[00:00] hiptobecubic: a good reason to buy them buy the case =D [00:00] I highly recommend them. The are like M&M's that don't suck cock. [00:00] Where can I get these M&M's that *do* suck cock? [00:00] mmmm...... grapes would make good anal beads? [00:00] Which, has been objectively proven, M&M's do. [00:00] rworkman: backalley behind the local bar? [00:00] antler, i saw a pretty awful porn once where they were doing that. [00:00] hiptobecubic: something related to melting in your mouth and not hand? lol [00:00] BP{k}: oh, nevermind. No fruit for me. [00:01] ;-) [00:01] hiptobecubic: that would be nasty with grapes [00:01] antler, then they ate them anyway. It was rather foul. [00:01] oh god [00:01] My wife came home from the tanning bed today - on her way to a full-body tan :) [00:01] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@123.122.106.87) left irc: "Leaving" [00:01] ohhh man.... I saw a vid of a chick getting it in the pooper...got lil messy...and there was corn [00:01] EWW [00:01] was horrible [00:01] lol [00:02] oh man [00:02] acidkill: that was cruel. Here I am, reveling in the image of my wife's full body tan, and you go and mention corn. [00:02] i feel tainted [00:02] rworkman, tanning bed? I prefer the beach :D [00:02] hiptobecubic: one step at a time ;-) [00:02] nullboy: tainted, nearly rectum!! [00:02] Rectum? Nearly killed'em [00:02] I hope this makes everyone laugh as hard as i did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c I love The Lonely Island guys. [00:03] Is that dick in a box? [00:03] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [00:03] hiptobecubic: no, it's Like a Boss. it's new. [00:03] the boat is the best =D [00:03] lol [00:03] boat is the best without a doubt [00:03] acidkill: Dude, i love I'm on a Boat. [00:03] look at me im on a boat!! [00:03] it's so well done [00:03] Never thought i'd be on a boat [00:03] riding dolphins doing flips n shit ROFL [00:03] Whatever floats your boat. [00:03] believe me when i say, i fucked a mermaid!!! [00:04] genius. all of it. [00:04] lol [00:04] But no, that link is new. [00:04] "like a boss" is alright. I think they got too crazy too quickly. [00:04] If anyone ever doubts that geeks have eccentric senses of humor, they only need to visit this channel. [00:04] that was humour? [00:05] Hit on Debora. *Like a Boss, Get rejected, Like a Boss. hahah. [00:05] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] Mr. Moto is 1337 http://www.hulu.com/watch/64698/mr-motos-gamble [00:05] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:05] You know? He's morphing into a jet and bombing the russians, sure. but he's already cutting of his balls and moving into the sewer so what ever. do whatever you want man, you know? [00:05] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:06] I really want to like dollhouse [00:06] I like Natalie Portman's song with them [00:06] Whoa, free boat ride for 3! [00:06] :D:D:D [00:06] hiptobecubic: Heh, i just watched that again. [00:06] wow, haven't heard about Natalie Portman for a while [00:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:07] I think Lazy Sunday is a good one too. [00:07] well you can go hear her sing about having her dick sucked if you'd like [00:07] the chronic, what?! [00:07] I remember when the slashdottians were constantly spilling hot grits because of her [00:07] petrified and covered in grits [00:07] Oh, and there's this one where Andy goes around hitting people when they are about to eat. Have you seen that? [00:07] mmmm [00:07] Lazy Sunday was the first wasn't it? I remember that on SNL back in 05 [00:08] Have you ever watched their, The Bu, series? [00:08] grits are crap, but id eat them off of natalie all day =D [00:08] haven't i'm afraid [00:08] grits are excellent! [00:08] mm grits [00:08] u had creamed corn that kinda tasted like grits...was nasty [00:09] i love cream corn though mmmm [00:09] natalie portman is thw worse actress [00:09] but yes. I would grind her to a bloody paste and smear it all over my ass any day. [00:09] straterra, who cares? [00:09] straterra: heathen!!! her as that little girl in V.... [00:09] i was sold [00:09] =D [00:09] straterra, i'm gettin hitched on friday:D [00:09] nix_chix: condolences [00:09] lol [00:09] :D [00:10] i told him i'm only marryin him for his money lawl [00:10] he said that's alright [00:10] alright back to this terrible paper i'm writing. [00:10] nix_chix: oh...um..cool [00:10] nix_chix: my baby died :/ [00:10] :| [00:10] want mine? [00:10] Action: nix_chix hug [00:11] Punched before eatting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILvkEHQPHHg [00:11] Oh...and I've been drinking pretty much nonstop since lol [00:11] nah..keep yours [00:11] i have friends like jose cuervo and captain morgan to take me on fun rides [00:11] gah i cant seem to get rid of