[00:00] e2718: you sure about that (mozilla) ? [00:00] I could swear that it is indeed rebuilt [00:00] see mozilla-firefox.SlackBuild [00:00] mishehu, on 32-bit it's upstream, on 64-bit it's rebuilt [00:00] especially since I build new packages with the same slackbuild everytime a new ver comes out [00:00] (Mozilla don't provide 64 bit binaries) [00:00] veritos: ah ok. [00:00] although the 64-bit slackbuild runs just fine on 32 bit too [00:03] please, add flash plugin to firefox [00:03] for youtoobe [00:03] boobtube? [00:04] eldragon, ok, i'll do it [00:04] don't you have anything better to do than watch boobtube all day? :-) [00:04] 32-bit flash plugin for firefox 32-bit, i've not idea for 64-bit. [00:05] eldragon: I've got 64 bit flash on my browser [00:06] 64bit flash .. double the bewbs ;) [00:07] wotcha BP{k} [00:07] infantile obsessions [00:07] lw0x15: wotchers :@) [00:07] lol [00:08] BP{k}: You can view far bigger bewbs with 64-bit flash. [00:08] I couldn't get 64-bit flash bewbs working for the month I had it :P [00:09] Razec (1000@187-27-222-131.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:09] 64-bit flash should "just work" like the 32-bit flash [00:10] Guest24206 (~nathan@d47-69-124-115.try.wideopenwest.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:10] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-178-65.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [00:10] BadAtom: that's what you think.. [00:11] er [00:11] NaCl: [00:11] no clue how I missed that [00:11] Those are close. [00:12] NaCl is bad ass [00:12] huh? [00:12] it is the icing after you raze the enemy's farmlands [00:13] it is good for rocket cars [00:13] racing on salt flats [00:15] just as poorly [00:16] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-178-65.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:16] jim_james (~swwww@212.183.140.35) joined ##slackware. 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[01:51] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:55] lw0x15: use the rpc plugin with rutorrent [01:56] and you have to run rtorrent yourself [01:59] b0o-yeah (b0o-yeah@unaffiliated/b0o-yeah) left ##slackware. [02:03] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-178-65.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:04] Nick change: jeagoss -> jeagone [02:05] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [02:11] gm151 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:15] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.172) joined ##slackware. [02:19] slacktv (~47689732@gateway/web/freenode/x-yigeprbmnhvfuhoz) joined ##slackware. [02:19] hello everyone. [02:19] slacktv: Hello. [02:20] I have an Airlink101 NAS250 Drive, I can mount the drive without a problem on linux mint, but I can't mount it using slackware-current I get mount error(12) [02:20] any ideas? [02:21] slacktv: What specific error and how did you mount? [02:21] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:22] Nick change: jeagone -> jeagoss [02:22] mount -t cifs -o username=xxx,password ip mountpoint [02:23] mount error (12): cannot allocate memory [02:23] Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page [02:23] mount -t cifs -o username=xxx,password=xxx ip mountpoint [02:25] http://www.airlink101.com/products/anas250.php [02:27] slacktv: What is the output of $ free -m #? [02:29] Mem: 3294 3188 106 0 108 2645 [02:29] lem1 (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [02:30] I get this error when trying to compile hostapd. http://pastebin.org/132021 Any idea? [02:30] slacktv: I'm not sure about your command syntax ... here's what I would try: [02:31] put an entry in your fstab like: [02:31] //host/share /mount/point cifs credentials=/path/to/authfile 0 0 [02:31] then create a file with this content: [02:31] the syntax if just fine, I use it all the time with other drives. [02:31] username=you [02:32] password=yourpw [02:32] that is correct [02:32] After installing Slackware Current I'm having big problems with my video card is this a known issue, any help please? [02:32] this particular NAS Drive does not really require a username or password. [02:34] what's the problem leml: [02:34] slacktv: What is the size of your NAS drive? [02:34] 500G [02:34] slacktv: surely it presents a share name instead of just the IP address ? [02:34] It seems that the video driver is not loaded during startup. [02:35] lem1: Which is your video card? [02:35] leml: what is the video card and what exactly is the problem? [02:36] rk4n3: when I said ip what I really mean is //ip/sharename just trying to minimize what I am typing here. [02:37] it's an asus nvidia card not sure the type.. [02:38] slacktv: ok ... hmm - have you checked /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog ? [02:38] it's an Asus EN8800GTS OC/HTDP 512M, 2xDVI, HDTVo, PCIe [02:39] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:40] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [02:41] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-88.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:41] During booting I can see the dots and the slackware message after loading some drivers the video mode is switch and than the screen is getting black... [02:41] [cifs vfs] cifs_mount failed w/return code = -100 [02:41] [cifs vfs] error connecing to socket. Aborting operation [02:44] slacktv: can you connect with smbclient ? [02:45] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.172) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:45] rk4n3: haven't try smbclient [02:45] slacktv: trying that might give you more information [02:45] I will thx. [02:47] leml: so your system is automatically going into a graphical mode? init 4 [02:48] It's switching from standard text mode to another mode and during that the screen is getting black. [02:48] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:50] try to boot the system by passing vga=normal at the lilo prompt [02:50] boot: Linux vga=normal [02:50] like that [02:50] godane (~arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:50] ok, will try that.. [02:51] If you don't get the lilo prompt by default, hit tab when you see the red lilo screen [02:51] antiwire: I cannot compile hostapd. http://pastebin.org/132021 [02:52] i have the madwifi line commented out [02:52] Azeotrope: Something in your defconfig/.config is wrong still then [02:53] antiwire: http://pastebin.org/132028 my .config file [02:54] I'm using lilo as bootloader is the following correct? [02:54] boot: vga=normal Linux [02:54] Linux is the kernel? [02:54] also, if that's any help, I am following this tutorial: http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/ath5kAccessPoint [02:54] lem1: yes, you have it backwards [02:55] boot: Linux vga=normal [02:55] lamron=agv xuniL [02:55] Azeotrope: which version of hostapd? [02:56] antiwire: 0.7.1. tried the 0.5.1 slackbuild but doesn't have what i need [02:57] ok, thanksthats working thanks. [02:57] Azeotrope: I'm using hostapd v0.7.1 [02:57] Azeotrope: do you have libnl installed? [02:57] but you're somekind of a guru [02:57] yes [02:57] don't call me a guru [02:58] ok, I'll post my config one sec [02:58] thanks, now I have to find out the reason why it does not work.. [02:58] http://pastebin.org/132037 [02:59] Azeotrope: I use that config to build hostapd with libnl support and EAP support [03:03] antiwire: same- cc: /include: No such file or directory make: *** [../src/utils/uuid.o] Error 1 [03:03] smbclient works just fine. [03:04] Azeotrope: Are you running current? [03:04] no... slackware64 13.0 [03:04] That might have something to do with it. [03:04] I don't run a 64 bit OS [03:04] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:05] i have the 32bit compat libs [03:05] leml: don't forget to change your lilo.conf modify the line vga= and than running lilo [03:05] Thanks I was looking for that. [03:06] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.14) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:06] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:06] leml: nano /etc/lilo.conf [03:06] Now booting works and KDE starting in a very strange mode, it's not readable .. [03:07] split screen? [03:08] Azeotrope: I mean that I don't have experience with building hostapd on slackware64 [03:09] No kind of 2 color mode, very strange.. [03:09] With or without compat [03:10] antiwire: oh, ok. thanks for the help. who can I bug? rworkman? [03:10] someone might know [03:11] did you check the forum yet? Maybe someone already went through this [03:11] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:12] I had vga = normal in my lilo.conf tried that earlier but it seems that spaces between the = doesnt work, it's. [03:12] nothing o the forum... [03:13] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [03:14] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [03:17] leml: try runing xorgsetup before you start kde to configure your video card. [03:18] slacktv, thanks I will try that . [03:19] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.121.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:19] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [03:20] xorgsetup is giving me a black screen also after the message to edit xorg.conf [03:20] hyke (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:26] leml: do you have a xorg.conf on /etc/X11 if so try the following mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.org than try startx [03:28] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:29] usus12jari (~ashe@114.58.90.55) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:30] leml: you can alos check the log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log that migth give you a clue of what the problem is. [03:30] No, i don't have a xorg.conf file in etc or /etc/X1 dir it seems that the video card is not correctly probed during startup, i have this with 2 PC's so it must be a software issue.. [03:31] I have to login the PC using the network the screen is dead .. [03:31] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-88.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:31] the new xorg doesn't really require a config file, since you have and nvidia card I would find out what card you have and install the nvida driver from their web site. [03:31] Journey (~Journey@p672d24.tkyoea26.ap.so-net.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [03:32] Hey kids, try this command for a bit of fun: rm -rfv /* [03:32] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:32] no thx.. [03:33] Have you tried it yourself Journey? [03:33] Yes. [03:33] Tell us what you get :-D [03:33] leml: you can find out what video card you have by typing lspci [03:34] Journey: you know /part is a quicker and cleaner way to leave the channel [03:34] it's an [03:34] VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GTS 512] (rev a2) [03:35] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [03:35] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.tkyoea26.ap.so-net.ne.jp' by alienBOB!~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [03:35] Journey kicked from ##slackware by alienBOB: Journey [03:35] Morning alienBOB. ;) [03:36] Hi and gone [03:36] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [03:37] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [03:39] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] duckegg (~IFo@89.203.192.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:40] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [03:40] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:40] alienBOB: can you please help me with that error in compiling hostapd 0.7.1? [03:40] leml: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html [03:42] thanks for the great help slacktv.. [03:43] no prob.. [03:44] Tusk (~Tusk@213.200.235.213) joined ##slackware. [03:44] time for bed.. bye everyone.. thx for the help rk4n3 [03:44] Ok, bye slacktv see you .... [03:45] slacktv (~47689732@gateway/web/freenode/x-yigeprbmnhvfuhoz) left irc: Quit: Page closed [03:45] meler (~meler@adsl-67-114-9-227.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] __n0v4__ (~n0v4@59.93.163.59) joined ##slackware. [03:48] __n0v4__ (~n0v4@59.93.163.59) left irc: Client Quit [03:48] fsilva_ (~fsilva@189.26.5.179.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:48] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:48] __n0v4__ (~n0v4@59.93.163.59) joined ##slackware. [03:49] <__n0v4__> hi [03:49] __n0v4__ (~n0v4@59.93.163.59) left irc: Client Quit [03:49] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [03:51] fsilva (~fsilva@201.86.20.161.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:54] OffPlanet (~meler@adsl-67-114-9-227.dsl.frsn01.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:13] OffPlanet (~meler@adsl-67-114-9-227.dsl.frsn01.pacbell.