[00:00] ok wxcam: error while loading shared libraries: libxvidcore.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [00:00] there is your error [00:01] did you installed wxcam dependencies? [00:01] ok how should install dependency [00:03] from where you got wxcam? slackbuilds.org? [00:03] is there any command to install dependency [00:03] not in official slackware [00:03] you have to find hte deps and install manually [00:03] not, you should install averything yourself [00:03] ok [00:09] dngr (~dngr@119.237.150.180) joined ##slackware. [00:12] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] vikas (~vikas@117.196.230.123) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:23] Does anyone know off hand where the configuration is in slackware to bind the cli and the x windows to the different key combinations ? [00:23] ?? [00:23] you have something like what you are talking about in alt-fn-1 and alt-fn-6 [00:25] ya im asking if you know where the configuration that determines that is ? For example if i wanted to change it to get rid of the one for the x screen and make it also a cli key combo or if i wanted to remove some of the cli ones and replace it with a x screen one [00:25] like remove the fn 4 and f5 and swap them out with x versions instead of cli [00:25] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:26] alt-f1 wont do anything for you if you're using runlevel 4 - and alt-f6 is the only one defined in runlevel 4 [00:27] I know that . Im asking how you redefine them yourself for a custom key combos [00:28] /etc/inittab defines the gettys [00:29] while in X, that's defined by the x config file [00:29] I believe it's the .xresource file [00:29] otherwise it's in the DM settings [00:29] Those key combinations Alt+Fx are in the kernel. X controls whether or not Ctrl+Alt+Fx switches console. [00:30] however - when in X the alt-fN keys don't work until you get out of X [00:30] at least work as console switchers [00:30] I don't know if the kernel key combinations are configurable. [00:30] the console keys do work from X [00:31] I believe you have to rebuild the kernel with those keys modified [00:31] So you may have to redo the actual kernelto change that then your saying [00:31] tney don't work on mine unliess I use ctl-alt-fN [00:31] once I get into console mode, then the alt-fN keys work [00:32] what is the diff betwen ctrl-alt-fn and alt-fn? [00:32] metakey modifiers sent [00:33] the metakey modifiers also identify if you're using the left or right ctl/alt keys [00:33] Ctrl- is ignored in console, but required in X. In X, the Alt-Fx keys are not honored. [00:33] correct [00:33] rob0, i see. okay so basically you can always just use ctrl-al-fn and be done with it [00:34] and not have to confuse the issue.. [00:34] indeed, I do that a lot :) [00:34] but back to the fella with the question, he'd have to edit the kernel keymap [00:35] or, figure out some other workaround to solve the problem :) [00:35] yeah, or that. [00:35] ISTM probably easier to change whatever he wanted to give the kernel key combos to. [00:38] Another thing im wondering is If you log into X remotely . Would that affect someone being able to log into x locally at the same time since your only allowed 1 X to run at a time ? [00:38] you can run many X's [00:39] huh? You're confused. How are you doing this remote X? [00:39] but logging into X remotely is weird phrasing...what exactly do you mean [00:39] X is nice that way - there's even a tutorial for remote X logins [00:39] There are tools out there that let you use x from a different machine [00:39] different tools do things differently [00:39] i was wondering if it would stop a person from logging into x locally if x is being used remotely at the same time [00:39] you do have to configure an /etc/X11/xorg.conf that allows remote logins [00:40] for example, vnc's are hacked xorgs [00:40] XDMCP (kdm or xdm in Slackware) can manage many remote X displays over the network [00:40] then you have other ways to achieve similar effects. x11vnc taps into your main display's X or a display's X [00:41] newslacker, i think you can edit those key combos with setkeycodes/loadkeys/dumpkeys [00:41] then you can run an X server locally and have the remote merely run the client apps [00:41] Rat409 (~Rat409@bb-205-209-95-251.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] so, many answers...i think you need to narrow down and focus your question more [00:41] or xmodmap [00:42] Nick change: evil|bird -> fire|bird [00:42] I thought kde and all of those run on top of x and arent x itself [00:43] I thought you can have multiple instances of kde and gnome or whatever but not multiple instances of X itself [00:43] correct - gnome and kde are DE's - desktop environments. They run on top of X [00:43] you can have multiple X's also - just specify a different console for it to be on [00:43] slackware by default starts X on f7 or f8, but you can start another X on f9, f10, etc. [00:44] asarch (~asarch@189.188.149.127) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:45] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.65) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:47] So your saying i could hook up multiple pc's and have them all tied into 1 remotely and run x from all of them at the same time without any problems. [00:47] google "linux terminal server" [00:48] I knew i could with cli but i didnt know you could with x [00:49] you baically have something that will run an X session - can be something old and lightweight like a 486 or old p1 - then