[00:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:01] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:02] bogdan (~bogdan@74.198.12.3) joined ##slackware. [00:02] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:04] artmob (~arv6@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:04] bogdan: which aspire one do you have? [00:05] D150 agentc0re [00:05] i have that one too. [00:05] according to Xorg.0.log, the dri module is loaded but according to glxinfo it's disabled [00:06] bogdan: i haven't looked at the scroll back, what are you having issues with? [00:06] oh. [00:06] ang, you hold him down and i'll bring the cables and car battery...we'll get a confession outta him [00:06] I also can't run Xorg on the netbook's native resolution (1024x600) [00:07] JosephK (Light@77.sub-75-227-101.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:07] bogdan: weird. are you running 13.0 or current? [00:07] 13.0 [00:07] bogdan: fully updated? [00:07] no, this is a fresh install [00:07] bogdan: do you have an xorg.conf? [00:08] I did, made one with Xorg -configure and I added a Modes line to try 1024x600, but it didn't work so I got rid of it [00:09] is there a way I can tell that the intel driver is properly loaded and that dri works? [00:09] look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log [00:10] glxinfo | grep -i renderer should tell you if DRI is working [00:10] bogdan: k, one sec i'll post my xorg.conf. [00:11] bash-3.1$ glxinfo | grep -i renderer [00:11] GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GME GEM 20090712 2009Q2 RC3 x86/MMX/SSE2 [00:11] looks good [00:11] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.77.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:11] you don't have DRI2 though [00:11] JosephK (Light@218.sub-75-196-38.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [00:11] glxgears is slow [00:11] glxgears is not a proper benchmark of anything [00:12] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [00:13] besides intel chips aren't meant for omg fps [00:14] bogdan: http://sprunge.us/LaVC [00:14] brb, going to try your config :) [00:15] bogdan (~bogdan@74.198.12.3) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:16] bogdan (~bogdan@74.198.12.3) joined ##slackware. [00:18] it worked agentc0re, thank you :) [00:20] bogdan: you're welcome. [00:20] mancha++ i just told him the same thing. [00:21] JosephK (Light@218.sub-75-196-38.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:22] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:22] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:23] sorry, what window manager do you recommend for the 10.1" screen? [00:24] bogdan: XFCE. [00:24] bogdan: to go even more lightweight use fluxbox. but i find that XFCE fits in very nicely. [00:24] using fvwm here on a 10.1" screen [00:25] no task bar [00:25] bogdan: really, in the end, it's all personal preference. [00:26] i use enlightenment on my netbook. [00:26] wouldn't trade it for anything [00:26] e16 0r 17? [00:26] JosephK (Light@215.sub-75-196-159.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Nick change: pirate|wookie -> jewbacca [00:26] 17 [00:26] cool [00:27] I'm not used to such a small screen, that's the reason I was asking [00:27] I thought that there would be something that goes well with small screens (no bars, decorations, etc.) [00:27] to save space :) [00:28] try icewm,you can turn off the panel or try a tiling wm [00:28] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.77.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:29] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] bogdan: fluxbox. that's with no bars/decorations. [00:29] heya Rat409 [00:30] heyya fire|bird how you doing? [00:30] thank you [00:30] Rat409, doing great, thanks. How are you? [00:30] I'll go with fluxbox because it already comes with the dvd :) [00:30] great thanks :) [00:30] tiling wm's are evil [00:31] bogdan: but, if you've never touched fluxbox before, i would suspect it would be aggravating to learn on a small screen. XFCE would give you everything you probably are use to but in a more lightweight version compared to KDE. Again though, this [00:31] is all personal preference and YYMV. So the best thing to do is to just try them all out and see what fits you best. What I like isn't necessarily what you like. [00:31] indeed [00:31] i tried ratpoison and wmi [00:31] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:36] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:37] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet? 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[01:11] alreadygone (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("We were always meant to say goodbye..."). [01:13] guys [01:13] it's taking me lot of tike to start kde [01:14] line 20 seconds, its a lot i have a c2d with 3gb of ram [01:14] and i wanna disable gtk.immodules load at startup [01:14] peregrine|falcon (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:15] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [01:15] gospch (~gospch@p5088B60D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. [01:16] i found these http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/boot-time-slackware-and-debian-644762/ [01:16] maybe useful [01:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:17] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:17] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. 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[01:54] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:55] hmm in screen if a window issues a beep...how do i get that to be shown if i'm in another window [01:55] that must be the hard status thing..huh ? [01:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:00] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:01] reti (~44beb77d@gateway/web/freenode/x-rlnxvfcmtmgygdlh) joined ##slackware. [02:02] Alright, so, fdisk -l shows /dev/hdb as an ntfs partition table, but mount shows it mounted as ext4. I have full rw access to the drive [02:03] which one is wrong? [02:05] ntfs partition _table_ ? [02:06] /dev/hdb1 * 1 24791 199133676 7 HPFS/NTFS [02:06] that's what fdisk -l shows [02:06] ah ok [02:06] whats the corresponding mount line ? [02:07] /dev/hdb1 on /home type ext4 (rw) [02:07] maybe you selected the wrong fs type (ntfs) when you were doing fdisk [02:07] ? [02:08] and then managed to somehow put ext4 on it? [02:08] maybe they are both right is what i'm saying...not sure though... [02:08] lol [02:08] maybe [02:08] :psyduck: [02:09] yeah, i mean, you don't remember what /home is when you went through the setup ? [02:09] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:09] nope :\ [02:09] well, its probably ext4 if its /home and there isn't "Program Files" in it :-) [02:09] ha [02:10] also, does someone now of a guide on how to load XP with lilo? [02:10] I installed slack on hda1 and xp on hda2 [02:10] the liloconfig utility didn't work ? [02:11] oh, i'll try that, thanks [02:12] totally forgot about that [02:13] i think there is a Windows option in the menu [02:13] yeah [02:13] in expert there is [02:15] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:24] reti (~44beb77d@gateway/web/freenode/x-rlnxvfcmtmgygdlh) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:28] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:28] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:31] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [02:33] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-231.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[02:48] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:50] hey The-Croupier, what's up ? [02:51] adrien (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] adrien (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:51] adrien (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:52] not bad not bad... [02:52] yourself [02:52] Perl (LAMP)... just checking what this is in wikipedia... and maybe start learning it ;) [02:53] looks like lots of people are requesting it ;) [02:53] :) not bad [02:53] gah [02:54] finished up setting slackware on a laptop...everything pretty much works :) [02:54] even the suspend and hibernation so i'm in high spirits [02:54] peregrine|falcon (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: "I guess i had to go to that place to get to this one...." [02:54] a computer of mine is having stability issues: unfortunately I can't get any output because I use it as a server and it doesn't always have a screen attached and I'm not always there [02:55] and the problem usually takes days to appear [02:55] :| [02:55] any advice on how I could get *anything* [02:55] not a loggable thing ? [02:55] I'm running current and, well, an rc kernel but it should be fairly stable by now [02:56] fhobia: no, nothing, I guess it panics but... [02:56] how come it panics...it has been a long time it has when i install it ;) [02:57] i guess its either im that good, [02:57] or [02:57] graffz (~graffz@unaffiliated/graffz) joined ##slackware. [02:58] im just lucky on the computers ive installed it so far ;) [02:58] no problems here either so far [02:59] well, this one took about 3 days to crash and before it took it more than two weeks [03:00] hyke (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:13] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [03:15] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:16] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:16] adrien: maybe you could try something like lkcd or even kgdb [03:16] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:17] kgdb is cool. [03:17] trhodes: lkcd looks good [03:17] qemu + kgdb kernel + gdb = awesome [03:17] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:17] kgdb probably not so much as I'd need to be in front of the computer I guess [03:20] hahaha [03:20] mldonkey is recovering files and since it has to unvalidate portions of downloads, it's giving me a negative speed/ETA ;p [03:20] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:23] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:26] found the solution to my microphone woes.. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Asoundrc_for_stereo-mics [03:26] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:26] \o? [03:26] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:27] btw, looking for anyone using the r8169 kernel module (my card is a realtek 8111/8169) [03:27] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:28] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:28] alphageek: I think I have the same card [03:28] what about r8169 ? [03:29] trhodes: you have one? [03:29] yes [03:30] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:30] (it's in a machine running a pretty old kernel) [03:30] slightly different card in the 1001p vs 1005 [03:30] what do you use the computer for? lots of traffic through the if? lots of possibly weird packets? which uptime? [03:30] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [03:30] hmmm [03:30] ^ mine [03:30] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [03:30] My mobo has one of those onboard I think [03:30] it's a desktop machine [03:30] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.203) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:30] I *think* it's the module that makes me crash but I'm not sure and very recent kernels but afaict, I'd have the same problem with a 2.6.33 [03:31] haven't seen weird packets and the uptime is fine [03:31] LSD`: most likely [03:31] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.203) joined ##slackware. [03:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.21.