[00:00] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] anything fun going on? [00:04] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: No route to host [00:04] majikman (n=adam@ip65-44-150-234.z150-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [00:06] oh for sho [00:06] SunDragon (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [00:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:07] LinuxyErin, i had a test! [00:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:07] a test on what? [00:07] VHDL [00:07] how'd it go [00:07] good for me.. [00:08] not so for everyone else... [00:08] lol [00:08] i finished in an hour and a half, after 2 hours still nobody else finished [00:08] (class of ~20) [00:09] and i HATE writing code on paper [00:09] lol [00:09] i hate printing it too [00:09] yea me too [00:09] what is vhdl like anyway [00:09] i've never seen it [00:09] LinuxyErin, its for hardware, so in inherently parallel [00:10] hmm [00:10] like you do x <= a + b;, and it does not evaluate it now, it schedules the action for the future and executes all other lines of code [00:11] then processes the scheduled stuff, and executes all code again [00:11] so you can write to x, and then read from it at the same time...makes a lot of issues with timing too [00:12] majikman (n=adam@ip65-44-150-234.z150-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:12] anyways there are some example on the wiki [00:13] hmm [00:14] i didn't like arch and org lol [00:14] and we didnt even do vhdl really [00:14] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:16] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. 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[00:33] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:35] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [00:41] lol this chat in ubuntu-women is so funny [00:41] some little 12 year old came in there [00:41] and somehow we got talking about religion and stuff [00:41] and he's a creationist lol [00:41] Lmao [00:42] lol he acts all smart with linux and stuff [00:42] chilkewar (n=chilkewa@203.115.66.162) joined ##slackware. [00:42] man [00:42] why is it surprising that a 12-year old believes god created the world? [00:42] lol [00:42] ubuntu is so full of shit i cant even stay in their channels [00:42] haha [00:42] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:43] its surprising that there is a self proclaimed linux guru who is a creationist haha [00:43] lol [00:44] it would only be funnier if he was a biologist [00:44] huh? i bet there are linux veterans in here who believe in creationism :P [00:44] i am full roman catholic [00:44] but i am atheist really [00:44] lol [00:45] fevel (n=fevel@201.19.193.235) left irc: [00:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:47] a 12-year old biologist? it's nice to see your mind at work. [00:47] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [00:47] lol [00:48] i think you are what they call a recovering catholic, lw0x15 [00:49] nah [00:49] i like roman catholic [00:49] but just too much restrictions [00:49] so fuck that [00:49] LinuxyErin, why is that surprising? [00:51] people assume way too much [00:51] i like roman catholic, but just too many restrictions, so fuck that....... wow. einsteins this evening. [00:51] antler: its 6am [00:51] sure eisten :P [00:51] 6am? [00:51] Action: BP{k} goes for the laphroaig. [00:51] o hi BP{k} [00:51] lw0x15: oh hai. :) [00:52] :] [00:52] i am off anyway [00:52] going fishing lol [00:52] being in an ubuntu channel is rarely productive unless your question is trivial! [00:52] lw0x15: sick fuck :) [00:52] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [00:52] hah [00:52] okay, since we seem awake now, does anyone know where to find a cookie server? [00:52] lordi (n=chatzill@125.37.165.58) left ##slackware. [00:53] deadowl: gf is alseep sorry ;) [00:53] preferably a cookie server with math stuff because there's this girl that loves math and always makes us cookies. [00:54] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-96-184.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:55] hey guys is there anyway to stop dhcp polling for eth0 on start up [00:56] netconf? [00:56] roccity_: yes [00:56] BP{k}: ok sorry how do I stop it [00:57] roccity_: configure your system, not to use dhcp [00:57] BP{k}: wouldn't I need that for my wireless though? [00:57] dhcp? [00:57] roccity_: I wouldn't know your network layout. [00:58] roccity_: is it pretty much just your PC? [00:58] BP{k}: I use a wireless nic for my internet so I left dhcp on as I thought it would use it for that [00:58] BP{k}: laptop [00:59] okay [01:00] Have you tried netconfig? [01:00] deadowl: I have used it in the inital install [01:00] I'm not much of a slackware person, but I have to deal with two slackware boxes. [01:00] try using it again? [01:01] I don't mind turning off dhcp I just think that I need it for my wireless [01:01] deadowl: [01:01] deadowl: ok [01:01] roccity_: *if* your wireless nick requires dhcp to get an ip address, *then* leave it on. *Else* turn it off. You are the admin, you should know what your network needs. [01:01] yea, generally you want dhcp for your wireless. [01:01] especially if you travel with your laptop [01:02] roccity_, wicd. done. [01:02] i really need to install wtf [01:02] wicd [01:02] it's in /extra [01:03] pattwo (n=pat@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:04] i really wish this computer had more memory [01:05] deadowl: BP{k} I tried turning off dhcp in netconfig but it kill the network [01:05] "oops" [01:05] hiptobecubic: I am using wicd now [01:05] BP{k}: its cool Its back [01:05] roccity_, it does dhcp if you tell it to. [01:06] hmm... what's the first thing I want to do if I want to install pam on slack? [01:06] deadowl: "down, not across" [01:06] slak (n=slak@189.82.46.254) joined ##slackware. [01:07] nullboy: ping ^^^^ more your area of expertise [01:07] (pam that is) [01:07] what's so bad about pam? [01:08] I mean, it lets me create home directories if a person doesn't have one on that computer [01:09] hiptobecubic: ahhh true didn't think of that thanks [01:09] roccity_, what were you using it for? [01:10] hiptobecubic: I thought I needed dhcp for my wireless as I move around with my laptop [01:11] roccity_, yes you probably will want it. [01:11] that's what wicd is for [01:11] hiptobecubic: gave my eth nic a static and the net is still going so I may try that thanks [01:11] I'm waiting for somebody to give the postal service analogy speech. [01:12] hiptobecubic: yeah thats why I enabled it but it always ran at startup [01:12] so it would take an extra 10-15 sec longer to boot [01:12] Nick change: slak -> slak-recompiland [01:13] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-96-184.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left ##slackware. [01:14] wicd isn't for dhcp, it's a front-end for ifconfig/dhcpcd/wpa_supplicant etc all those non-graphical programs [01:14] how do i leave a channel? [01:14] /part [01:14] ty [01:14] /leave #channel [01:15] so does anyone want to explain how to create a home directory under ldap authentication without pam? [01:15] impossible [01:16] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-178-106.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] so in other words it's either get a really nice server we can nfs or sshfs or something (and we've been soliciting sponsorships), install pam (which nobody here really likes the idea of), or kill slackware [01:17] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [01:17] pam comes along with most of distros [01:17] yep [01:17] no need to install nothing [01:18] We have a member very partial to slackware! [01:18] agentc0re: no luck... i'm putting slack back on tomorrow [01:18] pam is just the enviroment responsable to authentication-- that thing after boot procedure [01:19] deadowl: the history is basically that pam was riddled with security holes and Pat didn't like it all. How the situation is at present I do not know. [01:19] what else baffles me is perl and multi-line comments [01:20] in what sense? [01:20] Ficthe (n=river@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:20] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-96-184.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:21] perl doesn't have multi-line comments [01:21] hiptobecubic: BP{k} setting a static ip worked [01:21] thanks [01:21] oh hey Ficthe : thanks for the link you posted last week re: fonts. [01:21] Nick change: slak-recompiland -> slak- [01:21] Nick change: slak- -> slak [01:22] Nick change: slak -> kals [01:22] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-178-106.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:24] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:24] majikman (n=adam@ip65-44-150-234.z150-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:25] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-96-184.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left ##slackware. [01:25] majikman (n=adam@ip65-44-150-234.z150-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] deadowl: http://snuzzo.cypherpunk-hacktivism.net/2008/11/announcing-pam-for-slackware.html might help perhaps somehow [01:28] what is pam? [01:28] chilkewar (n=chilkewa@203.115.66.162) left irc: Connection timed out [01:30] oh some kind of security thing hmm [01:30] i've been using slackware so long i didnt even know it existed :-p [01:33] well, if you want to authenticate off of ldap, but you're not rich enough to have a data server so you need to spawn home directories for everyone on the local computer, then you're out of luck for the most part with slackware. [01:33] antler, what OS do you have on it? [01:36] TwinReverb: i'm running slamd64 atm [01:36] lol [01:37] kals (n=slak@189.82.46.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:37] antler, why are you going back to slackware? [01:38] i used slamd64 once and went back to slackware pretty quickly, i think the reason was i couldnt get something to compile correctly in it or something [01:38] deadowl: huh? what are you talking about? [01:38] Ficthe (n=river@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:38] how do i figure out hard drive size again? [01:38] df -h [01:38] Ficthe (n=river@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:38] tape measure [01:38] lmao [01:38] holy shit, what's a 200mHz computer doing with a 20GB hard drive? [01:39] eh its possible lol [01:39] TwinReverb: as silly as it may sound, i need vlc's subtitle enconding capabilities. and since i can't properly compile it in slamd64, slack it is. [01:39] why do you even need that? [01:39] lol [01:39] who knows [01:40] Okay, so I have a computer with 28MB RAM, a 200 MHz processor, and ample hard drive space... what should I install on it? [01:40] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [01:40] TwinReverb: to correctly display subtitles in particular languages :P [01:41] i.e. lightweight workstation use [01:41] TwinReverb: i normally use smplayer in slack, but sometimes i do need vlc. [01:41] Ficthe (n=river@unaffiliated/ficthe) left ##slackware. [01:42] deadowl, um slackware [01:42] lightweight workstation with 28mb ram is going to probably require running everything in shell [01:42] have fun with that [01:43] well, it runs flux alright [01:43] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [01:44] DSL maybe? [01:44] deadowl, what does `free -m | head -n2 && free -m | tail -n1` say? [01:44] total used free shared buffers cached [01:44] Mem: 2017 1853 163 0 0 1059 [01:44] Swap: 2047 3 2044 [01:44] you should run deli linux on it [01:44] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:44] or at least use the apps from deli [01:45] theres like a really light weight web browser and stuff [01:45] deli is made to run a gui on 386 and 486 machines lol [01:45] i've been wanting to try it out just never got around to it [01:46] http://www.delilinux.org/ [01:46] i would doubt that by the time you got Xorg and fluxbox up and running that you'd have any left over RAM at all, which means at that point you're running directly from the swap partition just about, meaning your speed is going to absolutely suck even more than before [01:46] much less then you have to actually run workstation applications like email, web browser, and word processor [01:46] yea deli does use an older version of xorg [01:47] i think it uses old xfree actually [01:47] if you're going to trim down something that much you're still going to be stuck compiling stuff, more than likely, to make it do what you want [01:47] and you're also going to need to tweak the living krap out of it [01:47] and that's just to get it to run decent as possible. it's still going to be slow as @#$ [01:48] at my house, a machine that slow becomes the firewall router box [01:48] wait, do you mean ram usage? [01:48] uh, yeah... [01:48] 46% [01:48] i doubt that [01:48] total used free shared buffers cached [01:48] Mem: 2017 1854 162 0 0 1059 [01:48] -/+ buffers/cache: 795 1222 [01:49] you can add up the size of all the executables and come up with more than 28MB [01:49] much less obviously the kernel loads disk cache and other things into RAM [01:50] that's what it says!! [01:50] but yea, I need to reinstall it from scratch I guess, because mek effed it [01:52] bono (i=bono@118-160-170-167.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:52] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [01:52] the generic smp kernel is 2.1mb but let's say for the sake of argument you compiled it down to 1mb [01:53] oh crap, i'm getting drunk-hacked [01:54] then 1mb in modules [01:54] lol, the iso for dsl is less than 50MB [01:55] then 1mb for the shell [01:55] 1.6mb for Xorg (just the executable) [01:55] another 1mb for the modules at minimum [01:55] yeah right [01:56] i'm trying to guess low just to prove a point here [01:56] 24M /lib/modules/2.6.29.1-RAS/ [01:56] lol [01:56] nullboy, no, memory footprint [01:56] oh ok [01:56] but still yeah i'm guessing low [01:56] i'm assuming he tweaked the @#$ out of slackware 12.2 [01:56] fluxbox 1.5mb for its memory footprint [01:57] at least 8mb for shadow RAM for your video card (that's pushing it) [01:57] The entire distro is under 50 MB [01:57] files [01:57] as in how much is on the CD [01:57] you're at 15.1 mb already [01:58] and i was guestimating low [01:58] based on MY numbers from top ... [01:58] (oh i forgot, you also need to load the fonts to RAM) [01:59] 390mb is what Xorg is using in memory (but i'll be willing to guestimate that if you tweaked the @#4 out of it, maybe 100mb in ram) [01:59] that's easily more than your 28mb [01:59] i would highly recommend you try not to use any graphical system on a machine with only 28mb ram [01:59] it works fine [01:59] you just can't use anything like firefox [01:59] until your hard drive dies due to constant swap thrash [02:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [02:00] yeah that would be like 200mb ram use if you tweaked the hell out of it [02:00] but still, my point remains entirely valid [02:01] deadowl (n=deadowl@132.198.13.188) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:01] you could run kword or abiword instead of openoffice-org but you'd still be over your RAM by the time you even loaded fluxbox [02:01] bono (i=bono@114-45-224-13.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:02] granted, i once ran M$ Word 6.0 on win 3.1 on a 16mhz 386 with 5mb ram ... [02:02] i find it funny that Word 6 did everything anyone would almost ever need for word processing yet executable sizes are so much bigger now [02:02] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] hell i remember old-school white-letters-on-blue-background wordperfect [02:04] lol [02:04] that did everything people needed in a word processor, just funny how now everything "must" be graphical [02:04] those were the days [02:04] you know i dont mind graphical stuff so much [02:04] but why does everything gotta be so big [02:04] oh well, i'm just rambling now [02:05] cuz it is obviously possible to make a fully functional graphical word processor that doesnt need 1 gb of ram to run [02:06] modern programs need an enema [02:06] they need liposuction lol [02:06] deadowl (n=deadowl@132.198.13.188) joined ##slackware. [02:07] umm yea, so using the same monitor for two computers = using the wrong keyboard to try to exit X [02:07] so i was wondering yesterday, could one "hack" the slackware install dvd so that it included patches? i.e. make say firefox-1.0.0-blah blah blah a link on the CD to firefox-1.0.5 blah blah blah ? [02:07] hahaha :P [02:08] nite everyone [02:08] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:09] i like programs that are just enough to get the job done, but seriously [02:09] yea, so DSL runs at 61% of 28MB off of the CD [02:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [02:10] what's running? [02:11] a window manager, a web browser, a console, few other things [02:11] be specific [02:12] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:12] (please) [02:13] well, I'm installing it, so I'll get back to you [02:13] but yea, it doesn't take long to burn an ISO for yourself to see [02:14] memory used during install does not matter [02:14] no, that was Live CD [02:14] TwinReverb: about the patches added to the install, yes [02:15] it's do able [02:15] nullboy, so the installer would point to the symlink which would point to the updated package, that would work? cool [02:16] that'snot how i was thinking about it. you could integrate the patches and regenerate the full checksum file [02:16] bleh it's not worth it then [02:17] i'm not totally expert on the installer though [02:17] (however, i know that the installer, if told "install everything", will just basically installpkg */*.tgz) [02:17] yeah [02:17] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [02:17] but that */* applies to slackware/*/* [02:17] not the upper level [02:18] so you'd have to integrate the patches into slackware/*/* and regent the checksum file [02:18] web browser: dillo [02:18] i don't know the underlying mechanics to the installer though so i might be easier [02:19] nullboy, yeah that's basically what i meant [02:19] how do I figure out which one in /dev/ is the hard drive? [02:19] deadowl: fdisk -l [02:19] (that's a lowercase "L" [02:19] ) [02:20] yea, i have fonts that don't get me killed. [02:21] ? [02:22] he has fonts that show L an l properly [02:23] LlIi [02:23] ;) [02:23] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-14-39.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] It can be 1 too [02:24] l1| [02:24] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:24] hi [02:24] the default XChat font does just fine [02:25] dscpl0, hi [02:25] moving downstairs brb [02:25] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [02:25] planning on getting a new mp3 player. anybody got any experience with creative zen? [02:26] dscpl0, nope [02:26] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:27] dscpl0, http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl [02:28] keoni (i=1000@208.106.15.140) joined ##slackware. [02:28] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:29] i have an HCT Emotional HMP-1000A (iirc) which plays MP3 and OGG, and a GPX MW3836 WMA/MP3 player [02:33] the GPX is cool because it has an SD/MMC card reader so it shows up as two devices when you plug it in (i.e. internal memory, then whatever you have plugged into it) [02:35] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:36] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [02:38] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:39] Neo_The_User (n=neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] Neo_The_User (n=neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("The mesa is trying to eat me!"). [02:42] neron (n=n@217.118.82.1) joined ##slackware. [02:42] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [02:42] i can't believe I'm up at 3AM installing DSL on a machine! [02:42] ON A FRIDAY NIGHT [02:45] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [02:47] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:48] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:59] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:03] deadowl: at least have a beer while doing it [03:04] beer makes all IT situations better [03:04] I have literally $3.00 in my bank account. [03:04] MIGHT be enough for a 40oz. [03:04] but then again it's too late to buy alcohol. [03:05] okay, so when I finally figure out how I'm supposed to write these partition tables and what boot loader I should install, should I name this computer unafraid or notafraid? [03:05] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [03:05] one time i was installing CAT5E into a brand new building for the company we worked for. they sent us ahead of the rest of the moving crew to setup the basic network infrastructure before all of the desks were moved into. the CEO showed up with a cooler full of Corona. [03:06] :) [03:06] everything was great after that [03:07] deadowl: can you explain your current situation in detail for us? we might be able to help you [03:07] what about partitions? [03:09] well yea, I installed it to a partition with grub and it isn't booting for some reason [03:10] you installed grub from the extra/ directory during install? [03:10] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-178-106.