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[00:51] tsccof: oh same old; On my English class work :/ [00:51] jgeboski: :/ [00:52] just one of those things you have to do to get a degree [00:52] yea :/ [00:52] are you enjoying it? [00:53] Not really but, it doesn't kill me [00:53] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] I get the job does ;) [00:53] s/does/done [00:53] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [00:54] Wulf-is-not-here (ASTRO-PUNK@unaffiliated/wirewulf) joined ##slackware. [00:54] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [00:59] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [00:59] gm152 (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:01] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:01] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] ki2azy: did i piss you off? [01:02] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:03] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:04] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] ki2azyone (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:05] Nick change: ki2azyone -> ki2azy [01:06] would you guys use another package manager on slackware, based on pkgtools? [01:06] kind of ports+portage+pkgtools [01:07] without dependency handling [01:07] with a make.conf and built in repository, so you don't need slackbuilds anymore [01:07] and compatible with each UNIX system out there [01:09] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:10] exists? 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[01:13] http://www.opendusk.com [01:13] you can get mine there [01:13] there is no helpfile or tutorial yet, though [01:13] no man page as well [01:14] that sucks, I know, I will make one and set it in the updates [01:14] you should be fine by reading the script [01:14] it's written in shell [01:14] in case you want to use it [01:14] I need a more presentable thing [01:14] in terms of user friendliness [01:15] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:16] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [01:19] the problem is that you centralize the compilation process in a generic method, but every piece of software needs a custom configuration in compilation time [01:19] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:20] ashe (~ashe@125.166.175.175) joined ##slackware. [01:21] gabriel: I don't, the software leaves that up to the user [01:21] gabriel: you may parse arguments [01:22] gabriel: and you need to know what you are building, the tool only helps you, it is not meant for doing everything for the user [01:22] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-162-72-56.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:22] ah ok, I understand [01:23] gabriel: check /etc/craft.d/make.conf [01:23] I did that [01:23] there's a default configure option there [01:23] yep [01:23] but you may parse arguments to it [01:23] craft prepare --prefix=/usr/local --sysconfdir=/etc [01:23] I'm looking the main bash script [01:24] there will be an update in the next days [01:24] Do you like slackbuilds? [01:24] that fixes a little issue related to "craft removepkg" not erasing all empty folders [01:24] yea, I like them [01:24] but I like to build things myself [01:25] and I am not always going to read the slackbuild and change it [01:25] so I built this tool [01:25] what do you think of it? [01:26] I think that is a nice idea for people that build his things and want learn how do it [01:26] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-9-154.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [01:26] gabriel: thanks! [01:27] gabriel: I am thinking about removing the repository and the automatic update feature [01:27] gabriel: so that it would be simpler [01:28] but those are good features too [01:29] In my case... I don't have time to configure the compilation process of each software that isn't in the official release... [01:29] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:29] but for people who wants learn how do it...is good [01:30] :D [01:30] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:30] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-9-154.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:30] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [01:32] kym_keive (1000@187.116.231.136) joined ##slackware. [01:32] I remember a slack-based distribution that includes a list of dependencies of each software in plain text, I don't remember the name, but if in the future you want add that feature, you can use it [01:32] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-124-202.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [01:33] hello, anyone there could help me? need a clarification on ffmpeg... [01:34] gabriel: that would be very useful, thanks for the idea [01:34] must go now [01:34] me too [01:34] bye everyone! 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[01:58] latemus (~m@72.8.65.180) left irc: Read error: No route to host [01:58] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:02] ...so to clear my /tmp folder at reboot, I could edit my rc.0 file to add something like rm -rf &1>2> /dev/null. should that be ok? [02:02] better do it in rc.local_shutdown [02:02] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:03] you could also use a tmpfs for /tmp [02:03] you could also edit the selective /tmp/ purging that's already present in rc.S & rc.M [02:04] ok [02:04] where were you guys about 3 hours ago. Thanks! [02:04] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-125-82.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:07] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-125-203.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [02:08] watching videos :) [02:10] is there anything in /tmp that should not be removed at reboot? just to be certain. [02:11] SBo dumps resulting packages there [02:11] thats true... I usually move them after a build. but will need to take extra care. anything else [02:12] nothing by default as far as i know. its called tmp for a reason [02:12] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-125-203.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:13] thanks again ;) [02:14] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-254-206.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [02:16] officerbob (~officerbo@203-59-73-131.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[08:22] Douay_ahh (~augur_oka@ppp-70-133-217-48.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Axius (~fd@92.85.216.223) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:27] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [08:27] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:27] SirIdiot (~slobad23@95.144.106.205) joined ##slackware. [08:27] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:29] mrspwnage (~mrspwn@97-127-216-189.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [08:29] Hi there! Just a little question... I have changed the profile in konsole so that the shell prompt looks right after it changed from my username to "bash-4.1". When I logged back in it had changed back to that bash prompt again. I looked for a ~/.bashrc file but couldn't find it. Where do I go to edit the file that is causing this repeating change to my prompt? [08:29] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. 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[08:42] create a ~/.bashrc file [08:44] i've found a funny bug in the slackware 13.1 installer: if you quit the "setup"at the "package series selection" screen and the re-run it, GNOME will be in the list (even enabled by default!) :) [08:47] http://xkcd.com/353/ [08:48] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-164-152.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [08:48] CtrlAltCa: thats an easter egg :p [08:48] haha [08:50] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [08:51] now i get it.. it happens if you don't specify the source media, and jump directly to the "package series selection" screen; it didn't load the package list from the disc, so.. i guess that's a default list belonging to a previous slackware version? [08:51] KaMii, will "cat /etc/profile > ~/.bashrc" work? [08:52] CtrlAltCa: dunno, when I didnt specifiy the package source from the usb install it only showed the <> series to me [08:53] SirIdiot: are we related? [08:53] clearly [08:53] :P [08:53] sunzu (~sunzu@ip-109-85-113-154.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [08:54] dustybin, Is this because I'm making stupid comments? I think I am related to a lot of people in my town... population 20,000... 2 surnames :-S [08:54] SirIdiot: nope, i was being silly :P [08:55] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-221-65.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [08:56] The good thing about this channel is that it is filled with people who know their stuff and never make me feel like a plank when I ask a stupid question. At least, a question that makes it obvious to all I'm really not very well versed in linux. [08:57] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [08:57] oh there are nearly alwas things U don't know or U forget xD [08:58] ok sounzou [08:58] mrspwnage (~mrspwn@97-127-216-189.