[00:01] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [00:01] keeps reverting back to TERM=linux [00:05] okay. i moved terminalrc and created a new one. now i am recieving tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified [00:06] i have tput settings in my .bashrc [00:07] Confused which package to "uncomment" on editing mirrors for "slackpkg update". Should I select 1 mirror or all? [00:08] datace, uncomment only one [00:08] ip-route (~iproute@200.172.83.136) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:08] mach_kernel (~no@74.73.253.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:09] dive - on which country link should I uncomment? ty [00:09] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.224.97.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:09] datace, well the ones nearest you would be good [00:09] s/ones/one [00:10] dive - Why there are 155MBits, 1g, 45mbit in size which all are not the same? [00:10] datace, well it depends on the server - don't forget they are all provided free for us so find the fastest [00:10] darkrho (~rolando@190.107.34.109) joined ##slackware. [00:11] not all servers can afford the best connection for mirrors [00:11] and some have to throttle [00:11] dive - i see. I tot it was a filesize to download and update. [00:11] at the end of the day we are lucky to have them [00:12] no it's bandwidth [00:12] is there a way to get SlackBuilds use custom cflags from environment? I saw each one defines it's own generic cflags [00:12] dive - ty very much. [00:13] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [00:14] okay adding; if [ -n "${PS1-}" -a -n "${TERM-}" -a "${TERM-}" != "linux" ]; then [00:14] tput stuff [00:14] fi [00:14] fixed the error. strange though it's not doing it on my other machines [00:14] wrodrigues (~wrodrigue@triband-mum-120.60.132.128.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [00:16] wario, you shouldn't really have to do that. It must be getting set somewhere. I would have a look a bit more. [00:16] yeah. [00:16] i just don't know where [00:16] i have no /etc/bashrc [00:17] grep -r TERM .* [00:17] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-219-217.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:17] ~/.bash_profile? [00:17] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Nick change: agentc0re -> antic0re [00:17] wario, try making a new user and see if it does it for that [00:17] bash_profile is only sourcing .bashrc [00:18] if it doesn't then it must be something in your ~ [00:18] hmm okay [00:18] or maybe the controlling term you started X with? [00:19] ah. that's a good point.. i'll look at taht [00:19] that [00:19] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.21.234) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:19] juan--d-1-b (~Juan@186.28.215.69) joined ##slackware. [00:19] BadAtom_ (~epigramma@badatom.org) joined ##slackware. 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[00:32] aigoo, chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm && /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm start [00:33] thank you. [00:33] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:36] aigoo (~aigoo@92.84.13.169) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:40] who's read Chaitain's book _Meta Math_ [00:42] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:45] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:46] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [00:46] bigpaws (~bigpaws@clsm-207-7-180-87-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:49] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [00:49] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:51] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:12] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:12] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:14] gospch (~gospch@p5088F4FB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:16] slackware is pretty kewl [01:16] yes [01:17] TheGroove (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) got lost in the net-split. [01:17] snihf (~snihf@legendary.xserve.fr) got lost in the net-split. [01:17] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) got lost in the net-split. [01:17] trf (1000@shiva.norgrind.net) got lost in the net-split. [01:17] vdvluc (~vdvluc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) got lost in the net-split. [01:17] v3gard (~vegard@svale.hia.no) got lost in the net-split. [01:17] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) got lost in the net-split. [01:17] stunix (1000@85.19.183.98) got lost in the net-split. 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[01:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:55] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:56] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [01:56] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432274.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [01:59] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:59] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:01] hrm... opera takes up 20% of ram.. is that normal? [02:01] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:02] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [02:02] might check, some programs try to use extra ram as cache [02:02] check with the #opera guys? [02:06] Do need to require "slackpkg update" after installing slack? [02:06] graffz (~graffz@unaffiliated/graffz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:06] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: tltstc [02:07] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:08] also 20% doesn't say much, 20% of very little is very little :) [02:08] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [02:10] good point [02:11] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. [02:11] datace: after making sure /etc/slackpkg/mirrors is edited to the correct mirror first, yes [02:12] alisonken1noc, #opera is far from a helpful place, hardly anyone around, ever. I think the #opera on OperaNet is better though. [02:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:12] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:12] fire|bird, well, opera is a semi-commercial product isn't it? [02:13] alisonken1noc, sort of, yeah. [02:13] alisonken1noc, I wish it was an open source product. :) [02:13] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:17] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:18] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [02:20] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [02:21] jmonter (~47689732@gateway/web/freenode/x-nbkevrrqgmlyiabk) joined ##slackware. [02:21] hello everyone, [02:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:23] does anyone know if there's a lexmark 7600 series driver for slackware? lexmark has a linux driver for debian and redhat. [02:24] if debian uses it conforms to strict openness standards [02:24] s/it/it it/ [02:24] so it should be usable in slackware [02:27] Why does it seem that slackware is never supported or at least hard to find drivers or compile software. [02:28] because according to everyone 'slackware is a server distribution' :) [02:28] not sure what you mean exactly though i guess you mean pre-packaged things. the answer is simple, slackware is a very small user base compared to rpm and deb based distros [02:28] jmonter: you can use the redhat rpm and run rpm2tgz on it - at least it should give you a package you can track [02:29] mancha: correct - and most deb/rpm based distro's supposedly cater to the desktop crowd not the server crowd [02:30] I use alien to convert deb to tgz but it doesn't seem to work, my first printout was all black. [02:30] jmonter, not sure what that means (again :) ) [02:30] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:30] just extract the .deb to a new dir [02:31] you'll have a control and a data hierachy...focus on daya [02:31] er data [02:33] I'm sorry let me elavorate, converted .deb package to tgz run installation software driver installs, configure CUPS with new printer driver. But printed a black page. [02:33] I'll do that. [02:33] no wait no need. [02:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:33] yo uran the installer and it seemed to "install" ? [02:33] yeap [02:34] i.e. the LEXMARK window and you clicked next next next blah? [02:34] yeap [02:34] ok, so it seems like it is now more of a lexmark<-->cups issue to resolve [02:35] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:35] you're picking the correct ppd, ayup? [02:36] yeap [02:36] blank or black? [02:36] black [02:36] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-34.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:37] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] i've got no ideas, i don't own that HW [02:38] if you buy me one i'll get it working for you though [02:39] Coke (~coke@85.224.190.179) joined ##slackware. [02:39] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:39] I would if I hadn't lost my job a few weeks ago. :O) [02:40] oh shit. i should be buying you stuff then [02:40] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [02:41] Lexmarks are best considered as being "disposable". Cartridge costs are so high for them it's easier to just throw them out and buy a new printer than get new cartridges :P [02:41] oh well at least the printer works great with Mac and Windows, will try one of my other boxes that has Mint. [02:41] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:42] I would have to say the same about HP, Epson [02:42] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:43] Action: fhobia is wondering how to turn off speakers when he plugs in headphones... [02:44] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:44] Where do I set the default runlevel to use? [02:44] I have an HP 3320 works great under slackware but run out of ink, as you said LSD cheaper to buy a new printer than buying ink and does how I got a lexmark [02:45] Coke: /etc/init.d i think ? [02:45] graffz`` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [02:45] Coke; /etc/inittab [02:45] oop [02:45] :3 [02:46] so I change id:3:initdefault: to id:4:initdefault: ? [02:46] for gui startup yes [02:46] Nice [02:47] yes [02:47] once you're sure gui works [02:47] Ok, I'm not using any xorg.conf at the moment, guessing hal does all the stuff now, I'd like to limit the geometry and depth of the screen resolution for kdm [02:47] In particular for remote clients logged on using xdmcp [02:48] Also, it's using the wrong keyboard, I have no idea how to change this except changing the xorg.conf [02:48] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:52] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:53] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:53] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:54] bye all [02:54] Looks like some KDE settings is overriding my xorg.conf keyboard layout [02:54] jmonter (~47689732@gateway/web/freenode/x-nbkevrrqgmlyiabk) left irc: Quit: Page closed [02:55] is there a way to fix the NVM on my Intel 82574L nic? it is dead [02:58] Drakevr[at]Lab (~linuxteam@195.251.127.240) joined ##slackware. [02:58] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:58] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [02:58] hey [02:58] Any idea how I can make KDM use the xorg.conf keyboard? [02:59] dvorak? [03:00] Nah, swedish qwerty [03:00] looks like if I set no variant, it fails the setxkbmap command [03:01] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [03:01] FFS!!! [03:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-172.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:01] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [03:02] hmm i'm too stoopid right now no remember how i got dvorak working [03:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:03] I'm just looking for KDM (and subsequently XFCE) to use the keyboard layout as specified in xorg.conf [03:03] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:03] BadAtom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:04] i think i had to edit a script and add the command [03:04] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:04] I'm about to ugly hack the Xsession script for KDM [03:04] but that still doesn't explain why it ignores my layout in xorg.conf [03:05] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [03:05] BadAtom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) joined ##slackware. [03:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:08] Here's an interresting question: why does none of my TTY's receive input from keyboard? [03:08] I can switch to them, but I cannot type my login [03:08] In fact, all TTY's seem to have been disabled [03:09] Any idea how I can enable my TTY's? [03:10] Oh, I see it, runlevel 4 is removed from getty [03:10] i dunno wtf dude [03:11] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [03:12] oh, who was i talking to earlier regarding xdg-utils? [03:12] hip something? [03:12] hiphop? [03:12] i dunno [03:13] hipsdontlie? [03:13] i don't remember [03:13] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:14] hippie? [03:14] anyway, xdg-open has been broken in slackware for a long time, if you don't use a desktop environment [03:14] the latest cvs of xdg-utils fixes it [03:14] omfg... kdm is kicking my ass [03:14] How can regular users be allowed to shutdown the computer from a menu??? [03:15] sudo? [03:15] no, I meant, I dont want it [03:15] I want to turn that off [03:15] I'm asking "who in their right mind would allow it?" [03:15] (as a default no less) [03:15] is there a group like power that governs that ? [03:15] check sudoers file [03:15] Nick change: Kool-Aid -> Arirang [03:16] upon selecting shutdown the only thing that shuts down is Xorg, but kdm is still running, as is the kdm greeter process [03:16] hey Arirang :) [03:16] broken [03:16] Hey echelon [03:16] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:16] echelon, was it hiptobecubic that you were talking to earlier? [03:17] Arirang, you use any DE's with openbox? [03:17] fire|bird, yes! [03:17] thanks [03:17] kdm also stops responding to TERM [03:17] you're welcome [03:17] :) [03:17] echelon, hell no, I hate DEs, so unsightly [03:17] :D [03:17] same here [03:18] but have you had issues with default file handlers? [03:18] ie, apps opening local directories in firefox? [03:19] hmmmm [03:19] I use Dolphin for file browsing [03:19] hrm [03:19] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:20] pcmanfm - fast file manager like thunar for xfce [03:20] what're the dependencies? [03:20] i use x file explorer :) [03:21] echelon, there aren't any: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/pcmanfm/ [03:21] aside from what slack has already. [03:21] no, i mean for dolphin [03:22] oh, sorry. :P [03:22] I'm guessing a lot of KDE. [03:22] no worries :) [03:22] :) [03:23] ileg4l (~ileg4l@host61.200-80-140.static.telmex.