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] this is DSL [03:10] oh [03:10] What's up,folks? [03:10] i don't know anything about damn small linux [03:10] it's really damn small [03:11] messed with a few times with an old 166 mhz P2 with 128m [03:11] so now I'm going to try with lilo [03:11] my processor's better but far less ram [03:12] 64meg? [03:12] 28 [03:12] lol [03:12] everyone loves a challenge..:D [03:12] deadowl: usually there would be massive flames and brimstone for anyone seeking assistance with non Slackware distributions in here but it's a really odd hour right now and no one cares [03:12] i got netbsd installed on a hypersparc architecture by using bootp/nfs [03:13] ^ and since you said that, it's all good [03:13] nullboy: i'm not asking for help, I'm asking for preference in computer name between unafraid and notafraid :P. [03:13] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-14-39.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:13] dude, notafraid for sure [03:14] aintskeered [03:14] lol [03:14] oh god, this kid named a computer worksbutverynoisy [03:15] imonfire [03:15] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-71-68.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:15] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-71-68.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:15] i have two sgi indys, I named the first one Bell, but the second one kernel panics when I try the Debian installer. [03:15] and it would be named Whistle [03:16] oh man [03:16] might try gentoo [03:16] I got two sun ultra 1s up with debian [03:16] first adventure into netbooting [03:16] i stick to moons and other planetary satellites [03:16] they're tortoise and hare [03:16] Then there's also an alphastation 300 [03:16] and subatomic particles [03:17] I first started naming servers on a star wars theme, then i switched to Stars. [03:17] i have neutrino, phobos, galileo, moon, deimos and apophis [03:17] mathgirl was upset that we didn't name anything after mathemeticians, so we named three lagrange, taylor, and descartes [03:18] we also have cerberus, caspar, and balthasar that were already up and running. [03:18] i mean [03:18] cerberus, yea, but that's not in the stack... balthasar, melchior and caspar [03:18] there we go. [03:18] see now that is cool [03:19] then the last bunch I named [03:19] earthquake, birdsandsnakes, aeroplane, and lennybruce [03:19] but I wasn't sure whether to call this one unafraid or notafraid [03:20] I name it after beverages [03:20] what kind? [03:20] Lemonade, joltcola, etc [03:20] have you used water yet? [03:20] hmmm [03:21] That's a good one [03:21] or bawls? [03:21] or ghettojuice [03:22] man, DSL is so much faster to pretend to install from the command line than it is from the LiveCD [03:23] is your 5x cdrom's hamster dying? [03:23] you need to feed them, you know [03:23] a world without moving parts, that would be nice! [03:23] i found that installing over gigabit ethernet is much faster than using a dvd [03:24] the bottleneck ends up being the disks and that is hilarious in itself [03:24] it would also be cool if printers were ultrasmall and a laptop came attached to it. [03:24] tuly hilarious indeed,nullboy [03:25] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:25] yea, all I'd need to do is put the boot installer on the server and then add the filename dhcpd.conf option [03:26] but that machine is 300mhz and quadruples as an ldap server, dns server, dhcp server, and cups server [03:26] just keep an rsync copy of the Slackware tree you want and export it using Apache. Select http as you install source and it will be the fastest full install you've ever done [03:26] deadowl: do you use PAM with ldap? [03:27] neron (n=n@217.118.82.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:27] well, not yet on the slackware computers [03:27] deadowl: did you integrate PAM yourself or are you using some prefab stuff? [03:27] oh [03:27] on the debian-based machines, yea [03:27] there is a good starting place for Slackware PAM integration [03:28] you can check these out for integration examples http://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/people/grzech/pam/slack12.2/ [03:28] and I have moved most of that over to a pam.d style layout now [03:29] pam.d is much better for portability and packaging reasons [03:30] oops; http://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/people/grzech/pam/src/ [03:30] yea, the only downside to not having pam right now is actually not being able to create a home directory... but I can definitely see problems expanding in the future [03:31] how do you tell what version of slackware a machine is running? [03:31] deadowl: cat /etc/slackware-version [03:31] ah [03:32] oh cool, they're both 12.0... that simplifies things for me [03:32] synchronized upgrade paths yay [03:34] i think a cool statistic to know would be the uptime of the oldest version of Slackware running on a server that is in actual production operation. [03:34] (and hasn't been pwned yet) [03:35] hmm [03:35] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:35] create a worm to figure it out? [03:35] lmao [03:37] that would be interesting to hear on the news [03:38] worm created to discover oldest running slackware server kills google's xxxxxxxxx datacenter [03:38] haha [03:40] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-152-245.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] I wonder if a successful ddos against a google data center would cause a freak heatwave.... [03:42] it would be even better if google streets took a shot of a google data center on fire [03:42] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:42] did google streetview ever do the denali highway? [03:43] dunno [03:43] is there away of contributing to that thing [03:43] its cool [03:43] they got run out of some UK town by angry townspeople [03:43] acidchild: you can take your own images and submit them with GPS points [03:45] it's really nice when you're looking for a place to rent or buy [03:45] you can sometimes get a feel for parking issues and layout [03:46] it appears they haven't done the denali highway... but they really should [03:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:48] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:50] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [03:50] Anybody get tv-out (s-video) with an ati radeon working? [03:51] i wish s-video cords weren't so expensive [03:51] I mean [03:52] you'd think they'd ever go down in price, but not really. [03:53] well...nowadays, tvs have hdmi [03:54] I'm trying to hook up this old, old tv I have [03:55] OT but good to bookmark: http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/dulaney_awk.html [03:59] faffi (n=pwn@unaffiliated/faffi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:59] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:01] lol, ubuntu server's installer gives you a warning if you have less than 32MB ram [04:01] why is that lol [04:01] why would anyone use less than 32mb :) [04:04] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [04:04] nullboy: thanks for the link [04:04] I should play with awk some [04:04] looks like i could simplify a lot of lame things with awk [04:05] So, is the advantage over grep.. [04:05] the automatically assigning of variables? 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[05:19] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:20] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:26] stybla, are you Australian ? [05:28] styblaian [05:28] Camarade_Tux: is noon in Australia right now? [05:29] nullboy, hmmm, interesting :p [05:29] Camarade_Tux: i'd say it's 0-2am there :) [05:29] Sat Apr 4 02:30:01 PDT 2009 [05:29] stybla, I don't know, it's nearly 12am in France ;) [05:29] yay, i installed DSL finally [05:30] FINALLY [05:30] Camarade_Tux: isn't 'noon' time when you eat lunch? [05:30] Camarade_Tux: ;) [05:30] Camarade_Tux: come over here and visit me! [05:30] stybla, he, I guess my english FAILed ;p [05:30] :D [05:31] Camarade_Tux: i'm in the "heart" of Europe ;) [05:32] I'm afraid your IP is too distant from mine, I won't be able to come quickly enough >< [05:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:32] i'm on the US West coast [05:34] Camarade_Tux: only ~900km +/- [05:34] it depends where you are at. [05:34] Paris currently [05:35] 900km then [05:35] http://zunder1990.xtreemhost.com/cleanme.htm [05:36] nullboy: my eyes got itchy just from the look. [05:36] lol [05:36] Action: stybla looks for anti-alergy pills [05:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:37] I guess the first one is actually a headless server ;p [05:38] I'm guessing the dude who drank all the coca-cola to be about 400lbs. [05:39] chopp: link? :) [05:39] i've overlooked that one. [05:39] if you look at the chair, it seems he is [05:39] stybla, http://zunder1990.xtreemhost.com/small/tn_workstation.jpg [05:40] so gnarly [05:40] hahahaha :D [05:40] notice: not a single water bottle in that image [05:40] wtf. [05:41] coke has water inside. [05:41] err [05:41] contains [05:41] anyone know how to make bash's {1..15} output 01 02 ... 15 instead of 1 2 ... 15 ? [05:42] grazymax (n=grazymax@host158-48-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:42] 0{1..9} 1{0..5} [05:43] tank-man, nice and simple, thanks :) [05:44] :) [05:45] bash is weird [05:45] nvision_ (n=nvision@g229119036.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [05:46] http://englishrussia.com/images/home_networks/9.jpg ;) [05:46] and now, how to have a01b a02b ... a15b ? [05:47] stybla, looks toshop'd [05:48] ok, got it [05:48] Action: Camarade_Tux still thinks bash is weird [05:49] vinegaro1n (n=sam@119.224.26.179) joined ##slackware. [05:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:58] I've got a usb-rs232-converter. That shows up in Linux as /dev/ttyUSB0 correctly. But, I'm running a program in Wine, and that one only offers ports COM1..COM4 (none of which it is). Any ideas on how I could make the program talk across the usb cable? Any ideas on how I could maybe redirect com4 to it? Or get it recognized as com4? (now it seems to be com5) [05:58] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:00] vinegaroon (n=sam@119.224.26.179) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:02] first things first : does it work directly with linux ? [06:04] No. Well, not without considerable trouble. The device I want to connect is a programmable digital signal processor rack unit ;). And the development environment is available only for windows. That runs well under wine though, the connection is my only problem (this far) [06:05] And, of course my computer doesn't have a real com port. Or maybe it has, on the motherboard somewhere. So the other option is go through some boxes to see if I can find a com port backplate ;) [06:05] iirc you need a kernel module for these converters to work and I'm not sure it's in the stock slackware kernel [06:06] well, plugging the converter did seem to automatically create /dev/ttyUSB0. I'm quite confident that works out of the box. The problem is that the IDE does not show other options than COM1..COM4, and the usb converter doesn't map to one of these (my guess is it's COM5 or something) [06:07] On windows, in another place, it shows up as COM6 [06:07] if it created that, it probably works [06:08] but unfortunately I don't have wine anymore =/ [06:09] kama (n=kama@host48-34-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:09] :/. That's a good point, maybe it's about wine configuration [06:11] *in case you can't get it to work*, virtualbox should be alright [06:12] oh, that seems nice, thanks! :) [06:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:14] you'd need the non-free edition though [06:15] kama (n=kama@host48-34-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:18] Aldaron: how about to create link /dev/ttyS0->ttyUSB0 ? [06:19] stybla: That sounds like exactly the kind of a tip I was looking for :D [06:20] what's needed to offload photos from a motorola cell phone? and please don't say windows [06:20] t0f: OS X :p [06:20] Aaand.. It works! Thank you so much, stybla! [06:20] Aldaron: ;) [06:20] heh [06:21] t0f: what? i didn't say windows :) [06:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:21] no really, do i need the frimware file and some sort of software? [06:21] firmware* [06:21] t0f, which motorola phone ? [06:22] i don't have it here, i'll get the model # later [06:22] t0f: try this http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/moto4lin/ [06:22] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [06:22] thanks chopp [06:23] you're welcome [06:23] http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2733/212/13/724689032/n724689032_1699719_4287228.jpg [06:23] weird [06:24] he, we could get all the other images :p [06:24] and s/weird/scary/ [06:29] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:31] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-206-190-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [06:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:35] looks as though i am never going to get my p4 w/i915 gpu, so i may as well upgrade 12.1 -> 12.2 on this p3 [06:35] looks as though i am never going to get my p4 w/i915 gpu working, so i may as well upgrade 12.1 -> 12.2 on this p3 [06:36] i have to look into a pci express for the p4 i suppose [06:37] t0f: take note that the slackbuild I directed to you is for 12.2. [06:37] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-206-190-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:37] i know chopp, i am getting the one from 12.1 [06:38] allright, just making sure. [06:43] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:45] if i had to choose between a Dell p4 w/an i915 gpu or an abacus...i'd choose the later [06:45] the abacus get better graphics (: [06:45] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:46] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:47] my last dell p4 had an ati radeon 7500 [06:48] current machine is an emachine celeron with a radeon x200 [06:48] Nick change: spmd -> soh_segunda [06:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.78) joined ##slackware. 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[07:03] usually [07:04] it's a kinda nice system. sata and 4 ram slots and an agp slat. it has to be better than the p4 with builtin i195 with no agp sot [07:04] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:05] nvision_ (n=nvision@g229119036.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:05] sorry for my spelling, i just got up and need coffee [07:05] St4vr0gin (n=stavrogi@unaffiliated/jonsnow/x-492017) joined ##slackware. [07:05] my x200 is integrated onto the mainboard on mine, but also has a pci-e slot [07:06] i think my crumby older p4 has a pci-e also [07:06] St4vr0gin (n=stavrogi@unaffiliated/jonsnow/x-492017) left irc: "Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!" [07:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:07] i wouldn't recommend a Dell system to the devil [07:08] dell was formerly fair, like a decade ago. [07:09] hoe is a sata hd powered? the same plug for the cds/patas? [07:09] how* [07:09] t0f, on most of them now, it's a newer connector [07:09] but adapters are available to turn a 4-pin molex into a sata power connector [07:10] all my sata disks still use molex [07:10] i have never seen a stat disk as of yet, hense the questions [07:10] all of mine are missing the molex [07:10] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:11] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:12] I have a 1TB disk, let me check [07:12] i just chked the power supply, the only odd power connector on the newer p4 is the small floppy power plug [07:13] t0f, if you want to use sata disks, you'll either need to hope your disk has the molex connector, or pick up an adapter [07:13] the adapters are cheap [07:13] i could use 2 1TB disks [07:13] I'd need some tool to reopen my external disk =/ [07:13] the spare for backups [07:14] no tape? [07:14] no [07:14] Camarade_Tux, i'm looking at a 300gb seagate 7200.8 ... no molex. [07:14] i have a really old tape drive (circa 1992 [07:15] it would take 20 tapes just for '/' [07:15] do you have a serial mouse or a keyboard with a phone line coming out of it? [07:16] no [07:16] wow [07:16] okay [07:16] but [07:16] deadowl, i have both of those [07:16] ps/2 [07:16] yea? [07:16] i'll double chk [07:16] what I need is a keyboard for an SGI Indigo Iris. [07:16] i'm not sure where they are [07:17] with pinnings exactly like a PS/2 keyboard, but not a PS/2 keyboard. [07:17] I *hate* my family : they managed to lose my tools ! [07:17] i see 6 usbs and one 9 pin serial and a lp on the back [07:17] but the disk doc says molex [07:18] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:18] i'm going to get some sleep [07:18] ttyl [07:18] maybe i'll wake up when someone's in the damnsmalllinux room [07:18] molex is the 4 pin connector with 2 black and a red and yellow wire, right? 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[07:23] Zordrak, ntfs (via ntfs3g), fat32, or ext3 [07:23] ext3 under Win? [07:23] yep [07:23] google it [07:23] yeah, i know it's *possible* [07:23] it's an installable file system driver [07:23] but would you *trust* it>? [07:23] they added a new option the an ntfs mount. 'r' 'rw' and 'd' [07:23] i've used it for quite some time without issue [07:24] 'd' == destroy!@ [07:24] hmm [07:24] only issue i've ever ran into is under windows the files are created as 'root' [07:24] hmm.. that would be a right PITA [07:25] man i'm sorry that i can't type well enough to be understood [07:25] but since it's a mass storage disk, it should be set mode 1777 [07:25] Action: t0f is off to the kitchen for coffee [07:26] so that way username doesn't matter [07:26] giuppy (n=giuppy@host109-169-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:26] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [07:27] I think I'm gonna go to my thinking place to think about it [07:27] drwxrwxrwt 12 root root 4096 2009-04-02 12:29 hdb1 [07:27] for example [07:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:28] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-181-28-4.