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:33] but won't have time to spend on that before this afternoon, have to leave =/ [03:33] have you tried loading r8169 with any debug parameters ? (not sure how you'd get at them) [03:33] what led you to suspect r8169 ? [03:33] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.113.249) joined ##slackware. [03:34] will do but no time right now =/ [03:34] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:34] trhodes: well, sometimes network would stop for a minute, I would plug a keyboard in the computer and 500ms after (as said in dmesg, exactly), network would come back [03:35] plus I saw one or two non-fatal traces involving this one [03:35] ah ok [03:35] plus [03:35] X not running, screen off, not many things left that could die [03:36] Thales (~ttsailas@hq.enforcingit.com) joined ##slackware. [03:36] and I think it happens when I use the network a bit heavily [03:38] Anyone know how I can STOP USB storage devices from mounting on their own?? [03:38] kde? xfce? [03:38] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:39] I mean in COMMAND line.. I don't X [03:40] and they do mount on their own? 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[04:15] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:15] hmm.. man page says this is correct syntax: ./configure --with-PACKAGE=package_name. but i get an error saying --with-PACKAGE is an unrecofnized option. [04:16] manpage? ug, that is dependent on each configure script [04:16] No available "shockwave flash player" in adobe.com or x-director? [04:16] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:17] mancha: thanks [04:18] anybody run lighttpd in slack by any chance? [04:19] or nginx [04:24] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-234-169.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:26] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. 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[04:47] graffz (~graffz@unaffiliated/graffz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:49] alienBOB: thanks i'll look there. anyone know what tool to use to update my system time? [04:51] ntpdate will do a one-off [04:51] if you mean sync to a very precise clock... [04:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-125-18.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:52] date -s "3 MAY 2010 10:51:00" ? [04:53] latemus: look at your /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd - and set the config to a good timeserver. Initial timing takes about 15 minutes to ensure proper drift, but it works pretty good [04:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:56] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.50.230) joined ##slackware. [04:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:59] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.13.105) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:59] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [04:59] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. 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[09:08] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Ephedrax (zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:10] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:11] Action: LinuxExpert had been finishing writing the freenode DDoS tool with "C" and Boost. :P [09:13] great, nice job LinuxExpert [09:13] *yawn* him again [09:13] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:13] You want to DDoS freenode LinuxExpert? [09:13] LinuxExpert: I wish I was as awqesome as you are! [09:13] *awesome [09:14] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:14] LinuxExpert: oh, I recognise you. [09:15] bah a real geek would have made a bashscript for that [09:15] Not much DDoS speed to be found in a bash script [09:16] psssh I made a DDoS tool with a toaster [09:16] just need a big cpu then in true x86 style [09:16] throw more cycle at it [09:16] Yes but raela's tool always burns the toast! You forgot the control settings!! [09:16] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [09:16] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:16] bash is more suited for benchmarking, to be honest. [09:17] latemus_ (~m@c-67-161-249-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:17] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:17] rob0: naaah I'm careful. I'm -very- specific with my toast making, even with DDoSing [09:18] I want cream cheese on my toast, please. [09:18] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:19] No distributed denial of spread! [09:19] rob0: well you can do it yourself! I am not your mother :P [09:19] rob0: No schmear for you! [09:20] what kind od spread ? marmite ? [09:21] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:23] wertik_rus1 (~wertik@95-27-224-124.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:25] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:25] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-84-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:26] Nick change: wertik_rus1 -> wertik_rus [09:26] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:34] Fatalnix (~fatalnix@208.233.36.250) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:34] you try keep up with current in alpha? [09:36] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:36] Fatalnix (~fatalnix@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [09:37] sahk0: listen to what? Stop updating Slackware? [09:37] bash_little (~dbyte@190.42.40.23) left irc: Client Quit [09:37] its spring and slackware is molting [09:37] sahk0: trying to keep up with current as best i can. better than waitnig for 13.1/14.0 and starting then [09:38] it was a joke. people can never be satisfied. no updates, too many updates :p [09:39] I hope 13.1 is not too far down the road [09:39] it seems it isnt [09:39] I noticed the installer was changed to 13.1 :> [09:39] soon the air will fill with the sound of slackers hatching left and right [09:39] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-241.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] yeah what thrice` said plus elflibs is 13.013. next is 13.1 [09:40] national geographic should really do a special on the life cycle of slackware [09:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:40] thrice`: well-spotted ;-) [09:41] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [09:41] just KDE remains *cough* [09:41] yeah, i noticed that as well, i think it shows in X somewhere as 13.1 as well [09:41] That was hoping there will not be too many more kernel updates [09:41] Yes, X shows that foe some time now [09:41] s/foe/for/ [09:41] hmm pat forgot to update the tagfile for n/ [09:42] it doesnt contain the newly added ucodes [09:42] sahk0: this morning i was actually playing with getting my stuff to work with slackpkg, then i need to make an installer [09:42] It was nearing daylight when he submitted the latest batch :-) [09:43] if someone can tell me pat's trick for emulating gzip -l with xz that would be appreciated :) i[m guessing something like xv -t --verbose then some parsing [09:43] see, can you imagine that scene with david attenbourough narrating from the bushes [09:43] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [09:43] sahk0: I have an uptodate tagfile here [09:44] weird. let me see [09:44] ang: look inside the tools [09:46] alienBOB: the tagfile is incomplete only on 32bit [09:46] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [09:46] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/slackware/n/tagfile [09:46] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [09:46] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:46] sahk0: ah [09:46] hi everyone , who is here use slackware-current ? [09:46] alienBOB: i don't have his updated tools, i have older scripts that only supported tgz, so i hack them up [09:46] with kernel 2.6.33.2 ? [09:47] current has 2.6.33.3 now [09:47] ang: look at http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/gen_repos_files.sh for an alternative to "xz -l" [09:47] oh so fast [09:47] thx [09:47] I have .2, is there some bug or some reason to upgrade it? [09:48] I don't but I have kernel panic with this kernel version [09:48] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:48] rob0, because Pat told you to, of course [09:48] I'll try install new [09:48] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:48] theres definitely some fixed bugs. the question is whether they affect you [09:49] right, mine seems fine, so I'll wait for the final 13.1 kernel. [09:50] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] I had meant to stay with .1, but I did an "accidental" upgradepkg and lost the kernel and modules. Oops. [09:51] thx [09:51] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [09:54] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:54] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.42.81) joined ##slackware. [09:55] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:56] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:58] alienBOB: very nice trick. thanks! [09:58] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:58] ang: ;-) [09:59] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:59] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [09:59] sirslacker (1000@130.83.108.125) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:00] alienBOB: i was wondering, after the latest shared-mime-info update, is the nasty stuff in doinst.sh still needed? [10:00] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:00] deus|-| (deus@simula.gunkies.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:01] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:01] deus|-| (deus@simula.gunkies.org) joined ##slackware. [10:01] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:03] sahk0: probably not [10:04] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod [10:05] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:06] erk_ (~MrEd@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:06] |Emeau| (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-74-249.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:07] alienBOB, do you know why the berkdb package(s) don't get updated? I think Pat has left 4.2 and 4.4 since 11.0, and most other distros seem to be fine with the update, without much patching or so [10:07] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [10:07] erk_ (~MrEd@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-81-91.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:08] Thales (~ttsailas@hq.enforcingit.