[00:00] its optional stuff [00:00] ShazbotMcNasty: were you using the dvd image? [00:00] it only gives templates for debian centos ubuntu ect. [00:00] yeah [00:00] "slackware-13.0-install-dvd" [00:02] ShazbotMcNasty: thats odd. [00:02] :/ [00:02] well, I've got an 72GB hdd, I'm going to make seperate partitions for / /usr and /home [00:02] but I don't know what size [00:02] what size does someone recommend? [00:03] read the slackbook. [00:03] 5GBs for / ; 10 GBs for /usr and the rest for /home? [00:03] i usually only make a seperate partition for my /home# directories. [00:03] i'm not sure why you want a seperate /usr [00:03] i tend to keep atleast 80gb for / [00:04] I've only got a 72GB hdd... [00:04] 1.5tb here [00:04] You can get away with a 5 GB / [00:04] about 10-15gb for / would probably be better [00:04] Although spook's recommendation is better. [00:04] okay [00:04] My root is 20 GB here [00:04] and I shouldn't make a /usr ? [00:05] if I don't need a seperate partition for /usr I can make / bigger [00:05] ShazbotMcNasty: can you justify why you should? [00:05] if you can push 20 for your needs you should. [00:05] a full slack 13 (32 bit) install requires 4.86 MB [00:05] spook, http://www.slackware.com/install/partitions.php [00:05] mancha: wow, is that using uclibc? [00:05] #unwritten rules [00:06] eek, i meant GB of course [00:06] i was about to say lol [00:06] 28% of that is kde and kdei [00:06] :) [00:06] ya [00:06] i use XFCE but alot of kde's programs [00:07] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl4-245-87.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:07] kde itself is bloated and runs alot of things. but its still nice so i just run xfce to save on resources [00:07] ShazbotMcNasty: i wouldnt recommend you have a seperate /usr its your choice as with everything. [00:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.174) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:08] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:08] i agree with spook [00:08] all of xap, of which xfce is part, is 9% [00:09] okay, I'll make a 15GB / and the rest /home [00:09] well, with a 3.5GB swap. [00:10] 3.5? [00:11] is that to small [00:11] ? [00:11] why the .5? [00:11] because I'm weird. [00:11] i remember seeing somewhere that swap isnt all that effective above 2gb, cant remember where it was though [00:11] I can't set my alarm for 7:30 because it seems too late, so I set it for 7:27 [00:11] that type of thing [00:11] I've never really understood the use of swap.. [00:12] virtual memory. [00:12] ShazbotMcNasty: ran out of RAM recently? [00:12] like a windows pagefile [00:12] Xeliaa, except linux's turns off [00:12] :) [00:12] yep! [00:12] mancha: indeed. [00:12] OHHH, i just googled it [00:12] :) [00:13] Although, in my use of win 7, it appears not to be accessing the page file as much [00:13] you can always add a swapfile later [00:13] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.60.80) joined ##slackware. [00:13] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [00:13] hey nachox [00:13] how many ssd's can you kill with XP in a week? [00:13] 25 [00:13] hey [00:13] nachox: you use solaris, right? [00:14] i do [00:14] FOr what, exactly? [00:14] downloading pr0n, ircing, and checking mail, like any other good *nix [00:15] at work i use ubuntu and windows vista, at home solaris, slackware and windows xp [00:16] NaCl, for the same things i use slackware, opensolaris is now my desktop os [00:16] nachox: Does the IPS give you any grief? [00:17] NaCl, so far, very little. but i know people that had some issues with it [00:18] How often are there updates? [00:18] Avi_ (n=Avi@122.169.84.181) joined ##slackware. [00:18] once every 2 weeks [00:18] attempt #2, pm-hibernate. [00:18] Avi_ (n=Avi@122.169.84.181) left irc: Client Quit [00:19] nachox: yay [00:19] nachox: that on average? [00:19] NaCl, if you use the dev branch, yes [00:19] Ok. Cool. [00:19] I left a fedora box off for a four months once. It accumulated over 400 package updates. [00:20] NaCl, the same thing happens with ubuntu, and opensolaris [00:21] Four hundred? really? [00:21] Ubuntu, I can believe. [00:21] fedora = snootiest users. [00:21] I just installed ubutu 9.10 in a VM and had about 120 updates [00:23] <|Slacker|> how can I get rid of that "Loading Linux...." thing right after boot? I remember I have to add something in lilo, but can't remember what [00:23] "compact" maybe [00:24] <|Slacker|> yeah..that's it [00:25] <|Slacker|> thanks [00:25] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:25] what's wrong with the loading linux thing? [00:25] <|Slacker|> nachox, takes too long in my netbook [00:26] just use suspend and resume, you'll be much happier, i promise you [00:27] hey guys... I have a question... with oss /dev/dsp I use my sound driver with oss right? if im right how I do it with alsa? [00:27] hmm the alsa api? :) [00:28] <|Slacker|> not possible, some people at home use it too and they prefer winblows [00:28] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:29] nachox, not really.. [00:29] I need an application to use ALSA... [00:29] it have the options "oss /dev/dsp" and "8780:L" [00:29] and I can specify one... [00:29] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [00:29] Hello People. [00:29] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:30] <|Slacker|> hey there bob [00:30] back in a minute [00:31] so I have rc.nfsd set to be non executable. But during start my computer takes forever until it says nfs timed out. [00:31] is it starting the nfs client that is timing out? [00:31] rc.rpc is set to be executable. [00:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:33] slackwarebob: are there any nfs partitions in your /etc/fstab ? [00:35] spook: there are. [00:35] thats whats timing out. [00:35] nfsd is the server daemon, last i checked [00:35] ah, I should probably set it to noauto. [00:35] Ignacio_ (n=Ignacio@190.51.60.80) joined ##slackware. [00:35] make them so they don't automount [00:36] :) [00:37] I'll be testing the nfs when I test my pm-suspend in a minute. [00:37] also make sure they are unmounted if you are roaming outside of where they can be mounted [00:38] rawr [00:39] ie if you suspend at home with a local nfs mounted and go to work and resume with that nfs still mounted you will have problems.\ [00:39] XGizzmo: I have had that happen before. It locks for long time. :) [00:39] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:40] XGizzmo: for roaming, I'll try to put some of this unmount stuff pm-suspend config, once I get it going. [00:40] okay, I'm going to boot into live cd so I can reformat my usb drive and put the iso onto my usb drive now. [00:40] peace [00:40] ShazbotMcNasty (n=ShazbotM@unaffiliated/shazbotmcnasty) left irc: "Leaving" [00:41] i dont understand... how several app's use the sound if /dev/dsp gets busy ? [00:42] becasue there is a sound server running that mixes the sound [00:43] or it is done in the driver [00:43] and if is alsa, how I redirect it to alsa? [00:43] you would set the app to use alsa [00:43] how> [00:43] ? [00:44] depends on the app [00:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] no, I mean on command line... for example.. [00:44] like if I start an app that uses alsa.. [00:44] I cant do like cat test.wav > /dev/dsp [00:44] it gets busy [00:44] so how can I redirect it? [00:45] Delahunt (n=robert@fa210-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [00:46] aoss I think will do it [00:47] only one thing can use the sound card at a time [00:47] /usr/bin/aoss: line 10: exec: test.wav: not found [00:48] it doesnt seem right.. [00:48] Action: slackwarebob just figured out linux can connect to the internet. [00:49] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.60.80) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:50] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@74.13.53.16) joined ##slackware. [00:51] hey, where to get dbus-devel ? [00:51] You use Debian now? [00:51] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:53] antiwire: you ask me ? [00:54] slackware does not have or need *-devl packages [00:54] XGizzmo got my joke [00:54] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:55] aha, I Just wanted to install someting from sources, but that's to difficult it seems. [00:55] xverse (i=0@a85-138-121-98.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:55] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:00] paul424, how is that too difficult? and what do you need to install? [01:01] Delahunt: http://pastebin.com/d4aa58431 [01:02] Gecko Media Player is a browser plugin that uses GNOME MPlayer to play media in a browser. [01:02] (per the website) [01:02] Slackware doesn't use Gnome unless you want to go grab one of the 3rd-party Gnome sets for Slackware [01:03] gxine will play stuff ina browser fwiw [01:03] paul424: That output is not showing you what it detects it needs, it is showing you a comprehensive list of deps, some of which you already (most likely) have. [01:03] Delahunt: I already use slackbuild gnome. [01:03] hmm wait then [01:04] did you say --prefix=/usr or whatnot? [01:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:04] antiwire: gxine is not handy. [01:04] I did not say to use gxine. [01:04] I have trying to give you advice on packages you may be missing. [01:04] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [01:04] either that or the thing is broke because it seems to understand --prefix=/usr but isn't trying i guess [01:04] Do you have xulrunner installed? what about GConf2? [01:05] antiwire: thanks, how can I list explictily I need ? [01:05] If you do have xulrunner installed, where did you get it from? [01:05] for example, it complains of needing gettext and that comes with Slackware (i have it on mine) [01:05] paul424: It is giving you a list right now. You need to have all of those installed. [01:05] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] s/need/miss [01:05] Again, I am pretty sure that is a comprehensive list, not a detected missing list. [01:06] yeah maybe [01:06] but if it is slackware-friendly why does it ask for -devel stuff? 8-S [01:06] xulrunner and Gconf2 are installed. [01:07] I compile it from sources using src2pkg. [01:07] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:08] Delahunt: How does that build mentioning its deps make or break Slackware's friendliness? That script is just doing what the author told it to do and has nothing to do with Slackware. [01:08] paul424: To prove what I'm getting at, Do you have gettext installed? [01:08] ohh there a slackbuild for it ? [01:09] antiwire: yes [01:09] See.... [01:09] s/?