[00:00] boydrice (n=mike@c-24-19-121-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:04] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:04] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-76-235-34-240.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:12] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:13] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.214.10) joined ##slackware. [00:15] x-ip_ (n=sakura@host240.200-45-180.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [00:18] hiatus (n=hiatus@194.sub-97-246-247.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [00:19] diego43589 (n=diego@201.110.207.21) left irc: "Saliendo" [00:20] So does slackware really offer any noticable performance improvements these days? [00:20] improvement over? [00:21] Performance in desktop use, as in speed [00:21] improvement over? [00:21] hiatus: over? [00:22] Oh, distros like ubuntu and fedora [00:22] hiatus: slackware is generally snappier, lighter, yes. [00:22] Raa (n=oli@86.127.238.96) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:24] I have been using ubuntu minimal and was lazy so I installed slackware with xfce on my 1000heb. Didn't really notice a huge difference [00:25] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:25] user51 (n=kid@117.200.51.72) joined ##slackware. [00:25] hiatus: I said generally, yes. [00:25] m0o [00:25] Ah [00:26] hiatus, it's just about the software you're running. Ubuntu can be faster than slackware if you try. [00:26] someone help me with NAT in vmware , my host os is slackware and guest is win xp , how to connect to instrenet to xp throw NAT ? [00:26] zoltarx (n=chatzill@chello089078211117.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:26] user51: I prefer virtualbox, for that purpose. [00:26] The distro is like the interior of a car. It makes things more (or less) enjoyable, but what counts is the engine [00:26] user51, id'd try the vmware docs [00:27] i am sure they have a whole section dealing with networking [00:27] ok , man vmware ? [00:27] BLEH! vmware sucks [00:28] I use virtualbox for that as well [00:28] woooh , its working [00:28] yay !!! [00:28] there's man vmware? :) [00:29] i am sure they have html-based docs that are prolly far easier to read than a linear manpage [00:29] i ve done POSTROUTING in iptables and switched to NAT interface and its working :) [00:30] yesterday itwas't working with same settings [00:31] Magic [00:31] sunspots [00:31] Magic sunspots [00:31] lol [00:32] user51: again, vbox doesn't need such trickery [00:32] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:32] hows performance in vbox compared to vmware ? [00:33] thumbs, ? [00:33] user51: equivalent. [00:33] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:33] hrm ,vbox works in fbsd ? [00:34] i think there is no pkg available for bsd :-s /me googling [00:34] user51: oh, I thought you were using slackware? [00:34] 00:26 < user51> someone help me with NAT in vmware , my host os is slackware and guest is win xp , how to connect to instrenet to xp throw NAT ? [00:34] yea , i m , slackware 13 [00:35] user51: so why do you need it for BSD? [00:35] jus asking about fbsd , gonna switch to fbsd now :p [00:35] ok. [00:35] i ve heard that slackware and fbsd are quite similar [00:35] diogenes323 (n=diogenes@adsl-99-141-121-246.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] freeBSD is quite pleasant, yes. [00:38] I would say similar [00:38] user51 (n=kid@117.200.51.72) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] Wouldnt* [00:39] so i believe firefox is set as my default browser, however if i were to click a link from a chat in pidgin for example, it would open up in seamonkey. where can change this behavior? [00:40] there is something that can convert wav to mp3 on Slackware, right? [00:40] dchmelik: yes, lame (lameenc) [00:40] fbsd is more akin to debian but they are still vastly different. The bsd mentality is paranoia when it comes to default security. They also avoid gpl code for some reason [00:41] i thought lame was not included... but I may recall using it without installing it [00:41] dchmelik: it's probably on slackbuilds.org, then [00:41] i do not see it in the sbopkg audio lsit [00:41] list* [00:41] hiatus (n=hiatus@194.sub-97-246-247.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:42] oh, it is called twolame now [00:42] dchmelik: [00:42] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=lame&sv=13.0 [00:42] i think that is just a library, not the actual program [00:42] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:44] twolame is an mp2 lib can replace toolame [00:45] twolame, if built with that sound-config thinggives a cli interface too dchmelik [00:45] well, i was asking about mp3s not mp2s [00:45] very similar interface to cli lame [00:46] i was exmplaining what twolame was since you seemed to be a little confused about it [00:46] i just saw it in the slackbuilds search results for lame and had read it [00:46] twolame != lame [00:47] you might have heard of toolame? twolame is toolame on steroids [00:49] how much work is there to create a multilib system? [00:50] ok. i checked the /var/log/setup/setup.htmlview file. firefox is set to a higher preference than seamonkey. i made sure the preference is set via pkgtool -> setup -> htmlview. links still open in seamonkey instead of firefox. can i get some help? [00:52] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:53] cat /usr/bin/htmlview [00:53] show me that output, please. [00:53] crashdata: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [00:53] bah [00:53] says seamonkey [00:53] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:54] sitwon, seems like a lot of work..just wanted to know anyone who converted their system to multilib [00:54] change it to firefox and you're set. [00:54] how much work did they put into it? [00:55] is there a way to apply the setting without restarting x? [00:56] that should be set the minute you change that file i told you [00:56] bash-3.1# cat /usr/bin/htmlview [00:56] #!/bin/sh [00:56] exec firefox "$@" [00:56] yah [00:57] yeah but it still opening seamonkey [00:57] in what? [00:57] anyone? what are the chances of me missing something up? [00:57] ok so i sent myself a link in pidgin [00:57] as a test [00:57] i click on it, opens in seamonkey [00:58] doesn't pidgin have a default browser option? [00:58] pidgin:tools->preferences->browser [00:59] i see [00:59] thank you for your patience in answering my question [01:00] no problem [01:00] crashdata: extremely good [01:00] that's why keeping notes is good [01:00] also reading the slackbook [01:01] i'm reading the instruction [01:01] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [01:01] just remember slackware doesn't hold your hand [01:01] nor does ##slackware [01:02] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [01:02] happy b-day isaac newton, btw [01:02] no i understand, and thats fine with me, just wondering how easy it was for the others........ [01:02] crashdata: it looks pretty easy to me [01:02] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [01:02] "looks" and have done it is diff. [01:02] I haven't actually done it yet, but I haven't heard anyone complain that it was difficult or confusing either [01:03] ok - since I just logged in, what are we talking about? [01:03] could do it now, if you want. I have Slack64 in a VM somewhere [01:03] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [01:03] k [01:04] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [01:05] yah i thnk i feel comfortable enough to try this.. [01:05] doesnt actually look that bad... [01:08] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:11] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:15] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.35) joined ##slackware. [01:18] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.61.121) joined ##slackware. [01:18] Wescotte_ (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. 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[01:41] I was in KDE and I fired up Amarok to play an mp3. My whole screen corrupted with green, purple, yellow, and red squares that were about 1cm^2 all over. I powered off and the unit is now dead. [01:41] the video card toasted [01:43] mmm wtf antiwire [01:43] yeah that's what I said [01:43] Just to be sure, I swapped out everything with known good stuff; ram, internal wifi card, battery, DVD module, power cord. [01:44] Damn videocard DIED. [01:44] I even tried a different keyboard module [01:46] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [01:46] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:47] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [01:50] wow, I've seen corrupted screens from buggy drivers, but I've never seen a video card DIE because some started a MP3 player... [01:50] That wasn't the cause... [01:51] Chipsets fail [01:52] so you're saying it was just a coincidence... but how do you know the Amarok developers aren't out to get you? [01:52] How do I know it wasn't you? [01:52] "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me" (or something like that) [01:53] sitwon, how fast is your net [01:53] 15M/5M [01:53] antiwire: I plead the 5th [01:53] ah [01:54] jeev: pour qoi? [01:54] who gets fios and gets the lowest plan [01:54] ;D [01:54] i guess you're not addicted [01:55] jeev: it wasn't the lowest plan when I got it. And I'm not paying for it so I'm not really complaining [01:55] oh [01:55] cool [01:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [01:57] the 50M/20M plan would be great... but I'm not going to shell out $140/mo of my own money for it [01:57] hiatus (n=hiatus@194.sub-97-246-247.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:37] alisonken1noc: lol :P [03:37] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Excess Flood [03:37] SiegeX (i=219@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Excess Flood [03:38] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427755.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [03:38] SiegeX (i=219@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [03:38] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [03:39] Agiofws (n=nAgiofws@athedsl-427755.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:39] SiegeX (i=219@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Excess Flood [03:39] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-102-94.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] Agiofws (n=nAgiofws@athedsl-427755.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [03:40] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [03:40] SiegeX (i=219@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [03:41] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Agiofws (n=nnAgiofw@athedsl-427755.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Agiofws (n=nnAgiofw@athedsl-427755.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [03:41] NetcopSecurity (n=datalock@189.35.131.31) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:42] Agiofws (n=nnnAgiof@athedsl-427755.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:43] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-162.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:44] anyone have any idea at all why a fairpoint communications connection is 'testing' at "3mB/s" and only ever can seem to get 340-350kB/s at anywhere than a 'dsl test site'? [03:44] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.252) joined ##slackware. [03:47] is 'testing' in their marketing materials/ [03:47] learn to read SLA's when you sign them/ [03:47] you get what you pay for at the end of the day [03:47] ? [03:49] sorry that was a bit harsh [03:49] basically they're selling DSL to people who live too far from the DSLAM [03:50] and they're using dodgy SLA's that your avg joe won't read to hide the fact that their garunteed rates are going to be much lower than their advertised rates [03:50] ok so i want a discount and im going to deal with their customer service; since the 'test sites' are showing the right download rate (even though it isn't accurate) i need some data to give them :/ [03:50] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:50] acidchild: hows life up there? [03:50] wait, their test sites or 3rd party test sites? [03:51] and if they're like every other ISP you probably won't get a discount cause you signed an SLA saying that 256kbps or some such was all right with you [03:51] daidoji, 3rd party, apparently [03:51] its showing 3mb/s download rates but i can't reproduce this anywhere but a test site. [03:52] well if the 3rd party test sites are showing 3Mbps then you're golden [03:52] hrm, something's not right :/ [03:53] I must not be understanding your issue [03:53] bbl [03:53] all right well I'm going to sleep [03:53] good luck with your issue [03:53] thx [03:56] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.234) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:58] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [03:58] daidoji (n=daidoji7@adsl-99-30-229-95.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "now is the time for sleep!" [04:01] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) joined ##slackware. [04:01] he [04:02] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.73.54) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:04] i am not able to dowload packages using sbopkg [04:04] i don't know why?? [04:04] any help , ?? [04:04] it's too time consuming to install pkgs without sbopkg [04:04] :( [04:04] here is what it shows me [04:04] http://imagebin.org/78198 [04:04] ? [04:07] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [04:07] :( [04:08] it show the same message for netbean too [04:11] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-96-11.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [04:13] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:15] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:16] techwonder (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [04:20] bohunm (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:21] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-204-157.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [04:24] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:26] bohunm (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:26] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:53] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:53] secondary is esad [04:53] Aaaaand.. i'm back at work for another year [04:54] what's the term for mixed-up letters? at any rate: esad ->sade, as in marquis deSade [04:54] appropriate I think [04:54] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [04:54] Zordrak: dude... please just put the bullet in my head now. [04:54] sade? [04:54] Likewise Zordrak, just turned in my permit today. I ain't going climbing anywhere for the next 6 months, just work. [04:54] eat shit and die, die and shit eat? [04:54] agentc0re: as in AD is a sadist [04:54] agentc0re: since you're there... [04:55] agentc0re: do yau have a build for 3? [04:55] it likes to inflict pain and suffering on it's admins [04:55] alisonken1noc: funny you mention that, i read an article while looking for an error code about how AD will take your sanity from you... ya, i'm way past that. [04:56] Zordrak: no, been busy fixing broken AD and now broken everything. [04:56] cool.. so long as i know [04:56] Zordrak: when i get in to work, which it looks like i am going to have to go in to put in an exchange CD, i can give you the original (revised) bacula script i submitted to SBo. [04:57] agentc0re: cool ta.. will see what i can do with it [04:57] i just need to change a few parameters so they can be passed at build time and separate the build script into two, server and client. [04:57] that's all robby wanted me to do.. [04:58] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-216-119.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [04:58] hi all [04:59] heeeeelo [05:00] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:01] any idea why cod4 prints an error "No IWD files found in /main" ? [05:02] wine v 1.3 [05:05] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:05] did you try joining #winehq ? [05:07] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.46.245) joined ##slackware. [05:09] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-204-157.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [05:10] yep [05:11] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-204-157.telecable.es) left irc: Client Quit [05:11] they are silent as ...i don't know they are just silent [05:11] no one may known [05:12] slackware have pretty good features [05:12] Nick change: _slax0r_ -> slax0r_ [05:13] Tabmow (i=terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: "reboot" [05:14] i like slackware [05:14] i think i will make slackware t-shirt [05:14] any important slackware topic ? [05:15] Nick change: slax0r_ -> _slax0r_ [05:15] /topic [05:18] mihaylov: Grab slack stickers [05:18] Put them on your rigs/laptops [05:18] mihaylov: there is a slackware store with t-shirts already [05:19] nmoura (n=nmoura@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [05:19] Yes, I have one [05:19] It pwns ass. [05:20] heh [05:20] nice [05:20] i like my laptop this way [05:20] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4A4BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [05:20] i prefer i t-shirt [05:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [05:24] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-216-119.btc-net.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:24] MoZes (n=mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:24] I prefer embroidered golf shirts, but they don't have them [05:26] im still quite annoyed i cant get the origial slackware tshirt unless i have it shipped from the US [05:26] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.32.30) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:27] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [05:28] root (n=root@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:28] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:28] root kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [05:29] K3yvn (i=0@ip70-181-115-119.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:30] Hey all. How do I upgrade my kernel from non-smp to smp? I'm running slackware 13 [05:30] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.14.20) joined ##slackware. [05:30] It appears I need to do so in order to get ndiswrapper to work [05:30] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) joined ##slackware. [05:30] ??? [05:31] hye, what should i install to run window inside SW?? [05:31] installpkg kernel-smp package? [05:31] sahilsk: I think you're looking for wine [05:31] alisonken1noc: I'll try that right now [05:31] sahilsk: wine is a start [05:31] i need to run photoshp [05:31] or try learning gimp? [05:31] naaah [05:31] i don't want to restart [05:31] K3yvn: 32 or 64? [05:31] Zordrak: 32 [05:32] alisonken1home, wine can't run photoshop [05:32] i guess [05:32] well, learn gimp or learn how wine works - about the same either way [05:33] i thouhg cs3 worked [05:33] did you look at codeweavers? [05:33] not sure boutn cs4 tho [05:33] they provided a commercial version of wine [05:33] supposed to support more windows stuff than wine [05:33] toast10101, you sur that cs3 work? [05:33] sahilsk: You could run windows in a VMWare/VirtualBox but Photoshop would probably be slow [05:33] K3yvn: just change your symlinks in /boot and re-run lilo [05:34] sahilsk: Better yet, dual boot [05:34] i think cs3 works [05:34] Zordrak: I don't know how to do that... I'll try doing the upgrade with slackpkg... [05:34] ok , then let me try with portable cs3 [05:35] meh according to wineapdb it works but it works slowly [05:35] Zordrak: Actually, it appears both are installed (when I look with slackpkg)... How exactly can I select one over the other with lilo? [05:36] cs4 got gold with wine 1.1.24 [05:36] And is it really necessary to do anything with symlinks? Thats over my head at the moment [05:36] K3yvn: just change your symlinks in /boot [05:36] toastytoast, gold? [05:36] its tnhe most inanely simple act you could possible do [05:36] and rerun lilo [05:36] but it doesn't isntall with wine apparently so it will run sjut you won't be abel to install it [05:37] Zordrak: Ok I see the kernel I want in /boot.. what do I do? (sorry!) [05:37] google "symlink" [05:37] i would jsut learn gimp [05:37] or dual boot [05:37] add another section in /etc/lilo.conf to allow selecting which one you want [05:37] or virtual machine [05:38] James____ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:38] Zordrak: I know what a symlink is, and it seems the items in /boot are such, but I do not know what to change [05:39] change vmlinuz (symlink) to point to the right vmlinuz-smp-generic-smp-2.6.... filre [05:39] hi i install slack on a new dell netbook and get error VFS: Cannot open root device "801" or unknown-block(8,1) [05:39] like it cant find the drive but it installed fine? [05:39] Zordrak: ahh okay perfect thanks [05:45] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:46] oh wow [05:46] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220511560480&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=L*S%3F&GUID=dce575001250a026539276f2fdbf9a4d&itemid=220511560480&ff4=263602_263622#ht_599wt_912 [05:46] that si the exact same type of keyboard i have [05:46] and he is selling it for $100 [05:48] so apparently i'm using a $100 keyboard right now [05:50] bender (n=bender@93.185.183.55) joined ##slackware. [05:50] hi all [05:54] 36 bit interesting [05:54] apparently digital amde one [05:57] they ahd paper plans for it and then amde a single comptur [05:57] from what wiki says anyway [05:59] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4A4BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.1/20091218133539]" [06:03] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:03] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-026-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:04] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:16] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-136-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [06:16] hi there [06:16] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [06:18] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:19] i was trying to install wine [06:19] netbeans [06:19] skype [06:19] but in all case [06:19] sbopkg [06:20] is responding by same message [06:20]   [06:20]  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++  [06:20] Channel flood from sahilsk -- kicking [06:20]   [06:20]  [06:20]  < Back >  [06:20] sahilsk kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [06:20] lol [06:20] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) joined ##slackware. [06:20] ooops sorry [06:20] sorry, [06:20] sahilsk: use pastebin.ca or equivalent [06:20] my msitak [06:20] /usr/sbin/sbopkg: line 2578: wine.info.build: No such file or directory [06:20] youve done it at least twice. the least you can do is learn from your mistakes [06:21] lol [06:21] :P [06:21] these are few lines.. [06:22] so, how can i get rid of this message [06:22] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:23] /usr/sbin/sbopkg: line 2578: wine.info.build: No such file or directory [06:25] where am i doing wrong? 