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[00:13] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-230.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:13] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:15] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:18] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-160-2.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] http://xkcd.com/723/ [00:21] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:21] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: quick, recite the pledge of allegiance in binary! [00:23] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:25] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-159.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:25] mancha: Absolutely fscking awesome. [00:26] mancha wins for today. Hands down. [00:26] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-248.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:26] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:28] Honestly, I was in my truck and I started to notice that it was wiggling in a way that it has never wiggled. Before I realized what was going on, the radio started the emergency broadcast letting me know that we were having an earthquake and I heard that broadcast while my truck was still shaking. [00:28] It was rad. [00:29] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: peace [00:29] It went on for about 30 seconds in my area, while I was stopped at a red light. Out of all the earthquakes I've felt, that was the first one that I was in an automobile and stopped so I could feel it. [00:30] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:30] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. 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[00:40] technology is awesome :) [00:41] all of my news comes from irc.. if it's something significant enough, there's probably some talk about it in a chan [00:41] pupit: it wasn't bouncy. It was rocking horizontally; ex. the front passenger corner was moving opposite of the rear driver side [00:41] really odd feeling [00:42] like someone had grabbed the bed and was shaking it back and fourth [00:42] antiwire: 2012 all over :D [00:42] haha [00:43] @_@ [00:45] hey, have you seen in states those people on streets in U.S.A. preaching and yelling about doomsday? like 12 monkeys movie and stuff? [00:46] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-156.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:46] usus12jari (1000@114.56.131.168) joined ##slackware. [00:46] pupit: yeah, that's quality entertainment [00:46] only in videogames [00:47] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:47] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:47] a lot of states have cut funding for helping the mentaly ill so many of them are left to fend for themselves on the streets [00:47] internet is all over of it, but only few videos are on youtube by some guys with phonecams taking video of local people preaching about it [00:47] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-119.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:48] were you there for the northridge quake? [00:48] antiwire: ^^^ [00:48] I was [00:48] fun [00:48] SiegeX: yeah [00:48] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:48] I was in north LA county for that one [00:49] I was in northridge for that one =) [00:49] about 30 miles east of northridge [00:49] that one was violent [00:50] ya, highest ground acceleration in north america to date IIRC [00:50] also reminds me of the one in san francisco in '81 timeframe - just as much fun as northridge [00:50] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-63-131-54-26.pit.onecommunications.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:50] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [00:50] That one that happened during a baseball game at candlestick? [00:51] wasn't that in 86 or 87? [00:51] is that the loma prieta? [00:52] I don't remember, I was too young [00:52] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-160-2.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:53] usus12jari (1000@114.56.131.168) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:53] ya me too [00:53] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:54] i moved from an area with a blind thrust fault to an aera where 3 faults cross: calavaras, hayward and san andreas [00:55] see, you'll either have ocean front property or magnificent mountain views eventually ;) [00:55] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:55] antiwire, loma prieta yes - there was actually several quakes - 81 and 86 [00:55] and californian's will surf to denver [00:55] I remember the 86 [00:56] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:56] omg it took you only 264 seconds to get from home to work! [00:56] in the loma prieta quake, I was stationed at mare island finishing training on combat systems upgrade classes, my next assignment was going to a ship that was providing power/fresh water to terminal island after that quake [00:56] radical! [00:57] heh [00:57] hmmm - verizon must be playing with the house network again [00:57] someone was sweeping in the CO [00:58] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) joined ##slackware. [00:58] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-119.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:00] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [01:00] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-107.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[02:42] 4505 [02:42] ooops - logitech tracman slip and focus-follows-mouse :) [02:45] so what's the the PIN to ? ;) [02:45] *that the [02:45] lol [02:47] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:48] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4219, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-03-26 04:04:08 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:52] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:56] francog (francog@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:56] kitche2 (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:00] bhanson (bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:00] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:00] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:01] trhodes, not a pin - it's the designator of a private server instance, ps4505 I was trying to restart :) [03:01] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-14.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:01] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:01] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:02] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:03] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [03:03] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-226.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:03] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [03:03] Hi folks. [03:03] I want to upgrade wine to the latest version but sbo doesn't offer the latest version, what do you guys think of straying from sbo once and installing from wine source? [03:04] riza, modify the slackbuild and the info file, put in the version you need. [03:04] didja try overriding the VERSION ? [03:04] yeah [03:04] I'll do that then. [03:04] Sec... [03:06] bhanson (bhanson@isafailure.com) joined ##slackware. [03:07] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.60) joined ##slackware. [03:08] Okay uninstalling wine now, then going to modify the slackbuild to get it installing. [03:14] Hm. [03:14] I want to submit this one. [03:15] SUbmit this package I modified to sbo. You guys think I can do that or will I get my ass kicked? D: [03:15] mail the maintainer and ask him. [03:15] maintainer email is in the info file. [03:15] I wonder if Robby is in this room now. [03:16] no, he's asleep [03:16] <:) [03:16] riza, slackbuilds are pretty much only accepted from maintainers - so you want to kick the sb maintainer about it [03:16] Wait, kick the sb maintainer?! [03:16] the slackbuild maintainer for the slackbuild with the issue [03:17] Alrighty, I'll email. [03:18] The new sbo seems to be working. [03:18] 1.1.42 as opposed to 1.1.24 ? [03:19] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [03:19] I mean the install, sec [03:19] . [03:25] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-46.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:26] <:) I think the install is actually going to work. [03:26] This is really cool, I should stop being afraid to experiment. [03:28] Chrysalis (~UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) joined ##slackware. [03:30] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [03:30] like I used to tell my mom - "Unless you take a hammer to the computer, the worst that can happen is you call me and I reinstall" :) [03:31] lol [03:31] alisonken1noc, yeah but.. I have tons of stuff here. I guess that's what backup is for. [03:31] johndee (~id@93-81-142-41.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:31] But still... [03:31] at least a second drive [03:31] guitarman (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:32] Z3d (~Z3d@proxy.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [03:35] Nick change: riza -> risa [03:35] Nick change: risa -> rhisa [03:44] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [03:46] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:49] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [03:53] 09 [03:54] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:56] IT WORKS GUYS. [03:56] <:D My games work now. [03:56] Action: rhisa stabs the air. [03:56] Woohoo! [04:00] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:01] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:03] phoenix^ (~firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: "When music is the weapon, we are all indestructable" [04:04] Z3d (~Z3d@proxy.sbb.rs) left irc: [04:06] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) joined ##slackware. [04:11] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-39-182.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:11] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:12] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-30-97.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:13] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [04:14] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. 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[05:06] usus12jari (1000@114.58.80.158) joined ##slackware. [05:06] Nick change: usus12jari -> Guest85096 [05:06] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:07] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:07] does anyone knows how can I make a new ext3 partition from a bash script on a disk (/dev/sda)? [05:07] Guest85096 (1000@114.58.80.158) left ##slackware. [05:12] /sbin/mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda [05:12] maginot: fdisk for the partition, then mkfs to create the file system. [05:12] which will make an ext3 fs on the whole device. you probably want to partition it first (but you don't have to~ [05:13] MoZes: hi :) [05:13] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [05:13] hi n! [05:13] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) joined ##slackware. [05:13] the idea is that is a background script... so can't go to fdisk prompt, and sda will have to acommodate two partition /dev/sda1 swap and /dev/sda2 ext3, going with fdisk it's easy, I just don't know how to make this directly [05:13] MoZes, ^ [05:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [05:15] maginot: you want to check out sfdisk [05:15] http://www.mybrainhurts.com/blog/2009/01/sfdisk-is-bomb.html [05:15] MoZes, Hmm okay, thanks [05:15] maginot: if you look at line 90 and onwards of http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbimg2disk.sh you'll see how to use fdisk in a script [05:15] And sfdisk is cool too, yes [05:16] anyone knows if I can configure ssh port forwarding in .ssh/config? [05:16] alienBOB, thanks by the tip too if I could just use fdisk would be great since is already on the system =) [05:16] Action: Zordrak wants a gpt aware sfdisk :( [05:17] maginot: I've done this with a "fdisk << EOF" command in a script [05:17] Nick change: jeagoss -> jeagone [05:17] is aaa_elflibs blacklisted by default in slackpkg? [05:18] kenr@ken_noc:/etc/slackpkg$ grep aaa blacklist [05:18] # aaa_elflibs can't be updated. [05:18] aaa_elflibs [05:19] niels_horn, it is a clever solution, I'm just looking at the script that alienBOB gave [05:19] why is that? [05:19] at least on 64-current [05:19] i'm on 32-bit current [05:20] zux1wrk, "grep aaa_elflibs: /var/log/packages/aaa_elflibs*" [05:20] "This package should be not upgraded or reinstalled (it could copy over newer library versions)" [05:20] it's a collection of libs from other packages in one convenient place basically [05:21] and if i do a distro upgrade? then i don't upgrade them too? [05:21] cimenta (~rada@220-244-52-59.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:21] maginot: Just checked it, it's the same idea :) [05:21] afk now... [05:21] Action: Zordrak pokes chess for version update to openttd [05:21] distro upgrade would upgrade the other packages - so aaa_elflibs is not needed to be upgraded [05:21] zux1wrk, ^^^ [05:21] ok, got it [05:22] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [05:22] like I posted earlier - read the slack-desc file for aaa_elflibs - explains it a little easier [05:24] nader (1000@84.241.19.176) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:25] another thing, if a slackbuild fails to compile a package, it should usually give an error and fail to build the package, right? [05:26] depends on the errror [05:26] jeagone (jef@173.172.195.32) left ##slackware ("Buh Bye"). [05:32] init[1] (buffer@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [05:32] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest27396 [05:32] anyway, the buildscript installs an empty package [05:32] the package is x11vnc [05:34] cimenta (rada@220-244-52-59.static.tpgi.com.au) left ##slackware. [05:34] http://pastebin.com/6XhAy7hM [05:35] this is how it looks like [05:36] this build is on a current box, so it might be correct, that it doesn't build, but why does it create an empty package, deletes the previous and installs nothing [05:38] the other thing is, that the same error happens on a slack-13.0 box, there i have a missing xinerama error, but also, the script creates an empty package [05:41] probably have to ping the x11vnc slackbuild maintainer about that issue [05:51] wrote him a mail [05:52] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:53] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. 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[06:39] goj (~goj@p4FE6ECDC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:39] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [06:39] Does anyone have something like an exam for linux? I want to see wha't my knowledge [06:44] Linux+ [06:45] Azeotrope: LPI 101 exam emulation: http://www.linux-praxis.de/lpisim/lpi101sim/index.html [06:45] alienBOB, my i /msg you for a second please? [06:46] Np [06:46] alienBOB: thanks. [06:47] Azeotrope: http://gnosis.cx/publish/programming/exam101.html [06:48] Heh.. all went well.. except (i had to give it a try) i went to change the time from KDE.. and did so successfully, except it took a couple of minutes for the panel itself to show the new time [06:48] Delahunt: did you misunderstand my response? I am not seeing a new dialog [06:49] i guess i did [06:49] np=no problem or not presently? [06:49] time to plunge the take on production.. [06:50] Zordrak, I've noticed that with kde clock - it sometimes takes a little while for the applet to update [06:51] Delahunt: "no problem". That "not presently" has never been used in this channel before to my knowledge. I am spending way too much time on it now. [06:54] i wish luks didnt hurt performance so [06:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:56] damn you mpl/ayer.. dont steal my key bindings [06:57] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:58] fsilva (~fsilva@189.26.11.235.