have them do remote logins to a main server [00:49] wyse company even made a line of modem looking boxes that did that [00:49] you hook up a vga monitor, keyboard, mouse, network cables and use a remote server for the actual work [00:51] Donut (d4192fbc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.25.47.188) joined ##slackware. [00:51] hello [00:51] i just updated from slack 13.0 to 13.1 and when i try to startx i get "ksmserver: error while loading shared libraries: libattica.so.0:" [00:52] did you upgrade correctly? sounds like you missed something [00:52] Donut: you forgot to install new packages [00:52] slackpkg install-new i think its called [00:52] i upgraded from current mirror [00:54] I wonder if i took a machine that ran a different version of linux on it then installed the slackpkg stuff to it and then ran the commands to update it if it would convert the os over from the old os to a new 1 [00:54] like ubuntu or fedora to become slackware [00:54] hexhawk (~hawk@unaffiliated/hexhawk) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:55] you would have library version incompatibilities [00:55] it may start, but then would start to show curious behaviour on different things [00:56] ah didn't saw the second post sahko tnx [00:56] Donut (d4192fbc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.25.47.188) left irc: Quit: Page closed [00:56] Donut: did you read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT & follow UPGRADE.TXT ? thats the way to do it.. 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[06:57] adrien, echo foo | sed s/f/F/ [06:59] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:00] metrofox (~metrofox@unaffiliated/metrofox) joined ##slackware. [07:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425126.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:12] actually, I'd use something closer to: sed 'y/[a-z]/[A-z]' but unfortunately, [a-z] and [A-Z] aren't character ranges if you use 'y/...' [07:12] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [07:12] raela: I need your sed-fu! :P (and eviljames, I remember you were boasting your knowledge of sed once too, so get up right now ;p ) [07:18] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-92-136.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:18] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:18] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:18] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-92-136.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[08:19] adrien: yeah... :) [08:21] asteroid (~asteroid@78.119.85.123) joined ##slackware. [08:21] asteroid (~asteroid@78.119.85.123) left irc: Changing host [08:21] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [08:26] v4nelle (~van@79.107.237.232) joined ##slackware. [08:31] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:34] adrien: tried his: text="FOO" ; echo ${text,[A-Z]} [08:35] It seems to work :) [08:35] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.128) joined ##slackware. [08:36] (from "man bash", ${parameter,pattern}) [08:36] zsh: bad substitution [08:36] :P [08:36] I tend to avoid bashisms [08:37] adrien: ah... zsh... :) [08:37] even if I use #!/bin/bash but that's only to avoid crappy crappy crappy shells [08:37] adrien: me too... but for these things it's very powerful :) (but unreadable...) [08:38] basically, I want to avoid bad shells but I still want to give the possibility to run it everywhere [08:38] yeah, the other method in a function is quite readable ;-) [08:39] well, the other method, if I read it a year later, I can understand it. These bashisms I always have to look up in the manual... [08:42] I'll eventually rewrite the script in another langugage anyway but currently, shell script is good [08:47] illovae (~C-18@edu.porneia.net) joined ##slackware. [08:48] btw, just noticed that you wanted exactly the opposite of what I was doing: foo -> Foo [08:49] That would be: text="foo" ; echo ${text^[a-z]} [08:50] Use ksh [08:50] (Or even pdksh) [08:51] text="foo" ; echo ${text^[a-z]}: pdksh: : bad substitution [08:53] I use the original sh ported to my PDP-11 [09:03] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.181.228) joined ##slackware. [09:04] illovae (~C-18@edu.porneia.net) left irc: Changing host [09:04] illovae (~C-18@unaffiliated/illovae) joined ##slackware. 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[09:20] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:21] anyone knows of a meeting scheduler other than doodle? I need something that has nicer interface (doodle very annoying). Google based apps won't work because people who don't use gmail will also be using it. [09:22] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:30] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [09:33] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:35] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.6) joined ##slackware. [09:40] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [09:41] john_dee (~id@95-29-145-19.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:41] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [09:42] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [09:42] pete` (user@055.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). 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[10:34] briareus (~briareus@ip68-2-95-80.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [10:34] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [10:34] captine (~please@41.177.32.192) joined ##slackware. [10:35] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [10:35] _marc` (~marc@port-92-195-198-68.