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[00:10] Nick change: alreadygone -> Oak [00:10] JosephK (~Light@farmville.parisceramicsusa.com) joined ##slackware. [00:10] Hiya all [00:13] Anyone good with installs? I am installing 12.2 on a HP Proliant Blade server with a CCISS raid 5 array... It installed fine but won't seem to boot... Can't seem to install LILO on the master boot record... Trying on the Superblock now... Any tips past that?? [00:16] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:17] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:18] rockslinux (~rockslinu@213.87.194.67) left irc: Quit: ? [00:20] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:20] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:22] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.50) joined ##slackware. [00:24] alisonken1home: did you ever get the similar issue of JosephK figured out on your raid setup with lilo? [00:24] JosephK, you need to fix /etc/fstab [00:24] The installer doesn't do cciss correctly [00:24] Action: Motoko-chan has had that issue before. [00:25] alisonken1home: nvm [00:25] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [00:27] okay [00:27] thanks [00:27] I found something about that I have to pass a parameter at boot to use that [00:27] boot=/dev/cciss/c0d0p2 [00:28] Check fstab [00:30] cmsouza (~chatzilla@c9067bea.static.spo.virtua.com.br) left irc: Disconnected by services [00:30] cmsouza (~chatzilla@c9067bea.static.spo.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:30] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:30] cmsouza (~chatzilla@c9067bea.static.spo.virtua.com.br) left irc: Disconnected by services [00:31] cmsouza_ (~chatzilla@c9067bea.static.spo.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:31] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:31] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:31] cmsouza (~chatzilla@189.121.152.138) joined ##slackware. [00:31] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:32] This thing is killing me [00:33] it never even gets to lilo or for that matter the raid array for a try at the boot [00:33] It's like the drive is fried [00:33] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:33] It would not install LILO on the MBR it would only install on the superblock is that bad?? [00:33] Will look at fstab of course [00:34] The thing is, I have never gotten vi to work on CD boot [00:34] which pisses me off [00:34] JosephK: unless i`m mistaken to boot from raid you have to compile the kernel with raid support built in somebody correct me please [00:34] 12.2 generic huge should support. [00:34] You need to fix fstab AND lilo.conf, then re-install [00:35] re-install lilo (via re-running "lilo") [00:36] What is the easiest way to check whether I currently have a library installed in Slackware 13? [00:36] All those look right [00:36] CelestialWurm, ls /var/log/packages | grep _name_ [00:36] JosephK, hmmmm [00:36] They are all pointing to the right shit [00:36] Try running lilo again? [00:37] It should be able to install to MBR if lilo.conf is set up right. [00:37] Motoko-chan: I love you. [00:37] get a room [00:38] Sorry, I (probably) don't swing your way. [00:39] That's awesome. [00:39] Motoko-chan: It's cool. Another question though, when you put the "| grep _name_" am I supposed to put the library I am looking for in _name_? [00:39] Motoko-chan It would seem that it got an error... Warning LB32 addressing assumed creat /boot/map No such file or directory [00:39] _name_ is the package name, or part of it. [00:39] JosephK, hmmmm [00:39] The LBA32 isn't bad. [00:39] If it comes up blank am I right to assume that I don't have it? [00:39] The LBA32 part is a warning not an error [00:40] How are you booted? [00:40] On CD? [00:40] CelestialWurm, you could. [00:40] It could be likely you are right. [00:40] Motoko-chan: Thanks for the help then ;D. [00:40] You could also search for a file name if you want. [00:41] vldmr (100@187.64.35.132) joined ##slackware. [00:41] JosephK, those questions are for you [00:41] I am booted on CD [00:41] Did you mount / ? [00:41] yeah in tmp [00:42] I recommend re-mounting on /mnt [00:42] Bad idea to use /tmp [00:42] ok trying [00:42] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet. [00:42] Then, chroot to /mnt [00:42] And run [00:42] mount -a [00:42] *Then* try lilo [00:44] okay I did mount /dev/cciss/c0d0p2 [00:44] which worked [00:44] then [00:44] I went to /mnt/sbin [00:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:44] and typed lilo -C ../etc/lilo.conf and it worked [00:44] you think I got it?? [00:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:45] mmm... [00:45] we shall see I guess [00:45] It is attempting a boot now [00:45] The-Croupier (Arbi_Goce@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [00:45] If not, do it my way. [00:45] what was different the -a on the mount command?? [00:46] Did you chroot? [00:46] chroot?? [00:46] chroot /mnt [00:46] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:46] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [00:46] OK [00:46] Starting over again [00:47] mount /dev/cciss/c0d0p2 /mnt [00:47] chroot /mnt [00:47] mount -a [00:47] lilo [00:47] In that order. [00:47] The thing that bugs me is, it's like it's a bios issue... It tries C then CD rom then just goes for net boot [00:47] it's nuts [00:47] It's because lilo isn't properly installed. [00:47] This is killing me [00:47] I am going to do exactly as you say [00:47] Just have a bit of patience. I've done this before. [00:48] No currently-running to check against, live. [00:48] okay wait you have 2 mount commands there [00:48] Yep. [00:48] First one would mount / based on the partition you mentioned. [00:48] Is #2 / ? [00:49] yup [00:49] What about #1 and such? [00:49] swap 4 gigs [00:50] Nothing else? [00:50] nope [00:51] Okay. [00:51] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] I'd still run those commands to be safe. [00:51] The first one mounts / on /mnt [00:51] I did all that [00:51] it's all done [00:51] The second switches to /mnt as root [00:51] Third mounts all partitions in fstab. [00:51] Then you run lilo [00:51] What does lilo say? [00:52] the earlier warning and then added linux * [00:52] Okay [00:52] But I swear it's like it isn't even LOOKING at the raid to boot... Like there is a bios issue [00:52] What does boot read in lilo.conf? [00:52] is it bad that it would not work in the Master Boot Record?? [00:52] I had to install it on the superblock [00:53] If the MBR is empty, the system will bypass the disk to boot from. [00:53] What is boot set to in lilo.conf? [00:53] boot - correct device [00:53] Don't parse it. Raw output please. [00:54] What specifically does it say? [00:54] boot = /dev/cciss/c0d0p2 [00:54] Remove the p2 from that. [00:54] boot = /dev/cciss/c0d0 [00:54] Then re-run lilo [00:54] okay [00:55] done [00:55] now what?? [00:55] No errors? [00:55] nope [00:55] Try booting now. [00:55] booting [00:55] hold on to your butts [00:56] what arey ou trying to do with cciss i have that [00:56] jeev, boot from it [00:56] holy SHIT you are a GOD [00:56] I love you [00:56] If I was a woman I would have your children [00:56] thanks [00:57] But I am not and I don't roll that way... Sorry [00:57] hehehehe [00:57] If you were a woman, I might like you. [00:57] Well we will just have to be buds then [00:57] hehehehehe [00:57] JosephK, you need to do something to him to 'repay' him [00:57] Action: Motoko-chan goes back to her tv show [00:57] her?! [00:57] phoenix^ (fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("I guess i had to go to that place to get to this one...."). [00:57] Ummm.... [00:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:58] How about a coupon for 20% off a quarter pounder meal at McDonalds?? [00:58] not interseted [00:58] interested [00:58] OKay [00:58] Don't worry, it's okay. [00:58] i however would love a mcflurry [00:58] How about a date with Jodie Foster?? [00:58] Deal [00:58] When you get to Farmville, McDonalds McFlurry on me [00:58] thanks so much [00:58] what a coincidence, im there tomorrow [00:58] TO think, you could have had a date with Jodie Foster [00:59] oh well, McFlurry is easier [01:00] who wants to date jodie foster, brb [01:00] I gotta hand it to you guys... I do jeev... anyway thanks jeev, and Mo [01:00] IOU [01:00] blaines (~blaines@64-130-243-194.sparkplugbb.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:00] Night guys [01:00] JosephK (~Light@farmville.parisceramicsusa.com) left irc: Quit: Ciao [01:01] veritos (veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:02] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet? [01:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [01:04] having a bit of a problem with my laptop: booted twice, and it stopped (blank screen); rebooted, no love -- it gets to lilo, then does the bios check (okay), then just a blank screen instead of all the good boot sequence stuff. any ideas what's going on? [01:04] i'm thinking my HDD is going or gone... [01:04] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:04] latemus (~m@c-24-10-210-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] what happened around the time it stopped working? [01:07] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:07] steinberg (~sb@67.23.167.36) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:08] hey mancha: i had tossed it in the car (first time in a while that it had been down), came home, set it up, and booted [01:08] it seemed a bit odd [01:08] do you have a live cd you can boot that would have smartctl? [01:08] made it to slackware, but then it just offed itself [01:08] rebooted [01:08] even weirder [01:08] and now, nothing [01:08] mancha, i have systemrescuecd [01:08] and that won't boot [01:09] i also tried disk one of slack12 [01:09] so your CD/DVD drive won't work either? [01:09] again, no luck [01:09] no no [01:09] it will start the boot process [01:09] but then there is a kernel panic [01:09] uh, that makes no sense [01:09] indeed [01:09] i am talking about sysresccd now [01:09] i know [01:09] it should just boot [01:09] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:09] well then your issue is not the HD [01:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [01:10] faulty ram? [01:10] wondering if i got dinked with a virus or so [01:10] could be [01:10] could be any piece of hardware [01:10] run memtest [01:10] hard to tell [01:10] lol, how? [01:10] i can't get far enough to run [01:10] hoobop: try ubcd and test all the hardware, ram hd etc... offtopic maybe but useful i guess [01:10] you[ve tried? [01:10] unless it will run from the boot: prompt [01:11] i'll give it a go [01:11] yeah, i've tried most of what i know [01:11] you don't use the boot: prompt! does your bios not let you boot off cd/dvd? [01:11] it does [01:11] but i'm not able to boot ANYTHING [01:11] not sysresc, not slack12 disc 1 [01:11] nothing [01:12] steinberg (~sb@67.23.167.36) joined ##slackware. [01:12] it's just odd [01:12] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:12] some HW fail then..try to find out what failed. [01:12] my guess was RAM since it once worked...but thats merely a guess [01:13] oh, and since it's not fair to ask for diag help without giving all the information, 3 days ago we had a power outage here; it's already cost me the cap in a 21" trinitron -- so we had a surge [01:13] the trinitron is dead [01:13] totally gone [01:14] hoobop, it's not really a slackware issue so you won't get help here. but it sounds to me like HW (not HD) [01:14] thanks mancha [01:14] also the laptop should survive a surge as the PS is what should die... [01:14] i'll start doing a step by step and see what piece is fried [01:14] unless a bolt of lightning hit it directly [01:14] that's what i thought too [01:14] maybe it's the AC adaptor [01:15] could be [01:15] again, at this point, could be any piece of hardware [01:15] thanks for the help, though [01:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:15] seems i'm just going to have to go at this till i figure it out [01:15] and you're right, it's not a slackware problem [01:17] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:17] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("We were always meant to say goodbye..."). [01:19] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.104.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [01:20] latemus (~m@c-24-10-210-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:20] the failure on the slackware 12 disk boot is "failed to execute /init" [01:20] it goes through the boot sequence to that point [01:21] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [01:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:22] TriniTuX (~chatzilla@cuscon122882.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [01:22] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. 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[01:36] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:36] this sounds too me like it is booting from HD [01:36] s/too/to [01:36] hey mancha, yes, it runs off the cd [01:37] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [01:37] that error makes no sense off the CD though [01:37] and yes, i agree, sounds like it's looking on my HD for the /sbin/init etc [01:37] agreed [01:37] and that's why i'm stumped [01:38] remove th hd [01:38] lol... great minds [01:38] yeah, that crossed my mind [01:38] get rid of that, and the box can't complain about anything on it [01:39] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-170.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] i'm going to try a usb floppy and an old win98 disk first [01:40] (man, it is REALLY old -- it shows) [01:40] lol [01:43] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:44] mancha, you were right; it's not the drive, it comes up [01:44] now i'm even more confused [01:44] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-37.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [01:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:51] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:00] steinberg (~sb@67.23.167.36) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [02:01] mancha, this is "hoobop" on laptop: i removed one of the mem sticks (just to check one possibility). clearly, i'm on, but i've lost the partition for my files [02:01] just thought i'd let you know [02:03] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:04] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Client Quit [02:04] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [02:09] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-170.