[00:00] ivandi (n=ivandi@bas5-quebec14-1128556609.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [00:00] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:00] wb dchmelik :) [00:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [00:01] b0tn3t (n=void@207-118-95-150.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:02] that was funny [00:03] ugh [00:03] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:03] maybe my friends are right [00:03] maybe i do really need a man [00:04] maybe so. :P [00:05] in any case [00:05] im also sick of this so brb [00:05] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] y0 Rat409 [00:08] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:11] b0tn3t (n=void@207-118-95-150.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] heyya fire|bird [00:12] webbi (n=webi@190.247.201.22) joined ##slackware. [00:12] hello people! [00:12] sorry got called downstairs for a few [00:12] Rat409: how's it going? [00:13] good thanks,and you?,still building kde4? [00:13] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:13] are you making up kde4? [00:13] Rat409: doing great, thanks. Yeah, still working on building it and waiting for my laptop hdd to finish being imaged. [00:13] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:13] dchmelik: attempting to build kde 4.3 yeah. [00:14] so you are on the dev team? [00:14] no [00:14] anybody knows a good tutorial about sendmail in slack 12? [00:14] just want to build it. :) [00:14] oh... i meant making up as 'inventing'.... [00:14] i found some but old... i though that something may change [00:14] oh, no, not inventing or anything, it was released and now I want to build and install it. :) [00:14] fire|bird, will you upload it? hehe, i want to try it... [00:15] the best sendmail tutorial i ever saw was in NetBSD 2 or 3; I have never seen a good Linux one or a good one at sendmail.org... [00:15] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:15] tanamo: not sure about that, I have to see if I can even get it built first. Are you on current? [00:15] dchmelik: great! i will look for it then [00:16] maybe if you install sendmail.conf it will make things easier [00:16] not doing that a long time ago may have been my mistake [00:16] dchmelik: well, i will try everything, but want to read first [00:16] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.218.33.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] but if it takes much work to set up sendmail.conf it is probably going to be a lot [00:16] dchmelik: do you have any link to that netbsd tutorial? [00:17] fire|bird, yes i run current... [00:17] i might... let me see.... [00:17] sendmail.cf ain't it? (or did they change the name?) [00:17] well at a loss here, short of re-installing everything...only thing apparently broken is wicd though...any last suggestions to an "undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_Decode" ?? [00:17] RogueAI (n=RogueAI@75-120-138-11.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:18] Urchlay: maybe sendmail.conf is a "nicer" and "easy-to-understand" sendmail.cf [00:18] webbi: this might still work: http://netbsd.pair.com/ [00:18] hey rworkman can we control runlevels initialization from the lilo.conf? [00:18] however it only works 95 to 99% for Linux [00:18] there is still something you have to figure out from the rest of the docs [00:19] dchmelik: i see, anyway it will help me... thanks! [00:19] the Linux docs I once read would not even get sendmail to run [00:19] i hope things are better nowadays [00:19] wait I recall now [00:19] if you install sendmail and the configuration file there may also be an automatic setup program? anyone know? [00:20] dchmelik: well, a couple of years ago i tried with the linux tutorial and it fails, yes [00:20] dchmelik: later i decided to use qmail and it works, but now i dont want to install extra things [00:20] brb [00:20] i may have eventually got it to work on Linux [00:20] but I think I just switched from pine to emacs for mail [00:21] wire-anti: I *think* so. I've not tried it :/ [00:21] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:21] rworkman: with which parameters? if you know :) [00:22] wire-anti: you mean like saying "lilo 4" to boot straight into runlevel 4 even if inittab is configured to with another default init level? [00:22] s/lilo/linux/ [00:22] BP{k}: yep [00:22] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [00:22] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:22] BP{k}: like grub does [00:23] wire-anti: yes. [00:23] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:23] add that to the append line in lilo.conf [00:23] wire-anti: if your default kernel image has the label "linux" you can specify "linux 3" or "linux 4" or "linux 6" <-- if you want to be silly :) [00:23] type it at the boot: prompt if you like [00:24] Nick change: _jhw_ -> Lvcifer [00:24] BP{k}: OK , now could you explain how this can override inittab... I truly can't understand that... :/ [00:24] wire-anti: inittab sets a default runlevel if you dont specify anything at boot time. [00:25] BP{k}: You mean like init 6? [00:25] :) [00:25] Dominian: yeah. it works .. kinda useless do. [00:25] of course [00:25] that's the point [00:26] the interesting thing is that inittab gets read by inittab, which is a userspace app [00:27] BP{k}: OK and how inittab knows that bootloader has already got a runlevel specified? [00:27] Nick change: Lvcifer -> jhw [00:27] meaning init has to take steps to retrieve the boot parameter (check the relevant /proc file I think) [00:27] hmm thats right [00:28] I guess named has to cache DNS instead of getting all the numbers from a larger server.... [00:28] actually I think it's simpler than that, IIRC any kernel boot parameters that the kernel doesn't understand, it sticks them in the environment for init to read via getenv() [00:31] Action: BP{k} was gonna guess, the kernelfairies tell mr. init what to do :P [00:31] did anyone go to toorcamp? [00:31] fiyawerx (n=Fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] BP{k}: i am sure that is correct [00:32] kihote (i=76454c3a@gateway/web/freenode/x-rypqxnyappqrvgas) joined ##slackware. [00:32] /sbin/init asks the Oracle of Penguia, and the Oracle speaketh in tongues. The kernelfairies just translate it into sbinglish. [00:32] is anyone using a newer radeon video card? I'm dying to put linux on the new pc I just built but afraid im gonna have issues, thought I heard about the fglrx drivers not working with some of the newer kernels, too [00:32] the card is an 4890 [00:32] ask the Oracle of Penguia [00:33] Action: quasar uses an x800 but doesn't use fglrx [00:34] fiyawerx: what exactly is the concern? not having accelerated 3d, or it not working at all? [00:34] 99.99 you will get a working xserver, but im not sure on the 3d front....i have no interest there basically [00:35] if you have an /etc/nntpserver then /sbin/init could ask the Usenet Oracle [00:35] hm, might be ok at least with xserver for now [00:35] downloading the dvd torrent, will see how it goes [00:36] 800kB/sec too, pretty nifty [00:36] i just have no experience in the last 3-4yrs with what your issues could be, but it should be simple to get your drivers installed and going [00:36] downloading the dvd torrent sounds like a shady activity [00:37] i have a...6yr old pc with nvidia and that is super simple. so im sure yours will be =D [00:37] hows that? [00:38] danklesman: depends on the torrent [00:38] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] if you get it from some BT site, maybe it is iffy....but from slackware.com it should be good [00:38] as always check mdsums =D [00:39] ok, i thought you meant some movie you are testing your card with [00:39] got it from http://slackware.com/torrents/slackware-12.2-install-dvd.torrent [00:40] nah, just planning ahead with the video question, havn't tried the install yet, and my last machine was nvidia, never had problems with that one [00:40] but recently got the ok from the wife to build a new gaming machine, and figured i'd try linux on it [00:40] way back nvidia was more open than ati but today i think both are pretty cool [00:41] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:42] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] eh, both are proprietary drivers [00:43] i dont mind them being proprietary as long as they work [00:43] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [00:44] yeah, but they don't work for everyone, you know [00:46] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-47.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:47] and, eh, some of us really do hate to use proprietary software just because it's proprietary [00:47] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:47] Hi all. [00:47] I have Slack 12.1 [00:47] I'm thinking of updating to 12.2 [00:48] I have the instructions. I just have to garner the courage... [00:48] How long does it take? [00:48] eh, better hurry up, 13.0 will be coming out Real Soon Now :) [00:48] lol [00:50] hey, fire|bird [00:50] gtl here [00:50] ganeshix: it doesn't take long. Less time that doing a fresh install of 12.2, probably (but requires more attention: the directions tell you to upgrade certain packages first, and by the gods you better do it like it says) [00:51] b0tn3t (n=void@207-118-95-150.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:52] the instructions are not all they are cracked up to be [00:52] they're not perfect, no [00:52] they say nothing about tagfiles... they make you install EVERYTHING [00:52] I see... I'll be very careful. Plus, I already backed up my / partition.... [00:52] yeah. Though installing everything is probably a safer choice for the type of person who's just now reading the instructions for the first time ever. [00:52] If you know that, you shouldn't need to follow the instructions slavishly. [00:52] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:53] dchmelik: I am sure the instructions kinda assume if you know how to write your own tagfiles and all, you should know how to upgrade. [00:53] gtludwig (n=gustavo@189.114.200.129.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:53] bah, trumped by Motoko-chan. [00:53] how safe is it to upgrade with slackpkg from one release to another? [00:53] 100% [00:54] jhw, if you read the release notes carefully, it's perfectly safe. [00:54] If you are really new, it's not all that safe. [00:54] Action: Motoko-chan broke a pure-LVM install once and it took over an hour to fix the one thing preventing it from booting right [00:54] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (devel) (IRC client for Emacs)" [00:55] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.64.183) joined ##slackware. [00:55] well, im new to slack, used debian before but i´m getting used to all the new things slackware comes along with [00:55] Let's just say the details on LVM are kinda skimpy, even with searching. [00:55] jhw, one thing that may change between Slackware releases are dependencies. [00:55] Or package name changes. [00:55] Read the release notes carefully to note those. [00:55] (Well, the name changes.) [00:56] thx for the advice [00:56] Action: dchmelik wonders what 'Motoko' means [00:56] woot! go go kdemultimedia-4.3.0 [00:56] 1) always read UPGRADE.TXT 2) always read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT 3) always read the manpage for whatever tool you use 4) merge *ALL* .new files [00:56] jhw: ^^^ [00:57] I've temporarily broken things by using slackpkg to upgrade between releases. [00:57] Keeping a cool head to install deps and stuff is necessary, but it's almost always easy to recover from. [00:57] N.B. people, step 4, *merge* the .new files, don't just copy 'em over the other ones without even looking at 'em [00:57] diff/vimdiff FTW! [00:57] slackpkg has a command to run through .new files. [00:58] And you can get a diff to verify changes. [00:58] Motoko-chan: yes and overwrites and leaves the old one as .orig. [00:58] i've already broken several things under slackware which never came to me on debian but i managed to recover them all until today [00:58] howdy BP{k}, you're day going/went well? [00:58] I usually don't need to merge, I either overwrite or delete the new. [00:58] BP{k}: vimdiff kinda annoys me because my terminals aren't 160 characters wide, but yeah [00:58] But then again, YMMV [00:58] I usually tell slackpkg to keep the .new files and use find to locate them and diff/vimdiff then merge. [00:59] hope anybody can help me... here it is: i just verified that i have sendmail running, with slackware default config... i tried to send an email from php and i noticed about 2 things: 1. it's really slow (which does not have too importance) 2. maillog show me that the mail was sent and accepted, but later that it says that appear an error that says: "Data Format Error"... any ideas? [00:59] hm, do car commercials even still have "your mileage may vary" in them? [00:59] Who here knows the company Henkel? [00:59] Urchlay, in the very fine print, usually. [01:00] Action: Urchlay hasn't seen a car (or any other kind of) commercial in maybe 8-10 years [01:00] webbi, unless you have the requirement to use Sendmail, Postfix is a nicer option. [01:00] fire|bird: not too bad. starting to slightly stress about the upcoming trip :) [01:00] Action: Motoko-chan has always found Sendmail to be a twisted mess [01:00] Motoko-chan: well there is always qmail too... but i wanted to have it working [01:00] sendmail comes with slackware, postfix doesn't, that may or may not influence your decision [01:00] Motoko-chan: but i know that it's really really difficult [01:00] Don't get me started on qmail... [01:01] Action: Motoko-chan manages a qmail server [01:01] It is running on Slackware, but it's still qmail. [01:01] heh, if you're going for dead-simple, might as well use exim (it really is dead simple, or I found it to be, last time I had to mess with it) [01:01] I have found exim to hog CPU. [01:01] But maybe it was cPanel's insane config. [01:01] Action: webbi can found a lot of help from Motoko-chan then! [01:01] both exim and postfix are on slackbuilds.org. btw. [01:01] But yeah, does anyone know the company Henkel? [01:02] OCP must replace Audacious [01:02] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.64.183) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:02] i will make some tries and then deliver what i choose [01:03] webbi: all I can offer is to make sure your /etc/hosts file has your FQDN listed [01:03] quasar, good advice. [01:03] Having proper DNS set up also is a huge help. [01:03] quasar: hmmm interesting point [01:04] dous (n=dous@203.143.159.19) joined ##slackware. [01:04] quasar IMO that's incorrect advice [01:04] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [01:05] Quiznos, explain? [01:06] BP{k}: ah yeah, what date does your trip begin? [01:06] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [01:06] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-42-82-255-116-182.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] the fqdn comes from isp, if one is running dhcpcd then the name is already in use [01:07] rather, fqdn comes from a nameserver [01:07] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [01:07] hosts contains aliases [01:07] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-42-82-255-116-182.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] If it saves a lookup to an external DNS though. [01:07] even using hosts to nullify, for instance, advertisers, is a bad idea; iuse iptables instead [01:07] if you're on residential cable or DSL, your ISP might not be so accomodating as to set up reverse DNS for your domain [01:08] it doesnt. the whole file must be sought through [01:08] using the file to block ads takes alot of time to search [01:08] eh, actually, "the whole file" means "the whole chunk of memory where the file is cached" except the first time it got used [01:08] you know the form? ``localhost ad.server.net'' for instance [01:08] it's not cached [01:09] fire|bird: we're leaving wednesday the 12th [01:09] all disk reads are cached [01:09] but hosts cannot be cached [01:09] BP{k}: nice, how long is your trip? [01:09] the file cant be cached [01:09] run "free" and see how big your cache is... if it's zero or very small, then yes, reads aren't currently being cached [01:09] uh [01:09] what makes you say that? [01:09] fire|bird: two weeks, hopefully I can get some kind of net access at my parents :) [01:09] I'm talking about kernel-level disk caching, not something applications do [01:10] because when you add to the file, libc's networking code always sees new additions to the file. [01:10] yea i know [01:10] BP{k}: yeah, hopefully. :) [01:10] yeah, when you add to the file, the kernel writes out the modified version *and* keeps it in the disk cache (like any other file, nothing magic about it) [01:10] fire|bird: I am just gonna have this feeling 13.0 will be released while I am gone ;) [01:10] Urchlay i get what you mean but the cached blocks would always be made "dirty?" so that file would be reread [01:10] no [01:11] the point is that etc/hosts is always reread by libc code [01:11] BP{k}: haha, yeah, it just might be, you better find net access somewhere so you don't miss out. [01:11] (i may be wrong on the techi info about kernel but not on what libc does) [01:11] what makes it so seem to crawl in a browser, is when people alias ads.whatever.net to localhost, and there's no httpd server running on localhost (or worse, there is one, but it's got an iptables -j DROP rule) [01:12] nods [01:12] iptables would be the nest way to ignore ad servers [01:12] nest/best [01:12] yeah, from glibc's point of view, it's calling open() and read() (or probably mmap() these days), but the kernel's feeding it cached data if it's found in the cache... [01:13] nods [01:13] but the data is always fresh [01:13] actually I find adblock plus to be the "best" way (at least, it can block only part of a domain, like http://usefulsite.com/ads/*) [01:13] so, back to prob, adding fqdn in hosts, that's a bad idea bc hosts is not for that purpose [01:13] and firefox never even requests the blocked content [01:13] ok [01:13] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:13] ty [01:14] opera is hit or miss i think on blocking via hosts [01:14] i duno why [01:14] even .js code sometimes still runs empty moving lil windows [01:14] eh, hosts is not really for that purpose, but if you're on residential DSL where your reverse mapping is 12-34-56-78-blahblah.yourcity.yourisp.net, it might be your only real option if you want to run a real mail server [01:15] but that host would never get to answer a dns call to respond to whereis to whoami [01:15] on the :53 [01:15] (well, your only real option without paying 10x as much money to your ISP) [01:15] nods [01:15] right [01:15] (see, i'm not so dumb as i think you are :) [01:16] lol [01:16] it would make your mail server run and think it knows what it's doing, but the rest of the world might not agree [01:16] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-99-139-136-178.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:16] nods [01:16] dyndns would be a help in this instance then [01:16] or other like svc [01:16] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:16] i need to restart, brb [01:16] webbi (n=webi@190.247.201.22) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:17] still, the common case is that you buy a domain and get forward DNS working, but not reverse... in that case, hosts would be enough to get sendmail to start up, and forward DNS + maybe MX records would get mail @yourdomain.com routed to your mail server [01:17] how does adblock work? by what method? [01:17] yea but etc/network is for that, isnt it? [01:18] adblock plus is a browser plugin, I believe it's written in javascript and it has to hook into the browser's "fetch URL" routine [01:18] ok [01:18] that's relatively simple [01:18] fiyawerx1 (n=Fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] i'd travel the iptables route tho, makes more sense to me [01:18] eh, actually, I dunno what /etc/networks is ever used for in real life. It seems like it got obsoleted by classless routing [01:19] simple script that takes IP or name to add for dropping [01:19] nods, ive not seen in used in years either [01:19] yeah, but that won't let you block http://somesite.com/ads/* without also blocking all the other stuff on that site (which you actually want to be able to see) [01:19] that scriptmight be buttonable [01:19] true [01:20] block Google [01:20] heh [01:20] docx98 (n=d@71.150.66.124) left irc: [01:20] I see about one ad per week that slips through my adblockplus rules (and I block them when I see them) [01:20] that's good ROI [01:21] yeah, especially since the cash part of the investment is $0.00 (unless you want to count the time it takes me to click "block this image" and maybe customize the block URL) [01:21] they say time is money... [01:21] that's still good ROI [01:22] i'm sick of Jasmine [01:22] lol [01:22] that damned red background [01:22] ultimately it saves the advertisers some $$$ too, they don't spend the bandwidth it would take to spam me with ads that I am literally never going to pay attention to, much less click on or buy something [01:22] yep [01:23] ok, so we're agreed that using hosts to hold fqdn IP is a bad idear? [01:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:23] er, yeah, bad idea. However it might be the only thing you can do in some circumstances [01:24] i also recall way back in the day that it used to be that we'd do this, and for localnet too [01:24] a better idea is to explicitly tell sendmail (or whatever) in its config file, to accept mail for your domain [01:24] if one is going to use sendmail at all, then yea, that's SOP [01:24] # file containing names of hosts for which we receive email [01:24] Fw/etc/mail/local-host-names [01:24] nods [01:25] man, it's been 3 or 4 years since I looked at a sendmail config [01:25] slKIvs (n=ivan@96.81.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:25] it's been a century for me [01:25] can't say I really miss it :) [01:25] someone tunneled through it and trashed my sys [01:25] ouch [01:25] bad config, or exploitable buffer overflow or something in sendmail? [01:25] yea, so far, Pam and sendmail are banned from here [01:25] dont recall. [01:26] hmm, pam... tell us your pam story? [01:26] '95 days, i just thought it was too complicated for me, i've always had a 1-user box [01:26] (I don't run it because slackware doesn't have it, I dunno anything about why pam might be good or bad) [01:27] for a 1-user box, one need only a good 3-char-class passwd [01:27] sendmail has got hacked into for at least 10 - 15 years [01:27] and tweak network files, like etc/hosts.{allow,deny} [01:27] for a 1-user box that doesn't run any services and is on a private LAN, you might not even need that much :) [01:28] dchmelik yea; i got the drift from Bernstein's files [01:28] Bernstein? [01:28] but i'mnot on a private lan. [01:28] qmail author [01:28] cr.yp.to [01:28] oh... [01:28] coolest. domain name. ever. [01:29] lol yea [01:29] it is almost as if the sendmail authors enjoy hacks [01:29] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:29] actually, I think it's evidence of how the author thinks, his mental process being corrupt. IMO [01:29] i do, echo "ALL: ALL" > /etc/hosts.deny [01:30] that locks up a box pretty well [01:30] and i do see failures to connect in syslog, so i know it works [01:30] hm. Maybe it's just me, I tend to go for iptables rules and ignore /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} completely [01:30] sendmail was also the most widely used mta, so one would expect more exploits [01:30] Urchlay: same here [01:30] well, it's additive, doesnt itnerfer [01:30] interfere [01:30] right [01:31] and is simple; i dont really use; that's a next step i do, if necesa [01:31] if i have to iptab, then i find a script to add rules [01:31] GNU/Linux needs an extra mascot of a good-looking lass in a devil bikini costume like BSD [01:32] there are fem-tux pair images available [01:32] cool, i wish my DNS was working [01:32] well we two are in the mood; what's the prob? [01:33] ? [01:33] esplain [01:33] dns not workin [01:33] my ISP's DNS [01:33] o [01:33] it is still not working [01:33] switch to another provider; opendns? [01:33] free [01:33] fiyawerx (n=Fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:34] i cannot really switch here without paying $20 more [01:34] opendns sucks [01:34] what is it [01:34] why echelon [01:34] use level3's 4.2.2.1 & 4.2.2.2 [01:34] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-205-102-91.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:34] opendns is a free service [01:34] level3 is also free (i've never been contacted to pay) years ago [01:34] I am using 4.2.2.2 right now but my ISP must have some problem [01:35] someone said those were verizon [01:35] duno [01:35] heh, they probably block off-network outbound DNS requests [01:35] heh ive been using 4.2.2.2 for years whenever i need to test something [01:35] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:35] which isn't really a "problem", it's a "draconian policy" IMO [01:35] opendns forces ads [01:35] it never NXDOMAIN's [01:35] nx? [01:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:36] echelon: really? After the nasty backlash that came from verisign trying to do that a few years back? [01:36] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:36] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:36] Quiznos: NXDOMAIN = no such domain [01:36] ah; i still see that today [01:36] how could opendns give you ads? [01:36] still see what? ads instead of errors? [01:36] but i have to search for a unused name [01:36] yea [01:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:36] dnslookup or whatever programs use does not do ads [01:36] your ISP is evil then [01:37] no, opendns returns ads when it cant find a name [01:37] instead of a 404 page [01:37] well you are talking about http, not dns [01:37] well maybe it is a 404 page; but it has an ad [01:37] dchmelik: well, sorta. the DNS returns the IP of a web server that's got a ton of ads on it [01:37] but name searching is dns [01:38] antiwire: hi [01:38] dchmelik: the server probly maps all *.html requests to HTML ad pages, and all *.(jpg|gif|png) requests to ad images [01:38] anyone know the opendns numbers? [01:38] yea, my resolve.conf is pointing to opendns at the moment; dhcpcd is not replacing that file [01:38] i have em; hold [01:38] grep: /etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory [01:38] i noticed in Slackware you have to add a '-R' to rc.inet1 in a couple places to prevend dhcp from replacing that [01:38] dchmelik: 208.67.222.222 and .220.220 [01:38] oops [01:38] nameserver 208.67.222.222 [01:38] nameserver 208.67.220.220 [01:38] cool, thanks [01:39] yw [01:39] does anyone think rc.inet1 should be improved? [01:39] i think you have to register first tho. dont recall if unreg'd users can access. [01:39] try it [01:39] no, you don't need to register [01:39] improved in what way? [01:39] i'm always messing with inet1 when i first install [01:39] tweaking really [01:39] ading opts to dhcpcd call [01:40] like, giving -l a +1meg second lease time [01:40] lol [01:40] it seems poor that it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf [01:40] that's an opt to use [01:40] that's fixed in rc.inet1.conf and there is even an example [01:40] ok, in the past I had to do it [01:41] antiwire: This dd image has taken all this time. I forgot to specify a bs=, I hope it finishes sometime this year. :P [01:41] cannot you give dhcpcd an infinite lease? [01:41] #DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[4]="yes" [01:41] dchmelik: the lease time isn't up to the client [01:41] DHCPCD=/sbin/dhcpcd [01:41] DHCPCDOPTS="-C -R -l 10341034 -o -p -F both" [01:41] unless you program a router that way or something [01:41] those are my changes to inet1 [01:42] the user can set the lease time [01:42] does '-C' slow it? [01:42] heh, unless the client is evil and ignores the lease time it's given (but then the server could hand out that IP to someone else after it decides the lease is expired) [01:42] not apparently [01:43] it's not the client who'd ignore, but the isp dhcpd that could. [01:44] whats the best for firewall router machine : configure th dslmodem as bridge or router? [01:44] eh? as in, client requests a lease for X seconds, but the server gives it an infinite lease instead? [01:45] Urchlay or some time decided by whoever confd the dhcpd at isp [01:45] right, but when it does that, a well-behaved server will tell the client how long its lease is actually for [01:45] yea [01:45] unfortunately opendns either requires registration or my ports 80 and for email have problems [01:45] get an nmap dchmelik [01:46] I think I have it installed [01:46] I have not used it much [01:46] someone nmap him [01:46] I'm known to run dhcpcd once to get my "dynamic" cable modem IP, then set it up statically and leave it for years [01:46] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.87.7) joined ##slackware. [01:46] yea me too [01:46] most places I've lived, my apartment lease ran out long before my IP quit working :( [01:46] as long as your WAN MAC stays the same you usually won't loose the lease anyway [01:46] lol [01:47] here in florida, with blackouts and power drops,my sys doesnt stay up that long [01:47] maybe a few months but a drop will happ [01:47] if you changed the WAN nic out or gave it a new MAC the ISP would most likely mark that old IP as free and eventually there would be a conflict if you left it static [01:48] yeah, i was thinking more about for a LAN [01:48] antiwire: true. For a while I had a cable ISP whose dhcp server would go on the fritz and refuse to hand out IP addresses for days at a time, but if I manually config'ed to the last IP/gateway I had, everything would work fine... so I got in the habit of doing it that way always [01:48] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] Urchlay: my cable modem has a console and the most common error i see from it is failure to contact time server [01:49] i called them and no one there knows wtf i'm talking about [01:49] damn, google can activate lappy mic's and cams independently of user's will [01:49] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.159.74.6) joined ##slackware. [01:49] antiwire you give too much credit for knowing stuff to isp [01:50] a real (serial and/or telnet) console, or web UI? [01:50] noscript,flashblock [01:50] wait, when it failed to contact a time server, did that keep it from actually working, or just cause noise in its log? [01:51] heh. Nobody can activate what ain't there (and if I did have a webcam, it would have a sliding door over the lens, or else a piece of duct tape, when not in use) [01:51] but what of those users who dont know at all whats going on [01:53] i think, given the curent climate of govt insanity, we all need to stop using unencrypted communications in all its forms. [01:53] since people are being recruited to spy on everyone else [01:53] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [01:53] wait, doesn't freenode still not support SSL? [01:53] duno [01:54] i need to this all this stuff myself [01:54] /quit OH NOES, TEH CIA IS WATCHEN ME! [01:54] 6667 doentst do encryption on their port [01:54] everyone is watching [01:54] no ssl yet, will be available with next server upgrades [01:54] -- Thomas Dolby [01:54] ty [01:55] between the existing tools and this little beauty SSL is even less of what it used to be http://www.thoughtcrime.org/software/sslsniff/ [01:55] i was nicely suprised to hear a few weeks ago after the Iranian election that everyone else on the net was providing encrypted comms for passing msgs to/from Iran netters [01:56] so info could get out of there [01:56] proving that govts cant do squat if we provide viable alternatives [01:56] uh oh, Quiznos is in ##slackware [01:57] antiwire: that's kinda ambiguous to me [01:57] draeath hi [01:57] back in ##linux I see :P [01:57] Urchlay: which part? my 'existing tools' part or sslsniff? [01:57] no; still silenced there [01:57] "The new certificates are constructed in a certificate chain that is signed by any certificate that you provide. " <--- does that mean I have to steal a signing cert from someone like verisign? [01:57] Urchlay i think you can define your own [01:57] you cna make your own [01:57] that's the change [01:58] yea, i saw that for myself a few weeks ago [01:58] It looks like it was for an IE vulnerability. [01:58] IE isn't the only issue though [01:58] Essentially, you could use a valid cert issued to you to sign any request. [01:58] yea [01:58] Which would then be valid [01:58] ehhh [01:58] I must mess with this [01:59] Looks like it needs the MS Crypto API to work though [01:59] i never had a valid cert but was queried to define one from something sw [01:59] Urchlay: have you done the standard faked cert method yet? [01:59] antiwire: I've done self-signed certs anyway [01:59] yeah [01:59] I run a CA at work. [01:59] Signs internal certs. [02:00] in the mitm attack using a self signed certs the user still has to the ssl connection [02:00] most users just say ok though [02:00] ah, so it's not truly a transparent MITM [02:00] 8i've been rejecting alot of invalid certs lately [02:00] the old way wasn't, right [02:01] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:01] so how can the new way work? [02:01] http://www.thoughtcrime.org/papers/null-prefix-attacks.pdf [02:01] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.64.183) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:02] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:02] ÛÛÛºÔ ÝÔ Ðº [02:02] ÓÑ ¼ºØ ÓÙ Ø [02:02] ... [02:02] oh, wow, xpdf copy/paste leaves much to be desired [02:03] ÛÛÛºÔ ÝÔ Ðº [02:03] ÓÑ ¼ºØ ÓÙ Ø [02:03] yea i'm sick of pdf files [02:03] what was that supposed to say though? [02:03] holy shit [02:03] i feel like puking guise [02:03] www.paypal.com\0thoughtcrime.org [02:03] ÛÛúÔ ÝÔ : [02:03] why jane [02:03] i HAT exercising [02:03] heh [02:03] {Ø,N,Z,Q,A,J,R,C} [02:03] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [02:03] breathe, breathe... repeat [02:03] my heart is killing me [02:03] missyjane, gotta exercise to lose the pounds [02:03] tiny !!! [02:03] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [02:04] no im keeping my heart strong [02:04] i dont need to lose anything [02:04] if anything, i need to MOAR [02:04] Quiznos: ! :D [02:04] im skinny as phuck [02:04] lol [02:04] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:04] LIES [02:04] rofl missyjane [02:04] eh, so, that relies on CAs allowing NULs in the CN field. Should be damn easy for the CAs to prevent, on their end (just reject any request whose CN contains \0) [02:04] we all know all girls online are ether fat or male [02:05] nice hack though [02:05] Action: draeath chuckles at systems that take a \ [02:05] er [02:05] oh [02:05] ok [02:05] superGear lol; yea, survey says, "90% of all lesbians are guys" [02:05] there r gurls on teh intarweb?! [02:05] no, that's C notation, I meant literally a character with ASCII code zero [02:05] dont worry im not real [02:05] quasar yep [02:05] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [02:05] Urchlay: you see the explanation in there though? [02:05] yeah [02:05] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [02:05] draeath sounds neat... it sounds like dragon death breath [02:06] browser compares www.paypal.com\0www.thoughtcrime.org\0 to www.paypal.com\0 with strcmp() and they come up identical [02:06] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [02:06] wb chopp :) [02:07] Chopper: Song of The Surfer [02:07] Urchlay: yeah and most users wouldn't even 'get it' [02:07] yeah [02:08] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:08] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.87.7) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:08] so sslsniff does what, creates a bogus CA called verisign.net\0somethingelse? [02:08] i dont think "bogus" is right word; "private" might be better [02:09] well, "bogus" in the sense that it's deliberately wrong/misleading, but yeah [02:09] Urchlay: yeah it can create the certs [02:09] where ettercap used a default cert or a poorly built user created cert, sslsniff now does the better fudging [02:09] so it signs the certs with its bogus or private CA, and the client thinks it's really signed by verisign or whoever [02:09] again by calling strcmp() [02:10] yeah [02:10] and puppies die [02:10] canine fornification [02:11] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:11] the workaround in the client might be as simple memcmp() with an explicit length. The browser or whatever has to know the real length of the domain name it's trying to verify, and has to be able to extract the entire CN field from the cert (because it's delimited with quotes or something, right? been a while since I looked at the x.509 file format) [02:11] dchmelik: heh I've seen people call it all sorts of things. "Dreth" "Drayth" "Dr. Eath" [02:11] dchmelik: it sounds more like Drayth [02:12] Dr. A Eat H? [02:13] actually just from looking at it, I thought it was something like "dry-ath" [02:16] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-202-132.