[00:00] What about now? [00:00] since the cd rom is commented it out it confused me. [00:00] This isn't exactly a long drawn-out process. [00:00] s|isn't|shouldn't be| [00:01] It's commented out because desktop users tend to prefer to let their desktop environment handle mounting of removable media. If your user is a member of the plugdev group and you're using kde or xfce, that should work for you. [00:01] If you're trying to do it from the command line, then you'll want to uncomment that line in /etc/fstab. [00:02] If you want to mount it as a normal user, then you'll need to see fstab(5) to find out what that "owner" option does and then see which option you actually want. [00:05] k i ll try it as root to see if it works. thx. [00:05] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:06] "see if it works" <-- as if it's a matter of probability [00:09] well, to him it's an unknown, so I guess that makes it a matter of probability as far as he can tell [00:12] wait! you mean this stuff doesn't run off pixie dust and voodoo? [00:13] BrunoTheDwarf (i=1000@home.dwarven.com) joined ##slackware. [00:13] hi, my /dev/video0 has gone away, and I'd like it back, can anyone help me get it back? [00:15] brunothedwarf : do you have to load a kernel module? [00:15] BrunoTheDwarf: what was the last thing you did? [00:15] BrunoTheDwarf: upgrade? [00:15] I just did a kernel update [00:16] I suspected that might have been what broke it [00:16] so i rolled back to the older kernel [00:16] I have tried reloading the driver (spcaview) [00:17] I've heard reports that it's broken for some people in 2.6.29.x, but others have said it's fine [00:17] Do you have the node when running the older kernel? [00:18] thats what i thought might have been the case, so i rolled back to 2.6.15.10 [00:18] a node? [00:18] antiwire: No, it's one or the other. :P [00:18] lol [00:18] BrunoTheDwarf: the /dev/video0 device node [00:19] antiwire: once you use both you lose /dev/mind and go /dev/random [00:19] no, thats what I have lost rworkman :( [00:19] BrunoTheDwarf: so it's not there with 2.6.15.x either? [00:20] not anymore [00:20] hrm [00:20] I used to have it [00:20] and I thought I managed to bring it back - but then it vanished again :( [00:21] yay! game works! thanks, Urchlay. Its really laggy, but I think thats another issue with slackware, so i dont think its liquidwars fault there. :) [00:22] stealth-: Issue with slackware using beta software? hrm. [00:23] I'm going through w3c schools SQL and the MySQL site's tutorials now. [00:23] BrunoTheDwarf: hrm, no idea :/ I've never messed with any of that sort of hardware :/ [00:23] Then I have to teach myself how to make php spit out information from my test database [00:23] Bruno: What kind of hardware are you trying to use? [00:23] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:24] logitech quickcam [00:24] and what does dmesg say when you connect it? [00:24] BrunoTheDwarf: It's usb, correct? [00:24] agentc0re: no, every graphical application I run in slackware has been increadibly laggy since ive installed. I belive its a issue with slackware setting me up with the wrong driver for my ATI card. Someone else on a forum had the same issue as me. No big deal though, sounds easy enough to fix ;) [00:25] BrunoTheDwarf: what do you see with lsusb before and after you insert it? [00:26] dmesg sees it, lsusb sees it [00:27] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "leaving" [00:27] and it shows up in alsamixer too [00:27] everyting, but the video driver for it loads up fine [00:28] yeah, it is stealth- [00:29] BrunoTheDwarf: it is what? [00:29] BrunoTheDwarf: nothing in syslog / messages? No error messages in dmesg? [00:30] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [00:30] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 [00:30] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [00:30] Channel flood from BrunoTheDwarf -- kicking [00:30] for dmesg [00:30] BrunoTheDwarf kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:31] aww..... [00:31] BrunoTheDwarf (i=1000@home.dwarven.com) joined ##slackware. [00:31] stealth-: I believe that you are miss informed. First off, slackware comes with three open sourced ati drivers, radeon, radeonhd and ati (i believe. i may be wrong it's been a while since looking up ati drivers). during setup YOU told it which one to do, assuming you actually followed http://slackbook.org to setup the rest of your system correctly. This is usually missed by most new people. Depending on the application and [00:31] woops [00:31] BrunoTheDwarf: pastebin.com :D [00:31] Bruno: Pastebin dmesg result from when you insert your web-cam [00:32] agentc0re: well im not blaming slackware, no need to get defensive ;P I assume when stuff messes up its my fault, im just saying its not a issue with my game. [00:34] http://pastebin.com/d22a18706 [00:34] stealth-: I read it as if you were. http://slackbook.org/html/book.html#X-WINDOW-SYSTEM [00:34] hmm, is that it? [00:35] agentc0re: well sorry for giving you the wrong idea, then. Does slackware have a r128 driver? [00:35] stealth-: fwiw, i am not trying to insult you or be an ass either. [00:35] if you happen to know.... [00:35] stealth-: which driver did you choose? [00:35] stealth-: man ati/radeon/radeonhd it's listed in one of them. [00:36] twolf: well in my original conf file it had "versa" but I am going to try r128 [00:36] agentc0re: k [00:36] stealth-: or use ATI's closed source driver. I don't know too much about it, but from what i remember a couple years back when i had a ATI card the open sourced drivers had great 2d performance and poor 3d, closed source had good 3d but poor 2d. [00:36] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Hi Rat409 [00:37] hey firebird619 get pek running ok? [00:37] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:37] unfortunately ati has dropped support for a lot of cards with their proprietary drivers [00:37] agentc0re: well I'll probably be more of a 2d person, so ill start with that one. [00:37] Rat409: No, something's messed up with it. The themes would set, but there were no window borders at all. [00:37] whoops brb forgot to do something [00:38] twolf: yes, from what I read the card is no longer supported [00:38] my laptop is only 2 years old and they have dropped support [00:38] I used to be optimistic for the the outlook with ati cards but I will stick with nvidia from now on [00:39] firebird619: play with window decor settings right-click titlebar or check menu [00:39] brb [00:39] as you can see from the pastebin, dmesg doesn't give any errors when I plug in the camera [00:40] stealth-: you will want to change your xorg.conf from, "Driver "vesa"" to "Driver "ati"" or look at that link i gave you and walk through the setup process and choose ATI. Besure to run that as root. [00:40] Bruno: Just a few stupid questions; Have you tried different USB ports? Have you got any other USB devices connected? Have you got VMWare running? [00:40] yes, tried other ports, yes have other usb device (usb sound card) [00:40] BrunoTheDwarf: actually, that dmesg *does* indicate an error. No driver is binding the device [00:41] Bruno: Well it notices that you connect a USB device, but it doesn't register the device and doesn't load any driver [00:41] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:41] agentc0re: okay, thanks. Ill probably use that cause my method isnt exactly working, lol [00:41] BrunoTheDwarf: and the device doesn't appear after you modprobe spcaview? [00:41] I do have virtualbox installed (but not being used though) [00:42] stealth-: You should read the book. Or start from where you are after the install to get a good grasp of things. [00:42] BrunoTheDwarf: try a 2.6.28.x kernel [00:42] 2.6.15.x may be too early to have support [00:42] tried with 2.6.28.10 [00:43] agentc0re: the whole thing? isnt that kinda pointless? I have a intermidiate knowledge of linux already. [00:43] it was working perfectly with 2.6.15 before [00:43] I can remove virtualbox if you think it will help [00:44] BrunoTheDwarf: It won't help. The reason I asked is VMWare can be configured (by default?) to automatically attach connected USB devices. THat means it "steals" focus and you can't see the device on your host. I don't know about vbox, but if it is not running you are safe [00:45] stealth-: But yet you didn't know some basic things about your own video card and how to correctly add it in the xorg.conf. I'm not your parent, do as you wish. I was just trying to help. [00:46] agentc0re: I know. I like to jump into projects and learn my way from there though. Im normally not this bad with xorg.conf but im used to ubuntu were its done for you. [00:46] the training wheels are gone, son [00:46] BrunoTheDwarf: sounds like something in userspace has been changed, but I don't know what [00:48] stealth-: Which is why that book will help you. Skim through it, go back when you need to. That book covers a lot of basics, maybe some you know and some you don't. If you really want to learn new things, wouldn't it be wise to read it? [00:48] Action: agentc0re might be high on crack though [00:48] if you can give me some suggestions on things to try/check rworkman, I'll gladly do so [00:48] agentc0re: pass da crack pipe, yo [00:49] agentc0re: k, Ill print it out and take a look through it on my spare time I suppose. thanks for the help. :) [00:49] . [00:49] Bruno: So everything worked perfectly fine on 2.6.15, then you upgraded to 2.6.29. After this your logitech webcam stopped working. You reverted back to 2.6.15 and it is still now working? Has nothing else changed? Any other upgraded packages? [00:49] well print it out in pieces at least, lol [00:50] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:50] BrunoTheDwarf: I really have no idea :/ [00:51] BrunoTheDwarf: that camera doesn't need firmware downloaded to it, does it? [00:51] Action: agentc0re passes the pipe to the left hand side [00:51] is possible you used upgradepkg on the kernel-firmware stuff, and that broke it? [00:52] Action: antler is sitting to agentc0re 's left :) [00:52] lol, heya antler :) [00:52] howdy agentc0re :) [00:52] man, I've never seen someone so eager to hit a crackpipe. [00:52] yep cmk, i went from 2.6.15 where it was working -> 2.6.29.x where I had problems with video (firefox would crash when opening a youtube clip fullscreen) -> 2.6.28.10 [00:53] haha i thought it was stuffed with thc :P [00:53] eviljames: two of them really, Urchlay too. [00:53] and my friend, mr. cannabis sativa [00:53] indica is where it's at. [00:53] puff puff pass [00:53] BrunoTheDwarf: And you are still on 2.6.28.10? [00:53] puff puff give. you're fucking up the rotation, man [00:54] hybrids are good too [00:54] and then I found out my camera wasn't working, which is then when i found out my /dev/video0 was missing [00:54] twolf: agreed. [00:54] eviljames: i don't come across good indica here [00:54] so then rolled kernel back to 2.6.15.x [00:54] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [00:55] hey now some of us need to pee clean [00:55] Okay i was kidding it's stuffed with the pineapple express :P i just wanted to give ya'll NOIDS! :P [00:55] we don't discriminate here, whatever is cool [00:55] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [00:56] how can I get detailed info about my graphics card? [00:56] lspci [00:56] grep VGA [00:56] lspci -vvv? [00:56] Rat409: thats not really detailed. Im looking for model number [00:56] stealth-: Intermediate my ass! [00:57] that was weird in irssi.sorry [00:57] agentc0re: well I know about lspci and stuff but i need model number. [00:57] oh, thats an idea [00:57] could it be maybe my vid card drivers interfering with the camera drivers? [00:58] agentc0re: how are things? [00:59] antler: They're alright ya know? SSDD. Been kind of shitty weather lately so i haven't been able to go jumping when i wanted to. You? [01:00] stealth-: i use lspci |grep VGA,but you could use hardinfo lshw hwd etc but doub't if you have them w/o slackbuilds [01:00] agentc0re: yeah, i know what you mean. pretty good here. jumping as in skydiving? [01:00] if there are slackbuilds. [01:00] Rat409: yeah I dont :( oh well, I think i've found another way to get what I wanted. [01:01] antler: Yuppers. It's great man! [01:01] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] agentc0re: way cool, though i can't say that i'd have the guts for it [01:02] I want to go out upside down and backwards [01:02] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [01:02] antler: Dude you should totally try it, at least once! :) [01:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: "Saliendo" [01:02] everyone should try it once. that way my odds off being one of the 3 every year are much lower [01:02] so please, go [01:02] hm. Does any skydiving place set the plane on fire? [01:03] cause I'd probably have a hard time making myself jump out of a perfectly good airplane [01:03] i'll light a fire [01:03] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [01:03] I'll light you on fire and then jump out of the plane [01:03] lol [01:03] how's that [01:03] nice [01:03] agentc0re: we have an aquatic centre where i live, and the diving pool has five platforms, each increasing in height and from which one jumps. yeah, i have problems jumping off the first. :D [01:03] antiwire: It depends on how you look at that, it could be that they are increasing your chances of being one of those 3. [01:04] agentc0re: yeah you're right damn probabilities [01:04] antler: You know, jumping into water hurts if you don't do it right. Skydiving is not that way at all. [01:05] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:05] agentc0re: the hurt i can handle, it's the jumping part that makes me feel like a 12 year-old girl walking home through the forest late at night [01:06] whats a good game that runs on slow slackware systems? [01:06] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] but i'm guessing that they train you before your first jump [01:06] (fist actual jump out) [01:07] stealth-: nethack [01:07] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:07] Hey antler, how's it going? [01:07] twolf: Lol i've gotten that response 5 times already..... [01:07] http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/243231 This is soo funny. [01:08] hi, firebird619 :) pretty good here. how are things going for you? [01:08] antler: for a tandem jump ( the ones where you see someone strapped to another) the training pretty much involves this "don't screw with the guy who knows what he's doing". then you go. [01:08] antler: going excellent, thank you. :) [01:08] antler: do a tandem jump. it's worth it [01:08] antiwire: you've gone on one of those jumps? [01:08] yeah [01:08] hm... so they don't teach it the way they teach swimming? [01:08] soo worth it [01:09] "toss little kid in pool, see what happens" [01:09] wow. that's nuts [01:09] Urchlay: Heh, that's how i learned to swim. :) [01:09] antler: I'd be certified and jumping myself if it wasn't so expensive [01:09] stealth-: "vt100 pac-man" would run on a 386 probably [01:10] Urchlay: cool. thx [01:10] stealth-: or go relive classic 1980s Infocom gaming: get "frotz" and the z-code files for Zork, Zork II, etc. [01:10] antiwire: how expensive is 'so expensive'? how much for a session? [01:10] Urchlay: k [01:10] antler: ~200USD [01:11] Commander Keen! [01:11] nheco (n=nheco@201-14-223-199.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:11] antler: Where do you live? [01:11] antiwire: how many hours per session? [01:11] hm, was there ever a Linux commander keen? [01:11] antler: depends on the facility [01:11] antler: no, 200 per jump [01:11] lol [01:11] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/min0s) joined ##slackware. [01:11] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.26.23) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:11] agentc0re: calgary, alberta, canada, north american continent, globe. [01:11] antiwire: lol [01:12] sup #slackware [01:12] stealth-: how slow is your laptop? could maybe run Doom, Doom II [01:12] hi icarus [01:12] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-83-236.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:12] antler: http://www.dropzone.com/dropzone/North_America/Canada/Alberta/index.html [01:12] antiwire: agentc0re : last question: how long is an average free fall? [01:13] antler: I jumped from 13500ft and it lasted just about 1 minute [01:13] antler: That actually depends how far you are from sea level. [01:13] i was at sea level [01:13] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:13] agentc0re: um, i closed the web page after i looked at 'rates' [01:13] it's 60 seconds of pure fscking awesomeness [01:13] I jump at 13000 and my free falls are about 50 to 55 seconds. [01:14] yeah, that sounds insanely fun [01:14] Urchlay: Keen worked well in dosbox IIRC [01:14] agentc0re, could you eat breakfast on the way down ? [01:14] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "right..." [01:14] i suppose it would have to be through a tube [01:14] Urchlay: only 300mb ram but no 3d graphics programs will run :( [01:14] as soon as agentcore sends me the money I'll get certified and jump with him [01:14] Urchlay: I messed something up, aparently. [01:14] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.198) joined ##slackware. [01:15] stealth-: could try MAME, lots of classic games available that way [01:15] and no 3d required [01:15] Urchlay: looks cool! Ill definately get that. [01:15] jeev: Heh, not sure if that's a good idea. last thing i want is some sausage link lodged in my throat. [01:16] speaking of sausage link lodged in throat, im sure someone has had sex in mid air [01:16] while coming down [01:16] jeev: that would be hard to get into it :/ [01:16] how the hell would you keep it hard in the first place [01:16] wtf [01:16] stealth-, someone's probably done it though [01:16] hehe [01:16] antiwire, who knows. it's been done, maybe by the jackass guy to another guy [01:16] agentc0re: thoughts on this one? [01:17] he's quiet for a reason. [01:17] some guys are "minute men", I guess [01:17] lol [01:17] Urchlay, damn right.. and i'm not ashamed! [01:17] I don't know about you but I can't see myself maintaining performance level during a jump [01:17] i told my girlfriend there is no point in you losing your virginity right now.. it'll only last 3 minutes [01:17] hahahahaha [01:17] a real lady pleaser, aren't ya, jeev ? :P [01:17] antler, i dont care.. i've been wiht a lot of girls and nobody has complained [01:17] but i'm not stupid [01:18] i've seen porn, 3 minutes isn't enough [01:18] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-7.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [01:18] he's like a bottle rocket, easy to fire, goes off quick, minimal mess [01:18] lol [01:18] cause i never prepared before.. you gotta jizz like 5 times that day and before you do it [01:18] or else it's fast! [01:18] Action: jeev doesn't care [01:18] heh. Like that movie "something about mary"? [01:18] i'm not in the industry of pleasing anyone [01:18] jeev: well you can waint 10 more miinutes, and have another 3 minutes of fun [01:18] icarus, that's the point [01:19] jeev: 3 minutes if you're lucky. [01:19] 5 times in one day. that's machine like. [01:19] the second+ time is too hard [01:19] jeev: ive never been a minute man personally, ive had sex all night and not jizzed until hours later [01:19] antler: It's worth the price my friend, so worth it. [01:19] antiwire, i know.. i've never done it but my friend says that's what he has to do to stay hard lol [01:19] after about 3, it becomes a sore-gasm [01:19] lol [01:19] icarus, that's weird [01:19] why are we talking about this, anyway? [01:19] icarus, i lose interest anyway, i'm impatient [01:19] lol [01:20] jeev: thats weird [01:20] Urchlay, because agentc0re was quiet when we mentioned garth (his "jumping" partner) [01:20] and sex in mid air [01:20] OOoohh, Garth. [01:20] jeev: just free up several hours, and have sex until you can't move [01:20] :D [01:20] icarus, sleep is good. [01:20] jeev: theres nothing better in life [01:20] Party on, Wayne. [01:21] icarus, i dont think about sex more th an 2-3 times a day. i dont get how people think about it so much [01:21] i only think about it for a second when i see a hot girl [01:21] anyone make an installer / dvd iso for slackware-current or slackware64-current yet? [01:21] rob0, yours is Wayne ? [01:21] Im 15, I only *dont* think about sex 2-3 times a day :P [01:21] agentc0re: ok, honest answer please: 200USD for a jump, or one hot whore, a 1/4 of good weed, and some change left over for dinner and munchies? [01:21] lol stealth-. [01:21] TwinReverb: I do yes [01:21] jeev: possibly your statement should have "s/ about sex//" applied to it? [01:21] link? [01:21] sure [01:21] btw, youtube, twitter, and facebook are going to merge [01:21] the latter [01:21] stealth-: :) [01:21] ok yeah, i think about sex for 20% of the day [01:22] they're going to call it YouTwitFace [01:22] antler: Jump! :) [01:22] TwinReverb: really? [01:22] sex is absolutely the most overrated thing evef [01:22] agentc0re: you maniac [01:22] ever [01:22] TwinReverb: oh, lol [01:22] jeev: depends who its with [01:22] icarus, i've been with beautiful girls.. i have VERY high standards.. which i dont deserve ;) but i get them somehow [01:22] echo 0 > /proc/dev/stealth/gullible_mode [01:22] but since i've had my girlfriend......... i'm a virgin again [01:22] TwinReverb: I was curious to were this conversation would go :( [01:22] jeev: I think that means you're doing it wrong [01:22] you do not become a virgin again :P [01:23] jeev: you seem quite young [01:23] Urchlay, read up. [01:23] i said i dont care ;) [01:23] antler: 200 will be replenished next week to do the rest with cash left over :) You can potentially brag about what you did to the whore to get a better rate, to the dealer for cheaper weed and your friends my congratulate you by buying you dinner. [01:23] i'm in my twenties [01:23] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [01:23] jeev: a quarter viagra + a half of E [01:23] s/my/might [01:23] = GODLINESS [01:23] agentc0re: lol [01:23] i think i'd shit myself in mid air if i jumped [01:23] lol icarus, i'm drug free! it's the way to be! [01:23] this is so dirty I can't believe I'm actually posting. It looked much nicer form the original author http://pastebin.ca/1448401 [01:24] from* [01:24] you'll get the idea [01:24] what do you jump out of [01:24] i've always wanted to fly a plane and chopper [01:24] jeev: ive only ever done that once, dude, don't ever do that, haha [01:24] Caravan [01:24] but i cant look down from 2 stories [01:24] jeev: then working on a radio tower is out of the question? [01:25] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] alisonken1noc, that'd make me not be capable of having babies! [01:25] having one kid wont make me get a mini van that's fo sho [01:25] hmmm, chrome builds for linux : http://blog.chromium.org/2009/06/danger-mac-and-linux-builds-available.html [01:25] bell tower? with a sniper rifle? :D [01:25] jeev: a modified one of these things (foreground) http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2008-2/10420.jpg [01:25] wow, my slackware64 is running beautifully [01:25] of course the builds are .deb :D [01:25] berke, mine too [01:25] bah, those suck [01:25] i know someone who jumped out of a helo from here [01:25] my girlfriend said she'd do it [01:25] i said if you're going to do it, i'm going to get myself a new girlfriend lol [01:26] I'd jump out of anything that gives me enough time to open. whatever [01:26] the new xfce is awesome [01:26] well, Im gonna head to bed. 'Night guys and thanks for all the help and chat :) [01:26] night stealth- [01:27] Action: TwinReverb needs to think of a "not coming home" present for himself that is about $300 and will increase his productivity [01:27] get a whore [01:27] TwinReverb: this: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/02/touch-book-tablet-netbook-with-arm-cpu-10-hour-battery-detachable-screen/ [01:28] that would result in a divorce which would take away my money which would severely decrease my productivity [01:28] lol [01:28] icarus, that's the worst thing i've ever seen [01:28] only if you're dumb enough to say, "hey, honey! i'm about to go get a whore" [01:28] i need to make a ranting website [01:29] you know what grinds my gears? the 7 processes that HP printers have running in the background [01:29] ooh nice [01:29] antler: paying for services, really? [01:29] antler: thats not open source [01:29] my wheel mouse doesnt work, even though I edited it in the xorg.conf [01:30] icarus: Paying for services *is* open source. [01:30] icarus: :P [01:30] cmk_zzz_, recompile thewhore for RISC then :P [01:31] Na, I had enough trouble getting her to work on my arm [01:31] what's a good external HD [01:31] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [01:31] nix_chix0r: do you want it portable? [01:32] ok it got boring [01:32] that would be ideal but it doesn't have to be wafer thin [01:32] lets talk about sex in mid air again [01:32] sex is good [01:32] cmk_zzz_ (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [01:32] with women ? [01:32] FARM ANIMALS [01:32] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [01:32] with penguins [01:32] in a tree [01:32] i prefer it with my husband [01:32] Sea Animals! [01:33] nix_chix0r: Well portable i like the pico C USB drives. I have an 8Gb one and they are really nice. Other than i'd just recommend one of those western digital mini hd get ups that come in different sizes. [01:33] i actually used to admin a 170 server freebsd cluster that did 6gbps and does more now of animal porn in holland [01:33] i'm not to keen on animals to be perfectly frank [01:33] they dont need me anymore since they're not getting hax0rred [01:33] agentc0re, i'm looking at at least 160gigs+ [01:33] lol in a tree [01:33] wtf is wrong with you twolf [01:34] I like climbing trees [01:34] nix_chix0r, does it need to be portable? [01:34] used to? couldn't take the heat?ahaha [01:34] sex on a motorcycle can be fun. But don't try it while riding on the freeway [01:34] TwinReverb, well any external to me is considered portable [01:34] alisonken1noc: lol [01:34] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] nix_chix0r, i am using a LaCie desktop hard drive 500GB 5400 rpm version and it works fine [01:34] alisonken1noc, especially the autoban [01:34] it's probably one of the cheaper ones [01:34] no nix_chix0r, they stopped getting hacked, php shit.. i had written something and put in crontab and it kept catching them till we found the source [01:34] nix_chix0r: :) [01:34] it's always the quiet ones that have done nasty shit [01:34] then i was expendable! [01:34] root (n=root@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:35] nix_chix0r: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136321 OR, http://tinyurl.com/qupmc9 [01:35] alisonken1noc: my uncle died that way [01:35] autoban? you mean autobahn [01:35] Nick change: root -> Guest65446 [01:35] with a hard drive 5400 rpm you're not going to have an insane data transfer speed but it will be good enough [01:35] i'm like wtf? sex on an autoban ? [01:35] Guest65446 (n=root@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:35] Action: TwinReverb wonders if there should be an auto-ban [01:35] there should be an onjoin ban of all republicans [01:35] icarus: motorcycle accident? or sex on a motorcycle? (not to be too out of line - I've known a few m/c accidents as well) [01:35] ;) [01:36] the only thing i don't like about netbooks is their puny resolution [01:36] icarus knows one person for every possible sex outcome [01:36] alisonken1noc: sex on a motorcycle [01:36] jeev, sounds like you're auto-banned then :P [01:36] er 8-P [01:36] huh [01:36] wow, slackware64 is fast [01:36] lol berke [01:36] berke, now try to compile bibletime for it and see if your opinion remains the same 8-S [01:37] why are compiles slow? [01:37] anywho, ive got to lay down and sleep [01:37] peace [01:37] TwinReverb: I've compiled bibletime on slamd64 - worked ok for me [01:37] good night [01:37] peace [01:37] berke, no, but getting some things to compile for 64 bit may be difficult [01:37] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] alisonken1noc, lucky you 8-S [01:37] berke: make -jX (X= number of cores plus 1 or 2) [01:37] nah # cores x 2 [01:38] you can do actually # cores x 4 if you want it to be completed _right_ _now_ [01:39] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) joined ##slackware. [01:39] our packages are now called txz's? [01:39] The xTreme Zippage!! [01:39] well Patrick added a compression algorithm [01:39] berke: it was announced long back . .. [01:39] actually i was always taught to use -j #ofcpus+2 [01:39] it was to decrease speed [01:39] berke, www.2cpu.com [01:40] they ran some dual processor compile tests and the magic # seemed to be # cores x 4 [01:40] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) left irc: Client Quit [01:40] so now its cores times 2? [01:40] i'm probally going to get him a 1TB one for his birthday [01:40] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) joined ##slackware. [01:40] if my girlfriend got me a hard drive for my birthday, i'd think she was spying on me [01:40] i used to use that on my dual p3 tualatin and i also use it on my dual core 1.6ghz laptop, works good on both if you don't mind your programs not having any cpu bandwidth left to run smoothly [01:40] why [01:40] but i already have 6 failed 1.5tb drives [01:40] if my girlfriend got me a hard drive for my birthday I might marry hey [01:40] so i'm not intersted in any more [01:40] he wants one to store all his music [01:40] her [01:41] Urchlay: lol [01:41] haha [01:41] i'm gonna marry mine when she's done with school [01:41] but the point was "let's see what the best # threads to run on a duallie is" and they tried everything from 2 to 32 and 4 x # cores seemed to be the best in terms of just getting it done as fast as possible [01:41] a long time from now heh [01:41] hmm the flashplayer slackbuild in /extra doesnt seem to work [01:41] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) left irc: Client Quit [01:41] i got him onion goggles and the red swingline stapler for his desk at work and sometimes i steal it:) [01:41] worked for me berke [01:41] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) joined ##slackware. [01:42] you wanna be careful stealing a man's red swingline stapler [01:42] is pkgtool still broken? [01:42] he could burn the building down [01:42] [01:42] hah [01:42] Urchlay, what i want to do is get a piece of our company paper and glue on random letters as a ransom for his stapler [01:42] i cd to a dir in /extra and run pkgtool, to install from current dir, and it says "binary operator expected" [01:42] did red swingline staplers even exist before that movie came out? [01:42] (I know they make them now) [01:42] no [01:43] just like Brawndo wasn't a real drink at the time Idiocracy was made [01:43] (hm, those are both mike judge movies, aren't they?) [01:43] Urchlay: hey is that a good movie? [01:43] what, Idiocracy? [01:43] yeah [01:43] yep [01:43] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:44] like, real good, or just good. [01:44] eh, probably "just good" [01:44] it's effective satire though [01:44] Urchlay: finally saw star trek. have you seen it yet? [01:45] yeah [01:45] what'd you think? [01:45] good, though it seemed way too rushed. you? [01:47] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [01:48] basically the same thing [01:48] pacing was too much like an action movie for Trek [01:48] better than I expected (last few trek movies have not impressed me much) [01:48] i didn't appreciate future-spock being there, either. yeah, exactly, too much like an action movie [01:49] woohoo action movie [01:49] how good is linux support for the ARM processor and the features it typically has like instant-on ? [01:49] Urchlay: i did like bones, though :) [01:49] and there were too many goofy things thrown in, like drawing attention to chekhov's accent so much [01:50] oh yah... [01:50] yeah, the guy who played bones could almost have been a clone grown from deforest kelley's DNA [01:50] kunal (n=kunala05@ppp-124-120-227-38.