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[06:49] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:50] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:55] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:57] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [06:58] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [06:58] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) joined ##slackware. [07:02] i am not able to lauch any of the kde package [07:02] nor i am able to use KDE environmnt [07:02] everytime i boot in to kde sessio, it throw me out [07:02] but things are quite good with the root account [07:02] ?? [07:02] any help [07:02] when i try to lauch kde [07:02] using terminal it say [07:03] QGtkStyle cannot be used together with the GTK_Qt engine. [07:03] Segmentation fault [07:03] " [07:03] and when i SU to root [07:03] it says "No protocol specified [07:03] kuser: cannot connect to X server :0.0 [07:03] " [07:04] any help would be great . :D [07:04] ... :( [07:06] > [07:06] ? [07:09] sahilsk, sounds like you have messed with some kde setting's i cannot be specific [07:09] yes [07:09] i just , change the [07:09] but to try a quick fix you can move ~/.kde to ~/.kde.old [07:09] then restart x [07:09] desktop apppearance [07:09] ok try what i suggested [07:10] move what to what? [07:10] type exactly this as the kde user "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old" [07:10] currently i am in xfce environemnt [07:11] shoul d i type the same in the terminal? [07:11] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) joined ##slackware. [07:11] yes thats fine [07:11] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:12] done [07:12] should i now log out and login again with kde session [07:12] ? [07:12] ok, now i am login out [07:13] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) left irc: "Leaving" [07:16] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [07:19] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:20] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "A little boy who had a big hallucination..." [07:20] sirslacker (i=1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:6f) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:23] hi [07:23] sahilsk is banned from this channel ? why ? any admin would like to answer ? [07:24] no i dont think he is banned [07:24] he just left cause he wanted to restart x [07:25] 12:13:09 -!- sahilsk [n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112] has quit ["Leaving"] [07:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:26] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) joined ##slackware. [07:27] oda, [07:27] no use [07:27] i tried to do that too. [07:27] mv /.kde [07:27] oobe, [07:27] Zordrak, exactly he quit not kicked [07:28] Enzo_01 (n=e01@95-42-134-152.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:28] sahilsk, its meant to be ~/.kde [07:28] but kde is kicking me out,everytime i tried to log in [07:28] i copy the exactly what you written above [07:28] Nick change: Enzo_01 -> e01 [07:28] mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old [07:29] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [07:29] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:29] what does "diff ~/.kde ~/.kde.old" say [07:29] just a sec [07:30] actually that wont help much [07:31] then [07:31] :( [07:31] it has happened before too. [07:31] at that time, i just simply delete the user account and created the new account. [07:32] But this time i don't delete my user account. [07:32] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.76.59) joined ##slackware. [07:32] oobe, it say [07:32] sahilsk, i had another look at your original error message [07:32] diff: /home/sahil/.kde.old: No such file or directory [07:33] try running qtconfig then changing the default style to somthing else [07:33] sahil is my user account name [07:34] sahilsk, that means that you didnt mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old like i said [07:34] i did.. [07:34] or you did it as root which i said not to do [07:34] hi all [07:34] try logging out of your user, then as root do the "cd ~sahil && mv .kde .kde-old" [07:34] ya, i did it as a root [07:35] ok [07:35] anyway qtconfig will fix it without getting rid of your old kde config folder [07:35] which is probably better since you can keep your old settings [07:36] now, it's done. i have done bothe [07:36] qtconfig and [07:36] ok [07:36] mv [07:36] let me logout and login again [07:37] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) left irc: "Leaving" [07:39] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:39] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.39.112) joined ##slackware. [07:39] oobe, i lost all my settings [07:39] :( [07:40] though i manage to boot in kde env.. [07:40] i told you how to avoid that [07:40] and that it would happen [07:40] so,any way to get it back? [07:40] yes [07:40] :D [07:40] tell me [07:40] plz [07:41] ... [07:42] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:42] so , how cna i get my those setting back [07:42] copy and paste this exactly as i type it as user *not* root "mv ~/.kde /tmp && mv ~/.kde.old ~/.kde" then restart you will probably have the same error again to fix this just type qtconfig and change your default desktop stlye to cleanlooks or qt [07:44] k [07:44] as a user. right. [07:44] wait [07:44] yes [07:44] i boot the slackware 13.0 cant detect the harddrive on a brand new Dell netbook when I boot ubunto it says: TOSHIBA MK1655GS bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0 description: ATA Disk but slackware 13.0 can not see the disk [07:45] James____, you will need to select a different kernel when booting the slackware cd [07:45] james___: did you boot from the huge or the generic kernel? [07:45] hugesmp [07:46] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:46] which one should i choose [07:48] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.40.130) joined ##slackware. [07:48] shyko (n=quassel@187.39.220.166) joined ##slackware. [07:48] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:49] <_Strykar> James____, hugesmp. What kernel version does ubuntu have? [07:50] Nick change: Xeliaa -> Xel|sleep [07:50] ##slackware sucks that's all what I have to say :P [07:50] channel of doops [07:50] lol [07:50] i disagree with you. [07:50] :/ [07:51] Action: charOS_ decided to stay away from arguing with fools [07:51] lol [07:51] shyko (n=quassel@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:51] then you may want to stop arguing with yourself [07:51] lol [07:51] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [07:51] XD [07:52] shyko (n=quassel@187.39.220.166) joined ##slackware. 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I am waiting for the wine to finish installing [07:57] so many dlls [07:57] James____, its not the age of the kernel its how its configured [07:57] shyko (n=quassel@187.39.220.166) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:57] besides the kernel in 13 is recent enough [07:58] how come it wont find this toshiba drive [07:58] TOSHIBA MK1655GS [07:58] cause some slackware kernels do not have scsi support [07:59] so which kernel should i use [07:59] huge [08:00] James____, try scsi.s [08:00] spymod (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:03] it is a sata drive [08:03] is it ok? [08:03] yes its most likely fine [08:03] the ubunto kernel that works is 2.6.31-14-generic [08:04] from the slackware 13.0 dvd at boot [08:04] when typing the scsi.s could not find kernel image [08:05] usehuge [08:05] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ukkdlisdnyiftozb) joined ##slackware. [08:05] with huge it dont find it [08:05] wine is taking too much time to install. [08:06] sahilsk: wine is huge. don't blame it [08:06] 14mb [08:06] huge [08:06] ok [08:06] james, pics or it didn't happen [08:07] what must i type precisely at the boot [08:07] James____, try sata.i [08:07] oobe stop giving wrong advice [08:07] when i was installing SW 13 i did show, quanta plus in the kde packages. But now i cna't find it in the application menu [08:07] when i put sata.i it says could not find the image [08:08] must there be a parameter [08:09] well apparently image names have changed since i last looked im sorry [08:09] mancha, it was not deliberate [08:09] huge.s [08:09] ShKoDrAnI (n=ShKoDrAn@80.78.76.19) joined ##slackware. [08:11] sahilsk: quanta doesn't exist yet for kde4 [08:11] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [08:12] All Slackware installation kernels have SCSI support nowadays oobe. The only two differences are SMP support yes/no, and Speakup support yes/no [08:13] pprkut, but i did show it in the dvd. under kdewebdevelop [08:13] toshiba may be one of those similar to some thinkpads that require drive parameters as a boot option [08:13] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:13] alienBOB, that makes sense how ever i cant see why he cant detect his disk if another distro can [08:14] sahilsk: indeed I see that the description of kdewebdevelop says "The kdewebdev package contains Quanta Plus and other..." but that is incorrect for KDE4 [08:14] Axius (n=ade@92.85.28.40) joined ##slackware. [08:14] I'll drop Pat Volkerding a note about this [08:14] so kind [08:14] oobe my apologies. as to your Q, i think it might be bios related? [08:14] so, anyother , Dreamweaver alternative? [08:16] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [08:17] sahilsk: I think they've built a Quanta-style plugin for KDevelop [08:18] Or something like that, I'm vague on the details [08:18] not finished yet [08:18] kdevelop... [08:18] it's actually a set of plugins [08:18] ya, i just run kdev [08:18] sahilsk: but those plugins are not included in Slackware yet [08:18] you'd have to install those by hand [08:19] no SlackBuilds either [08:19] no slackbuilds......... [08:19] at least, afaik [08:19] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:19] hey , suppose i have a binary file of a package say blender, [08:19] can't i run it simply by [08:19] ./blender [08:20] pointing to its executalbe file [08:20] depends... [08:20] it did n't work for blender 2.5 [08:20] how can i run such application? [08:21] it didn't run on the machine on which it was compiled? [08:21] blender.org doesnt provide slackware packages.......... [08:21] but the same package run well in ubuntu [08:21] but slackware isnt ubuntu [08:21] true [08:22] sahilsk: not package - ubuntu uses different packages [08:22] ok, i have a skyp tar.gz file, how can i install it. [08:22] oh you dl'd an ubutu .deb rather than the tarball? [08:22] without using slackbuild [08:23] you cant [08:23] there's a slackbuild of skype hanging around somewhere [08:23] just in general, [08:23] suppose slackbuild doesn't have this package then [08:23] i download the .tar file of the package [08:23] superbofh (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:23] and then what? [08:23] Xumpi (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Connection reset by peer [08:23] skype isn't opensource, the slackbuild just repackages the binary anyways, you can do this yourself [08:24] though i hear (and i admit this rumor [08:24] true - but the slackbuild allows tracking [08:24] s been around too long now) that skype might be going open source [08:24] spymod (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [08:24] naaah , skype never become open-source [08:25] very popular. had it become open-source lots of hacker will try to use there [08:25] callling feature etc... [08:26] Nick change: charOS_ -> charOS [08:26] you seem to dependant on commercial software. photoshop, dreamweaver, skype, i wonder whats next [08:26] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:26] adobe after effect [08:26] adobe fusio [08:26] fusion* [08:26] adobe premier [08:26] autodesk maya [08:26] i think it is the UI they are going to open up, not sure... [08:26] and many more [08:26] ... [08:27] though i love blender a lot. [08:27] it's open-source too [08:27] wine is hugeeeeee,, still installing [08:28] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:28] still, an open UI + closed protocol/network code is better closed UI + closed net code :) [08:28] skype confirmed to open-source the client (at some point). The protocol stays closed source though [08:28] s/better/better than/ [08:28] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-10-5-168.leed.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:28] indeed. And it might finally bring 64bit support [08:29] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-10-5-168.leed.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:29] yep [08:30] lol [08:30] don't worry ,till that, there kde ,might release KYPE [08:32] Axius (n=ade@92.85.28.40) left irc: "Leaving" [08:34] Axtroz (n=axtroz@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [08:35] Hello everyone [08:35] Would someone please explain if there are any benefits of having PulseAudio on a Slackware system? [08:35] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:36] is there any reliable 3d benchmarking software for Linux and Slackware, for that matter? [08:39] i'm wary though, i've been hearding lots of promises about this or that for linux from skype since early 2009 [08:39] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:39] true [08:40] their definition of *real soon now* was quite interesting [08:40] yes, i think they have some poor gopher who blogs linux news and they either feed him bullshit or else he makes things up as he goes along :) [08:40] haha, maybe [08:42] gtludwig: The phoronix test suite includes opengl benchmarking: http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/ [08:42] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] gtludwig: Many individual apps/games also have benchmarking capabilities: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Benchmarking [08:43] Axtroz: no [08:43] adamk_, thanks! =) [08:44] Axtroz: as in, there are no benefits, IMHO [08:44] gtludwig: The links on that page to the anholt timedemo for openarena are bad, but you can download them here if you want: http://people.freedesktop.org/~airlied/scratch/oa_anholt_demo.tar.gz [08:44] gtludwig: The nice thing about OA is that there is a slackbuild for it. [08:44] hehe! [08:44] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:45] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslb-088-070-008-106.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] pprkut: thanks :) [08:48] spymod (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Success [08:48] is it possible to virtualise my windows partition? and if so what would people recommend? 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[09:29] jaskorpe_ (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) got lost in the net-split. [09:29] Nick change: t- -> t [09:29] oobe: klinkstatus [09:29] oobe: http://www.dead-links.com/ [09:30] it finds dead links in -R . [09:30] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-213-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [09:31] some simple script that would take an array ot the URLs of those links you want to test, use curl to test them and parse the http response [09:31] wine..hugeeee [09:32] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [09:32] init[1], is that a site or a program [09:32] oobe: heard of curl ? you can automate it ;) [09:33] as a script [09:33] yes. [09:33] nah to much hassle cause im not hosting it [09:33] ah :P [09:33] cURL can't be used here. [09:33] i suppose [09:34] ok [09:34] oobe: http://linkchecker.sourceforge.net/ [09:34] sahilsk_: there no suppose here , you should provide a valid reason for it. can you ? [09:34] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:34] sahilsk_: if you are not sure or don't know - be silent [09:35] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-213-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Client Quit [09:35] Axius (n=ade@92.85.19.47) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Avalloc (n=_@port-10272.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [09:37] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.158.88) joined ##slackware. [09:37] i think best way to check whether url exist or not it by suing [09:37] Nick change: dErFz -> derfz [09:37] fsockopen function. [09:38] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-213-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [09:39] oobe: theres also a list of 10 other ones http://linkchecker.sourceforge.net/other.html [09:39] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [09:40] 9 actually :p [09:40] thanks sahk0 im checking it out now [09:40] oooh [09:41] im using only 20GB as / cause that's what i have always used and when i installed i selected to install everything but it appears my partition is to small now i only have less than a GB free and somtimes i need to rm -rf /tmp/* to get more space any suggestion on checking what's using up all the space [09:41] ShKoDrAnI (n=ShKoDrAn@80.78.76.19) left irc: [09:41] man du [09:41] treesize or something similar that wraps du [09:42] does anyone here know how much time does wine generally take to install? [09:42] A few seconds? [09:43] it's almost getting an hour. still my installation is in progress [09:43] installation...how? [09:43] sahilsk_: are you talking about compilation ? [09:43] gcc -c, ye [09:43] yes [09:44] oobe the full slack install is about 4.8GB so if you're at 20, we're talking 15.2G of your own stuff [09:44] sahilsk_: it depends of various factors how long it would take. [09:44] s/of/on/ [09:44] compilation != installing [09:45] ok, [09:45] compilation depends entirely on your hardware [09:45] my money is on unpacked source left behind from compilations... [09:45] mancha: why ? [09:46] why what? [09:46] man... getting bore.. i really miss my adobe photoshop. [09:46] mancha: your sentence seems like bet. ;) [09:47] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [09:47] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [09:47] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslb-088-070-006-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] mancha, good to know i wasnt aware of size of fresh install [09:48] sahilsk_: we don't watch things compile ,rather continue with our work once done we install ,btw are you using ,the slackbuilds ? [09:48] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:48] i have adobe photoshop 7 working great with wine [09:48] Axius (n=ade@92.85.19.47) left irc: "Leaving" [09:48] oobe, aside from unpacked source, video and audio are big HD space users [09:48] yeah i have a TB drive for all audio video etc. [09:48] but photoshp don' t have layer comp,grouping layer,multi-layer selection,and many more features [09:48] ./ only has system files [09:48] *photoshop 7 [09:50] you're at 20gb of system files? how long have you been adding stuff to the fresh install? [09:50] for starters what does du -h /tmp return? [09:51] what i dont get is i used gimp for years and thought it was good enough, i finally get photoshop a couple of years ago was i am underwhelmed, i would feel ripped off if i paid adobe cash for it, it sure is not worth several hundred dollars [09:51] i got mine free [09:52] mancha, i installed about 2 months ago i added a few things using slackbuilds etc. [09:52] oobe: what does du -h /tmp return? [09:52] i empty /tmp reguarly [09:53] oobe, there should be no way you're at 20GB then [09:53] 675M /tmp [09:53] lol [09:53] is /home in its own partition oobe? [09:53] df -h [09:53] /dev/root 20G 18G 538M 98% / [09:54] tmpfs 1010M 0 1010M 0% /dev/shm [09:54] what about /home ? [09:54] du -h /home [09:54] i left out my other drives [09:54] home is on a seperate partition [09:54] /dev/sda6 28G 23G 3.8G 86% /hom [09:54] so /home is on a different drive? [09:54] oh. i thought you just had / [09:55] spymod (n=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [09:55] lowkyalu2 (n=low@dslb-088-070-021-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:55] well i don't know, something went nuts logging to /var/log ? [09:55] then /var is eating all your space. thats my last guess. you could also use stuff like filelight to find out [09:56] see ya [09:56] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-136-252.