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:17] extract the complete CN into a string pointed to by cn_candidate, and set cn_candidate_len to the real length (based on delimiters in the file), and if (strlen(cn_candidate) != cn_candidate_len) { error(); } [02:17] hi [02:18] it doesn't work if you don't do online banking with banks whose certs are not signed by trusted root certs [02:19] but pki is inherently flawed. but it does make a lotof money for a lot of people - so its gonna be around for a while [02:20] what does x.509 have to do with w3? [02:20] the other big problem is a lot of certs (root certs even) use md5 hashes [02:21] dchmelik: the format the certificate data files are in. x.something, I may have got the wrong number. [02:21] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD896A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:21] morning [02:21] another nice day in HELL [02:21] y0 slackytude [02:21] or Helheim? [02:22] always [02:22] llol [02:22] slackytude: or should I say *Hell*o :D [02:22] 0.7734 [02:22] no, I got it right, or anyway the PDF mentions "x509v3 certificates" [02:22] fire|bird: heh, heya fire|bird [02:23] antiwire: Well, I can salvage the mess that is what clonezilla left: http://drbl.sourceforge.net/faq/fine-print.php?path=./2_System/43_read_ntfsimg_content.faq#43_read_ntfsimg_content.faq [02:24] fire|bird: oh, how did it go? [02:24] antiwire: tried sysprep stuff? [02:24] slackytude: Well, I haven't got far with it yet, was using dd to image it, but that'll take forever, it's only at 46G of 160G [02:25] fire|bird: uh, fun [02:25] and now I found a way to make the clonezilla stuff into a .img file [02:25] fire|bird: so it boots? [02:25] except I get: ERROR: You must specify a device file. [02:26] slackytude: haven't got that far, trying to restore with clonezilla failed. [02:26] oh, great fun [02:27] oh yeah [02:27] If I can get this command working now, ntfsclone, I can avoid having to reimage the drive [02:28] a natural number is either 0 or 1 or a successor to 0 or 1 or a successor to another natural number. [02:29] haha, now I get: ERROR: Input file is not an image! (invalid magic) [02:29] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:30] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@66.33.206.8) joined ##slackware. [02:30] in general I try to avoid running any software with "zilla" at the end of the name (except "mozilla firefox") [02:31] and i avoid software with too many Ks [02:32] well, 3 K's in a row is probably a reliable indicator that the software is bigoted and evil [02:32] so combined, you two avoid kzilla's [02:32] FileZilla is a good FTP app. [02:33] fire|bird, and i hate fileKilla [02:33] haha [02:34] Urchlay: it's at 48G :P [02:34] /bin/ftp is a good ftp app... /usr/bin/ncftp and /usr/bin/wget likewise [02:34] Urchlay, lftp is great as well [02:34] oh, right, forgot about that one [02:35] lftp is nice. [02:35] Sometimes, though, you need a nice GUI app. [02:35] for ftp? [02:35] Heck, FileZilla even does SFTP/SCP. [02:35] I haven't run into a situation like that [02:35] And works with ssh-agent! [02:36] er, other than using a web browser as a download-only FTP client, I do find that nice & convenient [02:36] Motoko-chan, i use firefox for an FTP gui sometimes [02:37] (or would find it convenient, if firefox's "save as" didn't take 10 sec to render the first time I use it. I only have 5000 files/directories in /home/urchlay, why does it take that damn long?) [02:38] heh. "ls" takes 5 seconds, too. WTF? [02:39] Urchlay, means its not cached, get more ram [02:39] and reboot less [02:39] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.218.33.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:39] ls is almost instant on my machine [02:39] i only have 107 files in ~, FF downloads into ~/downloads and that only has 2100 files [02:40] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [02:40] I reboot never [02:40] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:40] eh, well, last time I rebooted was when I moved in here (a week ago) [02:41] I have 2 gigs of RAM and I don't run KDE or gnome. The only memory-eating app is firefox, top shows: 30139 urchlay 20 0 458m 120m 15m S 0.0 6.0 5:39.84 firefox-bin [02:41] I have 108101 files in ~. Beat that! [02:42] "free -m" says I have 1299 megs of memory in use as a cache, so how come my home dir wasn't cached just now? (the second try at "ls > /dev/null", it's cached and runs instantly) [02:43] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [02:44] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-jgzvaxwkfhpydohs) joined ##slackware. [02:46] Gutzmek (n=here@ip174-70-131-136.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:48] LOL [02:49] Urchlay: high system load? [02:49] no [02:49] hrm [02:49] 02:49:28 up 6 days, 22:21, 7 users, load average: 0.05, 0.09, 0.08 [02:49] Urchlay: morning, btw [02:49] yah :) [02:50] Gutzmek (n=here@ip174-70-131-136.ks.ks.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:50] it's a mystery to me, you'd think my home directory would get accessed often enough that it would stay cached... [02:51] Action: slackytude shrugs [02:51] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.83.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] who knows [02:51] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [02:51] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [02:51] /n [02:51] oops .. [02:51] Urchlay: dont tell me that it suprises you if computers act weird sometimes [02:52] heh, it would surprise me if computers turned out to only be *acting* weird [02:52] hehe [02:52] i would watch your disk IO during the slow down. maybe you are seeing a graphical issue and not a disk issue [02:52] antiwire: tried sysprep`? [02:53] nah not yet [02:53] Action: slackytude nods [02:53] I just sent Pat a bug report on /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh because it was causing login shells to take 1.5 seconds to start up for me [02:53] Urchlay: yesterday someone was here with an odd issue. had some server who would drop connection for 400 to 7000 seconds every night at around 2am [02:54] and no obvious problems besides that, nothing in logs, no cronjob oor stuff [02:54] let me guess.. the cleaning lady came in an unplugged the server to connect her vacum cleaner? [02:54] antiwire: graphical issue? X is responsive during the delay, and I'm doing "time ls > /dev/null" so it's not actually having to scroll the terminal to output all the files [02:54] some day computers would be intelligent,and we would one day have *Islackware* [02:54] :P [02:55] antiwire: also my little dock applet CPU monitor shows the CPU usage is pegged during the 5-second delay (which is normal for this system during I/O, which is odd because all the drives are SATA, meaning they should be using DMA, right?) [02:55] init[1]: adding an "I" to it? Does that mean you're *I* nit? :D [02:55] o_O [02:56] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: No route to host [02:56] he's the 2nd element of the array init[], unless he's written in some language that starts array indices at 1 [02:56] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:56] lol [02:56] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:57] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:57] fraking boss, how can i handle a client without knowing all of our prestations... [02:57] like basic? [02:57] (indices starting at 1) [02:58] alisonken1noc: not the BASIC dialects I'm familiar with, they start at zero (unless you're using TI-99 BASIC, where there's an OPTION BASE 1 statement that makes them start at 1 instead) [02:58] ti99 basic wasn't the only one that allowed option base 1 [02:58] probly just the only one I remember, it's been 20 years :) [02:59] eh, well, except I still plink around in Atari 800 BASIC sometimes, for nostalgia purposes [03:00] unfortunately, I help a previous employer with his system - still running F.A.C.T.S. which uses business basic [03:01] classic example of why basic should stay as a training language rather than a business language [03:01] what platform's that? PC running DOS, or something weirder? [03:02] why not Atari ST? [03:02] started life on sco unix, but I got the linux version of the runtime, so he's running slackware 8 on that system [03:02] because I don't have my ST any more :( [03:02] and to be honest, because the ST's BASIC sucked (unless you're talking about GFA BASIC, which is closer to Pascal or something) [03:03] luckily I have my ISA pIII with a GUS and SB and Geforce3! [03:04] PCs don't qualify for nostalgia, for me... except a very few of the old games [03:04] what about demos? [03:04] nah [03:04] never got into the demo thing, even on the Atari where it was really popular [03:05] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [03:05] I will have to reform you [03:05] evo- (n=evo@wrzb-5f75ace1.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [03:05] with a hammer and a sickle? [03:05] that too i guess [03:05] I would make a crappy communist, way too greedy [03:05] evo- (n=evo@wrzb-5f75ace1.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Client Quit [03:06] i would probably make a good communist [03:06] i'm all for corruption of the state [03:06] when it's in favor of me of course [03:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] evo- (n=evo@wrzb-5f75ace1.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [03:07] I made a lousy hippie, when I tried it [03:07] what about a communard? [03:07] what does that mean anyway? [03:07] the concept of nonviolence seems OK to me, until I get punched in the face. Then I hit back, principles be damned. [03:07] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:08] I dunno what a communard is... the other day I was looking at someone's old cassette collection from the 1980s and he had a tape by a band called "the communards", but he didn't know what it meant either [03:09] it sounds like a free love communist [03:09] i like the whole free love idea [03:09] quoth Sir Wiki of the Pedia: [03:09] i just dont like the free std's that comes with it.. [03:09] "The Communards were members and supporters of the short-lived 1871 Paris Commune formed in the wake of the Franco-Prussian War and France's defeat." [03:09] the gifts that keep on giving [03:10] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] well there ya go. [03:10] Nick change: juice__ -> juice2 [03:10] saved a lot more time than trying to guess what it was. [03:11] actually, not knowing what it meant, I tried to use it in a sentence: [03:11] "I told that hippie to go take a bath, or else I'd kick him in the communards!" 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[03:15] in the old Atari world, the purpose of a demo was to wring more performance out of the the hardware than was thought to be possible... and/or to do something that the Commodore 64 couldn't do. [03:15] I dunno what PC demos were all about [03:15] were not some cracktros? [03:16] oh, right, but most of those were annoying, lame, or both [03:16] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [03:16] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:17] plus the idiot cracktro authors would sometimes make illegal direct jumps into the OS ROM, which guaranteed the code would only run on a particular revision of the OS [03:17] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:17] so on the 800, you'd run into games that "required" an 800XL (newer model), but only because of the stoopid cracktro [03:19] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:20] meow [03:20] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:20] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [03:21] i do not see why you do not have an Atari ST, Urchlay [03:21] eh, for about 8 or 10 years, when I was a little kid, the only computer I had was an Atari 8-bit [03:22] the ST came later, and I only had it for 2 or 3 years, so it just didn't hard-wire itself into my brain's nostalgia circuitry the way the 8-bit did [03:22] I have an 8-bit computer in the palm of my hand [03:22] gameboy? [03:23] no... hp49... at least i think it is 8-bt... but i have a ti-85 and 86 [03:23] nice [03:23] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:23] wintery_ (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] TI should make the Ti-87 and 88 and make them into Slackulators [03:24] running armedslack maybe? [03:24] if that would work [03:24] but I kind of like z80 [03:24] (does TI still exist as a company, or is it just a brand name now, like Atari?) [03:25] I think they still exist [03:25] Z80 is cool, but no way you're going to port Linux to it :) [03:25] yeah... oh well [03:26] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:27] oddsock (n=oddsock@w24-39-117-242-80-static.broadband.blic.net) left irc: "Leaving." [03:27] actually one of these years I want to write a game to run on a pac-man cabinet (z80 CPU, sprite/tile based graphics) [03:28] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:28] hello [03:28] hey fredoslack [03:28] Yep fire|bird [03:28] that would rule, Urchlay [03:28] i've deleted Windows hih i [03:29] \o/ [03:29] i've got a small problem [03:29] i can't mount my usb key :( [03:30] /etc/fstab is ok [03:30] hal don't want mount my key [03:30] 'dmesg|more' and find what it is called [03:30] ok thanks [03:30] or did you do that [03:30] it will not be automatic on the console... only if you are in KDE or something [03:31] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [03:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:32] "Mount the USB key, HAL" [03:32] "I'm sorry fredoslack, I'm afraid I can't do that." [03:32] y0 fredoslack [03:32] haha [03:32] ProTip: Always wear your helmet when working in the shuttle bay. [03:32] fredoslack: any error message? tried mounting by hand? [03:32] hi slackytude [03:33] yes, i search the error message [03:33] \o/, kde 4.3 is building great now, I've stopped it for tonight, it's 02:31 here, but all is going well now. :D [03:33] does "fdisk -l" show your the partition(s) on the key? (and when you plug it in, do you see anything in dmesg about usb storage finding a new disk?) [03:33] fire|bird, how can you stop it? [03:33] dchmelik: ctrl + c [03:34] in the right place that is. :) [03:34] now tomorrow, I can start again at kdebase-runtime [03:34] ctrl-S would have been better [03:34] Urchlay: what does that do? [03:34] fdisk -l give > Périphérique Amorce Début Fin Blocs Id Système [03:34] /dev/sdf1 * 1 2095 3917802 b W95 FAT32 [03:34] pause whatever's going on in your terminal until you press ctrl-Q [03:34] fredoslack, where do you want to mount it? [03:35] Urchlay: cool, I didn't know about that one. [03:35] ah [03:35] fredoslack: ok, "mkdir /mnt/tmp ; mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/tmp ; ls /mnt/tmp" ought to show you the files [03:35] i've got an error in my fstab [03:35] (you should do all the above as root) [03:35] i have sdb1 in my fstab [03:35] i have got [03:36] "Périphérique" is French for "Device"? Sounds like a mouthful (4 syllables?) [03:36] what does sdb1 have to do with it? [03:37] nothing [03:37] (what disk is sdb1?) [03:37] yessss [03:37] it's working [03:37] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:37] shiny [03:37] you can add a line in there for sdf1 if you want [03:37] it was just a name problem [03:37] Thank you every body [03:38] unplug && plug your usb key, see wha tail -f /var/log/dmesg or messages probably, there should be given sdX for your usb key, mount it as root [03:38] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:38] DO NOT UNPLUG it until you unmount it [03:38] fredoslack: temporary mounts don't have to be listed in /etc/fstab, also [03:38] yes its seems be mountable only with root [03:38] he's not mounted it, he wants to mount it :) [03:38] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [03:38] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:38] he just said "it's working", sounds like he mounted it [03:39] ok [03:39] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [03:40] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [03:40] only root can mount my key usb ? :/ [03:41] or do i must write a new user in /etc/group ? [03:41] fredoslack: are you in the plugdev group? [03:41] add * [03:41] for non-root users to mount it, you do need an /etc/fstab entry [03:41] root _is_ my user-account.. [03:41] (at least, the standard UNIXey way, you do. I dunno about using HAL in KDE or whatever) [03:41] fire|bird, i'm watching [03:42] tewmten: with UID 1000? And UID 0 is the user "god"? :) [03:42] fire|bird, no, just root ... i add fredoslack hi hi [03:42] fredoslack: you need to put your normal user in the plugdev group if you aren't already. [03:43] fire|bird, yes i've just had he [03:43] i reboot [03:43] ++ [03:43] for testing :) [03:43] Urchlay: you don't need an fstab entry for things like usb drives, etc. if you're using kde, xfce, etc. that mounts them via hal or whatever. [03:43] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [03:43] Urchlay: what? no.. my UID is 0 [03:43] :D [03:43] y0 tewmten [03:43] holla fire|bird [03:44] how goes? [03:44] i've been better [03:44] fire|bird: what I'd like to see is a non-GUI way to do the same. Plug in USB key, have it mounted somewhere & ready to use, from console or from windowmaker or whatever [03:44] uh [03:44] suprise customer visit [03:44] always bad [03:44] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:44] Urchlay: that exists, afaik [03:45] slackytude: depending on what you were doing when the customer walked in, he might be more surprised than you :) [03:45] Urchlay: command line hal clientz [03:45] Urchlay: heh [03:45] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:45] Urchlay: That is possible, I just can't remember now exactly. [03:45] Urchlay: looks like we messed up. its even in the calendar [03:45] s/now/how/ [03:46] Urchlay: could maybe ivman, pmount or similar do that ? [03:46] slackytude: I was messing with one a while back, but it annoyed me: I have a USB key that pretends to be both a regular drive and a CD-ROM (containing the windows drivers + some adware)... when I plug that key in, /dev/cdrom becomes the fake Cd-ROM [03:46] unplug the key and /dev/cdrom goes back to normal, but it still annoyed me and it wasn't obvious how to turn off that behaviour [03:46] Urchlay: sounds like a udev rule [03:47] Urchlay: nifty device btw, that could come in handy [03:47] Urchlay: ivman allows you to have automount feature even if you don't use a [03:47] volume manager like KDE, GNOME, or XFCE includes. [03:47] nah, you can't actually write to the fake-CD portion of the drive [03:48] Urchlay: Id put a 10-custom-rulez file in udev dir, telling it to put this stick as /dev/stickz or whatever [03:48] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] man I gotta stop putting z at each and every word [03:48] oh noez, fuse won't load. [03:49] Nick change: gynterk -> gynter [03:49] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:49] smart car not so smart now, eh? If it's so smart, it'd have gotten out of the way: http://imgur.com/kGUKD.png [03:51] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:51] Action: fire|bird listens to the silence. [03:51] oh, I just remembered why I wanted to leave the house today [03:52] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [03:52] someone told me you can go to wal-mart and buy a tiny mp3 player with 1G of storage for $20 [03:52] to buy a smartcar? [03:52] Urchlay: nice. [03:52] quasar: haha [03:52] bleah. My car's already too smart, or thinks it is. It keeps deciding I really meant to lock the doors when I never told it to do that. [03:52] Urchlay: good hunting [03:52] correct me if I am wrong : SCSA>Novell {CLE,CLP,CLA} >RHCT> LPI {1,2,3} >Mandriva ? [03:52] Urchlay: I gonna buy one today as well [03:52] coz my old one went kaput [03:53] I love my two sansa mp3 players. Ogg/Flac FTW!!!! [03:53] slackytude: I expect if I get the thing, I'll use it for a week or a month, then I'll lose it (it's *tiny*, I have a hard time keeping track of objects that are much smaller than my head) [03:53] lol [03:53] hehe [03:53] a head sized mp3 player, dang. [03:54] oh well $20, its your loss [03:54] gonna get a cheap pne for 20 euro or so, some trekstor or sumthing [03:55] you should get one built into a hat or headband [03:55] or glasses [03:55] anyway the idea is to fill it up with weird music to use for house music when I'm playing a show [03:55] nah [03:55] Urchlay: why not 2G: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10980516 [03:56] dchmelik: nah, then the hat would go through the wash. :P [03:56] nothing I hate worse than being in a cover band, playing a set, then the house music comes on and it's the same songs you just got done playing (only by the original artists, so by definition they're better) [03:56] I seen a hat the other day with a bottle opener built into the bill. [03:56] a Larry the Cable Guy "Git R Done" hat. :D [03:57] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:57] Git the BSD devil lady done [03:58] there's a BSD lady? [03:58] yes [03:58] Slack 'R Done [03:58] symbolically [03:58] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:58] it works with fredoslack yees [03:59] welcome back fredoslack [03:59] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:59] but i have needed to comment the ligne in fstab [03:59] fire|bird, you know, the BSD devil mascot? [03:59] re fire|bird [03:59] dchmelik: yup [04:00] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:00] Well, time to get going. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening} everyone. Take care. :) [04:00] goodnight, fire|bird [04:00] night dchmelik [04:00] see ya fredoslack [04:00] later slackytude Urchlay [04:01] see ya [04:01] you are going tp sleep ? [04:01] to [04:01] fredoslack: yup [04:01] ok [04:01] :) [04:01] goodnight :) [04:01] You will be asslackulated. It is useless to resist us. [04:02] haha [04:02] later guys. [04:02] rc2 :} cool. [04:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware. [04:02] mm.. ass [04:03] 'rc2?' [04:03] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [04:03] Hello! [04:03] tewmten, it is in 'assimilated' anyway [04:03] Peace be with you [04:04] tru [04:04] dchmelik yep .... rc2 ;} slack-current is now in rc2 [04:04] its kinda like how you can't have manslaughter without laughter! :D [04:05] rc2, orlyic... excellent! [04:05] it is? [04:06] it is! [04:07] nifty [04:08] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [04:09] ... a thief, a slayer, a *reaver*, to tread the jewelled thrones of Earth under his sandalled feet. [04:09] modding of game console -> 10 years prision [04:10] well, up to ten years [04:10] http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/08/modder-arrest-a-reminder-that-most-console-hacks-are-illegal.ars [04:10] jaskorpe_ (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:11] well bye, i switch to Xfce :) [04:11] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [04:13] slackytude: interesting [04:13] Action: slackytude nods [04:14] Haha I'm still going to mod a wii and my xbox's are not going back to stock. Just need to find a good lawyer haha. [04:14] what is 'back to stock?' [04:14] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [04:14] dchmelik: out of box [04:14] why get a lawyer when you can get a small south american guerilla army for the same price?! :D [04:14] back to unmodded status? [04:15] tewmten: to messy for me. [04:15] you need a large army to take on microsoft... [04:15] slackytude, speaking of which, my modded xbox is not here...my brother took it :( [04:15] and they have to really know how to shoot real guns, Halo playing doesn't count [04:15] Urchlay: haha [04:15] Thats what counter strick was for right? ;) [04:16] edman007: betray your family mebers and win fabolous prizes! [04:16] lol [04:16] slackytude: We shall make an opensource console. [04:16] :-) [04:16] those exist [04:16] and they suck [04:16] because they are no games for it [04:16] thought the gamepark gp32 and gp32x were open source consoles (well, handhelds, anyway?) [04:16] and they are ugly [04:17] just like open source software in general [04:17] HAHAHAHAA [04:17] whatever happend to pandora anyway [04:17] i opened the box.. [04:17] sorry [04:17] slackytude, but the article is a bit misleading, i know the act of modding my xbox allowed it to run any code, but it could not run pirated games with just the chip [04:18] tewmten: ugly as in graphics or hardware? [04:18] as i see it, just modding it does not make able to run copy protected games, it only allows it to run other code [04:18] lf4: yes [04:18] yxie (n=yxie@60.247.97.97) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:18] :D [04:18] the Atari 2600 is de facto an open source console, this century [04:18] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:19] edman007: still, that would break the DCMA [04:19] DMCA [04:19] "Circumventing these protections is never 'harmless fun,' as it erodes the foundation on which video game industry depends for its success."...hahaha ESA makes me laugh [04:19] Slackware topic how come it does have gnome as a desktop option? [04:19] there's no firmware, so no proprietary code, and all aspects of the hardware have been thoroughly reverse-engineered and the results published widely (also the original documentation got leaked 20 years ago) [04:20] slackytude, nah...DMCA says you have to do it to enable pirating, if pirating is a byproduct of what you do then its not illegal (and that an issue that you have to prove in court) [04:20] Urchlay: Atari 2600 is awesome I got one when I was 15 at a yardsale. :) [04:21] Action: dchmelik zzzz now [04:21] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [04:21] slackytude, but i modded my xbox originally to run linux and later xbmc (which is actually illegal on the xbox, as it requires a MS compiler that you can't buy) [04:22] if I owned a modern console that uses fragile CDs or DVDs for all the games, you damn well better believe I'll be making backups of my expensive software, and modding the console if need be, to use those backups [04:22] but if you mod the xbox to run linux, and don't installed hacked firmware then it won't break the DMCA [04:23] edman007: nope, just breaking the copy protection is in violation of dmca. just a few things are excluded from it [04:23] of the firmware I mean [04:23] change of firmware -> protection of firmware was broken -> prision [04:24] slackytude, but the mod chip does not break the copy protection, it just enables hacked firmware, the hacked firmware actually breaks it [04:24] yes [04:24] not to mention that under DMCA, even tools that enable you to possibly break a copy protection scheme are prohibited [04:25] every time you play a commercial DVD (that you bought) on a Linux box, you're violating the DMCA [04:25] the article says that if you mod it for piracy it is criminal and otherwise it is a civil case... [04:25] "piracy" isn't a well-defined legal term [04:25] unless you're talking about old laws about guys with parrots and peglegs on the high seas [04:25] http://xkcd.com/488/ [04:26] As long as it does not deal with copying anything and just running your own code its not a leagle issue for the most part. [04:26] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) left irc: "changing servers" [04:27] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) joined ##slackware. [04:27] slackytude: I wonder to what extreme the law carries that. If the protection scheme consists of a label on a CD saying "do not copy me", and I could potentially use dd to copy it, does that make dd illegal? [04:27] Urchlay: no, it needs to be some piece of code that resticts access [04:28] Urchlay: in some way [04:28] code only, or does hardware count too? [04:28] hrm [04:28] actually Im not sure on that [04:28] (fuzzy line, if you've got a purpose-built ASIC to do something like CSS descrambling... if the hardware's defined in Verilog or VHDL, is that "code"?) [04:29] if piracy is not a well defined term I wonder what one could do with the terminology "anti-piracy" on fbi warning logo [04:29] sQuEE (n=narya@host20.201-252-18.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [04:29] anyway I'm ignoring all those laws in protest of the supreme court's decision that code isn't speech (not covered by 1st amendment) [04:29] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn2@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] sup [04:30] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d75-158-165-33.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [04:30] hey nix_chix0r [04:30] I buy hardware, not steal it, and I buy stuff like movies or games (not steal them), and I will be damned if I won't play my movies/games on my own hardware as I see fit [04:30] hi [04:31] nix_chix0r: how's everything going? Did your son have his date? [04:31] i think so i think it went well [04:31] i just uploaded a video of him smiling then puking lol [04:31] and that includes making backup copies so my $$$ investment isn't depending on a single fragile piece of easily-duplicated media [04:31] Haha sounds like a great day. :) [04:31] lf4: http://tinypic.com/r/1z4bgg0/3 take a peek it's hillarious [04:32] Urchlay: Copying for back-up use to not be illeagle (not sure now). [04:32] lf4: the exact same techniques and mods you'd do for "piracy" are the same ones you'd have to do for backups [04:33] I mean, a "pirated" copy of a game is basically just someone else's "backup" copy [04:33] Urchlay: well, ignoring laws doesnt sound smart [04:33] lots of idealists in jail [04:34] y0 nix_chix0r [04:34] hihi [04:34] Urchlay: Yeah I know which makes things really stupid. nix_chix0r Awe something's wrong with my flash... I'll have to check it out once I get it working. [04:34] :( [04:34] pattwo (n=pat@d75-158-165-33.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [04:34] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [04:35] Topic changed on ##slackware by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 12.2 Released December 9, 2008 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: httpd,bind | -current is 13.0rc2 (20090806) | new official port: ARMedslack [04:35] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [04:35] nix_chix0r, your awake? [04:35] yes [04:35] pattwo (n=pat@d75-158-165-33.