[00:07] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [00:07] slackboy joined ##slackware. [00:07] furthermore trying to switch from mutt/slrn/snownews to all those default kde apps kmail/knode etc [00:07] groundbraking [00:08] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [00:08] sahko: you have notified the emergency services of this? [00:09] donoban (i=1000@77.211.80.168) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:09] sahko: haha, what de/wm did you use before? Why the switch? [00:10] fire|bird: i switched to xfce in june after installing slack64. before that it was 2 years of dwm/ratpoison/xmonad [00:10] you'll switch to kde in less than a month :) [00:10] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] wow, that's quite a switch then. [00:11] http://omploader.org/vMmg0Yg <---my desktop, kde 4.3.1 [00:11] yay, slackboy is back [00:11] hey nachox [00:11] hey fire|bird [00:11] sahko: you've gone insane ;) [00:11] tidepool [00:11] fitting for KDE [00:11] ;P [00:12] arg clicking on a link in irssi, and open downloads the picture wtf [00:12] the tide comes in and out but all the crap just sort of stays there [00:12] *in konsole [00:12] haha, konqueror sahko? [00:13] fire|bird: yeah ,better than firefox [00:13] fire|bird: is that button to remind you what distro you're running? ;p [00:13] godling: haha, no. [00:13] I understand people dress up their screenshots :P [00:13] that was one of the reasons i am trying kde. konqeror is nice, and firefox is too bloated [00:13] this is gonna take quite to get used to. [00:13] LOL [00:14] rofl [00:14] firefox is "bloated", but you like KDE....??? ROFL [00:14] sahko: urxvt works fine [00:14] yah [00:14] that is kinda funny :) [00:14] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428723.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:14] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428723.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:15] nice desktop fire|bird [00:15] Rat409: thanks. [00:16] I like the wallpaper [00:17] did you take that photo fire|bird? [00:18] there are some pretty cool tidepools at Laguna Niguel beach in Southern California that I am really partial to. [00:18] danc3: i didnt say i like kde. i am trying to start using it. i consider it one of the very few opensource projects, along with slackware, having development that makes sense. [00:18] BP{k}: that sounds good.. The beer in the keg is the red ale i made. It smelled good pouring it into the keg. [00:18] godling: no, I wish I had. It's from interfacelift: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/2037/rocks.html [00:18] sahko: heh, ok [00:19] hrmm...only thing i had to start was apache [00:19] good good [00:19] oh, and the bot [00:19] fire|bird: cool. laguna beach: http://www.searchsouthoc.com/images/lagbeachtidepool1.jpg [00:20] but right now i seem to have no sound for some reason [00:20] fire|bird: once I got caught out there when the tide was coming in. I had to run and make a jump to the fence that surrounds them. [00:20] agentc0re: sweet .. let me know how it taste :) [00:20] mk_ (n=nunes@187.41.75.55) joined ##slackware. [00:20] godling: haha. That's a cool photo. [00:21] fire|bird: there are lots more areas cooler than that [00:21] fire|bird: http://clancy.me/imgs/2008/05/DSC05361_large.jpg [00:22] fire|bird: I don't know those people but that illustrates how high the walls can get [00:22] godling: have you built dictd by other means yet? [00:22] wow [00:23] slakmagik: no, I'm just using dict to access dict.org [00:23] oh wait [00:23] yeah I did grab it manually [00:23] dictd isn't working but dict is (go figure) [00:24] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:24] well, I can't help with the package itself but the problem with the build was a non-standard url [00:24] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:25] so it seems that'll get fixed in the next SBo updates - but if you hadn't built it yet, you could work around it. But since you've got it, nevermind. :) [00:26] yeah, I even emailed the maintainer about a bug in the package scripts [00:26] :) [00:26] Action: godling is an industrious little nerd. [00:26] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: "The 7 Deadly Sins: compartilhe o momento, compartilhe a vida!   [www.t7ds.com.br]" [00:26] s/little// [00:26] indeed :P [00:27] yeah, I saw that [00:28] I always hope people don't get angry when I suggest fixes for their projects. [00:28] BP{k}: you been talking to your mom? [00:28] ;P [00:29] godling: no, your mom was in the way blocking the connection with her own gravity well. :P [00:29] if they do, in most cases they probably shouldn't be running projects ;) [00:29] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.125) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:29] all roads lead to moms [00:29] moms are omnipresent [00:29] I prefer roads leading to noms. ;) [00:30] gnomes! [00:30] wait [00:30] are gnomes edible? [00:30] yes, they are [00:30] they taste like chicken [00:31] http://chucksigars.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/david.jpg [00:31] you may as well eat them, they laugh at you [00:31] I had some for lunch just last week [00:31] little bastards [00:33] hi [00:33] Action: spook runs away [00:34] godling "all roads lead to mom" that's funi [00:34] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] Quiznos: It made me think of Laurie Anderson [00:35] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:35] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [00:36] whodat? [00:36] http://www.asklyrics.com/display/laurie-anderson/o-superman-lyrics.htm [00:36] k [00:36] SIGBUS (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:36] she's a really cool performance artist [00:36] married to Lou Reed [00:36] ah [00:36] Lou Reed the musician? [00:37] yes [00:37] Walk on the Wildside? [00:37] also has his own talk show on XM now [00:37] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:37] He's still alive? [00:38] yes mingdao :P [00:38] does anyone know why i may only have sound from pcspkr [00:38] ? [00:38] sahko: open up a mixer and check that your sound levels are all unmuted [00:38] need modules? [00:39] godling's too [00:39] and all the way up [00:39] it only doesnt work in kde [00:39] chk alsamixer [00:39] maybe some sound server is starting with kde and messing with it? [00:40] I don't run kde, I dunno sorry [00:40] yea [00:40] Quiznos: o superman is a good laurie anderson song if you've never heard her before. also "in our sleep" [00:40] k [00:40] she actually does that one with mr. reed [00:41] she did some william s. burroughs too, "language is a virus" [00:41] nods [00:42] heritech (i=heritech@not.drunk.anymore.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] Miroku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] hey sahko, have you ever emailed pat security issues/patches/etc ? [00:45] Linux should include FBUI to replace X [00:45] mancha: yeah. i got mentioned in the ChangeLog! :P [00:45] congrats [00:45] but usually he doesnt reply. only when there is something wrong [00:45] Kidpunkx (n=kidpunkx@adsl-235-197-44.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] interesting, i emailed him a week ago and have not heard anything [00:46] hello all um.. on slackware 12.2 how can i install my wifi? [00:46] Kid, too broad, work on he Q [00:46] about a security issue (gnutls), i would have expected a reply though [00:47] dont know why you didnt get one [00:47] yeah, i also cc'd security@ which i presume goes to a few other as well [00:47] meanwhile, slack's gnutls is still vulnerable [00:48] Miroku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:48] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:48] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.77.193) joined ##slackware. [00:49] Kidpunkx: have you read the slackbook? [00:49] mancha: the only times i got a reply from Pat, i had also mentioned the issue to rworkman and/or alienBOB as well. i dont know if that coincidental or not [00:49] Kidpunkx: www.slackbook.org [00:49] sahko, maybe that helped but sounds inefficient [00:49] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:49] Kidpunkx: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wireless_networks [00:50] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.77.193) left irc: Client Quit [00:50] mindbndr, i will read it [00:50] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:51] sahko, i wonder if it makes sense to blog this stuff insteads [00:51] mancha: what is the vulnerability? I just built at least two packages using gnutls this week [00:52] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-1-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] ming, i'll be starting a blog i think, i'll let you know [00:53] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:53] ming the merciless :P [00:54] kuzetsa (n=changuar@adsl-074-167-215-159.sip.sdf.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] kuzetsa (n=changuar@adsl-074-167-215-159.sip.sdf.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [00:54] woahkay [00:54] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) joined ##slackware. [00:55] short answer, a bad person could spoof a cert and gnutls would not know it was spoofed allowing a m-it-m [00:55] m-i-t-m [00:56] mingdao: never seen defenders of the earth? [00:56] how long have you been over in .cn? :P [00:59] godling: no [00:59] I don't even have a clue what that would be. [00:59] left Amurika on 2002.05.01 [00:59] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.56.149) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:59] newbie (n=Salme200@41.252.35.68) joined ##slackware. [00:59] mingdao: it's Flash Gordon [00:59] mingdao: Ming the Merciless is like his archnemesis [00:59] what's Flash Gordon? The 50's comic strip? [00:59] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@66.249.5.45) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:59] yes [00:59] Defenders of the Earth was a 1980s remake [01:00] is it going to be a big mess as my employer is asking to me study RHEL while i'm already trying to survive with Slackware? [01:00] newbie: like your job? [01:00] Defenders also had the Phantom, Mandrake the Magician, [01:00] yes mingdao [01:00] and some other people [01:00] stupid enter key [01:00] Mandrake ... is that where they got the distro name from? [01:01] newbie: study it and don't worry [01:01] i like slackware distro but the company wants to RHEL [01:01] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [01:01] I don't know [01:01] Mandrake is also a kind of dragon iirc [01:01] newbie, linux is linux. don't believe the hype. they just differ in default configs and politics (mainly) [01:01] newbie: they probably want support [01:01] politics suck [01:01] I do it for the chick [01:01] they differ in a lot more ways than that... [01:01] like mancha said ... and they might have some binaries compatible with RHEL [01:01] rhel is solid stuff, i don't envision any problems [01:02] Linux is the kernel ... RHEL hacks it ;) [01:02] mancha: *barf* [01:02] newbie: Slackware was (not as much anymore) a hacker's distro. [01:02] newbie: It was released kinda "bare bones" and you did with it what you want. [01:02] actually, if you look at % contributions to the actual mainlined kernel, redhat has the biggest (or top 2-3) share [01:02] what is the hacker's distro? [01:02] newbie: That is not the philosophy behind RHEL. [01:03] so we, slackers, should stay silent on that front as i think the official contrib is 0% [01:03] newbie: enterprise ... it's made for the enterprise market, and they change a lot of stuff to suit their support/philosophy desires [01:03] mancha: look who is on their payroll? [01:03] for real! [01:03] mancha: I would think SuSE as as many or more now [01:03] mingdao++ [01:04] Someone has to pay good coders ... [01:04] ming, thats fine. but their contribs are indpependent of linus being a shareholder [01:04] and on that note [01:04] bing badda bing [01:04] the Linux on all the machines at my Uni is Fedora core [01:04] and yes, i agree, its easier to contrib a lot of you pay a team of devs. but the fact remains, tey are one of the biggest contributors to the progress of the linux kernel. [01:05] if it's like that in other places as well then students will just get used to Fedora and then BAM. They're locked in. [01:05] stupid sheeple [01:05] newbie: one of the Slackware core team members works for a company who supports other types of Linux distros besides Slackware. [01:05] newbie: But that did not keep him from learning Slackware, and also the other distros that he must support. [01:06] newbie: just more to learn ... and ... it will make you stronger ;) [01:06] newbie: You probably won't find many guys making a living at an IT job supporting Slackware. [01:06] i don't think you'll have any problem piking up rhel if you already are familiar with another distro (in this case slackware) [01:06] thanks mingdao ... your words are really helping :D [01:06] mingdao: http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv245/tommyspring/20070920-ming-the-merciless.jpg [01:06] mingdao: you've got the goatee [01:06] nefarious! [01:06] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] newbie: But ... running Slackware and learning it well will be good for you IMO. [01:07] newbie, and you might even like it...i know a lot of people who like redhat (and fedora the bastard child gone wild) [01:08] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] newbie: We all (almost) usually have to do/learn/adapt something for our job that is not our first choice. [01:08] newbie: If you want to learn Slackware you're going to beat yourself up over stuff you don't know but once you figure it out you'll be on cloud nine. [01:08] Anyone good here with networking? [01:08] Motoko-chan: I don't know. Ask if anyone here is good with computers? [01:08] lol [01:08] newbie: But keep a good attitude about RHEL, and learn it well, and advance in your career. [01:08] networking is a vast subject [01:08] I need to do some IP translation/rerouting locally. [01:08] Motoko-chan: depends upon what you mean [01:08] Well, I have a machine behind NAT. [01:08] so you want to bridge two connections or what? [01:08] Motoko-chan: ask you question ... if someone knows, they'll answer [01:08] I need to make it so that when the machine tries to contact the public IP, it is routed to the private IP. [01:09] And it has to be done on the box itself. It seems DNS Doctoring isn't working. [01:09] when the machine behind the nat? this should be done automatically [01:09] Okay, better explanation [01:09] by all means [01:09] I have a script that accesses a site for contents to put in an e-mail. [01:09] www.heroesofnewerth.com anyone want a beta invite? [01:09] The site is on the same machine [01:10] However, it connects by DNS name. [01:10] i have 2 [01:10] Which resolves to the public IP. [01:10] When the script tries to connect, it hangs. [01:10] I have two solutions: [01:10] juice: is it any good? [01:10] i think you mean the port forwarding motoko [01:10] godling: his goatee is just slightly longer than mine atm [01:10] yes [01:10] 1) Completely rewrite the script to go to IP and send the right host header [01:10] i like it a lot [01:10] juice: does it work on Linux? [01:10] newbie (n=Salme200@41.252.35.68) left irc: [01:10] very good graphics [01:10] runs nice in linux [01:10] is the listener smart? cause that should be done fine. [01:10] and mac and windows [01:10] 2) Somehow make the connection to the public IP get smacked back to the private. [01:11] This is all behind the NAT, so port forwarding isn't the solution. [01:11] probably not so great on my intel gma x3100 [01:11] the thing should route automatically to loopback [01:11] juice: I wish I had time to get into a new game [01:11] i think the problem lies in your listener, apache mayhaps [01:11] Not easily. I have a few thousand domains. [01:11] i wasted 150 matches at 36 min avg so far [01:11] I can't just add to hosts, or a private DNS server. [01:12] Rat409: do you use urxvt on a machine you ssh into and use screen? [01:12] no just my laptop but you could [01:13] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:13] Basically, I want to find a way to route connections to a specific public IP to a private IP. [01:13] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [01:14] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:14] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [01:19] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] \o/ [01:19] Nobody? [01:19] Action: Motoko-chan sighs [01:20] Rat409: I had some issues with it that way, but forgot. I'm rebooting the server, so I'll try again. [01:20] Motoko-chan: are you meaning you want to do like a dynamic ip address thing? [01:20] No, just selective routing. [01:21] I have a server. [01:21] fire|bird: daddy's back \o/ [01:21] It has a script that connects to an assigned domain to get some e-mail contents. [01:21] That domain is on the same server. [01:21] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:21] However, the resolution is to a public address. [01:21] Motoko-chan: ah ok, then i have no idea :-/ [01:22] I want to set it so the machine will talk to itself over the private IP. [01:22] I can't do DNS adjustments, there are too many domains (over 2k). [01:22] Motoko-chan: by chance you did not call your ISP earilier :) [01:22] And I really don't want to re-write the perl script. [01:22] kitche, I did. [01:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:23] They enabled DNS Doctoring, but it isn't working 100% [01:23] ah just sounds like something I did earilier nothing to do with DNS though [01:23] It seems to work if there is a direct A record, but not a CNAME. [01:23] does rsync delete automatically? [01:23] rsync -avr ? [01:24] or do you have to call --delete ? [01:24] You have to explicitly tell it to delete [01:24] blah no ones home [01:24] ah [01:24] deco: link to your web page? [01:25] mingdao: never got it done lol, i figured why i couldn't , i was going the fast way using drupal it was limiting me, so my solution was to finally learn php and mysql....... [01:25] deco [01:25] looks like you're off the crack [01:26] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [01:26] check out php classes [01:26] jeev: yup , I'm normal again :) [01:26] mingdao: yeah reading some ebooks and online articles [01:26] yea i desperately need to learn php and shit [01:26] deco, if you find an ebook that helped you [01:26] articles that helped, let me know [01:26] jeev: ok , just php or mysql too ? [01:27] both [01:27] jeev: ok i got a good one, let me find it [01:28] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:28] deco: http://www.phpclasses.org/ [01:28] CcSsNET_ (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] jeev: no need to learn shit ... just squat and let her rip [01:29] mingdao: thanks! [01:30] i'll do that over your face and make a new rkelly video [01:30] bbiab [01:31] <_guitarman_> hey yo - any slackware64 13.0 multilibbers around here? [01:31] meaning? [01:32] Action: _guitarman_ wondering if just changing the slackbuild script to i486 instead of x8x_64 will get skype going [01:32] <_guitarman_> i did the alienBOB multilib thing just now [01:32] _guitarman_: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/multilib-slackware64/ [01:32] <_guitarman_> but wonder how to get skype installed [01:32] <_guitarman_> mingdao: just did that [01:32] Pretty much covers everything. [01:32] installpkg skype [01:32] have you built the skype pkg yet? [01:33] <_guitarman_> mingdao: no - i am wondering about the slackbuild - sbopkg [01:33] <_guitarman_> do i modify it [01:33] <_guitarman_> or will it know what to do [01:33] you want a skype pkg? [01:33] <_guitarman_> hmmm i guess i can download static [01:33] Motoko-chan: when you say the domain is on the server, you are confusing me [01:34] in this context doesn't a domain mean a subnet? [01:35] _guitarman_: just install alienBOB's skype-2.0.0.72-i686-1 [01:36] _guitarman_: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [01:36] <_guitarman_> mingdao: thx [01:36] np [01:36] did cg999 ever fix his/her kernel ? [01:36] works on Slack 64 w/multilib for me [01:36] who cares? [01:36] superGear: no [01:36] :P [01:36] godling, give me a sec and I'll try to be more clear [01:37] superGear: as an exercise in futility, I am building one like he should have done, and will post the entire shmoo for him ;) [01:37] all I have left to do is reboot ... but it's my server [01:37] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:37] <_guitarman_> mingdao: thx - its workign [01:37] <_guitarman_> working [01:37] i just build 2.6.31.1 and works just fine [01:37] built [01:37] _guitarman_: if you get the mic on a ThinkPad T61 working with Skype please let me know. [01:37] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) joined ##slackware. [01:38] so cg999 In your face! [01:38] hi:) [01:38] pffft. skype is for people who like to talk to other people [01:38] that's so 20th century [01:38] godling, you like talking to people [01:38] or you wouldn't be here [01:38] superGear: not using my voice, duh [01:38] Okay, from the top [01:39] I have a server. It is on a static 1-to-1 NAT. [01:39] godling, we all know you talk as you type [01:39] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:39] superGear: you can't hear me! [01:39] It runs a script that delivers newsletters. The content is found by getting contents of "http://domain_here/somethingelse" [01:39] Now, domain_here resolves to the server's public IP (so people can, you know, view the site) [01:40] gotcha [01:40] But I need to connect to the private IP. [01:40] I can't just add a hosts entry or special DNS. We're looking at 2k+ domains. [01:40] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [01:41] I'm looking, and it seems like I might be able to do something like: [01:41] [root@real-server]# iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 10.10.20.99 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.14.2 [01:41] winstonw (n=user@24.245.62.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:43] Any ideas? [01:43] jeev: you there ? [01:43] Will that work? [01:49] macius (n=macius@i209-195-74-195.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:49] Motoko-chan: that looks about right [01:52] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [01:52] ah. so when the packets enter nat and they are going to 10.10.20.99, if the original destination differs from the reply source then route those packets to 10.10.14.2 [01:53] Motoko-chan: let me know if that works, it's neat [01:53] Saw info at http://linux-ip.net/html/nat-dnat.html [01:53] Will be trying now. [01:53] sirmacik (i=sirmacik@host-86-63-158-4.nplay.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:53] pomysl (n=bolek@host-86-63-158-4.nplay.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [01:54] If it doesn't work, looks like I'll be playing with rewriting LWP::Simple code to use plain LWP. [01:54] it's so hard finding books are tutorials on creating a cms with php and mysql :/ [01:54] Motoko-chan: I think I got you now, both machines are within the same private domain? [01:54] they never go to the details [01:55] wait, no [01:55] or tutorials * grrr [01:55] those are both public IPs, never mind [01:55] U2 (n=as@203.99.174.174) joined ##slackware. [01:55] Nick change: adeodatus -> aigon [01:56] obviously both machines are on different subnets, but you said they're in the same domain? [01:56] godling, they are the same machine [01:56] so you're using ip aliasing? [01:57] PM? [01:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@97-94-111-202.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:58] I don't want to flood channel [01:58] if it's a paste use a paste bin. otherwise just talk. nobody's saying anything anyways. :) [01:58] deco: mysql is for jerks. use postgres [01:59] godling: .... [01:59] Okay. [01:59] haha :P [01:59] So, this is part of a website system. [01:59] godling: :P [01:59] One part of the system allows customers to set up newsletters for their customers. [01:59] godling, deco ..... [01:59] This script sends out pending newsletters. [01:59] U2: bono ? [01:59] just a fan [02:00] U2: bloody sunday!... [02:00] To do so, it looks up the content by hitting the site's website and pulling the page source code. [02:00] the ground beneath her feet [02:00] The website is on the same server. [02:00] U2: :O [02:00] But the DNS for those domains/sites is to the public IP (obviously). [02:00] However, for some reason, Cisco's DNS Doctoring sucks. [02:00] uva (i=bno@118-168-236-24.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:00] So i need to either [02:01] 1) rewrite the script to force and IP and manually set the host header [02:01] 2) get it to connect to the private ip. [02:01] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-237-198.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:01] I think 2 will be easier. [02:01] I really don't want to do a rewrite of the perl script. [02:01] oh, you're using a Cisco router? [02:01] :/ [02:01] I try to compile my kernel and i don't know driver is required for my disk controller. [02:02] godling, it's what Rackspace is using. [02:02] Found a possible solution using ip route command... [02:03] deco: MySQL doesn't support Unicode fully. [02:04] godling: well I'm a total noob at databases so ...i'll get in to the *others* later :P [02:04] deco: postgres has a cooler mascot :P [02:04] godling: goes well with php :P [02:05] php sucks balls [02:05] I don't know why Youtube uses it [02:05] godling: >_> [02:05] Action: deco fades to the background [02:05] mk_ (n=nunes@187.41.75.55) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:06] http://www.coelho.net/php_cve.html [02:06] PHP is *secure* [02:07] godling: let me guess you use perl right ? [02:07] :P [02:07] and python [02:07] I have used php though [02:07] godling: well i gotta learn my first one :P [02:07] learn perl! [02:07] :D [02:08] godling: latter :P [02:08] or python. [02:08] the world needs less php developers [02:08] godling: django ? is that of your interest ? [02:08] godling: but php gives one money... [02:08] Nope, still no idea [02:08] init[0]: I am really not a web developer. I haven't used Django. [02:09] I have used web.py though :P [02:09] only a little [02:09] aah,assumed you to be :) [02:09] godling: ah see that's why , you aren't a web developer :P [02:09] not professionally [02:09] How to find out what driver disk controller required? [02:09] I have written interactive stuff on personal sites [02:09] /cl [02:10] Rat409: again ? [02:10] :P [02:10] aigon: check the moudles loaded, [02:10] unfortunately :( [02:10] Rat409: it's like everyday lol [02:10] for the vanila kernel you use, [02:10] deco: sad but true [02:10] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1] [02:10] godling, what do you think about Java as a language for web development? [02:11] U2: *barf* [02:11] U2: that maked web slower D [02:11] U2: no comments.... [02:11] Action: deco walks out [02:11] Action: init[1] pulls back deco in .. [02:11] init[0]: how to check moudles loaded? [02:11] init[1]: :) [02:11] lsmod [02:11] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-230-162.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:11] write all your cgi in ksh :P [02:11] aigon: pastebin mod, [02:11] :) ok [02:11] godling: :P [02:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:12] aigon: or you can find it from *dmesg* [02:13] i was working in PHP as an internee... but now they have given me some work in Java, I hate it.. [02:13] can someone suggest to me what motoko-chan might have been doing? [02:13] aigon: grep | hdx / sdx or smthing, [02:13] U2: web stuff? [02:13] U2: have you got experience with Java? [02:13] Action: init[1] away [02:14] http://dpaste.com/102217/ [02:14] i dont want to .. but its a job [02:14] U2: are you at least getting paid ? :P [02:14] sure, U2. [02:14] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) left ##slackware. [02:14] yes [02:14] U2: ok not so bad than :) [02:15] U2: I mean do you know how to write secure code with Java or did they just hand it to you and say "figure this out"? [02:15] companies like to do that [02:15] please look at this link http://dpaste.com/102217/ [02:16] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: "leaving" [02:17] sayed (n=sayed@129-97-220-126.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:18] Is it possible for me to get a Slackware64 install media that isn't a dvd iso? I don't want a lot of the packages Slackware offers on the cd, just a barebone working system. [02:18] they just sort of told me to figure it out... [02:18] and I haven't found a good book on Java yet [02:19] I've read books on PHP, Python and they are _really_ good... [02:19] sayed: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [02:19] but either Java sucks or I have not found a good book yet, [02:19] sayed: run it with -h, to know more [02:19] Bruce Eckel's book I did not liked much [02:20] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:20] aigon: that doesn't help to find the driver for the disk controller, [02:20] init[1]: Thank you. [02:20] aigon: i mean it doen't have the info atm, [02:20] sayed: yw, [02:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [02:21] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:21] aigon: do a *df* [02:21] tell if its hdx or sdx [02:22] /dev/sda10 [02:22] are you sure you pastebined the entire lsmod o/p ? [02:23] trimmer (n=trimmer@71-213-239-229.cdrr.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:23] yeah , i think [02:23] aigon: pastbin dmesg | grep controller [02:24] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [02:24] oops, [02:24] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [02:24] wb mingdao [02:24] lspci |grep -i controller ? [02:25] thanks init[1] [02:25] Rat409: yea ,i nearly forgot about that, [02:25] back into urxvt [02:26] anyone ever messed with software raided iSCSI? [02:26] not me [02:26] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-37-173.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:27] cg999: I have your new kernel guide. ;) [02:27] Last login: Sun Oct 4 14:13:30 2009 from silas64.servantsofyeshua.org [02:27] Linux 2.6.31.1-smp. [02:27] please take a look at this link http://dpaste.com/102218/ [02:28] rhys: software RAID but not iSCSI [02:28] aigon: what is it? [02:28] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@24-148-91-219.c3-0.stk-ubr1.chi-stk.il.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. [02:28] could be ascii art of your naked aunt for all we know [02:29] I swear I'm going senile at 26. I just figured out how to create a batch of directories on the cli with mkdir and brackets, but I can't remember any more [02:29] Bl0tt0: look in your .bash_history [02:30] sirmacik (i=sirmacik@host-86-63-158-4.nplay.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:30] Bl0tt0: subdirectories under the main directory? [02:30] Bl0tt0: history|grep blah [02:30] I tried that, entered mkdir + [CTRL+r] and can't find it any more [02:31] Bl0tt0: maybe you haven't logged out and logged in yet? [02:31] grep the history for mkdir :P [02:32] yeah, that's what I did, but I guess it's far enough in the past it's out of my history [02:32] Bl0tt0: are you trying to make subdirectories under the main directory? [02:32] pomysl (n=bolek@host-86-63-158-4.nplay.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:33] U2: sorry, I was away. just do your best with Java then; if they get insecure code then they deserve it :) [02:33] godling: lol [02:34] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-56.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:34] U2: Bruce Eckel is alright. I am using a textbook for my Data Structures class that is OK for a Java book. [02:34] U2: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~main/dsoj.html [02:35] that's a data structures in java book, not a how to program in Java book [02:35] so, perhaps a guru could help me with this: I'm trying to create a maildir structre where the directories reflect the 4 quarters of every year from 2003-2009 (ie 200[3-9]_Q[1-4]) [02:35] aigon: and? [02:35] I did it once on the command line, but I can't remember how I did it [02:38] I try to compile a new kernel and i dont know what driver disk controller requierds. [02:38] aigon: sata_via [02:38] almost positive [02:38] aigon: are you in a running Slackware system now? [02:39] yes, i run slack 13.0 [02:39] aigon: issue "lspci -v" and it will tell you which driver it's using atm [02:40] aigon: did you also have to issue "nomsi" to get the Slackware installer to see your drives? [02:41] cuba33ci_ (i=cuba33ci@114-45-233-230.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@66.249.5.45) joined ##slackware. [02:43] nomsi it doesn't work. [02:43] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [02:43] you did not have to issue that? [02:43] aigon: did you see the driver with the "lspci -v" command? [02:43] yes [02:43] and it was? [02:44] Bl0tt0: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7171 [02:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:46] Rat409: which font do you use in urxvt? [02:47] godling, you are a lifesaver! [02:47] Bl0tt0: learn to google :P [02:47] mingdao: terminus 10 normally [02:47] terminus ftw [02:48] I'll have to try it ... presently using 8x16bold [02:48] 14 though [02:48] I like my eyesight [02:48] :P [02:48] it looks very nice and with English, but not with Chinese [02:48] terminus is all about Unicode mingdao [02:49] Ií [02:49] I've been googling, trying to find "sequential directories in bash" didn't work, nor "mkdir batch directories", nor several other tricks I tried [02:49] mingdao: please take a look at this link http://dpaste.com/102221/ [02:49] godling: what do you put for -fn "8x16bold" using terminus? [02:49] wen hus [02:49] hua [02:49] mingdao: I put it in .Xdefaults [02:49] ` „¨l [02:49] yes, I see that [02:49] I don't speak Chinese though [02:49] :) [02:50] URxvt*font:xft:Terminus:pixelsize=14:antialias=true [02:50] that's what I am using [02:50] my Chinese fonts are so small I can't always read them [02:50] aigon: sata_via [02:50] I'll try that [02:50] make it larger if you'd like, that first glyph was a bit blurry [02:50] terminus kinda hurts my eye [02:50] i use light weight xfce terminal, [02:50] aigon: you also need pata_via [02:50] mingdao: fwiw http://pastebin.com/d5a743615 my .Xdefaults [02:50] I use rxvt-unicode [02:51] :D [02:51] i saves us all kinda termianl PITA's [02:51] 96 dpi too [02:51] it^ [02:51] same here [02:51] aigon: df -T says what for / ? [02:51] Ií/"ž, Ní/ïž, - q/-ýÝ or -‡ [02:51] What does that mean? I DON'T KNOW! :D [02:52] mingdao: sdx [02:52] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [02:52] /dev/root reiserfs [02:52] aigon: what does "ls -l /dev/root" say? [02:53] godling: i'm not a unicode guy,and i don't need one,so never bothered to get utf working :) [02:53] unicode > ascii [02:53] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-10-04 10:57 /dev/root -> sda8 [02:53] godling: wen hua = language / ying wen = English, (let me help aigon) [02:53] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.74.223) joined ##slackware. [02:53] aigon: that means your / filesystem is on a SATA drive ... which requires sata_via [02:54] aigon: you also have pata_via which is probably for your CD/DVD drive [02:54] U2 (n=as@203.99.174.174) left irc: Connection timed out [02:54] init[1]: sdx? [02:55] Tassis (n=tassis@unaffiliated/tassis) joined ##slackware. [02:55] mingdao: i mean he is having /dev/sdx (sata thingy) he told me b4 ,thought it would save time, [02:56] aigon: to boot your new kernel, you will need CONFIG_SATA_VIA=y and CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y or you must use an initrd image [02:56] init[1]: sorry, I'm rather slow and doing a few things at once [02:56] mingdao: np :) [02:57] sirmacik (i=sirmacik@host-86-63-158-4.nplay.