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [03:23] ileg4l (ileg4l@host61.200-80-140.static.telmex.net.ar) left ##slackware. [03:23] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:23] Well, I don't know the exact dependencies for Dolphin, but as fire|bird said, it probably uses a lot of KDE. I have KDE installed but I don't use the DE [03:24] I use the components of it [03:24] :P [03:24] KDE isn't visually appealing to me [03:24] i guess i'm more of a purist [03:24] That goes the same for all other DEs [03:24] Yeah [03:25] i exclude all kde stuff during install [03:25] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:25] but i do miss the games :-/ [03:26] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:27] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [03:27] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Changing host [03:27] graffz (~graffz@unaffiliated/graffz) joined ##slackware. [03:28] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.162) joined ##slackware. [03:28] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:29] Any of you find that KDM just hangs without opening a new X display if you kill it often enough? [03:29] I need a display manager that works every time it starts up [03:29] graffz`` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [03:29] I've used GDM in the past and at least it starts an X display every time it runs [03:30] About 25% of the times when KDM restarts it just starst kdm and the greeter, but no screen is shown. [03:30] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:31] ctrl+alt+backspace will make KDM stop functioning [03:32] i'm not familiar with the login managers [03:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.113.249) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:32] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.162) left irc: Client Quit [03:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:33] My goodness, changed to XDM [03:33] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.120.151) joined ##slackware. [03:34] XD [03:34] It still kicks ass after all these years. None of the glossy UI or advanced user menus can compensate in KDM [03:34] Coke: try slim, it's quiet light :) [03:34] surrounder: need xdmcp [03:34] aaah ok [03:34] XDM is just the bomb [03:34] startx for life [03:35] It has all the functionailty you need, easy to configure, lightweight and most importantly: ain't broken [03:35] surrounder: can't [03:35] surrounder: the users login to a remote desktop [03:35] on a mainframe [03:35] Axius (~fd@92.84.13.169) joined ##slackware. [03:35] edthix (~ed@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [03:35] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-14-153.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:35] aah ok, cool :) [03:36] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:36] edthix (~ed@110.159.93.24) left irc: Client Quit [03:36] edthix (~ed@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [03:38] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-34.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:39] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:40] graffz (~graffz@unaffiliated/graffz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:46] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:48] cteg (~heretic@dyndsl-085-016-206-194.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [03:51] latemus (~m@c-67-161-249-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:55] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:56] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:58] edthix (ed@110.159.93.24) left ##slackware. [03:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:59] rockslinux (~rockslinu@195.22.110.89) joined ##slackware. [04:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:00] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:01] Hi all [04:02] aghori (~chatzilla@78-105-163-91.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:05] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:06] oobe (~aardvark@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [04:06] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:06] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:08] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [04:08] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:13] It's funny, I've tried gnome and kde now, but they're such a mess to setup for a large homogenic user group, now I'm back to old trusty XDM and Fluxbox [04:14] Simplicity for the win, again. [04:15] Morn [04:16] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [04:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:19] WOO!! [04:19] Goodbye loadlin! [04:19] 'bout bloody time too :) [04:20] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:22] simplicity in all, simplicity for all [04:23] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:23] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:29] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:31] pupit (p@unaffiliated/pupit) left ##slackware. [04:31] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432274.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [04:31] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:31] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:32] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432274.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:32] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [04:37] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:39] How do I change my entire system to use UTF-8? [04:40] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:40] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:42] its a kernel append isnt it? [04:43] /etc/profile.d/lang.sh not suitable? [04:43] append="vt.default_utf8=1" for console stuff I believe [04:44] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:45] rockslinux: yeah [04:45] but is LANG=en_US.UTF-8 enough to get UTF-8 for collation, monetary, etc? [04:46] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:46] turns out it is sufficient [04:47] as far as I know - yes [04:48] warning: grep can be excruciatingly slow when LANG is anything.UTF-8 [04:49] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:49] salmon (~sadmac@122-124-133-39.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:50] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [04:50] hmm, I have all okay. I am a Russian-language people, and I simply put the system to UTF * [04:51] ) [04:52] rockslinux: nastrovje! :P [04:52] rockslinux, http://unixforum.org/index.php?showtopic=31277 [04:52] :) [04:52] 1 package without a problems [04:53] rockslinux: I don't understand why UTF-8 isn't the standard for every application and system today [04:53] and why do you give a link? [04:53] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [04:54] I though what you are need utf-8 ? [04:54] What was the name of that extra repository? [04:54] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [04:54] It has sort of the stuff you'd expect, but is missing from slack main [04:54] SlackBuilds.org [04:54] sorry if that not so [04:54] utf-8 is pretty heavy duty, computationally speaking [04:54] slackbuilds? [04:54] fhobia: yeah [04:54] not too much for fast PC systems, but maybe too much for embedded stuff [04:54] Urchlay: nah [04:55] because not all programs are fully supported T8, especially older programs [04:55] Urchlay: my n900 runs on a small ARM works fine [04:55] rockslinux: yeah yeah, I get it "legacy!" [04:55] just move on [04:55] coke: I looked at what it'd take to do a proper utf-8 decoder on an old 8-bit machine, it'd be a mess [04:55] Urchlay: the only problem you have with UTF-8 are things like chineese [04:55] Urchlay: 8-bit machine?????? [04:55] dman thing's only got a 64k address space [04:55] Urchlay: and btw, ascii is a subset of utf8 [04:56] Urchlay: bank switching :P [04:56] aghori (~chatzilla@78-105-163-91.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:56] yeah. In this case an atari 800, made in 1980... but new embedded controllers are still made that aren't much more powerful [04:56] Urchlay: but yeah, I agree. Embedded devices from 1988 won't do UTF-8 very well [04:56] Urchlay: my cellphone has more power than my first 5 computers put together [04:56] in 1980, this wasn't considered embedded, it was a pretty decent home PC :) [04:56] Is there a better way to put it when a standard that was around first gets absorbed into another, newer one? :P [04:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:57] LSD`: rationality [04:57] LSD`: to make an 800 do bankswitching, you need a soldering iron [04:57] do you know any good and free unicode font? a complete font [04:57] Urchlay: yeah, but you're absolutely right. Let's not move to the better and newer standard out of respect for old Atari and Amiga users. [04:57] ;) [04:58] Actually, amiga used a 9mhz 16-bit CPU and would do utf-8 nicely [04:58] as did the motorola series of atari too [04:58] Coke: eh, no, I didn't mean that exactly... but e.g. a string search algorithm that operates on strings stored in utf-8 might be slower than one that operates on utf-16, depending on what the data set looks like [04:58] Urchlay: it IS slower [04:58] Coke: 68000 was actually 32 bit internally, though no one ever implemented it in such a way to malke the transition as painless as it should have been :( [04:59] Urchlay: so I lose a few microseconds every time my N900 searches for names [04:59] not if all the data happens to be in 7-bit ASCII [04:59] Urchlay: on the other hand, I can switch to cyryllic, chineese and swedish at the flick of a button [04:59] How will I ever make Nokia give me back my fractions of a second lost [04:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:59] yeah... though in my case, being able to accidentally switch to cyrillic, chinese, or swedish... would be a problem, if I didn't know how to undo it! [05:00] we can just use english and save the time and the space [05:00] salmon: yeah, that would be a dream [05:00] you should feel lucky you only lose fractions of a second, my N810 is so slow I'd probably lose days doing the same thing :P [05:00] (my computers can display a whole lot more languages than I'll ever learn to speak, even if I live to be 1000) [05:00] not a dream, learn to singapore [05:00] LSD`: hw in the 900 is a lot better [05:01] LSD`: got two high res cameras, 6 channel output, composite video output, etc [05:01] technically, it is by far the best phone on the market. [05:01] Coke: the real problem is that maemo sucks, nokia are just doing a better job of hiding it in the N900 [05:01] LSD`: no... it has GNOME written all over it [05:01] It has about 40 processes running just for the desktop [05:02] so you guys who code, and whose native language wasn't english... is it harder to learn C or Java or whatever, if you don't already know "int" means "integer", that kind of thing? [05:02] Urchlay: no [05:02] in fact, I didn't even know int was an english word until I was about 10-11 [05:02] hahaha, i recalled a joke [05:02] what about something like a SocketFactory in Java? I get all annoyed with those ExtraLongNamesLikeThis even though I know what all the words mean [05:02] Coke: a lot of that extra hardware doesn't work out of the box either afaik, you have to download additional software to make it all work because Nokia are still treating the Maemo platofrm as a hacker toy [05:02] chinese tried to create a full-chinese programming language... umm, totally crap [05:03] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:03] LSD`: nah, it all works, it just isn't optimized [05:03] Urchlay: that is retarded in any language [05:03] But Java is 90% about typing and 10% about using hype terminology [05:04] It was designed by a marketing division for newb programmers and managers [05:04] I guess I should have been on my knees thanking the Sun God that I was allowed to say HTTPServletRequest instead of HyperTextTransportProtocolServletRequest, at my last job where I was forced to use java [05:04] Coke: I really wanted to like the N900 since, despite it faults, I loved teh N810 to bits, it's just the more I looked into it, the more I found not enough of those faults were fixed to my satisfaction [05:04] Action: Urchlay hates Java [05:04] Urchlay: amen [05:04] java is dead, iirc [05:04] LSD`: Yeah, Nokia is pretty much doomed [05:04] salmon: I wish it would die [05:04] They thought people would cheer just because they are smart enough to use free software [05:05] LSD`: Nokia's methods are corporate; they suffer from all the corporate stupidity and lack of a clear directino you'd expect from non-free projects [05:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:05] Using free projects in your corporate minded thinking will get you nowhere fast, and that's exactly where Nokia is heading with Symbian, Maemo and Meego [05:05] all moving to UTF8, and teach Chinese [05:06] But you have to give Nokia credit, I have not seen anyone in the industry fail with three operating systems in the span of a year [05:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [05:06] That's some sort of record fo shizzle [05:06] no offense, but I'd rather poke my eyes out with a rusty fork than learn Chinese at my advanced age (sorry, I'm old, and Chinese is *hard*) [05:07] don't learn it [05:07] meaning depends partly on pitch, right? [05:07] Axius (~fd@92.84.13.