[00:02] dissocia1ive: why? [00:02] Guest5387 (n=a1g@72.192.98.237) left irc: "l8r" [00:03] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] I'm more into seeing someone write a scrip that grants root privs to random build build scripts than asking why hahaha [00:04] hey maybe I can make more typos in one sentence than that one ^ [00:05] ba-ba-build script. [00:05] I used to md5sum /dev/cdrom to verify that a burned disc has the same contents as the ISO that I burned, but `md5sum /dev/cdrom` isn't touching the disc at all. [00:05] check the symlink [00:05] rworkman: why? pom(6) .. that's why! ;) [00:05] It points to /dev/sr0. [00:05] Which doesn't work eitehr [00:05] either* [00:05] sr0 isn't a symlink, it's the raw device [00:06] No bytes are being pulled, according to dd. [00:06] Yet I can mount the disc. [00:06] I came home from real work today and a renting tenant called me saying the sink was leaking. So I go up there and check it out to find that the disposal unit had thrown a bearing and was leaking water mixed with raw chicken juice all over the place. [00:06] I had to replace the whole thing [00:06] man pom [00:06] I dont like running things as root unless its really necesaryç [00:06] Action: byteframe blushes. [00:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.31.52) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:10] if this is truly a surprise to anyone in this industry I'd like to know which amazingly quiet and remotely placed rock they crawled out from under http://www.tuaw.com/2009/11/01/think-those-warranty-parts-are-new-think-again/ [00:11] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] Refurb has been common for at least 10 years now. [00:12] yep [00:12] Down with the iphone. [00:12] Sometimes you can tell the parts are truly new. [00:12] at least is even an understatement [00:12] it's been a long time now [00:12] Like when IBM shipped me new cover doors. [00:12] For my thinkpad. [00:13] I've work for companies in which their whole business model was based around selling refurbished parts back to OEMs [00:13] As long as the replacement is warrantied, I don't have an issue with the practice. [00:13] same here [00:14] I buy refurb disks all the time, as long as SMART and badblocks come up clean and the device has a warranty, I'm good [00:14] If I get sent some obviously-damaged replacement, I'll be calling on it. [00:15] I don't expect new drives are even 100% new. [00:15] how do i sync my time with a server that has the correct time? [00:15] SMART has to be enough [00:15] Reticenti, NTP [00:15] dissocia1ive: it is certainly not enough. [00:15] thrice`: Thank you. That worked perfect, SeaMonkey built without issue. [00:15] If you want to do it one time, "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" [00:16] disk can have problems before and after SMART reports them in any attribute [00:16] What do you mean by problems? [00:17] wrt the cdrom, nevermind. It works with another disc. [00:17] media defects, excessive power on hours, prefail conditions... [00:17] Oh, thought you were talking about HDDs... [00:17] a number of issues. [00:17] what do you think I'm talking about? [00:17] I am talking about disks [00:17] I thought you meant: mapped out errors [00:17] or, contamination in the drive [00:18] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [00:18] an actual destructive read write pass is much more reliable than only a SMART read out [00:18] Hm...I wish Slackbuilds had a most downloaded or highest rated [00:18] so I can try out cool new software [00:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:19] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:20] when i do ntpdate i get this error: 2 Nov 21:12:56 ntpdate[3736]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting [00:20] anyone know how to fix that? [00:20] Reticenti: stop ntpd or restart it [00:20] ntpd is running and using the socket that ntpdate is trying to use [00:21] ah [00:21] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [00:22] and i edit /etc/ntp.conf with the servers to check the time, right? [00:22] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [00:23] Reticenti, you can do that, or you can just say 'ntpdate servername.ntp.org' [00:24] ... [00:24] I guess veritos doesn't read scroll buffers [00:24] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:24] archyblue (n=archy@24.96.203.244) left ##slackware. 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[00:34] antiwire, it's currently a gentoo box that hasn't been updated in two months; this can't be any worse. [00:34] I'm not knocking Slackware [00:35] i know [00:35] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [00:35] i'm saying that the crew are okay with it [00:35] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-253-214.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:36] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:37] woo, new firefox [00:43] epaphus (n=unix3@201.199.62.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] woo [00:49] firefox introduced me to OSS [00:56] cbp (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:36] chenfengyuan| (n=chenfeng@117.136.10.14) left irc: "used jmIrc" [01:37] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [01:39] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) left ##slackware. [01:40] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.31.67) joined ##slackware. [01:41] willca_ (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:42] hi guys, I just installed Slackware 13. I changed my screen resolution to 1024x768, but every time X starts it goes back to 1600x1200. And I have to change it back to 1024x768. [01:43] why is that? [01:43] alreadygone: because its auto detecting, you'll probably need to use an xorg.conf to stop it going too high [01:44] spook, xorgconfig does not exist anymore... [01:44] and there is a xord-vesa.conf (I think) in /etc/X11/ [01:44] alreadygone: i meant /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:44] should I manually edit it? [01:45] create one with the bits you need, the rest should autodetect [01:45] ok. [01:45] you'll need the monitor section. [01:45] I know the Horizontal and vertical refresh rates [01:45] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:45] don't worry [01:45] now to a more serious problem: [01:46] there used to be a nice penguin on top left corner of screen while slackware was booting. Now there is a black animal with a fake beak on its mouth. [01:46] why? [01:47] alreadygone: what's with your nick? [01:47] what's wrong with it? :) [01:47] why you're calling yourself like that. [01:48] I liked the song ... by Kelly Clarkson... [01:48] alreadygone: just is. [01:48] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] spook WHY? [01:48] http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Kernel-Log-Tasmanian-devil-to-be-Linux-s-temporary-mascot-new-Radeon-drivers-740667.html [01:48] y0 Rat409 [01:48] Nick change: BP{k} -> withabottleofsak [01:48] Nick change: withabottleofsak -> BP{k} [01:48] haha [01:48] hey fire|bird [01:48] alreadygone: that should explain it [01:48] dammit :) [01:48] Rat409: How's it going? [01:49] good,thanks,yourself? [01:49] Rat409: great, thanks. Trying to figure out why xfce's power manager isn't showing/working on the laptop. :/ [01:49] It's running, just not working. :P [01:49] winter, whats with your nick? [01:50] alreadygone: He likes the winter season. :P [01:50] :) [01:50] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:50] fire|bird: hmm any recent updates? [01:50] let him explain... [01:50] Rat409: I updated xfce4-power-manager myself, but 0.6.6 (slack's version) quit working too. [01:51] fire|bird: with the update did you install libnotify? [01:51] ok wollw, now I get it. about the logo. thanks. [01:51] BP{k}: sure did [01:51] np [01:52] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:53] BP{k}: It is running (checking via ps aux | grep power) just not showing up on the panel, and with the brightness plugin, when I mouseover that (which doesn't show an icon, but it's still there) it shows No Device Found. [01:54] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:54] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-220-37.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:55] i'd kill it then run it in xterm see if any errors show and/or grep dmesg [01:56] Hmm, forgot to check dmesg, but did kill it and start, etc. [01:56] :-| I have installed Slackware 13 on my system which is a PIII 866MHz, 384 RAM. Now I think I'll have to buy a better PC. Can't go back to Slack 12.2... [01:56] BP{k}: Do you have 0.8.4? [01:56] the brightness applett im own exp has come/gone as versions change [01:56] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [01:57] fire|bird: nope, I only remembered that 0.8.4 needed libnotify. [01:57] BP{k}: ok. I know that what ps aux | grep power is different for me than what chopp has. [01:58] Mine shows: xfce4-power-manager --restart --sm-client-id and the a series of #'s and letters. [01:58] His is just xfce4-power-manager [01:58] fire|bird: and he has the same version? [01:58] alreadygone: just use fluxbox or some window-manager,run the kde apps from a wm will help some or just use xfce4 lightweight apps [01:58] BP{k}: yeah [01:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [01:59] Rat409: dmesg isn't any help. :/ [01:59] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.67.132) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:59] fire|bird: I am not to far off heading out. but ping me some point tomorrow when I am back and I'll load it up on the laptop if you haven't found it then [01:59] Rat409, I know I must try them. :) thanks. [01:59] BP{k}: ok, will do. Thanks. :) [02:00] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: Client Quit [02:00] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[02:24] sier (n=sier@unaffiliated/sier) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:24] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [02:25] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [02:25] morning [02:25] y0 slackytude [02:25] slackytude: morning ;) how are you today [02:26] hiya fire|bird [02:26] hi The-Croupier [02:26] y0 The-Croupier, fire|bird [02:26] Im doing fine [02:26] coz I gotz coffee! \o/ [02:26] how about you? [02:29] same here [02:29] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:29] ;) [02:29] ^-^ [02:29] we are getting a new branch manager today..;) [02:30] slava_dp: hiya [02:30] thats good? [02:30] hey The-Croupier, how are you doing? [02:30] any ideas how to make him leave quicker? [02:30] slava_dp: not bad bro...how about you? [02:30] The-Croupier, we are having snow today, first time this year :) [02:31] the conversation ^^ reminds me of a router restart...when it starts finding out all the devices ;) [02:31] slava_dp: we are having a branch manager today...first time ever ;) [02:31] The-Croupier, good for you :) [02:32] slava_dp: is that good?! [02:32] The-Croupier, i dunno. you tell us :) [02:33] slava_dp: ive never been in a company that long to see the changes ;) [02:33] i thought some of you would know ;) [02:34] meet the new boss, same as the old boss [02:34] RedSocrates (n=RedSocra@cpe-69-207-175-250.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:35] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [02:36] i see...;) i forgot my katana at home this time though :p [02:38] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-89.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:47] Is there any way to execute a script (logout script) when I exit X? [02:47] zippo123 (n=djames_0@74.115.0.2) joined ##slackware. [02:49] zippo123 (n=djames_0@74.115.0.2) left ##slackware. [02:50] shik4nt4z4: just type logout in terminal i think [02:50] if you are in X and want to logout..most of wms have logout button...;) [02:50] if in terminal just exit or logout i think does the job ;) [02:52] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-143.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:56] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-135.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:58] shik4nt4z4: if you use .bash_logout [02:59] other shells,not sure [02:59] anyways bedtime be well all! [02:59] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:01] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Client Quit [03:02] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. 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[03:29] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.32.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [03:30] Nick change: Instained_Atom -> Epigrammaticus [03:30] Nick change: Epigrammaticus -> Instained_Atom [03:32] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [03:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:35] Lalloso (i=8a843669@gateway/web/freenode/x-b677a876553dd830) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [03:37] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-135.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:43] The-Croupier: No, that is not what I want. The thing I need is when I press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace in X it will exit X but also will logout. [03:46] shik4nt4z4: something like key mapping? [03:47] Agiofws: :( you in athens?!! [03:47] Well, I was thinking that there may be a X logout script. [03:47] not yet [03:47] why ? [03:47] well your login said.. athedsl Athe..;) [03:48] 250Km from it [03:49] shik4nt4z4: what you ask for, you can get by running "exec startx" instead of just "startx" [03:50] X will run normally, then when you exit X, you're back at a login: prompt on the console [03:50] Agiofws: ;) nice ;) [03:51] Urchlay: OK. I will try that. [03:51] Now I need to go. See you later. [03:51] you can even add some code to .bash_profile [03:51] if [ "`tty`" = "/dev/tty1" ]; then exec startx; fi [03:52] that'll automagically start X when you log in on the first console, but not the others [03:53] Urchlay: Nice. :-) Thank you! [03:53] welcome [03:53] Urchlay: nifty [03:54] `` is depreceated tho [03:54] if anybody cares [03:54] slackytude: I do. [03:54] hi shik4nt4z4 [03:54] Hello fire|bird! [03:54] hey deciphering|blinking [03:54] er Urchlay [03:55] slackytude: I copy/pasted that from 10+ year old code, so sue me :) [03:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.19.197) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:55] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [03:55] Urchlay: :P [03:56] the new way is $() [03:56] which I like way better [03:57] they're also functionally different in certain situations. as for deprecated, i love my backticks, take them away and i will find you and i will hurt you! :P [03:57] they sucks and need to die ^-^ [03:57] heh [03:57] honestly I like `` just fine. In all my years of scripting, I've never run into a situation where I wanted to nest them (which is the only thing better about $(), it nests) [03:58] if you're nesting command interpolation, you're probably doing something the hard way, and need to simplify the code [03:59] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:00] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] fire|bird: hey, the nick-generator just spat out: infantryman|army [04:04] I think it's starting to become sentient [04:05] what is it i need to export in a terminal, export DISPLAY=:0 or something? [04:05] Urchlay: yeah, it seems that way. [04:05] spook: export DISPLAY=:0.0 [04:05] fire|bird: sure? [04:05] spook: that's what I use. [04:05] hmmm [04:06] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:06] fire|bird: yeah, echo $DISPLAY gives me that. [04:06] Urchlay: the second one I got was: redressing|maintainability [04:07] Urchlay: haha, here's a good one: involuntary|toleration [04:09] Well, time for me to get going. Later guys. Take care. [04:10] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:10] uhuh [04:11] ’ [04:11] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:12] is www.gimp.org down or summit? [04:15] it's down [04:15] been down for a few days now...wonder what's up [04:15] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.32.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:16] maybe ddos [04:21] the gimp's sleepin' [04:25] wkae up the gimp! [04:29] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:34] http://developer.gimp.org/ is up [04:34] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-85-37-216.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:34] hello all [04:34] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.21.148) joined ##slackware. [04:38] Morn [04:38] morninng [04:40] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:42] kr_eten (n=quick@client-73-63-226.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [04:43] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-143.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:44] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-143.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:46] http://linuxgazette.net/168/misc/doomed/0000154.jpg ^^ [04:46] morning :) [04:48] that is not dominatrix hair [04:49] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-143.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:50] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-143.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:51] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-143.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [04:51] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-143.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:52] nheco (n=nheco@201-35-151-121.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:53] greetings gentlemen [04:55] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [04:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [04:56] Camarade_Tux: i really like the troll "We all know linux makes great servers" [04:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [04:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:00] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:01] sidh: how is that trolling? [05:02] Action: sidh doesn't want to feed the troll [05:02] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [05:02] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [05:04] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:05] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-142-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:05] hi [05:05] morning [05:06] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:06] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:07] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:07] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:07] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:07] niels_horn (n=niels@189.106.163.195) joined ##slackware. [05:09] slackytude: you been accusing of trolling ... again...:p [05:09] Action: The-Croupier lol [05:10] slackytude: thou shall be burnt! [05:11] Action: The-Croupier agrees with ^^ [05:12] huh? [05:12] what have I done :( [05:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [05:12] slackytude: it doesnt matter ... you exist..:p [05:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:12] *sniff* [05:12] nobody asked me if I wanted to exist [05:12] can't help ot [05:12] s/ot/it [05:13] slackytude: well, ask your father to be careful where he puts his "stuff" so he doesnt make the same mistake twice ;) [05:14] -_- [05:14] Quiznos: your g-line been overturned? [05:14] Quiznos: hope not [05:15] my father always said: "your signature and your "stuff" you must be very careful how you use them, they both screw you for life" [05:15] Zordrak yes [05:15] shame# [05:15] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:15] only on you for supprting witches. [05:16] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:16] i did nothing contrary to rules [05:17] ok.. what *did* you do? [05:19] Zordrak: he said "nothing" [05:20] or what have you been accused of? [05:21] and sorry for asking -_- [05:26] Camarade_Tux: accused, convicted and sentenced.. hu's been banned from the server for weeks [05:27] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:27] Anyone knows a good reference for security settings / tips on Slackware? I remember a site like www.slacksec.{org,com,net} or something, but can't find the link... [05:28] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:28] common sense ftw [05:32] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-134-178.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:32] I do know the basic rules like "don't start services you won't use", putting up a basic firewall, etc... Looking for something more "in-depth". [05:32] niels_horn: slackware is secure by default [05:33] slackware isn't unique in this sense, consider any solid linux (unix) security book [05:33] ^ [05:33] niels_horn: consider alienBOB [05:33] security is a state of mind, not a bunch of rules [05:33] :P [05:33] alienBOB's wiki [05:33] indeed, slack [05:33] slackytude [05:34] slackytude: hehehe, I agree... [05:34] there are some nice stuff on security in alienbob's wiki, rworkman's site as well...and google linux security and books in general ;) as mancha said...;) [05:35] kut zi iternetz cable [05:36] run a honeypot, it's fun too [05:36] The-Croupier: ok, I got many things from alienBOB's site already. I'll "google around" :) [05:36] jg71: this is a channel for slackware, not windows -_- [05:37] ... [05:37] Camarade_Tux: How about wireless? :P [05:38] start the microwave oven :D [05:38] Camarade_Tux: LOL... [05:39] niels_horn: yeah.. you "do that" [05:39] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [05:39] (afk now...) [05:39] me too [05:40] snooooo [05:40] ch [05:40] hi Zordrak [05:41] ohai [05:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-134-178.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:43] BabyAngel_ (i=enigma@41.236.13.51) joined ##slackware. [05:45] _MaggoT_ (n=Newbie@125.161.222.236) left irc: "Leaving" [05:48] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:50] ime for school [05:56] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-138-31.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:59] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-138-31.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:04] gapan (n=gapan@adsl54-38.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:04] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left ##slackware. [06:05] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-84-57.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:09] hmmmm, I'm tempted to recompile my flac binary [06:14] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.163) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:15] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:18] Nick change: hexorcist -> quasar [06:20] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-143.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:21] How do you add an extension number when calling from a mobile? [06:21] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [06:22] you should be prompted for it [06:24] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-63-84-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:25] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-63-84-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:28] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.22.215) joined ##slackware. [06:28] jonsmith1982: what do you mean add an extension? [06:28] Zordrak an internal phone-extension number [06:28] either append it to the number or wait for a prompt.. same as a landline [06:29] Quiznos: you never answered my question [06:29] Zordrak, "You can apply for this job by telephoning 0785 570xxx ext 0 and asking for ...." [06:29] your question is unworthy of an answer. [06:30] appending to number doesn't work, at least not from a mobile. [06:30] ignore it.. itll be auto-generated from a form with extension input [06:30] just dial the number [06:31] Thanks alot, you two. [06:35] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [06:37] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. 