[00:00] he was selling drugs [00:00] That was dartmouth. [00:00] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [00:00] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*cpunches@72.95.96.*' by rworkman!3356@about/slackware/rworkman [00:00] cpunches kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [00:00] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!3356@about/slackware/rworkman [00:00] Phist. [00:01] ahhhhhhh........I guess maybe he was changing nicks and was someone else earlier that caused mahem or something ? [00:02] ahhh...ok [00:02] Action: telemarketer shrugs his shoulders....... [00:02] He should become a meth-addled writer, not a computer person. [00:02] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:03] I am still talking to him, he doesn't seem rude or anything [00:03] I am still surprised he was banned [00:03] Shit doesn't stink from far enough away either. [00:03] tsccof: as often repeated here .. rest asured that he wasn't banned for no reason. There is a *VERY* long standing history . [00:04] tsccof, he's been banned in the past. he's just evadin [00:04] evading [00:04] rworkman: not all shit stinks, rofl [00:04] Action: telemarketer is new here and quietly sips his tea [00:04] It's still shit though, isn't it? :) [00:04] Chris is a fairly bright young man with some really wacky ideas. Those ideas prevent him from learning. Bagira was pretty well behaved this time, but Chris is known for trolling and kicking up a fuss. [00:05] rworkman: sure, but that is yet to be found out, not by the way it smells [00:05] tsccof, if a dog takes a shit in the forest, do you smell it ? [00:05] I don't know how rworkman knew bagira=dartmouth, but I doubt he would have done that without some evidence. [00:05] jeev: depends on the wind? ;) [00:05] usually not until you step in it :) [00:05] jeev: depends on a thousand things [00:05] poodle or great dane? [00:06] From: bagira [00:06] lol [00:06] oh haha [00:06] One would believe that it would be left, not taken. [00:06] did the dog have a curry vindaloo before hand? [00:06] good one [00:06] i was about to say rworkman has worked for the bush administration so he knows how to just say "it's this guy, lets take him out" [00:06] but this time there is evidence. [00:06] BP{k}: lol......ewwww* [00:07] BP{k}, i wish i had curry [00:07] i haven't had indian in a month.. [00:07] oh great, now i want it [00:07] From what I know of Chris, it does not surprise me that bagira was him. And in due time the trolling and fuss would have ensued, I am sure. [00:07] jeev: one of the advantages of living in Manchester, UK. The Curry Mile :) [00:08] tsccof, telemarketer: this has been going on for years. It's incredible. [00:08] ummm.........okay robo :) [00:08] who was asking about what else I do with the old pentium 125 mhz machine ? [00:09] BP{k}: heard that before...Rushmere,or somthin' [00:09] BP{k}, hmm. is everything in UK expensive? or just london [00:09] rob0: o.o [00:09] jeev: generaly speaking the cost of living in the UK is relatively quite high [00:09] Sep 16 00:25:10 --- Received a CTCP PING from chris_punches [00:09] Sep 16 00:25:11 --- Received a CTCP PING from chris_punches [00:09] Sep 16 00:25:41 --- Received a CTCP PING from chris_punches [00:09] zomg teh h4x0rz! [00:09] i spent around 100 pounds at heathrow for breakfast for two. [00:09] That fucker better watch himself or he'll find logs of his shit from years past all over the place. That was just a snippet :) [00:10] BP{k}, are all the women in UK ugly? :D [00:10] I must say I love this channel [00:10] MLanden: close, Rusholme, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_Mile [00:10] tsccof, because of me. right ? [00:10] sorry...rusholme* [00:10] it is not the "hey, don't talk about something else besides or we will castrate you" [00:10] jeev: sure, I love you lol [00:10] cool [00:10] jeev: nah. [00:11] tsccof, how many times have you been kidnapped in brazil ? [00:11] BP{k}: thanks...remember reading 'bout it...think had something to do with the music in the 90s [00:11] jeev: ??? [00:11] i dont know. [00:11] jeev: I am English born, living in one of the best cities in south america [00:12] jeev: german-austrian like [00:12] cool [00:12] i lived in germany once, i hope they win. [00:12] bagira: I know you're still in here somewhere, so in response to this: [00:12] jeev: 36000 people live here, it is a really nice place [00:12] 21:09 I will never not be a part of this community. [00:12] 1) you have no expectation of privacy. [00:12] \o/ [00:13] 2) stop being the pimple on its ass then. [00:13] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [00:13] jeev: I mean, south america has some REALLY great places, but they tend to be mostly built by germans/spanish/northern italians [00:13] buenos aires is a great city [00:14] the media sells a lot of this foggy thing, rio de janeiro really sucks [00:14] i dont know if i'd ever go to south america [00:14] <_misfit_> city of god? [00:14] and sao paulo has many good spots, but that doesn't add up to all the shit in there [00:14] sao paulo is good for visiting some places [00:15] rio is good for thinking "Hell, I will never go there" [00:15] adrien (~adrien@nautica.notk.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:15] adrien (~adrien@nautica.notk.org) joined ##slackware. [00:15] _misfit_: that and Rio de Janeiro itself [00:15] <_misfit_> :) [00:15] _misfit_: the state of Rio de Janeiro actually does have some rare villages made by Swiss people and Finnish [00:16] _misfit_: but I have never been there [00:16] <_misfit_> well if that movie is anything to relate to i wouldnt want to go there [00:16] <_misfit_> 10 year olds with 44's [00:17] <_misfit_> i think the gov't just puts the bad there for natural selection [00:17] _misfit_: it is, it is a good film, shows the truth, too bad no one there does anything to change it [00:17] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:17] tsccof: what 'bout Salvador in Bahia? [00:17] turk182 (~turk182@unaffiliated/turk182) joined ##slackware. [00:18] so if you lads want to visit south america, I would say uruguai, argentina, and in brazil there is a state called rio grande do sul, which is great, very european like, as argentina [00:18] and parana is fine as well [00:18] any hoarders here? [00:18] MLanden: terrible [00:18] <_misfit_> do the women fight over americans? [00:18] <_misfit_> :) [00:18] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) joined ##slackware. [00:18] hi [00:19] _misfit_: people in Brazil tend to have a very stupid mentality about USA [00:19] misfit, you can't be fat. [00:19] <_misfit_> damn [00:19] if you think you're going to go to brazil and get laid.. not gonna happen [00:19] <_misfit_> what if i bring nike shirts [00:19] you'd have to look more in america [00:19] misfit, adidas. [00:19] <_misfit_> ah [00:19] Action: turk182 looks guiltily at the deep fried burrito in his hand [00:20] wwhat the hell [00:20] deep fried burrito ? [00:20] I know. I am a pig. [00:20] i never knew they deep fried burritos [00:20] that reminds me of al pacino eating a burrito in a film [00:20] <_misfit_> lol that burrito in scarface looked tasty [00:20] well that makes me feel better lol [00:20] Action: telemarketer grabs the deep fried burrito and puts some sour cream on it [00:20] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) left irc: Client Quit [00:21] _misfit_: was there a burrito in scarface? [00:21] <_misfit_> i think at the very beginning when him and his brother got out [00:21] in the very beginning i think tony worked for a burrito place [00:21] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:21] <_misfit_> yea [00:21] _misfit_: I was thinking about another film where Pacino is a policeman, he is training a bunch of blokes and it is all a test for one of them [00:21] <_misfit_> oh yea the rookie [00:21] yea [00:21] <_misfit_> with colin farrel, youre right :D [00:21] and they eat a burrito in that [00:21] <_misfit_> now im hungry [00:22] hey ##slackware has to be like this, I think we should only talk about Linux when we want to or when someone asks questions [00:23] not being able to talk about many things, cutting people, is just bad for us [00:23] I reckon, at least [00:23] oftc is like that [00:23] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [00:23] mostly other channels are like "hi" "HEY, you are off topic" [00:23] tsccof, they say it here too but not when i'm here [00:23] they know better. [00:24] tsccof: yes and no. While off topic chatter is okay, it can distract if someone comes in with a genuine question for help [00:24] i make x files happen [00:24] moulders sister? me. [00:24] i made that happen [00:24] haha [00:24] tsccof: it's in the irc rules for #slackware if you look them up [00:24] BP{k}: you are right, I actually meant what you just said, but I didn't express myself correctly [00:25] jeev: myself as gay? you made it, when I first saw you [00:25] HA! [00:25] didn't foresee that, did you? [00:25] moslery (~mosley@mjwensley.plus.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:25] what?????????????? [00:25] lmao! [00:25] turk182: good ref on a Timothy Hutton flim...haven't seen that one in years [00:25] film* [00:25] 6 prr01lsanca-tge-1-1.lsan.ca.charter.com (96.34.3.5) 11.346 ms 10.873 ms 11.848 ms [00:25] 7 66.109.9.136 (66.109.9.136) 8.516 ms 8.684 ms 7.429 ms [00:25] 8 ae-2-0.cr0.lax30.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.130) 12.290 ms 15.135 ms 12.531 ms [00:25] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [00:25] talk about p2p! [00:25] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:25] MLanden: i was obsessed with it in college [00:25] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [00:25] gay. [00:26] jeev: I was only joking, it is all good f0n [00:26] MLanden: i even had a scarface myspace theme. [00:27] turk182: cool [00:27] MLanden: no you dont understand. i even had the scarface 'theme song' playing on it. In 2007. [00:28] loool [00:28] tu tu tu du tu ru pa pa fa fa ra pããããã [00:29] that is from Godfather [00:29] Action: turk182 is glad he's not the strangest person here [00:29] thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen [00:29] :P [00:29] you guys are weird [00:30] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.* expired. [00:30] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:30] jeev: thank you [00:30] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) joined ##slackware. [00:30] I still didn't build gtk+ [00:30] you didn't install the stock slack package? [00:31] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) left irc: Client Quit [00:31] turk182: yes, at first, and then I removed it and manually built it, but it is not working correctly [00:31] turk182: so I think I will just reinstall the default stock package for now [00:32] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) joined ##slackware. [00:32] turk182: Push it to the limit? 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[01:08] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:08] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.219) joined ##slackware. [01:10] jspider1010 (~spider101@189.sub-97-186-87.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [01:12] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:12] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] woh3 (will@67.232.145.174) left ##slackware. [01:13] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Excess Flood [01:14] i seem to be having a strange problem with 13.1 on my netbook, when i close the lid and reopen it, the screen turns on and its like its set to 3x4" or so, tiled across the whole expanse of the screen, then after about 3s, it expands and fills the screen but all my open programs are moved to the left.. [01:14] anyone experience anything similar? [01:15] i tried to use a desktop record program but it dies when i close the lid.. [01:15] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) joined ##slackware. [01:18] i_is_cat: what's the make/model? [01:18] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:18] hp mini 110-1030ca [01:19] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-14-192.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:20] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:20] i_is_cat: does it crash when it goes to standby? [01:21] i actually dont have it set to go on standby or hibernate or any of that stuff.. just turn off the monitor when closed [01:21] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:22] i_is_cat: what are the acpi settings? [01:23] ganeshix (~ele@rrcs-184-74-2-215.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:24] default i would assume, as i've not done anything with them.. [01:26] Traveler0 (~traveler@host148-217-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:26] hello. [01:26] Hello. [01:26] Is it safe to run an older version of slackware ? [01:26] Define safe? [01:26] crocket (~cupcake@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [01:27] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [01:27] I`m mostly concerned about the security updates latest versions [01:27] Traveler0: yes, all previous versions of slackware are stable, but you'll have trouble installing newer versions of things without gutting your system [01:27] yeah dont use an older version [01:27] I've tried FreeBSD, and noticed the base system doesn't have neccesary packages. ports collection has "make". It's interesting that FreeBSD itself doesn't have "make" package. [01:28] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:28] It lacks a lot of necessary packages indeed. [01:28] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:28] I think slackware can adopt this approach if PV is interested. [01:29] They can also include the x11 package like the other bsd`s do. [01:29] Anywyas, thanks [01:31] they do [01:31] Traveler0 older versions of slack are more vulnerable to security problems [01:31] pkg_add -r Xorg [01:31] Its not on the cd [01:31] habaneros (~habaneros@23.252.