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[03:19] uva (as@111-240-223-221.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] guys i want to hook up my laptop to the TV screen... want to know what (know-how) do i need except the connector cables? I mean... is Display (system settings) the only place to do stuff? or would my experience be better with some software package? [03:23] njathan: I *reckon* the cables should be all you need [03:24] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:24] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:26] thanks tsccof.... :-) [03:29] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [03:29] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. 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[03:36] tsccof, thanks.. the 'TV side' of the port is S-Video... and i am looking at S-Video cables that have audio male pins at the other end.. i assume it must be a S-video thing then [03:37] njathan: good "luck" there ;) I hope you get everything to work alright [03:37] i mean the S-video connector has 3 RCA at the other end... i was trying to find a cable that has VGA male on the other end.... [03:37] WireWulf (ASTRO-PUNK@unaffiliated/wirewulf) left irc: Quit: PARTY TIME [03:39] phe (1000@AToulouse-258-1-45-50.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:39] njathan: I think your best option would be VGA/S-Video and standard sound jack/RCA [03:40] njathan: one end/other end [03:40] njathan: that's how I would do it, at least :p [03:41] alberthfmn (~alberthfm@187.113.5.76) joined ##slackware. [03:42] tsccof, yeah... even i am looking for such... but all i can see on the shopping sites is VGA/3RCA..... i cannot find a VGA/S-Video [03:44] alberthfmn (~alberthfm@187.113.5.76) left irc: Client Quit [03:44] alberthfmn (~alberthfm@187.113.5.76) joined ##slackware. [03:47] njathan: VGA/3RCA for video and standard sound jack/RCA would get the job done, though [03:47] njathan: vga/yellow rca -- S.S.J./white and red rca [03:47] njathan: and I think it is cheaper than s-video too! :p [03:48] lalala [03:48] d [03:48] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:48] dd [03:48] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [03:48] Nick change: alberthfmn -> vncsnvs [03:51] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [04:01] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[05:48] wertik_rus (wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:48] alienBlurb, affirmative [05:48] what about Kii-kun ? [05:50] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: quitter [05:53] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [05:55] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:56] epapi (~epapi@78.134.13.68) joined ##slackware. [05:57] hi all. is there a slackbuild for xfce-power-manager 1.0.1? [05:57] or precompiled pkgs? [05:58] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:58] the slackbuild on current does not work [05:58] YOu don't like the one shipped with slackware? [05:59] Oh, you want 1.0.1 [05:59] dsiregard [06:03] epapi: the SlackBuild does not create a working package, or the current version of xfce-power-manager does not work? [06:03] Kii-kun needs to turn off the auto-away as well [06:04] pete` (~user@016.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:04] i've found one http://github.com/PhantomX/slackbuilds/raw/1b089f04dc316b98c123e775a6d8c15ad68a493a/xfce-goodies/xfce4-power-manager/xfce4-power-manager.SlackBuild [06:04] it works [06:04] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:05] the current slackbuild does not compile the 1.0.1 the 0.8.5 version has critical problem with my laptop... [06:07] how do I turn of the "joined" and "quit" messages? i hate to see those... [06:07] epapi (~epapi@78.134.13.68) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:07] another one... [06:08] alienBOB, how do I turn of the "joined" and "quit" messages? i find this very annoying... [06:08] pete`` (~user@072.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:08] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-15-66.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:08] Join and quit messages are diferent from away messages. When someone quits, that is news. When somone is away, I do not want to know he is visiting the toilet [06:09] But, many IRC clients can hide joinss and quits for you [06:10] Even this 6 year old xchat client has a preference setting to hide join/part messages [06:10] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-94-248.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:10] pete` (~user@016.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:11] alienBOB, cool, i use xchat.. is there an option? i can't find it... [06:12] jemark: here it is Settings > Preferences > Chatting > General [06:12] irssi: /ignore c00re JOINS,PARTS,QUITS [06:12] :) [06:12] See [06:12] (/help ignore) [06:13] alienBOB and C00re , cool thanks a lot [06:13] np. 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[06:28] shadowx: which graphic driver are you using? [06:29] the nvidia binary driver (last version) [06:29] you reinstalled it? which version? [06:30] yes i did, and the version is 256.53 [06:31] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: quitter [06:32] btw the problem doesn't occur very often .... let's say 3-5% of the times [06:33] well, I don't think xorg-server-1.9 can really be blamed here: as far as I can tell, the support for xorg-server-1.9 in this nvidia driver is "preliminary" [06:33] I doubt you can do more than just wait [06:34] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:35] I'm not in a hurry ....this is a problem i can live with :) [06:35] Thanks :] [06:36] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. 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[09:39] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:40] GArik_ (~wesnoth@95-29-237-31.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:49] guys what do you us for gtalk voice chat on slackware? [09:49] *what do you use? [09:50] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [09:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [09:51] Fish_Kungfu (~Fish_Kung@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [09:54] kopete [09:54] for chat, but not voice [09:56] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC0BD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:57] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:57] kickback (~Unknown@122.176.225.25) joined ##slackware. [09:59] Axius (~fd@109.97.35.28) joined ##slackware. [10:01] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:02] admboom, yeah.. i do use kopete for chat [10:02] what i am looking for is a hack for voice chat [10:02] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:02] think pidgin supports that [10:03] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:03] i don't believe so [10:03] http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html [10:04] i use skype, or bring up a winblows [k]vm [10:04] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.227.44) joined ##slackware. [10:04] skype is life! [10:04] or something. [10:04] I would like skype better if they would build a 64 bit version [10:05] i would like skype better if ebay didn't own it [10:05] luckily my Asus has a 32bit linux instance in the bios, so I don't need multilib (i prefer pure 64) [10:05] no shit, I've been wanting to run 64 bit slack but I'm waiting for a few apps to go 64bit [10:06] like most of windows? :P [10:06] skype and flash among them. I think there'll be a 64 bit flash when html 5 finally comes around [10:07] d34df00d (~d34df00d@93.175.14.160) joined ##slackware. [10:07] Hi! [10:07] Hello! [10:07] hola [10:07] I recently got a email from a user of my application under slackware, he reports a bug in slackbuild. [10:07] Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Slackware, and contacts with the one that made the slackbuild are lost. [10:08] more vagueness please. [10:08] yes, we need moar! [10:08] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [10:08] MOAR! [10:08] Could you please help me with it? Here's the report: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/258795/ [10:08] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:08] The slackbuild is for the `leechcraft` application, and I hardly know where it is. Actually, I didn't even know that there is a slackbuild for it until I got that email. [10:09] d34df00d: if this is not your slackbuild, why are you bothering with it ? is there a bug in YOUR application ? [10:09] line 62 looks like it is the error. you can hardly expect us to debug an invisible script though [10:09] i gather the user of the sb opened a ticket in the wrong area [10:10] adaptr: no, that's not a bug in my application, that's a bug in slackbuild for my app (seems like). [10:10] d34df00d: good. now re-read my question. [10:10] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:10] says it is maintained by rexim [10:10] you already went one step too far [10:10] adaptr: and I bother because, well, that's related to my app. [10:10] we need the slackbuild if you could pastebin that [10:10] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.1/network/leechcraft/leechcraft.SlackBuild [10:11] d34df00d: so ? it's not your slackbuild, whoever made the slackbuild apparently didnt' tell you about it [10:11] ooo thankyou BP{k} [10:11] there's no bug in you upstream package [10:11] end of story, really [10:11] adaptr: well, if I'm sort of project lead, shouldn't I bother with such stuff? [10:11] if they ask YOU, yes. [10:11] nobody did [10:11] d34df00d thanks for that report. if it is the SBo package BP{k} mentioned then it seems there's an error [10:11] says oxd34df00d@gmail.com [10:11] on the sbo [10:12] admboom: ok, I got that email on my address, after all. [10:12] Oh, sorry, adaptr, that was for you. [10:12] d34df00d: how can you be expected to be responsible for a downstream package based on your application if you were not involved in it ? [10:12] adaptr stop being silly [10:12] d34df00d, did you submit that slackbuild? [10:12] adaptr: well, I can't. But I can try to find someone who can fix that. [10:12] he is helping slackware, don't you realize this? [10:12] admboom: nope. [10:13] mancha: silly ? he didn't make the slackbuild! find the slacker, pummel him, take over the slackbuild, release a working one. [10:13] adaptr, lol [10:13] So I try to find a slacker, ##slackware seems like a pretty suitable place. [10:13] but yeah, you should switch to using slackware d34df00d - it's much moar better [10:13] adaptr: let's not start yet another distro arguments :) [10:13] THAT's helping slackware, mancha - subverting devs [10:14] BP{k}/d34df00d, does adding quotes to this line fix? "$EXTRA_CMAKE_FLAGS \ [10:14] d34df00d: ah, so you agree with me :) [10:14] "$EXTRA_CMAKE_FLAGS" \ [10:14] mancha: eh, how do I know? [10:14] I don't have Slackware around me. [10:14] :O [10:14] adaptr: will check :) [10:14] that was more directed at BP{k} I guess. [10:14] adaptr: "pummel" is a real word? ._. [10:15] mancha: I saw my nickname so decided to answer :) [10:15] Roin: do you need a link to a dictionary :) [10:15] dictionary.reference.com [10:15] d34df00d that's fine, i like to see your nickname on my screen anyways [10:15] adaptr: no just looked at the translator :D [10:15] even though what the translator says doesnt make much sense... [10:16] what translator ? [10:16] translate.google.com [10:16] ugh [10:16] http://translate.google.de/#en|de|pummel hm... [10:16] either that or add EXTRA_CMAKE_FLAGS="" to the two other arch blocks (i486 and i686) [10:16] mancha: yes. that would be the direction I am leaning in for consistency sake. [10:17] that is my fix. use at your discretion but keep in mine that copyright 2010 is held by Mancha [10:17] *mind [10:17] kickback (~Unknown@122.176.225.25) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:17] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] mancha: oh, could you please add whatever fix you like the most and upload that with whatever copyrights for 2010 you want? [10:18] Seems like maintaining the Slackbuild by myself without having Slackware is a bad idea. [10:18] logical conclusion [10:19] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:19] d34df00d, slackware.com has the downloads for slackware available for free [10:19] |Slacker| (~cris@187.46.135.226) joined ##slackware. [10:19] d34df00d i was joking about copyright (everyone is so copyright crazy these days). BP{k} has my suggested fix and he's a big enchilada on www.slackbuilds.org so he will fix it i am sure. [10:20] my microphone does not seem to work! any pointers? [10:20] is a big enchilada bigger than a big burrito? [10:20] njathan, unmute it [10:20] d34df00d, your attention to this problem was above and beyond the call of duty. The maintainer of that Slackbuild is the one who is responsible. [10:20] xovan: yeah, but... Well, I hardly have time now for developing the app, and surely even less time for other distros but the one that I use. [10:21] xovan, well.. its unmuted and all levels on the alsamixer are set to 100 [10:21] mancha: oh, thanks a lot, that's awesome. [10:21] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:21] hmm putting it in the $ARCH statement is the way forward: since it works on 64bit, instead of 32bits. [10:21] njathan, what kind of microphone? [10:21] usb headset? [10:22] xovan, its a headphone-cum-mic kinds [10:22] not usb [10:22] the normal with 1 pin for each [10:23] d34df00d, in the meantime, you can tell your user that he can use this "corrected" slackbuild: http://mancha.pastebin.com/QMgyr2jV [10:23] have you tried running alsaconf? [10:23] xovan, i am trying it on the skype call testing service [10:23] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:23] ah, do you have the correct device selected in your preferences? [10:24] pete`` (~user@072.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:24] xovan, checking....... [10:24] anyone using deluge in slackware? [10:26] d34df00d: didnt you say *you* uploaded the .SlackBuild to slackbuilds.org ? [10:26] no, he was entirely unaware of where said slackbuild came from, he was responding to a user-submitted bug [10:27] the user send him the report instead of the build maintainer and d34df00d was kind enough to take the lead on fixing it... [10:27] *sent [10:27] mancha: oh, thanks a lot for that slackbuild. [10:27] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] oh right, sorry misread [10:28] d34df00d, put it on your site and see if you can get in touch with a slacker that can keep it up to date [10:28] d34df00d: which rendering engine is leechcraft using? gecko? [10:29] sahko: nope, webkit. [10:29] Qt's one. [10:29] oh right, thanks [10:30] never heard of the app til now [10:30] Yeah, it originally was some kind of educational/experimental project, some time ago I decided to put it in public, but never tried to make it more known. [10:33] And, well, opensource community in the place where I live is not so friendly. I would hardly get any help like I got here without lots of trolling and such stuff. [10:33] Russia ? [10:33] xovan, argh! it worked for a flash of a second once... but never again :-( [10:34] d34df00d: fixed it in my branch, should get out on the next update. [10:34] adaptr: yeah, how you've guessed that? [10:34] njathan, damn [10:34] BP{k}: thanks a lot. [10:34] d34df00d: your email is 0xd34df00d at gmail dot com ? [10:34] sahko: yes, feel free to get in touch. [10:34] You can also use Jabber, d34df00d at jabber dot ru. [10:35] thats why you got the email... the maintainer put it instead of his own.. [10:35] the SlackBuild maintainer [10:35] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:35] xovan, an observation... while the call testing service is on, the 'Docking Mic' and 'Docking Mic (capture)' levels go to half.... and restore to full when the call is done [10:35] are you in kde or in another DE or WM? [10:35] xovan, kde [10:36] sahko: well spotted. [10:36] do some mic tests with the system settings without skype turned on [10:36] |Slacker| (~cris@187.46.135.226) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:36] might as well fix that. [10:36] see if the sound card's driver is working properly [10:37] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-219.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [10:37] xovan, you mean at System Settings (General) -> multimedia ? [10:37] BP{k}: you know the right one? [10:38] njathan, yep [10:38] sahko: yes. [10:38] nice:) [10:39] grissiom (~grissiom@121.19.45.216) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:39] xovan, in the audio capture section, when i click on Communication -> HDA Intel (CONEXANT Analog).. the 'test' button is greyed [10:39] well at least it sees it, thought that it might let you test it [10:40] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:40] L3k523r0 (~L3k523r0@ns2.openhardware.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:40] L3k523r0 (~L3k523r0@ns2.openhardware.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:40] njathan, my only guess is that the driver sorta works maybe if you wrote an alsa.conf it might help [10:41] lexszero (~lexszero@ns2.openhardware.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:41] hello [10:42] i tried to install slackware, but get tired of manually solving dependencies [10:42] d34df00d you're welcome for the fixed script. and thank you for bringing it to ##slackware's attention. [10:42] how do you deal with it, slack ppl? [10:42] mancha: thank you, you all are awesome and nice community. [10:43] lexszero, some people use a script to update their important stuff [10:43] By the way, how one could install the app under Slackware? I think it's a good idea to put instructions on app's site. [10:43] this sounds very kludgy and ill-minded [10:43] they just ./slackbuild.Slackbuild [10:43] Action: NaCl does sh slackbuild.SlackBuild [10:44] lexszero, the idea is to give you more control when building apps [10:44] It's all about the control [10:44] d34df00d: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/leechcraft/ [10:44] they download the files in the slackbuild.org section for leechcraft, run sh leechcraft.SlackBUild and that makes a leechcraft-$VERSIONSTUFF.tgz. the user then runs installpkg on that .tgz file [10:44] there is no system packet manager, that deals with all stuff automatically? [10:44] Ok, great. [10:44] no automagic [10:45] lexszero, there is slackpkg which does it manually but not automagic [10:45] its brainmagic [10:45] d34df00d: I also fixed the address to the right maintainer so you shouldn't get too many emails ;) [10:45] mario, lol [10:45] BP{k}: oh, thanks, though that's no problem :) [10:46] d34df00d: well the bug reports regarding the package building should go to the maintainer realy ;) so that people can bug you with real problems regarding the source ;) [10:46] tried gentoo few month ago, there also a great application building system that takes my preferences into consideration [10:46] are you people robots? :) [10:46] Yeah, that's a good point. [10:46] lexszero, no just cultists :D [10:46] ...join...us... [10:47] Also, is it a good idea to make some kind of split package out of this one? The application is modular, and to rebuild (or add, or remove) a module one shouldn't rebuild the whole app. [10:47] njathan, did you read up on your soundcard's linux support? [10:47] xovan, yay! its now worked :-) [10:47] yeah, all in all this is a total rexim fail [10:47] njathan, good :D [10:48] d34df00d: Slackware doesnt do split packages [10:48] no, thx. i have better thinks to do than resolving huge&bloated software dependencies with google [10:48] okay sorted. [10:48] Though I feel like I overusing your generousity if I ask you to help (well, rewrite, to be honest) with that. [10:48] depends on the situation [10:48] xovan, strange.. i switched to generic driver in alsaconf.. non success.. switched back to intel.. worked [10:48] virtualbox created a corrupt diskimage and its refusing me to chmod u+rw so I can delete it [10:48] Action: BP{k} returns to bacon + coffee. [10:48] sahko: I don't know any distros that do, but in debian we have just a .deb package for each module, and in gentoo a ebuild for each module. [10:48] njathan make sure you alsactl store the settings [10:48] its saying the file is read only, even root cant touch it [10:48] Maybe one could have a slackbuild for each module in Slackware. [10:49] xovan, aah yes.. thanks :-) [10:49] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:49] d34df00d, slackbuilds.org is community maintained, with different folks volunteering to maintain non-official slackware software (your application falls into this category). [10:49] d34df00d: probably not gonna happen if you dont split the source yourself (the upstream), at least not on slackbuilds.org [10:50] is there some force delete option I can pass to get rid of the 4 gig file? [10:50] your best bet on getting the build structure of your application changed to a modular one (which makes sense) would be to email the maintainer of leechcraft for slackware [10:50] "rexim" [10:50] and the buld isn't that big. [10:50] i closed the file but it was cmake with qt4 deps, iirc. that means it takes hours :) [10:50] sahko: what do you mean by splitting the source? [10:50] kamii, see what has it open [10:50] KaMii, cfdisk :p rm should work as root [10:50] Skywise: nothing [10:51] vbox crashed [10:51] KaMii, and rm -rf doesn't work? [10:51] I can make split archives for release versions, but I would hardly handle over 20 git repos, one for each module. [10:51] d34df00d: eg. ship leechcraft-www and leechcraft-ftp instead of one big leechcraft. isnt that what you meant as well? [10:51] well, then you might wanna reboot and fsck your drive [10:51] Skywise: no rm -rf does not work [10:52] ok, i am finally curious! what *is* leechcraft?:) [10:52] or go to runlevel 1 remount the partition ro and fsck it [10:52] i dont need to reboot, its on another drive [10:52] oh [10:52] mancha: it looks decent for a modern app like that imo [10:52] dismount the drive then, fsck it [10:52] fsck is going to take forever its a 1 tb drive [10:52] but its qt-webkit dont know if you like