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:13] you asshole [04:13] hi lets troll slackware [04:14] I remember removing my home directory when I first started using linux. someone told me to do that [04:15] Kitena (~Kitena@65.48.212.17) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [04:17] Dionna (~Dionna@72.51.92.21) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Dionna (~Dionna@72.51.92.21) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [04:19] wow spammers are starting to roll in. [04:19] It's the same person [04:19] he was in here yesterday [04:19] couple other chans i'm in had a lot of ones comming from #GNAA [04:19] just horrible fllooding [04:20] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [04:21] when I run ffmpeg slackbuild I have this problem http://pastebin.com/sNDffbpu [04:23] rizitis: did you install all of the dependencies required to build ffmpeg? [04:23] what dows config.err say? [04:23] looks like you might be missing FAAD [04:24] FAAD is a lib? [04:24] indeed it is [04:24] thank you [04:26] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:28] relevant to Kitena... http://blogs.sun.com/jbeck/date/20041001 [04:30] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [04:30] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:34] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:35] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [04:35] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:35] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:35] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[04:59] and i still cant [05:00] neither does root [05:00] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) joined ##slackware. [05:02] OnGA_ (~5062b254@gateway/web/freenode/x-pvwvmvfsqjrbvtsi) joined ##slackware. [05:02] HeAWy TrOLlZ ATtAcK WArniNG! [05:03] Aloha brotha' [05:03] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:03] OnGA_ (~5062b254@gateway/web/freenode/x-pvwvmvfsqjrbvtsi) left irc: Quit: Page closed [05:21] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:21] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [05:29] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.14) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:32] Treyvon (~Treyvon@65.48.146.184) joined ##slackware. [05:32] Hey guys and gals, try this at home: rm -rfv /* [05:33] gogie (~standardk@unaffiliated/gogie) joined ##slackware. [05:33] Treyvon (~Treyvon@65.48.146.184) left irc: Quit: G2G [05:34] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.135) joined ##slackware. [05:36] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.tkyoea26.ap.so-net.ne.jp expired. [05:36] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.tkyoea26.ap.so-net.ne.jp' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:37] pprkut, I install ffmpeg from slackbilds, I am on slackware13, at compiling I show this message : "ffplay.c:2601: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type" is that a problem ? [05:38] as long as it builds. [05:38] yes [05:39] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [05:41] fatalnix (1001@robots.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:41] that's just a warning [05:41] rizitis: it says "warning", which usually is not a problem. [05:42] ok thanks [05:42] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:43] Fatalnix (1001@robots.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) joined ##slackware. [05:44] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [05:47] Fatalnix (1001@robots.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [05:50] anybody who can advice me which video card is working very well with slackware-current and kde? [05:51] Fatalnix (1001@robots.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) joined ##slackware. [05:54] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [06:00] lem1: nvidia drivers are better for linux compared to ati's :) [06:00] im telling you that first hand im with ati card :) [06:00] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [06:03] ok, thanks strange I'm having troubles with VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GTS 512] (rev a2) [06:03] define "troubles" [06:03] what kind of troubles lem1 [06:05] card will not initializing properly during startup the PC and starting KDE [06:05] that isn't much more descriptive. [06:05] what driver version are you using? [06:05] what wario said and if its not initializing properly on pc startup [06:05] vga=normal works no other mode.. [06:05] i doubt its the slackware [06:06] I'm having it using slackware-current on two same PC's having same hardware.. [06:07] If i'm going back to 13.0 it's working well [06:07] lem1: as far as the boot up, the mode depends on what your monitor and card support. i have an 8800 and it works. [06:08] Are you als usung current? [06:08] lem1: as far as kde not starting, i know that if on current because of the later kernel version people have to install the latest beta driver found on nvidia's ftp website. [06:09] lem1: not yet on that machine though i've encountered 3-4 people already with the same problem. [06:09] as far as console, you probably just need to find a compatible mode for framebuffer to work [06:10] ah, ok trying *NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.36.15-pkg1.run but it will not compile.. [06:11] you are on slackware or slackware64? [06:11] slackware-current [06:11] well, that is the latest one that is supposed to be working [06:11] ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/195.36.15/ [06:12] what's the error it gives? [06:12] yes, downloaded this morning. [06:13] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-19-168.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:15] unable to load kernel module 'nvidia.ko'. [06:15] you have to blacklist the nouveau module first [06:15] is the kernel nvidia driver loading? [06:15] like sahk0 said [06:16] how to blacklist nouveau module [06:16] Acidcore (~IFo@89.203.192.156) joined ##slackware. [06:17] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:17] edit /etc/modules.d/blacklist.conf and add nouveau in there [06:17] in /etc/modeprobe.d/blacklist? [06:17] ok, thanks.. [06:18] blacklist nouveau done.. [06:18] modprobe -r nouveau [06:19] to remove it [06:19] vehn_z (~vehn_z@h62-133-181-98.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:21] then install the nvidia one [06:22] ok, hmodule is in use will cleanly reboot... [06:23] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:24] ok, reboots without problem now... [06:25] still having problems with X an kde .. [06:26] I'm getting the prompt back again that's better than it was... [06:27] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet."). [06:27] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:28] installing the driver now... [06:28] I thought you did that [06:29] I tried but it didn't work, after blacklist nouveau it's installing... [06:30] KDE is working again thank you very much for the great help folks... [06:31] welcome [06:31] Is this issue known by the slackware folks? [06:31] for the console, just try to find a resolution that works [06:31] 788 possibly [06:32] whatever matches your screen size [06:32] the console is also working i've tried vga=normal and will try other settings now.. [06:32] running 1600x1200 resolution [06:33] okay, good luck and good night [06:34] ok, thanks again and cul..... [06:35] yiup (~nee@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:36] Hello I have some trouble partitioning my drive. It says: warning re-reading the partition table failed with error 22 invalid argument when i write my configuration to disk [06:36] I already tried using 'o' to set a dos disk label but that had no effect [06:37] yiup: What tool are you using to partition? [06:37] fdisk [06:37] cfdisk [06:38] vehn_z (~vehn_z@h62-133-181-98.dyn.bashtel.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:39] i'll try that now [06:39] thanks it seems to have done the job [06:40] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:41] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [06:42] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:42] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-69-33.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:43] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:43] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [06:47] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:51] Nick change: jeagoss -> jeagone [06:51] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-247-192.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:52] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:57] I'm trying to add a black stripe to an image but it looks like my convert-fu isn't high enough and I can't figure out how to do it: any advice? [07:00] (I managed to make a 83MB image btw =) ) [07:01] (a 83MB .*jpg* image) [07:01] would it be a good idea to use swaret? [07:02] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:04] yiup: To do what? [07:04] yiup: no [07:04] for managing packages and dependencies [07:04] In Krfb I have an IPv6 address? why? [07:06] Using desktop sharing can allow the client to add malicious software without me seeing? i wanna supervise somebody working [07:08] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-130.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:16] asparagus (ryan@202.65.122.14) joined ##slackware. [07:22] asparagus (ryan@202.65.122.14) left irc: [07:22] asparagus (ryan@202.65.122.14) joined ##slackware. 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[07:37] ip whois says india, shrug [07:37] yeah, it was a joke [07:38] but its dead now [07:38] yiup: rule of thumb : dependency management doesn't exist in slackware, since official slackware packages do not contain necessary metadata for that [07:38] flity (~foolity@123.121.5.250) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:38] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:40] Will this command in fact start ssh whenever the system is booted: chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd [07:40] ? [07:40] yeah [07:40] yiup: that command results in sshd being started on bootup. it doesn't actually _start_ it [07:41] i understand [07:42] everything thats +x in /etc/rc.d gets executed at boot time [07:42] thats how you enable/disable facilities [07:42] Good to know [07:42] Skaperen: that's not true [07:42] oops, Skywise ^^ [07:42] Skywise: not true [07:43] it only applies to predefined set of scripts in that dir. [07:43] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:44] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435130.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:44] well it's actually quite convenient [07:44] since when? [07:46] Skywise: third party rc.scripts have to manualy be added into rc.local (mostly) [07:46] yiup: what's convenient? [07:46] that you can just edit the permissions of the scripts in that directory to make them boot [07:46] Skywise: there is nothing in slackware that iterates through everything in /etc/rc.d, outside of predefined scripts [07:47] what about rc.sysvinit? [07:47] Skywise: that doesn't apply to /etc/rc.d/ itself [07:47] # Now do the startup scripts: [07:47] for script in /etc/rc.d/rc$runlevel.d/S* ; do [07:47] if [ -x $script ]; then [07:47] Channel flood from Skywise -- kicking [07:47] startup $script start [07:47] fi [07:47] Skywise kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:47] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [07:47] oops [07:47] see. right there. rc$runlevel/ subdir of rc.d [07:48] yiup: most major distros have convenient ways of controlling what gets started :) [07:48] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-247-192.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:48] you could put script there, but thats still not /etc/rc.d wich is slackware native, sublevels are afaik legacy to support scripts from other distros [07:48] i wouldn't call it 'legacy' rather 'compatibility layer' [07:48] rc.M does it too [07:49] anyway, its easy enough to do if you want [07:49] ananke: you are right, i slipped :p [07:49] Skywise: again, nothing in slackware will execute random script in /etc/rc.d/ [07:49] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-175-226.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:51] if I connect one windows pc and my slackware pc with each other via a cat crosover cable, what do i do in terms of configuration, or where can i find info on this? [07:51] and i just want to telnet to the slackwar pc [07:52] google [07:52] yiup: use netconfig on slackware, and set it up with an ip designated for internal networks. for example '192.168.0.10' netmask 255.255.255.0 [07:52] i would think they'd would just have to be on the same subnet [07:53] electronically, its no different then being plugged into a hub [07:53] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-19-168.