[00:04] night all [00:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:08] Wdyy (n=AndChat@117.136.27.250) left irc: "Bye" [00:09] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [00:12] r8221 (n=bitch@ip70-162-156-137.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] r8221 (n=bitch@ip70-162-156-137.ph.ph.cox.net) left ##slackware. [00:14] GSUCKS (n=no@71-218-65-181.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] GSUCKS (n=no@71-218-65-181.hlrn.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [00:15] freefox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Connection timed out [00:17] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.167.74.205) joined ##slackware. [00:19] hi, i installed skype from sbo. its not starting. mine is slackware64. is that the reason? [00:21] yup [00:21] danc3: to me? [00:22] no to me [00:22] svinoba: yes to you [00:22] for OOo i used ARCH=x86_64. do i have to try the same for skype too? [00:23] but i guess there was no mention of ARCH=x86_64 in the script. wehreas OOo slackbuild has such a line... [00:25] svinoba: the problem, skype is still closed source, and 32 bit [00:25] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] svinoba: the slackbuild for skype has arch=486 and a note "leave this alone" [00:26] danc3: exactly.. [00:26] danc3: yosii: so no hope of getting skype to work on slack64? [00:27] its a multilib though... [00:27] skype will work just fine on slack64... [00:27] svinoba: there's hope [00:27] I don't know, might work with proper 32 bit libs installed [00:27] svinoba: but you gotta compile it i486 [00:27] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.167.74.205) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:27] svinoba: in the mode that prefers 32 bit [00:28] i think . /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh && ./skype.Slackbuild [00:28] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.167.74.205) joined ##slackware. [00:29] svinoba: . /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh && ./skype.Slackbuild [00:29] yosii: danc3: sorry got disconnected [00:29] the arch for both skype and ooo is immaterial, both are packaing pre-compiled binaries [00:29] yosii: what does that do? [00:30] svinoba: it links against 32 bit libs [00:30] on that front though, good news, skype has confirmed it will be releasing an open-source (yep you read right) linux skype [00:30] mancha: hence, "skype will work just fine on slack64" [00:30] mancha: eventually [00:30] mancha: i think it's cause google bought skype [00:30] yosii: thanks will try it. [00:30] i don't know the reasons, i just know it was confirmed [00:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:31] the ubuntu .deb they have of 64bit skype, is just their 32bit skype linked against ubuntu64 libs. [00:32] yosii: i guess will have to remove installed skype package?! [00:32] Emeau__ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-66-104.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:32] obsidieth (i=o@redux.decrypted.org) joined ##slackware. [00:32] wingman reportin gin? [00:32] obsidieth: all wings check in [00:35] looks like i found the answer to my question if anyone is curious. ironic it was another slack user that came across it. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-current-devroot-688189/ [00:35] hecnce shmence, the ARCH variable is immaterial because thers no compiing happening on those two builds [00:35] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.167.74.205) left irc: "leaving" [00:36] the build script probably shouldnt even have an ARCH variable. [00:36] in most slackbuilds, the ARCH variable is used to determine which compile-time parameters will get used [00:37] the build script has one so it can set the arch tag in the package name most likely [00:37] in this case it is merely to have the package name follow the structure that upgradepkg et al can parse [00:37] the only thing i see the ARCH being used for, is the package name [00:37] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-98-57.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Operation timed out [00:39] Nick change: reflektz -> imp7 [00:39] Nick change: imp7 -> reflektz [00:41] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:42] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:43] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-98-57.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:43] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "aa is for quitters" [00:43] spook, are you sure it's not used to determine x86_64 versus x86 ? [00:43] i was going to ask that once, if it's used that way or not [00:44] isn't the ARCH determining portion of the script supposed to check what the system is? [00:44] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [00:44] Indoctrinate: theres no compiling done in the skype slackbuild. [00:45] ah good point, sorry, wasn't sure what package you were talkin about [00:45] the end package will ALWAYS be i486. [00:45] so the ARCH portion of the other ones, the ones that actually compile, those are actually supposed to check what the system is? [00:46] no, you still need to set it propperly [00:46] for those that support it (most of them) that is [00:47] the criteria for approval for the 13.0 repository was (among other things) a properly used and setup ARCH variable. [00:48] http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [00:49] http://slackbuilds.org/template.SlackBuild [00:51] regardless, for an x86_64, ARCH must be set properly, either as an env varialbe or in the script. the default works for 486 [00:51] only [00:52] ah i get it now, thanks 8-) [00:57] you think maybe slackware should have this set in some profile.d script by default, like one for slackware 13 (ARCH=i486 or x86) and one for slackware64 (ARCH=x86_64) ? [00:58] I personaly do not. by default the env variable is not set. you can edit the scripts noted in the faq link I gave to set yours if you would like [00:58] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host124.201-252-211.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [00:58] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:59] many people use the scripts to deploy to other hw, stop fucking with the defaults. [00:59] and if you want your arch set on yuour box, it is easy enough, it's a one-liner [01:00] Action: x-ip listen fade to black ... metallica [01:00] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:03] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.221.31) joined ##slackware. [01:06] x-ip: no. dont do that. [01:07] isnt allowed here ? [01:07] i mean to tell '/me' what someone listen [01:07] no metal here [01:07] x-ip: we don't care what you listen to [01:07] we're a bluegrass channel [01:07] lol hehe [01:08] ok, np :) [01:08] hi [01:08] Action: deco listens to kamelot [01:08] Action: andarius would sooner die from tazer hits than play bluegrass : [01:08] (:( [01:08] andarius: even Iron Horse? [01:09] any [01:09] is there a separate channel to discuss armedslack ? [01:10] there might be, but it is an official release so as such is fair game here (not sure how many users though) [01:10] ok [01:10] :) [01:13] actually I got myself a BeagleBoard and would like to run armedslack on it, does anyone have a running port? [01:13] obsidieth (i=o@redux.decrypted.org) left ##slackware. [01:15] if not then how can I start to port the current distro (which currently supports marvell sheevaplug) to other arm architectures? [01:17] akshat: check the compatibility list ftp://mirrors.vbi.vt.edu/linux/armedslack/armedslack-12.2/Compatible_Boards_and_Devices.txt [01:18] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-207-50.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:20] MLanden: thanks :) [01:21] akshat: np..just try the other ftp sites on http://www.armedslack.org/ for more information [01:21] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:21] MLanden: ok [01:22] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-93-78.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] Nite all. [01:22] agentc0re: g'night. [01:23] night agentc0re [01:23] agentc0re: night [01:26] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" 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[02:08] firedix (n=firedix@host139.200-45-147.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:11] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:15] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:15] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [02:17] DallaRosa (n=dalla@dn157-047.naist.jp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:25] yosii (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:34] ivan__ (n=ivan@190.149.96.157) joined ##slackware. [02:39] Her0 (n=jkemp@174-157-133-42.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [02:40] Wdyy (n=AndChat@117.136.27.254) joined ##slackware. [02:41] yosii (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:42] Can anyone help me? I'm wondering if Slack has a package for Proprietary drivers that work with it, or if i need to download linux drivers from ATI website. [02:44] Her0: slackbuilds.org [02:46] deco: I tried searching there...i didn't find anything on drivers. [02:46] search for ati [02:46] nevermind [02:47] Im not huge fan of desktop effects just want basics though =P. [02:47] Comes up with nothing? [02:48] no with too much [02:49] ATI has Linux drivers but my last encounter with them were'nt so hot. The windows moved SLOW after install :S [02:49] The propreitary ones downloaded automatically in Ubuntu and Fedora worked much better than the actual ATI ones. [02:50] http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/ [02:59] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Connection timed out [02:59] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [03:00] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. 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[03:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:46] ok this question may be strange, i havn't researhed much about it: It is possible to have 'binary diff',can we have a method where by which we can apply patch in binary than in source form ? ,say eg: the new nvidia drivers which only differ in few with the previous [03:46] s/It is/Is it/ [03:47] ivan__ (n=ivan@190.149.96.157) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:47] it's possible i believe, however, i wouldn't want to play around with it that way [03:47] could lead to bad results [03:49] Indoctrinate: yea , just curious :), for people like me where we live with 96kps that is a blessing ;) [03:49] i understand your pain but oh well [03:49] do you need those drivers like right now? because you can always have them download over night (or maybe if you have a laptop and there is a wireless "hot spot" nearby.....) 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[04:57] morning [05:04] morning Camarade_Tux [05:04] form which part of the world you are ? :) [05:06] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:11] France, Paris :) [05:11] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62915@gateway/web/freenode/x-zhuwhfikcigwxftu) joined ##slackware. [05:15] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:16] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:17] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-152-16.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:22] Camarade_Tux: nice, it is cold there now ? any snow ? [05:22] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62915@gateway/web/freenode/x-zhuwhfikcigwxftu) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [05:24] mac-: well, quite cold and rainy today =/ [05:25] i`m from Krakow, Poland and it is a little cold too here [05:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [05:26] hehe :P [05:26] there has been snow a few days ago in another part of France but it was in the Alpes [05:26] brb, gotta eat [05:28] bon appetit :) [05:33] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [05:35] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [05:40] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [05:48] evening kids [05:50] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [05:51] g'day fellers. looking for a tool to convert .sub to .srt format. any suggestions? [05:54] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.50) joined ##slackware. [05:54] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:54] SOUL_OF_R00T (i=R00T@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. 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[06:07] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:08] when has slackware moved to kernel 2.6? :) [06:11] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:14] hello [06:15] hi Agiofws [06:16] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-151.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:17] hey [06:18] i am really pleased with mu irc proxy ... :) [06:18] it runs on openwrt on a headless little router :) [06:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [06:25] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-59-100-96-66.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:26] gartt_ (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:26] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:29] gutts (n=gutts@213.162.50.51) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:29] Knightingale are those subtites for video tracks? [06:30] Nick change: cteg_ -> cteg [06:33] cteg_ (n=heretic@host-091-097-168-134.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [06:34] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-168-079.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:34] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:38] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:38] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:39] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-176-239-3.lns6.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:40] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:44] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:46] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [06:46] mancha, yes. think the text is stored as raster images. [06:49] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-117.