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[00:14] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:15] is anyone using gecko-mediaplayer instead of mplayerplug-in in firefox? 64-current. I am getting crashes 100% of the time that i try to play an mp3 in browser with this new 'improved' plugin [00:19] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:22] Nevermind, xineplugin was the problem. Deleted it. Everything is great now [00:22] jaminja_ (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. [00:23] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) left irc: Disconnected by services [00:23] Nick change: jaminja_ -> jaminja [00:23] telperion (Adium@186.28.17.28) left ##slackware. [00:23] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Changing host [00:23] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. 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[00:39] I get these errors while trying to compile a new kernel:make[1]: *** [scripts/basic/fixdep] Error 1 [00:39] make: *** [scripts_basic] Error 2 [00:40] pics or it didn't happen [00:41] what is the line before that make[1] error [00:41] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:41] scripts/basic/fixdep.c:380: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' [00:42] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:42] ok need to paste all the context, pastebin. make it so. [00:43] What packages do I need to be able to compile a kernel? [00:43] several [00:44] sorry, it is a waste of my time to help someone who did a less than full install and isn't good enough to know what to not leave out. [00:44] mancha: You can try. [00:45] Axius: did you do a "less than full install"? [00:46] I did a minimal install. [00:46] he has a very valid point, if you don;t know what is need you ahve no business doing a less than full install [00:48] clint- (~clint@pdpc/supporter/active/clint-) joined ##slackware. [00:52] wonders what "minimal" is. [00:53] Exists a method to avoid that in the "rm" command, the -f parameter disable the -i parameter? [00:53] nope, f beats i like 4 aces beats two pair [00:53] lol [00:53] or like a magnum .44 beats 4 aces. [00:54] hey all [00:54] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:54] Maybe I need change the questio. Is possible to erase a directory interactively ? [00:55] without "-r" [00:55] the contents of a directory? including subdirectories? [00:56] sorry... I'm in other world today... "-r" does that [00:57] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:58] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:59] The point is to avoid the -f... [00:59] you don't need to use the -f. [00:59] gabriel_: seriously .. what is it you want to actually achieve? [01:00] Is a bad practice in some people [01:00] and after they are crying for the erased files [01:01] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [01:01] yessss.. and...? [01:04] rm is a potentially dangerous command as are many others. either get smart users or idiot proof your system., [01:04] Sometimes we need reverse those retarded actions! :P [01:04] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:04] revert* [01:05] gabriel, set up a nightly backup system for /home [01:05] then at most they lost a day's work. [01:06] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:06] on my local system /home/ gets mirrorred once every hour to another disk and acrros the network daily. [01:07] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-225.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:07] gabriel_: add this to their start up files: alias rm='rm -i' [01:07] yeah, i'm thinking in that too [01:08] but if someone really wants the -f :P [01:08] then they deserve what they had comin' [01:08] maybe an interactive question [01:09] adding a custom script called rm in a custom PATH [01:10] anyway...thanks :P [01:10] or put your bash wrapper in /usr/bin/rm and move rm to /usr/bin/nuke [01:11] the problem with that is when a software needs the real rm :P [01:11] yes that is true [01:12] Axius (~fd@92.84.25.17) joined ##slackware. [01:12] I think the solution is this: User: "Um, I need $x that I deleted." You: "Tough shit." [01:12] rworkman: you forget the sort of optional hitting user with a LART [01:12] hah [01:12] Well, there's that too. [01:13] but that might just be wishful thinking on my part ;) [01:13] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] You do that a lot, don't you? ;-) [01:17] the other idea is: alias rm='mv $@ ~/.trash', but is very invasive...anyway... fuck retarded users [01:17] That's the spirit. [01:18] http://code.google.com/p/safe-rm/ [01:18] mancha: you're an enabler. [01:18] ;-) [01:18] c'mon, try it, the cool kids do it! [01:18] :> [01:19] Axius (~fd@92.84.25.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:19] grazymax (~grazymax@host218-23-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:20] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:20] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:20] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [01:20] it looks nice [01:21] thanks rworkman [01:21] That was mancha, not me. [01:22] oh sorry :D, you're right [01:22] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [01:22] Axius (~fd@92.84.25.17) joined ##slackware. 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[01:29] Anyone is free to do that, so long as they change the TAG and don't use us for advertising them. [01:29] ah ok [01:29] Too much trouble. Everyone who's ever tried it stopped soon after :) [01:30] I see [01:31] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [01:31] well... bye everybody! [01:31] kasi (~kasi@ip-106.55.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net) left irc: Quit: kasi [01:31] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:33] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:33] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[05:20] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:21] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-130.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:22] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.22.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:23] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.28.6) joined ##slackware. [05:24] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-39-254.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:24] strash (~strash@84.54.139.145) joined ##slackware. [05:24] good afternoon people [05:24] morning [05:25] o/ [05:25] can someone tell me -how can i hibernate my slack from the KDE? [05:25] konsole -> su to root -> pm-hibernate :-) [05:26] when i press the suspend to disk or suspend to ram options - i got black screen and that`s all [05:26] see /var/log/pm-*.log [05:26] slava_dp let me check [05:26] strash: have you set up resume in lilo? [05:27] sahko no i didn`t ,because i don`t know how [05:27] irrelevant at this point (black screen), but worth doing still :) [05:28] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [05:28] slava_dp when i want to hibernate i want my Laptop to shutdown completely and all data from ram to go to the HDD [05:28] i get black screen as it doesnt resume [05:28] sahko [05:28] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:28] i can enter my password and still go on working [05:29] so it doesnt go into hibernation? [05:29] nope [05:30] which graphics driver? [05:30] when i move the mose it says the session is locked - i type my pass and all is back [05:30] i use the VESA [05:30] pete` (~user@046.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:30] due to some problems with the sis one [05:31] i didnt know vesa could do that [05:31] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [05:31] better check the pm-*.log's [05:31] /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/scjed-powersave false:**sched policy powersave OFF success. [05:32] *sched-powersave [05:32] this is what i get when i cat the pm-powersave.log [05:32] not pm-powersave.... pm-suspend or pm-hibernate [05:33] Anyone here got a Fiber Optic network? [05:33] ok let me try [05:34] slava_dp i have only pm-powersave.log in .usr/log [05:34] */usr/log [05:34] see /var/log/ [05:34] strash, ok, then open a root shell, type pm-suspend and press Return. your laptop should suspend to ram. [05:34] ok let me try [05:35] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:35] I have slackware 13 installed from dvd with xfce, but I can't get out to the internet with my wireless network. I can ping the router and this pc and that's it. [05:36] I am using this guide http://epsilonprecision.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51:slackware-wireless-tutorial&catid=34:tutorials&Itemid=53 [05:36] andybiker: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [05:36] andybiker, install wicd, it's in extra/ on the dvd. [05:37] OK. I'll try that [05:38] btw fyi my rc.wireless.conf is very minimal as none of the suggestions apply to me [05:38] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [05:39] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wireless_configuration_in_rc.wireless.conf_deprecated [05:39] strash (~strash@84.54.139.145) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:41] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-57-145.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:42] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-39-254.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:44] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [05:48] strash (~strash@vlan-156-sliven-132.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:48] slava_dp the result is a disaster [05:49] tell us more =) [05:49] after pm-suspend the laptop goes on standby , but it doesn`t want to come up-it just shows some strange red lines [05:49] i guess it could be the VESA [05:50] i tried to suspend before i have started the X [05:50] it doesn`t run at all [05:50] just blank screen [05:50] probably vesa doesn't know how to reinitialize your sis card properly. [05:50] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:50] well,as it did it in the begining [05:50] that`s how to treat it [05:50] any chance of running a sis driver? [05:50] not sure [05:50] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [05:50] i tried the first 2 days but -nothing [05:51] at least i have X :) [05:51] suspend on Linux is a pain. [05:51] so i have to forget about the hibernate and stand-by options [05:51] my intel laptop does not resume correctly half the time. [05:51] xaxaxa [05:51] what about the fact it didin`t work when i tried it without the X on [05:51] ? [05:52] strash: ti oshte li si tuka be :) [05:52] lamah sadly yes [05:52] strash: s X-a [05:52] X is on Vesa [05:52] wtf? [05:52] 1280x768 (although the max is possible but not very well working) [05:54] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:57] chendy (~chatzilla@183.17.53.33) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [05:57] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [05:58] strash: so, did you set up resume in lilo? [05:58] sahko i haven`t touched the lilo at all [05:58] i don`t know what do you mean to setup resume in lilo [06:00] you must add something like this: resume=/dev/sda2 (your swap partition) to the append line and rerun lilo [06:02] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:02] i found this topic -are you talking about this ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Mini_HOW_TO_Hibernate_and_resume_0 [06:02] and after that, try doing a pm-hibernate (might work out) [06:03] should i make some changes to the kernel as the miniHOWto shows ? [06:07] well i got only the "session is locked , enter your pass (or something like that) screen" [06:08] PhazeyDion (~PhazeyDio@125-238-180-12.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:12] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[06:34] ##slackware: mode change '-b nogo*!*@122-124*.dynamic.hinet.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:34] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-140-89.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:35] SirIdiot (~slobad23@92.17.194.144) joined ##slackware. [06:35] Kii-kun (~Kii-kun@92.0.31.30) joined ##slackware. [06:37] I am having some problems clicking on the buttons in flash player windows. This is something I have been able to fix before by adding "export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1" to the file npviewer. A quick search has shown me this file does not exist in Slackware. Has anyone encountered this problem and if so do they have a workaround? [06:39] fix your nick [06:40] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:43] slava_dp, fix it? is there something wrong with it? [06:43] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. 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[07:13] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:13] Hold on for a big pastebin report [07:14] is this a machine you can use wicd on? [07:19] andybiker (andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:19] andybiker (~andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:19] oops! [07:19] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:20] I don't know. Mandriva , mint and ubuntu can set the wireless key up [07:21] I must confess I am no fan of wpa. I have never got it working [07:22] andybiker setting up wireless on slackware isn't the easiest thing in the world. have you tried a helper like wicd? [07:23] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl5-139-40.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:24] yeah wicd makes it so easy [07:25] I installed wicd, but it don't run, not in networking [07:25] what was the error? [07:25] ok, if you want good help you're going to have to be smarter about your phrasing of the problem [07:25] if your user is not in the netdev group he/she can't [07:25] but you can always run wicd-curses as root [07:25] "it don't run" is not a smart way to state the problme [07:25] (in a shell) [07:26] I see. It's called wicd-client! :P [07:26] trying that [07:28] archcezar (1000@acvy128.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:28] Aah, that's better! [07:28] THanks guys! [07:31] archceza1 (1000@afgu166.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:33] Where can I get the SMART package manager? [07:33] the what?? [07:33] Is it on the dvd? required by kpackage [07:34] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.210.93.3) joined ##slackware. [07:34] I doubt it is. [07:34] brb, switching computers now the wifi is working! [07:34] andybiker (~andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:35] what is the smart package manager? [07:35] SMART package manager?? [07:35] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Package_Manager && http://labix.org/smart [07:36] andybiker (~andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:36] well kpackage says it supports slackware packages so it seems like it should not need "smart" [07:37] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:37] if it doesn't .. not so smart ;) [07:37] a few things to fix here, one is the US keyboard and one is to update the system a wee bit (slackware 13.0 probably) and install some net nanny software [07:37] *zing* [07:38] Kpackage requires the SMART Package Manager to be installed in order to function [07:38] any reason for 13.0 instead of 13.1? [07:38] quote [07:38] old dvd [07:39] at least it is 13 [07:40] how can I update from the shell? [07:40] you might want to read the slackbook at this point [07:41] hold on, isn't kpackage something out of the days of slackware 12.2 (ie kde 3.5.x series)? [07:42] it's from kdeadmin 3.blah [07:42] Jjenna_ (seviyorum@41.236.13.148) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:45] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [07:45] andybiker, http://www.slackbook.org/ && http://code.google.com/p/slackbasics-i18n/ [07:45] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:45] Thanks Slobad, I'll bookmarki as well! [07:45] i see kpackage bundled in kde4 distributions elsewhere [07:45] and take typing lessons! [07:47] don't know what pat/alienbob do with slack's kde4 though. [07:48] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:51] is anyone using something other than gxine from the default slackware install or do you find it good enough? [07:53] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [07:54] mancha: I can see a kpackage-kde4 as part of ubuntu/debian. [07:54] yes that is where i saw it, debian [07:55] nvision_ (~nvision@e179129159.