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[08:06] replace the kernel, rerun lilo [08:07] Delago, to find out which packages place items in /boot, try "grep boot/ /var/log/packages/*" [08:07] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:08] grep boot/ /var/log/packages/* | cut -d : -f1 | sort | uniq [08:08] for a nicer list [08:08] and reinstall those packages with "upgradepkg --reinstall" from your DVD [08:08] or using slackpkg reinstall from an online mirror if you havent rebooted yet [08:09] you should probably ignore the "aaa_base" package [08:10] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [08:10] ok [08:10] trying that [08:11] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.134.191) joined ##slackware. [08:11] hi there [08:12] I'm using Xfce and tryignt o make a launcher for AA. when I open a terminal and run ./crx in the directory it runs fine but when I run /path/to/crx it shuts down with this: http://pastebin.com/d11635dbe [08:12] Slackware 13 [08:13] Can configure the launcher with multiple commands? [08:13] Chakravanti, what about: "cd /path/to/crx; ./crx" ? [08:14] That's what I'm looking for thanks thrice` ! [08:14] lol, ok :) [08:14] lol :) [08:15] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [08:15] alias game="cd /path/to/crx; ./crx" [08:15] hmm doesn't seem to work [08:15] and run "game" :-) [08:15] failed to lauch child processes [08:15] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A450.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:16] but ./crx from that directory works? [08:16] yes [08:16] impossible [08:16] they should be the same O_o hmph [08:17] i tried 'cd /path/to; ./crx' & 'cd /path/to/crx; ./crx' [08:17] same error, failed to launch child process, no such file or directory [08:18] i hope you don't write '/path/to/crx' literally [08:19] no [08:19] ask in #xfce if you can do that [08:19] and/or how [08:19] okay thanks [08:19] what is AA anyway? [08:19] Delago (n=ubuntu@193.239.140.184) left ##slackware. [08:19] Alien Arena [08:19] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A0BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:19] why is it named crx? [08:19] FPS based on the Q2 [08:20] no frikin clue [08:20] lmao [08:20] probably something to do with Quake2 [08:20] Nick change: caio -> Guest83741 [08:20] where did you install it to? [08:21] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-120.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:21] /home//progs/alienarena7_32/ [08:22] progs is where I put everythign I compile manually [08:22] Action: slava_dp just makes a pkg [08:23] I ahve to compile the source because the guy who compiled the release binary linked to jpeg 7 by mistake [08:23] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [08:23] so the AA is self-built? no wonder you got problems. [08:24] well i don't have any problems with the game itself [08:24] just figuring out how to make it run in the launcher [08:24] huh? you told us you can't run it. [08:25] No, if I cd to the directory and run ./crx the game runs fine [08:26] do you want to create a .desktop file or something? [08:26] bash -c "cd /path/to/game; exec ./crx" [08:26] ( cd /home/user/progs/alienarena7_32 && ./crx ) ? [08:26] mm, sorry, I must step out for a bit [08:27] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-136-195.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:28] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-109.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "so many assholes, so few bullets..." [08:29] I'm tryignt o make a toolbar launcher [08:30] eddief (n=eddie@pool-68-161-209-154.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] try the thing i wrote. bash -c .... [08:32] i did [08:32] no luck [08:33] I hate word [08:34] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:34] scallop__ (n=scallop@mcn-ud07181.miyazaki-catv.ne.jp) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [08:34] Action: Camarade_Tux replaces slackytude's winword.exe with works.exe [08:34] happier? :) [08:35] Microsoft Works = Oxymoron [08:35] ;-) [08:35] i hate doc. i just opened 2 of them with kword made with god knows what and they are really messed up [08:36] Action: slava_dp shreds slackytude's works.exe and puts swriter in it's place. be serious. [08:36] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:36] gaha! got it.... [08:37] Just set the workign directory and then the command itself was just ./crx [08:37] haven't messed with launcers much since switching to slackware =P [08:38] Microsoft Works = Oxymoron [08:38] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Word yo [08:38] NPI [08:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-251-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:41] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [08:45] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:48] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-56-248.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:48] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [08:48] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:06] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [09:10] vvor (n=vvor@bzq-82-81-147-223.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:14] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:15] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:20] hi all, wich version of wine shoud i take for slack 13.0 x64 ? 1.1.8 ? [09:21] adrien_, whichever is on sbo currently works. [09:21] sbopkg -i wine [09:21] sbo ? [09:21] http://slackbuilds.org [09:21] enjoy :) [09:22] thanks dude :) [09:22] also http://sbopkg.org <-- a nice frontend. [09:23] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] juan--d-_-b (i=1000@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [09:23] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [09:24] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:50] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [09:52] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:53] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-32.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] anyone interested in getting a recent webkit-gtk? [09:53] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.20.162) left irc: "Leaving" [09:54] that means installing glib2 libraries in a different prefix and a few other things [09:54] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [09:54] anyone use gle here? [09:55] I have slightly-modified slackbuilds for glib2 and friends but not everything, if anyone wants to have fun with me and try to make slackbuilds for webkit-gtk and its deps, :) [09:56] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/webkitgtk/ done! [09:58] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-101-239.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:58] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:59] Camarade_Tux: yes, i have to install Outlook2007 and IE [10:00] thrice`: no, I mean the more recent ones which require glib2 >= 2.21.3 [10:00] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [10:02] adrien_: you need http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [10:02] does wine run on 64 bit ? [10:03] adrien_: please don't put too much bad words in the same sentence [10:04] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-84-57.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:04] wine64 runs on 64bit but can only be used with 64bit windows apps [10:04] anyone use gle here? [10:05] wine(32) is what you want to run win32 apps [10:05] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@114-45-233-227.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:05] Camarade_Tux: i was wondering because we don't have wine64 ports on FreeBSD [10:06] it requires gcc-4.4. [10:06] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-41-111.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:06] ahhhhh so it will NEVER be ported then [10:06] ;) [10:06] port the bits required ;-) [10:07] ;) [10:07] explore_ (n=msparker@pool-173-57-92-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] explore_ (n=msparker@pool-173-57-92-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:09] hmmm, should I finally install multilib here? [10:09] noooooooooo [10:10] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) joined ##slackware. [10:11] i just found out that if i press Scroll Lock in a tty, the program pauses. how weird. did you know about that? [10:12] cbp (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:12] for ((i=0; i<9999; i++)); do echo $i; sleep 1; done then press Scroll Lock and the output will magically pause! [10:13] does anyone have gloxyslack kdm + splash theme somewhere in the HD to share? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/GloxySlack-kdm?content=100420 [10:14] slava_dp: um [10:14] slava_dp: yeah [10:14] slava_dp: it locks the scroll [10:14] sidh: :P i frenchy, how are you ? [10:15] Camarade_Tux: ok thanks for the tip [10:15] Zordrak, i hear about that first time in my life. stumbled upon it by accident. always wondered what that key is for..... [10:15] pprkut: whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? [10:16] julioc (n=Who@187.10.87.147) joined ##slackware. [10:16] adrien_: :) [10:16] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-32.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:17] and i suppose scroll lock makes the application pause too? or just it's output? [10:17] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-41-111.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:18] slava_dp: see the wikipedia article [10:18] depends if output is synchronous I guess :D [10:18] kr_eten (n=quick@client-73-63-226.speedy-net.bg) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:18] kr_eten (n=quick@client-73-63-226.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:18] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] GATT0 (i=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:20] y* [10:21] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [10:21] wikipedia implies that only the output is paused, not the app. where is it buffered then? [10:22] its not [10:22] strangest thing, i think some build i ran recently took off my /tmp's sticky bit [10:22] if an app is pushing to STDOUT and STDOUT has been paused.. the app will wait for its STOUT calls to suceed before progressing [10:23] oh wow. i need some more insight into unix system workings. [10:23] think about STDIN [10:23] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-192.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:24] slava_dp: in the pipe [10:24] thanks for clarifying, Zordrak [10:24] slava_dp: think about this: yes | sbopkg -i foo [10:24] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [10:24] technically "yes" would be spitting out a zillion "yes"es a second if it could [10:24] ohh, now i see it. [10:25] but cause its piped into a program's STDIN it only outputs a yes when the program chooses to read a line from STDIN [10:25] unless it's doing it asynchronously :P [10:25] indeed [10:25] adrien_: fine and you ? [10:25] but the process writing to STDOUT would still pause leavintg the other processes to continue [10:26] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:26] for my sanity-check, can someone pastebin their "ls -l /" [10:26] sidh: im well thanks (my last nickname -> needhelp) remember ? :) [10:26] mancha: no :D [10:26] mancha: shd be rwxrwxrwt [10:27] pick a nickname and stick with it. [10:27] anyone has experience downgrading a bios? [10:27] Camarade_Tux: most wont take it [10:27] adrien_: stop using use my forname -_- [10:28] Zordrak: you mean for the bios? [10:28] recent asus boards flash programmers refuse a downgrade for example [10:28] yes with asusupdate -> then sav :) [10:28] that's what I thought but wanted to ask anyway (it's actually for a friend of mine) [10:28] AWDFLASH.EXE is the programmer itself i think.. [10:30] awdfash dont want tu downgrade a FW, there is an old relase of asus update but i had crash my bios with [10:31] will upgrading to gtk 2.16 break shit? I'm trying to install devede and it's calling for gtk 2.16 and I'm wondering if i should upgrade or try to use an older version [10:32] Slackware 13/Xfce [10:32] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-228-154.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:32] you mean gtk+2 ? [10:32] yeah [10:32] probably [10:32] i ahve 2.14 [10:32] oh, I remember that now, I wasn't able to downgrade with asus either [10:32] Zordrak: not probably [10:33] back up then try it [10:33] DEFINITELY [10:33] Camarade_Tux: the boy needs to learn :) [10:34] Zordrak: not with glib2/atk/pango/gtk+2, you only learn that they are annoying to deal with [10:34] learning is learning [10:34] Chakravanti: tried an older devede release? [10:34] i was thinking that might be easier [10:34] or more stable [10:34] i figure if slackware uses gtk+2.14 then it's for a damn good reason [10:36] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:36] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:36] Action: thrice` disagrees [10:36] Chakravanti: the reason is prabbly pat hasnt been arsed to get that far yet with -current cause itll be a major upheaval [10:36] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] well, there are reasons not to jump to most recent (gtk) versions, but not necessarilty for *this* release [10:37] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [10:37] but a recent gtk+ may need a more recent glib too [10:37] 2 [10:37] -current is now 2 major versions behind, and I've hit a few apps that demand newer. which is dumb [10:38] bitch at the appdevs to jump to qt :) [10:38] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:38] rogersman (n=gr235423@192.18.1.36) left ##slackware. [10:39] okay well after digging some more it seems the switch is recent so i'm gonna try devede 3.13 (versus 3.14) [10:42] good decision [10:43] err...3.12c apparently [10:44] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/picking-out-my-desktop-linux-765193/ :) [10:50] if i can find it...christ you'de think they'de archive at least recent versions [10:51] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [10:51] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:51] farchanjo_ (n=Brazil@189-93-170-210.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:51] and what about handbrake? :p [10:52] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-183-247.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:52] farchanjo_ (n=Brazil@189-93-170-210.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [10:53] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-170-210.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:53] looked into that a while ago [10:53] after all this i think i'm going to try again [10:53] i sued hanbrake a few times within slackware [10:53] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [10:53] limited on the conversion [10:54] awesome if you have an iPod Touch. Not so awesome for generic conversions [10:54] correct [10:55] mostly wanting to use it to make DVD isos [10:55] skipping on the pyuthon would be a major + [10:57] handbrake is easy to compile :) [10:57] I have a slackbuild that pulls SVN and builds handbrake, if you're interrested [10:58] (their SVN is much nicer than the 0.9.3 release) [11:00] Nick change: ivenkys_ -> ivenkys [11:01] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [11:03] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [11:05] miked (n=mike@203.88.90.202) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:05] EKayFive (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-148-188.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] jescis_ (n=jescis@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-41-111.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[11:33] :D [11:33] perhaps even the number of concurrent requests it can handle.. but it cant be that.. mssql couldnt do more than two :) [11:34] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [11:35] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] looks like socket == core [11:37] oh.. no.. actually might be literal sockets (cpus) [11:37] bah.. sorry.. no closer [11:38] ah.. google "per-socket licensing" [11:39] appears to be per processor (physical socket) for MS [11:39] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "leaving" [11:40] Zordrak: I'm leaning towards you, but my google-fu is bad today. [11:40] the phrase above would seem to have the most fu for the topic [11:43] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] juan--d-_-b (i=1000@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:45] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:00] snL20: not only a bad joke .. please don't put shit like that in channel and quote your commands. If someone accidently c+p's the irc buffer as root, that could pottentially be quite disastrous. (And there have been instances where people have been kicked for it). [12:00] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:01] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:03] snL20: Indeed. Consider this your first and last warning. Such activity will _NOT_ be tolerated here. [12:12] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [12:12] juan--d-_-b (i=1000@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:12] Nick change: shik4nt4z4 -> Guest84408 [12:14] Nick change: Guest84408 -> m4lik [12:14] Nick change: m4lik -> help [12:14] ##slackware: mode change '+b help!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:14] help kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: requested [12:14] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [12:15] snL20, is it possible to make this command even as root? [12:15] snL20, system will agree? [12:15] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:15] tmkd: you shouldnt run it... anyway I suspect your a troll for asking that :P [12:15] shik4nt414 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [12:16] tmkd: Un-installing is not easy. What version of Slackware? [12:16] 13 [12:16] shik4nt414 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) left irc: Client Quit [12:16] 32-bit? [12:16] yes [12:17] well, it would be easy if he grabbed a slackware package, or made one [12:17] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [12:17] snL20: If he had done that originally, yes, but that ain't what he did. [12:17] Hello! [12:18] Alan_Hicks: too bad opera's install script doesnt have an uninstall option.... [12:18] i didnot install opera from package, there was tgz.bz2, and install.sh inside [12:18] He coukd make a package configured the exact same way and install and remove that package. [12:18] tmkd: What version of opera? [12:18] XGizzmo: thats an idea [12:19] Alan_Hicks, newest, i downloaded few minutes ago [12:19] XGizzmo: I've considered that, but it may be more trouble than is needed. [12:19] installing a slackware package of opera will probably overwrite the old files installed by opera's installer [12:19] tmkd: Alright, I'm grabbing that and will look at it. Hold on. [12:19] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: "Resetting gateway" [12:19] mako-sama: Assuming opera's installer doesn't place things in /usr/local or in some weird locations. [12:20] Alan_Hicks: yes of course [12:20] tmkd: You downloaded the version for Slackware, right? [12:20] right [12:21] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:21] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:22] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [12:22] they're also all in ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux [12:22] the website just makes it a bit simpler [12:23] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] tmkd: I *think* the following command will work for you... "( rm /etc/operaprefs*; rm -fr /usr/lib/opera; rm `which opera`) [12:24] heheh so i have to do it manually, there are not any uninstallers? [12:24] ugh. I both love and hate open office... [12:24] tmkd: No, but everything seems to be in /usr/lib/opera except for three small files. [12:24] ok thanks [12:25] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:25] tmkd, this is why distributions use packages :) [12:25] i have a question about linux, in windows this way of deleting software is bad because a lot of stuff are in register, system folder, what about this procedure in linux? [12:26] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-67-6.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:26] tmkd: Not an issue for most things. There is no equivilant of Windows' universal registry. [12:26] and now I'm hating it becuase hte desktop integration subpackage they have for slackware is for kde3, and it also not in the correct path anyway [12:26] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-101-239.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:26] ok, Alan_Hicks did you hear about BLAS library? [12:26] tmkd: The GNOME desktop has gconf, which is similar to the registry, but it's only of use for GNOME utilities and projects. [12:26] xfce uses one also [12:27] mishehu: this is why you use the build script at SBo to create the package; I already worked out the menu crap. [12:27] tmkd: No. Where did that come from? [12:28] rworkman: what's SBo ? [12:28] Action: deco facepalm [12:28] Alan_Hicks: many projects out there use gconf. it's not only gnome.org apps/utils [12:28] rworkman: slackbuild? [12:28] .org [12:28] Was that rock heavy? [12:28] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Alan_Hicks, this is Binary Linear Algebra Subprograms, needed for octave for example [12:29] mako-sama: he was talking about gnome ... [12:29] Alan_Hicks, this is couple of fortran files, how can i install it? [12:30] tmkd: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/blas/ [12:30] SBo is your friend. [12:30] Alan_Hicks, oh thanks [12:31] Action: rworkman goes back to work [12:31] rworkman: nice, going to give the script a spin. I'm still not used to looking things up in slackbuilds.org... [12:32] deco: ? [12:32] and to think I've been using slackware since 1994... [12:32] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Action: Necos stabs mishehu [12:32] SBo is definitely your friend and copatriot [12:32] or something >.> [12:33] If you've been using Slackware for that long, writing your own build scripts should be a breeze. [12:33] Alan_Hicks: you forgot usr/share/opera and the other dirs under usr/share but except for the opera dir the rest can be a pain to clean up... :| [12:33] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:33] to think, i used to actually compile by hand >.> [12:34] Alan_Hicks, what is SBo? [12:34] slackbuilds.org [12:34] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-192.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:35] ohh.. [12:35] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:39] tmkd: most of the time on slackware you want to compile from source, but then you loose out on package management... but thanks to slackbuilds.org people contribute scripts to make slackware packages of popular software :) [12:39] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:39] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:40] snL20, i know:) [12:40] tmkd: heh ok :] [12:40] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-192.