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:08] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:11] probably too late to update such an important package now, but was mostly curious :> [10:12] thrice`: Pat detests BerkeleyDB because of theincompatibilities per new release [10:13] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:13] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [10:13] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:13] I see the detest and raise a stink. [10:13] mm, interesting. [10:15] rob0: Take a shower or something, you're clogging my NIC with all that raised stink. [10:15] alienBOB, you mean all the weirdness to compile it? [10:15] cypherpunko (~root@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] Delahunt, no, it's that each release is unable to work with the DB files made by another release. I see that in #Postfix a lot. [10:18] cypherpunko (root@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware. [10:18] so, the solution is just never upgrade? :) [10:19] Nick change: cteg_ -> cteg [10:19] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:24] or remove [10:24] alienBOB: ok , thanks [10:27] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:27] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [10:30] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-241.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [10:43] Fatalnix (~fatalnix@208.233.36.250) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:43] Sushiyant (~soqrat@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [10:44] caixabox_ (~c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-iaoelzwguosqjsit) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:44] Fatalnix (~fatalnix@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. 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[11:17] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:21] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [11:21] if anyone's interested in kexec/kdump, 17:15 rovar : a few of the modern compilers (haskell, D, scala) let you define a function or module called "test" and the compiler will execute it, in the same way a process would execute "main" when run [11:22] bah [11:22] this: http://en.opensuse.org/Kdump#Manual_Usage [11:23] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [11:25] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-32.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:27] sirslacker (1000@s1149.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:29] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [11:31] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. 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[11:47] I go the weird route... daemontools and ucspi-tcp [11:47] :-) [11:47] inetd.conf order is important, because anything following that line would be also bound to localhost only. [11:47] it works [11:47] rob0, =*** [11:49] bah, I can't get kexec to work =/ [11:50] guax: inetd also uses TCP wrappers, so you can use host.allow and host.deny to give more fine-grained allowances. [11:51] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:55] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:55] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:56] Esquire (~Zod@vc-41-8-192-162.umts.vodacom.co.za) joined ##slackware. [11:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:58] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:59] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:00] macman_ (~macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Thales (~ttsailas@hq.enforcingit.com) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Alan_Hicks, i installed bitlebee, so just the localhost limit is good here. but is great to know =P [12:01] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:02] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [12:02] was wondering if there is a way i can listen to a port and see when it is connected to in realtime ? [12:03] \o [12:03] im sshed to the machine i want to listen to [12:04] I want to ask if you have headphones, but I'm not. It's not that funny I think. [12:04] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] caixabox_ (~c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-iexpfadtlekafeot) joined ##slackware. [12:07] adrien (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:08] mac, some combination of watch(1) and netstat(8) or lsof(8) or similar. [12:09] adrien (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] yup, didn't manage to properly setup kexec/kdump it seems [12:10] will see that later on =/ [12:11] rob0: you don't know the combination ? [12:11] macman_: i'm sure he does [12:11] but you should figure it out ;) [12:11] caixabox_ (~c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-iexpfadtlekafeot) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:12] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:12] opposite (~user@174-143-170-200.static.cloud-ips.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:12] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [12:19] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:20] wrodrigues (~wrodrigue@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [12:23] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Kaapa (~Something@bl11-2-211.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:24] did some googeling [12:24] $ watch -n 1 'netstat -na | grep [12:25] wow, my new laptop has independent speaker vs headphone ...wtf [12:25] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-105-116.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:25] sirslacker (1000@s1149.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:25] what do yo uhave fhobia ? [12:25] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:26] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:26] asus ul30a [12:26] intel g45 sound [12:27] <_RadioHead> can i reduce fs blocks on ext4 from 200mb to lower space (my partition is 1TB on EXT4) [12:27] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [12:27] block of 200MB ? Oo [12:28] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Client Quit [12:30] <_RadioHead> Tusk: [12:30] <_RadioHead> /dev/sdb1 917G 200M 871G 1% /mnt/disk1part1 [12:30] that's nothing -_- [12:30] what are you trying to do. the question isn't clear? [12:31] 200MB out of 1TB [12:31] <_RadioHead> Tusk: :) [12:32] <_RadioHead> yes , i tried with tune2fs to change it but i think that`s a limit , with reiser it goes to 33mb and with xfs is 4.6mb [12:32] it's tune2fs [12:33] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:35] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [12:35] the -m command [12:35] 3% is okay to use in my experience [12:35] I think that is what you are asking. [12:36] i guess it's at 1% now [12:36] <_RadioHead> wario: yes 1% that is a limit? lower* [12:36] it shouldn't appear in df [12:36] ah [12:36] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:36] you can put at 0 [12:37] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-064.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:37] still shouldn't make any difference [12:37] <_RadioHead> Tusk: true [12:37] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:37] that's what ext4 needs to have a 1TB partition [12:38] bear with it [12:38] <_RadioHead> Tusk: seems to be like that. :) and thank you [12:38] or use to another fs if you really want to put 4more RAW photos on your part :D [12:39] <_RadioHead> Tusk: ill stick with ext4 :) since on slackware installer is defaults fs [12:40] i definitely wouldn't put 1TB on reiser :) [12:40] <_RadioHead> Tusk: i had xfs :) but i`ll put ext4 deinitely [12:41] i lost some xfs parts either :) [12:42] wrodrigues (~wrodrigue@124.124.229.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:42] i like xfs [12:42] oh don't get me wrong i like it [12:42] k [12:43] i just don't trust it enough [12:43] ;) [12:43] k [12:46] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:46] hmmmmm, has anyone ever made a bootable disc from a vm? 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[13:03] anyone could help me? [13:03] don't ask to ask, just ask [13:04] dont even ask, just write. [13:04] lol [13:05] xsamurai (~jamonyou@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [13:05] >.> [13:05] i was just checking if anybody's awake :D [13:05] why would you do that ? [13:05] i've installed slack 13.0 with a cd iso version [13:06] ok good boy [13:06] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:06] but i can't use xorgconfig or xorgsetup command and i can't start a Desktop Environment [13:06] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:06] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Xorg -configure [13:06] have you tried kdm ? to start kde ? [13:07] it does not seem to work [13:07] R0d how? [13:07] just type kdm [13:07] nor [13:07] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Grifulkin (~ryan@wasp-75-248.potsdam.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:07] it doesn't work [13:07] did you install the xorg pack ? [13:08] or kde pack ? [13:08] or any thing besides the kernel ? [13:08] I installed the x-window pack [13:08] all the packages listed in setup installing list [13:08] full install? [13:08] well look for xorg .... if cant find it... it aint installed [13:09] there's no xorg.conf in /etc/X11 [13:09] so i need to install it from the cd? [13:09] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [13:09] right?= [13:09] no [13:09] well ... put the CD in and installpkg [13:10] or if you've got time do a fresh install ... its recommended in your case [13:10] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:10] there are example xorg.conf's under /etc/X11, you can rename/copy the vesa one to xorg.conf but most cases you might not need an xorg.conf because it can all be found automatically now. [13:11] unless you want to mess around w/ the packs [13:11] iirc it's hal that does this. [13:11] Sync__: did you do a full install? [13:12] yes but not with the dvd just the cd iso version [13:12] he only installed the CD1 [13:12] that is what looks like [13:13] Sync__, if im not mistaking there are 4 cds 1 is just source the rest you need to install the full version [13:13] i see [13:14] there are 6 cds [13:14] get the others cds or download the dvd [13:14] Nick change: nix_chix0r -> agent|nix_chix0r [13:14] 3 for installtion, 3 for source [13:14] see thanks Necos [13:14] you need to get the rest of them [13:14] disk 2 has the X stuff, i think [13:14] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [13:15] yeah, it's disc 2 [13:15] Sync__, what do you have over there ? a modem 28k ? [13:15] a 2Mbps dsl will do the trick in 60min [13:16] don't tease the less fortunate [13:16] it's not a problem i'll do it ;) [13:16] i've 7Mb/s [13:16] heheh im the less fortunate here hahaha [13:16] :D [13:16] see look at that [13:16] Action: alienBOB has 60 [13:17] i have a 768k here [13:17] welcome to brazil [13:17] huahuahua [13:17] Action: r0d accepts donations [13:17] at least you guys don't have to import fuel anymore [13:17] lol [13:17] :D [13:18] doent matter [13:18] we don't use it correctlly [13:18] it matters, you guys have the will to go clean, but theres too much corruption [13:18] goodness, qemu takes a while to compile >.> [13:18] qemu is a beatchizzzzzzz [13:18] in america, if it was up to the people, we'd be running coal fired cars [13:19] Skywise, heheh i know i used to live up there [13:19] lol [13:19] i love he us style [13:19] Action: Necos blinks [13:19] i gotta admit we do have style, its wacky as hell, but you can't miss us [13:19] fuck them up we run V8s lol screw the trees [13:20] lol [13:20] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:20] i aint a tree huger i tell you that [13:20] lol [13:20] me neither, but i know i can't breate methane [13:20] breathe [13:20] the part that sucks about being a tree-hugger is the trees don't hug back :( [13:21] whiskas (~mc@87.72.242.147) joined ##slackware. [13:21] you just have to wait long enough [13:21] Eat more mushrooms and they will [13:21] Hi [13:21] its true Necos [13:21] leave it to straterra to come up with a solution >.