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: [01:50] and I actually liked that guy from Heroes as Spock [01:51] i don't quite remember: the group that held pike captive was romulan? [01:51] yeah [01:51] yeah, he was good [01:51] Just curious to know is Koffice that important when we have OpenOffice ? [01:51] actually was cool to see capt. pike again [01:51] talosian - if your thinking of the epsiode where spock takes over the ship to return pike [01:52] i wonder why they didn't make them look more romulan-looking [01:52] alisonken1noc: thought he was asking about the new movie [01:52] ah [01:52] yeah, new movie [01:52] haven't seen it yet [01:52] romulans and klingons both seem to change their appearance drastically in the trek universe [01:53] just once I want to see a star trek with non-evil romulans in it [01:53] of course - new series/movies means someone get's to "update" alien apperances [01:53] Urchlay: yeah, but we're used to seing romulans as they appear in TNG, Enterprise, etc [01:53] Urchlay: then watch TNG again, the episode in which spock collaborates with them for peace [01:53] they made klingons into good guys, guess they have to have some evil aliens around [01:53] hrrr, must have been one of the seasons I didn't see [01:54] Urchlay: man, i think the movie could've been much better had it focused more on character development [01:55] there was some, just not enough [01:55] yeah... I guess they were thinking "this is the 10th movie, the characters are already developed, everyone knows them" [01:55] they threw simon pegg in there as scotty, he's always hilarious, but he talks about 10x as much as the original scotty [01:57] that's IS probably what they thought. but the fact is this movie is about how they started. we shouldn't have been allowed to assume anything. they should've let us judge the characters, drawing our own connections, from their actions [01:57] eh, just my opinion [01:59] well I liked the cast better than the crew of the show Enterprise [01:59] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "init 0 -will be back" [02:00] suppose they're going to be making sequels to this movie [02:02] yeah, casting was good [02:02] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] oohh cool iRiver's players support OGG and FLAC! [02:02] Action: TwinReverb is SO going to get one [02:03] heh i actually wouldn't mind seeing a movie version of enterprise :P [02:04] hmm... maybe take the encounter with the zindi(?) as a starting point [02:05] hmm, whats-his-name isn't getting any younger (capt archer, I forgot the actors name) [02:05] yeah, the guy from quantum leap, i think [02:06] they actually had an ep of enterprise with him and the other guy from quantum leap, and they didn't throw in any kind of reference to it or anything [02:06] yeah [02:06] aka the Cylon king [02:06] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [02:06] yeah, liked him in galactica [02:07] "I know you're not a Cylon because I am one, and I haven't seen you at any of the meetings" [02:07] also he was in the theatrical Dune movie (Dr. Yueh) [02:07] guy's done quite a bit of science fiction [02:09] http://www.hulu.com/watch/68674/house-house-riffs-on-pick-up-lines [02:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434302.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:11] hi [02:11] hey [02:11] man i'm so in the mood for a good sci-fi flick right now [02:12] antler: how about the original Outer Limits episodes on hulu? [02:12] antler: that happens to me sometimes. I usually go for Carl Sagan speeches [02:12] they are rad [02:13] alisonken1noc: as in the tv show? i'm more up for a movie [02:13] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:13] antiwire: yeah [02:13] well, 32 hours of outer limits is a little longer than a movie :) [02:14] watching something kind of odd [02:14] alisonken1noc: i mean more something 1.5 hours in the ball park of gattaca or the one with jodie foster in it--forgot the name [02:15] something like 'the island' but better [02:15] fake documentary done in the style of the history channel, about the cofederate states (alternate history, where they won the civil war) [02:15] contact [02:15] I can't stand that jodie foster in that contact [02:15] ugh. [02:15] the one about her being a scientist and taking a trip to meet aliens? [02:15] ha! [02:15] Gattaca was great [02:15] contact - that's the one I was thinking of [02:15] contact sucked [02:15] gattaca was good [02:15] hilarious "I can't stand that jodie foster" [02:16] ;) [02:16] antiwire: agreed. but the idea of contact is nice--that's more of what i mean [02:16] when is avatar coming [02:16] I thought it was supposed to be out already but no ads [02:16] yeah the concept was cool but the implementation...not so hot [02:16] read the book [02:17] better? [02:17] before I saw the movie [02:17] that's what I find with most movies over the last couple of decades [02:17] I wonder if Ann Rice was saying the same thing "I can't stand that tom cruise in that interview with the vampire movie" [02:17] well, jodie foster's not in the book, so that's either a plus or a minus depending on how you look at it :) [02:18] hahah [02:18] ann rice was probably saying "Whoa, look at all this money, I can buy a whole warehouse full of absinthe" [02:19] hehe [02:19] actually that movie was OK, as far as movies made from books go [02:20] check out the #mysql topic quote: < Kumba_> so, I had a small problem with a runaway PHP script and inserted 275-million records into a MyISAM table. [02:20] neat [02:20] haha [02:21] did he hit some kinda limit on rows in myisam, or run out of disk space first? [02:21] actually, the only good jodie foster movie (i remember) is 'silence of the lambs', but what's-his-face clearly shined. [02:21] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-75de0ff0db8dd3bd) joined ##slackware. [02:21] Anthony Hopkins [02:21] sir anthony hopkins to you, rk4n3 [02:21] Sir Anthony Hopkins [02:21] :) [02:21] lol [02:22] Excellent actor [02:22] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [02:22] The movie "Instinct" was really really good [02:22] oh, was that with hopkins and a balwin? [02:22] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:22] baldwin [02:22] Hopkins and Cuba Gooding Jr. [02:23] They thunderbird is not allowing to make use of imap, instead i see only option for a pop ,with gmail accounts [02:23] I just downed about 1700 calories and a 24oz beer [02:23] I think i'm going to die. [02:23] init[1]: I'm running imap in thunderbird now [02:24] alisonken1noc: im checking it once again ... [02:24] init[1]: Select "Email", then email information, then you get the option for POP or Imap [02:25] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] rk4n3: hm, i'll have to check that out, though i might've seen it already. i hate bringing home a movie only to discover that i've seen it [02:26] indeed [02:26] my only real complaint with jodie foster in the hannibal movies: supposedly she made them change the ending of "hannibal" [02:26] in the book, agent starling quits the FBI, joins hannibal, they run off together to live happily ever after [02:26] I don't think she was in "Hannibal" [02:26] what? she wasn't in 'hannibal', was she?? [02:26] alisonken1noc: there no "Email" [02:27] antler: "Silence of the Lambs" - the movie about hanibal after he was incarcerated IIRC [02:27] Urchlay: seriously? that is so gay [02:27] eh, which one's it called, with the guy who had no lips or eyeballs, was going to feed hannibal to his pigs [02:27] it was Julianne Moore in Hannibal [02:27] alisonken1noc: oh, got it [02:27] yeah, yer right [02:28] alisonken1noc: got it [02:28] init[1]: Edit -> Account Settings ->Add Account->"Email account"->(account identity)->POP or IMAP [02:28] well, maybe I'm mis-remembering something [02:28] Urchlay: the one with the pigs is Hannibal, and that was Julianne Moore :) [02:28] anyway in the movie, starling arrests him at the end, which I thought was pretty lame [02:28] alisonken1noc: got it .. problem was i assumed default wizard for gmail would give imap .:P [02:29] :) [02:29] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [02:29] I had heard somewhere that was foster's idea, but now that you point out she wasn't even in that movie, eh, that doesn't make so much sense [02:29] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [02:29] rk4n3: ah, 'the edge' was hopkins baldwin [02:29] Nick change: me_ -> YourOwnNick [02:29] alisonken1noc: why is that they do it this way . i mean why not an option for both pop and imap for gmail? [02:30] antler: aha - another great movie :) [02:31] init[1]: different protocols - although I use thunderbird with google and IMAP [02:31] alisonken1noc: not that,i mean the default setup for gmail , gives ony pop acess right [02:32] *only [02:32] why not give an option for imap . too . [02:32] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@24.6.177.66) joined ##slackware. [02:32] not both togather... :P [02:32] init[1]: don't know - I just followed the information on google about using imap and gmail [02:32] alisonken1noc: try the gmail setup up with dummy account you will understand what i meant [02:33] Nick change: YourOwnNick -> me_ [02:33] right now doing the "Email" wizard [02:34] in your gmail account, you have to enable imap access before you can use imap protocol [02:35] http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75725 [02:35] alisonken1noc: obvsly .. [02:35] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] alisonken1noc: i know that setup .. , my question was when you go for the default gmail wizard it give only option for POP. [02:36] default pop setups usually delete mail from server when checking mail - saves space on their servers :) [02:36] it also requires less recources to process pop than imap [02:36] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:37] alisonken1noc: yep got your point , but i was talking about thunderbird . [02:37] eh, maybe i'll just throw in 'blade runner' for now [02:37] alisonken1noc: i will imagebin what i meant [02:37] init[1]: I already checked it out [02:37] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:38] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:38] I can only guess, but when the mozilla guys talked to google, my bet is on that being agreed as the default [02:38] that totally makes sense [02:38] :) [02:39] if i have the option i always use imap. I have no specific need for imap though [02:39] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:40] if i have to go out of my way for it i won't bother [02:40] but "Email" wizard helps use to so .. [02:41] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] ? [02:41] night guys later [02:41] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:41] me_: i mean imap acess [02:45] email wizard helps you set up imap access? [02:45] somewhat, yes [02:46] me_: yes "Email" [02:46] but that's got nothing to do with gmail [02:46] why not? [02:46] me_: we weren't talking about gmail, [02:46] gmail email wizard? [02:47] thunderbird's gmail wizard gives only pop acess [02:47] i'm totally confused now [02:47] where as "Email" wizard gives option's for both imap and pop [02:47] you select email rather than gmail to get imap with google mail [02:47] thunderbird has a wizard specifically for gmail? [02:47] me_: yes [02:47] good god [02:47] it has an option to select gmail - but it only allows pop access [02:47] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.51.60) joined ##slackware. [02:47] i see [02:48] if you want gmail imap access, follow the gmail webpage instructions, then go through thungerbird 'emai' wizard [02:49] i'm a little suprised that there is a gmail wizard [02:49] sorry - 'email' wizard [02:49] why? gmail is popular [02:50] so is yahoo, but i would still need to set that up through the email wizard no? [02:50] have to check with yahoo setup to see about that [02:50] me_: btw you can do it for yahoo to with "Email" :P [02:50] me_: have you heard of Zimbra? [02:51] nope [02:51] google it. [02:51] its a cool client from yahoo [02:52] but little support for gmail ,though its present in it [02:52] i don't really use yahoo [02:52] my point is that i find it suprising that there is essentially 2 options. gmail, or other [02:53] in thunderbird [02:53] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [02:54] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@68-241-101-193.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:55] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:55] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:55] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@68-241-101-193.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:56] judequinn (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [02:57] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@68-241-101-193.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:57] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:58] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70.41.16.81) joined ##slackware. [02:59] me_, or you could have a friend "in the business" like i do and have POP3 (puresimplicity.net). he uses FreeBSD and spamassassin. works good. [02:59] l8r *1 [03:00] im getting web login faliure .. [03:01] gmail IMAP? did you change the port from the default IMAP port? [03:01] imap [03:01] yes 993 [03:01] also, did you enable imap access in your gmail account? [03:01] yes [03:02] do i have get a ssl certificate? [03:02] ssl security? [03:02] yes [03:02] is your username in thunderbird your whole email address? [03:02] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [03:02] myname@gmail.com [03:02] username@gmail.com [03:02] yep [03:02] servername? [03:03] imap.gmail.com [03:03] and when trying to lopin its say [03:03] abc@gmail.com@imap.gmail.com [03:03] quite strange [03:03] not normal [03:03] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:04] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:04] hello everyone, I'm using slackware current with KDE4 and I need to make changes to the login manager, but the options are not available. It seems I need to give the root password so I can run in Administrator mode, but I can't find anywhere to type my password...anyone else got this issue ? [03:04] servername: imap.gmail.com username: (user)@gmail.com [03:04] yes .. [03:05] its not problem with my password .. "its say web login faliure" [03:05] init[1]: In account settings, hight the username in the left hand panel so you go back to the main account settings page in the right pane. what format is your Account name: , Your Name: , and Email Address: ? [03:05] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [03:06] greetings [03:06] salutations [03:06] Account Namr should be just the username, same with Your Name. Email address should be the email address username@gmail.com [03:06] ohh my dear God, kde is awsome ;) [03:06] hiya antiwire [03:06] antiwire: abc@gmail.com [03:06] Account Name [03:06] antiwire: for mine: "Account Name: GMail", "Your Name: " [03:07] alisonken1noc: yeah that works fine [03:07] init[1]: take off the gmail.com [03:07] ;) [03:08] init[1]: I've been in this same predicament with the same peculiar error message. It took me a bit to figure out the "WTF?" [03:08] "web login faliure" [03:08] same thing [03:09] init[1]: can you verify your SMTP settings now? [03:09] smtp.gmail.com [03:09] 587 [03:09] username:abc [03:09] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@68-241-101-193.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:09] ther eit is [03:09] +tls [03:10] username should be the email address [03:10] antiwire: wow. . [03:10] but it doesn't have any loging [03:10] logic [03:10] i kno [03:10] I was there man [03:10] smtp is only needed when sending right [03:11] correct [03:11] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:11] hows does that conflict with imap [03:11] does it work now? [03:12] antiwire: yes obvsly [03:12] reading my mail now [03:12] ...no so obvious when you keep seeming like you're doubting it... [03:13] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@68-241-101-193.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] :) [03:13] you can find the complain department here: http://www.google.com [03:13] thanks a bunch both alisonken1noc , antiwire :) [03:13] you're welcome [03:14] is it problem with mozilla TB or google [03:14] I went through this identical procedure myself lol [03:14] :P [03:14] np [03:14] init[1]: IMO it's a combination of both parties [03:15] lol.. ;) [03:15] Action: init[1] went for a bath o_O [03:15] btw, I create a separate SMTP entry for each of my gmail accounts so that it sends with the proper username for each gmail account instead of using the same SMTP user account for each different gmail account. [03:16] create the entry and then assign the corresponding entry to the Account [03:16] that way the sender/receiver always match [03:17] Nick change: judequinn -> usus12jari [03:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434302.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:24] Action: The-Croupier is really enjoying current :) so awsome [03:24] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.248.124) joined ##slackware. [03:25] 12.2 had no fun after a while... had nothing to do and was creating little things..current has sooo many stuff to do ;) awsome... [03:25] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:29] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:30] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@68-241-101-193.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:30] weird [03:31] isn't that what they all say? [03:31] part of why I like slackware is that it's always felt like the same OS [03:31] like an old comfortable pair of boots [03:32] if I'd been cryogenically frozen after using slackware 3.4 for a year, and thawed out and given a 12.2 install disk, I'd still have felt right at home [03:32] can anyone help me by pointing the location of the qt libraries in slackware current (is it /usr/lib/qt/lib) and also the qt header files ? [03:33] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:34] header files should be in /usr/include [03:34] ordered him a "Seagate FreeAgent Desk 1 TB USB 2.0 External Hard Drive [03:34] should get here by tuesday and i can wrap it up and hide it:D [03:35] lucky sod birthday on the 14th and fathers day that following weekend [03:35] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@72-56-16-56.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:36] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@72-56-16-56.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:36] my wife has mother's day and birthday within a couple of weeks of each other [03:36] alisonken1noc: lucky you ;) [03:37] for her - she got an iTouch for her present [03:37] lucky her [03:38] Hey alisonken1noc, how are you? [03:38] firebird619: hanging around waiting for my turn at watching [03:38] howzabout you [03:39] doing great, thank you. :) I won't be on much longer, it's 02:48 here. [03:39] I have another 5 hours, so be around awhile [03:40] alisonken1noc: you are watching what? [03:40] server watch - making sure they stay running [03:40] ooops ;) what kind of servers? running what/ [03:40] ? [03:41] debian servers - dreamhost [03:41] sounds like fun ;) how do you keep monitoring them? [03:41] anyone need a recertified Logitech Wave (corded) for $19.99 + Free S&H --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126057 [03:42] mainly nagios with email notifications [03:42] do you just stay and stare at them? [03:42] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.248.124) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:43] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434302.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:43] not really - also build servers, fix raids, stuff like that [03:43] alisonken1noc: sounds like fun man ;) congratulations [03:43] so how do the "fortune" quotes get collected? [03:43] Are there new versions where it's even more quotes? [03:44] alisonken1noc: i take it you know how to configure nagios on slackware as well ;) [03:44] The-Croupier: can figure it out [03:44] redtricycle: /usr/share/games/fortune is where the data files are. there's also a howto on adding new quotes to the files [03:45] alisonken1noc: do you have time ;) to help me do it together for slackware current? [03:45] could probably help figure it out - although I don't have current running at the moment [03:45] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@173-130-162-236.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] alisonken1noc: its alright..im reading manual atm ;) [03:46] ill tell you if something goes wrong [03:47] dusty_ (n=dusty@linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:48] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@173-130-162-236.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:48] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@173-130-162-236.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:49] alisonken1noc: so you dont get bored, did you have any nice strange stories with the servers you are watching? ;) [03:50] still learning the setup - but right now having an issue getting a new image to update the repository. something with the way they have the physical/virtual realms setup [03:50] remember, just started here a month ago [03:50] :) [03:50] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:50] Hey guys, I have slackware 12.2 running on my IBM ThinkPad r61. Trying to get wireless to work, here are the wireless card details: http://pastebin.com/m553385c - Why am I unable to scan for wireless networks, the card does support scanning (I used to run ubuntu on this laptop and wireless worked perfectly) ? [03:50] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [03:50] did you ifconfig wlan0 up? [03:51] interface has to be active before it can scan [03:51] doh [03:51] ;-] [03:51] my current doesnt even put eth0 up if i dont ifconfig eth0 up [03:52] dusty_: how did you scan? also, does it show its working and you cannot scan ? [03:52] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@173-130-162-236.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:53] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [03:53] Later everyone. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening. Take care. :) [03:53] firebird619: have a good one [03:54] thanks [03:54] komesti (n=komesti@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Hi slava_dp [03:54] hey firebird619 :) [03:54] slava_dp: I'm just leaving, it's 03:03 here, so take care. :) [03:55] damn, there are no slackware instructions http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/quickstart.html [03:55] firebird619, you also take care :) good night! [03:55] firebird619: bb man ;) [03:55] thanks [03:55] see ya The-Croupier [03:55] The-Croupier: although, apparently a tech support guy called a customer from the noc to fix a problem. the guy now thinks the noc number is his personal help desk number to call. needless to say, he didn't get the hint after three of us told him nobody at this number could help him. [03:55] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [03:56] The-Croupier: of course not - slackware is not mainstream, remember? :) [03:57] yah lol [03:58] The-Croupier: so far, the fedora instructions should work fine (at least through step 4) [03:58] the only main part might be if fedora has non-standard libs or something that nagios is looking for [03:58] i see ;) [03:58] ill create the groups and the users ;) [03:58] and see if i can make a slackbuild [03:59] im never good with those damn little things ;) [03:59] did you know the savage 1 game went open source? free download, played all evening yesterday! [03:59] alisonken1noc: i had something similar with the phonenumber, i told it to a student of mine, and now he thinks im his personal technical support 24/7 [03:59] don't forget to check the makefile and fix up to allow 'DESTDIR=' OPTIONS [03:59] loki games ported it back in the day when they were active. [04:00] alisonken1noc: ill try [04:00] The-Croupier: step 7 is definitely a non-slackware option. it uses fedora's services directory setup [04:01] alisonken1noc: ill need apache it says ; ) [04:01] it does have an apache webserver interface [04:01] The-Croupier: It is working fine when I do iwlist wlan0 scan :-] [04:01] well no not opensource just freeware. but still it's awesome. [04:01] oh, i will not need and DBs in in the pc right? [04:01] The-Croupier: In Ubuntu it had a lovely GUI that did it all for you.... NetworkManager :-] [04:02] dusty_: theres wicd here [04:02] The-Croupier: shouldn't - I believe it uses text files [04:02] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: "Leaving" [04:02] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [04:03] alisonken1noc: ok..let me do some steps..and ill tell you what ive done..;) is that alright? [04:03] sounds good [04:03] alisonken1noc: fyi i dont need it, but i want to make it work...then make a slackbuild..then probably give it to someone if needed ;) [04:03] one sec...im in an exam as well ;) [04:04] intel video drivers suck cock [04:04] The-Croupier: you can also see if they'll accept it at slackbuilds.org as well [04:04] i can't launch the game on my laptop, it just shows a white screen. at home on an nvidia it works. [04:04] violator (n=violator@hd5e2781d.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) joined ##slackware. [04:05] the-croupier what are you building? [04:05] alisonken1noc: im kind of shy to ask them ;) [04:05] The-Croupier: one thing about the default is it put's nagios in /usr/local [04:05] bryanlharris_: nagios ;) with alisonken1noc ;) [04:05] rather, /usr/local/nagios [04:05] I upgraded to slackware current using slackpkg and changed theme in KDE and now I get "QGtkStyle cannot be used together with the GTK_Qt engine." anyone know where this setting is stored? [04:05] oh [04:06] violator: you may have kde3 libs still in there. the notes let you know that you have to uninstall all kde3 stuff and upgrade qt as well in order to install kde4 [04:06] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-d5677c7d0f706586) joined ##slackware. [04:06] hi [04:07] alisonken1noc: thanks [04:07] np [04:07] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:07] /usr/sbin/usermod -a -G nagcmd nagios [04:07] this cannot work for some reason;) and the next step might not either ;) [04:08] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [04:11] vinegaroon (n=sam@202.180.123.62) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:11] found this as well ;) http://buitenzorg1979.