[00:00] fdisk -l doesn't list it [00:00] kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [00:00] kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [00:00] vnstat ftw! [00:01] i didn't see anything about a device association [00:01] Action: BP{k} uses vnstat with a custom written frontend in bash [00:01] darmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:03] BP{k}: yeah it's a great app. I just noticed you maintain it also. :) [00:05] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] chopp: aye :) [00:08] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:09] chopp: oh, i think i've used that before; i'll check it out again [00:10] chopp: I had to write a little custom front end for it as my ISP is retarded by measuring between 09:00AM-09:00AM [00:10] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:12] vnstat is outdated [00:12] BP{k}: ahh yes, I can see that being a problem. Depend on the freakin isp's. :P [00:13] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [00:13] sahko: umm so build a new one? [00:13] BP{k}: you maintain the SB for vnstat? [00:14] Zozma (n=Winter@98.125.123.118) joined ##slackware. [00:14] amazon10x: yes. just saw there was a 1.7 update out :) [00:14] yeah, i was just about to tell you that :) [00:14] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:15] BP{k}: sorry, didn't mean to bring the heat down on ya. ;) [00:15] BOFH__ (n=berserk@87.6.86.202) joined ##slackware. [00:15] chopp: yes you did! ;) [00:15] but update it for god sakes. [00:15] hehe .. patience young padewan :P [00:15] hey any grammar peeps in tha house atm? [00:16] i might be antler [00:16] what's up [00:16] amazon10x: "Auntie May, whom I invited." or "Auntie May, who I invited." and why? [00:17] if you've seen anything I type in this channel, you surely won't ask me. [00:17] chopp: hahah [00:17] :) [00:17] is she bringing beer? [00:17] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:18] antler: the first [00:18] amazon10x: i think it's the former, intuitively because the correct answer to the question "who did you invite?" is surely "i invited HER" [00:18] that's correct antler. it's the same thing i just did in my head :) [00:19] amazon10x: but i was looking for a more standard response, e.g., the first because aunt may is the object of such-and-such [00:19] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] or whatever [00:20] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:20] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] actually, that might be it: aunt may is the object of the verb phrase [00:21] it's something to do with objects of the sentence i believe [00:21] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:21] hellfires, wesnoth is becoming rather bloated at 215MB for the soruce [00:21] i'm quite good at writing grammatically correct sentences but i can never remember all of the rules [00:21] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] man english is like riding a bike: it's hard to describe how to do it, but a cinch for native speakers to just know and apply the right rules [00:21] amazon10x: yeah [00:22] amazon10x: thanks :) [00:22] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:22] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:22] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: "Why be difficult when, with a bit of effort, you could be impossible?" [00:23] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] BOFH__ (n=berserk@87.6.86.202) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:23] has anyone tried to cross-compile a kernel and modules? [00:25] chopp: beer and ben gay for the shoulders. interested? [00:25] :P [00:26] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] hmm, my system beep stopped working in some apps again...anyone know why? it happened to me before and i think it was something to do with alsa..xchat beeps, but not pidgin or terminal [00:27] it's a blessing that your system beep stopped working [00:27] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:27] when I'm done with her, my shoulders will need something, but I'll pass on the stinky stuff with the gay name. :P [00:28] haha [00:28] antler, nooo [00:28] i'm dieing! [00:28] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:28] rjamison (n=rjamison@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [00:28] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@66.33.206.8) joined ##slackware. [00:29] Action: antler places a penny over each of edman007 's eyes [00:29] beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep [00:29] noo...xchat beeps...but pidin does not...it makes me die [00:30] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:30] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-168-133.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [00:31] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-168-133.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:31] slacknode (i=0@c-71-196-210-60.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] I had my irssi notify me with the sound of my bike firing up for awhile. Scared the shit outta me a couple times. [00:31] hahaha [00:32] hahah [00:33] pcspkr is loaded? [00:34] chazbro (n=cbroam@71.153.134.105) joined ##slackware. [00:35] hey there :) [00:35] http://chopp.homelinux.com/pub/harley.wav [00:36] chopp: i saw a newere harley on the road the other day. oh man. the back tire was as fat as a car tire. probably one of the nicest harley's i've seen lately [00:36] harleys [00:37] the license plate wasn't on the back, but on the side and you could fold it in. any idea what model i'm talking about? [00:37] antler: yeah I imagine you'll see quite a few nice bike's in cowtown. I know a few builders there myself. [00:37] oh perhaps it was built [00:37] didn't think of that. it just looked stock [00:38] chopp: signal lights were in front of the handle bar grips [00:38] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.111.69) left irc: "leaving" [00:38] Action: chazbro has finally figured out why other people think that Linux 'elitist' dont help other people [00:38] antler: custom for sure. Anything that will handle a tire like that needs a custom frame. [00:38] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.247.120) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:39] i am not here to get a problem solved [00:39] chopp: yeah. it was quite a sight [00:39] chazbro: what exactly have you asked?! [00:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-247-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] no no.. others have asked me for help [00:39] antler, like i said, xchat beeps [00:40] and then they complain when they dont get the answer they like to hear [00:40] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:41] if the end result is problem solved, how can they bitch? [00:41] almost makes me not want to help otherswell it wasnt about linux [00:42] almost makes me not want to help others ...well it wasnt about linux* [00:42] tricqster (n=knao@adsl-dyn-25.95-102-28.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [00:42] this guy in another irc channel wanted to know if there was a channel for his "Dark Shadows" [00:43] not just any channel... the type of channel that does fileserving [00:43] wat? [00:44] Action: chopp wanders off.. [00:44] he wanted a channel where he could go download shows [00:46] wasn't 'dark shadows' an old series about a vampire? [00:47] i have no clue what it was about [00:47] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:47] obviously this guy was search handicapped [00:47] oh it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Shadows [00:47] so i thought i would help [00:48] i remember watching that [00:48] big mistake [00:49] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [00:53] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [00:53] whats the correct way to mount a "storage" folder so multiple users can access it, via a common group and group ownership? [00:53] not worried about specific users, just want any valid ones on my system to have access [00:54] unnotused (n=unnu@72-173-20-49.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:56] chazbro (n=cbroam@71.153.134.105) left irc: "leaving" [00:58] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:59] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:00] superGear (i=supergea@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: [01:01] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Floops (n=baihu@irus.balgus.info) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:02] Floops (n=baihu@irus.balgus.info) joined ##slackware. [01:02] umislack (i=1000@58.64.93.234) joined ##slackware. [01:02] man, I don't like my room [01:02] it feels so uncomfortable [01:02] and I don't even know why [01:03] it really bugs me...is it the layout? -_- [01:03] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [01:03] It's because it smells like balls. [01:04] change your sheets and vacuum [01:04] and get the popcorn out of your computer [01:05] that's nasty [01:05] jmoncayo (n=steven@190.152.12.162) joined ##slackware. [01:05] hey guys i have amd64 how should i use teamspeak? [01:05] What? [01:09] i want to use teamspeak [01:09] but for amd64 i heard i have to use ia32 libs [01:09] but i cant seem to make it work [01:12] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-219-85.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] slackware is 32bit [01:13] use slackware [01:14] oops slamd64 [01:14] =] [01:14] jmoncayo (n=steven@190.152.12.162) left ##slackware. [01:16] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[01:38] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.69.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [01:40] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:41] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:41] Camarade_Tux: oh you're out of bed finally :P [01:42] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:44] antler, and guess what ? absolutely late :) [01:47] cmk_zzz (n=martink@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:49] Zozma (n=Winter@98.125.123.118) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:51] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-153-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:51] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [01:51] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:55] aaaahhhh, late ! [01:57] slackmag1c (n=magician@pool-173-57-58-121.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Camarade_Tux: late? it's morning dude :p [02:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat079.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [02:06] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:06] hah, i opened an xfce app and my gtk theme changed...how do i put it back? [02:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-247-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [02:07] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:10] Action: edman007 gets really pissed [02:12] that's right, edman007, solve your problems with drink :P [02:12] cmk_zzz (n=martink@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:12] antler, i would...but this is a dry campus, and thus i don't have any nearby.. [02:13] but now my fonts are tiny and the terminal still does not work... [02:13] i give up, i'll reboot... [02:13] watch how fast i can reboot, lol [02:13] umislack (i=1000@58.64.93.234) left irc: "Leaving" [02:14] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:14] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.140) left irc: "Saliendo" [02:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:17] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [02:18] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.69.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:18] esom (n=enigma@222.172.214.227) joined ##slackware. [02:18] cmk_zzz (n=martink@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [02:19] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:19] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. 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[02:36] xiws (n=xiws13@218.89.5.206) left irc: Client Quit [02:36] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-157-225.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:36] Nick change: slackmag1c -> slackmagic [02:37] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: [02:38] supergear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:38] supergear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:39] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [02:39] alright, how long did that that? [02:39] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:39] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:39] 25 minutes for a reboot? fsck always picks bad times :( [02:40] edman007: do you have windows vista, or what? [02:41] stybla, well its a server board, so it takes forever to to POST, and then it boots, it has a bazillion drivers, and then it decides its a good time to fsck $HOME, which is about 500GB [02:41] :D [02:42] oppps [02:42] edman007: oh, i see [02:42] supergear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:42] :p [02:42] yea...fsck always seems to pick the really bad times to run [02:43] why can't it just run after power outages and such when i'm away and sleeping, instead of when i do an emergency reboot because shit don't work [02:43] it'd be too simple, you know. [02:44] ...it'd be boring [02:44] You can cancel it. [02:45] Motoko-chan, ctl-c works? [02:45] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [02:45] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [02:47] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] I think it does if you do it in time [02:49] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:50] esom (n=enigma@222.172.214.35) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:50] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:51] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [02:51] now, everything works! [02:51] is 52 degrees a temp to woryy about? [02:52] worry* [02:52] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89C54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:52] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:52] it says critical is 73 [02:52] tyfon: 52 F? no ;) [02:52] 52 degrees [02:53] of potatoe? [02:53] ttyX, laptop or desktop? [02:53] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:53] morning [02:53] lappy [02:53] slackytude: hallo. [02:53] ttyX, laptop 52 is cold [02:53] esom_ (n=enigma@222.172.214.218) left irc: "leaving" [02:53] morning stybla [02:53] i cleaned the heatsink also [02:53] ttyX, well laptops are rated for 100'C [02:53] it was the size of a viper's compressor [02:54] it has three fans :p [02:54] Action: edman007 notes his laptop routinely hits 85'C [02:54] and ow i've removed the keyboard also [02:54] ...i don't think the fans are working right.... [02:54] for better air flow lol [02:55] edman007: at least you don't have to worry about radiator during the winter ;) [02:55] ttyX, most laptops are designed to operate around 60'C, and the fans won't even kick in until the CPU hits 65-70 [02:55] edman007: who knows mine is an acient piece [02:55] stybla, nah, the laptop does not put out enough, its only good for cooking [02:55] :] [02:56] my desktop is a radiator though, dual-quad CPUs...large vid card, lots of drives... [02:56] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [02:56] my lappys heatsink has four heatpipes [02:56] the reason p4 proccy [02:57] good enough to cook bacon [02:57] my laptop is designed with survival in mind, its perfect for cooking! [02:57] lol [02:57] i have a first gen MBP [02:57] flash is making firefox use all the cpu and my fan run constantly. When i pause the flash window the cpu fan stops [02:57] edman007: you said quad proc's ... what do you have Q6600? [02:58] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [02:58] its the laptop that people recorded the external case hitting 155'F [02:58] I can fry eggs on mine while compiling :p [02:58] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:58] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:58] tecky, a pair of e5410 [02:58] SysInfo: Linux 2.6.29 | Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5410 @ 2.33GHz MHz (8 cores) | Mem: 614/8166M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 999G Free: 259G | Screen Res: 1680x1050 | Procs: 265 | Up: 02:57:44 up 43 min, 3 users, load average: 0.18, 0.11, 0.21 [02:58] chazbro (n=cbroam@adsl-71-153-134-105.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:58] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:58] as a workstation? [02:58] yup :) [02:58] wtf, why for ? [02:59] edman007.com/8way <- :) [02:59] and why not? [02:59] credo (n=36chambe@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:59] :) someone talking about making a server with workstations for slackware? :) [03:00] edman007: my lappy earlier would shut itself down during heavy compilation [03:00] edman007: i'd tell you why no, but you wouldn't like it ;) [03:00] acpi triggered shwutdown [03:00] stybla, lol [03:00] dear lord, thats alot of memory slots [03:00] holy craps [03:00] i want to make a home server with slackware :) [03:00] 4x4 slots? are you serious? [03:00] ttyX, my mac just gets video corruption when it gets hot, and that will just draw lines on my windows until i stop making it hot [03:01] never really liked apple stuff :p [03:01] tecky, :) i got it because it does DDR2-800 [03:01] he needs a big e-penis [03:01] the other boards wouldn't do it [03:01] edman007: how much did that rig cost you ? [03:01] it's the same reason people buy Hummers [03:01] $3k [03:02] edman007: i do love the case, /sigh [03:02] Action: edman007 slaps superGear [03:02] anybody hear anything or do anything with slackware for ARM platforms? [03:02] superGear, anyways, its not that bad, its a good deal for the price, fast, and i'm damn sure i will keep this computer for a LOT longer than the average person [03:03] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:03] superGear: something like that, yes ;) [03:03] chazbro, slackware does not run on ARM...you could recompile it and try, but then its not slack ;) [03:03] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:04] i found a website once apon a time that said it did [03:04] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:04] Action: chazbro goes to hunt down that website [03:04] i'll bbl ... going to sleeps or something stupid like that [03:04] *Sigh* [03:04] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:05] http://www.armedslack.org <== there... i found it [03:05] chazbro: you will have to recompile everything for arm. [03:05] ...unless somebody already did :) [03:06] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [03:06] i was thinking of doing a qemu kind of thing with it [03:07] and testing to see if maybe i can transform my ARM Sony Ericsson Walkman phone... [03:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.140) joined ##slackware. [03:07] need to maybe add a whopping 4GB memory card [03:08] 4gb isnt whopping by any strech [03:08] but i wonder if it has the capabilities to do it or not [03:08] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [03:08] it is for my cell phone [03:08] hola [03:08] hola [03:09] I wonder if they'll port slack to n97 :p [03:10] go ahead and port it [03:10] oh btw what about palm's webos?will they allow other companies to use it? [03:10] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:10] they say it has linux kernel [03:10] Action: chazbro sees a world with Slackware running on everything xD [03:11] chazbro that requires shitload of devs [03:11] and a world full of intelligent people smart enough to use it [03:11] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] i know its a fantasy [03:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:12] yeah a worldwithout macs & windows :p [03:12] nothing wrong with OS X and Windows [03:12] OS X and windows have their place. [03:12] Action: chazbro smacks superGear [03:12] Don't hate on MS for bring PCs to the mass market [03:13] one big thing wrong with OS X and Windows, they are not open source! [03:13] windows never will be and apple cant afford it [03:14] Parts of OS X is OSS [03:14] well under BSD license [03:14] nope its bsd [03:14] not gpl [03:14] i forget OSS only equals GPL [03:15] yep [03:15] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:15] bsd allows u to steal :p [03:15] BSDL is more free as in freedom [03:15] no restrictions :P [03:15] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:16] well im a open source lover... and thats how i am going to stay [03:16] but i don't want to get into a GPL vs any other license war thingie [03:16] if you guys imagine a world anyway, could you imagine some hot chicks my way, too? [03:16] lol [03:16] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL [03:17] slackytude: lmao [03:17] Miss Slackware [03:17] miss slackware annual contest? [03:17] ooh yeah great idea [03:17] kthx bye [03:18] now we'd need more females in ##slackware besides the 1 or 2 [03:18] what for? [03:18] for you of course [03:19] why ...the nerd girls are good enough for me :D [03:19] I was rather thinking of a mere physical presence but I appreciate the thought [03:19] no need.. there would a waging war around here..you know ..rooster fights ;p [03:19] eh [03:19] well you could GO OUT and meet one, slackytude ;P [03:20] LOL superGear [03:20] what do you mean, "GO OUT" [03:20] leave the house [03:20] lmao [03:20] Action: chazbro falls over laughing [03:20] not that i can say much [03:21] yeap, the good old ways [03:21] doesnt that mean leaving the basement?? [03:21] tho http://roms-isos.com/lz.jpg is enough for me [03:22] sweet pic [03:22] little bongo playin' hippie chick [03:22] leaving the house O_o [03:22] 4'9" too : [03:22] forget leaving the house... you got to leave the basement first [03:22] hippie chicks are very nice :D [03:22] I'm like 6'1" [03:22] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:23] aperturefever, agreed [03:23] Action: chazbro really digs hippie chics [03:23] as long as they know the idea of soap [03:23] as long they know how to eat... i dont mind [03:24] are you sure? [03:24] i think they all know how to eat [03:24] or they would die [03:24] you could have fooled me... all those stick girls out there [03:25] Blame the media [03:25] and video games [03:25] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:25] Blame the Wii ! [03:26] like they get their food from the sun or something [03:26] Blame Canada [03:27] Action: chazbro is sooo happy his wife has some really nice curves [03:27] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:28] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:28] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:29] but yeah... a nerd girl/hippie chic contest for Miss Slackware... sounds nice [03:29] pics or it didnt happen [03:29] oh wait, it didnt [03:29] cuz to win wouldnt just be the swimsuit competition [03:29] hahaha :D [03:29] slackytude: ... :D [03:29] y0 slackytude. How's it going? [03:30] greetings firebird619, Im doing fine, slight hangover, oversplept and oversexed and underfucked. How are you today? [03:31] oversexed and underfucked?!?!? how is that possible? [03:31] slackytude: :P, I'm doing great, thanks. [03:31] mib_im0q9l (i=5961e88a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2f538fbf9a0fa00e) joined ##slackware. [03:31] antiwire: your nick makes me think you might be interested in the fact that ath5k/AP is all good to go in both wireless-testing, and compat-wireless as of today. [03:31] they fixed it? [03:31] ewww yuck wireless :P [03:32] oversexed and underfucked == wacking off and not getting laid [03:32] antiwire: seems so [03:32] omg superGear [03:32] superGear: lol [03:33] do you speak from experience? [03:33] no, it's the only thing i can think of when he said oversexed and underfucked [03:33] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-testing.git;a=commit;h=9d6a43896481ba28907cb643e27a56a3999f10d9 [03:33] glorious [03:34] and the best one of all http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-testing.git;a=commit;h=2b62ec90fea9489961016cb9d8823232183ddde7 [03:34] antiwire: figured you might like that. hey was it a 2413? [03:34] <=== anti-wireless [03:34] why? [03:34] wireless is the future! [03:34] chazbro: you should change your nick so we can be arch enemies YARR [03:34] or smthin [03:34] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-219-85.