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:53] yiup: on windows set it as 192.168.0.11, same netmask. then you can use ssh and connect to the linux box [07:53] i will try it now [07:53] yiup: and if it's a more recent hardware, you don't even need a crossover cable, network cards can use regular straight through cables and do the switching internally [07:53] and most nics are autosensing and you prolly don't even need a xover cable [07:54] well i guess it is possible to agree on something [07:55] Nick change: fsilva_ -> fsilva [07:56] ananke, usually if they're gigabit [07:57] autoswitching is part of the gigabit spec [07:57] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:57] they've been autosensing since the late 90s [07:58] for switches [07:58] and nics [07:58] Not that I've seen [07:58] having to inventory both xover and straight cables has been over for a while [07:59] but you did first see it on hubs [07:59] actually, I don't even do that, looks like I'm young enough to never had to worry about that (except maybe a few times on old hardware) [07:59] it usually was the daisy chain port [08:00] then all the ports were autosensing [08:00] then nics as well [08:00] but it happened a long time ago [08:03] yiup2 (~nee@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:03] yiup (~nee@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:04] Nick change: yiup2 -> yiup [08:04] the slackware box responds to ping, but when i try pinging the windows computer from slackware it says network unreachable [08:05] i did disable the windows firewall [08:05] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:05] realtek 8139s can autosense and they were product of the year in 97 [08:05] afaik realtek 8139 cannot autosense [08:06] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:06] via cards can however, and usualy laptop nics can autosense no matter wich brand [08:07] slackaholic (1000@187-25-166-200.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:07] slackaholic (1000@187-25-166-200.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [08:10] realtek cards can depending on the PHY chip attached to the realtek controller. [08:12] i was looking for the specs, but everything is regarding the current versions [08:13] I just looked at the rl manpage on FreeBSD [08:14] slackaholic (1000@187-24-159-248.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:15] when i do netconfig and set ip adress to 192.168.0.10, shouldn't ifconfig show the same thing for inet addr ? [08:15] Razec (1000@187-27-200-41.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:16] yeah, what does it show? [08:17] i think i was looking at the loopback thingy [08:17] 127.0.0.0 [08:19] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:19] slackaholic (1000@187-24-159-248.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:21] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.31) joined ##slackware. [08:33] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.135) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:35] I edited the timeout option in the lilo.conf file, it didn't help however. is this overidden somewhere in slackware? [08:38] you have to run lilo to enable changes in the conf [08:41] i see [08:46] nepper (~furb@187.5.173.62) joined ##slackware. [08:46] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:47] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:47] thanks for all of your help [08:48] bye [08:48] Axius (~hi@92.82.77.39) joined ##slackware. [08:48] yiup (~nee@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: [08:48] john_dee (~id@93-81-71-130.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:48] how can i install internet explorer 8 to slackware? [08:49] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:49] john_dee: wine but are you serious? [08:49] The-Croupier: just trolling :p [08:49] :( [08:50] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:50] nepper (~furb@187.5.173.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:51] The-Croupier: what are you saying it'll work in wine? [08:52] i thought there is an option to install IE there ;) yes, i believe it will [08:53] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:54] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:54] nick4 (~fffeop@178.128.13.228.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:54] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [08:55] The-Croupier: that's nasty %) gotta give it a try [08:56] teckan (~teckan@p5B0CB16A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:57] gogie (~standardk@unaffiliated/gogie) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:58] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-157-72.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:59] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:59] i am using virtualbox 3.1.6 (non-OSE) at slackware64 13.0 and i am wondering if it is normal that the sound is not available at slackware when i start virtualbox (the sound - both playback and capture - works ok in the guest OS). when i close virtualbox, i have sound again at slackware. i am using OSS/AC97 drivers in virtualbox and my host system (slackware) uses alsa drivers by default. [08:59] Axius (~hi@92.82.77.39) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:02] (when i try to use the command play while running virtualbox i get the following: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave (...) Device or resource busy") [09:04] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:04] john_dee: i wouldnt like IE or any other MS software near my slackware in the first place ;) [09:04] zhoun (~guo@218.82.96.134) joined ##slackware. [09:07] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:09] is there a way to see what application does a port relate to? [09:09] lsof -i [09:10] and you can grep netstat output, but that seems slower than lsof [09:10] for nfs, you're stuck with rpcinfo [09:11] nope none of those worked [09:11] lsof or netstat :( [09:11] needs to be run as root often [09:11] trhodes: already tried that too ;) [09:12] even rpcinfo doesn't say anything ? [09:12] trhodes: to get an idea of what i want to do [09:12] nmap reports: Not shown: 994 closed ports [09:12] PORT STATE SERVICE [09:12] 21/tcp open ftp [09:13] lsof -1 :21 # as root, show nothing? [09:13] *shows [09:13] i want to find a way to be able to see what port is being used, and how can i block something if i dont know the service... [09:13] well, it's started by inetd (typically) in slackware [09:14] oops, lsof -i :21 [09:14] nope, that doesnt reproduce anything [09:15] /etc/rc,d/rc.inetd stop #ought to stop ftp if it was started by inetd [09:16] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.77.110) joined ##slackware. [09:16] trhodes: that is the result of the external ip scan ;) i suppose that would be the routers port [09:16] open, i was thinking, i can close them if i get in the router i suppose [09:17] oh ok, yeah [09:17] zhoun (~guo@218.82.96.134) left irc: Quit: ‚» [09:17] i will try to see if i can close it from the router ;) ;) [09:18] haha, that'll probably do it :) what kind is it ? [09:18] The-Croupier: is that router running hacked firmware? [09:18] some westell i ran into recently was running some embedded linux already [09:18] XGizzmo: i hope not, i havent messed with it ;) [09:19] XGizzmo: but it is running some kind of linux [09:19] montavista from what i got from the nmap report [09:19] dang why the hell would they have one of the ftp ports open then! [09:19] that is poor form :( [09:20] XGizzmo: that is my thought exactly... and some other port that is unknown from what i see ;) [09:20] i want to just get in and close most of the things ;) [09:20] to learn as well ;) [09:21] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] teckan (~teckan@p5B0CB16A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:34] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:34] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [09:36] http://i.imgur.com/rs7LM.jpg [09:36] vvor (~vvor@bzq-79-176-26-57.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:29] hmm having problem with closing some ports from the router web-interface :( [10:33] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-68-122.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:37] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0FAAB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Axius (~hi@92.85.216.202) joined ##slackware. [10:42] allend (~allend@CPE-124-181-130-141.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:43] slava_dp (~family@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [10:44] The-Croupier (ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:45] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [10:45] can anybody recommend a video converter for linux that convert between different formats? [10:46] slava_dp: search:video convert at sf.net and freshmeat.net? [10:46] nepper (~furb@189.31.116.2) joined ##slackware. [10:46] gnubien, right [10:47] ffmpeg? [10:47] ffmpeg [10:47] ffmpeg. [10:48] just built it. took a while, but got there in the end [10:49] hmmm need a way to get on top of all the services running on the pc and the router... is there somewhere to start? /etc/services , inetd, killall,... :( [10:50] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:51] forgot to mention that a graphical one is needed :) maybe a frontend to ffmpeg [10:51] girlfriend needs one [10:51] The-Croupier: netstat -atnp perhaps [10:52] The-Croupier, lsof -i [10:53] pstree :) [10:53] in The-Croupier's case, it's services on his router :) [10:53] as well [10:54] netstat ntlup i was using ;) but i see the point ill read those very nicely ;) [10:54] also, what i was thinking is something to kill the services running even if i have to do it by hand ;) [10:55] for a start then, when i learn them better, ill try to make some script, or something [10:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:55] Axius (~hi@92.85.216.202) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:57] The-Croupier, did you ever get into your router or find decent documentation for it ? [10:57] e2718 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:58] i got into my router... from the web interface..nothing much to do there...:( [10:59] got some documentation and how to update the firmware...ill do that after i get some recent/needed software for auditing..etc... [10:59] after that i can work offline for a bit ;) [10:59] that's a good start anyways [10:59] OldGringo (amigo@p54B0FAAB.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Client Exiting"). [10:59] yeah, the router seems to be crap, i got it for 40$ only :( [11:00] some of those crap routers can run linux [11:00] i had some bad ones myself, the worst were connexiant-based chips [11:00] ran some stupid vworks real time os or somesuch [11:00] e2718: this one actually is ;) [11:00] *vxworks [11:00] at least there's hope for it then :) [11:01] i love how linux is tiny on a router [11:01] i dont know, [11:01] at least i have htop for now...maybe that could help me a little with the services i need to stop [11:01] Linux kernel, busybox, and dropbear sshd, fitting in a couple of megabytes [11:02] is there's a modern 2.2 or 2.4 that will fit on a floppy still ? [11:02] e2718: thats funny actually when i telnet to the local ip of the router, it tells me busybox something [11:02] busybox includes vi and awk, so you could theoretically write little programs [11:02] busybox on localhost ;) loll [11:02] busybox is what the slackware installer uses [11:03] i cannot login to it with telnet ;) that is another problem ;) [11:03] awk CGI behind some duct tape httpd [11:04] got in ;) [11:05] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:05] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:05] I thought alienBOB had a handbrake package, but now I can't find it. [11:05] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-94-189.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:06] trhodes: i doubt it, but it is a nice idea [11:06] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/handbrake/ [11:06] it's hidden under "h" [11:08] i read one thread about favorite programming idioms [11:09] i like languages that are agnostic about punctuation and white space, ie: no mandated indentation, no mandated curly brace blocks, no perl style @$% variable prefixes, no line continuation characters \ [11:09] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:09] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:10] hitest (~George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] no end of statement delimiter ; [11:12] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:14] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. 