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/instal-nagios-303-pada-slackware-121/ [04:11] slava_dp: what is your download rate? [04:11] vinegaroon (n=sam@202.180.123.62) joined ##slackware. [04:11] alisonken1noc: could you see if this is ok ;) [04:12] init[1], big one. [04:13] you may want to include the embedded perl interpreter [04:13] savage will take 1 day for me to download :P [04:13] http://pastebin.ca/1448481 [04:13] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:13] i wish counter strike was opensourced [04:13] alisonken1noc: yeep i noticed that the perl is not included ;) [04:14] I notice :) [04:14] alisonken1noc: where do I find the release notes and details for KDE upgrade? /current-slackware/UPGRADE.txt ? [04:14] alisonken1noc: how do i do that? do you have any idea? [04:14] I'm wondering if embedded python would be available [04:14] violator: that would be a start [04:14] checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... yes [04:15] The-Croupier: also - check the changelog notes [04:15] alisonken1noc: what do you mean? [04:15] sorry - that was for violator [04:15] ;) [04:15] violator: check the changelog notes [04:16] alisonken1noc: thanks [04:16] The-Croupier: embedded perl would probably be an option in the makefile [04:16] Hey guys when using vpnc to connect to a vpn, it writes to resolv.conf and changes the nameservers so mynormal lan connections die, is there a way to stop this so that i can still access lan traffic ? [04:16] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "IRC Bug" [04:16] you may have to check the nagios plugins site to see if embedded perl is a separate download [04:17] dusty_: does your vpn configuration file have an option set for nameserver? if it does, try commenting it out [04:19] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [04:20] alisonken1noc: no it does not.. but i need the nameservers passed over from the vpn so i can access vpn related resources.. but it kills my lan traffic until i disconnect [04:21] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:22] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [04:23] alisonken1noc: i read in the manual that -with-perl: /usr/bin/perl is in the plugin install ;) [04:23] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:23] so looks like ill have to install it as it is..and then add the plugin, for perl ;) [04:24] perl <3 [04:24] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-248.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:24] dusty_: yeah - that's what I find when I have a tunnel going to the office [04:26] pizdets- (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:28] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: "poof" [04:29] pizdets- (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:30] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [04:31] freebse (n=freebse@a89-183-77-186.net-htp.de) joined ##slackware. [04:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:33] violator (n=violator@hd5e2781d.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) left ##slackware. [04:34] ./configure -prefix=/usr/local/nagios \-with-nagios-user=nagios -with-nagios-group=nagios --with-perl:/usr/bin/perl [04:34] alisonken1noc: what am i doing wrong in this command for the plugin,perl install ;) [04:35] there is a /usr/bin/perl there ;) [04:36] alisonken1noc: Ok, so there is no way to do "split tunneling" as such then? In the sense that I can't resolve dns on the vpn and local lan at the same time ? [04:36] I read somewhere about resolv.conf.head/tail files but they don't seem to work. [04:38] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:38] anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [04:38] dusty_: what I ended up doing was putting 2 nameserver entries in my resolv.conf - one for the tunnel nameserver and also for 4.2.2.1 (general dns server). Queries may take a little longer due to the tunnel having propagation delays and the tunnel dns server queries taking time before it rolls over to the public, but it should be livable. [04:39] The-Croupier: checking [04:39] Nick change: anakin -> Anakin [04:40] alisonken1noc: make all in the plugin folder didnt work :( [04:40] nothing to be done in some stuff [04:40] freebse (n=freebse@a89-183-77-186.net-htp.de) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [04:40] alisonken1noc: Not sure how you accomplished that but, when I connect to the VPN it overwrites what I had in resolv.conf with a new one. THen when I disconnect it reverts back to it. So even if I put a vpn nameserver into it before I connect it gets overwritten.. [04:40] freebse (n=freebse@a89-183-77-186.net-htp.de) joined ##slackware. [04:40] freebse2 (n=freebse@a89-183-77-186.net-htp.de) joined ##slackware. [04:41] ttyX (n=Haider@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [04:41] dusty_: might have to resort to having a separate /etc/resolv.conf.tunnel file, then when the tunnel gets active, copy /etc/resolv.conf.tunnel /etc/resolv.conf - that's usually what i have to do with my laptop [04:41] how does sun calculate the speed of their os? [04:41] freebse2 (n=freebse@a89-183-77-186.net-htp.de) left irc: Client Quit [04:42] they say the latest opensolaris is faster than linux [04:42] and It's been over an hour and installation is stuck at 60% [04:42] that's slower than even windows [04:42] define speed [04:42] tank-man: of light ;) [04:43] speed = slack install :D [04:43] even ubuntu is faster than solaris installer tbh [04:44] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [04:44] ttyX: definitely _not_ installation time :) [04:44] alisonken1noc: good thinking ;-] [04:44] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70.41.16.81) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:44] alisonken1noc: so it means if the installer takes 6 hours to install it doesn't count? [04:45] The-Croupier: is it failing on the graphics? [04:45] ttyX: when doing benchmarks, all timing stuff is related to running, not installing [04:46] I know but this is too much [04:46] makeing all again... ill pastebin in 2mins [04:47] make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ksandros/Desktop/nagios-plugins-1.4.13/gl' [04:47] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:47] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:47] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:47] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:48] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:49] The-Croupier: what was your ./configure options? [04:49] ./configure -prefix=/usr/local/nagios \-with-nagios-user=nagios -with-nagios-group=nagios [04:51] do i need more options to it? [04:51] is this after you installed nagios? [04:51] yes [04:51] freebse (n=freebse@a89-183-77-186.net-htp.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:51] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [04:52] alisonken1noc: yes, after makeinstall everything ) [04:52] ok [04:52] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) joined ##slackware. [04:53] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-248.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [04:53] The-Croupier: what was the lines before the leaving directory? trying to find the actual error [04:54] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:55] /lib/libnagiosplug.a ../gl/libgnu.a -lnsl -lresolv -ldl [04:55] this is one of them [04:56] freebse (n=freebse@89.183.77.186) joined ##slackware. [04:56] ar cru libgnu.a base64.o full-read.o full-write.o localcharset.o xalloc-die.o xstrndup.o asnprintf.o basename.o c-strtod.o cloexec.o creat-safer.o dirname.o dup-safer.o exitfail.o fd-safer.o fsusage.o mountlist.o open-safer.o pipe-safer.o printf-args.o printf-parse.o safe-read.o safe-write.o stripslash.o vasnprintf.o xmalloc.o [04:56] ranlib libgnu.a [04:57] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [04:57] after this... starts leaving directory gl,lib, lib/tests, plugins [04:59] shall i download,make , gnustep base and make from sbo? [05:00] pihentagyu (n=doeppjak@89.123.79.40) joined ##slackware. [05:00] doeppjakab (n=doeppjak@89.123.79.40) joined ##slackware. [05:00] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.134.77) joined ##slackware. [05:01] I don't think gnustep is needed, but I could be wrong. After installing, did you run ldconfig? (shouldn't be needed, but you never know) [05:01] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.18) joined ##slackware. [05:01] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "De profvndis clamo ad te Domine." [05:02] ttyX (n=Haider@115.108.13.72) left ##slackware. [05:02] alisonken1noc: i didnt run ldconfig :( [05:02] evo- (n=evo@p57A57CF7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:03] vinegaroon (n=sam@202.180.123.62) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:03] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-123-62.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:03] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:03] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:04] alisonken1noc: have to wait a little for compiling some libraries...then ill try make again , and ill run ldconfig [05:04] ;) thanks [05:04] lets hope this works [05:04] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [05:04] The-Croupier: are you running -current? [05:04] alisonken1noc: yes [05:05] ok - I'm still on .2 [05:05] the fun part is going to see how it does on slack64 :) [05:05] im not running the 64bit one though ;) my little laptop is not going to handle that well, imho [05:06] why shoudn't it? if it's a 64-bit laptop should be ok [05:06] also, im really impressed with kdes graphics and the things theyve done ;) really easy to configure and change ;) well nice ;) [05:06] its an acer aspire5680wlmi [05:07] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [05:08] alisonken1noc: run ldconfig in the nagios make? or in the plugins one ? :( [05:09] ldconfig shows nothing ;) [05:10] ldconfig is the command for the link library to update it's cache of library files in the directories listed in /etc/ld.so.conf file [05:10] It generally doesnt.. [05:10] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:24] some vouching purpose . [05:25] doeppjakab (n=doeppjak@89.123.79.40) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] evo- (n=evo@p57A57CF7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.135.15) joined ##slackware. [05:27] slava_dp: it uses .pc files in /usr/lib/pkgconfig (or /usr/lib64/pkgconfig) to define functionality of installed programs for compiling purposes [05:28] (my limited understanding of it at least) [05:29] i guess i can safely comment it out from the startup script for flash media server then. (already did) [05:29] alisonken1noc: sorry i was reading the manual again ;) gd lib checking now [05:29] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [05:29] alisonken1noc: yes, i do have the gd lib installed [05:29] The-Croupier: actually, when you ran ./configure in nagios there's a line that indicates if it found gd libs [05:30] Action: slava_dp does not want to install a 111MB glibc package just for a tiny getconf tool :) [05:30] alisonken1noc: in nagios,or plugins :( [05:31] nagios [05:32] checking for gdImagePng in -lgd (order 1)... no [05:32] this one? [05:32] ar cru libgnu.a base64.o full-read.o full-write.o localcharset.o xalloc-die.o xstrndup.o asnprintf.o basename.o c-strtod.o cloexec.o creat-safer.o dirname.o dup-safer.o exitfail.o fd-safer.o fsusage.o mountlist.o open-safer.o pipe-safer.o printf-args.o printf-parse.o safe-read.o safe-write.o stripslash.o vasnprintf.o xmalloc.o [05:32] ranlib libgnu.a [05:32] sorry [05:32] or this one: checking for gdImagePng in -lgd (order 2)... yes [05:33] should be it yes [05:33] it says: GD library was found! [05:35] hmmm, im confused [05:35] ok [05:35] join the club [05:35] ok ;) [05:35] Action: The-Croupier joined the club :( [05:38] interesting to see what "make 0j4" does on a dual-core machine [05:39] ill have to do it another day, i have to clean up all the lessons pcs... :( hope i dont forget it.. thanks for your time and wisdom alisonken1noc [05:39] np [05:39] randomguy (n=randomgu@199.80-202-137.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [05:39] I'm trying it on my slamd64 12.2 box to see what I get [05:39] evo_ (n=evo@p57A57807.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:39] thanks...maybe we can make some kind of pkg..to run it straight away ;) [05:40] randomguy (n=randomgu@199.80-202-137.nextgentel.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:40] :) [05:40] cool - it looks like the Makefile for nagios honors $(DESTDIR) [05:41] ill be looking at the screen time to time while cleaning up ...;) [05:41] please tell me whathappens [05:41] I'm watching, so it may take some time [05:41] randomguy (n=randomgu@199.80-202-137.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:55] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-60-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net) returned to ##slackware. [07:58] Hey guys, I installed slackware 12.2 on my laptop but when it boots up it doesn't have that cool slackware bootup screen with the penguin? I've seen it on a mates slackware 12.2 install how would i go about getting it ? [07:59] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.89.57) joined ##slackware. [07:59] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [08:00] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:01] evo- (n=evo@p57A57503.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] dusty_: # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256 [08:01] vga = 773 [08:01] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] put that into lilo rerun it [08:02] dogsoul (n=dogsoul@dogsoul.org) left ##slackware. [08:02] do you mean the lilo boot-screen ? [08:03] dusty_: IOW - the multiple penguins up in the top left corner or the full-screen slackware boot splash screen [08:03] thrice`: that tux [08:03] he need that on boot up ! [08:03] right now we have that extint species [08:03] he said "slackware" though [08:03] z4zy3f (i=75c83471@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a721190a8c69209) joined ##slackware. [08:04] thrice`: he did mention penguin :P [08:05] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [08:06] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:07] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) joined ##slackware. [08:07] [HELP] [i m linux noob] my problem is i m not able to open websites even after connecting to internet !! i m able to ping ips but not able to ping websites (like google.com):( :'( any solution ? [OS=slackware12.2] [08:07] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:08] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) left ##slackware. [08:09] ? [08:09] z4zy3f: edit your /etc/resolv.conf [08:09] z4zy3f, show us the contents of /etc/resolv.conf [08:09] alisonken1noc: the full screen slackware boot splash screen? [08:09] with dns information [08:09] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:09] dusty_: there is a reply few lines above [08:10] sorry i want that black screen that says slackware the splash screen then it goes to the writing with the penguin in the top [08:10] ahh [08:10] init[1]: cool thats all i need? [08:10] init[1]: i don't use lilo to boot its dual boot with another linux and i use that linux bootloader (grub) [08:10] vga = 773 [08:10] ^^ [08:11] init[1]: i m currently using windows can u paste your resolv.conf file ? [08:11] read the man of gurb to change the mode i thnk you can do it without any config [08:11] z4zy3f: you isp gives it [08:11] coolio thanks [08:11] check your network properties [08:11] z4zy3f: [08:11] in windows [08:11] write down the dns information [08:12] its kinda 2-3 ip address [08:12] Darko (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-4378b0803c13e101) joined ##slackware. [08:12] init[1]: tried both ISP's DNS and open DNS but no luck :( [08:12] ezgumol (n=jk@dsl-olubrasgw1-fe42fb00-24.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [08:12] nameserver x.x.x.x.x [08:13] did you put that in that manner ? [08:13] err [08:13] too many x's there [08:13] dusty_: something like this (english is available): http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Slackware+Bootsplash?content=98310 [08:13] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.51.60) joined ##slackware. [08:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] straterra: :( [08:13] what? [08:13] isn't that an ip address ? [08:14] no [08:14] i mean x.x.x.x.x [08:14] x.x.x.x [08:14] for ipv4 [08:14] alisonken1noc: er, all he wants is the lilo OS selection screen [08:14] yes obvsly [08:14] idk what kind of network you use with that kind of length [08:14] there are only 4 fields [08:15] yess , init[1] [08:15] yess, lan ip addr [08:15] 192.168.1.1 [08:15] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-8b654c5fd89b8cba) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:16] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-d53f9d2d8f059300) joined ##slackware. [08:16] straterra: can you help z4zy3f [08:16] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: "¡Pero si no venia en el manual! (El que pulsó el botón)." [08:16] z4zy3f, can you ping hosts on the internet? like 74.125.67.100 ? [08:16] slava_dp: yes he can [08:17] init[1], please let him reply. [08:17] Darko (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-4378b0803c13e101) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:17] slava_dp: :P [08:18] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:18] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [08:19] init[1]: how old are you? Just curious.. [08:19] Guest70454 (n=root@92.82.88.82) joined ##slackware. [08:19] frullet: why [08:19] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Client Quit [08:19] can you PM me [08:19] im not that interested [08:20] frullet: did say somthing wrong ? [08:20] well... anyone that was in here earlier when I was asking about my missing /dev/video0 problem [08:20] yess i m able to [08:20] but not able to open web pages !! [08:20] slava_dp^^ [08:20] Channel flood from z4zy3f -- kicking [08:20] i m able to ping IPs but not able to ping websites and not able to open websites in browser :( this is my problem [08:20] z4zy3f kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [08:20] turns out, PICNIC problem! [08:20] frullet: can i pm you [08:21] so, yes, I'm an idiot :P [08:21] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) left irc: "Reconnecting" [08:21] init[1]: why? [08:21] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) joined ##slackware. [08:22] frullet: just want to talk to you ! :) [08:22] fair enough [08:22] may i [08:22] lol pebkac sounds funnier than picnic :) [08:22] z4zy3f (i=75c83471@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a721190a8c69209) joined ##slackware. [08:23] why u kicked me slackboy [08:23] ? [08:23] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.26.86) left irc: "‚»" [08:23] evo- (n=evo@p57A5430B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:23] z4zy3f: you probably glooded the channel [08:24] init[1]: i m not able to use IRC on slackware :( that's y i m currently using windows [08:24] z4zy3f: more than 3 lines ! [08:24] init[1]: msn is for talking, irc is strictly business [08:24] ;) [08:24] any soution ??? [08:25] z4zy3f, how do you connect to the internet? do you use dsl, a proxy, or a direct connection through a lan gateway? [08:25] i m using pppoe connection [08:25] pppoe-setup [08:26] direct no proxy [08:26] pihentagyu (n=doeppjak@89.123.202.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:26] jdoepp (n=doeppjak@89.123.202.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:26] hmm. that's what i use, too. strange. [08:27] so you can ping but can't resolve dns? [08:27] yess, i can ping IPs [08:27] but not able to ping website name [08:27] like google.com [08:27] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-142-77.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:28] you are able to ping the ip address of google.com if you try, right? [08:28] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-142-77.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:29] yess, [08:29] but not able to ping name>google.com !! [08:29] not a gateway problem then. the only other cause left is /etc/resolv.conf. [08:30] did you put in the right nameserver? [08:30] yess, i ill check that again [08:30] frullet: btw can i msn you :) [08:31] sorry if im nagging [08:31] i dont use msn [08:31] slava_dp: but wat i have to change in resolc.conf ?? [08:31] Then can i please PM ? you frullet [08:32] evo_ (n=evo@p57A538F5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:32] How to install flash player [08:32] init[1]: i guess [08:33] Guest70454: you dont, unless you want your browser crashing every five minutes [08:33] that's pretty shitty advise [08:34] Guest70454: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [08:34] z4zy3f, pppoe-start changes /etc/resolv.conf based on the dns addresses you provided when you did pppoe-setup. so redo pppoe-setup again with the right dns information. [08:35] evo_ (n=evo@p57A57B80.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] slava_dp: i ill try again !! ( i think 5 time) [08:36] z4zy3f, check dmesg [08:36] thrice`: im saving him the hassle of raging everytime his browser turds itself while tab-browing redtube.. [08:36] z4zy3f, tail -f /var/log/messages, than start your connection and you'll see what's going on. [08:36] s/browing/browsing/; [08:37] Guest70454 (n=root@92.82.88.82) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:37] oka slava_dp [08:37] z4zy3f, wish you luck [08:37] okay * [08:37] Nick change: BP{k}_ -> BP{k} [08:37] thanks for help :) [08:38] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [08:38] yw [08:39] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.51.60) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:41] slava_dp: i got similar problem, i mean with DNS and pppd, my /etc/ppp/resolv.conf gets created and it is populated with valid nameservers, however i have to add those manually to my /etc/resolv.conf (or copy /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to /etc/resolv.conf) - previously this was working "automagically" - isn't there a package something like dnsmasq that does the trick? [08:41] BrunoTheDwarf (i=1000@home.dwarven.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:42] mbohun, /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink! [08:43] ls -l /etc/resolv.conf --- >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2009-06-05 09:35 /etc/resolv.conf -> /etc/ppp/resolv.conf [08:43] well hmm - i know what you mean but listen to this mystery (a real X FILE follows) [08:43] mbohun, ln -lf /etc/ppp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf [08:43] yes i know - but that has a problem - let me explain [08:44] evo- (n=evo@p57A5430B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:44] so once upon of time [08:44] s/of/a :) [08:44] i yeah , ok [08:44] once upon a time [08:45] tooly (n=theo@e178166053.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [08:46] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:46] axius (n=root@92.82.88.204) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Hello [08:46] at home i have a little network so my computers (including this laptop) are on subnet 192.168.1.x (192.168.1.1 is the gateway, firewall, does NAT and my DNS), so while at home the /etc/resolv.conf looks something like: [08:46] search hacklberry.net [08:46] nameserver 192.168.1.1 [08:46] Channel flood from mbohun -- kicking [08:46] easy [08:46] mbohun kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [08:46] greetings from northern Canada:) [08:47] lmao [08:47] mbohun this is the second time your getting kicked [08:47] heh [08:47] i mean when i was here [08:47] slackboy is strict these days [08:47] evo- (n=evo@p57A55E1F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:47] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:47] slava_dp: not more than usual. [08:47] slava_dp: is slackboy bot? [08:47] ok (forgot the bot) [08:48] mbohun: lol .. do you remember my kernel support :) [08:48] i mean you gave me support [08:48] init[1]: yes he is [08:49] Action: frullet needs a coffee [08:49] me too, going for 2nd cup:) [08:49] Nick change: Drgb -> BOFH [08:49] now - these days everyone here (Melbourne) has and uses wireless broadband (usb modem that connects like a mobile phone to a 3g network), and that uses ppp connection (handy for browsing p0rn or slackware documentation at work :-)) [08:49] Action: alisonken1noc working on my second pot [08:50] axius (n=root@92.82.88.204) left irc: Client Quit [08:50] and previously (i used to use on this laptop slack 12.0 till March 2009) the magic with /etc/ppp/resolv.conf used to happen [08:51] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [08:53] cmk_zzz_ (n=martink@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [08:53] so i connected the wireless broadband, the ppp connection got established and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf was used - not only that but (!) /etc/resolv.conf HAD to be in place even if populated only with rubbish (meaning an unreachable nameserver) - i know this might sound weird but it is true, so /etc/resolv.conf was in place (not a symlink, and it was populated with info relevant to my LAN at home), however /etc/ppp/resolv.conf was used [08:53] hitest: whats up, long time no see ;) [08:55] evo_ (n=evo@p57A57B80.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:55] hiya frullet: I am well:) I've been messing with freebsd 7.2 for a bit, having fun:) how are oyu? [08:55] you [08:55] slava_dp: so the symlink (i think that can be even automated thru some ppp script) is a solution but rather only for users who use a ppp connection, once you start switching between LAN, ppp, etc. it get tedious [08:57] ezgumol (n=jk@dsl-olubrasgw1-fe42fb00-24.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:57] hitest: yeh doing well [08:58] awesome:) it is friday! yay [08:58] z4zy3f (i=75c83471@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a721190a8c69209) left irc: "mibbit.com: re-booting" [08:58] hitest: long weekend for me [08:58] lucky [09:00] i understood almost nothing from your long explanation, sorry mbohun :) i still do not see why you need to change the one in /etc/ to not be a symlink. [09:01] but never mind, i don't have time to think that through now. [09:03] i use wicd on my laptop and when i'm in the office it connects me to wifi automatically. when i'm at home it connects me to my default wired network seamlessly (when i plug in the cable). then i run pppoe-start and i'm online again. [09:03] evo_ (n=evo@p57A55EA3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:05] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) joined ##slackware. [09:06] future versions of wicd will support ppp :) [09:06] NaCl, i would hope. it'd be convenient. [09:08] It's in the planning stages right now. I have no idea when it's going to be done. [09:08] nvision (n=nvision@g229077243.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:08] it's great they even got to planning something like that. i imagine it's tough to implement. [09:11] slava_dp: well i think the reason why you never run into this problem is that at home you use DHCP that populates /etc/resolv.conf for you then when you use ppp some ppp script sets the link to /etc/ppp/resolv.conf, fair enough, my case is different because i don't use DHCP on my LAN at home, however i previously didn't have this (little) problem - like no one is dying in intensive care or anything... :-) [09:11] slava_dp: It is going to be quite a challenge. :) [09:12] i don't use dhcp. my addresses are configured statically by wicd. [09:13] evo- (n=evo@p57A55E1F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:13] ok, so i don't use wicd either - actually as a honest cowboy i have to admit that i've never before even heard about wicd [09:13] w00t. get it in /extra and have fun :) [09:14] If you are running -current, rworkman has packages for the 1.6 beta. I don't know how much longer it's going to be in beta, though. :D [09:14] evo- (n=evo@p57A53EEC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:15] change comes slow to the country, and we country bumpkin looks at everything we don't know with great suspicion - fire the shotgun first and yell get off me property :-) [09:15] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:19] SlackNeo1 (n=SlackNeo@190.176.141.215) left irc: "leaving" [09:22] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:23] evo_ (n=evo@p57A55EA3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:26] got to go, see you later, mbohun, NaCl and everyone. take care. [09:27] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [09:31] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:32] evo_ (n=evo@p57A568BB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.17) joined ##slackware. [09:38] kukman (n=kukman@91.198.249.12) joined ##slackware. [09:38] Hi. Where I can download your pkgtool sources from? [09:38] does somebody here use xchm ? [09:38] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:39] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: "Leaving" [09:39] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:39] kukman: source/ on a mirror [09:41] Action: slackaholic is away: almoçando... having lunch... [09:41] evo- (n=evo@p57A53EEC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:43] thrice`, Can you give me one of mirrors? [09:44] Action: agentc0re steals thrice`'s last mirror and runs for the hills [09:46] kukman: http://www.slackware.com/getslack/ [09:46] thx [09:47] what you need pkgtool sources for anyway? :) [09:48] axius (n=root@92.82.88.204) joined ##slackware. 