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:31] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:31] Even installing it with pkg_add takes time [01:31] I'd love PV if he transfers some of packages from slackware to slackbuilds. [01:32] What packages? [01:32] The one most wanted by me currently is libhangul. [01:33] probably compiz, too. [01:33] Uh [01:33] Or mplayer since slackbuilds avoids patent issues. [01:33] A tiling wm is the way to go :P [01:34] I don't think you understand what slackbuilds is... [01:34] well sbo in general [01:34] I don't understand well. [01:34] mplayer is available on slackbuilds [01:34] crocket: check out #slackbuilds [01:35] What`s the player that comes with slackware if you choose to do the full install? [01:36] Traveler0: xine is nice [01:36] I always use vlc [01:36] I heard some nice stuff about xine tho [01:36] try xine. you may like it. [01:37] and always do the full install unless you have a specialized purpose for the machine. [01:37] jd- (~jds@76.177.195.56) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:37] VLC is the best in my experience. [01:37] mplayer has fullscreen rendering issues [01:38] i aways loved xine, but vlc is conquering me [01:38] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [01:39] It's sad VLC is available only in alienBOB's repository not in slackbuilds for the broader exposure to people. [01:39] vlc just works, i like that [01:40] I wonder why isn`t it available, it`s a pretty common and used player. [01:40] woh3 (~will@67.232.145.174) joined ##slackware. [01:40] I noticed that VLC slackbuild has too many distfiles to be included in slackbuilds.org. [01:40] bacet (~justin@unaffiliated/bacet) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:41] is there some way I can make an image of my current system, with all my new installed packages etc so that I can reinstall from it without losing everything? Im tired of recompiling packages [01:41] Anyways there are alternatives and pretty nice ones so it`s not such a big loss afterall [01:41] woh3 : Use clonezilla. [01:41] looking it up now [01:42] Traveler0, What are alternatives to VLC? [01:42] mplayer [01:43] Do you know more? [01:44] clonezilla says the parition to be cloned has to be unmounted, what if I want to clone /? 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[02:07] oh ok [02:07] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:07] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:08] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:08] its just that Im running multi-lib, and was wondering if that would come through ok [02:08] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:09] woh3 : multi-lib wouldn't stop clonezilla. [02:09] clonezilla doesn't care what's in a partition or a disk. [02:12] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:12] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-14.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [02:13] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:14] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-26-5.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:15] bevil (~bevil@222.19.211.96) joined ##slackware. [02:18] woh3 (will@67.232.145.174) left ##slackware. [02:21] mikejc (~michael@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [02:21] holy crap [02:22] there are people in here [02:22] last time i was here, there were maybe 30 [02:22] mikejc: how long ago? [02:22] jesus, um, ten years [02:22] or more [02:22] big increase since autumn of '79 [02:23] hahaha 79 [02:23] lets see... there was a maldon, a robrock, pat lurked here, i don't remember the rest [02:23] 1979? [02:23] oh, clumens [02:23] yeah, he was here [02:24] i was dicking around with a slackppc port back then [02:24] parallel to 7 or 8? [02:25] i don't even remember. whats the current release? [02:25] i _was_ compiling for 7 [02:26] 13.1 been released...but current is still current...:D [02:26] who is has been here since 7? [02:26] current release MLanden [02:26] release!=current [02:26] Michael Landen, i thought you died and shit [02:27] wtf. zombie [02:27] s/zombie/jesus [02:27] meh...other angel.....>:) [02:27] hahahah [02:27] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [02:27] nice. [02:27] tell me your name isn't Michael [02:27] i'm having flashbacks of office space [02:28] irc...:D [02:28] dios_mio (1000@88.244.192.77) joined ##slackware. [02:28] anon policies and all that...;) [02:29] oh please. [02:29] this is not /b/ [02:29] :-D [02:29] i just recently found out about 4chan btw [02:30] i went by mandingo in here a long time ago [02:32] mikejc: migrating back to slackware from another linux? [02:33] nope [02:33] i just bought my first computer since 2000 [02:33] i'll check it out once i know the hardware works [02:33] just got 13.1 intalled on a macbook and when its booting up the screen just goes black and hangs.. i hate macs and dont know if theres anything special i need to do..? it does this halfway through boot and i cant tell what the last thing printed on screen was [02:34] 4chan is the laughing stock of the internet. Please don't bring those mannerisms in this channel. [02:34] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:34] i_is_cat: intel gpu? [02:35] batmayne: there were zero mannerisms mentioned. [02:35] im not sure.. but xchat is severely messed up and half the words being typed are missing brb one sec [02:35] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:35] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [02:36] i hope this is better.. [02:36] its an intel cpu mac.. [02:36] i_is_cat, try installing xchat 2.8.8 [02:36] gpu, not cpu [02:36] what video card do you have [02:36] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [02:36] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:37] ya i thought thats what you said, but couldnt see it lol and i just checked the box and it is intel gma [02:37] _claytones_ (somebody@189-29-80-18-bp.cpe.vivax.com.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [02:38] did you run X -configure and then run the command that tells you to run. i don't have a macbook, but it may at least bring up something to make sure the video module is loaded properly [02:38] newer x11 does usually automagically setup X correctly [02:39] mikejc: obviously you know straterra connected from where you are. [02:39] it wont boot past the black screen to try that.. but i could chroot the drive and see.. [02:39] i know him from someone else [02:39] I see [02:39] he offered me somewhere to irc from [02:39] since my local inet drops a lot [02:39] it takes a while and then i get the slackware lilo screen, hit enter, seems to start booting ok, then after spewing some info the screen goes blank and it just sits there [02:39] that was cool of him. [02:40] i agree [02:40] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [02:41] Traveler0 (~traveler@host148-217-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Java user signed off [02:41] i_is_cat: don't know about the new intel macs, but that sounds like a frame buffer issue, unless X tries to start automatically in the new slack [02:41] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:41] trying to think if there was a patch for the kernel with the intel gma [02:42] too bad its not still openfirmware, i could help [02:42] nah it should just get to a cli login prompt.. the install went flawlessly the boot seems super slow until i hit enter at lilo then it just flies through [02:42] is this using the bootcamp stuff? or elilo [02:43] i know from reading the macs are using efi [02:43] but it wont drop me into the login prompt [02:43] you setup the networking from the installer? does it respond? or is the system hung? [02:43] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [02:44] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:44] from previous experience, if the system is not hung, then the frame buffer was not setup properly for your system [02:44] i just blew the drive away and repartitioned it for slack.. i tried using parted to resize the gpt table which worked but slackware still wouldnt recognize the partitions within the gpt and since i'd already resized the osx partition, there was no space left on it to install bootcamp to try that.. so i just deleted it all and set it up the way it should be [02:44] i don't know if that works properly [02:45] i thought you had to use a newer version of lilo for efi based systems with gpt [02:45] habaneros (~habaneros@23.252.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:45] i_is_cat: might need to compile the kernel and enable kernel modesetting [02:45] it gets to the slackware lilo screen enabling me to boot slackware.. its just during the boot that it goes black.. [02:45] but since you at least boot, and you see messages, and then you go blank, that means a framebuffer issue to me [02:45] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:46] ok, you do or do not see the kernel loading? [02:46] well i tried an X -configure with the slackware disc chrooted to the root drive and got a loadmodule error module xgi does not have a xgimoduledata data object.. [02:46] MLanden: he can't set it to scan for a modesetting from lilo? [02:47] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:47] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] mikejc: still using 13.0 with custom kernel so I don't know....I use the line i915.modeset=1 in append to enable intelfb [02:49] quintux (~quintux@adsl-9-4-82.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:49] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:50] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-217.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:50] troy (~troy@94.237.119.202) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:50] jspider1010 (~spider101@189.sub-97-186-87.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:50] this computer came with windows 7, which i installed vmware to. i'm going to install linux from there, perhaps bsd as well, to a physical disk. i like being online while i set things up [02:51] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:51] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [02:52] john_dee (~id@95-29-187-17.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:52] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) joined ##slackware. [02:53] i_is_cat: which of the gma chips is it? 950 or the gma x3000(960/965),perhaps? [02:54] lspci says 945gm [02:55] poona (~poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:56] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:57] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [02:58] hi. I have a question. slackware 13.1 for 64 bits provides a slackbuild inside the dvd that builds a 64 bit flash plugin. Afaik 64bit flash plugin is not out, except for a alpha release from adobe(which they cancelled because of some security vulnerability). Is the 64 bit flash .so slackbuild is supplying the same alpha from adobe? [02:58] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [03:00] i think it might be an acpi problem...??? i checked /var/log/messages and the last few lines are saying things like acpi group processor action cpu0 is not defined [03:00] yes [03:00] ASCII a stupid question, get a stupid ANSI [03:00] in google does, does google reserve the right to read all your shizznitz? [03:00] then it says its switching to runlevel 0 and then a signal 15; terminating [03:00] er [03:00] in google docs [03:03] quintux (~quintux@adsl-9-4-82.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] Nick change: slackie -> Brasil [03:05] jspider1010 (~spider101@189.sub-97-186-87.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [03:05] Nick change: Brasil -> slackie [03:06] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:08] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:09] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [03:09] KB1JWQ (~KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) left irc: Ping timeout: 619 seconds [03:11] gundam (~gundam@89.202.223.8) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:12] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:12] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [03:12] yep.. booting Linux acpi=off stops it from going to a black screen.. [03:12] and im at the login prompt.. [03:13] but i think running it without acpi is not a good idea... [03:13] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-134-024.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [03:13] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:14] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [03:14] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:15] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [03:17] eXgame (~eXgame@88.118.26.21) joined ##slackware. [03:18] hmm i seem to be unable to login.. each key i press is showing up twice so instead of root its forcing me to login as rroooott [03:19] i hate apple [03:19] heh, i had issues like that before, on something else. i'm too out of practice to really offer any help [03:20] keyboard works fine when booted from the cd.. so wtf [03:20] New futurama is good. [03:20] i'm just amazed at how much acpi affects now [03:20] ie: it messes with my wifi switch [03:20] sounds like something is wrong, acpi off should not be neede... [03:20] which is why i'm still on windows :-/ [03:21] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:21] no acpi off shouldnt be needed.. [03:21] i_is_cat: maybe the acpi on is affecting the lid switch [03:21] turns the display off [03:21] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [03:22] Linux kernel has poor keyboard support. [03:22] well as i mentioned earlier, /var/log/messages seems to have a bunch of weird messages such as: acpi group processor action cpu0 is not defined [03:22] In my experience, FreeBSD kernel is better at keyboard or PS/2 drivers [03:22] a bunch of those pop up right before it switches to runlevel 0 [03:22] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] what are your acpi event hooks doing? [03:22] ok, describe the problem from square 1 [03:23] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [03:23] crocket: depends on the bios and mb [03:23] i have issues because my wifi switch is a capacitive button. if acpi i on, it doesn't work [03:24] the problem is that slackware 13.1 installed with no issues at all on a wiped clean intel macbook but after install, it goes to a black screen halfway through boot and when i use the acpi=off switch, it boots to the cli login screen but every keypress is doubled so i cant login [03:24] if i turn it off, it just works [03:24] What does acpi do? [03:25] crocket, i get unknown keypresses [03:25] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:25] xen doesn't work with it either [03:25] i_is_cat ok so the install works but when it boots it hangs mid-boot? this isn't an X runlevel is it? [03:25] xen, the virtualization software [03:25] xev [03:25] sorry [03:25] i'm kind of drunk right now [03:26] yep hangs mid-boot and no its just the default install so it should just boot to the cli login prompt as it does when i use acpi=off [03:26] whats that.. runlevel 3 i think? [03:26] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:26] ya 3 [03:26] maybe i should try 4.. maybe it will let the keyboard type properly.. [03:26] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [03:26] doubtful.. but its worth a shot i guess [03:29] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:29] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. [03:29] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [03:31] nope.. lol runlevel 4 just gives me another black screen.. probably X not configured properly.. but thats hard to do when i cant login and configure it.. [03:31] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [03:32] i_is-cat, there used to be issues with device discovery and macbooks [03:33] like if it was on battery it would hang, if there wasn't a cd/dvd in the bay it would hang, etc. these should have all been addressed in recent kernels thoughj [03:33] well it was powered on.. and there was no cd in it because since installing slackware, it decides you no longer need to press c to boot off a cd, it will just do it automatically.. [03:34] err plugged in.. [03:34] scenario....does the mac HAVE to have an efi partition to function properly? [03:34] heh [03:34] someone is funky with your cd then... [03:34] something* heh [03:35] what's the last thing to appear on the screen before it buggers off? [03:35] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-217.