him ha [00:11] sorry to hear about your child, straterra! [00:11] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:11] guess i'll have to keep the monkey boy [00:12] we named him anyway [00:12] isaiah alexander [00:12] wow, how old? [00:12] Action: edman007 pokes nix_chix [00:12] it was already a him? [00:12] great name [00:12] i don't understand why "punched before eating" is funny [00:12] my sis just had a baby, Lucas James, 2mo now [00:12] nix_chix: we kinda decided it was a him [00:13] she wanted a him..so..we went with it [00:13] nix_chix, friday? thats what you said last week! [00:13] i said the 10th edman007 [00:13] noob [00:13] our rings had to be sent off to get resized [00:14] straterra: i dont know what to say, kind of speechless. i want to say i'm sorry but that sounds so cliche, but i really am sorry for your loss. :( [00:14] straterra, lay off the tequilla and try again [00:14] try to have another? [00:14] yes [00:14] always [00:14] miscarriages are hard on every one [00:14] i had two [00:14] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:14] meh..it won't matter [00:15] nix_chix: Unless tequilla = wife's name, then lay on tequilla. :) [00:15] the doctors dont think she can have children [00:15] we werent ready for it [00:15] straterra: sorry to hear about the loss, man. Regardless of circumstances, it's an emotional trauma. [00:15] Not really in a state to cope with it happening multiple times atm [00:15] one of my local micro brew houses has a plaque that says "When in doubt, drink more beer." [00:15] nullboy, i doubt that [00:16] i'll take pics next time [00:16] nullboy, uhh...you're suppose to give me beer [00:16] thanks robby, everyone [00:16] our pub says free beer on fridays but they never give you free beer [00:16] nix_chix, get really drunk and then argue with them [00:16] i dont go to a pub [00:17] too far to walk to pass out [00:17] edman007, http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/647/babypics040.jpg look at mr monkey boy [00:17] cute [00:17] ok. who formed a baby [00:17] normally i don't think they are cute [00:17] me! [00:17] jesus..the captain ran out :/ [00:17] someone accidentally in ur base [00:18] nix_chix, omg, wtf is that? he has a head crab infection! [00:18] yeah most babies are ugly i got lucky [00:18] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.114.11) joined ##slackware. [00:18] head crabs are cured by a crowbar [00:18] i see a lot of red head crabs on him [00:18] M-tty (n=M-tty@32.168.89.208) joined ##slackware. [00:18] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:19] I need a runner to go fetch me more rum [00:19] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) joined ##slackware. [00:19] straterra, i'll do it [00:19] give me the money [00:19] i shall fetch rum [00:19] do you do tabs? [00:20] cause then ill give you my credit card and say keep em coming [00:20] absolutely, but they much be paid in full first [00:20] *must [00:21] careful he might charge a pony on your credit card [00:21] thats ok [00:21] a pony, plus enough rum to get the pony drunk? [00:21] its not my credit card [00:21] he tried that with me [00:21] its 'albachla muhammed's card [00:21] o.O [00:21] nix_chix, still waiting [00:21] My wife and I had a miscarriage years ago.....it sounds phony as hell, but, I know how you feel, straterra. Don't drink too much, man. [00:22] straterra, nonsense, i will honestly go out and fetch rum [00:22] but you won't get any [00:22] thats not fair [00:22] yeah i'll drink it since i can now [00:22] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:22] touch my rum and die [00:22] and then i'll end up pregnant again before my 6week checkup ahahah [00:22] that would suck [00:22] that would be hilarious [00:23] it happens so often [00:23] you wouldnt have to worry about it [00:23] suprise! [00:23] youd touch my rum and id go reiser on you [00:23] nix_chix: can you drink and breast feed? [00:23] his parents are footing us a hotel for the weekend for our honeymoon so i gota be careful [00:23] bring rubbers [00:24] pi31415, you can, but they have tests you can take to make sure it's out of your system before you feed again. [00:24] bring rubber bands and saran wrap [00:24] straterra, a whole big box of em.. yup [00:24] got it all planned out [00:24] there you go [00:24] i read that a long time ago people thought that beer made women produce better/more milk [00:25] rum makes me produce better cide [00:25] they countered that myth a long time ago [00:25] code [00:25] i configured snort while drunk last week [00:25] that worked great [00:25] whenever I drink alcohol, I don't feel like coding any more [00:25] i love this pic http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9549/babypics008.jpg he was not even an hour old [00:25] mr pondering life [00:26] you know the best