to draw something out first, then make it on the pc. [02:13] <<< shouldn't have to have the heat cranked on [02:13] hey misspwnage_ [02:13] yoyo [02:13] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:13] misspwnage_: 45F here atm. [02:14] mm probally 34 here [02:14] windy as well [02:14] haha [02:14] it's raining here, wind has died down [02:14] fire|bird: yeah , oh boy when I'm finally done I'll feel so accomplished :P [02:14] fire|bird: lucky kinda getting hot here [02:14] did you poop? [02:14] i tend to feel that way afterwards [02:14] Failed|Artist: haha, I bet. I usually use inkscape for stuff like that, but I don't have it installed yet, it's building. [02:14] hahaha [02:15] Well, Failed|Artist, did you? [02:15] fire|bird: poop ? [02:15] yeah ? [02:15] hour ago :) [02:15] hahaha [02:15] i belive the lady asked if you let one rip? [02:15] because i ate some del taco [02:15] good stuff [02:15] yeah [02:15] misspwnage_: what lady ? [02:15] and you don't want to disappoint the lady. [02:15] :O [02:16] you guys mean Camarade_Tux ? [02:16] me [02:16] gota keep the folks regular [02:16] oh..... [02:16] misspwnage_: :) [02:16] TwinReverb: check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-assisted_virtualization too [02:16] misspwnage_: Ya know, you're married, shouldn't it be mrspwnage? :P [02:16] misspwnage_: sorry , my mind is kinda messed up from all this fail [02:16] ohh yeahh [02:16] stupid auto log [02:16] lol [02:17] misspwnage_: either that, ir in irc life, you're still single. :P [02:17] misspwnage_: you are swinger or something ? [02:17] s/ir/or/ [02:17] Nick change: misspwnage_ -> mrspwnage [02:17] \o/ [02:17] mrspwnage: ok my respects than [02:17] god i can't type [02:17] Failed|Artist: You've had more than the daily fail limit. [02:17] fire|bird: i have the record [02:17] just like I have the record for most nick changes. :P [02:17] indeed :P [02:18] Failed|Artist, it's ok to be of fail sometimes [02:18] might as well get it done in one days work than spread out over a months time [02:18] mshade: i guess :( but it doesn't feel good [02:18] tabfail [02:18] damn it [02:18] wtf seriously [02:18] finally i can call that i'm always failing at tab [02:18] lol [02:18] HOLY CRAP, ##slackware stats are showing that I've had 126 names. I WIN. [02:18] fire|bird: dude, that's hardcore [02:19] fire|bird: you should like make some money wiht that [02:19] The next in line has 79 I'm WAY ahead. [02:19] with [02:19] fire|bird: whos that ? [02:19] TwinReverb: you can have entire operating systems running inside their own little 'bubbles' [02:19] CmdLnKid [02:19] fire|bird: oh that weirdo [02:19] lol [02:19] Man, I've changed nicks more than I though, I thought I had like 99-100, but nope. :D [02:19] fire|bird, i've probally talked to you when i was 10 years old [02:20] s/though/thought/ [02:20] mrspwnage: hahahaha [02:20] Action: godling waits for the day he can alt-switch to a different os -- OH WAIT [02:20] with that many names [02:20] man i love you guys [02:20] this slackware community [02:20] Does I have an identity crisis? :P [02:21] There, inkscape's done. [02:21] fire|bird: never tried it [02:21] :O [02:21] godling, ah [02:21] fire|bird: I'm comming from adobe products [02:21] godling, is there a way to run an OS that's already ON the hard drive that way? [02:21] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-1-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:21] TwinReverb: the operating system needs to support it [02:21] Failed|Artist: haha [02:22] fire|bird: :P, how long did it take to build ? [02:22] Failed|Artist: I'm #2 for most active here. :) [02:22] hoobop (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-179-109.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:22] fire|bird: congrats :) [02:23] fire|bird: whos numero uno ? [02:23] godling, as in ... ? like if windows xp is on my hard drive, can i run it? [02:23] Failed|Artist: macavity [02:23] i think i want to make my own leeeenux [02:24] Action: eviljames is a Failed|Artist today [02:24] mrspwnage: thats wht im trying to do right now [02:24] i will call it hellokitty666 linux [02:24] make your own linux as in linux from scratch, or make your own as in roll your own distro? [02:24] heh [02:24] roll my own distro [02:24] mrselfpwn, lol [02:24] in soviet russia, DISTRO ROLLS J000! [02:25] thats what it's feeling like right now [02:25] i won't secretly base it on debian either [02:25] lol [02:26] well, Slackware pretty much provides you all the tools to roll your own easily [02:26] eviljames: why you can't design a site too ? [02:26] eviljames: except a 'normal' package manager [02:26] archiebenedict: If by 'normal' you mean 'retarded' then you are correct. [02:26] TwinReverb: I don't think so. [02:26] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:27] I know MS has Hyper-V and that lets you run XP [02:27] Failed|Artist: wrote a song the other day that I'm having trouble playing, and having trouble putting pen to paper on some other tunes in my noodle.. [02:27] tomaeto tomahto [02:27] eviljames: ah yes that's always a big pita [02:27] The package management tools in Slackware are by far the best of breed. [02:27] BY FAR. [02:27] they have their pros and cons [02:27] godling, can one run slackware64 inside slackware using linux virtualization (or visa versa)? [02:28] well I'm off to watch some parts of my newly acquired kamelot dvd and go to bed, good night everyone , night fire|bird [02:28] TwinReverb: should be possible, i run slackware64 in windows xp with vbox [02:28] rpm isn't too bad and assuming you stay within the distribution you are and be smart about it, usually i had no problems with rpm. however, broken dependencies can happen, which is the two-edged sword of rpm. [02:28] night Failed|Artist [02:28] nini Failed|Artist come back to fail any time :) [02:29] np :) [02:29] Failed|Artist (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:29] sweet, wireshark is done compiling and my cpu temperature has returned to normal. :D [02:29] i personally like portage's potential, but without a truly stable set of packages (like slackware or debian) it's retarded [02:30] TwinReverb: google kvm [02:30] Hi all, I want to archive a website and combine it into a single page... [02:30] what's the best way to do that? [02:30] So I can print it as a pdf [02:30] godling, well what i mean when i ask is has anyone done it? and how difficult is it? [02:30] TwinReverb: I would bet that it would be easier to run slack inside a vm under slack64 :) [02:30] alisonken1noc, ok [02:31] i know it's possible, technically, but i'm just wondering how hard to set up and how stable to use type stuff. how is the experience? [02:31] don't know - just a guess [02:31] i have to ask these questions because i'm busy [02:31] depends a LOT on how much ram you have, and 2 how much cpu you have [02:32] TwinReverb: doing what? [02:32] if youre running on a 32 bit processor you'll hit the 4G limit, and hit it HARD [02:32] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:32] archiebenedict: that's why I suggested slack64 as base and slack as vm [02:33] godling, running, say, slack on slack64 [02:33] well i have only 2GB max ram so for me 64bit is not about the memory limit [02:33] try it. i used vbox [02:33] ivan_ (n=ivan@126.95.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Connection timed out [02:34] i havent tried any other virtualization solutions [02:34] no, I mean what are you busy doing? [02:34] other things in life [02:35] I see. [02:35] I must not be, then. [02:35] ;P [02:35] the only thing keeping me on 32bit slackware is skype really [02:35] i loathe 64bit/32bit compatibility [02:35] you can run 32bit apps on a 64bit os [02:35] er the issues surrounding it ... disregard [02:36] skype has a static that works fine [02:36] i know but bad experience every time i try, not worth discussing really [02:36] I think they also have a 64-bit statuc [02:36] static [02:36] their static for 64bit needs 32bit which is sort of gay [02:36] i already tried it [02:36] Action: godling thinks TwinReverb is having an out-of-ass experience [02:36] :P [02:36] static needs 32bit? [02:36] interesting [02:36] i'm stickin with 32bit slackware [02:36] especially since they have *buntu 64-bit debs [02:37] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) joined ##slackware. [02:37] who uses skype anyways? [02:37] :P [02:37] me [02:37] it's on the ubuntu forums: to make the 64bit work you need 32bit stuff, it's not purely 64bit, so forget it (at least as far as i am concerned) [02:37] :) [02:37] I have no need for 64bit [02:37] I use skype [02:37] i use Skype because i am physically separated from my family [02:37] and will be using it when i go to Japan because then i'll be separated from my extended family lol 8-S [02:37] skype is gay [02:37] gotta love being military [02:37] my sisterinlaw is going overseas so need it for the wife to keep in touch [02:37] what is a .a file? [02:38] sortof like a static .so file (.a is original unix format) [02:38] what does that mean? [02:38] Oh, I thought a.out was the unix format, and a .a file is something translated into assembler. [02:38] It's a statically linked library archive [02:38] eviljames - something like that :) [02:39] heh [02:39] rworkman to the rescue [02:39] i told rworkman to say that [02:39] jeev: you couldn't assemble your way out of a box [02:39] or into one for that matter [02:39] damn celibate sysadmins, always getting all uppity [02:39] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [02:39] "jeev: what's a box?" :) [02:40] eviljames, you couldn't disassemble a girl's panties for your way out of your virginity [02:40] Action: jeev kills alisonken1noc [02:40] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [02:41] macius (n=macius@i209-195-85-202.cia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:41] :) [02:41] ok good night [02:41] my eyes are dying [02:42] TwinReverb: sucks - "file skype-2.1.0.47: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [02:43] but at least being dynamic, it still runs ok [02:43] told you i already tried it [02:43] You can unpack the contents of a static library and build a shared library --- assuming you know what it's supposed to link, then you do this: ar -x lib.a # this gives you some .o files ; gcc -o libname.so -shared -llib1 -llib2 *.o [02:43] it's not really 64bit at all, it just works on 64bit linux distributions [02:43] or at least that's how it appears to me [02:43] yep [02:44] honestly i used to think slackware64/slamd64 were silly because they are purely 64bit [02:44] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/development/lua/lua.SlackBuild <-- for an example [02:44] now i think anything that says it's 64bit that isn't purely 64bit is silly [02:45] rworkman: while that mechanically works, usually the programs using the library won't be able to call out to a shared, as they assume its linked in and won't call dlsym and co. [02:45] well, skype static doesn't specify bits, the only one they advertise as 64-bit is the buntu deb [02:45] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [02:46] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-105.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:46] Rat409 (n=live@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] chakra alpha3 is decent [02:48] rk4n3: you mean for things that were built while the static lib was there (and thus they assume it's present), right? [02:48] If so, sure. [02:48] rworkman: yeah [02:49] Good point - I didn't mean to imply that one could magically make a shared library get used simply by building it, but I see how it could be read that way [02:49] ah :) [02:50] man rworkman you always gotta pull out your mad linux skillz 8-) [02:50] One man's mad is another man's noob. :) [02:50] I think mileage may vary even just re-linking the .o chunks as shared, since they may not have been compiled from C source with PIC, and depending on the code, that could be a problem [02:51] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD89AD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:51] rk4n3: funny you mention that - I was just looking at how I did the lua build and wondering about that. [02:51] man i love slackware ... xchat, firefox, kontact, restoring from backups, just got done imaging an ntfs partition, talking on skype, listening to music, compiling a kernel, lurking on pidgin ... and 100% stable without hiccups [02:51] I know it's fine on x86_64 (of course), but I now wonder about 32bit [02:51] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [02:51] rworkman: :) [02:51] Nobody's fussed though, so I guess it works. [02:51] morning [02:52] maybe at this point the linux community is just happy enough having SOMETHING that works for webcam over the internet [02:53] i sure am [02:53] usually i'd have to boot windows xp to talk to the wife, now i can do that on linux, i'm stoked! 8-) [02:54] although maybe skype could've put out a pure 64bit skype beta for us to test (i think the community would be very willing to help test) but oh well, wishful thinking [02:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.86) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:54] TwinReverb: probably just a matter of time [02:54] i think you're right [02:55] hopefully they come out with one that understands user groupings too, my user list is full and my screen realestate is limited vertically speaking [02:55] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-1-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:55] wow awesome hardware detect in chakra nvidia,coretemps,cpufreq all good panel applets working,way better than last time i tested it [02:55] is there a way to change where pkgtools puts files? [02:56] explodepkg,edit doinstall.sh? [02:56] yes --root=/mnt [02:56] or wherever [02:56] well, they already have 64-bit, just a matter of getting 64-bit static available :) [02:57] --root /otherroot Install using a location other than / (the default) as the root of the filesystem to install on. In the example given, use /otherroot instead. Setting the ROOT environment variable does the same thing. [02:57] unless you want to simply explode the package (i.e. unpack it) [02:57] slackwared (n=acolyte@unaffiliated/slackwared) left irc: "init 0" [02:57] but you can even just tar -xzf the file if it's a .tgz [02:57] untar it you mean [02:58] well enough live-cd, time to sleep goodnight all [02:58] Rat409 (n=live@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [02:58] adamk` (n=user@67.102.187.37) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:59] i don't know right now how to untar a txz but i bet google would know [02:59] mupi (n=mupi@84.20.246.189) joined ##slackware. [03:00] just look at how installpkg does it :) [03:00] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [03:00] oh yeah bleh, i keep forgetting its all bash scripts [03:00] it _is_ a shell script using tar after all [03:00] hmm .tlz [03:00] that's how I learned how to do an initrd that _doesn't_ do a pivot_root and stays in it's own little world [03:01] whoa you can do that? [03:02] archiebenedict: yep [03:02] oh yeah, i havent introduced myself im the neighborhood noob [03:03] slackware trivia: what is a .tlz slackware package? [03:03] initrd is a cpio archive and in the boot process, does a pivot_root to change from the initial ramdisk to your hard drive root partition, then basically forks init to finish the system setup [03:03] lzma archive? [03:03] yeppers 8-) [03:03] same thing txz is [03:03] ok - then why the txz rather than tlz? [03:03] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [03:03] less `which installpkg` [03:03] differentiate a slackware packge from a standard lzma tar archive? [03:04] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Excess Flood [03:04] ienh (n=ienh@rennes.elikya.com) joined ##slackware. [03:04] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] so i guess to untar a .t[xl]z you'd lzma -d $file; tar -xf $file [03:04] i didnt even think about that even though i had to edit an init script for initrd when i made my root partition encrypted [03:05] TwinReverb: or use tar's option for lzma (similar to tar -z option for gzip) [03:06] yeah i couldn't find it, let me try again [03:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:06] ah --lzma [03:06] I'm still on slamd64 atm so can't check yet [03:06] hmm it's not in the man page [03:07] Action: TwinReverb might update the man page later tonight if he has time ... plonk! one more thing on his TODO list [03:07] does tar have a --help option? [03:08] yeah [03:08] yes that's where i found it [03:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] alisonken1noc: consult the --help, it will tell you :P [03:12] yep - slamd64 12.1 version of tar does not do lzma [03:12] sorry - 12.2 [03:13] TwinReverb: -J [03:13] See "tar --help" [03:13] or "info tar" [03:13] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-173.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:14] Anyway, I should go to bed; it's 0214 here :/ [03:14] central? [03:16] gonzalo__ (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [03:16] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] stew (i=1413@freenode/staff/stew) joined ##slackware. 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[03:32] ok - probably my kvirc switching to change log files [03:33] 15:26 ::: alisonken1noc [n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com] has quit [Excess Flood] [03:33] I wonder how that happened. I only posted 2-3 lines about bash /dev/tcp [03:34] unless there was something else that got posted from my mouse? [03:34] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [03:34] few others at 15:25 but no net split [03:35] it didn't say you were kicked for excess flood ... that just appears to be your quit message [03:36] last post I have from you before that is -> 15:09 < alisonken1noc> central? [03:36] later ... [03:36] no - excess flood would be from freenode [03:37] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:38] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:41] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:41] gonzalo__ (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [03:42] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:42] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:42] gonzalo__ (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [03:43] anyone here know of a good link to slacktrack usage ? [03:44] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-107-189.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:45] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [03:47] first I heard of it [03:47] Nick change: Guest80229 -> pragma_ [03:47] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] Is it possible to have 6 channel sound in slackware? [03:49] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-hriumxksqhtsxpya) joined ##slackware. [03:49] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:49] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-173.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:49] greetings [03:50] basically want to build a slackware package from source, used to be something called checkinstall which made easy work of it. I beleive slacktrack can replace it but I having trouble figuring it out --help style [03:50] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [03:51] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:51] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] xdan779: you could use http://alien.slackbook.org/AST/ for example [03:53] xdan779: i think checkinstall is till there.. i could be mistaken ofcourse..:( [03:53] ast is for the slackbuild [03:55] oh right [03:55] he doesnt want that [03:55] The-Croupier: no longer with slackware64 13 and the source fails to build sahko: checking that link out now [03:56] xdan779: i see... [03:56] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:57] xdan779: the link wont help you [03:58] track257 (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) joined ##slackware. [03:58] i wish i knew of the link before ;) [03:58] it's never too late though... ;) [03:59] src2pkg? [03:59] everytime i want to start kde, i have to type 'startx -- -dpi 96' for best resolution. what i have to do for just have to type 'startx' instead of the long command? [04:00] xdan779: probably checkout src2pkg, I think it works similar to checkinstall/slacktrack [04:01] track257: creating an alias might work [04:01] slackmagic: i tried that but not work [04:01] pprkut: I will check it out, I have no prob;em giving slacktrack a try as it has replaced checkinstall in extra, just having trouble figuring out the correct syntacs [04:01] track257, edit startx... there's variables for server and client args inside it [04:02] track257, after all, it's a plaintext script ;) [04:02] track257: systemsettings -> look & feel -> appearance -> fonts -> force dpi [04:02] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." [04:02] should be sufficient [04:02] track257, one I make sure to always add for server args is -nolisten tcp [04:03] pprkut: i'm using kde3 and it does not have that menu [04:03] track257: it's there as well, in kcontrol's font module [04:05] yeah it's there. thanks very much pprkut ! [04:05] np [04:08] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:09] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:10] holy crap. how much stuff is actually bashscrpts. i thought all this was binary [04:11] archiebenedict: where are you lookiing? [04:13] archiebenedict, lots of wrappers for everything. for example -- file $(readlink $(which firefox)) [04:14] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [04:15] hi everybody [04:15] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:17] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:21] hey apoca [04:21] a question [04:22] I have 540 files named like name-12.html, name-1.html and so one [04:22] but the numbers have no leading zero [04:24] it's pretty easy to add those with krename, if that is your question :) [04:25] but is krename a kde program? :) [04:25] :P [04:25] alisonken1noc: it is a kde program a fantastic one at that [04:26] unfortunately, not everyone here uses kde (I do, but others don't) [04:26] alisonken1noc: very true, but if you do it would make very easy work of that [04:27] slackytude: bash script - split out the numbers, then a bash function to put in leading zeros. simple [04:27] hack one together in about 1/2 hour [04:30] track257 (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) left irc: "leaving" [04:31] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [04:32] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-107-189.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:34] you remember the lilo-problems I had on tuesday? My boss just told me to use grub instead :) [04:35] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.24) left irc: "Leaving" [04:35] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [04:35] don't remember that, but ok [04:36] You know, reinstalling lilo from a cd on a softraid-device [04:36] I worked at it for about 5 hours and didn't get it running [04:36] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [04:37] yeah - softraid's are a little fun. one way is to have a boot partition with kernel/initrd, then softraid the others [04:37] or do a netboot option [04:42] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-7.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] diabel (n=dziergaj@xdsl-1230.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:48] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-107-189.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:50] alisonken1noc: eh [04:50] dexom (n=frb@p5B0EDC69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] alisonken1noc: I thought sort could do it [04:52] sort goes by ascii unless give the -n option, but I think there's limitations when there's hyphens/dots/stuff in there [04:53] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-107-189.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:53] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:56] mmmm pizza rolls. [04:56] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] mmmm microwave reheated steak [04:57] cheater. [04:58] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [05:01] [007aLinux] (n=[007aLin@113.11.36.196) joined ##slackware. [05:01] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [05:01] <[007aLinux]> Anyone here? [05:01] Action: quasar looks [05:01] yep, about 300 total, why? [05:03] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." 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[05:09] alisonken1noc: yes,i made use of webmin module to apply the changes, [05:09] not good [05:09] what confusing me is i'm still able to see and use the files of those partitions [05:09] I'm lost on trying to figure out if he's wanting to delete the partitions or restore them [05:10] restore [05:10] restore them [05:10] i did it by mistake, [05:10] or rather, undo the changes before rebooting [05:10] m-mornun [05:10] there's a utility that I used not too long ago, lemme see if I can find it [05:10] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-218-222.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:11] ah, Testdisk [05:11] tesdisk, [05:11] ok, [05:11] make sure you raed the documentation 4 times, take a coffee break and read it again.. a lot of good info in it [05:12] looks like army... do that,...do that roger...etc..lol [05:14] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk is the url, if you need it still [05:14] dexom (n=frb@p5B0EDC69.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [05:20] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-7.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:22] quasar: yepeeee [05:23] quasar: i has shown the lost partitions,would you mind helping restore it [05:23] s/i/it/ [05:23] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step [05:24] ty :) [05:24] like I said, read the documentation.. it's _all_ in there [05:24] np [05:24] bbiab, movie :) [05:24] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.75.16) left irc: "later." [05:25] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:26] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [05:34] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [05:34] testdisk segfaulted [05:34] typically due to shared lib issues - is testdisk dynamic or static? [05:34] testdisk segfaulted trying to list files. :( [05:35] alisonken1noc: it is shared, i guess, [05:35] if you can, do "file testdisk" - it will tell you which it is [05:36] alisonken1noc: [05:36] alisonken1noc: dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [05:37] ok - it's not compiled against the version of shared libs you have installed - try "ldd testdisk" [05:37] actually, that won't help much other than telling you which libs it's linked against [05:38] see if testdisk has a staticaclly compiled version available [05:38] alisonken1noc: ok, [05:38] pwc101 (n=pwc101@139.166.248.124) joined ##slackware. [05:39] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left irc: "leaving" [05:43] or compile it yourself, the source is available [05:43] quasar: unknown state on his hard drive after deleting partitions - I wouldn't trust a compile unless he has a backup system with the same distro version [05:50] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:50] roger-D (n=aayush@61.17.22.5) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [05:50] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Geez it seems kernel 2.6.31 is broken.;> [05:57] Same config and horrible system lag. [05:58] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.192) joined ##slackware. [05:58] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [05:59] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-0-94-55.leed.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[06:17] hi [06:17] giuppy (n=giuppy@host36-160-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:17] and it he already rebooted, forget it [06:17] yep [06:18] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-9-29-131.manc.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [06:18] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [06:19] DrPepper (n=123@213.167.204.180) joined ##slackware. [06:20] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:21] hello [06:21] olleh [06:22] fatalnix_ (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:23] fatalnix_ (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:40] nope [06:40] Action: C00re is not here [06:40] yes [06:40] bi [06:40] ni [06:40] i'me here, 12:40 PM at home =) [06:41] 0342 here [06:41] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:41] alisonken1home, you haven't yet sleep so ? [06:42] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [06:42] `[007-aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.196) left ##slackware. [06:42] graveyard shift - I sleep during the day [06:43] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) joined ##slackware. [06:44] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.56.149) joined ##slackware. [06:46] anyone tried giving GoldFish (postfix autoresponder) a shot? x-post to #postfix [06:47] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [06:47] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:02] DrPepper (n=123@213.167.204.180) left ##slackware. [07:02] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:03] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [07:06] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.56.149) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:06] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.178.85) joined ##slackware. [07:07] hi there! :) [07:07] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:07] hi [07:08] hi [07:09] hey there! [07:09] i bought an FPGA :) [07:10] that will be fun to mess with :) [07:11] my router says i do 10-20GB of upload a day seeding slack [07:11] hi alisonken1home [07:11] metrofox: yo [07:12] alisonken1home, how is going? :) [07:12] edman007, jeez! I salute you sir [07:12] :D [07:13] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-145-160-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [07:13] boxing up drives for rma returns [07:13] :( [07:13] alisonken1noc, why did you break the drives? [07:13] four boxes packed, working on another 2 [07:14] edman007: when you have as many as we have, it's normal [07:14] how many do you have? [07:14] I'm just not so sure about the _quantity_ of breakage I've been getting [07:14] i dunno, maybe 10K? [07:14] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-107-189.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:15] sweet, i got paid and didn' [07:15] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [07:15] t even go to work [07:15] and thats a lot of drives [07:16] when you have a server farm, you have a lot of drives :) [07:17] well send me some of the non-broken ones [07:17] I'm still trying to find replacements for some of them [07:17] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:18] oh, and i got an email saying i have "8547 USD" from Western union! oh yea [07:18] lol [07:18] and it comes with an exe! [07:18] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-bxvrofvxezznzvwd) joined ##slackware. [07:19] such a deal - AND an exe to boot! Definitely a deal :) [07:19] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.222.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:19] :) [07:19] well time to go, bye [07:23] edman007: mine said 8391 USD [07:23] what did you do to rate more? ;) [07:23] he's been here longer [07:24] been where longer? [07:24] here [07:24] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-146-196-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [07:25] i drank 2L of beer [07:25] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-hriumxksqhtsxpya) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [07:26] spook: on my drunk day of the year when I was drinking, that would cover the snack [07:26] that was my breakfast [07:26] :) [07:26] then i had more for lunch [07:27] though really i never left [07:28] screugneugneu [07:31] tooly (n=tooly@e178150020.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:38] mornin [07:40] should i expect a similar email about money? :) [07:41] just post your address and we'll forward [07:41] k [07:41] actually, you deserve the entire spam folder of this account :D [07:41] gmail can handle it [07:41] or how about just the zip file so you don't have to read the message? [07:42] nah [07:42] they've already found me; i even get spam from me to me [07:42] how long you have to stay in FL? [07:42] i'm not sure [07:42] yeah ... forged headers [07:42] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.57.179.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [07:42] until i hear the "Go" sound [07:43] train at the station [07:43] we moved here from FL [07:43] where? cn? [07:43] yes ... from Pensacola [07:43] k [07:43] lower alabama [07:43] one thing I miss from P'cola ... Cox cable [07:44] k [07:44] we lived on Pensacola Bay in an area with a bunch of old people who seldom if ever used internet [07:47] how long are you to be in .cn? [07:49] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:49] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[08:00] Quiznos: no idea,it seems cool and fast [08:00] k [08:00] Quiznos: just stumbled up on that, [08:00] Man-erg (n=meck@93.40.70.168) left irc: "leaving" [08:00] yea [08:01] i need a [ht]tp host [08:01] one that isnt gonna screw me on eula terms tho [08:01] :D [08:01] [fh]t?yp [08:01] ftp/http [08:03] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:03] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-77-45.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:03] flash is really being a hinderance to console surfing the 'good stuff' [08:03] Quiznos: try that as guest, [08:03] i might just reg instead [08:03] seem nice but guest theme is girlish, [08:03] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] :D [08:04] k [08:04] Action: init[1] brb food, [08:05] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.56.149) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:06] otherway? [08:08] how much longer [08:08] "to be" future tense [08:08] 12 refused connections to freenode this morning before i got in [08:09] k [08:10] is that a really bad thing? i mean irc is so addictive :) [08:12] for life afaik [08:12] ok [08:12] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.16.120) joined ##slackware. [08:12] walk in the light. [08:13] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.175) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-107-189.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:16] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [08:16] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.204) left irc: Connection timed out [08:17] gnubien (n=e@251.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:19] donoban (i=1000@77.211.157.3) joined ##slackware. [08:22] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) joined ##slackware. [08:22] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.16.120) left irc: Client Quit [08:27] Action: init[1] silence befalls ##slackware [08:30] http://th06.deviantart.net/fs39/300W/i/2008/336/0/e/keep_quiet_by_firemisha.jpg [08:30] yskapell (n=gkapel@adsl9-18.her.