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [09:56] pastebin the output from: du -h --max-depth=1 / [09:56] oobe: are you using kde ? imho get rid of it for the time being use it one you have space. or else your system _may_ fail to boot unless you clean up. [09:56] oh wait im using squid cache proxy and i think i made it use a ridiculous max cache size [09:56] 11G /var [09:56] o_o [09:56] there's your problem [09:57] my own fault cause i did it as a test then forgot about it [09:57] look what i found [09:57] http://www.freetimefreeflex.com:80/Index.asp?sdid=FCEDP&uid=c1f5d7439307420e8a2728ba814b36a7 [09:57] nope thats not it 188M /var/cache/squid/ [09:57] pastebin the output from: du -h --max-depth=1 /var [09:58] mancha, thats exactly the sort of help i was looking for one sec [09:59] here is the culprit 10G /var/lib [09:59] oobe: You were already told to use du [09:59] oobe, there you go... [09:59] straterra, yea's and of course i know how to use du and have since forever [09:59] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:59] now, what in var lib? [09:59] but i didnt think of using max-depth [10:00] unfortunatly 10G /var/lib/mysql [10:00] aha, what kinda database are you using son? [10:02] unfortunatly im using 3 different databases and all are using much less than that [10:02] one sec i will show you in pastebin [10:03] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-213-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [10:03] well look at ls -lah /var/lib/mysql [10:04] http://pastebin.ca/1737449 [10:04] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslb-088-070-006-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:05] can you paste the ls output? [10:05] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.23) joined ##slackware. [10:05] mancha, http://pastebin.ca/1737451 [10:05] that is very specific info [10:05] somethig in the test subdir is taking it up [10:06] oh there they are, those 1.1G bin things [10:06] spymod (n=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:06] anyhow, you know where the problem is and how to fix it. i'm audi [10:07] yea there are multiples of those [10:07] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:07] im going to find out if its safe to delete them i suspect it is [10:07] ncdu is a handy tool to check whats hogging up disk space http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu [10:07] i make database backups in cron.daily so i should be fine [10:07] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [10:07] thanks mancha [10:07] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:08] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [10:08] np [10:09] mancha, i just found out they are binarie logs and can be deleted also i can change the way mysqld runs to prevent it from happening in future [10:09] e01 (n=e01@95-42-134-152.btc-net.bg) left irc: [10:10] good deal, no more fighting for space then. 20gb shoud be enough given your multimedia is on another part as well as your /home [10:11] yea thats how i always have done it [10:12] that way if i want to change my install i get everything back straight away after a fresh install [10:12] my /home has symlinks to like ~/Videos > /data/media/vids etc. [10:13] i nver used unix. But does unix repos managments is same as in SW? [10:13] sahilsk_, yes and no [10:13] sahilsk_: what? [10:14] Unix doesn't really have repos..not official ones [10:14] he wants to know if package management is e.g bsd is the same as slackware [10:14] same goes for Sw [10:14] exactly [10:14] Slackware has repos [10:15] They just aren't very large [10:15] slackware doesn [10:15] Yes, it does [10:15] not have a official repos [10:15] Yes..it does [10:16] sahilsk_, the offical repos are on the disk but can be downloaded manually using repo's [10:16] k [10:17] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:25] http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Security-fixes-for-Sendmail-895185.html [10:26] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-168-255.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:26] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) joined ##slackware. [10:27] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-180-188.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:27] mancha, SET sql_log_bin=0; then RESET MASTER; did the trick /dev/root 20G 7.9G 11G 44% / [10:28] The memory management on the PowerPC can be used to frighten small children. -- Linus Torvalds [10:29] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:30] john_dee (n=id@95-29-147-144.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:32] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:32] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-257-1-42-236.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [10:33] fuck.. i *hate* when google-analytics is slowing down my slashdot experience :P [10:33] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.72.191) joined ##slackware. [10:33] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.72.69) joined ##slackware. [10:33] i hate it when location-aware javascript content loading slows my slashdot experience [10:34] block all that crap by disabling javascript [10:34] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.175.70) joined ##slackware. [10:35] i dont like complete noscript browsing.. it breaks so many things.. ive just turned off the part-loading thing from the /. prefs since i have an account [10:35] then i only bother accessing it from where im logged in (here at work) [10:36] chuck56 (n=chuck56@66.7.171.116) joined ##slackware. [10:36] btw, top story is interestnig [10:36] *interesting [10:36] the internet in 2020? [10:36] interesting like a cat choking on two guinea pigs is interesting? [10:36] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] yup [10:37] i do, for one, not want a "redesign" [10:37] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:37] i do. back to plain html [10:37] i am leaving my local PCs as IPv4 as long as my router can translate IPv6 to 4 from the wan to the lan [10:37] and i especially do not want that redesign to make the internet "manageble" [10:38] thing is.. you cant just turn internet1 off and turn on internet2 [10:38] obviously [10:38] it will start at the backbone level [10:38] and work its way backwards to the individual subscribers [10:38] internet2 could only happen if everyone was like "superawesome man.. dat shit is the mad notes i gotsta be having that innirnit2 thang nowz!" [10:39] redesigned by corporate sloths [10:39] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.191) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:39] XGizzmo: exactly [10:39] otherwise we're all just like .. go douche a squirrel assbut.. we be staying where we arez [10:39] funded by uncle sam [10:39] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:39] Zordrak: unless the US pass it into law "to protect its citizens" [10:39] macavity: US cant pass any laws on me.. [10:40] te (n=te@adsl-66-137-225-201.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Axius (n=ade@92.84.10.169) joined ##slackware. [10:40] and by that time we should be back to a tory government here (woop) so they wont be all up in ma grill about changin mah internetz [10:40] not directly.. but if all US located sites stops "broadcating" in TCP/IP/HTTP you'd be fucked.. as that would cause pretty much everyone else to follow suit [10:40] like any good thing, once it gets too popular the gov and corporate interests got to stick their fingers in the pie to muck it all up for their benefit [10:41] macavity: they cant even muscle up the fructose to hit up ipv6 praperly [10:42] the govts are less interested in that [10:42] ipv6 is more of the "same crap as ipv4" [10:42] lol.. you mean they dont understand it or what it has anything to dho with [10:43] except it prolongs the problem of running out of addresses (and means the current govts don't have to deal with it) [10:43] that is, auto routed, hard to shape, hard to sanction, etc [10:43] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:43] i just dont see it [10:43] apparently, you guys are talking about the /. article or something related to it :P [10:43] Necos: technically there is no need to run out of ipv4 adresses.. its just a matter of where the NAT has to happen [10:43] a ship named Northern Dreams lost engine power off the coast of Coasta Rica and is adrift, amateur radio operators on 14.300 are contacting the Coasta Rician coast guard to tow them to port [10:44] Necos: yup [10:44] i just finished reading the summary... and yeah, the internet is its own worst enemy [10:45] we'll never run out of ipv4 anyways.. its an anfinite tail graph [10:45] the less there are the less will be assigned [10:45] slackware vs archlinux: http://beej.us/blog/?p=36 [10:45] the harder and more expensive it will be to get them [10:45] read that [10:46] actually, i think we'll have a problem when we start having ISP-level NAT [10:46] Zordrak: each ISP only needs one [10:46] interesting premise: slackware for stability, arch for cutting edge [10:46] Zordrak: albeit that would cost them some pretty hefty iron to only have one :P [10:46] gnubien, sorry, not gonna feed the trolls :P [10:46] gnubien: there is no "slackware vs archlinux" [10:46] Necos: it is a friendly comparison, not a troll feed :) [10:47] anyhow, afk [10:47] no such thing... [10:47] Necos: not a troll feed [10:47] somewhat interesting article [10:47] if you're using either, you know exactly why you're using it [10:47] jeronimo (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [10:47] how to load install .inf with ndiswrapper ? [10:48] how to load installed .inf with ndiswrapper ? [10:48] i dont like rolling release distros they are too unstable = too many things break, i like static releases such as slackware [10:48] jeronimo, does this look like #ndiswrapper to you? >.> [10:49] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Nick change: derfz -> dErFz [10:50] ndiswrapper is a tool [10:50] just tool [10:50] so is.... [10:50] slackbox (i=nocturna@was.denied-inter.net) left irc: "changing servers" [10:50] nah.. cba [10:50] slackbox (i=nocturna@was.denied-inter.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: "Leaving" [10:52] jeronimo, there's a whole wiki for the ndiswrapper project. have you checked it yet? (i'm 99% sure the answer is no) [10:53] Kowalczy1 (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:54] http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Main_Page [10:54] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [10:54] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.72.69) left irc: Connection timed out [10:55] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:55] jeronimo (n=ghost@78.90.113.108) left ##slackware. [10:56] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.175.70) left irc: "Leaving" [10:56] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@cl-185.mrs-01.fr.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:56] guys, it took 2:30 hours to get wine installed completely on my machine [10:57] on a pentium 4, 3.0ghz, 2gb ram machine [10:57] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [10:57] and still i can't run adobe photoshop on it [10:57] :( [10:58] sahilsk_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+wine+adobe+photoshop&l=1 [10:59] lol [10:59] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@cl-185.mrs-01.fr.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] brb [10:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:01] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [11:02] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.67.22) joined ##slackware. [11:04] bah... I can't get my wireless to work.... I'm following alien's slackbook entry, and I did it before xmas and was connected... now I just can't seem to [11:05] did anyone found in a situation where he needs rsync some files that are readable only by root from a server through remote shell but root logins arent allowed on that server? [11:06] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] http://imagebin.org/78260 adobe photoshop 7 running in wine on slack-13 [11:07] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [11:08] and... [11:08] just want to refresh my party-weary mind.... I set up rc.inet1.conf to either poll the router for DHCP or give my box a static IP.... do I also set up /my/ (by which I mean /this box's/) wireless network in rc.inet1.conf [11:08] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [11:08] theblackbox: you can, or you can install wicd from slackware/extra/wicd [11:09] wicd will also manage wired as well as wired network settings [11:09] this step confuses me, it seems that what guides I've found all seem to assume you wish to broadcast a WAN from your box, when I just want to connect to the office wireless [11:09] and let you switch between connections [11:09] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.40.130) joined ##slackware. [11:10] the info you're finding is for making your slackware box into an access point [11:10] make it easy on yourself and install wicd [11:10] then, to use wicd, just add your user account to the netdev group [11:11] you have the option of a cli ncurses wicd client or an x wicd client [11:11] alisonken1home, yes, but that's not exactly a solution.... it's a wierd thing that I often get some flac for in here (which is odd because it's the "slackware way" imho) but I just prefer to get into the core of things so that I understand them, I can't rely on something like wicd, so I'd prefer to learn without it [11:12] where to find gimpshop ?? [11:12] for slackware [11:12] slackbuild doesn't have it [11:12] sahilsk_, you checked alienBOB's packages? he does some custom ones that are worth a scour [11:13] theblackbox: wicd doesn't hide things from you - it's just an easier way to manage your networks when you have multiple setups [11:13] not promising anything though [11:13] patkoscsaba (n=patkoscs@81.196.181.216) joined ##slackware. [11:13] patkoscsaba (n=patkoscs@81.196.181.216) left ##slackware. [11:13] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-006-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] if you want to understand wireless, then that's a different animal [11:13] alisonken1home, well I'm currently dancing around wpa_gui and detest the thing.... would it just be a more feature rich replacement for that? [11:14] simpler than wpa_gui - and wicd is a package of python scripts so you can still learn from it as well [11:14] Axius (n=ade@92.84.10.169) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] it's basically a python daemon for actual hardware setups, and a couple of client python scripts for talking to the daemon [11:14] NetworkManager Wlassistant :) [11:15] netwolker: good luck using NetworkManager in Slackware [11:15] aha, that sounds pretty good then.... now just got the problem of getting the package on an isolated box =/ [11:15] haven't tried wlanassistant, but networkmanager has some issues with slackware setup [11:15] bah [11:15] alisonken1home: some? [11:15] :P [11:16] theblackbox: standard slackware package - copy wicd*.txz to usb and installpkg from usb [11:16] NaCl: :) trying to be charitable [11:16] unixfool (n=gayron@65.118.96.2) joined ##slackware. [11:16] and failing quickly :P [11:16] chuck56 (n=chuck56@66.7.171.116) left irc: "Leaving" [11:17] unixfool (n=gayron@65.118.96.2) left irc: Client Quit [11:17] theblackbox, [11:17] alienBOB's packages?? [11:17] alisonken1home, I'm running x64 and I have no idea where I put my iso.... or my usb stick for that matter.... [11:17] googling but doesn't find anything relevant [11:17] the holidays did naughty things to my head =S [11:17] theblackbox: you can d/l it from a mirror on a connected computer [11:17] i need to install gimpshoop [11:18] theblackbox: btw - since wicd is python, it's arch independent [11:18] ahh [11:18] sahilsk_, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [11:18] alisonken1home: library paths are different [11:18] ahha [11:18] NaCl: he has python installed - and that's the only library path dependency [11:19] alisonken1home: it's the difference between /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 [11:19] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [11:19] could just grab the SBo of it and edit the script for the 64 bit lib? [11:19] It would probably be easier just to grab the 64-bit packages [11:20] cool [11:20] Although, you'll probably want the package in -current. The one in 13.0 is bugged. [11:20] Terribly so. [11:20] And Pat hasn't updated it yet, IIRC. [11:21] didnt it get updated to 1.6.2.2 ? [11:21] spook: in -current [11:21] ok - wicd does use /usr/lib for slackware and /usr/lib64 for slackware64 [11:21] NaCl: i swear rworkman saying pat had added it to /patches/ [11:21] theblackbox: just d/l the wicd package from a mirror at slackware64 [11:21] spook: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/patches/packages/ [11:21] nope [11:22] alrite, heading to me local 64 mirror [11:22] spook: IIRC, he said that he was trying to get pat to add it to patches/ but wasn't because he hadn't heard from enough people saying that it was broken [11:22] ah - the difference is site-packages [11:22] NaCl: oh :( [11:23] alisonken1home: yeah [11:23] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/extra/wicd/ <-- the one I use [11:24] theblackbox: don't forget to add your users that will be using wicd to netdev group [11:24] cheers alicephilippa [11:25] err, alisonken1home [11:25] ;) [11:25] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:25] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-11.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:25] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:26] kambing_jantan (n=anonymou@110.139.214.116) joined ##slackware. [11:26] alicephilippa, huh! :) [11:26] tabfail :) [11:27] goes with the headfail.... need to pull myself together! [11:27] one of the nice things about wicd is it allows me to add pre/post script changes so it will setup my work tunnel when I'm connecting to someplace other than the office [11:28] and once you have your wireless setup, it will autoconnect for you when you're in range of the selected ap [11:28] at least on startup [11:28] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:28] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:29] anyway - off to bed [11:30] kambing_jantan (n=anonymou@110.139.214.116) left irc: [11:31] gtl_ (i=1000@150.162.164.152) joined ##slackware. [11:31] gtl_ (i=1000@150.162.164.152) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:31] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:31] guys, need help with dolphin [11:32] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-109-67-26-228.