[00:00] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [00:00] DukeOfMilan (n=DukeOfMi@unaffiliated/dukeofmilan) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:00] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-6-216.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.32.32.15) left irc: "Leaving" [00:01] rworkman: seems to keep whining about "Not Allowed" - "The default encorder has to accept wav as input" [00:01] yes. [00:01] At least it's not just me. [00:01] rworkman: that will be good. i would like to move to hal-0.5.12 in the next release which will be for 13.0 since it is prolly fairly close now. [00:02] i regret burning the -currents as DVDs now 8-S [00:02] dtanner: well, 13.0 won't have the necessary stuff for 0.5.12; I was looking ahead to 13.1 [00:02] I see [00:02] You *can* ship 0.5.12rc1 though and get most of the benefits of 0.5.12 [00:03] (without the ornery parts) [00:03] noted [00:04] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [00:04] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE6239.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [00:06] rworkman, I didn't try it, never used it in kde3 either. [00:07] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-140-206.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] k [00:11] BP{k} told me what I needed to know [00:12] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [00:12] dtanner, still the same error i had after doing polkit .. invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume [00:13] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:14] VampirePenguin: what gnome are you using? [00:14] rworkman, right now i have a local mirror of slack 11,12.2,current, slack64.. can you thiink or any other goodie to add too it.. my hopeful ultimate coaol is to have a public mirror [00:14] I can only confirm it works on sw-12.2 with gware-K [00:15] Hello. Does anyone know how to enable the Video option in Power management and ACPI options-->ACPI Support in the kernel? [00:15] .26 [00:15] VampirePenguin: that is not the same error i was getting either. [00:15] this one just started [00:15] when i did polkit changes [00:16] you may have to change some lines in PolicyKit.conf too from what rworkman has informed me. although all I had to do was change the hal.conf here. [00:16] did you restart hald ? [00:16] i actually rebooted bc i didnt know what trips polkit [00:17] Nevermind. [00:17] Got it. [00:17] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:18] like i said , i can only confirm it works on gware-K(gnome for sw-12.2) there may be other things you have to change that I am not aware of in other builds of gnome. depending on versions of packages. [00:19] np this is a good step [00:19] VampirePenguin: what's the error message? [00:19] invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume [00:19] that doesn't sound like a polkit or hal issue to me [00:19] no not now [00:20] sounds like a perm [00:20] or bad switch [00:20] show the perms of your cd/dvd [00:20] if that is what you are trying to auto mount [00:20] this is on my eee.. so its usb/sd [00:20] and I am sure you are a member of cdrom and plugdev groups right ? [00:21] raelalkoira (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: "night all" [00:21] ya but i can double check [00:21] and you have granted access to usb drives in polkit ? [00:22] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:23] VampirePenguin: in gnome-mount, have you specified some custom mount options? [00:23] (or in whatever handles the automounting) [00:24] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [00:25] no [00:25] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.73.88) joined ##slackware. [00:25] I can't seem to get beep working in 64-current [00:25] Action: hiptobecubic wants to beep :( [00:27] Hey hiptobecubic, how's it going? [00:27] VampirePenguin: just curious... so the change you made to hal.conf changed your error message correct? you were getting this -> Cannot invoke CheckForMedia on HAL ? [00:27] fire|bird, not too bad, how about you? [00:27] fire|bird, i can't my beep to beep [00:27] hiptobecubic: doing excellent, thank you. [00:27] can't get& [00:27] good evening fire|bird [00:28] evening dtanner, how are you? [00:28] good good, thanks. and you? [00:28] doing excellent, thanks. :) [00:28] beep really isn't that complicated. I don't know what could be going on here. I'm not getting any errors. Just no sound. [00:29] hiptobecubic: beep in terminal ? make sure that pcspkr is not loaded. [00:29] nono.. taht invalid mout option showed up after the polkit changes and remained with the changes i did by hand on your pastebin... something else now is hanging [00:30] i see [00:30] its like a bad swtich in the mount command [00:30] dtanner, ahhh the pcspkr module [00:30] there we go [00:30] thats what i think [00:30] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:31] I swtched my locale to en_US.utf8 and NOW it's rendering characters improperly. :( [00:31] where is gnome-mount.. i typed in in on terminal but nothing popped up [00:32] rworkman, did u see my question abotu goodies on a mirror [00:32] /usr/bin/gnome-mount [00:33] hiptobecubic: I don't know that it matters or not, but mine is: en_US.UTF-8 [00:33] VampirePenguin: if you put 'bean soup' on a mirror, you get ,dnos ueaq, [00:33] UTF-8, yes that's what i meant. the + and - that show that you can scroll up and down in pkgtool are screwy [00:34] hiptobecubic: Hmm, they are fine here. :P [00:34] of course [00:34] hiptobecubic: which terminal are you using? [00:34] terminal [00:35] VampirePenguin: gnome-volume-manager and gnome-vfs use gnome-mount instead of invoking "mount/umount/eject" on HAL directly [00:35] hiptobecubic: Hmm, not sure what the issue would be there. [00:36] ya i was just looking at that in the man for gnome mount [00:36] htats where im going next [00:36] fire|bird, xterm doesn't have a problem, but rxvt does [00:39] rxvt doesn't support utf, rxvt-unicode (from SBo) does. [00:39] irad (n=irad@ip68-111-250-122.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] fire|bird, well i'm not trying to use rxvt anyway [00:40] it seems that xterm is the only thing that does it properly [00:40] that's odd [00:42] s/odd/lame [00:43] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [00:43] :) [00:44] Arenics (n=Administ@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "leaving" [00:45] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.39.244) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:51] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] whatsup all [00:51] cant sleep [00:51] <- blacksheep [00:53] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [00:55] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:55] campassi (n=linko47@pluto.cse.msstate.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:56] campassi (n=linko47@130.18.208.32) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Any of you have some news from slackbook 3.0 ? [00:59] its very tasty [00:59] it will exist some time after Slackware 13 [00:59] great :) [01:00] Slack 13 may be released in newt monthes ? [01:01] When it is Ready. (we love to say that because it is true) [01:01] its at rc1 [01:01] Yep, saw that ;) [01:01] soonish I suppose [01:01] Yep, i understand and agree slack philosophy :) [01:03] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [01:07] dtanner, houston we have lift off [01:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.73.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:08] VampirePenguin: \o/ :) [01:08] better than Houston we have a problem. [01:08] yes thats what i say... [01:09] VampirePenguin: what did you find ? [01:09] dtanner, was a big help in adding some changes taht i already had, plus the polkit app [01:10] what changes did you make besides hal.conf and granting access in polkit? [01:11] dtanner, in gconf > storage > drive > & > volumes there are folders for /dev/by/uuid.. those optins that were in those areas were not meshing with gvfs,gvm and hal [01:11] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:11] i just cleared the fields and restarted hal [01:11] now all my ports work sd and usb [01:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] they should make a tool to interface with hal called 'dave' [01:15] indeed [01:15] hehe [01:15] =) [01:15] Is Dave home? [01:15] haha, not that dave [01:15] Dave's not here [01:16] Hey Dave, is that you man? [01:16] we need some weed dude [01:16] Sir, what's your name? Uhh, isn't it on the licence man? [01:16] haha [01:16] Raaaaaaaaaaalph [01:16] melloooooooooow [01:17] raaaaaaraaaarrarararararar [01:17] i'm sorry, i cant do that dave [01:17] it would be a good distro name too [01:17] man, those 5-10 mins where he picked up chong was enough comedy to have the movie end right there [01:17] dave 2001 [01:17] Daisy, Daisy ... give me your answer ... true [01:18] SiegeX: sure was [01:18] VampirePenguin: in /etc/gconf/* ? [01:18] HAL, open the pod bay door. [01:18] hehe [01:18] send the chimp first! [01:21] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:21] Dave: I'm sorry, I can't do that [01:21] no no open up gconf with the gui thing on applications > system tools > config edit [01:21] gotcha [01:22] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:23] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] VampirePenguin: would you mind pastebin(ing) your PolicyKit.conf and hal.conf when you get a chance? [01:25] na na na na na na na na na na tj max [01:26] no singing of commercials allowed [01:26] I'd rather have two girls at 21 each than one girl at 42. -- W.C. Fields [01:28] i could barely handle one girl back in the days [01:28] (2 years ago) [01:28] i'm not super penis here, mine sinks after im done [01:31] wtf [01:32] ? 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I will be using M$ when I'm at my Dad's house in 2 days......***shudder*** [02:15] doing excellent, thanks. :) [02:16] Ugh, M$, you have my sympathy. :) [02:16] ty:) [02:16] yw :) [02:17] hitest: If you like music at all, have you ever heard of Hail The Villain? [02:17] confrey (n=dario@94.163.147.246) joined ##slackware. [02:19] rock music, sorry. [02:19] :P [02:19] No. I don't know that music. I will install x-chat for winders on my Dad's unit when I'm down there:) [02:19] nice, there ya go. :) [02:19] I love rock, btw [02:19] but [02:20] awesome. Hail The Villain is a canadian band that eviljames has got me hooked on now. [02:20] I'm older than you.......so older classic rock [02:20] :) [02:20] heh i went to the CKY tour day before yesterday [02:20] nice....I'll check it out:) [02:21] cool. They are really amazing, not sure if you'll like it, but I sure do. [02:21] I'll like it if it is rock [02:21] too bad Hail the Villain only performed bout 3 songs :( [02:21] hitest: yeah, it's rock. [02:22] awesome [02:22] their myspace page has all their songs.. [02:22] Shrp_: you like them too? [02:22] yeh i went to the CKY tour day before yesterday [02:22] awesome [02:22] too bad they only did 3 songs : [02:22] ( [02:22] hitest: www.myspace.com/hailthevillain [02:22] Shrp_: yeah, that sucks. [02:22] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:23] ty:) [02:23] click [02:24] but it was worth it.. had to drive ~150 miles [02:24] heh [02:24] one way :P [02:24] but it was worth it [02:24] CKY and Fall From Grace were awesome [02:26] hi people [02:26] Hi Thom1 [02:28] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [02:28] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:28] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:36] How does Pat decide what CA certificates get included? [02:36] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-137-138.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:43] nite all [02:44] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:44] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [02:46] MorgothBauglir (n=MorgothB@59.94.191.74) joined ##slackware. [02:46] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432125.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:48] billions and billions. [02:50] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl4-205-163.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:51] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl8-70-55.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:53] sad, those CA's have to pay him billions.. if antiwire was in charge, all they'd have to do was give him a reacharound. [02:54] I'd expect a double reach around...two handed service, nothing less. [02:54] lol bye [02:56] i'm going to start distributing slackbuild scripts written in php just to be a dick [02:57] arno (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:57] clank (n=clank@schwepps.shacknet.nu) joined ##slackware. [02:57] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:58] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:58] emacs or xemacs? [02:59] oh you! don't be silly. [02:59] Urchlay: ping [02:59] we all know the correct answer is vim [02:59] i need help pick :( [02:59] muhahaha [03:00] vim rox. i just need to see what i'm missing out on [03:00] MorgothBauglir: you're missing out on carpal tunnel [03:01] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] why does slackware by defautl mount a tmpfs at /dev/shm? [03:01] clank, fglrx requires it...the some other things may as well [03:02] MorgothBauglir, i use xemacs... [03:02] more features? [03:03] MorgothBauglir, no...when i type `emacs` xemacs runs, and i don't really like being bound to a terminal window...i could probably make it the same, but i think it would require a bit more work [03:03] i don't really use any X-only feature [03:04] if you must use emacs, run vim inside M-x term [03:04] lol [03:04] i see [03:05] i'm a nub at zeh emacs OR Xemacs, so i have to make a newbie choice [03:05] eddief (n=eddie@pool-141-157-215-212.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] nooby dooby doo! [03:06] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [03:06] MorgothBauglir, there is not much of a difference, though xemacs has the benifit of going directly to X for the keys, running it in a term can cause the term to get in the way of your key combos (ssh especially :( ) [03:07] Action: edman007 slaps clank [03:07] ah yes [03:07] eddief (n=eddie@pool-141-157-215-212.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:10] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) joined ##slackware. [03:13] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] when I have money I'm going to buy a bunch of solid state disks and put it in raid 0 so my virtual machines aren't so slow [03:14] clank, just buy huge amounts of ram [03:14] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [03:14] then you can put the entire VM in ram [03:16] hmmm... [03:16] that's actually a better idea probably [03:16] clank: you think? 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[05:08] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [05:14] Nick change: nooper_ -> nooper [05:14] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [05:15] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [05:21] jjnw (n=wibble@82-69-3-154.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:30] hey i can't get to certain resolution on a nvidia card, i tried editing xorg.conf file and different WM but no luck :| nvidia-settings doesn't work either [05:33] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:39] what do you mean by you tried to edit xorg.conf izap [05:40] installed the driver for your card? [05:40] have you installed the nvidia drivers or i think you can use the xorg nvidia drivers [05:41] the new xorg is auto genrating n the fly it needs no xorg.conf... however if there are special tweaks you can do it the old fashion way and add modelines adn reslutions [05:41] oh geez my typing [05:42] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:42] when installed my nvidia driver the installer wrote a xorg.conf [05:43] no tweaks needed for me [05:43] ok that must be in the script [05:43] xorg by itself , the new one wont use it [05:43] it doesnt even make one [05:44] i have intel.. no muss no fusss [05:44] you cannot use nvidia-settings if you dont have the card drivers..therefore i installed and re-installed them like ten times now ;P [05:44] though in talking with some users here... intel has some bugginess with the new X and kde 4.x plasmas [05:44] i reinstalled X i reinstalled slack totally [05:44] nothing works [05:45] and their stability or lack of it in my case [05:45] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.85.187.