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:30] hello [08:31] I just bought usb logitech headset but I hear the sound from the speakers and not from the headset [08:31] I run xfce and in xfce-mixer I choose the logitech usb but no luck [08:31] use alsamixer to turn on spkr [08:31] i mean phones [08:31] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:31] Quiznos: how? [08:32] use alsamixer [08:32] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:33] Quiznos: I have 4 choices in alsamixer... Maste, PCM IEC958 IEC958 default pcm [08:33] red the manpage pls [08:33] read [08:34] Action: init[1] some day i will meet Quiznos in person ;) [08:38] are you saying rtfm and stfw [08:39] haldir: no,i had intention of actually meeting him :) [08:41] Action: init[1] oops, [08:41] you must post pics then [08:41] sure,:D [08:41] Ojg (n=Ojg@nl-157-179.nl.bth.se) joined ##slackware. [08:41] haldir: http://www.theteebank.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/rtfm.jpg [08:43] Ojg (n=Ojg@nl-157-179.nl.bth.se) left irc: Client Quit [08:43] i would say darn chicoms but don't want to offend anyone [08:45] yskaspell: did you unmute everything when you ran #alsamixer? [08:47] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.16.120) joined ##slackware. [08:48] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.16.120) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:55] Action: hitest is happy that it is the weekend:) [08:57] hitest: is it saturday here already? [08:57] s/here/there/ [08:57] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.172) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [08:59] yskapell (n=gkapel@adsl9-18.her.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [09:00] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [09:01] hmm, i don't suppose anybody here uses dell md3000i device or ax4-5i ? [09:03] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:04] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [09:04] linuxexpert_ (n=chatzill@124.43.152.106) joined ##slackware. [09:06] init[1]: ha-ha [09:07] nope, just anticipating the time off from the daily grind. [09:08] foofs there is till 6hrs lef for saturday [09:08] every day is saturday here. [09:08] s/left/ [09:08] nice [09:08] that's why all the good book stores are closed too.. damn it. [09:09] quasar: are book stores closed during saturdays [09:09] the good ones here are [09:09] bummer [09:09] taking a day off just means having to do the same amount of work in a shorter time span :-) [09:09] the lame ones (Mardels, etc) are open though [09:09] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435995.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:10] but then, I'm still trying to figure out how the hell we can have a Hard Rock Casino but no Hard Rock Cafe [09:10] quasar: do you play the tables? [09:11] haven't in a loooong time [09:11] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:11] girlfriend is kinda.. against.. that kind of stuff -_- [09:11] yeah [09:11] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:11] haven't gambled myself for years [09:12] best friend says she doesn't like it because I always come home with less than I left home with.. but that's not true [09:13] ignobel prizes: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26154821-23109,00.html [09:14] last time I gambled in Reno I came away with more than I started with...good times:) [09:15] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [09:15] hitest: blackjack has highest odds of winning [09:15] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.76.198) joined ##slackware. [09:17] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD89B09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:17] gnubien: I'm strictly a n00b gambler. my idea of a good time was paying the slots and keno, getting quietly drunk in the process. [09:17] playing [09:18] hitest: slots are set to return 1 bux for every 6 bux you feed it [09:18] Noryungi (i=[oC6sHI6@panix3.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [09:18] yeah, I know I was very lucky the last time out:) [09:19] best thing to play is craps. [09:19] fun? [09:19] hitest: yep, it's all about the timing [09:19] does pkgtools check for file collisions? [09:19] in my opinion it's better than blackjack. [09:19] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:19] archiebenedict: probably not [09:19] fascinating story on non-verbal communication it's influence [09:19] archiebenedict: depends on what you call file collisiones [09:19] oops [09:19] s/collisiones/collisions [09:20] like if i made a slackbuild for a package, and it wanted to install a file in a place that already has a file from another package by the same name [09:20] what would pkgtools do? [09:20] fascinating story on non-verbal communication it's influence @online.wsj.com, google "why generation-y cant read nonverbal cues" [09:21] the file would be overwriten [09:21] archiebenedict: probably replace the old file [09:21] hmm [09:21] archiebenedict: you have to be careful when creating packages [09:21] archiebenedict: you would need to specify what you want to happen in the doinst.sh [09:21] no, you are wrong Noryungi. [09:21] creating a package (with a sbo at least) will cause no harm. [09:21] nothing will be installed. [09:22] agentc0re: depends on how you create the package [09:22] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [09:22] agentc0re: in the case mentioned by archiebenedict I am pretty sure the old file would be overwritten [09:22] agentc0re: on the other hand, I may be wrong [09:22] and typically you would want a file to be overwritten because you are upgrading that package with a newer, up to date one. [09:23] agentc0re: that's one case [09:23] linuxexpert (n=chatzill@124.43.57.38) left irc: Connection timed out [09:23] agentc0re: you may also want TWO versions of the same software, for testing purposes [09:23] agentc0re: thats one case, and there are some packages that kind of fight over files [09:23] so xyz-foobar-1.20 should be able to co-exist with xyz-foobar-2.25 for instance [09:23] then change the prefix path from /usr to something else. *shrug [09:24] firedix (n=firedix@host252.200-117-59.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:24] agentc0re: correct [09:24] is there a way to make pkgtools check and give a warning? [09:24] agentc0re: most specific packages can go into /opt for instance [09:24] archiebenedict: man pkg_add :-) [09:25] archiebenedict: no, you have to modify the buildscript to place it else where as to not conflict with the other version of the same package. [09:25] also, see what Zordrak said: doinst.sh [09:25] man pkg_add doesnt work Noryungi but man installpkg does [09:26] it's a simple if ... test in a shell script [09:26] but if that package has lib's that need to be accessed, you'll need to add that to your path and possibly more.. This is where i am not sure what you'd need to do nor do i know what package you're talking about. [09:26] archiebenedict: my bad [09:26] archiebenedict: too much work under BSD and solaris... I get confused [09:26] sorry ;-) [09:26] and it looks like theres an option for it [09:26] thanks [09:26] you are welcome [09:26] installpkg --warn foo [09:27] there you go [09:27] it checks if something will be overwritten or removed [09:27] there should be an option for testing only [09:27] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD89AD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:27] what you mean like --root? [09:28] hmmmm ... not on my slack machine right now [09:28] you may be right [09:28] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:28] that allows you to install to another directory, instead of / [09:28] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [09:28] that could be a solution as well [09:29] archiebenedict: simple question. what are you creating a package for that might overwrite existing files? [09:30] just wondering how flexible pkgtools is [09:31] not too flexible ;-) [09:31] just right - the way I like it [09:31] Noryungi: no. its extremely flexible [09:31] im trying to see if i can make portage use slackbuilds instead of ebuilds, since the only difference between them is dependency resolution [09:31] thats the point [09:31] its just not automatic [09:31] it does precisely what it's told to and nothing more [09:31] like the rest of slack [09:31] thats why i <3 it [09:32] Zordrak: that's what I meant ;-) [09:32] archiebenedict: portage? You, heathen! ;-) [09:32] yeah i dont know why everyone hates it so much [09:32] archiebenedict: you would be better off just using sbopkg [09:32] if you want true ports(tm) you should switch to BSD really [09:33] but theres no dependency resolution [09:33] would like to know what kind of results it produces under gentoo [09:33] Zordrak: Oh ya, archiebenedict is trying to add portage to slack... i forgot about that. [09:33] hmmm switch to bsd [09:33] agentc0re: orite [09:33] fail [09:33] adding portage to slack? Heresy! :-D [09:33] archiebenedict: freebsd is solid [09:33] pointless [09:33] archiebenedict: another option is to use pkgsrc on slack, but last time i checked it was available only for older versions of slack [09:34] ananke: should work with v13 [09:34] ananke: no reason it should not, installation should be the same [09:34] (more or less) [09:34] pkgsrc, is that like src2pkg? [09:34] no, it's netbsd's ports [09:34] hmm, is that like... portage? [09:34] agentc0re: pkgsrc = NetBSD ports [09:34] oh it's portage's father! [09:34] ah [09:35] yeah, and BOB is your dad ;-) [09:35] I have totally missed the whole point of this theoretical exercise... if there is one [09:35] i've never used BSD. [09:35] Zordrak: heresy [09:35] http://code.google.com/p/pkgsrc-on-slack/ [09:35] Zordrak: pure & simple [09:35] agentc0re: BSD are great [09:35] :/ [09:35] meh, the point in the long run is to make a lot more people use portage [09:35] Zordrak: he was sneakily asking questions for his portage to slack project..... go grab the guns now. [09:36] agentc0re: as far as i am concerned, it's slack or BSD [09:36] or ports if it works better [09:36] let me put it another way [09:36] archiebenedict: true slack users won't use it [09:36] what would be the point in running portage on slack? [09:36] i wouldnt want true slackers to use it [09:36] slackpkg, sbopkg and those dependency solvers i wont name already cover ith all [09:36] archiebenedict: careful, now, these statements could get you bruned at the stake... ;-) [09:37] Zordrak: to me, gentoo itself is nothing more than an awesome package manager that can somehow boot [09:37] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [09:37] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Client Quit [09:37] archiebenedict: a fairly good definition of gentoo, i have to agree [09:37] its like a toolchain with a big dependency tree [09:37] that really doesnt answer my question [09:37] whether you like gentoo or not, portage is probably the most advance solution out there [09:37] urg. [09:37] the way i see it is simple: if i want dependency resolution and ease of package management, i simply don't use slackware. [09:37] the thing that separates distros mostly is just what versions they run and what package manager they use [09:37] thrice`: hmmmm... ever used pkgsrc? [09:37] yes [09:37] welcome to ##slackware where we have daily package manager arguments [09:38] but with portage the versions dont matter as much [09:38] spook: LOL [09:38] spook: yep :) [09:38] but not only does portage let you tweak deps as you resolve it, but even configure options on a global level [09:38] Action: init[1] cat slackware| grep gentoo [09:38] I think I'm going to end up putting CentOS on my file server [09:38] spook, :D [09:38] i'm really starting to grow tired of this channel [09:38] spook: then leave [09:38] fatalnix_ (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] straterra: nice distro [09:38] straterra: too lazy [09:38] Then shut the hell up about it [09:38] spook, too slack [09:38] if i used portage to install all the packages and versions that ubuntu had, then i would basically have ubuntu would i not? [09:38] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435995.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:39] archiebenedict: you'd need all of their patches.. [09:39] So, rewritten ebuilds.. [09:39] archiebenedict: of knowledge, much lacking you are [09:39] straterra: not really [09:39] i mean yeah i'd need their patches [09:39] spook: it's still better than daily whine sessions over issues in personal life, as seen from certain individuals [09:39] but theyre right here http://patches.ubuntu.com/ [09:39] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:39] ananke: yeah true. [09:39] archiebenedict: oh boy, what's the point? [09:40] archiebenedict: right..and you'd have to modify Gentoo's ebuilds for those patches [09:40] archiebenedict: you can't just pick & choose [09:40] it's like 1 line [09:40] archiebenedict: you'll end up with a mess [09:40] for a lot of packages [09:40] ananke: but just, urg, trying to be frankenstein with package managers and distros... just dont have the energy to argue anymore [09:40] also, i dont think ubuntu uses the prefix of /usr when compiling.. [09:40] but the point is that theoretically, every distro could have compatible binaries [09:40] archiebenedict: my question remains unanswered [09:40] misspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [09:40] archiebenedict: they are compatible [09:40] Noryungi: barely [09:41] spook: indeed [09:41] Zordrak: you won't get an answer I am afraid ;-) [09:41] or you know, just tired from drinking [09:41] Zordrak: ... I should have added: as long as you compile from source ;-) [09:41] All we need is Q***** with his toast package manager to pipe in, and the party can start. [09:41] ananke: Sometimes those days are fun... Grab some popcorn and watch the lines scroll. [09:41] and thats what slackers and gentoo people do [09:41] Noryungi: you arent making any sense [09:41] let archiebenedict answer [09:42] Action: thrice` doesn't mind discussing other distros :\ [09:42] agentc0re: lol [09:42] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [09:42] Action: Noryungi (shuts the hell up - this is going to be entertaining!) [09:42] BP{k}: yeah :) [09:43] its matter of choice, if you like use it, don't then don't [09:43] so say i make a profile for portage, that followed slackwares package versions as a base. you have to explicitly make it upgrade any of these packages, instead of how it does now where every day it would recompile half your system [09:43] and you can install whatever else is in the portae tree. 10k packages vs the 1k that come with slackware [09:43] oh boy [09:43] what if it used slackbuilds if available and only used portage for dependency resolution [09:43] you'd have a really tough time separating portage stuff from slackware stuff [09:44] archiebenedict: keep digging a deep hole... [09:44] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:44] it is a deep hole [09:44] archiebenedict: you are going to have to redefine the word epic to describe the fail you are heading for [09:44] Zordrak++ [09:44] LOL [09:44] that's a great line. [09:44] LOL [09:45] Action: init[1] :D [09:45] Zordrak: classic:) [09:45] i dont really see the problem with making two distros more compatible [09:45] brb though [09:45] archiebenedict: you might as well re-engineer petrol as it comes out of the pump so you can put it in a diesel... instead of just using the diesel pump right next to it [09:45] Zordrak: a cat is fine too [09:45] archiebenedict: then, as I have said: much lacking in knowledge, this one is [09:46] im making an engine that doesnt care if you put diesel, petrol, or dog shit in it [09:46] superGuest (n=hooh@190.167.133.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:46] archiebenedict: slackware is under GPL do whatever you like :)[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C [09:46] archiebenedict: no. [09:46] omg! [09:46] oops [09:46] archiebenedict: the OS is the engine [09:46] lol [09:46] youre dhesigning a converter that will take any fuel and make it diesel [09:46] so the only "dependency" checking i wish there was is if SBo's were built that if they required xy&z that when you used sbopkg it would add those to the queue for you. But reading the damn README isn't that damn hard and neither is finding those other builds. [09:46] and im pretty much making my own... from the best parts of all of them [09:46] archiebenedict: it just won't work. gentoo's core is BUILT around portage, basically [09:46] you can't just take the package manager portion and stick on top of something else [09:47] thrice`: you can... if you rewrite portage entirely [09:47] thrice`: and then it's not slackware anymore [09:47] that's not portage, though [09:47] all the code is there for me to modify [09:47] Noryungi: then its not portage [09:47] plus, portage has a lot of things that either havent been fixed or added because of politics [09:47] aahm [09:47] archiebenedict: to suceed in what you want to do you will end up creating a new distro that is a combination of slack and gentoo [09:47] thrice` & init[1] : and it's not portage. Agreed. [09:47] Noryungi: yeah, but, why would you want to? [09:47] spook: really? Like? [09:47] and will probably fail [09:47] Zordrak: i know [09:47] archiebenedict: go ask in ##slacktoo :) [09:48] thrice`: just what i hear some gentoo friends whinging about [09:48] hitest: don't ask me, ask archiebenedict [09:48] Zordrak: nice name, [09:48] hitest: I'll stick to slack, thankyouverymuch [09:48] spook: So..in other words..you're spreading FUD [09:49] Noryungi: yep. me too [09:49] straterra: nothing new for this channel [09:49] s/channel/me/g [09:49] i dont expect many other slackware users besides me to like it [09:49] archiebenedict: good, because, so far, you haven't got a lot of support here! ;-) [09:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.68.159) joined ##slackware. [09:50] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:50] archiebenedict: simple question number two: are you intending to make a package manager or a distribution [09:50] if a) You will fail [09:50] but I have to say the whole Rube Goldberg contraption was good for a laugh [09:50] if b) have fun.. good luck with that [09:50] and, what's the reason for not simply using gentoo, if you enjoy portage so much? [09:50] Zordrak: if a) you will fail and if b) you will fail [09:51] Noryungi: no [09:51] Zordrak: there, fixed that for you ;-) [09:51] how will it even be different from gentoo? [09:51] Noryungi: your b) assumes a lack of capacity [09:51] Building a distro isn't that hard [09:51] Noryungi: i dont know how good he is at distro genesis [09:51] Noryungi: you can make a distro quite easily these days [09:52] Noryungi: because yo ustart from a clean base and go from there [09:52] starting with a clusterfuck combination of slackware and gentoo.. THAT will fail [09:52] straterra: tracking the updates are hard, [09:52] Zordrak: go ahead and help him with slacktoo then. Go ahead, I'll wait for you here... ;-) [09:52] What updates? [09:52] Noryungi: i have no such intention [09:52] Noryungi: just stop correcting me incorrectly [09:52] Zordrak: *phew* I was worried for a second there ;-) [09:53] if i say it.. thats what i mean [09:53] straterra: i'm security and other package updates,of the new distro we build, thats the whole reason i stopped using LFS, [09:53] s/i'm/i mean/ [09:53] ``jedi mind tricks: http request smuggling'' lol [09:53] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.76.198) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] all i see this ending is a poorly made clone of gentoo [09:54] spook: hybrid clone, [09:54] spook: i need to trademark SlackToo quickly ;) [09:54] Zordrak: too late [09:54] mmm, found new lisp implementation, Lysp [09:55] fatalnix_ (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:55] and gentoo itself is something that I have never understood: i like my machines to work, not recompile world every other day [09:55] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.178.85) left irc: "Segmentation Fault" [09:55] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [09:55] You..don't recompile world every other day [09:55] straterra: then you're doing it wrong [09:55] straterra: I said every other day ;-) [09:56] i don't get the whole of recompiling the entire system, other that what requires optimization [09:56] init[1]: you don't recompile the whole system.. [09:56] init[1]: my point precisely [09:56] Unless you make some cflag changes or something and you want everything to have it [09:56] straterra: i mean gentoo case, [09:56] ``[lysp] started with 150 LOC; then it grew to bloat to a 17k binary'' LOL [09:56] Zordrak: the final incarnation would be sladebuntoodora [09:56] You don't even compile the toolchain yourself at first any more [09:56] copyright that [09:57] ignoring straterror is insufficient.. i need to drop ALL lines containing his nick... i can tell what he's up to by the responses :) [09:57] straterra: but.... that means your toolchain isnt OPTIMISED FOR YOUR HARDWARE! [09:57] Zordrak for which client? [09:57] spook: :D [09:57] Quiznos: you too [09:57] :D [09:57] i know but which irc client? [09:57] irssi of course [09:57] Zordrak: Publically announcing ignores all the time is so 1993 [09:58] Action: spook points at CTCP VERSION [09:58] but from what i can tell, there are enough similarities in gentoo and slack to make at least tis first step work [09:58] Zordrak: what else? [09:58] Zordrak try, /ignore -nick all [09:58] or /ig [09:58] lemme know if you ignore me. [09:58] heh [09:58] i might tag your nick.. but only one person here truly deserves epic disdain [09:58] all right question time [09:58] yea w.e. ok [09:59] they both install from unmodified source if possible. and it's easy enough to find any distro specific patches from any distro thanks to the goodness of the gpl [09:59] you're the coward :) [09:59] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [09:59] slack13 - DVD - installs both x86-32 and x86-64 versions or just 32 bits? [09:59] 32 bi [09:59] Noryungi: double lided [09:59] both, its a dual side [09:59] *sided [09:59] one on each [09:59] oh the one you buy. nevermind. [09:59] Double lided dvd's! [09:59] 64-bit does not contain 32bit libs [10:00] slacker v13 [10:00] Zordrak: the iso version from ftp.slackware.com as well? [10:00] Noryungi: no [10:00] the dvd looks cool too [10:00] wow slackytu1e is back :) [10:00] does it support PAE ? [10:00] Noryungi: most mirrors have a 32 and 64bit dirs [10:00] Noryungi: there are two ISOs.. the retail DVD has both ISOs on two sides of one disc [10:00] linuxexpert_: linux does [10:00] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.171.151) joined ##slackware. [10:00] linuxexpert_: read docs, [10:00] Zordrak: got it, thx [10:00] Action: linuxexpert_ reading docs [10:01] yo #slackware, I am happy for ya and I'll let you finish, but ##ubuntu is one of the crowdest channels of all time [10:01] dios_mio: then go there & leave, please [10:01] lol [10:01] Doh..we just got gay fished [10:01] Noryungi: lol. kanyeed [10:01] yay September is done!!! [10:01] dios_mio: are you a developer ? [10:01] lol [10:01] it's cold in florida [10:01] linuxexpert_: no [10:02] dios_mio: yo dawg.. we herd you like old jokes so we put an old joke in your old joke so you can get punched while you get punched [10:02] ibm is tryin to out-mail gmail-service [10:02] Action: init[1] frankly ##slackware is addictive,he's unable to leave the channel [10:02] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [10:02] I can quit anytime [10:02] Zordrak: lol [10:03] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.73.14) joined ##slackware. [10:03] slackytu1e yea sure [10:04] keep tellin yourself that. [10:04] Action: init[1] mind you ,i'm gona see doctor for this, [10:04] yea yea, sure sure (another exclusive macro by Quiznos) [10:04] ##slackware-accute-join-syndrome :D [10:05] #OCD [10:05] hello, my name is Noryungi and I... (gulp)... I... I am a ##slackware addict! (sob sob sob) [10:06] Noryungi: then how come i dont recall ever seeing you here before...? [10:06] lol [10:06] hi Noryungi [10:06] time to start tagging people [10:07] i've fallen behind [10:07] heh [10:07] be brave young fool; we were where you are. [10:07] you will soon be where we are [10:07] la la la OOM OOM OOM [10:07] tra lala [10:07] i am the penguin (walrus) [10:07] lol [10:07] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:08] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] swiing [10:08] and a miss [10:08] batta batta batta [10:08] schwing [10:08] Noryungi: the cure is .... archlinux! [10:08] not swiing [10:08] :D [10:08] damn, see what you done [10:09] Quiznos: blowing smoxe or smoking blow? [10:09] now i need to see Ferrsi [10:09] Ferris [10:09] huh? [10:09] Quiznos: blowing smoke or smoking blow? [10:09] ah [10:09] thawt so; neither [10:09] lets see... [10:09] Zordrak: both! [10:09] holy shit [10:09] Mariah Carey was signing on NBC's intersetion this morning [10:09] omg she's someth. [10:09] is there any dirty trick to know if we are in ignore list ? ;) [10:09] just clicked with CTRL+Mouse on a xterm [10:09] send a memo [10:09] it has a menu [10:09] whos actually been bearable lately... [10:09] that irritates ppl [10:09] Zordrak: I don't remember seeing you here either! [10:09] lol [10:10] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) joined ##slackware. [10:10] init[1]: trolling ?! [10:10] init[1] i havent found a way yet [10:10] Noryungi: im the most active perso in here for 9-5 GMT -- ask #slackboy [10:10] snL20 he's a troll-in-practice [10:10] Noryungi: soooooo yeah [10:10] Quiznos: lol [10:10] :) [10:11] i'm tehTroll [10:11] snL20 see, i've developed a new theory on the methods and practice of trolling [10:11] Action: slackytu1e is tired [10:11] snL20 it is ``a method of mental abuse; it is NOT about roodness.'' [10:11] lol [10:12] trp [10:12] i'd like to welcome init[1] as the latest good tagged person, and Quiznos straterra linuxexpert_ and keiffer as being bad tagged. [10:12] the point is to watch a vein burst or get really close. [10:12] Quiznos: buckwild! [10:12] me ? [10:12] lol [10:12] spook: O_O [10:12] I am goooood [10:12] spook I HELPED YOU YESTERDAY!!! [10:12] i object! [10:12] spook: i still have init[1] in red [10:12] Quiznos: overruled [10:12] Zordrak: hes been good lately. [10:12] pff [10:12] Appeal 2nd [10:13] Zordrak: :( [10:13] i like green, [10:13] Zordrak: especially with the funnies [10:13] your loss [10:13] what about me ? I'm also good and beatiful [10:13] spook: will have to give it more time [10:13] guax (n=guaxinim@200.146.46.130) joined ##slackware. [10:13] I plead the third! [10:13] Zordrak: all my apologies, kind sir! [10:13] Zordrak: do you have a life? :-) [10:13] i plead the 1st! [10:14] Action: snL20 pleads the tenth [10:14] Action: Quiznos pleases the Truth. [10:14] pleads [10:14] both :) [10:14] spook: Red: fredoslack, init[1], Foke, bijit, Thom1, sos, Quiznos, pi31415 [10:15] spook: straterra is still in his own colour from before he went /i [10:15] spook: No one cares how you tag people [10:15] who are those names [10:15] straterra: well, the backlog would tend to disagree with you [10:15] OK, Slackware 13 installation on my dual-core Athlon64 tonight! Yes! 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[10:17] lol,those are green signal [10:18] Quiznos: if you cant work it out from the names in the list.. you have my pity [10:18] ok [10:18] Action: Dominian slaps Zordrak [10:18] actually red is love isn't it ? [10:19] Action: Zordrak covered his face in jam in preparation [10:19] Action: Zordrak hands Dominian a towel [10:19] hehe [10:19] Action: init[1] some day he will be in green list :( [10:20] init[1]: you're in my green list now sssh [10:20] Action: init[1] sssh, ok :D [10:20] i hope it stays wet in suzuka= [10:21] could be an epic race [10:21] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:21] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.192) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:23] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:23] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [10:24] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Where does xhost store it's records? 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[10:31] definite proof that ##slackware is not here for help. ;) [10:31] heh [10:31] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fmoefnaebuwwsvty) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [10:32] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [10:32] omg! [10:32] is help banned here ? [10:33] yes [10:33] and... wait for it... Nothing is sacred. [10:33] spook: i remember a person called help40 [10:34] We have the highest reverence and faith in ... Nothing. [10:34] init[1]: hes now banned too [10:34] he created a real mess in #shellium [10:34] hm, [10:37] Im afraid of no ghost [10:38] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [10:39] oneself (n=oneself@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:39] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:41] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [10:42] tooly (n=tooly@e178150020.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [10:42] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:44] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [10:46] oh yeah.got my slackware book today :) [10:48] <|mel|> Does anyone of you `cdrecord' for burning CDs successfully? [10:48] i dont use anything else [10:50] <|mel|> Zordrak:Which version? [10:51] whichever ver is in slackwares 9 through 13 [10:51] well.. 7 through 13 [10:51] but im sure i only started burning cds somewhere into 9 or 10 [10:52] <|mel|> I once used cdrecord in Slackware 11, to write to a CD-RW, and the disc got corrupted. [10:53] bad media or bad writer [10:53] never had a probl/em that was cdrecord's fault [10:53] its only an interface really [10:53] <|mel|> I was able to write successfully from Windows though (even on the damaged disc). [10:54] k [10:54] <|mel|> Since I liked Slackware, I used to create the ISO images and then burn them from Windows. [10:54] giuppy (n=giuppy@host65-251-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:56] andriice (i=723b6c19@gateway/web/freenode/x-ngxntooyppaqtutk) joined ##slackware. [10:57] <|mel|> Zordrak: Do you use the `speed' parameter when burning? [10:57] no [10:58] -v -dao dev=x,x,x image [10:59] <|mel|> Zordrak: Thanks for the command-line. [11:00] retsudo (n=yagyu_re@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:00] solve for xy: where (x+y=15) && (x-7=-19) [11:01] retsudo (n=yagyu_re@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:01] oops [11:01] andriice (i=723b6c19@gateway/web/freenode/x-ngxntooyppaqtutk) left ##slackware. [11:01] solve for xy: where (x+y=15) && (x-y=-19) [11:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:01] x = you [11:01] y = fail [11:02] Zordrak: do you mind explaining your nick ? :) [11:02] eelriver (n=eelriver@c-24-130-112-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:02] i mean meaning [11:02] init[1]: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=zordrak [11:03] \o/ im not in ignored list of Zordrak :) [11:03] fail [11:03] Quiznos: x = -17 i think [11:04] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [11:04] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) left irc: "Leaving" [11:04] spook whats y? [11:04] Zordrak : The Lord of Nightmares and the principal antagonist of the series [11:04] indeed [11:05] Quiznos: 2 [11:05] k [11:05] agreed [11:05] -17 - 7 != -19 [11:06] Zordrak: uh, re read [11:06] orite [11:07] nah thats wrong. [11:07] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:07] which? [11:07] both [11:08] x=-17? y=2 :: (-17)+2 == w. [11:08] yea [11:09] i don't understand why other distributions are putting out CDs for people. WHY?! put out the @#$ing DVD! [11:09] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [11:09] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.136.19) joined ##slackware. [11:09] what's yer beef? [11:10] always do direct substitution [11:10] cow. [11:10] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97.117.116.126) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:10] y = 17 [11:11] x-y = -19 [11:11] x = y - 19 [11:11] Zordrak: i did, but it was in my head [11:12] y + (y - 19) = 15 [11:12] 2y - 19 = 15 [11:12] 2y = 34 [11:12] y = 17 [11:12] 2x=-4 [11:12] x+17 = 15 [11:12] x = -2 [11:12] yeah i thought the sign was off [11:12] x=-2 [11:12] yes. [11:13] y=17 [11:13] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [11:13] make one var the subject of one equation then subtitute it into the other one [11:13] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.12.209) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:13] substitution pwns elimination [11:13] heh [11:15] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.12.209) joined ##slackware. [11:16] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) joined ##slackware. [11:17] when does pat show up here ? [11:18] when he feels like it [11:18] i heard some day he had visted [11:18] asyncronisly [11:18] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] my legs hurt [11:18] init[1]: go grep the logs [11:18] damn alcohol [11:18] damn alcoholic 8-) 8-P [11:18] take a long walk; that'll relieve the pressure of the fluids collecting [11:19] shredder12 (n=sahni@proxy.iiit.ac.in) joined ##slackware. [11:19] mile out, mile back. [11:19] alrite i will grep it out :-/ [11:19] Quiznos: how about you do that, a mile out, a mile futher [11:19] to sea [11:19] without a boat [11:19] during a storm [11:20] it's simple physiological mechanics; walking causes muscles to squeeze and the fluids to circulate [11:20] its simple hate, i wish death apon you [11:20] donoban (i=1000@77.211.157.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] when you are still too long, the fluids press on the nerves [11:20] when you dont walk enuf [11:21] relief usually begins after about a 100 years [11:21] hey guys,,. i have slackware 12.0 installed on my desktop and after running for around 30 minutes,... the kacpid_notify and kacpid starts consuming a lot of memory and the system hangs.. how do i solve this problem [11:22] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-123-96.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] what are the conditions they show? [11:22] shredder12: my unhelpful answer is upgrade to 12.2 or 13.0 as it may well be an acpi bug as acpi was still a bit buggy back then [11:22] shredder12: any reason why you're using such old release? [11:22] as for a real dignostic solution.. i wouldnt say theres an easy one [11:23] unless you like trawling strace [11:23] which may be no help anyway [11:23] sorry.. they consume a lot of CPU ( not memory) and the system stops responding to keyboard and mouse.. [11:24] same answers apply [11:25] shredder12: again, why are you using 12.0? [11:25] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] no time to upgrade, maybe :P [11:26] Action: mako-sama checks what he's using [11:26] mako-sama: sounds like it's a fresh install [11:26] ananke: no time to download a new image? [11:26] nobody would be running a system since 12.0 release, and have it crash every 30 mins :) [11:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [11:26] mako-sama: how about letting him answer it? [11:26] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-59-207.