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[00:08] I was moaning about video problems earlier... it must be a driver problem, because now I get ok playback in mplayer with vdpau and with opengl X composite enabled, with this config: nvidia-xconfig --custom-edid="DFP-1:/etc/X11/edid.bin" --mouse=msintellips/2 --depth 24 --no-logo --force-generate --add-argb-glx-visuals --allow-glx-with-composite --composite --damage-events --no-dynamic-twinview --flip --no-randr-rotation --render-accel --render-exte [00:08] nsion --no-rotate --no-sli --no-twinview --use-events --no-xinerama [00:08] tavl_ (~tavl@189.70.182.219) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:09] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.147.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:09] now I have to see if games work... I think damage events used to be a problem [00:10] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:11] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.147.44) joined ##slackware. [00:12] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.175) joined ##slackware. [00:15] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-39.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.147.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:18] KaMii: i got something you may like for your palm pilot [00:18] KaMii: sunrise' [00:19] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.147.44) joined ##slackware. [00:22] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:23] Does anyone here use the inteldrmfb driver (KMS) for framebuffer console? [00:23] Sikis (~sikis@97.107.142.142) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:23] Sikis (~sikis@97.107.142.142) joined ##slackware. [00:24] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.147.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:25] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.147.44) joined ##slackware. [00:25] Redb3ard: i am..but with the older xorg 1.6.3 [00:26] I don't have X.org installed at all. I just want a plain framebuffer console. [00:26] No idea why this isn't working. [00:26] I've got the inteldrmfb driver baked in. Now, when it boots, I get a plain black screen about halfway through the boot process. [00:26] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:27] If I turn kms off explicitly I at least get text console. [00:27] But that doesn't really help me. [00:27] Redb3ard: which intel chip? [00:27] Yeh. [00:27] The 915. An Asus Eeepc 701. [00:28] redtricycle: have you tried rworkman's newer xorg 1.8? [00:29] whoops...redb3ard* [00:30] I don't want X. [00:30] I can't use it, it's worthless. [00:30] And I have 2 gigs to fit everything on. [00:30] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [00:30] I need a framebuffer console. [00:31] john_dee (~id@93-81-140-213.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:31] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[00:42] for some reason, i feel like i owe redb3ard an apology [00:42] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:42] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:42] and he's not even here [00:43] if one is hungry enough for the answer...then,they might be back later...never know..;) [00:44] he'll be back... [00:45] el_lobo-1d-_-b (~Juan@200.119.37.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:45] on a serious note, and with the problem(s) rirombo has been dealing with in mind, how many users are happy with the config-free xorg? [00:47] hard to say...intel's been a mess for some time and has always needed that little bit of tweaking with xorg [00:48] i've seen people dealing with problems with multiple monitors [00:48] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:48] rirombo with his mouse/touchpad [00:48] others with similar problems [00:48] \o [00:49] heya Oak [00:49] :) [00:54] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [00:56] how do you convert ^m to \n quickly? [00:57] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:58] alisonken1lap\ (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:01] nyRednek, sed -i -e 's/.$//' foo ? [01:05] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:05] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-104.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:05] how i add mod_sgci to apache on slackware? [01:09] powtrix: hey [01:10] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:10] ho [01:10] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:19] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [01:23] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-87-90.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:24] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:24] Boltsky (~bolt@cpe-76-168-252-230.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:25] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.148.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:31] I seem to have gotten into a weird situation where my /dev/sda file doesn't exist, but the disk does [01:33] /proc/partitions: [01:33] 8 0 78150744 sda [01:33] 8 1 78148161 sda1 [01:33] shonudo: If you're still around. What are the alternatives to config-less Xorg? [01:33] # ls -l /dev/sda* [01:33] /bin/ls: cannot access /dev/sda*: No such file or directory [01:33] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] any tips for where I could start looking? [01:33] shonudo: It seems to do a better job figuring out specs than my pulling things out of thin air, so to speak. [01:35] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:36] rirombo, the comment i made to mlanden had to do with hearing people having a config-free xorg that, at the end of the day, isn't really config free [01:36] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [01:36] so they end up improvising an xorg.conf [01:37] Boltsky, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [01:37] so that makes me wonder how config-free it really is [01:37] cd: /dev/disk: No such file or directory [01:38] shonudo: Ah, I see. Yes, it's not very config-free at all :) [01:39] what's the lilo append line to have the kernel use plain teeet rather than framebuffer? [01:41] vga=normal? [01:42] tabb0t (~biju@117.196.149.48) joined ##slackware. [01:42] that's a lilo option - I need the one to pass to the kernel to ignore the intel framebuffer [01:42] tabb0t (~biju@117.196.149.48) left irc: Client Quit [01:42] well, it's going to be an "append=xxxx" statement [01:42] iirc [01:43] yes, it's going to be in the append= line, but I'm looking for the parameter name for the kernel framebuffer, not the lilo bitmap [01:43] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:43] alisonken1lap\: nomode? [01:43] tabb0t (~biju@117.196.149.48) joined ##slackware. [01:44] rirombo: still here? [01:45] lfjob (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [01:45] Mornign. [01:45] Morning. [01:45] First day with the new fingers? ;-) [01:45] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] lfjob: Morning [01:45] lol >.> [01:46] Dunno if you remember this but I found this and saved it a while ago - http://www.rhisa.com/node/525 [01:46] MLanden, how are you? :) [01:46] rirombo: I just pushed a new libXi (which should be irrelevant) and a new xf86-input-synaptics (which also should be irrelevant since I didn't change anything that would affect you), but still might want to grab them. I'm curious though why you thought I should rebuild libXft. [01:46] fine,lfjob....yourself? [01:46] MLanden, just woke up, going to try to sleep again soon. [01:46] rirombo: also, can you give me *exact* repro steps for the screen corruption you're seeing? I can't repro it here [01:47] lfjob: that's me and my usual profundity ;-) [01:48] lol I love it. [01:48] lfjob: hear ya [01:49] Nick change: tabb0t -> biju [01:49] MLanden: vga=nomode ? [01:50] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:50] rirombo: there's been a lot of work on the synaptics driver, so it might would be worth your time to try a git checkout of it: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics [01:50] biju (~biju@117.196.149.48) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:53] rworkman: Is it possible to install latest input and video drivers without upgrading the rest of Xorg? [01:54] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:54] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) joined ##slackware. [01:55] alisonken1lap\: sorry..that one would've been incorrect [01:56] rworkman: And I have no convincing reason for updaing libXft; just thought the text messing up might have something to do with fonts, ergo look at font libraries [01:56] MLanden: ok [01:56] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:56] shonudo: ok - looks like vga=normal worked finally. last time I tried that either I missed a step or had it incorrect [01:57] good deal alisonken1lap\ ... makes sense [01:59] oh wow [01:59] I think I figured out why my /dev isn't working [01:59] however, "append = 'vga=nromal'" returns "Fatal: APPEND or LITERAL may not contain "vga="" [02:00] apparently my custom kernel has only about half of the requirements listed by http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=blob;hb=HEAD;f=README [02:00] lilo has it's moments [02:00] alisonken1lap\: cool to hear normal works...thought there was a nomode option for append or directly to vga,but looks like not [02:00] john_dee (~id@95-29-187-141.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [02:01] rworkman: And as far as reproducing it.. I'm having a little problem with that right now :\ [02:01] rirombo: yes, you should be able to build them yourself. Before you do that though, I'd still like to know exactly how to repro this [02:01] Oh? As in, it works right now? [02:02] MLanden: except vga=normal in lilo.conf only affects the initial boot - as soon as the kernel loads and starts initializing, it still goes into vga mode [02:02] rworkman: I deinstalled and reinstalled the updated Xorg packages from your repo, and either it fixed things outright or made it much less promiment. [02:03] Weird [02:03] rworkman: I'm still trying things that used to cause the messups, but so far only xfontsel is misbehaving a little [02:03] I thought so too [02:03] on boot: "Console: switching to color frame buffer device 240x67" [02:03] rirombo: what does xfontsel do? It seems fine here [02:03] 8 [02:03] er, oops [02:04] alisonken1lap\ : i have append="apgart=off" on mine... i would expect append="vga=normal" to work [02:04] go figure [02:04] shonudo: however, lilo reports "FATAL: append may not contain vga=" [02:05] yeah, go figure [02:05] lilo does have its moments [02:05] I'll try the agpgart=off [02:05] i'm using that to force nvidia, btw [02:06] I've got a supported intel on the dell studio, but with X running and eyecandy enabled in kde (composite on, cube animation) as soon as the busycursror starts indicating a program launch X gets killed [02:07] inteldrmfb might be the problem [02:07] rworkman: xfontsel doesn't update the screen properly. I.e. when I show the list of fonts and select certain ones, the list remains partly displayed until I switch windows or what not to cause it to redraw itself. [02:07] alisonken1lap\: did you compile the kernel with KMS? can you add i915.modeset=0 to append in lilo? [02:07] MLanden: stock slackware (tried both 32-bit and slack64) [02:08] what sucks is it worked fine until I did a slackpkg upgrade - and I think it may have been an issue where 32-bit was installed but X 64-bit may have been upgraded [02:08] rworkman: Also, when I start it, portions of the window "underneath" show through, so to speak. Once again, until redraw. [02:08] alisonken1lap\: ok [02:09] boojit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:09] rirombo: that doesn't happen here. What's the graphics ghipset? [02:09] and now after doing formatted reinstalls, it busycursor kills X [02:09] still [02:09] rirombo, didn't you have the same problem as alisonken1lap\, or was that someone else? [02:09] Interesting. [02:09] boojit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [02:10] MLanden: i915.modeset works for not using fb mode - thanks [02:10] rworkman: Intel 945GME, rev03 [02:11] rworkman: Seems like it's mostly non-western fonts, like AR PL UMing [02:11] rirombo: are you still on the 13.1 kernel? Also, what's your LANG setting (I don't htink it's relevant, but who knows)? [02:12] rworkman: xfontsel shows warnings like "Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion" and "Unable to load any usable fontset" [02:12] alisonken1lap\: cool [02:12] shonudo: I don't remember seeing others have the same problem [02:12] rirombo, i thought you had a problem after upgrading x [02:13] shonudo: Yes, I did/do [02:13] MLanden: of course, X dies with "Intel: no kernel mode setting driver detected" followed with "Screens found , but none have a useable cofniguration" [02:15] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:16] It seems that the AR PL fonts aren't displayed at all, actually. [02:16] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5A64.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] ryuranger (~tmsuarez@187.7.99.201) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:19] alisonken1lap\: ok...that's a can of worms [02:19] yep [02:20] Nick change: alisonken1lap\ -> alisonken1lap [02:21] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:21] rworkman: sorry, missed your question. Yes, still 13.1 kernel and LANG is en_US.utf8 [02:22] LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.utf8 [02:22] MLanden: the interesting part is that it works fine as long as busycursors aren't used - but the settings shortcut in favorites won't let you unset the busycursor option [02:22] so trying to change display settings kills X [02:23] rirombo: okay, I recall lots of fixes re those chipsets ; probably you should try a newer kernel. Latest 2.6.33.x for sure, but I'd even shoot for 2.6.34.2 [02:24] alisonken1lap: weird...dbus call? [02:24] not sure [02:24] it only appears to happen in kde4 and busycursors now [02:24] rworkman: Okay, will do. [02:26] rworkman: And BTW, some of the screen updating issues reappeared in emacs. [02:26] Hard to reproduce though :\ Switching from erc buffer to w3m buffer, for example, left some lines from erc buffer on the screen. [02:28] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [02:29] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:30] AkiraYB_ (~FarSeer@201-92-71-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:32] john_dee (~id@95-29-187-141.