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:28] my user has full access to that disc, not just root due to the mode [07:28] anyone here with a HP mini-note 2133 , with slackware installed ? [07:29] here is the spec for the newer p4: BFLC_English.pdf [07:29] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:30] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [07:31] i'm downloding it now [07:32] Tidus: I do have another option [07:32] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[07:32] hi [07:32] two disks in the box will mirror each other, the other will mirror a disk in another box [07:32] the backups will be performed by a non-deleting rsync [07:32] i rsync all partitions monthy [07:33] so, what I could do, is have one NTFS, one ext3.. only access NTFS from WinXP, only (primarily) access ext3 from slack and then do a non-delete rsync one way, and then a second pass in the other dirextion each night [07:34] one of my niggest concerns is that NTFS is probably the better one for disaster recovery.. but ext3 is better for slack's day to day.. so why not have the best of both worlds and then i have a live backup on a different FS [07:35] that could work [07:35] just wondering if there's any complications I hadnt considered in the two-pass non-delete rsync [07:35] what happens if you've changed both copies of the file [07:35] usernames under linux [07:36] i would have to make it checksum difference [07:36] but the change both sides is a potential issue [07:36] :/ [07:36] <_RadioHead> i just created raid1 but with one missing drive , now when i add missing drive mirror will sync from MISSING Drive [07:36] <_RadioHead> ? [07:36] could work better if one ntfs one xfs [07:36] er [07:36] one ext3 one xfs [07:36] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:36] that way usernames stay in sync [07:36] access ext3 in xp, xfs in slack [07:36] is an SMBus pci slot made for a pci-e graphics card? [07:36] it shouldnt REALLY be a problem about changing both files because the files shouldnt change, they should just get created or destroyed [07:36] howevere [07:37] that produces a new problem [07:37] if i reorganise the store [07:37] im not gonna get nthe deletes i want [07:37] hence why I was considering going back to ext3&ext3 and one-way rsync [07:38] i have gotten the impression that x/j/reiser/ext[34] are all pretty poor with regard to disaster recovery [07:38] Zordrak, how did u do that live backup ? [07:38] Zordrak, ext3 is simply ext2 with a journal added on [07:38] i know [07:38] which is good for small errors [07:39] but whole partition recovery on a shagged fs.. with a shagged MFT? [07:39] DeeeeP: huh? [07:39] two disks in the box will mirror each other, the other will mirror a disk in another box [07:39] Zordrak, i don't know too much about recovery so you just went way over my head [07:40] DeeeeP: it's semi-live (daily rsync) not active [07:40] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [07:40] i normally just make backups to optical media [07:40] Zordrak, i made some scripts to work as real-time mirror with rsync [07:40] talking about 2TB [07:40] i can show it to you , they are pretty simple [07:40] keep a saved search monitoring changes since the last disc, burn the search results when it hits 4.3gb [07:40] DeeeeP: kk, ta [07:41] wait then [07:41] Tidus: $$$ [07:41] plus i hate the fact that whe [07:41] whenjever i go back to a DVD cos i NEED it, i find it's covered in CRC errors [07:41] my storage box hasn't shagged an fs in years [07:41] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:41] not been near windows then? :p [07:42] last copy of windows it's had on it was 98 [07:42] plus this isnt just a storage box it's a live a/v/gaming box too [07:42] Zordrak, http://pastebin.com/m453f3c2c [07:42] any access to it is network, and its file systems are ext3. it normally shags the hard disk before it takes out the filesystem on it [07:42] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:43] *nod* [07:43] i would like to run that kind of NAS.. but i dont have the machines/cases to do it with [07:43] not that have SATA-II and enough space for mjultiple disks anyway [07:44] this is just a simple p3-450 with 3 300gb sata discs attached to an addon controller [07:44] anyone here works with A0 plotters ? [07:44] yeah [07:44] the discs are in raid5 so it can tolerate the loss of 1 [07:44] theyre a bastard! [07:44] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Tidus: when running raid I want a minimum of raid6.. and no one box has enough space to accommodate enough disks [07:45] it runs a minimal slackware 12.1 [07:45] hence the semi-live backup [07:46] Zordrak, it's never lost more than one disc at once [07:46] if it loses two, hence the dvd backups [07:46] my cpu says on it: 2.53GHz / 512 / 533. so i take it that the 512 is the L2 cache and the 533 is the FSB freq, correct? [07:46] I am strill recovering from a loss of 3x400GB disks in one 48 hour period! that bwas a BAD week for me! [07:46] t0f, yes [07:46] ok [07:46] Zordrak, that's an ouch [07:47] im just lucky that each was backed up by another disk [07:47] i had 6x400GB [07:47] so it 'should' work, so i have a problem somewhere else [07:47] and three went.. and luickily no two had the nsame data [07:47] i'll try a 2nd power supply [07:47] just one wasnt quite properly backed up so i still had some loss [07:49] also i prefer daily disk backups because then you have up to 24hours to recover something you deleted by accident [07:49] which raid cant give you [07:49] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.91.34) joined ##slackware. [07:49] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:49] Zordrak, if you have the money, i'd invest in a drobo. it's (in a nutshell) an external hdd enclosure that can hold 4 sata discs and has its own built-in intelligent disc to disc integrity checks [07:50] google it... it's pretty neat [07:50] if i had money.............................................. [07:50] Action: Zordrak is skint [07:50] i have what i have and have to make of it what i can [07:51] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [07:51] same here [07:51] Shuren (n=Devilman@host101-62-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [07:52] Tidus: that's nice ;) [07:52] just realised fat32 is no option [07:52] filesize support is too small [07:53] and the best part is, its intelligent integrity checks and such are OS-independent [07:53] around 500 EUR at amazon... not acceptable for a personal budget [07:53] i use my computer to make money, editing home movies for individuals and such [07:54] seems there are some serious warnings about letting Windows write to ext3 :/ [07:54] i can't afford to lose projects due to hdd going 'oops, i ate your data' [07:54] which puts me back where i started at ntfs-3g [07:54] very nice , Tidus [07:54] that drobo [07:54] goddamnnit microsoft stop being such painful bastards! [07:55] i plan on getting one soon. [07:55] Tidus: well that's something different, if you make money with it [07:55] just realized in the newest version of devede, I dont see an option to create a DVD "WITHOUT" a menu. Am I just not seeing it? [07:55] Tidus, u edit home videos with linux ? [07:55] DeeeeP, i bounce between linux and my mac [07:55] Tidus, what software u recommend on linux for video edit ? [07:55] kino [07:56] let me check [07:56] it's actually rather nice [07:56] yes it is [07:56] protestato (n=yo@213.37.132.245.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [07:56] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [07:56] hi [07:56] cinellera not too bad either [07:57] Tidus, GTK ? [07:57] yes, gtk [07:58] http://www.kinodv.org/article/static/3 <-- its requirements [08:02] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host25-24-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:03] <_RadioHead> i need a help , i run mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-disks=2 missing /dev/sdd1 [08:04] <_RadioHead> now if i add /dev/sdb1 on missing disk my data on sdb1 will gone? [08:04] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. 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[08:41] NTFS is the decision [08:42] lizardisu [08:42] lizardius* [08:42] on [08:42] opensuse [08:42] it was autoconnected [08:42] on fedora [08:42] Zordrak: the 3 disks that went bad, did you buy them at the same time? [08:42] i just clicked icon a then connect [08:42] on ubuntu also.. [08:43] well "clicking an icon" is not an ethernet technologie :P [08:43] either install wicd, or edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf & /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf & /etc/resolv.conf & /etc/hosts [08:43] <_RadioHead> hi lizardius :) [08:43] hi _RadioHead ;) [08:44] nooper: They were three different models in three different machines on the different ring circuits! [08:44] nooper: hence why i nearly shat a continent [08:44] everythings alright, _RadioHead ? [08:44] wow [08:44] Action: lizardius gives up compiling mono 2.4 after 10 hours ... [08:46] well, actually just configuring. the damn script stops every 100th line with an syntax error -.- [08:46] huh i think that i will never connect on internet over slackware:( [08:48] toxic: so did you have a look at Pig_Pen's recommendation? [08:49] yes but i don't know how to do id because i am beginner [08:49] e.g. `man rc.inet1.conf` [08:50] did you have a look in the slackbook? or even googled for a wireless card setup tutorial on slackware? [08:51] well, i'm out for today. [08:51] toxic, before you start manually editing any files in /etc/* save an original (unedited) copy as a backup [08:51] bye _RadioHead ;) bye everybody [08:51] lizardius (n=florian@p4FDA4660.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "busy busy busy busy busy busy busy busy" [08:51] <_RadioHead> lizardius: see ya man [08:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:52] toxic: read http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network for help [08:52] ok i will reead [08:53] read* [08:53] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.42.162) joined ##slackware. [08:53] <_RadioHead> hi alienBOB , and thx for MPlayer pkg :) , i forgot your ~alienbob URL i only typed alienbob and google redirect me on URL [08:53] <_RadioHead> huh fnialy backup done [08:53] <_RadioHead> finaly* [08:55] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:55] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [08:55] this arcticle is very long [08:56] hello, i am using slackware 12.2. is X -configure the same as xorgconfig or xorgsetup ? [08:57] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:57] toxic (n=toxic@78-2-130-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:00] signal11 (i=esteban@host197.quaddro.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:00] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:01] signal11 (n=esteban@host197.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] thanks anyhow [09:01] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:01] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. 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[09:35] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:37] ayone using current? [09:38] jeffrey_ (n=jeffrey@59.40.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:39] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [09:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:40] <_RadioHead> LnxSlck: me [09:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:40] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:40] _RadioHead, do you have quanta installed? [09:41] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.91.93) joined ##slackware. [09:41] <_RadioHead> LnxSlck: i dont know , i know in kde3 quanta was always isntalled on kdeweb something like that [09:41] <_RadioHead> nope whereis quanta [09:41] <_RadioHead> quanta: [09:41] _RadioHead, there's also a package like that in current [09:41] but i can't find quanta [09:43] <_RadioHead> kdewebdev but i dont know if it is inside that pkg [09:43] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [09:43] i don't think so [09:43] weird [09:43] <_RadioHead> i think quanta was till 3.5.X [09:44] <_RadioHead> LnxSlck: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/releases.php [09:44] _RadioHead, so quanta is no more? [09:44] <_RadioHead> i dont know from what i saw in site no , but i never use quanta. [09:44] <_RadioHead> so best is to google for that [09:45] Quanta is not in the MANIFEST.bz2 file for -current. [09:45] but is quanta supposed to exist in kde4? [09:45] that is my question [09:46] protestato (n=yo@213.37.132.245.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:46] <_RadioHead> i have a disk with data (sdb1) , i want to create raid1 to fail a disk so after i can sync from sdb1 to sdd1 [09:46] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [09:47] <_RadioHead> but do no if mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-disks=2 /dev/sdb1 missing is Ok or [09:47] Some say that Quanta does not use QT4 yet. [09:47] <_RadioHead> mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-disks=2 missing /dev/sdd1 [09:48] <_RadioHead> logicaly fisrt is ok but i can`t think now ;) [09:48] gm152, thanks [09:49] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-245-252.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:58] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:59] Argus1 (i=Argus1@92.82.91.52) joined ##slackware. [10:05] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:06] can someone tell me why curl is giving me this error curl: option -F: requires parameter http://rafb.net/p/v8hJyh66.html ? [10:09] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.83.47) joined ##slackware. [10:16] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.91.93) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:16] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:18] hi does anyone know why the last two releases of fglrx do not work with slackware 12.2É [10:18] afo_SoaD (n=afo_SoaD@rue92-6-82-237-182-56.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] should i be asking this in the ati #? [10:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] praedictus (i=1001@189-93-61-192.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:20] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:20] here's a real dumb one: is there a permissions problem in kdegraphics in -current? [10:21] vatgas (n=val@123.145.57.185) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:22] to be more specific kolourpaint segfaults as a normal user, but will execute as root. [10:22] ... my wife noticed [10:22] and what are the permissions on kolourpaint [10:23] ag3ntugl1 (n=x@doc-24-32-9-104.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) left ##slackware. [10:23] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Action: BP{k} lacks a -current machine to test at the moment. [10:24] <_RadioHead> BP{k}: you are familiar with mdadm? [10:24] r - x [10:24] _RadioHead: not really. I have heard of it, but never really used it. [10:25] <_RadioHead> BP{k}: i have my sdb1 with full data so i need to sync it on sdd1 but i need to be very carefully creating raid1 , as nachox told me yesterday i can simulaet a fail and then sync it ... anyway... [10:26] twanny796 (n=twanny@85.232.204.152) joined ##slackware. [10:26] remind which is the torrent downloader in linux? [10:27] <_RadioHead> twanny796: bittorrent,bittornado or ktorrent [10:27] are there official mirrors which host the dvd for 12.2 É [10:28] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:29] there are links for bittorrent downloads at slackware.com [10:29] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:29] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-245-252.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:30] blkdg: yes. [10:30] new nvidia drivers are way faster than the older ones [10:31] heh maybe should just wait till next week when the packages for 4.2.2 show up :) [10:31] BP{k}, is it released when the new version is releasedÉ [10:31] _RadioHead, ok [10:32] blkdg: yes. [10:32] 1 \ [10:33] sorry guys [10:33] i was cleaning my keyboard [10:33] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] afo_SoaD (n=afo_SoaD@rue92-6-82-237-182-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:34] hi everyone [10:34] someone alive? [10:34] define "alive"? [10:34] :D [10:34] awake [10:34] thanks BP{k} [10:34] :D [10:35] hi BP{k} [10:35] mth-, dont ask to ask [10:35] just ask ;) [10:35] mth-: oh.. no. :P I am still on my second coffee. [10:35] are bots alive? or awake? [10:35] ahaohoahoahao [10:35] do bots dream of eletric sheep? :P [10:35] bots are idle [10:35] :D [10:35] my first coffee here :) [10:35] bots dream about sexy cpus [10:36] hi mth- [10:36] praedictus (i=1001@189-93-61-192.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:36] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.83.47) left irc: "Quit" [10:38] is anyone here using slackware 12.2 and any of the 9.x family of fglrx drivers | catalyst ? [10:38] Shuren (n=Devilman@host101-62-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:39] nope [10:39] current and nvidia happy user [10:41] Action: sombriks would like to be a good C programmer [10:41] like help the older ones to cross the roard [10:41] and write the proper 3D support for ATI [10:42] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [10:42] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [10:42] isn't there open source drivers for ati now? [10:42] me_ (n=me_@78.146.184.90) joined ##slackware. [10:42] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-89e4bec670682214) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:43] ati 8.12 works perfect on my new card, but 9.x family will freeze slackware 12.2 in it s tracks [10:43] Argus1 (i=Argus1@92.82.91.52) left irc: [10:43] LnxSlck, like the radeon driver that comes with slackware 12.2 [10:43] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-507c564598694d99) joined ##slackware. [10:44] blkdg, maybe.. i don't use ati [10:45] someone please ping google.com and tell me their return time please [10:45] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:46] rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 32.080/32.226/32.372/0.146 ms [10:47] i hope that helps me_ [10:48] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-71-68.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:49] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-88-189.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:50] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.248) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:52] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:52] thanks again [10:52] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:52] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] zhoun (n=guo@58.31.35.219) joined ##slackware. [10:58] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.248) joined ##slackware. [10:58] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:00] <_RadioHead> no harm if i mount md0 while is resyncing? [11:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:01] You should be able to just mount and use it [11:01] With reduced performance [11:03] me_ (n=me_@78.146.184.90) left irc: "me_em" [11:03] <_RadioHead> alienBOB: thx , i just create raid1 sdb1 to sdd1 is syncing. already mounted thx agani [11:04] anyone here with a HP mini-note 2133 , with slackware installed ? [11:05] me_ (n=me_@78.146.184.90) joined ##slackware. [11:09] me_ (n=me_@78.146.184.90) left irc: Client Quit [11:12] arnt_ (n=arnt@host-212.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:13] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192311.