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:57] sirmacik (i=sirmacik@host-86-63-158-4.nplay.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:59] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [02:59] init[1]: when he first just posted that link, I wondered ... lot's of bad juju around lately [02:59] okay, let me check out that .Xdefaults file [02:59] :) [03:00] Rat409: I start urxvt in ~/.fluxbox/startup ... but I can adapt ;) [03:00] mingdao: once you edit it, you want to use xrdb -overwrite to load the environment [03:00] dang that's busy ... [03:00] man xrdb for more information [03:01] In menuconfig i found VIA SATA support and VIA PATA support is correct those? [03:01] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:01] yes [03:01] make them both yes ... Y or * [03:01] aigon: in menuconfig * (use the space bar Luke) [03:01] z0rk (i=[U2FsdGV@66.56.95.101) joined ##slackware. [03:01] z0rk (i=[U2FsdGV@66.56.95.101) left ##slackware. [03:02] m [03:02] mingdao: i start it as urxvtd & in my .xinitrc then use urxvtc or urxvt -pe tabbed [03:02] ok [03:02] Rat409: urxvt -geometry 165x51 -fn "8x16bold" -pe tabbed -bg black -fg white & [03:02] that works Rat409 [03:02] mingdao: https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Support/KB/Docs/UsingTheXdefaultsFil [03:03] aw, don't make me read something new ;) [03:03] cuba33ci1 (n=cuba33ci@114-45-234-206.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] something new [03:03] HAH [03:03] Action: godling wins [03:03] too many tabs if FF now [03:04] I'm very comfortable with .fluxbox/startup [03:04] s/if/in [03:04] Is it funny that the webpage for the NIST National Vulnerability Database says "Unknown or Missing Resource"? [03:04] I'm not much of an X sorta guy to begin with [03:04] url launcher/matcher gives clickable urls using irssi and urxvt [03:05] say that again? [03:05] it makes urls clickable opens in firefox [03:05] how? [03:05] or whatever you set the browser option to [03:05] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) joined ##slackware. [03:06] using perl mingdao [03:06] launcher=firefox matcher is button 1 [03:06] seriously, rxvt-unicode is freaking awesome [03:06] underlines urls in irssi also [03:06] a perl script for irssi? [03:06] it's wrong to excludes some features from menuconfig. [03:06] in urxvt [03:06] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-230-162.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:06] aigon: no [03:06] no mingdao, it's a perl extension for rxvt-unicode that parses urls and makes them clickable [03:06] aigon: include what you need, and don't include what you don't need [03:07] aigon: I assume you mean kernel modules? [03:07] yes [03:07] godling: give it here ... please [03:07] mingdao: so even if you're in a manpage and there's a url, it will underline it and you can click it [03:07] aigon: I only have one CPU, so I don't have any others in my kernel [03:08] godling: give it here ... please [03:08] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/rxvt-unicode/ [03:08] Kiiiiiilllll (n=root@221.193.64.102) joined ##slackware. [03:08] godling• seriously, rxvt-unicode is freaking awesome +++ [03:08] godling: it's an option when building irssi? [03:08] indeed [03:08] mingdao: it's in rxvt-unicode, not irssi [03:08] yes native urxvt [03:08] if you run irssi in rxvt-unicode, it will do the clickable links thing mingdao [03:08] godling: I have my own SlackBuild [03:08] sorry misread that [03:09] so it's an option when you build urxvt-unicode? [03:09] ugh, Dugan Chen needs to check that slackbuild [03:09] enable-frills is listed twice [03:09] is it his? [03:09] he wrote it [03:09] tell him [03:09] someone else maintains it [03:09] he's a font nut [03:10] rhys (n=rhysrhav@66.102.98.194.ip.anet.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:10] it's urxvt or just rxvt-unicode :) [03:11] so what is the option? I have many listed [03:11] --enable-perl :P [03:11] I have that [03:12] so how do I click and launch? [03:12] you guys can critique my options -> http://pastebin.ca/1591940 [03:12] mingdao: links look like this http://omploader.org/vMmg2Yw [03:12] http://nion.modprobe.de/blog/archives/653-URL-highlighting-in-rxvt-unicode.html [03:12] mingdao: there are three options, look there [03:12] unixfool: still here? [03:13] Kiiiiiilllll: do NOT PM without first asking, and do NOT enter this channel logged on to your box as root [03:13] that looks good mingdao [03:13] mingdao: do you use transparency? [03:13] no [03:14] Kiiiiiilllll: I saw earlier you are on China Unicom server, no? [03:14] disable it then. I don't know how much smaller that will make hte executable though [03:14] or leave it on if you don't want to worry about it. ;P [03:14] godling: I might use it sometimes/someplaces ... I run irssi on my server and access through ssh and screen [03:15] but if you're going for flashy you might as well use eterm [03:15] 15:02 ::: Kiiiiiilllll [n=root@221.193.64.102] has joined ##slackware <<--- that is against channel rules [03:15] I'm not a flashy type of guy ... more into function [03:16] someone tell unixfool his bot sucks [03:16] ;P [03:16] his bot might not be online now [03:16] he's had some problems with it autoidentifying [03:16] slackboy: [03:16] ^^ [03:16] slackboy: wake up! [03:16] He also showed the ban's for that earlier [03:16] slackboy: your mother is a toaster [03:16] let's try something on him ... [03:17] # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set [03:17] CONFIG_SATA_PMP=y [03:17] CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=y [03:17] Channel flood from mingdao -- kicking [03:17] CONFIG_SATA_SIL24=y [03:17] mingdao kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:17] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [03:17] well, that much is working [03:17] he's awake [03:17] Man_of_W1x (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: "leaving" [03:18] is slackboy eggdrop? [03:18] or did unixfool just cobble it together? [03:18] probly not sure [03:18] unixfool: see how slackboy's flood works, but his root ban is busted [03:18] !bot [03:18] iirc unixfool did it himself [03:18] yuh [03:18] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30672.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:18] good night everyone [03:19] Kiiiiiilllll: suggest you /quit ##slackware, logout as root, login as Kiiiiiilllll or some normal user, and /join ##slackware [03:19] pleasant dreams deco the graphic artist ;) [03:19] yes,me too i'm out be well everyone! [03:19] mingdao: hehe :P thanks [03:19] night all [03:19] night Rat409 [03:19] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:19] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:19] pfft [03:19] it's only 00:19 [03:19] amateurs [03:19] 15:14 [03:20] I'm in the time zone that matters. ;P [03:20] cuba33ci_ (i=cuba33ci@114-45-233-230.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:21] mingdao: you can set all those urxvt options in .Xdefaults so you don't have to type the huge option list everytime [03:21] godling: I don't type it ... it's in ~/.fluxbox/startup [03:21] ah [03:21] I used fluxbox a very long time ago [03:21] What is the fastest way to install Qmail on SL 13? [03:21] installpkg qmail [03:22] ;) [03:22] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:22] But dont you need to download the code and compile it first? [03:22] the first wm I used in Slackware was E [03:22] that was biiiiig [03:23] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) left irc: "Leaving." [03:23] kleanchap: probably ... [03:23] kleanchap: can you do that? [03:26] Did that when you were being brest feed. ;-) [03:26] kleanchap: start here -> http://qmail-mirror.hoermann-rawema.de/top.html then here: http://alien.slackbook.org/AST/ [03:26] s/breast/brest [03:26] kleanchap: you are FOS [03:26] :-) [03:26] Yes, I did. [03:26] Qmail seems to have lot more plugins these days. [03:27] kleanchap: full of stupidity ... if you wrote SlackBuild scripts in the early 60s, you would not ask such stupid questions in 2009 [03:27] kleanchap: it's older now [03:27] jackass [03:27] kethry: s/brest/breast/ [03:27] er [03:27] mingdao: sorry if I offended you! [03:27] tabfail [03:27] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) joined ##slackware. [03:28] kleanchap: ^^ [03:28] CygnusX1 (n=CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:28] :^D [03:28] I thought you were trying to be a smart ass when you said "Can you do that?" (meant for compiling the code) [03:29] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [03:32] I am using SL 13 as a VM. With the exception of XFCE the rest of the WM do not go into full screen mode. Is there anyway to fix this? [03:33] sQuEE (n=narya@host49.201-252-58.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:38] Kiiiiiilllll: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k [03:39] Kiiiiiilllll: - Don't PM (/msg) people without first asking permission from them [03:41] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-56.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:42] heritech (i=heritech@not.drunk.anymore.net) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [03:42] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:45] Kiiiiiilllll (n=root@221.193.64.102) left ##slackware. [03:45] godling: I think I missed the links in irssi in rxvt-unicode thing [03:46] xinyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) joined ##slackware. [03:46] xinyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) left irc: "leaving" [03:46] plee_ (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [03:46] xinyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) joined ##slackware. [03:49] xinyou: you're not Kiiiiiilllll but you are still root [03:49] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:50] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:51] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [03:51] /lastlog highlighting [03:51] that's the url mingdao [03:51] therea re three options to set [03:51] thanks ... I missed that one and just saw the screenshot [03:52] mingdao: Hope you are not still upset with me? [03:52] hi [03:55] xinyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) left irc: "leaving" [03:56] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [03:56] Nick change: plee_ -> plee [03:58] which of /dev/random or /dev/urandom is it that takes forever to finish? [03:59] duno; the older one? [03:59] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:00] hehe [04:00] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:00] no rlt [04:00] rly [04:00] hello [04:00] hi [04:03] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [04:03] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) left irc: "Leaving." [04:03] plee: man urandom [04:04] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [04:04] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:04] godling, yeah :) thanks [04:05] aigon (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [04:05] xinyou (n=xinyou@221.193.64.102) joined ##slackware. [04:05] I didn't think of that :) [04:05] xinyou (n=xinyou@221.193.64.102) left ##slackware ("ÔÝÀë"). [04:05] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) joined ##slackware. [04:06] xinyou (n=xinyou@221.193.64.102) joined ##slackware. [04:06] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:06] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:06] xinyou: ˆ} [04:06] Anyone using Slackware 13 as a VMware appliance? [04:07] im using vmware on top of slack 13, if that helps [04:08] capone: I am trying to figure out why none of the WM (except XFCE) are switching into Full screen mode. [04:08] hmm cant say, i only use vmware for non-slackware guests, did you install vmware tools ?! [04:10] Yes, I did. After I installed VMware tools, the XFCE can go to full screen mode. But the rest of the window managers don't. [04:12] adjust your xconf [04:12] review x.log [04:12] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [04:17] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.37.5) joined ##slackware. [04:19] if a router has upnp running, and you dont have the pw to open ports, is there a upnp client to just hold open a port for you? [04:19] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:21] ping? [04:22] x1nyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) joined ##slackware. [04:23] x1nyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) left irc: Client Quit [04:25] oh boy, i have a lot to learn. didnt know ping opened ports [04:29] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@71-217-250-239.stcd.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:30] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@71-217-250-239.stcd.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [04:31] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:31] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:33] archiebenedict: then you don't really understand what a port is [04:33] :) [04:34] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [04:37] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.208) joined ##slackware. [04:38] no im trying to open a port on the router [04:38] say theres me-->router-->internet [04:38] trying to allow connection from the internet to me [04:39] and i dont know the password to the router, but it probably is using upnp [04:40] so you're trying to break into someone's router? [04:41] no, trying to break out [04:41] just want a little port forward [04:42] my friend is stuck behind his dads router, and wants to run subversion for his tiny little project [04:42] why not tunnel it? [04:44] uh what? [04:44] and the friend had an argument with his dad, that they do not speak wich eachother, so he does not want to ask for the password, or the dad is out of town for a year ? ;> [04:44] archiebenedict: tunnel svn over something else [04:44] usually it's over ssh [04:45] you know what, i never asked him why he doesnt just ask for a port forward [04:45] yeah :P [04:45] if you circumvent your friend's dad's router and he finds out, it's likely your friend is going to get his ass beat [04:45] im not circumventing anything [04:46] my friend will do the circumventing [04:46] so, more likely he will get his ass beat [04:46] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:46] and since upnp is on there, its not circumventing anything, it's using the available services [04:47] but i never see a "upnp client" i just see software that implements upnp [04:49] x1nyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) joined ##slackware. [04:49] portmapper... is this what ive been looking for? [04:49] }µ¤µ¤¡¢ [04:51] x1nyou: you really shouldn't logon to IRC as root. [04:51]   [04:51] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:51] ý¿ýýýýý [04:52] x1nyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) left irc: Client Quit [04:52] godling: what do you see when he posts? [04:53] random characters [04:53] I also can't see Tibetan [04:53] godling: do you see Chinese characters are garbage? [04:53] ɽµ¤µ¤¡¢ [04:54] no, I saw what you typed [04:54] not what he did [04:54] the second time he posted I see one question mark then an e thing then 5 ? [04:54]   does not appear as random noise [04:54] is that what you see? [04:54] wo kan bu dong [04:54] thanks [04:55] he keeps /msg me and I can't read whatever that is [04:55] he's on Slackware 12 and we did not have Chinese support in it like we did beginning with ... I think 12.1 [04:57] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30672.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:58] hi mingdao [04:59] Nick change: adeodatus -> aigon [05:01] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:02] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.77.193) joined ##slackware. [05:03] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [05:05] brb [05:05] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [05:05] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.171.192) joined ##slackware. [05:05] salve [05:05] I mean, hello... sorry... I just woke up [05:05] saliva ? [05:05] anahel, nope [05:05] anavel, nope [05:06] ok. [05:06] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [05:07] aigon: did your shiny new kernel work? [05:07] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [05:09] right now i compile the kernel. [05:09] okay [05:09] hope it works okay [05:09] I just enabled SCIM [05:09] not that I'm going to use it [05:09] I follow Zordrak tutorial. [05:09] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:10] mingdao: thanks for your help until now!! [05:10] yw [05:11] mingdao: hit me with that chinese gobbledygook again [05:11] `/£ýº [05:11] is that the same that xinyao(sp) typed? [05:12] no [05:12] I don't know what he typed. [05:13] He has Slackware 12. [05:13] nope [05:13] We did not yet have Chinese input then. [05:13] shows up in my logs as noise [05:13] :/ [05:13] that's disheartening [05:13] And he has no kde-l10n-zh_CN installed [05:13] I'm a bit nervous chatting with him. [05:14] He's logging in as root and using a backtrack LiveCD. [05:14] He could be smart enough to own me soon. ;) [05:14] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.172.156.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [05:14] maybe he's PRC government :P [05:15] how do you block someone from PM? [05:15] why doesn't alien push his slackbuilds to the repo? [05:15] he does [05:15] hrm. must not be updated for 13.0 [05:16] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [05:16] maybe not, it's not on slackbuilds.org [05:16] /ignore [05:16] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [05:16] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/tibmachuni-font-ttf/ [05:16] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [05:18] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:18] Nick change: tew -> tewmten [05:18] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-56.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:19] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-151.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [05:19] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.37.5) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:19] jb75 (n=jeroen@braatj.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:19] jb75 (n=jeroen@braatj.xs4all.nl) left irc: Client Quit [05:20] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:21] godling: alienBOB does not post his SlackBuilds to slackbuilds.org [05:21] godling: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/tibmachuni-font-ttf/build/tibmachuni-font-ttf.SlackBuild [05:21] yeah I know [05:22] godling: every one of his packages has a build/ and a pkg/ or pkg64/ dir [05:22] that's a file in a subdirectory of where I was ;P [05:22] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [05:22] mingdao: I asked if he posted his slackbuilds to the repo, you said yes. :P [05:23] what time is it there? [05:23] godling: he has his own repo ... what did you mean? [05:23] siderov (n=siderov@e176083115.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [05:23] oh, you thought I meant that [05:23] mingdao: I meant slackbuilds.org :) [05:23] what would I think? [05:23] that is not "the repo" to me [05:24] do you recommend the use of 64 bit version of Slackware? [05:24] apparently not [05:25] damnit, apparently I've got that Tibetan font installed [05:25] Keiffer: if you have the hardware, yes [05:25] why would one not recommend the 64 bit version? [05:26] godling: he made that Tibetan font pkg for a guy living in Tibet [05:26] archiebenedict: if the person had a 32-bit processor [05:26] mingdao: that's nice of him [05:26] godling: you more than likely will never need it [05:26] mingdao: it's not a matter of needing it. ;P [05:26] Keiffer: I recommend Slackware64 [05:26] godling: you install software you _don't_ need? ;) [05:28] mingdao: I installed irssi. ;P [05:28] I do -> mingdao@paul:~$ ls /var/log/packages/ | wc -l [05:28] 829 [05:28] you don't need/use irssi? [05:28] I use it, but I don't need to use it. [05:28] i have installed linux [05:28] will i get issues with this Slackware 64? [05:28] on dad' computer, [05:28] he is very very happy :p [05:28] <|mel|> I found this entry in the list of mounted filesystems: tmpfs 372M 0 372M 0% /dev/shm [05:28] fredoslack: is dad going to be mad? [05:29] godling: i expect no lol [05:29] godling: lol [05:29] fredoslack: how old are you please? [05:29] i had Vista, [05:29] mingdao: 33, [05:29] and Dad 70 [05:29] =) [05:29] my further * [05:29] I really need to become multilingual [05:30] another thing. Gnome or KDE in slackware? [05:30] <|mel|> What is the "tmpfs" filesystem for? Can I make use it for any purpose? [05:30] Keiffer: i prefer gnome :( [05:30] KDE now, no more Gnome [05:30] You can get third-party Gnome packages. [05:30] mingdao: you like kde? [05:30] no [05:30] not one little bit init[1] [05:30] ;) [05:30] reboot required [05:30] bye everybody =) [05:31] |mel|: it is for constructing temporary partitions in RAM [05:31] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [05:31] |mel|: there's a wikipedia entry [05:32] init[1]: I give one credit to KDE ... [05:32] When I first started using a Linux distro, the first was RedHat. [05:32] <|mel|> godling: All right. Thanks, I will take a look at it. [05:32] Then Debian. I was using WindowMaker and wanted to see another DE. [05:33] xinyou (n=xinyou@221.193.64.102) left irc: "ÔÝÀë" [05:33] mingdao: xfce is my boy ;) [05:33] KDE was only available in Woody, because two devels were arguing about some lib(s). [05:33] So I would have to take my whole system back to Woody to apt-get KDE. [05:33] I did not know at the time that I could build from source on Debian. [05:33] So I looked for another distro. [05:33] My choices were LFS, Gentoo, or Slackware. [05:34] I chose Slack. [05:34] I don't need a DE, so I run Fluxbox. [05:34] http://www.sciencemag.org/ardipithecus/ <- yay! [05:35] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Gonna check out Scrotwm ... somebody posted in here yesterday. [05:35] Looks nice on screenshots. [05:35] I d/led the source and untarred it. [05:35] have you ever used a tiling wm? [05:35] Not much further yet ... maybe I started a SlackBuild for it. [05:35] no [05:35] well, I take that back [05:35] maybe [05:36] Are you familiar with ... it was DSL [05:36] they're strange to get used to if you aren't already [05:36] TinyCore Linux? [05:36] They have some type of wm in it that might be a tiling wm. [05:36] no, I have used dsl once or twice before [05:36] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.172.156.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:37] I never used DSL, but tried TinyCore in VBox. [05:37] x1nyou (n=root@221.193.64.102) joined ##slackware. [05:37] cute [05:37] there is is again logging in as root [05:37] and using a backtrack CD [05:37] mingdao: awesome is awesome : [05:37] ;) [05:37] that just makes me a bit ... leary [05:38] flwm, mingdao [05:38] it does not appear to be tiling [05:38] I like fltk [05:38] I used xmonad init[1] [05:38] dexom (n=frb@p5B0ED751.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:38] I like Flux, and don't think I'd change if it took a lot of reading. [05:38] I don't have the time. [05:38] I had to give myself a crash course in haskell to understand the damned configuration file :) [05:39] ha ha [05:39] That keeps me from 'trying' a lot of stuff. [05:39] Plus, I need to get some work done occassionally. [05:39] I can see you haven't a lot of time to waste. :P [05:39] now it's family time [05:39] ;) [05:40] mingdao: you married ? [05:40] I'll check out that .Xdefaults file [05:40] yes [05:40] wife and daughter [05:40] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.74.223) left ##slackware ("It's time to have a meal."). [05:41] godling: I had to put him on /ignore cause he kept PMing me. :-( [05:41] Just makes me nervous when someone running backtrack logged in as root living in China gets interested in me. [05:41] neur0sys (n=neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) joined ##slackware. [05:41] siderov (n=siderov@e176083115.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:42] mingdao: you're the one who decided to go behind enemy lines. :P [05:43] http://a11news.com/images/china-death-van.jpg [05:44] samuelig (i=55399ff9@gateway/web/freenode/x-uztekerttnxftiic) joined ##slackware. [05:46] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.148.176) joined ##slackware. [05:46] mingdao: have you seen any of those rolling around? 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[06:01] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) returned to ##slackware. [06:01] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) returned to ##slackware. [06:01] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) returned to ##slackware. [06:01] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) returned to ##slackware. [06:01] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) returned to ##slackware. [06:01] Instained_Atom (n=BadAtom@supporter/active/BadAtom) returned to ##slackware. [06:01] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) returned to ##slackware. [06:01] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [06:02] whiskers (n=mc@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [06:02] oahong (n=user@218.83.159.11) joined ##slackware. [06:03] I created two logos for slackware. What do you think? http://www.unisonofx.it/public/slackware_by_AkiraYuki.png [06:03] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [06:04] so good! [06:05] pretty good AkiraYuki [06:05] couild you take the pixelation off the K and R? [06:05] s/could/couild [06:06] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) got lost in the net-split. [06:06] neur0sys (n=neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) got lost in the net-split. [06:06] roliveira (i=1000@92.250.83.109) left irc: "Leaving" [06:07] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:07] Nick change: neur0sys1 -> neuro_sys [06:07] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [06:07] amIexpert (n=chatzill@124.43.51.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:08] mingdao: I don't think it would look right without the pixelation [06:08] at least not on the R [06:08] different sort of font so it wont need to be [06:08] Padhu (n=Padhu@117.97.135.139) joined ##slackware. [06:09] AkiraYuki: it looks nice ... I really like the 13 [06:10] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [06:11] cuba33ci1 (n=cuba33ci@114-45-234-206.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:11] mingdao, the font for the slackware is this: Acknowledge TT BRK [06:12] aigon (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:13] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) joined ##slackware. [06:13] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) left irc: Client Quit [06:13] now I'm perfecting slackware ball. But I think it is more beautiful than white. :( http://www.unisonofx.it/public/slackware_ball_2.png [06:14] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) joined ##slackware. [06:14] the S is not centered [06:14] Nick change: adeodatus -> aigon [06:15] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:15] nooper, because it has the line below [06:15] SIGBUS (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:16] very logical, but it looks unpleasant [06:17] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-238-221.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [06:17] one of my favorites: http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/slackware/Linux_images/slackwed_1280.jpg [06:17] gives me goose bumbs :P [06:20] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [06:21] How to clean up the crap file after kernel recompiletion? [06:21] dudeo (i=74446503@gateway/web/freenode/x-sdpllgtqkorlaxjq) joined ##slackware. [06:21] aigon: which one is that? [06:21] your bzImage? [06:21] how do we run bash without it logging entries to bash_history [06:21] what virtualisation software do you recommend? virtualbox, vmware etc? [06:22] linkster (n=linkn@d51A497BF.access.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [06:23] dudeo: man bash says unset HISTFILE [06:23] it's seems that i have many file with the some name. [06:23] in /boot [06:24] aigon: did you write files to boot, or use something like "make install" ? [06:24] aigon: and maybe pastebin.ca you "ls -l /boot/" output [06:24] mingdao: ok [06:25] dudeo: and HISTFILESIZE [06:26] please look at this link http://dpaste.com/102260/ [06:26] yasu: nooper what if HISTFILE is read only ? [06:26] HUSTFILE=/dev/null #? [06:27] linkster (n=linkn@d51A497BF.access.telenet.be) left irc: [06:27] aigon: did you write files to boot, or use something like "make install" ? [06:27] dudeo: how can an environment variable be read only? [06:28] dudeo: export command [06:28] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:28] I write the file to boot [06:28] vmlinuz-generic-smp--smp-darkstar [06:28] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:28] hey [06:28] and vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp-smp-darkstar [06:28] and vmlinuz-generic-smp-Linux-smp-darkstar [06:28] yes that file [06:28] are yours, correct? [06:29] yes [06:29] that is three different filenames [06:29] three different files [06:29] you have a bit too much in localversion [06:29] Which one should i remove? [06:29] which is the last one you compiled, that works? [06:30] let me show you something in your .config [06:30] aigon: in the .config file you have a line like this: CONFIG_LOCALVERSION="-smp" [06:31] aigon: that is where you have put -smp--smp-darkstar and -smp-smp-darkstar and -Linux-smp-darkstar [06:31] something like that [06:32] aigon: for a custom kernel you do not really need much if anything in there [06:32] It's okay if you want it, but I usually just name my new kernel after it's version, such as: vmlinuz-2.6.31.1 [06:32] then i remove everything in there [06:33] aigon: unless I recompile another kernel with the same version number [06:33] aigon: which kernels in there do you want to boot? [06:33] aigon: because each one should be where you copied a bzImage into /boot/ as that name [06:34] Is there a command to show me the time when a file was compiled? [06:36] aigon: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2495952 2009-08-17 08:20 vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp [06:36] that shows you when you copied the image into /boot/ [06:36] i used http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0 for slackpkg mirror ,i have got mail that there are security updates, slackpkg update says nothing new [06:37] aigon: you could also issue "ls -l /path/to/arch/x86/boot/bzImage [06:39] dudeo: when did you last update? you can read the /slackware-13.0/ChangeLog.txt file to see if you're up-to-date with them [06:39] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [06:39] mk_ (n=nunes@187.41.72.82) joined ##slackware. [06:39] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [06:39] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left ##slackware. [06:40] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:40] mingdao: yesterday but just got a mail that php samba updates are available and it doesn't show em atall [06:40] Nick change: SIGBUS_ -> SIGBUS [06:41] dudeo: maybe your mirror hasn't updated [06:42] dudeo: me too [06:42] mingdao: thanks for your help! [06:42] yasu: you also have the same problem ? [06:43] dudeo: yes [06:43] mirror hasn't updated [06:43] yes ,may b tommorow [06:43] dudeo: I use 'rsync.osuosl.org::slackware' and just started my script ... I'm rsync'ing updates [06:44] so far I see php and samba [06:44] hit it again ;) [06:44] patches/packages/php-5.2.11-i486-1_slack13.0.txz [06:44] patches/packages/samba-3.2.15-i486-1_slack13.0.txz [06:44] es [06:44] they're there [06:45] yes [06:45] it think i'll better rsync it :-/ [06:45] aigon (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:46] dudeo: # Keep the Slackware patches up to date: [06:46] 30 3 * * * /usr/local/sbin/rsync_slackware_patches.sh -q -r 13.0 [06:46] I have similar entries for Slackware64 13.0 and both arches of -current [06:46] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) left irc: [06:47] mingdao: :) yea that is faster [06:48] dudeo: nice scripts here -> http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/ [06:49] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [06:49] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:50] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) joined ##slackware. [06:50] mingdao: ty :) [06:50] np [06:50] thank alienBOB [06:51] he's the one who wrote them and publishes them [06:51] using psu.edu mirror here for slackpkg. still hasn't updated with the latest 2 packages [06:51] nooper: 'rsync.osuosl.org::slackware' [06:51] it's actually the first to get them [06:51] hi all. if i have two detatched screens and i would like to attach both of them to multiwindows screen. how can i do this? [06:52] oh [06:52] alienBOB: ty for your amazing scripts :) [06:52] [rsync_slackware_patches.sh:] Done rsync-ing. [06:52] [rsync_slackware_patches.sh:] New patches have arrived for Slackware 13.0 (x86)! [06:52] ;) [06:53] lowkyalur: create one screen two windows. in each window, ssh to localhost and open each of the other screens in one window. dont know how ^A will work with screen within screen though [06:53] i wouldn't recommend it [06:54] root@blackhole:/etc/slackpkg# slackpkg check-updates No news is good news [06:54] :-/ [06:54] dudeo: ty ... my server is now patched ;) [06:54] i hate you slackpkg [06:54] :-/ [06:54] mingdao: :) [06:54] nooper: thanks, however that really gets messy then (screen in screen) [06:54] dudeo: slackpkg update ; slackpkg upgrade-all [06:55] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.7.161) joined ##slackware. [06:58] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [06:59] sudo didnt work for installing packages, the user is in sudoers list!! any help or link for that?! [06:59] sirslacker: give the full path? [07:00] mingdao@silas64:~$ sudo /sbin/installpkg [07:00] Usage: installpkg [options] [07:00] i do the same as u [07:01] but it doesnt work [07:01] it had work as i used kde4 but on xfce somethings is wrong or i dameged somethings which i didnt know about that! [07:02] mingdao@silas64:~$ sudo /sbin/installpkg build/multi-aterm/pkg/10.2/multi-aterm-0.2.1-i486-1.tgz [07:02] worked for me ... [07:02] for me not [07:02] of course, I'm running Slackware64 -current and installed a 10.2 pkg ;) [07:02] 32-bit even [07:02] sirslacker: then you, sirslacker, have a configuration problem [07:02] bash send me command not find back [07:02] Padhu (n=Padhu@117.97.135.139) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [07:02] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [07:03] sirslacker: can you post the entire output in pastebin.ca? [07:04] dudeo (i=74446503@gateway/web/freenode/x-sdpllgtqkorlaxjq) left ##slackware. [07:04] sudo: /sbin/installpkg: command not found [07:04] sirslacker: /etc/sudoers file? [07:04] im there [07:04] sirslacker: http://pastebin.ca/1592219 [07:04] i changed again last night to kde4 its work there [07:05] sirslacker: lose the : [07:05] but on xfce like that [07:06] sirslacker: sudo /sbin/installpkg [07:06] sirslacker: note the sudo not sudo: [07:09] mingdao if u type sudo and a command is could not be run sudo answers u, and so sudo put : before the its answer [07:09] sirslacker: what does id output? you can put the entire line right in here [07:09] so you would have somethings like that [07:09] sudo: /sbin/installpkg: command not found [07:09] whoa kay ... thanks for splaing that to me [07:09] uid=1000(aligp) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),11(floppy),17(audio),18(video),19(cdrom),25(smmsp),26(tape),83(plugdev),84(power),86(netdev),93(scanner),100(users) [07:09] i put my self in to root but again the same isssue [07:09] sirslacker: did you edit /etc/sudoers or use vigr to do so? [07:09] i can not belive that Xfce do somethings there [07:09] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [07:09] I can't believe Xfce even launches ;) [07:09] i like to work with sudoers [07:09] :D [07:10] sirslacker: you got root on that box? [07:11] what do you mean? explain plz! [07:11] sirslacker: can you su to root for us and issue "egrep -v "(^#|^ *$)" /etc/sudoers" [07:11] do you have root access? [07:11] can you su to root? [07:11] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [07:11] i put aligp last night to root [07:12] to solve the issue it doesnt helo [07:12] wait [07:12] whoa kay [07:12] in sudors thats like that [07:12] Biber (n=Biber@79.101.156.59) joined ##slackware. [07:12] root all .... [07:13] i put aligp as root too [07:13] sirslacker: whoa kay ... [07:13] whell and users r both uncommented [07:13] please don't post the output [07:13] I don't think you have root anyway. [07:13] Mom wouldn't let you! [07:13] root ALL=(ALL) ALL [07:13] aligp ALL=(ALL) ALL [07:13] %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL [07:13] Channel flood from sirslacker -- kicking [07:13] %users ALL=/sbin/mount /cdrom,/sbin/umount /cdrom [07:13] %users localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now [07:13] sirslacker kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:14] sirslacker: whoa kay ... [07:14] dipshit [07:16] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) left irc: ""I am very very happy, so please hurt me" -- Antony and the Johnsons." [07:18] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.77.193) joined ##slackware. [07:18] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) joined ##slackware. [07:25] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) left irc: ""I am very very happy, so please hurt me" -- Antony and the Johnsons." [07:27] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-76-11.