[00:00] alkos333, YES [00:00] been playing it in linux for years [00:00] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241007.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:01] i play ut in linux [00:01] ya i still play :) [00:01] I play UT2K4 some. [00:01] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] infact i havn't played it in 23hrs .... that reminds me [00:02] haha [00:02] Ok, so you are playing OpenUT, then correct? [00:02] no [00:02] i can only play a short time because online everyone beats me so i get to angry :p [00:02] Soul_keeper: please do tell :) [00:02] the loki linux installer with the original cd [00:03] i did wine w/ original cd [00:03] Soul_keeper: of the loki mirrors seem to be down [00:03] here i'll put it on my webpage [00:03] do you have the GOTY edition CD ? [00:03] native original UT [00:04] No, where would I acquire one [00:04] ? [00:04] UT2k4 is officially supported in linux, IIRC the linux installer is on the disk, install and then get the updates from icculus.org [00:04] It is. [00:04] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [00:04] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:04] though i have not played it in a while, mainly because the internet right here sucks too much to do anything [00:04] I can download it through Steam as well? [00:05] http://sterlingdesktops.com/ut-files [00:05] alkos333, you get the game and install it [00:05] its like $10 right now... [00:05] edman007: Is UT2k4 the latest? [00:05] no [00:06] ut3 i believe [00:06] UT3 is, and it does not run on linux (maybe wine though) [00:06] ut3 is the latest, but they spit on the linux community at the last minute [00:06] Soul_keeper: That's too bad [00:06] only the server version of ut3 was ported [00:06] Soul_keeper, the UT3-linux mailing list is still active, rofl [00:06] That sucks.. [00:06] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:06] Soul_keeper: Could I still play UT2k4 online with other people? [00:07] Are the server fully functional, etc? [00:07] *servers [00:07] edman007, yeah i'm surprised, i never read the posts just looked at the titles, people were really angry [00:07] alkos333, should be, i have the game but don't play it [00:07] UT2k4 works online [00:07] Sweet [00:07] A lot of people playing it still? [00:08] well last time i played it there was alot of ppl online [00:08] Soul_keeper, yea, i signed up to the list a long time ago (and i almost bought it_...then when it became pretty clear it was going nowhere i just set up a filter to delete everything not from ryan... [00:08] he has not posted to the list in about a year [00:08] :( [00:08] edman007: So why all these loki files if I can just get an official CD, which supposedly has a linux installer? [00:08] i bought it the first day it came out on false promises, like a sucker, have never played it [00:09] There is a reason I use Windows for gaming [00:09] alkos333, they are updated...and i don't think the first rev of the ut2k CD has the loki installer on the disk [00:09] openarena! [00:09] i will use whatever games linux gives me and be happy with that [00:09] lander [00:09] get it [00:09] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] edman007: what's updated again? [00:09] moomoo [00:09] well ryan said it will come an port and i think hes done but there might be some legal things [00:09] i've been playing wesnoth that's a fun one [00:10] but anyways, grab any UT2k disk, the loki installer will work with them if its not included, and then grab the patches from icculus.org [00:10] nix_chix0r, moo [00:10] wesnoth is greate [00:10] did you blow up yet? [00:10] and are you secured in a bunker? [00:10] edman007, not yet it could be any day now i'm having contractions all the time:P [00:11] nille_, ryan said that it was working just fine and could perform a release in december '07, he was waiting on legal....and that is where we are now.. [00:11] where does the output of programs in rc.local go? [00:11] Soul_keeper: oh yeah, how's wesnoth :)? [00:12] nix_chix0r, well make sure they put you in a bunker [00:12] alkos333, turn based strategy fighting, don't use too many resources so people from all over the world play it. there are hundreds of devs active in it's developement [00:12] nille_, so i'm doubtful of any ports coming out for a long time, the main issue is that i don't think they are ever going to get it licensed [00:13] dionysian: try dmesg [00:13] dionysian, it goes to tty1 [00:13] im not sure about it giving rc.local though [00:13] edman007: gross [00:13] they all go to tty1 [00:13] dionysian, yup, well redirect if if you don't want it there [00:14] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:14] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:14] alkos333 wesnoth is addicting [00:14] nille_: :) [00:14] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] That means it's good :) [00:15] yes it is but it takes some time to get into it [00:15] Soul_keeper: hundreds of devs.. that's impressive [00:15] well i didn't count, but the credits go on forever [00:15] it's multiplayer over the internet [00:16] probably all the language translations [00:16] i like that wesnoth comes in my native language :) [00:17] sometimes if i can't sleep i'll join a server, and they'll all be speaking some foreign jibberish, i dunno what they're saying but we still play [00:17] :) [00:17] nille_: :) [00:18] Where are most players from? [00:18] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] everywhere [00:18] fair enough :) [00:18] esom_ (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:18] Nice, C++ [00:18] it also works on osx and windows so it's a pretty large userbase sometimes [00:20] That's so sweet [00:20] That's heroic development right there [00:22] hmm there is no slackbuild of ufoai on slackbuilds.org [00:26] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-44-50-73.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:27] make one! [00:29] i worked on another system today that was running windows XP home on a 2GHZ P4 with 1GB of ram...but a 10GB disk [00:30] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [00:30] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:31] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] root__ (n=nukedclx@ccy190.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [00:32] nullboy: lucky..the recent server migration I did most of the machines were P3's with 256 megs running XP [00:33] even with 512 i see xp systems crawl [00:33] xp isnt bad with 512 [00:33] or even 256, in classic theme mode [00:33] this laptop does ok with XP [00:33] it's usable but far as i'm concerned, 1GB should be the min though [00:33] 550MHz Celeron/512M ram [00:33] Soul_keeper: wesnoth is soo smooth [00:34] eeeGuita1man (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:34] my home fileserver is running slackware with 512MB ram and it does fine but if i run XP on that same system it's horrible. i think mostly due to some linux drivers being better maintained [00:34] I run Vista myself [00:34] nullboy: slackware with X? [00:35] nooper: X when i need it there [00:35] it has a dual gigabit network card cand 750GB of mirrored storage. i just pump backups to it [00:36] it does ssh, samba, apache and dnsmasq [00:36] kde usually runs slower than xp, for me, on machines with equal specs [00:37] i turn kde down when i use it on that system though [00:37] the only time i use gui on that system is for burning DVDs [00:39] hiya, folks. not much to babble about. trying to keep my resolv.conf from being overwritten but i'm googlin' and keeping my fingers crossed. [00:40] just wanted to say thanks again for helpin' a guy out [00:40] and where the hell is snoop [00:40] jiffypop: how are you getting your addresses? the plain scripts or wicd, manually with dhcpcd? [00:41] mfandrade (n=marcelo@189.82.57.20) left ##slackware. [00:41] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: [00:42] nullboy: i'm not sure, exactly. all i know is i run my call gsm script via pppd and i can get to a page only by a numerical address [00:43] add a line like this to the proper config section in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf. substitute the config block number of your card for X: DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[X]="yes" [00:44] k, i'll copy that down and give it a shot. i've read a few pages about commenting out peerdns [00:44] hmm, i'm not even sure if dhcpcd is used for ppp connections [00:45] i've not ran across it in my readings [00:45] i know that ppp can handle a lot of stuff but i'm not very familiar with ppp [00:45] nullboy i could make an slackbuild or many for games but i don't wan't to maintain them [00:46] i've been reading a few other pages with a couple suggestions that i'm gonna try as well [00:46] nille_: worst case then the script get orphaned but at least there would be an example [00:46] well i could post some orphaned builds [00:46] night all [00:47] NyteOwl (i=nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "There are four types of hats to be aware of: Black, White, Grey and Red. The meanings are: Cracker, Hacker, Guru and Victim. [00:49] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] well, folks. i unloaded in hampton, va today and gotta deliver in woodbridge, va tomorrow and also head to philly and deliver another one. [00:49] nille_: as long as they conform, mostly, to the SBo conventions i don't see why not. you might have to reformat them and write a little documentation for the build packages though [00:49] sooooo [00:49] i'll drop by and let ya know when i can. [00:49] thanks, nullboy [00:50] shiny side up [00:50] bet [00:50] nullboy i maintain some slackbuilds already [00:50] oh [00:50] well then right o chap! [00:51] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@166.196.218.228) left irc: "later folks" [00:51] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@acsy180.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:52] alkos333 i've calculated that it uses about half or less cpu resources than ut99 [00:53] ooh ooh - I know how to solve jiffypop's problem :/ [00:53] but he's gone now, and I should go too. [00:54] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [00:54] hmm i didn't even see hes problem :p [00:54] guess to much beer [00:54] I rarely seem to catch him recently, so tomorrow, or whenever he shows back up, he needs to create /etc/ppp/ip-up, make it executable, and put this in it: #!/bin/sh \n cat << EOF > /etc/resolv.conf \n domain whateverhewants \n nameserver $DNS1 \n nameserver $DNS2 \n EOF [00:55] $DNS1 and $DNS2 should be typed exactly as I did. Assuming his peer sends them, they'll be noted like that. [00:55] and with that, I'm off to bed. [00:56] nn [00:56] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:57] we need to talk about your TPS reports [00:58] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:58] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [01:00] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:00] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h253n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Soul_keeper: That's very impressive [01:01] rworkman isn't it easier to add -R to dhcpcd ? [01:02] during a new slackware install you are asked the question about utf. what are the ramifications of saying yes? [01:02] ramifications? [01:02] nullboy, I haven't noticed any unwanted side effects of it [01:02] does saying yes there mean i could corrupt filesystem names? [01:02] existing FS names** [01:03] nullboy, Actually I did use convmv to fix filenames after I updated [01:03] will saying yes make windows compatibility even worse? [01:03] http://www.j3e.de/linux/convmv/ [01:04] nullboy recent windows use utf8 [01:04] nullboy, I don't think so. (I only have slack on this box,) but when I connect from windows with winSCP, it was just a checkbox to read the new filenames [01:04] I think ntfs uses utf16 internally, but I'm not 100% sure of that [01:04] i'm more curious about enabling utf8 and then using ntfs-3g to mount a windows partition r/w [01:05] would mayhem go down or would it work? [01:05] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left ##slackware. [01:05] It didn't seem to interfere here, in fact I was mounting the ntfs volume with the utf8 mount option before [01:05] nice [01:06] i'll setup a test box and see if i can break a windows install [01:06] nullboy it depence on with what file encoding you used to save the files [01:06] the charset applies to the FS names too doesn't it? [01:06] nullboy for that you only need to boot windows :p [01:08] nullboy, I don't know [01:09] Actually, I've never named any of my volumes anything significant with respect to linux. (Wait, we are talking Volume Labels of partitions right?) [01:09] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:09] nullboy the charset applies to the FS names, but it uses the same charset as it was created with [01:10] i'll test it out. i will enable the option during install. mount a disk (r/w using ntfs-3g) that was partitioned and formatted under windows XP pro for ntfs that has a working installation. then i will write a bunch of stuff the the disk and umount, try to boot the windows install [01:11] Sport (n=Sport@c-71-194-13-134.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] ntfs-3g doesn't it use utf8 by default? [01:11] i don't know [01:11] if it does then the question is answered [01:12] Hello everyone. I am installing Slack on a VM with 1 GB of RAM being allocated to the VM. the VM HDD is 40GB, about how much should I use for swap space? [01:13] Roll some dice. [01:13] Sport, do you want to hibernate it? [01:13] Sport: just give yourself 1GB of swap. can't you just add more ram later if you find out you need it? or you can use a swap file instead [01:13] nullboy, linked from the ntfs-3g man page: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#locale [01:13] nathanbw: thanks [01:13] no problem [01:13] dive, not necessarily the VM, but the host may hibernate while using it [01:14] i've never tried that [01:14] If it's virtualbox, You can just pause the instance instead of hibernating in the machine. [01:14] nullboy, I'm not sure if you can change the amount of RAM after setting it in virtualbox, this is my first time using it [01:14] Sport: i'd hope so. KVM lets you choose everything [01:14] Yeah, you can change the ram while the vm is shut down. [01:14] i think ntfs-3g has built in UTF-8 conversion support [01:15] nille_: that's what the page seems to say [01:15] i'm going to enable that option now [01:15] dive, I'd personally make a 1 GB partition in the VM just in case you need swap [01:15] yep [01:15] 1 gb seems excessive. [01:16] jkwood, I'm paranoid ;-) [01:17] tr0nd (n=mathias@h200n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:18] thanks for the input [01:18] well why not use an iso file for swap? [01:18] it's a vm though, that's the only time you're allowed to wreck stuff [01:19] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:21] Sport, I just realized that it comes down to it, you could always create another virtual disk for swap space. In that case, I'd say see how it runs without it. [01:22] just use a swap file inside the main partition [01:22] make it later [01:22] nullboy, haha yes. Man I'm slow tonight. With that, I'm packing it in [01:22] goodnight all [01:22] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: ":q" [01:22] thanks [01:22] peterrx (n=decom@blk-103-242-124.eastlink.ca) left irc: "No Reason" [01:22] Sport: the swap file info is in here http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custom-guide/s1-swap-adding.html [01:23] Joker_-_ (n=joker@64.235.198.63) left irc: "leaving" [01:23] search for "To add a swap file" [01:24] found it. so overall i should just skip the swap partition [01:24] ? [01:24] yeah [01:24] you can suspend with a swap file but you need a swap partition to hibernate [01:25] how that works with a hibernating host and a guest with a swap file...probably doesn't matter [01:25] chloros (i=taqois@80.22.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:25] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.250) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:26] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.250) joined ##slackware. [01:27] ok thanks [01:27] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:28] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [01:30] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [01:31] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.250) left irc: "leaving" [01:31] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:32] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] what filesystem do you guys typically go with ? [01:35] ext3 [01:35] same [01:35] same [01:35] Action: lowkyalur waits for the guy with a flaming sword and cunning arguments to only use reiserfs.. [01:36] youll be here a while. [01:37] yeah the youtube video i watched selected that [01:37] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.205) joined ##slackware. [01:37] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Connection timed out [01:38] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [01:40] anyone good with cisco's? [01:41] Sport: a utube video about what? [01:42] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:42] lowkyalur, use reiserfs, its willing to kill in the face of competition! [01:42] but i use ext3 for most stuff, xfs for myth [01:42] http://ge.ecomagination.com/smartgrid/?c_id=Matter#/augmented_reality <- that site is great if you have a webcam that works with adobe flash [01:43] ...flash 10 [01:43] edman007: do you know how to stream video to a 'webcam' device? [01:43] so you can stream a mpeg to them adobe flash websites... [01:43] hey i'm just curious how much network admins make in the states (or canada). sure i can google, but real responses are nicer. :) [01:43] acidchild, nope... [01:44] 10$-250$ [01:44] i switched to my mac to look at that site, but its worth it [01:44] sometimes more :) [01:44] acidchild: i meant on average hehehe [01:44] I'd expect 35k/yr to start. [01:44] +/- 5k [01:44] eviljames: cdn? [01:44] draws a 3D environment on the paper that you hold up [01:44] yep. [01:44] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-c6fbf697c9f68eb8) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [01:45] thats it? [01:45] sounds crappy... [01:45] eviljames: wow. 30 a year seems low these days [01:45] America is significantly higher. [01:45] But that's to start, companies give regular raises to keep good staff. [01:46] Sport (n=Sport@c-71-194-13-134.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [01:46] antler: i think it depends on what your skill sets lay in [01:46] sounds like "dont become a network admin" [01:46] just general administration is pretty low paid [01:46] 25$/hour kind of thing maybe benifits [01:46] After a few years of experience, pay comes closer to a trade of 80-90k [01:46] acidchild: yeah, i'm sure there are many factors. i was more interested in junior level and maybe someone with 2 or 3 years experience [01:47] antler: 15-20 [01:47] where in Canada are you? [01:47] chloros (i=taqois@80.22.