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:59] damn i forgot the y's [08:59] is it just me, or did yahoo replace google as the default search engine in firefox 3.6.8 [08:59] ¿ [08:59] My konsole is working like I want it too! Woop Woop! [08:59] mag0o: try #ubuntu [09:00] they were about to replace it, but the didnt in the end [09:00] why would i try #ubuntu? [09:00] cause they're the only distribution they were about to replace the search engine, but the didnt in the end [09:01] you're obviously running an ubuntu development snapshot [09:01] slackpkg upgrade firefox on 13.0, thanks [09:02] yeah that was too silly even for me [09:02] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:03] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [09:05] weird, after closing down firefox then opening back up, it's got google as default [09:05] good enough for me [09:08] I have just installed netbeans and can launch it by running netbeans from K launcher, but it doesn't actually appear as it's own program that I can find by just typing in something like netb... Does it take a logout/login to get it to appear sometimes? [09:09] where is the executable installed? [09:10] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:11] /usr/bin/netbeans [09:11] is that in your path ? [09:12] /usr/bin is yes [09:12] or is there a path specific to K launcher? [09:12] run it from a terminal emulator [09:12] SirIdiot: did you install from slackbuilds.org? [09:12] Roin, yes I did [09:12] SirIdiot: if so it is in /opt/netbeans [09:13] I installed from slackbuilds and "which netbeans" from konsole gives me "/usr/bin/netbeans" [09:13] a bit weird I know, but eclipse, netbeans and openoffice all goto /opt/ all together with their config files, shared libaries etc [09:13] SirIdiot: symlink? [09:13] touche :-) [09:13] Roin: if it is a symlink, he can access it through /usr/bin just fine. that's what symlinks are for. [09:14] it's being able to add it to the list of applications in KickOff Application Launcher that I was after. I am 90% happy that it can just be run from a terminal or from typing int he full name.. but who wants 90% :-P [09:15] adaptr: uhm sure sorry ._. [09:15] good thing this isn't -offtopic [09:15] and the reason you never asked the actual question ? [09:16] maybe my question would have made more sense if I have quoted the "netbeans" in my original question (and perhaps worded it a little better too). Forgive my haste, just keen to get on with some work now :-D [09:20] libcurl not found at l-curl or libcurl headers not found [09:20] im trying to compile virtualbox-ose from sbo [09:20] but i have both x86_64 and compat-32 of curl installed [09:25] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [09:26] josemanuel (~josemanue@128.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [09:26] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:26] I have recently upgraded xorg on a 32bit slackware 13.1 and now X crashes when I'm trying to run Urban Terror [09:26] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:26] is there anything I can do to fix it? [09:27] play tremulous instead [09:27] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-86-89.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:28] at least you didn't say "buy windows and play there" [09:28] lol [09:28] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [09:28] i tried UT once, i died soo many times they kicked me [09:28] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-221-65.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:29] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: Client Quit [09:31] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-222-179.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [09:32] xcable (xcable@unaffiliated/el33t) joined ##slackware. [09:32] w00t, I fixed my Urban Terror issue [09:32] did you shoot it? :P [09:33] I reinstalled the nvidia-driver package, it apparently replaces some xorg files IIRC [09:34] yup [09:34] libglx.so being one of them. [09:35] now if I only could finally understand these lartc docs so I could tune the FPS traffic a bit [09:36] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [09:36] i dont get why libcurl is not being found when I clearly have the x86_64 and compat32 versions installed [09:37] what, where, when, how, by whom/what? [09:37] virtualbox-ose [09:37] libcurl not found at l-curl or libcurl headers not found [09:37] when configuring it? [09:37] yes [09:38] look for a log file in the source folder [09:38] chipster_ (~chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [09:39] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:39] size of array __curl_rule_01_ is negative [09:39] same for rule 02 [09:39] chipster_ (~chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Client Quit [09:39] what does that mean? [09:40] it's a gcc warning/error issued when trying to compile bogus code, which is probably done by the configure script [09:41] so how do I get past it? [09:41] it's probably safe to skip the test/force it/patch it because it only tests for libcurl and doesn't try to get perfect code (in this test) [09:41] depends [09:42] Axius (~fd@92.85.216.223) joined ##slackware. [09:42] can I just tell it to skip curl? [09:42] ph8 (ph8@unaffiliated/ph8) joined ##slackware. [09:42] hi all, i'm fairly new to slackware - just trying to get a copy - do i have to pay for a download? [09:43] ph8: no [09:43] ph8: no [09:43] i'm struggling to find a link from slackware.org [09:43] ph8, go to slackware.com [09:43] they are all torrents now [09:43] that's ideal [09:43] grab a torrent [09:43] so i'm on slackware.com [09:43] where from there? [09:43] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [09:43] oh get slack! [09:43] i didn't see that [09:43] lol [09:43] was looking for 'download' [09:44] :-) [09:44] ^^ [09:44] KaMii: well, no [09:44] so I have to bypass all tests [09:44] there might be a configure switch to force libcurl [09:44] (without testing for it) [09:44] but I'm wondering why noone else has that [09:45] hmm [09:45] hrm, has anyone else had this ussue trying to build vbox on multilib? [09:45] or it could actually be that it's not taking the good libcurl (the bad bitness) [09:45] maybe my curl is corrupt? [09:45] but I don't use vbox so I can't say [09:45] KaMii: http://www.slackbuilds.org/faq/#multilib [09:45] SirIdiot (~slobad23@95.144.106.205) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:46] XGizzmo: i already have multilib installed [09:46] im not talking about that, we are talking about virtualbox-ose [09:46] read the damn link [09:46] :-) [09:47] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:48] that didnt help [09:50] How are you invoking the build script? [09:50] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] well, Im logged in as root [09:51] i changed the termial to 32 compat [09:51] and I ./virtualbox-ose.Slackbuild [09:54] you want a 32bit binary of vbox? [09:54] you cant build vbox in 64 [09:54] Wrong. [09:54] thats what I read on their website [09:55] and on the slackbuild [09:55] you need to use ARCH=x86_64 virtualbox-ose.Slackbuild I think [09:55] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:56] that doesnt work either [09:56] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:58] I've used vbox on slackware64 before [09:59] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.87.246) joined ##slackware. [09:59] It runs just fine on slackware64, you just have to have multilib to compile it. [10:00] isBEKaml (keml@122.174.87.246) left ##slackware. [10:00] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:02] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:02] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [10:05] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:05] slajk (~slajk@188.124.206.92) joined ##slackware. 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[10:23] man visudo has some vague hints, sounds greek to me [10:23] kickback: symlink /bin/vi to /usr/bin/vim [10:23] cheap move :) [10:23] MadneX (~Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Quit: Sair [10:23] kickback: usually, when you install vim, if there is no 'vi', it will create a symlink from vim to vi, what sinuhe said will have exactly the same effect [10:23] sinuhe: great :D [10:23] thanks [10:24] problem is that i removed vi after installation [10:24] maybe that couased the problem [10:24] anyway, thanks. i'll use a symlink [10:24] what was the reason to remove it after installation? [10:24] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.3.181.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:25] tank-man: just didnt want two applications that basically do the same thing [10:25] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:26] :) you mean like kate, kwrite, kedit (all text editors in kde) [10:26] joe, jove, emacs... [10:26] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [10:26] cat, ed, and '>>' too ;-) [10:26] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:26] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [10:27] tank-man: yeah, but atleast they have slightly ifferent way to do things and somewhat different features [10:27] oh, nano too [10:28] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [10:28] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-214-155.