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [02:11] peregrine|falcon (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:12] twiggz (mike@an.evilone.org) joined ##slackware. [02:13] Hello, internet people. [02:13] haha [02:13] ) hi [02:14] Well I couldn't just say "HI FRIENDS!" ..I don't know any of you. [02:14] So sure, laugh. [02:15] I am glad to see that bitch from efnets slackware channel isnt here.. [02:15] mogi [02:15] she thinks shes like...linus torvalds with a vagina. [02:16] Anyway, how are you ladies and gents doing this fine evening? [02:16] I am working on a website in wordpress and mysql....and it looks like shit... [02:17] mogi? [02:17] I do believe thats the nickname. [02:17] BTW, WordPress is probably the cause. [02:18] lol [02:18] Wordpress is neat...i have a little to learn..but i like it so far. [02:18] linux torvalds with a vagina is mancha [02:18] It damn sure beats some shitbirds php bundled crap. [02:18] Wordpress is a blog app. [02:18] Not a website builder. [02:19] No matter how much people twist it around, it sucks for content management. [02:19] "sucks" is a matter of opinion. [02:20] If you want a proper CMS, check out Silverstripe. [02:20] It was actually built with the intention of being a CMS [02:20] http://www.sindustries.org ....lots of work and lots of content to add...just starting...i am learning. [02:21] twiggz, it's redirecting me to another site [02:21] Motoko-chan, i really need to learn this stuff [02:21] I never got into web design, even though ive been using debian and slackware at home and freebsd for a dedi..ive been developing on my own desktop.. [02:22] http://silverstripe.org/ [02:22] yep [02:22] I'm in the middle of a redesign on my site. [02:22] Need to poke the designer about my mascot image. [02:22] i need to make a nice looking check out page [02:22] http://sindustries.org renders find for me, jeev [02:22] is silverstripe something i should consider ? [02:22] twiggz, it's redirecting me to www.brazzers.com (nsfw) [02:22] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:22] If you want a full CMS, yes. [02:23] It's pretty darn awesome. [02:23] sorry not meaning to spam, but it does show fine from the dedi also. [02:23] twiggz, was kidding. [02:23] I'm running 2.4 development build. [02:23] :) [02:23] them brazzers people sure seem to know what men want [02:23] http://manties.net/ <-- Probably NSFW too. Beware of mind pain. [02:24] haha, ouch [02:24] Not my site, btw. [02:24] Ugly design, that. [02:24] hmm, something good for inconcinence [02:24] My site, kinda: http://www.animeneko.net/ [02:24] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:24] Design will be revamped soonish [02:24] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:25] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:25] mandriva package? [02:25] Yes [02:25] hmm [02:26] and you're in slackware? [02:26] where can i kick you? [02:26] face or ass? [02:26] ? [02:26] why do you use mandriva [02:26] motokochan@rommie:~$ cat /etc/slackware-version [02:26] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [02:26] Because it's a good desktop? [02:26] :> [02:27] What tools or application to run windows program and pc games. [02:27] datace: They're called Windows XP [02:27] wine? [02:27] i use windows [02:27] hahahah [02:27] im not sure about wine [02:27] wine do support for openGL [02:27] i should really convert my system to slackware.. and only boot into windows for games [02:27] :) [02:27] I haven't run Windows in several months. [02:28] Motoko-chan, you're missing out. [02:28] it support D3D9 too.but not completely. [02:28] It's really only for the VMWare VX client. [02:28] I wonder you guys stick on slackware that no pc games, that cannot run windows program. [02:28] datace, there are many Linux games. [02:28] World of Goo is a good example. [02:28] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-37.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:28] you can play dos games by installing Dox-Box [02:29] :P [02:29] Action: slava_dp don't play games [02:29] * dos box [02:29] VMware? [02:29] http://www.wolfire.com/humble <-- A nice pack of games that will run on Linux. Pay a bit, support the developers. [02:29] datace, yes. [02:29] and opengl stuff runs fine in box :> [02:29] To connect to ESXi and manage it. [02:29] s/box/vbox/ [02:29] Motoko-chan, so with silverstripe, you can pretty much set up an online shop type thing ? [02:30] you can't play games inside VMware.Because graphic card driver is not powerfull. [02:30] jeev, you can do a lot with it. [02:30] nice [02:30] thanks [02:30] besides inside Linux the more optmized graphics library is only OpenGL. [02:30] make sure you had enabled the GLX extension in the xorg.conf [02:31] I'm not much of a gamer, so I don't have too many problems. [02:31] anyone still uses an xorg.conf? :) [02:31] I like to play STVEF, and there is a nice Linux port of the multi-player version. [02:31] slava_dp, I do. [02:31] i started using xorg.conf again recently [02:31] Mostly for some special settings on the pad, etc. [02:32] the pad = the touchpad? [02:32] Yes [02:32] I like hot corners, etc. [02:32] can be managed by hal rules too [02:32] Anyway, I mostly watch videos and code. [02:32] vid driver options can't though :( [02:32] true [02:32] so i use a .conf [02:32] Just got done playing an mkv encoded in h.264 on a 43in 1080p LCD. [02:32] Via HDMI [02:32] On Linux. [02:33] Like DRI ( direct rendering infastructure )? [02:33] HDMI is a connection standard for HD signals. [02:33] It can also transmit audio, including multi-channel. [02:33] Newer spec even supports ethernet. [02:33] via hdmi. [02:34] cmsouza (~chatzilla@189.121.152.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:35] Motoko-chan - do u play penumbragame? [02:35] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [02:35] No [02:35] I'm not much of a gamer [02:35] anyone play supertux? [02:35] NVDIA has a good good implementation of DRI and the NVDIA Server supports it well through the OpenGL. [02:35] no, i prefer to use debian for a desktop, freebsd for a server, and slackware for fun. [02:36] Action: alphageek needs to get some extra levels for WoG [02:36] since the time that they brrow the 3dfx [02:36] i started on slackware 8 [02:36] fun game, but I finally beat it a few weeks ago.. OCD in all but 3 levels [02:36] i got tired of going and looking for deps [02:36] and then slapt-get and swaret...they break shit more than they upgrade... [02:37] but then its been a few years [02:37] obvious troll = fail troll, btw [02:37] vldmr (100@187.64.35.132) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:37] not trying to troll. [02:37] just stating an opinion. [02:37] is that not allowed here? [02:38] I use slackpkg, even to do running upgrades. [02:38] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [02:38] Running upgrades are tricky. [02:38] sure is, have you seen anyone ban you? [02:38] twiggz, what do you use now? [02:38] they shouldnt be tricky. [02:38] vldmr (100@187.64.33.27) joined ##slackware. [02:38] Motoko-chan - if penumbra linux game will run, it means the video card is configured properly? [02:38] i am glad you're not trolling then, since if you were, you'd be failing [02:38] heh [02:38] twiggz, they can be. [02:38] Arirang: debian testing. [02:38] for a desktop [02:38] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:38] freebsd for a server [02:38] I broke a server once when building an initrd. Forgot to include LVM support. [02:38] twiggz, isn't Ubuntu more of your speed? [02:39] Nope :) [02:39] ubuntu = a debian sid snapshot with a little work+a debian sid repo with renaming = prifit for ubuntu [02:39] :P [02:39] Don't forget that the Ubuntu folks add random fail [02:40] haha [02:40] Going to go get ready for sleep now. [02:40] I didnt :) [02:41] I learned on slackware...gimme a break. I got tired of going look for libs and pkgs on my own ....slackware 8 was probably the best releases ever...even though it was bloated with every window manager and desktop known to man...it was great... [02:41] i feel good with the linuxes and the *bsds - sure a few pet peeves here and there but ultimately i can rock the fr0 on any of 'em [02:41] and sorry, slapt-get, and swaret dont cut it. [02:42] now you're just repeating though [02:42] gslapt or any of the frontends either. [02:42] what is the plan, to repeat until you get a rise out of someone? [02:42] the best one is netpkg [02:42] from zenwalk [02:42] imo [02:42] like i said, obvious troll = fail troll. you're to emu. [02:43] As I said, Im no troll. I have opinions. You don't? What makes you special? [02:43] i don't repeat them to try to get a reaction [02:44] are you that hungry for attention? [02:44] om nom nom [02:44] I apologize, I am have gone through a sixer of new belgium RANGER IPA, and a bottle of yellowtail rose. [02:44] And still working on a bottle of pinot grigio. [02:45] Whats your damn excuse for being a cunt? [02:46] This is why I stopped coming to slackware channels ..you all think you are fucking so elite...its just another distro of linux ...wow...go you guys. [02:47] twiggz (mike@an.evilone.org) left ##slackware. [02:47] and another one that doesn't quite get the topic of the channel [02:47] nothing that some therapy sessions and a few meds won't cure though.... [02:47] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [02:48] or a clue-by-eight [02:48] since a clue-by-four doesn't seem to be big enough [02:48] i wonder why he capitalized the beer name [02:48] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:48] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:49] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. 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[02:58] k [02:59] i've ntot heard any rumor about lxde being mainlined into slackware [02:59] juan--d-1-b (~Juan@201.245.234.27) joined ##slackware. [02:59] steinberg (~sb@67.23.167.36) joined ##slackware. [02:59] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Disconnected by services [03:00] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [03:00] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@201.245.234.27) left irc: Changing host [03:00] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [03:00] it should be [03:01] email him :) [03:01] iirc lxde has lots of components like xfce, and though a pain to organize all the parts it wasn't a hard compile [03:01] the panel, the terminal, etc etc [03:01] Shadowkllr (Richard@c-69-253-22-90.hsd1.de.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] Xgates: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Slackware [03:04] saw that already ;P [03:05] LinuxExpert_ (~chatzilla@112.135.11.136) joined ##slackware. [03:06] is this salix thing for real? or just a little mini project these 8 dudes play with? [03:06] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.26.26) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:06] Nick change: LinuxExpert_ -> LinuxExpert [03:06] psyber (~psyber@c-174-54-213-127.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] mancha, iirc various code from xfce is what went into LXDE, and LXDE also, in part, runs off of openbox. [03:08] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:08] makes sense then that they're similar build structures. [03:08] What syntax to install tar.gz file format? [03:09] datace, that usually is a source ball suffix [03:09] first you have to extract it tar xvf [03:09] yes xtract.. then..? [03:09] LXDE is really fast I think it's pretty nice actually [03:09] then cd to that directory [03:09] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [03:09] kie. [03:10] what file are you trying to install by the way ? most have a readme inside with the steps to install [03:10] penumbra overture for linux x86_64 [03:11] not familiar with that but once you extract it do you see a readme or install file ? [03:11] datace, usually as psyber said, there are install instructions in side the tarball [03:12] i see... i haven't finised downloading it yet. [03:12] i'll inform later.. thanks. [03:12] if it is source you'll have to compile. if it is a tarball of a pre-compiled binary you'll just have to move things into the right places [03:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:12] df [03:13] *oops* [03:13] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:14] :3 [03:15] damn, i missed an awesome troll [03:15] yep [03:16] If formating my windows partition, all the data will be erased including ext4 journaling system? [03:17] hmm ext4 is not in your windows partition is it, datace ? [03:17] yes fhobia [03:18] you probably have a windows partition and then several others for linux [03:18] How bout the lilo or mbr boot loader will be replace by windows loader? [03:18] were you the one that installed slackware onto your ntfs partition? [03:18] !? you can do that [03:19] a couple of days ago someone said they installed onto their ntfs partition [03:19] forgot who it was [03:19] so ntfs partition is other partition and ext [03:19] psyber (~psyber@c-174-54-213-127.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:19] partition is other partition? [03:20] if you have an ntfs partition AND an ext2/3/4 partition, then they are separate [03:21] formatting windows partition, will replace the slackware boot loader? 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[03:29] datace, normally, any *nix file that ends with .sh is a shell script (think batch file) - a list of commands you would normally type at the cli prompt [03:30] if you trust it, you make it executable (chmod +x .sh), otherwise you can type "/bin/sh .sh" and hope it doesn't mess your system up [03:30] wee thanks [03:31] the first line of the file will say what kind of shell script (called the shebang line) [03:31] so if the first line is "#!/bin/sh", it's standard shell, if it's "#!/bin/bash" then it's a bash shell script, if it's "#!/usr/bin/python" then it's a python script [03:32] for portability, some people use "#!/usr/bin/env " where can be sh, bash, ash, python, etc. [03:32] /usr/bin/env is a quick routine that looks for the executable [03:33] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [03:33] nvision_ (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. 