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:58] fsilva (~fsilva@201.86.18.65.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:59] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.91.64) joined ##slackware. [07:00] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:01] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.58.231) joined ##slackware. [07:04] kernel-panic (~kernel-pa@80.10.46.58) joined ##slackware. [07:06] What good manual for learning linux (kinda more advanced than ls and cfdisk) can you suggest? [07:07] start with the slackbook and go from there [07:08] i've read the slackbook [07:08] Azeotrope: also.. stop looking at it as one thing. Learning Linux doesnt mean a lot. I get the feeling you are looking for familiarity with cli (primarily gnu) tools and bash [07:08] i need something more advanced and systemized. I't all a mess in my head [07:09] i have 5 OSes in vbox and i don't even know how TCP/IP works [07:09] Azeotrope: so toy around with that, create a little network and learn along the way [07:09] then I would start looking at the o'reilly books [07:10] Zordrak: well, I am comfortable with cli, but seems i'm self-sufficient... I failed alienBOB's exam [07:10] >.< [07:10] Azeotrope: http://carrier.lizella.net/networking_101.php [07:11] Thank you [07:11] alienBOB: do you have a list of pkgs to blacklist from slackpkg when using kde4.4(.2)? [07:14] Zordrak: ls /var/log/packages/ | grep -E "alien$" | rev | cut -d- -f4- | rev [07:14] ah indeed [07:14] forgot about the tags.. cheers [07:16] alienBOB: did open the manual for consulting prior to giving the command to Zordrak? I'm trying to make an idea if I should know every operand for linux's commands... [07:17] some of the questions in the exam felt strange to me... should you know that amount when there are manpages that can be read? [07:18] maginot (~maginot@pdpc/supporter/active/maginot) left irc: Quit: Work! [07:18] Azeotrope: just try to grasp what happens, you'll figure out soon enough what you can find in the manpages and what not [07:19] sahk0: nice link btw [07:20] Azeotrope: I did not have to look at any manpage to type tlat line fior zordrak [07:21] or the keyboard ^ ;) [07:21] I got a 50% on alienBOB's link :D I feel proud of myself [07:21] though I bet I got every rpm question wrong [07:21] whats the link? [07:22] http://www.linux-praxis.de/lpisim/lpi101sim/index.html [07:22] Azeotrope: http://bashcurescancer.com [07:22] yea, i should learn those too? dpkg or rpm? [07:22] yay.kde sc 4.4.2 installed. Now off to recompile kdebase-workspace [07:22] Azeotrope: planning on working on debian or redhat/centos/mandrake ? [07:23] Azeotrope: they are just packagemanagers, they're not hard to use after you look at the manpages [07:24] well, i don't know. i'm affraid of not knowing much during a job interview [07:24] install a debian vm and toy around with it then [07:24] if you want to learn about dpkg that is [07:25] pprkut: why recompile? [07:25] well, if you're looking for a job maintaining those systems.. [07:26] sahk0: I'm using rworkman's bluez4. kdebase-workspace needs a recompile so I can use kbluetooth [07:26] kernel-panic (~kernel-pa@80.10.46.58) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:26] ah, yes indeed [07:26] usus12jari (1000@114.58.80.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:28] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:34] blackorca (~b@173-142-6-13.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [07:37] win 1 [07:37] lose 2 [07:37] total -1 [07:41] Hoogin (1000@95.209.22.119.bredband.tre.se) joined ##slackware. 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I do purges every few months [07:54] i try... but its hard to be bothered enough [07:54] 19 and cleaning quite often [07:54] Camarade_Tux: I can check when I get in, but I'm pretty sure I was in xterm [07:54] about 10 + bitlbee [07:54] raela: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/moinmoin/FAQ that explains how to change that behaviour of xterm [07:55] sahk0: thanks :) though I prefer rxvt and will be using flux for the most part.. thanks for letting me know [07:55] hi guys o/ [07:56] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-30-97.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:56] ello phrag [07:56] Down to 11 after a prune [07:57] though I also keep a catch window open for hilights [07:57] raela: i really ought to bo doing that [07:57] Hoogin (1000@95.209.22.119.bredband.tre.se) left ##slackware. [07:57] i port all those stuff to /status [07:57] wouldnt hurt to force queries into it too [07:58] Zordrak: it's really nice for when I'm gone for the day and come back to a bunch of them [07:58] I couldn't ever go below 10 [07:58] sahk0: status is too full of FN crap [07:58] queries go to it automatically for me [07:58] sahk0: they'd get lost if I got disconnected from a network, though [07:58] well, lost to spam [07:58] remember how to set it up off the top of yourc head? (My main box is down for upgrades ATM) [07:58] just a single line in the config I think [07:59] oh, more than a single [07:59] will G from links [07:59] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:59] hilights = ( { test = ""; nick = "yes"; word = "yes"; fullword = "yes";}, ); [07:59] though I might want to try fullword = no actually, hrm [08:00] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:00] then in windows, 2 = { name = "hilight"; sticky = "yes"; }; [08:00] or whichever window you want [08:01] I used to have it in 19, but if you fill up before it with queries then close some, it will move from window 19 [08:01] doesnt that always steal space from active window? [08:01] or its a window of its own? [08:02] hrm? with my setup, 2 is its own window that only contains hilights [08:02] channels are from 3 on [08:02] oh ok [08:02] just seen theres also addon scripts available for it [08:03] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-72-221.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:03] it's worked well for me for years.. my only change has been the move from window 19 to window 2 [08:05] need a window 0 [08:05] i cant sacrifice #2 [08:06] why not? [08:06] ive had #rt on #2 for too many years [08:06] maybe ill push #slackbuilds up to 7 and use 6 for msgs [08:06] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:07] well, you can stick it anywhere - just be away if you remove a chan before it, it will shift its position [08:07] 2, 3, 4 & 5 are immutable for me [08:07] so ill shove it in 6 [08:07] unless i can create a win 0.. will check on that [08:09] main box still only up to r... cmon.. hurry up! [08:09] use screen ? [08:09] alisonken1noc: f'whut? [08:09] multiple windows in a terminal [08:10] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [08:10] alisonken1noc: i know what screen is.. but why would i use it for this..? [08:10] for the detach/attach I assume ? [08:10] sounded like you wanted multiple terminals [08:11] tmux! [08:11] alisonken1noc: hilight catch window in irssi [08:11] alisonken1noc: no.. im updating my desktop to -current and KDE SC 4.4.2 from a February -current [08:11] (it keeps your splits once you've detached...) [08:11] Camarade_Tux: handy [08:11] usus12jari (1000@114.56.164.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:12] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:12] i have all the packages mirrored... but installing is taking forever.. mostly thanks to xz and luks [08:12] I would be tempted to use irssi in screen, but I think my internet is too slow :P [08:12] for ssh? :O [08:12] (for sshing in and using irssi remotely [08:12] raela: its the only method i use [08:12] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [08:13] raela: even works on my phone with gprs [08:13] screen is the first command i use when i turn on a machine [08:13] surrounder: I was speed testing at 100-200 kbps last night (as in bits) [08:13] ssh tends to have a second or so lag [08:13] I've been on irssi+screen for quite a long time now [08:13] 2-4x dial-up... youre golden [08:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:14] raela: of course [08:14] Zordrak: no, 10 Mbps cable [08:14] raela: which latency? [08:14] Camarade_Tux: no clue [08:14] raela: shouldn't be a problem at all [08:14] raela: use ping? =) [08:14] my upload is 70 kb/s and I generally have no issues [08:14] surrounder: the lag in typing annoys me [08:14] raela: i mean that 100-200kbps is 2 to 4x dialup speed [08:14] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:14] and btw.. on a slow ass connection, use ssh compression [08:16] -o CompressionLevel=9 [08:16] don't know if it helps that much but I'm using it [08:16] as long as each side can handle it in real time [08:16] Camarade_Tux: looks like about 37 ms average ping to google [08:16] IceW (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:16] ohh, 3% packet loss [08:17] raela: no: latency between your two machines [08:17] IceW (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:17] 3% isnt good.. but is about normal for many people [08:17] have to wait until I get in to my office then [08:17] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:17] I'd call 3% horrible crap actually [08:17] Nick change: IceW -> Guest92166 [08:17] no loss here, about 38 ms average [08:17] Camarade_Tux: indeed... but some people have to suffer it [08:17] raela: well, and start sshd on your home computer ;-) [08:17] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-72-221.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:17] raela: go and kick your provider or arrange a new modem? :P [08:17] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-114-5.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Camarade_Tux: sshd starts on default [08:18] Camarade_Tux: 5 is supercrapawfulbad.. and ive live through a long period of 10 before [08:18] Zordrak: yeah, I know, still horrible =/ [08:18] unless you told it not to when you installed [08:18] Zordrak: ouch [08:18] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.116.33) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:18] surrounder: that was my night last night.. first girl kept telling me to open my internet explorer, tried to get me to reboot when she reset my modem, had me close down anything using the internet.. then really wanted me to reboot to see if that'd magically fix speeds.. [08:18] Camarade_Tux: stupid ISP not knowing what theyre doing and suffering an asshatclusterfsck routing mess [08:18] surrounder: then put me on hold for so long, it dumped me back into the system and the next girl just scheduled a tech to come out [08:19] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:19] of course, a reboot fixes everything :P [08:19] raela: always say "hang on, rebooting", wait 30 seconds, and say it's done (remember: you have a brand new computer) [08:19] Zordrak: I see [08:19] Camarade_Tux: I laughed when the reboot made it go slower [08:19] well, when the next test after reboot was slower [08:20] Camarade_Tux: I used to boot BeOS R5 in about 3 seconds from grub, that'd teach 'em! :P [08:20] Zordrak: I'm pretty lucky here: I'm able to switch to fastpath mode without suffering packet losses: makes my ping drop [08:20] Camarade_Tux: DSL? [08:20] I should tweak my kernels.. bet I could get a good boot time [08:20] Zordrak: yeah, 700 meters [08:20] notKlaatu (klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [08:20] raela: linux boots rediciously slow anyhow [08:20] the other laptop already is decent enough.. 30 seconds maybe? [08:20] surrounder: yeah, these are booting really fast ^^ (haiku is nice too) [08:20] Camarade_Tux: nod.. fastpath is called something different here [08:20] Camarade_Tux: definitly :) love haiku :) [08:21] yeah, I wanted to look it up but don't have the time since I'm typing too much on irc ;-) [08:21] had a stripped down XP install that booted within 8 seconds, also quite nice [08:21] yaxm! [08:21] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [08:21] Camarade_Tux: im on ADSL2 at home with a 3 mile copper length :(.. but i still get better than ADSL upload... at work am on 4mbps laser.. but about to go to 20mbps fibre [08:21] notKlaatu (klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Quit: http://www.blackened.com/blackened/ [08:21] oh, I can ping the lab from here.. durr [08:21] (my own version of stripped-down XPs, that works well, is terribly fast and much nicer) [08:22] Zordrak: 3 mile? :o [08:22] Camarade_Tux: nice! yeah it isn't that hard to get it fast as hell [08:22] and I have 120KB/s upload here: not enough ;p [08:22] that's still quite nice actually [08:22] ok: run sync before umount [08:22] never get past 70 kb/s here :( [08:22] oh, looks like frankie fell asleep.. hrm. maybe they cut off power [08:22] surrounder: yaxm.org/wiki/perf iirc (mabe "perfs") [08:23] Camarade_Tux: yeah it blows... REALLY need FTTC, but fscking BT couldnt give a toss unless you live in a city [08:23] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-114-5.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:23] 3mbps down, 1mbps up.. and thats after tying down the bell wire [08:23] er.. how come I can ssh to an ip, but not ping it [08:23] artveee (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [08:24] raela: because the router is dropping ICMP [08:24] Camarade_Tux: haha that's quite sweet [08:24] Zordrak: I wish I had fiber and there is fiber in the buildings around here but my building isn't equipped [08:24] raela: pretty standard [08:24] so even when you live in a big city... [08:24] ah, okay [08:24] Camarade_Tux: *nod* [08:24] mirmillo (2032@friedman.ivoltaire.org) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:24] mirmillo (2032@friedman.ivoltaire.org) joined ##slackware. [08:24] raela: useless "security": trying to fake being down [08:24] Nick change: xchg_drichme -> xchg [08:24] see nmap btw =) [08:24] Camarade_Tux: I'm surprised they didn't block the ssh port [08:25] took 500s to umount :o [08:25] ssh is supposed to never be blocked ;-) [08:25] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [08:25] school network.. you never know [08:25] school indeed [08:25] yup ;-) [08:25] that's why I still run it @ 443 [08:25] also a breeze to get to my machines [08:26] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-147-220.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:26] looks like my modem won't let me ping it, either, Camarade_Tux. ssh'd over there and tried to ping my ip. how else can I get the latency for you? [08:26] nmap -P0 [08:26] Nick change: Guest92166 -> Gulug [08:27] nothing happening [08:27] ohhh there we go [08:27] =) [08:27] guax (~guax@189.4.99.206) joined ##slackware. [08:27] guax (~guax@189.4.99.206) left irc: Changing host [08:27] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:27] filtered microsoft-ds? man wtf :P [08:28] but, that doesn't seem to be fair for latency.. took 6.99 seconds to scan the lab, but took 22.64 seconds to scan my home [08:29] raela: mtr [08:29] raela: ISPs filter it [08:29] see, without that, you'd have worms propagating through it [08:29] it's netbios: it would be opened on the internet which is the worst idea ever [08:30] worse than running sshd with root logins without a password for it [08:30] heh! [08:30] holly crap: running sync before umounting can be 10 times faster than just umounting :o [08:32] (for those who don't know, I'm currently benchmarking various sets of xfs mount options) [08:35] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] doesn't umount run sync? [08:39] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [08:39] it should [08:42] that's what I thought but somehow it turned out to be much slower (and noisier) [08:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNz_um3ipOA heh [08:42] sahk0: whut is it? [08:42] so I guess it still syncs but not in the same way (don't know how= [08:43] s/=/)/ [08:43] Zordrak: music from 1982 [08:43] its offtopic :O [08:44] s/s\/=\/\)\//s\/=\/\\\)\// [08:45] :P [08:46] depends on the syntax your using ;-) [08:46] s/your/you're/ :p [08:46] Action: Camarade_Tux has to switch between grep, vim, ocaml's Str, ocamllex... [08:46] oh, ugly /o\ [08:46] Im not sure how many places you can expect to get away with an unescaped end-parenthesis [08:47] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [08:47] vim for one [08:48] rly? fnuff [08:48] sed for another :P [08:49] they called my for a job [08:49] and had an phone mini-interview [08:49] the guy asked me what cat and grep do [08:49] and ocaml's Str too ;-) [08:50] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-147-220.