[00:00] haha. i should make a habit out of that. [00:00] lol nice [00:00] oh, i take that back [00:00] one picture... [00:00] Dominian: hahaha [00:00] Dominian: did you ever hear anything from either one of them? [00:00] was this one guys entire blog background... [00:00] haha [00:00] Imagine.. lemonparty.. TILED down your entire blog post with "I got caught leeching! Now Im' paying for it!" [00:00] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:00] on the image [00:00] :-I [00:01] awesome [00:01] screenshots or it didnt happen [00:01] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] Dominian: hahahaha, that's awesome revenge. :) [00:01] eww it happened alright [00:01] so when i'm trying to compile klibc, i'm getting errors stating "usr/klibc/../include/errno.h:9:23: error: asm/errno.h: No such file or directory"...when i manually edit the c file to include the whole path (/usr/src/linux/arch/x86/include/asm/errno.h), it compiles fine. how can i point the files to asm/errno.h without the full path? [00:01] dartmouth: trust me... it happened :) [00:01] gyad; why does my mail system 'apologize' to me when it can't send mail? did someone think that was a good idea? [00:01] dartmouth: ask rworkman, BP{k}, alisonken1home, Alan_Hicks, etc etc :) [00:02] some dumbass named thuggangsta or something like that [00:02] Dominian: I think dartmouth should experience that first hand. :D [00:02] hehe [00:02] twolf: yeah [00:02] I don't have th eurls anymore [00:02] what channel did this happen in, anyone know? http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1675 [00:02] anothe rone leeching was some "toughguy" forum or something [00:02] fire|bird: sorry, but my 1337 compositing system makes old naked men 100% transparent. [00:02] Dominian: and why would you think I would instigate a mail apologizing server? [00:02] alisonken1home: eh? [00:02] Does anyone know why when I start x my display freaks out and everything turns to vertical lines, I just did a fresh install of 13.0. I thought I might need the nvidia drivers so I went and downloaded those but It didnt change anything [00:03] alisonken1home: I'm talking about the whole "loadin glemonparty when someone requested images from my server" incident [00:03] ah [00:03] Hakudoshi (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] lolwut: new feature of 13.0 ;) [00:03] lf4, sweet!! lol [00:03] looked like you were replying to his comment about the mail server apologizing :) [00:03] lolwut: change your resolution, it's too high. set it to 1024x768 and use the vesa until you install nvidia (and yes youll need it) [00:03] lolwut: You did make sure to chagne your driver in xorg.conf to nvidia right? [00:03] Dominian: did you see that blog post about some guy threatening suit against someone who had removed images that he had hotlinked to? [00:03] it was hilarious [00:03] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:03] antiwire: oh yes.. [00:04] antiwire: I nearly pissed myself reading that article [00:04] lol [00:04] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.181) left irc: Connection timed out [00:04] Dominian: i saw that somewhere [00:04] lol,antiwire [00:04] lettersfromcrazypeople.com or something [00:04] I got ONE email from one of the sites... [00:04] something along the lines of "What happened to the pirate!?? why do I have porn!??" [00:04] Dominian, no, where is that specified? is the new xorg.conf xorg.conf-vesa? [00:04] ok - I missed the article, got a link? [00:04] My response "Pay me, You get it back" [00:05] lolwut: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:05] its the Driver section for your video etc [00:05] Dominian: have a link to that article available? I missed it [00:05] alisonken1home: I didn't write an article about it :P [00:05] Dominian, the thing is its not there :/ [00:05] or did i.. [00:05] Dominian: not to argue, because I don't know, but doesn't the new xorg have something peculiar or different going on with the xorg.conf file? [00:05] dartmouth: probably [00:05] hell I dunno [00:05] unless you mean hotplugging with hardware [00:05] if i understand right it's just not there or something [00:05] no your comment about someones article about suing over losing their carefully leeched images [00:06] Dominian: ^^ [00:06] that's odd. I just installed slackware 13.0... and now I can't mount a DVD... [00:06] i heard the new xorg only uses a config file with 3rd party drivers [00:06] alisonken1home: ohhhh [00:06] otherwise, hal controls everything [00:06] mount just stalls and it's stuck in 'D' state. [00:06] er.. afaik, there's still an xorg.conf [00:06] yeah thats why i haven't upgraded. yeah. see? I'm not lazy. I'm just _careful_. Yup. [00:06] I know this is old but http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127 [00:06] corte: you can use an xorg.conf if you want to. I use a full xorg.config. [00:07] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:07] actually, xorg.conf is not needed if you have standard setup and know hal rules [00:07] ok, i wouldn't know, i don't run slack 13 :). [00:07] I disable hal autoloading in my xorg.conf [00:07] screws my mouse up [00:07] yeah i dont trust that shit [00:07] i mean stuff [00:07] its all going to moot in the future anyway [00:07] xorg.config/xorg.conf [00:07] hal will go away and udev will run it all [00:07] I used an xorg.conf because hal doesn't know how to tell xorg to work with svideo out of my laptop [00:08] I used xorg.conf because a little elf told me to [00:08] Dominian, so xorg.conf just isnt there...im kind of lost as to what to do [00:09] you can create xorg.conf , in newer versions of X it doesnt always create the file for you anymore because of udev [00:09] lolwut: try running nvidia-xconfig [00:09] lolwut: i would say read the changelog for xorg but you're probably new to slackware or linux since youre installing fresh, and I don't think it's fair for anyone to have to know how xorg works, it's way too big. [00:09] Dominian: Did that same elf bake any cookies?....:D [00:09] unfortunately, no. But left some beer. [00:10] hopefully good beer [00:10] i'm trying to disable HAL all together.... [00:10] Michelob Porter [00:10] Dominian: sweet...elf beer..good fine brew [00:10] pireau: ahh in xorg? [00:10] dartmouth, no ive been running it since 11 I just wanted to fresh install because I didnt want to deal with updating it [00:10] or just not run it? [00:10] non, that part's done. [00:10] oh yes, Michelob Porter is good [00:10] dominian, that did it, for somereason xorg wasnt there initially [00:10] lolwut: oh ok, check out the xorg docs then [00:10] lolwut: no worries [00:11] rob0: yes.. yes it is [00:11] like i said earlier, mount stall in 'D' state if i try to mount a DVD.. [00:11] D state? [00:11] wth is D state? [00:11] I've been buying their wheat beer sampler 12-packs. [00:11] rob0: i like thos [00:11] "Disk sleep" [00:11] i read that as 'dick sleep' for a sec [00:11] "D Uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)" [00:12] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] d 'oh , I have to take intro to unix in school and they require everyone to use ubuntu , wonder if i can get away with using slackware [00:12] Stat "D" means waiting for I/O to complete, uninteruptible sleep. [00:12] pireau: restart udev [00:12] ah ha, dmesg says "hdd: DMA timeout: status=0xc0 { Busy }" [00:12] psyber: I dunno why not [00:12] pireau: doh [00:13] doesn't change anything. [00:13] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:13] the teacher doesnt even know any versions of linux besides ubuntu :-( [00:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] psyber: Doesn't know bsd? [00:14] that teacher would probably freak at me since I have slack installed on the laptop, slamd64 on the desktop, a slax cd and a couple of other cd's as well [00:14] nope , he only knows ubuntu nothing else [00:14] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] and that's just the linux stuff [00:14] what teacher is this [00:14] sounds like a winner [00:14] that and I want firefox 2.0.n.n, not firefox 3.5... but if i install firefox from version 11.0, it coredumps immediatly. [00:15] Action: MLanden prays for psyber's teacher,,lol [00:15] alisonken1home: I'd freak that teacher out.. come in with openSUSE.. with Slackware/openSolaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD all in VMs :) [00:15] yeah should be a fun class , first assignment involves pwd ,ls and cat [00:15] Dominian: :) [00:15] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) joined ##slackware. [00:15] psyber: snooze [00:15] psyber: Just don't expect to really learn anything useful in school. It happens, but it's rare, and usually a matter of the student spending his own time wisely. [00:16] trust me i dont just need the expensive piece of paper [00:16] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:16] oh? [00:16] the expensive piece of paper is all you need. [00:16] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-137-69.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] ever [00:16] period [00:16] since when? [00:16] We just hired a guy with a B.S. degree.. entry level support is all he qualified for ;) [00:16] dale_802491 (n=dale_802@97.100.118.191) joined ##slackware. [00:17] terinjokes (n=terin@wikinews/Terinjokes) joined ##slackware. [00:17] and I ONly have an A.S. degree.. [00:17] :D [00:17] but my experience outweights any degree/certification [00:17] You have two choices [00:17] Action: andarius has about 90 something degrees, F :o [00:17] i'm installing slack, should I do the normal 3 partitions (swap, /boot, and /) [00:17] we just fired a guy with a masters that didnt know anything , he kept asking what /proc was and didnt understand unix filesystem layout [00:17] terinjokes: I would use (in order) /boot, /, /swap, /home [00:17] psyber: that's sad [00:18] terinjokes: you could just use / and a swap [00:18] 1) Be born 15 years earlier and grandfather your way in because someone hired you based on a 'gut feeling' or whatever back when you were a rookie. 2) Go get a piece of a paper so that they don't hire that other guy that has one. [00:18] using a /home is wise though [00:18] psyber: i'm a freshmen, and although i sound stupid right now, at least I know how to use Linux (and what /proc is) [00:18] andarius: true, but when I upgrade, I want to keep /home from getting wiped [00:18] alisonken1home: second line :P [00:18] andarius: caught it just as I hit :) [00:19] gonzalo (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:19] alisonken1home: You need beer [00:19] alisonken1home: i've always tended to backup what I wanted and do a fresh install [00:19] you pay atetention better to your typing with beer [00:19] terinjokes : where do you go to school ? [00:19] psyber: University of Florida [00:19] Gators? [00:19] you can keep /home even through a fresh install if it is its own partition [00:19] Action: hiptobecubic just arrived in gainesville a few hours ago [00:20] so no need to back it up for such a reason. though backups are always wise [00:20] andarius: yeah, but I manage to get so much junk... [00:20] Also, %$@# the Gators. [00:20] me too, however drives are cheap :) [00:20] Dominian: Fightin' Gators [00:20] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:20] always a good idea to keep home separate [00:20] hiptobecubic: to each his (or hers) own [00:20] Action: Dominian nods [00:20] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Success [00:21] one last question, how big should I make boot [00:21] I store nothing on my laptop.. so I just do a / and swap on my laptop [00:21] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] Action: MLanden yells Go 'Noles and ducks [00:21] all right, firefox 2.0.0.20 seams to work [00:21] now i'm happy ! [00:21] terinjokes, depends on what you plan on doing with it [00:21] er [00:21] pireau: you mean thunderbird? [00:21] no, firefox. [00:21] terinjokes, it only needs to be big enough to hold your kernel and config, no? [00:21] firefox 2.0.0.20 ... [00:21] antiwire: PAM-1.1.0 and the others to go along with it built just fine. Upgrade complete. :) [00:21] i just installed the package for mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.10 [00:21] yes Dominian [00:22] the old one. [00:22] Why are you runnin.. that? [00:22] Hakudoshi (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:22] Nick change: gonzalo -> weedtripper [00:22] because i like it ? [00:22] makes sense [00:22] indeed, [00:22] hiptobecubic: yea, i guess. It's going to but mainly Linux (with Win7 on a separate disk, and likely loaded in VirtualBox) [00:22] pireau: go ahead and download mozilla suite then ;) [00:22] haha [00:23] doesn't 2.0.0.10 have at least a couple security issues that have been patched in later 2.0.0.* versions? [00:23] it's .20 antiwire. [00:23] i don't care all that much for 3.5 [00:23] hiptobecubic: it's been years since I've installed Linux on an x86 machine, hence why I sound a bit lost and confused [00:23] pireau: ok, but you just said you had installed .10 [00:24] probably typo [00:24] oops [00:24] yes, typo. [00:24] talso (n=talso@S01060030542b92b7.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware. [00:26] Action: psyber happy dance just figured out how to control my usb missle launcher in linux [00:26] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.77.123.73) joined ##slackware. [00:27] nice! [00:27] dr3mro_ (n=dr3mro@41.191.13.18) joined ##slackware. [00:27] yeah i built an lirc compatible remote & got it working to change my songs..was really cool :) [00:28] * ir receiever [00:28] now to connect it to my server with a web cam and control them all through a web interface [00:28] psyber: one of these http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/8a0f/ [00:28] this is my lspci http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264145/ i can't startx it says no screens found can any one help [00:29] Mlanden : yeah that one right there [00:29] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) left ##slackware. [00:29] psyber: sweet.fire away...:D [00:29] http://lukecole.name/usb_missile_launcher.php [00:30] can i get a estimate of what I should make my /boot? [00:30] dale_802491 (n=dale_802@97.100.118.191) left irc: "Leaving" [00:31] 50 ~100 megs [00:31] thanks [00:31] is that MB or MiB ;) [00:31] one can get away with much less but why be stingy... [00:31] andarius: small disk sizes? [00:31] Nick change: weedtripper -> gonzalo [00:31] this is my lspci http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264145/ i can't startx it says no screens found can any one help [00:31] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.104.145) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:32] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] do you have the ati driver installed ? [00:32] terinjokes: if you are working with a disk where megs count... you should know what you are doing and would not have to ask [00:32] dr3mro_: which version of slackware? [00:32] http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx [00:32] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-11-68.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:32] also a seperate /boot is not required for most installs [00:32] psyber: I am messing around with the radeon driver atm.. [00:33] andarius: i've always had to do it, so it's just something I'm used to doing [00:33] dr3mro_ : can you also paste the exact error in here ? [00:33] a seperate /boot has not been required for a LONG time, except when encrypting [00:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [00:33] not saying it is bad or good, just noting not required [00:33] or if your using ext4 on the home filesystem [00:34] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [00:34] psyber: "no screens found" is pretty specific to x :) [00:34] Action: andarius is not going to use ext4 so has no idea. though i dont see an FS dictating the partition requirements [00:35] better for desktop ext4? [00:35] psyber: uhm what? 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[00:39] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) got netsplit. [00:39] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. [00:39] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) got netsplit. [00:39] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) got netsplit. [00:39] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [00:39] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-152.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. [00:39] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-22-143.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) got netsplit. [00:39] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-26-213-48.tbaytel.net) got netsplit. [00:39] _ohm (n=research@wod29034RN.rh.ncsu.edu) got netsplit. [00:39] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) got netsplit. [00:39] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) got netsplit. [00:39] sQuEE (n=narya@201.253.212.242) got netsplit. [00:39] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) got netsplit. [00:39] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) got netsplit. [00:39] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) got netsplit. [00:39] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) got netsplit. [00:39] JAJMaster (n=me@nat.pro-clean.biz) got netsplit. [00:39] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) got netsplit. [00:39] jescis (n=jescis@98.93.72.179) got netsplit. [00:39] draeath (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) got netsplit. [00:39] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-168-78-251.socal.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [00:39] alienBlurb (i=3351@64.57.102.36) got netsplit. [00:39] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) got netsplit. [00:39] IrquiM (n=irquim@81.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) got netsplit. [00:39] NETQUAKE !!!!! [00:40] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-168-78-251.socal.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) returned to ##slackware. 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[00:41] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] smed (n=smed@ool-45730036.dyn.optonline.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] welanx1 (n=welanx@74-44-49-80.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@bender.elementalit.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.17) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] jigp (i=allan@ti500720a080-1406.bb.online.no) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-170-159.dynamic.hinet.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-78-54.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-169.nrflva.east.verizon.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.15) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] korg815 (n=user@bas8-london14-1176471388.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:41] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.95.2) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] livebrain (n=200mg@87-196-234-31.net.novis.pt) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] SlackWeird (n=slackwar@unaffiliated/slackwared) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] cuba33ci_ (i=cuba33ci@118-160-174-71.dynamic.hinet.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) returned to ##slackware. [00:41] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [00:41] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. 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[00:42] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-170-159.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [00:42] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] terinjokes (n=terin@wikinews/Terinjokes) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-141-6.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] _theradar (n=hjhayes@adsl-223-47-29.aep.bellsouth.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] Grinch (n=Gr1nch@74-42-112-24.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] winter (n=q3@game.satkol.pl) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] vbatts (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] jdog (i=jdog@j4son.org) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@63.162.10.108) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] dramz (n=dramz@174.81-166-32.customer.lyse.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] my god.... it's full of stars [00:42] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) returned to ##slackware. [00:42] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) returned to ##slackware. 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[00:43] sp (i=sp@xmission.xmission.com) returned to ##slackware. [00:43] wow , didnt know mentioning ext4 and grub would do that [00:43] Action: psyber going to sit quiet in the corner now [00:43] psyber: sorry, my fault [00:43] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:43] you had to mention windows 7 didnt you :-) [00:43] geez.. i feel like such a noob right now - is there a slackware source FTP server out there? [00:43] psyber: i'm sorry [00:43] Action: terinjokes goes and sits in another corner [00:43] hehe. [00:43] Action: BP{k} & [00:43] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:43] Nick change: antiwire -> Guest84397 [00:44] terinjokes: any ftp server/mirror carrying the slackware-tree yes. [00:44] BP{k}: yeah, i'm trying to find one [00:45] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [00:45] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/source/ [00:45] http://slackware.com/getslack/ [00:45] the UF mirror doesn't carry much other than Ubuntu and Suse... and the Georgia Tech mirror is down [00:45] does KDE4 crash a lot for anyone else? [00:46] ah, the slackware_source directory [00:46] GA Tech is a fast mirror for me when it is up. though it is usualy behind a bit [00:47] okay gone for real now :) [00:47] laters. [00:47] later BP{k} [00:47] and for whoever was asking about the no screen found error , this is a little old but looks like it will still work http://forums.remote-exploit.org/livecd-support/10171-problem-when-starting-startx-notebook.html [00:47] andarius: over internet2 it's really fast [00:48] ummm [00:48] none of the edu mirrors i can find have the PACKAGES.TXT file... [00:50] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/PACKAGES.TXT [00:50] Gutzmek (n=here@ip174-70-131-136.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:55] feel like yourself,antiwire?...lol [00:55] Nick change: antiwire -> Guest80199 [00:55] (because for some reason Linux has my ethernet controllers backword [00:55] antiwire: gdm and xdm are really nice though. [00:55] hahaha [00:55] identify man, identify. :P [00:55] MLanden: wasn't himself for long. :P [00:55] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [00:56] so it appears,fire|bird [00:56] Nick change: Guest80199 -> antiwire [00:56] antiwire: and, fwiw, your cloak isn't showing. [00:56] it is now [00:56] cloaks don't show until you ID [00:57] oh yeah, that's right. :P [00:57] What the heck, the xfce theme I just got isn't showing up, at all. :/ [00:57] Action: MLanden hands antiwire some peanuts...nothin' like improbabilities...:D [00:57] anyone know of any 64bit iso's for CD of Slack13 ? [00:58] terinjokes: all of that can be changed. look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [00:58] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [00:59] terinjokes: i'll mess with that on the installed system [00:59] antiwire: ^^ [00:59] here is slackware 13 x64 dvd iso's http://slackware.mirrors.easynews.com/linux/slackware/slackware64-13.0-iso/ [00:59] dr3mro_ (n=dr3mro@41.191.13.18) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:00] i can always add package series later, right? [01:00] psyber: no DVD [01:00] i dont see cd's [01:00] psyber: tnx [01:01] only dvds for x64 slackware on any mirror [01:01] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:01] psyber: someone had mentioned that earlier as well, I was just hoping.... [01:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [01:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:02] haha, sweet, I got an email from my isp, they upped the speed to 12Mbps [01:02] from 8 [01:03] I got one that told me they made it slower and are charging more! [01:03] YAY [01:03] j/k [01:03] w00t,fire|bird..what ya goin' to do with that extra 4?....;P [01:03] is there a Net-Install version for 64bit ? [01:03] pr0n [01:04] ml4711: enjoy it. :P [01:04] foureyes779, like pxe? [01:04] argh, MLanden [01:04] i'm sure there is, it's pretty manual though heh [01:04] all good,fire|bird [01:04] pireau (i=1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:04] jeev: something like a minimum install CD, then you download the pkg's you want [01:05] well, completely screwed that up, restarting [01:05] yea i think i did it during beta [01:06] someone had mentioned using -current [01:06] but im stuck on a PC-BSD box right now [01:06] so that isnt an option [01:07] Action: foureyes779 whines and mumbles too himselg [01:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." [01:07] foureyes779, it's easy [01:07] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] Action: foureyes779 tried installing the 32bit version twice [01:07] dint werk [01:08] what didnt work [01:08] jeev: installing the 32bit version twice J/K [01:08] meh, i honestly don't want to look at every one of every program in every package series [01:08] what are you trying to accomplish [01:08] yea terinjokes, it's annoying [01:09] jeev: I want to install the 64bit version of Slack13, on this computer [01:09] I am currently using PC-BSD [01:09] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-169.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:09] so you cant burn and install from cd? net is rqeuired? [01:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [01:09] jeev: no DVD on this system [01:09] foureyes779: usb? [01:09] i see [01:10] are you able to netboot 32bit ? [01:10] agentc0re: ooh, thats a thought [01:10] jeev: dunno if the 32bit version will run on this system [01:10] how could a 32bit version NOT work ? [01:11] isnt it normally the other way around ? [01:11] jeev: im using an AMD64 [01:11] jeev: IDK, i just want a simple Linux system for media [01:11] foureyes779: ..... and? [01:11] media server for my monitor, file server for my subnet [01:11] foureyes779, 32bit is backwards compat dood [01:12] agentc0re: will the 32bit version run on this system ? [01:12] so beer plus no food until wife gets home = early drunkeness. :P [01:12] hmm [01:12] foureyes779: more than likely, yes. [01:12] foureyes779 looks like a really good candidate for a nigerian email scam [01:12] so, I could have wiped this system months ago [01:12] heh [01:12] yep [01:12] jeev: not that you'll see this, but probably. [01:13] well, shazaam [01:13] heh [01:13] lol [01:13] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:13] tnx agentc0re and jeev. you too psyber [01:13] all psyber did was laugh! [01:14] yeah i didnt do much the other 2 did all the work [01:14] psyber: you got the conversation started [01:14] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:14] foureyes779: Well i'd now like to tell you that you've just won my heart. I am suffering from an illness that i will die from. You can have my livings of 1,000,000,000,000,000 USD's. but i need all your bank info to transfer it to. [01:14] ;D [01:14] :P [01:14] well, you were the first one bite at my newbie question [01:14] 11.43 Mbps \o/ :P [01:14] agentc0re: will ya take apost dated check ? [01:15] heh [01:15] foureyes779: just send me routing + checking and pin number and i can :P [01:15] if I hadnt fallen for all those scams, i could'a bought the book !!! [01:15] heh [01:15] hey i got that same email [01:16] lol [01:16] but mine said it was from the royal family [01:16] once a forum said "post what's on your clipboard right now" .. [01:16] psyber: i am the royal family [01:16] so i googled a nigerian email scam [01:16] pasted it and nobody got the joke [01:16] a pretty huge forum with tech guys [01:16] lol [01:16] or the dutch lotter one you've won a million ueos but we had your bank info [01:17] lottery [01:17] and what disease are you dying from ? [01:17] wow Rat409 [01:17] what ?????? [01:17] psyber: aids [01:17] damn typos sorry [01:17] I used to get russian chicks sen dme pics [01:17] haven't had one in a while. One less source of amusement. [01:17] dive: WHoa, i had some lavitta girl do that to me. [01:17] ueros european dollars [01:18] anyone ever rage when someone sends them an email with a 30MB+ file attachment? [01:18] thats almost as good as the whole if you type your root password in it shows as ****** [01:18] Rat409, euros [01:18] had/need thanks,been a long day :( [01:18] Rat409, and by the way I think the dollar is dutch in origin [01:19] but let's not go there ;-) [01:19] ok lol [01:19] antiwire: not anymore.. i limit work emails to 1mb. :P [01:19] Action: agentc0re is the bofh [01:19] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] antiwire, I just telnet in and del [01:19] 1mb emails? is that Novel length? [01:20] Quiznos: FIVE DOLLAR FOOT LONGS! [01:20] ok [01:20] yay [01:20] [song] we're in the money [01:20] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [01:20] [/song] [01:20] Action: jeev puts Quiznos on mute [01:20] wow that can be taken so many ways agentc0re [01:21] Quiznos: WOW! I haven't seen you in years [01:21] Action: dive puts Quiznos on mule [01:21] Quiznos: join the club. i'm on ignore. :D [01:21] yay [01:21] let's dance the dance of fools [01:21] heh [01:21] (i doubt you remember me) [01:21] to whom do you imply? [01:21] Quiznos: you [01:21] i think he remembers his last meal. [01:21] terinjokes your nick has a certain flavor of familiarity [01:21] heh [01:22] terinjokes how ya bin? [01:22] Quiznos: i used to join ##linux late at night, on my Palm TX, and try to keep up with the chatter [01:22] ah kool [01:22] Quiznos: that was like, oh, 2006 [01:22] yea when i was still in Pennsy? [01:23] IDK (Penn State?) [01:23] yea; i'm in fla now [01:23] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:23] the Penn Stat FTP server just banned me (too many connections) [01:23] Quiznos: whereabouts? [01:24] heh; near the Peace r. 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[01:26] sitting* [01:27] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [01:27] where are you from? [01:27] terinjokes i did an install of 13, it's been problemeatic for me [01:27] install or upgrade? [01:27] terinjokes, just end it already [01:27] install it all [01:27] i used to do it one by one too [01:28] it's lame to do that in my opinion unless if you're patient and slow. [01:28] upgrade but i had to back off on x/ [01:28] wouldnt work here [01:28] Quiznos: that's what I'm doing. I normally do Gentoo (but I promised to try Slack out) [01:28] nods [01:28] jeev: that's what i ended up doing [01:28] terinjokes: you can remove emacs. that's fine. [01:28] terinjokes, easier to install all and then later remove stuff you don't to be honsest [01:29] honest* [01:29] ie remove later once the systems up and running [01:29] agentc0re: i removed a number of series... like emacs, TeX, Games, KDE [01:29] i left off emacs and kdei [01:37] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "BitchX: not from concentrate" [01:37] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:39] ping pls? [01:39] Action: Motoko-chan needs to update the servers to 13.0... [01:39] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [01:40] pong [01:40] 0sec [01:41] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:53] no more beans for you jeev [01:54] jeev, been trying to on my blog, though i'm always afraid i've done something in a convoluted & far from best-practices way [01:54] Nick change: dhabyxc -> dhabyx [01:54] haha now i'm angry, after reading the 2nd page of this thread, it tells how to resolve the issues i was struggling with with klibc & v86d [01:54] Action: corte smacks forehead...RTFM! [01:55] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) left irc: Client Quit [01:55] /cl [01:56] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [01:56] hrm..should probably go to sleep now, going on hour 41 of consciousness [01:56] wow [01:57] yeah forgot i had a presentation to put together and a paper to right, therefore, i did not sleep a lick last night :[ [01:57] thats alot of caffeine to stay up that long [01:57] aha, actually more a motivational drive to make my system better :O [01:57] but the problem now is that i've lost all sense of sleepiness [01:57] corte, who cares [01:57] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:58] just log it for others [01:58] jeev, good point, :) [01:59] corte exercise, hot shower, melatonin, warm milk. [01:59] i think a beer should do it ;] [02:00] nop [02:00] corte: what Quiznos is really trying to say is "masturbate" .. he's always been cryptic like that [02:00] ahaha [02:00] heh [02:01] welanx1 (n=welanx@74-44-49-80.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:01] lol [02:01] nite nite boys and girls and Quiznos [02:02] gn [02:02] mmm..sub sandwich [02:02] wow i'm speeshul :) [02:02] this is true [02:02] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-137-69.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:02] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-78-54.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:03] Why are you speeshul? :P [02:03] night guys [02:03] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] he named me :) [02:03] gn terin [02:03] and nite nite fire|bird [02:03] night superGear [02:03] terinjokes (n=terin@wikinews/Terinjokes) left ##slackware. [02:04] Quiznos: you were AND Quiznos, so you're not a boy or girl. :P [02:04] heh [02:04] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:04] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:06] i need to make a really nice proposal [02:06] i dunno how cause im lazy cause i know how but im lazy [02:08] Sorry jeev, while I appreciate the thought, I'm just not interested. I'm married. [02:08] ;) [02:08] lol [02:08] See, I let him down easy. I'm nice sometimes. [02:08] rob0: better s/married/happily married/ :P [02:09] rob0, i'm not interested in you after i saw what you did to elton john.. on camera, in your bathroom [02:09] with a soap on a rope. [02:11] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:11] jeev_ (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [02:11] eh [02:12] sadsfae (n=will@funcamp.net) got netsplit. 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[02:14] psyber: I seen you eyeing the power cord. :) [02:14] Action: psyber steps away from the reset button [02:15] lol [02:15] wow they cant all have earthlink [02:15] lol [02:15] haha [02:16] crosses fingers that my connection stays up for once [02:16] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) returned to ##slackware. [02:16] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.181) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:16] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [02:16] wsp4th (n=wperry@adsl-66-29-239.mem.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes four muscles to extend your a [02:17] These netsplits are joining people on another server that quick either. :P [02:18] acidchild (i=ash@septic.ziwall.net) got lost in the net-split. [02:18] reallove (i=reallove@unaffiliated/reallove) got lost in the net-split. 