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] notepad too [10:28] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] .. /o\ [10:28] pico [10:29] leafpad, inkpad, gedit [10:29] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:47] try, but for me openoffice.org is much better than Koffice [10:47] hrm... i think flightgear is screwed up, it says my 747-300 is going mach 1.05 [10:47] err 737-300 [10:48] All other Distros I have used come with openoffice installed by default. Does anyone know the reason behind it not being on the Slackware DVD? [10:48] koffice is able to open docs files [10:48] at least if you don't use a version from the last century [10:49] SirIdiot: you can install it from a slackbuild, i think it uses a .deb though [10:49] I am using koffice that comes bundled with slackware 13.1 - it doesn't appear to be able to open docx files. [10:49] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] I am installing openoffice from slackbuilds now. it uses the rpm to build. [10:50] SirIdiot: if your brave, compile go-openoffice, apparently that one takes hours to compile [10:51] it should definitely be able to open them, I'm suspecting the problem is somewhere else [10:51] pebkac? [10:51] SirIdiot: it may fit on the Slackware DVD but openoffice.org is too big to fit on the CDROM set. Plus itis a bitch to compile [10:51] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:53] alienBOB, Ah ok, well it's not a huge problem having to install it. I can't ask why every piece of software I want isn't on the DVD I guess. Shame Koffice wouldn't open it for me - not the docX anyway. No matter. All thsi slackbuilds experience issn't a bad thing [10:53] Leo1111 (~matrix@static-200-105-189-86.acelerate.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@static-200-105-*.acelerate.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:53] Leo1111 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: matrix, you can keep your attempted insults (U fagest dont help ME!) - they suck anyway. [10:54] lol [10:54] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:54] SirIdiot: kOffice is still relative crappy imho ._. [10:54] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-124-249.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:54] Roin: Well, compared to OO it is, but.... [10:55] .... guess I'm just repeating what you said tho .... [10:55] koffice is awful [10:56] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-45-33-174.ip100.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [10:56] which is unfortunate, because a lighter-weight, simple office suite would be so nice [10:56] well, I have to admit I don't use it much anymore. [10:56] Yeah, kinda sad since iirc it has nokia or some other big company behind it? [10:56] abiword + gnumeric FTW [10:56] so open office gets downloaded from slackbuilds by... everyone? :-D [10:56] does abiword open docX? [10:56] newest does [10:56] no idea [10:56] 2.8.x [10:57] sounds like I should pack KDE up and just use xfce... it has all the tools :-D [10:57] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-86-89.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:57] :( [10:58] getting rid of KDE was one of the wiser things i did [10:58] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-86-89.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Action: Roin is very happy with KDE [10:58] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [10:58] okular is a very fine app. [10:58] kickback: Are you using xfce? [10:59] usr13: nah, only fluxbox [10:59] aaahhhh [10:59] jg71: okular is the only app i miss, yeah [10:59] I would go with a really minimalist approach with x and a little WM but I want to be able to just have a projector work when I connect it and multiple screens just work... tinkering with some things is ok, but that... not for me! KDE can do it :-) [11:00] using xrandr isnt very difficult though :x [11:00] SirIdiot: why not just get the abiword slackbuild? [11:00] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] multiple desktops in KDE is a pain too. I thought it would elp seeing as my KDE bar at the bottom gets full very quickly... but they span across all desktops! Grr [11:00] KDE is just a little too feature rich for me to leave it behind ... [11:00] ditto, i'm hooked [11:01] Roin: often it's not xrandr thats prevent folks from fully using their hardware ... look at intel and their crappy driver foo. it's via all over again (for me, hence my bitching) [11:01] SirIdiot, this is changeable. [11:01] I have a pretty fast PC and it handles KDE just fine. [11:01] *preventing [11:01] my pc handles kde great as well, but i was having an itch for some while [11:01] jg71: Well never had an issue with my Pineview, are most intel drivers->cards relations so bad? [11:02] I always thought Intel would work best since they provide open source drivers for like 90% of their hardware :( [11:02] SirIdiot, Enter panel setup mode, right click on the task plasmoid on the panel and select properties -> show windows only from the current desktop. [11:02] intel cards have worked the best for me so far [11:03] ok no issue is a lie too, if I make my Monitor as "right to" my netbook screen I cant play any movies [11:03] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:03] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:03] stunix (1000@85.19.141.162) joined ##slackware. [11:03] works fine when I clone the the output to the monitor but not if I use the monitor as an extended desktop [11:03] slava_dp, Sorry, panel setup mode?? [11:03] SirIdiot, the cashew. [11:03] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Roin: never tried using the 'right to' one. [11:04] its a kidney, not a cashew :/ [11:04] kickback: well you know so you can drag and drop things from your screen over to the monitor, like your desktop extends to the right or left (w/e you set it to) [11:05] Roin: yes, i understand that [11:05] ok [11:05] it's a yin (missing a yang) [11:06] slava_dp, looking for task plasmoid! I realy struggle finding my way round KDE configuration. It's not as simple as any other OS DE that I have used [11:06] SirIdiot, ok, let's do it step by step. Click on the cashew on the plasma panel, you'll have panel configuration slide up. [11:07] yep [11:07] sad to say [IMO] but intell has won the CPU contest [11:08] Roin: recent issue, some cards just work, some just wont. it's hit or miss (and bitch) [11:08] Roin: do you get a black/green screen/box when trying to play video on the 2nd head? [11:08] Then right click on the panel where you have your windows enumerated (It's called something like task manager, I dunno), select settings [11:08] noob morning report. attempted to clear /tmp on reboot. edited rc.S # Cleanup section by changing rm -f ... to rm -fr ... Restarted. Booted to greeter, but mouse and kb not working. Reinstalled base system. still no mouse or kb. used Slackware DVD to boot system. mounted sda1 and changed rc.S back to rm -f, changed /tmp/Xauth* to /tmp/*. Rebooted still no mouse or kb. Reinstalled base and kde. Rebooted... Back in business. [11:09] Slaxy: thats a nice exercise [11:09] I don't have it - it pops up an empty bar which I can't cycle through, and above it it has the height and screen edge. [11:09] scared the crap out of me tho [11:09] meatpuppet: the video player just remains black, sound works [11:09] Slaxy: Probably best to let /tmp take care of itself [11:10] meatpuppet: It already happens when I launch it, no matter where the play is atm (and of course it happens with all possible media players, even with mplayer from terminal) [11:10] SirIdiot, do you have firefox open? or anything? right-click on it's symbol on the panel, it will pop up the menu for panel settings. [11:10] agreed. Leassoned learned. There are a few better ways to go about it. [11:10] +er [11:10] Slaxy: I suppose it is not as unimportant as one might think. [11:10] roin: it is probably your card that cannot do proper "xv" on two heads at the same time, if you try playing with 'mplayer -vo x11' it may well work (but in software..) [11:10] Slaxy: If you use Firefox, you can delete temporary internet files from there. [11:11] man, slackware takes years to start up. [11:11] meatpuppet: ah, so software means it will only use CPU right?, will remember and try that sometime thank you :D [11:11] slava_dp, check you out y'a genius :-D [11:11] i'm going to learn bash so that i can write my own init script [11:11] usr13: the biggest problem was the # Cleanup section clears more than /tmp when I added the rm -fr, i started removing directories all over the place. Next time I need to target /tmp only [11:11] SirIdiot, so you finally found the checkbox? [11:11] roin: yeah, it will not use the 'fast' xv talk directly to videoram thing, everything is done via sofware [11:11] meatpuppet: what irritated me is that it works with clone output, but if its just the card not having the functionality I cant do much about it anyways ._. [11:12] Slaxy: O [11:13] Roin: using 'mplayer -vo help' and have a try of the different video drivers [11:13] Slaxy: Well if you did rm -fr /tmp it shouldn't have deleted anything but /tmp [11:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [11:13] meatpuppet: ok will do thank you very much [11:14] Action: thrice` guesses bad perms on /tmp [11:14] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:14] it needs to be 1777 [11:15] thrice`: as opposed to ? 