/! [01:09] That script is simply listing all of its own deps. NOT detected missing deps. [01:09] antiwire: yes I think the same. [01:09] antiwire: i think someone needs to say it for a 5th time [01:09] spook: seems like Delahunt wasn't following [01:10] antiwire: but the script is simply listing all of its own deps, not detected missing deps [01:10] I think you're right. [01:10] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:10] paul424: do you have gettext installed? [01:11] antiwire: yes, wait I try the slackbuild [01:11] Ignacio_ (n=Ignacio@190.51.60.80) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:11] spook: I think you're right about that script just listing deps and not detecting missing deps [01:11] spook: paul424 just said he has gettext installed. [01:11] antiwire: oh, i think you're right about him saying that. [01:12] no i was complaining that it seems to be slackware friendly (--prefix=/usr) but then they ask for -devel stuff, that's all [01:13] i wasn't saying "hey the script is broken" just that it's not very well designed. it should probably say "hey we don't have this" not "you don't have something, here's the list of stuff we need" [01:13] You notice that the paste also shows it using src2pkg right? [01:13] doesnt -devel just translate to -headers ? [01:13] Oh for fsck sake I give up [01:13] yes, ehem seems that my gnome sb is bad : http://pastebin.com/d18cf6df2 [01:13] antiwire: antiwire is giving up. [01:14] Action: Delahunt didn't notice src2pkg, thought it was a ./configure or something [01:14] spook: I think he's giving up because he feels like he is talking to himself. [01:15] antiwire: spook never started so can't give up. [01:15] spook: antiwire: spook: you can still pout though [01:16] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:16] pout n 1: a disdainful pouting grimace [syn: moue, wry face] [01:17] Why thank you paul424 [01:17] antiwire: spook: antiwire: spook: antiwire: i'd rather spend my time preparing the frozen eels [01:17] spook: antiwire thinks that paul424 is following along now [01:17] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.125.64) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:18] Seems my gnome package does not contain ghostutils.h. [01:18] paul424: can you paste us some more library bombs? I'm making wall paper out of them. [01:19] yeah sure :P [01:19] echo 0 > /dev/irc/freenode/slackware/antiwire/modes/pity-party [01:19] 8-) [01:20] hmm such device would be useful [01:20] are there PCI cards to connect USB or audio front panels? [01:21] dchmelik, yes but sometimes you don't even need those [01:21] I don't know about you but echoing into /dev is not condoned behavior. [01:21] check your motherboard, it may have USB and/or audio headers for connecting audio front panels to [01:21] I do for this new case I have, it has a lot of connectors on the front, and my system board only had 2 USB and no audio [01:21] s/dev/sys [01:23] my SB Audigy has no connector for the audio front panel either [01:23] but it has its own [01:23] [ -r /dev/giveadam ] ; echo $? [01:23] 1 [01:23] er, +n [01:26] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [01:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:30] dchmelik, when you unplug the connector from the card isn't there a header (i.e. metal pins sticking up out of the card)? [01:30] or is it permanently connected? [01:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:32] suid0 (i=1000@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:33] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.1-dev" [01:33] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [01:35] Delahunt, that is for other stuff. I could use the connectors on the front panel, but they are just a different size... it would still be nice to connect the case's ones.... [01:39] does anyone know a way to make a list of installed packaged by size [01:39] as in i want to see what the largest packages are so i can go thru the list and make more space on / [01:40] matt0 (n=matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:40] PACKAGES.TXT is your friend [01:40] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:41] Hi, I'm trying to install ushare on slackware and it fails to load a shared library " libixml.so.2", Does anyone know where I can find this dependency? [01:41] I know it's not exactly a slackware question [01:42] there's an "i" in that? [01:42] matt0: did you do a full install of slackware? [01:42] talso (n=talso@S0106000d7ebd5235.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] spook, Well I didn't install every package [01:43] I'm running 12.2 [01:43] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.60.237) joined ##slackware. [01:43] matt0: that sounds like a no to me. [01:43] Wait I think I see the package in the repo [01:44] matt0, if you meant libxml.so.2 and not libixml.so.2 (which i think was merely a typo) you need to install the libxml2 package [01:45] matt0: thats why i recommend doing a full install. unless you know what you're doing. [01:45] matt0 (n=matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "wut" [01:47] hrmmm, maybe there is a libixml too [01:47] suid0 (i=1000@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [01:47] that's annoyingly similar to libxml for my taste [01:48] ShazbotMcNasty (n=ShazbotM@unaffiliated/shazbotmcnasty) joined ##slackware. [01:48] it's been like an hour and the .iso is not yet on the damn USb [01:48] this is a big ass iso [01:49] ShazbotMcNasty: its about 4gig [01:49] can anyone write down the first 8 prime numbers for me? [01:49] yeah I know :/ [01:50] 2; 3; 5; 7; 11; 13; 17; 19 [01:50] thanks. [01:50] :| [01:50] now what is (2 x 3 x 5) x (7+11+13+17+19) ? [01:51] 97 [01:51] between the parens is a mult, not a sum [01:51] mancha: 2010 [01:52] spook, yes, that is why this year the world ends. [01:52] oh 30x67 [01:52] sorry [01:52] oh [01:52] cool [01:52] mancha: or its the year that jesus comes back, or the year of the linux desktop [01:52] the year of the linux desktop hopefully [01:52] well actually, i like not having that many people using linux [01:52] the thought of google making linux Os's scares me [01:53] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:53] or an arbitary mathematical coincidence with an arbitary solar year numbering system [01:53] because if that goes big, then we have to actually start worrying about linux viruses n' stuff [01:53] ShazbotMcNasty: is that why you truly believe there are no linux viruses? [01:53] google is doing some interesting stuff lately...i like the direction chrome's headed, i like their public dns.... [01:53] spook, wat [01:54] because there are linux viruses. [01:54] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.11.186) left irc: Connection timed out [01:54] I know [01:54] but not that many [01:54] if the user base grows exponentially, as will the virus number [01:54] s/virus/malware [01:54] and the number of users doesnt have much at all to do with their spread or the number of viruses [01:55] not directly, but usually, the more users, the more people attracted to make malware for that OS [01:56] viruses also have a more pleasant experience in windows where almost all users run their boxes as root [01:56] yep [01:56] viruses love ring 0 [01:57] I just like to think I that I have the freedom to do whatever I want to do on linux. And not have to worry about malware. [01:57] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-251-144.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:58] but you do. [01:58] didn't you hear about the recent screesaver on some debian site? [01:58] I've worked on more than one nix box that's gotten rooted. [01:58] and it's not always incompetent admins. [01:59] i am unrootable! [02:00] Shaz, here for some recent malware news: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html~ [02:00] fix the url, ends, in html (last char is a typo) [02:01] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-116-225.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:02] yeah [02:02] tilde ~ [02:02] finally [02:02] it's on the USB [02:02] going to reboot now [02:03] well [02:03] attempt to install slackware [02:03] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-224-80.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [02:04] ShazbotMcNasty (n=ShazbotM@unaffiliated/shazbotmcnasty) left irc: "Leaving" [02:08] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:10] epoch (n=epoch@adsl-99-155-152-190.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] would any of you awesome 2010 guys know how to mount a usb camera under slackware [02:10] usb style or SD card style [02:11] Depends on the camera [02:11] canon powershot sd1200 IS digital ELPH [02:11] Is is in mass storage mode? [02:11] try gphoto2 [02:11] how would i determine ? [02:11] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.125.64) joined ##slackware. [02:11] dmesg should say [02:11] *** Error *** [02:11] Could not detect any camera [02:11] *** Error (-105: 'Unknown model') *** [02:12] Channel flood from epoch -- kicking [02:12] sorry for the paste [02:12] epoch kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [02:12] yes! [02:12] epoch (n=epoch@adsl-99-155-152-190.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:12] arcfide (n=arcfide@fl-76-2-117-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [02:12] LOL [02:12] thats gphoto2 output by the way [02:12] antiwire: that was awesome. [02:12] lol [02:12] kicked for appologising [02:12] good ol rfc 1459? [02:13] thats from ghoto2 --list-cameras ? [02:13] nah [02:13] ill try that though right now [02:13] or --auto-detgect [02:13] SD1200 doesn't show up in gphoto2 --list-cameras here [02:13] "Canon Powershot SD1100 IS" [02:14] thats the closest i get [02:14] i have a SD1200 [02:14] damn! [02:14] camera too new [02:14] Does "dmesg" after plugging it in show anything pertinent? It might be in mass storage mode [02:14] just buy a cheap usb card reader [02:14] one second [02:15] XGizzmo, ty man... aoss went just fine.. [02:15] http://www.pastebin.ca/1735930 [02:15] dmesg output ^ [02:15] i knew that there was something to do with alsa and oss but I couldn't remember.. [02:15] the bill gates chip in my brain is starting to go haywire [02:16] may have to reboot for this one :< [02:16] camera is too new for gphoto2 by just a HAIR [02:16] epoch: keep talking dirty, it turns me on [02:16] it's maddening [02:16] antiwire: AD=2 Me=0 [02:17] antiwire, im still waiting for the last 2 checks [02:17] seems the 1200 is the same as the 1100 in terms of transfer protocol. patch your gphoto [02:17] pay up [02:17] antiwire: err sorry, AD=3 ME=0 [02:17] epoch: see /lib/udev/rules.d/90-libgphoto2.rules [02:17] Find this line: [02:17] ATTRS{idVendor}=="04a9", ATTRS{idProduct}=="31c2", MODE="0660", OWNER="root", GROUP="plugdev" [02:17] agentc0re: AD will kill even the heartiest [02:17] Copy it but change the 31c2 to 31c4 [02:17] looks extremely and excessively scary but ok [02:17] one second [02:18] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:18] Guest46460 (n=root@ppp-124-120-138-245.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. 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Yes, try rescan [02:20] well, first, do "udevadm trigger" [02:20] find the line with 3184, copy it just below and change the 3184 to 31c4 [02:20] Then replug the camera, then scan again [02:21] antiwire: even worse, hardware failure in the middle of the whole thing. Ram failure, Old SD PC133 ECC Bufferred Paired dimms only type too. i have nothing like that. [02:21] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [02:22] ugh [02:22] rworkman, my camera version doesnt come up in the gphoto scan list [02:22] couple of unknown ones, 2 to be exact [02:22] "Canon PowerShot unknown 1" [02:22] "Canon PowerShot unknown 2" [02:23] gphoto2 --auto-detect [02:23] USB PTP Class Camera usb: [02:23] USB PTP Class Camera usb:001,006 [02:23] what can i do with that information? [02:23] Action: epoch definitely learning something new here [02:24] you take down their gibson with that informatio [02:24] That means gphoto2 will work, I think. I don't recall the syntax to *use* gphoto2 (I have to google it every time I need it), but that's a good sign [02:24] antiwire: this damn thing has been the main DC for ever, running accounting apps on top with also being the one and only file server.... P3 1Ghz, 512Mb ram(now only 256 since one is dead but i can't tell which one because it has to be in "pairs"). The idiot who built made a OS Array and File system array instead of one huge array and partitioning it.. So the OS array was only 4G. [02:24] gphoto2 --list-files [02:25] mancha, awesomeness [02:26] agentc0re: I've learned something over the last few months; The jerk who initially configured a system with lack of foresight is never the one around when the system reaches its limits. [02:26] rworkman, awesomeness [02:26] the files are listed [02:26] mancha, how would i say "move everything to /directory" [02:26] There are 66 files in folder '/store_00010001/DCIM/100CANON'. [02:26] get-all-files [02:27] woohooo! [02:27] antiwire: tell me about it. Maybe it's done purposefully and this is what they're saying; "Hahahaha, i bet that guy will be sayin how stupid we were but the jokes on him" [02:27] someone get this guy a towel [02:27] my christmas camera ISNT too new [02:27] :) [02:27] thanks rworkman [02:27] you damn well know alot about slackware [02:27] Glad it works :) [02:27] I should. [02:29] 10 bucks says that model is added to the next release [02:29] hiptobecubic: HAHHA, is that you in a purple suit? [02:30] ohdannyboy (n=dan@pool-96-254-20-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:32] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:32] http://urlg.in/1gd lol, "These are industry standard notches" [02:34] thanks a ton [02:34] gotta run =) [02:34] epoch (n=epoch@adsl-99-155-152-190.