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:30] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.7.161) joined ##slackware. [07:30] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.7.161) left ##slackware. 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[07:38] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.171.192) left irc: "Segmentation Fault" [07:40] Nick change: adeodatus -> aigon [07:41] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:41] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-2-2.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [07:41] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [07:42] aigon: did you get rid of the extra kernel images in /boot ? [07:43] yes, I did mingdao [07:43] good deal [07:46] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:47] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:48] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [07:48] meow [07:49] I have a pb with the resolution in fluxbox. [07:50] okay [07:50] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:51] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [07:52] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [07:58] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [07:58] Hello! [07:58] How do I make my mrxvt (rxvt) to run bash as bash --login? [07:58] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) left irc: "leaving" [08:00] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-151.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:00] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:00] from man rxvt [08:00] -ls|+ls [08:00] Start as a login-shell/sub-shell; resource loginShell. [08:03] Skaperen: I'm also not certain if this works in rxvt, but in rxvt-unicode in .Xdefaults I have: [08:03] URxvt*loginShell: True [08:03] sorry ... bad tab completion ... shik4nt4z4 [08:03] does any one use qemu or familar with internals of qemu,? [08:03] *internals* [08:04] what is the name of usb host controller (UCHI) , emulated by qemu , ist from VIA or intel, [08:04] any idea about that ? [08:04] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.231.181) joined ##slackware. [08:04] hi [08:06] 4gb ram and 2.6 dual core intel cpu could run a windows xp virtual machine with Corel and Adobe suites? i need a solution to use these apps under slackware [08:07] or can you encrypt a windows partition so nobody can see it? and then decrypting it somehow and mount it to boot [08:07] Keiffer: make sure you stripped out windows before doing so, [08:08] i mean Virtual machine thingy [08:08] stripped out? [08:08] try to stop useless services etc, [08:08] you can use nlite [08:08] googel nlite, [08:09] yep. [08:09] there could be this solution from truecrypt, hidden os... but it' working only for windows. [08:11] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.231.181) left ##slackware. [08:11] so i should stop services on both host and guest OS? [08:12] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.148.176) left irc: "Leaving." [08:12] Keiffer: no no, [08:12] Keiffer: once you boot to windows, [08:13] disable services and optimize for better performace [08:13] there are options for it, [08:13] Keiffer: you want to run Corel and Adobe suites in a vm in Slackware? [08:13] digg the windows ! [08:13] aigon (n=adeodatu@92.84.6.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:13] mingdao, yes [08:13] Keiffer: im VM imean, [08:14] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [08:14] Keiffer: I would suggest Virtual Box PUEL edition. [08:14] init[1], i'll do that. thanks. [08:14] QEMU is also good for a kernel developer [08:14] Keiffer: and as init[1] says, strip Win of everything possible ... it's not needed, unless for some silly reason you go online in it maybe [08:14] use QEMU I will help you [08:14] amIexpert_: are you a kernel developer? [08:15] amIexpert_: aah nice of you, [08:15] mingdao: no just doing a simple project in osdev.org [08:15] amIexpert_: do you mind telling me the usb host controller emulated by qemu [08:15] Action: mingdao hear "Danger Will Robinson!" [08:16] wait [08:16] I'll see and tell [08:16] Action: init[1] i'm gona live boot linuxkernel and do a lspci [08:16] amIexpert_: i m waiting :) [08:16] k [08:16] mingdao, i don't intend to go online from win. i hope i can see ext3 partitions from it [08:16] init[1]: in VBox it is EHCI [08:17] Keiffer: Can you see ext3 partitions from Windows not in a vm? [08:17] mingdao: i'm working on qemu, i know qemu has a part in VB [08:17] Keiffer: (a) I don't run ext3, (b) I use NFS and Samba and store data on my server [08:18] i guess this is what i want [08:18] with specialized software, yes [08:18] 00:01.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 USB [Natoma/Triton II] (rev 01) [08:18] intel SB82371 [08:18] amIexpert_: ;) [08:18] press the clt + alt + 2 to enter to the QEMU console [08:18] then type info usbhost [08:19] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [08:20] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "zzzzt - gone" [08:20] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] amIexpert_: ty :) [08:23] amIexpert_: i think info pci was better, [08:23] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:23] info usbhost doesn't give vid [08:23] or controller [08:23] of^ [08:24] I think you have to enable the USB support [08:24] that mean config the QEMU [08:25] 0x7020PIIX3 USB Host Controller (Triton II) [08:26] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [08:26] amIexpert_: info usbhost isn't given that, [08:26] yes i have enabled usbhost [08:29] does info pci did [08:29] for me there is not PCI enabled [08:29] yes it did [08:29] aah, [08:29] also, i need a solution of maintaining an image (only filenames, dates, etc) of my storage partition. what do you suggest? [08:29] amIexpert_: :) thank you [08:30] in case i accidentaly rm -rf /dev/sda5 (200 gb) [08:30] to know what i had on it [08:30] ls -l [08:31] Keiffer: you can use tree too, [08:31] * man tree * for more information, [08:31] tree would be much better [08:32] thank you, again, adn again and again [08:35] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:38] morning [08:41] huleeeeeeeeeeeeeeew hell o o o o o [08:41] [echo] echo echo echo echo [08:44] Quiznos: did you brush your teeth :D [08:45] cg999: did you make it back yet? [08:45] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:45] mingdao: Thank you! [08:47] what automated task youd you include in a maintenace script? so far i am thinking of: root backup, home backup, listing storage partitions, fsck-ing all partitions [08:47] [007aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.215) joined ##slackware. [08:48] init[1] do you know that God is using your hands when you ask me that? :) [08:49] yes,indeed ! ;) [08:49] Action: init[1] some geeks forget to brush their teeth [08:49] Action: init[1] ;D [08:50] i dont forget [08:50] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:50] shik4nt4z4: yw [08:50] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [08:50] <[007aLinux]> Hello [08:50] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: Hi [08:51] [007aLinux]: hi [08:51] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: Which other linux distributions do you use? [08:51] none [08:52] is there another? ;) [08:52] dos [08:52] i used this command, starting with S if i remember well, and it appended a fixed string to each line of a big file... do you know what it was? i want to read it's man page [08:52] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [08:52] winter: I got a funny feeling DOS is not a Linux distro. [08:52] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [08:52] sed? [08:53] [007aLinux]: I am going to build a LFS soon ... [08:53] of course, my soon sometimes never arrives [08:53] [007aLinux]: I'm still learning Slackware ... [08:54] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: LFS? [08:54] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: Own created linux? [08:54] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: LFS=Linux From Scratch [08:54] adeodatus (n=knkjkk@92.82.74.65) joined ##slackware. [08:55] yes, Linux from Scratch [08:55] just don't know if I have enough scratch yet ;) [08:55] time ... [08:55] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: What's the purpose of building LFS? [08:56] Quiznos, yes SEd [08:56] [007aLinux]: I want to do LFS mainly just to learn more about Linux; and study the scripts in /etc/rc.d/ to learn more about Slackware [08:56] ty [08:56] Why does shell start like bash --login by default after login? Where can I see these settings? [08:56] [007aLinux]: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ [08:56] ok [08:57] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: If you build LFS , then you have to create your own packages for LFS for example it may be .mingdaotxg format.Right? [08:59] I dunno ... I don't think there are packages for LFS. [09:00] afaik you build everything from source [09:00] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: As slackware packages are in .txz format, packages for your LFS may be .mingdaotxz formate if you compile and make them into that format. [09:00] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] iceknight (n=iceknigh@nas-12-078.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [09:02] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.37.5) joined ##slackware. [09:02] m4lik (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [09:02] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: ? [09:03] adeodatus (n=knkjkk@92.82.74.65) left irc: Client Quit [09:03] up next up down up up [09:03] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:03] ("knkjkk", sorry...) [09:04] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: I think,You have to pay lot of time for building LFS. [09:04] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.74.65) joined ##slackware. [09:05] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]" [09:05] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Nick change: adeodatus -> aigon [09:05] oahong (n=user@218.83.159.11) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [09:09] :q [09:09] m4lik (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [09:10] [007aLinux]: indeed ... that is exactly why I haven't started ... no free time. [09:10] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.251) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:11] Nick change: Camarade_Tux -> kkjjhlhlba [09:11] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: What are you doing now? [09:13] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: Yes, building LFS is a good idea to know about linux . [09:13] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: Go on. [09:14] <[007aLinux]> mingdao: I will start building LFS soon if i get enough time. [09:14] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-209-214.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:16] do a gentoo install, it teaches you about the same, and takes about 1/4 of the time [09:18] <[007aLinux]> thrice`: Yes, [09:18] <[007aLinux]> thrice`: Is it 1/4==6 hours? [09:18] thrice`: you mean that compiling C++ is a pain? [09:18] ok, I probably should have said 1/10 of the time :) [09:18] Nick change: kkjjhlhlba -> Camarade_Tux [09:19] I just think copy/pasting the toolchain bootstrapping out of the LFS manual for 4 hours is more tedius than informatory [09:19] <[007aLinux]> thrice`: 2.4 hours? [09:19] http://www.gearfuse.com/cupcakes-for-zombies/ just in time for halloween [09:20] oahong (n=user@220.112.127.189) joined ##slackware. [09:21] <[007aLinux]> Pig_Pen: Have you eaten that cake? [09:22] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [09:23] pri4pus (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [09:23] nope [09:24] <[007aLinux]> Pig_Pen: Eat as quick as possible? [09:24] [007aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.215) left ##slackware. [09:24] i am eating a bowl of cerial (raison bran) [09:27] with milk? [09:27] blood -_- [09:27] m00 [09:28] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:28] milk [09:28] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left ##slackware. [09:29] tuvok302_ (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:30] http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-tcpip-access-using-bash where's my /dev/tcp? :-( [09:31] nvm, comments [09:32] /proc/sys/net ? [09:34] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.161.203) left irc: "Saliendo" [09:34] can't seem to find anything similar in /proc/sys/net [09:34] whoever said /dev/tcp works in slackware is a liar [09:36] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) joined ##slackware. [09:36] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:37] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) left irc: Client Quit [09:39] maybe there is a kernel module that needs modprobed, look in /lib/modules//kernel/drivers/net [09:39] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) joined ##slackware. [09:39] http://www.fsf.org/news/gnu-bucks [09:39] Pig_Pen: do they even consider slackware free? [09:39] not sure, i think it is weird [09:39] slackware is more free than debian [09:39] Pig_Pen: I've been under the impression the fsf didn't like slackware much [09:40] i use what works for me, it just happens to be slackware, but if i needed to switch i would slap a flavor of bsd on my system in a hearbeat if necessary [09:40] Pig_Pen: I think that's one of the reason they don't like slackware [09:40] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-209-214.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:41] it's not gnuish [09:41] too BSDish? [09:41] he ;p [09:41] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:41] :P [09:42] today it is raining, one of those rainy days that makes me want to get in to a warm bed a sleep all day with jazz music playing with the volume sort of low [09:42] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:42] hoobop_ (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:43] Pig_Pen: do? ;) [09:43] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-37-173.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:44] you need to make sure your bash is compiled with redirections [09:44] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.221.111) joined ##slackware. [09:44] hi [09:44] hi [09:45] hi [09:45] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [09:45] hello [09:45] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:46] I had accidently used one of my partitions as the root for slackware install and setup ran mke2fs on it. But I remember removing the drive as soon as I figured the mistake. what all would mke2fs have overwritten ? [09:46] no way to know [09:47] but you can have a candy before you start crying :D [09:49] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-37-173.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:49] I haven't yet tried any recovery because I am waiting for a spare drive to make an image of the partition before proceding [09:49] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [09:49] Camarade_Tux: :) [09:49] good idea ;) [09:49] akshat: actually... I ate your candy :D [09:49] akshat: what was the fs before? [09:49] Camarade_Tux: ext2 [09:49] that is why i ask [09:49] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:49] because I removed it and did not unmount it cleanly, is there a possibility for the backup superblock to be in place? [09:49] I just removed the usb cable [09:51] - alienBOB had pointed me to testdisk yesterday [09:52] it says it can undelete partitions but is my situation similar to deletion ? [09:52] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-252-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:52] ah, was you [09:52] Camarade_Tux: yes :) [09:52] Camarade_Tux: I am following your advice on the image [09:52] :) [09:53] akshat: probably not but if you work on a copy, you can test anything ;) [09:53] Camarade_Tux: yes, i agree with you [09:53] Camarade_Tux: what do you mean by " probably not " ? [09:54] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:55] hmmm, forget it, it will probably do it (restore it), I had misunderstood something [09:55] Camarade_Tux: howdy ! [09:56] Camarade_Tux: ok [09:56] telinit 4! [09:56] :P [09:56] anyone has experience with uml filesystems? [09:57] Nick change: init[1] -> init[4] [09:58] \o/ [09:58] Action: init[4] help me ,i can't hold *kdm* any more ,somebody telinit 3 [09:58] 11:56 init[1] : Camarade_Tux: son,i'm i runlevel 1 for several years ,some da we will be in 4,untill then no pocket money :D [09:58] gimme the money! ^^ [09:58] omg! [09:59] hahaha :P [09:59] Action: init[4] hands over $100 to Camarade_Tux ! "Don't ask again" [09:59] Action: Camarade_Tux buys a new computer [09:59] init[4]: ask what? i want a bribe! [09:59] o_O [10:00] hoobop_ (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:00] Action: init[4] switch backs to runlevel 1 [10:00] Nick change: init[4] -> init[1] [10:00] hoobop_ (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.37.5) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:00] Action: init[1] 4 is looting me [10:00] telinit 5 [10:01] bash: telinit command not found [10:01] init [10:01] init 5 [10:01] doesn't work also? [10:02] <[Nobody]> runlevel 6 [10:02] <[Nobody]> . [10:02] Lexus45: you are not the privilaged peron [10:02] which telinit [10:02] /sbin/telinit [10:02] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:02] <[Nobody]> init[1], telinit 6 [10:02] init[1]: sudo makemeasandwich [10:02] Action: init[1] cut the crap out, i'm fed up switching levels ;-/ [10:03] mv /sbin/telinit /sbin/nomoretleinit [10:03] I know what I'm going to do! update my kernel! :D [10:04] :) [10:04] Action: init[1] hands over sandwich to spook [10:04] Camarade_Tux: then ? [10:04] init[1]: and a pickle? [10:05] o hai Camarade_Tux [10:05] Action: init[1] hands over pickle and cup of coffie to spook [10:05] and a glass of wine? [10:05] hi cg999 [10:05] cg999: omg ! you are alive [10:05] cg999: didn't grub kill you last night ? [10:05] yep [10:05] it did [10:05] so i switched to lilo [10:06] yay. lilo > grub [10:06] whiskers (n=mc@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:06] Hi [10:06] Please welcome our lilo convert ! cg999 [10:06] i even made a lilo boot screen: http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1078/slackware.png [10:06] :D [10:06] wow [10:06] Why does nickserv think my nick is sniffle? [10:06] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:06] cuz ur grouped with sniffle? [10:07] 2.6.31 or 2.6.32? [10:07] cg999 I don't understand? [10:07] Action: init[1] afk brb [10:07] /nickserv group sniffle PASSWORD [10:07] like that^ [10:07] cg999: you abot to boot your new kernel yet? [10:08] nope [10:08] lilo is failing on me [10:08] cg999: I wrote a little document for you today. [10:08] won't lemme give the kernel its root dev yet [10:08] cg999: In it there is the clue to why your kernel won't boot. [10:08] my kernel does boot... [10:08] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:09] its just lilo wont take /dev/sd* cuz it doesnt exist on this kernel [10:09] cg999: http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/slackware/compgenius-kernel-guide [10:09] cg999: you have a PATA drive, so don't use /dev/sdx in LiLO [10:09] ;) [10:09] cg999: I've never called myself sniffle... [10:09] cg999: you study that and you will find out why you can't boot and run your kernel [10:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Nick change: whiskers -> whiskas [10:10] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:10] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:10] ok, going for 2.6.32-rc1 [10:10] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:10] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:11] mingdao, it does boot, just lilo wont accept /dev/sda3 is the root [10:11] cg999: boot and run [10:11] cg999: why should it? You have / on a PATA drive. [10:11] i booted it with /dev/hdb3 and it said its not valid and gave me a list of partitions as sd* [10:11] You are a suuuuuupppppeeeerrrr genius. [10:11] pouet [10:12] cg999: just read the little document [10:12] thrice`: are you running nvidia hardware? [10:12] Camarade_Tux: i'm [10:12] init[1] STOP YELLOWING ON MY SCREEN! [10:12] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] init[1]: which kernel? [10:13] Quiznos: what do i have jaudice ? [10:13] Camarade_Tux: default , [10:13] init[1]: I'm looking for someone with >= 26.31 ;) [10:13] aah,nvm [10:14] Camarade_Tux: 2.6.31? [10:14] heyz Camarade_Tux i tried to get 2.6.31 and it r fail [10:14] init[1] pissing words by /me's [10:14] highlighted in yellow [10:14] Quiznos: aah, :D [10:14] mingdao: yeah ;) [10:14] cg999, define "and it r fail" [10:14] Quiznos: change your theme then ;) [10:15] what is it doing or not doing? [10:15] no [10:15] cg999: *you* should stay on .29 ;p [10:15] it's my theme and i'll kepp it [10:15] TwinReverb: lack of ability to properly configure a kernel [10:15] <[Nobody]> Define: It r fail "And it has failed" [10:15] Quiznos: then /ingnore me :( [10:15] cg999: I just started 'make oldconfig' and I'll be done in a few minutes, I only have a few things to change ;) [10:15] /ignore [10:15] you're not worthy of /ignore [10:15] Camarade_Tux: I missed a bit of your request ... [10:15] lol [10:15] Action: init[1] \o/ [10:15] hey children ... [10:15] mingdao, don't assume please (at least not yet) [10:15] did that come out be yello ? [10:15] do nvidia drivers work on 2.6.31 or 2.6.32? [10:15] yes [10:16] assume? [10:16] <[Nobody]> i don't kno why my drive sda in the new kernel so that fails [10:16] ass u me what? [10:16] tux not your yes [10:16] mingdao: yeah, sure, I'll probably be trying nouveau too ;) [10:16] [10:16] Quiznos: what my eyes? :o [10:16] heh [10:16] Camarade_Tux my bare "yes" [10:16] [Nobody]: change the fstab then! [10:16] Quiznos: oh, as you see my eyes are failing ;p [10:16] nop [10:17] 22:08 < Camarade_Tux> init[1]: I'm looking for someone with >= 26.31 ;) [10:17] Camarade_Tux buy a bottle of Beta carotene. [10:19] Quiznos: he :P [10:19] [Nobody], are you also cg999? [10:19] Camarade_Tux: the fstab is set to /dev/hdb3 already [10:19] and yeah [10:19] Camarade_Tux helped me immensely [10:19] Quiznos: have you used qemu moniter ? [10:19] nop [10:19] init[1]: qemu, i can help you :) [10:19] [Nobody]: did you read the doc I posted for you? [10:19] spook: this thing in monitor,scrolls up really fast [10:19] without swap, qemu is problematic. [10:19] cg999: try /dev/sdb3, you can boot on another linux to change that if you want [10:19] spook: is there any pager for it ? [10:19] 1gb ram aint enuf [10:19] spook: smthing like | more ? [10:19] init[1]: using sdl? [10:19] i dont have any other linux's workig [10:19] spook: yes [10:19] cg999: This is why your kernel won't boot, from your http://pastebin.ca/1591517: [10:19] init[1]: no sorry. [10:19] 914. # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX is not set [10:19] spook: try to use the monitor and use the *info pci* smthing [10:20] cg999: You have a PATA hard drive and you did not compile support for it. [10:20] wtf. i did [10:20] the SiS pata support [10:20] init[1]: only thing i can suggest is invoke qemu using -monitor stdio and copy/paste to a file [10:20] That was your pastebin [10:20] and yeah it will boot [10:20] but it thinks its sd* [10:20] nto hd* [10:20] cg999: uname -a [10:20] spook: ah ok,will try that , [10:20] Linux a 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:52:54 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [10:21] cg999: that isn't your 2.6.31.1 kernel [10:21] 22:21:07 up 254 days, 7:24, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 [10:21] exactly [10:21] Action: spook starts an epenis competition [10:21] what's a good replacement for sendmail? [10:21] ----------==============>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [10:21] spook: I'm two of your users ;) [10:21] cuz lilo wont allow sd* as root [10:21] Quiznos: exim. postfix [10:21] ty [10:21] mingdao: no, you're not. [10:21] prove it [10:22] mingdao, it won't boot because lilo doesn't allow me to put partitions that don't exist to the current kernel in lilo.conf [10:22] cg999: you need to get back to Ubuntu ... really [10:22] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:22] mingdao: becauses you dont have an account [10:22] ubuntu died [10:22] i deleted its partition [10:22] you killed it [10:23] you'll kill Slackware, too, given enough time [10:23] nope [10:23] ubuntu killed itself 3 times [10:23] SiS PATA = PITA [10:23] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:23] so i had to kill it myself [10:23] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "Leaving" [10:24] cg999: I have posted a guide that you could follow, but I don't know if you're capable of reading. [10:24] i just read it [10:24] hoobop (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] aigon: why the version? [10:25] hoobop_ (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [10:26] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:27] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] "SmartJoy PLUS" <- looks like a sextoy name [10:28] lol [10:28] hahaha [10:28] cg999: look in your .config -> PCI IDE chipsets support [10:29] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:29] cg999: nothing is enabled [10:30] :| ? [10:30] cg999: therefore, you kp [10:31] wtf u mean? [10:31] i dont get a kp [10:31] i only get a kp if it gets hdb instead of sd* [10:31] i'm just going to make a grub floppy [10:31] and boot it off of that [10:32] cg999: you have an IDE drive that / is on, and you have no support for it in your kernel .config [10:33] cg999: I don't think I've ever met anyone as dense as you. [10:33] you said it was pata [10:33] and it works [10:33] Living where I do, that is saying something. [10:33] the kernel boots but locks my fs into read only [10:34] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] cg999: and you also can't use a Slackware .config and finish make in 10 minutes as you said. [10:35] i said 30 mins [10:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] bs on 30 minutes [10:36] mingdao@paul:~/kernel/linux-2.6.31.1$ time make [10:36] 6125.57user 529.78system 1:51:53elapsed 99%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k [10:36] Channel flood from mingdao -- kicking [10:36] 0inputs+0outputs (1896major+58658874minor)pagefaults 0swaps [10:36] mingdao kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:36] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [10:39] model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz [10:39] 1 hour 51 O_O? [10:39] but your 2.0 did it in 30? yeah, right [10:39] brown eyes [10:39] if it took any longer than 1 hour i'd of just cancelled it [10:39] anyone know about OCNFIG_DEVTMPFS? "Create a kernel maintained /dev tmpfs (EXPERIMENTAL)" [10:39] cg999: you might be that stupid ... [10:39] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:40] Action: pri4pus is amazed: fluxbox + mrxvt(centerim, irssi, mc, + 2 more tabs) + firefox = 550900k RAM, xfce4 + terminal(centerim, irssi, mc + 2 more tabs) + firefox = 2000000k RAM + swap [10:40] wait. the last try i don't know how long it took [10:40] cuz i went to bed [10:41] wow, the staging drivers section in the kernel has become *huge* [10:41] Camarade_Tux: which kernel? [10:41] mingdao: 2;6.32 :D [10:41] Action: hitest likes fluxbox as well, very nice:) [10:41] didn't notice it on 2.6.31.1 [10:41] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [10:41] mingdao: it's very recent ;) [10:41] Action: edman007 kicks nix_chix0r [10:42] 2.6.32-rc1? [10:42] mingdao: almost -rc2 [10:42] AkiraYuki (n=Unknown@ip-174-104.sn3.eutelia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] Camarade_Tux: there is no -rc2 on kernel.org [10:43] Camarade_Tux: devtmpfs is thought as replacement for the dev package in a I think. Supposed to speed up boot a bit as well [10:43] latest snapshot is 2.6.32-rc1-git6 [10:43] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:43] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:43] spook: ty , it worked :) [10:43] init[1]: np [10:43] nix_chix0r: hows it going gurlfriend? [10:43] -moniter stdio | tee /tmp/monitor [10:43] pprkut: that's what I inferred but I also guessed it'd take changes to udev too... [10:44] mingdao: almost, it'll be out on tomorrow :P [10:45] [Nobody]: you know, configuring a kernel isn't really trivial, take this new option: [10:45] CONFIG_I2C_COMPAT "Say Y here if you intend to run lm-sensors 3.1.1 or older" [10:45] ls /var/log/packages/lm_sensors-3.1.1-x86_64-1 [10:46] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Camarade_Tux: that I don't know either [10:49] arghh, why can't i mkfs.msdos or mkfs.vfat ? [10:49] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] mkdosfs [10:49] pri4pus (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [10:49] cause your command is wrong cg999 [10:49] Pig_Pen_ (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:49] cg999: mkdosfs -F32 -v /dev/hdb3 [10:49] kthx Camarade_Tux [10:49] fat32? [10:49] i need fat [10:50] i'm making a grub floppy [10:50] i just did mkdosfs /dev/fd0 [10:50] Pig_Pen_ (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Client Quit [10:50] cg999: why grub? [10:50] why fat? [10:50] he's feeding my chickens ;) [10:50] because lilo won't let me give a kernel its root partition unless it exists on the current kernel [10:51] fat grubs [10:51] hi spoo [10:51] er spook [10:51] cg999: huh? [10:51] he thinks his PATA drive has morphed into /dev/sdx and so he can edit grub before booting ;) [10:52] hi nix_chix0r [10:52] your awake! [10:52] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@95.69.31.239) joined ##slackware. [10:52] yeah [10:52] Action: mingdao goes for the popcorn and Coke again ;) [10:52] i have nothing to do [10:52] edman007: wait for the NFL games to start [10:52] then you'll have something to do [10:52] probally will go to sleep in a little bit [10:53] Dominian, i don't like