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [05:46] oh and i tried ubuntu as well same shit [05:46] what do the X.org.0 logs say [05:46] ie look for the EE lines and the errs [05:46] where can i find that file? [05:47] how new is your card [05:47] in /var is where all logs are usually kept [05:47] not new at all [05:47] has it been deprecated [05:47] some cards with the .30 kernel and new X lost compatiblity [05:48] the card worked before my pc did cold reboot [05:48] ok then what do the logs show [05:48] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:48] looking at them now [05:49] grep for EE [05:49] it will save some time [05:49] and reaading [05:50] i found a line it said its unable to read an EDID file [05:55] izap, it looks like you need to specify your horzontal and vertical sync rates.. for some reason there is a breakdown from your mointor to your video card to produce this information [05:55] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123674 [05:58] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:02] no [06:02] i need to get my edid file working ;p [06:02] and my sync rates are specified [06:02] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [06:03] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [06:04] edid is not a file [06:05] its a communication protocl between your monitor adn video card [06:06] well yes, i need to get a custom edid :> working on it now [06:06] your sync rates are specified but are they the rightonws for your monitor and what modelines are you using and color depths [06:08] everything is fine with colour depths and modelines i tried editing them adding them deleting them many times already [06:09] izap, problems with x resolutions ? [06:10] yeah, xorg logs says its unable to read edid [06:10] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-198-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:10] dunno edid [06:10] DeeeeP_, i gave him link from nv above on their fix [06:10] i used modelines in few machines , with success [06:10] but i fuess for him ther is something else goig on [06:12] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:13] nvidia already generated modelines by default i think [06:15] izap, if your xorg.conf file is manageable pastebin it and we can look at it [06:15] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:16] !pastebin [06:16] ggrrrr [06:16] pastie.org is fine [06:18] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.64.21) joined ##slackware. [06:18] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.64.21) left irc: Client Quit [06:20] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [06:23] john_dee (n=id@89.179.28.74) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [06:23] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [06:24] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:25] hey, i just recompiled my kernel but i cannot recompile the nvidia slackbuild from sbo [06:26] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [06:26] it says that the kernel configuration is invalid... missing include/linux/auto.conf... it says to run make oldconfig && make prepare on the source to fix it [06:26] did i miss a step in the kernel compile? [06:28] john_dee (n=id@89.179.28.74) joined ##slackware. [06:28] :) [06:30] anyone know? [06:30] zoran119, i know enough to be dangerous [06:30] those are 2 first steps in a compile [06:31] but i really cant help you any more than that [06:31] alien bob has a good doku on compiles [06:31] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-24-4.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [06:33] VampirePenguin: yeah... i followed his guide... [06:33] kk [06:33] VampirePenguin: he talkes about the prob that i have later down the page but i cannot figure it out.... [06:34] thats the best help i have in this area... i just dont watn you to feel like everyones ignoring you... its nice to have someone answer you [06:36] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) left irc: "leaving" [06:36] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [06:36] Sorry to bother, first time slackware user here. I'm about to start the install from DVD and would like to know if there is any suggested reading that I should first revue before diving in? [06:37] 12.2 install or current welanx [06:37] 12.2 [06:38] welanx: slackbook.org :) http://slackbook.org/html/index.html [06:38] its prettty straight forward really if youve installed linux before, ut havin anothe computer nearby with slackbuilbook.org is helpful [06:38] jinx [06:39] damn i need to go to bed i cant even understand my typing [06:39] *ppof* [06:39] thanks this is just what I needed [06:39] welanx: also the documents that interest you from http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/ might come handy. [06:40] those should be part of the DVD too [06:40] as far as packages go... do the kitchen sink..as you learn slack you can remove the cruft [06:41] i mean packages not source [06:42] my install with pratically everything a few wm/de, oo.o and texlive is 5.1 gb [06:42] for / [06:42] I can see now just from the responses I've gotten to just 1 question that this is going to be a much more helpful channel than those related to some other distros... [06:43] :) [06:43] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [06:43] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-088-111.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:43] slack is cool... theres an allure to it.. but u do need to reead and ask intellgent questions [06:43] I'm not new to linux just new to slackware [06:43] or phrik will get u [06:43] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.159.242) joined ##slackware. [06:44] though i can never seem to get that damn bot to do anything forme [06:44] lol [06:46] VampirePenguin: wrong channel [06:48] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:49] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [06:59] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-18-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:05] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [07:05] I shouldn't be allowed runing slack.. I ALWAYS forget to save the "make-file" .. =( ... Now I have find 1000's of files manually.. probably easier to just format and reinstall for scratch.. That's way stupid people like me should run ubuntu! [07:05] powtrix__ (n=powtrix@189-69-23-221.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:06] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [07:11] VampirePenguin: i am stuck again :-/ the method i found on buntu forums doesnt work [07:12] ill post a very detailed post on LQ maybe ill get some good answers there [07:12] cause i tried so many things already [07:16] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-24-4.singnet.com.sg) left ##slackware. [07:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.80) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:22] hi everybody [07:23] when i run a comman by the shell, the program runs, but when i use ALT F2 and the program name i got nothing ! [07:23] it concerns 2 programs i installed by myself ! [07:24] not for all programs fortunately :) [07:24] does someone have an idea how to solve that problem [07:26] the executive program is in the $PATH, i restarted but still nothing [07:26] i always need to run it by using a shell [07:27] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:27] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:28] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-138-26.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:28] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-132-167.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [07:30] paissad: does typing the full path to the program work? [07:34] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:36] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] no way! i don't believe 13 will be released with that fugly tuz logo! that's ridiculous! [07:44] you'll get tuz and you'll like it! [07:45] who is tuz? [07:46] v4nelle (n=van@78-106-230.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:46] that logo in the 2.6.29.x kernel [07:49] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [07:50] whaaa, what's that ugly animal? [07:50] Pig_Pen, we already got abysmal kde4. and this.. oh sh*t [07:51] akira42, it's tasmanian devil in hannabal lecter's mask [07:51] I want the penguin back [07:52] i will try kde4, if i dont like it i already plan on rolling my own qt338 & kde-3.5.10 [07:52] Pig_Pen, take my advice. DON'T. save you nerves and overall menatal health [07:52] Pig_Pen, so far, people are saying kde4 is not worth trying [07:52] at least not yet [07:53] mandriva made the mistake of going with kde4 in their 2009.0 and i hated it [07:53] Pig_Pen, i'm looking at it right now and it's... well...i'd rather not say that [07:53] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] their designer, if there was one, was on tranquilizers, barbiturates and alcohol all at the same time. i don't know what state of mind one have to be in to make...this [07:54] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:55] please tell me there are some eye candy themes for kde4 already [07:55] :\ [07:55] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:56] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:56] john_dee, well if you only want eye candy i think you'll be happy with it [07:56] switch_ (n=nobody@c-98-235-92-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:57] TwinReverb, what? are you kidding? i'm friggin scared to know what you call normal if this is eyecandy! [07:58] just saying "i think" [07:59] well, i am going to my laptop, this space heater needs to be shut down [07:59] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:59] powertop absolutely rocks [08:01] well, if this is to compete with aero... what aero?! this can't compete with luna :[ [08:01] you would think an LCD HDTV would not put out much heat, they generate a lot of heat [08:01] Action: john_dee is getting depressed [08:01] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:01] john_dee, why? [08:02] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [08:03] just because 13 is about to be released i am not going to wipe 12.2 and put it on there, it took some work to bet 12.2 customized to my needs and i am not wiping that off, i do have an extra disk partition i can install 13 on so i can try it out to see what changes i like or not like and prepare to migrate to it [08:04] TwinReverb, because i've seen kde only on screenshots before and had doubts whether i like it or not. now i see that in terms of graphical desing vanilla kde4 is an EPIC FAIL [08:06] i went through the same thing years ago when gnome-1.4 was replaced with gnome-2.x, i liked gnome-1.4 and hated gnome-2.x and still hate gnome-2.x to this day [08:06] TwinReverb, however, i have to use it some more time to see if that term can be applied to whole DE or not [08:06] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] Xfce looks rather nice, especially the newer version [08:08] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:12] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] uses and prefers the new xfce over kde [08:16] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.199.93) joined ##slackware. [08:16] TwinReverb: thanks for mention of powertop, i will have to remember that when i repair the t41 [08:17] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:17] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-137-138.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [08:20] yeah i prefer xfce [08:20] the whole "unlock encrypted volumes automatically" feature is nice [08:26] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:26] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:26] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:26] esbjorn_ (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:27] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [08:29] esbjorn_ (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Lämnar"). [08:29] esb (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:30] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.159.242) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [08:32] anyone successfully ported openoffice.org to 64-bit? .. .Tried with the .rpm package but I didn't manage to get it running... [08:33] yes! openoffice.org provides their own [08:33] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/office/openoffice.org/ [08:33] oh, now I feel stupid ... [08:34] http://ftp-atl.osuosl.org/pub/openoffice/stable/3.1.0/OOo_3.1.0_LinuxX86-64_install_en-US.tar.gz [08:34] if you just change arch from i586 to x86_64, the slackbuild above will handle everything :) [08:34] cool, thank you :) [08:35] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] esb, there is already a 64bit open office [08:36] kind of redundant :> [08:37] Action: init[1] hmmm so there are office geeks in slackware :P? [08:38] v4nelle (n=van@78-106-230.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:40] jack of all trades and a master of none [08:41] muzz2k (n=anthony@86.152.144.169) joined ##slackware. [08:41] RipVanWinkle: O_o who ! [08:42] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [08:42] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:42] search google or wikipedia for that comment (my previous comment) [08:43] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:43] RipVanWinkle: i know what that comment means :) [08:44] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@201.51.138.48) joined ##slackware. [08:44] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:49] http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/06/27/160232/The-Path-From-Hacker-To-Security-Consultant?from=rss [08:50] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:51] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:51] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:04] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.249) joined ##slackware. [09:08] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:11] init[1]: i was reading that at college the other day and the teacher said "stop looking at hackers, its illegal" [09:11] lol [09:15] the fact is [some] teachers have become Outdated box with Red hat 9 :P [09:17] izap: we are doomed [09:20] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:21] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:21] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [09:21] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [09:28] AlexandreBini (n=chatzill@189-18-231-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:29] AlexandreBini (n=chatzill@189-18-231-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [09:29] lol [09:31] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [09:35] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.38) joined ##slackware. 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[09:52] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [09:52] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [09:53] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] hey ,in between if irssi get disconnected , it seem to remove my mask and rejoin again with my ghost is there a way to retain my mask [09:55] sQuEE (n=narya@host185.201-253-139.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:56] i could not get midnight commander to follow color schemes in ~/.mc/ini so i hacked the source code, if anyone is interested look at mc/src/color.c [09:56] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.140.119) joined ##slackware. [09:58] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) left ##slackware. [09:58] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [09:58] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-124-254.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [10:00] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-147-122.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:00] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [10:02] RipVanWinkle: make a patch and submit it upstream ? [10:02] slackbare (n=wilson@2001:470:1f10:785:204:76ff:fe36:65e9) joined ##slackware. [10:04] maybe, it is super easy to edit, the color schemes are in human readable text [10:08] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [10:08] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [10:11] RipVanWinkle: you'd have to edit that for every slackware release you'll use/update to :) [10:12] naw, just keep a copy of color.h and build a fresh package [10:12] 5 minute job [10:12] color.c that is [10:12] and upstream is lazy as hell, I've had to do *everything* while the change was only a typo : 'O' instead of 'o' (yeah, nothing more than uppercase instead of lowercase...) [10:13] RipVanWinkle: don't they have an irc channel ? [10:13] not that i know of [10:15] jabber : mc-dev@conference.jabber.org [10:16] or mail mc-devel@gnome.org [10:17] jabber? isnt that an instant messenger protocol? [10:17] trick_ (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) joined ##slackware. [10:17] i added color section to the /mc/ini works for me [10:18] trick_ (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:19] it would not for me, i did build mc-4.6.2, every time i added a color section i would start mc and it would delete the color section and give me that awful blue background, i love mc but i wanted to change the color scheme a little, but with a black backgound i had to change black font color to white, no big deal really [10:20] even the editor looks better with the syntax highlighting on a black background [10:21] mc -b > * [10:22] too late, i already fixed up color.c and rebuilt, looks great here [10:22] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-31-40.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:23] mc also has a trac you can sumbit bug reports. probably the easiest way to do it. although you need an account [10:24] nheco (n=nheco_nh@189-30-62-128.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:24] thats the thing, what i did was not a bugfix, just change the color scheme a little [10:28] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.38) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:28] irad (n=irad@ip68-111-250-122.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "ahh" [10:29] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) joined ##slackware. [10:32] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:32] raela (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:34] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02A91.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:34] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:35] nheco (n=nheco_nh@189-30-62-128.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [10:37] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:40] irad (n=irad@ip68-111-250-122.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.206.109) joined ##slackware. [10:42] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432125.