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:35] He's much nicer when he's no longer anonymous. [02:38] epoch (n=epoch@adsl-99-155-152-190.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:39] one last question...might be a simple one for someone...all the pictures i just downloaded from my digital camera (thanks again) are like 2mb, even though theyre saved as .JPG, any clue how to mass-resize them? [02:40] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-224-80.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:41] convert(1) from imagemagick [02:42] Why does the top cmd takes 40 % of cpu ? I am hacked or what ? [02:42] hmm [02:42] paul424: top itself is occupying that?? [02:42] yes [02:42] paul424: spec's? and what's free -m show? [02:42] paul424: I don't know about hacked, but that's certainly odd [02:45] agentc0re: hmm all the physical mem is being used. [02:45] epoch: e.g. for i in *.JPG ; do convert -scale 1024x768 $i $(basename $i .JPG)-convert.jpg ; mv $(basename $i .JPG)-convert.jpg $(basename $i .JPG).jpg ; done [02:45] untested, but you get the idea :) [02:46] I remember that there was, indeed, a top based rootkit in the past [02:46] I forget the name though [02:46] paul424: paste bin please. [02:47] oh ok I just did killall top as root. Seems some process was hanging [02:50] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:50] n3rd (n=whoami@122.167.88.176) joined ##slackware. [02:54] damn rworkman you rock [02:54] thanks again :D [02:55] epoch (n=epoch@adsl-99-155-152-190.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:56] I guess that means it worked :) [02:58] rworkman: aka real working man :D [02:59] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-151-211.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] ShazbotMcNasty (n=ShazbotM@unaffiliated/shazbotmcnasty) joined ##slackware. [03:01] Hey, I've installed slackware, and it said that it was done, and I could reboot. [03:01] BUT [03:02] I boot and I get GRUB> [03:02] and I don't know what to do. :< [03:02] If I enter "boot" it says I have to load kernel first [03:02] if I enter "kernel" it asks for a pathname [03:03] I do not know the path, as I just did a full install. [03:03] ick, ah, there is some dd crazyness to remove grub from the mbr IIRC. [03:03] dchmelik, like i said, check your motherboard and cards for headers. also, i think once (but only once) i saw a motherboard that has audio output that works "through" the cards (i.e. the motherboard I guess got input from the sound card to pass to those headers). just check motherboard and sound card manual.... [03:03] ShazbotMcNasty: did you install lilo to mbr? [03:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:04] agentc0re, no, because I wasn't sure if it would let me choose what hard drive to isntall it to because I've got two. [03:04] One for windows, one for linux [03:04] and it's because I've got grub on the mbr right? [03:04] So what did you expect then?? [03:04] hyke (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:05] "I didn't get tea with my meal." "Did you order tea?" "No." [03:05] I forgot that I had grub on the mbr [03:05] i think the best is to boot the slackware dvd back up, mount the hd with slack, chroot and rerun lilo. [03:05] You brought a coke into the restaurant with you, and you didn't order tea, and now you wonder why you have a coke to drink... [03:05] Yes, what agentc0re said :) [03:06] alrighty, I'll do that. [03:06] ShazbotMcNasty (n=ShazbotM@unaffiliated/shazbotmcnasty) left irc: "Leaving" [03:06] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:06] lol [03:07] ShazbotMcNasty: no worries .. just use the disk /dvd and boot ,say "huge.s root=/dev/hdxx (you are suppose to know) rw" [03:07] dang.. i'm late :-/ i hate my isp.. [03:07] hehe [03:07] "People like my analogies." [03:07] ;-) [03:08] yea.. and you scare them off too ;P [03:09] :) [03:10] So many people don't understand this, but: just because you're not getting the kind of "help" you want does NOT mean you aren't getting help. [03:12] sometimes it hurts so good [03:17] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:19] Action: Delahunt high fives rworkman [03:20] if you're not getting the help you want, it's possible that the person who is trying to help you has been there / done that and is trying to steer you clear of an accident waiting to happen (and/or has seen tons of people go down that road only to fall off the proverbial cliff) [03:22] if you are not the help you want mostly other end of the world is sleeping. :P [03:22] suvir (n=suvir@ppp-124-120-138-245.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:23] s/not/not getting/ [03:24] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-174.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:26] ShazbotMcNasty (n=ShazbotM@unaffiliated/shazbotmcnasty) joined ##slackware. [03:26] Hi... [03:27] I tried to join this room through irssi in bash while trying to boot slackware, but it said I was banned...hopefully I wasn't. [03:27] BUT [03:27] to cut to the chase- it says there's no screen found [03:28] ShazbotMcNasty, uh, ok, please pastebin at least the output of lspci and dmesg [03:28] 00:27 -!- 6 - ##slackware: ban *!n=root@* [by slackboy, 4138 secs ago] [03:28] you may have been banned due to using root to IRC [03:28] which is dangerous (so you were banned for your own protection) [03:28] ah, yeah, that would make sense [03:28] "no screen found" ?? Did you try to start X or something from the installer??? [03:29] no [03:29] I moved lilo to the mbr [03:29] it boots [03:29] but when it tries to start x it says no screen found [03:29] Oh, so now you're trying to do "startx" from inside the real system? [03:29] is that bad? [03:29] Did you do a full install of Slackware, or did you omit some packages? [03:29] full install [03:30] I can't pastebin the output because I'm booted into windows because I couldn't get into this room in irc [03:30] (this is IRC...) [03:30] in slackware* [03:30] sorry, I'm all flustered [03:31] girlfriend wants to go to sleep [03:31] this happened in my last distro that I wanted to get rid of because I was sick of it. [03:32] well we'd still need (when you come back) lspci or at least to know what lspci says your graphics card is [03:32] But I did 'mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old' then 'killall gdm && gdm' and it worked [03:32] AH [03:33] Why did you putthe xorg.conf there to start with? [03:33] you tried it without an xorg.conf and it found no screens? was HAL enabled? [03:33] graphics card is nvidia GeForce 7050 [03:33] It worked withoutthe xorg.conf. That's exactly what was supposed to happen. [03:34] oh ok i see, you moved it OUT [03:34] good, yeah... my badd [03:34] rworkman, I didn't touch the xorg.conf before - that's just what I was told to do by a guy in #ubuntu after it stopped working [03:34] HAHAHA [03:34] Don't ask Ubuntu people for help with Slackware. [03:34] it wasn't slackware [03:34] It was crunchband [03:34] crunchbang [03:34] Now I'm confused. [03:34] when I had that problem [03:34] okay [03:34] lol [03:34] I'm going to come back tomorrow and figure this out [03:35] I have to go to bed before girlfriend gets mad [03:35] I'm tired, sorry for confusing you. [03:38] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@unaffiliated/urthwrm) joined ##slackware. [03:42] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC307F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:44] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.234) joined ##slackware. [03:46] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:47] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [03:50] Avi_ (n=Avi@122.170.32.30) joined ##slackware. [03:51] Avi_ (n=Avi@122.170.32.30) left irc: Client Quit [03:51] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [03:51] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [03:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.32.30) joined ##slackware. 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[05:01] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC307F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [05:03] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:05] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [05:05] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [05:06] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [05:11] redtricycle: horrible [05:11] aah. [05:12] hey , i just tried to installed slackware, and reboot it. [05:12] But it fail to reboot [05:12] show some error; "disk boot failure" [05:13] and next time when i tried to re-install it, it said: "you have no permisson to write" [05:13] when i enter in cfdisk ,partition menu. [05:13] :( [05:14] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:14] i'm trying to remap Mod4 to Caps_Lock... anybody know a quick and painless way to do this? [05:15] sahilsk, is there a RAID controller? [05:15] i don't know [05:15] but i now have installed ubuntu. without any problem. [05:16] but i need to install slackware.:( [05:16] i don't have window install. [05:16] sahilsk, pastebin the output of dmesg [05:17] :( [05:17] dmesg? [05:17] newbie here. :D [05:21] sahilsk, in a text console, type "dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.txt" and paste that at http://pastebin.com [05:24] http://pastebin.com/m5849a46d [05:29] agentc0re, actually, it's my head poorly photoshopped onto lenny kravitz's body in a purple suit :D [05:30] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-152-231-203.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [05:31] ? [05:31] so, what next after pastebin? [05:31] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@173-149-115-222.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [05:31] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B4C33.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:43] uh huh, been cosulting it [05:44] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:46] arghh2d2, run "xev" and press the button you want the map for [05:46] Caps_Lock [05:47] it also gives key code [05:47] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [05:48] hello All. I trying to start firefox from konsole: "firefox &", and many times before it was OK, but now it tells "Error: display not specified". What's wrong? [05:49] dfrank: you're trying to run it as root, arent you? [05:49] spook: of course, NO [05:49] Delahunt: i ran xev and it didnt run right possibly cuz im in a tiler [05:49] dfrank: double check, "whoami" in the console you got the error in [05:50] spook: check is passed: i am "dimon" [05:51] arghh2d2, should be Caps_Lock [05:51] dfrank: echo $DISPLAY [05:51] :0.0 [05:51] Delahunt: i wanna say you big thanks for help with ALSA sound recently:) [05:52] dfrank, no problem, i live to serve [05:52] spook: hm, returns empty :-/ [05:52] spook: where should $DISPLAY get a value? [05:53] dfrank: when you open a console in X it should get set correctly. export DISPLAY=:0.0 will work. question is why it wasnt set [05:55] spook: thanks. actually, it is yakuake (quake-style console), i have installed new font and restarted yakuake manually. Now i will try to restart X.. [05:55] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-201-124.