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:40] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Nick change: haqe17 -> jIxxie [12:41] tmkd: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/opera/ [12:41] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] tmkd: :D [12:41] i wantmy soup [12:41] snL20, o f.... , i should look SB first [12:41] hiptobecubic, did you ever get stepmania running on your slack? [12:41] chee, i did. [12:42] :D [12:42] help me [12:42] chee, as of right now, stepmania 3.9 can't handle background video, everything else seems to work [12:42] chee, let me find my buildscript [12:43] hiptobecubic, :3 [12:43] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:43] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [12:43] snL20: we have been installing from source for years and without losing package management. it's common sense to make a package out of what compile beofre installing ;) [12:44] mako-sama: funny! I've been doing make install on slackware for years, maybe I'm just lazy =) [12:45] snL20: lazy or you didn't know ;) [12:45] how do you upgrade software? [12:45] mako-sama: hey, I even learned to use makepkg after using checkinstall a while :] [12:46] speaking of that, i've never used checkinstall [12:46] chee, it's a bit complicated :D [12:46] checkinstall was good before everything supported DESTDIR [12:46] Action: chee will fight with passion and guts [12:47] Necos: --prefix iirc [12:47] but some packages screwed up if you did that [12:48] chee, first you need to go get the step 3.9 src ball along with ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1 (ancient) and mplayer-r..... nvm let me upload a tar.gz somewhere [12:48] before DESTDIR, your chances were say, 70%, that you could make a package just by changing --prefix [12:48] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:48] Necos: yeah, like irssi didnt like much to be installed in /tmp and made a package of =) [12:48] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Action: chee :3 hiptobecubic. plz also bear (or is it bare) with me, while I go and get soup [12:48] deco :3 [12:48] chee, sure, upload will take a minute anyway [12:49] Is there a consensus on the least disruptive Gnome distribution for Slack? ISTR one which made major system changes.. [12:49] chee:eeeEEE!!! [12:49] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:50] fuzzix: like dropdead gnome err I mean dropline gnome :) [12:50] Alan_Hicks: bash scripting isn't my forte. I normally take existing buildscripts and modify them to my needs. [12:50] snL20: Think that was the one, I think. [12:51] Alan_Hicks: so your comment about having used slackware since 1994 is about as accurate as saying "oh, you've been using computers for the past 25 years, oh you should be fluent in binary machine code!" [12:51] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:51] mishehu: isnt everyone! 31c0b002cd80 [12:51] snL20, looks like hex to me [12:52] firedix (n=firedix@host227.200-117-148.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:52] snL20: ah, you see, you are using hexadecimal [12:52] hiptobecubic: yeah, well I didnt want to flood the channel with binary =) [12:52] to which my reply is 0xDECAFBAD [12:52] and 0xDEADB33F [12:52] mishehu: watch your mouth! [12:52] snL20, 01110011011101010111001001100101 [12:53] actually, the only binary code you should be concerned with is 001100010010011110100001101101110011 [12:54] chee, http://john.bitsurge.net/public/StepMania.tar.bz2 It's ugly, but it works... or it did on this machine anyway. You still need to go get the stepmania-3.9-src and 3.9a (data files) from stepmania.com [12:54] that's if you want to time travel [12:54] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] 4.5 bytes? [12:55] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:55] echo -ne '\x31\xC0\xb0\x02\xcd\x80' | ndisasm -u - [12:59] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-87-91.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:59] moo :) [12:59] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@h69-129-27-145.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-192.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:03] elinks.SlackBuild is saying i have an insane preprocessor :( what should i do? [13:03] kill elinks developper or buy another proc ? :) [13:03] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] hello, how can i shows gcc that libs are in another place, [13:04] says I need an ISO C conforming compiler in config.log [13:05] Emeaudroide: preprocessor != processor [13:05] indeed [13:05] hiptobecubic: is your slackbuild for stepmania 3.9 or 4.whatever.beta? [13:05] 3.9 [13:05] soptecpe (n=alex@187.146.80.193) joined ##slackware. [13:05] how much patching did you have to do? [13:06] tmkd: if you're looking to point gcc to libs (shared or static) use -L/path/ ... if you need to tell it where header files are use -I/path/ [13:06] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Urchlay, I haven't tested how much patching we can get away with /not/ doing. but the stepmania devs basically said. "We can't support 3.9 anymore. We don't know how it worked or what's going on there. Use the working builds or try the beta" [13:07] Greetings everyone. :) [13:07] hi fire|bird [13:08] hiptobecubic: I ended up with a 255-line diff, just to get it to compile. It still needs more though (it's looking for the data files in the current dir, which is no good really) [13:08] Urchlay, considering that it needs an old version of ffmpeg just to NOT crash when a background video is called up, i'd say it's approaching 'abandonware' status. It's a shame since 4 isn't out yet. [13:08] i installed the new nvidia drivers from slackbuilds, and now i can't startx [13:08] somethings wrong with my xorg.conf... [13:08] fl_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:09] hey. [13:09] hi jar_corefile [13:09] any ideas what packages to install for ext3 support? [13:09] hello fl_ [13:09] Reticenti: Did you modify it to use the nvidia driver? [13:09] ah, I hadn't got as far as getting it to run enough to find the ffmpeg problem :( [13:09] I have no ext3fs tools installed at all. [13:09] hey hey fire|bird [13:09] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:09] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left ##slackware. [13:09] Alan_Hicks: i was using nvidia before [13:09] Urchlay, i gathered up a bunch of patches from the arch community as well as some that the devs themselves pointed me to... which THEY had to create to get it to compile against the ancient ffmpeg they were using. I got it to build and play, but bg videos are always just black [13:10] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] Urchlay, which is better than it was. If you compile it against modern ffmpeg, it completely crashes at video playback instead [13:10] fl_ (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) left ##slackware. [13:11] Alan_Hicks: and the xorg.conf is using nvidia [13:11] Urchlay, chee, In addition to all of this :D I've taken to running it in it's own Xserver because it has crashed the entire x11 session.... although never when i was playing with a dancepad, only keyboard. [13:12] hm, did you try building that old version of ffmpeg as a static lib, and pointing the stepmania configure script at it? [13:12] i was typing that -_- [13:12] Urchlay, yes, that's the only way. That's what that script does that i posted... along with the 12 patches or whatever that i found [13:13] hiptobecubic: so your build is completely playable/functional, except it somehow murders the X server sometimes? [13:13] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:13] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Urchlay, well... except for the background video which is in some songs (and can be disabled in-game or removed from the song folder altogether) [13:14] eh, so using the old ffmpeg doesn't actually make the video work? [13:14] Urchlay, right. It just stops the game from crashing. Which it will do EVERY time using new ffmpeg [13:15] danklesman (n=dankles@74.166.63.180) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:15] bleah. [13:15] and 4.x beta isn't really playable yet? (I haven't even looked at it) [13:15] Urchlay, Yeah it's really a drag, although, you almost don't notice when you are playing. I played for an hour or so yesterday and it was all fine. [13:16] Urchlay, well my personal experience is that it's totally unstable (not to mention hideous). I can say that when it DOES work, everything works. [13:17] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:17] The website doesn't really suggest using the beta instead of 3.9. Just that it's available "if you're feeling adventurous" or whatever they say [13:17] heh, did you try the 3.9 windows exe in wine? [13:18] Reticenti: have you installed the *two* nvidia "packages" from slackbuilds.org? [13:18] Urchlay, well i'm not multilib so that's not an option here. I read about it though and it's not fast enough apparently. [13:18] from looking at the code, the 3.9 devs seemed to be targetting windows mainly, and the linux support is an afterthought [13:18] Camarade_Tux, i didn't realize that there were sbo packages for the drivers until maybe two weeks ago :D [13:18] hiptobecubic: ^^ [13:19] Urchlay, well... it IS a game... from several years ago to boot. [13:19] I think 4 is more linux/mac-friendly but again, it's like a house of a cards [13:20] Camarade_Tux: i think what happened is that i installed the nvidia drivers from their website, and i also tried installing the slackbuild ones, so they were conflicting, so now i'm just installing the official nvidia ones [13:20] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:20] well, slackbuilds' is official too [13:20] catch-22 situation. Game devs don't support Linux or else support it poorly, then more game devs come along, look at the poor support, and conclude "Linux sucks at games" [13:20] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-129-243.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:20] td0s (n=toby@94-193-120-89.zone7.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Camarade_Tux: yeah, but they conflict when you try to install two of them :\ [13:21] Urchlay, indeed. I blame directX and .net... but that's me :) [13:21] hi, i installed g77, by typing tar -xvf g77-intel.tar.gz -C / end now while typing g77 system shows cannot execute binary file [13:21] is it +x? [13:21] Reticenti: yeah ;-) [13:21] Reticenti: the slackbuilds.org nvidia drivers *are* the official ones (just packages up so you can use installpkg/upgradepkg/removepkg instead of the nvidia installer) [13:22] Reticenti, yes [13:23] Urchlay: everytime i try to install them though, i can't start X because it says there is a version conflict [13:23] tmkd: huh? Where did you get that g77-intel.tar.gz? (for that matter, why are you trying to install fortran?) [13:23] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:23] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:24] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:24] Urchlay: last time the nvidia drivers were updated, i isntalled them, and i couldnt startx, so i had to go back to the nvidia supplied ones [13:24] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:24] binary solo! [13:25] jIxxie (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left ##slackware. [13:25] jIxxie (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:25] tmkd fwiw I had probs with the same error message, turned out to be lack of compat32 libs as I'm running slackware64 [13:26] Urchlay: g77-intel looks like a weird package name, why -intel? [13:26] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:26] lack of compat32 libs should not stop nvidia drivers from installing. [13:26] Urchlay, its needed to octave [13:26] howdy BP{k} [13:26] Reticenti, i'd just uninstall everything nvidia-graphics you think you have installed, and then install the slackbuilds as they are. [13:27] tmkd: OK... so what you should have done: find the gcc-gfortran package from your slackware DVD (or from the FTP server) and install that. For 32-bit slackware 13: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/d/gcc-gfortran-4.3.3-i486-3.txz [13:27] suppose the library /libkdeui crashed. How can I check to which package it does belong to ? [13:27] how call this gfortran? g77? [13:27] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] hiptobecubic: how would i go about doing that? [13:28] g77 isn't really a standalone compiler, it's like an add-on for gcc. It needs to match your gcc version. [13:28] paul424: grep libkdeui /var/log/packages/* [13:28] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) joined ##slackware. [13:28] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] and yeah, if you install the gcc-gfortran package, you can run the compiler as "g77" [13:28] fire|bird: howdy. How goes? Did you get the xfce-power-manager sorted? [13:28] Reticenti, are the SBo packages installed currently? [13:29] thumbs (n=avenger@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:29] hiptobecubic: yeah [13:29] What is the error you receive when you try to startx? [13:29] BP{k}: thanks [13:30] BP{k}: Goes great, thanks. you? No, I didn't, I've been in contact with the maintainer though, debug output, etc checks out, no issues. I see on the ml that rworkman had the same issue, but 0.8.4.1 fixed it, but it hasn't fixed it for me. Ali asked me to let him know if I keep having the issue, and he'll install slackware to try and reproduce the problem. [13:30] hiptobecubic: when i install the sbo nvidia driver and kernel thing, it says that the version of the nvidia driver doesnt match, the sbo one is something like 185.x, and the nvidia supplied one is 90.x [13:30] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:30] fire|bird, weird, 0.8.4{,.1} are both OK for me too :( [13:31] as was 0.8.3.1, actually [13:31] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] thrice`: very odd indeed. [13:31] Reticenti, 90.x? Are you sure? [13:31] did seamonkey build ok? [13:31] Axius (n=fd@92.85.211.151) joined ##slackware. [13:31] thrice`: yes, it did. Thank you very much. [13:31] hiptobecubic: sorry, 190.x [13:31] awesome :) [13:32] td0s (n=toby@94-193-120-89.zone7.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:32] hiptobecubic: sbo has the same version, but when it installs it, some reason it gets changed [13:32] Reticenti, ok let me see what mine says :) [13:34] Urchlay, i installed gcc-gfortran and g77 command doesnt work [13:34] Reticenti, are you 'build'ing a package for nvidia-driver or 'install'ing the one you already built? [13:34] thrice`: I can't place anything as having happened to have caused this power manager issue, it just up and quit working, and this is with slack's version, 0.8.4, and 0.8.4.1, even with new .local, .config, .cache, etc. It's weird. [13:34] hiptobecubic: i'm using sbopkg, so hopefully installing it [13:35] fire|bird: roger. I'll whip my laptop out in a moment and have a look [13:35] BP{k}: ok, thank you. :) [13:35] hi [13:35] hiptobecubic: i'm really sorry, but i have to go to class right now :\ [13:35] fire|bird, try to "adduser xfce_sucks" and login as them? [13:35] Reticenti, no problem [13:35] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-109.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Reticenti, good luck [13:36] thanks for the help though [13:36] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:36] thrice`: hahaha, I didn't think of trying with a new user. I'll give that a shot, sec. [13:37] tmkd: you might be having problems because you previously tried to install some ancient g77 that doesn't match your system. Can you pastebin the error messages you get when you're trying to compile a fortran program? [13:37] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [13:38] thrice`: nope, same thing. [13:39] when i type g77 i see cannot execute binray file [13:39] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] yeah, that's a leftover from your previous botched attempt to install [13:39] hello world [13:40] fire|bird, well, maybe that's good :) at least you can quit messing around in $HOME. still, more confusing at the same time :( [13:40] thrice`: yeah, very confusing. [13:42] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [13:42] tooly (n=tooly@e178168139.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:42] thrice`: I could see it persisting with 0.8.4 beings rworkman had the same happen, but I'm using 0.8.4.1 and it still isn't working. It's running, just not working/showing up. [13:42] fire|bird, which ML is it, out of curiosity? [13:43] Urchlay, really when i will install gcc-gfortran i will able to use g77 command [13:43] ? [13:44] thrice`: xfce-dev is where rworkman spoke of it, my commmunication has been with Ali directly via e-mail. [13:44] you said you already installed it...? [13:45] Urchlay, ok it works, package install g77 in another dir , usr/bin no /usr/local/bin, i have to change PATH [13:45] I would say "yes" if you hadn't already extracted g77-intel.tar.gz (I have no idea whether that will cause problems for you, at this point) [13:45] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:45] Urchlay, listen, when i type g77 it start /usr/local/bin/g77, now i want to execute /usr/bin/g77 [13:46] how change it? [13:46] hash -r [13:46] hash -r? [13:46] yes [13:46] ok works [13:46] i though # r [13:46] :) [13:47] nah, that'd just be a comment [13:47] hiptobecubic: actually, i'm skipping my first class :P [13:47] Reticenti, that's the spirit :D [13:47] also, i went into #ubuntu, and it's a cluster fsck in there [13:48] also true. [13:48] fire|bird, bummer :( sorry, don't think i'll be of any help there :) [13:48] trying to get the ati drivers to work on linux = :psyduck: [13:48] haha [13:48] especially since ati dropped legacy cards, which is what i have :3 [13:49] the only time I've not had the sys-icon fail to show up, was when I had a problem with librsvg package (needed to show the actual icon) [13:49] There's usually someone that can help, if you don't drown in questions about calculator and why it doesn't just default to logging in as root for convenience [13:49] thrice`: Hmm, maybe a good sign, I just plugged in the ac adapter, and it popped up, Xfce Power Manager, battery is charging. [13:49] Reticenti, ... you are trying to get nvidia drivers to run your ati card? [13:49] still no icon though. This is on the xfce_sucks account. [13:49] brb [13:50] hiptobecubic: no, two different computers :) [13:50] hiptobecubic: ubuntu on my wifes computer and it has ati, and slack on my compy with nvidia [13:50] Reticenti, If you want to use the legacy ATI drivers, stick with Slackware 12.2. [13:51] adamk_: i'd prefer to use ubuntu, since it's for my wifes, and ubuntu is easier to use.. [13:51] but i'll keep that in mind [13:51] Reticenti, Then you need to stick with Ubuntu 8.04 [13:51] Axius (n=fd@92.85.211.151) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:52] ah [13:52] Reticenti, The legacy drivers will only work with X server 1.5.* or older and kernel 2.6.27.* or older. [13:52] Reticenti, Alternatively, you can use the open source drivers. [13:52] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] oh, but the wifi doesnt work on this laptop with ubuntu 8.04 [13:52] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC3083E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:52] what chipset? [13:53] on the wifi card [13:53] adamk_: if i do that, then the computer crashes, (i'm pretty sure it's due to the X driver) [13:53] intel pro 3945/abg [13:53] Reticenti, well long story short, i'd go back to sbopkg. BUILD and then Install both nvidia-kernel and nvidia-driver [13:54] Reticenti, It's certainly possible that there's a bug in the X driver or server, but those are pretty much your options. If you report the bug and followup on #radeon, someone might be able to help you. [13:54] true [13:54] and i'll try that after school today hiptobecubic [13:54] intel pros should work fine with any distro [13:55] i remember when 8.04 came out, t didnt [13:55] oh, i remember, [13:55] i had to enable the backports and download another package, but without internet, i couldnt [13:55] so i was in a catch 22 [13:55] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-92-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:56] and you amde sure your wireless killswitch wasn't enabled? [13:56] exit [13:56] yeah, lol [13:56] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) left irc: "leaving" [13:56] i troubleshooted it for about a week [13:56] thats stupid don't but couldn't you have hardwired the laptop and done all of that? [13:57] but now that i have 2 computers, i should be able to use the backports [13:57] and wifi was the only option at the time [13:57] oh that kinda stinks then [13:57] yeah [13:58] My first /real/ entry into linux was ubu8.04 [13:58] my first dive into linux was slack 10.2 =D [13:58] my first linux was slackware 12.1 on an old laptop i got from a friend and then i let my other friend use it he put slackware on it [13:58] I had tried gentoo a few years earlier, but that was a total disaster because i didn't know what i was doing at all [13:58] hiptobecubic, Reticenti: stop making people feel old ... its not polite [13:58] mnaybe it was 11.2 [13:59] jar_corefile: were you using slack 1.0 back in the day? with a stack of floppies? [13:59] it was about three years ago so maybe it was jsut 11 [13:59] I vaguely remember using SuSE after brand new kde3 came out, but kde was too annoying for me :) (still is) [14:00] jar_corefile: and you rode a dinosaur to work? [14:00] =D [14:00] i don't remeber but nayhow i liked it so then i slowly migrated everything from windwos xp to slackware [14:00] Reticenti: dinosaurs .. nah .. that was for the advanced and posh people. :P [14:00] i couldnt get my internet working on 10.2, so i gave up on it [14:00] lol [14:01] fire|bird: ping. Just installed xfce4-power-manager 0.8.4.1. Works fine on slackware64 here. [14:01] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.211.151) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Win2000 holds a special place in my heart as the first OS I had that wasn't outrageously poor. [14:01] Reticenti: I'm not that old ... but running RedHat 4.2 "Biltmore" was a long time ago [14:02] yeah [14:02] what's the command to open a cd drive in terminal? [14:02] eject? [14:02] BP{k}, does it do anything nice? I've had 0.8.3.1 for awhile now and didn't notice anything fancy :) [14:03] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.60) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:03] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Nigromante: thanks [14:04] yrw [14:05] did anyone of you use install UMFPACK? [14:05] Nigromante: wife is using the computer, so i sshed into it, and remotely opend the cd drive :P [14:06] Action: Nigromante thanks technology for advancing so much from 1996 console based Slackware installation to current one :-) [14:07] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-129-243.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[14:09] Urchlay: brilliant! now if only I could get the cd drive to type in my LUKS passphrase [14:10] BP{k}: Yeah, that's what it does here too. [14:11] jar_corefile: for that, you have to train a monkey [14:11] BP{k}: It's sure odd. [14:12] Urchlay: might be easier (and more secure) than asking my wife to do it :) [14:12] Urchlay: just train a user [14:13] user, monkey, not really that much difference these days [14:14] soptecpe (n=alex@187.146.80.193) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:14] Urchlay: lol [14:14] BP{k}: I tried logging in as root too, and still the same, xfpm doesn't show up/work. [14:15] (##slackware) Channel ban on help!*@* expired. [14:15] ##slackware: mode change '-b help!