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:32] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:32] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-43-232-190.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:33] Nick change: lfjob -> risah [02:36] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-166.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:36] Boltsky (bolt@cpe-76-168-252-230.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. 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[03:38] Tuna! :D [03:39] Action: risah hugs byteframe. [03:39] I need a job. [03:40] Me too! [03:41] Me three [03:41] but not just any job [03:42] I need a job of all jobs, I want to make electronical cars that fly into space [03:43] I wont to be a computer monkey who can wear a t-shirt. [03:43] want* [03:43] I have an IPv6 shirt. [03:43] From HE. [03:44] I had a nice cafepress slackware blue 's' shirt I trashed. [03:44] I usually wear something a bit nicer to work, however. [03:44] Action: Motoko-chan had to dress up today because of a meeting with a client [03:45] well most people don't have the time or pacticians to slik screen anymore [03:45] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4541, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-07-27 04:39:13 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:46] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5A64.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] should of asked him if he show'd up..... [03:48] ok - kde4 launch feedback is killing X when eyecandy is enabled on i915 (Dell Studio Laptop) - but only on some programs (like System Settings and Firefox) [03:48] archcezar (1000@aes160.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:49] When I disable launch feedback, all programs appear to work fine [03:49] or X doesn't die rather [03:50] archcezar (1000@bfh42.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:50] alisonken1lap: when you disable launch feedback,are you able to change the settings to the cursor? [03:53] MLanden: change cursor settings how? I just went into menu editor and unchecked launch feedback for that shortcut [03:54] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:54] alisonken1lap: ok...sorry [03:56] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:57] forgot one has to be enabled to change the settings [04:01] coxeter (biju@117.196.149.48) left ##slackware. [04:03] so try to change the busy cursor type? [04:03] and see if it still kills X? [04:03] alisonken1lap: will it allow you to? [04:07] skinder (~skinder@87.228.25.170) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:07] the funny part is some programs will kill X when launch feedback is enables [04:07] firefox being one - however, pidgin doesn't kill X when launch feedback is enables [04:07] enabled [04:08] wonder why that is... [04:08] skinder (~skinder@87.228.25.170) joined ##slackware. [04:08] doesn't really make sense [04:08] tell me about it [04:08] konq does it as well [04:09] weird [04:11] Nick change: risah -> rhisadotcom [04:13] and thunderbird is fine also [04:17] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [04:18] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:19] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:20] well, let me check thunderbird again [04:20] I didn't have eyecandy endabled for that check [04:20] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [04:20] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:21] ok - thunderbird killed it also [04:21] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-69-167.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:21] kate is fine [04:22] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:22] and pidgin now kills it also [04:24] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-69-167.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [04:24] alisonken1lap: any web apps from the console(i.e. irssi,links)? [04:26] lynx and links [04:26] just default slack [04:28] meant to say, Do either of those apps kill X as well when opened in KDE4? [04:28] create a shortcut for it first, or from a terminal? [04:29] alisonken1lap: try from the terminal 1st [04:29] Morn [04:29] morning [04:31] arnis (~arnis@62.122.16.30) joined ##slackware. [04:32] let me reenable eyecandy first [04:33] links works fine [04:34] ok [04:35] at least when terminal is opened first [04:36] trying to create a shortcut now [04:36] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-39.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [04:36] Compiling the kernel on an Atom n270 CPU is definitely a new experience in patience... [04:37] rirombo: 2.6.35? [04:37] No, 2.6.34.2 [04:37] rirombo, don't compile a kernel on a laptop. D: [04:37] Alas, don't really have much choice in the matter. [04:38] configuring an iMac to cross-compile would be much too painful [04:40] rirombo: compiling with the laptop using AC power? [04:40] Yes :) [04:41] MLanden: ok - gonna boot slax live cd and see what it does [04:41] alisonken1lap: alright [04:42] Action: rirombo is up to drivers/media/dvb after about two hours. [04:43] I wonder if it would be more efficient to ^C and instead of using generic .config, only include what I actually need. [04:43] reminds me of compiling on a 486 [04:43] rirombo: cool...almost to the peak of the mountain...;) [04:43] It does indeed feel that way. [04:44] oy [04:47] well, slax doesn't work at all [04:47] no X [04:47] but then again, slax is 32-bit and this is x86_64 quad core machine [04:48] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [04:49] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.94) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:50] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [04:52] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:53] rhisadotcom (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: rhisadotcom [04:54] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [04:55] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[05:27] actually, slackpkg upgrade-all [05:28] alisonken1lap: meh [05:32] Axius (~fd@109.97.51.113) joined ##slackware. [05:34] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:38] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:38] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:42] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:46] not sure if it's related since I updated to -current, but changing compositing type from opengl to xrender means launcher feedback doesn't kill X [05:46] of course, I lose my eye candy that I want with that as well :) [05:46] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:03] There you will find the almighty pink pig of peril who will advise you how to handle mplayer [06:05] and don't forget the virgin goat sacrifice [06:05] pshh... thats just make believe [06:06] Axius: what did you add to the menu? just 'mplayer'? [06:06] get (~celingest@unaffiliated/get) joined ##slackware. [06:07] hi all [06:09] sahko: I've added this: [exec] (mplayer) {xterm -e mplayer} [06:10] sahko: I have only the cli mplayer. [06:10] did you compile it yourself? [06:10] sahko: yes [06:10] Holy cow! Mplayer just played a video! [06:11] O_o [06:11] The cow part is that this all happened in the console O.o [06:11] one would expect that from mplayer I'd say [06:11] ah, found aalib ? [06:12] Axius: executing mplayer just prints the commandline arguments. it should be accompanied by a filename me thinks [06:12] brb [06:12] I thought aalib was supposed to make ASCII art. That distinctly did not look like any ASCII art I've seen. [06:13] Must be SDL or some such, except I never bothered configuring it. [06:14] sahko: How do I add the parameters? [06:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:17] Axius: i dont think you can do what you want without a graphical mplayer frontend. i might be wrong though [06:19] SOUL_OF_R00T (~2010@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [06:22] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [06:22] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:22] AkiraYB_ (~FarSeer@201-92-71-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [06:23] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-71-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:24] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-14-226.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:25] or try mplayer %F [06:26] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-245-152.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:10] groo (~groo@187.101.216.237) left irc: Client Quit [07:10] not a package creator as such but it makes a slackbuild [07:10] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Client Quit [07:10] or there's src2pkg [07:11] i'll give them a try. thanks [07:12] rirombo (~user@h86.181.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) [07:18] cmk_zzz (~martink@222-155-223-160.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [07:18] Axius_ (~fd@92.82.95.179) joined ##slackware. [07:19] hello? [07:21] Axius (~fd@109.97.51.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:22] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:24] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-biiirzdjkkrtcgph) joined ##slackware. [07:25] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. 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[08:30] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.216) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:31] gtl_ (~gtl@150.162.164.216) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:31] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.216) joined ##slackware. [08:32] who are you fucks [08:32] sorry, wrong channel [08:32] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [08:33] what the hell =P [08:35] AEnima1577 (~asdfjkl@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [08:36] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [08:36] How can I have ls print each filename on a line by itself. (I need to create a file that is simply a list of files one per line at beginning of line.) [08:38] ls *.jpg > slideshow.txt works but there is * at end of each file. Oh well, I guess I can deal with that. [08:39] terry, ls -1 [08:39] Why is the * at end of each file? [08:39] Why is the * at end of each filename? [08:41] I see that rwxr-xr-x files will have * at the end of each filename, while -rw-r--r files do not. [08:41] Hummmm... [08:41] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:43] chmor -x fixes that. Ok [08:43] chmod not chmor [08:44] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:52] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:52] terry: that's an optional feature of "ls". You can make it show information about files and directories using colors or added characters (like the '*' for executable files) [08:52] Running "chmod -x" on that file does not really help... that prevents the file from running [08:57] Axius (~fd@92.82.75.237) joined ##slackware. [09:01] I get annoyed at the dirs that have the green background :P I think that's from o+x [09:01] raela: buy a black and white monitor :P [09:02] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [09:02] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.73) joined ##slackware. [09:02] BP{k}: bah.. I need the colors to feel okay with life!! after all, look at my laptop screen.. [09:02] get (~celingest@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:02] BP{k}: solution is to -x those since I only have one user, or stop chmod a+rxing everything :P [09:04] raela: that's a bad habit. [09:04] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [09:05] thumbs: yeah, I know. at least I'm not inflicting my bad habits on others, though. I'm the only one using the machines I'm on, and I didn't do it to / [09:06] vinegaroon (~sam@202.180.121.235) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:06] vinegaroon (~sam@202.180.121.235) joined ##slackware. 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[09:28] hello :) [09:28] hola [09:29] puoi dirmi come cambiare la mappatura della tastiera su blackbox please? [09:29] can you tell me how to change the keyboard mapping on blackbox please? [09:31] snakeman: bbkeys [09:31] bbkeys(1) [09:32] thanks, and to change the keyboard language? :) [09:33] use blackbox recently and are not practical... [09:36] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [09:36] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:38] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [09:38] I created logical partitions for slackware in /dev/sda4, which is an extended partition. [09:38] I installed slackware in those logical partitions. [09:38] I installed lilo on /dev/sda4. [09:39] FreeBSD boot manager could boot /dev/sda4, but grub2 can't chainload /dev/sda4. [09:39] Does anybody know why? [09:41] snakeman (~snakeman@87.19.82.168) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:43] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. 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[09:48] crocket: just out of sheer morbit curiosity, why do you choose to install the bootloader to the extended partition? [09:49] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-87-90.