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:35] Nick change: superGear -> prowire [03:35] lol [03:35] i like my security... and i love my connection [03:35] my wireless is secured [03:35] as is mine [03:35] i take a multilayer approach [03:35] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:35] ...yet it won't top 1Gbit ;) [03:35] from flying jeezypoppers [03:36] stybla: well that type of bandwidth is what the gigabit lines are for [03:36] I wish i could d/l at 1 Gb/s [03:36] or whatever [03:37] eross (n=rem@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:37] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:37] chopp: i wonder when that will hit the kernel git [03:37] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:37] i always see these wireless goofs constantly dropping off the channels.. and then rejoining [03:37] cuz the connection dropped ...AGAIN [03:37] why when I do ldd -filename to a c++ project I compiled on ubuntu, tells me it's not a valid executable. I also did chmod +x to the binary file [03:37] mine never just drops off [03:37] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425785.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:38] it's actually extremely stable [03:38] always having to use the silly ghost command [03:38] antiwire: irssi in screen at some server connected via cable of unidentified type? :p [03:39] you guys are smoking crack [03:39] this isn't 1998 [03:39] heh... 1998 was a great year [03:39] damn! [03:39] what the year is?! [03:39] dont knock 1998 [03:39] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host235-215-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:40] antiwire: it's in the linville tree [03:40] but i'm scared of his tree [03:40] i'll apply compat to 2.6.29.2 [03:41] antiwire: good choice [03:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428916.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:42] eross this is Slackware support channel [03:42] ummm couldnt tell you anything about ubuntu sorry [03:42] multimas (n=multimas@c80-216-207-92.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "leaving" [03:42] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:43] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:43] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:43] summer of '98 [03:44] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:45] eross: if you're attempting to use a binary program that built for ubuntu.. in Slackware... there is your problem [03:45] keoni (i=1000@208-106-15-140.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:45] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:45] you need to build (recompile) it for Slackware [03:45] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [03:46] slackytude: Windows 7 RC is ready for download already. 45 minutes download right now. [03:47] windblows 7 can go to he-double hockey sticks [03:47] haha [03:47] firebird619, we already got it [03:47] not installed yet but downloaded it is [03:47] slackytude: nice. I'll probably download tomorrow. I'll be going to bed soon. [03:48] ok so i can't compile statically once and distribute [03:48] that should work [03:48] wonder how openarena does it [03:48] firebird619, Im looking forward to testing it [03:48] some binaries work that way [03:49] first in a VM but we will put it to the metal soon [03:49] slackytude: same here. [03:49] staticlly compilling should work [03:49] looking forward to testing. [03:49] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] omg i'm an idiot - the compiler i used was 64bit [03:50] someone kick me [03:51] slackytude: It'll expire June 1, 2010, but starting march 1, 2010, it will start shutting down every two hours, thus rendering it not very useable. [03:51] Action: chazbro kicks eross [03:51] i discovered something wonderful about vi - it pulls up binary beautifully in a hex editor [03:51] Action: firebird619 kicks eross harder than chazbro. :P [03:51] lol.... why even bother with the stupid OS then [03:52] in process of migrating, slackware is now my gaming and other is server [03:52] a little backwards [03:52] ummm yeah [03:52] windows 7 is a wasting of time [03:53] Action: chazbro kicks eross again for being back asswards [03:53] I thought it was bass ackwards. :P [03:53] lol [03:53] bass ackwards* [03:53] :D [03:53] Action: chazbro kicks himself [03:54] Action: ttyX pokes chazbro [03:54] yes...? ttyX? [03:54] chazbro: I also seen a bumber stick once that said nuckin futs. You figure out that play on words. I don't like to swear. :P [03:55] I was just having my share of fun :p [03:55] yeah.. i read those all the time here in Okie land [03:55] have you seen tuck fexas [03:55] haha, no/ [03:56] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:56] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:56] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [03:57] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:58] slackware for gaiming [03:58] what games? [03:58] nuckin futs! [03:59] haha [03:59] believe it or not Linux does some games [03:59] nethack [03:59] Warsow [03:59] openarena [03:59] Cube [04:00] x-plane, savage 2 :) [04:00] then there is all the semi-copycat games [04:00] fatio (n=a@e179146023.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [04:00] dammit.. that linux civ4 petition i signed did no good [04:00] Well, time for me to go. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. Take care. [04:00] haba haba firebird619 [04:00] later firebird [04:01] later chazbro [04:01] what games? [04:01] ufo:ai :P [04:01] nite firebird [04:01] see ya aperturefever [04:01] night eross [04:01] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) left irc: "FUCK MY ROUTER!" [04:02] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night."). [04:02] Action: chazbro is leaving too... wife needs me xD [04:02] later all [04:03] bb [04:03] chazbro (n=cbroam@adsl-71-153-134-105.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [04:05] Richlv, I know that one. [04:05] it was pretty beta last time I tried [04:09] simplesso (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: "maintenance." 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[04:37] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:41] aperturefever, civ4 petition? [04:43] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:43] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:45] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [04:46] damit [04:46] just realized thunar has no file modification time coloumn [04:50] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-168-133.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [04:53] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:57] slackytude: yes mate. There was a pool in civfanatics.com about a linux civ4 port and since almost everybody voted 'yes' they made an e-petition to Firaxis games [04:57] eh [04:57] how many votes? 10? [04:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [05:00] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:01] slackytude: i'd say civilisation game is very popular. [05:01] probably, but considering linux has a market share of roughly 1%, who cares? [05:01] yeah there werent many votes :( [05:01] sad but true [05:01] heh :) [05:02] slackytude: i *do* care. [05:02] prowire (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Connection timed out [05:02] thats nice [05:02] me 2 :D [05:02] ain't that enough? :) [05:02] so you wll make a linux port then? [05:02] loki tried that as well [05:02] are you going to pay me? [05:02] no? well, sorry :\ [05:02] for civ 2 and it was success i guess [05:03] slackytude: and please, don't take it wrong way. [05:04] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) joined ##slackware. [05:04] aperturefever, uh, define success. loki is a longtime out of business now, mainly because it wasnt a success. at least not money wise [05:05] stybla, nah ^-^ [05:06] zxh (n=red@218.26.164.24) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:07] slackytude: i think that loki went down for the game choices that were ported.. as of today civ2 port is on of the succesful loki ports. If they ported blockbusters and such, they might still be in business [05:07] Action: misspwn twitch [05:08] Nick change: misspwn -> nix_chix0r [05:08] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [05:08] there is also heroes of might and magic 3 port - appreciated. [05:08] ...I jst intsalled a python package [05:08] jinja2 [05:08] any reason why I can't improt it? [05:10] stybla: *sweet* [05:10] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-129-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:11] redtricycle1: uhhh... #python? 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[05:29] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:31] evening [05:32] guys, do you know how to reset the mac-address of the interface?:) [05:32] there was a need to set it manually, i've done it through the line in /etc/rc.d/rc.local (smth like ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55 && ifconfig eth0 up) [05:32] or at /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf, don't remember [05:32] Channel flood from Lexus1 -- kicking [05:32] then i deleted that rules, but the 'ifconfig' shows that the mac is still the same as it was after manual setting [05:32] Lexus: even after reboot [05:32] Lexus1 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [05:32] Lexus1 (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [05:33] eh, win7 refuses to install in vm [05:34] win7 is vista reloaded u shud've known [05:35] credo (n=36chambe@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [05:36] it wants a cd-rom driver [05:36] guys, anybody knows how to 'reset' mac-address to its default value? [05:37] reset a mac address? [05:37] reboot? [05:37] yes:) [05:37] didn't help [05:37] Lexus1: u are using macspoofer? [05:37] eh, what did you do? [05:37] one time i had to set it manually. through an option in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf or /etc/rc.d/rc.local [05:38] Lexus1: try a tiny software called "macchanger" [05:38] booze please [05:38] then i deleted that line, but even after reboot the 'ifconfig' command shows the old mac [05:38] not default [05:38] likevinyl: neither macspoofer no macchanger =) [05:39] i've used only command line and command/options in rc.inet1.conf and rc.local [05:39] ok, thank anyway, i'll try [05:39] :) [05:39] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:39] just it seems strange [05:39] if don't works... try openbsd xD [05:39] i don't have any problems. it's just interesting why the mac didn't change [05:40] %) [05:40] i have a desire to learn it:) [05:40] but may be not enough time or something like it %) [05:40] like that* [05:41] on this world... *all* are "learn desire" [05:41] aperturefever: it's is. when i have some money, i will have to buy original version. [05:41] aperturefever: i mean boxed linux version ... just to show support. [05:42] likevinyl: do you use OpenBSD ? [05:42] Lexus1: power down, wait a minute, power up, boot from a live cd, ifconfig -a, write down the mac-address, use it later [05:42] and many other os... [05:42] :) [05:44] included os2/warp xD [05:44] novell 2.11? hehehe [05:44] I used to get this error in linux back in the olden days [05:45] when you booted from cd-rom and it asked you to select source drive for packages and couldnt find the cd-rom drive [05:45] now I have this error in win7 RC in VMWare [05:45] thats called progress [05:45] slackytude: check the hash mdsum... [05:45] likevinyl, eh, cute idea [05:45] or... that iso/drive [05:46] slackytude: win7 rc is based on linux, or - huh? [05:47] slackytude: before install slackware on entire disk and try install wintendo7 using "vmware" or quemu... or virtualbox [05:47] xD [05:48] stybla, I doubt it ^-^ [05:48] slackytude: let's hope not :p [05:48] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:48] hahaha [05:49] sQuEE: getup! [05:50] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@203.122.19.227) joined ##slackware. [05:50] stybla: win7 is a mac port [05:50] tea time! [05:50] :p [05:50] likevinyl, you know where there are win7 hashes? [05:51] to PC [05:51] ttyX: a mac port? [05:51] with gui suff stolen from kde [05:51] slackytude: i don't know... no viruses found :) [05:51] stuff* [05:51] ttyX: mac is a BSD ;) [05:51] tyfon: so you say it's mac os x + kde gui ? [05:52] nope mac is bsd gone wrong :p [05:52] jjj, touche! [05:52] lol a chimera [05:53] whoa 4770 for $90 [05:53] time to buy a new card :D [05:53] video? [05:54] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:54] yeah [05:54] hey can you buy me a lenovo netbook that im drooling on ? :D [05:54] got a nv5500 with 256... [05:54] cheap [05:55] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [05:55] aperturefever: me wants a thinkpad too [05:56] ttyX: X series are cool :) [05:57] r series too [05:57] they're all good [05:58] I had to take care of an annoying 5 year old thinkpad [05:58] heatsink died [05:58] X200 kicks buttocks :/ but i dont need one right now *have to minimize all needs* [06:00] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:00] ttyX: [06:00] that white shit is older... [06:00] http://www.flickr.com/photos/likevinyl2/3487530957/ [06:01] :) [06:01] see over the cutting plotter [06:02] gpu die :( [06:03] man, I cant seem to verify the MD5sum [06:03] or SHA1 [06:03] likevinyl: my lappy hs fdd [06:03] :p [06:03] usb fdd ftw [06:03] hard to find disks these days though [06:04] I've to mount a fan on this [06:04] ttyX: send me that shit! i love older hardware xD [06:04] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.9) joined ##slackware. [06:05] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:05] likevinyl I cn mail u the P133 I've got with 100mb hdd [06:05] sad fella died [06:05] <_RadioHead> hi [06:05] cmk_zzz (n=martink@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [06:05] sup _RadioHead [06:06] Lexus1 (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [06:06] <_RadioHead> yo ttyX , nada man just arrived @office [06:06] other times ttyX : http://www.flickr.com/photos/8026485@N06/2519558307/ [06:06] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@203.122.19.227) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:06] <_RadioHead> ttyX: very boring here [06:07] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:08] office is boring most of the times [06:08] i work from my home... [06:08] freelance :) [06:08] <_RadioHead> ttyX: true. [06:08] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:08] smoke some grass, beer... and enjoy office work! [06:08] xD [06:09] freelance, freebase, whatever [06:09] (without cameras) [06:09] xD [06:10] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [06:12] well, going to try new openbsd 4.5 [06:12] Lexus1 (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [06:12] Lexus1: ? [06:12] works? [06:13] M? [06:13] i tried but not with live-cd [06:13] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@203.122.19.227) joined ##slackware. [06:13] i'll try live cd a little bit later [06:14] now i've disable the lan card at my motherboard, rebooted and then enabled again [06:14] no changes %) [06:14] ok, if u got some xploit(ms) [06:14] try other tool called MacMacupdate, shows\ a "reset eth0" function [06:15] thanks, i will:) [06:15] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:16] Lexus1: sorry... [06:16] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:16] http://www.gorlani.com/publicprj/macmakeup/macmakeup.asp [06:16] Lexus1: have you tried deleting the appropriate /etc/udev rules and reboot? [06:16] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@203.122.19.227) left irc: Client Quit [06:17] yes i tried [06:17] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@203.122.19.227) joined ##slackware. [06:18] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [06:18] what is interesting - the rules for the network interface were not created after deleting and rebooting %) [06:18] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:18] greetings, [06:18] hi [06:19] greetings [06:19] hows it going today? [06:19] Lexus1: rare problem... [06:19] Lexus1: it seems that Voodoo Lady is looking at you ^^ [06:21] sQuEE: despertate mamarracho [06:21] _ [06:21] yup =) [06:21] but all works fine :) [06:22] likevinyl: in 4.5, try this: aucat -l ; mplayer movie.avi (in another xterm:) mplayer ambient.mp3 [06:22] "egg" ? xD [06:23] automatic audio mixing for idiots [06:23] try this on fbsd 7.1... update kernel to 7.2rc [06:23] and boot:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [06:23] _ [06:24] fatio: classic heavy metal don't needs mixers. [06:24] ;) [06:25] heavy metal! [06:26] <_RadioHead> slackytude: man :) [06:27] fatio: dont have shitty ports on my bsd xD [06:27] _RadioHead, y0! [06:27] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:32] 07:27 here... [06:32] going to breakfast [06:32] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@203.122.19.227) left irc: "." [06:32] _ [06:33] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.92.11) joined ##slackware. [06:33] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [06:33] hello all [06:34] bartas (n=chatzill@ej218.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:35] booteco (n=booteco@201.22.29.24) joined ##slackware. [06:35] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:37] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:38] mmmmmmm HUGE roast pork baguette with crackling!! [06:39] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:41] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [06:43] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-129-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:51] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-129-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:52] crackling? [06:52] cmk_zzz (n=martink@125-237-112-135.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [06:59] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[07:12] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:12] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@144.32.6.212) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:18] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:19] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [07:20] greetings from northern Canada:) [07:21] hitest: :) [07:22] hiya frullet! how are you, man? :) [07:23] im doing well mate, how are you? [07:23] Floops (n=baihu@irus.balgus.info) left irc: Connection reset by peer [07:23] Floops (n=baihu@irus.balgus.info) joined ##slackware. [07:24] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:24] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] I am well. Just surfin, having a cup of java, relaxing:) [07:27] The-spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:28] nophis (n=amenophi@xiquexique.ufersa.edu.br) joined ##slackware. [07:28] nophis (n=amenophi@xiquexique.ufersa.edu.br) left irc: Client Quit [07:29] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [07:29] greetings hitest [07:30] hi slackytude:) how goes it? [07:30] fine, fine [07:30] how about you? [07:31] yeah, me as well [07:31] fine that is [07:31] :) [07:31] hitest: from Argentina, capital, hi! [07:31] drinking coffee as well [07:32] hello likevinyl:) [07:32] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] Argentina capital? :) cool [07:38] mmm latinas [07:39] Lexus1: yup, Buenos Aires, Capital Federal. [07:39] The-spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [07:41] paissad (n=paissad@72.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [07:41] nice:) [07:41] how about internet in Buenos Aires? is it cheap? [07:42] heh, latinas [07:42] my 256 kbis/s costs about $12.2 per month [07:43] kbit/s* [07:43] Wow [07:43] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [07:43] expensive?:) [07:43] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:44] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [07:47] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) joined ##slackware. [07:47] zoran119 (n=bojan@241.199.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:49] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:52] Lexus1: 3mb for usd 30 [07:52] spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [07:53] alienBOB: Yesterday i finished making a slackbuild script for bacula. I have it so that it builds the server and client package all in the same script. whats weird is that when the client script gets created the slack-desc doesn't work correctly but the server does. Meaning that when i install it, the server has the description but the client does not. I checked the package by untaring it and the slack-desc is there and is [07:53] $46.48 for 1M residential sDSL in India [07:53] woot ! http://tinyurl.com/89elp3 [07:53] (no, it's not rick roll ;p ) [07:53] yo Camarade_Tux [07:53] yoyo slackytude :) [07:54] agentc0re what is the name you gae the client package? [07:54] Camarade_Tux, wouldnt work for me in VM [07:54] Lexus1: but, not synchronus [07:54] :) [07:55] Lexus1: your community dont deploys free wireless services? [07:55] alienBOB: bacula-3.0.1-i486-1-client_SBo.tgz [07:56] agentc0re - the filename is wrong [07:56] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:56] The BUILD (1-client_SBo) *must not* have a dash in it [07:57] likevinyl: no [07:57] Lexus1: [07:57] You will have a hard time upgrading that package using pkgtools [07:57] win7 : already slow, downloading 3GB at 30KB/s ... [07:57] im work in this project... [07:57] http://galeria.buenosaireslibre.org/Erecciones/EreccionNodoLaTribu/PC140217+_Medium_.JPG.html [07:57] alienBOB: Gotcha. i will change the script. [07:57] :) [07:57] mm [07:57] alienBOB: Whats weird is i could swear that it works for the "server" package though and it's the same layout for the name. [07:58] agentc0re - dashes are only allowed in the PRGNAM part (the program's name) [07:58] without internet of course, but... running a lot of repositories and services [07:58] :) [07:58] included, ftp, p2p, voip , game servers... etc [07:58] at 10mb synchronus [07:58] cool:) [07:58] :) [07:58] The-spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:58] there's smth like a LAN? [07:59] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:59] urxvt (i=1000@c-24-6-14-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:59] yup :) [07:59] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [07:59] alienBOB: Gotcha, thank you. :) [07:59] several years ago i had a desire to make a LAN over the area i live [07:59] everyone [08:00] Lexus1: ur only speak english? [08:00] that was about 5 years ago maybe.. [08:00] yes, only En :) [08:00] also Russian) [08:00] So not only then, Also. [08:00] %) [08:00] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:00] Russian is my mothertonhue, English - is a foreign language which i can use [08:01] tongue* [08:01] use the tongue Luke [08:01] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-81940aed4b22ad51) joined ##slackware. [08:01] Lexus1: [08:01] i also learn german but it's too hard for me. i can understand a bit.. but practically can not communicate) [08:01] m? [08:01] http://wndw.net/pdf/wndw2-en/wndw2-ebook.pdf [08:01] see that excellent book [08:01] :) [08:02] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@203.122.19.227) joined ##slackware. [08:02] ok, started downloading:) [08:02] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:03] i can understandt a bit English xD [08:04] likevinyl, this book looks excellent indeed [08:04] Castillian/Spanish is my first and unique language [08:04] xD [08:04] :) [08:04] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [08:05] zx10k1: yup, nice for start a good ideas and friendships :) [08:05] likevinyl: do you have servers under Slackware in your LAN? [08:05] likevinyl: your English is easy to understood. I would love to know another language:) [08:05] he'll have to leave otherwise :P [08:05] understand [08:06] Lexus1: basically, "debian" but some members are running slack, arch, wifibsd, etc. [08:06] mmm [08:06] debian is also nice:) [08:07] but slack is more familiar to me:) [08:07] debian works well. slack is my favourite tho [08:07] and many others run some embeded distributions over routers (with SD memory hacks) [08:07] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [08:08] practically is a wan ;) see that map http://mapa.buenosaireslibre.org/ [08:08] Ficthe (n=grieve@cpe-24-92-71-240.