watching grown men in spandex playing grab ass [10:53] ha ha [10:53] mingdao: mind sharing? [10:53] hah [10:53] Camarade_Tux: ^^^ [10:53] edman007: I guess you must be "hiding" something if it makes you feel "that" way ;) [10:54] lol [10:54] REBOOTING [10:54] i'm looking through itunes for movies... [10:54] Lexus45 (n=alexey@95.129.162.218) left ##slackware. [10:55] edman007: itunes, bad! [10:55] <[Nobody]> wtf [10:55] <[Nobody]> i just rebooted cg999 [10:55] <[Nobody]> and its still connected [10:55] not really [10:56] Camarade_Tux, the music does not have drm on it anymore, only the movies do, and i don't really care if i'm "renting" it, and i will not buy any movie off of itunes because that will do the drm thing [10:56] won't make me use itunes either [10:56] won't make me stop being against apple either [10:56] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.221.111) left ##slackware. [10:57] Action: edman007 stabs aigon [10:58] cg999 (i=54464f96@gateway/web/freenode/x-cxhywljuptbajsap) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [10:58] i like apple... [10:58] neuro_sys (n=neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] aigon kills edman007 [10:58] fail [10:58] Action: hitest giggles [10:58] and can CTCP VERSION me, but can't speak in third person [10:59] Why not? [10:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] <[Nobody]> arghhh [10:59] edman007: I can't like a company that doesn't give you value for your money and that locks you down as much as apple (which is much more than microsoft ever did) [10:59] <[Nobody]> i got the kernel to boot [10:59] Action: Camarade_Tux can't believe it :D [10:59] <[Nobody]> it still complains that the superblock is corrupt [10:59] <[Nobody]> stupid piece of shit locked my drive into RO [11:00] <[Nobody]> e2fsck says its fine. [11:00] Camarade_Tux, their OS is 90% open source, and their hardware is not that expensive, they just don't sell low end stuff [11:01] What is generic kernel anyway? [11:01] [Nobody], maybe you tried to mount the wrong partition (like /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1) [11:01] edman007: there OS is 10% locked down [11:01] <[Nobody]> nope [11:01] <[Nobody]> i did ls [11:01] aigon: Slackware's generic? [11:01] <[Nobody]> everythings there [11:01] that will give you the superblock error [11:01] edman007: do you trust google? they have open-source products [11:02] <[Nobody]> the superblocks fine [11:02] I heard that Pat runs that kernel. [11:02] edman007: their hardware *is* expensive [11:02] <[Nobody]> its failing when it tries to run e2fsck [11:02] [Nobody], but on the kernel boot line? [11:02] <[Nobody]> yep [11:02] aigon: generic is the slackware kernel that's been heavily modularized. huge is the slackware kernel that has everything plus the kitchen sink built-in to the kernel [11:02] <[Nobody]> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.1 root=/dev/sda3 [11:02] for a PATA drive [11:02] <[Nobody]> i did ls and it says everything is there [11:02] alisonken1home, well i have 2 kitchen sinks in mine! [11:03] edman007: we're talking slackware kernels :) your kernel is obviously _not_ slackware :) [11:03] alisonken1home: does it also have a bath tub? [11:03] jaccuzzi in mine [11:03] It's possible to remove module? [11:04] It's possible to remove modules? [11:04] Camarade_Tux: bathtubs are a luxury item still to be determined if it's stable enough :) [11:04] rmmod module name [11:04] <[Nobody]> hey mingdao, the kernel boots [11:04] alisonken1home, but slackware is in the swimming pool! [11:04] <[Nobody]> just it thinks the superblock is corrupt, and its mounted / as read-only [11:04] aigon: you want to remove a module from the running kernel? [11:04] [Nobody], so restore it [11:04] yes, i do [11:04] <[Nobody]> i can't unmount / [11:04] you should have a few backup superblocks [11:05] <[Nobody]> the superblock isnt corrupt [11:05] alisonken1home: ='( [11:05] <[Nobody]> i typed e2fsck /dev/sda3 [11:05] <[Nobody]> it says its clean [11:05] Action: Camarade_Tux bets on a bad fstab [11:05] Camarade_Tux: PEBKAC [11:06] aigon: rmmod [11:06] <[Nobody]> yeah fstab is for my old slackware [11:06] aigon: do you want it not to load next time you boot also? [11:06] [Nobody], i'm getting all this conflicting info: <[Nobody]> its failing when it tries to run e2fsck [11:06] <[Nobody]> if i change fstab wont i kill the old kernel too? [11:07] <[Nobody]> when the kernel tries to run e2fsck it fails so drops me into a root shell [11:07] <[Nobody]> i run e2fsck on it and it says its clean [11:07] [Nobody], is ext2/3/4 set as <*> in the kernel config? [11:07] <[Nobody]> yep [11:07] config save, let's make [11:07] <[Nobody]> i checked it found it [11:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:08] <[Nobody]> df -T says its ext4 [11:08] <[Nobody]> and i can do ls and read all the files [11:08] [Nobody]: seems both kernels can't work with the same fstab, make a choice [11:08] <[Nobody]> just its locked as readonly [11:09] <[Nobody]> wtf [11:09] <[Nobody]> it can't even do reboot [11:09] pouet pouet [11:09] in the config he pasted ext2_fs is not set [11:09] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [11:09] <[Nobody]> its not ext2. [11:09] <[Nobody]> its ext4 [11:09] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [11:09] 23:02 < TwinReverb> [Nobody], is ext2/3/4 set as <*> in the kernel config? [11:09] 23:02 < [Nobody]> yep [11:09] I have a backup kernel. [11:10] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [11:10] i don't see a conflict there, i said ext2 OR 3 OR 4 [11:10] <[Nobody]> OW [11:10] <[Nobody]> i can't mount /boot [11:10] <[Nobody]> O_O [11:10] <[Nobody]> damn it, i should have had my /boot as ext3 [11:11] aigon: do you want to remove the module just temporarily? Or not have it load next time you boot? [11:11] i doubt that's the problem [11:11] <[Nobody]> i know it isnt the problem [11:11] for ever and ever!! [11:11] aigon: add the module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [11:11] <[Nobody]> i have a sys rescue cd, i'll just change my fstab, and if it fails i can easily fix it [11:12] pprkut: you have to update the slackbuild on sbo! :P [11:12] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.208) left irc: "Leaving." [11:12] 185.18.14 -> .36 :P [11:12] Camarade_Tux: look again :P [11:12] TwinReverb: the problem seems to be he has a PATA drive and no module enabled for it in PCI IDE chipsets support [11:13] or 190 [11:13] pprkut: just a sec ;) [11:13] nah, that's beta [11:13] I do beta's only for special reasons [11:13] I'm going to run a 2.6.32 kernel, I'll probably need that ;) [11:13] <[Nobody]> mingdao, that can't be the problem [11:13] <[Nobody]> it mounts my harddrive fine [11:13] <[Nobody]> its the same with EVERY other linux [11:14] <[Nobody]> just not slackwares [11:14] pprkut: 185.19? [11:14] Camarade_Tux: may I point you to github then? ;) [11:14] TwinReverb: so he's trying to boot it as /dev/sda3 rather than /dev/hdb3 as his /etc/fstab says [11:14] <[Nobody]> every linux mounts it as sd* except slackware so far [11:14] that one's older than 185.18.x [11:14] <[Nobody]> i'm changing fstab now [11:14] mshade (n=mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:14] pprkut: haha, right :P [11:14] TwinReverb: this is the fstab he posted yesterday -> http://pastebin.ca/1591549 [11:14] he's a real comic [11:14] [Nobody], that's because they hacked their kernels to call everything /dev/sd* [11:15] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [11:15] they're being retarded in my opinion [11:15] pprkut: I can't remember, how's the sbo going with x86-64? [11:15] <[Nobody]> i'ma changing the fstab now [11:15] TwinReverb: and this is his .config he posted -> http://pastebin.ca/1591517 [11:15] TwinReverb: it's not hacked, it's called libata [11:15] <[Nobody]> i guess a lot of distros use it [11:15] mingdao, maybe he'd be able to learn if the environment was more conducive, i.e. if you stopped clowning on him [11:15] pprkut, whatever [11:15] Camarade_Tux: what do you mean? [11:16] pprkut++ [11:16] Camarade_Tux: the x86 and x86_64 sources are both linked with the same slackbuild script. and oyu just pass ARCH as x86_64. [11:16] TwinReverb: we did every hand holding trick in the book yesterday ... didn't take with him [11:16] mingdao, well clowning on him won't work either [11:16] pprkut: I just realized he download link points to x86, not x86_64 [11:16] some people have to learn by experience i guess [11:16] but shouldn't the .run file be different? [11:16] TwinReverb: some people do [11:16] Camarade_Tux: wrong link then [11:16] Camarade_Tux: is there not a second source link? all of the slackbulds i've gotten had them both. [11:16] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:17] pprkut: was maybe my fault [11:17] giuppy (n=giuppy@host48-162-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:17] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:17] TwinReverb: I haven't totally clowned on him ... I posted a special made guide just for him [11:17] <[Nobody]> woot [11:17] is there minimal kernel compilation to use with slack? [11:17] <[Nobody]> i changed fstab [11:17] <[Nobody]> and it works now! [11:19] ok, I know [11:19] Camarade_Tux: which version are you going for? [11:19] <[Nobody]> holy shit its booted x! [11:19] I have to update my sbopkg [11:19] <[Nobody]> holy fuck... it actually works fine! [11:19] Action: Camarade_Tux is really surprised [11:19] <[Nobody]> hey mingdao! i got to the x login screen [11:19] <[Nobody]> on the NEW kernel [11:19] [Nobody]: congratulations! [11:19] <[Nobody]> wewt i successfully built a kernel [11:19] post your fstab so we can see what you did [11:19] "sd" ^^ [11:19] Action: mingdao pops the cork on a glass of tea [11:19] Action: pprkut uses /dev/disk/by-uuid/ in fstab [11:19] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:19] Action: alisonken1home pops the top on another cup of coffee [11:19] pprkut: he did before [11:19] cg999 (i=54464f96@gateway/web/freenode/x-jsxwouypjqhvoedn) joined ##slackware. [11:19] ohai [11:19] mingdao: and it wasn't working? strange... [11:19] pprkut: http://pastebin.ca/1591549 [11:19] with vimdiff, what's the command to move something from one side to the other? [11:20] -y [11:20] mingdao: http://pastebin.com/d5a9c243c [11:20] oh, no, sorry comhack [11:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] chris@a:~$ uname -a Linux a 2.6.31.1 #2 SMP Sat Oct 3 14:30:40 BST 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [11:20] mingdao: that's not fstab :P [11:20] :D! [11:20] you have /boot and / on two different drives? [11:21] yeah? [11:21] pprkut: did I post his lilo.conf? [11:21] yes [11:21] i used grub to boot this one [11:21] cuz lilo failed [11:21] grub floppy ftw. [11:21] cg999: kinda late to clue us in on the two different drives [11:21] sbo0 (i=54facfa5@gateway/web/freenode/x-umfbvxeznafigifi) joined ##slackware. [11:21] hi [11:21] does this have lotus notes somewhere [11:21] mingdao, i didnt enable any ide controllers rite? [11:22] so how is this working? [11:22] sbo0: what's "this" ? [11:22] i thought slackware [11:22] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [11:22] umm, is there some way to install the ext2 module? [11:23] cuz now lilo isn't gonna work [11:23] sbo0: if there is a lotus notes for linux, it will most probably work on slackware [11:24] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-118-83.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:24] is it in what repos [11:24] cg999: cause / is not on /dev/hdb as you reported [11:24] mingdao: where do i get an EXT2 fs module sdince i forgot to tick it [11:25] mingdao, the old kernel has it as hdb [11:26] i think slackware had lotus notes cus my workplace uses it and i read this is the oldest linux out there [11:27] mingdao: mingdao mingdao mingdao mingdao mingdao mingdao mingdao [11:27] at the end of the sbopkg rsync, I got a message "gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/tux/.g", and it got cut [11:28] ding dang man [11:28] now, what should these be? I own everything and the perms are 600 [11:28] and now, "GPG check failed" [11:28] cg999: I don't use ext anything filesystems, but afaik if you don't have a ext2 you don't need it in your kernel [11:28] my /boot is ext2 [11:28] so i can't run lilo to update the map file [11:29] i'll have to keep using my grub floppy cuz of this. [11:29] cg999: we can fix it easy enough [11:29] cg999, just out of curiosity, which version of slack are you running? [11:29] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [11:29] cg999: and now that you are running Slackware lilo will probably work [11:29] 13 [11:30] ah http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2005-March/025320.html [11:30] oh, i just remembered [11:30] hmmm [11:30] mshade (n=mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] theres a "make modules_install" [11:30] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FEDDB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] uhh, what module will ext2 be? [11:32] filesystems >> ext2 or so [11:32] if I go from 11.1 to 12.1 using a dvd to install, should I wipe /usr? as it is, it has its own separate partition from / [11:32] MODULE, not location [11:33] you should see a menu allowing you to choose ext2, xxx3, reiserfs, etc [11:33] cg999: run "make menuconfig" [11:33] raelakoira: /usr is for the programs that should be compiled against the current kernel. I usually put /home on a separate partition but leave /usr on the root partition [11:33] donoban (i=1000@77.211.222.199) joined ##slackware. [11:34] cg999: when it starts then press / and type ext2 [11:34] oh, wait, this laptop is different. looks like /usr is on / [11:34] cg999: you can also run make xconfig and you'll get a pretty friendly (and annotated) gui thingy that will present the various choices [11:34] my other laptop has /usr separate [11:34] hmmm, nvidia 190.36 will never work with kernel 2.6.32 [11:34] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-151.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:34] cg999: that will tell you where it's located in the .config [11:34] Miroku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:35] upgrading is such a hassle :/ but openoffice 3 and skype won't run on it [11:35] cg999: and I agree with hoobop that xconfig is much nicer [11:35] hoobop: only doesn't work if you don't install Qt ... and I don't anymore [11:36] raelakoira: which version? I run both OOo and skype on mine (13.0) [11:36] Pig_Pen_ (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [11:36] Camarade_Tux: hm? [11:36] 11.1. both run fine on my other one (which had 12.1 then the rc before 13.0) [11:37] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.186.123) joined ##slackware. [11:37] raelakoira: OOo 3.1.1 and Skype 2.0.0.72 on Slackware64 and Slackware 13.0 here [11:37] pprkut: it's as old as 2.6.32-rc1 [11:37] yeah, that's why I'm upgrading. I have two laptops [11:38] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:38] I'm just sad to lose all of the software I have on it. I don't know if there's anything I've installed that I'll want again but forget [11:38] I guess I'll just install as I think of things [11:39] Pig_Pen__ (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Nick change: Pig_Pen__ -> RipVanWinkle [11:39] Camarade_Tux: tried it yet? [11:39] Camarade_Tux: Nvidia releases drivers after the kernel releases. [11:39] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:39] raelakoira: tar it up and save it somewhere else [11:39] pprkut: installing kernel now [11:40] mingdao: yeah, I know ;) [11:40] ok, tell me how it went :) [11:40] hey, it's already -rc2 actually (the kernel) [11:40] brb :) [11:42] let's see [11:42] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Camarade_Tux: How is goin'? [11:43] aigon: 404 not found for the sources :D [11:44] hmmm [11:44] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [11:45] try again! [11:45] bah [11:45] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.56.149) joined ##slackware. [11:45] no, seems I can't go to us.download.nvidia.com, I get "file not found" (in links) everytime [11:45] morning everyone [11:46] hi nachox [11:46] can anyone provide me with a working link? :P [11:46] yo nachox [11:46] ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/190.36/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-190.36-pkg0.run [11:46] sbo0 (i=54facfa5@gateway/web/freenode/x-umfbvxeznafigifi) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [11:47] pprkut: yeah, just 'download.nvidia.com' instead of 'us.download.nvidia.com' ;) [11:48] woot, doesn't work :) [11:48] ok, actually works :o [11:48] Camarade_Tux: use aria2 to d/l it [11:49] but always as many warnings... [11:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.87.61) joined ##slackware. [11:50] anyone got a list of programs you probably don't want users to be able to run on a public linux computer? i know of some but i wanted to get y'all's input [11:50] yes? :P [11:50] bash ;) [11:50] ha ... ha ... ha ... [11:51] bah, I'm still runing 2.6.30 :D [11:51] Action: Camarade_Tux hides :P [11:52] lol [11:54] Action: init[1] \o/ found the data sheet for 82371SB [11:54] brb :P [11:55] oh, I had almost forgotten to run lilo :D [11:55] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [11:55] /boot/vmlinuz? ;) [11:56] Camarade_Tux: are you getting that nvidia driver for the new kernel you're building? [11:56] mingdao: yes [11:57] "prerelease" versions such as "2.6.23-rc1" are not supported [11:57] BP{k}: I use /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32 so I need to change lilo.conf ;) [11:59] mingdao: but that doesn't prevent them from running [11:59] as long as the kernel hasn't broken the api, it's ok [11:59] Camarade_Tux: hehe, it was more a late sarcastic remark to TwinReverb ;) [11:59] I've even done a few changes sometimes [11:59] BP{k}: I hadn't seen his message ;) [11:59] BP{k}, :P [11:59] I really need to get rid of serio.debug in the kernel, makes dmesg unreadable... [12:00] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [12:00] yeah, it installed the kernel for the older kernel [12:00] TwinReverb: a lot depends on 1) how public 2) who is going to use it (ie: know your "market") 3) what is it intended use. [12:02] [007aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.215) joined ##slackware. [12:02] <[007aLinux]> ? [12:02] [007aLinux] (n=aLinux@113.11.36.215) left ##slackware. [12:02] yeah i know, i'm analyzing the contents of /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin etc [12:02] but i wish there was sort of a starting list but whatever [12:02] lol [12:02] the splash screen is [12:02] "NVIDIA" [12:02] "beta driver" [12:02] ;) [12:02] i just need enough to keep the average Joe User from destroying this public computer [12:03] Camarade_Tux: NoLogo :) [12:03] pprkut: no, it reminds me I have to get rid of that driver [12:03] pprkut: and now, I can :) [12:03] hehe [12:03] TwinReverb: I would probably leave most of the development tools of [12:04] I am running git kernels and I needed another git for nouveau [12:04] wasn't very handy, now it should be easier :) [12:04] BP{k}, which packages? [12:04] i just chmod o-wrx make gcc [12:06] make it +s :D [12:06] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@24-148-91-219.c3-0.stk-ubr1.chi-stk.il.cable.rcn.com) left ##slackware ("Ch'ab'ej chik"). [12:06] whiskas (n=mc@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [12:06] let's put nouveau now :) [12:08] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.87.61) joined ##slackware. [12:09] a1g_ (n=a1g@66-169-42-166.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:09] Nick change: a1g_ -> Guest90778 [12:09] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:09] arghh i can't get the ext2 module to work [12:09] it had errors when i did make modules [12:10] Topic changed on ##slackware by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.56.149: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 13.0 Released August 26, 2009 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: samba,php | new official port: ARMedslack [12:10] cg999, what filesystem is your dang computer? [12:10] the root FS [12:10] the boot partition is ext2 [12:10] the roto fs is ext4 [12:10] root* [12:10] new slackware security updates everyone [12:10] i need ext2 so i can rewrite lilo [12:10] seriously, just make ext2, ext3, and ext4 <*> [12:10] installed already [12:10] or boot a stock kernel like the huge kernel [12:11] i've already made the kernel [12:12] Guest90778 (n=a1g@66-169-42-166.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:12] then make it again or boot huge so you can rewrite /boot [12:12] compile the kernel AGAIN!? [12:12] or use an initrd [12:13] or something [12:13] cg999: I told you earlier ... and if you just add support for ext2 into your kernel, it won't take long to make and install [12:13] weird [12:14] well it knows what you compiled last [12:14] i doubt it would take long [12:14] the .config i used for make, and the config from /proc/config.gz is different [12:14] Guest90778 (n=a1g@66-169-42-166.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:15] ohhh i forgot i just tried to install ext2 as a module [12:15] cg999: so where did you build it? do you think the .config just flew off? [12:15] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:15] why the heck do you have a separate /boot ? [12:15] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:15] won't do nouveau yet [12:15] ##slackware: mode change '-o nachox' by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.56.149 [12:15] still annoying to install [12:16] wait, SHIT [12:16] Action: Camarade_Tux loves when nachox gets +o \o: [12:16] how do i install the kernel if /boot is not mountable? [12:16] s/:/\// [12:16] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:16] Nick change: Guest90778 -> a1g [12:16] ? [12:16] nachox: because it most usually means updates to -current and I love updates to -current :P [12:17] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Client Quit [12:17] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:17] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:17] guys, unless you need aditional drivers that are not part of the standard slackware kernel, compiling a new kernel is a bad idea [12:17] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:17] it makes things more complicated to debug when things break for people helping you [12:18] Camarade_Tux, not really, it usually means there are security updates or misbehaving users [12:18] disagree; intel users will very much benefit from newer kernels [12:18] nachox: but not this time at least :P [12:18] s/most usually/often/ ;) [12:19] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:19] thrice`, how so? pat does update the kernel when there are problems worth the update [12:19] because 2.6.29 sucked for intel cards [12:19] oahong` (n=user@220.112.127.189) joined ##slackware. [12:20] ercula (n=ercula@75-168-246-100.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] ick, I think the dns server I use took a nosedive or something [12:20] oahong (n=user@220.112.127.189) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:20] connected fine to irc, but I can't pull up any websites [12:20] my motivation for switching to 2.6.32 (or at least .31) was the perf counters [12:20] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:20] Nick change: raelakoira -> raela [12:20] btw, it takes userland tools which depend on a library without a real upstream... [12:20] raela: use opendns [12:20] hehe [12:21] cg999: how? I'd google but uh.. google won't load [12:21] ercula (n=ercula@75-168-246-100.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:21] raela: http://208.69.38.150/ [12:21] AlexElliott: thanks [12:21] nachox, only a bad idea if you want support from us, sure, but i'd assume most decent troubleshooters / helpers in here know to ask about if they compiled kernel and what they changed [12:21] ns1 208.67.222.222 ns2 208.67.220.220 [12:22] hrm, opendns is taking forever to load. maybe something else is going on as well [12:22] raela [12:22] i just gave you the ns's [12:22] besides, you can cp generic-smp config to the build dir and make oldconfig [12:22] make oldconfig is still pretty hard [12:22] cg999: thanks [12:23] TwinReverb, yes, of course, the problem is that a new kernel means a lot of variables to consider and makes it really hard to reproduce the situation in which the user had the problem [12:23] ercula (n=ercula@75-168-246-100.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] assuming at that point you make everything that has that option, and otherwise use the default of the choice, you are probably fine [12:23] nachox, true but usually "what did you do last?" "compile new kernel" "and did it work under generic-smp?" "yes" is enough [12:23] it's not alway possible [12:23] ercula (n=ercula@75-168-246-100.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:23] what about CONFIG_TREE_RCU? xD [12:23] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:24] i mean, if that's your policy, sure, but it's not mine: normally i can figure it out (and i'm definitely inferior to you in terms of experience and knowledge) [12:24] Nick change: oahong` -> oahong [12:24] crap, i did make and its making everything [12:24] control c [12:24] cg999: expected [12:24] Camarade_Tux, well even the new option to pick kernel compression type iirc defaults to LZMA but any of the three choices won't really matter imho [12:24] i only added ext2 support to the .config [12:24] but there are exceptions to every rule i guess [12:24] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:25] it defaults to gzip TwinReverb [12:25] cg999, fwiw make any FS that you use <*>. that should be smart. [12:25] i did [12:25] TwinReverb: for my 2.6.30 -> 2.6.32, some options weren't easy at all [12:25] mingdao, and gzip won't matter honestly [12:25] if choosing LZMA caused you to not be able to boot your kernel, i think you have other issues, but that's just my take on it [12:25] Camarade_Tux, but you also used a release candidate iirc right? [12:26] gzip's faster to extract and makes boot faster than lzma [12:26] how do i make it build only new things? [12:26] TwinReverb: yeah but that doesn't matter on the options [12:26] nachox's advice was good for most people ... such as cg999 [12:26] cg999: you don't, you changed something that forces everything to be rebuilt [12:26] Camarade_Tux, i said problems [12:27] damn it [12:27] let's get this perf counter thing [12:27] cg999, it should build only new things [12:27] cg999: just do it already [12:27] unless you cleaned the build tree, in which case you'll have to build again [12:27] Action: TwinReverb shakes his head in frustration [12:27] TwinReverb: oh, yeah, if I have problems, I'll go back, I always have several kernels ;) [12:28] <[Nobody]> k i'ma do make -j10 to make it faster [12:28] fwiw everyone should keep either huge or generic as a failsafe in their lilo.conf [12:28] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.87.61) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] TwinReverb: or you changed something like timer frequency, ticklessness, arch... [12:28] ALWAYS [12:28] [Nobody]: nothing past -j3 is going to help you [12:28] that way if we're troubleshooting and we think it's your kernel, we can have you boot one of those and prove/disprove that theory [12:28] [Nobody]: actually no job flags will help on your P4 [12:28] if kernel.org [12:28] imho 4 threads per core/processor [12:29] bah [12:29] if kernel.org has a user-land tool, it'll be shipped with slackware, right? [12:29] a friend on 2cpu.com tested that theory a while back, that seemed to be the sweet spot (assuming you want your kernel as fast as possible and you are doing nothing else) [12:29] ncores+1 [12:29] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] TwinReverb: what he said ^^ [12:30] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [12:30] if you know what the job flag is for [12:30] unless you're unlucky and get thread starvation later on [12:30] mingdao, yes i do [12:30] i tested 2cpu.com's theory and it proved to be correct [12:30] and since pup dog has a single core cpu [12:30] TwinReverb: show us [12:30] but hey it's your life / time / system / choice [12:30] nah, you can /join #2cpu if you want [12:30] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@71-217-250-239.stcd.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:30] I'll only believe it if you show us. [12:30] the article is old [12:30] cg999 (i=54464f96@gateway/web/freenode/x-jsxwouypjqhvoedn) left irc: "Page closed" [12:30] the advice is bad [12:31] <[Nobody]> k i'ma try -j4 [12:31] <[Nobody]> holy shit this is slow [12:31] I've been over this in ##kernel with kernel devels, and we ran tests time it. [12:31] <[Nobody]> and laggy... [12:32] [Nobody]: take a break and enjoy the weather ;) [12:32] newbie (n=Salme200@41.252.35.68) joined ##slackware. [12:32] i imagine it can't scale well on a system with many cores and your typical storage [12:32] for the record, if anyone is interested in the "perf" tool from >= 2.6.31 kernels for perf counters, here is what fails on slackware [12:33] Makefile:419: *** No libelf.h/libelf found, please install libelf-dev/elfutils-libelf-devel. Stop. [12:33] the other time someone discouraged me to mIRC and suggested me to xchat ... was that right & why? [12:33] newbie: what does that have to do with slackware? mirc is not available on linux [12:33] newbie: Xchat has freedom :) [12:34] http://2cpu.com/How-To/article3.htm [12:34] <[Nobody]> i hate xchat [12:34] ananke: don't expect newbies to know everything at once [12:34] for me, -j8 is very fast (core 2 duo) [12:34] core 2 quad? [12:34] <[Nobody]> icechat ftw, the new version is going to be in c# so cross-platform [12:34] i gave it a try but i didn't like it either [12:34] newbie: i expect them to exercise basic logic [12:34] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-1-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:34] i mean the xchat [12:34] core2duo won't benefit from anything over -j4 :> [12:34] c#, yuck [12:35] -j8 also was the fastest on my dual pentium 3 machine [12:35] c# is NOT CROSSPLATFORM [12:35] but hey feel free to experiment [12:35] i might re-re-test their recommendations some time (next kernel release probably, if i have time) [12:35] anank: logic is a relative thing and makes snese to you doesn't do many others [12:35] newbie: you may want to visit #xchat and #mirc for the advocacy on each product [12:35] if the process isn't highly parallel, it'll get starvated later on [12:35] (it's when it can only do one thing at a time) [12:35] anyway let's on my question as i'm the newbie and you're the expert here [12:35] newbie: logic isn't relative [12:36] Ignacio_ (n=Ignacio@190.51.18.199) joined ##slackware. [12:36] newbie: try irssi ;) [12:36] expert with ego maybe [12:36] Action: init[1] suspects newbie to be linuxexpert :> [12:36] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.56.149) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:36] I'll do that init[1] [12:36] Nick change: Ignacio_ -> nachox [12:37] the -j N in the link assumes that NOTHING else is running (so if you're still using the machine, you probably want to use fewer simultaneous compile threads) [12:37] newbie: linuxexpert is a nick [12:39] is it? [12:39] or a knock ;) [12:39] Action: init[1] :D [12:39] hey mingdao [12:39] hey newbie [12:39] who were you before? [12:39] Nick change: mingdao -> monkey [12:39] hes finally seen the error of his ways? [12:39] i was using some numeric guest ass nick yesterday [12:39] Nick change: monkey -> uncle [12:39] I thought it was a NACK [12:39] Nick change: init[1] -> godzilla [12:39] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Nick change: uncle -> mingdao [12:39] TwinReverb: from this article i can't draw a conclusion that larger value of N for make -j N would be beneficial [12:40] i'm amazed that you can't [12:40] ARGH! [12:40] elfutils-0.143-1.fc12.src.rpm [12:40] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.18.199) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:40] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:40] Action: Camarade_Tux goes back trying to find a source [12:40] TwinReverb: N=1 4:35, N=2 2:44, N=3 2:42 [12:40] guys what is the simplest site or book to teach linux very basic commands that everyone should learn? [12:40] ah [12:40] https://fedorahosted.org/releases/e/l/elfutils/ [12:40] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [12:41] TwinReverb: it levels off right away [12:41] ananke: me, neither [12:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:41] don't give me some hard ass things cause they bore me and make me run to the hells [12:41] newbie, slackware linux unleashed [12:41] oh man [12:41] ananke, doesn't look like it to me [12:41] i have that in arabic language [12:41] it pissed me off [12:41] crocket_1111 (n=dfas@212.183.134.131) joined ##slackware. [12:42] i bought the book then found out some egyption ass translate the whole thing to arabic [12:42] he should left some basic english terms [12:42] TwinReverb: -j2 resulted in compile time taking 2:44, while -j3 took 2:42. beyond that, with larger values, the compile time took virtually the same amount of time [12:42] but did the whole thing ... so once you're reading the book it's the same you before doing so [12:42] Hey guys newly installed Slackware system and I have an error when configuring Lilo, it gives me "Warning: Unable to determine video adapter in use in the present system" - How can I correct this? I want a pretty boot up [12:42] newbie: slackbook might help you fire up! [12:43] TwinReverb: so i'm not sure how you can draw a conclusion that larger value would produce better results, if it clearly didn't? [12:43] anahel, better if you don't like waiting [12:43] is that a book name? [12:43] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:43] one day I'll simulate that [12:43] newbie, yes [12:43] TwinReverb: but you wait the same amount of time [12:43] probably not sold any more [12:43] slackware unleashed is it available as a free online pdf? [12:43] ananke, at -j 16 you are 2:35 [12:44] newbie, probably not [12:44] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:44] much less that's 1999 and it's a dual celeron [12:44] oh man ... i'm done paying for usless books [12:44] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:44] yeah, https://fedorahosted.org/releases/e/l/elfutils/ is the good source [12:44] like i said, next kernel release, i'll probably re-test [12:44] i have bunch of them if anyone wants to come up