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:49] BP{k} : All of slackware logical partitions are in the extended partition, and it seemed neat to install it on the extended partition. [09:50] slackware is actually in logical partitions only. [09:50] FreeBSD boot manager had no problem chainloading lilo on an extended partition. [09:50] Action: pupit facepalm, a lil one, with smile and tears [09:52] Action: hitest gets a fly swatter....hunts for daemons [09:52] hitest: did it seem like a neat idea to do? ;-) [09:52] I can chainload FreeBSD in grub2. [09:53] Anyone know what the name of the framebuffer console module is? [09:53] BP{k}, I've only used lilo with Slackware and FreeBSD....never on an extended partition [09:57] Action: kryptoz is away: Gone away for now [09:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:58] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-130-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [09:59] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) joined ##slackware. [09:59] crocket: you have windows installed? [09:59] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:00] Action: kryptoz is back. [10:01] pupit : I have windows vista installed. [10:01] kryptoz: please do turn that off. We really do not care. [10:01] SigmaVirus24 (WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) left ##slackware. [10:01] kryptoz : IRC is not twitter. [10:02] Action: agentc0re goes to the bathroom....thinks of BP{k} [10:02] agentc0re: yeah baby ;) [10:04] kryptoz (~sabarish@122.167.245.108) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:04] slack3r36 (~dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) joined ##slackware. [10:05] slack3r36 (~dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) left irc: Client Quit [10:05] revel0_____ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:06] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:07] crocket: just my two sense here but from what i've seen a lot of folks always struggle with dual booting off of one drive. I would recommend using separate drives for each OS. OR, you have your MBR on /dev/sda it it boots /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda1 [10:07] (where ever your OS's are living). [10:08] agentc0re, Since I'm using a laptop, I can't put more than one drives in the computer. [10:08] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:09] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.247.101) joined ##slackware. [10:09] crocket: you say that you can make it work with freebsd chainloading lilo. If that works why use grub2? [10:10] well then i'd do my OR. and i agree with BP{k}, why use grub2 as slackware by default uses lilo as well. [10:11] revel0_____ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:12] BP{k} : using grub2 and lilo simultaneously is an easy way to implement nested bootloaders. [10:13] It's the easiest I found. [10:14] Axius (~fd@92.82.75.237) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:17] that doesn't make sense to me. afaik, you can have only one bootloader at the same time occupying the same space. [10:17] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:19] revel0_______ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:20] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [10:23] BP{k} : I have grub2 on MBR and lilo on /dev/sda4, which is an extended partition. [10:26] that's not simultaneously then. but alas, I digress. [10:26] shadowx (~slack@singularity.darknetx.eu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:26] crocket: I fail to see your problem then? you already stated that FreeBSD (which I am assuming uses grub2) can boot lilo. [10:26] FreeBSD boot manager is not grub2. [10:27] FreeBSD boot manager is a text-only boot manager. [10:27] crocket: have you read the article i linked you? [10:27] Action: BP{k} just walks away. [10:27] this is not worth loosing my sanity over. [10:28] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:29] void_16 (~void_16@120.162.227.157) joined ##slackware. [10:29] crocket: An extended partition cannot hold a filesystem. [10:29] Hi, [10:30] I've a question. I have a problem with nimbus font, so I want to rollback nimbus font by reinstalling it. [10:30] but I don't which package contains nimbus font. [10:30] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:30] Do anyone know which pakcage that I must reinstall to rollback nimbus font? [10:31] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:31] void_16: What is the problem you are having with it? [10:32] crocket: there is no sda4 if sda4 is extended, only sda5, sda6 etc [10:32] pupit : /dev/sda4 is recognized by fdisk. [10:32] I replace n020014l.pfb with wrong file [10:33] so the output for nimbus font is going wrong [10:33] revel0_______ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:33] crocket: pastebin your partitions scheme [10:34] [1]Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp081.studby.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [10:34] pupit : I'm currently on FreeBSD, so its fdisk can't read logical partitions. Are you ok with that? [10:34] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp081.studby.uio.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:34] Nick change: [1]Cyntrox -> Cyntrox [10:35] revel0_______ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:35] pupit : http://pastebin.org/445559 [10:37] Well, if anyone is curious... I couldn't get the framebuffer working on this EeePC because while I had KMS enabled in the kernel, I had fbcon as a module, but never bothered to install the module. I baked that in, and now it works in 800x480 mode. [10:38] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:38] I have tried explode all package in x and t, unfortunately I still don't find which package it is. [10:41] mernilio (~magnus@bb-nu-85-11-236-69.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [10:42] hi all! why do you think my wireless sometimes dives and i get this message that my password is wrong .. can it be a bad signal or something? [10:43] password to the router that is. [10:43] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:43] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.116.212) joined ##slackware. [10:43] mernilio: What did you do to configure your wireless? [10:44] sinuhe: i uses wicd .. very painless i must say .. i just had to give it the password and it worked .. but sometimes it goes down [10:45] mernilio: So nix troubleshooting password, just intermittent connection? [10:46] sinuhe: i dont know, maybe it's to early to start asking questions, i have just had wireless for 3 hours .. and it's a new world for me :-) [10:46] wicd was very good tho, i really recommend it! [10:48] Also we have a cordless phone one meter from the router .. i dont know, maybe that can interfer? [10:49] bbl [10:49] mernilio (magnus@bb-nu-85-11-236-69.ornskoldsvik.com) left ##slackware. [10:50] mernilio (~magnus@bb-nu-85-11-236-69.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:51] a little off topic, but im planning to build myself a dipol antenna. is aluminum a better or worse than iron for transmitting/reciving signals? [10:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.247.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:52] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: hungry!!! [10:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna [10:52] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE7B5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Where does a default Slackware installation keep its SSL certificates? [10:53] v4nelle (~van@178-29-215.dynamic.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:53] mernilio: copper [10:53] pupit: yeah, copper is prolly the best [10:53] anyone know why xz libs is still in beta [10:54] when i just saw a RHEL5 stable box downloading it... and slack has liblzma 4.999.9beta [10:54] also, why ss segfaults [10:55] Cyntrox: /usr/share/ca-certificates/ [10:55] thanks [10:55] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Huh, there's no such folder... 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[11:14] if yes, /etc/ssl should have openssl.cnf file and certs, misc, private directories in there [11:15] void_16 (~void_16@120.162.227.157) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:15] yeah, they're there... I managed to generate a new certificate, though. [11:15] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-130-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:21] /etc/ssl/certs [11:21] oops scroll fail :\ [11:21] Hi BP{k} o/ [11:22] Roin: howdy o/ [11:24] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.56.167) joined ##slackware. [11:24] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Wulf-is-not-here (ASTRO-PUNK@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-uivluthugwwuxtqp) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [11:29] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:29] I reverted to hdparm 9.28 and I don't get I/O errors. Has anyone pushed this further yet or should I report it? [11:29] BP{k}: It's official - Dell is still on my "not recommended" list [11:30] alisonken1home: oh? (not that I disagree) ;) [11:31] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:31] It started with slack64 on a dell studio quad-core 4Gram laptop and i915 driver - nice eye candy and everything. Then switched to slack32 due to flash issues. Everything still fine for about a month [11:31] revel0_______ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:32] then I slackpkg upgraded - but must have had the mirror set to slack64. Now, most (not all) programs started with startup notifications causes X to crash. Even after a fresh format/install on both slack32 and slack64 [11:33] and of course, dell utilities are windows based - even the flash bios upgrade [11:34] revel0_______ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. 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[11:46] libsmbios ftw [11:46] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("take care..."). [11:47] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-41-237-1.ip83.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:48] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [11:48] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] antiwire: thanks - something to play with tonight [11:49] it's a cool toolset, does much more than just bios updates [11:50] vinegaroon (~sam@202.180.121.235) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:50] so the readme states :) [11:50] haha [11:50] I forgot! some people in here *can* read! [11:50] Hello all; Is there any file that is read on login that must be read and cannot be bypassed? [11:50] you guys hear dell was shipping replacement motherboards with a spybot on it [11:50] clijunkie: what are you thinking of? [11:51] Skywise: some firmware that was borked by a dev's windows machine IIRC [11:51] jeev, we have one Dell laptop with Vista on it. No complaints at all about that (except that it needs locking down). [11:51] clijunkie: typically, the /etc/motd file is read on login [11:51] alisonken1home: Well I know that .bashrc and .bash_profile can be not read with a arg on login (I think I recall), but I need to find any of the files read on login that cannot be bypassed. This will be used for tracking unauthorized users gaining shell or login. [11:52] Skywise, spybot? Do expound. [11:52] clijunkie: look at /etc/profile and /etc/profile.d/* files for starters [11:52] one sec, i'll get a link [11:52] clijunkie: the other option is to hack the login program [11:53] arcsky (~arcsky@2a01:48:100:1:1::1c2) joined ##slackware. [11:54] alisonken1home: I'll have to poke around the man pages and see which are overridable. thanks [11:54] dive, dell is the best built laptop in my awesome opinion [11:54] jeev: as long as it's running MS maybe [11:55] perhaps [11:55] jeev, well I still like my IBMs but they are getting old [11:56] and fsck widescreen [11:56] clijunkie: actually user ~/.bashrc and ~/bash files can be passed an argument from /etc/profile and/or /etc/profile.d/* files [11:56] dive, http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/07/21/1354206 [11:56] If I didn't go Dell I'd have a Lenovo [11:56] i build all my machines [11:56] Lenovo or HP - at least the HP laptops I've had were excellent [11:56] righht, you build your own laptop and you make your own castings right? [11:56] i haven't built my own laptop yet, but i use toshibas [11:56] antiwire, you can [11:57] I know you can "build" your own laptop from cookie cutter crap [11:57] you can buy chassis and the whole thing but its often more expensive then a preassembled one unlike with desktops [11:57] ercula (~ercula@184-97-189-172.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:58] Skywise, classic. I don't even have to read the comments on that one. [11:58] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: brb switch of the OS [11:58] (ok I read a couple) [11:58] lol [11:58] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.56.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:59] this beer's is going down too damned fast. [11:59] I performed minimal intall with salckware 13.1 on old machine P3 600MHZ MB ASUS P2B with XFCE and cannot shutdown it completly. Well hard drives turn off while power supply doesn't [12:00] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:00] dive, i've got lenovo's too. nothing beats a dell [12:00] RIP panzer? [12:01] yeah [12:01] what happened to panzer? [12:01] Cr1kk4, hold down the power button you might need to compile a custom kernel [12:01] he passed away 2 weeks ago [12:01] geez [12:01] Why? [12:01] Cr1kk4, because if you acpi might not be standard [12:02] um, that didn't come out right [12:02] gotta use old apm? [12:02] Cr1kk4, if it's that old you might need APM [12:02] yeah [12:03] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:03] debian squeeze is capable of whit 2.6.32 while slack ain't [12:03] what? [12:03] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.216) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:04] either way, it would make kernel options even more likely [12:05] ok thanks [12:06] copy & paste configure of debian? [12:06] there aren't a great deal of options under APM support, but if you have both distros working you should be able to see which kernel options you have [12:06] Cr1kk4, no don't copy/paste anything from debian [12:07] just look for the differences in apm [12:07] and also lsmod the two [12:07] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] migth just need to load a module [12:08] right [12:09] gonna try it later. Thanks again. [12:10] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:11] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-130-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:12] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-133-231.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:15] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-133-231.