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [05:55] Delahunt: xev doesnt brings up a little whit window with a little black square that does nothing when i click on it and nothing when i hit keys [05:55] that's odd [05:57] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.72.120) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:57] even in a floater [05:57] openbox [05:58] spook: i have restarted X and all comes OK back ;) thank you. [05:58] dfrank: i thought it might :) [05:59] exit [06:00] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [06:00] oops :-/ [06:00] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: "leaving" [06:00] aaah [06:01] i think , i should try again to reinstall slackware... [06:01] reinstall? why? [06:01] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [06:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:01] bcoz it fail , [06:01] now i stuck with ubuntu [06:02] was this a full install? [06:02] ubuntu yes. [06:02] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-205-230.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [06:02] slackware [06:02] but i was installing slackware, from a dvd, [06:02] when whole steps finished and i reboot my system, [06:03] it's show me "Disk boot failure" [06:03] message [06:03] i don't why.?, i follow the instructioin.. [06:03] i installed the bootloader in the MBR [06:03] ubuntu uses grub right? [06:03] yes [06:04] i saw the grub message too [06:04] i don't know if maybe there is a custom GRUB removal procedure [06:04] sth, grub: rescue ..... [06:05] hey, out of various partition, which one should i made "BOOTable" [06:05] the one for root, or home or swap? [06:05] root [06:05] in cfdisk [06:06] ok, and does slackware has no provision for automaically selection of my network setting [06:06] as in ubuntu [06:06] what do you mean auto select network setting? how does ubuntu do it? [06:06] netconfig [06:06] and select dhcp and a hostname [06:07] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) joined ##slackware. [06:08] ya , dhcp setting [06:08] and all [06:08] i don't know, my host name and subnet , netmask etc [06:08] domain name etc [06:09] i don't need to specify any of those settings. ubuntu detects it automatically, when i connect my modem to it. [06:10] no it doesn't [06:10] it sets an hostname and uses dhcp [06:10] man, i have just finish installing ubunut [06:10] karmic [06:10] man ... we don't care [06:10] but i care [06:11] ShazbotMcNasty (n=ShazbotM@unaffiliated/shazbotmcnasty) left irc: "Leaving" [06:11] how can i setup my hostname and domain name adn all, if i don't know any of these [06:11] netconfig [06:11] like i already set [06:11] said* [06:12] netconfig... hmm [06:12] sahilsk (n=sahilsk@59.177.42.56) left irc: [06:13] sahilsk (n=sahilsk@59.177.42.56) joined ##slackware. [06:13] aah [06:13] back again [06:14] so, i'll leave the setting this time. [06:14] ok , guys cya [06:14] sahilsk (n=sahilsk@59.177.42.56) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:20] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-093-026.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:21] sahilsk (n=sahilsk@59.177.42.56) joined ##slackware. [06:22] sahilsk (n=sahilsk@59.177.42.56) left ##slackware. [06:23] sahilsk (n=sahilsk@59.177.42.56) joined ##slackware. [06:23] aaah [06:23] same problem [06:23] opened disk, you have no permissin to write [06:23] how can i get rid of this message? [06:24] cfdisk [06:24] ?? [06:24] run it as root [06:24] i was root [06:24] i am installing it from dvd. [06:25] maybe you're trying to open the dvd and not the hd drive [06:25] sahilsk: is it the *exact* error message? [06:25] when i enter in the partition menu, by cfdisk [06:25] it shw me the similar message [06:25] open ... you have no permissin to write [06:26] and shows me only swap partition [06:26] rest partition were not there [06:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [06:26] sahilsk: which disk are you opening? [06:27] cfdisk, for partition menu [06:27] i was nt opening any disk [06:27] you just run "cfdisk", not "cfdisk /dev/hda" (or sda, or whatever)? [06:27] yes [06:27] just cfdisk [06:28] here's your error [06:28] nooo. i read the documentation, there nothing llike that written [06:28] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-151-211.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [06:28] JUST TELLL IT WHICH DISK IT SHOULD USE [06:29] and the very first time when i tried to install slackware ,it doesn't say anything lke that. [06:29] it was going smoothly. though at that time i didn't have ubuntu install. [06:30] if you don't tell it anything, it defaults to something which is probably the dvd as goarilla said (and iirc that's what it does) [06:30] how do you want cfdisk to know which disk to edit? [06:30] and now ,when i try to use command like /mnt, it say [06:30] you have no permission [06:31] . [06:31] so, probably, this time, if i try cfdisk /dev/hda, it may reply : YOU HAVE NO PERMISSION. [06:31] :( [06:33] ? [06:34] run: fdisk -l [06:34] which /dev/XdX has your partitions? [06:34] hda [06:35] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E70E0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:35] sorry, it's sda [06:36] so, run "cfdisk /dev/sda" [06:37] k, then you thinks it won't show me "permission etc" messages [06:38] i am in ubuntu terminal [06:38] all these command are working well [06:38] though i am a root user too. [06:38] :D [06:40] ... [06:40] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:42] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:44] "Open disk read-only - you have no permission to write." [06:45] you should be root during installation [06:45] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8E41F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] i.e. busybox should make you root regardless [06:45] i was [06:45] so this error is weird [06:45] hdparm -r 0 /dev/whatever ? [06:46] i am about to try this too. [06:46] gotta try it.. [06:46] restart.. again :( [06:46] cya [06:46] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.163.199) joined ##slackware. [06:46] sahilsk (n=sahilsk@59.177.42.56) left ##slackware. [06:51] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:56] How can I install Slackware with lxde, instead of xfce? [06:56] you can go find a package for lxde [06:57] like on alienBOBs web page [06:57] kleanchap, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [06:57] bookmark that, you will need it again [07:00] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:00] you don't really "install slackware with lxde", it's called you install slackware then install lxde [07:03] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@unaffiliated/urthwrm) joined ##slackware. [07:04] Delahunt, Thnx. [07:05] i wonder tho if pat is going to release slackware with lxde soon [07:06] this is just my personal opinion (so don't take it offensively) but patrick changed the packaging on slackware rather than go to two DVDs [07:06] if kde and friends increase in side (as they seem to do with every release) i doubt lxde will fit [07:06] yeha i know but there are some things that come with slackware [07:06] granted they could drop blackbox in favor of it but that's just my opinion [07:06] that don't work [07:06] like cryptdir [07:06] it doesn't work unless you dl packages that don't come with wslackware [07:07] toastytoast, have you emailed patrick about this yet? [07:07] its already been brought up as early as 02 i beleive [07:07] he said he planned to remove cryptdir [07:07] but hasn't yet [07:07] have you personally emailed him about it yet? [07:08] as good as he is with slackware, he's still human, despite how godlike we think he is 8-) [07:08] no i haven't so i supose in that respect ic an't rlly say anything [07:08] as for wicd, it came broken, known issue, but it can also be fixed (i emailed him about it) [07:08] but it's in /extra so it may not get done [07:09] i'm not sure where cryptdir is [07:09] bzgrep cryptdir MANIFEST.BZ2 i think [07:13] burobengen (n=joga@ti0121a340-0132.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [07:16] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslc-082-082-078-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:18] but i think maybe there coudl be more non working app/scripts etc that slackware comes with and is isntalled with the full isntall that without could save some disk space whihc coul eb another way to reduce install media size [07:18] but the problem i see is getting peopel to go through all the programs etc and findoing those oens that don't work [07:18] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-093-026.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:18] toastytoast, patrick likes to receive emails with our requests and ideas [07:19] whats his email or woudl i send it to info@slackware.com? [07:20] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:20] iirc volkerdi@slackware.com [07:20] ty [07:21] but don't mention me. this conversation never happened 8-) [07:22] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.163.199) left irc: "leaving" [07:22] lol you don't have anything to do with what i'm writing the email about [07:22] and i'm sure there are other ways of getting pats email adress [07:22] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.74.196) joined ##slackware. [07:22] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:23] evereybody is talking about pat as if they were coleagues in kindergarden [07:24] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:24] i was [07:24] he is one of ym bestest fwiends [07:24] do you spell kindergarten? [07:24] or kindergarden? [07:25] well isn't kindergarten the proper way to spell it? [07:25] i think eihter way tho people know what you're talking about [07:26] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.72.120) joined ##slackware. [07:27] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@cl-185.mrs-01.fr.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [07:27] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-172.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:30] How do I check the wireless network setup in Slackware? I have Dell with Broadcom wifi. [07:31] ifconfig wlan0 ? [07:31] kleanchap: which model? [07:31] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.227.70) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:31] Camarade_Tux, Broadcom 802.11g [07:32] oh and Delahunt i was pretty sure the wicd package in /extra works you sjut need to add the suer to netdev group [07:32] user* [07:32] Razec (i=1000@187-27-242-11.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:33] kleanchap: more precisely: what does lspci says? [07:33] Camarade_Tux, How do I find that out? [07:33] I meant, I am currently in Windows. [07:34] Don't know how to find that out. [07:34] boot into a livecd and check? [07:34] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-115-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:35] After I get that info what do I need to do? Is it a lengthy process? [07:36] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:36] windows may write it somewhere, dunno (device manager will most probably tell, or the "network connections" thing may too) [07:36] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslc-082-082-078-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:36] hold on... [07:36] kleanchap: it should be something in 43xx (4312, 4306...), tell us the number [07:38] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [07:38] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:38] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:38] okay, so i have this machine, and it has 2 ethernet ports. eth1 and eth2 [07:39] I would like this machine to act as a DHCP server for the rest of my network. [07:39] im having a hard time finding any documentation on this. [07:40] My mind is telling me I need to do something with the machines routing table, iptables, and ip_forwarding [07:40] but the details escape me. [07:40] toastytoast, um, no, thanks for assuming i don't know what i'm talking about. read the wicd page. they tell you up front that 1.6.2.1 has a nasty bug and to upgrade to 1.6.2.2 [07:41] Xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Connection reset by peer [07:41] Xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:42] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslc-082-082-085-114.