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:09] nifty! [08:09] what does the blinking heart stand for? [08:09] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:09] last summer i also worked in an ISP and worked with cable:) [08:09] blinking hearts are LIVE nodes [08:10] yellow under construction [08:10] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.194.114) joined ##slackware. [08:10] im having compile errors, missing libutil.h. Anybody know where to find this file? I compile using scons. [08:10] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:10] I thought green was active [08:10] kama (n=kama@host194-52-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:10] slackytude: yep [08:11] so, why are some green and some green + blinking heart [08:12] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@203.122.19.227) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:12] only green is active, blinking and green are linked to others [08:12] ah, ok [08:13] I thought they were in love or something [08:13] some weired distributed orgy or stuff [08:13] jjj [08:13] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:13] likevinyl: thanks fot the book;) in september i'll make a wi-fi hotpot at university:) hope that the book will be useful [08:13] sloinn (n=adam@84.19.44.79) joined ##slackware. [08:13] slackytude, some girl's heart in buenos aires is beating for you... [08:13] I wish -_- [08:13] :P [08:14] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host14-169-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:14] me too.. hahah [08:14] Lexus1: :) [08:14] work hard! and teach :) [08:14] :-) [08:14] I've got a feeling something is wrong with my network stack [08:14] other translations: http://wndw.net/download.html [08:15] likevinyl: pretty kewl! :D [08:15] Shuren (n=Devilman@host155-143-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:15] likevinyl: are you an amateur or this kind of job is your main profession? [08:16] kama (n=kama@host194-52-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:16] likevinyl: What is Reserva Ecologica? [08:16] Lexus1: main profession (freelance and workless) is sysadmin [08:17] \m/ [08:17] designer, (custom vinyls for marketing) [08:17] :) [08:17] likevinyl, what kind of vinyls? [08:17] i'm interested in *nix system/network administration, a little bit in web design, using xhtmll + css and web-standards [08:18] but i'm studying at philological faculty >:o [08:18] Lexus1: http://gallery.atpic.com/26997 [08:18] FliSOl event [08:18] zx10k1: vinyl cutter lettering [08:19] fatio (n=a@e179146023.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [08:19] i promote various gnu festivals [08:19] :) cool [08:19] see the banner [08:19] people in here are too hip for me [08:19] Action: slackytude is just a boring salaryman [08:19] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=coreboot_flashrom&num=1 <- bios flashing from linux, sounds cool :) [08:20] slackytude, rise, start a rebellion, don't accept this fate, fight for you freedom ! :D [08:20] anybody have problems to communicate with linkedin.com on slackware ? [08:20] http://www.flickr.com/photos/likevinyl2/3489041651/ [08:20] here... make owns! [08:20] sloinn, dns ? [08:20] Camarade_Tux, ^-^ [08:21] slackytude: if u wish can leave of this room... [08:21] Camarade_Tux, definitely nothing trivial like this...I'm trying to figure this out entire days [08:21] likevinyl, near, maybe I get by hip by exposure [08:21] sorry, my english is too poor [08:22] sloinn, /me has no problem, you can't even ping them ? [08:22] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:22] likevinyl, getting hip by being near to hip people [08:22] hippie hip [08:22] zounds_ (n=zounds@81-234-214-184-no68.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:22] zounds (n=zounds@81-234-214-184-no68.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:23] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:23] there is some redirection on linkedin and a lot of new TCP connections are created, like 10 for the same IP ... I can't get over the https redirection during login and registration [08:23] I heard the problem is with D-link DSL router, with it's NAT, but I changed the router and even provider and it is still the same [08:24] tried with lynx ? [08:24] yep [08:24] the same [08:24] even from XP on Vbox [08:24] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:25] lynx should show you more precisely where the problem lies, don't you get any error printed ? [08:25] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) left irc: "changing servers" [08:26] mmnt, it's 2 days I tried [08:27] Nick change: A_666_A -> sidmario [08:29] SSL error:unable to get local issuer certificate ... but firefox / opera are able to get it [08:29] at least firefox told me the certificate was accepted and is OK [08:29] opera as well [08:29] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@63.243.153.20) joined ##slackware. [08:31] back :) [08:31] you should be able to "continue" with lynx, doesn't it ask you if you want to continue or not ? [08:31] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.194.114) left irc: "leaving" [08:32] yes it does [08:33] but it stops on the redirection until the connection is closed [08:33] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.92.11) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:33] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host235-215-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "brb" [08:34] is it possible I'm missing some ssl libs the server needs ? [08:34] but it nonsense I guess [08:37] I think you'd get a warning (or a crash) then [08:37] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@63.243.153.20) left irc: "changing servers" [08:38] hughszg (n=hugh_2@58.33.149.105) joined ##slackware. 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[08:55] bartas (n=chatzill@ej218.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" [08:55] what is a good kernel to use for a dual processor p3 scsi setup [08:56] generic-smp [08:56] with initial ramdisk [08:56] Action: slackytude does the smoke break [08:57] cool cool thanks man [08:58] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [08:59] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:59] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [09:00] hmm says kernel not found.. im installing 12.1, is that kernel avail on that version [09:00] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:02] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [09:02] m__: do a full install using hugesmp.s *then* switch to the generic kernel [09:03] ahh thx [09:07] likevinyl: nice site:) [09:12] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [09:16] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [09:17] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [09:17] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.9) left irc: "Leaving" [09:17] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-129-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [09:18] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [09:21] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:21] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:22] Braunne (n=Pete@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] Zozma (n=Winter@98.125.123.118) joined ##slackware. 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[09:40] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:40] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.204.154) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) joined ##slackware. [09:43] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.92.11) joined ##slackware. [09:43] Lexus1 (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [09:43] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [09:44] Lexus1 (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [09:46] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [09:48] agentc0re|work, I like the coffee brewing part [09:48] ya, too bad it's not a real phone :( [09:48] Could you imagine how hot your phone would be after brewing? [09:48] nice site, tho [09:48] heh [09:49] I can see the first lawsuit now. [09:49] I'd proably converts excess heat to power itself [09:49] err, it'd [09:49] I like the translation software, that will be bad-assery once that is actually possible. [09:50] could be some years [09:50] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:51] hmm that website has been around some time it seems. [09:52] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:52] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:52] man, time has slowed to a crawl :( [09:53] agentc0re|work: that phone is the gadget of the century! ;D [09:54] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:54] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [09:55] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [09:55] aperturefever: If it were real, hell's yes it would be. [09:55] i know i know :) i enjoyed the coffee part a lot [09:56] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [10:04] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) left ##slackware. [10:05] agentc0re|work: pong-ish [10:06] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:09] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) joined ##slackware. [10:10] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Zordrak: Have you upgraded to 3.0.1 for bacula yet? [10:11] not touched it.. not had time [10:11] didnt even know there was a v3 [10:11] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] asdacool (n=okasa@87-194-132-76.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:12] help http://roxxxanika.07x.net/?id=865 [10:12] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [10:12] asdacool (n=okasa@87-194-132-76.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware. [10:13] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@122.161.174.56) joined ##slackware. [10:15] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: "Leaving" [10:16] MorgothBauglir1 (n=frost@122.173.162.113) joined ##slackware. [10:16] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@122.161.174.56) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:16] Nick change: MorgothBauglir1 -> MorgothBauglir [10:17] vastina (n=vastina@206.105.111.187) joined ##slackware. [10:18] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:19] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-153-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@122.173.162.113) left irc: Client Quit [10:21] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@122.173.162.113) joined ##slackware. [10:21] why do i always feel so insulted when i come across a ubuntu user? why does that community smile at every user that knows nothing of command line? [10:21] :p [10:22] %) [10:22] thanks to ubuntu community people are atleast shifting over from windows in a greater number [10:22] Well..Linux isn't exactly all commandline [10:23] true [10:23] very true [10:24] Zordrak: Don't update yet, i just finished the slackbuild for it and i can send it to ya if you want. Upgrading is easy as pie. [10:24] straterra: yes that's true, but making a gui tool for every damn thing? i think people should be more intimate with what's going on with their boxes rather than mindlessly clicking buttons and being satasfied [10:24] from an IT sysadmin standpoint it's frustrating [10:25] credo (n=36chambe@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:25] vastina: Well..thats why there are different distros [10:25] as far as converts, i really dislike that about the linux community, let's raise our margin in the number of people we can convert over, how about understanding of the system [10:26] sure. for a user who is *not* interested in Linux, OS, daemons and all like this - it's more convenient to click a buttom. If you are a geek :) you have to know a commandline [10:26] gsan1 (n=gnoel@c-68-32-44-206.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] or not geek but a sysadmin [10:26] just venting frustrations that are very clearly an individual gripe [10:26] sorry i'll shut up :) [10:27] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] /me away) [10:27] credo (n=36chambe@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [10:29] vastina: yeah, I used to try to talk to people about Linux. Now I'll only mention anything about it if someone asks me a direct question. [10:31] no sb for pdfedit [10:31] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:31] hitest: yeah, maybe it's the time in which i joined the community, i'll just swallow my opinions and watch the community morph, the only good thing that comes of this is rapid advancement of mature code, so i guess that much is good... by nature i'm just a bloat-hater, and X is more crap for a server to process [10:31] thats sad [10:31] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:32] vastina: agreed. I also hate bloat which is why I love Slackware:) [10:33] hitest: u can pretty much do that with any distro [10:33] hitest: slackware is the only palatable linux distro for me, i think it's because of my attitude i'm more of a *BSD user [10:34] ttyX: i reckon hitest was referring to the slackware attitude of less is more, don't add it unless you need it and the more unix-like logic [10:34] Hi there - when i startx, what is the name of the file which controls everything that starts up within that x session? for example, i want it to start up xclock [10:35] xinitrc [10:35] vastina: that's coz slackware is more diy type [10:35] buntus arent that type [10:35] slobad23, xinitrc, afaik [10:35] slackytude, thanks :) [10:36] ttyX: never started with the buntus, started with the redhats... ubunutu is just the transgression of hands-off linux [10:36] you rock slackytude [10:36] agentc0re|work: i will try and remember when i get around to it but it's well below the horizon on my priority tree at the moment [10:36] MorgothBauglir, I do? [10:36] agentc0re|work: i just have so much to do and so little time [10:36] p [10:36] MorgothBauglir, err, yeah, I do! [10:36] yes you help people out. you rock! :P [10:36] hell yes! [10:37] slackytude: you got yourself a fan club ;) [10:37] Zordrak: 3.0.1 is worth upgrading to. fixed a lot of bugs. [10:37] Action: MorgothBauglir gets a shirt printed [10:37] Action: ttyX joins slackytude fanclub [10:37] O_o [10:37] Zordrak: just a fyi. [10:37] agentc0re|work: cool... what ver were we on before? [10:37] anyone know how hard it would be it port pkgtools to Solaris 10 (Sparc)? [10:38] sitwon: cant be done I guess [10:38] Zordrak: I was on 2.4.2, you maybe on 2.4.3. there's 2.4.4 and some patches for it, but 3.0.1 is their new stable production branch as of last month. [10:38] sitwon: if most knew, don't you think it'd be done by now? [10:38] coz of the liecense [10:38] license* [10:39] ttyX: license? [10:39] yep [10:39] agentc0re|work: did they go to v3 for serious changes.. or were they just bored of the v2 label? [10:39] how so? [10:39] bsd and gpl war ya know [10:39] :p [10:39] bsd is more free imho [10:39] Zordrak: Serious changes, jump on their site and take a look at the whats new and the change log. [10:39] agentc0re|work: just got there [10:39] gpl is better imho [10:39] ttyX: but 1) Solaris isn't BSD liscensed (or GPL'd), and 2) I never said I planned to distribute it ;-) [10:39] agentc0re|work: lots of behind the scenes changes [10:40] Zordrak: Added a bunch of new features that are nice. I may not go to amanda because of it now. [10:40] sitwon: grab the sourcecode and start working? [10:40] agentc0re|work: tbh i was hoping to see a GUI config util for v3 [10:40] me too. [10:40] Bat has improved a TON though. [10:40] eve just a basic one that spits the file at you [10:40] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) left irc: Connection timed out [10:41] ttyX: I'm wondering if there are any "gotchas" in pkgtools that would be difficult/impossible to translate [10:41] 'cuz I really /hate/ the way packages work now on Solaris [10:42] there aren't any apart from a possible dependence on the gnu versions of utilities [10:42] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] agentc0re|work: meh... maybe it will be more apparant when i get a chance to upgrade it... but atm, none of those changes seem to have any impact at all on the system i have running [10:44] eddie_grey (n=Usuario@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [10:45] agentc0re|work: libdbi is a good thing... i became a big fan of dbi framework after working on external auth for RT.. so it's a big thing... but sthill makes no difference to form or function for end-use [10:49] AusLoki_ (n=josh@62.206.118.26) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [10:50] agentc0re|work: bpipe *could* come in handy [10:51] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] virtual backup feature is pretty sweet. [10:51] at least for backing up baculas own mysql db cleanly... except it already does that in its own in built catalog backup routie [10:52] agentc0re|work: *nod* [10:52] better plugin support, improved VSS support which is good. [10:52] agentc0re|work: but even more complication to something thats already pretty insane [10:52] yes, thats true. [10:52] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.36.137) joined ##slackware. [10:53] agentc0re|work: they really need to go back to basics [10:53] agentc0re|work: it might be newer in design than amanda so that it can understand not everyone wants to backup to tape etc [10:54] but it's still horribly over engineered and insanely complex for what is, in essence a simple process [10:54] yeah, bacula is pretty complex. [10:54] just reading the changelog is giving me a headache [10:55] heh [10:55] I think what would make it seem not as overwhelming is having a GUI to create backups. I had to add a new server and it took me a while to remember how to do it and make sure it was done right. [10:55] *nod* [10:55] vastina: yep. that is what I was referring too, that slack is minimalistic. Going to be installing freebsd 7.2 tonight, didn't get to it yesterday. [10:55] I mean i can do conf scripts, but holy crap. I think i showed you my bacula-dir.conf file. It's HUGE and very complex IMO. [10:56] to [10:56] i fscking hate Veritas NetBackup... but at least i can change my schedule and add two clients without three pots of coffee and a darkened room [10:56] I hate veritass too. [10:56] hitest: nice, just got oenbsd updated to 4.5 on my servers, running like a dream [10:56] bacula needs- to follow their lead for the UI... but making good design decisions along the way [10:56] openbsd* [10:56] the other feature bacula needs is a erase/woef on tapes. I shouldn't have to use mt outside of the bconsole to do such trivial stuff. 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[11:48] is there a package for evilwm in 12.2? I dont see it in the x directory [11:49] barefoot: no. [11:50] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) got lost in the net-split. [11:50] alienBOB (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) got lost in the net-split. [11:50] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) got lost in the net-split. [11:50] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) got lost in the net-split. [11:50] barefoot, there is no package for evilwm (no slackbuild either btw but you can make one and submit it :) ) [11:50] MorgothBauglir (n=frost@122.173.162.113) left irc: "." [11:50] BP{k}, you answer-robber ! [11:50] so 10 was the last time then huh? [11:50] cool, i will look into packaging it [11:51] MorgothBauglir1 (n=frost@122.173.162.113) joined ##slackware. [11:51] barefoot: there was no evilwm in slackware 10.x [11:51] yes there was, in X11 [11:51] MorgothBauglir1 (n=frost@122.173.162.113) left ##slackware. [11:51] MorgothBauglir1 (n=frost@122.173.162.113) joined ##slackware. [11:51] pretty sure, been awhile [11:52] barefoot: please show me a link that proofs that. I just had a look at osuosl. Ther wasn't. [11:53] gsan1 (n=gnoel@c-68-32-44-206.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [11:54] MorgothBauglir1 (n=frost@122.173.162.113) left irc: Client Quit [11:54] searching [11:54] Camarade_Tux_: not my fault your slow. ;-) [11:54] jdetring_ (n=jay@76-200-121-139.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-5e98b33f9f22ad1d) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:56] jdetring (n=jay@76-200-121-139.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Connection timed out [11:56] BP{k}, I just got back home ;) [11:56] and I've had this terrible headache since this morning ='( [11:56] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:57] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [11:58] BP{k}: if you go to linuxpackages.net and search evilwm for any release you will get a few hits [12:00] barefoot: uhm .. linuxpackages does by no way shape, form, definition mean "included in slackware". [12:00] yeah like i mentioned, its been awhile [12:00] in fact, I would quite recommend you to stay as far away as possible from linuxpackages.net [12:01] hmm, should I buy beer today or wait a bit ? [12:02] cool, ill look into packaging it then thanks [12:02] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:03] quit [12:03] barefoot (n=barefoot@unaffiliated/barefoot) left irc: "leaving" [12:03] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:03] alkos333 (n=alkos333@nmd.sbx10826.dekalil.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:03] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[12:46] compl3x (n=comple3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [12:46] hmm come to think aboutu it I dont have sound either - pidgin 2.5.5 on current - what version are you running? [12:47] compl3x: the default version comes with slack 12.2, it's 2.5.2 [12:48] hmm weird - as no-one is talking to me on msn atm can't test mine.. [12:48] gsan1 (n=gnoel@c-68-32-44-206.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] gsan1 (n=gnoel@c-68-32-44-206.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [12:48] + I don [12:48] I dont like half my contacts* [12:48] lol [12:48] ahah unplugging my headphones may of helped. [12:49] Thursap: Ever had sound working with it? [12:49] Also - I suggest you try Tools->Sounds.. may find something in there [12:50] compl3x: mplayer and other apps works fine, just pidgin no sound at all! [12:50] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-120-196.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Thursap: Under Tools -> Preferences... click sounds and have a look at the sound events - may have some unticked.. [12:53] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Hey firebird619 [= [12:54] Hey compl3x, how's it going? [12:54] firebird619: Good, yourself? [12:54] doing great, thank you. :) [12:54] Awesome [12:58] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. 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[13:10] i'll just do drafts today [13:10] :) do free hand stuff [13:10] that works. :D [13:10] :> [13:11] acidchild: I'm just downloading windows 7 rc to toss in a VM. I was reading, it has around 70 wallpapers to choose from, and this rc has that virtual xp thing also to try out. [13:12] The-spiki (n=spiki@static-169-9.adsl.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Thursap: Hmm don't know what to suggest - perhaps upgrade to 2.5.5? [13:12] ah [13:12] legacy support [13:12] the death of windows. [13:12] Death be to Windows, Long live Linux. [13:13] :) [13:13] i might be going to nyc for 4 weeks :) [13:13] death to windows... better duck before you get hit with glass shards >.