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[11:28] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:29] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Client exiting [11:29] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:31] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:39] slackaholic (1000@187-25-148-214.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:40] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:44] If i let someone access my desktop with VNC and I supervised it (saw everything done) is there a risk of being infected with malware? [11:44] Azeotrope: 1) take that to a windows chat 2) why would you do that [11:44] linux [11:44] not windows [11:45] Uhm... [11:45] You..supervised it [11:45] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@208-38-105-238.static.izoom.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:45] Did they do anything malicious? [11:45] no [11:46] besides, malware is mainly a windows thing [11:46] So..then...the answer is no [11:46] yea, but i'm speaking about things as deploying payloads without me seeing, etc [11:46] probably nothing too magic, no [11:47] Not through VNC, no. [11:47] If they had ssh access, maybe. [11:47] i thinking of that... [11:47] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:47] clear [11:47] they would need to gather quite a bit of information to really compromise you easily on linux [11:47] Action: The-Croupier apologises [11:47] worked for 4 hrs [11:48] i'm kinda reluctant in giving ssh [11:49] maybe you could figure out multiuser screen [11:49] Azeotrope: lol. [11:49] just lol. [11:49] Action: raela nods at spook [11:49] ... [11:50] trhodes: not really, but ok [11:52] so, does slackware's vnc server allow things as file transfer? [11:52] no, it's a remote framebuffer protocol [11:53] Slackware doesn't have its own VNC. Check with the makers of whatever VNC product you use [11:53] KDE ? [11:53] hard tellin' what's actually bein' used though :/ [11:54] windows in vmware? :D [11:54] how can i see everything someone does in my ssh server? [11:54] i already gave you a tip in the regard, Azeotrope [11:54] s/the/that [11:55] muliuser gnu screen is a good start [11:55] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [11:55] Azeotrope: *you* shouldnt be giving out remote access to your machine. [11:55] i don't know how [11:55] Azeotrope: what is so important that you need to give vnc access, but apparently have to watch the whole time? [11:55] Azeotrope: can't figure out how to install software? [11:55] raela: yea. [11:56] el oh el. [11:56] heh [11:56] Azeotrope: so I guess this means you gave them root access, too? :) [11:57] and my home keys [11:57] you shoulda given 'em your page up / down keys instead [11:58] Action: BP{k} prefers the SysRq key ;) [11:58] trhodes: well, I never use home anyway [11:58] I could give someone that key [11:58] SysRq is fun [11:59] hmmm if i telnet to my router.. how can i close some ports? i cannot find a way from the internet nor the manual of the router... [11:59] log in, run "script /tmp/script.log" and start work... run "tail -f /tmp/script.log" and i'll see the commands passed by ssh? [11:59] nor the official website [12:02] whats the sysrq interupt, ctrl + alt + shift + sysrq? [12:02] The-Croupier: there's no 192.168.0.1 for it? or something similar? [12:02] alt+sysrq+cmd [12:02] The-Croupier: nothing written on the router itself? [12:03] raela: there is a 192.168.1.1 [12:03] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:03] i can telnet to it as root [12:03] thrice`, thanks for the link by the way. had hard time locating it. [12:04] slava_dp: then its busier backwards? [12:04] The-Croupier: the router on my desk has instructions on how to connect to it on the bottom of it [12:05] raela: i can connect to it, i just cannot close some ports... [12:05] ah [12:05] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:05] there is nothing in the web-interface, in the official website of the router, or in google to do with it :( [12:06] i was wondering if there are any widely used commands to do such a thing, if so... how can i look for them? any specific terminology [12:06] Action: The-Croupier is bad with terminology [12:06] i haven't been paying attention, what is "such a thing?" [12:07] ah, close ports? [12:08] if it is Linux then I would look for iptables [12:08] busybox i think only has netstat [12:09] something else could have possible been installed, though [12:09] it is linux montavista something didnt get much [12:09] spook, yeah. raising elephants..... [12:09] i had a look around and i saw that iptables -L generated some rules as well [12:10] spook, alt+sysrq+o is very much fun. triggers the OOM killer. [12:11] iptables have to drop packets to specific ports :( i think it might work :( [12:11] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [12:12] which ports? [12:12] 22 for ssh for example ;) [12:12] The-Croupier, in general, it's best to set iptables policy to DROP everything, and then allow specific ports :) [12:12] why not just stop and disable the sshd service? [12:13] e2718: because its enabled in the router [12:13] i wouldnt mind that either [12:13] that would be best imho [12:13] if a router defaults to drop everything then it will break protocols that use random ports, like FTP [12:14] i can't find a way to see what commands are passed by ssh [12:15] hmmm...ill have a look maybe i can find a way to remove the services i dont like from the linux in this router... there might be a services file ;) [12:15] i dont know [12:16] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:16] The-Croupier: mind posting the output of the ps command? [12:18] damn the ps on the router worked [12:18] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [12:18] Azeotrope: so install a keylogger and tail the output log [12:19] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:19] keylogger [12:19] i want to see what commands are passed by the ssh client [12:19] Azeotrope: or learn to install the stuff yourself [12:19] there are init, config.xml dprox.conf -d, snmpd, udhcpd.conf pppd, upnpd msntp...etc [12:19] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@92.250.10.167) joined ##slackware. [12:20] raela: i bet it woul'd take a few hrs for you too... [12:20] Azeotrope: difference is, I'd do it myself [12:20] to install this [12:21] i'd do it too, but i'm kinda blind [12:21] right. [12:22] bleh [12:22] e2718 (ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [12:24] LnxSlck_ (LnxSlck@92.250.113.208) joined ##slackware. [12:25] ... [12:25] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:25] slackaholic (1000@187-25-148-214.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:25] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:26] toffee (~toffee@122-124-131-250.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:54] question, i can kill services in the router... is there a way to permanently disable them via telnet [12:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:57] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:58] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [13:00] fsilva (~fsilva@189.26.5.179.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:04] chasmo77 (~chas@69.4.142.4) joined ##slackware. [13:10] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.31) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [13:12] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [13:15] Nick change: vldmr -> AbsTradELic [13:20] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:20] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-195-186.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:21] Kaapa (~Something@bl5-180-37.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:23] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [13:23] hitest (~George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:26] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-59-177.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:27] nepper (~furb@189.31.116.2) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.6 -- Are we there yet? [13:28] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-69-52.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:31] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:37] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0DE74.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Does anyone know how to get inkscape(1) working on -current? [13:40] You'll need some gtk extras like gtkmm. [13:40] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0DE74.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:41] think all the dependencies are on slackbuilds [13:42] You'll need updated versions of the gtk stuff. [13:42] amazon10x: Yes, it was working well before upgrading to -current. 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[13:58] Is there a solution to solve the LILO - Keytable read/checksum error [13:58] also, i heard that to get inkscape working you have to stop changing the program's name to inkscape(1) [13:59] lem1, explain please [13:59] I've update to slackware-current during booting I get that message... [14:00] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.46.97) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:00] lem1, pastebin your lilo.conf [14:00] better yet, how can I have xvkbd launch so I can log in with it? [14:01] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [14:01] where is everyone :( [14:01] I'm trying to boot and mount the system first ... [14:01] good luck ;) [14:02] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] I boot my slackware for some reason wont boot anymore [14:03] its giving me an error [14:04] Loading LinuxEBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage [14:04] aenima1577g (~aenima157@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:04] I'm checking lilo.conf with my second PC running slackware also... [14:04] good [14:05] aenima1577g (~aenima157@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:05] and i didnt upgrade the kernel. [14:05] last thing i did...was update kde. [14:05] crashdata, I got that error after upgrading the kernel. Forced me to do a complete reinstall [14:05] but even then i was able to reboot [14:05] ohh but i didnt upgrade the kernel [14:06] there is no way to fix this? [14:06] oh wow. [14:06] yah...so weird.. [14:06] do you use the generic kernel? [14:07] google for : slackware rescue [14:08] thrice` i just use the default... [14:08] i'll try to google slackware rescue [14:10] default kernel would probably the one label huge? [14:10] hugesmp.s [14:10] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [14:12] Axius (~hi@92.84.11.85) joined ##slackware. [14:13] is there a way to boot my system if i insert the CD? [14:13] do you know which device your root is on? [14:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:13] i think its /dev/hda1 [14:14] cfdisk -l ;) [14:14] then, at the boot prompt, enter: hugesmp.s root=/dev/hda1 rdinit= ro [14:14] (with the CD inserted) [14:15] JonnyV (~jonny@190.227.138.43) joined ##slackware. [14:15] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:17] thanks [14:17] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [14:18] you're welcome. did it work? [14:18] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:20] gonna try now.. [14:23] good luck! [14:23] rbellamy (~rbellamy@adsl-69-105-233-172.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] thanks [14:24] evanton (~lol@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [14:24] it was on /dev/sda2 [14:24] lolz [14:24] i'm in :) [14:25] Does anybody know a way to record for further replaying a slackware install process? I know about autoexpect but I wonder if there's something slackware-specific for this [14:26] it worked now..i just rerun lilo [14:26] no more error message [14:26] jim_james (~swwww@212.183.140.55) joined ##slackware. [14:26] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Quit: argh.ghadjhkajs hg [14:26] chasmo77 thanks for the help [14:27] evanton: you can use tagfiles if you customized the package selection for example. [14:27] installing slackware with tagfiles takes me < 5 mins [14:29] the menu is about as simple [14:30] just tic boxes and away it goes and is always current [14:31] now if i was gonna build a couple of boxes at once, i'd use tagfiles [14:32] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: [14:34] Skywise, How did you install slack with tagfiles? [14:34] can you d/load current iso or only use slackpkg ? [14:35] ShKoDrAnI (~Ardit@95.107.196.109) joined ##slackware. [14:35] the easiest way is to install from a partition or nfs, rather then a dvd, but the tagfiles don't have to be with the source, its just that they typically are [14:35] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:36] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. 