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[06:28] slacky.eu seems to have one [06:28] yeah, looking at that [06:29] on github [06:30] and in pending [06:30] http://github.com/pprkut/slackbuilds-beta/tree/master/good/apache-tomcat/ [06:30] i was about to post that [06:30] :) [06:31] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-rgdueksotxbdohnp) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:31] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-yniaoaerdczdmrrj) joined ##slackware. [06:32] oh, thanks pprkut =] [06:33] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [06:33] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-yniaoaerdczdmrrj) left irc: Client Quit [06:33] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-zgrcdplntpcfddbd) joined ##slackware. [06:35] anyone use crossover ? [06:35] tried it a while ago, wasn't very impressed [06:36] how long ago? me too, few years [06:37] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [06:37] I think 1.5 years ago [06:37] Can I write java programs programs in slackware 13? [06:37] datace, yes [06:38] if you installed javasdk package [06:38] what application called for java [06:38] hmm, was considering it for Starcraft 2 [06:38] datace, that would be defined by the program [06:39] standard slackware packages typically don't use java [06:39] as far as openoffice.org and webpages, not a slackware issue [06:39] phrag: I would try with stock wine, or cedega, but I haven't used either in quite a while [06:39] I'm trying to test my java programs. If it is working. But what tool or application? [06:40] datace, follow java instructions - you use the java compiler (should be part of gcc-java package) to compile your java code [06:40] :o [06:40] :) [06:41] :() [06:41] I actually never tried that. 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[07:41] allend (~allend@CPE-121-219-229-92.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:41] soooooieeeeee [07:41] (mancha) [07:41] allend (~allend@CPE-121-219-229-92.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:41] trhodes: also, http://www.redhat.com/support/wpapers/redhat/netdump/ [07:41] slackuser23 (~4e8253d2@gateway/web/freenode/x-rmvfyemtmpkwavgk) joined ##slackware. [07:41] midday [07:42] nooooooooooooooooooo, not python! [07:42] Action: adrien hides [07:42] ahh. speaking of netdumps [07:43] i'm gonna go take one. [07:43] what do yu use adrien? [07:43] Hello, I'm still very noob on slackware, 'n' I'd like to kno how can I mount my cd/dvd drive, is this syntax right? - > mount /dev/hdc [07:44] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:44] dmesg will show you the way [07:44] slackuser: that would be correct if you had it defined in your /etc/fstab already [07:44] oh okay thanks alisonken1noc [07:45] mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/place [07:47] jrodger: ocaml and C most of the times, shell scripting too [07:49] I've only just started so I learn 'em as they com....C is next with Perl....he he he [07:51] Mmm what enables these blueish colors in the manpages of Slackware and why don't I have them when running an xterm login shell? [07:51] do /etc/profile.d scripts work for daemons too? [07:52] as long as they're scripts they should [07:52] I mean, profile.d should be processed for every login shell. daemons do not have a login shell. or do they? [07:52] aenima1577g (~aenima157@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: No route to host [07:53] afaik they won't be used [07:54] that's what i'm thinking. [07:55] but looking at pprkut's slackbuild for tomcat, it creates a profile.d script that sets variables. for whom are these variables set, just for the user? [07:55] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:55] slackuser23, new Slackwares have HAL, which should take care of mounting removable media if you added your user to the right groups, plugdev specifically. [07:55] ...jut as everyone else is getting rid of it :P [07:56] If you want to learn things the manual way, see mount(8) and fstab(5) man pages. [07:56] okay I'll try it thanks a lot rob0 [07:56] LSD`, hal is awesome and it _works_ in slackware :) [07:57] slava_dp: I'm not weighing into the issue one way or the other, just making an observation :P [07:57] well, yes. [07:58] the forefront distros like inventing wheels of different sort all the time. [07:59] square, hexagox wheels... nice ones.... [07:59] i was just looking at isapnptools. does anyone use that? [07:59] yeah, netconsole is working \o/ [07:59] (its 32bit only) [07:59] not in over a decade. I had to use it wat back when I had a PnP ISA SWE64 but I got rid of that ages ago. [08:00] Howdy! [08:00] hey Alan_Hicks =) [08:00] slava_dp: I think it's more X.org pushing for hte removal of HAL, not sure on that tho [08:00] What's up? [08:01] sahk0: *isa* it's really old [08:01] before pci ports [08:01] hal for x.org doesn't make any sense [08:01] was already pretty uncommon in 32bit computers, you won't find anything like that in 64bit ones [08:02] 32-bit computers haven't included ISA ports in nearly 10 years. [08:02] we had a trainee for IT in our business who didn't even know how to spell ISA [08:02] adrien: wikipedia says it was superseeded by pci in 1993 [08:02] It's definitely gone in 64-bit computers for the most part (though I have seen at least one 775 board with it meant for industrial applications), but lots of 32 bit coputers have it when you comsider "32 bit" includes everything from the 386 up. ISA only started disappearing well into the Pentium 3 era [08:02] wow - I didn't think it was THAT long ago [08:03] sahk0: yeah, it's really really old [08:03] sahk0: it hung on on mobos until arounf 1997-1998, whenever Intel introduced the i810 chipset [08:03] mca is even older :) [08:03] alisonken1noc: I didn't either, I guess they left cards/ports for several years after that [08:03] you're not *that* old ;-) [08:03] LSD`: You could still buy brand-new mobos in 2002 with ISA. [08:03] jhw: we have a manager that cannot spell IT! [08:03] adrien, you may be surprised :) [08:03] you mean, two letters? [08:03] bbl lunch is ready [08:04] Funny thing tho: ISA still lives on; motherboards still have serial and parallel which are ISA bus. Only the ISA addon cards have died. [08:04] Some manufacturers included one ISA port in the same slot as a PCI port, simply for some people who had hardware ISA modems. [08:04] rob0: Right. [08:04] yup, 2 letters [08:04] rob0: was just about to mention that when Alan_Hicks interrupted my thought process :P [08:04] alisonken1noc: I was only trying to make you feel younger, I know you already have wrinkles, troubles running, having ***... -_- [08:04] badabing! :) [08:04] jrodger: nice one ;-) [08:05] I'm serious! [08:05] adrien, at least the wife doesn't have to buy depends yet [08:05] heheh :P [08:05] Alan_Hicks: The i810 and later Intel chipsets had no internal facility for providing ISA slots, boards that used those chipsets and provided ISA slots used seperate bridge chips for it. VIA, SiS, ALi and whoever else was left making cheap and nasty chipsets may have retained it in their designs, I really can't remember [08:06] I jealously guard some old computers with EISA slots that accept some proprietary interface cards. [08:06] gimme your mac, you... wait... I'm ssh'ed into the machine I need the mac address of and I was using ping + arp to find its address... [08:07] 'gimme your mac' sounded weird ;) [08:07] wait, it uses grsec... [08:07] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:07] Alan_Hicks: As I mentioned earlier, you can actually still buy mobos with ISA if you really need it: http://www.mgram.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=5148 [08:08] Morning. [08:08] LSD`: wow [08:08] LSD`, the price bites [08:08] thats an old board too [08:09] straterra: it's an 865 chipset iirc [08:09] an old one still [08:09] decently old [08:09] slava_dp: Of course it bites. If you have to have an ISA mobo in 2010 to connect a controller card up to your HVAC system, you pay it regardless of the price. [08:09] before the core line shipped, right when pentium d was introduced [08:10] Those prices are in AUD$ too, btw. SO they're going to look pricer than you 'Murcans are ued to [08:10] the board price is peanuts compared with the eqipment on the other side [08:10] allend: Exactly. [08:10] btw, I can sell some too in case someone wants to pay 1000 euros =) [08:10] Action: slava_dp googles hvac system [08:10] slava_dp: heating, ventilation air conditioning [08:11] Heat, Ventilation, Air-Conditioning [08:11] ihgreiohdgher ! [08:11] ok :) [08:13] Alan_Hicks: poke [08:13] blah [08:13] I won't be able to use netconsole I guess ='( [08:13] Action: slava_dp waits for a v3 question :) [08:14] my v3 questions have all been reduced to "poke" [08:14] theres no point wasting charactners... he knows what i mean :D [08:14] sure he does :) [08:15] Action: Zordrak pokes Alan_Hicks three or four more times just to be sure :) [08:16] forget ISA, try getting an oem server with 5+ pci-x slots these days [08:18] slackuser23 (~4e8253d2@gateway/web/freenode/x-rmvfyemtmpkwavgk) left irc: Quit: Page closed [08:19] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ggeoamvntayigady) joined ##slackware. [08:19] jrodger (~jrodger@203-213-6-89.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:23] Zordrak: I ain't forgotten. :-) [08:27] i should crona poke script ;) [08:27] *cron a [08:29] echo poking Alan | at teatime [08:30] :) [08:32] jhw (~jhw@194.64.6.1) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:32] hmmm [08:32] netconsole is pretty awesome [08:32] I triggered a kernel panic on one computer and got the full backtrace on another one =) [08:33] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [08:35] pupit (~p@109.93.234.111) joined ##slackware. [08:35] pupit (~p@109.93.234.111) left irc: Changing host [08:35] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [08:36] wow, maybe that latest git kernel solves my problem! \o/ [08:40] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:40] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:49] what are some good C# programming channels on freenode? [08:49] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [08:50] c# ? [08:50] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) joined ##slackware. [08:50] lol [08:50] lol [08:50] naaah.. . surely c# questions should be in #java(!) [08:50] i guess that'sa start [08:52] sIRC (~sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:52] well i tried ##c# [08:52] or #c# ? [08:53] sIRC (~sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [08:53] yeah i know [08:53] ##csharp probably. [08:54] Which does exist. actually [08:54] ##mono [08:55] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:55] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:59] must be invite to #c# ? [09:02] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:02] ah #c# points to #csharp [09:07] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [09:08] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:11] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [09:13] nvision (~nvision@g224248216.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:15] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@99.33.233.94) joined ##slackware. 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[09:42] Action: adrien is playing with netconsole [09:43] rpm2tgz actually works. [09:44] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [09:44] i'm trying winff, an ffmpeg frontend. if it's good, i'll make a slackbuild for it [09:45] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [09:45] ah, that's why the free pascal Q.... [09:46] winff is written in pascal? [09:46] aparently fpc/lazarus [09:46] so you're going with rpm2tgz on a pre-compiled rpm? [09:46] yeah.... someone still writes in pascal :) [09:47] I just made a package with rpm2tgz and it works. huge number of presets, I should say. should be girlfriend-proof. [09:47] yeah ! [09:48] now, the kernel messages are sent to a friend's remote machine [09:48] s/machine/server/ [09:48] so I should get backtraces more easily and remotely =) [09:48] I mean, oopses and kernel panics backtraces =) [09:49] slava, be careful, presets change with each ffmpeg(libavcodec) version [09:49] so i am not sure how your frontend deals with this... [09:50] I'll be testing it at home, she has a nokia that plays mp4 and another player that only does wmv, I'll see how it goes. [09:50] artmob (~arv6@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] does anyone maybe have an updated libsigc++2.0 version 2.2.7 ? [09:51] s/have/been using [09:53] slava_dp i presume the frontend has something you can vary depending on ffmpeg version, just be sure you're mindful of it [09:53] artmob (~arv6@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:53] adrien: do you like horror flicks? [09:53] not a big fan but I sometimes watch some [09:54] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [09:54] adrien: ah. I was gonna ask you the name of this; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0856288/ though ended up finding it. [09:55] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:55] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [09:58] mancha, winff bundles it's own ffmpeg. [09:58] ack! [09:59] wario: you mean you saw it on the cover? :P [10:00] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [10:00] slava, why in the f*ck would it do that? [10:00] adrien: no some guy was talking about the movie in a video, though was covering the name of it up so i was gona ask you what the name was. [10:00] though i found it later [10:01] mancha, I dunno. and it has some other libs too. perhaps the author wanted a static solution. [10:01] okay, I see ;-) [10:01] damn, is there no good video converter for linux? there are over 9000 of them for the offtopic os! [10:02] ffmpeg? /o\ [10:03] you mean for haiku? /o\ [10:05] Nick change: wario -> nemesysadm [10:05] you know what I mean... I want presets, pick one of them and click Convert.... [10:05] makes no sense for it to prepackage ffmpeg also the rpm looks to be around 1.4MB and ffmpeg is at least 3MB compressed... [10:05] Nick change: nemesysadm -> wario [10:06] mancha, oops [10:07] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] mancha, my fail. I was looking at another package and it has ffmpeg inside... got confused: http://www.slacky.eu/aadm/pkgs/index.php?ver=13&pkgname=transcoder&pkgver=0.0.3 [10:08] transcoder shouldn't package ffmpeg inside either! don't use that package [10:09] yeah, it's a bad one [10:10] these are times when I regret that I'm on slackware... when I need to build/install ffmpeg and a bunch of friends :-) [10:11] but well... I'll see winff later... gotta go now. work day is over. [10:12] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:16] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:17] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [10:19] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:19] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [10:20] hi all [10:20] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:52] yeah ! \o/ [10:52] depends on your criteroa ^^ [10:52] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:52] criteroa? rm -f * [10:53] why don't you just rm -fr directory ? [10:53] if you're sure you want to get rid of it all [10:53] it stalls [10:54] tried it [10:54] cd /path/to/dir/with/files; find . -delete [10:54] it stalls? doesn't sound like an issue with rm to me [10:55] anyone know the state of C1E support under linux with AMD CPUs? [10:55] or maybe safer: find /path/to/dir/with/files -delete [10:55] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [10:55] criteria* [10:55] cmsouza (~chatzilla@c9067bea.static.spo.virtua.com.br) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:57] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:58] cmsouza (~chatzilla@c9067bea.static.spo.