thing about rum? [00:26] it is made out of sugar? [00:26] mix it with pepsi and put it in a vanilla coke bottle..no one will know the difference [00:26] heh [00:26] lol [00:26] then you can drink it at work [00:26] good grief [00:27] im saying theoretically [00:27] saw some rum at liquor store today labelled "navy rum"... I have a theory that, if I drank a lot of that, I'd end up talking like Popeye [00:27] so you can rot your bones, kidneys, and liver simultaneously [00:27] exxactly [00:27] nite folks:) [00:27] when i die..i want it all to fail [00:27] or you could just mix it with vanilla coke [00:27] go out witha bang [00:27] pepsi is disgusting [00:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:27] not with rum [00:28] i would like to die in the sunshine [00:28] just thinking of that makes my stomach churn [00:28] not me [00:28] i get sunburnt easily [00:28] last time i drank captain morgan i drank a massive bottle [00:28] i want to die in a dark place [00:28] cold [00:28] cold is ok [00:29] hike out to some glacier and kick it [00:29] hell yeah [00:29] when I die I want a Viking funeral (the kind where your body is on a boat soaked with pitch, and everyone fires flaming arrows at it) [00:29] but if I am healthy enough for glacier hiking, then is it really my time yet? [00:29] yes..yes it is [00:29] sadly, my friends are all pasty-faced nerds with no archery skills [00:29] because glacier hiking is bad ass [00:29] Urchlay: my archery skill in WoW is 250 [00:29] let me do it [00:30] sadly, they'd probably blow a bunch of money trying to rescue my corpse [00:30] and put my family in debt [00:30] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] straterra: if I ever start playing WoW, and I die in the game, you can do it then [00:30] deal [00:30] except i can ressurect [00:30] after 3 days [00:30] no [00:30] im not jesus..i do it instantly [00:31] supposedly jesus could do it instantly too, the 3 days thing was probably for theatrical effect [00:31] jesus has more endurance [00:31] i have more mana [00:31] jesus saves, but only buddha makes incremental backups... [00:31] hehe [00:32] nix_chix (n=misspwn@67-54-136-186.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:32] i was once almost run over by a truck with a jesus saves bumper sticker, it seemed ironic at the time [00:32] Nick change: Urchlay -> _Jesus_ [00:32] <_Jesus_> Dad, they're making fun of me again! [00:32] Nick change: _Jesus_ -> Urchlay [00:32] stop whining! [00:32] get in the choppa! [00:33] its not a tumah [00:33] ...the people on the other IRC network I'm idling on, are going to see that nick change and go "WTF?" [00:33] who is your daddy, and what does he do? [00:33] anyone get it? [00:33] haha [00:33] its ahnald! [00:33] saw bumper sticker: "You god died while nailed to a tree. My god carries a hammer. Any questions?" [00:34] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*=mantened@200.172.83.* expired. 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[00:54] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [00:54] Hm, it's either really quiet in here or my client is not behaving [00:55] shh [00:55] that works, testing out an osx client heh [01:03] fiyawerx, IMHO xchat/gtk is the best on osx [01:03] the aqua one sucks [01:03] trying out colloquy now [01:03] liking it so far [01:03] i hate that...a lot [01:03] yeah? [01:04] i tried using it, it drove me insane [01:04] now i use xchat/gtk and deal with the focus issues [01:04] think i'll be putting a proper linux install back on shortly, and just using this for music stuff when i need to [01:04] just playing around with a hackintosh i set up [01:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[01:48] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:54] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [01:54] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:57] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:57] Does aircrack-ng work with USB wlan decices? [01:57] devices [01:58] if there exists usb wlan devices that work under linux with the modes you need for aircrack-ng, yes [01:59] wtf? --- Ping reply from slackboy : 6.17 second(s) [01:59] :( [02:04] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [02:07] tank-man, so the USB itself is never the issue? [02:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:08] thats what i would think but i never used aircrack-ng before [02:08] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:09] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:10] pireau_ (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:10] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:11] the aircrack suite works with nearly any card that supports linux wireless/mac80211. some need patches though [02:12] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:14] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] gartt_ (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:47] warning psycho chick on the loose in California http://ventura.craigslist.org/mis/1109047933.html [02:49] lol. nullboy you better watch out. :P [02:49] ROKO__: pick up the installer from ati site and run it,i think 8.3 version should install to stock kernel [02:49] please give me link [02:50] google ati drivers linux,,i'm browsing with my phone, can't give u link [02:50] okay [02:51] last version [02:51] ? [02:51] no,,8.3 [02:51] ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run [02:51] with newer you have to recompile your kernel [02:52] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. 