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:35] 0_o [04:35] isn't it early for you? [04:35] cool - RC2 is out [04:35] Slackware 13.0RC2 for you all to play with (including xorg updates) [04:35] i get home at like 1am [04:35] slackytude: I don't think the FBI is going to bother with me anyway. They want the guys who make money selling bootlegs, or possibly the ones who have massive collections of stuff they've downloaded. I'm talking about buying DVDs and playing them (and making a backup in case the original disc gets destroyed), I'm hardly on the most-wanted list... [04:35] http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 [04:36] nix_chix0r, ohhh [04:36] alienBOB: thx! [04:36] Urchlay: sure. but still, if someone really doesnt like you, there is a way to get you [04:36] slackytude: check that vid out [04:36] http://tinypic.com/r/1z4bgg0/3 [04:37] nix_chix0r: at work -_- [04:37] slackytude: *shrug*, that would be true no matter what I did [04:37] Urchlay: well, true [04:37] nobody's squeaky-clean and perfect (and even if they are, you can smear their character by starting rumors, even completely ridiculous ones) [04:37] some one watch it. it's hillarious:( [04:38] best video clip ever [04:38] :D totally [04:39] nix_chix0r: I'd swear he was holding it back, waiting for you to get closer... [04:39] "here comes that crazy lady with the camera, maybe I can hit her this time!" [04:40] i think so. just the way he was grinnin and i get in his face and he's like bleehhh [04:40] he turns 5mo on the 18th [04:40] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [04:40] yay, rc2 [04:41] more xorg updates, now I'm glad I didn't bother with the last round of them [04:42] comp__ (n=comp_@210.150.186.60) joined ##slackware. [04:42] oh right, the answer was xorg. way too easy [04:42] nix_chix0r, and puking.... [04:42] wintery_ (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) joined ##slackware. [04:42] edman007: he must like me [04:42] sahko: wait, what was the question? [04:42] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Client Quit [04:42] "What made nix_chix0r's baby vomit?" [04:43] nix_chix0r, you wake up every morning in a puddle of your own vomit? [04:43] must not have burped enough [04:43] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:43] edman007: it's the rock-n-roll lifestyle ;) [04:43] hahaha [04:43] any sudoers here? i'm having big trouble with the file syntax. [04:44] Urchlay: nevermind, just me mumbling [04:44] sudo do it yourself [04:44] edman007: haha [04:44] slava_dp: what are you trying to accomplish? [04:44] slava_dp: whats the question? [04:44] sudo make my boy a linux geek, 18 and out of the house but not too fast [04:44] I have about 10 minutes before I pass out (fair warning: advice given while I'm tired may not be all that great) [04:45] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.26.58) joined ##slackware. [04:45] nix_chix0r: lol xkcd has a funny sudo comic. [04:45] his laptop that sits in his room at night playing baby tunes has open bsd [04:45] ssh into the music server and play random tunes [04:45] Urchlay: good night then ^- [04:46] Urchlay: nighty night. [04:46] it must be 4:40AM or so, updatedb is chewing through my filesystems [04:46] nix_chix0r, your kid is going to grow up to be a paranoid security nut... [04:46] Urchlay: you +5GMT? [04:46] edman007: how so [04:46] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:47] central ftw shows are on earlier [04:47] lf4: I have no idea. We call it "eastern time", whatever that means [04:47] Urchlay: EST lol or EDT right now. Haha [04:47] nix_chix0r, you are sshing into his computer and messing with it without proper authorization, and the laptop runs openbsd...those are the guys that wrote ssh, and every single dev there is anal about security [04:47] I mean if Atlanta has "eastern time", what do we call the timezones in places like China? [04:48] edman007: i don't think he will get the wrong idea. he should grow up to love every type well except ubuntu [04:48] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] lf4, mine is set to EST5EDT [04:48] i have this currently and it's valid: user1 ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/local/eib/irtrans/irserver apache ALL=(user1) NOPASSWD:/usr/local/scripts/start.sh . my question is: can sudo -u user1 /path/to/start.sh be run from a php script as the apache user? currently i don't succeed. [04:48] haha true Urchlay china is around -7 or close to that. [04:49] edman007: nice [04:49] Nick change: ThomasLocke -> ThomasLocke_ [04:49] slava_dp: no, you need the apache user listed, not user1 [04:50] Nick change: ThomasLocke_ -> ThomasLocke [04:50] wait, is that supposed to be 2 lines of sudoers you pasted on one line? [04:50] yes [04:50] dous (n=dous@203.143.159.19) left ##slackware. [04:50] oh edman007 my parents got orders to illinois jan 2010 [04:51] leavin england hurray... now they will be only 7hrs away [04:51] orders? in the military? [04:51] yar my dad is in the airforce [04:51] ohh [04:51] nice [04:51] that's why i moved from belgium to the u.s [04:52] sloinn (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-smdpkcqqaufsfiwl) joined ##slackware. [04:52] so now you and your parents are both in the middle of nowhere! [04:52] they were like "your'e 18 bye, heres a suitcase and 100bucks lol" [04:52] where else maybe hostname set except of /etc/hosts ? [04:52] lol [04:52] haha edman007 i agree I lived in indiana that is no where. [04:52] I remember that I was setting it up during installation [04:52] my uncle got better orders, el paso for the next two years (unless they ship out) [04:52] my dad said 'You're 18, on your way to bootcamp. Here's 10 bucks. Call me when you finish boot' [04:52] and where i lived i wore shorts year round try moving to minnesota in december. [04:53] my suitcase wase worthless [04:53] had to purchase minnesota viking sweatshirt and sweatpandts lolol [04:53] Urchlay, i gave apache shell access for a test, sudo -u user1 /path/to/start.sh works and starts the contents of the script as user1. but if i call the same command from php it does nothing. [04:53] nix_chix0r, rofl [04:53] wintery (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:54] i don't care what any one thinks but absolutley no one looks good in a vikings getup [04:54] why do you live so far in the middle of nowhere, i don't think i would take a job that was more than 100 miles or so from the coast [04:54] slava_dp: hm. So your problem isn't your sudoers file anyway. [04:54] sloinn: /etc/rc.d/rc.M is where hostname is set. /etc/hostname is just a text file to hold the saved hostname [04:54] well now i can get a job as a disability examiner at social security that is my plan [04:55] alisonken1noc: eh, if my dad had done that, I would have taken the $10 and gotten on a bus, going as far away from dad (and from the army) as I could get [04:55] nix_chix0r, lol [04:55] couple more years where i'm working and i can work anywhere with a pretty hefty salary. 45k a year as it is very nice but if i made twice that it would be pimptastic [04:55] social security...you should do linux security [04:55] Urchlay: I had him sign my enlistment papers when I was 17 and halfway through senior year in h.s. [04:55] Urchlay, :-) looks like it. i had another solution in mind, to put a number of commands for apache to the sudoers file and put "sudo -u user1 etc..." into start.sh [04:55] alisonken1noc: ah, you actually wanted to go. That's different. [04:56] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:56] I wanted to get it out of the way. Ended up staying for 20 :) [04:56] Urchlay, and I had trouble with multiple commands in /etc/sudoers, that's why i said i have a problem with it. [04:56] s/20/21/ [04:56] alisonken1noc, ohh...thats too long... [04:56] time for bed i think need to go grant to some one else [04:56] like my cat [04:56] not really - retired at 38 and have a sysadmin job now [04:56] alisonken1noc: I would sooner be in jail than the military (you might have to fight in jail, but you don't have to kill... I have a problem with killing) [04:56] nix_chix0r, no sleep! [04:56] sleep==evil [04:56] edman007: you miss a day of meds and the voices come back and mess up your whole day [04:56] Urchlay: depends on the jail an g.p. [04:57] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [04:57] nix_chix0r, the voices keep me company [04:57] well, and being completely honest, I have a problem with authority, too... [04:57] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [04:57] some of those gangs inside are pretty nasty [04:57] why would i want the voices to leave? [04:57] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.253) left irc: No route to host [04:57] edman007: i was trying to work and i couldn't focus and my boss kept trying to make me eat cake and i was like i don't fucking want your cake:| [04:57] hahaha [04:57] she's trying to fatten me up like her [04:57] rofl [04:58] Urchlay: that's why I joined the Navy - chances of killing someone are pretty slim [04:58] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [04:58] probly I wouldn't survive either jail or being in the military... [04:58] i swear edman007 for the past three weeks of working she ate at mcdonalds every time [04:58] the angus burger they have and a large sweet tea [04:58] alisonken1noc, nah...they kill lots and lots of people, they just keep their distance, stay in international waters and launch tomahawks [04:58] Action: slackytude wants caker [04:58] Action: slackytude wants cake [04:58] sigh [04:58] nix_chix0r, hahahaha [04:58] alisonken1noc: thanks, I forgot that it's /etc/HOSTNAME and not /etc/hostname [04:59] slackytude: the cake is a lie [04:59] oh noes! [04:59] sloinn (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-smdpkcqqaufsfiwl) left irc: "Page closed" [04:59] it looked awesome slackytude red velvet but like i just ate dinner and didn't want her damn cake [04:59] edman007: the time I was in, I and the ships I served on may have been part of the war, but we never fired a shot [04:59] the only shots we fired were of socal for training [04:59] she is just a pushy jehova [04:59] s/of/off/ [04:59] nix_chix0r, is this her -> http://www.foodfacts.info/blog/2009/07/bk-scooter-drive-thru-pics.html [04:59] a nice woman and all but just yeah [04:59] the only possible way they could have recruited me would have been to guarantee I could go in the air force and be a fighter pilot... but even when I was in high school I was cynical enough to know that recruiters' "guarantees" are fake (and realistic enough to know my reflexes wouldn't cut it in flight training) [05:00] edman007: and btw - no, we don't stay in international waters [05:00] roflcopter [05:00] alisonken1noc, oh, well when we attacked iraq they did a lot of missile launching [05:00] at the beginning, yes. but not all ships in the navy were part of that [05:01] you can always sign up for a trade in the support industry and end up on a resupply ship [05:01] edman007: the voices are like being in a crowded room and every one is having a billion converstions at once. and no one is truly around you because at night i work with two other people and it's dead quiet [05:01] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.83.172) joined ##slackware. [05:01] even if you were accepted to pilot training, the type of aircraft isn't even considered until you're in your last month of training (that's a part of what I did in the air force) [05:01] unless you were a reservist [05:02] up until the last part of training, you're pretty much just general training anyway. of course, if I was going to fly, I'd be looking at rotary wing anyway [05:02] nix_chix0r, i like it like that [05:02] either that or a greyhound supply plane for a carrier [05:02] i could probally get a job on the base and make my mom buy me groceries at the commisary:P hooray for tax free foodz [05:02] quasar: I bet even the guys who fly the slow transport planes need perfect vision and amazing hand-eye coordination... I probably couldn't fly a plane better than I can drive a car, and I suck at driving :( [05:02] edman007: you're insane . it drives me insane i can't focus [05:03] actually, I take that back.. the MDS specific model isn't selected until your last month of training.. half way through (after flying around in a T6/T37 for a few months) you go either T38 (fighter/bomber) or T1 (cargo/transport) [05:03] nix_chix0r, put on some music [05:03] or something [05:03] (OTOH, being bad at driving keeps me from being tempted to drive drunk: I'm not one of those guys that thinks "I'm such a good driver, it won't matter") [05:03] i do at work sometimes but today especially i had to do a lot of appointments over the phone [05:03] when i'm not doing appeals on the phone i put the music on [05:04] they keep switching me to different offices around the building and i feel like milton on office space [05:04] hopefully i stick to this one [05:04] Action: quasar hands nix_chix0r some velcro strips [05:05] tomorrow i have to come in early because we are testing and or training on the new wireless headsets(like that's hard) [05:05] and some new phone system that's all through the computer [05:05] nix_chix0r, and watch, someone forgot to charge them [05:06] the office i'm in has a wireless set, and i got a call transfered to me with out warning and it automatticlaly picked up and i had a woman screaming at me [05:07] it's hard to tell some one that has a serious illness that the average wait time for a hearing in minneapolis is 22months [05:07] your job sounds fun [05:07] Urchlay: they all do, sorry I just saw what you said.. there is a "correction limit" (something like correctable to 20/40) that they have to have for either, beyond that it depends on the aircraft and whether or not they can get a waiver.. as for the cargo guys, they have autopilot that can land the aircraft so I wouldn't worry about 'em much lol [05:07] lulz, cubicle slut =p [05:07] linux_probe, oh, thats a good one [05:08] i would normally just call it "phone bitch" [05:08] hello mrs. nix_chix0r =p [05:08] i'll stand by that linux_probe my husband works there [05:08] ;) [05:08] :) [05:08] i'm no phone bitch i have a real job lmao [05:08] i don't work at a call center [05:08] good to see you talk here still [05:08] and I wouldn't be able to be a pilot either.. colorblind.. had a grand time in simulators though lol [05:08] werd [05:09] i dont talk on freenode at all, idle all over mostly [05:09] i gota go spoon him in a minute just having a smoke [05:09] i see :) [05:10] he's like i wont be mad if you do. meaning you better [05:10] dont forget to beat hubby on the head with a spoon too =p [05:10] i can't get him into slackware [05:10] he stands by gentoo [05:10] found a solution. exec('bash -c "sudo -u user1 /usr/local/scripts/start.sh"') works. [05:10] >_> meh [05:11] i've tried for nearly a year lol he wouldnt' even use zenwalk [05:11] slava_dp: why do you need to execute sudo through bash? [05:11] nix_chix0r: have you tried "sudo" on him? :) [05:11] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.39.139) left irc: Connection timed out [05:11] lawl [05:12] win 25 [05:12] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:12] i will try that [05:12] catch 22 [05:12] tewmten, because if i execute sudo directly from a php script it does not work. [05:12] aight [05:13] sQuEE (n=narya@host20.201-252-18.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [05:14] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:16] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [05:20] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-180-181.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[05:35] I have this issue with cvs over extssh: cvs commit: failed to create lock directory for `/var/lib/cvsroot/CVSROOT' (/var/lib/cvsroot/CVSROOT/#cvs.history.lock): Permission denied [05:35] people are talking about SElinux issue, which slackware doesn't have [05:36] local permissions are set correctly... [05:36] Only time I ever saw anything about SElinux was when I installed CentOS a while back. [05:36] i remember it from redhat [05:39] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:39] yes, that's the thing nobody remember because one can't understand that properly [05:40] How do you send a message in IRSSI to a user on a different server? [05:40] lol sloin is that a double neg? [05:40] ctrl+x && /query username [05:41] or /msg username [05:41] Thanks sahko :) [05:42] lf4: I can't get no satisfaction [05:42] Haha nice [05:43] /msg -server username [05:44] re [05:45] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-jgzvaxwkfhpydohs) left irc: [05:48] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl5-180-181.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:48] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-180-181.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:48] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [05:49] wintery (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) joined ##slackware. [05:50] so, are there any free alternatives to skype and magicJack? [05:51] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:51] no [05:51] define free [05:51] nor AINFLWONW [05:51] without cost [05:51] dfh [05:51] oops [05:51] skype is free [05:51] i fell asleep [05:51] google talk [05:51] but its sw isnt foss [05:51] gtalk? [05:51] is that ready yet? [05:51] it has to be FOSS? [05:51] Quiznos: i asked, define free [05:51] i answered [05:51] twice [05:51] what are you, some kind of freetard? [05:51] you said without cost, you did not say open source [05:51] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:51] nods :) [05:52] spook yes i did; on the next line i had [05:52] no you didnt [05:53] ok. [05:53] foss too. [05:54] ahh, lunch break [05:54] the one glimmer of freedom per day [05:54] yeah [05:55] i think i will go for lunch soon [05:55] damnit i have to stay here until 16:30 [05:55] 17:15 ;_; [05:58] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:58] Nick change: Zordrak_ -> Zordrak [05:59] wintery_ (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:04] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. 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I'll have to go read on up on that, this is my first hearing of it lol [06:16] ok [06:16] it's not a well-known factor to the general population [06:16] afaik [06:17] it's just one more factor in the over-all health of us and everything else [06:17] what will be the next? 13.0rc3 or 13.0? [06:17] check the Changelog max [06:17] wintery_ (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) joined ##slackware. [06:18] quasar i found a rss of earthquake notices; happening everyday! [06:19] 3 in the past 24h iinm; 3 the day before [06:20] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:21] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [06:21] I used to have an application that showed me, forget what it was called though.. I used it mostly for weather alerts here since I dont watch the local channels and dont have an outlet for a weather radio in this room lol [06:21] rc3 will only be if there's major issues with rc2 - otherwise it'll go to 13.0 [06:21] quasar yes; oh btw the 3 count is for quakes >5 mag [06:21] alice_c: yay [06:23] sloin (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-vbvkhjmuovdqikyr) left irc: "Page closed" [06:23] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:23] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:25] oops [06:30] wintery (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:33] Where is the xfce menu file loacted again? [06:34] znuzzy (n=mike@74.77.18.63) joined ##slackware. [06:34] good question [06:35] maybe the DOCUMENTATION would know [06:36] no [06:36] lol or $find helps :) [06:36] do you think that's what documentation is there for? [06:36] well think again mister! [06:36] apparently the man files for xfce4 was not included on this system. :P [06:37] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host224-64-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:38] have i to wait much time for 13.0rc2 -> 13.0 as of 13.0rc1 -> 13.0rc2? [06:40] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host224-64-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:41] maxote: you can safely use slackware-current [06:41] spook, thanks [06:42] pat is on holidays or something [06:42] but rc2 and 13.0 release will be ready and released, when they are ready. [06:43] rc2 is ready [06:43] true story, in fact, RC2 just came out today :) [06:43] cool [06:44] of course, they couldn't wait until I had KDE 4.3 packaged -_- [06:44] Action: edman007 slaps wire-anti for having identity problems [06:44] hasn't filtered through to my mirror yet. [06:45] edman007: what [06:45] its kernel is 2.6.29.6 , is there any backports of ext4 from 2.6.31 for 2.6.29.6 ? [06:46] lol. [06:46] 2.6.29 has stable ext4. [06:46] what exactly do you need? [06:46] wire-anti, nick changing is a crime... [06:46] spook, looking for ext4's changes between 2.6.29.6 and 2.6.31 (e.g bugfixes) [06:47] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:47] thats why its 2.6.29.*6* [06:48] compare the changelogs [06:48] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) got netsplit. [06:48] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [06:48] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [06:48] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.117) got netsplit. [06:49] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.117) returned to ##slackware. [06:49] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [06:49] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [06:49] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) returned to ##slackware. [06:49] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433276.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:08] hi [07:08] Nick change: Benjsh -> James__ [07:08] I am getting sqlite3 problem [07:08] 'lo [07:08] can someone help me to fix it [07:09] _sqlite3.so is missing [07:10] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:12] wow 13rc2 yay ... . [07:13] huh? [07:13] Oo(wrong channel)Oo [07:14] chb: ?? [07:14] importerror: no module named _sqlite3 [07:15] nvm [07:15] init[1]» nm - I was "cross reading" 2 channels - yup sorry [07:15] Nataliaa (i=l3et@41.236.13.47) joined ##slackware. [07:16] chb: np,chill. .:) [07:19] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:20] wintery (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) joined ##slackware. [07:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:22] James__: did you compile python or are you using a packaged one? [07:22] i tried both [07:22] and now i just downloaded python 2.6.2 and configure make make install [07:23] but still error [07:23] :( [07:23] isn't there some sqlite3.so.X ? :) [07:24] rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:24] nope [07:24] i keep getting error [07:24] importerror no modules named _sqlite3 [07:24] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:26] rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:26] sqlite3 package is installed too, yes? [07:26] yes [07:27] i tried both the slackware package [07:27] and manually [07:27] and still error [07:27] Channel flood from James__ -- kicking [07:27] :( [07:27] James__ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:27] James__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:27] where have you looked for that ,so [07:27] James__: which sqllite? [07:27] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.83.172) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:27] sqlite3-3.6.4-i486-1kjz.tgz [07:27] James__: that's a python package, though [07:28] and pysqlite-2.5.5 that i install manuallty [07:28] manully [07:28] cannot ? /usr/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/_sqite3.so? [07:28] rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:28] oh [07:28] ok [07:28] nope no file [07:29] wintery__ (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) joined ##slackware. [07:29] and slackware version is? [07:30] and why 2.5.5 still? [07:30] ok, work :) [07:30] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-192-041.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:36] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:37] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:39] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [07:39] morn TwinReverb [07:40] wintery (i=soloz@83.238.168.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:41] quasar, 'sup? [07:41] rworkman, alienBOB ping [07:41] just reading over the CVE that I just got for fetchmail and pondering if it effects any of my systems lol [07:41] when in doubt, it does [07:42] 8-) [07:42] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [07:43] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] wintery (n=q3@game.satkol.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:44] oh I'll upgrade it either way.. I'd just like to know if its something I should stop my KDE 4.3 package building for or if it's something that can wait.. from the looks of it, it can wait [07:44] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [07:44] mindbndr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.28) joined ##slackware. [07:45] i'm hoping someone comes out with a HOWTO for putting both slackware 13.0 and slackware64 13.0 on the same dual layer DVD [07:45] giving you a choice on which to boot into the install of [07:45] that would be p1mp [07:46] that would [07:47] so if this is 13.0-rc2, what is the traditional way to test it? do they prefer that the user accomplish a clean install and go from there? [07:47] AFKisAFK (n=StasiPro@75.138.78.87) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:47] AFKisAFK (n=StasiPro@75.138.78.87) joined ##slackware. [07:48] TwinReverb, use a dual-sided dvd. [07:48] TwinReverb, it's little bit complicated, it requires grub or lilo in the CD's bootloader [07:48] that's what I typically do on my test machine.. but on others I typically just upgrade once it's official [07:48] rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:48] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [07:49] maxote: syslinux also has an option for selecting images at boot, so it wouldn't be that hard [07:49] well my machine is my "test" machine but that's because i have an external hard drive. [07:49] imo, either way, testing is testing.. a lot of folks upgrade so why not test the upgrade and the clean install? [07:49] by boot image do you mean only the kernel? because surely one would need more than just that.... [07:50] granted i don't want to have to download /source [07:50] almost separated scripts (ones for 32-bit and another for 64-bit) should be merged with checkings of the current running platform [07:52] well if you cut KDE out wont both fit on the same regular DVD? [07:52] what's the command to identify if the current kernel is 32 or 64 bit? [07:52] if you cut out /source it fits in 1.4GB [07:52] maxote: uname -a [07:52] 1.4G /home/slackware-current [07:53] 1.4G /home/slackware64-current [07:53] i'm basically trying to see if i can trick k3b or growisofs into burning it to a dual layer DVD [07:54] so as if [ $(uname -a | cut -d ... ) -eq 32 ]; then ... ??? [07:54] no not like that afaik [07:54] i mean like it asks you which you want, and you boot into it then as if it is its own DVD [07:54] like having two DVDs on one [07:54] Do i need gnome for Brasero? [07:55] or is having gtk enough? [07:55] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:55] gtk/gtk+ _should_ be enough [07:55] or so as if [ $(uname -a | cut -d... ) == i686 ]; then ... ; else if if [ $(uname -a | cut -d... ) == x86-64 ]; then ... ??? [07:56] depending on the platform, most x86 class machines will run 32-bit on a 64-bit computer, so the same bootloader should be fine. then it would just be a matter of selecting slackware or slackware64 to install [07:56] maxote: disreguard my suggestion I did not see all that you wanted to do. [07:58] i wanted to reduce the number of scripts and commands independently of the platform (for 32 and 64 bit) [07:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [07:59] create a boot dvd with slackware, then the only mod would be the initial "install slackware/slackware64" optoin [07:59] hi [07:59] ho [07:59] how do i find every folder with a name of "panos: and list each file in it ? [08:01] 'find . -name panos | xargs ls -l' might work. just don't be in the root directory where /sys and /proc are searched [08:02] the -l would say long format, but you can just say ls for names only [08:03] man [08:03] Im sitting here and its boring [08:04] maybe I should work something productive or so [08:04] slackytude: lol what are you doing? [08:04] kstars is in kdeedu, right? [08:04] Im at work [08:04] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:04] but doing a lot of little crap stuff [08:04] slackytude: What is your job? [08:05] I work at a software house. Im supposed to provide customer service, manage the customer DB, maintain the CRM software and write a new one [08:05] and mop the floor onmce in a while [08:06] Nataliaa (i=l3et@41.236.13.47) left irc: No route to host [08:06] Oh I see [08:06] oh, yeah, somehow Im getting called for network / computer troubles as well [08:06] and I have a deadline for december [08:06] having flashplayer in extra/ for 64-bit makes me sad inside [08:07] slackytude: whats the deadling for? [08:07] thrice`: how come? [08:08] because it's about the worst software for linux available :) [08:08] nheco (n=nheco@201-41-15-230.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:09] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.38) joined ##slackware. [08:09] thrice`: have you seen the latest xkcd comic? lol http://xkcd.com/619/ [08:09] You'll probably like it. [08:09] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.38) left irc: Client Quit [08:10] lol [08:10] razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [08:12] lf4: the new crm [08:12] lf4: customer managment software for internal use [08:12] coz the old is crap [08:13] Makes sense :) what are you programming it in? [08:13] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.54.97) joined ##slackware. [08:13] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:14] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [08:15] lf4: python + qt [08:16] Im pretty free in that, wich is nice [08:16] Nice [08:17] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:18] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) joined ##slackware. [08:19] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:25] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [08:25] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:25] imarambiocatan__ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. 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[08:33] ah, ok [08:34] I could check with my order [08:36] That would be helpful, because here is part of the emails showing the two different charges. http://pastebin.com/d1c16081f [08:37] lf4: give me a moment, Im not at my usual computer for the nexxt two and a half weeks [08:38] some crappy old xp machine with 512mb ram [08:38] slackytude: Oh thats no problem :) Thanks for checking. [08:38] haha nice [08:38] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:39] lf4: not really, it sucks [08:39] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:40] I have not seen a system with 512mb of ram running for a long time. Haha its always been when replacing them. [08:40] havent either. thats partly the reason why Im not really productive atm ^-^ [08:41] slackytude: haha why are you on that system instead of the usual? [08:44] lot of people arent here, atm. so I'm replacing someone else. afterall Ive got time till dec [08:45] Ahh so you are all round handy man at the company. :) Can do anything from janitoral work and up. Good job security. [08:45] Action: slackytude nods [08:46] I like to work here and as I said its rather small so you have to be flexible [08:46] just right now its garbage [08:47] no window here either [08:47] Thats good you like working there. I wish I could say the same about my work lol. [08:47] lf4: whats yours? [08:48] I use Keynote to monitor AT&T's website. [08:48] Basically sit and do nothing until an alert from the software on a script failing. lol [08:49] eh [08:49] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kfnigcjhexyhpkeu) joined ##slackware. [08:50] lf4: so its either totally boring or uber stressy? [08:50] v4nelle (n=van@78-113-70.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Connection timed out [08:50] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-44-67-19-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:50] v4nelle (n=van@78-113-70.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Haha sorta we have an SLA time of 20 mins at first it was worrying but now we understand it better we gather all the data with in 10 mins. [08:52] Funny thing is I was quized on *inx commands and perl scripting when we are all windows based and don't need perl. *shurgs* [08:53] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:55] wintery (n=q3@game.satkol.pl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:58] wow , cmus is really cool app for a terminal guy and along with screen ..... awesome .. [09:01] lf4: they wanted a resourceful guy, I guess [09:01] yeah [09:01] lf4: but it's a waste of talent [09:02] someone found another bug in the cms [09:02] *sigh* [09:02] err, crm [09:03] the app that ate data [09:03] thumbs: Haha no kidding, during the interview they said "Since your on fire with these, I'm going to throw a curve ball." lol oh well its a contract job. [09:03] film at 11 [09:05] init[1]: cmus looks really cool :) finally something decent for a CLI music player. [09:06] lf4: yea , [09:06] cmus? [09:06] cmus is ancient ;) [09:06] ncurses based music player [09:06] thumbs: lol new to me :) [09:06] thrice`: even unix is ancient [09:06] :) [09:07] :> [09:07] heh, vim linke commandos [09:07] sold! [09:07] thrice` is ancient [09:08] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:08] hey do try out cmus [09:08] almost like irssi controls [09:08] thumbs: I was thinking that too. [09:08] I shall look for cmus on sbopkg [09:09] init[1]: Yeah I noticed :) irssi, screen, and cmus I think will be my standards for any system now. [09:09] gtludwig (n=gustavo@189.114.200.129.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:09] hey all [09:10] hey gtludwig [09:10] foof .. just unloaded notify.pl from irssi, creating trouble withou X [09:11] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [09:11] hi everyone [09:11] is there anything special i need to do to upgrade to current? [09:11] u need slackpkg [09:12] yeap [09:12] i mean apart from using a mirror from current [09:12] what are you using now? 12.2? [09:12] yes [09:12] nope, just be certain to merge the config files afterwards, and take care of the kernel update [09:12] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:13] anything to blacklist? [09:13] or anything needs to be done in particular order? [09:13] yeah, basically a slackpkg update, slackpkg install-new and slackpkg upgrade-all [09:13] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:14] ok, thanks [09:14] let' [09:14] s see.. [09:14] and slackpkg new-config (if you ever get to this step x_x) [09:15] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) joined ##slackware. [09:15] slava_dp, isnt that what slackpkg do in the final part ? [09:15] and clean-system to get rid of old crap [09:15] thrice`++ [09:15] some xorg stuff is now dead [09:15] yes, i know all that stuff [09:15] is there any auto daily created .iso snapshot? [09:15] i meant things to watch [09:15] like aaa packages [09:15] or other stuff [09:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:16] clean-system , blacklisting the packages u really want to keep [09:16] s/daily/weekly( [09:19] maxote: weekly, from slackware.no [09:19] zx10k1: slackpkg should disregard that one for you [09:19] thanks thrice` [09:19] unofficial media, of course, but Pat tends to keep the -current tree in order so that it will always work well for installing snapshots [09:20] razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:22] v4nelle (n=van@78-113-70.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:24] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [09:37] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[09:55] mindbndr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.28) left irc: "leaving" [09:56] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] gtludwig (n=gustavo@189.114.200.129.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:01] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [10:04] tloktlok (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [10:04] fucking hell! [10:04] whats with the language? [10:04] :/ [10:04] this guy at office wont help us with emacs!!! [10:04] who are you? [10:04] tewmten: :D [10:04] hihi [10:04] i'm wondering why are we paying him [10:05] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-42-82-255-116-182.