[00:00] lol [00:00] losha: Depending on what you're looking to install, you're not going to find EVERYTHING pre-packaged or even from SlackBuilds.org [00:00] multitasking ftw! \o/ [00:00] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:00] you're not going to find everything pre-packaged for redhat or debian either... [00:00] losha: In which, as I was informed earlier by Dominian, you'd have to compile them from source. [00:01] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [00:01] Urchlay: it's not the compile time per se, it's the waiting to be able to use something. I guess once you've set it all up, it's not big deal. I have to hand it to Ubuntu, I can't remember the last time I *had* to compile something because there wasn't a prebuilt. And some things are just a nightmare to compile from scratch e.g. firefox [00:01] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) left ##slackware. [00:02] losha: Which I don't really like to do because it becomes impossible to keep track of them. [00:02] phreak: build slackbuilds [00:02] phreak: the short answer is; yes.. you have to build from source. the long answer is: build a slackbuild script that createse a package and install it that way [00:02] Dominian: Is there a some kind of guide for that? [00:03] so what about e.g. firefox. No-one compiles that for themselves, right? [00:03] slackbuilds.org has a template and instructions to get you started [00:03] Dominian: Awesome. Thanks again. [00:04] no problem [00:04] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "Changing server" [00:04] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:07] losha, it's one of the packages that can be installed during slackware's setup process. That is if you want it installed then ;-) [00:08] erisco (n=kambee@181.131.128.131.reshall.uri.edu) joined ##slackware. [00:08] losha, you don't even need to install X if all you're doing is server or strict cli ;-) [00:08] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-13-103.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] phreak (n=phreak@pool-108-1-98-52.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:09] jescis: ok, that's good. I don't wanna have to wait days before I can surf the web. I assume the bigger packages are available prebuilt? firefox, emacs, mplayer. Or would you expect to have to compile these? [00:09] all those are part of slackware anyway. [00:10] meaning they *are* available prebuilt? [00:10] losha, yes [00:11] ok, doesn't sound too onerous. Thanks to all for putting up with my newbie questions.... [00:12] jhell (n=89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [00:12] losha, we've all been newb once ;-) [00:13] losha: with the exception of mplayer, all that is good to go(may be mistaken about mplayer, btw) [00:13] mplayer is in 13 [00:13] And is 13.0 suitably stable. I ask because the latest Ubuntu releases have been a big mess, but you'd never know it from the web page... [00:15] losha, it wouldn't be 13.0 if it wasn't stable, it would be still in testing ;-) [00:15] davi (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [00:15] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [00:15] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [00:16] jescis: If I applied that reasoning to Ubuntu, I'd think their latest release was stable (and it's not)... [00:16] losha, in fact I'm using it as we speak :-) [00:16] But, ubuntu and slackware are two different distros [00:17] slackware being the oldest ;-) [00:17] Pat releases when it is ready, ubuntu sets a date [00:17] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [00:18] yeah, time-based releases --- like watching Lucy & Ethel in the chocolate factory episode.... [00:18] lol, yeah really XD [00:19] ok, the torrent's downloading. I'll probably be back soon. Thanks y'all.... [00:20] np [00:20] losha: good luck [00:20] losha: Wow. I totally remember that episode. [00:20] good luck,loshua...hopefully,you have a good experience [00:21] losha, glad to help :-) [00:23] i'm watching carl sagan [00:23] redtricycle, me too :-) [00:23] Cosmos? [00:24] yeah [00:24] redtricycle, it was already in rerun heaven when I watched it. But, it was still funny ;-) [00:24] I loved that show when I was a kid, I haven't seen it in a long time [00:25] this is good too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU8PId_6xec [00:25] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [00:26] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.151) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:26] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [00:28] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [00:31] What do you guys think is a good way to repartition? I've got a 101gb spinning hard drive (/dev/hda) partitioned all to Slackware13.0 I want to free up some of that space i'm not using for a different file system. [00:31] it's currently mounted on / [00:32] use a gparted live cd [00:32] Thanks [00:33] backup critical data first, too [00:34] erisco (n=kambee@181.131.128.131.reshall.uri.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:38] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-77-48.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:39] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [00:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:42] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [00:42] delt0r (n=delt0r@80-123-59-31.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:44] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[02:19] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [02:22] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:22] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [02:24] echelon (n=echelon@2001:41d0:1:bb3f:0:0:0:1020) left ##slackware. [02:24] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:32] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [02:35] http://omploader.org/vMnBodQ [02:35] my pride and joy ^ [02:38] greetings gentlemen [02:38] that's the first time this happens to [02:39] since i complete my install of slackware to a full install (iirc) i didn't have accent in my urxvt term anymore, even if i set LANG, and LC_ALL to fr_FR.UTF8 [02:40] in my zshrc [02:40] http://slackwaregallery.org/thumbnails.php?album=6 woooohHHH!!! [02:40] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Connection timed out [02:41] deco: is it fluxbox with xmobar ? [02:43] sidh: no it's openbox :D [02:44] running conky [02:45] ah ok [02:45] xmobar definitely looks like conky [02:45] sidh: well conky can look like many things ... [02:45] by default it's not horizantal like that [02:48] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.79.189) left irc: "Leaving" [02:48] what are the advantages of openbox compared to fluxbox ? [02:48] deco: yes i know conky by default , it was used in FreeSBIE [02:50] sidh: well....you can undecorate windows by default .. but i dont know i just use what feels right to me... [02:50] ah ok [02:51] sidh: what do you use ? [02:52] 2 opposite dm on 2 opposite machines : xmonad/xmobar and kde4 (i give it a third chance on slackware) [02:53] nice [02:53] jfo_ (n=jfo@92.82.79.189) joined ##slackware. [02:58] sidh: this was my kde 4 setup http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=2 [02:59] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-220.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:20] slackmagic: I'm great, thank you. I'm just updating my slack -current vm. [03:20] fire|bird: nice, virtualbox or vmware? [03:20] VirtualBox [03:20] fire|bird: :) [03:21] slackmagic: part of the update is kde 4.3.3, so it's taking a little bit. :) [03:22] i lost accent in konsole and urxvt , but LC_ALL and LANG are set to fr_FR.UTF8, any idea ? [03:22] i see no use really for geany ... i can do the same things in vim/gvim [03:23] it's a nice lil IDE [03:24] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-55-221.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:24] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-55-221.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:24] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-55-221.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [03:26] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-55-221.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:31] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [03:33] freebse (n=freebse@f055200110.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. 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[03:44] hey, irreversibly|bosom [03:44] eh, fire|bird [03:45] ok i have accents in uxterm, but not in urxvt and konsole, and LC_ALL and LANG are set to fr_FR.UTF8 [03:45] quite strange [03:45] Urchlay: heh, good thing that was the first one, second one was elongated|shaft :/ [03:47] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:48] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-118-31.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:51] freebse (n=freebse@f055200110.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:51] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [03:53] freebse (n=freebse@f055200110.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [03:54] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:57] RobDob (n=rpedrica@165.145.75.61) joined ##slackware. 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[04:38] coffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecof [04:39] Action: Zordrak apologises.. but his excuse is that, demonstrably, he hasn't had his coffee yet.. [04:39] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [04:39] how do you have the energy to remember how to spell "demonstrably" if you haven't had your coffee yet? [04:40] thats not energy.. thats just pure cerebral gold :) [04:41] before my 1st cup of coffee, my cerebrum feels more like tarnished brass [04:42] seriously, I can't even speak before the 1st cup, I try and it sounds like a caveman grunting [04:44] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:45] something to do with the painful commute and a shitload of adrenaline keeps me pumping just about long enough for me to make and let cool my first cup [04:45] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:45] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:48] you *drive* without drinking coffee first? [04:48] I would die [04:49] unless maybe I fell asleep waiting for the car to warm up [04:51] and coffee helps when you drive? [04:53] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:54] being awake helps [04:54] especially when the bladder get's full [04:55] haqe17_ (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:56] haqe17_ (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Client Quit [04:56] yht (n=Administ@118.96.121.225) left ##slackware. [04:56] nah, it's like my synapses get stuck, the coffee acts like wd-40 or something, lubricates them so they work again [04:59] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.23.118) joined ##slackware. [05:01] i just wish my cup wasnt double-walled so my coffee would cool quicker [05:01] i cant drink it till about 40mins after ive made it [05:05] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [05:06] http://code.google.com/p/crux4slack/ <- did not try it yet, but i'm curious about it. seems like an additional slackbuild source :_) [05:06] does anyone know how I can extract artist name, song title and such from an mp3 file? the problem is I have a bunch of mp3s with numerical filename that need sorting [05:07] haqe17: google "id3 tag" [05:07] check the mp3 tools that look at metadata [05:07] like Zordrak said :) [05:08] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:11] thnkx Zordrak [05:11] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:15] mornin [05:16] Action: spook runs [05:17] spooks cant run. they are spirit. [05:18] well that's not troo but it's poetic [05:19] Quiznos: spook also means secret agent [05:19] i know [05:19] so he's te fbi man here? [05:19] te/the [05:19] as in, "spot the govtagent" [05:19] its also a racial slur [05:19] lol [05:20] with that nick, he dont play very well! [05:20] EA are very pedantic about not allowing 'racial slurs' as nicknames in their games. [05:20] it gets annoying [05:20] Ea *is* [05:20] it's a corporation [05:21] EA is made up of people. [05:21] Quiznos: yes.. but it is appropriate to shorten EA Staff and Moderators to EA for the purposes of live textual conversation [05:21] get back under your bridge [05:21] therefore both are equally gramatically correct. [05:22] i know; his use of "are" created a momentary cognitive disonnace taht I had to correct [05:22] it was glaring [05:22] zyou're glaring [05:22] dissonance [05:22] now gtfo [05:22] byteme [05:22] stfu [05:22] you aint the boss of me [05:22] Quiznos: but your correction was invalid, both are correct. [05:22] mayhaps [05:23] which means you know you've been called out on it, but dont want to admit you were wrong. [05:23] Action: Zordrak is loving that his GB ff is now updating itself.. no more waiting on pat for ff updates [05:23] i'm not proud, i can admit when it happens [05:23] Quiznos: i've yet to see it. [05:24] grep ##linux logs [05:24] you also seem to offer advice about things you have no clue about. [05:24] now that's just untroo [05:24] pics or it didnt happen [05:24] heh [05:24] example 1: telling someone to give the apache user a proper shell. [05:24] i'm not a fiction author [05:24] that's not wrong [05:25] unusual but not wrong [05:25] but we were discussing passwd, not a shell. [05:25] he asked about passwd [05:25] i told go ahead [05:26] anything else? [05:26] lemme look through my logs [05:26] lol ok [05:27] quiznos, you need to eat some sedatives [05:27] i thought you bookmarked the probs [05:27] Action: Zordrak is delighted.... have gone from 10 lmgrd instances across 5 solaris machines (7-9) and one RH9 machine.. to just two and both on a slackware machine :D [05:27] nah [05:27] i wish i knew this girl's name singing [05:28] "suddenly I see.." [05:28] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:29] kt tunstall [05:29] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [05:29] lol [05:29] Action: chee blush [05:29] NqqmNet (i=1000@87.120.157.27) joined ##slackware. [05:29] Quiznos, kt tunstall [05:31] got to the end of my backlog without finding anything [05:31] but i'll call you on anything i see in future. [05:34] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-143-229.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:35] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:36] cheako ty [05:36] spook i know, but your record so far is 0-1 :) [05:36] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-69b35da9b1d63acb) joined ##slackware. [05:36] spook i dont mind correction at all. just be able to support it if i dont ack it immediately [05:37] in fact, others here have corrected me and my usual response is either `k' or `why'? [05:37] Quiznos: its not so much a personal attack against you, just against bad/very wrong advice in general. [05:38] absolutely, i know but it personal. but you're not dealing with an immature man. [05:38] i respond well to correct correction [05:38] it's error i want to avoid [05:38] but error does happen too [05:38] albeit not often with me. [05:39] so you correct me, as others do. [05:39] i'm unoffendable. [05:39] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [05:39] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:39] hi [05:39] wb [05:40] ishmae1 (n=marcoant@189.98.32.37) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [05:41] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [05:50] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:50] how do i set the working directory of a script? [05:50] cd [05:50] haqe17: http://www.bashcurescancer.org [05:51] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:51] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [05:51] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:51] it's .com [05:51] haqe17: you should probably set the working directory with cd anyway. [05:52] bah [05:52] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:52] org com and net are just excuses for duplication [05:52] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [05:52] theyre original intention has been reduced to near meaninglessnes [05:52] yup [05:53] technically, microsoft.org can be a non-profit free software company, and microsoft.net can be an internet service provider ;-) [05:54] oops, i said the micro word :-x [05:54] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [05:54] heh [05:57] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-69b35da9b1d63acb) left irc: [05:59] petslack (n=petslack@201-42-216-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[06:16] Action: haqe17 shoots himself in the head [06:17] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:18] Axius (n=fd@92.82.91.25) joined ##slackware. [06:18] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:19] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:21] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:22] nmoura (n=nmoura@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:22] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:23] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.77.128) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:28] can anyone help? http://pastebin.com/m326902ad the files are getting renamed properly but files with no id3tag arent getting removed, no idea how to fix it [06:31] haqe17, always quote your variables. [06:31] Gargantua (n=opera@213.188.77.157) joined ##slackware. [06:31] never parse ls output. [06:31] for i in * [06:32] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [06:32] spook: its not easy to find details of single-blockdev lvm.. everythings all about what happens when you span [06:32] or *.mp3 [06:32] Zordrak: uh well, i guess i could help. [06:32] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [06:32] buh? [06:33] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. [06:33] Rint (n=john@static-71-244-60-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) got netsplit. [06:33] haqe17, i really recommend you join #bash by the way. [06:33] WRT to whether lvm is the solution.. the answer is *maybe* [06:34] because it provides a cfg backup/restore [06:34] Zordrak: talking about lvm snapshots? [06:35] which is effectively what i was concerned about.. if anything goes tits in the LVM setup i can restore the metadata with the backup [06:35] basically, i much prefer lvm over extended partitions [06:36] extended parts was never part of the solution [06:36] Zordrak: oh yeah, its like a partition within a partition, the metadata is inside the lvm partition. [06:36] Rint (i=john@static-71-244-60-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:36] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) returned to ##slackware. [06:36] its just a matter of reducing the xfs fs size while leaving flexibility... but also removing a single point of failure for the whole cluster [06:37] yeah. [06:37] i was concerned that the lvm metadata was a SPOF [06:37] but since it can be backed up and restored.. that helps [06:37] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:37] xfs + lvm is a very awesome combination, because of the potential to do online fs growing [06:38] it *is an extra layer of complexity.. but it gives me two distinct benefits and stops the whole daily live rsnapshot to a 3rd tier crap [06:38] Zordrak: well, we hope anyway :P [06:39] so my stack will be: RAID6 -> drbd (-> RAID 61) -> LVM -> xfs [06:39] When I run this mkdir -p /music/books/pro i get this msg: mkdir: cannot create directory `/music': Permission denied. [06:39] Axius: as a iuser you dont have write permission in / [06:39] Axius, must be root to write to / [06:39] slava_dp: pwned :) [06:39] Zordrak types faster [06:40] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) left ##slackware. [06:40] Action: Zordrak is on dvorak.. whats *your* excuse? :p [06:41] I am on my /home/user directory and I get that error! [06:41] ugh.. preponding / means "do it in /" [06:41] Nick change: davi -> cybErpunk [06:41] *prepending [06:41] Axius: mkdir -p /music/books/pro != mkdir -p music/books/pro [06:47] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [06:47] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:85) joined ##slackware. [06:48] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:49] arcaos_ (n=arcaos@host-12-205-154.linksat.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [06:50] losha (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/losher) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009102814]" [06:55] hey everyone, quick wicd question. Anyone knows what this is? : glib.GError: The name org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files [06:57] rlood (n=rlood@93.139.110.105) joined ##slackware. [06:58] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [06:58] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-184-215.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:00] ishmae1 (n=marcoant@200.202.122.5) joined ##slackware. [07:01] Kaapa: do you have the /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd executable and running? [07:02] gapan: yes, and it works. That error is when it tries to connect to tray [07:02] Kaapa: generally its considered bad ettique to cross post with the same problem. [07:03] spook: you were faster there. And you are right [07:03] there = where? :) [07:04] so I'll just move to one place :) [07:04] there == #wicd [07:04] sorry for that [07:04] moving here, spook was saying it is a dbus problem [07:04] mitchx (n=mitchx@chello089077133211.