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:50] Zordrak: I guess that's because it's a closing paren without any opening one [08:50] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [08:51] wow... /usr/games/random is shite [08:51] question: how fast could you setup an apache webserver with https [08:51] ? [08:52] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-92-124.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:52] Azeotrope: milliseconds? [08:52] time cp /working/config /etc/httpd ... [08:52] Azeotrope: just enable the necessary parts of httpd.conf and restart apache [08:52] haha [08:54] righteous__ (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:56] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [08:57] oh balls.. forgot to get the latest nvidi driver downloaded before dropping to console [08:57] wtf is up with them.. why cant they make a bloody drivir download site you can use in links [08:59] they do have one. its called ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/ [08:59] nvidia.com is awful to visit [08:59] doesnt do version linking tho [09:05] kinell! nvidia provide a vdpau mplayer [09:06] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:07] whats the diff between pkg0 and pkg1? 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[09:28] I ran my benchmark again and had a "bug" in it: it called umount with calling sync first [09:28] turns out it reliabely took several minutes to umount [09:29] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-168.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [09:37] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:41] Acidcore (~IFo@89.203.192.156) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:51] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:54] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [09:54] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Client Quit [09:57] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:57] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-dthttckyclbcncuu) joined ##slackware. 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[10:07] NaCl: I think it's 4 here [10:08] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:08] I'm personally tired of seeing "you got an error: " [10:08] righteous (~righteous@72.95.100.167) joined ##slackware. [10:09] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: l8r [10:09] I'm tired of seeing "Cannot connect to: *.ntp.org", while it works just fine on console :( [10:09] isn't the KDE solution to just say "maybe it'll work in the next version?" :> [10:10] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:10] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-51-40.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:10] thrice`: i stick to "it'll prolly never work, so just decide if KDE is good enough without it" [10:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:11] pprkut: "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 6," [10:11] NaCl: and of course, now that I wanna trigger the bug, everything works just flawlessly :/ [10:11] but yes, messages like that I saw before [10:12] I am sensing that something isn't configured correctly here. [10:12] "My slacky-senses are tingling"? [10:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:13] Nick change: fredoslack -> deca [10:13] Nick change: deca -> fredoslack [10:14] pprkut: that error showed up after three tries [10:14] s/three/four [10:14] > [10:15] hughszg (~hugh@58.33.145.128) joined ##slackware. [10:16] there is a small pic when slackware is booting, but in mine, there are two, they are blurry. how to adjust to make it normal? thanks [10:16] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:16] hughszg: the blur is probably it not using your native LCD resolution [10:16] indeed. [10:16] the "pictures" are tux and there is one for each real or virtual processor core you have [10:16] Zordrak: mine resolution is 1280x800 [10:17] Zordrak: then it's right since i have a intel T5870 [10:17] it is a core duo processor [10:17] hughszg: set vga = 864 in lilo.conf then re-run lilo [10:18] then how to configure the resolution to be 1280x800? [10:18] Zordrak: let me try it out. thanks a ton [10:18] if it fails, try: Linux vga=normal [10:19] theblackerbox (~sammo@188-220-104-114.zone11.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-51-40.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:20] powtrix: thanks. i will now reboot to see if it works. [10:20] hughszg (hugh@58.33.145.128) left ##slackware. [10:20] does no-one have "+ computers around here? [10:20] does no-one have 2+ computers around here? [10:21] (rhetorical) [10:21] mimz (TattooedIn@ip70-173-51-75.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Zordrak: hello [10:22] mimz (TattooedIn@ip70-173-51-75.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [10:22] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:22] Zordrak: check priv window [10:22] mint: i killed it. best to discuss in channel [10:22] ok [10:23] mint: general etiquette to ask before PM too [10:23] i saw your blog post on drbd/heartbeat on slack13 [10:23] indeed [10:23] although its pacemaker not heartbeat.. hb is the deprecated old way of doing it [10:23] was wondering if you had to create and initrd to boot off the 3ware card, and did the installer run fine using the raid.s kernel? [10:24] s/and/an [10:24] mint: i used the huge.s kernel for installation (as always) [10:24] got it [10:24] I've never been able to boot directly into the generic kernel after installing [10:24] does the 3ware card require an initrd image? [10:24] as for booting, i compiled the 3ware-9xxx module into the kernel.. so no initrd is necessary (see my other page about kernel building and initrds for that... i prefer to avoid initrds) [10:25] (after chroot'ing and creating an initrd, of course). [10:25] thrice`: the generic kernel has always fubarred the drive detection [10:25] at least, that was my experience a while back [10:25] but this was when they whole sata/ide module was in limbo [10:26] all is very very well [10:26] so lang as you have the 3ware driver available (whether in-kernel or in an initrd) it will boot off it just fine [10:26] hmmm, i always figured for a scsi/raid card an initrd had to be built outside the kernel [10:26] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:26] ok awesome [10:26] makes life a bit easier [10:26] never been a fan of initrd anyways [10:26] and of course the driver for your filesystem [10:27] yeah, ext3:jbd [10:27] and any other boot-time hardware [10:27] all good and there [10:27] I think booting the huge kernel first creates the /dev/root symlink properly, which doesn't get created during the installer ? [10:27] if you're ineterested, i'm putting together scst and iscsi-scst on slack13 right now [10:27] but it's not the 1.0.x code [10:27] it's the newer 2.0 code whch has support for scsi-3 persistent reservations [10:27] that' [10:27] that's a required feature for vmware shared luns [10:28] i have little to no experince with iSCSI [10:28] you might want to check into it considering the work you've already put in [10:28] any chance you will post your ha.d and drbd configs/scripts on the page as well? [10:28] also, why did you use pacemaker? [10:29] mint: there already are some.. did you have something specific in mind? [10:29] JonnyV (~jonny@190.227.136.39) joined ##slackware. [10:29] mint: i use pacemaker because it deprecates heartbeat [10:29] guessing it was because you're running a bunch of services on the pair of servers [10:29] hmmm, heartbeat is that dead eh [10:29] doh [10:29] yeppors [10:29] did not realize that [10:29] figured it was going to 2.x branch [10:29] i'll have to look into that [10:29] although [10:30] technically pacemaker doesnt deprecate heartbeat, openais & corosync do [10:30] seems like such a bear to get up and running according to your findings [10:30] you CAN use heartbeat underneath pacemaker instead of corosync... but i dont advise it [10:30] i'd rather just throw on heartbeat and be done with it [10:30] mint: it has moved on a little since.. but yes its an asshat [10:30] plus we're only running one resource, iscsi [10:30] hughszg (~hugh@58.33.145.128) joined ##slackware. [10:31] so we don't need a cluster controller for multiple services [10:31] i still run heartbeat [10:31] wish they would put in code to detect failure faster than 1s [10:31] you are free to do as you please.. but i recommend getting familiar with pacemaker... one day youll need to be, now is as good a time as any to start [10:31] i've looked at it and i don't like it [10:32] Zordrak: i used vga = 864 as suggested, but it says it's unavailabe and asked me to select from the available one, but all of them are no bigger than 1024x768 [10:32] Zordrak: will definitely look into, but most likely on centos/debian where there are precompiled packages that dont' need to be mangled to get working [10:32] especially at a time when someone else has done all the hard work :) the pacemaker stack is sitting in the slackbuilds pending queue right now [10:32] i'm not trying to focus my attention on running a cluster [10:32] ah [10:32] the docs are terrible [10:32] Zordrak: thanks again [10:32] hughszg: google around for the right code for your res on yourl card.... 864 works on *many* but not all [10:32] it seems more like they're trying to make money as pacemaker consultants [10:32] np [10:33] ok, the best is that i know how to adjust it. thanks [10:33] heh [10:33] i run it all [10:33] anyone here running zabbix btw? [10:33] Skywise: i think the major problem is lack of staff.. theres very few people working on the core and they are constantly commiting rather than working on documentation [10:34] maybe, but that doesn't help when you're trying to figure things out [10:34] plus they are red hat and suse staff and their only other major concern is debian [10:34] its a wilderness [10:34] Skywise: preaching to the choir... have you seen my post? [10:34] no, i just heard about it earlier [10:35] Tommye (~RASTABUMP@85.21.216.178) joined ##slackware. [10:35] i do go into a bit of detail on the insanity of the organisation and the insanity of the 5 part software stack that until recently didnt even provide proper configure scripts [10:35] make install yachat clean from source: stop in error code 2 http://www.slackware.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=269&p=1667#p1667 come in all. [10:36] but like i said it is a lot better now... i have providid slackbuilds for all 5 parts of the stack.. a little walkthrough on what ive done with it and my configs [10:36] and the PDF manual for pacemaker "Pacemaker Explained" is pretty damn good in comparison to some others [10:36] yeah, i had to write an lsb script for bind [10:36] to me that is teh dumb [10:37] yeah.. thats the cockburger... the reliance on LSB scripts and the use of SUS/RH binaries in the provided OCFs... both of which i deal with in the blog post [10:38] Any body know, what we are do wrong? [10:39] qca_psi missing [10:39] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:40] Zordrak, missing why? becose it not install on my system or It not yet for 64bit kernel? [10:40] my guess is its not installed [10:40] And were I can get It? [10:40] pci-im.org? [10:41] *shrug* [10:44] google not known... [10:44] yuger (~75cf35a9@gateway/web/freenode/x-wqbwegezlwimbamt) joined ##slackware. [10:45] nvision (~nvision@g225060116.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:45] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:47] hi , i ve installed vuze on slackware 13 today , but when i trys to start it ( in terminal ) gives me this error http://pastebin.com/p1FQNutX [10:47] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-40-155.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:47] openssl genrsa has no AES!! what should I use? DES? [10:47] i tried doing " * java -cp swt.jar:swt-pi.jar:Azureus2.jar -Djava.library.path=./ org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main" but this also gives me error [10:47] isn't that similar to ROT13 regarding security? [10:48] yuger: use the slackbuild http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/vuze/ [10:48] or rtorrent [10:48] yeah i used slackbuild [10:49] Zordrak, do you have a link to your post? [10:51] can't you just recompile openssl with the encryption you want? [10:51] help [10:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-133-18.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Skywise: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/ [10:52] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Do any kind of behind the scenes optimizations happen when I build a kernel? I'm experimenting with compiling a new kernel for this older system, but it takes 6 hours! [10:52] Skywise: link on the right under "Pages" [10:52] ron1n: tell me you're running more than one simultaneous job.. [10:52] when i run "java -cp swt.jar:swt-pi.jar:Azureus2.jar -Djava.library.path=./ org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main" it give me this error http://pastebin.com/2Tbydzfz [10:52] I'd like to use my more powerful machine to compile a kernel for my tablet, is that possible? [10:53] ron1n: well.. yeah [10:53] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-40-155.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:53] ron1n: compile it wherever you want [10:53] Skywise: how do i uninstall the actual openssl? or isn't that necessary? [10:53] Zordrak, as per your blog, on this single core 500mhz coppermine tablet, I'm using j3 [10:53] fair enough... the tablet hardware just blows [10:53] compile it on a diff machine [10:54] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:54] Azeotrope, maybe you can supply it as an option to your package tool [10:54] Zordrak, alrighty, I'll grab the sources from a mirror and compile it from my home dir on this ubuntu machine. That should be alright? [10:54] i think you can install the new version over the old if they're built with the same paths and it should be fine [10:54] ubuntu isn't going to seep cancer into my kernel if I do it all in my home dir. [10:55] it's OK; bash cures cancer [10:55] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:56] trhodes, i tought that was the three wolf shirt [10:56] trhodes, I guess thats good. Even my Windows boxen have Cygwin. [10:56] guax, there is no way this shirt cures AIDS. [10:56] uaheuah [10:56] haha [10:57] well, according to free, I gained 2MB of ram using a custom kernel... [10:58] ron1n: how much crap did you remove? [10:58] Before: Mem: total: 244 After: Mem: total: 248 [10:58] make that 8MB of ram [10:58] Zordrak, nothing, I just followed your tutorial. I figured generic is already loads better than Huge [10:58] indeed [10:58] the only thing I did was ignore the SMP bits [10:59] Zordrak: i'm still confused after googling around, still don't have an idea what vga = I should use. i failed when using vga = 864 and normal. [10:59] but you wouldnt expecrt to shave too much off unless you start gutting the kernel config [10:59] Zordrak, no, I agree. I just don't know how I physically gained an extra chip of ram XD [10:59] ron1n: i got a 64bit server down to 42mb at boot.. but that is after a complete evisceration of the kernel config and stopping of ALL boot services that werent necessary [11:00] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [11:00] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:00] If I'm reading this correctly, total is total available correct? [11:00] hughszg: no.. total is total [11:00] Like, total installed [11:00] hughszg: its not an easy thing to get information on [11:00] also a healthy cereal [11:01] mancha, beats the hell out of raisin bran. [11:01] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] ron1n: are you using "free" [11:01] Zordrak: ok, i will probably consult gentoo and arch user guide to see if there is helpful info. thanks anyway. [11:01] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:01] Zordrak, yupp. I'll pastebin my findings. [11:01] then work on the "free" and "used" columns with the -/+ buffers/cache row [11:02] http://pastebin.com/NnCPKUYc [11:02] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:02] ron1n: 244MB available, 40MB used [11:02] I think I know what did it. [11:02] exit [11:02] thats before [11:02] hughszg (~hugh@58.33.145.128) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:02] look at after. 