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz) left irc: [01:47] that is also a very important factor [01:47] acidchild: calgary [01:47] Vancouver, the market here is saturated. [01:47] there should be some coin there. [01:47] 15-20 bucks an hour in the states? [01:47] nullboy: ^^ [01:48] yeah, for junior admin stuff [01:48] eviljames: its only saturated if you roll a a low level [01:48] omfg i thought network admins made WAY more given the tech skills that's nmormally associated with such a position [01:48] jesus [01:48] I pay the penalty of being relatively new in town as well, this is a city of connections and I'm only beginning to make them.. [01:49] depends on what you do? [01:49] 15-20 would be for a backup operator to just go to regional locations and switch tapes [01:49] at least in my area [01:49] acidchild: yeah i totally understand that [01:49] i have no idea what its like in calgary, you looked on craigslist? [01:49] my question was super vague, i know. i just wanted a clue :P [01:49] hehe [01:50] acidchild: i was just curious that's all :P [01:50] cool [01:50] :P [01:50] Action: antler has a new appreciation for network admins in general [01:50] i'm over system/net admin [01:51] dealing with customers, 1500 new emails on my blackberry [01:51] is no laughing matter. [01:51] acidchild: you don't enjoy the work any more? [01:51] i start my new job tomorrow [01:51] :) [01:51] related? [01:51] well i use a computer. [01:51] lol [01:51] lol :) [01:52] some development work [01:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:52] getting a incorperated business licence and start as a consulting gig [01:52] nullboy: you're in that field, huh? do you enjoy it? hehe 20 questions tonight... [01:53] (that general field, i meant) [01:53] i do freelance work [01:53] me too soon! freedom [01:53] reputation etc [01:53] xD [01:53] people call you not the other way around =] [01:53] *dreams* [01:53] mostly network clean ups with small to mid size businesses [01:54] thats harsh, windows i'm guessing? [01:54] curious how do u get started doing freelance work>? [01:54] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:54] yep [01:54] taquito: you just got for it and be good [01:54] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.28.196) joined ##slackware. [01:54] taquito: get a business license would be my first guess [01:55] or maybe that's no even necessary [01:55] antler: u do freelance? [01:55] nullboy: how much do you charge? [01:55] no not at all, taquito [01:55] 50/hr [01:55] nice [01:55] so when you comming up to Toronto? [01:56] i'll be in edmonton soon [01:56] in a few weeks [01:56] ew [01:56] :( [01:56] acidchild: nullboy : make you nervous that the business is not steady, if it's not steady? [01:56] antler: yeah of course ;) [01:56] antler: i've been pretty lucky, securing one long contract for good money already, then a very high chance of a 'version 2' [01:57] extending that job security timeline heh [01:57] but after that who knows :-( [01:57] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-76-178.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:57] sounds like it might be kind of scary not knowing [01:57] hi ppl. how do I see the last boot messeges? [01:58] i'm thinking that the pay ain't so great in calgary and surrounding area because a few years back, programmers and comp. techs were a dime a dozen--there were simply too many of them. many (some i know) moved to the states. [01:58] i00nsu: dmesg [01:58] antler: yeah.. [01:58] acidchild: no .. i did that.. dont get all info [01:58] -shrugs- messages then [01:58] ? [01:59] /var/log/messages [01:59] thanks guys. this was more enlightening than google. [01:59] i00nsu: what do you mean not ALL the info? [01:59] taquito: it's like a game [01:59] hehe yeah [01:59] bring it on! [02:00] you work when you can and when you work, work well and then wait [02:00] I turn on httpd and i got some errors when httpd was trying to load some modules.. I need to know what modules are to desactivate them [02:00] lol i guess that works for you? [02:00] dude i'm working with spends 50% litrally on holiday [02:00] i could get use to that life =) [02:00] taquito: i've had the 8-5 setup be fore and i do like that because there is a consistency to the flow. [02:01] slkjalsdjflk [02:01] O.o [02:01] your password? :D [02:01] xD! [02:02] lol [02:02] be (n=chattr@084202232218.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [02:02] looks more like a seizure [02:02] is there a package or something that can make it were I can decompress hqx files? 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[02:14] seriously though... imo net admins have marketable skills that are leagues beyond professors, sessionals, and other instructors that teach descartes and aristotle, something that i do. yet the starting and average pay.... fuck. [02:15] i concur [02:16] acidchild: the older stuff [02:17] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:19] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:20] slackytude (i=10029@p4FD8A5F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:21] morning [02:21] slackytude! vaas saap?! [02:21] antler, waaasss saaaap [02:21] no, no, NO. [02:22] no? [02:22] germans say, "vaas saap" [02:22] ah right [02:22] Action: slackytude didnt get the memo [02:22] vaaaas saaap [02:22] hahaha [02:22] i'll send you another copy of the tps report [02:23] aye [02:24] lowkyalur: it's 'ruzenka', not 's' [02:27] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [02:28] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:30] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) left irc: "Leaving." [02:30] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) joined ##slackware. [02:32] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.128.25) joined ##slackware. [02:33] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) left irc: Client Quit [02:33] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-6.95-102-79.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [02:35] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) joined ##slackware. [02:38] firebird619 (i=jeremy@173-18-59-23.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [02:41] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:45] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:45] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "leaving" [02:48] be (n=chattr@084202232218.customer.alfanett.no) left ##slackware. [02:49] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [02:53] http://help.com/ [02:53] whoa [02:54] http://www.slackware.com/~volkerdi/ [02:54] pidgin has a google plugin [02:55] alice_ (i=alice@89.194.130.239) joined ##slackware. [02:55] nullboy, whoa, pats site is old... [02:55] dood! [02:56] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:56] it even mentions stuff from before i existed... [02:57] heh, grateful dead [02:57] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [02:57] sounds old... [02:58] who's there? what's that noise? [02:58] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [02:58] nullboy, i can hear /dev/urandom! [02:58] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [02:58] Action: The-Croupier waves at the old pals [02:59] cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp [02:59] hows it going guys...? [02:59] Action: edman007 refuses to wave [02:59] Action: edman007 stares at The-Croupier [02:59] Action: The-Croupier feels intimidated [02:59] morning The-Croupier [02:59] give me beer or die! [02:59] morning slackytude ;) [02:59] ^-^ [03:00] Action: The-Croupier prefers to die rather than submit in blackmail :p [03:00] in/to [03:00] Action: edman007 stabs The-Croupier [03:00] Action: The-Croupier bleeds but still doesnt hand over the beer,since it wasnt asked nicely [03:01] Action: The-Croupier hands over some water to edman007 [03:01] noooooo!!!! [03:01] Action: edman007 bites The-Croupier [03:02] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Action: The-Croupier reminds edman007 that The-Croupier has leuchemia [03:02] :p [03:02] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [03:02] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [03:02] hrm... [03:03] anything new...in the slackware world..these couple of weeks? [03:03] anything interesting or exciting? [03:03] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-14-158-71.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:04] uhh, almost spring break [03:04] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-24-88-69.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:04] and there is about 6" of snow on the ground... [03:05] are you going somewhere for spring break? [03:05] home probably... [03:05] Rodrigo_Lopes (n=wiegraf7@201-92-231-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [03:05] which will just have more snow... [03:05] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:06] The-Croupier, no news is good news [03:06] its supposed to snow again this weekend [03:06] :( [03:06] yea, its all bad news [03:06] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [03:07] eh, its going to rain and melt all the snow on friday [03:07] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] and hit 60'F on sunday... [03:07] long island is crazy... [03:08] i'd surf [03:08] i'd surf with it snowing [03:09] nullboy, what is the water temp right now where you are? what is the coldest you have surfed in? [03:09] mid 50's [03:09] F [03:09] The-Croupier: hahah don't you mean hemophilia? :P [03:10] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-139-138.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:10] nullboy, its about 35 right now... [03:10] http://www.wunderground.com/SurfForecast.asp?StateCode=CA&Zone=040&SafeCityName=Ventura [03:11] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.128.25) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:11] this time of year the surfs goes down for a bit [03:12] it will come back from it will come from the south instead during summer [03:12] http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/photo_bamp_900_v03.cfm?id=24934 [03:12] needs flash [03:12] edman007: you're in n.y.? [03:13] yea, on long island right now... [03:13] antler, you in NY? [03:14] it's always like that...isnt it...news seem to be always bad these days... [03:14] http://photos.surfline.com/albums/userpics/17776/OC_wave-Surfline2.jpg [03:14] nullboy, 'POOR+SURF: 1-2 ft - knee to thigh high and poor+ conditions. ' [03:15] Action: The-Croupier is in Athens and it started raining there as well [03:15] edman007: no, in calgary [03:15] The-Croupier, what is the temp over there? [03:15] antler, ohh... [03:16] Action: edman007 pushes antler into the snow [03:16] haha warm today. 8C. snow's melting. [03:16] giuppy (n=giuppy@host13-43-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:17] wha? wtf, how is it that warm up there? [03:17] warm as always but annoyingly rainning [03:17] 19'F here.. [03:17] haha, my house its 9F [03:17] 20 C but rainning all the time [03:18] http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=93003 [03:18] The-Croupier, ....are you living with nullboy ? [03:18] edman007: have you ever thought about insulating your place of residence in ny and your permanent residence? [03:18] antler, i don't own either of em.... [03:19] edman007: i thought you lived with your parents at home... [03:19] semi-yours, i guess.... [03:19] antler, yea, parents!=me [03:19] yeah [03:19] thats part of the problem...graduating this semester though, so i'm going to get a job and move out :D [03:19] Humidity: 86% Dew Point: 42 °F [03:19] it's brutal [03:20] nullboy, http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=11590&wuSelect=WEATHER [03:20] everything slowly rots [03:21] its called life [03:21] Action: edman007 makes nullboy rot [03:21] demi moore is rotting.... [03:21] it's so wet by the coast though [03:22] god she looks like a wicked witch to me [03:24] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [03:31] I love the new QT [03:31] antler: you woudnt say that some 6years ago [03:32] nice has a default setting of 10. [03:32] Does that mean the process is likely to get more or less CPU time? [03:35] devdatta (n=devdatta@nat/yahoo/x-a057ab952577bbbc) joined ##slackware. [03:36] Nick change: devdatta -> duryodhan [03:36] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:36] Action: duryodhan is being forced by HR to give feedback on a lecture [03:36] Action: duryodhan is looking for sufficiently sarcstic comments [03:37] alice_ (i=alice@89.194.130.239) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:37] duryodhan: check the BOFH [03:37] ;) [03:37] eh ? [03:37] Action: The-Croupier is asked to write a dissertation for money... and the money is little $150 [03:38] duryodhan: the-register.co.uk bofh [03:38] bofh.net ? [03:38] The-Croupier: hey :) [03:38] http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/ [03:39] antler: it sounds kind of bad for my ethics...and i dont like the money, and is till monday,... [03:39] hahah [03:40] The-Croupier: what sounds bad for your ethics? [03:40] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:40] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:40] doing someone elses dissertation [03:40] exercise,assignment for money [03:41] The-Croupier: you cannot elude your tradition :P [03:42] ran lilo once to update lilo.conf, it hung and spat out Fatal: open /dev/sdb no such device or address, third time trying it works as normal and updates lilo.conf whats the go? [03:43] The-Croupier, what would be bad for your ethics is when you asked someone else to do YOUR dissertation :) and in the present case it's just earning. there's nothing wrong with that. [03:43] The-Croupier: oh i misunderstood. i thought you said that you were asked to write something for money. :P [03:45] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-94-184.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [03:45] and is there a complete archive of the bofh series for download? i'd like to get to read that [03:47] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.46.152) joined ##slackware. [03:47] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:47] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:48] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:48] my X server has crashed twice in the last 3 days. I got a blank screen and it looks like the server is trying t return to the desktop manager without success. anyone knows what may have happened? [03:50] IntangibleLiquid, could be a lot of things [03:50] reading logs and checking hardware would be the first step [03:51] slackytude, where's the log file? 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[07:07] Action: Camarade_Tux is going to implement a Hilbert R-Tree in ocaml ;p [07:07] w00t [07:08] I need to leave *because* I really don't know how to do it ;) [07:08] i don't even know what that is. [07:09] do you know b-trees ? [07:09] no idea :) need to read up a little on the topic [07:11] Action: slackytude knows them b-trees [07:11] ok, so really basically, a Hilbert R-Tree should be a nice data structure to store geographical (2D) data, it preserves locality and is therefore realy adapted to "get all the X that are less than 3km away from Y" [07:11] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [07:12] in a Hilbert R-tree, you use the Hilbert curve which is a fractal that can fill the space (and therefore can index all points) and use the position on this curve as an index for the tree [07:12] funky stuff [07:13] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [07:13] but the hilbert curve is quite boring : |_| [07:13] cant have everything [07:14] I wanted to use a serpienski triangle with hearts, or a snow flake rather but that doesn't work since it doesn't fill the space ='( [07:14] tr0nd (n=mathias@mail.vaggeryd.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:14] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:16] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:16] see you later guys [07:16] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:17] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) joined ##slackware. [07:18] I like them dancing trees [07:18] altho it makes me hum "dancing queen" by ABBA [07:18] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-33.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:18] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-49.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:58] <_RadioHead> hello world :) [07:58] Hello _RadioHead [07:59] chopp (n=chopp@d142-59-184-251.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:59] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:00] <_RadioHead> what raid is better (software raid) for data raid10 or raid 5 ? which one is safe , coz i have a level1 NAS with linux embedede so IF i need to back data from disks in case NAS failure i can add disks 2 my linux machine BUT do no if in raid 5 i can retreive data? [08:00] <_RadioHead> slackytude: yo yo dude :) [08:00] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@gw1.panoulu.net) joined ##slackware. [08:00] ^-^ [08:02] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@gw1.panoulu.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [08:02] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host115-80-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[08:16] Action: i00nsu what a gm - a cat in my room as my dog - say stupid dog or maby nice dog andthe cat feels free to sit infront of this screen.. hah [08:17] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-19.95-102-37.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:17] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-239.95-102-4.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [08:18] If thats not a cluster fuck of a sentence, I don't know what is. :P [08:18] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [08:20] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:20] rinovan (n=warnet@125.164.234.162) joined ##slackware. [08:21] Makaveli4life (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Nick change: nix_chix -> nix_chix0r [08:32] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:40] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [08:40] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[08:54] hey, i was just playing with 'find | while read' and accidentally typed 'while find | read', which gave me an empty value in the variable (all the time), i also tried 'find | read' and this gave an empty variable as well [08:55] i was wondering why does 'find | while read' work, and why does 'find | read' return an empty variable ? [08:56] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@88-97-28-182.dsl.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:57] Nick change: UdontKnow -> root [08:57] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:58] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@201-65-205-22-ebt.cm.ja.