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:28] actually, i dont have any problems with my slackware installation .. everythings works like a charm .. well sometimes my freaking new wireless connection goes down.. bu [12:28] t i can take that.. [12:29] You know why? I'm a man.. i dont whine! And hope google is my friend :-) [12:29] WireWulf (ASTRO-PUNK@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-uivluthugwwuxtqp) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:29] wicd works for me on the wired and wireless stuff [12:29] hurray mernil [12:29] thrice` :-) [12:29] rworkman, ping :> [12:30] alisonken1home: agreed! [12:30] wicd was painless to use [12:31] thrice`: I downgraded to 9.28 hdparm and the io errors stopped. Do you know if anyone related to Slackware has pushed this to upstream yet? rworkman too? what about you!!! [12:31] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [12:31] thrice`: btw.. im mernil [12:31] antiwire, honestly, I wasn't sure if it was something new in the options, and I didn't try to dig further :( [12:31] io .. i have not heard about this mernilo [12:32] mernilio, I feel sorry for you [12:32] mernil [12:32] :-) [12:32] well im a new man now [12:33] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:33] antiwire, the ONLY thing I was using it for was quite simple, eg "hdparm -B XXX /dev/sda" [12:34] i'll dig deeper and find out what changed between 9.28 and 9.29 [12:34] antiwire, http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3036238&group_id=136732&atid=736682 [12:35] thrice`: sweet! [12:35] is hdparm really important nowadays? [12:35] mernilio: please be quiet, men are talking. [12:35] antiwire: im a man! :-P [12:35] but hdparm has ben [12:36] been around for 15-20 years.. [12:36] Axius (~fd@92.82.89.52) joined ##slackware. [12:36] mernilio: Frankly, I don't think you know what you're talking about which means you're probably better off entering observer mode instead of participant mode. [12:36] I'll email Pat with it, and beg for forgiveness [12:37] thrice`: hdparm has a problem with the sdX drives? [12:37] if you try to change tweak power management properties [12:37] antiwire: no worries, use hdparm then, im not forbidding you to use it. That is your own choise! [12:37] alisonken1home: 9.28 worked fine but 9.29 regressed and some of the commands fail with IO errors. acoustic settings and power settings are two I saw fail. [12:38] k [12:38] v4nelle (~van@178-29-215.dynamic.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:38] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:38] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-41-237-1.ip83.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:39] antiwire: and i will never go into observer mode :-) [12:39] why was mernil unbanned? [12:39] thumbs: because im really a nice guy [12:39] ah, he's evading again. [12:39] :-) [12:40] wow [12:40] and you wonder why you get perm banned [12:40] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [12:41] bear with me.. i was here 15 years ago when goldelf was op. [12:41] thats not appropos of anything [12:42] Maybe not, but strong linux knowledge from me is! [12:42] shut up [12:42] you don't know how to conduct yourself and were excluded and i don't think you've learned anything [12:42] Ok [12:42] i'll shut up then [12:42] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:42] you are so offensive and rude, and don't contribute anything useful [12:42] but dont ban me :-| [12:43] as long as you behave yourself, you should be fine [12:43] no, he has a perm. ban from here [12:43] and evades regularly [12:43] ah [12:43] thrice`: bah.. offensive and rude??? [12:43] mernilio: you should not join, unless the ops lift the permanent ban. [12:43] c'mon? [12:43] Axius (~fd@92.82.89.52) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:44] yes, another channel I was in, to which you were also banned, you were extremely racist [12:44] thrice`: you have my permisson to say what a said! :-D [12:45] But this is slackware.. so you better pm me! [12:45] self-conceited, too [12:46] adaptr, what's the bnc you use called ? [12:46] mernilio: you'd be surprised how many things we can and will do without your permission. they may stop short of physical abuse - but then again, who knows ? [12:48] adaptr: your talking about "we" .. are you group of hackers or what [12:48] gtludwig (~gtl@litio.certi.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:48] adaptr: acrtually i fart in your face because my network is solid protected! [12:49] And if it's violated, I will send an intrussion report to Interpol. [12:50] for one thing - you're thinking of "crackers" not "hackers" and yes there's a bunch of hackers here [12:50] like i said, im old [12:51] school. I know it all .. and laughts a little about baby adaptr [12:53] I'm actually a Slacker, not a hacker [12:53] Okay, this is slackware .. and we should be friends! guis is our enimies!! :-) [12:53] Wulf-is-not-here (ASTRO-PUNK@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-kgesbghtzqgxitqs) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [12:53] you're lucky we don't have any ops :> [12:53] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.216) joined ##slackware. [12:54] thrice`: i thougt that w [12:54] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.232.16) joined ##slackware. [12:54] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-biiirzdjkkrtcgph) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:54] antiwire: and them too :) [12:54] as a nice thing to say [12:54] I wonder if Pat ever come in here? [12:55] is there something similar to ethtool for wireless interfaces? [12:56] for wireless I use WICD Cyntrox ._. [12:56] comparing marc shuttleworth with pat wolkdering is to compare apples with .. something .. Pat is a true legend .. Marc Shuttleworht has done a lot of good thing for ubbuntu, very good [12:56] if mernilio was a regular here 15 years ago, then he was either 10 years old at the time, or he hasn't managed to mature any since. [12:56] But Pat is th [12:57] e [12:57] man! [12:57] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] mernilio: press the enter key less often. [12:57] eg, not at all [12:57] Roin, does that require x? [12:57] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [12:57] adaptr, most likely the latter of the two. ;) [12:57] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] fire|bird: it was a bit of a baited question [12:57] thumbs: sorry, im sitting in a stupid sofa [12:57] mernilio: I don't care. [12:58] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [12:58] thumbs: you dont care o [12:59] Cyntrox: wicd has both gui and ncurses interfaces [12:59] no .. forget it :-) [12:59] Cyntrox: what are you trying to do? [12:59] fallertsen (~Franz@host54-231-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:59] I have to purcase a b e [12:59] better charir and table [12:59] you need to stop joining this channel, you are not welcome, and are banned [13:00] thrice`: wy [13:00] why this angushis? [13:00] does slackware 13.1 come with screenshot software? [13:00] alisonken1home, I'm trying to set up a slackware box as a simple access point [13:00] dustybin: ksnapshot/import [13:00] dustybin, kinda; kde has one (ksnapshot), otherwise 'import' from imagemagick [13:01] thanks [13:01] Cyntrox: hmm - may be a little more involved than that - have you thought of using an old box with openwrt? [13:01] import is nice [13:01] you can also install the xfce4 screenshooter from slackbuilds.org dustybin [13:01] just open a terminal an [13:02] d write "import" [13:02] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-69-167.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [13:02] mernilio: no one asked you. [13:02] thumbs: what? [13:03] alisonken1home, I'm not sure that has all the features I need - in addition to what I said I want it to be a file/web server running some virtualization. [13:03] thumbs: noone asked me? [13:03] thumbs: do you stand w [13:03] i have installed msttcorefonts and turned off aliasing, but the fonts look like this: http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/8015/snapshot1.png [13:03] Cyntrox: you might be able to do a virtual openwrt for the wifi stuff then - haven't tried it yet but it should be doable [13:04] mernilio (magnus@bb-nu-85-11-236-69.ornskoldsvik.com) left ##slackware. [13:04] mernilio: you were never authorized to send me a private message either. [13:04] alisonken1home, that might be a good idea. Hm. Do you know if openwrt supports 802.1x? [13:05] Cyntrox: it should [13:06] alisonken1home, I might try that then, thanks for the idea! [13:06] i need to compile freetype 2.4 to make fonts look nice on slackware [13:06] Cyntrox: quick check would be to rsync the dev site then browse the make config [13:06] Action: dustybin feels excited [13:08] arnis (~arnis@62.122.16.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:11] if i mess around with font configurations in /etc/fonts what do i need to restart to make the changes active? [13:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.232.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:12] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.53.227.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Well, arfon... I got another Novatel modem, and it behaves more like yours. The difference seems to be in the USB760 vs. MC760. Slightly different model numbers. [13:12] dustybin: grep fontconf /etc/rc.d/* [13:12] will show you the fontconfig command line used at startup [13:12] oh thanks :D [13:13] sorry - grep font /etc/rc.d/* [13:13] it's in /etc/rc.d/rc./M [13:13] rc.M rather [13:13] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:14] Updating X font indexes: /usr/bin/fc-cache -f & [13:14] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. [13:16] that should also be done from the fonts doinst.sh, so its pretty useless [13:16] if you installed from SBo at least [13:16] arnis (~arnis@62.122.16.30) joined ##slackware. [13:16] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: Não confundam liberdade com libertinagem... usem licenças GNU !! [13:16] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] afk [13:18] maybe i could edit the slackware freetype slackbuild script and turn on the bytecode interpreter [13:22] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-133-13.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:24] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) left irc: Changing host [13:24] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) joined ##slackware. [13:24] excellent read [13:24] http://www.vcn.bc.ca/~dugan/slackware-fonts/ [13:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.226.5) joined ##slackware. [13:26] mernilio (~magnus@bb-nu-85-11-236-69.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [13:29] The love of birds.. is that a slackware thing? Im putting up a birdnest right now. Seeing a new family of birds using my hom [13:29] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [13:29] e i made... it's so nice, and i think i have made something for global nature! [13:31] I cant say too bad now.. im drunk, and therefore i can go up the ladder. which i couldnt last year.. but then we had a bees :-( [13:32] Well i hope some nice birdies comes into my brand new kick ass birdnest! :-) [13:33] and now it's time for me to go up the ladder :-| [13:34] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [13:34] II was trying to set up port forward for ssh on my router, but as it turns out, my ip address is a private one on apartment network. Is there any way to get around that? [13:35] cryptic0: ask the owner of the other router. [13:36] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-130-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:37] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-hxsxvpxbpeqkojeb) joined ##slackware. [13:37] thumbs: the other router is run by the ISP [13:37] :p thats my speculation [13:37] and they assign private IPs to all apartments in the complex. [13:38] cryptic0: who's the owner of the internet account? [13:38] the apartment provides free internet, so no one. [13:39] cryptic0: impossible. One physical person must be the owner of any internet account with the ISP. [13:39] cryptic0: ask the landlord [13:40] yes, the landlord or the apartment management team. They decline to talk about it because really they don't know jackshit. The internet company comes down and takes care of any technical problems that might arise. [13:42] cryptic0: the signatory on the account must contact the ISP to inquire if a port can be fowarded, then [13:42] is there any way to find out if my wireless NIC can run in master mode? [13:42] which chipset is it? [13:43] I have no idea - I took it out of an old computer. How do I find out? [13:43] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:43] lspci can help us [13:43] thumbs: I see. I guess it's impossible then. I will just wait until I move next month to a duplex and get my independent internet connection. [13:43] plug it in , read the lspci -vv [13:43] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:43] my mutt now has a transparent background, at last :D [13:44] I think this is it: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01) [13:44] that should support master mode [13:45] I have one of those, and a few other atheros chipsets too. I use them with hostapd to run access points on Slackware [13:46] Hm, okay. When I try to set it to master using "iwconfig wlan0 mode master", though, I get an error (invalid argument). I can set it to managed, ad-hoc or monitor without problem. [13:46] you'll definitely need to set an ESSID, then [13:46] YDIW [13:47] lol [13:47] I use hostapd for this.... [13:47] and you'll be wanting some sort of daemon, yes [13:47] The modern way of doing this is to let hostapd setup the interface for you. [13:47] in fact, that's about the only way on modern kernels [13:47] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.226.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:48] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Does that come with slacks? I'd prefer to use the baseline tools, though - to know better how it works [13:49] Nick change: SigmaVirus24 -> graffatcolmingov [13:49] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [13:50] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:53] High_Priest (~Mean@92.244.136.48) joined ##slackware. [13:55] is rxvt a good terminal to use? what is your favourite terminal software? [13:55] Terminal. [13:55] ROXterm [13:56] xterm [13:56] BP{k}: that is XFCE Terminal ? [13:56] I use Terminal too [13:56] and tilda [13:57] aye thanks :D [13:57] dustybin: also konsole [13:58] jeeze there are loads [13:58] yeah [13:58] xterm looks nice and simple [13:58] there have been loads more too [13:58] xterm is [13:58] but i like konsole for irssi [13:58] xterm cockblocks my Alt-# for window switching [13:58] doesn't anyone use urxvt? [13:58] eeek [13:59] konsole doesnt work correctly with weechat for me, thats why I use ROXterm [13:59] hba (~hba@189.188.105.214) joined ##slackware. [13:59] well.. i'd hope for saying something birdlovely.. but at least .. my fear of heights is gone putting up that damn birdnest. [13:59] Raff (~rafael@189.101.244.177) joined ##slackware. [14:00] slackware should have a animal.. perl has a [14:00] 9_9 [14:00] urxvt looks nicer, is ligher, than any other console I've tried if you set it up right [14:00] camel, and ruby has a kiwi [14:00] i prefer xterm for everything else though [14:00] tavillo1980 (~chatzilla@190.138.22.115) joined ##slackware. [14:00] I just never find a good font to use in xterm [14:01] Roin: who needs good fonts in xterm? :-) [14:01] xterm would be if the unicode font coulod be enalarged [14:01] That [14:01] mernilio: me :p [14:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-123-86-241.