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:59] andybiker: anywayyy ... ;) you should forget about kpackage and just use slackwares native tooling :) [08:00] I'm playing with about 8 different distros atm, testing out internet nanny software [08:00] m00p (~topcat@212.150.147.230) joined ##slackware. [08:00] stunix (1000@85.19.141.162) joined ##slackware. [08:00] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [08:00] ml4711 (~morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:00] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [08:01] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [08:01] but as Gillan famouslt said, "there ain't no easy way" [08:03] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left irc: Changing host [08:03] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) joined ##slackware. [08:03] mancha: oh hey, whattayaknow, seems kpackage was part of KDE4 < 4.3 .. it's indeed in kdeadmin-4.2.4. [08:04] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:05] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:05] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:05] Zordrak (~jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:06] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:08] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [08:08] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:08] did kpackage ever work for slackware? I've started it once back in kde3 days and closed it fast too. [08:09] slava_dp: Worked for me in...12.1, I think :D [08:10] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [08:11] slava_dp: no idea, I think it was a mixed deal anyway, never used it myself. [08:12] kpackage has been removed from KDE [08:13] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [08:13] based on the name, I >assume< is has something to do with package managesment, kde style [08:15] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [08:17] hello [08:18] is there anyone working with squid ? I have a question [08:18] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:22] pete` (~user@046.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:25] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:25] tsuyoi (~akmal@unaffiliated/akmal) joined ##slackware. [08:26] hi all [08:27] Genk1: folks in #squid [08:27] i just installed slack 13.1 64 [08:27] ananke, nobody answer ! [08:27] after the slackpkg upgrade-all, X hangs [08:28] and i get a black screen [08:28] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: take care... [08:28] Genk1: maybe because you still haven't asked the question? [08:28] the only way to end it is to kill X through ssh [08:30] ananke, of course I did it [08:30] Genk1: not here [08:30] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [08:31] ganeshix: What video driver you use? [08:31] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [08:31] I need a tutorial that talks about squid in digest mode with LDAP authentication ! [08:31] I have wrote a script perl for this purpose but it doesn't work ! [08:32] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:32] tsuyoi (~akmal@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [08:33] john_dee, NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173,14,25-pkg2.run [08:33] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [08:33] ganeshix: Reinstalling it should help [08:34] Axius (~fd@92.85.222.243) joined ##slackware. [08:34] ganeshix: First do *.run --uninstall, reboot, then install again [08:34] Redness (~redness@c122-108-165-14.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:34] And that's one ancient version you got there :) [08:35] I'd rather say that nvidia is skipping versions [08:35] we could be at slackware 1337 if volkerdi did the same [08:35] How do I background a daemon? [08:35] pete` (~user@002.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:36] tsuyoi (~akmal@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [08:36] john_dee, maybe i should try with the newer nvidia? [08:36] tsuyoi (~akmal@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left irc: Changing host [08:36] tsuyoi (~akmal@unaffiliated/akmal) joined ##slackware. [08:36] ganeshix: Well, you have to unistall this one anyway. Why not go with the newest then [08:36] Nick change: Redness -> redslack [08:37] john_dee, the reason i chose this one was that it showed as the one compatible on a table from nvidia (i think) [08:37] john_dee, ok, i'll try that now... [08:37] ganeshix: Oh, that see for yourself. If you have an old card. 256 series might not work [08:38] I want to background dhclient. How can I do that? [08:38] adrien: They still have to catch up with chrome. At least for nvidia it's some significant changes..sort of :) [08:39] I want to background dhcpcd. How can I do that? [08:39] john_dee: well, I don't know: chrome makes a new major every 3 or 4 months, but increments only by 1 each time [08:39] john_dee: nvidia increases by 20 or 30 each time :P [08:41] tsuyoi (~akmal@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [08:41] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [08:41] At least it's doesn't happen every 3-4 months :) [08:41] john_dee, my card is GeForce 6150 LE, version a2, width 64 bits [08:42] ganeshix: I'm not sure. They could have dropped support for 6xxx in newest drivers. Check their site for that info. [08:44] Zordrak (~jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:44] john_dee, i'll check right now [08:45] Damnnit :( 5 days left to go until its first uptime anniversary and my server's barfed up its kernel [08:45] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:45] :P [08:46] Zordrak: oh, btw, dunno if I told you: the "git track" of slackware64- current is working :-) [08:46] coolio [08:47] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:47] well done dude [08:47] I get this:sh: /usr/bin/gtbl: No such file or directory [08:47] sh: /usr/bin/nroff: No such file or directory [08:47] when I want to read a man page. [08:48] nroff isn't installed? [08:48] Zordrak: :-) [08:48] wobbles (huntsman@C-59-101-139-61.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:51] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-112-107.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [08:51] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left irc: Changing host [08:51] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) joined ##slackware. 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[09:05] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [09:05] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:06] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [09:07] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [09:08] Is it only my system that hangs when I try to choose GTK+ from System Settings/Appearance/Style/Widget Style? [09:09] Anyone feels like experimenting? :) [09:09] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [09:09] DE is KDE [09:09] madbear (~dude@c-bc2de655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [09:12] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[09:45] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [09:45] hi, i am using slackware 64 13.0 + multilib support. i tried to install devede from slacky.eu, and it needs vcdimager. devede cannot see vcdimager. both vcdimager and devede were installed from slacky.eu's 13.0 repo. how do i get devede to see that vcdimager is installed? [09:46] did you try the devede slackbuild? [09:46] Axius: you have done slackpkg update first? [09:47] yes i tried the slackbuild, but the propblem is that there is no 13. 0 version of it, and when i install the 13.1 version of devede i need a newer vesion of gtk+ [09:47] BP{k}: no [09:47] Axius: why not? [09:47] see my problem aziztcf ? [09:47] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:48] BP{k}: I get some errors. [09:48] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [09:48] BP{k}: Error downloading from /mnt/hd/slackware. [09:49] Axius: well 1) is this an actual disc or just an iso file, 2) how did you mount it? [09:50] so on my 13.0 system, if i install the slackbuild , i have a choice of 13.1 and 12.2, when i choose 13.1 devede needs a higher version of gtk+, and because gtk+ isn't listed at slackbuilds i am assuming this is on the install disk for slack, and i don't think i want to go through a system update today. [09:50] BP{k}: Is just a iso dvd image. [09:50] Axius: well that's 1) answered. [09:51] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:51] blkdg: and what version of devede does work with slackware 13.0? [09:51] so then i looked for devede for slack 13, and i came across slacky.eu, but now devede can't see the vcdimager that i installed with slacky.eu [09:51] one sec. [09:52] 3.12c [09:52] devede 3.12c [09:53] also, when i run vcdimager from the command line i get this error: [09:53] vcdimager: error while loading shared libraries: libiso9660.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [09:53] google isn't helping with that at all. [09:53] okay, here is what I would would try: 1) install dvdauthor and vcdimager and deps resulting thus from the slackbuilds.org 13.0 repository. The download the slackbuild from the 13.1 repository for devede. Put the 3.12c source in there, and run the slackbuild as follows: VERSION=3.12c ./devede.SlackBuild [09:54] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [09:55] blkdg: what does ls -l /var/log/packages/libcdio* tells you? [09:55] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:55] BP{k}, my choices for devede at slackbuilds are 12.x and 13.1 not 13.0 .... [09:55] checking [09:55] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [09:55] blkdg: yes, and? [09:56] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1319 2009-09-06 15:56 /var/log/packages/libcddb-1.3.0-x86_64-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3265 2009-09-06 15:56 /var/log/packages/libcdio-0.79-x86_64-1 [09:57] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [09:57] I really fail to see, how what I just wrote contravenes that fact [09:57] nothing you wrote. [09:57] i am slightly confused [09:57] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:58] we hadn't noticed .. honestly ;) [09:58] ahem, what does the ls tell you? [09:58] :) [09:58] blkdg: it's pretty simple: the slackbuild is just a script that takes source and makes it into a package. the script doesn't care too much one way or another which slackware version it is run on. [09:59] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:59] However we /have/ checked said script against a standard install of 13.1 so we know it works on that version .. otherwise it usually works but things might go wonky here and there. Still it's always a valid try. (and hence why I tell you to use the 13.1 script with an earlier source version). [10:00] /var/log/packages/libcdio-0.79-x86_64-1:usr/lib64/libiso9660.so.5.1.0 [10:00] Axius (~fd@92.82.64.36) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:01] ok let me uninstall the slacky stuff and give the slackbuild stuff another try. one sec. [10:02] meatpuppet (~infected@203-59-73-131.perm.iinet.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:03] meatpuppet (~infected@203-59-73-131.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:04] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) joined ##slackware. [10:04] Hello guys [10:04] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [10:05] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-250.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] installing vcdimager from slackbuilds 13.1 repo first. [10:06] no. [10:06] oh [10:07] well, I would go with 13.0 but you could try 13.1 to see if it works. The downside is that you may run into other weirdness .. but meh :) [10:07] i should get the 13.0 then. [10:07] one sec. [10:07] besides there is no version difference between vcdimager .. so .. that really makes the whole point moot :D [10:08] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Hey there. Tried to install qwit from sbo, but complained abot errors related to qt [10:10] From the logs, seems to be using qt3 [10:10] Is there anything I need to do system-wise to tell to use qt4 first? [10:11] ok, i built the 13.1 then i say you say no then i deleted it then i got the 13.0 then tried to install it and i was given an error then i saw that you said it was ok anyway then i deleted the 13.0 one and got 13.1 one again and rebuilt it. whew. [10:11] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [10:17] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [10:17] blkdg: hey, in my defense, I'm only on my 4th coffee ;) [10:18] BP{k}, i got the slackbuilds tarball for devede 13.1 and unpacked it. in it i copied the src for devede-3.12c then i ran the insatll command you gave me and the error is : cp: cannot stat `pixmaps/backgrounds/*': No such file or directory [10:18] VERSION=3.12c ./devede.SlackBuild [10:19] macavity (~demeter@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:19] blkdg: bah. (see this is what I meant with "it can go wrong") [10:20] ah ha [10:20] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:21] you 'could' try the 12.2 versio but you need to edit the Slackbuild by hand to change the version number. [10:22] ok, before that, how about an opinion question: if you had many .avi's and you wanted to convert them into dvd 's (seasons of a show) how would you do that in one fell swoop with slackware 13.0 ?? [10:23] Nick change: xchg_chrr -> xchg [10:25] am i not using k3b right, or is there another app to try ? or do i try using the slackbuild for 12.2 ? [10:25] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [10:26] ok, back to the install problem.. [10:27] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:27] BP{k}, was i suppost to unpack the bz2 that the source was packed in, or just move the bz2 into the slackbuilds dir? i just moved it. [10:28] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [10:28] then i ran the slackbuild with the version alteration that you gave. [10:28] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [10:28] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:29] Action: slava_dp is building .35.4 with robby's config and ck's patchset =) [10:30] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:30] some one had probles ith intel gma4500hd and openGL? [10:30] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:33] when openGL is enable, crash opening any program [10:36] blkdg: just move the bz2 into the slackbuildsdir. .. for the 12.2 buildscript you need to edit the slackbuild with $EDITOR to ammend the version manually. [10:37] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [10:37] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:38] artaud, I have that issue at work on 13.1. It is fixed by upgrading to a newer Xorg. let me find that thread.... [10:39] artaud, there, reportedly this xorg build fixes the opengl issue. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/call-for-testing-xorg-updates-20100830-a-829336/ [10:39] I haven't tested it, personally. [10:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:41] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.241.6) joined ##slackware. [10:42] redslack (~redness@c122-108-165-14.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:42] redslack (~redness@c122-108-165-14.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:43] slava_dp: i'll see this now. thanks a lot [10:44] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:44] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:44] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.165.218) joined ##slackware. [10:44] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.165.218) left irc: Changing host [10:44] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:45] BP{k}, i got the 12.2 buildscript. which source do you want me to try first? [10:45] slava_dp: you make this update in 13.1? and have the same videocard? when you enable openGL all programs start crash de X session? [10:46] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-76-147.