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:05] gmail's certificate has expired :/ [10:05] for anyone else? [10:07] nope [10:07] well, im using google apps [10:07] maybe different cert [10:07] hi acidchild [10:07] says it expires today ;/ [10:07] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:07] well i already typed my password in.. so fingers crossed i didn't just get fscked. [10:07] i did go to gmail.com though. [10:07] and my dns is 4.2.2.2 [10:08] the mail.google.com cert you mean? [10:08] no. [10:08] https [10:08] https://mail.google.com/mail/ [10:08] aha [10:08] it was only valid for 1 year :/ [10:08] because im looking at the cert here and it says it expires on 2010-03-25 [10:09] tloktlok (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:09] yeah this one is also, but its still valid [10:09] OH! LOL [10:09] i forgot to ntpdate [10:09] .. [10:09] we just had the power turned off for something to be fixed. [10:09] Nick change: jumperbo1 -> jumperboy [10:09] and my mobo has no bios battery :/ [10:10] well there's your problem! [10:10] how you doing? [10:10] oh i have my ups and downs [10:10] lowl a draggon fly just banged in to my window [10:11] yeah :) [10:11] yesterday i saw a train bang in to a guy and splattering him everwhere [10:11] i didn't lol [10:11] acidchild: sounds like a layer 8 problem ^- [10:11] âlmost noobfarm worthy [10:12] :P [10:12] tewmten: you didn't? [10:12] gf's dad found a dude hanging from a bridge yesterday [10:12] suicide.. ... [10:12] railway bridge, he's doing rail replacement or summat. [10:13] oy [10:13] yes i did.. the metro train i was on was standing still between platforms and i just saw that guy getting splattered by another train [10:13] *shivers* [10:13] damn, Im on noobfarm [10:13] yeah, was one of the intercity trains, they're huge and go pretty damn fast.. [10:14] Dominian, you about? [10:14] tewmten: ouch [10:14] yeah... i was on a virgin train that hit a woman going to scotland. [10:14] tewmten: suicide or accident [10:14] well, shit is, later i find out that in the other car on the train i was in, there was a class with like 15 or 20 kindergarden kids [10:14] who also had to see that shit [10:14] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [10:14] slackytude: i think it was suicide.. [10:14] ugly [10:14] urg, atleast a railway bridge is private. [10:14] because it was nothing in the newspaper about it [10:15] did they send in the hazmat people? [10:15] they call suicides "traffic disturbance" to the public [10:15] :/ [10:15] cold [10:15] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) joined ##slackware. [10:16] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) left irc: "Leaving" [10:16] i dont know, i dont really have the stomach to look at that shit, i left as soon as i could get off the platform [10:16] is it blood or the fact its a person? [10:16] theblackbox: nah its to not encourage other people to do it.. [10:16] Nick change: shik4nt4z4 -> m4lik [10:16] or that you where involed in a traffic distrubance [10:16] rofl ;x [10:17] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] acidchild: well i think its more the fact that he was not longer in one piece [10:17] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:17] that kind of disturbs my inner peace as well [10:17] i saw the body from the torso and up, the rest.. i have no idea where the fuck that went [10:18] yeah fuck it, switch subject [10:18] im getting bad vibes just thinking of it now.. [10:18] tewmten, good point.... wonder why the same isn't extended to public shootings like in high schools! saw a clip from Newsnight ("respected" news program here in the uk) where they were interviewing a criminal psychologist and asked for his advice on how the media should deal with it, and the guy pointed out that they had already broken three of the most important rules =S [10:18] yah... started making me think about landmine victims. [10:18] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [10:19] i have to make a phone call [10:19] bbl [10:19] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] theblackbox: I'm around [10:20] tewmten: you need a peace pipe filled with relaxation:> chin up [10:20] Dominian, hi, just wondering about your mailserver setup and the postfix database - how is the password encrypted for storage in db? [10:21] theblackbox: md5 iirc [10:21] it uses the built in md5 option with mysql I believe [10:22] theblackbox: the management interface is postfixadmin and their documentation should outline that [10:22] I expected as much, just wanted confirmation... ahh, not got quite used to postfixadmin yet [10:22] cheers [10:22] :) [10:22] no owrries [10:24] Dominian: if you haven't noticed yet - SCO now get's a chapter 11 trustee [10:25] eh [10:26] Didn't they go out of business yet? [10:26] not yet - but it's getting closer now [10:26] good [10:27] the ruling basically means that within the next 30 days, the management is out and a trustee takes over business operations and reports to the bk judge [10:27] anyone use squirrel mail? http://www.h-online.com/security/SquirrelMail-password-modules-infiltrated--/news/113920 [10:28] alisonken1noc: hrm [10:28] alisonken1noc: ahh I don't use those modules :) [10:29] alisonken1church, gutted, thanks for that - was just adding the change_pass plugin [10:30] heh [10:30] ;) [10:30] theblackbox: well, I'm not at home right now, but the nick works here as well :) [10:30] np [10:31] gonna have to change my passwords though, I had it installed for half the day =S [10:31] elkng (n=wnb@78-24-228-104-gprs.vntc.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:33] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:33] DebiEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:34] acidchild: submitted to noobfarm [10:34] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:35] i just found 50$ under my fridge while looking for a rolling paper [10:35] :') tear of joy [10:36] did you skin up with the fi'ty? [10:36] Wiren (i=Wiren@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [10:36] haha no! but i did find a rolling paper right next to it too! :D [10:36] lol [10:37] Dominian: do you remember my noobfarm login/password? [10:37] anyone recommend a webmail client then, squirrelmail has bitterly dissapointed me and I don't like these security issues one bit [10:37] anyways brb, gonna roll a nice phatty with my lucky paper [10:37] lol [10:37] Action: theblackbox rearranges the chairs to sit on acidchild's left ;) [10:38] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc2" [10:38] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.21.141) joined ##slackware. [10:39] LOL [10:40] phzin (n=s2@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [10:40] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:41] Action: acidchild passes [10:41] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [10:43] brixton- (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [10:44] alisonken1noc: You didn't have one did you? [10:44] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:44] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:44] Dominian: I thought I did last year - but now that I think about it, I believe it was on testing and not production site [10:45] ahhh yeah [10:45] probably testing [10:45] no biggie then [10:45] alisonken1noc: it was the dev site when you were going to work on the pagination [10:45] can some one write a patch for notify.pl script for irssi, so that it use notify only when im on X, [10:45] alisonken1noc: in fact it is time to add another quote admin to the site [10:45] alisonken1noc: want the job? hehe [10:45] Dominian: sure - I get some time in the wee early hours of darkness :) [10:46] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [10:46] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: "Leaving" [10:46] queue offtopic freak out in 3...2.... [10:46] 1.... [10:46] OMG guys you are off topic [10:46] init[1]: X = channel AND OR private message? X = server/network? [10:47] AFKisAFK: have something to share? [10:47] gtfo [10:47] acidchild: X server [10:47] nah, lets keep talking about smoking crack cocaine in a doobie [10:47] Oh! do you run localy? [10:47] acidchild: yes [10:47] acidchild: yeah some people apperantly still do that ;) [10:47] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:48] Action: acidchild looks at notify.pl [10:48] omg! i have dirty irssi window now :/ [10:48] agris2 (n=agris@213.226.141.123) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:48] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:49] pass da crack on your left hand side [10:49] no no no - the OTHER left side :) [10:49] crackhead thinks he has 3 arms [10:50] BP{k}: i only have one machine! [10:50] AFKisAFK your fucking ignorant. [10:50] acidchild, and offtopic [10:50] which is worse [10:50] no, out of context. [10:51] Action: theblackbox passes [10:51] out [10:51] im out of context! [10:51] I did this mistake. In .ssh there was the config file. having a file manager in sudo mode, i deleted it and restored the conf file from a previous backup. the thing is that is not able to modify it, some permissions are bad [10:51] init[1]: http://lewk.org/blog/irssi-notify ? [10:52] seems to go to gtk-dialog-info, just change the system() [10:52] Keiffer, so fix the .ssh [10:52] [##slackware] libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch error: X120:20 < acidchi [10:52] :/ [10:52] AFKisAFK, how? [10:52] ew. [10:53] Keiffer, man chmod [10:53] try xmessage? [10:53] acidchild: it doesn't blend with xfce [10:54] do you have dbus running? [10:54] acidchild: no .. [10:54] try running it. [10:54] derp [10:55] acidchild:Im not running X now, what i want is to make notify.pl to be intelligent enough to understand that im not on X [10:55] James__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) left irc: [10:55] ok [10:55] derp [10:56] acidchild: right now notify.pl is in autorun directory,and i don't want remove notify.pl from autorun :), [10:57] yah i get you [10:59] crack is bad for you [11:00] it burns holes in your brain, beware... [11:00] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [11:00] anyone have any estimate of when will be launched the slack 13? [11:01] the of launch estimate any when will 13 slack be of tomorrow? [11:01] acidchild: i think,' If [ "ps -A -ubuffer |grep X" == true] continue' would work out [11:01] phzin: somtime between now and January 1st, 2015 I'm sure :) [11:01] since rc2 just came out the other day, I would guess sometime in the next month [11:01] init[1]: yah but abit dirty. [11:01] dec 21st 2012 [11:01] :) [11:01] quasar: I'm betting on before christmas this year :) [11:02] i'm writing it kill(SIGCHLD,$pid) [11:02] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:02] alisonken1church: you're probably going to be a lot closer than I am, but I'm taking the safer approach [11:02] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [11:02] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] quasar: I'll let you know when my subscription comes in [11:03] how much quicker do you get it with the subscription? [11:03] typically a week or two before the announcemnet [11:04] s/before/within/ [11:04] alisonken1noc: send me your email address and I'll get you a noobfarm account setup [11:04] asdfasdf@guerillamailblock.com [11:04] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:04] dont give him your real e-mail [11:05] this kid is such a fucking tard [11:05] darkjeff_ (n=darkjeff@201.91.187.141) joined ##slackware. [11:05] acidchild, what, im old enough to be your mother! [11:05] darkjeff (n=darkjeff@201.91.187.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:05] o_O [11:06] darkjeff_ (n=darkjeff@201.91.187.141) left irc: Client Quit [11:06] im pretty sure acid child is raging [11:06] new fetchmail! [11:07] http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2666 [11:07] hmmm [11:08] Hello, soon i am going to turn and old computer into router i am wondering what OS to install Slackware or FreeBSD [11:08] Action: init[1] awaiting for acidchild to complete the patch :) [11:08] link doesnt work [11:08] x1user: which one are you most familiar with? [11:08] i use slackware on all my currnet machines [11:08] x1user: which one are you most familiar with? [11:08] x1user, shorewall, clarkconnect, m0n0wall [11:08] init[1]: lol k lets see =P [11:08] openwrt x86 [11:09] x1user: I've got a router with slack 7 that's still running ifne [11:09] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:09] but i have always been curios about FreeBSD and i am looking for a proper way to stydi it [11:09] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.147.173) joined ##slackware. [11:09] acidchild: omg still didn't start o_O [11:09] at least better than my keyboard :) [11:09] init[1], why dont you do it yourself instead of waiting for crackhead [11:09] x1user : try them both, decide for yourself [11:10] AFKisAFK: im not familar with perl [11:10] :) [11:10] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.31.59) joined ##slackware. [11:10] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Client Quit [11:10] maybe i will use slackware because i will the idea to got vmware and run some virtual machines for testing [11:10] init[1], you underestimate yourself [11:10] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.147.173) joined ##slackware. [11:10] x1user, what about virtualbox [11:10] o_O AFKisAFK [11:11] init[1]: http://septic.ziwall.net/~ash/notify-2009-08-06.pl.patch [11:11] wow [11:11] init[1], its not hard for you to fix a script...just try [11:11] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:11] AFKisAFK does it run on freebsd [11:11] didn't test it ;/ [11:11] np [11:11] x1user, oh i dont know, i think [11:11] i will announce the results .. [11:11] init[1], since you dont know perl, i'd have a trojan in the script [11:11] AFKisAFK: i appreciate your motivation [11:11] :) [11:11] nix_chix0r: lol just saw the video, your baby's cute :) [11:12] AFKisAFK: ooh [11:12] init[1]: meh, refresh. i put the files in the wrong order for the patch [11:12] root shell in perl with 1 line [11:12] well, my brain is intelligent enough to parse a perl script [11:12] connects to remote netcat [11:12] AFKisAFK: :) [11:12] i just want to have a machine that will got iptables snort some sniffers i will instal wlan card also, and i like the idea to have a virtual machine on this box so i can play with different things [11:13] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:13] oooh im fed up with with this dbus thingie :/ [11:13] do you really want a pc on all the time just to be a firewall [11:13] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:14] i want it to be a firewall but the machine got more potential P4 512 ram [11:14] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:14] i got interested in security so it might be usefull for penetration testing [11:16] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [11:16] well install freebsd if you want to learn it [11:16] Action: init[1] testing acidchild's patch . [11:17] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/nlxoWm14.html [11:17] atleast that one loads. [11:17] I've installed new xorg server and something messed up with xorg.conf now i cant startx ? [11:17] x1user: more info. please :> [11:17] you updated from which version what to what? [11:18] thrice`: fail to load modules i've tried xorgxonfig [11:18] nvidia card? [11:18] it's probably input related [11:18] simplifier (n=simplifi@117.136.12.38) joined ##slackware. [11:18] which version did you update to, and which from? [11:18] 1.6.6 [11:18] 12.2 -> -current? [11:18] 16.3 [11:18] 9999.9 [11:18] 1.21 with the latest kernel [11:19] but i've upgraded [11:19] absolutely none of those versions are right [11:19] the problem appeared after instaling the new x server [11:19] no shit [11:19] which did you update FROM ? [11:19] LANGUAGE [11:19] X -version gives 1.6.3 [11:19] yeah after latest updates my GLMatrix screensaver broked [11:19] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@66.33.206.8) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:19] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [11:19] 1.6.6, 16.3, nor 1.21 have ever been xorg-server reasons [11:19] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.147.173) joined ##slackware. [11:19] versions * [11:20] everytime i update my kernel, i gotta reinstall the nvidia driver.. always gives me module not found ;x [11:20] obviously, since you build the nvidia module agains tthe kernel ;) [11:20] DERP [11:20] sry typing mystake my slackware is 12.1 with the latest kernel 2.6.30.4 [11:20] thrice`: i know. [11:20] x1user: so, you're running slackware 12.1, but took packages from -current for xorg? [11:20] you ruined the magic of computers for me now! [11:20] :D [11:21] i've installed manual all the pakcages the new xorg wanted manualy, they are latest [11:21] init[1]: did that work lol? [11:21] that doesn't sound good [11:22] i manually did it manually [11:22] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [11:22] init[1]: always feel weird passing values in std in irssi. [11:22] thrice` i will play a little again with xorgconfig [11:23] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] acidchild, try college [11:23] x1user: on the newest xorg, you should have a VERY minimum (if any) xorg.conf [11:23] init[1]: [##Slackware] x1user: pasting your sh: xmessage: command not found [11:23] init[1]: :D [11:23] acidchild: hows it going? [11:23] pidof: command not found IDIOT [11:23] not bad :D yourself? [11:23] good, nicely blazed =D [11:23] AFKisAFK: STFU [11:23] XMESSAGE NOT FOUND [11:24] acidchild, CRACK HEAD FOUND! [11:24] Fails to load modules freetype and vga [11:24] acidkill: me too, someones ruining it for me though [11:24] children still do run free [11:24] Fatal server err no screen found [11:24] two drug addicts still run free [11:24] x1user: I fear you very much broke your x.org stack [11:25] x-server 1.6.3 needs a LOT of updated items outside of the server itself [11:25] acidkill: you BBQing this summer? [11:25] thrice`: xorg stack... of cards? [11:25] we need a slackware themed drug rehab [11:25] thrice` half an hour ago i've managed to run the startx with higher resolution but my kbd and pointing device wanot working so i run xorgconfig =/ [11:26] ive done a few small parties but nothing mentionable really....few painting and tile jobs as well. [11:26] thrice` i was installing a lot of things to get it ./configure without errs [11:26] neat [11:26] i want one of them bbq you made for the balconey [11:26] hehe [11:26] thinking about getting a cer for medical coding and getting more stable work, 35-40k/yr to start with that...but dunno [11:26] x1user: I'm saying, you shouldn't have anything related to input in your xorg.conf; x-server asks hal for these items on newer x-servers (like yours) [11:27] acidkill: medical coding? [11:27] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:27] he means making viruses [11:27] basically interpret what a doctor did into billable things that get billed to the insurer [11:27] ah cool, the whole E-health thing is big [11:28] learn to code RNA, sell nasties to baxter/novartis/merck/novavax they release nasties, and make money off "vaccine" [11:28] yea, thats the other side of it too....i REALLY hate corp IT shit and hate working for others even more, but times are hard [11:28] i could get into heathcare IT and do that, but god people are so fucking dumb [11:29] yeah i totally agree. [11:29] i cant stand that kind of environment [11:29] always someone to anwser to everyday [11:29] aaaaaa..... it nvr worked :/ [11:29] init[1]: the pasting i gave you? [11:29] im growing veggies too =D [11:29] awe, anything nice? [11:29] acidchild: thank you :) alfor your time spent [11:29] init[1], what did you expect from a crack head [11:29] Action: x1user dies [11:30] i dont know what to do [11:30] x1user, follow upgrade.txt [11:30] have tomatoes and peppers just starting to fruit and some herbs....this fall im going to sell some plants at a market out here that is kinda upscale and richer people frequent. see how that goe [11:30] AFKisAFK: pls alteast he helped me out, you could have done that instead , "Doing smthing is better than doing nothing" [11:30] s [11:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-250.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:30] init[1], i would help you by telling you to help yourself [11:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] elkng (n=wnb@78-24-228-104-gprs.vntc.ru) left ##slackware. [11:30] init[1]: whats your error? on load? or on trigger. [11:30] x1user: reinstall all the x* packages from the disc, first. [11:30] but i have learned i have good growing skills....so one day i will grow some good bud [11:31] xmessage not found.. smthing . [11:31] and some more [11:31] right, so look at the code. [11:31] on that day Ash Palmer will go to prison [11:31] xmessage is a bash command, a utility on your computer [11:31] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [11:31] A) install xmessage or B) change it to that dbus one (which i can't be arsed working out) [11:32] http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/system.html [11:32] xmessage doestn blend with xfce [11:32] acidchild: that is the script im using [11:32] acidchild: that is unpatched [11:32] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] wut [11:32] acidchild: check your dcc request :) [11:32] x1user: or from a mirror. [11:32] okey [11:33] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [11:33] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] init[1]: it all comes down to system(); system("notify-send -t 7500 \"".$title."\""." \"".$text."\""); [11:33] and if you want it to check for X to be running, add in the kill() part... pretty much anywhere [11:34] hm, yea getting you [11:34] 3 hours later [11:34] DERP [11:35] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.21.141) left irc: "Leaving." [11:35] * Now talking on ##slackware-druggies [11:36] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.31.59) left irc: "Leaving" [11:36] i made that channel for you [11:37] AFKisAFK: how sweet , [11:39] Action: init[1] wonders if AFKisAFK was born perfect :) [11:39] breakfast! 2 hardboiled eggs, 2 chicken apple sausages, 1 peach, 1 nature valley maple brown sugar granola, and a pot of black coffee [11:40] and your elbow [11:40] we were all born perfect [11:40] then ill smoke a fat bowl [11:40] who all the *we* [11:40] AFKisAFK: ^ [11:40] the elbow and i [11:40] I ignored him yesterday because he was annoying [11:40] humans [11:41] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [11:41] guys retarded, AFKisAFK didnt talk yesterday [11:41] Nick change: AFKisAFK -> SirBobDobbs [11:41] Action: init[1] applying Filter rules ..for AFKisAFK [11:41] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [11:41] wtf, SirBobDobbs ,aaaa there you go.. [11:41] wich package provides host command? [11:42] gabriel_: bind. [11:42] yep [11:42] oh thanks BP{k} [11:42] in /usr/bin/host [11:43] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.146) joined ##slackware. [11:43] dimmerbold (i=dimbold@masterarms.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] oh god they are talking about "cyber terrorism now" [11:43] already in place by the USA [11:44] well yeah, waiting for the right time to shutdown the internet and blame it on santa clause [11:44] then iPatriot act and new shitty internet [11:44] Action: ThomasLocke is away: Up up and away! [11:45] Did you guys see this? http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/08/modder-arrest-a-reminder-that-most-console-hacks-are-illegal.ars [11:45] lol [11:45] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [11:45] softmod is legal [11:46] Bad port 'umask 077; test -d .ssh || mkdir .ssh ; cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys' [11:46] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: Client Quit [11:46] that is what i get when ssh-copy-id [11:46] SirBobDobbs: only to a point... if you use it for USB HDD backup then its illegal. :) [11:47] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.31.59) joined ##slackware. [11:47] laws mean nothing if they cant be enforced [11:47] they always try to scare the rest of us by making examples of a few people [11:48] like Pat Tillman [11:48] SirBobDobbs: lol true, and I am still going to do mods no matter what. [11:49] you can also have great fun inventing new crimes that there are no laws against [11:49] Action: guax wonders if the build scripts for 4.2 will work on building 4.3 with no pain [11:49] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ibCSiR47.html [11:49] nice acidchild [11:50] eventually once you make calling someone an "asshole" on the internet illegal, the empire will soon collapse under its own beurocratic weight [11:50] guax: a couple items from l/ need bumping first, I think [11:50] Action: lf4 is home and its time to sleep. [11:50] lf4, but acidchild needs a friend [11:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [11:51] seems SirBobDobbs you need a friend. [11:51] no, i need to do penetration testing on umoms [11:51] you two can play with each other. [11:51] That was wrong timing [11:51] urg. [11:51] thrice`, i can still wait for oficial upgrade =P, but is good to now just in case my curiosity grows bigger then my lazyness. [11:52] lol [11:52] Has anyone tried installing boost on 64-current yet? [11:52] hahaha, as the use of anti-depressants increase the number of suicides increase [11:53] hiptobecubic: boost is in slackware these days, so yes [11:53] thrice`, oh is it? rats [11:53] i didnt knw that [11:53] doesn't boost come with slackware [11:53] sionce when [11:53] since kde4 needs it [11:53] yes it does [11:54] download LiveStation [11:54] get login from bugmenot.com [11:54] watch presstv! [11:55] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:55] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.159.74.6) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:56] system_guy (n=bnhashmi@64.208.214.225) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:57] Heeelp! SSH won't work ssh: Could not resolve hostname umask 077; test -d .ssh || mkdir .ssh ; cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys: Name or service not known [11:58] Keiffer what are you trying to do? [11:59] mancha, trying to set up ssh. with rsa keys [11:59] it seems to me you're trying to export your public key to a remote. your command line looks incomplete and or screwey [11:59] config configurated, keys wonderfully generated [12:00] i did ssh-copy-id me@computer [12:02] does computer allow passwd auth? [12:03] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:03] no, disabled it [12:03] anyone have any estimate of when will be launched the slack 13? [12:03] if enabled it does connect [12:03] it promts for it and done [12:03] ssh-copy-id is merely a way to automate plcing your pubkey on the remote's authorized_keys. but for this to happen you have to be able to login to remote, it does this via ssh with passwd auth [12:03] love working from home with vnc [12:04] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) joined ##slackware. [12:04] mancha, if i ssh me@computer i get Permission denied (publickey). [12:04] after the banner [12:04] Keiffer, chicken and egg, you can't have key-only auth before you install your pubkey [12:05] lol [12:05] just like you shouldn't change the lock on your doorunless you have the key to the lockfirst [12:06] mancha [12:06] AAAAAAAAA [12:07] anyone have any estimate of when will be launched the slack 13? [12:07] phzin: when it's done. [12:08] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:09] Ok. Am freakin' connected to myself. With password [12:09] but ssh-copy-id still makes errros [12:09] Keiffer: pardon me? [12:09] ok im confused [12:09] ? [12:10] ssh-copy-id should work now then if passwd auth is ok. why you;re doing it this way is a puzzle to me though [12:10] I said.why? [12:10] why? [12:12] wnb (n=wnb@78-24-228-104-gprs.vntc.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:12] wnb (n=wnb@78-24-228-104-gprs.vntc.ru) left ##slackware. [12:12] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:12] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [12:12] What are folks using for server room environmental monitors? [12:13] i vnc'd into work and vnc'd back to a remote host but one of them was in fullscreen with a view to the other one, so they both showed the same thing and.. [12:13] http://pastebin.org/6960 [12:13] SirBobDobbs: recursive VNC sessions? Fun! [12:13] couldnt hit ctrl + esc for start menu and ctrl + alt + del signal locked the screen of xscreensaver [12:14] thumbs, its fucked up! [12:14] you don't run ssh-copy-id _after_ ssh'ing manually. you run it and it'll connect for you [12:15] maybe you should just use telent :) [12:15] *telnet [12:16] ya ya.. making fun of a n00b? [12:16] what program will read a *.txt file to me? [12:16] so, how do i freakin set up tha freakin pubkey? [12:16] i told you yesterday [12:16] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Action: Zordrak cries. He just found out that LSI bought 3ware [12:17] Pa^2: There's this neat tool I found for that. It's made with mercury and glass. It's called a thermometer. [12:17] Zordrak: WTF?! Damn! [12:17] thumbs have date? [12:17] well this freankin ssh ate all my neuron. [12:17] That blows. [12:18] phzin: when it's done. [12:18] Alan_Hicks: aye.. my new servers havent even arrived yet with their shiny new 9250s and underneath me, LSI pulls the rug [12:19] How did I not hear about this sooner? [12:21] when i will figure out what the problem is, i will so blow up this freakin pc [12:21] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "bouncing system" [12:22] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [12:26] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [12:27] Alan_Hicks: i only discovered when i went to the 3ware site and the LSI logo is there [12:30] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [12:31] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [12:32] DUDES. unset SSH_AUTH_SOCK. that was the freakinf fking problem! [12:33] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:35] wow tommorow is really special, coz 07 aug 2009 at 12:34:56 am would be written as 12:34:56,07/08/09 [12:35] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:36] init[1]: for me it would be 2009-08-07 12:34:56 :( I'm not special. [12:36] init[1], yes. and i have my place in there. i'm such a 0 [12:36] nheco (n=nheco@201-41-15-230.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [12:37] Keiffer: you are from where i am? [12:37] init[1], it depends only where you are [12:37] :P [12:39] so? [12:39] Ro? [12:39] well it that didn't click your head ,its 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [12:39] s/it/if/ [12:40] -current rc2 x86_64 has KDE4.2.4 how is it? [12:41] mancha did i mentioned that i have a working ssh now? [12:42] * 4. STAY PARANOID * [12:42] I hope you learned now why it is important to become paranoid. [12:42] So stay paranoid. One mistake or lazy moment could suffice to ruin [12:42] Channel flood from acidchild -- kicking [12:42] your life or career. [12:42] acidchild kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:42] acidchild (i=ash@septic.ziwall.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] loowl [12:44] sorry :D [12:44] acidchild: Are you on acid? haha I am always paranoid <_< o_o >_> [12:44] "PC's are like Air conditioners , it stops working when you open Windows" Source -- internet [12:44] lf4: fine? :) [12:45] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:45] :D [12:45] dont air conditions work more when you open the windows? [12:45] they dont switch off [12:45] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [12:45] nooper: there is smthing like , max area they can cool . [12:45] when you open up windows, it works more [12:45] thrice`: nope I should be sleeping but I cant haha [12:46] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:46] result would be [12:46] urg, this paper is making me feel paranoid just reading it [12:46] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:46] overloaded AC, which reduces its life [12:47] Nick change: dhabyxc -> dhabyx [12:49] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: [12:50] rinovan (n=user@125.164.234.162) left irc: "Dukunglah Syariah & Khilafah, www.khilafah.com" [12:50] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:51] aaa "The silence of the slackware channel" [12:52] if we plot a activity graph of slackware channel we would get an analog signal ,:P [12:52] razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [12:52] that would be so easy to do rrdtools and perl [12:52] ;] [12:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:53] slackgraph.org [12:53] hehe [12:53] omg does that exist ? [12:53] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-196887.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:53] no [12:53] Action: aceofspades19 quickly registers all the remaining domains with slack in them [12:53] nvm [12:54] Hi Godaddy, can i have *slack*.* plz? [12:54] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:54] lol [12:54] godaddy atimes lies [12:54] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) joined ##slackware. [12:54] that this domains are in use , but if we pay more you may get it [12:54] slackyslackerliketoslack.us [12:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [12:54] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:55] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [12:55] slack.fm [12:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:55] slackware radio [12:56] slacker.com haha they almost right it right. [12:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:57] Action: aceofspades19 wonders if its possible to register all the domains with a certian word in it [12:58] Greetings everyone. :) [12:58] hey matey :) [12:59] hey aperturefever, how's it going? [12:59] fire|bird: you missed my evil plan [12:59] wb fire|bird [12:59] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:59] aceofspades19: a plot to rule the world? :) [12:59] thanks init[1] [12:59] fire|bird: pretty good here, getting ready for mandatory military service :/ [13:00] fire|bird: I was going to register all remaining domains that have slack in it [13:01] josefig (n=Anonymou@200.52.211.227) joined ##slackware. [13:01] aceofspades19: interesting, what would you do with them all, make them each page and say "GET SLACK ---> Download Now"? :D [13:02] fire|bird: thats the ??? in my plan [13:02] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) joined ##slackware. [13:02] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:03] 1. register all domains with slack in it 2. ??? 