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:07] Uhm, how do I use slackbuilds again? [05:07] and there are 30,000 "letters" in the alphabet? [05:07] There was a command with some weird name [05:07] you can't forget it in easy way, in your post-life [05:07] sbopkg perhaps? [05:08] perhaps I shall try it. Thanks [05:08] follow me to say: mandarin is not my language! [05:08] Coke: That isn't really the problem. Hardly anyone really gives a toss one way or the other regarding free or non-free, the mistake Nokia made with Maemo is expecting the open source community to do all thjeir legwork for them. It mostly worked, except that with everyone doing their own thing and with no single way to bring it all together and publish them, you never knew any of it was there [05:08] actually I don't really understand whether Mandarin and Cantonese are even the same language [05:08] hahaha, you moron [05:09] you don't know a thing about chinese [05:09] well, no I don't [05:09] Coke, did you look at slackbuilds.org? if they have a slackbuild for the program, you can also install sbopkg to semiautomate your build scripts [05:09] salmon: did he said he did ? [05:09] mandarin cant even read chinese poets correctly [05:09] rather, I just said everything I know, and all of it might be wrong [05:09] mandarin = a fake chinese language [05:09] Coke, as far as using a slackbuild, just d/l the source package described in the *.slackbuild, chmod +x the *.slackbuild, then run the slackbuild script [05:10] *.slackbuild is nothing more than a bash script to automate what you would do in cli to compile the package [05:11] the difference between mandarin and cantonese, is it closer to the difference between US english and british english, or the difference between english and german? [05:11] because mandarin is copied from real chinese [05:11] like a counterfiet [05:12] counterfeit = poor quality [05:12] I think they like to think of it as "improved Chinese" - kind of like the way MS "improves" things [05:12] mandarin = the language of sinomans [05:12] they are barbarians [05:13] improved my ass [05:13] Q [05:13] it has only 4 tones [05:13] edthix (~ed@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [05:13] that's why it sounds like shit [05:13] as interesting as Cantonese v. Chinese is, might be time to move to ##slackware-offtopic [05:13] tones? like musical notes, C E G etc? [05:14] ... [05:14] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. [05:14] prounce ways [05:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:14] aghori (~chatzilla@78-105-163-91.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539] [05:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. 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[05:34] it was back when IRC w as still being seriously used as a file sharing medium [05:35] what is DCC CHAT? the last time I looked at DCC was with model railroads [05:35] DCC is a direct communication mechanism for IRC client-s [05:35] alisonken1noc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Client-to-Client [05:35] you can use it to send files or chat as a direct comms channel between two clients, bypassing the server [05:36] ok - forgot the tag in there [05:36] alisonken1noc: ahh.. yea. Humour tags are necessary for borderline cases :) [05:36] hehe [05:36] :) [05:41] surrounder, not pay attention, I tuplu last time. I myself do not use it. [05:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [05:50] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:50] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-181-26-134.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:37] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:37] johndee (~id@95-29-180-105.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:39] johndee (~id@93-81-140-225.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:39] starcraft 2 gets released on july 27th [06:39] Kaapa_ (~Something@bl9-105-145.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:40] isnt 2 old? [06:40] i have an error showing up: "the process for the smb://darkstar protocol died unexpectedly." im running on current [06:40] no, 2 is unreleased [06:40] ah, nah, was probably thinking of something else [06:42] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-105-116.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:42] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:42] ah yes, it was the expansion to 1 i was thinking about [06:42] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] after googling, it seems its a Dolphin SMB handling issue [06:53] Action: phrag is waiting for SC2 [06:55] starcraft was the only reason i had installed windows for a week in 2007. it was also the last cd i treasured until i got rid of it too after that week :) [06:55] sahk0: I actually ran it in wine for some time [06:56] sahk0: but then I upgraded to nextgen (64 bits) [06:56] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.82.16) joined ##slackware. [06:56] i am not willing to use wine/any kind of emulation/virtualisation to play a game tbh [06:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:57] don't you know? "wine is not an emulater" :) [06:58] :p [06:58] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:59] i dont play games anyway. last games ive enjoyed playing were carmageddon 1, starcraft, many dos games. modern stuff dont appeal much to me [07:00] sahk0: I don't use wine either, but back then when I was running the OLD HARDWARE (32-bits) I felt it was ok [07:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [07:00] sahk0: if anybody wants me to pay for shit they better do it right [07:02] I have XkbLayout "se" in my xorg.conf, any idea why XDM does not honour it? [07:03] bbl [07:03] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:03] xdm doesn't use xorg.conf for it's configuration [07:04] X uses xorg.conf [07:04] xdm uses your resource file [07:04] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: arr! [07:04] look at /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources [07:07] caixabox_ (~c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-clmlioqcogcibuve) joined ##slackware. [07:07] hello everybody ... i'm trying from yesterday to compile visualpyhton but unfortunately i didn't understand the errors i get =( ? anyone already tried to compile it yet ? [07:08] no and I won't but if you want help, pastebin the log/errors you get [07:08] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:09] caixabox__ (~c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-bmjdtxdyuzxjznzd) joined ##slackware. [07:09] here it's : http://pastebin.com/JgWsCKB2 [07:10] well, something with arrayprim.lo died [07:10] did you do "./configure" in there first? as well as check the configure options you may need? [07:11] yes of course [07:11] Coke (~coke@85.224.190.179) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:11] caixabox_ (~c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-clmlioqcogcibuve) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:14] here is what i get when running ./configure : http://pastebin.com/FEBrVsXV [07:19] maybe because i omitted PYTHON=/usr/bin/python ../visual-x.x.x/configure --prefix=/usr/local [07:19] it's compling gope it'll work [07:19] *compiling [07:19] are you running slackware64 or slackware? [07:19] slackware [07:20] looks like it found it at line 91 [07:21] you think arrayprim.cpp is wrong [07:21] how to display line in emacs ? [07:22] don't know if it's wrong, but that appears to be where it's failing at [07:22] can't help with emacs - don't use/install it [07:22] ok i'll find it [07:22] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:22] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.82.16) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:24] arrayprim from line 76 to 101 : http://pastebin.com/pcarz2MA [07:25] interesting - I'm not a cpp programmer, so don't know if the use of & at the end of a variable name is valid [07:26] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:26] its at the en of a type this is correct mean it looks at the adress of the parameter [07:26] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tpbnxbxswdagvwpj) joined ##slackware. [07:26] I understand & in c and python, just don't know about c++ [07:27] sry [07:27] but how did know it was at line 91 [07:27] edthix (ed@110.159.93.24) left ##slackware. [07:27] look at the pastebin output - it puts line numbers of the pasted text [07:27] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:28] ups srry [07:28] np [07:28] Axius (~fd@92.82.89.73) joined ##slackware. [07:28] because this line correspond a return at the end of dims[1]==2 if statement [07:28] ups dims[1]=3 [07:29] on the config pastebin output, line 91 shows that python is found because it says it's checking for python>2.2, and found python 2.6 [07:30] How can install lilo bootloader again. I've deleted lilo from master boot record by misstake. What should I do? [07:30] i thaught you told me to see the line 91 of arrayprim.cpp file [07:30] sorry - didn't specify the line number I was pointing to was for the python question [07:30] Axius, if you still have root access, type "lilo" as root [07:31] .. little miss understanding =) [07:31] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] I get this msg when I run lilo as root:Fatal: open /boot/slack.bmp: No such file or directory [07:32] Axius, ok - then you need to look at /boot directory and/or /etc/lilo.conf and see what's up [07:32] What can I do to have my slack back? [07:32] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [07:32] Axius, what did you do? [07:33] thx alisonken1noc i should post this on visual mailing list [07:33] malikcpp, probably a better place to start :) [07:34] it might be something as simple as the arrayprim might be looking for something else that's missing [07:36] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:37] alisonken1noc: /etc/lilo.conf is ok. What other solution do I have to restore the bootloader? [07:39] Axius, what about /boot files, like /boot/slack.bmp? [07:39] is not there any more. [07:40] toby__ (~Tobbs@212.183.140.3) joined ##slackware. [07:40] ok - you can edit /etc/lilo.conf and comment all of the lines in the section about boot bmp image, then uncomment the "message = " line just below it [07:40] after that, rerun lilo [07:41] is there a way to mount a luk/lvm partition i installed awhile ago ? [07:41] toby__: standard luksOpen, lvscan, mount [07:41] luksOpen /dev/*** ? [07:43] man cryptsetup, toby__ [07:43] ok will do [07:43] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [07:43] Drakevr[at]Lab (~linuxteam@195.251.127.240) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:44] i dont have the luksOpen command do i need to install it ? [07:44] alisonken1noc: This is my /ect/lilo.conf : http://dpaste.com/190660/ [07:44] toby__: man cryptsetup - how hard is that? [07:45] ok sorry [07:45] Axius, comment all lines between line 10 and 23 ( put a # as the first character) in that pastebin, and uncomment (remove the first #)line 28 [07:46] ok [07:46] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Nick change: wertik_rus -> NiceBoy [07:47] Axius, after saving lilo.conf, run 'lilo' again [07:47] Nick change: NiceBoy -> wertik_rus [07:52] alisonken1noc: I get this error after rerunning lilo: Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz: No such file or directory [07:54] alisonken1noc: this my config file now:http://dpaste.com/190665/ [07:54] Axius, what does "ls -l /boot" show [07:54] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:55] alisonken1noc: It's showing this : http://dpaste.com/190666/ [07:56] try "ls -l /boot/" with a trailing slash - that pastebin was the contents of root (/) [07:56] not boot (/boot) [07:56] caixabox__ (~c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-bmjdtxdyuzxjznzd) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:56] alisonken1noc: ok [08:00] actualmind (~bd5aa03c@gateway/web/freenode/x-rzbokramedntzldq) joined ##slackware. [08:01] gades (~gades@190.33.62.4) joined ##slackware. [08:01] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:01] alisonken1noc: I've installed slitaz and it seems that it overwrite my /boot dir. [08:02] fun [08:02] what is slitaz? [08:02] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:02] a linux distro [08:03] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:03] lovely [08:03] are you in slackware now? [08:04] yes [08:04] grep boot/ /var/log/packages/* | cut -d/ -f5 | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq [08:04] should give you a nice list of which packages put crap in /boot [08:04] reinstall the kernel and lilo packages [08:04] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [08:05] those 2 packages should be the only ones that install /boot stuff [08:05] samuraix (~samurai@divineflow.org) joined ##slackware. [08:05] are you sure? :> [08:05] well, there's grub in /extra :) [08:06] mkinitrd does too [08:06] Emeau-cat (~Emeau-cat@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:07] ok - mkinitrd puts the README there that I know of [08:07] initrd-tree is only created when running mkinitrd [08:07] samuraix (~samurai@divineflow.org) left irc: Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it. [08:07] What should I do next? [08:08] Axius, did you reinstall the kernel and lilo packages? [08:08] alisonken1noc: How can I do that? [08:08] are you using slackpkg ? [08:08] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:08] yes [08:09] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [08:09] slackpkg reinstall kernel [08:09] slackpkg reinstall lilo [08:09] as root [08:10] my command above will give you a nice list; pipe it to slackpkg reinstall :) [08:10] for the kernel, there's kernel-generic and kernel-huge [08:13] Lexus45 (~alexey@95.129.162.218) joined ##slackware. [08:14] alisonken1noc: What should I install kernel-huge or kernel-generic? [08:14] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:15] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:15] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:16] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:16] I'll reboot to see what's happeing. [08:17] Nick change: jg71 -> mr [08:17] Nick change: mr -> jg71 [08:17] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. 