that :p [10:53] mancha: well, that's a modular application, with modules providing a web browser, a rss reader, torrent client and some other stuff already. [10:53] i don't mind qt, i have issues with webkit [10:53] KaMii, then you should get started [10:53] Action: xovan points and laughs at KaMii for buying new hardware [10:53] It's in C++/Qt, modules in Qt Script (basically ECMA-262) and Python is supported. [10:53] IM is planned, some other curious things are as well. [10:54] d34df00d nice. so a complete internet experience in one big app :) [10:54] d34df00d, so its like having firefox only more modular? [10:54] mancha: its basically a one tool to deal with all of the web sort of thing [10:54] xovan: sort of. [10:54] like seamonkey+++ [10:54] fsck will not run on that drive [10:54] And it's all in C++/Qt (until I introduced scripting) instead of XUL. [10:54] mancha: yeah. [10:54] it says there is not a valid ext2 system [10:54] bull [10:54] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:54] i didnt know vbox could brick a hdd [10:54] And, well, it started cause I used Azureus some quite a long time ago and was tired of its overall bloat, so I decided to write a torrent-client by myself. [10:55] Axius (~fd@109.97.35.28) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:55] KaMii, what does fdisk say about it [10:55] Then I decided to make it modular, than to add an RSS reader, and then a web browser... you know :) [10:55] fisk -l [10:55] fdisk -l [10:55] fdisk reports everything as normal [10:55] wow, im getting tons of lag [10:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [10:56] d34df00d, maybe you should compete with google and make your own netbook based os [10:56] xovan: that's hard, cause I should study and pay bills as well. [10:57] d34df00d, stupid life getting in the way of science. [10:58] i seem to remember putting ext3 on that drive not ext2 so I dont know why fsck is crying about ext2 [10:58] Hehe. I double agree with you, since I study for applied math, and I would be happy to do machine learning-dependent stuff in the nearest future, if only it was funded well enough here. [10:59] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:59] KaMii, did you use fsck or e2fsck [11:00] got it back [11:00] fsck -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 [11:00] there ya go [11:00] first I just tried fsck /deb/sdb1 and it cried about ext2 [11:00] KaMii: ext3 is nothing more than a journal installed on top of ext2 - that's why ext2 is talking to you [11:00] d34df00d, what would give a "plugins/lcftp/worker.cpp:222: error: 'CURLPAUSE_ALL' was not declared in this scope" [11:01] i thought fsck was smart enough to know what fs the drive was using [11:01] oh ok [11:01] seems like a missing include in the lcftp plugin source? [11:01] that would explain why fsck was fixing my journaled drive [11:01] ext4 is an updated that includes journalling in the fs [11:01] mancha: libcurl is known to break compatibility between versions, I suggest turning it off for now (-DENABLE_FTP=False flag to cmake). [11:01] it usually is, but there may be something wrong with the fs [11:01] still, I had no idea vbox could mess up a HDD [11:01] that the journal lets the fsck now fix [11:02] Anyway, I'd get my hands on fixing stuff that got outdated since 7.19.4 (the version I developed it with) the next week. [11:02] well, it could of been some disk error took out vbox [11:02] d34df00d aha, ok. will note it down and shelf the compile for some other day. [11:03] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:03] jaskorpe` (jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [11:03] rafu (~rafu@92-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [11:03] vncsnvs (~alberthfm@187.113.5.76) joined ##slackware. [11:04] communicator (~123@bl5-9-110.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:05] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [11:05] well how do I run a full scan on the drive, fsck is just doing a quick check [11:05] man fsck didnt help me [11:05] KaMii: checks the filesystem, not the drive [11:06] GArik_ (~wesnoth@95-29-237-31.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:06] oh, i want to check the drive for errors [11:06] like, bootup does after 20 boots or 180 days [11:06] but i forget what it runs [11:06] there are several ways, some destructive, some non-descructive [11:07] yay! here's what i found for voice chat on gtalk :) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/testing-required-for-google-talk-plugins-827528/ [11:07] dd'ing _from_ the drive works quite well in practice (read dmesg for errors) [11:07] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:07] badblocks(8) [11:08] once you unmount the partitions from the drive - as noted, "dd if=/dev/ of=/dev/null >/dev/null" and watch for errors [11:08] however, at bootup, fsck(8) is run [11:08] jaskorpe` (jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:09] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Morning everyone [11:11] Axius (~fd@109.97.35.28) joined ##slackware. [11:11] good morning [11:13] So just now I booted and my brightness up/down FN keys are not working. XEV doesn't show a button press at all. They have worked ootb for at least two years now. I manually got the brightness back up by adjust /proc/acpi/UVGA/LCD/brightness. any ideas? [11:13] typically something I don't know because I don't use ext* filesystems >< [11:13] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:13] hiptobecubic: what has changed? [11:14] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:14] j #nardwuald [11:14] i think that HDD is bad [11:15] and its brand new [11:15] well, you tend to have failures at the tail ends of the bell curve [11:15] adrien, i really don't know. I'd like to say nothing, but that doesn't seem true. [11:15] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [11:16] e2fsck isnt what I want? [11:16] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.227.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:16] i think you have to disable the journal to run e2fsck on it [11:17] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:17] it says it checks ext3 and ext4 as well [11:17] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:17] give it a go [11:17] How do I add slack to grub. I've have install slackware on /dev/sda5. [11:18] nano, vim - your choic [11:18] choice [11:19] If I install slackware on /dev/sda5 what will be root (hd0,) number? [11:19] depends if it's grub1 or grub2 I think [11:20] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B119CDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:20] this is why I like lilo, its easier and to me, makes more sense [11:20] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:20] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:20] Axius i believe that would be hd0,4.... but it's been a long time [11:20] amen KaMii [11:20] grub (GNU GRUB 0.97) [11:20] grub1 and grub2 start counting differently [11:21] Axius, http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm [11:21] hd0,4 then [11:21] ok [11:21] I have some classical music CDs. What tool can I use to rip the CD into mp3 files? [11:21] grub just likes to turn something that should be easy, into something not so easy [11:21] kleanchap search SlackBuilds.org for mp3 rip [11:22] theres kaudiocreator in stock Slackware [11:22] kleanchap, not that i know there is something there, that's just what i would do first [11:22] oh but theres no lame [11:23] kleanchap, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/audio/abcde/ [11:23] Isnt' a grub partition number relative to the number of partitions on the drive? [11:23] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:23] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: Bye Bye, See you around the next time [11:24] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:24] IOW, there is no way to answer such a question without knowing what partitions it has. [11:24] juh, starts a absolute 0, doesn't care about actual partition IDs [11:24] *at [11:24] and it doesn't even number partitions it cannot read :) [11:24] hiptobecubic, and sahko, Thanks. I am checking them out now. [11:24] ony readable partitions are considered as boot location [11:25] I dont know what to put kernel /vmlinuz or vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp line? [11:25] I would have thought grub could read email by now [11:25] is /vmlinuz a symlink to a complete kernel image file name ? [11:26] Axius: it's better to use the full filename rather than vmlinuz - vmlinuz is linked to the currently installed kernel, so if you updated your kernel package, vmlinuz will be linked to a different kernel [11:26] ok [11:26] personally, I always keep vmlinuz-huge as a menu option while I'm playing because I know it will boot when I mess up the initrd for vmlinuz-generic :) [11:26] makes a good rescue boot option [11:27] looks like they shipped me a bad HDD [11:27] you can set the symlink as your default boot option - that way, you don't need to edit the config when you upgrade the kernel [11:27] that's about all it's good for [11:28] (wouldn't work with LILO, either :P) [11:28] no - but you always have to remember to rerun lilo whenever the kernel changes or you make changes as well [11:28] alisonken1home: he's using GRUB... [11:28] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:28] if you have sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 >, then sda5 would be hd0,2 I think [11:28] or 0.1 maybe [11:28] rob0: if sda2 was the extended partition holding 5 and 6, mayb enot... [11:28] or *0,1 maybe [11:28] sahko (~grbzks@79.167.231.72) joined ##slackware. [11:28] sahko (~grbzks@79.167.231.72) left irc: Changing host [11:28] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:29] adaptr: ok - grub is a little different than lilo :) [11:29] but if that's dmesg/fdisk output, then the extended partition is not listed, so that would be the GRUB order [11:29] in that notation (dmesg), yes, sda2 is the extended [11:29] rob0: are you sure ? [11:29] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] hum, I don't have logical partitions lying around to check [11:31] I do if you give me a min, some laptop around here.. [11:32] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.29.102) joined ##slackware. [11:33] kleanchap: "cdparanoia -B" will "Extract an entire disc, putting each track in a seperate [wav] file" [11:33] This are my partition:http://paste.pocoo.org/show/258825/ [11:33] Eterm: Error: Unable to load font "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1". Falling back on "fixed" [11:33] oh this is grub2 I guess that might not help [11:33] anyone know what i need 2 fix that ? [11:34] herbz, loading something in ~/.Xdefaults ? [11:34] bash-4.1# slackpkg search font; #Every one is installed [11:34] hm k, but i did a find / -name one the font [11:34] and still could not find, it is idk if the ~/.Xdefaults is going to be of help... [11:34] rob0: this is are my partition : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/258825/ [11:35] sec though, checking ^^ [11:35] Genk1 (~Am1ne@41.137.56.70) joined ##slackware. [11:35] empty [11:35] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.29.