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [06:50] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.248.212.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [06:54] hrm http://www.robelix.com/sub2srt/ [06:55] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:56] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Client Quit [06:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [06:57] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: "reboot" [06:58] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.50) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:59] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-096-211.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [06:59] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. 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[07:14] cteg_ (n=heretic@host-091-097-168-134.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:16] testing [07:16] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:19] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:19] I have a virtual disk image file which can grow up to 10GB (uses 2GB on the disk atm), but I wonder if it can shrink too since I only really use 1.5GB [07:20] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:24] gutts_ (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-154-23.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:26] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:26] TClayton (n=TClayton@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:27] Inacio (i=1000@206.94.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:27] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:31] i got wicd working [07:31] all on my own [07:31] freefox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [07:31] what was wrong? [07:31] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@79.103.2.121.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:31] well, i rtfm [07:31] The-Croupier (n=agapi@79.103.2.121.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:32] and was like, hmm maby i need to declare my wireless card in /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf [07:32] and shure enough [07:32] "wireless_card= None" [07:32] so i s/none/wlan0/ [07:32] and BAM, wicd showed me networks [07:32] lol [07:33] all on my own :D [07:33] arent u proud? [07:33] :P [07:34] you propably learned alot trying to work around this problem [07:34] indeed [07:35] should i go re-comment all the stuff i un-commented in inet1.conf? [07:35] yes [07:35] man i need to start makeing *.orig's [07:35] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:35] go look in /var/log/packages/ and see which package it came from [07:35] that way if i forget what i fucked up, i can just mv inet1.conf.org inet1.conf [07:35] then fecth the package and run explodepkg on it [07:35] Inacio (i=1000@206.94.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:36] ?? [07:36] what areu talkin about? [07:36] ah [07:36] packages? did we do something w/ packages? [07:36] 13:44 < beatzz> man i need to start makeing *.orig's [07:36] i thought you had fucked up the file [07:36] if you ever happen to fuck up a file you do this: [07:36] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:37] grep filename /var/log/packages/* [07:37] then when you find out that filename came from packge-something, you download package-something, and run explodepkg package-something [07:37] than you get a directoy with the content of the package [07:38] so you can just copy the file by hand [07:38] neat huh? [07:38] brilliant! [07:38] ahhhh [07:39] giving you the original file that was installed [07:39] exclent. [07:39] excelent* ? [07:39] w/e [07:40] just make sure you make a temprorary directory to put the package in before you run explodepkg on it [07:40] explodepkg really lives up to its name :P [07:40] zmyrgel (n=zmyrgel@hoasnet-fe22dd00-59.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:40] indeed [07:40] well, i have about 5 more pages to review, then i can say i've gone through this book TWICE [07:40] once those are done, im gana make flash cards for all the tedious information [07:41] raid levels, man sections, syntax options [07:41] i dont know how many times ive had to demangle my ~/bin and ~/lib from the contents of a package that i accedently exploded in ~ [07:41] if you explode any package at the top of the root/tree it will disapear in to / (not literally disapear but you will have to go on a fishing expedition if you only wanted one file out of it) [07:41] :x dosent sound very fun [07:41] i also got my wireless repeator working [07:41] :D [07:41] nice [07:41] hellz yea [07:42] Pig_Pen: never ever run explodepkg as root [07:42] i wish i could put encription to connect to MY repeator, but have the repeator connect to the wifi network with "unsecured" still. [07:42] so people cant hog my resources [07:42] ok :) [07:42] Pig_Pen: it is quite easy to malform a packge to actually contain the leading / [07:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:43] you have that rt61 wifi chip? [07:43] negitive, i took it back [07:43] yeah that one sucks [07:43] and exchanged for a linksys [07:43] i could never get wpa_supplicant to play nice with that wifi chip [07:43] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) joined ##slackware. [07:44] 10 more dollars was worth the headache of configureing a card right now when my main foccus should be to study [07:44] + the one i got now, its anttena is massive [07:44] i mean MASSIVE [07:44] it makes the card itself look tiny [07:45] i bought an external antenna for my desktop, has a magnet mount on top of the PC case [07:45] back [07:45] wb impy [07:45] tripFantastic (i=1000@c-68-56-215-21.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:45] morning [07:45] indeed. [07:46] hey it snowed here in San Antonio yesterday [07:46] for like 5 minutes. but there was snow in the air. [07:46] oh woops... wasn't supposed to go to every channel i'm in [07:46] it snowed down in Houston too [07:46] no snow or ice here but it is cold as hell [07:46] so much for global warming ;p [07:46] its 27.4*F right now. [07:46] it's snowing for the first time [this year] right now. calling for 3-5" today [07:47] where u at ananke ? [07:47] and just a few days ago it was 65F [07:47] beatzz: virginia, southwestern edge [07:47] right on. i lived in VA beach for a few years. [07:47] the whole east coast is getting it [07:47] i like VA, very green [07:47] can i get a box of snow delivered? [07:48] beatzz: yep. and this part of VA doesn't get as hot as VA beach [07:48] it is funny that the rt61 wont work, but the rt71 is a hero [07:48] tripFantastic: for only 999, 999 dollars, I'll ship you one [07:49] ty [07:49] tripFantastic: and shipping is free! [07:49] kool [07:49] it is the one to fall back when everything else goes wrong :P [07:49] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:49] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:51] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [07:53] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [07:53] despiron (n=despiron@187.64.20.168) joined ##slackware. [07:53] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:54] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:54] i also got my wireless repeator working/»nb [07:55] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t* expired. [07:55] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:55] yay [07:55] good [07:55] that was my boy sorry [07:55] hes 19mo and is more into the cpu's than i am [07:56] :P [07:58] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [07:58] beatzz: you can make jewlry out of old electronic components like IC chips, get rich selling earrings and necklaces made from old computer junk [07:59] ...not shure if theres a big market for that Pig_Pen, but i like ur "out-of-the-box" thinking [07:59] is there a way to limit transfer rate with scp? [07:59] -l ;p [07:59] you need a couple of tons of computer junk to get a gram of gold [07:59] put limit rates on ur iptable? [08:00] -l 80 (for KB/s) [08:00] sure, just get one of those little tiny butane torches and unsoldier some chips off of junk motherboards, attach to earring bases and necklace chains and your in business [08:00] i was JUST looking at something about that on slackwiki Camarade_Tux [08:00] under security [08:00] then "server firewall" [08:01] dont know if it will help you or not.. but i saw something on there about rate limits. [08:01] scp -l 70 t/devel.vmdk.xz camaradetux@yaxm.org:~ [08:01] ;-) [08:02] doh, it's in Kb/s, not KB/s [08:02] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:03] The-Croupier (n=agapi@79.103.2.121.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [08:03] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@41-96-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:27] this is old school smoked bacon, smoked in a smoker [08:28] smoke house or whatever they call it [08:28] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_8Hml0Jx10 <---- MUST SEE [08:30] brbrbr (n=basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:31] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.73.241) joined ##slackware. [08:31] brbrbr (n=basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [08:32] jak2000 (n=ja@189.155.196.172) joined ##slackware. [08:33] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [08:33] ivan__ (n=ivan@190.149.119.174) joined ##slackware. [08:33] must see what beatzz? [08:34] he doesn't seem to be online Pig_Pen [08:35] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik|wrk [08:35] im here [08:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_8Hml0Jx10 [08:36] this video, u guys should check it out [08:36] his username is still logged in, he is just away from his PC at the moment, (the lights are on but nobody is home) give him time he will be back [08:36] its somewhat hummorus. [08:36] seen it beatz [08:37] after bacon & eggs and toast & homemade jam i feel like sleeping for an hour [08:37] Initng looks nice [08:38] Pig_Pen: that dose sound nice [08:38] im udpgradeing my server to -current [08:38] that doze sounds nice :p [08:39] be careful, -current is subject to developmental changes that can be radical and sometimes lead to instability [08:40] construction zone [08:40] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [08:40] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-39-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:42] hi there [08:47] niceman_ (n=Takumoro@41.252.12.177) left irc: [08:49] hey guys are torrents still the best way to download stuff to watch... or has anything changed? [08:49] yes [08:49] beatzz: i seccond Pig_Pen here.. running -current on a server is not "best practice" [08:49] macavity: yes what... [08:49] The-Croupier: yes that is a good way to "download stuff to watch" [08:50] subject to copyright disclaimer etc etc [08:50] macavity: is there any other ? [08:50] usenet [08:50] but you need a subscription [08:50] macavity: :x how to i convert back to stable? [08:50] edit mirrors and update/upgrade-all again? [08:52] sounds like you made a mess beatzz [08:53] usenet i see...;) i will check that out.. thanks macavity [08:55] you do not usually downgrade packages [08:55] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.97.248) joined ##slackware. [08:55] beatzz: yes [08:55] IceChant (n=icechant@109.160.157.21) joined ##slackware. [08:56] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.224.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [08:59] Mefached (n=mefached@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:00] beatzz: you should also "clean-system" and "install-new", as packages have been added and removed [09:00] if it was me and i had to clean up a mess like that i would save /etc somewhere and wipe and do a clean install, then use etc to double check my config files if anything need adjustment [09:00] I would like to use Slackware, but I am not comfortable with KDE 4.x, so I wanted to get 12.2 instead of 13.0. I cannot find any download links on the site. [09:00] i got this one guys [09:00] Mefached: give me 2 secs. [09:00] u want the dvd? [09:00] The CD will be fine. [09:00] Although if you have a DVD link, that's good too. [09:00] i think the TDS mirror will have 12.2 ISOs [09:01] ok theres a few of them but i will put u to the directory where they are at. [09:01] Mefached: you can also try kde3 on slackware13 I think [09:01] Mefached: USA? [09:01] beatzz: yes. [09:01] Camarade_Tux: Even if that's true, my experiences with Ubuntu recently have turned me off to ever using the most recent version of something. [09:02] Mefached: http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/ [09:02] Mefached: hahaha, *THIS* *IS* *NOT* ubuntu [09:02] Mefached: slackware != ubuntu [09:02] Oh, I know. [09:02] I've used Zenwalk in the past [09:02] I know the differences [09:02] when we say its stable, its stable. [09:02] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.68.250) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:02] well, when pat sais its stable, its stable [09:03] Mefached: even -current is probably more stable than a regular ubuntu release [09:03] Camarade_Tux: I've only busted my Zenwalk box once, and my Ubuntu laptop breaks probably once every two weeks. [09:03] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/slackware-12.2-install-dvd.iso [09:04] DANGER! BIG FILE 3.9 gigs [09:04] Speaking of, I plan on putting this on a laptop, it wouldn't be especially difficult, would it? I only went with Ubuntu on said laptop because of the ease of wifi driver installation, but I figure broadcom 43xx was supported in Zenwalk and should be in Slackware proper [09:04] Mefached: better go for slackware13 if for bcm43xx, it's included in newer kernels [09:05] Mefached: bcm43which? bcm4312? [09:05] Mefached: <-- slackware 13.0 - current on a laptop, it kicks ass. [09:05] Camarade_Tux, I'm not quite sure which, actually. The laptop is relatively new, I don't know the specs offhand. [09:05] NO probems