0777 ? [11:16] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:16] as opposed to. [11:16] usr13: the section deletes more than stuff in /tmp I should have added another section with just /tmp [11:16] did you delete it, and try to mkdir it again ? [11:17] that would make the perms wonky [11:17] ouch, why are you messing with /tmp? [11:17] Action: XGizzmo stabs nachox. [11:18] i might be bleeding now but i still wonder why he mesed with /tmp :P [11:18] nachox: I think the idea was to clean /tmp on reboot. [11:19] nachox: He " edited rc.S # Cleanup section by changing rm -f ... to rm -fr ... Restarted" [11:19] roin: np, x11 should work fine for non-high def. playback on a reasonable system. the Intel cards only have one real head, thats why it works in clone and not on expansion (this would require two heads..). you may be able to change the primary screen so your output will be working with video playback in hardware.. other than that you are pretty much doomed to get a new card.. nvidia :) [11:19] if you want a clean tmp every time you start the computer just make a tmpfs out of /tmp [11:20] its a much better plan imho] [11:20] meatpuppet: it is just a small netbook, so I cant play high res vids anyway ^^ [11:21] nachox: ... and not even sure what that would do... [11:21] heres the section I modified in rc.S http://pastebin.com/XbMQaFdm but I changed rm -f to rm -fr so everything in those dirs got wiped [11:21] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:21] deathof1 (~nick@c-71-61-142-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] usr13, it would make /tmp a ram backed system which means it would be clean at reboot. /tmp is meant to contain small files anyway so its no big problem there specially when you have enough swap space. if your application is creating big tmp files it should put them in /var/tmp instead [11:23] thats what you get for following alphageek's advices [11:23] i specifically told you to a) use tmpfs b) an rc.local_shutdown [11:23] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:23] sahko: i wasn't going to say anything, but YEA! another leassoned learned ;) [11:24] heh :p [11:25] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:25] my next question is how do I change the frequency scaling for my cpu's. now it is either 525mhz (min) or 2100mhz (max) how do I set up a setting in the middle? [11:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:26] Slaxy: You are running a Dual Core processor? [11:26] yes [11:27] pete` (~user@034.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:27] i think kde has a tool to contol that [11:27] Slaxy: It's not just multi-threaded but Dual Core. Right? [11:28] usr13: dual core. yes [11:28] Slaxy, you can try powernowd, it worked very well for me on slack 12.2. now I just use the powersave governor which seems to do the job automatically. [11:28] nachox: powerdevel in kde seems to be able to select scaling or no scaling, but cant adjust the steps [11:29] yeah, I use powerdevil. [11:29] slava_dp: can powernowd set additional steps? [11:29] if it doesn't work well, try powernowd, it set 5 or 6 steps for my cpu. [11:30] slava_dp: ill give it a shot, and submit my report! bbl [11:30] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-126-207.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:33] v4nelle (~van@79.107.220.0) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:34] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:35] I have a somewhat odd error. Whenever I put this computer to sleep/suspend it works flawless it seems. goes to "suspend to ram" in less than a second and wake up immediatly when I want to. The problem is that no filebrowser (thunar, dolphin, pcmanfm etc.) want to work after Ive suspended the computer. Midnight commander still works and every other application. Restart is the only solution. Very odd imo [11:35] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-126-207.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:35] slava_dp: I assume I'll need to do a reboot after installing powernowd? [11:36] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-176-141.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:36] BenLang (~ben@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] hey guys. I built this machine for my handicapped brother. I am doing a good job customizing it for him to use, but i'm running into a proble [11:37] I want him to be able to insert his old windows 98 games and be able to play them right off the disk like on Windows. Wine sort of works, hal/udev mount the cd at /media/cdname [11:38] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [11:38] but he can't just click an icon, you know? I want him to just click an icon and start the game, also, some of the games there are 5 or 6 .exes and only one of them will work. [11:38] I think that's a pretty rough request but i'll throw it out there for you guys, Thanks a ton, i got some help yesterday with having cds show up on the desktop ;) [11:38] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:39] wine should be able to open exe's out of the box. [11:39] but I doubt autorun will, well, run [11:40] Adrien: yeah that's what i'm looking for. [11:40] autorun won't run. [11:40] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [11:40] BenLang: you may want to look into one of the frontends of wine [11:41] ok like PlayonLinux/ [11:41] thanks [11:43] sunzu (~sunzu@ip-109-85-113-154.web.vodafone.de) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [11:44] thanks community [11:44] BenLang (~ben@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:46] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-166-185.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:46] all he needed to do was write some scripts and convert them to .desktop files [11:47] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:47] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-214-155.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:47] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:50] Mowah (~Mowah@c-4080e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:52] pete` (~user@034.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[12:55] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [12:56] does slackware use udev by default? [12:56] its the kernel [12:57] and yes, it do and theres nothing you can do about it [12:57] kickback, yes it does. [12:57] ok [12:57] i've even tried garlic to get rid of it [12:57] nothing works [12:57] i think i'm confused here [12:57] thats ok [12:57] Skywise: ? [12:57] skywise: isnt udev supposed to be good? [12:58] what it does is create devices according to signals from the kernel if it wants too [12:58] no [12:58] it sucks, but its easier then what was before when it works [12:58] when it doesn't work, you need to do a phd thesis to figure out what the device needs [12:58] because i guess i'm loading some weird drivers at bootup which shouldnt really be loading [12:59] kickback, udev is a nice improvement over predecessor devfs (imho). also it is nice that it runs 100% in userland versus kernelland [12:59] And better than HAL [12:59] i like devfs, mknod was cake [12:59] since udev will also take over HAL's functionality [12:59] oh i'm sure before long udev won't need us either [12:59] so does slackware use both udev and hal, right? [12:59] yar [13:00] iirc KDE still needs HAL [13:00] Axius (~fd@92.84.31.251) joined ##slackware. [13:00] i have no kde but hal is still pissing in my system :/ [13:00] why is that? ._. [13:01] dunno [13:01] xfce and kde both need hal for device interaction [13:01] heh i dont have xfce either [13:01] as does x.org in 13.1 [13:02] because i think the 50 MB of ram my pc consumes at startup is too much, thats why i think some useless drivers are being loaded [13:02] I dont think so ._. [13:03] so blacklist them [13:03] I'm not sure what you mean by drivers . do you mean services? [13:03] that would make more sense [13:03] i mean device drivers [13:03] are you on the huge, or generic kernel? [13:03] huge [13:03] i guess thats the problem :P [13:03] well, no shit? :p [13:04] ¿ [13:04] i thought 'huge' just means more device drivers, and generic is for older systems or something [13:04] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] then you didn't look too hard :> [13:04] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:04] kickback, device drivers in linux are kernel modules [13:05] ah yes, thats what i meant [13:05] however, when it comes to usb devices and udev thats a whole nuther thing [13:06] i need to create an initrd for the generic kernel first, right? [13:06] might be a good idea to compile your own kernel to get maximum performance and slim it down to bare minimum [13:07] kickback, yes; the /boot/README.initrd is quite short and hand-holding [13:07] the only problem with such a custom kernel is changes you make later on [13:07] but i wouldn't sweat it [13:08] not everything can be loaded as a module [13:08] linXea: for a lot of people that isnt worth doing. [13:08] where is an appropriate place to startup powernowd at boot. I placed it in rc.local, and I see it in top, but it doesnt seem to be taking affect until i kill the first one and call it again. [13:08] i should suggest blacklisting the unneeded kernel modules. oh wait, i did. [13:08] thrice`: thanks. never