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-252-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [07:43] there [07:43] Camarade_Tux, The network adapters list is "Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller" and "Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter" [07:49] lowkyalu2 (n=low@dslb-088-070-117-061.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:49] beatzz: dhcp server docs are all over the place [07:49] well yea, they are. [07:50] i understand how to edit dhcpd.conf [07:50] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.227.70) joined ##slackware. [07:50] but how to make slackware work properly w/ a dhcp server [07:50] is my question [07:50] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: [07:50] like, what else must i do. [07:50] i've enabled ip_forward [07:50] i havent done anything to route / iptables yet [07:51] search google for iptables and masquerading [07:51] meh srry Delahunt [07:52] I have several slackware machines acting as dhcp servers with a generic dhcp response for machines I don't know and specific hosts that I allow internet access [07:52] I even have one machine with 3 nics with a local and dmz setup [07:53] toastytoast, it's ok, i'm not mad at you, just sort of annoying. granted i bet i do that too so i'm not saying me > you [07:53] alisonken1home, so would this command get my iptables correct? [07:53] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-115-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:53] iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface eth0 -j MASQUERADE iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface eth1 -j ACCEPT [07:54] I have a question: how do big serves like gmail for example, store their data? how they protect the e-mails stored against harddrive damage and all? [07:54] shadowx (n=7350@93.183.142.147) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:54] They can't possible store the same data twice, in 2 places... [07:54] Azeotrope: don't bet on it [07:55] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B4C33.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:55] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:55] beatzz: it's been a while and that machine is at the other office [07:55] alisonken1home, would alienBOB 's firewall generator script help? [07:55] they do that? [07:56] Azeotrope: I don't know their setup, but don't assume that they only keep data in one spot [07:56] beatzz: the machine I setup is running slackware 8 that I setup about 6 years ago - and except for security updates I haven't touched it since then [07:59] just keep in mind, dhcp services are not related to routing/iptables for forwarding local machines to the internet [07:59] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslc-082-082-085-114.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] which alienBOB's firewall script? [08:00] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [08:01] aaarrrggg i said -Os not -O2 [08:01] Action: Delahunt stabs gcc and make for not paying attention to CFLAGS [08:01] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC307F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [08:01] war9407 (i=war@liquidswords.org) joined ##slackware. [08:01] Does anyone here have a (new) Radeon 5XXX card (the ones that support eye infinity) working under Linux with Xinerama? (until the driver supports Eye Infinity?) [08:01] they are exported, dangit, you should be paying attention to them since you got my -march and -mtune right [08:02] I just can't stop thinking of the amount of data is passing each second through the ether... Govt comm, banking, radio, GPS... [08:05] alisonken1home, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/DHCP_Server_Howto [08:05] check that out, tell me what you think of it. [08:06] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [08:06] first off - make sure the option domain-name-servers is modified for your setup [08:06] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [08:06] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:07] and the option routers is set with the ip of the actual router ip that you're using [08:07] thats a question i had [08:07] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [08:07] how do you know what your domain name server is? [08:07] i mean shure, /etc/resolve.conf [08:07] but that file gives me nothing [08:07] this dns config assumes you are your own dns server [08:07] resolv.conf is just how _that_ machine accesses a dns server [08:08] well, i would like to make a dns server as well [08:09] thats bind right? [08:09] bind is one option yes [08:10] okay well for the sake of at least getting the DHCP working [08:10] could i jsut find a dns server ip address and put it in there? [08:10] ignore the parts about single host assignments, [08:10] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.102.213) joined ##slackware. [08:10] 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 is google public dns servers [08:10] nice [08:11] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Excess Flood [08:11] Agiofws (n=nnAgiofw@athedsl-430072.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [08:11] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [08:11] and i would set this piece here [08:11] option routers 192.168.1.1; [08:11] to the ip address of eth1 on my machine? [08:11] while i connect a switch to eth2? [08:11] as long as your router IP _for the local interface_ is 192.168.1.1, yes [08:12] Agiofws (n=nnnAgiof@athedsl-430072.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:12] rapid_ (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [08:12] im a bit confused is what im talkin about even possible [08:12] actually, I connect eth0 to the local network, and eth1 to the dsl (or whatever your internet connection is) [08:12] to have the internet traffic come in on eth1 [08:12] be filtered [08:12] and sent to machines via eth2 on the other side [08:13] what about eth0? [08:13] for some reason when i installed card #2 [08:13] it changed eth0 -> eth1 [08:13] so i have eth1 eth2 [08:13] ok - that was udev [08:13] is it acceptable for now? [08:14] as long as you know how you're setup on the hardware side and it doesn't change again, yes [08:14] mmk [08:14] so is what i am picturing in my head possible? [08:15] I have wrote vga=791 at my lilo.conf and compile kernel with savagefb enabled but kenrel won`t start in high resolution mode - why ? [08:15] are you just wanting your local machines to access the internet or have internet requests come in and talk to your local machines? [08:15] internet traffic ----->------> {eth1}---> iptables----> ipforward--> {eth2}------> [switch]----> pc 1/2/3 [08:15] unless you have a need for pc1/2/3 to be publicly accessible, don't think of it that way [08:16] this "router" im trying to create will also be my httpd server [08:16] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@173-149-115-222.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:16] it will server as DHCP/http/and possibly email later [08:16] im not shure what u mean by ur question r have internet requests come in and talk to your local machines? [08:16] Delahunt (n=robert@fa210-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [08:16] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [08:17] hey all [08:17] httpd server on the router is easy - just keep in mind what your router does locally is not part of the setup for sharing your internet with the other machines [08:17] right [08:17] but the computers i connect to my switch [08:17] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:17] router httpd service is local to the router and has nothing to do with forwarding/masquerading eth2 to eth1 [08:17] i want to be able to communicate w/ the internet [08:18] Axius (n=ade@92.82.91.124) joined ##slackware. [08:18] am i not makeing any scence? [08:18] right - and again, your dhcp service on the router is not part of the internet sharing [08:18] i feel retarted [08:18] no - you're just thinking that all services are related and they're not [08:18] the only common is eth1 [08:18] okay, so theres dhcp. [08:18] dhcp for eth2 [08:19] then forwarding of packets to other machines is something else [08:19] correct? [08:19] masq/forward eth2 to eth1 [08:19] and that's it [08:19] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-14-200.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] forwarding packets that originate from the internet to local machines is different yest [08:19] yes [08:19] as3w5 (n=chatmon@188.24.248.239) joined ##slackware. [08:19] iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface eth0 -j MASQUERADE iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface eth1 -j ACCEPT [08:20] would that acomplish the forwarding of packets ? [08:20] no [08:20] someone mind helping me add slackware to my grub ? [08:20] your eth numbers are not the same as what you posted earlier [08:20] slackware is on /dev/sda4 [08:20] well, okay [08:20] alisonken1home, aside from that. [08:21] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [08:22] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [08:23] c0s (n=sys@151.65.147.233) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Hello [08:24] beatzz should be ok [08:24] Would you recommend slackware to a beginner? [08:24] i can get help in russian here ? [08:24] btw - when you start dhcp, make sure it's only listening on your local network nic, not the internet side [08:24] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:24] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [08:25] c0s: possibly not, but it's hard to tell [08:28] alisonken1home i will try sorry my english i need help with install wifi on slackware 13 [08:28] beatzz: but like I said, it's been a while [08:28] c0s: did you look at the wicd package in /extra? [08:28] no [08:28] tell me how [08:28] mount the slackware cd [08:29] yes [08:29] change into slackware/extra [08:29] 'installpkg wicd" [08:29] installpkg wicd* [08:29] goarilla: thanks [08:29] anyone know if psychicist is maintaining his MIPS port? [08:30] Can someone answer my question? [08:30] sorry - cd to slackware/extra/wicd [08:30] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.72.120) left irc: Connection timed out [08:30] YES as3w5 [08:30] then 'installpkg wicd*.txz' [08:30] goarilla: Thank you very much. :) [08:30] as3w5: have to ask it first [08:30] I have asked, look up! :) [08:31] looked up :) [08:31] as3w5: i only recommend slackware to begginers. but only those who are willing to get their hands dirty, read the documentation and search the internet for answers to the problems they encounter [08:31] anyway - I have a 70y/o grandpa running slackware after he got fed up with windows viruses [08:31] Axius (n=ade@92.82.91.124) left irc: "Leaving" [08:31] as3w5: start with the slackbook link in the channel topic [08:31] Hahahha...nice! :) [08:31] nice one \o/ [08:31] Thank you so much guys! :D [08:31] alisonken1home: KDE 4? [08:32] slackware13, so yes, 4.2 [08:32] my mom is in her mid 70s and she run slackware too, she prefers kde-3.x so i kept 12.2 on her machine [08:32] i never quite gotten KDE configured to my liking [08:32] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:32] it always has seemed unstable and slow to me [08:33] .; [08:33] ] [08:33] kde-3.x is fine with me, it is qt4 & kde-4.x is what i dont like [08:34] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-026-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] yeah the 4 series is even more fisher pricey [08:34] kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic ro root=/dev/sda4 [08:34] initrd /initrd.img-2.6.31-16-generic [08:34] how does that look ? [08:34] lowkyalu2 (n=low@dslb-088-070-117-061.