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:05] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:05] Sounds like you are not in the netdev group [07:05] I am [07:05] hello, i have camera in my hp dv-5 pavilion, how can i install it under slack? which file in /dev represents that cam? [07:05] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.214.15) joined ##slackware. [07:06] tmkd: dmesg and lsusb will probably help you [07:07] spook, camera is built in [07:07] so you mean a webcam. [07:07] try lsusb. [07:07] if its uvc, should be /dev/video0 [07:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:08] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [07:09] spook, can you tell me how can i read what shows lsusb? [07:10] tmkd: what do you mean? [07:10] Action: The-Croupier greets everybody [07:11] tmkd, run "lsusb" as root [07:11] anyone uses wicd+xfce? [07:12] slava_dp, yes i done it [07:12] Kaapa, i do. on slack 12.2 :P [07:12] Axius (n=fd@92.82.91.25) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:12] can that someone tell me if you have a xfce4-notifyd [07:12] lsusb shows a lot of devices with Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub connected [07:12] what is that? [07:13] Linux Foundation haz ur usbs now [07:13] slava_dp, ? what [07:13] slava_dp, can you exaplain it? [07:13] slava_dp, i dont speak english very well [07:14] tmkd, run "dmesg | grep -i cam", see if you get anything useful [07:15] slava_dp, i have found /dev/video0 [07:15] askhader_ (n=sayed@rn--ctm-1-1-a05.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:15] unfortunately dmseg doesnot work [07:15] tmkd, then install a camera program. like wxcam, available on slackbuilds.org. [07:16] askhader (n=sayed@rn--ctm-1-1-a05.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:16] or just about any other program that can work with a webcam. [07:17] slava_dp, when webcam exists in /dev/ that means device have driver, and is installed in system? [07:17] tmkd, yes. you just need a program to work with it. the driver is installed. [07:18] packetee1 (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:18] ohh, thanks, on the other hand, when dev doesnot have driver, is it some files in dev? [07:20] tmkd, the drivers are inside your linux kernel. in /dev/ are just files to access the corresponding devices. if the driver is correctly loaded, you will usually have a device in /dev appear. [07:20] to read kernel messages (and driver messages too), run dmesg. [07:21] what about situation when device doesnot have driver in kernel? [07:21] rarely happens [07:22] two options: write your own; have someone write it for you [07:22] :-) it's linux after all [07:22] third option: wait a little, maybe someone will write one. [07:23] slava_dp, can you show me some interesting place (maybe ebook) about linux architecture/ [07:23] ? [07:23] tmkd, start with the slackbook. /topic [07:24] slava_dp, ok thanks [07:25] you're welcome :) [07:26] packetee1 (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:26] tmkd, tldp.org has lots of documentation too (although sometimes not very current). [07:26] you can also hang out in this channel and read the talks :-) [07:27] eo6b (n=eo6b@ver60-1-88-167-237-207.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:28] [07:28] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:28] slava_dp, yes, i always open channel [07:29] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] NthDegree_ (n=nth@88-107-169-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. 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[08:07] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [08:09] ok, i found something like that, but it have only ondemand performacne option [08:10] but it can be. [08:10] then demand whatever you want :) [08:10] is that all your cpu supports, maybe? [08:10] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:11] cmair (n=cmair@dns.sad.it) joined ##slackware. [08:11] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [08:11] Action: slava_dp just uses powernowd and pm-suspend bound to the power button [08:11] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:12] guax (n=guaxinim@201.47.74.147) joined ##slackware. [08:13] I like xfce-power-manager for screen blanking [08:14] penyunet (n=tamingsa@211.234.119.5) joined ##slackware. [08:15] hi guys :) [08:15] hi Camarade_Tux [08:15] any tool to recreate a partition table? a friend of mine broke his... [08:16] Camarade_Tux: gpart [08:16] miked (n=mike@203.88.90.202) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:16] it will scan your device and try to recreate partition table based on what it finds [08:17] of course, it really depends on what really took place [08:17] It's possibile to add a linux partition after slack was installed? [08:17] a windows "fixboot"/"fixmbr" [08:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [08:18] Camarade_Tux: that deals with mbr not partition table [08:18] Axius: it depends on what you have on your disk in terms of unpartitioned space [08:19] well, I can't really say, it's not me but a friend of mine who broke it [08:19] Action: Camarade_Tux wouldn't have broken it :D [08:19] Camarade_Tux: and consequently, we can't help you, if we don't know what happened [08:19] petslack (n=petslack@201-42-216-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:20] well, I know how hard it is [08:20] he has an idea, I have a rough idea, need to see how it goes >< [08:21] ananke: i've the ext3 partition on hd. [08:22] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:24] yoyoyo (i=7cbb338e@gateway/web/freenode/x-dffea762edbbcf22) joined ##slackware. [08:24] I made the partition with magic parted. [08:24] HI! [08:24] BYE! [08:24] Hi? [08:25] Why are there so many users online, but nobody talks? [08:25] Are they all away? [08:25] hi [08:25] no, they are all just staring at the screen [08:26] in anticipation [08:26] waiting for you yoyoyo [08:26] of somebody to speak [08:26] thought so [08:26] yoyoyo: What's going on? [08:26] Nothing much. [08:27] It's hailing here. [08:27] I should probably talk about Slack [08:27] sweetandy (n=sweetand@c-98-237-235-242.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:27] Say it loudly then! [08:27] Does anybody use DVORAK here? [08:27] yes [08:27] ikey (n=ikey@92.40.55.251.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:27] I would imagine that this would be the place [08:28] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-167-34.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:28] to find another [08:28] dvorak isnt an acronym though.. its a name.. so shouldnt be capitalised [08:28] arcaos___ (n=arcaos@190.177.179.175) joined ##slackware. [08:28] I used to but give up. [08:28] He told me to say things loudly [08:28] caps means loud [08:28] _he_ was joking [08:29] Anybody know much about patching with kernel with fbcondecor and using splash-utils on Slackware? [08:29] jesus christ, plz2stop correcting retarded errors [08:29] yoyoyo: what's the problem? [08:30] Do people come here for Slack help? [08:30] Dunno. First time I ever come here [08:30] Yes, sometimes! [08:31] no, they come here for underwater basket weaving lessons [08:31] ooooh [08:31] *wants* [08:31] yoyoyo: To help and be helped. [08:31] I have had bad experiences with nerd IRC places. [08:31] Too condescending [08:31] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.166.139) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:31] Labeling it as 'nerd irc places' doesn't help your cause much.. [08:31] yoyoyo: there may be two sides to that issue [08:32] Frsutration? [08:32] *Frustration [08:32] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.231) joined ##slackware. [08:32] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [08:33] sweetandy (n=sweetand@c-98-237-235-242.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [08:34] i got some alerts while installing SB wxcam [08:34] configure.cpp:60: error: ‘wxPROPSHEET_SHRINKTOFIT’ was not declared in this scope [08:34] yoyoyo (i=7cbb338e@gateway/web/freenode/x-dffea762edbbcf22) left irc: "Page closed" [08:34] i have wxwidgets [08:36] Why is it slackware sees /dev/sda as /dev/hda? [08:36] ikey: is it sata? [08:36] I had to replace lilo with grub2 and edit my fstab before I could boot my new kernel :/ [08:36] Zordrak, afaik [08:36] ikey: Is it a sata drive or not? [08:36] ikey, why? s/hda/sdaa/g /etc/lilo.conf [08:36] sda * [08:36] i think youll find its PATA and its actually *other* distro that are falsely labelling it as sda rather than hda [08:37] thrice`, lilo wouldn't boot the new kernel, it expected /dev/sda. /dev/hda doesnt exist in the new kernel [08:37] lilo wouldnt let me have root=/dev/sda as my kernel parameter [08:37] So I cheated by symlinking hda to sda while i reinstalled lilo [08:37] But it still wouldnt have it [08:37] strange, mine changed from hda -> sda awhile back, but certainly not the other way around in a long while [08:38] So I built grub2, edited fstab and booted into the new kernel [08:38] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@90.47.73.101) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:38] of course a symlink wouldn't work... lol [08:38] Back to sda, but then my sound decided it didnt exist [08:38] thrice`, No but I cheated to make lilo think sda was hda, but then removed it just to boot the kernel [08:38] ikey alsaconf [08:38] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [08:38] usr13, no good [08:38] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [08:38] I only have pcspkr as a sound device in the new kernel [08:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-167-117.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:38] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [08:39] the 'falsly' is a misnomer. it's simply a change in naming scheme, where 's' no longer stands for scsi [08:39] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [08:39] Same config worked on Debian and Mint [08:39] it applies to usb, firewire, pata, etc. [08:39] it was a kernel change, around 2.6.24 iirc [08:40] ikey: You seem to be trying to customize your slackware install and go outside the normal configurations. [08:40] Well I got 2.6.29 as default kernel in slackware [08:40] But i need 2.6.31.4 [08:40] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:40] ikey: What are you trying to do>? [08:40] mitchx (n=mitchx@chello089077133211.chello.pl) left irc: "leaving" [08:40] Long story short I need newer usbserial modules and fan support [08:40] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@76.109.186.164) joined ##slackware. [08:40] apparently theres a long time null pointer exception that will be fixed in 2.6.32 [08:41] But I had 2.6.31.4 working on several installs.. [08:41] I know it works well with my hardware (or lack thereof) [08:41] spook, nope, that's the same one. just raise the min_addr and you're done. [08:41] slava_dp: oh, really? [08:41] spook, afair. [08:41] yus it is [08:42] oh okay. [08:42] its just REALLY old news suddenly hitting /. [08:42] lol sounds bout right [08:42] no no, this is old news hitting a fellow linuxpmi dev [08:42] eo6b (n=eo6b@ver60-1-88-167-237-207.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [08:42] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:42] delt0r (n=delt0r@80-123-51-249.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:42] what's strange, is that these old-new /. news have hit russian news sites yesterday too. [08:43] Anybody here succeeded at getting splash-utils working in Slack? [08:43] nobody *thinks* these days. [08:43] Just the last few customizations I wanna make [08:43] thinking is way too much effort. [08:43] lol [08:43] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.127) left irc: Connection timed out [08:44] Took far too much effort getting openbox working on my system.. [08:44] Slim DM, openbox, tint2, firestarter, thats all i wanted [08:44] Had to build most of the gnomelibs [08:44] (for firestarter) [08:44] why firestarter? [08:44] ikey: using slackbuilds.org? [08:44] Dunno I like it thrice` [08:44] spook, Most of it was slackbuilds [08:44] seems out of place, but oK :) [08:44] ikey: good, most of the gnome stuff is done for you :) [08:45] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Connection timed out [08:45] yeah just getting the order of stuff right was annoying [08:45] "Missing dependency" ? here we go again ^^ [08:45] slim wouldn't work normally though which I found strange [08:46] Had to edit the global .xinitrc and copy it to my ~ directory [08:46] Can't see why it would even use ~/.xinitrc in runlevel 4 but hey.. [08:47] Oh and if anyone here is ever thinking of using mobile broadband with Slackware don't xD [08:47] Action: ikey hates chatscripts.. [08:47] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:48] just to clarify you mean getting internet through a cellphone company right? [08:48] no [08:48] ikey: I have a set of LXDE packages ready, which includes OpenBOX [08:48] Mobile broadband, as in the 3G network via a usb modem (dongle) [08:48] Mines 3G+ so more headaches [08:48] ah [08:48] alienBOB, Nice :) [08:49] xovan, I basically ran pppsetup and lied to it [08:49] ikey: those are quite a pain on linux. [08:49] I did not have to build "a lot of gnomelibs" though [08:49] Then edited the scripts it generated after finding the right init strings [08:49] alienBOB, no openbox didnt need it. only firestarter [08:49] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-185-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:49] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [08:49] Why would anyone need firestarter [08:49] ;-) [08:49] coz i like it xD [08:49] was too lazy to use iptables directly [08:50] spook, Actually I found mobile broadband to work flawlessly with gnome [08:50] Action: Zordrak is off to the chippy for fish'n'chips [08:50] nm-applet (network-manager-gnome) [08:50] Zordrak, best with curry sauce or gravy [08:50] Installing half of gnome to get an iptables script is.... weird [08:50] ikey: depends on the chippy [08:50] alienBOB, I know I'll need em again though [08:50] ikey: yeah with networkmanager its not bad, but nm is a piece of turd. [08:50] I use gtkmm and C++.. [08:50] ikey: the really good ones.. adhding sauce just detracts from the awesomeness [08:50] Zordrak, true [08:51] Zordrak, depends what part of UK your in though lol [08:51] delt0r (n=delt0r@80-123-51-239.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Action: Zordrak is about to be in the part where the chippy is.. ttfn [08:51] lolz ttyl [08:52] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:54] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [08:55] I think slack would look pretty cool with default fbcondecor kernel... [08:55] just a passing observation.. [08:56] Yeah it would look more like ubuntu then, probably [08:56] Um no [08:56] Ubuntu doesnt use the framebuffer by default [08:56] switch to KMS :) [08:56] ubuntu doesnt do a lot of useful things, by default. [08:56] lol true [08:56] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [08:56] penyunet (n=tamingsa@211.234.119.5) left irc: [08:56] Karmic is complete and utter fail.. [08:56] *resists urge to whinge* [08:57] whinge in #ubuntu, not here [08:57] nah i hate that place [08:57] Nick change: chipster_ -> chipster [08:57] overrun with fools, thuggish trolls and an army of bots [08:58] grub2 with the gfxmenu patch works quite well in slack btw [08:59] alienBOB, oh i had a question for you and now i can't recall it [09:01] alienBOB, ah yes. I was trying desperately to use pkgtool to install some sets to a usb stick and i couldn't make it do anything at all. Let's say that i had the set directories (a, ap, l, n) etc under /media/disk/slackware and i wanted to install set "a" to /media/usbslack. What is an appropriate command? [09:01] ikey (n=ikey@92.40.55.251.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) left irc: "brb" [09:01] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.214.15) left irc: ""Bóra"" [09:01] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:02] alienBOB, I tried su -c "pkgtool --sets #A --source_dir /media/disk/slackware/ --target_dir /media/usbslack/" and had no luck [09:03] hiptobecubic: why not installpkg *.txz? [09:04] there's some key to define destdir %) [09:04] neat command, but why not something simple? installpkg -root /media/usbslack /med/distk/slackware/a/*.t?z [09:04] pktool >> current dir >> and fallow the steps [09:04] pkgtool* [09:04] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-114-101.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:04] john_dee, more user friendly =P [09:04] but what is the poing of the commandline args on the man page then? [09:05] not sure. I have only used pkgtool ~5 times ever, I think :P [09:05] It looks so handy, i really wanted to see it working :D [09:05] wow, my "/med/disk/slackware" is way off [09:05] thrice`, lol [09:05] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [09:06] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [09:07] Here's another puzzle. I am using lilo to boot the usb. If i set lilo.conf to use "root=LABEL=usbslack" it doesn't find it. I figured the way around it is to make an initrd with `blkid` to identify disks and get the /dev entry. I make an initrd and test it out BEFORE putting anything in it. Nothing in /bin, no modules, nothing. It works. [09:07] guax: too many lettaz to read and keys to press, when one command does the trick ^) [09:09] and who said user friendly is good :p [09:09] fAu (n=fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [09:09] the initrd is just about 200 symlinks pointing at busybox, no kernel modules, nothing in /lib. I just made it clean with "mkinitrd -c -m 2.6.29.6-smp -f /dev/sdb2 -r ext2" and then booted it in qemu [09:13] oh nevermind [09:13] doesn't work [09:15] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:16] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:16] Axius (n=fd@92.85.210.13) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:17] Debian-user (n=Debian-u@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Hello, [09:18] Which plugin is required to play .mp3 files ? Is it libxine or xine-libs ? [09:18] Only .mp3 files [09:18] Is it gstreamer-plugins-good/bad/ugly or other ? [09:18] depends where you are trying to play them [09:18] amarok [09:19] Debian-user: amarok has multiple bxackend support [09:19] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-nxffkthnfajcfitq) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:19] lol :/ [09:19] your username makes me cry a little inside. [09:20] acidchild: Huh, [09:20] acidchild: Why ? [09:20] acidchild: heh [09:20] lol :P [09:21] Can't get the specific answer ? [09:21] . [09:21] Which is that plugin. [09:21] Zordrak, answered you i think [09:21] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [09:21] yes, just use mp3 to use a command line with amaroks backend... [09:21] from firefox [09:22] Debian-user: 14:19:19 < Zordrak> Debian-user: amarok has multiple bxackend support [09:22] Action: tewmten slaps acidchild around [09:22] it might be gstreamer's plugin ore it might be xine-lib [09:22] depends which you intend using [09:22] brb [09:23] tewmten: hihi! =] [09:23] smokie [09:23] brb [09:23] this update is taking forever, feels like i'm redownloading the whole OS [09:24] It's playing .mp3 files fine.Just want to know which is that specific plugin ? [09:24] Debian-user: 'course it helps that xine-lib is part of slackware, whereas the gst plugins are not [09:24] Is it bxackend or backend ? [09:24] back-end [09:24] its not a plugin! [09:25] acidchild: It's a package. Right ? [09:26] acidchild: Or a .mp3 decoder [09:26] its an action firefox does to export the file to a program that will open it. [09:26] Debian-user, try "libmad" [09:28] the backend is for the method used to play audio generally, not specific to a file format [09:29] and yes, your nick does suck [09:29] and simultaneously blow [09:29] hehe [09:30] hehe [09:30] lory (n=lory@151.81.173.184) joined ##slackware. [09:30] lory (n=lory@151.81.173.184) left irc: Client Quit [09:31] Does this nick "Slackware-user" suck too ? [09:31] mmm... [09:31] Debian-user, yes. [09:31] kind of, but I guess it'd be more appropriate given the environment [09:31] SIGBUS__ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:31] Nick change: hiptobecubic -> GUY_AT_COMPUTER [09:31] Debian-user: heh... [09:32] Debian-user, what are you trying to do exactly? Is it working or not? [09:32] Nick change: Zordrak -> HumanWithNetwork [09:32] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] lolol [09:32] lol [09:33] Nick change: Debian-user -> Slackware-user [09:33] :< [09:33] Nick change: GUY_AT_COMPUTER -> WOMAN_AT_COMPUTE [09:33] SIGBUS__ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:33] lol fail [09:33] brb [09:33] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.176.161) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [09:33] Nick change: WOMAN_AT_COMPUTE -> MAN_AT_COMPUTER [09:34] Nick change: HumanWithNetwork -> Zordrak [09:34] you guys are funny [09:34] MAN_AT_COMPUTER: It's working from 2008. [09:34] sigh. [09:34] Slackware-user, then what are you trying to do? [09:34] SIGBUS__ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:35] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] arcaos_ (n=arcaos@host-12-205-154.linksat.