[00:00] <dive> another answer would be 'You're not allowed to' ;-)
[00:00] <flappy1> he he
[00:00] <Oak> :)
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[00:04] <mancha> and yet another answer would be: 42
[00:04] <jeev> any epassporte.com users? it's closed it's virtual doors
[00:05] <flappy1> Difficult questions only accepted?
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[00:10] <MLanden> mancha: see deadbeef's released their 1st release candidate for 0.4.2 recently http://sourceforge.net/projects/deadbeef/files/
[00:11] <mancha> Mlanden ah neat. do they credit me for my patch?  :)
[00:11] <Oak> mancha, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
[00:11] <mancha> Oak yep  :)
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[00:12] <Oak> hehe
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[00:12] <MLanden> mancha: dunno..looking in the changelog
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[00:23] <mancha> this is taking too long...means the answer is "no"  :)
[00:24] <MLanden> mancha: sorry,didn't see it
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[00:27] <mancha> i figured since i didn't get credit in the git-log
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[00:29] <MLanden> mancha: http://pastebin.com/DLsjpQy7 here's their changelog,if you're interested
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[02:09] <byteframe> I'm not a witch.
[02:10] <alisonken1lap> they put this carrot on my nose
[02:10] <sahko> hahaha
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[02:19] <rhisa> What did I walk into?
[02:21] <BP{k}> he turned me into a newt!
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[02:22] <rhisa> :'o Monty!
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[02:40] <slipttees> hi folks
[02:40] <slipttees> i need bit help to this: http://pastebin.com/K66mfrER
[02:40] <slipttees> :-(
[02:43] <mancha> put the -o ~/Desktop/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-custom-i386.iso first, before the -r?
[02:43] <mancha> and switch to a better distrib, i knew a good one but forgot the name right now  :>
[02:44] <kukukk> :}}
[02:44] <slipttees> ^^
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[02:46] <slipttees> mancha: what? -o first -r ?
[02:48] <mancha> sudo mkisofs -o ~/Desktop/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-custom-i386.iso [...rest of your shit here...]
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[02:49] <slipttees> mancha: :-)
[02:50] <slipttees> mancha: some error
[02:50] <slipttees> =/
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[02:52] <sahko> long live the cdrkit fork
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[02:54] <mancha> oh aha! i misread your line, you are missing a path for the "stuff" add a period "." to the end.
[02:54] <mancha> sudo mkisofs -o ~/Desktop/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-custom-i386.iso -r -V "ubuntu-live-custom" -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -cache-inodes -J -l -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table .
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[02:56] <mancha> or the path to wherever the root of what you're make into an iso is. i assumed your $(pwd)
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[02:59] <slipttees> root exit, execute command same error
[03:00] <mancha> pastebin the comand
[03:00] <rhisa> Oh sh- I only have 85g left on my external drive, this is bad.
[03:03] <slipttees> mancha: genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory 'isolinux'!
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[03:05] <mrcarrot> 09:05 < alisonken1lap> they put this carrot on my nose
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[03:06] <mrcarrot> i feel disgusted
[03:06] <mancha> lemme guess...your machine beeped?
[03:06] <mancha> carrot juice
[03:06] <mrcarrot> hello mancha
[03:06] <mancha> hi
[03:07] <mrcarrot> no, mancha, my machine did not beep... earlier i had all kind of triggers in irssi that was playing stuff with mplayer etc... but not anymore
[03:09] <mrcarrot> i actually met my wife on irc... and while we were dating through irc i was having mplayer to make a lot of noice each time she came online so i would wake up in case i was sleeping or away from the computer
[03:10] <mancha> love at first byte?
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[03:10] <surrounder> haha
[03:10] <mrcarrot> almost
[03:12] <slipttees> mancha: well done
[03:12] <slipttees> :D
[03:12] <slipttees> thx i lot
[03:12] <slipttees> ;d
[03:12] <mancha> !!!  :)
[03:13] <slipttees> then
[03:13] <slipttees> livecd/cd
[03:13] <slipttees> cd ..
[03:13] <slipttees> execute
[03:13] <slipttees> sudo mkisofs -D -r -V "ubuntu-live-custom" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o /home/suporte/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-custom-i386.iso cd
[03:14] <slipttees> Size of boot image is 4 sectors -> No emulation   1.23% done, estimate finish Tue Oct  5 04:06:42 2010
[03:14] <slipttees> :D
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[03:14] <mrcarrot> nowdays i am using k3b for all burning... i have become lazy... but when i begun with linux i had all the time to use mkisofs and then burn the image with cdrecord. i have been forgetting the arguments even..
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[03:16] Action: mrcarrot wishes there would be a nice console app doing the same like k3b... making burning more friendly
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[03:18] <mancha> i can probably code up an ncurses app like that quite quickly. so you basically want a coaster-maker that hangs at 99% complete right?  :P
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[03:19] <mrcarrot> i was thinking about an ncurses app... but still using the right tools under... without hanging
[03:20] <mrcarrot> anyway... i could probably make script for it too... not that difficult just that i do not have the time to care about it as k3b is still working. my wife would not be happy if i spent my time coding stuff instead of taking care of the kids when i am at home
[03:21] <mrcarrot> that is the problem with family... but they also give something back :)
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[04:44] <Zordrak> alienBOB: ping
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[06:28] <alienBOB> Zordrak: pong
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[06:30] <mrcarrot> ping
[06:33] <tecra> •mrcarrot• pong
[06:33] <Zordrak> alienBOB: pm
[06:34] <sahko> Zordrak: am
[06:34] <Zordrak> sahko: ddm
[06:34] <Zordrak> yeah boyee ;)
[06:36] <sahko> dynamic device maping is the only relevant abbrevation to ddm i can find
[06:36] <adrien> fuck
[06:36] <Zordrak> Distributed Data Manager
[06:36] <adrien> argh, wrong channel, sorry (I just pushed a whole stack of paper down the desktop)
[06:37] <tecra> lamo?
[06:37] <Zordrak> lmao!
[06:38] <tecra> lol
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[06:47] <raela> does anyone know how to do really basic streaming with a webcam? nothing fancy, I just want to be able to connect to my computer remotely and look at the feed
[06:50] <mancha> vlc should serve camfeedery
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[06:51] <mancha> or: http://webcamserver.sourceforge.net/
[06:53] <raela> hrm.. looking at one that just takes a picture every few seconds
[06:53] <mancha> you said stream
[06:53] <mancha> StReaM you said
[06:53] <adrien>  ^^
[06:53] <adrien> s/seconds/mili\0/ will do it ;-)
[06:53] <raela> yup I did
[06:54] <raela> but I'm also an idiot
[06:54] <sahko> spysoft.gov has that
[06:54] <raela> I just need to see if my dogs freak out
[06:54] <mancha> we demand precise language here!
[06:55] <mancha> raela, look intogspy
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[06:55] <raela> I want to see if the two canine familiaris species have an episode of anxiety and produce loud vocalizations (which would be apparent by movements of the oral cavity)
[06:55] <raela> is that more precise?
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[06:55] <raela> I do believe you typoed, mancha
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[06:56] <adrien> raela: you need to be precise on the species too -_-
[06:56] <adrien> you want sound too?
[06:56] <raela> canine familiaris is domesticated dog
[06:56] <raela> nah, it's obvious if they bark
[06:56] <mancha> raela, camE
[06:56] <raela> without sound
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[06:59] <raela> trying that.. thanks mancha
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[06:59] <raela> er.. it might be too old to build
[07:00] <mancha> no problem-oh
[07:00] <mancha> too old?!?
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[07:00] <raela> it immediately threw a bunch of errors
[07:00] <adrien> PRECISION!
[07:00] <raela> I guess some headers have been removed in the 6 years since it was made
[07:00] <mancha> link to source you used?
[07:01] <raela> http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/XrSjHA70.html
[07:01] <raela> http://linuxbrit.co.uk/downloads/camE-1.8.tar.gz
[07:02] <adrien> it depends on imlib2 =)
[07:02] <sahko> errm did you install the dependencies?
[07:02] <sahko> and giflib
[07:02] <adrien> imlib2-1.4.2-x86_64-2_SBo
[07:02] <raela> ..ah
[07:02] <sahko> and giblib*
[07:02] <adrien> AND FIX YOUR ENCODING!
[07:02] <raela> I never pretended to be smart..
[07:02] <raela> AE AE AE AE
[07:03] <raela> it looks fine in my term
[07:03] <sahko> btw 1.9 has been out for ages
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[07:03] <sahko> its unmaintained software fwiw
[07:03] <adrien> it's not even being smart, it's... reading what's written
[07:03] <raela> well them let me know of a more up to date thing that does the same thing?
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[07:03] <adrien> heh, haven't updated, not using it
[07:03] <adrien> bah, really late now
[07:03] <raela> adrien, it's f'ing 7am :P
[07:04] <adrien> go back to bed then -_-
[07:04] <raela> I leave in an hour
[07:04] <mancha> get v1.9, install imlib, and fix the outdated curl shit
[07:04] <raela> 1.9 was not on the website!
[07:04] <raela> and the creator's website didn't have a link
[07:04] <sahko> there is no website http://linuxbrit.co.uk/software/
[07:05] <mancha> change 8 for 9 in your url
[07:05] <raela> how was I supposed to know 1.9 existed.. pssh
[07:06] <erik> if it happens to be a uvc camera mjpg-streamer works very well
[07:06] <raela> it is uvc yeah
[07:07] <raela> it's okay, camE still failed wiith the deps
[07:07] <erik> good, it's super easy then
[07:07] <adrien> PRECISION!
[07:07] <adrien> and good luck with raela everyone =)
[07:07] <mancha> how do you say precision in french?
[07:07] <adrien> the same
[07:07] <raela> http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ORGdqL27.html
[07:08] <raela> it still falled on 'error 1'!
[07:08] <adrien> with an accent : précision, or "exactitude" (a bit different)
[07:08] <adrien> lol
[07:08] <mancha> it was a trick question. we all know the french are imprecise.
[07:08] <adrien>  /o\
[07:08] <adrien> mancha: lookup "Bourbaki", wikipedia should have some nice pages
[07:08] <mancha> bourbaki didn't exist
[07:08] <adrien> and there's a reason the wikipedia pages about mathematics are often better than the english ones =)
[07:08] <adrien> yeah =)
[07:08] <adrien> gotta go =)
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[07:17] <flappy> Is it posible to make xfce environment windows transparent? (file manager, firefox, , shell, terminal, etc...)
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[07:19] <flappy> http://gavare.se/transparent-shape-xterm/transparent-shape-xterm.png
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[07:25] <raela> erik: thank you!!!!
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[07:45] <mephisto[at]Lab> hello, i am trying to repair a slack system but need the smart tools [smartctl etc]
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[07:46] <mephisto[at]Lab> after a quick sarch in the slack pkg tree i was unable to find it
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[07:47] <mancha> the package is smartmontools
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[07:48] <mephisto[at]Lab> thx a lot mancha
[07:48] <mancha> np
[07:48] <mephisto[at]Lab> ah w8 where ? how can i search it form the live disk? is it in n?
[07:48] <mancha> no, it is in a
[07:48] <mancha> n is for network things...
[07:49] <mephisto[at]Lab> damn right
[07:49] <mrcarrot> w8? what is w8?
[07:49] <mancha> last night i/8
[07:49] <mephisto[at]Lab> sorry .. been 4-5 hours wroking nonstop to fix this damn machine
[07:49] <mephisto[at]Lab> w8 = wait
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[07:51] <mrcarrot> hello channel :-)
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[07:51] <flappy> hi
[07:52] <flappy> Anyone offers a freebie question? :)
[07:55] <flappy> .
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[07:56] <flappy> .
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[08:01] <jrodger> hey, what is the smfpd process? it seems to be slowing me down....:(
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[08:02] <mancha> do you have a samsung printer?
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[08:03] <jrodger> yesbut disconnected, only connect when required, is that it?  don't want to stop a process if I can help it
[08:03] <mancha> its samsung's printer driver
[08:04] <jrodger> mancha: thanks, I can sleep now. ciao
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[08:28] <mrcarrot> ping
[08:28] <thrice`> ?
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[08:29] <mrcarrot> thrice`: i was expecting somebody to answer pong...
[08:29] <mrcarrot> it was so silent in the channel
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[08:29] <thrice`> ok
[08:30] <mrcarrot> it is sometimes a bit difficult to come up with things to discuss here... that i just hoped it would continue from there
[08:32] <thrice`> well, saying something silly like "ping" doesn't spark a good conversation
[08:32] <alienBOB> I'd rather see silence then
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[08:32] <mrcarrot> okay, alienBOB i will keep my mouth
[08:32] <mrcarrot> at least a little discuss begun :)
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[08:37] <tsccof> mrcarrot: I agree with you
[08:38] <tsccof> in fact, I agree with everyone on that
[08:39] <mrcarrot> i think i have unintentionally been annoying some here by talking here about things that are not purely slackware related...
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[08:40] <tsccof> mrcarrot: hmm, that most times doesn't make anyone upset, in case there is no one in the need of real support
[08:40] <tsccof> such as now
[08:41] <tsccof> but I must say "ping" doesn't spark a good conversation, as thrice` said :P
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[08:41] <mrcarrot> :)
[08:42] <pupit> mrcarrot: "manbearpig" is better then "ping" :P
[08:42] <mrcarrot> at least in the channel guidlines it is said that offtopic is allowed while nobody is asking for help or discussing slackware related stuff
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[08:42] <mrcarrot> i do not want to imagine a manbearpig.... that sound too uggly
[08:43] <tsccof> yea
[08:43] <tsccof> man these nintendo fans are stupid
[08:43] <mrcarrot> ?
[08:43] <mrcarrot> i never had a nintendo...
[08:44] <pupit> mrcarrot: you can always watch a scene from southpark with manbearpig
[08:44] <Zordrak> mrcarrot: Off topic is fine, but you'll still get beaten down for saying things that are pointless, moronic, stupid or just generally offensive.
[08:44] <mrcarrot> southpark is pretty boring... i think at least. bugs bunny or roadrunners and similar are much more funny :)
[08:46] <tsccof> south park is fine
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[08:46] <gtludwig> hello all
[08:46] <tsccof> bugs bunny is from another era
[08:46] <kukukk> Road Runner is the best :}
[08:46] <m3tti> mrcarrot: appriciate
[08:46] <m3tti> hi there
[08:46] <mrcarrot> hello gtludwig
[08:48] <Zordrak> Hm.
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[08:48] <mrcarrot> visiting surrounder?
[08:48] Action: Zordrak 's media player decided to play "I Wanna Be A Hippie" for the frist time in ages
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[08:49] <Zordrak> (Technohead)
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[08:56] <m3tti> ZMR: has trouble
[08:56] <m3tti> with his connection
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[09:12] <sahko> Zordrak: lol, you listen to that kind of stuff?
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[09:15] <gaurav> my clock settings changed every time i login
[09:16] <gaurav> on panal
[09:17] <gaurav> i set it in am/pm format but when i reboot it changed in default
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[09:18] <gaurav> in 24 format
[09:18] <sahko> gaurav: xfce?
[09:18] <gaurav> yes
[09:20] <sahko> maybe its an xfce bug
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[09:20] <gaurav> i go by right click on clock on panal
[09:21] <gaurav> at clock property
[09:21] <tsccof> not a XFCE bug, afaik
[09:21] <tsccof> I use XFCE 4.6.1
[09:21] <tsccof> I have no problems whatsoever
[09:22] <Zordrak> sahko: not generally
[09:22] <sahko> tsccof: do you have your clock in am/pm format?
[09:23] <tsccof> sahko: yea
[09:23] <sahko> Zordrak: ok, it was surprising to see yoou listening to hardcore at work
[09:23] <tsccof> that may be a battery issue
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[09:26] <Zordrak> sahko: nah.. i listen mostly to: Styx, Synyrd Skynyrd, DragonForce, Pink, Alicia Keys, Skid Row, Evanescence, Chris Cornell, Michael Jackson, Buckethead
[09:26] <Zordrak> *Lynyrd
[09:26] <surrounder> DragonForce \o/
[09:26] <surrounder> man those guys are fast
[09:27] <Zordrak> surrounder: My favourite band of all time (at the moment :))
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[09:27] <surrounder> Zordrak: hah, nice! they rock indeed :)
[09:28] <sahko> meh
[09:28] <sahko> id prefer technohead :)
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[09:28] <Zordrak> My general ringtone is a section from about 2/3 way through Above The Winter Moonlight
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[09:39] <gaurav> i set it in am/pm format but when i reboot it changed in default
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[09:40] <gaurav> my clock settings changed every time i login
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[09:43] <gaurav> how install pkg remotely from internet
[09:44] <sahko> which package?
[09:44] <gaurav> such as "yum install vlc" in redhat
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[09:45] <rob0> See the slackpkg(8) documentation.
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[09:45] <asarch> How do you man a function key in Elvis (for example, F5 to run the current script)?
[09:45] <asarch> s/man/map/
[09:45] Action: asarch whispers: "damn alcohol..."
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[09:52] <arfon> Howdy
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[10:01] <jeev> thumbs
[10:02] <m3tti> aaaaah that damn stuxnet
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[10:03] <m3tti> it's just something which was invented by the us gov to threaten the public damn why does anybody think that irak's could do something like that
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[10:03] <thumbs> jeev: what?
[10:07] <Zordrak> surrounder: y'know the song that got me hooked on DF wasnt TTFAF, i hadnt even heard it at that point, it was Operation Ground and Pound
[10:08] <surrounder> Black Fire here :P
[10:08] Action: Zordrak appreciates he is currently on a 35min conversation lag :)
[10:08] <surrounder> hehe
[10:08] <surrounder> long live IRC, a lot more relaxed then IM (especially as people really want INSTANT response)
[10:09] <FriedBob> Zordrak: That's a good one.
[10:09] <Zordrak> Weird. There's someone in this Organisation called Wietse Wiekema
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[10:09] <FriedBob> TFFAF was the song that introduced me to them, but not the song that got me hooked.
[10:09] <Zordrak> as a postfix fan that intrigues me
[10:09] <surrounder> Zordrak: must be a frysian
[10:09] <jeev> thumbs, i just remembered. when i was running ab and testing it, it'd break at some points of ab, that was with current traffic
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[10:10] <thumbs> jeev: ab is a poor tool. It only provides basic information.
[10:10] <thumbs> jeev: however, do monitor /server-status while you benchmark. Make sure you don't run out of idle workers.
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[10:16] <jeev> thumbs, perhaps i'll give it a shot one day
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[10:51] <gaurav> how take photo by my webcam in slackware
[10:51] <gaurav> xfce
[10:52] <asarch> Use Cheese from the GNOME SlackBuild proyect
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[10:52] <gaurav> have not gnome
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[10:52] <phrag> vlc
[10:53] <lamah> gaurav: camorama, cheese
[10:53] <sahko> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-wishes-LibreOffice-the-best-but-won-t-directly-cooperate-1102095.html
[10:53] <phrag> is that a frnce cheese ?