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] I try to start it, but it doesn't runs [11:33] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:33] gtludwig: that is super descriptive. [11:34] spook, yeah I realise that... [11:34] what is dolphin ? [11:34] anyway, i click on it's icon, it bounces a lot (am using KDE) and it dies out [11:34] gtludwig: perhaps start dolphin from a console, see what happens. [11:34] kk, hold [11:35] rk4n3, dolphin is a file manager for kde [11:35] aha [11:35] I was googling and came up with a browser based on Mozilla and focusing on social websites [11:36] spook, Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" [11:36] rk4n3: thats the default filemanager in kde4, instead of konqueror (konq is still there and still does filemanaging though) [11:36] gtludwig: silly question, have you got dbus running? [11:37] i guess so... how do I check? [11:37] is /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus executable? [11:37] yup [11:38] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:38] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:40] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:42] gtludwig:try this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/277240 [11:42] or betther...try another de ;D [11:42] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) joined ##slackware. [11:43] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [11:43] hmm... seems I've a problem with dbus, then [11:44] gtludwig:didn't work? [11:44] nops [11:44] EDX (n=ward@94-224-70-46.access.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [11:44] after deleting the file have you restarted dbus? [11:45] ? [11:45] hmm... okay so I install wicd, which looks fine and will probably be useful down the line, but it's useless right now because my setup is obviously screwed... it finds no wireless networks................. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!] [11:46] bloody disabled wireless adapter...... [11:46] Action: theblackbox thinks he should just go to bed and write off the whole year! [11:47] Action: theblackbox apologizes to anyone affected by the depths of his stupidity [11:47] netwolker, yes, i rebooted [11:47] works now? [11:47] nops [11:47] same error [11:47] vermele (n=vermele@188.25.66.180) joined ##slackware. [11:48] hmmm [11:49] EDX (n=ward@94-224-70-46.access.telenet.be) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] gtludwig: ps ax | grep dbus-daemon [11:49] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-25.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:50] let's see if your d-bus is actually running [11:50] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-24-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:50] yup, two entries [11:52] troys (n=troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] have you tried running dolphin inside the console as root? [11:52] netwolker: scroll up [11:53] spook: ops [11:55] gtludwig: you can try to logout and login again, and see if this time wors [11:55] kk, brb [11:55] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:56] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:6f) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:56] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:6f) joined ##slackware. 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[12:03] logging off and on, brb [12:03] now i am ready to [12:03] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) left irc: "Leaving" [12:03] try your code [12:03] for restoring my kde settings [12:03] wine installation is now over. [12:04] try the code for pressing enter less [12:04] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) joined ##slackware. [12:04] could you paste it again? [12:05] sure. pastebin.com/pressenterless [12:06] sahilsk_, copy and paste this exactly as i type it as user *not* root "mv ~/.kde /tmp && mv ~/.kde.old ~/.kde" then restart you will probably have the same error again to fix this just type qtconfig and change your default desktop stlye to cleanlooks or qt [12:07] sahilsk_: http://pastebin.com/m8a55082 [12:07] everyone else should read that too. [12:07] what's that.. [12:07] :D [12:08] oobe, done pasting. now logging out... [12:08] can I use nfs to export a directory under /root? or is this a world of pain and silly to even consider? [12:08] sahilsk_ (n=sahilsk1@59.177.32.197) left irc: Client Quit [12:09] theblackbox: export a directory under /root? as in exporting /root/blah ? [12:09] wanting to share a backup folder between boxes, spook exactly [12:09] theblackbox: i dont see why you couldnt do that... [12:10] netwolker, still the same =( [12:10] spook..... but? [12:10] theblackbox: the nfs daemon should have permission to that dir, might lead to a world of hurt in permission fubars [12:10] I'm just wondering if it's the type of behaviour that shouldn't be encouraged ;) [12:10] theblackbox: it seems like an unwise idea, even if it is entirely possible. [12:10] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.32.197) joined ##slackware. [12:10] theblackbox: Do you really want to expose anything under /root? [12:11] spook, but I'll always have to access as root, won't I [12:11] oobe, no use [12:11] a new setting again [12:11] theblackbox: i agree with eviljames, while i cant think of anything specifically wrong with it, it doesnt feel right. [12:11] eviljames, spook, my thoughts exactly [12:11] Also, it should be noted that the account root gets mapped to "nobody" under nfs. [12:11] instead of setting my old kde setting it just created a new set of kde setting. [12:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:12] maybe put the directory elsewhere, and symlink to it from /root [12:13] sahilsk, so you are saying that you can start kde but your old settings are gone [12:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] sahilsk: when you run qtconfig what is the default "GUI style it shows up" ? [12:13] rt [12:13] spook, what difference will that make? [12:13] oxygen [12:13] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:14] theblackbox: you export it under the /whereever dir and still access it like i assume you do through /root/blah [12:14] so /root isnt exposed. [12:14] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:15] and when i change it to gtk, , kde kick me out ,the next time when i login in kde session. [12:15] spook, right, makes sense... but it will be exported under 'nobody' still, right? as all things are? [12:15] sahilsk: change that to plastique. [12:15] but I can make it read only and to a static IPudf,iso9660 user,noauto,loop 0 0 [12:15] whoops [12:15] k [12:15] theblackbox: shrug, i dont pretend to understand nfs completely [12:16] yeah, it's been a bit of a weak spot for me [12:16] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-24-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [12:16] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.72.191) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:17] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] oobe, when i again trying to run your give code, termian is replying me with this message [12:17] mv: inter-device move failed: `/home/sahil/.kde' to `/tmp/.kde'; unable to remove target: Is a directory [12:18] "run your give code, termian" [12:18] Nick change: NaCl -> NaCl- [12:18] NaCl-: you forgot the + :-) [12:18] *ur given code [12:19] sahilsk, sahilsk "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.new && mv ~/.kde.old ~/.kde" [12:19] yes [12:19] gtludwig:i'm still thinking [12:19] :D [12:19] Nick change: NaCl- -> NaCl [12:20] oobe, [12:20] mv: cannot stat `/home/sahil/.kde': No such file or directory [12:20] netwolker, so am I :D [12:20] kukukkk (i=1000@188.24.66.37) joined ##slackware. [12:20] lol ok then mv ~/.kde.old ~/.kde [12:21] oobe, [12:21] if that supplys same error then you lost your old kde dir which of course is a pebkac issue and i am not responsible [12:21] mv: cannot stat `/home/sahil/.kde.old': No such file or directory [12:21] Karu (n=alch@78-28-80-173.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [12:21] pastebin ls -a ~/ [12:21] k [12:22] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:22] oobe: pastebin: command not found [12:22] lol [12:23] oobe, [12:23] http://pastebin.org/71069 [12:23] gtludwig:could you paste the output of 'groups'? [12:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.191) joined ##slackware. [12:24] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E2AC1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] netwolker, sure, just a sec [12:24] gtl@cpc-5564:~$ groups [12:24] users floppy audio video cdrom messagebus plugdev power netdev [12:24] sahilsk, your old settings maybe in .kde.new [12:25] and... [12:25] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:27] so, what should i do?] [12:27] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:27] learn how to use basic commands like cp ls and mv [12:27] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:27] hmm... i think I know what may be the problem [12:28] sahilsk: restore it back. [12:28] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] oobe: i'm just curious , what exactly is sahilsk problem ? o_o [12:28] behold! Th [12:28] I'm using slackware64-current here, and have installed dbus-compat32-1.2.12-x86_64-1_slamd64.txz [12:28] darn... my keyborard aint working... sorry [12:28] kakukk (i=1000@188.24.66.245) joined ##slackware. [12:29] netwolker, does this makes sense? [12:29] kukukk (i=1000@188.24.65.88) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:29] init[1], i told him to mv ~/.kde to ~/.kde.old to fix kde not starting then we figured out how to fix it and he wanted his old settings back [12:29] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-212.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:29] i try [12:29] now he some how lost his old .kde cause he repeated one of the commands without knowing what it does [12:30] oobe: hm. [12:30] but that was not my point. See here.. im 41 years old, but the bus driver thought i was under 15... what the hell gives? [12:30] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] darth_mohl, you can get child concession fares [12:30] nice [12:30] gtludwig: did dolphin work before? [12:30] i think i should be to old for being .. something ;-) [12:30] oobe: :D [12:31] i think , i did sth [12:31] it did work sometime, I don't remember wether this multilib package was installed or not [12:31] sth really wrong... [12:31] I'll uninstall it and see [12:31] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.32.197) left irc: "Leaving" [12:32] Action: init[1] fooof ... [12:32] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:32] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] gtludwig:it could be PyKDE [12:35] btw: my friend mernil has asked me to ask you to unban him from this channel! .. He's really a nice guy! [12:35] sth? [12:35] oobe: something ;) [12:35] i know him from the gym... very endowned also.. :-P [12:35] ok [12:35] darth_mohl: talk to ops. [12:35] i dont think he is banned anymore [12:36] was his e-penis large too ? [12:36] i dont know any ops.. but okay [12:36] maybe that is how he got banned [12:36] darth_mohl: the ops are listed in the guidelines link in the topic [12:36] darth_mohl: if hes banned, i trust the judgement of the ops. [12:36] me too [12:37] i just tried to be funny.. :-| [12:37] heh :P [12:37] ;-) [12:37] a fire-and-miss joke :P [12:37] darth_mohl: are you sure of a nick called mernil? ,that nick isn't registered ,or may be he is host banned . [12:37] init[1]: well, i think so at least [12:38] gtludwig:good luck with that [12:38] i remember when this channel was registered users only. what happened to those times? [12:38] i only see 5 knuckleheadss in the ban list [12:38] this crazy new world of unregistration [12:38] none are mernil [12:38] Pig_Pen: slackboy has its own internal list of bans [12:38] hellokitty (n=hellokit@97-127-222-28.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:38] ah [12:39] bbl laters slackfriends :-) [12:39] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]" [12:40] strange guy. [12:40] Karu (n=alch@78-28-80-173.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [12:41] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.40.130) left irc: "Sto andando via" [12:41] kukukkk (i=1000@188.24.66.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:43] lots of strange characters pop in here, irc is like riding the bus = you never know who is coming abord and you dont want to let your guard down [12:43] s/bus/short bus/ [12:43] biggest short bus i ever seen [12:44] i propose we change back to registered users only [12:44] that will help [12:45] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.67.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] that means easier to track registered naughty bots :D [12:46] or what if every registered user has the power to kick a non-registered user [12:46] Oh that would be a good change! [12:46] Pig_Pen: with great power comes great responsib... ;) [12:47] a few more ops, that are active, and care about the channel would be good too [12:47] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:48] Maybe one in Australia to cover the parts of the day that the North America and West Europe people are all asleep? [12:48] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-098.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:48] true, but if a non-registered user has good sense and is honestly trying to solve a _real_ slackware problem nobody would kick em for that, just the knuckleheads on different distros acting as posers and trolls [12:48] i shouldnt be an op. [12:49] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) left irc: "Leaving" [12:49] kakukk (i=1000@188.24.66.245) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:52] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [12:52] spook: that means you should be an op, since you fear the power you will approach the job with reverence [12:52] More likely he knows that he'll abuse it for fun & profit. [12:52] Pig_Pen: Or..that means we should agree with him [12:52] Pig_Pen: how is me being an op going to help the channel? [12:53] pfff first day of work [12:53] all that'll happen is that people who disagree with me or annoy me when i'm drunk will get banned [12:53] Nick change: goarilla_ -> goarilla [12:53] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) joined ##slackware. [12:53] oh, i forgot, you get drunk and loony on occasion [12:54] nice hobby you got there ;p\ [12:54] maybe some sort of breathalizer op device [12:54] sort of like Dr. Jekyl & Mr. Hyde [12:55] Pig_Pen: he stole that hobby from me [12:55] goarilla: you must be new here. [12:55] no but i come in waves [12:56] i drink booze but in moderation, i have a shotglass of 195 proof everclear every evening in a glass of fruit juice [12:56] i'm here for a few months to return a year and half later [12:56] goarilla: bye then ;) [12:56] :) [12:57] Pig_Pen: i only drink it every now and again, but i get super pissed and end up on irc for some reason [12:57] Axius (n=ade@92.85.27.84) joined ##slackware. [12:57] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.166) joined ##slackware. [12:57] that would make it fun, have a drunk angry slacker with ops power :D [12:57] i would say fire|bird should be an op :D [12:58] but what about ... [12:58] ME [12:58] yeah, fire|bird seems level-headed enough [12:58] goarilla: you are gorilla. [12:58] te (n=te@adsl-66-137-225-201.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:59] exactly and you don't dissapoint a large strong primate ! [12:59] sounds more like a baboon to me ;) [12:59] :D [12:59] ever pissed of a baboon BP{k} ? [13:00] :D it ain't pretty [13:00] goarilla: it's still early. give me a chance ;) [13:00] they are the maffia of the primates [13:01] once you piss one of they'll come with hordes and hordes of soldiers to put you in the ground [13:01] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:01] goarilla: but you are alone here ;) [13:01] my horde is lurking around :D [13:01] Action: spook prepares the frozen eels [13:02] BP{k}: aren't you an op ? [13:02] he probably should be. [13:02] win 12 [13:02] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-245-167.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:02] yes he should [13:02] bah [13:02] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [13:02] goarilla: BP{k} is burger King ;) [13:02] lol [13:03] hello happy slackers [13:03] heya LnxSlck, how are you? [13:03] goarilla: no, I am not. I am just generally a smartarse. ;) [13:03] superbofh (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Success [13:03] Action: goarilla is preparing poo slingshots [13:03] superbofh (n=xumpi@a95-93-83-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:03] and old time ;) [13:03] timer* [13:03] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Action: spook stabs goarilla with a frozen eel [13:04] fire|bird, nice and you? [13:04] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:04] LnxSlck: I'm doing alright, thanks. [13:04] ;) [13:04] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "já volto" [13:04] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:04] Action: goarilla launches poo-trebuchet towards spook [13:05] Action: goarilla says: you need a bath ! [13:05] goarilla: you're dead, with a dead eel in your chest. [13:05] heya fire|bird [13:05] the police will have a fun puzzle to solve. [13:06] hi gtludwig [13:06] Action: init[1] omg fire|bird haz laaaats of fans. [13:06] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:06] you can't kill someone with a frozen eel [13:06] it's not pointy enough so it'll shatter [13:06] and chip [13:07] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E2AC1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:07] I bet I could eat 100 frozen eels [13:07] goarilla: i've been killing frozen eels since before you first joined this channel. [13:08] s/killing/killing with/ [13:08] don't believe you [13:09] kukukkk (n=dvorak@188.24.66.172) joined ##slackware. [13:09] there are public logs of this channel [13:09] i know [13:10] omg srsly? [13:10] sirslacker (i=1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:10] but they do not go far enough [13:10] read topic jg71 [13:10] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.158.88) left irc: "brb" [13:11] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:12] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:12] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:12] freud_1956 (n=fred@proxy.cb.ufrn.br) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Action: init[1] hate idle ##Slackware :-/ [13:13] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:13] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:13] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:13] init[1]: suck it up [13:14] Action: init[1] joining #ubuntu for some entertainment ;) [13:14] spook: ;) [13:14] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [13:15] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [13:15] lol [13:15] can k3b burn a dvd of an avi file for veiwing on a dvd player? [13:15] good idea [13:16] i dont think so [13:16] what do I use then? [13:17] jescis: that would be DVD mastering [13:17] spectre1 (n=kyle@nc-65-41-163-123.dyn.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] spectre1 (n=kyle@nc-65-41-163-123.dyn.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:17] you have to transcode i think [13:17] jescis: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/AVI_to_DVD google before you ask. [13:17] freud_1956 (n=fred@proxy.cb.ufrn.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:18] init[1], yeah, my bad [13:18] >.