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[09:24] morning fuzzbawl [09:26] morning fuzzbawl [09:28] how can I retrieve a pid of a running process? [09:29] pidof(8) [09:29] |Slacker| (~cris@189.116.89.235) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:29] Morning, fuzzy :) [09:30] i'm so tired. I feel like I need to sleep for another hour [09:31] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:31] I'm there, but with s/hour/day/ [09:32] rockslinux (~rockslinu@195.22.110.55) joined ##slackware. [09:36] rworkman, thanks, but it's not working... [09:36] gtludwig, try pgrep [09:36] edthix (~ed@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [09:38] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:38] thrice`, i'm trying to get pid for this: "pgrep /opt/java/apache-tomcat-6.0.20/bin/startup.sh" buy nothing returns [09:39] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:39] startup.sh is running? [09:39] Look in "ps ax" then gtludwig [09:39] pgrep startup.sh or so; it expects a pattern [09:41] I can check that, alienBOB, I want, though, to create a startup script for tomcat and hold its pid for checking [09:42] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:43] You should look at what that startup.sh does -- probably it execs something else. [09:44] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:47] rworkman: hello there [09:47] alienBOB: good morning [09:48] alienBOB, rworkman, thrice`, thanks =) [09:48] Kenjiro: xiu [09:48] Kenjiro: g'morning :) [09:49] gar0t0, Kenjiro, welcome .br [09:49] gar0t0: shupa [09:50] pupit (p@unaffiliated/pupit) left ##slackware. [09:50] edthix (ed@110.159.93.24) left ##slackware. [09:50] .br here too =) [09:51] it's almost an invasion then [09:51] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [09:52] alienBOB: :) Howdy [09:52] rworkman: howdy [09:52] well well well [09:53] gar0t0: ola! [09:53] :) [09:55] gar0t0: so, improving your english, huh? ;) [09:56] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:57] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:59] anyone on 64-current tried that pssh script from the most recent update? [10:00] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:01] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:01] What pssh script [10:02] irado (~irado@189-54-19-226-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:02] sorry the pssh script itself [10:03] theseb (~theseb@ppp-70-247-42-246.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] help! i accidentally ran initdb (postgres command)....how delete the database "cluster" it created? [10:04] reboot! kernel update :) [10:04] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [10:04] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: brb [10:04] alienBOB: psshlib is in /usr/lib64 but python appears to miss it there [10:05] theseb: try asking on #postgresql [10:05] ok [10:06] theseb (theseb@ppp-70-247-42-246.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:06] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [10:07] damn, etc/magic is foo'd [10:08] alienBOB: ah yeah the new one is missing the sys.path.append patch [10:09] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:09] GooseYArd: I still have the old one, need to upgrade some. Wait... [10:09] sure [10:11] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [10:12] ahh i see [10:13] Pray tell [10:16] Action: Zordrak has spent 2 hours diagnosing an insane and impossible problem... only to discover theres a bug in RouterOS that stops arp working for "some mac addresses" [10:16] >.< [10:17] the little sed substitution in the slackbuild doesnt match now [10:17] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:17] irado (~irado@189-54-19-226-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Quit: fuiii!! [10:17] Zordrak: mikrotik confirmed it? [10:18] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [10:18] aghori (~chatzilla@dyn102011.shef.ac.uk) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539] [10:18] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:19] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [10:19] ezr (~jpb@66.189.48.225) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:19] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:20] GooseYArd: I'll look at it [10:20] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:21] Dominian: yep [10:21] Dominian: bug in 4.6, fixed in 4.7, i upped to 4.9 [10:22] Action: Dominian nods [10:22] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Client Quit [10:26] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [10:30] heh he expects psshlib under /usr [10:31] Yes, that needs fixing [10:31] unless he assumed that /usr/lib was already in pythonpath? [10:32] it might make more sense to package psshlib into site-packages [10:33] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [10:35] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] It looks as if the author expects that the pssh tools are run from within the extracted tarball. [10:36] yah [10:36] I.e. the thing is self-contained and can be moved anywhere [10:36] But, that is against clean packaging guidelines [10:36] dropping psshlib into site-packages works nicely since it avoids arch altogether [10:37] Yes [10:38] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:38] That works. Small update to the SlackBuild [10:39] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:40] speaking of update... [10:41] looks like I have some stuff to upgrade on my slack64-current ;) [10:43] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:43] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] v4nelle (~van@79.107.247.60) joined ##slackware. [10:46] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:47] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:51] A lot to update if you did not watch for a couple of days Kenjiro... [10:51] alienBOB: a couple of days indeed [10:52] And if KDE releases their 4.4.3 sources, I will follow immediately with the Slackware packages (I am sitting on those for two days now) [10:52] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:52] GooseYArd: I've submitted a fixed pssh.SlackBuild to PV, works for me now [10:52] _tsolox_ (~guest1257@124.6.157.10) joined ##slackware. [10:53] thank you sir [10:53] alienBOB: that's what I used to do. I had the packages ready when kde guys released the sources officialy [10:53] Moved the module into the python site_lib [10:53] <_tsolox_> is it possible to install a crontab file in one's home folder..and overriding the one in /etc/crontab? [10:53] I've added kdevelop 4.0.0 [10:53] alienBOB: What, no releasing before the official release like Arch? [10:53] alienBOB: but now I fell back into the shadows... awaiting for YOUR packages ;) [10:53] Like Arch, and Debian? No [10:54] ls: cannot access /etc/crontab: No such file or directory [10:54] Kenjiro: you got a lot of extra free time that way ;-) [10:54] alienBOB: yes, my kids are enjoying the change *grin* [10:54] And, I have to compile for two ARCHes even... more than twice the time [10:54] _tsolox_: this is a place for Slackware. [10:55] alienBOB: how do you do it? Do you have two computers for the compiling? Or use cross-compiling? [10:55] He jacks in like Johnny Neumonic [10:55] and 'thinks' the packages to life [10:55] Dominian: ahahahahha [10:55] If you do it carefully, you can use one computer to do both. [10:55] No, 64bit compiles on real hardware, and 32bit in a virtual machine [10:55] The sane way is to use a vm, though. [10:56] alienBOB: I used to do the same (I would compile the 32bit packges for my netbook) [10:56] _tsolox_ (guest1257@124.6.157.10) left ##slackware. [10:56] I do not have enough computers to cross-compile _and_ do my usual jobrelated work [10:56] but damn it takes ages to compile in a VM hehehe [10:56] Usually I plan the work so that the compilation inside the VM happens when I sleep [10:57] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [10:57] alienBOB: that's a good plan [10:57] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] I used to leave my computer at home doing the hard job.. while I was at my job LOL [10:59] I need to remember to set my server up so I can access it remotely, and have it work for me while I'm gone during the weeks. [11:01] ok, lunch time [11:02] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:03] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[11:34] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:34] fuzzbawl: However, all the time you skip through now will come back later. About 45 min before clock off time time will slow down. By 15 till it will more or less have stopped. [11:35] alienBOB, then my clock is WAY off [11:35] fuzzbawl: That's my special theory on the relativity of time. [11:35] Depends, fuzzbawl, whether you live close to me or now ;-) [11:36] I'm not allowed to run dropbox on that server. What can I do then? [11:37] scp? [11:37] edthix (~ed@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [11:37] FriedBob: your theory is fairly accurate [11:37] fuzzbawl: It kicks in sooner on Fridays, and even sooner on the last day before a long weekend. [11:37] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [11:38] fuzzbawl: I've yet to meet one who could provide evidence contrary. I think it may be close to ready for "law" status. [11:38] I'm still looking at a theory that will explain how the glib/* guys managed to accept a piece of crap like gobject-introspection, it's completely wrong, like if you $((2*3)) returned 17... [11:38] any taker? [11:39] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:39] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:39] adrien: I suspect it involves cash, booze, food and/or hookers. [11:40] adrien: And acts Jerry Springer would be ashamed to discuss on his show. [11:40] hmmm, could be it but I'm not sure it'd be enough [11:41] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:41] rockslinux (~rockslinu@195.22.110.55) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:42] save me from morons who tag their code, check it out, zip it up and commit it back to releases/ [11:43] Zordrak: Here's a clean, untracable shotgun and a few boxes of ammo. Save yourself. [11:44] theyve even written scripts to do it for them >< [11:45] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-224-124.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:46] use rocksalt, it stings [11:47] spook: I like a mix of rocksalt, kosher salt and table salt. [11:47] Action: NaCl sees that NaCl is being used [11:49] A salt assault. [11:50] mirmillo (2032@friedman.ivoltaire.org) left ##slackware. [11:50] rob0: Lemme guess, throw a battery at them too, to make it a salt and battery? [11:50] rob0: assalt [11:50] lol [11:52] edthix (ed@110.159.93.24) left ##slackware. [11:52] Ur1p8DD$ [11:53] what the hell does that mean [11:54] looks like a randomly generated password [11:55] Emeau-cat (~Emeau-cat@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Quitte [11:56] hey guys, i want to check if the PWD exists in a list of directories /usr/bleh/bleh/{dir1,dir2,dir3} [11:56] if [ `pwd` -e ${dirs} ]; then [11:56] echo ${dirs} [11:56] fi [11:57] nope [11:57] yeh, i'm having trouble getting the syntax right [11:57] so want to check if the output of pwd matches a list of directories, i've specified by DIR=/path/to/{dir1,dir2,dir3} [11:58] can someone point out my glaring mistake? [11:59] #bash is full of legendary people [11:59] firstly, change -e to == [11:59] yeh i had == originally [12:00] hail86 (~bogdan@74.198.12.3) joined ##slackware. [12:00] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] has anybody played Cave Story? [12:02] also you used several variables, is the ${dirs} in the if the same as the DIR= ? [12:03] finally, i don't think your script is doing the expansion you'd like: as in /path/to/{dir1,dir2} [12:04] jessicaa (e_k@41.236.13.239) joined ##slackware. [12:06] phrag, i don't think you can use shell expansions in a script like that. [12:08] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:13] for i in {dir1,dir2}; do if [ $(pwd) == ${i} ]; then echo $i;done ? [12:14] hail86 (~bogdan@74.198.12.3) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:14] thats one way, or else using echo with the brace expansion [12:15] rockslinux (~rockslinu@195.22.110.81) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Nick change: Hello -> nix_chix0r [12:21] i'd be lazy and use echo too :> [12:21] psYcker (~psYcker@201.165.137.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:24] rockslinux (~rockslinu@195.22.110.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:27] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: shonudo [12:27] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:31] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:32] thank guys, legend =) [12:34] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:515:2096:b078:263d:2ea2) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:36] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:515:2096:b078:263d:2ea2) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Fleurety (~fleurety@93.186.164.51) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:38] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-139.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Fleurety (~fleurety@93.186.164.51) joined ##slackware. 