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:34] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] you better make sure that is the correct kernel image / version number [08:35] doesn't initrd have to point to initrd.gz ? [08:35] macman: as long as the intird.img is the correct one for that kernel it should be ok [08:35] usually vmlinuz is enough without all the naming [08:35] ok brb [08:35] don't i have to add an optoin to boot [08:35] Pig_Pen: assuming you only have one kernel on the machine, true [08:35] i have 2 [08:36] i have 4 [08:36] all stock kernels even [08:36] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:36] vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic ; vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic [08:36] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:36] generic, generic-smp, huge, huge-smp [08:37] I only need the *-smp kernels [08:37] allend (n=allend@CPE-203-51-165-85.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:37] huge for backup and generic for daily use [08:41] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:41] zux (n=zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:41] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:41] zux (n=zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [08:42] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-026-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:42] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [08:42] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-027-187.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] yea so slackware didn't boot [08:43] what exactly do i add to my grub entry .. how do i know what (hd0,1) is .. i have windows installed also [08:43] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:44] (hd0,0) is the first partition on the first drive, (hd0,1) = the second partition on the first drive [08:44] c0s (n=sys@151.65.147.233) left ##slackware. [08:44] slackware is on /dev/sda4 [08:44] that would be (hd0,3) [08:44] hmm.. [08:45] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-252-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:45] ubuntu remember im trying slackware .. /dev/sda1 = windows 7 /dev/sda2 = ubuntu /dev/sda3 = extended /dev/sda5 = swap /dev/sda4 = slackware [08:47] when i tried to boot slackware grub said can't mount parition .. the other error was error 15 file not found [08:47] http://www.pastie.org/764902 [08:48] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-225-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. 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[08:51] See Pig_Pen's note above [08:52] so when i was at grub i can change the root (hd0,3) anything .. i still couldn't boot slackware [08:52] n/m - I don't use grub and I've not used extended partitions [08:52] well /dev/sda4 is primary parition [08:52] actually no its not [08:52] 0_o [08:53] if you have logical lartitions then sda4 is not right, maybe sda5 or higher [08:53] *partitions [08:54] cfdisk /dev/sda, look at the list. (don't change anything, though) [08:54] /dev/sda3 is an extended partition .. /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda4 are logical [08:55] brb let me try something [08:55] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:57] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.125.64) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:57] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.190) left irc: [08:57] i have a feeling macman's disk partitions are a screwed up mess [08:58] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.125.64) joined ##slackware. [09:01] sahilsk (n=ubuntu@120.56.150.158) joined ##slackware. [09:01] hey [09:01] i succeed to install slackware. atlast. [09:01] but i am having problem. [09:01] 1)net is not working [09:02] 2)when it load, it end in console. it doesn't show me graphical ineterface , untill i type "STARTX" to enter iin gui [09:02] 3)i am not able to change from xfce to kde [09:02] ...................?? [09:03] you need to read the slackbook [09:03] all that is explained in that book [09:03] 1) netconfig 2) edit inttab 3) xwmconfig [09:04] yes [09:04] give me a link to slackBOOK. [09:04] i am gonna spend a couple of second with her. [09:04] look in topic [09:04] oops. [09:05] /topic [09:05] all you have to do is type "/topic" here and it will show you [09:05] ooh [09:06] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:07] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-201-047.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] or even, /t [09:17] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [09:17] hey slackware is intimidating [09:17] 0_o [09:17] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:17] howso [09:17] why aren't all my commands accessible via just typing them [09:17] i typed ifconfig i couldn't find it .. i had to actaully tyupe /sbin/ifconfig [09:18] is that an enviornment issue [09:18] read about environment variables [09:18] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:18] mancha: because /sbin isnt in the path of non-root users by default [09:18] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [09:18] because ifconfig is in /sbin and you are not root [09:18] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-027-187.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:18] (at least we hope you're not running root as a default) [09:19] alisonken1home, unless using irc is an exception for him and createss a special user for it, this channel has a nice warning for that:P [09:20] spook: /nick fail :) [09:20] nachox: yep :) [09:20] alisonken1home: urk [09:20] nope .. i had to loging and i did a adduser macman_ [09:20] login* [09:21] so since i did a /sbin/dhcplicnet to get my dhcp .. do i always have to do it ? [09:21] that's a good think to do as one of the first things after installing slack [09:21] s/think/thing [09:21] macman_: read the slackbook.org [09:22] dhcpclient is far worse than dhcpcd btw. [09:22] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-000-142.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] mancha, when i was on readhat 6 .. i irced as root for the first time back in the day and got mass flameig [09:22] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] dhcplicnet? whats that? is it anything like dhclient? [09:22] you get kicked here, not flamed, we're much more civilized [09:23] flaming is so 2009 [09:23] dhcpcd [09:23] spook: I'll leave that alone since the wife is up and about [09:23] mancha: sooo last decade [09:23] alisonken1home: leave what alone? [09:23] dhcplicnet [09:23] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-225-251.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:24] spook: read carefully :) [09:24] alisonken1home: i did, did you? [09:26] spook: I was responding to the spelling [09:26] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:27] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [09:27] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [09:29] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:30] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:30] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-149-115-222.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:33] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:39] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:39] how to update program using Slackbuild ? [09:39] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-000-142.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:40] build a new package, use upgradepkg [09:43] jomo (n=mich@p3EE21D18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:44] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-205.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:44] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [09:45] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] ugh [09:46] so i can't boot with vga anymore [09:46] vga=791 .. its a black screen [09:46] if it take off vga=791 and do single i can get to the command prompt [09:46] any ideas on how to fix [09:47] Your kernel is lacking framebuffer support, I believe. [09:47] hmm [09:47] well im booting with /vmlinuz [09:48] i need to put the kernel in there correct ? [09:48] ie /vmlinuz/vmlinuz-2.6 etc .. [09:48] you compiled your own kernel? [09:48] No, it's a kernel option. Which kernel are you using? [09:48] dunno im still testing .. im just booting with /vmlinuz at the grub menu atm [09:50] jbitcm (n=jbitcm@190.149.63.76) joined ##slackware. [09:51] jbitcm (n=jbitcm@190.149.63.76) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:51] jbitcm (n=jbitcm@190.149.63.76) joined ##slackware. [09:52] jbitcm (n=jbitcm@190.149.63.76) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:54] jbitcm (n=jbitcm@190.149.63.76) joined ##slackware. [09:54] hola como estan [09:54] una pregunta como instalo qtcreator en slackware 13 [09:55] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:56] how to install qtcreator in slackware 13 [09:57] xverse (i=0@a85-138-121-98.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:57] adaptr_ (n=jgeilman@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:58] qt creator is not part of the qt4 package? [09:58] adaptr (n=jgeilman@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:58] well ...u can use the slackbuild script from slackbuilds.org [09:58] or if u are using sbopkg u can just try: sbopkg -i qt-creator [09:58] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [09:58] well ...theirs a slackbuild for it , so i guess not ... [09:58] ah ok [10:00] can you speak spanish [10:00] Razec (i=1000@187-27-242-11.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:00] ok what is sbopkg? [10:00] sorry i don't speak spanish :( [10:00] mmm .w8 a sek [10:01] http://www.sbopkg.org/ [10:01] xverse (i=0@a85-138-121-98.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:01] sbopkg is a tool with looks for buildscripts in the slackbuilds.org's repo. [10:02] btw u know what slackbuild script is ? [10:02] so anyway to fix my vga issue [10:03] tell me about your vga issue ? [10:04] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-205.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:04] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [10:04] like i said im testing slackware right now .. i went to grub and put in /kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda4 ro vga=791 .. when i boot it it goes to a black screen [10:04] when i take out vga=791 slackware boots fine [10:05] well i don't like the gfx but oh well [10:05] macman_: what is your screen resolution? [10:05] wow my trackpad isn't working also [10:06] vmlinuz is slack's default kernel, right ? [10:06] i think its 1920 [10:06] 1920x something [10:06] shadowx: that is link to huge kernel [10:07] 1920x1200 [10:07] how to install sbopkg [10:07] jbitcm get the package [.tgz or .txz file] and : installpkg package.t?z [10:07] as root [10:07] 1920x1200 in console ? :) [10:08] btw u did tell your grub 'bout the initrd ,right ? [10:08] it doesno [10:08] whit the source [10:08] err .. no shadowx all im doing is kernel /boot/vmlinuz [10:08] damn! i forgot to start screen first! [10:08] brb [10:08] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [10:09] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [10:09] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [10:09] jbitcm: download pre-build slackware package, and then installpkg ... [10:09] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:09] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-002-120.