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:58] ah, [08:58] think i know it [08:59] the last line returned is an empty line, just an LF character [08:59] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) joined ##slackware. [08:59] and the variable is set to that [08:59] Action: slava_dp tried to find what read does but the bash manual is way too long. [08:59] it reads input and puts it in $REPLY [08:59] and 'read bla' puts it in $BLA [08:59] oh ok [08:59] but it can also read piped input [08:59] i made a little text doc. that ends with an LF [09:00] cat the_doc | while read worked [09:00] but cat the_doc | read again returned the empty variable [09:00] bono (i=bono@118-160-164-52.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:00] hmm odd [09:00] even if i remove the LF it (the variable) is empty [09:01] it's probably something obvious i'm overlooking :/ [09:02] just curious to find it though [09:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:07] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [09:10] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:10] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [09:12] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:12] HEIL BOB [09:13] BOB BOB BOB [09:14] yeaah! [09:14] morning all:) [09:14] or afternoon:) evening:) [09:14] morning lore tchore manamore! [09:15] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Nick change: root -> Wowbagger [09:17] hexoroid (n=hex@unaffiliated/hexoroid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:17] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:17] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:18] hexoroid (n=hex@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [09:18] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:18] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [09:20] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@dhcp13224.salley.fsu.edu) joined ##slackware. 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[09:25] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:25] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccy190.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [09:25] madbear, you mean the framebuffer size? [09:25] When installing from a (somewhat custom) DVD I get the message 'Insert next disc' after selecting sets and 'full install' - anyone have an idea why? [09:26] I tried > sed s/\"vfat\"\ \"defaults\"/\"vfat\"\ \"uid=1000,gid=100,shortname=winnt\"/ /tmp/temp | sed s/\"ntfs\"\ \"ro\"/\"ntfs\"\ \"ro,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000\"/ > SeTDOS --- and sed s/\ remount_disc/\ break/ /tmp/temp > slackinstall to no avail... [09:26] slava_dp: hmm i got this widescreen monitor, but its cutten now(when not in x), i guess its the framebuffer size [09:26] If I hold the button I can see 'umount /dev/hdc not mounted' [09:28] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-5d95cab6f3c803f4) joined ##slackware. [09:29] stodorovic (n=stodorov@77.76.66.180) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Any slackware employees here? [09:30] Action: stodorovic has problem with billing + shipping for slackware subscription [09:32] eh? [09:32] slackware employees? [09:32] yes [09:32] Oh! Maybe because I did not copy MANIFEST.bz2? [09:32] Possibly... [09:32] There...aren't any slackware employees except for the main guy [09:32] Pat [09:32] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [09:32] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:32] straterra: isnt rworkman part of slackware? [09:32] And AFAIK, there isn't a subscription service..except buying the disks. [09:33] There are support contracts through various third party providers [09:33] buying the disks on subscroption :) [09:33] rworkman is a developer as is alienbob, but, they're not slackware employees [09:33] http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/feedback?id=6pwhhJuG:mv_pc=6 [09:34] yeah about to email Theresa [09:34] you could just..call [09:34] straterra: costs too much! [09:34] eh? [09:34] pfft [09:35] I think it is a good idea to support PV [09:35] the cost of a call might be more than the cost of the subscription [09:35] hitest: indeed [09:36] of course, it's a problem if they dont have my details :P [09:36] order on-line [09:36] i have [09:36] ah [09:36] anyway.. i just want to contact them. will shoot this email off. they should turn up to work soon so they will read it [09:38] Caglar (n=caglar@95.65.160.73) joined ##slackware. [09:38] hi all [09:38] i will be a user slackware tonight [09:39] slackware user tonight*** [09:39] Caglar, vai caglar [09:40] is slackware faster than debian? [09:40] on gnome? [09:40] everything is slow on gnome (compared with kde) [09:40] Caglar, slackware is the best [09:40] Caglar, faster, stronger, higher [09:40] gentoo is neat [09:40] on my system gnome faster than kde [09:41] on debian,arch,ubuntu [09:41] Caglar, faster? u never saw slackware [09:41] fedora [09:41] only because gnome doesnt really do anything [09:41] :) [09:41] Caglar, fedora fede [09:41] Caglar, just slackware works [09:41] is it faster vncsnvs [09:41] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [09:42] Caglar, for sure [09:42] dadexter_laptop (n=martin@modemcable229.25-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:42] thanx i think i love slack :) [09:42] dadexter_laptop (n=martin@modemcable229.25-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:43] will Pat ever do a 64bit slackware? [09:43] probably [09:43] $someday [09:43] Until then, We have Slamd64. [09:44] true but i dont pay fred [09:44] i pay pat... [09:44] You can donate. [09:44] I pay fred with my $time [09:44] hmm. i might look into that. but there's not much spare cash nowadays. especially since i'm learning to drive. [09:44] maybe i will just cancel my subscription [09:44] hi all [09:44] :) [09:44] ouch [09:44] anothe rnew driver [09:44] really? O_o I thought that sth like that was out of the question in favor of efficiency [09:45] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.45.230) joined ##slackware. [09:45] mbhayes: indeed. not crashed into anything yet :) [09:45] though I have to say, slackware's been incredibly solid/stable [09:46] i love slack 12.2. it is rock solid and does the job really well. [09:46] I'm still on 12.0 :( [09:47] stodorovic, Of course, because a Slackware install not only has 'stable' packages - but it has no modifications to the base --- no links all over the place for gui configure programs etc [09:47] slava_dp, I don't like 12.2 [09:47] 12.1 was a bit rough on the edges for me (hardware support in particular) but 12.2 just plain rules. [09:47] I downgraded back to 12.1 [09:47] how do you downgrade? [09:48] stodorovic, I reformatted :) [09:48] ahh [09:48] Yeah, 12.2's kernel has an issue with my video card and the binary Nvidia driver [09:48] damn. i have nvidia hardware [09:48] There is a way to make it go - but why do it when 12.1 works without flaw [09:49] Thurin1: get newer software.. that's a reason to [09:49] stodorovic, You may or may not have the problem - it's not an issue with 'all' Nvidia cards/drivers [09:49] stodorovic, I compile new programs if I need them [09:49] But newer isn't always better ;) [09:49] gar0t0, sai daki [09:49] gar0t0, lol [09:50] phrag: about? [09:50] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:50] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-422171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] Although I must admit that I would like a program that would rebuild my whole system i686 - that would be kewl. [09:51] Thurin1: That's called Ubuntu ;-] [09:51] Thurin1: and..you wouldn't notice a thing [09:51] dusty_, Ubuntu isn't i686 [09:52] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: "leaving" [09:52] It's i386 with i686 optimizations [09:52] ubuntu is 666 [09:52] Ether_Man (i=DJ@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:52] Thurin1: that's gentoo then :) [09:52] I use Slackware and Arch --- the latter being fully i686, BUT I run into stability problems with the packages every now and then... [09:52] why cant we have something like emerge for slackware? [09:53] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:53] There is.. [09:53] stodorovic, Oh god no... I don't want to do all of the stuff by hand [09:53] emerge != by hand [09:53] straterra: i think he meant the install [09:53] meh [09:53] the install is easy [09:53] Gentoo is for people without a life [09:53] I have a life [09:53] :P [09:53] I run Gentoo and have a life. [09:54] Thurin1: Are you saying Ubuntu's 64bit version is not 64bit, its 32bit with 64bit optimizations ? [09:54] straterra, Does your life revolve around computers? [09:54] Ether_Man (i=DJ@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:54] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:54] dusty_: that makes no sense [09:54] dusty_, Now you're being silly [09:54] you are either 64bit or you aren't.. there's no such thing as 32bit with 64bit optimizations. [09:54] Thurin1: no [09:54] Even slackware by your definition is i686 since it's i486 with 686 opts [09:54] muraii (n=muraii@unaffiliated/muraii) joined ##slackware. [09:55] 'ello. [09:55] whats all these i386, i486, i686 i know they are architetures but what do they mean/do ? [09:55] i386 is..the 386 cpu [09:55] 486 is the 486 cpu [09:55] 586 is..pentium mmx (iirc) and newer [09:55] well [09:55] Anyone using kbiff with dovecot in IMAPS mode, by chance? [09:55] pentium mmx up to pentium 2 [09:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:56] dusty_, Theoretically you can install slackware on a 486 for example [09:56] Then pentium 2 through..today is 686 [09:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Thurin1: good luck with that [09:56] Pat should just DROP 486 support [09:56] why? [09:56] Because it would have to be a 486 with a shit load of memory (for a 486) [09:57] dusty_, Same with Ubuntu on a 386 --- BUT, Arch would not - it would segfault so would all of it's packages on anything lower than a Pentium pro -- because the instructions in 686 chips are not present (generally) in lower CPU's [09:57] not to mention itd be slow as shit [09:57] straterra, I said theoretically :) [09:57] Yeah [09:57] You could with a custom kernel and a base system though [09:57] kannan (n=kannan@121.246.242.95) joined ##slackware. [09:58] The 'huge' kernels would probably run out of memory pretty quickly because i've never seen a 486 with more than 64 megs of ram .. and even then 64MB's on a 486 is pretty rare [09:58] Ether_Man (i=DJ@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:59] That's my point [09:59] The installer won't run on anything less than 32megs, iirc [09:59] heh. 486 and 64Mb :) [09:59] stodorovic, You could probably build one :D [09:59] thanks [09:59] I mean 486 mem has to be super cheap on Ebay [09:59] Thurin1: probably. how many arduino's do you thnink it will take? ;) [09:59] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.164.166) joined ##slackware. [09:59] You could probably buy hundreds of megs for like 10 bucks [10:00] stodorovic, I have no idea [10:00] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:00] I really don't know why you would want them in a 486 .. :| [10:00] Thurin1: its expensive [10:01] There isn't a lot of it, and it has no real value..so..people are gonna pay more for it [10:01] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:01] But yeah dusty_ Ubuntu is i386/686 opts Slackware i486/686 opts and Arch is pure I686 .. Gentoo as well, if you choose to do so. [10:01] stodorovic: if you mail Theresa about subscription problems, CC volkerdi@ too. [10:02] Now, to see if this custom distro from Slack works.. [10:02] I added MANIFEST.BZ2.. let's see if it asks for 'next disc' again :( god damn it it's pissing me off. [10:02] jholt_ (n=jholt@72.240.46.138) joined ##slackware. [10:02] rworkman: too late. but i can forward it. he's a busy man. do you really think i should? [10:03] 'INSERT NEXT DISC' - F*** Why is it asking for a next disc on a DVD jesus christ [10:03] stodorovic: have you mailed Theresa before about it? [10:03] rworkman: not about this issue [10:04] stodorovic: okay, then maybe not. If you don't get a satisfactory response soon (and the problem corrected), then yes, forward the mail to him. [10:04] rworkman: ok, thanks :) [10:04] yw [10:04] TheBig (n=TheBig@pclabsai1.dei.unipd.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:05] it's about 7am there now [10:06] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:06] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) joined ##slackware. [10:07] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "bbl" [10:07] oh. was that army from bluewhite64? [10:07] Damnitt..he'll be back later [10:07] yes [10:07] *arny [10:07] heh [10:07] Action: mbhayes feels like throwing up [10:08] You're pregnant! [10:09] maybe there's an alien in mbhayes's chest [10:09] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:09] Or he's ahnald and is having a baby [10:10] ahnald? [10:10] agentc0re|work (n=agentc0r@heartslc.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:10] rinovan (n=warnet@125.164.234.162) left irc: "Dukunglah Syariah & Khilafah" [10:10] arnold [10:10] _Junior_ ? [10:10] That's the movie, yes [10:12] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [10:13] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.44) joined ##slackware. [10:16] bittin__ (i=bittin@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-a8f69a739bf9f4f9) left irc: Client Quit [10:16] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-e5fc26e2fe2370e4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:18] So no one understands the Slackware installation scripts eh? [10:18] there are scripts? [10:18] I can't seem to find any howto's on the net either.. [10:18] stodorovic, Yeah in /usr/lib/setup [10:18] The whole installation is a bunch of scripts [10:19] I made, or am making, a custom version of slackware for future use (Slack the way I like it:) but when I go to install it keeps asking for 'the next disc' -- It's a f'in DVD everything is on one disc.. but I don't understand why [10:20] hmm [10:20] do the DVD disks give any hint as to how they do it? [10:20] or rather, how Pat does it? [10:21] stodorovic, Sure if I copy it verbatim it works - but what I can see in 'slackinstall' (script) it installs a packages list to /tmp/series - (which have been modded) however I suspect that the list it copies is coming from a file I have not modified and obviously being an iso/dvd I cannot mod /tmp/series in realtime... [10:22] I removed TEX and E series.. but I removed all links to them in SeTPkg and setpkg (isolinux) .. so I don't see why it doesn't work.. even though my /slackware has a smaller file tree [10:23] It's going to be a long week [10:23] :P [10:24] Thurin1, the scripts are readable you know :) [10:25] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [10:25] Action: stodorovic should go [10:25] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:25] bye [10:25] stodorovic (n=stodorov@77.76.66.180) left irc: "leaving" [10:25] tank-man, Well obviously if I have 'modified' them [10:26] good luck [10:26] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:26] Yeah... maybe i'll send Pat some monies for the answer [10:26] have you looked at "tag" files? [10:26] haha [10:26] Yes [10:27] Those control what is installed not how/method [10:27] is that not like what you are trying to do? custom install [10:27] erbi (n=erbi@lawn-128-61-30-236.lawn.gatech.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:27] i'm in relationship meddling mode [10:28] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-76-178.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] spook_: Didn't know that was a switchable bit; but it would explain my grandma. [10:30] Is it possible that Vbox is the problem... hrmm [10:30] Maybe I should burn it to a real DVD and see what happens [10:32] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:33] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:33] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [10:35] bono (i=bono@118-160-175-240.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:27] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] hey.. anyway to see whats writing to the disk? im having 100% write with not much going on, on the box [11:28] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:29] ph|ber, lsof perhaps [11:30] damn.. ya.. should have thought of that. [11:30] hrm. [11:30] returned nothing [11:33] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@124-171-225-73.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:33] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.217) joined ##slackware. [11:33] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [11:34] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:34] grazymax (n=grazymax@host233-86-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:34] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@124-171-225-73.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[12:07] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [12:09] Tournevyks (n=gaby@AFontenayssB-151-1-44-133.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:10] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-191073.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:10] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:10] Tournevyks (n=gaby@AFontenayssB-151-1-44-133.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:12] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] gaby (n=gaby@AFontenayssB-151-1-44-133.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:13] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Hi. I'm not used to "no-dependencies" distribs. I want to remove some programs, how to be sure that the dependencies used by this program are not also used by another program? [12:15] With your brain..or ldd :P [12:15] Or running it and noticing that it doesn't work anymore. :p [12:15] removepkg will removethe application itself.. none of the dependencies [12:16] everything is configured, most of it anyway, to use shared libs.. so you should be fine [12:16] but that's not substitute for ldd [12:16] thanks [12:16] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-194278.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Is there a real reason why Slackware doesn't handle dependencies, or is it just to be "old school" ? :p [12:17] umm we like it that way [12:17] Plus, dependency tracking can really screw up other programs.. [12:17] gaby: because that's a better way to do it, honestly. [12:17] lets say you install a newer version of program A.. [12:18] However, the package you install needs to update libs.. so itd oes.. oh crap.. program B,C,D,E broke.. they need to be updated.. [12:18] Ok, I see [12:18] then that leads into a spiral of half your system needing updates.. just because of one program [12:18] Guest_654 (n=IceChat7@ll62-77-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [12:19] (Is KDE 4.0 completely stable ? I wondered why my top-new 12.2 only has the 3.something one) [12:19] gaby: we don't believe so. [12:19] gaby: its in testing/ for a reason ;) [12:19] gaby: 4.2.1 is better. Still not ready. [12:19] however I use KDE4.2.. works great [12:20] I'm using it right now, it's not without its quirks, but it is usable [12:20] except fork3b is still being a pita [12:20] Anyway, I prefer the 3.