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:36] anyone know a good resource for detailed lvm2 info? The howto is insanely vague and most other docs i can find are not interested in (eg) different PE size choices.. they dont go much further that detailing an example of throwing multiple PVs into an LV [09:36] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.176.161) joined ##slackware. [09:36] well... I'm back [09:36] ^^ [09:37] Nick change: Slackware-user -> Debian-user [09:37] acidchild: Hello [09:37] yes? [09:37] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:38] Nick change: MAN_AT_COMPUTER -> hiptobecubic [09:38] why the fuck are you messaging me? [09:38] lol [09:38] have i shown any indication that i like you in the slightest so far? [09:39] Well this has gone rather sour [09:39] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:39] fight fire with fire. =] [09:39] Action: metrofox will brb [09:39] Action: acidchild covers hiptobecubic in iceing sugar [09:39] :D [09:40] acidchild: Is gstreamer enough to play .mp3 files ? [09:40] Debian-user, do you have libmad installed? [09:40] lame? [09:40] mplayer? [09:40] xmms? [09:40] vlc? [09:40] mpg123? mpg321? [09:41] Debian-user, why don't you just run it in a terminal and wait for it fail and tell you what it wants? [09:41] why so many questions? [09:41] giuppy (n=giuppy@host203-251-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [09:41] Debian-user, mp3 "justworks" out of the box, so your question is pretty vague. [09:41] so true [09:41] how about, "i'm trying to play mp3's on some-other-crappy distro, and it's not working," or, "I thought I was smart by not doing a full install, and now mp3's don't play" [09:42] bhaha :D [09:42] thrice`: No, libmad is not installed. [09:42] thrice`, i feel like the second is most likely [09:42] or "i didnt tried because i assumed mp3 dont work by default" [09:42] acidchild: kaffeine [09:42] omfg ;< [09:42] acidchild: amarok [09:42] Debian-user, libmad is from the "l/" series, why didn't you install that? [09:42] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:43] Debian-user, why don't you just apt-get reinstall amarok and go take a dump. It should work when you come back [09:43] guax: Yes, lame seems to be installed , libmp3lame0 [09:43] aha! GFTO [09:43] we're not here to support debian [09:44] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-172.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:44] lulz [09:44] slackware builds against libmad [09:44] your on debian?? asking in ##slackware?? [09:44] GTFO [09:44] is he really using debian? [09:44] I think he's trolling us. [09:44] Debian-user, not to sound like a bunch of ogres, but we don't support Debian because no one wants to learn the quirks of every distro. Ask in #debian. [09:44] you think "libmp3lame0" is from anything else? :) [09:44] omg a trolll. poke it [09:44] thumbs: No, [09:44] maybe or is he really that stupid? [09:45] He's not stupid. You guys used to answer my ubuntu questions (after i sanitized them of course) :D [09:45] Relax guys... he's probably here 'cause he wants to switch to a better distro. ;^) [09:45] Debian-user, if you using slackware. install all the packages from l/ series in slackware cd. or go installing what the application ask for. and amarok uses xine as engine not gstreamer (by default) [09:45] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:45] Alan_Hicks: is that why your here? =] [09:45] Of course, there were never as silly as "my distro's packaging system is confusing me. which arbitrary bundle should i install?" [09:46] Hold on guys, [09:46] I have installed both slackware13 and debian lenny [09:46] I use both [09:46] It's not a factor with linux distribution, it's common linux issue [09:46] your question is about mp3's not working in lenny, though [09:46] Debian-user: Would you be kind enough to explain exactly what your problem is? [09:46] slackware13 does not use 'libmp3lame0' or whatever you claim to have installed. [09:47] bullshit it's not, libmad on slackware provides mp3 support [09:47] spoon feeding. [09:47] woo for Alan_Hicks .. wade in and bash some skulls [09:47] No skull bashing here please [09:47] I quite literally bashed a skull in last night. [09:47] It's playing .mp3 files fine, just tying to know the concept how linux plays .mp3 files, to clear my concept [09:48] Alan_Hicks: didnt get blood on v3 i hope.. ;) [09:48] Debian-user: That depends entirely on what program is being used to do the playing. Different applications could use different libraries. [09:48] Debian-user, it depends on the distro; there are a few ways mp3 support can be enabled. lots of the gnome stuff uses gstreamer, because it integrates nicely with packagekit, etc [09:48] azucarillo (n=azucaril@firewall1.cattid.uniroma1.it) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Debian-user: you started off talking about an issue, not asking to be educated on theory [09:48] Debian-user, it depends on the implementation. There is some library that can do it, libmad, libmp3-patch36-debianr4949-0 or whatever. [09:48] thrice`: Alan_Hicks : Yes, understood, thank you. [09:49] where as slackware simply compiles against libmad. for a binary distro, it really depends on how the specific distro chose to provide support [09:49] Hi all [09:49] Zordrak: No, but I did get some blood on my truck. [09:49] I have a problem on Slackware 13 on x86 [09:49] on a laptop with intel 945 [09:49] azucarillo: Ok. What is it? [09:50] acidchild: Debian-user never stated he had an issue. He just asked a question [09:50] Alan_Hicks I cant manage my screen brightness [09:50] Alan_Hicks: cool.. guess you can get back to it then :) [09:50] alienBOB: LOL [09:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] I'm using xfce and it's power manager brightness plugin tells me that does not find device [09:51] Zordrak: Yeap. That deer though won't be getting back to anything. [09:51] I also tried with xbacklight but it didn't work [09:51] awesome useful.. as hateful as RH-based anything is.. the LVM Administrator's Guide is pretty good [09:51] Alan_Hicks: not even a plate? [09:52] didn't RH invent lvm? :) [09:52] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [09:52] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-237-105.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:52] rh staff invented quite a large amount of the kernel.. so probably [09:53] azucarillo, i have a 945 xbacklight dont workd as well but i controll brightness by the keyboard keys [09:53] guax : I can't use keabord keys [09:53] Zordrak: No. Tore up too bad. I literally saw the deer flying through the air after the impact. [09:53] azucarillo, =( [09:53] FreeBSD had it first, hard to say if they used code from there or not [09:53] azucarillo: That's most likely an ACPI issue and depends largely on the particular laptop model. [09:54] I have a samsung nc10 [09:54] Actually I think SunOS had LVM long before BSD or Linux, but I could be wrong. [09:54] sweet.. Deerball world championships here you come [09:54] 945 uses and intel ich7 chipset [09:54] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:55] guax : you think I'm missing some driver? [09:55] dont think so [09:55] Zordrak: Yeah, it was awesome. First time I've hit a deer (believe it or not), and I immediately wanted to do it again. Was fun like you wouldn't believe. [09:55] heehee [09:55] if I try lshal I have no laptop_panel section [09:55] did it damage the truck? [09:56] thrice`: Broke one little plastic piece around the driver's side headlight. [09:56] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [09:56] hmm.. toyota hilux? [09:56] azucarillo: Do you get any messages in /var/log/acpid when you press those brightness keys? [09:56] Zordrak: HUH? [09:57] nm [09:57] Alan_Hicks : I don't have that log file [09:57] Zordrak: http://tinyurl.com/ycu7kwe [09:57] azucarillo, perhaps intel doesnt implemented the brightness control in randr of intel driver [09:57] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-231-44.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] Action: Debian-user thinks acidchild is crying caz he is not child! [09:58] guaz I could do it with Kde4 [09:58] azucarillo: What about /var/log/messages? [09:58] guax sorry [09:58] natsufuku ga ii no desu! [09:59] humm [09:59] Zordrak: Except my truck is an '02 with the 444 diesel, regular cab, extended cab, 4x4, but that gives you an idea of just how big and heavy that front-end is on the truck. [10:00] chee, stepmania lyrics ? [10:00] :D [10:00] Alan_Hicks : nothing happens [10:00] hiptobecubic, from motteke ! [10:00] azucarillo: Hmm.... [10:00] stepmania to lucky star theme tune (*w*)b [10:01] I just tried with setpci [10:01] and it worked [10:01] azucarillo: Hmm? [10:02] Alan_Hicks: I typed setpci -s 00:02.1 F4B=FF [10:02] O_o [10:02] uia [10:03] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:03] thrice`: That was openSUSE (libmp3lame0 [10:04] Debian-user <--- troll [10:04] it's ok to have the swap in the root folder as a file? [10:04] Action: Debian-user *****************GFTO**************GTFO [10:05] what's a troll? [10:05] azucarillo: I'm not sure how to help you here. You may have to use setkeycodes here. [10:05] limac (n=chatzill@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:05] limac (n=chatzill@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [10:06] Azeotrope, http://www.google.com.ua/search?q=linux+swap+file+or+swap+partition [10:06] Guys, if you don't like Debian-user, just use /ignore. He isn't causing a big disturbance. So let it be. [10:06] Azeotrope: Troll means "linux expert" :) , are you troll ? [10:06] Debian-user, that's enough. [10:07] Azeotrope, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) [10:07] slava_dp, your google skills are lacking. the "or" should be all uppercase and between swap and file [10:07] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [10:07] tank-man, i meant what i wrote [10:08] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Client Quit [10:09] Alan_Hicks : thank you! [10:09] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [10:09] azucarillo: What for? [10:09] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:10] Alan_Hicks : for your attention :) [10:11] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-a8d5e6324e0959de) joined ##slackware. [10:12] i'm an ogre [10:13] Alan_Hicks, how's your progress on the slackbook v3? [10:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] slava_dp: Slow, but steady. [10:14] azucarillo (n=azucaril@firewall1.cattid.uniroma1.it) left irc: "BitchX is a flavored condom, all the women love it's taste" [10:14] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Does anyone here use debian ? [10:15] Alan_Hicks, good to hear that. v2 is really past the times now. wish you rapid progress :-) [10:15] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [10:15] how come the slackbook doesnt mention wicd for wifi but suggests editing txt file for hotspots you goto [10:15] tank-man, it's dated. [10:15] Reaver (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:15] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30A67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:16] fau_ (n=fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [10:16] tank-man: wicd wasn't around when that version was edited. [10:16] i see [10:16] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-7e882c8364342b5e) left irc: [10:17] Alan_Hicks, have you thought about some kind of 'rolling' slackbook? Perhaps just put an (accurate as of 13) at the top of an article? [10:18] Reaver (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Client Quit [10:18] hiptobecubic: Yes I have, but there are currently no such plans at this time. [10:20] vmhobbes (n=charissa@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Debian-user (n=Debian-u@unaffiliated/easy) left ##slackware. 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[10:23] "y" is the general purpose copy (yank) command. yy for the current line, y3y for the current line and the next three. y$ for yank from cursor to end of line, y3w for yanking three words, etc. [10:24] Debian-user: I've used Debian in the past. I'm only running Slackware now. [10:24] gdv, http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial.html -- my favourite thing :) pinned it to the wall. [10:24] togermano (n=togerman@c-71-192-237-171.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] fAu (n=fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:25] thanks slava_dp [10:25] Action: Zordrak now has a bound copy of the LVM Administrator's Guide [10:26] Zordrak, you printed it? [10:26] yupyup [10:26] hehe [10:26] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:26] 116 pages.. im not bleeding my eyes dry reading it on the screen [10:26] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:37] hello [10:37] hi [10:37] i have foo.sh in /etc/profile.d but it won't source at login [10:37] togermano (n=togerman@c-71-192-237-171.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!" [10:37] but works if i source it in terminal [10:38] is your terminal a login shell? [10:38] er, starting a login shell [10:38] what you mean [10:39] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [10:39] i have to either but source..../foo.sh to bashrc or issue it in terminal [10:39] in order to it to work [10:39] I mean, is your terminal starting a login shell? [10:39] and what about the other files in profile.d dir [10:39] the same? [10:39] they work [10:39] others are default files [10:41] mm [10:41] what are the permissions on the file? [10:41] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root [10:43] pppo (i=0@ip-95-220-133-148.bb.netbynet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:44] ls -l /etc/profile.d? [10:44] ls -l /etc/profile.d/foo.sh [10:44] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@87-126-169-48.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:44] hi all [10:44] how to run KDE at system startup ? [10:45] mihaylov: run xwmconfig, select KDE [10:45] Then run startx [10:45] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-11-06 16:27 profile.d [10:45] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1332 2009-11-06 13:12 autojump.bash [10:45] stillborn: let it end in .sh [10:46] hmm [10:46] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:46] yes, i noticed it now [10:46] i'll test [10:46] alienB0B tnx man [10:46] You said "foo.sh" but it is something with .bash ... how nice to give wrong info [10:46] yes, there is 2 files [10:46] sh and bash [10:47] Does the .sh file work? [10:47] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:47] Is that .sh script executable ? [10:47] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@87-126-169-48.btc-net.bg) left irc: "("...");" [10:47] well in README it says to put those files there [10:47] does it contain #!/bin/sh header? [10:47] and yes, executable [10:47] stillborn: that is correct. So what is the content? [10:48] rlood (n=rlood@93.139.110.105) left irc: [10:48] sh seems to just check the bash enviroment [10:49] mitchx: the profile.d scripts do not need the "#!/bin/sh" [10:49] They are sourced by /etc/profile [10:49] nmoura (n=nmoura@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [10:49] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:49] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [10:50] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [10:50] stillborn (n=stillbor@88.193.113.46) joined ##slackware. [10:51] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-151-95-122.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:53] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@87-126-169-48.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:53] alienBOB , that was not what i was asking about [10:53] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-116-120.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:54] mihaylov, you need to edit the file /etc/inittab [10:54] you need to change the runlevel [10:55] http://pastebin.com/mdbc1f37 [10:55] http://pastebin.com/m4751fea1 [10:55] those are the files in profile.d [10:56] initab says wise things, [10:56] alienBOB, Sorry if you responded earlier and i missed it, but what do you think is wrong here? I was trying desperately to use pkgtool to install some sets to a usb stick and i couldn't make it do anything at all. Let's say that i had the set directories (a, ap, l, n) etc under /media/disk/slackware and i wanted to install set "a" to /media/usbslack. I tried su -c "pkgtool --sets #A --source_dir /media/disk/slackware/ --target_dir /med [10:56] ia/usbslack/" and had no luck [10:57] and it starts to work if i do "source /etc/profile.d/autojump.bash in terminal or add that to .bashrc [10:58] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] ishmae1 (n=marcoant@200.202.122.5) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:00] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:01] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [11:02] echo $ENV ? [11:07] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-114-101.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:08] wth ? [11:08] hy (i=cenobite@silver.zuinigerijder.com) got netsplit. [11:08] sinkigobopo_ (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) got netsplit. 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[11:16] stygian: packages.slackware.it [11:16] built-in kinda to firefox [11:17] cmair (n=cmair@dns.sad.it) left irc: "leaving" [11:17] grep /var/log/packages/* [11:17] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [11:17] I had firefox working on a previous install but now, ive instaleld *everything* in l x and xap but something off [11:17] stygian: did you ldconfig [11:18] not previously but i have yes. i already read something about seamonkey-solibs in ld.so.conf messing it up so i removed that and reran it but it didnt work. so i put it back [11:18] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:18] also, minimum installs have this problem when you dont know what you're doing. [11:18] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:18] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [11:19] fau_ (n=fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:19] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [11:19] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] guess i'll just use seamonkey. [11:21] yeah i guess you will. you'd be better off getting firefox working. [11:23] well of course [11:23] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.65.119) joined ##slackware. [11:23] Action: spook braces for the massive netsplit [11:24] hiptobecubic: still having troubles with the install on usb? [11:24] Camarade_Tux, :D actually its acting very strangely. largely because i don't understand initrd very well i think [11:24] stygian: avoiding the issue will just make things worse [11:25] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [11:25] hiptobecubic: what's with initrd? [11:25] there are quite a few having troubles with the new firefox [11:25] Camarade_Tux, as it sits right now, it can boot in qemu fine, but in a different computer it fails and says "couldn't find /mnt in fstab" [11:25] I have to say I'd prefer to avoid initrds here, I never made one and this isn't the best setting for a first time :D [11:25] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:25] hiptobecubic: /mnt? [11:25] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] Camarade_Tux, in order to make it find the usb stick reliably, i had to come up with a way to identify it without knowing the /dev/ node [11:25] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:26] oh yeah, that's one of the problem with usb keys, I shouldn't have troubles with that hopefully [11:26] Camarade_Tux, after reading around and fiddling with it, it looks like all you can do is pass an initrd with `blkid` in it and use that to find the rootdev [11:26] nooooooooo! [11:26] Camarade_Tux, but i don't realllly know what i'm doing here. soo i'm not sure what the hell is going on [11:26] upgrade to -current but I can't rsync from here! ='( [11:27] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-172.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:27] hiptobecubic: he ;p [11:28] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:28] "l/phonon-4.3.1-i486-1.txz: Removed." <- what happened? [11:28] things [11:28] keep reading [11:28] oh [11:28] Action: Camarade_Tux blames it on the headache [11:28] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:29] thrice`: actually I had read but that part but brain failing ;) [11:29] sounds painful [11:29] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:30] yeah, it is [11:30] mmm alcohol [11:31] that could fix it :D [11:31] JiMMyJaKAzz (n=waazzaab@206.162.161.156) joined ##slackware. [11:31] lo all? [11:31] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:32] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] question... looking for a good email filering service for slackware12.2. I know of spamassassin but one specifically for slackware and a stable one. [11:33] "specifically for slackware" is kind of dumb [11:33] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:33] there is none that i know of that was designed specificallyt for slackware - i don't even know what that means [11:33] cat to /dev/null? :) [11:34] ok, so slackware does not necessarily have a specific one, so than the question is [11:34] a email filtering service... [11:35] for everyone. [11:35] i am not aware of a filtering service that's been designed for everyone [11:35] Action: JiMMyJaKAzz thinks channel is on the rag this month [11:35] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] hahaha :P [11:36] just a simple question... [11:36] lulz [11:36] JiMMyJaKAzz: the channel is going down the tubes [11:36] I see. [11:36] you want distro specific stuff, try ubuntu :) [11:36] benagain (n=jessen@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:37] benagain (n=jessen@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: Client Quit [11:37] tank-man, well not really specific.. I am using slackware 12.2 and I want to promote it. I want to mount slackware for mail spam filtering. [11:38] sigh [11:38] JiMMyJaKAzz: Just pick whatever you want to use. [11:38] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:38] picking and asking those who have used with remarks would be better than blindly picking [11:38] spook: lvm is not entirely as flexible as it seems [11:39] Zordrak: oh? [11:39] In all honesty, probably the best "spam" filters are right there in whatever mail server you want to use. You can reject the vast majority of spam with no false positives without a content filter beyond spamhaus. [11:39] maximum of 65536 PEs per PV. I only have one PV which is 2.8TB [11:39] Alan_Hicks, hmmmm.. [11:39] sounds positive. [11:39] ok, tabula rasa might be best. let's ignore your first few "questions" and imagine instead you asked something like "what's a good spam filter for linux" [11:40] mancha, yes [11:40] so i must have a MINIMIM of 44MB per PE [11:40] Zordrak: whats a pe [11:40] where the default is 4 [11:40] to this i would suggest spamassassin [11:40] stygian (i=stygian@69.149.152.230) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:40] physical extent (logical block on a disk) [11:40] I'd suggest zen.spamhaus.org along with some basic helo cheks and the like. [11:41] Zordrak: i have a 2tb PV and no problems [11:41] it has proven success in its bayesian implementation. if you pipe 1000+ emails through it, it is quite "smart" [11:41] mancha: It is, but it's also quite slow. [11:41] not in my experience [11:41] spook: whats your PE size? [11:41] mancha: spam assassin can bring a busy mail server to its knees. [11:41] how can i find out [11:41] anyways, rbls are also an option (or a complement). there are several publically available rbls out there that flag spam hosts [11:42] pvs i guess [11:42] pvdisplay -v [11:42] s0d0 (n=bggr@86.175.233.172) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Nick change: Dominian -> BOFH [11:42] pe size kbyte 4096 [11:42] i have plenty of 2TB pvs with 32MB size, etc. [11:42] Depending on your hardware, I've seen average times for spam assassion approaching 1 second per e-mail. [11:43] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-b4268aaab61490c3) joined ##slackware. [11:43] And of course, how stringent you want SA to filter your mail. [11:43] hmm, awesome. windows 7 installer got the resolution of this lappy right [11:43] kamaji (n=kamaji@94-169-106-21.