248 available now [11:03] yeah.. 32MB used [11:03] but I think I know where I gained 4MB of available system memory [11:03] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:03] When in highmem support section where you said set it to 64GB if you have over 3.5GB. I don't have a single GB. [11:03] prolly the highmem [11:03] yes [11:03] so I set Highmem support from 4GB to off [11:03] adamk (~adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:03] ron1n: bingo [11:04] wow, so I was missing 4MB of ram. Thanks Hugesmp. [11:04] yuger (~75cf35a9@gateway/web/freenode/x-wqbwegezlwimbamt) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:04] ron1n: obviously not everything suiths everone.. so pat has tried to as best he can to provide the best kernels to fit all situations... [11:05] Trust me, I think I'd be saying the opposite on my quad core [11:05] the beauty being youbasically have a ton of awesome templates from which to customise to your need [11:05] yupp [11:05] Is making a slackbuild for a kernel any more difficult than making one for an application? [11:05] ron1n: use the kernel slackbuild [11:06] ron1n: use pats [11:06] in /source/a [11:06] barby (~barby@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:06] Zordrak, NaCl alrighty, I might package this one and back it up since it works. [11:06] thats the one thing i can never be arsed to do... package kernels [11:06] just no point for me personally [11:07] Zordrak, This machine is so wonky, and a few of my friends have them [11:07] well, Fujitsu ST3500 and ST3400's [11:07] good reasonage [11:08] Their like 50 bucks on ebay now so they're going like hotcakes. [11:08] i just wanna get slack on my Nokia E90 [11:08] alrighty, next step is to grab the latest stable and build off of that [11:08] that would be the nuts- [11:09] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:09] ARMed slack ? [11:09] trhodes, no x86? [11:10] doesnt do enough... needs phone software on top and im not sure how it would deal with the other hardware either [11:10] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:10] if i could even get as far as loading new *ware onto it [11:10] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:10] i've got a slack system that will be running samba, and most of my system administration and scripting of files on the slack system will be done on an xp system with a text editor, like geany; would it be a bad idea to have samba just host everything at "/" and only allow samba access from the xp machine's host? and why? [11:11] righteous, remember Samba/cifs came from the land of redmond. Take it and all of its features with a grain of salt... [11:12] new sploits are coming out ALL the time. [11:12] samba didn't come from redmond [11:12] mancha, the smb protocol did [11:12] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-141-148.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:12] samba didn't [11:12] theF? [11:12] ron1n:: security won't be an issue, but im concerned about performance and reliability to host the share at "/" instead of a smaller directory, that's a big share-- can samba handle hosting an entire system's filesystem like that? [11:13] mancha, your right. But SMB it implements does. [11:13] Zordrak, i like your raid 61, but thats alot of hardware. i use 3 disk raid 1 in an lvm [11:13] righteous, I'm not sure [11:13] lilo: "Fatal: Setup length exceeds 31 maximum; kernel setup will overwrite boot loader" [11:13] Any ideas? [11:13] Skywise: it /is/ a lot.. but the redundancy is untouchable [11:13] yer kernel too big? [11:13] There used to be a way to handle NFS on windows XP though. So thats always an alternative. [11:14] barby (~barby@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:14] Skywise: nearly half the size of generic [11:14] barby (~barby@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:14] ron1n: SFU [11:14] (services for unix) [11:15] oh do you have kernel options? [11:15] Zordrak, yupp thats it. [11:16] adamk (~adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [11:17] one neat thing around the corner is ceph [11:17] any buzz on a windows-side implementation? [11:18] Skywise: something screwy was going on in the copy to /boot [11:18] seems ok now [11:18] barby (barby@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) left ##slackware. [11:19] mancha, petabyte scale storage? [11:19] heh.. i love that.... "grep: /proc/net/wireless: no such file or directory" [11:19] error_developer_ (~barby@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:19] ron1n, yeah the new distributed file system that got linus' seal of approval for 2.6.34 [11:20] oh wow. I'm interested now. I might read up on that. [11:20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceph [11:21] btrfs was supposed to be the latest and greatest filesystem in the kernel, but I'm not hearing much about that lately [11:21] butter's popular among devs [11:22] yeah, it's rolling along fine [11:22] on disk format is now forward compatible (has been since 2.6.31) [11:23] ahhh my desktop is whole again. 50MB used RAM at boot (with all but kdm/kde running) and a pretty little 2.5MB kernel [11:23] ron1n, it'll probably pave the way forward (butter will) [11:24] give it a bit more time to mature... [11:24] oh SHIT. i compiled in nvidiafb.... and it conflicts with the nvidia proprietary driver. im looking at another god damn compile [11:24] hmm alrighty [11:25] now the question is, when is reiserfs finally getting the boot =P [11:25] They've been talking about removing it for ages. 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[11:28] Zordrak, man you are tenacious, if i upgrade ever, it won't be to pacemaker [11:29] Zordrak, but that stuff is just too fragile for me, and i can't risk being hung to dry in a crisis like that [11:29] Skywise: its not simple.. but its not fragile [11:29] Skywise: you need to see the whole picture and see it in action [11:29] in action its VERY good [11:30] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:30] i'm wary of a lot of moving parts [11:30] and drbd-mc even gives you a properly decent java gui for managing your cluster [11:30] i think that even heartbeat is cumbersome [11:30] i can practically do everything with a set of cronjobs [11:30] the glue is the framework.. the RAs are just scripts.. corosync replaces heartbeat and pacemaker does the application level [11:32] but having to wade thru a respository for something that might work [11:32] no formal releases or docs [11:32] and in all i have a 300x better system than i could by from NetApp for £50,000 and the hardware cost me £7k, the software cost me nothing [11:32] Skywise: there are formal releases.. like i said it has moved on a bit since i wrote that [11:32] i just feel like i'd be taking a big risk [11:32] 1.0.8 is good [11:33] i have a really stable environment, its basically a lamp cluster [11:33] the whole tree has branched so theres a completely stable set that only bugfixes are commited to... feature devel is on a new branch [11:33] i don't have heartbeat managing mysql tho, i use their own cluster tools [11:33] yeah.. me too *vomit* [11:33] lol [11:34] yeah, i just believe everything is in sync and leave it at that [11:34] im happiest just doing a daily mysqldump and throwing it on tap [11:34] e [11:34] but its not for all situation [11:34] s [11:35] to be honest, i don't mind manually failing over, its not really that complex [11:35] well thats the line right there [11:35] if you can handle manual failover.. you dont need clustering... if you cant.. then you do [11:35] caixabox_ (~c9354334@gateway/web/freenode/x-phywxcwnrtsrphwb) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:35] all the external resources are on virtual ips, just move it to another machine and fire them up [11:35] i run this place on my own.. having it take care of itsely is a godsend [11:36] i use clustering for redundancy and load leveling [11:36] epoch (~jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:36] thats what pacemaker does for me.. it handles downing everything on one box, moving the virtual ip and upping everything on the other box... even the nfs state is maintained [11:36] righteous, even then, reiser4 will be almost be merged. [11:36] my system is basically active/passive that can do active/active during heavy loads and then revert [11:37] a/a? ocfs2? [11:37] epoch (jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [11:37] oh.. you arent talking about FSes are you.. just clustered services like DB [11:37] yeah [11:38] each server has their own raid and they rsync on their own backbone [11:38] i didn't wanna do nfs [11:38] yupp i have drbd doing that... constant raid1 over a dedicated gig copper x-over [11:41] hd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:41] hd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [11:41] hd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. 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[11:53] i have upgraded to -current and samba, cups and others are all bitching about the lack of libldap-2.4.so.2 [11:54] but.. it doesnt exist on any of my other boxes either [11:54] Zordrak, openldap-client is at which version? [11:54] its funny how ldap is supposed to be lightweight, but its one of the most cumbersome databases i've ever used [11:55] 2.3.43 [11:55] hmm wonder if i blacklisted it for some reason [11:55] checkintg [11:55] -current is 2.4.x (omg!!) [11:55] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [11:55] imagine that ;) [11:55] you're gonna get haxored [11:56] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-141-148.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:56] ?! not blacklisted [11:56] checking mirror [11:57] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-14.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:57] openldap-client is the one damn thing i can't get to compile on my alpha :) [11:58] have you tried from source? [11:58] yup [11:58] dews sumfing scwewy awarnd heor [11:58] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:58] ahah [11:58] error i get: /usr/lib/gcc/alpha-slackware-linux/4.4.3/../../../../alpha-slackware-linux/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/alpha-slackware-linux/4.4.3/../../../libresolv.a(res_debug.o): gp-relative relocation against dynamic symbol __p_rcode_syms [11:59] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] so i used an older binary version for now [11:59] upgrade didnt upgrade openldap because i have the full server not just the client... HOWEVER... install-new didnt catch it either because its in removed_packages [12:00] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:00] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:00] i thought slackware only provided the client/lib stuff? [12:00] it does [12:01] but ive taken out the disable-slapd and disable-slurpd to make an openldap.SlackBuild [12:01] ah [12:01] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) joined ##slackware. [12:01] so you did it to yourself ;-) [12:01] i have a blog post on it :) [12:03] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-210-192.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:04] Kaapa (~Something@bl11-144-130.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:04] just forgot id done it on this machine [12:04] no biggie [12:06] error_developer_ (~barby@nat65.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:07] aw nips [12:07] i forgot about the 30 minutes of tests it runs [12:07] heh [12:07] i ignore those tests [12:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.173.53) joined ##slackware. [12:08] they might make you feel better, but they're no predictor of success or failure [12:08] adamk_ (~adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:09] indeed.. im just noh modding pats any more than to enable slapd/slurpd [12:10] hmmm.. been a while since i saw that one... "ERROR: File '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so' is not a symbolic link" [12:12] error_developer_ (~barby@nat65.mia.three.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:14] phoenix^ (~firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Action: phragmatic is quite literally sick of nagios [12:15] phragmatic: dont make me stab you.. nagios is teh shizzlo [12:15] shizzle dizzle [12:15] yeah it is cool once configured =P [12:16] migrating our nagios servers... would not have minded a fresh install =P [12:16] nagios is what keeps me sane.. if anything happens i get an SMS before anyone else finds out [12:16] ahaha, reminds me... [12:16] config is config.. whatsl not to fresh install? [12:16] guitarman (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] my boss was in the dentist chhair today and i rolled nrpe... got 5 critical pings in the dentist ahaha [12:17] heh [12:17] Zordrak: cause the enviroments were different, and i got rather confused with 100's of hosts =P [12:18] spyfuture (~spyfuture@c93485ed.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:19] PiterPunk: fala mano [12:20] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [12:20] phragmatic: bah [12:20] error_developer_ (~barby@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:20] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:21] what the smeg? [12:22] virtualbox-ose-3.1.4 cant find libcurl [12:23] >.< Jesus H. Christ on a bike, firing pointy snails at frosty the snowman with a frigging blow pipe [12:23] its the lack of libldap (which is still building) [12:25] no libldap... no any-frigging-thing-else [12:27] its like system dependency number 2 right behing libc [12:27] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-179-206.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] which sys? [12:27] buh? [12:27] Zordrak likes to break things and then see how he can piece them back together [12:27] :P [12:27] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:28] Necos: it is the only way to learn [12:28] i wouldnt be here now if i hadnt broken the shit out of windows 3.1/95/98 [12:29] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:30] You used to work for Micrsofot? [12:30] hehehe [12:30] :) [12:30] i almost feel sorry for ya zordrak [12:31] rworkman: any plans for the next sbo update date? [12:31] I remember when I somehow broke windows 3.1 and made the startup screen say "windows for workgroups" and just go berzerk. [12:31] NaCl: that was 3.11 .. [12:31] Off hand, no. I'm finally less busy than I have been for almost two months though, so optimism is warranted. [12:31] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-141-148.