whatsoever [09:05] everything worked out of the box w/ slackware 13 [09:06] http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/upgrading-from-kde-4-2-4-to-kde-3-5-10-in-slackware-13/ OK, this page gives me confidence in Slackware 13, I think I'll just get that instead [09:06] Mefached: Try this link, Slack 13 with kde 3.5 :) ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/ [09:06] I'd really go for 13 [09:07] (if on a newer laptop) [09:07] Well, as long as I can get 3.5, 13 is fine with me [09:07] I've had nightmares with 4.x and I don't want to go there again [09:08] this is why you switch to XFCE. ;) [09:08] Mefached: if 4312, kernel 2.6.32 has the driver, previous ones don't (but I can give you a driver that goes with 2.6.29.6 which is slackware13's kernel) [09:08] Mefached: any GUI you pick, you cant go wronge w/ slackware [09:09] Any way I look at it [09:09] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.73.241) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:09] I'm definitely going to miss apt-get [09:09] but I'm not going to miss anything else [09:09] maybe not ;-) [09:09] Mefached: just a word of warning .. I would stay well clear of http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com and any advise they are offering. As far as I have seen they are complete and utter fucktards and idiots with a sore lack of clue and generally wearing their arse for a hat. [09:10] BP{k}: hahaha :P [09:10] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [09:10] BP{k}, 'twas just the first result in Google. I only care about the fact that 3.5 works in 13, not about their opinions. :P [09:10] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.65.143) joined ##slackware. [09:11] slack 14 is out [09:11] :p [09:11] Camarade_Tux, BP{k} ioooo [09:11] yoyo fredoslack [09:11] Well, the Slackware 13 DVD is torrenting right now, I can't wait to get rid of Ubuntu 9.10 (which is worse than even 9.04) [09:11] deco ioo le renard [09:11] =) [09:11] fredoslack: deco isn't there ;-) [09:12] Camarade_Tux, dis-lui que je le haļsme lool [09:12] if you see him lol [09:12] what has he done? [09:12] Mefached: Running KDE from 12.2 on slackware 13.0 is not the most "smart" ways of doing things. However having that all said and done; Patrick released an unsupported version of KDE 3.5.10 for Slackware 13.0 here: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/ .. just make sure you read the README. [09:13] Camarade_Tux, nothing [09:13] lol [09:13] ok ;-) [09:13] Camarade_Tux, i'me just a few ... [09:13] crazy lool [09:14] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.97.248) left irc: "leaving" [09:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.59) joined ##slackware. [09:16] ok so... slackpkg upgrade-all is running [09:16] if I Ctrl-C it [09:16] will i be in for some hella bad problems ? [09:16] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] i decided i dont want -current on my server, so i need to edit my mirrors and redo update/upgrade-all [09:18] beatzz, I recall doing something similar in Zenwalk and it broke everything pretty badly, could have been a fluke [09:19] Camarade_Tux, a cup of wine lool >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/0005.gif [09:20] not drinking now :P [09:20] lol [09:20] beatzz: slackpkg upgrade-all && slackpkg clean-system && slackpkg instal-new [09:21] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Action: fredoslack love small yeallow heads [09:21] macavity: i figured, running upgrade-all as we speak [09:22] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.76.105.95) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:22] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [09:22] fredoslack: asian fetish? :P [09:23] macavity, i don't understand [09:23] sorry [09:24] i think he is refering to emoticons like in chatrooms and email :) [09:24] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] fredoslack, small yellow heads = smileys (?) [09:24] yes [09:24] small yeallow head <=> smileys [09:25] Mefached, http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Manger/0046.gif [09:25] lool [09:26] bon je go [09:26] ą plus away [09:26] =) [09:26] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:27] lol [09:27] wertik|wrk (n=wertik@95-24-152-16.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [09:30] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-207-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:55] I have a friend who can speak certain languages well only when drunk [09:55] hahaha :P [09:55] ivan__ (n=ivan@190.149.119.174) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:56] Having a fluent convo with the driver after a few beers, but when sober, she was struggling to speak :P [09:56] I think I speak english and german more fluently when drunk, but I speak french more fluently too when drunk ;-) [09:56] ivan__ (n=ivan@190.149.49.71) joined ##slackware. [09:56] It's a funny thing- sometimes after a few beers you can think better. My theory is that it quiets out the background "noise" in your brain [09:57] gartt, but you can only subconsciously think better, -conscious- thought fails entirely [09:57] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.24.194) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Trust me, I'm Scot/German, I'm GENETICALLY drunk, I don't even have to touch the stuff [09:57] hmmm, not only, it makes your dare more things too I think, you'll try things you hadn't thought possible [09:57] Just have to think about it [09:58] Mefached: Maybe. But even writing papers, I do better after a few beers, and some friends too. Great grades too [09:58] yeah, some but not too many ;-) [10:01] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-023.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] briancron (n=user@c-76-114-200-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:04] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.8.101) joined ##slackware. [10:04] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:06] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@41-96-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:37] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [11:37] hi guys, do you know how can i install wine on slackware 13.0 64 bits? [11:38] cos the slackbuild is too old [11:38] hmmm, nice http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc3NQ [11:39] Sadnem: isn't just a matter of changing var's? [11:39] no [11:39] no [11:40] cos i need to have gcc > 4.4 [11:40] on slackware64, you need multilib [11:40] for newer wine versions [11:40] Sadnem: do you want to run *WIN64* apps? [11:40] of win32 ones? [11:40] win32 [11:40] apps [11:40] gcc 4.4 is only needed for wine64 which can only run win64 apps [11:40] Is there an open source partition magic? [11:41] you need to put multilib on your slackware64: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [11:41] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] ftr, gcc-4.4 is available slackware64 (at least on -current) [11:41] ohh i see, thanks [11:41] kleanchap: which features do you need? [11:41] Once you do have multilib, though, 32-bit wine works very nicely on a 64-bit "Slackware". [11:41] I need to delete a windows partition and make my laptop a dual partition system. [11:42] kleanchap: fdisk and cfdisk or (g)parted aren't ok? [11:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:43] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:43] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:43] I do not want to loose any data from the current install. [11:43] gparted, is that new? [11:43] I know what fdisk and cfdisk can do. [11:44] you want to resize partitions? [11:44] what do you have now? what do you want after that? [11:45] I have Vista on my laptop with C: and D: drives [11:46] Camarade_Tux, I guess I am seeing your point now. [11:46] Thanx. [11:46] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] crap [11:47] Well, it is time to backup and cleanup the D: drive. [11:47] gl hf [11:47] kleanchap: avoid resizing your windows system partition if you can [11:47] Ok. [11:48] firedix (n=firedix@host139.200-45-147.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:48] kleanchap: but if you want to install slackware on d:, you only need to fdisk your drive, change the partition type to "Linux" (really easy) and mkfs.{ext3,ext4,xfs,jfs,whatever} [11:49] kleanchap: resizing or moving the windows partition is an easy way to break the windows boot manager, you can do it without problem but avoiding it altogether is even safer [11:49] yeah [11:50] if you do decide to re-size windows have a windows dvd handy so you can repair the windows boot manager if needed. [11:53] beatzz__ (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:22] jonsmith1982: I would go with xfce on a netbook [13:22] jonsmith1982: I would go with fluxbox for anything but that's me [13:23] yeah, fluxbox is awesome. xfce is a little easier to use [13:23] RJz0r (n=wafflez@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] i gata try one of them one day. [13:23] mrpwnage (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: "leaving" [13:23] ive just stuck w/ kde cause im used to it. [13:24] I run xfce and fluxbox on my slackware boxen:) [13:24] Nick change: Mrselfpw1 -> mrpwnage [13:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:25] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:27] briancron (n=user@c-76-114-200-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:28] http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/05/1511258/Accidental-Download-Sending-22-Year-Old-Man-To-Prison ....wow. [13:28] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:29] ahh shit, look who just walked in. [13:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@75.111.189.11) joined ##slackware. [13:29] your daddy \o/ [13:29] lol [13:29] :P [13:29] are you old enough? [13:29] :D [13:29] agentc0re: nah [13:30] sup hiptobecubic? hip hop till you don't stop! :P [13:30] deco: is 66 [13:30] >=) [13:30] inches long [13:31] you're short, you must have small feet. you know what they say about men with small feet. [13:31] agentc0re: they stink ? [13:31] ChArLoK_16 (n=Abdurrah@188.247.10.211) joined ##slackware. [13:31] jhw (n=jhw@p548F685A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:31] >:] [13:31] jhw (n=jhw@p548F685A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] yup. [13:32] jhw (n=jhw@p548F685A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:32] jhw (n=jhw@p548F685A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. 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[14:05] Camarade_Tux: stop spamming [14:05] ^^ [14:06] Nick change: Ignacio_ -> nachox [14:08] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:11] deco: but that's all you ever do :P [14:12] Camarade_Tux: hehe, some of those are pretty good. [14:12] firefox blew up again [14:13] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [14:13] y0 agentc0re [14:13] agentc0re: I got another one: "the word of the day is legs, let's go home and spread the word" :P [14:13] mako-dono: that's a new feature. [14:13] t0mu (n=Secdev@189.72.72.2) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [14:13] agentc0re: could be listed in "worst pick-up lines" too ;-) [14:13] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Camarade_Tux: WOOT! that's awesome. [14:13] Camarade_Tux stop using your pic up lines on me!!!! [14:13] pick* [14:13] Action: fire|bird waits for agentc0re to try that one and report the girls reaction. [14:14] fire|bird: sup man! :) I found a really old post from you on LQ. is your username on there something that starts with an M? [14:14] i'll just use it on my wife right now. [14:14] ^ ^ [14:14] agentc0re: did he ask how to install slackware ? :P [14:14] we were wondering how many girl would slap you with such a pickup line ;p [14:14] agentc0re: nope, on LQ I'm firebird619. [14:15] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [14:15] wtf am i doing here [14:15] fire|bird: i thought it was you because the user was firebird within the conf file. [14:15] I wondered the same thing. [14:15] lol [14:15] o_o [14:15] agentc0re: ah, so there's a clone of me out there somewhere? :P [14:16] let me find it. [14:16] Her0 (n=jkemp@70-5-183-42.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] the pick up line didn't work. [14:16] i don't think she even got it. [14:17] ^^ [14:17] .. wait, i retract that last sentence. [14:17] i got the evil eye. [14:17] agentc0re: Is she blonde? [14:17] Action: fire|bird ducks [14:17] lol [14:17] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:18] no [14:18] :P [14:18] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:19] WICD connects but says Unable to obtain IP address. Any help? [14:19] agentc0re: I'm going to try to find you another good one :P [14:19] Connecting to a DSL modem wirelessly. =P [14:19] Her0: link quality? which version of wicd? hidden ssid? mac filtering? [14:19] do you have an active dhcp server? [14:20] WICD worked fine in Fedora & Ubuntu ....let me check version. 