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:36] sda5 is hd0,5 in grub2, does grub1 do logical partitions differently? [11:36] hello [11:36] hello Genkl [11:36] Genk1* [11:36] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:37] Fish_Kungfu, Thnx. I did find a ripper called grip (thru sbopkg). I haven't tried it yet. Once I get the mp3 files, is there anyway to merge the mp3 files into one big mp3 file (for the entire CD). [11:37] So sda5 is the third partition Axius, hd0,2 I bet. I don't think it counts the extended partition. TIAS, look it up if I'm wrong. [11:37] Action: thrice` has money on hd0,4 still [11:38] Action: sahko agrees with thrice` [11:38] I only had 2 grubs, and I do recall them using relative numbering, but it has been awhile. [11:38] anyway- what term do you guys use under a X that supports translucent backgrounds? Since Eterm requires random fonts [11:39] herbz, why not specify your own font in ~/.Xdefaults ? [11:39] Axius (~fd@109.97.35.28) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:39] because i tried with just Eterm --font "some font" [11:40] because that is what Eterm --help | grep font [11:40] showed me [11:40] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [11:40] i can try man, but might be wasting my time, u know [11:40] yes, I do - man pages are a huge waste of time [11:41] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [11:41] err lol idk about that 1 [11:41] lol i c [11:41] shit, i write man pages lol ^^ [11:42] e2fsck is printing back a LOT of errors.... guess this drive gets sent back to the store [11:43] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: Bye Bye, See you around the next time [11:43] KaMii: not a good reputation that shop has, if this disk issue comes after the RAM mix-up [11:43] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Fish_Kungfu (~Fish_Kung@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: "When mind control works, you won't know it." [11:44] Axius (~fd@109.97.35.28) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.225.255) joined ##slackware. [11:44] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:45] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:45] http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/Naming-convention.html thrice` wins [11:45] herbz: urxvtd+urxvtc works fine for me [11:45] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [11:47] alienBOB: i agree [11:47] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.33.98) left irc: Changing host [11:47] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [11:47] almost every other block on this disk is bad [11:47] im not even 0.01 % complete and the errors list is alreayd huge [11:48] well at least now I know why things were crashing all the time [11:48] I can boot Slackware with grub. This the file config:http://paste.pocoo.org/show/258836/ [11:49] I can not boot Slackware with grub. This the file config:http://paste.pocoo.org/show/258836/ [11:50] You could have just said that you meant "not"... [11:50] Axius: Is /kernel a valid initrd? [11:50] Axius: make sure your kernel and initrd paths are correct [11:50] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) joined ##slackware. [11:50] relative to the root that you told grub [11:51] 'badblocks: input/output error during test data write, block foo' this error is hardware not filesystem right? [11:51] And grub2 works perfectly fine for me [11:51] NaCl: I dont have initrd I use the huge kernel. [11:52] KaMii: there should also be errors in dmesg(1) output. [11:52] then get rid of the initrd line [11:53] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:54] www.pastebin.ca/1933715 (thats what dmesg prints) [11:54] NaCl: What do you think the "kernel /vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp root=/dev/sda5 ro" is ok or should I change it? [11:55] is the root you told grub /boot? [11:55] because it sure doesn't look like it [11:56] ^^ uhh maybe its without the www. [11:57] NaCl: Is partition where I've installed Slackware. [11:57] ? [11:57] / ? [11:57] Axius: you need to read the grub config docs [11:57] NaCl: It is the partition where I've installed Slackware. [11:57] root? [11:58] A moment of silence, please, in which to remember KaMii's lost drive and data. [11:58] (yes) [11:58] NaCl: yes [11:58] shhhh! [11:58] no data was lost [11:58] d34df00d (~d34df00d@93.175.14.160) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:58] it was a brand new 1TB drive [11:58] then tell the grub config to point to /boot/YOUR_NEW_KERNEL_IMAGE [11:58] Without the initrd [11:58] Action: NaCl has a dead hard drive around here [11:58] wheeeee [12:00] hrm, i never had a bad WD HDD before, they have always been good to me [12:00] YMMV [12:00] KaMii: I just got my first dead drive the other day after three years of use with it [12:00] NaCl: I will try that to see what happens then. The line looks like this now:kernel /vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp boot=/dev/sda5 ro [12:00] I have had drive deaths of every manufacturer, several WDs. [12:01] no [12:01] Axius: /boot/vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp [12:01] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Action: NaCl retracts his spoon [12:02] boot= not a valid boot param, is it? Do you mean root= ? [12:02] piccardTE20 (~j@95.122.37.143) joined ##slackware. [12:03] NaCl: What should I put then? [12:03] vncsnvs (alberthfm@187.113.5.76) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:03] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:03] it's root [12:03] root= [12:04] And set the kernel image to what I specified [12:04] It may have typos [12:04] that should work [12:04] No guarantee, though [12:04] Action: NaCl goes back to looking at flash cards [12:06] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [12:07] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:07] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:09] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:09] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Client Quit [12:10] Axius (~fd@109.97.35.28) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:10] why would the farsight slackbuild pick some random lib and try to get it from /usr/lib/ isntead of /usr/lib64 like everything else? [12:10] what makes you think it is? :) [12:11] /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format [12:11] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [12:12] hum [12:12] hiptobecubic, try http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#multilib [12:13] erik, worth a shot, thakns [12:13] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [12:19] Egon^ (ircuser@cpe-24-164-171-71.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:19] Linux is too mainstream now ,unlike the 1990s, for hardcore geeks to use. [12:19] Ubuntu the gaynnesss rules supreme [12:20] right, all the hardcore geeks use Mac [12:21] ¿ [12:21] is there a way to make the firefox search, use google.com/linux instead of just google? [12:21] and Darwin (the core of MacOSX) is significantly based off FreeBSD and not Linux so BSD has already beaten linux on the desktop front and is superior to linux on the server -- so linux is for losers [12:21] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:21] OpenBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 4.7 puffy-kernel#0 i386 [12:21] w00t [12:21] lol [12:21] you again -.- [12:22] Linux is for bitches and dumb ones at thaat --it it insecure trash [12:22] Egon^ (ircuser@cpe-24-164-171-71.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:22] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [12:22] we know, you tell us every few dyas [12:22] jaskorpe` (jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [12:22] jaskorpe (jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left irc: Quit: Lost [12:23] I really wonder if openBSD's community likes the reputation of beeing full of stupid people or if this guy is alone with his opinion there ._. [12:23] the FBSD's I/O is crappy compared to linux's [12:24] doesn't he copy-paste the same text each time? [12:24] linux forever! [12:24] adrien: yes [12:24] Nick change: jaskorpe` -> jaskorpe [12:24] sounds like a bot [12:24] smells like a bot... [12:24] Roin: I was a long time BSD user (FreeBSD). this idiot is the exception rather than the rule. the BSD people are by and large decent folk. [12:24] sadly, I don't think so :p [12:24] or just a troll =) [12:25] hitest: except Theo de Raadt :-) [12:25] :) [12:25] lol, if he/she/it takes the time to copy paste? .. *sigh* [12:25] pyQ (~pyQ@195.161.85-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] hitest: I just believe you ^^ [12:26] Action: Roin believes in the good within humans [12:26] yeah [12:26] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:26] most people are a decent lot [12:27] except Theo de Raadt :-) [12:27] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:28] I was interested in openbsd at some point, I got fed up with his comments [12:29] is that the openBSD inventor, the guy who bashed the NetBSD devs so much they banned him for the rest of his life from everything related to NetBSD? ._. [12:29] I like FreeBSD a lot, I just like Slackware a hell of a lot more:) [12:30] i've never had a need to try out a bsd [12:30] Roin: not sure of the story but that sounds really playusible [12:30] or, never been motivated enough perhaps [12:31] *BSDs are dying [12:31] linux developers are still developing this mammoot [12:32] thrice`: it is interesting to try BSD. sysinstall, the text-based FreeBSD installer, is very Slack-like. However, I'm done with the BSDs. Linux for me:) [12:32] hitest: I've started to use fBSD again [12:33] :-) [12:33] thumbs, you must use it if you want a robust network stuff :) [12:34] Genk1: I am considering making my router BSD again, yes [12:34] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.187) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:35] http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html [12:36] Note: This article was written back in the year 2000 and is very outdated [12:36] lexszero (lexszero@ns2.openhardware.ru) left ##slackware. [12:36] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.187) joined ##slackware. [12:36] Thank GOD I'm not running Windows 2000, it is horrible! [12:37] adrien, maybe ! [12:38] win 2k is awsome [12:38] It was awesome. [12:39] it's awesome when it's not running in internet :P [12:41] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-76-158.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Axius (~fd@109.97.35.28) joined ##slackware. [12:43] hi [12:44] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:44] Axius, hello! [12:45] pyQ (~pyQ@195.161.85-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:46] jeebus, ext2? Really? [12:46] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.225.