and collect [12:45] Camarade_Tux: can't you take it from slackware source ? [12:45] TwinReverb: that virtually falls into the margin of statistical error, it's not conclusive [12:45] godzilla: not there [12:45] -j16 will not compile any faster on your c2d than -j5, I'd almost guarentee [12:45] ananke, uh ok [12:45] is true you guys compile the linux kernal after the installation to tune up the machine? [12:45] granted i said -j8 [12:45] Does noone know? [12:45] thrice`: tested on Core2 Duo and you are right ... nothing over -j4 is any faster [12:45] newbie: don't ;) [12:45] and like i said earlier, with more cores [and faster], you'll hit the I/O barrier much faster [12:46] i'm not ... i don't even know how [12:46] sayed: that is nothing to worry about [12:46] it's limited the the procs ( / cores) [12:46] my friend told me that and i'm asking if true cause it is not logical to me [12:46] mingdao: I know it's not. But I want the nice Slackware logo and the tuxes while I boot =] [12:46] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: "leaving" [12:46] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [12:46] sayed: you will have them [12:46] not logical ananke [12:46] mingdao++ [12:46] TwinReverb: considering this test was done only on one set of hardware, 1-3% difference is not significant enough [12:47] newbie: keep on trying [12:47] sayed: well, if you run 2.6.29.6 you will have tuz or taz or whatever and not tux [12:47] mingdao: Oh wicked. [12:47] Action: sayed reboots and looks [12:47] Wiiiiiicked! [12:47] ananke is right, try compiling gcc... [12:47] mingdao: Who? [12:48] giuppy (n=giuppy@host48-162-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:48] my little understanding says thing compiled first then we can run them [12:48] ananke, well like i said, next time there's a release i'll re-test (i prefer testing on my machine versus other people's benchmarks, which is (case in point) the reason i switched to ext4) [12:48] how to compile an os that is already runing [12:48] ananke: trying what? [12:48] sayed: who what? [12:48] newbie: how does one compile an OS? [12:48] Camarade_Tux: isn't this what you're looking for --> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libelf/ [12:48] I had my second ext4 failure last week :( [12:48] i have no mingdao [12:48] i'm asking indeed [12:48] newbie: are you linux now ? [12:48] s/you/on/ [12:48] who me? hello no [12:49] ha ha [12:49] do i sound like a linux guy? [12:49] hello no [12:49] donoban (i=1000@77.211.222.199) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:49] hell no * [12:49] newbie: forget about windows ! [12:49] thrice`, ext4 failure? [12:49] see even my typing [12:49] do you wannabe? [12:49] i am very smart like you guys [12:49] newbie: get Windows 7 [12:49] yep, my / was consumed after a kerneloops from hibernate / thaw [12:49] yea mingdao ... i'm a bit more than wannbe [12:49] i'm dying to be but how to [12:49] my english is damn big time ass problem [12:50] KMS caused x.org to be unhappy while resuming, and it panic'ed. hard-reboot caused ext4 corruption [12:50] newbie: [1] leave windows [2] use slackware [12:50] can anyone help with money? [12:50] thrice`: did fsck on it work well? [12:50] lol godzilla [12:50] fsck did not work at all, it was completely hosed [12:50] sorry to hear [12:50] ditto :> [12:51] /home survived, thankfully (also ext4) [12:51] thrice`: people have been complaining about ext4,particularly ubuntinos [12:51] wow [12:51] you're rich too .... [12:51] wth is ext4 default on Slack 13.0? [12:52] mk_ (n=nunes@187.41.72.82) left irc: "leaving" [12:52] no one is interested to teach me for some bucks [12:52] newbie: were you the one a few minutes ago wanted links to read? [12:52] well well well ... smart rich guys [12:52] newbie: we do it for free [12:52] newbie: you question was twisted, [12:52] yep [12:52] that was me mate [12:52] Linux is about community, not bucks. [12:52] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: "leaving" [12:52] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [12:52] newbie: http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/linfaq.html [12:52] newbie: http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [12:52] good thing mingdao [12:52] mingdao, but how to penguins earn money to feed their chicks? [12:53] TwinReverb: they work for SuSE, Linux Foundation, RedHat ;) [12:53] or FSF [12:53] what if the penguins are chicks already TwinReverb? [12:53] exactly ... for distributions that charge money [12:53] TwinReverb: but NONE of them are in ##slackware [12:53] i'm not bashing the community but we ought to support those we appreciate if we expect the community model to thrive [12:53] i'm getting there soon mingdao [12:54] my company is offering me a trip to UK to learn RHEL [12:54] (what i'm saying is pay for a copy of slackware if you can at all afford to) [12:54] cool huh? [12:54] newbie: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm [12:54] newbie: no^ RHEL ! [12:55] TwinReverb: that's irrelevant to his question though [12:55] newbie: just out of curiosity, how did you find your way to this channel? [12:56] newbie: be a SWEL guy :D [12:56] well sometimes only in the sense that some people mean "free software" when they say "community" [12:56] separate concepts but sometimes in our minds they are linked [12:56] probably a symlink though ... [12:56] main reason is RMS, [12:57] he should have named it [12:57] Libre [12:57] istead of FRee [12:57] instead^ [12:57] that would indirectly casue people to think about the meaning [12:57] cause^ [12:57] and understand them ! [12:57] Miroku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:58] Now look what happend, we have to append a quote "Not Free beer" [12:58] newbie: ask them for a RHEL DVD and install it on a separate hard drive [12:59] Nick change: godzilla -> init[1] [12:59] newbie: learn all you can, and advance in your job there [13:00] newbie: learning Slackware is not going to help you much with RHEL [13:00] mwnn (n=user@59.92.197.18) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hi, what should i do set a DVD name while burning a DVD using cdrecord? [13:01] man cdrecord [13:02] but i didn't see it [13:02] TwinReverb: i am still searching [13:02] init[1], i can almost guarantee any time RMS says "community" he implies "free", but that's due to his public speeches [13:03] TwinReverb: Free is still misleading isn't it ? [13:04] unless one graduate from oxford :) [13:05] well it was just my opinion [13:05] yea i agree :) [13:05] community is awesome but we need to pass the offering plate 8-) [13:05] :D [13:06] TwinReverb: actually the DVD name needs to be set when creating the *.iso using mkisofs. [13:06] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [13:09] I was afk sorry mingdao [13:09] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-238-221.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] i happened to make my first slackware 12.1 installation and used the pidgin [13:09] mwnn, my bad [13:09] i am not usre i think it was pdigin and it hapened to offer me this freenode irc server and voila [13:09] here i'm to bug the most unbugable creatures on earth [13:09] TwinReverb: But i am not able to make out the difference b/w the -A (application id) and -V (Volume ID) options. [13:09] newbie: not trying to discourage you from using Slackware [13:09] does that address your question [13:09] i don't think you want application ID [13:09] i think you want volume ID [13:09] TwinReverb: let me try that now [13:09] no problem mingdao ... at least you trying to help [13:09] actually i have been here several times and i like to read your lines on hope that one day i will understand that shit guys talking about it [13:10] lol^ [13:10] shit it is. nothing else. [13:10] ;> [13:11] newbie: take your time, stick with it. read the slackbook and on-line documentation. you'll get it if your persistent. [13:11] about that don't worry hitest. [13:11] sooner or later i will fck bill shtis [13:11] shits [13:11] newbie: at least you are have the urge to learn :) [13:11] i hate windows indeed [13:11] period [13:11] s/have/having/ [13:12] newbie; that's the slacker spirit:) [13:12] pentium3 use SDRAM, right? [13:12] right [13:12] PC133 [13:12] or lower [13:12] init: if i was native english speaker with all these online books you would be asking my ass how to do things buy now [13:12] by* [13:13] lol [13:13] lol [13:13] newbie: i'm not a native english speaker [13:13] i [13:13] what is your first language then? [13:13] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [13:13] http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=208432&cat=boxer [13:13] hell yea, in two weeks [13:13] are you paki? [13:13] no [13:14] newbie: this is the problem. u need to learn english prior (or simultaniuos) to learn linux especially slackware. [13:14] same difference .. hindi? [13:14] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-163-6.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] I'm from Asia,i can't disclose furthur [13:14] s/further/ [13:14] init[1] is from western penisular [13:14] slackweird (n=acolyte@unaffiliated/slackwared) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Action: hitest is Canadian.....eh [13:14] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [13:14] no worries init i won't ask you for marriage no matter where you're from [13:14] it's a chat room for god sake [13:15] newbie: you are not a female i guess ? [13:15] oh hell yea [13:15] yep dr flower i will try my best ... promise [13:15] init[1]: hahahaha [13:15] newbie, are you libyan ? [13:15] that gadaffi guy rules [13:15] yes jeev [13:15] i'm here [13:15] but he has a weird face [13:15] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.77.193) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] yeppies smarty ... i'm his bodyguard [13:15] any problems with that? [13:15] jeev: and he's not a gnome guy, more like a kde one -_- [13:16] you have weird face too jeev [13:16] what is wrong with wierd faces :) [13:16] newbie, no problems with him.. i have my own brain -- i dont do what the american media tells me [13:16] nothing i guess [13:16] Camarade_Tux, they all suck [13:16] lol [13:16] windows ? * [13:16] > * [13:16] Action: jeev hides [13:16] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-24-249-118.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:16] whatever dude ... i just answered you question if that helps you to do anything [13:17] i'm a libyan in libyan and my ip address in your logs i believe ^_^ cheers [13:18] Action: init[1] thinks newbie is getting smater [13:18] what a weirdo [13:18] what's wrong with you [13:18] jeev: was referring to "gadaffi", he's "kadaffi" ;-) [13:18] of course i do init [13:18] whatever Camarade_Tux [13:18] crocket_1111 (n=dfas@212.183.134.131) left irc: "Leaving" [13:18] i'm talking here [13:18] Nick change: wertik_ -> wertik__rus [13:18] LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYATARABULUSTRIPOLILIBYAN TELECOM AND TECHNOLOGY [13:18] with the smartest ass on freenode [13:18] the ones who choosen slackware ^^ [13:18] who's being a smart ass you stupid douche [13:18] Action: init[1] :XD [13:18] lol [13:18] they call it LTT [13:18] for short [13:18] Channel flood from newbie -- kicking [13:18] the freaking worest ISP you can ever get [13:18] newbie kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:18] lol [13:18] /o/ [13:18] \o\ [13:18] what a weirdo [13:19] lol [13:19] linkster (n=linkn@d51A497BF.access.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [13:19] \o/ [13:19] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:21] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] aigon (n=adeodatu@92.82.74.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:21] hi. im trying to install 13.0, but when running fdkisk it either doesnt find my hard drive, or, chckdisk says its a write only partition. any ideas? [13:22] are you on some special controller or what [13:22] linkster: its useing your dvd drive [13:22] dmesg | grep hda [13:22] see if it shows up [13:22] linkster: cfdisk /dev/[hdx]/[sdx] [13:22] well, im trying to install it on this box, and curently, it has vista on it. [13:23] ok, i'll brb, if it doesnt works. thanks [13:23] so you're gonna destroy your vista set up [13:23] yup [13:23] :D [13:23] cool [13:23] Action: hitest heads out for a walk...be back in an hour or so. [13:23] hitest, be carefukl!!! 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[13:52] I find that it is part of kdeutils [13:52] so....? [13:53] marge: maybe look in ~/.kde/ [13:54] I removed ~/.kde/share/kwallet [13:55] I'm going to try and restart KDE. We' [13:55] ll see what happens. [13:55] BRB [13:55] marge (n=marge@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:55] kantor (n=bird@79.114.18.189) joined ##slackware. [13:55] hi [13:56] hi kantor [13:57] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [13:59] http://909sickle.com/s/microwave-oven/ <-evil_microwave [13:59] I want to make some transfer rate tests for some hard drives and usb flash drives . . . is there a program for linux that can do that ? (but a better one then hdparm, something that makes read, write tests, from the start of the drive, from the middle, or end . . . ) [13:59] kantor: iozone, bonnie++, filebench [13:59] thanks [13:59] kantor: or you could just shotgun that question to multiple irc channels [13:59] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Action: ananke can't stand that [13:59] I did that already [13:59] yeah. no kidding [13:59] kantor: have you used the search function at http://freshmeat.net/ ? [14:00] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:00] marge (n=marge@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [14:01] in the past . . yes [14:01] why ? [14:01] Still trying to solve the kwallet issue. [14:01] I see a kgpg window/error now as I logged back into kde. [14:01] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [14:02] It says: [14:02] The use of GnuPG Agent is enabled in GnuPG's configuration file (/home/marge/.gnupg/options). [14:02] However, the agent does not seem to be running. This could result in problems with signing/decryption. [14:02] Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent. [14:03] Anyone know how to dissable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings? [14:03] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Or how to fix the agant? [14:03] Phamjod2228 (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) joined ##slackware. [14:04] did you delete anything in ~/.kde/ for kwallet? [14:04] how to know what services are running? [14:04] Phamjod2228: top [14:04] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:04] defines "services" [14:04] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [14:04] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:05] marge you said you removed ~/.kde/share/wallet, i bet that screwed it up [14:05] Phamjod2228: i bet pkgtool will show you what services are enabled/disabled from startup [14:06] Pig_Pen: i mean services that are invoked at boot [14:06] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:06] pkgtool > services [14:06] pkgtool > setup > services [14:07] Pig_Pen: ok, i've just seen that, thx [14:07] and "if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd ]; then grep -v '^#'' /etc/inetd.conf; fi :) [14:07] Pig_Pen: What do you suggest? [14:07] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Any ideas? [14:08] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] if you are feeling really deperate delete all of ~/.kde/* and log back in and start a fresh kde profile [14:08] Can anyone tell me some way to dissable kwallet? [14:08] adeodatus (n=knkjkk@92.84.17.105) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Pig_Pen: Ok I will try that. Thank you. [14:08] marge (n=marge@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:09] marge is your husband's name homer ? [14:09] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:10] Phamjod2228 (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) left irc: "leaving" [14:11] radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable098.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:11] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [14:12] ercula (n=ercula@75-168-246-100.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:19] sigp239: i don't believe that is a package that is part of Slackware. But there is a build script at SlackBuilds.org [14:19] howdy BP{k} [14:19] fire|bird: good afternoon. :) [14:20] CcSsNET_ (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] hello everyone [14:20] http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/rh-supreme-court-brief.pdf [14:20] BP{k}, Yes I found that one but for some reason it is not loading when I try to use it with Slax. Do you know anything about that? [14:21] slax != slackware [14:21] hello mr_bungle [14:21] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:21] fire|bird, Yes I know [14:21] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [14:21] does anyone know what i need to open a CHM file which contain MHT files [14:23] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] slackweird (n=acolyte@unaffiliated/slackwared) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:24] What about pypanel, is that in slackware? [14:24] chm is windows help and mht is powerpoint/html [14:24] i think [14:25] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-249-118.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [14:25] I just need a really simple panel that currently exists as a slackware package. Suggestions please? [14:29] sigp239: tint2 is a fairly nice panel [14:29] Pig_Pen, http://packages.slackware.it/search.php?v=current&t=1&q=tint2 [14:29] Its not there [14:29] Neither is pypanel or fbpanel [14:29] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [14:29] sigp239: have you ever built anything from source? [14:29] So, what is a good simple panel that slackware packages? [14:29] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Sure, but it will build as the binary and I need it in slackware package format [14:29] sayed (n=sayed@129-97-220-126.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: "leaving" [14:29] use make install DESTDIR=/tmp/pkg then cd in to /tmp/pkg and run makepkg /tmp/tint2.tgz [14:29] I need a simple lightweight panel in .tgz format [14:29] edman007: there is a lot of literatura in chm format, but the questioned chm is build from mht, ie there is mht in the chm [14:29] Pig_Pen, Does that need to be run from within a slackware install? [14:29] yes [14:30] sigp239: what is the problem with using slackbuilds? [14:30] BP{k}, the fbpanel I got from slackbuilds, for some reason won't load on my slax live cd [14:30] yup, either use a slackbuild script or learn to roll your own, (thats the slackware way) [14:30] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-126-218-108.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] y0 agentc0re [14:31] D-r_Flower, then its chm and you use the windows help thing to read it (wine might handle it) [14:31] sigp239: right .. so you're running slax? [14:31] slax has kde, it has its own panel, whats wrong with slax's kde panel? [14:31] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:31] kchmviewr cannot view that file [14:31] BP{k}, I'm running Fedora 11, and I'm developing a Slax live cd. [14:31] just run kicker [14:31] fire|bird: y0 [14:31] "view" [14:31] alienBOB: are you there man ? [14:31] BP{k}: hahahaha [14:31] sigp239: annnnnnnnndddddd this is ##slackware [14:32] BP{k}, Okayyyyyyyyyyyyy [14:32] Nick change: amIexpert_ -> alienBOY [14:33] bad [14:33] indeed [14:33] fire|bird: seems like i've been missing out this morning. [14:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [14:34] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:34] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] agentc0re: haha, yeah, maybe. [14:34] agentc0re: How's it going? [14:34] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:35] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [14:36] good. I slept for a real long time, which feels/felt great. [14:36] looks like fbpanel.sourceforge.net has the tgz [14:36] (: [14:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:38] agentc0re: nice. I slept about 8 hours. :P Woke up and it was 66F in here, maybe soon time to get the furnace going. :P [14:38] sigp239: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fbpanel/files/ [14:38] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:38] fire|bird: hehe, i woke up and it was hailing. [14:39] I'm trying to isntall the terminus font. Aside from installing the slackbuild from slackbuilds.org - what else do I need to do to enable the font? [14:39] retsudo: I don't see a tgz there, just a tbz2 [14:39] agentc0re: haha, big hail or like pea size or something. [14:39] sayed: Tell whatever apps you want to use that font. [14:39] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) left ##slackware. [14:39] check the older versions [14:40] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] fire|bird: Well that's the trouble, I did that and the font isn't showing, the program complains that it doesn't exist. Also, xfontsel doesn't feature it either. [14:40] only the newest is tbz2 [14:40] have you logged out and back in, or restarted the pc, or updated the font cache manually? [14:40] No.. [14:40] =] [14:41] retsudo: meh. tgz doesn't mean automagically it's a slackware package though. :) [14:42] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:42] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:43] fire|bird: not sure... it happened twice and i feel back to sleep after it was over. [14:43] fire|bird: it was loud as all hell though. [14:43] haha [14:43] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.186.123) left irc: "leaving" [14:44] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:44] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:44] agentc0re: Well, as long as nothings broke, and you didn't get knocked out by a hail stone, it's all good. :P [14:44] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [14:44] true. [14:45] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [14:46] fire|bird: I did an fc-cache update but the problem persists. [14:46] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:47] i think since it's soo windy lately i am going to pull the feed for my dsl from the box and call up tech support. yesterday i was cutting parts of this tree and for the longest time now some branches have been hanging on the Qwest feed. [14:47] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:47] I think its causing my random up's/downs [14:47] sayed: try restarting and see if that has any affect. Also, have you closed the apps you want to use this font in and opened them after installing the font? [14:48] It's for ~/.Xdefaults -> urxvt - so yeah [14:48] hey fire|bird [14:48] hi Reticenti [14:48] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] mr_bungle (n=as@cm33.sigma51.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: "Leaving" [14:49] fire|bird: I'll try restarting [14:49] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: "leaving" [14:50] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Action: alienBOY need to be more hardcore [14:53] sigp239 (n=sigp239@62.225.51.109) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:54] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [14:54] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [14:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:56] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:56] fire|bird: No dice on the reboot. [14:57] Hmm, I'm not sure then. What's the line you're using in ~/.Xdefaults to set it? [14:57] fire|bird: urxvt*font: -*-terminus-*-*-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* [14:58] sigp239 (n=sigp239@62.225.51.109) joined ##slackware. [14:59] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] Shearer (i=vecchio@ppp-186-80.32-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [14:59] hello [15:00] Hey [15:00] cupcakes [15:00] ... [15:00] hey Toasty toast, so I have a new method [15:00] .... [15:01] for extended lolcode. [15:01] oh i thought you had a new method for bakeing cupcakes [15:01] we can make lolas to instead of interpret, format lolcode into assembly so that we can boot lolcode from grub. [15:01] or lilo [15:01] or any bootload [15:01] loader* [15:01] sigp239 (n=sigp239@62.225.51.109) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:01] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [15:01] so we can evenatully make a lolcode OS? [15:02] I havent found out how to call code from an offset yet. [15:02] yep [15:02] in lilo* [15:02] you think its my fault those two ppl left? [15:02] ith grub you specify kernel offset size_in_blocks I believe [15:02] no. what did you do? [15:03] started talking bout cupcakes [15:03] not everyone enjoys a good cupcake [15:03] the only problem.. is that instead of booting lolcode it may seem more ethical to write normal protected mosde code [15:03] ic [15:03] becaue bootloaders can only be 512 bytes in size in the MBR, no larger and no smaller [15:03] is recommended to install slackware 64 bit? there is lack of precompiled packages or i wrong? [15:03] thats why you usually tell the assembler to fill the rest with 0's [15:04] toast tried 64 and he failed. [15:04] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [15:04] cause he's a noob. [15:04] no [15:04] yes [15:04] becasue i couldn't epsxe to work [15:04] you gave up on like the seccond day [15:04] i need my ps1 games damn you [15:04] lol [15:04] compile it [15:04] on the second day and both days were spent trying to get epsxe working [15:05] you can't [15:05] you cna't get the source [15:05] I have it [15:05] and pcsx didn't wanna compile nomatter waht i did to it [15:05] on my old pentium 3 computer [15:05] Kidding, but I thought I did at one time. [15:05] old ones [15:05] i am pretty sure epsxe is is closed source [15:05] pcsx is opensource [15:06] but liek i said i couldn't get it to compile [15:06] mohaa (n=moha@188.115.77.193) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:06] well i jsut beat ff7 [15:06] cause you never look at --help [15:06] now i n3ed lunch then need to do some more homework [15:06] i did [15:06] i evgen read the readme [15:07] and I havent showed you nor have you learned to track compile problems [15:09] most compile problems are because you are missing things. [15:09] trust me i pretty wure i wasn't [15:09] i looked online for hours [15:09] well you coulda had me help you [15:09] no one has had much succes with getting epsxe or pcsx to run on 64bit linux [15:09] compiling errors with the code: very unlikely. [15:09] thats a general rule [15:09] sometiems you have to dump the compile and really look hard, I had to with qcad [15:09] Channel flood from fatalnix -- kicking [15:09] and found out I had the wrong version of QT [15:09] well why don't you go and get a 64bit machine pout slack64 on it and get themrunning then when you're done put it online so others can do so [15:09] I dont have one [15:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:09] fatalnix kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:10] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:10] wb fredo [15:11] hi =) [15:12] tygra (n=tygra@174.32.35.181) joined ##slackware. [15:12] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:12] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-124.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] so.. i got slackware 13, finally .. [15:14] <[Nobody]> hey everyone [15:14] hi [Nobody] [15:14] uva (i=bno@220-136-226-71.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] keres_ (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] winger (n=bullitt@pool-173-70-49-189.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.210) joined ##slackware. [15:18] bye [15:18] Shearer (i=vecchio@ppp-186-80.32-151.iol.it) left ##slackware. [15:19] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:19] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:19] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] lol [15:20] hmm? [15:20] nothing [15:20] k [15:20] just the fact I got kicked [15:20] mohaa (n=moha@188.115.77.193) joined ##slackware. [15:20] ooh [15:21] I didnt know it until just now, I said what I said and then changed channels to listen to someone else lol. [15:22] i guess i missed it, fatalnix [15:22] say it again :P [15:22] 1409 k:fatalnix/##slackware/slackboy/(flood) [15:22] winger (n=bullitt@pool-173-70-49-189.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:22] mohaa (n=moha@188.115.77.193) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:23] oh, was that the kick? [15:24] yeah [15:25] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:25] keres__ (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:25] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.87.61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:26] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.210) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:27] <[Nobody]> fuckkkk [15:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:27] <[Nobody]> the new kernel i compiled failed with my gpu [15:27] ruh roh , i guess u went back to previous ? [15:28] blackula (i=1000@97.81.73.186) joined ##slackware. [15:28] <[Nobody]> nope [15:28] i tried to compile a kernal, once, LOL , it didnt work out [15:28] <[Nobody]> i tried over 7 times [15:28] <[Nobody]> and it finally worked [15:28] oic [15:28] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.77.193) joined ##slackware. [15:28] <[Nobody]> now i guess i forgot to include proper drivers for my gpu [15:28] ah [15:28] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-230.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:28] <[Nobody]> lilo won't let me use 1280x1024 now [15:28] <[Nobody]> :( [15:29] Kernels are easy to work with, but devastating to start for some people [15:29] corvo_ (n=corvo@189.115.31.231) joined ##slackware. [15:29] i decided that it wasnt worth the time or bother , no one has yet convinced me that it is.. so ... [15:30] yeah theres an ncurses (i think) interface, even.. but ,,, [15:30] just make bzImage modules modules_install I believe, [15:30] and then copy over the image [15:30] menuconfig? [15:30] theres also a gui config [15:30] make gconfig [15:30] But I find menuconfig easier to use [15:31] and less confusing [15:31] theres also xconfig I believe [15:31] and then plain old config [15:31] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] i think i tried both, lol [15:31] xconfig is fairly straight forward. [15:31] the first two [15:31] ic. [15:31] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:33] jus not worth it, ya know "if it aint broke.. " and all that [15:33] keres__ (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:33] plus im lazy, lol [15:34] speaking of which , i think i'll never understand why they call it "slackware" lol [15:34] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:37] define: slack [15:37] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:37] there are a few definitions [15:38] r0dr1g0 (i=fdssdafd@189.25.65.221) joined ##slackware. [15:38] one is.. like .. i.e. leaving slack in a rope ... [15:38] keres_ (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:38] you need to read up on wikipedia's slackware entry, [15:38] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] or uncyclopedias too [15:38] Pig_Pen, define "joke" :P [15:38] after wikipedias [15:39] no username password mode for alzheimer patients. [15:39] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:39] lol [15:39] alzheimers patients tend to repeat themselves, LOL [15:39] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] The "slack" in Slackware is a reference to the term "slack" as used by the Church of the SubGenius.[5] [15:40] LOL [15:40] was that on uncyclopedia? [15:40] i didnt know there was a CHURCH [15:40] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [15:40] Critics consider the distribution time-consuming and difficult to learn, whereas advocates consider it flexible and transparent and like the experience gained from the learning process. [15:40] ok, ok, i wiki , sheez [15:40] tygra: Yes, there is. Google about it and read. [15:41] and welcome to ~/.irssi/saved_colors [15:41] lol [15:41] well Pig_Pen , ive been using it since.. er 10-point-something, i must not hate it TOO bad [15:42] send money [15:42] but if you didn't know that there was a church, you must not have learned much about it either. [15:42] all your potatoes are belong to me [15:42] chopp: \o/, destination_color, black. :D [15:42] jeev: You can't haz my potatos, they shall become curly fries. [15:43] who invented the television, fire|bird ? [15:43] slackware features [15:43] Integrated calendar to manage user's complicated medication schedule. [15:44] fire|bird: yeah http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/ [15:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [15:44] oops...middle click fail. :P [15:44] indeed [15:44] fire|bird invented the TV [15:45] lol [15:45] he's that old [15:45] LOL [15:45] fire|bird: I meant wu-nickcolor.pl ftw. :) [15:45] chopp: :) [15:45] my point was: we dont really have to know all about technology to USE it [15:46] a chicken is just an egg's way of making more eggs [15:46] no, but if you've read about slackware at all, there had to been, at some point, a church of the subgenius reference. [15:47] Finally, Slackware is also popular among users of the GNOME desktop, due to praise of Slackware's exceptional GNOME desktop [15:47] slackware doesn't have gnome. [15:48] mamababs (n=bggr@host81-141-52-151.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] that's why it's to special [15:48] hey pprkut [15:48] hey fire|bird [15:48] how goes? [15:48] great, thanks. you? [15:48] good too [15:48] i didnt remeber the "church" part, but the subgenius part and the cartoon guy, i guess that i was just hoping "church" and the very idea was hooey [15:48] lol fatalnix , maybe it was written a long time ago ? [15:48] I don't think GNOME lovers use slackware much [15:49] they use Ubuntu! [15:49] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-126-218-108.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:49] no [15:49] its a jokr [15:49] joke* [15:49] oooh [15:49] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:50] fatalnix is a Ubuntuer [15:50] fatalnix: that was a joke? don't quit your day job. [15:50] heh heh [15:50] oh wait, you were the one having issues with filling out an application. :P [15:50] that is his day job [15:50] Its popularity among new users due to Slackware's long-standing reputation (rivaled only by Gentoo) as being an easy-to-use operating system for the beginner. [15:50] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Slackware [15:51] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-152-84.