[00:00] a teacher, sorry... late [00:01] antler: It may complicate things that I'm gonna be using other people's research too [00:02] that's not a problem, i think, provided they are referenced. [00:02] is the nature of the lecture academic or business? [00:02] i think you are looking for the creative commons zero license [00:03] mannynix, [00:03] antler: They are referenced, it's academic [00:03] tank-man: yes [00:03] npad|home (n=nick@pool-173-66-2-167.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:03] npad|home (n=nick@pool-173-66-2-167.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] tank-man: Good point, thanks [00:04] is this lecture on their time? [00:04] antler: mm.. not sure I understand what you mean with on their time? sorry for my english [00:05] hm. if i'm an instructor at a university and i write a paper that i later give away, then what body can prevent me from doing so? none, i think. [00:06] hmmm. best command line setup (one-shot script, preferably) for ripping a CD to flac files with tags and a .cue file? [00:06] antler: True, as far as I know [00:06] What reason would KAudioCreator have for reporting "Unable to retrieve CDDB information"? [00:06] antler: Thanks for your input [00:07] mannynix: the difference between a lecture and a paper is in degree and not in kind. tell them to go fuck themselves. [00:07] I can ping freedb.freedb.org, so...? [00:07] antler: lol, sounds good :) [00:07] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:09] jesus i think pink floyd was right. we Don't need no education. [00:09] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [00:09] Glad I asked :) [00:09] mannynix: (i am not accountable if you get fired. i simply stated my opinion) :D [00:09] hehe [00:10] error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or dirctory and error: minix/config.h: No such file or directory These are the only errors I see in config.log. The one that gives the compliant is: checking for perl modules: ExtUtils: :Depends, ExtUtils: :PkgConfig, Glib [00:10] antler: np, I think I'll be safe :) Thanks again [00:11] anytime bruthah. peace and love be with you. [00:11] :P [00:12] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [00:12] :) [00:12] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:12] brb [00:15] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Back. Caught a whiff of my stew: time to stir. [00:17] mmmmmmm. stew. [00:17] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@biq48.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [00:17] Garbage stew. It's the best. [00:17] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] what's a good console bittorent client ? [00:18] rtorrent [00:18] thanks [00:18] Heya, Soul_keeper. You ever get squared away? [00:19] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.248.12) joined ##slackware. [00:19] I just added a user via adduser [00:19] but when I startx (to load dwm) nothing loads. I'm presuming this is because I'm lacking something. [00:19] MrHales yeah, but i screw everything up on my other system now [00:20] MrHales destroyed X [00:20] (well, I say nothing...but I get a tiny psuedo-ui within which I'm running xchat [00:20] Cryp71c: what does X say [00:20] ok this sucks rtorrent wants some deps [00:20] i need to acquire all the x/ series from slack 12.1 as quick as possible [00:20] not many, and they're all available at sbo (if i'm not mistaken) [00:21] Soul_keeper: Maybe bittorrent-curses? [00:21] fluxnuk3r, no error messages, it just doesn't load dwm. [00:21] Soul_keeper: lftp? rsync? [00:21] yeah they don't put the iso's on webpages anymore it seems [00:21] fluxnuk3r, I get a wm technically..it just lacks any bars or anything, and is limited to like 640 x 480 (which is what I'm running xchat in) [00:21] dvd? :P [00:22] i've got the 12.0 and 12.2 iso's sitting in from of me, even the 12.1 cd1 [00:22] Cryp71c: check /var/log/ [00:22] i just need cd2 for 12.1 [00:22] Cryp71c: if you have dwm with a low resolution, saying X isnt working is very inaccurate [00:22] fluxnuk3r, it isn't dwm. [00:22] fluxnuk3r, curiously enough I had dwm and everything working on my root accnt. [00:23] what is the resolution set to in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [00:23] fluxnuk3r, hold on, about to check. What's command to switch to a diff terminal [00:23] Alt + F#? [00:23] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:23] nevermind [00:23] ctrl + alt [00:23] Cryp71c: you know how to use irssi? [00:24] Generally, if something is going to crash and burn if I try to make it, ./configure fails, but the complaint during configure has me concerned... [00:24] how do i make lynx tell me what web address i'm currently at ? [00:24] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [00:24] ok P [00:24] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-1" [00:24] fluxnuk3r, no [00:24] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: SendQ exceeded [00:24] Cryp71c: ok. you have a terminal open though? [00:25] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] fluxnuk3r, yes...resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is 1280x800 .... (down to the smallest resolution) 640x480 [00:26] MrHales i just compiled xorg 7.4 went perfectly smooth, but being modular, it's stupid imo [00:26] modular has always been stupid as far as i'm concerned [00:27] I like modular. Parts get more use that way. [00:27] Cryp71c: set xorg.conf to the highest resolution your monitor can have, and only that. then start X. if it doesnt work, check the Xorg log in /var/log/ [00:27] i miss xfree86 [00:27] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [00:27] before we had to deal with 208 packages [00:27] fluxnuk3r, well I'm looking in the log file for X and a couple of things are coming up as (ww) [00:27] lol [00:27] Action: Soul_keeper remembers like 12 packages [00:28] /usr/share/fonts/local and /usr/share/fonts/CID do not exist [00:28] Soul_keeper: and the descriptions are like "this package is part of X" [00:28] yeah it's a nightmare [00:28] Cryp71c: did you do a full install? [00:29] fluxnuk3r, yes, like I said this works COMPLETELY in root. [00:29] fluxnuk3r, I created a new user via 'adduser' so as to not be in a super-user accnt all the time. [00:29] And this is the result. [00:30] all this drama because something wants me to downgrade gcc and upgrade X, things can't just be simple. not like i want to upgrade/downgrade [00:30] Cryp71c: either your install is bad, or you didnt install all of X if it cant find fonts. root has the power to bypass some problems it encounters [00:31] fluxnuk3r, 1 sec going to stop x and start it under user and check the log. [00:31] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.248.12) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:31] anyways thanks bbl [00:31] God he needs irssi. [00:31] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "BitchX: now a major feature film" [00:33] Goddamn. [00:33] Our box gets rooted, and I'm the only fucking admin awake right now. [00:33] lol [00:34] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.248.12) joined ##slackware. [00:34] fluxnuk3r, copied the contents of the root's .xinitrc into a .xinitrc in the new user's home directory and presto. [00:35] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [00:35] fluxnuk3r, it appears as if the errors from missing fonts are fonts that I told dwm to use that slackware doesn't ship with. [00:38] odd [00:38] you need to use xwmconfig next time you want to change it though [00:38] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:39] ccfreak2k: Murphy'slaw :) [00:40] xwmconfig eh? [00:40] :) [00:40] that sounded like coleslaw. mmmmmm. coleslaw. [00:41] Action: nooper approves of coleslaw [00:41] yep [00:41] man i can really use some kfc right now. toonie tuesdays too [00:41] Cryp71c: gives you a list of window managers/DEs that you have installed and changes your xsession or xinitrc to whatever you want [00:42] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] antler: kfc crispy chicken... [00:42] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:45] man we got some cold fried chicken in the fridge [00:48] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.248.12) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:48] mib_qufp6qrr (i=c4c9d603@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db9f03c0731753d5) joined ##slackware. [00:50] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.248.12) joined ##slackware. [00:50] fluxnuk3r, new problem. Everytime I shut down xchat and reload it...I get the 'first run' screen (where you select desired usernames, etc.) and even if I highlight "do not show server list when starting up" it loads it anyways. [00:51] It would appear that preferences aren't being saved. [00:51] in a terminal run "strace xchat" [00:51] might tell you whats wrong [00:52] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:52] fluxnuk3r, gahaha that spits out thousands of lines of output. [00:53] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:53] yup [00:53] sveva65 (n=sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) left ##slackware. [00:53] fluxnuk3r, its indecipherable. [00:54] not sure, but "strace xchat | grep error" might narrow it down [00:54] never tried that before.. [00:54] fluxnuk3r, it doesn't seem to appropriately pipe the output. [00:55] Appears to be identical to non piped. [00:55] if you have a git version number is there a way to pull the software so you have only that specific version? [00:55] try piping it through less, that way you can scan it [00:55] Might throw a "-i" after grep, in case "error" is capitalized [00:56] fluxnuk3r, piping anything through strace appears to be fail. [00:57] What is contained in /usr/share? [00:57] night all [00:57] NyteOwl (i=nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "There are four types of hats to be aware of: Black, White, Grey and Red. The meanings are: Cracker, Hacker, Guru and Victim. [00:57] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:59] fluxnuk3r, when I run strace xchat as root, I get a LOT less errors (as this user I get a lot of /usr/share/... directory does not exist. [00:59] Karu (n=alch@77-233-86-180.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [01:00] strace whatever 2>somefile [01:00] then look at somefile [01:00] I installed xchat as root before this user was created [01:00] Would that cause problems? [01:01] How else would you install it? [01:01] rworkman, sometime after the user was created? [01:01] IDK, I wasn't sure. [01:01] I'll pipe this by my linux administrator tomorrow to see if he's got an idea. [01:01] Thanks guys [01:01] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.248.12) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:02] wtf? [01:03] hehe [01:03] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:06] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:16] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:18] Yeah I rolled my eyes too. [01:18] How cute. [01:18] They set up a whole environment in /tmp [01:19] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [01:19] rworkman: is libnl-1.1 full of fail? [01:20] epaphus (n=JP@201.199.62.74) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:20] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [01:21] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.179) joined ##slackware. [01:22] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:22] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:22] m... never heard of Kongoni before, interesting. At least now Slackware has a derivative of African origin, with an almost *buntu name :P [01:24] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:25] wow, their ports system is called Pig... [01:27] aporio_ (n=aporio@p4FE8BC21.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] the new wifi stack is going to be nice but it's driving me nuts right now [01:38] i'd still be using slack 10 if the world didn't force me to upgrade ... [01:38] err 7 [01:38] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.65.151) left irc: "good night" [01:39] I liked 10.2 [01:39] Soul_keeper: it was for you own good!! ;) [01:39] Karu (n=alch@77-233-86-180.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:39] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [01:39] everything has gotten too bloated [01:40] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [01:40] Dunno about everything... *I* certainly have. [01:41] What's the catch all term for gdm, kdm, etc? [01:41] does anyone have libnl-2.0 ? [01:42] any idea how to run a modular install once it's compiled and installed to /tmp/modular ? seems issues just keep popping up [01:42] MrHales: Login manager. [01:42] can't find fonts and fglrx [01:43] Thanks BP{k}. I found a login manager whose tarball was just over 200k [01:43] and it's pretty [01:43] :-) [01:43] MrHales: which one? [01:43] SLiM [01:43] From berlios.de [01:44] ah yes, slim is nice :) [01:44] nullboy: the swiss? [01:44] slim on SBo also has a slackware theme, by the way. [01:44] ?! [01:44] i just wanted to port a million lines of code to be stream compatible, can't do that cause X hates me [01:44] MrHales: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/slim/ [01:45] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [01:45] what the hell am i doing wrong [01:45] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10825 [01:47] That theme available seperately? [01:47] Already have slim installed [01:48] elektr1k (n=betrayal@ip68-109-0-89.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] i enjoy warm, creamy hippo sperm [01:48] the chunky clumpy taste of frog sperm [01:48] shooting down my throat... [01:48] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:48] spraying horse eggs all over my back. [01:48] Wow, just when you think you're alone in the Universe... [01:49] MrHales: yes, it's the slackware-black.tar.bz2 file. [01:49] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-155-107.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] thankee [01:49] /usr/share/slim/themes [01:49] There's a great way to get yourself forever banned. [01:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it" [01:49] jkwood: what? talking about slim? ;) [01:49] See, now I didn't scroll all the way down. [01:50] jkwood, i bet he's a windows user :) [01:50] Whatever he is, he's a damn fine poet... baahahahahaha [01:53] i think elektr1k is someone we all know [01:53] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:54] too many weirdos and freaks.... [01:56] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-128.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:57] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:00] That's better. Flat black. Very nice. :-D [02:00] may the fourth be with you all, always.... [02:01] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) joined ##slackware. [02:01] You don't know the powah of the Dork Side! [02:02] dude i'm worse than a dork :P [02:02] Action: MrHales is a Poindexter, First Class [02:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:03] aporio_ (n=aporio@p4FE8BC21.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: [02:05] slackytude (i=10029@p4FD89C63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:05] morning [02:08] Action: slackytude coffee++ [02:10] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:11] If I remove the target from slim.conf's logfile line, will logging be suppressed? [02:11] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [02:11] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. 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[03:58] http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog [03:59] 0_0 [04:00] O_o [04:00] what are we supposed to be looking at? [04:01] new version [04:01] fixes a crash i have seen happen [04:01] eeeGuitarman (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] `marc_ (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] quite a few bug fixes [04:02] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [04:03] those tooltip fixes will be nice too [04:04] Fix some string handling in the SIMPLE prpl [04:04] I wonder if that mean finch will display utf8 characters properly now [04:04] -current is a few pidgin revs behind [04:04] instead of '?' [04:05] it's almost done building! 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[04:53] I find usr/man and usr/share/man [04:53] seems a bit strange [04:54] seems strange to have both I mean [04:54] some really big european wide building project went bonkers due to a combination of clueless users and some strange waay out software handles some stuff [04:54] they were close to recalling it. really big money [04:54] gotta love days like that [04:55] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:55] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:00] Karlitoo (n=Karlitoo@213.137.110.67) joined ##slackware. [05:00] good morning all [05:00] :) [05:00] High_Priest (n=Mean@cable-89-216-181-4.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Excess Flood [05:00] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:00] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-181-4.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [05:08] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [05:15] joe___ (n=joe@122-57-240-40.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:15] Hey how do i turn off the window compositor? [05:16] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:17] should i just hash out "Load glx" in the xorg.conf? [05:18] joe___: in your xorg.conf under Section "extensions" insert Option "Composite" "Disable" [05:18] ahh thats the one, thanks [05:20] joe___ (n=joe@122-57-240-40.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "BitchX: use only under adult supervision" [05:21] joe___ (n=joe@122-57-240-40.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:21] much better =] [05:22] :) [05:26] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:34] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host213-82-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[06:59] lilo -U would do it [07:00] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.35) left irc: [07:00] thanks ananke [07:04] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:10] ananke: hahaha [07:11] zylle (i=c8a411b2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33e13d7d5a3844ab) left ##slackware. [07:14] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:14] zylle (i=c8a411b2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4b20608b164a6610) joined ##slackware. [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-188.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:19] asnesio (i=c90968cf@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-147ba5d566215c7e) left ##slackware. [07:22] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [07:22] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:24] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. 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[07:35] i also use igoogle app.. but it requires web browser opened ;-) [07:37] by default u have a applet with touse funtions [07:37] correct, but it's not easy access to timezone [07:38] touse? [07:39] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [07:39] f'i00nsu: you are talking about "Clock - An analog and digital clock" from Add Applet menu, right? [07:40] yes .. thouse straterra Mad_Dud got meaning as you.. but ok .. sorry everyone make mistakes [07:41] I'm so lost [07:41] sorry [07:42] anyone tried lxde on slackware 12.2 ? [07:42] Action: aperturefever is selling maps $_$ [07:42] lol is the only one I know Mad_Dud if I google it there are 141.000 results :) [07:42] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [07:43] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:44] i00nsu, did you get 101k results of clock applet for kde which also displays timezones with onMouseOver method? [07:45] 141k* [07:45] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:45] man i've been having issues finding a good article on recommended ways to get my laptop's hard drive not to spin up/down as often (trying to save battery) [07:46] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Mad_Dud: with thouse details only 336 [07:48] mannynix (i=mannynix@200.52.211.250) joined ##slackware. [07:49] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [07:49] TwinReverb: I use hdparm -M -S, and -B [07:50] TwinReverb, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_reduce_power_consumption#Hard_Drives [07:50] i am but the @#$ VM causes a disk read like every 5 seconds. i found out how to tune that but still [07:50] hdparm -M128 -S200 -B254 to be exact [07:50] TwinReverb, that is from a wiki dealing with laptops but should be general enough [07:51] TwinReverb, lots of tricks to do with reducing access to hard drive and cd drives and stuff [07:52] thanks but i'm hoping to find some info about /proc/sys/vm/* [07:54] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.221) joined ##slackware. [07:54] TwinReverb, there is some about that as well [07:54] how do i get to know DVD disc title? [07:54] valvola (n=val@193.204.78.80) joined ##slackware. [07:55] And if you want to save power consider reading/using lesswatts http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/ [07:56] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-09d234676375b2a4) left irc: [07:56] Mad_Dud: you can always make this .. /usr/sbin/ntpdate -v ntp-1.mcs.anl.gov ntp-2.mcs.anl.gov .. is not what you ask for but it get what you need [07:57] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-2497125c2c951631) joined ##slackware. [07:57] thank you, sir. maybe i expect too much [07:58] odelot (n=toledo@unaffiliated/toledo) joined ##slackware. [07:58] hi bibas [07:58] real geeks use stardate anyway [07:58] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [07:58] stardate, wtf? [07:58] heh [07:58] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:59] just a bad joke [07:59] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [08:00] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:02] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.22.138) joined ##slackware. [08:03] you can use the mayan calendar [08:04] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.224.128) joined ##slackware. [08:05] nooneelse (n=nooneels@unaffiliated/nooneelse) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "leaving" [08:06] spook, are you drinking agaaaaaain. :P [08:07] eel cannon use whilst under the influence. [08:08] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [08:08] fabricio` (n=fabricio@mailhost.techmaster.