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[09:58] stybla: well i have used xchm just for that i had to install the large wx lib [09:59] it was a bitter experiece with wx !:) [10:00] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:00] asarch: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/CRYPTO_NOTICE.TXT [10:00] init[1]: There's kchmviewer if you need to look at CHM's: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/office/kchmviewer/ [10:01] init[1]: yeah, wx was a pita. anyway, how does it come some pages are blackish? [10:01] asarch: check this one http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/README_CRYPT.TXT [10:01] evo_ (n=evo@p57A568BB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:01] init[1]: text is there, but half of the page has black background. [10:01] NaCl: problem is i dont use kde / kdelibs [10:01] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:02] stybla: lol .. did you install the binary for form source [10:02] init[1]: huh? [10:02] s/for form/or from/ ? [10:02] stybla: from .. typing speed sorry [10:03] for -> or [10:03] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] init[1]: It only needs Qt and chmlib, apparently [10:03] evo_ (n=evo@p57A569E4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] NaCl: ooh .. [10:04] Unless the VirtualBox people modified it. kchmviewer is included in VirtualBox [10:04] then why is it named Kchmviewer [10:04] i assumes it to be linked with it [10:04] *assumed [10:04] any way virtual box one doesn't have Image support [10:05] init[1]: from source. [10:05] init[1]: I see. [10:05] stybla: can you image bin screen [10:05] init[1]: http://www.kchmviewer.net/download.html [10:06] stybla: i think Kchmviewer would be good [10:06] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [10:06] NaCl: thank you .. checking it [10:07] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:07] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:08] init[1]: http://www.turnovfree.net/~stybla/tmp/xchm-foobar.png [10:09] init[1]: yes, i've found page with list of viewers couple minutes ago, so i'm going to try some - kchmviewer was first [10:10] stybla: kchmv.. would be a good choice [10:11] qt is a standard in LSB aka linux system base [10:11] you can remove wx :) [10:12] http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/lsb.shtml [10:12] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.87) left irc: "Auribus teneos lupus: I hold the wolf by the ears" [10:12] who cares about the LSB :) [10:12] BP{k}: :( but its always good to have standards right ? [10:12] init[1]: ok. [10:13] evo- (n=evo@p57A53AA9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:13] init[1]: depends on the standard. [10:13] init[1]: Sure, like warm and a pulse, right? [10:13] init[1]: after all LSB advocates RPM >* [10:14] zeronebones (n=zerone@ppp-94-64-228-46.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:14] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-142-77.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:15] BP{k}: :) well im not a RPM fan though but [10:16] Slackware package management without dependency check , is not welcomed by every one ! [10:16] thou i like [10:17] it [10:17] snowdonkeh (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:17] agentc0re: warm and pulse ? [10:17] agentc0re: what does that mean ? :) [10:18] agentc0re: guess init[1] has set a all new low standard :) [10:19] evo- (n=evo@p57A55830.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] init[1]: well, kchmviewer works. [10:19] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:20] init[1]: yet, they could have worked on installation part. [10:20] BP{k}: but if we migrate to some other system i would be difficult [10:20] *it [10:20] stybla: :) [10:20] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [10:20] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Client Quit [10:21] BP{k}: i think you're reading those manual :P [10:21] http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Desktop-generic/LSB-Desktop-generic/tocqt.html [10:22] init[1]: nope. I am working on $script. [10:22] BP{k}: :) ok [10:23] agentc0re: what is "warm and pulse" [10:23] I think LSB pretty much falls into the TLDR category [10:24] BP{k}: hmmm.. [10:24] zeronebones (n=zerone@ppp-94-64-228-46.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:24] BP{k}: can you tell me the meaning of "warm and pulse" [10:24] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:24] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:25] yes. [10:26] BP{k}: please proced [10:27] evo_ (n=evo@p57A569E4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:30] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [10:30] init[1]: I said I could, not that I was going to. Use your imagination. Or get out more. [10:30] dusty_ (n=dusty@linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: "leaving" [10:31] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:31] BP{k}: every one is capable of explaing things but under context its assumes you're going to explain :P [10:39] evo- (n=evo@p57A55830.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.17) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] hey BP{k} :) how's life? [10:42] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:43] hello world :) [10:43] hello [10:44] Plee: howdy :) no complains ts. How are you? [10:45] I'm quite ok :) Just returned to slack, from an unhealthy trip into debians world :) hehe [10:45] lol : http://www.newtechusa.com/PPI/pressroom.asp#higher "Higher Primates Can Program After VB.NET Training" ;p [10:45] hi Plee :) [10:45] :) [10:46] nice link :) [10:46] whats up [10:48] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-d53f9d2d8f059300) left irc: "Leaving" [10:50] I've just setup hostapd, and now I just need to figure out iptables :) [10:51] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@79.131.248.250) left irc: "Leaving" [10:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:53] polatov (n=polatov@88.204.253.112) joined ##slackware. [10:55] anyone knows if firefox has some kind of text to speech functionality? [10:55] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.159.133.2) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:55] NOobfarm should be back up within the hour.. I had to some scrambling :) [10:58] Has anyone used gnome DO before? [11:01] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [11:05] LnxSlck (i=1000@88.214.141.89) joined ##slackware. [11:06] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:07] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.77.200) left irc: "Leaving" [11:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-c9311468d8ec8646) left irc: [11:11] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-89ae5a27fbc19d63) joined ##slackware. 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[11:17] so.. right now everything depends on my registrar getting the name servers updated [11:17] which takes about an hour sometimes longer.. should be working before the ened of the day at least [11:17] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.26.86) joined ##slackware. [11:18] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:19] eh.. MIT is hitting my box [11:19] hk0i (n=hk0i@64.20.189.254) joined ##slackware. [11:20] I still get hits on my home box from sites I hosted 8 years ago. [11:21] they seem to ignore the 302 [11:21] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-10-37.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:21] hah [11:21] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [11:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:26] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:26] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [11:28] bijit (n=benji@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [11:28] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:29] axius (n=root@92.82.77.200) left irc: "Leaving" [11:30] cmk_zzz_ (n=martink@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:30] mwnn (n=user@59.92.192.237) joined ##slackware. [11:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] any good tool to monitor outgoing mails? [11:33] define 'monitor' [11:35] hmm see who sending mail to what email..if its going out of the box successfully [11:35] is this on your SMTP server? [11:35] tail the logs of your mail daemon? [11:36] yes [11:36] then check 'mailq' and your logs [11:37] mwnn (n=user@59.92.192.237) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:37] thanks [11:38] Guys, is it worthwhile installing xampp on Slackware? [11:39] xampp? [11:39] winamp clone? [11:39] sorry for the off-topic, but does any web developers know if it's possible to ignore the DPI setting so text appears correctly on a web page? [11:39] Dominian: nope... xampp = Apache/MySQL/PHP/PERL (it seems) [11:39] jplcrd: your answer /No/ [11:40] (for the simple fact that all that comes already with slackware) [11:40] ah [11:40] Slackware has all of that [11:40] BP{k}: Thats what I thought. [11:40] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-14-187-176.singnet.com.sg) left ##slackware. [11:40] BP{k}: But xampp comes with a tidy little interface.. :P [11:40] jplcrd: woopie-doo .. :P [11:41] I just started teaching myself about LAMP [11:41] the AMP part ;) [11:41] axius (n=root@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [11:42] antiwire: LAMP is no longer supported by apache friends, its all xampp now :) [11:42] uuh what? [11:42] jplcrd, who told you? [11:42] what is "apache friends" [11:43] Action: BP{k} hands antiwire a microsoft natural keybarod to slap jplcrd with :) [11:43] is that this interface you're talking about? [11:43] because I can assure you that LAMP is working just fine for me [11:44] antiwire, so.. still using linux are you? hehehe [11:44] Dominian, noobfarm not loading ! :D [11:44] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:44] antiwire: haha I don't mean the combination of mediums (linux apache, etc...) but the actual ide developed by apache friends. [11:44] apache friends is a group of buddys that are making xampp thingie (all in one installation + web interface) [11:44] axius (n=root@92.82.77.200) left irc: Client Quit [11:44] that's cute [11:45] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [11:45] Plee: yes? [11:45] :) as in L(amp) [11:46] Plee: oh what I meant was until now I've really just used Linux as a desktop and fileserver but I've never really gotten into the AMP stuff [11:46] ah :) [11:46] my bad :) [11:46] hehe [11:47] jplcrd, for people like me that use the tools that slackware (and linux) gives me, LAMP is very much alive and functioning. I can't see why I should add another dependency just to get what LAMP gives me.. [11:49] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Plee: I see what your saying. My original question was if it was worthwhile to even install xampp on Slackware, simply because I assume that it makes it that much easier to manage all of the involved web resources. [11:49] not to mention what problem you might create by installing possible d ifferent versions of software (ie what exists in xampp and in slackware) (and it's a lot more than just mysql/apache/perl/php) [11:51] jplcrd: If you can just install this interface you spoke of then I don't see a big issue but if it requires installing everything I dunno [11:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [11:51] BP{k}: It does conflict with Slackware's existing versions of MySQL, apachet, etc... [11:51] if you have to install everything it could be messy [11:51] jplcrd, well, after a little editing in the different config files, it's all about start and stop.. and as little of both as possible. :) Therefore my opinion is that it's not worth it [11:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [11:52] Plee: Can I /q you with a couple of questions? [11:52] as long as you do it here :)' [11:52] axius (n=root@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Man, I woke up in a super hypoglycemic mode [11:54] axius, don't surf and irc as root :) create a user, and use that one [11:55] axius (n=root@92.82.77.200) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:55] Your powers are strong ;) [11:55] He used the force! [11:56] hehe [11:56] haha [11:56] axius1 (n=root@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [11:56] lol [11:56] not that strong [11:57] as root, once again. [11:57] Or, he only set his ident to 'root. [11:57] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Higly unlikely, but still a possibility. [11:57] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:58] Unlikely, taking into consideration he isn't registered with nickserv. [11:58] axius1 (n=root@92.82.77.200) left irc: Client Quit [11:58] Nickserv doesnt have anything to do with that [11:58] n=root :: no identd response [11:58] leonardoav_ (n=leonardo@201.22.27.181) joined ##slackware. [11:59] i=root :: identd response says "root" [11:59] (I think) [11:59] i'd put random stuff in my ident (if i allowed that service) just to tick people off 8-) [12:00] axius (n=root@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Nick change: axius -> axius1 [12:00] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!root@*' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [12:02] "only a Sith (or Stx) deals in absolutes!" ;-) [12:03] just be sure you don't mis-quote that [12:04] it was being used in the sense of "all or nothing" mentality [12:04] I was just about to set my realname and username to root :o [12:05] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:05] BP{k} ;o) [12:05] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.83.187) joined ##slackware. [12:09] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:10] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-63-202.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] axius1 (n=root@92.82.77.200) left irc: "Leaving" [12:11] Is anyone around who has ordered a Slackware t-shirt? [12:11] how goes it rob0? [12:12] veritos (i=80d05f21@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-74a41c7ad3e2aa6f) joined ##slackware. [12:13] So if I install a package then uninstall it, none of the symlinks would be removed? [12:13] rawr [12:14] nheco (n=nheco@201-14-223-199.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:14] veritos: what did you smoke? [12:14] veritos: They should be removed as long as no other package that you may have installed since has those same links. [12:15] Okay, I was just wondering if the files installed by a doinst.sh would be recognized as part of that file, that's all. [12:15] On the more handholding distros, they're not. [12:15] veritos: dont sniff glue, its not good for you [12:16] Does anyone know what the approximate body size to Slackware t-shirt size conversion is? [12:16] Well the nameservers and registrar are updated for noobfarm, but still feedin the wrong IP.. waiting on the ROOT servers now.. argh [12:16] antiwire: probally on the site? [12:16] spook: If it was I wouldn't be asking you guys. [12:16] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [12:16] veritos (i=80d05f21@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-74a41c7ad3e2aa6f) left irc: Client Quit [12:16] antiwire: just get a XL [12:16] That would probably be like a dress for me [12:17] so man up, and get a decent torso [12:17] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:17] haha [12:17] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.77.200) left irc: Client Quit [12:19] wicd 1.6 yay [12:20] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:20] Action: BP{k} reads noobfarm :D [12:20] Mashandar (n=ben@121.219.252.169) joined ##slackware. [12:20] hello everyone [12:21] I guess medium for a ~140lbs 5'8" (~64kg ~172cm)? [12:22] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:23] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Greetings everyone. :) [12:23] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.89.57) left irc: "leaving" [12:23] antiwire: you ARE small [12:23] Action: Elektro_{-_-}_ is away: Actualmente no estoy disponible [12:23] a little stout too :) [12:23] firebird619: howdy, how's tricks? [12:23] stout? [12:23] Elektro_{-_-}_: nice knowing you. [12:23] yeah right my ribs show [12:23] Elektro_{-_-}_: turn that shit, and that nick off [12:24] BP{k}: you're going soft. [12:24] I'm probably more like 135 [12:25] wow [12:25] eat some meat [12:25] Hey BP{k}, it's going great, thanks. yourself? [12:25] a 250 lb girl just snuck up on me [12:25] and told me the lakers won [12:26] i want to know how she snuck up on me. [12:26] lol [12:26] maybe she was trying to eat you [12:26] i've accepted the fact the asshole lakers won [12:26] jeev: shes a ninja [12:26] jeev: in future, set yourself on fire. [12:26] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.161.28) joined ##slackware. [12:26] bears seem to just pop up out of no where when they attack people in the woods [12:26] spook, no kidding [12:26] she's nearly two times my body dang! [12:26] she said "you'll see me at the parade" [12:26] i hope she's not jumping up and down at the parade [12:26] she'll be one of the floats [12:26] lol HoldMyPocket [12:27] i dont know if she's 250 actually cause i'm 200 right now [12:27] and she seems like she's twice me [12:27] jeev: it will be hard to not see her [12:27] i'm j ust tall and bigger so that's why [12:27] spook, this is LA.. there are maybe a couple million clones of her [12:27] http://www.createblog.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t146516.html [12:27] well be careful man [12:27] leonardoav_ (n=leonardo@201.22.27.181) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:27] i hate LA [12:27] so I'm proportional but small [12:27] personally [12:28] HoldMyPocket: sucks to be you ^_^ [12:28] i'm moving for LA me thinks [12:28] is that including american's overweigt people/ [12:28] I live in San Diego which is fine [12:28] it probably is only america's overweight people [12:28] necos, i hate the lakers [12:28] but LA seems to have all the bad qualities of SD and in bigger proportions [12:28] lol [12:28] wow 5'3 143/ [12:28] lol no one said you had to like the lakers =p [12:28] jeev: well remember that the US doesn't have nearly the highest population [12:28] my girlfriend is 5'3 107 probably [12:28] 5'3 143 is heavy, no ? [12:28] i'm 5'7 155 [12:28] not really >.> [12:29] for a girl [12:29] HoldMyPocket: ah see you're not too much bigger than me [12:29] not even, heh... [12:29] i sound like im tooting my horn here but i work out a lot and i'm low body fat [12:29] 5'3 143 is danny devito. is danny devito heavy? :P [12:29] i'm not huge [12:29] Necos, you have a crush on Serina Williams [12:29] but i'd say i'm fit [12:29] antiwire actually yea [12:29] he's a little fatsol [12:29] i thought danny devito was like 4'11 [12:29] HoldMyPocket: I've got the reverse curse [12:29] HoldMyPocket: can't keep it on [12:29] my ex is 4'11 [12:29] i'm 6'1 [12:29] antiwire: i have the same problem as you [12:30] god, your ex's are tiny [12:30] yuck =p [12:30] Action: eviljames likes 'em that way [12:30] antiwire: i consume over 3000 calories a day just to maintain muscle and usually consume closer to 5500 to build [12:30] hah, my ex is 4,11" and i am 6'1" too [12:30] i pretty much eat all day long at work [12:30] it's awesome [12:30] dtanner cool [12:30] HoldMyPocket: damn, you eat about 50% more calories than me per day lol [12:31] oh man im tired of people who "build" [12:31] hahah [12:31] i can't lift weights anymore, everything from shoulders to back hurts [12:31] HoldMyPocket: yep, I covert calories to hot air pretty well ;) [12:31] sounds pompous, yeah [12:31] i dont even go to the gym to play ball at the gym beacuse im tired of the people "building" staring at themselves [12:31] trying to flex every single muscle [12:31] ubergay [12:31] jeev: i'm actually really active so it's more than just vanity for me [12:31] take away the mirrors please thank god ok [12:31] lets see how many people will be in there "building" without mirrors [12:32] ! [12:32] jeev: The best part about those guys is they're 6'2, 250lbs, solid muscle, but if you punch them in the face they cry and cry like a 12 year old girl. [12:32] lol [12:32] eviljames: i have guys in my muay thai class that are built like that, afraid to get hit [12:32] firebird619: I'm good. [12:32] LOL [12:32] HoldMyPocket: hahahahah WTF [12:32] they get rocked by people much smaller [12:32] mma bodybuilder who doesn't need a mirror? :P [12:33] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-10-37.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [12:33] For sure I believe it. There's a difference between a thin guy with wiry muscle who isn't afraid to be hit and one of those dudes. [12:33] a HUGE difference. [12:33] i'll corner a guy with just leg kicks and get him into a clinch and he's just all defense [12:33] lol [12:33] Canaman (n=danielm@200.19.177.1) joined ##slackware. [12:33] j0k3r_ (i=500@unaffiliated/j0k3r) joined ##slackware. [12:34] they're like gigantic mobile punching bags [12:34] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] i'll kill you with a fart [12:34] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [12:34] i dont even have to work out [12:35] i'll take them to the ground and say, this is what happens when you use things like 'up2date, yum and rpm' you die. then snap their neck [12:35] Canaman (n=danielm@200.19.177.1) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [12:35] lol [12:35] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:35] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:35] i hate hearing someone say 'JUST YUM INSTALL' [12:36] i hate hearing someone say, "add the repo" [12:36] wtf? you have to look for repos? [12:36] get a life [12:36] lol sad [12:36] i'm not linux expert by any means, but not all but a lot of fedora/ubuntu users are really annoying to me [12:36] it's like buying butter and opening it up and there is no plastic covering it [12:37] HoldMyPocket, the name fedora or ubuntu is annoying to me [12:37] slackware was out before i had my first pubes (i think) [12:37] 'fedora' sounds good [12:37] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.87) joined ##slackware. [12:38] yeah same here [12:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] ... [12:39] what f00l [12:39] as if i wanted to hear about your pubes... [12:39] how are you going to drive through koreatown today ? [12:39] it's raining and it's koreatown [12:39] walk dumbass [12:39] lol [12:39] EVEN MORE DANGEROUS! [12:40] apperently, you didn't grow up in koreatown [12:40] duh [12:41] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [12:42] if you're eating Kim Bop or Kimchi i doubt it's that dangerous [12:42] i'm IN SOUTH KOREA and it's not that dangerous [12:42] lol [12:42] hahaha That's right about the last place I'd want to be right now... [12:42] MrHales1 (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [12:43] you gotta learn all the backroutes >.> [12:43] <.< [12:43] axius (n=ubuntu@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [12:43] TwinReverb: How's the kimchi? Good & spicy? [12:44] yes very much so [12:44] you should facebook me, i have tons of pictures from places like that [12:44] I used to sell meat at a farmer's market, and the dudes in the booth next to ours made kimchi and mundoo. *drool* SO GOOD. [12:44] axius (n=ubuntu@92.82.77.200) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:44] i love kim bop and kimchi to death [12:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:44] I don't know kim bop.. [12:44] Action: eviljames googles [12:45] Action: TwinReverb is listening to WJOE 24/7 Pink Floyd and they just started playing MONEY!! 8-) [12:45] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] you don't know kim bop? omg u suck!!!! 8-| [12:45] i don't know ANYONE who does't tap their foot to the song Money in the clubs [12:45] the fock kinda club plays money?? [12:45] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:46] no the point is IF they play it .... [12:46] that song comes on the radio here at Kunsan AB and everyone loves it [12:46] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.138.202) joined ##slackware. [12:46] regardless of where they grew up, what race they are, what rank, what gender [12:46] antler: The real question is, what kind of ridiculous club WOULDN'T Play money? [12:46] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [12:47] TwinReverb: I'm googling for gimbap (kim bop?) atm... [12:47] k [12:47] u still suck though 8-P [12:47] eviljames: floyd's good, don't get me wrong. typical clubs, however, aren't into playing good music; they're more about popular music [12:48] You speak too much truth. [12:48] and s/popular/horrible/ it would be equally true. [12:49] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] look up WJOE on shoutcast.com [12:49] so is there a slackpkg tool for slackware64? [12:49] Yep. [12:49] It's called "slackpkg" [12:49] berke, uh yes and you can check via www.slackware.org/getslack [12:49] cool, do I have to pick a special mirror, or just use linuxpackages? [12:49] yey :) got hostapd and stuff to work :) [12:49] ls: cannot access /home/slackware64-current/slackware/*/slackpkg*tgz: No such file or directory [12:50] drat 8-( [12:50] berke: don't use linxpackages kthxbai. [12:50] hahaha [12:50] try *txz instead [12:50] linuxpackages.net kitty says @#$^*(#JNK)PO [12:53] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-current/slackware64/ap/slackpkg-2.71.2-noarch-1.tgz definitely exists [12:53] Yep.. it exists [12:53] PiterPunk has a newer version out he wanted tested [12:53] something about changes to $ARCH [12:53] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-10-37.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:55] ok looks like some traffic is redirecting to noobfarm [12:55] TwinReverb: So this is similar to Maki... [12:57] eviljames: kimbab's good, but not that great. it's a fast food akin to our hamburger or fries [12:58] how did you see the traffic redirecting to noobfarm? the noobascope? [12:58] so to make a package I download source, do configure, make, and then makepkg is that right? [12:58] When I'm building a very simple php driven webpage, what is the best practice for mysql usernames? do I just add a user to the DB for the php code to use that is specific to that php page or do I do it by creating an 'httpd' user for the db? any suggestions? [12:59] eviljames: (only much healthier) [12:59] TwinReverb: I think he actually uses a noobatron with noobariphic plugins [12:59] noobtastic [12:59] all the mirrors in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors are for slackware 12.2, can I use those for slackware64 or do I need a new mirror? [13:00] i wouldn't use slackpkg on slackware64-current right yet [13:01] you could try but my opinion is try it with caution (everything in -current is with caution) [13:01] TwinReverb: It's worked fine for me. [13:01] and be sure you back up your information [13:01] NaCl, cool thanks [13:01] so i guess it's good to go then [13:01] im not looking forward to dependency hell again [13:01] 8=B5@5A=K9 D0:B. @0718@0N A:20H DA [13:01] 8 A>18@0N A@07C [13:01] TwinReverb: some tweaking to /etc/slackpkg.conf was required, thoug [13:01] 1K; 30 AB0; 10<1 [13:01] is there a slack64builds yet? or do I just use slackbuilds? [13:01] slackpkg does nothing for dependencies [13:02] kukman (n=kukman@91.198.249.12) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:02] berke, slackware doesn't screw with dependencies [13:02] berke, check with NaCl [13:02] tooly (n=theo@e178166053.