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:13] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [11:14] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.155.139) joined ##slackware. [11:15] me_ (n=me_@78.146.184.90) joined ##slackware. [11:17] Lorenzu (n=gayan@112.135.202.155) joined ##slackware. [11:17] hi all slacker's [11:17] i need some help ... plz... [11:18] i am trying to get a ADSL modem on slack 12.1 [11:18] i am stuck in the middle ... [11:18] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.4.138) joined ##slackware. [11:18] ppls help ... [11:19] ppl ... [11:19] pls pls ... help me .... [11:19] what's up? [11:19] hi [11:19] i am trying to get my modem working with slack ... [11:19] is it a winmodem? [11:20] Is it an ethernet modem? USB ? [11:20] i dont think cuz it works fine with "Ubuntoz" [11:20] USB [11:20] humm [11:20] Lorenzu: try ppoe-setup [11:20] i got the unicorn II adsl driver compiled .. and the modem lights blink .. [11:21] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] yes ... i tried it ... its not working .. [11:21] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.60.35) joined ##slackware. [11:21] im am using the same modem with ubuntu to get my self online .. [11:21] which helpd me find the corect driver to compile .. [11:21] Well, I've never had an USB modem [11:21] ok .. [11:22] i only need some help in dialing as adsl connection /.. [11:22] i have a speedtouch 330 [11:22] on linux [11:22] c... great ... [11:23] does anyone know where libieee802111_crypt_tkip has been moved in 2.6.29 kernels? can't find it :| [11:23] ist a adsl modem right ... ? [11:23] yes [11:23] dialing an adsl connection, you need kppp or something [11:23] Deeep... What is the software you use to connect to the net [11:23] i am not using kde .. :( [11:24] Lorenzu, pppd call adsl-pppoe [11:24] i just call adsl-pppoe script [11:24] i got this pkg rp-pppoe ... do u have a is it a default ? [11:24] pkg ? [11:24] yeah , pppd is defautl [11:25] i needed to install linux-atm-i486-1 [11:25] tks ... ok ... ur on slackware ... [11:25] ! [11:25] witch compiles [11:25] plugin rp-pppoe.so [11:25] i have the package, i can send it to you [11:26] compiled for slackware [11:26] sure ... [11:26] that would be great ... [11:26] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] wait Lorenzu [11:27] sure ... [11:28] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Lorenzu, also have br2684ctl bin [11:29] ill send it [11:29] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] just copy it to /usr/local/bin/ [11:29] hi, if i am installing from a script as root, would using sh before the script alter how it handles the permissions of the dir where it is trying to install to ? [11:29] dont forget to chmod 755 it [11:29] hello world [11:30] tks deep i will try it out and get back to u ... u'll be on irc for the nxt 20 min na ? [11:30] me_ (n=me_@78.146.184.90) left irc: "Java user signed off" [11:30] Lorenzu, wait [11:30] sure u have it all ? all scripts ? [11:31] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-010-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:31] u sent 2 file 2 me ... [11:31] wait [11:31] let me check [11:32] sure .. [11:32] u know your VPI or VPN ? [11:32] some codes [11:32] 8 35 i guess [11:32] me_ (n=me_@78.146.184.90) joined ##slackware. [11:33] u neeed to run [11:33] br2684ctl -b -c 0 -a 0.35 [11:33] this is my codes , substitute for yours [11:33] then call [11:33] pppd call adsl-pppoe [11:33] ill just paste adsl-pppoe script , u need to put it under /etc/ppp/peers/ [11:33] me_ (n=me_@78.146.184.90) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:34] harjar (n=oddharja@cFD945BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: "leaving" [11:34] sure [11:34] here is the adsl-pppoe scipt [11:34] http://pastebin.com/m169c3492 [11:35] last thing [11:35] yeah .. [11:35] thanks again [11:35] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:35] on /etc/ppp/pap-secrets [11:35] goes the username and password [11:35] like this [11:35] "as5697015@sapo" "*" "xxxxxxx" [11:35] just like that , "*" included [11:35] ok ? [11:36] xxxx is your ISP pass [11:36] and that's all [11:36] i have chap-secrets [11:37] your isp uses chap or pap ? [11:37] yeah ... got it all [11:37] no i got them ... [11:37] yeah [11:37] Floops (n=baihu@ow.n.info.tm) left irc: "changing servers" [11:37] just use pap-secrets [11:37] sure ... [11:37] leave chap alone [11:37] let me know if it worked [11:37] Floops (n=baihu@coconut.island.chickenkiller.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Lorenzu, dont forget , before running br2684ctl [11:38] Floops (n=baihu@coconut.island.chickenkiller.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:38] u need to have the kernel module launched [11:38] for the modem [11:38] ok [11:38] u can put [11:38] br2684ctl -b -c 0 -a 0.35 [11:38] Floops (n=baihu@coconut.island.chickenkiller.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] and [11:38] pppd call adsl-pppoe [11:38] on a file , and run it [11:38] Floops (n=baihu@coconut.island.chickenkiller.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:38] do i have to make the peers folder in the ppp [11:39] yes [11:39] which modem are you guys talking about ? [11:39] Floops (n=baihu@coconut.island.chickenkiller.com) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Deeep is helping me out to configure an ZTE zxdsl [11:39] tks [11:39] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:39] helping you with my speedtouch 330 things :) [11:39] hope it work [11:39] :) [11:40] yeah ... [11:40] hope so ... fingers crossed /// [11:40] k , let me know if it worked [11:44] yeah ... [11:44] c ya'll soon \ [11:44] Lorenzu (n=gayan@112.135.202.155) left irc: "Leaving" [11:46] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:47] <_RadioHead> alienBOB: i done mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-disks=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdd1 , rsync is almost finished anhd i have mounted md0 accessing data , so no need for mkfs md0 ? [11:48] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.4.138) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:51] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:54] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:54] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:55] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.93.236.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] toxic (n=toxic@78-2-130-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [12:05] toxic (n=toxic@78-2-130-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:06] uouou (n=ubik@c-71-236-196-203.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] seemingly no manner of combination of googles will answer me how to format a thumb drive to ntfs [12:07] www.imagebin.org/44305 [12:07] if that's even the best solution for sharing a thumb drive between linux/windows [12:07] uouou, maybe samba [12:07] uouou, don't bother. [12:08] oh pen drive [12:08] At least not unless you know how to remove the journal. [12:08] yeah, whatever they're called [12:08] it's just for plain text [12:08] how can that be so incompatible? [12:09] ntfs works with linux ntfs-3g driver [12:09] Double don't bother. [12:09] Use VFAT. [12:09] vfat, fine by me [12:09] i use ntfs on my external usb hdd [12:09] and it works [12:09] That's because it's a magnetic drive and not solid state [12:10] ahh interesting [12:10] Doesn't NTFS uses more disk space? [12:10] sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [12:10] I have 2gigs, and it's going to all be plain text [12:10] I mean for the formatting. [12:11] so you end up with a little less than optimal? [12:11] Shingoshi, yes [12:11] Yes and no. [12:11] On large hard drives, NTFS has less overhead than FAT32. [12:11] VFAT = more options, across more systems. [12:11] vfat sounds like the winner [12:12] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-507c564598694d99) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:13] ccfreak2k: How much space is required to be considered large (hard drives)? [12:13] 100GB maybe. [12:13] Way more than any pendrive. [12:14] looking at http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/vfat.html, doesn't mention vista, which is the other machine I'll be going between [12:14] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.60.35) left irc: "Leaving" [12:16] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [12:20] alright now I'm dealing with a stupid more general issue, chown not wanting to let me change permissions of the mounted drive, even as root [12:21] arnt_ (n=arnt@host-212.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:21] hi guys [12:21] any snort guys here ? [12:23] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:23] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [12:24] jeffrey_ (n=jeffrey@59.40.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [12:25] phrag, yes? [12:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.78) joined ##slackware. [12:27] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] straterra: well i'm having trouble getting barnyard to insert alerts into mysql... i have created the table, barnyard and snort seem to be running no problem, i think it is to do with the unified logging, but not sure where to debug this [12:28] gave up, went with ext3. thanks for the help! Have 110% percent of a great day. [12:28] uouou (n=ubik@c-71-236-196-203.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:28] Sleepymess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:29] zhoun (n=guo@58.31.35.219) left irc: "‚»" [12:32] straterra: any idea's where to start ? [12:35] pookiewookie_ (n=opera@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [12:35] _guitarman_ (n=steve@209.121.157.169) joined ##slackware. [12:36] will there be an option to use kde3 when slack 13 comes out? [12:36] a backport or somting? [12:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:37] because kde4 suck big time [12:37] pookiewookie_: you can stay on 12.2 [12:37] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:37] there will be XFce 4.6.0 [12:37] pookiewookie_: albeit xfce is much better, IMO [12:37] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.248) left irc: "Leaving" [12:38] u ised to use kde3 on a laptop wth only 256 ram and with current kde4 starts to swap like crazy [12:38] so go with xfce [12:38] pookiewookie_: try xfce. You won't regret it [12:38] xfce has excellent functionality [12:39] i'm thinking about swaping to xfce or even fluxox [12:39] xfce rocks [12:39] fluxbox ftw [12:39] tho i liked e17 much better [12:39] fluxbox > all [12:39] :> [12:39] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] flux if fast and very light on resources [12:39] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:40] yeah, but, flux lacks some features [12:40] tho it's a pitty most menu entries dont match [12:40] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.12.105) joined ##slackware. [12:40] <_guitarman_> i dunno guys - i don't find kde to be any slower the xfce these days [12:40] i like fluxbox cause it isnt fatass like kde or gnome is [12:40] depends [12:40] Another option is one of the tiling wm's. [12:41] <_guitarman_> a lot of it seems to me to be the applciations themselves that carry the bulk. [12:41] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [12:41] _guitarman: agreed. KDE 3.5.10 uses a similar amount of resources as xfce on my boxes [12:41] hi, i am using slack 12.2 and i haven't modified the default kernel. i have an ati 3200hd card and i can install catalyst 8.12 with out any problems. when i try to install any 9.x catalyst driver, the installer tells me that i have errors. the error log is located here http://pastebin.com/d2da0ba31 [12:42] i tried using -current build i grabbed from here: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build [12:42] i have also done what the error log tells me to do and to make the module by havd but that doesn't work either [12:42] http://wmii.suckless.org/ is quite good. [12:42] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-82-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:42] but kde4 just crawls on my laptop [12:42] <_guitarman_> sure you can run a low footprint wm, but apps these days are big, so unless you are also running the lower resource apps, you aren't going to get much of a performance boost. hitest: agreed [12:42] <_guitarman_> well pookiewookie - that's kde4 for you ... thats another story [12:42] yeah [12:42] amen to low resource apps too. [12:43] <_guitarman_> irssi, alpine are awesome [12:43] <_guitarman_> finch is ok 2. [12:43] hi ppl [12:43] :) [12:43] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [12:43] alpine? [12:43] bitlbee > finch by mile² [12:44] mogunus: the sucsessor of pine. [12:44] i tried this as root as well 'You must change your working directory to /lib/modules/fglrx and then call ./make_install.sh in order to install the built module.' like the error log tells me to , but that will not work either. [12:44] as a windows convert i find kde3 very easy to use on slack [12:44] but now... [12:44] I just switched to bitlbee and mutt from pidgin and thunderbird. This was a fantastic decision. [12:44] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] <_guitarman_> blkdg - sorry i never did much with ati stuff :( [12:45] BP{k}: oh yeah do you get randomly signed out of bitlbee ? i wonder if thats bitlbee or msn servers [12:45] why will catalyst 9.x series not install on a defalut 12.2 installation? [12:45] thanks _guitarman_ [12:45] <_guitarman_> mogunus: i have been meaning to switch from finch to bitlbee - even have it installed, just haven't gotten around to configuring it [12:45] lw0x15: MSN servers [12:45] lw0x15: I am gonna go with MSN servers [12:46] Action: BP{k} runs screen with irssi, bitlbee, twirssi, slrn, newsbeuter :) [12:46] _guitarman_: it's great. Also I went to ERC from irssi... less happy with that, but ERC does vertical splits/multiple frames. [12:46] <_guitarman_> hey - how is slackware current running on asus eee 701's - anyone using it?? [12:46] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:46] <_guitarman_> BP{k}: I''ll check out those apps [12:46] mogunus: doesnt irssi do window splits [12:47] /help window [12:47] <_guitarman_> mogunus - cool i'll try to spend some time configing bitlbee in next few days [12:47] lw0x15: only horizontal. [12:47] BP{k}: Hey, so i got my linode. Kind of confused those, i updated it using slackpkg to 12.2, but it doesn't boot to the new kernel only the 2.6.18-linode. Now i was in the configuration profile section and there's a bunch of different kernels in there. Is that they only way to "upgrade" as far as the kernel goes? Lilo didn't seem to like it when i told it the actual device the install was on. [12:48] aaaaand firefox bites the dust again. [12:48] stillborn (n=stillbor@YMKCDXLV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Changing server" [12:48] <_guitarman_> doah [12:49] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:49] <_guitarman_> i too have probs with firefox hainging - i close it, and it doesn't go from process list, then i gotta kill -9 it. [12:49] <_guitarman_> i think its flash maybe? [12:49] Is there a similar web browser that is more stable? because this is driving me nuts. [12:49] <_guitarman_> the hang probs. [12:49] Opeera [12:49] Opera * [12:49] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] <_guitarman_> RMS shackes his fingers at pookiewookie [12:50] not open source tho [12:50] Opera is nice [12:50] I've tried SO hard to like opera. [12:50] <_guitarman_> lol - joking [12:50] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:50] :) [12:50] stillborn (n=stillbor@YMKCDXLV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:51] mogunus: FF 3.0.8 hangs? what sites are you accessing when it hangs? it happens to me as well sometimes. [12:51] what does WARNING: "pci_enable_msi" [/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.ko] undefined! mean ? [12:51] hitest: God, I donno. I have like 62 tabs open. Google summer of code site, it seems to really not like that. [12:51] i kinda started to like opera since it became free. Nice standarts compilant browser, stable as hell in my expirience [12:52] My school's stupid "turn in your homework online" site [12:52] "spark" [12:52] Opera 9.64 in slackbuilds.org seems very stable, doesn't hang. [12:52] mogunus: do they allow you to use non-IE browsers? [12:52] Everything else is static HTML content. [12:53] Docs and the suchlike. [12:53] thumbs: yeah, they do. it claims that it works with fiefox. [12:53] its was funny how on Win box if u set browser id to IE and try to visit some crack/warez site [12:53] FF 3.0.8 hangs when I try to log-in to my company oracle data base [12:53] how they try to install stufff on my mashine [12:53] anf FAIL [12:54] cuba (n=cub@84.19.45.164) joined ##slackware. [12:55] any snort guys here ? [12:55] has anyone here had anyluck installing Fglrx 9.x ? [12:56] i dont snort i oink [12:56] phrag, what problem do you have [12:56] cuba: well i'm having trouble getting barnyard to insert alerts into mysql... i have created the table, barnyard and snort seem to be running no problem, i think it is to do with the unified logging, but not sure where to debug this [12:57] JLinux (n=usr@189.115.225.207.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:57] i have snort logging alerts, and have a sensor entry in the snort.sensor, however i doesn't appear to have a cid or any entries [12:58] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-191409.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:58] in the mysql table [12:58] Lorenzu (n=gayan@112.135.205.9) joined ##slackware. [12:58] phrag, I had the same problem, without barnyard it was ok, so I decided not to use barnyard [12:59] sorry [12:59] cuba: so how did you enter the alerts into mysql ? [13:00] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.4.51) joined ##slackware. [13:01] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] phrag, I just set logging and alert storing to mysql, created schema according to the snort sql script and it was logging right to mysql [13:02] I just enabled this in snort.conf [13:02] according to the slackware tutorial on snort.org [13:03] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:03] it is working even without the barnyard...it is just a different way of doing it [13:03] ah thanks, acutally it seems i was looking in the wrong table... i will also try your method though if i can't get it working [13:03] that's awesome, thanks for the help cuba =) [13:03] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-8dbd32b994619fb2) joined ##slackware. [13:04] np, enjoy [13:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Success [13:07] sweet, got it working =) [13:08] the 'official snort channel' was no help at all [13:09] \o/ I'll maybe have "Attack of the giant moussaka" in 80 minutes :D [13:09] phrag, I know, sometimes they drop 3 or 4 words [13:10] klodovik (n=klodovik@unaffiliated/klodovik) left ##slackware. [13:10] Ramdac_ (n=Ramdac@41.232.169.26) joined ##slackware. [13:10] mousaka ? [13:10] food? [13:11] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:11] aperturefever`, yeah, that one >< [13:11] excuse me plz, is there gonna be a problem if i upgrade all my V12.2 packages to current packages using slackpkg? [13:11] Ramdac_: why? [13:12] hello, how would I go about mounting an nfs share with a certain user (I want the nfs client to be able to access the files as a certain user) [13:12] you can get some pictures (and comments but in French) at http://www.nanarland.com/Chroniques/Main.php?id_film=attaquedelamoussakageante [13:12] Akuma: mount -o uid= [13:12] thumbs:to get new things like kde 4.2 [13:13] Camarade_Tux: shit! didnt know it was greek! [13:13] uid has to be the username or the uid, and does it have to be the uid on the server or client box? [13:13] Ramdac_: read the README for current. It's not trivial [13:13] Akuma: with nfs, the uid should match across systems [13:13] Camarade_Tux: .... what .. the ... LOL [13:13] I see [13:13] any way to add that to fstab afterwards? [13:14] there should be a way. [13:14] I was reading the mount man page yesterday [13:14] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192311.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:14] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [13:14] bbl [13:14] BP{k}: thats what i thought [13:14] lmao [13:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:15] BP{k}, aperturefever, this website has one of the biggest collection of baaad movies [13:15] (if not the biggest) [13:15] In 2000, the city of Athens is threatened by a terrifying giant moussaka after an unsuccessful attempt by aliens to send something to the Earth. [13:15] lmao [13:15] aah jezz :P [13:16] thumbs: it doesnt say something useful [13:16] thumbs:it just talks about V12.2 [13:17] btw0rm (n=server@unaffiliated/btw0rm) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Ramdac_: upgrading to -current can render your system unbootable. [13:17] Ramdac_: if not done properly, that is. [13:17] Ramdac_: there should be UPGRADING.TXT too [13:17] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: No route to host [13:17] how comes slackware compile stuff automatically with the installpkg command? [13:18] compiles* [13:18] its not [13:18] thumbs:actually i intending to UPGRADE it using SLACKPKG [13:18] its extracting [13:18] Ramdac_: be VERY careful. [13:18] then you have to compile it with ./configure and make etc..? [13:19] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Ramdac_: really, IMHO, if you have to ask how to upgrade to -current, you shouldn't. :) [13:19] btw0rm, yes "./configure" is part of the compile process [13:19] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-191409.