> [13:13] to do some work... never been to the USA. [13:13] acidchild: cool. Where are you from? [13:13] Toronto, Canada. [13:14] Necos: lol, indeed. duck and run probably. [13:16] acidchild: Ah, so your not to far away from NYC then. [13:16] yep :) [13:16] Try england for me - [13:16] would love to go Nyc [13:16] I moved from Sheffield, England 3 years ago to Canada. [13:16] best thing i ever did :-) [13:16] acidchild: well, if you do go, enjoy yourself and have a good time. :) [13:16] wow [13:16] haha - sheffield.. [13:16] i dream about going somewhere.. [13:16] indeed. [13:16] acidchild:Did you have the accent? :p [13:16] tut this and tut that haha [13:16] but i think it's naot so simple to change the place of living [13:16] south yorkshire accent? lol i guess so [13:16] my area was alot of packistanis and jamacans... [13:16] abit of a 'grimie' accent' [13:16] haha yeah i get you [13:16] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.226) joined ##slackware. [13:16] :) [13:17] jnz (n=jnz_@host235-215-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Anyone a regular reader of hackaday? [13:18] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:33] in ~alien's slackbuilds, some apps dont have pkg version for 12.2, only for previous versions such as 12.0. should i download the .SlackBuild and try to build myself on my machine or using the 12.0 version? [13:33] hba (n=hba@189.188.155.68) joined ##slackware. [13:33] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host235-215-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:34] nille_ (n=nille@c-d92772d5.36-62-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Thursap: in some cases the 12.0 binary will still work. Just try it [13:34] firebrird619: haha yes i did - classic [= [13:35] Thursap, in most cases you can just edit script and download the new version [13:35] from the program site [13:36] so if i want to build my self, i have to edit the .SlackBuild file? [13:38] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host235-215-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.247.120) joined ##slackware. [13:46] not neceserarly [13:46] theere are other ways to [13:47] http://www.slackwiki.org/Building_A_Package [13:48] I wronte a python script to generate a SlackBuild from the SBo template [13:48] but it only works about 60% of the time [13:48] I end up having to tweak things a lot [13:49] sitwon: meh. all SlackBuilds should be tweaked to fit the package exactly. [13:49] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.52.158) joined ##slackware. [13:50] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) joined ##slackware. [13:50] BP{k}: Idealy, but a lot of packages are compiled/installed exactly the same way (./compile;make;make install) so this is like a short-cut for those [13:50] Hey BP{k}. How's it going? [13:50] jnz (n=jnz_@host235-215-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:50] nullboy: ping [13:51] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:53] rk4n3: kind of hard for him to get that ping when he's not even here? [13:53] meh - ya never know :) [13:54] I usually go by tab completion, if the nick doesn't complete, their not here. [13:54] Hey chopp. How are you? [13:55] good firebird619 yourself? [13:55] ... I actually grep the bot logs quite often without joining the channel [13:55] chopp: doing very well, thank you. [13:56] 2:49 left of my windows 7 rc download. :P [13:56] sitwon: ideally usually only excist in theory. I practice theory usually doesn't apply all that close. :) [13:56] firebird619: not bad. waiting for curry :) [13:58] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-144-112-117.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-181-176.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:58] dartmouth (n=dartmout@24.25.172.165) joined ##slackware. [13:59] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.111.135) joined ##slackware. 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[14:16] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Success [14:16] I think it was yesterday that some services for freenode were down for a while, but not freenode itself where you couldn't connect, etc. [14:18] i was out, my pc was off, when i came back, powered on my pc, i couldnt connect to freenode.net. [14:19] ever get to that stage in a convosation where someone is just oviously dumb [14:19] maybe some minor thing like mirrors.. [14:19] acidchild: u mean me now? [14:19] acidchild: have in the past, yeah. [14:19] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [14:19] pupit: lol [14:20] :) [14:20] no [14:20] lol [14:20] barefoot (n=barefoot@unaffiliated/barefoot) joined ##slackware. [14:20] just like, she always use to be smart... when i was in school with her. [14:20] well, windows 7 rc is installing to the vm now. [14:20] acidchild: and now she appears to not be smart? [14:21] but now i'm trying to have a serious and interesting convo about genetics, fertility treatment and incemination [14:21] indeed [14:21] mega fail [14:21] now she's gone off msn, woot [14:21] =) [14:21] haha [14:22] acidchild: maybe she doenst want to learn things n stuff in her life anymore.. [14:22] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] like, it is enough for her what she knows already [14:22] she's come to the point in life and though, why be smart when I can be dumb? :P [14:22] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:23] pupit: could be, she's come to a point where she's happy and content maybe. [14:23] she's in university for something i can't remember. [14:24] i can't say anything to her without feeling like i'm bragging or rubbing something in her face. [14:24] firebird619: now, u see, i dont blame her, cause only God knows whats happening in her... [14:24] acidchild: my point.. [14:24] pupit: indeed. [14:24] pupit: God is a epic stupid comment to place in this convo [14:24] or any convo on irc. [14:25] haha [14:25] no he isnt [14:25] but nevermind [14:25] its just a wonder... this girl has awesome parents. [14:26] lives in a nice area and a nice place, i guess a really good childhood [14:26] God bless her [14:26] :D [14:26] always seemed so bright and hopful [14:26] acidchild: has this just been today she seem's, well, dumb, or been happening for a while? [14:26] and now she just seems like a elbow eating retard... who always talks about how hungry she is. [14:26] no for a while. [14:26] we 're-met' off facebook a little while ago. [14:27] how does she seem otherwise? [14:27] i don't think she's every talked to me about a subject. [14:27] other than maybe how hungry she is [14:27] or how full she is. [14:27] that's all she talks about, that's like really weird. [14:27] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:27] acidchild: maybe she is pregnant... [14:27] mmm indeed. [14:27] no. [14:29] Nick change: fevel -> fevel-away [14:29] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:29] fevel-away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [14:30] what the hell r u teenagers talking about in here??? [14:30] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.226) left irc: Connection timed out [14:31] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03347.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] acidchild: think something medically/health wise happened to her? Did this like happen all of a sudden, one day she seemed smart and the next day not so much? [14:32] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [14:32] acidchild: http://pastebin.ca/1413504 [14:32] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] what do i need to install rtorrent? [14:33] i get packages rtorrent and libtorrent from slacky.eu but it seems so many packages are required :( [14:33] Thursap: rtorrent is on slackbuilds.org, you can look it up there. [14:34] acidchild: so, the way she uses her time, there will be her heart and mind. [14:35] firebird619: does it need many dependencies? [14:35] not that it shows. slackbuilds.org is the recommended place to get stuff. [14:35] firebird619: and how is that W 7 goes on your vm? [14:35] where did u get it? [14:36] pupit: Microsoft is offering the RC free for download. [14:36] o [14:36] i red about it [14:36] pupit: It's just about done installing. [14:36] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [14:36] firebird619: u have a mean machine there? [14:36] get this though, It's good to use into June 1, 2010, but starting March 1, 2010, it will shut down every two hours. [14:37] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] pupit: Dell, 3.2 GHz HT, 1 GB RAM. 640 GB HDD. Not the fastest machine, but plenty good for me. [14:38] firebird619: virtualbox or vmware? [14:38] virtualbox [14:39] It's M$. It will shutdown that often anyway. :P [14:40] yeah, thats the trivial thing about it.. [14:40] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [14:41] chopp: haha [14:44] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:45] chopp: Being M$, it won't only shutdown, but it'll give you a BSOD too. [14:46] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.140) joined ##slackware. [14:46] you think if i plug my digital camera in to the laptop it will let me transfer pictures from it? [14:46] its a fuji thing. [14:46] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [14:46] it should, unless you have an odd camera that isn't supported. [14:47] acidchild: I allways found it easier to use a card reader for whatever your camera uses. [14:47] that's what I always do, I have a nice little card reader that I use. [14:48] any easier on the cams batteries. :P [14:48] yeah, I had some cameras that the batteries were really drained after connecting to the pc. [14:48] /s/any/and [14:48] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] using the card reader seems to transfer faster too. [14:49] chopp: my card reader is back at my old place at the moment :-( [14:49] acidchild: get an Eye-Fi SD card and transfer wirelessly. :P [14:49] but i have a USB cable and my camera here. [14:50] acidchild: just give it a try, worse case, it doesn't work. [14:51] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:52] acidchild: I see. Well I'm digging here, trying to remember what I used to use. It was a good app. [14:52] digikam ftw. :) [14:53] acidchild: does it have a mass storage mode? [14:53] i have a finepix s8100fd [14:53] hmm, ok, I research a bit and see if it does. If so, it should just show up a as a removeable drive and you can drag and drop. [14:54] s/I/I'll [14:54] acidchild: whoa, nice camera. [14:54] I think it was gphoto2. Thats included with slack now. [14:55] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:55] gphoto never worked with mine, but I haven't tried it for a while. [14:57] so is there anyway to see if its supported? [14:57] firebird619: i love it =) [14:57] why tar fails? http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13336 [14:57] donald-a (n=User1@91.111.156.179) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Does anyone know what happened to the Slackwiki tutorials? [14:58] hba: you dont need the ls :P [14:59] you can do, for i in ../*.tar.gz ; do tar -zxvf $i ; done ? [15:00] acidchild: done and it works, but why tar fails? [15:00] acidchild: Hmm, I'm not seeing about mass storage in the manual for your camera, but I would certainly think it has mass storage mode, most all cameras do. [15:00] lownoize (n=lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:01] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] doesn't matter, i've not got the usb cable for the camera here. [15:02] i'm going to have to go for a little trip back to the old place =/ [15:02] firebird619: if it's a P&S, it might not [15:03] acidchild: lol, ok. [15:03] i know the nikon coolpix P5100 doesn't support MSC mode [15:03] ok, it seems the problem is with the 'ls colored-crap output' :) [15:03] Necos: every point and shoot I've had has had MSC. [15:03] well i dunno if this camera is classed as a point and shoot ;/ [15:03] Necos: but I know that some do not have MSC. [15:03] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) joined ##slackware. [15:04] acidchild: Your's would be more DSLR-like. [15:04] acidchild: what camera is it? [15:04] Fuji S8100fd [15:04] Necos: ^^^ [15:04] it was too far back in the buffer firebird619 =p [15:05] have you tried attaching it to a vm? [15:05] lol no. [15:05] i'll just sort out moving all my other stuff tonight [15:05] some how. [15:06] that'd be the definitive test... [15:06] i have to use vmware + winxp to get pics off the P5100 [15:06] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [15:06] acidchild: from your manual: The S8100fd is compatible with PTP/MTP mode. [15:07] PTP? MTP? [15:07] Point to poop? [15:07] method to poop? [15:08] Picture Transfer Protocol [15:08] Media Transfer Protocol [15:08] ok.......... [15:08] so maybe some application will support that... or ? [15:09] ptp.sf.net [15:09] interesting [15:09] Possibly, yes, but no MSC mode, so it just won't show up as a removeable disk. [15:09] yeah [15:09] MTP mode is media transfer thingy... [15:09] you want MSC [15:10] i just need to go plug my sd card in to a card reader =P [15:10] lol yes [15:10] i have a floppy drive bay style one... with a USB modular connector [15:10] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@87.13.89.215) joined ##slackware. [15:10] Necos: yeah, his doesn't have MSC it doesn't look like. [15:10] shame, i'd like to just bring that peice with me and plug it in to the laptop :- [15:10] =( [15:10] compl3x (n=comple3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [15:11] Windows 7 RC is now installed in a vm. [15:11] i hate when laptops come with the onboard ones... they're usually shitty quality [15:11] firebird619: you should put that VM on torrent [15:11] for others.. :-) [15:11] haha [15:11] Why? [15:11] Necos: mmmm my EEEPC SD card reader works fine. [15:11] You can freely get the ISO yourself [15:11] straterra: people who are too lazy to install it from ISO [15:11] o.O [15:11] my gateway is crap with the onboard [15:11] It took 40 minutes to download the rc, get it yourself. [15:11] It takes like 20 minutes..maybe [15:12] i dont want it! >>>>#>!@#!<@#!@3123 [15:12] random thought: [15:12] fuck windows [15:12] http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Bloodninja/logs [15:12] straterra: took 40 minutes for me. [15:13] What hardware? [15:13] japanese toaster oven. [15:13] get wiv it. yo [15:14] which model? why not netbsd? [15:14] straterra: 3.2 GHz HT, 1 GB Ram, 640 GB HDD, 8 MB cable Internet connection. [15:14] ^_^ [15:14] HT? [15:14] HT is crap :( [15:14] hyper-threading. [15:14] hyper threading [15:14] What processor? [15:14] i had a 3.06 HT [15:14] Is it i7? [15:14] Necos: Yes, I know. [15:14] intel [15:14] straterra: no, just a Intel Pentium 4. [15:15] i7 has an improved handler for hyper threading [15:15] Oh..p4 [15:15] yup [15:15] Did you give the VM a gig..or is that the host machine? [15:15] straterra: Those specs are the host. [15:15] gave the VM 512. [15:15] otherwise, it wouldn't install. :P [15:15] i upgraded to an E5200 with 2gigs of ram [15:15] No wonder it took 40 minutes [15:15] much, much better [15:15] Those are like..bare specs [15:16] Does anyone know what happened to the Slackwiki tutorials? They seem to have disappeared [15:16] straterra: yeah, not much, but works plenty good for me. [15:16] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.247.120) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:16] straterra: It's the pc I won in a sweepstakes, I won't complain. [15:17] donald-a (n=User1@91.111.156.179) left ##slackware. [15:17] donald-a: the wiki is messed up. http://slackwiki.org/Special:AllPages [15:17] firebird619: sounds like a nice rig :-) [15:18] acidchild: yeah, it is. Works great for me. I'd like to get more ram, etc. but it's not cheap. :D [15:18] Should just be DDR [15:18] Ram is SO cheap! [15:18] DDR is cheap enough [15:19] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.61.140) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:19] straterra: It is DDR, PC3200, but when you don't have much money, it's expensive. [15:20] my ram was $20 [15:20] crucial PC6400 [15:20] When you don't have money, everything is expensive [15:20] PC2-6400? [15:20] indeed [15:20] or actual DDR? [15:20] PC2-6400, my bad lol [15:20] ssh lag [15:20] ah, ok [15:20] firebird619: join freecycle and troll craigslist in the 'free' and 'wanted' [15:20] you'll get some ram pretty quick :-) [15:21] acidchild: yeah, could do that. :D [15:21] hahaha [15:22] watch out tho for the CL killer =p [15:22] someone was giving away a free pickle costum on craigslist [15:22] he got 70 calls. [15:22] Necos: oh plz. [15:22] Necos: no kidding. [15:22] that was sarcasm =p [15:22] the CL killer is innocent! his fiancee says so! [15:22] haha [15:23] lowl [15:23] why would an MD student want to go kill people? huh?! he couldn't hurt a fly! [15:23] =P [15:23] peoples ignorance is amazing and sad at the same time [15:23] hahahahaha [15:24] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-161.net-81-220-254.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:24] haha [15:24] no, just sad [15:24] depends on which side of the fence your comming from. [15:24] you need them for something, its amazing. [15:24] well... i can understand and appreciate his lady's and friend's heart and faith in him, hell i envy some of that, but i really think his allies should shut their traps until they see presented evidence [15:24] they sheep along behind you, its kinda sad. [15:24] sad if you're alone but amazing and entertaining if aren't :) [15:24] haha [15:24] keoni (i=1000@208-106-15-140.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [15:25] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] Action: vastina loves windows lackeys coming in and flooding his beloved linux and gui'ing it out without stability... [15:25] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:25] hell because of these lackeys i can see some regularly neglected code mature, and code i could care less about mature as well! [15:26] RickyFloW (n=fl0w@190.166.131.249) joined ##slackware. [15:27] >.> [15:28] yeah, didn't think i'd get much feedback for my comments [15:28] :) [15:28] <.< [15:28] ^.^ [15:28] ( o Y o ) [15:28] -_-; [15:29] vastina: pancake nipples! [15:29] acidchild: haha, 'ere's lookin' atchya kid; ( O Y o ) [15:29] now they're lopsided. [15:30] (O oo O) oink! oink! [15:30] :O [15:30] haha [15:30] http://www.teenfreeway.com/rewardsgold/forbes/sg_forbes_pg3w.htm [15:31] be careful, its a pig from mexico :P [15:31] Oh Noes [15:31] teenfreeway huh? yeah, i think i'll go ahead and not execute that link here at work [15:31] Action: firebird619 puts on his mask. [15:31] hahaha [15:31] its a years free subscription to forbes mag. [15:32] acidchild: yeah, how about no [15:32] :) [15:32] indeed [15:32] why do you think its free? durh [15:32] Action: vastina just thinks of the looks he'll get from peers seeing his unix arse pulling teenfreeway.com... [15:32] Windows 7 RC seems to perform better in a vm than the beta did. [15:33] haha [15:33] firebird619: first hello, because you're always polite and say hello, but what the fuck are you wasting a perfectly good vt on exotic windows poison for? [15:33] Action: vastina smacks firebird619 [15:33] haha [15:33] compl3x (n=comple3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [15:34] hey guys [15:34] hello vastina, how are you? [15:34] Oh Noes, it's compl3x. [15:34] good, yourself? [15:34] Action: firebird619 runs and hides. [15:34] firebird619: Watch it :p [15:34] hey compl3x [15:34] Kraptronnik (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:34] vastina: doing very well, thanks. [15:34] hey vastina [= [15:34] compl3x: :P, how's it goin? [15:34] Good good - just watching a bit of big bang theory lol - yourself? [15:35] doing very well, thanks. Big Bang Theory isn't a bad show. [15:35] awesome [15:35] Action: compl3x needs to quit smoking [15:35] Action: vastina listens to some old Stranglers [15:35] damn these organs are hot! [15:35] Action: compl3x loves stranglers [15:36] hmmmm [15:36] but the money's no good! so get a grip on yourself... [15:36] :p [15:36] that's not a good statement to walk back to your desk to [15:36] whazza? [15:36] vastina has good taste [15:36] alienBOB: haha cheers [15:36] definitely not [15:36] lol [15:36] :) [15:37] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.18.154) joined ##slackware. [15:37] I am from that good old punk era [15:37] mornin peoples [15:37] heya Urchlay [15:37] alienBOB: damn right man [15:38] 1970s? [15:38] good php editor anyone? [15:38] vim [15:38] hey urchlay [15:38] Urchlay: late 70s [15:38] me && vm don't agree [15:38] early 80s [15:39] vim* [15:39] hmm, what about The Damned, anyone like them? [15:39] love the damned [15:39] neat neat neat!! [15:39] Yeah [15:40] they're probably in my top 10 favorite bands (not just punk bands either) [15:40] never heard stranglers, sounds like maybe I should [15:41] downwater (i=1000@ram94-8-88-165-232-7.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] hi [15:41] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [15:41] Urchlay: be picky with what you get, once hugh cornwall left, the band hit the gutter [15:41] No doubt youtube has videos, they are still going strong [15:41] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:42] Urchlay: look up stranglers get a grip on youtube [15:42] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:42] be amazed by the organs [15:42] hrrr, what year was that? [15:42] how to use an usb scanner as non-root ? i added myself into scanner & plugdev but cannot use it... Maybe udev symlinks (which are root:root) are the problem ? [15:43] scanner & plugdev groups I meant [15:43] hmm, found a live version, pretty cool [15:43] reminds me of early Clash a bit [15:44] Urchlay: get studio stuff, much better for trial [15:45] not a lotta studio stuff on youtube, but you're probably right [15:46] (scanner : hplip photosmart) [15:46] downwater: you mean the symlinks are root-owned, or the actual device nodes they point to? [15:46] yes [15:46] the symliks are root owned [15:46] but the devices aren't? [15:47] devices nodes are root:plugdev [15:47] moving onto some sonic youth here [15:47] i added my account in plugdev group [15:47] :p [15:47] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] downwater: have you logged out & back in since adding your account to the plugdev group? [15:48] yeah [15:48] and if you run "id" or "groups" it shows you're in the plugdev group? [15:48] indeed [15:49] hm. Sounds like not a permission problem. What error do you get when trying to use the scanner? [15:50] cause the ownership of the symlinks doesn't matter [15:50] as root-user, it works well [15:50] sane-find-scanner finds it [15:50] but not when logged as non-root [15:51] downwater: are you in the scanner group? [15:51] devices nodes are root:plugdev <--- does he need to be in the scanner group? [15:51] yes [15:51] i put myself in both scanner & root [15:51] err [15:51] i put myself in both scanner & plugdev [15:52] Urchlay: Well, maybe not if it's plugdev. [15:52] maybe should I add myself into root group ? [15:52] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-33.