[00:00] Is there anyway to find out the size of a file in MB? or list it in MB? [00:00] kleanchap: what app are you using to view it? [00:00] command line [00:00] man du [00:00] kleanchap: google? [00:00] du hast mich [00:00] -h for human readable [00:01] 1MB = 1024KB [00:01] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:01] each succesive prefix is 1024 of the last one [00:01] unless changed, hence the "man du" [00:01] mfillpot, wouldn't be suprised..strange,that the ones who use Mandriva would ask a bit more about it than the Ubuntu users [00:02] never in human history has so much information been readly available to anyone with a internet connection, shocking how many people don't use it [00:02] ls -lah [00:02] MLanden: I think they get content with all of the assisted tools that still don't work properly, but it sparked some good discussions [00:02] darkwurm, post that wisdom on google. [00:02] Action: mfillpot agrees with Cann0n [00:03] andarius, Thnx. du -m did it. [00:03] mfillpot, awesome [00:03] http://noobfarm.org/?id=830 [00:04] MLanden: I think I will give a presentation on setting up iptables and packet filter, including the differences at the next meeting [00:04] You know what I realived I have NEVER had? A foot massage. [00:04] andarius: lol [00:04] lol,andarius....sounds like one of your exit messages..:P [00:05] s/realived/realized [00:05] Action: kleanchap does not like free advice like "google it", "google is your friend", "google knows more than your wife" ....... blah blah blah [00:06] kleanchap: www.letmegooglethatforyou.com or www.lmgtfy.com [00:06] kleanchap: then your lazy [00:06] kleanchap: how about "man ls" then? [00:06] somehow,after reading that....I'm thinking of the intro to the Jackson's Can You Feel It...:) [00:06] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:06] kleanchap: what distro are you running? [00:07] mfillpot, SL13 [00:07] kleanchap: theres any number of places to get information without having to ask anyone [00:07] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.9.18) joined ##slackware. [00:07] it would be one thing if it was something not so readly available [00:07] kleanchap: then you should have thought to use the "ls" manpages, you can learn a lot from them. [00:07] how to maximize xterm window to full screen? [00:07] < easy questions [00:08] I wish I didn't have my tail removed. [00:08] asking a quick question here only gives you a small answer, if you read the documentation you learn much more that help you later [00:08] darkwurm, when are you hanging out in the Slackware room? I am pretty sure it is to discuss slackware related issues, and hopefully not to give easy advise like "google it". [00:09] s/when/why [00:09] mfillpot, you could answer an easy instead of babling [00:09] kleanchap: how is that a slackware question exactly? [00:09] lol....remember one asking about xterm size and responding.."I got to learn geometry?!?" [00:10] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:10] usus12jari (~ashe@114.56.252.113) joined ##slackware. [00:10] MLanden, and what is so so funny about that ? [00:10] newbie2010: is that your way of saying that you want me to help you? [00:10] kleanchap: this is the best chan. All other chans will either tell you to come here, or be complete dicks [00:10] that is my way of saying piss on yourself if you don't like my way [00:10] :) [00:10] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [00:10] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:11] newbie2010: how about you click the maximize button or read a manual? [00:11] now let me go back to work you little worthless poof [00:11] kleanchap: I expect to answer questions after some effort has been made on the poser to get the information themself [00:11] no,newbie210..wasn't referring to you....something I read on a blog a while back [00:11] whatever [00:12] end of transmition [00:12] idiot [00:12] newbie2010 (newbie201@41.252.9.18) left ##slackware. [00:12] wow [00:12] wow, that was a mouthy noob [00:12] wow [00:12] kleanchap: it's rather obvious you didn't cause you would have found it on the first reasonable attempt [00:12] damn.....go my head bit off..:D [00:12] I want to eat a cat. [00:12] s/go/got [00:12] sorry guys, I'm in a bit of a mood today [00:12] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:13] Action: fire|bird gets out a needle and thread to sew MLanden back together. :P [00:13] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [00:13] mfillpot: we need foot massages. [00:14] Cann0n: I just a need a few more beers [00:14] darkwurm, Looking back at the channel logs, I did not see any help from you to anyone. [00:14] mfillpot: I wish I had beers... [00:15] kleanchap: You know how to do that? :P [00:15] reminds me, mine is empty.... [00:15] kleanchap: or did you ask someone. [00:15] *sigh* [00:15] It's a guinness and jager night for me [00:15] This is a long shot... Does anyone skate here? [00:15] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:16] Cann0n, roller or ice? [00:16] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] MLanden: Longboard [00:16] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [00:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:16] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:16] y0 MLanden [00:16] heya,fire|bird [00:16] Let's not argue about it...its not worth it. Not a nice way to start the day/night. :-) Peace [00:16] kleanchap: you heading out? [00:17] Cann0n, not in quite a while [00:17] Cann0n, In a little while....why? [00:17] kleanchap: I sometimes get any context of the work "peace" with "goodbye." [00:18] Damned hippies... [00:18] LOL [00:18] s/work/word [00:18] Hey,I like granola [00:18] I like raisens [00:19] I like pizza [00:19] pizza............ mmmmmmmmmmm..... [00:20] Hey, Publix has a pizza in the froozen isle. It's "Italian" in the name. [00:20] shalkie (~shalkie@166-70-208-58.ip.xmission.com) joined ##slackware. [00:20] My typing is dramatically inaccurate recently... Anyways, it's the best frozen pizza ever. [00:21] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:22] It's got sausage, pepperoni, salami and some great spices. If you live near a Publix, I highly recommend that pizza. It's thin crust. [00:22] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:22] who wants easy fuel for a flaming fire? [00:22] Me. [00:22] hmmm...free gas?!? [00:22] holy shit. brb. sounds like a tornado [00:23] some in redmond went off in an article about MS haters, it would be good to get a few haters to chime in [00:23] Plasmastar (plasmastar@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Excess Flood [00:24] here it is if you choose to have your fun... http://redmondmag.com/articles/2010/02/01/dont-be-hatin.aspx [00:25] user2438 (~user45925@adsl-76-250-129-38.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] man we got like 30-40mph winds [00:26] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Cann0n: where are you located? [00:27] North FL [00:27] USA [00:27] Cann0n: ah, I figured that since you were talking about the winds that you were being hit by the same system as I am [00:27] Where are you? [00:27] Cann0n, where 'bouts?...got relatives in North Central 'round Lake City to Tally [00:28] Cann0n, regarding the winds, im sorry i had a lot of veggies [00:28] I'm in a small town right between Jax and G-ville [00:28] lol [00:28] G-ville = gayville? [00:28] lol jeev [00:28] Keystone Heights. [00:29] Cann0n, are you in one of thsoe small towns where americans who make less than 20k/year are afraid that we're going to be socialist? [00:29] jeev: godzillaville [00:29] had an aunt who iive north of you,Cannon in Starke [00:29] user2438 (~user45925@adsl-76-250-129-38.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:29] jeev, such towns make me hate politics with a passion [00:30] King_Ozzy, yea.. those dumb ass people who are missing teeth.. who want the health insurance companies to make endless amount of monies. [00:30] Cool cool. That's 30 minutes away. [00:30] my insurance just went up i think 30-40% [00:30] in one year [00:30] jeev: worst. I live 1000ft from a swamp. [00:30] jeev: stop drinking and driving [00:30] lol [00:30] i dont even go to the doctor [00:31] I'm on 2.5 miles of dirt road. [00:31] Cann0n, any springs by you? [00:31] they hid a "doesn't go to doctor" fee in there rofl [00:31] heh yea [00:31] MLanden: I got a buddy in Lake City [00:31] Man, you got hit by that tornado a few years ago? [00:31] i think the insurance companies know their days are numbered.. that's why they're jacking up rates [00:32] Cann0n, cool...really has build up over time [00:32] MLanden: yeah, Goldhead. I'm right by Camp Blanding too. They blow shit up all the time. rocks our house. [00:33] only thing that rocks my house are my morning farts [00:34] Cann0n, heard my cousin mention that a few times before [00:34] escaflown (~elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] escaflown (elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [00:34] jeev: I hate it when fat chicks roll of the bed and flop on the ground. Feels like a 2.0 [00:35] MLanden: I got a buddy out in lake city. I haven't seen him in years. [00:35] I've been trying to make it a point to visit him, but i just don't have gas. [00:35] s/gas/gasoline [00:35] tonight I got the warm wet farts that reak of egg yolks and salad dressing... [00:36] just have relations there...live in Virginia myself [00:36] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:37] eh [00:37] That's cool. It's bmeen many years since I been up there. [00:37] i've never had a fat chick in the bed [00:37] jeev: oh man... you is missin' out my friend. They are mighty fun. [00:38] Cann0n, that's fine... i'd rather be breathing harder than the girl. [00:38] darkwurm (~dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:39] jeev: I like ugly chicks too. They make me feel good about myself. [00:39] Cann0n, was your area caught in the firezone that happened while back? [00:40] Cann0n, uh, that's a problem too. i better be the uglier one of the couple, unless if i'm fortunate enough to have two girls, i dont mind the other being ugly. na i do actually [00:40] Yeah, but I didn't live here then. [00:41] jeev: I had an ugly girl cheat on me once... talking about a crap feeling [00:41] ahahaha [00:41] why would she turn down any opportunity [00:42] she's gotta take them while she can [00:42] Skywise... you sir, have a wonderful mind. [00:44] :-) [00:44] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [00:44] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:44] lolwut (1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:45] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm done for now [00:46] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:48] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [00:48] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [00:48] King_Ozzy (King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left ##slackware. [00:50] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:51] Nora Miao was hot in the 70s [00:52] `Dante` (~dante@c-76-98-25-7.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] John Travolta can pull of that bald look in his new movie... [00:53] He normally has than Grease hair doo in all of his movies [00:53] i dunno, i was thinking his head was too round and lumpy [00:54] It's a better part than the time he played an old fat chick in Hairspray. [00:55] i thought that pink dress was nice [00:55] hard to believe they had it in his size tho [00:56] I liked that fat chick that played an that movie... [00:56] s/an/on [00:56] i thought ricky lake was cuter [00:56] LOL [00:57] my ; key came out... [00:57] I'd nail Ricky Lake. [00:57] i'm sure she's got skillz [00:58] lmfao [00:58] I like freaky fat chicks. they are WAY more fun than a moped. [00:59] i can't get with skinny chicks, too many angles and elbows [01:00] i could never figure out the attraction of women with the figure of pre-pubescent boys [01:00] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3124A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [01:00] how many peter pans do you need [01:00] oh i wonder if that Mel Gibson movie is good [01:00] he seems mighty angry in it [01:00] LOL yeah... [01:00] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3124A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:01] I don't like Mel. He was good in Braveheart, that was about it. IMO [01:01] i kinda lost him after mad max [01:01] i cant believe john travolta is in another movie... [01:01] he vanished for a good long time [01:01] Tom Hanks needs to play an action role... [01:01] dude, do you know how much jet fuel costs? [01:01] Cann0n, rofl. [01:01] He is good in every movie he played in. Saving Private Ryan was a badass movie too [01:02] saving private ryan wasnt badass because of tom hanks though imho [01:02] yeah. I liked Tina Turner better in the post apoctolyptic era [01:02] i dont think travolta gave a shit about his kid who died [01:02] Skywise, why on earth are you looking at jet fuel pricing? [01:02] since he was sick [01:02] epoch, cause travolta owns a 767 r something [01:02] or something [01:02] and everyone has ultra high performance junk cars [01:02] Oh no, but he played a good part. [01:03] jet fuel is actually cheap. [01:03] Anyone running vmplayer on SL13? I had installed it a while ago and now when I try to start it, I get the message vmmom is not loaded. Is there a script for vmware to use in /etc/rc.d? [01:03] not when you buy it by the ton [01:03] it's 2 bux a gallon [01:03] Saving Private Ryan was just an over all badass movie. ton hanks is my favorite actor. [01:03] i bet travolta shits himself every time he lights those engines [01:03] it costs 2k just to idle and taxi to the runway [01:04] probably costs 10k to turn it on haha [01:04] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:04] He's good in all his movies... unlike Robin Williams who was only good when he did his adult stand up. [01:04] robin williams was sick in Ms Doubfire [01:04] doubtfire [01:05] LOL [01:05] That sally fields is asking for trouble... [01:05] I'd stick it in her poop shoot [01:05] i dunno, it was mostly awkward [01:05] the republicans are so smart, they're funded by the richest companies and people.. they have great marketing abilities, they just funnel some money to others, they use that money to get the rest of the morons in the country into the tea party [01:05] unbelievably gay [01:05] i'll tell ya a funny movie, madagascar [01:06] Something about guys in drag just... makes me feel uncomfortable in my pants [01:06] the airplane launch sequence was epic [01:06] theres no one in the tea party [01:06] grazymax (~grazymax@host90-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [01:06] its just a fox news ad campaign [01:07] I think crack heads are funny. The post-ruined-life ones are the funny ones. [01:07] hell they're following what idiot alan keys, who tends to run infront of any conservative parade if they let him [01:08] Mrx3000 (~pat@20.110.208.203.cable.dyn.gex.ncable.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:08] dude couldn't win dog catcher [01:08] I was in 3 parades. [01:09] did he push past ya? [01:09] Mrx3000 (~pat@20.110.208.203.cable.dyn.gex.ncable.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [01:09] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:09] man handled me like val kilmer did that laser back in the 80s... [01:10] lol [01:11] apparently now he's leader of the teabaggers [01:11] who still don't know what that means [01:11] lol. [01:12] I heard there was suppose to be a two part live action remake of Akira with Leonardo DiCaprio [01:12] set in NYC [01:12] It's suppose to come out this summer. [01:13] why not [01:13] functionoverform (~IceChat7@adsl-99-141-202-163.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q) [01:13] you can't say its worse then anything else out there [01:13] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:13] I hope it does. Though, I know theyd ruin Akira. Hell, the anime killed Akira, which was actually a total of 8-10 hours or something [01:13] soon they'll be a live action mr magoo [01:13] so there is a ton missing in the anime [01:14] true that. movie makers aren't making up now shit. [01:14] yeah, rehash something popular and cash in [01:14] There already was. [01:15] well they've done cat in the hat and curious george [01:15] yep. I was working on a screenplay for a movie. [01:15] Time for Green Eggs and Ham...lol [01:15] I mean, Roller Derby has a movie... [01:15] I want some Downhill skateboard action on a movie [01:15] yep. [01:16] I can't think of not one thing they haven't touched... [01:16] i was gonna say another title in sarcasm, but figured someone would actually make it anyway [01:16] i'll say it anyway [01:17] Skaperen, all ears....(-_-) [01:17] i'd like to see try and make a live action babar [01:17] My kids aren't going to know about TMNT's... or Transformers [01:17] or GI Joes [01:17] sorry...Skywise* [01:17] LMFAO [01:17] nick completion is tricky when theres a few hundred on the channel [01:18] oh wait, now that they've done avatar, babar is next [01:18] foiled again [01:18] Babar... I like elephant, but I'd like to see Babar smoke some PCP and rob a bank. [01:18] WTF is up with Saw? Aren't they making a 7? [01:19] well, theres not much left to do [01:19] Rupert the bear. [01:19] maybe they could have him do health care [01:19] now that'd be scary [01:19] Yeah, movies aren't about plot no more... It's about graphics [01:20] grazymax (~grazymax@host215-36-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:20] I hated Star Wars Ep 3 [01:20] i only saw the first 2 [01:20] which are now 3 and 4 or something stupid like that [01:21] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:21] I saw half my school there opening night... same fuckers used to make fun of me for being a "star wars geek" [01:22] well the new stuff is cool which means its not [01:22] Star Trek was raped too. [01:22] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] talkin' 'bout Star Wars...for a good laugh,check youtube or googlevideo and watch the Star War's Holiday Special [01:22] Suddenly, thousands of people become "trekkies" [01:23] yeah, i don't like it when people confuse hollywood scifi for real scifi [01:23] but they couldn't pick picard from a police line up. [01:23] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [01:24] yeah... it's not scifi anymore BTW. It's SyFy... [01:24] yeah, i've always wondered about star trek stores that sell red tunics [01:24] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [01:24] I can't believe the SciFi channel changed... [01:24] why would anyone wanna be the red guy [01:24] It's like TechTV [01:24] yeah, that just shows how dedicated they are to appearance over substance [01:25] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:25] true,Cannon.....callin' it somethin' lame like SyFy [01:25] That was how I heard about linux for the first time. On the Screensavers (show) [01:25] i never watched anything but sg-1 on that network [01:25] andromeda was good until it went all bdsm crazy [01:26] When TechTV was cool to watch [01:26] john_dee (~id@95-29-145-104.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:26] yeah, they actually had stuff [01:26] I used to watch it all the time. Twilght Zone, Quantum Leap, etc etc [01:26] Plasmastar (plasmastar@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [01:26] instead of anwering why doesn't what i want happen when i click the screen [01:27] but i don't fault tech tv too much, cause they did go broke doing the right thing [01:27] Have you guys watched XPlay ever? [01:27] and now they gotta shill for their sugar daddies or the money stops commin [01:27] on G4? [01:27] no, i don't even own an xbox [01:27] Cann0n, may have caught it once or twice [01:27] It's stupid as fuck. They gave a game a 2 star rating, turned around and have the SAME GAME but ported to another system a 4 star rating... [01:28] speaking of which, xbox live is dropping support for the originals [01:28] Cann0n: I know at least one game where that'd be true [01:28] then,mod the $hit out of it..:P [01:28] hello [01:29] but paying for online support and still getting cancelled is a kick in the nuts [01:29] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:29] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) joined ##slackware. [01:29] Skywise: They're under no obligation to continue the service forever [01:29] or let you use your game for as long as you own it [01:29] defective by design [01:29] i have a script that takes a screenshot and uploads it to a website. i want to pop up a little notification box wehn this is done. i know i can use something like zenity from the commandline, but i want something that is unobtrusive (bottom-right corner of the screen) that will auto-close in 3 seconds or so [01:30] ep0ch (~epoch@epoch-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] seems perfectly fair, even tho the money they took doesn't expire [01:30] amazon10x, which WM/DE are you using? [01:30] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.54.224) joined ##slackware. [01:30] xfce [01:30] LSD`: I do too, but it was a Sonic game ported from N64 to the Gamecube, but there was no updated graphics. It was directly ported. [01:31] Splinter Cell Chaos Theory for Xbox is 100 times better than for the PS2 [01:31] alienBOB: hey, lxappearence appears to be running in circles. http://pastebin.com/d44f11cc6 Any clue to why? [01:31] amazon10x google notify-send [01:31] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@193.92.198.193.