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:09] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [08:10] Hey guys I have just been installing dependencies for the last.fm multimedia package, finally got it installed. Once I run the application it asks you to login, so I do, it then errors saying: couldn't connect to the internet to verify your user details, if you use a proxy to connect to the internet please click the button below to enter your proxy details. Well I am on the internet now and don't use a proxy. I suspect its missi [08:10] ng a dependency needed to connect to the net for that application or something similar any ideas? [08:11] maybe you are on transparent proxy [08:11] moonhead (n=trip@ip-129-15-127-233.fennfwsm.ou.edu) joined ##slackware. [08:11] no I am not [08:11] its adsl router + pc [08:11] http://www.last.fm/forum/34905/_/279587/2 [08:12] what's up snoops? [08:13] dusty_: I dunno, sorry. I never use last.fm [08:13] damn [08:13] its odd [08:13] i got no firewall [08:14] quick stupid question. how do i turn on a login/password after resume from suspend to ram/disk? [08:15] hmm [08:15] moonhead: try block with screensaver before the suspend [08:15] Action: slackytude nods [08:15] odelot: then how will he do the echo to do the suspend [08:15] the script should still be able to switch terminals [08:16] also how do i install e17 for slackware? [08:16] moonhead: e.g 5minutes screensaver block the screen, 6 minutes suspend... [08:16] i wanna see what its like [08:16] dusty_: compile it (use scripts to do it for you), or download precompiled packages [08:16] ah, gotcha, odelot. thanks. i'll give that a shot [08:16] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=e17&sv=12.2 [08:16] dusty_: has package in slacke17.sf.net [08:16] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:16] e17 is on sbo [08:16] nice [08:17] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:17] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [08:17] some of it anyway [08:17] e17 on SBo???? what version??? [08:17] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=e17&sv=12.2 <-- e17 is not there [08:17] right, just some libs [08:17] anyone got some screenshots of e17 on slack in action ? [08:18] dusty_: I had one... [08:18] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:18] faffi_ (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [08:18] you fail: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=enlightenment&sv=12.2 [08:19] http://images.google.com/images?q=slackware+e17 [08:19] :D [08:19] damn [08:19] owned again [08:19] guys, slacke17.sf.net [08:20] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:21] or s17 [08:21] I should update my scripts..but I bet they work fine [08:23] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-202173.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:26] strankan` (i=strankan@c-25ce70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [08:28] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.22.138) left irc: ":wq" [08:28] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:30] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] Zygocactus (n=zygocact@201-65-205-22-ebt.cm.ja.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:32] odelot, your suggestion will work if the screensaver comes on. but what i was really hoping to have happen is, when i take the machine down with a pm-suspend command that it comes back up to a password prompt. know what i mean? [08:33] moonhead: put xlock before suspend command [08:35] probably best to run xlock after it resumes [08:35] so 'xlock pm-suspend'? [08:35] or do i need & [08:35] xlock; pm-suspend [08:35] are two commands [08:36] do you use an acpi script? [08:36] no [08:36] oh :( [08:36] i looked around a little for an acpi config file [08:36] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:37] i'm pretty new to slack [08:37] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:37] so i haven't really gotten around to doing any scripts [08:37] here are a couple good ones: http://rlworkman.net/conf/acpi/ (or, at least examples) [08:37] excellent! thank you. [08:38] I think you could probably create an /etc/pm/sleep.d/99LOCK or similar that calls xlock when you resume [08:42] k. thanks for the ideas. i'll look into this. :) [08:42] valvola` (n=fabiovio@193.204.78.80) joined ##slackware. [08:44] rizitis- (n=kvirc@athedsl-4558480.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:45] guys, if i recall correctly, slackware had an iso to boot from usb in machines that didnt have the necesariy support, right? [08:45] hi all [08:45] :) [08:45] Hello [08:47] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.74.67) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:48] nachox: necessary support for what? [08:48] from the bios to boot from usb [08:49] Nick change: IceChant -> IceChant|AFK [08:49] nachox: you are br, you can try #slackware-br :P [08:50] i'm not from brazil [08:50] nooneelse (n=nooneels@unaffiliated/nooneelse) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:51] nooneelse (n=nooneels@201-75-92-95-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:51] ok, You just have usb bootable? [08:52] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [08:52] nachox: lo hermanos :) [08:53] nice, it seems like grub2 can do what i want [08:53] I didn't know grub2 worked on anything yet [08:54] grub is in /testing, I think [08:54] sure, grub 1 :) [08:55] thrice`, i dont really need grub2 to boot anything, i need grub2 to pass the torch to an usb mass storage device [08:55] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:55] nachox: you're just wanting a usb boot image, that doesn't use syslinux then? [08:55] nachox: do you have anythink like sbootmgr [08:56] wanna* [08:56] nachox: its not work [08:56] or your bios has support or not can boot it [08:56] i'm trying to install a debian (cant pick which to install) in a pc that has a cd drive that is broken, but not broken enough not to boot at all and a bios that is old enough that cant boot from usb [08:57] soh, #debian [08:57] this may sound like a stupid question, but seriously, is there a "best" filesystem for a laptop if the desire is low CPU use and more about power saving than all-out raw throughput? discuss. [08:57] nooneelse (n=nooneels@201-75-92-95-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [08:58] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:59] odelot: "going to ##slackware* all so the best" [08:59] how would the filesystem impact anything with the CPU usage... [08:59] gar0t0: shit up [09:00] nachox: why not boot the debian net-install and do it that way? [09:01] thrice`, i dont trust the cd drive enough [09:01] heh [09:01] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:01] maybe its not you that trusts the cd drive.. maybe the cd drive doesn't trust you [09:01] I don't understand your question, then; you say you can't use usb, nor the cd-rom [09:02] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:02] hmm [09:02] nachox: then pull the HD to another PC and isntall there [09:02] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:02] i want to have 11 ttys [09:02] thrice`, that is specifically what i'm trying to aoid [09:02] and move the X tty to F12 [09:02] well i read something recent from Intel that states that they consider ext3 the best for a laptop situation (low throughput, stability is the chief concern, etc) [09:03] thrice`, the cdrom sort of works meaning it does boot but is unreliable [09:03] TwinReverb: and Intel has become the defacto on file systems... when did this happen? [09:03] nachox: anyway to boot from a usb pen drive..? [09:03] nachox: I guess I don't understand; you won't use the cd-rom to install, nor USB, nor will pull the HD out. Are you expecting some magic new method? :) [09:03] mbhayes, just thinking [09:04] thrice`: Osmosis! [09:04] :) [09:04] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:04] i thought that the net-install for debian won't use anything on the cd-rom, other than booting and putting stuff to ram ? [09:04] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [09:05] mbhayes, that is what i'm trying to find out, im wondering if i can burn something to a cd that would jumpstart an usb boot to install a debian from there [09:05] ahhh [09:05] Not sure what debian offers really... [09:05] I can't stand debian* [09:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:07] If you're going to do that, you may as well just do the netinstall... [09:07] icefusion11 (n=icefusio@r249-pr-lajeadogrande.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:07] i hate to ask but really, are there any filesystem integrity issues between ext3, reiserfs, xfs, jfs, etc? is there actually a way to compare them on a stability / integrity level? [09:08] don't believe in gar0t0....he is in the jail xD [09:08] TwinReverb: google [09:08] win 31 [09:08] i have [09:08] icefusion11 (n=icefusio@r249-pr-lajeadogrande.ibys.com.br) left ##slackware ("Novo Endereço do Site: http://www.icefusion.com.br/"). [09:09] TwinReverb: Right now.. I'm testing jfs on my laptop.. [09:09] I normally use xfs on my laptop and ext3/reiserfs on desktops/servers [09:09] but that all depends on if I'm using LVM or not as well [09:09] well honestly i just don't get it but oh well [09:09] ext3 works great for LVM cause you can resize up/down ext3 on the fly.. [09:09] xfs you can resize somewhat.. but you can't "shrink" partitions.. which sucks [09:10] ext3? i didn't know you could shrink ext3. i know you can shrink reiserfs, and i know you can't shrink jfs or xfs [09:10] I'm pretty sure you can resize ext3 parttions in LVM environments [09:10] I could be speaking incorrectly and if I am.. someone correct me so I can stop ! [09:10] how often do you need to resize things? [09:11] thrice`: if I"m using LVM.. I like having that ability.. "Just in case" [09:11] yeah you shouldn't need to resize things often (but even then, if you do, LVM and ReiserFS, i've been there, done that) [09:12] h4ck3r_localhost (n=icefusio@r249-pr-lajeadogrande.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:12] now that i have a decent size hard drive (250GB) i don't have that need any more, so 10GB /, 2GB swap, and the rest as /home works great [09:12] yo [09:12] I think I'm wrong... I think I'm thinking of xfs/reiserfs [09:12] the only thing that would entice me about LVM now would be to do a fully encrypted hard drive [09:12] not ext3 [09:12] xfs cannot be shrank [09:13] nope.. but it can grow [09:13] we were discussion those FS that can shrink AND grow, not just those that can grow [09:13] er discussing [09:13] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] i went banned from slackware-br. Can anybody help me? [09:14] no [09:14] zylle86: why were youb anned? [09:15] i don't know [09:15] heh sure [09:15] yes :) [09:15] hmm [09:15] i don't remember /etc/securetty [09:16] i didn't talk with nobody [09:16] * You have left channel #slackware-br (requested by fallen: "04/03/2009: Hosts internacionais banidos dado o numero de kiddies. Nem reclame pois o ban nao vai sair.") [09:16] wtf [09:16] I *hate* those kind of stealth kicks [09:17] agentc0re1 (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:17] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [09:17] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] i really don't get why they ban people for no apparent reason. [09:17] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:17] pitombera (n=warlike@unaffiliated/pitombera) joined ##slackware. [09:17] :( [09:18] zylle86, so you're not alone now. [09:18] what will we do? [09:18] we have any rulesin #slackware-br. just talk to fallen, plz [09:19] you have any rules? :-D [09:19] tetrix (n=tetrixbr@unaffiliated/tetrix) joined ##slackware. [09:19] sorry, ##slackware-br isn't ##slackware, so we really don't care [09:19] some* [09:20] Nick change: h4ck3r_localhost -> icefusion11 [09:20] me neither, it's just weird. but i really don't give a damn. [09:21] voidpointer (n=void@unaffiliated/voidpointer) joined ##slackware. [09:21] anybody from #slackware-br? [09:21] me [09:21] zylle86: yeah [09:21] me [09:21] :D [09:21] slava_dp: wait.. you were banned for what? [09:21] slava_dp: what the hell does that say? [09:21] gar0t0 is a bot :P [09:21] something about number of kids.. [09:21] lol [09:22] mbhayes, i just joined and got banned after 30 seconds. said nothing. [09:22] mbhayes: kiddies [09:22] slava_dp: wtf [09:22] sounds like someone hijacked the channel [09:22] guys, listen... talk to fallen, plz/win 4 [09:22] slava_dp: use google translator for your help [09:22] :) [09:22] slava_dp me too [09:22] [11:15:39] slava_dp [n=slava@83.170.208.10] saiu do #slackware-br: requested by fallen: "04/03/2009: Hosts internacionais banidos dado o numero de kiddies. Nem reclame pois o ban nao vai sair." [09:22] Hosts international banished I number given it of kiddies. Nor it complains therefore ban does not go to leave [09:22] babelfish = fail [09:22] zylle86: voce foi banido por usar proxy! leia antes de reclamar [09:23] hmm [09:23] hahaha babelfish [09:23] gar0t0: não foi por proxy, a rede não deixa usar proxy [09:23] haha [09:23] maybe "because of the number of script kiddies that have been attacking us, we're auto-banning" ? [09:23] or something [09:23] that's about stupid [09:23] pitombera: yes tor is permited [09:23] yeah lets auto-ban everyone [09:23] AzalynX: yeah, something like this [09:23] maybe they were drunk when they wrote that ban (and/or coded babelfish) [09:23] brb [09:24] afk imho iirc brb wtf [09:24] mbhayes: the focus is Brazilian's users, so ... [09:24] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:24] ah, international hosts [09:24] K4is3r (n=alpkaise@mailhost01.hitech.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:24] well the fail at babelfish is it tries to translate word for word.. so the meaning or context never makes it across [09:24] international hosts are banned [09:24] The topic for #slackware-br is: PORNOGRAFIA|CANTORIAS|FLOOD|TELEVENDAS|BAIXARIAS|TROLL = BAN | LANCADO O SLACKWARE 12.2!!! [09:24] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] well, i don't know brazillian... and i figured out the meaning :| [09:24] brazillian? o.O [09:25] br? [09:25] :| [09:25] portuguese [09:25] portuguese [09:25] =] [09:25] yeah, whatever. [09:25] :) [09:25] you know americans, we don't know anything about other countries, look at the statistics. [09:25] hah [09:26] That's a broad generalization to try and explain your "brazilian" answer ;) [09:26] canada's in the south, rite? [09:26] "Canda is like a loft apartment over a really great party" [09:26] mbhayes: stop exposing my clever plan. [09:27] of course, you should have noticed this first, my host at home: [09:27] [09:19:37] * [Azalyn] (n=junon@modemcable061.93-83-70.mc.videotron.ca): now you're playing with power. [09:27] :P [09:27] and? [09:27] Action: mbhayes was quoting Robin Williams [09:28] kannan (n=kannan@121.246.242.95) joined ##slackware. [09:28] i didn't mean the quote [09:28] Then you're train of thought has derailed and I've been lost in the wreckage.. because I have no idea what you're talking about [09:28] K_wolf (n=wolf@201008255224.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:28] you're train of thought? :| [09:28] dive: sup man :) [09:29] s/you're/your [09:29] i meant the exposing of my brilliant plan, when you said i was making a broad generalization. [09:30] ah [09:31] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] drmanhattan2121 (n=rafa@189-47-242-173.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:31] who [09:31] you [09:31] that's who! [09:31] oh yeah [09:32] tanks [09:32] good band [09:32] drmanhattan2121 (n=rafa@189-47-242-173.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [09:32] odelot (n=toledo@unaffiliated/toledo) left ##slackware. [09:34] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:34] "Hosts international banished I number given it of kiddies. Nor it complains therefore ban does not go to leave" [09:34] use cloak [09:34] raelakoira (n=raela@206.21.75.36) joined ##slackware. [09:35] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-237-227-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left ##slackware. [09:37] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.224.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:37] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:37] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:41] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) left ##slackware. [09:41] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-224-191.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:43] AzalynX: speaking of americans and other countries. When I used to bike to sturgis every year, I told a few people an hour and a half or so south of our border (Great Falls, MNT) that I dogsledded to the border, and then jumped on my bike from there, and they believed me. :P [09:44] hehe [09:44] like rick mercer's "talking to americans" [09:44] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:44] fallen (n=POG@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [09:46] moonhead (n=trip@ip-129-15-127-233.fennfwsm.ou.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:46] man it's been so long since i used a real flavor of linux [09:47] As opposed to fake ones? [09:47] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.165.99) joined ##slackware. [09:47] yeah [09:47] fedora is ace. [09:47] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:47] fedora fede [09:48] i pretty much hate fedora with a passion [09:48] dionysian: reason? [09:48] it didn't work well when i tried it [09:48] it works quite nice nowadays. [09:48] good reason o.O [09:48] that was last week [09:49] vncsnvs: english, please... [09:49] your fault then. [09:49] no [09:49] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [09:49] for example, i need to use the b43 driver to use my wireless [09:49] K4is3r, fedora fede [09:49] so i installed the firmware, and expected it to work [09:50] how foolish of me [09:50] fedora smells bad [09:50] well you can't blame fedora for a crappy wireless work-around. [09:51] mindbendr: it works in slackware, it works under all flavors of ubuntu and mint [09:51] if you can make it working, you could pretty much make it working with fedora as well [09:51] mindbendr, not fedora, just redhat, it's mother [09:51] heil Bob [09:51] how could that be a distro's fault, I'm struggling to get it [09:51] and it worked in fedora randomly after the third reboot and 10 minutes [09:51] mindbendr: they're always "improving" things [09:51] it's like saying when I multiply 2 and 2, it randomly equals to 4 time to time. [09:52] look at what they did to /etc/inittab [09:52] i'd say have a look to slackware's dmesg output to see how many redhat script is being initialized. [09:52] mindbendr: it should work immediately [09:52] i dont like fedora too... [09:53] i prefer debian or slackware :) [09:53] me too [09:53] fedora smells bad [09:53] A hat smells bad? [09:53] < mindbendr> i'd say have a look to slackware's dmesg output to see how many redhat script is being initialized. [09:53] what do you mean? [09:53] straterra, the hat's owner has flakes [09:54] dionysian: dmesg | grep redhat should do [09:54] but fedora didn't crash for two years straight on my web server and it was 6 [09:54] but then i only had 600 users in all that time [09:54] bsdx, it's just a web server, very light proccess [09:54] true very true [09:54] A web server != very light process [09:54] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Karu (n=alch@77-233-86-180.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [09:54] true very true [09:54] a crash != distro specific [09:55] true too [09:55] straterra, yes, its light [09:55] Depends heavily on if its static or dynamic content [09:55] root@bacchanalia:~# dmesg | grep redhat [09:55] root@bacchanalia:~# dmesg | grep fedora [09:55] root@bacchanalia:~# [09:55] straterra, yes [09:55] php5 server mine [09:55] vncsnvs: Really? I have some wb apps that will bring some systems to their knees [09:55] web^ [09:55] straterra: that wb apps must have really crappy code in it. [09:55] straterra, it's not the webserver.... [09:55] mindbendr: Nope. [09:56] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-62-78.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:56] vncsnvs: what? [09:56] straterra, it is it's applications like java or blablabla [09:56] lunch time....bye to all [09:56] the simple proccess to access a machine running apache is very light [09:56] Not necessarily [09:56] but if u have php [09:56] it's more heavy [09:56] icefusion11 (n=icefusio@r249-pr-lajeadogrande.ibys.com.br) left ##slackware ("Novo Endereço do Site: http://www.icefusion.com.br/"). [09:56] Not if Apache is serving heavy dynamic pages [09:56] And a lot of them [09:56] cuz it need to review ever [09:57] What? [09:57] Ether_Ma (i=DJ@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:57] straterra, yeah... dyn pages are heavy [09:57] not stat pages [09:57] Ok? [09:57] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:57] so u agree that serving pages is light [09:57] ? [09:57] No [09:57] not the dyn pages [09:57] It depends on the page.. [09:57] tetrix (n=tetrixbr@unaffiliated/tetrix) left ##slackware. [09:57] you can't just say that running a webserver is light [09:58] K_wolf_ (n=wolf@201009121121.