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[13:49] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-33-233-94.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:50] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:50] when booting i get an error that touch can't create /var/lock/subsys/messagebus [13:50] dios_mio (test@88.241.128.41) joined ##slackware. [13:50] hello slack brotherz! [13:50] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [13:50] what would be dbus [13:52] jlindsay (~none@c-71-228-171-33.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] hmm... not sure why that dir doesn't exist [13:54] haqe19 (~minty@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:56] evening/afternoon/whatever hi . How can I configure the system to resolve a host name to an ip address internally, ie without performing a dns request to the configured dns server [13:56] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:56] use /etc/hosts [13:57] "man hosts" is your friend [13:57] danke, just what i was needed :) [13:58] haqe19 (~minty@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Client Quit [13:58] ang: i think someone said that the other day too. havent seen it here. it should be dbus related (maybe)? have you merged rc.messagebus.new? [14:02] i probably just moved .new over the old file [14:04] that worked for me [14:06] a/dbus-1.2.24-i486-2.txz: Rebuilt. [14:06] Removed $LOCKFILE creation from rc.messagebus.new. [14:06] guess i need to recompile :) [14:06] rebuild* [14:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:08] edthix (~edthix@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [14:09] edthix (edthix@110.159.93.24) left ##slackware. [14:11] edthix (~edthix@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [14:11] hi, anyone tried compiling libbonobo (Slackbuilds.org)? keep getting Error 2 [14:12] hmm, can't seem to mount nfs partitions anymore either ... [14:13] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:13] rockslinux (~rockslinu@195.22.110.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [14:13] edthix: try posting the last 40-50 lines of your build in a pastebin [14:14] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [14:14] edthix (edthix@110.159.93.24) left ##slackware. [14:14] edthix (~edthix@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [14:15] psYcker (~psYcker@201.165.130.142) joined ##slackware. [14:15] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-139.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:15] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:16] estranho (~diogo@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [14:19] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [14:19] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [14:20] ok, weird. i have to pass -o "nfsvers=3" to mount now to get nfs mounting to work [14:21] (after upgrading nfs-utils to 1.2.2)\ [14:23] strange it wasn't mentioned [14:24] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:25] not sure what's going on as the slackbuild says to enable v3 and disable v4 [14:28] edthix (edthix@110.159.93.24) left ##slackware. [14:28] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [14:31] maddslacker (~corey@63-227-0-51.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] anyone know what package includes libuuid? [14:33] /var/log/packages/util-linux-ng-2.17.1-x86_64-1:usr/lib64/libuuid.la [14:33] That? [14:34] yeah [14:34] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:34] my real issue is wine won't run cuz it is missing the 32bit version of that [14:35] util-linux-ng [14:35] maddslacker: on slackware64? [14:35] yup [14:35] w/ multilib? [14:35] with alienbob's multilibs installed [14:35] ^^ [14:36] phrag: strange it wasn't mentioned ... did you have the same issue? [14:36] pretty sure alienBOB's multilib comes with a dual purpose gcc, so you could do ARCH=i486 util-linux-ng.SlackBuild [14:36] ang: no, sorry to mislead.. was just curious [14:36] k [14:36] maddslacker: If you need to, anyhow [14:36] what eviljames said =) [14:36] eviljames, yeah, I thought I would start with the official build and then go from there [14:39] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p54B16B03.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] \o/ the official build did the trick [14:41] mancha (mancha@DOMINIA.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [14:41] mancha (mancha@DOMINIA.MIT.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [14:41] bonus...it fixed my citrix client! [14:42] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:42] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:44] night [14:44] alreadygone (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("We were always meant to say goodbye..."). [14:44] maddslacker: that's like 2 wins in 1!\ [14:45] well [14:46] eviljames, or two losses, depending on perspective [14:46] i.e. got two windows-ish things working...heh [14:49] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:52] http://pastebin.com/L8VEn6wT [14:53] ^^ i thought nfs version 4 was disabled in slackware ... mount.nfs from nfs-utils-1.2.2 seems to want to use ver=4 even tho the slackbuild specifically disables it [14:54] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Client exiting [14:54] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] the magnitude of stupidity on ubuntu forums should scare me but on this very day it amuses me. very much. 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[15:04] your system files, per se, should not get "corrupted" [15:05] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-235.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:06] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:06] hackedhead_ (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:07] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-55-83.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:07] that feature is planned tho, mancha [15:07] lol [15:08] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-14-153.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:09] for maxxed-space v2.0 [15:10] oscillator (~oscillato@250.Red-79-147-180.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Action: oscillator good night slackers [15:11] The_ManU_212: df <- disk free [15:12] The_ManU_212: If it is full you can use du <- disk used in such a manner: $ du -h /var/log [15:13] The_ManU_212: "du -h --max-depth=2 /" will take a very long time to complete, but should give you a full log of what is using which amount of space [15:14] eviljames: thx i corrected allready and freed some space, but im afraid of corrupting the system since for some minutes nothing could be written on the disk [15:14] Skywise: free is about ram, not disk. [15:14] is it a fatal error for linux this scenario? [15:14] eviljames, doh i meant df [15:14] Nah, not fatal, but will grind your system to a halt. In general, keep your disks under 90% used. [15:15] mancha, put this in .kde/Autostart [15:15] http://pastebin.org/201653 [15:15] eviljames: yep i wanted to that i made space available on / after tehre wa no byte free anymore [15:15] maddslacker no thanks. [15:15] Depending on the size, and your journal and which filesystem, 95% might be a better rule of thumb, but 90 should be safe. [15:15] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-26.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] i mean The_ManU_212 lol [15:15] mancha, ^^ [15:16] hahah [15:16] heh [15:16] maddslacker: If it is for a desktop system, wouldn't it be easier to just add a disk free plasmoid? [15:16] sure [15:16] unless your disk is too full for plasma to load [15:17] that can also go in rc.local for a non-gui system [15:17] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-26.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:17] or as its own rc.whatever, even [15:17] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-28-162.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:17] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt2-port-26.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] i'd say clear out your /tmp, then put your /tmp as a /dev/shm in fstab to clear up some space [15:18] Axelpalm (alch@78-28-99-184.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [15:18] jewbacca: This assumes that you don't want to save anything in /tmp through reboots though [15:18] HD space is cheaper than RAM, why would you ever wanna do that [15:18] maddslacker: Or it could go as a daily cron job. [15:19] eviljames: something in /tmp that you want to save can be copied out of /tmp [15:19] eviljames, on my server it is, but on my laptop it runs at login [15:19] my /tmp is like 100GB [15:19] maddslacker: thx for the script and thx for your recommendations [15:19] i have shit in there dating back to 1973 [15:19] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-210-195.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:19] np [15:20] http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-05-04-021-35-MM-SS [15:20] mancha: to get rid of stale files...besides, that of /tmp which gets too large can be paged back to hd [15:20] BUT my system actually run full 100% no bit free, now i wnated to know what could be destroyed on my linux partition, i also amde space free some minutes after the 1st app (kde) crashed and i noticed it [15:20] sahk0: Good riddance to bad complexity. [15:20] its always good to prevent it but what to do if it allready run full [15:21] my /tmp is 4.4 GB [15:21] The_ManU_212: i'd say go to runlevel 1 and clear out your /tmp [15:21] The_ManU_212: There's no real way to know what didn't get saved afaik. Most likely some log bits and stuff. [15:21] eviljames i see we have some similar bad habits [15:21] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:21] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [15:22] eviljames: hadnt noticed there were both radeon & radeonhd [15:22] Indeed [15:22] jewbacca: ok my tmp is cleared every shutdown, so i should forcing and rm -rf /tmp and a real way to be sure all is fine isnt possible? [15:22] "...Like 8 days ago." [15:23] i guess radeon is xf86-video-ati [15:23] The_ManU_212, before that script I filled up my drive twice, there were no permanent issues [15:23] lol [15:23] "jewbacca" [15:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [15:24] sahk0: Yes, xf86-video-ati contains radeon. [15:24] maddslacker: ok which fs and in which time-range? [15:25] xfs and it was a while ago [15:25] last year [15:26] maddslacker: xfs sucks when it gets full, eh? :P [15:26] well, really just kde grinds to a halt [15:26] you can boot runlevel 3 and fix it [15:27] my /home is ext4, but that never filled up....yet [15:28] has alienBOB been around today? [15:31] maddslacker: k i think something with the devfs is wrong i need to reboot [15:31] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Hi guys. I have some fight videos I want to chop up. Is there an app already installed for that? For example, I just want to show 2:30 to 3:00. [15:31] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-85-66.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:33] vid format? [15:33] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:33] An app for fight videos? Nope [15:33] mpg [15:33] Bah, straterra you know what I mean. [15:33] The current software only works for birthday parties [15:33] LOL [15:33] Shush. [15:33] I got some videos I want to combine, USMC, MMA, etc. [15:33] Cinelerra [15:33] Just trying to get the best parts. [15:34] Thanks. [15:34] Looks good. [15:34] riza, avidemux [15:34] lot simpler than cinelerra [15:35] GooseYArd (GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware. [15:35] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-23.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:35] Ooh, alright. [15:35] I use avidemux for clips all the time [15:36] Should be as easy as cut and paste for an dummy like me. [15:36] it is [15:36] ;) [15:37] I used cat cause I'm hardcore :D [15:37] cat, head, and tail! [15:37] LOL [15:37] Very hardcore raela. [15:37] Action: riza bows. [15:37] Action: maddslacker uses a magnetized needle and a steady hand [15:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-162.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:38] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [15:38] maddslacker: bah, I use butterflies, too. f emacs! [15:38] I use butterflies [15:40] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [15:42] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-21-96.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:43] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-85-66.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [15:43] xlq (xlq@88-106-30-102.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware ("--- Text goes here text goes here text goes here ---"). [15:43] re after rebooting i can format a partition so itw as only a temporary problem with the devfs (propably because of a full disk)? [15:44] whut? [15:44] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p54B16B03.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:44] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-55-83.multimo.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:45] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-23.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:47] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-45.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:47] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-21-96.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:49] yay, the array finally rebuilt... i hate this fuckin promise card >.