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:47] blkdg: I would go with 3.12c [10:47] john_dee, you were right [10:48] john_dee, it was the nvidia driver [10:48] john_dee, after installing the new driver the problem went away [10:48] tnx a lot [10:49] i reformated that 1TB internal drive to ext4 and now the read/write tests are not failing, was it just a bad FS or signs that the drive is failing? how can I know? [10:49] ganeshix: Np. This kind of thing can be expected after xorg upgrade [10:51] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:51] BP{k}, IT INSTALLED [10:52] \o/ [10:52] uhm I mean "yes yes of course it did " ;) [10:52] i got the src from slacky.eu beacuse the author dosn't keep old source on his site and the links on slackbuilds for his old source lead to nowhere [10:52] KaMii: start with SMART reports [10:53] so i edited these lines: VERSION=3.12c SRCVER=3.12c and replaced the numbers. [10:53] when I ran smartctl it said it was going to take 180 minutes, but it wasnt doing anything so I stopped it [10:53] it's running, and i guess that means it might work.... [10:53] thanks agina BP{k} [10:53] my HDD was not being accessed [10:53] blkdg: no problem, glad it got sorted in the end :) [10:53] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:56] KaMii: "smartctl -a /dev/sdX" should at least give some clue as to hardware defects even without running a test suite [10:56] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:57] ya, thats what I did, but my HDD was not being accessed when I monitered it, so what exactly does SMART do if its not spinning my HDD [10:58] |Slacker| (~cris@189.4.28.136) joined ##slackware. [10:58] bellman (~bellman@core.routed.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:58] SMART is reading the data from your drive's electronics to check the built-in drive log [10:58] oh, so I should run smart then start accessing the drive? [10:59] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [10:59] bellman (~bellman@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [10:59] no - smart should output the text of your drive's internal log and display what the drive electronics have said is the status of your drive [10:59] KaMii: you can run smart at any time. it should show you the historical records [10:59] ok i'm trying to install flash player with the new directions but it will not extract [10:59] welcome to 2010 :) [11:00] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:00] ok [11:00] what you're looking for is where the drive log is saying something like "secotr remapped" messages and "sector error" messages [11:00] sector rather [11:00] tsuyoi (~akmal@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [11:01] ok, well if there is nothing wrong with the drive, what would have caused my FS to have become corrupted? [11:01] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:01] if it was VBox crashing while making a .vdi FS, then thats a serious bug they need to reserch [11:01] memory errors, software trying to bypass the kernel drives and talk directly to the drive, things like that [11:02] because thats when I noticed the drive go down, Vbox crashed while creating a new .vdi [11:02] macavity (~demeter@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:03] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] larry, what doe sit say ? [11:08] |Slacker| (~cris@189.4.28.136) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:10] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:12] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:13] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.194.144) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:14] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. 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[11:36] I dont know, it looks like this http://paste.php.lv/ff101c96347fe8a4221418c95eb09605?lang=php [11:37] I've 2 hdds raided-1 [11:37] ouch, yeah, sda looks like it has some issues [11:38] dTd (1000@d-206-53-76-161.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] first time in my life i have something like this [11:38] :( [11:39] arnis_: mdadm -D /dev/md0 should show you your current state of your software array, see if that's ok [11:39] or cat /proc/mdstat [11:39] arnis_: have a look at the --monitor option in mdadm [11:41] http://paste.php.lv/3997b5df039166acffff7ed897f4cb14?lang=text [11:41] looks nice for me [11:41] :/ [11:41] artaud, i'm very glad to hear that. [11:42] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:42] :) [11:43] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [11:43] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:43] try turning off write cache [11:44] how? 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[12:00] slava_dp: which hardware? when is it failing? [12:02] adrien, core2duo laptop. seems to suspend all right, the power light blinks slowly yellow. but when I click any button on the keyboard (or the power button), the laptop tries to power on with a blank screen, but sounds like it can't bring up the HDD. after 2 tries, it starts normal boot. [12:03] checks filesystems, etc. [12:03] papi (~papi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [12:04] hi all. i have a serious problem. i've launched this script on a redhat server http://pastebin.com/d5rbhr05 [12:04] it was needed to find all non-owned files on my server [12:04] and give it a owner [12:04] but i think also normal executables were involved in the chown prosess and now i cannot start any executables [12:04] restarting the machine i recieve a kernel panic saying [12:04] "exec of init failed : bad address" [12:04] slava_dp: IGP? [12:05] kernel can't access to /dev /proc and /sys [12:05] is there a grub command to rewrite those onwer/permission settings? [12:05] papi: redhat, grub, no idea ; might try to use rpm to reset permissions but that's all I can say [12:06] the directories /dev, /proc, and /sys are pseudo directories, they have to be mounted as pseudo devices [12:06] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [12:06] rodrigo_golive (~Rodrigo@189-11-93-88.ctaje700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:06] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:06] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [12:07] actually,/dev is a real directory, it's populated with device entries, so it contains special files - /proc and /sys are pseudo directories that are direct representations of the kernel (still special directories that have to be mounted specially) [12:07] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:07] yes it isn't the right place to ask for this problem. but ii cannot understand how to 'reverse' the script [12:07] can you read it in pastebin? [12:07] adrien, IGP? :) [12:08] |Slacker| (~cris@189.65.132.209) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:08] intel igp, integrated graphics [12:08] adrien, oh, that. yes, intel x3100. [12:09] any ideas? [12:09] papi: if you've indeed lost the owner and group, then it's not reversible (might overwrite with new but not "recover" as it was before) [12:09] no, not really :P [12:09] the script in the pastebin is just looking for fstab entries that a) don't begin with a comment (grep -v^#) and are also ext3/4 (although the awk part looks like it's using - instead of =) [12:10] man :p [12:10] so the awk part looks like it's not working properly [12:10] tsuyoi (~akmal@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [12:12] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. 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[12:35] becauise my fans don't even run [12:35] for what purpose [12:35] could be my psu [12:35] is the problem i don't know [12:35] try another psu [12:35] or the cpu is just bad, but i chceck the pins and it's ok [12:35] or try the cpu in another machine [12:35] don't have another machine [12:35] you can't find out that way [12:35] i'll go frys today and get another psu [12:35] mighty1 (~mighty1@c-24-130-134-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: [12:36] he wasn't hard to convince [12:37] ki2azyone (~krazy@adsl-99-88-58-11.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:38] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [12:38] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.10.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Patero-ng (~no@174-23-43-192.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] hello [12:39] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-103-122-224.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:39] I want to know how to distinguish a reply from a request packet [12:39] I'm trying to identify the behaviour of a certain connection [12:40] tcp dump will be fairly straight forward [12:40] what I want to determine it by the data itself [12:40] the protocoles and layers used [12:42] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [12:42] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:43] so [12:43] from the information I got I want to determine what type of packet it is request or reply [12:44] other than the initial connedtion for tcp packets, you would have to learn the software that's doing the talking to find out if it's a request/reply packet [12:44] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [12:45] ki2azyone (~krazy@adsl-99-88-58-11.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:45] and tcpdumb knows dat [12:45] tcpdump knows about packet headers and how to separate headers from payload [12:45] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:45] k unfortunately am on windows [12:46] ok use wireshark [12:47] its great but iirc doesn't support promiscious protocols [12:47] am using the packet monitor of my firewall sygate [12:47] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:48] Patero-ng: welcome back [12:48] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: @Out [12:48] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.241.6) left irc: [12:49] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:49] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.10.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:49] Elfo (no_w@83.240.167.193) left ##slackware. [12:49] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [12:51] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [12:51] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Client Quit [12:53] I have another question I blocked yahoo off my router and even tou I don't see its webpage content anymore on da browser, I can see connections from that domain comming from port 80 [12:53] why yahoo and not google? [12:53] a lot more spam domains too [12:53] like doublick, quantaserv etc [12:53] google is spying on you, yahoo doesnt [12:54] they all record [12:54] yahoo is your friend [12:54] answer me question don't argue [12:54] Nick change: eldragon -> maharba [12:55] i see da incmoming packets on my firewall monitor [12:55] try resetting your browser settings [12:55] i dont see a question [12:55] its not really slackware related is it [12:55] what can that help? u think cache is doing dat [12:56] bad addon, misconfigured setting etc... [12:56] perhaps even spyware [12:57] well, yahoo is partenered with microsoft, that makes it pretty bad [12:58] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:59] ki2azyone (~krazy@adsl-99-59-255-59.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:01] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [13:04] don't you mean barebacking ? [13:04] well, actually, yeah =) [13:05] "partnered" has undertones of appeal [13:05] neither of them separately appeals to me, let alone the combination [13:06] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.238) joined ##slackware. [13:08] does anyone know how to make dhcpcd and dhclient stop nuking my resolv.conf? [13:09] heviarti: there are options in dhcpcd for it. did you look? [13:09] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [13:09] look for 'RESOLV' [13:10] Patero-ng (~no@174-23-43-192.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: [13:13] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:13] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [13:14] adrien: looks like tere is a set of options somewhere else... [13:14] there [13:14] not sure, It' a shellscript and I can't tell whether it refrences from there or elsewhere [13:14] why not? [13:16] [ "${DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[$i]}" = "yes" ] && DHCP_OPTIONS="$DHCP_OPTIONS -R Leads me to believe DHCP_OPTIONS might be set elsewhere [13:16] in the .conf file [13:17] ki2azyone (~krazy@adsl-99-59-255-59.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:17] wow. we're becoming redhat. time to find a new distro. [13:18] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [13:19] and it's not working properly anyway. [13:19] it's set to yes and it overwrote anyway. [13:20] what is set to yes ? DHCP_KEEPRESOLVETH0 ? [13:20] wonder if i can't just remove 4 from all the perms... [13:20] I have my /etc/resolv.conf -> ppp/resolv.conf and it works nice [13:20] Hm hey folks. [13:20] It turns out Windows 7 is not so compatible with Lilo because it insists on its own bootmanager. [13:20] Hm.. [13:21] heviarti: netconfig as root is an easy way [13:21] lfjob: it is [13:21] lfjob: what you do is chainload lilo to the "boot" windows partition [13:22] How do I chainload? [13:22] foobarz: are you yur wn nameserver as well? [13:22] dang sticking o key.. [13:23] lfjob: mine, on three lines: 'other = /dev/sda1' 'label = Windows' 'table = /dev/sda' [13:23] heviarti: no... but if you are your own nameserver, why use dhcpd? I think you'd have your own IPs to be your own nameserver [13:23] Oh.. [13:24] heviarti: you can use caching name server, then dhcpd sends your local ip to hdcpd clients [13:25] adrien, I have that too but that loads to Windows XP. [13:25] sda1 is XP, sda2 is Slack, and sda3 is 7. [13:25] no, I'm a client and don't want to wait for the slow nameserver. so I'm running a copy of named with enough to do resolution. [13:26] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [13:26] lfjob: it should chainload windows bootmanager, I don't know on which partition [13:26] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE860.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] but [13:26] It boots straight into XP when I select the XP entry. Hm.. [13:26] the partition with the boot manager adds a bunch of files to the root of the filesystem (hidden by default) so you can find out quite easily [13:26] and you tried /dev/sda3? [13:27] Yeah. [13:27] I've done it for years. It used to be that the ISP I used had a twin PPro that was always slammed... so I just always ran my own copy of named and cut out the middleman. much faster. [13:27] It gives me an error. [13:28] Sigh let me try again, maybe I'm imagining things. [13:28] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [13:28] lfjob: windows/microsoft makes it horrible if not impossible to boot their OS directly: you can only chainload to windows' boot manager [13:28] rah [13:28] I think he needs to check the config on windows [13:29] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:30] lannders (~lannders@193-25.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:30] I've been migrating away from pc hardware. I stopped using windows in 1997. [13:31] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-76-147.ip101.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [13:31] ki2azyone (~krazy@adsl-99-59-255-185.