knew that file existed :O [13:08] very true spook [13:09] mancha, assuming things in the huge kernel were modules, that might work :p [13:09] initrd + generic, as pat suggests, is enough for most. [13:09] a custom kernel used to be more important because kernel size was a big limitation [13:09] Skywise: when was this? [13:09] jaminja_ (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:09] like the other day [13:09] when? [13:10] lemme check my calendar, i'm sure i wrote it down [13:10] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:10] yes, my kernel has jumped from 1.9mb about 3 years ago to 2.4mb today. [13:10] so you can't even give a rough estimation? thats what i thought. [13:10] lol [13:10] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:10] thank god for storage bumps, or I couldn't cope [13:10] yea, but it depends a lot on your hardware also. I reduce my ram-usage with 50% using custom kernel. [13:10] well thats a resounding rebuttal [13:10] Skywise: please don't make shit up. [13:10] lol [13:11] google it yourself if you really care [13:11] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [13:11] linXea: an idle system will still be using a lot of ram. [13:11] when he had to fit it on a floppy [13:11] 2.6, as far as i know, never was designed to fit on a floppy [13:11] yeah, thats it [13:12] spook, not really... [13:12] or at least any hope of doing so was abandoned a loooong time ago [13:12] Well according to pat it doesnt fit on a floppy ._. [13:13] the linux kernel is totally bloated though there isn't really a solution to this. how do you spell monolithic? [13:14] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:14] damn, there's already a file called initrd.gz in my /boot [13:14] linXea: from what i've observed/learnt, it doesn't waste ram. so ram usage is not a useful/accurate metric for efficientcy. more useful is know what the ram is being used for. you also have to factor in the size of swap and how fast things can be swapped in and out of ram. [13:14] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:16] last year in linuxcon linus said the kernel is bloated and "our icache footprint is huge" he further said he wished he could say they had a plan to deal with it but they didn't [13:16] Booting an x86 kernel is a tricky task because of the limited amount of available memory. The Linux kernel tries to maximize usage of the low 640 kilobytes by moving itself around several times. [13:17] deathof1 (~nick@c-71-61-142-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:17] kickback, if you're changing kernel you need to create another initrd.gz [13:18] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [13:19] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [13:19] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:20] linXea: that includes shifting from huge to generic of the same kernel version? [13:20] that I am not sure of... Ive never used the huge.s ... [13:21] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [13:21] ah hell, i'll just reboot to check :) [13:21] kickback (~Unknown@122.176.246.116) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:23] w00t w00t, Maverick Meerkat is beta [13:24] Ubuntu without synaptic.. right ? [13:25] kickback (~Unknown@122.176.246.116) joined ##slackware. [13:25] ok so i'll have to create an initrd now [13:25] what fs ? [13:25] ext3 ? [13:26] dunno if that was scrapped [13:26] for ext3 just - mkinitrd -c -k *kernelname/version* -m mbcache:jbd:ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/sda* [13:26] linXea: thanks [13:27] I read that they would scrap synaptic from 10.10 or possibly from 11.04 ... [13:27] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) joined ##slackware. [13:29] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [13:31] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:32] is there some command to check what filesystem a specific partition is using? [13:32] mount(8) for one. [13:32] read /etc/fstab, for another [13:33] you can automount the partition if you don't already know [13:33] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Skywise: yeah, but i just want to know what fs the partition uses [13:33] then mount is the answer [13:34] "an answer" [13:34] rob0: i want to edit the fstab to make a correction, so thats the problem [13:34] no, you can't rely on fstab [13:34] it can be wrong or out of date [13:35] and unless its your root partition , you might notice until you run out of space or something [13:35] Skywise: exactly. i'm relying on mount so that i can correct the fstab :) [13:35] linXea: ot sh script [13:35] brb [13:36] kickback (~Unknown@122.176.246.116) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:36] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:37] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:39] qdb (~dinar@78.138.176.205) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Genk1 (~Am1ne@41.137.56.16) joined ##slackware. [13:39] hello [13:39] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:40] is there a tutorial that shows how to create a slackware derived distribution ? [13:40] thats not a common activity [13:40] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:40] but just to clarify, a distribution is simply a kernel with a set of packages [13:41] I want this to have fun nothing else ! [13:41] + boot scripts + package manager... [13:41] i can't see the fun in making another distro [13:41] kickback (~Unknown@122.176.246.116) joined ##slackware. [13:41] holy shit this was scary [13:41] The question indicates that you're a long way from being able to do it. :) [13:41] lol [13:41] i was trying to be nice about that [13:42] Genk1 not that i am aware of, but it has been done...i don't know if thye've made public documents explaining how [13:42] mancha, thank you ! this is an answer :) [13:42] Genk1, one project which is very nicely documented is LFS though [13:42] rob0, can you say something important ? [13:42] What you do is quite "simply" learn how Slackware was built, and rebuild it as you like. [13:42] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-search-in-files-text-that-is-one-byte-encoding-enc-thats-not-unicode-830104/ [13:42] i generated the initrd and tried to boot into the generic kernel, but it says "unable to mount /dev/sda2 on /mnt, device doesn't exist" "/ [13:42] qdb (dinar@78.138.176.205) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [13:42] Genk1: excuse me? [13:43] mancha, LFS is a distro from scratch.. I just want a derived one from slackware [13:43] Genk1: I *do* know how to build a Linux distro. I know that it's not a trivial weekend task. [13:44] rob0, maybe for you ! [13:44] Genk1: You want to know how to make a derrived/clone of slackware from the ground up? [13:44] Genk1: You will have to understand a bit of everything to be able to do it, and some idiot who comes into an IRC channel thinking it's going to be simple will fail. [13:44] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:45] BP{k}, that's it ! [13:45] Genk1: give up already, you're not ready for it. (Based on the simple principle "if you have to ask, you aren't") [13:45] rob0, the real idiot is who judge others to be ! [13:46] yay! flame war! :D [13:46] Genk1: no, that's called experience. [13:46] too many people have confused open source with everyone being a coder [13:47] the files are free, but you gotta pay for the understanding [13:48] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:48] sfergut (~fhgfhg@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [13:49] hi .. how can i list the exact alsa sound /dev files that udev is using ? [13:49] i have one tv tunner capture card and one audio playback card [13:49] i want to tell to vlc to use the tv tunner capture audio card which i dont know what /dev is [13:49] Skywise, it's a fastidious work nothing else ! it doesn't need all this intelligence (using quantum mechanics to solve problems ) [13:51] I think it's all about fixing compilations bugs [13:51] cat /proc/asound/devices or ls -al /dev/snd/* does not help much [13:51] this is the hard work in rolling a Linux distro [13:51] you sure /dev/audio doesn't give you joy? [13:53] Genk1, you'd be surprised, the code is combed over and reviewed so often trivial bugs are hard to discover [13:53] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-128.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [13:54] mancha, i got 2 there maybe they will work ... is there a way to find out the exact /dev audio udev is using ? aplay -L does not show .. how i am supposed to know about /dev/audio ? [13:54] most of the bugs you hear about really come from implementation issues [13:54] SirIdiot (~slobad23@95.144.106.205) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:55] Skywise, knopix is there then ! an ldd is enough to find the libs versions ! [13:55] ... [13:55] the logic is sound, but the could be vulnerable to an exploit simply by not scrubbing its input [13:55] well, try it and see [13:55] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [13:55] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-250.