> [15:51] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:51] Nick change: NaCl -> HULK_ [15:53] I like mine [15:53] Necos: that was since yesterday ? [15:53] P4C0 (paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left ##slackware. [15:53] 3ware is purty good [15:54] Nick change: HULK_ -> NaCl [15:55] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:55] l34f__ (~larry@212.183.140.32) joined ##slackware. [15:56] l34f__ (~larry@212.183.140.32) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] l34f__ (~larry@212.183.140.32) joined ##slackware. [15:59] yeah [15:59] xsamurai, it actually got stuck at 58% yesterday, and i had to reboot the machine today when i got in, then it finished about an hour ago [16:00] now i'm getting all the data off the array so i can swap the cards and get rid of the POS [16:00] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:01] geckos (~user@189.121.5.105) joined ##slackware. [16:01] get a pci-e 24 port Areca card [16:01] I've gotten 385MB/s write speeds with those [16:01] what part of "no money" doesn't make sense? [16:01] :P [16:02] I missed that part [16:02] heh [16:02] haha [16:02] in course use onboard SATA and LIKE it! heh [16:02] Necos: trust me it took me two years to get a backup server out of my cheap ass company [16:02] i have an escalade 7508 to replace it with [16:03] Candinho (~Candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [16:03] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Here's the thing.. I a basic slackware system on a pendrive.. It boots in my desktop, but not in others that not detect it as /dev/sdc, my problem is with the line boot = /dev/sdc of lilo.conf. I try boot = /dev/disk/by-id/MypendriveFactor987623freaknumbers.. but it seems to be unsupported. Any ideia? [16:03] I have * [16:03] excuse my english [16:06] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:06] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] geckos, you asked me about doing that about 3 weeks ago, and i told you that would happen :P [16:08] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [16:08] you'd have to use grub for that [16:09] I see [16:09] grub supports the /dev/disk/id syntax [16:09] ? [16:09] yes [16:10] Ok, so will be grub [16:10] thank you very much Necos! [16:10] but i don't use grub, so i can't help you past that :P [16:12] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:12] I use it, but the slackware comes with lilo so my first try is with it.. [16:12] I like lilo [16:12] lilo does what it does well [16:14] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-45.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:14] the grub madness will never end i guess. i dont hold a grub ... cos it's spelled gudge. [16:14] powtrix- (~powtrix@189-69-29-245.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Nick change: powtrix- -> powtrix [16:15] +r ... borked puns+-- [16:15] geckos, why arent you doing root= ? [16:17] oh nvm. i've never done by-id boots with lilo, i am surprised it can't do it [16:18] pretty sure neither can grub, the kernel just cant do it alone and needs a initrd [16:19] WildWizard: Howdy. Long time no see. 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[16:26] Hey there [16:26] he's trying not to get bit by the kernel not knowing the boot device [16:26] i thought lilo supposed uuid stuff :< [16:27] another* [16:27] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-137.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] thrice`: uid poits to partition [16:28] Well, IIRC, there's no way to do that universally, at least provided that the drives are different. [16:28] You can't just take the same lilo.conf file from one machine to another, or from one drive to another, and expect it to work unless the drive setup is identical. [16:29] even if you use disk uuid ? [16:29] root can use uuid, since that is a kernel param [16:29] (isn't that the point of uuid??) [16:30] for consistancy, regardless of number of drives / order of drives / oceans tide / etc [16:30] thrice, the interesting question is how much the computer knows at the first stage of lilo [16:31] Alan_Hicks: even with a huge generic kernel? [16:32] mancha: That's the big question.. [16:35] yeah, what is the hurdle for lilo to use the /dev/disk stuff? [16:35] The boot= parameter only tells /sbin/lilo where to *install* the bootloader. [16:35] As for whether that drive gets booted in reality, that's up to the bios. [16:36] You can pull a drive with a bootloader in the MBR and put it in another machine and it will (at least try to) boot. [16:36] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [16:36] i've been insisting on root= for a while now but he kept alking about root :) [16:36] er boot [16:37] that, too [16:38] If you're booting multiple installaations from multiple drives, it's best to have a single drive (perhaps even a bootable usb stick) that can hold all of the kernels and initrd images on it -- if you're using lilo -- else it's simply not going to work as you expect. [16:39] (due to the way lilo reads the kernel/initrd image off the disk. [16:39] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-85-66.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:39] msocorcim (~dennis@adsl-074-169-084-211.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:40] Otherwise, you install a bootloader into the mbr of each drive, and then chainload it from the "main" mbr. [16:40] For that, I'm a big fan of /boot/$hostname/ [16:40] on nfs? ;-) [16:40] Sometimes. [16:40] (that's a joke, for those not clueful enough to get it) :) [16:41] I see that the label is read at init script .. I wasn't using a initrd.gz image ... Can be that my problem?? [16:41] the kernel boots in my machine [16:42] but not on others [16:42] 15 [16:42] I got .. kernel panic.. cannot sync [16:43] it wasnt me, geckos [16:45] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [16:45] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:47] rockslinux (~rockslinu@213.87.194.180) joined ##slackware. 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[16:54] I use citrix and run Outlook 2003 to access Exchange at my work [16:54] **from slackware 64 [16:54] brb [16:54] geckos (~user@189.121.5.105) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:54] Candinho (~Candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Quit: Fui embora [16:56] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:57] jfsantos (~user@unaffiliated/jfsantos) joined ##slackware. [16:58] jfsantos (~user@unaffiliated/jfsantos) left irc: Client Quit [16:59] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Client Quit [16:59] edthix (~edthix@110.159.93.24) joined ##slackware. [17:00] maddslacker (~corey@63-227-0-51.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: bye [17:00] edthix (edthix@110.159.93.24) left ##slackware. [17:00] Alan_Hicks: there is no decent linux client for exchange that runs on Slackware [17:00] You can use their Outlook Web Access if it was enabled [17:00] i think thats the way it should be [17:01] alienBOB: Thanks. [17:01] Using a citrix setup would work, but that will cost the company an awful lot of money [17:01] exchange has a broken api that 3rd party developers can barely get right [17:01] Spare box is easier. [17:01] Evolution does not even support the most recent Exchange server releases, and they try _hard_ [17:02] Alan_Hicks: Windows in a VM? [17:02] alienBOB: That's a possibility as well. [17:02] And then seamless Windows using an RDP server in the VM [17:03] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: bóra [17:04] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:06] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [17:06] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [17:06] j0z (~UNIX@201.22.41.164.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[17:31] http://www.vaguebuttrue.com/images/1242184160-david%20statue%20in%20usa.jpg [17:31] Hello, does anyone knows where I can find libccgnu2 ? (I'm trying to compile ccRTP library) [17:32] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] any shade, except fluxbox, can independently "play" shadow [17:33] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.145) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:33] ? [17:33] he it can not [17:34] fluxbox [17:34] P4C0: http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/commoncpp/ [17:34] xcompmgr? [17:35] mancha: thanks! [17:36] :) [17:37] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [17:37] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:37] hahaahha dios_mio, that's a replica of mancha [17:39] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:41] I found a slackbuild package for it... but it fails with invalid conversion from const char * to char * ... I didn't know that was invalid [17:42] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/commoncpp2/ [17:42] P4C0 sounds like gcc got more anal between the time the package was released and your gcc version [17:42] try a newer version of source [17:43] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:43] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [17:44] rheault (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] that's a glibc thing [17:44] it's the same thing that happens with urxvt [17:45] errr, gcc thing ^.^ (mancha is right) [17:45] Necos: It's OK. It's almost beer o'clock. [17:46] i'm copying ~400GB over a 100Mbps network... so i'm going insane >.<; [17:46] there's a new version, I'll try [17:46] 300GB, rather... [17:46] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:47] FriedBob: What's your timezone? It's too early for beer here :D [17:47] it's 245PM here, so perfect time for a beer [17:47] is it ever too early for beer? [17:47] niels_horn: Eastern, but my work schedule is based on central [17:47] Necos: That's work-time for me :( [17:47] Necos, that shouldn't take so long [17:47] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:47] who said anything about leaving work for a beer? [17:48] if you really wanna speed it up add a 2nd pair of nics and bond them [17:48] DOesn't evereyone keep a few ina hidden fridge at their desk? [17:48] mancha: My boss would say 245PM is too early for beer... [17:48] niels_horn: My boss would ask who's turn to buy? [17:48] Skywise, i wish i could ;-; [17:49] FriedBob: any jobs available? [17:49] niels_horn: No, but there will be 2 after we get canned by his boss... [17:49] lol [17:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] FriedBob: hehe... [17:50] alkos333: ping, where you going to maintain Glade instead of mwalling? [17:51] mm, no kde yet :( [17:51] Skywise: ever managed to bond two nics on a Windows (XP) box connected to a Slackware server? [17:52] the trick is not to let the windows box know you're doing it [17:52] I've done it in the past between *nix boxes... [17:52] i've never messed with bonding... [17:53] Skywise: how's that? Configure one IP on two nics on Windows?? [17:53] i would say i never had a use for it... i just never got the time from any of my bosses to actually muck with it on the school network here [17:53] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:54] Necos: it's nice for these situations where you need to copy large amounts of data over the network... But nowadays with Gbit cards it's not that necessary anymore... [17:54] r0d (~rod@201.22.148.28.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:55] i have GB cards on the servers, but all of our hardware is 100Mbps [17:55] niels_horn, its driver related, but you have to enable load balancing on those nics [17:55] hoi [17:56] it is sometimes one of those options that won't appear unless its possible [17:56] Skywise: uhm, I see.... I know next-to-nothing about Windows, just the normal user stuff... [17:56] you're better off that way [17:56] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:56] Skywise: That's what I think as well :) [17:56] cause you'd only be learning how do it the wrong way [17:57] hehehe [17:57] Skywise: whenever I try something more advanced on Windows I get frustrated... :D [17:58] you'd be better off learning it, teaching bill gates and then hoping it comes out in a future release [17:58] heh, very true [18:00] user_ (~user@0132700258.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:00] bigt guest [18:00] do qt apps use xdg-utils? [18:01] macavity [18:01] ups [18:03] user_ (~user@0132700258.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [18:03] SlackerD (~kvirc@pool-72-82-100-37.nrflva.btas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] macavity! \o/ [18:04] or charlotte, dunno... [18:06] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:08] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tpbnxbxswdagvwpj) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:10] SlackerD (~kvirc@pool-72-82-100-37.nrflva.btas.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Changing server... [18:13] latemus_ (~m@c-24-10-210-229.