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] you've never used The Best Windows (tm) ? [13:31] the last windows I ran and liked was 3.1 [13:31] 3.11 for workgroups was okay, too [13:31] and it had too many problems for me [13:32] Nick change: Guest39345 -> BiCHiTo [13:32] that's a pity, you haven't actually ever run a decent MS OS [13:32] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) left irc: Changing host [13:32] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) joined ##slackware. [13:32] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Where can found the console fonts on slackware? [13:33] adaptr: I had an NT 3.5.1 machine. it lasted 6 hours. [13:33] Axius: fntconfig [13:33] fontconfig even [13:33] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [13:33] adrien, you were right, I was imagining things. [13:33] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Remember Panzer, A dear friend. [13:33] adaptr: I've worked on other peoples windows boxes enough to know I don't want windows [13:33] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [13:34] heviarti, eh you don't play video games? [13:34] lfjob: quake2 [13:34] Bah. [13:34] Old games. [13:34] I just bought Wii, 360, now I have modern games. [13:34] Action: lfjob loves games. [13:35] untill they come up with a faster, more intuitive input system i'm not gonna fool with 'em. [13:35] Input system? [13:35] I like super robot wars III [13:35] So check out Kinect. [13:35] GArik_ (~wesnoth@89-179-108-77.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:35] I gotta admit, in terms of fancy GUI, Linux has a competitor which is Win7 which is why I installed it to begin with. [13:36] mice, keyboards, and joysticks just don't do the job for me. [13:36] What do you want to do? [13:38] lfjob: in all honesty think at it, but I think with enough sensors and accelerometers I could maybe cme up with something passable [13:39] there's the minddrive, but it's only a pointing device [13:39] ... [13:39] heviarti, eh, too hard for me. I'm just a good ol' compsci student, I dunno any physics or engineering to that level. [13:39] hello happy people [13:39] ashe (~ashe@125.163.8.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:40] Hello nyRednek. [13:40] lfjob: hey [13:41] lfjob: trying to mimic all the possible actions of a humanoid model with a couple f buttons just don't work well. [13:41] heviarti, Ah well. [13:41] ashe (~ashe@125.166.183.99) joined ##slackware. [13:41] heviarti: most games don't even attempt to mimic all possible actions of a humanoid model [13:42] heviarti: it's an exercise in futility to do so, in the fast majority of cases [13:42] nyRednek: perhaps that's because that's not feasible with current computational models [13:42] adaptr: essentially, yes [13:42] adaptr: and it will likely remain infeasible for at least a few years to come [13:43] until we get massively parallel physics nodes [13:43] lfjob: and the reason why i quit fooling around with console games after NES is the combinations necessary to do anything... completely counterintuitive.. "oh, you wanna ump left. that's 'up, up, dw, circle, star, L1, L1, select" [13:43] and reactant linked systems [13:43] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.238) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:43] lol [13:43] heviarti, you've been playing shitty games then. :D [13:43] Just look into Kinect. [13:43] the wii is pretty intuitive [13:43] Now if you wanna do a backflip, you can't blame me if you can't do it. [13:43] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.238) joined ##slackware. [13:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWyO5nOelzY [13:44] jimpy (~hamanspam@cpc3-nmal14-0-0-cust629.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [13:44] lnX (~lnx@201.250.11.97) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:45] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [13:45] Okay brb I gotta fix up some of my installs. [13:45] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [13:46] adaptr: what's funny, "virtual reality" is about 30 years old, give or take, yet it will likely never be realistic [13:46] Guest98380 (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] Guest98380 (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:46] virtual reality was in SGI, xD [13:47] maharba: I wish we could get that gl filemanager t work again... [13:47] maharba: as i said, about 30 years old, give or take [13:47] what was the failure of OpenGL ? [13:48] IRC is virtual reality [13:48] :b [13:48] if gnome-commander isn't enough for your file management needs, you're thinking about it too much [13:48] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:49] Playstation 3 is Virtual Reality [13:49] nyRednek: I foget what it's called right now, but you can find it n sourceforge [13:49] heviarti, check out eagle mode [13:50] nyRednek: fsv, It's called fsv and the damn thing won't compile anymore [13:50] heviarti: the end all-be all...mc [13:50] heviarti: and it's included in slack [13:50] Axius_ (~fd@109.97.47.179) joined ##slackware. [13:50] I'd love to have a working copy... compile it on my alpha [13:51] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.238) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:51] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] Nick change: ki2azyone -> ki2azy [13:51] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-131-033.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:51] What pkg do I need to have sound on Slackware? [13:52] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.10.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:54] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-76-161.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] nyRednek: thunar is pretty nice, but I'm likely moving away from xfce because it's stopped acting like CDE [13:54] Axius_: kernel source and alsa-utils [13:54] heviarti: ok [13:55] heviarti: kernel source for what? [13:55] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:56] nyRednek: either way, fsv is the schizwell, and it's a shame it's been neglected so long it is no longer compilable [13:56] heviarti: XFCE has stpped acting lice CDE a *long* time. [13:57] Axius_: kernel source [13:57] BP{k}: that is true. last one that acted like CDE was a 3 series release [13:58] you'll fgrive me lagging out... [13:58] Action: nyRednek is tempted to go back to afterstep [13:58] nyRednek: I used t run AS [13:58] so did i [13:58] 1.4.55.5N6 [13:58] i also use fvwm [13:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE860.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: brb [13:58] I get this error while running alsamixer:alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory [13:59] If that stupid openmotif would actulally cmpile i'd go to 5dwm [13:59] maybe lesstif for a bit [13:59] What should I do? [13:59] Axius_, try running alsaconf as root, then alsamixer, then alsactl store [14:00] http://fsv.sourceforge.net/ (---- collest filemanager ever [14:00] coolest even [14:01] dive: I've ran alsaconf then alsamixer and I get this error:ALSA lib conf.c:3009:(snd_config_update_r) Cannot access file /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf [14:01] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:02] I'm hooked up to an AP which is distant and sucky... [14:02] i like xfe (if i am forced to go gui) [14:02] hi, does xcdroast usually hang at total 99% for a ling while when burning an iso? [14:02] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE860.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] not a long time, but finalizing takes some time [14:04] the last line of my output window is starting new track t sector:0 [14:04] Axius_, looks like you dont have alsalib installed [14:04] track, fifo, writerbuffer are all at 100% [14:04] Axius_, ls /var/log/packages/alsa* [14:04] and total has been sitting at 99% for 10 minutes or so. [14:04] is this your own kernel? [14:05] dive: /var/log/packages/alsa-utils-1.0.18-i486-1 [14:05] Axius_, you need alsa-lib [14:05] cupucupu (~cupucupu@202.93.37.94) joined ##slackware. [14:05] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-156-95.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-185-111.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:07] i was reading the xcdroast website while i was waiting, and there's some binary called cdrecord-prodvd, the author says i'll need it to make a dvd. has anyone used this ? [14:07] dive: thanks, it's working. [14:07] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:08] blkdg, cdrecord now has dvd burning built in [14:08] thanks dive [14:09] used to be a separate branch and I think that's what that is [14:09] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-255-185.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:09] this is what i was reading http://www.xcdroast.org/manual/dvd.html#verify [14:10] hmm says it's a plugin there [14:12] i don't know what it is in reference to. [14:12] ki2azy (~krazy@99.88.57.18) joined ##slackware. [14:12] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [14:13] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:13] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [14:13] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:14] blkdg, the readme which is stated as to get a key is no longer there [14:14] I have a feeling that is very out of date [14:15] xcdroast is very out of date itself :P [14:15] not using k3b out of religion? =) [14:16] yeah I haven't found anything to top k3b except cli tools [14:17] ok i can't take this waiting. i canceled the burn session. [14:17] k3b remains my coaster-maker of choice. i've yet to find another app that makes coasters on demand as efficiently. [14:17] could someone look here http://pastebin.ca/1934500 [14:17] and another coffee coaster in the making [14:18] check out the 2nd paragraph break [14:18] that's what printed out after i cancelled the 99% total.... [14:18] what does it mean? [14:18] heviarti, have you checked out eagle mode yet? [14:19] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-185-111.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:19] slava_dp, no religious reasons, i could not get it to see the iso that i had. so i tried xcdroast. [14:19] looks like you have a Ricoh DVD burner that the driver is having issues with - non-standard vendor extensions or something [14:20] is this a 'slow the burn speed' issue, or a your burner sucks issue [14:20] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:20] try the "slow speed burn" first, but it might be a burner issue as well [14:20] ki2azy (~krazy@99.88.57.18) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:20] blkdg, I would find the latest firmware for your burner and flash it in. it might help. http://rpc1.org has lotsa firmwares. [14:21] this laptop is newish, and it takes forever to finish a disk... oki'll try the speed. thing [14:21] Kii-kun (~Kii-kun@92.0.31.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:21] i don't like the dev setting [14:21] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] try calling cdrecord directly, with dev=/dev/blah [14:22] also you use -dao which the drive reports only -sao (it seems). wouldn't hurt to change that too. [14:22] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [14:23] xcdroast sees 2 writers, 1000,0,0 and ATAT:1000,0,0 [14:23] i will change the dao [14:23] if it [14:23] yes, my gut feeling is that the device scanning stuff is oldish [14:23] n/m [14:24] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] i would put the actual device name in there, if it is /dev/sda or whataver it is [14:24] if someone said something to me I have no idea how to scroll back with itssi. [14:25] irssi even [14:25] heviarti, pageup/down :) [14:25] Mowah (~Mowah@c-248de555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:25] cool, dvd drive will not open. [14:25] slava_dp: no Idea what filemanager it is that you're talking abut having that mde. [14:25] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:25] brb [14:25] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:26] are there any little checks one should do to a server to make sure it hasnt been hacked etc [14:26] Kii-kun (~Kii-kun@92.19.113.67) joined ##slackware. [14:26] what kind of things should i run / look out for? [14:26] dustybin, get a rootkit check perhaps [14:27] chkrootkit [14:27] dive: isnt that a bit OTT? [14:27] well.. disk usage, and strange processes are a good indicator [14:27] but if the server is behaving then I doubt there's a problem [14:27] i imagine chkrootkit gives false results [14:27] why would you imagine that? [14:27] dont know [14:28] have you tried it? [14:28] we had a server get hacked some years ago that logged all kinds of connections... [14:28] lets not do any tests that have false positives [14:28] heviarti, http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/ <---- was that so hard to google? [14:28] we can start with most medical procedures [14:28] surlely your logs will give clues if your box has been hacked? [14:28] unless the hacker rm the logs [14:28] eeek [14:29] we found majr disk usage storing the logs, and it was eating processor time. [14:30] what is the difference between /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog [14:30] or edits the logs [14:30] Axius_ (~fd@109.97.47.179) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:30] dive, it's better to use the word ''attacker'' then ''hacker''. [14:30] hackers are good people. [14:30] true [14:31] crackers [14:31] dustybin: typically, system.log is what the kernel and system stuff writes to, messages.log is what programs log to [14:31] cheese and crackers [14:31] oh i see [14:31] i prefer childish asshole [14:31] but if you browse the log files, you should be able to get a feel for what each one does [14:31] or is used for rather [14:31] got a better ring then "cracker" [14:32] skript kiddie [14:32] its more than likely a program running on the box will be attacked so evidence will be in messages log [14:32] rob0: them too :) [14:32] unless mesages gets edited rm [14:32] I guess it all depends what they're trying to do [14:33] when i was using debian i didnt care much for security, now im using slackware im more worried [14:33] why?! [14:33] if it happened to be completely blowing up a callcenter's datacenter in India I'd be all for it [14:33] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. 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[14:52] when a problem occurs, what is the first thing you think of? [14:52] how do you guys troubleshoot problems properly [14:52] dustybin: it depends. [14:53] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-66-120-23-227.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:53] thumbs: at the moment, if there is a problem, i instantly think 'irc' [14:53] im sure that is not the right way to go about it [14:53] dustybin: man pages, reading logs, reading config file comments, etc [14:53] first step: define the problem [14:53] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [14:53] second step - see where the problem points to [14:54] thrid step - see if the problem might be related to hardware [14:54] first step: scream; second step: smack the kb; third step: calmly solve the problem [14:55] roberson (bd53e6db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.83.230.219) joined ##slackware. [14:55] although mancha has a more realistic approach :) [14:55] Wow... I don't know whose access point I'm on, but I gotta get 'em a better antenna [14:55] i need to teach them how to sesure their AP [14:56] s/sesure/secure [14:56] I'm using a negligible amount f bandwidth, and there's not any copper out here. [14:57] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0DA3F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Client Exiting [14:57] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [14:57] when i first go into linux, to me it feels like a whole new world, could the same happen again if i got involved in coding C / C++ [14:57] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-131-033.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [14:59] have a way to run a VMWARE into a Citrix client? 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[15:05] hi, i changed the xcdroast pref to the dev ata:1000,0,0 and lowered the speed to 10, but it still is hanging at 99% total [15:05] the session has been runninh for over 10 miunutes. [15:06] i left the session type at dao because i did not see sao [15:06] i made my suggestion [15:06] hmmm - the only time k3b hung up on closing the session for me was the new version and trying to make a multi-session combination audio/data cd [15:06] using cdrecord on its own will be my next try mancha ! [15:07] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:08] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [15:08] again I say I need to get them folks a bigger antenna [15:11] larry (~larry@ppp-70-245-111-102.