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [12:32] rworkman: kk.. just im sat here compiling vbox in the certain knowledge that the next one is in the approved queue :) [12:32] Zordrak: it used to say something else, but one day it just said "windows for workgroups" and nearly imploded [12:32] ah, oka [12:32] NaCl: heh [12:32] that was a long time ago [12:34] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:35] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:38] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:39] rworkman: so i got that udev stuff figured out the other day (if you remember) [12:40] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.134) joined ##slackware. [12:41] super-uber-finger-crossage.. about to reboot into rl4 for the first time since 11am and a complete upgrade [12:43] Zordrak: there's always my github repo ;) [12:44] pprkut: well yeah, but it doesnt *feel* right :) [12:44] hah :) [12:44] plus i get to put pressure on you guys to process the queue.. then maybe my Linux-HA builds will make it through ;) [12:45] Help. The IP address does not get assigned at boot. I have to manually obtain it by using dhclient(8). [12:47] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: LOOKOUT [12:48] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:48] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [12:48] epoch (~jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:59] thats the one.. startssl [13:01] Mel-nix: theres a dhcp section right above the static ip section , if you'd like i can come over and scroll your mouse [13:01] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:03] xsamurai: Oh sorry. I will look at it. [13:06] hahah [13:09] I have a fried that has a 3G Huawei modem from Vodafone with a SIM card and he can connect to the internet. In windows. What can I do make linux work too? [13:10] xsamurai: Still, not of any help. [13:11] Azeotrope: get linux drivers for the Huawei modem.. or get one that works in linux if none are available [13:11] Mel-nix: sorry hand holding is limited to fridays and hot girls , I see neither of those cases being valid at the moment . I suggest you reread the dhcp section until you figure it out. [13:12] error_developer_ (~barby@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:13] Zordrak: how do I update pidgin? It's ok to compile the source over the current install? [13:13] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:13] xsamurai: Sorry, but have you understood my problem? [13:13] both -current and /patches should have the latest version, no? [13:14] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [13:16] thrice`: damn.. i forgot about patches [13:16] considering its a small mozilla itself, probably [13:17] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CC45.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [13:20] what do you mean by a small mozilla? [13:20] every release fixes security problems found in the previous ones [13:22] wisedud2u (~wisedud2u@114.58.243.184) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[13:42] Clio (~Clio@nat-84-16-60-38.extel.sk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:44] nvision (~nvision@g225060116.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:47] credo (~cherchez@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [13:49] xover (~xover@host217-42-84-108.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:50] hi guys, having a little trouble booting to my external disk where i recently recoverd my internal disks OS to. [13:51] it is possible for me to boot from a livecd into my native environment on the external disk. [13:52] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:52] boot n chroot [13:53] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-141-148.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:53] Zordrak, i would like to boot into my actual X environment. [13:55] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:55] boot n chroot n startk [13:55] ahem [13:55] boot n chroot n startx [13:56] what? why would you boot/chroot & start? [13:57] Why not use the instructions provided on the first screen to boot your drive directly? [13:57] that would be the best way. especially since he isn't booting from a slackware cd [13:59] its not letting me startx [13:59] before i removed the SSD from inside the pc I was able to boot to the external using the bootloader on the MBR. [13:59] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [14:00] i am not sure why i can no longer boot with the disk removed as I have some boot cds, but they cant find the external disk. [14:00] if you want to continue doing this, i'd actually install a bootloader on the external drive [14:00] xover: then just hugesmp.s root=/dev/foo [14:00] then you can select to boot from the usb harddrive within your bios [14:00] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:01] i cant do that, im using EFI, doesnt support usb boot as I dont have disk with a GUID. [14:01] blaines (~blaines@c-98-213-119-125.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] mac or ia64? [14:01] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.6.47) joined ##slackware. [14:01] macboo pro [14:01] hey whats up with slackware.com ? :) [14:02] InTel_GB: prices? the sky? [14:02] supermicro 2u [14:02] hd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:02] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:02] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [14:02] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Zordrak: I ask whether it's down, because today I have a problem and with the net [14:03] but now only it can't load [14:03] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com [14:03] its down [14:03] Zordrak, do you know how i can get this disk booted? [14:03] if you cant boot it as the root env for a kernel then chroot is your best shot.. [14:04] its still running from the cd then [14:04] but i dont get why you are doing it... i cant imagine ever chrooting to startx.. only to fix something so i can go back in properly for X [14:04] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-168.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:04] xover: plus the chroot would need a hell of a lot of dev symlinks to really work with X [14:05] Zordrak, my internal disk died, so i coped it to external and then booting to external when i still had itneral disk. Since I removed the disk to have to RMA back to Netherlands I cant book into my environment. [14:05] right [14:06] What I did when i still had the MBR working on the failed disk was i pointed the root to external disk. [14:06] then you need some way around the efi boot issue [14:06] pupit (~p@91.150.106.167) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:07] xover: i think zaltekk had it with reinstalling the bootloader on the ext drive [14:07] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.6.47) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:07] i am pondering how i managed to boot to it from grub before, how are the usb disks detected during the initial bootloader? [14:08] echtts_ (~echtts@201-27-185-226.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:08] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:08] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] try badsector [14:09] wisedud2u: as useful as suggesting he try calling apple support [14:09] psYcker (~psYcker@201.165.77.24) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [14:09] anone know how to set xchat to auto-reply to a specific user in query? [14:09] righteous: 99.9% of us use irssi .. [14:10] question stands? [14:10] it only has one leg... watch it fall over [14:11] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CC45.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:11] Zordrak, once i have the bootloader installed to MBR of external disk, how do i boot to it? [14:13] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:13] check your bios [14:13] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:13] xover: thats apple levels of knowledge i dont have [14:13] wisedud2u: efi [14:13] :) [14:14] any special recomendation on mounting the slackware/isolinux/initrd.img? [14:14] it should mount with no complaint after a gunzip of it [14:14] i cant get my head around how i was able to mount from grub to external by changing the root target. that means it had detected the external disk at bootloader stage! [14:15] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:15] i cpio -idv the initrd, iirc [14:15] (after dzip -d) [14:16] trhodes, that is to me? [14:16] yes [14:17] dzip is a command? not found here [14:17] sorry for the noobness [14:17] whoops, gzip [14:17] :P [14:17] you wanted to loopback mount it ? [14:17] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [14:17] lol [14:17] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CC45.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:17] well, i want to do a custom slackware iso, mount it i assume is the only way to edit its content :P [14:18] it's a cpio archive [14:18] godaddy raising prices again, time to start my own registrar service [14:18] lesser (~lesser@117.136.12.70) left irc: Quit: Bye [14:19] Zordrak, is it not possible for me to tell the live cd to boot into the external disk? [14:19] notKlaatu (~klaatu@host-69-95-133-232.pit.choiceone.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:21] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:21] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [14:21] trhodes, basicaly, extract, edit, archive, gzip, put on isolinux and generate [14:21] ? [14:22] hallo o/ [14:22] guax: yes -- http://wiki.openvz.org/Modifying_initrd_image [14:23] trhodes, thank you. you are a gentleman [14:23] yw :) [14:26] xover (~xover@host217-42-84-108.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:26] where can i find the source for the slackware installation scripts? [14:27] rk4n3 (~rk4n3@71.39.203.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:27] rk4n3 (~rk4n3@71.39.203.106) joined ##slackware. [14:27] the hell... one gendh takes about 30s.. but now is taking nearly 30 minutes [14:28] entropy ? [14:29] the setup tool [14:29] from the initrd image (or the usbimg) [14:30] trhodes: id have thought.. but i generated a shitload for it to use and made little diff [14:30] damnnit.. whats the key shortcut to toggle dri in kde? [14:30] guax: var/lib/setup/setup #is the setup script, iirc [14:30] well.. composite not dri [14:31] trhodes, they just exist in the initrd image? [14:32] s+a+f12 [14:32] ok how to make irssi auto-reply to query on a per-user basis? [14:32] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Quit: http://freenode.net [14:32] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:33] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [14:33] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-179-206.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:34] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:34] lol [14:34] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:34] righteous: perl scriptn [14:35] man oh man. what would i ever do without Zordrak ;) thank you so much lol [14:35] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] righteous: google for irssi scripts theres billions out there and i guarantee one already exists to do what you want [14:35] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:36] could probably port eggdrop scripts also [14:36] i found a bitlbee query [14:36] ill do that one [14:36] and edit it [14:36] well mashugganut [14:36] im not terribly familiar with scripting on irssi [14:36] im out. ttfn [14:36] later Zordrak [14:37] Tommye (~RASTABUMP@85.21.216.178) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:39] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [14:39] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [14:39] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) joined ##slackware. [14:40] guax, var/lib/setup/setup was supposed to be under where you extract the initrd, if that's what you're asking [14:41] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-wqzytzgfjxqxrkbf) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:45] wow.. http://lwn.net/Articles/382216 [14:45] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:45] trhodes, yep. [14:46] that root cert has been makin' some buzz lately [14:46] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:47] phrag, that is my home root cert h4x0r server for stealing facebook accounts from the hot chicks [14:47] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [14:48] rbellamy (~rbellamy@adsl-69-105-233-172.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] guax: GG [14:50] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:51] pizza time! [14:51] i am not sure wht to make of this to be honest...i am reading up now. [14:53] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.212.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:54] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [14:58] ... http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/1/128 [14:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427371.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [14:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427371.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:59] lol @ ang [14:59] sure [15:00] he was kidding right? [15:00] i'm sure he was. it was on april fool's day [15:00] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.34GHz w/ 3072 KB L2 Cache] [15:00] ah, not as funny then =P [15:00] plus his sig is too clever to not be kidding [15:00] i could do that :p [15:00] he solved it though, he chmod'd +w /proc/cpuinfo [15:01] mkisofs running, lets get a dvd and test it =) [15:04] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:04] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F6F01.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:09] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] it worked [15:14] i love slackware [15:14] :D [15:17] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:17] iskren_ (~iskren@vlan-184-velingrad-135.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:21] guax: hooray ! :) [15:22] JonnyV (~jonny@190.227.136.39) left irc: Quit: hay dos palabras en esta vida que te abrirán muchas puertas..... TIRE Y EMPUJE [15:24] rowinggolfer ftw [15:24] wrong channel lol [15:25] ron1n_ (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [15:25] no, that was the right channel my friend. [15:25] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-141-148.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [15:26] every channel is the right channel [15:26] :) [15:26] Action: guitarman listening to Linux Outlaws live [15:27] hey guys, I need my wireless configured on boot, rc.wireless looks like wgere i should be but how does it work and how do I set it up? [15:28] guitarman: .. guitarman like the one from youtube? [15:28] trhodes, now i know everything i need to make my guaxware euahuaeh [15:28] just one question stands, how to make the usbboot.img? [15:29] hmmm agentc0re nope.. althought its inspired by the song called 'guitarman' ... not by bread, the other fellow jerry reed. [15:29] guax, http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [15:29] guitarman: err should have been more clear. s/one/person/ But i guess you probably figured that. :P [15:30] jonathanr (~vcbnxn@88-107-175-204.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:30] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:30] hello, is there any reason why X doesn't read xorg.conf [15:30] slackware 13 default settings [15:31] if I set the option with setxkbmap it works [15:31] (for layout switching) [15:31] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.212.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:32] how do you notice it's not reading it? [15:32] iskren_: read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT on the dvd or any mirror. look for hal [15:32] agentc0re: you play guitar? [15:32] sahk0, I don't have HAL I think (I don't have /usr/local/etc/hal/...) [15:33] iskren_: do you have /etc/hal/ ? [15:34] /etc/hal/fdi/{information,policy,preprobe} <- I have :) [15:35] then do as i said [15:35] ron1n_, i want to create the image, not use it. [15:35] sahk0, I thikn I found it, thanks [15:36] just so you know, Slackware doesnt use /usr/local [15:37] TheGroove (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:37] guax, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/13.0/ [15:38] :D [15:40] so anyone know what is rc.wireless for and how does it work? [15:41] did you read alienBOBs networking article? [15:41] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:41] I've never understood it. seems like the main push is to use rc.inet1.conf [15:42] sahk0, wheres it at? [15:42] i just use wicd ;p [15:42] ron1n_: alienBOBs wiki [15:43] i require networking before X loads and afaik there aren't any console on-screen keyboards for Linux. I'm using a slate. [15:44] guitarman: I do, but i'm not that good. [15:44] otherwise wicd ftw [15:44] righteous (~righteous@72.95.100.167) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:44] pupit (~p@91.150.106.167) joined ##slackware. [15:45] i use wicd even in console [15:46] ron1n_: anything wrong with booting into X? [15:46] sahk0 is using the interface I wrote. ;) [15:46] agentc0re: that makes 2 of us. ;) [15:46] NaCl: much simpler and the wicd tray icon doesnt comply with oxygen [15:47] yeah, that requires an on-screen keyboard to log in -_- [15:47] wicd-curses is better than the gui [15:47] brb [15:50] psYcker (~psYcker@201.165.77.24) joined ##slackware. [15:50] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [15:52] hi duydes, I need a particular ebook, which I cannot find, whatis more the paper version is not avalaible in Poland ..where should I ask ? [15:52] any forums or something ? [15:52] ArTourter_ (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:55] notKlaatu (~klaatu@host-69-95-133-232.pit.choiceone.