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "ZzZzZzz" [13:19] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.22.65) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Guys, I'm in some serious need of sympathy. This is the e-mail I've just send to Western Digital Customer Support: http://pastebin.ca/1381921 [13:19] Lorenzu (n=gayan@112.135.205.9) left irc: "Leaving" [13:20] lol hey btw0rm what you doin here [13:20] but there is a question in my mind what is the difference between current and V12.2 isn't 12.2 is the current version? [13:20] kkady32 (n=kkady32@78.96.167.226) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Ramdac_: no. [13:21] lol [13:21] Ramdac_: 12.2 latest stable -current is the development version [13:21] Zordrak, why dont you just buy discs from other manufacturer? [13:21] look at the versions on the packages [13:21] Ramdac_: again, you shouldn't need to ask. [13:21] Ramdac_: this is why Patrick maintains a ChangeLog (it logs what is _changed_ [13:22] what's an "RMA" ?? [13:22] pookiewookie_, request for trading parts or so [13:22] BP{k}: ok [13:22] oh [13:22] A Return Merchandise Authorization or Return Material Authorization [13:23] didnt get it from link Zordrak posted [13:23] JLinux (n=usr@189.115.225.207.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Connection reset by beer" [13:24] Zordrak: i just got a new 500 gigs WD harddrive and it gives me I/O errors as well [13:24] Zordrak: something wrong with us. It can't be that all of thier harddrives are breaking [13:24] and mine is brand new [13:25] l4m3rx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [13:25] hmm. .wierd. I never had problems with WD drives [13:26] LnxSlck: so much for sympathy. i already own them. [13:26] what are you asking for Zordrak ? i just skimmed the beginning and end of the essay [13:26] when i couln't use it at all, i took it to the warranty place and they said that those WD ones work only when partitioned a certain way. Not any partitioning techniques work [13:26] tank-man: help [13:26] sanity [13:27] human kindness [13:27] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Zordrak: they keep sending refurbished drives, eh? [13:28] nothing else [13:28] i wasnt kidding about always having one with them.. [13:29] I only put the raptor back in yesterday after finally getting it back [13:29] Zordrak: how about you stop the charges for fedex on the CC, and buy a new seagate? [13:29] i statred that rma on 7th january [13:29] TODAY.. the 640 went nutso [13:30] thumbs: i dont have the money to buy new disks [13:30] if i did id buy a NAS [13:30] i just want the ones i already own that are all warrantied till 2011 to just work [13:30] but you say you risk spending over 100$ on shippping for those rma'd drives [13:30] no.. thats advanced RNA [13:31] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:31] if you get them to send the new one before they receive the old one you have to give them a CC.. and if they dont get the old one in time, they charge you the proice of a new disk [13:31] thanks anyhow [13:31] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:31] but if you dont use advance rma it takes 3 months before you get the new drive even if you send it by UPS that day [13:34] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:37] Zordrak: you can't afford 170$ for a new seagate? [13:38] no [13:39] kkady32 (n=kkady32@78.96.167.226) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:42] BP{k}: Sorry to be pesky, did you see that message from me earlier by chance? [13:44] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [13:44] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:44] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] thumbs: if you have $170 spare, please feel free to send me one [13:44] Zordrak: not at the moment, no, sorry [13:45] agentc0re: actually I didn't see that. (note there is #linode on oftc, if you aren't already there, and a smaller #linode here on freenode [13:45] Zordrak: I would just charge my CC, and live with it [13:45] agentc0re: you don't use slackware's kernel/lilo with Xen like that. in fact you can ignore that part. [13:46] agentc0re: let me check which linode kernel I am using [13:46] agentc0re: (2.6.27.4-linode14) [13:46] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [13:47] BP{k}: Ya, i'm in linode on oftc. last time i brang up slackware irgeek started flaming it... Maybe he was joking around, but i don't know yet since i just barely started hangin out in the channel. [13:47] hey [13:48] agentc0re: some people are against slackware. I think irgeek is a bit fustrated finding out how to make a diskimage for slackware-12.2 .. every question he asks he gets 15 different answers ;) [13:48] lol [13:49] BP{k}: Gotcha. Kind of an interesting way on how things work. It's kind of throwing me off at first. [13:49] BP{k}: Heh. That's funny. [13:49] people who are against slackware lack experience with slackware. [13:49] BP{k}: I think he has something setup where when ever you mention slackware a bot says, ! People still use slackware?!?! [13:49] nothing wrong with getting 15 answers if all of them are correct [13:50] tank-man: agreed. [13:50] tank-man, why can't more people be as open minded? [13:50] agentc0re: that's mikegrb (who actually isn't a bot), he just has an autoresponder set up. [13:51] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.22.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:51] BP{k}: Ah, gotcha. [13:52] agentc0re: same as his "lol" autoresponder *shrug* [13:52] mth- (i=1000@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:52] sounds like an annoying person. [13:53] meh, mental filters ftw. ;-) [13:53] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:53] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [13:53] albeit we have a funny auto-responder for ubuntu in #apache [13:54] 13:54 <+fajita> an ancient African word meaning 'I can't install Debian' [13:54] Ramdac_ (n=Ramdac@41.232.169.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:55] thumbs: the only problem is, in situations like like last night where people are actually helping , and slackware gets mentioned often. :) [13:55] BP{k}: agree [13:58] hey guys [13:58] evening.. when i try to install slackware within vmware .. as either bus or logic disk.. it is telling me i can't write to disk when i do a cfdisk [13:58] any ideas [13:58] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [13:58] Buggaboo, hiya [13:58] Floops: are you sure you're running cfdisk against the device you really want to write to? [13:58] anyone mucked around with kvm and had the desire to hit ctrl+alt+FunctionKey to get a shell in the virtual machine session? [13:59] problem is, my host reacts to ctrl+alt... [13:59] that is the thing [13:59] /dev/hda is the default and maybe it's your cd-rom drive [13:59] Floops: run fdisk -l [13:59] only one dvice there [13:59] k [13:59] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:59] i will try. [13:59] Buggaboo, nope sorry. try checking a previous keys file or something [14:00] Floops: with the command that thumbs told you it will list all available devices [14:00] ok i wil [14:00] pookiewookie_ (n=opera@86.100.65.204) left irc: [14:00] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [14:01] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.4.51) left irc: "Leaving" [14:01] i was thinking of getting Slackware tattooed on my back in old english style font [14:02] gar0t0_ (n=Tiago@189-69-90-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:02] that would give you a good nerd score :P [14:03] ok.. geek heh [14:03] lol i have tux tattooed on my leg [14:04] I have a tux whisky glass .. custom engraved \o/ [14:04] that is interesting [14:05] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:05] Floops: what is? [14:05] disk /dev/sda 8589 mb [14:05] BP{k}, im jealous [14:05] with all the information [14:05] but then it say [14:05] sda makes sense. [14:05] disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table [14:06] Floops: umm [14:06] that is within a logic disk [14:07] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [14:07] run: dmesg | grep [sh]da [14:07] and use pastebin to put the result [14:08] ok [14:10] cuba (n=cub@84.19.45.164) left irc: "Leaving" [14:10] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:11] Cann0n: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kethry/3411647867/ [14:11] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving..." [14:12] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:12] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-8dbd32b994619fb2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.74.203) joined ##slackware. [14:14] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-aea146409676bb8c) joined ##slackware. [14:14] only pic i got of my tux tat is when i was streaking in front of a motion camera... not really a fan of posting that up on the Internet [14:14] :P thats nice. you do that? [14:15] sorry unable to get it in pastebin [14:15] http://picasaweb.google.com/rommel.sealy/SlackwareError#5320901300738301346 [14:15] that is what i get when i run: dmesg | grep [sh]da [14:15] BP{k}, did you make that? [14:16] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] ok Floops can you run: cfdisk /dev/sda ? [14:16] bzyk_ (n=bzyk@dys117.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-82-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:19] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@76.210.70.213) joined ##slackware. [14:19] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "leaving" [14:20] btw0rm (n=server@unaffiliated/btw0rm) left ##slackware. [14:20] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.186.39) joined ##slackware. [14:20] ok, i'm off to sleep, have fun with slackware Floops [14:20] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:21] thanks gbonvehim [14:23] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) left irc: "Must restart/reboot to correct messed up screen from a DOS app ran in wine m:)" [14:23] later gbonvehim [14:23] gbonvehim, [14:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:23] that worked [14:23] thanks again [14:24] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [14:24] Cann0n: no a good friend of mine, engraves glasses. She made if for me as a present. [14:24] jescisp2s (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) left irc: "goes for me too" [14:25] BP{k}, thats a good job for being non-mechanized robot voodoo. very nice. [14:27] anyone know of a project for a minimal slack install, able to run in ~64MB of RAM (in a vm) ... only needs to have iptables and basic networking ... I need to test an experimental routing protocol [14:28] Just find a list of the required packages and use that. [14:28] Cann0n: I agree. She completly suprised me with it, She knew I liked using Linux, so she went on the net, found an image of tux, bought the glass and presented it to me when it was done. [14:29] ccfreak2k: as far as I understand that should be a/ with some from n/ for networking and whatever you want from ap/ to make it a bit nicer to work in ... [14:30] what I'm looking to avoid is building a stripped down kernel [14:31] why not? thats the best part of linux... fine tuning a system to the most potential [14:31] jar_corefile, cross-compile? [14:31] BP{k}: me likey [14:31] Cann0n: indeed, and I've done my share of that, but I'm looking to get something up and running very quickly [14:32] fred: :) [14:32] haste makes waste. ;) [14:32] :) [14:32] vinegaro1n (n=sam@119.224.26.179) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:32] oculus_ (i=linux@36-2.cable.lpoy.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [14:32] vinegaroon (n=sam@119.224.26.179) joined ##slackware. [14:33] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:33] ccfreak2k: I don't think I'll need to as it'll just be running in virtualbox [14:34] Well just use huge.s then. [14:34] I don't understand what the big deal is. [14:34] So how do I do this: install very basic system of slackware on 100MB USB stick and boot a Samsung NC10 laptop with it. And then install slackware into the hd of that Samsung laptop by doing a network install. So I have to get the network working too. I don't have other USB devices (like cdrom) available [14:35] oculus_, alienBOB has a USB install guide somewhere. [14:38] well, later folks [14:39] time to hit tho road [14:39] blac43 (n=GuyGuy99@h188n2fls32o895.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [14:43] oculus_: why install slackware on the usb stick instead of using the slackware usb boot image? [14:45] How large is the boot image? [14:45] 27megs [14:45] Where can I get it? [14:46] off the mirrors [14:46] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) joined ##slackware. [14:46] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-aea146409676bb8c) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:46] I found it already, wasn't on all the mirrors I guess [14:47] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:47] well yes it should be, if the mirror is official [14:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:47] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-983318c0dd565f42) joined ##slackware. [14:47] So I have a bootable USB that boots into debian installer (it has that syslinux thing) I just delete the debian image and put the Slackware image there and it should boot into slackware? [14:49] look on the mirrors...in the same place you found the image [14:49] this is all documented [14:49] I have downloaded it already but I was wondering about how to boot it [14:49] i understand that [14:50] read the documentation in the mirrors [14:50] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@76.210.70.213) left irc: "Leaving" [14:51] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-9-179.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:53] giuppy (n=giuppy@host78-173-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:53] I think I cant boot slackware with syslinux :( [14:54] i don't know why you're even talking about syslinux [14:54] dd the boot image to the stick per the README_USB.txt document [14:57] Just a few weeks ago I installed slackware-current on my own netbook using that usbboot.img file (which I copied to a USB stick using dd) [14:58] Just boot from that USB stick afterwards, see the Slackware installer present itself, and select one of the installation methods that works for you [14:58] if you lack a second workstation or server to use as your package server you can just download the packages to the hard disk that has debian on it already, put them into /slackware-packages. then boot off the slackware installer USB stick that you created and just delete all of the debian related directories but leave the /slackware-packages in place. type setup to enter the installer and select the debian disk as your target and choose do not f [14:59] i think that should work [15:01] alienBOB: which netbook did you settle on? [15:03] why shouldn't it be possible to boot slackware with syslinux? [15:04] i thought it's just a bootloader, nothing more. [15:04] Nick change: Sleepymess -> Emess [15:04] stybla: the whole point is that the USB boot image takes care of all this [15:04] nullboy: do i argue on that? [15:04] umm no did i? [15:05] no! [15:05] ok... [15:05] fine_._ [15:05] crap :) [15:06] I hope slackware works with Samsung NC10 networks (both wireless and LAN) [15:07] i'd say it depends on kernel, not slackware. [15:07] it's not a windows, you know. [15:07] well NC10 is the laptop model. what chipsets does it use for wireless and lan? [15:08] nullboy: use google *g* [15:08] and take it as a joke, please. [15:08] stybla: umm [15:08] he asked the question. [15:08] *sigh* [15:08] it's not my laptop so i am suggesting things for him to search for [15:09] hahah [15:09] A reverse lmgtfy! [15:09] :) [15:11] sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:11] if the laptop has an atheros AR2425 it will work fine [15:12] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:13] nullboy: I bought an Asus eeepc 1000h [15:13] alienBOB: working out well with slackware? [15:13] 6600mAh battery and 160 GB harddisk [15:13] dang [15:13] nullboy: yes! [15:13] I have not tried the bluetooth yet but everything else works so far [15:14] nice [15:14] The kernel in slackware-current is better for netbooks than the one in slackware 12.2 [15:14] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.74.203) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:14] alienBOB: how much was it? [15:14] My LAN, wireless cards were recognized, the webcam too [15:15] 360 euros - I guess that amounts to the same number of dollars if you buy it in the US [15:15] And by now it is even cheaper [15:16] that's awesome. i'm in the market for a netbook that i can use for traveling since my main laptop is about 7 pounds with both batteries installed. Now i can get better uptime in a smaller package for traveling [15:17] oculus_: looks like you probably have Atheros WIFI which can use madwifi or ath5k and ethernet LAN is supported by the sky2 module [15:17] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_NC10 [15:25] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [15:27] i wanna get the acer netbook [15:27] theirs look cool [15:27] and are like seem to be the best for what you apy [15:27] *pay [15:32] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [15:34] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.42.162) left irc: [15:34] reallove (n=d@unaffiliated/reallove) left irc: "HEY! Must be the BitchX!" [15:36] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:36] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:38] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [15:39] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [15:40] I just found out there exists vboxgtk, a GTK Frontend to VirtualBox similar to the Qt4 one. [15:40] Those who would like to have VirtualBox, but don't want to install Qt4 might take a look at it. [15:40] here's the link: http://www.xente.mundo-r.com/narf/vboxgtk/ [15:43] I just booted slackware installation from installation cd1 to a virtual machine, how do I know how big ram drive this has? [15:44] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:44] cat /proc/meminfo [15:44] or try to remember what you set it as [15:46] oculus_: the Slackware installer does not use a "ramdrive". The initramfs which is contained in the isolinux/initrd.img loads directly into kernel space [15:47] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] The installer in Slackware 12.2 requires a little over 70 MB iirc. The one in -current needs less than 64 MB of RAM to work [15:48] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] ah i misread his question [15:49] O maybe I did ;-) [15:50] But now I need to know why I cant get keyboard to anything else than US? I remember that I had this problem back in the Slackware 10 days [15:51] anyone know anything about getting a palm to sync in slackware [15:51] oculus_: if you could not figure that out between Slackware 10 and now, then maybe Slackware is too difficult for you [15:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:52] oculus_: how about you tell us what you tried, and what error you got then? [15:52] alienBOB, at least installer doesnt change the layout [15:52] The installer asks you what keyboard layout you have [15:52] It doesnt give any errors [15:52] It just happily accepts the new layout but wont display all the characters I need [15:52] What characters would you need to install Slackware? [15:52] like åöä [15:52] why is it so important the chars you have during the install? [15:53] when all you need to do is press enter and a few other keys? [15:53] Kaapa, it isnt, but when I start to using this I will need them. I just remembered that I could never get these to work in Slackware 0 [15:53] 10 [15:53] radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [15:53] oculus_: the keyboard mapping in the installer is basic. It is not the same used in real Slackware [15:53] here's 2 chars for you: á and è [15:53] and I use slack! [15:54] if I can do it, so do you :p [15:54] :-) [15:54] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:54] LinuxyErin, yea it works [15:54] radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:55] i use kpilot [15:55] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:56] So if I just write mount, it will show every device that is mountable? [15:57] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host217-43-119-230.