> [13:21] yeah, but that one don't work out so good all the time [13:21] And a very good one, at that! [13:21] Eminem had a song about doing mushrooms >.> [13:22] Skywise, you guys could burn ethanol [13:22] its cheap as hell [13:22] but it needs to be from cane or sawgrass [13:22] you probably could get mexico to produce [13:22] but they wanna use corn thats already subsidized for food [13:22] er switch grass [13:22] use cane in mexico [13:23] they will do anything that pays [13:23] they will probably stop eating corn to sell to you guys [13:23] lol [13:23] the only problem is you don't wanna ship ethanol far from where its produced because it absorbs water and junk readily [13:23] fuck the tortillas [13:23] thats just what happens [13:23] the price of corn goes up and now food isn't affordable [13:23] only flour tacos now [13:23] Grifulkin (~ryan@wasp-75-248.potsdam.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:24] but the corn is all genetically modified now anyway [13:24] its all star link now, so its round-up ready, which is a plant modified to withstand plant killer [13:25] and then we eat it [13:25] well im just saying you can get ethanol from anyone and anywhere [13:25] and you can't store it for long [13:25] but yeah we could do it [13:25] down here our cars run both w/o the need to change the fuel [13:26] we in the morning fuel w/ gas and at noon w/ ethanol [13:26] yeah, you only need to change the fittings [13:26] nope [13:26] nothing [13:26] in here we do [13:26] our gaskets will dissolve in alcohol [13:26] just put the liquid in the tank [13:26] yeah you can get orings that won't [13:26] no need to be separated [13:26] and you need bigger injectors too [13:27] you burn about 1/3 more ethanol then gas [13:27] the cars here run what the industries call "flex" [13:27] but your cars are built to do it [13:27] it would be easy to make that change [13:27] Sync__ (~alessio@host230-216-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [13:27] the engine is flex [13:27] its like a bi-sexual uahuhuahua [13:27] lol [13:27] but around here, you need to buy a new fuel computer and do a lot of work to run E85 [13:27] can take whatever is available [13:28] I thought they sold kits to convert or modify a car to run both [13:28] actualmind (~bd5aa03c@gateway/web/freenode/x-bbcynlhiktrngmtc) joined ##slackware. [13:28] you can change over [13:28] i know but what i mean is that the technology is ready [13:28] just use [13:28] but even still, its not that easy [13:29] GM, ford, FIAT, Honda, NISSAN, Renoult, etc [13:29] you need an ecu with fuel maps for ethanol and gas and sensors to know what it has in the tank [13:29] they all make cars here that way [13:29] you can easily run lean with e85 [13:29] im say change all the cars ... just make the new ones that can take both fuels [13:29] that would be a good first step [13:29] had a buddy do it awhile back (3 years) ago for 1200 [13:30] yeah that sounds about right [13:30] but e85 isn't even around here yet [13:30] does anybody know why the ekiga 3.2.6 package, found on slackbuilds.org, won't build? [13:30] i worry about using it tho, cause my car can sit for weeks at a time [13:30] whiskas: do you have all the deps? [13:31] whiskas: maybe if you posted some logs [13:31] let me tell you you can get fucking china to produce that crap ... you guys dont even need to get involved on making that ... [13:31] hehe [13:31] just need to make a decision [13:31] its worse then that [13:31] everyone will follow [13:31] need to top being selfish first [13:31] because you guys will be the biggest buyer [13:31] er stop being selfish [13:31] but most americans are, i got mine, too bad for the rest of you guys [13:32] lol [13:32] eviljames, yes [13:32] eviljames, it stops mid-make [13:32] if ethanol cars were faster and stronger, then thats all we'd buy [13:32] nvision (~nvision@g224250183.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:32] hehe you will buy what they want to sell you [13:33] that is the fuck up deal [13:33] lol [13:33] if there was a 10 person suv that ran on baby squeezins, it would be a top seller [13:33] lol [13:33] straterra, http://pastebin.org/199644 [13:34] if you government decide that you guys are ethanol now it would fuck up a shit load of other things [13:34] america is so big and spread out, you need a car to do anything [13:34] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [13:34] alienBOB, have you ever used qemu to make a windows vm? [13:34] we wouldn't have enough places to sell ethanol [13:34] and people might try to drink it >.> [13:35] or run their cars on beer [13:35] dude ... trust me if they decide on running ethanol it would be done by now [13:35] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:35] its just a lot people dont what that to happen [13:35] once upon a time it would of, but california couldn't even get electric cars going [13:35] they will get poor in less than 24hs if that happen [13:36] yeah, it would change things, but for the better [13:36] electric cars are fucked up also ... do you know how much costs a new set of batteries ? [13:36] thats the major expense of a car [13:36] i mean its good while its new [13:36] motors are cheap [13:37] but its like 7k to change all the system in a gay ass prius [13:37] i think i'd like a gas turbine or something like that turning a generator [13:37] we have lots of natural gas and it burns clean [13:37] i'd like to drink what my car is drinking [13:37] lol [13:37] Necos: i've made vms for windows , bsd , solaris etc etc with kvm/qemu [13:37] ethanol [13:37] pull up to the pump and take a sip before you give some to the car [13:37] Necos: yes I used to run Windows in QEMU (win98, win2000, winxp) for my job [13:38] make sure is decent [13:38] hehe [13:38] hehe [13:38] i was just curious if you've ever been able to convert a qemu vm to a bootable disc [13:38] Never had the need [13:38] get me the jack Daniels grade [13:38] But it should be possible [13:38] flavored ethanol [13:39] the roads would smell like a cocktail party [13:39] well im rolling out lunch time is over here in brazil lol [13:39] cool [13:39] i'm converting a vmware image to qemu to make a bootable disc so i can run some software w/o having to install windows on another hd [13:39] they would smell great [13:39] lol [13:40] the city would smell like cachaca [13:40] basically, i'm trying to create a knoppix-like disc using windows [13:41] from an existing installation that i already have in a vm [13:41] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:41] That would not be possible [13:42] Necos: search google for 'windows live cd' [13:42] Widows is not able to boot off a CDROM - you'd need Windows PE for that [13:42] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-80-253.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [13:43] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:43] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:45] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:45] i havent' figured out how to install the software i'm trying to run using bartpe >.<; [13:46] Necos: look for the ultimate boot cd (UBCD4win) - that is an easier way to use BartPE to create a bootable Windows ISO [13:46] Thee will be no other way [13:46] What software is that, which you need to run from a Windows Live? [13:46] what about booting it from a ram or virtual disk [13:46] estranho (~diogo@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [13:47] huh, Skywise? [13:47] alienBOB, reading up on that right now [13:48] i believe the boot issue isn't from the media but rather the volume being writeable or not [13:49] yeah, as long as the bootloader knows where to find the install, it shouldn't be a problem... i'm stuck with a promise sx6000 that i need to run the array management utilty on, but the utility is only installable in windows [13:49] wertik_rus|wrk (~wertik@95-27-224-124.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:50] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-224-124.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:51] is there any reason you can't do it from a usb drive? [13:52] run the utility? or boot windows? [13:52] boot windows [13:52] nick4 (~fffeop@77.49.2.221.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:52] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:52] i don't have a flash drive big enough to hold a windows install... [13:53] lol [13:53] i remember when windows took 250mb and i thought that was alot too [13:54] well, a regular winxp install is ~4gigs [13:54] 8gb drives are cheap, but you might find it useful to have [13:55] except, it doesn't help my present situation ;) [13:55] well if thats all that matters... [13:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:55] why not make a temp partition and blow it away after you're done [13:56] won't you need to use this utility every now and then? [13:58] i'm going to swap the card once i get the data off, for exactly the reason that i'm doing this crazyness [13:58] replacing it with an escalade 7508 [13:59] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:59] my slack boot disk is completely used [14:00] newegg has an 8gb flash drive for 22, but when i think about it, it would prolly be painfully slow to run from [14:00] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:00] err, i don't have space for an extra partition [14:01] can you add another drive? [14:03] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:06] anyone using vmware? is it possible to extract the windows version of "vmware tools"? (need a driver I guess) [14:06] yo [14:06] can i use tail and lsof in the same syntax [14:06] i want to do a lsof -nP TCP and have tail watch it in realtime ? [14:07] try it? [14:07] macman_: man watch [14:07] adrien, it's one of the tarballs i think [14:07] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:07] Skywise, yeah, but it's kind of cramped for space at the moment [14:08] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Necos: you have it? can upload it? [14:10] do you have vmware installed? [14:11] no [14:11] it's for qemu with the -vga vmware driver [14:12] i thought that's an X driver [14:12] well, I _guess_ it's this driver ( -vga [std|cirrus|vmware|xenfb|none] ) [14:12] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [14:13] but that's for a windows guest (yeah, I know, offtopic but if this avoids me the vmware registration crap/spam...) [14:13] man oh man, dolphin made my day today. Can anyone tell me how long pressing F4 in dolphin has popped a terminal panel at the bottom of the win? [14:13] like, when did that feature get integrated? [14:13] eviljames: it's ok, it took you a decade to figure out that shortcut, it's ok boy... [14:14] adrien: :( [14:14] Action: adrien hugs eviljames [14:14] adrien: heh, never noticed it before [14:14] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.228.