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] 's like going into the cellar :-) [14:01] who cares about fonts? [14:01] :~p [14:02] er people that want to read text [14:02] dive: +1 [14:04] Roin: eterm is good also, eterm.org [14:05] mernilio: slackware has already an animal... alienBOB ;) [14:05] My greek bonus to you! but the greek bonus was not what the girl expected in that erotic novel i .. forget it! [14:05] dustybin: yes [14:06] hba: that's an issue for me... how can anyhone be worse than me? :-D [14:07] well.. to be honest.. i have stopped drin [14:07] king and trying to get "normal" :-) [14:07] i want xterm to use terminus [14:09] have you [14:09] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Hi [14:09] ever seen the milky way on a clear sommers eve [14:10] you can actually se [14:10] e my birdnest [14:10] I've seen the milky way during a dark night off the fantial of a carrier.... [14:10] fantail [14:10] oki :-) [14:11] NO light pollution there [14:11] have you ever danced with the devil in the glisten of the moonlight? (can't remember complete quote) [14:11] No [14:11] I have better choices of associates [14:11] dustybin: xterm -fn '-*-terminus-medium-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1' [14:12] Dance with the devi [14:12] dustybin, so any luck with it? [14:12] *danced with the devil in the pale moonlight [14:12] l .. yeah.. me personally i have more hopes for them 14 year olds [14:12] nope [14:12] that was a long command!! [14:12] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-190.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:12] who passing my .. yëah. [14:13] But i do have a fear of heights. But i did okay. [14:13] But i [14:14] did not find the right screw to the right thingie [14:14] to screw with. [14:14] edthix (~ed@124.13.33.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:14] you should have fallen off and landed on the lawn mower [14:14] thrice`, again? [14:15] tavillo1980 (~chatzilla@190.138.22.115) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [14:15] i created a XTerm file in my ~, it reads from that file ok :D [14:15] Hey, anyone know a simple way to determine how fast traffic is currently crossing your NIC? [14:15] thrice`: actually, the lawnmover incident is written down underneath. [14:15] dustybin, try rxvt-uncode - it's lighter than konsole/terminal and supports unicode plus many fonts and other settings [14:16] Alan_Hicks: you can use iptraf, or ntop or any other number of tools [14:16] thrice`: IT WILL [14:16] chop you real well ;-) [14:16] I wasn't aware iptraf did that. [14:17] Alan_Hicks, can you ban mernilio ? he's a troll, who is supposed to be perma-banned from here, and about every other channel on freenode [14:17] I didn't know it measured speed [14:17] hehe, learn something new every day :) [14:17] Allan hicks, i know him from news.. [14:18] I think Allan Hicks should ban himself! [14:18] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) left irc: Quit: aryr100 [14:19] S [14:19] Speaking for mysl [14:19] grr [14:19] mernilio: could you actually contribute to this room please? [14:19] Speakkng for myyself.. i just pi [14:19] p [14:19] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-130-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:19] put up a bird nest [14:20] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.182.198) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:20] gniks, no it's better if he doesn't [14:20] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-8-192.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:20] It is not much. But i do like bi [14:20] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] small birds [14:20] by contribute i mean actually contribute to raising the IQ of the room, not blast random fake shit :p [14:21] gniks: go fuck a duck asshole! or give us some [14:21] ##slackware: mode change '+o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [14:21] rworkman: ping [14:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*magnus@*.ornskoldsvik.com' by Alan_Hicks!~alan@cardinal.lizella.net [14:22] mernilio kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [14:22] Ask and ye shall receive. [14:22] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.187.34) joined ##slackware. [14:22] that works :) [14:22] thanks Alan_Hicks [14:22] thanks Alan_Hicks :) [14:22] I'll be around for awhile. If he comes back with a different nick or mask or something, please /msg me. [14:22] didn't know you had opper status :p [14:22] Alan_Hicks: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/bzw2ya67.html [14:23] hba: Awesome. Thanks. [14:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-123-86-241.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:24] hba: Is that bits per second or bytes per second? [14:25] Looks like bytes based on the contents of /proc/net/dev [14:25] Alan_Hicks: don't know.. i have remember i found it in http://nomius.blogspot.com/2007/07/knowing-network-speed-at-given-moment.html [14:25] handy script there, thanks hba [14:25] the kernel actually counts in octets [14:26] Alan_Hicks: iep, bytes seems the answer. [14:27] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-hxsxvpxbpeqkojeb) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:27] why not just use the tools provided in the distro? [14:27] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:27] gniks: /proc/net/dev is also provided by the distro ;) [14:28] the only thing i use my my desktop for is the odd bit of web browsing, everything else is done in the terminal, do you think i should switch to a windows manager like dwm ? [14:28] Can you put diff in a bash IF statement and get a TRUE/FALSE return? [14:28] that is provided by the kernel& and doesn't do the calculations for you, there are also other things iptraf will do for you like traffic break down by TCP/UDP port, src/dst IP, and src/dst MAC [14:28] dustybin: you might try blackbox first [14:29] aye ok [14:29] much more flexible and reliable than a bas script :p [14:29] unless you are very familiar with/like to use a tiling window manager [14:29] i also forget what I had to install for dwm but iirc it was a lot of b.s. [14:29] zaltekk (~zaltekk@71-15-84-157.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:29] dustybin: im on dwm 100% of my time ;) [14:30] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:30] dustybin, the *boxes are lighter - my choice would be flxubox [14:30] but yeah dustybin blackbox is lightweight, you can make it very minimal and you can make it look like a tiling wm [14:30] edthix (~ed@115.135.179.56) joined ##slackware. [14:30] edthix (ed@115.135.179.56) left ##slackware. [14:30] kryptoz (~sabarish@122.166.152.235) joined ##slackware. [14:30] never used fluxbox tbh [14:30] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [14:30] what does dwm do beyond twm? [14:30] i just loaded XFCE, and i have no use for the desktop space and icons, its just not required [14:31] i use a very few apps [14:31] as dive said, any of the *box'es are good for your purposes in all likelyhood [14:31] fluxbox, blackbox [14:31] i'm unfamiliar with the rest [14:33] actually maybe it wasn't dwm that gave me shit [14:33] http://i.imgur.com/dReIH.png [14:33] nice [14:33] lol [14:33] i'm going to have to try this for certain [14:33] lowkyalur (~low@dslb-088-071-226-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:33] i had wanted to get into a tiling wm before [14:34] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [14:34] fluxbox and blackbox are great alternatives for some one who doesn't need a full-featured DE. [14:34] The menus are particularly good with those windows managers. [14:34] aye indeed [14:34] yeah i love blackbox [14:34] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) left irc: Client Quit [14:34] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [14:34] I used ion for a while but some things annoyed me [14:35] it works perfectly for what i need use it for [14:35] if i got wack up firefox on something like this as required, that would be awesome [14:35] http://g.imagehost.org/0285/dwm.png [14:35] For example, I have dozens and dozens of servers that I maintain at two different colos, so I add a menu for colo 1 and a menu for colo2. Each have submenus for each VLAN, and each submenu has a server name. Clicking on a server spawns a terminal that ssh's to that box. [14:35] one of the twm's on suckless was shitty [14:35] Very handy, and takes up much less space than individual icons would. Also easier to organize. [14:36] Alan_Hicks: you use bbkeys too? [14:36] graffatcolmingov: nah. [14:36] Action: graffatcolmingov shrugs [14:36] I try to use my mouse as little as possible [14:36] it's more of a challenge to myself than a realistic goal for any particular reason [14:37] graffatcolmingov: Why don't you pastebin your .bbkeysrc then. [14:37] lol Alan_Hicks it is ridiculous [14:38] but all of the combos make sense [14:38] (to me) [14:38] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-144-75.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] there is no slackbuild for slackware 13.1 dwm so maybe its best to avoid [14:41] dustybin: its configured thrue its code (just a header file in C), so *really* no need for an SlackBuild. [14:42] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.155.109) joined ##slackware. [14:42] but to make a package... [14:43] arfon: about diff and if-bash, it seems you can test for its exit code, if [ $? -eq 0 ];then and so on... [14:44] dive: i install it in $HOME/local, which is a directory for personal installations, and then i add it to PATH and MANPATH. [14:45] I see [14:45] lowkyalur (~low@dslb-088-071-226-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:47] wertik_rus (~wertik@ip-95-221-127-237.bb.netbynet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:49] wertik_ (~wertik@ip-95-221-109-56.bb.netbynet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Thanks hba! [14:52] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-91-20.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@ip-95-221-127-237.bb.netbynet.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:52] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-78-12-191-172.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [14:53] hi all. do you know a good pdf library manager? [14:53] possibly with a working slackbuild for current64 [14:53] Action: arfon is interested in this also [14:54] arfon: np. [14:55] my *real* desktop ;) http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=107983 [14:56] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.187.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:56] wertik_ (~wertik@ip-95-221-109-56.bb.netbynet.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:57] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:57] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.174.129) joined ##slackware. [15:00] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.155.109) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:00] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-144-75.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:01] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.155.109) joined ##slackware. [15:03] fallertsen (~Franz@host54-231-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:10] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:10] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [15:11] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [15:12] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:13] alkos333 (~alkos333@184-205-233-147.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.175.137) joined ##slackware. [15:16] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [15:17] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [15:18] graffatcolmingov (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:20] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:20] hba: what app is that along the very top of the screen? (showing battery status & suchlike) [15:20] chomping (~chomping@unaffiliated/chomping) joined ##slackware. [15:22] alphageek: part of dwn (http://dwm.suckless.org) and i get all that info with an sh script. [15:23] kryptoz (~sabarish@122.166.152.235) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@184-205-233-147.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:26] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:30] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [15:31] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) left irc: Client Quit [15:33] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:33] hba and alphageek, looks like xmonad with xmobar [15:33] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [15:35] delt0r_ (~delt0r@188-22-23-216.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:36] vbatts: i knew about xmonad some time ago, but i've never gave a try.. dwm and dmenu works for me atm :) [15:37] delt0r___ (~delt0r@188-22-24-82.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:38] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-227-57.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] exit [15:40] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:40] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:40] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [15:42] AlexElliott_ (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [15:42] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:43] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:44] Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp081.studby.uio.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:45] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [15:48] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-132.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [15:51] vbatts_onm (~vbatts@139.sub-97-20-226.