1 sec [14:20] 1.6.2.1 [14:20] agentc0re: http://www.kongregate.com/games/SirRealism/the-lacogessta-research (flash game, pickup lines in the background) [14:22] ChArLoK_16 (n=Abdurrah@188.247.10.211) left irc: "leaving" [14:23] It still connects me though, but gives me a 169.254.X.X IP [14:23] And no actual internet connectivity OBVIOUSLY.... [14:25] fire|bird: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/samba-without-authentication-384697/ [14:25] fire|bird: ;guest account = firebird [14:26] 169.254.X.X sounds like a private ip, given automatically [14:26] damnit! im ready to take this test NOW. [14:26] Camarade_Tux: that's because it is. [14:26] Her0: try running "dhcpcd -d -t 20 wlan0" (adapt to your interface name) [14:26] agentc0re: ;-) [14:26] beatzz: what test? [14:26] linux+ , i scedualed it for 19th [14:26] agentc0re: Hmm, they could be using that because there is such a think as a Firebird database or server thing out there, but if not, dangit, we've got an imposter. I [14:26] s/I// [14:26] :P [14:26] but i just finished the book my second time. [14:26] Her0: so is this dsl modem suppose to assign a public ip via dhcp or a private ip? [14:26] s/think/thing/ [14:27] and i dont wana wait another 2 weeks. [14:27] err, wlan0: dhcpcd already running on pid 5943 (/etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-wlan0.pid) [14:27] Her0: also, does have logs that show your mac address and that it's connected to it? [14:27] Her0: what version of slackware are you running? [14:27] Her0: kill 5943 [14:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:27] beatzz: great, now go through it a 3rd, 4th, and 5th time. :) [14:27] agentc0re: 13.0 [14:28] fire|bird: lol [14:28] hmmm, wannabe miss France dancing in mini skirts, nice :) [14:28] Her0: dhcpcd -k wlan0 [14:28] Should i kill the proccess first ? [14:28] =S lol [14:28] listen to Camarade_Tux [14:28] <- newb [14:28] but killing it would definitly fix ur problem. [14:29] Her0: well skip using wicd and try wpa_supplicant. the gui has improved a lot for it. it's called, 'wpa_gui' [14:29] no error or anything after running that Camarade_Tux [14:29] wait a sec Her0 [14:29] I JUST had that same error last night [14:29] and i fixed it [14:29] wicd works fine now [14:30] take a look at your /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf [14:31] I had a problem with wicd where interface names got swapped and wicd thought the wireless if was the wired one and vice-versa, it should check interfaces [14:31] Her0: dose it show you the available networks in wicd? [14:31] beatzz: yes [14:32] ok and in your /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf [14:32] what value do u have for.... [14:32] Action: beatzz looks [14:33] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Her0: "dhcp_client= " [14:33] Her0 looks [14:33] i have 2 and it works [14:34] 2 = dhcpcd [14:34] "dhcp_client = 2" is what mine reads and [14:34] it works * like NaCl stated. [14:35] 2 [14:35] hrrmmm... [14:36] maby the problem lies on your router? [14:36] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.58.143) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:36] According to what I saw above, the dhcpcd process isn't dying. [14:36] beatzz: works fine in windows AND in Fedora =P [14:36] can u connect wirelessly to the same AP with a differnt machine? [14:36] Yep. [14:36] what encription ? wpa 1/2 wep? [14:36] Her0: wicd should actually run "dhcpcd -k [14:37] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:37] before trying to start a new connection [14:38] Her0: what encription is your AP useing? and what driver dose /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf specify in "wpa_driver = " ???? [14:38] hm.... [14:38] Her0: you *are* authenticating with the AP, right? [14:38] Hold on brb gotta run to store. It say WEP next to it in WICD [14:38] but its an AT&T 2Wire Router. [14:39] hmm WEP, wish i lived next to u :P [14:39] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] beatzz: no shit. thought same thing when i saw it =P [14:39] beatzz: Its a relatives lol [14:39] uuh ha... "relatives".... ;) [14:40] Anywho g2g i'll be back to bug ya guys some more into helping me.... [14:40] see if your "relatives" have mac filtering on [14:40] lol, Aunts.....i swear ;) [14:40] 192.168.0.1 [14:40] be back in like 15 mins [14:40] peace [14:43] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:43] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.73.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:43] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.73.95) joined ##slackware. [14:45] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:45] <3 2WIRE routers [14:46] jhw (n=jhw@p548F685A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:46] i got one here, its a DSL router. [14:46] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] 2WIRE routers are awesome [14:48] >|< linksys ? [14:49] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:50] fire|bird: hey, do you have a vm that can boot to the slackware boot cd/dvd ? [14:51] despiron (n=despiron@187.64.20.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] despiron (n=despiron@187.64.20.168) joined ##slackware. [14:52] agentc0re: yup [14:52] fire|bird: will you do me a favor and boot to it? [14:53] fire|bird: i don't have the capability right now. [14:53] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:54] agentc0re: why are you asking? [14:54] just curious if /dev/root is created. [14:55] house (i=house@86.123.45.158) joined ##slackware. [14:55] hmmm, I don't think so but I may be wrong [14:55] nositelicense_ (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:55] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:55] just needs an usbboot.img to check ;-) [14:55] is there that option to update things ? synaptic manager somwehere ? [14:55] i`m in kde 4 and ca`t find it [14:55] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:56] house: man slackpkg [14:57] so no gui ? [14:57] house: when you do slackpkg upgrade-all you will get one. [14:57] Nick change: Akuma0n3 -> Akuma [14:58] agentc0re: nope, that isn't created. [14:58] house: it's in ncurses though. [14:58] agentc0re: hmmm, what would /dev/root point to? [14:58] fire|bird: is that on a 13.0 version? 32 or 64 bit? [14:58] agentc0re: 13.0 64bit [14:59] but really, it has nothing to point to! [14:59] well /dev/root will get mapped to your root partition. i had an issue with making my volume group name root, IE /dev/root and naming my LV home; /dev/root/home. but because of this mapping it screws it up. [14:59] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] agentc0re: yeah, but you don't have a root partition during install [15:00] i emailed pat about it and suggested a few things but at one point he said i shouldn't create a device that already exists. WHich i agree with, but if it doesn't exist during the install boot, how would i know? [15:00] i mean, i never know about /dev/root until this whole issue anyways. [15:01] Camarade_Tux: exactly... but during install is when you would configure a LVM though, right? so if it doesn't exist then, how would you know? [15:01] |Cyb3rGh0st| (n=user@94.75.222.181) joined ##slackware. [15:02] fire|bird: thank you for doing that. :D [15:02] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] I avoid the problem by not using lvm >< [15:02] not a problem with lvm. you can make mapper devices for any reason. [15:05] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] while the simple solution is to rename my VG, and i know that and i'm also the only one to probably ever have this "problem", i think there should have been some sort of check that prevented me from doing so. [15:05] agentc0re, can i uncomment more than one mirror ? the one i wanted does not work sends 404 [15:06] IceChant (n=icechant@109.160.157.21) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [15:06] took me a while to figure it out and after consulting with someone in #LVM, he doesn't even have a /dev/root and would have never ran into the problem. [15:07] slackware's udev adds the /dev/root symlink, it's a slack-specific thing [15:07] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:09] sup thrice` [15:09] jak2009 (n=ja@189.155.196.172) joined ##slackware. [15:09] thrice`: ya, found that out yesterday. [15:10] agentc0re: you're welcome [15:10] jak2000 (n=ja@189.155.196.172) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:11] how do i get gnome ? kde 4 pisses me off [15:12] install slackware? [15:12] ohh, wait, read it backwards... [15:12] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-191.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] beatzz: nice one ;-) [15:12] anyone here play Nexuiz??? [15:12] house: there are a few projects that provide gnome for slackware, check out gware or gsb, however gsb is more up to date atm. [15:12] beatzz: sometimes [15:12] xwmconfig does not have gnome [15:13] Camarade_Tux: hows 2.5? [15:13] house: gnome is not included in slackware, you need an external thing [15:13] house: if you really want gnome i suggest you try a different distro [15:13] beatzz: I really don't play it much [15:13] bah [15:13] diff haha mkay NO [15:13] house: change distro or install it [15:13] house: you can check what fire|bird mentionned [15:14] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [15:14] ok [15:14] thanks [15:14] house: remember, with slackware...ANYTHING is possible... [15:14] no boundries :D [15:15] house: GSB is a gnome edition to slackware. But once you do that, not many will help you with problems in here when that's installed as gnome tends to change everything. [15:15] i play nexiuz... well it's been a while since i don't have my good machine up and running yet. [15:16] linux is weird , i tried debian and wanted to get mozilla after i installed it but after trying really hard i discovered that it was named iceweasel [15:16] reeeeally hard [15:16] ecaz (n=ecaz@cpe-173-168-158-53.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:16] yeah they give names heh [15:16] iceape is thunderbird [15:16] or something [15:17] house: it's a trademark problem [15:17] it`s gay [15:17] house: mozilla doesn't let other people use the "firefox" name [15:17] Im back and still no luck getting WICD to work and not sure how to navigate WPA GUI [15:18] Her0: WPA GUI? [15:18] still fighting your wlan [15:18] good luck upgrading iceweasel to "firefox" 3.5.5 . not [15:18] the GUI frontend to wpa_supplicant som1 mentioned earlier. [15:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:18] cteg: i got mine working at 6am this morning [15:19] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "PEBKAC, ID-10-T clicked the X ^_^" [15:19] using iwconfig and dhcpcd works fine for connecting to unprotected / public wifi but times out using wep key [15:19] yeah its not too hard if get the right chipset and dont have to fiddle with ndiswrapper and wine or something [15:21] Her0: can u pastebin your /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf [15:21] ? [15:21] anyway my wlan here sucks because of steel in the walls whatever, i made a dlan installation which works just perfect [15:21] beatzz: Sure, 1 min [15:23] http://pastebin.com/d7519a048 [15:23] K_Krunch (n=K_Krunch@142.177.57.203) joined ##slackware. [15:24] Action: beatzz takes a look at it [15:24] hi all. [15:24] Her0: are u shure about that url? [15:25] how do I keep a user from adding /sbin to their .bashrc? [15:25] Her0: nevermind i got it [15:25] yep works fine for me... [15:25] lol [15:25] adding it to their path you mean? [15:25] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-023.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:25] yes [15:25] you can't. what you can do is make it unaccessible even if they do add it [15:26] or inaccessible i guess [15:26] can you tell me how? [15:26] Mefached (n=mefached@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:26] chmod 700 /sbin [15:26] I have a laptop with a touchpad. During the install process, what do I select for the option for /dev/mouse? [15:27] Her0: mv /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf.orig [15:27] Weltenfeind (n=vzzmirc@0138800170.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Weltenfeind (n=vzzmirc@0138800170.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [15:27] gana send you mine, try it, if it works, keep it, if not, put ur .orig back in place [15:28] sure. [15:28] manca, what if I want a user from the wheel group to be able to access /sbin? [15:29] Her0: http://pastebin.com/d522034c6 [15:30] Her0: copy it, and create a file named manager-settings.conf in your /etc/wicd/ and paste it in there [15:30] Her0: then '/etc/rc.d/rc.wicd restart' [15:30] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:31] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:31] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:32] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:32] K_Krunch then 1) chown root:wheel /sbin and 2) chmod 750 /sbin [15:32] wtf? [15:32] use sudo [15:32] and 3) read a good linux primer. these are good things to know "acls" [15:33] fuck sudo [15:33] sudo? use su -c ? [15:33] changing group ownership on /sbin is dumb [15:33] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:33] you're dumb [15:33] :O [15:33] Action: beatzz chants FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!! [15:33] nositelicense_ (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:33] Action: deco chants with beatzz fight fight fight!! [15:34] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Client Quit [15:34] ;) [15:34] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:34] Her0: where ya at buddy? [15:34] wtf would you change ownership on /sbin? [15:35] shh, he knows what he's doing [15:35] Oh.. okay.. :D [15:36] macavity_ (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:36] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [15:36] when ever I try to stream video over my homenetwork (from my servers) I can't... It downloads everything to /tmp before opening the video... how do I change it so I can stream without downloading the whole file ? [15:36] no fight here boys, i take back my comment (sorry to disappoint the blood seekers) [15:36] :'(\ [15:37] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] linXea, using mplayer, or? [15:37] Thrice: Can you explain why you disagree? [15:37] thrice`, Smplayer, mplayer VLC you name it [15:38] i would think that the real solution is to remove sudo from those who you don't want access to /sbin items or if they need certain functions then change ownership on those items only(there may be a better way than even doing that) using visudoers +wheel? [15:38] K_Krunch, the permissions are there for a reason. /sbin should be root:root . the purpose of the wheel group is typically for use with sudo, so if that's what you want, setup sudo and give people access via. the wheel group [15:39] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:39] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:40] otoh, another opinion is linux (and unix) acls are part of a good admin's toolbox, using them to fine tune your system is perfectly ok. and wheel was traditionally to allow "su". sudo is a recent invention in posix years. [15:40] Her0: ??? [15:40] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:40] beatzz: sorry, one sec. [15:41] but on these matters people can certainly differ in opinion. the "wtf" to using acl's surprised me a bit [15:41] Her0 (n=jkemp@70-5-183-42.