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:43] wow, kde 4.3.3 already in slackware current! who ever is responsible...great job :-D [11:43] spook: nono pvdisplay i think [11:44] sony's vaio are pretty funny, on those with win7, explorer.exe crashes when you right-click [11:44] yus yus pvdisplay [11:44] Zordrak: test [11:44] ananke: buh? [11:44] mancha, Alan_Hicks, hmmm, since time is not on my side, I will need to mount this asap... [11:44] Zordrak: that was pvdisplay [11:44] Zordrak: just checking whether you had me on ignore :) 11:42 ananke> pvdisplay -v [11:44] hey slackers, anybody know how to do Chinese input in X? I'm looking at xcin but it seems old [11:44] lol.. head deep in book [11:45] Zordrak: its 4096K [11:45] JiMMyJaKAzz well now you have two differing opinions, i like SA and Alan doesn't. you can either flip a coin or test it out yourself i guess. [11:45] spook: then you surely cant fill your whole VG .. :/ [11:45] SCIM? [11:45] mancha: For the record, I am using SA at some locations. [11:45] Zordrak: i'm sure he can :) [11:45] finally [11:45] Zordrak: really? [11:46] Zordrak: unless you're talking about lvm1, which had a lot of limitations in that aspect [11:46] Nick change: BOFH -> Dominian [11:46] ananke: do you know anything i dont about the max nubxer of PEs per PV? [11:46] pvs says, Fmt is lvm2 [11:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [11:47] i am having trouble finding simwple documentation on the limits [11:47] Zordrak: i've seen comparisons between lvm1 and lvm2 which discuss a lot of limits, but not sure where [11:47] from the sounds of it here its between spamassassin or spamhaus. [11:47] ishmae1 (n=marcoant@200.202.122.5) left ##slackware. [11:48] the latter is a blacklist, very different concepot [11:48] the only stuff i can find *suggests* that lvm2 has a limit of 65536 PEs per PV [11:48] kamaji (n=kamaji@94-169-106-21.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [11:48] *concept [11:48] Zordrak: easy way to test it :) [11:49] Action: JiMMyJaKAzz thinks channel had a small moment of rag but must of been a small rag hickup. Slackware still #1.. :) [11:49] JiMMyJaKAzz: way to alienate yourself. [11:49] ananke: not sure if you have to fill it to test it.. ie actually get it to try the allocations rather than just init the PV [11:49] the first is: a) email offers penis enlargement therefore it is spam and the second is b) email comes from im-a-bad-guy.com so it must be spam [11:49] Camarade_Tux, i'm an idiot as usual :D I forgot to 'sleep' while the usb devices are being probed [11:50] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Zordrak: hmm, i'm trying to think if i have anything on hand to test it with. Free PE / Size 323678 / 9.88 TB [11:50] this unfortunately has bigger PEs than we'd need [11:52] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@194.187.72.253) joined ##slackware. [11:52] :win 4 [11:52] bah >< [11:54] hiptobecubic: hahaha :P [11:54] hiptobecubic: so, working now? [11:54] Camarade_Tux, about to test [11:55] Camarade_Tux, so.... no :D [11:55] ^^ [11:55] On the bright side, we can (ironically) add initrd to the list of things that slackware has taught me. [11:56] posted to #lvm -- lets see if i get a response [11:56] Man. how frustratining. Of course it was only booting in qemu... usb in qemu loads instantly. [11:56] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.65.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:57] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-104-217.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:57] aigon (n=jfo@92.85.220.151) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Action: Camarade_Tux pats hiptobecubic on the head [11:58] arcaos___ (n=arcaos@190.177.179.175) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:58] arcaos___ (n=arcaos@190.177.45.82) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Well now i'm confused again... i just WATCHED it load /dev/sdb{,1,2} ... but it still can't find /dev/sdb2 and dropped me to busybox. /dev/sdb* doesn't exist.... but i just SAW it load and get assigned a devnode [12:00] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:01] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-109-127.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Nevermind... wasn't waiting long enough :D [12:02] BOOYAH [12:02] mancha, Alan_Hicks, though spamhaus has criterias which might be an issue. 1.non commercial, 2. emailtraffic < 100,000/day 3. DNSBL query volume is < 300000/day [12:03] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-236-56.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Camarade_Tux, ok so lessons on installing remotely using installpkg. DON'T forget to write your own /etc/fstab. Don't forget to wait for root to initialize. [12:03] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [12:04] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:05] hiptobecubic: he, sure ;p [12:05] I had to rewrite fstab once >< [12:05] was on the same computer though... [12:05] infoman (n=ALL@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [12:05] i just forgot it completely for awhile. it usually is written automagically during setup :D [12:05] Hi :) [12:06] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:06] gapan (n=gapan@adsl154-157.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving." [12:07] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [12:08] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [12:08] I did something last night that i never thought i would be able to. I installed slackware64 and and crashed it [12:08] lol.. [12:08] i only made an upgrade then it crashed [12:09] but i will fix it soon, i think it might have installed the new bash from testing and that crashed it [12:10] nille_, soon as one of your 64bit servers becomes available I will test 64bit on that machine. [12:10] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [12:10] correction.. your = ours. [12:10] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [12:10] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: "leaving" [12:10] i'm having a lovely time with 64-current :) [12:11] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [12:12] i don't know what happend i got alot of bash errors and when i rebooted it wouldn't boot [12:13] so now i'm booting from the install dvd to fix it [12:14] alphad64 (n=quassel@213.136.96.104) joined ##slackware. [12:14] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Hi, can you tell me how show to SB script to look for header in some directory? [12:15] mancha, Alan_Hicks, I think spamassassin will be my route, after reading both. [12:15] hmm "INIT: cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc.S" M and 4 [12:15] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-225-73.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:15] whereis the .bashrc in slack ? [12:15] or .profile ? [12:15] ~/ just look in other distros [12:15] just like* [12:16] mihaylov, the global settings are in /etc [12:16] y i know [12:16] ? [12:16] mihaylov if you need them then create them [12:17] if you knew, why would you be asking? :) [12:17] it was going to be easier if they were present [12:17] i think he means $HOME/.bashrc [12:20] mihaylov: touch ~/.bashrc, easy enough [12:20] i am working on another shell i think [12:21] you think? so you don't know what your doing? [12:23] ok, copied my slackware source, gonna put the hard drive in the external enclosure [12:23] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-104-217.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:23] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:24] i am using bash, /etc/profile does not contain bash directives 0_o [12:24] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:24] why would it? [12:25] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:25] noooooooooooo! the hard drive I had in the enclosure has screws! I can't remove it! [12:25] how does one make firefox the default browser instead of Konqueror? [12:25] Camarade_Tux: Well then, you're....um....screwed. :P [12:26] fire|bird: yeah, I nearly said that the hard drive was screwed :D [12:26] haha [12:26] no screwing on friday, thats bad for you ;) [12:26] hey nille_, how's it going? [12:26] well i messed up the slackware64 install i made yesterday [12:27] ouch, how'd you do that? [12:27] alphad64 (n=quassel@213.136.96.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:27] horray for the knife! [12:27] how does one make firefox the default browser instead of Konqueror? [12:27] gnoel, are you using slackware 13 and kde ? [12:27] yes, 32bit [12:28] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: "Saindo" [12:28] System Settings > Default applications [12:29] Camarade_Tux, well this is a success :D... now to actually put some software on it [12:29] he, give me a moment, I removed 2 screws out of 4 ;) [12:30] i only ran 'slackpkg update' and 'slackpkg upgrade-all' [12:30] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-163-49.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] alphad64 (n=alphad64@213.136.96.104) joined ##slackware. [12:30] nille_: and then *kaboom*? :P [12:30] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:30] Scuzz: cannot find System Settings > Default applications [12:30] I AM DECLARING WAR. [12:30] clcik on the kde icon in the bottom left corner [12:30] i can see that got your attention [12:30] then you will see system settings [12:31] spook: ON WHO? oh yeah, NO CAPS. :) [12:31] spook: again? :D [12:31] beluga (n=ndv@62.122.105.23) joined ##slackware. [12:31] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:31] it crowd [12:31] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] Scuzz: found it somehow [12:31] he, my 500GB hard drive is definitely lighter than my 1TB one [12:31] fire|bird yes it screwed up bash i think [12:32] thanks all for the info, I will continue to mount this service and give feedback... thanks again mancha, Alan_Hicks.. cheers. [12:32] JiMMyJaKAzz (n=waazzaab@206.162.161.156) left ##slackware. [12:32] nille_: Ah, you didn't by chance select a 32bit mirror instead of 64bit one, did you? :) [12:32] Scuzz: that did it. Thanks so much. [12:32] np [12:32] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:33] fire|bird hmm i might have because i was very tired [12:33] gah, firefox won't die. [12:33] fau__ (n=fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:33] nille_: That's happened to a few people in here. :) [12:33] ok, partition the drive before mounting anything >< [12:33] fire|bird: The dreaded kill -9 :) [12:33] Nick_Patterson: tried it, it still won't die. [12:33] fire|bird well atleast i think you pointed me to the right answer [12:34] fire|bird: kill -10 ? :P [12:34] proticon (n=chatzill@71-8-193-174.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:34] wow , big update in current today [12:34] Nick_Patterson: Ah, there, it's dead now. :P [12:34] 'killall -9 firefox-bin' [12:35] He tried that. [12:35] nille_: that didn't work, I had to use just kill instead of killall. [12:35] kill -9 process_id_here \o/ [12:35] ctrl+shift+esc [12:36] ctrl+alt+esc sorry [12:36] there was a bash man page :) [12:36] delt0r (n=delt0r@80-123-51-239.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:36] mihaylov: There still is :P [12:36] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:37] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:38] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.114) joined ##slackware. [12:39] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [12:39] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Camarade_Tux, have you ever used pkgtool with the --sets option? 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[12:50] So i think my laptop just turned off because it over heated... one core was at 71C after a restart.. so i guess that perhaps it [12:50] is there anyway to tell for sure? [12:50] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Im running slackware 12.?? crap.. forgot [12:51] sensors [12:51] delt0r, cat /proc/slackware-version [12:51] try /etc/slackware-version [12:52] beluga (n=ndv@62.122.105.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] Karu (n=alch@78-28-67-211.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [12:52] oops. yes [12:53] yea don't have one.. the last slamd64... 12.2 [12:53] Nick change: Dominian -> BOFH [12:53] man bash is huge [12:53] Nick change: BOFH -> Dominian [12:53] anyway the laptop have never overheated before... should i be concerned? [12:53] I was watching youtube at the time... [12:53] deltor , totally [12:53] ok - try 'cat /etc/slamd64-version" [12:53] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [12:54] its version 12.2 slamd64.. clean install... [12:54] delt0r: no, just clean it :p [12:54] it doen't look like there is any dust in the vents etc... [12:55] it never looks like it but it is there ^) [12:55] after some time [12:55] I would think that the power managment would slow the cpu down once it got hot? [12:55] john_dee: k, I will give a good clean [12:55] Dominian: so it's you who own the BOFH nick on freenode? [12:56] Camarade_Tux: yeah.. FINALLY [12:56] hahaha :P [12:57] how come you managed to get it? [12:57] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-b4268aaab61490c3) left ##slackware. [12:57] turns out the BOFH works at my college [12:58] darkstar (n=darkstar@67-213-111-178.amtelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] he deleted the whole of second year one day [12:58] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. 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[13:18] hello, does someone know where to find a torrent or something for slackware 12.2 cd2? torrent or DD wud be fine :) [13:18] Monev, all of the mirrors. slackware.cs.utah.edu for example [13:20] thx, i was already downloading the whole dvd thought i was gonna wait years to download, thanks again :) [13:21] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:21] psone (n=psone@86-124-79-037.iasi.cablelink.ro) joined ##slackware. [13:22] darkstar (n=darkstar@67-213-111-178.amtelecom.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:23] Hello. What is the default value of PS1 on Slackware ? [13:23] PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ ' [13:24] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [13:24] Unless using csh or some derivitive in which case PS1 is unset. [13:25] alisonken1home: I thank you. [13:25] psone (n=psone@86-124-79-037.iasi.cablelink.ro) left ##slackware. [13:25] np [13:25] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:26] Monev (n=Monev@adsl-72-50-63-110.prtc.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [13:26] anyone tried the latest fglrx? I'm tempted to get faster desktop effects but the last one was bad - wouldn't run [13:27] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-232-24.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] r--t (n=root@ppp079166034081.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Action: adamk_ avoids fglrx at all costs. [13:28] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [13:29] Having said that, I did try 9.9 on Slackware 13, but nothing newer. [13:29] adamk_ probably wise - any top tips for speeding up compositin on radeon? [13:29] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-109-127.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:30] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-163-49.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:30] td0s: What card do you have? [13:31] x300 pretty old but works - tbh wish I had nvidia [13:32] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Oh, well just so you know, fglrx will never work with that card again. [13:32] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:32] The best advice I can give is to make sure that you are using EXA instead of XAA. I don't honestly remember what it defaults to in Slackware 13. [13:32] I think I can only do effects with xrender and they're dog slow so I disabled them, no big loss I guess [13:33] You should be able to do kde desktop effects via opengl. [13:33] td0s: What is the output of 'glxinfo | grep -i render' ? [13:33] I set it to EXA, don't know if this is possible but would be good to get opengl working as I think it will be quicker than xrender [13:34] direct rendering: Yes [13:34] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL [13:35] I've enabled some extra functionality in xorg.conf but still unusable as it stands [13:36] What happens if you try to use the opengl option in the kde desktop effects? [13:37] I think it crashed horribly and I had to turn the option off in the config file, might be fun to try again [13:37] Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? [13:37] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Your glxinfo looks normal. [13:37] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@mancomo.psi.ucm.es) left irc: "Leaving" [13:38] I'll pop the relevant bit up [13:38] Please do the whole thing :-) [13:39] creating an xfs filesystem, I see recommendation for setting lazy-count=1 and disabling write barriers, any comment on these? [13:41] td0s (n=toby@94-193-120-89.zone7.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:41] Action: mag0o has an x300 and just lets slackware magically make it work [13:42] i get around 1100 fps w/ glxgears [13:43] ...and now i realize im talking to someone that's gone [13:44] :) [13:44] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30A67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:44] (and i only realized that when his nick wouldnt tab complete) [13:44] Open your eyes mag0o. Oh, wait..... [13:44] Heh. [13:44] Have you tried the KDE desktop effects via opengl? [13:45] can't say i have, i run fluxbox [13:45] i can do 720p ota hd without issue in mythtv [13:46] nickstolen (n=insula@b4mad.info) left ##slackware. [13:46] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.176.161) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [13:48] what wo uld be the best way to share a mount [13:48] should i use nfs or what [13:48] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:48] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03F83.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:48] between 3 guests and one host obviously [13:49] bennymack (n=benb@24.75.15.14) joined ##slackware. [13:49] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:49] the new firefox package broke my gxine.. someone got the same problem? [13:49] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@87-126-169-48.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [13:49] giuppy (n=giuppy@host203-251-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:50] nvision, seems fine here [13:50] hey everybody! I have this problem basically everytime i upgrade.. I just went from 12.1 to 13.0 and I'm having trouble getting my dual head display working correctly. [13:51] I got the fglrx drivers from ATI for my Radeon 2400 and tried aticonfig a few times. [13:51] I think I was using xinerama before to get it to work. I think it has been replaced with xrandr? [13:52] I had an "Extensions" section with 'Option "Composite" "on"' [13:52] Zordrak: SYN [13:53] evening [13:53] acidchild: wake up you twit [13:53] giuppy (n=giuppy@host203-251-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [13:53] my video card has a DVI out that's split to two VGAs to my LCD monitors [13:54] acidchild: sup dude [13:54] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [13:55] hey spook [13:55] giuppy (n=giuppy@host203-251-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Action: nachox bows [13:56] Action: tewmten sips some beer [13:56] zee german bier [13:57] warsteiner [13:57] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [13:57] mmm dinner [13:57] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [13:58] bennymack: Last time I tried xrandr with fglrx it had serious issues, so I used "Big Desktop" mode. [14:00] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-23-63.ip100.