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:32] MLanden: perfect. thanks [01:32] amazon10x, np..good luck [01:33] i like using a mouse and keyboard in fps over a gamepad by miles [01:33] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.70.36) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:33] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:33] I was in South FL looking for work and met this dude who invited me over to play halo. Instead, he just insisted on watching videos of him playing halo 3... it was pretty stupid. I left. [01:34] wow [01:34] I like using my modified SNES controller. [01:34] agentc0re, is there a wrong reference to any of the desktop.files in the conf? [01:34] i'm just quicker and more accurate slewing a mouse then a thumbstick [01:34] I don't care for modern games. I still rock the Sega Gen. [01:35] thats the last console i ever bought [01:35] cause it was like the 3rd in 4 years and i was tired of that treadmill [01:35] I just wish my new laptop had a serial port... gotta convert the control to usb [01:35] yeah I agree for FPS's [01:36] i got the nes, then snes then the genesis and that was it [01:36] Mouse with the aoe, keys (dvorak key map) [01:36] some good retro games (i.e. MSX,Atari XE) over on pouet.net [01:36] MLanden: /shrug.. i'm trying to build the program. i dunno why or how that would affect it. [01:36] i like mame for old arcade games, but when i use my gamepad ,its cordless and lags too much [01:36] The N64 controller was OK for FPSs. Nothing since then though. [01:37] Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is my favorite game. [01:37] i don't get the n64 controller. what was the point of the triple prong? [01:37] yeah, sonic is very cool [01:37] i loved the parts where you just go zooming thru more then the obstacles [01:37] amazon10x: people with 3 arms [01:38] oh yeah. it's the best game. It's got a story. It's colorful. Beatable in a day. secrets. and no bells and wistles. [01:39] and that soundtrack [01:39] not to mention, i got 9999990 (highest score) once [01:39] Action: BP{k} thinks a large portion of this conversation should go in ##slackware-offtopic. [01:39] donkey kong country was also good in that way [01:39] <_< [01:39] I play sonic on slackware. [01:40] wait really? [01:40] i don't know why people object to offtopic conversation when theres nothing otherwise being said [01:40] tell me how [01:40] Skywise: same [01:40] BP{k}: ... that doesn't exist... i thought it got changes to ##slackware-OT ? :D [01:40] Action: BP{k} slaps agentc0re [01:40] Skywise: well, i was going to cure cancer in here, but didn't bother because of the chatter :P [01:40] ouch [01:40] my bad [01:41] i was only trying to be social with a group of people, you could even go as far as to say i was socializing [01:41] well, i'm gonna head out. [01:41] but i'm not a socialist, not that theres anythign wrong with that [01:42] night fellas [01:42] nite [01:42] Cann0n (1337@dialup-4.91.99.23.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:42] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: dont be silly, of course that was a stupid question... [01:45] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [01:47] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [01:50] sorry,agentc0re..misread the symptoms...there may be a glitch with building lxapperance and intltool [01:52] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [01:52] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-72.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [01:53] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [01:54] Nick change: weirfghliewugfh -> provoni [01:55] hello #slackware [01:55] hello [01:55] ep0ch (~epoch@epoch-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:57] ep0ch (~epoch@epoch-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] I still could not get KDE to display properly. I am out of ideas [02:09] anyone have any idea how to get Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] to work properly in Slackware to run KDE? [02:10] slackwarebob (~bobby@adsl-76-249-232-130.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:11] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:11] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [02:12] Xnextihoc, it is a card that is known to work? [02:13] what does the log file say [02:13] it is a laptop [02:15] I was able to find on Arch Linux forum that someone is running GUI and his lspci is awfully similar to my [02:16] but I copy his xorg.conf, but it still didn't work [02:16] juice (1000@67.48.17.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:16] are you using slackware 13? [02:16] I was using Slackware 13, but yesterday someone was suggesting to me to go with 12.2, so I installed 12.2 now [02:17] why was that person suggesting 12.2 ? [02:18] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC31209.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:18] hmm.. I am not sure now, can't remember, he thought it might the intel driver in 13 that is different. [02:19] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:20] what does the X log file say? it is somewhere in /var/log/ [02:20] I had no idea whatelse to do, so I just installed 12.2 just to see. But it was able to atleast display something with i810 driver [02:20] errors have "EE" on the line [02:21] tank-man, That was the log I kept when I was running 13 [02:22] paste it to a 'pastebin' [02:22] correcaminos_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [02:22] clipboard like site [02:22] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3124A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:23] in git, if i have an outdated branch, how would i pull from the git server to make it 100% up-to-date? [02:23] http://pastebin.com/d23aea283 [02:24] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:24] i810? that's a blast from the past [02:24] The thing is, last night, I downloaded and tried several other live CD linux distro [02:25] pcchips motherboard? [02:25] and most of them don't work, except Berry Linux. [02:25] is a old P3 laptop [02:26] nevermind on that git questrion, im stupid [02:27] what i saw on intel 810 video card, was on a pcchips socket 7 motherboard...and i put an amd processor in it [02:27] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [02:27] s/in it/on it/ [02:27] Xnextihoc, did you try using "vesa" ? [02:29] M1ck_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:29] yes, with version 13, vesa won't load into KDE at all or just blank screen. But with version 12.2, I was able to get something, but distorted [02:29] When I was using version 13, pretty much just fatal error: no screen found [02:30] I was able to load into KDE when running 12.2 when specifiying i810 or vesa as driver. But both gives distorted display [02:31] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:31] It is really fustrating, cause I really wanted to start learning more about linux and it seems like Slackware is great to learn. [02:32] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [02:33] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-72.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:33] not "linux's" fault, its the hardware manufactureers [02:35] I found some newer Intel driver online, but is .txz, when I try to update it kept saying I need .tgz [02:35] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [02:35] txz is the new format used in slackware 13 [02:35] and you said youre on 12.2 now :P [02:36] yeah [02:36] so is there a way to figure out why Berry Linux live CD can load properly into KDE? [02:37] then configure it the say way in Slackware? [02:37] same way [02:37] perhaps compare config and version numbers [02:38] config as in xorg.conf right? [02:38] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.153) joined ##slackware. [02:39] yea [02:39] but what version numbers should I look at, and how do I find it? [02:40] the other thing is, since it is a live CD, does it create the xorg.conf everytime it loads? [02:40] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [02:40] i think the version number should be at the top of the log file [02:41] what is the path to the log file? [02:41] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:42] xorg.0.log? [02:42] it should be somewhere in /var/log/ [02:42] something like that [02:44] let me boot into berry linux and check [02:45] correcaminos_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:46] I would have just stick with Berry linux for now on the laptop, but I couldn't get the touchpad to work. [02:46] Xnextihoc, imps/2 synaptics? [02:47] I think is synaptics, I try adding that in xorg.conf, but that didn't work in berry linux, and the keys on keyboard didn't quite match either [02:48] codemonkey (~Bob@c-76-114-90-80.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [02:49] Would anyone happen to know how to get slackware 13 x86-64 to support a Hitachi HTS545050B9A300 sata drive? [02:50] ep0ch (~epoch@epoch-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:51] when I load into KDE in 12.2, eventhough the display is distorted, I can still see the cursor moving around. But in the xorg.conf I don't remember seeing synaptics in it [02:51] codemonkey (~Bob@c-76-114-90-80.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:52] shadowx (~7350@93.183.131.3) joined ##slackware. [02:52] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left irc: Quit: later [02:58] in Berry the verson # are X Server 1.6.3.901 [02:58] X Protocol Version 11 revision 0 [02:58] Linux 2.6.18-164.el5 i686 [02:59] Karu (~alch@78-28-100-41.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [03:08] Any one know how to reverse scp through an ssh tunnel? [03:08] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@193.92.198.193.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:09] I created an ssh connect to a server but now need to scp a file from the server back to this machine. I've tried just ~/ but that doesn't seem to be working. [03:09] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:15] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC31209.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:16] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:18] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:19] wow, it is working now. I copy the xorg.conf from berry linux and overwrite the one in the current slackware folder [03:20] it didn;t work when I try that in version 13, strange [03:22] ep0ch (~epoch@2001:470:1f10:4b2::3) joined ##slackware. [03:28] SOUL_OF_R00T (~l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [03:28] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-24.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:28] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:30] nice day for abybody [03:31] It's 01:30 here :) [03:32] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.54.224) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:32] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-219-77.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:32] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-24.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:33] epdv (~chatzilla@t54fc4120.pool.terralink.de) joined ##slackware. [03:33] Xnextihoc (~xnextihoc@cpe-76-174-201-240.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:36] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:38] what's the group i need to be in for usb drives to automount? [03:39] what groups are you in? [03:39] wheel [03:39] lol [03:43] hmm, looks like it should be plugdev [03:44] yes [03:45] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [03:46] gazra (~quassel@nrbg-4dbe6f79.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] hmm, i still get an error. i logged out and back in [03:47] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [03:47] "Failed to mount" "Rejected send message" [03:48] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-208-35.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] I'm attempting to make my first slackbuild script, but when it does makepkg, it has the config file in usr/share/doc/ instead of /etc . Here's my slackbuild script I'm using: http://dpaste.com/155314/ can you see what I'm doing wrong? [03:50] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [03:52] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.153) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:52] woah, Reticenti my brother has the same name as you [03:52] heh [03:52] its not a very common name [03:55] also, the config file is in doc/scrobby.conf [03:56] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) left irc: Quit: velusip [03:58] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) joined ##slackware. [03:59] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:59] but for some reason, makepkg wants it in /usr/share/doc/ [03:59] darkwurm (~dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [04:02] nooper (~nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:04] hello, ppl [04:04] can someone if this *.swf plays properly on any of your players? [04:04] http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N6PPGHD0 [04:04] check** [04:05] i can't launch it properly with anything except mozilla, which isn't very convenient [04:05] provoni (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [04:06] Reticenti, in line 40..what does $TMP $PKG become? [04:06] hmm [04:06] should that be $TMP/$PKG [04:07] wait [04:07] no, because $PKG has $TMP in it [04:09] i dont know tbh [04:09] rabbitear (~johnbrown@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Reticenti, it's somewhere in the variables...the share directory has to come from something [04:10] hmm [04:10] returning to slackware after years :/ gnu stuff still works better... [04:11] guys, anyone can play this 3mb media file with your player? [04:11] http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N6PPGHD0 [04:12] Asido: why would you want to do that? [04:13] i need player, which could launch it properly and could foward the video [04:13] now for me works with mozilla only [04:13] but it isn't very convenient [04:14] mplayer and vlc gives sound only, no video [04:15] oh well... maybe buy a faster machine, sounds like... [04:15] machine has nothing to do with it [04:16] it's a stupid flash movie, which works even on 486 [04:16] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.198.205) joined ##slackware. [04:16] anybody can help me with the setup to onr client box using slack foy ine access point local [04:18] gazra (~quassel@nrbg-4dbe6f79.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:18] actually even mozilla would be ok, if i could foward the video [04:19] but there isn't such function, right? [04:19] larry65 (~larry@d122-105-195-111.adl8.sa.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:19] Asido: download the vid, and have mencoder make it something else.. [04:20] Asido: it seems pretty important to you that one video... [04:20] anybody can help me with the setup to one client box using slack for one access point local, i known the setting already have been made but noy known i made it in slack box ??? [04:20] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-208-35.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:21] rabbitear, not this particual video. i have 60 hours of great tutorial which i want to watch [04:21] and all like this one - *.swf [04:21] SOUL_OF_R00T: I just finished one..... but what I learned in 4-5 days.. is, only ath5k drivers are crap, and madwifi still rules :/ [04:21] maybe other ath5k drivers will be good, thats not the case for this old hardware.. SOUL_OF_R00T [04:22] mplayer plays *.flv [04:22] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:22] rabbitear, mencoder is a soft? [04:22] i dont have a mode to install nothing with no made this conected [04:23] Asido: ya, its the 'encoder' 'converter' inside of mplayer [04:24] but I don't know about *.swf's and how they actually contain the *.flv's (supposively, thats what they are) [04:24] SOUL_OF_R00T: mode?? [04:26] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-100-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [04:27] SOUL_OF_R00T (~l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [04:28] SOUL_OF_R00T (~l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [04:28] dchmelik (~d@71.93.27.3) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [04:30] does anyone here use ssh-askpass / [04:30] ? [04:30] only enough to read the manpage [04:34] SOUL_OF_R00T (~l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Fui embora [04:34] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:34] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-208-199.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:24] larry65 (~larry@d122-105-195-111.adl8.sa.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:25] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:30] person (~ed@92.17.128.118) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:37] it seems my tty2 is stuck, how should I "kill" it? I want to get a login prompt back [07:37] hahah, fuck: it only took a ^Q >< [07:37] lol [07:37] hey say fuck 8 more times [07:38] firetruck! [07:38] Read The FUCKING MANUAL you dork! [07:38] like: for i in $(seq 0 7); do echo fuck; done ? =) [07:39] Camarade_Tux: your syntax is incorrect there is no "like: " or "? =)" lol [07:39] heheh ;-) [07:40] How did you get tty2 stuck? [07:40] so much questions. [07:40] I'm from the undernet.... [07:40] Camarade_Tux: "yes fuck" :P [07:40] thats where we get to be drunk... [07:41] Razec (1000@187-27-197-160.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:41] lf4: Ctrl+S ;-) [07:41] pprkut: \o/ [07:41] but, basicly if we wall up and do work, we do have to have those skills of reading manuals [07:41] sorry [07:41] :) [07:41] and thankyou. [07:42] Action: lf4 is confused by rabbitear's ramblings. [07:43] I have nothing to say, why are you confused? lf4? [07:44] Then say nothing [07:44] well, you so fuck, I say read the manual [07:45] Please calm down and watch the language rabbitear [07:45] yes sir alienBOB [07:45] Better [07:46] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@188.4.1.92.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:46] hmmmm, I'm starting with screen and... it doesn't do vertical splits? only horizontal ones? :o [07:46] actually my saying is 'bad script', but lets not pick on strews [07:47] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Camarade_Tux: I think it can do vert splits as well (might be thinking of irssi). :/ [07:48] love my new pc and slackware64 :D [07:48] hopefully Bartron [07:48] got lm_sensors working [07:48] yeah [07:48] :) [07:48] thats great! [07:48] screen only does vert splits if you patch it [07:49] always cool to know what your meaning Bartron [07:51] no I don't have any problems........ I got my server, newly again, to email to gmail... [07:51] so I can see whats going on.... [07:51] notKlaatu: yeah, at first I only found references to a patch to screen but it seems it might get merged or might have been merged [07:51] `Dante` (~dante@c-76-98-25-7.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] but you'd definitely need a version released in 2008 or 2009 [07:51] it would be nice if it got merged [07:52] just remember back in the days we do actually pick every option [07:52] so as tiring as it might be. [07:52] seems 4.0.3 is the latest version and the one I have, so no luck here [07:53] i have taken to using ratpoison for a lot of my previous screen needs. but only for certain workflows. [07:53] Camarade_Tux: have you tried ^a +| [07:53] why you saying ratpoison in this room [07:53] there is dwm notKlaatu ... [07:54] more stuff because ratpoison is just a chat site anymore [07:54] ignore rabbitear [07:54] lol [07:54] ^a | didn't do anything [07:54] madman [07:55] thats cool, I'll go, afk [07:55] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-16-53.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:55] notKlaatu: Humm it was worth a try. :/ I saw a comment that it was ^a | guess that was incorrect. [07:55] lf4: haha you're late to that game. [07:55] lf4: just tried, not working [07:56] lf4: yeah it looks like some distros do ship with the vert split patch installed, so maybe that is true for some versions, but not plain vanilla screen i guess. [07:56] notKlaatu: I usually use vim's split features but you can't have a window showing a terminal in vim so I wanted to mix vim + screen, now ... =/ [07:57] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-81-43.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [07:59] person (~ed@92.17.128.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:59] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:59] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@188.4.1.92.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: the poul......... :) [08:00] Camarade_Tux: yeah, that would be quite handy. [08:01] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-204-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:02] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [08:02] I think I could script something for vim: there's vimshell which is a patch which only works for text-mode vim and is a bit out-of-date but it does more than what I need [08:02] epdv (chatzilla@t54fc4120.pool.terralink.de) left ##slackware. [08:03] I think you should stop drinking to me much beer at the house, and go on to the library where you actually do something about it [08:03] I only want to run commands and see their output: I don't need colours, I don't need anything fancy: I only want to type something, press enter to run it and have the result displayed in a buffer [08:03] scroll up. [08:05] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E56C0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:05] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:05] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] Artio (~a@port-91160.