[10:53] <phrag> french*
[10:54] <lamah> phrag: what?
[10:54] <phrag> =P
[10:54] <lamah> haha
[10:54] <lamah> ok
[10:54] Action: phrag is learning perl
[10:54] <lamah> the best scripting language
[10:54] <jeev> what a stupid ass name 'libreoffice'
[10:55] <lamah> reoffice
[10:55] <jeev> still.
[10:55] <jeev> when i say it's stupid, it's stupid
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[10:55] <jeev> i'm the creator
[10:55] <sahko> jeev: dont like it that much either. open sounds better
[10:56] <sahko> i would have named it openoffice , without the .org :)
[10:56] <jeev> i'd name it slackoffice
[10:56] <jeev> or jeevoffice
[10:56] <sahko> or it that name trademarked too?
[10:56] <gaurav> lamah: is camorame work on xfce
[10:56] <jeev> or fuckmsoffice
[10:56] <jeev> !
[10:57] <lamah> gaurav: i think yes
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[10:58] <jeev> lamah, does fedora work ?
[10:58] <lamah> jeev: yes
[10:58] <jeev> hmm
[10:58] <gaurav> ok but it couldent find it in slackbuild.org
[10:58] <jeev> interesting
[10:58] <lamah> ;-|
[10:58] <lamah> ;|
[10:58] <lamah> ...
[10:59] <jeev> do you have to rpm reboot when want to reboot ?
[10:59] <lamah> no
[10:59] <jeev> also very interesting.
[11:00] <lamah> jeev: you know Linux = Slackware
[11:00] <gaurav> can vlc take photo
[11:00] <jeev> hmm ? slackware is a linux distribution? yea
[11:00] <lamah> i mean stable distro
[11:00] <jeev> i just woke up, dont punk me foo
[11:01] <jeev> yes
[11:01] <lamah> good distro..., etc....
[11:02] <gaurav> can vlc take photo
[11:02] <linXea> yes
[11:02] <gaurav> how
[11:02] <linXea> vlc-snapshot.. even a keycombo for that ..
[11:04] <sahko> kde 4.5.2 released
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[11:15] <phrag> ooh
[11:15] <jeev> phrag, you're next.
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[11:40] <tux-root--rrwwx> is slackware easy to use like ubuntu?
[11:40] <lamah> no
[11:40] <m3tti_> woot
[11:40] <m3tti_> XD
[11:41] <alisonken1home> tux-root--rrwwx: it depends on your definition of "easy to use like ubuntu?" - easy is somewhat flexible
[11:42] <tank-man> judging by those permissions in your name, slackware will be hard
[11:43] <alisonken1home> personally, I find slackware easier to use than ubutntu - but I've been brought up on linux before the sudo this and sudo that craze
[11:43] <m3tti_> lamah: slackware is easy but
[11:43] <m3tti_> not for a normal ubuntu guy
[11:43] <m3tti_> sometimes
[11:43] <tux-root--rrwwx> i'm not yet that good using linux distro...as others said ubuntu is like the friendliest distro ever....but since before my cousin was already using slackware...and stopped due to slackware matters that he thought it was already dead...so he swifted to debian....and before he said slackware is the most easiest distro and fast...i dunno...heh
[11:44] <m3tti_> what do you know about linux tux-root--rrwwx
[11:44] <m3tti_> are you a power user and not afraid about getting your hand dirty
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[11:45] <m3tti_> and fiddeling around with some configs
[11:45] <tux-root--rrwwx> m3tti_ are u mad?
[11:45] <tux-root--rrwwx> lol
[11:46] <tux-root--rrwwx> i see...there's no point asking here....it seems people are not friendly :|
[11:46] <m3tti_> why i was just asking about your skills
[11:47] <alisonken1home> tux-root--rrwwx: actually, the people are friendly, but it's a more of friendly if you ask serous questions about how to do things after you've done some research
[11:47] <alisonken1home> or have specific questions
[11:47] <m3tti_> tux-root--rrwwx: slackware installing is like starting the installer choosing your packages you want.
[11:47] <m3tti_> and wait after installing everything you have to change some configs
[11:48] <tux-root--rrwwx> sorry
[11:48] <tux-root--rrwwx> :(
[11:48] <rob0> Slackware has a different type of ease of use. Also, you should get your emotions under control if you are going to participate in IRC.
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[11:48] <m3tti_> to get a running X server and so on
[11:48] <alisonken1home> m3tti_: what configs? mine just came right out
[11:48] <rob0> X is pretty easy these days.
[11:48] <Zordrak> new xorg
[11:48] <alisonken1home> the only reason I use a config is because I have a specific multi-screen layout
[11:49] <Zordrak> new xorg + hal + nvidia prop driver = teh goodness
[11:49] <alisonken1home> my other machine I don't even do that - just use krandr (on my laptop)
[11:49] <m3tti_> alisonken1home: inittab and lang.sh. rob0 right X is easy this days
[11:50] <m3tti_> so tux-root--rrwwx try slackware on an old pc because there is no virtualbox xorg driver in the default slackware setup. So it's a pain to get it running on VirtualBox for an quite unexpirienced user.
[11:50] <m3tti_> the installer is straight forward though you can't do much wrong
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[11:52] <m3tti_> tux-root--rrwwx: and ask in the channel if there are questions on installation or configuration
[11:53] Nick change: ajmrch -> asarch
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[11:56] <m3tti_> hm is he afraid ???
[11:56] <m3tti_> have i done something wrong?
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[11:59] <arfon> m3tti_: you're cool
[11:59] <m3tti_> :-)
[11:59] <arfon> (meaning: I didn't see anything you said that was wrong)
[12:00] <m3tti_> now some nice tunes from pink floyd
[12:00] <m3tti_> :-) dark side of the moon
[12:00] <alisonken1home> jethro tull - heavy horses
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[12:01] <m3tti_> alisonken1home: XD quite the same XD
[12:01] <Zordrak> jethro tull? Wh's he?
[12:01] <Zordrak> ;)
[12:01] <arfon> I'm liistening to "stupidity" by The Troll In The Cube Behind Me
[12:01] <Zordrak> *who's
[12:01] <arfon> He's a guy that plays the flute wrong... :)
[12:02] <alisonken1home> nope
[12:02] <alisonken1home> ian anderson plays the flute
[12:02] <arfon> (joke)
[12:02] <arfon> (on several levels)
[12:02] <arfon> I'm a complex person.
[12:02] Action: Necos stabs arfon 
[12:03] <Necos> nope, you still bleed :)
[12:03] Action: arfon bleends on Necos 
[12:03] <arfon> bleeds even
[12:03] <arfon> I'm a complex person who bleeds
[12:03] Action: Necos wears a tarp to keep blood off 
[12:03] <Necos> :)
[12:04] <arfon> 10x20?
[12:04] <arfon> Cut a head-hole?
[12:04] <Necos> you can't get blood on me... stop tryin :P
[12:05] Action: arfon gets his SuperSoaker out...  oh yeah?
[12:05] <Necos> yeah :P
[12:05] <m3tti_> windows xp fat but sexy XD
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[12:06] <arfon> -_-
[12:07] <m3tti_> do you know that
[12:07] <arfon> Windows and Sexy do not go together
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[12:08] <alisonken1home> arfon: obviously you missed the S&M version
[12:08] <arfon> No, I experienced ME
[12:08] <arfon> It was painful
[12:08] <m3tti_> More Errors
[12:09] <m3tti_> XD
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[12:09] <arfon> Anyone else think that Windows decline is mainly due to their increased WGA activity?
[12:10] <sahko> how is decline defined?
[12:10] <arfon> declined = only on one of my boxes now...  :)
[12:10] <sahko> by sales? no decline there
[12:10] <Necos> if by that you mean "problems with activation", then yes
[12:11] <arfon> How in the hell did Apple pass M$ in company size?
[12:11] <m3tti_> windoofs 7 is crap it works quite stable but i can't do anything with it XD
[12:11] <surrounder> m3tti_: that's pebkac
[12:11] <alisonken1home> considering Goldman Sacs downgraded MS from buy to neutral on stocks, I would say it was in decline
[12:12] <m3tti_> can't find anything my parents are now on slackware though
[12:12] <m3tti_> and no questions about aaaah mir virus scanner is telling me something
[12:12] <m3tti_> woot firefox has updates whats that ?
[12:13] <m3tti_> it works just fine
[12:14] <Necos> that's not so smart...
[12:14] <Necos> open source doesnt mean bug-free
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[12:14] <Zordrak> Who stole my pen?!
[12:15] <m3tti_> but it works for them without hastle
[12:15] Action: Necos pokes Zordrak in the ribs
[12:15] <m3tti_> and no anoyance
[12:15] <surrounder> m3tti_: who needs updates right ?
[12:15] <alisonken1home> security fixes are sooooo overrated
[12:15] <m3tti_> surrounder: updateing is done by myself
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[12:16] <surrounder> m3tti_: so they're depended on you... handy!
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[12:17] <Necos> not really lol
[12:18] <Necos> if m3tti_ is out trying to prey on the opposite sex, getting a call from mom and dad is gonna suck :P
[12:18] <surrounder> hehe
[12:18] <arfon> I don't update Slackware...  I'm afraid I will re-activate WGA on it.
[12:18] <arfon> [looks around]
[12:18] <NaCl> No, Linux Genuine Advantage
[12:18] Action: Necos stabs arfon
[12:18] <NaCl> http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/
[12:18] <arfon> Sorry, LGA
[12:18] Action: arfon blleds
[12:18] Action: arfon cant spell
[12:19] Action: Necos stabs arfon in the eye
[12:19] <Necos> there, fixed that for ya
[12:19] <arfon> Holy crap, is that a real site?
[12:19] <m3tti_> lol
[12:19] <m3tti_> thats a real page
[12:19] <arfon> Who said that?
[12:19] <NaCl> haha
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[12:20] <rhisa> Haha.
[12:20] <rhisa> That program is done in perl.
[12:20] <Necos> hey rhisa :)
[12:20] <rhisa> Hi Necos. :]
[12:20] <rhisa> I'm tempted to run that program.
[12:21] <m3tti_> ah btw i could also setup a cron job for the task of doing updates :-P
[12:21] <Necos> lol
[12:21] <Necos> then you should m3tti_
[12:22] <m3tti_> yes but for now i'm still at home so i could install it btw
[12:22] Action: Necos pokes m3tti_ in the ribs with a machete
[12:22] <m3tti_> in one year it would be something that has to be done
[12:22] <m3tti_> Necos: :-P
[12:22] <Necos> :D
[12:23] <rhisa> Necos, which Slack are you using, out of curiosity and did you recompile your kernel?
[12:23] <phrag> perl...
[12:23] <Necos> 13.1, and no, not this time
[12:23] Action: Necos plugs phrag's mouth with a shotgun
[12:24] <phrag> is it common practice to omit the first space of a print function in perl code ?
[12:24] <phrag> or just the examples i'm reading
[12:24] <arfon> Huh?
[12:24] <surrounder> phrag: http://fukung.net/v/11662/36107138979ed004206b4af97573ce0d.jpg - \o/
[12:24] <alisonken1home> isn't that a better question for #perl ?
[12:24] <phrag> like...  print("bleh", "meh")
[12:24] <arfon> my prints look like print "blah blah blah $blah\n";
[12:25] <arfon> Oh duh
[12:25] <Necos> that's really ugly perl coding >.> (the example phrag shows)
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[12:25] <arfon> print ("blah","blah") is much prettier
[12:26] <phrag> yeh, like http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fblob.perl.org%2Fbooks%2Fbeginning-perl%2F3145_Chap02.pdf
[12:26] <arfon> - the " " between print and "9"
[12:26] <phrag> page 51
[12:26] <phrag> the example starts print(something)
[12:26] <phrag> then carries on print (somethingelse)
[12:27] <phrag> i was just asking if it's common practice to omit the first space in print, or wether it's a weird idiosyncracy of this coder/example
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[12:28] <phrag> surrounder: lol
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[12:30] <phrag> no one use perl ?
[12:30] <alisonken1home> not if I can help it
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[12:31] <arfon> :(
[12:32] <arfon> Perl is {{{wonderful}}}  (except for a few things I would change)
[12:32] <alisonken1home> must be doing something right - haven't had to read perl now for 15 years
[12:32] Action: Necos uses perl
[12:33] <Necos> lol alisonken1home
[12:33] <NaCl> Is perl 6 ever going to be released?
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[12:34] <phrag> actually, #perl were rather friendly =)
[12:34] <Necos> yeah, heh... and parrot is pretty impressive
[12:35] <Necos> but it's hard to get people to adopt perl 6 since perl5 is so popular
[12:35] <rhisa> LEave the perl people alone.
[12:36] Action: Necos <3's perl
[12:36] <Necos> :P
[12:36] <rhisa> Me too.
[12:36] <phrag> off home, cya guys =) o/
[12:36] <arfon> alisonken1home: what do you normally script with?
[12:37] <arfon> bye phrag
[12:37] <Necos> later phrag
[12:38] <Zordrak> L8rz people.. I'm off. Tomorrow I go to Eindhoven :)
[12:39] <surrounder> have fun Zordrak !
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[12:40] <Zordrak> shitshit.... need a converter for my laptop power!
[12:40] <surrounder> bluh? you guys have different plugs :|
[12:41] <Zordrak> We have the best plugs in the world. Fact. :)
[12:41] <surrounder> damn lies! :(
[12:41] <arfon> Bye Zordrak
[12:41] <surrounder> teehee
[12:41] <Zordrak> l8r
[12:41] <rob0> So leave the laptop at home, it won't like Dutch power anyway.
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[12:43] <arfon> Zordrak = UK?
[12:43] <surrounder> yes
[12:44] <arfon> rob0 = Netherlands?
[12:44] Action: Necos stabs arfon again 
[12:44] <Necos> too many questions :)
[12:44] Action: arfon gets out the Necos straps... come here
[12:45] <arfon> Necos = Bellview?
[12:45] <arfon> :)
[12:45] Action: Necos stabs arfon again repeatedly
[12:45] <Necos> :)
[12:46] <Necos> no straps for me buddy!
[12:46] <arfon> My Slacktanium skin makes me impervious to stabs.  HA HA!
[12:48] <rob0> Eindhoven = Netherlands
[12:48] Action: Necos does `make strip-armor arfon'
[12:48] <Necos> :P
[12:48] <rob0> rob0 = Dixieland
[12:49] <rob0> hmmm, we need a .dx TLD
[12:50] <arfon> make: error! libstriparmor..so not found.
[12:50] Action: Necos wonders if rob0 has been sniffin pixie dust
[12:51] <arfon> rob0: You in Alabamy?
[12:51] <dustybin> how often do you guys run: slackpkg update ?
[12:51] <arfon> <--never
[12:51] <arfon> It scares me
[12:51] <Necos> 1-2 times / week at least
[12:51] <dustybin> why does it scare you
[12:51] <rob0> Alabamy.
[12:51] <dustybin> would it be a good idea to put it in as a cron job?
[12:52] <arfon> Too many brickings by Debian and redhat/fedora Auto-dependancy managers
[12:52] <Necos> lol
[12:52] <Necos> slackpkg (and by extension, pkgtools) isn't like those other package managers
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[12:53] <dustybin> No changes in ChangeLog.txt between your last update and now
[12:53] <dustybin> all it does i update packates
[12:53] <dustybin> packages
[12:53] <dustybin> nothing fancy
[12:53] <arfon> That's like telling an acrophobe that a helicopter isn't like a tall building
[12:53] <dustybin> it updates to latest patches
[12:53] <dustybin> not latest versions of software
[12:54] <arfon> Eh, I'll try it.
[12:54] <Necos> i'm keeping my repo set for 13.1, so i only get security updates
[12:54] <arfon> But when I get bricked, I'm calling you at 3am!
[12:54] <dustybin> :o
[12:54] <arfon> :)
[12:55] <Necos> hope you have plenty of long distance minutes
[12:57] <dustybin> i just had a crazy idea
[12:57] <Necos> uh oh
[12:57] Action: Necos gets the fire extinguisher ready
[12:59] <raela> anyone know the magic sysrq command offhand to get X back from frozen?
[12:59] <arfon> CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[12:59] <arfon> Only one I know
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[13:00] <alisonken1home> or if the keyboard appears blocked, ssh into it and "killall X"
[13:00] <raela> I said magic sysrq :P
[13:00] <raela> I don't know the ip to it
[13:00] <arfon> ssh localhost
[13:00] <alisonken1home> that only works if you're on the same machines
[13:01] <arfon> CTRL ALT F2 (?)...  ssh localhost
[13:01] <arfon> you know what Imean
[13:01] <raela> no.. ctrl+alt, and capslock, does nothing
[13:01] <arfon> you're doing it wrong... :)
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[13:02] <raela> mpg123 is still going
[13:02] <surrounder> raela: ctrl+alt+backspace should work.. ?
[13:02] <arfon> mpg123 is a console app isn't it?
[13:02] <surrounder> it is
[13:02] <raela> ah!
[13:03] <raela> capslock is going now
[13:03] <Necos> maybe it was just lag
[13:03] <raela> no nothing else is working
[13:04] <arfon> I wish you could get to a CLI and do a top
[13:04] <arfon> BBL guys, lunch!
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[13:05] <erik> raela, there's a table of magic sysrq keys at wikipedia
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[13:07] <raela> yeah alt-sysrq-g isn't taking me out of X
[13:07] <raela> and it does have intel kms
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[13:09] <erik> maybe k? then login blind and type reset
[13:11] <dustybin> anybody here use newsgroups?
[13:11] <dustybin> *read
[13:12] <Necos> it's hard to get usenet access these days :(
[13:12] <dustybin> aye ok
[13:12] <dustybin> i think mail lists are just as good
[13:12] <Necos> just as slow >.>
[13:13] <raela> I just rebooted it.. so annoying
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[13:18] <sahko> dustybin: why are you asking?
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[13:20] <usr13> What is a good alternative for x11vnc?
[13:20] <Necos> tigervnc according to theBOB
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[13:21] <dustybin> 18:07 < dustybin> *read
[13:21] <dustybin> 18:08 < Necos> it's hard to get usenet access these days :(
[13:21] <dustybin> 18:08 < dustybin> aye ok
[13:21] <alisonken1home> not tightvnc?