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] NO [15:53] i mean, for testing of course :) [15:53] Action: compl3x always runs as root on unnetworked pc [15:53] paste the output of "groups" here [15:53] lol [15:53] compl3x: that's not a good idea. [15:53] okay [15:53] users floppy audio video cdrom plugdev scanner [15:53] you should make a non-root group and give it perms on the device [15:53] firebird619: Doesn't really bother me :p , i hate having to sudo all the time [15:53] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] brw-rw---- 1 root plugdev 8, 32 2009-05-05 20:11 /dev/sdc (seems to be the scanner) [15:54] hm. he really is in plugdev & scanner groups then... [15:54] /dev/sdc wouldn't be the scanner, would it? [15:54] scanners show up as scsi disk drives? [15:54] that doesn't seem right downwater [15:54] that isn't the scanner. [15:54] sdc would be a hard drive or something like that. [15:54] compl3x: are you mad? sudo is your friend [15:54] USB stick maybe [15:55] yeah, possibly. [15:55] vastina: I just hate having to type it all the time [15:55] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [15:55] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [15:55] vastina: don't be mad, get glad. :P [15:55] possibly the scanner has CF/SC/etc. slots on it too (I've got a printer like that) [15:55] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.111.135) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:55] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2009-05-05 20:11 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-HP_Photosmart_C4400_TH91NH22G505BN-0:0 -> ../../sdc [15:55] Urchlay: Yeah, I have a Brother all-in-one that has that. [15:55] heh suppose I should really stop using root on that pc - [15:56] Err, why would his scanner be linked to sdc [15:56] firebird619: the symlink references /dev/sdc [15:56] downwater: does that scanner have slots for memory cards or something? [15:56] firebird619: had i only been raised in england i'd have no clue what you're on about, but knowing american culture, that was cheesier than chevre chunks in limburger [15:56] vastina: hahaha [15:56] vastina: Your from england? [15:56] firebird619 & Urchlay : dunno... it's a Photosmart HP [15:56] compl3x: yes [15:56] I'll look it up, sec. [15:56] (all in one : printer/scanner/etc.) [15:56] Vastina: Finally someone from the uk here [= [15:56] RickyFloW (n=fl0w@190.166.131.249) left ##slackware. [15:57] downwater: well *look at it* and see if you see any slots for CF or SD cards or anything? [15:57] Urchlay: yes [15:57] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:57] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [15:57] i was thinking about slots me too :D [15:57] fuck... stupid lens is too expensive for the shit it does lol [15:57] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [15:57] yes, it does have slots? cause that's what you're seeing there as /dev/hdc [15:57] I don't see how in the world it would be linked to /dev/sdc [15:57] yeah, that would do it. [15:57] Urchlay: yes [15:57] Hmm, I wonder what mine shows up as when it's connected. [15:57] the scanner part of the scanner, I dunno what they show up as on modern udev-driven Linux, but it ain't a disk [15:58] run "lsusb" perhaps? [15:58] http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/449088-USA/Nikon_2161_70_300mm_f_4_5_6G_AF_S_VR.html [15:58] compl3x: there's a few of us in here [15:58] no, but the card reader would show up as a disk. [15:58] compl3x: heh. plenty of people from the UK here. And other countries [15:59] Wow - just haven't seen an Uk's around [15:59] Necos: no, no, no You need this one: http://gizmodo.com/5217989/the-photographer-king-needs-no-tripod :P [15:59] anyway, some news about slack 13 ? [16:00] yeah, it's not here yet. :P [16:00] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:00] we don't even know for sure whether it'll be 13 or 12.3, do we? [16:00] indeed [16:00] Urchlay: nope. It's a mystery. [16:00] though PV hasn't done an anything.3 release in eons (what was the last one, 3.3?) [16:01] uva- (i=bno@118-168-237-87.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] some *so randomly disappeared from my system... Fixed it, but want to wait for 12.3/13.0 to make a clean install :) [16:01] firebird619: that thing is a BMW in your hands ^_^ [16:01] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [16:01] based on on pkgtools: pkgtools-12.34567890-noarch-5.tgz [16:01] Necos: haha, it sure is. [16:01] qt4 for the next one [16:01] firebird619: did you see the model he was takin pics of?! [16:01] 2 words: OH YEAH! [16:01] Necos: a BMW with all the options. [16:01] Necos: haha, yes I dod. [16:02] s/dod/did [16:02] Action: Necos turns in to Stinkmeaner [16:02] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: Client Quit [16:02] Necos: Think he's trying to overcompensate for anything? :P [16:02] lol and then some [16:02] lol you gotta watch The Boondocks... [16:03] OH YEAH NYIGGUH! [16:04] oh why have I never learnt to use vi [16:04] compl3x: You tell us? [16:04] :P [16:04] ha :p [16:05] good grief the card reader on my printer is slow. [16:05] No wonder I don't use it. [16:06] Or..the card itself is slow [16:06] compl3x: because you weren't enlightened yet? ;) [16:06] Possibly [16:06] straterra: nah, it's the reader, every card no matter what, is slow, the card is an 8GB class 6. [16:06] jarax (n=augusto@189-041-60-168.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:07] Could be USB 1.1 too o.O [16:07] The printer is 2.0, otherwise that would explain it. [16:07] The screen on the printer says "Checking Image" [16:08] ewww [16:09] What's it checking for? seriously. I don't want to print the things, I want it to read the card and show up on the PC. :P [16:09] Hmm in VI Ive edited my file - when I try to escape and write the file it doesn't work :/ Im pressing escape, then :w then zz [16:09] compl3x: what does it do compared to what you want it to do? [16:09] Kraptronnik (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [16:10] firebird619: Don't worry now - the command input wasn't taking input - sorted [= [16:10] :D [16:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:12] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.18.154) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE6930.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] compl3x: if you're going to learn vi, might I recommend you use vim instead of the default slackware vi (which is actually elvis)? [16:16] I find the card reader on my printer in /dev/disk/by-label and it links to sdb1. [16:16] yup, use elvis and you'll be all shook up. [16:16] Urchlay: okay cheers [16:16] multi-level undo support really helps ;) [16:17] either always "vim filename", or "cd /usr/bin; rm vi; ln -s vim vi" to make vim the default [16:17] Hey Camarade_Tux. How are you? [16:17] /usr/bin/vi starts out as a symlink to elvis, you're not deleting anything if you rm it [16:17] hi firebird619, nice, and you ? [16:18] Camarade_Tux: doing very well, thank you. [16:19] today I've decided I would probably (try to) port pkgsrc to mingw(-w64), at least for cross-compilation [16:19] slacknode (i=0@c-71-56-242-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:19] uva (i=bno@118-160-164-221.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:19] no, I'm not completely mad ;p [16:19] lol, Good luck with your venture there Camarade_Tux. [16:19] Anyone here like modeselektor? [16:19] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE6930.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [16:20] « Add the user paulo to the "lp" group. You have one of those stupid HP all-in-ones which are only reachable as a lp user. » [16:20] i'm trying :) [16:20] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] downwater: where'd you find that? [16:21] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=517218 [16:21] brb :) [16:21] omzine (n=othermin@136.sub-75-216-27.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:21] mmh no need, i'll use a text term [16:21] well, I'm too tired, going to bed :) [16:22] nice dreams [16:22] Good Night Camarade_Tux [16:22] creative c/c dreams of course [16:22] :D [16:22] Hmm - need a new harddrive - any recommendations? [16:22] 1 TB. :P [16:22] Well yeah my plan - i mean model' :) [16:22] Western Digital ? [16:22] haha, I know. :P [16:22] it works :D [16:22] woohoo [16:23] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] I have a Seatgate drive that works well. [16:23] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:23] rpm? [16:23] downwater: adding your user to the lp group fixed it? [16:23] good evening folks :-) [16:23] evening macavity. How are you? [16:23] 7200 should be good for most scenarios [16:23] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:23] evening [16:23] downwater: that worked? [16:23] Urchlay: yes [16:23] firebird619: very good.. just about to start hacking on a clean linear build or xorg et al [16:23] worked = sane-find-scanner found it [16:24] isn't lp printing? that fixed your scanner. [16:24] macavity: Ah, nice. Have fun. [16:24] i have an all-in-one printer [16:24] funky [16:24] (look at the quote) [16:24] downwater: yes, I know. I looked up the model. [16:24] Is bigger the cache generally quicker I/O? [16:24] it's strange... [16:24] compl3x: genrally yes [16:24] compl3x: generally, yes [16:24] jinx :) [16:25] haha [16:25] weird [16:25] :) [16:25] compl3x: however there are situations where you want to trade size for speed [16:25] downwater: can you scan with xsane now too as normal user? [16:25] that's what SHE said [16:25] Size isn't an issue for me - ;) [16:25] haha [16:25] haha [16:25] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] I suppose I'm in the market for either a new laptop drive, or else a new (well, cheap used) laptop [16:25] firebird619: i have to log out... i can't cause i'm working :) [16:25] ok [16:25] firebird619: in a couple of minutes i will be able [16:26] Ooh W/d 750gb 7200rpm 32mb cache - £69 .99 :) [16:26] downwater: ok, cool. [16:26] compl3x: eg, Intel makes a GT line of their 1/10Gbit NICs that only have half the regular amount of cache.. but it runs at double speed. In my benchamarks that was signifigantly faster, as we do use services that makes use of jumbo packages anyhow [16:26] it's a bit demotivating to close/open ooo :D [16:26] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:26] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:26] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Urchlay: I was about to get a cheap used laptop, but the guy called today and said he's using it again and needs to get his other one fixed. It stunk if a lie imho. [16:27] s/if/of [16:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:27] bummer [16:27] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [16:27] uhm, have any of you good people seen rworkman active within the last, say, 6 hours or so? [16:27] Hmm - im copying a few gigs of files round on one drive - and its lagging everything up :/ [16:28] Urchlay: yeah, I'm looking around on ebay now just to see what's out there. [16:28] compl3x: buggy IDE/SATA controller / driver? [16:28] this laptop I have, the hard drive is reaching "old age failure" according to SMART, and the backlight takes forever to warm up & stop flickering. It's only 7 years old... [16:28] wrong scheduler :P [16:28] macavity: No, last I seen him iirc was earlier yesterday. [16:29] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:29] Urchlay: time for a new (used) one maybe? :) [16:29] yeah [16:29] Urchlay: maybe better than just replacing the drive. [16:29] yes.. just before i started pestering him with useless info about the severity of the upcomming xorg problem [16:29] thumbs: hmm dunno [16:29] kitche: ping? [16:29] but it angers me. I have the first color TV the parents bought when I was 4 years old, and it still works great [16:29] macavity: rworkman is busy someplace else [16:29] thumbs: Harddrives pretty old tbh [16:29] alienBOB: thx :-) [16:29] and I have SCSI drives made 20 years ago that work great, too [16:30] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [16:30] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:30] I have no drives that work great .. [16:30] [00:55] BP{k}: well, the tree is pullable now, and it builds. git://github.com/rworkman/module-init-tools.git [16:30] lucky you urchlay :p [16:30] ... rworkman's most recent activity [16:30] rk4n3: thx [16:30] I'm of the old generation, we expect to buy something and keep using for many years (longer than 7 anyway) [16:30] this .29 kernel has ext4 support, right? [16:30] Urchlay: heh, as with most thinks, seems like the stuff made years ago work forever, and the new stuff barely lasts any length of time at all. [16:30] amazon101: yes [16:30] s/thinks/things [16:31] grr gotta go this lag is stupid :| new harddrive on its way - cya guys [16:31] Nick change: amazon101 -> amazon10x [16:31] later compl3x [16:31] ta ta [16:31] compl3x (n=comple3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [16:31] macavity: "upcomming xorg problem"? Like, the upcoming xorg is problematic? ;-) [16:31] my Atari 800 is almost 30 years old and still works (though the keyboard needed replacing once... replaced it with one made 2 days after the original one) [16:31] hey, macavity, here's something funny. so i managed to avoid reinstalling from the ati driver fiasco. however, it looks like my machine may have been compromised, so i'm going to need to reinstall anyway. crazy, huh [16:32] alienBOB: by my count we have 77 packages that has been infected with the soon-to-be-dead xcb-xlib.la archive [16:32] us34 (n=us34@83.254.191.151) joined ##slackware. [16:32] amazon10x: you haz been hacked? :P [16:32] alienBOB: find / -name "*.la" -print0 | xargs -0 grep "xcb-xlib.la" | cut -d : -f 1 | cut -d \/ -f1 --complement | grep -l-f - /var/log/packages/* | uniq | sort | cut -d \/ -f 5 [16:32] alienBOB: that is how you find them... i hope you have a full install ;-) [16:32] macavity: that is no problem as long as we do not update x.org... [16:33] And I know about the xcb-xlib demise [16:33] alienBOB: some day we will have to update xorg :P [16:33] Some day yes. Not today [16:33] firebird619: i have reason to believe i might have. turns out i had nothing setup to ignore ssh login attempts after so many failurs [16:33] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] so my logs go back 1 month ago and i've been hit with login attempts from various computers throughout europe and china [16:33] hrrr, those packages will just need a recompile, or updated versions of their source too? [16:33] i'm watching two chinese men install a sink [16:33] lol [16:33] haha [16:33] Urchlay: recompile [16:34] the sink is nice though [16:34] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-71-186.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] amazon10x: attempts are only bad if they're successful... [16:34] stainless steel 2ft deep [16:34] =] [16:34] Urchlay: well, there are a bajillion failed attempts but my shell account had a login from a cali IP [16:34] and i'm on the other coast [16:34] ah. That sounds bad [16:35] yep [16:35] someones password got hacked =p [16:35] alienBOB: oh, and Intel GMA950 (945GM and freinds) is semi broken with anything from .28 and onwards when it is used with xserver-1.4.x [16:35] and i really have no idea what his attack vector was. but if he had access to the shell account, he could've gotten to my main machien too [16:35] amazon10x: where on the other coast? =] [16:35] maryland [16:35] ahhh [16:35] you from around here? [16:35] Toronto, Canada. [16:35] Baltimore? [16:36] yeah, i think i'm a bit of a ways from toronoto :P [16:36] :P [16:36] othermindszine (n=othermin@143.sub-70-192-18.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] wow this sink is sexy [16:36] i wana make love to it [16:36] alienBOB: this is my dmesg http://pastebin.ca/1411725 [16:36] omzine (n=othermin@136.sub-75-216-27.myvzw.com) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [16:36] Pig_Pen: not baltimore, but around there, yeah [16:36] big up Colorado! [16:37] othermindszine (n=othermin@136.sub-75-216-27.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:37] haha [16:37] Nick change: othermindszine -> merp [16:37] i been through baltimore just once when i was trucking, i seen the biggest oldest cemetary i ever seen in my life, it was like headstones as far as the eye could see, scary in a skullduggery kind of way [16:37] where else would you find mountain gnomes, chai tea, craft beer capitol, all well around a mile above sea level [16:38] vastina: the moon. [16:38] macavity: and after that, there is no X at all? [16:38] acidchild: mountain gnomes and chai tea? you sure? [16:39] alienBOB: there is X.. but it is severly slower than 12.1 (i didnt try 12.2 yet, but theory say they should perform identical) [16:39] hmmmm macavity? [16:39] Necos: yes? [16:39] what's not workin? [16:40] macavity: my eeepc with intel gma950 runs KDE with compositor enabled... using the stock X.org driver in slackware-current [16:40] With the 2.6.29.2-smp kernel [16:41] your one of the luckey ones then [16:41] hmmmm [16:41] amazon10x_ (i=1000@sutopia.student.umd.edu) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:42] if i gather things correctly, it has something to do with the pins are wired [16:42] vastina: haha :P [16:42] maybe? [16:42] guess i'll need to go to the moon soon in that case [16:42] haha [16:42] yes you do. [16:42] was planning on the kaikal region of eastern russia but the moon sounds sweet, especially with chai tea and gnomes [16:42] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.210) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Nick change: merp -> iluvatar [16:43] but the matter is fixed in recent versions of the intel driver... notably the versions that wont compile without the whole bangalore is required for xserver-1.6.x [16:43] Nick change: iluvatar -> manwe [16:43] Nick change: manwe -> ungoliant [16:43] baikal* [16:43] Nick change: ungoliant -> gwahir [16:44] Nick change: gwahir -> eru_iluvatar [16:44] downwater (i=1000@ram94-8-88-165-232-7.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [16:45] wow.. my -current is out of date [16:45] hang on :P [16:45] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-161.net-81-220-254.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:45] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) left irc: [16:45] Nick change: eru_iluvatar -> merp [16:45] i feel high off the fumes from the sink installation [16:45] =O [16:46] Nick change: merp -> eru_iluvatar [16:46] eru_iluvatar (n=othermin@136.sub-75-216-27.myvzw.com) left ##slackware ("Namarië"). [16:46] downwater (i=1000@ram94-8-88-165-232-7.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] jarax (n=augusto@189-041-60-168.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [16:46] it works [16:46] (scanner) [16:46] what did they use acidchild, when i installed a kitchen sink the only thing i used was some silicone glue/sealant and some plumbers putty [16:47] congrats [16:47] Pig_Pen: it was something like silicone glue.. [16:47] firebird619: so for a HP psc -> we have to be added in lp group :) [16:47] the sink is beutiful :D [16:47] Neo_The_User (n=matrix@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:48] stainless steel sinks do look nice compared to enamel coated sinks [16:48] its big and deep too :D [16:48] acidchild: look at your name, and you get high off sealant fumes from an installation?? what a disgrace to a sweet acid name [16:48] othermindszine (n=othermin@136.sub-75-216-27.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:48] othermindszine (n=othermin@136.sub-75-216-27.myvzw.com) left ##slackware ("Namarië"). [16:48] vastina: oh i've been much higher ;x [16:48] NetEcho (i=NetEcho@unaffiliated/netecho) joined ##slackware. [16:48] Neo_The_User (n=matrix@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:49] oh man... slackpkg is a godsent :P [16:49] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:49] did the bottom side of that new sink have that black stuff that look like undercoating to help deaden sound/noise [16:49] Urchlay: got it ? [16:49] god damn it! someone registered my christian name, blasphemy [16:49] Pig_Pen: no. [16:50] downwater: eh? yeah... haven't got an HP scanner though. Maybe I will in the future [16:50] Pig_Pen: its got like a water heater style covering over the metal on the under side. [16:50] its like a greeny grey colour. [16:51] ok, no matter what color it is, it does the same thing, keeps the sound down when you turn on the water [16:51] yeah [16:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [16:51] Urchlay: now i have to fix cups pb... maybe tomorrow :) [16:51] bye all [16:51] downwater (i=1000@ram94-8-88-165-232-7.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [16:52] alienBOB: by the way, i definately enjoy tightvnc, i'd say to a much larger degree than realvnc, the code optimizations for speedy rendering is clearly demonstrated. Just thought i'd let you know. [16:53] merp (n=merp@136.sub-75-216-27.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] i always go for tightvnc if i need a vnc daemon. [16:55] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:56] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [16:56] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [17:01] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) joined ##slackware. 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[17:08] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:11] i definately enjoy [17:11] as far as running the daemon, not sure [17:11] just like the client interface [17:14] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:17] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:18] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [17:22] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.75.51) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428916.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:22] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.94.65) left irc: "Leaving." [17:23] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:24] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [17:29] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:29] ok.. lets see if .29.2 fixes this.. [17:29] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [17:29] a quick question regarding virtualization: let's say I have a device that uses the ISA bus, and software to communicate with the device, written for MS-DOS. Would it be possible to use virtualbox to create a virtual machine that runs ms-dos, and then install the software on this virtual machine to communicate with the device, even though I don't have drivers for the device on the host operating system? [17:30] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:32] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [17:32] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-144-112-117.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:32] Ekc_ (n=iskar@77-85-10-1.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [17:33] MidasManchu (n=andrew@ip68-100-194-47.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] "the ext4 code in the Linux kernel version 2.6.28 will often clear the contents of the file before the crash, but never write the new version, thus losing the contents of the file entirely" [17:34] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [17:34] that sounds kinda scary. does anyone know if there were any major changes to that aspect of ext4 in .29 [17:34] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:36] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-155-175-207.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:36] v3gard: imho it should work. [17:36] My best advice is to try it out. [17:38] v3gard: whats on the ISA slot? [17:38] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.247.120) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:39] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.67.253) joined ##slackware. [17:41] pupit: a 20 year old lab instrument to measure the amount of carbonic acid in a bottle containing beer/soda [...] [17:42] bartas (n=bartas@siec.interblock.pl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:42] pupit: the instrument did, however, cost a fortune when it was new and is actually working better then similar equipment that can be bought today :P [17:43] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-247-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] maybe 20 years was a bit rough.. 15 years perhaps [17:43] v3gard: i thought it was some communication device [17:44] v3gard: as Stx sad, it should work [17:44] u need some good guide ofr instaling most recent msdos [17:44] grazymax (n=grazymax@host188-130-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:45] even though I don't have a driver for the host OS? [17:45] ofr-on [17:45] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427949.