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [08:08] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.54.224) joined ##slackware. [08:08] Camarade_Tux: your one of the lamest cry babies that I probably could figure you meat in one day [08:09] Camarade_Tux: college education huh? [08:09] Camarade_Tux: well, thats the lamest output that I've ever heard! before for no school. [08:10] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [08:10] it would be less lame Camarade_Tux, if you got a dwi, and was complaining... come on [08:11] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [08:12] alienBOB: please... [08:12] rabbitear: and at least, I can spell [08:12] I am bad at it [08:12] but I know what I meant [08:13] and I will always... [08:13] brb. [08:13] lol Camarade_Tux you havent silenced them yet? [08:14] hm xinetd.org is empty [08:14] person (~ed@92.17.136.221) joined ##slackware. [08:14] who is this smelly troll named rabbitear? [08:14] whois rabbitear [08:15] ./whois rabbitear pig_pen to you [08:15] larry65 (~larry@d122-105-195-111.adl8.sa.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:15] brb, if you don't mind tho [08:15] :/ [08:15] just had to have a while with the words of slackware [08:15] lf4: last (and only) time I did, I had to /unignore right after because the guy joined a channel I'm op on >< [08:15] again, since I'm doing it again [08:16] sigh [08:16] Camarade_Tux: Oh that stinks. [08:16] what do you actually smell lf4? [08:16] hi, I have just started using slackware and have a slight problem. I use a KVM switch but when I switch PCs and back again, the keyboard layout changes from uk to usa. anybody have an ideas what to do? [08:17] at school its the ..... [08:18] Scroll lock twice [08:18] i think rabbitear is a microsoft intern, he probably serves monkeyboy coffee [08:18] but every say "KVM keyboard stuff" is different [08:19] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E56C0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Pig_Pen: thats awesome because you should see how I treat the microsoft interns (as in the mind) [08:19] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [08:20] I'd get up on what you say, but, man, there's alot to get up on. these days [08:20] I just drink.... during the off days [08:21] you dont hold your booze very well, i predict you will be puking in less than an hour and pass out 30 minues after that and wake up with a hangover 6 hours later [08:23] if you think I'm with microsoft, man, you have alot to learn buddy [08:24] Pig_Pen: Even MS rejected rabbitear. haha [08:24] yes :) [08:24] rabbitear: will you please stop being a drunk ass and keep quiet for a while until you sober up [08:25] actually I should just apply just to temp [08:25] okay okay alienBOB sir [08:25] gone, and forgotten [08:26] FInal warning before you get kicked [08:26] no more engaggments from me alienBOB [08:26] bed time [08:26] rabbitear (johnbrown@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left ##slackware. [08:27] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] how to have several users X logged in at the same time? [08:31] i mean, how to log in to another and not to log off the first one [08:32] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Quit: [yop] [08:32] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:32] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [08:34] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-251.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:35] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.40.109) joined ##slackware. [08:35] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-232.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:39] pi31415 (ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [08:39] is xinetd still being used? [08:39] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:40] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:41] Cann0n (1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [08:42] provoni (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:43] are there other sbopkg repos I could use? [08:44] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:47] Cann0n (1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:47] Nick change: weirfghliewugfh -> provoni [08:48] when i try to add user to a particular group (adduser -g ) i get error that this user already exists. i use wrong command? [08:49] Asido: adduser -G [08:49] urbank (~urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:50] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:50] crudo (~kayaman@189.70.103.26) joined ##slackware. [08:52] Asido: If you want to keep all groups other groups and append the group use -a [08:52] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [08:52] lf4, with -G error that illegal character (upper case) [08:53] Rather use gpasswd instead, if you want to add a user to a group [08:53] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [08:53] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:53] alienBOB: Humm didn't know about that script. :) [08:54] It's not a script [08:54] alienBOB, gpasswd instead of what? [08:55] Add a user to a group: "gpasswd -a user group" [08:55] Asido: man gpasswd [08:56] groo (~groo@201-92-215-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:03] hey =) [09:03] groo (~groo@201-92-215-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: Saindo [09:05] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:05] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:25] Hi, is there an easy way to provide password less login through something like telnet and make the connection automatically start an ncurses-application? [09:30] Look at ssh and passwordless key-based login sveajobb [09:32] alienBOB, thank you for your input, I do not want to use ssh and encryption however. I managed to get it working by calling in.telnetd -L /my/application from inetd , so all is good atm [09:33] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.198.205) joined ##slackware. [09:33] zaltekk (~zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [09:35] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:35] person (~ed@92.8.104.21) joined ##slackware. [09:37] I want to setup a small, simple mail server for my domain. is there a recommended mta to use(i've never setup a mail server before, so i don't have a preference or have much to base my decision on)? [09:40] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [09:41] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:41] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:44] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.16.164) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:46] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Kamel (~1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:46] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] zaltekk: i dont do mail servers but slackware does come with sendmail included. soo... http://slackwiki.org/Sendmail_TLS_SASL_SMTP-AUTH [09:48] urban (~urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:55] zaltekk: slack comes with sendmail, but you may want to look at postfix. its configuration is much easier to follow than sendmail's [09:55] problem is, you have to buold it [09:55] from what i've googled, sendmail use to be widely insecure, so people switch to postfix. and now that is not the case. which leaves me wondering if the switch to postfix is worthwhile [09:56] it is only if you need features postfix has that sendmail doesnt [09:56] zaltekk: i actually wrote a tutorial yesterday on a postfix setup that includes dovecot and postfixadmin [09:56] person (~ed@92.8.104.21) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:56] zaltekk: look at configuration files from both. see what you think [09:56] ardya: for example? [09:56] zaltekk: no idea, as I dont use postfix [09:56] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:56] do uyour own research [09:57] ardya: worthless advice, if i've ever seen one [09:57] shhh [09:57] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433737.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [09:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433737.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:01] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@188.4.1.92.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:02] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.22.236) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:02] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [10:04] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.198.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:05] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [10:07] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:07] thumbs (~avenger@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:09] _theradar (yamabushi@detached.ircii.de) joined ##slackware. [10:14] zaltekk: Postfix is just better all around compared to sendmail. [10:15] I'd recommend the No Starch Press "Guide to Postfix" if you can grab it [10:15] person (~ed@92.19.145.84) joined ##slackware. [10:15] I still need to get around to chrooting it.... [10:15] i was looking at O'Reilly's Postfix: The Definitive Guide [10:15] _theradar (yamabushi@detached.ircii.de) left ##slackware. [10:15] nooo way man [10:16] the No Starch book is better in my opinion. [10:16] i don't see that book on amazon [10:17] My apologies.... It's "The book of Postfix".... [10:17] http://www.amazon.com/Book-Postfix-State-Art-Transport/dp/1593270011/ref=cm_lmf_tit_4/175-4765239-7664851 [10:17] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@188.4.1.92.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:18] i prefer sendmail, but its not easy or simple [10:18] but doing a dozen domains is easy as 1 [10:18] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:19] i use postfixadmin for adding domains and users to postfix [10:19] it doesnt get any easier [10:20] althouhg finding the right documentation to get it all working took me awhile [10:20] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:21] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) joined ##slackware. [10:24] as a non-winbloz user is there no way to list hardware on pc like cpu,ram,video card and audio make and model on a winbloz pc? [10:25] lshw [build script on sbo] [10:25] ilj_ (~ilj@195.88.15.2) joined ##slackware. [10:25] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:25] pyry (~pyry@a85-156-236-107.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:25] exit [10:25] pyry (~pyry@a85-156-236-107.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Client Quit [10:26] pyry (~pyry@a85-156-236-107.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:26] otherwise, lsusb, lspci, lspcmcia, lsscssi, iwconfig,ifconfig, , /proc/* [10:28] person (ed@92.19.145.84) left ##slackware. [10:28] BP{k}: this is a winbloz pc, no way to dl and compile now [10:28] gnubien: sorry, I am not familiar with what "winbloz" is? [10:28] for one, try #windows. and it's spelled 'windows' [10:28] BP{k}: guess i could take a live linux CD and boot it and then use linux commands [10:29] ok, thanks [10:29] gnubien: also try "favourite search engine of $choice" [10:29] BP{k}: winbloz is a derogitory way to say windows [10:29] you just may have to learn how to spell 'windows' [10:30] does it make you feel better about yourself when you use the _derogatory_ term? [10:30] gnubien: yes, trust me, I did understand what you weere trying to convey. [10:30] ananke: was using wibloz as a derogitory way to say windows [10:30] _derogatory_ [10:30] pendantic [10:30] you grok my spelling :) [10:31] and what were you hoping to achieve by using the derogatory term? [10:31] a smile on your face ;) [10:31] larry65 (~larry@d122-105-195-111.adl8.sa.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:31] gnubien: you failed. 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[10:44] hey, I got some ATI Radeon HD3200 issues [10:45] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-100-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:45] Graphics seem choppy. Even dragging rxvt around lags [10:45] urban (~urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Nick change: urban -> Guest72049 [10:46] I've tried swapping out tons of drivers. xvinfo shows no output. no screens detected [10:46] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:46] I set the pci bus in xorg.conf to match what lspci shows [10:47] Nick change: ThomasLocke_ -> ThomasLocke [10:50] any ideas? [10:55] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [10:55] hello all [10:55] i am trying to upgrade the kernel in current [10:56] and i saw the rworkman's guide, but there is not success [10:56] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:56] Define "no success" [10:56] ok [10:56] dangerseeker (~dangersee@p57A8F8F0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:57] hda still be hda, even i changed it in fstab and lilo.conf [10:58] so when the system boot it mount /dev/hda, and display worning that it cannot fount and mount /dev/sda* [10:58] after rebooting into the new kernel und upgrading to -current? [10:58] yes [10:58] incognitus, you need to reboot :) [10:58] thrice, thank u for the advice [10:58] You need to run "lilo" perhaps, too [10:59] i ran lilo with options shown in tthe guide [10:59] incognitus: tell us what you did, exactly. [10:59] incognitus: use a pastebin if necessary [10:59] well, let me ask some questions if i misunderstood something [10:59] incognitus: or ask precise questions, sure. [11:00] boot= parameter in lilo.conf should be /dev/hda or i must change it [11:00] you can't change the boot parameter to sda until after you reboot into the new kernel/libs [11:01] I need to run through that guide again. I tweaked some things based on theoretical ideas, and apparently I was wrong. [11:01] so, about boot, ok. [11:01] Edit fstab, but leave lilo.conf alone. Run lilo, reboot. At the boot screen, append "root=/dev/sda1" (or whatever is needed) [11:01] Action: thumbs blames rworkman [11:01] heh [11:02] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-97.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] then, when i raun lilo it shows an error "Fatal: Illegal 'root=' specification: /dev/sda1" and load only the old kernel . may be when i boot it is the old kernel and not the new [11:02] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:02] nathanbw (~nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:02] So why does it boot the old kernel? [11:03] Like I said, don't edit lilo.conf yet. Put it back. [11:03] That is only if you did not add the newkernel to lilo.conf [11:03] well, i tald, lilo return error and cannot add the new kernel [11:03] Well, I'm assuming that the new kernel is automatically added, since the /boot/vmlinuz symlink will be followed. [11:04] i dont know why, even the new one is writen in the lilo.conf file [11:04] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:04] I just took an 13.0 boot cd, booted into my -current install, chrooted in, set up fstab and lilo.conf, ran lilo, rebooted, set up the initrd for the generic kernel, rebooted again and I was done. Worked pretty much without too much of a fuss. [11:04] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:05] BP{k}, with the fall i did i tryied to to the same, to chroot and edin things there, but i dont know why i was unable to chroot to mounted disk [11:05] andersen (~vlado@net11-77-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) joined ##slackware. [11:05] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [11:06] and one more, can i rename initrd.gz and use it with different name, because the new kernel is generic too [11:06] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [11:06] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:06] you can name it whatever you want - just make sure the lilo.conf initrd= entry matches [11:07] incognitus: did you use upgradepkg or installpkg to get that new kernel? [11:07] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:07] no :) i installed it next to old one :) now i am on the smae mashine :) [11:07] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:08] So, you have to add a section for the new kernel to the lilo.conf file... while running the old kernel. And then run lilo, and reboot into the new kernel using rworkman's instructions [11:10] alienBOB, i did just it, without success, it is not first kernel upgrade to me [11:10] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:10] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:10] and well, even i dont know lilo good, but there is something with grub too, i cannot set it. i used grub some years [11:11] Beira (~a@port-8702.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [11:11] andersen (vlado@net11-77-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) left ##slackware. [11:11] *because grub have option to edin text file on the system :) [11:11] Okay, see if this is better: http://rlworkman.net/howtos/libata-switchover [11:12] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Artio (~a@port-91160.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:13] rworkman, i used ur suggestion about lilo.conf. now it added the new kernel next to the old [11:13] i ll see [11:15] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [11:15] rworkman: looks pretty straightforward to me - and about what I did with a friends computer when upgrading from -13 to -current [11:16] so, i am going to reboot [11:17] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:18] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-250.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:20] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:20] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Linux localhost 2.6.32.7-smp #1 SMP Fri Jan 29 19:32:46 CST 2010 i686 Pentium III (Katmai) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [11:21] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:21] thanks to all :) [11:22] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-129.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:22] yay :) [11:22] rworkman, there was not need to pres TAB and give "root=/dev/sda1" [11:23] by mistake. i just selected the new kernel and ... pressed enter :) [11:23] /dev/sda1 9,8G 6,1G 3,7G 63% / [11:23] many of my boxes use 10GB for / too. [11:24] so, now i should edit lilo.conf [11:24] I'm starting to regret it. It's a tad small. [11:24] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:25] thumbs, it is a desktop mashine, with many of multimedia and anathe kind of software [11:26] incognitus: yes, and in my case, I use 8-9.5 GB. [11:26] thanks again [11:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:27] rworkman, u may give more examples, every point with example. it should be great, exspecialy if the reader's english is a little bit short [11:28] :) [11:28] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:28] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.23.85) joined ##slackware. [11:31] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:32] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [11:38] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:40] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:43] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [11:44] so [11:45] about hdparm, iis it possible to be uset with sda or there is anathe program for ssda disks [11:45] nope, it'll work fine [11:45] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:46] thanks [11:46] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:47] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-97.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433737.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [11:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433737.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:49] something more aaout how the old name should be swithed. my dvd was hdc now is sr0, not sdb [11:50] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:50] incognitus: that was noted in rworkman's notes [11:50] Beira (~a@port-8702.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it! [11:51] ep0ch (~epoch@2001:470:1f10:4b2::3) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:51] yes, and there is shown that hdc should be sdb [11:51] if hdc is a drive and not a cd/dvd [11:51] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) joined ##slackware. [11:51] but on me is sr0 [11:51] ok, drives [11:52] Tyrael_ (pirc30@j111178.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:52] Tyrael (pirc30@j111178.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:52] section 2 the 3rd star let's you know about that [11:52] man, do u read what i wrote [11:53] yes I did [11:53] well [11:54] the notes indicate if hda is a hard drive, hdb is an optical drive and hdc is a hard drive, then example output might be ..... [11:54] how to, if it is possible, mount the removable drive with hdparm options, because if i write them in rc.local thay dont do anything since the node doesnt exist on boot time [11:55] the nodes should already exist by the time you get to rc.local - but you need to verify what hdparm will work with [11:55] what options, rather [11:56] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:56] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:56] it's a removable drive, the nodes will exist when you plug the thing [11:56] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:57] i tryed the options and i know what of them to use, but i thought that i must type them after the drive is mounted [11:57] pyry (~pyry@a85-156-236-107.