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:36] bevil (~bevil@222.19.211.96) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:36] well i wouldnt be surprised if there was an issue with the cd drive but it installed with no errors.. and when i leave the acpi on, it starts flying through the boot text faster than any system i've ever used, so i cant see what the last thing was [03:36] i just plugged in an ethernet cable and booted it without acpi im hoping it will show on the network so i can ssh into it [03:36] i_is_cat: what about acpi=force instead? [03:37] i was thinking about that but havent tried it yet.. [03:37] acpi=force turns it on (the opposite of off) [03:37] well i ssh'd in ok.. [03:37] ya thats why i havent tried it.. lol [03:38] you might try acpi=noirq which doesn't turn off acpi altogether just doesn't use it to route irq's [03:38] that might be worth a shot.. [03:38] right,mancha...sorry* [03:38] does loadkeys only work for the current terminal? or does it apply to the whole system? [03:38] how can I see the messages from xorg being post currently in the tty? [03:39] wondering if i loadkeys through ssh, if it will affect the physically connected keyboard of the mac.. [03:40] ok gonna try the acpi-noirq thing and see what happens.. [03:40] MLanden did you ever get an answer to your opera-mini queries? You got me curious :) [03:41] mancha: dunno....I was just asking about it hypothetically [03:41] jonatan (~jonatan@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:42] Mlanden, have you used chromium at all? [03:43] :O acpi=noirq worked and brought up runlevel 4 [03:43] mancha: yeah [03:43] i was thinking of forking it, to address privacy concerns, sharing the uuid codes, and stuff. [03:44] and was looking for a core group of coders to work on it with me :) [03:45] crocket (~cupcake@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:45] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:48] that was a convo killer...looking for volunteers sometimes has that effect :) [03:49] ok logging in however just seems to hang on a blue-ish screen ctrl+alt+f# keys arent doing anything.. :S [03:49] this is at console or gui login? [03:49] gui [03:50] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:50] yeah,it does...on my p4...was a mess with chromium...hopefully,mancha some folks with more horsepower can assist [03:51] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:51] p4's a solid processor. runs a litle hot but it was a very strong workhorse.. [03:52] i_is_cat i'd focus on bootin in onsole, reviewing logs to see what's going on and then starting X with ssh started so you can ssh in and review logs if it hangs [03:52] booting a problem maching straight into X is probably not the best idea... [03:52] *machine [03:52] ya im trying to change it to runlevel 3 right now.. not my system so im having a hard time remembering root pass lol [03:54] ok g'luck, i have to go have some scrambled eggs for breakfast now! cheers. [03:54] cheers,mancha ... will help as best as can [03:55] thanks mancha [03:59] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:59] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [04:00] ok thats weird.. [04:00] in runlevel 3, booting with acpi=noirq gives me the blank black screen again [04:01] apparently its booted up tho, because i just ssh'd into it.. [04:01] i hate Flash Technology! [04:02] i hate apple computers [04:02] i hate them too [04:02] i wonder if any mac loving loser would wanna trade a regular laptop for this macbook piece of crap [04:04] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:08] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) joined ##slackware. [04:08] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [04:11] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Later,folks!! [04:14] darn usb isnt working either.. wow i've never been so irritated before.. [04:16] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:51] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:53] eXgame (~eXgame@88.118.26.21) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:56] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.119.184) joined ##slackware. [05:00] my processor is getting high temperatures in slackware 13.1 64, I have a intel core 2 quad q6600, is cpu-freq going to help me ? [05:01] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [05:03] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [05:03] wolven (~wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [05:05] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [05:08] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.128.41) joined ##slackware. [05:13] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:14] well, looks like I need to git-track -current right now for some other needs [05:14] mcury: hat do you call "high" temps? [05:15] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-243.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [05:17] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [05:18] 60 degrees centigrade [05:21] is acpi-cpufreq loaded (check with 'lsmod') [05:21] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [05:22] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [05:22] no, there is no cpufreq in lsmod output, however there is a thermal_sys 14118 2 processor,thermal [05:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [05:23] try: 'modprobe acpi-cpufreq' (I don't remember well unfortunately) [05:24] shadowx (~none@singularity.darknetx.eu) joined ##slackware. [05:24] it worked [05:24] acpi_cpufreq 6433 0 [05:24] freq_table 2475 1 acpi_cpufreq [05:25] I can see now in my cpu-freq output, my cpu is there, what about the governor, I don't know which one is running, it's on defaut [05:25] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:25] "current policy: frequency should be within 1.60 GHz and 2.40 GHz. [05:25] The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use [05:25] within this range. [05:25] Channel flood from mcury -- kicking [05:25] current CPU frequency is 2.40 GHz. [05:25] mcury kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [05:25] mcury (~mcury@189.24.149.112) joined ##slackware. [05:26] sorry [05:26] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [05:28] afaik, userspace is a program deciding (but I don't know which one) [05:28] ondemand or conservative will reduce the cpu frequency [05:28] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:29] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.119.184) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:32] there is a documentation about it at http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cpu-freq/governors.txt [05:35] ooh ooh I want one [05:36] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [05:38] if i want to use rsync for backup and have pkg A-1.0.txz on one computer and pkg A-1.2.txz on another and one target backup directory. How could I have rsync not overwrite if there is a newer file and delete if there is an older file? or.. would something like unison work better? [05:38] target backup directory being on a remote server [05:41] you need some way to tell your backup mechanism that 1.0 is older than 1.2 [05:41] this is not built-in [05:42] traditional backup systems will simply store both [05:42] precisely [05:43] asarch (~asarch@189.188.152.60) joined ##slackware. [05:43] unison looks promising though i'd rather use regular expression if I can. [05:43] I would probably run a cron job on the backup target and list and sort all files, then remove the smaller versions [05:43] that shouldn't be too hard to write [05:43] stinky: luckybackup is frontend to rsync [05:43] mcury (~mcury@189.24.149.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:44] crocket (crocket@121.168.91.143) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.2"). [05:44] stinky: its in slackbuilds.org [05:44] slysir: thanks, i am needing cli for this though [05:44] i have that program [05:44] yes but it gives you the cli so you can copy it [05:45] anyone that have manged to compiler a new evince on slackware and gotten pass "glib-compile-schemas not found" ? [05:46] adaptr: thanks. I think that would be a good solution and shouldn't be too difficult to whip up. [05:47] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:48] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. 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It works when there is only a kernel= needed to boot the OS or if the distro impliments the boot option specifically into their iso. [06:02] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:03] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.128.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:04] as long as the only thing needing to be mounted is the kernel and initrd it will work, though if things need to be mounted from within the OS itself it will not unless specifically added the ability from that distro. Difficult to describe, i hope that makes sense. [06:06] The distro has no way to know that it was mounted as loop and will be looking for physical files on the boot medium and not know that it's all being ran from iso. [06:07] windowsxp won't work for this, though you can get it to boot, you would never be able to complete the install [06:09] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[08:56] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [08:59] ok, I guess this isn't going to work out *very* well: 27650 adrien 20 0 365m 319m 1384 R 94 8.2 0:47.07 git-pack-object [09:00] so access to the git repo will probably be quite limited because compression 4GB of already-compressed data and transferring them... (still looking for how to disable compression) [09:01] why are you trying to track binary packages? [09:02] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:05] jhw (~jhw@p57982C1F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:07] blacklinux (~undergrou@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [09:07] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:08] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Larrxi (~larrxi@c-8f36e255.04-100-6b6c7810.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [09:09] to get a history of them [09:11] Larrxi (~larrxi@c-8f36e255.04-100-6b6c7810.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Client Quit [09:12] the changelog does this :) [09:13] I don't think it's worth the huge space and bandwidth to see simple messages like "binary file added, binary file removed' [09:13] say you're testing current: it works, you update a few times, it breaks but you don't know when it broke exactly, that'll lets you pinpoint the problem more easily [09:14] why huge space and bandwidth? I sync'ed at 11MB, bandwidth isn't a problem and space isn't that big in the end [09:15] I guess [09:15] Action: turk182 would also like to see something like that but not so huge-- maybe a diff on /etc/ and /var/log/packages at least [09:15] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.146.135) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:15] the only interesting thing to me is seeing how slackbuilds change [09:15] tracking packages in git is quite silly :> [09:16] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.130.28) joined ##slackware. [09:16] why? no currently existing VCS is going to save any space with .txz/tar+xz files anyway [09:17] anyway, if they saved anything, cpu cost to get data from one specific commit would be pretty high [09:18] it's not unreasonned, I didn't think "hey, git is trendy, I'm going to use it to track binary files, woot \o/" [09:19] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:23] it's been years since I configured a plain slackware system (I usually replace a lot of the scripts with my own) ... but I need to make a change on a plain one now ... I need to configure a static IPv6 address ... I tried editing the files where the IPv4 address that was installed is, replacing with the IPv6, but that didn't work (came up w/o addresses) [09:25] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) joined ##slackware. [09:25] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/bagira' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:25] bagira kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Punches, you are a "poisonous person" and no longer welcome here. Google it. [09:25] jonatan (~jonatan@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:27] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:27] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.192) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Skaperen: you need to change the existing ipv6 address? [09:29] alisonken1home: there is no existing IPv6 address except the link-local one (the one beginning fe80) ... link-local stays (it's special) ... I need to configure a static address [09:30] ultimately that would end up with one of the scripts doing "ifconfig eth0 add fc00::10/16" or something like that (I made that one up) [09:31] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-39-165.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:31] I could just do it by adding a script or adding it to rc.local [09:31] m3tti (~user@p57B7D5D0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] well, rc.local wouldn't work because the inet services wouldn't see it in time [09:31] neonflux_ (~neonflux@64.134.233.88) joined ##slackware. [09:31] http://www.linuxpackages.net/gen_pdf.php?file=ipv6.html <-- sometimes linuxpackages.net has usefull stuff :) [09:31] but I'd trying to avoid adding a script, and doing it the "expected" way (whatever that is) [09:32] Action: Skaperen looks [09:32] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:32] Action: Skaperen waits for it to load [09:33] looks like you may have to either modify the rc.inet1 script or add a non-conflicting variable to rc.inet1.conf [09:33] or both [09:34] ask straterra, if memory serves he made ipv6 compliant rc scripts [09:35] alternatively, man ip [09:36] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Entulho (~foo@189-31-81-89.