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:48] What kernel do I need to use initrd with slack? [12:48] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.187) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:49] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [12:52] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.187) joined ##slackware. [12:53] What kernel do I need to use with initrd on slackware? [12:53] Axius, I believe that you can get away with no initrd on both the generic and huge but I'd suggest using the initrd with huge. [12:54] huge doesn't need an initrd, generic does [12:54] woops had it backwards then [12:54] I want to use a generic kernel with initrd. [12:55] Axius, yep [12:56] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:57] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:57] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:59] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:00] kwikness (1000@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Gatto (~Romeo~@host195-16-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:01] hi guys [13:01] I'm looking to change the default console color when i boot into linux. does anyone know where in the kernel source i could change this? [13:01] you can help me with a regexp? -> http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=4iydi5 [13:01] or awk script [13:02] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:03] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.187) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:03] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:04] mujahid (~mujahid@189.120.128.196) joined ##slackware. [13:05] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:19] How do I add a initrd image to grub to boot slackware? [13:19] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: life(); [13:21] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [13:24] I want to use grub with initrd? What should I add to menu.lst? [13:27] piccardTE20 (~j@95.122.37.143) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:27] This is my menu.lst file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/258880/~ [13:28] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.237) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:28] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:31] Axius (~fd@109.97.35.28) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:32] wyggler2 (mvlewis@pilot.trilug.org) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:35] add the line initrd /initrd.gz [13:35] to menu.lst [13:35] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [13:37] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [13:38] are there any rules one should learn when trouble shooting problems? [13:38] if a problem occurs, what should i first think / do ? [13:38] strash (~strash@vlan-177-sliven-141.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:38] at the momement i think 'IRC' > problem solved. [13:39] hello dudes i have an odd situation [13:39] i have downloaded a tar.gz file ,extracted and then i run i program i trus [13:39] *trust [13:39] ok [13:39] when i change to "su" and enter my pass i cant run it [13:39] why is that ? [13:40] anyone got any idea ? [13:40] how did you trust the software you downloaded? did you check mdsum [13:40] make sure its chmod +x [13:40] well i tested the rpgram under my default user [13:40] execute it with ./name [13:40] when i am loged as "strash" and i ./name [13:40] it runs [13:40] strash: define ' can't run it' [13:41] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:41] when i "su" + pass then ./name - nothing happens [13:41] strash: be more descriptive [13:41] as if i haven`t typed "./name" [13:41] try ./name -v [13:41] ok let me try [13:41] Action: ananke facepalms [13:42] strash: 'nothing happens' is too vague. do you get another prompt? does the prompt hang? what happens? [13:42] "./teamviewer -v" nothing [13:42] again, 'nothing' is useless [13:42] well i get back to bash-4.1# [13:42] maybe it has executed?! [13:42] there. that's NOT nothing [13:42] check ps aux | grep teamviewer [13:42] well it is nothing cause the program doesn`t open [13:43] why do you need to be root to run it anyway? [13:43] strash: we're not interested in existentialistic approach and what you may think it means. we're interested in symptoms, and that's NOT nothing [13:43] root 3755 0.0 0.0 1952 504 pts/4 S+ 20:39 0:00 grep teamviewer [13:43] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [13:43] ananke i`m new in linux [13:43] strash: did you read the man page [13:44] strash: and i'm teaching you how to approach things methodically [13:44] dustybin how a program will run under my regular user but not under root ? [13:44] dustybin: seriously, do you always throw 50 different ideas at a problem and see which one sticks? [13:44] :-S [13:44] Action: dustybin facepalms [13:44] when i`m loged as strash -works ,with root - no program GUI is opened [13:44] how to explain it better [13:45] strash: do you use "su" or "su -" to switch to root? [13:45] it is a GUI program -if the program windows doesn`t open - the program is not working for me [13:45] yes [13:45] i used "su" [13:45] DISPLAY=:0 ? [13:45] strash, maybe he can't access X session try as user xhost + then as root to run it [13:46] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:46] maybe i have to switch the user then log oin as root and then try ? [13:46] i have a program that will need to work for another 3 hours and i shouldn`t stop it [13:46] strash: out of curiosity, why do you want to be root to use it? [13:46] just to check if when i`m root i will be able to run it [13:47] strash: why? [13:47] sometimes people use root [13:47] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [13:47] and also the program is beta [13:47] strash: and sometimes people jump off bridges [13:47] sadly ,yeah they do [13:47] ananke, LOL [13:47] strash: you have not considered sudo its kind of made for these sorts of things.. [13:47] last time i used visudo - i couldn`t start my X from the added user [13:48] i had to delete my old strash [13:48] strash: seeing if it will run as root for no good reason is pointless. unless that software expects superuser privileges, then you shouldn't run it as root [13:48] anake testing a program includes any kind of test you can through to it [13:48] right ? [13:48] strash: not at all [13:48] maybe i have to run something else in root and also to run the program ... [13:49] this is quite a pointless test [13:49] ananke [13:49] when i`m in root i don`t do it for this program [13:49] alberthfmn (~alberthfm@187.113.5.76) joined ##slackware. [13:49] but in the meanwhile i can do something useful with it while i do rest of my root s**t [13:49] strash: i fail to see what you think you'll accomplish by 'testing' it [13:49] strash: are you trying this in an X terminal? [13:50] strash: just do the simple thing then, kill x and start a new xsession as root, and try there [13:50] alienB0B yes -i`m in X ,loged in as strash , then i "su" then the program won`t run ... [13:50] not to mention, you're faced with two different problems. if you're truely trying to test it and see if it will work for root user, simply login as root to X [13:50] meatpuppet sadly i can`t do that until my nmap finishes checking my friend`s PC [13:50] strash: does other graphical apps run from the same term as "su"? like say gqview? [13:51] xeyes ftw! [13:51] meatpuppet -i have never run gqview [13:51] geekanibal (~LoreKnore@187.113.60.25) joined ##slackware. [13:51] strash: use "sudo -s" instead of "su" and then try again [13:51] strash is not in the sudoers file [13:51] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:52] and last time i "visudo" i could`nt run my X [13:52] Well then fix that first [13:52] i could but only under root [13:52] Indeed [13:52] i don`t want to f**k it up again with the X - i haven`t found what caused that [13:52] Nick change: geekanibal -> geekannibal [13:52] It is only removing one character in /etc/sudoers ... [13:53] ok what to do in the "visudo" [13:53] what to remove or ? [13:53] add [13:53] # Uncomment to allow people in group wheel to run all commands [13:53] # %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL [13:54] or use the other example if you do not want to be queried for a pw [13:54] alberthfmn (~alberthfm@187.113.5.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:54] well what to remove ? [13:54] "#" ? [13:54] yar [13:54] just to uncomment [13:54] ok [13:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:55] uncomented the line but still i`m not in the sudoers [13:56] You need to logout and login again [13:56] ah [13:56] so i will test it later [13:56] i have to wait for the nmap to finish [13:56] bernie (~bernie@c-98-237-112-144.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] effects should take effect immediately [13:56] if his user is in wheel group already he doesnt [13:56] so I guess his user isnt in group "wheel" ._. [13:56] Yeah that is #2 to check strash [13:56] i`m not sure if my user is in this group [13:56] so how could he "su" at all without wheel? [13:57] they are unrelated [13:57] I have no clue [13:57] you all confuse me [13:57] wasnt wheel to change users from a user? [13:57] how to check my user `s group ? [13:57] strash: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding&s[]=xauth#x_and_su [13:57] strash: groups [13:57] as strash not as root ._. [13:57] strash: or 'id' [13:58] strash: either way, i still think your approach is bogus. testing whether software will run under superuser account, under the premise that it's 'beta', is pointless [13:59] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [13:59] anake [13:59] it`s all connected [13:59] my "sudo" problem has to be fixed without ruining the work of X [13:59] i have to check wether i can run the program while i do other stuff under root [14:00] strash: sudo configuration doesn't affect your ability to run X [14:00] well "visudo" does [14:00] Mowah (~Mowah@c-7589e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:00] or at least it did [14:00] it doesn't. it's unlikely those two events are connected [14:00] well the only changes i did was the "visudo" [14:01] on the other day i could start the X only as root [14:01] not to mention, you're going about this whole thing backwards. you should be interested in getting to run software under normal account, not superuser [14:01] strash: you can check what groups your user is member of by "cat /etc/group | grep " [14:01] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.184.