*'s look :p [12:21] Lapmann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:24] using KDE 4.0 is silly :) [12:24] Last thing : when connecting in user mode, I'm told that I don't have the permission to open the sound device. Is there a classier way than chmod to fix it ? [12:24] tea4me (n=tea4me@HARPOON.WPI.EDU) joined ##slackware. [12:25] make your user part of the 'audio' group [12:25] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) left irc: "Leaving." [12:25] (at least in some distros) [12:27] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-14-65.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:27] Thanks ! [12:28] bughunter2 (n=j@ip4da4427e.direct-adsl.nl) left ##slackware. [12:29] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) joined ##slackware. [12:31] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.70) left irc: ":wq" [12:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:34] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Nick change: BOFH__ -> BOFH [12:37] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [12:37] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [12:39] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] In Slackware, is there, like on Ubuntu for example, an "Add/Remove" software, but for programs... I've seen that there is a package manager, but if I want to remove KTeaTime (why would I do that ?), I cannot do it from there. [12:40] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [12:40] That's becausee KTeaTime is part of kde-toys. [12:41] Nick change: she_dyed -> she_zzz [12:41] Oh. And I cannot delete it without removing other kde toys ? [12:41] well, you are free to do so, but it is generally not advisable [12:42] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-191815.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:42] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [12:43] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:43] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-122.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [12:45] As far as I know, the only other things with kde-toys are amor and... I don't know. less /var/log/packages/kdetoys* shows other stuff, but I don't see it all in my menu. [12:45] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:45] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [12:46] tea4me (n=tea4me@HARPOON.WPI.EDU) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [12:48] giuppy (n=giuppy@host137-54-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:49] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left ##slackware. [12:50] Guest_654_ (n=IceChat7@ll62-76-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [12:50] Hmm... I'm lost... "removepkg will analyse the content of the other packages installed on your system and will only delete the files that are unique toe the package being removed" => Isn't it called... package dependency ? [12:53] Not really. [12:53] no, it's when two packages include the same files. [12:53] it's not checking dependency [12:54] Ok, so I'll have to remove libs too :( [12:54] Makaveli4life (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:54] I'm not sure where you are heading.... [12:55] impomatic (n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) left ##slackware. [12:55] Guest_654 (n=IceChat7@ll62-77-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:56] firebird619 (i=jeremy@173-18-59-23.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:56] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] pprkut: hell and hand basket come to mind. [13:00] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [13:00] TheBig (n=TheBig@pclabsai1.dei.unipd.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] XGizzmo_: so handling pkgtool correctly is now an entry requirement for heaven.......I knew it! [13:02] Good luck, Debianees! [13:02] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [13:03] lucky for us, God doesn't track dependencies [13:03] Well, maybe not runtime dependencies. [13:04] I see it coming. In next ubuntu apt-get will be a symlink to pkgtool [13:04] kharec (n=kharec@88-123-54-205.rev.libertysurf.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Nick change: kharec -> Kharec [13:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-14-65.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:31] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [13:32] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008254093.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:33] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:33] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:34] hey [13:34] =D [13:34] save bob! :D [13:35] Kharec (n=kharec@88-123-54-205.rev.libertysurf.net) left irc: "[BX] The FDA says 5 servings of BitchX a day increases sexual potency" [13:37] Action: BP{k} wonders who bob is. [13:37] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.45.230) left irc: "Leaving" [13:38] BP{k}, don't u know?! [13:38] vncsnvs: no? [13:38] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-135-86.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] BP{k}, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bob+dobbs [13:38] vncsnvs: you're a failure. [13:39] Obviously you don't seem to know that, that would be "Bob", not bob. [13:39] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [13:39] BP{k}, you're worst than a failure [13:40] lol [13:41] BP{k}: vncsnvs is a fail [13:41] :D [13:41] vncsnvs: the correct from is "worse than" not `worst'. [13:41] gar0t0: ;) [13:41] BP{k}: :D [13:41] BP{k}, gar0t0, suck me [13:41] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [13:42] BP{k}, thx 4 english lectures for free, i knew u're a low cost failure [13:42] Good luck with taht. [13:42] gar0t0, eh um punheteiro [13:42] gar0t0, eh um punheteiro virgem [13:42] wait, did he just call me cheap? ;0 [13:42] gar0t0 is a virgin sucker [13:42] vncsnvs: talk in english [13:43] alienBOB: ping [13:43] gar0t0, fala com o fallen pra me liberar lah [13:45] i just joined a few minutes ago and have yet to see a coherent sentence [13:45] Action: jkwood coheres nullboy [13:45] vncsnvs: /msg fallen plz remove my ban [13:45] Action: BP{k} posts a youtube video of jkwood coheretly. ;) [13:46] /msg fallen plz remove my ban [13:46] BP{k}: link ?! :D [13:46] lol [13:46] gar0t0: haha, don't show me up, man. :) [13:47] vncsnvs: um, are you attempting to get kicked? [13:47] BP{k}, the correct form is an youtube [13:47] not a [13:47] rworkman, not ur biz [13:47] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:47] eh? [13:47] man the California guys are just being hammered it seems by the Cal. supreme court [13:47] rworkman is an op [13:48] kitche: in what sense? [13:48] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:48] BP{k}: watching the prop 8 hearing on cnn.com [13:48] nothing good on tv so I m watching that instead lol [13:48] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] err [13:49] cnn is never a good alternative [13:49] ataliba (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:49] all news is just a circus [13:49] kitche: ahh right. [13:50] Nick change: ataliba -> vncsnvs [13:50] I've seen that hostmask before! [13:50] vncsnvs: Rule 1. Don't be rude to channel regulars. [13:50] Nick change: vncsnvs -> dev-null [13:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:50] dev-null kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: By (poorly) attempting to wear your ass for a hat, you made it my "bizness." Better luck next time. --rw [13:50] rworkman: <3 [13:50] lol [13:51] rworkman: Any chance you could convince Pat to include the next Java (6u12) in -current? [13:51] lol [13:51] my apologies for slightly baiting him, though. :| [13:51] :) [13:51] jkwood: sooner or later, sure :) [13:51] K4is3r (n=alpkaise@mailhost01.hitech.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:52] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:52] No security updates, but it has good stuff. ;) [13:52] the native 64bit support? :) [13:52] That would be one good thing. =) [13:53] hehe [13:53] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-155-107.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:53] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] There's... uh... performance improvemnts... and... uh... Windows 2008 support... [13:54] hehe... well, afk for lunch. [13:54] And... I ahve a meeting in five minutes. Awesome. [13:55] Later, all. [13:56] I have set up DNSRBL and spamassassin, but that only seems to cut out 50% of our spam. What's a more effective measure? [13:56] spamassassin is awsome, it fuilters 99% of mine [13:56] make sure you have all the optional packages spamassassin uses [13:56] pi31415: seems like your spamassassin needs more training actually [13:57] damn linux... no pstack... [13:57] pi31415: put an SPF in your domain [13:57] already got SPF [13:57] nachox: hmm should be since it works on linux only [13:57] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-162-196-84.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] I know Solaris has one now but there is a linux version [13:58] solaris' is older and works on coredumps too [13:58] which is what i was expecting from the linux version i didnt know existed till noe [13:59] *now [13:59] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:59] but it only works in processe that are currently being executed [14:06] Guest_654_ (n=IceChat7@ll62-76-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:07] Guest_654_ (n=IceChat7@ll62-67-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [14:08] rizitis (n=kvirc@athedsl-4560821.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:09] MaCaDe (n=martijn@inlv.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:15] ejm (n=tux@208.98.172.28) joined ##slackware. [14:15] well guys, I need a bit of help playing some m4p files. [14:15] I bought jeff beck's newest album on itunes since it's only found there. [14:15] is there a tgz for the win32codecs somewhere? [14:16] google has jack for relavant results [14:17] SPF does not do a whole lot dealing with spam unless the spam is doing spoofing of course [14:18] ejm: don't think there is probably have to make one yourself [14:18] wait. there sort of is..i think it's a flavor of slack, or based on it sort of. [14:19] is it ark or arch? the one that uses pacman for packages [14:19] arch is not slackware [14:19] it's archlinux not even slackware based [14:20] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7497D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] i found a tgz format one time. i wonder if it's maybe on one of my flash drives [14:20] greetings [14:21] QCreator rockz [14:21] cos you can VI to edit text \o/ [14:21] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [14:22] you can do it at kate (kde4) as well [14:22] i prefer nano [14:22] impomatic (n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Action: kitche still has not installed qt4.5 [14:23] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:23] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders who has already installed qt4.5 [14:23] slackytude, hehe, vi friend :) [14:23] and I found all the doc I wanted for my hilbert r-tree :) [14:24] wow [14:24] qtsoftware.com crashed my firefox [14:24] Use konqueror ¬_¬ [14:24] even IE8 works >< [14:24] kitche, happened to my mates firefox as well [14:24] well qtsoftware.com worked until I went to the home page [14:25] use the flashblock extension. it stops stupid flash player from loading their advertisements for every website unless you tell it to load specific ones. [14:25] noscript! [14:25] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:25] ejm I just use adblock plus [14:26] that too [14:26] it comes in handy for an xp machine with 512 ram [14:26] fluxnuk3r_ (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:26] pandora likes to make firefox eat up 100+mb [14:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@nateres205.tel.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:27] and when me boss saw qt, he gave me some money to spend on qt books. good day [14:27] is there a way to stream just the video from an mms? i'm getting lag but i don't need the audio anyway [14:27] Action: kitche is on xp right now while his freebsd machine is downloading stuff [14:27] with mplayer or something? [14:28] kitche, did you update FF yesterday as well? or maybe it was the day before yesterday [14:28] I really want to build a gui around ii so I been thinking about using QT for it [14:28] slackytude: yes yesterday [14:28] kitche, yeah, same for me mate [14:28] kjhkgiuytg (n=rafa@189-47-245-193.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:28] qtsoftware.com works now just seems like an odd little bug maybe [14:29] kitche, gui around what? [14:29] slackytude: ii [14:29] whats that? [14:29] it's a FIFO irc client [14:30] Action: slackytude googles [14:30] grazymax (n=grazymax@host233-86-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:30] heh, nice idea [14:30] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:30] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:31] kitche, isnt making a gui for that kinda pointless? [14:31] slackytude: yes but hey it's starting point in programming [14:31] heh, I see [14:31] Ive done worse [14:31] I don't mind not using a gui but just need something to start with [14:32] kjhkgiuytg (n=rafa@189-47-245-193.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [14:32] I wonder how firefox-qt is coming along [14:32] Action: kitche goes check [14:33] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:34] kitche, you might want to check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHEFvdxUFtk&feature=PlayList&p=22E601663DAF3A14&index=6 [14:34] kitche, small demo video about QT [14:35] mainly QT Creator it seems [14:36] yeah, it focuses on that [14:37] I been looking at QT for a while just never jumped in to it yet really [14:37] ejm (n=tux@208.98.172.28) left irc: "Leaving" [14:39] well, qt is fine and I use it since 3.something. it has come a long way in short time. there is gtk, wxwidegts and tlc. or .Net & mono [14:39] wxwidgets is pretty much dieing really people still use it but a lot are switching [14:39] true [14:41] hersonls_ (n=hersonls@189.81.235.37) joined ##slackware. [14:41] you guys know if its possible to set a framebuffer-type image in screen? [14:42] hmm guess thee is a puredarwin now [14:43] fluxnuk3r_: I m not sure myself [14:43] ok.. [14:43] Nick change: impomatic -> ^ul [14:44] ive got a jornada 680 running jlime, it has a much longer battery life without X, but i like wallpapers. [14:44] slackytude: nice video... do you know which browser engine qt is using? [14:45] webkit [14:45] WebKit most likely [14:45] since it's intergrated now [14:45] ^ul (n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) left ##slackware. [14:46] IrquiM (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) left irc: "Borte, Borte, Borte" [14:46] so if one liked, one could go and program an application in php, and just use qt as a front end renderer using the browser thingy:) [14:47] holy I only have 3.25 gigs of space left out of a 180 gb drive .... [14:47] I really need to do some cleaning [14:47] lowkyalur, yes, and you can also map javascript to your c++ code [14:47] Is it possible to stream just the video from an mms? has anyone tried this before? [14:48] gkkk (n=gynterk@78-28-65-69.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [14:49] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.233.21) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [14:50] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:50] Nick change: gkkk -> gynterk [14:50] hiptobecubic: vlc should be able to do that [14:51] alienBOB, oh? i didn't spot it but i didn't dig very much before i switched to mplayer [14:51] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [14:52] K4is3r (n=alpkaise@mailhost01.hitech.com.br) left ##slackware. [14:54] lowkyalur, this one is impressive too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXS3xKV-UM0&eurl=http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/category/webkit/&feature=player_embedded [14:54] gonna stop spamming qt propaganda for now [14:54] alienBOB, i see how to 'disable audio' decoding but not avoid downloading the audio stream. It's a bandwidth issue i'm trying to work around [14:55] hersonls_ (n=hersonls@189.81.235.37) left irc: "Saindo" [14:56] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.235.37) joined ##slackware. [14:57] slackytude: wow. the ultimate gamers desktop:) [14:57] heh ^-^ [14:58] slackytude, take qt out of my gamez! [14:59] edman007, take your game out of my qt! [14:59] punk! [15:00] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:02] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:44f) joined ##slackware. [15:02] slackytude, punk? [15:02] Action: edman007 fights slackytude [15:02] Ether_Man (i=DJ@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:04] This video is pretty neat. It's too bad qt is so bubbly and ugly. [15:04] urmom is bubbly [15:04] qt supports gtk styles now [15:04] she's 3d too [15:05] some people have women around that are 3d...others dont [15:05] 3d and DDD aren't the same thing, mind you [15:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@nateres205.tel.miami.edu) left ##slackware ("If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit."). [15:05] LuckyFist (n=LuckyFis@unaffiliated/luckyfist) left irc: "leaving" [15:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@nateres205.tel.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:06] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:07] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:07] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:07] hiptobecubic, i just saw some serious shit [15:08] my shit's always joking around [15:08] Action: hiptobecubic takes a bow [15:08] it was serious this time! 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[15:21] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Client Quit [15:23] fluxnuk3r_ (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:23] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0E25B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [15:25] i think i might have snagged a good craigslist gig [15:25] oh? [15:25] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-14-65.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:25] someone has a bunch of hard drives and they need data recovery done on them all to retrieve anything possible [15:25] easy peasy [15:26] jonasfa (n=jonasfa@c953115b.