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [13:02] Action: TwinReverb is now known as HCl [13:02] i know, im saying that I have to manually compile all dependencies, if a package I want has 4 deps, I need to manually compile them all instead of just slackpkg install dep1 dep2 dep3 etc [13:03] well compile or find someone trustworthy that keeps a package repository like alienBOB or rworkman [13:03] Understood, but that isn't slackpkg managing dependencies, it's just you knowing to install the deps. [13:03] berke: slackpkg only pulls packages from the official repo [13:03] google either of those two names and you'll see what i mean [13:03] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:04] i know what your all saying, Im just saying its easier to slackpkg install deps manually than it is to compile manually [13:04] For some definition of easier, yes. [13:04] But, not everyone looks at every problem the same. Hooray for choice. [13:04] berke: I am sure there are other distro's that work that way. [13:04] slackpkg is not a panacea. It does make managing -current much easier, though [13:04] well lets have an abstract intellectual debate about what the hell "easier" means just so we can have something to type in here [13:04] there should be a separate channel for you canadian personnel. [13:05] jeev: It's called #rational :D [13:05] 0_o [13:05] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [13:05] hahah [13:05] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:05] sup slackers ;) [13:06] heh [13:06] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:06] not slacking, apart from using slackware [13:06] you have been slacked [13:07] I'm working on my little game [13:07] what sort of game [13:07] so can I use slackbuilds or do I need to wait for slack64builds? [13:07] btw for those folks using -current, rworkman has pushed out packages for wicd 1.6 at http://slackware.com/~rworkman/wicd [13:07] [13:07] ttyX: a balloon game :P [13:08] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [13:08] I thought pacman warhead :p [13:08] heh, nah [13:08] "pushed out packages..." sounds as if he has strong sphincter muscles [13:08] berke: slackbuilds.org [13:09] wicd 1.6 hmm interesting [13:09] berke: read the template [13:09] It tells you how to create a multi-arch slackbuild [13:09] Dominian: what template are you referring to? [13:09] slackbuilds.org SlackBuild template... [13:09] oh no. [13:10] antiwire: ohn0es!? [13:10] omg WJOE is playing The Division Bell [13:10] \o/ [13:11] what app is called wjoe and is division bell associated with at&t bell labs? [13:11] Sounds like WJOE is a radio station. :P [13:11] is bell labs even still around? [13:11] Bell has no reason to maintain a lab, companies don't care much for R&D these days. [13:11] Mashandar: Dennis Ritchie is :p [13:12] It's an expense that could be cut to make way for executive compensation and increased shareholder value. [13:12] Ok where's the birthday cake [13:12] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-224.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Unix turned 40 [13:12] wow, neat [13:12] eviljames: btw, I hacked together a hardware adapter so I could plug a fullsize optical drive into this Sun box and I managed to boot the Solaris 10 SPARC disk. I got through the installer but it bombed out saying no disks formatted. [13:12] antiwire: I tried opensolaris today [13:12] antiwire: I saw a thing or two about that yesterday, cool beans.. except for the sol10 not working [13:13] I have no fscking clue wtf I'm doing with Solaris 10 [13:13] and its the slowest os ever for me [13:13] MrHales1 (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [13:13] took 4 hours to install [13:13] using the live cd [13:13] Impressive [13:13] sol 10 should work but it seems like it's not detecting the scsi disks properly [13:14] ttyX: OpenSolaris was not intended to run on spare parts. put it on real hardawre. [13:14] eviljames: x86 am talkin bout here [13:14] my lappy [13:14] ttyX: Your lappy? Celeron 1.6GHz w/ 1GB of ram or something along those lines? [13:14] oda (n=oda@labmap.ime.usp.br) joined ##slackware. [13:15] nope [13:15] p4 2.66ghz [13:15] its ancient [13:15] but slackworks like a charm [13:15] Yeah, Linux runs fine on scrap parts. Solaris was not engineered that way. [13:15] one of those laptops that converts electricity to heat [13:15] configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [13:15] guess slackbuilds doesnt work [13:15] berke: I bet you didn't fix the build script did you [13:15] antiwire: yeah used to be until I cleaned my monster heatsink [13:16] antiwire: As for Sol 10, I won't claim to be an expert there.. but does it provide any useful error messages? [13:16] three fans in this [13:16] how do I fix it? [13:16] eviljames: all i got was "no formatted disks" [13:16] antiwire: ...did you use the format command? :P [13:16] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [13:16] yumm [13:16] berke: ARCH="x86_64" ./.SlackBuild [13:16] breakfast burrito [13:17] yum that reminds me of fedora [13:17] eviljames: but also, I was researching it a bit and I see there is a probe-scsi-all command for the ok console [13:17] yum. jeev make me one. [13:17] antiwire: Yeah, Sol is a much different beast from linux. Prepare for a massive learning curve. [13:17] I really wanna try fed ora 11 [13:17] hmm that seemed to work, I didnt know slackbuild scripts took flags [13:17] bought it [13:17] eviljames: The scsi disks are formatted for linux (debian 4 is installed). Where would I use the format command? [13:18] is that during the install process? because if i just let it boot off the DVD it goes right into installation [13:18] but why does it make a .tgz when I thought everything was becoming .txz? [13:18] berke: -current and 64 use txz... [13:18] not 12.2 [13:19] berke: Did you read the script before you ran it? [13:19] antiwire: prompt, just run "format" it should provide you with some info about the disks... [13:19] eviljames: the 'ok' prompt? [13:20] im using 64 [13:20] so that seems right [13:20] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] antiwire: Like I say, I won't pretend to be an expert with solaris10.. I only installed it a handful of times before OpenSolaris started happening... osol should run on that system (albeit not perfectly for desktop use) [13:20] berke: you need to start reading the -current and 64 changelogs.... [13:20] I thought they said all packages for 64 were becoming txz [13:20] berke: I don't mean this in an assholish way but waiting for the versioned releases might be better. [13:21] berke: 64 and -current are not releases! [13:21] they are the work in progress trees [13:21] antiwire: thank you I knew that [13:21] they're are ike debian unstable tree [13:21] ttyX: not really because -current and 64 for slakware actually work lol [13:21] slightly more stable though :p [13:22] berke: so then you know that txz applies ot -current and slackware64 only and not any of the released versions yet. [13:22] yes I did know that [13:22] (nor to the slackbuilds, which are community maintained) [13:22] antiwire: I really don't like unstable tree of debian coz most of the times I end up struggling with broken deps [13:22] I AM using slackware64 [13:22] and that plainly sux [13:23] berke: and you're trying to use slackbuilds.org and asking questions about why it is spitting out tgz... [13:23] ttyX: if you think that's bad, try the ubuntu alphas ;) [13:23] berke: SBo is really setup for versioned releases so they use tgz still... [13:24] well I asked if slackware64 can use slackbuilds.org, and was told yes [13:24] NaCl: am allergic to buntus [13:24] and you can... [13:24] And support is being built-in... [13:24] just replace .tgz with txz [13:24] that works [13:24] NO! [13:24] yes [13:24] Or just install the tgz packages. [13:24] the pkgtools for current and slackware64 support tgz and txz... [13:24] you don't need to change anything wtf. [13:24] i mean if ur on current [13:25] Anybody want to buy an electron microscope? $400 or so..? http://www.govdeals.com/eas/itmDisplay.cfm?itemID=1875&acctID=685 [13:25] likeme [13:25] ttyX: it doesn't matter. [13:25] k I get it [13:25] compression algorithm matters right? [13:25] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [13:25] omfg. [13:25] how many times [13:25] It just makes the packages smaller. [13:25] ttyX: If you're allergic to buntus, debian should cause anaphylactic shock. [13:25] Nothing more [13:25] current and slackware64 support BOTH. [13:25] antiwire: I know [13:26] eviljames, so we could find your winky with it ? [13:26] -current also supports .tbz packages. :P [13:26] but I change tgz with txz [13:26] better compression [13:26] it does not matter if you feed them txz or tgz it will work. SBo uses tgz still because SBo is designed for versioned releases. If you're using -current or slackware64 you should be following the Changelogs [13:26] this would all make much more sense that way [13:26] wow, quite a few people here don't like ubuntu [13:27] jeev: that joke fell flatter than your last gf... [13:27] lol [13:27] Mashandar: most slackers are allergic to it [13:27] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:27] my current girlfriend is flatter than last one [13:27] but i dont care. [13:27] but hey I don't hate any distro [13:27] jeev: You put an extra "l" in there. [13:27] ttyX: ahh [13:28] ? [13:28] I don't have any problems with ubuntu or debian, but I do prefer slackware and similiar distributions [13:28] unc724 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Nick change: unc724 -> mwi648 [13:28] same here Mashandar [13:28] jeev: fLatter... :P [13:28] as they all target different audience [13:28] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.157.5) joined ##slackware. [13:29] that's what i said [13:29] ttyX: indeed, best tool for the job, and all that [13:29] yep [13:29] jeev: I know, I'm saying having the L in there was a mistake... nevermind, explaining jokes makes them unfunny.. [13:29] it's dead, jim [13:29] tuf893 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:30] afk for a bit [13:30] (now THAT one worked in so many ways) [13:31] explaining jokes is like banging your head on the wall [13:33] after today I know one thing that opensolaris is one distro which I'll stay away from for a long time [13:33] ttyX: Why? osol is very nice. [13:33] oh [13:33] she's not fatter, she's skinner [13:33] it takes ages to install [13:33] skinnier [13:33] 4 hours lol [13:34] spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:34] osol didn't take 4 hours to install on my system evne in a VM [13:34] and then booting takes like 5-10 minutes [13:34] it took probably 1 hour and that was a VM [13:34] ttyX: haha, 4 hours. It didin't take near that long for me, like around half hour, 45 minutes tops. [13:34] in my vbox it doesn't even start [13:34] ttyX: As I mentioned before, osol wasn't built to be run on scrap parts. [13:34] ttyX: Do you have more than 1GB of ram? [13:34] ttyX is using an abacus [13:34] lol [13:35] ttyX: Oh wait, you're on a laptop with this. *sigh* [13:35] antiwire: in that case slack runs well on abacus [13:35] firebird619: a P4 laptop :P [13:35] lol [13:35] eviljames: oh man, osol wasn't designed for a lappy. :P [13:35] and I thought suse was slow [13:35] every time ttyX says something after me, i think im saying [13:35] I did osol in a KVM VM on a core duo (not a core2) and used 800 megs of ram for the VM. it took about 1 hour [13:36] firebird619: Runs fine on my laptop. C2D w/ 2GB ram. [13:36] His isn't a c2d with 2gb though. [13:36] if I had a high end system I'd be using slack with kde4 [13:36] That I could see it running fine on. [13:37] ttyX: Did it really take 5-10 minutes to boot? :P [13:37] firebird619: no kidding [13:37] wow [13:37] ttyX: Slack w/ kde4 should run fine on a p4 w/ 1gb (or even 512, but it might be sluggish there..) [13:37] axius (n=Samyr@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [13:37] next stop freebsd :D [13:38] BSD will be a rocketship. [13:38] I know [13:38] I tried it few years back [13:38] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.39) joined ##slackware. [13:38] its great [13:38] ports are awsome [13:38] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.26.86) left irc: "‚»" [13:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:40] I've got a Kayak XM600 on which am supposed to install slack [13:40] ancient hardware [13:41] PIII [13:41] with some 300megs of ram and 20gb hdd [13:41] eviljames: do you think BSD of soem flavor would be better for that v120? [13:42] I guess it could be the world's loudest firewall [13:42] Do all Sun boxes sound like the space shuttle taking off? [13:42] antiwire: Assuming it runs on SPARC, probably. [13:42] antiwire: lol ! [13:42] antiwire: No. They all sound like a field of airplanes taking off simultaneously. [13:43] hahaha [13:43] antiwire: Really, I think you're best off putting 2GB of ram into that sucker and installing osol. [13:43] mwnn (n=mwnn@59.92.192.237) joined ##slackware. [13:43] antiwire: Then running svcadm disable gdm (no xorg/graphical desktop) [13:43] eviljames: I think you're right. Even the SOL10 install bitched about the 512 [13:43] better go for freebsd [13:44] Indeed. With 2gb it should be acceptable, and opensolaris is a huge pile of win. [13:44] eviljames: I wish osol supported DVD/CD booting for SPARC [13:44] ttyX: That's not a terrible idea. FBSD is incorporating a number of cool techs from the Solaris side (ZFS, DTrace...) [13:44] antiwire: Soon, it will... SPARC has been the bastard stepchild for osol it seems, but support is finally there. [13:44] yep thats exactly why I said that [13:45] why does solaris/opensolaris have such high req? [13:45] hmmhmmm the v120 is on the FBSD list [13:45] awesome. [13:45] Mashandar: It's just different architecturally. It was originally designed to be run on very large, very specific hardware. Sun didn't deviate from that to cater to the folks who wanted to run it on bits of scrap. [13:45] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc2-seve19-2-0-cust983.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "leaving" [13:46] eviljames: ahh, ok [13:46] Mashandar: Further, it's designed for high-throughput applications, not so much general purpose computing. [13:46] like a nice E450 ;) [13:46] what happened to oracle [13:46] so it has higher req, but uses the power more efficiently? [13:46] I mean they were supposed to take over [13:47] ttyX: The deal hasn't cleared SEC yet afaik. [13:47] Mashandar: That's a nice way to think of it. Not always true, but.. :D [13:47] eviljames: heh [13:47] Mashandar: or, rather, not true in every case. [13:47] I guess it's like comparing a sports car to a tractor [13:47] oh I thought it just didn't click [13:47] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [13:48] the tractor is slower, but has higher horsepower, etc. [13:48] Something along those lines. [13:49] right [13:49] I get it then [13:49] Whereas Linux, for sure, is better for general purpose, especially on machines that aren't 30g's! [13:49] i think the term is torque [13:49] vs horsepower [13:49] Hell, with the right setup, Linux is definitely the ferrari of the pair [13:49] tank-man: ahh, ok [13:50] Linux is BMW [13:50] ferraris suck [13:50] :p [13:50] i take it you speak from personal experience, you former ferrari owner, you.... [13:50] bmw is the poor man's benz [13:50] my car knowledge is limited to this: you jump in a car and it goes brooom! [13:50] i thought cars go vroom [13:50] polatov (n=polatov@88.204.253.112) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:51] HoldMyPocket: only expensive ones [13:51] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] ahh i see [13:51] Linux is a kit car [13:51] I worship only two companies [13:51] antiwire: Yeah, I threw my ferrari way.. just wasn't good enough. [13:51] err [13:51] BMW & Mitsubishi [13:51] tab complete fail, antler was the victim for that ferrari comment. [13:51] Lancer Evo kix arse [13:51] throw it in the gutta' and go buy anotha' [13:51] rally racing = boring compared to baja [13:52] axius (n=Samyr@92.82.77.200) left irc: "Leaving" [13:52] Lancer Evo X looks fugly though [13:52] wrc has gotten so boring over the past year [13:52] I haven't tried running solaris/opensolaris on this yet. I should be able to run it, I have 3gb of ram [13:52] baja is basically wide open for a 1000 miles through a huge field full of cows [13:52] Mashandar: and a decent processor? [13:52] Mashandar: goodluck [13:52] that's not really true at all [13:52] dual core 2ghz [13:53] Mashandar: Looks good, does it support EM64T? [13:53] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:53] I know, just being a jerk [13:53] 2ghz dualcore which proccy is that? [13:53] it's okay i still love you [13:53] eviljames: dunno [13:53] maybe the e4000 series [13:53] what's EM64T? [13:53] ttyX: core 2 duo [13:53] Mashandar: intel's implementation of amd64... [13:53] ahh [13:54] I'm pretty sure it would [13:54] anyone on the new ubuntu and have a tv card with mythtv up and running? :P [13:54] Mashandar: Do you know the # of the procesor? (T5450, E6400...) [13:54] I bought the laptop, like, a few months ago [13:54] Action: ttyX is a self confessed AMD/ATI fanboy [13:54] ttyX: That's unfortunate... what date did you have your lobotomy done? [13:54] eviljames: T6400 or something along those lines, not exactly sure [13:54] eviljames: is there any way to check for sure? [13:54] eviljames: can't remeber exactly [13:55] ttyX: you probably already had it then [13:55] Mashandar: If it's a t6400 I can say for sure it has em64t, but not vtx (virtualization stuff) [13:55] :P [13:55] well, I'm not big for virtualisation anyway [13:55] Mashandar: cat /proc/cpuinfo should tell you more. [13:55] at least, not until they get some 3d hardware acceleration in [13:56] AMD kix Intel's arse at Virtualization [13:56] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:56] smelly cat, smelly cat.. what are they feeding you [13:56] Mashandar: I was thinking about if you tried to install in a VM (which you should before trying on bare hardware) [13:56] yep, it's a T6400 [13:56] ttyX: They also kick intel's ass at converting electricity directly into heat without doing any useful work. [13:56] eviljames: ahh [13:56] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] eviljames: that's what my p4 lappy does [13:57] and my p4 desktop [13:57] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [13:57] AMD has ATI, who's GPU's sure beat Intel's arse [13:57] Mashandar: Toss it under virtualbox, give it 1gb ram, and 10gb or so of disk space to play with first. Installing on bare hw w/o a fair bit of preparation makes for an ugly dualboot setup. [13:57] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.95.69) joined ##slackware. [13:57] intel has one up on both ati and nvidia: power consumption is lower :P [13:57] eviljames: hehe, yea, I've installed solaris on some of my old machines. not pretty when it comes to cleanup [13:57] eviljames: I doubt its 'smoothness' [13:57] on a vm [13:58] anyone have an alreadybe account [13:58] TwinReverb: there's no use worrying about power consumption if the GPU can't do the job in the first place [13:58] ttyX: I use opensolaris every day, it's the only OS on my workstation, my laptop dual boots it and virtualizes it, same with my desktop. [13:58] they can do the job. intel never advertised being a gaming chip. [13:58] TwinReverb: trylaying crysis on an intel igp [13:58] playing* [13:58] they advertised low power consumption and delivered [13:59] TwinReverb: fair point [13:59] Besides, games aren't exactly a useful way of using a computer. [13:59] not everyone wastes their life away ... i mean, plays games [13:59] TwinReverb: ++ [13:59] eviljames: how about video encoding then? [13:59] :D :P [13:59] video encoding (at least on my end) is done via CPU so get a dual or quad core and lots of RAM [14:00] having GPU's in desktops/laptops wouldn't exist without games [14:00] ATI stream with Nvidia CUDA will change it all [14:00] Mashandar, bull, how do you think we run our display? :P [14:00] much less there's DVD playback [14:01] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!root@* expired. [14:01] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:01] we still have a thing called a CPU [14:01] and we still have other reasons to have one other than gaming [14:01] such as? [14:02] benchmarking lol [14:02] people ate chicken before we were technologically advanced, just because we steroid them up don't mean we didn't eat them before they were "super-chicken" [14:02] ttyX: LOL [14:02] dvd playback [14:02] the reason for a GPU, graphics, exists [14:02] now the reason for such fierce innovation in GPU land, yes, that's games mainly [14:02] TwinReverb: I honestly don't see them bringing out GPU's just for dvd playback [14:02] without games our "chicken" wouldn't be steroided-up but it would still exist [14:03] then there is also high definition [14:03] TwinReverb: would you say that if Linux was also a gaming platform like windoze [14:03] they'd need a GPU eventually [14:03] ttyX, no [14:03] TwinReverb: That's such a horrible waste of technology/resources though. [14:03] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [14:03] that explains it end of discussion [14:03] TwinReverb: hmm, fair point. but there's no arguing that the GPU's wouldn't be in the state they are today without gaming [14:03] linux may become a more viable gaming platform but as of right now, no, the market goes to micro$oft unfortunately [14:03] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.83.187) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:04] much less gaming consoles are more competition than games on Linux on a PC would be [14:04] er, market share [14:04] I play my fair share of games on linux [14:04] sadly, money drives the market [14:04] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.72.228) joined ##slackware. [14:04] i played UT2K3 on Linux on my dual tualatin with an nvidia geforce, i know gaming on Linux exists [14:04] gotta give microsoft credit for xbox 360 [14:04] I've got about ...10 commercial linux games in total? [14:05] i don't got to give anyone anything :P [14:05] ttyX: absolutely. the only decent console out atm imo [14:05] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.51.60) joined ##slackware. [14:05] sony sux0rz [14:05] :p [14:05] i like my sony vaio laptop and cybershot camera though, they work well together even on Linux [14:06] I also heard that sony makes it hard for developers so that it takes longer for them to take full advantage of the platform, to extend the console lifetime [14:06] there's a long list of companies I hate [14:06] sony isone of them :p [14:06] hate is time wasted [14:06] TwinReverb: not if you enjoy it, lol [14:06] i don't waste time hating microsoft, i just moved on to Linux [14:06] no sense wasting time hating microsoft when there's Linux to play with [14:07] I don't buy sony so I don't waste time [14:07] it's sort of like my life now with my wife. i love her, and when i'm with her, any hatred for former girlfriends disappears [14:07] i still remember, but now i no longer care because i have the good stuff :D [14:07] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.17) joined ##slackware. [14:07] TwinReverb: why hate them, it's their loss :P [14:08] anyone care to comment on LUKS performance on a netbook with an intel atom processor? [14:08] Nick change: gar0t0 -> fellinha [14:08] (assuming one does not encode two dvds to an encrypted partition in parallel lol) [14:08] so...what linux games do you guys play (if any) [14:08] *? [14:09] rm(1) [14:09] chromium [14:10] lol [14:10] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) left irc: "leaving" [14:10] Mashandar, i am a musician, no time for games any more, sorry [14:10] fortune(6) too, especially with -o [14:10] i just jammed along to The Division Bell, that's my games [14:10] TwinReverb: fair enough [14:10] I have a NES and an SNES for games. They haven't made games worth buying since then. [14:10] you're a grunt, the music part's a hobby [14:10] i woke up one morning and realized i was 30 and was not a rock star [14:10] true, i fix jets [14:11] eviljames: hehe, I know how you feel :P [14:11] Nick change: fellinha -> gar0t0 [14:11] they don't make 'em like SNES games anymore [14:11] Mashandar: Someone was mentioning crysis earlier, as though another 3rd person shooter was worth playing [14:11] Mashandar: and wasn't just a rehash of the same boring shit from 10 years ago... [14:12] eviljames: crysis reminded me of far cry from looking at the trailers [14:12] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:12] komesti (n=komesti@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] eviljames: anyway, I don't tend to buy the latest shooters, they are the biggest resource hogs in existance [14:12] Wolfenstein 4 life. [14:13] ioquake3! [14:13] hehe [14:13] Modern games are all just rehashes of wolf3d [14:13] cant strafe jump in wolf3d [14:13] eviljames: dunno, some (but not all) modern shooters have good storylines [14:13] I really enjoyed the story in halo [14:14] I never bothered with halo. [14:14] In fact, I've only played with an xbox maybe 3 times. [14:14] I do own a wii though :P [14:15] heh [14:15] eviljames: have you played world of goo? [14:15] yay lightning [14:15] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:15] ok so is a netbook worth it if you get one of the 7" variety with only SSD hard drives? (i.e. CF or SD HC cards) [14:16] "Worth it" in what way? For what it can do, perhaps it is. To push it beyond what it can do, certainly not. :) [14:16] i'm thinking if i get one with that small a "hard drive" (SD HC card) i'll end up spending more than on a "real" hard drive in SD HC cards [14:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [14:17] i was going to use it simply as a mobile "pad", like a "shadow" copy of my data [14:17] SSD's are not really much if any better on battery life. [14:17] Mashandar: no but it looks really coool. [14:17] Oh maybe you'd just prefer a good ESATA/USB drive. [14:17] i can be cool with scaling images down and using OGG rather than FLAC for my music collection on this machine, but still.... [14:18] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Connection timed out [14:18] ESATA/USB drives are not much more (if ANY more) than internal hard drives. [14:20] it's not power consumption, it's having enough space to not feel "strangled" [14:20] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:21] i mean maybe i could just unplug the SD card and plug a new one in to swap OS, that might be fun [14:21] modern marvels [14:21] otherwise, the storage SD HC would be the point of resistance: how much space versus cost [14:22] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] could always get a 3 pack of 4GB USB sticks for the 3 USB ports but that would be (quite frankly) retarded [14:23] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:23] loxx (n=loxx@unaffiliated/loxx) joined ##slackware. [14:24] sitting there with 3 things jutting out of a small laptop [14:24] I just got a credit for a 1 hour outage from my ISP...it rains, modem desyncs. [14:24] ... [14:24] told you [14:24] they're not crediting shit anymore [14:24] they gave me a credit [14:25] Here I thought you meant they were blaming you [14:25] oh they blame me often [14:26] Until I login to my modem and start telling them what it's diagnostics say about signal [14:26] they stfu then [14:26] 1 hour credit aint credit [14:26] oh, how much [14:26] it's a credit [14:26] 3 bucks [14:27] should be rounded up to 1 day :) [14:27] that is 1 day [14:27] she did round it [14:27] so...who here hates apple? [14:28] no me [14:28] I'm not talking about the food [14:28] Mashandar, too much hate, not enough love :P [14:28] i dont hate apple, just not my choice [14:28] thats' waht they did to me [14:28] TwinReverb: heh [14:29] a little rain and their equipment screws up. silly. [14:29] TwinReverb: apple gets plenty of love already [14:29] i hate hate, love love. :) [14:29] :p [14:29] "customers who bought this 4gb netbook also bought this 32gb sd hc card..." lol [14:29] TwinReverb: thats love :) [14:30] eee pc $200 SD HC card big enough for all your @#$, $100 [14:31] hmm, it's 4:30...I should probably got to bed soon [14:31] $100? [14:31] I got a 16GB one for less [14:31] A class 6 one at that [14:31] 32GB sdhc are about $100 [14:32] it was mainly a joke [14:32] Wait! You got a smaller card for less money?! How!! [14:32] 16GB sdhc are about $30 [14:32] I can't use 32 o.O [14:32] As they aren't micro yet [14:32] What is wrong with capitalism today! [14:34] man they NEED to specify on the eee pc site what size SD HC card they support up to [14:34] i don't want to pull the trigger only to get burned [14:34] Isn't that basically up to the kernel? [14:35] the reader too [14:35] You sure? [14:35] anyone got an eee pc? :( [14:35] i think its up to the software [14:35] any firefly fans here? [14:35] the wii and nokia n800 initially supported sd and later with fw updates supported sdhc [14:36] I have an eeepc [14:36] but my biggest sdhc card is 16GB [14:36] tank-man, will it support higher? [14:36] Well, hc is up to firmware, but beyond 4GB it's what the filesystem and the kernel, as far as I know. [14:36] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] SD HC by definition is 4GB and higher, non-HC was limited to 4GB [14:36] i'm asking about the hardware. the kernel will catch up. [14:37] look at the comments on the 32GB sdhc cards on like newegg, probably someone will have a comment on the eeepc [14:38] TwinReverb: there's spec-violating 4GB cards which are not SDHC, just plain SD though :p [14:38] *there are [14:38] The hc spec supports up to 32GB. [14:38] steppenwolfii (n=greymaus@86-43-177-106-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:39] So only if Asus decided to use a non-standard implementation, should you encounter any compatibility issues. [14:39] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] s/decided/are pressured by MS/ [14:42] i just see the 32gb price point and i'm like "ouch" [14:42] I guess I'd just get 2x16GB :) [14:42] that makes my asus $300 and at that point i might as well buy a larger one with a "real" hard drive [14:42] no, there's only one reader that i am aware [14:42] "Real" isn't necessarily better, depending on your use case. [14:43] Yeah, but I'd just swap. [14:43] Can't imagine when I'd ever have a 16GB+ file. [14:43] Mashandar (n=ben@121.219.252.169) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:43] that's not the point, the point is that this is your hard drive [14:44] that 16gb is OS + storage [14:44] My systemtime keeps getting out of whack, whats the command to sync with ntp, I think its ntpdate someserver, but cant remember some server [14:44] Huh? THere's no internal SSD? [14:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.39) left irc: [14:45] loxx (n=loxx@unaffiliated/loxx) left ##slackware. [14:45] SuN, i heard of some that have an internal SSD but then you've got one 4gb and one 16gb and the price point is $230 versus a "real" hard drive for $250 [14:45] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) joined ##slackware. [14:45] berke, try pool.ntp.org [14:46] eee is not meant for storage [14:46] er $220 for SD, $260 for HD [14:46] yes but for what i need it's probably going to end up as a requirement [14:46] I went for 10" with hdd [14:46] the difference in price is so low that it don't matter any more [14:47] well this is wierd, my gkrellm has the right date and time, but the timeclock in xfce toolbar has the correct hourtime, but not the correct date, which is wierd [14:47] Well, flash is more expensive, of course, but I'd take flash because I can smack it around as much as I want and it's quieter. [14:47] and faster [14:47] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:47] But... depending on your use case... :) [14:48] my use case is for email, contact info, must be encrypted, and must have space for my music, i.e. as a mobile platform for being a music team leader [14:48] i am wondering if i can trust write cycles of SD HC for this (not sure), and honestly it's easier to just rsync if you have the storage space [14:49] So... let's say 20MB for e-mail... now what the hell does "being a music team leader" mean for storage? ;) [14:49] /home has 100GB used [14:49] all my audio is in FLAC [14:49] Let [14:49] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:49] MEH [14:49] i'd have to reencode it all to OGG [14:49] Let's see... [14:49] SiegeX_iPh (n=SiegeX@32.156.1.197) joined ##slackware. [14:49] 32GB... - 100GB = .... -68GB [14:50] Nope, won't work! [14:50] let's see, slackware OS 5GB max, all FLAC as OGG 15GB [14:51] and by the time i get a 32GB SD HC with the $200 laptop it becomes $300 but the next step up with a "real" hard drive is $260 [14:51] and that also eliminates the "need" to re-encode my entire FLAC collection as OGG to make it work, meaning sync to my "main" laptop is rsync [14:52] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:52] meaning i might even be able to sell my external hard drive [14:53] (it's not usb powered, it's external "wall wart" powered) [14:53] sounds like you should go for the harddrive version [14:54] those eee pc's with the hard drives, are those the same standard laptop size, or smaller? [14:54] i thought i once heard something about 2.5" [14:54] normal 2.5" [14:54] sata [14:55] hmm ... i could sell the new hard drive out of it and get one identical to the one in my "main" laptop. instant RAID0 via rsync lol (j/k) [14:57] 1 [14:58] yeah RAID level fail [14:58] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl28-56.