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[02:19] nepenthe (n=ville@YYKDLXXXV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] pragma_ (n=pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] bhaki (n=bhaki@121.242.77.130) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.23.181) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] omni_sleep (n=omnipote@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] uva (i=bno@118-160-170-159.dynamic.hinet.net) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [02:19] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:19] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:19] where can i find slackware network card pxe HCL? [02:20] what card you have [02:20] just check for linux kernel hcl [02:20] pxe shouldn't matter as long as your card supports it [02:20] antiwire: http://omploader.org/vMjl0eg [02:20] awesome image [02:21] jeev_, I was reading alienbob's tutorial and he says network card (non-wireless) with PXE firmware, supported by "Slackware" not kernel [02:22] hmm [02:22] antiwire: Here's just the image: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/1625/dark_clouds_await.html [02:22] bunbum, not sure.. that may be a mistake [02:22] slackware runs off the linux kernel ;) [02:23] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-nekpshkjvxedttaz) joined ##slackware. [02:23] jeev_, Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E GIGABIT ETHERNET CONTROLLER [02:23] drivers/net/sky2.c: { PCI_DEVICE(PCI_VENDOR_ID_MARVELL, 0x4364) }, /* 88E8056 */ [02:24] looks like it ? [02:24] * New driver for Marvell Yukon 2 chipset. [02:24] * Based on earlier sk98lin, and skge driver. 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[02:26] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:26] wtf!!! [02:26] bunbum, your marvell card is ruining the internet [02:26] artv61_ (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:26] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Connection timed out [02:26] fidesrat1o (n=fidesrat@bender.elementalit.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:26] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:26] jeev_, looooooooooooooooooooool [02:26] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [02:26] IrquiM (n=irquim@81.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:26] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:26] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-22-143.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:26] is 13 the best? [02:26] JAJMaster (n=me@nat.pro-clean.biz) left irc: Success [02:26] xchatter, it's the newest. [02:27] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:27] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-26-213-48.tbaytel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:27] IYO [02:27] xchatter: are you superstitious? :P [02:27] IrquiM (n=irquim@81.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [02:27] whadup [02:27] naw [02:27] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-22-143.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:27] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-26-213-48.tbaytel.net) joined ##slackware. [02:27] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. 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[02:55] name_ (n=name@24.10.164.213) left irc: Client Quit [02:55] alien_bob: a dead link in your wiki,http://tatewake.com/wiki/software:dokuwiki:template:monobook should be--> http://tatewake.com/wiki/projects:monobook_for_dokuwiki [02:55] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [02:56] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [02:56] oahong` (n=user@218.22.80.148) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [02:58] hai slackytude [02:58] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) joined ##slackware. [02:58] y0 nix_chix0r [02:58] whadup [02:58] Action: init[3] pokes slackytude [02:59] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:59] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-169.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:59] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:00] y0 slackers...How's everyone? [03:00] great so far...;) [03:00] not bad chowin on some cookies [03:00] hows the rest of the slackers [03:00] horrible [03:00] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:01] nix_chix0r, fighting with 13 right now [03:01] spook: can a 6ft blonde help? [03:01] no [03:01] Action: init[3] currently reinstalling docuwiki [03:01] i dont like tall women [03:01] spook: damn you are bad [03:01] nix_chix0r, you? [03:01] spook: ill get you a short one then :p [03:02] watching re runs of king of queens or something and eating cookies [03:02] The-Croupier: and a brunette [03:02] yall are bad [03:03] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:03] panzer, how [03:04] slackboy, eh? [03:04] Im trying to get a dual monitor setup working, with nvidia [03:04] Id like to have two seperate X sessions [03:04] spook: ofc m8...!!! [03:05] this works in xfce, but in kde the right monitor just has a X session. its loaded but nothing runs in it [03:05] spook: lol, what do you think i own a brothel?!!! lol [03:05] The-Croupier: dont you? [03:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] oahong (n=user@122.225.61.173) joined ##slackware. [03:07] Nick change: Instain_Atom -> Instained [03:08] Nick change: Instained -> Instained_Atom [03:08] slackytude: xinerama? [03:08] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) left irc: "leaving" [03:09] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) joined ##slackware. [03:09] do I need that, works like a charm in xfce [03:09] y0 slackytude [03:10] slackytude: no....just askin' [03:10] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [03:11] slackytude: Tried nvidia-settings and setting it up that way? [03:11] s0d0 (n=jdr@host81-141-52-205.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:12] morning :) [03:13] hi Camarade_Tux [03:13] ubuntu dropping hal in next version, hmmm [03:13] morning Camarade_Tux [03:13] Morning, Camarade_Tux [03:13] hey Thom1, fire|bird, MLanden :) [03:13] Camarade_Tux, for policy-kit, device-kit, etc ? [03:13] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:14] Thom1: yes [03:14] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [03:14] Camarade_Tux, that's why i don't want hal, and won't want anything else, just xorg alone [03:15] spook: i might ;) [03:15] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [03:15] fire|bird, morning, yes I did [03:15] the second screen is alive, yet no X session is running in it [03:15] slackytude: and no luck? [03:16] and you applied it to xorg, saved the xorg.conf file, and logged out and in? [03:16] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:16] Thom1: after the initial setup (I'm using a propietary graphic driver, with a non en_US keymap and a synaptics touchpad), it's alright [03:16] hibernate/resume is very slow... it it because i have 3GB memroy and 5400rpm hdd :/ i have seen it faster before [03:16] before that, I used to chmod -x rc.hald but I think I can get used to it [03:16] morning slackytude :) [03:17] fire|bird, just got a howto from the guys at #kde [03:17] morning Camarade_Tux [03:17] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:17] oahong (n=user@218.22.80.152) joined ##slackware. [03:17] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Action: Camarade_Tux loves lwn quotes [03:17] slackytude: good luck. :) [03:18] Camarade_Tux, I disable hal in xorg.conf and continue with my good old config but i can't use xorg without hal :( [03:19] fire|bird, you missed my dancing [03:19] nix_chix0r: oh no, what type of dancing this time? [03:20] i did the hammer dance [03:20] nice [03:20] What was the occasion? [03:21] dont work monday [03:21] Action: Camarade_Tux is on holidays [03:21] :) [03:22] great [03:22] there is no support for seperate X sessions in kde [03:22] damn, damn, damn [03:23] slackytude: I was able to do that earlier today in kde4 and nvidia-settings. [03:23] kejen (n=brian@67.202.107.232) joined ##slackware. [03:23] fire|bird, huh? how? [03:24] I used nvidia-settings, chose the second monitor to be Separate X Session, applied, saved to xorg, logged out and back in, and ta da. :) [03:24] Im running that right now^^ [03:24] so i guess i shouldnt feel to bad about dancing to footloose earlier [03:24] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:25] fire|bird, enabled xinerama or something? [03:25] fire|bird, can you see this http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6863/img0024p.jpg [03:25] why do I only get a black screen then [03:25] antiwire, when will you be jumping? [03:25] slackytude: nope, just used nvidia-settings [03:25] oh, hai [03:25] y0 john_dee [03:25] fire|bird, could you paste your xoeg somewhere? [03:26] as soon as I have consistent cash flow [03:26] how much a jump goes for in california? [03:27] slackytude: I could, but I don't have it set up now, the last xorg I have was for twinview. [03:27] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [03:27] lolwut, you are having two seperate X sessions? [03:27] bunbum: 250-300 [03:28] nix_chix0r: yeah, I can. [03:28] Plus cam? [03:28] for cam it's in the upper range [03:28] fire|bird, was that kde 4.2 or 4.3 ? [03:28] slackytude: kde 4.3 [03:28] fire|bird, hrm [03:28] slackytude, yeah a different one on each monitor [03:29] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [03:29] fire|bird, i got that pic emailed to me at work cause hubby had to stay home monday since we didnt have a sitter [03:29] lolwut, both kde? [03:29] you'd grab friend pilot and your own equipment, and pay only for the fuel [03:30] nix_chix0r: cool. Just wait until take child to work day. :P [03:30] gfidente (n=giulivo@93-44-211-0.ip99.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [03:30] slackytude, yeah [03:30] slackytude: here's mine: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/aWvyav75.html [03:31] lolwut, with kde 4.2? [03:31] bunbum: I have a friend who is a commercial pilot and he's leet [03:31] slackytude, yeah :) [03:31] he does bush and chartered flights [03:31] hrm [03:32] i Just did it with the nvidia drivers [03:32] great, remind me never to ask in #kde again [03:33] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [03:33] commmercial ? private one is alright since you just dont jump under IRF [03:33] lol [03:33] Nick change: adeodatus -> axius [03:33] bunbum: he does it all. I'd jump over the dry lake that I go to all the time [03:33] droolproof84 (n=brian@c-76-30-122-72.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:33] we can land on that lake too, it's allowed [03:34] at desert? [03:34] you should jump and land on groom lake [03:34] bunbum: yeah [03:34] $100 if you hit the ground without lead poisoning [03:34] cool [03:35] it's a perfect place http://www.youtube.com/user/antiwire1492#play/uploads/4/h6Uvhl_k2Pw [03:36] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [03:37] great [03:37] hello, does anyone have experience with slack 13.0 with TRAC installed? I'm having trouble getting the rendering of PHP files. I'm getting this error whenever I attempt to view a PHP file in my TRAC install http://pastebin.com/d547e1305. [03:37] testing VM has 256 mb ram [03:37] now I have to go beg for some more [03:37] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:38] antiwire, is that a runway on that cars ride? [03:39] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=37.275214,-115.790234&sll=37.275214,-115.790234&sspn=0.068025,0.154324&ie=UTF8&ll=37.274668,-115.797443&spn=0.068026,0.154324&t=h&z=13 [03:39] look at how nice and flat that dry lake is [03:39] pretty awesome place indeed [03:39] perfect landing zone! [03:39] bunbum: in the link I posted or the one titled "desert road" ? [03:39] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-nekpshkjvxedttaz) left irc: "Page closed" [03:39] how to add an user to sudoers finle on slackware? [03:39] visudo is one way [03:40] bunbum: the link I posted is just us doing 110 down the center [03:40] antiwire, across the dry lake [03:40] bunbum: yeah that's just hauling ass down the center [03:40] you can land a plane anywhere you want there [03:41] that a dream then [03:41] mancha: and [03:41] What we do sometimes is setup camp and tell our pilot friends out gps coords and they come for lunch [03:41] and? [03:41] and then you type "man sudoers" to learn how to make an entry do what you want it to do. [03:42] mancha: thanks [03:42] np [03:42] no and then! [03:42] this is the only time I've worn a chute and stayed inside the plane http://www.youtube.com/user/antiwire1492#play/uploads/7/KBvBuQxp5jk [03:43] Mithenks (n=eymerich@host117-16-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:44] SiegeX, indeed flat, the antiwire's videos show that.... looks like a smooth carpet [03:45] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:45] I love going out there [03:45] you can go buck wild [03:47] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-169.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [03:48] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [03:54] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." [03:56] antiwire, I heard you going whoa!! after the engine went dead... what was that? [03:57] bunbum: we were aiming straight down in a negative g dive [03:57] then when you pull up it goes really +g on you [03:57] he could go further [03:58] we had plenty of room to fall longer yeah [03:58] how can i send enter key in script [03:58] on that day i lasted for 3 of those dives and probably 4 loops [03:58] bnhashmi: echo $'\n' [03:59] it will work for bash script also [03:59] tias [04:00] the pilot is used to that force but i don't do that crap all the time, it's fatiguing and eventually i lost it ;) [04:00] bunbum: heh, was making a small joke. That google map is of groom lake, AKA area 51 =) [04:01] to put it into perspective, the loops we did in that aerobatic were probably ~3-4 times bigger than the loops in any roller coaster [04:01] it's fscking powerful [04:02] the barrel rolls are the easiest to handle since you hardly even feel them, the only real sensation you get from those is the visual [04:02] which group I need to belong in order to write any file? as normal user! [04:02] G-LOC or GTFO! [04:02] depends on the file axius [04:03] Nick change: alien_bob -> alienBOB [04:04] I need to write to irssi config to save channels. [04:05] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:05] I have a problem loading the vmlinuz-generic-2.6.29.6 it says kernel panic :/ [04:05] antiwire, imagine vertical blaste like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUdt6ZSWUsI [04:06] josefig: sounds like an initrd problem. did you read /boot/README.initrd ? [04:06] SiegeX:thanks [04:06] SiegeX, yes [04:07] axius (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) left irc: "leaving" [04:07] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) joined ##slackware. [04:08] droolproof84 (n=brian@c-76-30-122-72.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [04:09] Reav___ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [04:11] bnhashmi: actually, in your case just 'echo' is good enough [04:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:11] When I want to add a channel to autoconnect i get this message:Couldn't save configuration file: Permission denied. What should I to fix that problem? [04:13] what are the permissions of the file? [04:13] if you don't care about the possibility of other users writing/deleting that file. then chmod o+w /path/to/file [04:13] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:13] SiegeX: maniac! [04:13] if you do, then make the file owned by the process running whatever is trying to write to it [04:15] SiegeX: thanks [04:19] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [04:20] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:21] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [04:22] ghetto (n=ghetto@78.166.132.182) joined ##slackware. [04:22] hi [04:22] help pls [04:22] how to change ~/.irssi/config to belong to a normal user? [04:23] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:23] how to install vicd for slackware 13 ? [04:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [04:24] bunbum: which server are you on? [04:24] ghetto , do you mean wicd ? [04:25] antiwire, what do you mean? [04:25] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:25] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:25] psyber, yes wicd [04:25] slackpkg install wicd [04:26] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:26] thats the easiest way , just make sure you select a mirror in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [04:27] make sure you select a mirror for slackware 13 and make sure its for the correct arch ie x86 is up top and x64 is down near the bottom [04:27] thank you psyber [04:28] np [04:30] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [04:30] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:31] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [04:31] Hey guys, what is the safest way to upgrade to slackware 13? I have a work laptop that i need to upgrade and use tommorow in work, but i don't want to risk loosing everything (obviously backup) but i don't have the time to reconfigure stuff.. is there a way to just upgrade system stuff ? [04:32] Nick change: jigp_ -> jigp [04:32] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) left irc: "leaving" [04:32] MrDusty: Follow the documentation [04:32] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) joined ##slackware. [04:33] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:33] It is all laid out clearly in the README* files on the 13.0 mirrors and cd/dvd media [04:34] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Client Quit [04:34] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [04:34] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:35] ghetto (n=ghetto@78.166.132.182) left irc: "Leaving" [04:38] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-139.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Fslacker (n=root@41.232.170.178) joined ##slackware. [04:39] hi [04:40] every time I try to change my hostname I got my slack freezing ?! [04:40] any suggestions ? , slack13 ? [04:40] how are you trying to change your hostname? [04:40] how are you trying to change your hostname and is this on a server or desktop ? [04:40] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [04:41] antiwire beat me to it [04:41] it's desktop [04:41] `hostname` newhostname [04:41] mancha, welcome to slackware channel [04:42] try doing netconfig and enter the hostname there [04:42] see if it does the same thing [04:42] Fslacker: First, edit /etc/HOSTNAME instead. second, why are you using ` ` around the command? [04:42] slackware logo as a tattoo, y/n? [04:43] yes do it spook [04:43] spook: yes, on your face [04:43] i was thinking torso [04:43] lol, I don't put ` ` I just wanna to be clear for you that it a command . [04:43] I'm trying netconfig now after edited /etc/hostname [04:43] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:43] well that doesn't make it clearer, it actually makes it more confusing based on the format you used [04:44] spook , going for just the S or the logo with tux ? [04:44] Fslacker: `hostname newhostname` makes more sense [04:45] antiwire, OK man not a big deal . [04:46] why just hostname command doesen't work ? [04:46] Fslacker: it works fine here [04:46] slackware13 ? [04:46] yes [04:47] bunbum (n=server@189.82.97.62) left irc: "Leaving" [04:47] hummmm [04:47] psyber: not sure [04:47] hostname newhost ,, doesnt that just change it until a reboot ? or am i mistaken ? [04:48] psyber: yes, which is why i told him to do it properly [04:48] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.77.123.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:48] ok cool thats what i thought wasnt sure if i was thinking of the wrong command because i am tired [04:49] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:49] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] wow , just when you think your having a bad day it could be alot worse : http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/specials/weirdflorida/blog/2009/09/man_loses_his_organ_after_impl.html [04:52] Hermann (n=Hermannn@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:53] Fslacker (n=root@41.232.170.178) left irc: "Leaving" [04:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433596.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[05:06] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:09] how's 13 holding up for you folks? enjoying it? [05:09] uair9 (n=uair9@93.68.117.5) joined ##slackware. [05:09] jdog (i=jdog@j4son.org) left irc: Client Quit [05:09] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) left irc: "leaving" [05:09] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) joined ##slackware. [05:10] uair9 (n=uair9@93.68.117.5) left ##slackware ("sic - 250 LOC are too much!"). [05:10] 13 ? Like it love it Hate IT [05:11] hate IT [05:11] oh yes [05:11] so for you it causes a collage of emotions, interesting. [05:12] actually i am pretty impressed, but there are quite some bugs in setting it up [05:12] i havent tried it yet [05:12] bugs or just some growing pains? [05:12] mix of both. KDE feels not quite ready yet [05:12] I like it actually [05:12] pfft.. [05:13] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-140-183-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:13] which desktop environment in linux is "ready", really? [05:13] but if your used to kde3.5 and going to 4.2 thats a big jump and quite a few differences [05:13] So what do think about KDE 4 ? [05:13] most problems are with kd34software like amarok, k3b and stuff. but it will be good with kde4.3.x [05:13] im still on KDE 3.5 [05:13] to rap it up: kde4 very nice [05:13] ah ok, so the main point is k-apps not catching up to kde4.2 yet? [05:14] but thats not really a slackware issue per say.. more general kde problem [05:14] yep, some packages are still quite buggy [05:14] slack system : rock solid [05:15] anyopne having issues with nvidia or ati drivers ? [05:15] no problems with kde4 on slackware , cant say the same for other distro's [05:16] tried kubuntu 9.04 : lasted about 1 hour on my laptop :) [05:16] what didn't you like about kubuntu? [05:16] why do I still even try kubuntu ??? [05:17] kapckage manager is well intented but not very powerfull. apt-get still best option [05:17] got quite some trouble with ati drivers, wacom and xorg [05:17] I agree with you [05:17] phal (n=phal@85-125-45-27.static.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined ##slackware. [05:17] you can apt-get on kubuntu right? that's a backbone debian staple [05:17] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.23.181) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:18] yep can do [05:18] configuration : no thats is an issue some times with kubuntu. no idea how they link dependencies [05:18] Even aptitude is much more useful tha Kpackage on Kubuntu [05:18] oh yeah notto mention dep hell [05:18] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:19] spent 1 hour repairing mplayer [05:19] that's the one hour it lasted on your laptop? [05:19] 1 hour also to configure the WiFi card [05:19] :> [05:20] yep. i uninstalled a codec, and suddenly all went wrong [05:20] i used to have ubuntu on my workstation at the office [05:20] phew.. im so happy i got rid of it [05:20] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:20] re=installed backwards, but then dep override, version issues .... [05:20] well i just installed kubuntu to check out KDE4 [05:20] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.8) joined ##slackware. [05:21] kubuntu has a lot of k packages already compiled, and I just wanted to check them out [05:21] laule https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/355155?comments=all [05:21] oh not to mention my special frind of ubuntu, updates ! [05:21] out of all the distros i have tried i am happiest with slackware , i used to use ubuntu or fedora [05:22] how many updates can ubuntu have. every day, new updates. mhh either the packs are rushed or theses guys are paranoid [05:22] but I used to be slack, I am slack, and I will be slack tomorrow :) [05:22] mr-S : the biggest problem with ubuntu is they build from debian stable [05:23] i mean debian unstable [05:23] totally agree, even Mint has sorted out things better [05:23] not stable that wouldnt be so bad [05:23] i alwas thought that Mint is what ubuntu should be [05:24] that and can anyone explain why not having a root account in ubuntu is a good thing ? [05:24] Ubuntu is the best all time linux distro!! [05:24] still have not figuerd that out, not to mention that a user can sudo almost everything [05:24] psyber, oh their sudo setup? [05:24] sudo su - [05:24] ubuntu was okay for me, while i tried it. when i went onto unstable, though, it stopped asking me for any password after after two months... [05:25] right but the fact that the regular user can run things as root is a bad idea [05:25] the thing i do like about ubuntu is the amount of ready packages. Amazing, but still dep hell in the making [05:26] that and what yesyes said he isnt the first person i have heard that from , now ubuntu is good for some but the deps for some packages are crazy [05:26] but as I do have an ati xpress200m on my laptop, even slackware 13 is not an option. Need dual monitor setup and hardware acc [05:27] so its 13 for my desktop only :( [05:27] i gave my wife ubuntu after she killed her windows install with viruses and didnt have the restore disk so ubuntu worked for her [05:28] antivir didn't work? (dumb question i know....there's no such thing as a truly effective one of those) [05:29] * need coffee brb [05:29] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [05:29] she liked to open every email killed the whole system32 folder [05:29] too bad for any antivirus to fix [05:30] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:30] I had been using kde4 since it showed up in -current and today I switch to xdm and xfce [05:30] i really have no problem with ubuntu, as limited as my experience is. it's simply that it doesn't keep to the KISS principle. and that decreases its flexibility, for "power users", anyway. [05:30] i have been playing with xfce ... very nice [05:31] anyone know of any software to open .rar files [05:31] unrar [05:31] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) left irc: "leaving" [05:31] check out slackbuild and search for unrar [05:31] cool ty [05:31] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) joined ##slackware. [05:31] yesyes, i think thats a good conclusion, power users are probably gonna be unhappy with ubuntu [05:31] Oh yes [05:32] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-118-200.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:32] thats one of the things that frustrated me , that and the fact that updates broke things that worked [05:32] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:32] oh btw I am very impressed with the kde4 konqueror web browser. Love it [05:33] SiegeX:how i can use for loop with telnet [05:33] konqueror is good :) [05:33] bnhashmi: errrrrrrrrrr [05:33] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-197-12.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:33] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [05:33] slackytude: don't sudo su - ! [05:33] mornin [05:33] slackytude: man suauth ! [05:33] fast stable and plugins actually work. quicktime, mnw, flash and its very fast in rendering [05:33] SiegeX:like i want to login multiple devices and exectute one command on all of them [05:34] morning Quiznos [05:34] hi [05:34] bnhashmi: you might want to look at autoexpect/expect [05:35] any slackbuilds for google chrome or chromium? [05:35] xfce is a great choice if you want a full DE [05:36] siimo do it the old fashioned wy [05:36] way [05:37] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:37] i find chrome for linux still very experimental, and dangerous or am I paranoid ? [05:37] how dangerous? [05:37] firefox on linux is slow for me.. the ui when switching tabs is sometimes too slow [05:38] moks107 (n=shim@82.194.40.195) joined ##slackware. [05:38] siimo deactivate animations [05:38] I would say "what's chrome?" - but we know that it's not part of slackware, so who cares right now [05:38] adn the other fancy crap [05:38] SiegeX: i am using 1 device at one time using telnet successfully but i have like 150 devices my question can i do you telnet [05:38] well its more or less beta status, not so stable and does have security holes [05:38] i was using chrom in windows all the time. but now i'm doing development, as so i'm in firefox. but if i were simply browsing, i'd use chrome most probably, because firefox is slow as hell in windows. [05:38] what will that do? this is 2009 i dont want to de activate anything [05:38] the only slow part in firefox that I find is too many dang sites with animation and flash where they don't need it [05:38] siimo pff [05:38] but windows chrome with wine felt pretty ok [05:39] you say its slow, turn unneeded stuff off [05:39] never tried chrome in linux, though. but if it's much faster than firefox i'd probably switch. [05:39] Nick change: fuzzix_ -> fuzzix [05:39] ive tried chromium and its almost as fast as windows version [05:39] chrome is very fast, not so sure if it can beat konqueror [05:40] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:40] ads, animation, flash, all that stuff is so pointless on so many sites, but it makes ff crawl [05:41] i do not like flash very much [05:41] well due to flash atleast linux users have easy access to streaming video [05:41] mancha use teh addstop add on to block these adds. does help quite a lot [05:41] it wasnt pretty when all sites used windows media back in the days [05:42] yeah, i like adblock-plus [05:42] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [05:42] i made some measuremenst and found that the wmv codec is faster and uses less resoursec than flash or quicktime [05:42] i have a little httpd running here, i've noticed that almost all google ads fail because they dont use a fqdn and try to connect to my httpd [05:43] what about the realplayer codec? that sorta died no? [05:43] of course it will but you gotta set up mplayer or something that still isnt as good as flash in terms of linux support [05:43] i also have an etc/hosts ad blocking file installed [05:43] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:44] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:44] its still out there, but as fasr as i am concerned not a lot in use [05:44] well flash, at least via the adobe/macro official player, is a cpu hog [05:45] some sites are using silverlight and html5 video has failed due to codec disagreements [05:46] as for flash speed; running multiple flash stream; pause what you're not watching [05:46] the stream will be cached [05:46] well i compared flash windows against flash linux and even ehere linux wins in cpu usage and less resources. kind of iraonic [05:46] NetNightmare (n=Giuseppe@217.22.209.248) joined ##slackware. [05:46] ironic i mean [05:46] google wants h264 but that aint free, ogg is free but inefficient due to higher bandwidth requirement for same quality [05:46] if they just opened up their specs, we'd have 10 players to pick from and the top 3 would be great [05:46] if you're a coder, see pause.2; insert at while and for loops in source and compile. [05:46] but that is due to the memory management of linux [05:47] but firefox works slower in linux than windows [05:47] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-119-156.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:47] night all [05:47] as far as i remember the h264 should be free in about a year of 2 [05:47] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-141-6.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:47] no its still several years [05:47] dang :( [05:47] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-139.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:48] and there are not a lot of options. guess flash will be around quite some time [05:48] what is x264 then? [05:48] what about gnash? [05:48] x264 is a free encoder but illegal to use in USA [05:49] illegal? well, i'm not in their jurisdiction [05:49] x264 is illegal to use? [05:49] i'm in Florida! [05:49] illegal in countries that recognise patents [05:49] siimo who told you it was illegal to use? [05:49] usa does have a lot of restrictions. i think this will also have a big inpacked of linux development [05:49] siimo got an url? [05:49] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-118-200.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:49] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [05:50] "impact" [05:50] ( need a new keyboard !!!!! ) [05:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_AVC#Patent_licensing [05:50] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [05:51] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:51] v4nelle_ (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:51] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [05:51] siimo you have to learn to read; that paragraph doesnt say it's illegal to use it where certain patents are upheld [05:52] siimo you should stop teaching error!!! [05:52] Action: MoZes dances [05:52] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.17.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:52] and it's not illegal TO USE [05:52] at all! [05:52] Action: CcSsNET falls over [05:52] hey, i just plugged in a webcam and it is being picked up as the number zero sound card and the actual sound card is index one... how do i swap them around so that the intel sound card is the default? [05:52] yes not illegal if you pay patent fees to MPEG [05:52] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [05:52] NO that's not what it says [05:52] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:53] stop writing about it until you learn to read [05:53] lol [05:53] how about you do some research yourself lol i know what im talking about [05:53] moron. [05:53] the most dangerous people around are those who talk and teach error. [05:54] that section about LGPL patent encumbered code is very poorly written [05:54] siimo, im not going to say ur argument is void but uhm, im pro opensource and i havent seen anything about this ^ [05:54] your from USA, MPEG owns patent for h264, so any implementation needs to pay MPEG royalties.. [05:54] it says vendors are expected to paypatent licsening royalties ... that are used in their products [05:54] that doesnt mean me! [05:54] "expected" [05:54] that's the keu word if its in the legislative act. [05:55] expected != required :) [05:55] keu/key [05:55] right [05:55] it says that coz MPEG can sue you for it [05:55] let em try to sue me; no jurisdiction. [05:55] quiznos where you from? [05:55] im sick of all these american laws, i should move [05:55] lol [05:55] New York; NOT the UNITED STATES (the district of Coumbia) [05:56] o hmm [05:56] they wont go after a end user obviously... why do you think no company will ever use x264, coz they will get their ass sued, same reason chromium wont implement h264 support coz its backed by google and they cant risk it [05:56] CcSsNET there is a difference tween the two names. [05:56] i c [05:56] ty [05:56] seems that the encforcer lost the lawsuit [05:57] who? [05:57] quallcom lost to broadcom [05:57] in what? [05:57] did it just hit the news feeds? [05:57] from that wiki [05:57] k [05:57] no its in that wiki [05:57] nods [05:58] zoran119: usb webcam? [05:58] same reason why slackware does not compile in bytecode interpreter in font rendering... coz apple owns the patent =| [05:58] but that restricts Pat, it doesnt stop us private users from using. [05:58] or compiling [05:58] and yes, fonts look ugly until you do [05:59] thats true i am already using it [05:59] it's the same reason we can grab mplayer essentials* file and install it [05:59] for out private use; not making profit from redistributing "it" [05:59] NetNightmare (n=Giuseppe@217.22.209.248) left irc: Client Quit [05:59] out/our [05:59] techincally its not ok for private use either but they wont go after private users [06:00] tell that to the riaa [06:00] they should [06:00] make an example out of them [06:00] no one is outside the law [06:00] there is no commerce in just saving and reviewing [06:00] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@82.155.195.128) joined ##slackware. [06:00] Action: tewmten starts stockpiling torches and pitch-forks [06:00] all internet activity is download [06:00] NetNightmare (n=Giuseppe@217.22.209.248) joined ##slackware. 