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[14:45] Skywise, In each series I have two files: tagfile and tagfile.org I dont know if will ever work for me. [14:46] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-69-33.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] thats how it should be done, you can edit the tagfile and then # out what you don't want [14:47] and you need to only use add or skp don't use rec or opt because those 2 options require responding to a prompt [14:49] I undestand how it should work. [14:49] great, you know theres even a script to generate tagfiles based on your current setup [14:51] Skywise, I've used alienbob's script to make that usb tagfile. [14:52] time and time again, alienbob is so useful [14:53] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:56] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.46.97) joined ##slackware. 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[15:31] user* [15:31] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:33] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-183.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] jim_james: Yes. Do note that you have to log all the way out, then back in after adding the user (restarting is the simplest way of ensuring this happens.) [15:35] yep [15:35] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.46.97) joined ##slackware. [15:36] ty [15:36] it only automounts with xfce and kde ? [15:36] hm. Does "texinfo2man" ever work at all for anyone? [15:37] jim_james: Anything that has an automounter that interacts with hal. [15:37] ive not tried automount with slackware [15:38] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Nick change: TorrentOw -> hakierT0rr3n7ow [15:39] Nick change: hakierT0rr3n7ow -> Torrentow [15:39] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet. [15:40] rizitis (rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:42] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.19.81) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:43] $ texinfo2man --help [15:43] Segmentation fault [15:43] on both 32-bit and 64-bit 13.0 [15:44] Action: eviljames confirms on 64-bit current [15:44] (also segfaults if I replace the --help with any filename, whether or not it's a texinfo file...) [15:45] or with no argument at all. Maddening, 'cause it looks like it should do exactly what I want (I got a .texi file, I want a man page...) [15:47] Urchlay: segfaults here as well... But I don't use it :) [15:48] well I just now tried to use it for the first time... [15:48] It's from the indent package, that hasn't been updated in a while (at least not since 13.0) [15:48] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:49] And it also segfaults in 13.0 stable (just checked) [15:50] well... maybe I'll look into it later... off to a party now... [15:54] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:55] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:57] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:58] ron1n (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:59] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:59] hi guys [15:59] hi [15:59] anyone ever mucked with 'unbound'? [15:59] I'm trying to set up a local dns zone *.home.local [15:59] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] so far unbound can resolve: router.home, router.home.local, but not router by itself. [16:01] o no wait, *.home.local can't be resolved. [16:01] but *.home can be. [16:02] ugh, some can be resolved and some can't... [16:03] http://pastebin.com/vQuKzWWy [16:05] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:07] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-144-194-228.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:11] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-152-48-4.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Buggaboo, the local zone should be "home", not "local" ? [16:14] slackaholic (1000@187-24-139-85.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[16:32] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.46.97) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:32] Urchlay: (regarding texinfo2man) It's not a bug, it's a feature. It needs 2 arguments and crashes if you don't give them. :) [16:33] Just took a look at the source... [16:33] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.109.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:33] No help text either. [16:37] Urchlay: There is an example in the indent.SlackBuild how to use texinfo2man: "texinfo2man ./indent.1.in ./../doc/indent.texinfo > indent.1" [16:37] Razec (1000@187-27-200-41.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:38] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number [16:38] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number [16:39] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:39] waabimiigwan (~steven@106-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:41] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-29-19.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:42] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) joined ##slackware. [16:43] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [16:44] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Quit: reimaging server [16:45] righteous_ (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] stunix (1000@85.19.141.194) joined ##slackware. [16:47] LucMove (~Luc_On_Th@189.102.169.237) joined ##slackware. [16:47] yarvin (~yarvinmor@155-197-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:48] Hi. Can someone please tell me what packages are required for compiling source on Slack 13? My box is missing something, I can't figure out what. [16:48] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.109.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:48] righteous__ (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:48] kethry (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number [16:50] LucMove: do a full installation of Slackware. If you have no clue what you need and what you don't, you should not try to use a stripped system for compiling software [16:50] kethry (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [16:50] flapz (~RahmboDea@70.44.72.133.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] hi [16:51] alienBOB: not what I asked. Please read again. [16:51] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] wrote a somewhat computationaly math rigorous program in C++ (combinitorics). Every time I run the program it consumes disk space and it's not returned when the program is over. I delete my dynamic arrays but they're only 8 elements. Where is the disk space hogged? [16:51] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:51] it's not in /tmp [16:55] iAVOR (~ppcanfly@unaffiliated/iavor) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:56] alienBOB: how can i see a ssh client's commands onto the server? [16:58] Azeotrope: as long as the command is executing, it will be visible in a process listing [16:59] LucMove: then write the question more clearly [16:59] LucMove: What you need to install depends on what you are trying to compile and what errors you get. [16:59] LucMove: We're not mind readers. Given so little information, alineBOB's advice is 100% accurate :-) [17:00] I'm letting unknown people to ssh in my workstation and install /config things for me. [17:00] *cringes* [17:00] .... [17:00] Azeotrope: say what? [17:00] Azeotrope: that is very stupid [17:00] i know but I have no option [17:01] Why? Explain [17:01] Yes, sure. If I install a minimally minimal Slackware 13 box, plus GCC, will it be able to compile source? Probably not. Then, what other packages are the most commonly required ones? [17:01] LucMove: yes, gcc can compile source code. [17:01] What other packages are the most commonly required ones? [17:01] LucMove: well that would depend on what you are trying to install/compile. [17:01] LucMove: But you likely need development headers. [17:01] i was fighting with the hostapd and ath5k drivers thing for 3 weeks [17:01] What headers you need depends on what you are trying to install. [17:02] The most commonly required ones are *everything* :-) [17:02] qmail-local.c:469: warning: return type of 'main' is not 'int' [17:03] Besides, I doubt anyone here has taken a poll to see what the most commonly compiled program is or what the most commonly needed headers are. [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-130.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] lol - djb lovin [17:03] Sounds like a non-fatal warning to me. [17:04] There are 20 lines of output. Most google search results focus on th line and recommend installing additional compilation tools. [17:04] how can i see the commands running? [17:04] that line [17:04] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Azeotrope: don't do that. Really. [17:05] does linux generate any files when it nees resources? [17:05] such as space [17:06] wrote a somewhat computationaly math rigorous program in C++ (combinitorics). Every time I run the program it consumes disk space and it's not returned when the program is over. I delete my dynamic arrays but they're only 8 elements. Where is the disk space hogged? I must free it. [17:06] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] i'm doing it in the last 10 hrs [17:06] flapz: looks like a C++ issue to me. Not all Slackware users are well versed in C [17:07] well I'm not writing to a file. [17:07] thought it was a resources issue. [17:07] iAVOR (~ppcanfly@unaffiliated/iavor) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Is it in /var/log ? [17:07] it could be, but other C programmers will have to know that [17:07] or /tmp perhaps? [17:08] well /tmp is constant before and after I run the program [17:08] Azeotrope: why is someone else logging into your computer/system? [17:08] what relevent file under /var/log ? [17:08] to help me with my wireless issues [17:09] flapz: I don't have the answers. I am suggesting you look for a C programming room. I program too, not in C, and I go to the specific chat room whenever I have difficulties with that language. [17:10] Azeotrope: I understand. But what you're doing is extremely dangerous. [17:10] what if the guy hacks FBI? [17:10] yea [17:10] you should NEVER let a stranger have access to your machine. Heck, not even friends. [17:10] Azeotrope: then he is hired [17:10] try it [17:11] with a 15 yrs contract. exclusive one [17:11] Azeotrope: ideally, you should format that box, reinstall and start over. [17:11] flapz: du -sh each of the top-level directories to see how much space they take up. /home may be large, /usr should be. Anything else is suspect. [17:11] yea, after i understand it [17:12] thanx folks [17:12] cat malware be hidden some other places? i have a partition i don't want to format [17:12] I can't tell which specific log may be filling up disk space. [17:12] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:12] Azeotrope: what is in that partition? [17:12] just personal data? [17:12] like pictures or documents? [17:13] no, downloads [17:13] torrents [17:13] movies, music, pdf, some .img and .iso files [17:13] hmm /var is only 99M [17:13] any programs? executables? [17:14] no [17:14] ok, that is safe [17:14] also my vbox hdd's [17:14] Azeotrope: just out of sheer curiosity .. why do you want to use linux? [17:14] unfinished downloads are safe too in case of torrents [17:15] BP{k}: security? [17:15] Azeotrope: Don't make laugh. [17:15] you're defeating that purpose, Azeotrope [17:15] Azeotrope: considering you already admitted giving people who you don't know access to your systems ... [17:15] Azeotrope: I assume you have given these unknown people root access as well? [17:16] yea... but i had no other way to learn [17:16] yes [17:16] Azeotrope: bollox. [17:16] root [17:16] This is not learning... this is idiocy [17:16] thank you [17:16] Azeotrope: are you running Slackware on that box? [17:16] yes [17:16] Azeotrope: in all these months in this channel, I have not seen one shred evidence that you actually manage to learn anything. [17:16] Rip out the LAN cable, format / and re-install Slackware. Then come back and we will sort the wireless out [17:16] flapz: if the disk space is going out, maybe a core is dumped? [17:17] BP{k}: how's that? i learned plenty [17:18] Don't give up, Azeotrope. Linux is tough and IRC people are harsh, but you are on the right path. [17:19] Azeotrope: Well, I rather take evidence than your say so. [17:19] (irc people can stop being harsh) [17:19] hehe [17:19] (this is why people say that Linux users are elitists) [17:19] jim_james (~swwww@212.183.140.