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:58] straterra, yeah [09:58] thats a gross assumption [09:58] straterra, lunch time. c ya [09:58] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:58] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [09:58] o.O [09:58] lol [09:58] so what is it finally, light or heavy? [09:59] Depends on what you are serving [09:59] It CAN be light or heavy [09:59] citizen42alpha (n=kamdf@C-59-100-98-105.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: [09:59] of course. 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[10:09] try lsmod [10:10] it returns blank [10:10] nooneelse: is the same it is in every kernel [10:10] it doesn't differ per distribution. [10:10] I've recompiled the kernel these days [10:10] so I guess I forgot to enable iptables modules [10:10] or something like that [10:10] pitombera (n=warlike@unaffiliated/pitombera) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [10:10] cause it's returning [10:10] nooneelse: either that or your iptables firewall has no rules [10:10] nooneelse: iptables -L [10:11] if there are no rules and default policy is ACCEPT.. no modules will be loaded [10:11] yeah, but my issue is that some rules just return error [10:11] iptables: Unknown error 4294967295 [10:11] a simple rule like [10:11] $IPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $LAN -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 [10:11] like some module was missing [10:12] Unknown error 4294967295, eh? thats way better than Unknown error 4294988295 [10:12] that one sucks [10:12] slackytude bot [10:12] ? [10:13] huh? [10:13] thought you was a bot [10:13] :( [10:13] sorry [10:13] np [10:13] lol, but, someone knows the reason for this error ? [10:14] do I need recompile, load ... ? [10:14] Action: slackytude has no clue [10:14] eeeGuitarman (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] lucky for me, I never got that [10:14] cos it looks like a bitch to debug [10:14] hard to google too [10:14] I've searched on google and stuff and most of people got this problem after recompiled the kernel [10:14] i can't remember what i was going to do [10:15] K_wolf (n=wolf@201008255224.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: No route to host [10:15] maybe I should [10:15] 1 - check kernel options [10:15] 2 - recompile iptables [10:15] 3 - Put a bullet on my head [10:15] 4 - profit $$ [10:15] switch to ubuntu [10:16] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-101-221.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:16] slackytude, dionysian both aren't linux world solutions [10:16] at least not for me [10:16] sorry, I'm gonna shut up now [10:16] juice_ (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [10:17] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:18] nooneelse: instead of a bullet, just pop some prozak [10:19] Makaveli4life_ (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [10:21] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:21] nooneelse: have u backed up the kernel?/ [10:21] i was going to reboot for some reason, but now i can't imagine why [10:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [10:22] what's the current kernel, anyway [10:27] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:28] valvola` (n=fabiovio@193.204.78.80) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [10:28] valvola (n=val@193.204.78.80) left irc: "valvo is shutting down..." [10:28] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Zygocactus (n=zygocact@201-65-205-22-ebt.cm.ja.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [10:29] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:29] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] hmm [10:30] dunno if 2.6.27 to 2.6.28 is enough of a jump to bother with compiling [10:30] then again, this is a stock hugesmp [10:30] pupit1 yes, but the previouskernrel was the original one from 11.0 slack [10:30] nooneelse: do u know what u want? [10:31] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.14.8) joined ##slackware. [10:31] actually, I have the system running, and looks like stable, but the iptables [10:31] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.218.157) joined ##slackware. [10:31] returns and error when trying to apply ya rule for transparent squid [10:31] $IPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $LAN -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 [10:31] recompile iptables? [10:32] must be a good one [10:32] will try now [10:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:32] and update it too if it have some update [10:32] i'd recompile against the new kernel headers before i tried to recompile the kernel again [10:32] i don't like recompiling the kernel [10:33] dionysian: maybe he didn't include it in recomp. kernel.. [10:33] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-224-191.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:33] or a modul [10:34] dionysian, stable ext4 support for 2.6.28 [10:34] might be worth it [10:34] ext4 is ready for prime time? [10:34] since 2.6.28 [10:34] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:34] i need to look into that [10:35] what does it offer? [10:35] Makaveli4life (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] K_wolf_ (n=wolf@201009121121.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:35] is supposed to be faster, both during normal operation and fsck. just take a quick google, there is lot of info [10:36] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:36] slackytude something about ext4 vs. reiser ? [10:37] it's better ? or alternative, or just another ext fs ? [10:37] I guess for desktop reiser is good, and for some servers it is too [10:39] Action: slackytude shrugs [10:40] Ive been using reiser for years and never had trouble with it [10:40] Im not running ext4, Ive just heard about it from others, tho [10:40] For what reasons would you branch off and try another filesystem when the default works well ? [10:40] and compared to ext3, its a big improvment, or so I get told [10:41] I've looked it into the new filesystems section [10:41] dusty_, uh, when you spent an hour waiting for ext3's fsck, call me again [10:41] I never heard about it, but since I'm away from linux machines since last year, it's not a surprise [10:42] ext4 sounds nice but i'm not going to wipe my drive and reinstall linux just to use ext4 :) [10:42] you dont need to do that, afaik [10:42] slackytude, So because fsck take's a bit of time, thats the only reason ? [10:42] I guess it's needed onlyy if you're a fanatic for new stuff [10:42] I see [10:42] dusty_, no, not the only reason, but its a good one, no? [10:42] of a GOOOOD improve of access, r/w time [10:42] well you can mount an ext3 drive as ext4, to gain some modest benefit [10:43] slackytude, I seldom do fsck checks on my desktop. [10:43] great [10:44] so if i compile a new kernel with ext4 support, and mount my existing ext3 drives as ext4... i'll experience some major performance benefit? [10:44] i'm very skeptical [10:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:44] chilkewar (n=chilkewa@203.115.68.32) joined ##slackware. [10:44] me too [10:44] I might test it out in a vm. [10:44] thank you for the tips and the talk guys, got to lunch here [10:44] back later [10:44] bye!! [10:44] see ya [10:44] bye [10:44] nooneelse (n=nooneels@unaffiliated/nooneelse) left irc: "gone to lunch!!!!" [10:46] Nick change: dusty_ -> MrDusty [10:46] raelakoira (n=raela@206.21.75.36) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:46] mannynix (i=mannynix@200.52.211.250) left irc: "bbl" [10:47] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [10:47] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:57] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] tea4me (n=tea4me@DSPC3.WPI.EDU) joined ##slackware. [11:00] i wish i could remember why i was going to reboot [11:00] sc0rm (n=sc0rm@cpe-98-144-0-185.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:02] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-2497125c2c951631) left irc: [11:05] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:07] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) left irc: "Leaving" [11:07] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) joined ##slackware. [11:07] I think I have noobfarm material [11:08] [09:04:07] I personally think that SQL sessions should stay active [11:08] [09:04:26] Your mom should stay active [11:09] eh? [11:09] whats noobfarm? [11:09] noobfarm.org :P [11:10] slow site [11:10] :| [11:10] oh its like bash.org [11:10] ok [11:10] heh [11:10] tewmten, dont tell me you really dont know noobfarm [11:11] why should i know it? a copy of bash.org filled with stupid geek quotes.. :D [11:12] thats not really on top of my list of "stuff to know" [11:12] epaphus (n=JP@201.199.62.74) joined ##slackware. [11:12] strankan` (i=strankan@c-25ce70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:12] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:14] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:14] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:14] < tewmten> thats not really on top of my list of "stuff to know" [11:14] qft [11:14] never heard of noobfarm before [11:14] slackytude, i never knew noobfarm existed until i heard about it here on irc two months ago. [11:14] kind of sad that i have, now [11:14] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:14] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Nick change: rizitis- -> rizitis [11:15] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) left irc: "Leaving" [11:15] Action: slackytude shakes head [11:15] i wish i could erase it from my memory and replace it with something useful [11:15] anyway [11:15] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:15] work hours over [11:15] noobfarm is great [11:15] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:15] tea4me (n=tea4me@DSPC3.WPI.EDU) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [11:15] see you tomorrow for another fine episode for irc-while-work! [11:15] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) joined ##slackware. [11:15] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:15] have a good evening, slackytude [11:15] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:15] thx ^-^ [11:16] you do , too [11:16] tea4me (n=tea4me@DSPC3.WPI.EDU) joined ##slackware. [11:16] slackytude (i=10029@p4FD89C63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "off off off" [11:16] Nick change: moha_ -> mohaa [11:18] tea4me (n=tea4me@DSPC3.WPI.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [11:20] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.250) left irc: "leaving" [11:20] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.165.99) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:20] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:20] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:22] tea4me (n=tea4me@DSPC3.WPI.EDU) joined ##slackware. [11:22] tea4me (n=tea4me@DSPC3.WPI.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [11:23] tea4me (n=tea4me@DSPC3.WPI.EDU) joined ##slackware. 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[11:37] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.201.210.130) joined ##slackware. [11:37] FDCX (n=root@94.176.32.6) joined ##slackware. [11:39] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:40] tea4me (n=tea4me@DSPC3.WPI.EDU) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [11:40] someone can tell me if this is right [11:40] iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 [11:40] ? [11:40] cubas (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [11:41] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Nick change: vncsnvs -> AtalibaLeonel_AW [11:41] Nick change: AtalibaLeonel_AW -> AtalibaLeonelOUT [11:41] hi, did anybody here install vmware server? pls let me know if you were dealing with the vmmon problem [11:42] What vmmon problem? [11:42] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:43] epaphus (n=JP@201.199.62.74) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:44] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008255224.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:44] None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Server is suitable for your [11:44] running kernel. [11:44] after trying to run vmware-config.pl [11:44] Nick change: AtalibaLeonelOUT -> AtalibaLeonel [11:45] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.14.8) left irc: "Leaving" [11:45] a lot of people seems to have this problem...but usually on the older kernel versions... [11:47] google says that vmware-any-any-update should help but it doesn't, I spent whole day trying to solve it [11:47] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [11:47] practically on brand new slackware 12.2 installation [11:47] straterra the vmmon problems you say is what about cubas just talking about [11:47] FDCX_ (n=root@94.176.32.6) joined ##slackware. [11:48] straterra if you're having trouble while compiling the services you must download the patch to fix it [11:49] err what? [11:49] Nick change: AtalibaLeonel -> bob_vncsnvs [11:49] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.146.10) joined ##slackware. [11:49] cubas: uhm..compile the module for your kernel then [11:49] That isn't an issue [11:49] straterra foa, what the problem you're having with vmmon ? [11:49] nooneelse: I'm not? [11:49] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [11:50] cubas: you'll need PAM for vmware server though [11:50] how do i change from a terminal to another one? [11:50] straterra, I took care of all these obvious things like the pam [11:50] bob_vncsnvs ctrl+f... ? [11:50] Obvious? [11:51] Just let vmware compile the damn module o.O [11:51] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:51] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:51] straterra sorry man, I have answered to the wrong nickname =/ [11:51] well you may notice that you have to do it everywhere [11:51] straterra many times [11:51] cubas: yeah? [11:51] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.201.210.130) left irc: "leaving" [11:51] cubas: the problem is..what? [11:52] straterra, it doesn't make the compilation, it doesn't like the headers I have [11:52] Ok..paste relevent output for that [11:53] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:54] cubas my experience with vmware-WORKSTATION version, is that, I have that trouble with kernel headers while compiling the vmmon and other services but vmware-any.... did the trick for me... [11:54] cubas maybe you should search for vmware-server-any-any... I guess [11:55] nooneelse, and when did you do it and what version of the any-any patch did you use ? [11:55] there is a lot of them, who knows if you can trust it [11:55] there is 115, 116, 117, 118 versions :) extremely 3rd party :) [11:56] yeah, it has, but usually I look for the LAST build [11:57] if you're using LAST build of vmware-server [11:57] of course [11:57] FDCX_ (n=root@94.176.32.6) left irc: "Leaving" [11:57] FDCX (n=root@94.176.32.6) left irc: "Leaving" [11:57] FDCX (n=root@94.176.32.6) joined ##slackware. [11:58] FDCX (n=root@94.176.32.6) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:59] cubas what's your kernel version / [11:59] 2.6.27.7 [11:59] this is a dist kernel ? [11:59] of have your recompiled ? [11:59] dist [12:00] do you have the source package isntalled ? [12:00] of the headers [12:00] *or [12:00] your vmware server is the 1.0.8 ? [12:01] bob_vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "trampo" [12:02] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [12:02] VMware-server-2.0.0-122956.i386 ...I tried /usr/src/linux/include and /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7/ [12:02] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [12:02] neither of them works [12:03] http://pastebin.ca/1352780 [12:03] this is the unsuccessful make [12:03] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:03] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [12:04] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:05] giuppy (n=giuppy@host13-43-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:05] I should have probably stick with 1.0.* versions [12:05] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-207-28.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [12:06] cubas I've googled and saw many people with same problem [12:06] cubas: why not go with VirtualBox instead? [12:06] looks like this version 'make' is messed up [12:06] chopp I guess VMWARE is way long time "grown up" than VirtualBox [12:07] do I have to load a kernel module for using a usb mouse? [12:07] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_VMware seems to be my inspiration [12:07] I have a ps2 mouse connected to a ps2 to usb adapter but it doesnt works [12:07] RaNdY (n=randy@unaffiliated/randy) left irc: [12:07] chopp, I prefer vmware, the way networking is done etc. [12:07] dissociative so you don't need a usb module [12:08] but a PS2 [12:08] VirtualBox works, what more do you need. [12:08] K4is3r (n=alpkaise@mailhost01.hitech.com.br) left ##slackware. [12:08] cubas: virtualbox's networking is... not that bad... [12:08] its actually MUCH easier since they released 2.1.0 [12:08] chopp :) it depends the point of view for WHAT you will use [12:08] nooneelse: the adapter has a female ps2 connector and a male usb connector [12:08] is any app to get the IP of a know MAC address [12:08] i00nsu: arp is your best bet [12:08] dissociative ah ok [12:09] but It doesnt work by default [12:09] haha .. i always forgot that .. thankz [12:11] dissociative: thats wierd, i finnish installing XP in a VM with VB and everything works fine.. my mouse is usb too [12:11] cubas well, doesnt seem to be ONE person that worked this build you have with any-any patchs [12:11] cubas my advice is that you should try to debug by yourself [12:11] cubas try use 'strace' with 'make' [12:12] cubas and see where and when the file it's trying to open is missing [12:12] then fix on the required file [12:12] or use other build of vmware-server [12:12] nooneelse, I'll probably have to [12:12] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) joined ##slackware. [12:13] cubas I actually use vmware-workstation on my job [12:13] and works fine for me, and don't know how the server version diffs about the other but... [12:14] whatever [12:15] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-207-28.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [12:15] othermindszine (n=othermin@45.sub-70-192-124.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [12:16] giuppy (n=giuppy@host13-43-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:16] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] icefusion11 (n=icefusio@r249-pr-lajeadogrande.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:16] I dont get one simple thing: If my XP [ on my virtualbox ] have internet, why I can't ping? why if I use arp -a his MAC don't appear ? [12:18] are you using host networking or NAT? [12:18] NAT [12:18] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.213) joined ##slackware. [12:18] that's why [12:18] The Virtual machine won't have a "publically" accessible IP [12:18] the internal DHCP server in VB issues out an IP [12:19] If you want it to have an IP on your network.. shut the VM down.. change the setting from NAT to HOST in the VM's network settings and start it back up [12:19] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:19] host? [12:20] oh yeah..you have to manually bridge in virtualbox [12:20] LAME [12:20] no you don't [12:21] Not in the latest versions [12:21] nice... i thought that NAT just simply make things easy to get internet working.. thankz for info [12:21] i00nsu: np [12:21] So then it should offer three different kinds.. bridged, host, and nat [12:22] which I believe it does [12:22] dunno but the oly thing "bridged" would be useful for is assigning a hardware network card directly to the VM [12:22] JerrySabor (n=mrsabor@63-149-142-34.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] well I only get HOST and internal network that is bridge? [12:23] or anything that does broadcasting [12:23] i00nsu: Yeah that's fine.. just use HOST [12:23] you used to have to manually configure a bridge on your HOST OS to do HOST networking.. no longer [12:23] jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:24] virtualbox ftl [12:24] ahhh .. nice now is has a IP from the internal lan [12:25] Nick change: jiraia_ -> jiraia [12:25] nooneelse, solved :) [12:27] I got vmmon.tar vmnet.tar specially for my kernel version and replaced them in /usr/local/lib/vmware/modules/source [12:28] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:28] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [12:28] if anybody needs help about it, here http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_VMware is everything he would need [12:29] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:30] nooneelse (n=nooneels@unaffiliated/nooneelse) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:30] but finally another surprise: None of the pre-built vmci modules for VMware Server is suitable for your kernel :) [12:30] That's NOT a suprise [12:30] At all [12:30] nooneelse (n=nooneels@201-75-92-95-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:31] someone have some clue about why I cannot use the PREROUTING chain of my iptables ? [12:31] it returns iptables: No chain/target/match by that name [12:32] but the POSTROUTING works [12:32] No kernel support? [12:32] straterra yeah but sounds strange since POST works [12:32] I believe they are two different parameters in the kenrel [12:32] doesnt post and pre are the same module ? [12:32] kernel [12:32] hmm [12:32] I could be wrong [12:33] nooneelse: how are you entering data into that chain? [12:33] iptables -I PREROUTING or something [12:33] the most simple way I could [12:33] it should be something like: [12:33] it's a 'squid transparent' rule [12:33] $IPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $LAN -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 [12:33] hrm. [12:33] try -I instead of -A [12:34] iptables -t nat -L should list out the chains you have [12:34] I have all [12:34] POST, PRE and OUTPUT [12:35] mbhayes with -I it returned Bad argument `tcp' [12:35] but was because the $LAN variable [12:35] when I put the eth0 [12:35] it returned the same "no chain" error [12:36] er [12:36] it looks to be all supports for this on kernel enabled [12:36] Its gotta be something with your prerouting line [12:36] mbhayes I thought too [12:37] but ALL searchs on google returned the SAME line [12:37] could all be wrong ? [12:37] even with -F all tables and inserting it on a clean iptables [12:37] return the same error [12:37] dive just a FYI, thanks again for your help and my window manager seems to be running robust still [12:37] ok no [12:38] it's strange cause it's only on PREROUTING chain [12:38] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] np* [12:38] iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 ? [12:38] try just that.. [12:38] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-155-107.