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:15] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:16] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:17] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:18] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:18] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:20] eviljames: did you know that when you press 'a' on the keyboard, it can type 'a' in the computer? =) [14:20] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [14:24] groo (~groo@187.46.149.103) joined ##slackware. [14:24] groo (~groo@187.46.149.103) left irc: Client Quit [14:25] adrien, he knows that now. :P [14:25] eviljames, It's been like that since kde 4.0 iirc. [14:25] ;-) [14:26] a [14:26] ah... "pat on the head", I was looking for that sentence earlier on, all I could think of was "fap on the head", damn english vocabulary =/ [14:26] *damn* [14:27] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-mfuftxkxuwfnwcxb) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:29] >.> [14:33] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [14:34] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-80-253.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [14:37] Action: eviljames burns down Necos' house. [14:38] whiskas (~mc@87.72.242.147) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:39] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [14:40] eviljames: whats wrong with you! [14:40] you know he doesnt have a house [14:40] poor guy irc's from under a bridge [14:41] xsamurai: eviljames lit Necos' box on fire [14:41] bridges got wifi now? [14:41] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:41] >.> [14:41] whats this world come to , before we just pissed on the bums boxes, never burned them [14:43] how'd i become the subject of jokes? >.> [14:43] Necos: you were there is all [14:44] ; ; [14:46] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:50] you guys are just a bunch of idiots [14:52] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] lol [14:53] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:53] jeev, thats internet. you finally got it [14:53] jeev: feeling at home? [14:53] :-) [14:54] and we are not *just* a bunch of idiots, we are slackware users awesome bunch of idiots [14:54] or something like that [14:55] guax: so its like, we are not complete idiots, some parts are missing [14:55] you mean, the bunch of idiot people still bother asking questions to even though they're using an other distro? hmmm [14:55] s/an other/another/ [14:56] adrien: cause idiots always have an answer ;) [14:56] pupit, we are nice idiots [14:56] pupit, thats not true, i can answer that to you [14:56] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.62.121) joined ##slackware. [14:56] guax: cute ones :D [14:56] =P [14:57] nvision (~nvision@g224250183.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:58] jeev: if only we would all just start bowing before your massive brain and tiny penis the world would be a better place, right? [14:59] nvision (~nvision@g224250183.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:59] heheh :P [14:59] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.50.230) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:59] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [15:00] eviljames: it would a conspiracy against small sticks and we dont want that kind of obligation [15:01] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:03] nick4 (~fffeop@77.49.2.221.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:03] btw, if anyone wants to waste time, I'd advise http://www.kongregate.com/games/Radx/enough-plumbers (flash game), really nice take on mario =) [15:03] hmmmm... [15:04] >.> [15:05] eviljames, both are big. bbl [15:07] wertik_rus (wertik@95-27-224-124.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:13] actualmind (~bd5aa03c@gateway/web/freenode/x-bbcynlhiktrngmtc) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:14] Esquire (Zod@vc-41-8-192-162.umts.vodacom.co.za) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[15:26] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [15:31] r0d (~rod@201.22.148.28.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: burp [15:31] i'll guess 640 hmmm, 4 drives (320gigs each) at raid 10 or 5 drives (160gigs each) at raid 5 [15:36] 2nd [15:36] 4+1 with a hot spare [15:37] raid 5 is fragile [15:37] very much so [15:37] me now i use raid 1 with 3 drives [15:37] es el crapo [15:37] raid 6 is better but raid 10 is z best but expensive in many ways [15:38] raid 6 becomes computationally expensive and takes up cpu [15:38] better then 5 and cheaper then 10 [15:39] fits pretty good at 6 [15:39] its the effort to reconstruct thats raid's weakness [15:39] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) joined ##slackware. [15:40] comp_ (~comp_@89.47.86.13) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:40] i've been searching, but i can't find a 64-bit version of adobe acrobat reader. does such a thing exist? [15:40] you gotta hammer the whole system while you rebuild [15:40] unfortunately, my replacement raid card doesn't support raid6 >.<; [15:40] do 10 then [15:40] and if it doesn't, can i run 32-bit binaries on slackware64? [15:41] i could do 10 with Terrabyte or larger drives [15:41] too expensive at his current drive size [15:41] Nick change: coolkehon -> coolkehon_ [15:41] how much space does he wanna end up with [15:42] RAID 10 is gonna be just as expensive as RAID 5 [15:42] but more robust [15:42] i like raid10. [15:42] how so ? [15:42] raid 10 != raid 5 in terms of space [15:42] in terms of drives [15:43] with 4 drives raid 10 can sustain failure of any 2, raid 5 can still only sustain 1 [15:43] yep i've had a couple raid 5 systems crap out on me oooo you can imagine the fun [15:44] but when you can get Tb drive cheap, why does the space matter [15:44] theres 2 and 5 tb drives out there for low prices [15:45] because, i CAN NOT get drives cheaply, because the school i work for has no money :) [15:45] im assuming its not his call [15:45] yeah [15:45] well most LAUSD is super duper corrupt [15:45] most of the directors pull in 150+ ezzzzly [15:45] well just say they're thermometers when you order them from office depot [15:45] bleh... [15:46] raid 5 will break yer heart [15:46] don't fall for its glamours [15:46] i have a limit of 6 drives... [15:47] can't you get like surplus gov't hardware? [15:47] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:47] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:47] i know nasa is always decommissioning tons of hardware some even new in box [15:47] so it's a matter of picking the best use of those 6 drives, and raid10 or raid5 will give me the same amount of space... [15:48] raid 10 gives you more security [15:48] looking over at my 7508 card, it does support raid10, so i mightgive it a shot [15:48] its moar betta [15:49] cause its got 2 raids bundled [15:49] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:49] one for redunancy and 1 for speed and doesn't have the raid 5 overhead [15:49] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [15:49] and everyone knows 2 raids is better then 1 [15:49] well, once this array rebuilds, i'm going to wipe all the drives and start from scratch [15:50] anyone have a commandline suggestion to delete files from the sendmail mqueue? (rm -f errors due to long list) [15:50] i just need it to rebuild to get the teachers' data off [15:50] use find with xargs [15:50] lee_, yeah delete the files in the directory [15:50] jimi: why use acrobat reader? any specific requirement or would another reader do it? (it's amongst the heaviest) [15:51] theres no command for it, i made an alias i call purgeq [15:51] adrien, usually it's because they want to read pdfs in-browser [15:51] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:51] i don't think it errors because its a long list, its because its changing while you're deleting it [15:52] so stop sendmail, clean the queue and start it again [15:52] Necos: I think is also has a bunch more features (like flash integration xD /o\ ) [15:53] i don't think that's a deal-breaker for most people wanting to use acroread [15:53] but reading pdfs in-browser is [15:53] pdfs blow oats [15:53] that's why, okular, for all it's prettiness is completely useless :P [15:54] Necos: not sure how to use xargs to achieve this.. [15:54] Skywise: that is the plan, but rm -f won't work. [15:54] and there's been plenty of effort in the mozilla camp to embed okular in to FF [15:55] find . | xargs rm -f ./{} [15:55] lee_, just do rm /var/spool/mqueue/* or whatever your is [15:55] there shouldn't be any need for -f [15:55] there shouldn't be any directories or special files in there [15:56] adrien: the customer want adobe reader. probably so they can have the same thing on windows and linux [15:57] adrien: and okular doesn't seem to work quite right [15:57] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-190-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] lee_, did you stop sendmail from running? /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail stop [15:58] yes [15:58] rm -f * returns an error do to list being too long .. [15:58] then you might have a file system error [15:58] about to try Necos' solution [15:58] considering the comment on slackbuilds.org, if you really want it, you'll have to turn slackware into multilib-yipikayaïlle [15:59] please read the rm man page and come back [15:59] ok, then unlink or rmdir -f /var/spool/mqueue and recreate it [15:59] That is not explained in the man page [16:00] Necos's command was the proper one [16:01] Does anyone know how and if xterm supports font substitution? Currently I'm using xterm with Liberation Mono which has no Japanese characters for example.. but isn't there a way to substitute another font for these chars? [16:01] Can't seem to find much info on this topic. [16:01] LinuxExpert is annoying me. Greatly. [16:02] he's a sneaky troll who behaves just enough not to get banned when ops are around. [16:02] jimi: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [16:02] lol [16:02] I watch him [16:02] (yeah, took me five minutes to get this link :-) ) [16:03] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:03] So far, he is trying to give expert help; that is an improvement over just boasting that his is an expert [16:03] jimi: you have customers that requested for Slackware? [16:04] s/that/who [16:04] Those are nice custimers! [16:04] alienBOB: yeah, but unlike you and robby, I hold a grudge for a long time. [16:04] Me too thumbs [16:04] Longer than robby [16:04] any of you that know of a pdf viewer that supports annotations (without kde or gnome dependencies)? [16:04] i have customers that went with my recommendation to switch to linux. the linux they switched to was what i recommended: slackware! :) [16:05] jimi: with a multilib configuration, Acroread will work [16:05] adrien: thanks for that link [16:05] is ./var/spool/clientmqueue/ used by sendmail too? [16:05] Although it means replacing Slackware's gcc and glibc packages [16:05] jimi: thank the author ;p [16:05] no idea lee_ [16:05] yes, thats where input are spooled [16:06] alienBOB: was that meant for me? know of any readers except acroread? [16:06] cityOfLights (~cityOfLig@p11811112.orange.net.il) joined ##slackware. [16:06] No it was meant for jimi [16:06] v3gard: what about xpdf? It's build upon Xlibs [16:06] hi all [16:06] I know of no other PDF reader that supports annotations, except for Okular and Acroread [16:07] does anyone here know about pppd chat? [16:07] here is all the data http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6268233.html#6268233 [16:07] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) joined ##slackware. [16:07] i personally use xpdf, but the customer needs acrobat [16:07] Necos' solutoin returns: "rm: cannot remove `.' or `..' [16:07] " [16:08] LinuxExpert: yes, but I cannot read the annotations using xpdf. i simply get an icon saying that the annotation is there [16:08] thats a good thing or your os would unravel [16:08] ah .. that's the last response from the process I take it .. [16:09] acrobat is using the QT , so it's run under KDE. [16:09] No [16:09] lee_ of course it wont work w/o using -r, but dnt do that! [16:09] Qt4 and KDE4 are separate [16:09] but anyway, as far as everyone knows there is no 64-bit version of acrobat? [16:10] Necos: thanks, that did the trick as far as I can tell so far .. [16:10] shinigami (~shinigami@201.47.18.157.