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:45] amazon10x: if ext4 is as bad as all that then i would stay away [17:45] v3gard: yes, because it will list it in guest as a device [17:46] stick with ext3 amazon10x [17:46] ajuna (n=ajuna@97-126-211-220.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] #dd-wrt [17:46] v3gard: try it with virtualbox, if that doesnt help try it with vmware, i have both... :) [17:46] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [17:47] alright.. I'll try that out :) [17:47] the ISA bus still exists but no slaots anymore IIRC [17:47] is there any way to get slackware to see 6 gigs of ram or does it even matter? [17:48] slots [17:48] Action: nille_ waits for kde4.2.3 that should come tomorow [17:48] thanks for your input guys [17:48] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:48] ;) [17:48] that's a 32-bit issue right? [17:48] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-11-83.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:48] ok.. updating to .29.2-smp makes the screen go blank :-/ [17:49] eg, no KDE with effects [17:49] ajuna: you would have to rebuild your kernel to support up to 64 gigs of ram, there are three options Off, 4 gigs and 64 gigs [17:49] alienBOB: going to .29.2-smp just made everything worse.. i was still on .1-smp before :-/ [17:50] so just recompiling the kernel is all I need to do? [17:50] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.75.51) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:50] yup, i am fairly certain [17:51] okay cool. Is there even any advantage of using 64 bit OS verses 32 bit? besides more ram [17:51] you will find that feature in menuconfig in "Processor type and features" [17:51] okay thanks [17:51] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [17:51] macavity: strange. No trace of an X desktop? Or does it go blank when KDE tries to activate the compositor? [17:53] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:53] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.48.179) joined ##slackware. [17:54] caalope (n=caalope@208.253.106.122) joined ##slackware. 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[17:57] *anyhow goddamnit [17:57] alienBOB: this is stock -current [17:57] Ekc_ (n=iskar@77-85-10-1.btc-net.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:58] alienBOB: i dont repport bugs against things that are not in -current yet ;-) [17:58] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [17:58] the only non-slackware package i have is yakuake [17:59] anyhow.. going to get cola now, or i will kill someone [17:59] whats the effect of 'nscd --invalidate passwd' in a linux system? [18:01] do you guys always compile your kernels from scratch using the various 'make config' options or do you use another method? [18:01] goatdog (n=goatdog@74.4.34.143) joined ##slackware. [18:01] like package updates? [18:01] ajuna: I don't upgrade my kernels at al that much these days [18:02] i use menuconfig, trim off the fat and build in such a way that an initrd is not required to boot, the rest of what i need is built as modules [18:02] if I need to make a disk copy using dd, how can i write it to a fat filesys? the files are too big. [18:03] is there any way to keep your kernel config file so you have all of your option from the previous version? [18:03] make oldconfig [18:03] in addition to seeing the new options or changes [18:03] U-Neeks (n=hell@201-88-28-101.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [18:04] again, make oldconfig it will ask about new features, then run make menuconfig and take one more look to see if everything is the way you want it [18:04] ajuna: just copy your old .config over and run make oldconfig [18:04] or, as i do: zcat /proc/config.gz > /path/to/source/.config && make oldconfig [18:04] http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=127 , about nscd :) [18:05] afk now [18:05] Then how did you type that macavity? [18:06] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [18:07] man, i need to find a usb stick to install this from [18:07] i need to stop losing mine [18:07] gm152 (n=quassel@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [18:08] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-92-114-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [18:09] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.48.179) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:09] what's the biggest limiting factor of compile speed? [18:09] i guess it'd be between i/o and cpu, right? [18:09] cpu i think [18:10] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.67.253) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:10] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [18:10] hey guys [18:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:11] hi [18:11] Ekc (n=iskar@77-85-10-1.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [18:11] hi [18:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:11] ajuna, CPU is certainly going to be the biggest requirement, but there is something to be said with disk I/O as well. Especially if you are compiling a lot of small files (like with the kernel), rather than a few large ones. On my build machine I compile out of a directory mounted on RAM [18:11] Just rebooted and had to wait for my harddrives to be check right when I was in the middle of something - not pleased. [18:11] are most people here using kde on their slack? because slack doesn't have gnome, right? [18:11] do you know a free online storage service that provide a script to upload stuff from console? [18:12] how did you create a directory on your ram? [18:12] Thursap: i remember reading about one on reddit. i'll see if i can find it [18:12] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [18:12] amazon10x: I used to use kde - but since kde4 in currrent im back to good old slackware -and yes it doesn't have gnome anymore - but there is dropline etc [18:12] amazon10x: there are quite a few other choices on slackware too, I use fluxbox for my wm [18:13] twold: what style you using? [18:13] hmm, that's interesting. i'm about to nuke my slack and start over, so maybe i'll get one of those *box wms [18:13] compl3x: I use something I threw together years ago, I don't remember what it was based on [18:14] I run wmii, could never live without a tiling wm. I think I'll write my own: vidtwm, vi desktop and tiling window manager [18:14] http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/hack/recovery.html [18:14] IrquiM (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [18:17] ajuna, You can mount a directory as tmpfs, which uses system memory rather than the physical disk. The following would allocate 200 MB of RAM to /mnt/tmp: mount -t tmpfs -o size=2o0m tmpfs /mnt/tmp [18:17] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [18:17] grazymax (n=grazymax@host80-157-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Success [18:18] You can mount all of /tmp on tmpfs, which would work well when using SlackBuilds since they default to building out of there anyway [18:18] tmpfs is a file system for the ram? [18:19] normally when you mount you have to give /dev/hdx and point to /mnt/hdx or whateve rright? [18:19] how does the command know you're wanting to mount ram? [18:20] -t tmpfs [18:21] grazymax (n=grazymax@host112-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:22] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:23] How can I copy paste from Eterm? [18:23] I can paste with middle button - but can't work out copying.. [18:23] left-click and drag doesn't work? [18:24] ? as in selecting the text? [18:24] compl3x: yeah [18:24] us34 (n=us34@83.254.191.151) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:24] traditional UNIX-style copy/paste, you don't have a "copy" action you do, it's just that whatever's selected is "automatically" copied [18:24] KDE's different (more like windows by default) [18:24] yeah - doesn't work tho' [18:24] at all? [18:25] Nope [18:25] like, even highlighting some text in your Eterm and middle-clicking in the same Eterm, fails? [18:25] No - that works - sorry should have been more specific - I mean copying text from Eterm to another app [18:26] what app are you running in the Eterm? just a shell? some stuff like links "takes over" the mouse, and you have to shift-left-drag to select [18:26] just bash [18:26] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:26] unfortunately whether that can be made to work or not, depends on the other app... what is it? [18:27] Firefox at the moment - as a test [18:27] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03347.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:27] are you middle-clicking in firefox, or trying to use its edit/paste function (aka crtl-V I guess)? [18:27] haha my bad :/ [18:27] cheers Urchlay :p [18:29] basically there are at least 2 completely different copy/paste mechanisms: the standard X-style select/middleclick, and firefox's (and other GTK/gnome apps') ctrl-c/ctrl-v copy/paste (which also exists in KDE apps, appears to work the same, but is really AFAIK a different mechanism) [18:29] Oh right - thought they were inter-twined :/ cheers urchlay :) [18:30] the one annoyance about pasting from a terminal by middle-clicking in firefox is, for most terms, if the screen has scrolled since the selection was made, nothing gets pasted [18:30] yeah [18:30] like if I were to select a URL in this IRC window, and somebody said something in the channel before I could middle-click on FF, it gets unselected [18:31] hmm [18:31] Funny thing is that Shift-Insert does sometimes mix up? [18:31] bit annoying [18:31] I get around that by using an irssi script that captures URLs and opens them in firefox tabs for me [18:31] I've once looked up a better explanation but I keep forgetting it. [18:31] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@20150128051.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:31] caalope (n=caalope@208.253.106.122) left ##slackware. [18:31] heh i just use xchat - quick an easy [18:31] other people get around it by using a fancy terminal program that recognizes URLs and makes them clickable (urxvt does this) [18:32] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h73n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [18:32] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:32] Urchlay: in XFCE's Terminal, Gnome's terminal en recent Konsoles you can right-click on URLs. [18:32] yah, or x-chat, if you like that (I tried it & didn't like it all that much) [18:32] Ah too late :-) [18:32] Urchlay: What do you mean? if you select a text and the terminal scrolls it gets unselected? I've never experienced that [18:32] Urchlay: I use it but removed everything but the text input and the actually message view [18:32] Urchlay: yakuake doesn't do that. You have to highlight the url and then copy and paste. [18:32] cmk_zzz: well it definitely happens in plain ol' xterm (which is what I use) [18:33] sakura is an xterminal that recognises URLs and opens them in firefox no matter if it is irssi or any other app running inside it [18:33] Urchlay: i'm in xterm/irssi at the moment and it seems to work fine, wonder why [18:33] sakura? never heard of it. [18:33] sweet, it's on sbo. [18:33] irssi itself might be doing something to help out. Lemme try something... http://google.com [18:33] ok.. KDE back online :P [18:34] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [18:34] (somebody say something) [18:34] macavity: Yay [18:34] hmm [18:34] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-92-114-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:34] hm, nope, it pasted fine. [18:35] NetEcho (i=NetEcho@unaffiliated/netecho) left irc: [18:35] maybe what I'm talking about is only an issue with old xterms... but it definitely did exist at one time, and annoyed me bad enough to make me write a url-catcher script for irssi [18:35] hey guys, in general do you tend to use slackbuilds or compile it yourself from scratch so to speak when you install apps and etc [18:35] gm152 (n=quassel@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:35] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: Excess Flood [18:35] which vm programs do you guys prefer or recommend? [18:36] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:36] Stutteringmatt: slackbuilds. If SBo doesn't have a slackbuild for what I want, I tend to write my own and submit it to them [18:36] Urchlay: have you been using slackware for a long time? [18:36] definately slackbuils. Fully agree with above speaker [18:37] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:37] since... 1996? [18:37] Action: cmk_zzz wonders we he always type slackbuils instead of slackbuilds. Never misses [18:37] nice, ever used it on a laptop? [18:37] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:37] the other day I typed "sblackbuild" and it took me 5 mins to notice [18:37] lol [18:38] Stutteringmatt: yep. There's a slack 12.2 laptop right next to me... but it's an old (2002 model) laptop, I don't know much about modern laptop stuff like hibernate/suspend [18:38] Do you have a lot of battery issues? [18:38] my laptop (running slack 12.2) is sucking all the battery in no time [18:39] maybe i'll try a pxe install on this [18:39] it takes like less than 10 minutes for it to drop under 75 % [18:40] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:40] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:40] Stutteringmatt: How olds the laptop - could be a battery issue [18:40] it's not even a year [18:40] a dell latitude e6500 [18:40] Stutteringmatt: do you know about powertop? [18:40] my laptop battery doesn't hold the charge either but .. it's "ancient" [18:40] alienBOB: X dies on me when i vt-switch to the console [18:41] i know about powertop but I've never gotten deep into it [18:41] Stutteringmatt: well like I said, it's from 2002... so the battery was pretty lame when new, then got even lamer... then I lost it moving, so it only runs off AC power now [18:41] I run 12.1 on a toshiba, had to upgrage kernel because of bug with suspend/hibernation. My battery issue is because of lousy battery. lesswatts.org has some good info as well [18:41] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.230.35) joined ##slackware. [18:41] I never even tried to make this thing hibernate or suspend [18:41] http://www.toshiba-europe.com/bv/computers/products/notebooks/tecra780dvd/index.shtm <-- mine ;) [18:41] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:42] (slackware 9.0 was on it for years, no real support for it there) [18:42] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [18:43] lol, BP{k} I like the line on there, With double the solutions: Not one, but two USB ports - so you're virtually unlimited in your peripheral links. [18:43] one thing I did notice: the battery would go from 100% to about 5% in an hour... then it'd take another hour to drain from 5% to being completely dead [18:43] huhn :) [18:43] sort of like those window progress bars that get stuck at 99% [18:44] firebird619: hehe, don't forget the "5.1 bilion byte hard disk" [18:44] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [18:44] haha, yeah, the latest and greatest. :) [18:44] ajuna (n=ajuna@97-126-211-220.slkc.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [18:44] ajuna (n=ajuna@97-126-211-220.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] It's amazing how at that time, that was a huge amount of space. [18:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [18:45] i want to grab all the packages from a slackware mirror so that i can do a local ftp install. i presume wget is the best way to do this? [18:45] 5 billion divided by 8 = six hundred twenty-five million [18:46] also, is there a flag i can give wget that will make it download three things at a time rather than one? [18:46] BP{k}: I was probably getting a laptop this week (private party) but then the guy called today and said he was using again because something happened to his other one, so he couldn't sell it. I bet you anything he sold it to someone else or something like that. His story didn't sound right. [18:46] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:46] lucasgomes (i=c8e65201@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4810919673c67be1) joined ##slackware. [18:47] hey Pig_Pen. how are you? [18:48] good [18:48] v4nelle (n=van@adsl46-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:48] I remember upgrading from single to double density floppies... single was 90K per disk side, double was 180K, and I was like "wow, it'll take me forever to fill one of these disks" [18:48] lol [18:49] well I had a 300 baud modem [18:49] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host235-215-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: ""Muovendosi cambia" - Sbancor" [18:51] my first PC had win98 and i used 1.4 meg floppies to store stuff on, i remember when i bought my first CDRW those 700 meg CDRs were nice, now i have a DVDR and i think a DVDR blank can hold 4.7 gigs [18:51] 56k modem :D [18:53] so almost 200x as fast as my first modem... lucky bastard :) [18:54] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427949.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:54] hey [18:54] (but this wasn't a "PC", it was an Atari 800XL) [18:54] My first PC was a pile of rocks. I stored stuff on the ground. I used my brother as a modem. [18:54] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:55] Action: compl3x has switched to irssi - likes it [18:55] cmk_zzz: you had rocks? You were lucky... [18:55] ;) [18:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgqEIp2YmtE what really happens when you use a 56k modem [18:56] Ficthe (n=grieve@cpe-24-92-71-240.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:56] A_666_A (n=sidmario@201-92-114-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:56] bwahahaha! [18:56] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-92-114-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:57] So what did you have to do macavity? The VT switch bug is indeed a known one in relation to those errors [19:00] IRonOZzy (n=gts@189-041-40-167.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:01] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h73n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:02] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062133109.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:04] amazon10x: use sbopkg [19:04] amazon10x: or rsync it. [19:04] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:05] grazymax (n=grazymax@host112-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:05] is there anyway to ignore quit messages in irsii? [19:05] compl3x: yeah, tho I can't remember what it is right now [19:05] close you eyes :) [19:05] but... you'll end up still trying to talk to people who aren't there any more [19:06] hmm fair point :p [19:06] Okay - is there a way to remove the bar above the input bov saying my user name and channel? [19:06] box* [19:06] maybe? [19:06] I mean probably, but I dunno [19:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:07] If I knew what it was called - would probably make it easier to google it XD [19:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-120-196.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:07] "status bar" maybe? [19:07] hmm ill give it a shot [19:07] use /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS [19:07] gooph (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] http://irssi.org/documentation/tips [19:08] grazymax (n=grazymax@host170-158-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:08] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Cheers guys [19:09] hm [19:09] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "leaving" [19:10] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] there was a windows app i used years ago for yahoo chat that had some cool features, i cant remember the name but the joins quits and other info was scrolled across the top of the screen so it was not in the chat buffer [19:11] is it a fun (and worth?) excersise to recompile all (most?) slackware packages? Will it gain me anything? [19:11] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-155-175-207.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:11] except long beard and gray hairs, i mean [19:11] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:11] i don't know how fun recompiling a distribution is and I doubt you'd notice much difference at all [19:12] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Laters [=" [19:12] Nick change: A_666_A -> sidmario [19:12] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] on top of that, you'll want to have either a VM or a separate and clean system to do it [19:13] so, hard work which isn't much fun and little gain. Sounds like what I am doing every day! [19:14] i tried current for a weekend, it ran great except for kde-4.2.2 which seemed a little slower and more of a resource hog than kde-3.5.10. i think the kde team needs to work on it more, but kde-4.x does have some nice features and has plenty of eye candy to impress those that need the eye candy [19:15] i keep an extra disk partition just for testing stuff out like that so i did not have to wipe my main slackware install [19:15] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [19:15] I spent a couple weeks recompiling slack 9.1 with -O3 and -fstack-protector or whatever it's called [19:15] about halfway through, slack 10.0 was released... [19:16] Hehe [19:16] Ah, good, so if I start recompiling 12.2 now, we'll have slackware 13 out in a flash [19:16] I wouldn't personally recompile the whole system. Obviously rebuild the kernel and suit it to your hardware, then focus on the big programs that might actually benefit from some optimization. [19:17] the stack protector might have been useful (turn remote code execution exploits into simple denial of service) but the -O3 actually broke a couple things (curses, for one) [19:17] its like washing your car, it will always make it rain [19:17] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:18] yeah, and lighting a cig after ordering food will make your food show up (while you're still smoking & can't eat) [19:18] defcon1 (n=localhos@82-41-92-172.cable.ubr02.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:18] Urchlay: I use that same trick for getting the train to arrive. :D [19:19] does it work when you're doing it on purpose? [19:19] Yes. [19:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-247-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [19:19] Urchlay: -O3 is considered unstable... [19:20] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] bojevnik_ (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] Nick change: pizdets -> pizzledizzle [19:20] Though it also depends on you processor. Some CPUs have better optimizations than others, and a lot of older ones aren't going to get much better than mtune=i686 anyway. [19:20] Urchlay: -Os is also a lot faster in all but the corner cases anyways.. [19:20] bojevnik_ (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:20] macavity: well yeah. But I'm the type who wants to know why, so I just had to try it... [19:21] -Os is probably faster just because the code's smaller & more of it fits in the L1/L2 caches [19:21] and because you get fewer pagefaults [19:21] right [19:21] and they perceptually start faster becuse of the shorter load time [19:22] i wish i could find a copy of IBM Warp3 just to try out in vbox [19:22] it should be about like nt4 ?? [19:23] when I was moving I found a box without half the install floppies to some version of OS/2 [19:23] er, with half... and without the other half :( [19:23] Pig_Pen: will OS/2 Warp4 do? [19:23] yeah [19:23] PM? [19:23] also an empty cardboard box that said "OS/2 Warp" and was for the CD-ROM version... but no actual CD in the box [19:24] sure [19:24] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-88-24.