[13:22] <dustybin> wrong paste
[13:22] <dustybin> Mutt 1.5.21 was released on September 15, 2010
[13:22] <dustybin> :D
[13:22] <dustybin> this version of mutt will work with abook :D
[13:22] <Necos> tigervnc is supposed to be the new fork of tightvnc
[13:22] Action: dustybin feels really excited
[13:23] <dustybin> x11vnc is a server
[13:23] <dustybin> not a client
[13:24] <Necos> tigervnc.org
[13:24] <Necos> :P
[13:24] <Necos> same shit dustybin
[13:26] <sahko> isnt nx preferred these days?
[13:26] <dustybin> i cant remember the name
[13:26] <dustybin> somebody linked me to one yesterday
[13:26] <dustybin> k rdp
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[13:26] <dustybin> something like that
[13:27] <dustybin> krdc
[13:27] <dustybin> that works ok
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[13:28] <dustybin> ohh thats mutt dev
[13:28] <sahko> dustybin: in case you didnt notice Slackware switched too mutt-dev in -current
[13:29] <sahko> s/too/to/
[13:29] <sahko> it has 1.5.20 now
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[13:42] <dustybin> "<shell-escape>abook<return>"
[13:42] <dustybin> what is the symbol for return?
[13:42] <bogusjokes> both mpd and ncmpcpp is set up to utf8, my system utf8, my files utf8, but I can't see the songs with special characters in the filename anyway
[13:42] <bogusjokes> anybody who knows why?
[13:43] <sahko> maybe the font doesnt have those characters
[13:44] <bogusjokes> shouldn't be that
[13:44] <Necos> because you don't have the right character encoding enabled?
[13:44] <bogusjokes> since I can see them when I ls in the directory
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[13:52] <vdv> offtop: i prepare slides that show scores collected by a team who take first place in championship, which title would be appropriate for those slides? :)
[13:53] <vdv> content of the slides is "First Round: OurTeam vs Team1 4:3, OurTeam vs Team2 3:3"
[13:54] <vdv> for example :)
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[13:58] <dustybin> I got mutt + abook working in stable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:58] <dustybin> if i press q it queries my address book
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[13:59] <dustybin> if i press a it adds a address to abook
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[13:59] <dustybin> if i press A it launches abook
[13:59] <dustybin> :D
[13:59] Action: dustybin feels really happy
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[14:00] <gtludwig> does slackware (and Linux per sè) support sata 6gbps hds "out-of-the-box"?
[14:02] <Necos> why wouldn't it?
[14:02] <linXea> yes, if you hardware support it
[14:02] <linXea> *your
[14:04] <gtludwig> thought so! I just wondered if there were any special parameter to add to /etc/fstab
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[14:07] <arfon> Howdy
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[14:13] <Necos> no, because fstab doesn't care about hardware... only your hardware supports hardware
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[14:20] <arfon> You and your stabbing... fstab this, fstab that
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[14:23] <arfon> :)
[14:23] Action: arfon fstabs Necos 
[14:24] Action: Necos stabs arfon a few more times for good measure
[14:25] <KilroyHiggins> Anyone around here know how I can buy a laptop with no OS on it?
[14:25] <arfon> Windows doesn't count as an OS so buy any.
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[14:26] <KilroyHiggins> har, but I'm trying to get, say a Lenovo X100e but without Redmondware coming on it
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[14:26] <arfon> Good luck storming the castle.
[14:27] <arfon> fdisk does wonders
[14:27] <Alan_Hicks> KilroyHiggins: You can sometimes order one from a local store with no OS, but quality is a crapshoot.
[14:28] <KilroyHiggins> that it does; but I was just hoping to save a few bucks and save myself the time of going around trying to pull the old give me a refund routine
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[14:28] <arfon> Eh, the OS is so discounted, is it worth it?
[14:28] <KilroyHiggins> I'm only going to be putting slackware on it anyway
[14:29] <KilroyHiggins> save me a few moments of my time and $50 at least
[14:29] <Alan_Hicks> KilroyHiggins: With a laptop without Office and other crazy junk installed, the OS probably ammounts to about $65 bucks from some place like Dell.
[14:29] <arfon> They'll probably just send you a Microsoft coupon good for $50 off your next Micfrosoft purchase.  :)
[14:30] <Alan_Hicks> Microsoft.  I always thought that was a horrible name.  I can just picture Bill Gates in a commercial with Smilin' Bob.
[14:30] <KilroyHiggins> Well, there was a Micro-soft Bob.
[14:31] <Alan_Hicks> True.
[14:31] <arfon> back in 1975 Micro Soft was a cool name..  okay, nerdy cool...  okay nerdy
[14:31] <Alan_Hicks> Microsoft today just sounds like a small guy with erectile disfunction.
[14:31] <KilroyHiggins> heheh. Well, I guess if any other search method fails, i guess I could email lenovo just to see if they might do it.
[14:32] <Alan_Hicks> KilroyHiggins: Don't count on it.
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[14:32] <arfon> Wouldn't that be a SoftMicro?
[14:32] <KilroyHiggins> yeah, I'm not exactly hopeful in my disposition anyhow
[14:33] <arfon> KilroyHiggins: fight battles 1) That you can win.  2) Gains you something significant.
[14:33] <arfon> You're gonna age yourself with stress for $50.
[14:34] <KilroyHiggins> I was just looking for the sake of looking, I'm not up for going on a march like they did before to get refunds on an OS.
[14:35] <arfon> Ok.
[14:35] <Alan_Hicks> Yeah, getting the microsoft tax back isn't a hill worth dying on.
[14:36] <rob0> One thing that would be fun to do is to tell them you'll give away copies of it, since you are not bound by their EULA.
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[14:37] <Alan_Hicks> rob0: HAHAHA
[14:38] <arfon> Nice
[14:38] <surrounder> rob0: lol
[14:38] <KilroyHiggins> nice one.
[14:38] <rob0> I had two Acer craptops with the MS tax, but at the time I was working, didn't have time to pursue it, unfortunately.
[14:39] <arfon> So....  If you buy a game...  get someone else to install it on your machine, are you bound by the EULA????
[14:39] <rob0> strictly speaking, I would say no, unless you gave them authority to act as your proxy
[14:39] <arfon> nice...
[14:40] <rob0> Software EULAs probably wouldn't stand up in court.
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[14:40] <rob0> You have to agree to even look at the software. That's coerced.
[14:41] <Alan_Hicks> I wouldn't make any bets about that.  Software companies would spend a ton of money to be sure those things stood up in court.
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[14:41] <rob0> No, it would be cheaper to buy out the rare few that try to fight.
[14:41] <Alan_Hicks> If a court was to rule differently, you can bet the companies would get Congress to pass a law making EULAs dangerously enforceable.
[14:41] <rob0> and that has the double benefit of not establishing any jurisprudent precedents
[14:42] Action: rob0 bets "jurisprudent" is not a word
[14:43] <KilroyHiggins> it is
[14:43] <KilroyHiggins> condition of being jurisprudence
[14:43] <arfon> is it
[14:43] <arfon> (see what I did there?)
[14:43] <KilroyHiggins> (yarp)
[14:47] <arfon> Do you need certs for TLS connections?
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[14:47] <mancha> yes
[14:47] <arfon> bah
[14:48] <arfon> What ever happened to the trust of a good old fashion handshake?
[14:48] <Alan_Hicks> arfon: That was made illegal by the Americans with Disabilities Act because not everyone has hands.
[14:49] <surrounder> haha
[14:49] <arfon> First they wanted ramps everywhere, now handshakes are no good...  what is this world coming to???
[14:49] <KilroyHiggins> moving sidewalks and elevators everywhere.
[14:50] <mancha> arfon the whole infrastructure is premised on you accepting the credentials as legitimate.
[14:50] <arfon> Like George Jetson, nice!
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[14:50] <mancha> so unless the hand has a tatto signed by verisign this won't do.
[14:51] Action: arfon thinks of bender looking for a hand in his chest...
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[14:51] <arfon> So, if I install a self signed cert for apache, anything special to get it to play with TLS?
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[14:54] <mancha> arfon not sure how to answer that
[14:55] <mancha> you can use a self signed cert to serve up ssl encrypted web pages (aka https) if that was the question.
[14:55] <arfon> NP
[14:56] <arfon> No, I already do that...   I'm curious as to how to set up a server to accept TLS/SMTP connections
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[14:56] <arfon> Server = my existing script
[14:56] <mancha> ok, tls is the protocol name (what many call ssl)
[14:57] <arfon> yep.
[14:57] <mancha> so that is why it is hard to understand questions "...anything special to get it to play with TLS"
[14:57] <mancha> HTTPS uses TLS, grok me?
[14:58] <arfon> I haven't looked it it in awhile but I recall stunnel to be the answer
[14:58] <Alan_Hicks> arfon: What are you trying to encrypt?
[14:58] <arfon> Not https, I'm trying to make my smtp script more secure
[14:59] <mancha> arfon, you're misusing terms so it is very confusing to understand you
[14:59] <arfon> Trying to get my script to accept encrypted smtp connections
[14:59] <arfon> (I do that often)
[14:59] <Alan_Hicks> arfon: Your script?
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[15:00] <arfon> Yes, I wrote a recieve only smtp server
[15:00] <mancha> there is a secure smtp implementation, called smtps
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[15:00] <mancha> sendmail can do this with starttls
[15:01] <Alan_Hicks> arfon: Why not just use a real smtp server?  postfix is easy to setup and will give you full TLS support.
[15:01] <arfon> You have to forgive me...  I had to wrie a POP server also to be able to use my SMTP server so I may be getting the different security measures mixed up.
[15:01] <arfon> I'm abput to Alan_Hicks
[15:01] <Alan_Hicks> Whoa whoa whoa...  Why are you writing your own SMTP and POP3 servers?
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[15:02] <mancha> you wrote an smtp and pop3 server
[15:02] <mancha> ?
[15:02] <mancha> pics or it didn't happen.
[15:02] <arfon> Alan_Hicks: Wrote...  several years ago
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[15:02] <Alan_Hicks> arfon: ... why?
[15:02] <arfon> Cheapassmta.wikispaces.com
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[15:02] <arfon> 'cause e-mail is plain text, IT SHOULDN'T BE SO FRIGGIN HARD TO CONFIGURE..  :)
[15:03] <arfon> I wrote a gimped (but working smtp and pop server)
[15:03] <Alan_Hicks> arfon: Use postfix and dovecot.  The docs are very good and configuration is realtively simple.
[15:03] <mancha> or sendmail+cyrus (already on slackware)
[15:04] <arfon> I'm about to Alan_Hicks, that's why I was asking about POP and IMAP daemons yesterday
[15:05] <mancha> what language are the pop3 and smtp servers in, and did you code the tcp/ip layer yourself or use other people's gpl'd code?
[15:06] <arfon> Perl, tcp/ip is handled by inetd, code is all my own (which is why it's scary)
[15:06] <Alan_Hicks> You should never ever run some SMTP service that you wrote yourself.
[15:06] <Alan_Hicks> That's a good way to become a spam relay.
[15:07] <arfon> HA HA!!!!  I did for years!
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[15:07] <arfon> neener neener
[15:07] <arfon> Recieve only
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[15:07] <arfon> Used my ISP for outgoing :)
[15:08] <arfon> Aww, your confidence in my coding ability is both hurtful and refreshing...
[15:08] <Alan_Hicks> You disgust me.  May you contract an incurable penis rotting desease.
[15:08] <arfon> :)
[15:08] <Alan_Hicks> :^)
[15:09] <arfon> Oh man, so many responses...  none of them clean  :)
[15:09] <mancha> you do need to stop incorrectly using the term "tls" though
[15:09] <arfon> K
[15:09] <arfon> ssl
[15:10] <mancha> that's worse
[15:10] <arfon> Aww...
[15:11] <arfon> "The connection type that is not to be named"?
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[15:12] <arfon> What's the correct name?
[15:12] <mancha> nobody knows
[15:12] <mancha> cause you're not making anything clear, just throwing around some technical jargon  :)
[15:13] <Alan_Hicks> mancha: Sounds a lot like a suit talking tech don't it?
[15:13] <mancha> heh
[15:13] <mwalling> wheres my jack and my bingo card!
[15:13] <arfon> What, I think it's perfectly clear that I'm trying to reduce the QoS over my TLS'd HTTP connections by using Layer 3 protocol.
[15:14] <mancha> if i use a cert cant i make my tls work with inet to serve the apache while encrypting the authentication for my port?
[15:14] <Alan_Hicks> There is no such thing as TLS'd HTTP
[15:14] <mwalling> (yet)
[15:14] <mwalling> isnt it in HTTP/1.1's RFC?
[15:14] <arfon> :)
[15:14] <Alan_Hicks> mwalling: I don't think so.
[15:15] <mancha> reduce your QoS? what does that even mean?
[15:15] <arfon> No mwalling, it's in an ISO....
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[15:15] <Alan_Hicks> I'm not even gonna bother...
[15:15] <arfon> :)
[15:15] <mwalling> Alan_Hicks: 2817, same one that defines CONNECT
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[15:15] <zongo> greetings Guys
[15:16] <arfon> I swear, my boring days go by so fast when I chat with you guys....
[15:16] <mancha> i've concluded arfon's a troll  :)
[15:16] <arfon> ...and my co-workers think I'm a working machine by my typing clicks.
[15:16] <arfon> No, the troll is in the cube behind me
[15:17] <mwalling> Alan_Hicks: i dont know if any httpds actually impliment Upgrade from 2817, but its there
[15:17] <mancha> mwalling 2660
[15:17] <Alan_Hicks> mwalling: I know apache doesn't.
[15:17] <Alan_Hicks> I'm not certain any web browsers impliment it either.
[15:17] <mwalling> but there *IS* TLSd HTTP
[15:18] <Alan_Hicks> mwalling: No, there's an RFC describing it.  There's also an RFC describing TCP via carrier pidgeon, but that doesn't mean it exists anywhere.
[15:18] <Alan_Hicks> And no, some one doing it once as a joke doesn't count.
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[15:18] <arfon> I should script that
[15:19] Action: arfon gets out Pigerl for Dummies book
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[15:20] <WhiteWolf1776> "hey, my blt drive just went awol and if I don't get that port open mr suzuki is going to ask me to commit hari kari... so can you help me out?"
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[15:20] <BP{k}> we can stab you instead, yes.
[15:20] <Alan_Hicks> WhiteWolf1776: Sure thing.  YOu'll need to wait until the next season starts though, since the Cubs didn't make the playoffs.
[15:21] <mancha> how many calories in a blt drive?
[15:21] Action: WhiteWolf1776 thinks some of you haven't seen hackers
[15:21] <WhiteWolf1776> :P
[15:21] <Necos> lol
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[15:21] Action: Alan_Hicks thinks some of you don't know who Harry Carey was.
[15:21] <mwalling> Alan_Hicks: fuck, i was just about to say that 1149 had been implemented
[15:21] <arfon> mancha: 42
[15:21] <BP{k}> WhiteWolf1776: that would be an assumption on your part. Besides you forgot the part about "You know those japanese management techniques"
[15:21] <mwalling> Alan_Hicks: then i read the next line
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[15:22] <WhiteWolf1776> lol
[15:22] <mancha> these days it is hard to run a web server with self signed certs i think
[15:23] <mancha> don't all the browsers these day make you jump through hoops to accept the "renegade" certificate that can't be authenticated? firefox does...
[15:23] <Alan_Hicks> mancha: It's not hard at all, you just have to put up with clients getting a warning.
[15:23] <arfon> Is there a way to add yourself to FF's CA list?
[15:24] <mancha> either have FF accept you or else deploy your root cert to all your clients
[15:24] <mancha> alan that is what i meant by hard, most non-technical people would not survive ff's process of accepting a non-root-validated cert
[15:24] <Necos> mancha, is there any sane way to do that cross platform?
[15:24] <Alan_Hicks> Really though, you can get certs really cheap these days.
[15:25] <mwalling> theres an open bug in mozilla's bugzilla to get CACert's root cert into FF. it has good insight
[15:25] <Alan_Hicks> GoDaddy charges something like $25 a year.
[15:25] <mancha> Necos, the answer is to cave and get it signed by a root cert thats part of the existing mafia
[15:25] <mancha> signed by a root CA i meant
[15:25] <Alan_Hicks> $200 a year if you want a cert that gives you the blue or green bar in the top of the broswer.
[15:26] <arfon> I found out that cacert.org isn't automatically accepted by FF...
[15:26] <Necos> i mean, deploying the cert
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[15:26] <Necos> we have a cert issued by the school district that we need to import on all of our workstations... i still haven't figured out a way to do it outside of manually (PITA)
[15:27] <mancha> package the cert, pks or whatever and have them click it
[15:27] <WhiteWolf1776> on self signed cert... um... they are kinda useless
[15:27] <mancha> not useless at all
[15:27] <Necos> if you're using a transparent proxy, it's great
[15:27] <WhiteWolf1776> I mean, the whole point is to talk securely from client to server... so if you signed it yourself I can just intercept your traffic with my own self signed cert and read the traffic
[15:28] <mancha> if your end goal is encryption then who cares who signed the cert?
[15:28] <mancha> a signed cert is for authentication, not encryption
[15:28] <WhiteWolf1776> if a third party doesn't verify your server is the real one... why should a client trust it is?
[15:28] <WhiteWolf1776> with self signed you have to give the client the cert ahead of time, then there can be trust
[15:29] <mancha> i.e both self-signed and officially-signed can encrypt, the question is do you believe it is who it says it is if is self-signed
[15:29] <dustybin> the good thing about everybody using smart phones these days - you can now email your friends instead of using SMS texts
[15:29] <Necos> SMS is usually faster, depending on their email service
[15:30] <mancha> it really is a great business model this signed cert thing...
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[15:30] <arfon> Yeah it is...  $200 for a few bytes of data
[15:31] <mancha> and what added benefit do you get White?
[15:31] <arfon> ...that gets renewed .
[15:31] <Necos> verisign used to be like 10k
[15:31] <mancha> those first few made bundles, verisign, thawte, etc
[15:31] <admboom> for a wildcard domain, they are still like a grand or something insane
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[15:32] <WhiteWolf1776> on the web, an application that needs a cert and is publicly used needs a third party verification on the cert to prevent hijacking.  having to send the cert to your clients ahead of time is not useful.  having the client accept "whatever cert" is equally not useful
[15:33] <arfon> So, is using cacert a bad idea?
[15:33] <Necos> no, i don't think so...
[15:33] <WhiteWolf1776> arfon, for testing, etc, no.... if you are going public for more than your grandma... get a real one
[15:33] <dustybin> can urxvt title bar change with the name of the application running inside the terminal?
[15:33] <arfon> Gah, I guess I'll spend the $12 then  :(
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[15:37] <mancha> did the tls renegotiation stuff come out as rfc yet?
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[15:39] <mwalling> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215243 < bug for getting CACert's root CA in firefox
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[15:41] <arfon> mwalling: HA HA!!!  "SSL error:unable to get local issuer certificate-Continue? (y)"
[15:41] <adrien> hahaha
[15:41] <adrien> Dylan      2003-08-06 05:18:32 PDT
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[15:45] <Necos> dustybin i think it can
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[15:47] <mancha> there's a security release acrobat reader out today folks.