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:11] stinky (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) joined ##slackware. [15:12] stinky (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) left irc: Client Quit [15:12] stinky (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) joined ##slackware. [15:13] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:18] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [15:21] larry (~larry@ppp-70-245-111-102.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: l8r [15:22] anyone know how to set up a printer [15:22] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [15:23] The CUPS Web interface is pretty simple. [15:24] ok but the hp printer managment dos not see the printer [15:24] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [15:27] says there is no connetion to that web interface [15:28] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-185-111.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:28] alright well thanks any way [15:29] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:29] Guest11811 (randy@2002:cfc0:47b1:feed:babe:dead:beef:1) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:30] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:30] hp print manager only looks at hp printers locally attached - if it's not an hp printer then the hp printer admn may not work [15:31] if it's a non-hp printer, then go through cups web interface - make sure that cups is running and point your browser to localhost:631 [15:31] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:33] mancha, when i try cdrecord -scanbus i see 0,0,0 0) 'ATA ' 'Hitachi HTS54323' 'FB4O' Disk [15:33] under scsibus0 [15:33] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.48) joined ##slackware. [15:35] so when i try cdrecord dev=/dev/sda0 -checkdrive it cannot open dev.sda0 [15:35] don't scanbus [15:35] what is the device of your drive? [15:35] is it /dev/sr0 ? what version of slackware do you have? [15:35] anyone here use MD enough t know why my array doesn't start during boot? [15:35] and is it the only rw drive on your systm? [15:36] slackware 13.0 [15:36] here is fstab [15:36] #/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,owner,ro 0 0 [15:36] blkdg, i don't care about the slackware version, give me the raw device [15:36] unplug it and plug it, and look at dmesg [15:36] if you check, /dev/cdrom is a link to your real device - like /dev/hdc or something. but slackware 13.1 changed libata so everything comes up sda now [15:37] or sd[a,b,c,d] rather [15:37] one sec [15:38] not to mention that the fstab entry is commented out, so you can't mount /dev/cdrom without the full mount command/options [15:38] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.48) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:39] my dmesg is full of this hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown [15:39] pages and pages. [15:39] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:39] is your burner set to master on the first ide interface? or is that your hard drive? (hda) [15:39] well that's not good. is this drive removable or not? [15:40] the cdrom will not eject. i wil have to reboot [15:40] is the drive external or innteranl? [15:41] internal [15:41] it is removable [15:41] this is a laptop [15:41] ok but on a removable bay, i was thinking usb [15:42] heviarti, have you configured your array in /etc/mdadm.conf? [15:42] first things first, find out what device is being assigned to your dvd drive [15:42] meatpuppet: yes I have. [15:42] ping me when you have an answer to that question. [15:42] looking in var log messages [15:42] heviarti, and it works when you add it manually post boot? [15:42] meatpuppet: like a riot. [15:42] mancha, i found this Sep 6 07:41:29 slack2 kernel: hda: PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTD08RS, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [15:43] ok, so /dev/hda [15:43] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [15:43] I forgot to assemble it before I started X... so I had to unmount it and remunt it.. 13 has sme kinda something that automatically mounts disks [15:44] i suggest a cdrecord line with -dev=/dev/hda then, maybe speed=16 (not 24) and -tao not -dao [15:44] er not -dev=/dev/hda just dev=/dev/hda [15:44] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:45] i also found this Sep 6 07:41:29 slack2 kernel: ide-cd: hda: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM DVD-R/RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2000kB Cache [15:45] and no gracetime and no driveropts [15:45] heviarti, did you add the array manually, or did you use mdstat --examine --scan >> mdadm.conf? [15:45] *mdamd [15:45] bleh [15:46] ok i will reboot and try [15:46] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:46] if you make those changes, it should work, unless your HW is bad. [15:46] I added it manually [15:46] try running that command instead, it should produce a line looking like this, that you should embed at the end of the file [15:47] ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID= [15:47] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-60-193.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:47] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.122) joined ##slackware. [15:49] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:49] heviarti, sorry, thats supposed to be "mdadm -Es /dev/sdX >> /etc/mdadm.conf" [15:49] where /dev/sdx is the device containing the partition marked as "fd" in fdisk [15:50] ARRAY /dev/md0 UUID=2e8fca5d:3d385fa8:93696d29:a3e2c4b7 I've got the uuids and all.. [15:50] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5F23.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [15:51] heviarti, that should really do the trick [15:52] apparently there is no mdstat [15:53] heviarti, yeah, my bad, it was supposed to be mdadm, mix between mdadm and "cat /proc/mdstat" :p [15:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:55] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.35) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [15:57] meatpuppet: YOu mean the fact I have the device and uuids specified, alng with the device names in the devices section? [15:59] heviarti, technically the devices *should* not absolutely *have* to be defined, the ARRAY line should do the magic, but there is no harm in defining the DEVICE section as well :) [16:00] heviarti, that is unless you are running your mdarray on movable nodes, like say usb drives that move around ;) [16:01] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-107.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Fish_Kungfu (~Fish_Kung@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] meatpuppet: no, they're 9 gig scsi disks [16:01] 9G disks? kinda small nowadays [16:01] but then I'm used to 1T and 2T drives [16:01] meatpuppet: so my having the uuids should be wrking... so why is it there is no /dev/md0 when I login? [16:02] alisonken1home: if you have sme scsi drives larger than 9 gig you'd like t give me I'll take all of 'em I can carry [16:02] we stopped scsi some time ago and switched to sata - no more scsi drives :) [16:03] I'd kill the president of paraguay with a fork for some 36s or 73s [16:03] heviarti, i am just retiring 10x 36.7gb 15k scsi's due to my excessive power bill :p; [16:03] well, send Nicanor by and I'll jab him with a fork. [16:04] I've actually had disks dropping like flies lately. [16:04] Including a 23 gig brick I had maybe an hour n. [16:04] I have a shelf full of seagate drives waiting to go back for rma [16:04] and yes - a shelf full. like 8-10 boxes worth [16:04] at least [16:04] all the ones that die on me are $%#%#@ seagate [16:05] I've been considering sending 'em a crate with all the seagates I've had die and tell 'em to sit on 'em. [16:05] I have some 36G fufitsu drives going back for rma - but the seagates are the predominant rma drives for us [16:05] yeah, got a solid stash of cheetah's with large X'es on them here as well :) [16:05] I got some old 1 gig 'Jits hammerheads.. [16:06] I wish they made that disk with a bigger capacity [16:06] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! [16:06] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] full height 3.5s with exposed magnets [16:07] beefy as heck [16:07] have a way to run a VMWARE (server) into a Citrix client? [16:08] meatpuppet: are these 36s 68s or 80s? [16:08] roberson: my guess is run vmware on the server and see if citrix client can connect to it [16:08] heviarti, these specific ones are the 80 pin backplane connector, U320 disks [16:08] crap [16:08] I can only fit one of them in my intel box [16:09] and odds are they don't have sun firmware, do they? [16:09] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [16:09] alisonken1home: yep [16:09] assist cedron [16:09] sigh... [16:09] heviarti, afraid not [16:10] heviarti, the 80 to 68 pin converters are dirt cheap off ebay thought.. [16:10] meatpuppet: yu dn't dare use more than three on one chain [16:10] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] heviarti, i run one array with four disks like that!! hehe, but thats a special condition though, and its only U160 anyways [16:11] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:11] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:11] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5F23.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:11] I'm running an adaptec 2940uw [16:12] this servers running an Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m (rev 02) [16:12] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [16:12] those were nice cards when they came out [16:12] the 2940uw [16:12] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [16:13] yeah, I've not scrapped out anything that new [16:13] alisonken1home: the 1TB drive is bad, im getting bad blocks again [16:13] KaMii: you're not very lucky with hard drives, are you? [16:13] I ran smartctl but it said everything passed [16:13] KaMii: would it perchance be a seagate drive? :) [16:13] no its Western Digital [16:13] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5F23.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] i prefer LSI to Adaptec to be entirely honest, all my backlpanes are running LSI's only [16:13] didn't WD get bought out by somebody? [16:14] alisonken1home: yes [16:14] but when the box showed up, it looked like the mail man ran over it with his truck, so I thought it would die [16:14] meatpuppet: I do have a raid controller with an i960 on it... but it only supports two sizes of drive.. [16:14] but its under warranty and the company is going to replace it [16:14] i got a computer case like that once, it was so bad, i asked the driver why they went thru the trouble of delivering it [16:14] I alwasy had good luck with WD [16:15] so I stick with them, I blame the post for this HDD [16:15] the power supply bay was bent [16:16] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:16] btw, you don't have to accept damaged packages [16:16] Ya. [16:16] Fish_Kungfu (~Fish_Kung@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: "When mind control works, you won't know it." [16:16] If the PO gives you a badly packaged stuff, you can refuse. [16:16] It might not even be the PO's fault. [16:16] heviarti, if you happen to be down under i got a ton of scsi's i am getting rid of for cheap :) [16:16] Sometimes the packager is just lazy,. [16:16] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.35) left ##slackware. [16:17] mine looked like they put it beween the loading doc and the truck as a cushion [16:17] meatpuppet: no, alas I'm in Letha, Id. [16:17] i've never seen something so mangled [16:17] meatpuppet: which is basically Woop Woop [16:17] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [16:18] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:19] when is slackware 13.3t going to be released? [16:19] meatpuppet: if I ever stop in that part of the world I need to go to NZ however... [16:20] foobarz: sometime after 13.2 - unless pat goes to 14.0 [16:20] i wonder if they're ever going to gix the three big slacware issues ever? [16:20] heviarti, NZ is even more remote and desolate than Aus :) [16:20] heviarti: ? [16:21] nz just had a 7.1 quake [16:21] s/gix/fix/ [16:21] Mowah (~Mowah@c-248de555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:22] alisonken1home: Slackware boxes never retain DST changes. In system maintenance mode 'continue with normal boot' never does so... it always reboots the system. [16:23] alisonken1home: i foget what the other one is right now but it'll piss me off soon enough and i'll remember [16:23] meatpuppet: I have smewhere specific I have to go [16:23] heviarti: DST changes are based on having your timezone set properly. maintenance mode will always reboot because you may have done something to the boot/root disk that would affect the system [16:24] dst works fine for me [16:24] meatpuppet: It's called Deloraine, and it's in the Meander River Council [16:25] alisonken1home: and my timezone has been set as "America, Boise" since my first slackware box... and I've never EVER had a slackware box retain the time change after a reboot. [16:25] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:25] Huh? I set the time once and never worry. YDIW. [16:25] alisonken1home: I tried some other distros, and they continued booting. [16:25] heviarti, my knowledge of NZ geography limits itself to wellington being on top of an active volcano, they get snow some places, and bad taste and braindead was filmed there :) [16:26] meatpuppet: there's a band there that plays bush music. [16:27] Set the hardware clock to UTC, choose UTC in timeconfig, run ntpd, enjoy. [16:27] heviarti: two things then - make sure your bios is set correctly, and set /etc/ntp.conf to us.pool.ntp.org [16:27] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5F23.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:27] bios clock that is [16:27] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:27] That particular "big Slackware issue" was fixed in 1993 or so. [16:27] I always use tick.usno.navy.mil [16:28] maconga (~maconga@h111.176.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] rob0: I"m doubting it because EVERY slackware machine I've had since release 3.4 has acted that way [16:28] I started with 3.6 and did not have that problem, ever. [16:28] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [16:29] I upgraded to 13 earlier this year... we'll see if it still does it or not pretty soon. [16:29] always reverts after reboots. [16:29] cmair (~cmair@host248-27-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:29] Set the hardware clock to UTC? Did you choose UTC in timeconfig? [16:30] no, I set it to local and set my timezone as America, Boise [16:30] is there any way to get my usb keyboard to work with lilo? [16:30] bunnyboi: check your bis for usb keyboard support and legacy usb support. [16:30] make sure they're both on. [16:30] a ps/2 one works fine, and i can use the usb keyboard to get into my bios. [16:30] in bios set usb style to legacy [16:31] or get a usb->ps/2 adapter [16:31] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:32] choppernator (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:32] I need to find one of them usb sun keyboards.. [16:33] that's about the nly thing i'd replace the one I have with [16:33] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:33] I've got anold gateway anykey [16:33] Nick change: chopp -> Guest75383 [16:34] maconga (~maconga@h111.176.