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:57] yes nachox i think so [11:57] nachox: that would be for things like thumbdrives which aren't there until plugged in, but the base node should be there for optical drives since they're already there, just no media in them yet [11:57] and, is it possible to appent that options somewhere [11:58] dragonfist (~dragonfis@202.93.37.92) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:58] he said removeble drive, that's not an optical drive. but i agree there [11:58] well, optical drive, it was my mistake [11:59] well, thanks [11:59] the nodes for optical drives will exist even if there is no media in the drive [11:59] mount will fail if you try that of course [12:00] edman007: you around? [12:00] i'm never around... [12:00] or is it the other way around? [12:00] got a second? [12:00] i got a day [12:00] ok, in the old rc.local i had command hdparm about the optical drive, but i was not sure does it worked [12:00] well I need more then a day [12:00] but can make due with a second [12:01] ok [12:02] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:02] I'd like to tar two files /some/path/a and /foo/bar/b into a single archive which would hold only 'a' and 'b' without copying the files first into the same directory, doable? anyone know how? [12:03] (the files are too big to be copied first) [12:03] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik|wrk [12:03] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [12:04] tar -cf file.tar /some/path/a /foo/bar/b [12:04] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-241.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] or if you want it compressed [12:05] tar -jcf file.tar.bz2 /some/path/a /foo/bar/b [12:05] nachox: hahaha, right, I definitely feel stupid ^ ^ [12:05] thanks ;p [12:05] no problem [12:06] I'm trying to come up with a good excuse but, well, I can't ;-) [12:06] just say you are sober today, for the first time, ever ;) [12:06] pprkut, but he is not sober... [12:07] look, he has this http://i.imgur.com/UnFTN.jpg [12:07] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:07] soft alcohol doesn't count :P [12:08] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:08] I could say that I'm sober but I think I'll just hide [12:09] edman007: nice one ;-) [12:10] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:11] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) joined ##slackware. [12:11] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:11] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [12:12] ls [12:12] how to check in console computer parameters? [12:12] rams, cpu.. [12:12] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.86.7.104) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Asido: cat /proc/* [12:12] Asido: /proc/cpuinfo for the CPU [12:12] i need ram mostly [12:13] /proc/meminfo [12:14] and maybe anyone know the same on windows? [12:15] ctrl+alt+del [12:15] ahh, right :) [12:15] you need like 100 mouse clicks to do the same in windows most likely [12:17] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [12:18] I'm getting a kernel panic when using the 2.6.30.5 found on the slack DVD [12:18] which 2.6.30, the generic? [12:18] I followed all the steps in the readme. [12:18] yeah generic [12:18] you rebuilt the initrd? [12:18] Yep. [12:19] and ran "lilo" after everything? [12:19] Yep. [12:19] whats the kernel panic msg? [12:19] try adding "large-memory" to your lilo.conf, re-run lilo, and reboot [12:19] not syncing. Modprode not tainted. [12:19] did that too. [12:19] technopolic (technopol@95.43.23.85) left ##slackware. [12:19] try booting huge first, then straighten up lilo and initrd [12:19] huge isn't on the dvd. only generic [12:20] unless it's a custom dvd, huge should be there [12:20] not in /testing [12:20] I installed the firmware, modules, source and the generic [12:21] I really don't want to configure the kernel today. I only have a limited time on the wifi at the library [12:22] i need 2.6.30.* for my video card and wifi [12:22] are you SURE you rebuilt the initrd? [12:22] really, there's only a couple things that will cause the generic kernel to panic [12:22] check your initrd, check your lilo.conf, and be sure lilo got exectued successfully [12:22] no root FS driver [12:22] kinitrd -k 2.6.30.5 -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda1 [12:22] that'll do it every time :) [12:22] right? [12:23] or no virtual ram drive? [12:23] or however it's called these days [12:23] well, as long as sda1 is root :) [12:23] my root is sda2 [12:23] a ramdisk is a ramdisk, but these days a squashfs is mounted [12:23] actually, i did it on both. [12:24] on both? [12:24] Normally my root is sda2, because I select that with cfdisk. [12:24] frist [12:24] o_O [12:24] BUT, to get lilo installed over grub, i had to set root first. i ran /dev/sda1 last [12:24] what IS your root partition? [12:24] sda2 [12:24] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [12:24] then of course -r /dev/sda1 is incorrect [12:25] sda1 i mean [12:25] sda1 [12:25] greetings programs [12:25] NyteOwl, hi [12:25] i need to add an entry to lilo.conf for fscking the root, how can i do it? [12:25] grr. now mkinitrd says no lib mod libs [12:25] ok. I'm gonna start over. brb [12:26] hi dive [12:26] boot the 2.6.29.x huge and we'll try agian :> [12:26] eldragon: lilo doesn't check filesystems; that is done after the kernel is loaded [12:26] i'm on huge now [12:26] which is the 2.6.29.6 (stock) [12:26] alright, can you pastebin "mount" and your lilo.conf ? [12:27] i need that lilo pick the kernel, the kernel pick the initrd for fscking the unmounted root [12:27] macavity (~macavity@212088073002.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:27] preferably ext4.fsck [12:29] fsck.ext4 that is [12:30] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:30] timed out] [12:30] [12:29] [Cann0n(+i)] [3:freenode/##slackware(+Pcfjnt #overflow 3:3) [Act: 1,2] [12:30] [##slackware] mount [12:30] Channel flood from Cann0n -- kicking [12:30] http://pastebin.org/87115 [12:30] Cann0n kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:30] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [12:30] middle-click fail? =) [12:31] Camarade_Tux, ok, and ls -l /dev/root ? [12:31] oops. 3rd click fail [12:31] thrice`: tab-fail? =) [12:31] mouse pwnage :P [12:31] shh [12:31] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2010-02-07 12:15 /dev/root -> sda1 [12:31] thrice`: hehe ;-) [12:32] Camarade_Tux, ok, try: "mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.30.5-smp -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda1" [12:33] sigh [12:33] Cann0n, ^^ [12:33] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [12:33] 3829 block [12:33] got it. [12:34] Action: Camarade_Tux pats thrice` on the head [12:34] eldragon: the initrd that is used by each kernel in lilo.conf is set . pick the right one, add it first if it is missing [12:34] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.91.2) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:34] urso_ze_colmeia (~urso_ze_c@189.107.16.144) joined ##slackware. [12:35] ok.. so should i try again? [12:35] i need to create a initrd's root filesystem for adding the fsck.ext4 and badblocks programs [12:35] Cann0n, use that mkinitrd command, run lilo, and try booting [12:35] k thanks. brb. [12:35] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:36] eldragon: /boot/initrd-tree/ [12:36] eldragon: check if fsck.ext4 is statically linked.. if not you need to produce such a binary [12:37] using chroot, i've to demonstrate that there is no dependencies failure with ldd [12:37] eldragon: just run file on it [12:37] if i drop an executable script in /etc/rc.d/, will it automatically get executed at boot, or do i need to run it from /etc/rc.d/rc.local? [12:37] macavity, ok [12:37] no [12:38] zaltekk: need to from rc.local [12:38] macavity: okay, thanks [12:38] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:39] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:39] It would be cool if pat made something like profile.d for rc.local [12:39] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [12:39] rc.local.d [12:39] Nope. [12:39] i also need the mount program, for remount the root as rw and storing the logs to there. [12:39] kernel painc. stack corrupt [12:40] kernel in pain ? [12:40] and anything in it thats +x gets ran [12:40] lol painc* [12:40] XGizzmo: really good idea [12:40] I'm downloading full source of 2.6.32.7 for later [12:40] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.114.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:40] my time is up when it finisheds DLing [12:41] eldragon: that seems like a pretty complex setup you are trying to do there [12:41] yes, but i want a reliable fscking using only two partitions, /boot and / [12:42] eldragon: you will end up having to compile a lot of statically linked binaries, at the initrd environment doesnt have glibc/runtime-linker [12:42] huh? [12:42] thrice`: any ideas? It was a no go again [12:42] if / is mounted read only [12:42] macavity: you just ruined it. [12:43] macavity, then to use mksquashfs instead of mkinitrd ? [12:44] XGizzmo: I'd suggest using the existing pure-sysv dirs for that. [12:44] i think it's a lot more complicated still. [12:44] eldragon: if / is mounted read only, then it is (hopefully) not a problem to read /sbin/fsck.fubar into memory [12:44] rworkman: you could [12:44] a "reliable fscking" what with only two partitions? I don't get it... [12:44] what is the issue with two partitions? [12:44] eldragon: whatever way you spin it, you are about the become very very familiar with how things work :P [12:45] rworkman: I was just thinking something more simple. [12:45] KISS ftw [12:45] antiwire, when booting, it loads images from /boot, the problem is that i need a ramdisk root mounted for fscking the only giant filesystem that's / from /dev/sdaX [12:45] make xconfig doesn't work with QT4 ? [12:45] But it would be easy to inplament on ones own. [12:45] the sysv-init package is about the only package i omit [12:45] XGizzmo: I understand. I was just thinking how he would likely respond. :-) [12:46] I know thats why I never asked. :) [12:46] .. because it ***** me up that tab complete goes to smithers on /etc/rc. [12:46] or! make your own rc.local.d, and execute them via. rc.local ;) [12:46] I never needed to do anything special when I used /boot and a huge / [12:46] i need to copy programs and libs from /dev/sdaX to initrd [12:46] I don't see the problem you see. [12:46] person (~ed@92.16.9.180) joined ##slackware. [12:46] because /dev/sdaX can't be fscked if it's mounted. [12:47] it's ro... [12:47] eldragon: and ld-linux i think [12:47] hiptobecubic, you there? use freshclam and make it notify clamd [12:47] My LUKS setup uses a /boot and an encrypted /. it fscks fine. [12:48] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-250.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:49] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:49] Hang around in -current for a little longer and you'll get to see libc in the initrd :) [12:49] Immundus (~obi@e179136104.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:49] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [12:50] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:50] rworkman: orly? [12:50] rworkman: dietlibc or glibc? [12:50] Fully working linux without root mounted FTW. [12:50] Not sure if by default, but yeah. Putting udev in the initrd eliminates many problems. [12:51] rworkman: Probably will fix that issue I had with media bay drives? [12:51] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.3M 2010-01-31 16:49 /boot/initrd.gz [12:51] antiwire: hopefully [12:51] sweet [12:51] macavity: normal libc from the system [12:51] ok, compact in lilo.conf is a must :P [12:52] hahaha [12:52] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [12:52] can i installpkg this: Slackware package /home/epoch/Desktop/oidentd-2.0.8-i486-3sl.txz created. [12:52] that's bigger than the kernel o_O [12:52] guess i can [12:52] eldragon: thats the point of packages.. that you installpkg them [12:52] thats what she said. [12:52] eeeg [12:52] almost as big as the huge kernel [12:52] epoch: ^^ [12:53] jeev, but if there's no internet connection and you have daily.cvd in a file? [12:53] oh, you do it like that [12:57] Weird0ne (~rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:58] hiptobecubic, i just thought you wanted to know if there was another way, other than like a wget [12:58] jeev, no, i was looking for the wget way [12:58] ah, i just use freshclam and tell it to check like 6 times, it downloads and notifies clamd [13:00] jeev, i had the database, but no internet connection [13:01] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [13:01] jeev, also, i was completely unimpressed with it. The computer had the skynet rootkit on it, as well as "Your PC Protector". clamscan didn't notice either one. [13:01] jeev, even if i did something like.... clamscan --detect-pua skynet.dat [13:01] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:02] or clamscan --detect-pua alggui.exe [13:02] ergh, .exe ? [13:03] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [13:03] there are days I just _hate_ verizon dsl [13:03] at least it reconnected properly this time [13:04] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-241.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:05] my bluetooth mouse just kicked the bucket. i r sad [13:05] how did you get the rootkit ? [13:05] sirslack1r (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [13:05] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:05] how did yous can for it ? [13:06] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.9.18) joined ##slackware. [13:06] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-250.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [13:06] hiptobecubic: so why bother with clam at this point? [13:06] hey my pc hdd is sata and sfdisk -l is showing me /dev/hda1,2,3,4 ???? [13:06] can anyone explain please? [13:07] explain what? [13:07] newbie2010: is that slackware 12.x? [13:07] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:07] 12.1 [13:07] Disk /dev/hda: 14593 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track [13:07] Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 [13:07] Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System [13:07] Channel flood from newbie2010 -- kicking [13:07] /dev/hda1 * 0+ 14102 14103- 113282316 83 Linux [13:07] /dev/hda2 14103 14592 490 3935925 5 Extended [13:07] /dev/hda3 0 - 0 0 0 Empty [13:07] newbie2010 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:07] <3 newbies [13:08] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.9.18) joined ##slackware. [13:08] do u know why macavity? [13:08] bet that isnt the first tim he's been kicked for the same thing [13:08] newbie2010: why don't you install 13.0? [13:08] ananke, what would you recommend in its place? [13:08] ardya, bet away [13:08] newbie2010: yes, old kernel from before the libata switch [13:08] ananke, i've too many problems with v13.0 lilo cofig [13:08] ? [13:08] it doesn't boot from the linux partition [13:09] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:09] epoch (~epoch@epoch.is.a.linuxmaniac.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] hiptobecubic: any windows av software that can actually do something about it :) [13:09] it recognizes my usb as sda1,2,3,4 [13:10] ananke, oh wells sure. "Any software that can fix everything." is naturally my first choice as well. [13:10] newbie2010: i gave you the answer already [13:10] yup thank you macavity [13:10] epoch (~epoch@epoch.is.a.linuxmaniac.net) left irc: Changing host [13:10] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [13:10] you always do [13:10] i recall my old time tried on slackware where you have the same positive attitude [13:11] hiptobecubic: avg or microsoft security essentials [13:11] unlike many fuckers like ardya for example [13:11] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Quit: Meow, meOUT! [13:11] newbie2010: would you mind watching your language? [13:11] no i don't [13:11] pfui [13:11] ananke, avg found nothing. haven't tried mse yet [13:12] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [13:13] fallertsen (~Franz@host202-161-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:13] newbie2010: grub is in extra/ i suggest you try try that.. after the regular install (of 13), just use the DVD to boot the system (as described in the welcome screen; dont forget the space between rdinit= and ro; eg *not* rdinit=ro), then install grub once you get in.. there is a script called something like grub-setup in the package that helps you [13:13] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [13:14] fallertsen (Franz@host202-161-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [13:14] newbie2010: it wouldnt happen to be an nForce based chipset? [13:14] hiptobecubic, how did you find the rootkit [13:14] jeev, booted slack on a usb and did some digging. Found a bunch of files (which were not visible as admin in windows) and looked them up [13:15] oh, you scanned a windows system [13:16] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [13:16] jeev, yes. [13:16] I've been doing the same thing over the last weekend but it couldn't fix that liloconfig issue, and yes booting from the installation dvd is the only solution [13:16] hiptobecubic, for future reference, it'd probably be used to use some sort of preinstalled environment like "hiren's boot cd' [13:16] newbie2010: go for grub then [13:17] anyone wants to celebrate with me my successful mount command in here ^_^ woooohoooo [13:17] newbie2010: i have, on rare occations, found systems where one of the two wont fly.. fortunately the other one always worked if the first one didnt [13:18] at least so far [13:18] question macavity, why the installation time of slackware v13.0 is much less than v12.1? [13:18] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-209-157.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] and so do the formating time!!! [13:18] it took like forever to format the linux partition [13:18] i *think* that you dont get DMA on 12.1 because of the driver issue [13:19] v13.0 file manager is not nice like the konqueror thing [13:19] i had that issue too.. i dont remember the kernel parameters but it was something like libata.noscan=hda or some such, to get the piixn driver to pick it up instead [13:19] sirslack1r (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:20] konqueror is in 13 too [13:20] beside what was that anikondi or whatever pop ups on the kde? [13:20] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [13:20] you can disable that too.... [13:20] newbie2010: you can set konqueror instead of dolphin in the default app settings thingie [13:21] yeah? who to make the default? besides i read the new v13.0 is using txz instead of tgz while i barely started my first steps [13:21] not a single "issue" you have brought up is really an issue. [13:22] it doesnt make that much of a difference.. it is slightly tougher on the CPU and gives slightly better compression [13:22] txz is just the compression format. the package format is the same. [13:22] the tools work identically and concurrently with txz or tgz packages. [13:22] but it wont give you a really noticable difference in install speed [13:22] there is talking about a comming soon slk extension [13:23] or that is what i read at least [13:23] so, if you think format and install are dog slow in 12.x it is because your disk doesnt use DMA [13:23] where did you read about .slk? [13:23] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:23] antiwire, i can't even till what was my breakfast just google it [13:24] brb [13:24] newbie2010: try hdparm -I /dev/hda | grep DMA [13:24] just google it. lmao [13:24] that's rich coming from you. [13:24] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:24] seriously i don't recall where i read it [13:24] but it was written some where ^_^ [13:25] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:25] afk, shower -> food -> bottycall :-) [13:25] you have a sexbot ? [13:26] he has a goat [13:26] so, goatsecall then [13:26] at least he upgraded from a sheep [13:26] :) [13:27] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:28] Well damn. smacked a terry's orange and didn't get a pretty naked asian girl in a bathtub falling through my ceiling *sigh* [13:28] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:29] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:30] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [13:31] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.18.166) joined ##slackware. [13:32] technopolic (technopol@95.43.18.166) left ##slackware. [13:37] I'm consoled into my cable modem and the default setting allows telnet access to the LAN and WAN side [13:37] wtf is that [13:37] but can you actually login? [13:37] antiwire: hahah. that's awesome. [13:38] I'm logged into it right now [13:38] via telnet... [13:38] and yes, default passwords [13:38] sweet [13:38] what type of cable modem is it? [13:38] DCM-202 [13:39] I'm killing telnetd and httpd on the WAN right now, and changing the user/password [13:39] what are the default user/pass ? [13:39] admin/admin? [13:39] who's talking [13:39] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:40] epoch: dlink/dlink [13:40] lol [13:40] gg [13:40] ouch [13:40] cableco supplied? [13:41] antiwire, i hope an isp doesnt supply it to its customers... [13:41] I own my modem [13:41] I never lease equipment from an ISP [13:42] did a search on DCM-202, doesnt look like it comes from an isp [13:42] from any isp for that matter [13:42] one of those tigerd/newegg deals [13:42] wonder what the shellshocker is atm...i need a new gfx card BAD [13:43] Yeah, I bought it from Fry's a while ago [13:43] http://www.newegg.com/special/shellshocker.aspx fooey [13:43] You either buy your own or pay 5 bucks extra per month to lease one... [13:44] go to frys [13:44] jeev: seriously, I know I'm not on ignore. Stop being a douche about it. [13:45] antiwire, my ISP gave me no choice...i told them I have a modem and they said they have to give me a modem, but they don't charge me [13:46] edman007: That's not that bad then. At least they don't force you to leaseit [13:46] edman007: it's buried in your monthly charge :) [13:46] antiwire, anyways, i would guess it only allows it from internal IPs, try it from somewhere outside your network [13:46] yea i got the homeportal HG1000 for free (with my setup cost...) [13:46] "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" [13:46] i wish i could get U-verse [13:47] NyteOwl, well the bill only has "cable internet" and "boost internet" [13:47] why can't you [13:47] wtf i mean FIos [13:47] heh [13:47] you can pick up a working surfboard modem for charter for 20 bux [13:47] edman007: It's not the Internet side that I'm worried about. It is someone else on the same ISP scanning the internal ISP subnets for modems with default settings. [13:47] From the internet I'd be fine. it's an inside the network attack [13:47] edman007: I mean that they factor the cost into their fees and then provide it "free of charge" :) [13:47] i figured out how to use tunnelbroker.net with afraid.org to give myself a ton of ipv6 rdns hostnames today [13:47] NyteOwl, yea.. [13:48] Action: epoch happy to be ddos-proof on efnet now [13:48] w/out having to pay for anything =) [13:48] NyteOwl, but the good thing is i'm not responsible for lightning when i don't own it [13:48] ddos proof? [13:48] Action: epoch nods [13:48] who did you come to that conclusion? [13:48] edman007: true enough [13:48] edman007: These networks have the Internet side and the management side which the ISP uses to provision and maintain. Anyone with a cable modem connected to the network can scan the management subnets for modems. [13:48] ardya, none of those kiddies know how to packet ipv6 with their cisco botnets [13:48] ardya, epoch hasn't met me! [13:49] ok [13:49] just keedin [13:49] epoch: they know, and have, and are, ddosing tservs. [13:49] NyteOwl, when i ended my charter contract and returned the stuff i did it the night after a big storm, such bad timing, HUGE line for getting broken shit replaced [13:49] good, i hope efnet dies because of nac's opers [13:49] well, they havent done it to me yet [13:49] antiwire, so get a neighbor to do test it [13:50] mica_ (~chatzilla@124.43.59.255) joined ##slackware. [13:50] and i have a few skiddie enemies there [13:50] epoch: question is, what are you doing that would attract their attention to begin with [13:51] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.18.166) joined ##slackware. 