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [10:37] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] hello all [10:38] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-242-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:38] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-242-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:39] has anyone built a libre-kernel for 13.1 or current ? [10:41] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:44] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host41-201-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host41-201-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Changing host [10:44] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [10:46] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [10:52] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:54] polare (~polare@89.250.152.176) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:59] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.6) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:01] whats a libre-kernel? [11:01] an RMS approved kernel, sadly still licensed under GPL2 [11:03] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:05] e01 (~e01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:20] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [11:21] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:22] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] grebur (~grebur@79.114.227.9) joined ##slackware. [11:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:23] Hi everybody [11:23] I'm newbie in Slackware [11:24] can anyone tell me.....if I will compile iptables 1.4.9 from source I can do this with kernel_dir specification... [11:24] or I must recompile with kernel...(last kernel/) [11:25] |ntegra| (dru5k1@118-92-22-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) left ##slackware. [11:27] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) joined ##slackware. [11:27] v3gard_ (~v3gard@v3gard.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:28] grebur: why would you want to compile iptables y ourself? [11:29] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:30] I go to the netfilter homepage and I see the ultimete stable version is 1.4.9 and I have on my PC 1.4.7....nothing else...maybe for exercise... [11:30] grebur: ic, well unfortunatly i can't tell you, just curious you see [11:30] when i send a mail using mutt, it uses me@server.box.net as my email, i would rather it sent mail using me@box.net, how can one make mutt do that? [11:31] but I have an other partition I install slackware on this ...and in it I can exercise .....any.. [11:33] Mutt is highly configurable. There are dozens of ways you can set your envelope sender address. Your MTA or nullclient can also be set to use a default domain when one is omitted. [11:33] ace [11:33] grebur: perhaps if you want to recompile iptables, you can have a look at how Pat does it in his iptable.SlackBuild [11:36] Morning :) [11:36] u2:D [11:36] fred: again? ;) [11:36] Fred, how's the jet lag? :) [11:36] rob0: I consider waking up at ~ 8am to be as close to a win as I could hope for :) [11:37] yup, you did good [11:37] in Cali ? [11:37] Thank's for advice BP{k},.. have a good day [11:37] yep. [11:37] grebur (~grebur@79.114.227.9) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:38] bets on how long until grebur breaks something? [11:38] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:38] Action: mwalling says 10m [11:38] he already has an incomplete (broken) installation time: -0 [11:39] mwalling, might beat your record at 10m ;) [11:39] I think it will take longer, simply because he doesn't know enough to break things effectively. [11:39] fred, how long was such a flight? [11:40] all in all, 23h of travel, including taxis at both ends, and stop over. 7h Dublin -> Newark, 7h Newark -> SFO [11:41] bogusjokes (~Doomdude@78-82-255-117.tn.glocalnet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:43] fred: jet lag? [11:43] 16:32 < fred> rob0: I consider waking up at ~ 8am to be as close to a win as I could hope for :) [11:43] that timezone being old local time [11:44] stargazer (~stargazer@201-1-0-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:44] see, thats why we still need the concord [11:44] stargazer (stargazer@201-1-0-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [11:44] my last flight to germany left around 6pm local, and we ended up in Germany around 4am; that was rough [11:48] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [11:59] ashe (~ashe@125.163.44.200) joined ##slackware. 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[12:17] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:20] http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/ [12:20] thanks BP{k} [12:21] zebalq (1000@pc-92-89-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:22] Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-libre .. your googlefu is weak .. ;) [12:23] s/weak/non existant [12:23] the first link is first result for 'linux libre' [12:24] sahko: I was trying to be nice. ;) [12:24] turns out i found all those links but didnt answer my question quite [12:24] ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [12:24] who maintains that linux-libre? [12:24] torvalds? [12:24] dirty hippy tested, dirty hippy approved [12:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [12:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:25] pupit: then you really can't read. [12:25] Currently Linux-libre is maintained and published by the Free Software Foundation Latin America. [12:26] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.128) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:27] part that confused me is the gnu logo on the main page tbh [12:28] as "gnu/linux" is widely used [12:29] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:30] the libre-kernel is a kernel with non-free code removed [12:32] yeah, "75% of Linux code now written by paid developers" [12:32] old article http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm [12:33] how's that rellevant? [12:34] paid developers produce free code [12:34] didnt say its rellevant, did i? [12:35] asarch (~asarch@187.132.134.79) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:35] i guess you didn't [12:38] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [12:50] Oak (~silas@115.167.5.222) joined ##slackware. [12:50] Oak (~silas@115.167.5.222) left irc: Changing host [12:50] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. 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[13:18] maco2 (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:27] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:28] marseill1 (~marseille@218.9.124.158) joined ##slackware. [13:28] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-121-192.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:31] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [13:31] BP{k}: can i pm you? [13:33] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [13:33] hey guys [13:34] i still havent run my little thing :) decided to make it better before using it... [13:34] cyb3r3li0g (~eguzman@c-174-56-25-89.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] andyr0ck (~andyr0ck@cpc3-seac10-0-0-cust684.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:35] only 87726 operations now instead of 400k [13:35] fallertsen (~Franz@87.19.42.253) joined ##slackware. [13:35] andyr0ck (andyr0ck@cpc3-seac10-0-0-cust684.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware. 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[15:15] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:18] illovae (~C-18@edu.porneia.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] illovae (~C-18@edu.porneia.net) left irc: Changing host [15:19] illovae (~C-18@unaffiliated/illovae) joined ##slackware. [15:20] tsccof (~tsccof@201-15-191-50.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:22] lemonzest (~lemonzest@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust234.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:25] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.128) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:26] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] I didn't install the XAP packages, but I need imagemagick, does anyone know the dependencies to it? [15:28] do i have to isntall all of X? [15:29] Reticenti, Just install imagemagick, attempt to run it, and install anything it complains about missing [15:30] maybe do a 'cat /var/log/packages/imagemagick* | grep usr/bin` and do ldd against those files, and look for missing links [15:31] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [15:31] poprocks (logan@CPE00236934deab-CM0012253dec94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [15:32] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.161) joined ##slackware. [15:35] nvision (~nvision@g225050173.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:35] nvision (~nvision@g225050173.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Changing host [15:35] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [15:36] lemonzest (~lemonzest@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust234.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] cr3_ (~cr3@109.207.53.6) joined ##slackware. [15:38] hello [15:39] when i try to start kopete the following error occurs [15:39] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425126.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:39] (i hate errors by the way!) [15:39] bash-4.1$ kopete [15:39] kopete: error while loading shared libraries: libkabc.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [15:39] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425126.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:40] kabc: LIBKABC - new address book API for KDE [15:40] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:40] cr3_: -current, 13.1? [15:41] Reticenti: install imagemagick and try running ldd on the binary, should give you some clues. [15:41] eviljames, root@darkstar:~# cat /etc/slackware-version [15:41] Slackware 13.1.0 [15:41] but maybe i messed up something earlier [15:41] Reticenti: or binaries, as the case may be. [15:41] i dunno if it worked after install [15:42] You could try to use slackpkg to clean up your system if you think something has gon awry [15:42] s/gon/gone/ [15:43] eviljames: i just tried running imagemagick and isntalled all the packages it complained about [15:43] thanks :) [15:45] cr3_: you need kdepimlibs [15:45] pprkut, installing... [15:46] worked! :D [15:47] thx [15:47] tomaw_ (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Quit: Quitting [15:47] i'm just wondering how people know some things instead of asking on irc [15:47] google is god [15:47] no [15:48] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-124-180.