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:57] if you type mount and press enter, it will mount any thing in /etc/fstab that is set to automount [15:58] oh [15:58] or not [15:58] if you use the "-a" switch i mean [15:58] if you just type mount it will probably ask for more info [15:58] oh crap, this has only vi text editor [15:58] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Time to start learning vi real fast then oculus_ [16:00] I want my nano :( [16:01] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:02] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.53.228.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] everyone should know how to use vi [16:04] I've used it a lot but I hate it [16:05] why does this fonts in slackware FF look different than in ZW for example,,same font and size [16:05] stillborn: ZW? [16:05] zenwalk [16:09] stillborn: is that another distro? [16:11] Oh crap, can't I connect to ftp with slackware installation cd? [16:12] Involuntary (n=Jeanne-K@225.Red-212-170-16.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Involuntary (n=Jeanne-K@225.Red-212-170-16.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:12] Jeanne-Kamikaze (n=Jeanne-K@225.Red-212-170-16.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] oculus_: no, you can use a live cd for that purpose. What do you need from the Internet at that stage, anyway? [16:13] thumbs, so I can make a USB boot disk with the Slackware USB image. [16:14] But it seems I have to install a working slackware into virtual machine first and then make that bootdisk [16:14] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:15] can you not copy ftp and all the required libs onto a pendrive, and then exec it from there? [16:16] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] oculus_: why do you need a virtual Slackware first? [16:17] Any dd can create your bootdisk. Even windows has a dd.exe available somewhere [16:20] Well I couldnt find a way to do this in Windows and I started the installation already :D [16:22] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-152-245.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:22] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: "01001110 01100101 01110010 01100100 00100001" [16:30] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Gurizim (n=wxxvybxo@189.70.121.150) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [16:32] mth- (n=gound@pc-177-171-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] aaaa [16:32] alguem me ajuda? [16:32] x~ [16:32] Gurizim: English? [16:33] portuguese x~ [16:34] Gurizim: por favor hablas Ingles en este canal [16:34] install wireless notebook acer aspire 5050 slackware 12.2 [16:34] o que ajudará? [16:34] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [16:34] i dont speak inglish [16:34] nao to conseguindo instalar o wireless no slack [16:34] x~ [16:34] this is an English channel. [16:34] i dont speak inglish either, i usually speak english [16:35] he couldnt install a wlan in slackware :| [16:36] hey guys, i'm building an IPS with snort logging to mysql... i want to script something that will poll mysql, grab alert source IP and update iptable entries.. what scripting language do you think would be best for this (i only really know bash well enough, but can learn what i need) [16:39] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.53.228.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:39] gar0t0_ (n=Tiago@189-69-90-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "rah" [16:40] phrag: i suggest php [16:40] it works good for cli scripting [16:40] and has really good stuff for mysql and that sort of stuff [16:41] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75860.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] kareemx (n=kareemx@cpe-76-171-23-78.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] hi room [16:41] greetings [16:41] oh hai guys [16:41] slackytude: Hey, how's it going? [16:41] is there a faq for mastering a livecd? [16:42] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:42] hey tewmten, i was thinking php... would sit nicely with a web gui i'm thinking about also [16:42] phrag: yeah you can use it in cli also you know [16:42] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] firebird619, heya. doing fine, spent most of the day outside enjoying the nice weather [16:42] i use it alot for cli scripts [16:42] especially when handling data from mysql etc [16:42] my php skills == 0 atm though [16:42] slackytude: it's snowing here. :D [16:42] phrag: pfft [16:42] firebird619, O_o [16:42] phrag: i thought you was a techie.. just learn it [16:42] ffs [16:42] :D [16:43] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-983318c0dd565f42) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:43] firebird619, no fun [16:43] easy enough to pick up? i don't hve too much time [16:43] have you ever done perl? [16:43] slackytude: No, not at all. [16:43] tewmten: yeah, my diss is due in 3 weeks! [16:43] oufh im fucken drunk [16:43] oh well [16:43] yeah php is real easy [16:43] slackytude: most of it's melting as soon as it hits the ground though, so it won't be here for long. :) [16:43] also if you have scripted perl is alot of similarities [16:44] firebird619, where are you again? [16:44] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-7b104d49439b8ef6) joined ##slackware. [16:44] slackytude: Minnesota. :) [16:44] phrag: well my suggestion [16:44] make a php script that gets the data you want from the db [16:44] firebird619, isnt that supposed to be warmer= [16:45] phrag: then call it from a bash script which takes the data and runs an iptables command [16:45] slackytude: It's been crazy weather here, past couple days it was in the 40s and 50s and now it's 34 and snowing. [16:45] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.209) joined ##slackware. [16:45] firebird619, eh, crazy weather all over. [16:46] phrag: thats how i do alot of my scripting stuff.. php and bash [16:46] slackytude: yeah, sure is. Soon it should start warming up here though. [16:46] phrag: of course you can have a php script do it all.. i just like to keep it separate to have a bit of organized structure in my scripts tho [16:47] personal preference i guess [16:49] dd if=usbboot.img of=/dev/sda bs=512 [16:49] what is thea meaning of bs=512? 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[16:53] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:53] depends... if i can i'm there [16:53] you're whipped? [16:53] no no, career wise [16:53] stop being such a bitch dude [16:53] :D [16:53] of course you have to go [16:53] no girl tells me what to do... an employer maybe =P [16:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420755.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:54] yeah i guess [16:54] no one tells me what to do [16:54] like my boss has some stupid ideas how to do stuff [16:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420755.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:54] im all like "no thats not good, lets do it my way instead" [16:55] and it works most of the time because i has better ideas [16:55] megalomania is my middle name ;) [16:55] Gurizim (n=wxxvybxo@189.70.121.150) left irc: "CyberScript - not made by microsoft (www.cyberscript.org)" [16:55] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:55] there are worse names [16:56] rizitis (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [16:56] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [16:57] Nick change: edman007_ -> edman007|work [17:03] twanny796 (n=twanny@85.232.204.152) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:04] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:04] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] im trying to make a '.desktop' servicemenu for konqueror, that opens an iso for folder view. I copied a working script from PCLinuxOS. But when I right click on iso and choose the iso action it opens k3b. What do I need to make this script work correctly? http://pastebin.com/m5de9cc5d [17:09] yeah, it is now possible to have your kernel compressed with lzma instead of gzip \o/ [17:09] nice. [17:11] I should get a kernel at about 1.5MB :) [17:11] what's the advantage of lzma over gzip? [17:11] better compression [17:11] decomprssion speed should be about the same [17:11] i remember kernels that were about 800kb... [17:12] but mine has almost everything built-in [17:12] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2509264 2009-03-10 00:08 /slack_proper/boot/slamd64-2.6.27.7_my1 <--- wow! [17:13] 2.5MB :O [17:14] that's amazing that the kernel has grown so much [17:14] he, compression failed [17:15] for lzma? [17:15] "/bin/sh: lzma: command not found" [17:15] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-7b104d49439b8ef6) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:15] no lzma-tools in slamd64builds [17:16] ah you're on slamd64 as well [17:16] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.155.139) joined ##slackware. [17:16] kernels used to fit on a floppy. [17:17] I guess half the channel actually runs on slamd64 ;p [17:17] I've been running slack 12.0 since today :/ [17:17] s/runs on/runs/ [17:17] i am waiting for slamd128 [17:17] thumbs, indeed. you used to be able to also dd the kernel onto the floppy device :) [17:17] 128but machine? hah [17:17] *bit [17:18] "address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual" :( [17:18] but sizeof(int) should be 8 on this [17:18] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [17:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) joined ##slackware. [17:19] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [17:19] actually sizeof(long) should be [17:19] harjar (n=oddharja@cFD945BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [17:21] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:24] how can I format fat32 partition into ext2 or 3? [17:25] mkfs.ext3 doesnt work [17:25] it should [17:25] Your question does not make sense [17:25] what error do you get? [17:25] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't know if he'll be able to reboot [17:25] Camarade_Tux: uh oh [17:25] mkfs not found [17:25] Camarade_Tux: don't reboot! [17:25] (and my bzImage/vmlinuz is 1.9MB now) [17:25] You should delete the fat32 partition [17:25] alienBOB, no! [17:25] And create a Linux partition [17:25] no [17:26] partition type is irrelevant [17:26] and you can also just change it on the fly using fdisk [17:26] Action: DralaFi has had ext3 filesystems on partitions marked as NTFS in the past [17:26] DralaFi: true [17:26] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: "rebooting" [17:26] I just deleted the stock kernel and don't have the packages on my hard-drive (they're on the external hard drive that is just right to me but unpowered) [17:26] guess I'll use the intertubes [17:27] Camarade_Tux, what packages do you need to make a new kernel? [17:27] oculus_, use mkfs.ext3 [17:28] /sbin/mkfs.ext3 -> mke2fs [17:28] or is it that you dont have mke2fs installed? [17:28] DralaFi, basically those in d/ (dev86, gcc, make, [17:28] s/,/)/ [17:29] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.209) left irc: "Leaving." [17:29] lol I dont have mkfs.ext3 but ext2 is here [17:29] Camarade_Tux, heh. I didnt ask for me, i was asking what ones you needed that you didnt have ;) [17:29] oculus_, /sbin/mkfs.ext2 -> mke2fs [17:30] DralaFi, right, I was a bit surprised you asked ;) [17:30] it's the same program, just -J is added [17:30] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/lzma/ [17:30] Do I have to restart so that it will appear as ext2? [17:30] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] let's try this git kernel :D [17:31] Camarade_Tux, hehe how come you were surprised? that implies that you know me and know that i've compiled kernels lots of times [17:31] oh wait. [17:31] DralaFi, well, you're on a slackware channel, running slamd64 ;) [17:31] Camarade_Tux, i could be using the default kernel ;) [17:31] and know the size of a kernel :) [17:31] well true :) [17:32] Action: alienBOB wonders at slamd64 users trying to get help in ##slackware .. kind of strange [17:32] well, we're not really trying to get help ;) [17:32] alienBOB, #slamd64 is full of sleeping people :) [17:33] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:33] oh no, ## got hijacked :o [17:33] damn punks [17:33] ok, let's reboot and if it still works, I'll start using btrfs :D [17:34] fevel (n=fevel@201.17.112.252) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-88-189.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:34] DralaFi: as if I care [17:34] Apparently slamd64 people do not want to give support [17:35] you seem angry :( [17:37] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:37] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-88-189.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:37] gah, I hate nvidia's driver [17:37] why? [17:37] wb Camarade_Tux [17:37] hahaha [17:37] it doesn't build of course ;) [17:38] oh? mine built.. [17:38] something you are missing in your install? [17:38] no, just a post 2.6.29 kernel ;p [17:39] oh. :( is there a fix for it? [17:39] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] wait for nvidia [17:40] DralaFi: I guess providing a fix before rc1 doesn't make much sense [17:40] it could break again within minutes [17:40] let's see if the most recent driver fixes that, otherwise I'll just fix it by myself like I did at least twice [17:40] oh le con [17:41] (I hate firefox !) [17:41] lol why do you hate firefox? [17:41] pprkut, are you saying that the nvidia drivers wont work with 2.6.29.1 or 2.6.29-git12 or... [17:41] ? [17:41] Camarade_Tux: I'm on 2.6.29-rt with Geforce FX5200 and the latest drivers from nvidia with the slackbuild from SBo, worked great for me. [17:42] i'm on 2.6.29 with an 8800gts and the latest nvidia is working for me [17:42] Camarade_Tux, i hate firefox too! It used to be light and fast. now it's big and bloated :( and addressbar sucks. [17:42] lol yea [17:42] because I wanted it to save my tabs but ff doesn't always save them, sometimes it just closes them (when you close the browser that is) [17:42] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Opera ftw :D [17:42] Action: DralaFi might try opera - seen that at work and it's very fast and seems very good [17:42] i cant wait for seamonkey 2.0 to come out [17:42] firebird619, good to know, trying now [17:42] DralaFi: no, I'm just saying that IF it does not work with a current git snapshot, providing a patch before 2.6.30rc1 doesn't make much sense [17:42] Camarade_Tux: Good luck, hope it works for you too. :) [17:42] seamonkey is now using XUL, I don't know if it will be any better than current ff [17:43] pprkut, ah yes I see what you mean [17:43] glen2 (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [17:43] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-88-189.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:44] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:44] oh yeah [17:44] opera ftw [17:45] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [17:45] Action: slackytude high fives firebird619 [17:45] hehe [17:45] slackytude: You tried the latest snapshot of Opera 10, hunspell by default now and automatic creation of crash logs in linux. [17:46] firebird619, Ive got it at work. seemed fine so far [17:46] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] Yeah, it seems really stable, and fast. [17:46] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] firebird619, I could even do all of chromeexperiments this time [17:46] okay, having a bunch of trouble getting X to show up on my tv [17:46] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [17:46] how do I see the output of "startx"? [17:46] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] so I can figure out what's wrong? I can only see the last 10 lines [17:46] I am trying out the latest snapshot now with those new above features. Can't test the crash log thing though, the thing doesn't crash. :D [17:46] redtricycle, swicth to the console you started it [17:47] redtricycle, or check the logs [17:47] firebird619, heh, yeah [17:47] slackytude: I had to install hunspell my self so opera would use that. [17:47] I think I am gonna head down to the office [17:47] Action: slackytude nods [17:47] It has inline spell-checking now too. [17:47] thumbs, on a saturday? [17:48] slackytude: yes. [17:48] firebird619, yeah, but I dont like it that much actually [17:48] thumbs, what for [17:48] slackytude: I have a fast computer there, and my laptop is dead, and this server is too slow [17:48] eh [17:49] slackytude: p3 1GHz, too little ram and too many processes [17:49] slackytude: FF is dog slow here, and I run slack 11.0 too [17:49] Action: thumbs needs a new server [17:50] ah...maybe that's why it's not working...it's trying to disable my monitor EDID on the s-video [17:50] try opera:P [17:50] maybe i shuold unplug my monitor.. [17:50] fevel (n=fevel@201.17.112.252) left irc: [17:50] slackytude: slightly faster. [17:50] slackytude: still too slow. [17:51] thumbs: yes,another distro that I tried recently and wondered why it's font's look different(more pretty) than ours [17:51] HEY, I need a good text to speech reader...I can't use KMouth...Does anyone know of a good one on slackbuilds.org? [17:51] [] [17:52] anyone a professional on the subject [17:54] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-88-189.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:54] well, it wants a struct field that has been removed on Feb 20. and that driver is to annoying to patch [17:55] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:56] maybe I'll just "git checkout v2.6.29" ='( [17:57] eh [17:57] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Client Quit [17:57] Im still on 12.1 with 2.6.24.5 [17:58] Action: slackytude is oldschool [17:58] 1 smart guy,,,who values his free time [18:00] stillborn: 12.1 was solid. [18:01] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:01] i thought every release is solid [18:01] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.12.105) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:02] I guess I'll just forget the nvidia driver for one week and stay current on the kernel :D [18:02] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] you on btrfs now, Camarade_Tux ? [18:03] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [18:03] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:03] slackytude, no, not yet :D [18:04] I want to get some bread first (bread and butter, sorry...) [18:04] was that some pun on btrfs or are you just hungry? [18:05] some bad pun ;) [18:05] (since you can pronounce betterfs or butterfs) [18:05] ah [18:05] its a sucky name [18:06] bread and butter ftw ! ;p [18:06] mo bettah buttah [18:06] why not call it awesomeFS [18:06] or something, anything [18:06] no, they said, its btrfs [18:07] hmmmm, crispFS [18:07] fishandchipsFS [18:07] beerFS :D [18:07] aye! [18:07] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-51.bard.