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:27] nullboy: Not always easy though, are they all NTFS by chance? [15:27] no idea, i'm waiting for them to get back to me [15:27] and idividual drives? [15:27] yeah 6 different disks [15:27] they said that two might be totally DOA though [15:28] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-14-65.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:28] Maybe you'll be really unlucky and it will be a 6-disk RAID5 setup [15:28] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [15:28] no it's not raid [15:28] In that case, easy peasy :D [15:29] jonasfa (n=jonasfa@c953115b.virtua.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:30] nvision (n=nvision@g230005134.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:30] nullboy, easy, until he tells you that the drives were recently in a river so he cooked them in the over to dry em out [15:30] s/over/oven/ [15:30] Then froze them in a frost-free freezer to be sure [15:30] (condensation ftw) [15:31] lmao [15:31] I put my drives in the freezer next to my NiCad batteries, keeps them fresh. =D [15:31] i did tell them the one caveat; sometimes disk be dying. [15:32] i told them i'd create backups of each disk for $50/disk, no charge for disks that are not recoverable [15:32] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:33] u7pL (n=intranet@unaffiliated/u7pl) joined ##slackware. [15:33] u7pL (n=intranet@unaffiliated/u7pl) left ##slackware. [15:34] nullboy: That's about half what I would charge. [15:34] nullboy: So you'll probably get the job. [15:34] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.250) joined ##slackware. [15:34] yeah, i'm not out to rape them [15:34] I am. [15:34] they even said in the ad that they were pressed for cash [15:34] blah blah [15:35] zylle86 (i=c8a411b2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5bd39d5357574b92) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [15:35] they way i figure, if they like what i do i'll eventually make up the difference with return calls [15:36] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@201-65-205-22-ebt.cm.ja.net.br) left irc: "....arghhh!!!" [15:37] heh, i hate doing that stuff, data recovery is not too bad, but most problems people have are windows playing with trojans and shit, its just not worth dealing with those people [15:37] yeah, that's what i usually deal with [15:37] but the money is nice so i'll do it [15:38] usually comes down to "my computer is slow", and i just can't take that...they don't pay enough [15:38] rtypo (n=rtypo@pc54.clicknet.iasi.rdsnet.ro) joined ##slackware. [15:38] i tell them what to pay though [15:38] nullboy, what do you usually get to make their computer work? [15:38] juice_ (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [15:38] i'll usually do a whole reinstall for 150 flat but if they don't want that, 50/hr to clean it up the hardway [15:38] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:39] that's my standard rate 50/hr [15:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-49.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:39] eh, thats not too bad i suppose... [15:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-92.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] Nick change: muraii[]afk -> muraii [15:40] 50 dollars? [15:40] pupit, it does not take an hour ;) [15:40] reinstall might though.. [15:40] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:40] i just got here.. [15:40] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host26-81-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:40] pupit: 50 bucks yo [15:41] i'll come over and flirt with your girlfriend and fix your windows [15:41] nullboy: o ok [15:41] now i have to date some chick. [15:43] DeeeeP (i=0@81.193.101.254) joined ##slackware. [15:44] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.129.167) joined ##slackware. [15:44] Action: edman007 has a probability test today :( [15:45] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:45] you mean you probably do but theres a chance you wont. =) [15:46] eh :/ [15:46] this guy does not curve, and the test is open everything, meaning he is making it so hard your can't cheat [15:46] nullboy: u are from States? [15:47] nullboy is from perfect weather land [15:47] Im from florida, is that the same? lol [15:47] fine for me :) [15:48] acidkill, where in fl? [15:48] woodoomagic (n=root@77.46.173.18) joined ##slackware. [15:48] pupit: yeah california [15:48] Action: edman007 slaps nullboy [15:48] im just curious, where people pay 50/h to someone to fix their computer... [15:48] pupit: people pay more than that to have idiots make it worse here. they pay me 50/hr to make it right. [15:49] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] nullboy: i find it hard to believe :S [15:49] acidkill: florida? does that mean you have white hair and back up your car with both hands on the steering wheel while looking straight forward? [15:49] pupit: so what are you getting at then? [15:49] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] pupit: do you do freelance work too? [15:49] antler: turning around to see where you are going is a signt of lack of confidence in driving.lol [15:49] shit [15:49] The old shop I worked at it was 120/h [15:50] antler, hahaha [15:50] 160/h for hardware laptop work [15:50] nullboy: ofcourse i do, but here in serbia i can take only 20E for proper reinstall.. [15:50] acidkill: hahah [15:50] E=euro. [15:51] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br expired. [15:51] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@189.27.17.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:51] is there any large slackware repository other than slacky.eu and linuxpackages.net ? [15:51] pupit: there are many people here who call themselves IT professionals but very few who actually know anything. 90% of the work i do is cleaning up some wannabe's mess [15:51] DeeeeP: SBO? [15:51] packages, not slackbuilds [15:51] Ok..and..what do you think slackbuilds make? [15:51] they make .. i want them made already [15:52] nullboy: i know what u mean, but damn, they must be really ignorant! [15:52] You're too lazy to make em? [15:52] yes :) [15:52] and you should stay away from linuxpackages. [15:52] pupit: yes they are [15:52] ... [15:52] ok , ill try slackbuilds , never used them [15:52] pupit: usually it is someone who barely has a grasp on computers. they get themselves into a bad situation and make it worse [15:52] kama (n=kama@host185-31-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:53] "I've installed a PCI modem before..I can do data recovery!" [15:53] woodoomagic (n=root@77.46.173.18) left irc: "Leaving" [15:53] kama (n=kama@host185-31-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:53] straterra, no openhal was found on slackbuilds [15:53] arent we at the point where computers are disposable yet? when it slows down, but a new one? lol [15:54] nullboy: its same here, but i expect from one who knows English language to not make it worse, here people often screw things up because of lack of knowledge of the english.. [15:54] woodoomagic (n=woodoo@77.46.173.18) joined ##slackware. [15:55] DeeeeP: Using Slackbuilds is almost as easy as falling over, except you ge-- [15:55] What have people found is the easiest way to share files with someone who is completely clueless, running ubuntu, over the internet? Say about 200MB, so email attatchments are not so much going to work. [15:55] Oh, damn. Okay, I'm better. [15:55] mooglenorph: SneakerNet. [15:55] acidkill, i think the bigger problem is that people don't know when they are at that point, why can't the OEMs give them a CD that does a full reinstall that they can figure out, they lose the same as getting a new computer [15:55] mooglenorph: any http/ftp? [15:55] IrquiM (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] muraii, i would try if it exists [15:56] straterra: I doubt they could deal with ftp. But I have a publically accessiable webserver. The simplest thing I can think of is stickign them all in a .tar.gz on my webserver and giving them a link. [15:56] Why cant they deal with ftp? firefox does ftp [15:56] Ubuntu decompresses those automatically if you double click them once downloaded, right? [15:56] mooglenorph, aim [15:56] or a webserver... [15:57] but, yea, ubuntu can read it [15:57] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:57] edman007: oh, good call... I didn't even think of that. [15:57] though it might just use fileroller which opens it compressed instead of decompressing [15:57] irc? =) [15:57] DeeeeP: You google " slackbuild"? If it's not at SBo, alienBOB might have one. [15:57] acidkill: XD [15:57] no i didnt, il ltry [15:58] no luck [15:59] nevermind , i found ti [16:00] woodoomagic (n=woodoo@77.46.173.18) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:01] Ugh. I should keep an ubuntu VM around so I can give people *exact* instructions on how to do stuff. [16:01] What's the easiest VM to deal with on SBo? [16:03] i use kvm [16:04] I like VMware [16:06] I like virtualbox [16:06] (someone give qemu now :) ) [16:07] I LOVE qemu. [16:07] Sigh. #slackware is impossible, I'll just go read the docs for each ;-) [16:08] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] mooglenorph: you probably should have read the docs first anyway [16:08] yeah, how should we know which you'd prefer :( [16:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [16:10] Oh, I think this is #overflow for #slackware-and-yeah-we-can-read-minds-via-MIME-types. [16:10] I don't care about sound or performance, and I want the absolute minimum of effort in setting it up. Also it would be nice if I could find a ready-made ubuntu 8.10 image for it. Of course, everyone defines "effort" differently, so this is still hard. [16:11] wow. [16:11] just wow. [16:12] no, this is not #mind-reading, yes "difficult" is subjective, and we don't really care about pre-made ubuntu images [16:12] Yeah, so... stupid question. Sorry. [16:12] Or anything Ubuntu, but that's just me. [16:12] And good day, or night, or twilight, or whatever, everyone. [16:14] :) [16:15] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [16:15] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.235.37) left irc: "Saindo" [16:18] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [16:21] demoncyber_ (n=marco@200.18.3.253) left irc: "Leaving" [16:24] mooglenorph: it's a pretty well known fact that if you ask 8 slackers the same question, you usually get about 10 different answers. [16:24] ;) [16:25] ...in base 8. [16:25] BP{k}: how did u come up with that wisdom? :) [16:26] muraii: thanks, or I would not have caught the clue of that joke 8-) [16:27] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "brb" [16:28] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: "leaving" [16:29] pupit: Copious amount of good food, ale, wine, and whisky ;) [16:29] alienBOB: +) [16:29] rtypo (n=rtypo@pc54.clicknet.iasi.rdsnet.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:30] silverlight is tempting [16:30] BP{k}: that's a scientific fact. copious alcohol yields a plethora of wisdom :) [16:31] superior dev and capabilities, but insubstantial install base [16:31] BP{k}: after all, u could just say, fart. [16:31] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [16:32] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [16:33] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.45.230) joined ##slackware. [16:34] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. 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[16:53] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:54] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:54] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn [16:55] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:55] If you want me, the you're going to have to come down here! You're going to have to come down here!" --Kirk [16:55] eh [16:56] then* [16:57] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:57] V pna'g oryvrir V sbetbg gb erybnq nyy zl fpevcgf! Gvzr gb chg gurz va gur nhgbybnq qverpgbel. [16:58] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:58] ... . .-. ...- . ... -.-- --- ..- -.. .- -- -. .-. .. --. .... - [16:58] Ahahahahaha! [16:58] rofl [16:59] dive: does that actually say something? [16:59] antler: yes. [16:59] maybe, who knows [16:59] BP{k}: lol [16:59] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:01] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-44-58-206.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] firebird619 (i=jeremy@173-18-59-23.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [17:02] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.18.16) joined ##slackware. [17:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@nateres205.tel.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:04] rizitis (n=kvirc@athedsl-4560821.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware ("Time makes no sense"). [17:05] i don't imagine that morse code is too difficult to learn [17:05] It's not. [17:05] antler: Have you decoded dive's message yet? [17:05] dive: --- .-. .-.. -.-- ...-- [17:05] eviljames: no, i haven't googled yet... [17:06] eviljames: i though BP{k} was kidding :P [17:06] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] I'm gonna make a kitty script I think [17:07] I can haz kitty scriptz [17:07] jkwood: Maybe I'm misreading, but that doesn't make sense to me.. [17:07] hah [17:07] I was misreading 1 letter, bunged everything up. [17:07] Ether_Man (i=DJ@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:07] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Did I mistype? [17:08] it cam over as 'o rl y3' this end [17:08] -.-- --- ..- ..-. --- .-.. -.- ... .- .-. . -.-. .-. .- --.. -.-- [17:08] but I knew what you meant :P [17:08] dive: What, no chzburger? [17:08] .. / -. . . -.. / .- / -.. .- .. .-.. -.-- / -.. --- ... . / --- ..-. / .-- .... --- .-. . / - --- -.. .- -.-- .-.-.- [17:09] dive: Originally, for whatever reason, I read o aly3 [17:09] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-161-243.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:09] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:09] Ah, should have been --- .-. .-.. -.-- ..--.. [17:09] no cheezburgerz for u [17:09] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-161-243.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:09] Lolcats... hehehe [17:09] dont make me decifer that! [17:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:10] antler, well you got one word there [17:10] I'm very rusty on my punctuation. [17:10] this thing is a steaming pile http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdownloads.asp?model=P4M80-M4 [17:10] dive: really? that came straight from a translator. input "i need my daily dose of whore today" [17:10] 'need' came through [17:10] ah [17:11] but you don't want '/' between words [17:11] http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html [17:12] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:44f) left irc: "cd ~" [17:14] Who needs a translator? [17:15] Learn the language. You'll be much happier. [17:16] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] http://imagebin.org/40265 lol! he cant take a bath or get clean clothes but he can get the intertubes [17:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [17:21] rootlocal (n=rootloca@189.22.216.40) joined ##slackware. [17:22] theblackbox (n=sammo@78-105-249-143.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:22] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [17:23] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:23] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders how much a 3" to 4" LCD display cost... [17:23] http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/clt/1061486791.html & http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/clt/1061478764.html here is something nice [17:24] Pig_Pen: Those are pretty damn cool. [17:24] Camarade_Tux: about 75 CDN (and 10 CDN for the magnifying glass) [17:25] antler, 75CDN for 3" ? :o [17:25] those old radios are beautiful, the guy that restores them lives on the north side of oklahoma city, i could drive to his house in about 2 hours [17:25] I'd like to get a wooden box that looks like that [17:26] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:26] but I'd gut it and make it a jukebox instead [17:26] and figure out where to put a 6" touch screen or equiv. [17:26] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Client Quit [17:26] Pig_Pen: i think i made one exactly like that in grade 7 shop [17:26] :P [17:27] Camarade_Tux: i was just being dumb :) [17:27] the one with the big analog display would give you room for a LCD or touch screen, and if you are careful with a jigsaw you can cut it to fit [17:27] antler, he, too sleepy to notice ;p [17:28] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-14-65.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:28] personally if i just blew 275 bucks on a fully restored radio like that i would not change anything on it [17:28] maybe find a cabinet maker to build a duplicate to put some modern electronics in [17:28] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) joined ##slackware. [17:30] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-162-196-84.