> [13:19] freud_1956 (n=fred@proxy.cb.ufrn.br) joined ##slackware. [13:19] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:20] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:20] init[1], it's sort of like when I'm out shopping... I'd ask the employee before I actually look. mostly because I know I'd have to eventually because I can't see what's in front of my face sometimes ;-) [13:21] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: "Real_Life();" [13:23] DeVeDe might to what you want jescis [13:23] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.166) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:24] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [13:25] milomb (n=milomb@64.212.175.249) joined ##slackware. [13:26] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [13:27] jescis: you got glaucoma ? [13:27] I take glaucoma medication [13:28] the herbal one or the synthetic ones [13:28] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.158.88) joined ##slackware. [13:28] 100% pure herbal goodness. [13:28] bbender (n=bbender@64.212.175.249) joined ##slackware. [13:29] milomb (n=milomb@64.212.175.249) left ##slackware. [13:29] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [13:31] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Hey guys, I've got some wierd-ass SSH problem and could use some suggestions. [13:32] goarilla, no glaucoma here... I don't even have a spider web ;-) [13:32] paradroid (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:32] I'm trying to setup my laptop to change brightness when unplugging & plugging in the AC adaptor by editting ACPI scripts. I've read the manpage, and have been trying to get something together. I know that I have to edit scripts in /etc/acpi/events/* to do this. Anybody have any guides or previous knowledge about this? [13:33] Alan_Hicks: telnet! [13:33] I am currently unable to SSH into a client's firewall from outside their network. When connecting from within their network, however, everything is fine. [13:33] Is their gateway set correctly? [13:33] I've checked with tcpdump, and the firewall does indeed receive those packets, and iptables is setup correctly. [13:34] $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp -i $ext_if -m multiport --dports $tcp_ports -j ACCEPT # 22 is part of the tcp_ports variable. [13:34] When you run tcpdump on the firewall, is it actually sending data back? [13:35] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:36] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:36] straterra: Negative. [13:36] tcpdump log here: http://pastebin.com/m39932d08 [13:37] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.32.197) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Start a traceroute from the router to the client [13:38] It gets most of the way to me before traceroute packets are rejected. [13:38] Reaches my ISP's network at least. [13:39] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:6f) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:39] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:6f) joined ##slackware. [13:40] cany anyone verify if this are converted packages already for multilib http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/slackware64-compat32/? [13:40] Something's gotta be wrong with ssh itself in order to prevent it from sending any data back. [13:40] crashdata: That's what they are supposed to be. ymmv [13:40] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: "Verlassend" [13:41] paradroid (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:41] k thanks...i thought i had to convert them still.. [13:41] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.152) left irc: "Leaving" [13:42] crashdata: the compat32 would be somewhat of a clue ;) [13:42] Alan_Hicks: Just to confirm, the $ext_if is the interface that is attached to the WAN, not the LAN [13:42] eviljames: Correct. [13:42] OpenSSH never even completes the three-way handshake. I never see a SA frame returned to my client. [13:42] spook did you used another nick here ? [13:43] BP{k}, just confirming, base on the write up of the multilib 'howto' [13:44] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Ok..... bad news... [13:46] I've initiated a server reboot for ~4 minutes from now in screen. [13:46] goarilla: nope. [13:46] I then stopped all of ssh, slept for 5 seconds, and restarted ssh. [13:47] Now, from the LAN side, I am able to connect and login, but then the openssh session immediately terminates. [13:47] No change when SSHing to the WAN. [13:47] then i was here before you [13:47] :( [13:47] :D [13:48] according to the logs or you were silent for +2 years [13:48] goarilla: which logs? [13:48] ffs..who gives a flying fuck? [13:48] straterra: he does apparently. [13:48] on wigglit.ath.cx [13:48] john_dee (n=id@95-29-147-144.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [13:48] only 7-8 months tho [13:49] goarilla: So you've got a longer ##slackware penis. So what? [13:49] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [13:49] he was saying he ... was killing people with frozen eels here before i even joined [13:49] hes shy. dont mention it. [13:49] Indeed. Are you here asking questions or answering them? [13:49] neither? ;) [13:50] or [13:50] crap ... [13:50] john_dee (n=id@95-29-147-144.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:50] i think hes xoring both. a genius [13:50] he didn't say he was doing it here [13:51] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:51] 2/win 2 [13:51] bah [13:51] hey goarilla :-) [13:51] freud_1956 (n=fred@proxy.cb.ufrn.br) left irc: "Leaving" [13:51] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@78.110.111.133) joined ##slackware. [13:51] heej [13:52] i only got the logs until 2007 but no mention of your frozen eels spook [13:52] how do i install 'all' the files inside a folder automatically without have having to do isntallpkg file.txz for each of them? [13:53] crashdata: upgradepkg --install-new *t?z <- something like that should work for you [13:53] goarilla: you know, its kinda sad how far you're taking this. [13:53] s/kinda/really, really/ [13:53] eviljames, thanks [13:54] spook: i'm bored [13:54] eviljames, u saved so much of my time :)...this will not compile the sub directories right? [13:54] crashdata: Just beware that it will replace old packages of the same name, so if you're trying to put 2 same/similar packages side by side it will not do what you're looking for [13:54] goarilla: what a coincidence - you're boring us [13:54] and angry since work has started again :( [13:55] crashdata: For directories (ie going to slackware-current and having a/ ap/, d/, etc) use: upgradepkg --install-new **/*t?z or so [13:55] well i'm sorry [13:55] eviljames, that command u gave me has the same function as just installpkg command? [13:55] crashdata: no. [13:55] no it forces installation crashdata [13:55] crashdata: No, not the exact same. It checks for packages of the same name and removes them, replacing with the upgraded version. [13:55] crashdata: For any package that there is no previous version, it will install. [13:56] if you have a package installed with the same name your overwriting its files (granted it was compiled with the same --prefix configure options) [13:56] goarilla: incorrect. [13:56] goarilla: it doesn't [13:56] goarilla: thats not how upgradepkg works. [13:56] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@78.110.111.133) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:56] aaah crap thought it was installpkg [13:57] my bad [13:57] for just installpkg if there is a similar files it will install the new files side by side? [13:57] no i'm not sure of it [13:57] forget what i have said [13:57] but for upgrade package it replaces the old to new? [13:57] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:57] it upgrades old to new. [13:57] am i understanding it correctly? [13:57] crashdata: That's pretty close. If you want to know exactly you can read the scripts themselves [13:57] with install-new it will install irregardless if it's newer or not [13:57] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:58] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:58] crashdata: but if you had, say, gimp-2.3.x-pkg.tgz and gimp-2.4.x-pkg.tgz and used installpkg it could put the two packages into your system side by side overwriting any files of the same path between them. [13:59] instead of doing upgradepkg --install-new **/*t?z i can replace the upgradepkg to just installpkg? [13:59] crashdata: for upgradepkg it will first remove gimp-2.3.x and then install gimp-2.4 [13:59] crashdata: I would say that the ugpradepkg is a safer option, installpkg will leave the old packages on your system [13:59] crashdata: installpkg will be ugly and may break things [13:59] got it [14:00] thanks for hte help guys :) [14:00] no prob. pay it forward [14:00] :P [14:00] that's actually pretty cool that installpkg and upgradepkg are distinct/separate ... they really are quite separate scenarios [14:01] rk4n3: agreed, and for many a testing purpose it is important that their functionality differs. [14:01] indeed [14:01] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-119-139.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:02] when is a good idea to install 2 diff version of a package side by side? [14:02] never? [14:03] crashdata: when you want it. [14:03] :) what are the advantage? [14:03] crashdata: suppose you want to test 2 different versions of gimp, so you build yourself 2 packages with different prefixes (say /usr/local/gimp1 and /usr/local/gimp2). Install both packages, test as appropriate... [14:03] None? [14:04] crashdata: Then you can cleanly remove one, the other, or both using removepkg [14:04] eviljames, but u said that it will overwrite any files of the same path between them' so doesnt this render the functionality of the older file? [14:04] unless you build the packages especially to avoid that. [14:04] ahhhh [14:05] what spook said, which was part of the "different prefixes" in my original statement [14:05] but that would only be for testing [14:05] mrX__ (i=3fc7dba2@gateway/web/freenode/x-xamndvkzjuodfxhf) joined ##slackware. [14:06] hello everyone. [14:06] one last thing... the last statement **/*t?z would it also work if i just do *.*t?z ?? [14:06] no [14:06] crashdata: the **/* <- means recursively go through folders. [14:06] err, **/ [14:06] euhm [14:07] **/ is only recently added to bash and comes from zsh iirc [14:07] oh, well, I've been a zsh user forever so I guess I just take it for granted.. [14:07] does anyone know the status packages.slackware.it? its been down or a while and there hasn't been an update on their tweeter since oct. [14:07] does the bash version in slack13 support it ? [14:07] goarilla: probably. test. ls **/*somefiles* [14:07] don't have slack13 [14:07] but if i just want to install the file inside a folder i can just do *.t?z then? [14:08] i have slack12 and i know for a fact it doesn't work [14:08] crashdata: If all the files are in the same folder, then *t?z or *.t?z will work [14:08] mrX__: seems to say to check http://twitter.com/slackwarelinux for updates. have you tried that? [14:08] burobengen (n=joga@ti0121a340-0132.bb.online.no) left irc: "Leaving" [14:08] but but *.t?z is better [14:08] both* [14:08] k thanks for helping me dissects those commands :) [14:09] *t?z could expand to rattez for instance [14:09] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:09] while *.t?z only expands to rat.tez for example [14:09] spook: I did there hasn't been an update since Oct. [14:10] mrX__: funny that. [14:10] spook, i wanna hear one more joke.. could you cite one more?? [14:11] sahilsk: go away [14:11] :( [14:12] nice joke... took time to understand. [14:12] :D [14:12] joke? did i miss soemthing? [14:12] the twitter stuff crashdata [14:12] i guess ... [14:12] ahhh [14:12] was that a joke? [14:13] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-116-225.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:13] mrX__: no, it wasnt. [14:13] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:13] I guess I missed it. [14:13] lol [14:13] sahilsk: was that the joke ? [14:13] sahilsk, u pulling an all nighter again? [14:14] Action: spook shakes his head, sighs and facepalms [14:14] lol, [14:15] anyways.. I guess no one knows the status of it. Its a shame that such a valuable site is dead. [14:15] i am trying to get my old settings back. :/ mv ~/.kde ~./.kde.new [14:15] which site you talking about? [14:15] mrX__, [14:15] packages.slackware.it [14:15] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-30-150.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:16] i am new to slackware and so to its community help. [14:17] but must say, oobe ,goarilla like SW user has helped me a lot. [14:17] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [14:17] or else i would have shifted to fedora 12 [14:17] what happened to the link in the VLC to? [14:18] for the MP3/AAC encoding support link is not working [14:18] sahilsk: often, Slackware depends on a community of people who read the documentation, and advise others to do the same for well documented problems [14:18] komentarze_listy (n=komentar@unaffiliated/komentarze) joined ##slackware. [14:19] and I find that most often, questions asked to a community (usually other communities but occasionally here) have well documented answers. [14:19] I have try almost all distros and alway came back to slackware, and I find the community very helpfull. [14:19] mrX__: http://packages.slackverse.org/ [14:19] mrX__, you liar [14:19] *ahem* www.slackbuilds.org [14:19] :P [14:20] mrX__: I have tried tonnes of distros myself, and am 100% certain that I'll never use anything other than Slackware (at least, not on purpose) [14:20] ooh, [14:20] what about SABAYON??? [14:20] the gentoo linux , has anyone here tried it too? [14:20] i tried fedora 10 at work [14:21] same here, eviljames.. I'm even working on creating two distros base on slackware. One for kids and the other for mythtv. [14:21] still use it but i hate it [14:21] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.172.136.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:21] chopp: thx [14:22] slack is good. [14:22] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:22] perhaps, that's why slakcware still at number 7 in the distro watch [14:22] the oldest distro [14:22] #7 cause no one wants to learn nmore [14:22] and the very first ,linux [14:22] :D [14:23] mrX__: after I finished LFS, it dawned on me that I wasted several days re-creating Slackware :P [14:23] and not really re-creating, but making a shoddy recreation thereof :P [14:23] actually , most user has a "learn-as-they-go" attitude. [14:23] same is true for me [14:23] I knos, remember when I first downloaded using AOL's dial-up many moons ago. [14:25] LFS has weakened tho [14:25] bender (n=bender@93.185.183.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:26] iirc it used to include docs on why they did what they did or recommendations on how to do it differently [14:26] now it's just a fast cookbook [14:26] one think I do like about debian is how it formats its output when its booting [ software .... [OK], I wish slackware would formart it the same way instead of multiples lines of data. [14:27] i think RH started with that [14:27] you mean the green [OK] red [FAILED] [14:27] yeap. [14:27] gparted does something extra [14:28] it uses \t i think in it's PS1 startup output [14:28] [33.45212] ... [OK] [14:29] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-136-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [14:29] hi there [14:30] no slackbuild for DeVeDe for slack 13, no worky on 13 ??? [14:30] metrofox: Hi [14:31] Axius (n=ade@92.85.27.84) left irc: "Leaving" [14:31] or nobody has gotten around to update it Pig_Pen [14:31] are there slackbuilds for other versions [14:32] 12.1 did, (i think) [14:33] I would like to know if is possible to install packages with .txz format in oldier Slackware flavors like 12.0/1. Thanks [14:33] then use it [14:34] are there any rdp clients in slack except for rdekstop? [14:34] yup, fixin' to do that PDQ [14:34] not that i know of john_dee [14:34] hey mrX__ :) [14:35] komentarze_listy: nope [14:36] Pig_Pen: ok, thanks [14:36] short answer no komentarze_listy [14:36] long answer yes [14:36] yes ? how ? [14:36] update the pkgtools to the versions of slack 13 [14:37] or ... have a utility that can ... extract the files in the txz archive [14:37] then makepkg in the dir where you extracted it [14:37] build xz then untar the package and build it back as a tgz ? [14:37] or untar it in / and inspect install.sh, edit if necessary and run it [14:37] goarilla: yes, i was going to ask that... which utility can extract those damm txz? [14:38] its lzma i think [14:38] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@78.110.111.133) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Pig_Pen, instead of DeVede, have you trued Q DVD Author? [14:38] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [14:38] thanks man, i'm going to do it now [14:38] i do not recommend it komentarze_listy [14:39] nope [14:39] it could depend on libs only present in slack 13 [14:39] it is theoretical at best [14:39] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.191.189) joined ##slackware. [14:39] i did not install qt4/kde4 and so far dont like it, i will try kde4 again next time slack has another release [14:40] you would be better served reading UPGRADE.TXT and doing an upgrade to 13 [14:40] goarilla: I know, but... I'm doing that just to test some minor programs [14:40] .wub 19 [14:40] carp [14:40] crashdata: ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/people/alien/restricted_slackbuilds/vlc/ [14:40] you could also run into CXX C incompatibility errors [14:40] LIBC* [14:41] goarilla: I think that i'm not going to have problems with irssi and alpine:P In fact, lzma is present at: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-12.1/utilities/lzma/4.32.7/ [14:41] Do not use lzma for that. Use xz [14:42] alienBOB: why ? [14:42] lzma != xz and xz is what Slackware uses to create .txz packages [14:42] xz is lzma's "next generation" if you want [14:43] alienBOB, thanks [14:43] hmmm, thanks dude! [14:43] lzma II ? [14:45] off question: I'm having problems with lag at freenode... it's only me ? [14:45] no freenode has been suffering a lot of netsplits recently [14:45] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.210) joined ##slackware. [14:45] hey all [14:45] goarilla: netsplits ? i'll search for that on google haha [14:45] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.91.52) joined ##slackware. [14:46] i'm running a fresh install of slack64-current and am having dbus problems [14:48] brb [14:48] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.210) left irc: Client Quit [14:48] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.210) joined ##slackware. [14:50] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.32.197) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:50] goarilla: why these netsplits are going on ? [14:51] network instability [14:52] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.32.73) joined ##slackware. [14:52] No, DDoS attacks on freenode servers [14:52] I thought they would have ended by now [14:54] Pig_Pen: Why don't you download the build for slackware 12.2, edit the file change the version number than download the source file for DeVeDe? [14:55] vermele (n=vermele@188.25.66.180) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:55] ? [14:55] sad [14:55] wow still how do you know alienBOB [14:56] StevenR (n=foo@mail.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:56] jdk, is very common pkg [14:56] why it is noot in the slkbulf [14:56] *slackbuild [14:57] sahilsk: because it is part of slackware? [14:57] nope [14:58] i have just finish installing netbean, and it ask for jdk ,when it run [14:58] *sigh* [14:58] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ukkdlisdnyiftozb) left irc: [14:58] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/extra/jdk-6/ [14:58] Avalloc (n=_@port-10272.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Connection reset by peer [14:58] sahilsk: you can now offer your apologies for being farkling wrong. [14:59] damn! i think the guy that makes DeVeDe deleted all the older versions and only has 3.15.2 available which requires a newer version of gtk [14:59] davi` (n=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [14:59] BP{k}, plz accept my apology [14:59] But it was netbean that make me say so [15:00] sahilsk: I don't care. You should know better than to trust silly applications. [15:00] BP{k}, NETBEAN , silly, [15:01] goarilla: i asked about the freenode issues cause after I fixed some portforward rules at my router.. the connection become awesome(with freenode) [15:01] man, you have no idea what you saying [15:01] sahilsk: neither have you by the way you claimed jdk wasn't in slackware. :) [15:01] try the one from slackbuild http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/devede/ version 3.11b [15:01] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:01] cybErpunk (n=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:02] Pig_Pen: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DeVeDe/old-versions#download [15:02] BP{k}, yes, you can say that for me but NOT FOR NETBEAN, afterall, my whole work depend on it . :/ [15:02] cool! thanks alienBOB [15:02] djustice (n=kde@cablepool5-237.elberton.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] i prefer spongebob [15:02] :P [15:03] sahilsk: you mean "netbeans" right .. not netbean? ;) [15:03] His memory is like a sponge apparently [15:04] BOB, true [15:04] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [15:04] netbeans IDE [15:04] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [15:04] In the fft test, -mtune set for an i686 or higher CPU yielded 100ms faster times on average than pentium-mmx and below. [15:04] -mtune for i386, i486 and any pentium4 option raises average time by 300ms. [15:05] i686 and later -mtune options yielded slightly faster times. [15:05] devede-3.13.1 works! [15:06] Pig_Pen: What version of slack are u using? [15:06] elliot98 (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [15:06] Time between fastest and slowest time for -march=core2 was 2.02 and 2.61, which is quite significant. [15:06] hello All! I need to make alias gvim="gvim --servername GVIM --remote-silent" . I have created file /etc/profile.d/gvim.sh and added to it this text, but there's no effect. In what am i wrong? [15:07] nulll (n=matt@c-69-250-120-134.