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:26] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [11:26] chicago will not host games in 2016 [11:27] toyota suck [11:27] bamer lost [11:27] that official? [11:27] Quiznos: who will? [11:27] ananke: yes it is a fresh install..I got the ISOs from my friend .. so I didn't bother to download the new version ISOs [11:27] er, yep, it is [11:27] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:27] shredder12: you are WAY out of date [11:27] I never expected the 12the release to crash every 30 mins.. [11:27] shredder12: i would say use 12.2 or 13.. but because its a laptop: use 13 [11:27] Zordrak: ya, i guesss i will have to upgreade [11:27] shredder12: theres too many variables [11:28] Zordrak: its a desktop [11:28] oh [11:28] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [11:28] shredder12: i'd recommend using something newer. your hardware may not be compatible with those older drivers [11:28] dont know where i got laptop from [11:28] still .. go get 13 [11:28] hope Rio gets it, they deserve it [11:28] adupuis__ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [11:28] alright.. i guess i will install the 13th release.. [11:28] thanks for the suggestions [11:28] quasar: how do they 'deserve' it? :) [11:29] quasar: they deserve to be raped by their govenment in a vain attempt to generate some tourism? [11:29] South America has never hosted it [11:29] shredder12 (n=sahni@proxy.iiit.ac.in) left ##slackware. [11:29] maybe there's a reason it never did... [11:29] Action: Zordrak votes Cuba :) [11:29] and quite honestly, while i see your reason for wanting it, i doubt it falls under the category of 'deserving' [11:30] it's like saying that you deserve a bonus, simply because you never have gotten one before. not getting it in the past is not sufficient enough reason [11:30] Zordrak: now that would be interesting :) [11:31] not getting one before is a reason NOT to get one [11:31] .. if you have sucked for years.. why wouldnt you still suck :) [11:31] actually, yes it is.. if you understood how the IOC worked [11:32] but then the olympics is massively wasteful political bullshit anyways [11:32] every sport has its own world championship for a reason [11:32] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.171.151) left irc: "leaving" [11:33] collecting them all in a country-on-country medal war is just political bull and the cost involved in hosting it is so disturbingly wasteyul it would be more productive to have an explosion contest [11:33] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] ananke duno yet; but bamer lost. he's gotta be furious for wasting a trip over-seas [11:36] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-214-45-141.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Zordrak: that's where I semi-agree with you, when the IOC was formed it was initially for ameteur competitors, not pros like those that are participating today [11:39] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD89B09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:39] that statement makes absolutely no sense [11:40] how does it not? [11:40] if you dedicate most of your life to competing in a sport.. you are a professional.. no matter what your official day job is [11:41] even if the competition is only every four years [11:41] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-123-96.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:41] i don't know how you can complain that a sport is now filled with pros ... they're being professionals about the sport, that should be admirable [11:41] youre still dedigating yourself to beating everone else and keeping your eye in in competiton throughout the off season [11:41] s/dedigating/dedicating [11:41] that's red [11:42] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-124-230.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] g&c are next to each other [11:43] Action: TwinReverb disagrees [11:44] amateur doesn't equate to pro just because you've done it for a number of years, and if so where's the thin line? .. I mean, I played hockey for 4 years, does that make me a pro or did I go 1 week over the line? [11:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:48] no line can be draws thats the point [11:48] *drawn [11:48] the difference between pro and amateur in my opinion is this: a pro dedicates themselves to the sport [11:48] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:48] TwinReverb: other than school that's all I did, I'd consider that to be dedication [11:48] this is also the reason that there are lots of very good amateur musicians but not many pro [11:48] the difference between pro and amateur is being paid [11:48] if you're paid to play, then you're a pro [11:49] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [11:49] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: Client Quit [11:49] point is its just a choice [11:49] to me that's not the definition. any fool can get lucky. [11:49] TwinReverb i do that to trolling :) [11:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) joined ##slackware. [11:49] lol [11:49] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] you can choose to aim to be paid or choose to do it for the fun of it [11:49] TwinReverb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur [11:49] its still the same level of competiton [11:49] and a complete waste of time to separate it [11:50] but my problem isnt with it being an amateurs competition [11:50] quasar, oh and because wiki says it, it's the law [11:50] princeton says the same [11:50] its that the olympics itself is a complete waste of time and money just to replicate the same competitions that take place world wide every year.. but with added political bull [11:51] the bull is kinda new [11:51] more the money than the time [11:51] 20th century invention [11:51] same as the eurovision song contest [11:51] that its even still broadcast is an insane mystery [11:51] heh [11:51] Zordrak: I see your point, and from the looks of it, the political side of it may show its head even more than usual for the 2016 olympics [11:52] and more for 2020 and more for 2024 [11:52] a jp minister said that game might be the last [11:52] each time the crost escalating [11:52] *cost [11:52] i think it's a great opportunity for people of all kinds to come together and play sports with each other [11:52] Zordrak, there might be political pressures but i don't think it's that bad (yet) [11:52] still, this isn't ##olympics [11:52] it's all about Friendship, Unity, Caring, and Kindness [11:52] TwinReverb: I dunno, one of the former heads of the IOC was from Madrid.. [11:53] >.< [11:53] archiebenedict: what dreamworld do you live in? [11:53] look at the initials^^ [11:53] f. [11:53] u. [11:53] c. [11:53] heh [11:54] balls. [11:54] was on saturday night live [11:54] its about one thing [11:54] one single thing [11:54] penis size. [11:54] the ONLY real reason anyone justifies bidding for it [11:54] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@83.87.139.196) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Tourism [11:56] Spend 50 billion.. get 10 billion back in direct tourism and hope (but fail) to get another 40 bn back over time [11:56] misspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:56] one big advertising session [11:56] here it is: http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_70340_Jingleheimer_Junction.htm [11:56] true [11:57] misspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.124.229.10) joined ##slackware. [11:58] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] phamjod2228 (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Zordrak: would you be more in favor of the olympics if there was say, an island in the middle of nowhere that they were hosted on each time? [12:00] perhaps [12:00] like Guam? 8-) [12:00] Action: quasar doesn't care where they're hosted really [12:00] but would you trust iran not to nuke it?;) [12:00] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65209c4.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:00] depends on if there are Jewish people there or not :) [12:01] time to stop [12:01] right now :) [12:01] i accidentally deleted vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp. how to recreate it? i've got slack13-dvd [12:01] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:01] Nick change: linuxexpert_ -> linuxexpert [12:01] phamjod2228: re-install the kernel package [12:01] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-77-45.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:01] phamjod2228: hahaha that's a funny error. [12:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2012_phenomenon&oldid=317372587 read this and never speak of 2012 ever again [12:01] phamjod2228: try in a/kernel-generic-*.txz [12:02] and "upgradepkg --reinstall" :) [12:02] phamjod2228: But on the DVD there will be the kernels in package series A/ use installpkg ROOT=/mnt/your-mounted-root-partition with the kernel package [12:02] or you could just compile yourself a new one 8-) [12:02] TwinReverb: that will be extremely challenging if the system doesn't boot :P [12:02] make sure you have a backup working kernel. [12:02] Buggaboo: heh, also, it seems he already deleted the backup working kernel. [12:03] eviljames, bah real men just read their hard drives in binary 8-) [12:03] i doubt hes running generic [12:03] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] he'll be on huge [12:03] id put money on it [12:03] TwinReverb: can you recommend a good link for that job? [12:03] kamaji (n=kamaji@94-169-106-21.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:03] hm. it will be a _valuable_ experience then... [12:03] TwinReverb: I have an IDE cable plugged directly into my brain.. I'm obsolete [12:03] http://gizmodo.com/5372631/man-arrested-at-apple-store-after-threatening-to-shoot-his-iphone-with-a-9mm-handgun?autoplay=true [12:03] :D [12:03] ide? [12:04] he's obsolete. [12:04] arre you sure its not centronix? [12:04] eviljames: telekineticr electron manipulation [12:04] hence the ide. [12:04] eviljames: i win this conversation again :) [12:04] hahah, nice [12:04] ATA isn't that obsolete. [12:04] not when you compare [12:05] fatalnix: uhh ATA is not obsolete at all [12:05] PARALLEL ATA maybe [12:05] oh feck. [12:05] I forgot the damn user:password for my damn vm guest. [12:05] Action: Zordrak golf claps Buggaboo [12:05] s/golf claps/golf clasps [12:06] > [12:06] heh [12:06] itf funny if you consider obsolete, when SCSI isn't, and IDE is newer. [12:07] XD [12:08] Action: Buggaboo deletes the qcow2 image [12:08] but then again, scsi is still improved. [12:09] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [12:09] Action: Zordrak is bored. Anyone got any homework they need doing? :) [12:09] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [12:09] Action: Zordrak is on chip-testing overtime... its a do something once an hour and sit around the rest of the time job [12:09] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Zordrak, can you solve the Riemann hypothesis for me... I have to hand it in by tomorrow. [12:13] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:13] DDup (n=DDup@115.155.73.58) joined ##slackware. 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[12:16] phamjod2228 (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) left irc: "leaving" [12:17] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:17] Buggaboo: maths sucks [12:17] i hate it [12:17] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:18] i hated it so much i didnt pay enougha ttention in the first year so had to repeat it [12:18] even as a physicist, i hate math :P [12:18] so i spent 3 years doing maths a-level [12:18] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:19] so in total instead of the usual 3 or 4, i now have approx 5.7 A-levels [12:19] A-levels? [12:19] (would be 5.5 but AS after about 2002 is about half an a-level.. before 2002 it was more like 2/3 or 3/4) [12:20] UK higher education [12:20] have you done calculus yet? [12:21] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [12:21] yht (n=yht@125.166.103.138) joined ##slackware. [12:21] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:22] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [12:22] calculus was like day 1 [12:23] actually touched on calculus at gcse [12:23] (secondary education) [12:23] lol [12:24] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:24] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [12:26] I quite liked maths A level, apart from the statistics module. Partly because we did the non-coursework options, and that was always a positive [12:26] aye [12:27] i had trouble with mechanics mostly... i still cant handle a question like.. this force is pulling the boat this much in 1 direction.. the other force is different in a different direction.. whats the resultant force [12:27] if the forces are the same i can [12:27] but they never are :) [12:27] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.73.14) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:27] Ah, vector stuff, yeah, if you have trouble with vectors M1 and M2 are torture :p [12:28] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-145-160-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] heh, electromagnetic theory is applied vector calculus >.> [12:28] as i said.. my main prloblem was i hated it.. so just didnt pay enough attention or work hard enough [12:28] no, electromagnetic theory is just physics, that a) doesn't make sense, b) isn't ever applied [12:28] i have a big problem with that.. if im intercested enough i can learn anything.. 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[12:31] ##slackware: mode change '-b help!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:31] Since there were four core modules and you took six altogether [12:31] on the modular course [12:31] altho, the more i study E&M, the more physical insight i get... method of images is such a powerful tool [12:31] i started on the 2year 2x3hr exam jobby [12:31] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-144-244-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] then moved into modular in its first year [12:32] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: "Real_Life();" [12:33] see physics was different.. i was interested.. so even though i slept through most of the first year i aced it [12:33] 116/120 [12:33] no idea why it was /120 [12:33] bloody physicists :) [12:33] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86.42.152.114) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:33] anavel (n=Zack@fm-ip-118.136.197.91.fast.net.id) joined ##slackware. [12:34] hahahah [12:34] stop hatin [12:35] hey better a physicist than a computerist [12:35] physicist are more self-deprecating and aware of their limitations [12:35] computerists are mostly morons with big egos [12:35] just ask straterror ;) [12:37] lol [12:37] hahaha [12:37] granted [12:37] i don't understand why other distributions are putting out CDs for people. WHY?! put out the @#$ing DVD! [12:37] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] slack still has a cd set :P [12:38] TwinReverb: we ignored that comment the first time :) [12:38] Action: TwinReverb stabs Zordrak [12:38] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-187-155-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] Action: Necos grins [12:38] Action: Zordrak has epic noticing skillz [12:40] hehehe [12:41] doovdo > vussre [12:41] er [12:41] doovde > vussre [12:43] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [12:44] wtf? [12:45] unless you've been near Channel 4 in the last 5 years it will go straight over your head [12:46] 4chan? [12:46] um [12:46] no [12:46] lol [12:46] well, it went over my head :) [12:46] www.channel4.com [12:49] mag0o (i=20001@74.255.51.210) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:49] mag0o (i=20001@74.255.51.210) joined ##slackware. [12:49] `[007aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.196) joined ##slackware. [12:49] <`[007aLinux]> Anyone here? [12:49] `[007aLinux]: nope, only you in here according to my nicklist :) [12:49] most retarded question around [12:50] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-144-244-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [12:50] slackboy needs to auto-ban that entryQ [12:50] any sugestion for jitter analysis? ill try iperf. [12:50] <`[007aLinux]> One confusion about kde in slackware. [12:50] Rio got it [12:50] guax: thefu? [12:51] Action: quasar cheers [12:51] guax: any suggestions for getting home, ill try driving... [12:51] <`[007aLinux]> Slackware compile the source code of kde and make it as .tgz format using the .Slackbuild script.Am i right? [12:52] `[007aLinux]: all but the tgz [12:52] in slack13 its txz [12:52] `[007aLinux]: yes, pretty much. you can view that source online, too [12:53] <`[007aLinux]> For example: if it's the kdegames source code ,how much time does it take to compile for pentium 4 processor? Anyone here with pentium 4 processor? [12:54] `[007aLinux]: just stop [12:54] `[007aLinux]: or ask a sensible question instead [12:55] <`[007aLinux]> Where would i get the .Slackbuild script to compile the kdegames? [12:56] `[007aLinux]: in the source [12:56] why not just install the package instead? [12:57] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) joined ##slackware. [12:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.124.229.10) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:00] anyone know how to enable multi-line prompts in rxvt? i have an especially long pwd and it doesn't flow to the next line. [13:01] it's an .Xresources trick yesyes [13:01] <`[007aLinux]> find . -perm 777 -exec chmod 755 {} \; Need explanation for this command . How does it work with exec? [13:02] `[007aLinux]: man find [13:02] thanks, Necos. I'll look it up. [13:03] its the same as `find . -perm 777 -print0 | xargs -0 chmodd 755` [13:03] s/dd/d/ [13:03] it's like -j [13:04] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.124.229.10) joined ##slackware. [13:04] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:05] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.31.218) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:05] Action: Zordrak has just been reminded about GamesMaster [13:05] what a frigging awesome show [13:05] Dominic Diamond ftw [13:06] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.62.163) joined ##slackware. [13:07] scunny_itch (n=sixx@212.183.134.128) joined ##slackware. [13:08] <`[007aLinux]> Zordrak: Got this slackbuild in ksirk , but can't get .Slackbuild in other kde games. [13:08] huh? [13:08] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-144-176-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Do not pm without permission [13:08] kthxbai [13:09] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:09] cal (n=cal@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:09] <`[007aLinux]> Where would i get the .Slackbuild script to compile whole kdegames?I downloaded the whole kdegames source. [13:10] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [13:10] Nick change: cal -> Guest20740 [13:10] <`[007aLinux]> I want to compile from source. [13:10] kdegames is part of slackware, therefore find it on any slackware mirror. [13:11] phzin (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [13:11] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:11] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Necos: thanks, urxvt -j seemed to do the trick. [13:12] <`[007aLinux]> fire|bird: Are you talking about precompiled kdegames.txg format? [13:12] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:12] keres_ (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] `[007aLinux]: txz [13:12] no, I'm talking .SlackBuild, etc. [13:13] hey mrselfpwn [13:13] heh fire|bird [13:13] hey [13:13] mrselfpwn: How's it going? [13:13] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@200.124.229.10) joined ##slackware. [13:13] yesyes, awesome :) [13:13] trying to figure out the time/day/and year still, i just woke up. [13:14] :) [13:14] Action: Zordrak points mrselfpwn at `date` [13:14] haha [13:14] woohoo, I'm getting my pandora soon. [13:14] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@200.124.229.10) left irc: Client Quit [13:14] okay, i didn't miss Christmas. [13:14] openpandora.org [13:14] err.. you missed it.. its next year now [13:15] damn [13:15] I ordered it last year around this time. [13:15] mrselfpwn: You were looking forward to Santa? :P [13:15] <`[007aLinux]> fire|bird: http://packages.slackware.it/package.php?q=13.0/kdegames-4.2.4-i486-1.txz , nothing as .Slackbuild script here. [13:15] After trying to re-install linux on this machine, I find that the primary HD has problems that do not allow lilo to install on the MBR of hda. Lilo complains: "The boot sector and map file are on different disks" & "Device 0x0300: Inconsistent partition table, 2nd entry". [13:15] I'm busy getting some emulator hm... data, to run some "tests" on the pandora. [13:15] no, mrs. claus. She always gets lonely during Christmas. [13:16] `[007aLinux]: ftp://ftp.slackware.com [13:16] now go [13:16] mrselfpwn: haha [13:16] :O i have 30 windows open [13:16] fdisk tells me that hda's "Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings" (and endings) [13:16] ;D [13:17] Zordrak: I have xbmc on both my desktop and laptop pc's now. It's awesome. \o/ [13:17] fire|bird: indeed it is [13:17] theres just one thing pissing me off [13:17] i cant work out how to minimize it or swap to another desktop [13:17] if its on it owns you [13:17] but i can live with it [13:18] Oh wait, that is for sda not hda... so scratch that... hda just reports hda1 and hda1 as it should. [13:18] Well, I'm able to minimize, but then I don't have it maximized to full screen [13:18] But I suppose there is a problem with the boot sector. [13:18] fire|bird: i use it exclusively in full screen [13:18] but in full screen i cant leave [13:19] <`[007aLinux]> Zordrak: Thank you. [13:19] Is there some non destrictive way to repair the boot sector? [13:19] <`[007aLinux]> mingdao: Are you here? [13:19] Zordrak: I'll mess around with it. If I come up with anything, I'll let you know. :) [13:19] Or how I can find out what is wrong with ti? [13:19] with it? [13:19] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-187-155-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:20] *destructive [13:20] fire|bird: kta [13:20] non-destructive? [13:20] Guest20740: "repair the boot sector" almost universally means "overwrite it with correct details." [13:20] eviljames: Yes. [13:20] eviljames: Yes, so how can I do that? [13:21] pwc101 (n=pwc101@139.166.248.124) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:21] run lilo, grub, whatever boot loader you are using. [13:21] eviljames: /dev/hda1 32098+ Dell Utility [13:21] /dev/hda239045982+ HPFS/NTFS [13:22] ok, so this is for windows? [13:22] Guest20740: are you using a raid set up? [13:22] Action: eviljames shouldn't even be on irc atm, too much to do.. [13:22] but I apparently can't resist :P [13:23] heh [13:23] Fatal: Either FIX-TABLE or IGNORE-TABLE must be specified [13:23] Lilo complains ^^ [13:23] then fix-table [13:24] or try with ignoring it: lilo -P ignore [13:24] errp, -p [13:24] nope, capital was right [13:24] aaahhh lilo -p ok was just reading man lilo. thanks eviljames [13:24] -p = password, -P = partition table [13:25] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: "brb" [13:25] `[007aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.196) left ##slackware. [13:26] lilo -P ignore [13:26] alisonken1home: ping [13:26] That ^^^ seems to have worked. [13:26] Will reboot and see. [13:27] Guest20740 (n=cal@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:27] who bets we never see him again? [13:27] hahahah [13:28] mrselfpwn: for the record lilo -P fix is destructive [13:28] seemed like it [13:29] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-214-45-141.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [13:29] seemed like it would be [13:29] i've never see that error before [13:30] well fire|bird i'm trying out awesome window manager [13:31] mrselfpwn: cool, how's that going? [13:32] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host155-168-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:32] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:32] pretty well. still deciding tiling wm i want to use [13:33] alphad64 (n=alphad@213.136.96.104) joined ##slackware. [13:33] imo, ion3 is nicer than awesome, but it has an annoyance of the right click menus don't stick. :P [13:34] that's the only one I haven't tryed yet out of the popular ones [13:35] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:36] i just want to interject to say i personally belive that anyone who prefers window-focus-on-mouseover should have their seed eradicated and their spawn massacred in front of their faces prior to painful execution [13:36] Zordrak: truth [13:37] Zordrak: you can turn that off [13:38] hello [13:38] iooo eviljames [13:38] =) [13:38] fire|bird: ion3 isn't in sbo [13:39] mrselfpwn: yeah.. but im subjected to it when pissing around with the desktops of the idiots who set it [13:39] fire|bird, hello [13:39] ahh, yes I hate it [13:39] hi fredoslack [13:39] Action: fredoslack prefer Fluxbox [13:39] =) [13:39] mrselfpwn: yeah, it needs to be built itself. [13:40] so far I like awesome and xmonad. [13:41] misspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:42] Zordrak, amen :) [13:42] Nick change: mrselfpwn -> mrpwnage [13:42] Necos Stephanopolis [13:42] misspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] somebody know the setting that allows the mouse to grab the background and rotate the cube? [13:43] lol wtf jeev? [13:43] adamk: thanks for the info - found a monitor for the dvi and twinview works fine [13:43] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:43] alisonken1home: ctrl+alt+mouse button 1 and rotate. [13:43] scunny_itch (n=sixx@212.183.134.128) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] giuppy (n=giuppy@host65-251-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:44] mrpwnage: not working on mine [13:44] default slack13 kde4 desktop [13:45] it's in compiz settings. enable cube desktop. [13:45] cube desktop works, but only if I hit , then use the mouse [13:45] cube desktop sounds fun [13:46] cube desktop sounds good.. but gets boring quickly.. desktop grid with a corner-shortcut is insanely productive [13:47] esp with a 1600 res screen and 9 desktops [13:47] get (n=winsucks@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Connection timed out [13:48] Zordrak: are you a stalker? [13:48] i just use ctrl-alt-left/right to cycle thru them [13:48] esp as full screen video continues to work in grid-view [13:48] mrpwnage: O_o [13:49] Zordrak: i'm joking, though why do you have all of those monitors or did you mean workspaces? [13:50] i said 9 desktops [13:50] thats what theyre called [13:50] not 9 moniters [13:50] just 2 [13:50] ah [13:50] but one is just a laptop in a dock on tty2 sshd to a box running irssi under screen [13:50] *monitors [13:50] mupi (n=mupi@84.20.246.189) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:52] yht (n=yht@125.166.103.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:53] Necos, you've heard the eminem We Made You song eh [13:53] mrpwnage: know where that setting is kept? [13:54] if you can see your compiz icon just right click it. [13:54] then click on the cube [13:54] nope jeev [13:55] under settings and look at what bindings it's using. [13:55] oh my god it's unbelievably funny, it's a fe wmonths old but watch it [13:55] eminem - we made you. the music video [13:55] it's the funniest thing on earth [13:55] it won't let me add the mouse click to it. as soon as I add the mouse click, it unselects [13:56] i have installed [13:56] Linux on the PC of my further [13:56] he is very happy [13:56] (ubuntu) [13:57] what's the compiz icon? I can go to system settings -> desktop ->all effects -> desktop cube and that's it [13:57] Action: Zordrak remembers why he red-tagged fredoslack [13:57] cal (n=cal@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Zordrak, i don't understand sorry :( [13:57] Nick change: cal -> Guest33676 [13:57] alisonken1home: let me look. my bro runs compiz [13:57] fredoslack: you werent supposed to [13:57] on fresh new 13.0 install, I seem to have audio problem. "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" [13:58] jeev lol [13:58] compiz is not the same as kde4 effects I believe [13:58] Zordrak, i have installed ubuntu on his computer [13:59] Phamjod2228 (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Guest33676: you have to be root - 'alsamixer' to set the levels - then 'alsactl store' to save [13:59] in a terminal or console [13:59] Guest33676, have you tried: alsaconf ? [13:59] xmms complains: Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly, You have the correct ouptut plugin selected, no other program is blocking the soundcard. [13:59] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host155-168-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:59] fredoslack: Yes, I ran alsaconf [14:00] Guest33676, watch the repository current [14:00] alisonken1home: applications/system/compiz fusion icon [14:00] on xmms [14:00] mrpwnage - this is stock kde4 desktop - not compiz [14:00] i had problems too, whith xmms [14:00] fredoslack: I need to edit /etc/group [14:00] sorry.... [14:00] Guest33676: look in the settings on xmms and and make sure alsa is enabled and not oss [14:00] Guest33676, yes, audio [14:00] you must add your nick [14:00] alisonken1home: i was under the impression it was compiz. [14:01] nope [14:01] alisonken1home: i don't know then [14:01] kde4 has a lot of the compiz effects, but kde wm not compiz wm [14:01] Guest33676, you are on KDE ? [14:01] KDE 4.2.4 [14:01] my slack13 (kde3) does not recognize external drives, on 'Storage Media" in both Konqueror and Dolphin it just show Floppy and Hard Disk(root partition). i'm already in plugdev group. how to fix this? [14:02] sup gangsters [14:02] fredoslack: Yes, kde [14:02] When did the special school kick out? [14:02] Phamjod2228, i don't know :( [14:02] Guest33676, i prefer Gnome hi hi [14:02] Guest33676: did you check that xmms is indeed using alsa and not oss? [14:02] Im guessing about half an hour ago.. [14:02] fredoslack: I might install gnome yet... thanks for recommendation. [14:02] brb [14:02] Guest33676 (n=cal@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:03] Phamjod2228: you can see them all as root I take it? [14:03] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [14:05] these are the groups i'm in Phamjod2228 ; users daemon wheel floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power netdev vboxusers usb [14:05] ok - guess I'm stuck with ctl-alt-leftarrow and right-edge desktop effect [14:05] Phamjod2228: dolphin in KDE3? You did not remove KDE4 packages? Pat states in his KDE3-for-Slackware-13.0 README that the combination of KDE3 and KDE4 desktops does not work well [14:05] anyway - nite all. time for sleep [14:06] alisonken1home: g'night [14:06] good night alisonken1home [14:06] Nick change: misspwnage -> mrspwnage [14:06] mrpwnage: even root can't see in Konqueror or Dolphin. i have to mount by command. [14:06] haha, hey mrspwnage [14:07] fire|bird, hello kitty cake want some? [14:08] alienBOB: i use Dolphin for 12.2 on slackbuilds. i even did not install KDE4, just XFCE. Now i replace XFCE with KDE3 [14:08] alphad64 (n=alphad@213.136.96.104) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:08] mm, hello kitty cake [14:08] plee_ (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [14:08] mrspwnage: I'll pass, but thanks for offering. :) [14:08] got a text from a buddy and she was like go on your porch and it was just sitting there [14:08] mrpwnage seems to want some though. :P [14:09] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:09] cal (n=cal@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Nick change: mrpwnage -> mrselfpwn [14:09] ah, what can you do? [14:10] Nick change: cal -> Guest89964 [14:10] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] alphad64 (n=alphad64@213.136.96.104) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Nick change: mrselfpwn -> mrpwnage [14:11] wb mrspwnage [14:11] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.235.148) joined ##slackware. [14:11] KDE4.2 is pretty nice, but missing a couple features I liked with KDE3.5 [14:11] dchmelik: hellloo [14:11] KDE 3.5 [14:11] hi hi [14:11] grazie [14:11] it was a good time :) [14:12] One is configuring clock syncronizing with ntp. In KDE3.5 and 3.4 you could just right click on the clock and tell it to use a timeserver. Not sure what to do with KDE4.2 [14:12] I can't bring myself to use anything bigger than xfce [14:12] i need less ff extensions.. flash doesnt load in some places and the only explanation is an addon update killed it [14:12] And hot keys. I like to use F12 for konsole but not sure how to set that up with KDE4.2. Any clues? [14:14] Zordrak: there is one flash app for me that doesn't work with firefox with flash 10 on any distro. i have to use flash 9. the strange thing is the app works with seamonkey and flash 10 and seamonkey is made by mozilla as well. [14:14] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fmoefnaebuwwsvty) left irc: [14:15] no.. im blaming this one on moonlight [14:18] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-59-207.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [14:18] balls it wasnt moonlight [14:18] god damn escapisth website wont load in konqueror.. but in ff it loads but flash wont work [14:18] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] Nick change: signal11_ -> signal11 [14:19] Zordrak: i have been using http://www.sephiroth.it/weblog/archives/2006/10/flash_switcher_for_firefox.php [14:23] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:23] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:24] do all makefiles accept the arguments for mandir, libdir, infodir and such? [14:24] Phamjod2228 (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) left irc: "leaving" [14:25] Zordrak: what is the executable for dolphin in kde? [14:26] Zordrak: nvm [14:26] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:26] tooly (n=tooly@85.178.174.112) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Nick change: plee_ -> plee [14:27] mrspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:27] archie, no [14:27] misspwnage (n=misspwna@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] is it determined by who made the package or whether or not it needs those directories? [14:29] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65209c4.cns.vt.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [14:29] makefiles are designed by the application's author [14:29] it has to do with autoconf [14:30] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@nc65214ba.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:30] autoconf is a configure script generator. maybe you mean automake [14:30] which someoeopel use and others not [14:30] makefiles are at the discretion of whoever builds them, although some (like automake) try to make it easier, a standard makefile requires whoever creates the makefile to have those options in there [14:30] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: [14:31] Nick change: misspwnage -> nix_chix0r [14:31] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@adsl-32-192-238.bgk.