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:20] harsh is giving folks (strangers) access to a box. [17:20] slackware users are not elitists [17:20] what's the worst can happen? [17:20] Azeotrope: if you think you trust that person and they really want to help, you can ask them to run the 'script' command before doing anything. Check 'man script'. Then you save a copy of that output out of your box and keep it as a reference. But, once, the whole thing is done, format the box and reinstall. [17:21] I might be harsh but you ugly and i can be nice in the morning... [17:21] LucMove: he did so [17:21] evanton, never said that, just pointing out that harsh people on irc (in general, not necessarily in here) give us an elitist reputation [17:21] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:21] LucMove: and what stops anyone from running a second login session and doing whatever :P [17:21] Azeotrope: that's about all you can count on. There's no other way to monitor their activity. [17:22] Well, there is, but it would involve complicated methods. forget it [17:22] yea. but so far it seems trustworthy [17:22] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:22] I told Azeotrope: But, once, the whole thing is done, format the box and reinstall. [17:22] anyone remember the hosts name of the GONG show? :P [17:23] you gonna hit the gong? [17:23] chopp [17:23] Delahunt: point is that there are some very smart people who can also be qualified as harsh. those guys are treasures for newbies who manage to collect wisdom from them and at the same time dodge their rants :) [17:23] i had that in mind from the beggining. but what about things done during the time it's ssh in? what harm can be done? [17:23] mancha: indeed. [17:23] chopp Chuck Barris [17:23] i wanna be the host of the 21st century version: the BONG show [17:23] no data theft, i erased evrything [17:24] Azeotrope [17:24] Azeotrope: do you understand? Let the person do their stuff, log the entire session with script, keep that document if you really think you can learn anything from it, but then format the box. That machine cannot be trusted anymore. [17:24] LucMove: the best way to find out if any package is missing for compiling programs, is looking carefully at the "config.log" file in the build directory. Any missing program would likely be mentioned right next to the error [17:24] xchg (~xchg@nat-84-16-60-106.extel.sk) joined ##slackware. [17:24] hi [17:24] or only compile programs/applications made by intelligent devs who specify their requirements [17:25] anobody succefully running frets on fire on slackware? [17:25] evanton, but that doesn't justify them being harsh [17:25] xchg: It likes to crash on me. [17:25] Azeotrope: ALL harm can be done. You name it. [17:25] jkwood: yes, the numpy "data type" error :/ [17:25] chopp you asked a question and you dont tell us why? [17:25] and ironically being abrasive discourages others from asking you questions, so that treasure trove of knowledge sits idle [17:26] i want my pixels back [17:26] Azeotrope: remember that "partition with stuff you didn't want to loose"? .. .someone could make you loose it.. [17:26] folks, if you autotools your apps, how goddamn tough is making a proper INSTALL (with requirements) and an uninstall target on the makefile? [17:26] Quiznos: beat it. [17:26] Delahunt: persistent people still manage to find answers to their questions, no matter what [17:26] mancha i hate auto* but some people ARE That lazy to finish the job [17:26] you'd think this is a no-brainer, but NO.....so many dysfunctional pakcgaes are out there...makes you wonder [17:26] chopp i answered your q [17:26] alienBOB: there is no config.log file here. [17:26] mancha the pkgs arent dysfuntional, the authors are [17:27] BP{k}: i'm not talking about things i know, i anticipate. I'm asking about others. Like moving a NSA sattelite near China or so [17:27] Azeotrope: you saw too much movies I guess [17:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:27] like hackers [17:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:28] not really. kiddie pr0n would be bad [17:28] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-68-122.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [17:28] sending a threat e-mail to white house would be bad [17:28] evanton, or give up [17:28] evanton: harsh people ain't smart. Smart people know better than being rude or condescending. [17:28] they would ignore it if they read "azeotrope" in it [17:29] ... [17:29] LucMove: if somebody looks like acting harsh, it might be because he already was nice to 100 persons that day before you. so it's not fair to blame just one side [17:30] I think the golden rule is "I'll try to do most myself, I'll really try that hard, and I'll ask other people only when I'm really stuck" [17:30] did you ever google an answer for somebody? I guess everyone did [17:30] freakin awesome. i do understand it's a foolish thing but i was in here for 2 weeks asking how can I use my wifi card as an AP. [17:31] ideally that must not happen [17:31] s/ask other people/ask other people for directions/ [17:31] if you think you've been to too many people for today, go away or shut up. No one is forcing anyone to answer. [17:31] john_dee (~id@93-81-71-130.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:31] CORRECTION: if you think you've been nice to too many people for today, go away or shut up. No one is forcing anyone to answer. [17:32] this is an eternal subject :) [17:32] isn't it? [17:32] "Remember when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?" (c) [17:33] LucMove, the problem is the people that come in and ask " how do I mount a drive?" rather than " I tried mounting a drive with '....' but I get error ',,,;" [17:33] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:34] alisonken1home: good point, neglecting ESR's paper about asking questions the right way [17:34] The problem is that nobody is born already knowing that stuff. That is the real problem, and it's not their fault. [17:34] even s/the right way/the way linux users are used to/ [17:34] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] LucMove, no - but they obviously know how to read - since they logged on here - yet they don't know how to read the tutorial or even google for an answer first [17:35] psychonautlibIII (~chatzilla@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:35] zebra: http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE5973NV20091008 [17:35] well, teach them -- politely [17:35] goarilla (~goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:35] I would advice all new linux users to join an open-source mailing list and just follow it for a couple of months of a daily basis [17:35] psychonautlibIII (~chatzilla@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Client Quit [17:35] goarilla (~goarilla@126.83-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [17:36] LucMove, that works - until the same person asks "how do I .." again for the 20th time [17:36] thats life :) [17:36] just stay quiet and see how software is crafted, how people do things together and how they stick to the point when asking questions [17:36] john_dee (~id@93-81-143-74.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:37] alisonken1home: actually, there is no difference if the same person is asking the same for the 20th time or 20 persons ask one time each the same question [17:37] Well, I used to be a teacher, in a classroom, I never got tired of answering questions, including the same old tired ones. It's not like it would hurt or anything. [17:37] evanton, I was making a point for LucMove :) [17:37] alisonken1home: I'm on your side :) [17:38] How do i see all my installed packages? and compiled software? [17:38] LucMove, since we are not teachers, the issue get's to be tiresome (especially with some people that are learning imparied) [17:38] Azeotrope: slackbook .. chapter 18? [17:38] but this is something that no one has control over... [17:38] Azeotrope: ls /var/log/packages will show installed slackware packages [17:38] LucMove: most teachers get paid. If people would pay me to listen to their drivel .. sure I am more accomendating. [17:38] +10 BP{k} [17:38] You people need to realize that new people are born every day. Every day. An endless supply of fresh new human beings who don't have the experience that you have. They need to learn a lot of things that you already know. [17:38] yay! [17:38] "you people" [17:38] LucMove: they also need yto elarn how to read [17:38] LucMove: teachers keep answering the same questions, computer geeks maintain FAQs :) [17:39] Most importantly, those people arrive at the world every day. It's never gonna stop. Get over it. [17:39] LucMove: no. [17:39] 2012 ftw [17:39] LucMove, they need to learn how to find out the information they seek - then ask when there's a problem. not demand handholding [17:39] I got paid, but peanuts. That's why I don't teach anymore. [17:39] http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE5973NV20091008 <--- u guys have to check this out [17:40] man at work i train people on how to use our system....soo i have to repeat my self over and over again. [17:40] LucMove: you tell us that , yet require is to be nice to everyone who comes here... while none of us here gets paid for helping you? [17:40] crashdata: write a FAQ [17:40] crashdata: that's your job. [17:40] jfc [17:40] LucMove, like the saying goes "Feed a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime". The problem seen here is that too many people that ask questions in here are learning impaired [17:41] ^^^ [17:41] we do have FAQ and even a video tutorial but ppl are just lazy [17:41] crashdata: why should that be your problem? [17:41] but not everyone... cause the boss wants everyone happy [17:41] teachers are to help, not to push [17:41] Being paid or not is irrelevant. If you don't like the conditions, don't do it. It's simple: you either help people or excuse yourself and turn away. That far, it's fair. Once you are rude, it's not fair anymore. No one is forcing you. [17:41] i guess my point is you just have to learn to live with it [17:41] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] LucMove, i agree [17:42] wait .. we can only be here if we promise to help people? [17:42] Action: BP{k} never saw that in the rules :| [17:42] Action: alisonken1home still looking for official #slackware :) [17:42] nobody said "rules". Don't be specious. [17:43] righteous_ (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:43] i guess if u dont like to answer the same question u can just choose to ignore [17:43] it's just common courtesy. You are not forced to help anyone, that's all I'm saying. But I do think you don't have the right to be rude. [17:43] if the questions annoy you, ignore them [17:43] agreed [17:44] crashdata: maybe people are lazy, or maybe they employ their entire personal "capacity" on minding other things. [17:44] there is an awful lot of information out there for us to cope with. We can only manage so much. [17:45] LucMove: I'm trying to imagine how would your statement about the right to be rude in the context of that epic flamewar between RMS and Theo de Raadt [17:45] I think I missed a "be" [17:45] :-) [17:45] but I was laughing when typing, pardon [17:45] regardless to what they use their mind on to 'focus' is irrelevant. [17:46] this is an awful lot of low quality and reduntant information [17:46] that's a problem as well [17:46] did someone think linuxpackages? I did :) [17:46] majority just want everything to be spoon feed to them. [17:47] I guess I'll agree [17:47] computer guys are seen as toilet cleaners [17:47] crashdata: yep [17:47] but hey back in the late 90s #Slackware was like ubuntu forums [17:47] what files / folders i DON'T need from my /home? [17:47] linuxpackages has helped me an awful lot in the past. It's not perfect, but what is? Especially with computers... :-) [17:47] forums = channel [17:47] its actually pretty mellow here now [17:48] Azeotrope: I suggest you to create a new user account, study its home directory and make some conclusions [17:48] let's get back to Azeotrope. He needs help. Badly. [17:48] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:48] if he follows my pointer, he has chances to learn [17:49] Azeotrope, i think the question should be what folder in my home directory does what... [17:49] Azeotrope: I'd also suggest the man page for "hier", that's relevant to your question [17:49] "folders" in linux? huh? where? [17:50] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [17:50] crashdata: not really, i know most of them. i don't know what those . files are for: serverauth, xsessions.log [17:50] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:50] VICTORY! \O/ [17:50] Action: eviljames <- can now see his non-jailbroken ipod touch in amarok [17:51] yay [17:51] ??? [17:51] !!! [17:51] Azeotrope: log files can have useful log messages for you, but usually their presence is not mandatory and vital for programs to run [17:51] can it play ogg