[15:47] <dustybin> Necos: i need to edit .screenrc
[15:48] <zongo> Guys, the slackpkg upgrade packagename is going to look for the most recent official version.
[15:49] <Necos> huh dustybin?
[15:49] <dustybin> i used screen inside my terminal
[15:49] <alienBOB> Only after you ran "slackpkg update" first zongo
[15:49] <Necos> what zongo?
[15:49] <zongo> What would be my best approach to update a package not officially ?
[15:49] <dustybin> .screenrc is capable of changing your terminal title
[15:49] <alienBOB> Download it and use upgradepkg zongo
[15:50] <zongo> alienBOB: downloading the raw tar ball would do ?
[15:50] <WhiteWolf1776> zongo, check out slackbuilds.org
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[15:50] <WhiteWolf1776> it will help you build a slackware package you can then install with installpkg
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[15:51] <zongo> so basically make a tgz with the new package and then upgrade
[15:51] <teckan> is there any easy explanation for my up-arrow key behaviour after my last kernel patch update? i am not able to use it inside X, basically.
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[15:52] <alienBOB> zongo: if you already had an older version of a software, you typically perform the same steps again to install a newer version
[15:52] <zongo> ok got it, thanks Guys
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[16:22] <m3tti> wowowow
[16:22] <m3tti> do you like acustic stuff ????
[16:22] <m3tti> i've just found some great c64 acustic game music remakes
[16:23] <m3tti> http://www.headphonica.com/?p=1063
[16:23] <m3tti> they sound awesome
[16:25] Action: alienBOB is listening at Splodge's 'Mouth and Trousers'... a bit different than c64 sounds
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[16:26] <m3tti> but its acusitc with piano und stuff like that
[16:26] <WhiteWolf1776> after ff7... game music just never came up to that level again for me... even ff7 ;)
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[16:26] <m3tti> alienBOB: btw thanx for the usb creator that saves my life
[16:28] <NyteOwl> g'day
[16:28] <m3tti> g day
[16:30] <m3tti> ??
[16:31] <WhiteWolf1776> cherio and all that ;)
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[16:32] <arfon> MMmm cheerios
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[16:33] <m3tti> http://www.archive.org/download/headphonica.hpcd082/Various_Artists__seed64__07.mp3 that sounds great
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[16:37] <WhiteWolf1776> ok.. it's been a long long time since i spent any real time on irc... what are you guys using now?  xchat?
[16:38] <arfon> irssi
[16:39] <adrien> irssi too: the comfort of shells =)
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[16:53] <m3tti> irssi !!!
[16:53] <m3tti> or even erc from emacs
[16:54] Action: WhiteWolf1776 doesn't have enough fingers for emacs commands.... and isn't sure how emacs found all those 14 fingered people to use it ;)
[16:57] <BobbyFischer> vi commands seems easy to memorize !
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[16:58] <arfon> :qw
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[16:59] <gniks> :qw won't work
[16:59] <arfon> Does that even work?
[16:59] <gniks> has to be :wq
[16:59] <gniks> write then quit
[16:59] <arfon> :wq  I'm lesdyxic
[16:59] <gniks> not quite then write :p
[16:59] <BobbyFischer> LOL !
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[17:04] <tsccof> ebigmacs is a good hamburger
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[17:08] <arfon> I prefer scrambled egcs.
[17:09] <jeev> sunny side up
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[17:14] <jeev> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl5gBJGnaXs
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[17:19] <adrien> reminds me: could be nice if slackboy gave the titles of URLs that are posted
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[17:20] <pprkut> Anyone good with decrypting autotools?
[17:20] <adrien> what exactly? (you know: don't ask to ask, just ask :P )
[17:20] <pprkut> :P
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[17:21] <pprkut> config.status: error: cannot find input file: `Makefile.in'
[17:21] Action: edman007 slaps pprkut 
[17:22] <edman007> you should know better..
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[17:22] <pprkut> Makefile.in is available in the same directory
[17:22] <edman007> pprkut, you didn't download the dev version (usually svn/git), a lot of projects remove them on the released version..
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[17:22] <edman007> and it may be refering to a Makefile.in in some other location
[17:23] <edman007> or is this when running ./configure?
[17:23] <pprkut> exactly
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[17:23] <pprkut> afaics, there's a Makefile.in everywhere there should be
[17:24] <alienBOB> Blame the developers pprkut?
[17:24] <alienBOB> What software is this?
[17:24] <pprkut> That's always a good solution :)
[17:24] <pprkut> aacgain
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[17:25] <adrien> checked that git/svn/cvs/rcs/whatever HEAD didn't have it?
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[17:25] <pprkut> didn't have what?
[17:26] <adrien> that file
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[17:27] <pprkut> yah, one would guess answering that question would be easy
[17:27] <pprkut> err, I'm sure it's not available in the original upstream code
[17:28] <pprkut> aacgain is really weird to build and expects a lot of manual work
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[17:28] <pprkut> I guess I just send config.log to the upstream dev and let him figure out what's wrong with his code
[17:28] <adrien> ok, usual solution then: write your own, you've already spent 30 minutes on that, it can't be a very complicated piece of code, you can probably do it in less than one hour and get something better/faster in less than two :P
[17:29] <pprkut> hah
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[17:29] <pprkut> I'm that close to suggesting him to move to cmake :P
[17:30] <edman007> pprkut, have you tried ./autogen.sh ?
[17:30] <edman007> or whatever they have that does that
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[17:31] <pprkut> yes, syntax error at line 72, really ugly
[17:32] <adrien> s/ugly/expected for autotools/
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[17:32] <adrien> (yet, I love autotools because it works everywhere [ once it works somewhere...] and handles cross-compilation nicely [ which cmake is only starting to do ])
[17:33] <b00z> look at README.linux. you'll need some git for aacgain and mp3gain,aside faad2 and mp4v2
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[17:35] <pprkut> hmm, might try something
[17:35] <b00z> http://mp3gain.cvs.sourceforge.net/mp3gain/
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[17:38] <pprkut> nope, no success :/
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[17:40] <b00z> http://pastebin.com/q4bbJHRf
[17:41] <pprkut> b00z: yes, I've read that file
[17:41] <pprkut> reading documentation is fine, until the point where whatever's described is not working
[17:42] <b00z> http://pastebin.com/bLa7w36z ;-)
[17:43] <pprkut> so, it works for you. That's good. What system are you on?
[17:43] <b00z> you should execute make at the base dir
[17:43] <b00z> slackware64 current
[17:43] <pprkut> ya... here's a hint, I'm not getting past configure ;)
[17:44] <b00z> :)
[17:44] <b00z> i lost some hair too
[17:45] <pprkut> can you maybe pastebin your config.log, preferable only the config.status related stuff
[17:46] <pprkut> hmm, doesn't look to be autotools version, didn't update so far in -current
[17:46] <b00z> config.log from basedir: http://pastebin.com/MN9QzbtG
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[17:48] <pprkut> according to this it doesn't find my top-level Makefile.in
[17:48] <pprkut> b00z: did you use prepare.sh?
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[17:55] <pprkut> bummer, also breaks on my other 32bit machine :(
[17:55] <pprkut> so nothing system specific
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[17:56] <b00z> yes and don not forget the patch
[17:56] <b00z> patch -p0 <mp4v2.patch (optional but recommended, see main README for details)
[17:56] <b00z> when building libmp4v2
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[17:57] <pprkut> no, that's fine. prepare.sh doesn't work for me :/
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[18:00] <b00z> :[
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[18:05] <pprkut> so, now I have prepare.sh running, and it still fails. oh the joy
[18:05] <thrice`> pprkut, download an rpm / deb package and convert it :)
[18:05] <b00z> executing make from basedir?
[18:06] <pprkut> b00z: I don't have Makefiles to do anything with, configure fails
[18:06] <b00z> sheese!
[18:06] <thrice`> pprkut, how does it fail?
[18:07] <pprkut> thrice`: so far I think it's only in macports. Maybe debian, not sure
[18:07] <b00z> i think prepare.sh should do the makefiles...
[18:07] <b00z> i had some trouble too, but I have some bad memmo =]
[18:08] <pprkut> thrice`: config.status: error: cannot find input file: `Makefile.in'
[18:09] <thrice`> lol,
[18:09] <thrice`> nice error :p
[18:09] <pprkut> indeed
[18:10] <b00z> cd ../..
[18:10] <b00z> ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib64 --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --build=x86_64-slackware-linux
[18:10] <b00z> make
[18:12] <b00z> i have basedir -> aacgain -> linux
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[18:12] <b00z> inside linux = prepare.sh
[18:12] <b00z> and the thing was built...
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[18:15] <pprkut> yep, not working
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[18:17] <pprkut> aaaaaaah, that damn bastard :((((
[18:17] <pprkut> dos line endings in configure.ac
[18:19] <b00z> =]]
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[18:21] <pprkut> now it's working. sheesh
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[18:22] <pprkut> b00z: thanks for the hints. I'm still not sure why it worked for you :S
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[18:25] <b00z> nice frined, nice
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[18:35] <Soul_keeper> hello
[18:35] <Soul_keeper> does anyone have a dvd burner here and want to talk about it ? :)
[18:38] <hiptobecubic> Mine is broken
[18:39] <Skywise> use a usb drive instead
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[18:44] <hiptobecubic> I built tor from SBo and it works, but not with torctl. Running 'tor' starts things and runs successfully. `torctl start` gives a totally unhelpful error. http://vpaste.net/sq3Oh
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[18:48] <mancha> hrmm, i don't have a torctl
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[18:50] <Soul_keeper> my dvd drive appears to be broken, just made 15 coasters
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[18:50] <andarius> greetings and salutations
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[18:53] <Soul_keeper> andarius, hello
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[18:54] <Soul_keeper> how long does it take you guys to md5sum /dev/dvd  with a slackware dvd in it ?
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[18:58] <ridout> Roughly a few minutes.
[18:58] Action: GuardabosqueS nas noches
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[18:59] <mancha> nas noches
[19:00] <ridout> If you're just using a basic md5sum /dev/dvd to compare against the checksum of the iso, you'll never get identical checksums.
[19:00] <Soul_keeper> ridout, mine has been going for over an hour, I guess it's broken
[19:00] <mancha> why never?
[19:00] <ridout> That's way too long.
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[19:00] <ridout> DVD recording processes zero pad until the end of a 32k segment.
[19:01] <mancha> ridout, depends on your padding flags when you burn, but point taken
[19:03] <m3tti> ah damn building gnash :-(
[19:04] <m3tti> i'm on it to build a slackbuild script hope it'll work :-D
[19:04] <mancha> ridout if the padding is only at the end you can solve by only checking until the length of the .iso file
[19:04] Action: GuardabosqueS ta mañana
[19:05] <thumbs> GuardabosqueS: did you wish to partake in the discussion, or you're just spamming us?
[19:05] <ridout> mancha: Yep, that is what I do.
[19:06] <GuardabosqueS> thumbs,  sorry, I just made a /ame, in my language
[19:06] <thumbs> GuardabosqueS: ah, don't do that.
[19:06] <GuardabosqueS> thumbs,  I forgotten it is not permitted here
[19:07] <GuardabosqueS> thumbs,  I was adviced, but i forgotten, sorry
[19:07] <ridout> dd if=/dev/dvd | head -c file_size_of_iso | md5sum
[19:07] <GuardabosqueS> in spanish i only said "see you tomorrow"
[19:07] <GuardabosqueS> :)
[19:07] <mancha> ridout, yeah that would work
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[19:08] <mancha> filesize in chars of the iso, though, be mndful of that
[19:08] <thumbs> GuardabosqueS: I can read Spanish, yes.
[19:08] <mancha> er bytes. i meant.
[19:08] <GuardabosqueS> thumbs,  :)
[19:09] <Soul_keeper> http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Internal-Drive-SH-S243N-BEBS/dp/B003LL1STM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1286319855&sr=8-1
[19:09] <Soul_keeper> what do you guys think of that ?
[19:09] <mancha> ridout, why do you pipe from dd? does head not handle device files?
[19:09] <GuardabosqueS> thumbs,  perhaps your spanish is bettan than my english :)
[19:09] <thumbs> GuardabosqueS: si.
[19:10] <GuardabosqueS> better*
[19:10] <b00z> need to go...
[19:10] <GuardabosqueS> ok xd
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[19:10] <Soul_keeper> any problems with sata burners in linux ?
[19:10] <thumbs> Soul_keeper: works fine here.
[19:11] <Soul_keeper> i'm about to order that drive right now
[19:11] <ridout> mancha: I've never tried without dd.
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[19:11] <thumbs> Soul_keeper: I've yet to make a coaster with mine.
[19:11] <GuardabosqueS> Soul_keeper,  my k3b don't bunr .iso well...
[19:11] Action: ridout tests this.
[19:13] <Soul_keeper> I can get next day shipping on that drive from amazon, and it's still 10% cheaper than best buy :)
[19:14] <ridout> mancha: It appears that dd isn't needed.  Thanks for the tip.
[19:14] <mancha> ridout you're welcome.
[19:14] <ridout> It's akin to UUOC.  :)
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[19:17] <GuardabosqueS> what do you think it[ better iptables or nftables?
[19:17] <thumbs> GuardabosqueS: it depends on your requirements.
[19:18] <GuardabosqueS> i want "study" one of then, i just was finding about them in google
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[19:19] <GuardabosqueS> thumbs,  ummm, my requirements... only a single user of slack, and my knowlwges in linux are few few
[19:19] <GuardabosqueS> like my english xd
[19:20] <GuardabosqueS> i only want to protect my computer from atacks
[19:20] <thumbs> GuardabosqueS: iptables is fine.
[19:20] <nesv> Hi everybody! How are you all doing tonight?
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[19:21] <GuardabosqueS> thumbs,  ok, I'll begin by iptables xd
[19:21] <nesv> Is it possible to force a specific driver for a device through a udev rule?
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[19:23] <Soul_keeper> looks like dd will take an hour on this drive too ...
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[19:25] <nesv> Soul_keeper: What size the the drive you're copying?
[19:26] <Soul_keeper> nesv, sorry, I should have directed my comment at someone :/  the drive is broken
[19:26] <nesv> Hah - it's alright. :)
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[19:27] <nesv> How is it broken? Heads chattering?
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[19:29] <nesv> Soul_keeper, are the heads chattering?
[19:30] <Soul_keeper> no
[19:30] <Soul_keeper> the read light seems to turn off almost all the time  (used to be on constantly while reading/writing)
[19:31] <Soul_keeper> and I get write errors of various kinds when trying to burn,  just ordered a replacement :)
[19:32] <nesv> Ah, gotcha. :)
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[20:19] <jeev> what do you guys do to prevent arp spoofing, mitm attacks and shit
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[20:22] <thrice`> I sleep with your mother
[20:23] <nooper> ssl?
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[20:23] <mancha> there are some imperfect solutions, lookt at arpon
[20:24] <jeev> thrice`, that was my father.
[20:24] <jeev> nooper, mitm ssl. ever try spoofing and stealing someone's login? i've done it as a proof of concept a lot. people shit themselves
[20:24] <jeev> arpon
[20:24] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[20:24] <jeev> say it again
[20:24] <jeev> it's like head-on
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[20:31] <logia_th> jeev, man in the middle and arp spoofing are well know and well documented... the two are olds hens, I think, three days reading it
[20:33] <jeev> yea..
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[20:34] <gniks> the issue with arp security is that for arp to work, it needs to pretty much be left out in the open
[20:34] <gniks> it was one of those wonderful trust based protocols like DNS
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[20:50] <nyRednek> that was odd...
[20:50] <Necos> heya nyRednek
[20:50] <nyRednek> i installed kde4 after removing kde3, then links wouldn't work without a reboot
[20:51] <Necos> >.>
[20:51] <Necos> lib still in memory?
[20:52] <nyRednek> not sure
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[20:54] <stinky>  /w 1
[20:54] <Necos> ...
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[20:54] <nyRednek> it works now
[20:55] <mancha> it was protesting your decision
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[20:55] <arfon> Howdy
[20:56] <arfon> Alan_Hicks on?
[20:56] <Necos> lol nyRednek can't have kde4 'cause kde3 said so...
[20:56] Action: Necos stabs arfon 
[20:56] <Necos> :)
[20:56] Action: arfon fstabs Necos 
[20:56] <nyRednek> Necos: i got it fixed
[20:56] <arfon> :P
[20:56] <nyRednek> mancha: yeah, figured as much
[20:57] Action: Necos vfstabs arfon 
[20:57] <Necos> :D
[20:57] <nyRednek> i'm about to lose my internet in a few days...do me a favor, if you will, guys
[20:57] Action: arfon rmmod necos
[20:58] <Necos> wtf nyRednek? how come? >.>
[20:58] <nyRednek> Necos: inability to pay cable bill
[20:58] <Necos> ugh :(
[20:58] <arfon> ow
[20:58] <nyRednek> anyways, could you guys keep my chan at least breathing until i can get back?
[20:59] <Necos> gonna get it back anytime soon?
[20:59] <arfon> nyRednek: Did you look into DSL?
[20:59] <nyRednek> Necos: no telling
[20:59] <arfon> starts at $20
[20:59] <nyRednek> arfon: verizon charges $400 as a setup fee
[20:59] <arfon> WHAT!?!?!
[20:59] <Necos> oh geez...
[20:59] <Necos> talk about price gouging
[20:59] <arfon> That's BS
[20:59] <nyRednek> my cable bill is less than 200 and i'm losing that
[21:00] <arfon> nyRednek: Virgin mobile.. $40/month  (but you have to buy the $80 adapter)
[21:00] <nyRednek> arfon: yeah, and you're limited on bandwidth transfer
[21:00] <arfon> Not anymore
[21:00] <arfon> They lifted that
[21:00] <nyRednek> arfon: also, does that work for slackware?
[21:00] <arfon> $40 unlimited
[21:01] <arfon> That's what I use to pester you guys during the work day
[21:01] <mancha> wait isn't limited bandwidth transfer better than no intartubes at all
[21:01] <mancha> or am i missing something there
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[21:01] <nyRednek> mancha: it is, but i don't have that kind of money...for now
[21:01] <arfon> You use kppp or wvdial or just pppd to connect
[21:01] <Necos> understood tho nyRednek...
[21:01] <nyRednek> it'll be a few weeks at the least...maybe as many as 12
[21:02] <Necos> ouch :(
[21:02] <arfon> No dumb neighbors near by?