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Trying to install VirtualBox and I get an installation error on the kernel module: Makefile:158: *** Error: /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.29.6-smp) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.29.6). Stop. [14:32] Cryp71c: your source linux ver doesnt match the kernel you're running [14:32] rebuild? [14:32] However ls -la of /usr/src/linux reports: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2009-09-20 10:55 /usr/src/linux -> linux-2.6.29.6 [14:33] nooo zcat /proc/config.gz into /usr/src/linux/.config and make oldconfig [14:33] what does uname -r show? [14:33] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] 2.6.29.6 [14:33] there you go [14:33] pim_ (n=lajf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:33] ... [14:34] Cryp71c: you are not running the kernel your source is configured for [14:34] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:34] zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config; cd /usr/src/linux; make oldconfig [14:34] Zordrak, I havn't built or modified anything with the kernel / source/ symbolic links since the fresh slack13 install 3 weeks ago. [14:34] its because the src is configured for smp. [14:35] Cryptic virtbox is trying to use the -smp kernel, tell it to use the non smp suffixed one [14:35] theres 3 different kernels you an use, but only 1 src package, am i right? [14:35] archiebenedict: kinda [14:36] three configed kernels and only 1 config in the src? [14:36] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-91.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.124.229.10) left irc: "just to eat" [14:37] so...slack13 installed the -smp version of the kernel but when I told it to include the source as one of the packages, only gave me the non-smp source? [14:37] =\ [14:37] no [14:37] the source is configured for smp [14:37] you are not running smp [14:37] what kernel are you booting? [14:37] you'll find all the config files for each kernel in the slackware's source files but the kernels src package is configured secificlly for smp which is probably the most common. [14:37] mancha: ok so it's the configure script that accepts those arguments? [14:38] doesnt matter anyway.. :: [14:38] zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config; cd /usr/src/linux; make oldconfig [14:38] thats it [14:38] heh [14:38] do that [14:38] Zordrak, where can I find that again? I know its linuz somewhere.. [14:38] Zordrak, I just did that, re-ran the installer which produced the aforementioned error. [14:38] And it just produced the same error again. [14:38] omfg LOL [14:38] :/ [14:38] http://xkcd.com/636/ [14:38] achie, often yes, again this is up to the dev [14:39] Cryp71c: what kernel are you booting [14:39] convention has it that configure --help should give your possible params you can pass [14:39] huge obviously, if he was running something else he would probably know [14:39] i am sure you can tell virtbox what kernel to build against [14:40] Zordrak, uname -r reports '2.6.29.6' [14:40] >.< [14:40] mancha: ok, so this is where i would change the slackbuilds or make my own so that it would install say the info pages to /usr/share/info instead of /usr/info? [14:40] Cryp71c: then you run a non-SMP kernel [14:40] archie yes, that is a good placeto guess this can happen [14:41] alienBlurb, I understand that, and yet the installation of VirtualBox reports: Makefile:158: *** Error: /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.29.6-smp) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.29.6). Stop. [14:41] Cryp71c: what kernel image have you told lilo, the linux loader, that you would like it to boot.... at boot time [14:41] That is correct [14:41] The kernel-sources package has been configured for SMP Cryp71c [14:41] woah, how does lilo come into this? :) [14:41] mancha: cos somehow hes booting non-SMP [14:42] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [14:42] and therefor is not using the default huge or generic kernels [14:42] we know this already [14:42] Zordrak, vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 [14:42] Do not let yourself be fooled by the name of the toplevel directory "/usr/src/linux-2.6.29" ... it is still configured for SMP [14:42] Cryp71c: did you *choose* to boot non-SMP for a reason? [14:42] all he needs to have is virtbox go to the right kern sources. does the non-smp slack13 kernel not come with a source package you can install? [14:42] Zordrak: there is nothing wrong with choosing a non-SMP kernel [14:43] mancha: know your sources [14:43] alienBOB: indeed not... but theres a difference between choosing it and screwing up somewhere and ending up on it without realising it [14:43] Zordrak, the installation - by default - (by choice I made, apparently) installed and configured slack13 on a the non-smp kernel. [14:43] Please all check http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/extra/linux-2.6.29.6-nosmp-sdk/ [14:43] Zordrak: I do not see any screwing up here [14:43] i compile my own kernels so i have no reason (or desire) to get to know slack's default kern source strategy :) [14:44] Zordrak, I have not changed the lilo.conf boot image, I have not changed where /boot/vmlinuz points to, havn't changed /boot/config, nor have I changed /usr/src/linux [14:44] mancha: then stay out of the discussion when it concerns Slackware source packages [14:44] alright... so "the slackware way" is to change the default directories on packages? /usr/share/info becomes /usr/info? [14:44] but if it provides the kernel i would assume it provides the source somehow [14:44] archiebenedict: no [14:44] Nick change: keres_ -> keres [14:44] archiebenedict: and what did _you_ smoke? [14:45] archiebenedict: theyre configured with PREFIX=/usr - everthing else is unmodified from upstream [14:45] (generally) [14:45] oh ok [14:45] mancha: the instructions about using Slackware kernel-source with non-SMP kernels are in Slackware documentation [14:45] archie the slackware way is to things the way you want, if anyone tells you otherwise then they're a zombie [14:45] Zordrak, at this point, I'm trying to undo damage that I didn't do with regard to the kernel version / source / config. [14:45] unless they have some really funky directories [14:45] alien, don't tell me, help the person who is asking about this [14:45] Cryp71c: its very simple [14:45] ah, ok... sweet [14:45] Cryp71c: somewhere along the line you chose the non-SMP kernel [14:45] so you neoed the non-SMP sdk [14:46] Cryp71c: which alienBOB pointed you to [14:46] Cryptic, bottom line, you need a non-smp kernel source package so that /usr/src/linux points to it, then virtbox will build against your running non-smp kernel [14:46] or you need to go back to the SMP kernel which is the default [14:46] Exactly [14:46] I'd prefer a SMP kernel too - unless your system is unstable when running it [14:46] I can change the kernel image, that's a fine - and simple - solution. But let me make myself clear, since apparently my aforementioned statement didn't do it. [14:47] it don't hurt any, so... [14:48] I'm not a linux genius, but I'm not 1-armed and retarted. In short I havn't changed how/which kernel SDK is loaded at boot. The immediately aforementioned statement includes /etc/lilo.conf, /boot/vmlinuz, and /boot/config [14:48] Nor have I gone the undoubtedly complicated route of swapping the names of my kernel SDKs. [14:49] Well, not complicated, but certainly obnoxious. [14:49] ? [14:49] Not you necos. [14:50] Directed @ Zordrak, who has apparently become complacent with helping the average idiot, apparently. [14:50] Cryp71c: the bit youve missed is that somewhere along the line.. and i dont know where.. you chose to boot the non-default non-smp kernel [14:50] Cryp71c: thats it [14:50] but i thought we covered that already... [14:50] Please elaborate how I can change which kernel is booted, without modifying any of the aforementioned files / sym links? [14:51] I'm curious. [14:51] rhys (n=rhysrhav@66.102.98.194.ip.anet.com) joined ##slackware. [14:51] upgradepkg --reinstall kernel-blah? [14:51] it depends how you changed it in the first place... i cant recall OTOMH if theres any ncurses option to do it in the installer [14:52] but so long as /boot/vmlinuz points at the smp kernel.. and lilo is set to boot /boot/vmlinuz all you need to do is run lilo [14:52] if any of that is not satisfied, satisfy it first [14:52] The ONLY possible route that the kernel boot would've changed without my knowledge is if - by chance - it was changed through the installpkg / upgradepkg without notification. [14:53] ummm, not reall... [14:53] Action: Zordrak is done. Hands the reins to alienBOB [14:53] *really... [14:53] because you can check that in /var/log/ [14:53] in /var/log/removed_packages [14:54] kitty_ (n=kitty@66.30.160.107) joined ##slackware. [14:54] nice kitty ^^ [14:55] Meow [14:55] do you have any idea how hard it is to resist the temptation to meow... ;-; [14:55] I didn't resist. [14:55] i meant for me ;-; [14:55] Heh, go ahead. [14:56] Action: Necos likes cats [14:56] Necos, when I said 'without notification' I was referring to output to the terminal from which upgradepkg / installpkg was run. I know its always logged in /var/log [14:56] Crypic, after a quick read, of the docs, the answer is that slack does not provide a source tree for non-smp kernels [14:56] If you did not install the SMP kernel in the first place, Slackware will use the non-SMP kernel of course [14:56] i'm surprised but thats beside the point. the solution is a quick build yourself [14:57] if you knew that, you could have verified the source of your problem by checking /var/log [14:57] they provide a config, so make oldconfig will work... [14:57] But with a full install (no individual package selection) you will _always_ be running the SMP kernel by default [14:58] kitty_, for network or USB installs you may wanna look at: ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/slackware/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [14:58] Action: Necos meows at kitty_ [14:58] cp'ing over teh right config, then make oldconfig; make bzImage will probably be enough (go do laundry or walk your dog in the meantime) [14:59] mancha: the non-smp sdk is provided [14:59] Zord, link? [14:59] 19:43:26 < alienBOB> Please all check http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/extra/linux-2.6.29.6-nosmp-sdk/ [14:59] Cryp71c, so where is your problem again? are you just trying to prove that you're not a retard? i don't think any of us care at this point, as now you're just arguing semantics [15:00] blackula (i=1000@97.81.73.186) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Necos just got a nick-colour upgrade :D [15:00] is that all he needs, the headers? [15:01] mancha: its all you ever need [15:01] Zordrak, why? LOL [15:01] the kernel is already running [15:02] because i hate politics and lik straight-to-the-point common sense [15:03] Cryp71c: what is the output of "ls -la /var/log/packages/kernel*" [15:06] Failed|Artist (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] ... [15:12] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:13] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:14] alienBOB, working on a code port, sorry. http://paste2.org/p/448786 [15:15] Umm, Slackware 13.0? Is that out? [15:16] good evening [15:16] uhh yeah [15:16] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [15:16] uva (i=bno@118-168-236-24.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] I have a 12.* disc. [15:18] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. 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[15:19] Action: Zordrak slaps anthony [15:19] eelriver (n=eelriver@c-24-130-112-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Nick change: pragma_ -> Guest65668 [15:20] What the HELL was that? [15:20] god [15:21] I can't look away for one second without total anarchy. [15:21] kitty_: http://www.google.com/search?q=netsplit [15:22] Umm, OK that's very in-depth. [15:22] mariocki (n=pikea@cpc4-bagu10-0-0-cust675.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] everyones connected to one of a number of servers that are networked together [15:23] Anyway, diverting from my main issue of the disc not being read, what can I use as a package handler on Slackware? [15:23] if the server youre on loses connection with the rest of them.. boom youre disconnected from the network [15:23] kitty_: installpkg to install, removepkg to remove etc... [15:24] OK, let me rephrase. I meant a repository manager. [15:24] kitty_: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/09/28/slackware-package-management-guide/ [15:24] kitty_: slackpkg [15:24] To read from online repositories of source packages. [15:24] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:24] kitty_: slackpkg [15:24] sbopkg [15:24] see the link [15:25] sbopkg is amazing [15:25] praise the lord! \o/ [15:26] Is this new to 13.0? [15:27] kitty_: its not part of slackware its a community extra [15:27] http://slackbuilds.org [15:27] http://sbopkg.org [15:27] as per the first link [15:28] alphad64 (n=alphad64@213.136.96.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] I forgot about build scripts. [15:29] Been using SuSE. [15:29] welcome back [15:29] Yeah, builds aren't something to put on your welcome mat. Heh [15:29] yes. they are. [15:30] you do nothing put hit "go" [15:30] and you get a package built from source for your machine [15:30] s/put/but/ [15:30] Failed|Artist (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:30] That's not how I remember it. I mean, from reading about it. [15:30] its moved on massively in the last year or so [15:30] alphad64 (n=quassel@213.136.96.104) joined ##slackware. [15:31] sbopkg ftw. [15:31] ESPECIALLY thanks to Chbess Griffin and sbopkg [15:31] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] OK, well I'll burn a 13.0 disc I guess. [15:31] *Chess [15:31] kitty_: why not net boot [15:31] or usb boot [15:31] just a thought [15:31] I don't have a Flash drive empty. [15:31] lol because that leaves your computer out of commision for as long as it takes to download [15:32] but if you have spare discs.. go nuts [15:32] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:32] sbopkg is nice, except for its ncurses interface and the amount of disc space it uses up. [15:32] archiebenedict: no.. because you cache the source an a local machine [15:32] and serve it via nfs [15:32] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] yesyes: are you on crack?! [15:32] hey is there a way to hide all those messages at bootup unless there's an error [15:32] tomatoes tomahtos. might as well burn it if you have it [15:33] compgenius999: i think its called bootsplash [15:33] imo anyway [15:33] http://hackaday.com/2009/10/01/microsoft-unveils-open-source-multi-core-os/ [15:33] the enemy is getting smarter! [15:33] Zordrak: yes, and i still don't like the amount of disc space it uses up and its ncurses interface. [15:33] yesyes: the interface is exactly the same as the slackware installer [15:33] yesyes: it has options to clean up the space it has used [15:33] xsamurai1 (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] yesyes, atleast it works anyways [15:33] or you can just do it yourself [15:34] yesyes: This Is Slackware [15:34] uva_ (i=bno@118-168-236-24.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:34] yes, i'm glad it's there, don't get me wrong. i just wish its interface wasn't so convoluted. slackpkg's interface is great, for instance. [15:35] Failed|Artist (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:35] omg, it's over. ms tossed out an open source OS. bye, we dont need linux anymore :P [15:35] i tend to use sbo from the command line, which is much nicer, but iirc some options are only available in the ncurses interface. [15:35] Zordrak, all the guides i see on google are for slackware 12, 11, or 10, and i'm using 13 [15:36] hmmm. Is it starting to be a trend that USB flash drives no longer come with a partition table, just a filesystem on the raw device? [15:36] archiebenedict: eh? [15:36] archiebenedict, an open source OS that fails [15:36] archiebenedict they had one fora while [15:36] methinks barrelfish cannot be trusted [15:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:36] Singularity blows [15:36] i agrea [15:36] the name alone screams WE WANT TO OWN YOU [15:36] it cant be trusted. its the same old EEE tactics. this time its a direct attack on the gnu philosophy [15:36] Linux will always outdo Singularity/Midori [15:37] a C# OS will always be slower than a C+ASM one [15:37] eh? someone actually wrote an OS kernel in C#? [15:37] midori is a web browser i hope they sue for trade name infringment [15:37] its bsd based so theyre throwing out a decent base, letting a community of windows hackers develop it. stop hosting the source, and make a proprietary system out of it [15:37] Urchlay, that is what Singularity and codename Midori is [15:37] compgenius999: guides for what? [15:37] yuck [15:37] for bootsplash [15:37] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:37] Urchlay, Singularity uses a C# kernel with a VM and ASM-based HAL below it [15:38] is it C# that gets compiled to machine code, or byte code + a VM? [15:38] oh, yuck [15:38] Urchlay, yes.. it is [15:38] C# and Java both do it that way [15:38] compgenius999: mainly cos no-one uses it. Anyone who chooses slackware would want to knom mahts happening during boot [15:38] 2 things thatll never be on my pcs ever ^ [15:38] and "Windows 8" is likely to be based off of codename Midori [15:38] :P [15:38] compgenius999: if you cant find any instructions for 13.. follow 12.2 instructions [15:38] ought to work the same [15:39] NthDegree: was under the impression C# could be compiled to machine code (and Java can be, with gcj, unless there's something else going on there that I don't understand) [15:39] more os competition is good. i'm glad ms are doing this. if some of their methods put linux to shame, then it'll be a good kick up the arse for linux. [15:39] OK, the main problem I had before (12.2) is that I couldn't install a game (Docking Station) due to a dependency issue of a library of some sort. [15:39] Urchlay, Mono can compile C# code into an EXE that runs under Mono... and .NET executables run within the .NET Framework [15:39] kitty_: if its available on SlackBuilds.org, its dependencies are too [15:40] Urchlay, when I compile a C# app in Mono it runs on .NET and vice-versa.. both are PE binaries.. so yes there is something inbetween as a VM [15:40] yeah [15:40] its under a 3-clause BSD license [15:40] you know what they're going to do [15:40] I got it from the official site. [15:40] the same thing apple did [15:40] NthDegree: extremely silly way to write an OS kernel, IMO [15:40] the unix core of MacOSX was open source, microsoft is just going to copy that tactic [15:40] icarus, I agree.. they'll harvest from the community and run off like Apple did [15:41] kitty_: so does SBo [15:41] Urchlay, not when most new MS apps are going to be C# based [15:41] I like playing FPS games flip handed [15:41] kitty_: do some reading before asking more [15:41] develop it in open source, then fuck everyone and act like they've been in the mountains forging it with genius, and its the next "REVOLUTION OF OS" [15:41] ugh, the site to download the kernel patch for bootsplash is dead... [15:42] You all gave me too many sites to read. I don't know what I'm looking for any more. Which thing should I be reading about? [15:42] http://slackbuilds.org [15:42] Urchlay, Windows is written with isolation in mind these days.. NT was the first step. MS do not trust the developers to get things right, they love the idea of an extensible microkernel :P [15:42] OK [15:42] Urchlay, this is the MS way of saying "look, we're secure" [15:43] kitty_: supplementary to that: http://sbopkg.org [15:43] each person can only use diff -C50 [15:43] that's it [15:43] security through solidarity [15:44] i just downloaded it. it's 4MB. this is a long term low risk high payoff strategy [15:44] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:45] xsamurai1 (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [15:45] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:47] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. 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Thanks [15:49] Action: compgenius999 yells at his computer saying 'USE THE SWAP SPACE' and gets no reply [15:49] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-91.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:50] compgenius999: swapon /dev/ [15:50] compgenius999: is it in /etc/fstab ? [15:50] compgenius999: (man) swapon [15:50] NyteOwl: works for me [15:50] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-240.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] Camarade_Tux: bwt I'm deco :P [15:50] btw* [15:50] no shit n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [15:50] lol [15:50] Failed|Artist: I know, I checked the backlogs ;) [15:51] Camarade_Tux: good :P [15:51] Failed|Artist: that's why I said I enjoyed ;) [15:51] Camarade_Tux: oh yes :P [15:51] fire|bird: \o/ [15:51] hey fire|bird [15:51] hey Reticenti [15:51] esoteric (n=esoteric@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Action: Camarade_Tux put a claw into fire|bird's other eye [15:51] fire|bird: so it's been a while since I've asked a question in here :P [15:51] =) [15:52] how would i check what partition number my swap partition is, i know my partitions are different in slackware so i can't randomly pick the one i think it is :( [15:52] Camarade_Tux: still listening to pantera ? [15:52] Failed|Artist: nope, it finished a few hours ago [15:52] Camarade_Tux: k [15:52] you should probably set your fstab up for uuid, then [15:52] Reticenti: no doubt. :P [15:52] hey thrice` [15:52] hello :) [15:53] then I did Six Feet Under (Graveyard Classics II), then Slipknot (Subliminal Verses iirc), and now Tool :) [15:53] compgenius999: /sbin/blkid [15:53] meh, doesnt matter, just did fdisk and p, its the same [15:53] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [15:53] compgenius999: ewwww slipknot [15:53] I listened to Ten Thousand Days and AEnima is about to finish :) [15:53] Failed|Artist: ewwww tab-fail :) [15:53] fire|bird: I might have some tourble later today though, I'm downloading nexuiz, so I don't know how that will go :P [15:53] Failed|Artist: what's wrong with Slipknot? [15:53] yep, worked, now the swap is used [15:53] Camarade_Tux: damn it lol it's the nick [15:54] fire|bird: what isn't , bunch of clowns [15:54] Camarade_Tux: ok now you have bad taste in music :P [15:54] Action: fire|bird drops a tank on Failed|Artist [15:54] music can still be enjoyable ;) [15:54] slipknot has good rhythms [15:54] slipknot is a joke [15:54] so are you [15:54] fire|bird: :) [15:54] pim_ (n=lajf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: [15:54] ugh... where do you set the font for menus in OO.o? [15:54] Action: Failed|Artist hugs fire|bird [15:54] ewww [15:55] heya Necos [15:55] the failed artist deciding that another group of artists is fail? [15:55] Action: Failed|Artist listens to good metal [15:55] antiwire: haha [15:55] I'm pretty happy, I can put music all-month long just by playing everything in alphabetical order and not get bad things :) [15:55] antiwire: takes one to know one [15:55] Action: Reticenti is listening to drum and bass [15:55] (all month long means 24 hours a day ;) ) [15:55] heya fire|bird [15:56] ah, I see, "Failed|Artist" [15:56] the ending 't' is not showed here :P [15:56] the fonts are so godawful ugly in openoffice [15:56] s/showed/shown/ [15:56] lol [15:56] phzin` (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Camarade_Tux: .... [15:56] Necos: solution1: check the menus, solution2: use grep on ~/.openoffice* [15:57] Failed|Artist: I thought you had artistis :) [15:57] phzin` (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] Necos: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide/Customizing [15:57] bah, solution2 is much better -_- [15:58] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [15:58] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: Client Quit [15:58] compgenius999: [15:58] ne me dérange pas [15:58] Camarade_Tux: * [15:58] damn it [15:58] lol [15:58] haha [15:58] well that goes to Camarade_Tux [15:59] Just drop the artist part, and /nick I_Am_Fail [15:59] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:59] cbrpnk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Failed|Artist: hmmmmm [15:59] Camarade_Tux: that's good french ? [15:59] been a year since i used any real french [15:59] How could you told? [15:59] yeah, grammar is perfect, orthograph too [16:00] Camarade_Tux: :D [16:00] Why can't I just download a tarball and ./configure, make, make install like in any other distribution I've used? [16:00] now, I'm not sure that's what you meant ;) [16:00] Camarade_Tux: i tried to say, don't mess with me [16:00] kitty_: you can but ti's really really dirty [16:00] kitty_: I've been there and I won't ever do that again :) [16:00] which is unfortunate [16:00] Like, your pc needs a shower after, dirty. :P [16:00] (well, there are exceptions but these are ... exceptions ;) ) [16:00] Hrm, OK [16:01] slackbuilds are just way better :) [16:01] There needs to be a system wide Ctrl-Z. :) [16:01] Action: Failed|Artist gaved up on french long time ago [16:01] and there is src2pkg (or checkinstall) if there is not slackbuild [16:01] looks like you gave up on English too [16:01] damn [16:01] velusip: functionnal programming comes to the rescue :) [16:01] antiwire: no that's Quiznos [16:01] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] kitty_: you absolutely can [16:02] Failed|Artist: Well, you're following right behind him. :P [16:02] s/nn/n/ [16:02] fire|bird: yup :( [16:02] velusip: http://nixos.org/nixos/ [16:02] and if you `make install DESTDIR/tmp/foo; cd /tmp/foo; makepkg` you can make your own package from the sorce [16:02] I can't believe how expensive the iPhone is. [16:03] which will allow upgrades/removals SO much easier later on [16:03] antiwire: omg [16:03] really ? [16:03] really what? [16:03] phzin (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:03] what's the /boot/slack.bmp file for? [16:03] antiwire: in France, on average, people are pyaing 82 euros a month [16:03] Action: fire|bird waits for Apple to make an iCostAlot [16:03] (those who own an iphone) [16:03] kitty_: thats all a slackbuild script is... an automated way of doing precisely that [16:03] kitty_: you should look at a few scripts as examplesn [16:04] Camarade_Tux: Looks like the full setup plan is 99USD/mo here and the hardware itself is also insanely priced [16:04] Even used units on CL are out of control [16:04] alphad64 (n=quassel@213.136.96.104) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:04] antiwire: yaxm.org/!82+euros+in+dollars <- 120 dollars [16:04] OK, well I'll do that after installation. Right now, Slackware is only on my ancient desktop which I don't feel like starting up because it's so slow. [16:05] It doesn't even turn off when you shut it down. You have to wait for it then push the button. It's REALLY old. [16:05] kitty_: can i pet you ? [16:05] Umm, if you like. [16:05] Yes [16:05] kitty_: for perspective: [16:05] Action: Failed|Artist pets kitty_ [16:05] :) [16:05] ananke: earlier this week, I've had a pen leak ink in my pocket, partly on my telephone, I'm glad it didn't costs much ;) [16:05] antiwire: if you think it is expensive in the US, you should see the prices here in Norway [16:06] You have to use the brush and then pull my furball from it. [16:06] (or had a big screen) [16:06] Action: Failed|Artist gives kitty_ some tuna [16:06] kitty_: im a Systems Admin. I look after a medium sized company network alone. ALL of the core network machines run slackware. Where possible EVERYTHING on them is installed from Slackware via slackpkg or SlackBuilds.org via sbopkg [16:06] it makes my life easy [16:07] kitty_: and if something i need isnt there.. i make a script and submit it to SBo.. and then i can use sbopkg to install it on any other machine i need it on [16:07] eg nagios-plugins [16:07] Is there any way to get automatic update notifications for installed packages? [16:07] you could cron sbopkgs update check [16:07] cron job checking the version numbers [16:07] and slackpkgs [16:08] and slackware security patches has a mailing list and rss feed [16:08] Kerd (n=no@unaffiliated/kerd) joined ##slackware. [16:08] damn, the font openoffice uses isn't listed anywhere (that i can readily see) [16:08] I need cookies. I haven't done anything Linux-savvy in ages. [16:09] alphad64 (n=alphad64@213.136.96.104) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Action: Camarade_Tux wants cookies ! [16:09] \o/ [16:09] how do I install lilo to the slackware partition so i can chainload it with grub? [16:09] kitty_: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/ast/ and then http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/aliens-slackbuild-toolkit/ [16:09] Action: Failed|Artist gives Camarade_Tux some cookies [16:09] Camarade_Tux: want milk ? [16:09] 500-700$ for an iPhone when I could buy a whole new laptop for that much [16:09] Failed|Artist: yes \o/ [16:09] wtf is wrong here [16:09] Action: Failed|Artist hands Camarade_Tux a glass of milk [16:10] compgenius999: if you already have grub, you might just use it... [16:10] Failed|Artist: \o/ [16:10] Camarade_Tux: \o/ [16:10] AEnima over, time to go, laterz :) [16:10] Camarade_Tux: noooo :( [16:10] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [16:10] antiwire: I'd buy two overpowered desktop computers (headless) [16:10] meh, ok, but my boot partition is on the same partition as my ubuntu install [16:11] Failed|Artist: but my soul won't leave the channel :) [16:11] Camarade_Tux: \o/ [16:11] if you want to buy the iPhone 3GS in Norway with 32GB of memory, you'd have to pay a whopping 9995 NOK, which is equivalent to around 1700 USD [16:11] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:11] v3gard: I'm sure that's because of Nokia lobbying -_- [16:11] crap [16:12] well, they lobby on the whole region I'm sure -_- [16:12] I just can't bring myself to pay that much for phone. for 1700USD I could buy a moderately badass 1U server [16:12] Best place for that kind of business [16:12] alphad64 (n=alphad64@213.136.96.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] *poof* [16:12] my company paid for my E90 [16:12] well.. basically everything is expensive in Norway [16:12] retail price was 600 UKP [16:13] but the worst thing, is that people actually pay $1720 for an iphone [16:14] fire|bird: [16:14] what? [16:14] fire|bird: hi :) [16:14] ola [16:14] fire|bird: salut :) [16:15] very impressed by AST [16:15] http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/09/18/0011218/Spyware-Prank-Exposes-Hospital-Medical-Records?from=rss [16:16] init[1]: very old news [16:16] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-240.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:16] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.172) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:16] Zordrak: ooh,i opened my reader just now after a busy week :D [16:16] maybe a coupleweeks [16:18] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:18] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [16:19] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:19] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left ##slackware ("What does this button do again ... ?"). [16:19] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-14-135.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] do you think there is an efficient way to partition a hdd? should / be the first partition? [16:19] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:20] *sigh* [16:20] Keiffer: It's not really that big of a deal with modern disks [16:20] Keiffer: all my snlack boxes: 1 /boot 256MB, 2 / The Rest, 3 swap 4096MB [16:21] I try to keep Windows or /boot at the front of the disk [16:21] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [16:22] i was wondering if i could rsync the linux kernel source,according to my .config,instead of downloading it,well even for patch too [16:22] so, i am planning to partition a 320 gb for maximum efficiency. i was thinking in this order 1. boot 2. /slackware 3/ubuntu 4.tmp 5.swap (5gb each) and rest is storage [16:22] Keiffer: you cant have [16:22] Keiffer: you cant have >4 primary partitions [16:23] so that wil require an extended partiton [16:23] Zordrak, so what is the option? [16:23] dont bother separating /tmp [16:23] keep one each [16:23] or use LVM [16:24] ptchaw [16:24] what's wrong with separating /tmp? Especially if he's dual-booting two Linux OSes? They can share it... [16:24] ditto swap [16:24] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [16:25] its not necessary [16:25] also home [16:25] has to be on a standalone [16:25] not home [16:25] don't hare home [16:25] share* [16:25] not necessary, but nothing wrong with doing so (saves a bit of disk space) [16:25] oh forget it. share home, tmp, swap [16:25] whatever do it [16:26] don't share /home, you'll have different versions of things like KDE in the 2 different OSes, ubuntu's KDE might do something to your ~/.kde that breaks Slackware's KDE (an example, could happen with any app) [16:26] well, an option would be only slack and VMs inside it. but i don't really know if they work well, never tested one [16:26] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.62.163) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:27] i cant take the levels of fail that hmave gently risen since 5pm [16:27] im off [16:27] ttfn [16:27] how do I untar to a different directory than the one the archive is in? [16:27] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.101.50) joined ##slackware. [16:27] -C [16:27] -C [dir] [16:28] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:28] tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option [16:28] ohhhh capital c [16:28] tar xf tarball -C targetdir [16:28] tar xvf yoursecrettarball.tar -C /path/to/secret/dir [16:28] Quiznos: how'd that 13.0 clean install go? [16:28] fine [16:29] its ok now, put it as c instead of C [16:29] lol [16:29] ... [16:30] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [16:30] compgenius999: or you could just do this, assuming the tarball is in your home directory... "mkdir /some/other/dir ; cd !$ ; tar xvfz ~/tarball.tar.gz" [16:31] so, if I need windows apps that don't work very well with wine, should i install windows or make a virtual machine? [16:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:31] on 4gb of ram and dualcore intel cpu [16:31] argh... [16:31] one thing I wish for with tar, unzip, unrar, etc.. have it detect if the archive doesn't contain a top-level directory, and automagically create one [16:31] oh wait, isn't there ##openoffice? [16:32] thebigh (n=herbert@adsl-99-16-4-120.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] or some such [16:32] Urchlay most can; zip cant [16:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428723.