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:55] guitarman: hahahha. :D How long have you sucked at playing? ;) [15:59] johndee (~id@93-81-142-41.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:59] paul424: look on amazon [16:00] alienBOB: the shipment would cost me more than the book [16:00] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@52.sub-97-199-199.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] ron1n_ (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:02] paul424: amazon sells ebooks too I think [16:02] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [16:03] paul424, what book is it? might it be available in pdf online for free? (if it's a really old book) [16:03] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [16:04] spyfuture (~spyfuture@c93485ed.virtua.com.br) left irc: Quit: spyfuture [16:04] an introduction to xml and web technologies ... the version from 2003 is free but come on... the web has evolved since that time ....... [16:04] <_slax0r_> doesn't seem like it has [16:04] not as much as you might think heh [16:06] paul24 the onen by Moller and Schwartzbach? [16:06] NyteOwl: yeap :) [16:06] latest version is 2006 so ... [16:07] http://www.e-booksdirectory.com/details.php?ebook=2183 [16:07] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:07] so-so :P pirating wouldn'y be much harm :P [16:07] it's a free download apparently [16:07] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CC45.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:10] NyteOwl: yeah but 2003 :P. [16:10] 2006 [16:10] agentc0re: hmm well, i guess i don't suck, but i don't live up to the guitarman handle. ;) i have been playing since i was 14 - so thats 19 years ... holy cow [16:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:10] paul424: I'm beginning to think that you haven't been on the web very long. [16:10] that was the alst edition. web hasn't changed that much except for buzz words and hype [16:10] http://www.brics.dk/ixwt/ [16:11] you can download the pdf slides :) [16:11] The difference between 2003 and now isn't very big as compared to the difference between 2000 and 2003. [16:14] guitarman: holy shit. ya, i'd say that you don't suck. :P I loved the gitaroo man game, never heard of guitarman though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitaroo_Man :D [16:14] gitaroo man is epic lol [16:15] lol it looks fun [16:15] cheesy [16:15] it is! [16:16] anyway, lunchtime! [16:16] enjoy Necos [16:17] guitarman: it's a fun game. it's very cheesy but super hard. [16:18] In case anybody is interested I installed GSB gnome on two of my slackware boxes and it is working flawlessly so far. Although I had to reinstall icon-themes other than that flawless [16:18] adrenaline: i've tried it before - they do a nice job [16:19] notKlaatu (~klaatu@host-69-95-133-232.pit.choiceone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Was a lot more simple that dropline I found. [16:19] i went to xfce though in the end. [16:19] they changed a fair amount of the libs from what i recall so it made me a little uncomfortable [16:19] that said it did work fine [16:19] The problem I have with xfce is my slackware is in a virtual box adn cut and paste didn't work for me outside fo the box in xfce [16:19] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [16:20] M1ck3y (~jon@public-70-191.emich.edu) joined ##slackware. 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[16:23] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:24] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: need to catch the bus :) later all [16:24] I really don't understand it because I do everything out of the slack box except corporate email and they always cry about being save and virus free. What better way of being virus free than allowing me to run Linux [16:24] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:24] phoenix^ (~firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:24] s/safe/save [16:24] you should remind them that only windows has viruses and malware [16:25] M1ck3y (~jon@public-70-191.emich.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:25] They are dumb [16:25] wow firefox is starting to really fail. [16:25] i never thought id say that. [16:25] they started at 3.0 [16:25] which is why i still run 2.x [16:26] On the network I look like a W7 box but in actuality I am a Slack 13 box Kind of fun being underground at work [16:27] adrenaline: heheh thats funny... stealthbox [16:27] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [16:27] What is really hilarious is I am on a NX session with my centos server at home through my VB slackware box on a W7 host [16:27] at work [16:28] lol [16:28] thats a lot of layers [16:28] does it work fine? [16:28] In case you are not familiar NX is kind of like VNC only way faster and really cool [16:28] i like nx [16:28] i had it going on my box for a while [16:28] its good stuff [16:28] and it was easy to get going on slack [16:28] It also uses ssh so it is encrypted and my work can only see it as a ssh session [16:29] it works really good no lag but I do have kick ass internet [16:29] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:30] ron1n_ (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] any idea how I can configure XDM to launch kde passwordlessly? [16:32] marty (~martin@089-101-231232.ntlworld.ie) joined ##slackware. [16:32] hey guys, has anyone had this sort of problem doing a live cd from slax like in this forum [16:33] http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action=view&parentID=4329 [16:33] nvision (~nvision@g225060116.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:34] slax isnt Slackware [16:34] i thought it might invlive the same thing in regards to a live cd [16:35] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:37] its not [16:40] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [16:40] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] big_barry (~barry@212.183.140.100) joined ##slackware. [16:46] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-182.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] ron1n_ (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:50] win 32 [16:51] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:52] adamk (~adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:52] francog (francog@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [16:55] sh0ne (~Unknown@cable-188-2-53-32.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. 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[17:21] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:24] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] big_barry (~barry@212.183.140.100) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:25] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-69-33.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:26] kenobi (~acksyn@200.218.196.12) joined ##slackware. [17:26] hi, once I am logged in with root. how do I change a ulimit from a normal user? I want it because I am getting " -bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable " [17:27] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] kenobi: instead of doing that I would check whats eating up the resources [17:27] xsamurai, a postgresql database using 10GB [17:28] I can't change it [17:28] and I need to login with postgres user [17:28] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-133-18.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:28] I can login (su -) but can't execute commands [17:28] man 5 limits # duno if that helps [17:28] let me see [17:28] man ulimit didnt [17:29] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:29] No entry for limits in section 5 of the manual [17:29] tried to see the man in 3 servers [17:29] kenobi: google has ulimit info [17:30] http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_ulimit.htm [17:30] oh Found [17:30] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [17:30] let me read [17:30] help ulimit [17:30] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:31] also, the manpage for limits is part of shadow [17:31] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [17:31] trhodes, I just want to change the limit of an user y [17:31] i dont know , I wouldnt consider ulimit a solution to an out of memory problem , I would look at either adding additional ram or work on tweaking processes [17:32] xsamurai, it's not out of memory [17:32] look [17:32] total used free shared buffers cached [17:32] Mem: 6099800 6036808 62992 0 579532 2991428 [17:32] -/+ buffers/cache: 2465848 3633952 [17:32] Channel flood from kenobi -- kicking [17:32] Swap: 8152948 84976 8067972 [17:32] kenobi kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:32] kenobi (~acksyn@200.218.196.12) joined ##slackware. [17:32] sorry. [17:32] xsamurai is right, though, those limits are high for a reason [17:32] next time I use pastebin [17:33] xsamurai, could you see? it's not an out of memory problem [17:33] you running su - postgres shouldnt require you to raise the ulimit [17:33] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-133-18.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:34] xsamurai, I can log in using su - postgres. but I when I do the message " fork: blablabla" comes [17:34] and I can't execute anything [17:34] actually some commands like ulimit -a, I can [17:34] does that happen only when doing psql or other postgres related commands [17:34] or with other commands as well ? [17:34] but ls, ps, cat, I can't [17:34] see then you have a problem [17:35] xsamurai, btw, postgresql is running fine [17:35] sure I do hehe [17:35] let me post the result of ulimit -a [17:35] paste * [17:35] whats your shmmax set at ? [17:36] hi all [17:36] xsamurai: http://pastebin.com/BYwsPjDv [17:37] just upgraded to -current and sound stopped working, ran # alsaconf and all seems to be well, any hints? [17:37] very high: kernel.shmmax = 68719476736 [17:37] what version of slackware are you running ? [17:37] slackwre64-current [17:38] me? slackware 13. It's a custom value [17:38] your max user processes is way low [17:38] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:39] yes, I want to change it [17:39] may be why you can't fork() [17:39] probably [17:39] help ulimit [17:39] ulimit -u # in bash [17:39] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] trhodes, but how do I define to the user postgres ? [17:40] if I ulimit -u 10, for example, I will change it to root [17:40] ulimit -u unlimited [17:40] running as postgres? can postgres change it for himself ? [17:40] dont I need to be root ? [17:40] i can change my own [17:40] strange. [17:40] let me try [17:40] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.181) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:41] it's not strange for a shell to define its own limits [17:41] janemba (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] setting ulimit -u unlimited, didnt changed all the limits I saw in ulimit -a [17:42] xsamurai, trhodes, what limit should I change, based in: http://pastebin.com/BYwsPjDv ? [17:42] did you get "operation not permitted" when you tried ? [17:43] no [17:43] set it to 0 then reset it [17:43] it? what limit? [17:43] ulimit -u 0 ? [17:43] blaines (~blaines@c-98-213-119-125.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:43] It's a production server I can't stop it, hehe [17:43] I am trying in a test lab first [17:43] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427371.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:44] you sure that shmmax # is right [17:44] based on the url, what limit should I change do test if I can execute commands ? [17:44] it comes pretty high when you convert it to gigs [17:44] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431470.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:44] the shmmax ist that I sent you: kernel.shmmax = 68719476736 [17:45] cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax [17:46] one sec [17:47] converts to 64 gigs [17:47] 68719476736 [17:47] 68.719.476.736 [17:47] im assuming you dont have 64 gigs on your server [17:47] yes, it's 64 bits [17:48] gigs [17:48] I dont know what you mean by gigs [17:48] gigabytes [17:48] if I have 64 GB in my HD, is it ? [17:48] http://docs.hp.com/en/939/KCParms/KCparam.ShMmax.html [17:48] you set your shmmax to a super duper high # [17:49] /dev/sda8 106G 39G 63G 39% /pgsql [17:49] beyond the physical capabilities of your server [17:49] and what got your ulimit process max so low ? [17:49] its a VPS [17:49] I didnt .. [17:49] oh ok [17:49] The Planet DC did [17:49] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:50] what do you think? should I remake the count to my shmmax or change the ulimit? [17:50] i'd reset your shmmax to something realistic and you should be fine [17:50] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [17:51] xsamurai, how much you supose I change? pgsql.conf says 32MB of shared mem [17:51] changing it, will I have to reboot or something? [17:51] kenobi: you have to calculate that according to your pgsql usage [17:51] nope no need to restart [17:51] xsamurai, 10GB of database [17:51] did you modify postgresql.conf ? [17:51] kenobi: thats the data size [17:51] no I didnt [17:51] yes, it's [17:52] how many connections , memory per query etc etc come in to play [17:52] who set the shmmax # ? [17:52] 32 mb is default shmmax size [17:52] so pgsql should run fine on that [17:52] xsamurai, 500 max connection [17:53] 32MB of shared mem [17:53] have you tested what you actually need [17:53] 500 max connection is pretty heavy, do actually need that much or did you just max it out ? [17:53] *do you [17:54] artveee (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:54] so 32.000.000 is good ? [17:54] xsamurai, it was the default [17:54] or maybe 33554432 [17:55] 500 is not deafult [17:55] 300 is default pg connections [17:55] the default in this server was 500.. I didnt change it [17:56] how's you db load ? [17:56] what do you mean? [17:56] server load average ? [17:57] yeah [17:57] very low... 0... 0.5.. [17:58] change the max connection to 300, make sure all the other settings are default [17:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:58] you think I should change shmmax to 33554432 ? [17:58] I can't restart the pgsql server now xsamurai [17:58] i'd wait if you have something running till later on [17:59] no... since they started, I never could log in and run ls,cat,ps, etc [17:59] it's not my server.. it's a new job I took [17:59] hmmmm? [17:59] everything was running this way I told you [17:59] Tabstar (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Ping timeout: 630 seconds [18:00] you have persistent connections to your DB? [18:00] Necos, start reading from the beginning and you will understand [18:00] well you should slap whoever set the shmmax [18:00] sure.. it works fine [18:00] is 33554432 fine, xsamurai ? [18:00] iskren_ (~iskren@vlan-184-velingrad-135.comnet.bg) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431470.