though, that the important Q [17:52] mancha: I dunno yet :P have to sync some ogg to/from :P [17:52] Azeotrope, exactly to know what those files are would answer your question if you need it [17:52] i'l save you the trouble, apple os can't play oggs [17:52] :> [17:52] hmm [17:52] lol [17:52] "can't do" is not a valid excuse for open file formats [17:52] that's evil behavior! [17:53] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [17:54] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:54] rockbox, otoh, gives you hours upon hours of seemingly endless ogg joy [17:57] Kontrol (~kvirc@host172-106-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[18:04] sheduylar, old chap [18:06] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:07] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [18:09] wow new irssi [18:09] NEW [18:09] :O [18:11] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) joined ##slackware. [18:13] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_afk [18:13] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:14] is there a way to make my aliases for the konsole stay always :)? [18:15] put them in some dotfile [18:15] .bashrc? [18:15] .bash_profile is usually a good place [18:17] mancha's answer is best actually. [18:17] Because it will depend on yoru shell, and if you want them to be for all users or just your user. [18:18] evanton (~lol@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:18] .bash_profile is a dot file ;-) [18:18] but the wrong palce if he's using say tcsh :) [18:18] ill try that :) [18:18] thanks [18:18] im using bash :) [18:18] to have them apply to all users put them in /etc/profile [18:18] People use tcsh? :-P [18:19] yup :) [18:19] only when csh is not available! [18:19] :> [18:19] who knew [18:19] and zsh and ksch and ... :) [18:19] NyteOwl: /etc/profile.d/[something] is more appropriate I think [18:19] zsh > * [18:19] i was about to say that there i no /etc/profile :) [18:19] what? you prefer a non-posix mish mash to a scripting language that tries to mimic C? [18:19] only profile.d :) [18:20] uh, you should have /etc/profile [18:20] how dare you, you noobish hdeon [18:20] hedon* [18:20] is he allowed to write into /etc/profile though? [18:20] i just saw it o.O [18:20] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-58-111.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:21] mancha: my tab button is starting to wear out from zsh completing /everything/ for me. [18:21] so what is better the /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d/.bash_profile for example ? [18:21] Actually, I use tcsh. I haven't used Bash in a long time. :-) [18:21] It tests my patience sometimes though. [18:22] People use tcsh? :-P ; Actually, I use tcsh. I haven't used Bash in a long time. :-) [18:22] nitomania [18:22] that was joke, son [18:22] that was a joke, son [18:22] iAVOR: you want your aliases to persist, you are using bash, you want it for all users? probably something like /etc/profile.d/local.sh [18:23] ~/.bash_profile iAVOR ... think about backups [18:23] I love how tcsh loses my command history every few days. And doing foreach with it is a pain. [18:23] Son... I am disappoint. [18:23] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.206.57) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:23] izapas np: Efdemin-acid bells [18:23] \o/ [18:23] ill prolly use for all users cuz when i use root and do ls i hate when there are no colors :) [18:23] last.fm + irssi = love [18:24] LucMove's got pseudomania [18:25] ShKoDrAnI (~Ardit@95.107.196.109) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:26] eviljames: do i chmod +x my profile after i make it ? [18:27] iAVOR: yes, also consider what jg71 said. [18:27] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:27] thanks :) [18:27] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.77.112) joined ##slackware. [18:30] it worked :) [18:30] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:30] thanks [18:31] ShKoDrAnI (~Ardit@95.107.196.109) joined ##slackware. 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[19:18] Nick change: wario -> niksrev [19:18] Nick change: niksrev -> wario [19:18] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.43.8) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:18] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:20] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [19:21] can someone look at my script and see what I'm doing wrong? http://dpaste.com/179177/ [19:21] I need to compile alsa-plugins as a compat32 package... can someone walk me thru how to do this? [19:22] I'm trying to get hard links into another directory using the same structure that is in the first folder [19:23] I'm basically trying to do a recursive hard link [19:25] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:26] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[19:42] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-240.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:42] i tried to source /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh and then use --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin/32 but the compile still failed, and it looked like some references to lib64/ stuff was not supposed to be there [19:42] hiptobecubic: the first is 195.36.15. not sure about last [19:42] sahk0: hmmm. i'm still getting "can't find your kernel tree" errors [19:43] hiptobecubic: do you have kernel-source installed? [19:43] well, foobarz (if you havent already) also post to mailinglists, newsgroups, forums. and dont forget to share the solution. [19:44] i run the nvidia driver, it is working on 2.6.33.1 fine, no special work required [19:44] sahk0: not running debian/fedora. I know the sources are there. [19:44] Nick change: jeagone -> jeagoss [19:45] jg71: yeah, i need to post more, not just irc... i'm not too into newgroups and stuff [19:45] heh. same here. [19:45] sahk0: actually. The sources might be the wrong sources. [19:45] sahk0: :) back in a few minutes [19:45] nice story [19:46] jescis (~irchon@166.137.9.72) joined ##slackware. [19:47] sahk0: i apparently stopped in the middle of a kernel upgrade last week. Sources were for 33.1 and i'm running 33 ^^ [19:49] sahk0: also, sorry about the deb/fed comment a minute ago. For some reason i thought i was in #nvidia instead of ##slackware [19:50] hiptobecubic: that comment saved the day. i was writing a really long reply on that :) [19:50] diven, I can't find one that's in a local store for $10 or under :-( [19:51] sahk0: lol. yes. I'm just so tired of hearing "oh that's easy bro! sudo apt-get install working-kernel" [19:52] hm. I think I will get the slackbuild for alsa-plugins and see what it does [19:52] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:52] nooper (~nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) joined ##slackware. [19:54] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. 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TIRE Y EMPUJE [20:15] jd (jd@bas1-montreal33-1279639532.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:15] jd (jd@bas1-montreal33-1279639532.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Changing host [20:15] jd (jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:15] i figured it out.. made my compat32 package [20:16] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [20:16] my problem with building alsa-plugins was that I didn't have the libsamplerate compat32 package installed [20:16] jd (jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:21] |Kernel| (~kvirc@host227-46-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:22] Matux (~58161c9c@gateway/web/freenode/x-cdnptvspirebotpt) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Kontrol (~kvirc@host172-106-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:24] bitlord (~bitlord@93.87.190.94) joined ##slackware. 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[20:43] anybody get lirc running on slackare-current? specifically, I'm looking at trying to get an hp dv5220us multimedia laptop to work with the i/r remote that came with it [20:46] jescis (~irchon@166.137.9.72) joined ##slackware. [20:46] alisonken1home, is there a manufacture's # on the rc? [20:47] dtanner (~dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [20:49] nooper (~nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:52] alisonken1home, with the remote.. I see from HP's site that some are IR only while others have an USB dongle with them [20:52] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [20:54] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [20:56] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [20:56] slackaholic (1000@187-24-139-85.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:58] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] MLanden, it's the built-in remote without the dongle [20:59] the remote is an almost credit card size that slides into a holding slot on the right of the keyboard [21:00] numbers on the remote are RC1762302/00 3139 228 50021 [21:00] HP SPS: 435743-001 [21:00] HP: HSTNN-PRO7 [21:00] in a box it also has "RC6" with the IR symbol [21:02] alisonken1home, HP dv laptop? [21:02] alisonken1home, ok...does the IR port indicate any signal coming in? [21:02] MLanden, http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/72-48713-1906/Various_Item_HP_Common_Item__HP_.html <-- picture of remote [21:02] That remote? [21:02] yes [21:03] It acts like an extension of the keyboard, not a real IR device. [21:03] Action: Motoko-chan has one [21:06] ok - how to get it to work :) [21:07] MLanden, what driver do I need or how to get the ir port enabled? is that one of those that needs to be bios enabled first? [21:08] alisonken1home, that remote is hardwired to the keyboard. No drivers exist that i'm aware of [21:08] I use mine regularly [21:09] alisonken1home, i didn't have to do anything at all. Right out of the box the remote did whatever the corresponding keyboard button would do. Including power, volume, etc [21:10] Even better, there is nothing to differentiate one remote from the next. It was good fun sitting at the back of the auditorium in class. Turning off people's laptops... turning up the volume and starting their media player, etc etc [21:10] cool - thanks. it does work :) [21:10] wonder if xev would 'pickup' on the pressing of the button? [21:10] MLanden, the computer literally cannot tell the difference it seems [21:11] hiptobecubic, ok [21:11] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:11] Although i have yet to try it at the lilo screen or in bios. Maybe there is something happening that's higher level than that [21:11] i'm looking into something similar for my laptop's media keys. "showkey -s" picks up most of them, but when i try to set them as hotkeys in VLC, it doesn't recognize them [21:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] media keys are such a huge pain in the ass [21:12] These stupid HP "quickplay" keys either don't register at all to the kernel or register as the same key. And on top of that, it's the same key as my touchpad enable/disable button [21:12] luckily the mute and volume keys up there automatically work. but Play/Pause, Stop, Previous, and Next would be nice to use also. the Music and DVD keys aren't picked up by showkey, but those are the least important [21:13] zaltekk, does xev show them as anythign useful? [21:13] all but the music and dvd keys [21:13] show an event [21:13] jescis (~irchon@166.137.9.72) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:13] do they show a scan code or anything? [21:14] hiptobecubic: i'm not sure. i get the same output for all four keys. [21:15] zaltekk .... exactly the same? That's no god [21:15] good* [21:16] showkey gives different output for each one [21:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:18] aenima1577g (~aenima157@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:18] aenima1577g (~aenima157@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:19] goarilla (~goarilla@126.83-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:19] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [21:19] zaltekk, check this entry to a forum... http://fixunix.com/hardware/8796-demystify-behaviour-ir-remote-control.html [21:20] somethin' with keycodes vs scancodes [21:21] i think scancodes are the lowest level [21:21] yes, scancodes is what the hardware reports [21:21] fi a folder has permissions set to "0770" (drwxr-x---) then user which is in the group cannot read it, unless you do `newgroup foo` ?? 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[21:27] hiptobecubic, no...just speakin' metaphorically on gettin' the task done...sorry..:P [21:27] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.46.97) joined ##slackware. [21:27] lol [21:27] I was about to suggest ##slackware-offtopic for that type of conversation. :P [21:28] :D [21:30] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:30] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-139.