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[13:55] ardya, the circles i hang out in like to randomly select ddos targets [13:55] Sounds like you need some new friends [13:56] hhahahahah [13:56] ardya's been on efnet long enough to know there isn't anything random [13:56] epoch: like ##slackware? [13:56] andiopv6 does mnot hide you either [13:56] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:57] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:58] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [13:59] is it proper to specify multiple subdomains after an ip address in /etc/hosts? [13:59] such as, 192.168.0.1 www.domain.com www mail.domain.com mail [13:59] or am i going about this the wrong way? [14:01] epoch, didn't you try to ddos this channel before? [14:02] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:02] zaltekk: IP host alias [alias2] [aliea3] [14:03] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:03] see man hosts [14:03] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [14:03] ardya: i know it it seemingly works. i just don't know if that is the proper way to do so [14:03] the domain has multiple A entries that point to the same ip [14:05] is that /etc/hosts file you're talking about? [14:05] zaltekk, it is the proper way to do it, yes [14:06] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [14:06] alisonken1home: yes. i was just curious if i should list all of the A entries in the /etc/hosts rather than letting it use DNS to look them up [14:06] dangerseeker (~dangersee@p57A8F8F0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:06] zaltekk, if you have a dns, there is really no need to list anything in the hosts file [14:07] zaltekk: good only if the IP's will never change - and dns is not available [14:07] nachox: what about for hostname/dnsdomainname recognition? [14:07] alisonken1home: they are all aliases to 127.0.0.1 [14:07] zaltekk: that's /etc/resolv.conf [14:07] Which extention for ArK to install to can extract .rar files? [14:07] good one :) good for null-routing ip's [14:08] because now I can't [14:08] alisonken1home: are you sure about that? [14:08] I am running slackware 13 stable [14:08] urso_ze_colmeia (~urso_ze_c@189.107.16.144) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:08] zaltekk: anything in localhost file that points to 127.0.0.1 is localhost - will never go out of the machine [14:08] "hostname -f" doesn't display a domain name if it isn't aliased in /etc/hosts [14:08] regardless of the domain entry in /etc/resolv.conf [14:09] zaltekk, unrar? [14:09] thrice`: i think you mean technopolic [14:09] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [14:09] hostname is for setting/checking the localhost system name [14:09] /etc/hosts is for mapping host/domain to IP's and vice-versa [14:10] alisonken1home: i don't think you understand my question [14:10] sorry :) [14:10] It is not available in the repository [14:10] how to make multiple entries in /etc/host map to a single ip [14:10] no [14:10] technopolic, slackbuilds.org should have it available [14:10] Action: nachox bans thrice` [14:11] that's OK, it's time for a run anyway. finally hit ~30F outdoors :) [14:11] alisonken1home: i am asking if example.com's /etc/host should have "127.0.0.1 example.com www.example.com www mail.example.com mail" and etc if example.com's DNS has A records for those all to the same IP [14:11] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:11] or if i should let them be resolved to the external IP, even though it will still be connecting to the local server [14:12] (resolved to the external ip via dns) [14:12] zaltekk: as noted - that's "example.com" and as described in internet standards, IP 127.0.0.1 is localhost only and will never leave the machine [14:12] alisonken1home: i know that. and that isn't my question. [14:13] you just keep telling me somewhat-related facts =/ [14:13] the example is to show how to map multiple host/domains to a single IP without using dns [14:13] again, that isn't what i am asking about. [14:13] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:13] then what are you trying to do? as far as I can tell, you just asked about example.com [14:13] Sorry, but I think that unrar is separately program. I search plugin for arK [14:13] or I am not correct? [14:14] alisonken1home: i used that name as an example [14:14] and again - are you trying to tell other machines about your localhost options (like mail.example.com) or are you trying to fake-out programs running on your local machine? [14:14] you might want to start explaining again usinga different approach [14:14] technopolic: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=unrar&sv=13.0 [14:15] both alisonken1home and me understood the same thing [14:15] technopolic: but first: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [14:15] because /etc/hosts is _only_ used by your local machine that the file is located [14:15] and only if dns is _not_ available [14:15] alisonken1home: I have a domain with multple A entries that all point to the same IP. I am curious if there are any pros(or cons) to setting the /etc/hosts at that IP to resolve those entries as 127.0.0.1 rather than as the IP from the external interface. [14:15] well - depends on your setup, but /etc/hosts is looked first, then dns [14:16] zaltekk: do you have some need to use 127.0.0.1 instead of the lan IP? [14:16] ardya: no. i was asking if there are any reasons to do so. [14:16] zaltekk: if you have A records in a dns dishing up 127.0.0.1 as the IP, then that tells any machine that get's that information to NOT go outside that particular machine [14:16] zaltekk, no, there is none. linux will bypass a lot of the processing if it knows it's a local interface [14:16] no, idea, ony you can determine your needs [14:16] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:16] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:17] and keep in mind - if you use /etc/hosts rather than DNS - you have to update _every_ machine's /etc/hosts file [14:17] nachox: that is what i was thinking. so it would be more efficient to use 127.0.0.1 rather than the external ip? [14:17] dns is used to centrally manage the ip setup for your domain so you _don't_ have to manage individual /etc/hosts files [14:17] no, no, i understood what he wants, he is standing in the dns server [14:17] escaflown (~elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] so he basically wants to know whether there are performance advantages in using local interfaces or the loopback one [14:18] after download the tar.gz archive, extracted it and made it executable [14:18] ran ./unrar.slackbuild [14:18] and its print an errors [14:18] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [14:18] unrarsrc-3.9.7.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory [14:18] maybe i should pastebin what i am talking about [14:18] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [14:18] to show the /etc/hosts and the dig results [14:18] zaltekk, am i right? [14:18] nachox: almost. [14:19] the DNS server is external [14:19] technopolic: you have to put the source in the same folder as the slackbuild [14:19] Maybe I am downloaded the not correct package [14:19] but the mail, web, etc are all on the same server [14:19] I just pasted the how to [14:19] and i want to know if it is better(for logging or performance reasons) to have the entires as 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts rather than using dns to resolve and use eth0's IP [14:20] technopolic: Read the how to. It does a complete run down using an example build. [14:20] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.232.44) joined ##slackware. [14:21] I road it, I understood I must download the unrarsrc.tar.gz file, but to not extract it? [14:21] zaltekk, oh, THAT. sorry, its a bad idea. you'll only notice a difference the first time you try to access it by name. all the other times those request will come from the nscd, the name services cache [14:21] say eth0's IP is 64.145.82.9. would i be better off using /etc/hosts to map mail to 127.0.0.1 or let DNS resolve mail.mydomain.com to 64.145.82.9 [14:22] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Thank you I created the .tgz file :) [14:22] greetings and salutations all [14:24] hi andarius [14:24] hey NyteOwl, how's it going? [14:24] salutations NyteOwl [14:26] hi fire|bird. it goes :) yourself? [14:26] zaltekk: do you have a specifc need to map to 127.0.0.1? [14:26] NyteOwl: going great, thanks. :) [14:27] zaltekk: linux is smart enough to know that any IP that is bound to it's own interface is local and there should not be a performance hit - so i would leave the information in the dsn as public and not worry about it [14:27] ardya: again, no. i'm asking if there is a reason to do so [14:27] no, there is no reason to if you dont have a need to [14:27] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E56C0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:27] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [14:27] alisonken1home: okay. sounds like there isn't a reason to then [14:28] zaltekk: did you find an ulternative to the guide i gave you ? [14:33] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[14:45] antiwire: that would be nice but not necessary [14:45] What's the budget range? lol [14:45] If cost was no issue and you had the motivation to tinker I'd say a routerboard or Avila board with an EnGenius ABG card. [14:46] antiwire: well let's say I'm not into high end Cisco/Juniper stuff. I just want it for home. I see that DLinks' dual band has a support but I've been told it's a flakey unit [14:47] http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database [14:47] NTU (~neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] where do all the .h (header) files go in slackware? [14:47] Netgear made a dedicated 802.11a acess point that worked well a couple of eyars ago (501 I think) but can't find them anymore [14:47] Linksys WRT55AG 1.0 looks like it is supported [14:47] noob question i know [14:48] brb wpa_supplicant test [14:48] thanks - slow day or I'd have looked at that list :) [14:48] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [14:48] /usr/include [14:48] ? [14:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.232.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:49] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:50] how do you set CPPFLAGS too? [14:50] CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/include' ./configure isn't working [14:51] maybe /usr/share/include something, what is it looking for? [14:51] rworkman, writing udev rules solves naming my 4 usbflash drives. really good howto :) [14:51] kernel headers? [14:51] MrZhi the lzo headers [14:51] the compression library [14:52] Im trying to make a kernel use lzo but its not working (lzop command not found) but I have lzo installed but i cant configure lzop [14:52] I think /usr/include/lzo/ should work [14:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:54] ugh ill figure it out [14:54] NTU (~neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:54] newbie2010 (newbie201@41.252.9.18) left ##slackware. [14:54] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:55] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:56] the hostapd 0.7.1 changes look promising [14:56] and it even builds for me! yay [14:58] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:59] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) joined ##slackware. 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[15:38] logrotate.conf and logrotate.d/* [15:39] Reading /etc/logrotate.conf should have made that clear :) [15:39] # some packages install log rotation information in this directory: [15:39] include /etc/logrotate.d [15:39] yea, i looked in there, nothing about maillog [15:40] ah! [15:40] it's in syslog [15:40] damnit! [15:40] KatarinA (~Katarina@net160-184-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) joined ##slackware. [15:40] i was just testing you r. [15:40] Sure... :) [15:40] i got this old school postfix log script [15:41] i want to link it together [15:42] lol http://wcco.com/local/police.drunk.dad.2.1470935.html [15:43] i'm thinking of getting a motorized webcam capable of tilting/panning for monitoring the surroundings of my server.. any recommendations? [15:43] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:44] no idear [15:44] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:44] I have an iso here and when i mount it, it forces the directory to be chmod 000. Root can't change it, although root can still browse it. [15:45] dchmelik (~d@71.93.27.3) joined ##slackware. [15:46] aryr100 (~aryr100@rrcs-24-97-24-139.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Can you show us how you are mounting it? [15:46] and how it looks in mount's output [15:46] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.18.166) joined ##slackware. [15:46] antiwire, just the usual mount -o loop file.iso /target/dir [15:47] /dev/loop0 on /media/hd0 type iso9660 (ro) [15:47] try mount -o loop,rw file.iso /dir [15:48] isnt 9660 by definition ro? [15:48] yes [15:48] yeah [15:48] no luck [15:48] v3gard: if you can affolrd them Axis make some decent cams for remote operation [15:49] for a baudget might try Dlink [15:49] s/baudget/budget/ [15:49] janemba (~back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:49] KatarinA (Katarina@net160-184-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) left ##slackware. [15:49] Karu (alch@78-28-100-41.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [15:50] janemba (~back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] hiptobecubic: was the iso created as 9660? [15:51] ardya, yes [15:53] mounting a different iso works fine [15:56] i'm stumped [15:57] how was it created [15:57] deadlock (~no_uid@unaffiliated/deadlock) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:59] thumbs (~avenger@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:00] Razec (1000@187-27-255-103.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:00] ardya, i didn't creat it [16:00] create* [16:01] although.... something is definitely screwy here [16:01] d--------- 3 4294967295 4294967295 2048 2009-11-19 11:58 hd1/ What the hell user and group is that [16:02] Axius (~hi@92.84.15.73) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Avalloc (~a@port-8702.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Smells of corruption [16:02] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[16:09] udf filesystem support needs to be loaded in your kernel I think [16:09] no difference [16:09] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:09] foobarz, it can read the image fine. I can browse through it as root [16:11] Wertik (~mirggi@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:12] ilj_ (~ilj@195.88.15.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:13] Wertik (~mirggi@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [16:14] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Wertik (~mirggi@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:18] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [16:18] Wertik (~mirggi@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [16:18] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. 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So I'm guessing there's a hackery for doing that. Does anyone knows how to proceed? [16:34] NyteOwl: got new hd, working great :) [16:34] escaflown: can't say that I do [16:35] MrZhi (~zhizaki@24-155-241-242.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: [16:35] NyteOwl: thanks for the tip [16:35] doen't alien have blog with links to all his hacks? [16:35] escaflown: well alienBOB is here but he's been idle for 2hours 38 mins =) [16:35] i didnt see anything about using an usb stick as unlocking mechanism [16:38] escaflown: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/ <-- maybe you will find something here [16:40] thanks snL20. I checked it before and didn't find any such a thing [16:40] Wertik (~mirggi@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:40] wertik_rus (~mirggi@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:41] escaflown, if you google "alienbob blog" it'll be one of the first hits [16:42] Thanks thrice: I know the link to the alienbob blob but the USB sticks as unlocking mechanism is not described on any of his blog [16:42] ok, "alienbob wiki" [16:44] http://www.howtoforge.com/automatically-unlock-luks-encrypted-drives-with-a-keyfile [16:44] is that what you want? [16:45] Thanks Skywise: i got a "Page not found" [16:45] try refreshing [16:46] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] doesn't change anything [16:46] ok, make sure theres nothing extra on the url [16:47] same old [16:47] its the 3rd link from searching google with luks usb unlock [16:47] Works for me [16:47] maybe he's someplace they don't like [16:47] lol [16:48] besides he asked for a encrypted root partition [16:48] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:48] Nick change: Wertik -> wertik_rus [16:48] tuvok302Lappy (vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-78.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [16:48] not working here [16:49] well i think the issue is where he's saving the keyfile at [16:49] odd, see if you can hit the cache [16:49] well, I want to save the keyfile on an usb key [16:50] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:50] yeah its what you want [16:50] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [16:50] acidkill (acidkill@user-0c90ofd.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:51] aryr100 (~aryr100@rrcs-24-97-24-139.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyLUKSTwoFormFactor [16:51] that has a step by step process [16:51] it should work for you [16:51] man, encryption is a lot of hassle, does it have any impact on fs repair tools effectiveness? [16:52] so far , no I think [16:52] it works fine for me [16:52] i'm just tired to have the passphrase at every boot [16:52] that's why i want to have it on an usb stick [16:53] Axius (~hi@92.84.15.73) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:53] yeah sounds cool [16:53] well apparently the trick is creating a udev id for that particular device so its mounted appropriately [16:53] but don't ask me about udev cause we don't get along [16:55] i know how to do the udev thing but how does it get to know where the passphrase is [16:55] i think its the mount location [16:56] so it means that in my initrd i have to include the driver for the filesystem I have on the usb key, right? [16:56] that last link i posted has a script to mount and dismount the usb keydrive on boot [16:56] yeah, but i would think so [16:56] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:57] ok. Thanks Skywise. I will dig some info in the ast link u sent me [16:57] you might have to tweak it, since its for ubuntu, but you use slack, you can make it work for you [16:57] yep [16:57] just have to know how the whole thing works [16:58] macavity (~macavity@212088073002.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Disconnected by services [16:58] cos i'm clueless about how it exactly detects the passphrase [16:58] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:58] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:58] thats what the script does a boot [16:59] ok [16:59] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:01] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:01] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. 