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:10] And now for our heresy for the day: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/333 <- anyone other than me think this is actually a good idea? [16:11] i think hes a clown. and ubuntu is a circus [16:11] so yeah those ui ideas are nice for a circus [16:11] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:12] some people like circuses [16:12] jimi: no, there is not, and it is not planned either by Adobe [16:12] alienBOB: ok, thanks [16:13] that may influence things with the customer [16:14] alienBOB: hello there [16:14] alienBOB: the wiki page of both KDE and QT says KDE is based on QT.correct me if I'm wrong and no offence. [16:15] alienBOB: did you see my reply at bw64 forum? [16:16] eviljames: it indeed looks like a good idea [16:16] I haven't read everything but it looks good [16:17] LinuxExpert: yes, KDE is based on AT [16:17] *QT [16:17] i'm not too keen on running multilib slackware, primarily because i'm concerned i would be able to simply upgrade any package updates as they appear in patches/packages [16:17] my only problem is that I don't use window borders (no title bar) so I need a fallback [16:17] s/would/wouldn't/g [16:17] actually, I don't have title bars because currently they only waste space, that may change [16:18] netwolker (~netwolker@151.53.32.144) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [16:18] Kenjiro: yes [16:18] LinuxExpert: "based on Qt" does not mean, that KDE = QT [16:19] Qt is standalone and does not require KDE. The reverse is of course not true [16:19] Kenjiro: it's OK I did not mean to sound as if I attacked you [16:20] alienBOB: no problem. [16:20] So, LinuxExpert if you have an application which needs Qt, you still do not have to have KDE [16:20] that means KDE do support for QT applications. If there is no other dependencies then Acroreader will work fine. [16:20] adrien: Yeah, once these become useful (3+ years from now) you might want the decorations back [16:20] alienBOB: I really thought I had stated the "proper rights" when I first posted about the packages :( [16:20] KDE is _not_ required for Qt applications LinuxExpert - try to get that into your brain [16:20] eviljames: useful, and compatible between desktops [16:20] alienBOB: yes [16:21] Qt is just a library/framework, KDE uses Qt [16:21] I think I should ask on #openbox, openbox is one of the only WM without a panel (a panel isn't a WM's task...) [16:22] guax: yes that means if there is KDE then there should be QT runtime not the QT SDK. QT SDK should be downloaded from nokia. [16:22] runtime= dynamic libs that app links to. [16:23] hey its LinuxExpert! [16:23] LinuxSuperExpert: hows it going man? [16:24] eviljames: btw, have you noted the use of balsamiq mockups for the mockups as mentionned on proggit a few days ago (or maybe you don't read proggit?) [16:24] s0d0 (~sod@81.141.52.135) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Thales (~ttsailas@hq.enforcingit.com) left irc: Disconnected by services [16:25] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:25] ttsailas_ (~ttsailas@hq.enforcingit.com) joined ##slackware. [16:27] LinuxExpert: simply put, KDE needs QT, QT doesn't need KDE :P [16:27] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:28] Kenjiro: yes but KDE needs QT.that's the point. So Acroread will work from that premise. [16:29] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:31] LinuxUltimateExpert: so whats the link to the QT SDK? [16:31] Sigh [16:32] It's good that the channel logger works again [16:35] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:35] spook: http://qt.nokia.com/downloads it's a 32-bit binary file. [16:39] LinuxSupremeExpert: so I need the SDK to run KDE? [16:39] Wow [16:39] and guess what is inside the Slackware l/qt package [16:40] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] alienBOB: :P [16:41] spook: I had given the answer to this already.You don't need SDK to KDE. But you need QT runtime.runtime actually means set of dynamic(shared) library files.But there are some helders too.Because they are needed when compiling other programs. [16:41] but that's not QT SDK. [16:41] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:42] LinuxExpert, what the fuck are you talking about? [16:42] You can not compile Qt-dependant programs with just the runtime libraries LinuxExpert [16:42] mass_nerder (~c657631d@gateway/web/freenode/x-svdcyjuapaoeiwjv) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:42] You better shut up for now and gain some more expertise [16:42] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:42] Or move to #ubuntu for a while [16:43] one of the few times i wish alienBOB would abuse his op privs :P [16:43] You are so certain of your expertise, but really, you need to gain some more insight before presenting yourself as such [16:43] Necos: WOuld it really be abuse though? [16:43] Yes [16:44] cityOfLights (~cityOfLig@p11811112.orange.net.il) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:44] It's no intentional trolling [16:44] It's.... LinuxExpert [16:44] alienBOB: I know, I know. [16:44] Action: thumbs votes for a +q [16:44] lol [16:44] i believe he is LinuxSupremeExpert [16:44] Still, if there is going to be more false truths, I am going to apply the silencer [16:44] +q would be interesting [16:45] I use +q all the time. [16:46] it makes the user think twice about what he's doing - and show him that we're not booting him. [16:46] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] lee_ (~lee__@wsip-24-249-195-93.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:47] is any of you guys attending linuxtag? [16:49] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [16:50] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [16:51] alienBOB: are you a vim user? [16:51] dustybin: both vim and elvis [16:51] ok! [16:51] On Windows, gvim is my default editor [16:52] Using elvis kills babby seals. [16:52] gvim is the only editor that doesn't drive me insane on windows. [16:52] Action: alienBOB clubs jkwood [16:52] stop clubbing then, jkwood ;) [16:52] oh my... the bobs are multiplying [16:52] haha [16:52] FriedBob, alienBOB .... what's next? [16:52] :P [16:52] boioledBob? [16:52] haha [16:53] woops, "boiledBob" [16:53] jg71: BErlin? A bit too far [16:53] the picture to the clubbing, jkwood : http://tshirthell.vo.llnwd.net/e1/shirts/products/a472/a472_bm.gif [16:53] Could make it in a day's drive probably [16:54] alienBOB: ill go anyway. 25th chemspec + 100th ILA. (plus, i like berlin --- but i understand) [16:55] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:55] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [16:56] Necos: btw, http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/4.0u1/windows/index.html [16:56] has the vmware tools... [16:57] when you log a packet with iptables is the mac address the local and source mac address or the mac of the last host in the path [16:58] blondais (~blondais@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Nick change: blondais -> agris [16:59] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: chao pajudos =P [17:00] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [17:01] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: go home [17:01] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@81.141.52.135) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_spi [17:06] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:06] Skywise: study your networking. :) [17:07] ttsailas_ (~ttsailas@hq.enforcingit.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:07] i did better, i tested it, and its the router's mac [17:07] oh, ok adrien [17:07] i need a way to let a remote user log into a host who has a dynamic ip [17:08] Skywise, use dyndns? [17:09] i might have to use some kind of port knocking i think [17:10] Skywise: are you talking about how to setup a DMZ server? [17:10] no, i just have a contract developer for one of those new stans in eastern europe [17:11] s/for/from [17:11] and his ip changes daily [17:11] but i don't wanna allow the whole block from his ips [17:11] dyndns [17:11] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424320.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [17:11] ok then you asked the question backwards [17:12] you made it seem like the server was changing IPs [17:12] oh no, his ip is dynamic [17:12] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424320.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:12] i need a way to let a remote user log into a host who has a dynamic ip [17:12] who refers to the user not the thing [17:12] seemed like "has a dynamic ip" was describing the host not the user [17:13] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:13] otherwise i would of said "that has a dynamic ip" [17:13] it was awkward English which is why most people here did not understand you [17:13] like you need to setup a server behind a proxy. [17:13] common, guys, shut that off :) [17:14] DNS record should update when the IP changes?Am I correct? [17:14] the point of authentication is so you don't care about his originating IP [17:14] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:14] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:14] google for "password" [17:14] thats the 2nd layer [17:14] i don't care to have my server scanned by the net and thus block everything from anyone who's not allowed access [17:15] why do you care if you're scanned [17:15] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:15] why would i need a reason [17:15] Action: admboom thinks LinuxExpert is a bot that spouts random stuff almost related to current discussion [17:15] Hehe [17:15] ok, this convo is killing my IQ, i'm out [17:15] i'm not gonna try to guess what people may do [17:15] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.135) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:16] Skywise: you could setup a VPN and hand out keys that allow entry [17:16] That way, the client IP can be dynamic [17:16] admboom: shall we test your hypothesis ? [17:16] alienBOB, yeah, i suspect i'll have to do something along those lines [17:16] that means open ports :D he don't want to :D lol [17:16] OpenVPN needs one open port [17:16] xsamurai, was thinking it should have fired off by now [17:16] And ZeBeDee also needs one open port [17:16] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.228.