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:01] isn't ulimit set to 4096 by default? [18:01] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [18:01] Necos: http://pastebin.com/BYwsPjDv [18:01] from what you've described of your load, it should be fine [18:02] ah, in 13, it's 16k [18:02] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:02] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:03] in 12, it was set at 4096 user processes... why's it set at 20 on this box? (or is that what you're discussing at present?) that's a lot of backlog :D [18:04] he's on a vps [18:04] oh [18:04] that doesn't really explain the low ulimit though :/ [18:04] seems like funky settings all around [18:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431470.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] that's pretty aggressive... maybe they're trying to avoid DDos? [18:05] DDoS, rather... [18:05] are you talking about max user processes , Necos ? [18:05] yeah [18:05] they set shmmax to 64 gigs with 6 gigs of memory [18:06] ddos indeed [18:06] i missed that part xsamurai... i gave up on trying to wade thru all the backlog lol [18:06] maybe the previous admin was like 'fire me will ya' , he left a nice surprise for the next guy [18:06] -bash: ulimit: max user processes: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted [18:07] figure out my l33tness [18:07] how do I change a limit to a specific user from root ? [18:07] I tried ulimit -u 4096 logged as postgres [18:08] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [18:08] i always thought ulimit was system-wide [18:09] might be wrong about that though... [18:09] i haven't figured that out myself :/ can you increase a limit once it's been decreased ? [18:09] in slack, shadow's /etc/limits can cap 'em afaik [18:09] A hard limit cannot be increased once [18:09] it is set; a soft limit may be increased up to the value of the [18:09] hard limit. [18:09] every account can set its own limit [18:10] so how do I increase it? [18:10] you can set system wide ulimits [18:10] find where they were lowered, and restart afaik [18:10] im done for the day [18:10] lates [18:10] later [18:10] thanks xsamurai [18:10] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:10] restart the limited process, that is [18:11] it's a production server.. I cant restart it [18:11] i figured out why IPMI sensors and stuff isn't working... i don't have the optional Asus ASMB4-iKVM module for my mainboard.. that thing provides the baseboard management controller (BMC) that IPMI needs [18:11] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.134) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:11] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:12] ok I will try it later [18:12] i have a Winbond W83667HG-A chip but i think it is behind IPMI and isn't accessible with the optional module! [18:14] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [18:14] canon (~marek@87.52.broadband12.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [18:15] hey guys. can somebody please help me with connecting a Canon EOS 5D to slack 13 64bit? [18:15] canon: mass storage? [18:15] alienBOB, ping, do you know how the usb-and-pxe-installers/usbboot.img is generated? im playing with slackware installation and customization and want to generate it using my modified initrd from isolinux/ but i cant find reference on how it is generated on slackware [18:16] just add yourself to the plugdev group, relogin and should be able to mount with HAL or directly [18:16] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:16] check dmesg when you plug it in for the device name if you have trouble finding it [18:17] adamk (~adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [18:17] i guess so... [18:19] guaxinim (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [18:19] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Disconnected by services [18:19] Nick change: guaxinim -> guax [18:19] :| [18:20] >.> [18:21] fibres (~no@92.27.143.33) joined ##slackware. [18:21] Hi all [18:21] Got a major problem. My slackware server has suddenly gone from 6% disk usage to 100% overnight and I cant find where it is being used. Anyone give me a clue as to how i find out? [18:22] install iotop [18:22] du -sh /* [18:22] then follow the trail [18:22] check dmesg for io errors [18:23] and after that findout how usbboot.img is made then tell me [18:23] =P [18:23] and get me a coffe [18:23] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@52.sub-97-199-199.myvzw.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:23] use 'du --max-depth=1 / ' to follow the trail [18:23] fibres: du -hs *|grep -P '^(\d|,)+(M|G)'|sort -n [18:24] meh =P [18:24] fibres: run this from the root directory [18:24] no io errors in dmesg. [18:24] do you have iotop? [18:24] guax dont think so [18:24] it tells you wich process is using the disk io and what transfer rates [18:25] I dont think anything is using it now. [18:25] guax, what part of the usbboot.img are you having trouble with ? [18:25] trhodes, i want to make a new one [18:25] with my changes on initrd [18:25] Ok du -sh /* i have found that the problem is in /usr [18:25] how do I now search in there to find which dir is in there to follow the trail? [18:26] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.69.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:26] fibres: run from /usr ? [18:26] guax: http://slackware.com/~alien/tools/slackboot/ may give you some clues [18:26] du -sh /usr/* [18:26] and so one and so one [18:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] Thanks. [18:27] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:27] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.71.50) joined ##slackware. [18:28] alienBOB, danke [18:28] ok seems like apache is using all the space. [18:28] Cool Slashdot post [18:28] sorry, wrong window [18:29] in the logs? [18:29] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:29] Yeah I got a 122gig error log [18:29] yow [18:29] marty (~martin@089-101-231232.ntlworld.ie) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:29] fibres, now i understand what you say about 100% of it =| [18:29] tail it [18:29] just to see what the error is then delete it [18:29] Action: guax is just dumb today [18:29] [Tue Apr 06 22:28:29 2010] [error] [client 92.27.143.33] PHP Deprecated: Function eregi() is deprecated in /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/vicidial/AST_timeonVDADall.php on line 1908, referer: http://dialer.jbmarketing.net/vicidial/AST_timeonVDADall.php?RR=40&DB=0&groups[]=test&adastats=&SIPmonitorLINK=&IAXmonitorLINK=&usergroup=&UGdisplay=0&UidORname=1&orderby=timeup&SERVdisplay=0&CALLSdisplay=1&PHONEdisplay=0&CUSTPHONEdisplay=0&with_inbound=Y&monitor_active=&moni [18:29] [Tue Apr 06 22:28:29 2010] [error] [client 92.27.143.33] File does not exist: /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/favicon.ico [18:29] omg [18:30] fibres: formatting please! =P [18:30] vicidial =| [18:30] Nick change: jg71_ -> jg71 [18:30] or pastebin more appropriately [18:30] Sorry phrag [18:30] fibres, php 5.3 right? [18:31] =) [18:31] guax 5.3.1 yeah [18:31] geez, pastebin goddamnit [18:31] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:31] Sorry. Mybad!! [18:32] fibres, you can hand change all of eregi functions by preg ones. but that might take a time. if your log is just full of that deprecated warnings just eliminate them from the php.ini [18:33] you are already using vicidial, one more kludge will kill no one :P [18:33] guax, How you know that? [18:33] :| [18:33] canon (~marek@87.52.broadband12.iol.cz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:33] Ah hint in the error i posted suppose. [18:33] guax, any help on doing what you just suggested? [18:34] well, the php.ini is pretty simple to edit [18:34] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:34] Yeah but what do I need to edit in it? [18:34] well, /vicidial/AST_timeonVDADall.php might be an indicator :) [18:34] if you wanna fix vicidial from the deprecated method, you can replace eregi() for preg_match() [18:34] but you need to encapsulate things in // or ## to make some bounds on the regex [18:34] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:35] That is way above me guax. Leave that to the vicidial developers me things [18:35] =P [18:35] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:35] I am pretty ok with linux generally and good at making things work but im no programmer [18:35] I am a bit concerned that I deleted that file and my disk is still showing as full [18:36] how did you delete it? [18:36] fibres, apache still had the file handle open. [18:36] fibres, Restart apache. [18:36] lostb (~quassel@c213-100-53-180.swipnet.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:36] next time, instead of delete try "echo >...." [18:36] id did rm error_log [18:37] error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_DEPRECATED [18:37] that should do it [18:37] alisonken1home: '> /path/to/file' works too [18:37] alisonken1home, I take it that makes a new blank file? [18:37] vhann: yep - but there's beginners that need some help :) [18:37] ^^ [18:38] fibres: no - it doesn't create a blank file if it already exists, it just replaces the existing content with a newline, effectively zeroing out the existing file [18:39] however, if the file does NOT exist, then it will create one [18:39] what would you suggest for configuring wifi (inet1.conf or wpa_supplicant or wicd ) ? [18:39] wicd [18:39] ok [18:40] Anyone having trouble with the 'intel' driver on Slackware 13.0 ? [18:40] yes [18:40] i did, on my macbook [18:40] vhann, video? [18:40] vhann: theres some alternate versions in extra/ you might wanna try [18:40] you have to revert to an older driver, in /extra [18:40] Oh ok [18:41] I'll check that [18:41] my intel video card is working greatfuly fine with x org and intel driver from current [18:41] yeah i think it's either 1.8.3 now, and you need to revert to 1.6. something like that, vhann [18:41] ? [18:41] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:41] 1.7? [18:41] 2.7 I hope :> [18:41] alisonken1home, damn it, i have slack64 & no multilib yet ... wicd is not supported 'til now [18:42] paissad: I have 64-current with no multilib and wicd works fine [18:42] i ditched the macbook and my long term memory along with it. [18:42] guax: Yeah, my GM96/GL960 keeps hanging the whole X (can't even switch to a tty as even keyboard is unresponsive) [18:42] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [18:42] qt-x (~5924d246@gateway/web/freenode/x-hwsbastrkihszbrr) joined ##slackware. [18:42] ^^ [18:42] wicd is written in python - it's not like it's NOT portable [18:42] ah great [18:42] vhann, i have a 945gm [18:43] why PACKAGES.TXT on cd repeats on the root and slackware/ directory? [18:43] sh0ne (~Unknown@cable-188-2-53-32.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:43] s/cd/dvd/g [18:43] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:43] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left ##slackware. [18:43] guax: Which if I'm not mistaken is even more troublesome than the GM965 right? [18:43] because of the long history when slackware covered multiple floppies [18:44] vhann, was [18:44] now it works great [18:44] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-179-206.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:44] well, it now play videos from xine, or mplayer in dual screen [18:44] it not play* [18:44] ? [18:45] but single screen it does everything. from video to compositing [18:45] won't? [18:45] yeah [18:45] that [18:45] Ok haha :p [18:45] guax, You saying i should make the line that? [18:45] does the ~ make it ignore depriciated warnings? [18:45] fibres, in php.ini [18:45] yeah [18:45] Ok thanks. [18:45] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:45] fibres: that's a binary invert symbol [18:45] it logs E_ALL *and* *not*E_DEPRECATED [18:46] pure magic [18:46] Thanks. [18:46] guax: Ok, so how do I change the driver? By removing the 'intel-gpu-tools' package? [18:47] vhann, you can upgrade to current, but i dont know if you gonna take the risk [18:47] wich is relative small in my opinion [18:48] guax: I'd rather not: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" [18:48] well, your video is broke =P [18:48] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] guax: Yeah, so I'll fix the video, not change the system [18:49] update the driver then, try to compile the newer version on your X [18:49] Anyway, I seem to have found the right package: xf86-video-intel [18:49] but i think lot of changes where made on X that allow it [18:49] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F6F01.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:50] kernel mode switching is also sweet [18:50] guax: I'll try with the old driver [18:50] notKlaatu (~klaatu@host-69-95-133-232.pit.choiceone.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:50] your call [18:51] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:52] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.2) joined ##slackware. [18:53] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Quit: senate/irc:0.1b -- by cyberpunk.. [18:54] phreak (~phreak@pool-71-249-27-200.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [18:56] guax, will this line be fine too? error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE & ~E_DEPRECATED [18:56] artv61 (~user@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] fibres, error_reporting = E_COMPILE_ERROR|E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR|E_ERROR|E_CORE_ERROR [18:57] this one seems to be more what you want [18:57] just errors [18:57] why are you using unary negation like that? it probably will not work as you expect it to [18:58] ok thanks [18:58] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-107-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:59] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:59] is there a way to get vsftpd/proftpd to be happy with unicode file names? [19:00] or even sftp in sshd? [19:01] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:01] phreak (~phreak@pool-71-249-27-200.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:01] im going [19:01] bye you all [19:01] laters guax [19:01] alienBOB, thanks for the link [19:02] trhodes, thanks for all too [19:02] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [19:02] yw [19:03] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:05] And I think I may know why it isn't working... [19:06] nope, that didn't do it. :/ [19:06] phreak (~phreak@pool-71-249-27-200.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] M1ck3y (~jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] blaines (~blaines@c-98-213-119-125.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:15] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[19:51] adamk (~adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:52] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:53] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:56] M1ck3y (jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:59] i tried the simpliest way to get my wifi working ( ifconfig ra0 up && iwconfig ra0 key on && iwconfig ra0 essid "$ESSID" key $KEY && dhclient ra0 ... but i got nothing [20:00] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:03] & when i just do "iwconfig ra0", i essid & key fieds do not change ... weird [20:05] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:05] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [20:16] gesze (~gesze@proxy.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [20:16] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:20] paissad: are you running current? [20:21] sahk0, no [20:21] slack64 13 [20:22] stock kernel? [20:22] macius (~macius@i209-195-86-151.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] i don't know what that is ! [20:23] the 2.6.29.6 kernel that comes with 13.0? [20:23] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:23] yep [20:23] hey im currently using xfce on my slackware system and thinking chaning my default to fluxbox, im incapable of booting it via exec for some reason :S diaply cant open [20:24] dont know then sorry [20:24] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] and i have no idea on how i would change the default de [20:24] no problem :) [20:25] macius: xwmconfig [20:25] error_developer_ (~barby@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:25] lol i was just gonna ask what was the program i seen on the slack installer.. you read my mind gm152 ty [20:26] Nick change: gesze -> windows_xp_user [20:26] yw. [20:26] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:27] macius (~macius@i209-195-86-151.cia.