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] I've read this so many times and I still laugh [15:51] Slackware isn't hard to insta;; [15:51] ll* [15:51] alienBOY_ (n=chatzill@124.43.54.14) joined ##slackware. [15:51] fatalnix :is gentoo supposed to be more difficult, or its super easy ? i dunno [15:51] tygra, harder (time consuming) [15:52] ah [15:52] gento compiles everything from source. [15:52] so [15:52] it can take you a week to install it [15:52] depends on how slow your PC is [15:52] I think 2 or three days or so isnt it average? [15:53] and how much RAM [15:53] 2 days about [15:53] a friend suggested slackware to me, when i said i wanted to use linux, everyone else tried to talk me out of it.. you know "not for your first linux os" and all that... glad i didnt listen [15:53] dont need ram! just need my 64k TRS-80, ill hook up the serial io to it and use that for extended ram. [15:53] :P [15:53] LMAO @ TRS 80 i had one a those [15:53] tygra actually.. [15:54] yes my trs 80 is all hooked up right now [15:54] anyways [15:54] fatalnix, i didnt know that about gentoo.. that sounds.. interesting .. LOL [15:54] it depends what kind of person you are [15:54] if you start with slackware and you dont give up, good. [15:54] go install gentoo, fatalnix [15:54] I "started" started with slackware [15:54] well USING slackware has been (mostly) easy, for me [15:55] ubuntu's policy is, "Would you like me to wipe too?" [15:55] fatalnix love the Ubuntu [15:55] loves* [15:55] i didnt understand what they were talking about , having only before installed RedHat, looked at it and said " its like a nightmare version of windows" and removed it [15:55] ubuntu is retarded [15:55] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.28) joined ##slackware. [15:55] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [15:56] I used fedora for a week and switched to slackware [15:56] I've never used RH/FC [15:56] first time I ran linux. ever since slackwares been my best buddy, even in times of change. [15:56] ubuntu is apparently very popular .. [15:56] dunno why [15:56] so isnt windows? [15:56] does that mean its good? [15:56] Ubuntu is the Windows of the linux world [15:56] yeah, i wasnt saying that as a positive thing,, [15:57] ok tygra.. heres the thing. in simplicity.. [15:57] no, of course not [15:58] superGear, so, its doing a bunch a chit, and the user doesnt know about it ... ? [15:58] fatalnix is an OS X user [15:58] if you want to LEARN Linux, and have a good start use slackware, sure. [15:58] superGear you are so full of shit today what happened to you over the past 64 hours? [15:58] XD [15:58] LOLLLL [15:58] superGear, u are picking on fatalnix a lot, lol [15:58] anyways, Tygra, welcome aboard. [15:58] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:59] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] .. what have i gotten myself into ? [15:59] Of those active here at the moment, discounting myself, superGear is the most sane/intelligent one. :P [15:59] [N0BODY] (i=54464f96@gateway/web/freenode/x-mfsybakzvqhepswz) joined ##slackware. [15:59] thx, fatalnix .. i think ,,, [15:59] <[N0BODY]> Warning: Video adapter does not support VESA BIOS extensions needed for display of 256 colors. Boot loader will fall back to TEXT only operation. [15:59] <[N0BODY]> lilo has failed. [16:00] <[Nobody]> why haz my lilo failed like that? ^ [16:00] setting to 773 and run lilo [16:00] i was beginning to wonder if you were all some kinda purist/fanatics LOL [16:00] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:00] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] VGA mode ... [16:00] <[Nobody]> it is 773 [16:00] <[Nobody]> it worked in the old kernel [16:00] <[Nobody]> now it fials [16:00] <[Nobody]> :( [16:00] then, again, you've borked your kernel config. [16:00] <[N0BODY]> I upgrade my kernel and lilo dies on me. [16:00] aww poor LILO , [N0BODY] .. and i dunno , ive had some issues b4 with that.. but dont remember how i fixed [16:01] <[N0BODY]> i checked [16:01] <[N0BODY]> i do have the correct grpahics driver for it [16:01] i'm more of a cross-my-fingers-and-hope kinda person, lol [16:01] <[N0BODY]> but its compiled as a module instead of built in :( [16:01] <[N0BODY]> and it wont let me build it in [16:01] damn [16:01] see.. why i dont bother ? :P [16:01] <[N0BODY]> i modprobed it and lilo still wont let me use it [16:02] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [16:02] <[N0BODY]> maybe i should go back to grub. [16:02] <[N0BODY]> yeah, i'll go back to grub [16:02] It's not lilo's fault that you can't build a kernel. [16:02] lol [16:03] geez, take it easy , lol [16:03] hmm [16:03] <[N0BODY]> fire|bird: i checked everything [16:03] <[N0BODY]> i have all the correct drivers [16:03] <[N0BODY]> for my gpu [16:03] did you check framebuffers? [16:03] <[N0BODY]> yep [16:04] It worked with the old kernel, right? [16:04] <[N0BODY]> i've enabled direct rendering for 3DFX voodoo [16:04] <[N0BODY]> (my graphics card) [16:04] grub is very bad [16:04] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:04] you basicly taint your computer when you use it [16:04] <[N0BODY]> argh [16:04] <[N0BODY]> how do i even install it/ [16:05] Grub isn't bad [16:05] [Nobody]: If all worked fine with the old kernel, and now it won't boot, the only thing that's changed is the kernel that YOU built, i.e. it's not lilo, it's your crappy kernel. [16:05] corvo_ (n=corvo@189.115.31.231) left irc: "Leaving" [16:05] bout the only thing its good for is testing homebrew kernels lol [16:05] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-179-38.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:05] yeah cept it requires every patch that exists in the world to work. [16:05] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:06] fire|bird, if you dont have anything nice to say.. come sit by me , lol [16:06] OHGODNO [16:06] corvo_ (n=corvo@189.115.31.231) joined ##slackware. [16:06] I have something nice to say..... [16:06] fire|bird met a nice tygra [16:06] is fire|bird 12, or something ? [16:07] fire|bird is 59 [16:07] ok thats odd enough to be true, i guess [16:07] ... [16:07] tygra: what in the fsck even gave you that impression? [16:07] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] <[N0BODY]> rebooting. [16:07] [N0BODY] (i=54464f96@gateway/web/freenode/x-mfsybakzvqhepswz) left irc: "Page closed" [16:07] [Nobody]: WHy in the hell do you even need to build your own kernel? [16:08] .. bah! [16:08] haha [16:08] agentc0re, he (?) seems to get all overexcited and .. isnt very tactful ... [16:08] why not? [16:08] alienBOY (n=chatzill@124.43.49.165) left irc: Connection timed out [16:08] <[Nobody]> i checked [16:08] only way to learn is to fail [16:08] <[Nobody]> apparently the new kernel supports direct rendering [16:08] <[Nobody]> for my 2000 card [16:08] papajack (n=papajack@unaffiliated/papajack) joined ##slackware. [16:08] hi [16:08] yeah "why not?" is always a good answer, i have a response toi that, in my case .. "not worth it" [16:08] 2000 card? [16:09] wtf is a 2000 card [16:09] <[Nobody]> year 2000 card [16:09] <[Nobody]> well 2001 card* [16:09] oh [16:09] superGear: he pieced together some old POS pc's to make a super POS computer. [16:09] <[Nobody]> POS? [16:09] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Piece of Sh*t [16:10] <[Nobody]> nah [16:10] <[Nobody]> some parts of it [16:10] <[Nobody]> r good [16:10] <[Nobody]> liek teh case [16:10] "he pieced together some old POS pc's to make a super POS computer" <-- sounds like my last computer [16:10] <[Nobody]> fucking expensive :( [16:10] So expensive case with crappy insides [16:10] superGear: http://noobfarm.org/?id=1706 [16:10] [Nobody]: Every kernel since 2001 should have supported direct rendering for that card. [16:11] you gotta start somewhere, superGear [16:11] is [Nobody] cg999 ? [16:11] <[Nobody]> yeah [16:11] oh god [16:11] haha [16:11] bleh [16:11] <[Nobody]> arghhh [16:11] agentc0re: Wow, he's been nagging us here for THAT long already. :P [16:11] lmao! [16:11] <[Nobody]> new kernel = fail [16:11] Action: agentc0re watches ass fall off [16:12] [Nobody]: No, you building a kernel = fail [16:12] <[Nobody]> oh come on [16:12] <[Nobody]> i go through a full make config [16:12] <[Nobody]> to build that kernel [16:12] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:12] In all this time of complaining here, you could have read a howto and actually had a working kernel. [16:12] i built a new kernel yesterday [16:12] [Nobody]: Seriously though man, why are you trying to do this? [16:12] works fine [16:12] hmm fire|bird has a point, there [16:12] [Nobody] is for the fail [16:12] <[Nobody]> i DID read about 5 how tos [16:13] <[Nobody]> they all said the same [16:13] <[Nobody]> so i read the one i found for 2.6.30 [16:13] fire|bird, build a kernel for him [16:13] then search forums, or something , i dunno [16:13] <[Nobody]> i alrady built one [16:13] <[Nobody]> lol [16:13] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:13] tygra: The reason I'm not easy and extremely helpful to him is he's been in here for several days now, had several people help him, and he's gotten nowhere. [16:13] [Nobody]: Seriously though man, why are you trying to do this? [16:13] <[Nobody]> crap, i forgot [16:13] fire|bird, not days [16:13] fire|bird, WEEKS [16:14] <[Nobody]> 2 weeks actually [16:14] superGear: yeah, my bad, WEEKS. :P [16:14] so, incompetency annoys you, fire|bird ? :P [16:14] yeah, 2 weeks, and you've gotten NOWHERE. [16:14] 2 weeks of failing [16:14] <[Nobody]> days about the kernel tho [16:14] <[Nobody]> o rly fire|bird? [16:14] <[Nobody]> i got the kernel to boot [16:14] <[Nobody]> and in X [16:14] fire|bird: \o/ [16:15] took him 2 weeks to get it to boot [16:15] Action: tygra makes note "dont ask fire|bird for help" :P [16:15] [Nobody]: Well offense man, maybe you should just stick with the hugesmp kernel, okay? If you're trying to learn something, be objective about it. if you need help, you should be asking specific question instead of ranting here about.. "IT is a EPIC fail again.." [16:15] [Nobody]: In two weeks, you should be ALOT farther then that. [16:15] <[Nobody]> 2 weeks? [16:15] <[Nobody]> 3 days [16:15] <[Nobody]> i only started compiling it 3 days ago [16:15] in 2 hours you should be further than that. [16:15] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] agentc0re: ++ [16:15] 1 hour [16:15] agentc0re, seriously, admit defeat, lol [16:15] <[Nobody]> yeah but its only a P4 superGear [16:15] 3 fukking DAYS [16:16] how much RAM [16:16] <[Nobody]> 768 [16:16] ah ok [16:16] i didnt know, i thought you just did that TODAY [16:16] tygra is a mean man [16:16] [Nobody]: look man, not trying to rag on you. But if you want to continue this i think you should try writing some things down that you are changing. write down your hardware, find out why you would make a driver a module or built in.. if you need and/or want to use an initrd afterwards. [16:16] someone using slim with multiple enviroments? [16:17] "only a P4" ? you said that like "only a P2" LOL thats not ANCIENT [16:19] superGear, i'm sorry, but three days ... ? [16:19] <[Nobody]> p4 is 2001 [16:19] be nice Mr tygra [16:19] <[Nobody]> tygra a p4 is 1999 [16:19] [Nobody]: then, when you build it and it works you can go back on your notes. if you run into trouble, boot a working kernel and look at the logs and if you aren't sure about something, ask it specifically in here. [16:19] *i'm* not even that foolhardy [16:19] p4 is 2001-2005? [16:19] not all of them .. couldnt be [16:19] came out late 2000 [16:19] <[Nobody]> p4's r still in cheap laptops [16:19] well if it's a p4 prescott, it's a pos. [16:19] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:19] <[Nobody]> i hate P4's [16:19] i'm a mean .. man ? ok (prolly safer that way) [16:19] tygra: there are many of us around here with *exactly* the same attitude. You can only try to help someone for so long. I also don't see your "been running slack since 10.? ass" steping up to help. [16:19] chopp++ [16:19] P4s Produced From 2000 to 2008 [16:19] chopp: ++++ [16:19] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors [16:19] chopp, i said earlier about my experience attempting to compile a kernel ... [16:19] chopp: who else was in here the other day ranting about that... OH ya Xgates or something, right? [16:19] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] agentc0re: yeah [16:20] yup [16:20] i would be no help .,. i asked why [Nobody] should compile one, in the first place [16:20] <[Nobody]> i kinda forgot now [16:20] yeah tygra you should have helped him [16:20] Mean man [16:20] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [16:21] .. you guys lost me , but thats not difficult to do [16:21] we know. :) [16:21] bo0 [16:21] well, superGear , i TRIED .. i mean.. i put in my two cents [16:22] ahhh, what the hell was this about? http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1723 [16:22] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [16:22] oo! i have a few cents [16:22] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [16:22] redtricycle (n=redtricy@66-240-27-3.isp.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] lol fire|bird kiss my *** :P [16:22] tygra: now who's 12yrs old? [16:22] i'm 2.half [16:23] i'm-a progeny [16:23] geez, you guys are so serious [16:23] i'm not [16:23] they have no funi-bonz [16:23] Quiznos is so good to eat [16:23] w.e. [16:23] tell it to the bit [16:23] . [16:23] <[Nobody]> spook, what code? [16:23] <[Nobody]> lol [16:23] Quiznos, lets put our cents together and make a nickel ! lol [16:23] k [16:23] post a prob? [16:24] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:24] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@95.69.31.239) left irc: "Leaving" [16:24] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] so, apparently i can't chat anywhere without annoying SOMEONE [16:27] do i need to tack on a "jk" on the end ? [16:27] can a hard drive be physically damaged internally and not show any signs of failure to smartctl? [16:28] smart is dumb [16:28] seriously, smart isnt that great [16:28] mrselfpwn: It *could* happen, yeah. Is it making any weird noises or acting weird? [16:28] fire|bird: weird noises [16:28] yike [16:28] mrselfpwn: eeek, I'd back everything up and not trust the drive. [16:28] like it keeps making a clank every few minutes [16:28] i second , that's probably a death rattle :| [16:28] er seconds [16:29] ic. [16:29] lol [16:29] mrselfpwn: yeah, I'd back it all up and not wait for it to self destruct. [16:29] like it's comming up but doesn't heh [16:29] I never rely on SMART [16:29] I rely on if it works. [16:29] <[Nobody]> maybe thats why this £700 laptop doesnt have it? [16:29] thats a hardware issue, so i think i can comment w/o knowing the full history of linux or anything.. :P jk jk [16:29] if it gets detected fast enough, and doesnt bother me, its a good disk. [16:30] fire|bird: yeah good idea. i need a bigger drive anyway. this one is only 80gig [16:30] mrselfpwn: If it's rattling, it's just a matter of time before the platters could touch and, well, you know what'll happen. :) [16:30] tygra: stfugtfokthxbai [16:30] screeeeech! rrrrrrrrrr [16:30] does smoke come out, fire|bird ? [16:30] depends [16:30] no [16:30] tygra: not everyone is always serious. that's just Quiznos. [16:30] i see that chopp is a new fan of mine [16:30] hard disks catch on fire when the circuit board is faulty usually [16:31] like my old sata disk, but its sata, its bound to happen [16:31] Action: fire|bird makes a song "When platters collide" [16:32] lol [16:32] lol [16:32] "This is what's it's like when platters collide.. are you ready to go cause i'm ready to go, what cha gonna do save me save me! [16:32] hahaha [16:32] lol [16:33] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [16:33] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [16:33] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Connection timed out [16:33] mrselfpwn: Well, now you have a good reason to get a new drive. :) [16:33] yes indeed [16:34] i hate to think it's because how often i drop my netbook. [16:34] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:34] It probably is though. :P [16:34] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] 0_0 [16:34] sadly yes. [16:34] mrselfpwn: One more drop and you'll shatter your platters. :P [16:34] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:35] heheh [16:35] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:35] for some reason i thought of plate spinning [16:35] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:36] that's what platters in a hard drive do, they spin. [16:36] yes, i know [16:36] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [16:36] on to sticks, one in each of fire|birds hands while he smiles and laughs wickedly? [16:36] but the term "shatter your platters" was what made me think about it [16:36] two* [16:36] hahaha [16:37] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [16:37] chipster, what do you know about zildjian [16:38] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:38] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:38] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [16:38] Mrs (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:38] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:38] jeev: I see a lot of people use them. [16:38] crazy [16:38] it's armenian stuffs [16:39] donoban (i=1000@77.211.127.7) joined ##slackware. [16:39] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:39] never knew that. [16:40] crazy [16:41] would a "made in Malaysia" sticker make you feel better ? [16:41] JK [16:41] sorry, forgot to add that [16:42] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:42] jeev: The creator was an alchemist according to their site from Constantinople! [16:43] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.177.117) joined ##slackware. [16:43] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:43] hi there [16:43] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:44] hi [16:44] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:44] archimandritass (n=locus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:46] ag3ntugly (n=ag3ntugl@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) joined ##slackware. [16:46] ag3ntugly (n=ag3ntugl@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left ##slackware. [16:46] Oldest family business in America. [16:46] Hi good night (22:50) It's bad learn C for continue C++?? [16:47] samurai_ (n=samurai@89.29.158.244) joined ##slackware. [16:47] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:47] could you rephrase the question ? [16:47] archimandritass, no I guess... [16:48] lol [16:48] has anyone here had success with firewire on 13.0? [16:48] I start learning ANSI C and in the middle of the book I read this [16:48] i havent tried it, metriccwrench , i have no firewire devices [16:48] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [16:48] hi, after a day of working correctly,after the secon day of intallation when i do dhclient i get network is down [16:49] and i cant set up my eth0 now [16:49] archimandritass: you meant to say or instead of for? [16:49] i dont know what happened [16:49] archiebenedict, C/C++ are a little different... [16:49] mrselfpwn, could YOU rephrase the question ? :P [16:49] samurai_: have you tried dhcpcd? [16:49] yes but I don't know that is catastrofic [16:50] I admit that C++ is a little more used right now than C, but I repeat, they're different, they've different syntax and other things obviously ;) [16:50] I have a combo usb/ieee1394 external drive, firewire is recognized but then bombs out [16:50] uh [16:50] It did the same thing on 12.2; I was hoping it would work on 13 [16:50] C++ is just C with oop. [16:51] mrselfpwn, yes i did [16:51] they were written by the same people to overcome the many challenges of C [16:51] fatalnix, as far as I know C++ has more graphic libraries... ain't it so? [16:51] mrselfpwn, the same [16:51] samurai_: what does /sbin/ifconfig eth0 show you? [16:51] libraries have -nothing- to go with the language [16:51] that's like saying: [16:51] receive packet ailed on wlan0 network is don [16:52] metriccwrench: maybe it needs to be added in the kernel? i don't know if that is in there by default as it may fall under some obscure device section. Not saying it's not, just a possibility. [16:52] as far as I know slackware's kernel is completely different from suse's because slackware comes with more desktop enviroments [16:52] metriccwrench, error ftching interface information, device not found [16:52] thats just like saying that [16:52] fatalnix, yes you're right... [16:52] samurai_: sounds like you may be missing a module for your ethernet device [16:52] a moment I will translate the phrase [16:53] archimandritass, all we are waiting you :P [16:53] metriccwrench, it was working correctlyi restarted the router and thi mess started [16:53] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:53] can I fix it i I compile my kernel? [16:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtV9Qem7zPw this gives a new meaning to toejams :D [16:54] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-151.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:54] Pig_Pen: haha yes, he's pretty good. [16:55] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-37-173.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:55] samurai_: you may not need to recompile, especially if it was working before. [16:56] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:56] Dito (i=4f00f0b5@gateway/web/freenode/x-wfennfaevmmypknl) joined ##slackware. [16:56] hi [16:56] book : "Develop in C Metodology, algoritms and data structure" Mc Graw Hill, Luis Joyanes Aguilar, Ignacio Zahonero Martinez [16:56] samurai_: use lspci to get the info about the device in question, then make sure the correct module is loaded [16:57] restarting your router shouldn't affect the device on your computer (I'm assuming your computer and your router are two different things) [16:59] yes [16:59] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:59] i use slackware64 with wicd 1.6.2, have notice that if ESSID contain "-" character (ex. "MY-NET") wicd show it like . Any idea? Thanks [17:00] crazy mrselfpwn, i didnt know that.. oldest fam business [17:00] alexander_ (n=root@189.115.31.231) joined ##slackware. [17:00] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:00] when i do lspci i just ee the wlan0 but not the eth0 metriccwrench [17:00] i dont know what happened with eth0 [17:00] mrselfpwn, does that mean i can tell white people in america to get the fuck out of my country??!?!?! [17:01] jeev: well no, because i'm white. [17:01] woo hoo, YEAH! wait.. i'm white (mostly) [17:01] :> [17:01] haha [17:01] lol [17:01] jeev: and native American [17:01] sexy [17:01] NOT! [17:01] I'm part native american [17:01] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [17:01] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [17:01] bout 1/8 at least. [17:01] jeev: so, I think my family was here first actually. [17:01] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] no, i was here before them [17:02] greetings [17:02] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:02] samurai_: when you do lspci you should see something that says "Ethernet controller" [17:02] if you don't even see it there at all, then your computer doesn't either [17:02] which could be a hardware issue [17:03] ill try with windows [17:03] alexander_ (n=root@189.115.31.231) left irc: Client Quit [17:03] that'll work [17:03] to tell you if it's there [17:03] me too, fatalnix [17:03] Can I paste a large pharse?? [17:04] http://pastebin.com/d2c7e6d6f [17:05] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:05] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:06] mamababs (n=bggr@host81-141-52-151.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:06] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:06] metriccwrench, they work on windo [17:06] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:06] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:07] archimandritass: what are you trying to say? are you translating the book or something? [17:09] Yes I traslate the book [17:09] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:09] spectre (n=kyle@pool-173-54-180-31.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [17:09] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [17:09] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:09] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [17:09] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-69-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:09] archimandritass: are you spanish? [17:09] yes [17:09] spanish from Spain [17:10] metriccwrench, i have the same problem with the wif card on windows,i get an ip 169.254.x.x instead getting from dhcp [17:10] Dito: upgrade to 1.6.2.2 [17:11] mesa_booger2 (n=mesa_boo@82-41-50-19.cable.ubr07.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[17:15] come back soon :) [17:15] metrofox: http://pastebin.com/d2c7e6d6f [17:15] .. i dunno when :) bye fatalnix [17:15] tygra (n=tygra@174.32.35.181) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:16] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FEDDB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:16] archimandritass, just read... [17:16] nothing changes for me... [17:18] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [17:18] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.150.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:18] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:19] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:20] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.28) left irc: "Leaving." [17:21] The-Croupier, now i rebootd to linux and i seeet0 [17:21] metrofox: "Not only is it unnecessary learn first C, also it is a bad idea" I only learn C at the moment but why this? [17:21] samurai_: if the card is there and working but ust not getting an IP address, then the router or (or whatever is giving out dhcp) is the problem [17:21] but when i do dhclient wlan0 it says receive packet faile on wlan0 , netork is don [17:21] samurai_: do /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up [17:22] then dhcpcd -t 0 -d eth0 [17:22] see what happens [17:22] metriccwrench, but im in another computer getting ip from the same router [17:22] hmmm [17:22] archimandritass, I'm still learning C and I don't feel necessity to move to C++ and if I will there won't be any issue... [17:22] dhcpd already runing on pid 3171 [17:23] archiebenedict, learn whatever you want... You won't get confused... [17:24] now i did on wlan0 and is trying to get an ip [17:24] but it doesnt [17:24] samurai_: dhcpcd, not dhcpd [17:24] archimandritass,, learn whatever you want... You won't get confused... [17:24] yes,sorry dhcpcd is what i did [17:24] kantor (n=bird@79.114.52.160) joined ##slackware. [17:24] vhann_ (n=vhann@142-217-83-92.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:25] hi [17:25] try killing it, then see what happens when you do dhcpcd -t 0 -d [interface] [17:25] and the gateway is always deleted automatically metriccwrench [17:25] i need to add it everytime [17:25] Anyone knows if it is possible to 'dd' a cd/dvd and then 'dd' this file on an identical medium (kind of a byte-for-byte copy in short)? [17:26] samurai_: did you check if you entered the correct password in the first place... (make sure you do again) [17:26] its 169.254..0 instead 192.168.2. [17:26] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [17:26] i have not password on my router [17:26] sir_flipp (n=sir_flip@64.58.0.254) joined ##slackware. [17:26] i lke to share wifi [17:26] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:26] samurai_, I've got this hobby too(LOL) [17:26] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:27] jaja [17:27] is there a bad sector scanning, hard drive surface scanning and error reporting software for linux ? (but not like fsck . . .) [17:28] kantor: What to you want to do exactly? [17:28] s/to/do/c [17:28] samurai_: for the gateway changing, have a look at /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf: DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[4]="yes" [17:28] kantor, why not fsck? [17:29] samurai_: best of luck, I gotta run [17:29] thank u chopp [17:30] thnx metriccwrench [17:30] samurai_: I mean DHCP_KEEPGW[4] [17:30] kantor, badblocks(by root) or smartmontools(you've to install it by third party repository or building package by yourself) [17:31] so i comment again te keepresolv chopp [17:31] ? [17:31] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-152-84.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:31] well thats for your dns. Depends on your setup. [17:31] vhann_, I want to scan the drive for bad sectors but not with fsck, because fsck is partition dependent . . . you can't scan sda, sdb . . .sdx with fsck you need to have partitions . . . [17:31] metrofox, thanks [17:32] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [17:32] kantor: Well, just use badblocks (as said previously by metrofox ) [17:32] I think I broke my wifi when I updated my kernel :) [17:32] chopp, network continues being down [17:33] lol [17:34] whenever my disk gets a lot of bad blocks on it i just take the platters out and run an angle grinder over em [17:34] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] lol [17:35] agentofkaos (n=_sith@cpe-075-189-140-248.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "yeah ok wtfever :/" [17:35] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] greetings and salutations [17:35] Pig_Pen, that's a good solution ;) [17:35] hi andarius [17:35] Pig_Pen: Ah I see you use this NEW hard drive: http://selectroclash.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/the_first_harddisk.jpg [17:36] salutations metrofox [17:36] vhann_, did they cut ham with that blade? [17:38] metrofox: No idea, maybe [17:38] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:38] speaking of ham... [17:38] there are some ham steaks in the fridge and I should cook them [17:38] samurai_: alienBOB has an excellent readme on setting up your network: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [17:38] fatalnix, are you asking us help? [17:38] You know fatalnix , that's what I call relevant information [17:38] :p [17:38] nope. [17:39] :P [17:39] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:39] why would I ask help? [17:39] at least right now.. I am completely content, working on my perl code [17:39] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] guys... I gotta go to school tomorrow(damn... -.-"), I should go to bed now... Good evening/morning/night/afternoon ;) See ya... [17:41] guys, a stupid question...how do i change the around the windows appearance in xfce..? is it styles,themes...what... [17:41] thanks metrofox good night [17:41] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [17:41] good night archimandritass ;) [17:41] G' Night metrofox [17:42] The-Croupier: settings Windows Manager [17:42] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.177.117) left irc: "Segmentation Fault" [17:42] The-Croupier: That one? [17:43] kantor (n=bird@79.114.52.160) left irc: "Leaving" [17:43] kamaji (n=kamaji@94-169-106-21.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:45] gem_cat (n=GEM@207.119.1.29) joined ##slackware. [17:46] mrselfpwn: yep looks like that one... i seem to not be able to change some stuff though...looking through it.. [17:46] and i think i was using kde themes before... [17:46] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:46] gem_cat (n=GEM@207.119.1.29) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [17:46] i seem to not be able to get the menus to change theme..here..:( looking around though.. [17:47] The-Croupier: there are themes on the net @ xfce-look.org and it's pretty easy to copy one and edit it to your liking. [17:47] mrselfpwn: yep..thats what im looking... [17:47] they go to /usr/share/themes/ right? [17:47] They are in /usr/share/themes//xfce4 [17:47] ;) [17:47] They are in /usr/share/themes//gtk for editing gtk stuff. :) [17:48] Action: alienBOY_ founds another site for sql injecting [17:48] mrselfpwn: edit huh... [17:48] alienBOY_: you care to share? [17:48] mrselfpwn: thank you [17:48] kamaji (n=kamaji@94-169-106-21.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [17:48] The-Croupier: No prob. I have a question for you now. [17:49] Is there a way to start X in screen so I can come back to it later via ssh on a different machine? Like maybe be able to access VirtualBox on a different machine. [17:49] You can use VNC [17:49] reminds me I need to take a deeper look at xephyr :) [17:49] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [17:50] how about teamviewer? have you ever seen that...seems quiet alright [17:50] hmm, nope haven't tried it. i'll check it out thanks. [17:52] Camarade_Tux: \o/ [17:52] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:52] I'm wondering if xephyr could do that... [17:52] failed|artist! \o/ [17:52] Yes xephyr does look interesting. [17:52] Camarade_Tux: not anymore ! I'm not an artist till i lear php and mysql \o/ [17:52] learn* [17:53] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] deco: poor you ='( [17:56] how about the icons, i suppose they do not go in the themes folder... [17:56] is there a special plase to untar them? [17:59] got it ;) [17:59] deco deco [17:59] comrad [18:00] yo jee [18:00] parastroika; mofo [18:01] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] CcSsNET_ (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:02] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] yeah, yamofo :) [18:02] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.150.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.94.254) joined ##slackware. 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[18:25] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:26] is there a way to start screen with say three windows each with different commands ? [18:27] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.37.5) joined ##slackware. [18:29] sQuEE (n=narya@host49.201-252-58.