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] Anybody tried compiling FF 3.5 in 12.2? [10:44] alkos333: i wanna know where i can get the source [10:44] and possibly the slackbuild [10:44] steiger: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5/ [10:44] steiger: SlackBuild is the problem. [10:45] There is no slackbuild for building from source that I know of. [10:45] I tried using the 64-current SlackBuild, but that failed because they are trying to apply some patches there and it fails. I haven't had the time to dig deper. [10:45] *deeper [10:47] cadmium (n=test@86.98.168.113) joined ##slackware. [10:47] Hell I did not know slackware 64 built firefox from source. [10:48] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Yep, there's no official x86_64 build. [10:48] So they had to compile it. [10:49] Cool [10:49] Feel free to ignore me. ) [10:50] lol [10:53] lol [10:53] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:53] winter_ (n=winter@75-121-173-161.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02A91.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] sorenp1 (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [10:59] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.20.194) left irc: "Leaving." [10:59] i will have some screenshots of mc up in a little while, i want to fine tune color.c so it looks great! even make mc developers jealous ;p [11:00] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@96.225.167.254) joined ##slackware. [11:02] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.161.249) joined ##slackware. [11:03] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.11.28) joined ##slackware. [11:04] RipVanWinkle: mc? [11:05] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:07] http://imagebin.org/54502 [11:07] http://imagebin.org/54503 [11:15] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:16] Rip, nice job, congrats. [11:16] :D [11:17] I like the blue, but ugh, in KDE4's konsole (transparency?) it's all washed out and hard to read. [11:17] i noticed that with some terminals, the blue would be washed out, sakura is the same way [11:17] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.199.93) left irc: "Leaving" [11:18] hoho (n=email@190.166.153.114) joined ##slackware. [11:18] so you did this at the source code level, not at the user level? [11:19] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) left irc: [11:20] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.57.244) joined ##slackware. [11:20] yeah, get mc source, in src/color.c starting at line 137 to line 171 is where the color scheme is [11:20] cadmium (n=test@86.98.168.113) left irc: [11:21] foreground is the first color, backbround is the second color, in each line [11:24] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-147-122.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [11:24] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [11:25] Action: The-Croupier greets everybody..:) [11:27] esb (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:27] hi The-Croupier [11:27] conffrey (n=dario@94.163.142.216) joined ##slackware. [11:28] hi, hows it going tonight in here? [11:28] john_dee (n=id@89.179.28.74) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [11:28] doing good, looking forward to watching fireworks from teh roof of my house if it is not too hot out tonite [11:29] Hi.. I've decided that I don't won't to mess around with various distros anymore and now returning to slack for good. I haven't used slack since Slack 10.x and now Im not sure what to get, 12.2 or Slackware64-current... Im on a quadcore AMD 9800 with 16gb ram.. Normal desktop use and some programming time to time... [11:30] *want [11:30] esb, slackware-13.0rc1 is out, so... [11:31] hm, is it.. where ? [11:31] 64-current with that hardware [11:31] with 16 gigs of ram, use slackware64 [11:31] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-147-122.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:32] esb, http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current [11:33] esb: there`s a nice iso at.. [11:34] wait a minute [11:34] suer.. Im in no hurry ;) [11:36] winter_ (n=winter@75-121-173-161.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Connection timed out [11:37] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.161.249) left irc: "leaving" [11:38] esb: if you don`t want to rsync slackware64-current and make your own iso (since slackware64 isn`t officially out), you can get that dvd iso: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/slackware64-current-30_Jun_2009-DVD.iso [11:39] esb: it`s working like a charm, and slack64 is already very stable. i installed it with that iso 2 days ago [11:39] I rather not make my own... such a waste of time if there now is one ready to rock [11:39] steiger: Thaks a bunch :) [11:39] you`re welcome ;) [11:40] thats ISO doesnt include the 1st of July changes [11:40] s/thats/that [11:40] stealth-: U ruuning a system about the same as me ?? AMD quad? [11:40] no, since it is from 30-jun-2009 [11:40] but so what? slackpkg is a very good friend [11:41] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [11:44] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.11.28) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:44] shonudo (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:47] confrey (n=dario@94.163.147.246) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:50] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [11:52] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [11:55] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [11:56] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.140.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:00] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.16) joined ##slackware. [12:03] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:03] so only quad pcs are going to run slack64? :( damn.. i need a new laptop :( [12:04] i want to try the new one..:( [12:04] The-Croupier: ?! no, any x86_64 system will run slack64 [12:04] if it meets the min specs [12:04] i`m running it on a single-core core 2 duo [12:05] MorgothBauglir (n=MorgothB@59.94.191.65) joined ##slackware. [12:05] steiger, what are the min specs for this case? [12:05] *dual-core [12:05] i would bet, the same as the 32-bit slackware [12:05] just with a 64-bit processor [12:05] steiger: my laptop is being a little busy running current atm...no wonder slack64 will not survive..:( [12:06] The-Croupier: the overload will most likely be the same [12:06] aproximately the same [12:06] muzz2k (n=anthony@86.152.144.169) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:06] the packages are the same... only they are built for 64-bit processors [12:06] just to be sure, slack support S-ATA II drive ? [12:06] fair enough [12:08] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-24-4.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [12:08] hmmm, my 3yold laptop im sure will not be able to run it there.. ill be ok with 32slack for a while...;) [12:09] also, how does one make swapon /dev/sda1 be permanent..cos my swap doesnt seem to get mounted at startup [12:09] make an entry for it in /etc/fstab maybe [12:10] tank-man: already done that in the beginning [12:11] i dont know then, sorry [12:11] The-Croupier: reading the manpage for swapon, you probably need to specify that on a /etc/rc file [12:11] i`m not sure what file is it [12:12] swapon is found in /etc/rc.d/rc.S [12:12] can i delete everything in my /tmp folder and not mess up my system? [12:13] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [12:13] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl4-204-21.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:13] irad: thats the whole point of /tmp... see what you have there before doing that though. some apps running might need the files there. that might cause em to stop working [12:14] irad: if your apps follow standards, removing /tmp/* will potentially damage things that are running right now, if at all. [12:14] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-68-244.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:15] irad: i removed everything in console mode.. and then logged in fine [12:15] ;) everything run as a charm [12:15] Action: The-Croupier going to see the swapon thing [12:15] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.140.182.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:16] hi al [12:16] hoho (n=email@190.166.153.114) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:16] all* [12:16] hoho (n=email@190.166.153.114) joined ##slackware. [12:16] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:16] can someone paste a swap record in /etc/fstab please? [12:16] hi gtl [12:16] how does it look like [12:16] The-Croupier: i think your rc files contain the swapon/swapoff commands even if you dont have a swap though. you might wanna grep swap /etc/rc.d/* [12:16] The-Croupier, /dev/hda3 swap swap defaults 0 0 [12:17] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-68-244.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:17] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-68-244.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] christian (n=christia@kobz-590d11a4.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [12:18] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:19] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:19] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:20] hello hackers :-) [12:20] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl4-205-163.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:20] hiya macavity ...;) hackers?!!!! [12:20] hello [12:21] hello macavity [12:21] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.16) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:21] http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/powradio.html everybody should memorize this page. ...just in case [12:21] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02A91.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:22] http://www.linux.co.nz/journal/2009/7/3/cloned-distros-why-ubuntu-sucks-and-should-be-banned.html [12:24] harsh words [12:24] like it or not, ubuntu made a favor for the linux community by popularizing it [12:24] RipVanWinkle: lol [12:24] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:24] "fork it!" [12:25] steiger: s/made a favour for/grew/ [12:25] the growth in itself has downsides [12:25] The-Croupier: if using multiple swap devices (a good idea if you have two or more physical drives), leave off "defaults" and replace with "pri=1" (to set them at equal priority.) [12:26] fred: yeah, like just about everything. but i still think it`s mainly good to see the linux community growing [12:26] [12:26] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:26] sahko: really nice site that ;) [12:27] rob0: sorry i didnt get that [12:27] instead of "defaults" i should have "pri=1" to both "/" and swap? right? [12:27] okay, if you're interested, Google, otherwise forget it [12:27] i use slackware64 13.0 rc1 and i wanted to compile claws-mail, with normal 32bit slackware it compiled well, bur with slackware64 there seems to be a problem with pilot-link [12:28] The-Croupier: its not mine, its MrLinux's [12:28] also, fstab(5) might have information, as well as swapon(8) [12:28] rob0: you see, im not using multiple swap devices..its only one... [12:28] The-Croupier: swap priority does not apply to / [12:28] Right, I did qualify the original comment with "if using multiple swap devices". [12:29] macavity: oh...i understand..thats where multiple comes on.. [12:29] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:29] The-Croupier: in that case his premisse is not true, thus you can not use the conclution... [12:29] macavity: yep i understood that ;) [12:29] rawr [12:29] rob0: i see.. thank you for the information...ill keep that in mind if needed laters [12:29] spook: was it good? :P [12:29] i compiled pilot-link 0.12.4 and now everything works fine [12:29] was what good? [12:29] spook: greeets,greets,greets [12:30] The-Croupier: congrats! [12:30] spook: the thing that made you go "rawr" [12:30] i'll recompile 0.12.3 to see where the issue is [12:30] macavity: being tired/bored/sleepy? sure. [12:30] rawr rawr rawr [12:30] spook: congrats for what? [12:30] The-Croupier: [ in bed ] [12:30] spook: go smack the GF on the behind :P [12:31] macavity: shes not here :) [12:31] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@96.225.167.254) left irc: "Leaving" [12:31] spook: smack yourself on the behind then ;) [12:31] spook: go make a new one in the garage ;-) [12:31] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:31] hahaha [12:31] still bored? [12:31] i'm about to sleep. just finished making a list and packing my 40k army for tomorrow [12:32] go get them tiger [12:32] spook: army? [12:32] Warhammer 40K [12:32] space marines [12:32] pussy :P [12:32] spook: nice one [12:32] macavity: lol [12:32] real men pwn the world with Eldars :P [12:33] macavity: what? its a half company packing a lot of fire power [12:33] and assault marines [12:33] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [12:33] for those who like colours and awesomeness, you should try the fish shell [12:33] Hello! [12:33] pri4pus: !olleH [12:34] spook: yeah, i am aware that the rules have been changed to unreasonably favor space marines [12:34] macavity: not really [12:34] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [12:35] 5th ed rules are the best the games ever been. really quite balanced [12:36] spook: ok? when they introduced 3rd ed half the people i know who played resigned (and so did i)... only the space marine, imerial guard and the aliens stayed [12:36] oh, what is the name of the alies again? [12:36] tyranids? [12:36] shonudo (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:36] oh yes [12:36] what's a good bluetooth app to use with gnome? [12:36] why play so many games? when there are so many things to do? [12:37] hahahaha you think this is the real quade? well it is! pew pew [12:37] The-Croupier: this is a tabletop minatures game [12:37] The-Croupier: as in, most the fun is in painting the minatures [12:38] spook: ohh....sorry i have no clue about the game...but i dont play so many myself unless..i get to shoot the hell out of things [12:38] and see them explode [12:38] and blood everywhere.... [12:38] there are not so many games like that lately...:( [12:38] in short, pixel violence? [12:38] The-Croupier: yeah, not really in the tabletop game. [12:38] macavity: yep yep yep [12:38] spook: no not really [12:38] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.16) joined ##slackware. [12:39] i dont have the patience to stay and paint..;) [12:39] if what macavity says its true [12:39] only some of my guys are fully painted [12:39] most of them are like half painted [12:39] spook: you must be very patient guy.. congrats [12:40] its time consuming yeah [12:40] i would probably through things on the walls and such [12:42] hey guys, i want to make a script to 1.get root priviledges... 2.run specific scripts i have put together... i can manage 2part but "su" then pass doesnt work ...:( any ideas? [12:42] could use cron? [12:42] or sudo [12:42] cron? [12:43] Action: The-Croupier checking cron [12:43] root's crontab for regularly executing scripts. [12:44] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.26.82) joined ##slackware. [12:44] spook: im reading the wiki but no clue...could you give me an example? [12:44] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:44] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-147-122.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [12:44] well what is your script for? [12:45] intel gfx users please read: http://qa-rockstar.livejournal.com/7869.html [12:45] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:45] i can confirm that DRI2 *is* faster for composite desktop effects.. but that glxgears does drop a little [12:46] spook: get eth0 up, run iptables -L and netstat -an | grep established..blah blah.... [12:46] The-Croupier: then use sudo [12:46] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] cron for things like backups, which you want to happen every night or something [12:47] spook: like? sudo ifconfig eth0 up? [12:47] sudo for the commands that need root. [12:47] or, sudo bash [12:47] spook: no, i just want to make some things run in the begining [12:47] spook: never used that...usually used to do things manually... ill go and see some examples... [12:48] dhcpcd -R must be issued evey boot? [12:48] thanks [12:48] if you stick it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local or similar, it should be executed as root. [12:48] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [12:48] scubacuda_ (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [12:48] assuming you want it running at startup [12:49] yeah, [12:50] spook: yep.. i do want it to run at startup [12:50] i want to use opendns.. [12:50] then use rc.local [12:50] Action: macavity ritually burns sudo at the stake [12:50] spook: thanks..;) [12:50] or make rc.local execute your script [12:50] spook: make rc.local execute it? [12:50] ! [12:51] macavity: sudo make me a sandwich [12:51] spook: bash: sudo: command not found [12:51] The-Croupier: echo "/path/to/yourscript" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local [12:51] macavity: su -; make me a sandwich [12:51] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.57.244) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:51] scubacuda_ (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:51] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [12:52] spook: i see.. [12:52] The-Croupier: make sure your script is chmod +x [12:53] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.206.109) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:53] spook: definately [12:53] ;) thanks [12:53] np [12:53] spook: access denied: fridge owned by kernel! [12:54] spook: kernel panic! is in order [12:54] fry the kernel, damage the fridge ;) [12:54] gogogogooggo go soldier [12:54] macavity: echo makemeasandwich > /proc/kmem [12:54] The-Croupier: i think this time we are looking at a hunger panic [12:55] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:55] spook: i suggest you try that for real :P [12:55] macavity: no thanks. [12:56] rc.local seems a file ill be messing up alot from now on..:( oops [12:56] time to go ... [12:56] spook: thanks again for the valuable advice once more..;) [12:56] have a good one guys [12:57] greeetings [12:57] bye [12:57] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [12:57] bye [12:58] funny fella :P [12:59] lacking some key knowledge, otherwise nice guy [13:00] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-130-230.