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[06:45] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:45] oahong` (n=user@61.152.248.17) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-166-47.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:46] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:46] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] anyone knows a location for digikam packages for kde4 ? [06:49] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-120-158.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:49] mr-S: is outside the law [06:50] argh! [06:50] guys i use Option None on httpd.conf,because i dont want to run symbolicLinks...but apache tell me that i run symbolicLinks...why?these is me conf... http://pastebin.ca/1552523 [06:50] mr-S: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/digikam/ [06:50] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:50] Nick change: oahong` -> oahong [06:51] nice, saves compiling time , thx [06:52] mr-S: bear in mind some packages from the needed ones are part of Slackware 13.0 already [06:53] does kernel have support for those built in card readers in laptop? [06:54] my pcmcia card reader just works fine on mylaptop. [06:54] its not pcmcia.. its built into the laptop =/ [06:54] Action: theblackbox headdesks [06:55] salart (n=salart@g225098064.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [06:55] siimo: in two of my laptops, both mmc readers work fine out of the box [06:56] cool, i guess i better tweak my kernel, i probably didnt enable those drivers [06:57] mike (n=mike@72-24-250-212.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [06:57] Nick change: mike -> Guest47248 [06:57] Nick change: Guest47248 -> multios [07:01] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:05] grouper (n=grouper@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Pumpkins1979 (n=echo@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Pumpkins1979 (n=echo@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:06] multios (n=mike@72-24-250-212.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:07] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:11] anyone else having problems with firefox with kde in slackware 13? [07:11] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [07:12] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Bassist (i=1000@a096.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de) joined ##slackware. [07:15] Hey all, I've set my runlevel to 4 in /etc/inittab, but still get only one virtual terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F6), all the others aren't available [07:15] Why not? [07:16] thats the default i think. but not sure why. [07:17] sahko: It's what I'd expect if I start x11 via "startx", but I don't [07:17] i do and i have 7 vt's available [07:18] anyway like i said, i dont know why [07:18] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [07:19] man inittab for the reason why. [07:19] the basic reasoning is if you wanted terminals, you would stay at 3. since you switched to gui, you must not need terminals - 6 was left due to an issue in how X was originally started, but left in for possible t/s [07:20] alisonken1noc: I get why 6 terminals is more than enough with GUI, in fact, I was on my way to switching 3 off in inittab when realizing that they never existed. So I was a bit confused [07:20] Bassist: however, you can modify /etc/inittab to allow 2-5 as well [07:21] use a different getty [07:21] mingetty for instanc [07:21] ARGH [07:21] I got it [07:21] huh? [07:22] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:22] grouper (n=grouper@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:22] c5:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux [07:22] Runlevel 4 isn't included in all those gettys [07:22] Ok, problem solved [07:22] Thanks :) [07:22] they never are; i always add them to mine file [07:22] I have a question that is kinda off topic... [07:22] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:22] we lov OT [07:22] well i lov it. [07:23] gime [07:23] What if some idiot registers a domain and points it at your server? [07:23] no joz with kde >* [07:23] however, ##slackofftopic is where o/t should be :) [07:23] Short of changing IP's, contacting people to remove it, etc [07:23] kejen complain to the registrar [07:23] sheko: just found out 12,2 specefiec : well lets compile digikam tonight for KDe4 :) [07:23] just the registrar [07:24] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [07:25] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:25] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:25] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:25] kejen anything else? [07:26] isn't there some way to block domain from loading? [07:26] like block the referal [07:26] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Client Quit [07:26] for example, his domain loads, but my page [07:26] on what? you have to tell registrar that the domain has been already assigned and been hijaaked [07:26] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:27] no, it's his domain [07:27] he is just pointing it at my server [07:27] dont wait; send off an email immediately, it doesnt have to be fancy; just tell them what happened. [07:27] that's still wrong [07:27] kejen: better ignore what idiots do in their own dns zone. of course your webserver can discriminate www visitors based on their "Host:" header (look for "virtual hosting") [07:28] kejen you want to block via iptables. [07:28] and be done with it. no fuss, no muss. [07:29] he lacks permission to use your files? [07:32] I'm gone.. Thanks for the help [07:32] Bassist (i=1000@a096.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de) left irc: "Leaving" [07:32] i personally just think it's a rogue A entry [07:32] moks107 (n=shim@82.194.40.195) left irc: Client Quit [07:33] but you don't get to define "rogue" in someone else's zone [07:33] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:35] no joy with kde 4 [07:35] http://www.vinsume.com./ [07:35] that's the real site [07:35] http://e1.xatech.com/ [07:35] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [07:35] the e1 shouldnt be pointing at vinsume.com [07:36] slackytude, how so? [07:36] hoobop, no seperate x sessions with dual monitor in kde [07:37] nVidia hardware/drivers? [07:37] yeppers [07:37] works in xfce [07:37] and you can't pull it off on kde4.x? [07:37] noppers [07:37] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] black X on right monitor [07:37] thats is, a X without anythhing running on it [07:38] hmmm... [07:38] that's no small "bug" [07:38] it no work! I sad [07:38] is this with current or 13? [07:39] 13 [07:39] evo- (n=evo@p4FD299B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:39] could it be an xorg problem? [07:39] who knows? [07:39] indeed [07:39] not really time to debug [07:39] man, that's too bad [07:39] aye [07:40] i'd feel claustrophobic if i were limited to one monitor [07:40] I hate ubuntu [07:40] thats why Im in xfce [07:40] i dont know if i could add a vid card to my box [07:40] yeah, given the choices, i'd ditch kde as well [07:40] although i wouldn't be happy about it [07:41] but i certainly dont have the desk space for another monitor [07:41] cublicle sized desklet [07:41] yeah, the space taken by monitors here is ridiculous [07:41] i'm still using an old 21" trinitron [07:41] mine is 4' x 2.5' [07:42] that's tight [07:42] i think i have a 15" [07:42] yea the cable modem sits under one edge of crt [07:42] on desk [07:43] i have the 21" crt, a 19"LCD, and a newer WA 20" LCD [07:43] i sit outside [07:43] I HATE UBUNTU [07:43] :) [07:43] but i like being able to see the modem led [07:43] putain, tous les paquetages sont pétés [07:43] i went to the mall yesterday; new glossy comp shop opened there. M$ only [07:43] english only [07:43] hmmm, wrong channel, I'll translate [07:44] shit, all their packages are broken [07:44] Putain, x the packages x small? [07:44] everything but the "broken" part made it through [07:44] lol "shit"? [07:44] lol [07:44] languages are funi that way [07:44] what's "poo" in .fr? [07:44] that would have been easier [07:45] merde [07:45] tout les paquetages sont merde [07:45] heh, and the famous book; "Everybody poops" ? [07:45] don't know; i must be behind on my reading... [07:45] heh [07:45] difference between KDE4 and Win95 is zero [07:46] err, similarity [07:46] kde4 and win95? O_o [07:46] Quiznos: shit wasn't the best translation but the meaning was there [07:46] ok [07:46] Quiznos: poo translates to caca/merde [07:46] heh [07:46] languages! :) [07:47] the KDE4 fonts are excessively giant [07:47] "caca" is child vocab [07:47] idears are universal [07:47] well, gotta stup using this ubuntu [07:47] I HATE IT [07:47] slackytude: she's using ubuntu! ='( [07:47] who? [07:48] your lady friend? [07:48] she [07:48] i want a kde5 with 5x5 fonts [07:48] slackytude: she! [07:48] does she have a sister? [07:48] heh [07:48] maxote: or 5^5 :D [07:48] what's her name? Her? [07:48] Quiznos: no >< [07:48] mmm her! [07:48] heh [07:49] :D [07:49] so why the ubuntu run in the first place (not that there's anything necessarily wrong with ubuntu, but what were you looking/hoping for)? [07:49] tommcd (n=tom@c-68-81-102-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:50] guys my apache works well,bue when i do ./rc.httpd stop it tell me [httpd: no process killed] why? [07:50] hoobop: it's a dell mini 9, preinstalled with boobuntu [07:50] back before I got online a few months ago, i'd been buying LinuxPro or the .uk linux magazines with dvd from the bookstore. some of the ditros they put on dvd were pretty good; this computer worked well with almost all of them. [07:50] but bah, I have to stop using that :o [07:51] one thing I discovered tho was that there is apply a "switch"-type implementation of mime/types that workd even in console mode [07:51] i thawt that was pretty neat [07:51] anyone know about that? [07:52] s/apply/apparently/ [07:53] v4nelle they prophetically died expecting your oncoming cmd [07:54] Camarade_Tux, how is the Dell Mini 9?? Does Slack run ok on it?? [07:55] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:55] Camarade_Tux, looking at a review of the mini 9... the hardware looks good [07:55] http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4578 [07:58] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kkorlvqgjftrajrp) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Camarade_Tux: spooksoftware.com:3333/bootchart8.png [08:00] morning [08:00] rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-192-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:01] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:02] geno (n=geno@125-236-175-211.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:03] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:05] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-120-158.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). 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[08:08] tommcd: I'd *LOVE* to know how slack is on it ='( [08:08] because its only going to be useful for old boards, and it will be slooooow [08:08] Camarade_Tux: see that? 22seconds [08:08] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:08] to get a new board I also must get new RAM and CPU [08:08] spook: yeah, I was thinking an SSD disk makes boot really fast [08:08] mingdao: start saving up [08:08] and P/S [08:08] salart (n=salart@g225098064.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [08:08] Camarade_Tux: thats not ssd, thats a virtual machine, on a raid10 array [08:10] spook: I/O is probably wrong then since it's in cache (probably) [08:10] spook: also, udevd is still doing a lot of work [08:10] anyone remember the name of the game you race with a tux... tuxracer :D [08:11] firedix (n=firedix@host9.200-45-61.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:11] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [08:11] Camarade_Tux: dont think it is in cache [08:12] karlmag (n=karlmag@it010246.klientdrift.uib.no) left irc: "leaving" [08:12] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-57-25-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:12] ananthgs (n=ananth@151.193.120.15) joined ##slackware. [08:14] spook: depends [08:15] Camarade_Tux: i can set kvm to explicitly not cache it [08:15] ok, a package in the repo for the dell-mini 9 is fucked [08:15] which means [08:15] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [08:16] tuxracer doesn't install, openbox doesn't install, supertux doesn't install, powertop doesn't install... [08:16] yuck [08:16] means it's slack time? [08:16] spook: ok, good then [08:16] spook: but really, udevd is doing too much, I don't think I've seen that [08:16] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:16] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.77.245) joined ##slackware. [08:16] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:16] and xfce doesn't install either [08:17] does udev keep a useful log? [08:17] NOTHING FUCKING INSTALLS BECAUSE OF A FUCKING BROCKEN PACKAGE [08:17] :) [08:17] spook: dunno [08:17] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left ##slackware. [08:17] what pkg? [08:18] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.77.245) left irc: Client Quit [08:18] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.77.245) joined ##slackware. [08:19] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.77.245) left irc: Client Quit [08:19] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.77.245) joined ##slackware. [08:20] ananthgs (n=ananth@151.193.120.15) left ##slackware. [08:22] 1 [08:22] 0 [08:22] -1 [08:22] any iso of slackware13 without sources [08:23] huh? [08:23] (neg(sqrt(-1))) [08:23] I can convert this computer to slackware but I need to be as fast as possible and don't have any iso right here [08:23] cubert(-1) [08:23] Camarade_Tux: no, but you can make one :> [08:23] Camarade_Tux what are you doin? [08:23] Camarade_Tux: usb installer, then break the rules and point it at an internet mirror [08:24] thrice`: I'm not even sure I can have rsync [08:24] spook: I'd rather avoid setting up the network [08:24] Camarade_Tux: you'd only need a net connection? [08:25] but wifi, I don't know the network and I've never done that [08:25] I'll probably go for the iso [08:25] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:25] I have to check if rsync is available [08:25] Camarade_Tux minimally, you need a/ and n/ to get online to finish net-install. [08:25] copy packages to disc, usb installer, parted shrink the part, install to the free space? [08:25] Quiznos: I need to do everything by tonight [08:26] it's possible [08:26] by this afternoon [08:26] ok [08:26] yeah but I'd avoid the hard things ;) [08:26] Camarade_Tux: whats on the machine right now? [08:26] well stop kbd-boning (jaw-) and get going [08:27] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:31] spook: ubunutu [08:31] Camarade_Tux: download the packages to the machine [08:32] make a usb boot disk, use parted to shrink the ubuntu partition, install to the free space using the packages on the ubuntu partition [08:32] Action: quasar yawns [08:35] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "gtg...thanks guys!" [08:36] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left irc: Connection timed out [08:37] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Reav___ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:38] kornerr (n=kornerr@95.181.3.54) joined ##slackware. [08:39] hi [08:39] is there any way to download a pending package from slackbuilds.org? [08:39] they don't have packages [08:39] they have tarballs of pending slackbuilds [08:39] firedix (n=firedix@host9.200-45-61.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [08:39] slackware packages are for distributing software [08:40] ok, the tarballs [08:40] is there any way? [08:41] generally, no [08:41] generally? [08:41] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [08:41] well, there is no way to 'download' a tarball from 'pending' [08:42] what a pity [08:42] Action: kornerr wants exaile [08:42] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:43] patience :) [08:43] Action: kornerr wants it now [08:44] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kkorlvqgjftrajrp) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:49] kmilanez (n=aluno@201-77-115-25.desktop.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:49] linux is bad for some people mentally speaking [08:49] those who have no patience [08:50] lol [08:50] Nick change: adeodatus -> aigon [08:50] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:50] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:53] kmilanez (n=aluno@201-77-115-25.desktop.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [08:54] speaking of which, my laptop HATES fully encrypted / and trying to hibernate/resume [08:54] I disagree! the only person linux is bad for is Bill Gates! [08:54] Action: SonLightInn shrugs and goes back to the almost-fully-encrypted-hard-drive [08:56] linux wouldn't be bad for bill gates. it might actually be good. [08:57] Action: kornerr suddenly decided to have compiz and cairo-dock [08:57] Action: kornerr wants his xfce look better than kde4 [08:58] tommcd (n=tom@c-68-81-102-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:59] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:59] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:00] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tywskuocscstxdnz) joined ##slackware. [09:01] isnt that so by default? it uses gtk... [09:01] I mean eye candy [09:01] ml4711 (n=morten@0x50a6aad2.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left ##slackware. [09:02] avant window navigator seems to be good for that [09:06] guys is secure to use all these modules which default apache config has? [09:07] btw [09:07] anybody knows how to make opera look good with slack13? [09:07] without qt3 control center the theme is shit [09:07] *kde3 [09:07] and I can't change it [09:09] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:09] why not? [09:09] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:10] xchatter (n=xchatter@59.94.186.149) left irc: Client Quit [09:10] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:10] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [09:11] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving." [09:12] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Client Quit [09:12] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:17] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:17] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host161-163-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:17] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:17] spook: it only has 8GB [09:17] spook: I'm getting everything, I'll do a part install I think [09:18] xfce for now, no kde [09:18] no d/ [09:18] how big is slackware/ (as opposed to source/ ?) [09:19] anyone rememer Thunderbirds the supermarionation puppest from the late 60's? [09:19] giuppy (n=giuppy@82.51.62.129) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:20] Camarade_Tux: 1.8 GiB [09:20] oh, wait, no. That is the whole tree without /source [09:21] pprkut: cool :) [09:21] only /slackware is 1.3 GiB [09:21] pprkut: yeah, that's what I needed actually ;) [09:21] ok :) [09:21] 500MB? :o [09:22] alisonken1noc i do [09:22] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [09:22] amazon dot com has the complete series on 12 dvd's available [09:22] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:22] vkool [09:23] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:23] alisonken1noc i used to imagine making a tube ramp in a line of bushes when i was a kid [09:23] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:23] i was collecting wood when we moved [09:23] lol [09:23] :) [09:24] i was gonna use a go-cart to run the tube [09:24] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:24] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A29E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:25] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:26] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-188-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. 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Too we" [09:41] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:43] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:44] ubuntu soon going away \o/ [09:44] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:44] life sucks [09:44] especially work [09:48] sinsemilla (n=guimaluf@usuarios146.dcc.ufmg.br) joined ##slackware. [09:50] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [09:52] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:53] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [09:53] aigon (n=adeodatu@92.82.77.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:53] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:56] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [09:57] jbjuly (n=joelbrya@203.177.143.137) joined ##slackware. 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[10:03] Hermann (n=Hermannn@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:03] often that's the result of some filesystem not responding, or lack of ability to resolve UIDs/GIDs into usernames/passwords, such as when NIS/LDAP servers disappear [10:03] john_dee : start by running 'ls -la /' [10:04] ananke: well, it's a fresh install. no network. it's been running for no more than 30 minutes [10:04] something is up. start looking [10:04] ananke: well, all dirs seem to be in place [10:06] also, how long is "ages" ? [10:06] at first i thought it could be a borked installation, so i wasted some time to reinstall it to find out that nothing changed :\ [10:06] "ages" is defined as "longer than I want to wait" [10:06] thrice`: 10-15 seconds [10:06] toodiesel (n=toodiese@cpe-071-068-082-019.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] that is definitely not normal [10:07] john_dee : you can try stracing it. [10:07] why does kde always have the timer showing when i click a link to an app that's open that has only one window (like audacious) [10:07] here's the strace if anyone could use it better that me - http://pastebin.ca/1551369 [10:08] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:08] toodiesel : #kde [10:08] ananke: thanks [10:08] atom_fox (n=atom_fox@112.198.158.225) joined ##slackware. [10:08] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:08] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [10:08] john_dee : redo the strace. add '-t' option [10:08] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/session) joined ##slackware. [10:08] well, at least Im not alone with my KDE problem [10:08] otherwise, that strace is useless [10:08] evo- (n=evo@p4FD299B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:09] ananke: lawl %) how could i miss it... [10:10] slackytude: what kde problem? [10:11] oh the timer issue that toodiesel spoke of [10:11] I've never seen that issue personally [10:11] try disabling compiz or even the built-in kde desktop effects if you have them enabled [10:11] Xires012 (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] Xires012 (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:12] hmm, whenever i change workstations, i get the feeling that i forgot to migrate some data [10:12] Dominian, cant get dual monitor working with seperate X. twinview works [10:13] Dominian, same xorg.conf gives me a dual layout in xfce, tho [10:13] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-169-122-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:13] Dominian, and it looks like many have that with 4.2 [10:13] ahhh [10:13] Dominian, sucks :( [10:14] slackytude: twinview doesn't work in conjunction with desktop effects, does it? [10:14] right monitor just black. there is a X session running tho, but no windows or window manager [10:14] mr_patterson, it does, afaik [10:14] tried xrandr manually ? [10:15] don't use krandr, it still doesn't work right with dual monitors [10:15] clear [10:15] thrice`, it doesnt look like a xrandr issue. as I said there is a X running but just nothing inside it [10:15] thrice`, and Im using the nvidia stuff [10:16] diabolix (n=jsoyke@206.210.81.55) joined ##slackware. [10:16] and it sucks [10:17] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.17) joined ##slackware. [10:17] oh, maybe I mis-understood [10:18] nepenthe (n=ville@YYKDLXXXV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Leaving" [10:18] I can even force apps to run there [10:18] but no plasma, just black [10:18] I don't quite understand why, in some distros, xorg.conf is not generated or used. Why is that? [10:18] what you get when you enter X instead of startx [10:19] mr_patterson, xorg can query HAL now for most stuff [10:19] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:19] since x-server 1.5.x, hal is pretty stable and used by most distros [10:19] er, hal support in the x-server * [10:19] slackytude, thrice` : oh [10:20] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [10:21] ilaiho (i=ilaiho@xob.kapsi.fi) left ##slackware. [10:21] ananke: ok. that's "gettimeofday" function that makes it stop for 5 seconds and it's called several times [10:22] oahong (n=user@122.225.61.171) joined ##slackware. [10:23] toodiesel (n=toodiese@cpe-071-068-082-019.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:23] ananke: i can't paste new strace because that machine is offline for now. but you can ctrl-f the function so it highlights to see that it annoyingly sets 5 seconds timeout. the question is why is it trying to resolve time on the net :\ [10:24] and more importantly, how to make it stop >:D [10:24] that's often misleading. you could try strace -t -f, see if it's any child process [10:25] like i said, mc is trying to poll something that's unavailable [10:25] ananke: ok. i will try it with -f now [10:27] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A29E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] hm [10:28] my X server doesn't take my /etc/X11/xorg.conf into account [10:28] or smth is wrong with XkpOptions [10:28] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A29E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:29] I can't switch keyboard layout [10:29] that same config worked fine for previous versions of slack [10:29] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [10:29] yes, x-server uses hal now for input related items; xorg.conf can sometimes conflict [10:29] slackytude: speaking about the nvidia driver -- I use an HDTV as one of my displays and connect it using HDMI, and for some reason or other the HDTV resolution says 1920x1080, but when I look at it, the desktop doesn't fit in the HDTV. Have you encountered anything similar? [10:30] MrDusty (n=dusty@174.37.216.194) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:30] Xires012 (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:30] Xires012 (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:31] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:32] mr_patterson, not really. it worked quite nice for me. and it still odes in xfce [10:33] just kde 4.2 sucls [10:34] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [10:36] thrice`: can you point me to docs? [10:36] where I can configure it [10:36] slackytude: lol. I read that 4.2 came with a bizillion improvements. How unfortunate. :( [10:37] it is [10:37] nepenthe (n=ville@YYMMMDLXIX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:38] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:38] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [10:40] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] I guess I could use twinview [10:41] spectre (n=daventry@mail.img.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:41] nice thing with seperate X sessions is working with rdp [10:41] Count your blessings, for some have no twin to view. :P [10:41] there usually is a rdp session on my right screen. I dont want it to spawn it two screens [10:42] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:43] moks107 (n=shim@77.69.168.131) joined ##slackware. [10:43] argh [10:45] and compiz looks dead, as well [10:49] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:51] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [10:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [10:53] kornerr (n=kornerr@95.181.3.54) left ##slackware. [10:55] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [10:55] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-178-124-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:09] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:09] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Success [11:10] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:10] vbatts: cool - I saw oxygen-icons show up, too ;) [11:10] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [11:13] hello [11:13] is there a way in qmail to require smtp-auth for mail relayed through my mail server, even when the domain is one of my rcpthosts [11:13] i do currently require smtp-auth but when the domain of the recipient is one of my rcpthost entries, it doesn't require the smtp-auth [11:14] then it lets through a blank email with no FROM: header [11:14] You might be better off asking a qmail forum [11:15] spursncowboys (n=family@75.143.150.63) left ##slackware. [11:15] yeah, tried that first naturally :) [11:15] those qmailers are quite the dozers though i tell ya [11:15] Well, most of us in here, don't use qmail.. for a reason :) [11:15] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:16] rainland (i=rainland@nikita.tnnet.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:16] i can respect that [11:16] what's your mta of choice Dominian? [11:17] how do I set up my own email without using any email accounts I had over the internet [11:17] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [11:17] maby on Mutt? [11:17] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] or should I ask for a domain from my Service Provider? [11:18] email accounts you had over the internet? huh? [11:18] atom_fox (n=atom_fox@112.198.158.225) left irc: "Leaving" [11:18] lol [11:20] I'm getting message from xine (in slackware 13) that my user doesn't have rights to use the cdrom/dvd, but my user is member of both cdrom and video groups. Anyone have something like this happen? [11:20] ezrafree: postfix [11:21] I also notice that when mounting /mnt/dvd or /cdrom that what is mounting is /dev/sr0 and this seems different from earlier version operation. is this normal? [11:21] Dominian: ah postfix is what i used before i started using qmail [11:22] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-176-38-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] ezrafree: You should never had switched :) [11:22] wait slack 13 is out? [11:22] hehe [11:22] briareus: haven't used xine in a long time, but perhaps running "xine-check" will give you some answers [11:23] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.20.238) joined ##slackware. [11:23] [ good ] /dev/cdrom points to /dev/sr0 [11:23] [ good ] /dev/dvd points to /dev/sr0 [11:23] that means it's a SATA drive briareus [11:24] [ hint ] Your DVD drive seems not to be attached via ATAPI. [11:24] well, that might be a problem, because as far as I know, this isn't a sata cdrom [11:24] maybe it is, according to cdrecord --scanbus: [11:24] 0,0,0 0) 'ATA ' 'TOSHIBA MK1637GS' 'DL04' Disk [11:25] 3,0,0 300) 'PBDS ' 'DVD+-RW DS-8W1P ' 'BD1B' Removable CD-ROM [11:25] (both same device) [11:25] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) joined ##slackware. [11:27] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [11:27] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [11:27] hmm, I don't really know what to do with this [11:27] why do you need to do anything? [11:27] mplayer and xine cannot play dvds. [11:28] but my vm ubuntu can [11:28] argh.. pastebin ftw [11:28] and my vm of XP can [11:28] fuzzix__ (n=fuzzix@86-42-134-223-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] but my host slackware install cannot [11:28] i wish i had a jacuzzi or steam room [11:28] Quiznos: me too [11:28] nods [11:29] build a sweat lodge [11:29] wish i could but i dont own land yet [11:29] but have you seen the commercial for the electric steam "closet"? [11:29] no [11:29] very intersting personal unit [11:29] 120v iirc [11:30] looks nice too [11:30] wood or wood-looking; glass/plastic. [11:30] electric! [11:30] with wheel too i think [11:30] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [11:31] Noroc! (Hello!) [11:31] Nick change: shik4nt4z4 -> Guest62807 [11:31] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] Nick change: Guest62807 -> shik4nt4z4 [11:33] nyao~~ [11:33] `} [11:33] moks107 (n=shim@77.69.168.131) left ##slackware. [11:33] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-178-124-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Connection timed out [11:34] ah, I think I found a hint to the problem [11:34] pray tell [11:34] I *can* play a raw dvd recording of television, but I cannot play a purchased/rented dvd, I see this message [11:35] Playing dvd://. [11:35] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@24.64.107.189) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [11:35] libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. [11:35] lots of libdvdread messages during playback [11:35] I just put a DVD in /dev/sr0 and opened xine and clicked OK on the setup and clicked the DVD button and It Just Works [11:35] *** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in libdvdread4/nav_read.c:264 *** [11:35] over and over [11:35] yeah, that will make a difference [11:35] (that's on the dvd that I can play) [11:35] Alien Bob has a libdvdcss pkg [11:35] d/l and install [11:35] thanks [11:36] actually just go to his restricted_packages directory and get that MPlayer etc. [11:36] his VLC is nice, too ... check it out [11:36] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-235-186.