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:32] eh? tar can do that? what's the magic switch I'm missing? [16:32] -C [16:33] eh, not really, no [16:33] sure it can [16:33] well; you have to know what the tarball has in it [16:33] to update the kernel, are there any files from the old kernel source i'd have to copy over to compile properly? [16:33] tar xvf something.tar.gz -C nonexistentdir [16:33] .config [16:34] tar: nonexistentdir: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory [16:34] hmm [16:34] ok [16:34] anyway even if -C created directories, that's not what I want [16:34] do you think encrypting root is a good idea or just a paranoid acting? [16:34] paranoid [16:34] IMO [16:34] paranoid [16:34] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [16:34] heh spammers managed to break Facebook's CAPTCHA [16:34] its a good idea, unless you have no private files and your the only person that uses the computer [16:34] wow [16:35] OK, thanks people. I'm too tired for some reason to keep going. I'll probably be back another time if I can't figure out the network install. [16:35] what I want is, if the tarball contains a top-level dir, and all the files in the tarball are within that dir, it shouldn't auto-create a top-level dir [16:35] it's like someone having an encrypted install of linux using truecrypt... if you have information that sensitive that you're keeping it on your computer, you obviously have a flaw in your system [16:35] gn [16:35] night kitty_ [16:35] so if it was going to extract everything to foo/ already, it won't end up in foo/foo/ [16:35] tar just does what the tarball has in it [16:35] Well umm, it's only 16:35. [16:35] but i think there are tar opts to manage dir creation [16:35] Quiznos: yes, I know. I want a smarter tar [16:35] lol east coaster :) [16:36] Urchlay see Schilly's Star [16:36] Action: NyteOwl prefers LUKS to truecrypt [16:36] actually tar isn't really the offender here, most tarballs are well-behaved. It's zip and rar files that tend to splatter stuff all over your current directory [16:36] though I have used the latter under Windows [16:36] kitty_ (n=kitty@66.30.160.107) left irc: "Leaving" [16:36] anything really important is on an Ironkey [16:37] Urchlay yea; my vert (compressed file processor) handled topdir prob [16:37] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:37] i still have this problem. my home is encrypted but get decrypted and mounted via LUKS when i log in. the problem is, it won't do that via ssh [16:37] it won't even connect [16:37] Guest89964 (n=cal@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:37] Keiffer call the script or do the did in .bash_profile? [16:37] did/deed [16:38] again, making your system more complex via encryption only makes things worse :P [16:38] won't connect, as in, it acts like sshd isn't even running? are you, uhm, sure it's running? [16:38] Necos: so you consider *any* personal information on your system not worth protecting? [16:38] Quiznos, i don't understand [16:38] Keiffer well, if ~ is crypted, nm. i'm wrong [16:38] i think it's because maybe ~/.ssh is inaccesible? [16:38] chopp, anything i consider "valuable" is not readily accessible [16:38] Keiffer yea [16:39] it's not _ON_ the damn computer... it sits somewhere until i need it [16:39] there's no security without physical security... remember that [16:39] Keiffer: if ~/.ssh isn't accessible, it'll still *connect*... is that what it's doing, connecting, then not letting you log in? [16:39] get it yet, chopp? [16:39] Urchlay, yea. displaying the banner and then Sever refused our key [16:40] also tried to move authorized_keys somewhere on /. and did the modification in sshd?config [16:40] still nothing [16:40] OK, so your description of the problem was wrong... I don't have an answer for you, but at least you have a better question to ask now :) [16:41] AuthorizedKeyFile /etc/ssh/authorized_keys [16:41] Why it was wrong? [16:41] worried about the feds getting to your home folder Keiffer ? [16:41] Necos: you're intitled to your own opinion, but I do wonder where your valuable information *sits*? [16:41] his pr0n [16:41] no not that [16:41] his plans for dictatorship [16:41] daiosho_ (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-112-177-214.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:41] yea yea, sure sure (another exclusive macro by Quiznos) [16:41] not really. i just like to complicate my life. [16:41] ah, that's understandable then [16:42] pr0n they dont care about (well not really) but ruling? yea that's the ticket [16:42] a thought. I'm not real familiar with luks, but... how does the normal login thing work? is the filesystem being mounted when you log in, or is it somehow "mounted but encrypted" already? [16:42] there is a thing called the butterfly effect Keiffer . [16:42] chopp, the point being, you shouldn't be storing valuable information on things that are not phyiscally secured in the first place [16:42] mrpwnage thats a bs theory. [16:42] http://xkcd.com/538/ [16:43] That think with "if a butterly beats it's wings in Panama a typhoon will be born in China?" [16:43] this is so true it's depressing [16:43] simply responding to my statement proves it to an extent Quiznos [16:44] mrpwnage not at all; a butterfly's wing flap only affects within a few mm to cm; no further. [16:44] hahaha [16:44] Necos: depends what you're doing and how strongly you believe in it... is possible you could be tortured to death without ever giving away any information [16:44] it's the same thing in economics. anytime not spent making money is time you could have been making money [16:44] that little flap wont affect any meterological activity at all anywhere. [16:44] mm and cm? [16:44] mrpwnage damn you're confused. [16:44] millimeter, centimeter [16:44] Quiznos: no i'm not [16:44] thebigh (n=herbert@adsl-99-16-4-120.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [16:45] tooly (n=tooly@85.178.174.112) left irc: "Leaving." [16:45] your words betray your condition [16:45] Urchlay, my point is still the same... being all cool with your uber encryption isn't a means to an end, but rather one piece of an overall puzzle [16:45] and people overcomplicate shit just for the sake of looking cool [16:45] mrpwnage: eh, what about time spent enjoying the money you already made? economic theory might not cover that, but, eh, it's sort of the whole point of making money in the first place [16:45] Urchlay, the home is encrypted and umounted. when I log in, the same password for the account is used to decrypt the /home. and then mount it [16:45] no, it's to prove a larger point that one action effects many other later outcomes. [16:45] when, in essence, most of the time, the aforementioned xkcd comic will take place [16:46] Necos: right, agree with that, people tend to focus on one piece of the puzzle and forget the bigger picture even exists [16:46] mrpwnage that might be but not concerning anything a butterfly could do. [16:46] mrpwnage it could apply to people but not the butterfly. [16:46] and all the encryption in the world won't matter if someone can just steal your shit and cryptanalyze the fuck out of it [16:46] Keiffer: what's responsible for doing that? a custom /bin/login maybe? Perhaps you need to enable UseLogin in sshd_config? (just guessing) [16:46] usb-hd are a complete insecurity [16:46] i haven't thought to the extent of what a butterfly flapping it's wings actually do. that's too literal [16:47] mrpwnage then you admit you're incorrect. [16:47] and confused [16:47] no, it's just the name of the theory [16:47] just said you were. [16:47] it's unworty to even be mentioned. [16:47] but you can put a usb-hdd in a safe in a place offsite and that will protect your data [16:47] :P [16:47] Quiznos: huh? [16:47] you ever get tired of only thinking with the left side of your brain Quiznos ? [16:47] Urchlay to mrpwnage [16:47] Urchlay, that might help. will tray that and tell you if it worked [16:48] mrpwnage nop; both sides mix together when appropriate [16:48] Quiznos: right, I know who you're talking to, but aren't you being a little harsh? [16:48] is possible to disagree with someone without being insulting [16:48] Necos: until my wrench hits you upside the hairdo until you tell me where it is. Are you getting this yet? [16:48] Urchlay just expressing a definite error here; plus he wrote two conflicting statements on the same subject. [16:48] Urchlay harsh might be called ad hom, which I dont use. [16:48] i've just read a guide on upgrading my kernel on slackware, it says it will automatically run lilo, this won't kill my GRUB will it? [16:49] or plain roodness which i also dont do [16:49] compgenius999 yes [16:49] the theory of butterfly effect, as far as i remeber is related to this matematicia who worked at a computerized weather prediction program [16:49] Quiznos: now all this time arguing with me it seems my little wings have made something happen. [16:49] Quiznos: he's a person, not a compiler, people are allowed to be irrational and ambiguous [16:49] and he used many decimals for each one of the variables, temp, humidity etc [16:49] compgenius999: when you install the kernel, simply don't issue "make install"; copy the two items over by hand [16:49] chopp, but the same thing happens with encryption... in essence, neither is more secure than the other [16:49] ok, thanks [16:49] Urchlay allowed yes, it happens (it's a programming error :) but there are limits to the confusion, which should be avoided [16:49] someday, he used a lot less decimals out of commodity and realized that, over long term [16:50] typically, after you configure your kernel, you'll just do "make && make modules_install", then copy the built kernel image into /boot/ [16:50] mrpwnage but not the way you expressed. [16:50] it affected badly the weather model [16:50] Quiznos: how do you know? [16:50] compgenius999 3, kernel .config and sysmap [16:50] if you're saying "oh my uber encryption will beat you", they'll just beat you over the head til you tell them the key [16:50] Necos: or until they kill you [16:51] either way, you lose :) [16:51] depends [16:51] mrpwnage because a butterfly cannot; a humming bird cannot, a plane cannot cause a storm or shift wind. [16:51] how many of us have information worth dying for... really? [16:51] if we could shift wind, then there'd be NO hurricanes. [16:51] if you're one of those True Believer types, you might say you win if they kill you without getting whatever secrets you have... [16:51] Necos: I don't [16:51] EXACTLY [16:51] but such people do exist [16:52] cbrpnk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:52] yes, but for those people, this kind of information security will be even more complex and for good reason [16:52] I have my system encrypted simply to forstall any loss of information to the creep that breaks in adn steals the computer when I'm away. He may get the hardware but I'll be damned if he gets the data. Those witht he time and resources to break into it aren't its raison d'tre [16:52] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [16:52] I try to avoid people like that though, they tend to be wild-eyed fanatics [16:52] Quiznos: oh, lol. you are actually arguing with me about that? [16:52] for the "average" user, it's overkill [16:52] anyone using chromium ? [16:52] NyteOwl: ++ [16:52] NyteOwl maybe you should partition your data into small parts, that is, stuff that really needs to be crypted and not [16:52] NyteOwl, why not just physically secure your hardware? [16:52] mrpwnage :) it's something diff here :) [16:53] in addition to the encryption... might as well run the full gamut [16:53] Necos: you suggest I live in a vault? The msot important stuff is on an Ironeky anyway [16:53] Necos: I might use luks on a laptop that I carry around with me 24/7, except that it pretty much means you can't use convenient sleep/suspend functions (if you suspend it, when it resumes, your filesystem is still mounted) [16:53] daiosho (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-112-177-214.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] NyteOwl, ok, then you do get my point [16:54] :) [16:54] passwords in swap is mucho-bad [16:54] Quiznos: i didn't want to go into the theory of the life the universe and everything. just made a simple analogy (okay you win not exact) though within a moments thought the one i came up with. [16:55] mrpwnage ok but both were wrong in theory and application :) [16:55] heh [16:55] and we're close to the `theory of everything' but the theorist was wrong also. [16:55] Quiznos: don't you have some work or something you could be doing? [16:55] http://xkcd.com/386/ <--- is this a scene from your life, Quiznos? [16:55] it's a seething bpot of quanta, not 2d, not 3d, not even 11d or 20d [16:56] mrpwnage lol nop; i got all day to do this :) [16:56] that seething pot is what God first spoke [16:56] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "lalala caindo fora" [16:57] oh, great, now someone's starting up a religious debate [16:57] not at all [16:57] Quiznos: you mispelled nope. [16:57] it's God and Science [16:57] AND [16:57] it's a assembler instruction; nop. [16:57] or, xchg ax, ax [16:57] you pretty much are, plenty of people here will disagree with you, and at least one won't be able to resist arguing about it [16:57] or BRK on 6502 [16:58] you gonna pick up the gauntlet? [16:58] come on [16:58] put em up [16:58] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:58] lol [16:59] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] speaking of assembly code... what do you do, those who know coding? what do you use the skills for? [16:59] reading comprehension :) [16:59] tool chain too [16:59] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:59] or with some simple cpu's, mental recall of hex or octal map for hand encoding. [17:00] can't be just that... [17:00] writing code in asm produces VERY fast binaries [17:00] nop= no oepration [17:00] google `linux assembly' [17:00] up to date, i know only basic and q-basic [17:00] heh [17:01] it can also produce aggravation, incipient ulcers and a mad craving for large quantities of caffeine in early morning hours (eg 4am) [17:01] oh, i wasn't referring strictly to asm. languages too [17:01] sure [17:01] Keiffer it's just study required [17:01] true. but what can one use the skills for? [17:02] anything. [17:02] what do you have in mind? [17:02] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] reeee [17:03] hi [17:03] hello Quiznos nyRednek [17:03] Keiffer: I still write code for the old machines, Atari 800 and 2600, but it's not like I get paid for it [17:03] you get paid for that? [17:03] in 2009? [17:03] lol [17:03] eh, no, I just said I don't [17:03] Write me some ipv6 support for a Cisco 2600 [17:03] oh [17:04] compared to an Atari 2600, a Cisco 2600 is a supercomputer [17:04] lol [17:04] lool [17:04] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Keiffer: actually I made useful use of knowing assembly not too long ago: I compiled wine on slamd64 10.2, and the binary refused to do *anything* (it would run and exit immediately) [17:05] that's kinda sad for me, i am still at that BASIC level. I would start to learn, but i don't know if i'll use the skills someday [17:05] Keiffer: loaded it up in gdb and traced it at the assembly level, it turned out the very first thing it was doing was to call the exit() syscall [17:06] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-131.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] aah asm, the mother of all programming languages! :) [17:06] cool [17:06] the reason turned out to be that the syscalls are numbered differently between x86 and x86_64, and it was trying to call write() or something, but it had been compiled with the wrong header file [17:07] so whatever syscall it was trying to make, it happened to be the same syscall number as exit() on x86_64 [17:08] ugh, compiling the linux kernel takes forever >.> [17:08] but in the end, outside of the domestic-personal use, do you use it for something else? [17:08] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] compgenius999: how long so far? only take 10 minutes on my best computer [17:09] at one time I had a job that involved writing PIC assembly code for a "smart badge" device... but the company went out of business (not my fault I don't think) [17:09] i think 20 mins? [17:09] i only have a crappy P4 [17:09] ah thats how long it takes on these computers right now. im SURROUNDED by P4's right now. it's hot as hell in here [17:09] so many questions it asks to compile... [17:10] okkl (n=yas99@95.66.26.42) joined ##slackware. [17:10] anyone know why vlc mozilla plugin crashes firefox? [17:10] Keiffer: most people who write asm code for a living these days, their target is some tiny embedded system, not a PC [17:10] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.57) joined ##slackware. [17:10] tiny embedded system? [17:10] why would anybody program a program for pc in ASM [17:10] yeah, the computer that's in your car, or your TV, or your microwave... [17:11] okkl (n=yas99@95.66.26.42) left irc: [17:11] or something like a handheld video game system (though a lot of that's done in higher-level languages these days, only the bits that need to be optimized for speed will be done in asm) [17:11] quiznos brain [17:11] compgenius999: the best snes emulator was written in asm, so it ran pretty much perfect on like a 486 or something [17:11] but yeah that was like 15 years ago [17:11] asm is nice to know for using gdb [17:12] archiebenedict: there's also z26, an atari 2600 emulator done in asm (and it ran full speed on a 486, too) [17:12] snL20: amen [17:12] Action: archiebenedict starts collecting 486's and arcade cabinets. [17:14] archiebenedict: I spent a week porting z26 from windows to linux (mostly involved perl scripting to convert microsoft's assembler syntax to nasm, then fixing the corner cases by hand). The original plan was to slowly rewrite everything in portable C, but it kinda got stalled... [17:14] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.57) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] where i work there is a 486. with 512 mb hdd ad 14" monitor [17:14] maybe some day i'll try a linux distro on it [17:14] let's say.. red had enterprise? [17:14] Keiffer: find a Slackware 3.3 or 4.0 iso, it should run great :) [17:14] 512MB space? theres no way you can fill that up [17:15] anyone ever thought that? [17:15] Keiffer: lol a 486 for running linux... [17:15] Action: snL20 is currently running linux on Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200 @ 2.53GHz [17:16] old computers are really cool. [17:16] archiebenedict: I never thought that, by the time I had a 512MB drive, I'd been through "I'll never fill this up" a few times (first time was with a 30MB drive... "Whoa, that's like 100 floppy disks!") [17:16] and ald dos games too [17:16] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:16] Keiffer: like doom 1&2 :) [17:16] lol [17:17] titus the fox [17:17] Action: Urchlay still plays Doom II sometimes [17:17] Urchlay: I have both doom 1 and 2 running on prboom :) [17:17] but not on DOS, I use a modern openGL-based engine. Makes Doom/Doom2 as pretty as at least Quake II [17:17] hi slackboy :) [17:17] snL20: try doomsday sometime, with the high resolution pack [17:17] how are you [17:18] Urchlay: sure, I only use prboom because there is a package for archlinux :) [17:18] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.57) joined ##slackware. [17:18] slackboy, i have installed Ubuntu [17:18] ooh, doomsday's in the portage tree [17:18] on 'dad pc [17:18] :p [17:18] OMG, YES, linux finally is compiled [17:18] :D [17:18] the one thing that sucks about doomsday is that most 3rd-party add-on levels crash the engine or render badly... it's really only good for playing the original games [17:19] then this is where you find out it doesnt work, and you have to change 1 option and compile again compgenius999 [17:19] never tried Doom on Linux [17:19] archiebenedict: its in the AUR :) [17:19] aur? [17:19] where do is the mplayerplug-in so i can tell firefox to use it? [17:19] which files do i have to move to /boot ? [17:19] NyteOwl: try this one: http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/ :) [17:20] archiebenedict: archlinux user repository [17:20] Nick change: mrpwnage -> mrselfpwn [17:21] NyteOwl: prboom works ok, for that genuine feel :) [17:21] :) [17:22] i wonder how far will the technology will progress. 2TB hdds availble. and 15 yers ago i had Z80. [17:22] k, i've compiled the kernel, now which files do i need to move? [17:22] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-76-247.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:22] lol [17:22] the cpu market i see that isn't going too fast. 3GHz but multiple cores... [17:22] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [17:22] I found my Quake 1 CD but can't find my unlock code. Lost with a bunch of other papers I suspect [17:24] i herd u can overclock a powerpc to 5ghz keiffer [17:24] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] slackboy joined ##slackware. [17:27] yeah, it sure was. [17:27] Camarade_Tux, hellooooooo [17:27] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest8855 [17:27] snL20: when you paid for the shareware version you got an unlock code that registered it and let you access the other elvels on the CD [17:27] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] reee fire|bird :) [17:27] haha, slackboy didn't identify in time. :P [17:27] Nick change: BP{k}_ -> Guest46334 [17:27] Nick change: droog -> Guest57388 [17:27] hi fredoslack [17:27] ioo slackboy :) [17:27] this is too much now my soccer game got canceled [17:28] Nick change: Guest8855 -> slacklad [17:28] Failed|Artist: hahaha [17:28] The Fail continues [17:28] someone tell me what files i have to move to get this new linux kernel to work? [17:28] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [17:28] fire|bird it does.... [17:28] Failed|Artist: Hop aboard the fail train, destination Failsville, NC. Enjoy the ride. [17:29] Action: Failed|Artist rides the train [17:29] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:29] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:29] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [17:30] slackboy: \o/ [17:30] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest54247 [17:30] lol [17:30] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] NyteOwl: all you need from the Quake 1 CD is the pak files [17:31] Nick change: Guest54247 -> slacklad [17:31] identity crisis ? [17:32] hey trophies|faulty [17:32] err Urchlay [17:32] Urchlay: what do you use to play quake ? [17:32] hello fire|bird [17:32] hello mrselfpwn [17:33] hello fire|bird [17:33] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.178.85) joined ##slackware. [17:33] hello metrofox [17:33] snL20: either DarkPlaces or quakeforge [17:33] hi there! [17:33] metrofox: ciao :) [17:33] hi fire|bird [17:33] ciao Failed|Artist [17:33] Urchlay: ok cool thanks [17:33] how is going there? [17:33] darkplaces is nice, but needs a little beefier graphics card [17:33] not well for me [17:34] Failed|Artist, hope that things will get better :) [17:34] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: "senate/irc:0.1b -- by cyberpunk.." [17:35] Failed|Artist: for sure, your game got canceled, you can't make a banner, you can't type. :P [17:35] metrofox: grazie :) [17:35] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [17:35] Nick change: Guest46334 -> BP{k} [17:35] Nick change: compgenius999 -> guest12345 [17:35] Failed|Artist, are you italian? [17:35] metrofox: I'm deco :P [17:35] slackboy, [17:35] iooooo :) [17:35] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest63114 [17:35] Urchlay: GeForce 9800 GT good enough ? [17:35] whatfilesdoicopyaftercompilingthekerneltogetittowork? [17:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428723.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:35] fire|bird: life is against me.... [17:35] Failed|Artist, well... Dai, non preoccuparti(don't worry) ;) [17:35] snL20: probably so. It runs OK on my crappy old fx5500 [17:36] Nick change: Guest63114 -> slacklad [17:36] metrofox: thanks :) yeah i understood that :) [17:36] Urchlay: ok cool.... [17:36] though I may have had to turn down some detail, I can't really remember (not played quake in a while) [17:36] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:36] what files do i copy after compiling the kernel to get it to work? [17:36] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.172) joined ##slackware. [17:37] guest12345: why nick change ? we know it's you :P [17:37] hi mohaa [17:38] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [17:38] comhack (n=comhack@207-255-87-053-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:38] bah [17:38] fail [17:38] fuck [17:38] hahaha [17:38] lol [17:39] rworkman: you can do it! \o/ [17:39] cal (n=cal@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [17:39] hi rworkman [17:39] Action: eviljames /nick failboy [17:39] dammit, why isn't it working? [17:39] Nick change: cal -> Guest57052 [17:39] How the hell do I set nick from within the bot??? :/ [17:39] ohhhhhh [17:39] How can I find hardware info such as whether a PC has AGP or PCIe slots? [17:40] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [17:40] Guest57052: by opening the case. [17:40] Action: eviljames ducks & runs [17:40] eviljames: Other than opening the case...? [17:40] Urchlay: do you know any way of extracting the files off the quake1 cd ? [17:40] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:40] eviljames: are you still a Failed|Artist ? [17:40] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest84866 [17:40] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:40] reeee [17:40] Failed|Artist: so far, but another guitarist I'm working with should be swinging by, hopefully we can get some stuff worked out shortly [17:41] eviljames: nice [17:41] Nick change: Guest84866 -> slacklad [17:41] Failed|Artist: I've managed to play the first 30 or so barres of the most recent composition though. [17:41] only about 80 more to go :P [17:41] eviljames: :P [17:41] Action: Failed|Artist feels better his not the only fail [17:41] what is the procedure for enabling ntp to periodically set the sytem clock to a particular time server? [17:42] what's up with all this guests , all the good nicks are taken ? [17:42] these* [17:42] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.57) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:42] Guest57052: use kde system settings or run a cron job [17:42] Failed|Artist: the netsplit + people are away = can't identify in 30 seconds, therefore you get switched to Guest# [17:42] macius (n=macius@i209-195-87-140.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Failed|Artist: I think it is a function of the server, or the latest version of irssi that ships with 13.0, not sure which.... [17:43] Oh well, the pass I have is bad too. Time to go home. [17:43] fire|bird: k [17:43] Nick change: Panzer_ -> Panzer [17:44] irssi-0.8.14 here [17:44] me too svn :) [17:44] Rat409: Ok.... tnx [17:45] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [17:45] when I make a soft symlink, is this the correct command: "ln -s ~/downloads/SomeDirWithMusicInIt/ ~/music/" [17:45] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest77163 [17:46] Nick change: Guest77163 -> slacklad [17:46] Reticenti: yes [17:47] Rat409: when I do that, it says this when I try to cd into the symlinked dir "bash: cd: TheDirI'mGoingTo : Too many levels of symbolic links" [17:49] is it possible that ~/downloads/SomeDirWithMusicInIt/ was already a symlink to ~/music? [17:49] ah, i figured it out [17:49] fire|bird, you are welcome on #informatique [17:49] ;) [17:49] on irc.voila.fr [17:49] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:49] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-42-207-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:49] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.57) joined ##slackware. [17:49] I was doing "ln -s orginal ~/new" when I should have done "ln -s ~/dls/orginal ~/new" [17:50] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [17:50] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest83294 [17:50] Nick change: Guest83294 -> slackboy [17:51] slacklad joined ##slackware. [17:52] will the eal slackboy please stand up [17:52] s/eal/real [17:52] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:52] later [17:52] see ya Rat409 [17:52] seeya fire|bird [17:52] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [17:55] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [17:55] Action: Failed|Artist life is just a game if you take it too seriously you'll fail [17:55] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest96592 [17:55] DidierSpaier (n=didier@inv75-1-81-57-28-169.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] Nick change: Guest96592 -> slacklad [17:56] guest12345 (n=guest123@unaffiliated/compgenius999) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] Failed|Artist: haha [17:57] DidierSpaier (n=didier@inv75-1-81-57-28-169.fbx.proxad.net) left ##slackware. [17:57] lol [17:57] DidierSpaier (n=didier@inv75-1-81-57-28-169.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Destinéeeeeee [17:57] :) [17:58] inutile de fuire ou de lutterrrrrrr [17:58] :p [17:58] :P [17:58] =) [17:58] fire|bird: wise words..... [17:59] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:59] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [18:00] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:00] re [18:00] re Quiznos :) [18:00] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest7192 [18:00] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:00] Quiznos: \o/ [18:00] hi [18:00] re Failed|Artist :) [18:00] omg its the PeanutHorst !!! [18:00] NyteOwl: got darkplaces to work :) [18:01] Nick change: Guest7192 -> slacklad [18:01] snL20: nice [18:01] hi hi [18:01] Urchlay: yeah, read the quake howto on how to extract the files using lha... [18:01] lha is nice [18:01] robrock (n=robrock@c-71-203-215-10.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [18:02] i bought a bottle of beer [18:02] maybe for tonight [18:02] nice [18:02] BomberBank (n=BomberBa@user-54464f96.lns3-c12.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Action: Failed|Artist doesn't drink [18:02] quick question on this new pc it has realtech onboard hd soundcard will linux support it ? [18:02] we dont know [18:02] robrock: most likely [18:02] only god konws [18:02] knows* [18:02] arghh, i've seriously fucked something up [18:02] i only bought the beer for the taste [18:02] BomberBank details [18:02] snl20 thanks. [18:02] i think i accidently compiled the new kernel without ext4 support :| [18:02] /nick compgenius999 [18:03] wtf fail [18:03] /nick compgenius999 [18:03] robrock google is best [18:03] .... [18:03] BomberBank: calm down [18:03] robrock (n=robrock@c-71-203-215-10.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Taking my Vortec IRC elsewhere..."). [18:03] well that was rood [18:03] indeed [18:03] BomberBank did you rm the prvious kernel? [18:03] to boot with? [18:04] pick one fstype and use it exclusively [18:04] no [18:04] no need having multiples for fs/ you cant boot on [18:04] i added the new kernel to my grub [18:04] BomberBank can you boot prior kernel? [18:04] i booted into the previous kernel [18:04] does it have e4? [18:04] i guess i have to recompile it again, and yes it has ext4 [18:04] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:04] then what are you cryin about? you've got no probs. [18:05] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:05] it said there were no availible partitions so i guess i missed out the ext4 option [18:05] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:05] come back when you rm / [18:05] :) [18:05] i'm not that stupid quiznos [18:05] lol [18:05] heh [18:05] good [18:05] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-76-247.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:05] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [18:05] and u mean rm -rf rite? [18:05] so reconf [18:05] nop [18:05] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest86438 [18:05] i never say that [18:05] too many stoopit people on this planet [18:05] may think i'm being literal [18:05] lol [18:06] Nick change: Guest86438 -> slacklad [18:06] Quiznos: Do you have anything useful to share or are you just giving out bad advice 'cause it's all you've got? [18:06] alittle of both :) [18:06] :) [18:06] liten up [18:06] it's the weekend [18:06] Alan_Hicks: I think his track record shows that it's all he's got. [18:06] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]" [18:06] hey Quiznos, long time no see mate! how are you?> [18:06] ah now don't hate on Quiznos [18:06] good lad [18:06] PeanutHorst !!! hihi; i'm ok ty; how are you? [18:07] fire|bird: I know. The question was rhetorical. I should have known he wouldn't have understood that. [18:07] not too bad [18:07] DidierSpaier (n=didier@inv75-1-81-57-28-169.fbx.proxad.net) left ##slackware. [18:07] good [18:07] about to go to oktoberfest celebrations :D [18:07] Alan_Hicks: :) [18:07] damn, i wanna go [18:07] get drunk and lear [18:07] lol [18:07] NIkita you never knoooow [18:07] i'm single; i'm allowed [18:07] lol [18:07] Quiznos: Please do and spare us. [18:07] same [18:07] Urchlay: 954 fps on timedemo [18:07] single here! wooooo [18:07] macius (n=macius@i209-195-87-140.cia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:07] alan get a sense-o-humor from Acme.com [18:07] snL20: damn dude [18:08] Nick change: BomberBank -> compgenius999 [18:08] NIkitta i need you soo ;) [18:08] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] who is this Nikita you refer to? [18:09] his imaginary friend ? [18:09] apparently; maybe Alan_Hicks needs one? [18:09] maybe [18:09] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Alan_Hicks when you were a child, did you have an imaginary friend? [18:09] Quiznos: Maybe my imaginary friend is more intelligent and helpful than you are? [18:10] s/Maybe/Undoubtedly/ [18:10] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:10] Quiznos: Yes. His name was Quiznos and he was funny and smart. But then I grew up and learned the truth. [18:10] oh good, you're still friends? she didnt divorce you and take the dust bunnies? [18:10] lol [18:10] pff [18:10] you're no phun [18:10] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest38994 [18:10] Quiznos, i has seen Elton [18:10] Jhon [18:10] lol [18:10] ioon a conceert [18:10] I've seen jim morrison [18:10] on * [18:10] in my sleep [18:11] Nick change: Guest38994 -> slacklad [18:11] breaking through the other side [18:11] Failed|Artist, I played guitar with jim hendrix once... [18:11] metrofox: :O [18:11] damn you're old [18:11] lol [18:11] lol [18:11] in my sleep... [18:11] metrofox: That was Jim Henson. [18:11] nop too late [18:12] you're old! [18:12] Quiznos, okay okay, I admit it... This was real(that seemed to be...) [18:12] laissons, laissons entrer le soleil [18:12] let's us [18:13] the thing of it is, is that dreams are real; God talks to you while you sleep and you behave as you would when awake. [18:13] bleah, anyone know a Linux utility to extract a windows icon from a .exe file? (there's icotool for converting .ico files to .png, but it doesn't seem to know what to do with an exe) [18:13] enter the sujn [18:13] Quiznos: god hasn't talked to me in a while now ... [18:13] Urchlay change its extension, or is this a smart tool? :) [18:13] Quiznos, there's one issue, when I sleep I always forget what I dreamed, even if I'm in REM phase... [18:13] Failed|Artist my condolensces [18:13] metrofox yea me too. [18:13] Quiznos: if you think god talks to you then please go check yourself in to your local insane asylum [18:13] Quiznos: thanks, i dunno way maybe i have sined ? [18:13] i've told God i wanna remember [18:14] Failed|Artist nop [18:14] Urchlay: I don't know of a dedicated tool for that, but you might want to look into using WINE. [18:14] Quiznos: k [18:14] snL20: darkplaces? [18:14] Pig_Pen no nescitia [18:14] Alan_Hicks: actually it looks like "wrestool" can do it (part of icoutils) [18:14] Urchlay: cool [18:15] Failed|Artist you know Cain murdered his brother; God still spoke to Cain afterwards; the point is that there's no reason NOT to talk to him and get a answer. [18:15] God talks to Quiznos in his sleep, 'cause Quiznos can't argue with him then. [18:15] Quiznos: wise words my friend... [18:15] ty [18:15] Pig_Pen: I talk to myself all the time :p [18:15] Alan_Hicks close that sleeve over your heart [18:16] Quiznos, did Cain exist? [18:16] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:16] yes [18:16] mariocki (n=pikea@cpc4-bagu10-0-0-cust675.