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] shadow i have the package an the source now [10:10] jbitcm take a look here: http://www.slackware.com/config/packages.php [10:10] to understand slackware's pkg system [10:11] the page needs update ..... the new packages are : tbz, txz, tlz , not tgz, but .... everything else is the same . [10:11] so u get the .t?z package /not the source/ from sbopkg`s site , they offer both [10:11] u download it [10:12] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [10:12] let's say the file is in /home/jbitcm/sbopkg-version-arch-blqblqblq.txz [10:12] Does anyone here have a (new) Radeon 5XXX card (the ones that support eye infinity) working under Linux with Xinerama? (until the driver supports Eye Infinity?) [10:12] ok i think i fixed it [10:12] u do : installpkg /home/jbitchm/sbopkg-version-arch-blqblq.txz [10:12] and that's it [10:12] then just start: sbopkg [10:12] actually i didn't i still have no trackpad [10:12] any ideas on the trackpad [10:13] btw installpkg/upgradepkg/removepkg/pkgtool can only be used as root ! [10:13] ok [10:13] wait a moment i want to tray [10:14] to fix my trackpad do i just run setup again ? [10:15] dear All, tell me please: i opening files in gvim so: "gvim --servername GVIM --remote-silent ", and I tired typing this. I think about white short bash script that will start gvim with following params. But maybe there's more correct solution? [10:17] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-002-120.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:17] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-086-096.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] mmm.... dfrank u want to make an alias to this command , right ? so u dont need to write it every time ... [10:20] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) joined ##slackware. [10:20] shadow ok now how i can start sbopkg [10:21] sahilsk (n=ubuntu@120.56.150.158) left ##slackware. [10:21] jbitcm so now just sync it and go and search for: qt-creator [10:22] ok [10:22] dfrank try : alias gvim="gvim --servername GVIM --remote-silent" [10:22] if i'm userstanding you right ... this will do the trick [10:24] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-246.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:32] okay, what dose it mean when you boot your system up, and eth1 . eth2 are not loaded automaticaly [10:32] take a look at http://www.kde-apps.org/ you might be able to dig something up you can use [10:32] i have to ifup eth1 / eth2 every time i start my machine [10:32] Pig_Pen: I've been using text files half a year and it always ended up that I was just writting something down but never read it again [10:33] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:33] macman_: maybe build an xog.conf run X -configure and look at /root/xorg.conf.new and if you like it move it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:34] will that fix my trackpad issue [10:35] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [10:35] lowkyalu2 (n=low@dslb-088-070-014-094.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-152-231-203.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:35] macman_: maybe, i dont use a trackpad so i dont know for sure, but it does sound like it just needs to be configured [10:36] my only laptop died so it put some bullet holes in it and tossed it in the trash [10:36] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [10:37] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [10:37] i think it was a harddrive failure, it was so old it was not worth investing in a new harddrive [10:37] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-086-096.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:39] should i do a root=/dev/sda4 ro or rw ? [10:40] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:40] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:41] look at the other stanzas for an example, grub's config file should have some examples in it [10:41] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Raa (n=oli@86.127.238.96) left irc: [10:42] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.39) joined ##slackware. [10:42] beatzz: Did you look at /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf:(specifically the eth1 and eth2 sections)? There are no entries by default. [10:42] Xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Connection reset by peer [10:42] Xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:46] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslb-088-070-000-200.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:46] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [10:47] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B4C33.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:48] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:49] I can't get BackTrack 4 prefinal to work in VirtualBox. I get only the loopback interface. Any idea why? [10:51] bt4 in virtualbox works fine for me... [10:51] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B4C33.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Azeotrope, are you running the live system or have you installed it? [10:52] Azeotrope: this is Slackware related how? [10:53] pprkut, He runs virtualbox on slackware? [10:53] Azeotrope: bt4 is ubuntu [10:53] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:53] pprkut: isn't BT built ontop of slackware? [10:54] Azeotrope: bt4 is ubuntu [10:54] ubuntu?? [10:54] dangerseeker: live [10:54] older bt are build on slax [10:54] Camarade_Tux: OK [10:54] Azeotrope: nope, and even if, this is ##slackware and not #backtrack [10:55] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-205-230.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [10:55] so is there a way to re-run the setup at the command line ? [10:55] Azeotrope, are you sure the network (inside vbox) is set up correctly? [10:55] macman_: pkgtool -> setup [10:55] Camarade_Tux: there I hoped that those bastards were gone... [10:56] |Slacker| (n=cris@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [10:56] dangerseeker: yes.. i tried different adapter, tried also in VMware. only loopback. [10:57] Camarade_Tux: im trying to get the mouse working [10:57] read your dmesg and run 'ifconfig -s' (or -a) [10:57] macman_: in console or X? slackware13? which kind of mouse? laptop? touchpad? [10:57] Azeotrope, sounds like the network of bt is not set up... have you tried to run "dhclient eth0" from the commandline? [10:58] hmm was working before [10:58] Camarade_Tux: in console or X i can't use my trackpad .. i think my touchpad is a synaptic [10:58] before what? [10:58] dangerseeker: no, i haven't tried that [10:59] macman_: for X, see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics [10:59] Azeotrope, well, then this would be a good time to try. ;-) [10:59] macman_: also, gpm is running? [11:00] im at teh console atm [11:01] shadowx: yeah, thank you! alias works fine [11:01] macman_: how have you been exiting X without mouse btw? [11:01] haven't [11:01] i have to power it off manually [11:02] Camarade_Tux: Zapping? [11:02] shadowx: should i put it into my ~/.profile ? [11:02] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:02] pprkut: wanted to check and seem I was right [11:03] also, I'm not sure zapping works right in 13 [11:03] AND NO! I'm not going to try ;p [11:03] wfm ;) [11:03] Speaking of gpm, do you find that when vim or links is launched, they hang immediately until gpm is stopped? [11:03] macman_: or I disabled it, I don't know [11:05] macman_: use Alt+SysRq+R, release keys and use Ctrl+Alt+F2 [11:05] will put in you tty2 [11:05] why would i be in X trackpad no workie [11:05] setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp [11:05] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:06] Agiofws (n=nnnAgiof@athedsl-430072.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:07] Agiofws (n=nnnnAgio@athedsl-427755.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-132-105.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [11:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Axius (n=ade@92.85.30.230) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] yea a ps2 moue works fine [11:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:12] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Has anyone experienced problems with openoffice (ie app not starting?) [11:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] wow no keyboard in x eaither Camarade_Tux [11:15] should i reinstall ? [11:15] you did the alt+Sysrq thing? [11:16] lmet me startx again [11:16] remmeber my keyboard dosen't work in x eaither [11:16] it's kernel-level [11:16] what is sysrq [11:16] print screen [11:17] nothing happend [11:17] pprkut: ah, yeah, the trouble with Zap is that it needs X to work [11:17] macman_: Alt+SysRq+R, release everything, Ctrl+Alt+F2, right? [11:17] ok ctrl+alt+f2 i got a tty [11:18] i see my ps2 mouse [11:18] now, you can kill X and try again, that'll avoid hard reboots [11:18] Camarade_Tux: hmm, might be, yeah [11:19] macman_: and what about the mouse? [11:19] how do i kill X [11:19] kill -9 [11:19] no need to -9 [11:20] killall X [11:20] it worked [11:20] do you want me to do a lspci ? [11:20] matsuura (n=fushyoun@unaffiliated/matsuura) joined ##slackware. [11:23] can i modprobe something [11:23] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-149-115-222.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:23] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:24] macman_: out of interest, what notebook are you using? [11:24] dell precision m90 [11:24] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B4C33.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:24] i havne't had a problem with any distro [11:25] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-205-230.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [11:25] macman_: does "dmesg | grep Syn" provide you any output? [11:26] no [11:26] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] dangerseeker_ (n=dangerse@p57A8B011.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [11:27] dangerseeker_ (n=dangerse@p57A8B011.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:27] macman_: and "lsmod | grep psmouse"? [11:27] dangerseeker_ (n=dangerse@p57A8B011.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.245) joined ##slackware. [11:28] sahilsk (n=sahilsk@120.56.150.158) joined ##slackware. [11:29] hi [11:29] nothing [11:29] i am not able to change my environment [11:29] but the root user can. [11:30] macman_: hmm, do "modprobe psmouse" and try again [11:30] when i choose the environment for the normal user, it blink and then log me out [11:30] the environemt i wanted for the normal user is kde. [11:31] TRUNASUCI (n=trunasuc@118.100.24.8) joined ##slackware. [11:31] i have commented all other environment in the "rc.4" file so that system uses kde as a default environment [11:31] keres_ (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] sahilsk: kdm != kde [11:32] echo startkde > ~/.xinitrc [11:32] session manager !=wm [11:32] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [11:32] no, display manager != community [11:33] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:33] nothing happened [11:33] and, there's one more problem. [11:34] hey, I keep getting http://pastebin.com/d5c65e3e1 whenever I try to compile anything.. what's up with that? [11:34] currently i am in a normal user session. [11:34] im going to reinstall [11:34] i can't run any application . [11:34] i click and nothing happen [11:34] kate,kuser, nothing seem to be working [11:34] matsuura: probably patches needed for newer gcc version [11:35] sahk0: hmm? [11:35] sahk0: right off of the slackware 13 build [11:35] what are you trying to build? [11:35] macman_: you'll learn more by not doing a reinstall [11:35] things from compiz, to jack, etc etc [11:35] same exact error [11:35] n 4 me [11:35] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-207-140.