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Biber (n=Biber@79.101.156.59) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:33] Action: The-Croupier is off..time to work..;) see you guys soon, have a good one.;) [18:33] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [18:33] see ya [18:34] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-151-170.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:35] r0dr1g0 (i=fdssdafd@189.25.65.221) left irc: Connection timed out [18:35] fhobia: i also would like to know that :) [18:35] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. 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[19:03] I noticed how distrowatch notes everything marked svn as beta [19:03] when svn doesnt nessicarily mean the code is al beta'd [19:05] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:05] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.174) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:08] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Tassis (n=tassis@unaffiliated/tassis) left irc: Operation timed out [19:09] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:09] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428723.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:14] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:19] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.37.5) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] peanut butter [19:19] jelly [19:19] sandwich [19:19] What is a sandwich for $250 Alex [19:19] time [19:19] date [19:19] fire|bird: pbj? [19:20] mingdao: yup. Not for me though, but apparently for fatalnix and diven. I was just eating a couple chocolate chip cookies. :P [19:20] rworkman: please please please influence 13.1 to shipping gtk 2.18.x; I hate being a version behind all the time [19:20] no just plain peanut butter and saltines [19:20] thrice`: two versions ;) [19:20] thrice`: ++, xfce's parole media player needs 2.18, and I don't really want to mess with updating it. :P [19:20] thrice`, then go use fedora [19:20] pygtk and pygobject too [19:21] Action: jeev flicks thrice`'s forehead [19:21] I want my $250 Alex! [19:21] jeev: ... [19:21] mingdao: It's, um, in the mail. :) [19:21] bobble bobble bobble! [19:21] stfu jeev [19:21] lol [19:21] can we have a non-stable glib2 too? I need it for webkit-gtk :D [19:21] hai [19:21] Toast you awake? [19:21] sigp239 (n=sigp239@62.225.51.109) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Camarade_Tux: yeah, we're sort of stuck at the webkit version sbo has without updating other stuff. [19:21] Camarade_Tux: polkit needs that too. :/ [19:21] What package can I find exo-helper in? [19:22] fire|bird: it's even worse for me ;) [19:22] Camarade_Tux: yeah :) [19:22] thrice`: 2.18.0 has some showstoppers from what I've read, BUT depending on how the development process goes and how long it takes, 2.18.x might be possible [19:22] thrice`, you're gonna die in your sleep tonight! [19:23] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:23] I need to get off of Slackware 12 [19:23] jeev: find some pics of thrice` online and take out all your frustrations there. [19:23] I need to get back on slackware 12 [19:23] rworkman, my isp filters goatse.cx [19:23] for my laptop [19:24] jeev: stop pm'ing, I don't care about your rashes [19:24] Monday or tuesday..my final Slackware server will be converted over to FreeNAS [19:24] what, i never pm'd you [19:24] lol!? [19:24] straterra, good ljuck with freenas! [19:24] I dont need luck [19:24] I got me [19:24] until corruption [19:24] Action: fatalnix gives jeev some straterra [19:24] well, i guess it was my fault [19:24] for setting up NTFS ;) [19:24] wasn't important, was a test anyways [19:24] ntfs is a decent FS [19:24] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@c-24-131-254-66.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] rworkman: does Pat know that wicd 1.6.2.1 is broken? [19:25] I need the exo library for slackware, where can I find it? [19:25] sigp239: if it's just exo, it's apart of the xfce package [19:25] http://google.com/search?q=evo [19:25] sigp239: grep "exo-helper" /var/log/packages/* [19:26] fatalnix: evo != exo [19:26] then s/v/x [19:26] NaCl: yes. If you don't mind, can you mail a reminder (plus some suggested text to put in the ChangeLog ) to me and Pat? [19:27] are you looking for libexo? [19:27] sigp239: it's part of xfce [19:27] rworkman: Ok. I'll do that tonight. [19:28] woah so wicd is broken? toast doesnt know that [19:28] I use wpa_supplicant, and he thinks its too confusing [19:28] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [19:28] fatalnix: a regex was messed up in 1.6.2.1 [19:28] rworkman, well I get an errror when I run mousepad. It says /usr/libexec/exo-helper-0.3: symbol lookup error: /usr/libexec/exo-helper-0.3: undefined symbol: g_dgettext [19:28] fatalnix: Fixed in 1.6.2.2 [19:28] sigp239: what Slackware version, and what have you done that might potentially break it? [19:29] have you installed anything that may have overwrote the newer libs? [19:30] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] doesnt xfce store all your prefs in ~/.xfce or something? technicly if you were paranoid you could reinstall xfce. [19:31] grazymax (n=grazymax@host198-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:31] It's not going to help in this case [19:32] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:32] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.251) joined ##slackware. [19:32] g_dgettext is in glib2... [19:32] ah shit comrad is here [19:32] jeev: ^^ [19:33] get in your bunker. [19:33] Jeev [19:33] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [19:34] sigp239: I'm going to go out on a limb and say this: I suspect that you've upgraded packages from 13.0 onto a 12.2 system. If you've done that, you've just learned that it doesn't work. [19:35] rworkman: or he has old gnome crap that needs recompiled. [19:35] Maybe, but exo shouldn't barf because of that [19:36] unless the problem is glib2 ;) [19:36] seems win7 disables visual effects while on battery power [19:36] Action: Camarade_Tux will get his wireless back on linux on tomorrow, promise [19:37] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:37] Anybody use screenlets on slack? When trying to run screenlets-manager, I keep getting an xdg error, it can't find it. I have pyxdg installed. [19:37] you've already broken your committment to linux comrad [19:37] you're banned from life [19:38] afk for a bit [19:38] jeev: hahaha, I've never been committed to anything [19:38] :O [19:38] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [19:38] and it's not my fault, 2.6.32-rc2 broke it :D [19:38] (kernel) [19:38] wget-stops (n=wget-sto@205.Red-88-26-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] Well who installed the kernel :P [19:39] is it old news that http://archlinux.org/ and arch forums are down? [19:39] XGizzmo_: not me, it's cp -_- [19:40] gnubien no answer here [19:41] thanks [19:41] k [19:41] dig it [19:41] night all :) [19:41] gn [19:41] night Camarade_Tux [19:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:42] oh thank god commie is going [19:42] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] everybody, stop speaking, deco is back [19:43] i am downloading a 700 MB file with the command wget -t inf -c http://website.com/700megfile but after a minute of downloading at 150K, the download speed slows down until the download stalls and the only way to restart the download is by pressing ctrl c but after a minute the same problem happens again. what gives? [19:43] :( [19:43] T_T [19:43] night Camarade_Tux [19:43] Camarade_Tux: that's now what you said last night... [19:43] wget-stops your isp is messing with you [19:43] wget-stops, have you considered that it's the route or your internet ? [19:43] not* [19:43] Action: jeev cops a feel of hitest's boobs [19:43] lol [19:43] is it -c ? [19:44] it is not my internet connection because i can download other files from other websites and do not have that problem [19:44] (to coninue) [19:44] uh wget-stops. [19:44] lol [19:44] then it's the mirror you're downloading from [19:44] then it' [19:44] crap jeev ='( [19:44] how could you determine it to be a wget problem if it works from other sites. [19:44] buh, berlios.de is dead too [19:44] Camarade_Tux: go home [19:44] vbatts: how unusual ;) [19:44] deco: I am :) [19:45] Camarade_Tux: well get drunk or something.... [19:45] vbatts definately temporary [19:45] deco: nah, I'm going to bead ;) [19:45] s/bead/bed/ [19:45] Action: hitest stabs jeev [19:45] Camarade_Tux: did you leave the key outside like always ? [19:45] yeah [19:45] Camarade_Tux: :) [19:45] deco: but three kilometers away ;) [19:46] Camarade_Tux: damn it! , gonna have to break the window now [19:46] deco: third floor [19:46] Camarade_Tux: pfft,jerk [19:46] deco: and each floor is 3 meters high [19:46] jump [19:46] /nick Juliette [19:47] Action: Camarade_Tux is still waiting for his romeo [19:47] s/his/her/ [19:47] its [19:47] Camarade_Tux: me!, that's what you call me when i pull your hair [19:47] Quiznos: ='( [19:47] k [19:47] maybe but how can i solve it? [19:48] deco: yeah, I'm waiting for you ;) [19:48] complain to isp [19:48] find another mirror [19:48] buy from distrowatch.org [19:48] Camarade_Tux: well... I'm seeing someone else now... [19:48] deco, lets learn how to code together. [19:48] wget-stops: you can try to tell to wget to continue the download, quite ugly but can work [19:48] XGizzmo_: kinda looks like a bird [19:48] i dont know if you could consider php coding [19:48] jeev: yeah :) [19:48] jeev: i found a great book [19:48] books are for lamers [19:49] php c'est tabou, on en viendra tous à bout ! [19:49] jeev: hmmm done how will you learn ? [19:49] Camarade_Tux: shuddap [19:49] Camarade_Tux, but how? [19:49] deco: bind me :) [19:49] -continue ? [19:49] comrad, stop talking russian! [19:49] jeev: i mean than how will you learn? [19:49] redtricycle (n=redtricy@66-240-27-3.isp.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:49] err, --continue or -c [19:50] jeev: it's french :) [19:50] i know i'm joking [19:50] Camarade_Tux: j'adore le Camarade_Tux [19:50] if you seriously think i still think yo'ure russian.. you've got issues [19:50] ja mapelle wladimir [19:50] deco: s/le // ;) [19:50] deco: <3 [19:50] Camarade_Tux: :) [19:50] wladimir kitchsko [19:50] jeev: what, you don't think I'm russian? xD [19:50] Camarade_Tux: you're polish [19:51] he's turdish [19:51] I should really go to bed, I'm trying to get better schedules and it's 2am [19:51] lol [19:51] deco: :) [19:51] gn [19:51] half french, half lebanese ;) [19:51] *poof* [19:51] Camarade_Tux: bon nuit [19:51] what locale? [19:51] be well [19:51] jeev: how are you learning php ? [19:52] one hcar at a time [19:52] Quiznos: DonQuixote [19:52] omg Steve Martin on radio _King Tut_ [19:52] deco? [19:52] redtricycle (n=redtricy@66-240-27-3.isp.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] if you need help with php dont be shy to give me a heads up [19:53] wget-stops (n=wget-sto@205.Red-88-26-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:53] you want Don? [19:53] fatalnix: thanks :) [19:53] Quiznos: yup [19:53] Nick change: Quiznos -> DonQuixote [19:53] I'm no master but I've used it quite a bit [19:53] Nick change: deco -> SanchoPanza [19:53] Action: DonQuixote tilts at everything [19:53] deco, just doing work [19:53] million dollar shit [19:53] what's the latest ? [19:53] Action: SanchoPanza runs after DonQuixote [19:53] dont trip [19:53] jeev: nice nice [19:54] DonQuixote: the latest what ? [19:54] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.161.203) joined ##slackware. [19:54] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:54] anything [19:54] hmmmm [19:54] injustice [19:54] lol [19:54] lol [19:54] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [19:55] well I'm learing php and mysql [19:55] k [19:55] million dollar shit?? oh jeev [19:55] who the hell is sanchopanza [19:55] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:55] jeev: do you admin servers ? [19:55] thricearoni [19:55] there aren't that many dishes in the world [19:55] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [19:55] SanchoPanza, i have over 80 servers now for myslf [19:55] jeev: niceeee [19:55] where? [19:55] 79 of them are storage of thrice`'s mom's vaginal pictures [19:56] jeev: DonQuixote's helper [19:56] datacenter's [19:56] what is it with you and picking on thrice? [19:56] so you're just a user? [19:56] first it was slackitude pciking on me I think [19:56] fatalnix, he caught me reaming his mom and he's been mad at me since [19:56] picking* [19:56] no love :( [19:56] so i make fun of him [19:56] lol [19:56] ... [19:56] lol [19:56] didnt your safety instructor never to ream holes with a drill press? [19:57] jeev: Take that crap somewhere else. [19:57] its part of OSHA [19:57] yes mam gizzmo [19:59] deco, where are you [19:59] see SanchoPanza [19:59] my faithful assistant [19:59] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [19:59] heh [19:59] read the title book [19:59] or see a movie [19:59] Nick change: NaCl -> SpanishInquisitr [19:59] Man of la Mancha [20:00] blackula (i=1000@97.81.73.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:00] SanchoPanza the other night, the nose? Cyrano du Burgerac [20:00] Jose Ferrar [20:01] blackula (i=1000@97.81.73.186) joined ##slackware. [20:01] deco is on drugs again [20:01] brb [20:02] Hey guys, I attempt to set my wallpaper using fbsetbg -f and it returns an error. The outcome is that the wallpaper is set but it is off about 40cm to the left. [20:04] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [20:04] sounds like the image is either not the right size for your desktop resolution, or the fbsetbg program doesn't stretch it ... [20:04] i'm so upset, i lost the password to my KVM over IP for a VERY important server [20:04] what kind of image file ? (png, jpg, ?) [20:06] jeev, that sucks :o [20:06] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:08] jeev: you should peel more potatoes, it improves the memory [20:08] SanchoPanza (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [20:09] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] i so hate wireless phones! [20:09] anything wireless :( [20:09] makes my internet go down [20:10] i traded my cellphone for a potato [20:10] RipVanWinkle: was it crispy ? [20:10] raw [20:10] yum [20:11] hello [20:11] hi [20:11] someone knows how to solve the No working leases in persistent database - sleeping [20:11] rk4n3: jpg [20:11] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] Nick change: deco -> ninja [20:12] samurai_: wanna fight ? [20:12] Nick change: samurai_ -> splinterthemaste [20:12] yes i want [20:12] coward [20:12] Nick change: ninja -> deco [20:13] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:13] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:13] aww Sanchom died? [20:13] or fell off the wagom? [20:13] you wants ? [20:13] Nick change: DonQuixote -> Quibbler [20:13] Nick change: deco -> PurpleSmurf [20:13] sup [20:13] heh [20:13] Nick change: splinterthemaste -> cacamarron [20:13] it's nice being purple [20:14] Nick change: Quibbler -> mLandon [20:14] yo Slackers [20:14] lol [20:14] lol [20:14] Nick change: cacamarron -> DonPijoteDlaGarc [20:14] Nick change: PurpleSmurf -> andarious [20:14] greetings and salutations [20:14] shirley he has a macro for that [20:15] lol [20:15] on join macro [20:15] its too much to type everynight [20:15] heh [20:15] adn its always perfect [20:15] ne'er a mistake [20:15] hmm [20:15] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:16] lol dont mess this up [20:16] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:16] oh oh. [20:16] regulars [20:16] rk4n3: Sorry I dc/ed [20:16] BOLO [20:16] ewww [20:16] andarious: um, change your nick? it's quite decieving [20:16] hmmm [20:16] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] yes thrice` [20:16] jeev where are you ? [20:16] right here [20:16] jeev: thrice` is being a little... [20:17] little..? [20:17] impersonator ftl :P [20:17] i'd slap him but i have my right hand in his moms butt [20:17] heh [20:17] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [20:17] Nick change: andarious -> deco [20:17] you do belong in politics, you know [20:17] andarius: :P [20:17] phew [20:17] heh [20:17] lol [20:17] oh, i'm going to use my uber-elite domain name to create an awesome political blog [20:17] ok [20:17] andarius: you were almost mistaken for a mindless d-bag [20:17] i'm looking for right wing wackos to post on it so i could own them [20:17] ic. [20:17] blogs are over rated [20:17] be polite or be liberal; cant be both [20:17] time to shutdown and go upstairs [20:17] gn [20:18] I hatenot having a battery... [20:18] fatalnix, www.ebay.com [20:18] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] www.amazion.com [20:18] oops [20:18] www.amazonion.com [20:18] most rightwing whackos are drooling on their TV sets while watching Fox news [20:18] RipVanWinkle sure, all their hotties. [20:18] drool-worthy [20:18] :) [20:18] fbsetbg is setting my wallpaper incorrectly. The image comes up 40cm to the left of where it should be. Any diea? [20:18] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:18] liberals dont have cleavage [20:19] lol [20:19] RipVanWinkle, i hope they die [20:19] 40cm? tha'ts off in left field [20:19] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-48-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:19] dontcha mean 40mm? [20:19] hi fredoslack [20:19] hi, mLandon [20:19] i seen leftist liberals have their own brand of screwed up politics, [20:20] mLandon: No, I mean like 20 cm, actually [20:20] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.28.48) joined ##slackware. [20:20] they're insane (innane) [20:20] inane [20:20] look, libe3rals are just as dumb as conservatives [20:20] the only difference is [20:20] 20cm is still too far [20:20] who is low enough to pput the biggest moron in office? that's the conservatives [20:20] mLandon: Well it's about that far off. [20:20] i dont care if the republicans win and destroy the world.. just dont put palin in power. PLEASE [20:20] jeev we dint erected the current pretender [20:21] they [20:21] lolol [20:21] huh [20:21] that made a lot of sense [20:21] i'm too conservative to be part of that party [20:21] this is a crack free channel [20:21] i'm uber-* [20:21] heh [20:21] Action: mLandon like giving mLandon more character [20:21] he's too [20:21] ... [20:21] ugh; plain :) [20:21] lol [20:22] lol [20:22] sometimes you got to put the bong down for awhile [20:22] he's so ``middle of center-center [20:22] lol [20:22] mLandon, you need to /nick MLandon [20:22] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:22] no; i want to distinguish meself [20:22] Nick change: deco -> Quiznos [20:23] damn nothing on tv [20:23] rofl [20:23] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.28.48) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:23] finaly, someone's paying attention [20:23] nice! [20:23] Action: Quiznos is ready for some coffee [20:23] ejm (n=ezra@75-174-117-99.bois.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] the Simpsons, FamilyGuy, & etc... [20:23] not yet [20:23] simpsons is on atm [20:23] here [20:23] crap [20:23] thats what i am watching too [20:23] i hope i'm home by then [20:24] fatalnix_ (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] jeev: working on a Sunday ? [20:24] deco, i work for myself.. i work every day [20:24] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:24] jeev: oh ok good [20:24] Nick change: fatalnix_ -> Fatalnix [20:24] i'm constructing a multi million peso business [20:24] redtricycle (n=redtricy@66-240-27-3.isp.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:25] to do what? [20:25] Nick change: mLandon -> Dominion [20:25] proprietary stuffs [20:25] jeev: can i help ? [20:25] corvo_ (n=corvo@189.115.31.231) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:25] someone needs to be stuffed %b [20:25] lolo no [20:25] lol [20:25] lol [20:26] oh here's a nick from back in the day [20:26] Nick change: Dominion -> RoscoPCoetrain [20:26] Does anyone know why fbsetbg might be disbehaving with me? [20:26] someone needs to be stuffed [20:26] Action: Quiznos doesn't know who that is [20:26] Lol. [20:26] the sheriff from umm [20:26] Hey Quiznos. Do you know any programming languages? [20:26] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:26] daisy and the cousins trouble maker with uncle jessie [20:26] i do [20:26] Fatalnix: not really [20:27] Fatalnix: learning php and mysql atm [20:27] Just curious. You seemed like one. [20:27] Quiznos dukes of hazzard tv series then movie [20:27] sayed: what are the symptoms? [20:27] RoscoPCoetrain: oh k [20:27] Fatalnix: i seemed like what ? [20:28] A programmer. [20:28] I just guessed out of the blue. [20:28] Fatalnix: k, but i do know html and css.... [20:29] that is a templating language. [20:29] i hate undooing winders html+css [20:29] any good links for setting up a LAMP server for the first time? [20:29] Fatalnix: shuddap [20:29] its ok! [20:29] Fatalnix: just please.... go away [20:29] ...Why? [20:29] ejm a howto on tldp.org? [20:29] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]" [20:29] I've got a pentium II, but it doesn't have a NIC. [20:30] getone [20:30] sweet. [20:30] they';re cheap [20:30] thanks [20:30] Fatalnix: because you're annoying ?... [20:30] Just trying to fit it. [20:30] in* [20:30] omg Marsha Wallace; wasnt she a lawyer in the simpson trial? [20:30] if i can install slackware in a potato you can install slackware in anything, including lawnmowers [20:30] Guess I'm doing a horrible job at it. [20:30] Fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:31] lol [20:31] Nick change: RoscoPCoetrain -> UncleJessie [20:31] Nick change: SpanishInquisitr -> NaCl [20:32] damn [20:32] Nick change: UncleJessie -> SilverSurfer [20:32] yay [20:32] Nick change: DonPijoteDlaGarc -> cacamarron [20:32] SilverSurfer: hi [20:32] hi [20:33] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Nick change: Quiznos -> nono [20:33] hi yesyes [20:33] hmm. [20:33] heh [20:33] hi. [20:34] Quiznos is now known as DaisyDuke [20:34] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:34] heh [20:34] Nick change: nono -> babycakes [20:35] jrt05 (n=jason@pool-72-69-224-120.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.186.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] jrt05 is living in the past, maan. [20:36] ? huh [20:39] life is just a game.... [20:39] silent (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] I'm trying to change the resolution of my console, so I edit lilo.conf and uncomment vga=771, however this doesn't change the resolution at all. Can anybody point me in the correct direction? [20:39] do you rebot? [20:39] I'M LIKING THIS NICK [20:39] oops [20:39] looks cool [20:39] jrt05: did you issue "lilo" after making the change? [20:39] SilverSurfer, of course, if you are talking to me [20:39] jrt05: shuddap [20:39] mingdao, no, I figured a reboot would be good enough [20:39] fuck off babycakes [20:39] lemme have Q for a moment? [20:39] jrt05: run /sbin/lilo after changing it [20:39] jrt05: you need to run lilo after maing changes. [20:39] making* [20:39] Nick change: SilverSurfer -> Quiznos [20:39] jrt05: you must issue "lilo" to write the changes to the bootloader [20:39] Quiznos: \o/ [20:39] Nick change: Quiznos -> SilverSurfer [20:39] ok [20:39] Action: babycakes rides with SilverSurfer [20:39] but i'm +e now [20:40] Nice, worked great. Thanks! [20:40] seriously [20:40] what ? [20:40] Nick change: SilverSurfer -> Dominion [20:40] quit changing your fucking nick [20:40] thrice`: When did ##slackware become ##slackware-crazy_town? :P [20:40] good grief [20:40] thrice`: oh big boy [20:40] thrice`: uses big words [20:40] continuation from last week [20:40] Nick change: Dominion -> mLandon [20:40] you've contributed nothing in the past hour [20:41] y0 Slackers [20:41] do you even run slackwrae? [20:41] jeev: i need your help [20:41] at least jeev has a brain [20:41] ahving one is not hte same as using one. [20:41] y0 mLandon [20:41] hey [20:42] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [20:42] Quiznos: creating the appearance of impersonating other users isn't cool. [20:42] rworkman, I'm running the latest version of Slax. [20:42] it's been done in fun before [20:42] and those here know wh i am [20:42] who [20:42] Action: babycakes waves at mLandon [20:42] sigp239: Slax or Slackware? [20:42] Action: mLandon waves [20:42] rworkman, Slax [20:43] Action: mLandon waves tuna sub from Quiznos [20:43] lol [20:43] lol [20:43] FAIL [20:43] roliveira (i=1000@95.69.59.159) joined ##slackware. [20:43] rworkman, I'm building a custom live CD, using fluxbox as the window manager and using xfce programs thunar, mousepad, and vte [20:43] roliveira (i=1000@95.69.59.159) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:43] seirously, deco is on crack [20:43] sigp239: then several things come to mind: 1) you're not running Slackware. 2) you need to make that clear when asking for help. 3) I don't appreciate having other people think there's a problem with Slackware's xfce package, especially since I'm the maintainer and I know those guys. [20:44] sigp239: YDIW. [20:44] jeev: :) [20:44] rworkman, That's why I asking on the xfce channel. You called me over here. [20:44] ha ha [20:44] Does the audiocd protocol have a group I need to join? The audiocd protocol fails whenever I try to use it. If I need add more info, let me know. [20:45] sigp239: it's not an xfce problem either. The reason I called you over here is because YOU SAID YOU WERE RUNNING SLACKWARE. Don't cop an attitude when you're wrong. [20:45] rworkman, Please quote where I said I was running slackware. [20:45] stop fighting guys :( [20:46] silent: kinda hard to tell what your problem is ... [20:46] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] mingdao: i would think he can't play music cds.... [20:46] silent: put yourself in 17(audio),18(video),19(cdrom),83(plugdev) groups for sure [20:46] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:46] sigp239: all I see is where you said "Slackware has no package exo or exo-helper" in #xfce, and then nightmorph (the gentoo packager) pinged me and said you were having troubles iwth Slackware packages. [20:47] babycakes: use your crystal ball [20:47] mingdao, I'm trying to use KAudioCreator and it gives "Malformed URL" Under root I get "audiocd protocol died unexpectedly" I'll double check the groups. [20:47] sigp239: the point is: make it clear what distro you're using. Slackware derivatives != Slackware [20:47] Action: babycakes rubs his crystal ball [20:47] mingdao: nothing :/ [20:48] jeev: can i have a server? come on you have like 80.... [20:48] silent: others will have to help with K* ... out of my area [20:48] I've check /etc/group and I'm in the ones listed by mingdao [20:48] rworkman, Yes, I was asking in #xfce, and it turns out that the slackware package that contains exo-helper is in glib2. That problem has been resolved. [20:48] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.28.48) joined ##slackware. [20:48] What? [20:48] oh lawd [20:49] glib2 doesn't have exo-helper [20:49] sigp239: grep "exo-helper" /var/log/packages/* <<-- that's how we find them in Slackware [20:49] Nick change: mLandon -> Quiznos [20:50] Quiznos: wb [20:50] ty [20:50] sigp239: glib2 has the gettext symbols that you were missing in libexo, but you should have had glib2 installed already. [20:50] If this adds anything: KAudioCreator puts out "QFile::remove: Empty or null file name" [20:50] The current problem I have is that Thunar will not load. It complains about failing to load the fallback icon from "/usr/share/pixmaps/Thunar/Thunar-fallback-icon.png" [20:50] jrt05 (n=jason@pool-72-69-224-120.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] dose it exist? [20:51] Nick change: babycakes -> deco [20:51] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:52] Quiznos, yes it does [20:52] is there content within? [20:52] non-0 size? [20:53] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1531 Aug 6 03:52 Thunar-fallback-icon.png [20:53] is it mode 400 or better? [20:53] ok good [20:53] sigp239: sounds like you're missing quite a few other things related to glib and gtk. I don't recall which ones though [20:53] (nor do we care) [20:54] sigp239: see if gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders returns a lot of output (or throws an error) [20:54] is there an easy way to setup inotify on accessing that png? [20:54] so sigp239 can get info on access? [20:54] Why bother? [20:54] bc he wants to know [20:55] rworkman, It throws out a lot of output. [20:55] it's not our job nor duty to judge his use of distro; just to help solve prob [20:55] He's got a problem caused by not having enough packages installed, since he's working on a derivative of Slax, which is a derivative of Slackware. [20:55] Quiznos: it's not your job to decide "our" job. [20:55] :O [20:56] rworkman dont poke me bc you're miffed at sigp239 [20:56] I think there are missing dependencies for Thunar and I have to manually create slax packages for each and every one of them. libpng is the one I am currently adding... [20:56] sigp239: ah yes [20:56] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] gm152 !! [20:57] I'm not miffed. [20:57] sigp239: why not just install Slackware......you know you want to:) [20:57] Oh my, Just figured it out. Just in case someone wants to know, the tmp directory for wasn't set. But I just got an error message [20:57] prior words betray your current state of mind [20:57] silent set to what? [20:57] Hey hitest [20:57] hitest, Can I build a custom live CD with slackware? [20:57] heh [20:57] that's Quiznos favorite thing to say. [20:57] hiya fire|bird [20:58] what fave? [20:58] hitest: How are you? [20:58] < Quiznos> prior words betray your current state of mind [20:58] chazbro (n=chaz_bro@70.234.191.195) joined ##slackware. [20:58] heh [20:58] I am well, fire|bird. thanks you. you? [20:58] it's elegantly correct. [20:58] gah [20:58] hitest: I'm doing well, thanks. :P [20:58] haha [20:58] Quiznos, apparent it was defaulted to a custom tmp directory which I neglected to fill in, I ended up using the default tmp directory. [20:58] shit [20:58] silent ah [20:58] hitest: Hows typing going? :P [20:58] heh :| [20:59] Quiznos, yep. Now I'm onto the next error message. [20:59] ok [20:59] fire|bird: excellent.....why do you ask? lol [20:59] brb [20:59] hitest: hahaha, just curious. :P [20:59] haha [20:59] how goes things [21:00] silent: still can't play the audio CD? [21:00] chazbro (n=chaz_bro@70.234.191.195) left ##slackware. [21:00] hitest: I've been trying to get screenlets working, but no dice as of yet. :P [21:00] mingdao, I'm trying to rip it. I just need to learn how to use faac. Apparently what I read didn't work. [21:01] sigp239: what's wrong with Slackware? You need a slack live CD? [21:01] silent: not interested in wav or mp3 files? [21:01] fire|bird: bummer. hope you get it figured out, man. [21:02] mingdao, mp3 maybe. But I've heard that m4a have better quality. Is that true? [21:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:02] hitest: thanks, me too. It can't find xdg, however pyxdg is installed. :P [21:03] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] silent: cdparanoia -B will rip audio tracks from CD to wav files in current dir; for i in *.wav; do lame "$i" "`basename "$i" .wav`".mp3; done <<- convert wav to mp3 [21:03] silent: I don't know about m4a, as wav and mp3 have always sufficed for my needs [21:03] . [21:03] hi pot [21:03] samurai_ (n=samurai@89.29.158.244) joined ##slackware. [21:03] yo Quiznos [21:04] silent: m4a *may* have better quality, but for the majority of people, you won't hear the difference. [21:04] damn, the bass line from BarneyMiller is still awesome [21:04] greetings mfillpot [21:04] mingdao, thanks for the info. I would use cdparanoia but I like CDDB to, unless you can tied them toward. [21:04] silent: second command requires lame which is not included with a Slackware install [21:04] it's weird being a regular and being noticed [21:04] fire|bird, thanks for the clarification [21:04] it's my fault [21:04] i'm soowee [21:04] mingdao, I know. [21:04] silent: You can add the tagging afterward if you so choose. [21:04] silent: I'm not that much of a music junky [21:05] mingdao, I'm a semi-music junky. [21:05] silent: there are lots of HOW-TOs about that stuff on the interweb [21:06] mingdao, I've see through my digging. Lots and lots. [21:06] silent: If you want it to grab the cddb data while ripping the cd, abcde, from slackbuilds.org, will do that. [21:06] fire|bird, ok thanks. I'll try that. [21:06] brb [21:06] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Read error: 1.414213562 (Excessive square root of 2)" [21:06] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] re [21:06] wb [21:07] silent: read the man page for it once you install it, for example, for flac, you could use abcde -o flac [21:07] ty [21:09] fire|bird, mingdao, thanks for the help. I look it up online and save you guys the trouble. [21:09] *I'll [21:09] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:10] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [21:10] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:11] greetings mancha, godling [21:12] re, f'bird [21:13] how would I go about cloning a user including their rights for a new profile? [21:14] xinyou (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) joined ##slackware. [21:14] acidchild (n=acid@spy.int.sevenl.