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [14:00] adamk_: OK. I'm game. I'll search for that unless you have any hints you could hand feed me ;) [14:00] Scuzz: could you tell me where /usr/lib64/libmozjs.so is linking to? [14:00] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:01] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:02] sahko (n=grbzks@ppp-94-68-251-23.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:03] bennymack: I'm trying to find the command to disable xrandr now. [14:04] I searched through the output of aticonfig for big desktop and I'm trying an example cmd [14:04] aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1 [14:05] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [14:06] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [14:06] same result with that one. [14:07] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.21.238) joined ##slackware. [14:07] hi [14:07] hi [14:07] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:09] bennymack: OK, this is what I did... I ran this command: [14:09] aticonfig --set-pcs-str="DDX,EnableRandR12,FALSE" [14:09] bennymack: I then started up X and used 'amdcccle' to configure the position of my monitors. [14:10] man... you have to REALLY know what you are doing to slimdown a slackware install. Turn off some obscure library and suddenly netstat doesn't work or who knows. :D [14:11] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:11] staying away from a and l will give best results :) [14:11] thrice`, ;) [14:11] thrice`, well right now... eth0 isn't showing [14:12] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-130-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:13] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-130-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:13] oh snap! adamk_ that worked! [14:13] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:13] I'm definitely gonna have to write that down. I'll never remember it [14:14] Yeah, not really intuitive. [14:14] Hopefully they will fix xrandr soon. [14:14] I did not need the amdcccle thing though. [14:14] i just restarted X and it worked [14:15] The previous aticonfig command you ran with --dtop=horizontal probably already did that part. [14:16] huh, so it was literally just that xrandr thing messing it up. that's a bummer. Oh well, at least I didn't waste *too* much time on it thanks to you [14:20] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Something screwy is going on here! I reinstalled Slack 13.0 with a different HDD and I still can't boot lilo. Somehow GRUB tries booting for some reason :\ [14:23] read the install help file [14:23] hrrrmm [14:23] :/ [14:24] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [14:24] pigdude (n=pigdude@pool-96-231-139-180.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] proticon (n=chatzill@71-8-193-174.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016081727]" [14:24] jescis: thats caused you installed GRUB in the MBR [14:24] s/caused/cause [14:25] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [14:25] sahko, how's that? I didn't see anything about it during install proceedures :\ [14:26] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik_rus|beer [14:26] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.93.17) joined ##slackware. [14:26] you should know better about whats the deal. i cant start guessing [14:26] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:27] the other hd must have grub or something [14:27] and the bios sees it first [14:28] the other one has data on it and is a sata disk :\ [14:28] fire|bird thanks for the pointer earlier, and you were right about what i did wrong but now it's fixed (no i didn't reinstall because what would i learn from that) [14:29] jescis: install lilo on mbr [14:30] I just installed a Samsung printer driver manually. On install, I got an error about writing the init.d script...judging by the shell function that failed, where should I put this script? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/149080/ [14:30] it fails on the first conditional [14:32] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "going to test... rebooting" [14:32] these are the contents of my rc.d: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/149082/\ [14:33] sorry, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/149082/ [14:34] gavin_ (n=gavin@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] darylc (n=darylc@166.205.131.73) joined ##slackware. [14:36] nille_: you're welcome, I'm glad you got it fixed. :) [14:37] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.132.8) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:37] well sometimes you do things wrong [14:38] HAHAHA! new firefox security release, AGAIN! [14:38] Camarade_Tux: and where's your browser! [14:38] deco: coming, coming [14:39] cricket[b] (i=cricket@ip98-164-87-51.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:39] forget FF, go with SeaMonkey. \o/ :P [14:39] yes i upgraded FF yesterday [14:39] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [14:39] deco: I guess you don't want to mailing-list messages mentionning libffi, ocaml, gcc, windows, ABI, sparc, big-endian architectures, 32bit vs 64bit and so on :) [14:39] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:39] Guestara (n=guestara@ppp-14.wlan.bsl.panline.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] psh, seamonkey sucks [14:40] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5457c96e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:40] thrice`: how so? [14:40] Camarade_Tux: where ? [14:40] hello! [14:40] can I ask some questions here? [14:40] fire|bird, haha, actually, I didn't use it more than making sure it works. the stock theme is pretty ugly :D [14:40] I'm tempted to say no but you could take it seriously, sure you can :P [14:40] Guestara, I don't know, is someone holding your fingers or soemthing? [14:41] :) [14:41] Action: thumbs is [14:41] thrice`: speaking of which, it will need to be built differently, as it is now, with those couple make lines commented out, it doesn't install the nss/nspr stuff, so other things like pidgin, rpm, gxine, etc. won't build against it. [14:41] NetNightmare (n=netnight@dynamic-adsl-94-37-232-79.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Camarade_Tux: wait you mean you're on all those mailing lists right ? [14:41] deco: well, it's almost done but there are a few annoying and mostly uninteresting things left >< [14:41] OK, I am using Slackware for some time, paralel with XP, as i want to learn Linux [14:41] Most of things I can do alone [14:41] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: "Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi" [14:41] Camarade_Tux: i'm gonna be the first one to try it right ? :P [14:41] deco: I meant my problem involved all these [14:41] at once... [14:41] oh [14:41] thrice`: that theme is ugly? worse than the netscape classic one that it's used for ages? :P [14:41] deco: nah, second :D [14:42] Camarade_Tux: why second ? who's first ? [14:42] :( [14:42] Action: Camarade_Tux ^^ [14:42] Is there any graphic tool to manage adsl (pppoe) connection, which need user and pass, or I have to do this from console [14:42] with pppoe-start [14:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Nick change: wertik_rus|beer -> wertik_rus|more| [14:47] vaibhav (n=landy@59.92.169.235) joined ##slackware. [14:48] gavin_ (n=gavin@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] Hi, I need to run a script when a computer resumes from sleep..where do i place the script? [14:49] And which video driver You recommend to use with mplayer (gl gives me the best picture but it is slow) I have ATI HD3200 on Slack 13 [14:49] Camarade_Tux, well i borked mine :D reinstalling. How did it go for you? [14:50] yo Camarade_Tux: whats up? [14:50] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.151) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Guestara, are you using a router connected to you adsl modem ? [14:51] bennymack (n=benb@24.75.15.14) left irc: "thanks everybody!" [14:51] No, just ethernet adsl modem [14:51] US robotics 9001 [14:51] hiptobecubic: installpkg finished three minutes ago [14:51] uhg [14:51] I was looking at xfs options [14:51] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [14:51] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [14:51] vaibhav, if you use pm-utils, check out /etc/pm/ [14:51] most routers jsut log you into adsl modems without the need of you entering a password all the time [14:51] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:52] no, this one don't have setup [14:52] Camarade_Tux, xfs? Why that? [14:52] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] hiptobecubic: performance :) [14:53] for the rootfs? [14:53] yup [14:53] guess I should chroot now [14:54] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:54] I now get "No Active partitions" even though it's supposed to be. :-( [14:54] thrice: so basically i put a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ and it will run when the computer resumes from sleep [14:54] And yes the boot flag is on /dev/hda1 -_- [14:55] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [14:56] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [14:56] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: "Leaving." [14:56] btw, anyone installed amarok 2.2 on Slackware 13? [14:56] vaibhav, pretty much :) http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils#Creating_your_own_hooks [14:58] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03F83.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] thrice`: thanks man, let me check this thing [14:59] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:00] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.214.15) left irc: ""See ya!"" [15:01] anyone catch my earlier question? [15:01] aigon (n=jfo@92.85.220.151) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] I just installed a Samsung printer driver manually. On install, I got an error about writing the init.d script...judging by the shell function that failed, where should I put this script? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/149080/ [15:03] thrice`: thank you it does work [15:03] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [15:04] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:04] pigdude that is an installer script [15:04] vaibhav, cool :) [15:04] thrice`: i had to reload the broadcomm driver, since it fails to connect to AP after the computer resumes from sleep [15:04] it cp's something to /etc/init.d/smfpd and then copies some binaries [15:05] vaibhav, a little cleaner, but in /etc/pm/config.d/modules (create it,) SUSPEND_MODULES="module" , and SLEEP_MODULE="module" work too [15:05] to take care of loading/unloading modules that cause issues [15:05] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [15:06] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] you might just want to manually put it into /etc/rc.d/init.d [15:07] Hey guys, for anybody that uses wireshark or tcpdump... anybody know if I can somehow extract the URL (domain only is ok) when an IP requests in their browser something like https://mail.google.com ? or is that just simply not possible? [15:08] the connection is encryoted, even the GET [15:08] Guestara (n=guestara@ppp-14.wlan.bsl.panline.net) left ##slackware. [15:08] so you would have to depend on the prior dns call [15:08] thrice`: i will look into that... for the time being this is also ok...since wicd wont reconnect to AP after resuming from sleep...so now i am able to reconnect to AP..... i will see if it however connects by itself [15:08] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:08] epaphus: if you use firefox, there's a internal extension that helps you on that [15:09] vaibhav, well, the hooks run according to numeric order, so be sure your module loading comes before the wicd hook :) [15:09] i think it's called "data tamper" extension or something like that, and it lets you view everything the browser is doing [15:09] anyonw know how to make $date update update every couple of seconds in xsetroot ? [15:09] utimately you'll see a dns lookup for mail.google.com and you'll also see a 443 encrypted connection to $some_ip [15:10] that's as good as it gets unless you mitm the conn [15:10] thrice`: i am just unloading and reloading the wl module in the hook, i assume wicd is already loaded by the acpi before calling the hooks [15:11] sid77 (n=sid77@moko.slackware.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:11] Nick change: wertik_rus|more| -> hmara|yoyo [15:11] rg3, thanks! [15:11] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:12] vaibhav, ah, ok. wicd installs its own pm-utils hook for reloading [15:12] mm, or pm-utils installs one for wicd, I can't remember / too lazy to look it up [15:12] rg3, right but thats before it gets encrypted. i need to know what the packet looks like and if can actually extract what i need [15:13] Nick change: Guest11613 -> pragma_ [15:13] rg3, thanks though [15:13] mancha, agreed [15:13] pigdude? [15:13] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [15:13] mancha, I know what it is and I understand everything it's doing [15:14] mancha, I was wondering if one could infer the rc.d location of this script from the installer's attempted init.d destination [15:14] "this script" being the init.d script that is installed [15:14] i don't think this install script is being put in rc.d it is being called once and thats it [15:14] I know, that was my original problem [15:15] as I said, the installer reported this error so I was going to manually put the script in the correct spot [15:15] gotcha [15:15] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] sorry if I presented it in a roundabout manner :) [15:15] thrice`: it must be that way only......since the module released by broadcomm has the discrepancy that it is not able to connect after resuming from sleep..so if it is connecting, hence pm-utils is relaoding before wl module [15:15] hmara|yoyo (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:15] thrice`: wicd installs the hook [15:16] the packet will look like a tls encypted packet. if it were easy to pry inside and see the plaintext it wouldn't be too popular as a form of encryption :) [15:16] mancha, I've read the docs page on rc.d dirs, but I wasn't 100% on which one matched. some like the rc.cups script are directly in rc.d [15:16] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:16] mancha, i was hoping that I could get only the domain name without being encrypted somehow [15:17] pigdude, the complicating thing here is the use of init.d which is a redhattish thing. slackware has that dir for compatibility purposes [15:17] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [15:17] phrag (n=phrag@217.10.145.3) left ##slackware. [15:17] phrag (n=phrag@217.10.145.3) joined ##slackware. [15:17] no, the domina name that is part of the url request is also increypted [15:17] mancha, oh, I guess my installation is lacking it [15:17] hey guys o/ [15:17] geez, my typing sucks, srry [15:17] (hope you could unencrypt my comment) [15:18] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [15:19] pibdude, what does ls -l /etc/init.d show? [15:20] and what is the error, exactly [15:21] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[15:28] pigdude: your Zenwalk problems should be solved by Zenwalk developers or their community, not by us [15:29] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [15:29] vaibhav, cool :) [15:29] hi phrag, how are you? [15:29] Obviously zenwalk does thingsquite differently from Slackware... [15:29] hi guys =) [15:29] very well thankyou [15:29] Hi blue! [15:29] alienBOB: thank you for providing so cool packages for slackware64 13.0 [15:29] Too busy these days phrag? [15:29] alienBlurb, I hoped my question was high-level enough to be relevant in this room [15:29] alienBOB, ^^ [15:30] alienBOB: just moved, bit hectic.. but settled now =) you good ? [15:30] monstro1 (i=1000@187.57.64.85) joined ##slackware. [15:30] monstro1 (i=1000@187.57.64.85) left irc: Client Quit [15:31] thrice`:thankyou so much for your help..... now i can run slackware w/o the need to unload and reload the modules again and again [15:31] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:31] of course - no problem :) [15:32] thrice`: so lets have a beer in celebration...i am having one :-) [15:32] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [15:33] I will rephrase: In a Slackware installation, where would one typically place a script that does parallel port handling. "It needs root privileges to use iopl(2), inb(2) and outb(2) system calls." This was distributed with a printer driver [15:33] beeer [15:33] at boot? [15:33] vaibhav, sure thing, though I'm still at work for a couple hours. I'll ask my boss [15:33] Camarade_Tux: you can't have any, you need to help someone first. [15:33] Camarade_Tux, an installer tried to put it in init.d but I didn't have it [15:33] /etc/rc.d [15:33] fire|bird: can I have one now? [15:33] Camarade_Tux, yea, I wasn't sure where to put in there...I thought maybe rc.M [15:34] I'm new to the BSD-style init [15:34] Camarade_Tux: eh, sure, alright. [15:34] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-130-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [15:34] thrice`: its all right, wait for two more hours and then the entire weekend is for you :-) [15:34] pigdude: rc.local? [15:34] If an application installs into /etc/init.d/ that is an acceptable location for Slackware [15:34] pigdude: ^^ [15:35] phrag: running Slackware at work yet? [15:35] Nick change: danklesm1n -> danklesman [15:35] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:36] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [15:36] OK, thanks. I was under the assumption that this required precision [15:36] What kind of precision pigdude [15:36] Canonically, /etc/init.d is a symlink to /etc/rc.d/init.d [15:36] Alan_Hicks: pigdude runs zenwalk so he is out of luck... they do not provide init.d [15:37] That isn't true in Slackware though. [15:37] evo- (n=evo@p4FCF1802.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:37] alienBOB: Ah, then he is doubly out of luck. We do not provide zenwalk support either. :-) [15:37] I thought perhaps the order of execution was important [15:37] alienBOB, ^^ [15:37] i have a question, i dont know if you provide support for this kind of problem though: [15:37] # ll /etc/init.d [15:37] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-11-04 00:36 /etc/init.d -> rc.d/init.d/ [15:38] Alan_Hicks: ^^ [15:38] ;-) [15:38] is there any beer on earth that tastes similar to Stone Brewing Co's Arrogant Bastard? [15:38] what does slackware do with scripts at that location as opposed to the other rc.d subdirectories or rc.d itself? [15:38] archiebenedict, I've been meaning to try that, but I always go with their IPA [15:38] pigdude: install Slackware and see for yourself [15:39] pigdude, im trapped in kansas, and the nearest place that sells it is in texas. im DYING of shitty beer poisoning right now [15:39] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:39] archiebenedict, oof [15:39] we get Stone brewing up in Michigan, even o_O [15:39] have you had the ruination IPA by them? [15:39] archiebenedict, that's rough, I just go to the local total wine and get the individuals in a six pack [15:40] archiebenedict, yea, not as ruinous as I expected [15:40] heheh that was the first IPA i ever had [15:40] their smoked porter is very good [15:40] However, in order to be gentle to pre-converts: the sysv init scripts are run right before the content of /etc/rc.d/rc.local ... i.e. almost at the end of the Slacwkare boot process [15:40] it ruined me. that was what killed my taste for macro lagers [15:41] archiebenedict, for me it was rogue chocolate stout [15:41] OK if you are more interested in beer, I'll leave it at what I said. [15:41] i dont really dig that smoked porter [15:42] alienBOB, isnt everyone always more interested in beer than anything? thats kinda unfair :P [15:42] :) [15:42] alienBOB, by sysv init scripts are you referring to rc.d/init.d? [15:42] archiebenedict: beer is still less on-topic than Slackware in this channel [15:42] I think beer is more on-topic than /etc/init.d :) [15:42] im just kidding, i know [15:42] lol [15:42] Even though I am enjoying my Westmalle Tripel right now [15:42] thrice`: indeed [15:43] alienBOB, too sweet :) [15:43] Although I created an AT&T dialer package for IBM Slackers that uses /etc/init.d [15:44] pigdude: Tripel is not sweet at all. Dubbel trappist is, because of the caramelization [15:44] pigdude: Contrary to popular belief, there isn't so much a sysv init script as there is a Redhat style for SysV init scripts. [15:45] The S09.foo.sh stuff you see on rpm and apt based distros is that style. Both that and Slackware's rc.d/ scripts are technically SysV init scripts. [15:45] yoooo, i am drunk [15:45] :) [15:45] slackers can be drunk also [15:45] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:45] more often than not I think [15:45] alienBOB, ah, I assumed because of the style which tends to the very sweet [15:45] but are you female and blonde? [15:45] bonsoir, hello [15:45] Action: Alan_Hicks had beers at lunch today. [15:45] j0z (n=JESUS@187.58.234.170) joined ##slackware. [15:46] iooo, Camarade_Tux [15:46] :) [15:46] I'm on the east coast...we're still on coffee right now [15:46] hi fredoslack [15:46] if anyone could go to their local liquor store and pick up a double bastard and mail it to me i would appreciate it [15:46] pigdude: Wimp. I'm on the east coast and started drinking at 11. [15:46] alisonken1home: i am not female and am not a blonde [15:46] store closed, sorry [15:46] Alan_Hicks, in school? [15:47] pigdude: At work. [15:47] well done [15:47] have a drink mates, its friday :) thats what all i have to say [15:48] Indeed. It's basically a requirement for my work today. Formatting and re-installing Windows XP and Vista machines, especially when they don't want to activate afterwards. [15:48] vaibhav: ok - then that wasn't a mating call :) [15:48] lol [15:48] Alan_Hicks: hahaha ^^ [15:48] tuxdev (n=tgoya@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-55-221.