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:59] trying : find . | xargs rm -f ./{} [10:59] um, why? [10:59] can anyone help my understand this kernel panic trace: http://vpaste.net/3rxKB [10:59] you like unneeded pipes? [10:59] what could be the problem? seems to be triggered by network load but it doesn't appear her [10:59] e [10:59] Pipes are for smoking. :D [11:00] also, I have C1E enabled in the bios and I think there can be a problem/incompat with that [11:00] lee_: find . -type f -exec rm {} \; [11:00] linux bongs > linux pipes [11:00] make sure you are in the proper directory tho :P [11:00] but I don't understand this trace, it looks unrelated to network (and it definitely is triggered by activity on the NIC) [11:00] if not, I'm posting to lkml soon [11:01] lee_: is this directory on your local disk? [11:01] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:02] no [11:02] a remote server [11:02] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [11:02] fluxbox is bad-ass on dual monitors. [11:02] Just had to get that off my chest. :^) [11:03] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-234-169.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] hihi [11:03] Action: adrien throws an openbox at Alan_Hicks [11:03] Alan_Hicks, what? get a monitor off your chest? sure, i'll /msg you my mailing address :P [11:03] i need perl asst :) [11:04] Delahunt: Sure thing. Shipping might be problematic, but I can send you two of these. http://tinyurl.com/33qep54 [11:05] i want to fix man/ soft dead link files so that they are real `.so name.sect' files. [11:05] Action: Delahunt wonders if he should open that link [11:05] Action: Delahunt dons internet-condom [11:05] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-195-189.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:05] Delahunt condoms dont work [11:05] lol [11:05] they leak [11:06] maybe yours do [11:06] all do [11:06] :P [11:06] heh [11:06] sure you don't want an environmental suit rather than just a plain internet condom? :) [11:06] lol [11:06] chroot works [11:06] Action: Delahunt will take a space suit instead [11:06] use elinks [11:06] preview.tinyurl.com [11:07] link is SFW, I promise. [11:07] view-at-a-distance.tinyurl.com [11:07] Action: Delahunt already viewed it :P [11:08] oh, a shell script would be fine too if suggested [11:10] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [11:10] hello friends [11:10] Nick change: L3t4M3 -> L3sb0d1st4rxion [11:10] is there a way to erase udp support from my station ? [11:10] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: shonudo [11:10] lee_: so it's NFS or something? that could be an issue with the "stalling" [11:10] kernel recompile? :P [11:10] but better filter it [11:11] and why do you want to do that? [11:11] Genk1: iptables -A INPUT -m udp -p udp -j DROP [11:11] anyone? [11:11] same for OUTPUT and FORWARD [11:11] you really cant be dropping udp packets like that [11:11] I think I solved/worked-around the kernel panic on my computer =) [11:12] Zordrak, ok thank you [11:13] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:13] Genk1: http://rg03.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/iptables-rules-for-desktop-computers/ [11:14] gnubien, thank you anyway ? [11:14] !* [11:14] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [11:15] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:15] ok [11:15] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-234-169.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. 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[11:33] L3sb0d1st4rxion (~alpha@93-45-132-101.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:38] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [11:40] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:41] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:55d:301b:9e66:f644:9ce0) joined ##slackware. [11:47] wertik (~wertik@95-27-224-124.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:52] what should i do if i want to install x11 via the internet [11:52] Kaapa (~Something@bl11-144-107.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:52] slackpkg install x/ just complains that no packages match the pattern for install [11:53] slackpkg install x [11:54] hmm, i try [11:58] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [12:00] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:05] why is slackpkg written in shell script [12:05] ilaiho: why not? [12:05] slow [12:06] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] o__O [12:07] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:07] ilaiho: and what is your better proposition? [12:07] c [12:07] bwwahahahhhaha [12:08] anyone gonna wwatch iron man 2 ? [12:08] compare the number of lines needed for slackpkg and what it'd take in C [12:08] C's speed is mostly useless here anyway [12:08] what takes the most time is xz/gzip [12:08] jeev: already saw it [12:08] hmm [12:09] really, how was it [12:11] http://i.imgur.com/kPm4k.jpg hahaha [12:14] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:15] looks fake however ;-) [12:15] and Iron Man 2 was pretty nice [12:15] of course, don't expect romance [12:16] ilaiho: slackpkg is nearly instantly portable to any other arch without any modification, provided that it has gz/xz and coreutils. [12:16] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [12:17] ilaiho: actually, coreutils aren't even needed, busybox could be used in their place. [12:17] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:20] cool adrien [12:20] no romance = good movie [12:20] leave the romance between every guy and thrice's mom for later [12:22] you love a good romance jeev. what did you recommend to me recently, when harry met sally or something?? [12:23] It was "You got Mail" [12:24] That's jeev's favorite movie, obviously. He hides behind this 'i'm a tough guy on irc' front, but we all know the truth [12:24] jeev is an inside job. [12:24] lol [12:24] everyone was an inside job [12:24] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:24] thrice just slipped in from the belly button [12:24] hahahah [12:24] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] StarX (~StarX@201.87.127.7) joined ##slackware. [12:25] comem on thrice, you can laugh.. you know it's true [12:25] StarX (~StarX@201.87.127.7) left irc: Changing host [12:25] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:26] oooh, ok [12:26] ilaiho: you have another alternative, slapkg, thats written in python [12:27] although, currently its only a replacement for installpkg/removepkg [12:28] you cannot sync to a package repository as you would with slackpkg [12:29] so what are the advantages? [12:29] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [12:30] i havent run any benchmarks myself, but it feels faster :) [12:30] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4253, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-04-17 17:17:37 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [12:30] there is a performancetest on the slapkg's website http://code.google.com/p/slapkg/wiki/PerformanceTests [12:30] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:58] Well, I think it's just about time that I updated to latest 64-current and kde-4.4.3 [12:59] usuariok (~usuario@83.55.164.191) joined ##slackware. [13:00] holaç [13:00] eviljames: you running encrypted lvm partitions ? [13:00] ok [13:01] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("We were always meant to say goodbye..."). [13:01] xsamurai: Nah, for this machine it would be pointless overhead. [13:01] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:01] k , some user mentioned the other day that the rc scripts had the wrong path for cryptsetup in current [13:01] usuariok (usuario@83.55.164.191) left ##slackware. [13:02] im not on a slack box right now to check but I did verify it that day, I dont know if he emailed pat [13:03] aside from that current has no known issues =) [13:04] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:12] There's a sparc port mentioned on the slackware website, but no information about it. Was there one once, or did the evolve into splack? [13:13] s/the/that/ [13:13] (The link to the sparc port should be removed.) [13:13] Pretyy sure Splack was it. [13:13] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:13] Or point to splack [13:14] I have Workstation 10 I'd like to move from OpenBSD to Linux. Any experience here with splack? [13:20] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:55d:8588:269e:1fd:2256) joined ##slackware. [13:22] cmsouza (chatzilla@c9067bea.static.spo.virtua.com.br) left ##slackware. [13:22] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:22] adrenaline (~repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:24] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. 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[13:57] i see dead people [13:57] i see dumb people [13:57] welcome to ##slackware - where the problems don't crop up [13:57] ... and they don't know that they are dumb [13:59] alisonken1home: how can I make slackware run on a toaster ? [14:00] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:01] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [14:01] xsamurai, lots of work, but doable :) [14:01] nvision (~nvision@g226060071.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:04] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:05] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [14:07] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:12] Does anybody know now to get the arrow keys to work on NXclient in slackware by chance? [14:13] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:13] adrenaline: Keep making random changes and you might get it to "work by chance". (sorry, sorta) [14:14] Have you had the same issue? [14:14] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [14:14] No, I haven't actually been able to use slack in a few years. [14:15] FriedBob: Hypocrit! [14:16] Alan_Hicks: Maybe.. if I claimed to be using it all the time that I used to. Besides, Slack will more than likely go on my next box [14:16] It'd better, or I'll kick you out of this channel! [14:16] Action: Alan_Hicks raises fist angrily. [14:17] haha... [14:17] Alan_Hicks: You going to do the same to everyone else in here who doesn't use Slack? [14:17] I'll do it to everyone else who hasn't used slackware "in a few years". [14:18] Alan_Hicks: Well, regardless of that, Slackware is the only Linux I will run. [14:18] Just don't do it sober, or we'll all be gone. [14:19] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:20] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:23] FriedBob: are you a member of the church of the subgenious? [14:23] I'm a member of tautology club. [14:23] The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club! [14:24] eviljames: I'm a member of that club as well. Have you joined our FB group? [14:24] sahk0: No. [14:24] There's a tautology club on facebook? ohgodwhy [14:24] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:24] eviljames: Because I am a fan of XKCD, and made such a thing. :D [14:25] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:25] not reading up ... what did you make, FriedBob ? [14:25] FriedBob: im just trying to figure out why your jokes dont make any sense to me. thought that was it [14:25] :p [14:25] sahk0: I thought about joining a few times though [14:25] facebook hurts my balls [14:25] no no. MY jokes dont make sense, sahk0. i refuse to let FriedBob have all the fame! [14:26] xsamurai: YDIW [14:27] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.226.226) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:28] your death i win? hm. [14:28] YDIW = yoda drinks indian weenies ? [14:28] im not in tune with all the hip terms these days [14:29] same here. no hair on head will do that to you [14:29] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:30] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:30] Action: xsamurai looks for a camera [14:30] are you watching me ? [14:30] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. 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[15:14] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:14] angelgen (~angelgen@190.42.80.202) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:14] angelgen_ (angelgen@190.42.71.83) left ##slackware. [15:16] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [15:17] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:18] alienbob updated his freenx slackbuild? [15:18] Some time ago [15:18] nvision (~nvision@g226060071.