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [14:58] hey if i did RAID then over ethernet as RAID 1 would software RAID know which laptop i had taken with me to, say, work? [14:59] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:59] cd [14:59] yes [14:59] it knows by the disks UUID [14:59] er, that didn't do what I wanted.. [14:59] disk's [14:59] i wonder if it's easy to nigerian scam a fedora/redhat/ubuntu+all tha tother crap user [15:00] well, the RAID element's UUID I guess is more accurate [15:00] SiegeX_iPh (n=SiegeX@32.156.1.197) left irc: Client Quit [15:00] oda (n=oda@labmap.ime.usp.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:04] i'm wondering if RAID over secure shell over ethernet when both disks are on separate computers and both have a sda1 = / sda2 = LUKS + LVM2 swap + /home [15:04] axius (n=axius@92.82.77.200) joined ##slackware. [15:05] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] which is why rsync may be easier [15:05] LOL [15:05] personally, I'd never RAID over the network [15:05] jeev, where the hell did that come from? [15:06] nvision (n=nvision@g229077243.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:06] unless you had the proper gear [15:06] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:06] what [15:06] like a fabric [15:06] because they're dumb for using it [15:06] might as well be dumb enough to get ripped off! [15:06] how many of you are at work right now [15:07] anyone know the correct conditional statement for inside an apache config? [15:07] i guess i am.. at my own office [15:07] jeev: People aren't dumb for using those distributions. They might not have the time or the need to learn other distributions. [15:07] :< [15:07] i'm feeling especially unproductive today here at work [15:07] I guess technically I'm working. I'm at home teaching myself about php and mysql [15:08] i wish i could learn php/mysql [15:08] i know minor mysql [15:08] I have some work next week [15:08] i have to teach myself that stuff eventually as well [15:08] if youre not on vacation, whatever you are doing is work [15:08] what if you're unemployed? [15:08] unemployed on vacation? [15:08] oh, dunno [15:08] I'm unemployed in the sense of a full time go to a place job but I work for myself. [15:09] at least for now ;) [15:09] HoldMyPocket: i'm at work >.> [15:09] and what do you guys do? [15:09] necos, so it's not dangerous driving conditions in koreatown ? [15:10] HoldMyPocket, index people's information for CIA [15:10] jeev: there's a slight chance of drive-by and kung-fu fighting [15:10] just keep your eyes on the road [15:10] HoldMyPocket: I support super villain super computers in supersized data centers. [15:11] not really. [15:11] oh, i was very jealous for a moment there [15:11] lol [15:11] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.17) left irc: "leaving" [15:11] heh [15:11] one of my colo's, im driectly next to akamai :' [15:11] jeev, but it's probably best to treat others like you want to be treated [15:12] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:12] TwinReverb, tell that to george dubbya [15:12] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [15:12] wait wait, tell that to sean hannity. [15:12] you do it for me :P [15:12] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:12] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:12] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:12] obama bowed to saudi guy and americans are talking shit [15:12] i can't believe how stupid right wing wackos are [15:12] you're here, you're easier to talk to :P [15:12] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [15:12] it's called "customary" [15:12] TwinReverb, tell me. what was wrong about obama bowing? [15:12] antiwire, not to republicans [15:12] i don't know the story [15:12] it's an insult to republicans [15:13] TwinReverb, he bowed to the king of saudi or something [15:13] so what [15:13] and rush limbaugh and sean hannity were all over him [15:13] for doing it [15:13] i bow to south koreans even though i don't have to, because i want to show them respect [15:13] he's a nice guy being nice [15:13] if you want respect, you must show respect [15:13] but then again, in our culture, it means they own you [15:13] in theirs it's simply respect [15:13] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [15:14] I BOW TO NO MAN! [15:14] you know what? anything that pisses rush limbaugh off, can't be an entirely bad thing [15:14] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] Well I've managed to setup apache with php and setup a little test database and now I can even make an index.php that echoes the number of rows in my DB table! [15:14] moving right along! [15:15] TwinReverb, how about your right wing wacko friends [15:15] Urchlay, i'd do anything for his blood pressure to kill him [15:15] Now I'm trying to figure out how to actually echo actual records. [15:15] that seems harder [15:15] jeev, i don't know of any right wing wacko friends, i'm libertarian and value liberty and truth above all [15:15] most my friends are free thinkers like me and most value liberty above all else [15:16] granted, try to get libertarians together for meetings and see how far that goes 8-) [15:17] One of the guests suggesting that it was even somebody like the king of Saudi Arabia after Obama's bow, because Obama is eager to paralyze our ability to defend ourselves, which is what our enemies want. [15:17] apparently to rush limbaugh, bowing is a sign of weakness [15:17] jeev, to some it is, but remember, this is perception [15:17] to them it may be perceived as respect, it may not [15:17] to us it may be perceived as weakness, it may not [15:18] perception is different because it's relative to the person making the judgment [15:18] stfu and eat kimchi [15:18] Action: TwinReverb jabs a half pint of kimchi in jeev's mouth [15:18] eat! [15:18] 8-D [15:18] Which one aes-256 or serpent? [15:18] kimchi, pff [15:19] TwinReverb, youy're a republican. it said so on your site [15:19] asarch: serpent! [15:19] i wish obama goes back and does it again [15:19] asarch, anything over aes 128 is dumb imho [15:19] so we could laugh at the racist americans [15:19] Thank you very much! [15:19] :-) [15:19] aes is endorsed by the NSA!!! /me dons the tinfoil hat [15:19] whats the correct syntax for a conditional in an apache config? [15:19] Action: TwinReverb dons tin foil hat <8-D [15:19] asarch: Actually, I use twofish [15:20] Oh [15:20] jeev, i'll update that tomorrow, must've missed that [15:20] asarch: serpent is a fine choice too [15:20] Action: TwinReverb uses seuscrypt: onefish twofish redfish bluefish [15:20] antiwire, someone wrote on a forum.. after they found thermite at WTC.. he said "oh, my tinfoil hat just turned to gold -going to pawn shop" [15:20] hahahahahah [15:20] lol [15:20] if I have webspace and bandwidth that I am not using and would like to mirror slackware, who would I talk to about that? [15:21] berke, how fast? [15:21] good question not sure [15:21] berke, you don't really have to. however, to be listed on www.slackware.org/getslack talk to patrick (should be an email link somewhere on that site) [15:21] all I know is that I have unlimited [15:21] here we go...queue jees "omg i had 6gbps [15:21] what company ? [15:21] hostmonster [15:22] i dont think they'd accept that [15:22] "6gbps in some country and i was piping pr0n0 all over YEAH YEAH" right jeev? [15:22] How can I mount a filesystem so every can read/write on it? [15:22] Actually only root can do that? [15:22] antiwire, pr0n rules [15:22] why dont you think they would accept that? [15:22] s/that?/that/ [15:22] berke: info@slackware.com [15:23] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [15:23] SiegeX_iPh (n=SiegeX@32.156.1.197) joined ##slackware. [15:24] i du nno, you're not the upstream provider and stuff [15:24] who knows.. [15:24] berke: but dont bother.. your hosters T&Cs will forbid it i guarantee [15:25] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:26] SiegeX_iPh (n=SiegeX@32.156.1.197) left irc: Client Quit [15:28] berke: it would depend on your 24/7 bandwidth and your mirror's uptime, not on the fact that you have unlimited data transfer [15:29] hey aren't intel atoms 32bit? [15:29] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.220) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Action: Camarade_Tux thinks so* [15:29] Atom is 32bit with HyperThreading yes [15:29] dangit they need dual via eden for laptops [15:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [15:30] hey who was saying SD HC would be faster than a hard drive (sata 5400rpm)? [15:30] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] TwinReverb: the Via Nano is 64bit (it's in some more expensive netbooks, kike the Samsung NC20) [15:31] me and expensive don't mix [15:31] 8-D [15:34] TwinReverb: There are 64bit atoms iirc ... Z series [15:34] k [15:34] and is SD HC truly faster than 5400 rpm sata? [15:34] i ask because on my machine with first generation sata, the hard drive (5400rpm WD scorpio) outperformed every other media device i had [15:35] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) joined ##slackware. [15:35] bah, I'm wrong about z series, it's not x86-64... but the Atom 230 and Atom 330 are. [15:35] I'm awfully happy w/ my raptors [15:35] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [15:35] not netbook material though [15:37] i think it depends on the action.. im a bit drunk.. cant remember which is which otomh [15:37] I read an article about netbooks eysterday in an industry shill magazine.. it criticized netbooks because real email clients such as outlook and lotus recommend multiple cores and netbooks are single core [15:37] Small jaw drop moment for me. [15:37] There is a dual core Atom out.. [15:37] sequential reads, random access is diff on eachc media [15:37] I've never seen Outlook recommend multiple cores [15:37] pi31415, yeah that's absolutely retarded [15:37] I need multiple cores to.. read email? [15:38] when you NEED dual core to use your email client, your email client is @#$ bloated [15:38] i remember using microsoft word 6 on a 386. even that large a word processor ran fine [15:38] that's hilarious [15:38] dual cores for outlook? [15:39] ... [15:39] It pretty much requires them. [15:39] outlook is a royal piece of krap [15:39] Please show me where Outlook requires/recommends dual core [15:39] http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102127151033.aspx <-- not there. [15:39] modular is the way to go for netbooks because you don't have to have a million features to make it work [15:39] straterra: Please show me where hyperbole gets interpreted as fact :P [15:39] Maybe if you have some leet email signature that renders the globe in 3D... [15:39] unless you have 10 years worth of mail in an imap structure [15:40] antiwire, lmfao [15:40] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:40] June 2009 CIO magazine page 18, [15:40] anyone holding 10 years of email in one common inbox needs to be shot [15:40] that's WHY you archive [15:40] OH! Some USER is recommending it..not Microsoft [15:40] "Gottheil notes that more robust e-mail products, such as Outlook or Notes, run best on a dual-core processor." [15:40] Outlook a robust email client? [15:40] "run best on" [15:40] ^^ [15:41] Ezra Gottheil, an analyst with Technology Business Research, heh [15:41] And..that's a very true statement [15:41] everything runs best on bigger better hardware (almost) [15:41] someone mentions dual cores and Outlook and the whole channel wakes the hell up ;) [15:41] Ezra Gottheil also recommended urmom! [15:41] reminds me of the amd ad : dual-core lets you run outlook and msn messenger at the same time >< [15:41] BP{k}: I, too, recommend urmom. [15:41] eviljames: yeah but she wasn't too impressed with you ;-) [15:41] buudumpCHA [15:41] lol [15:42] BP{k}: Nor should she have been. It took a LOT of whiskey to make her tolerable... [15:42] i ran kontact + firefox + xchat + audacious + skype + pidgin on a single core pentium-M for a while and found that upgrading to a dual core only made me wait less, but the wait time was still negligible [15:42] hahaha [15:42] haha [15:42] eviljames: well played :D [15:42] is urmom dual core? >.< [15:42] I find disk IO to be a bigger issue [15:42] good grief this channel begins to resemble efnet [15:43] SynFlag (n=SynFlag@unaffiliated/synflag) joined ##slackware. [15:43] pi31415: doesn't take much to set it off [15:43] Action: TwinReverb is now known as AckFlag [15:43] that's not a compliment, isn't it? [15:43] lol [15:43] Action: TwinReverb is now known as prowire [15:45] damn you energy drinks! it's because of you i have to explain to my superiors why sleep is a requirement [15:45] Action: TwinReverb hates 12 hour shifts [15:45] Energy Drinks = heart attacks in a can. [15:45] Those things are so very, very very bad for you. [15:46] eviljames: are they worse than coffee? [15:46] or espresso [15:46] totally [15:46] pi31415: 110% worse. maybe 10000% worse [15:47] the sugar levels are insane [15:47] their concept must be pack everything legal you can that gives you energy into a can then try to add enough flavor so people can drink it without vomiting it [15:47] uh, the sugars are the least of the concerns. [15:47] How about the 2000mg of Taurine in those drinks? [15:47] (Taurine being a cat tranquilizer...) [15:47] yeah [15:47] a tranquilizer in an energy drink? [15:47] Desen (n=Desen@86.120.94.223) joined ##slackware. [15:47] if tomorrow they discovered that gasoline keeps you awake they'd put it in a can [15:48] and find a way to get people to drink it [15:48] "work 10 jobs" [15:48] kids, what Slackware version would you reccomand using on a 266 MHz desktop with 96 RAM and 3.2 GB HDD ? [15:48] "earn 10x the money" [15:48] they dont have to make it taste good, they can just say its an 'acquired taste' [15:48] Desen, 12.2 just watch what you install [15:48] Desen: I think you could get away with a stripped-down 12.2, xorg w/ xfce. [15:48] the advertisement of one energy drink says "it gives you wings" :) it doesn't lie [15:48] wings to heaven [15:49] LMFAO [15:49] Desen: 12.2 without X. works fine on a PII here [15:49] Lord_Khelben: wings to heaven.. but when you get there you find out that in reality your heart exploded inside your chest cavity. [15:49] maybe it would be ok with xfce or one of the other light WMs [15:49] i shall be using it for browsing the WEB and viewing pdf and doc documents [15:49] red bull ... it gives you fits [15:49] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:49] nooper: WindowMaker :P [15:49] i'd use windows 98 [15:49] That was my original wm. loved it. [15:50] are they at least tasty ? [15:50] nooper, eviljames, twinreverb: thanx [15:50] win98 is suicide by internet [15:50] Desen: np. [15:51] nooper, eviljames, twinreverb: will i face issues in connectiong the Slackware desktop to the internet trough an Ubuntu server via LAN ? [15:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:51] PowerThirst is like crystal meth in a can! PowerThirst IS crystal meth! [15:51] through a ubuntu server? no, what do you mean? [15:51] Urchlay, HAHA :D [15:51] Slackwarer (n=root@41.252.4.55) joined ##slackware. [15:52] almost anything ought to be able to use internet through a properly configured router or whatever it is you're using ubuntu for [15:52] searched my name on noobfarm and it's no where to be found. yay. [15:52] i've evaded detection [15:52] (until 2 seconds ago) [15:52] anyone knows where I can find proper driver for ATI Radeon X1300 / slackware? [15:52] I'm done with google !!! [15:52] Slackwarer: ATI's website? [15:52] s/ATI/AMD [15:52] lol [15:53] oh today's sunday school lesson: in heaven there is no linux 8-( [15:53] anyone know?? on the apache config problem i have.. how to use environment variables [15:53] TwinVerb: neither does Linux exist at a subatomic level [15:53] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [15:53] straterra: do you mean this one ati.amd.com/support/driver.html [15:54] twinreverb: i`m using Ubuntu on my main PC, which connects trough PPPOE to the internet. aditionalyl, i have estabilshed a LAN connection (only trough wires, nothing software atm) with the PC where i intend to run Slackware. My question is: will i face difficulties in LAN-ing these two computers and further sharing the internet connection from Ubuntu to Slackware ? I know what steps i have to make in Ubuntu, but i know nothing about Slackware [15:54] Desen, if you face difficulties it will be due to the user or ubuntu, not slackware 8-D [15:55] Slackware will just work if your router is setup correctly [15:55] twinreverb, that's what i wanted to hear, thanx [15:55] Desen: if you know the steps for ubuntu, then in slackware just set up the ubuntu box as your default gateway [15:55] alienBOB: alive ? and setup dns servers [15:55] yep, i can handle there [15:55] thanx, kids [15:55] Slackware shall it be [15:56] alienBOB: what does the router has to do with ATI website? [15:56] gar0t0: yes Iwas not on that plane [15:56] Desen (n=Desen@86.120.94.223) left ##slackware ("FREAKS!"). [15:56] Slackwarer: I was not talking to you at all [15:56] And choose a better nick [15:57] oic [15:57] alienBOB: lol [15:57] and don't chat as root [15:57] and clean your room! [15:57] ...and don't talk with your mouth full! [15:57] alienBOB: much working ? [15:57] I thought Stx had set a ban on root@* earlier today? [15:57] and eat all your vegetables! [15:57] alienBOB: the bot removed earlier. [15:57] alienBOB: slackboy disabled it [15:57] alienBOB: or "working a lot?" [15:57] oops [15:58] per what Desen said, how come no one comes on here saying what *I* want to hear? :( [15:58] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.87) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:58] i dunno why people care if someone is running as root.. [15:58] er 8( [15:58] whatever [15:58] Slackwarer (n=root@41.252.4.55) left ##slackware. [15:58] jeev this is an educational channel [15:58] jeev, if you see someone about to jump off a bridge do you warn them or ignore tham? [15:58] jeev: it's really just a matter of bad form, and a security hazard sometimes. [15:58] TwinReverb: encourage! [15:58] Working a lot yes [15:58] bad form? [15:58] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] alienBOB: Have you been to noobfarm.org? I'd say educational is occasionally debateable :P [15:58] bad form. [15:58] how so? [15:58] You'll see the fruits of my work real soon [15:59] i dunno, i dont feel like addding a different user and ircing off that.. i dunno, that's just me [15:59] I'm not going to take your bait pi31415 [15:59] i'm lazy and stupid so oh well [15:59] eviljames: even noobfarm serves an educational purpose [15:59] jeev: don't you have a non-root account anyway ? [15:59] straterra, i would've thought you'd do /nick NakedChick && /say Come over to my room stereotypical type joke but oh well [15:59] no way. only on actual important servers, not my office system [16:00] I don't see a ban on Administrator@ [16:00] jeev, running everything as root all of the time is not smart either [16:00] pi31415, there probably should be one then [16:00] TwinReverb, if you could afford to run anything as root then you could afford to get hacked. [16:00] pi31415: and there isn't a ban on root anymore either... [16:00] also, some distributions are root-only, such as Puppy Linux [16:01] huh? [16:01] you mean puppy linux doesn't come with the useradd command? [16:01] Action: Urchlay doubts that severely [16:01] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Urchlay: you can add users but typical usage is root only [16:01] Urchlay, puppyadd ? [16:01] heh [16:01] i should write a book [16:01] useradd kitten [16:01] pi31415: then it's not "root-only" [16:01] i'd get bored in the first few minutes though [16:02] useradd: No cats allowed! [16:02] adduser is better [16:02] adduser is completely different from one linux distro to another [16:02] adduser is different [16:02] and may not even exist on all of them [16:02] addlolz me [16:02] "you always works as root" http://www.puppylinux.org/manuals/puppy-40/english/security/root [16:03] sorry I thought we were talking about slackware seeing how we are in #slackware [16:03] pi31415: but you just said it was root only and then said you can add users. it's not root only then. [16:03] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [16:03] pi31415: well that's some of the stupider advice I've ever seen. [16:03] berke: all the internet is not a vax [16:03] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.87) joined ##slackware. [16:05] why can't we eat food without being root on our bodies, that'd be cool, eat with no permanent change [16:05] jeev: mercy! [16:06] software does have exploitable vulnerabilities... including stuff like IRC clients that will run arbitrary commands as the user running IRC, if sent a carefully crafted string [16:06] if that user is root, the exploit can do a whole lot more damage [16:06] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.87) left irc: Client Quit [16:07] You see someone park their bike at the grocery store without locking it. Do you a) ignore them, or b) physically haul them out of the store, lecture them, and break their kneecaps with a baseball bat? [16:07] Slackwarer was using pidgin and oh what's this in the 12.2 changelog? Tue May 26 16:49:34 CDT 2009 [16:07] my my [16:07] this ain't a grocery store though. This is an unofficial support forum for bike riders. [16:07] antiwire: do you save your password ? [16:08] i feel naked while doing so ? [16:08] antiwire: i mean on pidgin [16:09] also, a certain percentage of the population will (c) steal their bike and laugh all the way home. [16:09] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-129-9.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] cant wait till my girlfriends school is through [16:10] init[1]: no, but this wasn't about me [16:10] this was a discussion about root irc [16:10] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:10] I don't save passwords because pidgin doesn't encrypt saved passwords [16:11] irc splits less when you run your client as root [16:11] yes .. why do they do it this way [16:11] and the pretty mirc colors are brighter and more vivid [16:11] init[1]: ask them [16:11] antiwire: lol [16:14] init[1]: my reason is really out of paranoia. If you're home directory has proper permissions it's not an issue and if your system is physically compromised well...your pidgin passwords are the lest of your worries. [16:15] you're/your [16:15] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-163-253.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] dang I typoed everywhere. [16:16] hmm.. once i fould a account.xml file form firefrost search [16:16] damm. im scared to run file shareing sw [16:17] Does banning root make a significant impact on computer security in general? [16:17] dunno. How would you go about measuring that? [16:17] root is not banned! [16:17] pi31415: how will administer your system [16:17] it was almost a joke when that went down earlier... [16:18] read the logs and you'll see what happened [16:18] init[1]: I think he's talking about banning people from IRC channels [16:18] oops .. again i misse some episodes :P [16:19] buffer (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [16:20] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-164.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] hi [16:21] uva (n=bno@118-168-236-127.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:21] axius (n=axius@92.82.77.200) left irc: "Leaving" [16:22] hey jeev [16:22] I a JOOOO [16:23] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] where have i seen that. [16:23] lol [16:24] Why can't I see that? [16:24] Catoptromancy (i=1000@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] < antiwire> I ?Y? JOOOO [16:24] eviljames: probably your client doesn't like it [16:24] it's a heart [16:24] eviljames, canada is filtering it [16:24] that's not a heart for me [16:24] jeev: We don't have hearts here in Canada anyway.. so it makes sense. [16:25] you guys only have weirdo's! [16:25] I'll screen shot this aa [16:25] if yanni performs at the acropolis again, im going [16:26] http://tinypic.com/r/25717ww/5 [16:27] antiwire, what client ar eryou using [16:27] pidgin supports detecting the UTF, maybe that's what it is [16:27] oh pidgin heh [16:28] kvirc works too. i see it as heart [16:28] stupid mric [16:28] mirc [16:29] buffer (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left irc: "leaving" [16:29] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] some of that depends on the font you're using, too [16:30] irssi would display the heart, but the font I use doesn't have the heart character [16:30] ah [16:30] pidgin shows it fine here. [16:30] Fish (n=SPARCman@AVelizy-152-1-35-68.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:31] <3 ? [16:31] (eh, well, assuming irssi is running inside a unicode-enabled terminal, and has its unicode/uft8 setting enabled too) [16:31] Pig_Pen: a [16:31] ? [16:31] antiwire: i can see that heart [16:31] what do you think will happen to irc if everything starts to get indexed [16:31] like some channels are already [16:32] Pig_Pen: do you see it? which client? [16:32] indexed how? [16:32] you mean log bots? [16:32] start collecting info [16:32] yea antiwire [16:32] this one is logged [16:32] irssi in screen then startx launch sakura and screen -d -r [16:32] i mean if they start using it for those purposes [16:32] many people put their real name in their whois [16:32] the more fools they [16:32] Urchlay: :P [16:33] some people know that and don't care though [16:33] ls -l -h ./ [16:33] i think data mining and shit has been a privacy concern for a while but that's the next warfare on citizens [16:33] opps [16:33] well, those people probably don't care about public logs, either [16:34] social networking will lead to disasters for some [16:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:34] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [16:34] komesti (n=komesti@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] I know a person who was about to enter into a big business deal with another private party. He did a search on myspace for the private party's email address, found it and saw the person had all these crazy images depicting behavior that is not exactly compatible with solid business choices. The deal ended. [16:35] there should be laws passed to stop verizon from castrating phones [16:35] yup, i can belive it, lots of people have too much personally identifying information at stupid websites like MySpace, FaceBook, & others... [16:36] no wonder google is in bed with nsa/cia and facebook probably is too [16:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:37] when it was brought up in a face to face meeting the person turned white and was visibly nervous about it. [16:37] swerves him right [16:37] serves [16:37] what did he expect? its not called the "World Wide Web" for nothing [16:38] yep [16:38] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl28-56.