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [19:25] Urchlay, I think I found that same thing upstairs the last time I was cleaning things out. I don't know if it had the CDs, but all 14 or so floppies were there. I was debating on holding onto it, but I couldn't think of any real reason to. [19:26] if all the floppies had been there, I would have hung onto mine [19:26] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:26] somewhere I've got a 7-floppy set of install discs for AT&T System V UNIX, the variety that ran on the PC6386 [19:26] Plus, as I recall, boxed OS/2 was going for like $8 on eBay at the time anyway. If for some insane reason I ever wanted to play with it, it was cheap enough [19:27] (or was it system 7? can't remember, but got manuals for both...) [19:27] this was AT&T UNIX without the Berkeley stuff merged back in: no TCP/IP or sockets interface at all [19:28] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] grazymax (n=grazymax@host170-158-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [19:30] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@20150128051.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] goatdog (n=goatdog@74.4.34.143) left irc: "Leaving" [19:32] grazymax (n=grazymax@host228-153-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:33] no networking? what can you do with it? just manipulate local files and run local apps? seems like an OS would go insane from loneleyness that way [19:35] ah shiny -current up on my latop \o/ [19:35] i guess with tape drives you could move files and things from one PC to another = "never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon full of digital tapes" - author unknown [19:36] kde4>? BP{k} >? [19:36] it does look great [19:36] Pig_Pen, You are thinking in way too modern of terms. In the real early days everything was serial. [19:37] eh? [19:37] that was before my time, the only serial hardware i ever owned was a 56l modem when my winmodem would not work with Linux [19:37] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] 56k [19:37] Pig_Pen: negative. no KDE installed on the laptop. it's too slow for that I think + space issues. [19:37] kevlinux (n=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:38] other than kde, current is as stable as 12.2 i think [19:38] I had the dubious honor of transitioning from an old VMS VAX system to a Win2K based one a few years back. Serial lines and multiplexters from the server down to the VTs. [19:40] Of course, the up side of that was I got to keep the server and a few of the terminals. :) Not that they had much practical use, though for awhile I was using one of the VT420 terminals with agetty on my server. Was pretty nice actually, though SSH is certainly a more sane method of headless administration for a home network. [19:41] i only read an artical about VAX once, it sounded like quite a powerful system for its time also primitive, [19:41] article* i need spell check in irssi [19:43] dartmouth (n=dartmout@24.25.172.165) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] It was certainly a strange system. To be perfectly honest, I don't think I ever really "got" it. I was able to run it for the last few months of it's life with the documentation guiding me, but it was mostly self sufficient at that point too. We are talking an uptime of 10+ years here, not exactly a kettle you need to watch. [19:44] ajuna (n=ajuna@97-126-211-220.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:46] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:47] Pig_Pen: I had an spellcheck plugin in irssr for awhile, but it couldn't keep up with my *illiterate ness* :P [19:47] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "need to nuke unkillable process..." [19:47] /s/irssr/irssi [19:47] nille_ (n=nille@c-d92772d5.36-62-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] Can anyone what the gtk equivalent of yakuake is called? [19:50] s/anyone/anyone remember/ [19:50] Ugh...I had it on my machine for awhile too...what was it... [19:50] ah "Tilda" [19:51] BP{k}: i have no idea, but i will say sakura is nice, has a right click menu to change prefrences, font size and colors, [19:51] chopp: did you try the compat wireless? it doesn't work at all [19:51] same crap [19:51] it doesn't seem like AP is fully enabled still [19:52] antiwire: It works fine on my laptop, but on my AP it segfaults!!! [19:52] chopp: did you have to patch still? [19:53] antiwire: using the compat no, it's enabled. [19:53] write(1, "nl80211: Failed to set interface "..., 76nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 3: -16 (Device or resource busy) ) = 76 write(1, "nl80211: Failed to set interface "..., 52nl80211: Failed to set interface wlan1 into AP mode) = 52 [19:53] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:54] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-88-24.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] antiwire: actually I was getting something like that myself. Worked after reboot though. Then as soon as the lappy associated it segfaulted. [19:55] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.111.26) joined ##slackware. [19:55] grazymax (n=grazymax@host228-153-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:57] v4nelle (n=van@adsl46-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:57] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:58] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [19:58] grazymax (n=grazymax@host178-155-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:04] line 519 of ath5k/base.c is where AP is enabled. [20:04] chopp: it was hostapd-git that was causing the problem [20:04] 0.6.9 works [20:04] sort of... [20:05] really!? no segfault? [20:05] yep [20:05] working [20:05] in WPA-PSK2 mode though [20:05] i haven't tried EAP yet [20:06] going to try to associate now and hostapd is spamming the term with unknown vendor specific information element ignored (vendor OUI 00:10:18 len=5) [20:06] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] well working with your 2413 just even with PSK is some improvement anyway. [20:06] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:06] chopp: yeah totally [20:07] time to see if i can actually associate though [20:07] brb [20:07] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "mIRC" [20:07] note to self: buy UPS batteries [20:08] yowza [20:08] great for uptime [20:08] Urchlay: do you sleep or are you an android? [20:08] Because I don't sleep, and you're always on. [20:08] I sleep, I just sleep irregularly [20:08] yeah same here [20:08] jdetring (n=jay@76-200-121-139.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] weird [20:09] they should keep people who can only sleep 4 hours at a time as opers here ^_^ [20:09] well I slept like 12hrs last night, to make up for only sleeping 4-6 hrs before that [20:09] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:10] didn't feel drunk any more when I went to bed, but undoubtedly the alcohol in my system contributed to that [20:10] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:11] foureyes779 (n=theron_g@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [20:12] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:13] took advantage of power outage to upgrade mozilla package (had 3 windows, 30+ tabs open before power outage) [20:13] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [20:13] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) joined ##slackware. [20:14] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:14] complete and utter mayhem [20:14] segfault that took out why whole system [20:14] my* [20:14] it segfaulted upon association [20:15] outch [20:15] crap [20:16] really ought to upgrade this box to slamd64 12.2 [20:17] (I suppose if I do, slamd64 12.3 or 13 will get released like 2 days later...) [20:17] antiwire: lets just get ath9k cards. :P [20:17] chopp: at least we both had the same problem, but yeah...good idea [20:18] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.111.26) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:19] Pig_Pen: you around ? [20:19] Ficthe (n=grieve@cpe-24-92-71-240.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:19] antiwire: I'd decided to do that for awhile now, but at least mine is working with my patched kernel for now anyway. [20:19] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:20] grazymax (n=grazymax@host178-155-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [20:20] yeah, hi foureyes779 [20:20] Pig_Pen: 10m & 11m are open to japan right now [20:21] grazymax (n=grazymax@host151-159-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:21] i put up a new antenna since we last talked, i have a maco V58 five eighths wave [20:21] Pig_Pen: nice, im using my 20M extended double zepp on 10M also. [20:22] let me check the dopplar radar, we had thunderstorms in the area today, hopefully they moved off by now [20:22] Pig_Pen: ok, you located in Ohio ? [20:23] i will turn my radio on, but chances are i will get a bunch of static from the thunderstorms [20:23] oklahoma [20:23] aah, ok [20:24] the last I saw they were floating around 28400-28425MHZ [20:24] the DX is not very strong where i am, it has been off & on lately here [20:24] rworkman (n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] Pig_Pen: we finally started getting something here just a few days ago. today is the first time I have heard Japan in a long time. [20:25] _chess_ (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess/x-7295101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] Pig_Pen: the last time was in September [20:26] hm. All the slack/SBo devs just disappeared at once [20:26] they know something we don't? :) [20:26] i am checking out 28.4 & up, its quiet here with the sound of static crashes from the thunderstorms off in the distance [20:26] Pig_Pen: you know abt the dxsummit webpasge ? [20:27] dxsummit? ill google it [20:27] Pig_Pen http://www.dxsummit.fi/ [20:27] yeah, got it, thanks [20:27] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:28] vbatts (n=vbatts@216.23.247.74) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:29] we been getting a lot of thunderstorms here lately (typical springtime weather) i usually wait until the weather gets good to DX, static crashes just fill my receive with noise [20:29] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-192-126.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] natural_mind (n=vbatts@rrcs-67-78-226-122.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:30] Pig_Pen: that sucks. we had some weird stuff goin on this weekend, got so bad I had to shutdown. [20:30] Nick change: natural_mind -> vbatts [20:31] thats all i been doing, keeping my coax connected to a ground wire just in case my antenna gets hit by lightning [20:31] IRonOZzy (n=gts@189-041-40-167.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left ##slackware. [20:31] by june the weather should be more favorable [20:31] Pig_Pen: we are lucky up here, we dont get T-storms very often. maybe once every 5 years [20:32] here we get thunderstorms from march/april until mid june when it starts getting hot [20:32] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:33] jacjAX (n=gts@189-041-40-167.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:33] every year it is like that here, we have thunderstorm/tornado season in the spring, then hot until fall, then winter [20:34] Pig_Pen: I was in Colcord, up in the NE portion of OK abt 10 years ago. I remember the way the rain would come down like someone pouring a bucket of water across the windsheild [20:34] jdetring_ (n=jay@76-200-121-139.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] yup, it does rain in torrents sometimes driven by wind [20:36] Pig_Pen: the first time I heard one of those tornado sirens go off, I got the heck out of Oklahoma [20:36] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:36] jdetring (n=jay@76-200-121-139.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:36] Pig_Pen: that was enough for me [20:36] just make sure your have a pair of concrete shoes handy :P [20:37] Pig_Pen: the weird part was the way the rain just came out of nowhere. no warning nothing. [20:37] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:37] Pig_Pen: no drizzle first, just dry pavement, then "SPLASH", instand rain [20:37] acidchild (i=spazter@noobfarm.org) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:37] they happen on occasion, but it is not real bad, your more likely to get hurt in a traffic accident than get hurt by a tornado, i been living here 28 years and only seen two with my own eyes and they were both a couple of miles away [20:38] rain coming down, with the sun in your eyes at the same time [20:38] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:39] Pig_Pen: you in tornado alley ? [20:39] yup [20:40] I was up near the Arkansas border, btwn Colcord Ok and Decatur AR [20:40] i been up near there, miami Okla & vinita okla [20:41] Pig_Pen: the closest I got was the siren [20:41] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:41] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:42] sounds like an air raid siren [20:42] Pig_Pen: that was too close.... [20:42] heh [20:42] I was living in my old Dodge van at the time, traveling around a bit. [20:42] my dad hated those things, he would try to sleep though tornado warnings and mom used to panic :D [20:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:43] i would try to be alert to keep mom from panicing i would open a window just a little to listen because you can hear a tornado coming from a long way off [20:44] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-188-30.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] grazymax (n=grazymax@host151-159-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [20:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:44] i have slackware 12.2 and i upgraded my kernel manually to 2.6.29, but now the hal automounter doesnt work [20:44] grazymax (n=grazymax@host190-153-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:44] Pig_Pen: is it all the destruction that you hear, or the wind sound ? [20:45] chowabunga: how did you configure your kernel? [20:45] with the original 12.2 kernel it worked fine for my external 250gb usb ntfs [20:45] mostly wind, they sound like a freighttrain engine, the destruction would make noise too [20:45] i did make oldconfig, but even that didnt work with hal [20:46] chowabunga: did you copy the running config into the kernel source directory? [20:46] of course [20:46] Pig_Pen: wow, that would be a trip to hear something like that [20:46] chowabunga: of course, how did you do it? [20:46] Pig_Pen: especially if it is coming up behind you.... [20:47] one of 5 ways, i dont remember [20:47] i did it though [20:47] chowabunga: you don't remember how you did it but you did? [20:47] why would i do make oldconfig withuot the old config [20:47] i may have done it a bunch of ways, copy from /boot copy from proc copy from the slackpack [20:48] doesnt matter now that was weeks ago, and the make oldconfig onto 2.6.29 made an unstable kernel [20:48] the one i watched from my front porch tore through a stock yard where they auction cattle and horses, it hit that thing and sheet metal and trees were flying everywhere, i just sat there and watched, mom was pacing back & forth from the front door to the telephone wondering what to do, when there is nothing you can do except watch and listen and take cover if it gets too close, but this one did not get anywhere close [20:48] until i removed a bunch of crap i dont need...even then the usb drive didnt work with hal and the oldconfig [20:49] ok, i am going 10/7 until this kernel issue is resolved [20:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Pig_Pen: later [20:50] take care foureyes779 keep in touch maybe we can make radio contact this summer [20:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:52] lsusb sees the drive [20:52] maybe i can mount it manually...but i liked automount heh [20:55] grazymax (n=grazymax@host190-153-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:55] /proc/partitions doesnt list it though hmm [20:56] do you remember what you changed in the kernel config? [20:56] like i said, it didnt work even before i changed stuff [20:56] but it worked with the stock compiled kernel? [20:56] right [20:56] i think i have a solution [20:56] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.204.154) left irc: "Leaving" [20:57] Floops (n=baihu@shellium/member/floops) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:57] you think? [20:58] lucasgomes (i=c8e65201@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4810919673c67be1) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [20:58] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] greetings and salutations [20:58] greetings andarius, how are you? [20:58] m__ (n=m@97-117-50-115.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] salutations firebird619. i am well. you ? [20:59] doing very well, thank you. [20:59] PaddyMac (n=Pat@dialup-4.153.200.2.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] urxvt (i=1000@c-24-6-14-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [21:06] PaddyMac1 (n=Pat@dialup-4.153.200.32.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] do i need to update fuse? [21:08] grazymax (n=grazymax@host169-48-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:08] i've never had to do anything special [21:09] and you are on 2.6.29? 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[21:32] i'll recommend [21:33] but now i need to go to the university [21:33] cheers:) [21:33] i need a place to start learning how to create just basic websites, starting with html then css and eventually php [21:33] just start with php [21:34] I would look at the other website languages as well [21:34] I just assumed that I'd need to know html and css before php though [21:34] i recommend you a book of Jeffry Zeldman [21:34] or Eric Meyer [21:34] and their sites: http://alistapart.com/ [21:34] meyerweb.com [21:34] well you will need to know html with php [21:34] meh, i learned enough css and php in a week [21:35] w3c.org if i'm not mistaken [21:35] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [21:36] kitche: does php negate CSS or are they usually used together, along with the html within the php code? [21:37] antiwire: here is your first lesson in HTML http://imagebin.org/48007 [21:37] together [21:37] Action: kitche knows nothing about php really [21:37] [21:37] never truly got into php [21:37] thats XML Pig_Pen [21:38] antiwire: You should try to keep each of them separated. You can mix and match, but that is not considered good practice. [21:38] does anyone know what the META key is on kde4? [21:39] html is for content, css is for displaying the content, and php is for making the content dynamic [21:39] you need all 3 [21:39] ^ that actually clears up a lot of my questions [21:39] capone: umm the super key I do believe [21:40] html and xml are so damn close to being the same thing that they are interchangable [21:40] .... [21:40] html is an xml, but xml is not html [21:41] kitche: you are right duh i thought i ruled that one out, but it is :p [21:41] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:41] chowabunga: As someone who is totally new to web design, where would you suggest I start? [21:42] html [21:42] start by printing hello world in proper html tags using php, then add a echo for the stylesheet line, then work on css, testing its capabilities [21:42] thanks guys [21:43] Action: andarius would advise to learn html. then learn to style it with css. then make it dynamic with php [21:43] css is amazing, your html output should be very simple with the css doing the formatting [21:43] html cant really be learned....most of it isnt applicable anymore with css [21:44] ? [21:44] you just need so actual page layout should be left to CSS and just the general mark up, like header/paragraph/body should be done with the html? [21:44] well, that is best practice html? Which you can learn? [21:44] urd [21:44] yes i mean [21:44] urd=yes right? [21:44] hehe [21:45] one off error detected ;) [21:45] off by one [21:45] gayml !! [21:45] merp (n=merp@136.sub-75-216-27.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:45] gay moose larva? [21:46] its just a joke .. [21:46] no you [21:47] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] php.net has good documentation [21:47] and lots of examples posted by users for each function [21:47] thanks for the guidance guys [21:48] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-212-18.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-188-30.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:49] antiwire: you can check here: www.html.net, there's free tutorials there for html and css. [21:50] i'm making a nice list of info sites from you guys, awesome [21:51] i've always been more on the administration side of the operation than on the actual creative side [21:51] not that some of my administration tasks haven't required creativity ;) [21:52] there's also http://www.w3schools.com/html/DEFAULT.asp, this may have been mentioned above. [21:52] well now, you can write a php frontend to all your administrative tasks [21:52] isn't there supposed to be a usb install readme around here somewhere? i can't seem to find it and i know i was looking at it sometime earlier today [21:52] Action: cmk_zzz wonders why he randomly throws in commans in every sentence [21:52] *commas [21:53] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-79-151.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] firebird619: yeah that's where i started [21:53] Heya,folks..How's everyone? [21:53] dont, you, love, c.o,m,m,a,s? [21:53] amazon10x: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [21:53] antiwire: I've been working with html and css lately, coding in vim, once you get going with it and have the basics, it's really quite easy to add onto it from there. [21:54] Hey MLanden. How are you? I'm doing very well. [21:54] superGear (i=1000@71-212-187-149.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] also found in the usb-and-pxe-installers dir in the root of the dvd and cd [21:54] Doin' great, firebird619 [21:54] :) [21:56] andarius: that's odd, that file seems to be missing from the two mirrors that i checked [21:56] antiwire: Here's a short list of basic html tags as well: http://www.davesite.com/webstation/html/tag_ref.shtml [21:56] well it should be in them. may want to poke the mirror admin [21:57] http://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [21:58] amazon10x: i dont doubt you. just saying it should be there. the mirror admins are the ones to speak with [21:59] if you want current it should be there also --> ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [22:00] yeah, just grabbed that. thanks [22:00] yw [22:01] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062133109.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:02] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] Nick change: vbatts -> natural_mind [22:03] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] Nick change: vbatts_ -> vbatts [22:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] defcon1 (n=localhos@82-41-92-172.cable.ubr02.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:06] good night [22:06] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] night macavity [22:06] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.85.12) joined ##slackware. [22:09] 1/win 3 [22:09] was up [22:09] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] hey nille_. How are you? [22:10] i'm fiane thanks and you? [22:10] heya,nille_ [22:10] doing very well, thank you. [22:10] s/fiane/fine [22:10] hi MLanden [22:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:11] i'm waiting for the kde4.3.3 release today/tomorrow [22:12] wow 4.3.3. things are moving fast. I wonder how they keep it up. [22:13] hot chicks, lots of hot chicks [22:14] Yeah, that hopefully would keep me up [22:15] well it's monthly releases [22:16] http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule [22:17] so it is 4.2.3 then. Still nice schedule, very organised [22:18] ohh i can't type i guess [22:18] i meant 4.2.3 [22:18] gwenview for kde4 requires libexiv2 which is not in -current; where do I report this? [22:19] send an email to pat i guess [22:20] anyone else running current? can I verify their gwenview also is not running because it requires that dep? it's looking for shared libs so it could be something i've done. [22:20] is gwenview part of the default kde4 project? [22:20] I'm pretty certain [22:20] lemme check [22:20] Doesn't look like it [22:20] If its not part of the default KDE4 installation.. he won't care. [22:21] it's part of kdegraphics [22:21] so, yes, it is. 