3. profit [13:03] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [13:03] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:03] hahaha, Steven Tyler (sp?) of Aerosmith was at sturgis performing, the sound system failed, he started dancing, and he fell off the stage. :P [13:03] bbl [13:03] later hitest [13:03] later fire|bird [13:05] aceofspades19: Well, at least you have part of the plan thought out. :) [13:07] i would like ask you a question [13:07] i've got a question * [13:07] fredoslack: Don't ask meta-questions (ie, ask to ask), just ask. We can't help you untill we know the prolbem. And try to explain exactly what the problem is, which Slackware version you're using, (if you use a pakcage where you got it from), what you were doing, etc [13:08] howdy BP{k}, how goes? [13:08] BP{k}: my question is: do i need a firewall with slackware ? [13:08] do there is a default firewall * [13:08] the need for a firewall is independent of the distrib you choose [13:09] fredoslack: a firewall is a good idea with any system you use, in slackware, there's iptables that you can set up, there's also some frontends to iptables to make configuring easier, but it's still a good idea to learn iptables. [13:10] ok [13:10] fredoslack: slackware comes with iptables to write your own firewall. if you create a file called /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall with the iptables rules, slackware will use that on startup. *need* is another question and depends, I am leaning to say "yes". [13:10] if you are on a 2.4.x+ kernel then you will set up iptables rulesets [13:10] BP{k} and fire|bird thinks you :) [13:10] even a very basic / generic iptables set of rules (from one of the cheesy auto-generated ones, even) help [13:10] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) joined ##slackware. [13:11] if you are pre 2.4.x then ipchains rules [13:11] a room so dead my connection drops [13:11] fire|bird: not bad :) hows things your side of the pond? [13:11] oh i was scrolled up [13:12] lol, ssh kept dropping my vnc tunnel because there was no data transfer or keepalive [13:12] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:12] BP{k}: doing great here, just trying to figure out dd to image my laptop, I tried last night with it, forgot to specify a bs= and after around 4 hours, it was only half done. :/ [13:13] :z [13:13] simplifier (n=simplifi@117.136.12.38) left irc: Connection timed out [13:13] so I cancelled it, it was time to go to bed and I shutdown my pc's every night. [13:13] so today, I start all over. :P [13:14] fire|bird: hehe. chalk it up to experience. ;) [13:14] BP{k}: So, I think I probably should specify a bs= this time, any other good options I should use? [13:15] why not use tar [13:15] oh yeah, experience for sure. :P [13:15] is it windows? [13:15] SirBobDobbs: yes [13:15] windows has dd :D [13:15] lf4: yeah, but can you dd from within the hdd you're trying to dd? [13:15] wow, that turned out good. :P [13:16] haha nice one fire|bird :) [13:16] aren't acronyms fun. :P [13:16] DEE DEEEE DEE [13:16] DERP DEET [13:16] fire|bird: are you trying to clone the drive for imagine or just backing up? [13:16] dd if=/path/to/winblows bs=1k conv=noerror,sync of=/path/to/file [13:17] use ntfsclone [13:17] lf4: I'm trying to clone it to an image as both backup and to use in qemu on my slack box. [13:17] mancha: thanks. [13:17] fire|bird: what about the live disk clonezilla? [13:18] What uid is 744? I moved a folder over to a different drive and all the files became owned by 744 and even as root I cant change anything or delete them [13:18] lf4: tried it, it doesn't make just one image, it makes a ton of files. :/ [13:18] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [13:18] grep 744 /etc/passwd [13:18] lf4: I found a way last night to combine those files, but it would be a lot larger file than what clonezilla made to begin with and it took forever. [13:18] ok well just use dd then [13:19] enable dma and 32bit io [13:19] fire, np [13:19] mancha, nothing.. [13:19] then no user [13:19] fire|bird: interesting from what I noticed CZ just used the dd command. [13:19] how do I delete/do anything to the files? I have no rites even as root [13:20] pwc101 (n=pwc101@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:20] lolwut: sudo :P [13:20] hey all [13:20] what does "move a folder over" mean here? [13:20] lf4: Well, maybe it does, but then it splits them or something, I have .aa .ab .ac, etc. files that it made. :P [13:21] does anyone know if the version of libdvdread that's in current at the moment is mplayer's one, or if it's the one from ogle? [13:21] fire|bird: weird i used it at work and got only one file on our server. :) I'll double check tonight. [13:21] tooly (n=tooly@e178134205.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:21] mancha, I copied the folder containing my music from one sata drive to an ide drive [13:22] lf4: ok, yeah it'd be interesting to know if you just got one file, aside from the multiple files, it worked great. [13:22] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] how did you copy it? [13:22] cp [13:22] so you have write privs clearly [13:22] razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [13:22] how is the target IDE mounted? [13:22] fire|bird: haha yeah multiple files would defeat the purpose of it. [13:22] with fstab [13:23] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [13:23] pwc101 (n=pwc101@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [13:23] thats not how, thats where [13:23] lf4: indeed it would. :P [13:23] pwc101 (n=pwc101@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Argh, now the external drive I'm trying to dd the image to is barking Read-only errors. :/ [13:24] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:24] lf4: While doing this, on my slack box I have kde 4.3 building. :D [13:24] mancha, what do you mean then? its automatically mounted on startup [13:24] Haha oh nice fire|bird [13:24] what mount options is what i meant [13:25] lf4: It won't let me change perms on it either. :/ [13:25] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-107.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] I get my 640 drive and external case today :D haha I'll be doing the same thing as you minus the building KDE 4.3 [13:25] just curious, isn't -current updates suppose to update /etc/slackware-version to 13rc2 from 13 [13:25] mancha, /dev/hdb1 /hdb ext3 defaults 1 2 [13:25] rc1 [13:25] fire|bird: really? now that is odd. [13:25] lf4: indeed it is. :( [13:25] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [13:25] what privs on /hdb ? [13:26] I just formatted the whole drive yesterday. :/ [13:26] greetings missyjane [13:26] usually does current does that ? i mean updating ther version string [13:26] 774 [13:26] root:root? [13:26] root:users [13:26] Action: missyjane bows to fire|bird [13:27] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:27] lf4: Well, wait a second, I put the fs on it to ntfs, I should be able to use ext3 on the external drive, right? [13:27] something's not adding up. does chown -R root:root /hdb work? [13:27] fire|bird: yeah I would use ext3 or 4 [13:27] lf4: sweet, I'll do that then, that'll make life easier. [13:28] Haha yeah just a little ;) [13:28] juan--d-2-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) joined ##slackware. [13:28] lf4: once I get this imaging done, that laptop will have slack64 :D [13:28] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [13:28] mancha, I have it running right now there is alot of crap there, but when I tried to that just to the folder it gave me read only errors [13:29] and then told me I had insufficient privileges [13:29] fire|bird: nice :) haha I just pre-ordered my Slack13 DVD this morning. [13:29] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A763F6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] lf4: nice :) [13:30] y0 slackytude2 [13:30] wb slackytude2 [13:30] greetings earthlings [13:30] y0 fire|bird , init[1] [13:30] oh damn, forgot to turn off work machine again [13:31] greetings slackytude2 marsling [13:31] :P [13:31] slackytude2: that's twice now. :P [13:31] well fire|bird with marsling thou [13:32] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [13:32] juan--d-2-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) left irc: Client Quit [13:32] evo- (n=evo@wrzb-5f75ace1.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:32] slackytude, go away [13:33] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD896A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:33] and so he did. :) [13:33] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [13:33] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD896A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:33] lol [13:33] another victory for justice [13:33] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:33] one small step for man..... [13:33] heh, yeah! [13:34] y0 Keiffer, your wife is here, man is she mad at you. :P [13:34] heh [13:34] o_O [13:34] fire|bird, a big ghost command to man, a small kick from nickserv [13:34] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:34] guax: lol [13:34] fire|bird, why is she mad? [13:35] Keiffer: you should have just taken out the garbage like she asked you to. :P [13:35] Argh, fdisk didn't even FORMAT the drive as I asked, what the heck. [13:35] fire|bird: who is his wife? [13:35] init[1]: missyjane, Dominian officiated the ceremony. [13:35] Action: fredoslack love slackware [13:36] do you know any keylogger for linux? [13:36] Keiffer: o_O [13:36] it was a nice ceremony [13:36] I'm not ashamed to admit thatI cired [13:36] cried [13:36] Keiffer: try C [13:36] josefig (n=Anonymou@200.52.211.227) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:36] RC2 is out [13:37] fdisk doesn't format [13:37] amazon10x: yea we just came to know that :P [13:37] nevermind, it's the mplayer one [13:37] mancha, chown just freaked out and was spitting random stuff out [13:38] Action: slackytude bought an mp3 player today [13:38] the horror! [13:38] init[1], what? [13:38] lolwhut, i have no idea what you've done to your setup [13:38] key logger [13:38] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:38] Supported Operation Systems: Win 98/ME /2000 /XP /VISTA, Mac OS 10 or higher, Linux 2.4 or higher [13:38] mancha, http://pastebin.com/m454d9049 [13:39] First time I saw linux listed as supported OS on a consumer device like that [13:39] Keiffer: IMO, you can make one with Xlib API [13:39] fire|bird, true, i didn't take out the garbage. but all the week she complained in bed sh has a headacke [13:39] Keiffer, I wonder why [13:39] that fs is totally corrupted [13:39] fsck it [13:40] init[1], yea, do you believe i am a genius? i hardly slave linux. i can't say master [13:40] mancha, lol is the drive bad or something? [13:40] maybe, for now try to fix the fs, umount it and fsck it [13:41] Keiffer: yea but no use of making one , there are policies that prevent keylogging things [13:41] slackytude, I know why. you and her have some bussiness, ;) [13:41] Keiffer, -_- [13:41] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:41] Keiffer, you know too much already [13:41] yea slackytude has some asprin for her head pain [13:41] umount /hdb;fsck /dev/hdb1 [13:41] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.38) joined ##slackware. [13:41] well how is the asprin business goin slackytude [13:42] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:42] init[1], oh, you know how it is, you win some, you lose some [13:43] a constant up and down [13:43] and in an out [13:43] O_o [13:43] pwc101 (n=pwc101@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:43] mancha, does fsck work for ext3? [13:43] yes [13:44] as long as fsck.ext2/3 are there [13:44] does fsck actully do anything? [13:44] i'm not sure. [13:44] i think its just a script filled with printf()'s [13:44] cleans up the lost inodes [13:44] lol acidchild [13:44] alisonken1home: lies! [13:44] reminds them where they're supposed to be (like mothers and homework) [13:45] mancha, http://pastebin.com/d6e4d173f [13:45] mancha, did i mentioned that i am the owner of a full working ssh with rsa? [13:46] lolwhut, your fs is totally fubar'd what did you do? [13:46] is the drive, s.m.a.r.t. capable? [13:46] what does fubar mean? [13:47] fucked up beyond any repair? [13:47] fucked up beyond all recognition [13:47] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=F.U.B.A.R. [13:47] (no clue, but sounds good) [13:47] julioc (i=1000@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) joined ##slackware. [13:47] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:47] mancha, I think so I dunno what that means, and I didnt do anything other then move over those files [13:48] mancha, should I just throw the drive out lol [13:48] nah, it could still be working and merely messed up at the fs level [13:49] :)) [13:49] if you have all the data elsewhere why not just re-format it [13:49] and foobar? [13:49] Keiffer, google it [13:49] or bing it [13:49] _marc` (n=marc@2002:57ea:5158:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [13:50] mancha, kk, I have to go to work but thanks for the help. once its formatted how will i know if it is going to do it again? [13:51] soon, we will worship this goodle [13:51] fire|bird, what do you mean Dominian officiated the ceremony?? [13:51] you ask someone somthing--> google it [13:52] missyjane, he is ordained in some church. He is a Reverend [13:52] you have a problem, you google it [13:52] you want a chick.. google it [13:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:54] Keiffer: what if i want hen ? [13:54] congrats missyjane [13:55] :) [13:55] you go for bing [13:55] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [13:55] Keiffer: o_O [13:55] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:57] http://www.bing.com/search?q=hen&go=&form=QBLH&filt=all [13:57] The image with the hen [13:57] tooly (n=tooly@e178134205.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [13:58] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:59] init[1], congrat for what? [13:59] slackytude, :D [13:59] ^-^ [13:59] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-168-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:59] firebird told me you got married [13:59] missyjane: [13:59] ^ [14:00] missyjane, almost bought a warhammer book today [14:00] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:00] what's a warhammer book? [14:00] missyjane: My child.. you do not remember your marriage? [14:01] lol [14:01] Keiffer, a book in which the story is set in the warhammer universe [14:02] and what's the warhammer universe? [14:02] lol [14:03] Keiffer, ask you wife [14:03] err [14:03] slackytude, >:( shouldve bought one, esp one on space marine [14:04] init[1], what?! / Dominian what... i.... i slept with you too? [14:04] missyjane, yeah but then I saw this huge book which contains 3 books by Philip K Dick [14:04] for cheap! [14:04] its so thick you can kill people with it [14:04] slackytude, lol still warhammer is more FUN [14:05] well, they dont run away [14:05] :| [14:05] >.> [14:05] slackytude: more fun if you let unsuspecting people read it. Philip K. Dick books might cause insanity in some cases... [14:05] (morning, people) [14:05] Urchlay: yo, [14:05] hope ya listened to it [14:06] Urchlay, yeah, its freaky [14:06] i mean again :) [14:06] Urchlay, didnt like the one I read last time but I have hopes for this one [14:06] init[1]: I just rolled out of bed and crawled to the coffee pot, gimme a minute [14:06] Urchlay: :) take your time [14:06] hm, a PKD book you didn't like? which? [14:06] Urchlay, morning [14:06] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.31.59) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:06] Urchlay, cant remeber, really [14:07] btw its almost 12:00am here [14:07] Urchlay, some dude gets crazy [14:07] heh [14:07] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:07] yeah, cause that narrows it down a lot :) [14:07] lol [14:07] I realised it as I wrote it [14:07] ? [14:08] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:08] Urchlay, this one is Blade Runner, Ubik and Marsian Timedrop [14:08] Action: init[1] away for sleep [14:08] night init[1] [14:08] Keiffer: damn near every book the guy wrote either has a guy going crazy, or a guy thinking he's crazy [14:08] slackytude: gn [14:08] Urchlay, got an mp3 player as well [14:08] Urchlay, and why would you read this? is it funny? [14:08] blade runner book = do androids dream of electric sheep, just with a different title, or is the text changed to be closer to the movie? [14:08] Urchlay, linux is listed as supported OS ^-^ [14:09] hi Urchlay [14:09] Urchlay, I think its the translation [14:09] Keiffer: as someone who's doubted his sanity once or twice, I can empathize... [14:09] Urchlay, original book [14:09] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:10] Keiffer: also he comes up with some interesting ideas. Guy takes a drug, it appears to alter history (he's suddenly rich and famous, with a long career behind him), but he can't tell whether history has really changed, or he's gone crazy. Interesting idea, to me [14:10] missyjane: no you didn't sleep with me [14:10] Action: slackytude nods [14:10] missyjane: I just married you to slackytude [14:11] Dominian, you mean Keiffer [14:11] Urchlay, doubted by yourself or by others? [14:11] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Keiffer: Both, but have never been that worried what others think of me. [14:12] Urchlay, ever read Ubik? [14:12] yeah [14:12] that may be the first PKD book I ever read, even [14:12] good one? [14:12] oh yeah [14:12] cool [14:12] I thought I had to give PKD another chance [14:12] I didn't figure out WTF was going on the first time I read it [14:13] heh [14:13] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:13] y0 antiwire [14:13] ain't dat sum updates [14:13] yar [14:13] hey slackytude [14:14] silvergold (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:15] antiwire: hey [14:15] hi [14:15] Urchlay, I should read more. Meanwhile, i can tell you what recently happened in my country. Info exchange [14:15] Keiffer: heh, I get terrified and/or depressed, watching the news [14:16] You had a case with a mental ill teenage girl who took the eyes of another paralized teen and ate em? [14:16] antiwire: lookit the rc2 ChangeLog, fetchmail's got a fix for the NUL prefix thing. Every SSL-using app is going to need to be fixed separately, I guess :( [14:16] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.38) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] Keiffer: I *hope* that's fiction [14:17] Urchlay: yep [14:17] _marc` (n=marc@2002:57ea:5158:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Read error: 13 (Permission denied) [14:17] pidgin uses NSS in some cases too [14:17] Keiffer, O_o [14:17] NSS is supposed to be the worst of the lot [14:17] Keiffer, what country is that [14:17] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [14:17] luckily Slackware pidgin is setup for gnutls [14:18] Romania [14:18] that \0 string in SSL is kinda embarassing [14:18] but due to the nature of this, it can't be fixed in the shared library, it sounds like [14:18] lol [14:18] Keiffer, thats pretty fucked up [14:18] http://www.stiripescurt.ro/stiri/i-a-smuls-ochii-si-i-a-mancat-unul/306633.html [14:18] slackytude: we checked out the paper on it last night and thought "hmm..." [14:18] yea [14:18] can i safely remove /root/.cpan/ directory to free some diskspace? [14:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:18] Id rather not read that [14:18] antiwire, whut paper? [14:19] http://www.thoughtcrime.org/papers/null-prefix-attacks.pdf [14:19] when i saw the message from slack-security, i couldn't find the CVE [14:19] that pdf breaks it down [14:19] antiwire, yeah, I know about it [14:19] _pub_landlord (n=sixx@212.183.134.209) joined ##slackware. [14:19] antiwire, still dont get the reference [14:20] antiwire, why were you thinking "hmm..." ? [14:20] hmm as in this is bad and i wonder how bad it really is in the wild [14:20] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:21] i'll be right back I want to apply these rc2 updates in rl1 [14:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." 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[14:31] http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Times-Takes-Aim-At-15Second-Voicemail-Cash-Cow-103739 [14:31] wow [14:31] $620 million on that calculation [14:32] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [14:33] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kfnigcjhexyhpkeu) left irc: [14:33] Nick change: silvergold -> fire|bird [14:34] everything is about money [14:34] or power [14:34] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Client Quit [14:35] or sex [14:35] jeev: I remember his old show on tv [14:35] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [14:36] jeev: aparrently you could then hit a key to get to get past all the usual "hi its joahnanananana I'm not here right now, leave a funky message" [14:36] slackytude, sex is about power. another kind of power, but still power [14:36] different for each provider [14:36] Keiffer, uh [14:36] http://thereifixedit.com/ [14:36] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:36] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] they san men hav sex only to make women their slaves. that's about all... making her inferior to you [14:37] say [14:37] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.51) joined ##slackware. [14:37] do they? [14:37] I hate they! [14:37] Who is the "they" that says this? Men? :P [14:38] Its always "them" [14:38] unveiling our true intentions since 1994 [14:38] why since 1994? [14:38] SQlvpapir: yup, and we can't even confront them because we don't know who the heck "they" are. [14:40] if i install current now will it be easy to go to stable when its released? i find a lot of info going from stable to current but not the other way around. [14:40] sluckxz, yes [14:40] sluckxz, most likely [14:41] slackytude, are you running current? [14:41] sluckxz, no [14:41] Action: Urchlay is [14:41] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:41] hey Urchlay [14:42] well, 64-bit -current, but I haven't updated it since rc1 [14:42] fire|bird [14:42] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl27-209.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:42] I would like to see...uhm.. I would like to see a nice, cosy, shiny Slackware desktop. [14:43] Keiffer, you just want to enslave it [14:43] well, it depends on your exact definitions of nice, cosy, and shiny [14:43] nachox (n=imarambi@201.254.123.2) joined ##slackware. [14:43] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] nachox (n=imarambi@201.254.123.2) left irc: Client Quit [14:43] guys i got working intel driver but the touchpad and kbd doesnot work?! [14:43] x1user, running what? [14:44] intel video driver [14:44] Slackware RC2 :} [14:44] slackytude, enslave it? i want some printscreens\ [14:44] 13 * [14:44] yes rc2 [14:44] x1user, xorg.conf? [14:44] huh which part [14:45] x1user, got your touchpad defined in it? [14:45] think so [14:45] So, nobody shows me? [14:45] i will upload the xorg somewhere [14:46] how can i use pastebin trough the console [14:46] Ctrl+A Ctrl+C in nano ?! [14:47] Keiffer, slackware desktop screenshot [14:47] Keiffer, http://tinyurl.com/nf8ga5 [14:47] x1user, mark with mouse, 3rd button pastes [14:47] :)) [14:47] i will try to make it [14:48] how cool [14:48] Action: x1user plug off [14:48] i tell you, soon we will be worshiping google [14:49] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [14:50] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:51] Keiffer: careful with that "we" [14:52] You? [14:53] well I won't be worshipping anything any time soon [14:54] Keiffer: Well, there will be some probably worshipping bing. :P [14:55] it's ne next shit this bing? [14:56] Keiffer: bing is Microsoft's latest attempt at a search engine, or as they call it, a decision engine. [14:56] http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/ i m not a member. [14:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:57] wb antiwire [14:57] that took so long because my / did a scheduled fsck and it's encrypted [14:58] antiwire, oh yeah, pretty sure a lot of ssl attack happen in the wild. still, a string with a \0 in it breaks your security? thats old-school, should have thought of that, imho [14:59] drake_ (n=drake@ip-mintel-216-21-187-15.mintel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] slackytude: yeah, like that last dd-wrt issue, just adding ; in the right place caused the cgi to execute system commands as root [14:59] so 1999 [14:59] ;) [14:59] yeah, that was awful as well [15:00] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [15:01] imarambiocatan__ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] drake_ (n=drake@ip-mintel-216-21-187-15.mintel.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [15:03] drake_ (n=drake@ip-mintel-216-21-187-15.mintel.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. 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[15:23] evening all [15:23] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:23] greetings dive, how are you? [15:23] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:23] fire|bird, hi, not so bad thanks, yourself? [15:24] dive: doing excellent, thanks. Laptop hdd is being imaged (courtesy of dd), kde 4.3 build is churning along nicely, all is well. :) [15:24] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [15:24] nice :-) [15:24] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] SubGenius: Today is August 6 The Dance of the Insensitive Bastards [15:25] by the way [15:25] Action: slackytude dances [15:25] dive: with dd, last night going to ntfs external drive, it was around 2 MB/s, I formatted the drive today with ext3, it's going at 11.3 MB/s :D [15:25] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:25] dive: So, have you been celebrating then? :P [15:26] I've been dancing all day [15:26] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left ##slackware. [15:26] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Hmm, the usercount script in irssi isn't working. It loaded, but doesn't show the count. [15:27] you need to add it to statusbar [15:27] /help statusbar [15:27] dive: qemu-img can convert vdi's to qemu format too, correct? [15:27] dive: oh yeah, that's right, I didn't do that since starting with a fresh config [15:27] dunno [15:27] hey i have problem with 'startx' its dosent run i and look log and its says me:xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor; xf86CloseConsole: VTGETMODE failed Bad file descriptor [15:28] Supported formats: cow qcow vmdk cloop dmg bochs vpc vvfat qcow2 parallels nbd host_cdrom host_floppy host_device raw [15:29] anyone who know how to fix it? [15:29] antiwire: thanks. I thought I had seen vdi somewhere when I was googling, I search some more. [15:29] s/I/I'll/ [15:29] heya fire|bird, had to talk to my boss really quick [15:29] Necos: Uh oh, what'd you do this time? :P [15:30] blow up the science lab? [15:30] oh, he was asking me about an algorithm i wrote [15:30] :D [15:30] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Necos: cool. :) [15:30] help to me pls... [15:30] we're processing a bunch of student data, so we can hand out emails [15:30] antiwire: 34G of 160G completed. :) [15:30] to new students [15:30] nice [15:31] nqqmnet-, never seen that error before personally, but hang around and someone might know [15:31] nqqmnet-, might be an idea to put your log up ay http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [15:31] dive i cant.. i dont have xorg [15:32] so? [15:33] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [15:33] nqqmnet-, do you have elinks? [15:33] links -g [15:33] no, elinks [15:33] links -g! [15:34] elinks allows you to edi an edit box in vim [15:34] so you can just open xorg log and paste it in [15:34] nqqmnet-: What video card? [15:35] Alan_Hicks nvidia [15:35] binary blob drivers? [15:35] And what version of Slackware? [15:35] current [15:35] x86 or x86_64? [15:35] x86 [15:36] Ok. cd /etc/X11; mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.BAK; startx [15:36] hm, who was in here posting tinyurl links? [15:36] I did [15:36] a single link [15:37] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] Alan_Hicks i still have that error [15:37] nqqmnet-: Ok. mv xorg.conf.BAK xorg.conf [15:38] Then edit xorg.conf and use the "nv" driver instead of the "nvidia" driver. [15:38] I can almost gaurantee you there's some sort of syntax error in your xorg.conf file. [15:38] i try it but... [15:38] but what? [15:38] it dosent fix it [15:38] pastebin.ca has a "upload file" function. try that with lynx or links and if it doesn't work, dcc me the file and i'll upload it [15:38] Wescotte_ (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Ok. Hmmm.... [15:39] nqqmnet-: Does X -configure work? [15:39] greetings Lord_Khelben, how are you? [15:39] greetings fire|bird. nice how about you [15:39] why is it xf86 in that error [15:39] Lord_Khelben: doing excellent, thank you. :) [15:39] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:39] funky error that is [15:40] Alan_Hicks no [15:40] Somethin's fucked up. :-) [15:40] nqqmnet-: When was the last time you synched to -current? [15:40] before 2-3 days [15:40] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [15:40] uname -r [15:41] 2.6.29.5-smp [15:41] umm [15:41] 2.6.29.6 is the latest in current [15:41] heh [15:41] that's more than 2-3 days old [15:41] w8 [15:42] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Connection timed out [15:42] I doubt that's your problem, but it wouldn't hurt to run the latest generic kernel. [15:42] nqqmnet-, how did you do the update? slackpkg? [15:42] nqqmnet-, did you try using vesa? [15:42] The problem might not be the kernel but that does suggest a mixed up mess of packages [15:43] sounds like a good time for a wipe & clean install [15:44] i'll reboot and come back [15:44] nqqmnet- (n=vanko@87.120.157.27) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [15:44] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] hmmmm [15:50] damn, i wish slack 13 was out already... (just like everyone else) [15:50] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-31-109-177.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] check distrowatch, rc2 is posted [15:51] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Pig_Pen, /topic [15:52] that flys by too fast when i enter the channel [15:52] NqqmNet (n=bambam@87.120.157.27) joined ##slackware. [15:52] hmmm, i wonder if i could get ARMedslack to run on my zaurus [15:53] using dive's theme, the topic is right at the top of the terminal for me in irssi. :) [15:53] it is, but it only shows the fist line in irssi [15:54] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [15:54] s/fist/first [15:54] tnx guys i fix it ;] [15:54] typing in /topic is too easy [15:54] NqqmNet, nice [15:54] what did you do ? [15:54] NqqmNet, you know there have been a lot of updates to -current the last 2 days? [15:55] Lord_Khelben, to remove nvidia drivers and use vesa [15:55] hehehe [15:55] dive, now i'll update [15:55] but..it's dosent run at the first time [15:55] a lot of my video stuff including mesa didnt update my first round of slackpkg [15:55] heh, VBox can export VM's, to ovf format though. :P [15:56] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-133.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:56] before you do any updating of software of any kinds when it comes to X or the kernel ALWAYS remove that nvidia driver, its a good driver but it borks stuff if you dont remove it before updating [15:58] no it doesn't. you just need to reinstall it after. [15:58] >.> [15:59] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:59] i always remove nvidia before i do anything with the kernel or X [16:00] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [16:00] this is the safest way, but if you don't do it, xorg will put its libs and overwrite the nvidia ones so OpenGL apps will crash [16:00] i haven't noticed anything else [16:00] the only thing that happends is that the module remains in module path of old kernel, which you might actually want [16:01] then install it again for new kernel [16:01] hmmm... [16:01] Lord_Khelben: after you make any changes to xorg you just reinstall the driver and the nvidia driver scripts fix all of that. [16:01] antiwire: yes of course [16:01] how you set a nic for several IPs again [16:01] i just said what happens if you don't do it [16:02] virtual addresses [16:02] slackytude: you mean aliases ? like eth0:5 ? [16:02] NqqmNet (n=bambam@87.120.157.27) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:02] yes [16:02] ifconfig eth0:1 1.2.3.4/24 [16:02] in light of the recent ssl bug, why isn't cups.SlackBuild set to use gnutls? [16:02] ah, right [16:02] thx [16:03] Necos: I think there will be a lot of things that end up having an SSA in the next few weeks [16:03] right... [16:04] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] i have a server running 10.2 that i wanna upgrade cups on... and i was going to just build 1.3.11 on it, but... [16:04] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [16:04] _pub_landlord (n=sixx@212.183.134.209) joined ##slackware. [16:04] now i'm debating if i should just wait a week or two and just upgrade it to 13.0 [16:05] might as well wait :) [16:05] Nick change: Wescotte_ -> Wescotte [16:05] razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [16:05] downloading the 12.2 dvd right now, but it won't be ready in time :( [16:06] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.2.138) joined ##slackware. [16:08] upgrading from 10.2 is going to be a job and a half [16:08] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-26-82-159.nrth.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:08] lol, yeah [16:08] im back [16:08] and then some... don't forget 2.4->2.6 [16:08] 10 to 11 was pretty bad [16:08] what did i miss? [16:08] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [16:08] not much [16:09] I think I'd be inclined to backup all config files and do a fresh 12.2 and then perhaps upgrade to 13 when it hits the streets [16:09] which is why i'm d/l'ing the 12.2 dvd [16:09] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [16:10] i also have a server running 11,0 that i'm gonna backup and fresh 12.2 on [16:10] might as well wait for 13.0 [16:10] m4lik (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [16:11] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:11] yeah might as well [16:11] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] the lzma compression interests me [16:11] i mean 12.2 is great but 13 can only be better [16:12] 13 is great except for KDE 4 XD [16:12] unlucky #13 lol [16:12] but that isn't due to Slackware [16:12] i dont use kde on my servers :P [16:12] it's just my personal opinion that KDE 4 sucks [16:12] >_> [16:12] it isn't just 4 [16:12] :P [16:12] and I did get a memleak on XFCE a few times [16:12] think I'll stick with flux [16:13] i still need to try lxde [16:13] and xfce [16:13] lxde is interesting... but i only used lxpanel with openbox [16:13] you can always roll your own kde-3.x on slack-13 (i been thinking about it) [16:13] NthDegree: I'm building kde 4.3 right now. :P [16:14] Action: pprkut <3 kde4 [16:14] pprkut: ++ [16:14] this build is at 97% of kdesdk right now. [16:14] Pig_Pen, I tried on Slack64-current but I get compile errors about the same structs existing twice in included kernel headers and such XDE [16:14] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Pig_Pen, and i'm so lazy i'm just gonna run a 64-bit kernel and 12.2 :P [16:15] i dont have 64 bit hardware, not sure how it will build on 32 bit 13 [16:16] ugh [16:16] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:16] i know kdelibs-3.5.10 will error if on 12.2 if you do not use --disable-inotify [16:17] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:18] but isn't inotify in the kernel? [16:18] yeah, in the filesystem section, i thought it was for nfs but i am not really sure what it does [16:19] user8937 (n=user0432@76.250.191.231) joined ##slackware. [16:19] monitoring for file changes, I think [16:19] inotify is for monitoring filesystems (deletions, additions, etc.) [16:20] inotify2.h or some such [16:20] Inotify is a file change | | notification system and a replacement for dnotify [16:20] oops [16:20] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:21] yeah [16:21] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:21] i have this feeling slackware 13 wont be good [16:21] cause.. of the number 13 [16:21] 13 will be great. :) [16:21] ... [16:21] hi guys, how to check the integrity of .txz packages. thanks [16:22] it's a number big deal [16:22] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.223) joined ##slackware. [16:22] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.63.203) joined ##slackware. [16:22] \o/ 70G of 160G complete. :D [16:22] hahaha [16:22] fire|bird: are you doing this over USB again this time? [16:22] only monsters will like 13, like vampires, werewolves, frankensteins, witches, voodoo doctors, you know the type, the evil minions of the world [16:23] <-- [16:23] Action: Necos stabs dive in the heart with a silver stake [16:23] antiwire: yeah, only way I have. I formatted the external drive for ext3 though and it's going at 11.3 MB/s vs. last night's ntfs 2 MB/s [16:23] I have a plan to take over the world [16:23] i plan to build a frankenstein monster out of my 13 install, bolts in the neck and everything [16:23] lol [16:25] [].