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:34] Nick change: choppernator -> chopp [16:35] Localtime means you have to resync the hardware clock at least twice a year, but that is done on a normal, clean shutdown anyway, so unless it's not running during the change, it will work. But indeed UTC is the better choice. [16:38] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] rob0: nope. doesn't retain it through a nrmal shutdown [16:41] rob0: and that's what bugs me. [16:42] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:43] here's a weird problem. i'm having a problem with my locale. here is the pastebin of the error: http://pastebin.com/yLBhayaC anyway to fix it? reinstalling glibc seems to fix it until i reboot\ [16:45] heviarti, i experience this with certain systems myself, especially the Dell bios seem to totally ignore anything set with hwclock -w.. [16:46] meatpuppet: Blackops, Semirhage, Harvey, Psyops, and Scorpius.... all dfferent types of hardware.. all did it. [16:47] hey.. i just found my .45! [16:47] wished I could find mine :) [16:47] omg! don't shoot!! [16:47] heviarti, ill swap your for some scsis :) [16:47] Action: rob0 hides behind alisonken1home [16:48] meatpuppet: uh... nuh. [16:48] meatpuppet: i like my .45... and My luger... and my mauser.. [16:49] heviarti, yeah, no chance of owning a gun in this country [16:49] and my Colt Woodsman [16:49] heviarti, been considering to move to Canada though, their gun and drug laws are great :) [16:49] meatpuppet: I thought there was ne of the states where you culd wn anything meant to be served by one man? [16:49] meatpuppet: you'll practically be next dor [16:50] meatpuppet: in canada you can get sme stuff we can't get in the US [16:50] k-wizzz (~chris@e181007110.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:50] like anything made by Sport Systeme Dittrich [16:50] heviarti, yeah, i am not an Australian national, i am just living here for some unknown reason, originally i'm from northern europe.. at home theres rifles :) here you need a license just to get a .22! :p [16:51] or new chinese M14s and Norinco 1911s [16:51] k-wizzz (chris@e181007110.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [16:51] meatpuppet: Deutsches? [16:51] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] heviarti, nope, norwegian :) [16:51] well, You're better'n the last norwegian I knew [16:52] heviarti, for being an American you are not so bad yourself :) [16:53] heviarti, australia will probably not get decent internet in a decade, and i cant wait that long for fiber [16:54] Appetite (titan@68.67.76.91) joined ##slackware. [16:54] of course I can't say about Per Johansen... I don't know him more than buying vacuum parts from him.. he's prolly better'n Jim Van Ness even if he was a Nazi. [16:54] meatpuppet: I'd not mind going to australia for a while... but i don't think i could be away frm a gun that long. [16:54] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] heviarti, i love guns, drugs and free speech, something Australia seem to lack somewhat [16:55] meatpuppet: do you like switchblades? [16:55] k-wizzz (~chris@e181007110.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:56] heviarti, no, i prefer regular knives, the only switchblade i have is a SOG Pentagon II, but with the ArcLoc its nearly as strong as fixedblade when open [16:57] meatpuppet: enh. you qualify. www.talkblade.info [16:57] heviarti, since knives and pepperspray is pretty much the only things that legal here, its healty to have a good stock :) [16:57] heviarti, where to start :) [16:58] meatpuppet: I prefer a shovel or an axe for non-firearm weapons [16:59] heviarti, my favourites are the fox impact z60 teflon :) http://www.filofiel.com/tienda/images/fox%20z60%20impact%20466.JPG [16:59] heviarti, i am a sucker for a good knife [16:59] meatpuppet: what I need is a sap [16:59] heviarti, most of my knives are from SOG though, they make some nice blades [16:59] then i can stop carrying my chain wallet fulla tire weights [17:00] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:00] meatpuppet: my 'for people' knife is a gerber mark II [17:00] heviarti, mine may well be the http://www.filofiel.com/tienda/images/SOG%20DAGGER%20II%20NEGRA.jpg [17:02] Odd that that store's urls are in spanish. you guys dn't share a border with mexico... [17:02] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-250.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] heviarti, nah, bought it locally from an Aussie surplus shop, thats just a random store i found [17:05] tekzilla (~jon@d129055.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:06] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [17:06] tekzilla (~jon@d067031.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [17:07] I thought any nn-english speaking store in that area would mre likely speak an asian language [17:10] heviarti, they do [17:10] newslacker (~root@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] heviarti, on the talk of guns, we just got raided by the Australian's version of the DEA tactical strike team the other day, guns and door smashers (whatever those are called), the lot. [17:12] Nick change: chopp -> Guest16644 [17:13] heviarti, they thought we were growers, since our power bill was so damned high, haha, stupid cops [17:13] Nick change: Guest75383 -> chopp [17:13] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:14] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:17] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:18] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [17:19] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [17:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: shonudo [17:20] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.122) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:20] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:21] Mowah (~Mowah@c-248de555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:22] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:23] i tried the slackpkg upgrade-all command last night from kde in the emulated terminal to upgrade from 13.0 to 13.1 and after it ran through everything i tried to reboot and the system wouldnt boot back up [17:23] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:24] newslacker, did you run lilo? [17:24] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [17:24] it went through everything on its own [17:24] the it to hit y to run lilo but instead of letting me run lilo it kept going through the upgrade [17:25] it asked me to run lilo but then kept going instead of letting me run it [17:25] newslacker, at approximatley what point does the boot process die? [17:26] it dies before i can log in [17:26] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:27] newslacker, you may have to run lilo manually, i am not aware of any way of doing this but booting the installdisk and chroot to your install, and run lilo again from there [17:28] i was wondering if maybe the problem may of been cause i ran it from kde instead of from the command prompt in single user mode [17:28] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [17:29] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] newslacker, that should not make much of a difference, what probably happened was a kernel upgrade, and lilo has not been updated for to reflect this [17:30] saavedra29 (~slaris@ppp-94-64-162-231.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:31] newslacker, unless you have some custom hardware that requires you to run a custom kernel [17:31] rinhagemi (~textual@88-106-108-4.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:31] newslacker, like a strange or random scsi or sata controller etc. [17:31] well im running the default kernal that comes on the os the only changes i made at all was adding the broadcom driver for my wifi [17:32] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:32] that came from slackbuilds [17:32] newslacker, then lilo may well be a likely cause for this [17:32] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:33] i see [17:33] newslacker, are you familiar with chroot? [17:33] ahh i didnt need to change to root in order to do the upgrade because it was a fresh install and i was going to upgrade as root before setting up the rest of the users [17:34] I generally compile my own kernel.. or did until the latest 2.6s, which are proving difficult to compile in a usable fashion [17:34] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.10.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:34] how so ? [17:34] I found it quite doable with an hour of reading unfamiliar options [17:34] it's about 3MB now, lean-ish and mean [17:35] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:35] newslacker, you should consider doing this: reboot with the slackware dvd, where you would normally write "setup" you write "mount /dev/sdX /mnt", then chroot /mnt, and run lilo from there, exit the chroot, and reboot [17:36] jemark (~mark@86-40-57-163-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [17:36] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [17:38] adaptr: i keep ending up with kernels that won't generate video. [17:38] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] "generate" being what, exactly ? [17:38] AndroUser2 (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] it helps if you include at least some video drivers [17:39] back outside grilling [17:39] VESA is a good one [17:39] AndroUser2 (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:40] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCE4C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:41] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:43] adaptr: when the kernel boots it can't seem to find /dev/console [17:43] saavedra29 (slaris@ppp-94-64-162-231.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware ("‘À¿ÇÎÁ·Ãµ"). [17:44] so you forgot to include HAL / udev hooks [17:44] you can't really [17:44] or you simply didn't include a console [17:44] don't touch what you don't understand, is the motto :) [17:44] ln -s /dev/null /dev/console [17:44] I probably compiled 15 kernels before I gave up [17:45] :-P [17:45] tsccof (~tsccof@189-10-130-219.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[17:51] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:51] adaptr: I've been successfully compiling kernels since 2.1.132. the more recent 2.6s are ridiculously complex [17:52] really? it hink it's much simpler these dyas [17:52] I can't compare, but I think compiling 2.6.X is quite easy too [17:52] bit slow on my box, though [17:53] I built 2.6.33 or something a few weeks back, wasn';t sure about some of the options, no problem, build them as modules! [17:53] i think understanding the implications of compliation options to support userspace programs has been alot more convoluted [17:53] Skywise: agreed [17:53] such as modprobe not being able to remove modules in some kernels [17:53] that's an important feature [17:54] tmkd (1448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) joined ##slackware. [17:54] can you say in 1 sentence what options you'd need to play music under kde [17:54] for the average desktop user [17:54] i couldn't [17:54] is anyone running 2.6.35.4? [17:55] redslack (~redness@c122-108-165-14.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:55] one one box i am [17:55] i only upgrade kernels when i have an issue [17:55] mancha: is it rock solid? [17:55] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] i don't let users on my system so i don't need the security fixes so much [17:55] tsccof not sure how to answer that, hasn't oops'd or panicked yet [17:55] HA! [17:55] Skywise: thats a good one [17:56] Kii-kun (~Kii-kun@92.19.113.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:56] for me thats step 1 in securing a system [17:56] Skywise: will copy your last phrase and spam it on #openbsd [17:56] get the users off [17:56] lol [17:56] weird, how did what mancha just say ping me? [17:56] redslack (~redness@c122-108-165-14.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:57] oh, because panicked has the word nick in it, and for some reason if anyone says nick I get pinged even if its inside a word..... [17:57] wow my irssi is screwy [17:57] no, you did it wrong [17:57] nick [17:57] yeah, you did it wrong [17:58] its doing exactly what you told it to. [17:58] mwalling: thats what I mean when i said MY irssi is screwy [17:58] nick [17:58] Now, it's fine, you just told it to do something you didn't want it to do [17:58] *No [17:59] KaMii: you probably want to make a 'word' alias [17:59] probably, but i cant figure out how to change it [17:59] nick [17:59] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:59] nickle! [17:59] KaMii: /unalias [17:59] nick first [18:00] ok, enough nickling [18:00] no such alias nick [18:00] uhm... [18:00] /help hilight [18:00] oh [18:00] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-94-248.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:00] hilight [18:00] and /help unhilight [18:00] yeah [18:00] nick [18:00] whoops [18:00] nick [18:00] salt nick fail [18:01] no such help file [18:01] nick [18:02] oh its dehilight [18:02] meh [18:02] meh [18:02] ok try to say nick again [18:02] no [18:02] please [18:02] never [18:02] i think i fixed it [18:02] lies [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425468.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:04] nick [18:05] thanks, it works! [18:05] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:05] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:05] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425468.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] k-wizzz (chris@e181007110.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [18:06] :) [18:06] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [18:07] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:07] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-76-161.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:07] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] that put an end to that game :/ [18:08] KaMii: get the issue on again [18:08] meh, maybe tomorrow [18:09] :( [18:10] whoever helped him/her solve the problem now owes us new entertainment [18:11] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.10.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:12] what did the monkey say at 11:58 on the train tracks? [18:12] it won't be long now.... [18:12] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-76-161.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] ^^ thats not even funny [18:14] sheesh, its not a real monkey [18:14] ya, everyone knows monkeys dont talk [18:16] indeed. they just use sign language. [18:18] if throwing poop is sign language [18:18] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:18] you'd be surprised [18:18] eating poop is sign language for stop staring at me in my cage [18:18] ewww [18:18] lol [18:19] KaMii: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky [18:19] Slackware doesn't find my IDE drive :( [18:20] and I've no idea why [18:20] NyteOwl: thats probably a kernel issue, i had the same problem [18:20] you need to reconfigure your kernel [18:20] and the sky is blue today [18:21] no, i'm quite happy actually [18:21] Why should I need to reconfigure the kernel to find an HDD? [18:21] yeah, the default kernel should work for everything [18:21] you wou,dn;t [18:21] because KaMii said so [18:21] you don't, you only need to in order to find it where you expect it [18:21] unless you need to upgrade the thing [18:22] which happened to me once [18:22] i find in these situations it works if i retrace my steps... [18:22] NyteOwl: you could start by telling us whether it's a new issue or an existing one [18:22] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:22] not to mention, did you check whether the bios can see it? [18:22] I just took the IDE drive out of my older slackware machine to copy over some files and reformat it. But Slack can't even find it [18:22] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:23] Yes BIOS sees it fine [18:23] so you took it out of one machine, and put it in another, i assume? [18:23] and by 'slack can't even find it', you mean what exactly? how did you check for its presence? [18:23] yes. It's the only PATA drive in this machine. everything else is SATA [18:24] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [18:24] ananke; fdisk -l (which usually works fine) [18:24] NyteOwl: do you run a custom kernel? [18:24] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-113-191.