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] hmm [17:31] Action: slackytude yawns [17:32] getting late [17:32] my ip keeps changing, i need to figure out a persistant name to give my computer for lan users... and figure out how to do it [17:32] heh, Ive got two old radios in wood boxes without transistors of any kind [17:32] big bulky thing but great sound [17:33] dionysian, dhcp server should be able to do that [17:34] dionysian, take a look at dnsmasq. its easy to setup and works fine [17:34] dionysian: why not give it a static ip? [17:35] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [17:35] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [17:36] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.179.92) joined ##slackware. [17:36] chopp: not my router [17:36] = not my choice [17:37] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:37] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[17:46] i know! get one of those ancient wooden radio cabinets, get a 12VDCpower supply, and a super nice car stereo with the touch screen and maybe you can run the video leads to a nice flat screen hdtv [17:47] one of those car stereos with touch screen, that can play DVDs, then you not only have a DVD player you also have AM/FM stereo and cd player [17:48] make way for satellite radio [17:49] i wont pay a subscription for radio [17:49] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:50] if it was not for the wife & kids i would tell the cable TV company to get lost and get a huge TV antenna to put above the house [17:50] That reminds me, I'm paying for a service I'm not using. [17:50] Action: jkwood goes to turn on his satellite receiver [17:51] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [17:51] cable tv just provides you extra channels right? [17:52] i thought that some cable tv companies provide internet connections as well [17:52] yeah mine does tv, radio, phone and net [17:52] yup, and every friggin channel is 30% advertising! why pay to have that! [17:52] indeed [17:52] hardly ever watch tv [17:52] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] listen to radio mostly [17:53] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:53] and if you do want to add an extra tv channel, forget it [17:53] i have NPR on right now, the local college has a station [17:53] they only deal in packages, which usually means the channel you want + 5 more that you don't [17:54] I have radio 3 on [17:54] classical [17:54] radio will never die \o/ [17:54] usually only listen to radio 3 and 4 [17:54] TV is shite [17:54] we just have basic cable, and since the tv in the bedroom is both analog & digital (hdtv) i get the music channels too good variety but i dont want to tie up my TV for music [17:55] Indeed. [17:55] Broadcast looks a lot better with the move to digital, too. [17:56] i agree dive, advertising on tv has totally turned me against it, i am willing to live without it [17:56] yeah [17:56] (Even if a dipole in the living room isn't as likely to work with it.) [17:56] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [17:56] or at least not pay for a cable tv subscription, i wont pay to watch 30% advertising [17:57] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.217) left irc: [17:57] let me find something for you to watch jkwood [17:58] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [17:59] Well, there's always the internets. [17:59] i only get intearwebz out of my coax tubez [17:59] Action: jkwood has 12mbit dsl [17:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw is ok, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe8V2YZzFW8 a little better, just search youtube for "homemade digital tv antenna" and you will get some good ideas [18:00] make a digital quality tv antenna for just a few cents [18:01] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:02] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] you maybe even have the junk parts just laying around somewhere to build one = not even have to go to the store [18:02] Hey, thanks. =) [18:03] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.250) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:03] experament with ideas, you could easily build something better than what sells in stores for many dollars [18:04] Well, right now I'm using a multiband hf mobile antenna with some parasitic elements XD [18:04] It worked for the Superbowl, but I know my flatmate would appreciate a decent antenna. [18:05] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] a fork works quite well ;p [18:05] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.45.230) left irc: "Leaving" [18:06] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:08] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:08] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [18:09] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [18:10] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.112.98) joined ##slackware. [18:11] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:11] g'day [18:11] evening [18:12] hm, cable TV discussion... has anyone got a solution for watching digital scrambled/encrypted channels in Linux? [18:12] Hello. [18:12] That was an excellent use of 7 minutes of my time. [18:12] Urchlay: run a feed from your cable box :) [18:12] yeah... so no, then [18:13] I've got a tuner card that can receive digital cable, and the few unencrypted channels I get, play nicely in mplayer [18:13] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] but you can only watch so much c-span or public access... [18:14] I could watch c-span all day. [18:14] damn there are a lot of EVO wallpapers for cell phones n this site [18:15] pwn (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [18:15] DeeeeP (i=0@81.193.101.254) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Client Quit [18:15] c-span is awful, i cant stand to watch a bunch of corrupted slow witted politicians all day [18:16] Nick change: pwn -> faffi [18:16] exactly [18:17] apparently FCC regs require cable operators to provide unencrypted streams of any channels they carry that are local over-the-air channels, so I get fox, nbc, a couple others [18:17] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [18:17] but very little of what's on those channels is watchable... [18:17] MrHales: i don't know if you realize it or not, but the us federal government is about the most inapt bunch of bumbling fools to ever get in to any government in the history of civilization [18:17] Yeah, that's entertainment. [18:18] lol [18:18] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) left irc: "... Leaving , was still at work..." [18:18] i could not be entertained watching the decay of the usa, this country is slowly dieing like the fall of the romans [18:19] hehe, i cant believe microsoft is suing someone for using the patented long name support in fat in the linux kernel, it is such a nasty thing [18:19] No, it isn't. It's evolving from a republic into a fascist state. It's quite fascinating to watch it happen in live, real time. [18:19] tomtom [18:19] I wonder why the different between daily.0 and daily.1 is so great if there was literally like 15 minutes b/w the two. I didn't make any changes...http://rafb.net/p/PpRUkB16.html [18:20] nachox, i hope it backfires on microsoft and they lose [18:20] Apparently Nokia is claiming they own ogg vorbis. [18:20] And, of course, pursuing legal action. [18:21] cute [18:21] i am going to get a boat and sail off in to the pacific ocean and find a deserted island and live like Gilligan and try to forget civilization [18:22] brixton- (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [18:22] I would do that, but where would I plug in my computer if I don't have a professor who is able to make a thermonuclear reactor from coconuts but not patch a three foot hole in a boat? [18:22] lmao! [18:22] didn't the boat sink? [18:22] No, it was right there on the beach the whole time. [18:23] it washed ashore on a deserted island [18:23] heh [18:23] during a storm [18:23] maybe the prof didn't really want to leave [18:23] That sprang up during a three hour tour. [18:23] he knew Maryanne would never give him the time of day, if they ever got back to civilization [18:23] Well, of course he didn't. Don't you remember the song? "The Professor and Mary Ann" [18:24] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] i didn't definitely mary ann over ginger [18:24] maryanne [18:25] Action: NyteOwl preferred Maryanne [18:25] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@189.6.67.94) joined ##slackware. [18:25] though ginger had those fsck me hard eyes.... [18:25] night [18:26] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:26] marilyn munroe wannabe [18:26] lol [18:28] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:28] i would not have kicked either ginger or maryanne out of my bed if i had either one [18:28] what about the skipper? would you kick him out? [18:29] "... over macho grande?" [18:29] no littlebuddy :D [18:29] :D [18:29] Mary-Anne with the shaky hands ? [18:29] he's more the Mrs Howell type [18:29] Action: NyteOwl ducks [18:30] from what i hear Dawn Wells (maryanne) is a pot head nowadays [18:30] Mrs. Howell, that's a lady with experience. ;-) [18:30] oh right i had forgotten about them... the millionaires [18:31] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@124-171-225-73.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [18:31] mrs howell is everyones favorite milf [18:31] night everybody :) [18:31] take care Camarade_Tux [18:32] bonsoir Camarade_Tux. [18:32] antler, btw you can easily find 3" screens for less than 20CDN ;) [18:32] g'nite Camarade_Tux [18:32] bonsoir BP{k}, Pig_Pen, MrHales ;) [18:32] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [18:33] Guest_654_ (n=IceChat7@ll62-67-188-251-62.ll62.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:34] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@189.6.67.94) left irc: [18:34] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "gnite" [18:35] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.18.16) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:35] hm, what are you going to do with a 3" screen? [18:35] (and don't say "squint a lot"...) [18:36] hmm [18:36] it'll match his other tiny hardware :P [18:36] i'm not sure how to set up dnsmasq [18:36] 3" screen sounds right for an in-car display I think. [18:37] naw - you want one of those 7" diagonals that slid into the dash for storage :) [18:37] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:38] hook it up to the car's onboard computer systems .... [18:38] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.16) joined ##slackware. [18:38] scew the idiot lights on the dash :) [18:38] s/scew/screw/ [18:39] NyteOwl: Don't hook it up to the car's onboard, put a small board and flash storage mechanism in there, replacing the car stereo altogether [18:39] Does anybody even listen to FM Radio anymore? [18:39] Action: antler wonders whether one has to pay for gps service in the car, or whether it's simply a matter of set it and forget it. [18:39] I didn't mean for entertainment though that's a good function too :) [18:39] yes [18:40] I am right now [18:40] antler: set / forget [18:40] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:40] NyteOwl: Luddite [18:40] ;) [18:40] :) [18:40] too bad you can't get thiat car here without inporting one from Japan :/ [18:40] hackers delight [18:40] eviljames: then how does one download new maps? [18:41] Nissan Skyline [18:41] antler: That's dependent upon the gps device [18:41] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] antler: Some gps devices come with maps, and freebie updates off the net, others you must pay. [18:41] eviljames: ah ok.... [18:41] antler: I wouldn't be surprised to find a subscription model out there somewhere. But the positioning would be free. [18:42] yeah, that makes sense [18:43] NyteOwl: you never struck me as the import type :P [18:43] most car mounted gps devices will come with 'preloaded maps of ' [18:43] antler: I like all sorts of cars. If I ahd the money my favorite is an import [18:44] Maybe, maybe not, but I'm one of those "domestic drivers", and I would kill for a Skyline. [18:44] British import :) [18:44] ananke: cool [18:45] antler : now, the maps is what usually costs more than devices themselves, especially when it comes to european maps [18:45] NyteOwl: so a 82 burgandy monte carlo does nothing for you? [18:45] ananke: but for canada, most devices would come with that preloaded? [18:45] i once had a 72 monte carlo [18:45] companies such as garmin release new sets of maps every couple of years, and they cost a bit. however, they're excellent. i highly recommend their products [18:45] I was eating a monte cristo today... [18:45] Oh, wait.. [18:45] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left ##slackware. [18:45] Skyline is a hackers dream. plug a laptop into the onboard compter and tioy can customize just about everything. fuel mix, emissions, hp ... [18:46] antler : very likely. it will say so on the device box. [18:46] ok [18:46] canada's slow to develop; hence i won't need another may for, say, another 20 - 30 years ;) [18:46] antler: : depends on the car iteself. I'de sooner have my 80 Granada back with the reworked BOSS 302 that was under the hood :) Boy was that car a sleeper [18:47] NyteOwl: :) [18:47] I sold the last of that this fall when I got rid of the Keystone mag wheels [18:48] Actually the guy that bought them wanted them flor an 83 Cutlass [18:50] Action: antler misses his 16" silver and gold bbs alloys [18:51] sold them w/ zr rubber for 225 (with rim locks) [18:51] i've got dnsmasq running and it said it read /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts [18:51] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:06] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahahaah [19:07] Oh, Zedge. Some crazy people on there. [19:07] jkwood: were u ever in that car? [19:07] you NyteOwl ? [19:07] Nope. [19:08] Yes, I drove a Yugo. Just once. I could run faster than that car [19:08] that car is numero Uno in serbia! [19:08] Hell the Lada Was a Riolls Royce by comparison [19:08] agree [19:08] nitro25 (n=IceChat7@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:09] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "noda é essa!!" [19:09] and the Lada was a cheap Fiat copy [19:09] heh it's an ugly workaround, but i just decided to register bacchist.homelinux.net (dyndns) as 192.168.1.2 [19:09] half of them burst into flames from electrical problems or fell apart after a year or two [19:09] yogo cars had a nice rear window heater; it kept your hands warm while you pushed the car home ;) [19:09] LOL [19:10] NyteOwl: old jay leno joke [19:10] gnubien where are u from? :D [19:10] florida [19:10] gnubien: seems u know some serbian jokes about that car.. ;) [19:11] gnubien: same way with teh shove-it, er chevette [19:11] pupit: that was an old jay leno joke [19:11] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) joined ##slackware. [19:11] realy? [19:11] anyone have experience installing slack on a vmware fusion VM? [19:11] pupit: jay leno of the tonight show on tv in USA [19:12] NyteOwl: ford pinto too :) [19:12] gnubien: i know who is jay, but is still italian-serbian-invention bizzare fact, not jay mocking show.. [19:12] Action: NyteOwl was actually looking at a 2008 Crown Victoria today [19:12] gnubien: yes, though not quite as bad as the chevette [19:13] NyteOwl is old? [19:13] Action: NyteOwl is ancient [19:13] NyteOwl: ford pinto was recalled cause the gas tank exploded if you got rear-ended [19:13] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-24-88-57.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:13] Action: NyteOwl was old when stonehenge was just a pile of pebbles [19:13] Ford Pinto was fugly too [19:13] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-34-152-85.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:13] yea [19:14] gnubien: yes. too close to the rear of the car. The Pinto wagon was a decent little car [19:14] pupit: yogo was an italian fiat made in yugoslavia? [19:14] get a 1966 Lincoln if you want a big Ford (fordish) car [19:14] isn't it Yugo not Yogo? [19:15] Pig_Pen: commander cody -hot rod lincoln [19:15] I believe it's spelled "yogurt" [19:15] no thanks. If I'm going to the mid sixties it's be a nother Tbird, Mustang of Galaxy 500 convertible [19:15] oops, spelling, it was yugo [19:15] s/of/or/ [19:15] Action: eviljames was wondering where he could find the Mustang of Galaxy 500 [19:15] or a 67 GTO :) [19:16] good car, fast too [19:16] gnubien: yup. [19:16] so as zastava 101 [19:16] zastava 128 [19:16] 67 Shelby would do too [19:17] 20 cents a gallon gas back then too [19:17] My only complaint with the Crown Victoria I was looking at was the engine woukld need some tweaking to get decent (read obscene) horsepower [19:17] not quite. about 40 cents :) [19:17] here anyway [19:18] those old galaxy 500's were cool [19:18] yup [19:18] most american cars were good quality until about 1970 [19:18] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.16.152) joined ##slackware. [19:19] yup, then ralph nadar & congress screwed em all up [19:19] and really went downhill after 80 [19:19] And now, pretty soon, there won't be any American cars anymore at all. [19:19] Yay! No, I mean: Aw.. [19:19] I wouldn't blame Ralph Nader or Congress... It was the big 3 that screwed up the big 3. [19:19] Pig_Pen: chevy corvair rolled fast [19:19] Though I really can't complain. My 91 tbird is in pretty decent shape with minimal repairs over the years [19:20] so is the 96 Roadmaster [19:20] Pig_Pen: I almost find it bothersome when American companies blame the government for stuff, they get all the deregulation they want but when they screw up it's time to blame the gov't... [19:20] my father started buying those things right after nadar condemned them, he had the corsair, a van and the ugly one [19:20] zastava 128 and an Italian guy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9YI7wUFl0w [19:20] NyteOwl: ford makes a good car, chevy sometimes; dodge cars have been bad for decades [19:21] its a combination greed and shortsightedness eviljames [19:21] both the gov and the car companies are at fault [19:21] gnubien: notice that Dodge went downhill after they went to exclusively FWD? Now they're back making RWD and they're getting better [19:22] might be too tilttle too late though [19:22] Pig_Pen: I have to disagree, the government is not responsible for the management at the big 3. [19:22] let the car companies go under [19:22] like any other business [19:22] Pig_Pen: And if anyone is to blame, that's who is to blame. [19:22] superGear: Sadly, they really can't, they have too much to lose in terms of campaign donations. [19:22] NyteOwl: dodge was sold to mercedes and is now owned by a investment group in the middle east iirc [19:22] gotta put sme of it at the feet of the UAW too. I mean an assembly line worker that makes 6 figure salaries in some plants? come on! [19:23] The real problem is that people are just doing their jobs. Most of them probably do not enjoy what they are doing, they could care less. They'd rather be fishing or something. So when they do shoddy work, who cares, right? If people did what they loved, instead of what payed, the world would be a better and happier place. Of course, that would also mean doing away with greed, learning to share, helping one's fellows... "Nobody" wants that. [19:23] well for the most part you are right eviljames, the UAW is greedy, the big shot CEOs running things are too [19:23] NyteOwl: good deal :) [19:23] NyteOwl: That's patently false. They don't make over 80k in terms of Salary and benefits. [19:23] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.112.98) left irc: "Leaving" [19:23] the CEOs get millions every year [19:23] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.112.98) joined ##slackware. [19:23] eviljames: they do in Canada - it was part of a docuemtnary on the car pants. SOme workers were making over 100K [19:24] NyteOwl: Then we, sir, are in agreement on that point. [19:24] i wanna work in a plant in Canada [19:24] the problem with msot of the industries thata re in trouble is just plain greed [19:24] Average CEO used to earn a salary equivalent to that of 80 working men. A few years later, CEO's earned better than what 1000 working men did. [19:24] NyteOwl: But the $71 / hr number that had been bandied about the media took the money paid out in wages, added the money paid out in pension, then divided among current production-line workers and ignored the retirees. It was obscenely inflated so that they could try to break the