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:55] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Skywise, LFS is already there ! [13:56] thats not how to make a distro [13:56] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [13:56] newslacker (~root@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] thats how to build a machine on your own [13:56] mancha, it says VLC is unable to open the MRL 'alsa:///dev/audio1'. Check the log for details. [13:56] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.63.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:56] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [13:57] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) joined ##slackware. [13:57] main input error: open of `alsa:///dev/audio1' failed: (null) [13:57] Skywise, as I told you it's fastidious nothing else ! [13:58] it took time this is the problem ! [13:58] Axius (~fd@92.84.31.251) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:58] if you say so, but you should look into what fastidious means [13:59] Skaperen, I mean boring ! [13:59] tedious [14:00] alsamixer -c 0 and alsamixer -c 1 works fine [14:00] fastidious means painstaking, detail oriented, crititcal or demanding [14:01] Skywise, ok I am sorry I confused it with the french word : Fastidieux [14:01] lol [14:02] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [14:02] even if it was simple conceptually, its alot more difficult then even a single program and thats hard enough [14:03] Skywise, but it's still possible :) [14:03] anything is possible, much less is probable [14:04] indeed ! [14:04] sfergut, can you explain the original problem, what is that alsa url-looking thing? [14:04] newslacker (root@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [14:05] i want to put the alsa tv tunner playback device in vlc so i can hear sound [14:05] ok. one sec. [14:07] you will probably want to specify the alsa hw device name [14:07] kickback (~Unknown@122.176.246.116) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:07] it works with hw:1,0 [14:07] like hw0,0 for device 0, subdevice 0 [14:08] ok then, so device 1, subdeviec 0, why are you fussing with it? [14:08] but why /dev/audio1 does not work .. i guess vlc likes only hw entries [14:09] thanks i sorted out [14:10] cool. [14:12] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] jg71 (edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left ##slackware. [14:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:14] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Nick change: Roin -> team_handball|Ro [14:20] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:22] sfergut (fhgfhg@unaffiliated/alvan) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:26] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: Did you cut the PoWaH bitch ? 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[14:50] Linus Torvalds is a semi-mongoloid Finn who got his Communism from his father and through their neighbor Russia. The GPL is Communist and the BSD license is liberatarian. Communism cannot possibly work that is why linux is a pile of insecure crap [14:50] Linux is retardos [14:50] BSD-Ereet (BSD-Ereet@cpe-24-164-171-71.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:50] wow [14:50] heh [14:51] noone wanted to play today :) [14:51] team_handball|Ro (~florian@p5B2BC62E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:53] Douay_ahh (~augur_oka@ppp-70-133-217-48.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:54] Douay_ahh (~augur_oka@ppp-70-133-217-48.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] Can't argue with people who obviously don't know the meaning of communism or that throughout msot of their history the Finns have bitterly fought the Russians :) [14:58] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-250.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: quitter [14:58] commie. [15:00] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-236-173.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Gimped [15:01] hi, does anyone else here have a dell studio 1558 laptop? if so, do your lcd backlight controls work [15:05] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[15:34] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:36] silo (~silo@212.183.140.4) joined ##slackware. [15:37] nepomukservices anyone know what service or app that is ? [15:38] nepomuk is used by kde to index files and other silly things [15:38] ok i started a kde app up earlier, wondered why it was there [15:39] shadowkllr (~shadowkll@c-76-117-250-121.hsd1.de.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] you're in a non-kde environment, probably? [15:39] iyep [15:39] ah, ok - it can probably be killed [15:39] pkill nepo might take care of it :> [15:40] thanks ill do that, prolly just a little paranoid lol [15:40] it's totally kde specific, nothing else needs it on a slack desktop [15:40] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:40] ive installed kde but dont use it very often [15:41] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:42] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.243.210) joined ##slackware. [15:43] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-225.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:44] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:45] rococo (~rco@S0106001d7e440c0f.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:46] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:46] EvanR (~evan@ip70-180-53-21.br.br.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:48] nachox: BSD-Ereet seems to be the latest morph of that "puffy" troll. [15:48] i see [15:49] guys, if im connected it means that i'm around in some form, i would appreciate that you let me know about this [15:49] He was last banned at a 68.something IP, but apparently his ISP has others in his area. [15:51] Douay_ahh (~augur_oka@ppp-70-133-217-48.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:51] Douay_ahh (~augur_oka@ppp-70-133-217-48.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: filme: nosso lar! chico xavier rulez! [15:52] noone can ban him [15:52] "muahahaha" ? [15:52] he is on a superior OS that a simple linux-IRC bot cannot handle [15:52] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [15:52] SuperiOS ? [15:52] even worse, openbsd [15:53] OpenBSD is nice. It sometiems attracts idiots that thinks it's something all-powerful however [15:55] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [15:57] shadowkllr (~shadowkll@c-76-117-250-121.hsd1.de.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [15:59] it is unfair to judge an OS or an OS variant by the people who use it. [15:59] indeed [16:00] thankfully. imagine what people would think of slackware with jeev as our mascot [16:01] thrice`, ;') [16:02] the other causal relationship does hold, in most cases though [16:02] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-120-4.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:02] dumb OS attracts dumb users [16:06] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [16:08] which is why real computer geeks use VMS! [16:09] Action: NyteOwl hides [16:09] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-207-15.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:09] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-207-15.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:10] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. 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[16:30] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] rob0, I think a lot better. I have been trying to do things to take my mind off of it. [16:32] Douay_ahh (~augur_oka@ppp-70-133-217-48.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:32] good [16:34] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424195.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Disconnected by services [16:34] How are you rob0? [16:34] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.2.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:35] You did mention you have a child right? How does the child cope with it? [16:35] ViniciusPXMB (~phantomx@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [16:35] Douay_ahh (~augur_oka@ppp-70-133-217-48.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-424195.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:36] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.85.75) joined ##slackware. [16:36] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424195.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:41] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424195.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:42] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424195.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:45] I have bunches of kids. They're used to us being paranoid. :) [16:47] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:47] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:48] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-182-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:47] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:48] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-33-213.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:48] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-55-148.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:48] Genk1 (~Am1ne@41.137.56.16) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:49] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-243-166.