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:15] However, I'm getting the notifications now when I connect and disconnect the ac adapter [14:15] Urchlay: but i'm running slackware, so it won't crash :P [14:15] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:18] paissad (n=paissad-@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:18] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-87-91.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:19] paissad (n=paissad-@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:20] paissad (n=paissad-@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:20] gods dammit. 10 years ago, if you had a cel phone, when you look at the screen, there's your phone number [14:20] brand new phone I just got yesterday doesn't seem to have a way to display its own $@#%^!#& number [14:20] idiots have taken over the world [14:21] Urchlay: lol yeah happened with my dad's phone [14:21] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:21] Urchlay: we just called someone's phone so we could see the # on that phone [14:21] caller id [14:21] fire|bird, what about removing the brightness panel thing all-together ? [14:22] nobody I might want to call and ask, is awake and/or not at work right now... grrr. [14:22] paissad (n=paissad-@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:22] paissad (n=paissad-@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:22] how is weather in Atlanta right now? [14:22] thrice`: tried that, no dice. [14:23] getting to be winter, or what passes for winter here [14:23] ah ok [14:23] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: "out" [14:24] it was pretty cold at 3 or 4 AM last night, I can finally wear a trenchcoat without getting strange looks [14:24] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:24] (or anyway, not as many strange looks as I get wearing it in the summer) [14:24] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.211.151) left irc: Connection timed out [14:25] juan--d-_-b (i=1000@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:25] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:25] you can always to not look strange if you wear shorts with it (in summer) [14:25] farchanjo_ (n=Brazil@189-92-158-66.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:26] fjji (n=ojof@92.84.1.195) left irc: "Leaving" [14:26] this coat's long enough, you wouldn't notice they were shorts [14:26] that's the point [14:26] (well, you'd be able to see my ankles maybe, it doesn't drag on the ground) [14:26] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-170-210.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:26] I'd be dead from heatstroke within 5 minutes though [14:26] farchanjo_ (n=Brazil@189-92-158-66.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:27] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-158-66.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:27] not if you also wear an Slac [14:27] kware T-Shirt [14:27] and exhibit it before young girls :-P [14:28] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Urchlay: the number is usually in settings> phone info [14:30] yeah, only to get to "settings" you have to go "main menu" then guess which of the 5 or 6 "settings" it's supposed to be (turns out it's "phone settings", not "tools & settings") [14:30] fire|bird: have you checked if running xfce4-power-manager --no daemon ... shows anything useful? [14:31] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [14:31] BP{k}: yes, that's what Ali had me do after re-compiling to enable full debugging. [14:31] fire|bird, it's 64-bit? [14:31] this thing has a few UI WTFs. When you save a contact, you get a red "contact saved" box that (to me anyway) looks like an error message (red = bad, it should be green) [14:31] thrice`: yes. [14:31] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.1.195) joined ##slackware. [14:32] and using the slackbuild from -current, with just $VERSION and installing libnotify? [14:32] the first menu item under the main menu is "media center"... it ought to be something actually useful, since it always starts out highlighted [14:33] thrice`: I installed libnotify from SBo, and the slackbuild from 64-13.0 .. and apart from the brightness plugin .. powermanager seems to run and work. [14:33] BP{k}, yep, me too, and those are also all I had to do [14:33] I mean, do people really watch lots of video on the 1 inch screen? so often that it makes sense to make "media center" the default menu option, instead of something, you know, phone-related? [14:34] curious if fire|bird did anything differently [14:34] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] thrice`: I used slack64 13.0's slackbuild for power manager, and got libnotify from SBo. [14:34] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:34] Nick change: Quiznos -> PurpleSmurf [14:34] Urchlay: depending on the carrier, they're probably just trying to lead you into paying for downloads from their media "store" [14:34] changing the version in the slackbuild. [14:35] hm, ok - nothing strange there [14:35] jar_corefile: yes, I know. Which is lame. It's a tool, I need it to be useful, that's all [14:35] I'm already paying them for the service [14:35] hi , why slapt-get --install kchmviewer does not work, although the search shows there is such package at the mirror ? [14:36] Urchlay: indeed. most people think I'm crazy for explicitly turning off SMS, but with vzw you pay for incoming as well, and all I need is a phone [14:36] paul424, sorry, slapt-get is a nono here [14:36] it'd be like buying a set of wrenches to work on my car, and they're covered in budweiser and coca-cola logos (only worse, cause the ad-crap actually interferes with normal use of the phone, instead of just making it look stupid) [14:37] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [14:37] hey turds [14:37] i'm on my sexy SSD laptop [14:37] Linux blackbriar 2.6.29.6 #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 11:58:18 CDT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [14:37] jeev_: be careful that your fat ass doesnt break it [14:37] actually, hm, how's that work? If someone sends me a SMS message, do I instantly get charged for it, or can I delete it without reading it and avoid paying? [14:37] Urchlay: buying wrenches and paying per nut/bolt ... a true scam [14:37] straterra, your mom left already [14:38] Urchlay, you hvae to have them disable sms so you dont get charged [14:38] tey dont care if you read it o r not [14:38] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:38] You don't have enough welfare checks to afford my mom [14:38] Sorry [14:38] Urchlay: on vzw at least, you pay whether you read it or not ... my aunt learned that the hard way [14:38] 2.6.29? such a noob, jeev_ [14:38] figures [14:38] thrice`, haha not again [14:38] running ubuntu probably? [14:38] i just installed this, ihad to set discrete graphics to get onto x [14:38] Nick change: PurpleSmurf -> ElmerJFudd [14:38] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [14:38] jeev!! [14:39] and yah, this thing's verizon. I only got this particular phone because it was included in the package, and I'd have had to pay full price to get a different one [14:39] anyway.. how come the text or bootup graphics are terrible [14:39] because your vga line in lilo.conf is wrong [14:39] (and they didn't have any that looked worth paying extra for, either) [14:39] tuzz looks gay [14:39] he is [14:39] must've got it from you [14:39] ...you insensitive clod! [14:39] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-4-106.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:39] no, gayer [14:40] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:41] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) joined ##slackware. [14:41] wonderful [14:41] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) left irc: Client Quit [14:41] Nick change: ElmerJFudd -> DonQuixote [14:42] jeev_, nice, though; which size SSD? [14:42] 64 gig [14:42] it's not the size of your ssd but the motion in the ocean [14:43] mm, not true; it's about size :( [14:43] ermenegildo_ (n=ermenegi@host78-230-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:43] hello [14:43] this laptop sat under my bed for maybe 6 months [14:43] ladies might have said that just to make you feel better :) [14:43] hi ermenegildo_ [14:43] hi nigromante [14:43] jeev_, nice. good thing your bed doesn't see much action, or it may have been damaged [14:43] are you italian [14:43] no [14:43] ? [14:44] that's right thrice` [14:44] considering i've had a girlfriend longer than you've known how to handle your penis [14:44] ok i see live distro slax [14:44] i can't bring any girl hom eother than ine [14:44] mine [14:44] and the internet is configured [14:44] but firefox don't go [14:45] what i can ? [14:45] ermenegildo_: do other network applications work/ [14:46] slackware doesn't have a live cd, you're in the wrong place [14:46] slax mancha [14:46] slackware doesn't have a live cd, you're in the wrong place [14:46] ermenegildo_, this channel is for slackware [14:46] ermenegildo_: slax is just based on slackware ... its not an official slackware live cd [14:47] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] capiche? [14:47] ok Bye [14:47] ermenegildo_ (n=ermenegi@host78-230-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [14:48] i need to add more ram to this bad boy [14:50] mancha: haven't been around here long, is slax a dirty word in this channel? [14:52] thrice`, i have windows 7 on the other partition [14:52] eddief (n=eddie@pool-68-161-209-154.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:53] windows7 can fit on 64 gig? [14:53] Yeah [14:53] So can Vista [14:53] seems like dual-booting would be tight [14:53] jar_corefile: slax is only vaguely based on slackware. We have no clue what they have changed or care t find out. Slax should support their own users .. that's not our task, we just support slackware here. :) [14:54] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-136-178.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:54] thrice`: realistically..it likely is [14:54] .. and it get's rather tiresome to support $DERRATIVE_of_the_month because upstreams aren't doing so. :) [14:54] i gave each one 20 gigs [14:54] vvor (n=vvor@bzq-82-81-147-223.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] jar_corefile not dirty but it's similar to someone coming in here asking for ubuntu-specific help [14:54] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:54] BP{k}: fair enough, just wondering [14:54] we only support bluewhite64 [14:54] Action: BP{k} slaps thrice` [14:54] how do i disable this stupid akondai shit [14:55] I think the only thing akonadi does is take CPU, and eventually die [14:55] good ssd's are still in the thousands if you go above 32gb (too bad it's still a monopoly) [14:55] thrice`: you're forgetting the errors it throws on KDE login [14:55] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-48-90.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] this ssd has locked up once [14:56] or the system has, i dunno if it was the ssd [14:56] but was during windows xp boot a while back [14:56] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:56] which FS are you using? [14:56] windows thrashes a lot...i wonder if they've improved or if they're essentially ssd-killers [14:56] the errors are gay during login [14:56] thrice`, me ? [14:56] yeah, for the ssd [14:56] ext4 [14:57] mancha: its been improved since XP [14:57] XP liked to swap..even with lots of free memory [14:57] Vista and 7 have a much smarter memory management model [14:57] strat, that's good to hear. did they customize xp for the asus's then? the little eeepc deals that were ssd-based? [14:58] what was that shit called where i could send an image to imagebin or something [14:58] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [14:58] mancha: I doubt it. They likely just stuck with XP's flaws [14:58] jeev_, firefox [14:58] i'll run windows ME if that's what's required to play modern warfare 2 [14:58] bite my dck thrice` [14:58] thrice`: ^5 [14:58] Dude [14:58] He wants you to bite his dck [14:58] yeah, he asks in PM quite a bit [14:59] what's your point [14:59] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-58-152-92.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:59] kde4 might have some widget to do imagebin stuff, though [14:59] The fact that jeev wants to play MW2 is almost enough to make me never purchase it so I never have to play with him on my team [14:59] i forgot i saw it in someone's screenshot [14:59] bite his doom construction kit? [15:00] straterra, i'll go as far as saying i'm the greatest player of all time in call of duty 4 in the broadcast map [15:00] uhm..I doubt that [15:00] i dont tube, i dont shoot the wall. JUST shock and awe [15:00] aweful, maybe [15:00] ha ha [15:00] i'll run into a room full of 8 people and survive. [15:00] shockingly so [15:00] unixfool (n=ron@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:00] W|GGL|T (n=ron@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:00] Yeah..its called a spawn point [15:00] Congrats! [15:01] yea right [15:01] multiplayer games might be fun, if they weren't filled with gamers... [15:01] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [15:01] look, whatever bugs and cheats there are in tha tgame, i'm against. [15:01] i'm the greatest lone wolf on earth [15:01] Shooting through walls isn't a bug or cheat [15:01] it is when you shoot through 8 different walls and the projectile is still going straight [15:02] Wiren (i=Wiren@mar44-3-82-235-66-69.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Rounds don't go through 8 walls in CoD4 [15:02] go play broadcast [15:02] 2-3 max [15:02] you'll see rounds go from outside to the other end of the server room [15:02] All I play is broadcast. Hardcore 24/7 [15:02] what server [15:02] ps3 or pc [15:02] Or xbox [15:02] I play on PC [15:02] whatever [15:02] anything other than pc is queer [15:02] what server, i played the RR server a lot [15:03] some of the admins watch me for 30 minutes at a time trying to see if i hack. [15:03] I play in the RR one a fair bit [15:03] what's your nick [15:03] or name in it [15:03] Straterra [15:03] never seen you, mine is naptime [15:03] i have screenshots somewhere let me see [15:03] i've gotta upload them, sec [15:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [15:04] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[15:13] If I have folder originally owned and created by root and want to copy for other users, how do I change permissions for the folder and all it's children entries? [15:14] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) joined ##slackware. [15:15] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) joined ##slackware. [15:15] rogersman: chown -R user:group folder [15:16] jar_corefile: nice one, thanks [15:16] Guest40438 (n=mike@203.88.90.202) joined ##slackware. [15:17] Hi, im using Slackware64 13.0 and having: "/bin/bash 'file' permission denied" while i try to execute form normal user with "su -c './file'; could anyone point me in the right direction to solve this problem? [15:17] and call them directories! [15:17] fatherx, is it +x ? [15:17] fatherx it is not +x ? [15:18] try su -c 'sh ./file' [15:18] ups, sorry, i forgot to chmod to +x [15:18] thank you very much [15:18] sure :) [15:19] always wondered why linux never developed the ability to give a message like "have you set file to be executable?" or something like that [15:19] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [15:20] rogersman: it has nothing to do with linux [15:20] wouldn't ls -l resolve that problem? [15:20] good afternoon btw [15:20] linux isnt jeopardy [15:20] it does tell you that (that's what "permission denied" means) [15:20] linux aims to confuse the user [15:21] linux aint unix [15:21] I don't think that it should try to correct permissions for you [15:21] Action: jg71 steps back into the shadows ;) [15:21] for a noobie tho, the message "permission denied" usually leads them to mess about with sudo for ages... [15:21] most of the UI doesn't try to accommodate for user errors, afaik [15:22] at the very least, a "permission denied" message should cause you to check the permissions of said file [15:22] it would only add to the confusion of a noob [15:22] vvor (n=vvor@bzq-82-81-147-223.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:22] i agree [15:22] and doing an ls -l would show that even though the permissions were not allowed for execution on the file [15:22] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-109.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "I regret Nothing..." [15:22] and doing an ls -l would show that the permissions were not allowed for execution on the file [15:23] forgot to enable my proper english option [15:23] :-p [15:23] pretend you had no clue what the exec. "permission" was, though [15:23] to the google? [15:23] :-p [15:23] I think your overestimating the abilities of those new to *nix [15:23] thrice`: when I had no clue about stuff like that, I borrowed a book about UNIX from someone, and read it [15:23] "dad, i have no idea what 'cookie jar' means but my hand likes it in there." [15:23] Urchlay, lol [15:23] sorry, i should say knowledge rather than abilities ;-) [15:24] google is also handy for learning things [15:24] omg mom, didn't you read UNIX ??? obviously the file needs executive permissions to run [15:24] lol [15:25] such concepts are foreign to those trying to emigrate from windows, and the adoption of linux would only increase should error messages be made somewhat more verbose IMHO [15:25] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-109.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [15:25] most intro to *nix books/sites usually cover file permissions early on [15:25] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:25] having to mess with permissions at all are pretty boring for desktop users [15:25] well, consider that setting permissions on Windows is neither a trivial thing for "mom" [15:25] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-129-243.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] Action: rogersman is feverishly trying to convert all in my family to linux [15:26] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [15:26] rogersman i think you are misunderstanding something very fundamental here...linux is not out to try and convert the MSFT userbase. it stands on its own merits and its converts do so willingly [15:26] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-129-243.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:26] mancha: +1 [15:26] rogersman: it would take a redesign of the kernel and all apps. Consider: the kernel returns -EPERM (which is some number that means "permission denied") under various different circumstances (trying to exec a non-executable file, trying to ls a non-readable dir, trying to open a non-readable file) [15:27] mancha: would u not rather see an insurgence in the linux user base? [15:27] from a security perspective, is it ever useful to have a binary readable but not executable? [15:27] rogersman i am ambivalent...actually, i have only seen llimnux get dumbed down with exponentialgrowth of users [15:27] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:27] rogersman: for the error messages to be more specific, the kernel would have to return 3 separate error numbers for those 3 cases [15:27] and that doesn't cover all the possible reasons for "permission denied" even [15:28] remind the user about +x can be a feature of the shell/ui, not the kernel [15:28] i use it because i like it, i am not overly concerned with its market share vis-a-vis windows [15:28] (trying to "ifconfig eth0 down" as a non-root user results in the same error code, for instance) [15:28] and i certainly don't want to see linux dumbed down with redundant messages just to satisfy the noobie market [15:28] yes, it has a steep learning curve at first, deal with itr [15:28] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-158-66.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:28] Nick change: Guest40438 -> miked [15:28] half assed releases like ubuntu 8.10 dont help either... [15:29] mancha: increase in usage= increase in hobbie developers ... how can that be a bad thing? [15:29] ubuntu isn't the only end-user desktop-oriented distro out there [15:29] and that I say relatively because I use Slack on my desktop as well [15:29] ubuntu did a great job though [15:30] rogersman it is bad if you need to sacrifice its tight formula which we all like [15:30] rogersman: what type of users are being added though? if the don't contribute back, its not a real increase in developers [15:30] poofo (n=poof@195.226.161.149) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:30] *they [15:30] you are telling me that in order to get this added base we have to turn it into a monkey OS wth all kinds of hand-holding. i disagree [15:31] jar_corefile: more users = attractive platform for developers [15:31] linux is doing fine as it is....linus isn't scared. meanwhile msft sends legions of evangelizers to best buy with powerpoints filled with lies [15:32] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [15:33] the people who need to be told that they need +x to execute arent really going to be the ones developing the kernel or making valuable apps [15:33] mancha: While I do think that linux is doing fine, I also think that linux needs more support from big/commercial hardware manufacturers and software developers. [15:33] that's not happening because msft exerts coercion on HW makers [15:33] such support will only come if the users-base was big/attractive enough [15:34] +1 [15:34] mako-sama: I think the jesus phone shows that developers go where the money is ... I don't think there will be enough money to be made on linux support anytime soon [15:34] jar_corefile: if there are users, there is money [15:35] we just have to disagree then. i use linux because i like the OS (as it is). i do not want it to morph into somethign i don't like so that it attracts people who like other qualities in an OS [15:35] if it does do that then i'll move on [15:35] even if *nix developed to such a stage as to be considered a "monkey OS", its still linux with all things customisable...including annoying hand-holding features which are unremovable in windows [15:35] and just to be clear, I'm not talking about free software developers. we want the big commercial developers to jump in too [15:35] mancha: good point [15:35] mancha: agreed [15:35] mancha: ++ [15:35] mxmx (n=mmxmx@189.160.88.193) joined ##slackware. [15:36] mancha: believe me, I like linux as it is and I don't think it need to be changed [15:36] especially not the CLI [15:36] mako-sama: but to get to a size that attracts developers, how much is going to have to be sacrificed? [15:36] I couldn't care less about what they do in the GUI though. that's where they should do all the magic they want to do [15:37] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@h69-129-27-145.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:37] jar_corefile: nothing much at all. you can still use OSX as a non-noob-friendly OS if you choose to not use apple's default UI [15:38] he left [15:38] I think kde is one the right track with trying to make as many apps and settings guified...giving noobs the chance to dive right in whilst simultaneously allowing experts to use command line if so desired...I dont see any contradiction between simplifiying an OS' GUI and maintaining typical linux power [15:38] KDE is doing fine, gnome is doing fine. [15:39] *nix has the distinct advantage of being able to be all things to all people (theoretically, at least) [15:40] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:42] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [15:42] fatherx just quit probably never having imagined his "chmod +x" question would cause such a ruckus [15:43] rlood (n=rlood@92.45.23.236) joined ##slackware. [15:45] mancha: hehe sorry to be stirring up shit ;-) [15:48] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "lalala caindo fora!" [15:48] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:48] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:55] EKayFive (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-148-188.