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] BP{k}, [15:07] The JDK is missing and is required to run some NetBeans module [15:07] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:07] initself (n=initself@ip72-194-114-43.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] netbeans show me that msg [15:08] nulll (n=matt@c-69-250-120-134.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:08] ccfreak2k: -mtune=pentium4 slows it down vs mtune=i686 [15:08] Yes, pentium4 tuning pushed it back. [15:08] No surprises there. [15:08] :) [15:08] But pentium pro tuning options are near the head of the pack. [15:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-30-150.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [15:09] hello All! I need to make alias gvim="gvim --servername GVIM --remote-silent" . I have created file /etc/profile.d/gvim.sh and added to it this text, but there's no effect. In what am i wrong? [15:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-30-150.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:10] as expected no ? [15:10] since p pro is also in order [15:10] and is/was the king of the hill of in order x86 intel cpu's [15:10] so? [15:11] I was under the impression that the pentium pro was out-of-order. [15:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:11] mrX__: slackware 13 [15:12] fili (n=fili@201.156.108.196) joined ##slackware. [15:12] ccfreak2k thi is interesting, can you explain what you're doing? [15:12] mrX__ (i=3fc7dba2@gateway/web/freenode/x-xamndvkzjuodfxhf) left irc: "Page closed" [15:12] dfrank: are other parts of /etc/profile.d sourced? [15:12] devede 3.15.2 wants a newer version of gtk, so i wanted an older version, i figure 3.13.1 should be old enough [15:13] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [15:13] mancha, I'm running tests with combinations of -march, -mtune and -mfpmath using a set of specific case benchmarks to see what combination yields the fastest results on an Intel Atom N270. [15:13] with avevola or something like that [15:13] It's a Core2 ISA compatible in-order CPU, which some suggest means having an -mtune of pentium would be the fastest, so I made this test to find out just how fast. [15:14] ISA == integrated S architecture ? [15:14] aha, interesting. any other tests, pentium4 say? [15:14] goarilla, means it can run anything the Core2 can. [15:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: No route to host [15:15] eviljames: yes, i just found the reason: there was no executable permission :-[ [15:15] no i mean what does ISA stand for [15:15] mancha, I haven't tested any other CPU because gcc already has march options for a lot. [15:15] ccfreak2k, that's an involved process... >.> why? lol [15:15] But Atom support was only added in gcc 4.5. [15:15] with Core 2 you mean all the extensions provided by core 2 arch ? [15:15] dfrank: ahh, that'll do it :P [15:15] sahilsk: What version of slackware are you running? [15:15] anyhow, bbl [15:15] goarilla, yes. [15:15] --j13 [15:15] i meant -march=pentium4 :) [15:15] 13 [15:15] define:ISA doesn't yield the expected result [15:15] mancha, I tested all combinations. [15:16] sahilsk: 32bit or 64bits? [15:16] i read fft above, did you use benchfft? [15:16] the only ones I didn't were pre-pentium3 with -mfpmath=sse, since it doesn't generate sse instructions in those cases anyway. [15:16] 32bit [15:16] mancha, it's one of acovea's tests called fft which is a...simple fft. [15:16] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.210) left irc: "Leaving" [15:16] "Uses a Fast Fourier Transform to multiply two very (very) large polynomials; tests the C99 _Complex type and basic floating-point math. " [15:16] sahilsk: which version of JDK did you install? ( echo /var/log/package/jdk* ) [15:17] ccfreak2k: you're basically doing the work the GCC folks should be doing for their support of the atom no ? [15:17] finding out the optimal -mtune=atom flags [15:17] goarilla, maybe, maybe not. Some Intel guys put Atom support in, so I would assume they know all there is to know about it. [15:17] still they might be interested [15:17] ccfreak2k ok, interesting. thanks for explaining. [15:18] jdk 6 [15:18] BP{k}, [15:18] fili (n=fili@201.156.108.196) left irc: "leaving" [15:18] sahilsk: no. I am pretty sure that is not the answer. Please copy and paste the *EXACT* output of the command I gave you. [15:19] goarilla, that's what the author of acovea did with the Pentium 4 and Opteron, and in the case of the Opteron, the alma test identified a 57% improvement in the -On flags. [15:19] The Pentium 4 was pretty much at the edge of terminal optimization in his version of gcc by that point, though. [15:19] sahilsk: oops. make that "echo /var/log/packages/jdk*" [15:20] Action: straterra shoots the P4 [15:20] Action: macavity secconds [15:20] BP{k}, what you expect from this command. [15:20] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:20] asamoah_ (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [15:21] sahilsk: a non error output :P [15:21] echo /var/log/packages/jdk* [15:21] sahilsk: a non error output [15:21] Anyway, this test aims to find out "based on the theory, does -march=core2 -mtune=pentium really yield the most optimal code for an Intel Atom?" [15:21] raelaa (n=raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:21] /var/log/packages/jdk* [15:21] this is what i am getting in the terminal [15:21] sahilsk: then you haven't got the jdk installed. [15:22] jdk is in extra/ [15:22] ok, but you said it's in the Slackware [15:22] BP{k}, [15:22] Yes [15:22] ccfreak2k and is the result, yes? [15:22] it is.. in extra/ [15:22] Also part of Slackware is the /extra directory [15:22] sahilsk: it's in extra. That doesn't mean it is installed [15:22] ok. then how can i make it install? [15:22] dear $DEITY .. I really hope your boss isn't seeing this sahilsk :P [15:22] :D [15:22] lol [15:22] I recently installed 13.0 on my toshiba satellite m60 (it had 12.1 previously). it used to be that I couldn't scroll with my touchpad, but tapping it clicked - now the right side scrolls, but tapping won't click it. is there a way to make it how it was before? [15:23] hey dont' insult me [15:23] mancha, I'm still testing. I've completed alma, dist, evo and fft, and huff is cooking right now. [15:23] sahilsk: slackpkg(8), installpkg(8), wget(1) or spend some time reading Chapter 18 of http://slackbook.org [15:23] lin and mat1 remain. [15:23] sahilsk: I haven't even begun insulting you. [15:23] ccfreak, i see. [15:23] so please install it by mounting your DVD, cd to, for instance, /media/Slackware-13.0/extra/ and find the package [15:23] again you , insult me again.' [15:23] I'm also trying to make a page for people to look at the results and filter. [15:24] sahilsk: you are supposed to read www.slackbook.org for the very basic stuff like how to install and remove software... [15:24] hellokitty (n=hellokit@97-127-222-28.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] exacty [15:24] chapter 18 [15:24] bring it on [15:24] so you know what a package is? and you know how to install it? [15:25] in ubuntu it was easy. :( [15:25] Indeed [15:25] but Slackware is not Ubuntu . [15:25] In Slackware it is easy as well [15:25] calling installpkg on a package file is not exactly hard... [15:26] ccfreak2k: does acovea still compile on recent slackware versions? Last release I see is from 2005 [15:26] BP{k}: insult him [15:26] installpkg jdk*.t?z [15:26] alienBOB, c'mon , you can't be serious. [15:26] I am [15:26] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@78.110.111.133) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]" [15:26] sahilsk: so, we tell you that jdk is in the directory called extra [15:26] ..."easy as well... [15:26] pprkut, yes, it does, and it runs just fune. [15:26] A child could do it [15:26] interesting. You don't see that often [15:26] sahilsk: that means relative to the base dir of your slackware DVD (or local ftp mirror) [15:26] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:26] However, the config files are outdated, so the CFLAGS would have to be updated. [15:26] ok [15:26] That's a run-time config thing, though. [15:27] ccfreak2k: that's expected, yeah [15:27] ccfreak, is the command line version also in the "gtk" names app? i see a libacovea with nothing referencing a need for it [15:27] mancha, I'm not sure. I just know that I got runacovea to run. [15:27] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "lalala caindo fora" [15:29] StevenR (n=foo@mail.sghs.org.uk) left irc: "leaving" [15:29] StevenR (n=foo@mail.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:34] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:36] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.158.88) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:38] BP{k}, i just read the chapter 18 of slackbook [15:38] willl anyoone here tell me,where to find the /extra directory [15:38] sahilsk: on your install media, on any official slackware mirror. [15:40] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.10.246) joined ##slackware. [15:40] BP{k}, on my install media [15:40] sahilsk: i just did [15:40] 30 < macavity> sahilsk: that means relative to the base dir of your slackware DVD (or local ftp mirror) [15:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [15:41] eg, /mnt/dvd/extra/ [15:41] or where ever you mounted it [15:41] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: "leaving" [15:41] ok, let me insert the dvd first [15:41] sahilsk: I am also more and more coming to the conclusion that you really need to read this: http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [15:42] BP{k}: justified but harsh nonetheless [15:42] goarilla: how the hell is that harsh? [15:43] it's the same as RTFM [15:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.23) left irc: [15:44] goarilla: Since you weren't paying attention, I already pointed out a possible mirror (granted that was for slackware64 instead of slackware), macavity already told him about the DVD option. [15:44] BP{k}, nice article. such people should be banned from irc channel. wasting precious time of ours. [15:44] .. [15:44] sahilsk: yes .. gtfo ;) [15:44] hehehehehe [15:44] i hope ,you are not poiting at me. [15:44] *pointing [15:44] sahilsk: yes, I actually am. [15:45] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.5) joined ##slackware. [15:45] good joke [15:45] :D [15:45] goarilla: and since when is reading the manuals /and the linkks in the topic a bad thing? [15:45] sahilsk: this is what happens when you venture into a veteran distro and expect people to do your homework for you :P [15:46] nobody has read all the manuals [15:46] goarilla, no. but they read them when they need them [15:46] c'mon.. there are other distro too. [15:46] instead of asking you to read them [15:46] why people ask so many stupid dumb question only in this channel [15:47] Everybody was a slackware noob once, remember. Just grow up fast sahilsk... we point to information but rather not spoonfeed it [15:47] bcoz it's not so easy as it appear from a perpective of a vaterans like you [15:47] alienBOB++ [15:47] read read read [15:47] sahilsk: we were all noobs once ;-) [15:47] alienBlurb, whole net is full of article posted by you on variosu distro specially on slackwar. [15:48] sahilsk: it is entirely OK to ask your questions here. But repetition would show that you are not learning [15:48] sahilsk: and those that are still around after several years were the ones that chewed up as many manuals as they could come by :P [15:48] Also goarilla [15:48] ISA is "instruction set architecture". [15:48] In this context. [15:48] yes [15:48] that's what i was looking for [15:48] keep forgetting it which is kinda sad [15:48] thank you [15:49] sahilsk: an article on various distros? I write only about Slackware [15:49] But slackware is not UBUNTU.. right [15:49] lol [15:49] it's not any harder than ubuntu either [15:49] this may sound pretty odd.. but slackware is a lot easier than ubuntu... once you gain the clear overview of the system [15:49] its in misc/acronyms now :D [15:50] but getting a full overview of the system means reading and exploring [15:50] and it means getting *very* comfortable at the command line [15:50] (hint: ktouch teaches touch typing) [15:50] my old black & white television is broken! http://imagebin.org/78303 [15:50] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "leaving" [15:51] s/broken/displaying a test signal/ [15:52] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0F782.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Pig_Pen: maybe it's psychosomatic, but when I look at that, I hear this ringing in my ears [15:52] (morning people) [15:52] lol [15:52] hello Urchlay [15:52] hi Urchlay. macavity [15:53] sahilsk, "installpkg package.tgz" isn't hard IMO. [15:53] Except for someone who doesn't understand terminals I guess. [15:54] ccfreak2k, noo [15:54] i have read the chapter 18 [15:54] heh, I actually tried to help a guy install ubuntu on his creaky old PC last night, waste of time [15:54] and i am using pkgtool [15:54] :/ [15:54] Urchlay, what manner of PC creaks? [15:54] sahilsk, pkgtool is alright, but not strictly necessary. [15:54] Urchlay, it was n't waste of time [15:54] macavity, Thanks for helping yesterday with the wlan setup. [15:55] It's pretty much just a wrapper for installpkg/upgradepkg/removepkg. [15:55] afterall,you have helped a guy. [15:55] one with a fan that has a bad bearing, I guess... [15:55] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] ccfreak2k, thanks, for telling us. i really appreciate. very usefull to a lazy like me. [15:56] pkgtool==installpkg|upgradepkg|removepkg [15:56] sahilsk: well, ubuntu is installed, it boots up, you can mess with the desktop for a few minutes, then it freezes with no indication of what's wrong (keyboard numlock/capslock lights don't respond, etc) [15:56] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:56] I have a complete install of Slackware. Now I want to burn an ISO image to a CD and cannot find any application in xfce. Any suggestions how to burn an ISO image in SL13? [15:57] sahilsk: for you, we added slackpkg to the distro [15:57] I do believe it's running out of memory (think he's got 256MB, I gave him 500MB of swap), but apparently ubuntu's kernel doesn't do the OOM-killer thing [15:57] Edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and uncomment ONE (no more) mirror of your Slackware version which you think will be fast for you [15:58] k [15:58] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [15:58] "think" he's got 256MB because I never was able to successfully launch a gnome-terminal and type "df" [15:58] sahilsk: then run "slackpkg update" which will download package lists and changelogs. Then run "slackpkg search jdk" [15:58] so tonight or tomorrow, he's getting slackware [15:59] lol Urchlay that's just nasty [15:59] kleanchap: you're wellcome [15:59] patches that fuck up the OOM [15:59] kleanchap: either commandline tools, or find and install xfburn [16:00] kleanchap: it is always a pleaseure to help someone who can work out the minor details on their own [16:00] Unless you also have KDE installed kleanchap in which case there is k3b [16:00] i love k3b it just works [16:00] goarilla: yeah. I might be wrong, I'm just guessing because there's no way I can find to get any diagnostics [16:00] Urchlay, can you ssh in? [16:00] sysrq ? [16:00] alienBOB, I do have KDE. I will look for k3b.... [16:00] increase the kernel logging [16:01] make syslog log to the console ? [16:01] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0F782.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [16:01] aah but ubuntu probably uses a 'NEW' syslog that works very differently [16:01] ccfreak2k: no, because his cheezy USB wireles requires ndiswrapper (which ain't installed by default)... [16:01] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:6f) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] macavity, wlan setup on older HW is a beast. My Slackware skills have eroded over the last few years. [16:02] kleanchap: time to get in shape then :P [16:02] lol an ipv6 address [16:02] :-) [16:03] goarilla: if it were really critically important, I probably could figure out a way to fix this ubuntu install. But the guy knows zilch about Linux, he doesn't really care which one he gets, so he gets slackware [16:04] (only reason we tried ubuntu was he heard somewhere it's easy to use) [16:05] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.76.59) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] i hear OpenSuSE is not entirely bad (for an rpm based distro) [16:05] but i really dont bother with anything else than slackware anymore [16:05] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:05] I suspect anything that isn't highly tweakable, is going to be bad on this old piece of crap. [16:06] i suspect that any distro that fights my will just the tiniest bit will get the boot in a blink of an eye [16:07] that IS why i bother with manual dependency tracking and editor based configuration :P [16:07] heh - computer software that fights your will - what a concept [16:08] rk4n3: dpkg is one such tool [16:08] rk4n3: edit xorg.conf by hand and it will over write it as soon as it gets the chance [16:08] there's a certain amount of dark humor in the fact that we supposedly use all this computer stuff to make our work easier, yet end up fighting so much of the way with it [16:09] rk4n3: s/easier/more fun/ as far as I am concerned [16:10] yeah, I want the computer to be like Darth Vader in Empire Strikes Back.. "What is thy bidding, my master?" [16:10] hehhehehe [16:10] we'll never see those days [16:10] alienBOB: yeah, I get what you mean - it *is* fun for us techie-types to muck around with computers... but then again, I'm sure we've all had those "tear your hair out" moments - odd notion of fun :) [16:11] thinkingcapon (n=thinking@h207.55.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] figuratively speaking, I mean: I *hate* talking computers [16:11] alienBOB, the slackpkg search "PkG". can i install the pacakges with slackpkg [16:11] yeah but out of utter frustations sometimes comes utter brilliance and a mega feeling of accomplishment [16:11] talking is a horrendous interface [16:12] anyone that is married can tell you that [16:12] i have a question would you like some toast :D [16:12] nice :) [16:12] goarilla++; [16:12] sahilsk: yes [16:12] computers with personalities [16:12] Action: goarilla shivers [16:12] but it show nothing for APTANA [16:12] ide. [16:13] Indeed. Because _that_ is not part of Slackware [16:14] And slackpkg only works for official Slackware packages, i.e. everything on a Slackware DVD [16:14] + the occational security patches [16:14] ok [16:14] sahilsk: on sbopkg.org you can find a frontend for www.slackbuilds.org that works much the same as slackpkg [16:15] goarilla: if my computer had a personality, it'd probably be Marvin the Paranoid Android [16:15] macavity, i already dowloaded it. but for some reason it has stopped working [16:16] everytime i try to install , it's no file /direcoty found [16:16] try and resync [16:16] it show me the similar message for NETBEAN and skype. [16:16] However, sbopkg is a tool that helps you _build_ packages from source code. [16:16] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] hitchhikers guide ? [16:17] sahilsk: are you using the menu driven interface? [16:17] sbopkg, , i thought it's used only to install packages availale @ slackbuild [16:17] sahilsk: eg, just type "sbopkg" and use the menus? [16:17] macavity, yes [16:17] yes [16:17] i only saw the movie but wasn't he the depressed robot* [16:17] macavity, anything wrong with that? [16:18] it is beyond me how you managed to break it then [16:18] no, not at all [16:18] Why is Slackware not finding my DVD drive? [16:18] kleanchap: are you sure it is not? [16:18] kleanchap: it doesnt automount [16:18] or perhaps, bcoz of ur USER grups [16:18] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:18] The CD burning tools say "Cannot access drive(might be in use)" [16:19] goarilla: yah. He was depressed, but the other characters called him paranoid [16:19] kleanchap: strange [16:19] I put in a blank CD that's it. [16:19] kleanchap: whats the output of "groups" for your regular user? [16:19] or are you burning as root? [16:20] users [16:20] that's it? [16:20] then you didnt read the help when you ran adduser [16:20] Burning as a regular user. Not as root. [16:20] users floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power netdev [16:21] ^^ mine [16:21] If I do change now, that means I got to log off. :-| Darn. [16:22] for i in floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power netdev; do gpasswd -a kleanchap $i; done [16:22] Thanks for pointing this out. [16:22] replace kleanchap with your real account name :P [16:22] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:24] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:24] actually the cudos goes to sahilsk this time :-) [16:24] i always take for granted that people read the onscreen instructions when running an interactive app [16:24] i hates cudos... whatever they are, but i do like biscut [16:24] (yes, i know, i'm an idiot when it comes to that) [16:25] sahilsk: cudos means "thumbs up" or something like that [16:25] bbl. [16:25] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [16:25] :D [16:25] its kudos [16:25] kb3 is better than kde? [16:26] hell yeah! [16:26] sahk0: thx [16:26] (yes, i know, i'm an idiot when it comes to that) [16:26] sahilsk: for thinking that people read what is on the screen [16:26] i *always* forget that people *refuse* to read the answers right infront of them ;-) [16:27] They are addicted to ... [16:27] comfort. [16:27] what is more comforting than *knowing* you are doing the right thing? [16:28] people just don't learn to read any more [16:28] ... knowing because you read and understood what was on the screen [16:28] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:28] Urchlay: http://www.rif.org/ ;-) [16:28] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:28] I know a guy who loves japanese stuff, but can't watch anime with subtitles because he can't read fast enough [16:28] lol [16:29] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:29] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [16:29] tooly (n=tooly@e178150225.