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [13:01] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] its imposible to use -m match --string iptables module on SSL right? [13:01] acidchild: to match anything that's encrypted, yes [13:02] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] acidchild: why, what are you trying to do? [13:02] hehehe. [13:02] that would be fun to do [13:04] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [13:05] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.206.109) joined ##slackware. [13:06] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:08] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [13:09] hey gang [13:10] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:10] jumperboy: lol :-) [13:10] jumperboy: [0:0] -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 -m string --string "dbadm" --algo bm --to 65535 -j DROP [13:10] macavity, was it you yesterday becasue we were talking about the stability issues of kde 4.x and intel drivers in X saying where the gothcas were .. im thinking of rebuilding this box bc i do want to keep current on where development is going [13:11] my KDE4 just froze with intel driver [13:12] ;( [13:12] steiger, we were talking yesterday why [13:12] VampirePenguin: i belive that was me [13:12] one thing wsas turing compositing off [13:12] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:12] jumperboy: just going to use apache :-) [13:13] compositing works nicely here on -current with mesa-7.4.4 from testing/ [13:13] wicd gone nuts... [13:13] gtl: which version? [13:13] an youre using intel graphics macavity [13:13] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:14] 1.5.9 [13:14] i have plamas/oid crashes [13:14] seg 11/15s [13:14] gtl: 1.6.1 is out. [13:14] hmm nice [13:14] dolphin is affectyed in kde by this .. but in xfce its slid [13:14] solid [13:15] /j #esperanto [13:15] gtl: also, #wicd [13:16] ah... thanks [13:17] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Connection timed out [13:21] VampirePenguin: how can i turn on `turing composition?` [13:21] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:22] if X made an xorg.conf file set composite to true [13:22] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [13:22] there were a couple things i think xrender had something too do with stability lso [13:23] xrender and intel dont currently play nice [13:23] am just fuzzy on it and before I jump in want to have it right so it makes the install go smoother [13:23] i use the KDE settings gizzmo to fiddle the settings [13:23] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:23] bc this is a specific intle/X/plasma issue [13:23] spook, but i think it's something related to dhcpcd... [13:24] gizmo?? [13:24] is t here something new? [13:24] or just in the control panel under display [13:25] the systemsettings -> desktop -> desktop effects -> advanced [13:26] off getting chow [13:26] later [13:26] i have compositing type: OpenGL. OpenGL mode: Texture from pixmap. Texture filter: trilinear [13:26] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.140.182.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:27] and uhm, dont check the "disable functionality checks" :P [13:27] .. and dont try to vtswitch unless you enable KMS in the kernel [13:27] so with that plasmas rock on [13:28] also, i have Option "AccelMethod" "UXA" [13:28] in xorg.conf [13:28] you need to specifically enable UXA if you dont run KMS [13:29] i usually dont recompile the stock kernel because it meets my needs so if its not in there by default [13:29] i dont run KMS atm, since it blanks the booting vt just after hald starts.. and i want to see the boot text :P [13:29] oh, and i run kernel .30 [13:30] you *probably* want to do that, as it fixes a memory leak and a sync to vblank issue [13:30] i dont recal if i ever got it working on .29.x [13:33] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:34] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:38] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) left irc: [13:38] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Success [13:38] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) joined ##slackware. [13:39] How to see pdf file from console? [13:40] raela (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: "later guys" [13:41] pdftotext [13:41] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [13:41] pdftotext ./file_name.pdf [13:43] or pdftohtml if you want it html formatted [13:44] thanks , I will try. [13:45] pdftotext & pddftohtml & pdftops are part of the poppler package [13:49] It used to be unpoppler, but its popplerity improved. [13:49] lol [13:49] what did I do worng here [13:49] Makefile:158: *** Error: /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.30) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.30-smp). Stop. [13:49] s/worng/wrong [13:49] juice__: i guess it is self-explanatory [13:50] what are you building juice__ ? [13:50] are you building a kernel? or something that needs access to kernel source [13:51] Whatever it is, it wants configured source in /usr/src/linux to match the running kernel. You don't have it. [13:51] yup [13:51] 2.6.30-smp ?? This is not a Slackware kernel. [13:55] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [13:56] miniBill (n=chatzill@host162-234-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-130-230.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [13:57] rob0++ [13:57] I've got an old 10.1 install, I can't upgrade it and I'd prefer to stick to old packages. The maximum screen resolution is 800x600. Can you suggest me a good pdf viewer? [13:57] gv is good, but the quality is awful [13:58] xpdf is awful, but the quality is good :D [13:58] can I find it on 10.1 cd? [13:58] maybe [13:59] :| [13:59] xpdf is not really that bad, if you get used to the widgets. [13:59] http://packages.slackware.it/search.php?v=10.1&t=1&q=xpdf [13:59] You can control it with .xpdfrc too. [14:00] christian (n=christia@kobz-590d11a4.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:00] irad (n=irad@ip68-111-250-122.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:00] christian (n=christia@kobz-590ef557.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [14:00] $ cat ~/.xpdfrc [14:00] initialZoom width [14:01] Nick change: christian -> Guest67165 [14:01] murphy, I hate you! [14:02] Action: pri4pus wants FREEDOM! [14:02] I live apvlv but you should have a look at ... which is based on poppler (which is xpdf's code) [14:02] ... <- to be filled [14:02] Action: miniBill uses GNU/Linux to achieve it [14:03] epdfview [14:03] miniBill (n=chatzill@host162-234-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [14:03] Action: pri4pus wants FREEDOM for the people in his country! [14:03] conffrey (n=dario@94.163.142.216) left irc: "Sto andando via" [14:03] RipVanWinkle vbox [14:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:04] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Action: pri4pus + superior intelligence. [14:04] steiger I know what it says but it is the correct soruce for the running kernel [14:04] Nick change: Guest67165 -> christian [14:04] Why should your country be different from any other? Sit down, shut up and get to work to make money for your overlords. :) [14:05] rob0: Why should any other country be different from mine? [14:06] Get up, talk smart and make revolution! [14:06] :-) [14:09] you need to get your kernel source to match your running kernel juice__, if you run make mrproper on your kernel source then use make oldconfig to get it configured like your running kernel and run make on it, no need to install the kernel just get a complete tree that matches your running kernel built for vbox to build against [14:11] make sure the version of the kernel source tree matches the running kernel too [14:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) joined ##slackware. [14:12] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-31-40.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:13] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.16) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:14] like I said it does [14:14] already did that [14:15] compiled kernels for years [14:16] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] and vbox is still saying they dont match up? [14:18] maybe something in that vbox source screwy, either run make clean on the vbox source or delete and download a fresh copy [14:18] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:19] MorgothBauglir (n=MorgothB@59.94.191.65) left irc: "Leaving" [14:19] juice__: prove it, in a pastebin. [14:27] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-165.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] Action: antler gives C_Tux a murphy burger [14:31] shonudo (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE67B4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Hey antler [14:31] hi fire|bird :) [14:31] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl28-214.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Action: C_Tux bites into murphy and into fire|bird! [14:31] :O [14:31] poor fire|bird [14:32] hello everyone [14:32] Hi Lord_Khelben [14:32] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-24-4.singnet.com.sg) left ##slackware. [14:32] heyyyyyy its a fire|bird [14:32] yo Lord_Khelben [14:32] whoa, it's a nix_chix0r [14:32] hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [14:32] nix_chix0r: How are you doing? Happy Fourth of July. :) [14:32] bleh [14:33] i want to go camping somewhere not by my house [14:33] stupid breaks [14:33] who cares about the fourth? only the fourteenth matters [14:33] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.213) joined ##slackware. [14:33] fourteenth? Why? [14:33] in the USA, Fourth of July matters. [14:33] doesn't matter to me:) [14:34] :P [14:34] just another fucking weekend with nothing to do [14:34] Action: Lord_Khelben goes to google fourth of july [14:34] SteppenwolfII (n=greymaus@86-46-213-82-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille_Day [14:34] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5acfccc6.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:34] Bastille Day, first time I read that [14:34] at least my media is pimp [14:34] watching a weeds marathon [14:35] C_Tux: eh, who cares about the fourteenth. ;) [14:36] fire|bird: everybody :D [14:36] C_Tux: I don't [14:37] fire|bird: that's because you're nobody :D [14:37] C_Tux: Well I could have told you that. [14:37] fire|bird: but you didn't because you're not a liar nobody, only a nobody :D [14:39] fire|bird: come on, let's fight! http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Camarade_Tux&word2=firebird619 [14:39] :D [14:39] haha [14:40] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] I just won, I kicked you right off the screen. [14:40] see, I slack more than you :D [14:40] lulz [14:40] ah finally my network's set up [14:41] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:41] shonudo (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [14:41] antler: that the one you've been trying to get working the past few days? [14:42] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-68-244.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:42] s/days/weeks/ [14:42] hahaha fire|bird : yeah [14:42] antler: and it's all working now? [14:43] How much net would a network work if a network could work nets? [14:43] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5acfccc6.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [14:44] yeah, it's great. very simple set up. 2 on the lan, one slack server and one windows client [14:44] fire|bird: ^^ [14:44] antler: nice. glad it's working now. :) [14:44] rob0: lol [14:44] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [14:45] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [14:46] i've just lost my virginity; i've never had a server before. :D [14:46] christian (n=christia@kobz-590ef557.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "Verlassend" [14:47] let| (n=let@unaffiliated/let/x-1409425) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:47] antler: and you're being raped by a windows client =/ [14:47] Action: fire|bird hands antler a beer, congratulations. :) [14:48] C_Tux: and that brings viruses and gosh knows what else. [14:49] http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=jeev&word2=Camarade_Tux [14:49] hahahah [14:49] antler: you've put an antivirus on your server, right? you need to put a condom between that little thing and the big one -_- [14:49] fire|bird: haha thanks. C_Tux rape is sometimes good? [14:49] you got owned commie [14:50] except that jeev isn't you ;) [14:50] doesn't matter [14:50] C_Tux: no, not on the server, but i have one on the client [14:50] hahah 618 results for C_Tux [14:51] jeev : http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=jeev&word2=tux :) [14:51] bullshit [14:51] antler: is it you on that website? http://www.antler.co.uk/home.info :P [14:51] http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=sex&word2=tux [14:51] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:51] eat that [14:51] i won [14:51] left over spagetti ftw [14:52] jeev: yeah, you're only a sex without brain :) [14:52] C_Tux: lol, is that antler's gf too? :P [14:52] stop hatin tux [14:52] or shall i say, turd. [14:53] C_Tux: yes, only it was taken 8 years ago. we haven't changed it [14:53] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.26.82) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:53] fire|bird: she was a model from hungary [14:53] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:53] antler: nice [14:53] hmm chestnut downed 68 hotdogs .... [14:55] who the hell is "chestnut" and why would i care that he "downed 68 hotdogs ...." [14:56] My computer is named "chestnut", but I hope kitche is wrong about the hotdogs. :) [14:57] oh, it's a porn. "Chestnut downed 68 Hotdogs" cool [14:57] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:57] Joey chestnut I seen him live at the Wing fest one year [14:58] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [14:58] jeev: you're welcome :) [14:58] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.32) joined ##slackware. [14:59] antler: sure ;) [14:59] fire|bird: no, no, she's mine :) [14:59] akSeya (n=schanuel@189-95-58-118.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:59] C_Tux: you lucky, little........ :) [15:00] the girl is mine, mine, mine. --paul and mj [15:00] SteppenwolfII (n=greymaus@86-46-213-82-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:00] damn it makes me sad when talent dies [15:01] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:04] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.80.215) joined ##slackware. [15:04] http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ati&word2=nvidia [15:04] apparently nvidia is losing track :P [15:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] macavity: lol ;p [15:07] but recent ati cards are really good : good performance (on par with nvidia's), good price (less than nvidia's) [15:07] wow how nice, googlefight page has 4 categories, each has a few dozen files, all of which show the exact same thing. [15:07] the top line from ati seems to kick some serious nvidia arse [15:08] the 4870x2 is supposedly the *shit* [15:08] this has got to be the most useless websites i've ever seen [15:08] :D [15:08] antler: http://instantrimshot.com/ [15:09] click the big red button [15:10] hahah i know, i've been here before. it was as though a giant question mark hung over my head [15:10] googlefight is worse imo [15:10] at least instantrimshot is good to tag-team with someone who just pwned someone verbally [15:11] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:11] eviljames usually does that when someone has a really snappy reply :P [15:11] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@201.51.138.48) joined ##slackware. [15:11] yeah haha [15:11] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-182-77.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432125.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:12] reminds me I have to write a letter with the Rick Roll lyrics :P [15:13] I wonder if anyone has ever been rick roll with a letter :) [15:14] heh is it wrong to borrow someone's unsecure wireless connection to download a driver? [15:14] yes [15:14] who cares? fire|bird aka nobody :D [15:15] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Nick change: fire|bird -> nobody [15:15] :( [15:15] can anyone recommend a good linux web host? [15:15] C_Tux: you don't have to keep saying that you know. :( [15:16] Nick change: nobody -> Guest59222 [15:16] nobody does it better. makes me feel sorry for the rest. [15:16] Nick change: Guest59222 -> firebird619 [15:16] haham apparently that nick was taken [15:16] haha [15:16] that's the exact same nick yoou've been trying to get rid of [15:16] :D [15:16] Nick change: firebird619 -> fire|bird [15:16] http://losethegame.com/ [15:16] i lost. [15:16] antler: I have 4 nicks now. :) [15:16] eviljames: you just lost apparently. [15:17] i won btw. [15:17] y0 eviljames, how goes? [15:17] sat down at the computer and promptly lost, but it's ok. [15:17] thanks to xkcd i won [15:18] wow i clicked on that nice a vid popped up, i pressed play, and saw a giant purple dildo [15:18] /s/nice/link [15:18] hahah randall doesn't have the power to free you. [15:18] antler: is that why opensolaris is bugging me to install codecs? no thanks... [15:19] akSeya (n=schanuel@189-95-58-118.