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:55] on another note, does anyone have any experience with usb sound cards? are they well supported in linux? [15:56] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [15:57] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [15:57] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:58] jeev3 (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] rogersman: I dunno about support for specific models, but I've gotten two of them to work (the only 2 I ever tried) [15:59] Nick change: jeev3 -> jeev_ [15:59] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-13.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:59] Urchlay: out the box? [16:00] one was a cheap $10 thing from microcenter, the other was a pro audio outboard mixer (which worked well enough with audacity, recorded a couple guitar tracks + vocals OK) [16:01] its a USB shaped future :-) [16:02] as evidenced by "surrogates" lol [16:02] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.125) joined ##slackware. [16:02] on recent versions of slackware, yes, out of the box (though the pro audio thing was for a friend who ran ubuntu... would have worked on slack as well) [16:03] okay, good stuff, cheers [16:03] USB kinda pisses me off sometimes. Mostly because old-style serial/parallel ports were so easy for a hobbyist to interface to (you didn't need firmware or anything, just wires and logic ICs and such) [16:03] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:04] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [16:04] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:05] want to hook up the joystick from your Atari 2600 to your PC? With a parallel port you're just making a wiring adaptor, with USB you've got to program a CPLD or something, the cost of a hobbyist project (in materials, time, and knowledge required) is way higher [16:05] Urchlay: never mind mate, I've got a BBC Master lying around somewhere if you want it! [16:05] Action: chee :3 [16:06] hmmm, BBC Master = 8-bit computer? I'd want it, except shipping would probably be more than I could afford (am in the US) [16:07] hiptobecubic, ty very much ^^. I got her installed, but cannot figure out where I am meant to put the stepfiles (0w0)y [16:07] chee, The songs go in the ./Songs folder. [16:07] probably worth a fortune now tho....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro [16:07] chee, there should be some "instructions.txt" or something int here [16:08] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:09] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [16:09] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] rogersman: I remember wanting one of those just because Tom Baker (Dr. Who) did a commercial for them :) [16:10] hello [16:10] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [16:10] juan--d-_-b (i=1000@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:11] It is possible for the sudo to have the root password screewed up ? [16:11] Urchlay: I remember having to fiddle the "dip switches" on my dot-matrix just to print graphics from my BASIC programs...ahh the good old days *NOT* [16:11] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.134.191) left irc: "+-||\-" [16:11] actually I kinda miss those days [16:12] so I still have some of my old Atari stuff, and still write code for it [16:12] might the sudo password by diffrent than roots ? [16:12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_800 <--- those [16:12] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-163-81.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] paul424: enter you current user password when prompted [16:12] paul424, yes ofc [16:12] Urchlay: damn, old school [16:13] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host86-151-40-23.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Nick change: tux_boy -> geeky_fox [16:16] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [16:16] i get nostalgic about 80's *TV shows*, but thats about it :-p [16:16] rogersman: for about $10 in parts, you can build an interface for that old computer that'll connect to an RS232 port on a modern PC... if only modern PCs had RS232 ports any more [16:17] (and no, those USB->RS232 adaptors don't emulate the timing of a real RS232 port well enough to use for this application) [16:18] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Success [16:19] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [16:19] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:20] they dont? mine all do have rs232 ports [16:20] lot of them don't [16:20] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] most laptops don't, and they're getting hard to find on desktop motherboards [16:20] well, must be the other side of the planet then [16:21] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-67-6.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] why sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=0 gives my command not found : sysctl ? [16:22] Nick change: geeky_fox -> freefox [16:22] paul424: either put /sbin in your PATH, or else run "sudo /sbin/sysctl ...." [16:24] aha :) thanks [16:24] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [16:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-151-40-17.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:25] Wouldn't an offline tech support chat bot be brilliant for linux? wondering if such a thing is in development... 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[16:29] Nick change: freefox -> free_fox [16:31] is html 5 video supposed to work out of the box here on 13.0 64 [16:31] ah found a demo that works but not youtube.com/html5 [16:32] I think youtube still transmits through flash, so you need flash-plugin installed [16:32] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:32] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:32] oh [16:33] (I think) [16:33] jeev_: I have tested an company-internal html5 demo page with Ogg video, plays out of the box in firefox (slack64) [16:34] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:35] i'm surprisingly happy with using this laptop more than the desktop i have here, Q9300 [16:35] alienBOB, i did some other html 5 tests it worked out of the box on slack64too [16:36] alienBOB, just wanted to say well done on ur usb-install scripts...brilliant stuff mate...i can now combine it with slackware update script to keep it current :-D [16:36] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:36] http://9elements.com/io/projects/html5/canvas/ [16:37] tooly (n=tooly@e178168139.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [16:37] rogersman: good! [16:38] jeev_: we are going to use the html5 video tags to serve .wmv to Internet Explorers and Ogg video to good browsers [16:39] hi [16:39] Nick change: DonQuixote -> Quiznos [16:39] hi guys [16:39] Quiznos: is that really you ? [16:40] hmmmm [16:40] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:40] bitchx is horribly outdated [16:40] deco hihi [16:40] well yeah [16:40] Quiznos: \o/ [16:40] jg71: that might be why Pat dropped it from slackware [16:40] is the canvas supposed to work in Opera? [16:40] deco how are you? [16:40] Quiznos: ok, messing with dwm , and you ? [16:40] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-163-81.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:40] jeev_ (n=jeev@netblock-75-79-21-233.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] deco i'm ok; kline revoked [16:41] nooper: the html5 stuff, video, etc.? No, they don't have support for that. [16:41] Quiznos: yeah \o/ missed ya [16:41] nick highlite missing [16:41] ty [16:41] Action: chee jealous [16:41] same to y'all. [16:41] most of y'all :) [16:41] :P [16:41] Right you are [16:42] alienBOB, and quicktime files to Safari, i think [16:43] jg71 i'm a stalwarted bx user. never had a prob in all "these" years. [16:43] On a safari you should see goatse I believe [16:43] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.164.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:43] whatever floats your boat, Quiznos [16:43] i'm going to go and try and pester my dad into locating a powersupply for me, for this muverboard [16:43] yep [16:44] jg71 it's tiled (don quixote :) [16:44] tilted [16:44] im configuring a dhcp server with dhcpd [16:44] jIxxie (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:44] Anyone remember more details about on of those funny exam answers images where the guy was able to skip around actually answering the question because the teacher made a grammatical error in his question? [16:44] strankan (n=strankan@c-decd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "leaving" [16:44] acidtripper, and? [16:44] trying to find the damn :) [16:44] i would like to know what subnet is? [16:45] Wescotte where's Hort? [16:45] dns i have to put my isp dns? [16:45] are you kidding? :) [16:45] domain-name-server [16:45] :P [16:45] acidtripper: a bit over your head perhaps? [16:45] Quiznos: hmm maybe.. what's that? [16:45] Read some documentation instead of asking the beginner questions here [16:46] ahah, i'm reading man page [16:46] Wescotte Wescotte and hort were perverters of scripture :) [16:46] Well that is not enough if you do not know what a subnet is [16:46] Quiznos: ya lost me :) [16:46] lol [16:46] ok [16:46] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] couse i confuse my wifi router ip, which is 192.168.1.100 [16:48] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-56-234.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:48] thats the subnet i must use? [16:48] or 192.168.1.0 [16:48] Quiznos: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cCmvObyemK4/R0J3-zKicTI/AAAAAAAAAFI/QvrDZ_0CSLw/s400/Funny_Student_Desperate_ExamTime_26.jpg <-- something like this but where he get full credit... [16:48] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-56-198.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:49] Wescotte i'm onc console, can i get a tinyurl? [16:49] Seems the online package browser bit the dust at some point. [16:49] Wescotte: you have to be pretty daft not to get that one! [16:49] Quiznos: http://tinyurl.com/ygvvys8 [16:49] ty [16:50] rogersman: it's a similar type of thing where when you read the question it's actually phrased incorrectly.. However the teacher awards full points for the dodging of the question.. [16:52] I think it was a mixup using effect and affect in the question... [16:52] hmm, i remember getting a question in high school about a "kipper" that travels along a lake and how fast its going...about half the class said its not moving at all cos a kipper is a smoked mackarel...and hence dead :-p [16:53] lol [16:53] I dont think any of them got full points tho! [16:53] it can float on the tide hence it is moving. [16:53] what's the speed of tide? [16:53] no tide in a lake! [16:53] ok then [16:53] lol [16:53] *generally* [16:53] look it up in the speeding ticket [16:53] wake flows [16:53] gapan (n=gapan@adsl54-38.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving." [16:54] heh damnit google is failing me :) [16:54] but lakes DO move [16:54] in case of quakes [16:54] not only [16:54] wind [16:54] boats [16:54] ... birds? [16:54] cmon ;) [16:54] sure [16:55] wakes [16:55] the earth...the solar system...the galaxy...aaaaahhh! [16:55] lol [16:55] that's like the old "if a plane crashes on the border between the US and Canada, where do they bury the survivors?" inanity [16:55] rogersman try this:: there are no straight lines in Space [16:55] "it crashed between the border" is epic by itself [16:55] juan--d-_-b (i=1000@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [16:55] Quiznos: for everyone sanity .. do you think you can at least stop hitting enter after every single word? [16:55] there are no straight lines anywhere [16:55] Urchlay lol; i've heard that but each would give the other jurisdiction depending on home of plane [16:56] BP{k} i can try but no promises :) [16:56] Quiznos: the correct answer is: you don't bury the survivors, they're *survivors*! [16:56] lol [16:56] selective reading. [16:56] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:56] it's all dead [16:56] yeah, my backlog just tripled [16:56] BP{k}: apparently, he cannot. [16:56] you're officially dumber than jeev_ [16:56] ty tyvm [16:56] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [16:57] so you DO miss me!!! [16:57] you remember!!! [16:57] i'm so honored. [16:57] where's landen? [16:58] dead [16:58] aww [16:58] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] unixfool (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:00] pgeek|| (n=anon@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] I guess the lack of noise was nice while it lasted. [17:00] i dint do it [17:00] i'm not repsonsible [17:01] ola rworkman [17:01] refire!!! [17:01] i'm bok [17:01] fire|bird: ola [17:02] fire|bird, snoop snoop [17:02] hey chee [17:03] fire|bird no high ferme? [17:03] nope [17:03] aww [17:04] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Action: chee fends off snakes with his trombone [17:05] how are you today, f|b? [17:05] chee: great, thanks. Just working to figure out why xfce power manager isn't working for me. :/ [17:05] how about you? [17:06] WRT UPS, is there's a way to test it before buying a used model without connecting to computer? [17:06] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [17:06] thrice`, you shouldn't be talking about dumb [17:07] jeev_ they said i was dumber than you; is that possible? :) [17:07] it's possible for everyone in the world [17:07] ah [17:07] it's true [17:07] i'd rather be a better troll than you [17:08] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [17:08] i'm the smartest guy west of the mississippi [17:08] but i'm not west of it, nor east [17:09] what are you? alien ? [17:09] florida [17:09] rlood (n=rlood@92.45.23.236) left irc: [17:09] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:09] i see [17:09] :> [17:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:14] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [17:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [17:15] FC Bayern Munich!!!!!\o/ [17:15] what do you guys use for post it notes or some shit [17:15] on slacktizzle [17:15] nvision (n=nvision@g225051018.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:16] little pieces of paper with glue strips on them, plus a sharpie marker [17:16] stern des sudens!!! \o/ [17:16] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.240) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Knotes i guess [17:18] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:18] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-36-27.A204.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:18] gut song , stern des sudens \o\ [17:18] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.201.157) joined ##slackware. [17:19] . [17:20] ls [17:20] grrr sorry [17:21] never found digital post it notes of any use, just bogs down the system that little bit more, the old pen and paper does me fine. [17:22] cool, yea i dont use them anyway [17:22] i usually open apps for a sec then close them with lack of interest [17:22] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [17:23] although klipper (clipboard tool) is my new best friend. [17:23] slackie (n=x@87.196.4.194) joined ##slackware. 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[17:31] so no one agree with my idea for setting a region variable in sbopkg and making slackbuilds.org allow a list of mirrors from which sbopkg can pick the closest? or something that may make downloads faster. took 3 hrs for me to download OOo using sbopkg the other day. [17:32] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.34) joined ##slackware. [17:32] jonsmith1982, if you want geolocation logic in sbopkg, do it your damn self... it's complicated and doesn't always work [17:32] it's impossible, slackbuilds.org lists only 1 DOWNLOAD location [17:32] gnubien (n=e@231.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:33] to which sbopkg simply sources the .info file, and uses wget on that DOWNLOAD variable [17:33] I'd be willing but it would be useless without slackbuilds.org complying [17:33] jonsmith1982, bullshit... if you can't do it, just admit it [17:33] jonsmith1982, what exactly are you talking about mirroring? [17:33] you think slackbuilds.org should list 100 different download locations in its .info file? [17:33] jonsmith1982, all software? [17:33] just after a better way thats all. [17:33] I think you are mistaking, that slackbuilds.org does NOT have any source tarballs [17:34] remember guys, only one cross per noob [17:34] jonsmith1982, the "better way" is to edit the info file to choose the closest mirror if you so choose. Even sbopkg has a way to do it before you build the package [17:35] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:37] LinkLonk (n=LinkLonk@ip-67-198-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:39] re hip!!! [17:39] thrice`, I do. [17:40] firedix (n=firedix@host227.200-117-148.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [17:40] jonsmith1982: the admins of slackbuilds.org will not change their ways to satisfy the needs of an external tool [17:41] There you go. From the paard's mouth. [17:41] i'm good, fire|bird. i'm [17:41] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:42] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-129-243.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:43] thrice`, does sbopkg handle packages require more than one sourceball? [17:43] not sure :) I don't use it, myself [17:43] I'd hope so, since there are a couple which have multiple tarballs [17:44] bleh :P [17:44] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-129-243.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:45] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [17:45] hiptobecubic: dutch? [17:45] alienBOB, You're in the Netherlands aren't you? [17:46] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.121) joined ##slackware. [17:46] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [17:46] My question was first... [17:46] so, i thought of something ingenious [17:46] Reticenti: oh no [17:46] :P [17:46] =D [17:47] alienBOB, haha sure. ja! [17:47] anyone know how to set rtorrent to use one port ? [17:47] make my own email server, have a secret email address, and make it so that the body text of a email sent to it will be executed [17:48] Reticenti, good lord. [17:48] so i could email my server "startx" and it will startx jsut in time for me coming home [17:48] You want to automatically execute code in emails? [17:48] possibly [17:48] Reticenti, have you learned anything in the past 20 years? [17:48] :D [17:48] lol [17:48] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.158) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:48] or have it only execute commands that come from a certain email [17:48] Reticenti, it's called 'ssh' [17:49] hmmmm it wants a range but i have to use a specific port [17:49] deco, can you set the range to one port? [17:49] hiptobecubic: but with this way, i can do commands from my phone [17:49] hiptobecubic: not it creates an errror [17:49] Reticenti, and so can everyone else :D [17:49] hiptobecubic: not if i restrict commands only coming from my phones email [17:49] /s/not/no [17:50] (email via texting) [17:50] fire|bird, I forgot to ask earlier; you said the x-p-m dev was willing to install slackware to troubleshoot; what does he use, do you know? [17:50] it's so crazy it jsut might work [17:50] it would probably be a better idea to have the one command in mind preprogrammed and called with `at` or something? [17:50] thrice`: I'm not sure. [17:51] pgeek|| (n=anon@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:51] fire|bird, also, I tried the brightness applet, and it seems to work OK here :( no "device not found" errors [17:51] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-13.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:51] Reticenti, or maybe at worst, have an email address that launches that particular command no matter what the email says [17:51] hiptobecubic: yeah, i would probably want to limit the commands availible [17:51] startx@terribleRemoteSolutions.net or whatever [17:51] fire|bird, out of curiosity, does "lshal | grep battery" show your battery? [17:51] thrice`: Hmm, there has to be something not right somewhere, and it's not user, specific. [17:51] Umm, I'll check, sec. [17:52] hmm, that migh work too hiptobecubic [17:52] i didn't know about lshal :D [17:52] that's a good thing [17:52] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] thrice`: yup [17:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] nvision (n=nvision@g225051018.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [17:55] ok, sorry to keep pestering you :) I'm out of ideas again [17:55] hi hello can I install some packages with [17:55] !~~~~!!!!!! [17:55] skype has 64bit linclient now? [17:56] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:56] for ubuntu only ... apparently :) [17:56] thrice`: lol, no problem. If you have any more ideas, let me know. I'm puzzled. :P [17:56] kde 4.3.2 and 4.3.3, I mean can I mix them ? [17:56] mix 4.3.2 with 4.3.3? no [17:56] fire|bird, are you still trying to compile seamonkey? [17:57] Necos: No, with thrice`s help, it is built and installed now. [17:57] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [17:58] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:58] fire|bird, you use seamonkey? [17:58] hiptobecubic: Well, 2.0 is out, so I've been trying it out, yeah. [17:58] fire|bird, and? [17:58] fire|bird, do you just use the browser or the whole suite? [17:59] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] hiptobecubic: It's really nice. I find it to not be quite as bloated as FF, loads pages fast. It's suppose to be quite close to FF 3.5.4. [17:59] hiptobecubic: Well, beings 2.0 was just released, I've been trying out the whole suite. [18:00] fire|bird, is it really faster or just faster because you don't have plugins? [18:00] hiptobecubic: I pretty much have the same plugin setup in both. [18:01] alienBOB, It wouldn't be much of a change and could work in slackbuilds.org favour. like setting a regional variable on it's web interface. [18:01] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Client Quit [18:01] hiptobecubic: of course this is a ymmv thing, but here, seamonkey starts in 5 seconds, FF in 11 seconds. [18:02] So, it's not, instant type fast, but, noticeably faster at startup, and imo, a tad faster at loading pages too. [18:02] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] jonsmith1982, that would involve every package maintainer maintaining a list of mirrors for each slackbuild [18:02] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] jonsmith1982, the implementation would be enormous for what amounts to little, considering most software doesn't have worldwide mirroring anyway [18:02] juan--d-_-b (i=1000@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:02] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [18:02] optionall extra mirrors? [18:03] I don't think you understand how sbopk gworks [18:03] The closest to instant open I've found is chromium, with midori a close second. [18:03] jonsmith1982, for those that do, there is often an auto-select mirror feature, for the rest, it's as simple as editing your info file [18:03] optional, extra ..... [18:03] DOWNLOAD="http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/openoffice/stable/3.1.1/OOo_3.1.