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[17:09] hello [17:09] Nick change: rk -> Guest45622 [17:09] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:10] Guest45622 (~rk@host86-146-160-227.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:12] Guest45622 (~rk@host86-146-160-227.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:13] Avalloc (~a@port-8702.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it [17:13] Nick change: Guest45622 -> rk2 [17:14] good afternoon / morning / evening [17:14] I am looking for some help on how to enable the "record" extension in the X server on a slackware 13 system [17:15] the base package does not seem to include it (i.e. /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/ does not include the librecord.so file) [17:15] mica__ (~chatzilla@124.43.44.154) joined ##slackware. [17:16] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [17:16] rebuild xorg to include it [17:16] urso_ze_colmeia (~urso_ze_c@189.107.16.144) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:17] k, there is no pre-built x.org package including it? [17:17] ardya, you're sure about that? [17:17] not as supplied by slackware [17:17] mica_ (~chatzilla@124.43.59.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:17] thrice`: yes, we went throug this last week with another guy [17:17] hum ... not entirely confident about rebuilding Xorg ... I'm sure i'll mess it up [17:17] ah, sorry, google is not helpful on the subject [17:18] ardya, yes, at which point you still had no proof :> [17:18] rk2: you usaew the source and build script as supplied by slackware [17:18] rk2: the slackbuild includes the original configure settings, just change what you need to change [17:18] if it's just that module, then it will build just that module [17:18] yes, just the one module [17:18] thrice`: I did have proof. grep -i record /var/log/packages/*xorg* [17:19] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:19] ardya, I mean, why do you think rebuilding xorg will make it magically appear? [17:19] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [17:19] huh? [17:19] Action: ardya shakes his head [17:19] getting terribly confused now :( [17:20] you suggest rebuilding xorg, right? why do you suggest that? [17:20] to include librecord.so [17:20] rk2: get the source and slackbuild script from the install media or mirror, edit the slackbuild to include support for the module, rebuild [17:20] i have this issue where when i plug in a usb hdd and it automounts, it open two file manager windows for it. i'm on xfce [17:20] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [17:21] ardya, which configure flag, in xorg-server? [17:21] in drm? mesa? one of the protos? [17:21] ok, thanks ardya, source as I can find on: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ ? [17:22] rk2: presumably, I dont use -current, not familiar with its tree [17:22] rk2: apparently you need recordproto (seperate package) [17:23] macavity: is that a supporting sftwre, or does it provide the actual extension? [17:24] it's a header file xorg can build against. but I thought you were the x.org expert? [17:24] i'm so ### if I have to recomipile X ... [17:24] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3043A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:25] thrice`: shh. If you have a better way to have him get the extension, I'll step back. Else keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself, they're NOT helping HIM. [17:26] person (ed@92.16.9.180) left ##slackware. [17:26] rk2: from what i can see the record extention has been a hit-or-miss affair for several releases.. in current upstream it is disabled because it is broken [17:26] in relation to recordproto, I just installed it and it has NOT isntalled librecord.so [17:26] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:27] So, I doubt this was sufficient by itself. [17:27] rk2: obviously not.. but it is a first step for getting librecord.so to actully compile [17:27] the protos provide header files, that's about it. [17:27] apologies, as is becoming quite apparent, my technical knowledge is limited. still learning though [17:28] prhg (1000@a88-112-227-110.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:28] ardya, I suggest the same to you. your advice of "rebuild xorg" came out of nowhere, and you have no evidence or experience to suggest it will work - that is my point. advising people to rebuild x.org on a whim is pretty poor advice, I think [17:30] rk2, after installing the recordproto, only xorg-server requires rebuilding to gain the shared library [17:30] wertik_rus (~mirggi@95-27-188-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: [17:30] right [17:30] rk2: run ./configure --help and see what it says [17:31] if you download all of the "x/" tree from source, you can go into x11/ and do "./x11.SlackBuild server xorg-server" to create that package alone [17:31] apologies for being behind the curve [17:31] Action: jeev senses thrice` going through puberty, or PMS [17:31] rk2: i think it is disabled by default.. and be prepared that it likely doesnt work.. google shows me a truck load of complaints about it on the xorg-dev mailing list [17:31] right, the only reason I want this ### module is to run a script which attempts to detect key presses [17:32] macavity, --enable-record I think [17:32] and it appears to be relying on the extension being installed. surprised it is seen as broken [17:33] rk2: this is exactly what record does.. it is primarily used for server testing [17:34] time to back up my system I guess. [17:34] thank you for yoru help [17:35] rk2: if you use the build scripts to get real packages, backup is probably excessive [17:35] i have yet to see a slackware package that leaves behind "droppings" when removed [17:35] slysyr (mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:36] well, it is quite apparent I only understand 50% of what I am attempting to do. horrible mistakes are to be expected :) [17:36] rk2: read the x11.SlackBuild over a couple of times [17:36] you seem bright enough to be able to understand what is going on :-) [17:36] rk2, are you on 13.0, or -current ? [17:36] 13.0 [17:37] I will get the X source from the install CD, keep things "clean" [17:37] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-151-41-43.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [17:37] thats also where the slackbuild script is [17:37] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-151-41-43.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:37] yup [17:38] so ./x11.SlackBuild server xorg-server --enable-record ? [17:38] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:38] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) joined ##slackware. [17:38] (does not sound right) [17:38] actually, one sec [17:39] rk2: as i said.. read over the script [17:39] rk2: the options for configure are stored in individual files [17:39] rk2: no, you edit the slackbuild script, find the configure section, add the approriate arg [17:39] no, you don't [17:39] ok, sorry [17:39] ardya: shut up [17:39] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [17:39] sure [17:39] uh .... [17:40] rk2, edit x/x11/configure/xorg-server [17:40] rk2: so, locate the configure option file for xorg-server and edit it [17:40] thrice`++ [17:41] adaptr: i am pretty tired of listening to you making assumptions.. it is slightly *LESS* helpfull sending a user on a detour than giving them no help at all [17:41] somewhere in the configure flags, add your "--enable-record \" [17:41] then, you can ./x11.SlackBuild server xorg-server [17:41] macavity: excuse me ? what when ? [17:42] he meant ardya [17:42] adaptr, macavity had a little erectile dysfunction where he pressed tab too early.. pretty confident of him [17:42] adaptr: oh, sorry, epictabfail! :P [17:43] well, they're pretty close [17:43] and i am slightly dislexic [17:43] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/source/x/x11/configure/xorg-server [17:43] edit this file [17:43] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:44] rk2: yup, thats the one [17:44] shonudo (user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [17:44] add --enable-record in the top section [17:44] then run ./x11.SlackBuild server xorg-server [17:44] dont forget the \ at the end of the line [17:44] yes [17:44] and I will have a new xorg-server package? [17:45] thats the theory, yes :P [17:45] DralaFi (~dralafi@host86-150-109-171.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:45] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:45] adaptr, ar tab only brings up ardya :) it's not close when you consider how many people there are here with a prefix's [17:45] if you installed recordproto [17:45] yes, installed recordptoto earlier [17:45] ardya, ignore them. assumptions have gotten us to the point where humanity is today. without assumptions, we're left with dictators [17:45] --prfix=/usr? [17:46] should I do a removepkg on the existing xorg-server pkg then installpkg on the newly created one? [17:46] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [17:46] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:46] as far as i remember it runs upgradepkg --install-new on its own [17:46] *as far as i remember* [17:46] not sure what you mean macavity, I did my usual installpkg xxx [17:47] jeev: I respect macavity's knowledge of the slackware system to back off when he said shut. anything else he thinks about me is totally irrelevant [17:47] ok, will try upgrade pkg [17:47] oh, that means that if you already have the package installed it will just upgrade to your newly built one [17:47] crazy [17:47] ardya: :-) [17:48] Action: macavity makes note that ardya is a reasoble guys so the grumpy-old-man attitude can go [17:48] *guy [17:48] not with me [17:48] jeev: :) [17:49] you made your bwd :) [17:49] what's a bwd [17:49] my system is going to die in a fire ... who needs a working X server anyway ... [17:49] a typo [17:49] rk2, that's right. use windows [17:50] rk2: you're merely doing what the pg manintainer did to build the pg, no more, no less [17:50] pkg [17:50] well, with all due respect, I am TRYING to learn and having to recompile your xserver does not come naturally to everybody [17:50] heck, 99.9% of the population does not know what an X server is [17:50] so please take your unhelpful attitude and shove it jeev [17:50] rk2: trust me, the first time i had to decode how that particular build script worked i had to read over it a couple of times [17:50] rk2: if you were buildimng it from scratch, and not a script designed by the slackwareew people for slackware, THEN you could worry :) [17:51] monolithic X was a nightmare.. modulear X is.. uhm.. a nightmare! :P [17:51] indeed [17:51] thank you for the help, will make a step-by-step list of things to do and try tomorrow [17:52] I might even be back in this channel :p [17:52] rk2: feel free to drop by if you get cross eyed somewhere down the line [17:53] thx, we'll see [17:53] escaflown: I have not published a patch yet, but I am running this laptop with a LUKS partition that I unlock using my USB key [17:53] alienBOB: oh, sweet! :-) [17:54] one last question, has anybody heard from the person running the "package browser". It has been down for quite a while now ... [17:54] alienBOB, how would you use an encrypted partition in a co-location when you need it to boot without being present [17:55] Cann0n (1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Skywise: having that partition encrypted makes no sense if you want to unlock it without anyone being present... [17:55] lol [17:55] alienBob, yeah, thats what i thought [17:55] sup. Took me like 3 hours to download the 2.6.32.7 source [17:55] hey [17:56] rk2: i always make a full install.. then i grep /var/log/packages/* if i need to know something [17:56] I built a wind chime out of some aluminium tubes I found. Killd the same and I tell you want, it got me in the mood to compile a kernel tonight [17:56] s/killd the same/killed some time [17:57] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:57] how is the performance decrease of an encrypted drive [17:57] or encrypted partition [17:57] i wouldn't wish dialup on anyone [17:57] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [17:57] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:58] Skywise, not even your enemies ? [17:58] ok bill gates [17:58] Immundus (~obi@e179136104.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: when in trouble when in doubt run in circles scream and shout [17:58] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:58] how is billiam, yes billiam your enemy ? [17:58] jeev: I run KDE4 on that encrypted drive, no problems with performance [17:58] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:58] alienBOB, any issues with SSD? [17:58] i was just being generous [17:58] i'm considering setting it up on my system [17:59] Send me one and I will tell you jeev [17:59] :) [17:59] the only way performance would decrease is if you forgot that password ;p [17:59] is it possible to setup an existing install ? [18:00] if I compile my own kernel, will i still need to mkinitrd for it? [18:00] how does encryption work with raid and journaling? [18:00] Action: rworkman echoes alienBOB's offer. [18:00] ok, large keysize and tiny CPU doesnt go well together [18:00] Cann0n, i dunno.. depends, i've built my kernel with ext3 and ext4 and still managed to need the modules in initrd [18:00] I have a dialup account I sue for backup and from the summer cottage. It's better than nothing :) [18:00] rworkman, alienBOB. one day [18:00] Action: NyteOwl offers homemade egg-nog (fortified) [18:01] NyteOwl, only slightly [18:01] NyteOwl, do you have yogurt drink instead ? [18:01] jeev: no sorry [18:01] i haven't had home made egg-nog in like decades [18:01] I only ask because the stock kernel doesnt come with that in the lilo.conf, but the /testing 2.6.30.5 requires it [18:01] on the topic of upgrading packages, has anybody tried running gtk+2.16 (current is 2.14.7)? [18:01] http://www.accidentalhedonist.com/media/yogsda.jpg its delish. [18:02] Skywise: I use a mix of brown and white sugar, vanilla extract, nutmeg, homogonized mild with a bit of condensed milk and for fortification I prefer Bushmills to RUn :) [18:03] and of course eggs :) [18:03] s/RUn/rum [18:03] i like spiced rum [18:03] xconfig says i need qt3... [18:04] I prefer Irish and Scotch whiskies. I like Appleton Estates rum (though many don't). It's a nice rum for whisky drinkers [18:05] i'm ont a whisky drinker, it tastes like wood to me, but i think its supposed too [18:05] s/ont/not [18:05] You like the taste of wood? [18:05] lol [18:05] no [18:05] morning wood too, he does. [18:05] i have no idea what thats like [18:06] why can't i use xconfig? [18:06] cause you were bad [18:06] i thought qt3 came with SW12 [18:06] 13* [18:08] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.86.7.104) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:08] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:09] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [18:10] nvm i'm fail [18:10] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:11] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [18:14] xNinja (~me@62.150.135.244) joined ##slackware. [18:14] hi [18:15] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:15] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-16-53.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:20] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [18:20] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:20] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-72-16.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:20] do these look like valid permissions for /var/log/maillog using postfix?: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2010-02-06 18:14 /var/log/maillog [18:20] hum, looks like updating to gtk+2.18 requires a significant amount of work [18:20] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:20] acidtripper (~gonza@190.19.205.115) joined ##slackware. [18:21] i was configuring postfix and ended up with a ton of garbage in the maillog, so i deleted it. but now, postfix won't write to it, and i'm not sure why [18:21] hi [18:21] i tried creating it again, but it still stays empty [18:21] someone there know howto make java work on firefox 3.6 [18:22] works fine here [18:22] checking for BASE_DEPENDENCIES... configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.21.3 atk >= 1.13.0 pango >= 1.20 cairo >= 1.6) were not met: [18:22] massive PITA [18:22] http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml [18:22] urso_ze_colmeia (~urso_ze_c@189.107.16.144) joined ##slackware. [18:23] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:24] zaltekk: restart postfix [18:24] ananke: i did. [18:24] should i maybe restart syslogd? [18:25] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-52-158.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:25] zaltekk: ahh, yes. since /var/log/maillog is managed by syslogd [18:25] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-72-16.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:25] zaltekk: next time if you want to truncate an open file, simply run 'echo -n > /that/file' [18:25] antiwire: i have just installed jdk from slackware repos, and that test says it works [18:25] ananke: right. i didn't think about it until after i deleted it [18:26] thanks [18:26] I don't even install the jdk and it works fine [18:28] antiwire: says it's working but facebook photo loader doesn't work :P and my girlfriend is around bothering me to upload some photos from vacations [18:28] facebook works for me though [18:28] their stupid photo loader is mostly broke anyway [18:28] bad test [18:28] aa [18:28] ardya: maybe it's broken [18:29] facebook did just roll out a new ajax interface for the site [18:29] it might not just be you that is having an issue with it [18:30] Well it works here [18:30] Maybe I'm just too cool [18:33] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:34] I just tried booting the USB installer for -current and got a message that it could not find a kernel named 'linux'. Same thing for 'huge.s', which I tried manually. Is this known? [18:35] I tried the exact same procedure for the one out of 13.0 and it worked. [18:35] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.40.109) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:36] veritos: It's current and it's broken right now [18:36] Someone else reported the same issue. [18:36] okay, that's understandable, i just wanted to make sure it was upstream and not my hardware that was broken [18:40] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:42] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:42] the 13.0 installer can install -current OK, if you need to [18:43] Here's a question anyone have GRUB working with 13.0? [18:43] sure [18:44] ardya: What grub verson are you running? [18:44] whatever was at gnu.org, I forget offhand [18:44] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:45] lol [18:46] acidtripper (~gonza@190.19.205.115) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:46] lf4: what about it [18:47] escaflown (elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [18:48] ardya: Well 0.97 is only 32bit but GRUB2 is 64bit(which should work with slackware, haven't tried that yet). [18:49] ok [18:50] Lindaa (rwer@41.236.13.115) joined ##slackware. [18:54] I was just attemping to install it from the package but that is known not to work since slack64 is 64bit. I just like grub better [18:56] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-84-99-48.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] i think it is pretty cool that grub2 can be used as a payload in coreboot [18:59] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:59] that has to be the single most usefull BIOS feature *evar*... to always have grub2 at hand, no matter what media is wiped/nuked/burned/inserted/upgraded [19:00] lf4, i've built and booted grub2 [19:01] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:01] thrice`: Thanks, guess I'll go that way, I just haven't had time. [19:02] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [19:02] lf4, fwiw, this is the slackbuild I wrote: http://github.com/abrouwers/ajb_slackbuilds/blob/master/grub/grub.SlackBuild [19:02] might be a good start [19:03] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:06] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:08] Thanks thrice` I'll check it out. 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[19:17] Cann0n (1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:18] rk4n3: ok, you need to unpack the mesa sources and put them where the script looks [19:18] eeek [19:18] rk4n3: false alarm.. tabfail (as usual) [19:18] macavity is now known as tabfail. :P [19:19] or maybe he just needs to install the headers/include files [19:19] nope.. i know that one [19:19] macavity: do you need a vista prompt for your autotab? :) [19:19] macavity, slackpkg install decenttabbutton [19:19] there is an option --with-mesa-source=/path [19:20] lf4: no, i need to notice that he was kicked :P [19:21] Haha couldn't you tell by all the messages followed by slackboy's kick? ;) How about I notifiy you of all kicks? [19:21] i would probably miss that too :P [19:22] I'd PM you it each and every time. :P [19:22] how/where does dolphin index the thumbnail files to the original files? [19:23] how about if you kick him everytime too, then he'd be sure to notice [19:23] I have scoured google and am reviewing the dolphin source code, but haven't found an answer yet [19:24] Delahunt (~robert@192.112.2.218) joined ##slackware. [19:24] Skywise: Don't have the option too but that would be funny. [19:24] gbaker (~gbaker@ppp121-44-206-38.