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:18] I am using that on Slackware 13.0 and -current [15:18] hey :) [15:18] Ho [15:19] alienBOB, i got xdg-open to work btw [15:19] I still do not get why it did not work in the first place [15:19] Or was it a XFCE only issue? [15:19] was using an old cvs version [15:19] oh, it wasn't working for you on xfce either? [15:19] So, a newer checkout fixed it for you? [15:20] i don't use any desktop environment [15:20] yup. [15:20] echelon: can't remember how it worked on XFCE... [15:20] pat included the shell script for the cvs in the source dir [15:21] Yeah [15:21] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] xdg-open ignored the defaults set for the mime types [15:22] i think it relied on the DE's helper tools [15:22] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:23] kde-open, gnome-open, etc [15:24] ah, here we go.. it didn't have open_generic_xdg_mime() before [15:30] <_slax0r_> err...if I open 2 files with vim, how do I switch between them? [15:30] C-W up/down arrow [15:30] or left/right [15:31] and I think just C-w C-w will swap (don't recall) [15:32] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.23.208.175) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:32] yeah [15:33] <_slax0r_> thanks [15:33] no problem [15:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:34] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.23.208.175) joined ##slackware. [15:34] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.50.158) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:37] <_slax0r_> I just realized my screen is too small :S [15:37] They make pills for that. [15:37] Oh you said _screen_.... [15:38] <_slax0r_> I'm happy with my manhood, and so is my gf, thank you very much :P [15:38] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.50.158) joined ##slackware. [15:38] <_slax0r_> I'll think twice before writing something again :X [15:38] Sure she isn't just being polite/ [15:38] <_slax0r_> why should I care? as long as I enjoy it... [15:39] lol,true. [15:39] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.50.158) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:40] 'isn't she faking?' 'does it matter?' [15:42] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.50.158) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Sounds like offtopic material [15:46] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:46] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Well, I do not see much _on_ topic at the moment [15:46] *cough* [15:47] So? I've gotten bitched at for the same in the same circumstance before.. [15:47] I have too, but typically only when there is on-topic stuff happening. [15:48] In that circumstance if I'm around I'd try to corral people to ##slackware-offtopic [15:48] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [15:49] straterra: and, fwiw, this material is far too tame for offtopic. [15:49] It's sexual in nature, isn't it? [15:49] i demand proof [15:49] bah, and the constitutional/copywrite stuff isn't? [15:50] raela: offtopic only deals with the extremes and the importants. [15:50] also flamewars. [15:50] eviljames: ohhh in that sense.. okay! [15:50] also azeotropics [15:50] haha [15:56] how can i create a virtual serial port? [16:03] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:03] good imagination? [16:05] Jeann (~Holocaust@189.31.8.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:06] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:09] LinuxExpert (~chatzilla@112.135.15.1) joined ##slackware. [16:10] is irssi is more secure than mozilla chatzilla? [16:12] Action: LinuxExpert moving to irssi - reason :- the channel title. [16:12] It is different [16:12] Secure is what you make of it. You can more easily shield an irssi session inside an ssh tunnel I guess [16:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:13] LinuxExpert: We do NOT care if you are away. [16:13] Not in the least [16:14] through irssi configuration. Let me have some time to dig into that and be back. Right! [16:14] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.23.208.175) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:17] dive: pong [16:20] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.124.229.10) joined ##slackware. [16:21] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [16:22] alphad64 (~alphad@rs.aviso.ci) joined ##slackware. [16:24] adrien, hi man [16:24] adrien, logged into nabucho earlier [16:24] no ~ [16:25] dive: yeah [16:25] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:26] dive: I've been debugging a kernel panic and right now I'm running a check [16:26] oh right ok [16:26] I umounted everything and turned the raid arrays off too [16:26] seems fairly stable now so I'll stop the test and reenable everything when I go to bed (pretty soon) [16:26] I'll try again later then - just need to check out some slackbuilds [16:27] I guess the vm will have stopped? [16:28] everything is stopped, it's not in runlevel 1 because I need the network [16:28] ok [16:28] but everything should be back up in less than an our [16:28] hour* [16:28] great, thanks [16:30] I'm currently "flooding" nabucho with packets on the NIC and it used to exhibit the problem after a few minutes or a few millions of packets, the current test has been running for almost 4 hours and probably sent about 300 million packets [16:30] and I'll say it again: netconsole is awesome ^^ [16:35] I take that back, I actually sent 2 billion packets =) [16:36] any discount? [16:36] yup, 15% off if you subscribe before midnight today [16:37] and an example of netconsole's output: http://vpaste.net/3rxKB , it basically sent me everything a regular kernel panic sends on screen :-) [16:37] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:37] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:38] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:39] mass_nerder_ (~c657631d@gateway/web/freenode/x-zxvaxcvasbtwddnp) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:41] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: Quit: gone [16:45] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-100.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:45] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:46] sinuhe: Most of us with interests in sparc are over in #splack [16:46] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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[17:18] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:20] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:55d:875:417f:ee95:144) joined ##slackware. [17:20] what's the command to change the keyboard mapping? [17:21] setxkbmap in X [17:21] loadkeys otherwise [17:21] i was drawing a complete blank [17:21] lol [17:21] :-) [17:24] blonde moment [17:24] my coworker is having some strange input error with screen, but damn... it didn't fix it :( [17:24] which is? [17:24] thought setxkbmap -keymap 1 would work [17:24] Ctrl-Q or Ctrl-S if it's not accepting input anymore. [17:25] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@99.33.233.94) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:25] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [17:25] One of them will work. [17:25] he's using alt+1, alt+2, etc., and the terminal is printing a A with the little tilde over it, instead of actually switching windows in pidgin [17:26] Necos: which keyboard map? [17:26] it's supposed to be using the normal us keymap [17:26] alt+1, alt+2 print the same thing? [17:26] yeah [17:27] he can use ctrl + tab to change windows as well [17:28] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:28] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [17:28] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Changing host [17:28] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [17:29] Action: malikcpp is away: Coming back soon ;-) [17:29] errr, i said pidgin, whne i should have said finch [17:30] and this is through x ? [17:30] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.53.175) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:30] he must be poor cant afford gui'ness [17:30] check his wm key mappings maybe something is off [17:30] well, we're both ssh'd into my box at home running finch lol [17:31] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:31] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.53.175) joined ##slackware. [17:31] xsamurai: I'm using irssi in screen on my server located in Dallas while working in Missouri. I don't miss anything ever this way. That's not poor, that's awesome. [17:32] you some borke niggahs [17:32] >.> [17:32] what's the fluxbox wm config file? [17:32] .fluxbox/keys [17:32] =P [17:33] heh, i never used flux, so :P [17:33] hmmmm, mod1 + 1,2,3,etc. is not defined [17:33] thats cuz its only for supero dupero cool ppl [17:35] for temporary fix change the finch key bindings [17:36] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [17:37] im assuming this isnt a slackware box thats having an issue ? [17:38] jkwood: I'll be back in MO soon. [17:38] MO = Mother's Ovaries? You're going to suffer the horror of unbirth? [17:38] xsamurai: Slackware boxes never have issues. Just their owners do now and then. [17:39] eviljames: One man's horror is another man's kink. [17:39] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.124.229.10) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:39] eviljames: MissOuri. It's that sort-of-squiggly state smack dab in the middle. [17:39] FriedBob: call it women intuition , i feel its a debian box thats having issues [17:39] j0z (~j0z@201.22.28.210.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:39] adobe is finally letting you control the behavior of "flash cookies". don't they get it? flash is dying. [17:40] ...no futurama fans around, I guess... [17:40] xsamurai: Other diestros do have issues, for sure. But Slack never does. Any perceived issues are user error. [17:40] mancha: yep , its dead [17:40] flash is fu*** [17:40] I'm going to wait for netcraft to confirm it before I believe flash is dead. [17:41] and while i'm ranting. wtf is up with google's new search UI? if i wanted bing, i'd use bing. innit? [17:41] it'll be awhile before porno sites start switching over, i think if youtube does it then its pretty much settled [17:41] can html5 do everything what flash can do? [17:42] oscillator: the * means zero or more characters .In this case you should use fu??? the correct regex expression,However we are a family channel so recommand not to use them. [17:42] dustybin: all that and a bag chips [17:42] heh [17:42] of [17:42] if youtube switches the rest will follow. i agree. [17:42] LinuxExpert: you are in the right, sorry [17:42] skynet, errr google strikes again [17:43] hmmm, backtrack is retarded :) [17:43] <_slax0r_> what new google UI? [17:44] the left hand bar after the search [17:45] <_slax0r_> oh yeah...that crap [17:45] apparently, if you use fluxbox in backtrack, the keyboard mapping is screwy [17:45] seeee i knew he wasnt using slackware [17:46] Necos you have broken article #25321A , 'thou shalt not speak of other distro problems' [17:46] <_slax0r_> psychic [17:46] i knelol [17:46] *i knew lol [17:46] where's fire|bird when you need him to shank somebody [17:46] 50 thrashings [17:46] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [17:46] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird back and laughs [17:46] <_slax0r_> well that backfired [17:46] mancha: ++ so true (about new GOOG) [17:46] <_slax0r_> :P [17:46] xsamurai, ask and ye shall receive. ;) [17:46] i used womens intuition without having breast or ovaries [17:46] fire|bird: thanks that felt good [17:47] lol [17:47] dustybin: html5 + the canvas element + a liberal dose of javascript + the video tag = better than flash. [17:49] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:49] cya [17:49] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: rah [17:49] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: go go go Canada! [17:49] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] mundaneforce9 (~z@c-67-172-190-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] hi hi hi [17:51] my gut reaction was to reply with an unbearable pop song. [17:51] dooo it dooooo it [17:51] to my entry? [17:52] did I make a pop reference? [17:52] no, but I almost wrote "bye bye bye" [17:52] or am i out of context [17:52] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-xfvoxcmmqtynxwkw) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:52] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:52] Action: fire|bird slaps eviljames [17:52] brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Quit: pew-pew[friggin lasers, mounted on Shark] [17:53] Action: eviljames takes the slap, hangs his head and shame. [17:53] <_slax0r_> lol [17:53] Action: eviljames performs harakiri [17:54] woohoo! [17:54] wait for me [17:54] in anycase. i am trying to use X -version to find out what my X11Rx is for x.... but it does not give me this. what is the X11R??? for slack 13? [17:54] we're rid of him! [17:54] Action: xsamurai chops eviljames head off right after [17:54] ahhhh finally get to use my sword [17:54] that's far too honorable for ej [17:54] Action: fire|bird stops the rolling head just before it reaches the river bank. [17:55] Action: xsamurai watches maple syrup shoot out [17:55] hahaha , bad canadian joke [17:55] i guess. [17:55] Action: fire|bird takes away xsamurai's sword for making that joke. [17:55] lol [17:55] cause no one loled [17:57] maybe if should have prefaced my question with 17/f/right down the block [17:57] do you mean to use: Xorg -version [17:57] lemme see [17:58] nope [17:58] same as X -version [17:58] paste the output [17:58] X.Org X Server 1.6.3 [17:58] Release Date: 2009-7-31 [17:58] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [17:58] Channel flood from mundaneforce9 -- kicking [17:58] Build Operating System: Slackware 13.0 Slackware Linux Project [17:58] Current Operating System: Linux chortle 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:52:54 CDT 2009 i686 [17:58] Build Date: 03 August 2009 06:51:50PM [17:58] [17:58] in pastebin [17:58] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org [17:58] mundaneforce9 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:59] mundaneforce9 (~z@c-67-172-190-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] xsamurai, "in pastebin" <---too late. :P [17:59] i am going to invent a website where people can paste long scroll to not annoy users on irc channels one of these days... [17:59] ack [17:59] ...fail [17:59] sorry [17:59] not irc much [17:59] <_slax0r_> lol :D [17:59] points mancha to web 3.0 [18:00] so what is this paste bin? [18:00] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432274.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:00] <_slax0r_> mancha: pastebin much? o.O [18:00] <_slax0r_> mundaneforce9: a web site where you can paste your outputs [18:00] o [18:00] <_slax0r_> and just write the link here [18:00] ok [18:00] mundaneforce9, pastebin.slackadelic.com, pastebin.com, to name a few. [18:00] _slax0r_ holy crap. someone already invented it? [18:00] brb [18:00] <_slax0r_> mancha: those bastards! [18:01] well, s/few/couple/ [18:01] <_slax0r_> and I wanted to add code coloring [18:01] farkin' there goes another idea where i'm late to the party [18:01] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:01] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.3.28.