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:08] may forget your data and react very slowly ;) [18:08] but it helps ugly people having sex [18:08] I want that in a FS [18:09] it might get agressive too [18:09] he [18:09] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [18:09] "are you looking at me?" [18:09] (and phone people at random) [18:09] lol [18:09] at 4am [18:09] maybe we should directly make IcanhazgirlzFS [18:10] sounds good ^-^ [18:10] anyone know anything about opera voice? [18:10] I know I dont have one [18:10] never heard anythign about that [18:11] slackytude, ;p [18:11] ^-^ [18:11] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.27.78) joined ##slackware. [18:11] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-191409.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:12] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host217-43-119-230.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:13] need to sleep now, good night [18:13] see ya [18:13] he, nv makes my computer hotter (it is idle currently) [18:17] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.53.228.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:18] strange [18:18] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:18] greetings [18:19] Action: slackytude waves [18:19] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:20] green grape anyone? [18:20] no, thx [18:20] blac43 (n=GuyGuy99@h188n2fls32o895.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:20] Action: slackytude has beer [18:22] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.12.105) joined ##slackware. [18:23] Everclear! [18:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] Jeanne-Kamikaze (n=Jeanne-K@225.Red-212-170-16.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Did you hear that ?" [18:24] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:27] mib_skw9d4dd (i=440046c3@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a35c272682786adb) joined ##slackware. [18:27] gts (n=gts@189-041-15-237.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:27] I have a game torrent question can anyone help? [18:28] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:29] ask [18:29] this is going to be fun [18:30] shelldude (n=kris@cm-84.208.98.227.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [18:30] mib_skw9d4dd (i=440046c3@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a35c272682786adb) left irc: Client Quit [18:30] we don't condone piracy here, if that's what it pertains to [18:31] there are many ways to ask a question though [18:31] ok. bring me your shellscript idea and if i like it, i'll implement it and post the script here! [18:32] shelldude: wtf [18:32] shelldude, ? [18:32] what? i'm bored.. [18:32] So? No excuse to get all spammy [18:32] spammy? [18:33] o_O [18:33] what the heck are you talking about [18:33] i meant post the script in an url if you don't realise.. [18:33] Jumping into the channel like you did here [18:33] lol? [18:34] you don't join a channel and say gimmie your code randomly, thats just wrong [18:35] gimme all your loven, all your huggs & kisses too - ZZ Top [18:35] i think someone needs to learn to read [18:35] he didnt ask for code phrag... [18:35] Pig_Pen: rofl! [18:35] He asked if people wanted a script, which he'll code, from what I gathered [18:36] that's correct [18:36] ok, i see that now... still, random and suspect [18:36] but nm [18:36] Which he'll code "if he likes the idea" [18:36] all i get is flak [18:36] is tonight fight night ? [18:36] Pig_Pen: I want the '32 roadster they used in their videos :) [18:36] Some sort of introduction would have been nicer shelldude [18:36] Soul_keeper, sure feels like it ;) [18:36] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [18:36] that would make a fine wagon to cruise down the main drag in [18:36] wtf, i offer my services for free and get nothing but flak.. [18:36] shelldude (n=kris@cm-84.208.98.227.getinternet.no) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:37] weirdo [18:37] sometimes I wonder what the do in windows channels, probably talk about their feelings and emotions [18:37] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:37] I offer my services... wow [18:37] nah ... shortage of beer [18:37] Soul_keeper: they try to decihper error emssages :) [18:37] We should have bowed and chanted I guess [18:37] lol [18:37] more like he's looking for credit [18:38] Yeah [18:38] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-9-179.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:38] _chess_ (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess/x-7295101) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:38] i guess if anyone had a good idea that could be scripted, they would of done it themselves [18:38] Weird...Okay, in my xorg.conf, in my Device section, I have "Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"" [18:38] yet, when I run glxinfo [18:38] Our mibbit friend never asked his piracy question ;-) [18:38] it shows it as on [18:39] o_o [18:39] these are fglrx drivers, btw [18:39] alienBOB: i think i scared him off o.0 [18:39] alienBOB, yeah, noticed that too [18:39] phrag: I guess he underestimated the average slacker [18:39] he == shelldude [18:39] never underestimate the slacker =P [18:39] ?? [18:39] I dont understand what he did [18:39] why is everybody mad at him? [18:39] not really mad [18:40] unless there's some history [18:40] its out of boredom i guess [18:40] http://omegle.com/ << if you are bored [18:40] no one is mad, just suspect... if he had been a regular, or been in the channel more than 5 seconds, we would not have raised an eyebrow [18:40] slackytude: weird O_o [18:41] We've seen too many spammers act like he did [18:41] ah, okay [18:41] I'll defer to experience then o_o [18:41] aperturefever, but fun ^-^ [18:41] i defer to a bacon sandwhich 8o) [18:42] redtricycle: nvidia-settings ? [18:42] phrag: I wish...ati proprietary drivesrs, fglrx [18:42] Action: phrag hides [18:42] >_< [18:42] trying to make old hardware work -_- [18:43] RadeonX300 card [18:43] dunno mate, gave up on ati many many moons ago [18:43] Detects the tv [18:43] but is blank [18:43] nod, just giving it a shot [18:43] been at this for a week now [18:45] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.53.228.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:49] arrrrrg [18:49] I think I might buy an nVidia card [18:49] and then know, in the back of my head [18:49] that I was defeat [18:49] defeated* [18:49] Action: redtricycle sobs [18:50] _chess_ (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess/x-7295101) joined ##slackware. [18:50] bbl [18:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [18:53] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [18:58] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [18:58] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: "Leaving." [18:58] if i had plenty of cash i would buy a Matrox video card [19:00] hmmm 2005 BMW 325i for $23k [19:00] heh [19:01] question is, do you really need a BMW for 23k [19:01] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:01] naw, for 23k I can get a 2008 Grand Marquis with only 14k clicks on it [19:01] for 23k i would go after saab [19:02] but i prefer walking/metro [19:02] or a 2008 Crown Vic with 24k clicks and have 7k left for tuning [19:02] yup, for 23k there are a lot of choices in the auto market, like a toyota pickup with fibreglass campershell [19:02] heh [19:02] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:03] I like trucks but my back has pretty much eliminated them from any possible consideration [19:03] ah, you need a smooth riding ragtop [19:03] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:03] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:04] rizitis (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: "KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/" [19:04] I'd like something about the size of my current ride but that's ahrd to find at an affordable price [19:05] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.254) joined ##slackware. [19:06] I might actually be happier by taking that anmount of money and restoring this car plus some performance upgrades [19:06] with the economy the way it is i would not be surprized if you could get a new car for 23k [19:06] get something nice to restore, like a late 1960's muscle car [19:07] Pig_Pen: you can but I prefer to drive soemthing larger than a sardine can on wheels [19:07] dudes, for 23k Id be sitting on a sunny beach for some years [19:07] actually 23k for a 2008 marquis with 14 thou on it isn;'t bad [19:07] is it worth is to get an old mustang and restore it ? [19:07] add in some haggling and might get it to an even 20 [19:08] aperturefever: depends on the condition of the car you're restoring [19:08] and whether you're into cars [19:08] hum.. true [19:08] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [19:08] i guess it needs more personal work [19:09] some are, right now i know where a 1969 mustang Mark3 is sitting in a garage, the body is perfect, needs an engine & trans overhaul and new interier, no rust on the bodywork, just needs sanded & painted [19:09] Pig_Pen: niiiice [19:09] it still has that original dark green paint with the stipes [19:09] drop a 351 small block in that with a nice 4 or five speed stick ... [19:10] yup, the perfect streetrox [19:10] rod [19:10] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:10] holley 4 barrel, edelbrock manifolds and headers ... [19:11] black diamond tuck & roll seats [19:11] semi-flow thru exhaust with 2.5" pipes, [19:11] 12 bolt rear end [19:11] hmm, who is good with making initrds for a lvm root? any clue what "Failed to create /dev/sda" means? why?!?! (this is gentoo...not that it booted far enough to matter) [19:11] i would have to restore the original paintjob that dark green & strips looked cool [19:12] and some 8 track tape player [19:12] some nice cragar rims [19:12] Action: slackytude hides [19:12] heh I have a brand new one still in the palstic in the absement [19:12] lol @ the 8 track [19:12] ^-^ [19:12] NyteOwl, brand new? [19:12] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.12.105) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:13] yep [19:13] edman007|work: i avoid initrd, there is a readme file in /boot within slackware, it is probably in the mkinitrd package [19:13] it came with my first car but I never installed it [19:13] aftermarket unit [19:13] I forget the brand now [19:14] it's still all wraped in the palstic in the basement [19:14] Pig_Pen, well the thing is if you want root lvm you MUST have an initrd (though you can compile it into the kernel, you need scripts to run before the rootfs is monted) [19:14] Action: NyteOwl is a packrat [19:14] edman007|work: the mkinitrd program is very specific to the distro [19:14] So, what works for Slackware will not always translate to gentoo [19:14] NyteOwl, sounds nice [19:14] <_RadioHead> evening Alan_Hicks [19:14] <_RadioHead> ups alienBOB [19:14] NyteOwl, Ive never seen an 8 track to be hones [19:15] honest [19:15] alienBOB, i am hacking the initrd made by mkinitrd... [19:15] slackytude: I even have a Pioneer 8-track player/record deck on the stereo ;p [19:15] heh ^-^ [19:15] you should build your kernels so that an initrd is not required to boot, that is if you went through the trouble to rebuild the kernel [19:16] Pig_Pen: what I wish I could do was transplant the old engine from my Granada into the TBird (BOSS 302) [19:16] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.254) left irc: "Leaving" [19:16] the 3.8l isn;t a bad 6 but it just doesn't have the guts of that 8 [19:17] Pig_Pen, no, with LVM you MUST run vgscan && vgchange -ay before the rootfs is mounted, which means you MUST have an initrd (though it can be compiled in so the bootloader does not know about it) [19:17] menuconfig > Device Drivers > Multiple devices driver support (RAID & LVM) be sure to select * for Device Mapper Support (not a M) [19:17] jpsnl3 (n=jp01@h240146.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:18] Pig_Pen, yes, but that does not turn the LVM stuff on, it only makes vgchange work [19:18] edman007|work, compile in an initrd? [19:18] edman007|work: the gentoo initrd does not support lvm out of the box? [19:18] slackytude, yea..there is an option to point the kernel to a folder to compile in as an initrd [19:18] funky. didnt know that [19:19] alienBOB, i don't know..it made one, but it does not work [19:19] jpsnl3 (n=jp01@h240146.upc-h.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [19:19] it put some lvm commands in there, but they fail with locking errors, and it can't create the devices... [19:19] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] like the disk initrd is read only...but i don't know who it would be... 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[19:38] http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/03/04/a-neat-trick-for-removing-bearing-races/ [19:40] bbiab [19:40] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [19:40] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "cya" [19:46] nullboy: nice trick [19:48] Okay, I have this error message when I try to "modprobe fglrx" in the dmesg: [19:48] fglrx: Unknown symbol pci_disable_msi [19:48] fglrx: Unknown symbol pci_enable_msi [19:48] googling tells me to recompile the kernel [19:48] What special commands do I need to run to compile the kernel with this enabled? [19:49] Amtrak conductor: We are experiencing engine problems and need to change trains. But I want you to know that we have lost no altitude. --Amtrak Train [19:49] heh,fun [19:50] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [19:51] buzzzzzzzzz [19:53] redtricycle: CONFIG_PCI_MSI=y [19:54] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-90-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:55] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-51.bard.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:55] even if he has msi enabled in the kernel he'll still get the same warning [19:55] fglrx works with or without it, unlike nvidia which requires it now [19:56] anyone here with a HP mini-note 2133 , with slackware installed ? [19:56] i'll paste what alienbob said a few days ago... [19:56] Well...if fglrx works without it, shouldnt I not be receiving this message? [19:56] root@newcaprica:/etc/X11# modprobe fglrx [19:56] FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/external/fglrx.ko.gz): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [19:57] >_< [19:57] I just helped someone on the same issue earlier, enabling and disabling msi support in the kernel didn't make it go away [19:57] he was using the exact same kernel as you are ... [19:57] odd error, seems like one or the other would make it go away [19:57] was that you ? [19:57] nope [19:57] I'm just running into this now [19:57] i have slackware 12.2 kernel [19:57] default [19:58] then I'd go out on a limb here and say it's a bug either with 9.3 fglrx or with the 2.6.27.7 kernel [19:58] is this a kernel patch redtricycle ? [19:59] the other guy had slack 12.2 default kernel and the same issue aswell [19:59] Pig_Pen: no, I'm reading this thread:http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/help-installing-ati-drivers-708518/ [19:59] Soul_keeper: he recompiled his kernel? [19:59] ah, the dreaded ati drivers [19:59] did he compile ti with what nullboy said? [19:59] I don't get the issue with fglrx 9.3 and slack 12.1 with 2.6.24.5 [19:59] ÿ(16:52:59) nullboy: redtricycle: CONFIG_PCI_MSI=y [20:00] it was already enabled in his [20:00] redtricycle: one sec [20:00] nvidia is dependable but cheap, if i had plenty of cash to throw at the problem i would buy a Matrox video card [20:00] so we tryed disabling it with the boot param and still got the same problem [20:00] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-51.bard.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:01] ...how did he know it was enabled? I thought stock Slackware 12.2 didnt have it [20:01] cat /usr/src/linux/.config |grep MSI [20:01] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [20:02] root@newcaprica:/etc/X11# cat /usr/src/linux/.config |grep MSI [20:02] CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_MSI=y [20:02] # CONFIG_PCI_MSI is not set [20:02] Channel flood from redtricycle -- kicking [20:02] CONFIG_MSI_LAPTOP=m [20:02] root@newcaprica:/etc/X11# [20:02] redtricycle kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:02] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] So, i dont have it, right? [20:02] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [20:02] It says CONFIG_PCI_MSI is not set [20:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] well you can try recompiling your kernel then [20:02] it'll be in the pci section [20:03] Soul_keeper && redtricycle: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11925 [20:03] grazymax (n=grazymax@host153-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:03] if you are going to go through the trouble of building a kernel you might as well go through menuconfig with a fine tooth comb and trim the fat and make a lean meen kernel booting machine [20:03] grazymax_ (n=grazymax@host197-155-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:04] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:05] Kool-Aid (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [20:05] maybe amd made msi a requirement in 9.3 ... wasn't in 8.12 as I remember [20:05] okay, a little nervous about compiling a kernel [20:05] I'll be doing some reading, I guess.. [20:05] redtricycle: once sec..again ;) [20:06] it's easy, just be carefull with your lilo config file, be sure to have the old image in there as backup [20:06] Okay, so, will Slackware 12.3 have this enabled? [20:06] Is there a way to use w3m with urxvt? [20:06] yeah? download it :P [20:07] someone just told me that minamilistic interior design is so 5years ago [20:07] redtricycle: slackware-current already uses it according to that alienBOB paste [20:07] it gives " Can't find termcap entry rxvt-unicode" when I try to run it [20:07] [20:07] wtf :< [20:07] redtricycle: here http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11928 [20:07] ahh... [20:07] redtricycle: if you have plenty of disk space, setup a second slackware install (copy your existing and edit fstab) then you can experament and test your abilities without harming your main install, and when kernel building or other methods of customization are mature you can migrate them to your main install :D [20:07] that's a lot of effort ... [20:08] if you follow that little guide i made it will keep the stock kernel and modules intact [20:08] you will be able to chose either [20:08] thats how i mastered kernel building for my particular needs, along with a few other tweaks & tricks i do to my slackware installs [20:08] Pig_Pen: well, this is a media pc, so I'm just SSHing into it to do stuff...I can always reinstall slackware, I suppose o_o [20:08] dude. [20:08] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:09] you're not doing to trash the system. [20:09] going* [20:09] okay, i'll follow the guide [20:09] it will be fun [20:09] ouch!, find a way to test things to prove they work before doing it to an actual working system [20:09] you'll never learn unless you take the risk :) [20:10] or... take your seatbelt off and mash the peddle to the metal [20:11] jump without a chute!!!! [20:11] or a backpack full of silverware [20:11] just dont get the backpack with the anvil in it [20:11] well, I already h ave the kernel source in there [20:11] so i dont have to download it again, right? [20:12] I'll just go right into /usr/src/linux-myversion/ [20:12] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] redtricycle: just cp it [20:12] yeah [20:12] cd /usr/src && cp -R stock_sources stock_source-CUST [20:13] then cd stock_sources-CUST && zcat /proc/config.gz > .config [20:13] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: "Leaving." [20:13] this way all the stock stuff is untouched [20:13] nod, copying right now [20:14] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] I dont have a config.gz, I have a .config [20:14] so do I simple "cat .config"? 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[20:21] should I go run errands? [20:21] 15-20 minutes [20:22] pirving: nope, reconnect [20:22] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] pirving: no, you should reboot your computer [20:22] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-172-42.