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:38] mbhayes that line returned => iptables v1.4.2: Unknown arg `(null)' [12:38] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] argh [12:39] wait.. PREROUTING would be for dnat right... [12:39] Nick change: asarch -> macarron [12:39] mbhayes I supposed too [12:39] iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to-port 8080 [12:40] iptables v1.4.2: Unknown arg `(null)' [12:40] its been aw hile since I did prerouting [12:40] k.. hrm [12:41] is eth0 the external address? [12:41] hi [12:41] there is any logging system for ghostscript ? [12:41] mbhayes no I have only one card on this machine [12:41] i have trubles with fonts under printing [12:41] So you're trying to do a port redirect from 80 to 8080? [12:41] yes, just for Squid stuff [12:41] makes sense [12:42] mac- maybe you should check /var/log/messages [12:42] when i`m trying to pront i.e. openoffice doc with TimesNewRoman font (I don`t have it on my system) printer throw out paper with error printed [12:42] mac- and see if some font is missing [12:42] nooneelse: your original line is correct.. wtf [12:42] nooneelse: let me test something on my box [12:42] What is the american martial art actor called? the one people always make "so awesome" jokes about? [12:43] there is any way to redirect it that when it hangs with pront with font that i don`t have it should use some otger default font ? [12:43] nooneelse: something is wrong with your setup then... I just issued it on both slamd64 and on the box I'm on now.. works fine. [12:43] nooneelse: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 [12:43] worked perfectly [12:43] Gargantua: Chuck Norris? [12:43] yeah [12:43] hehe he's old and slow now.. although I wouldn't wanna come up against him in a fight still... [12:44] I would o.O [12:44] Not to mention he's republican. [12:44] I have a Scoprion that would uh..make him holy [12:44] mbhayes so.. I guess it's a kernel missing support [12:44] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:44] Scorpion^ [12:44] straterra: fight here does NOT mean to have sex with [12:44] Chuck Norris has read a lot of the facts written about him online but has never submitted any himself because he doesn't believe in any form of submission [12:44] I know [12:44] Nick change: macarron -> amig_bronco [12:44] Nick change: amig_bronco -> amigo_bronco [12:44] mbhayes but, as I told before, I'm not a kernel master [12:45] mbhayes maybe I could be missing something [12:45] then you shouldn't be using a custom kernel :) [12:45] actually I didnt marked nothing about netfilter on kernel [12:45] wtf [12:45] thrice` good one :) [12:45] thrice` but where can I found a well compiled (recent) kernel for slackware 11 ? [12:46] lol twolf [12:46] you can use the config from 12.2 [12:47] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:47] Gargantua twolf means... ? [12:47] Action: twolf isn't sure [12:47] thrice` it works fine on 11.0 ? [12:47] It means awesome. [12:47] rworkman: hey ..are you are you around? [12:47] fallen (n=POG@unaffiliated/thefallen) left ##slackware. [12:47] nooneelse: the kernel config is for whatever version you pull from 12.2.. vanilla kernel source + that config should work just fine. [12:48] how we update the slackbuilds? [12:48] i have got one in there ..needs updating [12:48] just email them, right? [12:48] mbhayes I'm not trying to abuse of your goodness but [12:48] where can I find the config for 12.2 ? [12:48] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:48] i'm asking you cause it got APPROVED="rworkman" ;) [12:49] errordeveloper, this is your slackbuild? [12:49] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:49] mbhayes does the binary of 12.2 works on 11 ? [12:50] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:50] errordeveloper: your aware of #slackbuilds right? [12:50] why not update ? [12:50] if not then you probably need get in touch with the maintainer [12:52] errordeveloper: MAINTAINER is what you need, not APPROVED. [12:56] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) joined ##slackware. [12:57] hmm how do I setup my wireless to automatically connect to a particular network using a particular wpa key etc. ? [12:57] I use wicd right now and it works fine .. buts it a massive pain [12:58] in particular, I don't want to startx everytime to browse [12:58] BP{k}: MAINTAINER="errordeveloper" ;) [12:59] duryodhan_: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10486 [12:59] errordeveloper: Then just submit the update through the normal channels. [13:00] BP{k}: that means email, right? [13:00] yes; email yourself an update [13:00] errordeveloper: ...... [13:00] NO. [13:00] sc0rm (n=sc0rm@cpe-98-144-0-185.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:00] errordeveloper: http://slackbuilds.org/guidelines/ <-- Normal channels. [13:01] icefusion11 (n=icefusio@r249-pr-lajeadogrande.ibys.com.br) left ##slackware ("Novo Endereço do Site: http://www.icefusion.com.br/"). [13:01] MAINTAINER="$randomperson" [13:02] mbhayes: he is the maintainer [13:03] Nick change: she_dyed -> she_zzz [13:03] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:04] errordeveloper: about time pd gets updated ;) [13:04] hi BP{k} :] [13:04] ip_tunneling is necessary for prerouting, postrouting stuffs ? [13:05] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Karu (n=alch@77-233-86-180.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:07] Karu (n=alch@77-233-86-180.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [13:07] epaphus (n=JP@201.199.62.74) joined ##slackware. [13:07] duryodhan_, is there something wrong with /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf? [13:08] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] eh ? [13:08] Karu (n=alch@77-233-86-180.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [13:09] BP{k}: hey ..do you use pd? [13:09] thrice`: I know.. I was being a jack ass [13:09] errordeveloper: no. [13:09] bijit (n=chatzill@216.25.163.115) joined ##slackware. [13:09] kids, learn [13:10] if you're recompiling the kernel and need to use REDIRECT with iptables [13:10] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [13:10] BP{k}: did you just look up which package i'm maintaining? [13:10] remember to mark "REDIRECT target support" on kernel options [13:10] nooneelse: I win. [13:10] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] straterra yes yes, thank you for tell me for look on kernel options [13:10] :) [13:11] I am trying to add a flag when scritpting so next time I run it, it changes.. [13:11] mbhayes a missing kernel option =~ [13:11] Action: nooneelse feels so stupid and happy now [13:11] errordeveloper: of course, how else would I know. ;) [13:12] well .. [13:12] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [13:13] anyone have an idea how to do it? [13:14] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:14] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-76-178.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [13:15] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:15] bijit: sed a variable inside the script [13:15] ? [13:16] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) joined ##slackware. [13:18] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) joined ##slackware. [13:18] wow .. that didn't work .. [13:19] Error for wireless request "Set Nickname" Set failed .. operation not supported [13:19] that's OK [13:19] it might have still worked [13:20] nooneelse (n=nooneels@unaffiliated/nooneelse) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:20] bijit (n=chatzill@216.25.163.115) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [13:20] it didn't .. i tried ifconfig [13:20] do I need to set DHCP_IPADDR ? [13:20] Nick change: amigo_bronco -> asarch [13:21] and .. I didn't set psk to the plain text string. . I set into the hash and wpa_supplicant gives me .. thats all right ? [13:21] HoldMyPocket (n=holdmypo@autodiscover.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] *that wpa_supplicant gives me [13:21] yep [13:21] my DHCP server and AP and router are all the same [13:21] chopp: you might want to do that to your config too [13:21] to whatever wpa_passphrase ssid pass gives ? [13:22] yeah [13:22] I get that error you posted above too, everytime mine connects, but dhcpcd still connects OK [13:22] ohh I need to run dhcpcd ? [13:22] I thought that would have been automatic .. [13:23] well, did you change stuff in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf ? [13:23] http://directory.fsf.org/ anyone see a submission form on this website ? [13:24] the big "JOIN" at the top right? [13:24] JP_ (n=JP@201.199.62.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:25] yeah I set IFNAME[4]="wlan0" ;WLAN_ESSID[4] to my Essid ;WLAN_WPA[4]="wpa_supplicant"; IPADDR[4]="" [13:25] duryodhan_: ok, so, after trying with "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 wlan0_restart" ? [13:26] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [13:26] thats what it gives me as error [13:26] I do ifconfig / iwconfig and it seems to say connected to my ESSID .. but I am not sure .. it doesn't have IPAddress but I think it is connected .. how do I check ? [13:26] ping google.com ? [13:27] no no .. I mean I dont have IP so I won't be able to access anything [13:28] kinda like the difference between getting an IP in ethernet and just the simple "Link is up" [13:29] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:29] nooneelse (n=nooneels@201-75-92-95-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:33] j0z (n=JESUS@201-89-26-10.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:34] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [13:36] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120121]" [13:36] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] trying to mount a partition on a SATA disk (I just got set up) and mount says "No such file or directory".... do I have to reboot for partition table changes to take effect? [13:38] Action: theblackbox goes and pokes Google [13:39] theblackbox, if you have rewritten the partition tables then I *think* you should reboot [13:40] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:43] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) joined ##slackware. [13:43] afai seen, linux reads it again on its own, but rebooting is the safe choice ;) [13:44] hi .. now it crashes at DHCP atleast .. what I don't get is why it is trying any ESSID [13:44] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.146.10) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [13:45] it crashes on a dhcp timeout .. but why doesn't it use my ESSID that I have set in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf directly/ [13:45] Action: Camarade_Tux got so tired of wifi, no matter the OS, he switched back to ethernet and is so much happier now =) [13:46] yeah, I'd figured... cheers [13:46] DeeeeP (i=0@bl4-205-73.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:46] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:46] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:46] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201009121121.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:46] hahaha [13:47] Camarade_Tux, much the same.... I got bored waiting to transfer slackware dvd iso.... gave up after several days =S [13:48] days ? [13:48] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:48] why days ? [13:48] does anybody have a package for TI-89 (TiLP)? [13:49] wifi is so much user-unfriendly that I'm sure we will soon see "plug-and-play wifi" [13:50] ... [13:50] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:52] yeah, "plug" is probably a bad word for something wire-less... :D [13:58] tribeca (n=naitso@host178-240-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:01] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-14-80.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Camarade_Tux: although for most wireless requires you to at least plug something into your computer. ;) [14:03] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008255224.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:04] BP{k}, most laptops don't... [14:04] its all internal :P [14:04] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.0.230) joined ##slackware. [14:04] epaphus (n=JP@201.199.62.74) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [14:05] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:05] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:06] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:06] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:06] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:06] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:07] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:07] evening. [14:07] Camarade_Tux: PnP wifi? what's that? [14:09] edman007: You can pull the minipci board out and replace it. It's not that big a deal. [14:09] sounds like wandering aimlessly about with an antenna trying to find something to plug it in [14:10] jkwood: not in all machines [14:10] jkwood, not always [14:10] jkwood, generally once it ceases to be an option and make it mandatory they usually put it right on the mobo, its cheaper that way [14:11] Interesting. I haven't encountered a single laptop with an on-motherboard wireless chipset. [14:11] Also..some BIOS's check for the specific card [14:12] I think mine's on the mobo - T42 [14:12] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: "Leaving." [14:12] I tried to replace the broadcom in a couple of my HP's with an Intel Pro..and it would boot and go "unauthorized wireless. please remove and reboot" or something to that effect [14:12] straterra: may i laugh? [14:12] At what? [14:12] HP... suckage [14:12] indeed :) [14:13] HP are not the only ones that do that. [14:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.213) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:13] friend of mine bought a HP Nedia Centre and wants to upgrade cpu - I looked up the model numbers and they seem to have released several 100s lol [14:14] Why do they do that? [14:14] pi31415: to protect you ;) [14:14] probably same reason they do that to hard drives - to make sure only they can upgrade/repair it [14:15] or used to - don't know current state of things [14:15] I've never had a problem installing a 3rd party wireless card or hard drive in a Dell PC [14:15] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195399.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:19] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [14:19] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] stybla, what I had in mind was a wifi that wasn't a complete pita to configure and set [14:19] Action: jkwood hugs his "Do whatever the heck you want" Dell [14:20] Camarade_Tux: it's not :s [14:22] maybe it's the simili protections that make configuring some connections so annoying [14:22] but when going to a foreign place which should give you wifi, you always need to set at least three/four things [14:23] oh please :) [14:23] nooneelse (n=nooneels@201-75-92-95-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:23] wpa_supllicant is suposed to work with any card that supports WPA ? [14:23] it would maybe be better if you were just given the settings and not the baaaad explanations (I had somebody tell me I had to set my HTCP/IP address...) [14:26] Neo_The_User (n=Neo_The_@c-24-12-193-200.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] hi [14:26] any trolls in here ATM? [14:27] Neo_The_User: first and final warning [14:27] Joker_-_ (n=joker@64.235.198.63) joined ##slackware. [14:27] lolz no wai [14:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Action: edman007 gives alienBOB a bat [14:28] hahahaha [14:28] edman007: he followed me from another channel, testing me [14:29] Indeed. [14:29] I am _very_ short-fused at the moment [14:29] _so_ am i [14:29] cubas (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [14:30] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*200.hsd1.il.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:30] Neo_The_User kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You should not have tried to test me [14:30] Action: edman007 hugs alienBOB [14:30] haha [14:30] alienBOB: that was quick [14:31] I was prepared. He is an asshole on #videolan. A 15 year old kid with a too big ego and no social IQ at all [14:31] :p [14:31] heh [14:32] alienBOB, slackboy needs troll detection! [14:32] any trolls in here ATM? [14:32] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) joined ##slackware. [14:32] ^ should get an auto-kick [14:33] He is now threatening in #videolan that he will return using proxies [14:33] lucvdv (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:33] btw, mibbit is banned from the channel now, right ? [14:33] I restarted and I am getting "Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory" [14:34] Camarade_Tux: Not at the moment. [14:34] /bans [14:34] Camarade_Tux: I don't know if mibbit is still banned but I will do it again if needed [14:34] duryodhan_, uhh, you restarted wpa_supplicant? is it running? [14:34] please don't unless absolutely needed [14:34] I restarted comp [14:35] (the first line was for alienBOB [14:35] Of course, I don't think that takes slackboy into account. [14:35] I tried to connect using mibbit last week I think and couldn't, no big deal [14:35] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/failed-to-connect-to-wpasupplicant-wpactrlopen-no-such-file-or-directory-611577/ .. alienBOB asked him to post his wpa_supplicant.conf but he didn't .. he tried something else tht didn't make much sense to me [14:36] yeah but connecting via mibbit is a nice option to have .. from work, etc. if stuck [14:36] but *freenode* banned mibbit actually, it had been used for some attack afaict (not freenode actually, a shared list of bad hosts) [14:36] ohh [14:37] will my wpa_supplicant.conf help ? [14:37] yeah, my school blocks irc [14:37] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Camarade_Tux: ours did as well back in the day. We had to telnet to the CS building to irc from there ... [14:38] boxxertrumps (n=1TrumpaR@unaffiliated/boxxertrumps) joined ##slackware. [14:38] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75804.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] but that was 10+ years ago :\ [14:38] greetings [14:38] Most schools these days block irc. [14:38] Most of the time, it's due to Windows viruses, oddly enough. [14:38] Not my highschool, apperently [14:39] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Client Quit [14:39] we don't block IRC.... unless you're not me, of course :) [14:39] StevenR: abuse of power! ;) [14:39] stef_204, [14:39] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [14:39] good job, steve. [14:39] night slackytude :) [14:39] StevenR, I like your eglitarian style [14:39] Camarade_Tux, heh, good night to you [14:39] does anyone know a good application for timesheets? [14:39] I'd like my school to unblock freenode, gimpnet and oftc =/ [14:40] but they allow DALnet? [14:40] etc [14:40] BP{k}: pffft [14:40] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:40] Camarade_Tux: there's always logging into you computer at home and reattaching an instance of irssi [14:40] StevenR++ [14:40] or something [14:40] slackytude: my rules. Look, watch it work. Notice the way the network continues to work? [14:41] Action: StevenR PASTA & [14:41] There's pasta in the background? [14:41] StevenR, I hear you. more power to network admins, y0! I can haz IRC now, plz [14:42] acidchild, no, everything is blocked, I'd like a whitelist [14:42] ah [14:42] boxxertrumps, I don't have any computer available for that task (although I could actually have one) [14:42] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.210.249) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120121]" [14:43] most of the students here are either dumb as a starfish or aren't nerdy enough for IRC... [14:43] testing_mibbit (i=500dd9e9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d50b0b9ab05ed48a) joined ##slackware. [14:43] testing_mibbit (i=500dd9e9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d50b0b9ab05ed48a) left ##slackware. [14:43] Camarade_Tux: it doesn't have to be your computer :P [14:43] i have a couple shell accounts on my freinds servers [14:43] seems freenode unblocked mibbit [14:44] friends'* [14:44] dusty__ (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:44] testing_alienBOB (i=471e860f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e85e13e71ed98b7) joined ##slackware. [14:44] a friend of mine could give me something for sure but I don't feel like asking, I'm not going to die [14:44] doh ! [14:44] testing_alienBOB (i=471e860f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4e85e13e71ed98b7) left irc: Client Quit [14:45] alienBOB: <3 [14:46] :/ kubuntu has different sudo passes for each user, doesnt it... [14:46] boxxertrumps, this is not #kubuntu :) [14:46] DeeeeP: i'm complaining, not asking for help... [14:47] wrong channel for complains anway :) [14:47] Action: boxxertrumps joins #complaints [14:47] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:47] boxxertrumps: All distros should have different sudo passwords for each user. [14:47] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] firebird619 (i=jeremy@173-18-59-23.