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:37] jomo (n=mich@p3EE21D18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [11:38] matsuura: you probably need to #include in tools/strutil.h [11:38] a clean install wont fix the problem, you will just have a clean install of the same os with the same problem because you have not learned to configure X to run your synaptics touchpad [11:38] ok [11:38] i will check out xorgconfig [11:38] does slack have xorgconfig ? [11:39] what is the command to see how mb is a directory ? [11:39] tsonev: du -h [11:39] udevd is giving me errors at boot [11:39] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:39] i guess it has xorgconfig, i always just X -configure and move /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:39] sahk0: 10x [11:39] ls [11:40] macman_: xorgconfig will not solve your problem either [11:40] you can not use a device unless it's kernel module is loaded. Nothing will change that fact [11:41] is that why udev is giving me errors [11:41] should i try another kernel ? [11:41] what errors? [11:41] im using 2.6.31.-16-generic [11:41] on slackware? [11:42] slackware 13 comes with 2.6.29 [11:42] yes [11:42] well it was in my /boot [11:42] Xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Connection reset by peer [11:42] macman_: your a mess [11:42] agreed [11:42] Xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:42] didn't kno what kernel to put .. never did it manally [11:43] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8E41F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:43] also im not using lilo .. i know it would have been easier [11:43] how your system booted up with some kernel from some other distro is a miracle, fix your grub to use slackware's kernel [11:44] hmm wtf [11:44] edit menu.1st to boot the slackware kernel [11:44] i just did a ls /boot [11:44] 0_o [11:44] out of various login shell, which one should i choose for a normal user? [11:44] Action: macman_ feels stupid [11:44] bash [11:44] yes [11:44] ? [11:44] omg i can't belive this [11:45] we neither [11:45] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:45] Pig_Pen.. why is it a miracle?! is a kernel not a kernel? [11:47] Hardly. [11:47] Most distributions (other than Slackware and Gentoo) massively patch the kernel. [11:47] ahem.. massively? :P [11:48] and how many of those patches "break things"? [11:48] all of them :P [11:48] ie patching in a device driver is hardly going to make a kernel not work with another distro :P [11:49] ok maybe you can show me some examples? [11:49] if he booted slackware with the kernel of a different distro then none of the modules will load (version mismatch) [11:49] it may boot, but it wont run anything, no wonder his touchpad is not working [11:50] yea .. my initrd was jacked up also [11:50] of course. but a) it could be a kernel that has a lot of stuff compiled in and b) does a touchpad even USE a kernel driver? [11:50] no modules are loaded, only the things compiled into the kernel image itself will work [11:50] fwc: psmouse, yes [11:50] macman_: what other distro are you running that uses the .31 kernel? just curious. [11:50] would guess ubuntu [11:50] ^mine too [11:50] .31.. sounds old [11:51] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:51] ubuntu upgraded to that kernel 2-3 weeks ago [11:52] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [11:53] i am not able to run any application . why? i am currently in xfce environment as normal user. [11:53] |Slacker| (n=cris@189.123.195.252) left irc: "leaving" [11:53] I-O (n=I-O@host17-120-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.32.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:53] macman_: macman_ are you still using Ubuntu? [11:53] hello [11:53] sahilsk: what application are you talking about ? [11:54] kate [11:54] kwrite [11:54] , and all [11:54] system monitor [11:54] and ALL? [11:54] yes [11:54] sah.. is there any error msg? [11:54] can you open up a terminal ? [11:54] have a problem,who help me? [11:54] ya [11:54] that could be useful [11:54] WELL THAT'S ONE THAT WORKS [11:54] hitest: im on slack atm .. im testing it remember .. im just trying to boot into it first [11:54] run kwrite from your terminal [11:54] thanks [11:54] k [11:55] can somone post there lilo ? does it have a initrid [11:55] where do you report slack bugs.. i never had to report a real issue with slack :P [11:55] macman_: thanks. I understand. [11:55] testing slack? i thought you were torturing us with it [11:55] No protocol specified [11:55] kwrite: cannot connect to X server :0.0 [11:55] fwc: mail to pat. [11:55] macman: why do you need an initrd? [11:55] Pig_Pen: ha-ha [11:55] init: ah, no mailing list/bug tracking site eh? [11:55] so? [11:55] ok [11:56] ok fwc i will commet it out [11:56] what should i do to get it working?? [11:56] fwc: afaik there is not such thing. may be try this http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/topics [11:56] macman: there are cases that you need it, but in the vast majority.. nope, no initrd [11:56] init: k works for me, thanks [11:56] should i delete the current user accound and create a new one? [11:57] *account [11:57] fwc: ftr pat doesnt monitor aols [11:57] so i have a root (hd0,1) kernel boot/vmlinuz-generic-2.6.29.6 root=/dev/sda4 ro vga=791 [11:58] :( [11:58] sahilsk: are you a root user or smthing ? with you tried the terminal ? [11:58] sahilsk: did you like start X as one user and maybe somehow the programs are trying to run as a different user? thatd stop you from connecting [11:58] when tar xvf linux-kernel-x.x.x I obtai the error No such file or dir when tar unpack fee archive ! Whi? [11:58] cant see how itd happen without you being ridiculous, but *shrug* it could happen :P [11:58] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:59] I-O: read the last line of /topic [11:59] i was root user when i try terminal [11:59] macman_: if you want to create an initrd: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/README.initrd. I run one and have modified my lilo.conf [11:59] $ sign was there. [11:59] macman_: you need an initrd with a generic kernel. use the huge kernel. [11:59] hitest: do i need one ? .. im just trying to get slack to boot [11:59] notreally [11:59] sorry, $ sign was n't there. :d [11:59] allend: so just /vmlinuz [12:00] macman_: -generic needs a initrd, -huge doesn't [12:00] sahilsk: on a new terminal just type whoami [12:00] QGtkStyle cannot be used together with the GTK_Qt engine. [12:00] Segmentation fault [12:00] ok [12:00] sahilsk [12:00] the normal user. [12:00] ok i scratched out generic .. im booting with just /vmlinuz [12:00] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.17.103) joined ##slackware. [12:01] sahilsk: that's five lines that could actually have been typed on one. [12:01] has anyone else had the problem with the stock slack kernel refusing to boot? it freezes after it detects my first CPU [12:01] macman_: you should have a vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 [12:02] BP{k}, then [12:02] i just made a bootable USB stick with another kenel to get around it, but wanted to know if maybe there was a superhandy kernel option i didnt know about [12:02] oh ok let me try that one [12:02] i think i am running gtk +kde simultaneously. [12:02] JJJunkk (n=JJJunkk@S010600c0f035de4d.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:03] sahilsk: it doesn't matter. [12:04] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-205-230.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [12:04] init[1], ok [12:04] so, how can i make my applications start running? [12:04] kate,kwite, and games all are quit [12:04] sahilsk: are you able to atleast run firefox ? [12:05] yeah [12:05] now what is your issue ? [12:05] i can't run , kuser, [12:05] sahilsk: and if you run said applications from konsole; can you pastebin what output you get? [12:05] i did [12:06] here what i get [12:06] QGtkStyle cannot be used together with the GTK_Qt engine. [12:06] Segmentation fault [12:06] who help me? [12:06] I-O, god [12:06] I-O: help yourself? [12:06] :D [12:06] Dekkard (n=user@99-161-186-163.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:06] thanks,bye [12:07] Agiofws (n=nnnnAgio@athedsl-427755.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [12:07] sahilsk: why xfce?:P [12:07] exactly [12:07] i want to change xfce to kde,for this user. but i can't [12:07] pprkut: when i boot with /boot/vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 it says no file found .. if i boot with /vmlinuz it boot but no display [12:08] when i choose the kde, it jsut blink for a moment and again broght me back to the login menu. [12:08] macman_: install the huge kernel then [12:08] hugesmp.s [12:08] pprkut: actually vmlinuz is a symlink to the huge kernel [12:08] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] actually ti goes to huge-smp [12:09] sahilsk: /usr/bin/xwmconfig [12:09] how do install that kernel pprkut [12:09] n3rd (n=whoami@122.167.88.176) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:09] init[1], i read the slackbook, and i did exactly what it said. [12:09] and you know it works too. But only for Root user. [12:10] macman_: maybe it's already installed. Can you pastebin the output of "ls /var/log/packages/kernel-*"? [12:10] for normal user it's seems to be not working [12:10] hmm does the slackbuild scipt can take additional options ? [12:10] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:10] pprkut: can't mouse or keypad don't work in x .. im trying diffrent kernels [12:11] paul424: read the script. if you meant configure flags. [12:11] macman_: and on console? [12:11] no mouse [12:11] i can only use ps2 mouse [12:11] you need no mouse to type that command [12:12] oh just type it my bad [12:12] ok onesec [12:12] paul424: whay SlackBuild script? [12:12] what [12:12] pprkut: a lot of kernels in there .. witch do you want [12:13] macman_: the whole output, ina pastebin please [12:13] Action: allend thinks that pprkut has all the kernels needed [12:13] pprkut: i can't get to pastebin i have no X 0_o [12:13] i can't get to gui to paste it to pastebin [12:13] no you can [12:13] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [12:13] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.227.70) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:13] hmm [12:14] there is gpm [12:14] there is links ctr-i x [12:14] allend: indeed I have. I even have some unneded ones :P [12:14] and there is tee [12:14] macman_: ok, see any huge or huge-smp kernel in the list? [12:14] example : startx 2>&1 | tee error.output [12:14] yes pprkut [12:14] if you have a network up there is access the machine remotely and and copy/paste that way..? :P [12:14] pprkut: :) [12:15] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:15] macman_: then you should have it installed [12:15] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [12:15] how dould i setup my grub then [12:16] deja-vu [12:16] remember if i boot with vga=197 it boots but to a black screen .. if i boot with no vga it boots to the command prompt .. i can startx but still no mouse [12:16] macman_: is there a /boot/vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 or /boot/vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.29.6-smp? [12:17] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.245) left irc: "Saindo" [12:17] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.227.70) joined ##slackware. [12:17] yes they are both there pprkut [12:17] if i do a ls -l on vmlinuz it shows a symlink to the huge kernel [12:17] then it's most likely your grub setup [12:17] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] lynx ctrl-x i* [12:17] hello friends! :-) [12:18] no idea about grub, never used it / got it to work [12:18] so i have a root (hd0,1) kernel boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda4 ro vga=791 [12:18] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:18] macman_: try vga=ask [12:18] I'm a friend of mernil, he is banned from here and dont feel so good about it. Is itt [12:18] possible to de-ban h [12:19] im [12:19] darth_mohl: btw are you mernil ? :P [12:19] init[1]: that's seccret -) [12:19] -_- [12:21] I-O (n=I-O@host17-120-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:21] no matter what vga=