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [11:36] v4nelle_ (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:37] Hi, does anyone know a site with instructions on how to troubleshoot burning problems on Linux and/or Slackware? [11:37] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:37] Does VLC work well in Slackware 64? [11:37] yes [11:38] which type of burning? CPU? dvd/cd? urination? [11:38] yes VLC works great in Slackware64 [11:38] constant pain and bad drip thrice` [11:38] mingdao: Okay, thanks. :) [11:38] ;) [11:39] He was sprinkled with some holy water, and now his skin is burning? [11:39] thrice`, I think my PC has caught on fire [11:39] witukind: try this one -> http://jengelh.medozas.de/linux/usr_cdrecord.php [11:39] mingdao, thanks [11:40] witukind: that's not exactly troubleshooting, but if you're giving the right commands to begin with .... [11:41] mingdao, I think I do, it used to work, I think I've got a HAL and/or kernel problem [11:41] mingdao: I see bob's libdvdread and libdvdnav, no css. should I just replace the libdvdread? [11:41] witukind: if you state the problem here, some feller might now how to fix 'er right up [11:41] Man-erg (n=meck@93.40.97.124) joined ##slackware. [11:42] briareus: /backup/slackware/restricted_slackbuilds/libdvdcss/ [11:42] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-176-38-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:43] briareus: /backup/slackware/restricted_slackbuilds/libdvdcss/pkg64/12.2/libdvdcss-1.2.10-x86_64-1alien.tgz [11:43] basically it says HAL can't find any CD/DVD burner (I've got one of each), then it reverts to other methods to find them, and finds the CDRW writer, but then it warns that it can get the speed and can't enable DMA. [11:43] that would be the one [11:43] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:43] HAL is tatooed [11:43] that at slackware.org? [11:43] witukind: are you in the plugdev group? [11:43] thrice`: yep of course [11:44] strange; does "lshal" show your device? [11:44] what am I ... Google? [11:45] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.74.74) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Action: witukind is looking [11:45] Action: mingdao hands witukind http://slackware.org.uk/3rd-party/alien/ [11:45] Action: winter issslurkiiing alalll thhhe tiimeesds [11:46] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [11:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.17) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:47] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:47] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:47] v4nelle_ (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:47] Little problem here with k3b [11:47] witukind: what does "ls -l /dev/dvd" output? [11:48] it's broken ganeshix? [11:48] ganeshix: http://jengelh.medozas.de/linux/usr_cdrecord.php [11:48] fixes whatever K3B can't do [11:48] I tried to burn the Slack 13.0 DVD and apparently it burned it, but now the DVD is undetectable. [11:48] the k3b in slackware 13 is pre-alpha software - don't rely on it [11:49] ganeshix: are you burning in a Linux system? [11:49] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:49] mingdao, I'm trying to burn on 12.2 [11:49] I want to install 13.0 [11:49] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:49] then the old k3b will work just fine [11:49] ganeshix: try cdrecord -v -dev=/dev/sr0 slackware64-current-install-dvd.iso [11:49] should :) [11:50] mingdao, tnx [11:50] ganeshix: replace /dev/sr0 with your device and put the path to the iso image [11:50] hmm. this new keyboard is weird [11:50] mingdao, /dev/dvd -> hdd [11:50] which is correct [11:50] no perms witukind ? [11:50] brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 64 2009-09-01 12:31 /dev/hdd [11:50] I'm in the cdrom group [11:50] give the output of the command some feller asks for [11:50] so that shouldn't be a problem [11:50] I'm doing that ;) [11:50] mingdao, can I use the same DVD? [11:51] same as what ganeshix ? [11:51] The one that k3b just messed up? [11:51] http://pastebin.com/d7b1db8ce [11:51] Is it DVD+RW? [11:51] heaumer_ (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [11:52] mingdao, the same rw-dvd I tried to burn but did not burn well. The system does not recognize it now.... is it definitely damaged or can it be used now. [11:52] ? [11:52] The reason I ask is that it is supposed to be rw [11:52] basically it used to work, then at some point it didn't anymore. I thought the drives were dead but I was able to burn from Nero in Windows. [11:52] the only thing that changed were the kernels versions [11:55] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:55] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:56] ganeshix: cdrecord -prcap -atip dev=/dev/sr0 <-- will tell you if your device can handle DVD-RW [11:56] and everything else [11:59] witukind: and what does "ls -l /dev/hdd" output? [11:59] mingdao, this is the output -> http://pastebin.com/m400b3f8e [11:59] brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 64 2009-09-01 12:31 /dev/hdd [12:00] ananke: ping? [12:01] john [12:01] nyao~~ [12:01] Quiznos: ye? [12:01] hi [12:01] Quiznos: whazup :) [12:01] witukind: unless I'm mistaken, that's a hard drive and not a DVD [12:01] nuttin; so whatcha doin in .ru? :) [12:01] travisBORKBORK (n=travis@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:02] My aplay -l lists two devices, but I only want to use one of them. How do i globally set the default sound device to use? [12:02] Quiznos: same shizzle. strugglin with 'em crooked cop...erm...lagging midnight commander :\ [12:02] lol [12:02] mingdao, it's not. I've got two hds, they're hda and hdb, and hdc is a cdrw writer and hdd is dvd writer [12:03] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] witukind: are you using ide-cd? >.> [12:03] travisBORKBORK: list it in /etc/modprobe.d/sound [12:03] I'm not using the "new style" kernel ATA drivers which make hds use /dev/sdXX [12:03] witukind: custom kernel or slackware kernel? [12:03] it's already the only card listed in modprobe.d/sound [12:03] custom kernel [12:04] 2.6 or 2.4? [12:04] but on slackware they don't use it either I know for sure [12:04] heaumer (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:04] Necos, I've got cdrom and ide_cd_mod loaded and the kernel version is 2.6.30.5 [12:04] witukind: dmesg | grep -i 'atapi' [12:05] Quiznos: hehe [12:05] you don't need ide_cd_mod (if they're atapi), just use the scsi modules [12:05] http://pastebin.com/d5728f206 [12:05] Necos, scsi modules aren't deprecated with 2.6? [12:06] all my stuff is SATA now, so i'm not sure (but before i just used scsi) [12:06] but that was early 2.6, like .8 or so [12:07] hum I may have missed something which would explain why it stopped working all of a sudden [12:07] hmm, slack needs lsscsi [12:07] so I should recompile the kernel with the "SCSI emulation layer"? or something else? [12:07] ananke, lsscsi is in ap [12:07] ananke: I second that [12:08] witukind : oh, it's been added? awesome [12:08] yep [12:08] ananke: lsscsi-0.22-x86_64-1 [12:08] Action: ananke missed it on previous releases [12:08] and it shows only my external usb hd, should it show the CD/DVD writers too? [12:09] witukind: what does? [12:09] lsscsi [12:09] how to remove many file with some file extenssion? (bmap) [12:09] witukind: you gotta post the output [12:09] ok [12:09] I thought lssci has been there for awhile [12:10] rm *.bmap [12:10] [0:0:0:0] disk Maxtor Basics Portable 0122 /dev/sda <-- output of lsscsi [12:10] thanks mingdao [12:11] yw adeodatus [12:11] Action: witukind fires up make menuconfig [12:11] hope that doesn't fubar your system [12:11] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:11] ananke: ping? [12:14] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [12:14] john_dee : i'm off for lunch [12:15] Action: ananke kicks off zimbra upgrade first [12:15] ananke: ah, ok [12:16] ananke WATCH OUT [12:16] [troll mode] [12:16] :) [12:16] there has got to be a better way to "menuconfig" [12:16] a nice, sleek cmdline tool !!! yea yea [12:16] that's the ticket! [12:16] ananke: take a look at this one when u have time - http://pastebin.ca/1552736 - child processes are (ones i've noticed) mc and bash [12:16] [/troll] [12:16] tyvm. [12:16] Action: witukind actually has scsi cdrom support... [12:16] :D [12:17] john k [12:17] haha [12:17] :)) [12:17] travisBORKBORK (n=travis@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:17] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ludpwbxyqfikcavq) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:18] Necos, I guess what you were referring to earlier is the 'sg' module? [12:18] witukind: http://pastebin.com/m1b1e3380 [12:18] that's my sata, scsi, and usb in 2.6.30.5 [12:18] sg module, yep [12:18] ymmv [12:18] and your chipset may vary [12:18] i don't get it. how come i'm the one who has this mc cr4p :\ [12:19] mingdao, there's just a small problem I don't have SATA [12:19] eh? i use mc you jackass :P [12:19] john_dee all i saw were approved (naturally associated) apps being exec'd [12:19] Mithenks (n=eymerich@host117-16-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [12:19] I've got regular UDMA133 [12:19] that's why I'm not using libata [12:19] you can still use the the sg modules [12:20] Necos, I've got the sg module and it is currently loaded [12:20] Necos: lucky bastord ^) i can't u insensitive clod [12:20] mingdao: use the "manufcutred by slackware team" one [12:20] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "leaving" [12:21] Quiznos: well, mc starts for 10-15 seconds because it's trying to resolve time. that is wrong ^) [12:21] john_dee heh, where's that line from? i recall it [12:21] anyway [trolling and drunk] [12:21] very [12:21] winter: ? [12:21] Action: nepenthe is planning to get drunk too ... [12:21] john_dee on what line of paste? [12:22] Quiznos: sec [12:22] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:23] hi birf [12:23] bird [12:23] Greetings everyone. :) [12:23] hey fire|bird [12:23] hey Quiznos [12:23] hi [12:23] hey hitest [12:23] :) [12:23] hello [12:24] hi adeodatus [12:24] hi fire|bird [12:24] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-128-218.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] Quiznos: the fun starts at line 355. there's a 5 seconds timeout [12:24] k [12:24] yo fire|bird [12:25] john_dee and why is this signific? [12:25] hey john_dee [12:25] Quiznos: in a "gettimeofday" function [12:25] yea so? [12:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:26] hiptobecubic [12:26] Quiznos: this causes mc to start in 10-15-20 seconds. significant? guess %) [12:26] ? [12:26] ok; it is polling there too [12:26] hi hip [12:26] anyone see hameleers interview in linuxmag? [12:26] not yet [12:27] john_dee are you also reading the src code? [12:27] witukind: you only need CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD for that drive [12:27] Quiznos: nop. that would be useless :\ [12:27] it's not your kernel that's messed up, it's something else [12:28] ok [12:28] alright, i gotta drive over to the other campus to setup some shit... bbl [12:28] hiptobecubic: yep. an excellent interview [12:28] yarvin_ (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [12:28] Cyberlover (n=DepecheM@adsl190-28-142-96.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [12:29] who's Hameleer? [12:29] alienBOB [12:29] k [12:29] mingdao, I've got CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD as a module and it's loaded [12:30] he was mean to me :) [12:30] Were you being silly? [12:30] i dont think so [12:30] He must have :) [12:30] i was helping or querying a guest [12:31] I don't think i've seen him be intentionally unhelpful [12:31] who me? [12:31] alieb [12:31] if i know someth i help; otherwise i'm a pita :) [12:31] mingdao, yes I guess so, maybe HAL or there are bugs with the VIA82Cxx driver [12:31] well not a pita; a pseudo-troll [12:33] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] <|alisonken1churc> somebody have a link to alienBob's interview? [12:33] lwn.net iinm [12:33] <|alisonken1churc> thanks [12:34] i think that was named above [12:34] Action: john_dee wishes he could speak c++ :| [12:34] ken no, not lwn [12:34] http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7502/1.html [12:34] linux-mag [12:34] th mingdao [12:34] |alisonken1churc: http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7502/1.html [12:34] np [12:34] <|alisonken1churc> thanks [12:34] yw [12:35] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:36] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.20.238) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:36] big ass storm clouds above [12:36] it's dark outside [12:36] rain starting [12:37] getin windy too [12:37] yay [12:37] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.40) joined ##slackware. [12:38] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:39] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:40] Quiznos: that is what we call a thunderstorm ... hide under a table or bed [12:40] witukind: you still with us? [12:40] yes [12:40] mmm down in fla. they are speeshul [12:40] witukind: what happens if you issue "mplayer /dev/hdd" in a term? [12:40] mingdao, I don't have mplayer [12:40] yeah, I moved here from Florida [12:40] where? [12:40] P'cola [12:40] lower alabama ;) [12:40] that is fla. [12:41] k [12:41] but last I tried, playing DVDs worked with Xine [12:41] i'm not enjoying myself down here [12:41] witukind: what was the problem? I thought it wouldn't play DVDs [12:41] mingdao, it can do everything, rip CDs with cdparanoia etc... just not burn [12:42] Action: mingdao should have left when irssi said Day changed to 04 Sep 2009 [12:42] witukind: how you trying to burn? [12:42] with cdparanoia though I get errors if I don't disable dma with hdparm -d 0 /dev/hdd [12:42] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A74C84.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] I tried with both cdrecord, cdrdao, xfburn ... [12:42] just a simple thing burn an .iso [12:42] whayfer? [12:42] oh lol [12:43] lol! [12:43] i wasnt even thinking of him [12:43] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.181) joined ##slackware. [12:43] (xfburn is using libburn that's why I mention it) [12:43] <|alisonken1churc> nice interview of Eric. Surprised he's older than I thought (almost my age :) ) [12:43] younger than I [12:44] i'm 2.half years old [12:44] NO CURSING AROUND ME!!! [12:44] :) [12:44] boo [12:44] everybody wang chung tonight [12:44] Action: Quiznos holds up 3fingers [12:44] mingdao, I think it looks like there's something fucked up with the DMA in the VIA driver. [12:44] Action: Quiznos shuffles to WangChung [12:45] I ought to be able to use cdparanoia with DMA and not have my desktop semi-freeze [12:45] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] witukind: run "cdrecord -prcap -atip dev=/dev/hdd" with a blank DVD to see about your drive [12:46] ok [12:46] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.26.34) joined ##slackware. [12:46] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.20.238) joined ##slackware. [12:46] witukind: then run "cdrecord -v -dev=/dev/hdd /path/to/image" [12:47] witukind: did you get that burning link I gave ganeshix ? [12:47] nope [12:47] sorry [12:47] 23:53 < mingdao> ganeshix: http://jengelh.medozas.de/linux/usr_cdrecord.php [12:47] thanks [12:47] yw [12:47] bedtime for bonzo [12:48] it was written in 2004 though, at that time I can assure you CD burning worked for me ;) [12:48] bonzo or bozo? [12:48] :P [12:48] take your pick [12:48] mingdao, yes, and bookmarked it. I'm reading it now. tnx :) [12:48] witukind: same commands work for me today ... to /dev/hda and /dev/sr0 in this box [12:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:50] http://pastebin.com/d1e3d300b [12:52] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] http://pastebin.com/d280bd82c [12:52] here is when I try burning [12:53] cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been skipped. <--- see that line? [12:54] does anyone else have the problem with amarok where when you press pause it just restarts teh song [12:55] nop [12:55] however [12:56] fbxine does that sometimes [12:56] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-57-25-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [12:57] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:58] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:58] how can i make slackbuild build txz instead of tgz? [12:58] makepkg (options) /path/to/filename.txz [12:59] quasar: slackbuild, not makepkg ^) [12:59] how do you think it makes the .tgz/.txz? [13:00] how do birds fly up in the sky? [13:00] quasar: should i edit slackbuild's ${PKGTYPE}? [13:00] they eat a lot of pork, of course [13:01] i guess so [13:01] :) [13:01] john_dee: I've personally never seen ${PKGTYPE} in a slcakbuild, I'd check to see what the makepkg line says.. [13:02] makepkg figures out which package compression type to use dependingon the file extension [13:02] quasar: get off slack 3.5 and install 13 for ... sake %) [13:02] if you are making a package for anything older than slackware 13.0, use .tgz otherwise use txz or tgz - up to you [13:03] <|alisonken1churc> txz preferred [13:03] txz usually is better compression than tgz but the only way to find out is to check the sizes after doing both [13:03] <|alisonken1churc> MoZes: actually, Pat and co. already did - that's why they switched [13:04] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:04] <|alisonken1churc> john_dee: 3.5? you mean there's a 3.5? :) [13:04] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.181) joined ##slackware. [13:05] |alisonken1churc: i still have relic cds :p [13:05] hm, some gamming? [13:06] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:06] oh. [13:06] |alisonken1churc: (hint, MoZes is on the slackware team :> ) [13:06] <|alisonken1churc> dang. guess this means I'll have to retire my SLS floppies ;) [13:06] are they doing ${PKGTYPE:-tgz} for backwards compatibility? o.O [13:07] <|alisonken1churc> thrice`: doh! amazing what hindsight does [13:07] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:07] |alisonken1churc: still no hope, i did a fresh reinstall of 13 (thou i had plans for it) ,still the effects gets disabled [13:08] |alisonken1churc: does it have any thing to do with nvidia ? [13:08] <|alisonken1churc> init[3]: what driver does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say it's using? [13:08] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] So, i think I'm getting hacked, anyone want to talk about it? [13:08] |alisonken1churc: checking,hopefully nvidia binary [13:08] erisco evidence? [13:09] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Quiznos: a letter from my ISP and logs of traffic to/from my pc while i'm fast asleep in my bed. [13:09] via port 22. [13:09] erisco you have IPs? [13:09] that's mail, isnt it? [13:09] no ftp [13:09] ssh [13:09] ok [13:09] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.181) left irc: "Leaving" [13:09] alicephilippa: Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so [13:10] erisco you have IPs? [13:10] |alisonken1churc: Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so [13:10] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tywskuocscstxdnz) left irc: [13:10] what does that mean? [13:10] their addy's [13:10] Nick change: jeev_ -> jeev [13:10] . [13:10] i'm on a lan, i'm 192.168.1.103. wireshark is filtering "tcp.port==22" and can see that more than 2 person is talking to me at night. [13:10] . [13:10] <|alisonken1churc> init[3]: ok - possibly nvidia, then [13:10] it's not your mommy? [13:10] |alisonken1churc: would it confilict if my kernel have nvidia driver ? [13:10] lol [13:10] quisnos: 222.73.177.179 at first only once, then after that it's all 164.164.85.6 [13:11] No, mom doesn't do ssh with India. [13:11] <|alisonken1churc> init[3]: typically, nvidia driver installs an nvidia kernel module as well [13:11] so block em; add to a ssh file or somth [13:11] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:11] mommy surfs in the raw? (unencrypted?) [13:11] lol [13:11] IDK if i want to just block them, it seems too simple [13:11] |alisonken1churc: nvidia_drv.so was installed by nvidia installer [13:11] ok; then open your box and let em in [13:11] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [13:11] i might do something to my router ot make it more difficult for tem, then if the figure it out i'll block them =p [13:12] LOL thakns buddy [13:12] init[3]: How did you install the nvidia driver? [13:12] stop playin with em [13:12] <|alisonken1churc> init[3]: and didn't it say something about getting a kernel module as well? lsmod and see if there's something about an nv kernel module' [13:12] Action: quasar lets people from China and India in all the time without cause for concern :) [13:12] <|alisonken1churc> but it's beginning to sound like a conflict between hal and nvidia [13:12] fire|bird: NV......sh file from then nv site [13:12] init[3]: heh, why didn't you use the drivers at slackbuilds.org? [13:13] quasar: i don't mind if he's using it, but i don't want my ISP to shut me down! [13:13] erisco: do you have any users from China or India? [13:13] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.89.220) joined ##slackware. [13:13] <|alisonken1churc> init[3]: quick test would be create a test user, try setting startup to manually saved sessions, enable effects, save session, then logout/login to test user [13:13] checking now [13:13] |alisonken1churc: nvidia 7089096 34 [13:13] i2c_core 20464 2 nvidia,i2c_viapro [13:13] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] no more ove nv strings in modules [13:14] |alisonken1churc: ok checking that, [13:14] fire|bird: all these year i was doing it this way i had not issues [13:14] <|alisonken1churc> init[3]: so it does compile/install an nvidia kernel module as well [13:14] yes,it does [13:15] <|alisonken1churc> init[3]: all of these years hal and xorg/xfree86 hadn't changed that much either :) [13:15] ooh :D [13:15] <|alisonken1churc> until now [13:15] no i dn't [13:15] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.181) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:15] thanks quasar [13:15] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:16] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:16] I'm in slackware64 but my /usr/lib looks like this. http://dpaste.com/89172/ I didn't look at it after fresh install so i'm not sure if my libs are screwy or not. I have no compat32 stuff installed at all. [13:16] |alisonken1churc: i face this issue only when i save [apply] certain effects ,and logout, that would be that last time i would ever see it, [13:16] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] nxt time i login , it would get disabled [13:17] ok now checking with the test user [13:17] brb [13:17] I want to try the multilib setup, but I want to make sure things are clean first [13:17] gfidente (n=giulivo@93-44-211-0.ip99.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "bye" [13:18] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:18] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [13:19] m314 (n=user@87.63.32.249) joined ##slackware. [13:20] yarvin_ (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left irc: [13:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433596.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:22] lshal says i have no mice; is this unexpected? i have two; wired and usb-wireless [13:22] kernel finds both mice [13:22] hiptobecubic: well, a "grep usr/lib/ /var/log/packages/*" should show you which packages are putting things to /usr/lib/ [13:23] Action: hiptobecubic has been meaning to familiarize himself with /var/log/packages [13:23] mm [13:23] grep usr/lib/ /var/log/packages/* | cut -d : -f 1 | cut -d / -f 5 | uniq [13:23] oh nice, it's a list of all the files [13:23] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] The force is strong with this thrice` guy :P [13:24] just make sure they are all x86_64 packages :> [13:24] ~^%$~ [13:24] Action: winter is still an observer [13:25] observing sux; get involved or die. [13:25] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [13:25] Action: theblackbox dies [13:25] 1 down, 302 to go [13:26] lol [13:26] wow; teh soap girls are showing lots-o-flesh today [13:26] Who would have guessed a sub was so powerful. :/ [13:28] so who can assist with hal? i have mice and hald lies. [13:28] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [13:28] hiya [13:29] eek GOIL [13:29] Action: Quiznos fusses [13:29] so it turns out firefox only crashed ONCE of the many tabs i have now [13:29] dimmerbold_ (i=dimbold@masterarms.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] Action: Quiznos oozes [13:29] Quiznos: this is IRC, they do not exist. [13:29] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@63.162.10.108) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:29] so they improved firefox in 13 [13:29] Nick change: surrealgirl -> missyjane [13:29] sinsemilla (n=guimaluf@usuarios146.dcc.ufmg.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [13:29] Action: MoZes doesn't have ff crashing at all [13:29] Action: jeev would think FOUR times before running anything thrice` said [13:30] <|alisonken1churc> morning missyjane [13:30] guimaluf (n=guimaluf@usuarios146.dcc.ufmg.br) joined ##slackware. [13:30] MoZes, i have, but i have tons of tabs opened usually more than 100 [13:30] oh jeev, you're jealous [13:30] if it aint crashing then you arent using it properly [13:30] Action: missyjane curtsy before |alisonken1churc [13:30] nope [13:30] Nick change: |alisonken1churc -> alisonken1home [13:30] Action: MoZes has about 10 tabs [13:30] jealous that my mother has no diseases, while yours is filthy :\ [13:30] never, yours is trying to give ME diseases [13:30] so i checked to see her mouth isn't infected and it's not, so she's just doing that for me now [13:31] how rude [13:31] thrice`: jeev: I think ##slackofftopic would be better for pissing contest [13:31] :> [13:31] I'm not joining another slackware off-spin, thanks though [13:32] what is the command that lists open files? there's lsof.. but there's another one which i can't recall [13:32] i have a drive that won't unmount [13:32] hiptobecubic: you can use lsof :) [13:32] lsof /path/to/mountpoint or so [13:32] lsof only shows hal.mtab 'using' it [13:33] fuser.. that's it i think [13:33] alisonken1home, i will tell you that 13 improved a LOT, in a lot of things i thought it wouldnt [13:34] kde is faster despite "intense graphic" needs, startup is faster, less things break [13:34] a miracle happened in 13 cause during current i had tons of problems [13:34] <3 xfce [13:34] anyone do for me pls; grep avahi /etc/passwd [13:34] Quiznos, nothing [13:34] Quiznos: should be nothing, since slackware doesn't ship with avahi [13:34] hiptobecubic seems that's a required user for rc.messagebus [13:34] missyjane: that's why it was -current and not -13.0 :) [13:35] Quiznos: according to whom? it most certainly isn't [13:35] Quiznos, how did you get hacked [13:35] when? [13:35] you said you had hack attempts, now you have an unknown user [13:35] avahi is a network daemon [13:35] you probably installed avahi at some point [13:36] or, a gnome project? [13:36] hm [13:36] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [13:36] alisonken1home, true [13:36] jeev avahi is not related to my probs [13:36] ok [13:37] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC300C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:38] jeev rc.messagebus: `unknown user "avahi" in message buf conf file' [13:38] Quiznos: have you ever installed avahi, or gnome? [13:38] i might have avahi in usr/local [13:38] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:38] init[3]: thanks, I changed the tatewake link back to the old (now again working) link [13:38] it's in my src/AV tree [13:39] these are things that generally help when you say "messagebus on slackware requires avahi" :) [13:40] well avahi isnt mentioned in rc.messagebus [13:40] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Client Quit [13:40] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host112-65-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:40] yes, maybe you installed it and it registered with dbus or something? [13:40] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [13:40] hi [13:40] sed -e s/maybe// -e s/\?// [13:41] i'mnot intentionally using/calling any avahi-* apps [13:41] i've gotta read abuot hal and messagebus dbus whatever [13:41] i dunno any of that stuff [13:41] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:41] when i used slackware it edidn't have that stuff [13:41] I'm sure messagebus is at fault though. Just like vsftpd. [13:41] :> [13:41] you're still too invested [13:41] ok bbl [13:41] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [13:41] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-128-218.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:41] s/invested/correct/ [13:41] well, i'm not interested in begging you for details, so i'm going back to work. good luck :) [13:42] you protest too much also [13:42] thrice` just ask a question [13:43] fine thrice` be childish. [13:43] no, it's "being employed" [13:43] Same here. afk again. [13:43] no, you bitched about thinking info is being withheld, it's not. [13:44] I asked if you installed avahi, and you said "maybe" . [13:44] that's usually not a good sign that helping you will be quick [13:44] that was a honest answer which was then amended. what's your problem? [13:44] so, based on you not knowing a thing about your system, I've decided to go back to work [13:44] it was an immediate; then i amended it with a subsequent ansewr [13:44] you got the info; if you wanted more ask another questin [13:45] fine; then ignore me permanently. [13:45] Quiznos, i see why alienBOB was 'mean' to you. [13:46] hiptobecubic i didnt earn this crap [13:46] Quiznos, well it never happens to me :) [13:46] they're just being pissy bc things dont work exactly right here as it does to their knowledge. [13:46] dont compare [13:46] Quiznos, things never just 'don't work' [13:47] you missed rworkman tirade on my complaint about csftp yesterday [13:47] Computers are deterministic [13:47] vsftpd [13:47] hiptobecubic i know that [13:48] Quiznos, so if something isn't working. Something must be different. They way to figure that out is to do a bunch of research on your own and then ask simple questions so that the volunteers in here can help you [13:48] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [13:48] without having to teach you things you could be reading on your own [13:49] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [13:49] if someone (particularly a slackware dev) says "message bus does NOT need avahi". Then messagebus probably doesn't need avahi. Meaning you did something after install. If you dno't keep track of what you do to your computer, it's pretty tough to help you out. [13:50] Quiznos: i'm not trying to be rude; on slackware, dbus does NOT require avahi. so, if yours wants it, it means you did something that made it so. Since you don't seem to know what that is, or what you did to your system, it would mean a ton of poking around, to which I simply don't have time for at the moment [13:50] eddie_grey (n=eddie@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [13:50] Anyone know off-hand what form factor the Dell Dimension 4700 is? Google said "mini tower". Is that the same thing as Mini-ITX ? [13:51] "mini-tower" isn't a motherboard form factor [13:51] mr_patterson: not sure about that particular series but most Dell series come in 3 or 4 varieties. [13:51] Speaking of rude, "they're just being pissy ..." was a rude and ignorant remark. [13:52] it's a description, not a spec... if I had to guess, a Dell mini-tower uses nonstandard everything (can't drop a regular motherboard or power supply in there) [13:52] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.220) joined ##slackware. [13:52] There's a good chance that is indeed the case. [13:53] Urchlay: lol. CNET. http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/dell-dimension-4700-for/1707-3118_7-31292625.html (right hand side) [13:53] hey, does anyone here use cwiid (aka wminput) from slackbuilds.org? 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[13:57] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:57] the whole 10 years I used BitchX, I never once did "/quit" and let it use the default message (I hated them too) [13:57] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-99-139-139-104.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] she's running slack \o/ [13:58] y0 Camarade_Tux [13:58] alienBOB: had a problem with the installer: it didn't create the fstab properly: instead of writing '/dev/sda2', it wrote '(IN USE)' [13:59] Camarade_Tux: 'bout time. threaten to give her win3.x? [13:59] That is a weird one Camarade_Tux [13:59] alienBOB: I booted on usb and mounted an external drive to install from [13:59] yoyo fire|bird [13:59] so nobody's using (or wants to use) a wiimote with slackware? [13:59] rachael (n=nrachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:59] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: "bbl" [14:00] alienBOB: when I come to think about, would it be possible that starting 'setup', quitting it and restarting it after the partition has been selected causes that [14:00] I'm having troubles remembering however =/ [14:00] alisonken1home: a dell mini 9 she just bought, it had ubuntu, slackware+xfce is better :P [14:01] oahong (n=user@218.22.80.150) joined ##slackware. [14:01] btw, 'she' isn't my girlfriend :) [14:02] anyway, one reason I had her migrate was "I don't get ubuntu, I can't help" [14:02] Camarade_Tux, did you strip it down to 5 modules or whatever you have on yours? [14:03] and there is a terrible thing: she couldn't manage to get a file explorer without double-clickin on the bin/trash on the desktop and moving from there [14:03] That is an advantage of Ubuntu: you don't have to understand it. :D [14:03] the terrible thing is *I* couldn't either.... [14:03] Camarade_Tux, alt+f2 nautilus? [14:03] mr_patterson: no that you don't have to, it's that you can't ;) [14:03] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Camarade_Tux: even better :) [14:04] hiptobecubic: that's the other solution but the point is no beginner can find a file explorer ^^ [14:04] hiptobecubic: I didn't have time to strip it ;) [14:04] and the wireless is bcm4312 =/ [14:04] well it doesn't assume you want a file explorer [14:04] it assumes you want to look at some file [14:04] hiptobecubic: she's taking a train to england right now :P [14:04] it uses that 'places' menu [14:04] ehhh [14:05] hiptobecubic: there was nothing :o [14:05] but dell customized it a bit so it could be their fault [14:05] hm [14:05] have you tried any of the 'netbook' ubuntus? my friend is running easypeasy on an eeeeeeeeeeepc [14:05] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:05] also, I discovered SSDs where terrific when it came to boot performance [14:06] hiptobecubic: nah, and I don't intend to ^^ [14:06] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:06] plus with openbox/lxde, you can make something really nice :) [14:06] Camarade_Tux, have you not played with ssd's? With all of the that fiddling you do? [14:07] Camarade_Tux: ;) [14:07] also, I had to have her run as root because I had a few troubles and had no time to sort it [14:07] hiptobecubic: nope, I don't have any SSD here ;) [14:07] yarvin_ (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [14:07] a friend of mine has an eee 1000 and I played with it a bit but I never had time to make it boot very fast ;) [14:07] Camarade_Tux, my lappy here is at around 24s [14:08] for running as root, one reason is I don't use a DE usually and mount devices by hand, 'echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep' to put the computer to sleep..., but still that was annoying =/ [14:08] hiptobecubic: my lappy with HD is under 24s ;) [14:08] I mean regular HD [14:08] Camarade_Tux, what's it at? [14:08] and a *big* sleep in the middle of the boot [14:09] Mine is a 5400 something or another [14:09] *gulp* 5400... [14:09] hiptobecubic: mine is probably a 4500rpm [14:09] ... it sucks [14:09] http://john.bitsurge.net/public/bootcharts/bootchart-eleanor-20090830_192035.png [14:11] hiptobecubic: http://pers.yaxm.org/bootchart/bootchart5.svg [14:11] see the 3s sleep? :D [14:11] Cyberlover (n=DepecheM@adsl190-28-142-96.epm.net.co) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:11] yeah, i got rid of that because i didn't have any usb to wait for [14:11] Action: witukind is wondering if there is any reason why Slackware is not shipping PCRE 7.9 and why UTF-8 is not compiled in the current version it uses... [14:12] firedix (n=firedix@host9.200-45-61.