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:19] damn my kid could've been around [15:19] eviljames: sorry but randall trumps 4chan anyday [15:20] I hadn't considered it that way... it seems true. I must factor this into my equations of internet memetics... [15:20] hahaha : http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3223 (and click 'next') [15:20] who the heck is randall? [15:21] antler: xkcd's author [15:21] the guy who writes xkcd full time [15:21] oh [15:21] http://xkcd.com/391/ [15:21] if it matters. [15:22] yeah, i remember seing this page [15:22] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.213) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:23] any of you have use a Lexmark X2670 with slackware ? [15:23] i assume thats a printer [15:23] Yep [15:23] hmm park is already full [15:23] using cups? [15:23] yep [15:23] mm Lexmarks are a bit harder to get working on Linux I found out [15:24] so its a cups thing not slackware [15:24] wasn't very precise :) [15:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:25] are dlink routers better than linksys routers? [15:25] meh all commerical routers aren't great [15:25] linksys is owned by cisco [15:25] however linksys do kinda suck [15:26] d link consumer grade isnt bad [15:26] avoid it for enterprise. [15:26] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:26] commercial as in commercial vs. the kind you do yourself? [15:26] i think you mean consumer, rather than commercial [15:27] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.213) joined ##slackware. [15:27] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:27] well i'm glad i bought a dlink, i guess [15:27] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl28-214.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [15:27] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:27] as in commerical they aren't bad but each brand has their own quirks to it I haev a belkin right now just wish I could disable the outside access to it [15:28] i have all cisco kit, not that i paid for any of it [15:28] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-132-167.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:28] aironet, catalyst [15:29] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-149-228.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:30] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.26.82) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Action: antler gives brklynRednek a sleeveless jean shirt and a big straw hat, and one piece of straw that he can bite on [15:31] cobra-the-joker (n=cobra@41.196.189.181) joined ##slackware. [15:31] hey there every one [15:31] hi [15:32] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:32] nix_chix0r: hey [15:32] sup [15:32] going to bed [15:32] hows the little shit? [15:33] dont know hes at his grandmas [15:33] :P [15:33] ah grandparents, so awesome when it comes to kids [15:33] i miss my nana. :( [15:34] Action: antler gives spook a blue blanket to hug [15:34] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [15:34] i should just keep him there for the summer;p [15:34] yeah [15:34] nix_chix0r: nah, he's gonna come back, soon, very soon ;) [15:34] john_dee (n=id@89.179.28.74) joined ##slackware. [15:35] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Client Quit [15:36] Hey guys .....slackware uses rpm or what ? [15:36] not rpm [15:36] cobra-the-joker: nope : it uses .tgz , basically a tar.gz [15:36] or xz :p [15:37] http://www.slackbook.org/html/package-management.html [15:37] C_Tux , so i have to compile every single package :( [15:37] ... no. [15:37] fred: hahah, I'm too used to tgz ;p [15:37] C_Tux, :( [15:37] naw i miss the little wanker [15:38] cobra-the-joker: you can convert rmp to tgz (see rpm2tgz) and use them on slackware but using packages made for another system isn't exactly the best way to go [15:38] C_Tux , yes i know . [15:39] stybla_ (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [15:39] C_Tux ..so you have your own package manager ? [15:40] called pkgtools [15:40] but it doesn't resolve dependencies like other distros, that is up to you. [15:41] i guess slackware for a desktop is very odd [15:41] no, not odd at all. [15:41] Action: C_Tux checks... yep, he's running a desktop [15:42] why is running slackware for a desktop odd? [15:42] cobra-the-joker: no, not at all [15:42] i think when i have to get a program ....i have to download all those bunch of packages to get things work ....aint it ? [15:42] Slackware is not a 'toy' like some other distros ... [15:43] but i gotta try it though ;) [15:43] cobra-the-joker: you should check slackbuilds.org too [15:44] lol slackware's not a toy pft... [15:45] you mean to run slackware you have to mentally belong to a group of computer wiz elites? :P [15:46] \o/ we are zealots, err, zelits [15:46] slackware is the cleanest distribution out there, and if you have the habit of reading manuals, it`s quite easy too [15:47] cobra-the-joker: on the other hand, there tends to be reduced dependenices in slackware [15:47] steiger ....can i count on tht slackbook thing ? [15:47] other distros tend to include all the /optional/ dependencies [15:47] cobra-the-joker: sure [15:47] cobra-the-joker: definitely [15:47] thats more like it :D [15:47] imz in ur linux [15:48] eatinz yer kernlz [15:48] :D [15:48] antler: That kind of leet? ;) [15:48] whats wiz the zzzz ...lol [15:48] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138224084.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:48] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-198-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:48] akira42_ (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-198-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] agentc0re: i'd say that's one small step beyond [15:49] and one giant step for catlolz? [15:49] hahah [15:50] Nick change: akira42_ -> akira42 [15:52] Nick change: akira42 -> akira42_ [15:52] Nick change: akira42_ -> akira42__ [15:52] http://failblog.org/2009/07/02/name-win/ [15:53] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:53] hahah [15:53] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [15:54] http://failblog.org/2009/07/01/curiosity-fail/ I think i need to start watching these yahoo question asking groups more often. [15:55] nasty [15:58] Nick change: akira42__ -> akira42 [15:58] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.96.68) joined ##slackware. [16:02] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) joined ##slackware. [16:02] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) left ##slackware. [16:03] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:03] skatar (n=lupin@host252-41-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:03] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] I am trying to ./configure something in slackware64-current and it says it finds no 'start' or '_start' symbol [16:05] dchmelik: sounds like a problem in the source, pastebin the config.log file [16:05] okay, to where? [16:06] pastebin.com ? [16:06] or .ca [16:06] or... [16:06] ok, I am already going there... I have just not used it before.... [16:07] switch_ (n=nobody@c-98-235-92-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:07] or pastebin.slackadelic.com ;p [16:08] I want to take some slackadelic drugs [16:09] hey you all, does someone have a problem with the last xorg-server upgrade? I've the problem that now the effects in kde4 does not work anymore [16:10] someone on #gcc looked at it and thought it was 32-bit only, though someone on #grub said grub is also 64-bit.... [16:10] skatar: please provide details : which card, which driver, ... [16:10] http://pastebin.com/d241555b7 [16:10] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [16:10] C_Tux: sorry, nvidia driver [16:11] nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 140M [16:11] on a T61 thinkpad [16:11] john_dee (n=id@89.179.28.74) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [16:11] dchmelik: don't really know, but "configure:6259: checking if _start is defined by the compiler" [16:12] dchmelik: ran xorgsetup after the upgrade ? [16:12] it worked before the last update (Jul 1) [16:12] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "later" [16:13] C_Tux: I've reinstalled the nvidia driver right now and I'm using the setup xorg.conf [16:13] C_Tux: 661. configure:6330: error: neither start nor _start is defined [16:14] so it makes me think there is something wrong with slackware64-current gcc or binutils [16:15] dchmelik: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?25584 [16:15] seems you need a working 32bit compiler [16:15] oh yeah, that is what they said on #gcc [16:15] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.100) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:16] I had better bring that up on #grub; they said it works on 64-bit [16:16] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.100) joined ##slackware. [16:16] Wolong (n=wolong@227.29.125.92.vpn.tomsknet.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:16] now I'll close irssi and try to do the xorgsetup [16:16] skatar (n=lupin@host252-41-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [16:16] gah, wanted to tell him something =/ [16:17] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:18] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.206.109) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:18] Action: C_Tux loves swallows :) [16:23] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:24] skatar (n=lupin@host252-41-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:24] xorgsetup does not work [16:24] it's the same [16:25] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:25] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.136.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:25] hi all [16:26] skatar: yeah, I've been a bit slow to react but it probably configured X to use the 'nv' driver, not 'nvidia' [16:26] you need to run nvidia's config util [16:26] hi gtl [16:26] will Slackware64 have a 32-bit compiling option? [16:26] C_Tux: no, I've runned nvidia tools and it's the nvidia driver (in use) [16:26] now I want to try to downgrade the 4 packages of the last upgrade [16:27] skatar: ok, can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg0.log ? [16:27] C_Tux: after the downgrade :-) [16:27] cobra-the-joker (n=cobra@41.196.189.181) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] because I don't think there is the error [16:27] dchmelik: not out-of-the-box [16:27] dchmelik: fred has 32-bit compatibility packages [16:28] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:28] (it's hard for me to help in kde problems since I don't use it) [16:29] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.0.144) joined ##slackware. [16:29] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138224084.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:30] C_Tux: what are you using? [16:30] chopp: I thought Slamd64 c/ does not work on Slackware64 yet [16:31] dchmelik: ftp://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ [16:32] I'll downgrade, I hope to come here soon :-) [16:32] skatar (n=lupin@host252-41-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [16:32] excellent [16:32] how do I track down a pid lock file? [16:32] ls -al /proc//fd [16:32] antler, make that a sleeveless black cotton shirt, a slackware hat, and a stone reefer pipe with some good tobacco in it [16:33] skatar: openbox and nothing more [16:33] nooperm thanks [16:33] it'll only show up if the lockfile is opened by the process [16:33] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.100) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:35] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.136.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:36] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.136.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:37] back [16:38] in black [16:38] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-142-41.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:38] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.100) joined ##slackware. [16:39] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-101-42.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] skatar (n=lupin@host252-41-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:41] with the "old" four packages it works! [16:42] now I've to find the differences [16:42] how to find the differences? [16:42] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-6-216.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] I don't like how zsh defaults to insert mode when set to use vi keybinds [16:43] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-14-150.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] skatar: you mean xorg-server-1.6.1-i486-2.txz doesn't work and xorg-server-1.6.1-i486-1.txz does? [16:44] yes [16:44] and I've also downgraded the other 3 rebuilted package [16:44] the differences should be : "Fixed default-font-path." and "Patched a key repeat problem in XineramaCheckMotion." [16:44] I've readed it on the changelog [16:45] but I need to know the _real_ differences [16:45] I mean the patches [16:47] http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/source/x/x11/patch/xorg-server/0001-dix-ignore-non-pointer-events-in-XineramaCheckMotio.patch.gz [16:47] I've seen that patch, and the other one seems to be only in /usr/include/xorg/xorg-server.h [16:47] and I guess the other one is just when configuring [16:48] so where is the problem with composite? :-S [16:49] but if that update causes problems, maybe time to harrass alienBOB or rworkman :) [16:49] do you think that is better to send them a mail? [16:49] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [16:49] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.143.233) joined ##slackware. [16:50] skatar: wait a bit, they will show up magically :D [16:50] :-) just becase you've written their name? :-D [16:51] dorin (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) joined ##slackware. [16:51] hallo [16:51] skatar: I think it is how quantum mechanics works [16:51] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] skatar: yep, like Beetlejuice and Candlejack :) [16:51] they are bound to show up now sooner or later [16:51] yo dorin [16:52] so, I'll wait their arrive (or I'll send them a mail) [16:52] i have a problem wit setxkbmap (work ok but after i log in again i must run setxkbmap again [16:52] skatar: they probably got a notice that there name has been written on the channel [16:53] dorin: it's always like that [16:53] anTraxc (n=gts@189-015-244-032.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:53] skatar: it's 22:51 alienBOB's time if I remember right, so better luck talking with rworkman at this time. [16:53] chopp: it's 22:54 also here :-), where is alienBOB? [16:54] NL [16:54] chopp: doh, I thought I was in sync with him but there is a two minutes difference between us =/ [16:54] 20:54:30 UTC [16:54] I want to upgrade.txt to 13RC [16:54] C_Tux: also you 22:55? :-) [16:54] skatar: no, 54 xD [16:54] sorry :-) [16:55] :55:00 [16:55] 55:00 [16:55] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@201.51.138.48) joined ##slackware. [16:55] dorin: you can 1- edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand and set the "XkbLayout" by hand, 2- run xorgsetup and select your layout when asked to [16:56] dorin_ (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) joined ##slackware. [16:56] dorin_: you can 1- edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand and set the "XkbLayout" by hand, 2- run xorgsetup and select your layout when asked to [16:56] ntpdate ca.pool.ntp.org 1> /dev/null ftw [16:56] ntpd ftw :) [16:57] or that ;) [16:57] rob0 command centre [16:57] C_Tux i done 1- (option) but it seems it is not working [16:57] gtl: did that work for finding the lockfile? [16:57] Pumpkins1979 (i=500@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [16:58] nooper, i found lots of stuff there [16:58] still trying to debug what i need [16:58] dorin_: what is the corresponding line in your xorg.conf? [16:59] Section "InputDevice" [16:59] Option "XkbLayout" "us" ## KEYBOARD_MAP! [16:59] Identifier "Keyboard0" [16:59] Channel flood from dorin_ -- kicking [16:59] Driver "kbd" [16:59] Option "XkbModel" "" ## KEYBOARD_MODEL! [16:59] dorin_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:59] yeah, I said 'line' [16:59] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-165.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] dorin_ (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) joined ##slackware. [17:00] ups,hehe (flod) [17:00] i installed websphere portal and am trying to build a script that starts, stops and shows status of the server [17:00] dorin: do 2- ;) [17:01] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) left irc: [17:02] (I advise 2- because XkbModel shouldn't be empty and I don't know the exact layout you want) [17:05] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:05] christian (n=christia@kobz-590ef557.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [17:05] hello [17:06] hi christian * [17:09] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:09] anyone use dcfldd on 12.2? [17:09] nooper, i'm not quite sure that only the pid lockfile will help me... [17:12] dorin (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:12] dorin_ (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:25] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.96.