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:27] Nick change: windows_xp_user -> msdos [20:27] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Nick change: msdos -> Guest85701 [20:28] nick Guest273961564561 [20:28] Nick change: Guest85701 -> Guest27396156456 [20:28] anyone using a tiling wm here? [20:28] whats that??? [20:28] i like 'em but no [20:29] i will probably use xmonad when I get around to it [20:29] english plz [20:29] i was looking at awesome [20:30] notKlaatu (~klaatu@host-69-95-133-232.pit.choiceone.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] the name says it all :) [20:30] lol [20:30] yeah, but it's a hassle to get it running under slack [20:30] @_@ [20:30] xmonad would be much easier [20:31] macius (~macius@i209-195-86-151.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:31] i'm actually familiar with lua because of having used ion2 [20:31] sudo mudo wudo [20:31] hm i change the window manager to fluxbox via xmwconfig restarted X and im back with xfce :S [20:32] it's probably easier to configure than anything haskell based [20:32] Nick change: Guest27396156456 -> Y0Z [20:32] ive been using fluxbox forever now [20:32] i love it lol [20:34] i love win95 [20:34] macius: ls -l /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc # that still points at xinitrc.xfce ? [20:35] if you want to set it system wide, then that symlink is all that needs to change [20:36] alright ty [20:37] running xwmconfig as root should change it most easily [20:37] so just remove that and create a symbolic link to xinitrc.fluxbox? [20:37] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] yeah i tried it again and its still pointing to xfce :S dunno whats with that [20:37] you home .xinitrc would override the systemwide one [20:37] *your [20:38] Razec (1000@187-27-255-172.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:38] probably the last line is all that would need changed if you want to change it there (just for yourself) [20:41] nepper (~furb@189.31.116.2) joined ##slackware. [20:42] macius (~macius@i209-195-86-151.cia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:44] macius (~macius@i209-195-86-151.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:45] trhodes: what wm are you using yourself [20:45] hm after making an sym link .xinitrc ot flux in my home folder still nothing , although i just realized xinitrc.xfce is also a symbolic link yet the others arent :S [20:45] hehe, KDE for now [20:46] that's fine, the xinitrc,xfce is supposed to he a symlink [20:46] *be [20:47] macius (~macius@i209-195-86-151.cia.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:48] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [20:50] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:51] Chrysalis (~UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [20:51] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. 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[21:12] trhodes: any reason why kde [21:15] i am running slackware64, I don't see any bus options in make menuconfig for ISA or LPC bus... why not? [21:15] hcfd (~fed@host86-164-28-254.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:16] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:16] lw0x15: kde 'cause of work, i don't have time to set up a tiling wm the way I'd like [21:22] tiling itself isn't much of a reason why I like tiling wm's; i want automatic window layouts [21:26] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] trhodes: I think you can rig KDE to something like tiling [21:28] artveee (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] hcfd (~fed@host86-131-165-23.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [21:29] aenima1577g (~aenima157@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:09] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:09] fosforo_1 (~fosforo@187.15.38.88) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Nancy (~NoOneImpo@clgrtnt5-port-6.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] Nick change: Nancy -> Guest58724 [22:11] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.56.97) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:13] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:14] i need some help to configure my network ... i decided to use a new router .., my server local ip address is 192.168.1.2 .. when i enter it in the web browser, i get the famous "It works" from httpd server [22:14] but i cannot ping to google.com [22:14] Guest58724 (~NoOneImpo@clgrtnt5-port-6.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:15] i can access my router configuration by entering 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.11 in the web browser [22:17] when i run dhclient eth0 ... i got 192.168.1.2 from 192.168.1.1(router) [22:17] i really don't know why i just cannot ping to google ... maybe a route problem .. but knowing that i'm not so skilled about networks ^^ [22:17] i think i need help then :) [22:18] ping 209.85.195.105 [22:18] does that work? [22:18] thats google btw [22:19] yeah, that works [22:19] So then it is DNS, what is in your /etc/resolv.conf? [22:19] then its your dns configuration [22:19] search lan [22:19] nameserver 192.168.1.254 [22:20] 192.168.1.254 was the ip of your old router? [22:20] ye [22:20] yes [22:20] change that to nameserver 192.168.1.1 [22:20] and try again [22:20] this time it should work [22:21] no [22:21] i restart inet1 service [22:21] i ran dhclient eth0 again too [22:22] check that same file again [22:22] you shouldnt have restarted anything [22:22] even [22:22] run that ping command again [22:23] i did not restart 1st ( i tried before ) [22:23] then run nslookup www.google.com [22:23] do both work? [22:23] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:24] nachox, nothing works [22:24] not even the ping command? nice :P [22:24] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) joined ##slackware. [22:24] no ;) [22:24] alright, check netstat -rn [22:24] whats your default gw? [22:24] both ping & nslookup to google failed [22:24] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:25] rworkman, congrats mate, ii just noticed the picture and the whale :P [22:25] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-120-111.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] heya,folks [22:26] paissad, so? [22:26] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [22:26] quick hide, a freenode staff member [22:28] it's nachox! he did it! [22:28] Action: nachox hides the drugs behind ananke's server rack [22:29] just leave me a note which one, i'll make sure to secure them. i mean ensure their safety [22:30] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:30] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:30] i have the perfect alibi, they were there for genomic tests. Much better than reisers who just said he had left his wife safely at home [22:30] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:31] doctorZeus (~dok@35.206.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:32] mauul (~mauul@brln-4d0c7db9.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:32] did i miss something ? [22:32] paissad, we missed your answers [22:33] nachox, http://dpaste.com/180287/ [22:33] Action: raela runs genomic tests on nachox [22:33] paissad, so your default gateway is ok [22:34] run traceroute 209.85.195.105 [22:34] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [22:36] hrm [22:36] where'd the 169.254.x.x address come from [22:38] shouldnt prvent him from using google but its a fair question [22:38] Oh I know, just that's an odd IPrange to see in ip route output [22:39] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:40] oh it takes its time :P [22:40] just show ranges of 3 stars, but nothing else yet [22:40] i have this http://dpaste.com/180289/ nachox [22:40] & that continues ... [22:40] but has it has not gone over your default gateway for some reason [22:41] crap, i'll rewrite tht [22:41] it has not gone over your default gateway for some reason [22:41] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.74.228) joined ##slackware. [22:42] can you ping your default gw? [22:42] what does the output of: ip route show [22:42] Dominian, yes i can ping 192.168.1.1 [22:43] it works [22:43] what does the output of ip route show as your default [22:45] Dominian, http://dpaste.com/180290/ [22:45] very interesting [22:45] can you ping: 216.23.240.160 [22:45] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] doctorZeus (dok@35.206.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:46] Dominian, yes i can [22:46] bingo [22:46] paissad: more /etc/resolv.conf [22:47] o_O [22:47] i do have in it: [22:47] nameserver 192.168.1.254 [22:47] heh [22:47] but i did change it to 192.168.1.1 before o_O [22:47] tuvok302Lappy_ (~NoOneImpo@clgrtnt5-port-6.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] doesn't appear it stayed :) [22:48] tuvok302Lappy_ (~NoOneImpo@clgrtnt5-port-6.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:48] & now ? ... [22:49] need to start some service ? [22:49] did you set the IP manually or with dhcp? [22:49] paissad: no [22:49] dhcp [22:49] changes to resolv.conf are instant [22:49] paissad: then something is issuing the wrong DNS server. [22:49] I'd check whatever is handling your DHCP and make sure its issuing the proper DNS entries [22:49] i still cannot ping google [22:50] what does resolv.conf show [22:50] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:50] search lan [22:50] nameserver 192.168.1.1 [22:50] remvoe the 'search lan' [22:51] if 'lan' doesn't exist as an actual DNS name somewhere, the queries will more than likely fail [22:51] that does not change anything too ^^ [22:52] from command line: host google.com [22:52] hi folks, i want to patch the kernel S64 to enable injection for aircrack [22:52] i have and intel 4965 card [22:52] where i can find the source for driver to patch it? [22:53] ovnicraft: no idea [22:53] Dominian, host google.com -> connection timed out *** blablah [22:53] no servers could be reached [22:53] what is 192.168.1.1 your router? [22:53] blabla.com ? [22:53] the connection timed out is to your DNS server [22:53] Dominian, yes the my router [22:53] so does 192.168.1.1 do DNS? [22:53] in theory is the src kernel pkg? but i dont know if the patch works with the version of Slackware [22:54] minor is diferent [22:54] ovnicraft: apply the patch if it works.. done.. if not.. try kernel.org or similar [22:55] yes i am doing that, i come here to know if anyone has done [22:55] Dominian, hmm, .. i dunno [22:55] ovnicraft: probably, but they may not be readily available. [22:57] Grrrr, the nameserver came back to 192.168.1.254 in the resolv.conf ... why ??????? [22:57] grrrr [22:57] dhclient ? [22:57] Whatever is ussing DHCP is changing that [22:58] check your DHCP server and make sure the DNS server being issued is proper [23:00] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Nick change: kenobi -> ack_syn [23:05] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:07] nachox: hehe :-) Someday she'll learn not to taunt me :D [23:11] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:12] vcampos (~vitor@unaffiliated/vcampos) left irc: Quit: bye [23:12] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: peace [23:13] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-160-2.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] BadAtom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) joined ##slackware. [23:25] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:26] rworkman: you still around? [23:27] niels_horn: kinda [23:28] I know, I know; that's nothing short of amazing. I've been *really* scarce lately. [23:28] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] rworkman: just noticed that pango (from l/) depends on (in -current at least) libXft (from x/) [23:28] Y0Z (~gesze@proxy.sbb.rs) left irc: [23:29] that doesn't surprise me [23:29] php depends on libs from x/ [23:29] niels_horn: not surprising; there are a few other things that need X libs [23:29] pango is used to render text :) [23:29] I sometimes install Slackware on headless servers w/o X etc. [23:29] niels_horn: best to list out the requireds so you don't have to hunt them down each time [23:30] thrice`: read the slack-desc though - it clearly implies that it's an X thing [23:30] I know :> [23:30] and if I do, it complains about not finding libXft every boot when running the pango update [23:30] niels_horn: then install libxfc [23:30] niels_horn: yeah, I've run across that too. With php, there are 5 or 6 things needed, and libXft might be one of htem anyway; I don't remember [23:30] er.. xft [23:31] I think I have a list somewhere.. [23:31] well, I could chmod -x /usr/bin/update-pango-querymodules [23:31] Y0Z (~Y0Z@proxy.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [23:31] well I used to [23:32] rc.M checks for the x bit [23:32] niels_horn: there's that. When the php/X issue was brought up back a couple of releases ago, the response was along the lines of "a competent admin will figure it out; anyone else should have done a full install" :) [23:32] it shouldn't need to be run in rc.M anyway in most cases [23:32] I know I have a list somewhere.. [23:32] rworkman: I guess that makes me "competent" then :D [23:33] Dominian: I thought I did too. Every time I have to walk the ldd tree, I say that I'm going to do a blog entry on it. Then I forget. [23:33] niels_horn: yes. :) [23:33] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:33] rworkman: Well i had it in a txt document... [23:33] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-14.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:33] I'm pretty damn sure I wrote it somewhere.. [23:34] Dominian: I have a "notes" directory with lots of small text files :) [23:34] niels_horn: Well, the one I have was specific to php being used on a headless server with no X... it listed the required libs you needed from x/ [23:35] Dominian: if you find it, I'm interested. I usually install PHP on headless servers w/o X and I know there are some libs to install. [23:35] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-168.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:35] But when I have the space, I normally install all of X, just leave out the KDE and xapp dirs [23:37] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-120-111.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:37] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. [23:38] functionoverform (~mranderso@adsl-99-150-197-243.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] so i'm trying to install slackware on another computer.. a windows box currently, and it keeps saying that i can't write on it when i start cfdisk [23:42] functionoverform: specify the device manually (e.g. cfdisk /dev/sda) [23:42] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:44] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [23:46] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-224.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[23:53] here we go, i think i got it, i just typed /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 [23:53] and cfdisk is working normally now [23:53] its all good [23:53] That makes sense. I didn't realize you were trying to partition a partition :) [23:57] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:59] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-18-73.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:59] What is the order of disc partitionning programs based on the quality of partitions? [23:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-224.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:59] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:00] --- Wed Apr 7 2010