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:12] hiptobecubic: I haven't edited any rc.d file, only used chmod -x ;) [14:12] rachael (n=nrachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:12] i got rid of a few thing in rc.M and the sleep in rc.S [14:13] but there are a lot of modules being loaded for no good reason [14:13] hiptobecubic: the trouble with changing rc.* files is that you lose everything on upgrade (and no, I don't want to diff and do everything) [14:13] yeah [14:13] hiptobecubic: yeah, modprobe doesn't do much here, that saves a lot of time [14:13] alisonken1home: i couldn't find the reason,but other users doest have this problems,rather i found a dirty solution for it,i put up this http://pastebin.com/m73e6f4d1 into my kde startup,i works fine [14:13] I just wanted to see what i could do [14:14] Camarade_Tux: What have you chmod -x so far? [14:14] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@24.64.107.189) joined ##slackware. [14:14] hiptobecubic: I did it once, got it down to 6 or 7 seconds and then had to upgrade/format [14:14] geez [14:14] fire|bird: gtk immodules, pango, gdk something, fc-cache [14:14] I still have ldconfig running I think [14:14] fire|bird: i think that would help to enable the effects [14:14] and... I hate having chmod -x'ed them [14:14] hiptobecubic: ;) [14:15] Camarade_Tux: So, you chmod -x on the individual scripts (or whatever) for those? and left the rc.* files alone? [14:16] fire|bird: that's what I did [14:16] but I'd really prefer to have them run when needed [14:16] init[3]: sometimes it's hard to tell. [14:16] like: if needs_to_run(); then run() else echo wooooo fi [14:16] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Camarade_Tux: Yeah, it'd be nice to have then just run when needed as oppsosed to them running every boot or not running them at all, or trying to remember to run them yourself. [14:17] and I also remove an icon cache for hicolor-icon-theme (slackware creates it on boot, I don't know why) [14:17] and it made the whole icon-cache run [14:17] greetings everyone, how do I mount my /dev/hda through the slackware dvd [14:17] Camarade_Tux: What if you just put them in a cron job, that way they still run, they just don't affect boot time. [14:17] I tried mount /dev/hda but it doesnt work [14:17] jalonso: mkdir /install_dvd [14:18] jalonso: mount /dev/hda /install_dvd [14:18] jalonso: errr, wait [14:18] jalonso: you're booting from the install dvd? if so, you don't need to mount anything by yourself [14:18] alisonken1home: i'm lost i have no other way, according to what i understand , the .kde/share/config/kwinrc file modified by the startup procedure to disable effects,untill startup *Enable=True* [14:18] jalonso: setup will find it by yourself [14:18] For the record, I've *never* been "pissy" with Quiznos. Many of you have *seen* me be pissy, and you know that I've not even been close :) [14:19] Camarade_Tux: well, what happened was that I already installed slackware [14:19] init[3]: other than blowing away _all_ of your user ~/.kde* ~/.qt* and starting with a fresh desktop [14:19] Camarade_Tux: only problem is that I pointed LILO to the wrong partition and I want to re-write lilo.conf [14:19] rworkman: touche' [14:20] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:20] jalonso: you wrote the lilo.conf by yourself? [14:20] Camarade_Tux: no, I want to edit it [14:20] Camarade_Tux: when GRUB loads, I get error 15 [14:20] jalonso: just mount /dev/hda1 /mnt then [14:20] :) , http://pastebin.com/m73e6f4d1 help renable it each time i login ;D [14:20] jalonso: grub or lilo? [14:21] jalonso: nvm (I'm a bit tired) [14:21] init[3]: as long as it works :) [14:21] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.89.220) left irc: Connection timed out [14:21] Camarade_Tux: well, I thought I installed LILO, but when my pc boots I see that GRUB loads (?) dont know why [14:22] jalonso: I have to say I already experienced that [14:22] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: [14:22] Camarade_Tux: should I just re-install? [14:22] Superbaloo (i=FN@80.248.218.170) joined ##slackware. [14:22] have fun - off to bed [14:22] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Damn lagg" [14:22] jalonso: if the lilo.conf seems alright, try that: 'chroot /mnt /sbin/lilo' assuming you have mounted your slackware system on /mnt [14:22] night alisonken1home [14:22] night alisonken1home [14:23] fire|bird: you copied my sentence! :o [14:23] btw there is some problem with installer,it couldn't detect the Root FS (cd) and panic-ed i had to explicitly give *huge.s root=/dev/hdc* to make i work, [14:23] Camarade_Tux: oh ok [14:23] Camarade_Tux: yup, and oddly enough, I copied it before you typed it. I'm good. :D [14:23] jalonso: you should see lines with "Added XXX" [14:23] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl104-205.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:23] fire|bird: you have a time machine, admit it! [14:23] is any one facing problem with SW13 installer? [14:23] Camarade_Tux: alright, you caught me. :P [14:23] rachael (n=nnrachae@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Camarade_Tux: how do I mount my slackware system on /mnt? [14:24] fire|bird: you cheater [14:24] mine installed fine on the laptop. but chat later [14:24] jalonso: just 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt' (assuming your system is /dev/hda1: check with 'fdisk -l') [14:24] init[3]: which problem? [14:24] Camarade_Tux: he has shortcut keys that say "Camerade_Tux future response X" [14:25] alisonken1home: the bastard! :o [14:25] yarvin_ (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left irc: [14:25] Camarade_Tux: It looks like it is [14:25] Camarade_Tux: the installed couldn't find the rootfs the cd/dvd to install [14:25] Camarade_Tux: his new slackware install does not save his selected eyecandy effects on logout for certain effects - but other users don't have the same problem [14:25] and the new problem :) [14:25] s/installed/installer/ [14:25] well, I don't use kde or compiz :) [14:25] I'm gonna do a little more research on 'chroot' command [14:25] Camarade_Tux: I do not cheat, I just set the clock forward now and then. :D [14:26] Camarade_Tux: Thanks for your help Cam! [14:26] jalonso: well, 'fdisk -l' will tell you everything [14:26] alisonken1home: that is ok now , :) , problem is with installer [14:26] fire|bird: hahaha :P [14:26] init[3]: read the next line :) [14:26] nite [14:27] Camarade_Tux: it lists all three of my hard disks [14:27] alisonken1home: :D [14:27] Camarade_Tux: thanks again for all the help [14:27] jalonso: if it runs correctly :) [14:29] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:29] m314 (n=user@87.63.32.249) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.131.33) joined ##slackware. [14:35] its me again [14:36] ah nevermind I'll just re-install :( [14:36] rachael (n=nnrachae@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:37] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [14:38] jalonso: hmmm, can you be a bit more specific on the issue? especially what lilo tells you when it's run [14:39] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.20.238) left irc: Client Quit [14:40] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [14:42] Camarade_Tux: Well what happened was that after I installed slackware and rebooted, Grub began loading..... [14:43] Camarade_Tux: ....and then I got an "error 15" [14:43] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-192-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:43] jalonso: yes, that's expected if lilo didn't install properly [14:44] Camarade_Tux: the only thing that I feel that I did wrong was when I configured LILO in the install, I pointed the boot loader to the '/' partition [14:44] jalonso: now, have you booted on the slackware install cd/dvd again? and mounted your new install? [14:44] jalonso: you didn't use "mbr"? [14:44] Camarade_Tux: *blushes* no [14:44] just boot off the media and reinstall lilo [14:45] Man-erg (n=meck@93.40.97.124) left irc: "leaving" [14:45] antiwire: how do you reinstall lilo? [14:45] MrDusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:45] yeah, boot on the dvd, 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt', 'chroot /mnt /sbin/lilo' [14:45] antiwire: what is the command for that [14:46] Camarade_Tux: I tried doing that but I got a message saying that that file didn't exist [14:46] you could also just set run setup, choose your target partition, choose not to format and then skip down to the configuration options. [14:46] jalonso: file, folder, device, or mountpoint? [14:46] samuelig (n=samuelig@104.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [14:46] rachael (n=nnnracha@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:46] antiwire: I didnt think of that [14:47] Camarade_Tux: file [14:47] thats what it said when i typed mount /dev/hda1 [14:48] jalonso: so it's not /dev/hda1: run fdisk -l, find the partition that corresponds to your slackware system, the proper file/device should be visible [14:48] you didn't tell it to mount it anywhere either [14:48] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:48] jalonso: if you only typed 'mount /dev/hda1', I don't think it'll ever succeeds [14:49] only with an fstab entry that is accessible [14:49] Camarade_Tux: awhat should I have typed? [14:49] and in this case, one is not [14:49] mount /dev/hda1 /mnt [14:50] Camarade_Tux: antiwire: guys its too late I deleted my partitions and I already started a new install [14:50] Camarade_Tux: this time around I'm gonna install lilo on MBR [14:50] why did you let us go through all of that crap? [14:51] antiwire: it was an accident [14:52] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] antiwire: I didnt mean to make you guys go through all that [14:52] antiwire: for noting [14:52] antiwire: my apologies [14:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Camarade_Tux: antiwire: again, guys I apologize for all that I just got a little impatient [14:55] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-99-139-139-104.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:56] I'm not gonna get banned am I? [14:56] jalonso: yes [14:56] deco: I am???? [14:57] jalonso: yep [14:57] deco: no, really [14:57] jalonso: he, certainly not ;) [14:57] lol [14:57] I NEED THIS ROOM! [14:57] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@m490536d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] lol [14:58] y0 deco [14:58] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:58] laterz [14:58] hey fire|bird ! how are you? [14:58] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [14:58] deco: doing great, thanks. you? [14:58] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:58] lol, that was, well, interesting. :P [14:58] fire|bird: same :) [14:59] darn i missed it :P [14:59] He doesn't need this room, he needs slackbook and some patience. :P [14:59] lol :P [14:59] Just a little patience, yeah, yeah. [15:00] sounds like he was trigger happy [15:00] I bet he just didn't read the dialog [15:00] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-uiiqkibfanxmpwea) joined ##slackware. [15:00] dude [15:00] my cat pulled fried chicken out of a box in the garbage [15:00] and PUT it inside my computer [15:01] hahaha [15:01] fire|bird: yay my submisssion got approved http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1678 [15:01] fuck i was asleep 5HRS! [15:01] hahaha [15:01] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:01] and he broke my pipe, bong downpipe and a glass [15:01] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Stop smoking catnip and that won't happen [15:01] never mind the just mass quality of shit he pulled out over the floor [15:01] i hear oregono will do that to people too [15:02] acidchild: hotbox a large jar and put your cat inside. That'll learn him. [15:02] nar, he's been high many times [15:02] acidchild: the cat is thinking 'that should teach him to go to sleep with me awake' [15:02] but chicken bits inside a pc? [15:02] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-192-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] thats narsty [15:02] better than fish :P [15:03] MrDusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] that must have smelled [15:04] his box smells worse [15:06] yarvin_ (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [15:07] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:08] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [15:09] rachael (n=nnnracha@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:11] gbowden (n=gbowden@163.Red-83-45-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] oh, alienBOB on lwn.net :) [15:12] samuelig (n=samuelig@104.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:12] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:12] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:17] acidchild: she was trying to cook it? [15:20] Camarade_Tux: yeah it's a good read :) [15:20] actually alienBO* not on lwn.net but ont another website [15:20] deco: reading now [15:21] very good interview: http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7502/1.html [15:23] thumbs: i fixed my computer [15:23] its no longer at 90c [15:23] :D [15:23] acidchild: awesome. [15:23] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] involed a CPU and fan swapout [15:23] thumbs: you look nothing like my thumbs lol jk [15:23] deco: pardon me? [15:23] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [15:24] thumbs: remember i forgot who was saying that joke ? [15:24] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2960225787_808f8d406a.jpg [15:24] uh, you guys want hot woman zombies not that one sec [15:25] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:25] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:26] notice the 'eos digital' camera strap on her shoulder, while she's holding an ancient slr [15:27] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: "leaving" [15:28] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. 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[15:40] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [15:41] Camarade_Tux: my BCM4306 needed b43-firmware and b43-fwcutter from SBo [15:42] oh, btw, I've had the pleasure to configure a new slackware install on a netbook, while walking in the street ^^ [15:42] Camarade_Tux: according to the kernel menuconfig in 2.6.30.5, which I suppose is very similar, the situation is as fire|bird mentioned, you need b43-fwcutter [15:42] and in the metro/subway ;) [15:42] rg3, fire|bird, ok thanks [15:43] version 3 for legacy and version 4 for the non-legacy driver [15:43] I don't know what the ubuntu that was on the dell mini9 used, I'll have to check it [15:43] it'd be weird it used the previous kernel module which sucked hairy balls [15:43] maybe it actually had ndiswrapper :o [15:43] Camarade_Tux: Ubuntu would have needed the same thing, I tried it. [15:44] fire|bird: X was 1.4.x so I guess everything as pretty old actually [15:44] I was just looking at the dell mini9's yesterday. I can get one through work for a no-interest year loan. works out to like 12 bucks a month [15:44] briareus: the touchpad isn't great [15:44] giuppy (n=giuppy@host161-163-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [15:44] no, 24 bucks a month [15:44] the keyboard is pretty nice but the touchpad, hmmm [15:44] Camarade_Tux: I want to shop around [15:45] i bet a netbook would fly with fluxbox :P [15:45] deco: that's how I roll, baby [15:45] the "buttons" (left/right) don't seem to be separated from the rest of the touchpad which means pressing them can also move the cursor [15:45] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Camarade_Tux: eew [15:46] deco: s/fluxbox/openbox/ :) [15:46] Camarade_Tux: :P [15:46] briareus: it's not exactly that but the effect is that clicking can move the cursor [15:46] ungood [15:47] yeah, fluxbox is so bloated [15:47] is openbox config so much different from flux? (would all my custom themes/configs work?) [15:47] openbox <3 [15:48] no, they wouldn't [15:48] hrm [15:48] anyone seen a good script for toggling an external monitor on a thinkpad t43? I've tried http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Sample_Fn-F7_script but it's not working right. I can see it enables the external monitor, but theres no picture on it. 13.0 x86 ati mobile x300 [15:48] briareus: the conclusion is: try it first [15:48] openbox has an xml menu [15:48] ewwww [15:48] I know what you mean about fluxb v openb, but its funny to see fluxbox called bloated [15:48] but it's ok to use [15:48] (mine is very short) [15:48] TeenGirl- (i=xrayon@41.236.14.117) joined ##slackware. [15:49] hey look a TeenGirl- [15:49] and there is a tool to build one from .desktop files so it's automatic [15:49] openbox is a wm and nothing more ;) [15:49] mag0o: tried 'xrandr'? needs an opensource graphic driver [15:49] a guy over at #sourcemage wrote a cool script called enthrall that when run will build all your wm/de menus at once [15:50] let you config as you go, etc [15:50] the script uses xrandr, so maybe i'll just go through it and see if i can build my own [15:51] using opensource drivers (since ati dropped support for the x300 and their legacy driver wont build on 2.6.29.x [15:51] mag0o: man xrandr and xrandr --help and maybe xrandr --auto [15:51] 'xrandr --auto' should be enough actually ;) [15:52] rachael (n=nnnnrach@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:52] i can see where that enables the monitor then shows VGA-0 connected 1024x768+0+0, but still no picture on the external monitor [15:52] do any of you make custom themes and such for your openbox? [15:53] (I'm wondering how different it is from flux) Think I'll try it [15:53] mag0o: is your desktop background black? [15:53] I've run openbox, I just never customized it [15:54] my menu is [15:54] XTerm [15:54] Firefox [15:54] System [15:54] and that's it :) [15:54] not black, [15:55] what's 'System' [15:55] another menu? [15:55] briareus: a menu, it has "reconfigure openbox" and "exit openbox" [15:55] ah [15:55] you're talking about the netbook now or what [15:56] mag0o: are you sure this driver supports external display or supports the connector you're using? [15:56] mag0o: also, can you try quitting X, plugging the external display, and then starting X? [15:57] I'm guessing we both run most everything from terminals. my fluxbox menu customization consists of about 30 flavors of a/e/wterms, themed/colored/sized/shaded for different backgrounds (and some executing specific apps) [15:57] xradr is a pretty aweoms util :) [15:57] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [15:57] thrice`: yeah I enjoy it [15:57] woah, awesome * [15:57] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A74C84.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] I was fighting my xorg.conf for a while and then I discovered xrandr and It. Just. Worked. [15:58] briareus: which graphic driver? [15:58] I ended up using something like: [15:58] xrandr isn't pretty awesome, it's *definitely* awesome ;) [15:58] nepenthe (n=ville@YYMMMDLXIX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Leaving" [15:58] xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1280x800 --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 -r 60 --pos 1280x0 [15:58] briareus: yeah, I only use terms [15:58] thrice`: yeah i put that in my .xinitrc [15:59] Camarade_Tux: using the radeon driver that ships with 13.0 [15:59] after you plug it in, xrandr -q can show you what's available [15:59] actually thrice` all I need is: xrandr --output VGA --left-of LVDS [16:00] that puts my 22" LCD to the left of my laptop monitor, giving me 2960x1050 resolution [16:00] ah, neat. it detects my rate incorrectly on the VGA, so I set it and the resolution specifically [16:00] Action: Camarade_Tux using nvidia.ko =/ [16:01] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:01] I lose a little bit of digital real estate since my laptop is only x800, but whatever. I could config it for an asymmetrical shape, but its hassle that gains me nothing [16:01] mine is weird, as my laptop is 13.X" @ 1280x800 (wide-screen), and my LCD is an old 18" @ 1280x1024 (not widescreen) [16:01] mag0o: check http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonTV ? [16:01] yeah, my lcd is 16somethingx1050 [16:01] thrice`: http://titanomachy.net/sights/screenshots/screenshot20090118b.png [16:01] i've got a 1440x900 [16:02] do i need the Virtual line in my xorg.conf? [16:02] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:02] grr, silly meetings [16:02] bbiab [16:02] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: "Reconnecting..." [16:02] thanks for the help thus far [16:02] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [16:03] briareus: die die die ! [16:03] ? [16:03] briareus: everybody seem to have a better screen resolution than me ='( [16:03] I can't stand this 1280x800 anymore =/ [16:03] Camarade_Tux: its only when I'm at home, and I'm never at home [16:03] if that helps [16:03] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] briareus: he :p [16:03] xtd8865 (n=xtd8865@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] otherwise, like now, its 1280x800 [16:04] bah, thats nothing. not only have people a better resolution than me, they usually look better as well [16:04] I love my 1280x800 laptop res :) [16:04] briareus: look at http://omploader.org/vMjZuNA ;) [16:04] grrrr.....getting sick of slackware [16:04] and I have to walk uphill to work *and* backwards as well [16:04] thrice`: I like it too, but 2960x1050 is uber my laptop [16:04] jalonso: you should switch [16:04] briareus: I'm forced to run like that because of the lack of space [16:04] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:04] thrice`: I really want slackware to work [16:05] jeeebus [16:05] thrice`: I'm trying to build a reliable server [16:05] well, what doesn't work? [16:05] centos is nice or so I hear [16:05] Action: briareus pukes up in his mouth a bit [16:05] jk [16:05] I keep getting that Error 15 messge on boot up [16:05] thrice: I keep getting that Error 15 messge on boot up [16:06] error 15 [16:06] That doesn't sound like a slackware error [16:06] are you trying to chainload lilo from grub? [16:06] well, by default, Slack only offers lilo as the boot loader [16:06] lilo isn't properly installed [16:07] but I had troubles where lilo wasn't actually installed [16:07] 'chroot /mnt /sbin/lilo' is enough however [16:07] (I mean running it manually) [16:07] hi everyone. I've just switched to slackware64 and have a question. Are the mirrors for slackware13 the same for 32 and 64. I can't see any distinction on the servers. It's just one folder. There are separate folders for current 32 and 64. thanks [16:07] briareus: what is the music player on your screenshot? [16:07] same mirros, different dir on the server [16:08] xtd8865: one is called slackware64, I think [16:08] Camarade_Tux: probably orpheus [16:08] briareus: yeah [16:08] Camarade_Tux: I tweaked the color in its config [16:08] briareus: there was "orpheus" written but I didn't know it was a player [16:08] its usually green/white or something [16:08] I try to do as much in terminals as I can, except for some browsing, and even then links works for me pretty well [16:08] Camarade_Tux: "chroot: cannot execute /sbin/lil: No such file or directory" [16:09] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/ <-32bit http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-13.0/ <-64bit [16:09] jalonso: lilo, not lil [16:09] jalonso, try lilo if lil aint there [16:10] briareus: my music player of choice is mplayer ;p [16:10] Camarade_Tux: slackytude|evil: that was just a typo on my behalf [16:10] OK, thanks - actually on UK blueyonder it's only for 32 - I checked some other UK mirrors and it's fine. Should have checked it before. thanks [16:10] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:10] xtd8865, ^-^ [16:10] jalonso, did you mount /mnt ? [16:11] slackware.no should be pretty fast too, I don't know where osuosl.org is located [16:11] slackytude|evil: no [16:11] mount /dev/xxx /mnt ; chroot /mnt /sbin/lilo [16:11] ok [16:11] jalonso, well, then you cant call lilo [16:11] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] jalonso, replace xxx with the correct drive [16:11] slackytude|evil: should I enter partition number? [16:12] lilo will usually want /dev and /proc mounted, too [16:12] thrice`, it will throw warnings but still work [16:12] jalonso, yeah... [16:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433596.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:13] thrice`: worked for me without /dev or /proc properly set [16:13] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:13] any of you run virtualbox? I have a Q about guest additions: I do believe that last time I configged it, I was able to have guest additions AND the cdrom mounted, but I forgot how [16:14] slackytude|evil: when I "mount /dev/hda /mnt" it said that it was already mounted or busy...... [16:14] briareus: all you need for that is to have several cdrom devices [16:14] jake_ (n=jake@78.149.176.58) joined ##slackware. [16:14] jalonso, /dev/hda is probably not correct [16:14] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A74C84.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:14] is /dev/ttys0 the same as /dev/cua0? [16:14] jalonso, its usually /dev/hda1 or so. need to give it a partition, not only a drive [16:14] Camarade_Tux: hmmm, remember how to set that up? it's giving me two options: my detected cdrom, and the guestadd.iso [16:15] Action: Camarade_Tux has no /dev/cua0 but also has a reconfigured kernel [16:15] slackytude|evil: oh [16:15] jalonso, also, before you do that, are you actually sure you lilo.conf is correct. I kinda jumped into this [16:15] briareus: I don't have vbox right now but I believe you can do that in the config part, where you can add hard drives [16:15] ah [16:16] slackytude|evil: the lilo.conf should be slackware's [16:16] Somehow I have a hazy memory that whatever I did was from within each guest os [16:16] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [16:16] also, if it's incorrect, lilo warn about it [16:16] slackytude|evil: I dont think lilo.conf is correct [16:16] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [16:17] depends on your definition of icorrect. it could simply point to a non-slackware partition, or install to a completly differents hd's mbr [16:17] jalonso: do you know vi? [16:17] xjkx (n=xjkx@201009163033.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:17] for all the hoopla of grub, i must say that I've never had a lilo problem, but I have had more than one grub implosions. I guess I should say this: for *my* uses, lilo works better. [16:17] i was trying to recover a deleted partition, and somehow i used the tool wrong, now i can`t boot any installed system. i am running a livecd, and i mounted them, all the files are still there, so i don`t have to worry about data losing. see my fdisk -l in http://pastebin.ca/1553009 do you see anything wrong, like partitions arent bootable or something ? i restored Grub with super grub disk, but still...it can`t boot anything [16:17] jalonso, probably best to pastebin it somewhere [16:17] Camarade_Tux: I actually use nano [16:17] jalonso: me too, but after you edit lilo.conf, you have to run lilo once [16:18] if lilo fails, it fails when you run not, not when you reboot and any fail means you have no system anymore [16:18] root@slackbook:~# lilo [16:18] Added linux-default * [16:18] Added linux-2.6.30.5 [16:18] evo- (n=evo@p4FD299B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:18] jalonso: well, just checks the end of /mnt/etc/lilo;conf [16:18] /mnt/etc/lilo.conf [16:19] xjkx, that looks correct. what happens if you try to boot? [16:19] Camarade_Tux: what I would like is a way to actually read my lilo.conf file from the prompt I have loaded already, is there a way to get there through the slackware dvd ? [16:19] it claims to be invalid file system, or something like that [16:20] jalonso: vi or vim is on the cd, if you know how to use them [16:20] ok [16:20] xjkx, something like that is a pretty common error message, hear it all the time, never seen it meself, tho [16:20] jalonso: not really [16:20] lol [16:20] jalonso: but does the root= line looks correct? what is it? [16:20] jalonso: I'm not sure of slackware's method of mounting or chrooting into the system from the dvd [16:20] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Connection timed out [16:20] briareus: but vim won't run since a lib it depends on is unavailable [16:20] and vi has no V ! ='( [16:21] (but you can installpkg) [16:21] ah [16:21] Camarade_Tux: it looks like this: root@slackware:/# [16:21] that looks like a prompt [16:21] jalonso: no, in the lilo.conf [16:21] at the end of it [16:21] Action: slackytude|evil facepalms [16:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [16:21] he means this line: root = /dev/sda6 [16:21] I gotta noobfarm that [16:21] (in my case its /sda6 [16:22] slackytude|evil: was considering doing it ;p [16:22] Camarade_Tux: there's no way of me knowing because I cant get to it [16:22] jalonso: why? [16:22] jalonso: if you have the livecd/dvd operating, you should be able to at least look at it [16:23] fundamental (n=fundamen@li48-162.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] briareus: How do i do that? [16:23] jalonso: I'm fairly confident your problem is recoverable, it just might take some time (but that's always educational) [16:23] jalonso: I'm not sure exactly how from slackwares' cd/dvd, Im new to it too [16:24] basictracks (n=peter@basictracks.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:24] that is what scares me about lilo [16:24] whoops - i forgot to run it after changing lilo.conf [16:24] BANG [16:24] briareus: do you recommend that I mount my partitions from another live cd/dvd like ubuntu? [16:24] jalonso: I know how from something like KNOPPIX or some other distro's livecd's, but I'm new to slackware [16:24] by opening it :S [16:24] you can always use the CD to boot your installed system and fix lilo [16:24] brb, work calls [16:25] Pig_Pen: how? [16:25] http://imagebin.org/62357 [16:25] My head hurts [16:25] huge.smp root=/dev/#### initrd= ro [16:25] Pig_Pen: he knows its possible but he's not sure *how* and I'm not sure how either [16:25] so I'm no real help to him [16:25] or just boot from cd and mount the disk.... [16:25] I'm just cheerleading [16:26] slackytude|evil: I usually prefer to strip quotes to their minimum :) [16:26] guys I'm taking a beer break to download another livecd [16:26] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:26] read the dialon when the CD loads before the kernel in the CD boots [16:26] which category mc is in? [16:26] be back later [16:26] dialog* [16:26] slackytude|evil, lol [16:26] Camarade_Tux, I was thinking about it [16:26] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [16:27] oh well [16:27] somehow I think the chanes of finishing this is slim [16:27] cripes my ubuntu-vm is a hungry little bugger for updates. wtf are they doing over there? gives me the willies [16:27] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "zzzz" [16:27] john_dee: ap [16:28] why don't you just run ubuntu and then put slackware as your VM [16:28] Action: Camarade_Tux just switched to "tired"-mode [16:28] problem solved [16:28] ? [16:28] what problem [16:28] thanks for the help, if I had a problem :) [16:28] haha - i truly have no idea [16:28] it's been a loooooooooong day :P [16:28] agreed [16:29] tis was a long and ugly day [16:29] yesterday was my epic long day. so today I'm geeking. [16:29] Hi, I am having a bit of trouble with my cdrom drives, their read speed appears to be significantly less than what is was on an old motherboard; the only other thing changed to my system, is that I am currently using the kernel from the 12.2 install cd to boot rather than the one located in /boot/ . Any ideas/pointers? [16:29] getting the blame for stuff I didnt do and making a mistake at a customer [16:29] rg3: tnx [16:29] on the plus side my script to disconnect my workmates WOW session is almost done [16:29] hr hr hr [16:30] slackytude|evil: I narrowly escaped being blamed for a major problem, but it was a stressful struggle vindicating myself and proving I'd performed logical troubleshooting [16:30] xtd8865 (n=xtd8865@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:30] but I prevailed against heinous odds with the help of majestic heavenly force [16:30] briareus, close call. I got yelled at for sloppy working altho I wasnt even there at the time [16:31] slackytude|evil: I hate crap like that [16:31] no shit [16:31] slackytude|evil: we have a couple people in the shop who, frankly I don't know what the hell they do, but somehow they do nothing and never get busted, and I hail ass and when I sit to take a breather, its "there are things to do" [16:32] which of course kicks my morale right in the balls [16:32] briareus, yeah, apparently the trick is to never work at all or the barest minimum, so there is no chance of screwing up [16:32] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] slackytude|evil: I learned a few jobs ago that the first thing I should do is call in sick sometime in the first couple of weeks. Then they never are surprised when you call in sick again [16:33] you send a subtle message that you are not reliable, and thus they never hold you to some bullshit double standard [16:33] insanity, since I despise faking I'm less awesome than I am [16:33] its all madness [16:33] here where I work, its rather easy to shine, since so many don't. [16:34] but then it's expected. [16:34] that you can still recocknize it as such means you arent mental enough et [16:34] Action: slackytude|evil shrugs [16:34] I remember reading about two Linux modules/drivers that could be competing for control of the device (I think an IDE driver), which resulted in slow performance, but I have been unable to find the name of the two modules to check my system. Anyone know their names? [16:35] briareus, sure, its nice to shine but on days like this Id rather be an anonymous grunt [16:35] I know the feeling [16:35] Don't mind me, I'm just a brute moving boxes over here. [16:35] Action: slackytude|evil nods [16:35] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-dlbrvupcbldzzhof) left irc: "Page closed" [16:37] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [16:37] wee [16:37] lf4, got the switch working [16:37] congrats jeev [16:38] thanks Necos [16:38] i had a bad serial cable [16:38] it's just like ios, some ieee standard command line stuff [16:38] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] crappy web interface but i'm fine with CLI [16:38] yay! [16:38] now to see if there are 64bit counters [16:39] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:39] IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.1 = Counter64: 1322770 [16:39] nice [16:39] gbowden (n=gbowden@163.Red-83-45-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:39] nothing12345 (n=phil@89.190.186.110) joined ##slackware. [16:40] nothing12345 (n=phil@89.190.186.110) left ##slackware. [16:40] necos jackson [16:40] fundamental (n=fundamen@li48-162.members.linode.