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:52] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: ... [15:53] Anyone know where I can find the libsdl development stuff in a Slack package? [15:53] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.53.227.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:53] hba yeah. It's always nice to have many ways to do the same thing [15:55] xmonad and xmobar are fast, but a little clunky to get working [15:56] lord_darwin (~lord_darw@dynamic-66-243-242-91.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Nick change: lord_darwin -> none [15:56] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-132.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:56] Nick change: none -> darwin [15:57] Nick change: darwin -> lord_darwin [15:58] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.219.13) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:59] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.143.175) joined ##slackware. [15:59] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-71-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:01] Redb3ard: aren't they inside sdl-1.2.14-i486-2? [16:01] hba & vbatts: thanks [16:01] if you dont need to run haskell for other stuff, doing so only for xmonad is overkill [16:01] Nick change: vbatts_onm -> vbatts_Droid [16:01] That's just the runtimes. [16:02] sahko agreed [16:02] Nick change: vbatts_Droid -> vbatts_droid [16:05] vbatts_droid (~vbatts@139.sub-97-20-226.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [16:06] Redb3ard: based in "rpm2tgz SDL-devel-1.2.14-1.i586.rpm" it seems to me that sdl development files are already in sdl-1.2.14-i486-2 but anyway, give a try :) [16:07] for me slackware alaways had the dev libaries I needed o_O [16:08] Well, whenever I compile the perl SDL module, it bitches that the dev stuff isn't there. [16:08] Tried the rpm, yuck. [16:08] Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp225.studby.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [16:08] Didn't work, so I'm building the whole damned thing. [16:09] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [16:10] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:11] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-130-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:12] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-227-57.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:12] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [16:13] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-92-192.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:14] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.174.129) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:15] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [16:16] Destructo (0ce83bd9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.232.59.217) joined ##slackware. [16:16] hey hey all [16:16] one quick question. when i do iwconfig . my pcmcia card shows up. why doesnt it give me internet [16:16] do i have to do dhcpd up ..? [16:17] if you want the addressing dynamic, yes [16:17] Raff (~rafael@189.101.244.177) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:17] Destructo, run ifconfig and see what information it shows [16:17] you should see your available connections [16:18] hba (~hba@189.188.105.214) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:19] and if tghe addy is dynamic, yeah, you have to do dhcpd up [16:19] the* [16:19] shonudo . ill be right back. switchionmh [16:19] switching [16:19] Destructo (0ce83bd9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.232.59.217) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:20] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:22] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [16:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*magnus@*.ornskoldsvik.com expired. [16:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*magnus@*.ornskoldsvik.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:23] hba (~hba@189.188.105.214) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Destructo (0ce83bd9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.232.59.217) joined ##slackware. [16:24] shonudo can you paste that info again please .. [16:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.193.237) joined ##slackware. [16:26] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:27] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:28] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-91-20.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:28] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [16:28] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-101-221.w92-156.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Destructo (0ce83bd9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.232.59.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:31] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:32] Action: arfon bets it's a broadcom card [16:32] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:32] ##slackware: mode change '-o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:33] God I hate Exchange! [16:33] Action: arfon like's Alan_Hicks' comment [16:34] You know what the worst thing is about Exchange? [16:34] It sux? [16:34] Forcing me to use Outlook! [16:34] That makes me sad Alan [16:34] How on God's grean earth do people use this abortion of an e-mail client?! [16:34] Most are ignorant and don't know any better [16:35] ...AND they whine to someone else when there's a problem. [16:35] But, it's got a calander built in so, it's okay. [16:35] calendar [16:36] Alan_Hicks, there are outlook connectors... and owa [16:36] vinegaroon (~sam@202.180.121.235) joined ##slackware. [16:37] nachox: No.... no there aren't.... Not when we don't control the Exchange server. [16:37] All I want to do... is get my company e-mail into claws-mail reliably... [16:38] Action: nachox actually likes outlook and exchange [16:38] They don't even offer IMAP or POP3 access. Oh no.... I got to get my e-mail through fuckin' HTTP! [16:38] mernilio (~magnus@bb-nu-85-11-236-69.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [16:38] hi all! :-) [16:41] hba (~hba@189.188.105.214) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:41] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE7B5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [16:42] Thanks for not banning me! I just came in from trying putting up a birds nest. It did not go very well. wrong screws and wrong bit on my cordless screwdriver. And with my mum holding the ladder down there..it didnt m [16:42] a [16:42] ade things any better , [16:42] ,- [16:42] Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp225.studby.uio.no) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:43] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435179.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:43] mernilio: Go away. I don't want to ban all of ornskoldsvik.com, but I will. [16:43] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-435179.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Alan_Hicks: what's is your problem? Im just trying to be friendly! [16:44] tekzilla (~jon@d031238.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:45] You were trolling earlier and are still wildly off-topic even after returning (and evading a ban in doing so). [16:46] tekzilla (~jon@d099230.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:47] '/lastlog mernilio' reveals amazingly high ratio of noise to signal [16:47] Alan, besides you being an alcololic, when where i a troll specifically? [16:47] Alan_Hicks: i know you! [16:48] [07:18] « mernilio» gniks: go fuck a duck asshole! or give us some [16:48] ban him [16:48] try that [16:48] but okay, i might be a troll once in a while. :-) [16:48] he's been banned over and over on many channels [16:48] He's trying to collect them all. [16:49] still, mernilio has a good heart, th at [16:49] Will do. I'm just gonna make sure it sticks this time, preferably without knocking out a whole /8. [16:49] that's because thrice` loves himn [16:50] problem with being here in slackware is the non-exi [16:50] sting [16:50] well i do have one problem [16:51] mernilio: You have many many problems. [16:51] ##slackware: mode change '+o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:51] yeah [16:51] im sitting in a deep couch missing some letters on the keyboard.. sorry for that! [16:52] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] mernilio kicked from ##slackware by Alan_Hicks: mernilio [16:54] mernilio (~magnus@bb-nu-85-11-236-69.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] I'll place a long-term ban with slackboy soon as I remember how to log on to him. [16:54] dcc chat? :) [16:54] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:55] you can always /ban *@*.ornskoldsvik.com [16:55] if he's eggdrop, he'll have to idenitify first [16:55] as a temp solution [16:55] Skywise, depends on the egg conf [16:55] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:55] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [16:56] High_Priest: Yeah, but I don't want to block the whole damned ISP. [16:56] A /16 should be sufficient, right? [16:56] don't think so [16:56] depends on how the ISP fragments the range [16:57] it would be very difficult and would take a lot of examples from troll's history to see what IPs he had before [16:57] and to place him in specific range [16:57] *@*85-11*.ornskoldsvik.com [16:57] weird name for an isp [16:57] an invite can override a ban [16:57] Skywise: slackboy's good about kicking them out anyway. [16:57] just ban the isp with the reason being how to ask for an invite to the channel [16:57] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:58] k [16:58] oh its scandinavian [16:58] yep, i googled it too :) [16:58] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:58] I'd ban him on user@host and *@host [16:58] nick as well [16:58] i duckduckgo'ed it :p [16:58] one could say, im a handsome swedish [16:58] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*85-11*.ornskoldsvik.com' by Alan_Hicks!~alan@cardinal.lizella.net [16:58] mernilio kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [16:59] Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp225.studby.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [16:59] of course a longer term solution would be to complain to his isp as well [16:59] Skywise: ISPs don't do anything. [17:00] also, IPs are visible here, someone could own him :) [17:00] i think if you explain you don't want to resort blocking anyone else from their isp, they might be sympathetic [17:00] does mernilio have a history here ? [17:00] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:00] nah, flooding won't help [17:00] someone said my name? [17:01] are you mernil? [17:01] anyone have any idea how to host a hidden wireless network? [17:01] twanny796 (~twanny@80.71.106.229) joined ##slackware. [17:01] haha no im not mernil [17:01] don't broadcast your ssid [17:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.193.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:01] gniks, that was a paste of mernilio's earlier comment to you [17:01] And you configure it not to how...? [17:01] and only respond to certain mac addresses [17:01] He asked "How did I troll" [17:02] oh gotchya arfon [17:02] Nick change: twanny796 -> xakalaka [17:02] Cyntrox, depends on the equipment you use [17:02] Cyntrox: check your AP's docs... [17:02] Cyntrox, are you using a linksys unit? [17:02] Nick change: xakalaka -> twanny796 [17:02] Cyntrox: "hidden" 802.11 is really quite silly. It does absolutely nothing to improve your security or deny people access. [17:03] 802.1x on top of .11 is much more handy :p [17:03] yeah, a sniffer will pluck it out of the air anyway [17:03] if linksys, all that Skywise mentioned is available via a yummy GUI interface [17:03] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [17:03] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: home [17:03] twanny796 (twanny@80.71.106.229) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [17:03] Skywise's recommendation of a mac address filter is the best bet. [17:04] I'm using this: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01) [17:04] even that can be faked [17:04] I disagree jgeboski [17:04] dive: true, but it's a good practice [17:04] best bet would be stronges encryption possible, and strong pw [17:04] 802.1x is the best bet actually, with WPA2 [17:04] Oh, and I'm doing it from a slackware box, not some AP [17:05] shonudo, I use a mac filter but for someone with the time it's easy enough to crack [17:05] Action: arfon votes for a CAT5 connection [17:05] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-8-192.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: https://linuxspirit.fr [17:05] dive: again, true, but it's one layer [17:05] its arfon [17:05] It's KaMii [17:06] KaMii, I think your brother was in here stirring up things... :) [17:06] you mac filter, you use strong encryption... [17:06] it all adds up [17:06] my brother? I dont have a brother [17:06] (JK) [17:06] then you try to strike a balance between security and sanity [17:06] who was doing what and why is he related to me? [17:07] Some swedish guy who said he was handsome. [17:07] Talking about bird houses [17:07] and keyboards missing keys. [17:08] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:08] bahahaha, and you thought he was my brother??? [17:09] ...he said he was swedish [17:09] so are 9 million other people [17:10] Action: arfon didnt think there were 9million Swedes... [17:10] 9 million thats all? [17:10] yup [17:10] jhw (~jhw@p548D7E39.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:10] wow there are nearly that many people in my city alone :p [17:10] VampX (~VampX@201.218.68.99) joined ##slackware. [17:10] your city is about 9 million people too many then [17:11] haha [17:11] not really [17:11] KaMii likes empty fields? [17:11] yes [17:11] well trees actually [17:11] it's nice :) [17:11] and quiet [17:11] and high speed internet [17:12] odd combination, I don't know of many trees with high speed internet [17:12] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.237.189) joined ##slackware. [17:12] shhhh, im currently cross breeding them with fiberoptics [17:13] Are they Plastic Trees? [17:13] You need raela's help but she would probably try and sneak in some horse genes... [17:13] naww, i tried, but they said all the plastic is in Hollywood now so I cant get any [17:14] :( [17:14] Action: KaMii doesnt talk to raela because she hates me and is mean to me [17:14] wtf [17:14] maybe today is some troll day or something? [17:14] at last, perfect fonts :D [17:15] Well, I'm in Texas so the only thing I have access to is Mesqete trees [17:15] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [17:15] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-149-29-169.