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] he, new gnash released, time to test :) [14:48] jkwood: so it's unique for each sudoer, sad times [14:49] boxxertrumps: Your sudo password is your regular password. [14:49] oh, this is good news then. [14:49] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] dusty__ (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] So, unless your real password is the same as another person... [14:49] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [14:50] jkwood: yeah, my freind gave me his sudo pass, i assumed that pass was the one for the root account [14:50] Now, if you want one password for "sudoing" you could always set up a special user that people can su to, and use that... but that would just be silly. [14:50] so i just need to find his username then i'm gold [14:50] yeah, that would be annoying [14:51] ... I'm not sure I should continue helping you. [14:52] well, when he set up the shell account he didn't give it a home directory, he's pretty new to linux in general [14:52] and he gave me what he though was the admin pass... [14:52] jkwood: hey hey hey =] [14:53] eh, its more difficult to setup a new user without a home dir [14:53] acidchild: Ahoy! [14:53] slackytude: how? [14:53] slackytude: he just went "useradd ryan" [14:53] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:53] jkwood: how goes? [14:54] There are ups and downs, nothing I can't handle. You? [14:54] wondering how to write my resignation letter without comming accross as a jerk [14:54] at any rate, thanks jkwood, big help [14:55] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:55] acidchild, I dunno, most newbies I know will fire up kuser or some gui thingy which does everything instead of console [14:55] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.63.224) joined ##slackware. [14:56] boxxertrumps: You're welcome. [14:56] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [14:57] acidchild: "dear $boss, you don't pay me enough for this shit .. kthxbai" ? ;) [14:57] acidchild: Don't use the words "suck", "blow", or "harmonize", and you should do just fine. [14:57] also include some form of cake [14:58] _not_ fruitcake though, that could be veiwed as some sort of insult [14:59] the other day i mentioned krdc crashing. turns out it was a NIC going flakey on the server side. [15:01] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] she_zzz_ (n=jazze17@adsl-10-113-202.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-209-186.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [15:02] hmmm, too bad for gnash I don't have boost [15:03] how do I can control the mouse pointer with the keyboard cursor in X11? [15:03] Very carefully. [15:04] mmm... [15:04] Camarade_Tux, its on sbo [15:05] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:05] heh, building boost just for flash is very fail [15:05] http://orcorc.blogspot.com/2009/03/oh-my-goodness.html [15:05] Indeed. [15:05] what's flash boost ? :o [15:05] s/flash/bad\ flash/ [15:06] I think that there is a key combination to control the mouse pointer with the keyboard, but I have done it before just by casuality [15:06] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [15:06] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [15:07] slackytude, I'm actually running slamd64 now [15:07] oy [15:07] Camarade_Tux: I don't have boost up there? Well, we need to fix that. [15:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:07] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] :( [15:08] Actually... which version of Slamd64? [15:08] jkwood, I have the git and can't see it [15:09] zylle86 (i=c8a411b2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3b8263e504d4c07e) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [15:09] Oh, I know why. It's included in testing/, and I haven't gotten around to putting any of that up. [15:10] http://mirrors.vbi.vt.edu/mirrors/linux/slamd64/slamd64-current/testing/packages/kde4/deps/boost-1_36_0-x86_64_slamd64-1.tgz will work if you have 12.2 [15:11] The source stuff is also available if you'd rather use that. [15:11] tino27 (n=tnoe@147.185.160.40) joined ##slackware. [15:12] I'll get boost up eventually, but right now I'm working on qt 4.5, which is going to take a lot of time. [15:12] jkwood, get a faster computer [15:12] that is an order [15:12] and stop posting slamd64 link in ##slackware [15:12] benone (n=seckt0r@196.29.200.6) joined ##slackware. [15:13] edman007 tossing around the smackdown [15:13] boom! [15:13] Action: edman007 high fives eviljames [15:13] Action: eviljames posts slamd64 links [15:13] muahahahahaha! [15:14] benone (n=seckt0r@196.29.200.6) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:14] nooo [15:16] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. 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[15:25] boxxertrumps (n=1TrumpaR@unaffiliated/boxxertrumps) left ##slackware. [15:25] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:25] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:25] janemba kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: No, suck this. ##slackware != ##slackware_derivatives [15:26] nice ban messae [15:26] message even [15:26] yea [15:26] lol...what did he get kicked for? [15:26] Action: edman007 has not seen people get kicked for just being offtopic, must be something more [15:27] i assume attempting to discuss $slackware_derivatives [15:27] Id bet on insulting an oper [15:27] or was he just particularly persistent? [15:27] He was very persistent, IIRC. [15:27] probably going on how ##slackware sucks for not wanting to give help on backtrack etc [15:28] That will soon be history anyway now that backtrack no longer uses Slackware as a base [15:28] oh? [15:28] othermindszine (n=othermin@45.sub-70-192-124.myvzw.com) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [15:29] i expect the news to be slow to propagate [15:29] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [15:29] othermindszine (n=othermin@45.sub-70-192-124.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [15:29] BackTrack 4 Beta was released on February 11, 2009, with the biggest change being the move to a Debian-based distribution [15:30] a debian-based distribution ? ubuntu ? :D [15:30] Of course. Much friendlier to Windows script-kiddies [15:30] he, good point ;-) [15:31] Action: Camarade_Tux is still waiting for gnash to compile [15:31] \o/ [15:31] Camarade_Tux, takes 10 minutes on my cmoputer.... [15:31] Camarade_Tux: "Now based on Debian core packages and utilizing the Ubuntu software repositories," [15:31] edman007, took 15 to 20 minutes (laptop) [15:32] You know the ironic part? Backtrack was only based off Slackware by proxy. [15:32] They actually ripped off Slax, because it's so easy to customize. [15:32] BP{k}, I think they won't crack many things with such buggy packages >< [15:32] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:33] I don't know what they're looking to gain by the move... Ubuntu is slow to put new stuff out. [15:33] Camarade_Tux, no, they are just making the net a better place, the script kiddies are now as vulnerable as the boxes they are attacking [15:33] Tomas at least bases each release of Slax off -current. [15:33] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Action: Camarade_Tux will have to spend more time getting gnash to work, but not today [15:35] gnash always works! [15:35] and its gotten a lot better :) [15:36] it could also be ubuntu advertising everywhere [15:36] SLAX is OK - it fills an actual niche (Slackware does not offer a livecd). Backtrack is conceptually OK, except for the blatant rape of Slackware (changing it's inner workings so that it was not running as a Slackware-alike linux) yet pointing all newbies and bug reporters to ##slackware [15:36] or that they actually only used sla* because they could change it really easily, but now that ubuntu has a livecd creator... [15:37] j0z (n=JESUS@201-89-78-199.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:37] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Network is unreachable [15:37] jkwood, I acknowledge it could be *my* fault as a builder (actually I believe it is likely to be) [15:38] alienBOB: If you want something neat to show off, use the Slax Builder to create a KDE 4 Slax cd. It's really neat how low-powered a machine you can run it on. [15:38] alife (n=alife@216.159.13.110) joined ##slackware. [15:38] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] True, Slackware is even faster... but Slax has always amazed me with its speed. [15:38] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201009121121.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:39] question, if i have a big tarball of changes that i make to a stock install, along with a script that makes all the changes, what's the best way to get that on an iso with slack? [15:39] K3B, I'd imagine. [15:40] alife, I guess you want it to be auto-installed, right ? [15:40] :P should have seen that coming [15:40] Camarade_Tux, aye, sorry, im looking to have it run that script after the packages are done installing in the installation [15:40] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [15:41] jkwood: I prefer not to look at the SLAX builder because I plan on writing a livecd builder script for Slackware and like it to be as original as possible [15:42] Action: Camarade_Tux did write a livecd builder too, livecds are too trendy nowadays ;p [15:42] alienBOB: awesome :) [15:42] alife, the idea I had was to put it as a slackware package in y/, or create a new series if you don't install y/ [15:43] barkink (n=barkink@88.247.222.151) joined ##slackware. [15:43] alienBOB: Oh, I'm not talking about the Linux Live scripts. I was referring to http://www.slax.org/build.php [15:43] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008255224.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:43] I highly doubt you'll get any ideas from that. [15:43] Camarade_Tux, ahrm, it would need to be in the form of a slackpkg then camarade? [15:44] alife, yes [15:44] It lets you build a csutom version of Slax in your web browser using their modules, then download the iso. [15:44] my kernel doesnt see my freebsd partitions, which is the 2.6.17.13 [15:44] anyone can help_ [15:45] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:46] alife, what about using a pen disk with tarball in it, and a install.sh script ? [15:47] barkink: How are you trying to "see" the partitions? [15:48] dmesg|grep -i bsd [15:48] DeeeeP, thats what i have been doing ;) however, it was rather tedious to do for my 30 computer lab test this year, and i was just recently approved for 140 new computers next year, methinks id rather have a single iso :) [15:48] tribeca (n=naitso@host178-240-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [15:48] jkwood: and i get "hdc2: " [15:48] barkink, but you can't mount them ? [15:48] barkink: What does "fdisk -l" show you? [15:49] alife, i think u can open slackware iso , and include that tarballs , and remake the iso [15:49] DeeeeP, right, just looking for something automatic like what Camarade_Tux said, checking out how to build it into a package right now [15:49] jkwood: /dev/hdc2 2550 19457 135813510 a5 FreeBSD [15:50] Well, that's at least one partition. [15:50] I once found how to add/remove series to the slackware install cd but couldn't find it again btw, anyone know how to do that ? [15:50] Camarade_Tux, that's the same problem i was having actually, once upon a time i knew :) [15:51] jkwood: but i get this error "barkink@ortam:~$ sudo mount -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs /dev/hdc2 /mnt/tmp/ [15:51] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc2, [15:51] missing codepage or other error [15:51] Channel flood from barkink -- kicking [15:51] In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try [15:51] dmesg | tail or so" [15:51] barkink kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:51] barkink (n=barkink@88.247.222.151) joined ##slackware. [15:51] can ufs be fsck'd ? [15:51] barkink: you might be better off using a pastebin :) [15:51] v3gard : yea i can see that :) [15:52] barkink: Do you have the ufs driver in your kernel? [15:52] i can see ufs from /proc/filesystems [15:52] hmmm, ccache expert in da house? does it cause a cache miss if the compiler's CLI options changed, but in such a way as to not affect a given source file? [15:52] isn't ufs badly supported in kernel ? [15:53] Urchlay, yes [15:53] (afaik) [15:53] e.g. -DFOO=1, where some files don't reference FOO at all [15:53] crap [15:54] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:54] every single compiler command in this giant build has -DINI_PATH=/etc, but only about 2 files actually use the INI_PATH define. so if I need to change it, everything has to get recompiled, kinda defeats purpose of using ccache :( [15:55] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:56] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-150-81.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[16:01] jkwood : thanks anyway [16:02] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:03] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [16:05] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-62-78.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:05] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.233.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] Nick change: moha_ -> mohaa [16:05] I'm unable to get KDE into proper screensize "1680x1050" and I think it is because xorg is not using config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf (The reason I think that is that it does the same thing whether the file is there are not.) So, [my question is] how can I get xorg to use config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [16:05] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Or; How can I force the X server to use the configuration file xorg.conf ? [16:06] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:07] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-75-184.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:07] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:07] cap, default , it load /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:07] Or, if that's not the problem, what the heck could it be? [16:08] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) joined ##slackware. [16:08] cap, u can force that resolution with modlines [16:08] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:08] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:08] modelines * [16:08] DeeeeP: I have tried using modelines [16:08] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] cap, is it proper configured ? [16:09] DeeeeP: I don't know. [16:09] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:09] cap, wanna help ? [16:09] DeeeeP: Yes. [16:09] tell me refresh rate you want [16:10] just a sec.... let me check. [16:10] JerrySabor (n=mrsabor@63-149-142-34.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "[BX] Connection reset by panasync?" [16:12] It's a 21.5" widescreen LCD monitor. HG216D [16:12] I want a 120hz monitor [16:12] straterra: you probably have one, if you drop the resolution down low enough... [16:13] http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pi/25-1151577/Monitors/Hanns.G-HG216D-Silver-Product-Info [16:13] Urchlay: no [16:13] I found my 21" CRT would do 640x480, 100Hz [16:13] LuckyFist (n=LuckyFis@unaffiliated/luckyfist) joined ##slackware. [16:14] I have a 17" LCD [16:14] Stole it from work [16:14] cap, just tell me the max refresh for that resolution [16:14] nice job you've got [16:14] Why's that? [16:14] cap: i had the same problem, i just ran xorgsetup [16:14] everywhere I ever worked, they'd catch me I tried that :( [16:16] 60Hz [16:16] ok [16:16] madbear: Ok, thanks. [16:16] Modeline "1680x1050" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync [16:16] add this line to your xorg.conf section monitor [16:17] DeeeeP: let him try xorgsetup first [16:17] ok ,try [16:17] it fixed alot for my monitor [16:17] ok [16:17] Urchlay: that's why you need to invest in a fake mustache and some black-rimmed glasses [16:17] hm, the fake mustache might get in the way of my real one [16:18] long trenchcoat too if you happen to find one. great, you save money by using your real mustache [16:18] put it on the bottom lip [16:18] heh, and I wear a long trenchcoat all the time (or anyway when it's cold enough) [16:18] jesus it boggles the mind how your not able to steal a display from work :P [16:18] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [16:18] i could grab as many monitors i wanted at this place i worked at [16:19] BRB, (going to restart X) [16:19] most crt tho [16:19] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [16:19] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:19] well right now I work from home. I guess I could steal from myself, but it's sorta pointless... [16:19] fabricio` (n=fabricio@mailhost.techmaster.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:19] hahah. hey are you still consulting? [16:19] Urchlay: no its not, insurance? :P:P:P [16:19] yeah [16:19] just move it somewhere and pretend it's been stolen [16:20] Urchlay: so no further thought to teaching phys. ed., eh? [16:20] eh? you got me confused with someone else maybe? [16:20] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [16:21] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [16:21] oh, you don't remember that we were joking about teaching. you said, "i suppose, but i'm overweight, too" [16:21] |rizitis-| (n=kvirc@athedsl-4560821.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:21] :D [16:21] heh. I don't remember that, but it's true :) [16:21] how do I identify which drive is on a SATA channel? [16:22] Still the same, I'm at 1024x768 and do not have any options for widescreen, such as 1680x1050 [16:22] Will try xorgconf [16:22] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [16:22] cap: what card have you got? [16:23] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "tchau meninas" [16:23] the one piece of useful info I have for you: if you've got an nvidia card, you may have to run the proprietary driver to get 1680x1050 (last time I tried it, I had to) [16:23] cap, when u ready to do what i think it will work , let me know [16:23] Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [16:23] ah, that I know nothing about. Carry on... [16:24] DeeeeP: I tried modeline you gave me. [16:24] i didnt finish [16:24] cap: what driver were you trying to use? [16:24] cap , that line is on section monitor ? 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[16:28] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.0.230) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:29] cap, replace this with your xorg.conf [16:29] cap, http://pastebin.ca/1352981 [16:29] try it [16:29] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [16:30] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [16:30] ewww. 16bit [16:30] :P [16:30] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4560821.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:30] its enough [16:30] :) [16:30] Hi all [16:30] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4560821.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware ("ta leme"). [16:31] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*200.hsd1.il.comcast.net expired. [16:31] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*200.hsd1.il.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:31] I have an old T20 and I wanted to get to know Linux better, so I put slack on it [16:31] First time I have used Linux.. but it was quite painless (and even supports my wlan card straight out of the box!) [16:31] people can actually see the difference between 16-bit and 32-bit color? [16:32] i've read somewhere that between 24 and 32 u wont notice [16:32] i can.... desktop background is usually my reference, though [16:32] that 8 bits is some kind of effect [16:32] well unless you're using the extra 8 bits for transparency/alpha, they don't do anything anyway [16:33] yeah [16:33] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:34] brixton: Good to hear. =) [16:34] hm. Can anyone recommend an OCR package that can deal with really *really* crappy scanned documents? [16:35] gocr's not cutting it... [16:35] :-) [16:35] I obviously walked in on a conversation hehe [16:35] tesseract still only handle one line strips of text? [16:35] Tournevyks (n=root@AFontenayssB-151-1-47-165.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:36] Hi. Just installed Slack, and I can't change screen's resolution. I've tried to edit xorg.conf, it does'nt work. [16:37] restarting x server... [16:37] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [16:37] I restarted it [16:38] I've tried to change screen's resolution by GUI, but it allows me to chose 1024*768 max [16:38] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:38] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [16:38] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Tournevyks: you are probably running the default X configuration which uses a VESA driver. [16:39] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-75-184.