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:49] alisonken1home: that wasn't a mating call: that was more like a brotherly call :) [15:49] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-55-221.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:49] freebse (n=freebse@f055200110.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:50] vaibhav: Joke: blonde mating call "I'm Sooo Drunk", brunette mating call "Is the blonde gone?", redhead mating call "Next" [15:50] hahaha [15:50] hahahahaha [15:50] ok, firefox just found a reference for an alt= value for an image in the page of a french ISP, of course there is no such rereference... [15:51] gavin_ (n=gavin@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] ok guys, the rum is now finished, now lets back to business :) [15:52] vaibhav: so, are you DWT? (Drunk While Typing) :P [15:53] steven00 (n=steven@151.55.7.164) left ##slackware ("Sto andando via"). [15:53] the key problem with drinking are the numerous withdrawal symptoms... [15:53] Action: pigdude smokes happily [15:53] fire|bird: the fact that it took me so much time to type your name, shows that i am drunk [15:54] hahaha [15:54] pigdude: i have been away from smoke for 2 months now... [15:54] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:54] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [15:54] pigdude: i am celebrating my 60th day of no smoking today [15:54] I have network-tools installed but ifconfig is failing to bring up wlan0. It says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" . Rebooted, same error. What should I do to investigate this? [15:55] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [15:55] vaibhav, depending on the sort of smoking you refer to, either "congrats" or "sorry to hear that"\ [15:55] hiptobecubic: do you have an rf kill switch for this card? [15:56] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:56] Camarade_Tux, i don't see one.... there is a suspicious function button... perhaps that? [15:56] pigdude: i will be congrating the person: since i was smoking about 20 cigs per day....damn i need one right now [15:56] hiptobecubic: here, if the wireless is off at boot, I can't turn it on [15:57] at least now (I'm on a recent kernel: 2.6.32-rc1/2) [15:57] Camarade_Tux, well... i can turn bluetooth on and off it seems. but i don't see any buttons that would make the 'wifi' light go on (Dell lattitude | d510) [15:57] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [15:58] hiptobecubic: and here, bluetooth and wifi are activated/deactivated together [15:58] have you checked dmesg? [15:58] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Client Quit [15:58] well bluetooth was on to start.. [15:58] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] no i haven't. hold on [15:58] vaibhav, ah, congrats, I don't mess with those :) [15:58] Camrade_tux: the latest is 2.6.32-rc6 [15:58] vaibhav, haven't even fired up my hookah for 6 months [15:59] I said recent, I didn't say most recent :P [15:59] aha. firmware problems [16:00] pigdude: i tell you its too difficult to control my smoking problem...though have smoked hookah in the meanwhile.... but i am trying to give that up now [16:00] so now more hukkaah from now on [16:00] hello, I currently have a system running a slackware with both ext3 and an LVM volume that connects two physical drives. I want to reinstall the system without losing the data on the lvm [16:00] is this possible? [16:02] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:02] yes it's possible [16:03] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.21.238) left irc: "Leaving." [16:03] possible [16:03] how are your partitions set up? [16:04] hmmm, I can't install lilo when doing 'chroot /mnt/sdb2 sbin/pkgtool' ='( [16:06] Karu (n=alch@78-28-67-211.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:06] I have the primary [16:06] as an ext3 [16:06] that's a funky way to do it Camarade_Tux [16:06] then I have my swap [16:06] and I have the LVM over 2 hard drives [16:07] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) joined ##slackware. [16:07] Akuma: the Slackware installer will recognize LVM partitions and re-create the logical devices automatically when you run "setup" [16:07] thrice`: I don't have a screen and I can't/don't want to use qemu for the install [16:07] so your "primary" is the one you installed slackware on? its root? [16:08] so the data on that LVM will not be lost? [16:08] Akuma: unless you format those LVM partitions... [16:08] yea the root is on my ext3 [16:08] vaibhav, hookah's good but smoking tobacco period seems to wreck my lungs [16:08] which is what I want to replace [16:08] the LVM only has data [16:08] which I want to keep [16:09] The partition dialog will allow you to instruct that the logical volume should me mounted at a location you specify, without touching it (i.e. without formatting) [16:10] that's good to know [16:10] Thanks a lot for the help [16:10] I appreciate it [16:10] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:10] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-130-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:10] oh the "confirm network setup" dialog when using static IPs is shiny :D [16:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:12] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] darylc (n=darylc@166.205.131.73) joined ##slackware. [16:12] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] Camarade_Tux: ? [16:13] gavin_ (n=gavin@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:13] alienBOB: just using a feature of dialog I hadn't seen yet (boxes) >< [16:13] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [16:13] Linux blackbriar 2.6.29.6 #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 11:58:18 CDT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [16:14] alienBOB, how do you like my solid state system [16:14] Expensive? [16:14] fr33 [16:14] got it as a gift heh [16:14] Nice [16:14] i've had it almost a year, just started to use it [16:14] Lucky you. [16:14] heh yea [16:15] he, considering the one I'm currently building, I guess you can get pretty unexpensive and powerful computers :) [16:15] Just started using it ? Shame! [16:15] yea it's been under my bed [16:15] i prefer my core 2 duo 2.53ghz 120 gig 7200 rpm system more, i dunon whu [16:15] why [16:15] this is 2.8ghz core 2 duo, 64gig ssd [16:15] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:15] jeev_: send me a pc i need a new one [16:16] ok here [16:16] \o/! [16:16] Action: jeev_ sends deco a pc [16:16] pigdude: it does actually, so i have quit smoking cigarettes, i am looking forward to quit smoking hokaah [16:16] vaibhav, yea, hookah's sneaky because it's so smooth but you're really downing a pack or two :) [16:16] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:16] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:85) left irc: "Leaving" [16:16] can someone ping me please [16:17] ewwww [16:17] there's like kids here [16:17] Action: Camarade_Tux sends jeev_ a phenom II X4 955, in the face :) [16:17] are you lonely tonight, Scuzz ? [16:17] pigdude: yeah it may seem. that its safe......but it produces more smoke compared to the cigarettes [16:17] i have major packet loss on my cable modem [16:17] ping google.com i have 40% packet loss [16:18] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:18] did you try unplugging it? [16:18] yeah [16:18] called up my isp , they indeed see a problem [16:18] Scuzz: i have a ping reply from you in 0.9 seconds [16:18] last time they were here a month ago they said there was an issue on the pole [16:18] hrm [16:18] irc seems fine [16:19] on two networks [16:19] darn polar bears [16:19] problem with http [16:19] if i ping my isp i get 100% packet loss [16:20] Scuzz: Probably just block ICMP Echo. Stupid ISP. [16:20] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:20] Either that or DNS is down. [16:20] Alan_hicks i was about to say the same [16:21] they say they have no iseeus [16:21] but yet [16:21] here iam [16:21] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:21] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-185-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:21] Scuzz: That is getting noobfarmed out of context right now. [16:21] lol [16:22] what i was trying to say is [16:22] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: "f.a.r.t." [16:22] irc seems fine no lag [16:22] Scuzz: you tell us :) [16:22] Too late. [16:22] i think your right [16:22] probably dns issues [16:25] pigdude (n=pigdude@pool-96-231-139-180.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [16:27] oh my: pigdude left slackware :( [16:28] Hopefully to remove zenwalk and install the real thing [16:28] alienBOB, i found that problem i was spamming you about earlier. i don't know if you noticed :D [16:30] pkgtool has some little bugs. it's on the lq forums but to sum it up, the switch that tests parameters needs a default case, particularly since one of the params has a typo (--source-mounted instead of --source_mounted) [16:31] bah, new computer will wait for tomorrow, I need another PSU (for the mobo, needs a 2X4 connector, this one has a 2X2) [16:32] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [16:32] hiptobecubic: the pkgtool script is a bit buggy and volkerdi does not like it mych anyway [16:32] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "lalala" [16:33] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. 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[16:50] . [16:50] .... [16:50] ............ [16:50] ............ [16:51] delt0r (n=delt0r@80-123-51-207.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:52] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:53] jmonter: no idea [16:53] jmonter: email webmaster@slackware.it and ask [16:54] thanks [16:54] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:55] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [16:55] Hello. I have recently started to experience awful lag on two of my slackware 12.2.0 computers that run as servers. Any command I issue takes around 30 seconds up to one minute to respond. (I.e. midnight commander loads after a minute). Statistics dont report anything unusual. System load fine, memory usage fine, hdd usage, fine etc. No processes running in the background. What can be the cause of it? [16:56] vaibhav (n=landy@59.92.169.235) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:56] evo- (n=evo@p4FCF1802.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [16:56] qoramm: dying hardware [16:56] jmonter: our fizban is still working on the code of packages.slackware.it [16:57] And I agree with straterra [16:57] Thats a first [16:57] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [16:57] Does "dmesg" report anything unusual qoramm [16:57] straterra: haha [16:57] MAke sure it is not the last then ;-) [16:59] infoman (n=ALL@196.202.27.173) left ##slackware. [16:59] alienBOB: no, I think not, everything seems to be ok [16:59] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-57-246.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:59] that would be surprising if hardware was the reason, though. I just cant think its possible [17:00] alienBOB: thx. [17:00] s0d0 (n=bggr@86.175.233.172) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] qoramm, fire up a live-cd. let it run for 24h, see if theres any difference. grml, knoppix, whatever [17:04] qoramm, get smartmontools and do a long smart test on each drive and pastebin the results here when it finishes [17:04] also, check dmesg, pastebin it [17:04] qoramm (n=qoramm@83.142.202.45) left irc: "Java user signed off" [17:05] interesting [17:05] qoramm (n=qoramm@83.142.202.45) joined ##slackware. [17:05] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-130-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:06] petslack (n=petslack@201-42-216-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-b4268aaab61490c3) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Can some please advise the best/safest way to transfer kde settings from one user to another.... cp ~/.kde then chmod? or is there something built-in? [17:08] chown [17:09] rogersman: no, your way should work fine, cp ~/.kde and then chown it to that user. [17:10] jerry_jones (n=dkkfjgjk@212.183.134.209) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.66.74) joined ##slackware. [17:11] all right, wasnt sure if .kde contained user-specific settings...nice once :-) [17:11] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: "Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi" [17:11] http://pastie.org/687152 -> dmesg [17:11] delt0r (n=delt0r@80-123-51-207.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:12] qoramm: useless, that [17:13] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:13] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [17:13] qoramm: check the output of "smartctl /dev/XXX" for every of your disks, to see if there are failures [17:14] mxmx (n=mmxmx@189.160.88.193) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:14] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.66.74) left irc: Client Quit [17:15] Also try "strace" in front of a command when you run it - perhaps it shows you at what point your command has difficulties [17:15] naitsabeS (n=Sebastia@irc.ldm-clan.de) left irc: "Reconnecting" [17:18] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:19] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:19] jmonter (i=3fc7dba2@gateway/web/freenode/x-sgkgewtmtxnuumtp) left ##slackware. [17:20] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] pppo (i=0@ip-95-220-133-148.bb.netbynet.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [17:21] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:01] qoramm (n=qoramm@83.142.202.45) left irc: "Java user signed off" [18:02] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-a8d5e6324e0959de) left irc: "Page closed" [18:03] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-109-127.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:05] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-130-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:05] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:07] blackwall (n=blackwal@77.92.14.63) joined ##slackware. [18:07] hi [18:07] i got a question [18:09] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [18:09] good night [18:10] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host188-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:10] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-b4268aaab61490c3) left ##slackware. [18:11] blackwall, dont ask it. people might answer. [18:12] I won't [18:12] evening dive [18:12] oh daman, I just did [18:12] good point, someone said the same thing a month ago [18:12] hi fire|bird [18:12] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:13] I've been waiting for them to actually ask since... people were starting to worry about me [18:13] eviljames [18:13] jeeb [18:13] eviljames: There were a few that wondered what happened to you, but I dispelled the rumors of you being kidnapped and taken to another country. ;) [18:13] the answer is... the anwser to life, the universe and everything... is... [18:14] 69 [18:14] oh wait. [18:14] fire|bird: I was in Seattle for a bit.. pretty sure I went to Ken Griffey Jr.'s last career game. [18:14] that's "happiness" [18:14] wrond book Dominian ;-P [18:14] So I was in a foreign country for a while.. [18:14] lol [18:14] i cannot connect internet,it seems it gets ip,dns and stuff from the dhcp server but when i try to ping somewheere it says network is unreacable [18:16] jg71: i cannot connect internet,it seems it gets ip,dns and stuff from the dhcp server but when i try to ping somewheere it says network is unreacable [18:17] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@173-16-206-87.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:17] eviljames: cool, have a good time? [18:18] blackwall, is your default route set correctly? [18:18] yeah, seattle is always fun.. and i only rarely go to baseball games but it was a good time too [18:18] are other (unneeded) network interface up that might interfere? [18:19] jg71:i used netconfig to use dhcp ,i dont know anything else [18:19] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:20] as in, you haven't checked the links in /t and found the commands 'ifconfig', 'route', 'traceroute' and so on? [18:20] blackwall, ^^^^ [18:20] i wrote ifconfig it seems it gets ip and things right [18:21] there is no other network interface up [18:22] what does route say? [18:22] and it might be a good idea to read the slackbook .... [18:22] dunno [18:23] http://www.slackbook.org/ [18:23] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [18:27] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [18:28] r--t (n=root@ppp079166034081.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [18:28] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-151-95-122.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] blackwall: other reading material (after reading the slackbook.org sections) = http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [18:28] thnx [18:30] thieusoai (n=thieusoa@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. 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[18:35] i just never thought to grab FF because i never really had internet anyway [18:36] no way could i have downloaded that at home [18:36] nix_chix0r: grab that and try getting the iso again. ;) [18:37] fire|bird, i think thats eh 100% of the problem and i don't know why i didn't think of it [18:39] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] nix_chix0r: yeah, I'm sure it is. :P [18:40] fire|bird, link me again please? [18:40] nix_chix0r: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/slackware-13.0-install-dvd.iso [18:41] yayyy [18:47] maciuszek (n=maciusze@i209-195-102-234.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:49] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-79.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] lory (i=7780@151.81.0.254) joined ##slackware. [18:50] lory (i=7780@151.81.0.254) left ##slackware. [18:51] jomo (n=ralle@p3EE210EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). 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[19:06] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:07] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:07] well folks, just when you thought it would never get here...the weekend's arrived [19:07] \o/ [19:08] hey mancha [19:08] hey there! [19:08] mancha: how are you? [19:08] mancha, pfft, i work up at 10am today [19:08] its good to sleep in [19:08] *woke [19:08] hey edman007 [19:08] hey [19:08] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] 10am, so you;'re one of the lucky folks eh!? [19:09] mancha, i don't work every other friday :P [19:09] and i got next Wednesday off \o/ [19:10] and 10am is better than 6am [19:11] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. 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[19:24] edman007, I prefer 7:30 or 9:30 pm ;-) [19:24] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Broken pipe [19:25] edman007, that's when I go out to entertain others and my self ;-) [19:25] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:25] heh [19:26] its almost 730pm [19:26] are you going to entertain me? [19:26] jeev (n=email@174.139.9.42) joined ##slackware. [19:26] Action: edman007 needs to go out more [19:26] edman007, wronge time zone ;) [19:26] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:26] jescis, come over here, i'll meet you in nyc [19:27] Action: edman007 wonders where jescis is [19:27] nyc!?! [19:27] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] paducah, KY [19:27] paducah.. [19:27] I've been there [19:27] home of Schroeder Publishing [19:28] Dominian, there's now a music scene ;-) [19:28] jescis, NYC!!!! [19:28] heh [19:28] I was just down there last year doing some IT work... didn't see much music there [19:28] and that does not sound like a real place [19:29] edman007, it is, west ky side [19:29] wow, google puts you in empty nowhere land [19:30] lotec (n=lotec@229.sub-75-203-242.