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:42] thrice`, well, I guess I can live with my streaming issue.. Never had anything like this since slackware 8... First I thought it was dolphin thing but it's the same however you access the files you want to stream. [15:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:43] I'm concentrating on using wheel. So what would be the old school way to add /sbin to a wheel members path and to disable other users from adding /sbin to their path? [15:43] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] would this be the wrong place to ask for help with RCS, no one in #linux is very helpful lol [15:44] O_O [15:44] RCS? [15:44] red communist saints? [15:45] revision control system [15:45] ie 'ci' [15:45] is that a gang or something? [15:45] From the man page and a few tuts that I have read it says that when i invoke, 'ci someprogram.c' a RCS folder should be created and the revision deposited into it. But what happens is in my pwd a file 'someprogram.c,v' is created and the original is deleted. [15:46] ok so during the update-all i got a connection time out . _during_ as it was working just fine [15:46] house upgrade-all* [15:46] 1.) slackpkg update [15:46] from another shell right ? [15:46] 2.) slackpkg upgrade-all [15:47] 2.) slackpkg install-new* [15:47] it wont try another mirror ? [15:47] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.135.212) left irc: "leaving" [15:47] not if the mirror is commented out of /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [15:47] no need to do the slackpkg install-new after skalckpkg upgrade-all .... right ? [15:48] i commented more than one . i think 3 [15:48] just uncomment 1 [15:48] but it timed out during a package download [15:48] linXea: man slackpkg [15:48] awwwhhhhhharrrrr [15:48] house: you can only uncomment one mirror. if one doesn't work, try another. make sure it's a mirror that matches your arch too. i use the utah.edu mirror.(thats not the whole address). you have to run slackpkg update, this is why i said 'man slackpkg' [15:48] utah ftw :D [15:49] beatzz: you're from here/there? [15:49] negitive, just a good server. [15:49] its where i get my updates from. [15:49] ah, gotcha. Yes it is. :D [15:49] too bad the server is running ubuntu though. [15:49] Nick change: fuzzix__ -> fuzzix [15:49] i tried 2 mirrors that were bad :p [15:50] trying utah .... [15:50] ... [15:50] house: are you doing this as root or using sudo? [15:50] did u uncomment the mirror for the correct slackware version? [15:50] osuosl = (oregon state university) and TDS are the best two mirrors [15:51] sudo [15:52] -_- [15:52] u have sudo working, but u dont have ur mirrors set corectly? [15:52] i still havent figured out sudo... [15:52] ivan__ (n=ivan@52.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [15:52] you dont know what sudo is? [15:53] .... [15:53] not a clue.. [15:53] of course i know what sudo is... :p [15:53] infact i dont have a root pwd [15:53] if you are using sudo, you'll need /sbin in your path (i believe). [15:53] and /usr/sbin [15:53] i`m in vmware so ... no point in that [15:53] you're right agentc0re [15:54] house: export $PATH:/sbin,/usr/sbin [15:54] correct agentc0re ? [15:55] yup. [15:56] why do i need to do that ? it works .. it says it`s updating [15:56] 7m/s :D [15:56] not from utah thou .. [15:56] err, no wrong. needs :. sorry font is small on my end. [15:58] export PATH="$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin" [15:58] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:59] LOL, http://noobfarm.org/?id=1798 haha, good jerb BP{k}. :D [16:01] fire|bird: http://noobfarm.org/?id=1793 wow, you've changed since i've been gone. :P [16:01] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:02] K_Krunch (n=K_Krunch@142.177.57.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] so i will neved need to update firefox like i used to ? (check for update) i just slackpkg ? [16:03] house: ur saying u will use slackpkg to update firefox? [16:04] i`m using firefox as an example [16:04] yes i am saying that [16:04] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [16:04] house: anything thats updated on slackpkg, has been put there because Pat, has decided it should be a part of slackware [16:04] not nessisarly because its been updated [16:05] Pat , <3 [16:05] :p [16:05] wertik|afk (n=wertik@95-24-152-16.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] word, pats the man [16:06] lolwut: a RCS directory is not automatically created by ci [16:08] alienBOB, yeah the thing i was reading was poorly written, i found man 1 rcsintro and that helped me. Thanks! [16:08] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-152-16.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:11] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-152-16.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:13] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-152-16.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:13] crap, configure stuck when "checking for working mktime", reminds me of an old bug =/ [16:15] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.8.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] i remember that in kde one could modify the themes and such .. where i can find that option ? the way that the folders look and stuff [16:16] takes an autoreconf [16:16] 9/c [16:16] house, are you an addicted, curmudgeon, sociopathic doctor perhaps? [16:16] bah [16:16] rworkman: :) [16:17] no way , have you seen 6.9 ? [16:18] 6.10 just that many days away [16:18] i found where i`m customizing that :) [16:19] ivan__ (n=ivan@52.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:19] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "So long sukkas!" [16:20] what 6.9? [16:22] ++ [16:22] Camarade_Tux: i don't remember ? [16:22] the latest episode is 6.9 [16:22] deco: [16:22] do u play any mmo's? [16:23] of what? [16:23] 6.10 is in 10 days [16:23] 6.10 of the tv show house? [16:23] beatzz: nah , i don't really games anymore :/ [16:23] uhum [16:23] deco: me either,but man i miss thos days [16:23] hmm [16:23] beatzz: yeah fun days [16:23] getting son addicted to something so fun [16:23] american-centric people [16:24] Camarade_Tux: j'aim faim! [16:24] j'ai* [16:25] eat yourself :) [16:25] Camarade_Tux: i have you to eat :) [16:25] beatzz: the only game i would play is metal gearl solid [16:25] if i had the console [16:25] :o [16:26] gear* [16:26] i played that one a few times over. [16:26] never got the ninja suite,or the tux [16:26] but beat it like 10 times [16:26] beatzz: hehe, i remember when i was like 12 , beating the whole game 10 hours straight lol [16:26] there ya go [16:26] :P [16:27] heh [16:29] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [16:31] omg i think i was wrong . i think 6.10 is out and 6.11 is in 10 days [16:31] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:31] house: what TV series are you talking about? [16:31] house [16:32] figured... [16:32] so is he just crazy or what? [16:32] and the whole Dr. thing is just his delioushon? [16:32] i like the series , and i hate the whole series indusrty [16:33] they better not go metaphysical on me [16:33] haha :) you should watch it then . cause they totally dont [16:34] i want to believe there's a genius doctor with asperger's out there who can solve it all, after all, it can always be lupus [16:34] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] what`s with that lupus thing really [16:34] and the sarcoydosis thing [16:34] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [16:34] i think it's when they run out of things to write, the writers do a group huddle and invoke lupus or sarcoidosis [16:34] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] but that was like in uhm 1 and 2 series , perhaps some 3 but it`s not lupus anymore [16:35] greetings and salutations [16:35] "sh*t, what do we do now?" "just make it sarcoidosis so we can call it a night..." [16:36] and i noticed on thing , they are training the audience , if i would have seen in the 1 episone someone with yellow eyes i would have not known that they had kidney issuses but in the 6`s season when someone has yellow eyes it`s like duh .. he has kidney failure graaa [16:36] jak2009 (n=ja@189.155.196.172) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:36] sry for my bad english [16:36] or hepatic failure, as in jaundiced. have you not learned amyfing? [16:37] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] so... [16:39] todays turning out to be...prety boring.. [16:39] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [16:42] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-154-23.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:43] not sure how i feel about google's dns experiment...but i guess if they harvest traffic AND they respect the RFC it is better than the ISPs that harvest and break the RFC... [16:44] anyone watched this 1:50:00 video called "The origins of linux: [16:44] by linux trovald? [16:44] beatzz: yeah [16:44] imposter? [16:45] u know who i mean mancha .... [16:45] deco: is it worth watching? [16:45] beatzz: and you mean linus not linux :P [16:45] heh linux trovald [16:45] yea w/e [16:45] beatzz: well .... i guess so ,.... yeah [16:45] beatzz: yeah it is [16:45] mmk, im gana watch it/ [16:45] beatzz: i saw the whole thing [16:46] funny stuff [16:47] hcs91 (n=hhh76@host81-129-237-142.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:51] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521255.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:51] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:52] cable or dsl ? [16:53] Nikopol (i=nikopol@unaffiliated/nemesis128) joined ##slackware. [16:53] hcs91: dail up [16:53] too slow [16:53] for love [16:53] fail up? [16:55] what about dsl? [16:55] dial up teaches patience, removing files on xfs and compiling gcc, qt and kde too [16:55] oh, and compressing with paq8 [16:55] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Paz_ (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-149-1.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:56] i might be getting adsl2+ soon [16:57] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] I am certain that some of the noobfarm quotes are fake [16:59] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:59] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-152-16.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:00] pi31415: get a life [17:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-172.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] pi31415: which ones? [17:03] pi31415: Nope. [17:03] pi31415: some^Wseveral come from ##slackware-offtopic [17:06] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:07] Camarade_Tux: I was wrong, the channel logs show that the quote in question happened, it was just taken out of context. [17:07] fail [17:07] fail!! [17:07] pi31415: ;-) which one btw? [17:07] Camarade_Tux: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1677 [17:08] blah that was one horrible [17:08] he :P [17:08] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@20150134183.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:08] nothing like this one http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1803 [17:08] omg!!!! price of gold 1161 USD per oz!!! [17:08] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] hcs91: calm down [17:10] see ya [17:10] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-39-249.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [17:10] deco: fame ;-) [17:10] hcs91: good time to sell, not buy [17:10] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:10] Camarade_Tux: i wished fame = money :( [17:11] pi31415 the dollar is weak, i think 1999 was the best year [17:11] deco: you can maybe sell that quote [17:11] hcs91: own gold? [17:11] Camarade_Tux: hmmmm maybe [17:11] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:13] ecaz (n=ecaz@cpe-173-168-158-53.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: [17:14] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:14] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [17:14] tripFantastic (i=1000@c-68-56-215-21.