[21:02] <nyRednek> arfon: it isn't a wifi connection
[21:02] <nyRednek> arfon: and the closest neighbors with wifi are too far out
[21:02] <arfon> :(
[21:03] <jeev> nyRednek, get a nice strong wifi, introduce yourself to aircrack
[21:03] <nyRednek> in other words, i'm screwed for a little while...just making the announcement and asking a favor
[21:04] <arfon> download cantenna plans before they disconnect
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[21:04] <nyRednek> arfon: does that connect over an ethernet?
[21:04] <nooper> plans? you mean a pringles tube?
[21:04] <arfon> Virgin is wireless 3g
[21:04] <jeev> lol plans
[21:04] Nick change: GamiPhone -> Urugami
[21:04] <nyRednek> speaking of cantenna
[21:04] <jeev> cantenna heh
[21:05] <arfon> Hey, you can't just slap a wire stub in a can and have it work
[21:05] <jeev> how far do cantenna's work
[21:05] <arfon> It's GOT to be a Mrs Fearnow's Brunswick Stew can and...
[21:05] <nyRednek> arfon: i'm not desperately addicted to internet, but thanks
[21:06] <nooper> i've read it can receive over a mile, but requires VERY precise positioning
[21:06] <arfon> I don't know your situation but, Virgin works for me
[21:06] <nyRednek> arfon: ok...i'll just make do without
[21:07] Action: arfon tried a Satellite dish with a USB adapter at the focal point...
[21:07] <arfon> didn't notice any difference
[21:07] <nyRednek> i will still be able to check my mail once a week
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[21:07] <nyRednek> and ##slackerz will(i hope) stay online
[21:07] <Necos> word
[21:07] <arfon> Starbucks buddy
[21:08] <nyRednek> arfon: public library
[21:08] <arfon> Too many creepy people there
[21:08] <arfon> looking at pr0n
[21:08] <Necos> lol
[21:08] <nyRednek> arfon: i'm creepy enough
[21:08] <arfon> :)
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[21:08] Action: nyRednek looks like a biker
[21:08] <nyRednek> complete with the long hair and beard
[21:08] <arfon> 20" or 26" ?
[21:09] <arfon> BMX or touring?
[21:09] <Atters> lol
[21:09] <Necos> >.>
[21:09] <nyRednek> arfon: as in chopped and rewelded
[21:09] <Necos> i think he means motorcycle...
[21:09] <arfon> Ah
[21:09] <nyRednek> as in 1%er
[21:10] <arfon> (you guys know I'm kidding right?)
[21:10] <nyRednek> walked past the local mc, they asked me where my colors were
[21:11] <arfon> Okay, I don't know this...  what is a 1%er and what is mc?
[21:12] <rob0> mc(1)
[21:12] <arfon> Oh man, don't make me man that too.
[21:12] <arfon> man mc
[21:13] <arfon> Um, you guys sidetracked me...  I Alan_Hicks on?
[21:13] Action: rob0 is scooter trash
[21:13] <Necos> lol
[21:13] <Necos> motorcycle club?
[21:13] <arfon> <--Dodge truck trash
[21:14] <rob0> Alan_Hicks is rarely here outside of work hours.
[21:14] <mancha> moped maniacs of the world unite!
[21:14] <arfon> HA!  He's as dedicated as me at work, eh?
[21:14] <arfon> Anyone here familiar with his postfix and dovecot SBos?
[21:14] <jeev> arfon, Alan_Hicks is too busy tea partying it up!
[21:15] <arfon> I like tea...  drink it every day
[21:16] <arfon> I'd like to drink some postfix with a little dovecot but, I'm not sure if there's an build/install order...
[21:16] <jeev> good choice
[21:16] <arfon> Alan_Hicks was so adamant, I thought I'd give it a try
[21:17] <arfon> so, do I have to build/install one before the other?
[21:17] <mancha> use the one you programmed from scratch (*cough* bullshit *cough*)
[21:17] <nyRednek> 1%er refers to bikers...99% are weekend bikers...1% are down for anything, legal or illegal, at any time
[21:17] <jeev> i had to set mine up pretty customized
[21:17] <nyRednek> and mc==motorcycle club...aka gangs
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[21:18] <arfon> PFFT!!!  If you can tell that CheapAssMTA was programmed by a complete cluebag, I don't know what to say...
[21:18] <Necos> i just said that nyRednek lol
[21:18] <arfon> or should that be cluelessbag...?
[21:19] <arfon> nyRednek: Ah.
[21:20] <arfon> Ah mancha!  I see the problem, I gave you the wrong URL... try cheapass.wikispaces.com/home
[21:22] <mancha> the page has defective stucture, the redirect is broken
[21:23] <mancha> what is the final url, to avoid the broken redirection?
[21:23] <arfon> http://cheapass.wikispaces.com
[21:23] <arfon> Broken URLs, blame wikispaces
[21:24] <mancha> nope still broken. oh well. i believe you.
[21:24] <arfon> Can anyone else see my webpage?
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[21:25] <Atters> Yes
[21:25] <arfon> Like my logo?  :)
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[21:26] <Atters> 5µ ftw
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[21:26] <arfon> THAT'S a cheap ass
[21:27] <arfon> Okay, back to postfix
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[21:33] <arfon> Jeev, you there?
[21:35] <arfon> For user postfix, should I disable bash?
[21:37] <jeev> ?
[21:37] <arfon> You running postfix?
[21:37] <jeev> mine is set to bin false
[21:37] <arfon> TY
[21:37] <jeev> i coudl be wrong however
[21:37] <jeev> it would be best to bug the shit out of thumbs and rob0 in #postfix
[21:37] <arfon> Is yours working?
[21:38] <arfon> Nice
[21:38] <jeev> like a long penis on viagra.
[21:38] <jeev> workhouse
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[21:38] <jeev> actually i wouldn't know about viagra but definitely with a long penis
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[21:54] <arfon> Sooo, more of a Cialis man?
[21:54] <arfon> Jeev, Rob0, Thumbs, what does (arg: 3) mean?
[21:55] <arfon> sorry wrong winder
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[21:57] <flappy> slackware = forge
[21:57] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj
[21:58] <arfon> forge?
[21:58] <flappy> yeas
[21:58] <arfon> huh?
[21:59] <flappy> i mean.. everytime i want something to run on slackware it has to be forged.
[21:59] <arfon> built?
[22:00] <Atters> forge as in hesphaestus?
[22:00] <arfon> forge as in Wayland?
[22:00] <flappy> slackware way
[22:01] <arfon> What are you trying to run?
[22:01] <Atters> for the most part, ./configure, make, make install isn't so bad...
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[22:01] <flappy> trying to run RO client.
[22:01] <arfon> application.SlackBuild is even easier
[22:01] <Necos> it's a bad idea if you want to manage software that doesn't have a make uninstall
[22:01] <flappy> its requires API to download
[22:02] <flappy> ang forge it, modify etc..
[22:02] <arfon> What is RO?
[22:02] <flappy> Its an online game Ragnarok. :)
[22:02] <arfon> OHHHHHHHHHHH
[22:02] <flappy> I wasnt able to run by wine app.
[22:02] <Necos> ragnarok online
[22:02] <flappy> yes!
[22:03] <pupit> flappy: WoW style?
[22:03] <arfon> Does it require IE in wine (like most)?
[22:03] <flappy> kiddie stuff
[22:03] <arfon> winetrick is your friend
[22:03] <flappy> wine and winetrick
[22:04] <arfon> flappy to be fair, is there an RO client for any Linux distro?
[22:04] <Necos> winetricks is pretty fun
[22:05] <flappy> I think there is. I search google and shows me API download.
[22:06] <arfon> You could dissect that package and make it work
[22:07] <flappy> yes forge that package.. :)
[22:08] <arfon> Wouldn't you rather play Tux Racer?
[22:08] <flappy> haha cuteee
[22:08] <flappy> is it an online?
[22:08] <arfon> :)
[22:08] <arfon> I don't know, I can't stand the game
[22:08] <flappy> i think its fun
[22:09] Action: arfon plays OpenTTD
[22:11] <Atters> STO baby, STO
[22:11] <flappy> Can ask bout API does it require to be programmer kinda?
[22:11] <arfon> Star Trek Online???
[22:11] <Atters> yessir
[22:12] <arfon> GAH!!!  I JUST bought that and I'm done with it already
[22:12] <Atters> Yeah, 2 weeks is all it takes
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[22:12] <Atters> and it still hates ATI cards...
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[22:12] <arfon> I want to slap the managers of the Star Trek Franchise for allowing that thing to be released
[22:13] <Atters> 4890 runs at 82C even with arctic silver 5
[22:13] <arfon> DAoC hated ATI cards
[22:13] <arfon> STO works fine on my cheapo nvidia
[22:13] <Atters> I'm running 2048x1152, 16xAA, 8xAI
[22:14] <arfon> GAH!  No wonder your card hates you
[22:14] <arfon> 800x640 FTW!
[22:14] <Atters> lol
[22:15] <arfon> UO baby
[22:15] <Atters> blast from the past
[22:15] <Atters> first MMO I ever played was UO
[22:15] <arfon> mine too
[22:16] <Atters> on a 2400 baud modem rofl
[22:17] <Atters> my ISP laughed at me, literally, when I signed up for a 56k dialup account
[22:21] <Atters> IBM 486 systems are indestructible, btw
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[22:22] <arfon> My first IBM compat was a 486 board I put in a 286 PS/2 case
[22:26] <pupit> interesting readings from page stats: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/p6FPvi54.html
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[22:32] <arfon> I want one of those monitors
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[22:33] <rockslinux> Hi
[22:33] <rockslinux> when will new slackbook?
[22:33] <raela> verbs are important
[22:34] <raela> in general
[22:34] <niels_horn> answer: when ready
[22:35] <arfon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEqRo7J_Y0Q
[22:36] <raela> when you dance under the moonlight on the highest hill with a weeping willow exactly 2.5 times around.. then travel 10543.2 miles away to the finest brewery, order $6942.00 worth of their highest quality beer, and deliver it to one Alan_Hicks (but it must be exactly 5.6 degrees celcius or else he will punch you in the face)
[22:37] <arfon> I thought he was a Milewaulkee's Best man
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[22:38] <raela> warsteiner is a good choice
[22:38] <raela> yeuling maybe too? I forget the spelling
[22:38] <raela> yeunling maybe.. or yuengling.. bah
[22:38] <arfon> Silly german anmes
[22:38] <arfon> names
[22:39] <arfon> If anyone cares, postfix and dovecot built successfully for me
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[22:44] <Atters> Pabst Blue Ribbon only
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[22:45] <flappy> How do you make your desktop to be an "eyecandy"? What tool used? :)
[22:46] <andarius> sugar
[22:46] <flappy> he he
[22:46] <raela> fluxbox and transparent terms and glucose injections
[22:46] <raela> but I can't see all too well anymore :/
[22:47] <flappy> i used xfce?
[22:47] Action: andarius also uses xfce
[22:48] <flappy> i like transparent...
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[22:48] <nooper> eyecandy is gay
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[22:48] <rockslinux> :)
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[22:48] <flappy> waaaa wats urs nooper?
[22:49] <nooper> flappy: plain black background
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[02:49] <flappy> dont like eyecandy? hmmm
[02:50] <rockslinux> openbox & black background
[02:50] <Atters> you've never had to attract an MS fan with eyecandy?
[02:50] <nooper> not a salesman
[02:51] <Atters> I'm going to guess you don't have users to support :)
[02:51] <gniks> or much of anything
[02:52] <flappy> If a user ask a noobie question? DO you answer or not?
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[02:53] <gniks> depends on the question
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[02:53] <rob0> Yep, I answer, or not.
[02:53] <Atters> Okay, I relent, I'm not a salesman either.  That said, when you show an MS user that you can do more with a 2.4ghz P4 running Slack than they can with a quadcore I7 running Win7, the feeling of self-satisfaction is not insignificant.
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[02:54] <flappy> I dont see slack user to be user answer feeder...
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[02:55] <flappy> instead make user to read and learn..
[02:56] <gniks> the key is to ask smart questions
[02:56] <Atters> that only goes so far with users who couldn't read their way out of a wet paper bag.
[02:56] <arfon> Alex, I'll take "Compiz or Beryl" for $200 please
[02:56] <gniks> arfon: Beryl is no longer maintained and has been merged with compiz which kde4 uses now to do its fun :)
[02:57] <Atters> "FoxIt doesn't look exactly like Adobe Reader!  FoxIt is horrible!"
[02:57] <flappy> wet paper bag :)
[02:57] <arfon> In that case, I'll take Compiz for $400
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[02:57] <gniks> :p
[02:57] <arfon> :P""""""
[02:57] <arfon> mine's wetter
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[02:58] <gniks> ewww :p
[02:58] <arfon> Hey, I have a drooling problem....  wipe
[02:58] <flappy> Which eyecandy you like, genome, kde, fluxbox?
[02:58] <flappy> :)
[02:58] <gniks> none, i only use terminals
[02:58] <Atters> "I'd rather the company spend $400 on Acrobat Pro 9 than use FoxIt and PDFCreator!"
[02:59] <arfon> XFCE is as much eyecandy I can stand
[02:59] <Atters> ... not a joke btw
[03:00] <gniks> id rather adobe upgrade their apps to be 64bit :p
[03:00] <flappy> xfce i just simple right?
[03:00] <arfon> No TWM is simple
[03:00] <arfon> Xfce is fairly complete
[03:02] <flappy> Can you make eye out of xfce? like transparency on file anager
[03:02] <flappy> manager
[03:02] <rockslinux> www.enlightenment.org
[03:02] <arfon> If you're looking for spinning boxes and stuff like that, don't use XFCE
[03:02] <arfon> Never tried Flappy
[03:03] <arfon> KDE4 pissed me off with the transparencies so I left KDE
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[03:05] <Necos> enlightenment was better before E17 IMO
[03:06] <infid> when i x11 forward xclock it runs instantly but when i try to do it on firefox it's been loading for 2 min and nothing is happening. is that because firefox is just too big to x11 ssh forward?
[03:08] <flappy> think fluxbox makes eyecandy..
[03:10] <rockslinux> was, but if try, he will be best and now :)
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[03:10] <rockslinux> was, but if try, he will be best and now :)
[03:12] <flappy> :)
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[03:16] <flappy> :
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[03:22] <jeev> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661374 hahahahah
[03:23] <pupit> hahaha god one
[03:23] <pupit> good*
[03:24] <jeev> jeebus, channel 9's new chick is hot as hell stil. Evelyn Taft, kcal9.com, search her name.. that chick is bootiful
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[03:27] <Atters> all the plastic surgery that money is fit to buy
[03:27] <jeev> i dont think she's altered anything but then again, she could be a man for all i know.
[03:28] <Atters> lol, cali + network TV + news anchor...
[03:28] <gaurav> i am installing vitrualbox script is running but after some time  it said iasl (variable IASL) not found!
[03:28] <jeev> i dunno man
[03:28] <jeev> i think she's 100% real
[03:29] <Atters> IASL http://vbox.innotek.de/pipermail/vbox-dev/2009-March/001223.html
[03:29] <LSD`> Has the volume of plastic surgery sales in Cali reached the point where $10 bucks gets you a full refit yet? :P
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[03:29] <LSD`> I mean, if it's going to happen anywhere in the world, that'll be where it does
[03:29] <gaurav> i installed iasl but same error again
[03:30] <Atters> Did you choose any "weird" options during Slackware install?
[03:30] <Atters> packages omitted, etc?
[03:30] <gaurav> no
[03:30] <jeev> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2G5T6F54aI
[03:30] <Atters> slack 13.1?
[03:30] <gaurav> yes
[03:30] <Atters> k, let me VM it real quick
[03:31] <Atters> vbox, I demand you start slack 31.1, now!
[03:31] <Atters> *13.1
[03:31] <mag0o> slack 31.1?
[03:31] <mag0o> whoa!
[03:31] <mag0o> future guy, how do i die?
[03:31] <Atters> I hit 88 mph
[03:32] <mag0o> :)
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[03:33] <gaurav> how i ckeck whether iasl is installed or not
[03:33] <andarius> bu running "ls /var/log/packages | grep iasl"
[03:34] <andarius> s/bu/by/
[03:35] <gaurav> i installed using  slackbuild script  but there no any message in ls /var/log/packages | grep iasl
[03:36] <andarius> or as an alternate method "slackpkg search iasl"
[03:36] <andarius> slackbuilds scripts dont install anything, they only build a package. did you run "installpkg $pkgname" once you built it ?
[03:37] <Atters> Okay, 13.1 default install, KDE, sudo su -, sh Virtualbox-3.2.0-64453-Linux_x86.run, result successful
[03:37] <danc3> more specifically, if built with a Slackbuild, it would be installed with "installpkg /tmp/$pkgname"
[03:37] <Atters> something is weird with you...
[03:38] <gaurav> slackpkg search iasl also not found any thing
[03:38] <andarius> the only hit on slackbuilds I got for iasl was this > http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/development/acpica/
[03:38] <Atters> running ./Virtualbox-3.2.8-64453-L:inux_x86.run as root?
[03:38] <andarius> in which case you would want to run "ls /vaar/log/packages | grep acpica"
[03:39] <danc3> Atters: it's an installation script
[03:39] <andarius> umm, one a, sorry
[03:39] <Atters> get the linux x386 .run package from virtualbox.org
[03:39] <Atters> sh or ./ run it as root
[03:39] <danc3> Atters: that's what he did
[03:39] <Atters> ie: su or sudo
[03:40] <gaurav> yes i take pkg from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/development/acpica/
[03:40] Action: danc3 gives up
[03:40] <andarius> gaurav: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ <-- read
[03:41] <gaurav> i read
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[03:41] <Atters> I've installed Vbox probably a dozen times under slack 13 and 13.1.... never had any problems whatsoever
[03:41] <Atters> I've never had to install any 3rd party packages, nothing
[03:42] <Atters> on systems from a 2.4ghz Pentium 4 to a 2.6ghz quad-core Phenom
[03:42] <gaurav> acpia script runs perfect and ok
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[03:42] <Atters> something *has* to be funky with the way you installed slackware, are you absolutely certain you are installing vbox as su or root?
[03:43] <gaurav> as root
[03:43] <mancha> adduser su
[03:43] <Atters> you shouldn't ever have to "adduser su"
[03:44] <Atters> su is a built-in command
[03:44] <gaurav> i login in user account and using su - go in root
[03:44] <mancha> i better deluser su then
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[03:46] <Atters> once the slackware install is complete, you have only the root user to work with.  The absolute first thing you should have done is login as root, and "adduser <username-you-want>" or more simply, "adduser user"
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[03:47] <Atters> go through the adduser process, and then login as user, download vbox, issue the "su" command, enter the root password, cd to the directory where the vbox installer is, and then "./VirtualBox-3.2.8-64453-Linux_x86.run"
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[03:47] <Atters> all should go 100% smoothly from there
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[04:01] <nyRednek> that's funny, a guy was laughing when i told him to kiss my ass...set him +b then -o then he lost connection
[04:01] <nyRednek> this happened over a period of hours
[04:04] <nyRednek> ok, abiword isn't utf-8, at least not the way it built on my system
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[04:56] <kickback> i wonder why slackbuilds.org doesnt work with dillo
[04:56] <kickback> dillo tries to download all of it in an archive :/
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[06:00] <orgasm> hi
[06:01] <deco> hi
[06:01] <kickback> hi... orgasm
[06:01] <orgasm> What to do after installing fluxbox ./configure, make, make install... what next? is it ready? what to do nxt.. any clue?