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:36] kkeepp (~irchon@189.73.163.195) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:36] looks like the linuxpackages.net DB is hosed ... main page loads OK, though slow ... pages via CGI just hang forever [09:36] OK, so no way to do it w/o script mods? [09:37] guess I'll have to modify or add a script [09:37] I bet I'd have to do that to configure multiple IP addresses, too [09:38] your command would have to be: ifconfig ipv6 add eth0 fc00::10/16 [09:39] it works w/o the ipv6 part [09:39] you'd then need a "route -A inet6 add..." of some kind [09:40] Skaperen: it's actually dishing up a pdf [09:40] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:40] generated as needed pdf I believe :) [09:41] alisonken1home: Oh ... the Adobe plugin on FF is broken and hangs on PDFs [09:41] Action: Skaperen goes to kill off the 3 firefoxes he started to try to load it [09:42] you're using the adobe plugin? you're using acrobat reader? [09:42] Skaperen: if you're using kde - redirect application-x/pdf to use /usr/bin/okular [09:43] when I installed the new Adobe reader, it also added the plugin to FF and I can't figure out how to uninstall it [09:43] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [09:43] Action: Skaperen is not using kde [09:44] look at /usr/lib/mozilla*/plugins, /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins, /usr/lib/frefox*/plugins, and /usr/lib64/firefox*/plugins [09:44] newyork (~newyork@p5DC92E45.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:44] I normally just get the URL for the PDF and wget it and run adobe direct [09:44] as well as ~/.mozilla/plugins (I believe) [09:44] one of these days I'll just remember to not use Adobe crap [09:45] blacklinux (~undergrou@121.54.29.50) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:45] hey guys, i try to build libgnomeprint under my slackware 13.1 but i get these: http://nopaste.info/99608449ca.html [09:46] Skaperen: http://linux.ardynet.com/slack-packs/ <-- you can check this guys packages and see how he does the ipv6 init stuff [09:46] do you have vim installed? [09:47] newyork: that is a nasty error lol [09:47] newyork: you might want to ask in #gnome as well [09:48] hm [09:49] my best guess is that there are a plethora of dependencies you dont have [09:51] newyork: are you using a gnome metapackage? [09:51] alisonken1home: well, I know how to do it ... by adding/changing a script ... I just wanted to know how to do it w/o that, if possible [09:52] Skaperen what is your question? [09:52] newyork: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/libgnomeprint/ [09:52] mancha: how to configure a static IPv6 address w/o making any script/package changes [09:52] I have no idea what you're asking at all... how to assigne a static ipv6 address? you've been told how. Finished. Wehter you "script" the command or not is up to you [09:52] Skaperen: i think you can just delete the plugin in those directories lol; back it up just in case, though. [09:52] turk182: i just installed a few gnome-libs for a software called GnuCash, my window manager is fluxbox [09:52] mancha: I substituted the IPv6 address for the IPv4 address, but that didn't work [09:53] huh? [09:53] transalte that to smart for me [09:53] sahko: libgnomecups is installed [09:53] Skaperen plus you have this annjoying habit of saying "i know that" each time people explain how to do it. [09:53] turk182: unfortunately, there are not plugins in the plugin directory ... no big deal as this is an old slackware on my desktop and I'm going to be replacing it all in a couple weeks [09:53] Skaperen: since ifconfig requires an "ipv6" option to work on v6, substitution won't work [09:54] Skaperen: as root do `locate -u && locate firefox | grep pdf` [09:54] newyork: are you using the script from slackbuilds.org? same version and everything? [09:54] DallaRosa (1000@EM114-51-17-49.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [09:54] mancha: those people have an annoying habit of not answering the question I asked, too ... there, if you want to know the truth ... I've learned to live with such answer by saying I know that [09:54] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] yes sahko [09:55] newyork: then you dont have a full installation or something. you're on your own [09:55] http://www.archive.org/details/Eric_Idle_The_FCC_Song [09:55] haha great track [09:55] XD [09:55] turk182: I found the plugin directory and there is nothing in there named with pdf [09:55] turk182: I'm not worried about that issue [09:56] InTel_BG (~intel@95.43.7.103) joined ##slackware. [09:57] At boot slackware loads /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwert/us/maps.gz, but it takes lon time, so how can I stop it at boot? [09:57] At first it wasn't loaded, but after installed gsb.....maybe if I stop it there will not be problems [09:57] mancha: how would YOU change a static IPv4 address in slackware? ... would you edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and change it in the file the existing scripts get the address from ? [09:57] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:58] nvision (~nvision@g231185064.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:58] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [09:58] mancha: MAYBE it was possible to do IPv6 there ... I tried ... but I did it simple by just changing the IP address ... MAYBE more was required ... that's why I asked [09:58] InTel_BG: ask in #gsb maybe? [09:58] rc.inet1.conf is how you assign ipv4 addresses in slackware :) [09:58] mancha: I did say I knew how to do it via the ifconfig command [09:59] ananke: so, how for ipv6 ? [09:59] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [09:59] ananke: is it a different file name or something? [09:59] sahko: ok, but I just think that this is Slackware question, not gnome :) [09:59] InTel_BG: i dont know. im just replying based on what you said [10:00] Skaperen: i'd assume it's in the same file, but i don't use ipv6, so i can't help you [10:00] you have to use dhcp instead of dhcpcd [10:00] Razec (~razec@187.34.22.35) joined ##slackware. [10:00] dhcpcd doesnt support ipv6 yet [10:01] ananke: I assumed the same ... also assumed the same variable name, and no added variables ... maybe it would have worked, so I tried ... didn't [10:01] Action: Skaperen is not using DHCP ... is doing it static [10:01] you mean dhclient [10:02] dhclient is part of dhcp [10:02] and apparently DHCP uses a different program ... at least as I saw it being done on another distro [10:02] but when you use somethign it is dhclient [10:02] dhcp is a protocol [10:02] and a package.. [10:02] it is like saying "use tcpip" [10:02] yes but not unambiguous [10:02] the correct thing to say is "use dhclient" [10:02] taht is, different program for IPv6 ... dhcpd6 or something like that (don't remember the exact name) [10:03] dhclient sucks so i wouldnt use it at all tbh [10:03] thats irrelevant [10:03] saying "use dhcp" makes no sense [10:03] anyway, I'm doing a static IPv6 configuration, so DHCP isn't even involved [10:03] when you use dhcpcd you are using dhcp [10:04] whether you use a dynamic host configuration protocol (dhcp) client or not depends on your particular config. dhcpcd does not yet support ipv6 w/o heavy patching. dhclient does. [10:05] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:05] hello, I have a Atheros AR8x wireless and since I upgraded my asus eeepc to slack 13.1 (from 13) my wireless board shows up on lspci but the wireless device (wlan0) doesn't get created [10:06] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:06] I've seen a lot of about the ath9k driver on forums and upgraded my kernel from 33.4 to 34 but the problem persists [10:07] does it work on an older kernel, if you had a chance to try it that way? [10:07] it worked on the original kernel from 13.0 [10:08] I'd suspect a module issue, but I don't know which one(s) would be involved [10:08] and I upgraded to 32.x and had no problems [10:09] after I got 13.1 the problems started [10:09] wharncliffe (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] I did "ifconfig eth0 add fdda::20/16" on machine A and "ifconfig eth0 add fdda::24/16" on machine B ... then when I do "ping6 fdda::20" on machine B it gets responses ... so doing it all manually (without any route commands) works [10:10] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [10:11] DallaRosa: what could be happening is the needed module is not being loaded because you effectively reset back to the default set of manuals [10:11] allend (~allend@CPE-121-220-30-102.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:12] Skaperen, indeed you're right. the module is not being loaded automatically as it happened before [10:12] Action: Skaperen has not run into that issue, yet, because of not putting slackware on a computer with wireless, yet (will happen, eventually, but has not happened, yet) [10:12] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [10:13] DallaRosa: I did pass over some wiki page saying how to do that as I was looking for IPv6 stuff a while ago, so something is out there ... maybe slackwiki.org has something [10:13] Action: Skaperen would like to be more helpful, but would just be guessing on this right now [10:14] Skaperen: you might be interested in this: http://linux.ardynet.com/slack-packs/ [10:14] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Skaperen, thank you anyways. I'm gonna do a bit more of researching :) [10:15] chopp: looking [10:20] compmstr (~compmstr@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] fatal (~o@bb-66-63-126-144.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] on my ipof d agj hard to ytype but im on telbet telnet lol itd its faralnix [10:22] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD48B42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Fail [10:22] MapMan (mapman@2001:470:1f0a:120e::fe) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:25] sahko, you might be thinking that redhat dhcp ipv6 hack? they dropped that after isc's dhcp implementation 4+ [10:26] *thinking of [10:26] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:27] DallaRosa: can you load the module manually and see if it adds the interface ... directory I found is /lib/modules/2.6.33.4/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k [10:27] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Action: Skaperen has used a very hacked Slackware for so long he forgot how to do plain Slackware ways [10:28] Action: Skaperen has found Slackware to be the best starting point for hacking system stuff, including init/rc stuff [10:29] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. 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[10:50] Skaperen, I'm not that new to linux, but I've I haven't had hardware problems in a while [10:53] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:57] DallaRosa: then it does sound like something broke in the latest kernel version, or at least the latest version of that module ... so ... you being not new to linux ... would know that means to explore kernel versions backwards to the equivalent of the last version that did work [10:58] DallaRosa: if there's some alternatie Slackware thing to do to make it work, sorry, but I don't know that [10:58] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:58] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) joined ##slackware. [11:00] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:01] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.148) joined ##slackware. [11:02] nachox (~Ignacio@201.216.213.17) joined ##slackware. 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[11:58] MS3FGX-mobile (~AndChat@156.sub-75-224-110.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:58] rirombo (~rirombo@h240.53.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] troy (~troy@as119-213.tontut.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-82.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:03] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [12:05] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:06] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:06] Skaperen, thanks. I just wanted to know if there was anything related to my board and the new slack apart from the kernel problem. As it seems to be only the kernel problem I'll just go back to the version that used to work. [12:06] but I really appreciate your time to answer [12:07] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [12:07] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Client Quit [12:10] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:11] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:12] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [12:14] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:14] rirombo (~rirombo@h240.53.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:14] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) joined ##slackware. [12:15] switch10_ (~root@24.206.123.83) joined ##slackware. [12:17] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.148) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:19] DallaRosa: I'd try the older module with the current kernel first, then try the older kernel with all older modules, ... all with the newer slackware [12:19] ... before going all the way back to the older slackware [12:19] I'm right now going back to the old kernel [12:19] 32.8 [12:20] that was the last thing working for me [12:20] but I'm not planning on going back to slack 13.0 [12:21] 13.1 gives me with no trouble the bluetooth support I lost some hair to get working [12:21] ok [12:21] are you asking in #madwifi? Eventually someone shows up there who might know something. [12:21] there's an idea [12:21] oh [12:21] thanks [12:21] I'm gonna try there too [12:21] :) [12:21] also, google the LKML and see if anyone reported bugs [12:22] Did you have a pastebin prepared which demonstrates the whole story? 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[12:25] people that get no results on searches [12:25] well, I'm not even getting a device created [12:26] the module isn't automatically loaded anymore as it used to be before even though the wireless board shows up on lspci [12:26] and even if I load the module by hand the device is not created [12:30] you might also want to try #linux-wireless [12:31] http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k [12:34] lori (~lori@c-66-56-10-90.