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] latemus (~m@c-67-161-249-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:14] whenever i try something on 10 year old linux distro i get frustrated. ohh, was that not the comparison? :) [18:14] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [18:17] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:17] that was a confession [18:19] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:23] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [18:25] e271 (~chatzilla@proxy2.whiteselectronics.com) joined ##slackware. [18:26] I am trying to find files modified in a specific year. Any tips on doing this with GNU find? [18:27] wait, I've done this before.. GNU find has an option to print meta data with the file name, then I can post-process the output to get it by year. [18:29] Nick change: [OpenSys] -> OpenSys [18:29] e271: yeah, grep is your friend [18:30] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [18:35] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:36] find . -type f -printf 'TY\t%h/%f\n' | grep ^$year | cut -f 2 [18:37] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [18:37] that's %TY [18:38] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Client Quit [18:40] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [18:40] ls -lR / | grep $YEAR [18:41] ls -lR cannot be piped to cpio, pax, tar, zip, etc. [18:41] you didn't ask for that [18:41] Action: mancha used to read minds [18:41] lol, too much beer, eh mancha? [18:42] mancha, no sweat, my question was already answered [18:42] cool [18:42] protip: ask waht you mean to ask :) [18:42] mancha: can you read my mind right now? [18:42] she's not 18 [18:43] hey guys, how should i upgrade aaa_elflibs (as it says "This package should be not upgraded or reinstalled") [18:43] adrien, yes, and your mom too! [18:43] little confusing [18:43] :P [18:43] phrag, don't upgrade. [18:43] installpkg ? [18:43] actually wasn't thinking about anything, too late, the brain is off ;-) [18:43] phrag, heh [18:43] you're fuckin' with me right? [18:43] phrag: upgrading/reinstalling will overwrite a bunch of libraries that exist in other packages [18:44] ah, that explains it =) [18:44] upgrading aaa_elflibs should be perfectly safe in current [18:44] so afaik, you can upgrade it but you'll also have to upgrade/reinstall the other packages too *after* [18:44] that wasn't the question sahk0 [18:44] sahk0 always answers other questions! [18:44] sorry [18:44] it's always dude! :) [18:44] yeh, thats what i was getting at tho [18:44] check it doesn't overwrite files with older versions [18:44] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:45] i always answer questions that comes next to the ones mancha does [18:45] Random question: how do i get to the Holida Inn off of Maple Street? Sahko: mix two lemons with some sugar and blend [18:45] http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/357688/intel-shows-off-first-light-peak-laptop [18:45] Late, but http://find.unixpin.com/ [18:45] mancha: if you throw that at everybody in the street, it'll probably work [18:45] i've no need to upgrade, was just checking if it was recommened or not, but now i see its purpose =) [18:46] maybe the slackbuild has some doc about it [18:47] actually the slack-desc [18:47] okay, brain really off, good night [18:47] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [18:47] http://connie.slackware.com/~mozes/docs/aaa_elflibs.txt [18:48] aaa_elflibs is just confusing people [18:48] oscillator (~oscillato@250.Red-79-147-180.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:48] sahk0: I guess that's what I was looking for =) [18:48] Aaaaaa.... Elfs. [18:48] yup, most probably if not definitely sure [18:49] Action: adrien throws an orc at byteframe [18:49] i dont install it and everyones happy [18:49] Action: adaptr sells byteframe a +5 shield of warding [18:49] though rarely that may not be a safe choice. [18:49] yup :-) [18:50] aaa_elf is an automobile association for very slender people with pointy ears [18:50] grebur (~grebur@79.114.227.143) joined ##slackware. [18:51] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:51] Action: adrien pats mancha on the head [18:51] grebur (~grebur@79.114.227.143) left irc: Client Quit [18:51] Action: mancha farts [18:51] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:52] HellDragon_ (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:52] never pat me on the head when i've eaten a big lunch... [18:52] jd (~jd@rocket.vel.lv) joined ##slackware. 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[19:00] dios_mio (test@88.241.140.99) joined ##slackware. [19:02] groo_ (~groo@201-26-125-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:02] groo_ (~groo@201-26-125-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [19:02] how is aaa_elflibs confusing? it says "dom't upgrade" [19:04] someone was gtalking about evolution earlier...has anyone build that for slackware? [19:04] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:05] prolly a laundry list of deps, was just curious as i might give it a shot tonight [19:05] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:06] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:06] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:07] shelldude (~kris@2001:700:303:4:219:21ff:fe3f:d230) joined ##slackware. [19:07] gah. what's the name of that thing wthat is similar to a newyears resolution, but you put your "newyears resolution" in a letter and stamp it shut and then open it next year or something... any synonym for this or is it just called newyears resolution? [19:08] ranzes (~ranzestam@189.115.62.172) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [19:12] shelldude (~kris@2001:700:303:4:219:21ff:fe3f:d230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:12] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:13] next year's resolution [19:15] i would exchange next year's resolution for next year's frame rate [19:16] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] Budd^ (~budd@99.152.134.161) joined ##slackware. [19:19] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [19:20] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:20] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:32] Nick change: user___ -> geckos [19:34] I'm the user___ [19:34] Action: jg71 dings tron [19:34] latemus_ (~m@c-24-10-210-229.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:35] garme (~garme@187.68.54.139) joined ##slackware. [19:38] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:38] ? [19:39] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [19:39] any idea? [19:40] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.42.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:40] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.46.212) joined ##slackware. [19:41] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:42] give ful error [19:42] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:44] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [19:44] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:59] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:01] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] tuvok302 (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-137.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:04] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:05] caixabox_ (~c9354157@gateway/web/freenode/x-reqpfgbxpbpgtpnq) joined ##slackware. [20:07] garme (~garme@187.68.54.139) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:10] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. [20:10] newslacker (~kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] musicbrainz used to be part of slackware? what happened? [20:17] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:17] foobarz: here's a guess, it got removed? [20:18] they got brainzed ? [20:18] wow that is amazing answers, you guys are great, thanks! [20:18] adaptr: perhaps they turned into musiczombiez and had no brainz. [20:18] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-15.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] it was that volkerdingzombie [20:19] that must be it! [20:20] foobarz: Have you checked the ChangeLog.txt to see when it was removed and why? [20:21] I can't see anything about musicbrainz [20:21] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.62.244) left irc: Quit: Elvis has left the building [20:22] which changelog are you looking at? [20:22] I looked at slackware-current for 32bit and 64bit [20:22] the "Changelog.txt" in my mirrrors [20:23] well, perhaps you could extend your most valiant effort and say .. look back a little bit further. [20:23] I think I might die first before I have a valiant effort [20:23] say .. try the 12.1 ChangeLog.txt and look for the entry for Wed Feb 20 17:45:37 CST 2008 [20:24] foobarz: well on that we can agree ;) [20:24] r0d (~rod@187.53.52.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:25] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:27] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:27] if slackware doesn't like musicbrainz, maybe i better not try to install it [20:27] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.104) joined ##slackware. [20:28] i was going to scrobble my xmms to last.fm, but it seems to need it [20:28] ranzes (~ranzestam@189.115.62.172) left irc: [20:28] first time install of slackware? [20:28] slackware killed my LAN1 port [20:29] I ran 12.1 and it scrobbled me good [20:30] slackware popped on my Intel 82574L's NVM, or Linux kernel did! [20:30] pooped too [20:30] mmhmm [20:30] I smell shit [20:30] foobarz: you're right, best not install slackware. [20:30] take care now, bye bye then. [20:30] foobarz: yeah, go to reactos... [20:30] foobarz: it's like windows, but smaller [20:31] and less functional [20:31] Should have been called 'porthole' [20:31] I been using slackware as long as you dark boys in here [20:31] adaptr: well, initially, yes, but it seems capable enough [20:32] foobarz: riiiiiight [20:32] jewbacca: by definition, since wine/whatever dont' support arbitrary windows applications (yet) [20:32] not all linux users are tek pros [20:33] i have slacked on my tek learning [20:33] adaptr: i didn't say that it did everything windows does...but it's more functional than the initial install [20:33] okay [20:33] foobarz: right, and yet you can't find something simple by searching through ChangeLog.txt. [20:34] veritos (veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:34] grep giveashit ChangeLog.txt [20:34] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] greetings and salutations [20:35] HNG [20:35] wotch andarius :) [20:35] wotcha BP{k} :) [20:36] I have a complete mirror of slackware-current 32bit and 64bit mirrored just a few hours ago, and the Changelog.txt must doesn't have musicbrainz in it... the changelog must not keep stuff past some point, like a release [20:36] heh. [20:36] does it have linuxbrainz? [20:37] I personally would think something like that, should be fairly obvious to someone running -current. [20:37] DaRkMuCk (~darkmuck@pool-98-117-240-86.hrbgpa.ftas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] BP{k}: is this shit for real? [20:37] Does it have Wings3D, cause that's all I care about right now. [20:37] jewbacca: I don't know. I am wonderinf if this is magic tea I am drinking. ;) [20:38] lol [20:38] BP{k}: i haven't been drinking any magic tea [20:38] it's magic pee [20:38] mancha, well, that explains the color. ;) [20:38] BP{k}: although a shot of bicardi 151 sounds good about now [20:38] it is NOT obvious to me! you think I know every detail of every piece of crap software! lol [20:38] jewbacca: hehe, indeed. [20:39] foobarz: no, but I expect someone who uses or want to use -current to at least have a decent amount of $CLUE, and thus not having to ask simple questions. [20:39] can't you give me a straight answer without the sarcasm! heh [20:39] foobarz: I already did. [20:40] foobarz: define old? [20:41] wait_time_before_pee_comes_out > 2.87 seconds [20:42] mancha: :) [20:42] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:43] r0d (~rod@187-6-37-237.ggs6102.3g.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:44] anyone here built evolution? [20:44] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:44] mancha: not in over a year [20:44] DaRkMuCk (~darkmuck@pool-98-117-240-86.hrbgpa.ftas.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:45] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:45] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [20:45] was it a pain? [20:46] mancha: if you call building gnome a pain... [20:46] doesn't it start with: "build or install gnome"? [20:46] BP{k}: s/or/and/ [20:47] ironically i have most (if not all) the gnome stuff. i was more concerned with things like mono et al [20:47] mancha: mono isn't that bad [20:48] i am really liking a lot of the apps coming out of the gnome project [20:49] i think it's time for slackware to get back in the gnome game :) [20:49] is gnome is bad as musicbrainz on slackware? [20:49] nahh. stay out of the gnome game and get out of the kde game too :P [20:51] Hey, if Slackware were to take the GSB boys in-house, I'd be game if they are. [20:51] mancha, I've been messing with gnome a bit myself lately, 2.30. [20:51] caixabox_ (~c9354157@gateway/web/freenode/x-reqpfgbxpbpgtpnq) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:52] fire, i've not played with the actual desktop env. but i like many of the apps "...for gnome" [20:52] I want to try to repair my broken Intel 82574L onboard LAN1/eth0. I have the EEPROM from ethtool -e eth1 > nvm.image. LAN1 and LAN2 are the same Intel 82574L chips. Can I use ethtool -f to burn the LAN2 EEPROM to LAN1 to fix LAN1? [20:52] evince is solid, abiword is great, etc.. [20:53] actually, ethtool -e eth1 raw on > nvm.image [20:53] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [20:53] mancha, yeah, there's some nice apps out there for it. [20:54] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [20:55] what may occur if I don't filter 6000 port and let it open ? is it dangerous ? [20:56] draeath (~draeath@draeath.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] maybe I'm missing something. Where did the RAID and LVM .txt files go? [20:56] that is where X listens for X-forwarding [20:56] r0d (~rod@187-6-37-237.ggs6102.3g.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:57] ? [20:57] ?? [20:57] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:57] ??? [20:57] ! [20:58] !! [20:58] !!! [20:58] _!_ [20:58] _!!_ [20:59] X-forwarding ... what does that do? [20:59] .!. [20:59] does that let you guys see my p0rn? [21:00] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [21:00] no, thats XXX forwarding [21:00] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:00] seriously, where did the LVM/RAID .txt files go that walk you through installing with software raid and/or LVM? [21:01] which version of slackware are you looking at? [21:01] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/ [21:01] oh I see. [21:01] I've heard that is possible to take screen shots remotaly through that door [21:01] this* [21:01] latemus (~m@c-24-10-210-229.