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:16] slackboy personal probs? [18:16] Quiznos: Fill that gaping void between your ears first. [18:16] it's filling tyvm [18:16] it's a process [18:16] Quiznos, didn't know it... [18:16] Yeah, slackboy's having an intentity crisis. [18:16] ok [18:16] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest60427 [18:16] NyteOwl: quake1 engine that runs under linux :) [18:16] Quiznos: I think I might try talking to jesus now [18:16] kool [18:16] say hi for me too [18:16] Quiznos: oh i will, i mean it's better because you can see his face... [18:17] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:17] Nick change: Guest60427 -> slacklad [18:17] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@adsl-32-192-238.bgk.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] Failed|Artist havent yet in person [18:17] Quiznos: i hope i will ... [18:17] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:17] Failed|Artist, when you'll be speaking him also tell I want an answer, not an hard one... "Why did I born in Italy?" [18:17] metrofox: because you are roman ? [18:17] peopel of god ? [18:17] people* [18:17] lol roman [18:17] Failed|Artist, not properly... [18:17] that's funi [18:18] metrofox: you dont want a hard one eh ? [18:18] :D [18:18] metrofox: hmmmm well you invinted jesus [18:18] ;) [18:18] snL20: have you palyed Doom3 with the extension pack? [18:18] NyteOwl: no, not with the extension pack [18:18] metrofox: constatin :) [18:18] constantin* [18:18] snL20: real bastiche [18:19] Failed|Artist, I watched that film some year ago... I don't remember anything about that right now... [18:19] metrofox: k [18:19] I should review it... [18:19] yes [18:19] Quiznos: do you want to meet jesus together ? [18:19] might be easier for us [18:19] heh he has my desired itinerary [18:19] Now, join the silence, close your eyes, keep my hands and think... [18:20] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:20] (LOL) [18:20] heh [18:20] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest58141 [18:20] Action: metrofox asks himself how long he doesn't go to church... [18:20] Action: Failed|Artist ah i see the beard! [18:20] metrofox: I have never been to church in my life [18:21] Nick change: Guest58141 -> slacklad [18:21] NyteOwl: what does 'bastiche' mean ? [18:21] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] greetings and salutations [18:21] lazy spalink of bastard [18:21] greetings andarius, how are you? [18:21] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:21] damn doublespeak [18:22] salutations fire|bird. i am alive, you? [18:22] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [18:22] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [18:22] ciao g4tt0 [18:22] andarius: I am great, thank you. :) [18:22] ho metrofox :) [18:22] hi* [18:22] metrofox: la mia culpa , la mia culpa.... :( [18:22] hoe metrofox :D [18:22] looks like most of the weekend crowd is drifting in [18:22] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-77-45.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:22] Failed|Artist, just don't care :P [18:22] metrofox: hehe :P [18:23] Guest57388 (n=droog@71-34-72-48.ptld.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [18:23] metrofox: put your hands in the air! [18:24] wotcha BP{k} :) [18:24] and say holèèè? [18:24] aleluya! [18:24] ahah [18:24] metrofox: wave 'em around like you just dont care! [18:24] dio e grande! [18:24] waffle [18:25] andarius: mmm waffles [18:25] eheh.... Dio è grande e dio è buono... as they say... [18:25] waffle waffle [18:25] metrofox: hehe [18:25] wotcha andarius :) [18:25] I'm a little hungry right now... I need Nutella :P [18:25] metrofox: my italian is not so bad :P [18:25] Failed|Artist, nono, that's good ;) [18:25] metrofox: thanks, my spanish helps me a lot [18:26] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:26] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest8182 [18:26] Failed|Artist, spanish and/or italian might also help you to learn french [18:26] metrofox: french nah i gave up on that :P [18:26] metrofox: took one year , it's so hard to speak [18:27] Nick change: Guest8182 -> slacklad [18:27] snL20: it's a combination f bastard and bitch :p [18:27] NyteOwl: lol ok =) [18:27] Failed|Artist, yeah, that's right... I meet difficulties too speaking, not writing... I mean, it's also hard because they've got a lot of accents but that's not so hard... [18:27] metrofox: i love italian ,spanish,portuguese but french nah so differen't :P [18:28] speaking wise [18:28] Failed|Artist, I love English... :D [18:28] metrofox: :) [18:28] ok let's fix a slackware prob [18:28] you ? [18:28] or something similar [18:28] Quiznos: hmmm [18:28] Quiznos, we're ready... [18:28] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [18:28] go go go! [18:28] you can present your own if you have one. [18:29] k hmmmm [18:29] let me think.... [18:30] slackware is perfect .... [18:30] jescis (n=Administ@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:30] hard to come up [18:30] what's broken? [18:30] hmmmmm [18:30] nothing ? [18:30] Quiznos, my mind right now... [18:30] ok [18:30] same here [18:30] my creativity is down [18:30] otherwise; politics [18:30] heh [18:30] T_T [18:31] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:31] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest93914 [18:31] have you seen the movie the motorcycle diaries ? [18:31] ughh, i can't get this new kernel to boot. [18:31] Chicago is not going to be host to Games [18:31] not i [18:31] Quiznos: brazil right ? [18:31] compgenius999 ok you're up [18:31] details man! [18:32] Nick change: Guest93914 -> slacklad [18:32] Failed|Artist Rio [18:32] Quiznos: yup [18:32] \O/ [18:32] bamer wasted a trip; him, wif, and Harpo [18:32] kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,2) [18:32] he must be pissed [18:32] Rio De Janerio voce [18:32] wtf, this time i configured everything right [18:32] no, you didn't [18:32] compgenius999, no... [18:32] compgenius999 can you boot to that partition with another kenrel? [18:32] yep [18:33] ok; read rdev manpage for setting boot and root partitions. [18:33] i copied it almost exactly as my old kernel [18:33] but changed the vmlinuz file to the new kernel [18:33] and it says theres no availible partitions [18:33] Rio got it because s. America has NEVER hosted a Game [18:34] i compiled it with ext4 support too [18:34] ok [18:34] Quiznos: yup fair enough [18:34] use rdev.8 [18:34] i dont care anymore about the Games [18:34] it's just one big commercial. [18:34] long too [18:34] you must not be a hockey fan. [18:35] nop but i'm not vociferous about it. [18:35] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:35] I go to eat something... I'll be right back =) [18:35] i can spectate most sports [18:35] k [18:35] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest98406 [18:35] Quiznos: i only watch the soccer world cup [18:35] omg Pele is still alive!?! [18:35] heh, that last netsplit rendered slackboy a broken bot. :P [18:36] Quiznos: yeah [18:36] wow [18:36] i remember him from back in the day [18:36] his day [18:36] Quiznos: played in black and white tv [18:36] LoL fire|bird [18:36] Failed|Artist: get that banner done yet? :P [18:36] lol [18:36] Nick change: Guest98406 -> slacklad [18:36] fire|bird: shuddap [18:36] Am I pissing you off-fa-fa [18:36] :D [18:36] T_T [18:36] fire|bird: I'm just looking at templates for inspiration atm [18:37] sure, uh huh. :P [18:37] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:37] Quiznos: but imp , diego maradona best soccer player the world ever had [18:37] imo* [18:37] You're staring at that sky background again, aren't ya? :P [18:37] Failed|Artist ok [18:37] duh, you're all wrong. [18:37] It's Zdeno Zidane. [18:37] fire|bird: nah something really differen't [18:37] ooo a sports flame war [18:37] That's the best football (soccer) player ever. [18:37] that's very rare [18:37] Quiznos: stuff it. [18:38] fire|bird: dude that sky background is some tricky stuff [18:38] byteme [18:38] nice [18:38] eviljames: diego right ? [18:38] wow, that was original [18:38] Failed|Artist: Zidane. [18:38] wutz rdev.8? [18:38] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:38] read the manpage [18:38] eviljames: blah [18:38] find out that way [18:38] what's wutz? [18:38] eviljames: amazing player but nothing like maradona [18:38] rdev.8 [18:38] compgenius999: step 1: man (topic) if that fails, then ask :P [18:38] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:38] Failed|Artist: I'm just happy about the headbutt heard round the world [18:39] although i wish zenedin zadan head butt george bush when he said god told him to go kill the mid east [18:39] eviljames: yeah lol [18:39] eviljames lol [18:39] Failed|Artist: I asked a few friends of mine from France and they were universal in their condemnation [18:39] if he literally runs "man rdev.8", he won't get anything... [18:39] Not their condemnation of the headbutt, but of Zidane: "He's not french.. He's /algerian/." [18:39] condemning what? [18:39] eviljames: yeah but they failed at the pks.... [18:39] Urchlay o [18:39] compgenius999 man rdev [18:39] man 8 rdev [18:39] Quiznos: for headbutt [18:39] did it [18:39] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:39] Failed|Artist: No, for him being Algerian. [18:40] Urchlay IMO man should accept that syntax too [18:40] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:40] eviljames: ohhhhhhhhhh [18:40] i think it's a bug [18:40] Quiznos: alias it? [18:40] wont work [18:40] man.c is borkd [18:40] :) [18:40] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest83905 [18:40] eviljames: well he was born in france... [18:40] what I really hate are systems where man won't take a path to a not-installed man page [18:40] eviljames: sad that a pure french can't play as good as him [18:40] yea, so you cant do man ./file? [18:40] yeah [18:41] Nick change: Guest83905 -> slacklad [18:41] agreed [18:41] Where's fredoslack or Camarade_Tux when I need them, they might have chuckled at that.. [18:41] gnu man can do it [18:41] eviljames: yup, but seriously it's sad a real french man can't do it but a algerian/french can :) [18:41] eviljames they'll show up in they own damned good time :) [18:41] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [18:41] Quiznos: what time is it in france? [18:41] retreat time [18:41] .+6h i think [18:42] Quiznos, just did rdev /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31.3 and it said Root device: /dev/hdb3 [18:42] Quiznos: yeah [18:42] lol [18:42] 12:41 AM [18:42] compgenius999 is that a correct response? [18:42] ty [18:42] Failed|Artist: heheh, fair enough. I cheer Dublin (yea... dublin :( [18:42] compgenius999: you are a compdumbass999 [18:42] yep [18:42] fyi [18:42] eviljames: harhar [18:42] Quiznos yeah it's right [18:42] ok [18:42] straterra: lol [18:42] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [18:43] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:43] compgenius999 now do the root dev [18:43] straterra: how much do rats cost ? [18:43] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:43] huh? [18:43] Failed|Artist: just a buck or two [18:43] rdev can set boot and root devices [18:43] straterra: ok good [18:43] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-207-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:43] Failed|Artist: depends on how much they have to spill [18:45] eviljames: and the new future *french star* happens to be algerian too..... go figure [18:45] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:45] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest54123 [18:45] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] Nick change: Guest54123 -> slacklad [18:46] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:46] Failed|Artist: hahahah, I can't wait to tell people around here [18:46] eviljames: :) [18:46] TigerWoods is the first billion dollar winner [18:46] bbl [18:46] winner/earner [18:46] bye [18:46] rdev isn't all that useful this century, lilo and grub are perfectly able to pass the root device to the kernel... so whatever you're doing, if it involves using rdev, you're probably doing it wrong :) [18:47] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:47] Urchlay perhaps but it rm's uncertainty [18:47] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] *shrug*, I dunno what he's doing or why, just thought that might be useful advice to save him some confusion [18:48] archiebenedict ya know, your nick is very funi [18:48] Urchlay i'm leading him [18:48] Quiznos: howso? [18:48] archiebenedict archie ~= diminutive of arch, or passage way; [18:48] o hi [18:48] archiebenedict a tiny doorway? [18:48] archiebenedict benedict ~= latin for good words; good speaker [18:48] archie is short for archibald. means genuin [18:48] benedict means blessed [18:49] archiebenedict midget podium? [18:49] rofl [18:49] no, it means good words [18:49] rofl [18:49] would i be able to use qemu to see if my kernel works? [18:49] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.57) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:49] well that works too [18:49] lmao [18:49] benedict=bendesido in spanish [18:49] tyvm :) [18:49] dict ~= dicta, words written or spoken. [18:49] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [18:49] bene same in spanish; good. [18:50] "The Bene Gesserit witch must leave!" [18:50] ok [18:50] Quiznos: bien means good in spanish [18:50] lol [18:50] sure [18:50] http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Archibald [18:50] lol [18:50] ok [18:50] http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Benedict [18:51] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:51] my birthname means Honor and Fidelity; that's what i am. [18:51] sometimes I even use that as my autograph. [18:51] my name is in hebrew [18:51] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest0 [18:51] poh then you get what i'm doin! [18:51] how'd you end up being called Quiznos? [18:51] wow umm [18:51] doesn't like the sub ? [18:52] Nick change: Guest0 -> slacklad [18:52] i wanted a proper noun that was flexibile in abuse [18:52] when packages are patched, and they have the same version number, does that imply that the source is not available at the package maintainer's site? [18:52] and for imaginative use [18:52] no honor or fidelity, just slightly above-average fast food sandwiches [18:52] heh [18:52] where's rworkman ? he unleashed the beast [18:52] that is slackboy [18:53] Loki and the Fenriswolf are upon us! [18:53] oh, different beast [18:53] slackboy needs a slackgirl [18:53] everyone has needs... [18:54] Action: Quiznos looks on the menu [18:54] nop [18:54] I go to bed now... Goodbye slackers... ciao Failed|Artist :) [18:54] I think we all need a slackgirl... [18:54] mj's gone [18:54] metrofox: ciao :) [18:54] gn fox [18:54] Quiznos: why is she gone ? [18:54] byeee metrofox [18:54] ciao Quiznos :) [18:54] you mean just afk ? [18:54] later metrofox [18:54] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.178.85) left irc: "Segmentation Fault" [18:54] dumo details, i think she flamed out [18:54] Quiznos: :O [18:54] MidComMobile (n=zsirc@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Quiznos: shes in the channel, her nick is showing [18:55] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [18:55] Quiznos: oh mj [18:55] orly? [18:55] jane [18:55] Quiznos: nvm [18:55] k [18:55] Action: MidComMobile snuggles Quiznos [18:55] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest83004 [18:55] i think she lost her mind for some unknown reason [18:55] lol [18:55] Quiznos: nobody knows why ro don't wanna say :( [18:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:55] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [18:55] MidComMobile (n=zsirc@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left ##slackware. [18:55] well it happened in sl*offtopic i think [18:56] oh [18:56] Nick change: Guest83004 -> slacklad [18:56] Quiznos: maybe winter knows ? [18:56] i've been assaulted; hug and run why dontcha? [18:56] lol [18:56] lol [18:57] Quiznos: trying to talk to winter atm [18:57] k [18:57] did you know his poish ? [18:57] polish* [18:57] nop [18:57] well know you konw [18:58] now* [18:58] know* [18:58] dont be a nbc PSA [18:58] lol [18:58] lol [18:58] eviljames: =) [18:58] rofl [18:58] good you go tit [18:58] got it [18:58] tux, he's afk i think [18:58] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Quiznos: i didn't [18:58] oh [18:58] i just played along [18:58] Action: Failed|Artist hugs Camarade_Tux [18:58] nbc is national broadcasting company, nbc.com [18:59] Quiznos: oh that ... [18:59] Action: Camarade_Tux puts his hands on Failed|Artist's back and moves them down [18:59] PSA == public service announcement; a pain in the ass pre-green pseudo-fee-good msg [18:59] fee/feel [18:59] Quiznos: bah, he complains I'm not there and then he leaves :P [18:59] yea [18:59] eviljames: it's 1am in France now [18:59] Camarade_Tux: go easy k [18:59] he even asked the time in .eu [18:59] send a memo [19:00] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:00] slackboy: what's wrong ? [19:00] Action: Camarade_Tux is reading the backlogs [19:00] slackboy: you want love ? [19:00] jeev: zinedine zidane btw [19:00] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest94236 [19:00] Camarade_Tux: go home [19:00] Failed|Artist: I *am* home ;) [19:00] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75.145.67.114) left ##slackware. [19:01] Camarade_Tux: well go to sleep [19:01] Nick change: Guest94236 -> slacklad [19:01] Failed|Artist: actually I'm wondering if I'll code a bit tonight or tomorrow :P [19:01] code what? [19:01] Camarade_Tux: your browser ? [19:01] Failed|Artist: a dependency of it [19:01] Camarade_Tux: ah [19:02] Camarade_Tux: i wish i knew how to code [19:02] Camarade_Tux: I'm learning php [19:02] Quiznos: i think winter is afk [19:02] k [19:02] nbd [19:02] Camarade_Tux: aloha [19:02] yoyo mrselfpwn [19:03] Camarade_Tux: do you consider Sarkozy french ? [19:03] when do we start drinking? [19:03] linuxexpert_ (n=chatzill@124.43.57.32) joined ##slackware. [19:03] LE!!! [19:03] Quiznos: when you buy the beer [19:03] and chips [19:03] i got it here now [19:03] them too [19:03] :) [19:03] Failed|Artist: just remember that code is simple, if it isn't simple, you're doing it wrong ;) [19:03] amen [19:03] Camarade_Tux: will remember :) thanks [19:04] elegant is the proper word [19:04] comhack (n=comhack@unaffiliated/comhack) joined ##slackware. [19:04] Camarade_Tux: Seek simplicity... then distrust it. [19:04] Failed|Artist: he definitely is french, that's what his papers say, he speaks french and he studied in france, and maybe more [19:04] deco is on crack [19:04] brb [19:04] Camarade_Tux: do you consider Zidane french ? [19:04] Quiznos: already drank :) [19:04] Failed|Artist: same thing [19:04] so was jeev's mom [19:04] Camarade_Tux: ok good :) [19:05] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:05] and I'm french *and* lebanese [19:05] Camarade_Tux: oh, french from what side ? [19:05] slackboy is a transexual/androgyne :o [19:05] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest90635 [19:05] (androgyne but I don't know the english for it) [19:05] Action: Failed|Artist hugs jeev [19:05] Failed|Artist: lebanese father and french mother [19:05] Camarade_Tux: k cool [19:06] Nick change: Guest90635 -> slacklad [19:06] Camarade_Tux: my french teacher was lebanese [19:07] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Failed|Artist: not so surprising, I don't know arabic/lebanese at all because when I was a kid and was in Lebanon, I could always speak french [19:07] Action: Camarade_Tux gonna code a tiny bit [19:07] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Camarade_Tux: born in france or lebanon ? [19:08] Camarade_Tux: yeah i know they speak the french over there too [19:08] Failed|Artist: in France, and I've almost always lived in France [19:08] Camarade_Tux: k [19:08] I've been going to Lebanon during the summer holidays [19:08] Camarade_Tux: nice [19:09] thrice`, you might fall down a mountain tonight, be careful [19:09] k [19:10] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:10] wait; who's french here? [19:10] Quiznos: Camarade_Tux [19:10] Camarade_Tux gotta question for ya [19:10] omg you didn't know ? [19:10] nop [19:10] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest90809 [19:10] k [19:10] now you know [19:11] Camarade_Tux is Joan D'Arc thought of continually or just a part of history? [19:11] Nick change: Guest90809 -> slacklad [19:11] somebody is happy it's friday, eh deco ? [19:11] hvera1981 (n=hamilton@200.251.188.130) left irc: "Leaving" [19:11] jeev: nah just happy to see you :) [19:11] Action: Failed|Artist hugs jeev [19:11] Action: Failed|Artist with passion [19:12] oh damn it's already 4pm and haven't done shit.... [19:12] heh [19:12] Jeanne d'Arc ( ;) ) is just a part of history unless you're a specific right-extremist party and use her for xenophobic purposes... [19:12] nasty [19:12] it's 4 pm and i've done thrice's mom as much as my penis could handle [19:12] Camarade_Tux really? her name is used that way? [19:12] 5 < x < 9 times [19:12] 7 [19:12] rhys (n=rhysrhav@66.102.98.194.ip.anet.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:13] buttsecks [19:13] o_O [19:13] Quiznos: well, rather her "day" [19:13] Camarade_Tux explain? [19:13] kicking out the "english"? way? [19:14] Camarade_Tux: against arabes ? [19:14] ah [19:14] Quiznos: the story is as follows: (as I see it) on 1st of May, we have Labour Day which is celebrated most heavily by left-wing parties, and this extreme-right one has a somehow counter-celebration [19:14] ok [19:14] I think they do it that day specifically because it's Labour Day [19:14] nods [19:15] mayDay is a genral theme around the globe [19:15] Failed|Artist: arabs, asians, anybody [19:15] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-14-135.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:15] mayFifth too [19:15] Camarade_Tux: k [19:15] that sucks [19:15] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [19:15] Camarade_Tux there are only a few more decades left in this age; then it'll get better. [19:15] really better [19:15] Quiznos: 2012 ? [19:15] ~2070 [19:15] decades [19:15] k [19:15] oh k [19:16] not months [19:16] lol [19:16] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:16] k [19:16] shuddap [19:16] lol [19:16] :) [19:16] Quiznos: the party leader doesn't seem to willing to die despite his age (>70) [19:16] wow [19:16] Camarade_Tux ok [19:16] Camarade_Tux: oh it's the creazy guy that hates jews right ? [19:16] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest94612 [19:16] Camarade_Tux: he tried to run for president right ? [19:16] who is that [19:16] jeev: you [19:16] Camarade_Tux name him [19:17] other than me [19:17] Nick change: Guest94612 -> slacklad [19:17] there are millions [19:17] jeev: go back to lurking [19:17] Failed|Artist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Marie_Le_Pen [19:17] i just got done lurking all over thrice`'s moms belly [19:17] Camarade_Tux: yeah it's him [19:17] Camarade_Tux: i remember [19:17] k [19:17] actually he's 81 [19:17] i dont know of him [19:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-3-24.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] but i'll listen for him now [19:17] evil person [19:18] you rang? [19:18] said that france was doing better when the nazis occupied it [19:18] eviljames: evil person not emo [19:18] jews are anti-gentilists [19:18] that's racism [19:18] pff wrong [19:19] they're so good at marketing though, i should hire some [19:19] linuxexpert (n=chatzill@124.43.152.106) left irc: Connection timed out [19:19] eviljames: \o/ [19:19] group hug! [19:19] \o/ [19:19] Action: Failed|Artist hugs Quiznos Camarade_Tux eviljames [19:19] stop hugging me damnit [19:20] thank god [19:20] not you [19:20] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:20] WHO PINCHED MY MEAT [19:20] lol [19:20] Quiznos: must be Camarade_Tux [19:20] Action: eviljames slowsly raises his hand [19:20] always wanting meat [19:20] lol [19:20] looks like it was both [19:20] lucky Quiznos. [19:20] keep it [19:20] damn they didn't touch your pickle did they ? [19:20] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest43807 [19:20] lol [19:20] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Nick change: Guest43807 -> slacklad [19:23] gnubien (n=e@251.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] silence... [19:24] Action: Failed|Artist hates silence [19:24] Action: Failed|Artist makes me question life [19:24] ok; adding pkgs [19:24] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [19:24] cool [19:25] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:25] Action: Camarade_Tux farts [19:25] no more silence [19:25] sniffs [19:25] \o/ [19:25] Action: jeev needs to hear another song on the jay z - run this town beat [19:25] that is one of the sickest melodies+beat's [19:25] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest39836 [19:25] jeev: ewww rap [19:25] raphop sucks [19:25] yuck! [19:25] makes me sick [19:25] you guys suck [19:25] i listen to * music but bluegrass [19:26] Action: Failed|Artist plays some kamelot [19:26] uh, by definition I do not. QED [19:26] Nick change: Guest39836 -> slacklad [19:26] what the fuck is kamelot [19:26] and bluegrass easily > rap [19:26] camelot [19:26] jeev: good music ;-) [19:26] sounds gay [19:26] haha eviljames, bite me [19:26] Quiznos: kamelot [19:26] i listen to xfce4 [19:26] that's like saying fedora > slackware [19:26] wubbster: fan boy [19:26] :) [19:26] Camelot, king Arthur's day; the days of President Kennedy [19:27] Failed|Artist, :P [19:27] yep [19:27] kinda like today with bamer in orifice [19:27] wubbster: me too :P [19:27] :D [19:27] but that "glory" is quickly ending [19:27] the glory..... [19:27] like when achiles reached it [19:27] and died [19:27] soon after [19:27] Kamelot have a song called Love You to Death? [19:28] Is it as good as Type O Negative's song of the same name? [19:28] eviljames: hmmmm dunno , but i love karma!!!! [19:28] JESUS WALKS, god show me the way because fedora's trying to break me down. [19:28] according to the video on their website, it is nowhere near as good as Type O [19:28] eviljames: listen to the song karma it's one of the best songs... [19:28] eviljames: i only like older kamelot first albums suck [19:28] too cheesey [19:29] kinda like holloween [19:29] ewwww [19:29] I might go see Stratovarius tonight [19:29] eviljames: oh wow they still play ? [19:29] eviljames: i thought they broke up? [19:30] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:30] apparently! A friend of mine is representing one of the opening bands, so it will be tough to turn down backstage pass and/or meet-n-greet [19:30] eviljames: nice dude [19:30] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-2-2.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:30] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest14098 [19:30] eviljames: you like adagio ? [19:30] adiago is sick [19:31] by yanni [19:31] Nick change: Guest14098 -> slacklad [19:31] Nick change: linuxexpert_ -> amIexpert [19:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBfn4XRJwHY [19:31] youtube is bad [19:31] Failed|Artist: I don't know them offhand, but as far as French metal bands go Gorod is top of the list for me [19:31] eviljames: my friend brought them to the states to play [19:31] good metal [19:31] eviljames: Stratovarius? nice :) [19:32] and now, going to bd :) [19:32] i made this coffee way too strong [19:32] Camarade_Tux: shuddup [19:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] but ima drink it anyways [19:32] Camarade_Tux: you go to bed when i tell you ok ?:P [19:32] Failed|Artist: you'll have to gag me for me to shut up :) [19:32] Camarade_Tux: I'm not into that fetish [19:32] Failed|Artist: ='( [19:32] Camarade_Tux: awww if it makes you happy ok [19:33] so ? [19:33] amIexpert: gtfu [19:33] I'm loving adagio atm! [19:33] eviljames: :) [19:33] Vamphyri.. is there a better tune I should check? [19:33] reading http://noobfarm.org/?id=1723 <- once I made 'make -j' in the kernel sources :) [19:33] eviljames: let me get the name [19:34] eviljames: dominate ! [19:34] eviljames: an awesome brazillian singer in that one [19:34] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [19:34] domination [19:34] Pantera > * [19:34] no dominate [19:34] catwalk (n=walk@adsl-71-134-237-18.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:35] eviljames: yuck [19:35] beck > pantera [19:35] :o [19:35] eviljames: Pantera \o/ [19:35] hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha [19:35] wubbster: :o [19:35] beck is a walking punch line [19:35] beck is a walking badass [19:35] catwalk (n=walk@adsl-71-134-237-18.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [19:35] sonata arctica <3 [19:35] Failed|Artist: begins with an 'S'? :) [19:35] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest55091 [19:35] Camarade_Tux: what ? [19:35] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] Nick change: Guest55091 -> slacklad [19:36] for the brazilinan singer [19:36] (actually the band) [19:36] Camarade_Tux: oh yeah long hair [19:36] Camarade_Tux: selputura ? [19:36] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-156-87.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] selputura or soulfly / [19:36] also, stevie wonder ftw [19:36] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:36] catwalk (n=walk@adsl-71-134-237-18.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] y0 slackers..whuzzup? [19:36] Camarade_Tux: but adabio had a good brazilian singer [19:36] adagio* [19:37] catwalk (n=walk@adsl-71-134-237-18.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [19:37] Failed|Artist: Sepultura for everything Chaos AD and before, eveyrthing from Sep afterwards sucks, and everything by Soulfly sucks. [19:37] Failed|Artist: http://i44.tinypic.com/313tb0x.jpg ? [19:37] speaking of metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D-9X3ooFvo [19:37] yoyo MLanden :) [19:37] Camarade_Tux: no [19:37] eviljames: I think Soulfly is fun [19:37] Camarade_Tux: bigger guy [19:38] long straight hair [19:38] y0 Camarade_Tux...ça va? good? [19:38] dresses like the 80s metal gods [19:38] my love for you is like a truck, BERSERKER [19:38] garme (n=garme@189-93-215-152.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:38] MLanden: yeah, thanks :) [19:38] but going to bed ;) [19:39] Camarade_Tux: room for me ? [19:39] garme (n=garme@189-93-215-152.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: SendQ exceeded [19:39] Camarade_Tux: cool [19:39] Failed|Artist: sure, come over :) [19:39] MLanden: and you? [19:39] Camarade_Tux: \o/ [19:39] eviljames, why dont you like beck? are you a close-minded metalhead? :o [19:40] wubbster: i like some beck and girly pop too :) [19:40] Camarade_Tux: Doin' great for the evenin' [19:40] beck is NOT girly pop :o [19:40] learn your music [19:40] :P [19:40] wubbster: read what i said carefully [19:40] wubbster: i said beck *and* girly pop [19:40] Lots of people out there who say Beck and Bjork are good music [19:40] oh damn [19:40] but they both suck equally [19:41] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:41] wubbster: :) [19:41] Failed|Artist, sorry :P [19:41] I'll say that Beck is girly pop [19:41] wubbster: you are forgiven my son :P [19:41] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:41] eviljames, you just need to be more open minded, listen to some other genres for a change :o [19:41] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest68716 [19:41] the pop i listen to is mostly latin american and european [19:41] eviljames: Céline! :D [19:41] wubbster: Try not to prejudge [19:42] Nick change: Guest68716 -> slacklad [19:42] wubbster: And go listen to the Trio of Doom to hear what I'm into. [19:42] Camarade_Tux: you like alizee ? lol :P [19:42] (eviljames is into bondage) [19:42] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-193-41.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [19:42] Action: amIexpert needs to download and play a IRAQ war game [19:42] Camarade_Tux: i was a big fan of her for some time :P [19:42] Failed|Artist: the pics, yes ; the music, staying away ;) [19:42] eviljames, ooo, havent heard of trio of doom before. i like it :o [19:42] Camarade_Tux: mylene farmer was good too :P [19:43] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:43] wubbster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfFmTefVGg8#t=3m50 [19:43] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:43] Start there, because it's awesome. [19:44] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] eviljames, i guess i have misjudged you... although beck IS amazing :P [19:44] heh [19:44] We don't have to agree on that one, and probably never will. But at least we agree on the Trio of Doom [19:44] :D [19:45] and what huge names in that band. Jaco? SICK. McLaughlin? SICK. Tony Williams? SUPERSICK [19:46] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:46] why must tpb be so slow today? [19:46] eviljames: paco de lucia :) [19:46] wubbster: when Jaco Pastorius talked to Josef Zawinul of Weather Report, he allegedly said: "Your band is pretty good, but it could've been better. I could be in it." [19:46] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest44903 [19:46] wubbster: To which Zawinul said "get the fuck outta my sight." Jaco joined later that day :P [19:46] lol [19:47] Nick change: Guest44903 -> slacklad [19:47] well, night all, have fun and don't forget to use condoms [19:47] Camarade_Tux: make sure to bring them ;) [19:47] Camarade_Tux: night [19:47] Failed|Artist: nah, I'm already bringing the lube -_- [19:47] you fellers need to go outside and get a life [19:47] Camarade_Tux: grrrrr ok [19:47] Talkin' 'bout metal...found an awesome cover of Blue Oyster Cult's Veteran Of The Psychic Wars done by Tarot (finnish metal) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h68ykMB_k-Q [19:47] mingdao, lets have sex [19:48] finnish metal!!!!!!!!! :) [19:48] well nordic metal in general i just love it :) [19:48] . [19:48] get (n=winsucks@unaffiliated/get) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Quiznos: sucks for you beacuse you can't join our convo eh ? :P [19:48] spectre (n=kyle@pool-173-54-180-31.