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[22:23] exiv2-0.18-i486-1 in -current [22:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdegraphics [22:24] exiv2 is not part of kde4 [22:24] its in l/ [22:24] /usr/lib/libexiv2.so.5.2.0 [22:24] and gwenview is its own project.. again.. not part of kde4 [22:25] alot of the kde apps are their own projects i though [22:25] t* [22:25] Looksl ike hte version of gwenview in kde4 is slimmted down [22:25] however, the exiv2 package is in -current [22:25] 'grep -R -l libexiv2 /var/log/packages/' gives me exiv2 package [22:25] packages.slackware.it lists it as well [22:26] ok, so what's the deal, there? [22:26] it was added on Apr 2 [22:26] and the other thing I'm confused about.. why are you trying to build it if its part of kde4 already? [22:26] duplicate package, or custom kde4 distribution, or exiv2 was bundled with stuff already so he left it out of kde4? [22:26] dartmouth, Either you are not all the way up to date on -current, or you changed/removed some libraries. It is working on my -current box here [22:27] im not trying to build it, im trying to run it after upgrading to -current [22:27] I have gwenview here [22:27] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:27] MS3FGX: weird [22:27] ls /var/log/packages | grep kde [22:28] Dominian: http://pastebin.com/m1acb9ca1 [22:28] and "which gwenview" returns nothing? [22:29] yup [22:29] dartmouth do you have exiv2 installed? [22:29] I'd reinstall kdegraphics [22:29] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] hrmmm. http://pastebin.com/m35a2577f [22:30] Looks to me its part of the package [22:31] hrm libexiv2 is in the slackbuilds tree [22:31] but if kdegraphics' build of gwenview requires libexiv2 it should be in -current [22:32] its in -current [22:32] unless it is and i've updated incorrectly, let me check. [22:32] read the changelog [22:32] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/l/exiv2-0.18-i486-1.tgz [22:32] olefowdie (n=Ford@adsl-176-178-179.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] weird. [22:32] it was added Apr 2 [22:32] i wonder wtf the deal is then. [22:32] ok, thx. [22:32] reinstall kdegrahpics [22:33] why would I reinstall kdegraphics? [22:33] you said which gwenview [22:33] i'll just install exiv2 [22:33] returns nothing [22:33] Well, I doubt exiv2 is going to fix the missing binary/path issue you seem to have with gwenview [22:33] no i misunderstood i thought you were grepping my packages dir [22:35] i am wondering how often the mirror I've got picked out in my slackpkg config updates its tree, now. [22:35] so does 'which gwenview' return anything or not? [22:35] yeah its in usr/bin [22:35] Well if the mirror you are using doesn't have the the latest changes (May 3), then that is a slow mirror [22:36] ok then it's in your path [22:36] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:36] i picked romania [22:36] grazymax (n=grazymax@host251-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [22:36] well, they would only be capable of updating when an update is available and in my experience with osuosl, they are on it everytime within minutes [22:36] antiwire: what's the download speed for them though? [22:37] for me it's anywhere between 100-350k [22:37] yeah [22:37] depending on their line load [22:37] are you US based? [22:37] yup [22:37] goatdog (n=goatdog@tn-74-4-34-143.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] why did you choose a Romanian server then? [22:37] merp (n=merp@137.sub-75-216-81.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [22:37] low load [22:38] grazymax (n=grazymax@host15-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [22:38] and across the world [22:38] But...it is geographically very far away. There are US servers that aren't overloaded too... [22:38] the reason for the geographic spread of mirrors is to help keep traffic geographically localized [22:38] dartmouth what is the exact error message you get from gwenview? [22:38] You don't pick mirror based on how unlikely you think it is anyone else is using it. [22:39] you pick an close mirror [22:39] Action: BP{k} usually uses the one in the bathroom :P [22:39] nille_: it's corrected now, thank you. if exiv2 is in current i must have just not gotten it from slackpkg, i'll read the man later and see what I missed. [22:40] slackpkg install-new [22:40] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [22:40] nille_: that doesn't overwrite packages you've already got? [22:40] i must have misread [22:41] Yeah, make sure you are doing install-new. exiv2 was added quite awhile ago, so if you haven't been adding the new ones...you are missing a lot of stuff [22:41] as well as removing what has been removed [22:41] and when you run current always read the changelog [22:42] Action: dartmouth grumbles [22:43] and the CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TT and the UPGRADE.TXT [22:44] Action: BP{k} was actually suprised how easy the upgrade to -current once again went this afternoon. [22:44] ls ne* [22:44] and 'slackpkg search libexiv2' would have saved you alot of time [22:44] Just taking a quick look from the changelog, you are probably missing at least 20-30 packages, and that is assuming you initially installed from -current around the beginning of March. [22:45] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:45] uva- (i=bno@118-168-237-87.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:45] uva (i=bno@118-168-237-87.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] no i upgraded from 12.2 [22:45] its telling me im missing about 12 files [22:46] xz, swig, scim-input-pad, rasqal, libvncserver, libnl, libmcrypt, jasper, iw, crda, M2Crypto....none of these are remotely important. [22:48] merp (n=merp@137.sub-75-216-81.myvzw.com) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [22:48] Something is definitely not right on your system. By my count there are at least 45 new packages added in the March 9 update alone, when exiv2 was added. [22:49] olefowdie (n=Ford@adsl-176-178-179.asm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [22:50] can somebody explain to me how kernel 2.6 is newer than 2.4 but 2.6.8 is older than 2.6.26?? [22:50] that list is what slackpkg install-new slackware returned with, MS3FGX [22:50] dartmouth i see you had some problems with kde today in #kde [22:51] yes i did [22:51] dartmouth, And you have never before run install-new since 12.2? [22:51] never [22:51] maybe becaseu 2.6.8 means the 8th one and 2.6.26 = 26th [22:51] or maybe not [22:51] well recheck that you doesn't miss any package [22:51] kiraa, its like 100.10% is less than 100.5% [22:52] nille_: ill compare my list in /var/log/packages with a list of all -current packages tonight and see where im at [22:52] kiraa read from the left [22:52] Then something isn't setup right. [22:53] You can see how many new packages have been added by looking at CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT. There are way more than what slackpkg is listing [22:53] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.85.12) left irc: "Leaving" [22:53] kiraa: twenty-six is a larger number than eight.... [22:53] is that better? [22:54] kiraa: You really need to explain this, how to you interpret these numbers? No matter how I look at it I get 2.6.26 to be less then 2.6.8 [22:54] u,, [22:54] ? [22:55] kiraa 2.6 is the kernelseries and the last .26 is the update version [22:55] maybe if it read like 2.6.2.6 [22:55] but it doesn't [22:55] it read 2.6.26 [22:55] cmk_zzz: 2.6.26 is GREATER than 2.6.8 [22:55] perhaps the 0 is silent. Like 2.6.8(0) vs 2.6.26 [22:55] MS3FGX: check this out: http://pastebin.com/m70816303 [22:55] cmk_zzz: then it would be 2.6.80...not 2.6.8 [22:55] cmk_zzz: no [22:55] just like there was 2.6.20... [22:56] antiwire: I know I made so many typos in that sentence that I seriously think I might have damaged my brain. If I read it back it doesn't even make sense [22:56] 0.14% > 0.5% :) lol [22:56] so how did he get that 2.6.8 is greater than 2.6.26? [22:56] god. [22:56] omfg. [22:56] are you serious? [22:57] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [22:57] on average you can break it down as follows: $major . $minor . $patch [22:57] each nuber is a whole. there are no silent parts [22:57] actually....2.6.8 is actually 2.6.08 and when you put that against 2.6.26, well, 2.6.26 is 18 revisions advanced from 2.6.08 [22:57] 80 is higher than 8 [22:57] andarius: apparently that won't help since they can't count in the first place [22:57] yeah he was looking at it numerically [22:57] 26 is higher than 8 [22:57] .8 > .08 [22:57] erm [22:57] .8 > .26 [22:57] you have to look at the numbers for there absolute value [22:58] these are version numbers not freaking algebra [22:58] of course, he saw them as decimal numbers. Quite logical now when I see it [22:58] lmao [22:58] lol,antiwire [22:59] now that he's done that though i'll always find myself being a little paranoid i might have done that. with that in mind i demand all of you change that standard immediately lol [22:59] Perhaps the double dotted decimal numbers are a new branch of maths [22:59] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-212-18.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:59] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [22:59] That'll be $24.6.11 please [23:00] dartmouth, Have you changed any other slackpkg config files other than the mirror list? You might want to blow away all the slackpkg databases "rm -rf /var/lib/slackpkg/*", and update it again from this new mirror [23:00] Then see if it says anything different. [23:00] riiight so 2.6.8 + 2.6.26 = 4.12.34 [23:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Versions [23:01] MS3FGX: you may be onto something i haven't updated since about midapril [23:01] antiwire: Perhaps, it migh also be 5.32.4 [23:02] Action: antiwire screams [23:02] you guys forgot to carry the tens [23:02] tank-man: don't tell us how to do maphs [23:02] dartmouth, You also don't need to add the "slackware" part to install-new, it already knows to do the whole system. [23:02] antiwire: yeah that's what im doing. i just have a 2.4 kernel on one machine and have it networked to a 2.6 machine, so that way i can tell people im using the 5.0 kernel [23:03] Bop__ (i=1003@bl8-110-195.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:03] MS3FGX: k [23:04] ok, after the update it's looking alot better [23:04] Action: nille_ gives antiwire an algebra book [23:04] oh, you know what, I know why im not missing so many packages-- i didn't upgrade with slackpkg i used rsync and some scripts [23:05] if i remember right [23:05] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:05] Bop__ (i=1003@bl4-166-139.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [23:05] i dont have short term memory, like, at all, so if i remember something i always will lol [23:05] maybe the kernel version numbers are numbers in a 3d space, like x y z :) you need some vector math [23:05] hah [23:06] Well as long as you are getting them on there somehow. Though it would be a good idea to pick one method and stick with it so you know it is all getting installed. [23:06] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:06] tank-man: if you're not careful people are going to start throwing up [23:06] I wish I could look into the future and see what a 5.0 kernel is gonna look like [23:06] dartmouth: ponies and mermaids [23:07] antiwire: sirens and underwater blowj......wait, I resent that, ponies aren't cool at all. [23:07] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [23:07] i think that by 4.0 Linux will have already experienced singularity and will have killed us all by 4.2 [23:07] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] nah, you're just way too excited about that T4 flick coming out later this month [23:07] lol [23:08] paissad (n=paissad@72.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:08] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:09] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-161-235.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:09] by 3.8 the kernel have started to write it self and linus is unemployed [23:10] dartmouth: Terminator Salvation, aka T4: Salvation, out May 21st. [23:11] T5: Best of, out June 26th [23:11] yeah i saw the trailer for it when i saw wolverine the other night [23:11] which, if you were a fan as a kid, was very cool. [23:11] so, it was really good? [23:12] hmph [23:12] Dominian: alives? [23:12] straterra: mew! [23:12] tecky, if he is i'll kill him [23:12] i dont think if you're into wolverine and knew about the characters (if you were not a serious xmen geek) that you might not appreciate how 'good' of a movie it was, but the action scenes were enough to kind of balance it out. [23:12] Hey edman007. How are you? [23:12] edman007: he's a tool! [23:12] tecky: barely [23:12] Dominian: /licks! [23:12] Action: edman007 kills Dominian [23:13] hows things been ? [23:13] O.o [23:13] tecky: busy.. you? [23:13] Action: dartmouth laughs, for he willed it [23:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:13] pm [23:14] why am i only just now being told to use slackpkg? a couple years ago i was specifically told by regs *not* to use it [23:14] dartmouth: Just recently I seen on tv the last 2-3 Xmen movies. The latest ones before this Xmen Origins: Wolverine came out. [23:14] dartmouth: its default in the install now [23:14] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@160.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [23:14] firebird619, good [23:15] Hey Dominian. How's it going? [23:15] is that the only difference? [23:15] edman007: had any finals yet? I forgot when you said they were. :P [23:15] firebird619, next week [23:15] Action: dartmouth is seriously questioning some potentially artifical/false beliefs about the limitations of linux now [23:15] then i graduate [23:15] edman007: Ah ok. [23:15] Yay, graduation. [23:16] edman007: awesome! [23:16] congraduation [23:16] and go to flordia and take a vacation and hope the people i had an interview with today give me a job and tell me i start in two months or so [23:16] i'm going to stay in flordia until i'm forced to go back [23:17] ...and i'm going to drive down there... [23:17] Driving directions to Fort Myers, FL -> 1,355 mi  about 21 hours 39 mins [23:17] rofl [23:17] haha. [23:17] might be able to make it in under 24 hours if i split the drive time [23:18] thats not that long [23:18] i'll fly back though [23:18] nille_, hahaha, you drive cross country a lot or something? [23:19] that drive is basically the entire east coast [23:19] he might be australian? [23:19] ï drive alot yes [23:19] but not across the US [23:19] what country? [23:19] sweden [23:20] ...how long does it take to drive the length of sweeden? [23:20] Action: edman007 tries to check [23:20] it is about 2000km [23:20] well in the summer i guess 20h [23:20] edman007: text 421421 [23:21] grazymax (n=grazymax@host15-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [23:21] but now they have killed the fun with speeding cameras :( [23:21] nille_: Have you been caught by one of those camera before? [23:22] i never been caught by a camera yet [23:22] cmk_zzz, yup, and google says 21 hours 23 mins for what i just did...almost exactly the same, lol [23:22] grazymax (n=grazymax@host223-27-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [23:22] nille_: because you follow the rules, or your just that sneaky and evasive. [23:22] dartmouth, i don't pay the phone bill...so i'm not texting numbers that might incur extra charges [23:22] i keep getting ichy in my face when i see one [23:22] meh [23:22] i had a good laugh today, i saw a Magic Jack :P [23:23] those things suck [23:23] i have the heaviest right foot ever [23:23] my father-in-law had one of those.. was a pice of shit [23:23] no cameras around here...and that a good thing because those red lights just get in the way late at night [23:23] Dominian: my bro.in.law has one ... claims how good it is, i read up on it, REQUIRES WINDOWS / MAC [23:23] :P [23:23] dartmouth, anyways, what is that number suppose to be? [23:23] agrees with Dominian....a real POS [23:23] well i have already seen the red one so why stop and have a look? [23:23] yeah, if it isn't the red lights it is those damn logging trucks running a green light [23:24] datalock (n=datalock@189.35.140.207) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:24] running a green light? rofl [23:24] rodrigo (n=rocch@unaffiliated/notaffiliated) joined ##slackware. [23:24] edman007: its one of those 'answer my question' services [23:25] Action: tecky hums... and soooo .... this sex is on fire.... [23:25] dartmouth, have you ever called 1-800-GOOG-411 [23:25] nite all:) [23:25] edman007: isn't that a porn hotline? [23:25] that is cool, does a google business search and hooks you up [23:25] one time i caught them in a logic break between their service orientation and the nature of their service and they had a fucking segfault on some socratic wisdom. it was totally worth the 20 bucks. [23:25] tecky, no, its actually google [23:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [23:25] http://www.google.com/goog411/ [23:25] ^ proof [23:25] but i need to get a faster car, i get bored in the one i drive right now [23:26] eek. pardon my french :/ [23:26] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:26] dartmouth: looks like english to me :P [23:26] eek. pardon my ignorant comment towards france. [23:26] dartmouth, lol [23:26] wait, no, I take that back, I hate the french. [23:26] dartmouth: its ok i always end up cussing :X [23:27] dartmouth, just act scary, they will surrender [23:27] thats what i was thinking. they're like canadians only a little braver. [23:27] according to red hat france is the most active contributor to open source projects :) [23:27] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "there once was a man from over there -->" [23:27] lol [23:27] sahko, who said i like red hat? [23:28] hrm, i actually kinda like transmission for a BTorrent client [23:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] >.> [23:28] rpms need to die [23:28] that must be why i hate red hat [23:28] have you ever googled 'french military victories' and hit the button, 'i'm feeling lucky', the output is hilarious! [23:28] Action: tecky agree's with edman007 [23:28] chazbro (n=cbroam@adsl-71-153-134-105.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] hahaha [23:29] that's great [23:30] hellloooo there [23:30] google for Légion étrangère instead [23:30] whats the conversation topic? [23:31] drinking milkshakes [23:31] /topic chazbro's mom. return or refund? [23:31] shit. oops. [23:31] chazbro: making babies? [23:31] antiwire tries to learn math [23:31] Nick change: chazbro -> wiredforgood [23:31] heh [23:31] nille_, that does not even show a full page of results... [23:32] nille_: that's maph thank you very much [23:32] i get 11 links, counting the youtube vids [23:32] (4 links to non-youtube pages) [23:32] i get 1650000 hits [23:33] Results 1 - 10 of about 1,970,000 for Légion étrangère. (0.35 seconds) [23:33] well it's like the french special forces [23:34] yea...i get a lot of hits, but the first page of hist is weird in that its not a full page...for example, when i google "apple" i have to scroll for two pages, but for that link there is no scroll bar... [23:34] but there from all around the world [23:34] O_o [23:34] Action: wiredforgood has no clue how to join this conversation [23:35] They are tought guys [23:35] wiredforgood: then wait for the next conversation and try and jump in. :P [23:35] anyways, what use is a military if they don't fight? are they just a legion of flag bearers or something? expected to deliver a white flag at the first sign of confrontation? [23:35] wiredforgood, make fun of the french [23:35] Action: wiredforgood blows rasberries @ firebird619 :P [23:36] wiredforgood must be french [23:36] edman007: They fight allright. I think they are involved in any war out there + a few more [23:36] actually yes i am [23:36] cmk_zzz, yea, they build refugee tents with all their flags [23:36] jacjAX (n=gts@189-041-40-167.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [23:36] gooph: I did the googlr search for french military victories. I guess I didn't think it was all that funny. [23:37] PaddyMac1: Sad reading? [23:38] yxz97 (n=yxz97@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [23:38] Hello there [23:38] hey there yxz [23:38] dang it... microwave beeped [23:38] Alan_Hicks, hello [23:39] wiredforgood, better taste good, what is it/ [23:39] s/\//?/ [23:41] cmk_zzz: Well, not exactly sad. But I clicked the link for French military defeats which is quite a long list. I realize teh humor. [23:42] edman007 i think it's the one army in the world that have never ever surender [23:42] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-12.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] the Légion étrangère that is [23:42] nille_, well its not... [23:42] nille_: We'll kind of no point if you're only building shelters with your flags [23:43] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-161-235.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [23:43] a quick example, Kosovo must have some type of army right? they only existed for what, 2 years, i don't think thats enough time to surrender [23:43] they fight in every war in the world there legionnaires for crying out loud [23:44] but edman said they only build tents with their flags. Somewhat like the red cross or something;) [23:44] :) [23:44] no he talked about the amarican army [23:44] rofl [23:45] Action: edman007 slaps nille_ [23:45] Action: nille_ kicks edman007 [23:45] Action: superGear punches nille_ in the nuts [23:45] Action: antiwire pulls the pin [23:46] Action: nille_ blocks superGear [23:46] Action: firebird619 finds shelter. [23:46] Action: antiwire sets that right *there* [23:46] antiwire i hope you were holding an granate [23:46] Action: chopp wonders why superGear wants his hand near some nuts. [23:47] cuase hes nuts [23:47] peas* [23:48] I am glad to finally be home. [23:48] y0 agentc0re. How goes it? [23:48] Today was a long day at work. 6:30am-9:30pm [23:48] firebird619: Eh... :/ [23:48] glad I'm not this guy, http://tinyurl.com/dyw9rt [23:49] agentc0re: whoa, I guess a long day. [23:49] i hzte tinyurl [23:50] s/hzte/hate? [23:50] nille_: what would you use nille_? [23:50] no it's french [23:50] oh, ok. :D [23:50] yxz97 (n=yxz97@201.194.46.86) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:51] tinyurl is like wildly clicking on every email attachment in Outlook Express. You never know where you'll end up [23:51] well i often use the real url so you can have an idea if you like to open it or not, an tinyurl can be anything [23:52] nille_: yeah, I use tinyurl once in a while when the link is longer. [23:52] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-212-18.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] the real url: http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Woman_bites_lovers_penis_off_in_car_crash&in_article_id=646575&in_page_id=2 [23:54] did she or didn't she get an raise? [23:54] not sure. :P [23:55] nille_: after what she did there, she probably got fired. [23:55] In Soviet Russi penis bites off YOU! [23:55] was it her husband driving that van? [23:55] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:55] jeepster (n=jeepster@static-87-102-68-72.karoo.KCOM.COM) joined ##slackware. [23:55] haha, not sure, that would make sense. :P [23:55] seen one eyed monter? [23:55] no [23:55] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:55] makes me think of that early Robin Williams film World According To T.S. Garp [23:56] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988043/ [23:57] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933FExsfU3c [23:59] lol,nille_...Ron Jeremy [23:59] yeah bring the bong and watch it [00:00] --- Wed May 6 2009