union. [19:24] Well, "earned" might be the wrong terminology. [19:24] some people don't know when enough is enough and it's time to give back [19:25] "death is ccomming" :D [19:25] MrHales: http://www.monthlyreview.org/598einstein.php [19:25] even if the CEO's took no money at all they US auto manufactures would still be broke as hell. [19:25] MrHales: You may find that interesting. [19:25] pupit: well they say you can't take it with you. in which case I'm not going :) [19:26] XGizzmo_: Indeed, it's not just the CEO, it is management as whole that made the bad decisions. [19:26] Thank you, eviljames. [19:26] NyteOwl: good one :) [19:26] MrHales: If you finish reading it in the next 10-15 minutes, I'd be interested to hear your take on it. [19:27] there are auto manufacturing in the south (nowhere near detroit) that are doing much better becuase the UAW have no presence there [19:27] MrHales: As you can tell, it was written by someone who carries a lot of weight when they put an idea forward :D [19:27] it is one of my favorite movie quotes, from Joe Black... :"death and taxes" [19:27] please no more talk of ceo's and their salaries. it reminds me just how low down on the food chain i am. [19:27] ..cant miss you... [19:28] Pig_Pen: heh Toyota aren't unionized and they do pretty well [19:28] yup [19:28] nissan is another [19:28] NyteOwl: That's due to Toyota's management, not the union. [19:28] Reading it now. [19:28] NyteOwl: It has nothing to do with whether or not the workers themselves are unionized. Toyota believes wholeheartedly in taking care of their workers [19:28] eviljames: yes but if the management was screwy they'de unionize [19:28] yes [19:28] whereas GM believes in screwing everyone, which is why the UAW is neccessary. [19:28] Michelin here is the same way [19:29] and Imerial esso iirc [19:29] treat employees right they don't *need* to unionize [19:29] Any business worht its salt takes care of its employees. If the workers so much as whisper the need to unionize that is a failure of management. [19:29] is those big union saleries and CEOs multi-million dollar bonuses every year is why it cost as much as a house to buy a new car or truck from the big 3 [19:30] i had a 1968 chevelle el camino and the title said it sold for 2.700.00 brand new [19:30] eviljames: insightful. i've never looked at it; therefore have never looked at it that way [19:30] Pig_Pen: planned obsolescence is an engineering term: US cars last about 10 years; japanese cars about 15 [19:31] A friend of mine has a '68 vette that he bought brand new for $4,000. [19:31] Pig_Pen: I bought my '80 Granada brand new at it was $7900 including tax [19:31] antler: haha, I've made a lot of off-the-cuff statements here, which are you giving +1 insightful? :D [19:31] i wont buy another car from the big three, i made my mind up about that when they went to washington with their hands out [19:31] My father bought a 63 Fairlane new for $3200 [19:32] Pig_Pen: Better close your bank accounts. The big 3 collectively wanted 0.5% of what was given to the banks *BEFORE* the stimulus budget. [19:32] the default is to run everything in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ at boot, right? [19:32] Pig_Pen: only one wh didn't ask for money wqas Ford [19:32] eviljames: 'as soon as workers feel the need to unionize, management has failed' [19:32] dionysian: no [19:32] dionysian: no [19:32] /etc/rc.d/ [19:32] NyteOwl: ford is still finacial above water iirc [19:33] financially [19:33] antler: I've worked within and outside of unions, and while I'm not neccessarily an authority on the matter I think it's a fair statement. [19:33] yup [19:33] They said they don't need any money [19:33] http://imagebin.org/40281 i saved this [19:34] so *everything* in /etc/rc.d/ is run at boot? [19:34] dionysian: no; read rc.M [19:34] eviljames: but surely there have got to be other significant reasons for the existence of unions... [19:34] Pig_Pen: how can i think of my woman when uncle sam's got his hand in my pocket --johnny paycheck [19:35] anyone have experience installing slack on a vmware fusion VM? [19:35] antler: The union idea is for collective bargaining. Prior to unionization people had to bargain with the corporation individually. If all the workers get together and say "we all get a fair deal or nobody works" then the company has to at least bend to them slightly. [19:35] antler: The problem being that if the people are getting together and agreeing that nobody is getting a fair deal, then odds are they're right and the company is mistreating their workers. [19:35] at least, imho. [19:36] int203: I haven't tried, myself, but it should work no problem. [19:36] int203: Are you seeing any specific issues? [19:36] The purpose of a union is to collect dues, give them to democrats and get them elected. just my opinion. [19:36] i dont pay income taxes anymore, i work construction for cash [19:36] buy me a mac and i can try Fusion [19:36] eviljames: i completely agree with your determination. [19:36] Old_Fogie: The democrats are corporatists, just like the Republicans. Neither care much for the people. [19:36] Pig_Pen, under the table? [19:37] Action: superGear calls the IRS [19:37] yup [19:37] evil: yeah, an issue finding a drive for the root partition [19:37] Wow. It's nice to have one's own thoughts and ideas reflected so beautifully in the writings of a person who is widely regarded as one of the most intelligent persons who have ever lived and whose name is synonymous with great mental capacity. [19:37] thrice`: thanks [19:37] eviljames, don't see the union's having private meetings "ever" with a republican VP of US do you :D cough cough [19:37] Pay your taxes! [19:37] But.. but.. but... Alex Jones told me I didn't have to pay income tax anymore and it was all a Rothchild conspiracy via the FED to bring the NWO! [19:37] eviljames: kernel panic at boot [19:37] Old_Fogie: No, it's the CEOs who pay off the Republicans [19:38] speaking of the irs... is it true that americans are NOT law bound to file an income tax return? (zeitgeist 2) [19:38] nitro25 (n=IceChat7@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "If your not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space" [19:38] Income tax was never ratified. It is a conspiracy. [19:38] Old_Fogie: But both parties are funded by the same sources, don't fool yourself into thinking that a Republican gives 2 craps about your (or anyone else's) freedoms. [19:38] eviljames, oh is that it, ok, so Al Gore never worked for Apple's board and collected a check while touring the world about global warming, ahahah [19:38] antler: it is supposed to be possible to opt out but it is also apaprnetkly a TONNE of papoerwork [19:38] you have to file taxes every year or risk going to prison or smthin [19:38] i havent filed income tax for 5 years [19:38] but they will still come after like a gang of thugs if you fail to pay [19:39] i owe the IRS 25k [19:39] does debters prison still exist? [19:39] Action: superGear calls the IRS on int203 [19:39] just join the democratic party, they'll forgive you ... [19:39] no, but they can get a court judgement to garnishee your wages [19:39] yeah [19:39] antler: old rumor is that the 13th amendement to the constitution (income tax) was not approved by a majority of states votes [19:39] You know, people always bitch about the IRS, but they only *enforce* tax laws. Congress writes them. [19:39] Old_Fogie: I think we would agree, but unless I'm reading your statements wrong your bias is showing.. :D [19:39] eviljames, but remember, the person asked what the point of a Union is. by todays standards, and actions it's no collective bargaining anymore, it's to fuel the dem party [19:39] there are no income tax laws [19:39] laws that state you must pay them [19:40] the IRS decided that on their own. the IRS have no government oversight [19:40] gnubien: interesting, if not vague. [19:40] Action: NyteOwl thinks that if he bought an import brand it would possibly be VW [19:40] Buy Toyota! [19:40] antler: yep, no one's ever given the details of that rumor [19:40] Action: eviljames reluctantly agrees. Buy Toyota. [19:40] They are more American than American cars! [19:40] superGear: they don't have a model I like since they stopped making the Supra [19:41] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-202-6.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX: the ONLY three day cure!" [19:41] eviljames, oh I am biased for sure. I made my own company, I hire people. Noone gave me a business, or a hand out. I treat my people good, no need for a union here :) [19:41] get a honda or toyota, and you'll be set [19:41] gnubien: jesus .... [19:41] gnubien, antler: Check out the Disinfo.com book "Everything You Know Is Wrong" [19:41] consumer reports shows toyota is superior for reliability vs cost [19:41] Details are in there. [19:41] booting from an install ISO, the root= kernel option should point to a partition (hda1) or just the device (hda)? [19:41] int203 : it should point to the device that contains your root filesystem. chances are it would be a partition, not an entire drive [19:42] Old_Fogie: I'm just saying, don't fall for repub rhetoric, don't listen to dem pandering. It is *all* lies. [19:42] MrHales: thanks. i've wondered about this since watching zeitgeist [19:42] is there a way to get dhcpcd to get a new ip? meaning, not accept the one it's already got. [19:42] MrHales: smoke and mirrors ;) [19:42] It's not a rumor, this lawyer just went around checking the archives at every state house and there were errors on the documents. [19:42] eviljames, oh I quit the republican party this past year. I won't back them anymore. [19:42] root= points to the partition, boot= points to the device [19:42] Old_Fogie: good on you [19:42] Any change = no ratification [19:42] Old_Fogie quit cause McCain lost [19:42] eviljames, I used to be, but they think they get votes for acting like liberals [19:42] Old_Fogie: Good for you man. [19:42] .. [19:42] wait [19:42] Channel flood from eviljames -- kicking [19:42] what? [19:42] eviljames kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:43] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [19:43] MrHales : question is, how many people have been able to successfully use that argument? [19:43] aww boo-urns. [19:43] gnubien: that would be the 16th amendment [19:43] today i ran into the weirdest bug, and i dont know who to blame, debian or bash :P [19:43] Action: NyteOwl would probably go for a Mustang GT convertible though I like the looks and specs of the new Challenger [19:43] nachox: BOTH [19:43] ananke: None. [19:43] Americans suffer the lamentable fate of living in fear of their own government. [19:43] superGear, no I left before McCain got nominated for the party. [19:43] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:43] MrHales : that's what i suspected [19:43] XGizzmo_: yea, maybe the 13th amendment was creation of the FED [19:44] won't get you out of paying state income tax in any case [19:44] Old_Fogie: So does that mean you consider Bush to be "liberal" ? [19:44] MrHales : americans? that behavior is not limited to americans [19:44] eviljames, yup [19:44] nachox: when in doubt, debian :) [19:44] no 13th was freeing the slaves [19:44] Bush is liberal? [19:44] since when? [19:44] I can only speak of my own experiences, ananke. [19:44] bush wasn't a liberal. he was incompetent and a criminal. [19:44] Old_Fogie: The president who has done the most to restrict freedom in the last century is a liberal? [19:44] Bush is a dry prickly shrub badly in need of pruning [19:45] superGear, sure is, he expanded size of gov't. his medicaid reform, running overbudget, that's all liberal agenda's to me. [19:45] yeah 13th was slaves and all the states didn't agree to free them! [19:45] MrHales : i speak from my experience as a national of another country. americans are actually on the other side of the spectrum when it comes to fearing government [19:45] Old_Fogie: The one who had legal opinions drawn up to show that the 1st and 4th amendments do not apply to American citizens during a time of war? [19:45] MrHales: when people fear the govt that is tyrany; when the govt fears the people that is democracy -- thomas jefferson [19:45] bush was a republicrat, a liberal in a republican's skin :D [19:45] thrice`, i believe it's debian, yes, bash's tab completion is completely broken in debian when working as /bin/sh [19:45] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] gnubien: For examples of both see America for the former and France for the latter. [19:45] gnubien: Exactly. [19:45] wow, so much misunderstanding of politics/government here. [19:46] ananke: Trust me. We fear our government. They can make us disappear by pointing a finger and saying "terrorist". [19:46] eviljames, liberals always legislate thru the courts, that's why Bush did it. [19:46] that way [19:46] bush was a stooge, every time he talked it seemed as if he was under the supervision of a higher power (cheney? men in black?) [19:46] you can't legislate through courts [19:46] Old_Fogie: I don't think we'll ever see eye-to-eye on politics, my friend. [19:47] why is being in the middle a bad thing? [19:47] MrHales : i guess we have a different perspective. i look at it from a much wider scale, where this fear is nothing comparing to what other people feel towards their governments [19:47] dionysian: precisely, but don't tell anyone. If people knew that they couldn't bitch and moan about "activist judges legislating from the bench" [19:47] eviljames, what's roe v wade *cough* [19:47] eviljames: only conservatives do that [19:47] what's wrong with a moderate Republican/Democrat [19:47] dionysian: s/conservatives/idiots/ [19:47] Old_Fogie: roe v wade got to the supreme court because a REPUBLICAN made it legal to have an abortion [19:47] Old_Fogie: Roe V. Wade is an assertion that what happens between a doctor and a patient is confidential. If you don't support that, go to Russia. [19:47] we now return you to your regualrly scheduled #slackware form #politics [19:48] let it be known, bush wasn't a conservative, nor was mccain [19:48] hahaha [19:48] hehe [19:48] NyteOwl: Indeed! [19:48] ananke: You very likely have a much better perspective. I know what I know, and am not widely traveled. The United States has not been governed "by the people" and sure as hell not "for the people" for a very long time. [19:48] eviljames, it was a court decision ...legislate thru the courts... liberals a do. [19:48] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Old_Fogie: So you think medical matters are not private? [19:48] Government of the Corporation, by the Corporation, for the Corporation. [19:48] interesting watching tyhe conversation evolve froma few car comments to car bailouts to unions to politics heh [19:48] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [19:48] eviljames, no I think liberals cant face facts [19:48] Abortion should be legal. [19:48] NyteOwl: shit rolls downhill, as they say. [19:49] LOL [19:49] legislate through courts = interpret things differently than i would have :( [19:49] Anyways this is ##slackware not ##politics :P [19:49] MrHales : that i agree with. i've seen things go downhill for many years now, but the scary part is that most people don't recognize the signs [19:49] superGear: Indeed, I'm stopping the politics talk. [19:49] superGear: Abortion should be unnecessary. [19:49] All: Abortion is a red herring. [19:49] abortion is a non-issue [19:49] clear cut NON issue [19:49] it should be changed to a woman's and father's choice but that's my opinion [19:50] dionysian, not til' you die and meet your maker [19:50] MrHales: can we have retroactive abortions for select politicians? :p j/k :) [19:50] firebird619 (i=jeremy@173-18-59-23.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:50] sure, and bandages should be unnecessary. you just have to quit cutting yourself :) [19:50] ananke: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause." -- Queen Amidala [19:50] haha [19:50] wrapped in a cross and carrying a flag. [19:50] republicans had full control of the senate, house of representatives, and presidency. they did nothing about abortion. [19:50] or something like that ;/) [19:50] Remember it's ok to kill an Abortion Dr [19:50] it's a wedge issue, they need the wedge because their ideas lack any merit, so they have to hone in on fanatics [19:51] Abortion is still a red herring. Control is the issue - not abortion. Kinda like what dionysian said. [19:51] dionysian, yup it's the fear the libs put into the minds of their sheeple to vote dem's in. "oh my the republicans will stop a woman's choice! vote for us" hahah, and bush and cheney didn't. just lies, always lies. [19:51] or they would have tried to do something about it when they were in power [19:51] it's all about controlling democrat voters [19:51] democrats by and large don't vote because of the abortion issue [19:51] Anyway, I don't have time for this discussion, as much as I would love it :/ [19:52] Now it's free health care.. just wait.. the republicans are going to take away your free health care [19:52] hahaha [19:52] HAHAH [19:52] vote for *me* [19:52] oh [19:52] there should be a ##slackware-social channel [19:52] republicans want to starve the beast. it's a well known fact. [19:52] for offtopic stuff yo [19:52] superGear: nix_chix0r tried to start one. People felt the need to go way o/t here instead [19:53] eviljames, you live as many years as I do, you just get sick of the retoric, both sides (remember, I quit the repubs I just aint bashed them here ...yet :) [19:53] on a completely unrelated note, anybody running perc3D/i controllers? [pe2650] [19:53] my god the new Honda Civic is ugly [19:53] Seriously, join #slackware-social -- it exists now. :) [19:53] underfund government by cutting taxes while increasing spending through the military and giveaways to their wealthy friends [19:53] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-194278.