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:16] LinuxExpert: ass clown says what [17:17] unplug the intarwebs and have your eastern europe fella send you the messages by carrier pigeon [17:17] With keyfile protection, you can make it sufficiently secure [17:17] HA [17:17] Add a password to unlock the key and its even better [17:17] Action: admboom loves SSL keys with passphrases, only way to fly [17:18] ZeBeDee was what I used like ten years ago, it allows you to control what the client can access once he crosses your border firewall [17:18] Vrytski (~rukia@201.47.18.157.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:18] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: ... [17:18] IP (-ranges) and/or destination ports [17:19] How can I activate the touchpad tap click in my HP DV5? [17:19] Vryt, it is prolly synaptics. if so, and on slack 13 you will need a HAL fdi policy file unless you prefer xorg.conf [17:19] Vrytski: you need to edit xorg.conf [17:19] Vrytski: man synclient [17:20] whoami (~Iam@host99-136-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:20] yeah, but limiting the range to croatia or another eastern block country doesn't really seem like much at all [17:20] Vryt, CHenges and Hints has a little blurb on the fdi file [17:20] raela (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:20] Skywise: i would go with openvpn like alienbob mentioned [17:20] yeah [17:20] openvpn + knockd [17:21] raendeer (1000@cpe-67-241-20-157.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] Vrytski: seatch for the word "tap" in http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [17:21] yeah, i didn't wanna have the client need to do anything too special, like installing software [17:21] but i'll see how it fits [17:21] ultimately, you can have an fdi with a line like: 1 [17:22] Skywise: ah, then knocking probably won't work for you. But it is a snazzy security through obscurity idea. [17:22] Action: xsamurai slaps eviljames [17:22] eviljames, yeah i may still do it [17:24] Action: eviljames accepts the duel. Pistols at dawn! [17:25] whoami (Iam@host99-136-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [17:25] whoot! [17:25] glove slap, i don't take crap! [17:25] i detest the word snazzy used in my company [17:25] haha [17:25] snazzy is a nifty word and is perfectly cromulent [17:26] Skywise: i dont know the extent of the work that needs to be done on the server, you can always just setup svn+rsync environment where he can sync his code/work on his machine with your "dev/prod" box [17:27] xsamurai, its a replica of the production system for him to test with [17:27] wow i had no idea hal was that old [17:27] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.21.234) joined ##slackware. [17:27] as old as the wind.... [17:27] o, well vpn it is [17:27] not the wind, but older than firefox [17:28] Action: dustybin wants a Linksys NSLU2 [17:29] I totally agree with the xsamurai [17:29] when was hal born? [17:30] 2003 or earlier? [17:30] i could prolly use webdav, but i didn't wanna set it up for a single user [17:30] Shuren (~Devilman@host210-42-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [17:30] around that time i see fedora 3 had hal 0.4.0 and firefox 0.10.1 [17:31] what time? [17:31] admboom: well its a fact now [17:31] 2003-2004 [17:31] Shuren (~Devilman@host210-42-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:32] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-190-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:32] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:32] yeah that's about right [17:32] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] though it might be a technicality, as firefox was a name change in early 04 from firebird [17:33] and firebird was a name change from phoenix or summitz [17:33] Does anyone have an explanation for this: when I put libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins as a symlink to libflashplayer.so.old it fails? But when I just move libflashplayer.so.old to libflasheplayer.so... presto :-( [17:33] mancha: from fenix [17:34] phoenix... [17:34] Mmm no indeed. [17:34] Shouldn't shout first and lookup later ;-) [17:34] man, phoenix was so damn fast (but so minimal) [17:34] Zosma: type about:config and you can edit the plugin folder where to search. [17:34] and what file to search. [17:34] LinuxExpert: but that doesn't seem to be the problem. [17:35] As it is all within /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (the symlinks are *within* that dir too) [17:35] Zosma, why not put it in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins? [17:35] also, '03 is NOT old, yo [17:36] Necos: because I want it systemwide? :-p [17:36] did anyone use any OS that was kudzu based? [17:36] s/OS/distrib [17:36] if you're the only user, it's kind of pointless ;) [17:36] Yeah but obviously I'm not the only user. [17:37] :-) [17:37] there's nothing obvious about it - access to /usr/lib more or less implies single-usery [17:38] OK well obvious or not, no clues about why symlinks (within any plugin directory) fail? [17:38] raela (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:38] Zosma: you ran "ldconfig" inbetween? [17:38] alienBOB: uh I think I rebooted because I needed to anyway, that runs ldconfig too right? [17:39] Can try it manually though. [17:39] Yes it is run on boot [17:39] Zosma, pics or it didn't happen [17:39] Perhaps the linker does not like.old extensions [17:39] Mmm that could be or course. [17:39] Zosma: may be you can dig to the log files to see what's goes wrong. [17:40] you need the explanation know. [17:40] * what [17:41] raendeer (1000@cpe-67-241-20-157.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:42] Hehe nope running ldconfig doesn't do the trick, let me try without .old extension [17:42] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:42] or you can configure it to use old extension. [17:43] Yep [17:43] That was it [17:43] Thanks all, especially alienBOB :-) [17:45] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:47] alienBOB: do the ldconfig affects the shared libraries that open with the dlopen() ? [17:47] Vrytski (~rukia@201.47.18.157.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Saindo [17:47] Kenjiro (kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left ##slackware. [17:48] The loader will look in only a few specific lib directories and ldconfig creates a cache of what is inside these libdirectories [17:48] * does the ldconfig affect the shared [17:48] So that the loader can find them more easily [17:49] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) left irc: Quit: life is but a dream [17:50] LinuxExpert: generally, dlopen() looks in the cache, and ldconfig caches /lib,. /usr/lib, and /usr./local/lib [17:50] and I'm not sure about /lib [17:52] Mmm didn't fix it, apparantly there are more people with mouse clicks not working in flash... [17:52] 13 or current? [17:52] adaptr: yes that configuration is on file /etc/ld.so.conf and default is read the /lib and /usr/lib.The guess is correct according to the man page version that I'm reading. [17:52] I have sound issues with flash and firefox, if I leave it opened for too long, too. [17:52] adaptr: current [17:52] I know it won't help if I say it worked ootb for me on both chrome and firefscks [17:53] but I wil suggest chrome as a superior browser [17:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [17:53] do libraries need to set the setuid bit?I don't think so.but not sure. [17:54] libraries only need world read permissions [17:54] they're never executed, nor written to [17:54] adaptr: call me paranoid but I don't like that so much becomes Google.. even if the browser is technically superiour. [17:54] you're paranoid :) [17:54] Uhu :-P [17:54] I know it's a stupid reason but meh... [17:55] Zosma: thou shall not talk about skynet [17:55] Hehe [17:55] so we can talk abot google then ? [17:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Dunno, they might be listening. [17:56] ;-) [17:56] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] adaptr: google is skynets ugly retarded ad serving brother with monopoly issues worse then Microsoft [17:56] granted [17:57] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:59] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:59] Zosmas:may be the firefox -console will open a console window that you can visualize what is going on where is the bug.Just only a idea. [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424320.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424320.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:05] a 128gb usb flash drive for 300 confuses me as to if its a good value or not [18:05] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:06] LinuxExpert: thanks, but I think I found it on the Arch forums: [18:06] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:06] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=639858#p639858 [18:06] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 does the trick, might help some others. [18:10] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] the 128gb is .42 gb per dollar and a 16gb usb stick for $34 is .47 [18:12] so you get more for your money with the little guy, but you also need 8 of the little guys for the same capacity and thats cumbersome [18:14] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:14] Mmm [18:17] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.113.249) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:17] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:18] ZeTa (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [18:18] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Disconnected by services [18:18] Nick change: ZeTa -> StarX [18:19] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [18:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.113.249) joined ##slackware. [18:27] usb 3.0 flash drives are supposed to be out pretty soon [18:27] $70 bucks for 16gigs [18:29] hmmmm [18:30] Skywise: may be 1st bit stored in the first stick and 2nd 2nd stick ..... 8th bit in 8th stick.May become super parallel exploitation. [18:30] anyone familiar with ACLs on ext filesystems? [18:31] LinuxExpert, ummmm, no... [18:32] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:32] i want a USB belt [18:32] Necos: Yes [18:33] Familiar... [18:33] can scp copy ACLs? [18:34] i've never tried it, and there's no mention of it in the manpage [18:34] i doubt it [18:35] crap ; ; [18:35] since the acl semantics depend on the filesystem [18:35] rsync might know how to [18:35] v4nelle (~van@79.107.247.60) joined ##slackware. [18:36] if so rsync over ssh is easy [18:36] Necos: I don't believe scp knows how to look at the acl/user_xattr metadata to transfer it. [18:36] You can use GNU tar, which has options. [18:36] i'll check out rsync first [18:36] oh hah yeah tar over ssh is also easy [18:37] thats a good idea sinuhe [18:37] ssh -T or something similar...? [18:37] I don't believe rsync does either [18:37] tar cvf - dir/ | ssh who@where.com tar xvf - [18:38] er tar cv is fine [18:38] You can use getfacl and reimport the getfacl output with --restore [18:38] (setfacl) [18:39] getfacl and setfacl, you mean? [18:39] getfacl output (redirect) imported with setfacl --restore [18:41] been so long since i had to restore acls on an fs... this is the first time i've had problems with this raid array since 05 or so [18:41] xsamurai (~jamonyou@69.43.199.