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:39] cap, so ... ? [16:39] That will never give you a higher resolution than your console offers [16:39] Same thing. I say again; It does not seem to matter what xorg.conf file I use, it makes no difference. I can delete the xorg.conf file and it does the same. [16:39] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] cap, might be xorg driver limitation [16:39] Tournevyks: run xorgconfig or xorgsetup and make sure to start using a X driver specific to your graphics card [16:39] So, my question is; How can I get xorg to use the xorg.conf file? [16:40] what is the best remote desktop prog? [16:40] alienBOB: dmesg | grep -i vga doesn't give anythink... normal ? [16:40] cap the /var/log/X.Org*log files will show you what's wrong [16:40] me_ (n=me_@89.242.121.102) joined ##slackware. [16:40] DeeeeP: I'm running Slackware 12.2 and xorg-server-1.4.2 [16:40] cap, X -config file [16:41] Tournevyks: drop to the console (quit X) and run xorgsetup. That usually defects your card automatically [16:41] hm. Apparently tesseract works a lot better now than it used to... [16:41] Thanks alienBOB [16:42] alienBOB: log file: http://pastebin.ca/1352987 [16:42] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:42] cap I did not offer to _look_ at your logfile :-) No time at the moment for troubleshooting [16:42] DeeeeP: Should that go into a config file? [16:43] I only have default runlevel set to 4 [16:43] i think u can run that command on runlevel 3 [16:43] DeeeeP: Ok, I will try. [16:43] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [16:43] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [16:45] Tournevyks (n=root@AFontenayssB-151-1-47-165.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:46] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [16:46] me_ (n=me_@89.242.121.102) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:46] That worked. X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:46] nice then [16:47] DeeeeP: Thanks a lot. [16:47] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [16:47] no prob :) [16:47] I will have to remember that. [16:47] cap, if u want runlevel 4 default , just add that line to /etc/rc.d/rc.local :) [16:47] no, not rc.local; change it in /etc/inittab [16:48] I just went to runlevel 3 and gave command X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf It showed me an X in the middle of the screen, I went back to tty6 and Ctrl-C and then telinit 4 and ... done. [16:48] KDE shows display settings 1680x1050 Refresh rate 60Hz [16:49] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:49] ricardo (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) joined ##slackware. [16:49] perfection is in simplicity [16:49] I hope it will retain settings after next reboot. [16:49] me_ (n=me_@89.242.121.102) joined ##slackware. [16:49] Not gonna try it now.. have other things to do. [16:49] But thanks all... :) [16:49] be (n=chattr@062016130030.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:49] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] I don't need to reboot all that often, and I have 4 computers on this monitor / keyboard etc... via KVM [16:51] 2 for the XYL and one for me. [16:51] strankan` (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Client Quit [16:52] and one server. [16:53] ANyway, tnx agn. [16:53] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [16:54] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:55] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] alife (n=alife@216.159.13.110) left irc: "Leaving" [16:57] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-156-25.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:02] ricardo (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] me_ (n=me_@89.242.121.102) left irc: "me_em" [17:05] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:05] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [17:06] hm. Actually tesseract is frigging amazing compared to what I was getting out of gocr... [17:07] nullboy (n=nullboy@97-94-110-129.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:07] |rizitis-| (n=kvirc@athedsl-4560821.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:08] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:11] i know its not slackware related but can anyone suggest me a nice platform game?.. I need to chill a bit. Im getting Capitan S.. any other ideas? [17:11] "platform" game? [17:11] zscott (n=zscott@pool-71-169-146-118.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] SuperTux or World of Padman would both be good. [17:12] aperturefever, i just tryed world of goo , few days ago , nice game [17:12] its puzzle [17:12] DeeeeP: i finished it :/ [17:12] oh [17:12] hmm wop is a nice idea [17:14] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [17:15] install zsnes, get Super Mario World ROM :) [17:16] brixton- (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [17:16] oh even better:D saves disk space [17:16] Secret Maryo Chronicles looks good, though I haven't tried it yet. [17:16] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-60-141.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:16] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:17] jkwood: i think it has lots of dependancies [17:17] j0z (n=JESUS@201-89-78-199.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:17] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-58-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [17:18] Action: jkwood checks [17:18] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE6F0F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [17:18] I'm pretty sure that was on my list of "easy to port to Slamd64" stuff. [17:18] Oh, nevemind. [17:18] I was wrong. [17:19] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:19] does anyone use subversion to save their work? [17:19] seems like I cant use 'svn ci' it complains about setting EDITOR. Ive already set that [17:19] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:19] have you set SVN_EDITOR? [17:19] Ive even set SVN_EDITOR, VISUAL, etc [17:20] and . ~/.bashrc to set it [17:20] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:20] so you type env, and it appears, right? [17:20] zscott (n=zscott@pool-71-169-146-118.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) left ##slackware. [17:20] yes [17:20] I type set [17:20] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-14-80.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:20] you sure you exported the variable(s)? [17:20] export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi [17:21] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] wait, env doesnt show it [17:21] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75804.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:21] i use SVN_EDITOR=emacs, if that helps [17:21] or else... 2 lines: "EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi" and "export EDITOR" [17:21] Rodrigo_Lopes (n=wiegraf7@201-92-231-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:21] whats difference between env and set? [17:21] good evening for everbody [17:21] env shows you the environment variables [17:21] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:21] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:22] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:22] set shows all shell variables, and env only shows the ones in the environment (in other words, ones that'll be "inherited" by spawned processes) [17:22] anyway I exported it and svn still complains [17:22] in order to load you .bashrc, you should do "source .bashrc" [17:22] he did [17:22] "." is a synonym for "source" [17:22] '. ~/.bashrc' is same [17:22] he said it didn't appear [17:22] any chance, to create a mame or mess package???? [17:22] env doesnt show it, while set does,.. [17:23] Rodrigo_Lopes: go look at slackbuilds.org, type "mame" in the handy little search box? [17:23] crazy idea, maybe you should put SVN_EDITOR in your .profile or /etc/profile [17:24] what's there is advancemame, which never got updated past version 0.106 [17:24] nille_ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:24] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:25] I'm currently doing up a slackbuild for sdlmame, if you want to wait a while :) [17:25] sorry but slackbuild, has only advancedmame 106, very old... [17:25] yeah [17:26] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net expired. [17:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:26] moha__ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-2-104.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:26] i play, mame, in my home directory, but, I want install in the system... [17:26] well it takes me a few hours to compile sdlmame on my crappy old box... hopefully I don't have to change anything in the SlackBuild script [17:26] eh, copy it to /usr/local/bin then? [17:27] othermindszine (n=othermin@45.sub-70-192-124.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:27] s/\/local// :) [17:28] naw, I wouldn't want anything in /usr/bin that couldn't be removed with removepkg [17:28] its a good idea.. but, after, need. configure, directories..and, many things...... [17:28] Rodrigo_Lopes: what are you using, sdlmame? [17:28] yes, sdlmame, and sdlmess... [17:29] the two, work, fine.. in a directory, under home... [17:29] yeah. Those, by default, look in the current directory for roms and such [17:29] mkdir bin && mv $path_to_mame bin && makepkg -c ../r0x0r_pkg.tgz [17:29] ;p [17:29] doh, forgot to install it :p [17:29] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [17:29] othermindszine (n=othermin@177.sub-75-216-93.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [17:30] you can recompile with -DINI_PATH=/etc or something, to make it look for /etc/mame.ini, and then in there you can define system-wide directories for ROMs, CHDs, etc. [17:30] but, I want, install... in same rules of FHS, file hierarch system... [17:30] ...or you can wait a while, because I'm already in the middle of doing that :) [17:30] no problem... [17:30] :) [17:31] Action: Camarade_Tux knew he had seen '-DINI_PATH=/etc' a few moments ago ;p [17:31] well, what does the FHS say about emulator ROMs? I'm going with /usr/share/games/mame/roms, but I didn't actually read the FHS... [17:32] Camarade_Tux: yeah. My first compile is *still* going... if I have to recompile, I hope ccache does its job [17:32] its a interesting, talk..... [17:32] Urchlay: check some of the others - there's one other ting with roms in it, but I don't recall what. I think I approved it, whatever it is [17:32] I read ever fhs rules..... [17:33] Action: Camarade_Tux hands Urchlay a^Wtwo^W^six beers [17:33] if you want roms for any simply user the, /home/user/roms [17:33] but, for everthing [17:33] rworkman: advancemame uses /usr/share/advance/rom [17:33] /usr/share/emulator/roms [17:33] That's not the one I'm thinking of [17:33] but it wasn't approved by you [17:34] so must be something else... [17:34] Damn, afk :/ [17:34] zsnes? [17:34] tuxnes? [17:34] don't think zsnes has a system-wide rom directory [17:34] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] nope, it doesn't [17:34] mednafen? [17:35] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:35] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:35] but... zsnes... its a perfect, installl..... the problem.. is a mame, and mess.. [17:35] apparently not... [17:35] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:35] Nick change: []cipher -> [cipher] [17:35] hm, maybe vice [17:35] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-156-25.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:35] tr0nd (n=mathias@h200n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [17:36] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-33-193.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:36] mednafen is good.. xe to http://www.xe-emulator.com/ [17:36] mame and mess work perfect, but dont fit in package management.. [17:37] well bugger. I can't think of an emulator I actually use that defines a systemwide ROM directory, except for Atari800... and there's no SBo package of that (I'm putting off making one until the next release version...) [17:37] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [17:38] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:39] eh. I wonder if he's talking about my hatari and hatari-tos-roms packages... [17:39] slaxxin (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:39] I had forgot about those [17:39] mednafen, is good, xe to....but arcade mame, is very good, becaus is a open source project... but for install, is a problem.. [17:39] rworkman: is it hatari you're thinking of? [17:40] kannan (n=kannan@121.246.242.95) left irc: [17:40] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] Rodrigo_Lopes: to tell you the truth, I still run xmame 0.106 on my main gaming box. It runs all the games I care about and a few thousand I don't [17:41] is xmae a gameboy emulator or whatnot? [17:42] xmame is the old Linux port of MAME... emulates a couple thousand arcade machines [17:42] pupit1 (n=p@93.86.1.143) left irc: "Leaving." [17:43] unfortunately it hasn't been maintained in a few years now [17:43] ahh [17:43] tino27 (n=tnoe@147.185.160.40) left irc: "[BX] It's game over, man! game over!" [17:43] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:44] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] but I hardly ever play games made after about 1987, and most of those were emulated perfectly in really ancient mame versions [17:47] moha__ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-2-104.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [17:47] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [17:47] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [17:47] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:47] Action: aperturefever Earthworm Jim under zsnes *<:D [17:47] who is here? [17:47] Yes.. I think this.. installl xmame.. and play... .. [17:47] i think we need to start doing roll call [17:47] no one is doing their work [17:48] bleah, I haven't had any work to do in 3 days now... [17:48] aaah memories [17:48] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151076029.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:48] brixton- (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: "~" [17:49] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] heh, I can remember Krystal had a promo called the "Earthworm Jim Meal" back then [17:49] not one of their brighter ideas... [17:50] any reason why my sound in flash worked fine all day until now? it plays fine.. no lag.. but the sound stutters [17:50] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:51] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[18:20] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:22] blatz..on the blztx [18:23] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.18.16) joined ##slackware. [18:24] How to install mame in slackware??? [18:24] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:25] grab package , installpkg package.tgz [18:25] DeeeeP (i=0@bl4-205-73.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:26] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:26] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:28] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:31] Whats the best audio conversion utility? I'll need to convert mp3 and wma to ogg and ogg to mp3 [18:31] cli or gui, matters not to me [18:32] there's ffmpeg, but it is a little difficult to use. [18:32] You can try soundKonverter. [18:32] If you use KDE. [18:32] 4.2, is that an issue for it? [18:33] You won't be able to build it with the compat packages in slack, unfortunately. [18:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:33] And it isn't on SBo, either... [18:33] Hmm. [18:33] Won't build with the qt3 support packages? [18:33] IIRC, it won't work, but I haven't tried it. [18:34] is there special criteria for creating an SNMP key? or can it be any string of letters/numbers? [18:34] MrHales: I'm trying it now. [18:34] Okay, so qt's out. I saw something interesting on sourceforge, but of all things, it works in Windoze and with wine under Linux (most features) [18:34] Yep, it failed. [18:34] Thanks, NaCl [18:35] building against qt3-support in -current works fine here [18:35] Do I have to change the paths at all? [18:35] MrHales: you could try abcde: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/audio/abcde/ [18:35] and that's just ./configure --with-qt-dir=/path/to/qt3/support, right? [18:35] I didn't even need something like that [18:35] Thanks, chopp, I'll check on that one. [18:36] I'll try soundKonverter here, then abcde. Report findings on soundK [18:36] bb [18:36] Never mind, my SlackBuild (which I need to post) is broken. [18:37] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:39] important program kde-config not found [18:40] Mine just complains that it can't find qt [18:40] I've seen this error before. What can I do about it, because 4.2 seems not to have such a beast? [18:40] I hadn't gotten there, yet. qt check is much further down. This was in the first dozen lines of configure's output [18:41] Is there a kde4 version of kde-config I can just symlink to? [18:41] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.10) left irc: [18:41] found it. [18:41] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:42] Yeah, flailed at qt check... [18:43] I'll try with the qt-dir flag [18:43] kdebase-4.2.1 was just releasted today [18:43] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [18:44] i am sure kdelibs-4.2.1 must have too [18:44] MrHales: just tried it. didn't work. [18:45] Pig_Pen: packages will arrive in public shortly I hope. They have already been built but the new batch of updates to -current will have much more than just kde-4.2.1 [18:45] Pig_Pen: KDE 4.2.1 is released - not just the base & libs [18:45] Yeah, total fail [18:45] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:46] Hi [18:47] hello for everthing [18:47] abcde doesn't appear to be able to handle wma. Need something that does. [18:47] Yes...install xine.. ... [18:47] Unless, of course, and I haven't checked, amarok can play wma? [18:47] alienBOB will the new kde be compatible with 12.2? [18:48] nille_: if you compile it yourself ;) [18:48] version [18:48] ok fair enuff [18:48] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] k [18:48] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:48] kk [18:48] MrHales: it should, xine does just fine [18:48] yes [18:48] nille_: actually, I don't know, but compiling yourself is always a good option :) [18:49] It might take a few hours, but it will work. ;) [18:49] yes it is but kde with all deps? i rather not if it works. [18:49] Cool enough, then, for now. [18:50] yes.. it is a codecs..... [18:50] installl a codecs... [18:51] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer-codecs-all [18:51] nille_: I build kde4 against the deps on SBo....if that would be fine for you.....maybe I can do something :) [18:52] or since it's my laptop i might as well go current on it, but i have another laptop that needs 12.2 [18:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:00] Yeesh. You know, it'd have probably worked well for me to know I had SoX on my system. I should be able to do a find -exec and convert a whole tree in one swoop, yes? 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[19:20] http://pastebin.com/m1b95ef for all you married folks :D [19:21] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) joined ##slackware. [19:21] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:25] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [19:26] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [19:27] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-209-186.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:28] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [19:29] Out_Cold (n=out_cold@d75-154-114-249.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:30] is there a file that displays the quotes right after you log in? [19:32] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:36] yes [19:37] Out_Cold: fortune(6) [19:37] i couldn't find it with grep.. [19:37] ty [19:37] /etc/profile.d/bsd-games-login-fortune.sh:2:# Print a fortune cookie for interactive shells: [19:37] [19:37] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-139-138.