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] Nick change: lori -> Kosty [12:36] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. [12:36] hannah_murray (srijan4@plox.tor.hu) left irc: Client Quit [12:36] #linux-wireless might want to steer you toward the compat-wireless, which in your case might be the right approach ... hard to say, with no information. [12:37] Action: Skaperen thinks a lot of wireless hardware chip makers still need to be spanked [12:37] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:39] I think the card vendors (not the chip makers necessarily) are in cahoots with Microsoft. [12:40] Packaging and available documentation does not identify the chip used, and sometimes the same model number ships with different chips! [12:40] Kosty (~lori@c-66-56-10-90.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:41] Funny thing is, that's also a burden on the maintainers of the Microsoft drivers, because their .inf has to check for different drivers. But, having inside information, it's possible to work around it. [12:42] Microsoft doesn't care about convenience for their programmers, if it means they can make things more difficult for the Linux gang. [12:42] grazymax (~grazymax@host139-156-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:43] qwebirc55442 (4e0ff039@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.15.240.57) joined ##slackware. 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[12:51] i saw some guy pull it off amazing style on his new new desktop oc'd to 4.2ghz [12:51] 10.6.4 i want to find what he used [12:51] i got mine on 10.5.x and no wifi on lappy [12:51] nyRednek: you're not talking about common boards, right? [12:51] mako-sama: not yet [12:52] nyRednek: because, afaik, OSX still needs EFI [12:52] mako-sama, they have efi dongles i heard [12:52] and windows doesn't even know what is EFI [12:52] mako-sama: give it a release or two [12:52] christian_d (~christian@kobz-590d6c8f.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.138.66) joined ##slackware. [12:52] http://www.osnews.com/story/20299/Review_EFI-X_Dongle_Perfectly_Transforms_PC_to_Mac_ [12:52] that's interesting jeev [12:53] expensive though [12:54] woa.. $170 O_O! 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[13:45] quintux (~quintux@adsl-9-4-82.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:48] hey guys, i just created a raid 1 array, but the kernel doesn't auto-detect it when it boots up - i use the generic 13.1 kernel which already has md and md_autodetect built in, used raid autodetect as the partition types, added an entry in mdadm.conf, and added "auto=yes" ...anybody have other ideas besides not using raid? [13:48] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [13:48] i have to manually do mdadm --auto-detect every time i boot, which is not bad but i just want it to work as i think its supposed to . . . [13:50] fhobia: what did you use as individual array members? [13:50] grep md /proc/mdstat [13:50] i used /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc1 [13:51] /proc/mdstat shows "md0: active raid1 sdc1[0] sdb1[1]" [13:51] it looks all well [13:51] fhobia: what partition type are those? [13:51] they are both "fd Linux raid autodetect" [13:51] hmm, that should be sufficient [13:53] when i do "mdadm -D /dev/md0", it says spuerblock is persistent, version is 0.90, state is clean, and both /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdb1 are active tooo [13:54] partitions are marked as bootable... [13:54] they are both the same 1 TB drive [13:54] ext3 [13:54] the 'fd' type should have been sufficient. the rest doesn't matter [13:54] ok, cool [13:57] batmayne (krampus@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-bumuwuffkfsyqhae) joined ##slackware. [14:03] after i do "mdadm --auto-detect" and everything works, i do see "kernel: md0: unknown partition table" [14:03] though i can mount and use it just fine [14:05] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [14:09] red herring [14:12] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:13] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.148) joined ##slackware. [14:13] jnylin (~jnylin@c-7471e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[14:42] fhobia [14:42] you created the kernel with mdadm ? [14:42] raid ? [14:42] neonflux (~neonflux@209.19.58.106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:42] did you create a uh initrd? [14:44] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.* expired. [14:44] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:45] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [14:48] eXgame (~eXgame@88.118.26.21) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:48] jeev: i'm using the generic and huge kernels that come with slack and they both have md built in [14:49] jeev: i have an initrd, but i think i'm missing something there now that huge works but generic doesn't [14:49] what that is...i don't know yet though [14:51] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-88-170.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:52] rahulrp (~rahul@p57B03EEB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] mkinitrd(8): -R This option adds RAID support to the initrd, if a static mdadm binary is available on the system. [14:53] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-96-159.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:53] yea [14:53] hi all, [14:53] i was too busy picking my nose so rob got it [14:53] ( o.o ) whoah, ok, i'll try that out [14:55] if this works, then i got pwned by a forum message that said no initrd changes needed :P [14:56] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.1/README_RAID.TXT <-- RTFM, it describes the initrd creation [14:57] pwned [14:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:57] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:58] i thought i didn't need to do it, cause i'm not booting off of it - that was my downfall [14:59] pressing alt+f2 shows up xfrunner instead of krunner.... any solution? [15:00] Anyone tried building latest transmission with current SlackBuild? [15:00] john_dee, yes [15:00] Entulho (~foo@189-31-81-89.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: . [15:00] thrice`: Just changing version and you're all set? [15:00] no, it requires libevent too [15:01] rahulrp, solution: go into your [unstated] window manager's hotkey configuration and change what is invoked for alt+f2. [15:01] thrice`: Uh. Last time I checked it was bundled with transmission, if you don't have it installed [15:01] now its not [15:01] john_dee, it's not now [15:01] Dang [15:01] wtf [15:01] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:01] it's really not any different [15:02] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) joined ##slackware. [15:03] rob0, I am using kde4.x, alt+f2 invokes krunner acc to the keybd shortcuts [15:03] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] So slackbuild for 1.92 works for 2.01? I mean, sometimes slackbuilds need more tweaking than changing version [15:05] I added a few configure flags [15:05] grab both tarballs and diff the configure scripts + Makefiles [15:06] lol [15:06] ? [15:07] I wonder why they don't ship libevent anymore. Was pretty convenient [15:07] because bundling software that you don't maintain is quite ugly [15:07] thrice`: nvm. I'll check. thnx. What flags did you add, btw? [15:07] Well, that makes sense, I guess [15:08] to configure, I added "--disable-libcanberra --disable-gconf2" [15:08] the first will disable the sound event after a download completes [15:08] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:09] I was thinking that transmission is 1 package to build vs 3 for rtorrent. But now I might just build rtorrent then [15:12] probably could have had all 5 done by now :) [15:14] grazymax (~grazymax@host100-1-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:15] fremenblue (~ryan@170.213.131.190) joined ##slackware. [15:15] sup u guys [15:15] amazon10x (captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:17] fremenblue (~ryan@170.213.131.190) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:17] hehe [15:17] jspider1010 (~spider101@189.sub-97-186-87.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [15:19] amazon10x (captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:23] sanguenet (~player@187.112.250.245) joined ##slackware. [15:24] oh fhobia [15:24] you're not booting off it ? [15:24] ii dont think you need the initrd then heh [15:24] thrice`, shut up before i come to your room and beat your ass [15:25] sorry jeev, my basement has a password to enter, which you will never crack [15:25] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:28] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:29] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] lord_darwin (~lord_darw@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Nick change: lord_darwin -> darwin [15:31] i heard you mumble it yesterday [15:32] mikejc (michael@projectstfu.com) left ##slackware. [15:33] rahulrp (rahul@p57B03EEB.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[15:43] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [15:44] "stop" wicd .. [15:45] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:45] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-183-9-190.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Bassist: is it in inetd.conf perhaps? [15:46] Bassist: delete /etc/xdg/autostart/wicd-tray.desktop [15:46] CtrlAltCa: Aaah [15:46] CtrlAltCa: Thank you :) [15:46] CtrlAltCa: So that's where those dratted files are.. I was looking under ~/.config [15:47] i know, it took me some time to seek them :) [15:47] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-183-9-190.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:48] how long did it take to find them? ;) [15:48] Alright, problem solved. Thanks guys [15:48] See you around [15:48] christian (~christian@kobz-590d6c8f.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [15:49] Bassist (~bass_@mnch-5d85781c.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: Adios [15:50] troy (~troy@as119-216.tontut.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:52] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:53] acky (~acky@189.58.213.178.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:54] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Action: fhobia is shocked at having so much luck installing steam on wine so far :P [15:57] Action: fhobia sacrifices another goat [15:57] :o [15:57] DallaRosa (1000@EM114-51-17-49.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:00] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-26-5.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:01] ablinmac (~jk@213-64-235-233-o871.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:01] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:02] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:02] Action: jeev sacrifies adrien [16:03] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:03] Action: adrien teaches typing to jeev [16:04] or english maybe [16:04] oh woops [16:04] sacrificies [16:04] wow [16:04] sacrifices [16:04] i'm picking my nose, sjhuit up [16:04] 'snot funny [16:04] is it considered snot if it's dried up [16:05] jeev: ask jeeves [16:05] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:05] no [16:05] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-39-165.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:06] http://uk.ask.com/ [16:07] cpet (~chris@189.148.50.149) joined ##slackware. [16:08] still picking your nose, jeev ? o.o [16:08] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] will slackware have updated xorg-server packages ? reading I see a lot of people mentioning there is a bug that causes it to freeze [16:09] input would be appreciated [16:09] what causes it to crash, cpet ? [16:10] bug in xorg-server package [16:10] cpet: bug in which version? [16:10] 13.1 [16:10] X will run fine for about 20 minutes before it freezes [16:10] bollox [16:10] running on console does not have this issue [16:10] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:10] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Hi, I am trying to make a copy of a dvd movie to give to my teacher. Is still hard to make copies of dvd nowadays? [16:11] http://my.opera.com/arcfide/blog/2010/07/04/motif-and-slackware-13-1 [16:11] cpet: I am pretty sure that xorg server doesn't have a 13.1 version (in fact X.org -version shows "X.Org X Server 1.7.7") [16:11] recompiling with that patch fixes the issue I have [16:12] I am not saying it does [16:12] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [16:12] I am saying the xorg-server package in 13.1 has a bug in it that causes it to freeze [16:14] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] still hard? ..when was it ever hard to copy a dvd? [16:15] cpet: I really doubt that is an "all around/happends to everyone bug". (not saying it's wrong, just saying that I have X up and running for the last .. hmm 5 days or so, *WITHOUT* any problem. [16:15] phrag, was back in the days. In fact dvd softwares were banned. I remember being banned from eBay when my dvd copying softwares were considered illegal. [16:15] could be a virtualbox issue also :P [16:16] cpet: right ... [16:16] i was in the days [16:16] cpet: Here's a small helpful hint next time you want to present a "bug report". Give as much and as complete information as you can .. this usually helps when people want to actually help, instead of playing 20 questions. [16:17] well [16:17] it freezes completely [16:17] and I am too Linux dumb to get core dump etc.. :P [16:18] riza: are you asking about technical aspects or legal? those are two different things [16:18] only thing that brings it back to life in Alt sysreq R... [16:18] True.. but it's hard technically too. I remember having to rip the dvd, convert it to something, then burn it. [16:19] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.148) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:19] Of course if it's just as easy as putting the dvd in, put an empty disc in, I'll do that right now.. I just don't want to open this clean box of empty discs only to find out I can't.. >< [16:19] m3tti (~user@p57B7C9B5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] cpet|2 (~chris@189.148.50.149) joined ##slackware. [16:21] CtrlAltCa: busy? [16:21] nope [16:21] CtrlAltCa: do you have patches for those 2 CVE's for kvirc 3.4.x and 4.x ? [16:22] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:22] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:22] riza: k3b will copy a dvd for you. [16:22] troy (~troy@94.237.119.216) joined ##slackware. [16:22] k3b will do wonders :) [16:22] cpet: branches in svn are patched; [16:23] CtrlAltCa: but freebsd ports does do svn co outs very well [16:23] doesnt* [16:23] ananke, cpet! Thanks! I will do that now then. 