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] mfillpot: did you check ~/.thumbnails directory? [19:25] you could do a trigger on your client [19:25] alisonken1home: that is where the thumbnai limages are, but I have not found where those images are indexed to match with the original files [19:26] mfillpot: afaik the location, and even creation, of thumbnails is handled by kdelib [19:26] Action: Delahunt is in dallas now [19:26] mfillpot: oh, that is based on hash [19:26] macavity: it that a filename or contents hash? [19:26] mfillpot: the filename is an md5 hash of the original image.. so you cant go from thumbnail to image, only image to thumbnail [19:27] mfillpot: filenames are hash, content is, iirc, png [19:27] yes, png [19:27] macavity: ty [19:27] can i say a big THANKYOU to everybody in the slackware world! how awesome is slack13!! :D [19:27] e6733c31fbd749159126038126baa647.png: PNG image, 256 x 170, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced [19:29] gbaker: you got it for free, and you get support for free.. consider donating to Slackware on store.slackware.com (you can get X ammounts of $1 donations) [19:30] Delahunt (~robert@192.112.2.218) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:30] eneerge (~eneerge@d-24-233-251-56.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] eneerge (~eneerge@d-24-233-251-56.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:30] eneerge (~eneerge@unaffiliated/eneerge) joined ##slackware. [19:32] macavity: to track the thumbnail to the original should I just run md5sum {filename}? [19:32] hay ppl I looking for the attention here . [19:32] dresik (~pwd@adkz68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:32] I am the expert. [19:32] slackware suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SABAYON THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!! [19:32] ehehe [19:32] viva ubuntu! [19:33] ms-dos rocks! [19:33] ubuntu is lame [19:33] macavity: if there was an aussie store :) although i noticed that there is an aussie cafepress store [19:33] freedos better [19:33] man its finally stopped snowing [19:33] who let the trolls in? we need to fire the doorman [19:33] LTL2h (~lulu@AToulouse-258-1-38-57.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: - [19:33] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@adkz68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:33] dresik kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: The short bus just pulled up. Bye-bye. [19:33] eneerge (~eneerge@unaffiliated/eneerge) left irc: Client Quit [19:34] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@124.43.44.154' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:34] mica__ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: That's twice now where you magically appeared with trollbait right before the troll arrives. I don't believe in coincidences. [19:34] kernel tree surpriringly quiet today [19:34] Greetings. [19:34] er sp [19:34] mfillpot: you cant [19:35] you can allwas tell it is the weekend, all the trolls and weirdos come crawlling out of the woodwork [19:35] rworkage [19:35] mfillpot: simple as that.. as if you could you would have pwned the md5 algorithm [19:35] i think its every ambitious to troll in a 2nd language [19:36] gbaker: you can pay with virtually any kind of plastic on store.slackware.com [19:36] er very ambitious [19:36] macavity: true [19:36] macavity: then how does kwin know which thumbnail to display for each file? [19:37] mfillpot: it md5 sums the full path to the image, then looks if it has a thumbnail with that has as filename [19:37] don't you mean thumbnail that has the same hash? [19:38] mfillpot: it has to be in one of the standard places, somewhere in ~/.kde or ~/.local or ~/.thumbnails [19:38] why would they have to make a thumbnail [19:38] alisonken1home: no, the filename of the thumbnail IS the hash of the original [19:38] they can clip it to a window and have it done dynamically [19:38] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Quit: In soviet windows, system operates YOU! [19:38] alkos333 (~alkos333@adsl-75-57-117-145.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] s/has as filename/hash as filename/ [19:39] I would guess since ~/.thumbnails directory has .png files that they are there [19:39] macavity: that's what I said :) [19:40] the thumbnail filename is the hash of the full path/name of the image [19:40] i am not guessing here.. a kde dev told me once [19:40] alisonken1home: exactly [19:40] which is why you cant map thumbnail->file, only file->thumbnail [19:41] neither hashing by the contents or the locate is working, I will try a few things [19:41] ikar (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [19:41] mfillpot: hashing the content would be prohibitively expencive [19:41] B4RR13N705 (~alpha@190.231.189.100) joined ##slackware. [19:41] hi, im writing a simple package manager that build packages from source. If anyone here used FreeBSD will known that when compiling from the ports, a screen appears letting you choose the build options. I want to do something like that, how can i check the build options? im using C++ [19:42] mfillpot: it works as i described before... if you *need* thumbnail->file you are screwed. period. [19:42] B4RR13N705: wrong channel [19:43] sveajobb (~tommy@c-7200e155.434-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:43] macavity: it can't be that hard, I am thinking that it may combine data from the image itself and the filepath to generate the hash [19:43] slackware uses slackbuilds, just run ./configure --help on the source and read the docs and i am sure you can build a fairly comprehensive slackbuild file for anything you run across [19:43] ikar (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Client Quit [19:43] B4RR13N705 (~alpha@190.231.189.100) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:44] mfillpot: you are either not listening, or you dont understand how a hash like md5 works [19:44] gbaker (gbaker@ppp121-44-206-38.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:46] macavity: I understand the hashes and what you were saying. I just want to find the logical way find the associated thumbnail file for a specific file on my system. The has hash method would stop me from tracking in reverse, but tracking from the file to the thumbnail should be easy. [19:47] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [19:48] mfillpot: roger.. i got you path reversed [19:49] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:49] macavity: the file name for the thumbnail I am looking at is f71e5dcdf861672e22b1a65b7221c6cc [19:49] macavity: the md5sum for the file is 2ac2f1801327c831fcaa3faab2cbc4af [19:50] mfillpot: yes, i dont know what kind of encoding kde keeps the paths in.. C++ strings differ a little from C array of char [19:50] and it could be stored in unicode internally [19:50] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [19:50] etc etc [19:51] mfillpot: but the md5sum of the file content is of no use in this context [19:51] macavity: and the md5sum of the filename coverted to a string is e8bae980b576d0522aa8d53c4147e1ff, so I can't see the relationship, but it should be easy to track with enough research [19:51] i thought i did not like kde4 before, mfillpot your problem is making me hate kde4 even more now, why should any desktop environment be so damn complicated that you have to decifer thumbnails for icons or any other reason [19:51] mfillpot: yups.. but i think that you may have to write a program for it.. [19:52] Pig_Pen: This isn't really a problem, but just looking to answer a question. I think they probably used the same method for kde3 [19:52] mfillpot: unix terminals take "non-null-terminated c strings" for granted [19:53] Pig_Pen: KDE3 used the exact same procedure... gnome uses it too (that is why .thumbnails/ is can be shared) [19:53] mac-: I will continue to review the source code to see if I can find the exact method used, this is just a puzzle for me and I want to find the answer. [19:53] i think i am going to be sticking to lightweight window managers in the future, openbox, fvwm, etc... [19:53] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] mfillpot: i think just asking on the KDE mailing list will be the fastest [19:54] Nemrioks (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [19:54] macavity: that is true, but some research on my end in the source code won't hurt anything [19:54] Pig_Pen: thumbnails is a nice feature.. but i dont want their generation or lookup time to kill my system [19:54] dErFz (~derf@unaffiliated/derfz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:54] mfillpot: then you need to look at one of the kdelib components.. as every standard open-file dialogue supports thumbnails [19:55] hi! how do i use vlc-player on slackware 13? [19:55] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] macavity: I am already in there [19:57] usr/lib/kde4/imagethumbnail.so looks good [19:57] grep thumb /var/log/packages/kdebase-runtime-4.3.4-i486-1 :P [19:58] macavity: I will check he kdebase-runtime source also, ty [19:58] Dulos (1000@c-68-56-157-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] Dulos (1000@c-68-56-157-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. 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[20:00] man any g++ users here [20:02] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:02] mfillpot: usr/lib/kde4/kio_thumbnail.so and usr/include/kio/thumbcreator.h <<-- those look really plausible [20:03] GooseYArd: just ask your question.. i might know, despite not really being a g++ user as such (but i know quite a bit about compilers in general) [20:03] Bullett with Steve McQueen on Turner Classic Movies [20:03] macavity: I am reviewing from the source kdebase-runtime/kioslave/thumbnail/thumbnail.cpp [20:03] mfillpot: that looks about right :-) [20:04] v4nelle (~van@79.103.135.146.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:04] im wondering if theres something similar to colorgcc but that understands g++ template errors [20:05] could be some xml file linking all the thumbnails too [20:05] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] Pig_Pen: that is what I was originally thinking, but by the filenames the hash method makes a lot more sense [20:06] Pig_Pen: that would be a huuuuge lookup.. i have +10K images.. and that is not even a lot [20:07] mfillpot: and is a shit load faster [20:07] ten thousand image files? sheesh! [20:07] for efficiency and hard drive space hashes are a very good method compared to an index file [20:07] Pig_Pen: imagine what a productive photo geek with an 8GB memory card can produce ;-) [20:08] maddWESTY (~root@pool-173-76-221-165.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:08] maddWESTY kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [20:08] maddWESTY (~root@pool-173-76-221-165.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:08] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@pool-173-76-221-165.bstnma.fios.verizon.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:08] maddWESTY kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: You are banned [20:09] yeah, i can imagine a shutterbug with a high capacity digital camera can swamp a system [20:09] yeah, he said banned already :o [20:10] i have a digital camera and probably took 3 dozen pics with it in the three years i owned it ;p [20:10] heh, slackboy is a tenacious bot:) [20:10] zomg, hitest! how goes it? [20:11] Pig_Pen: the cool thing about the md5sum-as-file-name-of-thumbnail is that the file manager can just blindly call fopen("~./thumbnails/normal/$MD5.png") and check the return value.. if NULL, call thumbnailcreate() [20:11] andarius: it is going well, thank you:) how are you? [20:12] macavity: my issue with just md5summing the path is that if the file changes the thumbnail will not, and I have seen the thumbnails update so there is something else in the hashing mechanism [20:13] hitest: I am well. pizza and beer time [20:13] nice. red wine for me......chicken dinner in a little over an hour. [20:13] NTU (~neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] is anybody here able to get lzop going? if so, how? [20:14] mfillpot: might include mtime too [20:14] btw hello all [20:14] hi [20:14] i just either leave the number the digital camera gives the photo or give it my own name, md5sum for a photo name seems like it is making it all more complicated than it needs to be, i do have about 1500 scanned family photos all named untitiled01.jpg thru untitled999.jpg but they are all separated in about 20 directories so photos with the same name dont overwrite eachother [20:15] using filenames isn't suitable for indexing photos [20:15] i compiled lzo and I linked to its header files using CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS but lzop still doesn't get passed ./configure [20:15] not enough detail [20:16] Pig_Pen: mfillpot has a point.. there needs to be extra checks than just filename.. like mtime [20:16] i think catagoried subdirectories would be easy for digital photo collections, names like vacation, jobsite, family, friends etc... [20:16] you need to use a format that supports appending data to the image file, like tiff tags [20:16] macavity: I finally figured out the best place to look based upon your information, if both gnome and kde use the same mechanism then it is a standard in freedesktop.org, so they should have it well documented. [20:17] but to each their own, everyone has their own burdens to handle their tasks [20:17] mfillpot: *headdesk* ;-) [20:17] NTU: you have a look through config.log for the error that killed configure? [20:17] Action: macavity nominates mfillpot for the ClearThought Award [20:17] you need a database to index your images [20:17] GooseYArd will do [20:17] you can do it a million ways from sunday, but in the end, thats what you need [20:18] epoch (~epoch@epoch.is.satanic.ro) joined ##slackware. [20:18] epoch (~epoch@epoch.is.satanic.ro) left irc: Changing host [20:18] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [20:18] if the images are small you can store them as blobs, but i don't like blobs, i'd rather use pointers [20:18] Skywise: i like the direction KDE is going here.. it wont be long before you only have to manually tag a couple of your images, and automated recognition will do the rest of them [20:19] thats not as helpful as it might seem [20:19] identifying people is useful, but you really need a context [20:20] if you want to find all your photos (among, say 1000k at a newspaper/magazine house) of Mr Whatever, then it is pretty damn nice :P [20:20] you should checkout the image matching mechanism in digikam, that is impressive [20:20] but what if you wanna find last summer's bbq [20:21] the thing with indexing documents, is you have to focus on how its going to be retrieved [20:21] mfillpot: that is, if i understand things, going to get merged with strigi/nepomuk/kthingie [20:21] macavity: that will be nice [20:23] KDE will probably end up the most self-integrated productivity and socially aware DE known to man... who knows, maybe it will be KDE that becomes self aware and evolves into skynet ;-) [20:24] http://pastebin.ca/1788623 [20:24] please don't bug me about what post site to use [20:24] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:25] use the post site to the left please... :o [20:25] macavity: http://jens.triq.net/thumbnail-spec/thumbsave.html [20:25] GooseYArd: any ideas? [20:26] hang on ill look [20:26] lol andarius post site to the left? [20:26] yeah, left. the one over <----------------------------- There [20:26] I like the right one better [20:27] Action: NTU thinks to himself "oh no.... what did i do.." [20:27] lf4: the right one is surely better than the wrong one. the one on the right however is no to the left :P [20:28] i like the post site down at the bottom.. [20:28] ntu, well its no able to link with liblzo during the test, I guess thats packaged separately from lzop [20:28] post at the bottom.. [20:28] its packaged with lzo i think [20:28] NTU: are you using a slackbuild? [20:29] no [20:29] ok - have a look at http://www.oberhumer.com/opensource/lzo/ [20:29] i think thats the library [20:29] ok, I got my answer, I am out for now [20:29] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm done for now [20:29] yeah i have lzo installed and i linked to it via LDFLAGS [20:29] which is why its weird [20:30] oh hm [20:31] where is liblzo.a on your machine? [20:32] yarvin (~yarvin@49-217-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:32] liblzo.a? nowhere. liblzo2.a? its in /usr/lib64 and its in /root/lzo-*/src/ [20:32] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:32] oh huh- the autoconf test is trying to link liblzo.a [20:32] oh [20:32] so we know why it fails [20:33] ill try compiling lzo 1 [20:33] i only compiled and installed version 2 [20:33] NTU, what are you trying to compile? [20:33] k bbiab gotta put some kids to bed [20:33] maybe thats why. oh hey thrice`! nice to see you again! [20:34] VanRoy (~kitsilano@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] thrice`: lzop so I can compile a kernel using LZO compression (not LZMA) [20:34] you can try to make it look in /usr/lib64 by adding this before configure: "LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib64" ./configure -blah [20:35] latest release is 2005? are you sure about this? ;) [20:35] VanRoy (kitsilano@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) left ##slackware. [20:35] i tried that too [20:35] I think I need version 1 of lzo [20:35] lzop seems pretty dead [20:36] but its faster than gzip [20:36] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:36] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:39] YES! works. [20:39] I just bought a new 1Tb internal sata drive but I cant find it. What does linux call em? I dont see anything new in /dev [20:40] use "fdisk -l" [20:40] does it show up in bios? [20:40] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [20:40] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Disconnected by services [20:40] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:41] StonedSlacker: sata is typically sdX [20:41] I didnt look at bios yet, nice andarius! [20:41] Action: andarius is nice, really nice if you ask him :) [20:42] I bought a dvi to hdmi cable as well so I could finally use the hd capability of my tv and video card, looks like shit, way worse than the vga. So, I got a couple irons in the fire atm [20:43] Action: StonedSlacker suspects that andarius is really nice when asked. [20:43] StonedSlacker: it shouldn't look bad [20:43] StonedSlacker: maybe you just need MONSTER CABLE(R) :P [20:43] lol [20:43] nah, $50 was enough to spend [20:44] Im an idiot. I never had a sata drive before, I guess I should find a power cord so I can plug it in [20:45] it should be a black thin cable. kinda like a skinny wide USB connector. [20:46] skinny wide? wtf! [20:46] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:46] uhmm, $50? you really need to be educated where to buy cables [20:46] well unless you use an old sata drive which uses the 4 pins [20:46] for $50 you could get 15 such cables [20:46] whoa what? [20:47] http://gizmodo.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/08/sata33.jpg [20:47] ... [20:47] stonedslacker, spawn of thrice ? [20:47] stonedslacker is gone [20:47] omg, your sister said it wasn't mine [20:48] oh shut up [20:48] I am guessing the 50$ was refernce to a dvi to hdmi cable. not really cheap anywhere [20:48] newegg you can get them cheaper [20:49] not 15 for 50$ cheaper [20:49] like 25 bucks or something from cables unlimited or whatever [20:49] some one here is on crack [20:49] who? ananke? [20:49] or me? [20:49] or talking out of their rear :o [20:50] the 15 for 50$ guy [20:50] Action: andarius wont name names ;) [20:50] andarius: don't be a douchebag [20:50] hahaha [20:50] seriously. if you want to be a dick, man up to it, you pansy [20:50] I wasnt, you are the one name calling [20:50] wow, wtf [20:50] ok you kids! im out [20:50] NTU (~neo1993@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:50] keep calling nanes... show your inteligence... [20:50] s/nanes/names/ [20:51] right. like you have much to talk, dipwad [20:51] nice, keep going... [20:51] surely you can do better [20:51] i'll let you continue being an imbecile [20:51] ls ~/.thumbnails/normal/$(echo -n "file:///home/charlotte/Billeder/car-dog.jpg" | md5sum | cut -d ' ' -f 1).png [20:51] lol [20:51] right..... [20:51] alisonken1home: ok, i haz it now :P [20:51] 15 for 50$ guy [20:52] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:52] john_dee (~id@95-29-145-104.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [20:52] or should be it "name calling guy"? one for a vote there [20:52] macavity: found the proper hash :) [20:53] andarius: waaah [20:53] ananke/andarius: go back to solaris/waffles and leave each other alone :P [20:53] dvi to hdmi converter. $4.19. that's $1 more than they were awhile ago [20:54] Action: ananke isn't the douchebag who started name calling [20:54] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [20:54] show me where I started name calling please [20:54] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [20:54] solaris? now that's insulting :( [20:54] 20:49 andarius> not 15 for 50$ cheaper 20:49 andarius> some one here is on crack 20:49 andarius> or talking out of their rear :o [20:54] 20:50 andarius> the 15 for 50$ guy [20:54] Action: GooseYArd moons the channel [20:54] OMG [20:55] that is name calling? [20:55] >_< [20:55] ananke: who *haven't* you been in exactly this type of argument with in this channel? You are an idiot. [20:55] wow.. fuel to the fire.. and everyone burns. [20:55] andarius: what, are you an idiot? [20:55] Dominian, quiet troll [20:55] you cant stop can you ? [20:55] Action: Dominian adds more 'fuel' [20:55] thrice`: :P [20:55] lol [20:55] :> [20:55] andarius: you started it. what, can't take it anymore? [20:55] name after name after name [20:56] my name is earl [20:56] good show [20:56] I am still here. if nothing more thatn to see you keep going [20:56] it is [20:56] andarius: man up to your insults [20:56] i just discovered it too [20:56] Skywise: not sure why I thought of that lol [20:56] Dominian: meeeeh.. gets old if you watch it past season one [20:56] only to learn it was cancelled last year [20:56] pseudonymous: yeah but still :P [20:56] Action: thumbs votes to /kb Dominian [20:56] Mrx3000 (~pat@20.110.208.203.cable.dyn.gex.ncable.