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] starve the beast. break government. shrink it down so it's small enough to drown it in the bathtub. [19:54] Action: NyteOwl suggests a good read of an SciFi novel entitled Lone Star Planet. Excellent form of governmetn [19:54] dionysian, join ##slackware-social yo [19:54] anyway. RAID first and then LUKS or LUKS first and then RAID? [19:54] anyway. is there any way to get dhcpcd to request a *new* ip? ie, not accept the one that you've already got [19:55] i'd do luks on top of raid [19:55] ananke: yes I realized as soon as I finished typing the other was a non starter heh [19:57] dionysian, can't you set a static ip in inet1.conf? [19:57] pick one high up that onbody is likely to get [19:58] s/onbody/nobody [19:58] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:58] dive: i don't want a static one... i just want a new one [19:58] ah ok [19:59] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [20:01] what does CVS mean? ( If you have downloaded from CVS you will have to run the following [20:01] command to create the "./configure" script: ) [20:01] does anyone know the site that lets freelancers bid on IT projects? [20:02] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [20:02] anyone? [20:03] pupit: concurrent versioning system [20:03] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [20:03] NyteOwl: thanks ;) [20:04] yw ::::::::::::::) [20:04] juice_ (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:05] i'm reading a readme file for a Krusader.. [20:07] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [20:08] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:08] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [20:08] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [20:08] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] pupit, 'm using krusader as we speak [20:08] my room is still there edman007 [20:08] just no one goes in it [20:09] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:17] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] k back [20:18] nille__ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:19] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:20] hi nix_chix0r [20:21] nille_ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:22] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:24] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [20:24] nille__ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [20:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:24] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [20:25] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [20:25] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [20:26] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:26] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:26] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:26] hi Pig_Pen [20:26] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) joined ##slackware. [20:27] got the internet working on the laptop again it kept shutting off for some reason [20:27] i will gladly blame gentoo on that one [20:27] hello Sara [20:27] s/a/i/ ? [20:28] nix_chix0r: what you up to? [20:28] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] just cleaned the floors and scrubbing things down [20:28] sex/age/internet? [20:28] nix_chix0r: are you a mommy yet? [20:28] interesting. [20:28] 40degrees out have the windows open so it felt like a day to do spring cleaning [20:28] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:28] Pig_Pen, not yet but soon [20:29] guys, you dont happen to have an apache with indexing enabled and very few small files there, right? [20:29] probly [20:30] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [20:30] http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/nachox/ [20:30] that what you need? rofl [20:31] http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/nachox/1/ :) [20:31] thanks ash [20:31] :) your welcome [20:34] nachox: anything interesting? [20:34] Nick change: Wowbagger -> UdontKnow [20:34] playing with wget? :P [20:34] acidchild, no, python [20:34] nachox: ah fun fun [20:34] can you place a pdf or something a bit more useful there? :) at 1 i mean [20:34] sure [20:35] acidchild, i'm writing something to parse all the hrefs of a page, and download them [20:35] there. [20:36] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] JerrySabor (n=user@c-98-196-82-196.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.129.167) left irc: "Leaving" [20:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] there is a html file there too? [20:37] ewl (n=ewl@pool-141-157-166-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-434144.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:39] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [20:39] acidchild, ? [20:39] http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/nachox/1/index-file.html [20:40] acidchild, unnecessary, apache autogenerates an index when indexing is enabled [20:40] yep [20:42] the english should all die, how did you not kill james blunt or the spice girls before they ever got to sing? they do a disservice to the english language [20:45] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:45] gotta love it. I bought a DVD and there was a promo leaflet for movie related merchandise. so I go the URL and it's a domain parking search page [20:45] she_zzz (n=jazze17@adsl-2-203-194.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] idiots [20:45] hehe [20:46] copyright on bottom of leaflet = 2005 [20:47] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:48] nachox: i dunno even whats in the wave files. [20:48] What's the URL. [20:48] And the movie. 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I haven't used it since long ago [20:54] awesome [20:55] stable, secure, fast [20:55] int203 (n=adam@68.178.106.115) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [20:55] it still not have a package management (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) [20:56] i used it back in like I think version 5-7 I think I might have used version 9 for a short while which is when linux really started being so easy to use back in 5-7 it was all editing config files all the time [20:57] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:58] it still has a package manager - just not the bling-bling package manager that everyone thinks they need [20:58] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.74.73) joined ##slackware. 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[21:05] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:06] G'evenin'(or mornin' or perhaps aft'noon),ladies 'n gentlemen [21:07] Android-wdyy (n=fircuser@211.138.36.203) joined ##slackware. [21:10] suh [21:10] jiffypop (n=ace@32.178.50.200) joined ##slackware. [21:11] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.155.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:11] well, folks...i managed to get my dns situation sorted out. i'm actually here under linux for the very first time [21:12] good t'hear,jiffypop [21:12] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:12] Action: jiffypop concurs [21:13] it's been a long uphill battle but it introduced me to all kinds of things i didn't know about in the process [21:14] that's the beauty of the struggle...the learning curve I mean [21:14] lol, i hear ya. i almost fell off the damn curve [21:15] paissad (n=paissad@53.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] it's a long way down to ubuntu :-) [21:16] that far down?!? [21:16] with no safety net [21:17] OUCH..LOL [21:20] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.16.152) left irc: "Leaving" [21:20] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) left irc: "Off to see the Wizard (of my paycheck - or sleep)" [21:20] Android-wdyy (n=fircuser@211.138.36.203) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:21] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.112.98) left irc: "Leaving" [21:21] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:23] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:23] njord (n=kitche@pool-129-44-245-214.buff.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:42] hmmm, me too. i think i beat that dead horse back to life [21:42] static_oxy (n=stastic_@41.234.252.21) joined ##slackware. [21:43] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:43] jiffypop: did you resolve it with an ip-up script? [21:45] man, i'm ashamed to say it but i got it by commenting out peerdns [21:46] at least i'm fairly certain that's what it was [21:46] between moving folks all day and driving all night [21:46] my dumb ass has been connected for a few days and i didn't know it [21:47] jiffypop: basically, you can have an /etc/ppp/ip-up script that writes /etc/resolv.conf with the dns servers handed to you by the peer. [21:47] i saw where when i killed pppd it said connection terminated [21:47] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:48] I did it like this: #!/bin/sh \n cat << EOF > /etc/resolv.con \n domain rlwhome.lan \n nameserver 192.168.13.1 \n nameserver $DNS1 \n nameserver $DNS2 \n EOF [21:48] "\n" means "press enter" :) [21:49] $DNS1 and $DNS2 get substituted with the values handed out by the peer [21:52] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:53] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [21:55] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:55] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [21:55] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:55] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-52-177.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:04] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:05] sQuEE (n=narya@host42.201-253-244.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:06] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:08] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] nachox: sup? :) [22:08] got it working? [22:08] jiffypop (n=ace@32.178.50.200) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:08] yep [22:08] excellent :-) [22:08] not too hard [22:09] hi everybody [22:10] hey [22:10] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: "leaving" [22:10] nachox: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9739809334.html [22:10] reading this at the moment. [22:11] wondering what the best board to get might be [22:11] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:12] i was building mythtv and i got this error message when building, i have already installed all dependencies as mentionned in slackbuilds.org, it's just the tail of the output, i build it like this ----> fakeroot ./mythtv.Slackbuild > /dev/null [22:12] http://www.pastebin.ca/1354039 [22:12] does someone have any idea ? [22:12] jiffypop (n=ace@32.178.28.198) joined ##slackware. [22:13] sorry, man...my box took a shit [22:13] the error seems to come from this file -> pespacket.cpp [22:13] lool [22:14] i'm at some fleabag hotel in carlisle, pa and my power cord was half in the wall [22:15] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:15] 178.28.198 [22:15] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [22:16] paissad: slackbuilds.org doesn't support fakeroot usage. [22:17] hexoroid (n=hex@unaffiliated/hexoroid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:17] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:17] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [22:17] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:17] ohhh, ok , but i always did this and it always works , i did it for dozens of packages [22:17] hexoroid (n=hex@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] but i change to root :-) [22:17] thanks, [22:18] well, i have to get up in 5 hours... night guys [22:18] see ya, chox [22:19] paissad@paissad:/tgz/tmp/mythtv$ ls -l /var/log/packages/*_SBo | wc -l [22:19] 327 [22:19] i can say that i 've used fakeroot for a least 95% of packages from SBo :-) [22:19] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.16) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [22:24] sQuEE (n=narya@host42.201-253-244.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:24] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:24] paissad: congrats - you've been lucky :) [22:25] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [22:25] rworkman, no it's normal i do it just for the build, not for the install of course [22:25] su- is needed for the install :-) [22:26] so what's the point of using it for the build? [22:27] i'm used to use at least root privileges in order to avoid disappointement, never know .. that's all [22:28] bono (i=bono@118-160-175-240.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:28] paissad: packages from sbo never disappoint [22:28] actually, i trust very well SBo scripts, but i just have the habit to use fakeroot because if ever i make a bad own package, i would be very angry ! [22:29] thumbs, you're right ! [22:31] when i began with slackware, once i created a package with makepkg command, but i did it wrong, i was obliged to reinstall the system :-(, if i had had used fakeroot, i would have been warned, .... i would not have altered my /usr dir btw :-) [22:32] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:33] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:33] rworkman, i have the same error message when i run the scripts with root [22:35] kitche2 (n=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: [22:35] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] http://www.pastebin.ca/1354051 [22:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:36] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:42] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] i was reading the pespacket.cpp file from the source, and i see a line like this [22:42] return bswap_32(av_crc(av_crc04C11DB7, (uint32_t) -1, [22:42] _pesdata, Length() - 1)); [22:42] anyone know the shortcut key in kword for subscript? [22:43] pilipo (n=pilipo@124.217.35.11) joined ##slackware. [22:44] but --> av_crc04C11DB7 <-- is used just once in that file and is not listed into the headers [22:45] btw, that constant is not included in any file of the headers --> [22:45] paissad@paissad:/tmp/SBo/mythtv-0.21/libs/libmythtv$ grep -ri av_crc04C11DB7 * [22:45] mpeg/pespacket.cpp: return bswap_32(av_crc(av_crc04C11DB7, (uint32_t) -1, [22:45] sorry [22:46] i think there a problem with the source , there's a non-declared variable used just once [22:46] http://www.pastebin.ca/1354060 [22:47] I was here, but now I'm gone, I left my socks to turn you on. 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[23:12] Action: antler reminds MLanden that he still has that little house on the prairie [23:13] Action: MLanden reminds antler that other MLanden's hair too flossy to be a true pioneer [23:14] Action: antler tells MLanden to take the highway to heaven [23:14] Action: MLanden slips on AC/DC and jams out to Highway To Hell...:D [23:15] Action: antler 's rollin' thunder, power n' rain. he's comin' on like a hurricane [23:15] R.I.P Bon Scott [23:15] just rollin' thunder?!? [23:16] oh, i just did hell's bells, not highway to hell [23:16] heheh [23:18] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.169.186) left irc: "leaving" [23:18] jiffypop: yeah dirty deeds was a good album... [23:19] yea [23:19] high voltage [23:19] yea powerage [23:20] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-51.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] speakin' of AC/DC,what is y'all's opinion of Airbourne? [23:21] antler, clearly you are full of fail [23:21] hello howard, how ya doin' friend...next door neighbor. oh yea, get your fuckin jumbo jet outta my airport [23:22] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.22.216.40) left irc: "." [23:22] lol, ain't no fun [23:22] haven't heard of them, MLanden [23:23] jiffypop: they have a sound sorta like AC/DC [23:23] Action: antler 's got his bell he's gonna take edman007 to hell [23:24] antler, i don't want to go home! [23:24] AC/DC rules [23:24] i'm staying at your place [23:24] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] edman007: at neverland? [23:24] lol [23:24] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) joined ##slackware. [23:24] What's a good cd player for slackware on a machine without KDE, and a keyboard without a number pad? [23:25] Action: edman007 sets boobie traps in antler's house [23:25] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-136-47.ip39.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] pi31415, mplayer? [23:25] mplayer is good for all! [23:25] now, i got a shitload of work to do today :( [23:25] Action: antler scares edman007 with the elephant man's bones [23:26] antler, don't treat your grandmother like that! she should stay in her grave! [23:26] the elephant mans face was enough to scare the crap out of me [23:26] sorta like 'em? as long as it's sorta. we don't need any pretenders to the throne [23:27] my grandmother was actually whistler's mother [23:27] mplayer introduces many pauses into the music [23:27] she is still the elephant man [23:28] edman007: that would be scandalous [23:28] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-94-184.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:29] jiffypop: that's a hard call;some say pretenders,some say in style [23:30] i hear ya, dude. and i agree to a point. but we are talking AC/DC after all [23:30] true [23:30] but i won't slag on 'em havig not heard them yet [23:30] i guess most slackers just get a KDE-worthy box or compile their own cd player [23:31] lord knows i've tried to emulate malcom once or 100 times over the years :-/ [23:33] i hear ya,jiffypop [23:33] jiffypop: Get Back in Black......classic AC/DC [23:33] lmao [23:33] sorry [23:34] blasphemer [23:34] heh [23:34] y'all might know slack but ya can't tell me a thing about *classic* ;-) [23:35] classic what? rock? [23:35] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [23:35] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:36] hitest, ya remember bon scott? he was their roadie and then their drummer and then -> their singer [23:36] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:36] then brian stepped up to the plate and did a bang up job if i say so myself [23:37] http://www.ta-sa.org/projects/cdplay.html [23:37] this hits the spot [23:37] but classic AC/DC? it definitely goes back before BIB [23:38] yeah, i'd say anything before and including deeds [23:38] raelakoira (n=raela@206.21.74.73) joined ##slackware. [23:38] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] T.N.T. :D [23:39] but having said that? mad props to brian johnson [23:39] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.74.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:39] MLanden: that's like saying "who made who" hahaha [23:39] dhabyx_ (n=dhabyx@1.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [23:40] defiinity,antler [23:40] lol, when my son was 7, he was riding out the sunset on his colored tv screen [23:40] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) joined ##slackware. [23:45] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [23:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:48] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:49] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:49] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:49] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:51] WB Old_Fogie [23:52] die hard buddy of mine's got acdc on the reel-to-reel. pretty sweet stuff. he's quite proud of it. [23:53] interviews,antler? [23:53] MLanden: no, just songs from when he was heavy in the party scene [23:53] cool [23:54] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:54] he [23:54] 's the kind of guy who'll make a v with his index and pinky when he hears classic stuff hahah [23:55] and nod madly [23:55] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:55] ahh.....Dio's devil horns....:D [23:55] :D [23:56] one super relaxed, extremely cool friend :D haven't seen him in ages.... [23:58] MLanden: \m/ METAL!!!!!!! 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