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:01] well when you are in root do you do only one thing ? [14:01] strash: and then you claimed that you had to remove your user completely. that wouldn't have anything to do with sudo configuration [14:01] meatpuppet thanks [14:01] strash: as a general rule, you should never need to run things as root [14:01] well it fixed the problem [14:02] strash: if removing your user fixed the problem, then it further proves that it wasn't related to sudo config [14:02] well i guess my user is not added to a group [14:02] it shows nothing [14:03] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.144.24) joined ##slackware. [14:03] just do groups then [14:03] "groups" [14:03] and by trying to run all those things as root you're only asking for more problems in the long run [14:03] should list all member groups [14:03] users floppy audio video cdrom scanner [14:03] i guess users [14:04] meatpuppet what to do next ? [14:04] strash: it depends [14:04] Running an nmap GUI as root will be able to do a little more than the non-root user ananke. I think that is what strash is attemptinh [14:04] actually yeah [14:04] alienBOB: he was talking about some other piece of software [14:04] strash: you can modify sudo config to a group your user is presently member of.. [14:04] nmap requires root to do some of the job it has to [14:04] ananke [14:04] i run nmap [14:04] strash: not recommended though. [14:05] and also i want to be able to run the other software [14:05] strash: you just told us you were trying to run 'teamview' [14:05] ananke: he implicitly told you what he was trying [14:05] teamviewer [14:05] nmap + teamviewer simultaniously [14:05] alienBOB: you may have read it that way, i didn't [14:05] while nmap in my case requires root [14:06] strash: you should really teach yourself to use 'sudo' and you would save yourself a whole lot of pain [14:06] well let`s focus on addding or creating a group for the user "strash" [14:06] Action: ananke seconds the sudo approach [14:06] communicator (~123@bl5-9-110.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:06] meatpuppet well , i think i need your help to be able to sudo [14:06] just add this line under "root ALL=(ALL) ALL" [14:06] latemus (~m@72.8.65.180) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:07] "strash ALL=(ALL) ALL" [14:07] this is being add via the "visudo" command ? [14:07] no [14:07] just in /etc/sudoers ? [14:07] yes, use visudo to add that [14:08] strash: yeah, then run your app with "sudo [14:08] ok [14:08] let me try [14:09] Nick change: |CtrlAltCa| -> CtrlAltCa [14:09] well i guess the program doesn`t need root priviliges and while i work with nmap i won`t be able to work with it also [14:09] madbear (~dude@c-6c2ae655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:10] meatpuppet i gues the sudo is working cause it didn`t say i`m not in the sudoers file [14:11] executing commands on irssi using /exec is pretty dam handy [14:11] it saves you getting another terminal up [14:11] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [14:11] meatpuppet how can i check if the sudo is working ? [14:11] sudo cat /etc/shadow [14:12] it opened it without asking for pass [14:12] maybe it`s because i already sudo once [14:12] ? [14:12] yes. sudo caches credentials for a few mins [14:12] should i see my pass string in shadow ? [14:12] strash: you see a one way hash [14:13] i see a hash [14:13] the fact that you see content of /etc/shadow means sudo is working [14:13] Nick change: bernie -> Guest80501 [14:13] ok sudo is fixed [14:13] maybe i can use sudo only for nmap ? [14:13] just sudo nmap ...... [14:13] will it work as root ? [14:14] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [14:14] and what do you think sudo cat /etc/shadow worked as? [14:14] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:15] ananke i don`t speak very good english - what do you mean with your last question [14:15] i opened the shadow as if i`m root (at least i think so) [14:16] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [14:16] strash: you cant do cat /etc/shadow as normal user, thats what ananke meant [14:16] ah [14:16] strash: sudo gives you super user, root like priviliges [14:16] Roin this means "sudo nmap .... " = root "nmap ..." , right ? [14:17] as if i am root but actually i`m not [14:17] well, yeah [14:17] Yup [14:17] so everything works fine [14:17] should do so [14:17] sudo nmap and the teamviewer will work as regular user [14:18] Roin , ananke ,meatpuppet alienB0B thank you all for your help [14:18] I didnt do anything, but you're welcome *g* [14:18] strash: np [14:18] have a nice evening ( unless i come again with some other issue) :) [14:19] i know how frustrating is to explain something simple for you but absolutely new to some body else ... [14:19] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:21] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Quit: Bye Bye, See you around the next time [14:21] ramiroec (be02c611@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.2.198.17) joined ##slackware. [14:22] meatpuppet can you tell me what the CD4,CD5 and CD6 contain (the cd images from the slackware website)? [14:24] strash: been ages since i've used the non-DVD/web images, they source perhaps? [14:24] its typically source code [14:24] maybe [14:25] so is there anything i should install from them ? [14:25] strash: you should only need them if you plan to alter the source [14:25] ahhh [14:25] and packages are updated elsewhere [14:25] i thought it was some extra programs that i may decide to add [14:26] no, its the source for all the programs included [14:26] strash: yeah, i am not 100% on this, this is just based on experience and de-facto more than direct knowledge of slackware [14:26] if i knew that i would`nt burn them to my RW CDs [14:26] You can also use them to update some packages manually [14:26] its documented [14:26] skywise: who has time to read that!!? [14:26] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.23) joined ##slackware. [14:26] *g* [14:26] someone burning cds [14:26] by the way ,is there anything like the "Microsoft Update" that updates the slackware linux ? [14:27] strash, yep, slackpkg. [14:27] strash: did you try windowsupdate.slackware.org ? [14:27] adaptr, oh stop it. [14:27] hur [14:27] why when i run some commands in starsh - they are not found and while i use the root - they are working ? [14:27] strash: slackpkg [14:27] strash: yeah thats how it should be ._. [14:28] because you don't have those commands on your path, strash [14:28] because they are not in your PATH which is norma; [14:28] so i need to sudo to run some of them ? [14:28] noirmal [14:28] strash, that's the permission system in work, that's a good thing. [14:28] strash: slackware doesn't use sudo by default [14:28] just use su - [14:28] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [14:28] strash: I always run slackpkg when Im in runlevel 1 [14:28] su - then root password [14:28] If you are asking that question, you have a lot of reading to do. :( [14:28] sudo = su-pass ? [14:29] -_- [14:29] su - [your stupid password here] [14:29] ramiroec (be02c611@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.2.198.17) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:29] su - hellokittyishawt [14:29] sudo will allow you to run commands but for some you will need specify full path [14:29] ok [14:29] su - hunter2 [14:29] well, you could sudo -s [14:30] that's basically the same thing [14:30] after i run slackpkg -what else to add ? [14:30] Skywise, dammit how did you know my pass? [14:30] strash: just run it, and it will tell you [14:30] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [14:30] just the help is getting out [14:30] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [14:30] maybe "slackpkg something something " [14:31] YES, strash - now go and run it [14:31] rahulrp (~rahul@113.193.149.210) joined ##slackware. [14:31] "slackpkg upgrade-all " = No packages match the pattern for upgrade [14:32] hello everyone [14:32] well he has to edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors first [14:32] strash: have you selected a mirror and synced yet? [14:32] "slackpkg update" = No changes in Changelog.txt between your last update and now [14:32] i think yes [14:32] Do you really want to download all other files (y/N)? [14:33] strash: what version are you running? [14:33] 13.1 i think [14:33] well if i "slackpkg update " -> y - it downloads [14:33] so i guess i set the mirror [14:33] you do a lot of thinking; why don't you *know* these things ? [14:33] maybe no new updates upgrades ,etc are available ? [14:33] have u uncommented some server with slackware-current in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [14:34] 1 [14:34] is uncommented [14:34] all other "#" [14:34] good [14:34] Has anyone managed to build farsight2-0.0.20 from SBo on -current? ./python/Makefile has improper syntax. [14:35] i guess there is nothing new to be installed [14:35] i am trying to run firefox4 on slackware64-current, but i do not get the tabs on top feature, can some1 help me [14:35] do i also need to update the mozilla-gecko engine? [14:36] does anyone here know an Australian slackware mirror that works or is still maintained? [14:38] closest i've got is iinet, but they have not synced since 13.0 [14:38] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [14:39] are the torrents any good in au? [14:39] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:40] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.23) left irc: Quit: Quit Message [14:40] skywise: depends, speed is usually OK, but ping times are crap [14:42] rahulrp (~rahul@113.193.149.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:42] Fish_Kungfu (~Fish_Kung@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Mowah (~Mowah@c-7589e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:44] Fish_Kungfu (~Fish_Kung@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:44] hiptobecubic, I'm the maintainer of farsight2 so if you have a fix/patch etc to make it work on -current can you let me know via email? [14:44] Fish_Kungfu (~yaaic@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] dive, sure, but it's a strange thing that's happening. Looks like an upstream problem with auto-tools. I'm asking about it in #farsight and ##workingset [14:46] Fish_Kungfu (~yaaic@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:47] hmm strange [14:47] is there any manual page for the user commands ? [14:47] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:48] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:48] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-gsrfkosejgqrblva) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:48] strash, what user commands? [14:48] strash, not really, just "man [desired command]". [14:48] Skywise, lol hunter2, I think I got that joke. PEople were going "nope, I only see *****". lol [14:49] what does 'scalability' mean in the computer world? [14:49] dustybin, easy. [14:49] lfjob man [desired command] is quite difficult when i don`t know all the commands in linux ( or at least the most important) [14:49] How large it can expand or how small it can shrink to. [14:49] So just do "help" or google. [14:49] teckan (~teckan@bl17-101-172.