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:26] java works, python works, latex works (tetex in slackware, texlive slackbuilds available), and mono has a slackbuilds too [17:27] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:27] ok, i'm assuming that latex is something similar to open office? [17:27] no [17:27] lol ok [17:27] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.0.144) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:27] its a scripting language for doing documents. [17:27] hello [17:27] you can script against it to make invoices/resumes etc. [17:27] ok gotcha [17:27] latex is awesome [17:27] can a piece memory be saved as a file? [17:27] latex is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX [17:28] <3 latex [17:28] hmmm, /dev/kcore ? [17:28] skibur: cat /dev/kmem > foo [17:28] :P [17:28] skibur: try 'strip /dev/kmem |grep 'yourpassword' [17:28] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:28] but as far as writing stuff is there a program that can format text without having to write a script [17:28] err i mean 'strings /dev/kmem ....' [17:28] Action: C_Tux has probably disabled that in his kernel [17:29] i just want to be able to write papers and format the paragraphs and fonts and such [17:29] depends on how organised you want to be phillipsm ;) [17:30] well i'm sure i can just write them in .txt and open them up in word in the lab before i print and format the stuff...i'm curious about slack because i'm really into web development and i keep hearing from thumbs that apache is way better in slack [17:30] as far as configuration [17:31] phillipsm: I'm sure you've already had different teachers handing you documents which just look the same (and nice), they were all using latex [17:31] pdflatex :) [17:31] nice [17:31] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] and as far as programs i thought i read that slack doesn't use packages so i have to compile everything from source? [17:32] hum... [17:33] slackware has binary packages available, and for what is outside of the base distro, use slackbuilds/sbopkg/slackbuilds.org [17:34] ok thanks :) [17:35] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] got my problem fixed how lma because the local append name to the kernel it wanted that in the source folder name too [17:35] s/lma/lame [17:36] dorin (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) joined ##slackware. [17:36] However machine number two that can't use vbox 3.0.0 because it spikes to 100 plus cpu usage [17:36] juice__: you need to recompile the kernel of the guest and enable a few things, most probably hpet [17:37] (enable any recent timer thing) [17:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] another question...how decent are wireless card drivers to use in slackware...my debian install see's my card but i get wmaster0:unrecognized hardware type when i run dhclient..and in ubuntu it worked right away in roaming mode [17:37] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:38] http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8xacb/virtualbox_300_is_out/c0aq37p [17:38] C_Tux Vbox goes to 100 usage as soon as lilo prompt starts [17:38] so it has nothing to do with kernel that I could see [17:38] phillipsm: it depends a lot on your chipset (but that's true for all distros). [17:38] its an atheros one if that helps... [17:38] But wmaster0 implies an access point interface. [17:39] juice__: it's not surprising that loading the kernel uses the whole cpu [17:39] Atheros has decent support, but you might want to run a fairly recent kernel if building it isn't a problem for you. [17:39] skatar (n=lupin@host252-41-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:39] juice__: have a look at the cursor : it probably doesn't blink quickly until acpi modules get loaded [17:39] hmm...well i guess i don't really understand why it won't work then...thats prolly why i havent been able to get it working using the wikis [17:39] Well, wmaster0 is an access point interface, you should be looking at wlan0, I think. [17:40] At least that's what mine's called. [17:40] C_Tux this never happend with any prior version [17:40] i know that it works in vista because i'm on the laptop wirelessly right now [17:40] juice__: didn't happen for me either [17:40] yes i understand its supposed to be wlan0 and i can see that interface but i can't get it to connect [17:40] juice__: and I bet the load goes down when you make the guest work... [17:40] okay I'll see [17:41] and i don't know how/if possible to set up the wlan0 interface using iwconfig if you have a wpa2 password on the network [17:41] Does anything go wrong if you feed it an ssid? [17:41] how do i corect this comand: " terminal -x exit " ? [17:41] no but it just doesn't work [17:41] You'll need wpa_supplicant for wpa2 [17:41] if i do an iwconfig it will show the ssid i gave it but no connection [17:41] the address is always a 169 one [17:41] dorin: correct it to do what? [17:42] oic [17:42] It'll associate without wpa_supplicant, but since it won't be able to authenticate, it won't get access. [17:42] oic [17:42] exemple : terminal -x pidgin& exit [17:42] it does not work ok [17:42] well i suppose i'll have to go back to the wikis for that [17:42] thanks for the help tho! [17:43] Yeah, specifically one about wpa_supplicant because as far as I can see, the card can associate just fine. [17:43] dorin: no : what do you want that to do ? I have no idea what terminal is (xfce's?) and I don't know what '-x' does, but what do *you* want? [17:43] does ubuntu have that installed by default then? thats probably why it worked out of the box [17:44] C_Tux: yes, terminal is xfce's. [17:44] Quite possibly, and I imagine it has some sort of network manager installed as well. [17:44] Now, you could use one of them network managers in Slackware as well. [17:44] like wicd? [17:44] nheco (n=nheco_nh@189-30-62-128.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:44] BUt I usually use wpa_supplicant from the command line. [17:44] Yeah, like wicd. [17:44] ok [17:44] C_Tux: and -x is for execute. [17:44] well i downloaded an iso for slackware 12 the other day now i just need to get some cd's so i can burn it [17:45] then i'll try it out [17:45] i use xfce terminal and i want to execute a comand in another terminal (terminal -x ) [17:45] fire|bird: I wasn't sure because xfce has Terminal iirc (uppercase 'T') [17:45] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5acfccc6.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] can slackware boot from grub? i don't really want to wipe everything to try it..prolly just slim down debian and put it side by side [17:45] if possible [17:45] phillipsm: if you want to try it manually, or use Slackware scripts, http://www.dkpw.co.uk/wp/?p=465 [17:46] C_Tux I have hept enabled, not sure about in the bios though [17:46] C_Tux: yeah, that's what xfce uses, but terminal (lowercase 't') also invokes xfce's terminal. [17:46] Not your card but you should be able to extract the info. [17:46] Skip to the "You are using WPA.." part :) [17:46] juice__: no, you need to change the _guest_ kernel [17:47] fire|bird: I noticed quite recently that both worked but I remember about one year ago, it didn't p [17:47] yep that looks like a good source thanks...what about the above ? ^^ [17:47] And yes, it can boot with grub, but it requires some tinkering. [17:47] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [17:47] ok. tinkering how? [17:47] you have to configure grub or slack? [17:48] C_Tux it has it [17:48] it is enabled [17:48] grub arggg [17:48] in the "guest" [17:48] haha nheco: what would you prefer? [17:48] phillipsm: both, but I never use grub so I'm afraid I can't really help you with that. [17:48] switch_ (n=nobody@c-98-235-92-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] lilo ;) [17:48] siimples [17:48] x [17:48] oic [17:48] juice__: feel like recompiling a kernel for you guest? I have a good config but I don't know which exact part is needed =/ [17:49] (I'd pastebin the .config) [17:49] for xen.. grub.. arrggg [17:49] asdfdsfa [17:49] well i am really getting into linux but i havent had alot of experience customizing things in it so i'm afraid i havent done much other than install extra packages in standard installs [17:49] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5acfccc6.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] C_Tux I can if my host doesn't die [17:50] from memory and pcu being eaten up [17:50] ps/pcu/spu [17:50] gah [17:50] I clear typed cpu [17:50] good it works [17:50] juice__: it will probably survive ;) [17:50] okay [17:51] juice__: you ever get vbox to build against your kernel source? [17:51] yes [17:51] as I said, load on the host goes back to normal when load on the guest increases :) [17:51] C4ntu (n=c4ntu@189-11-116-8.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:51] juice__: gah, the vm is on my external hard drive [17:51] faaaaar [17:52] it was the local append in the kernel causing the problem or the fact I didn't call the source folder name with the local append at the end [17:52] phillipsm: well, using Grub with Slackware is in the "advanced" category, I'm afraid. [17:52] juice__: oh, forgot to mention you could disable acpi too, that will work around the problem :) [17:52] C_Tux no rush [17:52] BUT if Debian has a GUI tool or something that allows you to select a boot partition, it's not too hard. [17:52] C_Tux let me try that [17:53] Maybe even stage it and let Grub boot into LILO so you won't need to bother with Grub in Slackware at all, but you can still boot it from your existing Grub. [17:53] oic..well i guess i was foolish to think i could install them side by side...and i do think you can mark a boot partitio using gparted right? [17:54] Yes but that's not enough to boot it from Grub... or rather, it's on a different level. [17:54] thats what i was thinking i would have to do when you said it was hard with grub alone [17:54] phillipsm: you don't have a separate partition for boot, right ? you have /boot/grub/menu.lst ? [17:54] no didn't help [17:54] still high load [17:54] yes that is right [17:54] C_Tux: ^ [17:55] juice__: you disabled acpi in vbox options or in the kernel command-line ? [17:55] hmm maybe it did help now [17:55] it spiked up then dropped off [17:55] ls [17:56] okay I can live with the cpu usage now [17:56] phillipsm: you'd have to edit that file to reflect the installation of slackware, OR (exclusive or) you could let slackware install lilo too and auto-detect your other installation(s), both are safe ways [17:56] stayed below 35% once the vbox was loaded up [17:57] C4ntu (n=c4ntu@189-11-116-8.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [17:57] juice__: yeah, the kernel uses a lot of cpu poer in the begining, don't forget it starts by ungzip'ing itself [17:57] yeah [17:57] but like you said with apci enabled it never drops off [17:57] juice__: and zi curs0r, it blinks normally? [17:57] err acpi [17:57] rhys (n=quassel@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:58] let me reboot and see [17:58] forgot to check that [17:58] but before was super fast [17:58] Nick change: rhys -> Guest12413 [17:58] what I did was to disable acpi and compile the kernel inside the vbox (no, I didn't want to cross-compile the kernel ;p ) [17:58] ic [17:59] C_Tux: when i install slack will it try and wipe everything out or will it automatically recoginize other partitions and allow me to shrink the old one and put it side by side? [17:59] yeah cursor blinks regular now [17:59] i guess the better question is does slack have a gui installation interface? [17:59] that makes that easy [17:59] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:59] haha sorry i just said doing something in slack was easy [17:59] Nick change: Guest12413 -> rhys [18:00] phillipsm: no [18:00] (no gui installer that is) [18:00] ok [18:02] well i suppose i should just install it on my other computer then first to try it out cuz i have everything but wireless setup the way i want it now on this one and i don't wanna change everything to test it out [18:02] i'm confident i can figure it out but i want a computer that i can actually accomplish the things i'm already doing on it now before i wipe it out [18:03] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [18:04] you can install side-by-side [18:04] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [18:08] ok...well then do i need to shrink the deb partition before i try and install? i guess what i'm asking is if i can tell it to resize partitions inside the installer whether its gui or not [18:08] christian (n=christia@kobz-590ef557.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "Verlassend" [18:09] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.249) left irc: "Leaving." [18:11] comrad [18:11] you there? you know some french, no ? [18:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBXeXBpTVOk [18:11] sickest song [18:14] jeev: /me stays away from ... that [18:14] eviljames is geographically closer to Garou fwiw :D [18:16] phillipsm: I've never resized my partitions (never had the use to) so I can't tell you, but inside the installer, you have most probably have the command-line tools required to shrink your partition (ext3, right ?) [18:17] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-101-42.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] yes [18:18] C_Tux sikest song ever [18:18] i would think so..i guess i've never installed slack so i dont know 100% [18:19] hey boys,, there is a slackbuild for ff3.5?? [18:19] phillipsm: if you want, hang out a bit, someone has certainly already done that and will appear any moment soon :) [18:19] its comrad tux! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr3ZgN8onRA [18:19] anTraxc: I think so, but I don't know where it is :D [18:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:20] C_Tux:: i wanna just try.,, [18:21] will be realy revolutionary ?? [18:21] haha [18:22] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5acfccc6.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:22] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:24] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:26] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] anyone running slack13-rc/current having cpu's running at 50% in kde4? [18:29] anyone happen to have the tetris song in mp3 format [18:32] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-088-111.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] jeev, why don't you go to youtube, and use an online converter [18:33] youtube-dl [18:34] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.80.215) left irc: "leaving" [18:34] i did already [18:35] damn all you to lazy people's hell [18:36] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.100) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:36] lol [18:36] damn you! you blew it up! damn you all to hell! - Charleton Heston - planet of the apes [18:38] blew what up? [18:38] you never seen that movie? [18:38] jeev: the Tetris song is called Korobushka [18:38] RipVanWinkle: I saw that movie when I was about 10--20 years ago [18:39] jeev: Korobushka is a Russian folk song, so you should be able to find a free version easily [18:39] charlten heston seen the statue of liberty on the beach destroyed and he cursed mankind for destroying civilization] [18:39] when he got back, or what? [18:40] switch_ (n=nobody@c-98-235-92-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:41] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5acfccc6.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] rhys (n=quassel@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:43] when he was on the run from the ape army that was chasing him [18:45] so they chased him to Earth? [18:46] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [18:46] watch the movie again, there is a newer one out than the one you seen, its good [18:49] I would rather watch the one with Charlton Heston [18:49] I do not really like remakes [18:49] gar0t0_ (n=tcosta@187.37.48.81) joined ##slackware. [18:50] korobushka rules [18:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432125.