[] [16:25] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] [in bed] [16:26] lol [16:26] how have other distros handled the number 13? O are we the first to reach it? [16:26] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.63.247) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Rupert Murdoch is wanting to charge for access on his news websites, i think he is in for a rude awakening [16:26] 13 ftw [16:26] pinnen (n=pinnen@79.136.44.58) joined ##slackware. [16:26] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-192-041.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:26] dive: I think so, yes. Fedora is at 11, OpenSuse is what 11.x, so yeah. :) [16:26] Pig_Pen, I think people would just move on [16:26] The reason I'm asking is that I did a network install of -current twice and each time it couldn't install qt. It said the package is corrupted. So I installed -current and downloaded qt manually from mirrorservice (UK) now when I try to install it with installpkg I get the same error: Compressed data is corrupt [16:27] Big Brown is at 9.04. [16:27] yeah but that's a date based version system [16:27] portia, have you tried any other mirrors? (I'm dowloading from blueyonder as we speak) [16:27] yeah [16:28] thats what i think too dive, i sure as heck wont pay for content online, there are too many sources with free news, there are very few real journalists anymore, most of the news outlets just copy what UPI and AP run [16:28] which has errored out [16:28] @dive - I'll try it now [16:28] antiwire: not to mention alphabetical name based. I wonder what they'll do once they reach Z, start over or drop the silly names. [16:29] or just give up and go home [16:29] lol [16:29] they need good wallpaer the most talk about ugggllyyy :P [16:30] Rat409: yeah, good wallpaper would be nice, not to mention maybe a different color scheme aside from Brown. :P [16:30] lol yuh [16:30] There are some nice alternatives they include though, Dust, etc. [16:30] yuh i guess [16:30] >.> [16:30] I had a dream last nigh where I was an IT admin for some huge wedding and everyone wanted to hook their phones up to the wifi but only my laptop could see the SSID. it was horrible [16:31] lol [16:31] hahaha [16:31] that's a nightmare [16:31] everyone was pissed [16:31] portia, blueyonder doesn't seem to have all the files yet. I'm going to try http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ which is usually up-to-date [16:31] wow, blueyonder is so much quicker than mirrorservice [16:32] portia, but osu is a bit slower [16:32] damnit [16:32] just got a mail [16:32] failed my damn exam [16:32] gah [16:32] ? [16:32] slackytude: ouch, that sucks. [16:32] slackytude: how horribly did you fail? [16:32] indeed, it does [16:32] Necos: His uni exams. [16:32] well, yeah [16:33] well, one of it [16:33] the graphic stuff [16:33] qt from blueyonder installs without any problems [16:33] entrance exams? [16:33] huh, no [16:33] one of this years tests [16:33] or finals? >.> [16:33] slackytude: so you have to go retake it? [16:33] fire|bird, ay [16:33] oh, retake it [16:33] funny enough I managed to pass robot simulations tho [16:33] no clue how I managed that [16:34] _pub_landlord (n=sixx@212.183.134.209) left irc: "leaving" [16:34] pure luck? :P [16:34] stranger things have happened [16:34] Necos: like...? :) [16:34] hrm, looks like 42% failed that test [16:34] the solar eclipse over tokyo? [16:34] @dive: shouldn't it be reported anywhere? [16:35] portia, maybe they're still mirroring [16:35] portia, what about qt? Yes perhaps if you can get hold of the email of the mirror [16:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [16:35] @Necos - I got the same qt error yesterday on mirrorservice. 2 days in a row? [16:35] portia, it may just be not synced properly yet. Try it again in a few days. [16:36] yeah, it's possible portia [16:36] portia, I always keep that osuosl mirror handy as a backup when blueyonder are not synced yet. [16:37] rupert murdoc is a piece of shit [16:37] dive/necos: Ok, I didn't know. Anyway I installed qt from blueyonder, but I'll check mirrorservice in a few days time (out of curiosity) [16:37] he is the reason why conspiracy theories can take hold [16:37] portia, the real thing that worries me is that Virgin Media will one day decide to stop the blueyonder mirror [16:37] the fucker owns almost all of the news channels [16:37] and happens to be a jew [16:37] loo [16:37] and he doesnt help when he has a piece of shit attitude for an old man [16:38] ugh [16:38] goddamn i hate that man with a passion [16:38] missyjane, calm down [16:38] :) [16:38] missyjane, ++ [16:39] heh [16:39] media has too much power. [16:39] he wants customers to pay for his news website now [16:39] but I guess you all know that [16:39] yea he supports drm [16:39] @dive - That would be excellent: no blueyonder, mirrors.ac.uk has never worked for me (why is it still on the slackware website if it's dead?) and mirrorservice with 'dodgy' packages,LOL [16:39] slackytude, yes that's what brought the subject up. [16:39] and what's wrong about it , slackytude ? [16:40] DeeeeP, huh? nothing. just wondering if it will work [16:40] portia, mirrors.ac.uk stopped some time ago so yeah it should be reported. [16:40] need to let PiterPunk know [16:41] and possibly pat if it's on sw.com [16:41] huhuhu [16:41] portia, mirrorservice is alright [16:42] portia, sometimes the MD5s don't match, but those won't get installed [16:42] and blueyonder is now virgin media [16:42] so perhaps someone should talk to virgin and find out what the new mirror service URL is for them [16:42] yeah, just mentioned that. Wonder how long they will keep it running... [16:42] NthDegree, blueyonder works fine [16:43] it's mirrors.ac.uk that has stopped [16:43] mirrors.ac.uk has never worked for me, ever xD [16:43] it used to [16:43] NthDegree: That's really weird - it wouldn't install on my system complaining of being corrupt [16:44] portia, yeah, I downloaded QT today and it was "corrupt" because the MD5 didn't match [16:44] ok [16:44] but that is the only bad package i've had from mirrorservice [16:44] I don't really want to get in touch with Virgin because their mirror box is probably hidden ina closet somewhere and they don't know what it does so left it alone ;-) [16:45] @dive: LOL [16:45] dive, i'd avoid them cause you might wind up with a 75% throttle ;-p [16:45] if someone pointed it out to them they would probably switch it off [16:45] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:45] NthDegree, too right, damn people [16:46] Virgin Media throttle off 75% of bandwidth during the day after 6GB transfer (or less?) [16:46] s/people/any word you like/ [16:46] NthDegree, depends on your connection speed [16:46] I think it (used to be anyway) between 4pm and midnight [16:46] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl27-209.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:47] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [16:47] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.39.139) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html <-- they suck [16:47] unless you buy 50Mb [16:47] yes I know, I use them [16:47] I'm on 12MB [16:48] I forget the cap rates though [16:48] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.63.203) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:48] don't download much these days anyway except the odd distro [16:48] 3G during the day [16:48] and 1.5G in the evening XD [16:49] then you're left with 25% of your max. speed >_> [16:49] I've noticed that mirrorservice is University of Kent - I'm sure other UK universities could contribute to slackware [16:50] Action: missyjane is very very fucking frustrated right now [16:51] missyjane: and why is that? >.> [16:51] any reason? [16:53] tons [16:54] now i know why people commit murder [16:54] why [16:54] for food? [16:55] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.63.247) left irc: "Leaving" [16:55] webbi (n=webi@190.247.201.22) joined ##slackware. [16:55] missyjane, PM? ^_^ [16:55] hello [16:56] SirBobDobbs++ ^^ [16:56] today i will threat cups [16:56] ? [16:56] and i have a question [16:57] webbi, what's the question? [16:57] i have configured sendmail just to send emails from my server [16:57] can haz qwestin? [16:57] ah, sendmail isn't my cup of tea [16:57] xD [16:57] hmmm, anyone still using netatalk? [16:57] to do this, i needed to edited /etc/hosts and put at first alias of the server ip, the domain that im using, so: it says 192.168.1.10 mydomain.com server [16:58] it worked fine [16:58] but now im configuring cups [16:58] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] and when i try to access it, it says that i need to enter via: mydomain.com:631 [16:58] and i dont want that [16:58] i want to access it locally, from lan, so with 192.168.1.10:631 will be fine, but it always redirect me to the domain.com... how can i resolve it? [16:59] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.131.199) joined ##slackware. [16:59] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] also cups wants to use https and i dont have https in my server [17:00] firefox looks nasty in kde :-( [17:00] https is provided by cups [17:01] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] deco: yeah, you can fix that though, gtk-qt-engine for one. :P [17:01] or just some gtk theme [17:01] fire|bird: how do i fix it ? :P [17:01] Necos: ok, but how can i avoid that redirect? [17:01] you don't... [17:02] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-133.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] Necos: i see, i just needed to open https:// and not http:// its working fine now [17:02] yeah [17:02] Necos: so cups dont redirect me [17:02] Necos: great, thanks! [17:03] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] deco, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/gtk-chtheme/ [17:03] deco: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/gtk-qt-engine/ [17:03] deco, and also checkout the engines and stuff [17:04] fire|bird, bah qt-gtk [17:04] just set gtk theme works fine [17:04] dive: I was unable to build either gtk-chtheme or gtk-qt-engine on current. [17:04] dive: yeah, that works too. :P [17:04] oh.. [17:04] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [17:04] fire|bird: thank you! [17:04] just finished my -current update [17:05] must look [17:05] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:05] dive: who do i set gtk theme ? [17:05] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [17:05] how* [17:05] \o/, 98G of 160G complete. [17:06] deco, using that link I gave you above [17:06] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] dive> deco, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/gtk-chtheme/ [17:06] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [17:06] dive: oh sorry i missed that one :P thanks [17:07] deco: in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 [17:09] Necos: i just tried to add my printer and it's there loading and loading.... is that normal? about 1 min loading? [17:09] user8937 (n=user0432@76.250.191.231) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] will kde 4.3 be avaiable in current soon? [17:10] LnxSlck: doubtful, it's not even planned to be in slack for 13 [17:11] unless they surprise us. :P [17:11] fire|bird, ok... today rc2 was out right? [17:11] yeah [17:11] fire|bird, I just built it on current.. no problems at all [17:11] LnxSlck: fwiw, I'm building 4.3 as we speak and it's going very well. [17:12] dive: really, I'll have to try again and see what the error was. [17:12] fire|bird, how did you built it? downloaded tgz ? [17:12] dive: got it installed now where can i get a nice theme that makes firefox look good ? [17:12] LnxSlck: I'm using slackware's slackbuilds and kde source from kde.org. [17:12] webbi: do you have a well-formed ppd? [17:12] fire|bird, nice [17:12] LnxSlck: It takes a while, but it's going well. [17:12] deco, google xfce look or gtk look [17:12] Necos: i choosed the model from the list [17:12] dive: thanks [17:13] fire|bird, nice [17:13] deco: try gnome-look,org put it in ~/.themes [17:13] hmmm, did it ask you for credentials? [17:13] deco: xfce-look.org or gnome-look.org or opendesktop.org [17:13] Rat409: fire|bird thakns [17:13] thanks* [17:14] how do i stop wicd to starting up at boot time? [17:14] Necos: no, i choosed the model, click continue and it's still loading [17:14] LnxSlck, chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd [17:15] dive, thanks.. i didn't know if it was that or the binary [17:15] LnxSlck, there is that and wicd-client [17:15] k [17:15] wicd-client usually started by desktop [17:15] so check that too [17:15] Necos: crap now i got a blank screen [17:16] dive, ok. thank you [17:16] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.146) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:16] jkr (n=jkr@ti0017a380-0412.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [17:16] hmmm... that's why it's doing that... [17:17] you haven't logged in as a member of sys or lp or root (which all have access to add the printer) [17:17] anyone else notice how the widget icon in kde4 looks suspiciously a bit like the gnome emblem? [17:18] dive: the one in the top right corner? [17:18] dive, witch one? [17:18] fire|bird, nod [17:18] dive: I haven't thought that, but someone in here at one time suggested it looked like a testicle. :P [17:18] its an upside down gnome foot! thats what kde is, its gnome upside down [17:18] fire|bird, haha [17:18] lol [17:19] that's narsty Pig_Pen :P [17:19] So, foot or testicle, either way, it's a body part of some sort. :P [17:19] foot, testicle, basically the same [17:19] or, combine the two, footicle [17:20] or, testifoot [17:20] hahaha [17:20] that sounds somewhat painful [17:20] hahaha [17:20] i am sure you heard the Ticleme elmo joke [17:20] I'm sure it would be [17:20] I like my body parts to be seperate entities [17:20] who wouldn't prefer that [17:20] who knows. lot of weird people out there [17:21] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:21] or, maybe testifooticle. [17:21] remeber rule 34 [17:21] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:21] >.> [17:22] if you got to 34, you've been reading too long [17:22] Necos: it never ask me for a password [17:22] 110G complete. \o/ [17:23] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [17:23] http://pastebin.com/m1a7eb4fe fire|bird [17:23] hmmm you're on 12.2? [17:23] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] on 12.1, i'm not a member of lp by default [17:24] Im going off [17:24] after installing slackware i added my self to audio,video what adduser recommends etc.. i still can't get sound and wheni login to kde i get a arts crash message [17:24] Pig_Pen: hahahahahaha [17:24] later slackytude [17:24] see you tomorrow for another great episode of "irc adventures" [17:24] later slackytude [17:25] Action: slackytude waves ø/ [17:25] Necos: and who user should be member of lp then? because if im opening it via browser... which user should be ? [17:25] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A763F6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:27] just open a terminal and type "groups" and hit enter [17:27] Necos: as root? [17:28] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:28] no, as your user [17:28] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-134-199.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:29] Necos: well... the server does not have any user... because it will just serve services and that's all [17:29] can you pastebin your cupsd.conf to pastebin.ca or pastebin.com? [17:29] Necos: let me see [17:30] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.39.139) joined ##slackware. [17:30] http://pastebin.com/d2f11f852 [17:30] Necos: http://pastebin.com/d2f11f852 [17:31] grep $( whoami ) /etc/group might be more accurate than "groups" [17:31] huh? [17:32] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc2" [17:33] ah, in your admin section, you have a problem webbi [17:33] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:34] change the order under to allow,deny [17:34] Necos: ok, done, going to try [17:35] might need to restart cups [17:35] Necos: i restarted, but now i got a 403 forbidden when trying to manage printers [17:35] 'cause you need to log in [17:35] use https [17:36] Necos: i used https... the index page opens fine, but when i click to go to /admin it show me the 403... where should i login then? [17:36] and remove the deny from all [17:36] my bad [17:37] Necos: i was thinking about that, let me check [17:37] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [17:37] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:37] or put the deny from all after the allow [17:37] Necos: ok, i opened the /admin now without problems [17:37] Necos: going to add printer again [17:38] should prompt you to log in [17:38] Necos: again, i choosed the model from list, clicked continue, no prompt, just loading [17:38] hmmmm that's wierd... [17:38] Necos: i changed some options from the index admin page and it prompt me to login, i do it, maybe im already loged [17:38] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.131.199) left irc: "Leaving." [17:38] oh, ok... [17:39] are there still missing icons in xfce in current? [17:39] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] nope, it should default to the tango-icon-theme [17:40] http://www.ie6nomore.com/ [17:40] i still get some missing icons in xfce config manager and thunar too :S [17:40] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:41] today's updates (rc2) should fix 'em [17:41] anyone with problems when screensaver starts to run ? [17:41] brb... [17:41] here , is shuts X down [17:41] thrice`, i do have the latest build indeed [17:41] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora" [17:41] -5 zx10k1 ? [17:41] DeeeeP: i had problems with it before, but cant remember how i solve it [17:41] thrice`, yeap [17:42] I haven't applied today's updates yet, am in xfce right now, and am having no icon issues at all. [17:42] same :\ which types? [17:43] all necessary icons are contained in the xfce package right? [17:43] tango + tango-icons-extras [17:43] jkr (n=jkr@ti0017a380-0412.bb.online.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] got tango* too [17:44] im using xfce with openbox, i'll probably create a dummy user to see what happens with plain xfce [17:44] brb [17:44] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: "Leaving" [17:47] bisco (n=bisco@moko.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [17:48] hello bisco! [17:48] hello to you :) [17:48] wow that was quick [17:48] i'm so drunk it was a real effort to say hello [17:49] lol [17:49] that sentence was quite an effort too [17:49] Thom1 (n=Thom1@17.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:49] there are many ways of mispelling "quite" [17:49] for example? [17:50] im in no mod [17:50] guys, im receiving this error on cups when trying to print: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed" [17:50] mood o [17:50] with status 1! [17:50] to give examples [17:50] or use the enter e [17:50] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [17:50] key [17:50] nah.. the icons are there [17:50] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:50] it must have to do that im using openbox [17:51] there are some changes in xfce recently too i think [17:51] so, you claimed the icons were broken in xfce, yet you didn't bother checking xfce itself? :> [17:51] hum hum [17:51] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:51] *blush* [17:51] i did not claimed though.. [17:51] just asked :-) [17:51] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] sorry [17:52] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:52] sorry about that, had to walk off for a second [17:52] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] because you haven't installed foomatic [17:52] although, i thoughti t was included in cups these days >.> [17:53] Necos: i see... i found something about that and a "pnm2ppa" package [17:53] hmmm, tds.net is kinda slow today :( [17:54] Necos: so, which package should i install ? [17:54] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:55] foomatic [17:55] Necos: can i found it in slackware cd's? or should i download it? [17:55] Thom1 (n=Thom1@79.87.102.17) joined ##slackware. [17:56] shpendk1 (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [17:59] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.223) left irc: [17:59] wtf is tds.net? it's it's like yahoo. i feel dirty. [18:00] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.51) left irc: "Leaving" [18:00] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: "Leaving" [18:04] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:04] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-134-199.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Saindo" [18:04] Nick change: shpendk1 -> shpendk [18:09] xabi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] i just installed slackware and i added myself to the audio group but when i start kde i get a soundserver crash message [18:10] any DotNet is a priviate entity, a DotOrg is not-for-profit a DotCom os a commercial entity [18:10] did anyone have a problem to make a pkg for weechat-0.3.0-rc2 with "make install DESTDIR=..." ? [18:10] the application soundserver (artsd) crashed and caused the signal 11 [18:11] oh boy... [18:11] sorry about that, got called by the principal to do something [18:11] webbi: just search for it on google :P [18:11] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:11] DESTDIR does not work with weechat? try INSTALL_ROOT=/ [18:11] CmdLnKid_ (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [18:11] xabi, don't use artsd [18:12] http://packages.slackware.it/search.php?v=current&t=2&q=foomatic-rip <--- for reference [18:12] you need to install foomatic-filters [18:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:12] Thom1: than what should i use ? [18:13] Pig_Pen, it works with DESTDIR but not completely : it installs /usr/share/* in the good destdir but not with /usr/include/ directory [18:13] xabi, only alsa [18:13] Thom1: how ? [18:13] xabi, alsaconf if you need [18:14] those dirty codemonkeys! [18:14] lol [18:14] LOL [18:14] webbi: did you find it? [18:14] good night dudes... [18:14] Thom1: there's no alsaconf [18:14] bye bisco [18:14] bye [18:14] crap, another meeting [18:14] :) [18:14] bbl [18:15] Necos: could you confirm it? http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_view.php?by=name&name=foomatic&ver= [18:15] xabi, have you installed alsa-utils ? [18:15] Thom1: oh no hehe oops, but won't arts want to start too ? [18:15] webbi: if you are looking for official packages, try http://packages.slackware.it [18:15] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [18:15] xabi, artsd is a shit [18:16] Thom1: i mean how do i remove it so i can only use alsa [18:16] now I've to go... bye :) [18:16] xabi, euh... removepkg ? [18:16] Thom1: oh :P sorry new slackware user [18:16] is it a good idea to install alsa-drivers? [18:16] bisco: crap i just installed it from linuxpackages :( [18:16] xabi, ok :) [18:17] xabi, you can use pkgtool [18:17] Thom1: i checked and i have alsa-utils installed already [18:17] alsa-utils and alsa-libs [18:17] is it good to install alsa-drivers as well? [18:18] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:18] xabi, you just install slack 12.2 I guess ? [18:18] Thom1: yeah [18:18] I made a package from alsa's latest alsa-driver pkg [18:18] alsa drivers are in the kernel, unless there is something not included in the kernel you wont need them [18:18] xabi, because slackware 13.0rc2 comes out [18:18] Necos: i installed the one i show you, foomatic-filters for slack 12... but it still with the same error [18:18] Thom1: does alsa kick in when i remove arts / [18:18] ? [18:19] i think slackware 13 will be cursed and only RCs will come out for it...up to RC37 [18:19] then slackware 14 comes out [18:19] Pig_Pen, that's what i thought. Where are they located in the kernel? [18:19] device drivers > sound [18:19] anyone here have ipv6? [18:19] Is there still an rss page for slack? Seem to remember someone set one up last year or year before. [18:20] xabi, you don't need to remove artsd, just don't launch it [18:20] Thom1: well arts starts when kde starts... it's not me lanuching it [18:20] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [18:22] xabi, so you can remove the package or "chmod -x /usr/bin/artsd" [18:22] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:22] i'm just confused as to what module it's called pig_pen [18:22] Thom1: if i do that alsa will start right ? [18:22] what audio card/chip do you have mrselfpwn [18:23] if your /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa is executable [18:23] it's an intel hda [18:23] its in there [18:23] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [18:23] okay, i understand. [18:24] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: "Leaving" [18:24] pci sound devices [18:24] yes [18:24] keep diggin in the submenucs [18:24] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [18:24] okay thanks [18:25] Intel HD Audio [18:25] yes, i have that correct. I just wasn't sure if building a alsa-drivers pkg and installing it would cause any problems or just update the intel_hda [18:26] according to you it will just update the the intel modules so I should be okay. [18:26] mrselfpwn, alsa-driver is only for linux-2.4 [18:26] maybe 2.2 [18:26] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:26] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [18:26] mrselfpwn: build as a module M [18:26] yes [18:27] okay, so then alsa-drivers shouldn't be needed. alsa-utils and libs should be sufficient [18:27] yep [18:27] cool [18:27] Thom1, alsa-driver only for linux kernel 2.4 ? .. Hm, really ?? [18:28] antiwire (n=antiwire@97-94-111-202.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:28] DebiEA, I think, but I'm sure it's not for 2.6 [18:28] yup, just alsa-libs & alsa-utils, alsa-oss maybe if some apps require it but dont build alsa-oss unless some apps wont work without it [18:28] DebiEA: on -current I have a full install, and no alsa-drivers package [18:28] I'm at a barnes and noble and this place gave me an internet live IP [18:28] antiwire: nice! [18:28] Thom1, Hm, alsa is still on the 2.6 kernel.. [18:29] I mean, not so nice for the average m0ron user, but nice for you [18:29] isn't that strange though? [18:29] 66.120.150.138 [18:29] that's the one i got [18:29] DebiEA, that's why we don't need external alsa drivers [18:29] a wireless AP near where I live does that as well antiwire [18:29] heh, you could stick a laptop up inside the ceiling panels in the bathroom and get free web hosting :) [18:29] it is strange [18:29] i was at Hastings books and music and their computers was using FreeDOS and alpine [18:30] Thom1: got alsa working :-D [18:30] My bad... sorry.. Tired and stupid ^¯-- [18:30] can you guys hit that IP? [18:30] xabi, good [18:30] i vpn'd myself, btw [18:30] no pingage [18:30] xabi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:30] i'll check it out antiwire [18:30] holy shit i see pings [18:30] antiwire, doesnt reply to icmp [18:30] i see them though [18:30] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:30] you aren't responding to them, or else something in between is filtering out the responses [18:31] i see the requests but no replies go out [18:31] lol [18:31] i hit a few :) [18:31] i'll do it minus the ping [18:31] it's not me though, my system should reply [18:31] doing a nmap syn scan now [18:31] lmao [18:31] i see the namp scan [18:31] hahaha [18:31] all ports filtered [18:31] that's hilarious [18:32] fire up apache, lemme see if your port 80 will work? [18:32] 66-120-150-138.bn02054.irvnca.wayport.net [18:32] k [18:32] one sec [18:32] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:32] k go [18:33] filtered, it looks like [18:33] yes [18:33] yep [18:33] congratulations antiwire ... i got a useless LIVE IP [18:33] i see all the requests but nothing gets out [18:33] u got * [18:33] lol [18:33] $ telnet 66.120.150.138 80 [18:33] Trying 66.120.150.138... [18:33] it'll sit there until it times out [18:34] quoth nmap: All 1000 scanned ports on 66-120-150-138.bn02054.irvnca.wayport.net (66.120.150.138) are closed [18:34] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-232-133.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:34] i vpn'd out so i could irc [18:34] this is a very chatty location too, lots of people on here [18:35] any one have one raid controller that use the driver aacraid? [18:36] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:36] any software to read the controller ? [18:36] ping scan 66-120-150-1-255 shows 129,130,131,132, and 155 as up. [18:37] hmm [18:37] hm, you couldn't irc? [18:37] could you web-browse and nothing else? [18:37] http open on 129 [18:37] i could but i sure as hell wouldn't do it naked on a hotspot [18:38] i can still see the scans coming in too [18:38] lol [18:38] heh, depending on who's naked, that might make the spot hot indeed... [18:38] lol [18:38] yarvin (n=yarvin@static-71-166-162-195.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] lol [18:38] let me kill the vpn in case the routes are screwing it up [18:38] brb [18:38] 130 has telnet open [18:38] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [18:38] raymondmendoza (n=raymondm@cpe-67-241-90-254.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:40] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: "Leaving." [18:40] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:40] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:41] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:41] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:41] 66.120.150.137 [18:41] let me start httpd [18:42] \o/, dd image is DONE. :) [18:42] no way... anybody could imagine why im getting foomatic-rip failed with status 1 ? when trying to print test page from cups? printer hp psc1410 [18:43] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.2.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:43] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] Hello all. [18:43] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [18:44] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] ok go [18:45] antiwire, what u using to monitor requests ? [18:45] http://66.120.150.137 [18:45] DeeeeP: wireshark [18:45] refused [18:45] yep they are blocking then [18:46] antiwire: http://pastebin.com/d32f4ac83 [18:46] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [18:46] marchhare (n=M@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:46] i can see booo [18:46] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.155.231) joined ##slackware. [18:46] well this was fun at least [18:47] okay, this is strange. after removepkg alsa-driver alsaconf no longer finds my sound card. [18:47] ..how is that strange? [18:47] because alsa-driver isn't needed [18:47] alsa-driver ? [18:47] yes [18:47] use the driver from your kernel [18:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [18:48] ah, it's just not auto loading the kernel module after i remove alsa-driver [18:50] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:51] y0 agentc0re|work, how's it going? [18:52] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.68) joined ##slackware. [18:52] fire|bird: Better today. [18:52] great, it appears that removing alsa-driver it removes the kernel module as well. [18:52] good to hear. :) [18:53] that's because "it" got over-written by you [18:53] :) [18:53] well [18:53] it would be okay to use the latest driver correct? [18:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:54] there isn't much lag (if any) between the kernel [18:58] well that sucks, i'd have to tunnel any traffic [18:59] antiwire: what are you trying todo? [19:00] agentc0re|work: I'm at a barnes and noble and they are dolling out live IPs bt seem to filter everything [19:00] i can get out and i can see all your nmap scans coming through but nothing replies [19:01] That's funny that they'd give you a public ip. [19:01] yeah [19:01] yarvin (n=yarvin@static-71-166-162-195.