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[02:59] binfls (n=candra@125.163.243.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:00] binfls (n=candra@125.163.243.65) joined ##slackware. [03:02] try it [03:03] okay [03:04] read the instructions first [03:04] back up your xorg.conf [03:05] i think installer does that [03:05] binfls (n=candra@125.163.243.65) left irc: Client Quit [03:05] okay [03:07] Shift_Wreck (n=Shift_Wr@adsl-75-21-128-161.dsl.rcfril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.176) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:10] im trying to track down a past version of slax that used emelfm2 as default file manager [03:11] probly ought to try asking in #slax, if it exists [03:11] we all use Slackware here, not much use asking about slax [03:11] i know, im in there too [03:11] sorta dead [03:12] 10 nicks [03:12] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.88) joined ##slackware. [03:12] yeah... lots of users in here but it's fairly dead here too [03:12] lol [03:12] ok [03:12] right on. i just thought it was worth a shot [03:13] i really dug the way emelfm2 was configured/set up in that distro [03:14] least i think it was slax [03:14] hell, its been so long [03:14] hm, are you on actual Slackware? look here: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/emelfm2/ [03:15] actualy im not [03:16] that Chess Griffin is a busy guy :) [03:16] thanks for the link [03:16] it actually looks like an interesting file manager, I might give it a go myself [03:16] Action: Urchlay is a bash addict, never uses a GUI file manager [03:17] its highly configurable [03:17] emelfm2 is mice. been using it for years. i like the double pane and the options in the middle [03:17] yes it is Shift_Wreck [03:17] s/mice/nice/ [03:17] ive spent hours configing it [03:18] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:18] and i'll spend hours more i have no doubt [03:18] not because its hard mind you [03:18] because i can [03:19] although , i usally just use cli for managing files .. sometimes i use emelfm2 [03:19] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.176) joined ##slackware. [03:19] would love a nice set of icons for it [03:19] it is lightning fast compared to konq or nautilus [03:19] wird [03:20] http://nopaste.org/p/aeat8HEkb [03:20] has a huge set of internal commands and super easy to run scripts [03:20] see this log [03:20] pls help [03:20] bleah. Anyone know much about troubleshooting wpa_supplicant? [03:21] not i , but i will soonish when i get my wireless router out of storage [03:21] I say "wpa_cli -i ra0 status" and it says "wpa_state=SCANNING", what is it actually telling me there? It can't contact the AP? [03:22] "iwconfig ra0" variously shows it associated with the AP or unassociated [03:24] ah. I bet I know why not. IIRC, the crappy RaLink driver is compiled without wpa_supplicant support. [03:25] it means it is scanning for APs and not actually conecting but for a brief moment( if at all) from what you described [03:25] yeah [03:25] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:26] yep, no wpa_supplicant support (found my old compile directory). Probably because at the time I compiled it, I had no idea what wpa_supplicant was :) [03:26] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.176) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:28] forgot how retarded this driver's build process is [03:29] "make" compiles the module and copies it to /tftpboot (if the directory doesn't exist, it ends up creating a /tftpboot file of the driver code...) [03:31] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:31] strangeness [03:32] bottom-of-the-barrel asian outsourcing at work [03:32] heh [03:33] I'm sure there are good coders in many places in asia, but the good ones don't work cheap enough to suit the american suit-wearing bastards who speak of human beings as "resources" [03:34] good point [03:34] yep, recompile driver with wpa_supplicant support enabled in its config, and *bam* it works fine [03:35] i have a feeling i am ging to have to relearn how to setup wireless when i my