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:42] Mine went down last night: motherboard hosed. I was really bummed, too; I'd just finished the 13 upgrade, and the modification of my install scrpits. Shit happens. :) [18:42] s/pit/ipt/ [18:42] computers suck [18:42] Yeah, and Slackware makes them more tolerable. :) [18:42] agreed [18:43] hehehe [18:43] i love mutt's slogan [18:43] It's true [18:43] Slack sucks less... [18:43] reminds me of that cig commercial [18:44] r0d (~rod@187.53.4.196) joined ##slackware. [18:44] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:44] #linux [18:44] ? [18:45] my list of programs that don't suck is short but growing [18:45] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424320.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:45] i3 <3 [18:47] what i3 [18:49] can you tcpdump streaming video ? [18:49] lol [18:49] i probably worked it wrong [18:49] oh you could [18:49] but you'd have to be insane [18:49] im playing a video and i can't get it anywhere [18:50] Skywise: there is no other program that works at all [18:50] its rtmp [18:50] macman_: if its ip you can tcpdump it [18:51] http://wiki.kaspersandberg.com/doku.php?id=howtos:acl <--- useful [18:51] but that won't let you turn it back into video so easily [18:51] GooseYAr1: the wm [18:51] juan--d-_-b: ion3? [18:51] juan--d-_-b: I like that one too [18:51] dosen't make a diffrence i just want to grab it [18:51] GooseYAr1: no, http://i3.zekjur.net/ [18:51] i3 is the name of a damn processor :P [18:51] Necos: that article dosen't exist [18:51] http://i3.zekjur.net/ <-- but its a wm too [18:52] juan--d-_-b: oh hah, not the same, but close [18:53] http://www.intel.com/products/processor/corei3/index.htm <--- also the name of a processor [18:56] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:59] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.62.244) left irc: Quit: Elvis has left the building [19:02] Kontrol (~ID@host113-127-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [19:03] blumb (~blumb@brln-4d0c7c9c.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] hmmm, can anyone get to 3ware.com? [19:06] I get a 403 [19:07] from IIS, ewww [19:07] seems someone removed the site:-) [19:07] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.31.90) joined ##slackware. [19:07] gospch (~gospch@p5088F4FB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] ; ; [19:08] nowhere else to get the linux utilities from... [19:08] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.62.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:09] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [19:09] blumb (~blumb@brln-4d0c7c9c.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:09] store.3ware.com seems to work [19:09] www. get a bad hostname [19:10] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:10] wierd... [19:12] sluckxz (sluckxz@anapnea.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:12] or the internet archive and get a link to the files [19:12] hmmm, tired, *poof* [19:12] so any help on the tcp thing ? [19:12] mind you, I get a connection timeout on slackware.com [19:13] this is odd... [19:13] if you take off the www. 3ware.com/support will work [19:14] invalid hostname [19:14] http://showmehowtodothat.com/3ware_install/CentOS_3Ware.html <--- i stumbled upon this, and the link in the video works [19:14] but i need the x86-64 version [19:15] http://3ware.com/support/download.asp <--- this works strangely enough [19:16] im trying to save this stream http://pastie.org/944413 [19:16] if you can figure that out i think im on my way [19:16] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:17] edthix (~ed@115.133.246.3) joined ##slackware. [19:18] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [19:18] well adding _64 to the url in the video work: http://3ware.com/download/Escalade9650SE-Series/9.4.1.3/3DM2_CLI-Linux_x86_64-9.4.1.3.tgz [19:19] it actually works [19:19] i couldn't copy the url for some reason (gave me the adobe flash menu) [19:20] thanks though :) [19:20] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:21] FriedBob (~Drinne@c-68-55-75-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] well if you download the link, then you can ask firefox, to give you the url while it is downloading [19:22] lol durp, why didn't i try that in the first place :) [19:22] lol [19:22] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [19:22] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:29] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:30] no, its the most popular drink in the galaxy as described in the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy [19:30] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:30] oh shit... i need to re-read that book [19:30] often desribed as being smashed in the side of the head with a gold brick wrapped in a slice of lemon [19:31] yeah, i could use one of those [19:42] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:44] nvision (~nvision@g224250183.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:45] well, i'll just let this raid rebuild... hopefully i'll come in tomorrow morning and it'll say 100% >.<; [19:45] later folks [19:47] aghori (~chatzilla@78-105-163-91.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:48] M1ck3y (~jon@106.sub-75-219-5.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. 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[20:21] hey andarius [20:22] salutations echelon [20:22] :) [20:23] ok, for some reason xdg-open doesn't check xdg-mime to get the preferred application for a filetype [20:24] andarius, would you be willing to test it? :-/ [20:26] or anyone? :-/ [20:27] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:28] why does slackware use the cvs version? -_- [20:28] same for 13.0 and -current [20:28] of xdg-utils [20:28] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-32.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:29] echelon: I am not running slackware on my desktop [20:29] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:29] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:29] oh, alright :-/ [20:31] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-24-79.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[22:03] i need someone to test something [22:04] Still haven't given anyone the opportunity to help you [22:04] i'm trying to find out why xdg-open isn't using the preferred application for a mime-type [22:04] there we go [22:05] slackware is using a cvs version even though its labeled version is 1.0.2 [22:05] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] i noticed this problem too. haven't looked into it at all. what makes you think you have the 'preferred' mime-type set correctly? [22:05] echelon, which slackware? [22:05] i used "xdg-mime install" as it's supposed to [22:06] 13.0 and -current both use the same version [22:07] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad23a5.async.vt.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:07] hiptobecubic, what mime-type did you try to set? [22:08] Is this true for your case? "application is the desktop file id of the application and has the form vendor-name.desktop application must already be installed in the desktop menu before it can be made the default handler. The aplication's desktop file must list support for all the MIME types that it wishes to be the default handler for." [22:09] yeah, just needs to be located in /usr/share/applications/ [22:09] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.173.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:10] actually, the MimeType doesn't need to be mentioned in the .desktop file [22:11] i've verified this with someone else [22:11] the man page is wrong? [22:12] `xdg-mime default .desktop ` [22:12] besides it didn't do anything for me [22:12] echelon, right, but the man page says that must one of those listed in the .desktop file [22:12] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-69.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:15] ok, so, i have mimetypes set in the .desktop file.. hasn't done anything [22:16] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-79.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:16] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [22:16] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] echelon, bummer [22:16] bigpaws (~bigpaws@clsm-207-7-180-87-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] screw this, i'm reverting to 12.2's build [22:19] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:20] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:20] psYcker (~psYcker@201.165.137.229) joined ##slackware. [22:21] fuuu [22:22] hiptobecubic, can you try installing a mimetype and trying it out? [22:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.162.140) joined ##slackware. [22:23] echelon, probably not [22:23] :D [22:23] how come [22:23] echelon, because i am drunk [22:24] echelon, is it complicated? if it's just some oneliner commands i can manage perhaps [22:24] yeah.. just tell me what file you want associated [22:24] with which application [22:24] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [22:24] filetype* rather [22:25] lets do gif images and xv [22:25] ok [22:26] hrm.. there's no xv.desktop [22:26] how about gqview? [22:26] sure [22:27] xdg-mime default gqview.desktop image/gif [22:28] it might complain if you don't have ~/.local/share/applications/ [22:28] you'll have to create it [22:28] did not complain, did not work [22:29] xdg-open ? [22:30] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:31] echelon, opens firefox [22:31] same -_- [22:31] awesome [22:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:34] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:34] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:38] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:41] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:41] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-139.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:43] powtrix- (~powtrix@189-69-22-172.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[23:46] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-110-192.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:47] config syslogd write on -/dev/tty12 [23:48] Hi, for some reason my term is being exported in X as linux instead of xterm like normal. Where should I look to change this. [23:49] i know .bashrc though why is it being set globally this way? [23:49] etc/profile? profile.d/? [23:49] /etc/profile is vanilla slackware [23:50] only thing i changed was adding utf8 support in lang.sh [23:50] that wouldnt do it [23:52] yeah. it looks like it has something to do with xfce-terminal [23:52] where it asks to specify term it isn't saving after hitting okay. [23:52] Action: wario checks permissions [23:54] okay. nothing wrong there. Setting it manually in the config file fixed it. Don't know why configuration gui isn't saving [23:56] okay strange. now it's reverted my changes [23:57] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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