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] Argleton? [19:31] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: "Leaving" [19:31] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Dominian, you must've not gotten to go where the music was... like Jeremiah's(Now it's Mother Duncan's), Etcetera's(a coffee shop that's better then $tarbuck$), and other places ;-) [19:32] arggggg [19:32] A coffee shop better than Starbucks? Don't exactly have to try hard. [19:33] jescis: ahh we were right off the interstate [19:34] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] http://www.bridgehead.ca << probably the best I've ever been to. Only find them in Ottawa, Canada though. [19:34] Dominian, That was the problem. Downtown's where everything happens ;-) [19:34] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Client Quit [19:35] velusip, Uncle Bill's City Dump [19:35] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:35] What are you going on about? [19:35] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:35] velusip, any coffee shop that's small time is always better then starbucks ;-) [19:36] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [19:36] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:36] just the same as a small time grocery store is better then Wal-mart ;-) [19:36] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:37] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:37] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:38] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:38] ThereI'm still yet to find a quadruple Starbucks intersection. [19:38] There's a few doubles here in Vancouver, BC [19:38] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:39] wshy is it British Columbia if britains don't live there? [19:39] why* [19:40] Canada is weird? [19:40] there's one in Seattle [19:40] velusip, yea [19:41] sure is, but so is San Fran Cisco ;-) [19:41] CA is really weird, UPS has a major shipping facility in `Ontario, CA` and they mean the US, not Canada...i see it all the time on tracking too [19:42] you all suck [19:42] I don't think there are 2 letter country codes. [19:42] southern cali owns you [19:42] you suck [19:43] no [19:43] infinity ward sucks balls [19:43] urmom sucks balls [19:43] velusip, newegg.ca what do you call that? [19:43] A TLD? [19:43] actually that's a domain! [19:43] he said newegg.ca, not .ca [19:43] ;_) [19:44] there is a two letter country code for contries [19:44] I can see how that would be difficult to determine, given the premise. [19:44] jeev, thrice` you suck [19:44] velusip, you blow [19:45] edman007, you swallow [19:45] Well if you're into alienating people, you've come to the right place. [19:45] edman007, you mean hot air? ;-) [19:45] Action: edman007 strangles nix_chix0r [19:45] looks like we're gona need another nix_chix0r [19:45] you all suck [19:45] Action: fire|bird tranquelizes edman007 [19:45] oh jeev relax [19:45] nix_chix0r, you suuuuccckkkk [19:46] yeah, it gets me in trouble [19:46] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Action: edman007 gets an epi pen and wakes himself up [19:46] Action: edman007 pours water all over fire|bird [19:47] where is your fire now?!?!?! [19:47] uhoh [19:47] Action: fire|bird sends a group of phoenix's after edman007 [19:48] Action: jescis gives edman007 some phoenix downs [19:48] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] Action: edman007 sends nix_chix0r after fire|bird [19:50] :o [19:50] vmhobbes (n=charissa@112.201.1.212) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:51] nix_chix0r, kick him! [19:51] i can't kick him [19:51] he lives in my state [19:51] \o/ [19:51] Action: fire|bird is saved [19:51] noooooOOoOOOoOoOOOOooo [19:51] Action: jescis kicks fire|bird [19:52] Action: edman007 high fives jescis [19:52] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:52] here is a cookie [19:52] Action: fire|bird flies out of the way. [19:52] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [19:53] fire|bird, you made my water filter stop filtering [19:53] fire|bird, you can't escape my chuck norris kick... it's a butt seeker ;-) [19:53] now it tastes all cloriney [19:53] jescis: I'm a bird, I have no butt, just a *tail* feather. ;) [19:53] jescis, professional butt seeker? [19:54] edman007, oh, yeah :-) [19:54] fire|bird, you have a but now...that kick was so hard you got a new butt, in the shape of jescis's foot [19:54] edman007: no that would be Barney Frank. [19:55] edman007: ok [19:55] jescis: what kind of tread do I have now from your boot imprint? [19:55] "property of jescis" [19:55] fire|bird, michilin tire boot treads [19:55] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:55] Dominian: oh crap, I'm branded for life now. [19:56] unixfool (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:56] W|GGL|T (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:56] Action: fire|bird leaves a tank tread imprint on jescis's foot. [19:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Action: jescis punches fire|bird with his chin fist [19:57] jescis, you have a pointy chin... [19:58] and you can make your chin into a fist? impressive [19:58] edman007: he's a transformer. [19:58] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-79.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:58] i'm a transformer too, though only mentally [19:59] hello, when I type ls, I get a a bunch of '?' on certain file's attributes and if I try to remove them as root I get "permission denied" [19:59] edman007: mentally? I thought that was deformed, not transformed. :P [19:59] any idea what this could be or how to solve it? [19:59] edman007 [19:59] i sent you 4milion [20:00] Hm, Opera 10.01's memory footprint is awful. [20:00] i can't find it! [20:00] that's what she said [20:00] Akuma, could be corrupted name, fsck the disk first [20:01] SuN: yeah, it's about as bad, if not worse, than Firefox now. [20:01] Action: edman007 slaps fire|bird [20:01] W|GGL|T (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] Action: NaCl hadokens Akuma [20:01] I admit, I have quite a few tabs open at times, but 1.5GB just for Opera is no exception. [20:02] I'll do that [20:02] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:02] thanks [20:02] lotec_ (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] SuN, i have passed that with ff [20:02] I hope they do fix that at some point. [20:03] edman007: I probably would have if I had any more to spare :D [20:03] edman007: with how many tabs? [20:03] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [20:03] NaCl, i think i have 100-150 at the time... [20:03] s/have/had/ [20:03] what?! [20:03] yea... [20:03] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [20:03] 63 open right now. [20:03] I only have 9. [20:04] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-226-47.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] I've been exporting the concept of bookmarks to tabs. [20:04] i'm doing good the last few weeks though, i only have 27 open [20:04] SuN, exactly the same thing i do [20:04] Action: jescis blasts NaCl with a subzero blast [20:04] It's only logical, considering today's available computing power. [20:04] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426439.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:05] is there a shell trick that will allow me to exclude certain files from a command (ie. I want all files but file called X) [20:05] Action: NaCl breaks free quickly from the cold and shoryukens jescis [20:05] Akuma, no, you can delete by inode number though [20:06] i think anyways [20:06] Akuma, which command? [20:06] any command that takes files as parameters [20:06] for example chmod [20:06] you can do some tricks, like cp $( ls dir | grep -v X ) [20:06] paul424_ (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Action: jescis electricutes NaCl, blanka style [20:07] Action: NaCl stops making Street Fighter references. :P [20:07] Action: jescis stops as well [20:08] Action: edman007 makes NaCl into a sodium lamp [20:08] NaCl, it was a good game though :-) [20:08] jescis: :P [20:08] jinjii (n=fabio@host221-125-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Leaving." [20:09] Action: jescis turns edman007 into a water lamp [20:09] Action: fire|bird turns jescis into a geany and puts him into the lamp. [20:10] jescis, what do those look like? a sodium lamp are those orange parking lot lamps [20:10] fire|bird: which one? [20:10] NaCl: which one into the lamp? jescis. [20:10] which lamp. :P [20:11] lol, the water lamp edman007 is now. [20:11] Action: edman007 bubbles [20:12] edman007, I reckon a water lamp is one with water. I don't know because it was the first thing that came to mind :D [20:13] lol [20:13] i can't get my webcam to work correctly ;_; [20:14] fire|bird, genie is the correct spelling I beleive [20:14] indeed. [20:14] jescis: actually, the more correct spelling is djinni [20:15] jescis: doh!, I guess I was thinking geany as in the text editor. :P [20:15] ,FJ [20:16] has anyone ever come across the problem that their webcam is showing up a green image [20:16] that does not really contain what the webcam is looking at [20:16] a distorted version of it, with a lot of fail [20:17] mplayer, also, is the only thing that actually works with the webcam [20:17] chee, could be drivers or something *shrug* [20:17] chee: sounds like your gamma correction is off, and the lens is a bit off [20:17] or what nyRednek said [20:17] i really don't think this is quite as simply as gamma and lens [20:18] lotec (n=lotec@229.sub-75-203-242.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:18] chee: it may not be [20:18] bbl [20:18] chee: that was kneejerk [20:18] kneejerk is often good [20:19] Nick change: jescis -> jescis|afk [20:19] vmhobbes (n=charissa@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [20:19] the first thought is often the correct one [20:19] chee: but not always [20:19] if i try to use v4l2, i got a lot of trouble [20:19] nothing works at all [20:19] Quiznos: you on? [20:20] if i use v4l, i get a green box that looks like it's stairing at curtains [20:21] and mplayer lists 'ioctl mcapture failed invalid argumet' every frame [20:26] Nick change: aiiiiiii -> sedimalko [20:26] Nick change: sedimalko -> aiiiiiii [20:28] rhys-droid (n=fircuser@ma50736d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] hail the channel [20:29] Action: edman007 smites rhys-droid [20:30] can't smite me, I'm mobile. and that is no way to greet a traveler. [20:31] my bad [20:31] Action: edman007 avoids the outsider [20:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] any camp to do that to a wayfarer temps the wrath of the Gods. for it is well known that Gods travel in many guises. [20:32] Action: chee wonders [20:32] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [20:32] does slackware's precompiled kernel have mod spca5xx :3 [20:33] how quicky we forget the customs of a culture a mere 2500 yrs old,. [20:33] chee, gspca is what its called now. I think [20:33] darylc (n=dc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) joined ##slackware. [20:33] if not its very easy to compile. [20:34] you need to speak machine code fluently? [20:34] rhys-droid: your gods are dead [20:34] chee, should have everything [20:34] aha [20:34] jg71, its my native tongue [20:35] I think I wrote a script for its inclusion to zenwalk ages ago. [20:35] my [20:35] gspca_spca561 [20:35] machine code? i thought it was just jibirish [20:35] still o luck :( [20:35] *no :( [20:35] lotec_, blasphemy [20:35] myRedneck, on the contrary, the Omnissiah lives! [20:36] only in the minds of those foolish enough to believe such [20:37] his entomed presence and disciples maintain the ether on which we currently converse. now, intone the rites of data-preservation and hold ye tongue! [20:38] heh. I love the Adeptus Mechanicus. [20:38] Nick change: askhader_ -> askhader [20:39] rhys-droid: your "god" has one weakness, above all others..."shutdown now -h" [20:39] who cares. the world will end in dec 2012 anyways. hopefully by a big comet. [20:40] Nick change: lotec_ -> lotec [20:40] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:40] lotec_, I'm hoping that it's a misprint and that the world will end by a big cornet - preferably one with lots of ice cream [20:40] o dive_ that would be nice and Yummies [20:41] lotec: if you believe that, i have a bridge for sale [20:41] and chocolate flakes :) [20:41] nyReadneck :D lol [20:41] bah! the emperor protects his own, even through his manifestation in the machine spirits of these servers. violate their domain at you own peril! you are not the machine-preist known as 'root', as such, permission denyed. [20:41] can i get sprinkles also please? [20:41] sure [20:41] Action: lotec jumps up and down sqeeking [20:43] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [20:44] I find it amazing I can preach while walking down washington road. I <3 android. [20:44] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.134.68) joined ##slackware. [20:44] guyz i downloaded 13.0 but i dont want to destroy my brand new ubuntu 9.10 lol [20:44] rhys-droid, that's quite an accomplishment [20:44] i wish verizon would get there droid online all ready [20:45] lotec: $149.99 if you upgrade. ;) [20:45] maciuszek (n=maciusze@i209-195-102-234.cia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:45] i thought it di dnot come out until the 12th [20:45] lotec: I'll get the link, sec. [20:45] rhys-droid: washington rd? [20:46] dios_mio: it'll destroy itself soon enough [20:46] i still have a year on my contract, but my work will buy it for me [20:46] lol nyRednek [20:46] lotec: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/droid.jsp?page=droiddoes&cid=SPC-DROID-GSEARCH [20:47] my boss is out to buy one tomorrow. same omap processor as in the iphone 3gs and nokia n900. I'm running cyanogens newest mod, and its actually making me reconsider buying the n900 [20:47] fire|bird nice [20:47] lotec: for me anyway, I got that link from google's home page. :P [20:48] I've never really had a look at one [20:48] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.114) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:48] that a fingerprint reader on the right? [20:48] the motorola droid that is. I have the g1, shitty hardware but android is much more mature than maemo, even if maemo is more powerful. but since android is on top of linux, I was using it on the n800 before any phones existed. if someone ports the davlikVM on top of maemo5, I will jump instantly. [20:49] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:49] mameo + android on Omap35xx w/ graphics ! *drool* [20:51] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-196.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] washington road is in naperville, whoever asked. walking home from work. my truck ate a deer in indiana. gave it indigestion. "totaled" indigestion. [20:53] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:53] oops [20:53] rhys-droid (n=fircuser@ma50736d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:56] rhys-droid (n=fircuser@m850736d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] hrm.. [21:02] hi Dominian [21:02] it appears I've lost sound in KDE 4.3.3 in -current after removing phonon and doing the latest updates [21:02] why remove phonon? [21:02] look at the changelog [21:02] isn't phonon important? [21:03] ah, ok [21:03] l/phonon-4.3.1-x86_64-1.txz: Removed. [21:03] rhys-droid: phonon is kde's audio api that connects with alsa, etc. [21:03] l/qt-4.5.3_063bded-i486-2.txz: Rebuilt. Recompiled to add the included version of the Phonon multimedia framework. [21:04] yeah hrm.. let me make sure that got installed [21:04] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] yep.. that got installed. [21:04] wonder what the deal is [21:04] I thought phonon was qt. [21:04] you've restarted kde since? [21:04] thrice`: uhh yeah [21:04] first thing I did [21:05] maemo is using phonon, and they are all qt, not kde. [21:05] rhys-droid, phonon is kinda deployed separately from qt, but qt also includes it. [21:06] who runs it? kde or qt? as nokia is using it, I assume they will be working on it [21:06] nokia owns qt, so lets hope so :) [21:07] yay nokia [21:07] ugh [21:07] oh [21:07] who has the droid [21:07] ? [21:07] i'm considering it [21:08] jeev, buy it. [21:08] I might look into Android once more vendors adopt it and seperate it from Google services a lottle more [21:08] so.. phonon was removed, but the new qt package doesn't appear to apply the backend properlly so sound is dead. [21:08] brb [21:09] hrm nevermind.. I have sound.. must just be ET.. [21:09] bbl [21:09] lol [21:09] yea i'm not interested in the google services [21:09] I'm running the newest cyanogen mod ontop of 1.6. the things that it does now, plus what googles doing in 2.0 [21:09] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) left irc: [21:09] why on earth not? they are actually awesome [21:10] not interested in data mining and stuff [21:10] it obviously does pop email eh [21:10] who uses pop anymore? imap/pop yes [21:10] sure [21:11] and what are they data mining? [21:11] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:11] and what can't you remove? don't like maps, "su, mount -o rw,remount /system, rm /system/apps/evilgoogleapp.apk" [21:12] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-170-38.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:13] that's it. seriously. I uninstall the default email and amazon mp3 that way. they are self contained, and are gone. replace the browser, email, whatever. [21:13] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-170-38.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [21:13] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] the default emai sucks, but since its opensource a group forked it and made k9. k9 beta now supports IDLE push, but has a few counting bugs. multiple profiles, all sorts of things [21:14] turkeyshoot (n=raiden@S0106001cdfd0ecff.dr.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] any reason i would get missing NTLDR other than lilo not being configured correctly? [21:16] oh, dunno [21:16] google sent a cease and desist to cyanogen for distributing their proprietary apps with his mod. and then they sent the two google employees who maintain the android source tree to help him fix it. I have never seen what is wrong with google. [21:17] crazy [21:17] they rock. in 2.0 they are doing voice turn by turn directions for free. garmin/tomtom/verizon etc shat themselves. I almost think they've built a perpetual money machine. [21:17] i'm taking the plunge, guys [21:18] hold up a rope [21:18] hrm.. [21:18] sound in kde is working but ET no sound.. damn [21:18] does et use oss or something from 15 years ago ? [21:18] It's Quake 3, so it'spossible :P [21:18] yep.. unfrotunatelly [21:19] we are huge, so we have lots of money, so we give things away. when we give things away, we get bigger. which makes us more money.... [21:19] maybe try aoss then [21:19] before i do it, i'm going to drink two shots of 80 proof cuban sweet dark rum. [21:19] philh: aoss? [21:19] aoss et [21:19] googling now [21:19] rhys-droid: /win 26 [21:19] bah, sorry [21:19] alsa oss compatibility layer [21:20] rhys-droid: I was going to ask if there's decent SyncML-enabled local sync (instead of having to sync to Google services) for Android yet [21:20] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@173-16-206-87.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:20] i like oss4, guys [21:20] i LIKE IT [21:20] vmhobbes (n=charissa@112.201.1.212) left irc: "later." [21:20] nope.. no joy [21:21] what does et say about sounds? [21:21] on the console [21:21] ahh there is its [21:21] /dev/dsp: No such device [21:21] Could not mmap /dev/dsp [21:21] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:21] that would explain it [21:22] hrm.. but it is there.. interesting [21:22] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left irc: "Leaving." [21:23] LSD`, I have no idea. I don't "sync" devices like their a sub-computer. I treat my phone like my laptop. [21:23] I expect it to be like my laptop. all my contacts are in gmail/gtalk/my phone. [21:24] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [21:24] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [21:24] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:27] hrm.. foudn a few suggestions [21:27] nada working so far hehe [21:27] Dominian, if you change the backend to xine? [21:28] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [21:28] thrice`: I have no backends showing which is what is werid [21:29] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-196.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:30] can someone explain why they are afraid of google? [21:30] dogsoul (i=doggy@208.53.151.98) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] dogsoul (i=doggy@67.159.18.42) joined ##slackware. [21:32] rhys-droid: I never said I was afraid of Google [21:32] rhys-droid (n=fircuser@m850736d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:35] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [21:36] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [21:39] toofer (n=toofer@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:40] toofer (n=toofer@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] toofer (n=toofer@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:41] toofer (n=toofer@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:49] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-70-18-148-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] Heya,slackers [21:50] MarkT- (i=markt@S01060017318efe5c.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] is anybody alive here, or is everybody idling? [21:50] idling [21:51] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-0-141.