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:39] much better to do business with people who can keep their bad stuff secret [16:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] at least they are discrete about it [16:39] no ones shit is secret heh [16:40] keeping it secret wasn't the issue. the issue what that this person did not have discretion. [16:40] discretion is better than posting your wierdness on the tubes like a friggin billboard on the side of the road [16:40] it was about judgment [16:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:42] pri4pus_ (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Anyone got a free donut for National Donut Day: http://lifehacker.com/5280231/score-a-free-doughnut-today [16:43] i need to try dunkin donuts coffee [16:43] to see what the hype is about [16:43] crispycreme is over rated, i think those little mom & pop doughnut shops make better [16:43] soon they'll be adding nano shit to our drinks, record our thoughts and conversations, we'll piss it out and it'll find itself to the nearest station to dump more info on us [16:43] thats life [16:43] dunkin donuts coffee ain't all that great [16:43] crispy creme is good but i think if i have one i'll die [16:43] Pig_Pen: there used to be a Krispy Kreme not far from here, but it closed up. [16:44] Urchlay, they were hyping it up [16:44] jeev: just wait until the first few car accidents caused by ad banners popping up on the driver's retinas [16:44] time for tinfoil wallpaper all over the inside of your house, they do make rf shielding house paint [16:44] lol [16:44] Urchlay, i wouldn't be surprised [16:44] Pig_Pen, i'm not saying i believe it.. but it will happen one day [16:45] s0du (n=john@host81-141-106-206.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:45] you can't accept the fact that there is crazy technology right now.. that it wont happen in the future [16:45] haven't eaten a krispy kreme donut in eons [16:45] that tech is available today, just now widely used [16:45] it's delish [16:45] /s/now/not [16:45] so why do you joke around with tinfoil hats? ;) [16:46] the only times I see krispy kreme, they're at places like quiktrip, and I just know they've been sitting there forever [16:46] i would not enjoy having to repaint the inside of my house just for some privacy [16:46] duno what quiktrip is but oh well [16:46] gas station [16:46] Pig_Pen, never heard of someone painting inside their house for that lol [16:46] lead paint? [16:46] aka convenience store [16:46] There was a Krispy Kreme out here but they tanked [16:46] yea Urchlay, got it [16:46] rf shielding paint [16:46] heh [16:47] there's a krispy kreme in downtown atlanta, but it's always full of drag queens on the prowl, so I never stop there [16:47] it has metal particles that stop rf snooping tools [16:47] i'd be surprised if they could read what you're thinking.. i think the body is smart enough not to use wireless ;) [16:47] ew at drag queens [16:48] yep i just checked, there isn't a krispy kreme within 40 miles of me [16:48] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [16:48] there are infrared devices that can focus on a closed window and pick up the sounds from inside houses now, not much you could do about that except keep a loud TV or radio going [16:48] of all the toys i have here at work and it being early in my IT career, which ones should i focus on the most? Compellent SAN, VMWare, Altiris? it's all so awesome [16:49] pig_pen: the spy movies from the 60s showed people running tap water at full blast, and whispering in each other's ears [16:49] yea [16:49] HoldMyPocket: the SAN setup and VMWARE [16:49] i just wonder how people watch 24 and dont think that's happening in their own country [16:49] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@189.186.43.245) joined ##slackware. [16:50] heh. Anyone who's *that* interested in listening to my music and the sound of me tapping on the keyboard, is welcome to waste their time... [16:50] Urchlay, i wish they could make something to smell inside the house too [16:50] data warehousing is about statistics, not context [16:50] i dont think they'd want to smell my room after i let go of a couple farts [16:50] zox (i=zox@unaffiliated/zox) left ##slackware. [16:50] pi31415, that's what you think [16:51] chemical warfare is usually most effective if you don't use it on yourself too... [16:51] Urchlay, my farts are disasterous sometimes. [16:51] beans [16:51] now that would be a way to ruin a business deal [16:51] dog farts i think are the worst [16:51] it's not even beans [16:51] farting in the shower is really bad too, it's like the fart takes on vapor form [16:51] and lingers [16:51] for 4 days i was farting out death [16:51] it was like /dev/urandom [16:52] that's fun too HoldMyPocket but the smell goes fast. i dont like that [16:52] farts have taken away my headaches before [16:52] i figure it's from the relief of the pressure but i'd like to think it was the smell [16:52] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] probably caused a stoke, now that part of your brain that had the headache is dead ;p [16:52] mk1 (i=none@xdsl-87-78-95-94.netcologne.de) joined ##slackware. [16:53] heh [16:53] it's happened quite a few times [16:53] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:53] you guys are huffing your own effluence [16:53] mk1 (i=none@xdsl-87-78-95-94.netcologne.de) left irc: Client Quit [16:54] continual farting is better than sex in my opinion [16:54] as long as it smells bad [16:54] i usually keep a window open and a fan going unless it is freezing cold or super hot outside [16:54] i used to fart in the shower and dutch oven my ex all the time [16:54] then one day she farted int he shower [16:54] and i almost threw up [16:54] I think you're doing it wrong in that case jeev [16:54] it was so gross [16:54] lol dutch oven [16:54] antiwire, i've said many times i dont care [16:54] lol [16:56] like in the Sopranos him: "you know, coming here is like taking sh!t" her: "well i prefer to look at it like child birth" him: "no, it's like taking a sh!t". [16:56] i dunno why this tv is acting 120hz, i turned that off [16:56] 120 sucks [16:56] heh [16:57] A vendor on the phone told me that customer service is #1 and sales is #2. Not appealing in the context of the IRC conversation. [16:59] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [17:00] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-164.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:00] ojg (n=ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:01] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [17:01] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) joined ##slackware. [17:01] s0du (n=john@host81-141-106-206.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] well there would be no customer service without the sales! [17:04] pri4pus_ (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [17:06] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-83-236.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "play poker" [17:09] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.38.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] quiet isn't good [17:09] i wanted u-verse but i cant deal with not being able to use my own router [17:09] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [17:10] SynFlag (n=SynFlag@unaffiliated/synflag) left irc: "." [17:12] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [17:12] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [17:14] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [17:16] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.180.74) joined ##slackware. [17:16] http://www.aidsvote.org/blogspot_files/bird_dog.jpghttp://www.aidsvote.org/blogspot_files/bird_dog.jpghttp://www.aidsvote.org/blogspot_files/bird_dog.jpghttp://www.aidsvote.org/blogspot_files/bird_dog.jpg [17:16] damn! [17:16] uh [17:17] I so hope you know that's shooped [17:17] this damn terminal or irssi, the input buffer is being unresponsive then it goes all at once like a flood [17:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:17] no way, thats a real birddog ;p [17:18] lol [17:19] it would be really funny to have a flock of say 5000 of those barking [17:19] funny for about 5 minutes [17:19] then it would be shotgun time [17:19] smithzv (n=smithzv@c-67-173-240-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:23] last year there were two crows that would come in to my back yard and tease the cats until they got annoyed and leave, then when the cats left they would eat cat food [17:23] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-83-236.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:23] that's so cute [17:24] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [17:25] did you know a community of crows is called a murder? [17:25] that's what pisses me off [17:25] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:25] why can't they have ONE freaking word for a group of something [17:25] a school of fish, a this of that [17:26] that's why english is stupid [17:26] flock of crap, herd of this [17:26] litter of crap [17:26] wtf. [17:26] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:27] a bounty of jeevs [17:27] its fun to mix them up. a gaggle of errors [17:27] lol [17:27] antiwire: oh gosh, one is enough. :P [17:27] gaggle [17:28] http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Pointless/AnimalGroups.html [17:28] I'll agree English is a pain in th eazz [17:28] anyone use dillo web browser? there are some daemons that keep running after you close the app, you have to kill them manually [17:28] oh my god [17:28] a brood of firebird619's [17:28] haha [17:28] that list just shows how stupid the language is [17:28] a drove of slackboy's [17:28] lol [17:30] a drove of antiwire's [17:30] murmuration of Meckafett's [17:30] probably "a murder of slackboys" would be more accurate? [17:30] lol [17:30] jeev it is called diversity. A language should be rich and vibrant. Otherwise conversations are a bore [17:31] hk0i (n=hk0i@64.20.189.254) left irc: "baba" [17:31] a rookery of alienBOB's [17:31] I do wonder if many other languages do the same thing with animal groups [17:31] a throng of alienBOB's [17:31] There can be only one firebird619 [17:31] :) [17:32] there are at least 618 other firebirds though? [17:32] i cheated, i made a text file executable and with links -g "$@" in it and named it firefox :D [17:32] put it in /usr/bin [17:33] a multitude of Pig_Pen's. [17:33] i am leigon [17:33] a critical mass of Pig_Pens? [17:33] alienBOB, it's also called unnecessary.. more words more problems [17:34] jeev: so go learn to speak esperanto [17:34] a turdage of turds [17:34] (good luck finding anyone else to talk to though) [17:34] jeev I prefer a rich language [17:34] Urchlay: oh noes, the amount of Pig_Pen's has reached critical mass? :P [17:34] a penis of goldfish [17:35] I also prefer intelligent talk to stupid gibberish [17:35] that touchpad on my laptop is sure sensitive, sometimes i just touch it and it clicks like the buttons [17:35] "I drink to make other people interesting." -- George Jean Nathan [17:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Operation timed out [17:36] this is interesting...but in a paint drying way http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_Tab [17:37] i bet there is an xorg.conf Option for the mouse section to disable that touchpad from doing the click thing [17:37] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [17:37] Pig_Pen, there is [17:41] gona be baby free this weekend [17:41] WOOHOOO [17:41] \0/ [17:41] Action: nix_chix0r puts on barry white [17:41] Nice! [17:41] jeev is probably thrilled to notice that the animal grouping list also demonstrates that the name of the group can change based upon movement, age, position, etc. [17:42] Hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [17:42] great. i dont have to work today, and i wont have the baby cause grandma is taking him [17:42] good times tonight whutwhut [17:42] Hi agentc0re|work: How's it going? got your skydiving done yet enough to get the cheaper rates? [17:42] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:42] he's picking the car up from the shop rear struts are fixed [17:42] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:43] hm, who was it in here compiling the game liquidwar? [17:43] nix_chix0r: cool. [17:43] stealth-: was that you? [17:43] firebird619, hows you [17:43] nix_chix0r: doing excellent, thank you. [17:43] another day of perfect weather [17:44] firebird619: Nope, weather still has been crapy. It's been raining during all the good times to go. [17:44] it actually rained here in Sunny So Cal [17:44] i got my new fan today [17:44] Urchlay: Yes, it was him. [17:44] agentc0re|work: Well that sucks. [17:44] 7160rpm [17:44] very load [17:44] loud? [17:44] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] barry white?!! you are going to have another baby listening to that! [17:45] agentc0re|work: How long is the weather forecast to be crappy for? [17:45] lol [17:45] Pig_Pen: possibly even twins. [17:45] firebird619: http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/tenday/84116?from=weekend_topnav_driving [17:45] loud yes sorry [17:46] http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/delta-pfb1212uhe-f00-120mm-insane-speed-fan.html [17:46] agentc0re|work: wow, that forecast looks horrible. :P [17:46] firebird619: tell me about it. [17:46] 1 day with no chance of showers/T-storms. [17:46] toastytoast: 250CFM? [17:46] yes [17:46] firebird619: hour by hour, only a few hours out of the day are good enough weather for me to go. Once i pass the class, it wont be as strict for when i can and cannot jump. [17:47] toastytoast: holy cow, that thing sucks some juice too. [17:47] Give it it's own PSU? [17:47] indeed [17:47] wow, 4 amps. [17:47] no i jsut plugged it into my 550 it seems to be doing fine so far [17:48] I dare you to put your finger in it. [17:48] no [17:48] I double dare ya! [17:48] agentc0re|work: was going to ask him, how the heck do you actually play it? (the docs are full of TODO instead of actual documentation) [17:48] lol [17:49] Urchlay: HAHA. TODO: How to play game. [17:49] my friends told me to throw a hot dog at it [17:49] TODO: Controls [17:49] Urchlay: you get past that duke3d level yet with that door you couldn't get open. [17:49] agentc0re|work: lol, TODO: Finish game. :P [17:50] toastytoast: First it starts with a hotdog... Next thing you know it'll be small animals and before you know it you'll be getting rid of those pesky neighbors. :P [17:50] firebird619: HAH [17:50] agentc0re|work: seriously, that's about how the docs look (other than the section on how to install the game) [17:51] firebird619: not yet. I started over on the next hardest difficulty though [17:51] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:51] cool [17:51] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-129-9.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:51] Urchlay: http://www.ufoot.org/liquidwar/v5 maybe the prior version might help to understand? [17:51] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:52] apparently the very hardest difficulty, the monsters keep respawning after you kill them, which makes it a royal pain [17:52] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] firebird619, so the cars fixed, also last night i ordered 3TB hd's one external for his bday [17:52] sweet [17:52] wtf, the liquidwar v5 docs actually have a section called "fanfic" [17:53] Catoptromancy (i=1000@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:53] my friend in the cities has over 2tb of movies and i'm just gona take those down and copy it on to mine and make a media pc [17:53] use my tv as the screen [17:53] nice [17:55] nix_chix0r: you shouldn't have to complain for a while then "There's no movie's to watch." :P [17:55] yeah i am not so sure my psu likes running the fan so much [17:55] lol i know [17:55] i dont feel so bad because my buddy has 50mbps and unlimited bandwidth [17:55] i'll let him be the pirate and i'll just reap the benifits [17:55] i started unziping nexuiz and everything suddenlly grew really slow [17:56] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.151.84) joined ##slackware. [17:56] nix_chix0r: lol, go ahead, take advantage. :P [17:57] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [17:58] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-10-37.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:58] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:00] ugh firebird619 it was 440 to replace the whole rear suspension [18:00] monstro (i=1000@189.111.16.39) joined ##slackware. [18:00] alright, FreeBSD is going down on the SPARC [18:00] nix_chix0r: ouch [18:01] antiwire: kinky [18:01] apparently I'm too stupid to get Solaris 10 working [18:02] antiwire: whats not working? I have a solaris 10 manual [18:02] what kind of sparc is it? I bet freebsd will run nicer on low-end hardware than sol10 would [18:02] the real question is, why don't you try splack? [18:02] berke: For whatever reason the SOL10 install disk doesn't detect the disks [18:02] Urchlay: isn't Splack really outdated? [18:02] yeah, probably [18:02] Urchlay: Heh i installed that on my windows box at work, that's kind of a weird game. [18:03] Urchlay: Interesting and possibly addicting but weird non the less. [18:03] eh, http://www.splack.org/ says the latest version is 12.1-rc9, based on slackware 12.1, not *that* outdated [18:04] berke: The system boots off the SOl10 DVD and I even went through the whole setup process but it bombed out at the end saying no disks formatted. It never gave me the chance to format or partition anything [18:04] you would think the installer would say something about no disks at the start of the install [18:05] yeah that's what I assumed too [18:05] but I have no Solaris experience at all so I'm not blaming the installer [18:06] solaris cant be worse than slack or freebsd [18:06] what about opensolaris instead? [18:06] antiwire: solaris or opensolaris? I'm just curious. [18:06] Solaris [18:06] OpenSolaris does not support CD/DVD booting on SPARC yet [18:06] ouch [18:06] OpenSolaris is very nice, boots to a live environment. [18:06] no on sparc it doesn't [18:06] komesti (n=komesti@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] antiwire: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.unix.solaris/2008-10/msg00572.html this might help [18:07] yarr, ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/splack/splack-12.1-iso/ [18:07] antiwire: that sucks. [18:07] makes me want to dig my old sparc boxen out of storage [18:07] FreeBSD is going down nicely so far. [18:07] lns40 (i=5a95cb22@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aac45388219a526d) joined ##slackware. [18:08] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] antiwire: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/06/01/sun_rolls_opensolaris_2009_06/comments/ "Also, seeing OpenSolaris boot under SPARC is a good indication that Solaris 11 is right around the corner, since OpenSolaris is basically the Solaris 11 release." [18:10] OpenSolaris does boot under SPARC, it does not CD/DVD boot. [18:10] Yeah, but maybe hope that it will eventually. :D Think positive. :P [18:11] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:11] there is only an automated install which requires an OpenSolaris server which 1. don't have yet and 2. don't know jack about and 3. #2 is the reason I want to try OpenSolaris in the first place [18:11] lol [18:12] comes with a chicken, but no egg? [18:12] hehe [18:12] haha [18:12] hoho [18:13] ho ho hoe [18:13] oh shit... didn't even know i was still logged in... [18:13] osol 09.06 comes with FF 3.5 b3 or b5 [18:13] hello people [18:13] hello vastina [18:14] quick question... does anyone use leave? use it all the time on BSD, but not seeing it anywhere for slack/lin [18:15] eh, what is it? [18:15] leave [18:16] lunix [18:16] lol [18:16] $ leave | When do you have to leave? [18:16] kinda goes like that [18:17] just a simple scheduler script from the older unix toolset [18:17] but /me likes it [18:17] try /quit (if that is what you want to do) [18:17] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:17] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] Nick change: okibisan -> jakeday [18:17] get bent [18:17] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:18] hm, the one from netbsd might do ya [18:18] at(1) and friends? [18:18] yeah i just might compile the BSD version [18:18] just wondering if there already was a native linux port [18:18] but no one seems to be aware of one [18:20] Fish (n=SPARCman@AVelizy-152-1-35-68.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:22] lns40 (i=5a95cb22@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-aac45388219a526d) left ##slackware. [18:23] rob0: at is more of a command scheduler running from cron, leave is more of a CLI personal reminder [18:23] vastina: I've never heard or or used leave, but there's a cli app called reminder. [18:23] s/heard or/heard of/ [18:25] http://freshmeat.net/projects/remind vastina, here get bent with this [18:25] Pig_Pen: lol [18:26] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:26] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:26] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:27] vastina: whoa. "get bent"... I haven't heard anyone say that since the beavis & butthead days. [18:27] lol [18:27] huhuhu [18:27] vastina: the netbsd one from ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/usr.bin/leave/ looks easy enough to build [18:29] doesn't work so easy for me though, I don't know c [18:29] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-63-202.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] antiwire: You don't know C? HEATHEN. [18:30] Urchlay: thanks [18:30] Is it possible to install slackware on a netbook? Would you just do it through a usb drive? [18:30] lolwut: Thats how i did it. [18:30] yeah, antiwire learned to say his ABD's as a kid :) [18:30] eviljames: beaver and butthole days? good show, but that didnt derive [18:31] vastina: A math pun? (one can only hope...) [18:31] agentc0re|work: how would I go about doing that, is it just like a boot disk but a flash drive instead? [18:31] I was just referencing a period in time. [18:31] lolwut: I think I can find a good link for you...sec. [18:31] eviljames: thanks [18:31] eviljames: we're on the same page, my comment didn't derive from any influence of the cartoon [18:32] vastina: ahh, yea, we're on the same page. I was just referencing that 'age' if you will. [18:32] lolwut: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackboot/usb/ but my links may be outdated .. :/ [18:33] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:33] lolwut: https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ [18:33] agentc0re|work: fedora links are not needed for Slackware usb boot [18:34] alienBOB: Was my sauce correct there, or is there an updated link? [18:34] alienBOB: lol [18:34] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.151.84) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:34] lolwut: or this one http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=241180 I've used either. [18:34] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [18:35] eviljames: we don't want to see any of your sauce! [18:35] antiwire: but ... but .... it's special! [18:35] alienBOB: maybe by you, but i'm just giving out multiple ways on how to do it. [18:35] another good reminder calendering tool is calcurse [18:37] jakeday (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] alienBOB: Thank you [18:40] and calcurse is on SBo. [18:40] Noobfarm is operational. [18:40] bout bloody time! [18:41] Hey BP{k}, how's your day going? [18:41] anyway you lot... have a good weekend, we'll speak next week [18:41] later vastina, take care. [18:41] what's the best way to access serial port? i remember it used to be cuaa or something [18:41] vastina (n=vastina@206.105.111.187) left ##slackware ("A math pun"). [18:42] firebird619: not too bad. :) [18:42] BP{k}: So i bought a crap load of grain today to do some beer brewing over the weekend :D. going to try and do a Hefe and a Stout. [18:42] agentc0re|work: nice :) good luck with that. [18:43] bl [18:43] bbl [18:43] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust404.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:44] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:46] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [18:47] lol http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1502 [18:47] Hey nooper [18:47] hi firebird619 [18:48] How's it going? [18:48] not bad, you? [18:48] doing excellent, thanks. [18:49] how long do you go between haircuts? [18:49] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] what's a haircut? [18:49] I like this one: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1539 and puuummmm.... crashhhh [18:49] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [18:49] it's been oh about...a year since my last "cut off the split ends" hair cut [18:49] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:50] get a haircut hippy [18:50] nooper: I cut my hair about once a month. I use the hair clipper to cut the whole business to 1/2 an inch. [18:50] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] nice [18:51] i like having short hair, but i'm tired of going to get it cut every 2 months [18:51] i was working in a machine shop and they guy with long hair got his hair caught in a drill press and ripped out a big chunk of his scalp when it got caught [18:51] and the hair dressers get in my personal bubble [18:51] lol [18:51] ouch [18:51] double ouch [18:52] the next week he came back to work with a hair cut [18:52] Pig_Pen: that's what hair ties are for [18:52] I tie it all up like a ninja when i work with power tools [18:52] ninjawire? :P [18:52] keeYA [18:53] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.180.74) joined ##slackware. [18:53] like this? http://image28.webshots.com/29/2/22/42/240622242eMCVDY_ph.jpg [18:53] hey where'd you get that picture!!! [18:53] haha [18:53] j/k [18:54] antiwire: you've been found. :P [18:54] mine's way longer than that [18:54] zounds (n=zounds@81-234-214-184-no68.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:54] zounds (n=zounds@81-234-214-184-no68.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:56] I'm jealous. [18:56] I had to get a haircut & a real job :/ [18:56] lol [18:57] for work I just tie it back all proper [18:59] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [19:00] the worst time frame though is 6mo-1.5year [19:00] there's nothing you can do about it short of wearing a hat [19:02] dang http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/graphics/xvr100/index.xml [19:02] i want. [19:02] the price is ludicrous though [19:02] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Excess Flood [19:03] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [19:03] Lurq (i=root@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Excess Flood [19:04] Lurq (i=root@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Lurq (i=root@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Excess Flood [19:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.220) left irc: [19:07] antiwire: Why do you want that? For your v120? [19:07] Lurq (i=root@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [19:07] yeah [19:08] I already tried just a normal PC nvidia Geforce 400MX PCI and it doesn't work [19:08] The price is obscene for what it is. Just get a radeon 9200 for $20 [19:08] oh, lame :P [19:08] apparently it has ot be a sun card [19:08] which means selling a kidney [19:09] Whatever, you've got 2 [19:09] lol [19:09] bbl [19:10] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [19:10] Lurq (i=root@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Excess Flood [19:10] Lurq (i=root@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [19:12] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] how do you get to the Nvidia control panel again? something like nvidia-config or set up? [19:16] it should put an entry in your menu on your desktop [19:16] hey is http://www.ebay.com looking strange for anyone else? [19:16] i use fluxbox [19:16] it was nvidia-settings though, thanks! [19:16] antiwire: looks fine here. [19:17] darn [19:17] must be something to do with the server I'm routed to [19:17] what's it look like for you? [19:17] nvidia-settings [19:17] oh ok [19:17] firebird619: like they screwed up a style sheet [19:18] ah there it goes [19:18] all better.. it was them [19:18] haha [19:20] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [19:21] pingno (n=pingno@24-158-217-87.