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] sup tripFantastic [17:15] yes [17:15] lots [17:15] hcs91: ouch ^^ [17:15] hcs91: use it for jewelry :P [17:15] investment [17:16] alot o people think the price of oil is going up [17:16] blah [17:17] actually i has been about 13 barrels per OZ of gold for years, thats why peakoil is a scam [17:18] hahaha :P [17:18] hcs91: are you a rapper ? [17:18] proof you're american :P [17:18] no [17:18] Mefached (n=mefached@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:18] i aint an american [17:19] what are you [17:19] RJz0r (n=wafflez@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:19] ;-) [17:19] he's british ;p [17:19] y [17:19] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@142-25-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] hcs91: dont be scared [17:19] it won't hurt [17:19] and! [17:19] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@142-25-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:19] don't be ashamed [17:19] of what you are [17:19] all it takes is common sense [17:19] that's what love is actually [17:19] but it's pretty rare to see people say peak oil is a lie, it *will* happen, it has to [17:19] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] even climate change is a scam [17:20] hcs91: ++ [17:20] Camarade_Tux its a never ending resource [17:20] ok, I'm not laughing terribly loud because I have my whole family around me [17:21] Camarade_Tux: o_o you pig! [17:21] deco: this video is way over my head, but its cool to see the master speak [17:21] beatzz: hehe yeah :) [17:21] crude oil is a by-product of the extreme heat and gasses in the earths core [17:21] 400 hundreds years ago, people in France thought wood was a never ending resource [17:22] less than that, 300 [17:22] and fail: s/hundreds // [17:22] people in france eat snails.... [17:22] and they are short [17:22] ppl in .fr are smails [17:22] smnails [17:22] snails [17:22] yea [17:22] i own some french cars [17:22] deco: how tall are you? [17:23] Camarade_Tux: same as you :) 180 [17:23] deco: 181 [17:23] Camarade_Tux: stfu you said 180 and 181 last time [17:23] come again? ;-) [17:23] Camarade_Tux: not much of a difference really [17:23] wow, hes on Q&A and its not even half way over. [17:23] yeah [17:23] how tall is "180" ? [17:24] yeah, was only saying that because you said french people were short ;-) [17:24] hcs91: 5"11 [17:24] Camarade_Tux: i was jk [17:24] Camarade_Tux: :) [17:24] Camarade_Tux: have you ever eaten snails? [17:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Camarade_Tux: i know you have it big [17:24] es cargo* or w/e ? [17:24] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-207-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:24] deco: ;-) [17:24] are their shells crunchy? [17:24] house (i=house@86.123.45.158) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:25] house (i=house@86.124.211.129) joined ##slackware. [17:25] anyone think i can ssh into house's machine? [17:25] :x [17:25] lol [17:25] go for it [17:25] wa ? [17:25] beatzz: don't like that because they're made with quite a lot of garlic [17:25] beatzz: open the ports first XD :P [17:25] the truth will set you free [17:25] beatzz: you do *not* eat the shells! [17:25] lol [17:25] beatzz: no, but try his iphone... [17:26] if you can that would be great , upload some music [17:26] got alot of that for ya. [17:26] what do u listen to? [17:26] shoutcast [17:26] from dubstep to indie [17:26] ??? [17:26] mmk, cant help u there. [17:27] i got alot of country, trance, rap, rock [17:27] in that order. [17:27] rap lol [17:27] only the good stuff... [17:27] ;) [17:27] Action: deco listens to metal and pop [17:27] i bet [17:27] nwa [17:27] some [17:27] more of the stuff that came outa nwa. [17:28] dre, snoop, bone thugs..etc.. [17:28] eminem just got another album [17:28] after relapse [17:28] him too, but everything pre-encore [17:29] u from compton? [17:29] negitive. [17:30] driven down compton blvd smokin a blunt tho [17:30] ll [17:30] :D [17:30] lol* [17:30] Action: beatzz reminisis on his glory days [17:30] la? [17:30] yea, i lived in San Diego for a wile. [17:30] went up to la w/ some friends once or twice [17:31] drive around Long Beach, compton blvd, MLK blvd [17:31] just because we were two whiteboys with some herb. [17:31] :p [17:31] white? [17:32] has anyone seen 2012 ? [17:32] awsome effects [17:32] isnt marajuana illegal in USA? [17:32] havent seen it, but want to [17:32] that movie in 3D would kill you [17:32] ummm...depends... [17:33] hcs91: Federaly, yes..but the DEA director stated he was not going to prosicute state medical marijuana patients. [17:33] :) [17:34] RJz0r (n=wafflez@3.sub-75-250-56.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [17:35] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [17:38] how many people use kde in slack ? [17:38] <- on my laptop. [17:39] house: me. [17:39] house: me [17:39] me [17:39] so, we're all counted. [17:39] hcs91 (n=hhh76@host81-129-237-142.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) left ##slackware. [17:40] i use [17:41] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.32) left irc: [17:41] xlordt (n=xlordt@24.55.70.98) left irc: "Leaving" [17:41] house: i use it where appropriate [17:42] On a server i use no X. For slim X on a server i manually start fluxbox, for my work Desktop and home media centre i use kde4 [17:44] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:45] how far do you go into customising it ? [17:45] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [17:45] i made the window decorations i use, =P [17:47] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:51] vdsy (n=vdsy@S0106001eec034452.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:55] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-77-154.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:00] vdsy (n=vdsy@S0106001eec034452.cg.shawcable.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:01] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:01] what is that new torrent site [18:02] what torrent site ? [18:03] you wants warez ? [18:03] or slackwarez [18:03] somebody in here posted a url to some new torrent site earlier today [18:04] Ephedrax (i=zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:04] Ephedrax (i=zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] if I do a for loop in bash how can I grep the output? [18:05] for blah; do command | grep whatever; done; doesn't seem to work as does or blah; do command; done; | grep whatever doesn't as well [18:08] house: as much as i feel like [18:08] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-136-13.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:08] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [18:09] i`m getting gnome right now :D [18:09] house: not much.. different mouse position shortcuts.. addition of a few widgets [18:09] house: way to fail [18:09] i hate the kde start bar thing [18:09] :( [18:09] so remove it [18:10] Wescotte: the first one is what you want [18:10] i need it but dislike the way it is served , takes up the whole tale :) [18:10] *table [18:10] hrm i got a gtk theme which is a binary and i dont have the slightest clue how to install that [18:10] Wescotte: for i in 1 2 3 4; do echo $i | grep 2;done [18:11] for each one, echo is executed and piped into grep.. if the grep matches, it prints [18:11] house: table? 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[18:50] ea_suter (n=easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:51] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/VHfsAG26.html [18:51] lol [18:52] worth typeing out by hand acidchild ? [18:52] into my laptops brower? [18:53] no. [18:53] no [18:54] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [18:54] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30AAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:57] hi folks [18:58] hello [18:58] I've been searching the net for a while now about setup up partitions for a server (having separate partitions for /var /home, etc) however most of them are pretty old and I'm not sure if they apply with todays faster disks. Does anyone know a good howto on this subject? Or can make some suggestions from experience? [18:59] I'm going to create a slackware 13.0 server with raid-1 setup [18:59] the hard-drives are 2 1TB sata-II with 32MB of cache [19:00] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:00] you should get 2more tb hdds and set up a raid 5 [19:01] um i i have set up a seprate / /boot /var /usr and /home [19:01] hi [19:01] ello' [19:01] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:01] this internet is terrible ;< [19:02] 2000ms ping time ;< [19:02] better than dial up still [19:03] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:03] thanks toastytoas, but my budget is for raid-1 [19:03] mmm maybe, i am traveling like 80km/h atm [19:03] so its prett sweet. [19:03] SSH is so very laggy [19:04] despiron (n=despiron@187.64.20.168) left irc: Client Quit [19:05] Nick change: macavity_ -> macavity [19:08] acidchild, we still need to develop better technology for high speed/quality internet pr0n for mobile devices aeuhaeuhaeuhae [19:09] someone said that installing gnome changes everything . why ? [19:09] house: most gnome builds/packages require PAM.. which is a rather invasive operation to slackware [19:10] and PAM does what ? [19:10] i heard something about too invasive instalation, but never saw for myself [19:10] these one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluggable_Authentication_Modules [19:11] house: google it :P [19:11] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [19:11] house: "linux PAM" [19:11] its todo with your login, passwords usernames, things that happen when you login. [19:11] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:12] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [19:12] i tried both "bad" and "evil" [19:13] nothing [19:13] Anyone know how/why in konsole that when I'm on the last line of the screen typing it wraps around and overwrites the old text rather than displaying a new line? It's really annoying when you need to backup and erase something as it gets all jumbled [19:13] i fucking hate women, god fucking damn [19:13] greetings [19:13] Wescotte, that happens to me as well, but in kde 3.5.10. didnt saw on 4.x yet [19:14] acidchild: ++ [19:14] hate women? [19:14] acidchild, -- [19:14] seriously, i just took my girlfriend on a weekend trip to montreal, payed for everything [19:14] and some girl hits on me on the train, and now shes pissed at me [19:14] i didn't even speak [19:14] Wescotte: I don't know the cause, but it happens to me when I make the terminal too wide. Try dragging it narrower (less columns) and see if it stops. [19:14] what do i do to deserv this// [19:14] house: it is a matter of philosophy.. personally i think it is a plus that slackware does not have/use PAM, but others disagree [19:14] house: we will, however, eventually need it no matter what [19:15] i didn't even flirt with the girl, i just responded. [19:15] SpacePlod: yeah I noticed that too..not exactly the solution I was looking for :( [19:15] Inacio (i=1000@206.94.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [19:15] Wescotte: sorry...that's all i got. [19:15] is it a matter of spilling sensitive information ? [19:15] can it be a backdoor for something ? [19:16] SpacePlod: at least it's sorta a fix :) thanks though [19:16] no, pam is safe. its just a diffrent way to skin and stuff the cat [19:16] Wescotte: fwiw, that happens in xfce and used to happen to me in gnome-terminal too. I dont' think it's a KDE thing. Probably just a term emulation thing. [19:19] SpacePlod: I've let it go for too long :) time to get to the bottom of it [19:19] house: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-introduction.html [19:19] house: the road to enlightenment [19:19] i`m taking that now [19:20] Wescotte: try the 'reset' command and try again [19:20] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:21] i`m not scared , that`s good [19:21] has anybody been having trouble with ndiswarper 1.55 on slack64 13, kernel 2.6.31.x ? I got it installed using the build script at sbo, and the module loads fine, and ndiswarper -i /path/to/driver executes fine, but no new network device appears on my system [19:22] I think the problem might be related to your $TERM setting. At least I remember sometime in the past having had a similar problem and it being fixed that way. [19:22] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:25] nnyby (n=nybnik10@ada.evergreen.edu) left irc: Client Quit [19:28] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:28] teckan (n=teckan@bl6-114-1.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:34] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[20:00] hehe, the women world [20:00] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:01] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [20:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifl1lmsNgt8 [20:05] beatzz: you are the most disturbed person i have ever met.... [20:05] beatzz: nice lol [20:05] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.135.212) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:06] i actually enjoyed that vid [20:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] u should watch the full speed video. [20:07] youtube "dancing ferret" [20:08] deco: ok.. i see we have an heir to the throne ;-) [20:08] beatzz, ehh...sucks [20:09] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [20:09] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9MZNEXrElw [20:10] beatzz, anyways, it looks like a very lame rip off of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP_tfVGKxdE [20:10] beatzz, not there [20:11] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [20:11] macavity: :o [20:11] dancing ferret > dancing cat [20:11] deco, what do you think? [20:11] kitty cat >> dancing ferret [20:12] edman007: cats all the way baby! :P [20:12] \o/ [20:12] htwww.badgerbadgerbadger.com [20:12] http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com [20:13] i remember about 8 or 10 years ago that "dancing babys" thing came out, and ever since then thousands of variations with many different animals have copy catted it [20:14] beatzz, i have always liked http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/ over badgerbadger [20:14] watching cops, whacha gunna do? whacha gunna do when they come for you, bad boys [20:14] http://www.getonmyhorse.com/ is also pretty good [20:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q&feature=player_embedded [20:15] that guy makes a lot of great songs... [20:15] .. while being on the topic of totally silly :P [20:15] macavity, awesome! [20:15] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:15] edman007: i found it on lolcode.com :P [20:16] Sadnem (n=sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [20:17] http://picard.ytmnd.com [20:17] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [20:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsU3BOW3TMs [20:18] ^ is actuly kinda cool, not funny [20:19] just when u think its getting good it cuts loose and go's super nuts [20:19] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [20:19] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:20] can't access that either... [20:20] RJz0r (n=wafflez@3.sub-75-250-56.