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [16:29] I tried to show him something or another, he kept yelling "pause it!" [16:32] i have been selected for an internship as an admin assistant, Hooray! [16:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:33] now the real learning begins [16:33] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: Client Quit [16:34] congratulations and good luck [16:34] whats an internship? sound kinky and like something involving liquid exchange [16:34] and cigars [16:35] as long as it pays... [16:35] :D [16:35] heheehhehehe [16:35] sahk0: "test-working" [16:35] what kind of admin stuff thinkingcapon [16:35] thanks. its better than not working at all i guess [16:36] i would rather not work than work right now [16:36] i can't find apache server in the dvd [16:36] sahk0: It's in most cases related to some sort of education. I had to do one for my Bachelor degree [16:36] nor in the slackbuild. [16:36] httpd sahilsk [16:37] they had several other applicants who were familiar with ubuntu, but this company runs BSD so Slackware got me the job [16:37] pprkut: oh right , wikipedia mentions apprenticeship [16:37] probably in the n series [16:37] hheheheehe [16:37] is it an IS [16:37] ISP* [16:37] goarilla, it reply :httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName [16:37] " [16:37] thinkingcapon: Pat wants a % of your first paycheck :p [16:38] no, an online educational and certification service [16:38] thats normal [16:38] raelaa (n=raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:38] and he shall have it! hail Volkerding!2 [16:38] you need a FQDN [16:39] me? fqdn? [16:39] sahilsk: it is called httpd [16:39] fully qualified .... [16:39] oh, too quick [16:39] never mind [16:39] domain name [16:39] Axtroz (n=axtroz@77.78.15.8) left irc: "Leaving" [16:39] hhehehehe [16:39] it wasn't trivia thinkingcapon [16:39] wth due respect , so?? [16:40] is it running sahilsk [16:40] pgrep -l httpd [16:40] can you firefox http://localhost:80 [16:40] it should be running [16:40] is said it would.... [16:40] "using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName [16:40] " [16:40] i'yes probably it is [16:40] it works [16:41] but i'm not 100% it was not a fatal error [16:41] only 99.9 [16:41] sahilsk: please promise me that you dont point that thing at the real internet, ok? [16:41] actually, i need to give it's path in the netbeans. [16:41] so, what should it be? [16:41] localhost/ [16:41] or local_ip/ [16:42] server location? [16:42] Action: macavity stands back [16:42] i have fortunately never had to deal with netbeans [16:42] yeah me neither [16:42] ran it once or twice [16:42] netbeans is nice [16:42] hated it [16:42] sahilsk: doesnt netbeans have a help menu? [16:42] lol [16:42] so slooo ooo oooo ooooooooooow and bloated [16:42] its not [16:43] seen lots worse [16:43] ... it does have [16:43] oh no [16:43] C00re: you like java [16:43] nah [16:43] hate it [16:43] sahilsk: consult it.. as if you can get help with netbeans here it is because you are lucky (since it is not part of slackware) [16:43] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:43] isn't netbeans java ? or is that eclipse [16:43] asamoah_ (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] its not only java [16:44] it's more than java [16:44] neither nb or ec [16:44] i'm not talking about the languages the IDE support [16:44] php,ruby,python, c ,may be qt too [16:44] i'm talking about in what the IDE is written [16:44] netbeans vs. eclipse is almost as epic as vi vs. emacs [16:44] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:44] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:46] macavity, actually , it ask for : . Specifies the Tomcat installation directory on your local system [16:46] pprkut: but i am speeshul.. so i dont use any of those :P [16:47] sahilsk: if you say so.. [16:47] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [16:47] grep httpd.conf for DocumentRoot and a few lines above or below it [16:47] i think it's [16:47] /srv/www/htdocs/ [16:47] grep -A10 -B10 DocomentRoot [16:48] but you would better start a new root [16:48] edit it with netbeans/eclipse whatever [16:48] and then change the lines in the apache config file (httpd.conf) [16:48] nvision (n=nvision@e179128037.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:49] because you'll be editing a default DocumentRoot [16:49] delivered by apache itself and which provides you with ... html help stuff [16:49] the default root contains the documentation for apache itself [16:49] if you do localhost:80/manual/ in firefox [16:50] you'll see [16:50] what i mean [16:50] k [16:50] macavity: I wouldn't either, but eclipse is obligatory for some of my courses :( [16:51] varicel1a (n=varicell@99-59-107-94.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] pprkut: oh man... want to loan a gun? [16:52] Hey guys.. My gtk can't render PNG images [16:52] I have gtk2 and libpng installed, can't figure out what else it could be. [16:53] then convert them all to jpegs :D [16:53] goarilla, sounds roundabout method of fixing.. [16:53] varicella, how do you know? symptom please [16:53] all icons are replaced by red X [16:53] is probably an X problem [16:53] i dont think so [16:54] c0s (n=sys@151.65.151.183) joined ##slackware. [16:54] also messages like this: Failed to load pixbuf file: /usr/share/gslapt/pixmaps/pkg_action_available.png: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/gslapt/pixmaps/pkg_action_available.png' [16:54] your mime could be screwed up [16:54] stop it! [16:54] gslapt? [16:54] what ? [16:54] macavity, just a random app [16:55] same thing happens for everything gtk-- firefox, gedit, whatever [16:55] when did it first start exhibiting this problem? [16:55] This is a new install [16:55] varicwella id this happen after a n update to -cutrent? [16:55] and, did you do a full install? [16:56] I left the entire L out thinking I would just install dependencies as needed.. this one isn't so obvious though [16:56] hah [16:56] ;p [16:56] L is where the libs live [16:56] oh, suit yourself then [16:56] lol [16:56] hmmm [16:57] update-mime-database complained about libxml [16:57] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:57] so now I have that.. [16:57] hello [16:57] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:57] i need help with install yum on centos 5.3 [16:57] c0s: this is slackware [16:57] GO AWAY [16:57] varicel1a: readelf -a /usr/lib/libpng.so | grep NEEDED [16:58] varicel1a: etc etc [16:58] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-006-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:58] hmmm brb restarting x [16:58] varicel1a: untill you find out which lib is listed as NEEDED but you dont have [16:58] varicel1a (n=varicell@99-59-107-94.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] debugging your library needs piecemeal is more work than what's stated in my labor contract [16:58] c0s: centos has their own support channel ---> #centos [16:58] mancha: i have a script that combs the entire system :P [16:59] varicella (n=varicell@99-59-107-94.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] macavity: nah. I'm not one who gives up that easily. It's just for a few months. Then however I won't ever touch it again! [16:59] yeahhhh I got it [16:59] update-mime-database was failing because I needed libxml [16:59] pprkut, mancha, goarilla, here's my results so far: http://glasnost.us/~ccfreak2k/atomtest.php [16:59] >_< [16:59] Action: macavity gibslaps varicella [16:59] this may seem like a dumb idea. because it is. but, less disk usage [17:00] varicella: are you sure you wont be better off with Arch? [17:00] I was on arch [17:00] it was too slow [17:00] And don't think you can do any fancy SQL attacks; the user the query runs as can only SELECT in this db. :) [17:00] >_< [17:00] I will do my own damn dependency resolution! [17:00] Arch is quite a bit faster then Slackware in many regards [17:00] :D [17:00] well it was taking 5 seconds to load firefox [17:01] mostly because of -march=i686 vs -march=i486 -mtune=i686 [17:01] some combination of the video driver/x was screwy [17:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-11.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] I knew slack would be more stable. [17:01] intel grephics? [17:01] yeah [17:02] the combo that 13.0 shipped with is broken for a lot of users [17:02] i had to upgrade the whole stack on my laptop [17:02] im running -current [17:02] why are you guys pushing people towards arch now? [17:02] that kinda defies moving to slackware for stability :P [17:03] slack -current is stabler than arch regular imo [17:03] varicella, we're not :p [17:03] mmk [17:03] good [17:03] thinkingcapon (n=thinking@h207.55.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:03] varicella: intel drivers being "broken" on 13.0 is somewhat incorrect. [17:04] Alan_Hicks: negatory... several people had trouble with it (even on 945 like mine) [17:04] The new intel driver published by upstream was broken for a lot of users when 13.0 was being shipped, but older drivers were included in /extra for those folks who needed 'em. [17:04] c0s (n=sys@151.65.151.183) left ##slackware. [17:05] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslc-082-082-086-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Alan_Hicks: the older ones didnt work very well either.. it wasnt properly fixed untill kernel .30 [17:05] Basically, intel fucked up the driver in a big way. Major changes were being made in X "under the hood" at the time. [17:05] Lotsa distros were hit by that, not just Slackware. [17:05] we can blame intel all we want but wasn't .30 out when 13 shipped? [17:05] The .30 kernel was also included, albeit in /testing. [17:05] Alan_Hicks: at which point the newer ones also in extra worked pretty well.. but things didnt get fully fixed untill mesa was upgraded [17:06] Alan_Hicks: i didnt say the error was slackware specific :P [17:06] does anyone here use a drop down terminal? [17:06] maybe people wanted the tasmanian devil [17:06] well, fwiw now my firefox starts in less than a second. [17:06] Reticenti: i use yakuake all the time [17:06] thats all i really cared about [17:06] mancha: .30 had just come out when 13.0 shipped. There were difficulties in migrating the whole OS to .30, so it was included as an optional package. [17:06] i guess i don't really buy the blame upstream argument. if you know upstream's 1.2.3 is broken then you don't ship 1.2.3, no? [17:06] macavity: how is it on system resources? [17:07] mancha: The problem there was the latest intel graphics cards were only supported by that latest intel driver. [17:07] macavity: oh, but it's for kde, what about xfce? [17:07] So the trade-off was "which GPUs do you want to work, older or newer?" [17:07] Reticenti: not the slightest bit heavier than xterm or konsole [17:07] Reticenti: dunno.. i dont use xfce [17:07] older* [17:07] so maybe it was the wrong time to release 13? dunno. you're right it's a tough call [17:07] it was a rough spot 13, i suppose [17:08] *rough spot for 13 [17:08] mancha: It is a tought call, and there are no "right" decisions there. [17:08] s/ght/gh/ [17:08] agreed [17:08] Alan_Hicks: i remember it all vividly.. and i am not saying that slackware goofed anything up.. i just stated that slackware 13 shipped with drivers that caused trouble for a lot of people [17:08] but nonetheless, it was a good release [17:08] macavity: Agreed. [17:08] Alan_Hicks: i just hope we don't move to pulseaudio quickly [17:09] goarilla: HAHAHAHAHAHA [17:09] it needs a lot of work [17:09] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:09] Alan_Hicks: actually i was part of the last minute testing sprint :P [17:09] doesn't PA just output to alsa anyways [17:09] ? [17:09] pulse audio... UGH!!! [17:09] Action: Necos stabs goarilla [17:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [17:09] if it ever works [17:09] it allows cool shit to happen [17:10] actuall [17:10] but ffs you included KDE 4.2.x which sucks anyway [17:10] somebody tell me [17:10] that's like saying ESD lol [17:10] why this xen server is still running debian for me [17:10] and also not really stable imho [17:10] it was my first xen test [17:10] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [17:10] i want to blow it up [17:10] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [17:10] my cell phone uses pulseaudio, actually. it is pretty cool. [17:11] somebody today wrote "the mouse pulsates like a ufo" (about a usb mouse, looked cool) i wanted to ask him how he knows a UFO pulsates [17:11] hahahaha [17:11] notifications fade the background music out, then back in. it makes it pretty easy on developers to know their sound apps will play nicely. [17:11] except that it probably promotes lazy programming :( [17:11] pulseaudio is yucky [17:12] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:12] i've been reading a lot of lkml propaganda and it's all alsa's fault ! :D [17:12] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: "Távozom" [17:12] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:12] hahahaha [17:13] varicella (n=varicell@99-59-107-94.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] if 4front would get off their asses and support more audio cards [17:13] lowkyalu2 (n=low@dslc-082-082-086-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] lowkyalu2 (n=low@dslc-082-082-086-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:13] who the hell also thinks the 'cleveland show' intro is a rip-off of the wuzzles intro [17:13] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:13] lowkyalu2 (n=low@dslc-082-082-086-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] same tune [17:13] lowkyalu2 (n=low@dslc-082-082-086-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:14] the cleveland show is blah, too much soapy storyline and not enough humor [17:14] heh [17:14] lowkyalu1 (n=low@dslc-082-082-086-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "zzzzt - gone" [17:14] yea [17:14] sucks [17:15] don't know it's the second time i watch it [17:15] i've seen them all [17:15] they suck [17:15] i've never even had the curiousity to watch that show [17:15] it's not as funny as family guy [17:15] heh [17:16] it's the same shit with a new paint job, and shittier writing [17:16] i been watching it a little out of the corner of my eye while doing other stuff, but it so far has not caught my attention with anything significant [17:17] The Cleveland Show ain't nothin' but a fuckin' PC spin-off of Family Guy. Has to suck. [17:17] Pig_Pen, why are you lying? your googly eye has always been pointing to the corner since that envelope and chicken incident [17:17] no likey family guy ?: [17:17] rk4n3, what the hell? go back down to my dungeon and finish coding [17:18] jeev: haha [17:18] heheheheeh [17:18] Who doesn't like Family Guy? Don't make me put my ban hat on! [17:19] http://glasnost.us/~ccfreak2k/atomtest.php?table=huff&where= Interesting result here. [17:19] Using -mtune=pentium4 was fast across the rest of the options. [17:19] quick, SQL attacks [17:19] Alan_Hicks: OH! I thought you didn't, meaning Cleveland must suck because its a spin off of FG [17:19] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [17:19] Action: rk4n3 <3 FG [17:19] lol [17:20] It has to suck because it's a PC spin-off. [17:20] aha [17:20] family guy was in a rot a long time [17:20] lots of spinoffs suck in both movie and TV series [17:20] ruth* [17:20] I think the biggest laugh my whole family ever had, including G'Ma and G [17:20] starting from season 3 i was sick of the 'like that time i' ... flashbacks [17:20] pa [17:21] was when Brian ate bubble gum and blew a bubble out his rear [17:21] i liked those flashback moments :P [17:21] its just hollywood wanting to cash in on sloppy seconds [17:21] doesn't -march=pentium4 add -mtune=pentium4 by default? [17:21] Well guys, it's Peanut-Butter-Jelly Time. Later. [17:21] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:21] later Alan_Hicks [17:21] sahilsk (n=sahilsk1@59.177.32.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:21] see ya Alan_Hicks [17:21] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [17:21] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [17:22] lol [17:22] fire|bird! [17:22] mancha, -march always implies -mtune with the same option by default except for generic and i686. [17:22] happy new year bud :) [17:22] -march also implies -msse and the like. [17:22] ccfreak, ok, that's what i thought [17:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Necos: thanks, same to you. Your holidays go well? [17:22] yes! [17:22] So yes, specifying both options the same is redundant. [17:22] http://www.flickr.com/photos/teddy_c/sets/72157623104661458/ <--- :) [17:22] you guys seen the family guy episode where the jewish doctor has a lasik eye commercial on tv? hahaha, would you pay $500? $700? $1000? HOW ABOUT $12 FOR LASIK [17:23] Necos: NICE! [17:23] damn Necos, im never gonna step foot on that beach again.. you probably left your cooties [17:24] oh jeev, remember the last time i talked to you on bbm? that was my friend doing that... and then the chick that was doing it said she wanted me to bone her >.> [17:24] Al Harrington's wacky waving inflatible arm flailing tubeman [17:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:24] *and then she (the friend msg'ing you) [17:24] lol Pig_Pen, that one was great! [17:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] gay [17:24] yea the flailing one is hilarious [17:25] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:25] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:25] she's a cute girl, but meh... the chick i'm dating now is taller and has better boobies :) [17:25] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.91.52) joined ##slackware. [17:25] what you mean, the girl in flickr was pretty big heh [17:25] Necos/jeev: we have ##slackware-offtopic *especially* for that kind of conversation :P [17:25] hahahaha [17:26] i'll take my chances until you could rat me out, i dont like the racist terrorist christian extremist channel owner so i left that channel [17:26] lol [17:26] makes us real christians look like idiots [17:26] jeev: you mean TwinReverb? [17:26] even though we are for believing something so fake ;D [17:26] yes macavity [17:27] ##slackware-offtopic is owened by eviljames [17:27] it was initially twinfagverb, i'm sure when he comes back from killing innocent muslims, he'll get oped again [17:27] ##slack-offtoic is depricated now.. and that one was owned by Twin [17:27] eviljames is a fun guy tho! [17:27] Necos, fun in a very gay way! [17:27] jeev: i can assure you he does not [17:28] does not what [17:28] komentarze_listy (n=komentar@unaffiliated/komentarze) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:28] jeev: get opped in ##slackware-offtopic [17:28] ok [17:28] i am 100% sure of it.. as that channel exist because we were tired of him [17:28] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.5) left irc: [17:28] lol [17:28] specifically because he just came in there out of blue nowhere and banned *you* [17:28] well, there you have it [17:28] komentarze_listy (n=komentar@unaffiliated/komentarze) joined ##slackware. [17:29] in fact, the very insident you speak about is what sparked the move [17:29] arcfide (n=arcfide@fl-76-2-117-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] macavity, he's a racist [17:29] i hope he dies in combat [17:29] i've never gotten in to an argument with TR, so not much i can say there [17:30] i hope the child who's father was shot by his partner comes back and burns him with hot coals [17:30] people like that dont deserve to walk [17:30] i'll be quiet now [17:30] jeev: i dont care what he is and how he dies.. he is not fit to weild power, hence he is not an op in ##slackware-offtopic :P [17:30] jeev, damn foolio, calm the fuck down >.