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:01] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:01] lol was typing slackaholic!! [18:01] hehehehe [18:02] www.slackaholic.com is a bin wih a 12-step paste program [18:02] lol [18:02] <_slax0r_> mancha: maybe it would be better to develop a device or a way to slap someone over irc for occasions like the one before [18:02] poor slackaholics everywhere :P [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:03] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [18:03] URL: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/b2dGoM71.html [18:04] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Nick change: LinuxExpert -> SmartOne [18:04] just trying to find the number that would be after "R" in for example X11Rx [18:05] for slack 13 [18:05] mundaneforce9: why does it matter? [18:05] trying to download X source to compile but want the same version i am currently using [18:06] unless it does not matter..... the background is a very long story [18:06] the X source is modular nowadays [18:06] why? lol [18:06] cause i am anal [18:06] maybe it does not matter. [18:07] trying to compile djbpm, requires qt libs and crap, which require X libs and include. qt can't find them... was gonna make them [18:07] Be prepared for shock [18:07] wtf? [18:08] New updated being pushed out [18:08] maybe my drunkedness is interfering with my problem solving skills [18:08] mundaneforce9, are you insane? all that stuff is available in slackware packages [18:08] o [18:08] h [18:08] i might be insane [18:08] alienBOB: you mean update in current? [18:08] Yep [18:08] qt is available? [18:08] mundaneforce9, yes, it is part of slackware. [18:08] mundaneforce9: for years now [18:08] kde 4.4 alienBOB? [18:08] ok i wont go to bed early tonight then [18:09] Necos ;-) [18:09] .... kde is based on qt huh? [18:09] yep [18:09] don't know why i just realized that [18:09] that's why i came here [18:09] lol [18:09] awesome alienBOB [18:09] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:09] do i need to update to the latest -current to get all the new goodies? [18:10] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [18:10] Hi. [18:10] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:10] And... "And with that, we're calling this Slackware 13.1 BETA1" [18:10] o.o [18:10] dint install the kde packages.... guess i should look through them for qt stuffs [18:10] awesome! [18:10] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:10] no mundaneforce9, qt is a seperate package [18:10] alienBOB: you bastard! I _JUST_ finished putting the latest current bits + your kde 4.4.3 on and now there's another update?! [18:10] why cant we have names like "slutty slack" [18:10] hope its not kde 4.4 [18:11] oh yeah and why is that cat thing wearing a beak these days? [18:11] or sloppy slacky [18:11] eviljames: it's basically my KDE 4.4.3 but recompiled by Pat [18:11] oh noes [18:11] yay :) [18:11] hehe [18:11] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.66.133.64) joined ##slackware. [18:11] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.66.133.64) left irc: Excess Flood [18:11] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.66.133.64) joined ##slackware. [18:11] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.66.133.64) left irc: Excess Flood [18:11] alienBOB: ..does this mean consolekit is coming to slack officially? [18:11] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.66.133.64) joined ##slackware. [18:11] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [18:11] that means *kit and policykit patched with no reviewed from upstream source. [18:12] im gonna send a letter of complaint [18:12] Action: eviljames redirects the letter to /dev/null [18:12] Tsk tsk [18:12] lol [18:12] :p [18:12] Bad bad slackware [18:12] eviljames: yes [18:12] oh noes [18:12] But still no PAM [18:12] Indeed [18:13] that probably means long testing rc period [18:13] That's it! I'm starting my own distro! With blackjack! And Hookers! [18:13] In fact, forget the distro! [18:13] and the blackjack! [18:13] *kit would have to, since Xorg has replaced HAL, et al. As for PAM, the questions is whether it is realy needed. [18:13] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] so you are starting hookers? [18:13] eviljames: sign me up [18:13] s/eal/eall/ [18:13] hookers++ [18:13] think someone beeat you to it [18:13] mundaneforce9: Didn't take me long to get my first few users! [18:14] i bet [18:14] pimpin' ain't easy [18:14] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:14] lol [18:14] ahhhhh! [18:14] scream not sigh [18:15] slackpkg update; slackpkg check-updates; "No news is good news" <--- wtf? [18:15] eviljames: Hell you've already got customers and haven't hired any hookers. I'd say pimpin's pretty damn easy. [18:15] hah [18:15] Alan_Hicks: 2nd oldest profession in the world! [18:15] what is the first? [18:15] the first is religion? >.> [18:15] uh. hookin' [18:15] the first i think was a religion based on hookin [18:15] mundaneforce9: politics. incidently, it's very closely related to the second. [18:15] oh yeah [18:15] haha [18:16] the firs is a money ;) [18:16] Necos: the updates will not have hit the mirrors yet [18:16] yeah [18:16] actually its historians. otherwise we wouldnt know what 1st,2nd and 3rd prof. were [18:16] guess i'll wait til tomorrow for the mirror updates [18:16] Hell, I'm not even fully synced up yet :) [18:16] haha [18:16] robbie, hurry up damn it :P [18:16] sahk0: Historians arose as the 3rd profession to chronicle their exploits with the politicians and hookers. [18:17] lol [18:17] Alan_Hicks, we wouldn't have it any other way :P [18:17] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [18:17] The fourth profession is more difficult to ascertain however. [18:18] definitely something related to IT :P [18:18] or shooting folks (police, etc..) [18:18] Alan_Hicks: religious leadership? [18:18] Necos: More likely it was the midwife. [18:18] Alan_Hicks: aka charlitains [18:18] Alan_Hicks: you're a midwife? [18:18] sinuhe: No, religious belief didn't start until sometime later. [18:18] Dominian: I'm having a midwife crisis. [18:19] damn! [18:19] I.e. I'm in the middle of some one's wife when he gets home. [18:19] hah [18:19] hahahaha [18:19] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [18:19] haha [18:19] wouldn't that make you a sex toy? [18:20] Necos, I don't think he cares. ;) [18:20] Action: sinuhe notes the drifting off-track from the topic [18:20] Necos: Indeed it does, which others have argued is the fourth oldest profession. [18:20] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:20] schoene (~ms@cpe-24-93-236-57.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:20] well, there ya go :P [18:20] sex toy = unpaid hooker? [18:21] we figured out what the 4th oldest profession is [18:21] HEY! [18:21] sinuhe is right. We're supposed to be gushing over 13.1BETA1 [18:22] NOT discussing who likes which hooker or how old what job is. [18:22] eviljames, yes, and bring the OT talk to ##slackware-offtopic ;) [18:22] eviljames: its all about kde, doesnt really equate to much [18:22] hookers and 13.1 beta go hand in hand [18:22] xsamurai: It equates to a bunch for me - KDE is my DE of choice. [18:22] kde and hookers do [18:22] i dont even use the kde. so why should i care [18:22] tell me [18:22] because you care about hookers! [18:22] mundaneforce9: are you using -current already? [18:22] ah... yeah!! [18:22] Necos, exactly, that's how we celebrate 13.1 beta 1 ;) [18:22] with hookers. :P [18:23] i like the flux [18:23] xsamurai: I've noticed impact with a (finally!) updated blackbox (so I don't have to compile my own), and a smash up of my nvidia card with that damned nouveaufb [18:23] fire|bird, i'm glad you understand :P [18:24] a [18:24] b [18:24] Adrubal3 (~alpha@93-45-108-209.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:24] c? [18:24] get out of here with those damn letter things! [18:24] you say that as a question, do you know the alphabet? [18:24] alright im out but before going [18:24] :P [18:24] Action: xsamurai stabs Necos [18:25] i do :p [18:25] ahhh peace at last [18:25] xsamurai (~jamonyou@69.43.199.101) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:25] lol [18:25] Adrubal3 (~alpha@93-45-108-209.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Client Quit [18:26] well bye all. it was very fun. almost better than hookers. [18:26] later mundaneforce9 [18:26] but not [18:26] mundaneforce9 (z@c-67-172-190-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [18:26] jUMMb0 (~alpha@93-45-108-209.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:27] ;( [18:29] schoene (~ms@cpe-24-93-236-57.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:29] jUMMb0 (~alpha@93-45-108-209.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Client Quit [18:30] Aswert11 (~alpha@93-45-108-209.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:33] that is sort of out of character (cf using a polkit with a 3rd party security/auth related patch not sancitioned by upstream) [18:33] rockslinux (~rockslinu@213.87.194.0) joined ##slackware. [18:33] hi [18:34] at some point the number of hoops to jump to avoid PAM will be more painful that migrating to PAM :P [18:35] avoiding PAM is like keeping the comatose patient on life support [18:35] Sure [18:36] bleh :P [18:36] mancha, will we ever hear the end of it? :P [18:36] yes, when i see PAM inclusion in the changelog :) [18:36] god, that's a long time from now :P [18:37] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:37] Necos: i used to wonder about it too. then i just began to switch distros, and you don't hear me complain about pam :) [18:38] s/about pam// [18:39] i've yet to have a use for PAM personally, so it doesn't bother me [18:39] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:39] thrice`: ohh wow. you actually have something to add to a discussion. how nice. [18:39] obvious joke is obvious? guess not [18:39] lol [18:39] Necos: that's how it usually goes [18:40] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:41] thrice`: troll elsewhere [18:41] I think gentoo and slackware are the last bigger ones, and even gentoo uses it by default, so hardly optional [18:41] all of my servers here at the school run slackware, and i have no problems [18:41] ananke, um, 'fuck you?" [18:41] what's your problem? [18:41] thrice`: thank you for illustrating my problem [18:42] Necos: it's not about having a problem, it's about running into a situation where pam is required. [18:42] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:43] i haven't run into that situation that requires PAM yet :P [18:43] Necos: and what's unfortunate for many is that they run into that issue long after they thought they don't need PAM :) [18:44] Aswert11 (~alpha@93-45-108-209.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:45] DEmox (~alpha@93-45-108-209.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:49] LnxSlck (1000@89.214.131.85) joined ##slackware. [18:51] I've found PAM convenient for configuration (such as with kerberos) on the RHEL/SLES and Ubuntu systems I support, but I'm sure there are other methods available, and wonder if adopting PAM from inertia isn't the way to cause more problems long term. [18:52] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:52] i prefer to use sasl [18:53] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:53] sinuhe: i'd expect to see more problems in short term, during the adoption phase, than long term. at the same time, not adopting it until much later in the game may be detrimental [18:54] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [18:55] Plan 9 has an interesting mechanism: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/auth [18:55] notice the initial pains of 64 bit release, and take into consideration that not doing 64 bit branch would result in slow death of the distro [18:56] Fair point. x86 hasn't been sold in years, and amd64 is the only game in town. I'm not sure that's true of PAM. [18:56] indeed, it's not quite the same [18:57] there's still some 32bit only hardware sold, I think [18:57] sinuhe, since i only have to support windows/osx on the desktop, i just use samba and it solves both problems in one shot :) [18:57] Necos: throw in linux into the mix and now you have an issue :) [18:58] Samba is very useful, even on Linux [18:58] well, i've been looking at integrating windows logins with my existing setup [18:58] Necos: simple things like auto creation of home dirs upon first login is much harder to do without pam [18:58] so we can recycle some older hardware that can't run XP [18:58] Good night, all [18:58] ananke, well, i have a perl script for that :) [18:58] night sinuhe [18:58] Necos: and what calls that script? [18:59] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:59] it creates the user accounts, home dirs, etc. in one shot... i call it manually when i need to make accounts [18:59] so it's at user creation. i was talking about first login. [19:00] when you have 3000 student accounts to look after, it just seems wrong not to set everything up in one shot [19:01] Necos: not when you have 3000 workstations and no shared home dirs [19:01] Kyril (~Kyril@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177839574.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:01] but their home dirs are shared... [19:01] via samba :) [19:01] Necos: so it solves your problem. however, i wasn't talking about your scenario [19:02] i get your point... just saying that you don't have to depend on PAM [19:02] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] uhmm, in _your_ scenario. and yes, you'd have to depend on pam to accomplish what i presented [19:03] ananke, so what are we arguing here? :P [19:04] i didn't say PAM wasn't useful [19:04] The-Croupier (~the-croup@76.221.177.94) joined ##slackware. [19:04] i said i haven't run into a scenario where i needed it [19:04] and i'm lucky in that respect [19:05] hey guys...what does HVAC mean??? i tried google...i understand that it has something to do with the air, and heating...but what exactly..does anyone know [19:05] air conditioning [19:05] Necos: not sure what you're arguing :) my point was all along very simple [19:05] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:05] heating, vent., Air cond. [19:05] thrice` i see ;) thank you guys [19:05] rworkman: why was polkit-gnome added? is it needed by xfce? [19:06] ananke lol [19:06] sahk0, rworkman, thrice`, ananke, and everyone else..hiya [19:06] lol heya The-Croupier [19:06] hi The-Croupier :) [19:06] :) [19:06] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] The-Croupier: hvac is basically the equipment that takes care of your temperature and humidity :) [19:06] hows it going around here...the other day, was very very quiet [19:06] cteg (~heretic@host-091-097-126-053.