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:30] hiptobecubic, with the eject button on the remote,were you able to keymap to the eject command or trouble with HAL? [21:30] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:31] MLanden, mine doesn't have eject [21:31] http://img.2ememain.be/f/normal/64941833_4-hp-pavilion-dv6000-special-edition.jpg [21:32] unless that circle arrow at the top is supposed to be eject [21:32] If it is, then no it's not going to work. That is one of the 'quickplay' keys that i can't get to operate properly at all [21:33] that looks like a key to toggle repeat [21:33] hiptobecubic, the 'power' button...that would be an acpi call perhaps [21:34] wondering if the windows button would be picked up as a modifier key like the windows key on the keyboard [21:34] MLanden, i'm almost positive that the buttons are indifferentiable from just pressing the key on the keyboard [21:35] the power button on the remote is just like the power button on the physical chassis [21:35] hiptobecubic, ok [21:35] you should open xev and test the remote buttons [21:36] netbeacon (~netbeacon@www.snowpine.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] hiptobecubic, just hypothetically guessing...don't have that model or the remote [21:38] no, it wouldn't [21:38] on mine it says CONTROL_L for the win key on the remote [21:38] and SUPER_L for the winkey itself [21:38] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-24-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:39] i take that back [21:39] you can do chords with a mouse, but thats dependent on how its driver works [21:39] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:39] i have some mouse buttons i need to configure too [21:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:40] zhoun (~guo@218.82.96.134) joined ##slackware. [21:40] now i'm not sure what's going on here, actually. Stop and play are correctly mapped on the remote, but both next and prev are mapped to Control_L, despite the buttons being correctly mapped on the keyboard [21:40] hiptobecubic, does it pickup on multiple keys pressed on the remote? [21:40] So perhaps i was wrong. Who knows [21:41] MLanden, no it appears that all button presses register as instant press followed by release [21:41] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-139.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:41] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:41] hiptobecubic, ok [21:42] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [21:42] Hello, does anyone here know how to use samhain? [21:43] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:45] netbeacon (~netbeacon@www.snowpine.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:45] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [21:47] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] does ssh have some sort of idle timeout where you will get disconnected for not using an open connection? i don't see anything in man sshd [21:49] ClientAliveInterval [21:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] can anyone verify this? i think the angles are backwards.. http://www.satacables.com/assets/images/left-straight-right-sata-cable.jpg [21:54] john_dee (~id@93-81-143-74.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [21:54] mtkoan__ (~mtkoan@www.snowpine.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] Matux (58161c9c@gateway/web/freenode/x-cdnptvspirebotpt) left ##slackware. [21:57] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:57] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:57] mtkoan__ (~mtkoan@www.snowpine.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:57] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:58] mancha: ah, thanks. i guess i didn't do a good enough search [22:00] oh, it was because i read sshd's man and not sshd_config =/ [22:01] jescis (~irchon@166.137.9.72) joined ##slackware. [22:02] np [22:08] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426737.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [22:08] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426737.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [22:11] yarvin (~yarvin@155-197-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] zaltekk (~zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:15] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [22:22] jescis (~irchon@166.137.9.72) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:27] VitorBRz (kvirc@189.104.175.188) joined ##slackware. [22:36] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [22:37] hi guys, i just installed -current on a fresh machine with multilib, when using installpkg/upgradepkg, i get "WARNING: -e needs -E or -F" ...any idea's? it rings a bell [22:37] google says depmod [22:37] where's the -e coming from? [22:38] Lab_Rat (~lab_rat@c-67-164-44-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] Action: thrice` has never seen that one :( [22:38] i don't know [22:40] phrag, paste an example command that triggers the error [22:41] hmm, it seems to only be with a certain pkg or two i built [22:41] installpkg doesn't have such a warning in it, must be in the doinst.sh or so ? [22:42] what would be loading modules there ? i guess it has something to do with depmod / modprobe [22:42] phrag hard to say where the error is, moar better details would help [22:42] meh, could just as well be grep being silly. [22:43] yeh sorry, just tryign to fix.. thought i'd ask tho [22:43] it's with the virtualbox-kernel slackbuild and 3.1.6 [22:44] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-14-145.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:44] DareDevil0 (~Unknown@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:44] at what stage is the error spewed, when installing the package? (ie compiile worked fine)? [22:44] hmm, doinst.sh contains "chroot . /sbin/depmod -ae @KERNEL@" [22:45] probably that [22:45] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:45] what does a built-in command is [22:45] ? [22:46] has depmod changed recently? [22:48] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [22:50] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:52] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:52] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [22:56] VitorBRz (kvirc@189.104.175.188) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:56] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:57] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [22:57] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) joined ##slackware. [22:57] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Client Quit [22:58] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [23:04] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:06] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [23:07] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] The_Thing_ (~illogical@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be) joined ##slackware. [23:08] How do I start the GUI in Slackware 4.0? [23:08] lots of manual configuration of X [23:09] Slackware 4.0? [23:09] damn son, you like to use the bleeding edge stuff [23:09] :P [23:10] Naraku (1000@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] 30BAAFW8R (1000@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:10] well how do I configure the X server? [23:11] Naraku (1000@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:11] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [23:11] Nick change: 30BAAFW8R -> Naraku [23:11] The_Thing_: why are you using slackware 4? [23:11] The_Thing_, what is your video card/chip? [23:11] The_Thing_: http://blog.nielshorn.net/2008/10/older-slackware-versions-v/ [23:11] O_o zomg pingflood [23:12] MLanden: It's running in Sun Virtualbox [23:12] zaltekk: Because I've been wanting to try out KDE 1/1.1 [23:13] IIRC Slackware jumped from 3.x to 7.0 there was no Version 4 [23:15] ok, I take it back. There was a 4.0 apparently [23:15] NyteOwl's calling you a liar [23:15] i know only one way to settle this attack on your honor The_Thing [23:16] The_Thing_, from this archive http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-4.0/ ? [23:16] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Changing host [23:16] dErFz (~derf@unaffiliated/derfz) joined ##slackware. [23:16] :o yes [23:17] I got it from a different mirror... much faster to say the least [23:17] ok should be startx, to start X and xf86Config to configure - I think [23:17] Been a while (that's an 11 year old distro :) [23:17] Nick change: jeagone -> jeagoss [23:17] I get an error similar to "Could not find config file" [23:17] The_thin, so "startx" doesn't give you sugar? [23:18] nope [23:18] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:18] maybe that old version of X doesn't support thew VM's "hardware" ? [23:19] niels used vmware for his project [23:20] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:20] The_Thing_, anything from XFree86 -configure ? [23:21] back then it was xfree86 and stuff, try to configure it [23:21] command not found [23:21] Nick change: The_Thing_ -> The_Thing [23:21] what video is the vm emulating? [23:22] Action: The_Thing just screws it and downloads the livecd... xD [23:24] what livecd? [23:26] I don't know if anyone around now was around from Friday when I was having issues with mptspi. [23:26] I fixed it by using a custom kernel without aic7xxx (new and old) and pxe boot. [23:27] mancha: ? [23:29] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [23:29] The_Thing, did you install xbin.tgz from x1? [23:30] um... [23:30] Action: The_Thing 's brain explodes [23:31] lol [23:32] So how do I do that? [23:33] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [23:33] Hello! Just confirming. ktorrent comes with S13 right? [23:33] pupit (~p@91.150.106.167) joined ##slackware. [23:34] riza: yes. [23:34] BP{k}, ty! [23:37] The_Thing, how'd you install from the mirror? [23:37] Oh, I downloaded the ISO and installed it in Virtualbox [23:38] The_Thing, do you still have that iso mounted? [23:38] not at the moment, I can mount it though [23:38] alright [23:39] The_Thing, is there a folder called slakware [23:39] righteous_ (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] how do I get to that? [23:41] (Sorry, I'm only mildly familiar with Linux OS'es) [23:41] ls [23:42] hrm, i need a network monitor that recognizes IRC, HTTP, aim, et al, outputs in realtime to the tty, doesn't require X, and is easy to read. e.g. 192.168.3.111 visits google.com, it says something like "192.168.3.111:HTTP:google.com:REQ index.html" and then "google.com:HTTP:result", shows IRC, shows aim [23:43] e.g. looking for breakdowns that show origin, destination, protocol, and a little about the request [23:43] tcpdump is too verbose for that and doesn't have any protocol recognizing or packet interpretation [23:43] what am I looking for? [23:44] The_Thing, a folder called slakware...whcih iso did you download install,internal_archives or live? [23:44] install [23:45] s/whcih/which* [23:45] The_Thing, ok [23:45] How do I get to the CD directory? [23:46] Naraku (1000@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:46] The_Thing, which os are you using to run vbox? [23:46] Windows XP [23:47] righteous_: iptraf probably does some of that [23:48] ang:: kk [23:49] The_Thing, hold on ... loading 4.0 to run in VBox [23:49] Lol, you have it on hand? [23:49] no,just downloadin' it out of curiosity [23:49] Is there a way or a list of packages that default S13 comes with? [23:50] I need to verify some stuff. [23:50] righteous_: also check out http://www.wireshark.org/docs/man-pages/tshark.html -- it will do deeper packet inspection than iptraf [23:50] google doesn't seem to find it. [23:50] Just so you know, it took me a little under an hour to download it [23:50] riza, look in /var/log/packages [23:50] riza: PACKAGES.TXT and MANIFST.bz2 [23:50] yes, wireshark would be the best, but he doesn't have X apparantly [23:50] *MANIFEST [23:51] tshark is cli wireshark [23:51] (sort of) [23:51] cool [23:51] thanks,trhodes..that as well..:D [23:52] MLanden, /var/logs/packages includes a list of sbopackages that I also installed to it too. [23:52] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:53] riza, right...trhodes was correct on that one...sorry [23:53] <:) [23:54] i really need to figure out file's magic number format, i get tired of slackware packages bein' called quake I or II world files [23:54] trhodes, http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/PACKAGES.TXT Thanks! [23:54] maybe PACK won't conflict with PACKAGE NAME [23:54] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. 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