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsU3B0W3TMs [20:20] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:20] O = 0 my bad [20:21] beatzz, that makes me sick [20:21] just listen, its tight [20:22] my left ear fell off 15 seconds in [20:23] RJz0r (n=wafflez@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] Hi, i can't install any slackbuild on slackware 13.0 64 bits, even though im using the . /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh command but i keep getting errors [20:24] do i hace to do sth else? [20:24] have* [20:24] yes, set the arch to x86_64 [20:24] that's ALL you have to do, actually [20:24] holy crap im bored. [20:25] im going to sleep. gn all. [20:25] see ya beatzz [20:26] nn beatzz [20:26] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "zZzzzZZzz" [20:27] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:28] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:29] woohoo! [20:29] dictionary.google.com [20:29] WTG GOOGLE! [20:30] look, they even have the definition of macavity: http://www.google.com/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&q=megalomaniac&hl=en [20:30] Thank you thrice` now it works like a charm [20:31] Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats [20:31] oh well.. that one too :P [20:31] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Success [20:31] Sadnem, awesome :) to save time, I have a /usr/local/bin/build which has: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ZC14wm79.html . then, I just type "build" and it does the rest :) [20:33] thrice`: funny how four small lines can enhance your e-penis that much, huh? :P [20:33] nah, just saves time from typing ARCH="x86_64" every time :) [20:33] my e-penis is probably pretty small ;) [20:34] wow pretty awesome [20:34] thanks ;) [20:34] sure thing [20:38] thrice`: export ARCH="x86_64" in rc.local? :P [20:41] macavity, attempt the graphics update? :) [20:41] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [20:42] sinkigobopo_ (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) joined ##slackware. [20:42] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:42] macavity, rc.local? [20:43] have you heard of /etc/profile.d ? [20:43] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:43] edman007: i like overkill solutions [20:44] sounds more like fail to me [20:44] edman007: hence my motto: "only bring a knife to a fistfight if you happen to be out of axes" [20:45] Action: edman007 prefers extended range weapons [20:47] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:47] Action: macavity preferes to tackle the fridge really hard.. right now [20:50] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-199-225.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:50] fuck.. i forgot to buy bread :-/ [20:50] teckan (n=teckan@bl6-114-1.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [20:52] bobby (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-228-114.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] Hello People. [20:52] waaaa....slackware is broke.... [20:52] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] I mean, can anyone help me in determining if the default dhcp client can be set in slackware? [20:54] I set up the rc.inet1 script to connect to my wifi, it works. but the IP is receives is not the correct one that is assigned to the MAC address in the router. I did troubleshoot that here a few days ago and it was determined that dhcpcd retrieves the incorrect IP but dhclient works fine. [20:54] so is there a configuration where it can be set to use dhclient for the dhcp client? [20:54] Bye [20:54] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [20:55] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521255.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [20:55] bobby: rc.inet1 uses dhcpcd, period [20:55] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:55] macavity: wait, I see that in teh script. I guess I can backup the script and modify it. [20:55] is there any way to tell the cas level of memory from linux ? [20:56] bobby: look in /etc/dhcpc/ [20:56] bobby: that is, i suspect what your real question is "how do i make dhcpcd request a specific IP address", right? [20:57] snL20: dmidecode i think [20:57] macavity: ok cool [20:58] macavity: I worked with a few folks here and we determine that the dhcpcd request to the router gets whatever is the next available IP. But when dhclient, the router assigns the IP that is configured in the router to assign to this MAC address. [20:58] macavity: a newer version of dhcpcd on gentoo doesn't have that issue. So I change my wifi script to use dhclient. [20:58] until someone mentioned that they configure everything in rc.inet1. [21:01] good night :) i`m out [21:01] house (i=house@86.124.211.129) left irc: "Leaving" [21:02] bobby: that sounds strange.. [21:02] bobby: unless your router is idiotic, it should just hand out the freaking IP adress according the the MAC adresss table [21:03] macavity: yeah it did. I was not able to determine why the dhcpcd gets the next available IP from router while dhclient gets the correct one. but meh. as long as something works right? [21:03] dhcpcd accepts whatever address it is given [21:03] i think your router is borked.. [21:03] right. I'm just thinking this older version of dhcpcd is probably reporting something that is incomplete for the router. [21:03] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-096-211.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [21:03] it's a netgear... [21:03] the router does not get the MAC adress from dhcpcd [21:03] so it probably is doing something non-standard [21:04] it gets it from the requeste packet header [21:04] interesting. [21:04] that is, the header the kernel sticks on it before it issues it [21:04] Action: macavity looks up DHCP [21:05] well, all I know is that the newer dhcpcd works fine but the older one on slack doesn't work. So as long as my local network routing isn't messed up.... I don't mind using dhclient. [21:06] macavity: doesnt specifically say cas but nice to know you can get some info =) [21:06] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:06] bobby, well, rc.inet1, as you can see, specifically calls dhcpcd, so you'd have to change everything in there [21:06] yup, DHCP requests/responses is issued via UDP [21:06] thrice`: he wants to change it to dhclient [21:07] ah, miss read that [21:08] thrice`: well, there's only one reference to it. I've changed it. [21:08] now I'll run it and brb. [21:08] bobby: have you seen that you cant turn rc.inet1 in verbose mode? [21:08] then you can see the chitchatter over the line [21:09] and see what your router offers etc [21:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:09] \o/ [21:09] its the antiwire! :-D [21:10] yo [21:11] extor (n=extor@c-98-193-85-83.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:11] anything new in the ether? [21:11] bobby (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-228-114.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:11] bobby (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-228-114.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] Hello People. [21:11] ok, that worked [21:12] it uses dhclient and gets the correct IP. [21:12] nope, I'm running 2.6.32 now but I have no hardware to play with AP mode right now [21:12] aww [21:12] i was reading about PAM just before [21:12] only if it was as ...... "simple" as ubuntu. would have had no clue where to change it. [21:12] credo (n=credo@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:13] PAM is cool [21:13] who is pam? [21:13] I think we'll get PAM eventually [21:13] if Slackware ever goes PAM i hope that rc.[S/M] makes a check that at least /etc/pam.d/other.conf exist :P [21:13] juuuust in case :P [21:14] bobby: pam isn't a person, it's pluggable authentication modules. [21:14] pam is hot [21:14] fire|bird: I guess that was my way of asking what it is :). I noticed the capital letters and knew it's some software thing. [21:15] pluggable authentication modules help in using swappable authentication modules? So you can use differnt modules? like what? [21:15] bobby: google is your friend :P [21:15] bobby: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-module-reference.html [21:15] bobby: like signing into your system with a fringerprint reader or smartcard. [21:16] fingerprint* [21:16] I've made that work for xdm and cli runlevels [21:16] of course, google is everybody's friend. :) just helps to ask in an interactive place. I have learnt more over the last year by asking. :) [21:16] you could even hook up an action game.. and people cant get in untill they reach level 10 ;-) [21:16] Action: chopp gives antiwire the fringer. :P [21:16] the fringer? [21:17] is that a french singer? [21:17] see above [21:17] macavity: there's a big link... [21:17] :) [21:17] fried finger, he meant. [21:17] if you ever saw pam, you'd know how pluggable she is [21:17] hey mancha how's it going. [21:18] i really have to object to fingerprint scanners as a way to protect confidential data, that's just begging for pain..."Igor *please* sever my thumb" [21:18] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:18] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:19] hey bobby mcgee [21:19] hehe, is that one of them janis joplin songs? [21:20] she made it famous [21:20] It's not going to stop a *real* attack but it will make is easier for you to login with people over your shoulder [21:21] I like good old fashioned 20 character passwords. [21:21] i just use my username for my password, one less thing to remember [21:21] awesome [21:21] lol. [21:21] so what's your username? [21:22] "mancha" :P [21:22] great.... [21:22] my username is dhsh634727%%#$@6shhh!! [21:22] where do you bank? [21:22] mancha: that is the time when you luuub tilde expation :P [21:23] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [21:23] it's all overrated anyways, protect out the ass meanwhile someone mitms your ssl, renegotiates your bank, differentials your stream, mic cracks your ssh key, watermarks your aes [21:23] etc [21:23] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) joined ##slackware. [21:24] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [21:24] bobby, reminds me, today i tried to login to my citi account....i have decided i HATE citi, they are a bank and give me a website that requires IE, does not even render in FF or Safari, and then when i register they tell me even my simple password is crap because it is over 9 characters [21:24] lol [21:24] and I can't take my business elsewhere :/ [21:25] Action: macavity gets to work at citibank.com [21:25] lol. [21:25] oh and not to mention, you have no clue if www.citibank.com is really citibank [21:25] sometimes, we're stuck with things.... [21:25] dns poisoning and all that jazz [21:25] like I feel stuck with FF on linux. but there's no better browser. [21:25] edman007: i'l jump in with my 2 cents: get a account with a credit union. big banks are greedy scum [21:25] bobby: i thought Chrome was out for GNU/Linux by now? [21:25] but requiring one browser is kinda not cool. [21:26] macavity: there's chromium, and google-chrome is on SBo. [21:26] kingbeowulf, like i said, i can't, I am required to use the card for work, and I have no other options for it [21:26] macavity: yeah chrome is out. Google already has their new opensuse spawn out with chrome. [21:26] sure dnssec purports to help with integrity, but its broken moreso than regular dns [21:26] edman007: yeah saw tat after I hit "enter" [21:26] mancha, SSL provides checking... [21:26] bummer [21:26] DNSSEC is ghetto [21:26] SSL mode is better [21:26] edman, oh ok, so you're set. just don't come crying to me when they take your millions [21:27] lol, if he had millions do you think he'd be managing them himself? [21:27] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: "Got some milk stuck in my teeth" [21:27] the worst thing you can do in security is take the position that "with xyz we're safe" [21:27] he'd get a manager and hope that his manager doesn't steal like Nicholas Cage's manager. [21:27] cause time and time again, what weve learned is that's a sure fire way to get bitten on the ass [21:27] i still remember when everyone was singing md2's praises [21:27] chromium rocks. it's so fast in comparison to firefox [21:27] slackbuilds.org query - anyone notice that anything linked to linux1394.org is dead? whois showed domain for sale [21:28] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:28] might move to chrome. [21:28] not that I want to stop this fascinating browser discussion.... [21:28] bobby, this card happens to have rules that no business could ever get, the terms of the card read like a dream, they basically can't screw me over.... [21:28] business expense card? [21:29] doesn't chromium bleed your private info all over the place? [21:29] you gotta be careful with anything google. they're in the information colelcting business. [21:29] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left ##slackware. [21:29] Sadnem (n=sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:29] libraw1394 and libiec61883 were hosted there (kino requirements) [21:30] bobby, kinda, 0% interest, late is 3+ months past due, no fees, 6+ months before they can do anything, they can deduct from your pay but can't touch your credit [21:31] our is only 60 days before late. But company pays directly so it gets paid before it's late. plus the standard insurance on rental cars bla blah blah. [21:31] hehe, me no care so much. [21:32] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:32] it just sucks because i can't check the card with linux [21:33] interesting. I haven't tried checking it in linux. I have a personal card with citi. [21:33] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [21:33] I now I used to use Chrome for checking it and it worked. [21:33] i've only used chrome on windows at work, and wasn't that impressed :( [21:33] now I use IE8. since IE8, on winers, I don't see a better browser. [21:34] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [21:34] chrome was faster than ie7, 'coz ie7 was like slow as cow. [21:34] thrice`: you didn't find it faster than other browsers? [21:34] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:34] perhaps marginally at best [21:34] actually chrome was faster than any other browser I had used. until ie8. chrome and ie8 are the same speed. [21:34] firefox, on windows anyway, works pretty well for me [21:36] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-199-225.