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:56] I was not meant as an insult. perhaps you have some personal issues? [20:56] thumbs: sweet! [20:56] Dominian: heh [20:57] season 4 is hilarious [20:57] andarius: right. because when you tell people they're on crack, it's clearly _not an insult_ [20:57] nope [20:57] Skywise: I'm waiting on March to roll around so I can finish up watching Flash Forward [20:57] Action: Dominian is on crack [20:57] Mrx3000 (~pat@20.110.208.203.cable.dyn.gex.ncable.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [20:57] andarius: ohh, then by all means, enlighten me. what exactly did you mean? [20:57] are you done calling names? [20:57] at least someone today thought I was.. cause I'm carrying around this vaporizer and smoking it instead of a cig hehe [20:57] Action: phrag is on slack [20:57] andarius: are you? again, you started it [20:58] ..oh wait [20:58] phrag: is slack = crack? [20:58] ahh fail [20:58] err.. isn't [20:58] er.. doesn't.. wow.. grammar fail [20:58] 20:49 andarius> or talking out of their rear :o [20:58] still not name calling [20:58] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:58] reference to an action maybe :o [20:58] andarius: you're talking out of your ass [20:58] Action: thumbs votes to /kb phrag too! [20:58] i seen those DVI to HDMI cables priced wildly high and sometimes reasonably priced, just depends [20:59] Action: macavity votes phrag to /kb now..... [20:59] monoprice is one of the cheapest places for those. for $50 you can load up on 20 different cables [20:59] ok, now that everyone has been peed on, lets change the subject [20:59] I don't know about you, but I don't have blu-ray equipment yet, and don't plan on getting any. [20:59] even at 5$ each you arent getting 15 for 50$. why not admit you feed some one a line and be done with it? [20:59] Pig_Pen: hehe I bought an HDMI cable for my xbox .. 19 bucks.. then saw a longer cheaper one at big lots for 10.. I wasn't happy hehe [20:59] andarius: man up [21:00] blueray looks tempting for a backup media, but i don't know if you can really get the 35/55gb out of it at home [21:00] ananke: to what? your failure? [21:00] andarius: to your incompetence [21:00] did I say you were on crack? yes. that you feed some one a line, yes [21:00] 8oO [21:00] ** Now ignoring andarius [21:00] ** Now ignoring ananke [21:00] Skywise: hrm.. yeah I dunno [21:00] andarius: so what exactly do you call that, if not name calling? [21:00] Skywise: I would get it for the movies, if my TV was good enough. Removeable storage is not really a concern. [21:00] Action: andarius walks away [21:01] Skywise: personally I'd probably wait a while before using blu-ray as a backup medium [21:01] the specs have to match up i think, my video card probably does a full 1080i but my older generation LCD TV with hdmi input is probably 720i and when i used a DVI to HDMI cable everything was too big for the screen [21:01] i don't watch movies, let alone buy one [21:01] Pig_Pen: that could be [21:01] Dominian, tape is all thats around that capacity, and tape sux [21:01] Pig_Pen: I know that my 50" tv does 720p... it'll take in 1080p, but converts it :( [21:01] Skywise: for backups, a usb2 or fw external device is much more efficient. [21:01] Skywise: eh? [21:01] Skywise: You can do usb2. [21:01] yeah wat thumbs said [21:02] hehe [21:02] or usb3! =) [21:02] Lindaa (rwer@41.236.13.115) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:02] and SSD drives are starting to come down in price [21:02] really? 50gb over usb2? [21:02] phrag: ha! [21:02] Dominian agreed with me! wow! [21:02] Skywise: sure. [21:02] Linux is the only OS to support usb3 (last time i checked) [21:02] Skywise: it's much faster than burning a disk. [21:02] thumbs: no.. I agreed so I could later disagree when I think you're wrong! [21:02] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:02] i think maybe esata [21:02] Dominian: you're turning into rob0 now. [21:02] Action: jeev votes to kline thumbs [21:02] esata would work [21:02] thumbs: haha [21:02] OS/kernel [21:02] hdmi-dvi cable. $3.24/each. 10-19 quantity = $2.92/ea, making it $43 for 15 cables: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2661&seq=1&format=2 [21:02] jeev: already done, a month ago. [21:03] eat my shorts [21:03] add shipping [21:03] phrag: i know that regulars get a longer leash than others.. but listening to mud throwing like that gets old pretty fast... [21:03] thumbs: haha was that one of those "I clikced a link" klines? [21:03] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Dominian: not I. A wireless user, in the end. (not me) [21:03] thumbs: smack 'em [21:03] $54 total. [21:03] :) [21:03] Dominian: already done. [21:03] so fail still [21:04] right. because the task at hand was to be as exact as possible. you fail [21:04] Dominian: so the freenode op was right, and I apologize for the inconvenience. [21:04] andarius: why are you such a dipwad? seriously. why do you have to _start_ stuff with me? [21:04] macavity: tbh, i've not followed the conversation and try to avoid getting involved in minor disputes unless it detracts from the channel or users complain... can i be of assistance? [21:04] thumbs: lmao [21:04] Action: Dominian complains to phrag [21:04] phrag: Wait.. you still work for IBM? [21:05] wait, it was phrag how k-lined me. [21:05] how about we all drop it and be friendly for the sake of majority? =) [21:05] phrag: some already have ;) [21:05] i think they've well covered the points in each of their arguments [21:05] wish it was on youtube [21:05] Dominian: no, not at present, awaiting a SA position somewhere local but nice =) [21:05] phrag: ahhhh [21:05] Dominian, can repeat the kline so we can youtube it ? [21:06] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [21:06] phrag: IBM not so nice anymore? [21:06] jeev: I'll k/b you from all my channels! [21:06] thumbs: in process, still an option =) [21:06] thumbs, i accidently joined #chickflicks i didn't know you owned that channel [21:07] phrag: you still have me on gtalk, right? [21:07] im sort of happy i converted my postfix server to slackizware [21:07] thumbs: yes =) [21:08] good. [21:08] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:09] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [21:09] how are all you guys? (those i've not seen in awhile) [21:09] phrag: working 7 days a week. [21:09] little older, little rounder [21:09] glad someone is =P [21:10] it gets old after a month. [21:10] paychecks too? [21:10] thumbs: maybe it's time for a change [21:10] no, unfortunately, not paid for weekends. [21:11] I must be doing something wrong - I'm getting older but NOT rounder [21:11] thumbs, i know someone up there at mcdonalds, i'll tell them you're getting mistreated [21:11] stfu [21:11] alisonken1home, that's a great thing! [21:11] alisonken1home: more McDonald's, less working out. [21:11] now if we could just figure out how to stop growing older [21:11] When there is no xorg.conf file, how can I find what video driver is being used? [21:11] it's funny how some business depends on a few core employees who pull tricks out of their hats to get things done. [21:11] you can die [21:11] according to the wife, I already spend too much at mickey-d's going to work [21:11] usr13: check the xorg log [21:12] other then that, you gotta get older [21:12] alisonken1home: a nice big glass of olive oil with every meal should clear that right up ;-) [21:12] if it weren't for dedicated folks, infrastructures would fall apart. [21:12] macavity: don't have any problems either way :) [21:13] thumbs: well be careful, i was dedicated(IMO)... now i'm jobless. :/ [21:13] ananke: aaahhh yes, thank you. [21:13] macavity, americans cant afford to drink a "big glass of olive oil", not in terms of monies.. but the fat, calories and other stuff. [21:13] agentc0re: not gonna happen here. [21:13] we have big glasses of olive oil in french fries and everything else we eat [21:13] theres no olive oil in america you could drink [21:13] agentc0re: if I leave, the customer service site breaks, the support breaks, and more things go wrong. [21:13] he meant like a tablespoon dood. [21:13] thumbs: ya, i thought the same. [21:14] and there is no olive oil in french fries [21:14] omg [21:14] wendy's in spain uses olive oil [21:14] agentc0re: no, literally, everything is depending on me. [21:14] they're the best fries ever [21:14] thumbs: are you the only admin? [21:15] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [21:15] agentc0re: the only competent one. No one else knows linux / perl / php. [21:15] Skywise: too bad olive oil saturates at around 160C, but you need 180-200C for good fries [21:15] you'd think differently when you have some [21:15] agentc0re: the new hire, for instance, prefers C#, which is useless for the rest of us. [21:15] Skywise: in belgium they double fry them, including animal fat. supposedly they're also very good [21:15] Skywise: the *real* treat is when you use coco ghee :-) [21:15] thumbs, dont they take your advice before hiring someone ? [21:16] but that is too expencive for any burger chain to use [21:16] now thats exotic [21:16] jeev: yes, but the hire claimed he knew , then turned around. [21:16] why didn't you test him [21:16] i'd be so screwed if I lost my job >_< [21:16] i guess you can make ghee from coco, but i haven't heard of it before [21:16] jeev: too busy. I can't be bothered to screen new hires. [21:16] thrice`, with 12 years experience at mcdonalds, i bet burger king would take you in a heart beat [21:16] i see [21:16] jeev: see the part where I have to work 7 days. [21:17] your CEO needs to come under cover and work beside you, from OPRAh [21:17] i was watching with my girlfriend [21:17] he'll give you a bonus + new hires and change stuff around [21:17] Skywise: in coconut oil, only the solids tast of coco.. the fat itself is virtually tasteless.. so, heat the oil to ~50C and pour it through a coffe filter -> ghee [21:17] yes, but burger king won't give me enough for my new mortgage. they'd make me start back at janitor [21:17] thrice`, ouch man sorry [21:17] anyhow, I feel like driving to wendy's now. [21:18] yeah, i make ghee from butter usually [21:18] thumbs: i pulled 150+ hrs in 2 weeks to fix a AD domain that crashed and burned.. by myself i might add(because only I knew what to do and how to do it). i took a week off to come back to "you were almost fired while gone and now your co-worker is in charge of you and IT".. [21:18] and use it on lobster [21:18] this is funny. i had an extra toslink cable in the basket. removing it brought the total with s&h to $51 [21:18] you should prolly get permission before taking time off [21:19] Skywise: and it has awesome properties: doesnt saturate untill 230C, so it is a lot healthier, and last longer. It is a lighter oil -> not so heavy on callories & gives a deeper fry -> crisper fries [21:19] agentc0re: is he competent? [21:19] thumbs: so, i guess the point i'm am trying to make is no one really cares. You see the world how it is on your side but on their side they probably don't think the grass grows as green as you say it does. We're a dime a dozen. [21:19] thumbs: no [21:19] peanut oil is a good cooking oil too [21:19] thumbs: i quit 2 fridays ago because of that though. [21:20] i use peanut oil typically now [21:20] agentc0re: probably right in bigger companies. We have 7 employees. [21:20] i liked canola oil before monsanto gm'd it [21:20] thumbs: we were a very small company.. but not that small. :D about 150 employee's. [21:21] you can't presume your management knows or understands what you do [21:21] Skywise: my boss does. [21:21] Skywise: and the CEO does, too. [21:21] thats rare [21:21] most have no idea [21:22] ya it is, which is why my scenario happened the way it did. [21:22] they don't wanna know, they just want that facility taken care of [21:22] the owners and the bosses where I work are pretty much on top of how our company setup is - and MS admins are a rare breed in our environment :) [21:22] bjqrn (bjqrn@c-6e0fe255.023-21-7673743.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:23] Steaki (~steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:23] bjqrn (bjqrn@c-6e0fe255.023-21-7673743.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [21:23] most management consider IT types interchangeable [21:23] a commoditty [21:23] to tell you the truth, I feel lucky that my age didn't play into it as much [21:24] Steaki (~steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [21:25] alisonken1home, i put a good word in for you [21:26] jeev: thanks :) [21:27] my wife got her last promotion after she explained what she did to her vp in a way he understood by using a football analogy [21:27] i'm not too sure i want to hear it. [21:27] sometimes you gotta go outside the corporate walls to explain things :) [21:28] is it what happens after a game and the players need a massage? or during [21:28] lol [21:28] she explained how she should be the special teams coach for the organization [21:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@adsl-75-57-117-145.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:28] she does web development and publishing [21:29] she doesn't run the projects, but puts their presentation and such together [21:29] DralaFi (~dralafi@host86-150-109-171.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:30] her boss didn't understand what the so called webmaster really does [21:30] crazy [21:31] Sounds like she gave him a blowjob. [21:31] but he understood how the analogy [21:31] Of course. [21:31] :D [21:31] that's blunt [21:31] i was going to message him and ask if that's what she did [21:31] no, he's doing someone else in the office already [21:32] That's comforting, because we all know that one piece is enough for any man. [21:32] well, he's got the wife at home [21:32] :) I'm just (half-)kidding - ignore me :) [21:33] but anyway, the moral of the story is, she was just in the IT department working for an idiot [21:34] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@adkz68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl expired. [21:34] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@adkz68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:34] she explained to the head guy what she does and he promoted her and gave her, her own department [21:35] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@124.43.44.154 expired. [21:35] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@124.43.44.154' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:35] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:38] so just don't expect them to know what you do, or the implications [21:40] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:42] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:45] xNinja (~me@62.150.135.244) left irc: Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20080809) - www.ircN.org [21:49] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:50] I cant find a cable for my sata [21:50] Also I cant remember what the default display driver was so I can try it [21:50] is this internal on your system or an external enclosure? [21:51] internel [21:51] see if you have a sata power adapter [21:51] ok - sata cables should have come with the board, so may want to check the box your system came in [21:51] otherwise time for another trip to fries [21:51] it might be with your chassis, psu or mb accessories [21:52] or frye's - however they spell it [21:52] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:52] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:52] I have a connection on the mobo for tha sata cable, does it get its power through there or is there another cable needed [21:52] why did TruTV call NFL the worlds greatest sport [21:52] The latter. [21:52] theres another cable [21:53] the cable to the mb is only for data [21:53] Shit, lemme dig in my bag o cables [21:53] why don't you go on newegg and see what one looks like first [21:53] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] found it! [21:54] Who knows? It's difficult to argue when out of a 60 minute game, only 8% or thereabouts is action. [21:54] the clock isn't how the game progresses [21:54] I gotta shutdown, brb [21:54] gm152: except for Rugby. 100% non stop action. [21:55] its a turned based sport [21:55] it increments in downs [21:55] the clock only limits the action [21:58] pipes (~pipes@freedomisnothingtofear.com) joined ##slackware. [21:59] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:01] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:02] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-24.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] heya,folks [22:03] m0n-Eh (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-131-16.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] m0n-E (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-131-16.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:05] neat read http://www.howtoforge.com/custom_iptables_firewall [22:05] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:06] hiya MLanden [22:06] heya,hitest...how's the night for ya? [22:07] MLanden: pretty good thanks:) how are you? [22:08] not too bad thanks hitest....just sandboxin' with a laptop and the newer(2.6.32.7) kernel [22:09] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!root@* expired. [22:09] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@pool-173-76-221-165.bstnma.fios.verizon.net expired. [22:09] ##slackware: mode change '-bb *!root@* *!*@pool-173-76-221-165.bstnma.fios.verizon.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:09] nice [22:09] I'm also liking 2.6.32.7 in -current:) [22:10] urso_ze_colmeia (~urso_ze_c@189.107.16.144) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:10] Nick change: fatalnix -> fatalnix1995 [22:14] night all [22:14] take care,hitest [22:14] EKay5 (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-131-16.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] hey MLanden, how are you? [22:14] night MLanden [22:14] m0n-Eh (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-131-16.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:14] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [22:15] heya,fire|bird....doin' great for the night ... you? [22:15] MLanden: doing very well, thank you. :) [22:17] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: just when you thought you had enough storage, you realize you never can [22:21] can someone look at this sample and tell me if the last story shows relatively normal quotes, or is the text of the story littered with garbage? http://joeykelly.net/hacks/fvsection.html [22:21] dErFz (znc@217.18.70.128) joined ##slackware. [22:21] thanks [22:25] wtf? [22:25] The LSU AgCenter will offer two programs in Jackson on February 9 and February 11 etc...etc...etc... [22:26] i opened it with lynx [22:26] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) joined ##slackware. [22:26] fire|bird: You might be interested in this. http://lifehacker.com/5464485/build-a-high+speed-laser+triggered-photography-rig-to-capture-split-second-exposures [22:26] macavity (~macavity@212088073002.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:27] i never let unknown websites have access to javascript enabled web browsers [22:27] holy crap, I'll take a few of those setups. ;) [22:28] fire|bird: I know haha I want to build one now. *drools* [22:28] yeah, no doubt, that'd be awesome. [22:32] Pig_Pen: no garbage characters? [22:32] EKay5 (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-131-16.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:32] nope, looks clean [22:32] thanks [22:32] m0n-E (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-131-16.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] godaddy takes a few oddball characters and trashes them, printing garbage to the screen [22:34] pipes (~pipes@freedomisnothingtofear.com) left irc: Quit: rebootz [22:34] http://imagebin.org/83688 http://imagebin.org/83689 take a look mmlj4 [22:36] avoiding godaddy like the plauge will solve that problem ;) [22:36] darkwurm: I agree... I'm trying to get them to agree to move the site [22:36] to my server :-) [22:37] nothing too serious, is that $ (dollar sign) supposed to be there? [22:37] heh good call [22:37] _theradar (yamabushi@detached.ircii.de) joined ##slackware. [22:37] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:37] Inomanius (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [22:38] how do i delete a directory with files in it? [22:38] lol [22:38] rm -rf ? 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[22:43] the files i've deleted was only the vlc-player...was installed on the Desktop...and i didn't find any commands to undo the install [22:44] Inomanius, are you on slackware 13? 32 or 64 bit? [22:44] Inomanius: alienBOB has VLC packages [22:44] slackware 13 32-bits, yes [22:44] usus12jari (~ashe@114.56.252.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:45] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/pkg/13.0/ use that :) [22:45] ok, thanks, i would try that :) [22:46] Kamel (~1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] usus12jari (~ashe@114.56.114.112) joined ##slackware. [22:51] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [22:51] slackwarebob (~bobby@adsl-76-249-232-130.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:52] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [22:53] haqe17 (~lucius@137.205.18.185) joined ##slackware. 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