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[17:29] alienBOB: I made packages already for x86_64 - works like a charm [17:29] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [17:29] troy: you did not have to rebuild packages that are dependent on qt ? [17:29] i'm on 4.6 and like it. is the 4.7 branch stable or do they do the even=stable, odd=devel thing? [17:29] alienBOB: nope [17:29] Good [17:30] alienBOB: in fact, everything is faster than 4.6 so far - worth the update [17:30] and your package is located where? :) [17:30] thrice`: no where - I don't have file storage anyplace [17:30] what is faster and how did you benchmark? [17:30] I can't use 4.5 with the stock qt package :( [17:30] nachox (~Ignacio@201.216.213.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:30] illovae (~C-18@edu.porneia.net) left irc: Changing host [17:30] illovae (~C-18@unaffiliated/illovae) joined ##slackware. [17:31] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [17:31] troy: I don't think a Qt beta will go into Slackware. It will have to wait a bit. Because I am going to build the packages as they should appear in -current [17:31] mancha: non-scientific plasma responsiveness benchmark :P [17:31] heh, non-scientific sounds like a hoot :) [17:31] alienBOB: okay - well, I'll send you what I modified anyway in case it's useful [17:31] Sure, and you can cc volkerdi@ for that email [17:32] Always useful [17:32] alienBOB: sure - you're alien@? [17:32] Yep [17:32] one sec [17:32] I think when I tried to build 4.7, it failed at finding mesa headers or something [17:32] thrice`: yeah, I fixed that [17:33] thrice`: which is why I'm trying to send my changes to alienBOB and co [17:33] why don't you just pastebin your .SlackBuild [17:33] ah, ok. it failed once, and I gave up. building qt isn't so pleasurable for me :) I wanted to try the updated webkit stuff, though [17:34] compiling qt is a great way to stress test your RAM chips [17:34] better than memtest+ [17:35] hrmm, it's grown by 30 megs (over 4.6.3) [17:35] flam3! [17:36] thrice`: I wanted to play with the new Qt-declaritive stuff :) [17:36] at least the compressed version, who knows how much that 30mb gap means uncompressed. [17:36] mancha: I had to create a patch [17:36] mancha: the sources are huuuuge [17:37] oh i know, i've been compiling qt since it first came out...back since trolltech days [17:37] -rw-r--r-- 1 troy users 142345348 2010-07-04 23:20 qt-4.7.0-beta1-x86_64-1.txz [17:37] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:37] not a small package :P [17:37] eek, bad! [17:37] that's what she said! [17:37] needs to be 4.7.0_beta :> [17:37] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBB88.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:38] thrice`: that would make sense - no wonder upgradepkg complained :P [17:38] indeed :) [17:38] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] looks like you built all of the docs too, for that size [17:39] so make a tarball out of your build stuff (slackbuilds+desc+patches) and post somewhere... [17:39] my qt 4.6.x package is 138342860 [17:40] cpet (~chris@189.148.50.149) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [17:41] if I build from the qt tarball itself, I usually add -nomake {demos,examples,docs} to configure [17:42] sanguenet (player@187.112.250.245) left ##slackware. [17:42] mancha: working on it [17:42] i use qt's phonon, i noticed pat doesn't... [17:43] i think pat also doesn't use nokia's qt but kde's hack-branch [17:43] Indeed [17:43] Anf that is not going to change [17:43] mancha: kde's hack branch only exists for already-released Qt versions though [17:43] batmayne (krampus@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-bumuwuffkfsyqhae) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:44] I don't think they added any patches to 4.6.3, that I could find [17:44] time remaining: 1 day FFFUUUUUUUUU [17:44] alienBOB: alright - sent the script - apparently I need to change -beta1 to _beta1, but other than that, it works [17:44] alienBOB: I don't have a plain x86 system to test that platform on [17:44] nachox (~Ignacio@201.216.213.17) joined ##slackware. [17:45] alienBOB: the only really new thing is the patch that makes it build [17:45] OK [17:45] m3tti (~user@p57B7C9B5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:45] Action: troy goes back to hacking at Akademy :) [17:51] Have fun, troy [17:51] Action: alienBOB wonders what goes down at Akademy [17:52] hacking, beer and pole dancing [17:54] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.15.58.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:55] http://www.flickr.com/groups/akademy2010/ as well the dozens of posts on planet kde might give a hint [18:00] latemus (~harpo@c-67-186-210-172.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] is there a way to make wget login defore downloading [18:01] of course [18:01] man wget [18:01] alienBOB: where do you live? [18:01] you can provide arbitrary headers, including authorization: [18:01] NL [18:01] well, live.. curretnly, we endure.. and survive [18:01] It's not as hot as the past days [18:02] alienBOB: well, next time we have akademy in the local region, we'll force you to come down - two years ago we were in Belgium :) [18:02] my house refuses to cool off [18:02] dios_mio (1000@88.244.192.77) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:02] troy: I'd love that [18:02] is that a KDE thing ? [18:02] alienBOB: hell, come down anyway next year regardless of where it is - good excuse to travel :) [18:02] Perhaps when I have a new job, it comes with paid trips to conferences and stuff [18:02] adaptr: yeah - the main european conference [18:03] I'd only take one that pays for trips and stuff :) [18:03] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.91) joined ##slackware. [18:03] alienBOB: well, kde will fund people to come down when appropriate too [18:03] adaptr: thanks [18:03] alienBOB: and they aren't always directly associated with KDE [18:04] Hmmmm [18:04] alienBOB: for instance, we always try to invite a few gnome devels down to ensure that we've got interoperability things taken care of [18:04] there's a bunch of tracker people here this year, for example [18:04] and I found three slackware peeps [18:04] I guess I can do a trickster impersonation [18:04] Three Slackware users even! [18:05] I bet you invite the gnomoids so you can humiliate them and tie them up in yer dungeon! [18:05] adaptr: no, we're really quite friendly - can't say the same is true if KDE people go to GUADEC [18:05] there's even some xfce folks here [18:06] Action: troy doesn't remember who they are - there's like 400 people here today [18:07] Hello guys [18:08] I am having trouble trying to install nvidia drivers for my old tnt2 32MB video card [18:08] I doubt the nvidia blob will work on 13.1 [18:08] I made the appropriate changes to xorg.conf after installing the driver but still nothing X says it cannot find the driver nvidia. wonder what I am doing wrong [18:08] latemus (~harpo@c-67-186-210-172.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:10] do you all think if I upgraded my video card to a Geforce 7800 that it might work then? [18:11] K-Chiggums: you need to use older builds of the driver. [18:11] I got them from the nvidia website for the tnt2 card [18:13] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:16] the problem will be that the driver will be too old to build on 13.1 or 13.0 [18:16] K-Chiggums: but why do you want to install the nvidia driver, you have a problem with what's default? [18:17] there will be very little difference between VESA or nv or nvidia on such an old card [18:17] yup [18:17] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [18:22] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [18:28] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:28] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:29] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. 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(knowing y'all's was Thursday and ours is today) [18:49] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:50] MLanden: things are good, thanks:) how is your 4th shaping up? [18:51] hitest: goin' good...been a nice relaxing afternoon [18:52] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:52] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-149-70.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:53] airdem (~airdem@g228002207.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:58] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:58] any one creating a music distro...came 'cross this app that may be of some use http://loopdub.sourceforge.net/ [18:59] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [19:01] batmayne (krampus@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-yqhijstavpdjcpqu) joined ##slackware. [19:01] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:03] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:03] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.91) left irc: Quit: rafu [19:04] areay_N900 (~user@188.220.16.92) joined ##slackware. [19:04] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:05] woh3 (will@67.232.145.174) left ##slackware. [19:05] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [19:06] hi all... just installed 13.1 from cd on my laptop and i get a dead screen at boot just before X starts... how can i get to a command line (ctrl+alt+fX does nothing)? [19:07] if you just installed it then it wouldn't boot to X [19:08] it installed kde and asked which window manager i wanted to use [19:08] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-121.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] did you actually install slackware, or a derivative? your behavoir doesn't sound like slack's default [19:09] slackware, downloaded from slackware.org today :) [19:10] if it's not X, i have no idea what could be causing the screen to go black after i see the text-based boot screen [19:11] i have to admit i was surprised to see the slackware installer offer kde, but it did... all i need to do is get to a command prompt somehow... [19:12] so, you push enter at lilo to boot slackware, and that's all you see? or you get *some* scroll back ? [19:13] i get scrollback for about 30secs [19:13] and where does it stop ? [19:13] areay_N900: intel graphics card? [19:14] it's kinda fast, i'm just doing it now let me see... [19:14] gapan yes [19:14] read this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/intel-945-current-=-blank-screen-809629/ [19:14] KMS is kicking in [19:14] I'm betting that's your problem too [19:15] one of the last things that flashed by was intel corporation lol [19:15] I was just trying to remember the TLA involved.. definitely sounds like KMS [19:15] disabling KMS isn't so nice though, since the driver depends on it; eventually, that driver won't build against newer x-server [19:16] thrice`: kms should get fixed in the kernel at some point though [19:16] so no need to go back to an older version of the driver [19:17] hmm... i'm just skimming over the thread, i think thats my problem [19:18] eddie_grey (~eddie@201-14-166-64.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:18] iirc, there was mention on some news site or other about restamped video hardware alleging to be intel but failing in spectacular ways with said drivers [19:20] nomodeset seems to have worked :) [19:21] thanks for the link gapan [19:21] dios_mio (1000@88.244.192.77) joined ##slackware. [19:21] areay_N900: now you need to install version 2.9.1 of the driver too, in order for X to work [19:21] how do you start an xtrerm as a login shell? [19:24] i want it to source the /etc/profile on startup [19:25] gapan: awesome, much appreciated [19:27] dios_mio: an xterm cannot be a login shell. you're already logged into X [19:27] ok I meant the -ls paramter.. nm [19:28] dios_mio (1000@88.244.192.77) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:28] in ~/.Xdefaults: XTerm*loginShell: True [19:28] that probably will do it [19:28] still, you cannot actually "log in" with one - you would be su-ing [19:38] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:40] slackware.org != slackware.com [19:40] Somebody else owns that domain, it is not Pat's. [19:43] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [19:43] anyone here using firefox? [19:44] no, konqueror here [19:45] Teratogen: "most likely yes", perhaps try rephrasing your question to ask what you are really trying to get help with. [19:45] oh [19:45] Teratogen: I use fireponies [19:45] well [19:45] Google's animated Fourth of July logo is really fucking up my Firefox AND KDE [19:46] I wanted someone else to try it [19:46] see if they get the same results [19:46] And by "fucking up" you mean..... exactly what? [19:46] ah, its already the 5th here, sorry [19:46] works fine here [19:46] I am running Slackware 13, KDE 4.4.3, and Firefox 3.6.6 [19:47] oh [19:47] it renders as rectangles of black and white leaving said rectangles as artifacts [19:47] not that I have any clue whta "fucking up' means [19:47] do you sit at the google search page for awhile..? [19:47] ah [19:47] then the rest of KDE gets all scribbly to the point where I have to shut down X and restart [19:48] I don't know if it is Firefox or KDE [19:48] but I downloaded Opera and the animated logo seemed to work find in Opera [19:48] so I have a tendency to think it is Firefox [19:48] dios_mio (1000@88.244.192.77) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Teratogen: try http://www.google.com/firefox instead....love the pacman game they had,but not all the time [19:49] MLanden, I have that set as my homepage now, thanks [19:49] google.com/linux is better [19:49] guys... if I want my NTFS drive to be mounted automatically on startup with ntfs-3g, what do i do? [19:50] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.156) joined ##slackware. [19:50] add it to fstab? [19:50] dios_mio: add it to /etc/fstab with the right options. [19:50] sahko: thanks...good suggestion [19:50] ok BP [19:52] BP.. as defaults? or what? [19:54] dios_mio (1000@88.244.192.77) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:57] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:57] unf! [19:58] oh baby [20:00] giggety [20:01] dios_mio (1000@88.244.192.77) joined ##slackware. [20:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:02] guyz... what torrent client do we use with a WM? [20:02] transmission [20:03] isnt that for KDE? [20:03] no [20:03] dios_mio: I use a really old version of azureus.. from 2006 or so [20:04] raela, ok will check [20:04] lol [20:04] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:06] i added this to my fstab---> /dev/dsc1 /mnt/hd ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 <-- goot? [20:06] sdc1.... [20:06] tavl (~tavl@189.70.217.38) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:06] did you read the man page? they're quite great! [20:06] hah.... man page? pffff [20:07] thats for pussies.... real men go and ruin their system [20:07] you mean annoy others on irc? [20:07] :D [20:07] "defaults" might not work for ntfs-3g, I know they are not good for ntfs. [20:07] well thrice.. let me put it this way [20:08] if there were no guys like me, you wouldnt have any function coming here sitting all day and answering questions of newbies, and putting them down... see? [20:08] rob... what doo you suggest? [20:08] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:08] gapan (~gapan@79.103.213.197.