router out of storage. i used to know it very well a few years ago when slack did not include any rc.wireless and i made my own rc.wireless [03:37] yah, I had to relearn, I used to use /etc/wlan.conf or whatever, which still seems to exist in slack 12.2 but doesn't seem to actually do anything [03:39] Urchlay: StudioS is coming along good... for nwo it is a guide and some build scripts ( when sbo does not offer one for a particular ap) -> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfx7gckk_5g5f39cfn [03:39] ah, nice [03:40] Urchlay: we went ahead and started the studio for slackware and have gotten that far as of now. package set will probably follow the guide , then maybe in the future an os iso [03:40] I've spent the last week moving and getting settled into the new place, haven't even thought about studio-slack [03:40] moving is a PITA [03:41] living out of boxes and all that [03:41] yeah [03:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:41] feel free to drop in sometime in #studios [03:42] still dunno what to do with my giant 36" CRT TV [03:42] no room for it in either my room or the living room here [03:42] yeah that would be a monster the crt tv that is [03:43] it got rained on, too :( [03:43] bummer [03:43] plan is, wait another week before daring to plug it in [03:43] heh [03:43] good idea [03:43] if it don't work, it becomes a problem in waste disposal [03:43] 36" CRT, wow, that must be huge to find room for. :P [03:44] hey there team-mate ! [03:44] and I stop being friends with the guy who was responsible for it getting left out in the rain [03:44] dtanner: Hey, how's it going? [03:44] you Guide-NAZI [03:44] yeah, it's friggin' enormous. Can see it well though, when it's working [03:44] going good firebird619 i woke up in the middle of the night and cant get back to sleep [03:44] how are you dion firebird619 ? burning the midnight oil? [03:44] Ah, did you get your fx board or whatever done? [03:45] Doing great, will soon be going to get some sleep. [03:45] no, i ended up getting too full at dinner and it made me sleepy so i went straigh to bed after eating [03:45] haha. [03:45] Maybe tomorrow. [03:45] the lady who's renting me a room just bought some sort of Yamaha outboard USB recording device [03:45] i will do it today , i have to. the new FX card has some tools i need in the mastering room on the board [03:46] I've no idea if it's any good, she's wanting me to install it and its software on her laptop (comes with cubase ai, she's running vista) [03:46] ah, yeah, you need to get that done, then eat afterward in case you get sleepy. :D [03:47] cubase isn't bad at all from what i have heard [03:47] In making this guide for StudioS, linux has some great audio tools. [03:47] firebird619: yeah right... *after* i eat =) [03:47] yup, that's the key. [03:47] don't think I'll be able to sell her on Linux [03:47] ardour looks superbly sweet [03:47] dtanner: the hunger pains will be motivation to get done faster. [03:47] firebird619: have you recorded any keyboard tracks with ardour yet? [03:47] hehe [03:48] she's a "computer tutor", makes money teaching people how to use word/excel/etc. [03:48] that sounds too easy to make money that way [03:48] no, I've worked more with rosegarden and lmms, haven't recorded anything yet. [03:48] i guess there is a market then =) [03:48] it helps that she's a "people person" [03:48] yeah [03:48] With a job like that, you need to be a people person. [03:49] I couldn't do it, I'd bite somebody's head off the first time they said "I know you showed me how to copy and paste, but it just didn't make sense...." [03:49] Otherwise you'll have a group of people getting frustrated and slamming the keyboards down. :P [03:49] I'd tell em... "Put your computer back in the box it came in, take it back to the store, and tell them you're too stupid to have a computer" [03:49] Shift_Wreck (n=Shift_Wr@adsl-75-21-128-161.dsl.rcfril.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:50] i recorded another gospel ( contemporary christion music) tune today for a client. seems a lot of gospel musicicans are coming to me after doing a couple of projects for a dude i know that writes gospel the word is getting out. =) I will record anything that people pay me to. doesn't matter if i personally like the genre or not. [03:51] Urchlay: hehehee [03:51] hm. I didn't know people wrote new gospel songs. I always think of it as "all those old songs you find in hymnbooks" [03:51] That's great that your getting business via word of mouth. [03:51] yeah, a lot fo people write gospel tunes that are up to date as far as they beats and music goes [03:51] firebird619: yup [03:52] That's sort of a sign that those you've done work for like your work enough to tell others about it. [03:52] guess I tend to think of that stuff as "christian rock" (or "contemporary