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] wont a ~/.bashrc with the word fortune do it? [19:38] i have a guy's system here that i'm working on. the last wanna be he had working on this system didn't seem to notice that the PSU fan was non-functional [19:38] Pig_Pen: well that's fine but the stock system does it already [19:39] fried? [19:39] they wonder why the main disk failed, the PSU had been overheating and tripping the thermal fuse [19:39] well i was trying to grep the fortune its self Pig_Pen [19:39] Out_Cold: grep fortune /etc/* -r [19:40] i have not messed with fortune for a long time, but there are addons for it, and you can make your own once you find the file that contains all the fortune comments [19:40] duh.. i missed out on the flags.. [19:40] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [19:40] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:41] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:41] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [19:41] also /etc/motd ? [19:43] Akuma0n4 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:43] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [19:43] g'day [19:43] howdy [19:43] hi NyteOwl [19:44] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:45] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:45] anybody work in a repair shop? I just found a bunch of service manuals (vcr, tv, stereo) surplus to my needs? Mostly older stuff - going cheap :) [19:45] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:46] Action: NyteOwl is starting spring housecleaning early :) [19:46] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Nowruz_Zoroastrian.jpg here is a good wallpaper if you like ancient stone carvings [19:47] NyteOwl: and two-way radio stuff? [19:47] and/ any [19:47] Nick change: tpollard_ -> tpollard [19:47] Pig_Pen: There were only two radio service manuals and I need them both for gear I own :) [19:48] ok, i understand [19:48] what radios do you own NyteOwl? [19:50] Kenwood TS830S station, Yaesu FT575GXII, Tent-Tec Argonaut, Heath SB301/401 station, Eico 720 rig with Hallicrafters SX111 rcvr, HQ 145X receiver Yaesu 2 meter, both base (multimode) and mobile, Icon handi. a few other odds and ends [19:51] love the TS830S [19:51] yup [19:52] the yaseu is i love even better! [19:52] Currently the remote VFO has a glitch that is eluding me [19:52] but it's a real workhorse [19:52] software controlled? [19:52] this person went out and bought office 07 when they have still sealed office 03 right in the same box [19:52] rubberband syndrome>? [19:53] the Kenwood is a much better radio. Only advantage of the 757 is it's solid state and can run of 12v directly [19:53] nullboy: LOL [19:53] The 757GXII is CAT capable [19:53] 12v is nice when the power goes out for several days you can always use an automotive battery, and when camping [19:54] staimeer (n=staimeer@unaffiliated/staimeer) joined ##slackware. [19:55] i always prefer a 12v DC radio over a straight 120v AC [19:55] it's the rig I usually haul back adn forth to the cottage. I bought an inexbensive aluminum toolkit case fitted it with foam for transport. I have two PSU's and just elave one at the cottage along with a homemade tuner, a set of paddles and handmic. Then all I need to transport is the rig [19:56] you got it goin' on NyteOwl! [19:57] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:57] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) joined ##slackware. [19:57] i need a keyer & some paddles, trying to learn cw on an ancient j38 is just awful [19:57] :) [19:57] I learned on a cheap brass Radio SHack key :) [19:58] who do i complain to about man page errors? [19:58] actually I elarner it beforee that ona toy as a kid but that doesn't count really :) [19:58] ... complain? [19:58] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:58] the developers of the project [19:58] well comment about on [19:58] I'd imagine [19:58] the 757 has a built in keyer so I just need paddles for it. [19:58] i have a j38 that could be WW2 era, my uncle was a radio operator for the USN and for the union pacific railroad after that [19:59] ... _ _ _ ... [19:59] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [19:59] Out_Cold: normally that would be (as straterra pointed out) the upstream developpers (ie: for complaints/comments on say the bash man page .. you need to talk to the developpers of bash). [19:59] Out_Cold: unless it's something with how the manpages are packaged? [20:00] well no it's a typographical error in the fortune man page.. [20:00] one section is doubled over.. [20:00] i need the keyer, i want to be fully profecient with cw to use on CB radio channel 38 when all the wannabes are pileing up making one channel sound as bad as channel 19 in a truck sop [20:01] Pig_Pen: heh CW on CB is illegal here [20:01] Out_Cold: uhm .. where exactly? :) [20:01] hmm.. maybe it was my sys.. i don't see it now.. [20:02] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.155) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:02] i have one of those big radios that has been modded, i have some ham friends in town a chat with and other local CBers they want me to get the license but i dont care if i get one or not [20:03] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:03] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:03] BP{k}, man uses more on slackware? [20:03] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:03] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:03] Out_Cold: yes, but you can change that, by setting $PAGER in your shell startup files. [20:04] i'm used to less, and i think after using the up arrow, it reset it's self to look doubled over.. [20:04] Action: BP{k} prefers 'most' for a pager these days. [20:05] i don't think i've tried most [20:05] will now though ;) [20:06] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-116-196.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:08] bbiab [20:08] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [20:09] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:09] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:12] hackedmind (n=Dobbs@196.218.222.189) joined ##slackware. [20:12] Evenin'(or mornin' or afternoon dependin' where y'are),folks [20:12] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [20:12] Greetings, MLanden [20:12] Hey,NaCl [20:13] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:13] Everything is well and good in Slackware-land. [20:13] Although, clouds of breakedness are on the horizon... [20:14] knock on wood and may we learn from the knocks...:D [20:14] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) left irc: "Leaving" [20:14] keep an umbrella in the car [20:15] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:15] Umbrellas are no good against acid rain! [20:16] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.142) joined ##slackware. [20:16] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] staimeer (n=staimeer@unaffiliated/staimeer) left ##slackware ("Client Exiting"). [20:18] Akuma0n4 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] * BP{k} prefers 'most' for a pager these days. [20:20] less is far superior [20:20] wait [20:20] most? [20:20] less is less than more which is less than most [20:21] dionysian: obivously you have 1) no clue what is being said. 2) I said *prefer* not "this is a fact". [20:21] he can haz cheez burger [20:21] BP{k}: i thought you said "more" and you can still prefer things that are inferior [20:21] some people prefer windows :) [20:22] dionysian: so you can't read properly? ;) [20:22] no, no sir, i cannot. :( [20:22] dionysian: you used debian before, right? [20:23] yeah [20:23] and see people, this is the danger of using debian. You loose the ability to read. [20:23] ;) [20:23] no [20:23] that happened when i started using ubuntu [20:23] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:23] hmm point. [20:23] whoever worked on this system last also decided that using plastic wire nuts was a good way to make a hard drive power cable splitter [20:23] suddenly i had to learn how to completely ignore half of what's being said [20:24] you got married? [20:24] dionysian: absinthe should help with that. [20:24] because every page on how to do this or that on ubuntu started with "add this to sources.list" and then "here's how you add things to sources.list" [20:24] followed by "now install this package" and "here's how you install a package in ubuntu" [20:25] then it was "now run the program" and "you're done!" [20:25] it was pretty awesome. [20:25] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:25] Family (n=Family@208-168-245-228-dynamic.dsl.candw.ky) joined ##slackware. [20:26] it's pretty dumbed down [20:26] Hello! people [20:26] it's Linux, Fisher Price Edition [20:26] i just installed slackware 12.2 but it wont boot. how do i create a boot floppy [20:26] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Family: boot into linux and run... [20:27] rm -rf /* [20:27] ? [20:27] Family: you can do it from the install cd [20:27] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:27] it wont from the install cd (#1) [20:27] Family: you can actually boot from the cd and then fix whatever the problem is [20:27] acidchild: don't [20:27] Family: you can't. The kernel is too big to fit on a floppy. Either use a USB thumdrive to boot, or use the cd. [20:27] alienBOB: blahblah blah [20:28] OK [20:28] Ban time acidchild? You know the rules [20:28] i didnt know that about the floppy. [20:28] w/e [20:28] lol [20:28] Out_Cold (n=out_cold@d75-154-114-249.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:29] what's wrong with it that it won't boot? [20:29] Family: when you said: "it won't" (re the install cd), what exactly do you mean? [20:29] acidchild: not lol at all. Do not post harmful commands here without quotes or other kinds of escaping the command [20:30] i forgot about the kernel being too big to fit on a floppy (i blame ubuntu) [20:30] when i highlight reconfigure system it just jumps to anther option [20:30] Action: acidchild goes back to house hunting and House [20:31] Also. When you state, your system doesn't boot; Can you eleborate on that? [20:31] Family: is the system installed? [20:31] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) joined ##slackware. [20:32] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:32] yes it is installed and yes i have accessed the filesystem right now [20:32] i get a grub error 15 [20:32] oh [20:32] when i start the machine [20:33] that's weird [20:33] slackware installs lilo [20:33] unless you didn't install lilo to the mbr [20:33] i did [20:33] in which case it's easy to fix. Boot from the installation media [20:33] did that [20:33] thumbs: he's saying he can't boot from the installation media [20:34] define cannot [20:34] < Family> it wont from the install cd (#1) [20:34] So how _did_ you install then, Family [20:34] the install Cd boots but it wont allow me to choose the option reconfigure system [20:34] Family: define cannot boot [20:34] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.18.16) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:34] Family: this is not ubuntu [20:34] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:34] Family: no need to. You can simply chroot to your / partition, then re-run lilo [20:34] So, the CD does boot [20:35] lol@ubuntu [20:35] Read what is on the screen after the computer boots from the CD, Family [20:35] oh... alienBOB. i wanted to tell you of a little issue i had with your usb install [20:35] It's all there in front of you [20:35] it's a minor thing, that is easily fixed [20:35] hold on.... [20:36] but it will identify a windows partition on the usb stick and configure lilo with a windows install option [20:36] that will happen to be the first item selected at boot [20:37] I see HELP - KEYMAP-ADDSWAP-TARGET etc [20:38] hackedmind (n=Dobbs@196.218.222.189) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [20:38] dionysian: since the USB installer does not support being dumped on a Windows partition, it is nothing I am going to fix [20:38] Maybe in future, but not now [20:38] NyteOwl (i=nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Family: you are already too far [20:38] alienBOB: it's not really a problem with your installer [20:39] Read what is there _before_ you type anything [20:39] just an issue i had when i used it [20:39] where should i be alienBOB? [20:39] it's as much of a problem with the slackware installater assume that *any* fat partition is a bootable windows installation [20:39] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [20:40] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [20:40] Family: the first screen. the one with "boot:" at the bottom [20:40] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [20:40] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:40] Family: which kernel did you select? [20:41] if that happens just remove the erroneous entry from /etc/lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo dionysian [20:41] Pig_Pen: i did [20:41] aereinha (n=aereinha@76.84.191.84) joined ##slackware. [20:41] Read even _before_ you select a kernel to boot... [20:41] alienBOB: i was asking which kernel he selected to see if he read it [20:41] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.118.247) joined ##slackware. [20:42] if you don't know you probably selected hugesmp, you probably should go back and read more [20:42] on booting it says Grub loading stage1.5. Grub loading please wait error 15 [20:42] did he pick a kernel that requires the initrd? [20:42] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: Client Quit [20:43] Family: you are not booting from a Slackware CD if you se a grub message [20:43] Family: i thought you said you installed lilo to the mbr [20:43] thats the first error i get, now im going to the CD [20:44] the CD says in a pinch u can boot ur system from here, i chose hugesmp.s root [20:44] she_zzz_ (n=jazze17@adsl-10-113-202.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] Family: tell us _exactly_ what you typed there [20:45] "hugesmp.s root"? [20:45] there where? [20:46] Action: alienBOB is gone. Good luck [20:46] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:47] Action: Old_Fogie waves hello to the channel. [20:47] Family sounds lost and confused [20:47] Action: firebird619 waves to Old_Fogie [20:47] Action: MLanden nods to Old_Fogie's wave and responds back with a friendly YO! [20:47] :) [20:47] Family: what are you using to chat here? [20:47] Old_Fogie: wotchers. :) [20:48] hmmm, i think i will try to fix this myself, thanks guys [20:48] Good luck. You're gonna need it. [20:48] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:48] that sounds like an awesome idea. [20:48] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [20:48] i have been fixing problems even before i had dialup so i dont know what hit me to come here [20:49] Family: the thing is, you did something wrong at some point [20:49] Family (n=Family@208-168-245-228-dynamic.dsl.candw.ky) left irc: "Leaving" [20:49] we're just trying to figure out where it was you did something-ok bye [20:50] I think the answer to his last statement is "A severe lack of utter $clue" [20:50] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-44-50-73.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Action: Old_Fogie has an extra clue bat here if someone needs it [20:51] he did an excellent job of providing no useful information [20:51] lol [20:51] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:51] I am wondering though, if his idea of "fixing" includes reinstalling. [20:51] I hope he switches to another distro. [20:51] BP{k}: he didn't install the firs titme [20:51] *time [20:51] preferably ubuntu [20:51] my secound thought on this if he's actually running slackware or some derrative like bt3 [20:51] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [20:51] peacedog (n=peacedog@pool-72-86-13-250.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] bt3? [20:52] oh geez [20:52] "but it's based on slackware, right?" [20:52] dionysian: BT3 short for Backtrack 3, something which is remotely and distantly based on slackware, changed enough nott o resemble slackware in anyway. Yet its developpers love to point people here. [20:53] They're leeches. [20:53] nullboy: yes, heres my cluebat it's based on a twig ;) [20:53] isn't it also a livecd? [20:53] and we love to send them away [20:53] thumbs: indeed. :) [20:53] They take the work of others, then hand off their support to others. [20:53] thought Backtrack decided to follow the ubuntu trend down to its repositories(i.e. deb over tgz) [20:54] MLanden: yeah, from BT4 onwards. [20:54] what's also based on slackware, and pretty cool, is puppy linux [20:54] They'll still be leeches. [20:54] that's what I thought [20:54] dionysian: Puppy can't make up their mind, but they do a pretty good job of supporting their users. [20:55] i don't know about not making up their mind, because i only recently tried it [20:55] but i thought it was pretty sweet [20:55] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [20:55] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:55] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [20:56] dionysian, puppy is highly impressive. too bad about the whole 'run as root' thing. it'd be great if it didn't have that. [20:57] Old_Fogie: agreed. [20:57] "normal user account" is for kiddies... root all the time! [20:57] I'd go so far as to say, I would install it / use it on some pc's if it didn't have that. Makes a nice base for a thin client. [20:58] well, you're insulated from some of the dangers of running as root [20:58] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:59] what package contains the m4 app? [20:59] In my mind, a livecd as root makes sense. [21:00] i think ubuntu is more annoying, not even letting you set a root password during install [21:00] jkwood, well puppy is not just a live cd, it's a way to be a full desktop e.g pupinstall. save sessions, convert tgz to pup etc etc. save your work your sessions. so to that extent, it's retarded imo [21:00] any idea? [21:00] jkwood, I could see for an installer tho [21:00] v4nelle (n=van@adsl81-3.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:01] okibisan: grep usr/bin/m4 /var/log/packages/* [21:01] (or see http://packages.slackware.it for this) [21:01] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:01] yes... only i find no results anywhere [21:02] not in usr/bin... not in packages log... not on the site [21:02] michiel@hades:~$ grep usr/bin/m4 /var/log/packages/* [21:02] /var/log/packages/m4-1.4.12-i486-1:usr/bin/m4 [21:02] okibisan: did you do a full install? [21:02] i'm on a vps that had their own template [21:02] which i assume is a base install [21:02] base is not full [21:02] okibisan: vps by whom? (ie what company)? [21:02] i know... [21:03] vpsville.ca [21:03] you need d series it seems [21:03] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/slackware/d/m4-1.4.12-i486-1.tgz [21:03] why does the packages.slackware.it site not find it? [21:03] hmmm [21:04] usually those kind of installs are quite minimal. I know Linode's slackware-12.0 image is rather tiny [21:04] i don't know what .it has got going on over there but osuosl is legit [21:04] m4 is in m4? [21:04] my mind = blown [21:04] dionysian: you're far too new for that level of sarcasm yet [21:05] :/ [21:05] Hey, anyone know much about hardware, specifically lcd's for laptops? [21:05] i've changed many LCDs out of laptops [21:06] I've changed the lcd, backlight, inverter, video is good on the external screen, but, the lcd of the laptop is still blank/very faint. [21:07] I tried the dimmer buttons, obvious stuff. [21:07] thanks for the help... i couldn't remember where it was [21:09] peacedog: was the replacement LCD new or refurb/pull ? [21:10] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [21:10] nullboy: New lcd, new inverter, new backlight (came with lcd) [21:11] peacedog: were any of the LCD module cables tweaked or kinked during installation? [21:12] nullboy: No, the cables look goog from the hinge out. Could it be the cable itself, or the connection to the board? [21:12] *good [21:12] If you were to write a script that install's let's say 20 packages right, then another script to remove the packages. Would it be faster to remove the packages if you started the script by removing the _last_ install package first and proceeding in that order? Does pkgtool work that way, or no? Anybody know? [21:12] pins can get bent easily [21:13] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [21:13] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: Client Quit [21:13] MLanden: Is that for me? [21:13] Old_Fogie: you mean cleaning up the .tgz files? [21:14] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:14] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.250) joined ##slackware. [21:14] yes,peacedog...just suggesting pin can get easily bent...sometime the diodes or capacitors go bad as well..hopefully,not [21:14] dionysian, well, if I installed let's say (in this order) amarok, then pidgin then xchat. If I wrote a script to remove them 3 packages. Would pkgtool work faster removeing xchat then pidgin then amarok? Or does the remove order not make a difference as far as speed? [21:15] s/pin/pins [21:15] I'm inclined to say, the order you remove packages makes no diff but I'm not sure of that. [21:15] Old_Fogie: I doubt the remove order would make any difference [21:16] BP{k}, yes that's what I've been noticing here. ok ty [21:16] MLanden: If it were a bent pin or something like that would I still get a very dim/faint image? It's almost like it's not heating up or lighting up. [21:17] yeah... you're just deleting files, i don't think it would make a difference [21:17] dionysian, ok [21:17] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:18] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:18] peacedog: could be a possibilty [21:19] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:19] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [21:19] lownoize (n=lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:19] lownoize (n=lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de) joined ##slackware. [21:19] spook_ (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[21:22] peacedog (n=peacedog@pool-72-86-13-250.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Peace out ;-)"). [21:22] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:24] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] barkink (n=barkink@88.247.222.151) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [21:27] once i got a motherboard with a slightly bent ide connecter pin, when i went to plug in the ide cable it bent even worse, so i bend it back and just to be sure i removed the board from the case and touched up the pin where it connects to the board with a hot iron and a dab of soldier, you go messing with those pins much you might loosen the soldier joint on the board so be very careful with it [21:27] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [21:30] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:39] i wasn't in X [21:39] k [21:40] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] maybe open another shell with alt F2 (or is that ctrl F2?) and login and run top to see what locked up [21:41] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-116-196.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:41] othermindszine (n=othermin@166.sub-75-216-76.