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] but generally speaking: the 'root' of every mirror has them. [21:01] For some reason those files are not mirrored everywhere. [21:01] Action: draeath wonders why tds.net for instance wouldn't mirror a tiny .txt file... [21:02] you mean like: "ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/README_LVM.TXT" and "ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/README_RAID.TXT" [21:03] man xhost [21:03] look in slackware-13.0 [21:03] draeath: sounds like your system may be suffering from a wetware error/bug. [21:03] unless I'm REALLY blind, it's not there [21:03] those don't show up here either [21:03] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/README_RAID.TXT || ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/README_LVM.TXT [21:03] but my web browser sucks [21:03] w3m and elinks arn't showing them via http [21:03] draeath: better book that appointment soon. [21:04] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/README_RAID.TXT [21:04] so what, they have them in FTP but not HTTP? THat's almost as wtf [21:04] Action: andarius isnt going to spam the other link.... [21:04] rekonq doesn't show them either [21:04] incomplete mirrors suck [21:04] draeath: probably the way they have configured their http server not to show README* files. [21:04] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:04] s/probably// [21:04] at least he was looking ;) [21:04] that's apache fail++ [21:04] http does not show it because they have incorrectly (or defaulted) the config for apache [21:05] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:05] they are there but by default apache wont show files matching *READ* [21:05] Well as long as I'm not completely insane then. thanks :) [21:06] as proof ;) --> http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/README_RAID.TXT [21:06] and http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/README_LVM.TXT [21:07] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [21:07] draeath: not more than the rest of us ;) [21:08] ok one stupid question more. In less, these files have ^M all around them. What is that and how might I scrub it out? [21:08] its just annoying is all :P [21:11] yay for dos2unix being in the installer initrd [21:12] rogersman1 (~gr235423@nat/sun/x-kyormryossluzgxz) joined ##slackware. [21:13] hey all, just wondering if it's possible to set up autologin on runtime 3? [21:14] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:14] artmob (~arv6@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] draeath (draeath@draeath.net) left ##slackware. [21:17] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [21:18] latemus_ (~m@c-24-10-210-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] ~ [21:18] rockslinux (rockslinu@213.87.194.180) left ##slackware ("?"). [21:19] http://www.computing.net/answers/linux/autologin-to-runlevel-3/26703.html [21:19] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: life(); [21:19] andarius: cheers ;-) [21:20] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [21:20] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:20] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] latemus (~m@c-24-10-210-229.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:23] latemus_ (~m@c-24-10-210-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:25] NH has no sales tax, but it's got a prepared food tax [21:26] Wrong winder [21:28] artmob (~arv6@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:29] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:31] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [21:31] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6AD0C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Nick change: usus12jari -> Guest14056 [21:32] Action: andarius charges gartt channel tax !! [21:32] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: fui [21:33] geckos (~geckos@189.121.9.18) joined ##slackware. [21:33] andarius: Sorry, I'm in New Hampshire. Can't apply [21:34] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:34] big_bass (~big_bass@189.192.21.139) joined ##slackware. [21:34] goj (~goj@p4FE6A88C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:35] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:35] I'm searching samples boot time init scripts .. (I only can found rc.d scripts ant the wat between bsd and system v styles), any suggestion? [21:35] and the war * [21:35] channel tax is like federal tax, overides state and local :P [21:35] Shite. [21:36] Joke's on you; I'm paying it in recyclable cans and bottles [21:37] connect to my X-forward... what do you see? [21:38] nesv (~nick@CPE00222d67cb11-CM00222d67cb0d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:55] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:55] http://happypenguin.org/images/pipe-left.gif [21:55] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [21:56] Hey so I think it turns out that the max connection I can hold in ftp in DOlphin is 4, is that max with my host or with me? [21:56] riza, are you a girl? [21:57] Can anyone help? [21:57] it may be either. I am unfamiliar with Dolphin, but I do know ftp can limit a clients connection number [21:57] try another client to verify [21:57] andarius, sigh. [21:57] What other client are there? [21:58] for ftp? are you kidding? [21:59] Yes. [21:59] I don't use any other client thus don't remember. [21:59] then in answer to your second question, i can't help you [21:59] Naraku (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. [22:02] Naraku (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] Naraku (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:04] wawowe (wawowe@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-epyeqjvjinwfnjtb) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:05] riza is riker's favorite vacation spot [22:05] D: [22:05] Who is riker. [22:06] riza: s/who/where/ [22:06] http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Risa [22:06] oops, i spelled it wrong [22:07] estranho (~diogo@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:07] USS Enterprise-D first officer William T. Riker was very fond of Risa, and recommended that his captain, Jean-Luc Picard, visit the planet for shore leave in 2366. [22:07] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:07] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [22:08] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:08] riza: you might try fireftp and see whether it behaves differently [22:10] Sounds good because gftp sucks. [22:10] i use mc for ftp and scp =P [22:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:10] I use ncftp [22:11] ncftp has been around a long time, another contender is lftp [22:11] both good programs [22:12] schoene (~ms@cpe-24-93-236-57.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:14] oops, wrong channel [22:14] I like the part where Riker made sure that Picard got a specific statue for him, and it ended up being an advertisement for "Companionship" while on the planet :) [22:14] (talking about Risa) [22:14] macman_ (~macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. 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[22:31] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:32] no [22:33] adrien (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:34] adrien (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:36] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [22:36] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-254-194.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:37] straterra, i said something funny and clever about modern warfare 2, did you see it a while back? i forgot what i said [22:37] no [22:39] Before I get into mess, I should back-up my OS in a partition image format if it is posible. Do "partimage" will be the solution? [22:40] partimage is for resizing partitions, not backing up partitions [22:40] man dd [22:41] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-15.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:41] as for backing up a partition, I would just tar the user data into a file and not worry about programs (except for some program specific configs) [22:41] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:42] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:43] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-82.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [22:43] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-114-174-121.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:44] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-227.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] Is this the location of the user data " /home/"user data" ? or its has its other directory? [22:44] dfunct (~dfunct@74-130-178-43.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:45] users data is typically ~/ (~ [tilde] indicates user home directory) - you can look at /etc/passwd to see where their home directory is [22:46] by default, the root user (admin) is /root, and users are /home/(user login name) [22:46] so mine (login kenr) for a standard installation would be /home/kenr [22:52] making a backup as "tar" for "/home/(user data") backups the system? [22:52] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:55] dios_mio (test@88.241.140.99) joined ##slackware. [22:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:55] "tar" is used to group files/directories into a single file (like a slackware package - with compression when specified) [22:56] backing up the system would be the other directories where programs and other stuff is located [22:57] directories you _don't_ want to backup are /dev, /sys, and /proc since they contain live syste/kernel stuff, but the other directories may be backed up - just not needed since a system change would require changing a lot of those things anyway [22:57] troys (~troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:02] troys (~troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:05] thnk u [23:06] rockslinux (~rockslinu@213.87.194.78) joined ##slackware. [23:07] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:07] nesv (nick@CPE00222d67cb11-CM00222d67cb0d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [23:07] hey [23:07] I'm running currnet [23:07] are you? [23:09] foobarz: so? [23:09] i hope you have to pay a for that oil spill [23:10] a lot [23:10] nah :) [23:10] i thought they didn't let the dummies in till thursday [23:10] If slack linux wont load or boot... restoring backups will help? [23:11] gades (~gades@190.33.62.4) joined ##slackware. [23:11] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [23:11] datace1: depends on what's broken. [23:11] GooseYAr1 (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:12] datace1, typically, if it's installed just won't boot, there are ways to boot the install cd and check/fix [23:13] for example, slackware had a change from 13.0 to -current that changed the drives from /dev/hdX to /dev/sdX and if you didn't follow the upgrade notes properly, you could boot the install cd and fix after installing [23:13] dios_mio (test@88.241.140.99) left irc: Quit: We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. [23:14] hey, to be able to access uk-based sites via my home machine (in the uk) would all i need be something like squid? [23:14] rogersman1: yes [23:15] http://www.moneyfactory.gov is still down [23:15] until yesterday it was serving malicious wares to visitors - eek [23:16] alisonken1home - you mean the slackware 13 cd installer? [23:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] ananke: I just happened to spy some proxy software installed by default with slack...wondered if i could do it with that stuff [23:18] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [23:18] the internet is failed you can't access uk sites in the uk? [23:19] datace1 (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [23:19] foobarz: haha..no digital economy bill no prohibits all net usage from within the uk :-p [23:19] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:20] sounds failed [23:20] and poor [23:21] is that bill giving you money now? [23:22] you are getting billed [23:23] nah, but if i get busted d/l ing stuff 3 times, my net access is cut and I'm fined...theoretically...tho hasn't happened yet [23:23] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [23:23] just made law 2 weeks ago [23:23] oh you are going to get billed [23:24] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [23:25] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:26] better to use uuid than sdXY [23:26] in fstab [23:26] alisonken1home i think you were thinking about parted (gparted) earlier. partimage is indeed a partition backup app. it is quite good...getting closer to Ghost actually [23:27] the internet needs a new wireless revolution and private world wide networks that are dynamically created [23:27] a few limitations though, like inability to restore to a smaller sized partition even though space is not an issue [23:27] the internet sucks [23:27] clonezilla <-' [23:27] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:27] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: peace [23:27] I use clonezilla at work, few minutes I restore a machine [23:27] never used clonezilla. can it restore to a smaller geometry? [23:28] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-245.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:28] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:28] it saves/restores full hdd or partitions [23:29] loading clonezilla via pxe and saving via nfs [23:29] nice tool for any admins [23:30] what do you need to running on the client for updates? [23:30] er have running [23:31] an ethernet to boot or a cdrom drive [23:31] it loads into ram like livecd [23:32] no one likes people like us who sit on the internet... soon we are "internet addicts" and psychos, and (c) voilators, problems of society... doomed! [23:33] http://www.clonezilla.org/ [23:33] Will clonezilla clone to a local USB drive? [23:36] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-132.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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