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[06:02] <orgasm> i use xfce
[06:02] <kickback> isnt fluxbox already in a default install?
[06:02] <deco> yeah
[06:02] <dive> orgasm, why didn't just install the slackware package?
[06:02] <dive> but generally run xwmconfig
[06:02] <shonudo> hey deco
[06:02] <deco> hey shonudo
[06:02] <dive> choose fluxbox from the list and then startx
[06:02] <orgasm> im trying to test other desktop environment
[06:02] <orgasm> startup?
[06:03] <dive> no, xwmconfig, startx
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[06:03] <deco> shonudo: oh why aren't you at the other place ?
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[06:03] <orgasm> ill be back
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[06:04] <deco> heh
[06:04] <shonudo> deco: work; seriously, i'd just be a name on the roster
[06:05] <deco> shonudo: oh haha yeah ...not much goes on anyway :p
[06:05] <deco> almost dead
[06:05] <shonudo> good to see you, though
[06:05] <deco> yeah same here
[06:05] <shonudo> i'll be around (probably the weekends)
[06:05] <deco> k cool
[06:07] <deco> getting late here
[06:07] <deco> see ya shonudo
[06:07] <shonudo> cu
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[06:07] <orgasm> done
[06:08] <orgasm> i should have not to download ang install fluxbox. I think it was already default installed
[06:08] <kickback> orgasm: thats correct
[06:12] <orgasm> is thinking some user desktop are cool.
[06:12] <orgasm> anyway.. ty
[06:12] <orgasm> :)
[06:12] <kickback> orgasm: you mean fluxbox desktops?
[06:13] <orgasm> i tot fluxbox has cool window and desktops environments
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[06:13] <kickback> orgasm: nah, its just a basic window manager, although a good one
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[06:14] <kickback> http://box-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=7400&PHPSESSID=76f564478076aa1f8fbb78f9c3cf842a  has some fluxbox themes if you want
[06:14] <gabriel> a cool desktop...no kde or gnome or xfce....e17!
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[06:34] <byteframe> Michael Steele rocks.
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[06:43] <orgasm> hi
[06:43] <mrcarrot> hi
[06:44] <nooper> hi
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[06:44] <orgasm1> :))
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[07:01] <mancha> high
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[07:04] <byteframe> hay
[07:05] <alienBOB> Zordrak: ping?
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[07:07] <gaurav> how to make my ntfs partition parmanent mounted when i login every time
[07:07] <gaurav> automount with login
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[07:16] <alisonken1lap> verses automounted at boot time?
[07:16] <alisonken1lap> using fstab?
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[07:18] <kickback> gaurav: this one is for ubuntu, but should work in slackware as well http://www.ubuntux.org/edit-fstab-to-mount-partition-at-startup
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[07:20] <kickback> oh, and you should probably be using sda1 instead of hda1
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[07:21] <alisonken1lap> unless he's using 13.0 or earlier
[07:21] <alisonken1lap> sdX is only default after 13.1
[07:21] <alisonken1lap> or since 13.1 rather
[07:22] <kickback> didnt know that about slackware
[07:27] <alisonken1lap> libata change between 13.0 and 13.1 is what caused the difference
[07:27] <alisonken1lap> check the changelog for 13.1 and you'll find it
[07:29] <kickback> ok
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[07:51] <FusionX> Where do i download the .iso of the latest slacware (x86)?
[07:52] <tecra> slackware.org
[07:52] <FusionX> I can't find the .ISO file
[07:52] <FusionX> :/
[07:52] <FusionX> its just this link ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware/
[07:52] <FusionX> oops ** ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/
[07:52] <tecra> http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php
[07:53] <tecra> http://www.slackware.com/getslack/list.php?country=USA
[07:55] <FusionX> thanks
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[07:59] <FusionX> err..sorry but i still can't find it (i'm kind of a noob). Can u plz link me the .iso file? (x86)
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[08:00] <mancha> that's the first filter. if you can't find it you won't be able to use it  :)
[08:04] <dive> FusionX, 32 or 64 bit?
[08:04] <dive> oh right
[08:04] <dive> just read the bit in brackets
[08:04] <bitlord> mancha, he is right there are no .iso files
[08:05] <dive> http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0-iso/
[08:05] <bitlord> not on every mirror :(
[08:06] <dive> FusionX, http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1-iso/slackware-13.1-install-dvd.iso
[08:06] <dive> ignore first link
[08:07] <mancha> i didn't say they're on every mirror
[08:07] <mancha> i just said if you can't find it chances are you won't know how to use ti  :)
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[08:14] <bitlord> mancha, OK, sorry :(
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[08:19] <FusionX> thanks
[08:21] <mancha> anyone here play supertuxkart?
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[09:37] <nyRednek> well, just got one of those middle of the night phone calls
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[09:40] <m3tti> hi there
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[09:47] <mancha> sorry, i thought you were awake
[09:48] <mrcarrot> here it is 12:41... in the middle of the day :)
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[09:53] <sahko> http://goo.gl/6e4V , at last
[09:55] <kickback> wut
[09:57] <nyRednek> mancha: yeah, my dad is on a one-way trip to a larger hospital
[09:58] <kickback> ok, so its only adding bing to the list, not the default
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[09:59] <mrcarrot> both are evil... https://startpage.com would be good
[09:59] <mrcarrot> both the other are logging a lot
[10:00] <kickback> yeah, ixquick is what i generally use
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[10:02] <sahko> the mozilla-google deal ends in 2011 i think
[10:03] <mrcarrot> still i do not care what firefox will use as default... i can always change. let them get the funding they need to improve firefox
[10:04] <mrcarrot> whoever pays them more, i am happy that the project can continue
[10:04] <mrcarrot> after all i am not paying anything for their product..
[10:12] Nick change: yht -> yht-GoHome
[10:13] <m3tti> mrcarrot: startpage is cool
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[10:16] <gaurav> when i start mplayer it says "DVB card number must be between 1 and 4"
[10:17] <gaurav> what is this
[10:17] <sahko> gaurav: tried asking in #mplayer?
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[10:22] <sahko> mrcarrot: how do you set startpage as your default search engine?
[10:23] <sahko> their url doesnt have anything to $search_term
[10:24] <mrcarrot> sahko: http://www.startpage.com/eng/download-startpage-plugin.html
[10:25] <mrcarrot> sahko: or then inside of firefox click on manage search engines
[10:25] <sahko> oh wow, konqueror, i was about to say i dont use firefox:)
[10:26] <m3tti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac <- damn that man is awesome
[10:26] <sahko> just for the fact they have instructions for konqueror i shall try it
[10:26] <mrcarrot> sahko: is there any good ad-block plugin for konqueror?
[10:26] <sahko> mrcarrot: 4.5.1 has adblock filter update by default
[10:27] <sahko> adblock has been in konq-plugins for quite a while
[10:28] <mrcarrot> sahko: and is it possible to surf through a socks proxy? that setting i have not been finding?
[10:28] <mrcarrot> sometimes i need to surf through a ssh tunnel
[10:29] <mrcarrot> i am actually pretty fed up on firefox and would be willing to try something else... as long as it is having ad-block, tabs and proxy settings
[10:29] <sahko> hm not sure
[10:30] <kickback> mrcarrot: konq does have socks proxy settings
[10:30] <kickback> iirc
[10:30] <sahko> well there is a proxy setting entry
[10:30] <mrcarrot> last time i checked i could only get http proxy working
[10:30] <mrcarrot> but not through an ssh tunnel
[10:30] <ananke>     
[10:33] <ananke> oops
[10:33] <mancha> both chrome (and by extension chromium) support proxy configurations.
[10:33] <mancha> i would be surprised if these days, most browsers didnt'
[10:33] <sahko> mrcarrot: the proxy dialog is the same as the KDE global one. if KDE does so will konq. maybe it needs libssh like dolphin? no idea
[10:35] <sahko> oh seems libssh is only used for sftp
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[10:36] <mrcarrot> well, i will have to continue with firefox then for some time...
[10:36] <kickback> mrcarrot: try dillo ;)
[10:38] <mrcarrot> :)
[10:38] <mrcarrot> i have been using dillo sometimes
[10:38] <mrcarrot> but it is lacking still the same stuff
[10:38] <kickback> tabs, proxy support
[10:38] <mancha> stop whining mrcarrot
[10:39] <mancha> :)
[10:39] <kickback> well, it has tabs and proxy support, and ads arent annoying on dillo
[10:40] <sahko> i wanted to try a webkit based epiphany for quite some time but no distribution live medium comes with it
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[10:41] <mrcarrot> kickback: no ad block
[10:42] <kickback> true
[10:42] <kickback> but you dont even notice ads on dillo
[10:42] <mrcarrot> and java script?
[10:43] <kickback> javascript is for wimps ;)
[10:43] <mrcarrot> sadly so many pages starts to use ajax etc... :(
[10:43] <mrcarrot> the trend goes there and the dillo minority can not change it
[10:44] <mrcarrot> i am of the belief myself that scripts should be run on the server and not in the browser
[10:44] <mrcarrot> but most developers not
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[10:47] <kickback> well, i'm doing my part fighting terrorism by not visiting websites that use javascript/flash for no fucking reason
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[11:50] <flappy> What directory which programs like oracle virtualbox installed? Any clue?
[11:51] <flappy> aha
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[11:59] <flappy> Everytime I run virtualbox I got stuck at configuring LAN. :(
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[12:11] <m3tti> flappy: whats wrong
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[12:11] <flappy> Can connect.
[12:11] <flappy> :)
[12:11] <flappy> Cant connect*
[12:12] <flappy> Trying to figure it out :))
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[12:14] <m3tti> flappy: what system is in the vm
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[12:15] <flappy> I use slackware in my Oracle virtualbox
[12:15] <m3tti> and it halts on the network configuration
[12:16] <flappy> yes
[12:16] <m3tti> dhcp?
[12:16] <flappy> static ip
[12:16] <flappy> NAT setting
[12:16] <m3tti> and the eth0 is identified?
[12:16] <m3tti> correctly
[12:17] <flappy> do I need to turn off modem after setting ip?
[12:17] <flappy> restart
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[12:36] <flappy> Can I adjust the size resolution of Virtualbox?
[12:36] <flappy> noobie question
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[12:43] <Dominian> Man, I tell yah.
[12:44] <Dominian> I love people who steal content and then pass it off as their own becuase they are too god damned lazy to actually write it themselves.
[12:44] <rhisa> o.o
[12:44] <rhisa> I wake up.
[12:44] <rhisa> What happened Dominian?
[12:44] <mrcarrot> good morning rhisa
[12:44] <Dominian> rhisa: in time, it will all come to fruition
[12:44] <rhisa> Good morning mrcarrot.
[12:44] <rhisa> Dominian, o.o I am so sorry, please fill me in.
[12:44] <Dominian> rhisa: Not my content.
[12:45] <Dominian> however, I did contribute to it.
[12:45] <rhisa> Dominian, wait, what are you talking about? What prompted you to say what you just said now about people being too lazy?
[12:45] <Dominian> the ass who did it I'm sure h as 'ears' in here.  and he knows who he is.
[12:45] <Dominian> rhisa: Read my last statement :)
[12:45] <rhisa> Dominian, can you pm me please?
[12:45] <Dominian> rhisa: not at this moment.
[12:45] <Dominian> meeting time
[12:45] <rhisa> Is it me? o.o
[12:45] <rhisa> I have a blag.
[12:45] <Dominian> rhisa: no. not you.
[12:45] <rhisa> lulzbrigade and rhisa, where I post but if I am, please please please tell me.
[12:45] <rhisa> Oh okay.
[12:45] <Dominian> real meeting tim enow
[12:45] Action: rhisa wipes sweat.
[12:46] <mancha> is it animal, mineral, or vegetable?
[12:46] <mrcarrot> i feel really confuesed as entered in the middle of this
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[12:49] <rhisa> mrcarrot, me too.
[12:49] <rhisa> I can understand said frustration and I hate doing anything like that.
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[12:49] <rhisa> tHAt's why if you see my posts, you'll see I always give link or credit whoever said it.
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[12:51] <mancha> rhisa we all know it was you who stole Dominian's masterppiece
[12:51] <rhisa> mancha, no!
[12:51] Action: rhisa cowers and covers head in fear of the stick.
[12:51] <rhisa> ;-;!! <sniffs and trais to stifflz tears>
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[12:52] manhunter kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Impersonating Pat V. did not help either. Grow up, get a life
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[12:53] <rhisa> Is mancha still there?...
[12:58] <mancha> i'm still here but i've already contacted interpol
[12:58] <rhisa> mancha, http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9053/1286366482336.jpg
[12:58] <rhisa> ;-;
[12:59] <mancha> a pider with shades?
[13:00] <mancha> spider*
[13:00] <rhisa> I.. I dunno.
[13:00] <rhisa> But it is sad.
[13:00] <rhisa> ;-; Like me.
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[13:06] <flappy> how to check my 3D is installed and running?
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[13:11] <Soul_keeper> flappy, glxinfo |grep rendering   is a start
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[13:13] <flappy> :)
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[13:15] <flappy> now may 3D is enabled and running. t
[13:16] <flappy> trying figure out 32 bit virtualbox..
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[13:32] <arfon> Howdy
[13:33] <arfon> Alan_Hicks: You on?
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[13:51] <Zordrak> surrounder: ping
[13:52] <surrounder> Zordrak: pong
[13:53] <Zordrak> What the shit is with all the bicycles?!
[13:53] <Zordrak> :)
[13:53] <flappy> A16bit virtualbox :(
[13:54] <surrounder> Zordrak: hahaha
[13:54] <surrounder> Zordrak: yeah I don't understand it either, think I
[13:54] <surrounder> 'm on of the few dutchies without one
[13:55] <Zordrak> I nearly got run over before I worked out you dont have two-way streets theyre four-way streets
[13:55] <Zordrak> stay the hell away from the red
[13:55] <surrounder> lol
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[13:56] <surrounder> Zordrak: enjoying your stay ?
[13:56] <Zordrak> been here about 10 minutes
[13:56] <Zordrak> not bad so far.... :)
[13:56] <surrounder> ah, lol
[13:57] <surrounder> Zordrak: bought wooden shoes yet to blend in ?
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[14:21] <rhisa> Zordrak, I just want to say I'm a fan.
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[14:22] <surrounder> rafu: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3IjRgoGWUBo/TGrL3jguVBI/AAAAAAAAAoc/ncvL4LfGfdM/s1600/facebook-demotivational-poster.jpg - teehee
[14:22] <surrounder> oops, tabfail
[14:22] <surrounder> rhisa that is
[14:23] <rafu> haha nice one
[14:25] <rhisa> xD!!
[14:25] <adrien> I love that pic too :-)
[14:26] <sahko> lol
[14:26] <rhisa> But in all seriousness, I like Zordrak's blog a lot. It's really useful.
[14:26] <rhisa> I strike to make my blog as useful. As you can see, it's not despite all the linkz in www.rhisa.com/node.
[14:26] <surrounder> rhisa: hehe it definitly is :)
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[14:28] <rhisa> I want employers to say "dang this Rhisa is good, must hire before we lose this chance".
[14:28] <rhisa> But so far I've only made people say "Rhisa is pretty good... but we have no money to hire you".
[14:33] <Kaapa> guys, do we have any font that handles unicode correctly?
[14:33] <adrien> fixed :P
[14:34] <mancha> Kaapa that is a hard question to answer, there is no glyph-complete font
[14:35] <Kaapa> I'd like one that could render the most common languages
[14:35] <mancha> depending on what glyphs are important to you, you can pick that.
[14:35] <Zordrak> surrounder: uh.. no, not yet :) not that ive seen anyone in any
[14:35] <Kaapa> (to use in a database client app)
[14:35] <Zordrak> rhisa: ok. thanks.
[14:36] <surrounder> Zordrak: prolly won't happen either, alas,  just trying to keep the image up internationally :P
[14:37] <mancha> Kaapa again, you have to specify which scripts are importan tto you
[14:37] <Kaapa> mancha: isn't there anything similar to whatever browsers user to render pages?
[14:38] <mancha> no, browsers use several fonts
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[14:38] <adrien> fixed even does cyrillic :P
[14:38] <mancha> they mix and match glyph sets
[14:38] <adrien> dejavu has a good range
[14:38] <mancha> for example, in firefox you have to install asian support if you want to see the chinese, japanese, etc glyphs
[14:40] <Kaapa> adrien: ok, I'll try. Didn't realize the "fixed" answer was for me :)
[14:41] <adrien> chances are you won't really like fixed :P
[14:41] <adrien> but dejavu is nice
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[14:47] <crocket> I've done a lot of stuff, but I eventually resort to making slackbuilds to have fun.
[14:47] <crocket> I think I'm crazy.
[14:47] <surrounder> that's correct
[14:47] <crocket> me being crazy?
[14:48] <Alan_Hicks> arfon: I'm here.
[14:48] <rob0> Alan_Hicks is here! Alan_Hicks is here!!
[14:50] <crocket> I'm preparing slackbuilds for rhythmbox and associated dependencies.
[14:50] <crocket> It just needs a little more orchestration
[14:51] <crocket> I'm already using rhythmbox right now.
[14:51] <thrice`> sorry to hear
[14:51] <surrounder> crocket: too bad :(
[14:51] <crocket> what?
[14:52] <crocket> IMO, I think rhythmbox is better than any other media player.
[14:52] <crocket> I should share it with others.
[14:52] <rob0> But folks, Alan_Hicks is here! When Alan_Hicks is here, what else matters?
[14:52] <crocket> Installing rhythmbox via GSB results in unwanted packages installed.
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[14:53] <crocket> I'm preparing a clean installation of rhythmbox.
[14:53] <arfon> Hi Alan_Hicks, if I want to add clamav to postfix, do I have to rerun the slackbuild?
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[14:53] <rob0> arfon using amavisd-new with SA?
[14:54] <arfon> wha?
[14:54] <mancha> the latest clamav defn file successfully removes kde4
[14:54] <arfon> What's SA?
[14:54] <Axius> hello
[14:54] <Alan_Hicks> arfon: I don't think you would have to.  it depends on how you build clamav for starters.  Postfix may have a plugin to it, but I've always seen people setup clamav as an smtp pass-through in master.conf so I doubt you'd need to recompile anything.