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US.tar.gz" [18:03] that is where sbopkg gets the tarball from [18:04] so, it seems like someone else had my crazy idea too http://codewar.net/cuts/ [18:04] Reticenti: congrats, you're not the only crazy one. :P [18:04] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-142-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "[BX] With a BitchX here and a BitchX there, here a BitchX there a BitchX everywhere a BitchX" [18:04] YES, he left. [18:05] then, theres ahhhnold [18:05] DonQuixote!!!! :( [18:05] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-142-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] wh? [18:06] Reticenti, pfff that phone says "Tillbaka" on it. Those are Suedes. You're still crazy. ;) [18:06] haha [18:06] You should update that stupid default bitchx part message Quiznos [18:06] LOL [18:06] Why are they so terrible? [18:06] he should ... lotsa things. [18:06] They are always terrible. [18:07] hiptobecubic: because they were thouht up by 13 year olds. [18:07] hiptobecubic: because the devs of bitchx aren't imaginative [18:07] any other guesses? [18:07] "BitchX: If you see this, the user is too freakin' stupid to update this message. Its like a Kick Me sign for idiots..." [18:07] Indeed [18:08] Use irssi ffs [18:08] dom!! [18:08] brb [18:08] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-142-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [18:08] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-142-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Dominian !! [18:08] hi [18:08] i'm bok [18:08] I see that [18:08] :) [18:08] im blinded by the bling [18:08] how could you miss it? [18:09] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [18:10] alienBOB: hahaha you think the quit message is funny.. try the ircname in /whois [18:10] Dominian, lol :D [18:10] mozart ;( [18:10] a .doc no less [18:12] hi all [18:12] is there a way to know local ip adresses connected into my home ? [18:12] paissad-hp: you mean remotely? [18:12] google for dyndns [18:13] Dominian, i know dyndns, but i don't mean that [18:13] well, can you form a more concise/detailed question? :) [18:14] paissad-hp, "w" ? [18:14] Dominian, i have 3 computers at home, i just want to know each ip adress of the computers ... just using a command from another computer with linux ..... without going to the configuration of the box [18:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] nmap 192.168.0.1/32 [18:15] statically assign the addresses and memorize the IPs? [18:15] assuming thats ur base address scheme [18:15] thrice`, i tried w , but that command just show me my computer, knowing that there are others computers connected the same network [18:15] all his base are blong to us..... thats why he came here asking [18:16] Dominian, i don't want to assign the adresses, i've already done that --> dns .. but how can i obtain the list of connected computers [18:16] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:17] i don't know how to be more clear :( [18:17] paissad-hp: CcSsNET gave you a good way of doing so [18:17] bye [18:17] g4tt0 (i=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [18:17] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:17] Dominian, yes [18:18] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-87-91.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:18] if i want to spit out what i'm downloading AS it's downloading and not after it's finished, what tool can i use? wget -O - waits until the file is done. It looks like curl does the same. netcat returns a 'bad messsage' error, presumably because i'm not sending whatever it is i need to initiate the transfer [18:18] curl [18:19] lol, how useful [18:19] hiptobecubic: what do you mean 'spit out' what you are downloading? [18:19] dump it to terminal [18:19] STDOUT [18:19] thrice`, DOWNLOAD_x86_64="", DOWNLOAD_europe= doesn't seem so difficult to me. [18:19] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-0-141.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] jonsmith1982, stfu already [18:20] jonsmith1982: shuddap already [18:20] jonsmith1982, do you maintain anything on slackbuilds.org ? [18:20] nope. [18:20] I for one don't plan to add 10 more variables to any of my scripts [18:20] jonsmith1982: disapproved [18:20] ok. [18:20] lol [18:21] you mean DOWNLOAD_X86_64_europe, first of all. And second, why do you even want this to happen? You can already pick your own mirror by just writing it in. SlackBuilds aren't designed to be click and drool anyway. [18:21] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] also, for someone like openoffice, there's a good chance they will have mirrored source tarballs. for smaller projects, I'd guess the chance is much smaller [18:21] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: "Leaving." [18:22] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-190.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [18:22] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-190.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] hiptobecubic, I used that as an example to show it's not just a single download link since there are download links for 64 bit also. [18:22] so get off your high horse. [18:22] ONLY for tarballs that are binary packaging [18:23] that reminds me [18:23] jonsmith1982, but that is essential to building the program, some binary repackage scripts need to know that [18:23] and have separate 32-bit and 64-bit tarballs; that's probably less than 5% of the sbo stuff [18:23] the nmap command doesn't return the result i was waiting for ! [18:23] http://pastebin.fr/5912 [18:23] it has nothing to do with location, it has to do with the actual build. again, you can change the location for DOWNLOAD or DOWNLOAD-x86_64 at will [18:24] wollw, curl doesn't print out the download in realtime does it? It buffers it or whatever it's doing and then prints it out when the file is done. At least that what i'm seeing. [18:25] hmm [18:25] you're right [18:25] i would expect netcat to do it, but i know too little to make it work it seems [18:25] why not wget -O and use tail? [18:25] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:26] actually, it seems curl is outputting while downloading for me [18:26] Necos, if tail can follow it, then it would be printing to screen without the pipe there, no? [18:27] just tried it on a ~750MB file [18:27] wollw, a webpage or an 'octet-stream' ? [18:27] and it started outputting right away [18:27] wollw, well jeepers. [18:27] wollw, no flags or anything to curl? [18:27] hiptobecubic, it _CAN_ follow the file, duh... wget is writing directly to disk [18:27] just "curl " [18:28] "curl http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/archives/chromium.r30027.tgz" to be exact [18:28] Necos, i thought you meant something like wget url | tail -f ... [18:28] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:28] wollw, ok you win, it's working. [18:28] \o/ [18:29] wget -O | tail -f is essentially what curl's doing anywho (just in one shot) [18:30] or, [18:30] less enter Quiznos [18:30] just wget -O [18:30] wget | tee /dev/tty12 [18:30] other way around, isn't curl a dependency for wget? [18:30] nop [18:30] the two are independent [18:30] ah [18:31] ugh, that's annoying. sox says it's compiled without mp3 support, but ldd /usr/bin/sox shows it's linked to libmad.so.0 [18:31] maybe it wants lame? [18:31] Urchlay: firgured your phone number yet ? :P [18:31] yar [18:32] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [18:33] this must have been what i was thinking about: http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2007/10/27/wget-going-libcurl/ [18:33] hrr, sox needs both lame and mad for mp3 support. And slackware only ships with mad, not lame [18:35] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:36] Urchlay: that's lame [18:37] which? that sox needs lame, or that slack doesn't have lame? [18:37] if you dont listen to classical music, you cna't use slackware [18:37] should be a new rule [18:37] or the fact that I'm too lame to type LAME properly in uppercase... [18:37] screw the new rule, it should be a LAW [18:37] What's lame is that sox doesn't support OSS on Slackware. [18:37] anyone try building sox on freebsd? it needs 47,000,000 dependencies [18:38] through ports [18:38] adamk_: really? the one I just compiled from Pat's slackbuild said "oss........................yes" [18:38] hahaha [18:38] jeev: is traditional music close enough? [18:38] what the hell is traditional music [18:38] jeev, Isn't that what 'make config' is for? Unless the maintainer of that port is stupid, most of those dependencies should be optional. [18:39] adamk, pointles [18:39] it goes wild [18:39] http://www.thesession.org/ [18:39] i was exaggerating on the number but it's lots [18:39] Urchlay, I have OSSv4 installed, and play complains about failing to open alsa devices. [18:39] i wanna install BSD at some point >.<;;; just no time to install and learn [18:39] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:39] Necos, it's 31337 [18:39] not really :P [18:39] but it'd be a good experience to have under my belt [18:39] crazy, irish music [18:40] Action: wollw runs OpenBSD on an old headless powerbook. [18:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-129-243.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:41] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] jeev: i love classical music [18:41] and that helps me with my BSD experience, how? wollw... [18:41] jeev: and neo classical metal [18:41] adamk_: oh, you don't have alsa? in that case, you probably have to explicitly recompile sox with --disable-alsa, or else pass some CLI arg to tell it to use OSS... [18:41] There are fourteen configurable options in 'make config' for sox in FreeBSD ports, 10 of which are selected by default. [18:42] I'm quite certain that those 47,000,000 dependencies can be greatly reduced by select items you don't actually need :-) [18:42] brb [18:42] Necos: it doesn't except I can tell you OpenBSD is a nice OS [18:42] adamk, dont the options inside make config have their own dependencies? :) [18:43] Urchlay, Yeah, I'm sure it can be done, I just find it frustrating that it doesn't have OSS and alsa support together by default :-) That's certainly possible. [18:43] jeev, Yes, many do, I'm sure. [18:43] nevermind, there is no 64bit skype client. ubuntu has a 64 bit package that has some organizational thing but that's it [18:43] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:44] Yeah, it's either a 32-bit statically linked package, or it contains all the necessary libraries (or some combination of the two). [18:44] adamk_: but it does [18:44] adamk_: it just defaults to alsa [18:45] Urchlay, Then how do I force it to use OSS? [18:45] adamk_: just for grins. "man sox", and search for the string "oss" within the man page. [18:46] Errr.... [18:46] I'd sign over my first-born son to you, but that'd just leave you hanging for a while. [18:46] I wonder why that never occurred to me before. [18:46] is OK, I probably couldn't afford to feed him :) [18:47] AUDIODRIVER=oss [18:47] lol [18:47] v4nelle (n=van@adsl170-222.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:47] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6159.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] ...apparently if you need sox to support mp3, you can install lame from SBo, then rebuild sox with Pat's slackbuild and it'll automagically pick up LAME during the configure [18:48] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:50] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [18:51] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.164.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] I'm having a problem compiling lilypond. It says it requires: "mf-nowin mfw mfont mpost t1asm" Where do I find this file? I've installed the dep's from the Slackbuild Readme. [18:53] silent_contender: use "su -" to get root privileges and try again. [18:53] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.121) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:53] hm, pat could distribute a sox package that was built with --with-lame=dyn (it would dlopen("liblame.so") at runtime, the binary would work for everything but mp3 if liblame.so were missing) [18:54] hey networked|plagiarist [18:54] er, Urchlay [18:54] fire|bird, ok. [18:58] fire|bird, tried and nothing. Still the same [18:58] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [19:03] i don't remember rebuilding sox... mine works with mp3 [19:03] hiptobecubic: mine doesns't .... frensh install [19:03] doesn't* [19:03] fresh* grrr [19:04] silent_contender: Did you do a full install of slackware? [19:04] hmm [19:04] fire|bird, did but later remove some stuff. I've did a reinstall of t/* before trying to compile. [19:05] silent_contender: You might do a reinstall on tcl/ as well. [19:05] fire|bird, ok [19:07] fire|bird, still nothing. [19:10] Hmm, I'm not sure what's happening then. [19:11] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:12] slackie (n=x@87.196.4.194) joined ##slackware. [19:12] Nick change: hexorcist -> quasar [19:12] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [19:12] hey, fadeout|telephony [19:14] lol [19:14] hiptobecubic: I didn't check too thoroughly, it might be that the default sox can decode mp3 but not encode it [19:14] ah [19:14] fire|bird, I'm going to double the dep's [19:14] but the command I actually wanted to run, couldn't: sox input.mp3 output.mp3 pitch 100 [19:14] *double check [19:14] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:15] (because input.mp3 is a song that was recorded with the guitars tuned down to E flat, and I'm supposed to be learning it in E) [19:16] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] fire|bird, deps are good. [19:19] silent_contender: wait, what? I've got a full install of 13, and I don't have anything called t1asm, mfw, or mfont [19:20] Urchlay, yeah. So I'm confused. Lilypond wants those things. Supposedly they should be with Tex stuff, but they aren't [19:21] they're not part of fontforge or mftrace? (whatever those are, they're the deps...) [19:21] Nope [19:22] Slacky.eu doesn't mention mfw, etc. either [19:22] Urchlay: It has to do with t/ and iirc tcl/ Also making sure you use su - instead of just su to gain root. [19:22] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [19:22] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] Tvmbledown (n=hargo@h173.134.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.132.127) joined ##slackware. [19:23] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:23] what's up slackers [19:23] Urchlay: I had this issue a while back, and thankfully BP{k} helped me out and those were the issues. [19:23] y0 lotec [19:23] Anyone familiar with how to fix resolution in X? [19:23] fire|bird: naw, there really is no "mfw" anywhere [19:23] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [19:23] I've read a ton of articles online, but only succeeded in screwing things up worse. [19:23] fire|bird, didn't see '-' [19:23] Tvmbledown: what is wrong wit hit? [19:23] silent_contender: lol, ok, try with that then. su - [19:23] lotec: It's too low, and I'm not sure how to raise it properly. [19:24] fire|bird, doing so. What's the difference? [19:24] Tvmbledown: desktop? what kind of video card? [19:24] Urchlay: It's all part of one thing, not an individual mfw, etc. iirc. Maybe BP{k} remembers. [19:24] silent_contender: su - gives you a true root login shell, su does not. [19:24] lotec: Yes, and let me check. [19:25] silent_contender: try adding /usr/share/texmf/bin to your PATH [19:25] fire|bird, ah. Well that makes the difference. Thanks. [19:25] WTF, binaries in /usr/share?! [19:25] Tvmbledown: ok let me know [19:25] silent_contender: you're welcome [19:25] someone can give me a hand configuring dhcpd? these is my dhcpd.conf http://acidtripper.pastebin.com/m4d6608db [19:25] fire|bird, I should double check what I read. lol [19:26] im trying to give inet via my laptop to a desktop pc via ethernet [19:26] but there's still no mfw or t1asm in /usr/share/texmf/bin [19:26] lotec: Something NVIDIA, can't remember what. I've got the proprietary drivers going. [19:26] your using the nvidia driver for nix? [19:27] lotec: Correct. [19:27] Tvmbledown: ok [19:27] acidtripper, are you trying to share internet? [19:27] yes [19:27] my laptop have internet via wifi, and im trying to share it via ethernet to other pc [19:27] lotec: The system's not recognizing my monitor - it worked just fine when I swapped it out for the one that was fuzzing to death, but when I restarted my computer, I was without graphics modes. [19:28] Urchlay: no, and I can't recall exactly what includes those, but it is at least something with t/ [19:28] fire|bird: hm. I really really thought I had a full install [19:28] at least for installing some software, then i will buy a wlan for desktop [19:28] Tvmbledown: you need to rerun X xonfig [19:28] Urchlay: lol [19:28] erm x config [19:28] acidtripper, don't know if this will work (worked on ubuntu by my experience). https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing [19:28] I remember doing that many times :) [19:28] What's the command, lotec? [19:29] Tvmbledown: looking one sec [19:29] Tvmbledown: xorgconfig [19:29] it will take you threw some prompts to fix the issue [19:29] eh, I *do* have a full install (at least I have everything in t/ installed) [19:29] acidtripper, what are you having trouble with? [19:29] Lotec: Not working. [19:29] Lotec: The command is not found. [19:30] tetex, tetex-doc, transfig, and xfig [19:30] hum stand by let me start mine [19:30] X -configure ? [19:30] yeah lotec thattoo [19:30] Tvmbledown, sudo it [19:30] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] Tvmbledown: you have to be root [19:30] argh, gotta run back downstairs... brb [19:30] Tvmbledown, also x -confiugure [19:30] Tvmbledown: and also best to be loged out and at your bash prompt [19:30] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:30] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [19:31] acidtripper, Is that what you are looking for? [19:31] None of this is working, even as root. [19:31] Tvmbledown: as it can mess up your xorg.config file and you will not be able to see [19:31] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] Tvmbledown, no X ? [19:31] Tvmbledown: working on mine [19:31] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-0-141.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:32] dios_mio: I'm running X, or I wouldn't have a window manager. :P I just have no idea what I'm doing. [19:32] i cant make it work [19:32] Tvmbledown: are you logged out and in a bash prompt? [19:32] the dhcpd server is running [19:32] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-0-141.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:32] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [19:32] lotec: I am in runlevel 2. [19:32] but eth0 on the other pc timed ouy [19:32] out [19:32] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-0-141.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Tvmbledown, ctrl-alt-numeric + and - also changes resolution [19:32] Kamel (n=1@99-205-243-255.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving." [19:33] dios_mio: That's having no effect. [19:33] acidtripper, so the laptop's timing out? What is the laptop running? [19:33] dios_mio he installed a new monitor [19:33] slack [19:33] desktop timed out [19:33] oh a new monitor.. then he needs to change his xorg.conf [19:33] Tvmbledown: ok so you are at a bash prompt and logged in as SU? [19:33] Yes. [19:33] acidtripper, are you using Wicd? [19:33] Tvmbledown (n=hargo@h173.134.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left ##slackware. [19:34] desktop eth0 timed out i don't know if dhcpd.conf is bad settedç [19:34] Tvmbledown: at the # you typed xorgconfig correct? [19:34] i cant post output dhcpd if someone want to help :( [19:35] nobody can help [19:35] lotec man, when will slackware get a nice package manager and binray support like ubuntu? [19:35] ubuntu is crap. slack works fine if you know how to move in it. [19:35] if you want that, go use bluebuntu. please. with bells and whistles [19:35] lotec, yes but no installing stuff quickly with one command [19:36] darn trolls [19:36] hehe [19:36] acidtripper, I think the static ip config would be easier. [19:36] serious how hard is it to type make and make install? [19:36] yes, the only thing i want to do is to have inet in that desktop, couse i will install arch on it [19:37] and i need it to download packages needed [19:37] or maybe slack [19:37] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:37] but i have to download howl dvd image [19:37] lotec, see, it is doable in 300 kb programs... but for instance i wanted to install the latest version of pidgin the other day.. and the tar.gz itself is 8 mb.. I didnt even start the make... which would take hours probably [19:38] acidtripper, I've always done a static using the ubuntu guide. Works well. [19:38] dios_mio i have no idea what type of computer you are using or your internet connection but i can download 8mb in no time [19:38] what distro using silent? [19:38] dios_mio: i upgraded it once .... i hve a 1.6ghz single core took like less then 20 minutes [19:38] have* [19:38] lotec, I dont mean the download of the source.. I mean the compiling time!! [19:38] acidtripper, Ubuntu laptop. Slackware/ubuntu desktop. [19:38] dios_mio well maybe it is time to get a new computer? [19:38] deco, ooh... maybe i should have given it a try. [19:39] dios_mio: eh, slackware's already got pidgin, though... was there something special in the latest version, that you absolutely had to have? [19:39] spider10101 (n=spider10@71.39.154.25) joined ##slackware. [19:39] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [19:39] (I don't use pidgin, so I don't know... so that's a serious question) [19:39] dios_mio: I use a pentium 4. Largest thing I build even semi-regularly takes about 90 minutes [19:39] Urchlay, heh thats no solution man.. thats just giving up [19:39] i run slack in vmware and i can build in a few min. [19:39] Tvmbledown: where did you go? [19:40] eh? Problem: you want to use pidgin. Solution: you use the pidgin that got installed when you installed the OS. That's not "giving up"... [19:40] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [19:40] NaCl, i have yet to find anything that takes more than 20 minutes [19:40] beyond slack, obviously, lotec [19:40] edman007: octave? [19:40] too many luddites in the world [19:40] the latest pidgin is in /patches [19:40] lotec, i directed him to #xorg .. he is a ubuntu guy anyway.. I told him to come to #slackware and pretend being a slackware user to get help.. because noone in #ubuntu is an expert in anything [19:40] right firefox is the the worst because the terrible build system can't barely use 40% of available CPU [19:40] NaCl, yea [19:40] s/right/right now/ [19:41] dios_mio see they know nothing, but they build a damn OS? what since does that make [19:41] s/can't/can/ [19:41] I mean, if the newest version has new features you *need*, that's not a complete solution... or if you're a pidgin developer & need to run SVN code (but in that case you'd already know that) [19:41] lotec, lol [19:41] edman007: Wait, octave takes 20 minutes for you? [19:41] no, i have 8 cores... [19:41] do you have that guide there? [19:41] it must work for slack [19:41] i'll tell you what octave takes one, one minute [19:41] Oh. [19:41] edman007: Even your one core is faster than my P4. :P [19:42] dios_mio that is the reason there was no xorgconfig. because ubuntu is an overcrowed piece of crap built on debian out of all of the piece of junk linux distros to use [19:42] Urchlay, well i actually gave up on slackware over that pidgin problem and went on to ubuntu 9.10... it is working alright [19:42] acidtripper, what guide are you talking about? [19:42] lotec, heh i know [19:42] because you wanted the latest pidgin? [19:42] thrice`, lol yes, and in the end i ended up using aMSN too...ironic [19:42] NaCl, building.... [19:42] which is (as thrice` already pointed out), in patches (or xap/ if you use -current) [19:43] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/patches/packages/pidgin-2.6.3-i486-1_slack13.0.txz [19:43] dios_mio: you'll have the exact same problem at some point: you'll want the latest pidgin (or whatever app), but the version in ubuntu is the old one... [19:43] pidgin is horribly coded. theres more trouble ahead. go get a decent piece of soft [19:43] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:43] everyone wants a damn package manager. serious is google broke hell they even have packages prebuilt for slacknow just use installpkg [19:43] Urchlay, in ubuntu you type a command and it downloads and install the binaries [19:43] dios_mio: you can do the same in slackware. [19:43] dios_mio, in ubuntu you can die and still smell bad. whats your point? [19:43] don't preach about ubuntu in here [19:43] if you had a clue that is... [19:43] lol [19:44] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [19:44] dios_mio: yes, but if those binaries are for an older version, you're SOL [19:44] i think when they made the first terminator. the guy he was supposed to kill was the guy that made Ubuntu [19:44] my heart is still with slackware though, it is the first linux i ever used [19:44] blah blah, don't care [19:44] heh [19:45] dios_mio: BP{k} is right. You could have run "slackpkg update" and "slackpkg upgrade-all", which does about what "apt-get" does in ubuntu [19:45] Urchlay, never learned those pkg commands... i only know untar and make [19:46] dios_mio just needs he hand held. God help him if he has to type ./configure && make && make install [19:46] o__O [19:46] straterra, get your fag ass on RR tonight so i can own you [19:46] my disclaimer, i havne't played in a mnoth or tw [19:46] two [19:47] NaCl, octave: 4m35.804s and that is counting decompression the tarball and compressing it back into a .tar.gz [19:47] err .tgz [19:47] ArcherSeven (n=Archer@24-207-199-217.