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:52] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:52] jeev: yes it does, and there is a similar song. I think one version of Tetris had 4 or 6 songs.... [18:52] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE67B4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [18:54] jeev: I think 'Troika' may be a similar one, though I am not sure it was on Tetris. Troika is a bit less intense but nice too. [18:54] I would have to listen to my tapes to be sure that is the one.... [18:55] i'm gonna listen to Troika [18:55] i need to shorten this tetris song so i can put it on my phone [18:55] im too lazy and am on my laptop, iwhs i could do it from sox [18:56] Any idea why only one of my 2 clients does not see the 'mountd' when invoking rpcinfo -p theserver ? The other client does see it. Both clients are configured the same way :/ [18:56] firewall? ;D [18:56] showmount -e ip [18:57] jeev: yeah exports file is correct [18:58] I see *.my.lan [18:58] clients are all sthg.my.lan [18:59] there's no firewall inside my home LAN [18:59] /etc/hosts.allow is correct too, just as /etc/hosts [18:59] tcpdump it and see what's going on [19:00] That worked before I update Slackware on that client [19:00] impossible to find sthg I'm pretty sure it's a simple thing [19:01] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] RipVanWinkle, wha do ou use for flv to mp3 [19:01] dunno how to use tcpdump, giving it a try [19:01] so sup all [19:01] what's a decent torrent client? [19:01] jeev: I wrote a youtube2mp3 script, you're welcome to it if you want [19:01] gtl: rtorrent [19:02] please ;) [19:02] _Jim_ (n=Jim@189.2.86.146) joined ##slackware. [19:02] http://dpaste.com/63255/ [19:02] snL20, thanks, i'll look on that [19:03] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [19:03] jeev: it uses mplayer or ffmpeg to do the conversion, and if it can find id3, mp3info, or id3ed, it'll create an ID3 tag with the youtube video ID so you can go find the video again [19:04] cool [19:05] it's also something kinda thrown together in a few hours, it might have bugs :) [19:05] snL, does rtorrent offers a gui like, say deluge or ktorrent? [19:05] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [19:05] jeev: let me know when you listen to it [19:06] gtl: if you're looking for a lightweight gui torrent client, you might try transmission [19:06] (OTOH, lots of people use ktorrent and they like it) [19:06] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] i didn't like troika [19:08] Urchlay, i tried transmission on ubuntu, i felt is somewhat uncapable of sustaining a stable down speed, switched to deluge and all was ok [19:08] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:08] ffmpeg doesn't even build hrmf [19:08] jeev: maybe it was something else then... was it quite different? [19:09] what the dilly is faad [19:09] I'm using gware, so no chance of using ktorrent (which I liked too when used kde) without building several deps... [19:09] no i love the korobushka song [19:10] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [19:10] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.100) joined ##slackware. [19:13] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [19:14] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:16] gtl: *shrug*, just throwing it out there. I use transmission and it does OK, but I haven't compared against anything else in a long time so maybe something else would work better [19:16] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [19:17] gtl: thought gware was "add gnome to slackware", not "get rid of KDE and replace it with gnome"? [19:17] what i like about transmission it has both a gtk client and a commandline tool transmissioncli so you dont need X running in order to use it [19:17] RipVanWinkle: yeah, that's a cool feature [19:18] hello, im getting "ImportError: /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_set_error_literal" when trying to start wicd-client, i have a hybrid system between 12.2 and current, i dont know what package in current provide or resolve this [19:18] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:19] guax: at a guess, either the package that contains /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0, or possibly the glib package (not glibc, glib!) [19:19] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.89.198) joined ##slackware. [19:19] Urchlay, ill try it [19:19] guax: I suppose you're already been told in here that it's a terrible idea to mix 12.2 and -current? [19:20] not exactly, that system is a 11.0 originaly =P i've been learning what shit i am able to do between updates [19:21] eh, well, it's your box, obviously you can do what you want... I recommend a complete upgrade to -current, or wait a bit and do a complete upgrade to 13.0 [19:22] i cant even freakin build ffmpeg! [19:22] im sleepy and i hate laptops [19:22] Urchlay, i dont want kde4, so i blacklist it in slackpkg and im doing the painfull slow update [19:22] checking dependencies and so on [19:22] kde4 is hot [19:22] im kde3 addicted for now [19:26] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [19:26] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-198-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:29] dorin_ (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) joined ##slackware. [19:30] i bet the problem is the hybrid system with software from several difference releases is your problem guax, you started with 11, then 12.2 & current, i bet the best solution would be to wipe the os off and do a clean install [19:31] i did a complete upgrade from major versions until 12.2 [19:31] dorin (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] forget upgrades, wipe the os off! then do a clean (i mean clean) install [19:32] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-182c9ffc.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] =P [19:33] that is, unless you enjoy mucking around with possible library version conflicts and kludege left over from previous installs causeing problems [19:33] RipVanWinkle, then i have to configure a lot of stuff, nah, everything is working by now, just wicd gone wild [19:34] i know what libgdk-pixbuf is and it is some old gtk1 library, some older versions of xmms used to depend on it [19:34] glib2 update solved it [19:34] just gotting a denied from dbus [19:34] getting [19:34] now [19:35] dbus & hal both are crap and i will be glad when both are obsoleted [19:35] =P [19:35] hal is the worse of the two [19:36] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [19:36] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-182c9ffc.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:36] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-182c9ffc.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] gar0t0_ (n=tcosta@187.37.48.81) left irc: "brb" [19:38] what is wrong w/ hal? [19:39] RipVanWinkle, got it, just had to put my user in the netdev group [19:39] rhys (n=quassel@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] hal needs to die, as soon as it gets to version 9000 it will try to take over the world, it goes by other names like skynet ;p [19:40] lol [19:40] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-182c9ffc.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:41] PACKAGE NAME: hal-0.5.11-i486-5.txz [19:41] humm... 0.5 to 9000. i think i can live with it until that [19:45] rhys (n=quassel@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:46] guax: yeah, it's got a ways to go. :P [19:49] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "later" [19:50] dorin_ (n=dorin@92.85.172.170) left irc: "Leaving" [19:51] Action: guax made some weird name lib update and is fearing to reboot [19:51] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:51] show some cahones and reboot [19:52] Action: fire|bird reboots guax's computer and watches guax sit and look at the screen in horror. [19:53] i wonder if guax keeps a live CD or bootable usb thumbdrive around to save data before the big disk wipe [19:53] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:54] at least that way you can save personal data, like /home/* [19:54] probably not if he's fearing a reboot. :) [19:56] RipVanWinkle: how's it going? [19:56] Urchlay, true, it is something like "add gnome to Slackware" and not "get rid of KDE and replace with gnome" [19:56] i just didn't install the KDE packages [19:56] i think it is a good idea to keep /home mounted as a separate disk partition so if you do have to wipe the OS you dont lose that data [19:57] RipVanWinkle: that's what I always do, that way, I can easily reinstall and not lose anything. I just tell the installer to not wipe /home [19:57] RipVanWinkle, yeah... i'd say it's a best practice [19:58] iluminator101 (n=iluminat@ool-4578d704.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Hi, can someone tell me what ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE) is? [19:59] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.20) joined ##slackware. [20:00] RipVanWinkle, it makes more sense to have in different disks with periodicaly backups [20:00] to /home [20:00] shonudo (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] yo [20:02] iluminator101: some kernel lingo about network cards :P [20:03] Hey macavity, how's it going? [20:03] maybe? [20:04] fire|bird: i'm about to attempt a gallium build [20:04] :O, nice. [20:04] Also how do enable psad to work with ip6? [20:06] is dtanner around? [20:06] gtl: haven't seen him today? gnome question? [20:06] err. s/?// [20:07] actually it's more of a gware related question... [20:08] gtl: yeah, that's why I said gnome. :P. I probably can't help, but what's the question. [20:08] esb (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] how it works with slackware-current [20:10] gtl: not sure. I asked him the same yesterday, he doesn't know. [20:10] haha! [20:10] kk, thanks anyway [20:11] gtl: So, it's more a ymmv, you can try it, if it works, excellent, if it doesn't, it's easy to uninstall. [20:11] true [20:12] gtl: I may be giving it a shot myself. He did say that if I tried it, he'd be interested in how it goes. So, if you do give it a shot, let him know, or if he's not around at the time, I can let him know as well. [20:12] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.42) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:12] kk [20:13] fire|bird, yeah, i'll try it tomorrow, have friends visiting [20:13] later all [20:13] later gtl [20:13] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.136.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [20:14] sombriks (n=sombriks@201.9.86.178) joined ##slackware. [20:16] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.80.215) joined ##slackware. [20:17] fire|bird: have you seen my custom color job on midnight commander? go to imagebin.org and look for two entries with my nic on them [20:18] i removed that awful blue background and repaced it with black [20:18] RipVanWinkle: ok, I'll check it out. [20:18] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:19] the way all good commandline tools should be, and without losing the syntax highlighting in the editor or the foreground colors in the file manager [20:19] that looks really nice. [20:20] thANKS [20:20] darn capslock button~! [20:21] anTraxc (n=gts@189-015-244-032.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [20:22] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] iluminator101 (n=iluminat@ool-4578d704.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. 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[20:34] man, you guys are unreasonably boring tonight :P [20:34] it's a holiday :P [20:34] ok, everybody do their part to keep macavity entertained [20:34] if you dont start coughing up with some goodies i will startling about gallium [again] [20:34] would any of you throw in soy sauce to make a marinade for pork chops [20:35] raela: all the more reason to party with the fellowship of geeks, nerds and wizards :P [20:35] nix_chix0r: sure [20:35] nix_chix0r: of course [20:35] oh, and whiches :P [20:35] if you need to add a little saltiness [20:35] macavity: my dad starts ragging on me when I do :P [20:35] soy sauce is very salty so be careful how much you use [20:35] i have the low sodium kind and it doesnt taste the same as the regular stuff so i was worried about flavor [20:36] oh [20:36] get the normal kind [20:36] nix_chix0r: lime juice, soy sauce and black pepper [20:36] make a test piece? [20:36] yeah i got limes that sounds good [20:36] nix_chix0r: in that case, a little salt too [20:36] you know how to make gravy out of the crumbles and the grease in the skillet, (brown some flower in it and then add some milk while stirring) [20:37] yeah it's called a rue and am probally spelling it wrong [20:37] nix_chix0r: btw, there is kikoman soy and there is all the rest of the crap :P [20:37] its how i make it [20:37] i seen those marinades but i'm in my comfy clothes and dont feel like going to the store haha [20:37] pork chops with taters & gravy is the best! [20:37] and i have olive oil and vinegar so i was thinking hmm marinade [20:38] ditch the vinegar in this sceario [20:38] use plenty of lime juice instead [20:38] and if you have ginger... [20:38] i have ginger paste not fresh at the momment [20:38] Action: macavity turns into the swedish cook from Muppet Show [20:38] ginger paste will work [20:39] macavity: bork bork bork! [20:39] ginger, soy sauce, little olive oil , salt pepper, and lime juice? [20:39] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-182c9ffc.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-182c9ffc.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:39] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: "Leaving" [20:39] so: olive oil, soy sauce, ginger paste, plenty of lime joice, salt pepper [20:39] nix_chix0r: id say a 1/3 of the done compound should be olive oil [20:40] nix_chix0r: otherwise its going to stick to the frying pan like hell [20:40] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:40] i could be lazy and just use some of that famous daves sauce but i dont want bbq sauce tonight [20:40] *snif* [20:40] so that sounds good. and i was going to grill it [20:40] BORK BORK BORK [20:40] ahahah [20:41] :P [20:42] BP{k}: do you remember the one where i is about to boil a lobster alive? [20:42] I thought it is better not to fry olive oil but use something else.... [20:42] I fry with olive oil all the time [20:42] dchmelik: you should generally not excede 160 degress celcius when frying in olive oil [20:42] vegetables and fish [20:43] dchmelik: ... but that generally holds true for any kind of trying [20:43] well olive oil has a lower point at which it makes smoke than other oils [20:43] regular olive oil is better for frying than extra virgin, extra virgin will burn easily [20:43] and when an oil smokes it is carcinogenic [20:43] dchmelik: yes, 160 degrees for virgin oil [20:43] oh, ok... [20:44] hackeron (n=hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:44] I am building a scale model of the Parthenon and will put some olive twigs by it.... [20:44] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [20:44] dchmelik: but the food turns carcinogenic at around the same temperature, so its no use to have an oil that doesnt smoke untill 200 degrees :P [20:44] raela (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: "latert" [20:44] macavity: oh yeah, I guess I had read that too.... [20:45] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust404.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] dchmelik: personally i prefere to fry in rape seed oil, since it doesnt smoke or saturate untill above 180 degrees.. but that is because i like my stakes to be crisp on the outside and raw in the middle (yes, i know you dont get it any more unhealthy than that) [20:46] peanut oil is good too [20:46] and the bonus is that rape seed oil is virtually tasteless [20:46] RipVanWinkle: no, it tastes like... peanuts :P [20:46] itdoes not [20:47] RipVanWinkle: but its good for grilling corn roles :P [20:47] macavity: lies. [20:47] I rarely even fry anything anymore [20:47] macavity: complete raw steak is more unhealthy ;) [20:47] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.166.2) joined ##slackware. [20:47] _Jim_ (n=Jim@189.2.86.146) left irc: [20:47] BP{k}: that depends on what effect you fear the most :P [20:47] BP{k}: apparently you dont get cancer from raw meat... only cardial problems [20:48] I do not see why you would not still get cancer from it [20:49] it puts a great deal of stress on the body.... [20:49] dchmelik: its the free carbon you get cancer from [20:49] i actually wonder why [20:49] humans have not been preparing their meat for more than about 100K years or so :P [20:50] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:50] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:50] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] or is it only 20K, i dont remember [20:50] and they have been dying by age 30 for most of that time too.... [20:51] oh well.. details, details [20:51] i still want my stake both crisp and bloody :P [20:52] i dont drink and i dont smoke and i dont do drugs... i want *some* kind of vice ;-) [20:52] i think Dr. Livingstone ended up in the belly of a lion [20:53] RipVanWinkle: did anyone bother to tell the lion that it should roast said doctor slowly, to make sure he was well done, yet not crusty? [20:54] I consider animal products to be drugs, though I take hits of chocolate and tea.... [20:54] dchmelik: define "animal products"? [20:54] flesh, eggs, milk [20:54] Action: twolf eats some bacon [20:54] dchmelik: fish? [20:55] they have flesh, right? or are you talking about eating them in a dream for example? [20:55] ok [20:55] i only consider a substance a drug if it was synthised in a laboratory by a mad scientist, natural products are herbs [20:55] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:55] i consider fish to be a "lesser kind of animalistic" [20:56] so do I, actually [20:56] fish are tasty too [20:56] frankly i only consider mammel to be "real animal" when it comes to food [20:56] oh yes, fish is good eating.. but it does *not* satisfy my inner cave man [20:57] likewise with reptiles [20:57] roasted red meat on a stick over an open fire [20:57] .. and poultry [20:57] raw tuna and salmon are kind of meat like [20:57] bird is right on the edge.. chicken is not real animal flesh.. but duck is (go figure) [20:58] but i know.. i am rather emotional when it comes to food [20:58] BP{k}: you know what i am talking about here, dont you? :P [20:58] bbl [20:58] I don't discriminate when it comes to food, I will eat about anything if it is prepared well [20:58] l8r [20:59] twolf: so will i.. but some dishes will only satisfy the hunger [20:59] indeed [20:59] twolf: not the killer instinc [20:59] t [20:59] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:59] who wants coffee? :P [21:00] hoho (n=email@190.166.153.114) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:00] Action: thumbs does [21:00] macavity: email me a hot cup of java ;) [21:00] gnubien: awww.. i only have Arabica :-/ [21:00] macavity: of course ;) [21:01] BP{k}: had any meat bowls lately? [21:01] so i fudged up a marinade [21:01] it tastes alright [21:01] nix_chix0r, you fail [21:01] nix_chix0r: its a combo that is hard to do wrong :P [21:02] macavity: nope, not had any buhkits lately .. sadly enough :\ [21:02] if worst comes to worst there is some steak sauce [21:02] haha [21:02] and mixing your own carefully selected ingredients hardly constitutes "to fudge" [21:02] i would like to try the kikoman marinades . or was it lowrys [21:02] nix_chix0r: if it tastes good it is a success :D [21:02] kikoman makes soy sauce [21:03] well yeah [21:03] good one too [21:03] but i think they have some marinades [21:03] ok.. never seen those [21:03] i generally dont do pre-raped products [21:03] err.. premixed [21:03] what are those called in english? [21:04] fully-made-for-micro-oven-or-just-lazy-or-lame-people-products? [21:04] check the website i did just to be sure [21:04] they have some thick ones [21:05] think 30minutes so i'll start the grill in 5 [21:06] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:07] Can Slackware64-current program a replicator to make me a cup of Earl Grey? [21:07] since the NCC-1701 was probably not 64-bit but we should have this tech. now? [21:08] Action: macavity scratches his head [21:08] I recall it being mentioned people used pencils on NCC-1701 instead of computers all the time, so.... [21:08] dchmelik, absolutely, slackware64-current is turing complete, so yes, you can program it to do anything provided you have the appropriate hardware [21:09] neat, but I forgot what turing complete means. I guess that means it functions properly.... [21:09] dchmelik: all you need is a well trained girlfriend ;) [21:09] that is, except solving NP hard problems in P time... [21:10] oh wait... "appropriate hardware" would fix that :P [21:10] :) [21:10] nondeterministic CPU are just in bloody short supply [21:10] they made a quantum processor a few days ago.... [21:10] I think it was just 2-qubit though.... [21:10] uhm, yet another quantum processor (that cant be used in the real world either) [21:11] so this has happened before? [21:11] they probably made some progress in some area that you need to be a specialist in the field to understand [21:12] but no, its not like the NSA can pwn your 384 bit AES in .1µs tomorrow [21:13] wait, I see they had food synthesizers in ST:TOS sometimes... sort of contradicting my earlier joke. [21:13] ST:TOS? [21:13] Star Trek: the original series [21:13] ah [21:14] I thought most people here would know that [21:14] sorry.. i'm not a trekkie [21:14] np [21:14] i'm more of a Star Wars person [21:15] ok, Babylon 5 was goddamn good too [21:15] I like Star Wars but got bored of seeing new SF when Babylon 5 came out.... [21:15] actually at the time I had no tv [21:15] talking of which.. time to go go torrent client :P [21:16] Battle of The Planets [21:17] dchmelik: wikipedia says that isaac asimov, the s.f. author, was a consultant to roddenberry for the original star trek series [21:17] neat [21:17] scifi author [21:17] I have read some of his books [21:18] the i-robot series is pretty good, the foundation series by asimov is his penultimate [21:18] I have not gotten to those... I only have read Norby [21:19] gnubien: his what? [21:19] ahh [21:19] missing space [21:19] Action: macavity got pwned by dyslexia [again] [21:20] macavity: english is a very difficult first language imho ;) [21:20] gnubien: i wouldnt know.. its hard enough as a seccond language :P [21:23] fireworks are popping all over at this time here in florida, they have a legal form you have to sign saying you are using the fireworks to scare away birds :) [21:23] heh, I usually think that my english is better than my neighbours and those living in this area. [21:23] i misspelled second, guess my repeat rate on my keyboard is to quick :) [21:23] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] and you misspelled "i". ;-) [21:24] yoo [21:25] BPK whats crackalackin [21:25] ? [21:25] BP{k}: you live in the backwarter suburbia of Manchester, dont you? :P [21:25] macavity: pretty much, yes. :) [21:25] BP{k}: i bet a grammar teacher would have a heart attack by reading posts in most irc channels ;) [21:25] BP{k}: Manchester alone would explain it ;-) [21:25] macavity: shush :) [21:26] teehee [21:26] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:26] macavity: what is your native language? [21:26] gnubien: trust me, this place is *not* bad, even taken the number of foreigners into consideration [21:27] RipVanWinkle: Danish [21:27] RipVanWinkle: og det er så det sprog du ikke gidder lære mere om, så vær sød ikke at spørge mere til det :-) [21:27] macavity: agreed, i can usually decipher what ppl post on this channel [21:27] no comprende [21:27] "and that is the language you dont bother learning more about, so be kind and not ask more about it" :P [21:27] macavity: ja ja, nou kan je wel ophouden en gewoon op het engels overgaan. ;) [21:28] me no habla danish [21:28] cyb3r3li0g (n=eguzman@63.100.62.66) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] BP{k}: actually i think i can decipher that.. mostlykindasortaish :P [21:29] ah good ;) [21:29] gnubien: dutch is a mishmash of genlish, german, french and old norse :P [21:30] *english [21:30] nice mix [21:30] most danes learn it quickly [21:30] claudius (n=claus@115.64.167.202) joined ##slackware. [21:30] claudius (n=claus@115.64.167.202) left ##slackware. [21:30] its just the french mud that causes us trouble [21:30] bah 80-90% of the Dutch speak english anway. [21:31] BP{k}: not to each other i take it :P [21:31] if english were not the default language in most channels then ppl in usa would be mute, use is monolingual mostly [21:32] usa is monolingual mostly [21:32] That sounds like a plan! [21:32] gnubien: i think you just gave us a solution to a rather big problem ;-) [21:32] sombriks (n=sombriks@201.9.86.178) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:32] phillipsm (n=IceChat7@173-20-28-28.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:32] macavity: nope, but kethry has no problem really getting things done around the village where I used to live. Happily send her to the shop to get things for me. ;) [21:32] sollen wir nicht allen deutch sprechen den? [21:33] thanks to a lot of mexican immigration there is a lot of spanish language in the usa, especially the southwest usa, spanish language tv and radio is common [21:33] rob0: which language besides english should be spoken here? [21:33] BP{k}: right.. but lets face it, she is def, so she doesnt get annoyed by constant conversation around her that she doesnt understand.. that is my main sour grape with going to countries where i dont speak the language [21:34] gnubien: bash. ;) [21:34] good choice ;) [21:34] gnubien: german? sweedish? who cares.. i'll probably learn it a lot quicker than the US'ers, since i speak five other ones all ready :P [21:34] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: "Leaving" [21:35] agreed, multilingual ppl learn other languages faster [21:35] macavity: yeah true, although she does hear a bit through her hearing aids. [21:35] only the first 2 other than your native one are hard [21:35] BP{k}: ah, ok, i thought she was 100% def [21:35] gnubien: Igpay atlinay. [21:35] noooes [21:36] i wanna learn inuit and build igloos ;) [21:36] that fuckes up my dyslexia SO bad :P [21:36] Inuit might be some good choices too. Or Navajo. [21:36] rob0: good choice ;) [21:37] rob0: it took me *hours* to figure out that Oldway_Ogiefay was Old_Fogie [21:37] btw, when was the last time someone saw the old fogie? [21:37] Navajo was used in WWII by the US military, for secure communications in the Pacific theatre.. [21:37] macavity: take her hearingaids out and she is. Her hearingaids are actually quite powerful, she probably picks about 50% of the sound up, the rest is guesswork based on the sentences, body language and pure utter guesswork. [21:38] BP{k}: s/utter/educated/ [21:38] macavity: Yeah. It's one of the reasons we actually occasionally discuss stuff through IRC rather than talking to each other, especially when she's tired. [21:38] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-129-109.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] thats a given [21:38] i bet she has a killer typing rate for a non-geek :P [21:38] urmom's a given [21:39] ... [21:39] macavity: she does :) [21:40] mine is actually getting worse.. i dont have the time to chat on IRC that i used to [21:40] and since i dont make reports at uni anymore, i actually get very little practice [21:41] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [21:41] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:41] oh, movie is soon done [21:41] speaking of typing, what is the best keyboard you ever used? [21:42] anything that isnt a microsoft natural [21:42] gnubien: a cheep ass noname keyboard [21:42] cheap [21:42] yea, the cheap $10 keyboard work well imho [21:42] gnubien: das keyboard II [21:43] gnubien: i bought a noname computer (back when K6-2 200MHz was something), and it is *still* my favorite keyboard [21:43] 104 keys on keyboard? [21:43] gnubien: though, i had to spend a DIN<->PS2 adapter on it :P [21:43] gnubien: yes [21:44] i liked the memorex spill proof 104 key keyboard the best, slim, low profile, easy typing [21:45] costs $5 bux at a discount store [21:46] my cheapster is more than spill proof... i have taken it to the shower quite a few times [21:46] kinky. ;) [21:46] lots of keyboards are fried from a cola spill [21:47] or something else.. mostly spilled while watching documentary movies about the human mating ritual [21:49] btw, it is annoying that rar format cant be uncompressed in a multithreaded manner... [21:49] is there nothing p0rn cant do? ;) [21:49] such algorithms sucks [21:50] gnubien: it cant fix rar format.. [21:50] macavity: what's the speed limit on highway 69? lickety split ;) [21:50] :P [21:51] geez.. it almost takes as long to uncompress as it takes to download it :-/ [21:52] my isp filters p0rn so not a problem for me [21:52] gnubien: O_O [21:52] gnubien: uhm, actually this isnt prøn, but that aside [21:53] do you guys know if slackbuilds for 12.2 are safe to use for slack 13 rc1 ? [21:53] gnubien: how can you accept cencorship like that? [21:53] Scuzz: for the most part yes.. it something refuses to compile, then no :P [21:53] hahah [21:53] thanx [21:53] Scuzz: you are not trying to build something that goes into kernel land, are you? [21:53] no [21:53] Scuzz: eg, just a regular app or lib or something? [21:53] trying to get vdr installed [21:54] every distro seems to have a package but slackware [21:54] but i refuse to switch to ubuntu [21:54] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-18-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:54] SBo has a build for vdr? [21:54] no [21:54] ERROR: Package "vdr" not found. [21:55] but i need ffmpeg and so on [21:55] whatis vdr? [21:55] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-19-141.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:55] video disk recorder [21:55] ah [21:55] lets me watch my satellite dvb card on my pc or tv [21:55] to make SVCDs [21:55] ? [21:55] ah [21:55] okies [21:56] let me know how that fares [21:56] its kind of like mythtv [21:56] lol i will [21:56] i am considering how to build a media center [21:56] vdr is the way to go [21:56] we have a seriously sucky cable provider, so we want to switch to satelite [21:56] do you know if there are any linux supported satelite card readers? [21:57] there is cardsharing programs out for linux [21:57] so yes there is [21:57] ah, nice [21:57] Pumpkins1979 (i=500@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] if i had a cardsharing server going , you would be able to connect to my subscription and receive the same programming on your pc [21:58] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] the genpix skywalker dvb card can receive both dishnet and bell expressvue HD channels [21:59] now to jsut get it to work in slackware [21:59] oh, Pat has forgotten .mkv in /etc/DIR_COLORS [21:59] Action: macavity sends email [22:03] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-129-109.home.cgocable.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:03] anyone use dosbox much? will it build and run on linux without x installed? or does it require an x windows system? [22:05] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:08] I seriously doubt dosbox needs X [22:08] I use it sometimes [22:08] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:09] I think I ran it from console [22:09] in fact that may be the best way [22:09] dosbox uses x [22:09] dos != always cli [22:11] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:12] so far it is building, have not run it yet, [22:14] i have a couple of old dos games from the win9x days, i might as well see if i can play em on this old laptop [22:16] shonudo (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:17] I think dosbox is graphical, not sure if it works with any other graphical options. But it should work with X. [22:18] vesa2 framebuffer maybe (keeps my fingers crossed) [22:19] nope, it just errored out [22:19] ok.. who knows how to investigate what in the kernel that is eating up an entire core? [22:20] i just started a matroska video, and one core goes to 100% [22:20] top says xine is using 10% [22:20] and *nothing* happens with xine [22:21] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:21] it doesnt seem to be leaking memory at least [22:23] intel_gpu_top doesnt seem worried about the situation either [22:26] TeraByteS (n=terabyte@189.77.186.219) joined ##slackware. [22:27] darn! even dosemu requires X, dos emulators should not require X, its friggin dos! [22:27] and how do you propose to emulate BIOS Video Extention without X? [22:29] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5/20090624012820]" [22:29] oh well, i have a freedos live cd [22:31] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] sleepytime, gotta go [22:35] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:36] switch_ (n=nobody@c-98-235-92-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.26.82) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:50] fati (n=brian@c-71-238-167-164.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [22:59] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] has anyone had any problem with the latest wicd in current? (1.6.1) [23:02] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) left irc: [23:03] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.94.251) joined ##slackware. [23:03] i keep getting an dbus error so i can't start the client but i still get an ip during boot [23:03] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) joined ##slackware. [23:03] you need to be in the netdev group [23:04] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:07] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] I took apart a gyroscope and could not get it back together [23:07] a long time ago [23:07] but it is said people that can put things back together are great hackers.... [23:08] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:08] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [23:08] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [23:09] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:09] TeraByteS (n=terabyte@189.77.186.219) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [23:11] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.100) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:11] anyone know of a vocoder program for linux? [23:12] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] Thanks you for the help XGizzmo_ :) [23:13] brklynRednek, there's a vocoder plugin for audacity [23:14] fati, is it part of the source package or is it different download? [23:15] i believe it's part of the source package [23:15] i haven't installed anything extra and have it with the 1.3.7 beta [23:17] grillin turned out great [23:20] raela (n=raela@cpe-098-025-047-136.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:21] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.32.32.15) joined ##slackware. [23:27] user8902 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-149-228.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:29] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-137-254.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:31] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:35] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) joined ##slackware. [23:37] anerkoS (i=matt@adsl-64-160-118-3.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] everyone here like linuxcd.org? [23:38] anerkoS (i=matt@adsl-64-160-118-3.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:43] nille_: No problem. [23:44] bot-net (n=void@173-10-121-181-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] oh hai [23:45] i just installed slackware 13-rc1 i am getting configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables often, but not always...any idea? [23:46] nheco (n=nheco_nh@189-30-62-128.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [23:46] bot-net: did you do a full install? [23:46] yes i did [23:48] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:53] bot-net: slackbuilds? [23:53] fati (n=brian@c-71-238-167-164.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] yes, and also just running 'make' in the source directory [23:54] it doesnt always happen, but with some packages this occurs [23:55] bot-net: you need to pass ARCH=x86_64 to the slackbuild or it is going to try and build an i486 package. [23:55] i am using sbopkg, how can i do that? [23:56] can i just add it to the conf file? [23:57] Since when did Slackware have RCs? [23:58] since a long time [23:58] when i run "./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib64" i get the same error [23:58] bot-net: this will be addressed in the next major version of sbopkg. [23:59] okay [23:59] for now, try exporting ARCH in your environment or on the cli before running sbopkg or adding it to your sbopkg.conf file [00:00] --- Sun Jul 5 2009