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:49] hey guys, i have a second monitor and want to use it as an extendes desktop, i have to use this command "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --auto --right-of VGA-0" under my fluxbox wm. this command works but the fluxbox taskbar changes size to both monitors but i want to have the bar only at the primary desktop [14:49] what package in slackware contains apache server? [14:50] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:50] i cant seem to find it in any of the dirs in slackware64 [14:50] newyork, I'm in NY too. <3 [14:50] newyork: right click on the taskbar and set its size, orientaiton etc [14:50] teckan, check /opt. [14:51] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [14:51] newyork: play with "placement" and width percent [14:51] does slackware have good scalability ? [14:51] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC0BD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:51] n/httpd [14:52] Axius (~fd@92.84.14.50) joined ##slackware. [14:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] morfeokmg (bde33fc1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.227.63.193) joined ##slackware. [14:54] hi! [14:54] i have a question [14:54] gm152, thanks! [14:54] You're welcome, teckan. [14:54] this msg in dmesg | rename device eth0 to eth1 [14:55] its a problem of installation or configuration? [14:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:55] its some udev rule [14:55] but udev rule have rename device of eth2 to SATA1 [14:55] its correct? [14:56] after this rename my HD crash [14:56] eth2 to sata1? that doesnt make any sense [14:56] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [14:56] eth is ethernet [14:57] yes [14:57] eth0 its ethernet [14:57] eth1 its wifi [14:57] and reboot my slack rename device to eth1, eth2 [14:58] and last rename to SATA1 [14:58] why are you renaming things? [14:59] no, i don't rename, its automatic rename [15:00] it's the rarely [15:00] KaMii: why are you trying to provide support for stuff you know little/nothing about? [15:01] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-jfnkptydwmjmlpam) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Axius (~fd@92.84.14.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:01] will be a bug? [15:02] sahko: i was asking questions, but thanks for showing all of us your an asshole [15:02] anytime [15:03] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:04] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:05] WLShafor (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:07] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE860.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] interesting how the person who tells me to shutup doesnt do any help either, not to mention he was WAY out of place attacking me. I grow tired of some of you people in here who have too high of an ego. Grow up! [15:09] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:09] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:10] KaMii: calm down. [15:10] hello,can someone tell me how can i change my keyboard language ( i want to be able to type in both latin and cyrilic) [15:11] I will if people start telling the flamers to calm down also, but it seems everday I get yelled at by one of you egoists, and its always my fault for trying to help people [15:11] this is a help channel? [15:11] dustybin, yes. [15:11] KaMii: pardon me, are you calling me an 'egoist'? [15:11] i guess so [15:11] netrixtardis, yes. [15:11] rafu (~rafu@92-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:11] really? [15:12] can I be an egoist too? [15:12] netrixtardis, sometimes fight break out but yes. [15:12] lfjob how can i change my keyboard language (i want to use it only in the KDE) [15:12] since when did ##slackware become a support channel? [15:12] netrixtardis: long ago [15:12] yarvin (~yarvin@155-197-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:12] link? [15:12] strash, easy, I show you step by step, gimme a sec to open up mine since I have mine set to Japanese and Arabic. [15:12] netrixardis how do you think i found there is a slackware channel in irc.freenode.net as a help chann ? [15:13] the answer is simple : www.slackware.com [15:13] or org [15:13] strash, go to system settings then go to regional & language. [15:13] lfjob hold on [15:13] Add your desired language in locale. [15:13] ok [15:14] well i want to add Bulgarian (Phonetic). How to add this Phonetic option ? [15:14] Axius (~fd@92.82.85.95) joined ##slackware. [15:14] lfjob "Apply" ? [15:14] Yes. [15:14] strash: i don't think the slackware.com mentions any support IRC channels. [15:14] Once you add language you apply or click okay. [15:14] A channel operator would know but 2005 iirc. [15:15] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:15] lfjob i don`t want to display all in bulgarian - i just want to be able to type in Bulgarian [15:15] however, it does give thanks to the slackware IRC channels for the dev cycle. [15:15] netrixtardis, Pat comes in here occasionally, so it is an official channel along with #slackware. [15:15] strash, yep. [15:15] LOL [15:15] right. [15:15] Okay. [15:15] lfjob i got a prompt in my own language -and i want to keep it in english [15:15] It's not official as denoted by the channel's namespace of ##. [15:15] and Santa clause comes down every Christmas. [15:15] wtf? official channel? [15:15] Scim is quite nice for changing keyboard layouts and stuff [15:15] strash, look at lower right and you'll see a flag of your own. [15:16] netrixtardis: it started as a channel for slackware-related discussions but it's pretty obvious that such channels also provide help [15:16] #slackware redirects to here and this is not official anything [15:16] antiwire, you're not helping the case that this is a help channel though. [15:16] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [15:16] and this is officially an unofficial channel (which is why it has two '#') [15:16] adrien: i'm quite aware of this channel. I was around here way before. back when this was OPN. [15:16] lfjob it changed the whole menu- it`s in Bulgarian ( and this is confusing for getting support ) [15:17] it just means this channel is not administrated by the people who own the slackware brand [15:17] netrixtardis: yeah, I know you've been here for longer than I am ;-) [15:17] than I've been* [15:17] there isn't an offical channel [15:17] lfjob how to remove the bulgarian language in the Locale ? [15:17] however, i just find it funny that some people think this is an official channel, or a support channel, or anything close to that. [15:17] Click on it and remove in the same menu strash. [15:17] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] What would you call it? [15:18] lfjob there is no remove option [15:18] an IRC channel. [15:18] strash, in system settings, then language and regional. [15:18] How do I start gpm? [15:18] lfjob i found mylanguage is there but it doesn`t show a button to remove [15:18] pat does come by around new releases, its really not too thrilling [15:18] chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm && /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm start [15:18] lfjob remove is greyed out [15:19] netrixtardis: what do you expect it to be? [15:19] Skywise: yep. I know. [15:19] Cause youd idn't click on your language. Or you have to click on the down arrow after clicking on your language thenyou can remove it. [15:19] lfjob i added english , now i can remove one of them [15:19] netrixtardis: ok, I will try that. [15:19] Yes. [15:19] YOu removed English, funny. [15:19] nah [15:20] it was empty whe i opened it [15:20] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Really? Okay. I might be too used to having other languages in there, regardless now you can remove it. :] [15:20] This channel does offer support to users despite its unofficial status as your #slackware channel does on OFTC. [15:20] i removed it [15:20] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [15:21] lfjob the question is how to add a second keyboard language ( so i can type in other alphabets) without changing my menus or anything else (i don`t want a bulgarian menu) [15:21] Keep English and your language there, and let English be the priority. [15:21] Actually do that in the keyboard layout. [15:21] x) [15:21] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Hold on door. [15:23] lfjob thanks very much -it works perfectly [15:24] i want to thank to everyone who helped me with my silly for you and reasonable for me questions! [15:25] gm152: eh? [15:25] i was just commenting on someone mentioning support channel. [15:25] i don't think there is any support channel. [15:25] netrixtardis: I dont have gpm in /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm. I've installed that pkg. [15:26] people, honestly, people need to get off their high horse when someone isn't really wanting to help people. [15:26] so this chan is for bitching and rage quiting? [15:26] yay! \o/ [15:26] Axius: check to make sure you don't have /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm.new [15:26] wheee [15:26] geekannibal (~LoreKnore@187.113.60.25) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:26] Back. [15:27] morfeokmg (bde33fc1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.227.63.193) left irc: [15:27] strash, okay enjoy. :] [15:27] Installing the package and a nonpresent /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm implies that the package is broken [15:27] Which it isn't [15:28] netrixtardis: I dont have config file either. [15:29] What should I do? [15:31] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [15:31] NaCl: What should I do to make it work then? [15:32] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:32] cotrope (~user@m325636d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] make sure the package is installed [15:33] cotrope (~user@m325636d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:34] NaCl: I've removed the pkg and then installed it again and nothing. [15:34] and there is no /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm or anything similar? [15:34] And that's not a config file, it's an init script [15:35] Action: NaCl suggests that Axius read the slackbook [15:35] NaCl: yes, there is nothing. [15:36] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [15:36] NaCl: What should I do? [15:37] read the slackbook [15:37] I've read it. [15:37] lies! [15:37] you don't act like you do [15:37] *did [15:38] Axius: you did install the gpm package, right? [15:38] And give me the full gpm- [15:39] It should be in /var/log/packages [15:39] The package name, that is [15:39] do a "sh /var/log/setup/setup.mouse" to create rc.gpm [15:39] it's created? [15:39] yeah during installation [15:40] *created*? [15:40] yep it is in 13.0 [15:40] yes [15:40] I thought it would have been chmod +x'd [15:40] it is [15:40] Action: NaCl learned something today [15:40] only if you select it to be [15:40] by setup.mouse [15:40] depends on how you answer the setup questions [15:40] NaCl: gpm-1.20.1-i486-5 [15:40] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:41] mmmm.. do what jailbox said [15:41] lfjob are you here [15:42] when i start my slack i always have to type "pppoe-start" as root ,so i have internet [15:42] can i make this done automatically ? [15:42] strash: add it to /etc/rc.d/rc,local [15:42] strash: add the command to rc.local [15:42] strash: add it to /etc/rc.d/rc.local [15:42] you can probably create an entry in /etc/rc.d/rc.local... [15:42] wow. [15:42] :P [15:42] lol [15:42] how many of us got that idea [15:43] damn i was going to say that too after i got done with the text message i was doing [15:43] so i should just put "pppoe-start" without the quotes? [15:44] jailbox: thank you. [15:44] well , thank you very much [15:44] this will ease me ,not to type pppoe-start all the time [15:47] Hoogin (hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [15:51] Axius (~fd@92.82.85.95) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:54] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:02] hello again- could you tell me where to search for a mozilla firefox plugin directory ? [16:03] spidertux (~spidertux@95.237.176.229) joined ##slackware. [16:05] ~/.mozilla/plugins is not a directory [16:05] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:06] usually its in /usr/lib(or lib64)/firefox-/plugins [16:06] those would be the global ones. [16:06] /usr/lib{,64}/mozilla/plugins [16:06] but putting them in ~/.mozilla/plugins should work for your user [16:06] /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ [16:07] i want to make the flash player work for all users [16:07] ^ thats where i had to put it [16:07] ok let me copy it [16:07] /usr/lib/firefox/ is a symlink to /usr/lib/firefox-/ [16:07] darkwurm (~darkwurm@71-20-34-101.war.clearwire-wmx.