[14:55] <mancha> spam assassin i presume
[14:55] <Alan_Hicks> I don't know though, never used clamav
[14:55] <arfon> Duh
[14:55] <arfon> Spam assassin
[14:55] <rob0> Well, first step is sensible pre-DATA checks like getting rid of non-FQDN HELO and using Zen.spamhaus.org. Content filtering is a second level of defense.
[14:55] <arfon> Not to that point yet....
[14:56] <rob0> After all that, clamav is not very useful.
[14:56] <arfon> It would be nice not to have to mess with clamav
[14:56] <crocket> Is shoreshell useful?
[14:57] <crocket> I don't remember the name exactly
[14:57] <mancha> shorewall the firewall shizznitz?
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[14:57] <crocket> shorewall
[14:57] <crocket> yeah
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[14:58] <crocket> I heard shorewall is better than raw iptable.
[14:58] <mancha> personally i don't believ in those, i like to make mine and i like to keep em simple
[14:58] <surrounder> crocket: and which arguments were given ?
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[14:59] <crocket> surrounder : iptable itself is difficult to manage, and shorewall provides a good frontend.
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[14:59] <surrounder> crocket: so it's 'better' because you can click and don't have to learn about what you are doing
[14:59] <surrounder> interesting!
[14:59] <crocket> surrounder : It's not "click and forget".
[15:00] <mancha> if you like that sort of approach i bet it's fine.
[15:00] <crocket> www.shorewall.net
[15:00] <mancha> there are a couple other gui frontends out there too that you can try
[15:00] <crocket> It provides text configurations
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[15:01] <crocket> I heard shorewall reduces repetitive tasks inherent in iptables.
[15:02] <rob0> Shorewall might be easier for some to learn to manage than just using iptables directly. At least, that is its goal.
[15:02] <crocket> I haven't used it, though.
[15:02] <flappy> checkbox-  Launch GNOME service on starup: What does this do? Im trying to run GNOME
[15:02] <rob0> But I'm with mancha, just keep it simple and these frontends are not useful.
[15:02] <crocket> rob0 : you prefer to use IPtables directly?
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[15:04] <rob0> On the whole what I prefer is to keep rules in iptables-save(8) format, restore with iptables-restore(8). But sure, I can add individual rules as needed.
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[15:04] <Alan_Hicks> There really are no real repetitive tasks in iptables.  You set it up once and use it for years with only minor changes.
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[15:05] <crocket> good
[15:05] <crocket> I'm currently planning to learn NFS, Samba, OpenAFS, and iptables.
[15:05] <GuardabosqueS> see you next week
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[15:06] <mancha> i am not sure investing in openafs is worth it
[15:06] <crocket> OpenAFS is better than NFS in case port 111 is blocked.
[15:06] <mancha> it is quite crippled compared to the proprietary afs and i doubt it'll catch up anytime soon
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[15:07] <crocket> In some networks, opening port 111 requires cutting red tapes.
[15:07] <crocket> I had to wait a week to open it.
[15:08] <crocket> how about Samba?
[15:09] <crocket> I'm already using NFS, but haven't used samba yet.
[15:10] <mancha> samba is worth it, note that while samba implements both smb and cifs, cifs is the way to go.
[15:10] <rob0> heh crocket, it took me years to really learn iptables, and I am still learning. Samba, oh, it's easy to start on, but I didn't really learn much until I managed it for a business.
[15:10] <mancha> and is very simple to use if you're already familiar with cifs
[15:10] <crocket> I have to learn CIFS.
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[15:11] <crocket> NFS is easy to configure, but requires adding hosts manually, which is not good when I have to add lots of hosts.
[15:11] <mancha> maybe i'm being too harsh wrt openafs...some years ago it was not worth it, they might have made significant progress since.
[15:12] <crocket> I heard OpenAFS is used in MIT or some other university to share data with thousands of university computers.
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[15:12] <crocket> It's definitely not a job for NFS.
[15:12] <mancha> mit uses afs
[15:12] <crocket> mancha : Is NFS secure enough when managing a small network like mine?
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[15:15] <Alan_Hicks> crocket: Define "small" and "secure".
[15:15] <mancha> i don't know :)
[15:15] <crocket> Alan_Hicks, I have two computers behind a WAN router.
[15:15] <crocket> One of those computers serve as an NFS server.
[15:16] <crocket> I'm planning to buy a server computer that will serve as the WAN router.
[15:16] <crocket> The future server computer will be an NFS server, a WAN router, etc.
[15:16] <crocket> The form factor would be Mini-ITX or whatnot.
[15:17] <rob0> Alan_Hicks is small and secure.
[15:17] <alphageek> he's secure with his smallness? :)
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[15:17] <surrounder> lol
[15:17] <crocket> That wouldn't be fun for him.
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[15:17] <mancha> where's our "that's what she said" person?
[15:18] <alphageek> haha
[15:18] <rob0> Life is not fun for Alan_Hicks. Life is duty!
[15:18] <crocket> mancha : do you run any file server?
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[15:19] <mancha> cifs
[15:19] <crocket> ok
[15:19] <crocket> CIFS
[15:19] <crocket> noted
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[15:23] <mancha> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831
[15:23] <crocket> I'm also planning to learn apache, MySQL, and PHP.
[15:23] <crocket> maybe HTML, too.
[15:23] <crocket> I think I want to learn too much.
[15:24] <pupit> crocket: you know slackware?
[15:24] <rob0> crocket: no, not too much, but maybe too quickly?
[15:24] <crocket> pupit : yes I know slackware.
[15:24] <rob0> and yes, at some point you might need to specialize.
[15:24] <pupit> crocket: ;P
[15:24] <mancha> how do they know it is 50 characters long?
[15:25] <crocket> "http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831"....
[15:25] <crocket> mancha : He could have arranged words that have meanings in 50 characters.
[15:26] <crocket> rob0 : I want to manage a personal website that serves personal benefits.
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[15:26] <crocket> mancha : I think the boy told the police.
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[15:27] <FriedBob> crocket: That's why you should stop messing with little boys. ;)
[15:27] <crocket> It's surprising he remembers a password 50 characters long
[15:27] <crocket> FriedBob, I wish I did it.
[15:28] <pupit> ie. he i s not senile...
[15:28] <FriedBob> crocket: I haVve no idea what you are talking about. All I saw was something about a boy telling the police.
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[15:28] <crocket> FriedBob : It's a joke.
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[16:23] <pupit> is there a way to automate mailx to not wait for final dot to be entered? i need that for a script
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[16:33] <MarderIII> pupit: you can use a socalled "here" document to do that in a script.
[16:34] <MarderIII> but you still have to enter the "." in such a script
[16:34] <pupit> MarderIII: i dont understand
[16:35] <pupit> as long as it not wiats me for entering it, its fine
[16:35] <MarderIII> pupit: search google for "here document unix"
[16:35] <pupit> just did MarderIII, reading :)
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[17:08] <pupit> thanks MarderIII.  still trying to write a working syntax :)
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[17:16] <pupit> did it!
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[17:23] <gtludwig> hello all
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[17:27] <notKlaatu> maco: a guy in teh netherlands has a wife who is into sign language, she heard your gally interview today, and is interested in helping.
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[17:30] <maco> notKlaatu: tell her to email me!
[17:30] <maco> notKlaatu: by the way, i released it on monday
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[17:31] <notKlaatu> no way
[17:31] <maco> notKlaatu: see the end of http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/10/introducing-gally.html for how to get lessons, source tarball is on http://launchpad.net/gally
[17:31] <notKlaatu> cool, well waht great timing.  at some point the HPR interview posted.  i can't see it, i'm blocked from their site.
[17:32] <dustybin> anybody here use screen + urxvt
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[17:32] <notKlaatu> dustybin: i used to, switched to mxrvt recently
[17:33] <dustybin> did you manage to get screen to change the top urxvt title bar?
[17:34] <maco> notKlaatu: why are you blocked from a site you report for?
[17:34] <notKlaatu> maco: excellent question :)
[17:35] <notKlaatu> dustybin: no but i gave up after a few tries.
[17:35] <notKlaatu> i can't get it to do that for mrxvt either, to be honest.
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[17:36] <dustybin> notKlaatu: there is a way
[17:37] <notKlaatu> i believe you.
[17:37] <adrien> tmux :P
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[17:39] <dustybin> notKlaatu: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x395.html
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[17:41] <notKlaatu> cool thanks dustybin
[17:41] <notKlaatu> trying it now
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[17:42] <n37wk3r> is there a security distro still based on slackware?
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[17:44] <FriedBob> Other than Slackware?
[17:44] <n37wk3r> :)
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[17:45] Action: rob0 idly wonders what "a security distro" might be
[17:45] <erik> backtrack
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[17:45] <FriedBob> rob0: One that is so secure you can't install it.
[17:46] <n37wk3r> erik backtrack is now based on ubuntu
[17:46] <erik> n37wk3r, not the question I was answering, but thanks.
[17:46] <rob0> FriedBob: :)
[17:46] <n37wk3r> erik, oh
[17:47] <adrien> FriedBob: you mean windows? :o
[17:47] <adrien> (or the hurd /o\ )
[17:47] <FriedBob> rob0: My guess, and I could be wrong, is one that is pre-hardened or more easily hardened.
[17:47] <FriedBob> adrien: One of these days I would like to play around with HURD. It had some neat stuff in it last I looked at it.
[17:48] <adrien> FriedBob: well, tell me if you manage to install it ;-)
[17:48] <FriedBob> Do they even have a product-stable release yet?
[17:48] <FriedBob> I thought it was still all theoretical.
[17:48] <alisonken1home> do they have a product beta at least?
[17:48] <FriedBob> It's been 5 years since I even looked at it, so no idea
[17:49] <adrien> alpha, pre-alpha, technological preview, theorical preview: no :-)
[17:49] <FriedBob> What's next? Theatrical preview?
[17:49] <FriedBob> Coming soon to a gnu/theater near you...
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[17:52] <dustybin> i got it working!!
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[17:52] <dustybin> stick this at the end of your .screenrc
[17:52] <dustybin> hardstatus off
[17:52] <dustybin> hardstatus string "%n %t"
[17:52] <dustybin> :D
[17:53] <adrien> FriedBob: they're making teasers I heard ;-)
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[17:54] <notKlaatu> dustybin: holy cow, it worked.
[17:54] <FriedBob> adrien: I think you have a typo there. Don't you mean "you hurd" ?
[17:54] <dustybin> aye up
[17:54] <notKlaatu> dustybin: you're an ok guy
[17:54] <jeev> anyone else sexy like me and leave a few of their servers named 'darkstar' ?
[17:54] <deco> jeev: your mother
[17:55] <dustybin> jeev: tried asking jeeves?
[17:55] <jeev> no
[17:55] <adrien> FriedBob: ^^
[17:56] <jeev> i was attacked by some idiot in the projects
[17:57] <jeev> he's climbin in your windows, he's snatching your people up, tryin to rape em so you better hide your kids, hide your wife, hide your wife, hide your kids, hide your wife and hide your husbands cause they're rapin errbody out there too
[17:57] <FriedBob> He must have been high or desparate if he was climbing in your windows.
[17:57] <jeev> have you seen it ?
[17:57] <jeev> youtube.com bed intruder
[17:57] <FriedBob> Auto tune the news
[17:57] <jeev> then youtube the remix extended version, it's AMAZING
[17:57] <jeev> yea i love it, been blasting it for like two three weeks
[17:57] <adrien> jeev: NO!
[17:57] <jeev> when i start windows, it plays that song
[17:58] <jeev> when adrien starts windows ME, it starts playing it then crashes
[17:58] <adrien> should be an incentive *not* to run windows
[17:58] <FriedBob> When Dragonforce or Hammerfall does a remix, I will listen to it again.
[17:58] <deco> jeev: listens to katy perry all day
[17:58] <deco> i know i do
[17:58] <adrien> hopefully, I'll clean my mind with Dark Tranquillity live on friday \o/
[17:58] <deco> :D
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[17:59] <FriedBob> deco: Does watching her videos w/ the volume off and speakers unplugged count?
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[17:59] <deco> FriedBob: that's just cheap porn
[18:00] <FriedBob> deco: When you are unemployed gotta do whatcha gotta do.
[18:00] <deco> yup bro no hating
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[18:01] <FriedBob> Hmm. Motley Crue -> Godsmack -> Brownsfield Station. WTF Pandora?
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[18:10] <dustybin> one more quit
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[18:12] <Zordrak> sup
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[18:17] <adrien> hi Zordrak =)
[18:17] Action: Zordrak is in Eindhoven and bored
[18:17] Action: alisonken1home is home and going to bed
[18:18] <sahko> do coffee shops offer wifi?
[18:18] <alisonken1home> other than Starbucks?
[18:18] <Skywise> is this twitter now?
[18:18] <Zordrak> wouldnt take the work laptop down there :)
[18:18] <alisonken1home> and some McDonalds?
[18:18] <Zordrak> waiting for bob to get back from wherever he went today - going for a beer
[18:18] <alisonken1home> I know of a couple - one of them is called "Internet Cafe"
[18:18] <alisonken1home> in El Monte
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[18:19] <Zordrak> and dutch TV is doing my head in
[18:19] <Zordrak> I can watch french TV without getting lost.. dutch is a whole other matter
[18:20] <Roin> At least you can watch TV :p
[18:21] <shteve> so a distrib like ubuntu has those software repositories, i guess slackware have none? gotta download/compile/etc manually right?
[18:21] <Zordrak> The fire is burning me.. at least you have fire?!
[18:21] <Zordrak> shteve: slackbuilds.org
[18:21] <Roin> haha ok you have a point :p
[18:21] <shteve> thanks
[18:21] <Zordrak> shteve: sbopkg.org
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[18:23] <shteve> thats handy, thanks zord
[18:24] <arfon> shteve: some of the Power-Slackers also have pre-built packages on their website.  [looks at alienBOB]
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[18:24] <arfon> [looks at rworkman]
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[18:26] <phrag> Zordrak: you in hamsterdam ?
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[18:31] <adrien> I've suddenly lost my mouse cursor on my external screen but on the laptop's one
[18:31] <adrien> anyone ever saw that? ...
[18:31] <arfon> I did adrien
[18:32] <arfon> can't remember the cause though :(
[18:32] <adrien> I bet on seamonkey
[18:32] Action: deco adrien blames all mozilla projects
[18:32] <deco> :P
[18:33] <adrien> ok
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[18:33] <arfon> Maybe, I keep trying seamonkey thinking that I'm missing out on something then going back to FF/TB
[18:33] <adrien> O better save everything and quit X at least
[18:33] <adrien> I can't switch to VT anymore
[18:33] <deco> :o
[18:34] <deco> arfon: yeah same here i can't tell the difference really apart from UI
[18:34] <adrien> deco: considering how mozilla apps handle dual screen, it's possible
[18:34] <deco> yeah
[18:34] <adrien> (basically, they reimplement WMs functionnality)
[18:34] <deco> oh
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[18:34] <shteve> ew VLC isn't in the repository? :(
[18:35] <arfon> Sounds like they broke it in your case....
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[18:35] <deco> shteve: alienbob has a package for that
[18:35] <shteve> where do i find this said package?
[18:35] <deco> shteve: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/
[18:35] <shteve> thanks
[18:35] <deco> np :)
[18:35] <arfon> deco beat me to it  :(
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[18:35] <shteve> i just switched off linux mint to slackware the other day
[18:35] <shteve> getting a bit lost atm lol
[18:36] <arfon> There goes my one chance today to be useful  :(
[18:36] <deco> arfon: haha :P
[18:36] <deco> shteve: oh lol
[18:36] <arfon> ;)
[18:37] <sahko> any russian user around?
[18:37] <arfon> nyet
[18:37] <arfon> (JK) I don't know
[18:37] <Skywise> i think there is a ##slackware.ru
[18:37] <adrien> arfon: it might look like it's working nicely in your WM but I bet your WM has work-arounds for firefox
[18:37] <arfon> Yeah they do adrien, I patched it with Opera...  :)
[18:38] <adrien> sahko: why? (I have a list of names but...)
[18:38] <sahko> Skywise: #slackware.ru deoped me but noone around
[18:38] <Skywise> try ##
[18:38] <sahko> adrien: a list of what names?
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[18:38] <sahko> Skywise: tried that first. non existant
[18:38] <arfon> THERE'S my bud Skywise
[18:39] <Skywise> hey arfon
[18:39] <adrien> sahko: russians
[18:39] <arfon> hey Skywise
[18:39] <sahko> adrien: russian Slackware users?
[18:39] <sahko> i only know of john_dee and slava_dp
[18:39] <arfon> sahko: Shouldn't that be #clakwap?
[18:39] <adrien> sahko: same :P
[18:40] <deco> lol
[18:40] <sahko> arfon: what?
[18:40] <arfon> (cyrllic letters in a latin set doesn't work well)  :(
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[18:40] <sahko> oh
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[18:42] <sahko> anyway not important
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[18:43] <zongo> Greetings Guys
[18:43] <arfon> Hi zongo
[18:43] <shteve> strange, sbopkg doesn't download the flash-player-plugin :\
[18:43] <shteve> 404 error, fail
[18:44] <arfon> shteve: grab the binary, pull out the .so and drop it into your FF plugins dir
[18:45] <sahko> nevermind i found the answer myself, no need for russian help
[18:45] <zongo> I have a bit of a confusion as far as the error I get trying to start my wireless card.
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[18:46] <adrien> really better save things
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[18:48] <zongo> I get two errors - 1: /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless:line 298: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant: cannot execute binary file. I used /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf as mentionned in the how to
[18:48] <Zordrak> phrag: yep
[18:48] <zongo> http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network
[18:48] <Zordrak> phrag: well.. nope
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[18:48] <Zordrak> phrag: Eindhoven
[18:49] <zongo> the confusion is that only /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf should be sourced ?
[18:49] <zongo> I did set my wpa_supplicant.conf file as well
[18:49] <zongo> the second error i get (pretty similar) /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless: line 310: /usr/sbin/wpa_cli: cannot execute binary file
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[18:50] <zongo> again it seems that it is only looking for rc.wireless
[18:50] <Zordrak> zongo: use wicd instead
[18:50] <zongo> which (if I understood well as per how to) not used or at best superseed
[18:51] <Zordrak> zongo: much more sane
[18:51] <adrien> [67249.492177] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: no space while unhiding cursor
[18:51] <adrien> probably the reason of my troubles
[18:51] <arfon> Is there a fix adrien ?
[18:51] <adrien> restart X probnably ;p
[18:51] <arfon> YAY! WINDOWS!