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [21:41] when i say froze, i mean the system was completely unresponsive [21:41] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.167.41.13) joined ##slackware. [21:41] i couldn't switch to another tty [21:42] darn the bad luck! dont you hate it when that happens [21:42] i think it happened when i plugged in the usb cable for my ipod [21:43] without the ipod connected to it, interestingly enough [21:43] i'm gonna try it again! [21:43] hmm, but it does not have a problem when the ipod is connected to the cable first? [21:43] it might have been unrelated [21:43] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] it didn't happen this time [21:44] once i seen X lock up when i plugged in a digital camera without moving the mouse first to awaken the monitor beforehand [21:45] who says linux doesn't BSOD? [21:45] nothing would fix it, ctrl alt backspace did nothing, i ended up pressing the reset button, [21:45] might be how Linux interacts with he +-5V on the usb cable when it plugs...conflict with Linux and the BIOS [21:45] s/he/the [21:46] dionysian: true i too have had _black_ screens of death :) [21:46] or damaged hardware [21:46] true,straterra [21:46] they should be made green since windows is blue :D [21:46] that was the only time it happened [21:46] or red [21:47] the xbox bsod is green [21:47] same here, it happened only once, (an anomoly?) [21:48] the more features gets packed in to Linux the more complicated it becomes so it is bound to get a few bugs, [21:48] seems to always be a sudden change in hardware that causes these for me [21:49] let me try the usb cable with no camera attached first, if i disappear you know what happened [21:49] good luck w/ that [21:49] no lockup, seems to be ok [21:50] even /var/log/messages did not show anything (no hardware on the other end of the cable) [21:51] with one of my computers a while back,after I change the CMOS battery..it cleared up [21:53] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:54] do any of you know what the quantizer setting is when encoding an xvid video? [21:56] Action: MLanden1 had to wiki on the subject of quantization [21:56] /1/1 [21:57] Hmm... That doesn't do anything. 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[22:08] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-237-227-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:12] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [22:15] Action: MLanden1 observing the moment of silence that has overtooken the room [22:16] Action: Urchlay farts loudly into the silence [22:16] cricket cricket [22:16] (sorry, couldn't resist) [22:16] all cool,urchlay [22:17] just wondering anyone here ever heard of CoreWars [22:17] heard of it [22:17] played it [22:17] ? [22:17] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] nah, just heard of it :) [22:17] I know it's been around forever in some form or another [22:17] been getting into it again after a couple of years [22:18] just now thought how good it would have been to have to help learn programming concepts [22:18] all I know about it really is that you & your opponent each try to write a program that attacks/overwrites the other guy's program [22:18] ya thats about it [22:19] Action: NyteOwl used to play that on a mainframe heh [22:19] and I think it has its own weird little VM with its own assembly language [22:19] lol [22:19] it really is that old :) [22:19] ya MARS [22:19] it was old when I first heard of it, when I was like 11 [22:20] been thinking about writing a redcode compiler (corewar assembly language) as a little project [22:21] what source language? [22:21] probly c [22:21] I don't know how corewars works... does it even make sense to use C? [22:22] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.165.82) joined ##slackware. [22:22] hmm like i said just been thinking about it but...... [22:22] maybe you should use perl [22:22] perl4, where damn near any garbage counts as executable code :) [22:22] the closest thing to perl i know is python [22:23] they call python executable pseudocode :) [22:23] you need fast clean code so assembly is pretty much a necessity [22:23] naw, I was joking, you don't want to write a compiler that parses perl's syntax (it's pretty hairy) [22:24] LISP is always goo :) [22:24] lisp is basically what, pdp-11 assembly with lots of parentheses? [22:24] (I kid, I kid...) [22:24] considering how abstract and small redcode is (at least the original) language doesnt even seem much of an obstacle to getting started [22:24] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:24] but any suggestions would be nice [22:25] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:25] rootlocal (n=rootloca@189.22.216.40) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:26] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:26] bono (i=bono@118-160-164-52.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@189-30-76-89.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:29] Hi all. [22:29] aereinha (n=aereinha@76.84.191.84) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:29] hi [22:30] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:30] ssshh...we're hunting wabbits [22:30] how come, whenever elmer fudd says that, he's carrying a gun that looks like it has a megaphone on the end? [22:30] ganeshix: hey [22:30] Action: twolf pulls out an ak-47 and opens fire on all the wabbits [22:30] I'm trying to share an iCal calendar for other workstations on my LAN, through httpd. [22:31] that gun was supposed to look like an old muzzle loader [22:31] it looks *loud*... like he might bag the first wabbit he sees, but all the other wabbits will hear it a mile away, and get the hell out of there [22:31] oh yeah it's duck season [22:32] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:32] I'm testing it by looking at the calendar on Konqueror. It looks good, but I can't edit the calendar from Konqueror. I know so little... I don't know if I'm doing things right... [22:32] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:33] hm, I ought to see if I can use a wiimote + mednafen to play NES duck hunt [22:33] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:33] not shaped like a gun, but it does have a nice trigger on bottom... [22:33] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:33] What is the Core 2 Duo equivalent processor from AMD for laptops? [22:33] When you're serving a file on Apache, are you able to interact (change) that file or do you need some additional settings? [22:34] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:34] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:34] Or it's just a matter of doing what i did, throwing the file into /var/www/htdocs? [22:34] what do you mean by interact/change? [22:35] you mean dynamic pages? 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[22:46] uh [22:47] mount it [22:47] how? [22:47] mercfate: can you show us what this outputs?: file namehere.img [22:47] man mount [22:47] google.com [22:47] /bin/mount [22:47] mount ???? [22:47] .img is just a dump of a floppy i dont think u can decompress it [22:48] i download a game [22:48] .img isnt necessarily a floppy [22:48] .rar files [22:48] and we dont support piracy [22:48] hmm funny [22:48] sorry [22:48] it could be damn near anything... [22:48] oh screw this [22:48] straterra: my [22:48] *bad [22:48] freenode has anti piracy rules [22:48] thats the only place ive seen em [22:48] run along now [22:48] you can't even figure out how to run a pirated copy [22:48] ... [22:48] where i said piracy? [22:48] what game? [22:48] lol [22:48] 'downloaded a game...rars' [22:49] diablo hellfire [22:49] Action: Urchlay hides his sword and pulls his pants leg down over the peg leg [22:49] piracy [22:49] what does this have to do with slackware? [22:49] Action: Old_Fogie says "That's why I run SGA (Slackware Genuine Advantage) so I don't have to worry about such things." [22:49] dionysian: thats what i was wondering [22:49] mercfate: google software piracy [22:49] omfg [22:49] omfg [22:49] thanks for help [22:49] np [22:49] bye [22:50] why are you asking how to run a windows game, in ##slackware, anyway? [22:50] not run [22:50] i dont ask about run windows game [22:50] decompress from a download [22:50] ah [22:50] that was multiple rars.. [22:50] i ask about decompress an .img [22:50] only this [22:50] so..either usenet or torrent [22:50] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:51] well a .img file isnt a compressed format, so... [22:51] im guessing usenet [22:51] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:51] it probably is some proprietary CD image format that only works with something that only runs on windows [22:51] again, man mount and google mount loopback [22:51] mercfate: again, show us the output of 'file': file image.img [22:51] besides that...no help [22:51] Urchlay: i bet its an iso9660 image [22:51] most are from pirates sites like that [22:51] ah [22:51] nullboy, tnx for answering... I'm thinking of this little calendar. I'm wondering if I can change it from Konqueror on a client... [22:51] in which case it be easy to mount. [22:52] file HELLFIRE.img [22:52] HELLFIRE.img: data [22:52] heh [22:52] yes..but still piracy :P [22:52] ... [22:52] mercfate: dcc it to me [22:52] zomgs [22:52] read the damn release notes for the download [22:52] well, I do like to drink rum sometimes, and plunder the occasional passing ship... is that so wrong? [22:52] kthnx [22:52] Action: ag3ntugly waits for "wtf is dcc" [22:53] lol [22:53] direct cooter connect [22:53] nullboy, I used to have this iCal calendar on a remote ftp server. I would connect directly through Korganizer. I just used it as if it was local; just some minor delay to save the changes, but basically the same. [22:53] mercfate: i'll give you a big hint but next time look in google [22:53] mercfate: mount file.img /mnt/iso/ -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 [22:53] that's all you get [22:53] awww [22:53] dont give em that [22:53] ganeshix: you want something a bit like office server(sorry forgot the name of it) ... [22:53] what can i say, couple beers and i'm feeling happy [22:53] surprised you told him that much [22:54] he caught me on an upswing [22:54] should have had him dd it to his hard drive [22:54] lol [22:54] itszomg self bootable! [22:54] boot the piracy kernel and play doomz [22:54] sorry..i have a fever haha [22:54] fever dreams are the best [22:54] ...and the only cure is... more cowbell? [22:54] fscking crazy dreams [22:55] kitche, I guess I was being naive... I'll google 'office server' [22:55] wait..i found a laying position that clears my nose [22:55] kickass [22:55] lol [22:56] i think someone indian-gave me the clap [22:56] mercfate: seriously, you should probably go someplace else [22:56] ganeshix: phpicalendar [22:56] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-66-52-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [22:56] take 8 floz of warm water and add a tablespoon of salt. dissolve. grab a turkey baster and suck up some of the solution. baste the inside of your nose. [22:57] how would you even find your way here for a solution to that problem? [22:57] um [22:57] Action: ag3ntugly scratches his head [22:57] ganeshix: http://www.afp548.com/articles/Jaguar/webcal.html took a few secodns to find it [22:57] nullboy, right after i grind my testicles in to powder [22:57] lol [22:57] it sounds bad but it's good [22:57] you can't really grind your testicles into powder [22:57] srsly guys. [22:57] you could mash em up real good [22:57] not when your nose is like raw hamburger [22:57] so im totally watchin this here watchmen motion comic movie animation thingy, since the movie dont come out till like later, and its awesome [22:58] i just wanted to share that with everyone [22:58] who's in PA ? [22:58] me! [22:58] its on itunes if anyone else cant wait a whole 'nuther day [22:58] kitche, it seems to be just what i was looking for. Thanks a lot!! [22:58] if pa is short for painful nose conjestion [22:58] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:00] twolf_ (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [23:01] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-66-52-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Action: ag3ntugly falls out of his chair [23:01] lol [23:01] google, the pirate maker [23:01] Ether_Man (i=DJ@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] works :D [23:01] im jack sparrow [23:01] dont laugh, im making fun of you, or are you too daft to catch on [23:02] why're you back? [23:02] cya! [23:02] be gone [23:02] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:02] Nick change: twolf_ -> twolf [23:02] this is going to end poorly [23:02] to buggy you [23:02] =* [23:02] cya [23:02] PIRATE! [23:02] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-66-52-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [23:02] omfg [23:02] what a douche bag [23:03] omg [23:03] ok... i guess i'm going to try setting up icecast and mpd to start up at boot [23:03] he buggied me [23:03] thats so..1800's [23:04] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@189-30-76-89.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:04] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-14-158-71.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:05] umm [23:05] demoncyber_: are you really that dense? [23:05] this is a nice little car [23:05] for a little car [23:06] dionsyian: looking out icecast now, does it need mpd? [23:06] demoncyber_: nevermind, i take back that pop shot [23:06] Hey, I remember that guy! We ran him off as a pirate a couple of months back. [23:06] nullboy: you thought he was mercfate :) [23:06] yar [23:06] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [23:06] kitche: i got owned [23:07] jkwood: apparently he is still too stupid to even learn how to use pirated software [23:07] what car's that,NyteOwl? [23:07] MLanden1: Mazda RX-8 [23:07] cool [23:08] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [23:08] ewww [23:08] rx8 [23:08] kill it! [23:08] I'd rather have an mx-5 [23:09] ewww ricer cars but then again I like a lancer [23:09] ricer? [23:10] mx-5 will take either the rotary (drop in) or the ford 5L (heavy mods) [23:10] how would i go about setting up mpd and icecast to run at boot? [23:10] dionysian : /etc/rc.d/rc.local [23:10] dionysian: /etc/rc.d/rc.local [23:10] you bastard [23:10] hehe [23:10] did anyone mention rc.local? [23:10] hashed_ (n=hashed_@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] lol [23:10] kitche, I have an eclipse [23:10] what's this rc.local thing i keep hearing about? [23:10] with the zomgsweet 4g69! [23:12] straterra: the older one of the newer one [23:12] newer [23:12] but the 4g69 is a carry over of the 4g63 (old evos/eclipses) with more steel and less cast iron [23:14] is there a way to add something to rc.local to be run as a regular user? [23:15] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:15] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [23:16] peterrx (n=decom@blk-103-242-124.eastlink.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:17] dionysian: if u need to run it for a _specific_ user putting it in ur xinitrc (if u even use X) [23:17] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:17] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:17] *put [23:18] i usually don't use x much [23:18] dionysian: setuid to said user? [23:18] ^should work [23:19] let's put it this way... i've got 11 ttys, and X goes to alt+F12 [23:19] i need to set that up too [23:19] nullboy: it's very easy [23:19] before i found screen i used a lot of physical ttys though [23:19] now i use screen [23:19] someone correct me if im wrong but could he put it in his bashrc [23:19] you could probably do "sudo nobody -c /bin/whatever" too [23:20] taquito: it will only be run when that user actually logs in then [23:20] or rather su [23:20] ya true [23:20] also it would be run every time i logged in [23:20] i thought u wanted in in rc.local anyway? [23:21] i'll look into setuid [23:23] heh insurance would be about $1200/yr [23:23] my insurance is insane [23:23] my current unsurnce is about $800 [23:24] per year? [23:24] yes [23:24] Medical or car? [23:24] i need to reimagine how i'm going to handle media on this box [23:24] mine is 1950/yr [23:24] car insurance [23:24] car [23:25] .... [23:25] my insurance is cheap but I m on my parents insurance it would probably be 800 or so if I had my own so it would be 1600 or so [23:25] two things at work for me, lunatic driving record + California [23:25] lol [23:25] i have a clean record..and indiana [23:25] giggity [23:25] lol [23:26] I only need liablility on my car but it has some others on it [23:26] I pay $2100 for Two cars, Life insurance and Home insurance. [23:26] Ether_Man (i=DJ@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: [23:26] agentc0re: all combine? [23:26] d [23:26] nullboy: Yup. [23:26] damn wtf [23:26] agentc0re: not in CA right? [23:26] Utah. [23:26] hmm [23:27] i want a turbo [23:27] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [23:28] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@166.196.218.228) joined ##slackware. [23:28] ok, mpd has a config option to change users [23:28] what's a good system wide place to stick mp3s and such [23:29] hashed_ (n=hashed_@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) left ##slackware. [23:29] dionysian: /storage [23:29] heh [23:30] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [23:30] dionsyian: depends what your partioning scheme is [23:30] this person got so lucky. they had a PSU that was intermittently failing for at least 3 months. the main disk only had boot sector corruption and all of the data is still accessible with no special tools [23:30] taquito: one big one [23:30] I feel i'm very lucky as far as the insurance world goes, because i don't pay anything for Medical since I'm a Vet. :D I recently had hip surgery about a year and a half ago and it only cost me $54. :) [23:30] then u could put them pretty much anywhere [23:30] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:30] taquito: yep. [23:30] they have a USB drive for backups..that has no backups. [23:30] just make sure all users can access them [23:31] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:31] taquito: i'm just trying to figure out the "most logical" place to put them [23:31] Greyhound- (n=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [23:31] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [23:31] i dunno about u but im the only person on my laptop so i just put them in my home directory [23:32] yeah, i'm the only one on this laptop, too [23:32] hi [23:32] just create a media dir in ur home [23:32] but i still have an aversion to putting the full path to a directory in my ~ in a config file in /etc [23:32] create more directories under that for pics vids music etc [23:33] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:33] why does Mozilla consider url spoofing a low vulnerabilty? ..... [23:34] then ya i would go with the person above me (cant remember) just put something in / [23:34] Action: nille_ bought a new external hdd and put ext3 on it and made an small fat partition for the windows drivers :) [23:35] how small,nille? [23:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:36] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] heh RX-8 as configure including taxes just shorth of $58K [23:37] fuck that [23:37] get an evo [23:37] well i doesn't need to be big at all but i made it 100mb so i can transfer some other stuff if i need to and can't install the driver [23:37] mmm..or an older 3000gt [23:37] vr-4 twin turbo... [23:37] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.142) left irc: "leaving" [23:38] or save $10K and get a Challenger SRT8 [23:38] ewww [23:38] hemi [23:38] good t'hear,nille [23:39] and domestic heaviness :P [23:39] yep [23:39] I prefer a substantial veicle with decent power and rear wheel drive [23:39] 3000gt has that [23:40] i have to have fwd or awd [23:40] I'd take AWD over FWD [23:41] depends [23:41] if im dragging..i dont [23:41] for winter driving/rally i would [23:41] im saving up cash for new internals for my motor [23:41] I don't care for FWD personally [23:42] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [23:43] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] hexoroid (n=hex@unaffiliated/hexoroid) joined ##slackware. [23:43] MLanden1 you could fit the drivers on an real small partition. from 1-5mb depending on what drivers you want to use. [23:44] esom_ (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [23:44] i know,nille_..thanks for the info [23:44] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:44] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:45] eeeGuita1man (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] eeeGuitarman (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:47] can anyone make out the company name on the side of this car? http://www.autotime.ru/girls/tuninggirls/mazda_rx-8/img/mazda_rx-8_25.jpg [23:47] ls [23:48] if(windows & ~slackware) printf("cool\n"); [23:48] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] NyteOwl it end witk racing :p [23:49] NyteOwl: I think it's Simoni Racing. [23:50] firebird619 could you realy read that from the picture? [23:50] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] it looks right [23:50] nille_: Yeah, and then I googled the name and found simoniracing.com and looked at photos on there and the name looks the same as NyteOwl's picture. [23:51] hmm I thought the first letter was G but maybe it's an S [23:51] firebird619 ##slackware PI [23:51] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] NyteOwl: Check out. http://www.simoniracing.com/us/girls.php?car_id=164 The name is the same. [23:52] nille_: :) [23:53] firebird619: that looks like the one - thanks! [23:53] NyteOwl: Your Welcome. [23:54] same logo damn that impressive [23:55] gonna call it a night..take care,folks....good luck [23:55] MLanden1 (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-219.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:57] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:59] Have any of you guys ever player Unreal Tournament in Linux? [00:00] --- Thu Mar 5 2009