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Quit: this is who we are [19:07] ananke, i do remember when the early implementations of PAM had some serious holes... [19:07] s/implementations/releases/; [19:07] Necos: so did sendmail's [19:07] early implementation of many things had holes [19:07] ananke, i see...;) cos i am looking at this place ...and they said they will take care of hvac...i didnt know what it was [19:08] The-Croupier (~the-croup@76.221.177.94) left irc: Client Quit [19:08] The-Croupier (~the-croup@76.221.177.94) joined ##slackware. [19:08] The-Croupier (~the-croup@76.221.177.94) left irc: Client Quit [19:08] The-Croupier (~the-croup@76.221.177.94) joined ##slackware. [19:08] ananke, the only difference is that PAM is very deeply rooted in the system. sendmail is not [19:09] ill seeya guys in a bit...;) gotta sort things up ;) [19:09] The-Croupier, it stands for Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning [19:09] Necos: but the impact is identical. [19:09] later The-Croupier [19:09] early implementation of the linux kernel had many holes [19:09] top that [19:09] thanks guys for everything [19:09] lol mancha [19:09] no it didn't [19:09] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.53.175) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:09] talk about rooted in the system [19:09] The-Croupier (~the-croup@76.221.177.94) left irc: Client Quit [19:09] malikcpp (~malikcpp@41.248.48.210) joined ##slackware. [19:10] Necos: i can list plenty of other software, which slack included, that had major security problems over prolonged period of time. that argument simply doesn't apply anymore [19:10] slack had major security problems? [19:10] i wasn't making an argument either way... i was stating a fact [19:10] stating the fact to further an argument though [19:11] no [19:11] i.e. wasn't some random thought you interjected in a discussion on PAM [19:11] Necos: so why did you mention it? [19:11] because i've told you before, it's a very big decision to include or not include PAM [19:11] pam is for non stick cooking [19:11] and it boils down to "it'll happen when it happens" [19:12] it won't happen [19:12] i'm indifferent on the issue because i don't have a need for PAM (this i also said before) [19:12] anyone who wants it can just add it and then share the package [19:13] although, it might be closer to a distro by the time that pig is done [19:13] lol :P [19:13] Necos: at this point it's not a decision affected by its ancient security issues, but more of time and effort required to implement/test it. which unfortunately, as time passes, it results in more potential effort required to do so [19:14] ananke, "it's a very big decision to include or not include" [19:14] i think its more of a lack of interest to integrate and port everything to it [19:14] I'd rather have Pat try to include it, for the record. [19:14] if pat wants to be a lazy-ass and not implement it, that's his cup of tea [19:14] theres plenty of distros that use it if its all that [19:14] rockslinux (~rockslinu@213.87.194.0) left irc: Quit: ? [19:14] i don't see it as a complex decision at all. the issue pretty much, imho, boils down to inertia and the prospects of effort/time to add it. [19:15] jiraia_ (~ricardoba@187.66.133.64) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:15] which, to a distro maintainer is a big decision... [19:15] i wouldn't wanna have to adopt something new to adhere too [19:15] it's really a one-off though. once you pamify the system and iron out the kinks, it's done. [19:16] frankly, i wish there had been a vote on udev cause i would of veto'd it [19:16] lol [19:16] what? udev is the future. it's even dethroned hal as far as HW detection [19:17] unless pat is considering adding gnome back, i have yet to figure out of a reason polkit-gnome was added. unless it used in future xfce [19:17] |tpocra| (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:17] no, for frak sake's, don't bring gnome back. [19:17] PAM is that corner of the house that you look at and say "do i really want to go clean that up? i don't even go there" [19:17] lol [19:17] Necos, why do you say that? [19:18] If you want to use an app tied to polkit, then you'll need an auth agent in your de. KDE has one, but xfce will need one too. [19:18] after struggling without pam for 20 years, he's prolly used to it [19:18] Necos: think of it this way. potential impact on your existing stuff is very small, in terms of functionality. however, impact for those who do need it is great [19:18] Skywise, kind of my point :P [19:19] i'm agreeing with the fact that pat's dragging his feet on the issue [19:19] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:19] rworkman: yeah but it doesnt use it yet, does it? will it use polkit-gnome in 4.8? [19:19] how safe is this patched polkit anyways? it'll be the backbone of the DE auth mechanism and upstream hasn't commented on it. [19:19] ananke, i'm not saying PAM is good or bad... [19:19] i didn't wanna adopt shadow passwords either [19:20] i'm saying "it'll get here when it gets here" (this is now the 3rd or 4th time i've made this statement) [19:20] i guess my question is why does every app need to authenticate via the os [19:20] it should know what security context it's running in [19:20] sahk0: xfce itself doesn't need polkit (yet?). Some apps used there might. [19:21] mancha: define safe. :) [19:21] but i don't build boxes for users or shell accounts [19:21] The patches are small - feel free to look them over. [19:21] when i do email, i use cyrus with sasl and an ldap database [19:22] and most of it is just reorganization of the existing code [19:22] the nacl et al patches? i did look them over but i am not an expert. [19:22] Yes, those [19:23] why is upstream unwilling to add the code along with a --without-pam directive? [19:24] David said he's willing but lacking time to review. That was several months ago. [19:24] i think it takes more then that to integrate [19:24] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:24] its a whole different structure [19:24] My impression is that he just doesn't give a rat's ass since it doesn't affect the distro that writes his paychecks. [19:24] anywho, i gotta go do a software install, then head home to start my quantum mechanics review... laters folks [19:24] Skywise: you've not looked at the patches, have you? [19:24] here, here! [19:25] no, not yours [19:25] I didn't write any. [19:25] oh, who's are they [19:25] NaCl worked them up based on what PiterPunk had done for the "old" PolicyKit. [19:25] it would be nice to get their blessing...that's what i am saying [19:25] i see [19:25] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. [19:25] the old policykit didn't need patching [19:26] mancha: it would. It's been more than three months. [19:26] mancha: yes, it did. PiterPunk wrote one and it was mainlined. [19:26] oh, yeh there was a window it wasn't possible to without-pam it. ididn't realize he was behind that code [19:28] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:28] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-132.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:30] rworkman, aha yes, back in late '07 [19:35] is dz the only one who can review? [19:36] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:37] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:37] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:37] so what is polkit? [19:39] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PolicyKit [19:41] thanks sahk0 [19:42] they change names to these so frequently they dont even bother to update the resources anymore [19:42] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [19:43] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PolicyKit [19:43] sorry [19:43] Is there a way to combine 9 pdf files into one 9 page pdf document? [19:44] usr13 yes [19:44] ghostscript [19:45] something like: gs -dNOPAUSE -q -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=combined.pdf 1.pdf 2.pdf ... 9.pdf [19:45] usr13: take a look at 'mpage' too [19:45] actually, nevermind :) [19:46] hail86 (~bogdan@74.198.12.3) joined ##slackware. [19:47] hi, is sdlmame-data required to run sdlmame? [19:48] no, it's an addon [19:49] thank you [19:49] but I recommend you add it [19:49] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] cheats :D [19:51] I got skills [19:51] LnxSlck (1000@89.214.131.85) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:51] me too, cheating [19:51] Action: powtrix campers [19:53] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:53] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:53] ananke: It worked partially.. Made a 7 page pdf but that's as far as it would go.. [19:54] <_guitarman_> anyone using pulseaudio to jack bridging in here? [19:55] http://pastebin.com/fxS6v8jr [19:56] mancha did I do something wrong? http://pastebin.com/fxS6v8jr [19:57] rogersman1 (~gr235423@nat/sun/x-kyormryossluzgxz) joined ##slackware. [19:57] evenin' all [20:05] OK - i really hate google's new look [20:05] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:06] i was thinking of that earlier [20:06] Action: rogersman1 checking out youtube on HTML5 - haha - Death to Flash! :-D [20:07] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:07] it seems more android friendly though [20:07] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:07] ah, so that was the motivation... [20:08] it's very bing-like [20:08] not supported in firefox tho :-p [20:08] that was my guess. my therapist suggested to start [20:09] argh [20:09] that was my guess. my therapist suggested to start looking at the bright side of things [20:09] hi, i'm using slackware 13.0 + multilib (alienBob). all of my browsers have started crawling on this laptop. the laptop next to this one has the same setup, and it's responding like it always has. how can i / where can i look for wlan0 messages? dmesg dosn't appear helpful. [20:10] i think mozilla and google are figuring out the html5 support issue [20:10] behind closed doors [20:10] i have a full connection to my router according to wicd. [20:12] anything that give's adobe a kick in the balls is allright by me... [20:12] mancha: I just tried it with 7 and then 6 files and no errors... So wonder if it will only work to combine 7 files or less? [20:12] apple gave 'em one too [20:13] the slackware.com page loads, and then continues loading for minutes at a time. (just an example) [20:13] from what i hear, flash development stopped on the iStuff [20:15] thoughts from Lucifer hisself, hoss: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ [20:16] what can i do to trouble shoot very slow web connection? [20:16] i can't even google search 'firefox is slow linux' [20:16] blkdg: phone ur isp? [20:16] and clearly i can use xchat. [20:17] no, it\s not the isp [20:17] well, [20:17] they don't suppor the os, and the'll tell me that everything's fine [20:17] plus, my other slacklaptop on here works fin [20:18] e , and they're both 13.0 + multilib using the firefox and konquer that came with slack [20:19] is there anything i can look at besides dmesg? [20:20] blkdg ping some sites and see if any packets are lost [20:20] pinging: [20:20] pong [20:21] --- slackware.com ping statistics --- [20:21] 4 packets transmitted, 3 received, 25% packet loss, time 21229ms [20:21] not good sensei [20:21] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:21] PING slackware.com (64.57.102.34) 56(84) bytes of data. [20:21] uh oh [20:22] 64 bytes from 64.57.102.34: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=106 ms [20:22] yes all right [20:22] sorry bout that. it's backwards [20:22] it took forever to send the ping [20:22] i have an idea, post several pages of ping output here in the channel! [20:22] :) [20:22] sorry mancha [20:23] a ping time of 106ms is not bad [20:23] darkrho (~rolando@190.107.43.193) joined ##slackware. [20:23] Nick change: darkrho -> rolando_ [20:23] blkdg: check hardware...antenna, physical connection, etc [20:23] i just wanted to show those 3 lines. i can't get to pastebin.ca ... [20:23] somebody had installed miniupnpc? [20:23] wicd says 80% [20:24] ifconfig wlan0, this'llgive you a packet breakdown with errors and drops and overruns [20:25] ifconfig wlan0 says 0 errors 0 dropped 0 overrun 0 frame 0 carrier [20:25] can't compile latest miniupnpc python module =( [20:25] that's good then. [20:25] for both rx and tx packets [20:25] 0 collisions [20:25] try wearing a hat made of tin foil..worked for me [20:26] so what is the problem? specifically? [20:26] as for connections, it's an onboard wifi card. [20:27] iwconfig wlan0 should provide the power and connection quality info [20:27] i thought the foil hat keeps the voices out of one's head... [20:27] anyhow, [20:27] does both actually, very handy [20:28] anyone in UK here? [20:28] guys which heading is connection quality? MTU ? [20:28] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.73.153) joined ##slackware. [20:28] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.73.153) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:29] "LInk Quality" [20:29] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:29] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.153) joined ##slackware. [20:29] did you notice the "w" and not the "f" ? [20:30] ahhh!! [20:30] iwconfig [20:30] cool [20:30] lLink Quality=82/100 Signal level:-80 dBm [20:31] Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=27 dBm [20:31] that's your issue: it's picking 1MB/s [20:31] ok. [20:31] how do i change that? and more importatnly, what changed from yesterday.... [20:32] you should be in the 54MB/s range...if you have a good wireless conn [20:32] ok [20:32] should the bit range change if i move ? [20:32] it is usually variable and dependent on SNR (signal to noise) [20:32] yes, it should change if you get close to the AP [20:33] ok, from a trouble shooting angle, the laptop in question is always in this room, always at this table, unless its off and tucked away, so unless theres some weird atmospheric flare right ubove my house [20:33] a / u [20:35] well a few things: a) did the AP move? b) are there more interfering devices around the house now? wirelessphones, etc? c) did the orientation of the laptop change since the integrated wifi prolly has the antenanna in the monitor assembly [20:35] i am now in front of the antenna for the router and the bit rate fluxuates between 1 mb s 2 mb s [20:36] the AP never moves [20:36] sometimes even oening up the laptop monitor toa different angle can cause thisto change [20:36] no new phone, and the phones are all off right now [20:36] you are right next to the AP and the bitrate stays below 2 Mb/s? [20:38] wait up, that think you said about the clam shell [20:38] i'm altering the angle to like 90 degreese and i hit 54 [20:38] so i went backup spatirs and i'm at 32 [20:39] let me try an annoying blackboardwebsite that i'll be the test [20:39] one sec please [20:39] 32's not bad. you should notice normal speeds again [20:40] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Quit: time to see if the updates worked! [20:41] damn, access speeds on my ext NTFS HDD are damn slow... [20:41] powerless usb connection...think that could be it? [20:42] it's fluxuating between 18 and 31 / 32 [20:43] i've got the clam shell cranked the way my user uses it, and it's at the edge of the usual table. [20:43] mr-S^b43 (~Mr-S^b32@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:43] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:44] to answer a previous quesiotn, yes i was 3 feet from the AP, with the clam open 90 and was getting 1 / 2 mb /s [20:44] eviljames (~james@S0106001d7e684945.