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:02] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [19:02] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:03] just signed up for my giganews trial [19:04] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:06] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] /wind 3 [19:07] http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlmcTeuwnlb.FyFEys2Dh9LD7BR.;_ylv=3?qid=20090805190033AAJjRo5 [19:08] anybody know in which package is libconffont.so? [19:08] that is the funniest thing I've heard all day [19:08] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:08] libfontconfig.so sorry [19:08] antiwire: ....WOW [19:09] webbi: grep libfontconfig.so /var/log/packages/* [19:09] he knocked up the daughter AND her mom [19:09] that's some seriously potent sperm [19:09] Pimp! [19:09] and fertile women [19:09] antiwire: ohh didnt know that way... going to try... thanks! [19:09] lol [19:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] znuzzy (n=mike@74.77.18.63) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:10] antiwire: i found no match... [19:10] /var/log/packages/fontconfig-2.6.0-i486-2:usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.3.0 [19:11] on current for me... [19:11] Night [19:11] webbi: are you even running slackware? did you install fontconfig? [19:11] antiwire: fontconfig, that's the package [19:12] antiwire: yes, im in slackware, but i have no match in /var/log/packages, but i found it in slack cd 2 [19:12] k [19:12] so what does that make the guy? [19:13] he's a father of two children, one from a girl and one from the girl's mother [19:13] that's a good way to fsck up a family tree diagram [19:13] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.68) left irc: Connection timed out [19:13] antiwire: i think that the girls mother want to keep him out [19:13] well he sure got in [19:14] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:15] lol antiwire ... hell of situation [19:15] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [19:16] openvpn is rocking [19:17] There are still things that ssh -D are good for but if you want to route everything down a vpn, openvpn is nice [19:17] i've used dnstunneling before [19:19] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.54.97) joined ##slackware. [19:20] pretty slow [19:21] was it his step-daughter that he had one of the children with? (thats still weird) [19:21] antiwire: thanks for your help, it appear to work now [19:21] cool [19:21] anybody has configured with cups a printer with scanner? [19:21] webbi, for scanner use SANE [19:22] DeeeeP: ok, i have the printer shared with cups, i guess sane will let me do the same? [19:22] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:22] cups prints , SANE scans , 2 different apps [19:23] DeeeeP: ok [19:23] DeeeeP: going to try it then [19:23] ah, i see, yahoo answers, i think a lot of that stuff is trollbait for shock value, there is still some funny stuff found there. and people swallow it hook line & sinker [19:23] nachox: where are you from? [19:23] Argentina [19:24] nachox: ohhh interesting [19:24] nachox: and which part of argentina? [19:24] nachox, gimme a TANGO ! [19:24] :) [19:24] Buenos Aires [19:25] nachox: interesting... and tell me the first letter of your last name [19:25] lol [19:25] [19:25] Action: webbi is playing a game because he think he knows nachox [19:25] M [19:25] nachox: hmmm "webmind" sounds familiar? [19:26] Action: webbi knows think that it's not the webbi nacho's [19:26] *knows = now [19:26] not really, no [19:26] nachox: ok, sorry then [19:27] you can get my full name from my whois webbi btw [19:27] CmdLnKid_ (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [19:27] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:27] nachox: no i didnt... it just show me "Ignacio" [19:28] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [19:28] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@64.208.214.225) joined ##slackware. [19:29] hi guys i have a problem i have 4 GB ram in my Dell PowerEdge 1850 and it shows only 256 in slackware [19:29] oh, damn, when i'm in windows, you cant, hehe [19:30] bnhashmi, 256!? [19:30] yes [19:30] 256MB [19:30] bnhashmi, whats the result of free -m? [19:30] also same [19:30] =/ [19:30] bnhashmi, what kernel did you boot? [19:30] it displays a error before showing lilo menu [19:31] bnhashmi: hmmm [19:31] nachox: i see, sorry by confusion [19:31] limiting to 256MB [19:32] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:32] can you shows whats the error message? see if pause break stop the screen and take a snapshot old way (photo camera) [19:33] re [19:33] bnhashmi, what is output of 'grep HIGHMEM /usr/src/linux/.config' [19:33] heh NSF [19:34] dive, not shure, it says *before* lilo menu [19:34] he says* [19:34] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.68) joined ##slackware. [19:34] it rebooting i will check and let you know [19:35] ok [19:35] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] so what's the latest here? [19:36] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] Quiznos, latest what? [19:36] anything [19:36] o0 [19:36] bhmanshuip, see if you have a bios option "OS install" if so turn it to off [19:36] i've out of touch for the last few hours :) [19:37] dive; did ya hear? i've been labeled a Nazi now by princess pelosi [19:37] funny you should say that...I had also come to the conclusion that you were "out of touch" :P [19:37] heh [19:37] thanks chopp [19:38] i can admit my flaws; can you? [19:38] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left ##slackware. [19:38] anytime man, anytime ;) [19:38] i accept that i'm alil tilted. can you? [19:38] heh good [19:38] yes i have this option [19:38] turn it to of, and try again [19:38] ok i am changing [19:38] *off [19:38] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) joined ##slackware. [19:38] Quiznos: yup, I can admit your flaws and accept that you're a little tilted. :P [19:39] i've been searching for the Beer nebula everyone's tawkin about lately [19:39] fire|bird kool [19:39] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [19:40] billions and billions of alcohol molecules just waiting to be absorbed by osmosis [19:40] ROAD TRIP!!! [19:40] tediosu (n=foo@217.146.88.13) joined ##slackware. [19:40] lol [19:40] you dont want to see the beer nebula, trust me on this one [19:40] what's wrong with it? [19:40] no wheels? [19:40] (truck) [19:41] lol [19:41] how did you get labeled a nazi? [19:41] [snap] snagged one [19:41] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.157.41.251) left irc: Client Quit [19:41] you see the beer nebula only when you worship the porcelain god [19:42] well, as i understand the news reports, pelosi said that the conservative people attending those representative town-hall meets were unruly mob nazis [19:42] or someth like that [19:42] i don't like barfing in toilets. just go outside and let it loose in the wild. much nicer [19:42] heh, 1 hour left of the laptop hdd image transferring to my slack box to test with qemu. :P [19:42] i use to use the sink; safer and i got to stand [19:42] toilets are unsantary [19:42] fire, the dd command worked out then? [19:43] mancha: yeah [19:43] just taking a while to transfer. :P [19:43] antiwire and the fresh running water feels nice during in the mouth too [19:43] antiwire: I was the same way for a while.. until the night that I was too drunk to make it to the toilet to piss so I stepped outside (barefoot) right into my previous deposit [19:43] mancha: so with that hdd imaged, I'm one step closer to getting slack64 on the laptop. :D [19:43] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:43] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [19:43] and, probably 160G closer to needing a 1TB hard drive. :P [19:44] i have a question, but it's difficult to express... so i will try [19:44] antiwire so, the dems, libs and the DNC are all on a trip about smearing the good name of the American People who are just concerned about their nation. i'm disenfranchised personally, but, well oh well [19:44] \o/, down to the last 2 packages to build for kde 4.3 [19:44] i needed to set in /etc/hosts an alias for my server ip.. so 192.168.1.10 domain.com server is what it says [19:45] webbi alright but we answered this this morning [19:45] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] Quiznos: yes and no... because i "solved" the problem but now i have it again [19:45] add, 192.168.1.10 name.of.machine.youWant [19:45] ok [19:45] that, on a new line in the file. [19:45] those in power dont want to give up power so naturally they will resist change, even though obama is shifing things to the left things wont change that much because the rich & powerful are still in charge [19:45] Quiznos: the problem is that now cups took that domain.com alias [19:45] smack it [19:46] Quiznos: define "smack" [19:46] Pig_Pen yea, the people know [19:46] kill it, fix hosts, fix cups.conf file, then restart cups [19:46] mancha: thanx you a lot my problem is solved but what is this ? [19:46] bnhashmi, you're welcome :) enjoy your ram [19:47] but sir what option is this [19:47] dpmt fool yourself Quiznos [19:47] Pig_Pen im not. [19:47] i've been deprogrammed from the "normal" crap. :) [19:47] heh [19:47] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:48] Quiznos: yes, but there is where the problem resides, if i fix the hosts file, ie removing the domain.com, then sendmail will not be able to send emails [19:48] it is a patch for Windows NT to work on systems with mucho ram [19:48] sendmail has its own file and var to tell hostname [19:48] we told you that too this morning [19:48] :\ heh [19:48] er be install on, not work. [19:48] Quiznos: sorry, didnt read about that, maybe i miss the line [19:48] ok [19:48] lemme try to grep a log...' [19:49] and since you are not installing winnt on there, noneed to switch it on. [19:49] Quiznos: what i need to set in sendmail is the "return path" on the outgoing emails [19:49] webbi urchlay said this morning, Fw/etc/mail/local-host-names [19:50] tediosu (n=foo@217.146.88.13) left ##slackware. [19:50] ok well Urchlay will know that. i killed sendmail last century [19:50] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433276.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] thats called the "envelope" if you want a search tem [19:51] Quiznos: ok, anyway i have that with the correct params, but sendmail anyway set returnpath to apache@wcd.server.int which is my "internal" domain... then the mails are rejected [19:51] got taht webbi ? envelope [19:51] ok [19:51] Quiznos: thanks for the grep, i didnt read that today [19:51] mancha step up pls :) [19:51] ok tw [19:51] yw [19:52] isnt the target of sendmail's outbound to be the isp mail.lan? [19:52] webbi, users can set reply-to headers, which is what all sane mail apps shoudl use when using "reply to" buttons and functions. [19:52] Quiznos: really yes, but not in my case [19:52] to where than? [19:52] then [19:53] mancha: yes, but it's the return path field, not the reply to [19:53] Quiznos: i just found the solution [19:53] good [19:53] Quiznos: http://www.sendmail.org/m4/whoami.html [19:53] no no i dont care :) [19:53] pff [19:53] i will NOT ressurect sendmail demon [19:53] lol [19:54] hahaha ok [19:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] its Gawd's problem now [19:54] or, as the dagnotics here say, $DEITY [19:54] rofl [19:54] dagnostics [19:54] (Agostino's deli) [19:55] damn [19:55] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [19:55] (d'Agostino's deli) [19:56] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:57] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:02] laters folks [20:02] gn [20:04] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] Princess Leia actress has a new job on NBC [20:09] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:10] producer of Ferris Bueller and Breakfast club movies has left the building. [20:10] s/producer/Director [20:11] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:11] yeah just heard on the news [20:12] only 59 too; young very [20:12] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:13] senate voted for clunkers, +2b$ [20:14] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-50.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [20:19] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:21] Good ol' UPS: 08/06/2009 15:48:00 THE PACKAGE WAS MISSED AT THE UPS FACILITY, UPS WILL DELIVER ON THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY[X] [20:22] I guess they did not notice the little brown box with markings. :P [20:22] haha [20:22] fire|bird: I guess I wont be doing that backup until tomorrow :( [20:22] I guess not [20:25] how safe do you think it is to put a cluster of computers in a garage that gets almost 100 deg. F.? [20:26] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [20:26] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] that's maybe not the wisest idea if the garage gets so hot, but that's just my opinion. [20:27] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016927.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc2" [20:27] a friend of mine thought is is not safe at all [20:27] but i do not care if the hardware wears out... i just do not want it to ignite [20:27] tbh, I wouldn't do it. [20:27] It probably wouldn't ignite, but with that much heat, it certainly could do some damage. [20:28] The fans in the pc's, etc. may not be able to keep up to keep everything as cool as it should be, thus overheating, thus hardware failures. [20:28] yeah... it is mostly obsolete hardware though [20:29] i cannot put it in many other places without a lot of trouble [20:29] Well, ultimately it is your choice, but if it all fails, don't be too upset because you knew it could happen. :P [20:30] does the garage have a window? get a cheap 120VAC air conditioner window unit [20:31] it has a couple windows, but I am not sure the AC i have will fit [20:31] dchmelik: have any fans you could set in the garage too? :P [20:31] it is a medium to large garage too [20:31] i probably have a fan or two [20:31] maybe i can get one like you say [20:31] how many pc's will this be? [20:32] 5 - 6 [20:33] dchmelik: don't set them all right next to each other either, give them all plenty of space from each other for air to circulate around them. [20:33] and so heat from one doesn't affect the other ones. [20:34] http://imagebin.org/58674 rated G for good [20:34] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-185-190.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] an air conditioner will not only keep it cooler it will lower the humidity too [20:35] hahahaha, Pig_Pen s/good/great/ [20:36] yeah, humidity can be bad for things too. [20:36] well, brb. kde 4.3 is done. gonna log into it and see if it worked good or if I failed miserably. :P [20:37] whoops, I can't do that yet, my transfer isn't finished yet. :P [20:37] 12 minutes lef. [20:37] left [20:37] fire|bird: awww what a tease :P [20:37] OH MY G [20:37] IT'S KDE 4.3 [20:37] IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT [20:37] haha [20:37] kde4 rocks [20:37] i can't waite for it :P [20:38] grrrr 13 come out already! :-) [20:38] I built it myself, I'm hoping all went well with the build. [20:38] on 12.2 ? [20:38] and that when I log in to it there isn't a mess, but if there by chance is, I can easily go back to 4.2.4 [20:38] no current [20:38] oh ok [20:38] is it as fast as 3.5 ? [20:38] faster imo [20:38] :-D [20:39] is it as fast as 2.5? [20:39] I never used 2.5 so I have no idea. :P [20:39] it is as fast as... 0.5!? [20:39] hahaha [20:39] so i guess that if i ask which desktop is recommended, KDE4 will be the answer [20:39] you know what i think, fire|bird? [20:39] well, macavity's used kde since 1.1.2, he might know. :P [20:39] i think you made this whole thing up [20:40] amazon10x: nope, I made nothing up. [20:40] brb [20:41] amazon10x: /var/log/packages/kdebase-4.3.0-i486-1 [20:41] raymondmendoza (n=raymondm@cpe-67-241-90-254.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: [20:44] fire|bird: nice [20:44] is it awesome [20:44] not sure, haven't logged into it yet, waiting for this transfer to finish first [20:45] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [20:47] slack 13 needs to come out so that K4.3 can get in -current [20:47] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-30-158.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:47] amazon10x: that will happen eventually, be patient. :P [20:47] i can't wait any longer... i must have it... we... we wants it [20:47] [20:48] anybody experienced problems printing with cups, like... it prints but no? i mean... it prints, but the page still blank... and i have tint [20:48] amazon10x, dont get your statement [20:48] i dont get [20:48] guax: have you seen lord of the rings? [20:48] or read it? [20:48] amazon10x, the first one [21:47] slack 13 needs to come out so that K4.3 can get in -current [20:49] oh [20:49] amazon10x, for god sake, im on a irc channel from #slackware, of course i know LOTR [20:49] well, -current is marked as release candidate 2 right now, so no software will be upgraded [20:49] oh hell. [20:49] guax: hahaha, i didn't know if maybe you were from another country that doesn't know about it or something [20:50] Um, ok, this is broke. :( [20:50] but once slack 13.0 comes out then things can start being upgraded in -current, which i imagine will firstly be kde 4.3 [20:50] are you shure? =x, 4.3 seems to be more like a giant bug fix =P [20:51] amazon10x, i didnt kwew about that "rule". perhaps a upgrade like 4.3 would delay too much the release. think its quite right to keep it [20:51] knew* [20:52] Action: guax is quite shure he dont need to use knew with didnt in the same phrase [20:52] the garage here is not insulated... so i have to put it elsewhere [20:52] guax: generally a release candidate is just that, a candidate for release. that is, once you get a release candidate that has no bugs, it becomes the next version [20:52] would it be ok in a small room with the air conditioning only being from the hall? [20:52] guax: do you speak a different language? [20:53] portuguese [20:54] Alright, it's not broke after all, but the icons are messed up. [20:54] aside from that, kde 4.3 is awesome [20:54] dchmelik how hot do your boxes get? [20:54] fire|bird, you did compile yours? [20:55] get better fans! [20:55] two/box [20:55] guax: yeah [20:55] one inhaust; one exhaust [20:55] use hosery to block dust [20:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:56] whats hosery? [20:56] women's hosery [20:56] grrr good thing they removed arts from kde4 i hate it , i even removed it [20:56] ah pantyhose [20:56] snorks: womens panty hose. :P [20:56] yea [20:57] my database class is ending (finally). going home. see ya [20:57] they're very fine mesh, nylon [20:57] i was braining on how a water hose could be used to block dust lol [20:57] heh [20:57] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: [20:57] that too but needs more support! [20:57] lol [20:57] take this as a sign of me NOT being a crossdresser [20:57] nor would i make for a very good one [20:57] good [20:57] Quiznos: probably not that hot... they are mostly G3s and G4s [20:58] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [20:58] back in the day when fans wernt so good, i used hosery for dust filter on my box fan. did a good job for 1$ [20:58] dchmelik then stop obsessing about AC'd air :) [20:58] ok... [20:58] 100F woul dbe too much but from hallway would be fine [20:58] plus fan work [20:59] i doubt i can put a large fan in the room... it is near where i sleep [20:59] no, i mean in the box fans [20:59] I'm pretty sure you all mean "hosiery" [20:59] yea that wire. [20:59] ty [20:59] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [20:59] hosery is being a douche bag [20:59] heh [20:59] antiwire: I got kde 4.3 built. :) and the dd image is done and transferred. [20:59] hosiery is the woman's thing [20:59] and hosed means you fscked something up. :P [20:59] lol [21:00] lol [21:00] like I just did with kde 4.3 oxygen icons [21:00] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] I have no idea what I did or didn't do, but oxygen icons are gone. :P [21:00] aside from that, kde 4.3 rocks [21:00] ok; coffee's ready for tonight; now to open up its jug and let it cool for a few hours [21:00] greetings and salutations [21:00] greetings andarius, how are you? [21:00] and commissserations [21:02] antiwire: could you check something for me? Do you have an oxygen-icons package or something of the like on your machine? [21:02] I don't think I do, i don't add anything extra [21:02] fire|bird what's the pkg name? [21:03] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.68) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:03] kde in current has some oxygen icons [21:03] antiwire: ok, because oxygen is the icon theme that kde4 uses by default and seem to not have them now. [21:03] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:04] Quiznos: I'm not sure what it would be if it even is a package. [21:04] ok [21:04] filename to locate? [21:05] I got the oxygen-icons tarball from kde.org, but what installs them? I don't see any slackbuild or anything that slackware uses to install them, but somehow it didn't get them in the mix. [21:05] Where is it that icons are stored? /usr/share/icons or something? [21:05] great... i though cups was working and now found that it prints blank pages... :( [21:05] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:06] fire|bird: thats correct [21:06] lf4: ok, thanks. Oxygen isn't even listed in the System Settings. [21:06] might also check /usr/share/pixmaps [21:07] Hmm, I think maybe I can install them via System Settings Install Theme file, but still, they should have been included in my build I would think. I suppose I missed something. :P [21:08] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.9.43) joined ##slackware. [21:09] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) got netsplit. [21:09] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) got netsplit. [21:09] eduardo (i=eduardo@eduardovalente-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net) got netsplit. [21:09] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) got netsplit. [21:09] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.54.97) got netsplit. [21:09] bisco (n=bisco@moko.slackware.it) got netsplit. [21:09] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) got netsplit. [21:09] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) got netsplit. [21:09] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) got netsplit. [21:09] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) got netsplit. 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[21:15] moron (n=moron@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [21:15] I share one with 2 linux boxes and all I had to do was make sure 'share printers' was set [21:15] then set up other boxes to connect [21:16] i havent had a working printer in years; last one was stolen. hp 3-in-1; but linux didnt know it [21:16] well i have some weird things here... i tried to print from my linux box, using the shared printer from my server and it printed a blank page [21:16] brb [21:16] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [21:16] it appear to be printing, but the page is blank [21:16] :S [21:17] webbi, test page? [21:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [21:17] i got a coupon from Denny's restaurant for a meal -20% bill; i had to print at a print shop [21:17] have you tried a different ppd? [21:18] dive: test page and a simple document in openoffice [21:18] my one real gripe about printing on linux is that we home-users do NOT have ps or pdf printers so why is there so much emphasis on those two when we dont have those printers? [21:19] not one printer is identd as ps or pdf at walmart [21:19] if test page is blank from the machine that hosts the printer then it sounds like driver problem [21:19] or staples or officemax [21:19] Quiznos i like your nick [21:19] or bestbuy [21:19] ty [21:19] Nick change: obnauticus -> Blimpie [21:19] lol [21:19] dive: i will try from the pc that hosts the printer.. [21:20] Action: Blimpie kicks Quiznos's ass. [21:20] Action: Quiznos is fo0d not a fighter [21:20] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:20] dive: http://imagebin.org/58678 [21:20] Nick change: Blimpie -> obnauticus [21:20] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:21] nice [21:24] dive: the wallpaper globe is interactive or you can have it follow the sun, just rotate, or have it show openstreetmap or temperature maps, etc. [21:24] and surprisingly, it doesn't seen to cut down performance at all. [21:24] Asm '09 is going on in Finland right now. [21:24] what's that? [21:24] assembler conf? [21:24] Assembly demoparty [21:24] o [21:24] meaning? [21:24] a DEMO PARTY!!!!! [21:25] language, hardware, people's republic of? [21:25] code, graphics & music demos [21:25] ty [21:25] can anyone give me a link to the currnt dvd iso ? i lost mine [21:25] current* [21:25] -current? [21:25] or any? [21:25] yeah [21:25] -current [21:25] i like ftp.heanet.ie but it might not be there so new [21:27] dive: I got my laptop hard drive imaged now too, just trying to get it working with qemu [21:28] roger [21:28] Quiznos: thanks [21:28] yw [21:28] dive: it's failing atm right now though. :P [21:28] :/ [21:28] never a dull moment eh? :P [21:28] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d75-158-165-33.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] fire|bird: did you sysprep it this time? [21:31] antiwire: no, I didn't. I got it in a .bin file, do I need to convert that before qemu can use it? [21:31] think i'll buy some beer this weekend [21:31] a bin is just .raw [21:31] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:31] so it should just work? [21:31] there might be a need for loopbacking a copy of the MBR though [21:32] how is it failing? [21:32] FATAL: No bootable device is what I get. [21:32] could not read the boot disk [21:32] can you paste your qemu command? [21:32] qemu -boot d -hda /home/firebird/QEMU/windowsxp.bin [21:33] try using -drive file=/home/firebird/QEMU/windowsxp.bin instead of -hda [21:33] nope, same thing [21:33] I also get a cdrom boot failure code 0003 [21:34] Ah, this happens under Booting from cdrom. Is that right? [21:35] crap... again cups gives me forbidden [21:35] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [21:35] hello [21:35] You are forbidden, do not pass, go. :P [21:35] hello missyjane [21:35] Action: missyjane bows to fire|bird [21:35] fire|bird, -boot c do anything? [21:36] or are you trying to boot from cd? [21:36] \o/ [21:36] dive: that worked. [21:36] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Success [21:36] is there a -current cd 1 ? [21:36] boot d is cd [21:36] qemu -boot c -drive file=/home/firebird/QEMU/windowsxp.bin [21:36] boot c is hdd [21:36] dive: Ah, ok. [21:36] oops [21:36] I still have a lot to learn about qemu, but it will be well worth it [21:36] fire|bird, type 'qemu | less' [21:36] there's a current (unoffical) DVD [21:36] can i pm you fire|bird? [21:37] s/pm/pms [21:37] lol [21:37] superGear: i know but i only have a rw cd now :/ [21:37] you could make one [21:37] i guess [21:38] :-( [21:38] dive: windows is starting up \o/ [21:38] get ready for the HAL mayhem [21:38] ewww [21:38] deco, do you need to have a cd? Tried slackpkg? [21:39] I need to get a script that makes my computer beep when my name is mentioned in IRC haha :P [21:39] deco, what you runnin at the moment? 12.2? [21:39] antiwire: so far, it's working without having used sysprep [21:39] lf4, simple [21:39] beep_beep.pl [21:39] just giving me a wonderful "You must activate windows" :P [21:39] lf4, then we will say your name when we are bored [21:39] oopps [21:39] dive: yeah 12.2 , when i installed cd i just used cd1 and slackpkg the rest [21:40] superGear: haha that would be funny :) [21:40] fire|bird: I'll have to give this a shot then later. there have been a ton of fixes to qemu since i tried booting an image of a previously physical system [21:40] dive: lol i'll look for that. [21:40] if it works awesome [21:40] dive: grrr grammer fail, when i installed 12.2 i only used cd1 and slackpkg the rest [21:40] antiwire: Well, so far it works except asking for activation. [21:40] fire|bird: that's expected [21:40] fire|bird: sysprep can make that no happen [21:40] dive: so i need a type of cd1 for -current [21:40] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d75-158-165-33.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [21:40] fire|bird, buy a legit windows [21:40] not* [21:41] antiwire: Ah, so that's where sysprep would be nice. [21:41] superGear: ...this is a physical disk image booted into a VM... [21:41] Action: lf4 hasn't paid for windows since 98 [21:41] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [21:41] the cpu changed which causes a reactivation [21:41] ah well he would have to call cause of all the HD changes [21:41] it's not the HD [21:41] hardware [21:41] antiwire: haha, the mouse froze [21:41] its no problem calling lol its an automated system. [21:41] not HDD [21:41] at least not only that, the whole HAL has changed now [21:41] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving." [21:42] fire|bird: that's what happened to me [21:42] windows would semi boot and bomb out [21:42] antiwire: :P, Hmm, I wonder if sysprep would fix that too. [21:42] it's the al [21:42] hal [21:42] yeah [21:42] vmware has never given me problems [21:42] it might [21:42] and you can boot physical drives [21:42] superGear: have you created a disk image using dd and fed the bin into vmware as a file? [21:43] keyboard can't be used either. [21:43] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:43] fire|bird isn't booting of a physical disk. he's feeding it a dd image [21:43] ah [21:43] well i'm stupid pay no attention to me [21:43] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] not stupid, just like donny on big lebowski [21:44] antiwire: It's too bad that even simple things like a mouse and keyboard stop working. To bad you can't use those and then have it rescan hardware or something. :P [21:44] I'm not retarded >:/ [21:44] superGear: prove it. :P [21:45] i guess i have to install -current with unetboot , hope it works [21:45] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:45] I'm going to call people who jump into a troubleshooting session late and start suggesting no applicable stuff "donny" [21:45] deco, you better read up first [21:45] sup Donny [21:45] haha [21:45] dive: yeah i did [21:46] deco, at the very least download xz, pkgtools and slackpkg and install manually [21:46] the rest _may_ be a simple slackpkg upgrade [21:46] fire|bird: now i want ot try this [21:46] then install-new clean-system etc [21:47] fire|bird: might want to starting this one too, I just started http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457067.aspx [21:48] dive: after downloading those tools just i delete x/ and kde/ to be safe ? [21:48] should i * [21:48] fire|bird: i haz typos [21:48] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [21:48] antiwire: yeah, one thing's for sure also, after all this being ran on the laptop, I know there's no issues with it now, heat or otherwise, or it would have fried by now. [21:48] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:48] unetboot kills 7 [21:49] 7 what? donkeys? [21:49] 7 dead donkeys [21:50] deco, I don't think you need delete anything, the install-new and clean-system would let you do that _after_ reading about removed packages in changelog, change_and_hints.txt etc [21:50] 7 windows users [21:50] 7 process with kill -9 [21:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-204.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [21:50] fire|bird: I'm going to get a system ready for sysprep [21:50] this should be a fun exercise [21:50] cool [21:50] dive: thanks , i think i will go with the unetboot option [21:50] deco, read changes_and_hints and changelog for 12.2 and changelog for current [21:51] why you guys taking about windows is there and comparison with slackware [21:51] bbiab [21:52] Has anyone experienced issues with the latest xorg-server-1.6.3 in -current and nVIDIA's proprietary driver? [21:52] works fine [21:52] OK. [21:52] bnhashmi: ... [21:52] what's up donny [21:53] antiwire:sorry [21:53] but really windows is witindo just for playing games ;) [21:53] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [21:53] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.243.215) joined ##slackware. [21:54] antiwire: If you have access to WDS, it's pretty nice once you get it working. [21:56] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:56] bnhashmi: is that right? did you know that most of the administrators in here pull a paycheck form admining windows networks? [21:56] since my last update, the special effects from kde stopped working.. anyone had the same issues? [21:57] antiwire: How many full linux networks are there? lol [21:57] bnhashmi: windows is relevant when Slackware and Windows connectivity is the topic. In this case, we were talking about booting a windows VM on a slackware host which means he has Slackware tools to work with on the host OS side... [21:57] so it's relevant [21:58] back [21:59] antiwire: alright, I'll probably get sysprep going on the laptop now. :P [21:59] lf4: exactly [21:59] antiwire:may be but me did not coz i am a certified MCSE since 1999 but i didnot any advantage then in 2007 i moved to redhat as redhat certified engineer and now i am working on slackware i think that i wasted a lot of time with windows [21:59] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [21:59] sorry for my bad comments guys [21:59] screw windows [21:59] fire|bird: I'm making a backup image of my windows test system before i try to sysprep it and then i'll pull a dd image of the sysprep'd disk [21:59] all that stuff and you dont know shit [21:59] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:59] i am really sorry if i did heart you [22:00] snorks: eh? [22:00] Haha I'm thinking back to my former job the only linux systems were to monitor the cisco devices and windows servers. [22:00] yes you heard me [22:00] antiwire: cool. Also, is it possible to just mount the .bin file and browse the files that way? [22:00] yes [22:00] snorks: who was that comment to? [22:00] snorks: and whom are you speaking to? [22:00] one sec [22:00] and screw openbsd [22:00] k [22:00] im talking about bnhashmi [22:00] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [22:00] snorks: sorry really [22:01] why hate on openbsd? it's a new OS ;-D [22:01] dont apologize [22:01] a nice* [22:01] oops [22:01] my mcpid is 1401736 [22:01] fire|bird: how many partitions on that disk? [22:01] the bin image [22:01] antiwire: just one, windows for the whole thing. [22:01] this should do you: mount -o loop,ro,offset=32256 hda.img /mnt/mountedimage [22:02] awesome, thanks. [22:02] fire|bird: if it doesn't work let me know and we'll check the offset [22:02] ok [22:03] fire|bird, did you had any problems with kde special effects? [22:03] LnxSlck: nope, just an issue with the icons [22:04] humm [22:04] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [22:05] LnxSlck: the icons issue was probably something I missed somehow. :P [22:05] I had the oxygen icons tarball though so I just installed that from System Settings [22:06] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] anyone know of a mirror that's close to california to download the -current dvd iso ? [22:06] darchstar (n=ameer@cpe-65-25-12-68.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:07] deco: utah.edu? [22:07] y0 agentc0re [22:07] deco: or USC< i think there is a USC.. [22:07] fire|bird: sup mang? [22:07] fire|bird, my kwin keeps rashing [22:07] hey guys, how can i change the shell of a user, when i run chsh as user it tells me i cant change it [22:07] agentc0re: just working with my laptop to sysprep it. you? [22:07] agentc0re: thanks going to try it [22:07] darchstar: usermod i think [22:07] You need to be root to chsh. [22:07] LnxSlck: i first read that as, "my twin keeps rashing"... just didn't sound right. [22:08] hahahaha [22:08] lool [22:08] ahaha [22:08] agentc0re: after reading what you said, I read it the same exact way [22:09] thanks dchmelik [22:09] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [22:09] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:09] fire|bird: wow.. what a great thing to wake up and do :P hehe. sysprep is easy. I do lots of imaging at work. a great tool to use is nlite http://www.nliteos.com/ [22:09] quasar: HAHAH [22:10] triplc (n=tri@118.70.126.21) joined ##slackware. [22:10] triplc (n=tri@118.70.126.21) left ##slackware. [22:10] agentc0re: Ah yeah, I've heard of nlite before. [22:10] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:11] makerc (n=makerc@201-42-166-11.