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:48] couldn't find anything useful and libkabc on google [15:48] vastina: your a Bing advocate? [15:48] gniks: no [15:49] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.161) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:50] cr3_: http://packages.slackverse.org/ [15:51] lemonzest (~lemonzest@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust234.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:51] also, am i cool for smoking a pipe while using slackware? [15:55] i guess i am [15:55] :D [15:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:56] lemonzest (~lemonzest@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust234.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:58] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:01] Roin (~florian@141-70-77-103.user.wh-stuttgart.de) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [16:05] snuffles (~bleh@CPE00222dd69298-CM00222dd69295.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] Nick change: snuffles -> timmaah [16:07] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:41] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Quit: http://blog.KeepingYouHonest.net && http://yashunda.com [16:44] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425126.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:44] uva (~uva@111-240-206-124.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:44] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425126.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:48] hrad (~a@77.93.201.43) joined ##slackware. [16:48] how come that JVM always uses only one core from four ? is there a way to set it up ? [16:49] if I run one - 4 Java apps, it always employs only one of my processor cores [16:49] uva (~uva@111-240-213-24.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.139.25) left irc: [16:50] does anyone know how to run VirtualBox as root without logging into X as root? [16:51] I get these errors: [16:51] No protocol specified [16:51] Failed to open the X11 display! [16:51] zaltekk: you shouldn't be running virtualbox as root [16:51] load the kernel mods as root [16:51] gniks: i have to start it as root to load a phsyical disk vmdk into the storage manager [16:51] run the VM's/apps as your user [16:51] otherwise it fails to access /dev/sdb [16:52] whats the perms on /dev/sdb? [16:52] brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8 [16:52] infid (~infid@99-101-15-134.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] you're thinknig i should add myself to disk? [16:52] add your user to disk,plugdev groups [16:53] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:53] and the vbox group [16:53] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] already in plugdev and vbox's group [16:53] cool [16:53] how do you un-./configure something? i just ran ./configure prefix=/path/to/dir-that-doesnt-exist and it successfuly ran configure even thought hat dir doesn't exist? [16:53] add in disk [16:53] infid: run configure again with the correct options [16:53] do i just run ./configure again and it overwrites the last values? [16:53] thanks [16:53] np [16:53] why didnt it error before? [16:54] infid: what program are you compiling ? [16:54] if the dir doesnt exist it just defaults back to its default or something? [16:54] nmap [16:54] infid: why not use the slackbuild from slackware source to do it? [16:54] zaltekk: let me know if that works :) [16:55] gniks: well, i think i need to restart KDE to get it to work now [16:55] xspider (~xspider@Cust95-205-iht.opticnet-bg.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] gniks: i'm installing it to my home dir and i only know how to do that with regular source compiles [16:55] anybody ? [16:56] is that possible/easy with slackbuild? [16:56] infid: gotchya& you can use the slackbuild script and change the prefix option& why it didn't complain before im not sure [16:56] hrad: what? [16:56] gniks: cool. yeah i guess it would probably have complained once i ran make though [16:56] tomaw_ (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [16:57] gniks, the question wight before zaltekk asked [16:57] configure really should warn you before you run make though [16:57] right* [16:57] probably only does if the creator of the config file programmed it to. idk [16:57] infid: usually the make install command will create the prefix dir if it doesn't exist [16:57] it shouldn't error out, but depends on how they wrote it [16:57] i wouldnt have permission to create that dir so it'd error [16:58] that is a problem :p but it doesn't have a way to check your effective perms and warn you [16:58] i did prefix=/home/foo/bin when i meant /home/infid/bin [16:58] yeah [16:58] hrad: sorry i don't know JVM well enough to answer your question [16:58] i just know it runs when i need it :p [16:58] just have to be careful not to override stuff you do have perms on. hopefully slackbuild is safer [16:59] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:59] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.153.117) joined ##slackware. [16:59] gniks: it let me add the vmdk after logging out and back into kde [16:59] infid: you could use make install DESTDIR=/where/to/install [17:00] zaltekk: awesome [17:00] idk why i didn't think of joining the group [17:00] infid: it will create the install in that directory as if it were / [17:00] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a::bd) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:00] zaltekk: hehe yeah&some times it helps to have a second look at it& you're just using /dev/sdb as your vmdk