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:08] defaults render files read only for root only and directories read and execute for root only. use gid, fmask, dmask options. [20:09] I suggest "man mount", find the ntfs-3g options section, see what you need. [20:09] dang [20:09] night folks [20:09] i think i will just manually mount it everytime... too much hassle to go be an expert on mount command [20:09] troy (troy@as119-216.tontut.fi) left ##slackware. [20:10] If that works for you, it works for me. I'm not an expert on ntfs-3g because I don't have any NTFS. [20:10] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [20:10] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 first hit on google [20:10] i have an external harddisk, that is 120 gb... its where i keep my mp3's.... [20:11] 70 gb of them [20:11] if you give me ssh access, I can click that link for you too [20:11] people who dont read man pages should read the ubuntu forums [20:11] hahaha [20:12] well thrice.. that is using defaults too.. only with an additional locale option... [20:12] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G [20:13] so does any of you know why some xterm fonts make the xterm too wide? [20:13] you're welcome dios_mio [20:14] thanks thrice [20:14] lol [20:14] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:15] heh youtube got hacked [20:15] sahko: badly, too. [20:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] GArik_ (~wesnoth@95-29-243-248.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:16] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [20:17] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:17] so if i want users to be able to modify the ntfs drive, should i say umask=0000 ? [20:18] umask=0 will do [20:18] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:18] cool thx [20:18] dios_mio, sorry, last one :) http://slackwiki.org/Windows_Partitions [20:19] if that one doesn't work, you can degrade rworkman to his face [20:19] (added benefit) [20:19] thanks [20:19] nice thrice! (and it rhymes to boot)... just learned something [20:21] never thought about dmask/fmask for ntfs drives... [20:21] well... when I mount my NTFS drive with a simple command like "mount.ntfs-3g [drive] [location]" with no paramteres, and it lets me modify the files as non-root.... well then.... doesnt that mean that this is what "defaults" is? [20:22] it sounds like it's your default [20:22] col then [20:22] cool [20:24] "defaults" actually has a meaning .. you might want to read mount(8) a bit better [20:28] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:29] eddie_grey (~eddie@201-14-166-64.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: BitchX: its magically delicious! [20:29] i havent been using linux for weeks.... but now the latest flashplayer is making youtube videos freeze in my win xp... because my video card is old [20:29] it does ok on linux... [20:33] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] so... in windows you will have some media on the web opening with the media player being embeded in the webpage..... so if you want to open such things on linux, what program do you need? [20:39] in KDE? [20:39] using fluxbox... [20:40] i think gnome-mplayer-plugin can do that for firefox [20:41] you dont need gnome itself for that? [20:42] there's an extenstion for FF for that [20:42] although I forget the name of it [20:42] no actually its named gecko-mediaplayer its in sbo [20:42] multimedia some such [20:43] vlc also has some plugin [20:43] ok thanks... will check [20:44] dios_mio, althought I think mplayerplugin is pretty good, but that should be installed on 13.1 by default perhaps? [20:44] /var/log/packages/mplayerplug-in-3.55-i486-1 [20:45] is it? [20:46] dont have it but will get it [20:47] oh its in extra/ [20:47] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) left irc: Quit: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer [20:47] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [20:48] i am downloading it from its homepage and will compile it.. but i guess slackware offers a binary? [20:48] AEnima15772 (~clbarnob@c-71-63-94-34.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:48] ya [20:49] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@c-71-63-94-34.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:49] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:50] ok so how do you install those tkz files? [20:50] txz [20:50] upgradepkg/installpkg [20:50] read the slackbook, chapter 18 [20:50] newyork (~newyork@p5DC92E45.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:51] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:51] cool [20:52] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:52] wow worked like a charm [20:52] damn it im out of tobacco [20:54] john_dee (~id@93-81-118-41.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [20:58] tomacco [21:00] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.31.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:02] fireworks are going to suck, if this rain doesn't go away here in Seattle [21:06] AEnima15772 (~clbarnob@c-71-63-94-34.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:06] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:07] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:08] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:10] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [21:10] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:15] edthix (~ed@175.137.36.18) joined ##slackware. [21:21] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [21:22] edthix (ed@175.137.36.18) left ##slackware. [21:23] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.31.166) joined ##slackware. [21:30] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-134-024.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:30] ok i've been messing with this intel driver for hours now, i can't seem to get it working. whilst i appreciate a computing challenge this is really beyond a joke. this laptop is almost as old as slackware! [21:31] install an older Slackware version to it [21:32] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] i've removed the intel driver (the one that doesn't work that ships with slackware), installed the older one (2.9.1), reconfigured X, and it's still doing the same thing... [21:32] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:33] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] sahko it's only like 3 years old, i was exaggerating [21:33] but seriously, like half of all graphics cards are intel, slack could at least ship with a working driver [21:33] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:33] life's too short for this shit [21:36] the new xorg stuff are occasionaly hit or miss [21:36] what card is it? [21:37] its the i915 [21:38] i'm pretty sure anyway [21:38] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) joined ##slackware. [21:38] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/bagira' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:38] bagira kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Punches, you are a "poisonous person" and no longer welcome here. Google it. [21:40] i'm sure most people would rather shit in their hands and clap than spend time configuring X... it's about as enjoyable as taking a cheese grater to the face [21:42] areay_N900: what vga setting in lilo are you using when you boot? [21:43] My netbook has "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller" and works without xorg.conf [21:43] same as rob0 . no configuration needed whatsoever [21:43] dunno, I have an old thinkpad which might be Intel graphics [21:44] MLanden just nomodeset, that's the only way it'll boot [21:44] you have to have vga = normal [21:45] i think [21:45] lemme try that... [21:45] nomodeset is for append, no? [21:45] no, I use framebuffer on my netbook [21:46] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: None [21:47] I use a specific vga = and no append for a laptop with intel.. no xorg.conf [21:47] yea, nomodeset is for append [21:48] append? vga=0 at lilo produces another dead screen [21:48] areay_N900: post your /etc/lilo.conf to a pastebin [21:49] "vga = 9", that is vesafb: mode is 800x600x32 and 100x37 text console. [21:50] try booting with "vga=ask" [21:50] Catoptromancy (~Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [21:50] but again nomodeset isnt supposed to be added to the vga line, but the append one [21:51] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:51] ok i'll try that, i'm just waiting for a reboot... this is lilo.conf stuff, yea? sahko i would pastebin but my mouse doesnt work and i need to use ethernet for network right now [21:51] screen(1) and lynx(1) work for copy/paste without a mouse [21:52] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488EA0B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] and gpm(8) can be configured during installation [21:53] rob0 and sahko i'll pretend i understood that ;) i'm using vga=normal right now, i changed it to ask... is there anything else of importance here (lilo.conf)? [21:54] also, sprunge.us is great for pastebinning without mouse [21:54] neonflux (~mrjones@ip67-152-80-251.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] you can just boot and type " vga=ask" at the LILO prompt. [21:54] oh yeah sprunge, I forgot the name of that [21:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:54] lynx -dump sprunge.us # to see how to use it [21:55] i use nopaste :p [21:55] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.15.58.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:55] i use a mouse, and ctrl+c/v ;) [21:56] should i try rebooting now yea? [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488E534.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:57] You scan for available video modes, pick one you like. [21:59] thanks rob0 i'll try that [22:02] just for the record guys, it's 3am here, i have work at 9 and i wanna goto bed knowing i can use kde on my laptop. even if the wireless doesnt work, and the res is wrong, and the mouse moves around the screen on its own, all i want is to know that i've accomplished something in these past 5 hours of hell... [22:03] You really ought to take a break and assess everything you did/tried. I suspect something went wrong along the way, because as we said, it should Just Work without config. [22:03] maybe make up a pastebin with all the info [22:04] and indeed, "mouseconfig" can get you a working mouse in console [22:04] edthix (~ed@175.137.36.18) joined ##slackware. [22:05] ok the vga= stuff just changes the terminal resolution, once it gets to starting kms it dies still [22:06] all i've done since the fresh install is change the network config, and downgrade the intel driver [22:06] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-mofzekqxdpmdtcat) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:07] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-usmgffarqmndspfn) joined ##slackware. [22:07] and i wouldn't know what to pastebin because i've not changed any default settings... [22:08] i just know it has something to do with the slackpeople packaging the wrong damned intel driver [22:09] generally, packaging a driver that works is a good idea [22:09] well, maybe lspci, and the lspci -v for the video card, and ... that Intel driver WFM. [22:09] I am using the generic kernel and did nothing for X. [22:09] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:10] edthix (~ed@175.137.36.18) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:10] WFM? not sure what that means i just compiled from source, wasnt sure what else to do... [22:10] works for me [22:12] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) joined ##slackware. [22:12] well it didn't work for me, and several other people as is apparent from the number of people bitching about it online [22:13] this wouldn't be half as bad either if i didn't have to wait 20mins for this to boot [22:15] tavl (~tavl@189.70.217.38) joined ##slackware. [22:17] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.15.58.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:21] i set up and am in charge of 6 debian servers and 43 clients at work, mixed windows and debian clients, single auth system, and i've never spent this long configuring ANYTHING before now. i don't want to learn how to copy and paste from the command line, or send files to a pastebin service from a command line because i have absolutely no use for it... if i want to do that i'll ssh in from a machine that works properly (i.e. has a GUI, and is designed [22:21] to be worked on by humans)... there is clearly a known problem with my graphics card, which remains unfixed. all i'm asking for is a simple solution so i can go to bed [22:22] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.15.58.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.66.228) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:23] Catoptromancy (~Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:24] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.78.227.151) joined ##slackware. [22:25] why does this laptop work with every other major distro, no tweaks required? [22:25] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.31.