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:48] s'ok [19:48] k [19:49] specing is the Mayor gonna visit Conan Obrien's show? [19:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHBhOWTSF1A&NR=1 [19:49] :D [19:49] spectre is the Mayor gonna visit Conan Obrien's show? [19:49] cheater-conrad (n=root@no-sources/cheater-conrad) joined ##slackware. [19:49] stop spamming [19:49] Guest57052 (n=cal@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:49] hey guys, how do i change the env variable from lilo to grub [19:50] install grub [19:50] wow a questions [19:50] i assume there is one only because make install on my kernel looks for lilo and not grub [19:50] Quiznos: be the hero of the day [19:50] nah [19:50] go go go! [19:50] k [19:50] nursing a buzz [19:50] k [19:50] fire|bird: [19:50] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [19:51] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:51] Quiznos, there is no slackware grub package [19:51] /extra i think [19:51] or on gnu site [19:51] indeed /extra [19:51] k [19:51] there are some file systems that nt supported by lilo and supported in GRUB [19:51] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest75949 [19:51] in grub you can add modules [19:51] compile the grub with modules [19:51] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [19:51] wow the expert has spoken [19:52] Nick change: Guest75949 -> slacklad [19:52] i mean im already using grub [19:52] freakin slackboy [19:52] amIexpert: please, which FS ? [19:52] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] its been in the mbr [19:52] thrice`: zfs [19:52] cheater-conrad then ask about lilo? [19:52] i just want make install on my kernel to not complain about no lilo [19:52] dont use that target [19:52] ok, not fair; which Linux file systems? [19:52] install manwilly [19:52] well the questions have started so i must leave [19:52] gn [19:53] Quiznos: 5pm here [19:53] k [19:53] gotta work on a web design [19:53] later [19:53] bye [19:53] bye thanks [19:53] Failed|Artist (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:54] winstonw (n=user@c-24-245-62-24.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] hey hey hey [19:54] hi [19:55] ho ho ho [19:55] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [19:55] Action: winstonw likes hamburgers moar [19:55] y0 MLanden [19:55] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest63006 [19:55] y0 fire|bird [19:55] haha, slackboy's still having issues. :P [19:55] MLanden: How's it going? [19:56] cheater-conrad: so you want to change "make install" to install to grub rather than lilo? [19:56] Nick change: Guest63006 -> slacklad [19:56] Goin' great thanks,fire|bird...you? [19:56] MLanden: excellent, thanks. [19:56] cool [19:56] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [19:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:58] what music players do you people use? [19:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [19:58] wubbster: the one install in the dashboard [19:59] what? [19:59] xmms [19:59] exaile [20:00] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:00] exaile looks sexy :o [20:00] xmms for audio, mplayer for video [20:00] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest34731 [20:00] audacious is good for audio too [20:00] i started using amarok, and it's pretty good [20:01] wubbster: mplayer from cli [20:01] Nick change: Guest34731 -> slacklad [20:01] wanted to try xfce's parole player but it needs >GTK+2.16...looks good and light,though [20:01] can I use slackpkg to rollback to older versions of a program? [20:01] xmms for audio and smplayer for video :) [20:02] MLanden: parole? I've heard of xfmedia, but not parole. :P [20:02] Action: thrice` uses cmus [20:02] xmms is goot [20:02] Hey neonflux [20:02] i STILL cant get this annoying new linux kernel to work [20:02] yo fire|bird [20:02] fire|bird: just came out recently,listed on their goodies site [20:03] MLanden: thanks, I'll check it out. I just built amarok 2.2.0 today. [20:03] fire|bird: is there a lot of difference betweek 2.1 and 2.2 in amarok? [20:04] I also like pragha for audio [20:04] fire|bird: might need to opt the gtk+2.16 library unless you upgraded slackware gtk+2.14 [20:04] neonflux: good one...I use the older build (consonance) [20:04] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:04] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:05] Action: wubbster is going to try out exaile [20:05] :D [20:05] MLanden: I never used consonance, but I like how pragha is lightweight [20:05] the compgenius999 can't get his kernel working? [20:05] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:05] neonflux: yeah,it truly is [20:05] compgenius999: what doesn't work about it? doesn't make coffee? [20:05] ok real prob here [20:06] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:06] ooo pragha looks nice as well [20:06] cc1plus not found; it is in usr/bin [20:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-3-24.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:06] ./conf cant exec it [20:06] mingdao, yes [20:06] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest7257 [20:06] mp3blaster if you want something for the console - cli [20:06] Action: slackmagic enjoys listening to music through moc/mocp [20:06] i dont have lilo installed at all [20:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-84.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Nick change: Guest7257 -> slacklad [20:07] cheater-conrad: I think the kernel Makefile specifies that and is written for lilo [20:07] Reticenti: Mostly bugfixes, etc, behind the scenes stuff, aside from the photo and video clip applets. [20:07] cheater-conrad: I don't use grub, nor do I use "make install", so I've never bothered to check it out [20:07] mingdao, no im not using slackware sources [20:07] stopit dead ln [20:07] it must be an environment thing or something [20:07] stoopit [20:07] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] cheater-conrad: I don't use Slackware sources for building kernels either [20:08] MLanden: ok, I'll look into it. Thanks. I just looked on xfce.org today, I must have missed that one. [20:08] slackware is more closer to the vanila kernel so mingdao what you told is meaningless [20:08] wtf, http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1723 someone was forkbombing? [20:08] Even I find that in bad taste [20:08] :o [20:09] Action: amIexpert 'forkbombing' ? finally got a keyword to googling [20:09] fire|bird: yeah,I was sortin' through some live and dead rss feeds and added xfce's feeds to liferea and spotted that one..seems sorta like a lightweight totem fro xfce [20:09] s/fro/for [20:09] a friend thought it was cool to show me how to fork bomb, i realize now its kinda lame lol [20:10] bo0 [20:10] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:10] it eats resources :P [20:10] amIexpert: you are not [20:10] cheater-conrad (n=root@no-sources/cheater-conrad) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:10] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest93472 [20:10] noobfarm is superb.. [20:11] Nick change: Guest93472 -> slacklad [20:11] cheater-conrad: from README in the kernel source: Do a "make" to create a compressed kernel image. It is also possible to do "make install" if you have lilo installed to suit the kernel makefiles, but you may want to check your particular lilo setup first. [20:11] eviljames: yeah..always good growing season..:P [20:11] MLanden: nice, I'm definitely checking it out. [20:11] fire|bird: I'm checking out my logs to find your password :P [20:11] lol [20:11] noobfarm #1710 hahahah [20:12] eviljames: hahaha, that was a bad one. :P [20:12] It's not that pass no more though, it's a lot stronger pass too. [20:12] eviljames when was taht? [20:12] damn [20:12] i got log too [20:12] Ahh, it says in my logs your password was iloveeviljames [20:12] ,3 [20:12] fsck <3 i mean [20:13] figabo_ (n=Slacker@189.186.161.203) joined ##slackware. [20:13] MLanden: that looks very interesting. [20:13] eviljames: hahaha, well, sorry, it isn't anymore. :P [20:14] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "yeah, you thought so ..." [20:15] fire|bird: yeah,it is ... but for the newer gtk+ libraries,you might need to opt 'em to avoid conflicts [20:15] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:15] MLanden: It sure has a unique name "Hey, what media player do you use?" "I use Parole" "P [20:15] Kerd (n=no@unaffiliated/kerd) left irc: "Leaving" [20:15] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest91764 [20:15] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] Nick change: Guest91764 -> slacklad [20:16] wb andarius [20:16] thanks :) [20:16] fire|bird: what do you use for notebook? Bail?!?..:P [20:16] hahaha [20:17] MLanden: Well, here I go, gonna try messing with gtk 2.16 heh, my systems sure don't stay clean for long with all the tinkering I do. :P [20:17] likewise [20:18] gtk hits your / [20:18] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [20:18] be sure to build in a chroot [20:18] lol....tinker away,fire|bird....might try liferea's newer build if you go that route [20:18] Failed|Artist (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] MLanden: yeah, probably. :P [20:18] i think i just saw jesus... oh nvm it was my brother [20:19] you just saw that you are jelous not jesus because I'm day by day going to be a expert [20:19] I just noticed that the slackbook logo is a glider [20:19] amIexpert: engrish ? [20:20] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:20] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.104) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] winstonw: \o/ [20:20] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest94270 [20:20] guys meet my friend winstonw , everybody say hi winstonw ! [20:21] Nick change: Guest94270 -> slacklad [20:21] ? [20:22] winstonw: Ahh, you know Failed|Artist, that heaping pile of fail? :P [20:22] fire|bird: sure do lolol [20:22] fire|bird: how rude, say hi first [20:22] hai Failed|Artist how long until you unfail [20:22] Oh, my bad, hello winstonw :P [20:22] :) [20:22] :P hello fire|bird [20:23] winstonw: intill i finish my site [20:23] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [20:23] y0 winstonw [20:24] winstonw: Welcome to ##slackware. Enjoy your stay. [20:24] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:24] now winstonw what do you say ? [20:24] Hello MLanden:) [20:24] oh and thx fire|bird :D [20:24] :) [20:24] winstonw: just had to check if you were real..have some who come in and say "folks,say hi to my friend"...ya know?!? o_O [20:24] deco, wtf? [20:25] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:25] y0 agentc0re [20:25] yo [20:25] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest11411 [20:25] winstonw: You'll notice we rag on Failed|Artist a lot, no harm, he's just a pain in the rear and we kick and slap him now and then. :P [20:25] agentc0re: what ? [20:25] o hai winstonw [20:25] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "crap... again dude?!?!?!" [20:26] Failed|Artist: why are you still pouting around with this nick? [20:26] Nick change: Guest11411 -> slacklad [20:26] hai compgenius999:D [20:26] lol [20:26] agentc0re: oh I'll switch back to deco when i finish my site [20:26] punishment is golden [20:26] thrice`: dang, I haven't even got 4.3.69 built yet, I'm slipping. :P I've been using xfce lately and just haven't got it built. I got the source d/l'd though. [20:26] fire|bird: that's when we are not hating on the bird [20:26] I shouldn't share what I use on X [20:26] It wouldn't be appreciated :P [20:26] actually [20:26] anyone know why my compiled linux kernel fails? [20:26] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] winstonw: shhhhhhh [20:27] I'll share what I use on my ibook [20:27] kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,2) [20:27] I use evilwm [20:27] compgenius999: stop asking, the answer is still because you configured it wrong [20:27] but YOU'LL never know what I use on me desktop lol [20:27] fire|bird: shame! :) [20:27] winstonw: keep it like that son [20:27] fire|bird: 4.3.69? xfce? [20:27] i configured it once, it failed, i did it again, and it still failed [20:27] MLanden: no, kde. :P [20:27] compgenius999: because you configured it wrong and didn't include the right things in order to mount your harddrive. [20:27] thrice`: I know, it's not good. :) [20:27] i did [20:27] fire|bird: ah...ok..:P [20:27] no, you didn't [20:27] i looked through every option and made sure [20:28] i guess i'll try one more time [20:28] winstonw: As long as it's not Windows, somehow, it's alright. :P [20:28] if you DID configure it properly, it would not panic [20:28] fire|bird: I use Gnome on my desktop [20:28] lol [20:28] damn it winstonw [20:28] lol [20:28] lol [20:28] Failed|Artist: lets see if i get a beating lol [20:28] compgenius999: you have a running Slackware system? [20:28] get: wtf sorry [20:28] mingdao: ya, it runs to panic. [20:28] yeah [20:28] winstonw: hahaha [20:28] mingdao: good question [20:29] amazing ... [20:29] i have the old kernel still in my grub [20:29] works fine [20:29] the bird won't do any harm.... [20:29] fire|bird: what an obnoxious name to have, you hiilight it so often on accident [20:29] lol [20:29] time to recompile my kernel for a THIRD time. [20:29] compgenius999: So, obviously, you've borked the other one. [20:29] compgenius999: what fs is your root? what controller is the hard drive with / using? [20:29] winstonw: lol [20:29] I love how yaboot says it blesses the root partition with holy penguin pee (its like lilo for ppc) [20:29] have no idea, i think scsi [20:29] compgenius999: you can compile 100 times ... until you know what to do you won't learn anything [20:29] i included the ext4 stuff [20:30] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:30] so i guess i missed out scsi controllers somewhere [20:30] compgenius999: you have SCSI hard drives? [20:30] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72825.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] fire|bird: did you run into any trouble with taglib 1.6 when you huilt amarok 2.2? [20:30] wait... you have no IDEA? but you claim that you know you for certain included the correct options in the kernel for your hardware? [20:30] i think so [20:30] y0 slackytude [20:30] \s/huilt/built [20:30] greetings [20:30] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest84595 [20:30] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:30] Action: slackytude is drunk [20:30] compgenius999: what is this computer of yours? [20:30] wait, its either sata or scsi [20:30] what's with the bot? [20:30] damn you chopp [20:30] y0 fire|bird [20:30] Reticenti: yeah, taglib and taglib-extras need updating. [20:30] slackytude: how goes? [20:31] Nick change: Guest84595 -> slacklad [20:31] the computer is a computer i built [20:31] Action: Failed|Artist jumps over fire|bird [20:31] Oh ya, i remember this computer... you got noobfarmed for it. [20:31] compgenius999: and you don't know if the drives are SATA or SCSI? [20:31] nope [20:31] fire|bird, great. just been out, drinking with me mats. uni is starrting soon [20:31] 6502 sbc with usb [20:31] i just plugged it in, and it worked. [20:31] or 65816 [20:31] fire|bird, so we had to meet [20:31] compgenius999: like a mac ? [20:31] i'll check dmesg [20:31] lol [20:31] fire|bird, how are you<ß [20:32] agentc0re: Maybe he's not even using a computer. :P [20:32] slackytude: great, thanks. :) [20:32] fire|bird: ah, it needs extras too, thanks [20:32] bbiab [20:32] lol,Failed|Artist [20:32] MLanden: :P [20:33] i wish life was like that [20:33] you just plug it in and it works [20:33] fire|bird: it's using him. [20:33] look what life did to me ? [20:33] just look at me damn it ! [20:33] dmesg says my harddrive is ata [20:34] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [20:34] compgenius999: issue "df -h" and tell me what / is on [20:35] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:35] i know what its on [20:35] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest24647 [20:35] /dev/hdb3 [20:35] i found the trouble. [20:35] okay, so you have PATA drives, not SATA or SCSI [20:35] atapi was unticked [20:36] in menuconfig [20:36] Nick change: Guest24647 -> slacklad [20:36] compgenius999: yes ... the trouble is PEBKAC [20:36] great i have to recompile again [20:36] i think i'm gonna do the DrewCarey beer and coffee mix; what did they call it? [20:36] Quiznos: diarrhea ? [20:36] ``get drunk, stay up all night and do it all over again'' [20:36] heh [20:37] no not that [20:37] k [20:37] buzz beer [20:37] yea thats it [20:37] that's the next tv series i google to watch [20:38] coffee and beer together 'gain...&_& [20:38] Failed|Artist: real men run a real unix on their mac [20:38] i cant compile ffox yet [20:38] c++ is dead with ln [20:39] k, recompiling [20:39] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [20:39] what's the package name for g++? [20:39] nm [20:40] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:40] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest98518 [20:40] it's good to have the slack tree local [20:40] real men don't use firefox, they use wget and view the website in a pager [20:40] :P [20:40] i wanna see pictors [20:40] i wanna read rss [20:40] lolol [20:40] i wanna get me email [20:41] yeah I use firefox [20:41] Nick change: Guest98518 -> slacklad [20:41] lol [20:41] there goes the get hilight again [20:41] I use evolution for teh emailz [20:41] IMO RSS is a commitment you have to want to do every day or two [20:41] OH COME ON, 3rd time recompiling with all the ata drivers, and moving to /boot, STILL FAILS [20:41] otherwise yo uget behind [20:41] yep [20:41] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:42] tell me about it [20:42] Quiznos: what rss reader do you use? [20:42] Failed|Artist: :D [20:42] compgenius999 keep tryin; dont give up. it's all fer learnin [20:42] winstonw opera when it works [20:42] i know [20:42] k [20:42] Quiznos: when does it not work? [20:42] right now [20:42] it's kinda bugged for me now [20:42] winstonw: hmmmm ub.....u oh must be the lack of sleep sorry [20:42] When I read rss i used tt-rss and/or snownews [20:42] k [20:42] Failed|Artist: how tired? [20:43] winstonw: hmmm enough to earn this nick [20:43] lolol [20:43] go get some sleep [20:43] hey get [20:43] Quiznos: get my friend a 5 footer ok [20:43] i will hilight you pretty often fyi [20:43] kool [20:43] come get it [20:44] winstonw: go go go [20:44] Failed|Artist: lolwut that sounds funneh [20:44] winstonw: :P [20:44] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [20:44] Action: winstonw is using emacs for irc [20:44] i like the new version with gtk [20:45] we hates them evil emacs users [20:45] it doesn't look butt ugly compared to the rest of my apps now [20:45] lol [20:45] well [20:45] I use mg sometimes [20:45] or nano [20:45] hell I even use vim when i get bored [20:45] hai get [20:45] good [20:45] Action: winstonw is going to get get's nick and get hilighted a lot [20:45] I must be borded a lot then [20:45] bored* [20:45] lol [20:45] Action: winstonw huggles get [20:46] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:46] is ge a bot? [20:46] yup it's the one i told you about [20:46] lawl [20:46] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest46917 [20:46] it's unleashed [20:46] get are you a sexy bot? [20:47] you mean fire|bird ? sure [20:47] Nick change: Guest46917 -> slacklad [20:47] lol [20:47] fire|bird: is sexy? [20:47] anyone here play quakelive? [20:47] oh bright red dress [20:47] makes anyone jump [20:47] lol [20:47] agentc0re: hahaha. I think it is. [20:48] Failed|Artist: wtf? :P [20:48] fire|bird: sure deny it right now :P [20:48] Action: winstonw was pissing people off by using quad damage w/ scout perk to do speedy flag captures in ctf [20:48] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:48] Action: fire|bird kicks Failed|Artist into the bucket-o-fail [20:48] via rocket jump! [20:48] Action: winstonw deuces in Failed|Artist's bucket [20:49] lol [20:49] lol [20:49] sorry i thought that was a toilet [20:49] lol [20:49] dude ewwwwwwww [20:49] damn it , now i have to take another shower [20:49] Action: Failed|Artist fire|bird pisses over winstonw's head [20:49] Failed|Artist: nice hat....wait?!?....ewww..X_X [20:50] MLanden: tastes like chocolate [20:50] haha [20:50] smells like fail [20:50] Failed|Artist: TMI.....lol [20:50] MLanden: ++++ [20:51] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:51] capone: can you bring the mofia here ? [20:51] Will slackboy ever be the same? :P [20:51] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest35539 [20:51] slackytude: is depressed got rejected [20:51] i mean slackboy* [20:51] oooooooops [20:51] sorry slackytude [20:51] big time fail lol [20:52] Action: Failed|Artist feels bad now [20:52] great, now you pinged the guy that's drunk. [20:52] Nick change: Guest35539 -> slacklad [20:52] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [20:52] Beaming out... into other worlds... beaming out... beaming out.... [20:52] fire|bird: today i saw the light and ran away from it [20:53] Failed|Artist: DUDE, that was a flashlight. [20:53] fire|bird: oh lol [20:53] oooooops [20:53] Failed|Artist: but, I swear, it was ALL winstonw's idea. [20:54] winstonw: damn it , you know I'm vulnerable right now [20:54] Action: MLanden sees fire|bird chase Failed|Artist around the channel like a ATV after a deer [20:54] haha [20:54] lol [20:55] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [20:55] MLanden: only difference is Failed|Artist is more likely to run himself into a tree. :P [20:55] fire|bird: can you let me ride you ? [20:55] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:55] homo... [20:55] i wanna see jesus [20:55] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest63990 [20:55] fire|bird: flame on..:P [20:55] fire|bird is a femmie? [20:55] superGear: yeawh [20:55] superGear: cute one too [20:56] OH you'll see him alright, after I hit ya over the head. :P [20:56] Nick change: Guest63990 -> slacklad [20:56] fire|bird: no i'll see the devil like that :( [20:56] why the :( [20:56] superGear: i wanna meet jesus [20:56] devil maybe the good guy [20:56] superGear: yeah but he doesn't have a cool beard like jesus [20:57] Failed|Artist: You'll see both, Jesus will say, come with me child, and the devil will say "off with his head" [20:57] Failed|Artist: well go find some hispanics one maybe named Jesus [20:57] lol [20:57] fire|bird: ..... [20:57] superGear: Or as they pronounce it, HeyZus. :P [20:57] no that's [20:57] hesus [20:57] fire|bird: you fail so bad [20:58] you know what I mean [20:58] jesus is how it is spelled [20:58] fire|bird: shuddap [20:58] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] superGear: I know [20:58] superGear: how old are you ? [20:58] old [20:58] superGear: how old ? [20:58] holder than Jesus [20:58] Failed|Artist: Why do you need to know [20:58] older* [20:58] yht (n=yht@125.161.70.36) joined ##slackware. [20:58] lol,fire|bird [20:58] superGear: well..... mature ? [20:59] A/S/L ?!?!?! [20:59] fire|bird: jealous ? [20:59] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:59] fire|bird: it's not like I'm cheating on you [20:59] I kid around i guess it makes me immature [20:59] MLanden: dear lord, will it ever stop? :P [20:59] i guess old folks gotta be old stiffs [20:59] you guys couldn't kind the #kiddies channel? [20:59] fire|bird: when i finish my site [21:00] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:00] fire|bird: dunno [21:00] Action: fire|bird walks away from this crap. :/ [21:00] kind ppl's channel [21:00] Action: Failed|Artist fire|bird trips over crap [21:00] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest41566 [21:00] Failed|Artist: you're kidding around you must be immature ;P [21:01] di love it when sitcoms show their bloopers at the end of a episode [21:01] Nick change: Guest41566 -> slacklad [21:01] MLanden: heh, along with gtk, glib update is also needed. [21:01] di/I [21:01] Quiznos: yeah it's always fun to watch [21:01] superGear: no .... well.. I'm special you know.. [21:01] yep [21:01] you know what guys [21:01] I'm not comming back till i finish my site [21:01] fire|bird: I'm having trouble builing amarok 2.2, I iinstalled taglibs 2.6, but when I cmake, it still sees version 1.5 [21:01] might be days or weeks [21:01] promises, promises [21:01] one said "you gotta let is know; this is make believe, we doing make believe" [21:02] is/us [21:02] s/2.6/1.6 [21:02] fire|bird: right...hence,why it's wiser to chroot it than opt it to avoid conflict [21:02] hi ret [21:02] hey Quiznos [21:02] bye guys [21:02] Failed|Artist: see you in 2013 [21:02] gn [21:02] see ya fire|bird and Quiznos [21:02] in days or weeks [21:02] years* [21:02] don't come back no, ya hear. [21:02] now* [21:02] and to end this [21:02] y'al come back now, hee-ah [21:02] praise the lord ! \o/ [21:03] see ya , don't miss me ok ? [21:03] o_ [21:03] fail [21:03] MLanden: If this would have been there before I did the clean install, I had gsb installed and therefore had these updates. :P [21:03] Action: Failed|Artist sheds a tear [21:03] Failed|Artist (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:03] fire|bird: did you have any trouble with taglib? [21:03] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:04] o-<-< [21:04] Reticenti: no [21:04] right,fire|bird [21:04] hmm [21:05] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:05] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest73358 [21:06] Nick change: Guest73358 -> slacklad [21:06] blackula (i=1000@97.81.73.186) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:07] anyone use ScrotWM? i just built it, works great! i like it [21:07] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] hello everyone [21:07] hey mfillpot [21:07] looks great,Pig_Pen [21:08] hi m [21:08] Pig_Pen what are its features? [21:08] y0 mfillpot [21:08] screenshot or it didn't happen [21:08] coffee's ready [21:08] i seen it at freshmeat, if you get it go in to the linux subdir and run make [21:08] well that's no fun [21:08] Quiznos: look for yourself http://www.scrotwm.org/ [21:08] has a clock on a top bar, multiple virtual desktops [21:09] hey guys I got a memorex flash drive that registers both /dev/sdc and /dev/sr0, how would I go about removing the sr0 image from the flash drive? [21:09] lnux is confused [21:09] linux [21:09] haha, iirc Urchlay has one that does that too, not sure if it's memorex though. [21:09] mfillpot: are you sure? /dev/sr0 should be your dvd/cd-rom [21:09] plug it in, wait 5 seconds, and pastebin 'dmesg | tail' [21:10] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:10] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [21:10] thrice`: it seems to have a sector in the drive that is imaged as a cd image, however it is not visible when I fdisk the drive [21:10] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest13966 [21:10] some flash drives that come with preinstalled spoftware have a CDtyp RO partition [21:10] pardon the typing errors [21:11] Nick change: Guest13966 -> slacklad [21:11] NyteOwl: they are pardoned. :) [21:11] oh, my fault. never heard of such a monster :( [21:11] thrice`: http://pastebin.com/d35756a41 [21:11] switch to a new desktop with alt F1 or F2 or F3 (i guess up to 9) and alt arrow left & right will switch between opened applications, seems pretty good [21:11] ooo a Plan9 style WM :) [21:11] this jsut drives me crazy have locked space and I want it removed [21:12] forget the F1 F2 F3, just the number, alt 1 alt 2 alt 3 [21:12] mfillpot: it may not be removeable if it's hardware based [21:12] mfillpot: the sr0 is a fake cd-rom, right? From what I've been told, you have to plug it into a windows box, it either can't be done from linux, or else nobody knows how [21:12] mfillpot: those devices are written with special apps. they are thereby only removed with special apps [21:12] u3 software [21:12] a raw dd can get some, but not all of them [21:12] mfillpot: you probably can do some hackery with udev and/or HAL to at least make it ignore the fake cd-rom device [21:13] if it's a U3 drive that type of removaal may indeed be an option. you'll ned a Win machien though [21:13] my attempt at dd only grabbed the vfat partition it couldn't touch the trash space [21:13] yeah i had to remove some of that crap on my sandisk cruzer with their special uninstaller if i remember correctly [21:13] trouble with some of 'em is the the MBR gets buried in that sector with the u3 on it [21:13] up to alt 0 (1o) [21:13] I don't want to ignore the data I just want to remove it [21:14] NyteOwl: is there a specific app that can clean it? [21:14] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "if you dont like what they make, buy something else..." [21:14] mfillpot: check the U3 website. There used to be an uninstaller available for download [21:14] actually, if the fake cd-rom area were writable, it might even be useful (play games from a backup and leave the real CD in its case) [21:15] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:15] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest69848 [21:15] wonder if it can hold a raw CD image including data + audio tracks, or just an iso full of data... [21:15] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.10.23.50) joined ##slackware. [21:15] damn, to 10mm or not to 10mm :/ [21:16] Nick change: Guest69848 -> slacklad [21:16] but with u3,isn't the compression and decompression done by software over filesystem? [21:16] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.10.23.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:18] I found the software and am going to windows now to wipe it, I will report the outcome [21:18] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:18] good luck,mfillpot [21:18] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [21:19] . [21:19] y0 twinreverb [21:19] .. [21:19] hi [21:19] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:20] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest8178 [21:21] Nick change: Guest8178 -> slacklad [21:21] are there packages other than binutils, gcc, glibc, and linux headers that affect the portability of code? [21:22] Nick change: Guest65668 -> pragma_ [21:23] archiebenedict, it depends on the program and how it is written [21:25] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:25] archiebenedict: there was a thread in LQ by woodsman about that ... iirc the only reliabe solution was the Windows software [21:25] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest42374 [21:25] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] Nick change: Guest42374 -> slacklad [21:26] sorry ... not archiebenedict ... mfillpot [21:26] ok thanks [21:26] mfillpot: there was a thread in LQ by woodsman about that ... iirc the only reliabe solution was the Windows software [21:27] the eindow software worked [21:27] archiebenedict: cross-compiling? [21:27] archiebenedict: if the code's unportable to begin with, eh, you can't really fix it without changing the code [21:27] but it is still reporting less memory than the flash drive should have [21:27] mfillpot: I'd dd the thing with /dev/zero now [21:28] mfillpot, U3 ? [21:28] mingdao: shoudld it be dd if=/dev/zero if=/dev/sdc, or do I need additional arguments to define size? [21:28] e.g. "typedef unsigned long int uint32", then expecting a uint32 to be exactly 32 bits, will fail if you compile it on x86_64 where a long int is 64 bits [21:28] TwinReverb: yes it was U3, it has been removed [21:28] if you don't specify how much zeros it just keeps going until it's out of space [21:29] mfillpot: what you probably see is the uncompressed data which the sotware decompresses [21:29] in my experience U3 must be removed from windows using their tool [21:29] that is what I wan then [21:29] iirc i tried zeroizing and i didn't lose the U3 [21:29] U3 isn't bad (you can throw firefox and open office on it iirc) [21:29] but it's not linux compatible so yeah it sucks [21:30] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:30] eh, what's the U3 software doing? same as drivespace/doublespace? [21:30] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest54652 [21:30] TwinReverb: this drive is intended only to transfer scans from a copier/scanner to a windows comp, that software interferes with it's functionality so it needed to be removed [21:30] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [21:31] Nick change: Guest54652 -> slacklad [21:31] mfillpot, just be sure to get the software from them for restoring the U3 in case you ever want it back [21:31] mfillpot: after removing U3, I would use cfdisk to make one partition (more if desired) [21:31] TwinReverb: I never want it back, all a drive should be for is holding files and that is what is being done [21:31] mingdao: I prefer fdisk [21:32] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [21:32] then use fdisk (no one's saying you can't use fdisk) [21:32] fdisk is great [21:32] how does one extract the linux headers from the kernel source? [21:32] i rather use it over other more complicated tools unless moving partitions [21:32] kamaji (n=kamaji@94-169-106-21.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [21:33] archiebenedict, if you look in source on the slackware install media you can probably see how if you read the slackbuild [21:33] I only really needed help figuring out how to remove the crap partition after that the rest of the process will be cake [21:33] chocolate cake? 8-) [21:33] oh yeah duh, i keep forgetting [21:33] mfillpot: dcfldd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc conv=notrunc [21:33] mindbndr: nothing wrong with fdisk if you prefer it [21:35] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:35] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest31000 [21:35] brb [21:36] archiebenedict: the linux headers are in /usr/src/linux/include/linux, generally /usr/include/linux is a copy of that (for the specific kernel version that glibc was compiled for, which may be different from the running kernel) [21:36] Nick change: Guest31000 -> slacklad [21:36] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:36] khider (n=khider@69.172.112.208) joined ##slackware. [21:36] long ago it used to be SOP to make /usr/include/linux a symlink to /usr/src/linux/include/linux, but that's considered a Bad Idea these days [21:38] Hello All, I am thinking of installing Slackware on my laptop but am worried about the wireless card which is a Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) Does Slackware have issues with installation of wireless card drivers? [21:38] khider: Slackware uses a vanilla kernel from kernel.org [21:39] khider: it won't be supported by default, but it's very simple to add afterwards [21:39] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:39] thrice`: Even for a new laptop? I understand broadcom is among the trickier to install [21:40] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:40] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=b43&sv=13.0 [21:40] is your card not covered by the typical b43-firmware ? [21:40] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest70790 [21:41] Nick change: Guest70790 -> slacklad [21:41] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] 14e4:4312 [21:41] not supported - ID is duplicated [21:41] BCM4312 802.11b/g [21:41] not supported [21:42] woah, bad paste - sorry [21:42] thrice`: I am having issues with it on another distribution--but it is acknowledged that there are gaps in the development of wireless drivers [21:42] I take that back - b43 will not cover your card [21:42] thrice`: Including mine [21:42] thrice`: Good to know. : - ) [21:43] anyone know a way to masively rename files to remove spaces from the filename only? [21:43] thrice`: Perhaps I should approach broadcom? [21:45] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:45] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest24622 [21:46] Nick change: Guest24622 -> slacklad [21:46] Urchlay: thank you [21:48] mrselfpwn, incoming message [21:48] k [21:48] mrselfpwn: if they [21:48] 're all in the current directory: [21:48] rename ' ' '' * <--- keep repeating that command, each time gets rid of only one space per filename [21:50] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:50] comhack (n=comhack@unaffiliated/comhack) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.1-dev" [21:50] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest66183 [21:50] note that Thunar has a mass rename capability [21:50] to include regexp if you wish [21:50] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] Nick change: Guest66183 -> slacklad [21:51] does the trivial revision number matter much? ie using 2.6.29 instead of 2.6.29.6? [21:51] has anyone played with barrelfish to see if it has any real merits? [21:51] archiebenedict, what do you mean? [21:51] mrselfpwn: you could also do something like... [21:51] http://spikedmath.net/comics/029-new-bike.png [21:51] find . -type f -a -name '* *' | while read file; do mv "$file" `echo "$file" | tr -d ' '`; done [21:51] archiebenedict, they're different, the headers they create are probably different [21:51] thanks for all the suggestions [21:51] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [21:51] with kernel headers affecting binary compatibility [21:52] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-124-230.