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:47] edman007: your disks are probably also faster than mine. :P [19:48] not using disks to build it.... [19:48] /tmp/SBo is tmpfs ;) [19:48] Oh. [19:48] How much RAM do you have? [19:48] 8GB [19:48] i need more too [19:49] This thing has 1.5 GB. [19:49] :P [19:49] I can occasionally push it to swap. [19:49] edman007 what are you running? [19:49] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:49] p4? dual? [19:49] NaCl, I feel you. In the same boat. [19:49] dual quad xeon (e5410s on a tyan i5400pw) [19:49] lotec: that is one wicked fast P4 if it is one (which it isn't). :P [19:50] acidtripper, Any luck with static IP? [19:50] lotec, fbdimms are expensive :( [19:51] edman007 that your server? [19:51] jebus i need to update mine bad :( [19:51] silent_contender: I'm not complaining. The thing still runs like a dream. [19:51] lotec, no desktop/do everything workstation [19:51] i have a junk p3 dell with 1tb of space [19:52] edman007: Server motherboard? [19:52] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] have the prices came down on the xeon now? i have not looked in years. i just use my laptop now i have not had a desktop in 2 years [19:52] well i consider it a workstation mobo...but close enough ;) [19:52] moomoo [19:52] lotec, no [19:52] nix_chix0r, moo [19:53] y0 nix_chix0r [19:53] edman007: impressive [19:53] NaCl, I'm not either. Just requires a little patience. It's better than the alternative. XP in this. [19:53] *on [19:53] nix_chix0r, i'm get another week of travel this month :P [19:53] silent_contender: my HDD started acting funny, so I ditched the windows install. [19:53] where you going this time edman007 ? [19:53] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-190.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:53] Action: fire|bird waves to edman007 [19:54] nix_chix0r, wash DC [19:54] Action: edman007 waves back [19:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [19:54] NaCl, dual-boot off of two different HDD. Not much problems so far. [19:54] edman007, neat [19:55] silent_contender: I don't know what happened, but the files in /home started being "half-there" [19:55] I could still boot the thing, but I didn't want to risk it. [19:55] NaCl, interesting... [19:55] crap i still need to install slack 13. [19:55] pgeek|| (n=anon@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] nix_chix0r, doing anything interesting? [19:56] edman007, my parents found a house in illinois they are going to buy, so my dad is there atm sorting the paperwork then they move in january. which means we can start up the paperwork on buying this house from them [19:56] silent_contender: I mean, if I ls'd the directory where a file was "gone", it would be there, but accesses failed. [19:56] and fsck went bonkers on that partition. [19:56] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422961.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:56] NaCl, I bet. lol [19:56] sold their home for 250,000 british pounds [19:57] home they are buying in illinois is 140k [19:57] nix_chix0r, moving in the middle of nowhere? get a house in a populated area [19:57] didn't tried [19:57] yet [19:57] hadn't [19:57] acidtripper, what are you trying now? [19:57] or just later [19:57] NaCl, ext3 hates my drive.... [19:57] well they will be in a more populated area, me i'm staying here we put too much in this house, and we can get DSL now so no point moving [19:58] right now ext3 is probably the biggest limiter of my uptime, and fsck is not helping [19:58] ext3 has served me well here. [19:58] edman007, DSL! [19:58] nix_chix0r, dsl? bah, i'm sad that fios won't come by and give me 20meg up, so i'm stuck with 30/5meg [19:58] edman007, what's wrong with ext3? I've been told many times to use ext3 (I'm using ext4 though lol) [19:58] pretty pathetic i get excited over that [19:59] fios kinda sucks...still using roadrunner [19:59] nyRednek: my fios does not suck [20:00] lotec: the fios we tried did [20:00] lotec: big tie [20:00] s/tie/time [20:00] silent_contender, i don't know, i've been getting all these random errors (removing blocks its not suppose to or something, seems like all the lists/trees in the FS are messed up), so sometimes it will just kill FF for using the drive and then everything else gets killed for using the drive and i have to reboot [20:00] i have 30/30 service and it flys. along with the tv is alot better then the crap britehouse offers here [20:00] britehouse? [20:01] cable provider. for RoadRunner [20:01] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [20:01] nyRednek, dslextreme does fios at 20/20 and i want that, only $55/mo [20:01] i have optonline and it not that great [20:02] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] lotec: i was sure roadrunner was part of time warner [20:02] fast, but but i hate a lot of their dumb policies [20:02] nyRednek so is britehouse :D [20:02] nixchix0r, you screwed up! [20:03] lotec: never heard of it referred to in that way... [20:03] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:03] nixchix0r, you have dsl and are getting killed by Mr peer? [20:03] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:03] nyRednek http://tampabay.brighthouse.com/default.aspx [20:03] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:04] lotec: oh, i'm in richmond co, ny [20:04] i figured from the name [20:04] hell you guys can get faster fios then i can down here [20:04] Action: edman007 is in nassau [20:04] my work pays for mine. i think they offer 50/50 in your area [20:05] lotec: and roadrunner is faster here than it was in texas [20:05] rr offers 25/10 might be 30/10 now with phone [20:05] i have been on fios for 3 years now [20:06] i thought at&t was laying fiber up there also? [20:06] nyRednek what speed you getting from RR? [20:06] i know where i moved from, at&t was king...even outrun the local cable-comcast [20:07] lotec: not sure...never really check... [20:07] RR? [20:08] spider10101: roadrunner [20:08] roadrunner [20:08] lol i'm stupid [20:08] spider10101: iow, time warner's cable internet service [20:09] nyRednek: all i know is down here Verizon keeps uping the speeds trying to take over the market down here. now if they could just get the channel programming fixed on the cable box [20:09] at this point I wish the word "extreme" could be banished from the English language [20:09] Urchlay: explain [20:10] i'm at a linux user group meeting (first one), they are showing the new features in Ubuntu 9.10 [20:10] last night I walked by a TV, looked at it, and there's a guy on there talking about storms, with a caption under him that read "Joe Blow, Extreme Meteorologist" [20:10] (eh, it had his real name, not Joe Blow, but still.) [20:10] LMAO [20:10] spider10101: for the love of all that is unholy are you serious? [20:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [20:11] yes and I'm scared [20:11] "extreme DSL" sounds like a synonym for "crappy DSL" to me... [20:11] spider10101: you could always start laughing [20:11] extreme DSL is a synonym for we will give your first meg at 1000000000k speed then throtle it down to 10k :D [20:12] well i think trying the new release will be all the punishment they need [20:12] eh, so I'm right, just making a snap judgement based on the name... [20:12] pgeek|| (n=anon@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] spider10101: agreed...ubuntu 9.04 trashed itself when i tried it [20:13] The other big problem down here at least. when you upgrade to Fios they rip the old copper out of the ground. so no more DSL or regular phone [20:14] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:14] pgeek|| (n=anon@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] nyRedneck: 9.04 was great compared to 9.10. I upgraded my wifes system (yes she likes ubuntu) to 9.10 and kernel panic (fixed now, it only does it every couple boots) [20:15] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:16] i wish the guy that invinted ubuntu would eat himself. all of the young guys i work with have it on there laptop saying OMG look i got linux on my laptop. [20:16] spider10101: You really want to have fun with Ubuntu (besides kernel panic) install gnome-shell and see how long it takes to say "WTF" :P [20:17] LOL Mark Shuttlesworth made ubuntu (Paid to have it made to give back to the foss community. [20:18] who here likes his gift to you [20:18] what gift? :P [20:18] ubuntu [20:18] haha, s/gift/curse/ ;) [20:18] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [20:18] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:19] Ubuntu isn't bad, for who it's aimed at, but I don't care for it all that well. [20:19] the other problem with ubuntu. now dell is packaging it on there damn eeepc and i want to buy one, but i have to kill the partition [20:19] Mark Shuttleworth loves each and every one of you. [20:19] and, they have a long way to go before they can say they really give back to the community, imo. [20:19] unless your a female [20:19] pgeek|| (n=anon@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:19] lol, lotec's out then. :P [20:19] Action: fire|bird runs [20:20] spider10101: o back door bandit i see [20:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [20:21] i got to go get a shower ill be back on in a little [20:21] i dont think so. he said sexist stuff at a conference [20:21] ubuntu is great for desktop home use imo [20:22] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [20:22] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:23] Ubuntu is great for shit. [20:23] and it's theme certainly plays into that. [20:23] They mangle all of their stuff [20:23] lol [20:24] firefox, mp3, chat, msn.. thats all i need [20:24] pdf maybe [20:24] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:24] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [20:27] they should have stopped at a friendly installer for debian [20:28] i just wonder if patrick volkerding loves us all...i hope he didn't do it all for the code [20:28] :P [20:28] lol [20:30] all i could offer .... nahhh, nevermind... folks. [20:30] and suse should have stopped at being an rpm-based slack [20:31] you are just jealous.. thats your problem [20:31] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:31] dios_mio: of? [20:31] suse is just a bad copy of redhat [20:31] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [20:31] packeteer: now it is...at one point it was slack based [20:31] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:31] you arejealous of the popularity of ubuntu [20:31] from bluebuntu to suse. whats happening in here? [20:31] jg71: life [20:32] go fetch some windmills to fight [20:32] n00buntu? ubunturd? wha? [20:32] dios_mio: not really...if this distro was the mainstream distro, i'd probably find another [20:32] how is suse a 'bad copy of redhat'? [20:33] nyRednek, thats an extreme point of view.. very exagerated [20:33] does suse still use yast? say what you like about it, but it's not copied from redhat... [20:33] Urchlay: yes, it does. [20:33] yast is almost as evil as the old "smit" thing from AIX [20:33] Urchlay: yes, and yast still sucks the big one [20:33] Urchlay: smit and smitty are the only things that make aix usable :) [20:34] nyRednek: how does it suck? [20:34] (which I only ever had to use once or twice, but it was pretty annoying at the time) [20:34] Urchlay: little running man got to you? :) [20:34] naw, I was on a tty over ssh, no graphics [20:35] dios_mio: ubuntu is the new kid in town...and it is for n00bs...further, the packages in ubuntu are often mangled beyond recognition [20:35] actually I can't remember that much about it now, I was able to figure out how to set one of the TTYs to non-blocking mode by default, which is all I had to do [20:35] Urchlay: ahh, so the smitty interface. it can be annoying if you don't remember your keys. the gui one is a bit better [20:35] ananke: make a manual change and see how long it takes yast to undo it [20:35] nyRednek: i do it all the time. [20:35] nyRednek, it works fine and it is pretty... that does it for me [20:36] dios_mio: so why are you in the slack channel?\ [20:36] nyRednek, i brought someone here, he wanted X conf help [20:36] i didn't realize suddenly #slackware was only for slackware users. black power! [20:36] ananke: well, honestly, i've watched yast undo changes i made using vi in a terminal\ [20:37] hm. You just gave me a weird vision of a bunch of militant slackers marching on Redmond, shouting "Slack Power!" (I guess we can call the the Slack Panthers...?) [20:37] nyRednek: that's as vague as you can be. yast is composed of dozens of multiple and individual modules. each one behaves differently, and majority of them either warn you that they may overwrite your configs, or simply back it up [20:37] Urchlay: haha [20:38] slackheads? [20:38] Urchlay: the slackware underground [20:39] Urchlay: write virii that uninstall windows [20:39] _viruses_, for christ's sake, _viruses_ :) [20:40] ananke: virim [20:40] spider10101 (n=spider10@71.39.154.25) left irc: "Java user signed off" [20:40] "viri" (with one I) might be OK as faux-Latin [20:40] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Success [20:40] i'll send you a VirII (ubunti) [20:40] except there's already a word "viri" in Latin (meaning "men" IIRC) [20:41] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [20:41] nyRednek !!! [20:41] ananke !! [20:41] -im is hebrew ending [20:41] ! [20:41] i'm bok [20:41] nyRednek plural ending [20:41] hm, what would "ubuntu" decline as in Latin? "ubuntus, ubunti, ubuntum?" [20:41] lol [20:41] ubuntu stercorum est [20:41] elohim; eloha [20:42] (ubuntus stercorum est, maybe?) [20:42] it's a wee hiiwaan [20:42] unbutus secondum est [20:42] Quiznos: elohim is a compound word [20:42] but it's one Gawd :) [20:42] Quiznos: as opposed to a plural word, a compound word [20:42] Quiznos: I like mine better: "stercorum" means "shit" (or so I was told, I didn't learn that word in my Latin class...) [20:42] nyRednek you learned hebrew :) [20:43] Urchlay ah [20:43] jeev: im in [20:43] Urchlay: ubuntu et chara [20:44] i prefer pseudo-latin myself; more fun ;) [20:44] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] igpay atinlay? [20:44] and back [20:44] et(object identifier) chara(shit) [20:45] i'm watching the new V series; i'm being reminded of the 50s B-movie _To serve man_ [20:45] DONT PISS OFF THE FOOD!!! lol [20:45] Quiznos: is the new V series worth bothering with at all? [20:45] Urchlay so far so good [20:45] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.132.127) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:45] all the sinistericity is there. [20:45] lol [20:45] I liked the old V series (re-watched it a couple years ago, it aged fairly well) [20:45] see, that's what i do to language [20:45] me too [20:45] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] the first episode seems alittle fast; like, catch-up on the old stuff [20:46] "To serve man" was made into a movie? [20:46] (not in a bad way) [20:46] yea. [20:46] i think it was [20:46] my mem might be bad [20:46] dmonk (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:47] ah, it was made into a Twilight Zone episode [20:47] yea that's what i remem [20:47] ok; commercial [20:47] yea, this new epi does seem quicker so far but i do think it's rebuilding the background [20:48] and theyve added more contemporary stuff, events, tech, etc [20:48] you remember nana visitor the actress? [20:49] and the not-so-subtle brunette? [20:50] they've also added (are building) a back story of predecesor visitors too [20:51] hm, wonder if Robert Englund makes a cameo [20:51] heh [20:51] we'll see [20:51] he peels off his human skin, and he's a lizard... then he peels off his lizard skin and he's Freddy Kruger! [20:52] lol [20:52] and peels again and he's Chuckie [20:52] lol [20:52] no, he peels again and he's the strip club owner from "Zombie Strippers" [20:52] lol [20:52] i never saw that one [20:53] i'm not into gore [20:53] me either, but it's so bad it's funny [20:53] nods [20:53] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-228-154.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] i think i need to se the flicks that Carman Electra is in tho [20:54] se/see [20:54] Quiznos: did you get klined from freenode? if so, how'd you get un-klined? [20:54] gnubien yes and i dont know specifically; time-out maybe? [20:54] timed-out [20:54] Quiznos: ok, just a short time kline [20:55] a few undeserved weeks [20:55] i did nothing wrong [20:55] besides, i was able to pop on and spook a few channels [20:55] :)~ [20:55] during the kline [20:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:56] what did you do [20:56] Urchlay the V main-char-girl is serious hotty [20:56] chee just logged in [20:56] v4nelle (n=van@adsl170-222.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:56] what did you do in the first place [20:56] for what? [20:57] someone tell ford nobody is gonna buy a ford taurus that's more than $4,000 [20:57] ford is doing excellent without bama's help; tyvm. [20:57] tell them yourself, jeev [20:57] jeev or a ford focus [20:57] lotec, same shit. they need to focus in the <5,000$ msrp [20:57] Urchlay Earth: Final Conflict!!! ftw [20:57] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] chalcedony (n=llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony) left irc: "bye bye *hugs*" [20:58] Quiznos, what stupid people dont realize is that obama's bailouts were only set due to extortion, if he didnt do it, we'd be in worse condition [20:58] i'd buy a ford f-150 for close to list price [20:58] jeev i agree on the extortion; i didagree on the 2nd clause [20:58] Quiznos, how so [20:59] he bailed out the rich, the money makers and the market. [20:59] if you buy and f150 they should give one of those damn focuses for free [20:59] IF he didn't do that, they would bring down the market even more, people would go "berserker" [20:59] jeev the fed, the banking .com's, bama and congress caused all the problems. [20:59] hahahah lotec [20:59] jeev: i wouldn't want a pos focus [20:59] Quiznos, i'm not talking about who caused the problem [20:59] Urchlay definately worth watching. [20:59] ok [20:59] nyRednek, i would.. to drive over. [20:59] o [20:59] jeev: but an f-150 is a decent vehicle [20:59] i'm talking about the extortion and how it happened [20:59] nyRednek: F150.. yes.. [21:00] nyRednek: good vehicles [21:00] nyRednek, not bad. was gonna buy one one day [21:00] although the new dodge ram has caught my eye with the extra storage in the bed sides [21:00] chevy [21:00] and a ranger(used to be f100) isn't that bad either [21:00] is the best [21:00] jeev yea, the bankers, bama and congress did all that, begining with revoking the Glass-Stegal act of 193n [21:00] Quiznos, you know he had no choice [21:00] if you do, you're seriously mistaken [21:01] revoked in the 1990s by Clinton and congress [21:01] wyhen you think about campaign promises, you think they're just LYING but they're not [21:01] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] jeev i think there was a choice [21:01] no the focus comes with the f150 to keep the rear end from sliding out. can also be used to keep your groceries in so they dont get wet in the bed [21:01] because when you're not the president, it's easy for you to say.. i want to leave the war and stop this and that [21:01] jeev: I'm in now.. [21:01] jeev but since you arent axing for clarification, you and I both know who's running the game. [21:01] Guest88768 (n=droog@71.34.72.48) joined ##slackware. [21:01] but when you become president and they tell you that if you dont stop the war.. we can't continue to expand our empire.. and what not, then it turns into a lie. [21:01] yea [21:01] when obama says he wanted to accept the armenian genocide [21:02] he wanted to.. obama went to school a few miles from my house. [21:02] ok [21:02] point is, he went into office, they told him how important it is to have turkey as an ally [21:02] that's why he hasn't spoken about it. [21:02] ok [21:02] because to america and israel, it's very bad to accept the armenian genocide [21:02] because it will ruin relation with their only muslim ally, TURKEY [21:02] i'm waiting for the goldstone report to do is daage [21:02] i'm not versed at all in that situ to respond [21:02] anyone installed slack on an eeepc or netbook yet [21:02] ? [21:02] damage, even [21:03] what's that redneck [21:03] lotec: i installed 12.2 on i [21:03] nyRednek: use the usb boot.img? [21:03] lotec: i used two flash drives [21:03] jeev, but i recognise and comprehend that for govts, it's all primarily about commerce first. [21:03] hum. nyRednek got a guide on that? [21:04] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@32.97.110.59) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:04] lotec: one was the usb installer, the other held the slackware directory [21:04] lotec: unfortunately, no [21:04] Quiznos, too bad dumb shits in this country dont recognize that [21:04] they still think government is for the people first [21:04] haha [21:04] ok, so you just mounted the second usb with the slack cd correct? pulled the pkg off of it? [21:05] erm the second usb had the slack cd pkg on it [21:05] jeev