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:11] it's nice because you can add just about everything to your install.. even all your drivers. [22:11] fire|bird: when you are done, burn it to cd or dvd and pop it in and away it goes. [22:11] what sucks is that somewhere within windows, drivers are messed up so that if I type on the keyboard, the mouse and keyboard freeze, so I have to connect an external usb keyboard. [22:11] agentc0re: Do you think using a a windows XP sp2 cd is ok to use for sysprep'ing a windows XP SP3 disk? [22:12] fire|bird: I use it for the stupid custom built boxes that the last admin built. [22:12] brb [22:12] webbi (n=webi@190.247.201.22) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:12] agentc0re: awesome, thanks for reminding me about nlite. I haven't messed with windows for a long time. [22:13] antiwire: Why are you having to put in a disk for sysprep? [22:13] darchstar (n=ameer@cpe-65-25-12-68.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:13] antiwire: And my first guess is probably not because the i386 dir's are going to be different. [22:13] agentc0re: I thought sysprep was part of the additional adminpak [22:13] you can slipstream it and then make a new cd. I've done that before. [22:13] yep i will [22:13] I've done that too [22:14] antiwire: Oh okay. That's what i'd do tbh. sysprep is part of it but you don't need to put in a cd to complete sysprep. [22:14] agentc0re: Is it nlite that can do slipstreaming too or is that some other program? I've slipstreamed stuff before, but can't remember now. [22:14] i just need sysprep and setupcl in the same dir [22:14] that seems to be a key [22:14] antiwire: fire|bird: other nice thing about nlite is that it will slipstream the service packs for you. [22:14] what [22:15] what's the best way of downloading -current ? [22:15] agentc0re: awesome, so that is the program I was thinking of then. thanks. [22:15] i mean what's the best way of downloading all the directories [22:15] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD89A73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [22:15] deco: with a fishing rod? [22:15] lol [22:15] sky hooks [22:15] sky net! [22:15] uh oh [22:15] chopp: nah i can't because it's stuck up your ass [22:16] antiwire: oh, btw, that mount command failed, unknown filesystem type ntfs. :P [22:16] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "testing over" [22:16] fire|bird: do you have the ntfs-3g stuff? [22:16] deco: wrong answer flipboy [22:16] chopp: when you're done can i have a go? ;) [22:16] fire|bird: one sec [22:16] agentc0re: I thought I did, but now that reminds me, I was having issues with fuse earlier not starting, could that be it? [22:17] could be [22:17] fire|bird: potentially. [22:17] triplc (n=tri@118.70.126.21) joined ##slackware. [22:17] deco, I would go with the way I mentioned earlier [22:17] triplc (n=tri@118.70.126.21) left ##slackware. [22:18] ok, so if I figure out why fuse won't load, this mount issue may be fixed. [22:18] dive:so download and install xz, pkgtools and slackpkg riht? after that i should comment out a current slackpkg mirror and just upgrade ? [22:19] alright, kde 4.3 text for desktop icons is interesting on a black background, there's a halo that makes things a bit harder to read. [22:19] fire|bird: did you have have the ntfs-3g drivers? [22:19] fire|bird: i just tested and that mount command should work fine without an fs spec [22:19] agentc0re: I think so, yes. I'll have to double check. [22:19] antiwire: ok, so probably fuse then huh? [22:19] if it still fails you can losetup and then mount the loop0 using an FS spec [22:19] agentc0re: if this wasn't the damn internet there'd be nothing left for you....so sure [22:19] fire|bird: also, do you have the plain ntfs driver module? [22:20] antiwire: can I check that with lsmod? you mean if it's loaded or if it's in the kernel? [22:20] agentc0re: nlite download complete. :D [22:20] modprobe --list | grep ntfs.ko [22:20] fire|bird, modinfo should output something if it's in the kernel [22:21] antiwire: nope, nothing. :/ [22:21] that's probably why [22:21] custom kernel? [22:21] yeah [22:21] doh! [22:21] agentc0re1 (n=agentc0r@209-181-84-143.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] I can boot to 2.6.29.6, that has it, doesn't it? [22:21] it should yes [22:22] antiwire: until now, as long as I've been on linux, I've never worked with ntfs stuff. :P [22:22] Wow, that was awesome! I clicked on mousepad in xfce and it crashed X. [22:22] worked with it in linux that is [22:22] agentc0re1: \o/ [22:22] agentc0re1, -current? [22:23] dive: No, i'm running slamd64 still.. just waiting for 13 official. [22:23] ah ok [22:24] What will happen to slamd64 after 13 official? [22:25] it will essplode [22:25] Will Fred Emmott become an official Slackware daddy? lol [22:25] agentc0re1: nlite is installed, but gives a Runtime error. :P [22:25] LMAO [22:25] are you using vista fire|bird? [22:26] agentc0re1: XP :P [22:26] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.9.43) left irc: Success [22:26] fire|bird: hrmm.. weird. [22:26] reinstall the .NET stuff [22:26] maybe a restart is required? [22:26] .NET problems can cause runtime issues [22:26] NthDegree: I just did yesterday. [22:26] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD896A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:26] agentc0re1: worth a shot. :P [22:27] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [22:30] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:31] agentc0re1: nope, same thing. [22:32] maybe it needs an ocx [22:32] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:32] does runtime error mention anything useful? [22:33] This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. [22:33] :/ [22:33] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] tell the runtime to terminate in usual ways, then [22:33] yet another simple windows message [22:34] antiwire: haha, the cd I have for windows doesn't have the cab file sysprep even needs. :P [22:34] all runtimes should terminate in usual ways. [22:34] well that's irritatin' [22:34] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:35] if I leave screen running in an xterm, then ssh in and "screen -D -R" to take control of it, the xterm dies [22:35] Hmm, the link you gave me, antiwire, doesn't have anything about a cab file. [22:35] screen -D -RR [22:35] Urchlay: you need one more R [22:35] nope, does the same thing [22:35] ydiw :P [22:35] happens locally, too [22:35] odd [22:37] try it: start 2 xterms, run screen in one, run "screen -D -RR" in the other. See if the first one disappears. [22:37] Oh, great, just great, I have the sysprep folder, but it's friggen empty. [22:38] you need to install the tool [22:38] fire|bird: stop deleting files already! [22:38] it's on the XP cd in support [22:38] antiwire: you mean a support folder on the cd? I don't have that folder. [22:39] lol [22:39] is this xp home? [22:39] thumbs: can't.....stop......must......delete....delete......dekete [22:39] antiwire: XP MCE [22:39] that's why [22:39] lol [22:39] argh [22:39] MCE is just home with multimedia extensions [22:39] I thought it was Pro with extras. [22:39] haha [22:40] fire|bird: if you right click my computer and choose manage, is users and groups available? [22:40] the Windows logo on start shows blue, which is what pro uses, home is green. Ah heck, I don't know. [22:40] Well, at least manage is there. [22:40] that's in all of them though [22:40] is users and groups X or usable? [22:40] antiwire: Local Users and Groups? [22:40] yes [22:41] can you go in there [22:41] X, Library not registered. [22:41] haha [22:41] I don't find this very funny. :P [22:41] that means MCE can't even do domain logins [22:41] RaNdY (i=randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:41] crap [22:41] This pc I'm on has an XP pro disk. :P [22:42] Well this is just fine and dandy eh? :P [22:42] you wanted home? :/ [22:43] I WANT PRO. [22:43] All I have for this laptop is XP MCE and XP Home [22:43] sucks [22:43] fire|bird: PM? [22:43] fire|bird: PM? [22:43] ut oh! [22:43] get in line! [22:43] sex0r him up [22:43] a/s/l [22:44] Action: lf4 steps behind thumbs [22:44] The XP MCE disk has recovery console, but even that can't fix this. :P [22:44] cyber begins [22:44] oh gawd, what am I in for here. [22:44] bart9h (i=bd185e10@gateway/web/freenode/x-c8141146ba51de33) joined ##slackware. [22:44] color me ignorant, but I see openldap-client available (and installed), but what about openldap-server? I've looked on slackbuilds and sbo, and can't find what I want [22:44] sure, go ahead. :P [22:44] antiwire: could I use the Sysprep off a Dell XP Pro disk? [22:45] sure [22:45] n1 know how to sort files in a directory? (I want `ls --sort=none` to show files in correct order) [22:45] that's what i'm going to use [22:45] antiwire: Hmm, alright, I'll try that then. [22:45] ls | sort [22:45] tried creating a new dir, and moving the files one by one, but it didn't work [22:45] guys [22:45] ok im gonna try this out but.. [22:45] once I get to the right zippered cd case for it. I have over 40 cd's. [22:45] mmlj4: have you read the question? [22:46] s/40/400 [22:46] mmlj4: [22:46] nope [22:46] mmlj4: I don't want to sort the output of ls [22:46] have you read mine? [22:46] no, but I didn't tried to answer without reading :) [22:48] I have no idea what you mean... do you want to rename the files into some sort of order? [22:49] fryguy: I want `ls --sort=none` to show them ir order [22:49] that is, the order readdir(1) return the files [22:50] alright, found that disk. here we go. [22:50] Good luck :) [22:50] what I want, in the end, is to create a torrent with the files in correct order. I pass the directory to the buildtorrent utility and the files are unsorted [22:50] lf4: thanks [22:51] antiwire: This one says pro on the disk, I KNOW this one is right. :P [22:51] user8937 (n=user0432@99.138.183.95) joined ##slackware. [22:51] lol [22:51] bart9h: perl -le 'opendir D, "."; print for readdir D' [22:51] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-122-247.ip.mhcable.com) joined ##slackware. [22:51] Ah, there's Deploy.cab [22:51] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:52] eh, or ls --sort=none works (I didn't even know it existed, cool) [22:52] Hi all. [22:52] I just updated to 12.2 [22:52] greetings ganeshix [22:52] :) [22:52] It wasn't difficult at all [22:52] but 13 is almost out :> [22:53] hey fire|bird:) [22:53] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [22:53] Good. I'll use the same skills to upgrade to 13 [22:53] It'll be easier this time, I hope :) [22:53] hey hitest [22:53] how goes? [22:53] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:53] :) It goes well. you? [22:53] Urchlay: that doesn't help. you don't understand the problem.. I don't want to be able to see the physical order of the directory [22:54] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.243.215) left irc: "Saindo" [22:54] btw i bet nlite bombed because of MCE [22:54] freak I'm blanking a disc and it seems to have taken over my system lol I cant even VIM a config file. :P [22:54] hitest: going excellent, thank you. Just working on the laptop getting it syspreped and then the fun of a dd image (3-4 hours) begins again. [22:54] cool [22:55] transferring slack onto it? [22:55] is there such thing as "most stable current"? [22:55] Nick change: draeath -> draeath|away [22:55] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:55] draeath|away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [22:55] there is only one current [22:56] what? [22:56] there can be only one.. MORTAL KOMBAT! [22:56] oh haha [22:56] RC2 is very stable for me [22:56] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:56] rc2, eh? [22:56] im just trying to figure out the best place to get iso [22:56] for current, thats all... [22:56] slackware.no or make your own [22:57] hitest: getting this syspreped (windows) and then going to image it to put it on my slack box here in qemu and then the laptop will get slackware64 [22:58] nice [22:58] eviljames: yeah, rc2, don't you check the changelog? :P It became rc2 just today. [22:58] sigh [22:58] yep [22:58] hi [22:58] oooh [22:58] hi juice [22:58] someone told me about that site [22:58] meh i was afraid for a bit...... ok ok ok sorry [22:58] i have to get sleep tonight [22:58] bart9h: don't want to see the physical order. OK, ls does not show you the physical order by default... you're right, I don't understand the question [22:58] I been going for the past week on like 3 hrs a night [22:59] fire|bird: been oot & aboot today, just sitting down now actually. [22:59] Urchlay: ls show the physical order if you pass --sort=none [23:00] Action: eviljames is rsycing [23:00] right. Which is what you don't want. So what *do* you want? [23:00] s/rsycing/rsyncing/ [23:00] MAUAHAHHAHAHAHA [23:00] Action: missyjane is downloading current, aug04 and plans to install it [23:00] im insane, i know [23:00] lol [23:00] I want `ls --sort=none` to show the correct order [23:00] >.> am i not? [23:00] depends on the day? :P [23:01] bart9h: but what is "the correct order" exactly? alphabetical? ordered by date? what? [23:01] doesn't matter which order [23:01] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-122-247.ip.mhcable.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:01] Urchlay: sounds like he wants it by sectors :P [23:01] you're making me dizzy, going around in circles [23:01] start over: define the problem in great detail, as though I were a complete idiot :) [23:02] the stupid buidtorrent program does its `readir` and doesn't sort the files. the list of files of the creatted torrent is a mess [23:03] oh, this is for a torrent you're creating? [23:04] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:04] (sorry, I'm only just now paying attention) [23:04] Nick change: lf4 -> attention [23:04] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:04] wheres my money? [23:04] Action: quasar thinks attention is a whore. [23:05] quasar: lol maybe but i get paid for it ;) [23:05] that's always a plus :) [23:05] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:06] seriously [23:06] Action: quasar goes back to his c++ documentation [23:06] on average, are all current really that risky? [23:06] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:06] are you g uys saying that released like 12.1 or 12.2 are guarnateed to work on all 386+ system? [23:06] missyjane: dont think it'd be RC if it was too risky :) [23:06] what makes it... stable/ [23:06] bart9h: if it's a torrent you're creating yourself, you could copy the files into a new directory in the order you want them [23:06] Nick change: attention -> LF4 [23:06] ? [23:07] quasar: know any good books to learn Cpp in linux? [23:08] missyjane: current can run just fine for however long, but updates happen frequently and stuff can break/not work properly and therefore you need to either know how to fix it, or wait for another update that does fix it. [23:08] LF4: I wish, I'm reading some site right now that is putting me to sleep .. it seems a lot like some of the scripting languages I have learned lol [23:08] quasar: whats the site? [23:08] missyjane: I'm running 12.2 on two Plll 850s. they run well. [23:09] antiwire: sysprep is in progress. :D [23:09] bart9h: interesting but annoying fact: filenames aren't even stored in the order they're created, in a brand new directory [23:09] and, it's done. :P [23:09] LF4: cplusplus.com [23:09] dang, that was quick [23:09] Urchlay: they're big. I wanted to set the order by moving, instead of copying. But looks like it doesn't work. :( [23:09] fire|bird: I'm creating a "pre sysprep" image as a backup and then I'll sysprep and then give the sysprep'd image a shot [23:09] quasar: lol interesting i'll check it out. have you looked at programmersheaven.com [23:09] antiwire: well, sysprep literally takes just a few seconds. :P [23:10] bart9h: actually, setting the order by copying won't work either (at least not on ext2/ext3 filesystems) [23:10] antiwire: I didn't make an answer file though, I'll answer that stuff myself. [23:10] fire|bird: it's really just mucking around in the registry and a few other key system places [23:10] bart9h: mkdir foobar; cd foobar; for i in a b c d e f g; do touch $i; sleep 1; done [23:10] fire|bird: yeah you don't need one unless you need to deploy to a lot of systems [23:10] i heard that ext4 is faster than ext2/ext3 [23:10] ls --sort=none [23:11] LF4: nah, that's just what "I'm feeling lucky" sent me to.. I will though [23:11] I get: a e c b f d g [23:11] antiwire: so, now the dd imaging begins again. :P [23:11] fire|bird: i so hope this works [23:11] it would be awesome [23:11] so here goes about 3.5-4 hours [23:11] they're being stored in some sort of hashed order [23:12] LF4: it's not loading for me right now.. I'll try again in a bit [23:12] fire|bird: I'm using my windows XP test bed and it is only a 40GB disk and I am dding across dual channel ata100 [23:12] antiwire: I wish I had a different way to image it aside from across usb, it'd be a lot faster. [23:12] if I were you, I'd start looking at the buildtorrent program with an eye to modifying it (what language is it in?) [23:12] marchhare (n=M@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 3.1.1 (June '09)" [23:12] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.54) joined ##slackware. [23:13] antiwire: haha, you'll get done before I do then. :P [23:13] fire|bird: i dunno, i'm going to dd twice [23:13] twice is nice but one is fun. :D [23:13] quasar: yeah me either... man I hope they did not go down :( that site has been excelent for a long time (joined 2003). [23:14] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:14] antiwire: that's true. I already have the one image I can mount, so I can just dd once again here [23:14] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [23:14] antiwire: I'm doing this from a slax live cd, if I have that in ram and run, would that go faster, or does dd need a lot of ram? [23:15] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Client Quit [23:15] well since you are doing it over USB it won't matter [23:15] hitest, thats not surprising, since it is released, but i wanna know what makes it..s table, how do they say "AH HA, this version will work on all pc!" [23:15] fire|bird, i figured that much out, which is kinda a pain in the ass [23:15] antiwire: ok, thanks. [23:15] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [23:15] missyjane: they don't [23:15] missyjane: I think it's fun, but then love fixing computer issues, etc. :) [23:15] and sometimes it doesn't work on all systems [23:16] but then I* [23:16] which is strange, then how do they know when to actually release it? [23:16] thats my biggest question [23:16] antiwire: It's amazing how cool this laptop runs now. It's awesome. [23:17] One little problem. After updating virtualbox, I can't un my virtual machines. [23:17] 'kernel driver not accessible' [23:17] Nexxus (n=Guest679@208.69.211.196) joined ##slackware. [23:17] reload the kernel driver then try it [23:17] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [23:17] how do i stop ssh on slackware? [23:17] rcd Nexxus [23:17] the old kernel module is probably still loaded in memory [23:17] or google Nexxus >:( basic question [23:18] there is nothing in /etc/init.d [23:18] Nexxus: stop as in it doesn't start with the pc? [23:18] this system already dd'd 16GB of 40 [23:18] im not gonna lie, kubuntus kde4 is the ONLY reason why im attempting this lol [23:18] missyjane: they test, and re-test it. people submit bug reports. it runs like a top for me.....and I'm talking about -current:-) 12.2 is a rock. it will run until your hardware fails. love it. [23:18] well i want to run /etc/init.d/sshd stop but its not in there [23:18] Nexxus: as root /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd stop [23:18] /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd stop [23:19] ok cool [23:19] the /etc/init.d dir is only there for compatibility with other Linux distros [23:19] does slackware come with iptables? [23:19] antiwire: oh for crying out loud, stop bragging Mr. Speedy Gonzalez. :P [23:19] Nexxus: yes [23:19] Nexxus, yes! nub question >:( read the slackbook [23:20] yes first day on slackware [23:20] hitest, bah... im just afraid ill get problems, thats all... [23:20] first day on linux apparently too! [23:20] no just on slackware [23:20] :) or youd know [23:20] impossible >:( [23:20] http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=slackware+iptables .. amirite? :D [23:20] cause other flavors use iptables too [23:20] i was on gentoo [23:20] and youd know how to do search on iptables on your system >:( [23:20] re [23:21] missyjane: -current is smooth as silk over here [23:21] hitest: same here. I just built kde 4.3 :D [23:21] Nexxus: netfilter is part of the kernel and iptables is the userspace tool for manipulating the kernel stuff [23:21] ``yea, schmoof like river'' [23:21] slackware rules [23:21] RipVanWinkle, vboxdrv is up [23:21] Nexxus (n=Guest679@208.69.211.196) left irc: [23:21] fire|bird: cool [23:21] nor a part of the linux name [23:21] namespace [23:21] hitest, what month? [23:21] However, I keep receiving the same message [23:21] missyjane: aug 4th [23:21] ok [23:22] very motivational [23:22] http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/rabbit :D [23:22] did you check lsmod and top to make sure everything was gone from memory & unloaded? [23:22] Lor' luv a duck! Yo 'ow are my fellow slackers? Know what I mean? [23:23] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@209-181-84-143.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:23] so what event occured that i missed? [23:23] Nick change: agentc0re1 -> agentc0re [23:24] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:24] wow, in Toronto Canada, there's a 7 year old kid that was driving the car at speeds over 70, dad in passenger seat telling him to go faster, and mom and young child in the back seat with no seat belts. [23:24] Action: missyjane plans to stab a clown and detonate a nuclear bomb in china if current fails horribly for her [23:24] All I had to do was to add my user to vboxusers. Problem solved. [23:24] what is it about clown sex? [23:24] i dont get it [23:24] im not having sex with a clown [23:25] ok [23:25] hahaha [23:25] im going to stab that clown todeath [23:25] missyjane: lol [23:25] red wig maybe? [23:25] spiraled hair? [23:25] red nose [23:25] and BIG shoes? [23:25] that honks [23:25] i dont get it [23:25] get what? [23:25] sideshow Bob? [23:25] some people fear clownx? yet others engage in play with em? [23:26] s/x/s [23:26] bart9h: hm. Lookin at buildtorrent now, you're right, the results are hideous [23:26] bob's just annoying [23:26] some kind of fetish too i hear [23:26] slackware current is almost done [23:26] 34 minutes [23:27] fast [23:27] wahtcha doin jane? [23:27] i wonder if i should install it today or tomorrow... [23:27] Quiznos, dling the current [23:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:27] for a real geek ythere is no time; it's all NOWNOWNOW [23:27] its very slow [23:27] ah [23:27] antiwire: dd is in progress. :) [23:28] damn i missed TMZ [23:28] bart9h: it looks like the code could be rewritten to use scandir() instead of readdir() [23:28] missyjane: install tonight, it doesn't take that long to install, unless your pc is ancient or something. :P [23:28] but i dont feel like waiting [23:28] i wanna go to bed now [23:28] in fact i will go to bed now.. im tired... [23:28] gn jane [23:28] good night everybody [23:28] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] nite [23:29] good night missyjane [23:29] nite missyjane [23:29] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: "night <3" [23:29] we are femless; let us bow and beg $deity for another. [23:29] heh [23:29] antiwire: http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/08/07/0117221/NASAs-New-Telescope-Finds-Exoplanet-Atmosphere?from=rss OOOHhhh!!! very cool. [23:30] sleepytime [23:30] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:30] gn [23:30] wow he's fast [23:30] no ceremony at all [23:30] or are you just slow? :P [23:30] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:30] that too [23:30] thats what she said. [23:30] [in bed] [23:30] heh [23:30] ... [23:30] lol [23:30] hey dive [23:30] hey [23:31] dive: yet another dd in progress. [23:31] after being sysprepped [23:31] antiwire: 2.6G complete :/ [23:31] this may take a while [23:31] 11.2 MB/s [23:31] where's the iso? [23:31] it's a lot of trouble it seems, but I guess it's a good excerise [23:31] and its source dir? [23:31] i want tgz only [23:31] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:32] er exercise [23:32] and its changelog [23:32] damn rc2.. we gotta wait longer :) [23:32] i was never really a version jumper [23:32] comp__ (n=comp_@210.150.186.60) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:33] argh! copying the files still don't work! grrr..... I give up. must patch the torrent creator code. [23:33] you won't get tgz only for -current or 13, lots of packages use the new txz compression [23:33] This used to work in ext2. I even had a sortdir alias in my bashrc [23:33] Action: Quiznos ponders switching to another format [23:33] does alien handle txz yet? [23:33] fire|bird: While you wait, i'll tell you a story of how my better day today started off to give you a taste of how this week has been going.. :D [23:33] Urchlay havent heard of it, only the new lzip [23:33] bart9h: scroll up a bit. There's no way to do it with readdir() that works on all filesystems [23:34] fire|bird: You are forced to listen, unless you quickly change my colors to black. :P [23:34] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [23:34] I was going to make a sort patch for irssi so that completing filenames would be in a credible order but didn't get very far [23:35] bart9h: I don't know if this is an ext2 vs. ext3 thing or what, but on slackware 12.2 anyway, filenames do NOT get stored in the directory in creation order (it's some kind of hash function order maybe, semi-random) [23:35] fire|bird: So i'm riding my motorcycle down the freeway, and am half way to work. Something catches my eye next to my front wheel and wow.. It just so happens that my headlight came unscrewed and fell out.. [23:36] who's SusanLinton? [23:36] agentc0re: yikes [23:37] fire|bird: Get to work and fix it.. No big deal, we have some tools there. Get back in and go take a piss. We have this HUGE mirror in our bathroom for whatever reason, so i get to watch myself pee. I trimmed the good ole beard today and low and behold some how i managed to put railroad tracks on the underside of my chin... WTF? I don't know how it's possible.. i have guards on my beard trimmer... [23:37] lol [23:37] hahaha [23:37] bart9h, if you get anywhere making a patch so that readdir() output can be sorted, please let me know [23:37] TMI TMI TMI [23:37] i'm not responding to any of that [23:38] bart9h: ah, on ext2, they *do* get stored in creation order (at least, in a newly-created directory, which hasn't had any files deleted already). So the answer is, use ext2, if you don't want to write a patch for buildtorrent [23:38] no, write a patch and gimme :> [23:38] fire|bird: I'm sure you can only imagine how the rest of the day went. [23:39] agentc0re: indeed. :P [23:39] dive: the patch wouldn't "fix" readdir() to return entries in order. Instead, it would make buildtorrent use scandir() instead of readdir() (since scandir() already exists and knows how to sort entries) [23:39] or should I say, choo choo. :P [23:39] agentc0re, it got better? [23:39] found alienBob's posts; he any good? [23:39] DERP [23:39] should i become a disciple of Bob? :) [23:39] Quiznos: yes, very good. [23:40] fire|bird why? [23:40] he's a developer [23:40] Urchlay, yeah I wasn't thinking about fixing readdir(), just sorting the output afterwards, but if scandir() works better I might have a look at it [23:40] Quiznos, bow down before the one you serve [23:40] SirBobDobbs you're alienBob? [23:40] i dont bend that way :) [23:40] heh [23:40] no heh 4 u [23:41] For all of your amusement, http://imagebin.org/58690 [23:41] i dontget it [23:41] funny shit [23:41] dive: LOL... sure. I demoted one of my fubar'd Domain Controllers today.. that didn't go so well. I'm just glad i fixed it quickly. [23:41] lol the uberalles lookpeepers LOL [23:42] dive: you might look at the latest CVS before sending a patch, it may already be fixed... [23:42] looken peepers [23:42] s/CVS/SVN/ [23:42] agentc0re, lol at that pic [23:42] eh, except no, it still uses readdir() in CVS [23:42] SVN [23:42] keep your head down, nobody may notice Ä [23:43] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:44] dive: :D [23:44] ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ [23:44] i tried to upgrade my 12.2 to current i deleted kde3.5 and installed kde4 but when i try to run it i get this kstartconfig4 can not start [23:44] deco, LOL! [23:44] dive: It looks worse in person TBH. You can totally notice it if i am looking straight at you which is how i saw it in the mirror. [23:44] SirBobDobbs: :P [23:45] dive: And we had a meeting with our new phone vender today about our phone system upgrades. [23:45] Urchlay, my main gripe is that say using tab complete on /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 will bring up filenames in no order at all, when it ought to inet1 inet1.conf inet1.conf.orig for example [23:45] i bet they all thought i was some god damn fool... [23:45] LOL [23:45] deco, rm ~/.k* -R [23:45] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.54.97) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:45] deco, good luck [23:45] dive there is order; it's just not recognisable [23:45] deco: did you fully upgrade from 12.2 to current or just try to do kde? [23:45] SirBobDobbs: that won't get everything that needs to be removed. [23:46] .kde isn't the only place [23:46] antiwire, i dont use kde...i expect it to be crap [23:46] antiwire: well i installed xz,pkgtools and slackpkg from current and removed all of kde 3.5 and installed k/ from current [23:46] deco: also update gzip [23:46] deco: that's all? [23:46] antiwire: yeah [23:46] you didn't install anything else? [23:46] but with -current its all or nada [23:46] deco: upgrade the rest... [23:46] FAIL [23:46] that's not going to work at all [23:46] antiwire: well l/ and d/ [23:46] deco: If you didn't upgrade gzip.. you better do so.. before you upgrade anything else [23:47] Dominian: ok will do [23:47] what happened to gzip? [23:47] Quiznos: gzip has to be upgraded to deal with .txz as well [23:47] deco: and tar.. upgrade tar [23:47] make sure you upgrade those last two before you go any further [23:47] ok; was/is there error in pre -curr versions? [23:47] Dominian: ok thanks [23:47] Quiznos: no.. in -current .txz is the package format [23:47] but why is gzip affected? [23:48] http://thereifixedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/trevors-batterypower.jpg [23:48] oh the extension processing [23:48] that person is a genius [23:48] juice: HAHAHAHH [23:48] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:48] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:48] LMAO!!! [23:48] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] is anything else a problem in gzip before -current? [23:49] if your a lesbian looking for gay sex....theres an app for that. [23:49] http://thereifixedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/yoshi-keys.jpg [23:49] fake [23:49] both of these go hand and hand [23:49] Quiznos: there's no problem with gzip that I'm aware of unless ther eis anything in /patches for the version before -current [23:49] like seriously what are people thinking [23:49] juice, ITS THE JUICE! [23:49] fake [23:50] lol [23:50] Dominian ok; i can see how file extension wuold have to be adjusted for txz [23:50] but tgz string processing never worked well for me [23:50] aye [23:50] nerdville extreme [23:50] whos drunk [23:51] when I installed FF 3.5 on 12.2 I just installed xz, used it to decompress and then gzipped it to tgz [23:51] what's xz again? [23:51] dive, DERP ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/3.5.2/icecat-3.5.2-i386.tar.xz [23:51] heh, 16G of 160G. :P [23:52] dive, DE DERP ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/3.5.2/icecat-3.5.2-i386.tar.bz2 [23:52] dive: BTW, scandir() works pretty good, see the example code in "man scandir" [23:52] Urchlay, k will look into that after spag bols [23:52] good night all [23:53] dive, DELEDE DERP ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/3.5.2/privacy_ext.xpi [23:53] gn [23:53] gn Quiznos [23:53] night hitest [23:53] you do have to compile with -D_GNU_SOURCE to use versionsort, though [23:53] night fire|bird [23:53] SirBobDobbs, why are you spamming icecat links at me? [23:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] lol [23:53] dive, cuz firefox is so 2006 [23:53] uhm [23:54] firefox 3.5.2 came out what, last week? that was in 2006? I want some of what you're smoking... [23:54] keep ahead of the curve people [23:54] heh [23:54] they're all buggy IMO [23:54] Urchlay: and icecat has the same version # as FF. :D [23:54] mine shit runs fine from /dev/shm/ [23:54] ff, opera, seam, all of em [23:54] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "to kill or be killed... no question there moron!" [23:55] well i'll give it a try [23:55] anyway, what the hell, you're in a Linux channel, where we use things like ls and cp and rm, which are "so 1976", and we like 'em [23:55] heh [23:55] i was kool with DOS [23:55] Action: Quiznos struts [23:55] heh [23:55] works with all firefox plugins i use, adblock noscrpit, quickproxy trackmenot [23:56] i still looking for opera src code [23:56] why, you could write it in a weekend [23:56] SirBobDobbs: that would be because "icecat" is just Firefox without the copyrighted Firefox brand name and icon. The actual code *is the same*. [23:56] just a bunch of ui crap over a browser lib [23:56] yea but im not really a app-coder; i can write alittle tho [23:56] Urchlay, there are changes [23:56] icecast ~= ffox? [23:56] small ones, but still, its better than firefox's google whoring [23:57] *shrug* [23:57] Quiznos: you won't find opera source code, it's not open source even. [23:57] hmm berry interesting [23:57] fuck google. [23:57] fire|bird yea, i know lamentably [23:57] I don't really see what "google whoring" means in this context... I mean, I do use google, because I like to use it, but my browser doesn't force me to. [23:57] i'm having a prob using opera because it's !FOSS [23:58] Urchlay, well firefox 3 is UGLY! [23:58] I use google a lot, webmaster tools and analytics are great [23:58] SirBobDobbs: no uglier than firefox 1 or 2, or netscape 4.x, or IE... [23:58] dive, i should have logged into mine after spamming google for a year [23:58] I mean, you're in here to troll, fine, enjoy it [23:59] but don't expect everyone else to play along [23:59] uh, disagreement doesnt equal troll [23:59] yea! that's my job! [23:59] :) [23:59] your opinion is jack shit, who cares [23:59] FUCK GOOGLE! [23:59] you said "google whoring", I asked for a definition, you switch to "but it's ugly" and then "fuck google", that sure sounds like trolling [23:59] he be amateur [00:00] --- Fri Aug 7 2009