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:44] ok, so i learned about iwconfig and clamshells tonight [20:44] thanks mancha [20:44] good night folks. [20:44] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:51] latemus (~m@c-24-10-210-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:53] hey, I want to add a new account that will be able to use sftp/sshfs but not be able to login -- if I set the shell to /bin/false, mount_sshfs stops working, any ideas? [20:53] hackeron_ (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [20:54] that's spam? talk about zero tolerance [20:55] Action: Skywise wonders who's next [20:55] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:56] tck9 (~gentoo@S010600a2bc4a5271.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] anyone know of a way to update a public ssh key from the console? perl -p -i -e 's,old key,new key,g' authorized_keys isn't working [20:56] DEmox (~alpha@93-45-108-209.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:57] uhm..copy the new key file over the old? [20:57] or cat it to the end? [20:57] or use sed? [20:58] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:58] using sed is a nice idea. [20:58] You could use grep and cat to do it [20:58] About 4 billion ways to do it [20:58] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. 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[21:04] cat file_containing_new_bits - | ssh hostname -c "cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys" [21:04] untested but the idea is good [21:05] but that won't remove the old key [21:05] the old key is getting replaced by a new key [21:05] Oh, in that case, hrm [21:06] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:06] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:09] akallio (~pepsi@96.36.146.78) joined ##slackware. [21:09] Do a 'grep -v "user@host" > .ssh/newauthkeyfile' and then the line from above but appended to that file instead of the authorized_keys file; hten move the temp one over [21:10] someone make a fluxbox style that fits this wallpaper: http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4600/1273184844395.png [21:11] Omit that "-c" btw [21:11] got it working using a diff method [21:11] sed -i 's,old ssh key,new ssh key,g' authorized_keys [21:11] perl sux ;p [21:12] My way owrks too - just tested :) [21:13] what was msmtp replaced with in sendmail? [21:13] akallio (~pepsi@96.36.146.78) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:14] my way seems more intuitive though, right ;p [21:14] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [21:14] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [21:15] tck9: whatever works is good :) [21:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:16] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [21:19] hd (~jd@rocket.vel.lv) joined ##slackware. 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[21:35] the gnome slackbuild [21:36] for desktop? [21:36] for modifying desktop logos and icons? [21:37] It's a gnome distribution [21:37] for slackware [21:37] :) [21:37] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [21:38] rolando_ (~rolando@190.107.43.193) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:39] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [21:40] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:42] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [21:49] john_dee (~id@95-29-184-244.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [21:50] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:52] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [21:55] rworkman: you know that there is a polkit-gnome 0.96, right? [21:55] hail86 (~bogdan@74.198.12.3) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:58] Which makes 0 sense [21:59] 0.01 sense, actually [22:01] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:01] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) joined ##slackware. [22:04] wawowe (wawowe@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ihqjgmgmfotjanrx) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:05] goj (~goj@p4FE6B043.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:13] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:18] TriniTuX (~chatzilla@cuscon152004.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [22:19] slackware 13.1 beta! Yay! :-D [22:21] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:22] goj (~goj@p5488FF6E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:39] hitest, goin' great as well for the evening thanks..:) [22:42] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:42] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [22:47] hitest, salmon season in your neck of the woods,right? [22:48] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:48] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:51] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:53] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [22:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. 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[23:08] hitest, cool....saw a program not too long ago that was showing the chinook being caught in spring...so had to ask..:D [23:09] hahaha sounds good ;) [23:09] how are you doing these days? [23:09] oooh big update today in the ChangeLog today eh ? [23:10] nice.... [23:10] yep:) [23:10] yeah [23:11] kde 4.4 iirc was the big one [23:11] gonna upgrade tomorrow methinks [23:11] And the kits [23:11] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [23:11] is there a kill command for windows??? [23:11] pskill [23:11] you have to get it from their site though [23:11] I think there's one in windows server 2008 and possibly vista/7 [23:12] Hey guys. I need to create a group in order to build Pulse Audio, but I have no idea how to do that. [23:12] shit..... [23:12] glad so far that slack doesn't need PAM yet [23:12] The-Croupier: what's up? [23:12] firefox is being bitchy... [23:13] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] crash and burn? [23:13] yep yep yep [23:13] cannot kill it somehow...on that little notebook kind of thing [23:13] im going from smaller to smaller computers...and they never are mine [23:14] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:14] killall -9 firefox-bin doesn't work, The-Croupier ? [23:14] windows [23:14] windows? [23:15] < The-Croupier> is there a kill command for windows??? [23:15] fhobia: htop,top...etc...would sort that out on linux or killall ; [23:15] fhobia: he's runing windows [23:15] oh [23:15] there should be a way toterminate applications [23:15] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [23:15] shit, man, i thought like the windows of firefox or something [23:15] hitest: im not all the time [23:15] :) [23:15] what about the task manager thing [23:15] already tried that i assume [23:15] yep [23:15] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:16] next up: power button ;] [23:16] next up: hammer [23:16] fhobia: that is shit...there should be something more sensitive ; [23:16] im a sensitive guy...i cannot hit, or mistreat computers [23:16] :) [23:16] i can windows...but i cannot this little laptop...its my cousins [23:16] i only hit one computer and it was a ps3 [23:17] The-Croupier: whip out MSVC and write one yourself. :P [23:17] did windows7 get rid of the taskkill command that was in WindowsXP? [23:17] NaCl: ? what do you mean? [23:17] calling it a day...night all [23:18] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:18] you could easily whip out a command that takes in a pid or a process name and nuke it. [23:18] with knowledge of windoze system calls [23:18] NaCl: hmmm how could that be done? [23:18] ohhh [23:19] well there is something funny....after taskmanager...end-process for like 5 times...after giving up on it...it stopped by itself [23:19] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [23:19] windows is shit...i need my laptop back [23:19] escaflown (~elom@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] ive been using this for like 1week...im pissed off like everyday [23:19] see they didn't.. http://learningpcs.blogspot.com/2009/11/utility-taskkill-windows-7.html [23:21] there is no tasklist on this one ; [23:21] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb491009.aspx [23:23] anyway...brb ;) NaCl, thank you for your help ;) [23:23] The-Croupier (Arbi_Goce@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [23:23] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [23:25] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:25] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Power...off. [23:26] saw that "new" slackware logo on alienBOB's wiki [23:26] kind've like it :3 [23:27] In order to build the SlackBuild of Pulse audio it says I need to create a group using "# groupadd" and a user using "# useradd." I did both of these but when going to build Pusle it still tells me I need to use # groupadd [23:28] is the SlackBuild checking for the group or is it programmed to always echo that statement ? [23:29] I have no idea, how would I be able to tell? [23:29] open up the SlackBuild using vim and glance over it [23:29] is this from SlackBuilds.org ? [23:29] Yes. [23:29] I'm using sbopkg [23:29] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:30] oh ok, so when you choose that package, there was that huge menu right ? [23:30] one of them was View SlackBuild [23:30] use that to take a look and see what it does [23:31] Ah okay. [23:31] It's only if the group doesn't exist. [23:31] oh, ok [23:31] " [23:31] if ! grep ^pulse: /etc/group 2>&1 > /dev/null; then [23:31] echo " Must have a pulse group to run this script." [23:31] Channel flood from CelestialWurm -- kicking [23:31] echo " # groupadd pulse" [23:31] echo " Or something similar." [23:31] CelestialWurm kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:31] hehe [23:31] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:31] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:32] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [23:32] Cool. [23:32] Kicked for flooding. [23:32] Anyway. [23:32] hehe, so whats in /etc/group ? [23:32] no sign of what you tried to put in there ? [23:32] I don't see "pulse" anywhere. [23:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [23:33] escaflown (~elom@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:33] hmm, have to try groupadd again i guess [23:33] you can tell us what you typed in - maybe there was some typo or missing option [23:34] "# groupadd pulse" [23:34] bah [23:34] slakker (~chatzilla@69-11-33-225.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:34] CelestialWurm: that's a comment. :P [23:34] Wow. I feel like an idiot. [23:34] ? [23:34] It would just be "groupadd pulse" ? [23:35] Yeah. [23:35] Nevermind. [23:35] Pardon my stupidity. [23:35] what was the problem ? [23:35] The "#" [23:35] Lmfao. [23:35] oh, ha ha, all right [23:36] Yeah. [23:36] It's building now. [23:36] God dammit I am an idiot. [23:36] :) well, thanks to that, i notice i have /etc/group and /etc/group- [23:36] wonder why i do... [23:36] Don't mess with them [23:36] You're welcome ;D. Haha. [23:37] don't mess with group and group- [23:37] NaCl: ? [23:37] I'm off to bed while this monster builds. G'night. [23:37] Thanks NaCl [23:37] sure thing [23:38] fhobia: if those files are incorrect, Really Bad Things Happen (R) [23:38] what is group- though ? [23:39] group- is from 2/5/2010...which is before i got the computer [23:39] :P [23:39] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:41] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:43] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [23:44] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:45] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:48] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:49] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [23:49] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [23:50] \o [23:50] Mornin' [23:51] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [23:51] Good morning FriedBob [23:51] Sup? [23:52] not much [23:52] just woke up [23:52] I'm smoking a cigar before bed. [23:53] not healthy :) [23:53] And watching glitch.fm on ustream [23:53] hmm [23:53] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:54] Trying to decide what song to chop and screw next as wel [23:56] grayn0de (~root@cpe-66-69-220-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:57] latemus (~m@c-24-10-210-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [23:58] Action: alreadygone is also tuned into glitch.fm now, cool song... or music :) [23:58] The audio stream, or the ustream? [23:58] Why my compiz wont rotate cube? [23:58] hi; i'm getting an out of disk space error when I have more than half the / free http://paste.linuxassist.net/215254 [23:59] audio stream [23:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:59] that is what I normally listen to, but decided to watch tonight [00:00] df > /dev/sda3 15G 6.5G 7.3G 48% / [00:00] --- Fri May 7 2010