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] (and they are more of a weed) [17:15] Mesqete? never heard of it [17:15] *mesquite [17:15] i thought all english words that had a q immediately had a u after it [17:15] It's a weed-tree that people go nuts over for BBQs [17:15] KaMii: Think, tall, thorny bush. [17:15] good-smelling smoke [17:16] Action: arfon is a hickory fan [17:16] blaines_ (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] oh nice [17:16] well, not good-smelling like potpourri [17:16] Mesq-however youspell it is mexican [17:16] Alan_Hicks, are you in the southwest? [17:16] blaines_ (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [17:17] shonudo: Southeast. [17:17] a.k.a. The Deep South. [17:17] how deep? :) [17:17] Georgia? [17:17] arfon: Correct. [17:17] you might be a redneck if loading the dishwasher, means getting your wife drunk [17:17] Action: arfon wins! [17:17] well, not the deepest part of the pool, but you can see the deep end from georgia [17:18] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:18] shonudo: Trust me. I'm from the deepest part. Ask Robby. [17:18] so i take it you're not typing from Atlanta... [17:19] shonudo: Right now, from marietta. I work up here during the week for IMO, then go home on weekends. [17:19] KaMii, that's 'getting the mashing machine (clothes) drunk' [17:19] I was in atlanta once, I was like 8 or 9 or something... everyone was talking funny, thats all i remember [17:19] blaines_ (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:20] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:20] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:20] It's the caffene in the Coke KaMii [17:20] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) joined ##slackware. [17:20] blaines_ (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [17:20] Action: KaMii doesnt drink soda [17:21] shonudo: Let's leave it at this. I've driven around town with hog afterbirth on the back of my truck. [17:21] ##slackware: mode change '-o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:21] ewwwwww, i didnt need to know that [17:21] Alan_Hicks: that is so cool -_- [17:22] yikes! [17:22] mmm, pork rinds [17:22] lmao [17:22] damn, there's something i'll NEVER be able to say, no matter how long i live [17:22] you'd think hog could be more discrete [17:22] heh [17:22] i dont want to know [17:22] Sorry, I can't do a "MMmmmm acon" on that one [17:22] is there another way to get text with control characters out of a terminal besides script ? [17:22] check out these fonts: http://img440.imageshack.us/f/snapshot3x.png/ [17:23] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:23] hi [17:23] Hi cr3 [17:23] shonudo: You haven't lived until you've torn your good shirt off your body birthing pigs. [17:23] ok im going [17:23] this is going to make me sick [17:23] odd definition of 'lived' [17:23] i wanted to install miro, which requires 'libwebkit' which is compiling endlessly [17:24] i mean, how do i make webkit compile faster? [17:24] KaMii: My apologies. I'll stop. [17:24] cr3: #webkit [17:24] So running other things cr3 [17:24] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] no, many people describe birth as an exhilirating moment [17:24] so=stop [17:24] i'd pass out [17:24] SigmaVirus24 (WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) left ##slackware. [17:24] but some people think its beautiful [17:24] ya, but afterbirth in a truck driving around town [17:25] thats just circumstances [17:25] I just forgot to wash it off. [17:25] I'd raher have a beer [17:25] omg, ok i seriously need to take a shower now, i feel all gross [17:25] arfon, how do you birth a beer?? [17:25] I do a cesarian on the refridge [17:25] lmao [17:25] ha! [17:25] Open that thin up and pluck it out [17:26] thin =thing [17:26] shonudo: That's why Coors added the new window. ;-) [17:27] COOL! Beer ultrasound! [17:27] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:27] too funny [17:27] That also explains why Coors beer tastes like piss. [17:27] and it does [17:27] nasty stuff [17:27] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] although when you couldn't get it in the east, everyone treated it like... [17:27] Coor > 0 [17:27] well, a treat [17:28] http://packages.slackware.it/ [17:28] doesnt wprl [17:28] same with olympia beer, now that i think about it [17:28] work [17:28] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.73) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:29] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:29] the link is broken (although the english explanation isn't) [17:29] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:29] get (~get@unaffiliated/get) joined ##slackware. [17:29] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [17:30] Shalomar (~Sam@cpe-24-93-139-177.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:30] cr3, i've come across that page in the past [17:30] that's not getting fixed soon, imo [17:30] i neeed to install libwebkit without compiling it for 1.5 hour [17:30] as they say on #webkit [17:30] it compiles for 1 hour!!! [17:30] so what [17:30] i just want to install miro [17:30] if it's a repository package, try OSU [17:30] adn it requires libwebkit [17:30] OSU? [17:30] go get a beer after you start the compile [17:31] http://slackware.osuosl.org/ [17:31] couldn't find it there [17:31] :( [17:31] could it be that it's in the previous versions of slackware? [17:32] a possibility [17:32] You'ld be better just to do the compile cr3 [17:32] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:32] Do what I do, watch Spongebob [17:32] 0_0 [17:33] just compile you sissies! [17:33] drink a beer [17:33] i cannot comprehend this [17:33] lol [17:33] Start the compile then turn on Spongebob [17:34] i cannot comprehend why isn;t there precompiled version of libwebkit [17:34] Action: antiwire plays the world's smallest violin [17:34] because it's not popular enough? [17:34] for linux ofc [17:34] if you do compile it, edit the makefile and add: ## watch spongebob after beginning ./configure [17:35] :) [17:35] Funny man [17:35] i was going to add he should credit you, arfon [17:35] it's only fair [17:35] Damned straight! [17:35] heh [17:35] Thnx shonudo [17:35] Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp225.studby.uio.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:36] Should put an IF in there.. if Spongbob exists, compile [17:36] cr3: webkit is also in alienBOBs repository (as a package) [17:36] sahko, [17:36] yes [17:37] and it also compiles endlessly [17:37] congrats cr3 [17:37] cr3: so get the package [17:37] waut [17:37] wait [17:37] alienBOBs? i thought of sbopkg for some reason [17:37] OpenTTD makes compiles seem faster also [17:38] you know what, i'll just use windows version with wine [17:38] easier simpler faster [17:38] fail [17:38] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] win [17:38] e [17:38] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/webkitgtk/ [17:38] Beating on Horde also help compile time pass. [17:39] compiling as a contact sport... [17:39] i'd never considered that possibility [17:39] You haven't had enough fail [17:40] my poor keyboard [17:40] Action: arfon shakes his head [17:40] all kidding aside, speaking of failures, has anyone had any luck getting an app called darktable up and running? [17:40] Action: arfon hasn't tried [17:41] What is darktable? [17:41] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:41] arfon: it's a promising photo post-processing app [17:41] Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp225.studby.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [17:41] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] like gimp? [17:41] and that's a great alliteration, btw [17:42] more like lightroom [17:42] Action: arfon is alliterate [17:42] lmao [17:42] nice [17:42] very nice [17:42] Action: arfon for the win [17:42] Sorry, I'm a whimp, I just use gimp [17:43] i use gimp as well [17:43] but i'd love to try darktable [17:43] You a graphic artist ? [17:43] if i could get it running [17:43] arfon: no, i'm not [17:44] well, you could follow cr3 and try it under wine [17:44] ? [17:44] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-225-239.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [17:44] i'm not a WINE fan [17:44] me neither, usually doesn't work [17:44] seriously, if i want to run a windows app, i'll run it on windows [17:44] OMG [17:45] and it's already installed [17:45] despite some minor errors [17:45] HA HA HA HA HA [17:45] omg indeed [17:45] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:45] That's funny! [17:46] Cyntrox (~Cyntrox@pil-1x-dhcp225.studby.uio.no) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:46] why not use wine for everything then [17:46] wine's much cheaper than windows though if you don't have windows already :) [17:46] Yep Aldaron [17:46] go ahead and tell me how well $RANDOM_DOT_NET_PROGRAM_HERE runs under wine... [17:46] But it's such a pain [17:46] they mostly run like SHIT [17:47] Winetricks makes it better but still... :P [17:47] .NEt = evil [17:47] why would I want to run a random dotnet program? They're mostly like shit on windows too ;) [17:47] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:47] .NET = required for many of us who actually support multiple systems from different vendors [17:47] 'cause UO Razor needs .NET [17:48] Yea, I also occationally really want to run something that's dot-net [17:48] I haven't heard much hype over .NET anymore, is it dying in popularity? [17:48] yeah right [17:49] Aldaron: WINETRICKS [17:49] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:49] do you even know wtf you're talking about or are you looking at this from the gamer point of view? [17:49] arfon: thank you, I will try to remember that the next time I encounter a .net code I want to run. Might not be this year tho :) [17:49] Gamer's pov mostly [17:49] winetrickes will install.NET for you [17:50] also from a perspective of someone who wants to develop easily portable code. I think .net doesn't run natively on linux or mac, so I'll avoid it [17:50] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [17:50] please don't say java, please don't say java... [17:51] no I won't :) [17:51] I say c++, sdl, opengl [17:51] no VB??? [17:51] :) [17:52] Puh-lease :D [17:52] Action: arfon codes everything in Excel Macros [17:52] Let's also say gcc and code::blocks [17:52] Macros FTW! 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[18:27] Action: cmk_zzz undresses [18:27] Action: get hides [18:28] aaaah [18:28] i c u [18:28] xD [18:28] uh oh, wanna join? [18:28] join what [18:29] I don't know. I am new at this stuff [18:29] Action: get thinkin' about take a refreshin shower [18:29] its half past midnight here [18:29] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.116.212) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:29] have to go 2 bed [18:30] fair enough [18:30] so, have a nice whatever you doing, i go shower and sleepin [18:30] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:31] bye, tomorrow more, and better, sure [18:31] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [18:35] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:37] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-162-87.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:39] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [18:40] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:42] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-71-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:47] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.116.212) joined ##slackware. [18:49] rodrigo_golive (~Rodrigo@189-11-48-167.ctaje700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:52] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:52] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:52] hello all [18:54] hello you [18:54] anyone know what version will run on a netbook with arm processor only 128MB memory ? yes I know [18:58] perhaps http://www.armedslack.org/ [18:59] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*85-11*.ornskoldsvik.com expired. [18:59] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*85-11*.ornskoldsvik.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:00] thx what about memory issues ? will it run ? [19:01] 13.1 should run as long as you don't try using massive memory consuming programs. [19:01] will give it a run thx [19:04] slck-o (~cris@201.86.14.247.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:04] rSlacke (~cris@201.86.13.75.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:04] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-162-87.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:05] armedslack, I wonder how it would fare on embedded devices. Can you scale it down to run for example on a STB? [19:09] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-104.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] sorry dumb ? how to find if arm926-akchip will work ? [19:11] my first arm device [19:12] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:14] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.53.227.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [19:16] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-222-76.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:29] rodrigo_golive (~Rodrigo@189-11-48-167.ctaje700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:29] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) joined ##slackware. [19:33] Anyone know how to start dwm from login on slack13? [19:34] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-222-76.