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:52] Urchlay: interesting [21:52] comhack (n=comhack@unaffiliated/comhack) joined ##slackware. [21:52] i should lrn 2 bash-fu like that [21:53] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-112-177.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] for i in whatever; do mv "$i" ${i// /} ; done [21:53] archiebenedict: ideally, user programs don't include kernel headers at all (unless they're kernel-specific stuff like the userspace iptables command) [21:53] removes all spaces [21:54] TwinReverb: I think my brain's quota for punctuation has been exceeded, I can never remember the bash syntax for stuff like that... [21:54] substitute * for whatever, etc [21:54] too many years of perl [21:54] Urchlay, i put it in ~/whitespace.sh [21:54] sometimes it's best to throw stuff you learn into a shell script somewhere [21:55] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [21:55] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [21:55] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest95731 [21:55] I wrote a sanerename.pl script that replaces spaces with _ (collapsing multiple spaces into one _), gets rid of ' characters, lowercases everything, and some other useful stuff [21:55] khider (n=khider@69.172.112.208) left irc: Client Quit [21:55] I need to expand it to remove common prefixes [21:56] Nick change: Guest95731 -> slacklad [21:56] hmm [21:56] lol, how long has slackboy been doing this? [21:56] just watch out because the mv command will sometimes overwrite stuff [21:56] I really don't need a directory called "Doctor Who - Season 27" full of files whose names all begin with "Doctor Who - Season 27 Episode $whatever" [21:56] agentc0re: it has been going on for a while [21:56] agentc0re: since the netsplit earlier. [21:58] MLanden: Well, I got parole to work with the gtk slack has (I think) but I hit another snag. Any idea what provides/has to do with, gmarshal.lo? [21:58] i think he should be banned for excessive nick changes and not knowing how to correctly auth with nickserv. :P [21:58] lol [21:58] violating the slackware channel rules! [21:58] agentc0re: He's probably not authorized to kick himself. :P [21:58] TwinReverb: okay, i will thx. [21:58] fire|bird: lol! [21:59] parole? [21:59] fire|bird: gmarshal.lo? [21:59] would be entertaining to see though. [21:59] Urchlay: an xfce media player app [21:59] $ grep gmarshal /var/adm/packages/* [21:59] /var/adm/packages/glib2-2.18.4-x86_64-1:usr/include/glib-2.0/gobject/gmarshal.h [21:59] that's the only result I get on my 13.0 box [22:00] MLanden: make[3]: *** No rule to make target `gmarshal.lo', needed by `libparole.la'. Stop. [22:00] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:00] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest89035 [22:00] hm. That sounds like something that gets built as part of the program you're building, not something system-wide... [22:01] Nick change: Guest89035 -> slacklad [22:01] mrselfpwn, no problem, i'm just paying it forward 8-) [22:01] fire|bird: must be a dev file with >gtk+16 [22:01] comhack (n=comhack@unaffiliated/comhack) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.1-dev" [22:01] maybe it couldn't find the header file? [22:01] MLanden: yeah, could be, I edited the file to accept a minimum version of gtk 2.14. :P I thought it'd be worth a try. :P [22:03] MLanden: I had tried googling for that file, and it appeared to maybe have something to do with dbus [22:03] fire|bird: when you said gmarshal..was thinking Penny's dad...:P [22:03] haha [22:03] I grepped the source of parole, and it didn't find any references to gmarshal.lo [22:04] thanks rename ' ' '' * worked well for my simple purpose though TwinReverb's scripts will come in nicely later when I need more detail. [22:04] TwinReverb: :) [22:04] you're welcome [22:04] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:04] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [22:04] fire|bird: it's based of gstreamer.. wonder if you need a newer version of those packages? [22:04] fire|bird: eh, probably won't work, but try "touch gmarshal.lo" in whatever dir it wants it to be in :) [22:05] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:05] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest87455 [22:05] agentc0re: slack's gstreamer is already above what it needs, it looks for .10.11, I have .10.23 [22:05] Urchlay: How can I tell where it's trying to see that file? [22:06] ah [22:06] Nick change: Guest87455 -> slacklad [22:06] whatever dir it was in (follow the trail of "make: leaving directory ..." [22:06] Urchlay: ah, nvm, I think I got it. [22:06] where it looks anyway [22:07] does anyone know of a good 3d rpg for linux? [22:07] woo [22:07] Reticenti: Personally I just play WoW in wine [22:07] winstonw: but then I gotta pay for it :P [22:07] yeah [22:07] I severely doubt that touching the file will actually make the build succeed, but every once in a while the dumb solution works [22:07] its not that affordable [22:08] RUNESCAPE [22:08] lol [22:08] YEAH [22:08] too bad it steals alsa [22:08] Urchlay: Well, nice suggestion, but no dice. [22:08] Reticenti: have you ever heard of PlaneShift? [22:08] Reticenti: try this site..http://happypenguin.org/ seems to be some good ones listed [22:08] i only got mixing with java working well with oss4 [22:08] thanks MLanden [22:08] Reticenti: it's a free mmo and the engine is opensource [22:09] what the heck is "parole" anyway? searching for it on google shows a bunch of links to prisons and stuff [22:09] hahaha [22:09] Urchlay: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/parole [22:09] www.planeshift.it [22:09] http://4walled.org/src/1251392867914.jpg [22:10] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:10] fire|bird: i am checking it out now, running autogen.sh now. [22:10] agentc0re: ok, thanks. :) [22:10] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest57524 [22:10] mrselfpwn: i've breifly heard of it, is it any good? [22:11] Nick change: Guest57524 -> slacklad [22:11] fire|bird: how did you tell it to shutup about the gtk version? [22:11] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] planeshift can be promising [22:11] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] manaworld [22:11] that is iffy [22:12] cant find the hardware reqs for it though... [22:12] anyone notice a lot of viruses floating around lately? (windows virusus) [22:12] agentc0re: I edited configure.ac.in and changed 2.16.0 to 2.14.0 and glib to 2.18.0 [22:12] Reticenti: honestly i'm in the same boat you are and was looking around. i'm probably gonna try it out soon. [22:12] ah nvm found them [22:13] reqs aren't much [22:13] mrselfpwn: I was thinking of trying to get deus ex to work, it's platinum in wine [22:13] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [22:13] text encodings piss me off SO MUCH it is unbelievable [22:13] which ones? [22:13] Everything that isn't utf. [22:13] ah [22:14] figabo_ (n=Slacker@189.186.161.203) left irc: Client Quit [22:14] utf7 is nice [22:14] My files are a mess [22:14] how? [22:14] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [22:14] Some are UTF-8 some are ISO-8859-1 some are something else which i can't figure out. [22:14] utf8 has everything else [22:14] use recode to fix [22:15] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.161.203) joined ##slackware. [22:15] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [22:15] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:15] I have a lot of music that looks like "Am?¤²¾lie" [22:15] whats your locale? [22:15] when yo uls those? [22:15] you ls [22:15] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest60701 [22:15] Reticenti: haven't tried it. i'll have to check it out. [22:16] en_US, but en_US.utf8 doesn't help if the terminal doesn't support it properly. [22:16] Nick change: Guest60701 -> slacklad [22:16] mrselfpwn: yeah, i'm looking at it, we'll probably have to compile it though [22:16] which term in use? [22:16] Reticenti: i tried second life once and wasn't a big fan. [22:16] ah [22:16] rxvt is nice [22:16] xfce4terminal at the moment [22:16] Action: winstonw uses xterm and gnome-terminal [22:16] try rvxt [22:16] rxvt needs tabbing [22:16] rxvt [22:16] nah [22:16] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [22:16] mrxvt has tabbing [22:16] Reticenti: are you looking at deus ex 3? [22:16] try it [22:16] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] ik its a good program [22:16] but [22:17] try control+rightclick [22:17] mrselfpwn: oh no, i [22:17] and figure out how to get out of that menui [22:17] m looking at planescape [22:17] lol [22:17] planeshift. oh i see [22:17] fire|bird: do you have all the packages listed in the readme? [22:17] oh nvm [22:17] you are looking at planeshift and runescape from the sound of it. lol [22:17] its control+ middleclick [22:18] does mrxvt do unicode? [22:18] I checked out runescape but couldn't get it to run right in full screen mode. [22:18] dunno [22:18] mrselfpwn: yeah, w/e :P [22:18] duno exactly [22:18] uxterm does :D [22:18] fire|bird: hey, it compiled OK for me [22:18] hiptobecubic try it [22:18] hiptobecubic you lose nothing from trying [22:18] anybody who's messed with the wiimote..came across http://trackballs.sourceforge.net/download.shtml might be a nice addition [22:18] Wikipedia says it does not. [22:18] Eioo (n=Eioo@83-44-39.netrun.cytanet.com.cy) joined ##slackware. [22:19] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [22:19] mrselfpwn: you think this installer would work on slackware? http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=19389.0 [22:19] hiptobecubic: mrxvt==no,theres a patch for utf-8 but is broken afaik [22:19] agentc0re: Hmm, it seems I don't have gio. [22:19] Urchlay: really? [22:19] MLanden: hey, that looks kinda neat [22:19] urxvt ++10 [22:19] Reticenti: yes [22:19] Urchlay: do you have gio? [22:20] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:20] fire|bird: yah, really. On slackware64 13.0. I have no idea what gio is :) [22:20] gio is a gnome library [22:20] gio as in the gtk stuff? [22:20] bash insert_bin_filename_here.bin [22:20] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest47297 [22:20] AFAIK I have no gnome libraries at all on here [22:20] Urchlay: easy build on slackware 13...quite fun as well [22:20] mancha: probably [22:20] lol, i can't even make it past the ./configure even though i make those changes you said fire|bird [22:20] lol [22:21] Nick change: Guest47297 -> slacklad [22:21] agentc0re: change it in configure.ac.in, not configure.ac, then run ./autogen.sh [22:21] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] Reticenti: you could probably even take the slackbuild for virtualbox and mod it so you have a planeshift slackbuild. [22:21] Urchlay: ah. [22:21] because virtualbox is a bin file as well. [22:21] fire|bird: this is a snapshot I'm building, latest git code [22:22] I haven't tried to *run* it, just verified it compiles :) [22:23] agentc0re do you have configure,in? [22:23] Urchlay: yeah, latest git here too. [22:23] git out [22:23] you're on slack64 same as me, right? [22:23] mancha: haha [22:24] what cool bleeding edge are you all building? [22:24] Urchlay autoreconf [22:24] Urchlay: I was trying on 32bit, but I'm going to try it on the laptop beings it build for you on 64bit. [22:25] Quiznos: ./autogen.sh is the standard way to run it, if it exists... [22:25] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:25] yea [22:25] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest67509 [22:25] mancha: We're building parole, a media app that's part of xfce goodies. [22:25] slackboy must be pissed tryin to login [22:26] Nick change: Guest67509 -> slacklad [22:26] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:26] soo, nobody notices a lot of windows viruses lately, i probably delete a dozen copies a day from my email quarentine folder thing [22:26] well it compiled fine for me too fire|bird. [22:26] ARGH [22:26] but i am on 32bit. [22:26] mrselfpwn: hmmmmm interesting [22:26] i dont do winders [22:26] agentc0re: thanks :) [22:27] Thanks as well Urchlay [22:27] i dont do windows either, but i still delete a lot of viruses out of my ISP's email [22:27] ok, I did "make distclean" and tried to compile it again, I get the same error you get about gmarshal.lo [22:27] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:27] haha [22:27] wht's the error? [22:27] make[3]: *** No rule to make target `gmarshal.lo', needed by `libparole.la'. Stop. [22:27] wouldnt that be a libtool target? [22:27] We haz no marshal to control the parole [22:28] pissed Gary off...unleashes Squiggy....:P [22:28] gary who? [22:28] are you building San-Quentin v2.0? [22:28] squiggy i know [22:28] Marshall...:P [22:28] oh! [22:28] right [22:28] lol [22:28] mancha: nah, latest git of it. 2.5.90 ;) [22:29] of 2.5.90 what? [22:29] San-Quentin ;) [22:29] cause i recommend sing-sing 1.0rc5 [22:29] haha [22:29] one difference I notice: the first time I ran ./autogen.sh, which ran ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode for me. The 2nd time, I just ran ./configure [22:29] is there a config.cache? [22:29] Hmm [22:29] or -C otherwise? [22:30] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:30] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest23257 [22:30] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [22:31] Nick change: Guest23257 -> slacklad [22:31] slackboy is in an infinite loop of identity crisis. [22:32] poor slackboy...:C [22:32] Urchlay: alright, I passed --enable-maintainer-mode to the slackbuild and I think it's going to build. [22:32] oh, there's a slackbuild? :) [22:32] MLanden: The netsplit just didn't agree with him. [22:32] Urchlay: the one I made. :P [22:32] fire|bird: lol [22:32] yup, it built. [22:33] I just tried to run mine, it segfaults after spewing a bunch of Gtk-CRITICAL warnings [22:33] including one that says: required gtk+ version 2.16, current version is 2.14 [22:33] probably because there's no gio. [22:33] maybe? [22:33] bah, segfault [22:33] dunno [22:34] ok my brilliant plan to take over slak pkg tools is failing [22:34] If I installed gsb again, then I'd have these updates, but, is it worth it? :P [22:34] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [22:34] takeover/subsume/g [22:34] Quiznos: good, there shouldn't be a take over. [22:34] eh [22:34] is gio something that's included in gtk+-2.16 but not gtk+-2.14, maybe? [22:34] i got that running autogen.sh,the gtk version warning [22:34] i'm tryin for a bigger picture here tho [22:34] Urchlay: I have no idea. [22:34] big diffs between the two gtk+ [22:34] MLanden: yeah [22:34] I just thought I'd try. :P [22:34] yall are building what now? [22:35] well i can tell you what just got rm -rf'd [22:35] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:35] <_guitarman_> hey - i'm new to slackware64 13.0 - are there any special considerations i need to keep in mind if i want to compile the a kernel from source with the realtime patches for multimedia work? [22:35] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72825.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:35] MLanden: I hate that... they shoulda called it 3.0 instead, if it's all that different [22:35] gio=gnome input/output probly.gvfs is gnome virtual file system [22:35] agentc0re: hahahaha [22:35] Rat409: Oh yeah, I should have remembered that. [22:35] <_guitarman_> hey fire|bird [22:35] _guitarman_ not really i think [22:35] Rat409: thanks [22:35] least you tried,fire|bird [22:35] hey _guitarman_ [22:35] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest730 [22:35] MLanden use a spacebar [22:35] <_guitarman_> thx Quiznos [22:35] yw [22:35] Quiznos: you're not perfect, leave MLanden alone. [22:35] _guitarman_ try with 1000 hz clock [22:36] Nick change: Guest730 -> slacklad [22:36] fire|bird atleast i put my nicks first and a space after comma [22:36] :) [22:36] <_guitarman_> Quiznos: instead of all those crazy patches, just go pre-emptive and the 1000hz clock [22:36] <_guitarman_> what about tickless [22:36] Quiznos: maybe, but even with MLanden not using the spacebar at times, we can still read/understand what he's saying. [22:36] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] _guitarman_ yea; chk the task queuing too [22:36] fire|bird pff [22:36] fire|bird: ya, be hez so leet and spellz uber coul! [22:36] lol....like watchin' the planes crash for not using proper punctuation...old typing tutor...:D [22:36] hahaha [22:36] _guitarman_ i just pick the best option and M the rest. [22:37] <_guitarman_> Quiznos: :) [22:37] i go tickless, i dont want fleas & ticks on my kernel [22:37] Well, I could build gnome-vfs, but, I doubt it will solve these dep issues. [22:37] lol [22:38] <_guitarman_> RipVanWinkle: lol agreed ... thats all bad news [22:38] I go real time so I can see the fleas and ticks as they invade. [22:38] fire|bird: might as well install ubuntu... [22:38] ok im looking in the slackware source folder, for the installer. theres only dropbear and busybox in that folder. what else is used to install slackware? [22:38] agentc0re: OHGODNO [22:38] archie that provides a minimal work environment within which to install the other stuff [22:38] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [22:38] agentc0re: I wouldn't mind gsb being installed, as long as I could dissect pulseaudio out of it. [22:39] archiebenedict a/pkgtools [22:39] <_guitarman_> yo notKlaatu [22:39] achie, i think that's not your real question though...what are you trying to do? [22:39] thats it? pkgtools installes it? [22:39] archiebenedict the xz tools [22:39] tar [22:39] well; why not just boot a cd/dvd? [22:39] fire|bird: heheh. i tried gsb for a while.... honestly, i think it makes things worse. i didn't have good luck with it. [22:39] i think that was back in 12.0 days though. [22:40] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:40] agentc0re: haha, I didn't have bad luck with it, except I HATE pulseaudio, it just gets in the way. [22:40] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] agentc0re: They have for 13 and 13 64bit [22:40] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:40] fire|bird: i' [22:40] and gware wouldn't help me at all, gtk is same version as slack. [22:40] fire|bird: i'm good with xfce. [22:40] thinking of making a slackware livecd [22:40] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest1247 [22:40] chk out slax too [22:40] agentc0re: yeah, same here. I just would have liked to try life with parole. :P [22:41] Nick change: Guest1247 -> slacklad [22:41] archie, thats a little more involved...but doable and fun. look into small fs's and also fs overlays [22:41] someone here had done it or was in the prcess recently iirc. forget the nick [22:41] slackware live cd would be neat. [22:42] agentc0re: nothin' better than RYO....:P [22:42] very neat [22:42] RYO? Like on street fighter? [22:42] Oh wait, that's Ryu! [22:42] evil twin? [22:43] lol [22:43] rolling...rolling....rolling....rawhide....:D [22:43] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [22:43] oh yea [22:43] ricksaw [22:43] (whip) [22:43] heh [22:44] MLanden do you like lisp? [22:44] browsing more closely at this package list, im starting to love slackware more [22:44] i found a retro, McCarthy style `lysp' src-package, it's a ~17k binary [22:45] i mean, you cant even find this little program called amp anymore, but it's a command line mp3 player from 1997 [22:45] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:45] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest84960 [22:46] Nick change: Guest84960 -> slacklad [22:46] gfvcdccccfnjmnm nm mmmmmmn./''[ [22:46] orly? [22:46] Quiznos: lol....Good Ole Boys....never tried lisp 'cept a few times [22:46] agentc0re: What'd you say, I thought you were Quiznos for a minute. :P [22:46] haha... keyboard cleaning.. that's how it says it felt good. [22:46] lol [22:46] checking for life_signs in -lkenny... no [22:47] I haven't seen a configure script that said that in like 10 years [22:47] you know what would be even better? if i took a picture of my desk area. you'd go, "Cleaning your keyboard......WTF??" [22:47] lol [22:47] that bad? [22:47] aye, it is. [22:47] oh well [22:47] more beer, makes me feel better about it. [22:48] haha [22:48] Oh, speaking of beer. I got my CO2 tank+kit... time to keg! [22:48] How many beers make you think your desk is clean? [22:48] fire|bird: ..enough? [22:48] :D [22:48] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:48] agentc0re: lol........don't eat that CHEETO......don't know how long it's been stuck in the numeric side..:P [22:49] I don't eat cheeto's, i have more class than that! [22:49] :P [22:49] agentc0re: hahaha [22:49] Urchlay: what package are you talking about? [22:49] Wheat Thins, Veggie chips. They rock! [22:49] MLanden you should collect the more estoeric stuff before they diskapear [22:49] that's my archive/ README title [22:50] BACON!!! [22:50] eggs! [22:50] TOAST [22:50] is diskapear a word? [22:50] but only toast has been make into a linux pkg [22:50] agentc0re: In Quiznos' dictionary, yes. [22:50] agentc0re in my lexicon [22:50] lol [22:50] HOME FRIES.....and a good cup of coffee...:D [22:51] english is a flexible language [22:51] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:51] and if not, weren't you making fun of someone because they didn't put a space in their sentence? so this makes you what? [22:51] mmm [22:51] imaginative [22:51] agentc0re: a nuisance. ;) [22:51] i could go for some home fries and sausage gravy [22:51] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest15252 [22:51] mmm [22:51] Or a hypocrite. [22:51] hm. "diskappear" is a good candidate for one of those old Sniglets books [22:52] yup [22:52] Nick change: Guest15252 -> slacklad [22:52] oh yea!!! [22:52] i remember those [22:52] Urchlay "noggin navigation" [22:52] Hmm, No matches could be found for "diskappear". [22:53] So, in other words, the english dictionary doesn't recognize that as a valid word. ;) [22:53] Urchlay a sniglet meaning "what parents do to direct a child in a certain direction" [22:53] lol; it's the only one i've remembered all these years [22:53] Well, you're parents directed you the wrong way. ;) [22:53] heh [22:53] mrselfpwn: isntalling planeshift is quite painless [22:53] i thought urchlay was piglatin for Lurch [22:53] I was thinking it was "what happens to software that sits around for too long" [22:53] lol [22:53] RipVanWinkle: it is [22:53] i win! [22:54] Reticenti: yes, i figured it would be [22:54] Reticenti: how is it? [22:54] lurch, like from the Adams family? [22:54] yea [22:54] Action: agentc0re double snaps [22:54] Adamms [22:54] Nick change: retsudo -> retsudo_ [22:55] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [22:55] yeah, apparently my ex-gf's little sis thought my phone voice sounded like Lurch [22:55] mrselfpwn: still isntalling [22:55] Nick change: retsudo_ -> retsudo [22:55] she'd yell to her sister "It's Lurch again!" [22:55] lol Urchlay [22:55] lol [22:55] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest20385 [22:55] lol [22:55] how long ago was this? [22:55] eh, 10+ years I guess [22:55] s/lurch/lech? [22:56] Nick change: Guest20385 -> slacklad [22:56] Urchlay do you recall "Unponderables? [22:56] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.101.50) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:56] I don't look like Lurch at all, I look more like Cousin It, maybe [22:56] lol [22:57] unponderables... is that Jack Handy? [22:57] duno [22:57] "why does everything taste like chicken?" [22:57] it's a lie for children to be told [22:57] to tell children [22:57] xfmedia is sure nice. [22:57] Deep Thoughts.....:D [22:57] yea [22:57] hm. I ate some fried alligator and it really did taste like chicken [22:58] why does the egg stand on end only two days of the year [22:58] lol [22:58] (possibly because it was fried the same way as chicken, and maybe fried in grease also used to fry chicken) [22:58] heh [22:59] alligator adouille sausage tastes like any other andouille, apparently [22:59] mrselfpwn: i can load it, and it seems to work, gonna read up on the classes now though [22:59] Huddle House.....a house to huddle in?..:P [23:00] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:00] maybe a huddle house is where football players live [23:00] `[007aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.196) joined ##slackware. [23:00] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest27439 [23:00] <`[007aLinux]> Anyone here? [23:00] NO [23:00] why did the egg cross the road? [23:00] RObotChicken time [23:01] Nick change: Guest27439 -> slacklad [23:01] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] to get down the hill [23:01] <`[007aLinux]> I want to have same /boot and /home partition for multiple operating systems such as fedora and slackware.Is it possible? [23:01] as partitions, yes. [23:02] 007 yes, very possible [23:03] <`[007aLinux]> So during slackware installation -partition, how would i keep the data intact for /home partition made by fedora? [23:03] it's a good idea to separate home from / on its own partition [23:03] dont use it during install [23:03] be careful though: if you share /home between 2 or 3 different OSes, you might end up with e.g. a ~/.kde written by the other OS, that keeps KDE from working in the current OS [23:03] let the installer know what partition gets mounted to /home [23:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:04] this thing with Letterman was a little disingenuous last night; i mean when was he intimate with those women? [23:04] that'll just add the right stuff to fstab.. [23:04] he never said afaik [23:05] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:05] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest85595 [23:05] `[007aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.196) left ##slackware. [23:06] Nick change: Guest85595 -> slacklad [23:07] lol; TMZ: actress fights computer and loses; leg broken [23:07] roflmao [23:07] Quiznos: lol......can't outpwn L'il Kylie....:D [23:07] who? [23:08] Windows 7 little girl [23:08] it was a 80s actress [23:08] oh her [23:09] Quiznos: strugglin' with FoxPro and just lost it? the 80s actress I mean [23:09] lol [23:09] damn you're old [23:09] rofl [23:10] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:10] i'm just 2.half years old [23:10] Action: Quiznos tries to hold up twofingers and a tumb [23:10] [grimace] [23:10] lol [23:10] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest25805 [23:10] i am this many Quiznos. [23:10] yea yea, sure sure (another exclusive macro by Quiznos) [23:10] Action: agentc0re holds up middle finger [23:10] :D [23:10] lol i love that () phrase [23:11] Nick change: Guest25805 -> slacklad [23:11] damn, someone put him out of his misery? [23:11] my misery [23:12] so, Chicago lost, bamer wif and Harpo all lost today [23:12] CrYpTo (n=CrYpTo@68.224.51.178) joined ##slackware. [23:12] Nick change: CrYpTo -> Guest46149 [23:12] i'm sure he's royally pissed [23:13] the Olympic committie did not want to do it in chicago because they did not want the olympic athletes getting beaten up by rioting school kids [23:13] Guest46149 (n=CrYpTo@68.224.51.178) left ##slackware. [23:13] RipVanWinkle S. america has never hosted; that's why Rio was chosen [23:13] that's what they said [23:13] Rio is cool, i am glad they got it [23:13] nods [23:13] yht (n=yht@125.161.70.36) left irc: "Leaving" [23:14] Warning: too fast framerate (0.000000) [23:15] slackboy joined ##slackware. [23:15] unless there's a player with a tight lil unit :) [23:15] :) [23:15] they should make the intro challening like the runner with the torch has to swim the Amazon full of hungry pahranas [23:16] lol [23:16] toytoy (n=dindin@112.202.13.36) joined ##slackware. [23:16] pirhanas [23:16] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest44722 [23:16] yeah, those things [23:16] Superbaloo (n=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] Nick change: Guest44722 -> slacklad [23:17] still cant fking talkin linux [23:17] bastard [23:17] it must be fired [23:17] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [23:18] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] get (n=winsucks@unaffiliated/get) joined ##slackware. [23:18] omg a new Madonna retro cd release [23:19] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-1-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] Material Girl [23:19] lol [23:19] trike!!! [23:19] hey Quiznos [23:19] hihi [23:19] apoca (n=apoca@haydn.n2.nognu.de) joined ##slackware. [23:19] hmm local fox radio is on FM now [23:20] i should try them their reception [23:20] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest79637 [23:20] Blackice1 (n=Jonathan@c-68-41-77-242.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] Nick change: Guest79637 -> slacklad [23:22] <_guitarman_> Quiznos: when you mentioned Queueing ... what area in menuconfig did you mean? [23:22] take care,slackers... talk with y'all later! [23:22] Blackice1 (n=Jonathan@c-68-41-77-242.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:23] see ya MLanden [23:23] later fire|bird [23:23] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-156-87.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:24] _guitarman_ (_ prefix sux) process queuing [23:25] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:25] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest10622 [23:26] Nick change: Guest10622 -> slacklad [23:26] hey fire|bird [23:26] hi test [23:26] is there a flat ftp.dir of tarballs somewhere? [23:26] Quiz nos:) [23:27] like freebsd has? [23:27] hey hitest [23:27] :) [23:29] Action: hitest is happy this evening...finally got Slackware to load on this aging AMD 900 MHz Compaq. It was weird, I couldn't load 12.2 on this unit, but, 13.0 loaded just fine?! It is all good:) [23:29] could it be the colonel? [23:29] yeah, methinks so [23:30] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:30] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [23:30] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest90768 [23:30] what is up with the bot? [23:31] Nick change: Guest90768 -> slacklad [23:31] netsplit threw it for a loop [23:31] i don't think that s the bot, is it? [23:31] hitest: identity crisis :P [23:31] heh-heh:) [23:31] mancha: yes [23:31] some op should put that idiot out of his misery though [23:31] laters, sleepytime [23:31] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [23:31] Superbaloo (n=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:31] problem is, the bot's nick is enforced.. they'll have to "ghost" it.. [23:32] er..r elease it [23:32] but it should time out soon [23:32] can't you do some freenode magic? [23:32] nope [23:32] Not my channel :) [23:32] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [23:33] Action: chopp kicks unixfool, wherever he may be. :) [23:35] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:36] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:36] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest88100 [23:36] that sucks [23:37] Nick change: Guest88100 -> slacklad [23:37] annoying [23:40] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:40] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest11852 [23:41] Nick change: Guest11852 -> slacklad [23:41] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:45] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest14555 [23:46] Nick change: Guest14555 -> slacklad [23:46] did you guys ever watch any youtube videos about the "retarded policeman"? [23:46] Dominian: timeout soon? it's been going on for more than half the day. [23:46] bah [23:46] hang on [23:47] lol [23:47] I'm seeing if I can raise one of the OPs on IM [23:47] iirc rworkman tried to identify the bot earlier, but it didn't take the pass or something. [23:49] Dominian: yeah, I don't have a valid password, so there's nothign I can do. [23:49] The pass Ron gave us is invalid now. [23:50] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:50] bahh [23:50] I mailed him, but no reply thus far [23:50] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest46224 [23:50] hi nix_chix0r, how are you? [23:51] Nick change: Guest46224 -> slacklad [23:51] bahh fire|bird just bahhhh [23:52] heading to st cloud hospital tomorrow [23:52] bummer [23:52] his dad that we've been trying to call for three days that wouldn't answer apparently was unconsious at his house on the floor with blood all over the place [23:52] his friend broke in his house and called the cops [23:52] oh shit [23:52] wow [23:53] nix_chix0r: How's he doing, do you know? [23:53] he's an alcoholic and he just decided to take all his anti depressents and sleeping pills and fall over his house [23:53] Nick change: obnauticus -> Billy-Mays [23:53] not sure he's in ICU at hte momment but is sedated so no point driving there now [23:53] rworkman: drat [23:54] Nick change: Billy-Mays -> shamw0w [23:54] Nick change: shamw0w -> shamwow [23:54] it's just so stupid [23:54] Nick change: shamwow -> shamw0w [23:54] makes me mad. he has a grandson.. and needs to cut that shit out [23:55] rworkman: PM? [23:55] he sounds like he's hard-core into the sauce [23:55] nix_chix0r can i msg you? [23:55] sure [23:55] rworkman: actually.. nevermind [23:55] hitest: yeah, for sure. [23:55] hitest, 10 beers a day along with 8-10 shots of whiskey [23:55] pffft [23:55] just asking for it [23:55] whoa....major hard-core [23:56] Nick change: slacklad -> slackboy [23:56] Nick change: slackboy -> Guest27548 [23:57] Nick change: Guest27548 -> slacklad [23:57] rworkman: there is a way to stop it from doing that... dunno if you want to though.. you can +q it soi t can't /nick [23:57] Dominian: sure, but, okay :) [23:57] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [23:57] ##slackware: mode change '+b %slacklad!*@*' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [23:57] okay :) [23:57] ##slackware: mode change '-b %slacklad!*@*' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [23:57] Actually, let's wait till he's slackboy again :) [23:58] drew carey on Conan next [23:58] ew, what kind of porn are you watching? [23:58] LOL [23:58] hahaha [23:58] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:58] agentc0re: apparently the two guy kind. :/ [23:58] NBC pr0n [23:59] maybe the 8033 tube that is red kind? [23:59] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:00] --- Sat Oct 3 2009