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] (P)idling....:P [21:51] heya MLanden [21:51] I just finished watching MacHeads [21:51] heya,fire|bird [21:51] were all robots of fire|bird [21:51] X_X [21:51] if we talk he hits us with dead chickens [21:52] Action: fire|bird hits lotec with a dead chicken. [21:52] Action: lotec cries and hides under a couch [21:52] lotec: shouldn't have spoke without permission. :) [21:52] MarkT- see you got me hit [21:52] GammelSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Connection timed out [21:53] JustBe` (n=tiagogom@unaffiliated/justbe/x-000001) left irc: "gone" [21:53] Does anybody here know if the official 64 bit port of slackware works with amd cpu's, or is it for intel? [21:53] Action: MLanden grabs the chickens and KGC's 'em.....:D [21:53] MarkT-: Works great on my laptop AMD 64bit [21:53] it is for PPC [21:53] slackintosh [21:54] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] o i did forget, 64slack runs on the ps3 also [21:55] lotec: that's what I thought...... but now I'm confused, because fire|bird said it works on amd [21:55] but it actually runs at 128 because the PS3 is uber cool [21:56] I'm having trouble installing OO.org on slack64 13, even after upgrading libtool and installing libfreetype it still gives me libfreetype.so.6 is missing any ideas? [21:56] MarkT- just think about what you asked. why would it not work with amd? if it is a 64 processor? [21:56] xovan, where did you get OOo ? [21:56] slackbuilds [21:57] xovan: you're using the 64bit version of OOo? [21:57] yep [21:57] Action: hitest sweeps up all of the dead chickens [21:57] sounds like you maybe got the 32-bit tarball? [21:57] hey hitest [21:57] lotec: because I wasn't sure if it was only for intel 64 bit cpu's. [21:57] heya,hitest [21:57] nope the 32 bit tarball is the one labeled intel [21:57] hiya fire|bird [21:57] it _does_ say x86_64, after all... [21:57] xovan, run "file" on the soffice binary in /opt [21:57] hi MLanden [21:57] how are you guys tonight? [21:58] hitest: great, thanks. you? [21:58] MarkT- that does not make sence. just install it man it will be fine [21:58] just relaxin' thanks hitest....yourself? [21:58] you don't need to update *anything* for OOo to run [21:58] pretty good, fire|bird, ty:) [21:58] I would associate amd64 with amd, x86_64 I would associate with intel. [21:59] hitest thanks for getting the chickens, i think he was trying to put one in my Bung Hole [21:59] MLanden: yeah, just chilling over here.....tired...been a long week [21:59] lotec; lol [21:59] MarkT-, that doesn't make sense since amd went dual-core first [21:59] MarkT- x86_64 and amd are the same dude [21:59] one is a 64 bit cpu. all there is to it [21:59] EM64T is what Intel call it. AMD originally called it x86_64, but everyone standardising on amd64 and AMD spying an oppurtunity for some shameless self-promotion officially changed it to amd64 [21:59] aren't there a few trivial differences? [22:00] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-24-21-15-58.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:00] I thought x86_64 was PPC [22:00] weather shoutout .... 34F here...1c (for all metric)...:P [22:00] no [22:00] MarkT-: no [22:00] ppc is powerpc [22:00] MarkT-: ppc is another beast [22:00] there can be 64-bit PPC, but [22:00] okay [22:00] anyways I can't find the soffice binary [22:00] well, shows what I know... [22:00] the installer didn't install it [22:00] MarkT- read this http://digg.com/hardware/AMD_vs._Intel:_64-bit_Windows_Dual-Core_Shootout [22:00] MLanden: 52F here, got to 68F today. [22:00] xovan, now we're getting somewhere. "installer" means you didn't follow slackbuilds.org ? [22:01] MarkT- have you used linux before? [22:01] slackbuilds.org wanted the build the 32 bit version [22:01] Pampeano (n=Tales@189.103.8.22) joined ##slackware. [22:01] Yes, lotec... only 32 bit before, however. [22:01] no, it didn't [22:01] also, when you said "the slackbuilds.org" version, you should have said "I wasn't intelligent enough to actually use it" [22:01] ok, so as long as you have an amd64 or a intel 64 cpu it will all work man [22:01] okay, thanks. [22:02] same as 32bit, you can even run 32bit apps usually [22:02] I wasn't aware that they were compatible in 64 bit mode. [22:02] anyway, use this, if you can manage to remove the crap your "install" did: http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.0/x86_64/openoffice.org-3.1.1_en_US-x86_64-2_rlw.tgz [22:02] Robby's packages ftw [22:02] Pampeano (n=Tales@189.103.8.22) left ##slackware ("Fui embora"). [22:03] MarkT- i dont understand what your last said [22:03] anyways, thanks again. [22:03] also, you need to set the ARCH environmental variable to x86_64 [22:03] what in the world http://openofficemouse.com/pr110609.html [22:03] hear ya,fire|bird....weird for it to be warmer in Minnesota than Virginia...lol [22:03] lotec: I mean that I had thought they had different 64-bit instructions. [22:03] for slackbuilds [22:03] MLanden: yeah, sure is. :P [22:03] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] http://www.slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [22:03] but apparently I am mistaken, according to what you are saying [22:04] which is fine [22:04] MarkT- well amd antd intel do not build them the same, but that is why there are differnet cpu selections in the kernel [22:05] if you build a kernel and you have an AMD64 chip and you do not choose it, but you pick Intel based. you will have problems not saying it will not run but problems [22:05] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:05] MarkT- you ever built a kernel? read threw the slackbook? or the rute book? [22:06] thanks wollw setting the ARCH environment variable got the slackbuild to work correctly [22:07] okay, so all I have to watch out for is making sure the kernel is built for amd. [22:07] unixfool (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] np, it's in their FAQ [22:07] hey unixfool [22:07] http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [22:07] MarkT- that is correct when and if you build a kernel, from a defualt build on slack64 you will be fine [22:07] that means I should rtff [22:07] okay [22:07] quite possibly [22:07] thanks again [22:08] MarkT- (i=markt@S01060017318efe5c.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:08] o and MarkT- [22:08] o shit [22:08] lol [22:08] all well [22:08] lotec: too late [22:08] lol...o well [22:08] i was going to inform him PPC was not AMD. [22:09] Action: fire|bird grabs a dead chicken from hitest and throws it at lotec [22:09] Action: lotec runs [22:09] Ha-ha [22:09] fire|bird: dead chickens? hell(hands fire|bird a brick sling) [22:09] Action: MLanden grabs the chicken and bites the head off....\m/ O \m/ [22:09] :o, even better. [22:09] Action: hitest claps as a frozen, dead chicken clobbers lotec [22:09] xovan, well, the only problem is removing what you installed, which might be challenging [22:10] but, as the FAQ states, every build on slackbuilds.org supports both 32 and 64-bit [22:10] MLanden: Who are you, Ozzy Osbourne's cousin? :P [22:10] nope the installer didn't install anything because it couldn't find libfreetype which is essential to even building the core part [22:11] xovan, oh, good :) grab that package, and installpkg it [22:11] lol...fire|bird [22:12] apparently it was looking in /usr/lib for libfreetype, instead of looking at /usr/lib64 [22:13] Action: NaCl senses that someone is trying to build wine [22:13] setting the ARCH variable fixed it and probably will solve future issues. [22:14] wrong! [22:14] BilliePagoda (n=bpagoda@76-240-25-69.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] how so? [22:14] xovan, yep :) [22:14] no, that was at NaCl + lag [22:14] ah [22:14] thrice`: probably didn't need the exclamation point. [22:14] every file in glibc-2.9-i8n is duplicated in glibc-2.9 package [22:15] NaCl, then it lacks excitement :) [22:15] lol [22:15] EXCITEMENT! [22:15] :D [22:15] so attempts to free up space will fail [22:15] NON-EXCITEMENT [22:15] pigdude (n=pigdude@c-69-143-121-199.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] What happens when excitement and non-excitement meet? [22:17] bennymack (n=ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] NaCl: an anti-climax? [22:17] lol [22:19] thrice`: Well, I've discovered now, with seamonkey build, that ldappr.h is indeed not where it is looking. I uncommented the two make lines that were commented out in the build you gave me, and removed the -s so it would be more verbose so I could tell what directory it was in upon failing. [22:19] Are there any known issues with ab on 13.0? [22:19] wollw: sounds about right. [22:20] fire|bird, includes got installed to the wrong dir? [22:20] yay now I have beer :) [22:21] No matter how valid a URL I pass it it always just says "invalid URL" and prints the usage [22:21] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] "ab" is not supplied by slackware [22:22] mount: unknown filesystem type 'lvm2pv' <---- error from: mount /dev/mapper/sdb1 /media/hd1 <--- trying to mount part i used luksOpen on [22:23] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:24] hey baby, A/S/L? [22:24] oh...wrong window [22:24] ’ [22:24] thrice`: ldappr.h did at least I think. [22:24] antiwire: 21/F/your back yard, see me? :P [22:25] mmm [22:25] how do i remove glibc i18n if the files are all duplicated in glibc [22:25] haha [22:25] BilliePagoda: well, it's in a slack pkg: httpd-2.2.13-i486-1. I'm just trying to figure it out. I've observed this behavior on several seperate boxes running 13.0. Can anyone try a simple ab command on 13.0 and tell me if they get the same thing? [22:25] ab -n 10 http://www.yahoo.com [22:26] httpd 2.2? no thanks [22:26] thrice`: It is in /tmp/comm-1.9.1/directory/xpcom/base/public when it crashes, so it is going back 4 dir's like it should, but the file just isn't there at all. [22:27] lol,fire|bird [22:27] fire|bird, hm, strange. I've not seen any other distros build the way Pat does (with 2 make processes); that's why I tried just make, as many others do, and it worked OK [22:28] thrice`: yeah, which it does work that way, but those two makes are what gets the nss/nspr stuff so that pidgin, gxine, rpm, etc need to build against. [22:28] ab -n 10 http://www.yahoo.com/ [22:29] fire|bird, really? that didn't create the separate package for you ? [22:29] thrice`: without those, /usr/include/seamonkey/nss is empty, and nspr is non-existant. [22:29] winter: [22:29] Action: MLanden shutters at the thought of fire|bird in antiwire's backyard disguised as a female with a dead chicken [22:29] thrice`: it creates seamonkey-solibs, but doesn't provide what's needed. [22:29] antiwire, little aliens? [22:29] edman007: SKULLS! [22:29] MLanden: hahaha [22:29] micro aliens [22:29] fire|bird, ooh, sorry :( [22:30] 9 [22:30] :( [22:30] I admit to only trying to see if it loads [22:30] antiwire, eh, the skull looks really small... [22:30] 99 [22:30] gah I must be doing something wrong here.. [22:30] thrice`: no worries, it built, and is working, which is great for just me, but rpm, etc. won't build now because the needed nss/nspr stuff is gone. :P [22:30] two unhappy faces [22:30] bennymack: yeah you are missing a / [22:30]  [22:30] that is much better :D [22:30] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:31] needs a really big font [22:31] antiwire: *two* unhappy faces? ok, ok, I'll leave your backyard, sheesh. [22:31] lol [22:31] / [22:32] my snowman is happy :) [22:32] ## [22:32] is dat some unicode [22:32] biohazard!! [22:32] uhhh... 4chan was raiding this server ? [22:32] chee: if you can't read it, your client sucks [22:32] thrice`: I'm guessing that 2.0 either moved, or eliminated ldappr.h, building it with --disable-ldap, it builds, but no sites will loade. [22:32] anavel: and your mom [22:32] don't insult me, you yingyanging antiwire! [22:33] edman007: are you blue?....whoops..strike that....:P [22:33] http://pastebin.ca/1660476 [22:33]  [22:33] that's your client [22:33]  [22:33] MLanden: no, not anymore, he's had a long enough rest. :P [22:33] ----------- [22:33] aww, chee's client is crippled. [22:33] fire|bird: edman007's snowman?.....ah.that's good..:D [22:34] ;; [22:34] http://unicodesnowmanforyou.com/ [22:34] thats the big font version [22:34] http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf [22:34]  [22:34]  cut that out [22:34] http://www.unicode.org/charts/ [22:35]  [22:35] 4chan is raiding this channel [22:36] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:36] 4chan hasn't even appeared yet. I have yet to see a pedo bear [22:36] hey, fire|bird . how are your snacks [22:36] Action: chee is a pedobear :3 [22:36] ##slackofftopic [22:36] GTFO [22:36] oh wait http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/mrawesomeface.png [22:36] thrice`: using grep to try and find ldappr.h results in not finding it. Would find be better? [22:37] http://lukey.miauu.info/picsahz/pedobear/pedobear.jpg [22:37] BilliePagoda (n=bpagoda@76-240-25-69.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:37]  [22:37] antiwire, its for you [22:37] he left, YES [22:37] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left ##slackware ("too... much... unicode..."). [22:38] lol [22:38] peeps can't handle the unicode [22:38] fire|bird, sure, $( find /tmp -iname "*ldappr.h*" ) :) [22:38] they all feel left out [22:38] fire|bird, sorry, I'm in fedora now and too lazy to reboot to try to rebuild it :) [22:38] thrice`: that's ok. Wanna really have fun, install Fedora's seamonkey 2 and watch it crash. :P [22:39] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:39] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:39] fire|bird, they must be getting close, I got a fedora-release 12 package or so today [22:39] hello [22:39] unicode charts have DRM ;/ [22:39] ;-; [22:39] no they don't [22:39] in which directory of slackware I can find rpm2tgz package ? [22:39] I can read them fine here [22:39] yes they do [22:40] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [22:40] can you copy + paste fine from there [22:40] it's your crappy setup that is drm'ing you [22:40] do you know why you can't copy and paste fine from there [22:40] thrice`: I don't know which would be the best to use, but it has been moved: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ooAFRt70.html [22:40] do you remember when i said "unicode charts have DRM ;/" [22:40] that's why. [22:40] chee: that's not DRM [22:41] antiwire: that's DRM [22:41] you really lack an understanding of this [22:41] NO, it is not. [22:41] \^]Z[]^\ [22:41] ________ [22:41] chee: whatever you are copying and pasting with does nto support DRM codes... [22:41] chee: seriously...wtf is wrong with you? [22:41] YYYYYYYY [22:41] VXWTUWXV [22:41] lets play! [22:41] lol [22:41] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:42] edman007: e4 [22:42] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [22:42] chee: you need to copy the key codes, not the GD image... [22:42] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [22:43] it's not an image, it's all characters [22:43] toot toot here comes the fail bus [22:43] protected by DRM [22:43] rhys-droid (n=fircuser@ma10736d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] it's not DRM what is wrong with you? [22:43] NaCl, to where? [22:43] rhys-droid (n=fircuser@ma10736d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:43] it is DRM [22:43] edman007: e4 = pawn to e4 [22:43] you have some serious issues you need to work out with yourself [22:43] pdf anti copy-pasta is drm [22:44] It's not drm, it's lack of understanding [22:44] i realise i can type the unicode and win a snowman [22:45] what the heck, pidgin is missing some stuff now, 2.6.3. [22:45] NaCl, http://pastebin.ca/1660480 [22:45] antiwire: Are you using 2.6.3? Do you still have the part to set part and quit messages? [22:45] however, if they had chosen not to copy-protect the text, i could copy + paste snowmans [22:45] yes, 2.6.3 [22:45] fire|bird: works fine here still [22:45] antiwire: Hmm, that part is missing here now. You using your own built, or the 2.6.3 slack has? [22:46] edman007: http://pastebin.ca/1660481 [22:46] fire|bird: As of the last -current update I am using the standard Slackware build [22:46] antiwire: ok, thanks. [22:46] edman007: wait a second... [22:46] heh [22:46] The king is supposed to be on the e-file [22:47] someone clearly needs to write a chessOirc RFC [22:47] get on that asap [22:47] http://irc-chess.sourceforge.net/ [22:47] lol [22:47] 7 G W g w ‡ — § · [22:48] is dat sum i ching [22:48] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [22:48] 3*yin pluto ? club ? ? ? ? chiron? [22:48] 7 7 5 [22:48] NaCl, heh [22:49] holawollw [22:49] hey [22:49] ohh, i see...i'll swap em [22:49] do you deliver pizza, wollw [22:49] no [22:49] :( [22:49] i am hungry [22:49] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:49] i do a lot of cooking though [22:49] can't say i've ever made pizza though [22:50] come to my house and cook me something nice please [22:50] NaCl, wait, no, according to the wiki it is right...T is king and U is queen [22:50] i promised myself that each time i became tired tonight, i would drink a shot of rum and a cup of coffee [22:50] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:50] until my update was complete [22:51] chee: jusy make some rice or something [22:51] just [22:51] which update is that? [22:51] I've had 48 floz of beer so far tonight [22:51] of good beer, no less [22:51] edman007: I may be thinking backwards again. [22:51] nice [22:51] what kind of beer, antiwire [22:51] NaCl, no its mee [22:51] chee: microbrewed, local home town [22:51] IPA [22:51] antiwire, delicious? [22:52] fantastic [22:52] awesome [22:52] %? [22:52] NaCl, http://pastebin.ca/1660490 [22:52] 6.8 [22:52] swapped [22:52] antiwire: heh, turns out a plugin had become disabled. :P [22:52] delicious [22:52] IBU ~50 [22:52] my mother works in a brewery [22:52] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [22:52] wb [22:52] fire|bird: which plugin? [22:52] thrice`, my secret update [22:53] oh [22:53] Action: wollw used to stomp grapes for wine [22:53] like in fantasia [22:53] thrice`, i'm replacing all of my slackware packages with ubuntu packages [22:53] edman007: http://pastebin.ca/1660492 [22:53] chee, awesome :) [22:54] thrice`, if it works, i'll send you the script. i'm calling it: slackbuntuwareuslack [22:54] .sh [22:55] MLanden: well, I'm not quite sure, I went through the list and enabled some that I use, but had somehow become unchecked, and now it's working again, but I can't really track it to which plugin. :P [22:55] fire|bird: ok [22:56] MLanden: As long as it's working now, right? :P [22:56] NaCl, http://pastebin.ca/1660494 i have not played in a long time.... [22:56] how about you? you play a lot? [22:56] fire|bird: true...that all that matters...:P [22:56] edman007: neither have I. [22:56] And moving bishops is going to be annoying. :P [22:56] yea [22:57] well i think i'm going to go to bed... 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[23:04] church of subgenius reference [23:04] sorry [23:05] ppp (i=1000@adsl-68-123-181-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] right,antiwire [23:06] is Slackware-current still 13.0? I thought I saw current with some newer dates.... [23:06] then, look, and check [23:06] slackware.com/changelog [23:06] gdv (n=wbb@adsl160-182.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [23:07] AHA! [23:07] same place it's been for ~5 years, I think [23:08] gdv (n=wbb@adsl158-149.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Slackware current has no version... [23:10] it is current [23:10] thrice`: Well, it's this one I have to use: /tmp/comm-1.9.1/mozilla/config/system_wrappers/ldappr.h, and that's the fix that rworkman gave me the other day, which didn't seem to help. :/ make CFLAGS+="-I$(pwd)/mozilla/config/system_wrappers [23:11] fire|bird, the worst part, is that it takes so long to die :) [23:12] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.150) joined ##slackware. [23:13] thrice`: haha, yeah. We need a distcc of the whole channel. :P [23:14] thrice`: That make line, is there a way to put that into the slackbuild? [23:16] fire|bird: yes [23:17] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:17] aWNED (n=root@adsl-177-110-202.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] Just put it after "make"? [23:17] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] NaCl: I tried that. [23:18] brb [23:18] whats the problem? [23:19] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.150) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:19] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:20] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:22] how dare chee threaten us with brb [23:22] some nerve hes got [23:25] aWNED (n=root@adsl-177-110-202.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] welcome back chee [23:27] thanks :] [23:27] lol [23:28] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:28] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-axynzvsxuimzchzh) joined ##slackware. [23:28] y0 mrselfpwn [23:28] pattwo (n=pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-axynzvsxuimzchzh) left irc: Client Quit [23:29] I scared him away. :/ [23:29] musta been your chicken,fire|bird..:P [23:29] haha [23:29] yep [23:31] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-pnillxmkkvtwtgho) joined ##slackware. [23:34] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [23:36] he must have just been going to get his gun [23:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:36] good night all:) [23:36] night,hitest [23:37] night MLanden [23:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:38] chee: well gosh, that's nice to know. :P [23:38] ^^ [23:39] i tried to buildd up the appetite for writing a card game today [23:39] i failed to build up that appetite [23:39] chee: which game? [23:39] Whist [23:40] might be one written in freshmeat....nevah know..:P [23:47] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:49] fredoslack: salut!! :) [23:49] hi deco /° [23:50] :) * [23:50] fredoslack: mi french mi english :P [23:50] lool [23:50] fredoslack: new smilies ? :P [23:51] no, none :( [23:51] oh :/ [23:51] deco, i've buy [23:51] spiders [23:51] fredoslack: how many ? [23:51] and a snake [23:51] :o [23:51] 12 spiders [23:52] en plastique, deco [23:52] fredoslack: oh XD [23:52] lol [23:52] i'me downloading slack 13 [23:52] cool [23:52] fredoslack: dvd ? [23:53] yes, [23:53] :) [23:54] bon j'y go [23:54] bye !!! [23:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-128-218.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:54] ooo [23:55] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-13-103.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] winter: [23:55] keres (n=keres@68.102.140.120) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:55] a man who makes teh whole world fur teh mices [23:55] \o/ [23:55] /o/ [23:55] \o\ [23:55]  [23:55] gotta love them fjords...:D [23:56] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.66.74) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Sat Nov 7 2009