it is all about private (self) studying. some people cant or wont; however, I am over-joyed that so many Americans are rising up to say "NO" [21:05] lotec: yeah [21:05] jeev i think they realise that govt is NOT for them; that we are their enemy [21:05] Quiznos, i haven't seen any [21:05] although when you live in more immigrant societies, you really do get smarter people [21:06] jeev look at all the tea parties and talk shows and on radio. [21:06] those people are morons Quiznos. [21:06] i think they're 6 years too late [21:06] no, they arent. and if they are, then you'd have to say "they are learning" [21:06] nyRednek, i might have to hit you up here in a few months [21:06] jeev either way, they are learning. [21:06] anyways, regarding goldstone report [21:06] lotec: ok... [21:06] they should've been having those tea parties when bush was going to war on false intelligence [21:06] do tell red [21:06] they're not learning, they're doing what their right wing wacko's are telling them [21:06] jeev yes, but better late than never [21:06] Quiznos, if you call that learning.. you have a misconception [21:07] see that's where we part company; as i said, they are standing up. [21:07] if the un security council acts on the goldstone report and pursues israeli leaders, the current state of israel ceases to exist [21:07] if I could, i'd go to DC thursday [21:07] nyRednek, how so [21:07] nyRednek ok, that wont happen. [21:07] Quiznos, you're not understanding it. they're not standing up for themselves, they're standing up for something that they're being told that is a lie. [21:08] jeev well, i'm quite pleased that they are finally standing up first!!! [21:08] they'll learn. [21:08] nyRednek, i've never seen un security council vote on anything worthwile [21:08] if in fact they are being decieved. [21:08] un is the most pointless org on earth [21:08] jeev: most of israel's leaders are indictable vis a vis the goldstone report [21:08] Quiznos, what's the point of standing up if it's in deceit, that's negates standing up, most of them know it's all fake but they still do it [21:08] including that former pm and living judenrat olmert [21:08] nyRednek is the report public yet? [21:08] that's not learning, that's stupidity and "unpatriotic" [21:09] jeev first they recognise that there is something wrong; bama and congress are out of control. that's first. [21:09] i think that other dood who got ousted from AIPAC needs to be a man and harm AIPAC [21:09] jeev 2nd, get obedient people elected who wont forget where they came from. [21:09] Quiznos, you're wrong [21:09] ok [21:09] aipac is essentially dead [21:09] how so? [21:10] nyRednek, no it's not [21:10] they completely fucked chas freedman or whatever his name was [21:10] jeev: they have been discredited in washington for illegal lobbying practices [21:10] nyRedneck: how is the election going on up there? expecially the mayor ? [21:10] lotec: hopefully, mike won [21:11] i Listen to O&A heard it all this morning. [21:11] jeev I know what the real problems are and what the real solution should be but i'm not sure the solution should be done, given God's plan (NO flames on this) [21:11] i dont believe god has a plan specifically for america [21:11] if you do, you're a fucking dumb ass [21:11] mlanden's late [21:11] there's a plan. [21:11] see george washington's vision [21:11] nyRednek, aipac will never die. NEVER [21:11] and the world is going to end in 2012 [21:11] no it aint [21:11] as long as they have their grip on american testicles, they'll be around forever [21:11] you know, that's the longest I've seen jeev and Quiznos talk to each other without resorting to calling names [21:12] Urchlay, you make me feel like i'm losing my touch [21:12] Urchlay, hahaha [21:12] webbi (n=webbi@190.247.208.97) joined ##slackware. [21:12] jeev: the israeli government doesn't use aipac in its lobbying efforts anymore [21:12] hello [21:12] nyRednek, then they'll create a new lobby [21:12] Urchlay lol; i dont use names; i use adjectives. but i cant argue on things i dont know [21:12] is there any problem if i set a password for the apache user so i can login via ssh ? [21:12] nop [21:13] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:13] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:13] webbi, why would you? [21:13] that's good practice [21:13] really ? [21:13] jeev: bibi is taking a "screw the us government" stance [21:13] Quiznos: great... thanks [21:13] yw but see what jeev says [21:13] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] jeev: not a "screw america" but "screw the obama administration" [21:13] nyRednek so you heard about bama's ultimatuum to israel? [21:13] i duno, i never would do that but....... [21:13] jeev: i think its good because that user will just be able to do exactly what i need [21:14] you know what, bush went and fucked up the world [21:14] and nobody ever wanted him to screw up [21:14] yeah, letting someone log in remotely as the apache user is probably a Bad Idea [21:14] webbi a passwd removes one potential vuln [21:14] Quiznos: which one? i've heard of several [21:14] it's amazing how people just want obama to fail [21:14] it amazes me how they want their country to fail. [21:14] jeev: obama isn't doing much better [21:14] nyRednek "do what we say or we'll eliminate the money train" ? [21:14] nyRednek, how do you expect him to do better when half the population is brain washed by idiots in the media ? [21:14] how do you expect someone to clean up an 8 year old mess in months? [21:14] are you serious ? [21:14] jeev well, him and his policies [21:14] Quiznos: they didn't have a money train to israel anyways...an empty threat [21:15] ok [21:15] why is everyone over his policies now, how come when BUSH LIED ABOUT IRAQ [21:15] over a million people are dead in the middle east and americans are saying obama's not doing a good job [21:15] this is unbeleivable [21:15] unbelievable [21:15] is bama doing a good job? [21:15] jeev: now the statement bout being brain washed. 3/4 of the media is behind obama [21:15] more than 75% [21:15] lotec, doesn't matter if 3/4 of the media is behind him [21:15] 90% even [21:15] jeev: nobody has an attention span. Bush is "old news" so nobody's thinking about him [21:15] it does [21:15] the biggest company is poisoning the morons [21:15] no it doesn't [21:15] most morons watch fox news [21:16] bama still is. he doesnt want to take responsibility for what he's done to the economy [21:16] how can the media being brainwashing when 3/4 of them are preaching he is great [21:16] you're in a nasty depression, it's not TIME to be partisan. [21:16] tho bush started the bail out, bama totally ruined the whole system, and continues to [21:16] what has he done to the economy??????????????????? [21:16] its time to shut down the city. [21:16] he is sure not helping with the depression either [21:16] and it is not only us in a depression. most of the world is [21:16] one guy, even a president, can't destroy the economy all by himself [21:16] i gues he's nto doing anything with aids either eh? [21:17] DaveyTheChin (n=DaveyThe@pool-72-91-150-198.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] jeev all the printing of paper has diluted and debauched the value of the FRNs [21:17] Urchlay: that is corret this has been doing on for a very long time [21:17] seriously, money money money. [21:17] Urchlay he's not alone in doing so but it is his signature and word that DCites are following [21:17] so bush had the help of everyone else to destroy the world [21:17] oh no, Quiznos is back. [21:17] Quiznos: werent you klined? [21:17] spook !!! [21:17] yes [21:17] but nobody will help obama help their own country because they want him to fail. [21:17] are you currently evading your kline? [21:17] personally, I think the economy's been fake ever since we went off the gold standard (which was when, the 1920s?) [21:18] 1933 [21:18] march [21:18] everything is a game. [21:18] game over already, but the losers dont know it. [21:18] jeev: every time we help a country we get people saying get out. they dont want you there [21:18] lotec, what's the last country we helped? [21:18] so they send over the stupid UN who does nothing [21:18] seriously, dont mention anyone in the mid east. [21:18] killing innocent people isn't helping [21:18] the UN needs to be evicted [21:18] Quiznos: when i log as apache user it login and then kick me.. i think its because i have no set a shell, is that possible? [21:19] webbi, doesn't have a shell or a home dir probably [21:19] tsunami rescue? [21:19] webbi: that's exactly right [21:19] take all the politics to ##slackofftopic now please :P [21:19] use chsh to set a shell (do as root) if that fails, edit etc/passwd manwilly and fix [21:19] yea, tsunami. that's it [21:19] webbi oor fix both probs manwilly [21:19] jeev: and if you think we are just killing innocent people over there. you are watching the wrong channel [21:19] Quiznos: are you evading your kline? [21:20] still kind of terrible to give the apache user a password and a real shell [21:20] i just love how everyone talks about the first few months of obama's presidency and saying he's a failure [21:20] when everyone is wishing a failure [21:20] lotec, innocent people are dying [21:20] Urchlay: it doesnt need a shell. ever. [21:20] no need to invade the mid east, it happened. we're still there. [21:20] jeev: i gave him 100 days [21:20] spook: agreed [21:20] nyRednek, that's why you're stupid [21:20] give someone 100 days to fix the economy after it was destroyed in.. what? [21:20] 30 [21:20] 2920 [21:20] heh [21:20] jeev: since, historically, a president's first 100 days define his presidency... [21:20] 2920 days. [21:20] nyRednek: jeev Quiznos lotec ##slackofftopic politics needs to go there now. [21:20] jeev: we have to be there, we will pull out that place will collapse and everyone in there mother will run in there and we will have the same problem 10 years from now [21:21] i didnt start the fire... [21:21] spook: ok just haveing a convo [21:21] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] nyRednek, if you haven't noticed. they've been wishing him evil, death and everything since he was elected. [21:21] greetings and salutations [21:21] greetings andarius, how are you? [21:21] andarius [21:21] fire|bird !! [21:21] lotec, there is no winning in the middle east [21:21] lotec: so have it in the offtopic channel when there are people trying to get help with slackware in here. [21:21] salutations fire|bird, i am well. you ? [21:21] if your ann coulter ass believes there is, you have issues [21:21] Quiznos !! [21:21] andarius: I am good, thank you. [21:21] spook no one needs hep here [21:21] hihi andarius [21:22] Quiznos: are you currently evading your kline? [21:22] spook: i understand i have all readed went into the room [21:22] what do you think? [21:22] spook you're too confrontational to answer. [21:22] "we could win a war..." [21:22] my ass [21:22] heh [21:22] DaveyTheChin (n=DaveyThe@pool-72-91-150-198.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [21:23] the only way a war could be won is the end of the world and thats not victory. [21:23] play tic-tac-toe [21:23] speaking of tic-tac-toe has anyone watched the remake of war games [21:23] ? [21:23] no kdding? they did that? [21:23] i havent yet [21:23] let me find it [21:23] cant rember the name [21:23] nahl i can [21:24] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:25] Quiznos: WarGames the dead code [21:25] kk [21:25] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:26] not even close to as good as the first, but updated just dont get your hopes up :D [21:26] k [21:26] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [21:26] yht heh, it's not good to irc as root from winders :) [21:26] ???? [21:28] ucoool someone is root [21:29] every account in windows is 'root' [21:29] yeah at my office all computer is win [21:30] webbi (n=webbi@190.247.208.97) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [21:31] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [21:32] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:34] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] yht: yours and a lot of other offices [21:37] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:42] mitchx (n=mitchx@chello089077133211.chello.pl) left irc: "leaving" [21:44] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-190.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] spook: not @ my home office (haha) [21:48] yht: mine neither. only one windows machine atm. [21:48] and 5 slackware machines ^_^ [21:49] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6159.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:50] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6159.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] does it count if the machine belongs to your kid? if not i have no windows machines :o [21:50] mshade (n=mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:51] andarius: yes it counts unfortunately. because you should convert them to slackware. [21:51] if virtual machines count then i have 4 windows boxen. [21:52] she is 12 and plays games. there is no logical reason to convert her to linux at this time [21:52] thats the perfect age to convert her. especially using wine [21:53] since she is a primary gamer, again, there is no logical reason. most games are for windows, run best on windows, makes sense for her to use windows [21:54] ah then you're too late :P [21:54] Too old she is to begin Jedi training [21:55] nahh, she should use what fits what she wants to do. right now its windows. i figure she will outgrow windows just like i did [21:55] by now, she's formed her deep-seated impression of what a computer is and how it should work [21:56] she must unlearn what she has learned [21:56] she likes my system and how it works, just doesnt fit her needs. i think she is already on the "future linux user" path [21:56] yep [21:56] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] knowing windows is a good thing :P [21:57] slackie (n=x@87.196.4.194) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:57] if I had kids I'd probably tell them "when you're old enough to work, you can get a job, save up your money, and buy windows... if you still want it by then" [21:57] only sort-of kidding, there [21:59] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:01] Guest83741 (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] Urchlay:Mind if I use that one? [22:03] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F5EC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] and ground them if they pirate it [22:06] spook: yep. [22:06] LinkLonk (n=LinkLonk@ip-67-198-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: "Quit" [22:06] dmonk: go right ahead... eh, use it for what? [22:11] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-237-105.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6159.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:15] thieusoai (n=thieusoa@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:16] Urchlay:to teach my kids a "valuable lesson" [22:17] Urchlay: I grew up using Mac OS and now I have more xterms open than anything else combined [22:17] So it is never too late [22:20] Nick change: jhw_ -> jhw [22:21] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.48) joined ##slackware. [22:23] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [22:23] heh. Dr. Spock, I ain't. [22:24] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:29] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] LinkLonk (n=LinkLonk@ip-67-198-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@p5DC3083E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [22:33] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:34] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC3083E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:34] Nick change: kleanchap_ -> kleanchap [22:35] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC3083E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [22:36] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [22:42] securekey (n=secureke@blk-224-252-108.eastlink.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:43] securekey (n=secureke@blk-224-252-108.eastlink.ca) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:47] "round peg don't fit in square hole? use a big mallet to force it through!" [22:47] oops, wrong channel [22:47] Nick change: LinkLonk -> TooGreatBindy [22:48] wouldn't pi to 4 places be 3.1416? [22:48] isn't neck spelled with a c? [22:48] pi31415: when one chooses to spell it correctly, yes [22:48] well there you go [22:48] oh really [22:49] so don't you think the same choice applies to pi as well? [22:49] amazing how that works, huh? [22:49] Wood_Warrior (n=name@87.120.51.187) joined ##slackware. [22:49] antiwire: well, mathematical truths are absolute...grammatical ones relative [22:49] that's cute [22:49] as far as I know, neck is neck... [22:50] Action: pi31415 takes that as a compliment but not a complement [22:50] antiwire: i've seen redneck spelled several ways, most of them incorrect, yet valid [22:51] dmonk (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:51] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:51] so then you know how rounding works right? [22:51] antiwire: that must have been a truncation instead of a round [22:51] and string truncation [22:52] seems to me that pi31415 has simply chosen not to round [22:52] just as you chose not to spell correctly [22:52] i get a lot of flak for it [22:52] pi31415: i was just picking at you [22:52] people expect rational, well rounded numbers [22:53] I expect irrational thoughts and poorly rounded numbers from people. [22:55] Wood_Warrior (n=name@87.120.51.187) left irc: "Leaving" [22:55] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Client Quit [22:55] alright, i want to get the latest release of xorg and the kernel. what distro should i do this with? is it possible/easy with slack? [22:56] gentoo, depends [22:57] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [22:58] LFS :o [22:59] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:00] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [23:02] andarius: was gonna do it once. way too much work though [23:02] i mean, i don't see my time as very valuable, but it's not *that* invaluable :P [23:02] echelon (n=echelon@2001:41d0:1:bb3f:0:0:0:1020) joined ##slackware. [23:02] hey guys [23:03] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:05] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] honestly and distro should be updatable to the latest of anything. the real question is what distro do "you" know enough about to make that upgrade work [23:07] s/honestly and/honestly any/ [23:07] i did lfs once [23:08] the book is great but it was not as much fun as it was back in the day when Linux was still a mystery to me [23:08] once seems to be the norm. most dont make it past the first time ;) [23:08] v3gard_ (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [23:08] i personaly am not motivated enough to try it [23:08] hello all [23:08] my first Linux machine was home brew and I ran it like that for a few years [23:08] it does get tedious [23:09] ello not all [23:12] i find slackware to be a good base for most things [23:13] tho i doubt i could convince my new company (very redhat centric) of that fact :) [23:16] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:17] being a good neutral base for most things is slackwares strong point [23:19] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-109.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "I regret Nothing..." [23:20] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:21] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:22] well, i'm about to boot to slack on my netbook to see if i can get the touchpad working right after updates [23:22] wish me luck! [23:23] die violently... i mean good luck ;) [23:23] I wish you an onslaught of binary demons and hex specters [23:24] philh (n=phil@cpc2-oxfd13-0-0-cust119.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [23:24] why is it that so many coders have trouble telling halloween and xmas apart? [23:24] don't know [23:25] because oct 31 == dec 25? *sorry* [23:25] lol [23:25] oh snap! [23:25] booo [23:25] nobody uses octal any more [23:25] somebody kick macha out [23:29] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] Nick change: Azalyn__ -> Azalyn [23:32] s[v]lol (n=Y_Y@125.163.229.230) joined ##slackware. [23:33] s[v]lol (n=Y_Y@125.163.229.230) left irc: Client Quit [23:36] duotridecimal [23:36] or tetrahexidecimal [23:36] RedSocrates (n=RedSocra@cpe-69-207-175-250.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:36] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:38] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:40] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] when i die i look forward to using SlackwareInfinity and programming in ordinal base assembly [23:42] pankaj (n=pjed@ppp-124-122-100-47.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [23:43] hello [23:43] I look forward to haunting any remaining humans when I die [23:44] hey i need to tunnel my cousins computer to my friendss mailing domain. any idea how i could do this? [23:45] what? [23:45] that question made no sense... [23:45] cousin PC ----> Blocked by Proxy Chia [23:45] China* [23:45] going to need an ssh shell I'm guessing [23:46] ok. [23:46] that's the price you gotta pay for good dim sum [23:46] hahaha [23:46] TooGreatBindy (n=LinkLonk@ip-67-198-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: "Quit" [23:46] so i want to route my cousin internet thru my computer so that he can access sites that are blocked by chinese govt. [23:46] such as google apps [23:47] Sounds like a great plan. [23:47] Tor? [23:48] ArcherSeven (n=Archer@24-207-199-217.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:49] antiwire: so ssh shell is what i should be researching? [23:49] or reading on [23:50] ssh tunnel for proxy [23:50] yeah, as well as getting a good international law lawyer [23:50] pankaj: you should be researching an ip tunnel [23:50] pankaj: openvpn? [23:50] openvpn sounds good [23:51] there are many ways to circumvent the repressive policies of autocratic regimes. none i can think of would please chairman mao, though [23:51] You can do ssh tunneling to a server that has squid proxy installed [23:51] I do that for my brother ;) [23:51] mancha: I respect Mao deeply in my heart. [23:52] it's too late for that [23:52] GET HIM [23:52] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-66-139-123-102.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] mao is dead [23:52] I still see him on the Chinese RMB notes. [23:53] maybe physically dead, but somehow he manages to make himself appear everywhere in China. [23:54] in that sense, america has more respect for mao than the chinese ever did [23:54] nyRednek: how so? [23:55] chinese money keeps the us government afloat [23:55] yes. but its not good for the us govt. [23:55] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.48) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:55] pankaj: no argument there [23:57] pankaj, your flattery will get you nowhere, i've already called this incident in. guoanbu's on its way...eta 5 inutes. [23:57] nyRednek: its politics. China wants to be the next Super Power but I dont think it can unless it learns to respect the pillars of democracy and human rights [23:57] *minutes [23:57] mancha: are you serious? [23:57] i better pack up. [23:58] pankaj: don't worry, mancha called the ss on me five times...and i'm still here [23:58] no, i am not serious. good luck with your tunnel. [23:59] pankaj: democracy and human rights are secondary to power even in the us [00:00] --- Wed Nov 4 2009