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:40] xjkx (n=xjkx@201009163033.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] easy peasy :P [16:41] I hate that commercial [16:41] everytime I hear that on the radio I turn it off [16:42] what? [16:42] "easy peasy lemon squeezy" [16:42] ugh. [16:42] oh god >.> [16:43] That makes me want to cause sigalert [16:43] that word is from the 80s... [16:43] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [16:43] *phrase [16:43] easy peasy? the ubuntu netbook remix? [16:44] I'm really liking xfce again. [16:44] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/PPTCountdowntoSingularityLog.jpg [16:45] The last time I had used it was before kde4 hit -current. I can't exactly place it but I think it's better than it was. [16:50] cant see much difference except the way they handle right click menis [16:50] menus even [16:51] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:52] i haven't seen eviljames in a long ass time, what happened to him [16:52] I've got a strange question; If I wanted to replace all of the files in /usr/* that the nvidia installer would/might have replaced, would reinstalling all of the X series do the job alone? [16:52] jeev, he is on right now [16:52] antiwire, nvidia got an --uninstall flag [16:52] antiwire: just get a list of the files and use the slackware package browser to track them down to packages [16:52] oh [16:52] basictracks (n=peter@basictracks.demon.nl) left ##slackware. [16:53] weird [16:53] that's even more easy :) [16:53] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.16) joined ##slackware. [16:53] Nick change: omni_sleep -> omnipotentduo [16:53] slackytude|evil: I looked around where it would have changed files and I don't see any .old or .backup or anything like that [16:53] antiwire, but I think even reinstalling X leaves nvidia stuff behind [16:54] antiwire, not sure about that [16:54] I'll check it out in a fresh VM [16:54] have fun [16:54] it's mesa you have to reinstall I think [16:54] nvidia-switch --cleanup :) [16:54] pprkut: I didn't you your build. [16:54] pprkut: \o/ [16:54] Like I mentioned, I used the installer [16:54] you/use [16:55] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [16:55] antiwire: look at the nvidia-driver README. It states what files are overwritten [16:55] pprkut: got it, thanks [16:56] antiwire: then they will be removed if you unistall all of x/ . i think. as they were overwritten but pkgtools doesnt care [16:56] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:56] pprkut: The reason I brought this up was because I looked at your builds and saw what you had done realizing that I probably lost those original files [16:56] TeenGirl- (i=xrayon@41.236.14.117) left irc: No route to host [16:57] is anyone having problems with firefox not displaying a webpage the way the page is written? [16:57] FWIW, "nvidia-installer --uninstall" (when run from the .run install, not the SlackBuilds) does nearly the same as "nvidia-switch --cleanup" [16:57] antiwire: ^^ [16:57] pprkut: even after the fact? [16:57] pprkut: nearly? [16:57] not sure how it behaves after an xorg/mesa update [16:57] I don't see any "backed up" files laying about my system [16:58] sahko: well yeah. nvidia-switch has a different backup-approach [16:58] antiwire: they are somewhere in /var [16:58] ah! [16:58] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.131.33) left irc: "Leaving." [16:59] where i can find sendmail for windows server 2003 [16:59] pprkut: what does the nvidia installer do differently? [17:00] s0d0 (n=jdr@host81-141-52-140.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] sahko: the nvidia-installer places all conflicting files somewhere in /var, whereas nvidia-switch does inplace-backups [17:00] weird: /var/lib/nvidia/* [17:00] check that oddness out [17:00] I know :) [17:00] not really an odd place [17:00] the log looks like it translates [17:00] slackytude|evil: not the place...the contents.... [17:00] pprkut: and if i unistall it? does it move em back? [17:00] ah, ok [17:01] sahko, thats the point [17:01] hmmm [17:01] slackytude|evil: that's pretty amusing :) [17:01] slackytude|evil: oh right [17:01] SLAYTANIC DEATH TO YOU ALL! [17:02] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.40) left irc: [17:02] err, hello. [17:02] Necos, wht is? [17:02] the person you quoted [17:02] Necos, oh the quote [17:02] sahko: as said, yes. nvidia-switch will leave the nvidia-driver files installed though, nvidia-installer --uninstall removes it completely [17:02] yeah, I thought so as well [17:02] pprkut: yeah, and seems nvidia-installer has a manpage :) [17:02] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:03] nvidia's stuff aint bad [17:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [17:03] just pretty closed up [17:03] sahko: yep, I know. But there are certain things it just can't do [17:03] yeah :) [17:03] for binary blobs, i would agree [17:03] and it doesn't have (x)randr! ='( [17:03] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] Hello [17:04] I thought about modifiying nvidia-installer to do all the stuff nvidia-switch does, but no time yet [17:04] still a useable nouveau would be great [17:04] it does a nice job with modifying the xorg.conf for mulltiple monitors, tho [17:04] sahko, aye [17:04] anyone: how to integrate openoffice 3.1 with KDE 4 ?? [17:04] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:05] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.220) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Nigromante: just set the file type perferences by right clicking each type of document and choosing openoffice [17:05] I mean user interface [17:05] the style you mean [17:05] ? [17:05] Nigromante: lmgtfy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/openoffice-3.0.1-integration-in-kde4-712092/ [17:05] Nigromante: check go-oo, they might have it already. Otherwise, compile from source..... [17:05] yep [17:06] Nigromante: haha [17:06] good luck [17:06] hahaha [17:06] ok thank you [17:06] antiwire: it is already there, somewhere [17:06] the change the styles? [17:06] does anyone else have a problem with firefox displaying bland (no java/shtml) webpages? [17:06] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:06] what about the open file dialog which looks like something from windows 95 [17:07] http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/blog/archives/monthly/2009-06.html#2009-06-15T14_37_23.htm [17:08] theres no linux distribution shipping openoffice. they all ship go-oo. Arch has both. only CRUX has a Slackware-like openoffice build script [17:08] s/Slackware/rworkman [17:08] shipping openoffice? [17:09] s/shipping/packaging [17:09] Necos: basically openoffice.org != openoffice.org :P [17:09] ok, that makes a little more sense... [17:09] eh pprkut? >.<;;; [17:10] i just came back from my E&M class... like i'm ready to think about OOo [17:10] hehehe [17:10] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [17:11] http://lh5.ggpht.com/_HT6p5V6ArNw/SioBOq-M3RI/AAAAAAAAA28/8tDGOtE8SzY/slackware1_thumb1.jpg [17:11] hmm, a go-oo Slackbuild would indeed be interesting .... [17:11] pprkut: btw, i was gonna tell ya... you need to update your barry build script >.> [17:11] .15 is out since aug. 20th [17:11] 28th, rather [17:12] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:12] Necos: barry? wrong maintainer [17:12] in case anyone still cares about that question I asked, http://pastebin.com/m738b4487 [17:12] poop >.<; [17:12] those are the packages [17:12] maybe Fedora does have OOo too [17:12] there was something i was going to tell you that you needed to update lol [17:12] pprkut: thanks for the README ;) [17:12] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:13] Necos: haha, I guess so :) [17:13] antiwire: np ;) [17:13] there was something i built that you're maintaining >.> [17:13] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.77.123.73) joined ##slackware. [17:14] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "Caindo fora!!!" [17:14] oh, it was boost [17:14] guimaluf (n=guimaluf@usuarios146.dcc.ufmg.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] there's 1.40 out [17:14] boost is part of slackware now. [17:14] Necos: included in Slackware 13.0. next try :P [17:14] :P [17:15] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [17:15] Action: BP{k} gives Necos his first yellow card ;) one more and you're out! [17:15] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:15] rworkman (n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:15] lol [17:16] rworkman (n=rworkman@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Action: Necos dies [17:16] y0 rworkman [17:16] rworkman (n=rworkman@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:16] oh [17:16] robbie dies :P [17:16] its a trap! 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[17:24] yep espicially when using irssi :P [17:24] >.> [17:24] yup [17:28] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] heh, i still use epic >.> [17:29] I just use sed and awk with /dev/urandom and nc [17:29] i'm reet [17:29] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [17:29] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [17:31] alienBOB: in your linux-mag interview, you said the slackbuilds for the different archs (x86, x86_64, ARM, s/390) had been "unified", how so? is there magic to make a slackware64 slackbuild out of a template or a slackware32 slackbuild? [17:31] Camarade_Tux: iirc it is an env var [17:31] Camarade_Tux: they already are; the CFLAGS, and libsuffix stuff [17:31] they use LIBDIRSUFFIX [17:31] there is the arch command that can tell the slackware which system it is being run on (just a guess) [17:32] and check it with an if statement [17:32] so, running ARCH="x86_64" ./blah.SlackBuild will work out of the box [17:32] aye [17:32] slackwares port system ^.^ [17:32] but does it mean that if there is any change in a slackbuild, it has to be done in the other too? [17:32] Pig_Pen: doesn't arch return i686 on 32-bit machines? [17:32] so it will either use /usr/lib or /usr/lib64 [17:32] no Camarade_Tux, not if you use the new template [17:32] I'm more interested in the details, I'm already using slackbuilds on x86_64 but I'd like to make another arch (windows... :D ) [17:33] Camarade_Tux: unified in the sense that the ./source directory for both versions is essentially the same [17:33] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [17:33] Camarade_Tux: ewww [17:33] Camarade_Tux: a change in one SlackBuild is followed by a copy over to the other tree [17:33] that makes me want to hurt you >.> [17:33] alienBOB: ok, thanks :) [17:33] Hi all Nille is in the room [17:34] think I'll set up something with rsync and put a notification when a slackbuild is changed :) [17:34] alienBOB: do you ever use a separate build dir and lndir ? [17:34] Necos: hehe ;p [17:34] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:34] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:34] Pig_Pen: lndir? [17:35] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [17:35] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-nzojtsgxfrlpbvia) joined ##slackware. [17:35] lndir is an app that populates a build directory full of symlinks pointing to the source code directory [17:35] it is in xfree86 and xorg [17:35] X right? [17:36] http://directory.fsf.org/project/lndir/ lndir [17:36] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [17:36] is there an official or (semi officl) build script for ff 3.0.x alienbob? [17:37] that would come in handy for maintaining packages for several different architecures [17:37] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Action: slackytude|evil goes off [17:37] alienBOB, nice interview, btw [17:37] see ya slackers [17:37] url for interview? [17:37] see ya slackytude|evil [17:37] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:37] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Pig_Pen, o/ [17:38] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A74C84.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "friday!" [17:38] \o [17:38] Pig_Pen: you left him hangin :( [17:38] mancha: http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7502/1.html [17:38] thanks camarae [17:39] *camarade [17:39] :) [17:40] camarada tux ! :D [17:40] xtd8865 (n=xtd8865@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [17:40] alienBOB: Here's to your operation, and the end result. ;) The LM interview was a very good read. [17:40] deco: :) [17:40] Action: eviljames hasn't finished it yet :P [17:40] need to sleep now ;p [17:40] eviljames: you're slow :P [17:40] Camarade_Tux: what time is it in france ? :P [17:41] deco: almost midnight [17:41] Camarade_Tux: hehe [17:44] someone knows why is this error: GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: invoking List() failed for type GProxyVolumeMonitorHal ? i have this when i try to run gsb [17:44] and also some gtk applications. [17:46] mancha: the first FF I built for Slackware64 was version 3.0.3 [17:46] brb, i need to update epic :P [17:46] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't." [17:46] But the history of SlackBuilds is not public, so you'd have to check with slamd64 - they would have a SlackBuild for 3.0.x [17:47] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.38.40) joined ##slackware. [17:47] but does slackware64 have the build script for 3.0.x somewhere? [17:47] The differences between 3.0.3 and the current 3.5.2 are not huge, but not trivial either [17:47] or will they be exactly the same [17:47] Slackware64 has 3.5.x not 3.0.x [17:47] the same wrt slamd64 i mean, not with 3.5.x [17:48] Ah [17:48] Well, since Slackware64 publicly never had anything else than 3.5.x the question is moot [17:48] To be honest, I have not looked at the slamd64 script [17:49] fair enough, i'll see if i can find it [17:49] Why, do you need to build 3.0.x from source? [17:49] yes [17:49] Tirili (n=Unknown@dslc-082-083-132-070.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.79.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.220) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:51] When I try to boot my freshly installed slackware64 13.0, my laptop reboots when there is something loading regarding acpi. The newest ubuntu live cd does also work only if I use the disable-acpi-mode. [17:52] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.220) joined ##slackware. [17:52] Can I disable acpi for my slackware too? Is there a kernel parameter? noacpi or something? [17:52] try acpioff or acpi=off or noacpi (something like that) [17:52] acpi=off [17:54] there are subvariants, for example if it is an interrupt routing issue acpi=noirq, etc. but acpi=off disables it altogether [17:54] ok [17:57] Nick change: dr_brudel -> Dr_Sunglasses [17:57] Nick change: Dr_Sunglasses -> dr_brudel [17:58] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:01] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:01] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [18:01] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-192-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:03] figyehant (n=anonymou@92.20.207.242) joined ##slackware. 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[18:08] >.<; [18:08] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-nzojtsgxfrlpbvia) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [18:09] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:09] this script looks so different from hienoa >.> [18:09] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] Seamonkey-1.1.18 is out, probably a bugfix & security update [18:10] gonna take some time to get used to [18:10] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:10] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:10] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [18:13] does the xorg in slack 13 have display hotplugging support? [18:13] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:14] diabolix (n=jsoyke@206.210.81.55) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] siimo, Xorg supports it... Whether the video driver supports it is another question. [18:14] evo- (n=evo@p4FD299B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [18:15] im using radeonhd oss driver [18:15] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [18:15] siimo, Yes, radeonhd supports display hotplugging. [18:15] Should work out of the box, assuming you aren't using S-Video hooked up to a TV. That might be trickier. [18:16] hm.. those apcioff, apci=off and noapci don't seem to help. It's still restarting while booting. How can I find out, what to do? [18:16] laptop dvi port to external display [18:16] The last line in dmesg is: [18:16] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] nice interview [18:17] siimo, You'll have to activate the display with the xrandr command (or via the KDE4 display config utility), but it should definitely work. [18:17] EXT4-fs: mounted filesystem sda2 with ordered data mode [18:17] ah, much better [18:18] Tirili, then why did you say acpi was the source of your trouble? [18:19] pastebin a full dmesg [18:20] When I tried to run the ubuntu live cd, it only worked with the disabling acpi option. Don't know why. [18:20] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [18:20] make/model? [18:20] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:21] i assume you've already exhausted the web with googling for linux problems on your particular box, right? [18:21] jake_ (n=jake@78.149.176.58) left irc: "Leaving" [18:23] Darklor (n=chatzill@117.204.81.122) joined ##slackware. [18:24] hmmmm [18:24] Can anyone provide me with some screenshots of the 13.0 release . I can't produce them due to some technical reasons [18:25] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:25] Nick change: panzer -> Panzer [18:26] Darklor: what do you want to see ? [18:26] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:26] Upload it anywhere in the world wide web and just give me the link , its just for an review of the same . Thanks [18:26] 1. buy computer 2. install slackware 3.????? 4. PROFIT!!! [18:26] Pig_Pen : What do you think I am running now ?? [18:26] http://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/slackware-13.0.png :P [18:27] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [18:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] fire|bird : I get 403 Forbidden when I reach that page [18:28] Darklor: just find a pic of kde 4.2 -_- [18:29] deco : Basically the screen that all I want , but may be a little bit of its components [18:29] http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090831#released <---scroll down to slackware. :P [18:29] Darklor: just look for some , it really doesn't have to be slackware how will they notice ? [18:29] lol [18:29] google it [18:30] ircII EPIC5-1.0 (20081225) [1581] amnesiac/2.0.1 (20090610) [cvs (19)] [18:30] ok, it does work >.<; [18:30] and, as deco said, look for screenshots of KDE 4.2.4 or xfce 4.6.1, etc and you'll pretty much know what things look like. Aside from wallpaper or something maybe. [18:30] Does linux screenshots have copyright [18:30] heya Necos [18:30] heya fire|bird [18:31] hi fire|bird [18:31] y0 hitest [18:31] i did the craziest thing... :) i updated epic [18:31] :) [18:31] Necos: you just broke your warrenty! :O [18:31] http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090831#feature <-----wow, a distro under 3MB [18:31] lol [18:32] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:32] deco: Nah, he hasn't removed the sticker yet. :P [18:32] fire|bird: ok :P [18:32] there is one that fits on a floppy diskette [18:32] bellows2 (n=catha66@cpe-24-165-165-229.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:33] wow, with x windows too, that is pretty cool to squeeze that in to 2 megs [18:33] 3 [18:33] yeah, and it doesn't look half bad either. [18:33] I wonder what the boot time is. :P [18:34] I'm downloading it to find out. :P [18:34] haha, download took 6 seconds [18:35] wow, 3 megs? [18:35] yeah [18:35] It has a .img file. USB boot probably. :P [18:35] someday somebody is going to squeeze an entire OS in to the MBR [18:36] Pig_Pen: Yeah, that's probably just around the corner. [18:36] Pig_Pen: I bet this doesn't have any automagic or anything though. :P [18:37] can boot from floppy, usb, cd/dvd, etc. [18:37] i am waiting for Crux-2.6 to be released, i am hoping they *do not* tie xorg up with a dbus/hal dependency [18:37] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [18:38] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.77.123.73) left irc: Client Quit [18:38] I've never tried crux, is that lightweight too? [18:38] Pig_pen: never tried crux....is it good? [18:38] its a little bigger than 3 megs :D [18:39] the ISO is about 250 megs, has a ports system that is easier and lots better than gentoo's portage [18:39] mweltin (n=mweltin@host-135-16.dhcp.pdx.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:40] just upgraded to 13 and all is well with the exception of one small issue. [18:40] Crux does not come with a pre-compiled kernel it only extracts the source to /usr/src and once you install you chroot and build a kernel [18:40] Darklor (n=chatzill@117.204.81.122) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090803171036]" [18:40] mancha, no I had not googled for it, but I have now. I have a Samsung R510 and my error is the same as that here: http://forums.opensuse.org/install-boot-login/397659-samsung-r510-boot-only-acpi-off.html [18:40] The good thing is, that the solution mem=4G works here! :) [18:40] Pig_Pen: thanks. sounds interesting. [18:41] If I launch an app from the command line all is well, if I use the window manager menu any X app will have squares where letters should be. As if it can't load some font. [18:41] figyehant (n=anonymou@92.20.207.242) left irc: "Leaving" [18:41] hitest: crux is nice, has bsd style init scripts similar to slackware so you will be right at home with it [18:41] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Tirili, excellent news [18:42] I was able to login now and perhaps it's a good thing, if I finish setting up my new slackware and come here again to talk about that thing then. [18:42] yeah that'll be good... [18:43] They say, mem=4G reduces my available memory to 3GB. Why a four then in the command?! [18:43] Pig_Pen: crux sounds interesting. I'll probably toss that in a VM and mess around with it. [18:43] Pig_Pen: sounds like it has a similar package management system to freebsd. worth a look [18:43] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [18:44] There, going to try that 3MB one on the laptop with a live cd. :P [18:44] HOLY.....that was fast. [18:44] 5 seconds [18:44] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:44] if even that [18:44] how much mem does the machine have? [18:45] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host112-65-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [18:45] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [18:45] hi all [18:45] help me please [18:45] heh, it even has an irc client. [18:45] mancha: was that directed at me? [18:45] trying to make working a ZyXEL g-202 [18:46] Action: mingdao throws nannes a life jacket [18:46] lol [18:46] using zd1211rw modules [18:46] no [18:46] .... when I try to up wlan0 [18:47] permission denied [18:47] figyehant (n=anonymou@92.20.207.242) joined ##slackware. [18:47] an error simil this ‘ [18:48] what is normally in /usr/x11R6/lib/x11/fonts/CID ? [18:48] nannes: have you followed the steps outlined here -> http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [18:49] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [18:49] moks107 (n=shim@89.148.34.165) joined ##slackware. [18:50] mweltin: what version of Slackware are you running? [18:50] 13 [18:50] 4 gb [18:50] /bin/ls: cannot access /usr/x11R6/lib/x11/fonts/CID: No such file or directory [18:50] I did an "upgrade" from 12 and I have the strangest problem. [18:50] mingdao: uhm... no! xD thanks, because I was trying as I knew..... (with ifconfig, iwlist scan, iwconfig etc) [18:50] nannes: wireless? [18:50] mingdao: thanks [18:51] mingdao: y [18:51] bunbum (n=server@189.82.18.65) joined ##slackware. [18:51] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:51] hi antiwire [18:51] depending on how I launch an app I either get the correct character set, or I get a bunch of squares where letters should be. [18:51] nannes: either edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf or leave it as is and install and run wicd from the ./extra/ directory [18:52] :OO is wicd indispensable? [18:52] mweltin: you can't upgrade to Slackware-13.0 [18:52] hey slackwarers [18:52] nannes: no, it is optional [18:52] mingdao: I did the install but didnt' format my drives [18:52] mingdao: I don't need it ^_^ [18:52] ??? [18:52] nannes: use option 1 --- that's what I do and it works [18:53] mweltin: you installed what and didn't format your drives? [18:53] does anyone know where/how can I bump the network memory buffer space? [18:53] mweltin: what app are you launching, and how, that gives you squares? [18:54] mingdao: option 1 of what? [18:54] downloaded the slack13 iso, burned it to a disk, boot my box, ran setup. When asked if I wanted to format my drives I said no. adn then when ahead with teh rest of the install. [18:54] Tirili, other things use up address space [18:54] 06:56 < mingdao> nannes: either edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf or leave it as is and install and run wicd from the ./extra/ directory [18:54] oh ok [18:54] nannes, read [18:54] sorry [18:55] figyehant (n=anonymou@92.20.207.242) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:55] mweltin: you have all of Slackware on one partition? [18:55] mingdao: I use fluxbox and if I use the "context menu" (i.e. right click on teh desktop and select an app) I get the squares where I should get characters. This happens with eclipse, gimp, and pigdin. [18:55] mingdao: yes [18:55] missing fonts? [18:55] mingdao: one partition [18:56] mancha: yeah I think so , but what is really odd is if I launch the same apps from the command line they "find" a useful font. [18:56] mweltin: you are running X as a normal user, or root? [18:56] mingdao: normal user [18:56] what is the default X font? it looks like crap >.> [18:56] locale [18:56] maybe you need to rebuild the font cache stuff [18:57] issue "locale" and pastebin the output mweltin [18:57] any network guro here? [18:57] guru* [18:57] no, they're all in #networking [18:57] ;) [18:58] Nick change: welanx2 -> welanx [18:58] mingdao: http://pastie.org/605170 [18:59] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [18:59] how do I make that URI open in Firefox from irssi? [18:59] mingdao, thankz [18:59] bunbum (n=server@189.82.18.65) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:59] woot got 2 monitors working, whats cool is i can watch fullscreen movie on 2nd screen while working on main monitor.. cant do this on windows [19:00] fc-cache bitches about being unable to clear /var/cache/fontconfig... wonder if i should chmod +w it >.> [19:00] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:02] mweltin: I use Fluxbox and don't have that issue ... [19:02] mweltin: I don't know but try what mancha said first [19:03] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:03] mweltin: but if you're ever rebooted since this first happened, I don't see the point [19:03] monev (n=monev@adsl-64-237-234-237.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] mweltin: if you installed without formatting, there might very well be some files lying around that should not be there [19:04] xtd8865 (n=xtd8865@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:04] does xlsfonts show your fonts? [19:05] hello... if X closes all drivers what could be the problem? [19:05] mingdao: I uninstalled all the packages first to avoid that very situation of old files lying around (it was mentioned in the slack setuup screen) [19:05] i dont see any EE's, only the part of it closing the kbd,evdev,mouse drivers, which leaves no input and me doomed :) [19:06] mancha: it lists out 100's of fonts [19:06] mweltin: uninstalling all packages does not remove all files ... not all config files, etc. [19:06] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:06] mweltin: you can try a different locale with UTF-8 [19:06] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-30-100.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:07] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] edit /etc/profile.d/lang.sh and comment #export LANG=en_US and uncomment export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 [19:07] mweltin: then logout of X and login again [19:07] monev: No mouse nor keyboard response while in X? [19:08] but I don't see what those three packages would give you squares rather than the proper letters [19:09] a square means a missing font, ie it is looking in thw wrong place or you don't have things where they should be [19:09] mingdao: I'm almost certain is a font thing, because it only happnes depending on how they are launched. [19:09] no myestery here, the only mystery is how it got broken to start with [19:09] monev:custom kernel? [19:09] why does that make it a font thing? [19:09] gm152: none, hell even the screen goes blank, then im forced to shutdown by force [19:09] siimo: nop, pure slack13 no extra packages installed or anything [19:09] mweltin: what do you have to lose by reinstalling Slackware properly? [19:09] so why would fluxbox be looking for fonts in a different place then from an xterm. [19:10] mweltin: is your data backed up? [19:10] or mayb im missing a package or something [19:10] mweltin: you did the funkiest install I ever heard [19:10] mingdao: time mostly. I'd have to back up a lot of stuff, but it's not that big a deal. [19:10] i had similar problem but i had forgotten to compile evdev module [19:10] change your WM's or DE's default font [19:10] mingdao: Idid partition my drives correctly in the fist place. [19:10] mweltin: I keep a separate ~/ and all the important config files are in ~/configs/ [19:10] siimo: oh, custom kernel then? [19:10] see if that helps. then go back and figure out why it wasn't working the original ay [19:11] way [19:11] DE's? [19:11] yeah im using my own, mainly cos of tux-on-ice [19:11] mweltin: Slackware-13.0 can not be upgraded from anything. [19:11] desktop environment. what do you use to manage your wondows or desktop? [19:11] fluxbox [19:11] mancha: he said Flux [19:11] i must point out, that i didnt burn the second cd, so then i had to install X by hand and from tty (instead of cd) so mayb i am missing some packages [19:11] ok then go in and tweak flux's default font for menus [19:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:12] dang, it's the morning of gooky installations [19:12] nannes1 (n=nannes@host-78-14-192-151.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [19:12] bellows2 (n=catha66@cpe-24-165-165-229.neo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [19:12] Latest X requires the hal daemon to be running. If it is running and not resolved, I've seen positive results by entering a line in xorg.conf "Option AllowEmptyInput" "no" [19:13] mweltin: in ~./fluxbox/menu what is the [encoding] [19:13] Option "AllowEmptyInput" "no" [19:13] grep 'encoding' .fluxbox/menu [19:13] xrandr is awesome only if xfce had GUI for it :| [19:14] UTF-8 [19:14] gm152: lol, i thought it was False in the boolean part [19:14] so it might be looking for unicode fonts, do you have any? [19:14] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.26.34) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:14] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [19:15] gm152: that may be whats screwing it up :) [19:15] mweltin: I'm only guessing now, and out of guesses [19:15] monev: False, no, 0 work. [19:15] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:15] gm152: oh, so then i had it written right? [19:15] Nick change: nannes1 -> nannes [19:15] mweltin: but let me go on record as saying there is a LOT of merit to doing a proper install ... and you did not :P [19:15] gm152: if so then the problem persists [19:16] monev: Your issue is different because when I had no mouse nor keyboard response, I still had a desktop. [19:16] what good is a desktop if you have no mouse or keyboard to provide any input? [19:17] mancha: I have ttf fonts but nothing that says unicode [19:17] gm152: that was my issue too [19:17] gm152: very well... well thanks, at least i got to rule some problems out [19:17] that was cos of evdev module [19:17] monev: I suspect driver or you're overdriving your monitor. [19:17] Pig_Pen: at least you know that the vid driver works and the problem is somewhere else [19:18] anyone know of a good clipboard handler for X? [19:18] xclipboard? [19:18] mrselfpwn: its good enough [19:18] i use clipboard-daemon, its basic but works across all apps though text only [19:18] I'll reboot and be back I'm sure [19:18] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [19:18] thanks for your help [19:18] mweltin (n=mweltin@host-135-16.dhcp.pdx.edu) left ##slackware. [19:19] okay, cool. yes i'm looking for something that works across all apps. [19:19] I've seen an issue lately which was that I got into X but when I moved the mouse, X is killed and I'm brought back to console [19:20] lots of X-related issues lately, it seems [19:20] gm152: if only that happened [19:21] monev: Ah, ok. Different symptoms then. [19:21] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:12f) joined ##slackware. [19:22] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:23] i think i found the problem [19:23] argh... that's kinda warped [19:23] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC300C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [19:27] ? [19:29] http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/08/31/daily82.html [19:29] lol [19:29] i was messing with scim and it started doing very strange things lol [19:30] why don't people just get a hooker for that same 170 bucks? [19:30] silly silly! [19:30] lol [19:31] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:31] i think a friend at 17 cents, is a bargain! [19:31] er, 18 cents [19:31] for 170 bucks i would buy some good booze, a quarter oz of smoke and some steaks and have a barbeque weekend :D [19:31] lol [19:31] lol [19:32] :P [19:32] what a Pig_Pen [19:32] whoever buys those friends is the same guy whose mom used to tie a pork chop around his neck to get the dog to play with him [19:32] i know how to live \o/ [19:32] hahahaha [19:32] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) left irc: "Leaving" [19:33] bller (n=bller@89.47.105.62) joined ##slackware. [19:33] Pig_Pen, something like that costs 500 here [19:33] not including the booz [19:33] cause i dont booz [19:33] yowza! jeev you need to get out of LA [19:33] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) joined ##slackware. [19:34] jeev fails :P [19:34] mingdao: o/ [19:34] is anyone else having difficulties with flash 10? [19:34] i don't smoke, but booze ftw [19:34] i drink but in moderation, i stop long before i get slobbering beligernet drunk, just a buzz [19:34] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:34] neither here ... and the smoke is growing wild and free [19:34] they just need to get 1001 people and sell each one the rest, and make a nice fat $177,177 profit [19:34] lol mingdao [19:35] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [19:35] i want that high quality smoke where you just take a couple of tokes in a pipe and your good, no need to roll a fatty of some ditch weed [19:35] you guys are crazy [19:36] Pig_Pen, then how would you peel them 'taters [19:36] aside from modifying an iso, what else causes md5 sums to be different? [19:36] yup [19:36] mmm...good smoke..i've got some :) [19:36] antler, maybe filesystem ? [19:36] had no idea people in this channel would be on the subject :P [19:36] jeev: you don't smoke or drink ? [19:36] antler: padding zeros [19:36] no deco [19:36] jeev: same here :) [19:36] me neither deco [19:36] if iso's are the same, their md5's are the same. [19:36] deco somehow i feel like you were paid to sit here and see who i am [19:36] where you from [19:37] other than the obvious OC [19:37] which leads to: if md5s are different then isos are different [19:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r91Iha3tc80 peelin' taters [19:37] deco is the IP police [19:37] firedix (n=firedix@host9.200-45-61.