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:37] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.49) joined ##slackware. [19:38] SigmaVirus24: Are you using a login manager? [19:40] kdm [19:40] but dwm doesn't show up on the menu [19:41] ah [19:41] i had figured it out once before but I can't remember what it was [19:42] something to do with my .xprofile but I can't remember what the line was that I had toa d [19:42] *to add [19:42] you need to add a file somewhere:) [19:42] No I remember I'd tried that [19:42] It didn't work [19:42] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:43] Ok, let me see if I can find it in my notes. [19:44] xMDKx (~Rodrigo@201.11.23.74) left irc: Quit: i'm chargin mah lazer [19:45] I had to add the file dwm.desktop under usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions for it it appear in KDM [19:45] rodrigo_golive (~Rodrigo@201.11.23.74) joined ##slackware. [19:45] is that what you tried? [19:45] yeah I'd tried that [19:45] Normally, you put this sort of stuff in .xinitrc . The problem is that KDM doesn't use that file to start the session [19:45] h.o i think i found it on dwm's site [19:46] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.175.137) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:46] yeah got it [19:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: shonudo [19:46] if you put exec dwm at the beginning of your xprofile and select "custom" at kdm it works [19:47] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:47] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:47] cool, never done it that wayt [19:47] -t [19:47] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-130-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:47] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. 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[19:53] also cmk_zzz which version are you running? [19:54] wmii 3.6 [19:54] ok the one on sbo [19:54] Yeah, which made the installation of the other packages fairly straight forward [19:55] dwm is good to, plus you configure it by modifying the source code which makes you super elite!:) [19:57] yeah i saw that [19:57] Mind you, that is probably easier than to get your head around the configuration on some other WMs anywayt [19:58] I've never really quite understood exactly how things work in wmii, but just know enough to make it useful for me [20:00] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.53.227.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:03] rSlacke (~cris@201.86.13.75.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:09] fatalnix (~fatalnix@spirit.ggxmain.com) joined ##slackware. [20:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-222-76.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Saaraah (Figo@41.236.13.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:13] rirombo (~user@h86.181.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] So, after spending about five hours compiling 2.6.34.2 kernel last night, today I find out that my Broadcom wireless card is confirmed as not to be working in that particular release :\ [20:15] Action: rirombo just LOOOOVES Linux sometimes. [20:15] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:15] rirombo: Why did you compile that kernel? [20:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Quit: shonudo [20:16] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-104.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:17] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:17] drivers sometimes are like that. On windows my computer once lost all 3d capability when I upgraded the ATI driver. That's the last time I upgraded a working driver.. [20:17] Aldaron: Because I was hoping to use the newer i915 drivers [20:18] heh, well :). Drivers are a valid reason.. [20:18] I wish I could update drivers piece-meal :D [20:18] if the old drivers don't work well, that is [20:18] rirombo, have you looked if it's fixed in 2.6.35? [20:19] jgeboski: Somebody did report that it has been fixed in 2.6.35.1, so yes. I'm just not looking forward to another compiling session [20:21] it doesn't take that long does it? [20:22] it depends. if you're the person whos wireless isnt working it does. if you're not, it doesnt [20:22] If you're a person compiling the kernel on an Atom N270 1.6GHz netbook, it does :D [20:25] wireless is pretty much useless for netbooks anyway. its not like you have to carry them around or anything [20:26] Razec (~razec@187.34.23.123) joined ##slackware. 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[20:38] you don't understand. to support PS/2 devices *on the mobo* [20:39] a physical PS/2 port [20:39] speaking the IBM PS/2 protocol - such as it is [20:39] Again, I see no reason why it couldn't be added to the USB bus with a supporting chip [20:39] that chip would emulate an ISA bus [20:39] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-130-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [20:39] plenty of software around that wants to see PS/2 keyboards or mice [20:40] silly as that may be [20:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-222-76.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:41] on a tangent, my mediabox has a PS/2 port for both, and it complains if I plug in a keyboard but not a mouse. however, if I plug in a USB keyboard, it doesn't [20:42] Action: adaptr remenisces fondly back to the braindead BIOSen that happily crowed "please press F1 to continue!" when no keyboard was found [20:43] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-71-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:44] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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[22:19] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:19] FDCX kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [22:19] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [22:20] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.193.138) joined ##slackware. [22:21] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] y0 folks [22:22] hey MLanden [22:22] hi shonudo [22:22] evening MLanden. [22:22] evening BP{k} [22:24] Sharron Angle is such a goofus. [22:25] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.175.137) joined ##slackware. [22:26] el_lobo-1d-_-b (~Juan@186.28.13.182) joined ##slackware. [22:27] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.193.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:30] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:30] user2438 (~user45925@76.250.190.224) joined ##slackware. [22:33] el_lobo-1d-_-b (~Juan@186.28.13.182) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:35] hmmm.... /whois sharron angle [22:36] good question [22:37] She is a right wing senate challenger to Harry Read in NV. He'll win. [22:38] so, that means she's a right angle? [22:38] HA! [22:38] is her street name "90degree" or something? [22:38] No. She's obtoose. 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[22:41] saw a few clips floating on youtube [22:41] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:41] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:42] u-neeks (~666@200-140-4-189.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:43] So, if I have sources for 2.6.34.2 kernel and I want to compile 2.6.35 kernel, can I just get the patch-2.6.35.tar.bz2 file and patch the sources I have, or will that not work? [22:43] sukaeto (~sukaeto@pool-173-49-229-225.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:44] That won't work. [22:44] rirombo, just compile the new kernel [22:44] rirombo, btw, i've meant to comment that for a guy that just picked slackware up... [22:44] rirombo: since slackware doesn't patch the sources more than necessary, i think it may work [22:44] you're moving at an amazing pace [22:44] That will work against 2.6.34, not 2.6.34.2 [22:45] sukaeto (~sukaeto@pool-173-49-229-225.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:45] ridout: good point [22:45] Ah, I see. Will get full 2.6.35 sources that, thanks [22:45] in that case, just download the full sources [22:45] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) joined ##slackware. [22:45] sukaeto (~sukaeto@pool-173-49-229-225.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] he'll get better (more predictable results) if he just starts from scratch [22:45] true [22:45] anyone around build wmii 3.6 from the SBo on 13.0? [22:45] shonudo: true on that one [22:45] shonudo: Thank you :) I've had some prior experiences with Linux and FreeBSD, so some things I just need a refresher on and an "update" to modern times [22:46] you're just moving along -- good for you [22:46] SigmaVirus24: coming across any snags? [22:46] Yeah MLanden I'm getting an issue in the building of the package [22:47] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [22:47] in cmd/wmii/fs.c line 895 a pointer differs in signedness [22:48] Nick change: WireWulf -> Cuana [22:48] SigmaVirus24: Did you manage to build the other needed packages? [22:48] and install [22:48] Yes cmk_zzz [22:51] 32-bit slackware? [22:51] yeah, i686 [22:51] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:51] SigmaVirus24: see someone attempted with the latest build 3.9.2 for wmii http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/dwm-and-scrotwm-questions-818157/ [22:53] hmm [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:55] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-022.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [22:55] maybe I shall make a SlackBuild for 3.9.2 and submit instead of being lazy [22:55] and just using what's up already [22:56] SigmaVirus24: good luck [22:56] lol thanks MLanden, I'll need it since it would be my first [22:57] SigmaVirus24: If you are lucky the only thing you need to change is the version number in the slackscript [22:58] goj (~goj@p5488FBDE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] I'll try that cmk_zzz [23:00] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:01] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.116.212) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:05] Sam_ (~Sam@cpe-24-93-139-177.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Sam__ (~Sam@cpe-24-93-139-177.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:06] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-94-115.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:06] so far slightly different cmk_zzz [23:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-249-76.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:07] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-118-39.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [23:09] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:09] Shalomar (~Sam@cpe-24-93-139-177.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:10] cmk_zzz: do you have a rc.wmii file? [23:10] Sam_ (~Sam@cpe-24-93-139-177.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:11] nvm found one [23:14] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:15] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.116.212) joined ##slackware. [23:15] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.45.206) joined ##slackware. [23:23] DURgod (~DURgod@75-133-90-59.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:23] well that was fail as it didn't install properly 9_9 [23:24] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:27] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. [23:29] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-54-65-180.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] has anyone in here heard of Sorcerer linux? [23:29] The distro where packages are spells and to install them is to cast them? [23:29] sorcerer linux......can't say I have [23:29] CathyInBlue: thats the one [23:30] In that case, I have no idea what you're talking about. [23:30] I tried the goblinX live cd last week, I liked it :) [23:30] hehe, well apparently it literally builds everything from source [23:31] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.45.206) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:31] er, sourcemage is it ? [23:31] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-022.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:31] im sure all the warlocks and witches use it [23:31] trhodes: that's what I was thinkin' [23:32] sorceror is the old name, but it's the same distro [23:32] *sorcerer [23:32] ya, well its still used on the website, and the latests stable was in march [23:33] i true slacker never goes beyond slackware unless if it's 100% mandatory to use some stupid shit suite that comes with centos like trash [23:33] when did patrick stop including grub in extra? :( [23:33] might be neat to see some of the tools it provides [23:33] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:33] when gniks, a while i think [23:33] lame [23:33] oh [23:33] i thought it was in extra, i duno i forgot [23:33] you tryingi to xen ? [23:33] gniks: grub doesnt build in x86_64. its crap [23:34] thats interesting [23:34] s/interesting/pathetic [23:34] yeah [23:34] lol [23:34] wait [23:34] thats not true [23:34] i use whatever's there [23:34] RHEL runs grub on 64bit platforms [23:34] gniks: i said build, not run [23:34] if a system already has legacy grub, then I stick with it - no reason to change [23:35] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [23:35] trhodes: slackware doesn't run grub by default [23:35] i know [23:35] and im not talking about legacy stuff, and there are reasons to upgrade ;) [23:35] you mean grub2 ? [23:35] if you want to split hairs, yes :p [23:35] aka ubercrap [23:35] ah ok [23:36] yeah, i'm not a fan of it, but then again, i duno it very well [23:36] its decent [23:36] delt0r___ (~delt0r@188-22-170-97.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:36] i like it because its more dynamic than lilo, you can upgrade kernel files without having to modify the MBR [23:36] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-54-65-180.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:36] which also means you can move stuff around more easily [23:36] and the rest of the world has moved to grub :p [23:37] it's just complicated [23:37] eh, i don't think so, but to teach their own :p [23:37] delt0r_ (~delt0r@188-22-23-216.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:37] you have to use ext2 on /boot, correct ? [23:38] naw, you can use whatever you want [23:38] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-240.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:38] you just have ot make sure the module is installed [23:38] hmm ok [23:38] a slackbuild script for grub2 :p [23:38] w00t [23:38] crocket maintains it on SBo [23:39] yeah i see :p [23:39] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-7.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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