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:36] firefox is 1. not google 2. works plenty good enough [21:37] the speed difference are VERY marginal at best. [21:37] ff3 is pretty decent in speed. [21:37] 2 was horrible. [21:37] they have really improved speed like they claim. [21:38] maybe chrome loads a page in 1.1 seconds instead of 1.2 for firefox. I don't see it, anyway :> [21:38] I think it's google marketing [21:38] i still find ff3.5 to be a cow. opening new browser seems to take forever. opening new tabs is slower. it seems much heavier [21:38] hey...just noted that kernal.org hosts the firewire libs i'm looking. Thanks for the help ;-) [21:38] thrice`, chrome is using khtml, and the benches I have seen on them say its very very fast, but it is also a lot harder to bench because the javascript can actually read rendered properties of the page before they are actually rendered [21:39] edman007, khtml? I think it's webkit [21:39] How can I setup multiple monitors with their own desktops. When I use xrandr to enable the VGA output on my notebook it's just a duplicate of my LCD [21:39] thrice`, yup [21:39] webkit/khtml are basically the same [21:39] ananke: I have ff 3.5.5 on Slack64-13 and slamd64 and it not that slow. [21:39] I just don't wanna use FF. If necessary, FF3 is good. [21:39] forked and merged i think [21:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [21:40] it began as khtml, but has since evolved. I think khtml is slower by comparison ? [21:40] kingbeowulf: on any workstation i use it on it's noticably slower. by a few seconds [21:42] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] ff 3.5 has been near-instant for me, especially on windows. 3.6 is supposed to be even better [21:42] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3121D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:42] I also like ff3 on winders [21:42] ananke: then your workstation must be slower than my AMD64 3000+ 1GB DRAM hobby machine [21:42] prudy fast. [21:43] *purdy [21:43] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:44] thrice`: i'm hoping that ff is going to get better, thanks to the competition on the market. windows has quite a few decent options for browsers these days [21:45] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] test34 (n=test34@c-69-244-245-20.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] with browsers, my main concern is standards compliance as in acid3 test [21:46] id rather they all failed acid3, but had no "extentions" to HTML [21:46] I just care about the security padlock and the speed. lol. [21:47] unfortunately IE both fails acid3 yet has a shitload of undocumented html extentions/perversions [21:47] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:47] i want it to work with the pages i visit, and be responsive :) [21:47] but really netscape is what start the deviation and html extension saga back in the day. [21:47] I rather like using dillo.. when the website isn't broken and doesn't require SSL [21:48] dillo still doesn't do ssl? what is it, 1985? [21:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:51] dillo has --enable-ssl , did you try that? [21:52] http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q12 [21:52] it does have that, but it still doesn't really like it when you try it [21:53] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:53] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:59] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30AAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:03] anyone know about gpsd? just curious if i can use CDMA location GPS on my HTC diamond and expore that information to my laptop. [22:03] export* [22:04] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [22:04] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:147) left irc: "Leaving" [22:05] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:06] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:12] acidchild: I used gpsd a long while back. it takes most anything that spits out the right data via serial [22:16] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [22:19] ah, my phone is connected via USB. [22:19] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210ad.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:20] well, can you get gpsd to accept the input? a lot of such things show as a usb-serial adapter [22:20] as long as you can point gpsd to the right port and it see some version of a gps protocol it understands [22:20] i dont know really. i'm trying to look at dmesg/lsusb etc to see what its showing up as :-0 [22:21] i know it shows up as mass storage, but it might come up as something else also. [22:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [22:25] andarius: any idea how i check to see if it opens a ttySO? [22:27] not off hand. it should show in the dmesg output I thought [22:29] bobby (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-228-114.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:29] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) left irc: "Landru! Guide us!" [22:29] good night all [22:29] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) joined ##slackware. [22:29] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:33] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:37] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [22:37] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:40] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [22:43] Kamel- (n=1@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:58] i should reiterate that...it runs compiz but it wont run emerald [22:58] #! /bin/sh [22:58] compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & [22:58] emerald --replac [22:58] that would help [22:58] replace & [22:58] thats how i run it [22:58] hmm [22:58] #! /bin/sh [22:58] compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & [22:58] emerald --replace & [22:58] Channel flood from crashdata -- kicking [22:58] there. [22:58] crashdata kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [22:58] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] lolz [22:59] i got it, no need to repaste [22:59] nwayz yah...any idea? [22:59] how is it being ran? [22:59] with what startup method [22:59] initrc? [22:59] i linked it in the startup application [22:59] for gnome [22:59] harls (n=gabba@pool-173-69-205-71.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] are you sure you linked the script itself [23:00] compiz run just the 2nd part doesnt ran [23:00] emerald doesnt load [23:00] for some reason [23:00] are you sure that you linked the startup script and not compiz [23:00] yah... [23:00] umm emerald does not exist anymore more I thought [23:00] is it a symlink? [23:00] it does.. [23:01] i have no clue abotu that, i don't use either [23:01] i got it at Gslap package manager [23:01] ahh.... [23:01] is there another way to [23:01] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] aside from using hte gnome startup program? [23:01] yes, there is another way to have it startup automatically, with init level 5 [23:01] but [23:01] it may depend on other things to be running [23:02] which may be why it's malfunctioning [23:02] well it used to work [23:02] i reinstalled compiz already [23:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:02] there may have been some minor changes happen that changed the startup order, causing it to try to startup without the proper dependencies being started first [23:03] I recently installed awn manager [23:03] similar to cairo dock [23:03] my point is, try making it wait to startup [23:04] not sure if wait is a valid command [23:04] what do u mean wait to startup? [23:05] what i mean is, make the program intentionally wait say 5 seconds then start [23:05] gotcha... [23:05] and see if that helps [23:05] actually [23:05] initially make it wait like a whole minute [23:05] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:05] just to see if that fixes it at all [23:05] that takes forever lolz [23:05] then lower it to a quick time [23:06] of course, i don't remember how to do that =\ [23:06] maybe cron would do the trick [23:06] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:06] when emerald doesnt load what's happening is i'm missing hte title bar [23:06] for my programs [23:07] ... what i'm trying to say is to test, make it wait for a whole minute [23:07] then wait the minute [23:07] see if it starts properly [23:07] if it does [23:07] test confirmed [23:07] if it does not [23:08] no sense in making it wait any amount of time [23:08] understand... [23:08] but i don't know how to do that, it's been too long [23:08] no worries.... [23:08] i'm pretty sure its somewhere in google :) [23:10] also one question [23:10] I added a local user into a group [23:10] but i had to restart the system for it to take effect [23:10] crashdata: no, you need to log off completely. [23:10] the local user needs to log off completely [23:10] then re log back in? [23:10] yes. [23:11] ahh no need to restart? [23:11] no. [23:11] ahh ok [23:11] thanks for the info [23:13] thumbs i'll try pause and wait :) [23:13] ok. [23:13] for that script...might just work [23:15] brb [23:15] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:15] gotta test it [23:15] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:16] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:16] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC3121D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:20] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:21] so the amd lawsuit had to deal mainly with notebooks pretty much it seems? [23:22] what lawsuit? [23:23] amd vs intel [23:23] hmh.. must have missed it [23:23] intel strong-arming the OEMs to buy intel chips exclusivly [23:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:23] ea_suter (n=easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) left irc: "leaving" [23:23] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3121D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:26] this is kitche lool http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Ordinateur/0004.gif [23:27] i wish links -g would support animated gif [23:29] actualyl I m reading my Comptia mail I knew about the whole OEM thing just did not really think it was mainly about notebooks as AMD sees it anyways [23:31] both desktops & laptops [23:33] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:34] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Titanium_Man (n=Titanium@124-171-68-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:35] meh see mroe AMD desktops then intel around here really [23:37] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:37] in my neck of the woods I see very few amd systems [23:38] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.59) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:40] rhys (n=quassel@c-67-184-74-158.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] Hello ladies and bishes. [23:40] the only place i see AMD systems on equal ground is at places for do-it-yourselfers like newegg.com [23:42] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] i would imagine that since that amd/intel lawsuit played out in favour of amd that OEMs are starting to include amd systems more [23:43] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [23:44] i was shocked and disapointed at the blunder amd made when buying ati video [23:44] that blunder is helping keep them afloat [23:44] amd has been seeing a decreasing market share ever since the core2 line [23:45] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [23:45] now that atom is dominating the portables... things look even worse [23:45] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:46] << k-lined lool [23:46] i think it nvidia would have been a better choice, if nvidia would have went along with a merger [23:47] considering their position (nvs) I would not like any sort of merger with intel or amd [23:47] I am amazed ati did [23:48] amd needed a graphics unti to compete with intel integrated CPU/chipsets. Nvidia has its own GPU/CPU integrationplans [23:48] between the to video companies i like nvidia's video (especially on linux) [23:48] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [23:48] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:49] yeah, i can see that amd needed ati because of intel's setup [23:49] why doesnt matrox have a bigger market share? [23:50] ecause aside from multi-head they are no competition [23:51] matrox still alve? [23:51] is their video cards any good? i see a lot of matrox entries when i used to run xorgconfig or xf86config [23:51] back when xfree86 was common [23:52] they are out there. they only seem to do multi-head well last I heard. as far as performance they are no where near ati or nv [23:53] looks like they have a niche market fro multi monitor and video encoding (from web site) [23:53] matrox mainly does multihead really anymore anyways from what I m seeing off their site [23:53] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] multi-head is their specialty then [23:54] they have a card that can do eight monitors [23:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] mwnn (n=user@59.92.156.150) joined ##slackware. [23:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-96-181.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:54] the only place i can see using something like that would be a television station for their news programs or someting like that [23:55] costs 2,000 USD to buy it for the big card anyways 300 for the cheap version [23:56] Hi, I am using the xfce desktop on slackware 13.0. The thunderbird app does not seem to be using font settings used be the rest of the apps. In particular, the menu and tool bar fonts are huge. [23:56] well, its sleepytime for me, laters folks, hope your weekend is going well [23:56] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [23:57] mwnn: try gtk-qt-engine [23:57] kingbeowulf: ok [23:57] ok qtcurve ;) [23:57] or * [23:57] or adjust font sizes in preferences [23:58] kingbeowulf: The preferences dialog lets me configure the fonts used for displaying messages. Not for configuring the fonts for toolbar and menubar. 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