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:37] mingdao: ;-) [19:37] jeev: Pig_Pen paid him enough for him to never tell. [19:37] note: this doesn't not mean: if md5s are the same, isos are the same [19:37] ;0 [19:37] jeev: i just find yo interesting lol jk [19:37] k. heh confused as to why the sums don't match for slack64 13 iso i dl'ed via torrent [19:37] http://www.hulu.com/watch/92766/dawn-of-the-dead \o/ [19:37] bad d/l [19:37] antler: use aria2c [19:38] antler: restart the torrent, it should fix itself [19:38] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/freenode/x-fpclmuqrpratvbwv) joined ##slackware. [19:38] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [19:38] antiwire: will try that. would rather that than dl again [19:39] mingdao: googling aria2c... no idea what it is [19:40] in any collection of 16^32+1 files at least one md5sum will repeat itself [19:40] i think i scared jeev away :( lol [19:40] mingdao: oh sounds nice [19:40] moks107 (n=shim@89.148.34.165) left irc: Client Quit [19:41] antler: it is [19:41] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [19:41] mancha: where the hell you been? :D [19:42] you mean my hiatus? [19:42] naturally [19:42] everyone in here thought you went postal [19:43] especially fire|bird [19:43] WHAT?!?!? [19:43] :P [19:43] y0 antiwire [19:43] hah, i don't recall firebird from my olden days [19:43] antler: [19:43] :? [19:43] argh, I fail [19:43] what up [19:44] you just got out of the joint? heh [19:44] which reminds me, i need to call my parole officer [19:44] loll [19:44] mancha: I hadn't ever seen you around until recently, like the past month or two. [19:44] haha [19:44] antler: multiple concurrent connections with aria also [19:44] aria2c http://foobar/whatever.iso{,,,,,,,,,} should use 10 connections [19:45] antiwire: heh, sorry about that, typo on my part, but I didn't spill water on it or anything, so no random stuff. :P [19:45] lol [19:45] ferdl (n=phiezer@p549836F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [19:45] i'm stilling waiting for that keyboard to dry out, using a spare still [19:45] antiwire: take a hair dryer to it? :P [19:45] I was tempted but it's been warm here lately [19:45] mingdao: heh checking for a slackbuild now :D [19:46] you need one? [19:46] no idea [19:46] I have one. [19:46] oh, but i'm about to install 13 64 [19:46] antler, good to see ya...gotta run now [19:46] mingdao: i wouldn't mind, if you wouldn't mind ;) [19:47] later mancha [19:47] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [19:47] antler: http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/slackware/aria2/build/aria2.SlackBuild [19:47] antiwire: yeah, hopefully it works once it's dried out, without random "k's" everywhere. [19:48] mingdao: thank you kindly :) [19:48] I already ordered another one anyway [19:48] so if it does dry out i'll have 2 spares [19:48] yeah, always nice to have spares around. [19:49] antler: just renewed the IP if you couldn't get it before [19:49] DNS stinks here [19:49] brian1 (n=brian@c-76-30-122-72.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/aria2/ ;) [19:49] antler: that SlackBuild will d/l the source, also [19:49] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:49] fire|bird: i wager that you've tried at least 2.5 distros since we last chatted [19:50] mingdao: still nothing [19:50] fire|bird: :) [19:50] antler: actually, I haven't. :P [19:50] antler: I've built kde 4.3 though. :D [19:50] frankyp (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:50] fire|bird: oh, did i say distros? i meant wm/de/... [19:50] :P [19:50] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] antler: Oh, in that case, uh, duh. :P I sure have. [19:51] mingdao: ah, there we go :D [19:51] fire|bird: hahah [19:51] antler: I've tried about everything. KDE4, xfce, fluxbox, openbox, pekwm, lxde, fvwm, blackbox, ion3..... :D [19:52] brian1 (n=brian@c-76-30-122-72.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:52] crackerjack (n=fd@74.55.236.186) joined ##slackware. [19:52] antler: no requires, and it is 1.5.0 [19:52] you forgot E [19:52] on yeah, enlightenment as well. [19:52] Action: tediosu says: have anyone noticed how slow is the ftp on slackware.com? [19:52] mingdao: can't wait to try [19:53] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:53] mingdao: whoo hooo hehe just looked at ARCH in the build [19:53] fire|bird: and what's the most you use ? :P [19:53] antler: I finally get over 210 Kb/s on my 2Mbps ADSL line [19:53] tediosu: Yes, use a mirror. [19:53] antler: look where the build came from ... [19:53] deco: KDE4, xfce, and fluxbox are what I use the most. [19:53] ftp.slackware.com is not meant to be used as a base for downloading. [19:54] fire|bird: :) [19:54] antler: http://slackware.com/~alien/AST [19:54] gm152: i like to download form the source :)_ [19:54] mingdao: well, there ya go. can't go wrong with the alien's stuff [19:54] hey i am having issues with my flash i have the adobe version placed where it is should be /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins but i am still not getting flash >< [19:54] antler: that one is nothing special ... I just used alienBOB's AST to use it quickly [19:54] mingdao: gotta grab vlc from his repo as well [19:55] mingdao: oh [19:55] You're going to suffer using 8KB/s transfer rates as opposed to 1MB/s that I get via osuosl. [19:55] antler: untar the source and run ./configure -help and you might want to enable other options ... that one is my initial build [19:55] Action: mingdao shuffles off to build a chicken tractor [19:56] gm152: yeah... i'll do your suggestion [19:56] yelsn (n=none@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) joined ##slackware. [19:56] Besides, mirrors are up to date. [19:56] antler: when you d/l a torrent with aria2c, it will automatically keep seeding after you finish [19:57] I must say that the torrent sucked for me too [19:57] I even seeded after I downloaded the ISO [19:57] antler: so don't stop it as long as you want to seed ... just let it run [19:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:58] I have a stupid question [19:58] mingdao: can i control up/down speed? [19:58] I've installed opera but I don't know how to run it [19:58] crackerjack: we have a stupid answer [19:58] lol [19:58] crackerjack: you on crack ? [19:58] opera (via command line). [19:58] gm152 [19:58] thanks [19:58] :> [19:59] maydayjay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [19:59] yw. [19:59] and once again, command line saves the day [19:59] fire|bird: oh, and you're using opera 10. [20:00] mingdao: ah, it's yours and not his. should've read further down. :) [20:00] Agreed, nooper. [20:01] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:01] fire|bird: i've only tried it for windows, not linux (yet) [20:01] using a hair dryer to dry out a laptop keyboard is a pita. the keyboards have aluminum back boards to help wick away heat. [20:02] so they get fscking hot really quick with a hair dryer [20:02] um, cooler setting? just air, perhaps? [20:02] antler: haha, yeah, opera 10 is nice, I've also, lately, been using FF + TBird and Konqueror + Kontact. :P [20:02] this hair dryer much be the atomic version [20:02] it has one mode and that is thermonuclear [20:02] lol [20:03] haha [20:03] fire|bird: konq as in to surf to checks files and stuff [20:03] antiwire: I had a hair dryer once that had 2 settings but then had a button to press to get a shot of cold air. [20:03] temp_ (n=temp@119.206.100.129) joined ##slackware. [20:03] antler: No, for web browsing. [20:04] ree hee hee heely [20:04] hahahaha [20:04] yarly [20:04] i am having issues with wicd in extra/ on 13.0. a user brings it up but it does not show all the networks, and for some reason shows networks that don't exist [20:04] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:04] trying doing hotmail with konq [20:04] yet as root i can see (iwlist wlan0 scanning) what's there and connect to it manually [20:04] fire|bird: you just won't get anywhere [20:04] antler: Ugh, hotmail, what's wrong with you. :P [20:05] fire|bird: hehe had the address for ages. can't be bothered to change it [20:05] fire|bird, you broke it [20:05] antler, wait...you use hotmail? [20:05] I broke what? :P [20:06] fire|bird, it [20:06] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.151) joined ##slackware. [20:06] nheco (n=nheco@201.35.68.71) joined ##slackware. [20:06] Ah crap. :/ [20:07] Pumpkins1979 (n=echo@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [20:08] crackerjack (n=fd@74.55.236.186) left irc: Client Quit [20:08] edman007: with the possible exception of you fine two hundred and some odd folks in here, who else doesn't? [20:08] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:09] dang, pebkac strikes again, I just did, temporarily break something. :P [20:09] fire|bird: PICNIC! ;) [20:09] antler, well lots of people use gmail... [20:09] lf4: :( [20:10] fire|bird: Cheer up lost of people enjoy going on picnic's lol [20:10] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] I broke my wifi. :( stupidity of course, I accidently overwrote my wpa_supplicant file. [20:10] edman007: how much storage at gmail on new sign up? [20:10] fire|bird: Oh man that stinks, did you save a backup? [20:10] It's not difficult to regenerate it. [20:11] antler: I think its 7GB [20:11] antler, dunno, i don't use it [20:11] lf4: I'm looking, and hoping. :P [20:11] Pumpkins1979 (n=echo@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:11] Action: lf4 crosses fingers for fire|bird [20:12] lf4: holy smokes that's serious storage [20:12] antler: yeah that's about right 7 GB [20:12] lf4: I had ran slackpkg to install jdk (for bootchartd) and it had some .new files that it found (not in relation to jdk) wpa_supplicant was one of them, and I accidently hit O for overwrite. :/ [20:12] antler: Yeah googles idea was "never having to delete anything just searching for emails instead" :) hence the massive storage. [20:13] fire|bird: Oh lol [20:13] lf4: stop laughing. :P [20:14] sluttyduck (n=slut@74.215.29.226) joined ##slackware. [20:14] fire|bird: can't its always funny to hear the things you do to bork your systems. [20:15] fire|bird: O overwrties the old file with the new file, but keeps the old file as file.orig [20:15] lf4: I only bork them temporarily. :( [20:15] mingdao: ah, that's right. thank you. [20:15] np [20:15] thanks again, mingdao :) [20:15] i am getting frustrated, i know i am doing this right, to get flash installed properly but flash still isn't loading as a plugin, any one out there mind helping? [20:16] antler: yw [20:16] omnipotentduo: how you do that? [20:16] omnipotentduo: flashplayer-plugin in Slackware-13.0? [20:16] omnipotentduo: if it isn't working, then you're not actually doing it properly ;) [20:16] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] mingdao: no i was getting the offical flash player from adobe and then extracting the tarball, and putting the .so file in the /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins >. [20:17] omnipotentduo: use the flashplayer-plugin.SlackBuild [20:17] mingdao: ok [20:17] no, that should work fine [20:17] omnipotentduo: why hurt yourself? [20:17] nheco (n=nheco@201.35.68.71) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:17] omnipotentduo: did you get the 64-bit plugin? [20:17] you can do either way, though [20:17] mingdao: i do things the hard way >< [20:17] run "file /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/flash-blah-blah.so" [20:17] omnipotentduo: I resemble that remark [20:18] omnipotentduo: the instructions on Adobe's website work when followed [20:18] iirc they are as easy as cp and paste [20:18] not if he grabbed the 32-bit version [20:18] you got that right thrice` [20:18] they're still just as easy to follow [20:18] you just don't get flash [20:19] mingdao: Howdy! Long time no see. [20:19] yelsn (n=none@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) left ##slackware. [20:19] omnipotentduo: there are some things that are worth doing the hard way ... IMO this isn't one [20:19] Howdy Alan_Hicks [20:19] mingdao: I agree [20:19] Alan_Hicks: yeah [20:20] omnipotentduo: run "file /usr/lib64/mozilla-plugins/flash-XX.so" [20:20] omnipotentduo: Yeah, the SlackBuild script is definitely the way to go here. [20:20] After logging in to kde3 my keyboardmap seems to switch to something terrible: The left side of my keyboard is set to something like the usual english keyboarmap, but the right side [20:20] looks like an emulated numberpad. [20:20] Alan_Hicks: I hate to leave good company, but I gotta go build a chicken tractor ;) [20:20] Sounds like fun. Later! [20:20] yeah i am kinda learning the whole slackbuild thing [20:20] i am liking it sometimes >> [20:21] Learn it. Live it. Love it. [20:21] Tirili: Have you read this shiny new CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT file? [20:21] i must be on ignore. i'll go do something else :> [20:21] The right side is everything right to the letter 'h'. xorgsetup doesn't help. [20:21] thrice`: ) [20:21] Action: omnipotentduo doesn't like it because i forget about it sometimes haha [20:21] Tirili: This on a laptop? [20:21] yes [20:21] Tirili: Hit your numlock key. [20:21] No, I haven't read... [20:22] Tirili: don't tell Robby ... he'll be so sad :-( [20:22] he'll kill a kitten. [20:22] yelsn (n=none@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] so long as he doesn't mess with my chickens [20:22] a dead cat is a good cat [20:22] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] [20:22] I don't have numlock key on my laptop?! :D [20:23] It doesn't have a number pad either. [20:23] Tirili: Are you certain you don't? [20:23] I'll have to read that thing now.. [20:23] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:23] Tirili: On my laptop, every key right of the "h" key can be used as the numpad with numock on. [20:23] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Cool. But there is no key with 'Num' on it or something like that. [20:24] Tirili: with ScrLock? [20:24] oh man [20:24] Fn+ScrLock [20:24] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left irc: "Leaving." [20:25] mine is hidden in fn+ScrLk [20:25] Tirili: Does this happen in the console (runlevel 3) as well? [20:25] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] Mine is Fn+F6, but I'm on a Mac with no ScrLk [20:25] Tirili: what is that laptop? [20:26] What is ScrLk? [20:26] Sorry for all my noobness. [20:26] ScrollLock [20:26] It does happen in the console at runlevel 3, too, yes. :( [20:27] Tirili: we're all n00bs [20:27] Samsung r510 laptop. [20:27] except for the b00bs [20:27] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:27] Then it's some kinda numlock issue almost certainly. [20:29] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:29] i am having issues with wicd in extra/ on 13.0. a user brings it up but it does not show all the networks, and for some reason shows networks that don't exist, yet as root i can see (iwlist wlan0 scanning) what's there and connect to it manually [20:30] Ah, ok, found it: [20:30] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [20:30] fn + F11. [20:30] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] temp_: Are these hidden networks showing up after resuming from suspend or hibernation? [20:30] I have never cared about that fn key. never. [20:30] atom_fox (n=atom_fox@120.28.146.110) joined ##slackware. [20:30] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [20:30] thank you all :) [20:30] Alan_Hicks, these are right after booting into the system (no suspend or hibernate being performed) [20:30] np [20:31] temp_: That's strange. What wireless chipset are you using? [20:31] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [20:31] I need suggestions for the best torrent downloader for slack... thanks [20:31] iwl3945 [20:31] mingdao: still no flash >< [20:31] atom_fox: aria2c [20:31] and i did grab the right arch [20:31] prove it! [20:31] with file [20:31] atom_fox: you running Slack64-13.0? [20:32] nope 12.2 only [20:32] atom_fox: See /extra on your install disks or your favorite mirror. [20:32] ok man, thanks... [20:32] temp_: Intel? [20:33] Alan_Hicks, yeah Intel 3945 series [20:33] Hmm.... that's unusual. [20:33] I was expecting you to say something like madwifi or ndiswrapper. :^) [20:33] yeah i'll say, 13.0-rc1 and 13.0-rc2 didn't do this [20:33] temp_: you're in the netdev group? [20:33] and yes i'm sure my install media is just fine [20:33] yes i'm in the netdev group [20:33] which version of wicd? [20:34] temp_: Are you using external commands or ioctl for the backend? Check the "Advanced Settings" tab of wicd's preferences dialog. [20:34] there was a hidden network bug fixed JUST at release time for 1.6.2.1 or so [20:35] Alan_Hicks, it was set to "external", so i set it to "ioctl". is that right? [20:35] temp_: Neither is necessarily right or wrong. I use external, that's the default, but changing the backend could be the fix for you. [20:35] because now it's saying there's only one and i'm actually connected to it (which disagrees with iwconfig essid "LIBRARY ANNEX") [20:35] The backend determines how wicd locates networks, connects to them, etc. [20:35] so really there was no change [20:35] ah [20:36] "external" basically runs iwconfig and iwlist to find and set things. ioctl uses ioctls. [20:36] atom_fox: here's a SlackBuild for aria2c you can use for 32-bit -> http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/slackware/aria2.SlackBuild [20:36] temp_: are you on the version that shipped with 13 final? [20:36] actually, at least the status bar on the bottom of the wicd says i'm connected to LIBRARY ANNEX but the inside of the window (where the disconnect button is) says i'm connected to [20:36] temp_: That's odd. You might want to try #wicd. [20:36] thrice`, yes, fresh install of slackware 13.0 [20:36] Alan_Hicks, thanks [20:36] thnks man [20:36] temp_: The devs are there, and while they may take awhile to respond, they are very helpful. [20:38] thanks alan i appreciate it [20:38] KrAkOvIc (n=Cool@unaffiliated/krak0vic) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Anytime. Sorry I can't be of more help. [20:40] why are you sorry? you're sacrificing your time to help and you're not being paid to do so. i should be thanking you! 8-) [20:41] 'cause I like being of more help. [20:42] Come back anytime. That kind of attitude will always get you the best assistance I can give you. [20:42] gabomagno (n=gabomagn@CableLink38-32.telefonia.InterCable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:42] well then you can apologize to yourself, not me, since i'm happy to be receiving help at all 8-) [20:42] Nick change: temp_ -> TwinReverb [20:43] ah they say there's still a bug in 1.6.2.1, get 1.6.2.2, so i'll do that [20:43] i'm rebuilding my /home so i had to use an alternate user [20:44] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [20:45] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] hyakki (n=hyakki@adsl-75-45-136-144.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] mingdao: slackbuild has failed me. [20:46] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:46] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] anyone use a htp372n ? icant get it to mount the root fs [20:47] hyakki: what's a "htp372n"? [20:47] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:12f) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:47] hpt372*, its a raid controller from highpoint [20:48] oh. no. [20:48] Hi, I just downloaded Slackware 13 on my pc, everything is great, but i have a Ralink RT2561 wireless card, I can see the wlan0 in ifconfig but I can not see a wireless network and connect, Do you know if there is any issue with this card and slackware? In ubuntu it works fine. [20:49] gabomagno, is wlan0 up? [20:49] (ifconfig wlan0 up) [20:49] yes [20:49] i win HAHA, i figured out where i went wrong w/ slackbuild [20:49] gabomagno: i have the same card, it works with slackware [20:50] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:50] i tried this: iwconfig wlan0 essid MyEssid key s:mykey [20:51] and then I tried with dhclient [20:51] Pig_Pen, it worked out of the box? [20:52] gabomagno: look at /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and rc.wireless.conf in the same dir [20:52] xsamurai (n=munki@71.106.233.110) joined ##slackware. [20:52] or install wicd or maybe wifi-radar [20:53] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:53] wicd +1 [20:53] wicd is now in /extra, BTW [20:54] I tried wicd, but it says: "No wireless networks found" [20:54] or just use the stock networking scripts with wpa_supplicant.conf [20:54] like a real slacker would do. [20:54] ++ [20:55] antiwire, I don't know how to do that, i guess i'm not a real slacker [20:55] first he's gotta get it working, before worrying about encryption (supplicant) [20:55] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:56] chuck norris uses slackware [20:56] Alan_Hicks, thrice` wicd 1.6.2.2 fixed the problem completely [20:57] xsamurai, or does slackware use chuck norris? [20:57] slackware is the chuck norris of the linux distro's [20:57] i built wicd using patrick's own stuff off of extra/source/wicd [20:58] Jennaa (n=Direct01@41.236.13.204) joined ##slackware. [20:59] Chuck Norris uses ubuntu, because he's a girly man. [20:59] Bruce Schneier uses slackware. [20:59] http://www.schneierfacts.com/ [21:00] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [21:00] TwinReverb, you built wicd 1.6.2.2? In the slackdvd i just found 1.6.2.1 [21:00] danc3: you are aware that wpa_supplicant.conf is used for open networks as well right? [21:01] chopp: yes, it can be, but it isn't needed when first trying to get a wifi card going [21:01] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Client Quit [21:01] it's an unneccesary variable when troubleshooting [21:01] gabomagno, it's got a wireless essid bug [21:01] mshade: the only thing chuck would do with ubuntu is give it a sudo chop [21:01] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [21:01] hahaha [21:02] xsamurai: win [21:02] TwinReverb: how you doin? :) [21:02] mshade, good, how are you? [21:02] great :) just bought a house. closing on it tomorrow [21:02] :-D [21:02] cool [21:03] make sure to install a faraday cage and wire drops for Cat6 in every room 8-) [21:03] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] which is totally on topic, because i'll be running slackware there. [21:03] that way you can take your tin foil hat off when you come home 8-) [21:03] i'm definitely going to be running some cat 6 [21:03] the place was just renovated and they ran cable and phone drops, but no net [21:04] im going to replace the phone drops with cat 6 [21:04] you may only need to replace the jacks [21:04] sometimes they wire that stuff using cat5e or so [21:04] i guess because sometimes they're lazy [21:04] nah, i checked, it's actually 4 pair telephone wire to the phone jacks :( [21:04] ah [21:04] SlackWeird (n=slackwar@unaffiliated/slackwared) joined ##slackware. [21:04] or rather 2 pair [21:04] 4 pair would be cat5 :) [21:05] if UTP [21:05] Ouch, that cat3 stuff? [21:05] gm152: nah, just regular 2 pair telephone wire [21:05] mshade, then i would highly recommend you get CAT6 STD [21:05] i don't want no STDs [21:05] er STP [21:05] LOL 8-S [21:05] STP > UTP [21:06] Nick change: SlackWeird -> slackwared [21:06] k [21:06] (i.e. shielded > unshielded) [21:06] i always wondered why they left it unshielded [21:06] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [21:06] i know that the way the pairs are twisted, cancels out any internal noise [21:06] but i wondered why the lack of concern for external noise [21:07] they say that but i don't know if i believe that [21:07] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-99-139-139-104.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] well shielding wouldn't really affect that anyway [21:07] and apparently the only differene between cat5e and cat6 is the way the pairs are twisted [21:07] If properly routed, EMI shouldn't be a concern. [21:07] gm152: right. 90 degree angles crossing any power cables, etc [21:07] i don't know, but i would doubt that internal noise would be an issue, given that even if it is high frequency, it should be low voltage [21:08] anyway, im gonna run cables [21:08] lol] [21:08] i just like the shielded kind because it feels more rugged. it's more my perfectionism than a real need (but you never know) [21:08] i'll compare pricing [21:08] on bulk [21:08] i've seen UHF transmit lines cause EMI problems with what are supposed to be shielded devices [21:08] It's interference from fluorescent lights that affect communications over UTP cable more than EMI. [21:09] luckily this house looks like it'll be pretty easy to route wiring through [21:09] just paint all walls with conductive paint 8-) [21:09] gm152: interesting, makes sense [21:09] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:09] TwinReverb: but then i only have 1 conductor + ground :-p [21:09] IP over morse code [21:09] ftw [21:09] Heh. [21:09] haha [21:09] no i meant for static discharge and faraday cage tin foil hat type fun [21:10] oh [21:10] i figure the place is already bugged [21:10] if all walls and floors are conductive, and it's all connected to earth ground, static discharge don't matter any more [21:10] i'm in DC anyway [21:10] lol [21:10] washington DC? yeah i would assume it's bugged lol [21:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:10] so how's slack 13? haven't tried it yet [21:11] will slackware13 run on a 133MHZ/32mb ram? under basic installation? [21:11] i now see why having huge ISO and VOB on the hard drive is no fun when you want to refresh your /home 8-( [21:11] slackware 13 is nice apart from wicd (but wicd is in /extra so it's not slackware 13.0's fault) [21:11] slackwared: Yeah, likely but forget about X. [21:11] slackboy, uh, yeah, maybe, but why would you want such a machine? what would you use it for/ [21:12] astrocub (n=astrocub@unaffiliated/ibuffy) joined ##slackware. [21:12] s/\//? [21:12] TwinReverb: youre talking to me [21:12] er yeah sorry tab complete [21:12] Action: astrocub needs a better package manager than portage [21:12] vbatts (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] Does http://linux.com/archive/feature/55647 look ok in firefox on slackware 13.0 (32bit) it doesn't for me, but konqueror works [21:12] TwinReverb: dedicated netfilter/router [21:12] the only thing i would use a 133mhz/32mb ram for is playing "odd or even" with the capacitors [21:13] TwinReverb: and its not a real machine, it is a virtual one [21:13] haha [21:13] slackwared, hmm might work but i would use a dedicated solution [21:13] unless you just want to try and make one yourself for the educational value [21:13] dedicated solution meaning a linux distro for turning a box into a router [21:13] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] thats what I just told you [21:14] greetings and salutations [21:14] nille_: yeah, same here. [21:14] greetings andarius, how are you? [21:14] salutations fire|bird, i am well. you ? [21:14] nille_: looks bad in FF, konq it looks fine. [21:14] andarius: great, thanks. [21:15] atom_fox (n=atom_fox@120.28.146.110) left irc: "Leaving" [21:15] with all the holdups of blocking packages, it takes forever to get anything installed [21:15] installing from source is much simpler.. no package conflicts [21:15] anyone use a simple package manager that doesn't have these issues? [21:15] astrocub: You might like SlackBuilds then. [21:15] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.153.153) joined ##slackware. [21:15] slackwared, you'd have to install just the base package set i think, then just like dhcpcd bind iptables routed (i think) [21:16] there's probably a "how to" somewhere online [21:16] thanks fire|bird i guess it's an firefox bug then [21:16] gm152: isn't that like portage overlays? [21:17] astrocub: I'm not familiar with portage. SlackBuilds are scripts that build source packages into Slack packages that are ready to be installed or upgraded. [21:17] Tirili (n=Unknown@dslc-082-083-132-070.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:18] gm152: which sounds awfully like ebuilds for portage [21:18] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.44.74) joined ##slackware. [21:18] #gentoo is thata way -------------> [21:18] Action: astrocub doesn't want #gentoo [21:18] I don't know if you find that to be advantageous or otherwise. [21:18] TwinReverb: yeah I remember some months ago, have tried to install on a real machine 133mhz 32mb slackware 12.2 and it complained about the memory because of hal i think [21:18] i don't [21:18] the ebuild/package blocks are killing me [21:18] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:19] yeah i doubt hal is needed on a machine that small [21:19] like i said, you probably want just enough to get the job done [21:19] Action: chopp looks up at the moon....ahhhhh [21:19] pom says Full Moon. [21:19] zarnick (n=zarnick@unaffiliated/zarnick) joined ##slackware. [21:19] indeed [21:19] firedix (n=firedix@host9.200-45-61.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:20] The Moon is Full <----yup, that'll do it. :) [21:20] firedix: hermano como estas? [21:20] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [21:20] hello, I just installed Slackware 13, the binary nVidia driver, but I can't get past 1280x1024 (and my monitor goes up to 1680x1050), can anyone help me? [21:21] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [21:21] zarnick: make sure the refresh rates are correct for your monitor and then use nvidia-settings to set the resolution. [21:21] lf4, it is, but I can't see the mode on the nvidia-settings [21:21] lf4: got the wifi back. :P [21:22] (at least it is equal on the ubuntu, which works fine) [21:22] zarnick: use gtf to get a modeline and add that as well. [21:22] fire|bird: Thats good to hear :) [21:22] lf4: Now I'm trimming things from boot speed. :D [21:22] fire|bird: on the laptop? [21:23] lf4: yeah [21:23] lf4, I add this on the xorg.conf? [21:23] nice :) [21:23] corvo_ (n=corvo@200.146.45.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:23] yes zarnick under the monitor section [21:23] let me try [21:27] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:27] zarnick (n=zarnick@unaffiliated/zarnick) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:27] zarnick (n=zarnick@unaffiliated/zarnick) joined ##slackware. [21:27] lf4, perfect...thanks :d [21:28] zarnick: :) pleasure [21:28] now let me see if I can get used to KDE [21:28] hehe [21:29] lol KDE is nice but XFce and fluxbox are my favs :D [21:29] kde4 is awesome [21:29] I used to like enlightenment [21:29] then I got used to ubuntu and gnome....I'm very lazy nowadays..heheh [21:29] e16? [21:30] flux is the best [21:30] e14,16 and 17 [21:30] I still run e16 as well as Fluxbox on my boxes. [21:30] fire|bird: Yeah I need to get this system all partitioned and set up so I can mess around with slack64 13.0 :D and KDE4 [21:31] e17 is a master piece [21:31] hyakki (n=hyakki@adsl-75-45-136-144.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:31] lf4: yeah. strigi, or whatever, needs mysql running in kde4, that sort of sucks. :P [21:32] Is e17 stable for you? [21:32] at least when I used it was [21:32] OK. [21:32] lf4: dangit, I borked my laptop keyboard now. ARGH. Thank goodness for backups. (and no, don't start laughing) :P [21:33] the only problem was that I had no time to fiddle around at work...so I installed ubuntu there....got used.... [21:33] fire|bird: Why woudl I laugh? *grins* Looks like you are learning a lot now. [21:33] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] lf4: hahahaha [21:33] fire|bird: How did you mess it up this time? [21:34] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-99-139-139-104.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:34] Ugh... 38mins to download WinSrv 2008. [21:34] lf4: configuring for speed and borked something somehow, the mouse works but keyboard, not even an external usb one, works. :P [21:35] fire|bird: Wow You can deal with no mouse but no keyboard thats difficult to fix. SSHing? [21:35] lf4: no, I still have keyboard at rl3 login, just not after X starts. [21:36] e17 was quite buggy when I tried it long ago. I haven't tried to use it since. [21:36] fire|bird: Oh haha good I was just about to ask how were you able to disable the keyboard from tty? :P Wrong driver for the keyboard maybe? [21:36] _theradar (n=hjhayes@adsl-223-47-29.aep.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:36] gm152, it's good to try it ;) [21:36] you won't regret [21:36] lf4: Shouldn't be, it was all working until I started messing around with it. :P [21:37] one more thing, I have a USB M-Audio as a "external" sound card, how can I put it as a default for the system? (I also have the internal one) [21:37] Last I remember, there's about 10 different modules (so to speak) such as ekge and friends. [21:37] fire|bird: Don't you know the rule? If it works don't fix it, if its broken toss it? Oh wait thats for normal users. [21:37] hum....don't remember how many modules you have now [21:37] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.113.181.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] lf4: and you should know by now, I'm not normal. :P [21:38] I'll investigate e17's current requirements sometime. [21:38] fire|bird: I dont think anyone in this channel is :P speaking of that... has missyjane been in here lately? haha [21:38] earlier today. :P [21:38] lf4: "If it works, don't fix it. If it doesn't, get a bigger hammer" [21:39] y0 alisonken1home [21:39] fire|bird: y0 [21:39] sadly alisonken1home I did that to a few of my PC's lol It was GREAT! :D [21:39] haha [21:39] good stress reliever :) [21:39] m0sh (n=root@201-25-209-253.