[18:52] <zongo> Zordrak: you are so right and it works with WICD: but I have always be found of wpa_supplicant which I have used and it worked nicely
[18:52] <arfon> A different sort of three fingered salute
[18:52] <shteve> arfon i put the .so file into my mozilla/extensions folder but still no worky ;p
[18:53] <Zordrak> zongo: if it works with wicd use wicd. Dont fix what isnt broken
[18:53] <arfon> Not extensions, plugins
[18:53] <zongo> + being a newbie, I really would like to understand what is happening here. It would help me have a better grasp of the slackware system
[18:53] <arfon> something like /lib/mozilla/firefox/plugins
[18:53] <arfon> then restart FF
[18:54] <zongo> It seems really hard for me just to use a system; But i get you point though
[18:54] <sahko> zongo: the link you pasted mentions rc.wireless is deprecated, no? also are you sure you're not missing a wpa_supplicant dependency?
[18:55] <arfon> CORRECTION: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[18:55] <Zordrak> what do the dutch call a local shop or grocery store..
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[18:55] <Zordrak> somewhere to buy newspapers, crisps, ice cream, magazines etc
[18:55] <sahko> a super market?
[18:55] <arfon> you want libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[18:56] <Zordrak> is that a statement or a question?
[18:56] <Zordrak> to me a supermarket is very large
[18:56] <sahko> question. memory fails me :/
[18:57] <zongo> sahko: yes it is and not using it as per how to. Hence my confusion as per error messages. I dont think I am missing any wpa_supplicant dependencies (but will look further)
[18:57] <Zordrak> the french might say magazin
[18:57] <Zordrak> i think
[18:57] <Zordrak> or tabac#
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[19:01] <shteve> ah there it is arfon thanks
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[19:01] <arfon> YAY! I'm useful!
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[19:08] <shteve> <3
[19:08] <shteve> that took me forever lol
[19:08] <shteve> i didn't realize the .so file was inside a folder so i'm like uhhh
[19:09] <Zordrak> Well.. fuck it. I'm not sitting on my arse all night waiting for bob to show up like a blind date. I'm off down to the coffeeshop round the corner
[19:09] <arfon> Take your laptop and wait for bob to show up like a blind date there
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[19:10] <Zordrak> I'm not taking the laptop.
[19:10] <Zordrak> But I might take my E90 - if there's wifi I can use that to ssh in
[19:10] <arfon> How will you pick up chicks then???
[19:10] <Zordrak> the?F
[19:10] <arfon> Chicks dig big laptops
[19:11] <Zordrak> Chicks dig single men
[19:11] <rob0> Chicks dig money
[19:11] <Zordrak> Screw the chicks.
[19:12] <rob0> Costs too much money.
[19:12] <arfon> THATS the idea isn't it?
[19:12] <Zordrak> Now to see if I get treated like a frigging tourist
[19:12] <sahko> all dutch people know english
[19:12] <arfon> Are you wearing your short plaid pants and black socks/shoes?
[19:12] <adrien> Zordrak: hmm?
[19:13] <Zordrak> No, I'm wearing my slackware t-shire :
[19:13] <adrien> ah, ok
[19:13] <arfon> You're gonna get some!
[19:13] <rob0> sahko: that's not true. There's an old guy near Rotterdam who does not.
[19:13] <sahko> :P
[19:13] <arfon> Chicks dig slackware
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[19:13] <sahko> And sys admins!
[19:14] <adrien> "magasin" btw, or "supérette" (smaller than supermarket), or "épicier" (20m² or so), tabac/bar-tabac (kind of pub)
[19:14] <arfon> He's faking it rob0 (the old guy near rotterdam)
[19:14] <sahko> btw theres so many foreigners in the nl, i doubt anyone gets treated like a tourist :p
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[19:14] <Zordrak> l8rs peeps
[19:14] <arfon> GL Zordrak
[19:14] <rob0> Chicks dig peeps
[19:15] <lee_> not good and cli .. need to do something like: # mv ??" - David Gilmour"*.mp3 /Album  can someone correct my method?
[19:16] <adrien> Zordrak: you can't be more tourist than tourists in paris
[19:16] <lee_> the tourist we have here are called Tourons ..
[19:16] <arfon> lee_: rsync?
[19:16] Action: arfon LOVES rsync for dir moves
[19:17] <lee_> arfon: just trying to move files to a subdirecty using something like wildcards ..
[19:17] <rob0> test your glob expresion with ls(1)
[19:17] <lee_> files -> dir, not dir->dir
[19:17] <lee_> glob is the correct word.
[19:18] <rob0> Did it list all the ones you want? Did it list only the ones you want?
[19:18] <arfon> well, mv /home/user/mp3/rock/* /newdir    should work
[19:19] <arfon> even mv /home/user/music/*.mp3 /newdir should work
[19:19] <sahko> use nautilus ffs, its 2010!
[19:20] <adrien> **!
[19:21] <lee_> arfon: don't want to move ALL mp3 files, just the ones that have David Gilmour in the filename.
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[19:22] <arfon> even mv /home/user/music/David\ Gilmore*.mp3 /newdir should work
[19:23] <arfon> try ls /home/user/music/*David\ Gilmore*.mp3
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[19:27] <adrien> what about find?
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[19:29] <sahko> does anyone use an online service like google reader, besides..google reader?
[19:31] <arfon> I use Google reader, google calendar, gamil
[19:31] <arfon> Also used netvibes
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[19:32] <admboom> sahko, i use google reader, gmail, cal, apps, domains et-al
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[19:33] <arfon> I also use Opera's reader (but I think that's a local app)
[19:33] <sahko> arfon: whats gamil?
[19:34] <arfon> i's gmail for dyslexics
[19:34] <sahko> haha
[19:34] <arfon> and i's is it's for bad spellers
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[19:39] <WhiteWolf1776> anyone checked out kde 4.5.2?
[19:40] <dustybin> check out my i3 desktop
[19:40] <dustybin> http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9260/snapshot2o.png
[19:40] <sahko> thats grose
[19:40] <dustybin> :(
[19:40] <admboom> dustybin, looks like xmonad
[19:40] <dustybin> its i3
[19:41] <admboom> i liked the tiling wm's, learned a fair bit of haskell
[19:41] <dustybin> http://i3.zekjur.net/
[19:42] <admboom> hhe "well documented code" with documented bolded.  I am guessing they have used the other two top tiling wm's
[19:42] <adrien> still thinking that anything that can't get itself some configuration language is worth throwing
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[19:43] <admboom> yea i use kde now...  i liked xmonad, but the need to compile each config option in function statments got old after a few years
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[19:43] Action: admboom bookmarked i3.zekjur 
[19:44] <admboom> i'm going to have to give that a spin
[19:44] <dustybin> its really nice
[19:45] <admboom> how does it handle floating windows/X popups?
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[19:45] <dustybin> admboom: perfectly
[19:46] <dustybin> i have firefox on another screen
[19:46] <admboom> lol
[19:46] <pep_> Hello, I have recently decided to permanently switch from Debian to Slackware. (which used to be only in a virtual machine.)
[19:46] <dustybin> full screen
[19:46] <sahko> i3 is a wmii copy
[19:46] <dustybin> i3 is coded from scratch
[19:46] <dustybin> in c
[19:47] <arfon> Congrats pep_
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[19:48] <pep_> So I made a clean install, re-using my 3 partitions; root, home, swap. It seems though, that LILO installed itself somewhere else than in the MBR (I was hoping it would, so as to overwrite GRUB.) Now, GRUB ofc doesn't find the partition its looking for, and if I use a GRUB recovery CD, I get a kernel panic: unable to mount root fs. (no fs could mount root)
[19:49] <arfon> So you want to know how to recover?
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[19:49] <pep_> could it be that it's the ext4 fs choice that conflicts with something? Or a simpler question... is there a way to reinstall LILO on the MBR, and in doing so, overwrite GRUB? ( I don't really care how... I can reinstall everything if I have to, but did I miss an option during the installation?)
[19:50] <arfon> pep_: yes, easy fix
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[19:50] <arfon> IF lilo didn't go into the MBR, you messed up on one menu selection during install
[19:50] <pep_> I have read in different sources that it's either the ext4 conflicting, and others that I should put LILO in the MBR...
[19:51] <sahko> pep_: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/09/29/re-installing-lilo-from-a-slackware-boot-cd/
[19:51] <arfon> I would fix it this way: reboot with slackware install disc, DO NOT FDISK again
[19:51] <pep_> Oh, okay, so it *should* have overwritten grub and worked perfectly.
[19:51] <arfon> ...or follow's sahko's link...
[19:51] <pep_> I will check out that link, thank you.
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[19:51] <arfon> sahko takes the wind from arfon's sails.
[19:52] <pep_> I chose to install LILO, I'm quite sure of that, no idea where it put it though.
[19:52] <slink> does anyone suggest using DSA over RSA for security when generating a private/public key?
[19:52] <pep_> I should have payed more attention.
[19:52] <sahko> thats the point of documentation.avoid  giving instructions for the same thing over and over
[19:53] <admboom> pep_, i am guessing it detected the mbr having grub and decided to put it on the partition instead
[19:53] <sahko> im surprised lilo is that smart
[19:53] <sahko> can it really do that?
[19:53] <pep_> Oh, okay, because I was quite sure to have chosen to put it in the mbr... But I will read the link first.
[19:53] <admboom> methinks its the installer, not lilo
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[19:53] <admboom> because the ncursses menu highlights the choices based on what it determines
[19:54] <elefher_> kalisperaa paidia
[19:54] <elefher_> tha ithela mia voithia
[19:54] <BP{k}> elefher_: english please :)
[19:54] <BP{k}> but goodevening to you as well :P
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[19:57] <NyteOwl> slink: no, I'd recommend RSA. Apparently DSA has a weakness that can be exploit4ed to reveal the private key
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[20:01] <adrien> hmmm?
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[20:06] <pep__> sahko, if I may ask, am I supposed to add anything to the /etc/lilo.conf ? Because I executed the procedure as described, only it did not exactly reinstall anything I think... and if it did, it's till booting on GRUB... :/
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[20:07] <pep__> The messages after running "lilo" where: "Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed"; "Added Linux *"; "One warning was issued." -- nothing about installing..?
[20:08] <WhiteWolf1776> pep__: I get that too, but it should install on the mbr
[20:08] <sahko> pep__: that warning can be ignored. can you pastebin the file?
[20:09] <pep__> The lilo.conf? Well I'm on a different machine now, but I can check if I find it... it looks OK to me. I'll get something to show, just a sec...
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[20:12] <pep__> http://pastebin.org/64418 This is it, without comments.
[20:13] <pep__> (I have a Thinkpad R61 by the way.)
[20:14] <sahko> boot should be /dev/sda if its gonna be in the mbr
[20:14] <pep__> Oh, great! I'll change that right away then. =)
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[20:16] <pep__> Ah wicked. It booting.
[20:18] <pep__> Thank you, I will configure it now.
[20:18] <sahko> you can use liloconfig as root
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[20:20] <pep__> Do I need to? I thought it's installed now...
[20:20] <pep__> I will try expert mode now, since I got the bad config with automatic.
[20:20] <sahko> yeah, probably good idea
[20:21] <pep__> Yeah, so my current conf has boot under sda, that's good.
[20:22] <pep__> No need to change anything to lilo right now imo. I'll add my suer and get on with the rest... :)
[20:23] <pep__> user*
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[20:27] <sahko> well since it works, you could do that too:)
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[20:38] <pep_> Thanks for your help! Have a nice day.
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[20:46] <crashdata> hello
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[20:50] <arfon> Hi crashdata
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[21:04] <crocket> Hello
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[21:04] <shteve> how do you add new installed programs (ie. wine) to the application launcher
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[21:05] <dustybin> is this the official slackware forum:
[21:05] <dustybin> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/
[21:06] <adrien> shteve: they need to provide .desktop files
[21:06] <crashdata> shteve, if you're using kde then it will just automatically add it for you
[21:06] <shteve> ya i am using kde but it isn't there ;\
[21:06] <crashdata> run the program
[21:08] <shteve> nothing
[21:08] <shteve> damn wine
[21:09] <lee_> arfon: no, the full filenames are [track number] - David Gilmour - [track title].mp3
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[21:11] <arfon> That's some lag lee_
[21:12] <arfon> soooo... mv *David\ Gilmour*.mp3  /newdir
[21:12] <arfon> does ls *avid\ Gilmour*.mp3 list them correctly?
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[21:17] <crocket> hmm
[21:17] <crocket> If I set the volume to 50% in rhythmbox, pause the music, restart rhythmbox, and play any music, then the volume jumps up to 100%.
[21:17] <crocket> Does anybody know why it happens?
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[21:19] Action: arfon doesn't even know what rythmbox is.
[21:23] <BP{k}> gnome music player iirc.
[21:24] <BP{k}> Rhythmbox is an integrated music management application, originally inspired by Apple's iTunes. It is free software, designed to work well under the GNOME Desktop, and based on the powerful GStreamer media framework.
[21:25] <crocket> ??
[21:27] <dustybin> mocp ftw
[21:27] Action: arfon doesn't even know what gnome is.
[21:27] <arfon> [looks around]
[21:28] <shteve> so anyone else know why Wine did not add to my kde program launcher?
[21:29] <arfon> Forgive me shteve but, what do you do by launching wine?
[21:29] <arfon> don't you: wine paint.exe?
[21:29] <dustybin> people who use wine should just use windows
[21:30] <shteve> well i'm trying to get eve-online to work, and in linux mint or ubuntu it always added wine-> games you have installed and you just run it
[21:30] <arfon> Ow dustybin :(
[21:30] <shteve> this isn't the case here ;p
[21:31] <arfon> Hmmm, I installed Anarchy Online via wine and it was put into my XFCE menu....  In the wrong spot but still in the menu
[21:31] <arfon> Are you sure it's not under the wrong header?
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[21:32] <shteve> i checked them all
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[21:33] <arfon> Not sure then...  I use XFCE
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[21:36] <arfon> shteve: I just googled: KDE menu ".desktop" and got a bunch of hits....
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[21:37] <BP{k}> heh.
[21:42] <crocket> dustybin, I just use virtualbox.
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[21:45] <dustybin> do a lot of linux people eat pizzas?
[21:47] <arfon> dustybin: where do you get these questions?
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[21:47] <adrien> dustybin: I heard most happened to drink water
[21:47] <dustybin> arfon: im sure there is a connection
[21:47] <adrien> (and beer)
[21:47] <arfon> EVERY linux person I know (personally) eats pizzas
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[21:48] <arfon> EVERY windoz person I know (personally) eats pizzas too.
[21:48] <nooper> i dont actually know anyone who wont eat pizzas. but only some of those people use linux
[21:48] <phrag> what..!? dustybin is buying us all pizza?
[21:48] <arfon> SWEET!
[21:49] <lee_> arfon: I'm at work .. that was the first string I tried.
[21:49] <arfon>  Double pepperoni for me plz
[21:49] <Zordrak> I am totally sat in the best coffeebar in Eindhoven.
[21:49] <phrag> Zordrak: nice =)
[21:49] <Zordrak> yep.
[21:49] <phrag> jealous!
[21:49] <arfon> lee_: I'm at work so I can't test but the *blah* should work....
[21:50] <arfon> Zordrak: chat up any cuties?
[21:50] <Zordrak> having spent 2 hours in the best rock bar in Eindhoven!
[21:50] <shteve> ya arfon i looked at that, maybe i'll find something in one of these links
[21:50] <Zordrak> arfon: i'm taken
[21:50] <Zordrak> screw bob - he missed out! :)
[21:50] <arfon> :)
[21:50] <Zordrak> alienBOB: dude wtf?
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[21:53] <lee_> mv: cannot stat `*David': No such file or directory mv: cannot stat `Gilmour*.mp3': No such file or directory
[21:54] <Zordrak> # I wanna be a billionaire, so.. fucking bad...
[21:54] Action: Zordrak is a bit drunk
[21:54] <arfon> lee_:  did you "\ "  ?
[21:54] <Zordrak> damn Bavaria
[21:54] <lee_> no arfon
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[21:55] <arfon> THATS the problem....   you have to "\" before blank spaces in filenames
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[21:57] <sahko> lee_: and as you were told earlier, try with ls first instead of mv, in order to test how the command works. its safer
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[21:59] <arfon> Well, slackers, it's quit'in time...  You guys have a good night.  :)
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[22:00] <Zordrak> the guy who does IT for this coffeebar used to run a slackware server... time for a reconversion methinks!!
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[22:35] <alienBOB> Zordrak: yeah... I am not even in Eindhoven... I stayed in Amsterdam. And my phone battery is empty.
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[22:38] <Skywise> alienBob, where in amsterdam?
[22:39] <Skywise> this is my favorite time of year in amsterdam, i love the steam rising off the canals in the morning with a low orange sun
[22:41] <jeev> i want to fart in a cold environment and see steam
[22:41] <jeev> gaseous steam, is that even possible
[22:41] <jeev> jhrmf
[22:41] <jeev> fart vapor
[22:41] <Skywise> or fog or a cloud
[22:41] <jeev> or a hurricane
[22:41] <Skywise> there wasn't much wind
[22:44] <jeev> Skywise, you're awesome with ms access, no?
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[22:46] <Skywise> whats up?
[22:47] <jeev> ?
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[22:47] <Skywise> did you have a access question?/
[22:48] <jeev> yea, i kind of know how to do it in mysql, 3 tables.. one table has a lot of info, i want a few things from it but they link to an ID to the other table
[22:49] <Skywise> you know how they have the table view
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[22:49] <Skywise> you can just create the tables and then drag and drop for the foreign key
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[22:54] <jeev> yea let me see, stupid access
[22:55] <jeev> bah
[22:56] <jeev> i will export and import to mysql
[22:56] <nooper> lol
[22:56] <Skywise> use the tool you're handiest with
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[22:58] <jeev> mah penix ?
[22:58] <Skywise> it does sql queries?
[22:59] <jeev> it queries everything
[22:59] <Skywise> you might wanna have that looked at
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[23:01] <jeev> it today asked me why did bush get reelected if he did so bad the first term..
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[23:01] <Skywise> because its easier to steal an election when you've had practice
[23:02] <jeev> byteframe is on
[23:03] <Skywise> everyone knew he was going to steal ohio, the president of diebold said he was gonna help steal ohio, and they stole ohio
[23:03] <byteframe> ?
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[23:18] <hiptobecubic> Because people don't like to change presidents during wars.
[23:19] <Skywise> they deliberately withheld voting machines from districts that were for kerry and in urban areas
[23:20] <Skywise> where as  bush supported areas often had surpluses of machines, and there were over 450 machines that were never distributed
[23:20] Action: Soul_keeper slaps Skywise 
[23:20] <hiptobecubic> Skywise, I mean. Don't get me wrong. Everything about 2004 was an enormous clusterfuck. I'm just commenting on why people who didn't like bush still convinced themselves to vote for him.
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