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:24] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [18:24] ananke; no, stock kernel [18:25] does the machine know it is there (forget the OS) [18:25] post the output of 'dmesg' on pastebin.com, and let's take a look at it [18:25] mancha: see above, looks like bios sees it [18:25] oh, missed that. [18:25] mancha: yes the bIOS knows it's there. It even lists it amongst the boot options heh [18:25] i bet udev don't like it [18:26] does slackware come with lsscsi yet? [18:26] yes [18:26] NyteOwl: post the output of 'lsscsi' along dmesg. [18:27] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:28] NyteOwl (sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:29] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:29] oops [18:34] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [18:36] ananke; dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/1934645 [18:36] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:37] is lighttdp faster than apache? [18:37] ananke; lssscsi: http://pastebin.ca/1934649 [18:37] the latter is just the SATA stuff [18:40] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Disconnected by services [18:40] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [18:45] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:47] atof (~jason@124.106.151.172) joined ##slackware. [18:50] tsccof1 (~tsccof@201-89-155-184.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[19:14] back [19:15] I gotta say I'm quite impressed with Win7. [19:18] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [19:18] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:19] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [19:22] hackedhead (~hackedhea@static-64-22-43-198.albyny.csvoip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] hackedhead (~hackedhea@static-64-22-43-198.albyny.csvoip.net) left irc: Changing host [19:22] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [19:23] anything good in your dmesg? [19:23] nope [19:23] it's liek the drive isn't even there [19:25] Nick change: akmalhamdani -> tsuyoi [19:26] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:26] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [19:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:15] NyteOwl: Be well my friend. [20:15] thnks Hopsa [20:15] Np [20:17] Atters (~chatzilla@173-26-161-51.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:18] NyteOwl: Do you think theres something as "we cant hire him because he is too good" /they get iffy etc ? [20:18] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:19] NyteOwl: I know there is, tapped. [20:19] Hopsa not sure I'm following you. I've been in and out here playing with hardware [20:19] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [20:20] Atters (chatzilla@173-26-161-51.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [20:21] psykhe (~psykhe@187.36.129.240) joined ##slackware. [20:22] Anyone know how to get Qt to pick up a GTK theme and apply to applications inside a GTK based DM such as XFCE using such apps such as Skype? [20:22] redslack_ (~redness@c122-108-221-53.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:23] redslack (~redness@c122-108-165-14.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:24] NyteOwl: You have left simoriah and dalnetters (except snl20) i take it ? [20:24] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] snl20 was cool [20:25] no, I pop in now and then [20:25] Youre ok. Good. [20:27] We always need a night owl. [20:29] NyteOwl: Have you constructed some nice server setups in the past years ? [20:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:31] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] greetings and salutations [20:32] Hopsa, a couple [20:32] hi andarius [20:33] Howdy andarius [20:34] NyteOwl: I run a small torque cluster... PBS_x etc. What do you think of the prestanda ? [20:34] If youve tried one.. [20:35] Anyhow, this winter ill assemble alot of mini computers to bring into it. Could become nice. 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[20:52] Ask SCrye, that's his domain (or was) [20:52] Thx. [20:52] Hmm, ive seen him. He is much nicer nowdays [20:52] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:53] How is he doing btw ? [20:53] no idea, haven't spoken to him in ages [20:53] I see.. hmm, hmm. [20:54] NyteOwl: Is snl20 ok nowdays ? [20:55] I guess so. He was on Dal Linux a few days ago when I was there [20:55] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:55] Even he got a bit grumpy when i talked to him 3 years ago maybe. [20:56] What matters is the people i like is ok. [20:56] And most others for that matter :) [20:56] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:57] :) [20:57] Well, I'm hading out. g'night all [20:57] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [20:57] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:01] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [21:03] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:07] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:09] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: tltstc [21:10] bye, bye [21:10] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:11] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. 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[21:56] meatpuppet (~infected@203-59-73-131.perm.iinet.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:57] goj (~goj@p4FE6B7AF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:58] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:58] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] meatpuppet (~infected@203-59-73-131.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:01] mmm pat did a upgrade in the current tree and i don't see a fix to the audacious-plugins compiled against an old libmowli [22:02] meatpuppet (~infected@203-59-73-131.perm.iinet.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [22:02] meatpuppet (~infected@203-59-73-131.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:02] does anyone in here have experience using dhcpd and using custom options and hooks? [22:03] you taking resume's or do you have a question [22:04] who [22:06] Skywise, I have been reading documentation about using custom options and hooks to trigger events but the documentation is hard to follow and examples are limited, I want to play around with the options to see what is potential to be triggered by the dhcpd server. [22:06] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:06] I am having a problem setting up wireless on my new slackware computer [22:06] I am brand new to linux and can't get it working at all [22:07] I tried using wicd but it didn't help [22:07] This computer is a laptop [22:07] Skywise, I have just gotten so confused with the lack of clear documentation that I figured someone in here may shine some light on the functions and how to use them. [22:07] if I type iwconfig, it says [22:07] phil___, do you know if a driver has been loaded for your wireless card? [22:08] no I don't know if one has [22:08] you really should take a simple example, try it and see how its similar to what you want to do and adapt it [22:08] phil___, do you know what kind of wireless card it is using? [22:08] I think it is by broadcom [22:08] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:08] is there a command for me to find out [22:08] maybe first thing is just echoing the enviroment variables [22:09] phil___, have you done a google search to see if others have reported errors with that card on slackware? [22:09] no, I'll do that now [22:09] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:09] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:10] phil___, I have had very bad luck getting broadcom cards to work on linux distros, in the cases where it would work I had to user ndiswrapper to load the windowsxp drivers for linux to use. [22:10] hmm [22:10] phil___, I have been trying to see where the user supplied options are output first or how to get them to output, but again I am lost [22:10] Skywise, I have been trying to see where the user supplied options are output first or how to get them to output, but again I am lost [22:10] phil, sorry that want sent to the wrong person [22:11] lol [22:11] i would think the options would be in the config files and not on the command line [22:12] What's the official email of Pat, to tell him a problem in slackware? [22:12] Skywise, is there an option I have to set in dhcpcd.conf or dhcpd.conf to tell the service to output the options received from the server. [22:12] gabriel_, if you can figure that out, i don't think you can find something they aren't aware of [22:12] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [22:12] lol [22:13] is there a way I can find the name of a wireless card on my computer [22:13] phill___ try this to check what wireless hw you have: /sbin/lspci | grep 802 [22:13] this is outputted: [22:13] phil___: or just: /sbin/lspci [22:13] you wanna paste many lines in a pastebin [22:13] not on the channel [22:13] 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) [22:14] yeah it's just one line [22:14] phil___: okay so it is Broadcom [22:14] darn [22:14] Skywise, so far I have put a user-defined string option in dhcpd.conf on the server and have watched the tcpdump to try to see the movement, but I have yet to see how it is output on the client [22:15] Skywise, are you in the current tree? [22:15] nope [22:15] mfillpot, would this be of help to getting it to work [22:15] http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [22:15] mfillpot, ok well how your client behaves with the triggers might not be in your control [22:16] hba (~hba@189.188.105.143) joined ##slackware. [22:16] well...the problem is that Pat updated libmowli but he don't updated some audacious plugins that depends of libmowgli [22:16] I'm sorry this is so stupid, but if I had the 64 bit version of windows 7 before I installed slackware, does that mean I have the 64 bit slackware too [22:16] or did I probably get 32 bit slack [22:17] You got whatever you downloaded [22:17] ok thank you [22:17] can someone please give the output of 'java -version' in -current? [22:18] Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_21-b06) [22:18] Jav [22:18] Skywise, I realyl want to know how to capture the optional events to trigger scripts, some docs show it being output in the dhcpd.enter-hook and .exit hooks files, but those have not yet been created. Am I just missing something in the documentation that I should revisit? [22:19] gabriel_: ah ok, thanks :) [22:19] phil___: To see if you have installed the 64-bit version of Slackware try this: uname -a [22:19] You are welcome hba [22:20] Fish_Kungfu: I don't see wether it's 64 or 32 bits in that [22:20] what does uname -a say phil___ ? [22:20] it says [22:21] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:21] drumroll..... :-p [22:21] Linux pelican 2.6.33.4-smp #2 SMP Wed May 12 22:47:36 CDT 2010 i686 Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU t4500 @ 2.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [22:21] sorry I had to type that all [22:21] 32bit [22:21] what indicates that [22:21] yep 32bit [22:22] i686 [22:22] so... anybody actually understand the whole gain thing with wireless antennas? [22:22] what would 64 be [22:22] if it were x86_64 [22:22] oh ok thank you [22:22] something similar to this: Linux destiny 2.6.34-12-default #1 SMP 2010-06-29 02:39:08 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [22:23] I also have another question, how do people using linux without a graphical environment browse the internet [22:23] is it only with things like lynx? [22:23] links/lynx both work [22:27] you can hit the webpages using links/lynx, chat using irssi and brows ftp directories using ftp [22:28] lftp [22:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:30] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] hmm [22:31] I am trying to make a driver and I get the error "linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory" [22:31] I am sorry to bother you all with these newbish questions but I am trying hard to get this computer on wireless by tomorrow [22:31] what are you doing when you get that error? [22:32] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:32] just the make command [22:32] on this page [22:32] http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [22:32] Do you have to run ./configure first or anything? [22:32] there is no configure file [22:32] phil___: Did you do a full install of Slackware? [22:32] and it's not in the directions [22:32] yes, full install with all software except k whatever [22:32] is there an autogen.sh ? [22:33] no, there is directory lib, dir src, Makefile and README.txt [22:33] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:33] I am following the txt's instructions [22:33] Hrm.. never built that driver [22:33] you can see the source from the link I pasted, it is the 32 bit v ersion I am building [22:33] I thought there was broadcom firmware in extra/ [22:34] let me check that [22:34] huh maybe there isn't [22:34] I don't see any [22:34] unless it is poorly named [22:34] what chipset is the card [22:35] I'm not sure, how can I tell [22:35] does lspci show you anything? [22:35] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [22:35] yes, a lot of stuff [22:36] what do you see for 'wireless' or the like? [22:36] when building a kernel module (the driver), you will need to have the kernel source code package installed, and the module build scripts need know the location of the kernel source if it does figure that out on it's own right [22:36] phil___, have you tried just running "modprobe b43" as root? [22:36] phil___, or seeing if the b43 driver is loaded? [22:36] no I have not [22:37] linux/autoconf.h is in the kernel source code [22:37] modprobe b43 prints nothing so I assumed it worked [22:37] how can I test [22:37] phil___, "lsmod|grep b43" [22:38] yes that prints about 8 lines [22:38] b43 is one [22:38] phil___, that means the module has loaded, now try the iwconfig to see if anything shows [22:38] it says what it said before [22:39] it says under wlan0: [22:39] don't pate it.. [22:39] use a pastebin [22:39] I can't [22:39] because it's on another computer [22:39] it's the slack box which isn't on the internet [22:39] so type it out on the pastebin. [22:40] ok one minute [22:41] http://pastebin.com/ezkQaYkw [22:41] I think that is accurate, I don't think I mistyped anything [22:43] phil___: that driver is working [22:43] ok good [22:43] what is wrong that is preventing it from connecting [22:44] Well, what kind of encryption are you using? [22:44] WEP [22:44] normal [22:44] should I switch it to none and try it? [22:44] don't typo the hex key I guess [22:44] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:44] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [22:44] the network is not showing even in wicp [22:45] wicd [22:45] iwlist wlan0 scan [22:45] does anything show up? [22:45] wlan0 interface doesn't support scanning: Network is down [22:45] phil___: Is this a laptop? [22:45] yes [22:46] Does it have one of those disable the radio button deals? [22:46] that is what I was thinking [22:46] yes but it is in the on position [22:46] it is not switched off [22:46] ifconfig wlan0 up [22:46] then try iwlist wlan0 scan [22:46] when I do the first one, ifconfig, I get [22:47] SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory [22:47] driver ain't loade [22:47] d [22:47] everyone says it appears to be loaded though [22:47] ifconfig -a [22:48] what should I be looking for in that output [22:48] maybe it's not calling itself wlan0 [22:48] phil___, it appears to be loaded, but the error is stating there is a problem with the communication [22:48] yes wlan0 is in the list [22:48] ok... [22:48] eth0, lo, and wlan0 [22:48] are the full list [22:49] mfillpot: how can I resolve this issue [22:49] phil___, if "ifconfig wlan0 up" work correctly it will not give any output [22:49] do you have any ther networkadapter? [22:49] phil___: a good reboot wouldn't hurt...wicd-client didn't work for me until I rebooted. 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[22:50] uh yes, I guess so [22:50] phil___, Fish_Kungfu has a good idea, can you reboot then check the output of lsmod to see if b43 or anything similar appears [22:50] eth0 is in that list, I guess it will work if I plug an ethernet cable [22:50] phil___: but I am by no means the expert here [22:50] ok I will do so [22:50] sabalaba (~sabalaba@c-76-118-76-200.