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] mfillpot: ever seen star wars attack of the clones ? [21:14] afternoon [21:14] deco: ha ha ha [21:15] their rights is not precise enough, group inclusion? sudoers? etc [21:15] fix your Q [21:15] evening acidchild [21:15] hi [21:15] I only want their groups, shell, and home directory location [21:16] godling: HI [21:17] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [21:19] what's up? [21:19] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [21:19] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:19] nothing .. got a fever :/ [21:19] cacamarron (n=samurai@89.29.158.244) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:21] argh! [21:21] bjo321 (n=bryan@69.171.163.186) joined ##slackware. [21:21] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:21] what? what? you're back in windows?! [21:21] no [21:21] lol [21:21] windows is the best OS [21:21] until you discover linux. ;) [21:22] the only reason to run linux is so you can run windows in kvm :P [21:22] haha [21:22] haha windows sucks lolz [21:22] :P [21:22] who actually respects mcse holders? [21:23] rworkman: still around? [21:23] windows doesnt suck [21:23] mfillpot: they get work [21:23] at least not these days [21:23] godling: they get work because those that hire them aren't any smarter than them [21:23] probably, but they get work [21:23] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection reset by peer [21:23] mfillpot, you can get all that you want with "adduser" btw [21:24] itll prompt for shell, for homedir, for groups [21:24] nachox: can I msg you? [21:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:24] mingdao, yes [21:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] mancha: I was hoping for a more direct way to copy the memberships, but I'll find a scriptable way [21:25] sure, you can grep /etc/group and then add it to the new user [21:25] mancha: that is what I was looking at [21:25] hitest, Yes I need a live cd, and it must be customized to my specific needs. slax is the one I am currently working with. Does slackware offer a better solution? [21:25] xinyou (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) left ##slackware. [21:25] silent (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:26] does anybody have the same version of webkit that is on SBo installed on their computer? [21:26] xinyou (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) joined ##slackware. [21:26] what version is that neonflux? [21:26] neonflux: yes [21:26] well on SBo it is r45012 [21:26] I can grab it from SBo then I will [21:26] mfill, the easiest way would be to grep to get the relevant group lines and use sed to append ,newuser to each ogh those [21:27] fire|bird: can you tell me what the version number is from cat /usr/lib*/pkgconfig/webkit-1.0.pc [21:27] sure, sec. [21:29] Version: 1.1.10 [21:29] ok, cool [21:29] just what I wanted to know [21:29] fire|bird: thanks [21:29] you're welcome [21:29] incucullo (i=incucull@c3p0.reverse.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] mfillpot, what problem are you trying to solve? [21:29] are the Intel commercials starting to annoy anyone other than myself? [21:29] xinyou (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) left ##slackware. [21:29] mfill, try this: for i in $(groups original_user); do gpasswd clon_user $i; done [21:30] knlve (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) joined ##slackware. [21:30] original_user and clone_user are what you would expect [21:30] gpasswd?! who the hell uses that? [21:30] Does anybody know how I could fix this issue? (not the rsvg, but the xdg one) http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/pZrtul69.html [21:30] eek, slight mistake, for i in $(groups original_user); do gpasswd -a clone_user $i; done [21:31] who uses it? gpasswd is a very nice util, who wouldn't want to use it? [21:31] indeed [21:33] i just use usermod [21:33] why doesn't slackware have pwdck? [21:33] usermod can wipe all of your groups if you aren't careful [21:33] yep, there's the adrenaline [21:33] :P [21:34] I have already completed the change through using a combination of sed input statements and usermod [21:34] I use vigr. :P [21:34] mfill, try my one-liner [21:35] fire|bird: install xdg? [21:36] heh, distrib flamewars are so 2007, in 2009 we flame how to change group memberships :> [21:36] hahah [21:36] it only took a couple of minutes, I was just hoping that a one line solution was already in place [21:36] godling: I have it installed already, pyxdg from SBo. [21:37] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] mfillpot, sure. put what you used in a script and use that? :P only one line [21:38] sigp239: sounds like Slax is what you want, Slackware doesn't have a live CD. I suppose you could build your own derivative. I love running Slackware. Each to his own:-) [21:38] fire|bird: the error means that it couldn't find the xdg module, so I wonder if it installed correctly. [21:38] fire|bird: aren't you using 64bit? [21:38] agentc0re: On the laptop yeah, I'm messing with this on the desktop though. [21:38] fire|bird: ah, okay. [21:38] creating a live slack would be a fun-ish project [21:39] NaCl: pyxdg or screenlets? I used a pyxdg package I had from another time I built it because the d/l link was down today for it. [21:39] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:39] fire|bird: which version? [21:39] portability would require working with care though [21:39] fire|bird: I get a 404 when I try to download the source tarball [21:39] fire|bird: pyxdg [21:39] ah [21:39] Action: godling reads what fire|bird typed [21:39] fire|bird: older versions may install to python2.5 or something like that [21:39] godling: yeah, the link is down. :P [21:39] older packages, rather [21:39] yeah, I don't know fire|bird. could be anything [21:40] fire|bird: steal the source tarball from debian/gentoo if you want. :P [21:40] NaCl: Yeah, it's the same version as SBo still has, but now that you mention that, it may have been a package I built from 12.2 or something. :P [21:40] re [21:40] fire|bird: yep, that would do it. [21:40] haha, I probably will. [21:40] NaCl: Thank you. [21:40] thanks godling [21:41] fire|bird: look in /usr/lib64/ and see if you've got multiple python directories [21:41] np [21:42] if so you can probably do a hacky thing and just pop pyxdg in the right directory [21:42] or symlink [21:42] godling: don't think you can do that [21:42] dang, yeah, I have a 2.5 dir now, I didn't before. :P [21:42] Action: fire|bird facepalms [21:42] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-81-226.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] there you go fire|bird [21:42] MLanden !!! [21:42] y0 slackers...How's all? [21:42] Thanks godling :P [21:43] lol [21:43] fire|bird: I exist to crush hope. no problem. [21:43] Quiznos !!! [21:43] Hey MLanden, Quiznos was being an imposter of you earlier. :) [21:43] godling: haha [21:43] hi MLanden:) [21:43] orly,fie|bird? [21:43] godling: In this case, hope dented, not crushed......yet :) [21:43] knlve (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) left irc: "leaving" [21:43] y0 hitest [21:43] MLanden: yeah, but he spelled (as is expected) your nick wrong. [21:44] well,how's he doin' with the new intel code...better then me I hope [21:44] haha, having issues with that? [21:45] fire|bird: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pyxdg/pyxdg_0.17.orig.tar.gz [21:45] NaCl: No? When it installs does it compile the module for the particular arch? [21:45] NaCl: not too clear on python module installation yet [21:45] will be in a minute though :P [21:45] godling: bytecode format changed [21:45] fire|bird: not really,it's not that bad [21:45] OH SNAP [21:45] you're right [21:45] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:45] NaCl: Thank you. :) [21:45] could he still just open it up and do python setup.py install manually? [21:46] It being the source archive? Sure. [21:46] go to it fire|bird [21:46] Action: godling cracks his whip [21:46] Or just mv it to pyxdg-0.17.tar.gz and then run the slackbuild on it. :P [21:46] MLanden get yer own spacen [21:47] NaCl: sure, make things difficult [21:47] re [21:47] re hello [21:47] godling: How is that more difficult? [21:47] NaCl: is your sarcasm detector broken? [21:47] Quiznos: lol...will do...:P jus' facen the spacen'..:D [21:47] MLanden we had a nick-swap party earlier; i have tried to properly impersonate you and liven up your chatter :)~ [21:48] godling: was about to mention something of that sort. :P [21:48] godling: Salt is bitter, didn't you know that? [21:48] Action: godling dumps water on NaCl [21:48] MLanden your subtly is too blah :) [21:48] godling: Someone did that to me yesterday. :P [21:48] Quiznos: just as long as it's proper [21:48] did you dissolve? [21:48] tried to also make you more political :) [21:48] godling: yes. [21:48] kinky [21:48] daidoji (n=daidoji7@adsl-76-200-158-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] Action: MLanden feels like a mangled D&D figurine [21:49] apoca (n=apoca@haydn.n2.nognu.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:49] there are no figurines in dnd [21:49] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-129-184.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:50] MLanden: You're probably thinking of Warhammer [21:50] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-129-184.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] stupid game [21:51] godling: right....probably was [21:51] agentc0re: not as bitter as my heart [21:51] i hate my internet. [21:51] I have a +7 to delayed reactions [21:51] s/internet/qwest [21:51] you hate your qwest? [21:51] agentc0re: at&t? [21:52] i'm not sure if it's the weather or not. [21:52] Action: NaCl gives agentc0re a new quest [21:52] gnubien: AT&T != Qwest. [21:52] ok [21:52] well my router is upgrading.. but it hasn't reboot itself yet. [21:53] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:53] firedix (n=firedix@host16.190-230-58.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:54] cut the power half way through the flash and see how long it takes to debrick [21:55] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-1-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] that fsck every 20 days... [21:56] is that necessary? can I turn it off without any ill effects? [21:56] you can change it [21:56] danger redtricycle! [21:56] so...don't disable it then .. [21:56] is there a way to make it fsck while my system is running? [21:56] no [21:57] no redtricycle [21:57] Or can it only do it when its unmounted? [21:57] yes redtricycle [21:57] -_- [21:57] man fsck :P [21:57] it's not every 20 days, it is usually every 20 mounts (by default) [21:57] right, 20 mounts [21:57] is what I meant [21:57] I figured [21:58] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-14-120.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] red, it's a good number. why risk fs problems by removing it? [21:58] redtricycle: it has a purpose, and unless you're going to do it manually, it's probably best to leave it alone [21:58] redtricycle: might keep you from losing some data one day [21:58] daidoji (n=daidoji7@adsl-76-200-158-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "bleh" [21:58] he can space it apart more if he likes [21:58] as long as it gets checked [21:58] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:59] okay, but I can just edit the statup scripts... [21:59] and check if it's a weekend.. [21:59] then run it [21:59] Okay, okay [21:59] how would you fsck your root part? [21:59] it's a PC ... you can do whatever you want [21:59] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [21:59] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:59] i guess my tihnking was [21:59] raelakoira (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:59] that hard drives nowadays have built in error checking [21:59] but this checks the filesystem [21:59] redtricycle: stop it and run a crontab to fsck on each girlfriend's birthday ;) [21:59] and not the data itself, right? [21:59] it's not the hd that gets checked [22:00] redtricycle: built in error checking? [22:00] hard-drives will map out data errors [22:00] redtricycle: you'd best leave it alone for your own good [22:00] 20 is alot of mounts [22:00] the hd's will have hardware based bad block checks, usually [22:00] it's a laptop... [22:00] o [22:00] so yeah, 20 is a lot of mounts [22:00] 2 per day on a lappie [22:00] nevermind redtricycle [22:01] do whatever you want :P [22:01] btw, use tune2fs to do whatever you want. have fun fragging your fs. :P [22:02] part of each sector of a disk is destined to keep crc hashes of the sector [22:02] curious: is possible to compile with make for a win32 binary? [22:02] unless you have an intelligent reason to change the 20 mount default, i'd apply the principle: SFWIT [22:02] aka stop fucking with it [22:03] nod, thanks for the info [22:03] mancha: what's the point of using an acronym if you just have to explain what the acronym means? [22:03] powtrix: if you have the appropriate libraries an technical expertise - yes [22:03] it brings me a lot of personal joy [22:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:03] godling: so he can use it again in the future? =/ [22:03] I bet killing kittens brings mancha lots of personal joy. ;P [22:03] how are people tonight? [22:04] godling: lol [22:04] mancha, I like the principle but it would be better if it were pronounceable [22:04] acerbic, acidchild [22:04] knlve (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) joined ##slackware. [22:04] killing trolls brings me joy [22:04] godling: good good [22:04] touche [22:04] mancha: simple things in life =] [22:04] Okay, is there a way to do PARTIAL fsck's? [22:04] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:04] lol [22:04] redtricycle: do you understand what you're asking? [22:04] say I want to do 1/20th of a fsck every boot [22:04] heh [22:05] raelakoira (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] i slide on my trolls down 3 sets of 7 stairs yesterday [22:05] ;/ [22:05] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:05] redtricycle: now you're trolling [22:05] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] 09:54 < mingdao> redtricycle: you'd best leave it alone for your own good [22:06] redtricycle: you're proven you haven't read, have no understanding, and don't care for the advice given [22:06] mingdao: don't you have a chicken to choke? [22:06] ;P [22:06] http://imgur.com/WEHIC.jpg [22:06] do I read it right, we got another one tonight? [22:06] no, I'm busy taking the training wheel's off my redtricycle [22:06] hehe [22:06] mfillpot: you're here, aren't you? [22:06] does a tricycle with training wheels have 5 wheels? [22:07] And still, slackware has no package for exo [22:07] though I do need to finish building my shiny new chicken tractor [22:07] mancha: i saw a harley with 5 wheels today [22:07] sigp239: you've been told about this [22:07] godling: I've been in and out reviewing other info [22:07] Action: godling sends armed monkeys to give Pig_Pen a proctological examination. [22:08] had a tri mod done to it.. but.. had 4 wheels at the back not two [22:08] was pretty big [22:08] what's exo? [22:08] yeah [22:08] acidchild: big dude riding it? [22:08] Nick change: ClaudioM -> SomethingSilly [22:08] xfce's exo? [22:08] Nick change: SomethingSilly -> ClaudioM [22:08] dependency: libexo-0.3.so.0 [22:08] provider: exo.i586 0.3.101-1.fc11 [22:09] mingdao, I do not see the solution. Would you please tell me where to find the slackware package that contains libexo? Thank you. [22:09] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:09] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:09] sigp239 and rworkman had a little tif in #xfce and came here to work on it some more [22:09] Nick change: ClaudioM -> SomethingFrilly [22:09] 07:16 < sigp239> What package can I find exo-helper in? [22:09] 07:20 < mingdao> sigp239: grep "exo-helper" /var/log/packages/* [22:10] Nick change: SomethingFrilly -> SomethingClaudy [22:10] sigp239: since you're using a Slax LiveCD, and we're using Slackware, and Slax != Slackware ... [22:10] mingdao, Must I run that command under a slackware install? [22:10] mingdao, I'd appreciate if anyone could run that command and find the answer for me. Thanks. [22:10] sigp239: you're a bit too slow on reading comprehension to be building your own distro, apparently [22:10] Nick change: SomethingClaudy -> SumfinClaudy [22:10] Nick change: diven -> kimber1911 [22:10] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:11] Nick change: SumfinClaudy -> SomethingClaudy [22:11] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:11] Well, that fixed the xdg issue, now it complains about gnome-keyring, which I installed earlier today. :P [22:11] ppl: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Jidohki?content=111712 [22:11] sigp239: again, exo is part of the xfce package [22:11] sigp239: since Slax != Slackware, you'll probably need to look for a Slax expert to help do your homework [22:11] fire|bird: yay [22:12] fire|bird: gnome-keyring is for losers [22:12] fire|bird: what are you trying to build? [22:12] NaCl: Would the gnome-keyring issue maybe be a version mismatch? [22:12] neonflux: screenlets [22:12] sigp239: really, didn't rworkman spend enough of his time furthering your understanding? [22:12] fire|bird: error message? [22:12] mingdao /help [22:12] godling: Well, I never said I was a winner. ;P [22:13] knlve: stop PMing me [22:13] Nick change: kimber1911 -> diven [22:13] knlve: if you need help, ask in channel [22:13] fire|bird: like the windows sidebar? :P [22:13] firedix (n=firedix@host16.190-230-58.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [22:13] knlve (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [22:13] Nick change: SomethingClaudy -> SumfinClaudy [22:13] mingdao: is that the same guy who kept pming you? [22:14] haha [22:14] yup [22:14] NaCl: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/6OV3Yo39.html [22:14] BX... I thought that was EOL'D. [22:14] CygnusX1 (n=CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] fire|bird: which version of screenlets are you trying to compile? [22:14] yeah, NaCl [22:14] It was, but some still use it. [22:14] just ask Quiznos [22:14] MLanden: 0.1.2 [22:14] lots of estrogen in the channel.... [22:14] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [22:14] fire|bird: install the python module? [22:14] mancha's kind of a prick, isn't he? [22:15] mancha's progestoren must not have matched [22:15] fire|bird: does screenlets complain about gnome-keyring the package or the python module? [22:15] neonflux: module [22:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:15] ah [22:15] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [22:15] bum buuumm BUUM [22:15] mingdao, other distros have a separate package for exo. For instance, Fedora 11... [22:15] NaCl: There's a python module? doh! [22:15] fire|bird: :P [22:15] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] sigp239: d00d, you're so leet and hard headed :D [22:15] Is that on SBo as well? [22:15] fire|bird: you need to install gnome-python-desktop to get the python bindings for gnome-keyring [22:16] Nick change: antiwire -> RUGP345 [22:16] now what sucka [22:16] !topic > sigp239 [22:16] mingdao: maybe mancha just decided to help the channel by removing all his estrogen [22:16] neonflux: ok, thanks. :) [22:16] fire|bird: doesn't look like it, but I am not sure [22:16] NaCl: ok, thanks. :) [22:16] Oh. [22:16] Nick change: RUGP345 -> antiwire [22:16] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [22:16] I'm out in the field starting today until friday [22:17] field? [22:17] farmer? [22:17] is it grassy? [22:17] and green? [22:17] sigp239: you should use Fedora if you like it so much. There won't be any hard feelings. I promise. [22:17] you wankers [22:17] breaking up the fallow ground antiwire? [22:17] Thanks to those who helped me. [22:18] sigp239: other distros are exactly that other distros, the slackware team had a purpose in including the libexo libraries in the xfce package [22:18] sigp239: sorry; we don't care what other distros do, nor how you are handling it for other distros. if you end up using slackware itself, feel free to come back with questions [22:18] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-48-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [22:18] antiwire: not when people are around ;/ [22:18] lol [22:18] sigp239: he's asleep ;) [22:18] We are doing a gigantic voip install this week for a client [22:18] thrice`: you killed fredoslack!!!!! [22:18] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [22:18] \o/ [22:18] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:18] meh, he's French, who cares? [22:18] ;P [22:18] antiwire: ah neat [22:18] howdy BP{k} [22:18] godling: Sauronslack? ;) oh wait . that would have been frodoslack ;) [22:19] fire|bird: howdy :) [22:20] alisonken1home: :( [22:21] knlve_ (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Now that two trolls are quiet, who can we bash on? [22:22] knlve_ (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) left ##slackware. [22:22] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:22] I've been known to be an easy target sometimes [22:23] samurai_ (n=samurai@89.29.158.244) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:24] we need a poor misguided buntu user to come in the crosshairs [22:24] I think I have resolidified by now. [22:25] I'm still waiting for a *BSD person :) [22:26] rworkman: sent it. [22:26] By the time I get screenlets going, I'll have half of gnome. :P [22:26] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [22:26] fire|bird: heavy...lol [22:27] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:28] MLanden: indeed. Before the clean install, I had gnome installed. :P [22:28] fire|bird: just install GSB. :P [22:28] NaCl: That's what I had before the clean install, it was nice, so I probably will. :P [22:28] fire|bird: aren't gnomes already half of something? [22:28] hahahaha [22:29] fire|bird: so you got like a half-gnome goin' on,eh? cool [22:29] so wont you really just end up with half of half of half? [22:29] MLanden: dang near. :P [22:29] fire|bird: I'm considering installing it myself, because Qt has some silly keyboard layout switching issue. [22:29] but 3xhalf sounds like a lot. [22:29] could be 1 and a half of...something. [22:29] NaCl: It was really nice, I did have an icon issue, but that was fixed with re-running the icon cache and then restarting. [22:31] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:32] fire|bird: ah, cool. [22:34] NaCl: It was just the desktop icons, file managers were fine, etc. I think it was probably more a fluke occurance than anything. [22:34] fire|bird: policykit angst,perhaps? [22:34] knlve___ (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) joined ##slackware. [22:35] knlve___ (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) left irc: "leaving" [22:35] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:36] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:37] GRAH POLICYKIT MAKES ME ANGRY [22:37] MLanden: could be. With gsb (well, gnome in general I should say?) you get policykit, devicekit, the whole nine yards of *kits. :P [22:37] oh yeah, and pulseaudio, I HATE THAT thing with a passion. [22:39] yeah,pulseaudio is a real POS...like plugging thousand electrical plugs into a the same socket..bound to be a burn out [22:40] PulseAudio is a friggen PAIN in the rear, it just adds a layer on top of alsa, and gets in the friggen way. [22:40] true [22:40] fire|bird: cross-platformed-ness [22:41] 9/c [22:41] bah [22:41] eh? [22:41] /c/c :P [22:41] ? [22:41] ah [22:42] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [22:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] denied :) [22:42] rworkman just silenced the channel [22:43] MLanden: For example, now, with alsa, I can have my headphones connected, and sound goes through both, with PA, I had to go into preferences each time and tell it what I wanted to use. Now, granted, I am sure I could have fixed that, but didn't delve into it much, but still, it is just an annoyance. :P [22:43] sound goes through both headphones and speakers* [22:45] true,fire|bird....KISS instead of sound going from the soundchip to an upteen pile of processes [22:46] yeah [22:46] Pulseaudio exists to make cross-platform development easier. [22:47] I think. [22:47] IIRC, there is a layer for windows on top of DirectSound [22:49] yeah, I can understand the point behind pulseaudio, I messed around with it alot when it first came out, but when I used it on gsb there, it was a pain, but as I mentioned, I didn't delve into it alot. [22:49] NaCl: I'm downloading the gsb stuff now :P [22:49] knlve__ (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) joined ##slackware. [22:49] knlve__ (n=knlve@221.193.119.19) left irc: Client Quit [22:49] fbsetbg is setting my wallpaper incorrectly. The image comes up 40cm to the left of where it should be. Any ideas? [22:49] fire|bird: Do you know if it works for Slackware64? [22:49] NaCl: They have 64bit packages, my laptop is 64bit, but I haven't tried it on there at all. [22:49] sayed: what command are you using to set it? [22:50] 40cm does seem a bit far. :P [22:50] lol [22:50] crumb (i=crumb@server1.tiltshellz.org) joined ##slackware. [22:50] fbset -f $wallpaperjpeg should work [22:51] fire|bird: you just can't stay settled :P [22:51] where can i get support for ARMedslack? [22:51] er, fbsetbg [22:51] NaCl: Have you seen any videos, etc. of gnome 3, they've actually changed the ui a bit. [22:51] Nick change: SumfinClaudy -> ClaudioM [22:51] fire|bird: no, actually. [22:51] thrice`: hahaha, I am a tinkerer, I mess with it all. :) [22:51] crumb: mm, depends, is your issue exclusive to the arm platform? :) [22:51] yes [22:51] crumb: I'd try the mailing list [22:51] i have an arm device, but i'm trying to find out if the -current port would be compatible [22:51] NaCl: Ubuntu 10.04 is going to have it available for install. :P [22:52] Is there a python version of cpan2tgz? that converts it to a slackware package? [22:52] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:53] python cpan? [22:53] what? [22:53] thrice`: If I stayed settled, life would be boring. :P [22:53] Well, godling [22:53] right now [22:53] what? [22:53] it's tar xvf pythonpackage.tar.gz [22:53] fire|bird: interesting [22:53] then run [22:53] python setup.py bdist [22:53] redtricycle: no [22:53] redtricycle: try hitting enter less :P [22:53] crumb: mailling list or talk direct to Stuart Winter can help [22:53] doesn't exist. [22:53] fire|bird: the leaping lamma or are they up to the m's ?...:P [22:53] PiterPunk: thanks [22:54] fire|bird: know if ubuntu got the boot time down to 10s? [22:54] so okay...doesnt exist [22:54] MLanden: L, It's something Lynx [22:54] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:54] crumb: you're welcome [22:54] NaCl: No, not sure, I know that's what they were shooting for though. [22:54] godling: fbsetbg -f someimage.jpg [22:54] godling: thank you as well :) [22:54] sayed: that's not working? [22:54] fire|bird: I wonder if their init system can be ported to Slack... [22:54] bjo321 (n=bryan@69.171.163.186) left ##slackware. [22:54] NaCl: I've had slack down to 16 seconds before. [22:54] sayed: are you sure the image is the same resolution as your display? [22:55] fire|bird: what did you remove? [22:55] alienBOY (n=chatzill@124.43.54.14) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Or change, rather. [22:55] godling: No, but that was never an issue before. fbsetbg usually stretched it if it had to [22:55] fire|bird: It takes 30 seconds or so to boot here [22:55] NaCl: I moved the font, icon, etc. cache out of rc.M and to rc.local, and a custom kernel. [22:56] rc.inet1 is the killer on my box; I -x it :> [22:56] Prior to those changes, boot was around 38-40 seconds. [22:56] I will have to try that, then. [22:56] sayed: try asking in #fluxbox [22:56] sayed: I use XFCE so I don't know. :/ [22:56] NaCl: the cache stuff being moved to rc.local alone was a drastic change, here anyway. [22:57] fc-cache and the gtk immodules? [22:57] godling: Thanks [22:58] NaCl: yeah, fc-cache, gtk, icon cache, and that other one, mime something. [22:58] Ok. [22:58] NaCl: Now, hald is the biggest time spender. [22:58] sayed: can you still use xsetroot? [22:58] fire|bird: hmmmm... [22:58] oh yeah, another thing was enabling compact and fastboot=1 to lilo.conf [22:59] Oh. fastboot. Of course. :P [23:00] thrice`: doesnt inet1 set up your localhost loopback? [23:01] um..mm [23:01] ifconfig still shows it :> [23:01] fire|bird: what does fastboot=1 do? [23:01] godling: Let me try [23:01] oh, coolies [23:02] so anyway, yeah..I can disable the font caching stuff? [23:02] i dont even know what those do [23:02] good night folks:) [23:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:02] night,hitest [23:03] Let's see how fast this really is... [23:03] godling: Yeah it will change the color of the background [23:03] redtricycle: you can disable the font caching on boot [23:04] <_guitarman_> hey guys... how does one have a 32 and 64 bit version of an app work safely on slackware64 13.0 (multilib)... example being this. i have jack audio compiled 64 bit and i am trying to get skype (32bit) to use jack . issue is that my jack is 64 bit. soooo - what do you do when u need a 32 bit version of an app you already have in 64 bit... do you compile it in your home dir or something or how do you cleanly get around this [23:05] _guitarman_: alienbob has compat libs on his site. [23:05] NaCl: I'm not sure exactly what it does/changes, it didn't offer a huge increase, but a slightly noticeable one. [23:06] crs_ (n=crs@host86-143-111-89.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.81.12) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:06] <_guitarman_> agentc0re: i have that covered [23:06] gosh my connection sucks tonight. :P [23:06] <_guitarman_> agentc0re: i am all geared for multilib, skype is working [23:06] fire|bird: slight indeed. [23:06] _guitarman_: perhaps putting things in /opt/32/ ? :) [23:07] <_guitarman_> thrice`: k thats a good idea i figure since opt will need to be declared to run it [23:07] NaCl: yeah, moving the stuff from rc.M to rc.local, and making rc.local run as a background process (adding a & to where it's called in rc.M) and a custom kernel really made the most difference. [23:08] sigp239 (n=sigp239@62.225.51.109) left irc: "Leaving" [23:08] I forgot the background process part before. :P [23:09] Yeah. [23:09] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [23:09] I didn't actually mess with anything in /etc/rc.d yest [23:10] I've messed with it alot trying to get a fast boot, which I certainly accomplished. :P [23:10] 16 seconds is plenty good. [23:10] I haven't put those changes in place yet with this clean install, so I'm not sure what the time is now, but it's certainly not slow, but could be quicker. [23:10] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [23:11] alienBOY_ (n=chatzill@124.43.54.14) left irc: Connection timed out [23:12] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.28.48) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:13] crs (n=crs@gentoo/user/crs) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:13] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:29] _guitarman_: no. [23:29] depends if ./configure supports it, which it wont. [23:29] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [23:29] _guitarman_: how would that be useful? you want to install it to and /usr/ and /usr/local/ and opt? ;) [23:29] it's one of those things in life that is great but sometimes you get that feeling in the back of your mind [23:29] <_guitarman_> BP{k}: I think my solution will need to be copying what it wants in /bin into /opt/32 [23:29] <_guitarman_> BP{k}: have to have a 32 bit and 64 bit version of Jack audio [23:29] <_guitarman_> I am really wishing i just went all 32 bit slackware [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] <_guitarman_> bastards at skype and virtualbox are at fault [23:29] antiwire: fugu? [23:30] sashimi [23:30] and nigiri [23:34] antiwire: cool..as long as it's good..but like everything,always good to keep a bit of optimism..:D [23:34] lol [23:34] ...I have never gotten this error in makepkg before: ERROR: Can't make output package in current directory. [23:34] ?? [23:37] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:38] fonseg (n=bnguyen@113.22.110.74) joined ##slackware. [23:38] how to view .djvu file on slack12? [23:39] fonseg: install qt4, libdjvu, and djview4 from SlackBuilds.org's 12.2 pages. [23:39] redtricycle: sounds like you're trying to drop the package into the current directory. [23:40] nod.. [23:40] is that not allowed? [23:40] correct [23:40] i did makepkg /tmp/pkgname.txz and it worked fine [23:41] andarius_ (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:41] Why the change, I wonder? [23:41] jiraia (n=Jiraia@201-88-41-79.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:42] rworkman: do i need to install djvulibre, xdg-utils which are also required by djview4 as said on slackbuilds.org ? [23:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [23:45] fonseg: yes [23:45] yes [23:45] Good timing [23:45] :) [23:48] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] rworkman, BP{k}: OMG, binary qt4 is about > 100MB. this is required to view .djvu. nightmare! [23:48] what are you talking about? [23:48] fonseg: well, there might be some smaller djvu apps. [23:48] I was thinking that djvulibre had a small reader with it [23:48] er, libdjvu [23:49] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [23:49] Hell, I don't remember the name of it. You get the point. :) [23:50] rworkman: djvulibre, i'm searching on slackbuilds ;) [23:52] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [23:53] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] Imagine a 10.2 system, original packet set...no patches/ [23:53] then imagine it STABBING YOU IN THE FACE [23:53] packet/package [23:54] that's where you were going with that, right antiwire? [23:54] exactly [23:54] I'm good. [23:55] mingdao: sorry, I didn't see your ping until now; what's up? [23:55] Action: wubbster is thinking about going bsd [23:56] rworkman: i cannot find xdg-utils for 12.2 which is said required by djvulibre. but hey, i often open files with 'xdg-open' which is available on fresh install of slackware. is it not belong to xdg-utils? [23:56] take care,folks....talk with all later [23:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-81-226.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:57] rworkman: np ... I got ahold of nachox ... thanks for replying [23:58] fonseg: yeah, it's part of xdg-utils (xdg-open is) [23:58] rworkman: reading the buffer, I hope Pat doesn't get flooded with wicd mail. I thought I wrote him before, but when php and samba updates arrived, and wicd-1.6.2.2 wasn't there, I wrote him, also. [23:58] ;) [23:58] off to paint [23:58] mingdao: no problem. Sorry - I just checked my /away log. [23:58] thanks for replying, even if late ;) [23:58] it's never late on the interwubs [23:59] Re wicd, it might be better for a small flood - sometimes floods are requisite for change. ;-) [23:59] yeah, out of self-defense ;) [23:59] as long as it's not a deluge right? [23:59] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [23:59] flood, deluge, torrent...oh my [23:59] Nick change: andarius_ -> andarius [23:59] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [23:59] rworkman: so xdg-utils is an official pkg? so some info on slackbuilds is not correct. [23:59] what's wrong with wicd? [23:59] regex error [00:00] --- Mon Oct 5 2009