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:25] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.78.227.151) left irc: Client Quit [22:25] and yet i try the latest and greatest offering from slackware, and it's a fail? [22:25] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:25] areay_N900: WFM [22:26] areay_N900: and yes, I use a computer with a recent intel card on it. [22:26] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.253.81) joined ##slackware. [22:26] this is an old intel card, there's nothing special about it at all... [22:27] there are several posts on google written by people in a similar situation, all of whom had to change the intel driver [22:28] so clearly there are steps that must be taken [22:28] i haven't just messed up a working system, as some of you would like to believe [22:29] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:29] i've tried taking those steps (namely wget, tar, configure, make, make install, X), but to no avail [22:29] Neither have you asked a "smart question" that would enable us to help you. But you ARE whining about Slackware's "wrong damned intel driver". [22:29] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] rob0 yes, because that's what i was told when i arrived in this channel [22:30] that the driver that's included with slack doesn't work with my card [22:35] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:35] hypothetically,using the older xorg 1.6.3 over 1.7x..does it cripple the GMA? [22:36] ok, i cant provide a pastebin, but here's my "smart question": my laptop wont boot, i get past lilo and i get about 30secs of scrollback before my screen goes black and the system continues to load with no visual cues as to wtf is happening... i can use the laptop perfectly fine, with the small but important exception that i cannot see anything... in order for me to be able to login i need to set "nomodeset" at boot. this has happened since the first [22:36] boot after install (so it DWFM). i have an intel i915, which several people have reported as not working with slack. can anyone describe how to fix the problem? [22:36] mlanden i dont understand, if that was meant for me [22:37] areay_N900: no..speaking hypothetically to the room [22:37] and sorry about the delay... i'm ircing on a phone right now, that last msg took me 10mins to write [22:37] ah ok [22:38] nachox (~Ignacio@201.216.213.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:38] I have an i915 that ran 13.0 stock fine and survived the upgrade.. so sorry. it's something with the kms, but I can't say much since that worked with no issues for me [22:39] nah its all good i'm taking this out on the wrong people, i get frustrated pretty easy when im tired [22:39] areay_N900: vga=normal line on lilo.conf [22:39] nyRednek, tried that :/ [22:40] raela: using kms as well...but have intel 2.10 patched to use the older 1.6.3 (intel 865g) [22:41] if someone guides me through setting ath5k to be a wap real quick I can get my intel laptop online and pastebin some files.. guess I could transfer them anyway [22:44] raela, you need hostapd, then it's pretty easy [22:44] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:44] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:44] awesome, slackbuild [22:45] my netbook is i915, but again, it was a do-nothing setup [22:46] I have a barebones AP, no WPA (don't need it where I am :) ), you want my hostapd.conf? [22:46] man, what the hell, the install failed but didn't really say why.. bah [22:46] did you get the 0.6.10? [22:47] I tried to be lazy and go for a sbopkg.. will do it properly now [22:47] I went for 0.7.3 with basically the same slackbuild [22:47] 0.7.2 that is [22:47] basically or totally the same? ;) well minus altering the version line [22:48] altered version line, I think some of the files being copied differ ... checking [22:50] well it's not a big deal to user the older [22:51] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [22:52] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/F3pmHo82.html [22:52] 0.6.10 had a bug [22:52] ohh good to know then [22:52] thanks [22:52] maybe the patch is in the slackbuild, but 0.7.2 doesn't need it [22:52] 0.6.9 worked, FWIW [22:53] oh I forgot my conf [22:56] it's okay, it's building now.. but yeah, it'd be nice to see ;) [22:57] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:58] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/7Rg6jF21.html [22:58] thank you :D [22:58] yw :) [23:01] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:02] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.189) joined ##slackware. [23:02] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.66.228) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:03] it worked, awesome! [23:03] Action: raela hugs rob0 [23:04] rob0's married. [23:04] his husband wont like girls hugging him. [23:04] jeev: did you wash your hands after picking boogers ? :P [23:05] rob0: that nocommend script, is it grep -vh '^[[:space:]]*\(#\|$\)' "$@" [23:05] i dont wash my hands after i do anything [23:05] ? [23:05] they clean themselves [23:05] sahko: a shell alias, something like that, yes. [23:05] err maybe I spoke too soon. I see my laptop trying to connect, but it's getting time outs [23:05] also ; is a common comment [23:06] yeah that's in mine [23:06] nice, i encountered this on the gentoo forum the other day but didnt pay much attention. it seems useful [23:06] tavl (~tavl@189.70.217.38) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:07] function nocomment() { egrep -v '^[[:blank:]]*(;|#|$)' "$@" } [23:08] in /etc/profile.d/local.sh [23:09] bah, whatever. it associates the ap, I get messages in hostapd that something's trying to connect, but dhcpcd is timing out [23:09] ftr http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-160179.html [23:09] is the dhcpd/dnsmasq doing DHCP for that interface? [23:10] just manually assign IP addresses [23:10] not quite sure I followed that. tried to do it via wpa_supplicant, then tried dhcpcd again [23:11] When I lived in a place that needed wireless security, I used openvpn. The wireless was not bridged, but had its own segment which was not routed out. To get anywhere you had to use openvpn. [23:11] well I just wanted to pastebin something.. no big deal. I don't know how to manually do an ip [23:11] and I think the guy left anyway, and it probably wouldn't help [23:12] I might want to switch which laptop is on irc though.. no one appreciates looking at my other laptop.. ah well [23:14] ip addr add / dev # is the syntax with iproute2 [23:15] yup, and the for wifi client, ip add route default via [23:17] route isn't valid apparently [23:18] ip route add default via [23:19] oh duh [23:19] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.119.239) joined ##slackware. [23:19] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] er yeah still something not right. RTNETLINK answers: no such process [23:20] but um yeah, I can just switch the wire over since I need to anyway. thanks though [23:20] <_misfit_> raela, you are trying to access a non existent interface [23:20] _misfit_: that would be because I am an idiot, yes [23:21] <_misfit_> raela, nah happens to me to when the devices get reordered by the kernel [23:21] <_misfit_> especially with my usb wireless in the desktop [23:22] _misfit_: no really I don't know the syntax so I screwed it up [23:22] got to bring up the interface too [23:22] ip link set up [23:22] I bet that was it [23:22] hopefully that's all it is [23:22] nah same issue [23:22] I probably typed something wrong [23:23] <_misfit_> what happens when you type iwconfig [23:23] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:23] <_misfit_> you should see an interface with the wireless info [23:23] raela, what are you trying to do? connect to a network? [23:23] <_misfit_> also make sure there is a link with ethtool |grep Link [23:24] yes, the network shows correctly in iwconfig [23:24] jeev: connect with hostapd [23:24] and you associated to the AP? [23:24] never heard of hostapd [23:24] you cant just dhcpcd ? :D [23:24] yep, ap is listed, essid is there, everything seems fine. 100/100 link [23:24] jeev: trying to connect two laptops via wireless [23:24] wow, mine's not that good [23:25] oh [23:25] if the interface wasn't up, it may not have "taken" the address [23:25] it has the correct mac listed, too [23:25] <_misfit_> is this an open AP? [23:25] rob0: one laptop is on one thigh, one is on the other :P [23:26] ip a # should show the address ; ip r # should have the wireless LAN route [23:26] yes, I didn't set any sort of encryption and I turned the firewall off [23:26] hostapd shows the client connecting? [23:27] it almost looks like the laptop is trying to get an ipv6 address. I could be wrong [23:27] <_misfit_> raela, are you doing a rc.inet1 restart or like dhcpcd wlan#? [23:28] rob0: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/yvZYj524.html [23:28] <_misfit_> also make sure you dont have several dhcp* processes running [23:28] I'm using rc.inet1 restart due to how I have my wireless configured, but I also tried the manual configure like rob0 / trhodes suggested [23:28] looks good there [23:28] yeah. and the iwconfig looks stellar [23:29] it just can't get a lease on an ip [23:29] ifconfig lists eth1 as having an inet6 addr [23:29] <_misfit_> raela, what about this radius? [23:29] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.189) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:29] <_misfit_> is it associating an account with the session? [23:29] that's the entirety of what was put out by hostapd [23:29] That's hostapd reporting that all is well, the client is associated. [23:30] my laptops just hate eachother [23:30] <_misfit_> ah [23:31] show me your ip a ; ip r ; ip l # on the hostapd machine [23:31] <_misfit_> i found http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2009-May/019770.html [23:31] <_misfit_> but no replies [23:31] spook (~spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:32] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:32] rob0: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/t4Td3983.html [23:32] the reason wlan0 has two is because dhcpcd was going for the same ip each time, so I tried adding that one as well [23:32] 192.168.0.69/32 [23:32] you need at least a /30 [23:33] I have no clue what that / is. I left it default [23:33] spook (~spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:33] well, stay simple, use /24 [23:33] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-134-024.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [23:33] ip addr flush dev wlan0 [23:34] ip addr add 192.168.0.69/24 dev wlan0 [23:34] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:34] (um might neeed to bring it up first, ip link set wlan0 up) [23:34] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) joined ##slackware. [23:35] then on the client, ip link set wlan0 up ; ip addr add 192.168.0.68/24 dev wlan0 [23:35] you'll soon be in bidness [23:35] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:36] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] need an iptables SNAT or MASQ rule, and enable forwarding, blah blah [23:36] randomnick (cc0b1b4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.11.27.79) joined ##slackware. [23:36] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:36] randomnick kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Plugging the spam hole. [23:36] or, don't, and just copy stuff to the internetful one [23:37] err okay you just got complicated [23:37] which driver should i be using for a [23:37] Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML [23:37] haha [23:37] no xorg.conf [23:37] turk182, for an intel video card? the -intel driver sounds right [23:37] driver/module for fb [23:38] * [23:38] no fb, only KMS [23:38] how would i troubleshoot kms failure with that setup, then? [23:38] turk182: mine works without any config at all, and I used "vga=ask" and eventually "vga=9" in lilo.conf. [23:39] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@unaffiliated/bagira expired. [23:39] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/bagira' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:39] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:39] raela (1000@cpe-67-249-207-123.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: switching laptops [23:39] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) joined ##slackware. [23:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/bagira' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:39] bagira kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Punches, you are a "poisonous person" and no longer welcome here. Google it. [23:39] rob0: so vga=normal is expected here? [23:39] turk182, depends; 'failure' is pretty generic [23:40] erm let me rephrase that-- so vga=normal would be an expected blank screen? [23:40] I can't stand "vga=normal", never did like it. [23:40] KMS takes over as soon as the i915 module is loaded [23:40] Wait until raela gets back, we might see a useful pastebin for you. [23:40] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.86.45) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:41] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [23:41] rob0: is that @me? [23:41] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] yes [23:41] kk [23:41] raendeer (1000@cpe-24-59-93-33.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:41] raendeer (1000@cpe-24-59-93-33.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:41] raela (1000@cpe-24-59-93-33.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:41] that's why the "haha" because you were asking the same thing someone else did [23:42] haha, bizarre [23:44] Hello all. I just did a fresh install of 13.1 using the Luks cryptsetup from the howto. Worked like a charm. I now need to mount an encrypted drive from my last install of 13.0. Unfortunately the names are the same, so mount is proving difficult. Can anyone provide a hint? Perhaps mounting via UUID? [23:44] raela: pastebin 4 me?!!? lol [23:45] clijunkie, sure, mount by uuid! [23:45] thrice`: Thanks, that's what I thought! [23:45] UUID or label, I prefer label [23:45] ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ should show the correct value [23:46] turk182: sure, sec [23:46] rob0: That's where my problem lies is that I followed the instructions too specifically so they both share the same label of cryptvg [23:47] haha, well, don't do that! [23:48] rob0: Will note that for the future. [23:48] I have the uuid but mount fails with mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS' [23:48] turk182: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/tKYLET50.html [23:48] I have already opened it successfully. I'm using JFS. Would specifying that in the mount cause any problems? [23:49] opened as in unlocked [23:49] raela: is it working for you? [23:50] turk182: yeah, works great [23:50] turk182: my netbook is i915, needed no special config at all [23:50] this is a sony vaio vgn-bx195ep [23:51] it's happening before X is started. it loads lilo, it starts to boot the kernel, and right when the mode switches, bam-- blank screen, but the machine has not died. [23:51] i can still ssh in [23:51] check dmesg then [23:52] see if anything funky is going on [23:52] Mine is using vesafb, not inteldrmfb [23:52] how can i tell which mine is using? [23:52] < raela> check dmesg then [23:53] kk [23:53] john_dee (~id@93-81-118-41.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:53] rob0: but inteldrmfb is so pretty! [23:53] ...not that I can really use it on this laptop [23:54] o/ [23:57] dios_mio (1000@88.244.192.77) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:58] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:58] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.42.109) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [00:00] --- Mon Jul 5 2010