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:50] I like the slackware logo :) [22:50] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-76-161.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:51] larry (~larry@ppp-70-245-111-102.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:51] it shows to me when I start my computer [22:51] and also two penguins which sit atop the first console output [22:51] I was curious because mine calls itself wifi0 *and* eth1 [22:52] when I start up it hangs at dhcpcp: eth0: waiting for carrier [22:52] and then says dhcpcp: timed out [22:52] phil___, you are definately new... It hangs becaue it is trying to get an address on a port that is not plugged in. [22:52] yes I am definitely new [22:53] phil___, now recently did you start using linux based distros and which ones have you used? [22:53] I have used linux off and on for a while, and have used fedora and opensuse [22:53] ok my computer started back up [22:54] phil___: try running the command: wicd-client [22:54] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] phil___: if it works, you will see an icon in the tray, depending on what window manager you use [22:55] I am using xfce [22:55] ok I will run that command, one moment [22:55] phil___, run "lsmod|grep cfg80211" and tel me what is says [22:55] thank you all for this help, I would destroy my computer out of anger if not for this help [22:56] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:59] 109656 2 b42,mac80211 [22:59] b43 [22:59] sorry [23:00] phil___, so the system did autoload the b43 module for your card [23:00] is this a good thing [23:00] phil___, it is a good thing if it is the correct driver [23:00] how can we know this [23:00] phil___, try running "ifconfig wlan0 up" again [23:01] I get the same error with the no such file or directory [23:01] hrm [23:01] isn't there firmware for broacom cards that has to be 'loaded'? [23:02] iirc in the l/ directory..? [23:02] phil___: try it as: sudo /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up [23:02] I am running as root right now [23:02] and I get the same error with that command [23:03] phil___: even with the full path /sbin/ifconfig....? [23:03] yes [23:03] if running ifconfig by itself gives that error.. tacking /sbin/ifconfig on won't matter [23:05] if I simply run ifconfig by itself, it just lists eth0 and lo, not wlan0 [23:05] Dominian, I checked the package list and there is no firmware for broadcom cards [23:05] but iwconfig lists them all [23:05] bummer [23:07] phil___: if you've run wicd-client, and you see the tray icon that looks like 2 monitors, click on it and tell what you see [23:07] Dominian, But there is b43 firmware and the fwcutter on slackbuilds that he must apply [23:07] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:07] mfillpot: that's what I was thinking of [23:08] Fish_Kungfu: when I click on that icon it pops up a window and says No wireless networks found. [23:08] bummer indeed [23:08] phil___, have you ever used a slackbuild? [23:08] no I have not [23:08] I have just installed slackware a few hours ago [23:09] phil___, We did find the issue, you need to install the necessary firmware to allow communication with the card, unfortunately the firmware must be pulled from the net and compiled [23:09] I can pull it from the net on this computer and transfer it to the slack computer via usb drive [23:09] will you send me a link to the firmware [23:10] phil___, The guide to using a slackbuild is at http://slackbuilds.org/howto/, you will need to run he slackbuild from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/b43-fwcutter/ and http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/b43-firmware/ in the given order then reboot your system. [23:10] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:10] I have to go guys. Good luck phil___. You're obviously in good hands. [23:10] Fish_Kungfu (~Fish_Kung@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: "When mind control works, you won't know it." [23:10] Fish_Kungfu: thank you for your extensive help [23:10] Dominian, thanks for the idea of the firmware I keep forgetting that since I am an atheros fanboy [23:10] mfillpot: Ok I will download those and try my best to compile them [23:12] phil___, once those are compiled and installed you should be set [23:12] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-225.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:12] MLanden, yo [23:12] thank you very much, I will remain on this channel until I have successfully done so [23:12] heya mfillpot [23:12] heya folks [23:13] hey there MLanden [23:13] it has been a while since I have been on here, I need to remember to keep dropping by [23:13] heya jgeboski [23:14] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] mfillpot: been toyin' with firefox4-beta on 64bit? [23:15] MLanden, no, I stopped using firefox in favor of chrome, how is it? [23:16] mfillpot: dunno either [23:16] Action: jgeboski might switch back to FF [23:16] hey MLanden [23:16] heya shonudo [23:16] MLanden, the lack of integration with multiple devices is what pushed me away [23:16] they now have a syncing system which is nice [23:17] meanwhile tomorrow we get 3.6.9 [23:17] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] what is really want to see in a browser if active page syncronization between multiple devices to I can open the browser on my laptop and see what pages were last open on any computer [23:17] mancha: they finally came down to release date? thanks [23:17] mfillpot: that would be very slick [23:18] MLanden, yes, a dev told me this, so the info's good. [23:18] google 'history sync [23:18] but the bookmark and theme syncs in chrome have been very nice [23:18] xmarks ftw [23:19] on that note, it would be really cool if the bookmarks with chrome can sync with the bookmarks in my android phone [23:19] any major improvements from chrome 5 to 6, btw? [23:19] opera does that on my phone [23:19] mfillpot: it's possible. It puts the bookmarks in your google docs [23:20] this definitely shows how spoiled we have gotten with technology [23:20] jgeboski, I noticed that but it is a pain to visit docs on the phone [23:21] wow slackbuilds is amazingly cool [23:21] it worked when I did ti [23:22] phil___, slackbuilds are how all slackware packages are build, nice and clean [23:22] wow awesome [23:22] phil___, does it work now [23:22] I have only done one of the two slackbuilds you pasted me [23:22] I am working on the next one [23:24] speaking of browsers, i just read a piece on how IE8 is the last remaining browser that allows CSS cross-scripting highjacking [23:25] phil___, in general we prefer slackbuilds over pre-built packages because it allows the users to customize the installation [23:25] mfillpot: I have completely installed both [23:25] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-159.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] what should I do now [23:25] mancha, is that a surprise? [23:25] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:25] phil___, reboot so everything can reload [23:25] not really though firefox ignored the problem for almost two years too, 3.6.7 was the first version to address it [23:26] I know that I should not be using the root account normally, so do I just make a new account and start using that one? [23:26] phil, yeah, lessens your chances of bad things happening/ [23:26] phil___, you should keep a normal account with no root powers and use the terminal to go into "su -" when you need root access [23:27] ok [23:27] or sudo [23:27] too many people misuse sudo for my preferences, I was one of them [23:27] this is not the right place perhaps to ask this, but is there a large difference between BSD and linux [23:27] if used right sudo is more idiot proof than su - [23:28] mancha, true, but can we guide a new user to that level? [23:28] phil___, the kernel, licensing and packaging methods are different [23:28] phil___, but most of the apps are the same [23:28] mfillpot: my computer is now restarted [23:28] it's not overly complex (sudo), but you do have to sit down and just learn the syntax to start. [23:28] HA [23:29] IT WORKS [23:29] phil___, thank Dominian for that, he found the issue [23:29] also, i think slackware packages kdesu by default. [23:29] Dominian: thank you very much for thinking of what you thought of to get my internet working [23:30] phil___: broadcom and ralink adapters are a pita [23:30] lnX (~lnx@201.250.16.204) joined ##slackware. [23:30] Dominian: no kidding [23:30] installing the firmware and fwcutter is usually the only way to get them workin gproperly [23:30] Dominian: yeah they are [23:30] i've dealt with them myself [23:30] what is fwcutter for, just installing the firmware? [23:30] for extracting it from the broadcom binary [23:31] phil___, now you need to remember slackbuilds.org for any additional software that you will need, just remember to read the README files for dependencies [23:32] just as a note if run almost totally as root for fifteen years and only deleted several MP3s one time... [23:32] s/if/I've [23:32] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:33] Appetite (titan@68.67.76.91) left irc: Quit: #shellium | muillehs# [23:33] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:33] heviarti, then you are luck, I once miskepyed the dd dyntaq to install the usbboot image and fried my partition table [23:33] whoops back, my internet went down [23:33] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] sorry, my habds are faster than my mind tonight [23:33] s/habds/hands/ [23:34] I'm generally pretty careful. [23:34] I have one more question, how do I set the encryption type to WPA2-PSK? [23:34] I only see an option for wpa [23:34] I did hosea system trying to upgrade glibc.... but that was a foregone conclusion anyway [23:35] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-156-95.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:36] phil___, are you talking about changing it in iwconfig or wicd? [23:36] I am getting a bad password error even though I am sure the password is correct, I think because it thinks it's WPA and it's WPA2PSK [23:36] wicd [23:36] if it is more slackwarelike I would like to know how to do it in iwconfig [23:37] instead [23:37] wpa2 is not different from wpa except that tkip is not used [23:37] mfillpot: i kind of wisht i hada friend that wasn't too 'tarded to watch wavemon and tell me (on the roof) where the best spot for the antenna is.. [23:37] you need wpa-supplicant, not just iwconfig, for WPA [23:37] in wicd go to properties and under use encryption change it to "WPA 1/2 passphrase" [23:38] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:38] mfillpot: I did that, and now that I rescanned for networks it has it listed as wpa2, but still the password is rejected [23:39] wpa-supplication, the good old days of manual wireless configuration, I don't miss it [23:39] use the right password [23:39] mancha, you beat me to it [23:40] drowssap [23:40] it used to be that using eap extensions with wicd was a bit hairy, for those wicd fans here, have new versions make it easier? [23:40] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:41] s/make/made [23:41] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:41] I am not using a wrong password [23:41] I am using the same password on this computer and it works [23:41] mancha, it is definately better now, I can finally pick up the WAP at my lug meetings [23:42] mancha: did you get your name from a movie [23:42] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:42] so doing cert based auth is easier now? it used to be a pain that required hacked wpa-supplicant configs [23:42] naw, it's a place in spain or a goat... he just took the 'la' off'n it [23:42] phil___, You are now at the point where the software is communicating with the router and we cannot assume to know what the router does not like [23:43] newslacker (~Kenneth@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] mfillpot: ok thanks, I will try to go from here [23:43] ok.. I'm just about t punch somebody's web developer in the balls repeatedly with brass knuckles.. [23:44] phil___, if nothing else you can simplify your passphrase because if you are using complexed characters then wicd may not be able to relay them, but that is only a baseless guess [23:44] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:44] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:45] mancha, as of a few months ago all of my issues with wicd were fixed, I don't have anything to complain about now [23:45] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:45] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [23:45] ah nice. i didn't like the need for the templates they used to have,. [23:46] mfillpot: I have switched encryption to WEP and now I can connect, but can't obtain an IP address [23:46] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:46] arg [23:46] I tried to do slackpkg update-all and i got a cannot open root device "302" or known-block(3,2) release append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions [23:47] it wouldnt even let me log in as root it just errors out saying that then gives a list of partitions and a bunch of numbers and sda1-sda3 thing on it [23:48] jf_ (~jf@bas2-montrealak-1096582940.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:49] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:49] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:49] jf_ (~jf@bas2-montrealak-1096582940.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [23:50] Even wehn I set the router to use no passwords, I cannot obtain an ip address [23:50] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Client Quit [23:50] phil___, how good it the signal from the router according to wicd? [23:50] has anyone experiences wierdness with logitech optical mice? [23:50] mfillpot: 90% [23:51] phil___, that is strange, I get a similar problem when my connection strength is <50% [23:52] newslacker, the error message you are giving looks like it is from the bootloader, not the cli [23:52] like the mouse itself momentarily locking up or warping across the desktop? [23:52] heviarti, not here [23:52] heviarti, how often does it do that? [23:52] how do i correct it. It did that as soon as i rebooted after i tried to upgrade the os from 13.0 to 13.1 with slackpkg [23:53] phil___, have you tried using wireshark or tcpdump to see what packets are exchanged while the interface is negotiating? [23:53] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] newslacker, so the problem is with the bootloader then? [23:54] i dont know whats what im trying to figure out lol [23:54] mfillpot: I probably don't have the skill to do that [23:54] newslacker, are you using an IDE hard drive? [23:54] is running startx as non root a bad idea? [23:54] i just know the upgrade failed and wouldnt boot and thats the error it gave [23:55] mfillpot: locks often... warps every hour f useor so [23:55] phil___, startx from a normal user is not bad. You should checkout wireshark to see how if can help. [23:55] phil___: startx as user is fine. [23:55] heviarti, it may be the result of surges on the usb port, have you tried changing ports? [23:56] mfillpot: well, if it was a usb mouse i'd d that [23:56] newslacker, prior to the upgrade did the system show the hard drive as hd?? or sd?? [23:57] i don't exactly have any more ps/2 ports to try... [23:57] mfillpot: if I run startx as a normal user, nothing happens and I can't type anything in the command prompt [23:57] heviarti, lol... have you checked the lens for hair or other debris? [23:57] hd i believe [23:58] phil___, what about startxfce4? [23:58] haven't tried that [23:58] how can I see what user I'm running as [23:58] the bash shell in xfce is rather bad [23:58] looking [23:58] newslacker, that would be the cause, in the newer kernels the old IDE hard drives are no longer registered as hd?? they now show as sd?? which would be why the root partition cannot be found [23:59] phil___: start the xfce term, and type xterm & [23:59] phil___, use the whoami command [23:59] phil___: plus your prmpt will tell you whether yu are user r root [00:00] --- Tue Sep 7 2010