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] Okay, this isn't so hard, making a new kernel [20:22] I can always poitn lilo to a different place [20:23] redtricycle: it's trivial, yes [20:23] redtricycle: you just add multiple config blocks [20:23] redtricycle: (once you've done it at least once) [20:23] stock slackware 12.2 has this graphical login now [20:23] is that lilo, or are they using grub? [20:23] lilo [20:23] redtricycle: I noticed. It's lilo. [20:24] redtricycle: I did a stock 12.2 install on a server at work [20:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.78) joined ##slackware. [20:28] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [20:30] j0z (n=JESUS@189-11-54-52.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:32] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.27.78) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:32] grub is too volatile to be stable, it is a good bootloader but needs to be mature & stableized [20:32] I prefer lilo too [20:33] Rich^ (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [20:34] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:37] the advantage of lilo is it wont write to the MBR without lilo.conf being correct, the advantage of grub is you can edit its config from the boot prompt [20:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [20:39] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-245-252.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:39] now if lilo can build that feature in so you can edit lilo.conf from the boot prompt :D [20:39] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [20:40] or at least make a temporary lilo.conf for lilo to follow so you can get a system booted, then fix the mistake and run lilo afterwards [20:43] uu [20:43] you can pass whatever you want to lilo [20:43] parameters, but root=/dev/#### too? [20:43] yeah [20:44] sure [20:44] so lilo has those features all along in a roundabout way? [20:44] the install disc even tells you so [20:44] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) left irc: "leaving" [20:44] well in your round about way yeah lol [20:45] must read man lilo - Captain Kirk [20:45] hba (n=hba@189.188.143.35) joined ##slackware. [20:45] that is more scottys job [20:45] kirk just bangs the babes [20:45] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:46] i used to do that, then i got married and all that changed [20:46] getting dark here, the sun just dipped below the horizion [20:47] grocery store clerk "would you like a bag with that?" me "no thanks, got one at home" [20:47] lol [20:50] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] edman007|work (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: "C-x C-c" [20:51] someone is playing Lynard Skynard on the pirate radio frequency [20:52] weak station, just slightly off the dial, they need a better transmitter [20:53] i typed "convert map.gif -quality 75 map.jpg" and the jpg is twice as large as the gidf [20:55] if i was an evil genius with LOTS of money i would build a shortwave transmitter so big and powerful that it would have to be hauled to location with a truck, then slam the shortwave band with a megawatt with perfect studio quality modulation with a mix of music and political satire bashing the powers that be [20:56] Nikkii (i=vv@41.236.13.158) joined ##slackware. [20:56] fool for the city [20:57] Nick change: Rich^ -> Richlv [20:58] lol! now there are mexicans (spanish speaking) people on two-way radio covering up the pirates [20:59] foreigner [21:02] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-42.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] wildthing [21:04] vinegaroon (n=sam@119.224.26.179) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] vinegaroon (n=sam@119.224.26.179) joined ##slackware. [21:04] giuppy (n=giuppy@host78-173-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:12] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-42.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:12] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) joined ##slackware. [21:15] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [21:16] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-246.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:19] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:21] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:23] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:26] OKay, I'm stuck building a new kernel [21:26] at this point: cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-version-CUST [21:26] stuck? [21:26] that didnt get created... [21:26] no bzImage? [21:26] oh, it's a file [21:26] o_o [21:26] bzImage is a bootable kernel image, thats what i use [21:28] Lucy you've got some spainin' to do [21:28] ah... [21:28] okay, I foudn it [21:28] but I have a question [21:29] if I delete the System.map [21:29] and config symlinks [21:29] how does lilo know how to use that kernel? [21:29] what's the point of the symlink? [21:29] b/c lilo only looks at vmlinuz [21:29] vald0r (n=vald0r@stjhnf0131w-142162008187.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:29] dude. [21:29] you can change lilo.conf [21:29] nod, but my question is [21:29] vald0r (n=vald0r@stjhnf0131w-142162008187.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] i dont even see the symlink used anywhere [21:29] cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot && cp /usr/src/linux/.config /boot [21:29] and the System.map file will not stop the kernel from working if it is not there [21:29] oh, okay [21:30] no? i always copied System.map [21:30] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:31] redtricycle: look at the commands i posted and do an ls -alh /boot [21:31] System.map is just a symlink [21:31] same with config [21:31] redtricycle, lilo dosent understand the filesystem at all during boot [21:31] but it will follow symlinks when installing [21:32] was something built as a module instead of imbedded in the kernel thus requiring an initrd??? [21:32] Okay, sweet...time to try this out [21:32] what? [21:32] i am so lost this is not difficult [21:32] Pig_Pen: I found the bzImage [21:32] it was there [21:32] vald0r (n=vald0r@stjhnf0131w-142162008187.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:33] restarting! let's see how my new kernel works,.. [21:33] thats what i use, i just copy over the bzImage, works just as good as a vmlinuz [21:33] sigh [21:33] okay, cool [21:33] it found the image [21:33] it's loading the other kernel now [21:33] yay! [21:34] walk away nullboy, walk away. ;) [21:35] lol [21:35] Nikkii (i=vv@41.236.13.158) left irc: No route to host [21:35] sorry nullboy, got tripped up but it got resolved o_o [21:36] don't be sorry! [21:37] Well...the actual goal was getting s-video out [21:37] that's one less thing to worry about now, at least [21:43] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:45] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [21:48] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:51] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [21:51] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [21:55] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [22:01] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [22:03] great, some kid is riding a dirt bike in circles in the street outside my place [22:03] so much for concentration [22:04] lmao [22:05] A well-timed stick in his spokes ought to remedy that. [22:05] paintball him [22:05] Or that. 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KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [22:18] woman with a penchant for evil, orbital brain lazors, henchmen with bad teeth [22:20] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [22:22] know of a pastebin that allows you to attach screen shot images? [22:23] imagebin? [22:23] hba (n=hba@189.188.143.35) left irc: "leaving" [22:23] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.91.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:23] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [22:24] that allows you to post images, but do you get to post text with it? [22:24] drop.io [22:25] imgebin.org [22:25] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-208-19.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:25] http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/ [22:25] laters, sleepytime [22:26] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:26] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:29] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:33] jpsnl3 (n=jp01@h240146.upc-h.chello.nl) left irc: "rebooting to other OS most likely..." [22:34] http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/5041/ [22:35] Tagami (n=Winter@75-121-149-133.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:35] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] Heya,folks..How's everyone? [22:35] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [22:36] arclinux has broken for me for the last time BACK TO SLACKWARE! :] [22:36] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [22:37] What broke for ya,snL20? [22:37] MLanden: wodim started making coasters [22:37] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89-180-42-121.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] snL20: heh i just went back to slack as well :) [22:37] triple OOCH...that sux [22:37] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [22:39] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Which mediums,snL20? dvd-r's,+r's? or all of 'em? [22:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] MLanden: dvd-r's 4.4 gb [22:42] MLanden: prolly all of them, growisofs also fails [22:42] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-51.bard.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:42] DSL seems to run a little faster than slackware on one of my low memory computers [22:42] sorry to hear of your experience,snL20..hopefully,slackware will make ya a happy camper..:D [22:43] MLanden: yeah, I just need to copy my email folder ;) [22:44] What's the specs of your low memory computer,pi31415? [22:44] somewhere around 40mb ram, it had a designed for windows 98 sticker [22:45] thunderbird,snL20? [22:45] hard drive dired, replaced it with a CF card [22:45] dired=died [22:46] MLanden: sylpheed [22:47] pi31415,ya ever tried DeLi Linux? [22:47] sounds like its made of smoked ham [22:48] lol,acidchild [22:49] mlanden: no [22:49] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-90-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:49] just 'nother lightweight distro like DSL and Feather [22:50] http://d3f8w3yx9w99q2.cloudfront.net/872/espressione-caf-retr-espresso-machines/espressione-caf-retr-espresso-machines_3_0.jpg [22:50] isn't that such a wicked coffee machine colour [22:50] haha [22:50] I'm having trouble finding the Tools menu in Picasa [22:50] that is a cute espresso machine [22:50] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [22:50] comes in black or silver as well [22:51] i think the orange is wicked though [22:51] black looks good, but it looks abit plastic [22:51] oh, Picasa has a standalone program as well as the web interface [22:52] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [22:54] hey, I have no /dev/dsp [22:54] I have sound though [22:54] festival wants to use it [22:54] any ideas? [22:54] did you run alsaconf? [22:54] vinegaroon (n=sam@119.224.26.179) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:54] and if you do 'ls -la /dev/dsp' [22:54] it shows nothing? [22:55] sadsfae (n=will@funcamp.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [22:56] heh, picasa for Linux uses wine [22:57] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75860.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:57] ok alsaconf broke my sound [22:57] sadsfae (n=will@funcamp.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] Traveler (n=traveler@89.240.33.150) joined ##slackware. [23:01] ok got sound back same problem [23:01] hi guys, i got a big problem with my network. Is anyone available to help? [23:02] no, only medium-sized problems [23:02] just ask, and remember we arent paid so we can not talk to you any time [23:02] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:03] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [23:03] k, my network was fine a few days ago now it has slowed down like you wouldn't believe [23:04] even when i try and ping from command line it takes about 5-10 seconds for the first result to display on screen [23:04] what type of network is it? [23:04] bad cable? [23:04] what package do I need to install to enable msn in pidgin ? [23:04] ethernet [23:04] snL20: pidgin supports msn [23:05] nullboy: it says something about ssl [23:05] i don't think it's the cable as the return time for the pings is the same as any other machine i use [23:05] Traveler: is your switch a router too? [23:05] yes [23:05] nullboy: I tried upgrading openssl but still it complains about ssl not being available any idea ? [23:06] snL20: just use the slackware packages [23:06] if you need a newer version use the stock build scripts [23:06] nullboy: I am [23:06] snL20: it works fine for me here [23:06] nullboy: ok... [23:06] Traveler: are you running dd-wrt or openwrt on that router? [23:07] brb [23:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [23:07] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [23:07] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [23:08] not running any wrt [23:08] other machines using the same router and they have no problems [23:09] vinegaroon (n=sam@119.224.26.179) joined ##slackware. [23:09] we're going to need more information to help you [23:09] what do you need? [23:09] damn, I just realized that I've been logged onto this channel and freenode since 12pm yesterday and didn't even realize it [23:10] yeah that was a little redundant... I'm terminally hungover [23:10] Traveler: what has changed since the last time it worked? what version of slackware are you using? what network card and driver are you using? [23:12] how many systems are having problems and how many are not having problems? are there multiple switches chained together? [23:14] it's a netgear NIC, not sure of the driver or how to find out, slackware 12.0 [23:15] only slackware machine is affected, 3 other machines use the same router and all is ok with them, the router is not linked to any other router [23:15] one thing has changed, i bought a new router, it crapped out, so i put the old one back [23:15] Traveler, so what changed to make this slow down happen? [23:15] i don't know :( [23:16] i'd start considering a possible failing network card if you really are certain that you did nothing in software land [23:16] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [23:16] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] oh dear, i shall use a knoppix cd. If it works ok with that then the card is fine right? [23:18] DRweasel (n=DRweasel@c-76-24-84-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] if your ready for wreslemania tomorrow than give me a hell yeah [23:18] what does ethtool tell you about your interface? [23:18] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [23:19] Traveler: if the card works fine under a liveCD you can start remembering what you did to the system [23:19] if your ready for wreslemania tomorrow than give me a hell yeah [23:19] pidgin on slackware-12.0 is complaining about invalid certificate chain, do I have to upgrade to slackware-12.2 ? [23:20] snL20: any chance that being for MSN? [23:20] if your ready for wreslemania tomorrow than give me a hell yeah [23:20] BP{k}: yeah msn [23:20] snL20: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog [23:20] snL20: what version of pidgin is that you have? [23:21] DRweasel: stop spamming or get out, no one cares [23:21] nullboy: the one in patches/packages for 12.0 :] [23:21] snL20: what version? [23:21] nullboy: 2.5.2 [23:22] well there you have it [23:22] nullboy: there is a newers slackbuild for it ? [23:22] snL20: i told you earlier already what to do. use the stock build script to build the newest version [23:23] or install msn-pecan *cough* [23:24] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:25] I SAID IF ANYONE IS READY FOR WRESLEMANIA TOMORROW THAN GIVE ME A HELL YEAH [23:25] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [23:25] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@@c-76-24-84-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net' by phrag!n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag [23:26] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@c-76-24-84-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net' by phrag!n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag [23:26] DRweasel kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [23:26] Action: BP{k} gives phrag a "hell yeah" ;) [23:26] Action: nullboy hands phrag beer [23:26] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag [23:26] go on then, i'll have one more =) [23:26] lol [23:27] Action: MLanden \m/ 's towards phrag and utters "Oh yeah,bruva!!" [23:27] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [23:29] snL20: i don't have a clean vm for 12.0, otherwise i'd build the package for you [23:30] nullboy: I just grabbed the source, compiling now :] [23:32] pirving (i=1000@cpe-72-224-168-61.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:34] oxymoron (i=47f573ba@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2312ad3e7e4cb35c) joined ##slackware. [23:34] oxymoron (i=47f573ba@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2312ad3e7e4cb35c) left ##slackware. [23:36] nullboy, i think you're right about the network card [23:37] Traveler: that makes it easy for you to fix yay [23:38] Traveler: btw, is the router/switch hooked up to a battery backup or UPS? [23:38] yeah i think i've got a spare somewhere [23:38] no just straight into the mains [23:38] why? [23:38] eek [23:38] what about the PC? [23:38] same [23:38] dang man [23:38] that's sketchy [23:38] am i at risk of blowing my shit up? [23:38] yes [23:39] because of the NIC? [23:39] not because of the nic, because of dirty power [23:39] the nic could have been killed from dirty power [23:39] i've seen switches blow only one or a few ports and then i had the nics on the other end go too [23:40] not saying that the switch is blown but a power issue on either end could hurt the nic [23:40] ya, as i said, i replaced the router for like a day so maybe when i plugged it back in something went awry [23:40] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:41] Traveler: try to do a swap out test for each cable between the slackware box and the switch, maybe a cable is bad like tank-man suggested [23:41] yeah i'll try that now [23:41] but at this point i'd focus on cables and nics [23:41] thanks for helping me [23:41] np [23:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:43] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] Okay, I might bite the bullet and buy an nVidia card instead -- can anyone confirm that nvidia drivers are a piece of cake for tv-out (s-video)? [23:47] i can't speak for svid but i've made my laptop do dual monitor mode easily [23:48] xrandr is the key [23:49] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-51.bard.edu) joined ##slackware. [23:49] redtricycle: it is, the driver's config program allows you to easily do that [23:49] redtricycle: but i have an i965 card here and works very good using just xrandr [23:50] hmm, with ATI, you mean? [23:50] or with nvidia? [23:50] xrandr? [23:50] me_ (n=me_@89.240.52.182) joined ##slackware. [23:50] an intel card [23:50] it's a notebook [23:51] ah.. [23:55] me_ (n=me_@89.240.52.182) left irc: "me_em" [23:56] T4 looks amazing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcg5t0mT8V4 [23:56] gbonvehim: the only bad thing about i965 and its driver is that the win derivative is light years ahead :/ [23:57] aperturefever: win derivative? [23:57] it works fine for everyday tasks, i even run a vm to do some coding on windows just fine [23:58] I think my X300 is just way too old [23:58] *sad* [00:00] --- Sun Apr 5 2009