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] darkwurm (~darkwurm@71-20-34-101.war.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Changing host [16:07] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [16:07] dive, there are a lot of problems with this build system. Still haven't got it functional. Lots of syntax errors and things. Gotta run now. bbl [16:07] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. 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[16:21] EthanG (~ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) joined ##slackware. [16:21] EthanG (ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) left ##slackware. [16:22] wow [16:22] Nick change: Roin_ -> Roin [16:22] Possible future nick collision: Roin [16:22] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [16:23] AND STAY OUT! [16:23] :) [16:23] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [16:24] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [16:24] man, I love some of the posts on kijiji.ca [16:24] someone's selling a 'gaming hard drive' [16:24] ???? [16:24] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [16:25] http://london.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-computer-accessories-WD-VelociRaptor-300GB-10-000-RPM-GAMING-HARD-DRIVE-W0QQAdIdZ228041575 [16:25] well, yea. [16:25] even WD markets them as gaming drives. [16:26] ml4711 (~morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) got lost in the net-split. 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[16:26] 10K RPM, SATA3g, huge cache [16:26] that's just.. silly [16:26] fast read/write times [16:26] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.210.93.3) joined ##slackware. [16:26] can I buy gaming network cables as well? :) [16:26] sure can =P [16:26] Monster cames them =P [16:26] makes* [16:26] < owned [16:26] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-191.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:26] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:26] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Guest80501 (~bernie@c-98-237-112-144.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] the raptors are damn good performance drives. [16:27] newyork (~newyork@p5DC93E57.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:27] but there is no such thing as a gaming drive. [16:28] the "gaming drive" is really just a marketing gimmick. [16:28] y'think? :) [16:28] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] 16mb cache, SATA2 (3gbs), 10K rpm. [16:29] big_bass (~big_bass@unaffiliated/bigbass/x-81725) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.63.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] 4.2ms/4.7ms read/write seek time [16:30] sustaindated data rate ~120MB/s [16:30] sustained* [16:30] blah blah blah [16:30] the raptors are 2.5 yeah? [16:31] 3.5 [16:31] Nick change: LostMyNick -> DarkHack [16:31] DarkHack (darkhack@just.use.xterm.co.cc) left irc: Changing host [16:31] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [16:32] actually [16:32] looks like a 2.5 mounted on some metal brick for 3.5 [16:32] netrixtardis: sustained, but where on the disk? beginning or end? ;-) [16:33] I have a disk that does 135MB/s at the beginning of the disk and 65MB/s at the end =) [16:33] maharba (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. 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[16:39] http://www.latestpcnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/wd_raptor.jpg [16:40] it looks to be a 3.5 heatsink with a 2.5 drive, but have never touched one of these irl, so i would not know [16:40] Nick change: maharba -> eldragon [16:40] right [16:40] you mean you don't have tons of money to spend? [16:40] or it could be 3.5" drive in a 5.25" heatsink :) [16:41] that it could too :) [16:41] sorry, poking fun at WD tends to be a habit with me [16:41] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [16:41] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Remember Panzer, A dear friend. 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[17:04] tekzilla (~jon@d066204.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:05] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_chrr [17:05] paul424_ (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-191.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] tekzilla (~jon@d129055.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [17:06] Xeliaa (hyaenidae@lain.mystydragon.com) joined ##slackware. [17:07] strash (~strash@vlan-177-sliven-141.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [17:09] does anyone got a problem with his flash player - i have no sound [17:09] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:09] Nick change: paul424_ -> paul424 [17:09] and i used to have before i logged of [17:10] are you sure it's just flash? [17:10] try to re-run alsaconf as root [17:11] flash might have not freed the sound resources [17:11] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:11] WLShafor (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [17:11] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: >_< PEBKAC, ID-10-T clicked the X ^_^ [17:12] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.246.115) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:14] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:15] strash (~strash@vlan-177-sliven-141.comnet.bg) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:15] Nick change: Guest55891 -> fred [17:16] fred (~fred@phoenix.slamd64.com) left irc: Changing host [17:16] fred (~fred@slamd64/fred) joined ##slackware. [17:19] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:21] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:22] hello * [17:22] you can help me with a regexp? -> http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=c81gwu [17:23] you make kitty scared [17:23] LoL [17:26] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [17:29] so basically you want to create a custom searchable index? [17:29] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE860.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:30] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [17:30] rather than parsing the existing index (MANIFEST, in this case), you might try the approach of going through the packages themselves (assuming you have them available) & generating your own index [17:30] big assumption on my part, but.. works for me :) [17:31] alphageek you speak with me? [17:31] yes [17:31] yeah is search web engine [17:31] for my personal use [17:32] from every slack version^^ [17:32] (sorry for my English) [17:32] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] i speak very bad English :S [17:32] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:32] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:33] no problem [17:33] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] thanks^^ [17:35] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] Action: NaCl eyes rc.gpm [17:36] Fish_Kungfu (~yaaic@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:40] noob morning report. CPU remained at full freq scaling, a majority of the time. temps remained near 70c. installed powernowd. set startup at boot in rc.local. powernowd starting but did not performing the same as when the daemon was started from cli. in rc.local changed /usr/sbin/powernowd -s 500000 to echo "/usr/sbin/powernowd" | sh. powernowd working as expected. morning report ends. [17:40] noob morning report addendum. temps now hover arround 48c [17:40] it's 11:37pm, it's night! [17:41] I was hoping no one would notice... You've ruined it adrien [17:41] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:42] it's ok, we're all living in our parents' basement [17:42] ;) [17:42] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [17:43] lol [17:43] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] I would like to understand why I had to do (echo "/usr/sbin/powernowd -s 500000" |sh) in order to get it to work. without the echo and pipe, it was only reading the command without the arguments. Why? [17:48] woh3 (~will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] guess i could have put the whole thing in quotes instead of using echo and pipe. [17:49] mshade (~mshade@pool-74-96-245-58.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:49] ask sahko. he apparently knows the proper way to do everything [17:51] alphageek: haa. My /tmp purge is still in rc.S. in tribute to you alphageek, since its doing it in part there anyway. ;) [17:52] editing rc.S directly is often NotRight [17:53] ...errr... well in the intrest of doing things best, I may need to demolish your memorial alphageek ! [17:53] then you definitely don't want to see my system [17:53] alphageek, why there, and not rc.local_shutdown ? [17:54] here's a scenario where it'll fail. unclean shutdown [17:54] woh3 (will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [17:54] Fish_Kungfu (yaaic@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [17:55] and rc.S wouldn't? [17:55] thrice`: there is a /tmp purge in rc.S, it just wasent as complete as I wanted, so I tweaked it a bit, instead of creating another routine [17:55] the rc.S takes affect at startup I think [17:56] I thought you were trying to do it upon shutdown originally, sorry [17:57] thrice`: either way woudl have been fine for me. alphageek pointed out that the section in rc.S, so i went with that one. [17:59] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.225.114) joined ##slackware. [17:59] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] if my default run level is 4, is there a way to boot to rl 3 at the lilo prompt? [18:01] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [18:01] yep [18:01] http://www.php-editors.com/linuxredhat/s1-grub-runlevels.html [18:02] alphageek: i'm 'a serchin, but cant find how [18:02] just use '