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [19:21] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! 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[19:35] love is sweet [19:35] love is swell [19:35] once you're married love is hell [19:36] haha [19:36] moral of the story, don't get married? :P [19:36] yeah [19:36] or make sure you are willing to live with her after the romance and sex gets boring [19:37] Is this your own experience? [19:37] yeah [19:37] Does she know about irc? :P [19:38] yeah, she thinks it is useless chatter [19:38] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:39] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:39] It's not useless, heck, sometimes it can be insightful, and of course, other times entertaining. [19:39] yes! there are some gems of insight and humor to be found in here [19:40] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: "curiosity kill the kat" [19:40] certainly not #ubuntu though. [19:40] lol, no doubt about that [19:41] even if there was there would be too much noise to the "signal to noise" ratio [19:41] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:41] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [19:45] haha, yeah, there sure would be. [19:45] one day i will actually use that fan but today i honestly prolly won't use it for a while i mainly got it because i jsut wanted it [19:45] maybe one day when i actually set up a server i'll put that fan in it [19:47] ONE DAY IO WILL USE THAT FAN TO CONQUER THE WORLD! [19:47] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:48] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [19:49] hd (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:51] to use straigh slack, or a derivative...that is the quesiton [19:51] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [19:51] staight, there's nothing like it. :P [19:51] err. straight. [19:51] icarus: use whataever you want [19:51] whatever^ [19:51] Hey straterra [19:51] would you prefer to drink good whiskey? or some skanky bathtub gin? [19:51] Hi.. [19:52] Depends.. [19:52] party = skanky gin [19:52] alone, sipping = whiskey [19:52] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:52] suit yourself, dont call me when you go blind [19:52] good whisky never lets you lose youself [19:53] cherokee fiddle [19:53] beer ftw [19:53] FreeBSD freebsd-sparc.lan 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Sat May 2 08:25:23 UTC 2009 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC sparc64 [19:53] nice. [19:53] it worked [19:54] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@autodiscover.cusonet.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:54] hd (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:55] HellDragon_ (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:56] i like freebsd but freebsd does not like my wifi hardware [19:56] wow. ports is rad [19:57] antiwire: your mouse worked out of the box? What type of mouse? [19:57] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Connection timed out [19:57] this is a Sun box dood [19:57] no mouse, vga or keyboard [19:57] whoops, haha. [19:57] I forgot that. :P [19:58] the v120 is a 1u [19:58] I could add all that stuff though [19:58] HellDragon_ (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:00] cmk_zzz (n=cmk@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [20:06] dont go hog wild, just add stuff as you need it [20:07] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:09] thanks mom [20:10] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:13] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:14] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [20:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:36] well, slackers. your silence bores me. [20:36] it's a good thing there's this dang'ol'innet to entertain me. [20:38] firebird619, New board! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151085 See my post there. [20:38] ok [20:41] hey, what does amd have to compete with the 8core, hyperthreaded i7s that are due later this year? [20:41] are they doing anything like that, or focusing more on the gpu stuff? [20:42] AMD Six-core chips should be here in less than two months. [20:43] 12-cores will come next year. [20:43] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-168-176-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:44] neat. [20:45] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:45] hashi (n=hashi@d122-104-82-12.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:47] ey folks [20:48] slackware is uber [20:48] i have been using netbsd for years [20:48] except having audio support issue with the netbsd [20:48] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:49] i am stoked with slack so far [20:49] yup, slack is as good as it gets in the *nix dept. [20:49] hashi: nice. I like freebsd. sound works well for me in freebsd. but, I'm a Slacker always. [20:49] nice [20:50] hey hitest, how's it going? [20:50] well i'm doing fun stuff like hoping to install LMMS [20:50] for trance production [20:51] have two audio interfaces [20:51] for digital mixing [20:51] hi firebird619: good:) how's it going with you? I'm downloading 64 bit freebsd atm. goon give it a whirl tomorrow. [20:51] linux multimedia studio that is [20:51] gonna [20:51] hitest: doing excellent, thanks. [20:51] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] yw:) [20:52] avidemux, devede, mplayer, are not included with slack but are worth building hashi [20:52] agreed [20:52] love my mplayer from slackbuilds.org [20:52] vobcopy, libdvdread, libdvdcss too [20:53] Pig_Pen: great thanks for the tip [20:53] what is vobcopy? [20:53] dvd movie ripper tool [20:53] makes HUGE files so you will need a large disk [20:53] that is good to know, though I would not have much use for it. [20:54] dchmelik, A large disk or RAID. [20:54] i have a mp3 77min psy trance mixup for pulic download at http://bur.st/~hashi/ [20:54] it is my gift back to the community [20:55] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [20:55] by all means if you dig trance then lap that up [20:56] the tracklisting is posted also [20:58] hashi, I'm grabbing it now. [20:58] elite [21:00] so am I... if you want some more stuff to mix I made some which is at http://www.traxinspace.com/profile/darwin/ [21:00] I would prefer it be used in releases under 'Creative Commons' rather than 'public domain.' [21:01] k k well i wont release a mix containing it till i get the ok from you and you are credited [21:02] will change it really if i need to [21:02] its pretty fast and loose i just want the music to be spread far and wide [21:02] thanks... I would also prefer non-commercial Creative Commons, though a lot of people in here might think that is not so good... I would make a commercial exception for you but not corporations. [21:02] i'm no doubt breaking the law [21:03] right i see what you're saying [21:03] thanks [21:03] ;] [21:03] dchmelik, For crying out loud! Do we all have ponytails? LOL!! [21:04] no... I guess I am not sure what many Slackers think... but I am on #fsf-members and was just thinking about that a bit ;) [21:05] Mine is past my butt!! [21:05] 11 years and going. [21:05] Im going to cut it off in your sleep [21:05] LOL!!! [21:06] haha, Shingoshi... mine is to my mid-back [21:06] Sometimes, I'd like to cut it off in my sleep!! [21:06] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:08] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:08] hd (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:09] dchmelik: im just creating a login now [21:10] hashi: you do not need a login to dl my stuff, but it would be interesting if you upload [21:11] ahh well i got asked for login when attempted to d/l [21:11] dun matter [21:11] could be great [21:11] JJJunkk_ (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [21:11] JJJunkk_ (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:11] just leeched it down will listen soon [21:12] hashi, and dchmelik: I've bookmarked both of your sites. [21:12] awesome ;] [21:12] Created a new folder in bookmarks; Slackers!! [21:13] lol [21:13] I couldn't resist that. [21:13] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.79.177) joined ##slackware. [21:14] Hi all [21:14] heya [21:15] Shingoshi: do you not have a Slackware page too? I thought I saw one with a Japanese-sounding handle... [21:15] No, I don't. [21:15] dchmelik: am listening ... you're smakin it up ...i am down! [21:16] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:16] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:16] thanks, hashi :) [21:16] no probs [21:16] what production warez are you using ? [21:17] is it done on slack ? [21:17] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:17] all of that was with Fast Tracker ][... the 24-tone one was in MadTracker ][ on WINE in Slackware.... [21:17] jeev you're in luck [21:17] ahh i see [21:17] http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14635349 [21:18] hashi: looks like it is going to take 21 hrs for me to finish getting your mix... but I could start listening to the beginning... [21:18] ahh i see well thanks for making the effort [21:18] its worth it [21:19] i will hang about for your feedback [21:19] dchmelik, Sorry about that. Mine is already done. -9 minutes. [21:20] I do not think it will really take 21 hrs... but maybe I have to kill some process... it should be 10x as fast. [21:20] ahh [21:20] 0hmm Intel seems to be getting into the software field [21:21] hi guys everything ok tonight? [21:22] nille_: nope [21:22] What does a plus sign in the ls -l output mean? ÿ-rw-r--r--+ 1 bharris users 56969 May 28 13:51 [21:22] It has a plus sign after the file mode [21:22] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.79.177) left irc: "brb" [21:23] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:23] hd (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [21:23] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:24] antiwire why not? [21:25] oh it's because of posix acl ugh [21:25] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:25] setfacl -b * [21:25] that f [21:25] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:25] that fixed it [21:26] nille_: i found this under my bed! http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1244251349449.jpg [21:26] if you guys have not noticed yet there has been a dev build of Google Chrome released for Mac and Linux [21:26] antiwire do i dare to look :p [21:27] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] antiwire looks tasty ;) did you eat it? [21:28] I ran and now i'm using wifi at a coffee shop [21:28] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:30] alienBlurb (i=3351@slackware.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:30] boy Linux is being bashed a lot by two big companies lately [21:30] kitche: which? [21:31] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:31] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:31] Adobe and Google(well the head of Google Chrome anyways) [21:31] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:31] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] I am surprised at the person in Google doing that. [21:31] what a lamer [21:32] dchmelik: he most bashing about the non-unity thing mainly [21:32] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-168-176-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [21:33] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] antiwire well don't drink to much coffee and the girl that serves there isn't hot for you so you don't need to lie to go there [21:33] kitche: well there is some reasonableness in that unless LSB is good and accepted... which I do not know [21:33] nille_: lol! [21:35] kitche the non-unity thing is most complained about by windows developers because they need to learn new things [21:37] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:37] nille_: if you say so but the non-unity thing now is big since most distros don't even use the same sound system [21:38] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.241) joined ##slackware. [21:38] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.79.177) joined ##slackware. [21:38] well the thing is that they do use the same soundsystem only that many adds diffrent layers on top of it [21:39] i always say go for alsa [21:40] I want one that can run a GUS in Slackware 12.2 [21:40] I know Adobe is mainly getting upset about the forks of glibc mainly [21:40] but ALSA is removing the ISA drivers [21:41] really if your using ISA I would use OSS with that [21:41] yeah, but I am unsure even OSS has GUS drivers anymore. [21:41] Action: kitche me doesn't matter about the two channel since my ssytem supports two channels or more using OSS [21:43] man looks like qemu is thinking of ditching kqemu [21:44] ISA sound card? [21:44] Erhm...why? [21:44] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [21:44] kitche i can understand that they worries about eglibc when they distributes binairies, i would also [21:44] I had a ISA sound card in one of my systems before the processor fried [21:45] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "BitchX: the un-Cola" [21:45] I did too..10 years ago [21:45] think I had my system around 1998ish [21:45] well alsa has OSS support so alsa should work [21:45] so yeah 10 years ago [21:46] ISA sound cards had a lot of bus noise too..bleh [21:46] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:46] ISA damn those sound cards where big [21:48] some of the SB ones are small... I still have a few. [21:49] i still have some isa sound cars too (don't know why really) and the ones i got are big [21:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.79.177) left irc: "leaving" [21:59] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:59] Shingoshi: how did you go? give it a listen yet ? [22:01] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.51.60) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.79.177) joined ##slackware. [22:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:10] hashi, I haven't listened to it yet. I'm busy with other things, and need to eat. [22:11] ahh well cool man no worries [22:11] in other words, he's too leet [22:12] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [22:13] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:14] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.37) joined ##slackware. [22:15] antiwire: lol [22:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] evening guys [22:18] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:18] evening nachox:) [22:19] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [22:19] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:20] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:23] how do you get rid of auto away in bitchx ? [22:23] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] i tried /set auto-away off but no go [22:24] you use some other irc client [22:24] oh [22:24] Definitely. [22:24] i don't know the answer, but i'm just saying, if it's not in the manual and you can't figure it out, use something else [22:24] ok well i'll work on that chief [22:24] bitchx is eol [22:25] bitchx was removed from slackware due to it's known unfixed vulnerabilities and security trackrecord [22:25] rworkman, so you doing any playing with either -cuirrent branch? [22:25] s/cuirrent/current [22:25] long live bx :) [22:25] TwinReverb: of course. :) [22:26] rworkman, do you have a non-official package repository for either? i'm interested in trying slackware64-current and then buying an eee pc to try out slackware-current (so i can play with both) [22:26] TwinReverb: still too much flux to start building packages for -current yet [22:26] back soon on something else [22:26] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] hashi (n=hashi@d122-104-82-12.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: "BitchX: don't leave home without it!" [22:27] rworkman, do you have an installer dvd for either -current branch? how about you, ananke? [22:27] TwinReverb: I don't, but it's easy to make. See the README files in /isolinux [22:27] roger [22:27] hashi (n=hashi@d122-104-82-12.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Action: TwinReverb needs to switch from grabbing just slackware/ and extra/ to the entire tree then 8-/ [22:27] heh epic4 ...ph34r [22:28] i dig that all the stuff i love is standard on slack [22:28] I am not sure epic is as versatile as irssi [22:28] I know Erik Hanson swears by epic, but I don't care for it. [22:29] yeah i have heard of irssi but i have been ircing since back in the day and have never even tried it [22:29] so have I, but my friend who probably IRCed since the late 80s or early 90s likes irssi now... we liked ircII [22:29] if i have to go text mode, irssi is my favorite [22:30] ahh ok well i'll give it a go then can't be assed for now though [22:31] i just wanted to stop annoying away messages flooding the chan [22:32] especially considering that I am here alert and functioning anyway [22:33] Pidgin has a plugin for that, though GUIs are not yet nice enough that I totally like [22:34] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [22:35] I'm doing excellent MLanden, how are you? [22:35] Doin' fine for the evenin' thanks firebird619 [22:36] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-235-44.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [22:40] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [22:40] Action: BP{k} started with ircII -> bitchX -> irssi. [22:42] Action: diven mirc -> xchat -> irssi -> xchat [22:42] :D [22:43] diven: I didn't include windows clients ;) [22:43] Action: gar0t0 started with mirc --> xchat --> epic --> xchat --> irssi [22:43] BP{k}, I was ignorant back then... [22:43] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Client Quit [22:44] for some reason I tunnel xchat while I am at work most of the time [22:44] zGhost (i=zach@unaffiliated/zghost) joined ##slackware. [22:44] whiskey tango foxtrot... [22:45] wtf? [22:45] somehow I have broken my /usr/include directory [22:45] hmm, awesome. alpha google chrome for linux [22:45] Action: zGhost has just switched to XFCE [22:45] hard getting used to [22:45] I don't see how though, haven't done much of anything as root in a while [22:46] diven: hehe, i even used wsirc at some point far far back [22:46] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] ehh. Weird. 2 xterms, both running bash, both cd'ed to /home/urchlay. One of them I can "gcc -o hello hello.c", no problem. The other one, the same command chokes, claiming "/usr/include/stdio.h:34:21: error: stddef.h: No such file or directory" [22:48] comparing the environment of the two shells (set > blah), they only differ in the PPID and WINDOWID environment variables (which are expected to be different) [22:49] zGhost (i=zach@unaffiliated/zghost) left irc: "Leaving" [22:49] F-117 (i=SPFC@unaffiliated/F117) joined ##slackware. [22:49] apparently ccache is causing the problem (call /usr/bin/gcc instead of just gcc (which is ccache), and all's well) [22:50] F-117 (i=SPFC@unaffiliated/F117) left ##slackware. [22:50] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [22:50] hashi: Is this the kind of mix that is best to listen to on headphones for the full psychological effect? [22:50] eh, except "rm -rf ~/.ccache" doesn't fix it. WTF? [22:50] BP{k}, how old is wsirc? [22:51] well yes if you do not have access to serious pro amps and speakers that are four times 200 watt speaker cones [22:52] at an entry type level to get a party going [22:52] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.26.86) joined ##slackware. [22:52] diven: mid 90ss [22:52] If at boot time, I have more penguins than will fit on a single line, will they wrap until all are displayed? [22:53] I do not like playing stuff that loud... I guess my speakers all together are 240 - 260 W [22:53] with the later you get the vibrations striking your whole skeletal bone structure [22:53] Is there a way to convert a plaintext ssh private key to encrypted form? [22:53] not just your ear drums for full effect [22:53] i.e. as if it had been created with a passphrase in the first place? [22:54] I will turn up my bass then [22:54] in this evevnt you may have the urge to dance to it [22:54] ;] [22:54] because right now it doesn't have a passphrase, but I would want to encrypt it so it does have a pass phrase [22:54] I do sometimes even alone [22:55] bryanlharris_ : ssh-keygen [22:55] see ssh-keygen(1), probably is a way [22:55] yeah thats cool [22:55] yeah reading man page [22:55] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:55] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[23:20] wow! does google chrome run it's own dns locallyh ? [23:21] dunno [23:21] but it owns your soul once you click it...heh [23:21] yea my little cousin has it [23:21] how do i tell rsync to ignore files with exact size and name? [23:21] i put my dns poison as his dns server [23:21] i mean pc [23:22] and it's saying link is broken even tough it's poison [23:22] stupid google [23:24] "We're gonna fry your ass, Nukem!" [23:24] files A and B on drive Z are being copied over to drive y, which also has files A and B. how do i tell rsync to ignore files A, B? :P [23:25] antler: --exclude ? [23:25] I think there's a flag to skip existing source files if they already exist and/or ar newer [23:25] BP{k}: ok. too late now i just ran it. :P [23:26] antler, I used grsync for a while, you can check boxes for what you want, then view the command line of what you chose [23:26] maddslacker: oh, it's a front? [23:26] yeah [23:26] GUI [23:26] bryanlharris_ (n=bharris@xob.neospire.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:26] very handy program [23:27] maddslacker: way cool. gotta hook myself up :D [23:27] i like clicking checkboxes :P [23:27] want to hear a strange symptom happening in my Virtualbox of XP? I brought a spreadsheet home from work, fired it up in my vbox excel, and all the text in the the entire spreadsheet is green. I put the usb drive into my roommate's windows computer, the text is all black. [23:28] slKIvs (n=ivan@24.116.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [23:30] hashi: you say you changed your music platform to Slackware... I compose on Slackware, but as a DJ what software do you use or think you will find useful? [23:30] antler, http://www.slacky.eu/aadm/pkgs/index.php?ver=6&pkgname=grsync&pkgver=0.6.3 [23:30] yer hooked up [23:30] :D [23:30] well i suppose wine is essential for running certain things i have used in the past [23:30] maddslacker: thanks, mate ;) [23:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] yeah, I use that for most trackers [23:31] damn I want my car back [23:31] the wares i used to digitally mix were traktor studio by native instruments [23:31] antler, np, the site's in Italian, but the big blue download button is easy enuf to find [23:31] and also zulu DJ [23:31] antler: grsync is also on SBo. [23:31] each has merits [23:31] traktor more for live performance [23:32] zulu more for recording a nice mixup [23:32] firebird619, sbo? [23:32] firebird619: maddslacker : gee, slacky.edu or sbo? :P [23:32] what's that? [23:32] slackbuilds.org. [23:32] oh [23:32] antler: How's it going? [23:32] i've had good luck with the slacky builds, they tend to be clean [23:32] hashi: since those are in WINE I do not think I will get to them yet... but maybe if we talk later. [23:33] sure [23:33] ill stick around and pass on infoz [23:33] firebird619: yo, man! good. weather's a little depressing here--wet snow/rain. how are things? [23:33] antler, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/grsync/ [23:33] i am hoping i can find linux native software though [23:33] yer really hooked up now [23:34] maddslacker: yeah, i'm there :) [23:34] antler: doing excellent, thanks. Weather was great again today. :) [23:34] lmms 0.4.4 is what i plan on installing from source for production [23:34] what is lmms? [23:35] Linux Multimedia Studio [23:35] lmms uses wine to be able to use all sorts of plugins VST type stuff [23:35] Action: antler high-fives maddslacker (in a non-gay, masculine, testosterone kind of way) [23:35] yes [23:35] antler, lol [23:35] antler: haha [23:35] that sounds fun, but it will be a while before I get into VST unless ModPlug can scroll itst tracks [23:35] you're assuming I'm male just cuz I run slack? [23:35] What happened to the new Slackware logo? [23:35] i see [23:35] Why isn't any more on the site? [23:36] hashi: lmms is also here: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/audio/lmms/ [23:36] cause we all hated it [23:36] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:36] antler: You stopped being lazy and tried opera 10 b1 yet? :P [23:36] oh wow awesome then i will do that for sure [23:36] thanks ;] [23:36] maddslacker: i assume everyone's male in here :P [23:36] firebird619: hahaha nope! [23:37] antler: even nix_chix0r? :P [23:37] hehe [23:37] firebird619: yeah, definitely him! [23:37] hahaha [23:37] billywayne (n=bwayne@68-119-83-231.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:37] dkerschner (n=dkerschn@65.101.144.42) joined ##slackware. [23:37] I mean I am, but there are chicks who run nix, like 3 of them [23:37] maddslacker: yeah, one of em is in here. :) [23:37] i know [23:37] the whole point to this bent of free software community type platform choice [23:37] The other two are probably in #ubuntu. ;) [23:37] what new Slackware logo?! I like the original! [23:38] it's like a chick who can drive a standard transmission, there's something inherently hawt about it [23:38] is i have this theory that should not have to spend thousands on proprietary software like logic pro and cubase [23:38] depends on your defintition of "running" [23:38] dchmelik, he's talking about the reversish mirror one [23:38] it sucked [23:38] to make great music [23:38] firebird619, heh [23:39] or pclinuxos [23:39] lol [23:39] maddslacker: or linux mint. :P [23:39] I just wiped linux mint 5 minutes ago [23:39] crappy [23:39] just a reskinned ubuntu. boring. [23:39] i have an image in my mind of girls that run linux; they all look like female engineering students. [23:39] briareus: good for you. :) [23:40] I thought slackboy would auto kick someoene for mentioning buntu...heh [23:40] maddslacker: oh great, you had to mention that didn't you. :P [23:40] antler, picture that hacker chick on 'Criminal Minds' [23:40] firebird619: I was running it in a vm to test it because I liked the screenshots and their color schemes, but I didn't realize it was what it was til I ran it. sucktastic. [23:40] hey, I have been kicked by slackboy [23:40] what are you guys crazy? everyone knows there are no women on the internet! [23:40] << [23:41] >> [23:41] "The internet is for pr0n" [23:41] Action: dkerschner coughs. [23:41] ... [23:41] briareus: yeah, their artwork isn't bad though. I like their flux setup, just not the distro itself. [23:41] sorry. [23:41] firebird619: same here [23:41] maddslacker: if linux girls looked like that, then i'm the king of siam. and you're the queen. [23:41] haha [23:42] dkerschner: with a silly comment like that, your penis will never find its way into my vagina [23:42] hey, it's your turn to be the queen [23:42] briareus: wow. [23:42] briareus: somehow that doesn't really bother me. [23:42] maddslacker: hahah [23:43] Argh, my sent mails didn't import into opera. :( [23:43] briareus: wow [23:43] dkerschner: you have no idea what you are missing. [23:43] anybody installed slack x64 yet? [23:43] no. Slackware 64-bit has been out for 2 weeks, and nobody here has even thought about installing it [23:43] (come on, what do you think?) [23:43] not true, I've thought about it, just haven't done it [23:44] fortune: "No one gets too old to learn a new way of being stupid." [23:44] firebird619: "don't count your chickens, just shoot them." [23:44] Mmmmm, chicken. :) [23:44] apparently I've got 16.5 days uptime with slackware64 [23:45] didn't think it'd been out that long... [23:45] it doesn't taste like chicken at all [23:46] I have been using it a 1 to 1.5 weeks. [23:46] (Slackware64) [23:46] wow. rsync --progress is way cool haha [23:46] see you all [23:47] later gar0t0 [23:47] firebird619: :) [23:47] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.79.177) left irc: "leaving" [23:49] antler: --stats is a good one too. ;) [23:50] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-224.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [23:51] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) joined ##slackware. [23:52] billywayne: k, :D [23:53] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:54] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [23:57] antler: if you just add -P to your rsync flags, it's the same. [23:57] btw [23:57] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-224.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:58] rsync -azPv src dst <- woot! [00:00] --- Sat Jun 6 2009