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:40] You should see the hole dragons breath burns in a PC from 3 feet. [21:40] I kinda of wanted the case to just smash flat but they were the old early 90's ones that seemed to be built like tanks. [21:40] fire|bird: http://imagebin.ca/view/INqADhEd.html :) [21:40] rhys: What?!? Where [21:40] Just make sure its an old shotgun your using, its hell on the barrels. [21:40] gm152, you still have a LOT of dependencies, but they have a script (get_e.sh or something like it) that downloads, builds and install ;) [21:40] lf4: dragons breath is basically a thermite filled shotgun shell. [21:41] zarnick: Good to know, thanks. [21:41] deco: hey, nice. :) [21:41] np [21:41] rhys: Hahaha you wont catch me shooting that. But that is cool sounding. [21:41] Doesn't burn through the heavy metal of old servers, but damn does it melt everything else. [21:41] Its illegal in this state. Not that anyone would notice... [21:41] which state? [21:41] Easier than building GNOME with all its dependencies. [21:41] OH [21:41] fire|bird: thanks, im gonna mainly use kde 4 now :P [21:42] awesome [21:42] deco: Ohh kde4 looks nice :) [21:42] KDE4 is pretty well done. Dolphin expecially. [21:42] rhys: I see lol I bet its not legal in many states. [21:42] lf4: indeed espicially with that nice wallpaper :P [21:42] the question though: is vista trying to look like KDE4 or is KDE4 trying to look like vista? [21:42] I run KDE4 on my desktops. [21:43] TwinReverb: which was out first? :P [21:43] TwinReverb: hmm you mean windows 7 ? :P [21:43] I had to drop KDE4 at work due to inferior Intel 810 chipsets. [21:43] anyone use pkgutils or pkgsrc? [21:43] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [21:43] the intel chipsets aren't meant for graphics acceleration [21:43] TwinReverb: Vista was out first, but true transparency is built into the KDE4's framework [21:43] TwinReverb: true lol I'll try kde4 but I am willing to bet after 1-4 days I'll be back on xfce [21:43] er, hardware at least [21:43] I have noticed! :) [21:44] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:44] ferdl (n=phiezer@p549836F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "we are upgrading /dev/null" [21:44] iirc the intel chipsets were meant for low power consumption [21:44] But if you aren't going to run KDE4, say because you have an intel chipset/netbook, why run xfce? Why not run a a tiling WM? [21:44] imho if kde4 "needs" decent graphica hardware to run it, it's only more reason i don't run kde4 (i run xfce instead) [21:45] Fluxbox is quite suitable. [21:45] granted i love most the kde applications, and i am especially fond of kmail/kontact [21:45] TwinReverb: if you have it why not run it? [21:45] TwinReverb: i had really crappy nvidia geforce 32mb card and it runs fine :P [21:45] i have* [21:45] rhys, i don't understand? [21:46] what slackware users use to handle packages? [21:46] i just can't run any of the effects if i want a stable DE [21:46] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:46] astrocub, the package manager built into slackware [21:46] astrocub: slackpkg, upgradepkg, removepkg, pkgtools, etc. [21:46] by default nothing, but is there a majority of users which use a certain pkg management system? [21:46] oh [21:46] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [21:46] TwinReverb: it just seems strange to me, if you have the hardware, use it. Graphics/CPU/Ram are all cheap as hell and crazy powerful anymore. So unless you care about battery/laptop/old machine usage, why NOT run something like KDE4? [21:47] well fwiw kde4 runs fine on my laptop (intel graphics 945) but too slow for my happiness [21:47] i don't see a reason to buy new hardware unless you really need it. but when it does break, 500$ gets you quad core. [21:47] http://imagebin.org/62410 [21:47] since the dw notice (and a /. link, I think), I'm beginning to notice more questions about slackware :) [21:47] KDE4 apps are slick for the most part but I don't care for the KDE desktop. [21:47] rhys, because i care about battery/laptop 8-) [21:47] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [21:47] i have the hardware , nice nvidia gfx card mostly used for gaming once in awhile but i still run flux [21:47] lf4: that looks good. [21:47] TwinReverb: which is what i said. [21:48] my friend has a quad core already, linux is hella fast on it [21:48] fire|bird: Thanks :) its my server. [21:48] rhys, i was teasing you because you said "why not" but then listed my reason why i don't 8-) [21:48] TwinReverb: barbarbar. Don't poke a bear. [21:49] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:49] forget bears, don't poke a Liger 8-) [21:49] My why not was conditional! you are a bad parser TwinReverb. who taught you to read, a MS Compiler? [21:49] who taught you how to properly construct sentences? 8-P "my why not was conditional!" [21:50] so #windows is useless. anyone know of a way to make windows automatic install on 15-20 completely hardware different machines? [21:50] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.38.40) left irc: Success [21:50] rhys: windows is useless period :P [21:50] rhys, #2cpu [21:50] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:50] there are some windows client/server techs in there, they should be able to answer that [21:50] TwinReverb: Bears don't read. They vaguely comprehend, then maul everything. [21:51] rhys: when you go in there ask about RIS and unatteneded install. [21:52] yelsn (n=none@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) left ##slackware. [21:52] There's nLite too. [21:52] rhys: you've certainly have gotten your facts mixed up , winnie the poo and smokey are both literate [21:53] gm152: Yea, I know of making multiple drive windows cds and PE even. But its not automated [21:53] xsamurai: tell that to a bear you meet in the woods. [21:53] rhys: With your logic he wouldn't be able to tell him because the bear wouldn't understand. :P [21:54] lf4: thus after being mauled, he would understand my point [21:54] Gulug (n=sartori@201-95-17-43.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:54] i don't think winnie has the capacity to maul someone, he seems to be a wimp [21:54] bears only bite when you touch their private parts [21:55] TwinReverb: plus no claws. [21:55] xsamurai: And you know this from experiance? :P [21:55] Anarxi (n=Deividas@c-24-13-181-37.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [21:55] Oh god. Poor winnie. [21:56] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [21:56] ....= (, he never saw it coming [21:56] i mean, how strong or scary is a fat mealy-mouthed mousy wimpy fat bear who eats honey all day and sings songs? [21:57] No wonder #debian keeps their geeks so on-topic. [21:57] TwinReverb: try touching his honey pot [21:57] TwinReverb: A bear that sings all day... That is scary. [21:57] xsamurai, he goes through withdrawals, not into a rage [21:57] rhys: huh? [21:58] "Oh god dont let them not talk about Linux! They are 20 lines away from Bear Molestation!" [21:58] Jennaa (n=Direct01@41.236.13.204) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:58] speak for yourselves [21:58] Ret (n=FUCK@pool-72-88-97-107.bflony.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] Haha wow I just read the ^^^ name as F Pooh [21:59] Um, I'm currently about do download Slack 13. What CD would I need for just the core... like, slackware and the XFCE desktop? [21:59] Or do I --NEED-- all of them? [21:59] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:59] Ret: you need all of them and 2 of them you must fine by having a hour long conversation with slackboy. [21:59] i think xfce is on cd #2 [22:00] must find* [22:00] Ret: 1,2 and 3 are safe bets, really 1 if you want a min system. [22:00] Ret: just download the dvd and install everything :) [22:00] Don't have a DVD drive, lol. Only have 2 blank CD's D: [22:00] Ret: oh :P [22:00] i would recommend the dvd if you can [22:00] Ret: Then CD 1 and 2 :D [22:00] Okies. [22:00] Thanks (: And is it difficult to dualboot slack with winxp if winxp is already installed? [22:00] if not, all cds (1 & 2 initially, 3 afterwards just in case you want kde) [22:01] it's not difficult to dual book slack and windows xp: the installer takes care of that for you [22:01] but even if it didn't, with LILO adding an entry for windows XP is very easy [22:01] Wait, is Slack 13 cLI install or is it GUI now? [22:01] There's an installer for dual booting?!?! When was this developed? ;D [22:01] CLI installed (ncurses type interface) [22:02] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.16) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:02] Ret: It has window managers, you just wont have KDe because its on cd 3 [22:02] zarnick (n=zarnick@unaffiliated/zarnick) left irc: "Leaving" [22:02] Ret: what's a gui? and btw - it's ncurses, not cli [22:02] alisonken1home: GUI, like Debian and Fedora have a graphical install. [22:03] eww graphical install :P [22:03] CLI as in some of the manual stuff you do (especially if you use README_CRYPT.TXT) is there, then the setup program itself is curses [22:03] and curses is just a way to make CLI act like it's graphical using special extended characters anyways [22:03] think old-school norton utilities / scandisk / defrag [22:03] O.O [22:03] I have a feeling I'm in way over my head lol [22:03] like DOS 6 i think [22:03] nah it's rather easy [22:04] if you have a second computer you can read the slackbook online while you do this, and/or talk to us on IRC, we'll walk you through it [22:04] Mkay. [22:04] Ret: It's not as daunting as you might think. :) [22:04] Ret: cli means _every_ command is typed. ncurses is a text-based menu system. there's a difference [22:04] hba (n=hba@189.188.147.239) joined ##slackware. [22:05] does the slack package manager have blocks on certain packages? [22:05] I can't believe I'm gonna format Windows AGAIN on my slow ass connection =\ Took me like 3 days to download mah games and it all goes down the drain :P [22:05] to prevent the system from going bonkers... [22:05] astrocub, blocks? huh? [22:05] cli = command line interface [22:05] Ret: Do you have a second system? [22:05] e.g. "these two packages cannot be on the same system" [22:05] "go f yourself" essentially [22:05] astrocub: in slackware you have total control :D [22:06] lf4: Yeah, I do. It's gonna take me a while to DL Slack disks 1+2, and then get IRC on that computer upstairs :P [22:06] astrocub, not that i am aware, you can sometimes accidentally install a package you already have installed (but then you basically reinstalled it so i don't see a problem) [22:06] it's a tough choice between slack and lfs [22:06] astrocub: slackware assumes you _want_ to install the package. it's up to you to figure out if there's an issue between packages [22:06] astrocub, can you tell us what specifics? [22:06] Ret: If it has the harddrive space you can create an image of your system you plan on installing slackware to, that way you can always revert back if you need to. [22:07] i miss jolt. [22:07] Don't really wanna convert back, I want to install Linux and stay here for a while. [22:07] I don't. folger's is good enough for me [22:07] Ret: Sounds good :) you'll be learning a lot and mistakes are good because they help you remember things more. [22:08] I've been on Debian for a while, and I came back to Windows for my CAL team. But we disbanded so I want to stay here :D [22:08] Ret: Here is what the slackware install looks like. http://slackbook.org/html/installation-setup.html [22:08] TwinReverb: you want specifics, how cute. http://pastebin.com/m9b7aeda http://pastebin.com/m9b7aeda http://dpaste.com/89333/ [22:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:09] CAL - client access licences? ugh .. [22:09] what is that, gentoo? [22:09] TwinReverb: yeah [22:09] CAL = [22:09] slackware != gentoo [22:09] lol [22:09] there are no blocks that i know of [22:09] TwinReverb: you asked for specifics, this is why i want switch, there ya go [22:09] TwinReverb: thank Eris [22:10] it's all good [22:10] TwinReverb: appreciate teh mention of #2cpu [22:10] Cyberathlete Amateur League [22:10] = CAL [22:10] OK. [22:10] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:11] gaming team :P [22:11] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [22:12] xsamurai (n=munki@71.106.233.110) left irc: "Leaving." [22:12] gabomagno (n=gabomagn@CableLink38-32.telefonia.InterCable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:14] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:14] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: "l8r" [22:15] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [22:17] http://d4wiki.goddamm.it/index.php?title=Howto:_Mac_OSX_on_KVM [22:17] is possible to emulate macosx as this wiki? [22:18] virtualize I mean [22:18] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@24.64.107.189) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [22:19] TwinReverb (n=temp@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [22:22] powtrix: its on the goddamnit wiki isnt it? 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[22:28] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [22:28] Hey talking sandwich (Quiznos) How is everything? [22:29] lf4 eh, s'ok; how you? [22:29] saw my mommy today [22:29] Flying Spagetthi Praise to fellow god Talking Sandwich! [22:29] heh [22:29] rhys hey how ya doin? [22:29] Quiznos: Going well here :) Oh thats nice you enjoy that? [22:29] alive and no longer jobless. [22:30] thanks to a nice developer in ##slackware [22:30] rhys vkool [22:30] good [22:30] lf4 she's well; her husband is better; dr. said new veins grew to avoid blockage. amazing. [22:30] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [22:31] Quiznos: Thats good news :) [22:31] If only we could build computers like that. where the default state is to work, not become a cold lump of metal. [22:31] yea; prayer and body does (can do) amazing things [22:31] heh [22:31] yea rhys [22:31] construction workers cut a fiber line? fook that, the fiber line jumps out, kills everone and hooks itself back together. [22:32] i dont kow that i'd want jmping fiber [22:32] rhys: I wouldn't want to be the guy who pulled that fiber lol [22:32] but i do wish the fon.com would lock their control boxes on the street [22:32] heh [22:32] snakey [22:32] lf4: gives a whole new meaning to "call before you dig" [22:32] heh [22:33] lol yeah [22:33] x11 is still giving me hearteache [22:34] ache [22:34] hald isnt providing good info; no info on mice connected [22:34] heartache? pray to the God of Slackware [22:34] heh [22:34] Bob Dobbs. :D [22:35] pat doesnt make house calls afaik [22:35] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [22:36] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [22:37] Slackware is Linux for the SubGenius. Obviously Bob Dobbs will help [22:37] k [22:37] Quiznos: what kinda mouse you have connected? [22:38] wired and usb wireless [22:38] wired = usb? [22:38] or ps2 [22:38] wired ps2, wireless x [22:38] why two mice? [22:39] that's probably not helping much [22:39] heh [22:39] http://ubuntard.com/2009/09/the-many-breeds-of-ubuntards/ [22:40] they are on diff dev/paths, they dont interact with each other [22:40] but why two? [22:40] the newer is wireless, small desk. [22:40] and perhaps they *do* interact... [22:40] they dont; they workd before 13 [22:40] x11 had no prob [22:40] have you tried things with only one mouse? [22:41] why do you need 2 mice? [22:41] superGear answered; wireless need alot less room [22:41] ok so use the wireless and ditch the other [22:41] then just use wireless [22:41] this is troubleshooting 101, btw [22:41] again, why use 2 mice? [22:41] J4CK (n=DepecheM@adsl190-28-142-96.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [22:41] hald doesnt have info on either; so your sugg is moot [22:42] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:42] the mice dont interact/interfere [22:42] you still haven't answered the question [22:42] repost [22:42] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [22:42] why do you need two mice? [22:42] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too we" [22:42] Why do you need to use 2 mice?! [22:43] there [22:43] just curious [22:43] the question is bogus, gentlemen; i have two because they dont interact with other and I didnt unplug the first (wired) [22:43] didnt get around to... [22:43] well, UNPLUG THE FUCKING WIRED ONE [22:43] this is troubleshooting 101, btw [22:44] jeeez [22:44] that's NOT the problem [22:44] did you cat ? [22:44] ok I'm done [22:44] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] cat /dev/input/mice or whatever [22:45] hald doesnt have info on mice that it was able to provide BEFORE upgrade to 13 [22:45] hi people [22:45] so when x starts, there's no kbd and no mice input. [22:45] hi thom [22:46] well fix it [22:46] Quiznos: how come this only seems to be happening to you, I wonder... [22:46] this isn't your granddaddy's X [22:46] i had no problems upgrading to 13 [22:46] take one of those mice off, and restart X [22:46] just humor us and try it [22:47] ok hold... [22:47] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [22:49] J4CK (n=DepecheM@adsl190-28-142-96.epm.net.co) left irc: "Saliendo" [22:50] m0sh (n=root@201-25-209-253.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:50] unplug; startx didnt succeed [22:51] do you have an xorg.conf? [22:51] lshal still doesnt show any mouse info [22:51] yes [22:51] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-169.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] is there anything about a mouse in that xorg.conf? [22:51] yes [22:51] y0 slackers...How's everyone? [22:52] fine [22:52] We are all doing horrible since you joined [22:52] Quiznos: have you tried deleting/moving/renaming xorg.conf and starting X without the file? [22:52] yes [22:52] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:53] lol,superGear [22:53] Quiznos: did you do an Upgrade or a Clean install? [22:53] even down grading to 12.2 [22:53] MLanden: I'm good, you? [22:53] Quiznos: what are you using for the "Option "Device" line? [22:53] upgraded initially [22:53] doin' great,hitest thanks [22:53] Is kdelibs for KDE3 available for Slackware64 13? [22:53] probably not [22:53] Quiznos: I'd back up your home dir and do a clean install [22:54] since slackware64 never had kde 3.5 did it? [22:54] auto proto; device /dev/mouse atm; also have "/ps2", "imps/2", "input/mice" [22:54] MLanden: you're welcome:) good to hear, man. I'm doing quite well myself.....drinking this evening;) [22:54] Quiznos: you might try /dev/psmouse [22:54] or /dev/psaux [22:54] hitest: cool weather for the evenin' in BC? [22:54] Quiznos: have you tried modprobing the evdev module and then using "/dev/input/eventX" where X is the correct device event node? [22:54] for the Option device line [22:55] MLanden: not bad actually, 15 degrees C:) [22:55] what temp is that in "real" temp? [22:55] timothias (i=timothia@cpe-075-183-098-228.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:56] danc3: define "real" [22:56] F [22:56] lol [22:56] ah [22:56] timothias (i=timothia@cpe-075-183-098-228.triad.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [22:56] apparently danc3 can't use google convert [22:56] I used to know the formula to convert, but I"m lazy tonight [22:56] 15 x 2.2= [22:57] xinit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0: undefined symbol: _xcb_lock_io [22:57] 33 [22:57] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:57] that's not it [22:57] That's probably wrong [22:57] evdev was already loaded [22:57] lol [22:57] Quiznos: you might try /dev/psmouse [22:57] or /dev/psaux [22:57] Quiznos: Is /dev/input/* populated? [22:57] 60's not bad...'bout 18C here in Virginia but wet [22:57] just a sec [22:58] no hlpe on psmouse [22:58] psaux [22:58] populated and by-id and by-path too [22:58] danc3: 59 [22:58] thx [22:58] Quiznos: if you want ot try to use the /dev/input/eventX for the device look at this output: ls -alh /dev/input/by-path/platform-i8042-serio-* [22:58] chilly [22:58] np [22:59] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/freenode/x-fpclmuqrpratvbwv) left ##slackware. [22:59] or just ls /dev/input/by-path/* -alh [22:59] AUDIT: client 1 rejected from local host [22:59] that from varlog [23:00] we have no context for that [23:00] what did you do to make that happen? [23:00] J4CK (n=DepecheM@adsl190-28-142-96.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [23:00] Quiznos: I think you've got a borked install [23:00] nothing special [23:00] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:00] nothing special....so what did you do? [23:00] ok that possibility in consideration [23:00] nothing that i havent done for years [23:00] Quiznos: Are you purposely making this difficult for us to help you or a reason or what? [23:01] antiwire i am not lying. [23:01] he's had a borked box for days now [23:01] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [23:01] is it normal for nepomuk to run in 300,000kb? [23:01] Quiznos: log off of IRC, back up /home, and reinstall clean. Then come back here and tell us that everything is working fine. Buh-bye. [23:01] actually 300,000K [23:01] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.44.74) left irc: "Leaving" [23:02] surrealgirl: could be, nepomuk is what works with strigi, etc. to index all of /home [23:02] surrealgirl: wtf is 'nepomuk"? [23:02] danc3, if you dunno, you arent using the latest slackware [23:02] danc3: kde4 stuff for indexing. [23:02] fire|bird, hm alright why not just updatedb? [23:02] surrealgirl: I sure am [23:02] apparently danc3 also doesn't know much about kde4 [23:02] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] surrealgirl: you make the (wrong) assumption that I'm using KDE [23:02] as does antiwire [23:02] i wasnt making an assumption [23:02] yes you certainly were [23:03] surrealgirl: this is different than updatedb, it's for indexing for desktop search which looks into e-mails and everything. [23:03] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Excess Flood [23:03] I didn't assume you were using kde4. I clearly said you don't know much about it. [23:03] fire|bird, looking into more detail atm [23:03] antiwire++ [23:03] surrealgirl: because I am using Slack13 but have no idea what that app is [23:03] antiwire: same thing [23:03] nepomuk is desktop search, strigi is what does the indexing for nepomuk [23:03] although I admit to not knowing much about it, having never used KDE [23:04] fire|bird, do you suggest i turn it off? i dont use tagging nor do i think ill find any use in "Desktop Search", not sure what it is [23:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:04] surrealgirl: in kde4 System Settings, you can disable it if you want. [23:04] why would anyone want bloatware like "desktop search" on their system, anyway? [23:04] what would i lose? [23:04] surrealgirl: You wouldn't lose anything. [23:04] LOL [23:04] noob [23:04] ah [23:04] danc3, go troll elsewhere [23:04] hehe [23:04] I think danc3 is drunk, or on the way [23:04] nope [23:04] pretty sure, yeah [23:05] another wrong assumption, that's two [23:05] J4CK (n=DepecheM@adsl190-28-142-96.epm.net.co) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:05] mmhmm [23:05] "Desktop Search"... ROFL [23:06] locate + find = all you need [23:06] if your desktop is that cluttered, you should clean it up [23:06] sounds like a Windoze thing [23:06] oh man that was funny! he said "Windoze" with a z and an e instead of a w and an s! hahaha [23:06] mshade: for the most part, yes, but this indexes e-mails, etc. as well, locate + find does not and some people find that useful. [23:06] oh man that was awesome [23:07] hahaha antiwire i am dying from laughing here [23:07] my stomach hurts [23:07] hehe [23:07] fire|bird: doesn't the email client index the emails? [23:07] antiwire btw; kernel knows of mice. kernel easily distinguished the two. [23:07] Quiznos: so they are at least showing up in dmesg? [23:07] If I want to search for a saved email, I use my email client... WOW [23:08] antiwire yes; that's another reason why i dint unplug [23:08] Quiznos: ok, I wasn't the one who said unplug it though [23:08] danc3: This indexing is beyond "I got e-mail for abc@123.com" it indexes every workd in the e-mail in order to search for words that might be in an e-mail. [23:08] i know; but you're the only one who hasnt explicitly given up. [23:08] Quiznos: lol [23:08] :) [23:08] fire|bird: doesn't an email client do that? [23:09] antiwire, reading the wiki of it, it looks much more useful than just a search tool really [23:09] erm fire|bird [23:09] danc3: I think some do, but not all. [23:09] brb; reading forum posts of hald/x11/mice probs [23:09] fire|bird: I think any of them worth using would do that [23:09] surrealgirl: It can be, yes. It can also slow the pc down if you don't have a decent system. [23:09] hald is also implicated in forum posts [23:10] fire|bird, im on 32bit (capped ram) so not sure how that is affecting me [23:10] if any [23:10] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-235-186.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [23:11] surrealgirl: how long has it been in index mode and using up that much memory? [23:11] surrealgirl: It may not be, if you are doing something else that is intensive, strigi halts itself so as to not affect whatever else you are doing. [23:11] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-235-186.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [23:11] fire|bird: maybe i'm a simpleton, but when searching for text within files i'll usually grep -r a string. i can see how the indexing helps, but i don't usually like a daemon to just hammer my hard drive searching for changes and new text [23:11] surrealgirl: it's Windows-style bloat/crap ware [23:11] dang another winner of a comment [23:11] only a n00b would use such a thing [23:11] mshade: yeah, I completely see your point, but to some it is a very useful too. [23:11] mshade has it right [23:11] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.38.40) joined ##slackware. [23:12] antiwire, i didnt touch anything, default mode [23:12] antiwire: Do you know off hand what package (if any) provides the rc.d directory? [23:12] fire|bird: sure. it's just not for me :) and apparently not danc3 either [23:12] surrealgirl: ok, but how long have you noticed it using up those resources? [23:12] fire|bird, yeah its a very intuitive desktop, i have to admit that, they werent kidding when they said they rewrote the whole thing [23:12] mshade: yeah, I understand, it's not for everyone. [23:12] surrealgirl: I ask this because it will probably chill out after it is done indexing [23:12] antiwire, a couple of hours [23:12] ROFL [23:13] antiwire, from around 6 to now, i saw it at 300k and thought it would go away, i never bothered cause i was busy with cooking and cleaning [23:13] the girls were hungry so i was like "ok ill check later" [23:13] ok something is either wrong or something is preventing it from finishing [23:13] surrealgirl: did you get my shirt ironed? [23:13] ... [23:13] surrealgirl: Do you see the icon for strigi in the system tray? move your mouse over it, what does the status say? [23:14] says its idle [23:14] i.e. it's not indexing atm [23:14] yet system activity say its 300mb (out of 3.2gb) [23:14] something isn't right. [23:14] that's just normal KDE bloat [23:14] hm strange, what can i do? [23:14] It shouldn't be taking that much at idle [23:14] use Xfce [23:15] how much should it be at? [23:15] 0 [23:15] antiwire where do the files come from for /etc/hal/*/*? [23:15] fire|bird: glitched socket,perhaps? [23:15] fire|bird, antiwire ive never turned off my computer for several weeks or so, maybe that has to do with it? [23:15] surrealgirl: at idle, should be really low, if not at 0 I would think. [23:15] surrealgirl: that could be it, could try a restart and see. [23:16] Quiznos: I think the examples and defaults come from /usr/share/hal/fdi [23:16] ok [23:16] MLanden: could be. [23:16] lol, she's the one who claims to be using S13, but hasn't rebooted....? LOL [23:16] MLanden: you don't know what package provides rc.d directory, do you? :P [23:16] was that "lol" or "LOL"? [23:16] which is more wild? the caps one? [23:17] antiwire: the caps one is like wild shouting laughter. :P [23:17] sysvinit ? But packages that populate rc.d/* would contribute. [23:17] antiwire etc/hal is empty cept for dirs; files in share/hal [23:17] hmm,fire|bird? [23:17] fire|bird the first thing i do on a fresh slack install is copy all of /etc to another part of the drive for safe keeping (usually /home) [23:17] Quiznos: you can copy files out of the usr path and modify them for use in the etc paths [23:18] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [23:18] antiwire is that a req? [23:18] RipVanWinkle: yeah, this is on my laptop, I had been messing in the rc.* stuff for speed and now my keyboard doesn't work at all. I reverted to the backup of what it was before and the keyboard still doesn't work. :/ [23:18] Quiznos: in changes and hints, looks at item #4 under the hal section [23:18] ok [23:18] nyRednek (n=yosi@68.25.227.57) joined ##slackware. [23:19] even a reboot? [23:19] RipVanWinkle: yup, done several of those, I don't know what the heck. Everything is back how it was. [23:19] antiwire, fire|bird im a bit hesitant on rebooting lol it would ruin my uptime xD [23:19] well sometimes it just needs to happen [23:19] surrealgirl: Well, better than letting whatever sit and eat your ram [23:20] true brb [23:20] surrealgirl: how are you running Slack13 for weeks if you haven't rebooted? [23:20] if one reboot does not fix it then it wont do any good to reboot more [23:20] RipVanWinkle: Everything works up until X starts, luks password prompt it's fine, rl3 login it's fine, X starts, it doesn't work. [23:20] fire|bird: what were you messing with before the keyobard glitched? [23:20] MLanden: rc.M [23:20] MLanden: and now that is back to how it was, I backed it up first [23:20] bad idea to mess with rc.M or rc.S [23:21] silly, actually [23:21] danc3: it is easily possible if someone was using -current previously. You wouldn't have needed to reboot the system since that last kernel change in -current. If that is is case here or not, I don't know but it is possible to say "weeks"... [23:21] fire|bird: that could do it [23:21] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [23:21] antiwire: true. However, do you think someone capable of running -current, and doing what you said, would be asking a question such as she was...? Really? [23:22] Didn't I just say "If that is is case here or not, I don't know but it is possible to say "weeks"... [23:22] yes, you did, but that doesn't answer my question [23:22] *SHE* said she hadn't rebooted for weeks [23:22] not "somebody" [23:22] I wasn't commenting on the anyone else. I was commenting on what you said. [23:22] MLanden: yeah, but now it's back to 100% how it was before, and keyboard doesn't work once X starts. [23:23] antiwire: just answer my question, would ya? [23:23] I did answer your question by saying I don't know. [23:23] yeah. OK. whatever. [23:23] I answered it before you even had asked it. [23:23] fire|bird: any errors in the logs? [23:23] you know I'm right [23:23] firedix (n=firedix@host9.200-45-61.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:23] MLanden: nope, nothing [23:24] fire|bird: but it does work in console,right? [23:24] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [23:24] MLanden: yeah [23:24] MLanden: so something X related somewhere [23:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [23:25] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [23:25] alright [23:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:25] now its at 68k [23:25] and idle [23:25] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] surrealgirl: that's better. [23:25] looks like it,fire|bird...anything out-of-sorts with xorg.conf? [23:26] firedix (n=firedix@host9.200-45-61.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:26] MLanden: no, I even tried removing xorg.conf completely, making a new one with X -configure, no dice. [23:27] fire|bird: what keyboard are you using? [23:27] MLanden: It's the one on my laptop. External one is the same way though. [23:28] MLanden: so, something X, yet not xorg.conf, related apparently. :P [23:28] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:28] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:29] fire|bird: sound like it [23:29] antiwire: bout time [23:29] fire|bird: any changes to the keymap? [23:30] no [23:30] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.113.181.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left ##slackware. [23:30] chopp: no shit ;) [23:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:32] fire|bird: i'm stumped..good luck in the solution [23:32] MLanden: haha, thanks. This sure is an odd one. :P [23:33] :) [23:33] Nick change: surrealgirl -> missyjane [23:34] fire|bird: If there was a way you could use xev in console during the X session [23:34] temp (n=temp@61.43.249.3) joined ##slackware. [23:34] MLanden: Not really, keyboard doesn't work at all in X so I don't know how I'd start it. [23:35] ok ty fire|bird, antiwire [23:35] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [23:35] MLanden: The mouse works great, just not the keyboard. :P [23:35] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] Also, when I start kde4, I get a message about "KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed" Is that any help as to something going on? [23:37] depends on which sound devices they were [23:37] if it's complaining about ESound, ignore that [23:37] fire|bird: hear ya..good luck [23:37] and, the battery monitor in kde4 is just an empty battery with a red X. :/ [23:38] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:38] fire|bird, did you set it up yet? [23:38] iirc you need to set up what it has [23:38] kinda like a qt4 vs gtk theme battle,fire|bird? [23:39] temp: yes, this was ALL working fine before. You joined after I've explained everything. :P [23:39] Action: temp shrugs "my badd" [23:40] MLanden: lol, a battle with everything atm it seems. :P [23:40] fire|bird: so,it seems [23:40] laters good people, sleepytime for me [23:40] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:42] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:42] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.38.40) left irc: Connection timed out [23:43] MLanden your "stumped" line is a macro, isnt it? [23:44] good night, Slackers;) [23:44] gn [23:44] night hitest [23:44] nite Quiznos, fire|bird [23:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:45] fire|bird is etc/hal/*/* populated? [23:46] yeah [23:46] k [23:47] fire|bird grep x.log for "disable" [23:47] Quiznos: Hmm, wait a sec, is /etc/hal/fdi/information and preprobe suppose to have something in them? [23:47] Quiznos: lol...it should be..;P [23:47] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:47] monev (n=monev@adsl-64-237-234-237.prtc.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:48] fire|bird your prob doesnt pass my sniff test; seems somehow related to mine [23:48] MLanden yep [23:50] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:3db) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:50] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:3db) joined ##slackware. [23:52] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [23:52] Action: brbrbr warmly greet everybody [23:53] that seemed cold to me, try again. :P [23:54] according to amarok there are no covers for appetite for destruction by guns 'n' roses [23:54] on amazon [23:55] fire|bird duno; antiwire says empty dirs would default to usr/share/hal [23:55] fire|bird resniffing; nop, still doesnt smell right :) [23:55] Quiznos: yeah, I got it fixed. [23:55] how? [23:56] Quiznos: I have no idea how this happened, but rc.hald was empty, completely. Thankfully, there was an rc.hald.orig that was fine. [23:56] whoa, hold on. [23:56] still doesn't work in X though [23:56] o; well i know mine is filled [23:56] argh [23:56] ok; dcc me your x.log pls? [23:57] hmm .orig sounds like the file was moved with slackpkg. [23:57] BP{k}: yeah, but how'd it become empty? [23:58] and gosh darn it why is my keyboard still not working in X? :P [23:58] fire|bird would you send me your x.log? [23:58] I've looked through that already, there's nothing helpful there. [23:58] k [23:59] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-" [23:59] BP{k}: any ideas what else to check that would involve the keyboard? [00:00] --- Fri Sep 4 2009