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:52] rob0, really? :'( [17:53] Do you know if the kids are left alone or not? I can't believe people can find the mentality to stalk. I don't know ANYONE on this planet that is worth stalking. 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[18:11] sobrewolf (~diretoria@189.115.145.39) left irc: Disconnected by services [18:11] Nick change: Guest42918 -> sobrewolf [18:11] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-174.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:12] sobrewolf (~diretoria@187.58.183.42) left irc: Client Quit [18:15] artvdroid (~androirc@19.sub-97-15-89.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:15] ahh, I see it now [18:15] AndroUser2 (~androirc@19.sub-97-15-89.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:15] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [18:16] because Slaxy broke stuff, it's my fault for mentioning something.. that he ended up bungling anyway [18:16] artvdroid (~androirc@19.sub-97-15-89.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:16] AndroUser2 (~androirc@19.sub-97-15-89.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:19] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [18:19] raela (1000@unaffiliated/raela) joined ##slackware. [18:20] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [18:20] Marverick (~Joao@189.59.45.228.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:23] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-182-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:24] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:27] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:30] hi, has anyone here acer aspire one netbook? [18:32] i have trouble with sound [18:37] EreetestMofo (BSD-Ereet@cpe-24-164-171-71.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:39] Linux is a pile of insecure crap that only a mentally retarded chimpanzee, who ate too many lead paint chips as a baby, would deign to use it. GPL = Communism (Communism can't work like Anarchy can't work) BSD= libertarianism. [18:40] Communism has been proven to be a failure [18:40] yay for lousy trolling [18:40] /ignore *!BSD-Ereet@* all [18:40] Linux wil never be as secure as OpenBSD for political,, marketing and technical reasons [18:40] s/wil//will/ [18:40] Linux == crap [18:40] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:41] EreetestMofo, what makes you think we care? [18:41] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*BSD-Ereet@*.hvc.res.rr.com' by nachox!~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar [18:41] EreetestMofo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [18:41] idiot [18:43] elitist (puffy@cpe-24-164-171-71.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] lol [18:43] hi [18:44] nachox, ^ [18:44] im installing slackware from a dvd [18:44] but the computer cannot boot from the dvd [18:44] Linux is a slapdash movement with bandaids and bubblegum holding it together.. No way it will ever be as secure as OpenBSD. Linuux is for bitches and dumb ones at that. [18:44] it boots from cd isos [18:44] OpenBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 4.7 puffy-kernel#0 i386 [18:44] w00t [18:44] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*puffy@*.hvc.res.rr.com' by nachox!~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar [18:44] elitist kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [18:45] but not from the dvd [18:45] the dvd seems to be fine [18:45] it is able to boot other computers [18:45] ganeshix: if it boots from usb you can install installator on usb and then mount your dvd to running system [18:45] but not this one [18:45] aklis (~santi@unaffiliated/aklis) joined ##slackware. [18:45] aklis (santi@unaffiliated/aklis) left ##slackware. [18:45] xchg, installator -> i [18:45] ill use that [18:46] xchg, tnx [18:46] look and "usb-and-pxe-installers" on slackware cd/mirror [18:46] or so [18:47] s/and/at :) [18:47] zkriesse (~zkriesse@ubuntu/member/zkriesse) joined ##slackware. [18:47] HI! [18:47] dood nacho [18:47] *!@*.hvc.res.rr.com [18:47] kuist do it [18:47] *!*@*.hvc.res.rr.com [18:47] he's gonna just change his ident and join [18:48] lol [18:48] Trolls eh? [18:48] yea, must be from your crowd [18:48] :) [18:48] hey guys, my sound's not working, what info do you need to fix it? :D [18:48] jeev, i'm aware of that, i shall deal with him if he comes back [18:48] jeev: Ah I'm not a troll and I don't deal with trolls [18:49] I like trolls, there's fun with them [18:49] i dont even like the use of the word troll, i think it's lame [18:50] it's what the lamers call "conspiracy theorist [18:50] ' [18:50] ircuser (ircuser@cpe-24-164-171-71.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:50] when they dont have anything else to say to them [18:50] here he is nachox [18:50] ircuser, nobody cares. get the fuck out [18:50] Patrick Volkerding is a Communist dictator and Linux is garbage like all things produced by Communism [18:50] lol [18:51] OpenBSD [18:51] OpenBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 4.7 puffy-kernel#0 i386 [18:51] :P [18:51] ircuser, thanks [18:51] if obsd's so great, why's is fringe? [18:51] you have made all of us want to stop using linux [18:51] and use openbsd [18:51] you've succeeded [18:51] Jeez..... [18:51] jeev: Knock it off man [18:51] alphageek "everything great and intelligent is in the minoriity" -- Johann wolfgang von Goethe [18:51] yes, I fed a troll. I'm bored [18:51] what? [18:51] knock what off [18:52] alphageek its in the fringe because it is not userfriendly and only the highly professionnal elite use it [18:52] ircuser (ircuser@cpe-24-164-171-71.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:52] *smirk* [18:53] I have to wonder if he's stuck using that same IP because.. tada.. he can't find a shell on his beloved OS :) [18:53] na he just gets a new ip anyway [18:53] that's why it's best to just ban *hvc [18:54] and it'll ban all user from some provider.. [18:54] who cares [18:54] who else is there here [18:55] look carefully, all 3 logins were from @cpe-24-164-171-71.hvc.res.rr.com [18:55] alphageek, he was in here the other day too.. [18:55] then when they banned his ip, he just changed his mac probably and came in with a new one. [18:56] crap, damn tea [18:56] i TOLE YOU [18:57] Action: alphageek loves tea [18:57] in fact, time for another. brb [18:57] my dad drinks tea 24/7 [18:57] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-174.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:59] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:59] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:00] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-125-113.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:00] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [19:05] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:06] burshki (~dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) joined ##slackware. [19:06] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:06] newslacker (~root@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] hm, what is /etc/pm used for? I guess power management but can't find related manpage [19:07] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:08] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Can someone please tell me the command to update the entire slackware system [19:09] slackpkg upgrade-all [19:10] thanks [19:10] but before that you should run [19:10] slackpkg install new [19:10] and install-new, if new packages where added, hm? [19:10] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:12] do i need to download the entire slackware repository before running slackware upgrade-all [19:12] or does it automatically do a download and install [19:12] slackpkg upgrade-all i mean [19:12] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: quitter [19:12] upgrades all upgradeable packages [19:13] install-new downloads anything new [19:13] newslacker: it uses http/ftp mirrors defined in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [19:14] remember install-new before upgrade-all that's what's important [19:14] is the slackware site in the config for the /etc/slackpkg/mirrors or do i need to add it in ? [19:15] xovan: why is the order important? [19:15] its there [19:15] you'd probably have to cuncomment a mirror if you never used it before though [19:16] i asked because after i ran the command it didnt show it doing anything it just went back to the prompt [19:16] xchg, I find it a safer choice because you'll never forget upgraded packages that depend on new packages [19:16] this is more important in the case of running kde [19:16] less when not [19:18] newslacker, it giving you a Bunch o' nonsense(tm) yet? [19:18] xovan: doesn't slackware provide only security updates? except -current [19:19] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] mostly unless there's a distribution upgrade. [19:19] going from slack 12 to 13 etc [19:20] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [19:21] trying to go from 13.0 to 13.1 [19:21] Mowah (~Mowah@c-4080e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:21] ok, and what the /etc/pm i have mentoined before? nobody know what's it used for? [19:22] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Client Quit [19:23] It is power management