store? [17:01] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [17:01] gniks: no, i'm using a vmdk that makes /dev/sdb on the host appear as a drive on the guest [17:01] ah raw passthrough [17:01] yeah [17:01] trying to do hackintosh [17:02] might want to configure udev to set perms on that disk to something your user has access to, cause now your user has access to all disks :p [17:02] gniks: i'm only doing it for a temp situation [17:02] just going to install OS X to the harddrive through a vm [17:02] then delete the vmdk [17:02] ah cool [17:03] i made too many coasters trying to find the OS X disk onto a dvd5 [17:03] and burn from linux [17:03] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] can't get it to convert properly from .dmg [17:03] hehe yeah i remember those days [17:03] do you have a mac? i think disk utility lets you make iso images of DVDs [17:03] gniks: i tried in teh vm [17:04] hm [17:04] it lets me make a .dmg or .cdr [17:04] ive never tried converting one [17:04] i read many places that a .cdr is just an iso [17:04] but file, k3b, and my new coaster disagree [17:04] cdr is slightly different format, but the loop driver in linux might be able to read it [17:04] it can [17:04] but burning it doesn't work [17:04] xspider (~xspider@Cust95-205-iht.opticnet-bg.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] i _could_ try to burn directly from the VM now since i started using VirtualBox instead of VMWare [17:05] yeah [17:05] sof (~sof@cpe-75-186-123-250.indy.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] but i think that the passthrough to /dev/sdb will work just as welll [17:05] and i'll have access to a full retail disk and not a stripped one [17:05] sounds like it should work [17:06] let's hope so :P [17:06] i'm quite certain my wireless card isn't going to have drivers [17:06] tomaw_ (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:06] but some other very similar models do, so maybe it'd be possible to get it working somehow [17:07] hmm, yeah& i haven't tired getting OS X to work on non mac hardware in a very long time :p [17:07] nothing worked though when i tired, no sound, NIC, WIC :p [17:07] was horrible :( [17:07] i think i'll be able to run a nearly-stock install [17:07] with a vanilla kernel [17:08] i'll just need to add a few drivers for sound and possibly my touchpad [17:08] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-175.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:08] cool [17:08] tomaw_ (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. 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[17:24] uh oh...i made a mistake. i didn't unmount /dev/sdb1 [17:24] Nick change: tomaw_ -> tomaw [17:29] hehe, that'd do it [17:31] gniks: yeah, i discovered a few problems after noticing that. i was still playing music from the drive and everything :P [17:32] lol [17:32] jtrag (~jtrageser@c-174-55-74-243.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] it was also doomed to fail because it was using the osx.iso from that drive and not the one i copied to my home directory [17:33] hehe [17:39] strelk (~pokey@188-220-20-192.zone11.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:39] Hi everyone :) [17:40] jtrag (~jtrageser@c-174-55-74-243.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: jtrag [17:40] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.58.165.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:54] satchmo (~louis@cpc2-wiga11-2-0-cust324.pres.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:38] dogz (~dgz@c-98-233-176-20.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:38] zoran119: a) make sure you picked the right time zone, b) if you run an older slackware release, and there have been changes to your DST in the recent years, make sure you're up to date on patches [19:38] actually, nevermind 'b' [19:39] dogz (~dgz@c-98-233-176-20.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] puffy (~puffy@cpe-68-174-52-173.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cpe-68*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:40] puffy kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Annoying yes. Stupid for sure. Tragic ending imminent [19:40] Nick change: SkyTV -> Skywise [19:41] ananke,http://community.zenoss.org/community/download [19:41] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:41] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:41] ahhh zenoss core is fre it appears [19:41] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:41] you dont get a lot of cool zenoss packages but zenoss core IS open and free [19:43] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-41-236-16.ip83.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [19:43] Action: ananke will have to try it out [19:44] the discovery thing is useless from my experience [19:44] it's nice they have packages for the non-enterprise distros [19:44] but the snmp stuff it easy to setup for the common case which is snmpv1 or v2c [19:47] pete` (~user@010.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:49] pete` (~user@010.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [19:56] ananke, if you liked your php-syslog crap, you should try splunk btw [19:57] nachox: that implies that i liked that [19:57] but yeah, i've heard of splunk [20:01] asarch (~asarch@189.188.160.250) joined ##slackware. [20:02] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-41-236-16.ip83.