> [17:30] Hrm, does anyone have a recommendation on screencasting software that works well on Slackware 13.0? [17:30] foolio, pf [17:30] what's "screencasting" ? [17:30] arcfide: like recordmydesktop? [17:30] damn it's snowing again [17:31] sunday sunday sunday [17:31] xvidcap [17:31] ... like, webex or something like that ? [17:31] it's old tho [17:31] macavity: Yes. [17:31] rk4n3: It's a recording of a desktop interaction. [17:32] isn't dimdim a popular webex-equivalent ? [17:32] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:32] nille_ (i=1000@c-83-233-249-176.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [17:32] macavity: Have you used recordmydesktop? [17:32] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] you mean, like camtasia? [17:33] arcfide: nope.. but from what i hear it is what people use [17:33] rk4n3: I want to record a simple Ogg movie with audio of my desktop interaction, to send to someone. [17:34] arcfide: ah, recordmydesktop should work - though I don't think Ogg is a movie format, is it ? [17:34] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Hrm, macavity, well, it appears that there is a SlackBuild for it already, so I might as well play with it. [17:34] ogv is [17:34] well its a container [17:34] rk4n3: ogg is a container format [17:34] Right. [17:34] Theora and Vorbis are the codecs. [17:35] ogg theora and ogg vorbis [17:35] aha [17:35] how would i save a single page of a pdf file into a pdf of its own? [17:35] arcfide: for that i think recordmydesktop would be fine [17:35] arcfide: slackbuilds.org has it [17:35] evince doesnt seem to have a feature for it [17:35] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.72.50) joined ##slackware. [17:35] arcfide, macavity, slackware64 has it in /extra even [17:35] icarus: look up pdftk [17:36] alienBOB: nice :-) [17:36] Deiz (n=swh@unaffiliated/deiz) joined ##slackware. [17:36] alienBOB: any chance we get it "back ported" for 13.1? [17:36] varicella (n=varicell@99-59-107-94.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] Other nice stuff coming up in a bit ..... [17:36] I love slackware. [17:37] alienBOB: cool [17:37] Have any of you encountered a device that's unable to be unmounted despite fuser revealing only kernel/mount as a user of said device? [17:37] sitwon: thanks [17:37] DeVeDe 3.13.1 still wont work in slack13 (only partly works) i had to use 3.11b (from the 12.2 slackbuild) [17:39] alienBOB: Oh, nice. [17:41] grazymax (n=grazymax@host17-155-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:41] alienBOB why isn't the /extra containing the same stuff for slackware and slackware64? [17:42] nille_: the /extra in slackware64 was added by me when we were still secretly developing the 64-bit port, just to have some nice apps available to play with (and give the others a reason to install my early versions of slackware64) [17:43] It also had ffmpeg flashplayer and vlc with all bells & whistles, but Pat decided that those could not stay :-) [17:43] Deiz you could try a lazy mount (-l) or a forceable mount (-f) [17:43] both have implications tho so read the man page about it [17:43] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: "Leaving" [17:43] Well, I solved my problem [17:44] I had a loopback device using a file on the device [17:44] ok thanks for the info. [17:44] fuser isn't always accurate as well imho [17:45] I've never bothered to learn lsof beyond -i [17:45] i would rather use lsof and grep for 'MAJOR,MINOR' in column number 6 [17:46] djustice (n=kde@cablepool5-237.elberton.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:49] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:49] dropedrobarri (n=dropedro@host182.190-231-159.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:51] masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:51] lol [17:51] i can understand flashplayer not staying and maybe even vlc because of libdvdecss or whatever it's called but ffmpeg ? [17:51] does anyone knows the 2 dirs i need for slackware 13.0 for xorg? I will do a wget off a fast server? [17:52] /x [17:52] Action: john_dee found a font to adore %) [17:52] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:53] jessica_alba.ttf :D [17:53] dropedrobarri (n=dropedro@host182.190-231-159.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Client Quit [17:53] besides the ghey arts & crafts type fonts there are basically three fonts, you have sans, serif and mono/fixed [17:53] hehe, yeah. sort of [17:55] Pig_Pen: this is second case [17:55] i think [17:55] and what is ghey? [17:55] for the console and x-terminals a fixed/mono font works best, graphical web browsers use what ever suits you [17:55] Action: john_dee smells homophobia? %) [17:55] no [17:55] i hoped so :D [17:55] i am no a homophobe [17:56] i dont care what two concenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom, its none of my business [17:56] like in "i hate two things in this world. nazis and niggers"? %) [17:57] s/nazis/racism [17:57] chuck56 (n=stu@66.7.171.116) joined ##slackware. [17:57] not me, i am a drunken irishman married to a chubby native american indian woman [17:58] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:58] keep a warm in the winter and shady in the summer ;p [17:59] it got quiet in here, i guess most everyone is eating supper, i have a ribeye steak i am thinking about broiling (too cold to start the grill) [18:01] New updates for -current are out [18:01] hasnt hit my mirror yet :P [18:02] not on osuosl :\ [18:02] poor ol' Pat's servers are probably getting hammered [18:02] komentar1e_listy (n=komentar@200-207-57-170.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:03] osuosl has them [18:04] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [18:04] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current/ChangeLog.txt [18:04] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [18:04] my bad, i was looking at 13's log [18:04] ouchie [18:04] lol Pig_Pen, i wanna see pics :P [18:05] chuck56 (n=stu@66.7.171.116) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:06] no!!! [18:07] she looked good when i married her, 12 years and two kids later have roughed her up a bit [18:08] komentar2e_listy (n=komentar@200-207-57-170.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:08] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:08] why is slackware the greatest distribution of linux EVER [18:08] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] because Pat is a mad scientist / genius [18:09] komentar1e_listy (n=komentar@200-207-57-170.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:09] komentar2e_listy (n=komentar@200-207-57-170.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:09] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] i wonder if mencoder or mplayer can change a mpg video to avi ? [18:11] mencoder can [18:11] mencoder should be able to do that I guess [18:11] dumpfile -something -something ~/file_name.avi [18:11] you lose quality [18:11] lol Pig_Pen :P [18:11] But Slackware's mencoder will not be able to create an mp3 audio track for the .avi . No idea actually what _does_ go into an avi container [18:11] it already makes my brother's PC wobble, it is a mpg encoded with h264 [18:12] anyway "an avi" doesn't really describe the video & audio encoding, it's a container format [18:12] she can still do some damage on the dance floor, i'm sure :P [18:12] you probably want xvid video and to leave the audio track as-is [18:12] Urchlay: yes, but not all formats are allowed in an avi container [18:12] she does damage to me often [18:12] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:13] However you are right with your suggestion I think [18:13] lol but i'm sure you like that you're getting any damage at all :P [18:13] yeah [18:14] Pig_Pen: if the video's resolution is huge, you probably want to also scale it down (keep the aspect ratio as-is though) [18:14] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [18:14] bump it down a notch [18:15] Pig_Pen is Emeril's nemesis [18:15] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.172.136.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:16] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:16] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [18:16] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: [18:19] hehe [18:19] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:19] :P [18:20] komentarze_listy (n=komentar@unaffiliated/komentarze) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:20] i need to figure out how to make more money without doing actual work... and no, geek squad members actually have to drive places >.> [18:21] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:21] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] you and me both! [18:22] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Necos, geek squadron requires you to be a salesman, not a linux user [18:22] yeah, that's the part about not doing any work that doesn't work out :P [18:22] i don't wanna sell anything [18:23] chuck56 (n=chuck56@66.7.171.116) joined ##slackware. [18:24] start a company, go bankrupt and collect government bailout, then escape to a carribian island [18:25] how do you collect government bailout ? [18:25] you have to be pale white and best friends with bush to get that [18:25] i have no idea, i do actual work when i need money [18:26] lol [18:26] i spent my pocket money for the winter, my usual job dont start until april or may [18:26] not safe for work.. http://img17.imageshack.us/i/redneck9472835dg3.jpg/ is that you Pig_Pen ? [18:27] haha [18:27] good thing i didn't look :P [18:27] it's not bad actually [18:27] just a naked redneck on the porch toilet.. what you say? a porch toilet ?? [18:27] 404 Not Found [18:27] http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3474/redneck9472835dg3.jpg [18:28] i do interier finish/trim carpentry (so far for the last few years) [18:28] candinho (n=candinho@201-43-120-71.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:28] candinho (n=candinho@201-43-120-71.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:28] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:29] Pig_Pen, stop lying. you're britney spears's hair dresser [18:29] lol [18:30] i am glad the work i chosen is seasonal, i am getting too old to work outside in the cold [18:31] are you a crab fisherman ? [18:31] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.72.50) left irc: "Leaving" [18:31] varicella (n=varicell@99-59-107-94.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:31] are you that little hick from that ship [18:31] the one with the mullet [18:32] http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/deadliestcatch/bios/gallery/hillstrand.jpg [18:32] naw, i am more like bob vila without the beard and TV show [18:33] you should be able to relate to that answer [18:35] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-136-252.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:36] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-136-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [18:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] Razec (i=1000@189-92-45-67.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:37] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:37] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [18:38] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:38] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.72.50) joined ##slackware. [18:39] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:44] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:44] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [18:44] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.7.67) joined ##slackware. [18:44] Dominian: ping [18:45] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [18:45] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:46] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:46] thumbs: pong [18:46] Good evening [18:46] Dominian: care to join #samba, or kline mou? [18:47] thumbs: what's up? You can PM me if you wish [18:47] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [18:47] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:48] bbender (n=bbender@64.212.175.249) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:53] Are there any free online monly pdf magazines about linux(slackware or general)? [18:53] varicella (n=varicell@99-59-107-94.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Dominian: nah, it's fine. He seems to have quiet down. [18:54] http://pastebin.ca/1738101 [18:55] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [18:55] can someone tell me what is wrong here [18:56] Dominian: thanks [18:56] aside from font issues there's a problem with i810 [18:58] have you tweaked this beyond the standard install? [18:58] masterx831, it looks like your video and input drivers are for a different version then your server [18:59] thumbs: hrm [18:59] thumbs: ok [19:00] well see ya :) [19:00] thumbs: I'll idle in there for a bit [19:00] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-136-252.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [19:00] yes it looks to me like i810 was taken from a newer xorg and placed there [19:00] thumbs: or not.. he left [19:01] upyr[ema` (n=user@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [19:01] all in all, i'd say a clusterfuck hack to xorg happened [19:01] dnsmasq is awsome!!! [19:01] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:02] so.. [19:03] once dnsmasq is running on a computer in a network [19:03] dose every other computer in the network need its address inside of /etc/resolve? [19:04] masterx831: line 92 does not look good either (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libtype1.so [19:05] but that may resolve when you get the video driver corrected in xorg.conf [19:06] X -configure then look in /root/xorg.conf.new to see if it is worth using, if it is copy as /etc/X11/xorg.conf [19:06] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [19:07] beatzz if that comp is going to be serving dns queries then yes, all the other need to have it in /etc/resolv.conf [19:07] beatzz, dnsmasq also does dhcp (in case you were unaware) [19:09] oh, im very aware [19:09] ;) [19:10] thats what brought me too it. [19:10] seems dnsmasq > dhcpd [19:10] so wait [19:10] your saying, the machine which will be running dnsmasq [19:11] needs its own ip address within its own /etc/resolve? [19:11] masterx831, i recommend re-installing your X and as a bit of advice, don't install components from 13.0's X on your 12.1 X [19:11] not shure about your answer there mancha. [19:11] beatzz if that comp is going to be serving dns queries then yes, all the other need to have it in /etc/resolv.conf [19:11] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:11] no [19:11] ohhh [19:11] gotcha [19:11] i get it [19:12] just needed to read it slower. [19:12] ;) thanks mancha [19:12] welcome [19:13] Alioth (i=alpha@identity.spoofed.us) joined ##slackware. [19:13] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [19:14] Alioth (i=alpha@identity.spoofed.us) left ##slackware. [19:15] Alioth (i=alpha@identity.spoofed.us) joined ##slackware. [19:15] Alioth (i=alpha@identity.spoofed.us) left ##slackware. [19:15] is that what he is doing? installing 13's X in to 12.1 ? [19:16] i'm quite certain that is what he did [19:17] varicella (n=varicell@unaffiliated/varicella) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:17] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.227.70) joined ##slackware. [19:17] that sounds like it could be the making of a mess [19:17] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:18] he did a hit&run question though and is not answering any follow-ups [19:18] note to self: don't bother with masterx831 in the future... [19:18] nvision (n=nvision@e179128037.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:20] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [19:21] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:22] Dominian: ok, in #postfix now. [19:29] macavity, see the new intel driver *requires* kms ? [19:29] null_space (n=null_spa@ip68-5-89-234.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [19:30] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [19:30] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:32] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:33] dolby43 (n=wIRCer@173.7.144.176) joined ##slackware. [19:33] dolby43 (n=wIRCer@173.7.144.176) left ##slackware. [19:34] Razec (i=1000@189-92-45-67.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] Yeah, intel is starting to break all backwards compatiblity. [19:35] leave it to the corporates to force everyone on that upgrade treadmill, if they can use software to force hardware upgrades they will do it [19:36] This move actually breaks the intel driver for all non-linux OSes that use Xorg. [19:37] Unless FreeBSD gets KMS shortly, the next Xorg update in ports will probably break Xorg for all intel users. [19:37] scrote (n=RahmboDe@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] i call that "The No Henry left behind" philosphy [19:37] hi [19:37] whats that command to invoke a kde message box ? [19:38] i think Linux should be more X agnostic, including gtk & qt & its apps, so if someone wants to build xfree86 in place of xorg it can easily be done [19:38] kdialog [19:38] ell [19:38] If a distro wants to do that..the maintainers can [19:39] upyr[ema` (n=user@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:40] Are there any free online monly pdf magazines about linux(slackware or general)? thanks, digging for days... cant find anything :( [19:40] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:42] what was that linux magazine in pdf format? linux format is the name or something like that [19:43] Pig_Pen any magazine about linux, that comes in pdf format monthy and that it is free so no paying every month 10$ [19:43] for example [19:44] ftp://ftp.linuxjournal.com/pub/tux/tux020.pdf [19:44] something like this [19:44] just to be alive and free [19:44] yeah, thats the one, but there so many magagiznes & ezines for free who in heck is going to pay for a damn magazine [19:45] linux journal [19:45] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.227.70) left irc: "Leaving" [19:45] linux ma [19:45] g [19:45] they are all paying... [19:45] :( [19:45] if that was 1-2$ mothly ok... but.. 8$ too much [19:45] for me... [19:45] i wont pay! to me this is just something to liberate me from windows, i wont let linux starts cutting in to my bread & butter i [19:46] :( [19:48] to heck with that noise, i got bills to pay too, i am not exactly young anymore either so starting over is not an easy task for me so i watch my piggybank, if i can get basically the same info free i will! [19:48] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] Pig_Pen: how do you get info, news, interesting thins about linux?? [19:49] i tell journalists and preachers that come knocking on my door the same thing, if you want money you better get a _real_ job [19:50] i been using Linux for almost 10 years so if there is anything significant about it changing the word will get out [19:50] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [19:50] Pig_Pen: how do you get info, news, interesting thins about linux? [19:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-30-150.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [19:52] how do i get info, news and interesting things about Linux? ever hear of changelog.txt? [19:52] hahaha Pig_Pen [19:52] get a real job [19:52] Pig_Pen, give me some motivation to dump this debian server [19:52] and install slack over it [19:52] ghetto ass xen ;D [19:54] jeev, it is entirely up to you, i cant tell you how to do your job [19:54] i'm lazy [19:54] brb, gotta go pick thrice`'s mom up from lindora [19:55] then start making plans and a strategy for switching it over to slackware so when it does go tits-up you can put a fresh clean slackware install on it without too much of a problem [19:55] two best things in 2009, my idols tiger woods and charlie sheen [19:55] Pig_Pen, there is nothing on it. it's an old ass weaker server at the datacenter.. [19:55] Shuren (n=Devilman@host70-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [19:55] the only important thing on it is my git server where i wrote some bullshit ass code but it's good enough to do the job [19:56] if it is not crucial and you can live without it for a few days then go for it, fdisk the hell out of it and put slackware on it