configuration [19:23] looks like the power manager daemon part of acpi or something [19:23] It is part of pm-utils [19:23] grep etc/pm /var/log/packages/* [19:23] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 630 seconds [19:24] for laptops right? [19:25] not exclusively [19:25] But mainly useful on lapops [19:26] ok thanks for the education :) [19:26] oh, i was using echo -n mem /sys/power/state for suspend and now I find out there pm-utils :) [19:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:26] xchg, great thing about linux lots of ways to do things but some are more simple and straightforward than others. [19:27] i'm surprised in year 2010 anybody would still have to type in commands to suspend a laptop [19:27] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [19:27] ananke: I always have a term open: I just 'su -' and press 'up', it's most usually the latest command [19:27] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [19:28] actually faster than alternatives [19:28] and not harder [19:28] adrien: my point was that to suspend a laptop all that should be required is closing the lid [19:28] ananke: i don't type, i've wirtten script and set it as an lid action in acpid condifuration [19:28] not typing anything [19:28] ananke: I actually disable that ;-) [19:29] reahel (~reahel@186.87.135.22) joined ##slackware. [19:29] there's a reason it's an option even in windows [19:29] adrien: sure. but you're arguing a different point, not sure why [19:30] because I haven't read the whole backlog :p [19:30] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:32] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-236-173.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] bbl [19:32] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:33] hey guys, so i compiled a custom kernel, and everything is going fine, its just i can't modprobe any modules from it, i have to insmod each one of them. i have my kernel source symlinked to lib/modules/uname -r/build but its not picking up the modules in there. [19:33] can someone advise me as to what i should do? [19:33] MISSINGNO (~MISSINGNO@pool-173-77-119-219.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] darchstar: run depmod -a [19:34] darchstar: and what's modprobe saying? is there some error? [19:34] reahel (reahel@186.87.135.22) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:34] XGizzmo, already gave that a shot [19:35] xchg, just saying it cant load the module [19:36] darchstar (ameer@c-24-13-236-173.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:36] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-236-173.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] sorry about that [19:36] darchstar: what does 'modprobe -l | wc -l' show> [19:36] s/>/? [19:37] 0 [19:37] KillerV (killerv@201.80.146.39) joined ##slackware. [19:37] and did you actually build any modules? [19:37] Well thats not good [19:37] ananke, yes, i built a proprietary broadcom module [19:38] not to mention, did you even install them with make modules_install ? [19:38] broadcom wireless module [19:38] darchstar: i'm talking about any drivers that came with the kernel, not some proprietary third party package [19:38] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [19:38] so if you didn't compile & install any modules, how do you expect them to exist? [19:38] ananke, i didn't build any modules inside the kernel source [19:39] see above [19:39] xchg, your advise worked great [19:40] darchstar: you need to rebuild any drivers that not come with kernel against new kernel [19:40] you're brilliant! [19:40] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:40] ganeshix: what did i said? :D [19:40] did I say.. sorry for my english btw :) [19:41] xchg, of course i do, how else would i be able to insmod them :p [19:42] ananke, ok, fine, so i only need this proprietary module. do i really need to make a module inside the kernel source just to be able to modprobe it? [19:42] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.52) joined ##slackware. [19:42] darchstar: you just need to copy it to modprobe path [19:42] and depmod -a [19:44] ok, the modprobe path for stock kernel is in /lib/modules/uname -r/build, right, so i symlinked my source to there, and have ran depmod. i still can't modprobe it [19:44] darchstar: no, it's in /lib/modules/uname -r/kernel [19:44] hmm [19:45] ahh [19:45] darchstar: build should just contain kernel headers [19:45] thanks [19:46] silly me, that seemed to do the trick. thanks again [19:46] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] ok bye everyone. thanks for the help again again :p [19:47] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-236-173.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:48] i dude the slackpkg command but it still says that im using slack version 13.0 instead of updating to 13.1 [19:48] i did i mean [19:49] newslacker: you need to merge the *.new config files [19:49] ? [19:49] at the end there it should've given you a choice to Keep Overwrite etc some new config files [19:50] newslacker: what slackpkg command? [19:50] update-all [19:50] upgrade-all is the one you're looking for [19:50] did you comment out the 13.0 mirro and uncomment a 13.1 one? [19:51] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:51] /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [19:51] there was no 13.1 in my mirro list [19:51] and probably run "slackpkg update" before upgrading [19:52] newslacker: then how do you expect it to know whee to download from? [19:52] I added a 13.1 [19:52] ok [19:52] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:53] run slackpkg new-config [19:53] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [19:53] and merge all the new config files. [19:53] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: tltstc [19:54] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. 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[22:35] lotec (lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:39] b4r14 (~b4r14@201009128208.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:41] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 612 seconds [22:43] hi to all. someone here has problem with the alsa-module in slack 12.0 64bits? [22:44] i search in the google for 'spurious response' that ocur in ubuntu, and see some results from slack [22:45] latemus (~m@72.8.65.180) joined ##slackware. [22:45] is it a bad idea to 'chmod 700 /lib' on a production server? [22:45] i to think my system from ubuntu 10.04 to slack. because ubuntu is crash every time. [22:46] latemus, yes [22:47] nachox: would you expand a little? it's a webserver [22:47] latemus, some binaries are launched by other users that no root [22:47] latemus, apache doesnt run as root [22:48] if you remove the permissions this programs will not run [22:48] the real question is why you'd want to do that [22:49] i see. [22:49] i am trying to secure every major directory not used by the services running [22:50] by chmod 700 it [22:51] latemus, things might break in new interesting an unexpected ways if you do that [22:51] :) yes, it's quite an interesting lesson [22:52] learning what i can as i try to secure it [22:52] latemus, the best you can do is just keep your system updated, if you run freebsd use jails, if you run solaris, use zones, if you use linux and your linux supports selinux, then keep selinux enabled and teach your system how your service behaves [22:52] jaminja_ (~jaminja@74.81.170.5) joined ##slackware. [22:52] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) left irc: Disconnected by services [22:53] Nick change: jaminja_ -> jaminja [22:53] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.5) left irc: Changing host [22:53] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [22:55] nachox: thanks for the advice. i need it [22:55] someone here have problems with this crash? 'hda-intel spurious response' [22:56] i'll get around to selinux soon [22:56] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [22:59] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:01] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:06] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.89.190) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:15] slackware doesnt have selinux [23:16] nite all [23:16] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:18] nokia3510 (~nokia@fedora/nokia3510) joined ##slackware. [23:24] b4r14 (b4r14@201009128208.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [23:29] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:35] how can you prevent users from running ps [23:36] wha? [23:37] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [23:39] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:42] erik (erik@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [23:42] latemus have you tried making a group specific to it? [23:43] sorry I have to get going [23:43] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:44] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:44] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] nokia3510 (nokia@fedora/nokia3510) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:49] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:50] jaminja_ (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. 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