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [20:04] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.22.207) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:07] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.182) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:34] i just put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins [20:35] gniks: hmm i don't have that plugins folder [20:35] just create it [20:35] its not always created [20:35] o [20:35] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:35] but that also just installs it for your user, not everyone :p [20:36] i see, well i'm only one so yea no worries [20:36] cool [20:37] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [20:39] heh [20:40] john_dee (~id@95-29-146-212.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:40] pete` (~user@010.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:40] gniks: thanks a lot buddy. [20:40] pete` (~user@010.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:40] no prob [20:41] rbEye (~rbEye@adsl-71-134-231-63.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:44] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-41-236-16.ip83.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[21:07] well any really [21:07] I take my laptop to the coffee shop [21:07] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] they have no authentication there so wlan0_restart works [21:07] like? IP assignment is done in rc.inet1.conf anything wireless related is done in rc.wireless.conf [21:07] but I come home and I've got WPA [21:07] daidoji: did you ever try wicd? [21:07] so I change WPA configurations in rc.inet1.conf [21:07] doesn't take [21:08] daidoji: wicd may be easier for you. [21:08] gniks, I thought rc.wireless.conf was depriciated [21:08] thumbs, why's that? [21:08] yes, slackware will no longer use rc.wireless.conf [21:08] so thats why I don't use it [21:08] I edit the rc.inet1.conf file manually [21:08] daidoji: because you can change those things on the fly, and restart the interface. [21:08] hmm, it could be& last i used slackware with wireless it was still the way to do it :P [21:08] well thats what I'm trying to understand [21:09] why that doesn't happen when I change those things on the fly in rc.inet1.conf [21:09] cause I've been manually changing them via iwconfig/ifconfig/wpa_supplicant [21:09] but I've always been able to change rc.inet1.conf on the fly for say ethernet no problem [21:10] like this is an "understanding" question on my part not an implementation question [21:12] I mean I thought the rc.inet1 script was supposed to reload the interfaces with rc.inet1.conf *at that time* [21:13] but it seems to not do that [21:13] try stop and then start [21:13] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a::103) joined ##slackware. [21:14] I did, same result as restart [21:14] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Toodles... [21:14] I think restart is just an alias for stop-> start [21:14] id have to re-read the init script to see exactly what it does on a restart, but it may not actually apply new settings but just refresh the dhcp lease& its been a while since ive actually read the scripts, so i don't remember the details [21:14] hmmm, that does seem to be what its doing... [21:14] daidoji: what version of slack? [21:15] 13 [21:15] slackware-current as of a couple of weeks ago actually [21:19] I mean what am I missing here? [21:21] not sure& im looking at the scripts [21:21] for instance I set WLAN_WPA[4]="wpa_supplicant" [21:22] does rc.inet1 look in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf by default? [21:22] or is there an undocumented config option for me to specify that file? [21:23] thumbs: when was rc.wireless.conf deprecated [21:24] im running slackware-current and i have the wireless init scripts and no where in them do they say they are deprecated [21:24] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-227-37-51.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:25] daidoji: the default is /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [21:26] yeah thats what I thought [21:27] look in the rc.inet1 man page [21:27] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:27] rc.inet1 still uses rc.wireless script apparently [21:27] but rc.wireless.conf is depriciated [21:28] the rc.wireless script controlls all the wireless functions& rc.inet1 doesn't have that functionality in it [21:28] right [21:28] rc.wireless and rc.inet1 both use the rc.inet1.conf file for their parameters [21:28] rc.wireless.conf has been deprecated [21:29] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] hmm, chrome's built-in pdf viewer is so far very usable and handy [21:29] yeah, pat might want to actually note that in the scripts :p [21:30] yeah, I remember reading it on alienbob's page somewhere [21:30] and its in the man page [21:30] but nowhere in the scripts you're right [21:31] yeah, i tend not to read the man pages of bash scripts& especially these as they are very well documented from within :p [21:31] well me neither, but this problem has been bugging me for days [21:32] so I've been looking everywhere I can find for documentation on how rc.inet1 works [21:32] because it says it works one way, but it doesn't seem to be doing what it says it does [21:33] gtludwig (~gtl@189.114.200.127.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:33] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-92-136.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:33] sveva65 (~sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) joined ##slackware. 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