christian" if it's not rock)... but I'm no expert on religious music [03:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:52] I've heard that "christian death metal" exists as a real genre, but can't wrap my head around it... [03:52] Red, a band dtanner now likes thanks to me, is considered Christian Rock. [03:53] They're a great band too. [03:53] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:53] imho [03:53] yeah, i think of it as christian rock also, but sometimes the music they write ( lyrics) and the beat they want are/is even close to R&B and Hip-hop [03:53] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "Leaving." [03:53] Rusted Root I think counts as christian rock, went to see them & they were damn good [03:53] (eh, or not-damned, I dunno) [03:54] Never heard of them. [03:54] yeah firebird619 , they are really a good group. i want to get another album by them now. what is the next album you would recommend by Red? [03:54] Well, they just have the two so far, so get their first, End of Silence. [03:54] hmmm /me takes note to listen to "Rusted Root" [03:54] they're not really a jam band, but they're popular with the jam band crowd [03:55] ok firebird619 , i will get End of Silence then. thanks again [03:55] np [03:55] hoi [03:56] dtanner: hey dude, hows it going? [03:56] firebird619: ihave been readin the docs on Ardour, wow! is all i can say. it is "Pro-tools" and THEN some as far as I can tell. The Pro-tools of Linux. [03:56] hey tewmten ! [03:56] My favorites on that are Already Over, Pieces (which you've heard), Hide, and Already Over Pt 2. (acoustic of Already Over) [03:56] tewmten: im doin good , thanks, yourself? [03:57] dtanner: Yeah, Ardour is awesome. [03:57] dtanner: good good.. sippin espresso, chasing dumbfuck domain registrars that doesnt do their job.. [03:57] :) [03:57] Well, I have to get going, have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. [03:57] slacking [03:57] Urchlay: as dtanner mentioned, please feel free to stop by #studios sometime. [03:58] firebird619: couple Ardour with a digidesign input mixer and you would have something =) [03:58] heh, yeah no kidding. [03:58] later dtanner, see you tomorrow. [03:58] tewmten: you hashing it up ? =) [03:58] later firebird619 [03:58] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night."). [03:59] firebird619: will do. Am about to shut down this laptop, after I decide whether I trust my big box on a crappy little Belkin 350 UPS [03:59] speaking of UPS, i need one badly [03:59] when in the world are the prices going to drop on UPS ? [03:59] the dinky belkin UPSes have a tendency to abruptly die and stop providing any power at all, when the batteries wear out [04:00] they are still so high for the amount of backup time you get [04:00] it's fair to say, I've had more downtime due to dying UPSes in the past few years, than I ever had from power outages [04:00] I have a small belkin , it barely gives you time to shutdown when the power goes [04:00] i need a bigger/better one [04:00] dtanner: nah im at work, no hashing at the moment ;) [04:00] Urchlay: that sounds about right [04:00] in my storage I've got 4 or 5 halfway decent (APC, Tripp-Lite) UPSes that are all in need of replacement batteries [04:01] seems i recall that Tripp-lite are pretty good quality [04:01] the batteries may cost as muchas a new UPS Urchlay. =) [04:01] this one might be, I got it for free cause it doesn't work [04:02] used to get a good deal from this local (to my old apartment) place called Bomber Battery [04:02] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:02] but that'd be when I was replacing all the batteries in 8 big APCs at once [04:02] (which belonged to work, not to me!) [04:03] ah so work ponies up the dough for that [04:04] yeah... I no longer have that job though. I dunno if I'd get as good a deal these days... [04:05] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [04:08] bleah, only 3 of the 6 outlets are actually battery backed-up [04:09] and it's not marked as such, I had to discover by accident [04:09] like i mentioned earlier i can't believe the prices for UPS are still so very high [04:10] my litle belkin is marked as to which are backed-up but it is not much backup time at all. i want a better one [04:10] yeah. I used to get reconditioned ones fairly cheap, but most of the time they ended up needing new batteries within a couple months [04:11] well i guess i will go ahead and make coffee at 03:00 am , doesn;t fel like i am going to get anymore sleep tonight , i went to bed rather early though [04:12] actually I'm wrong, it was marked [04:12] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:12] it's now *clearly* marked in my own handwriting :) [04:13] deadowl (n=deadowl@132.198.13.184) joined ##slackware. [04:13] j0z (n=JESUS@189.73.46.135) joined ##slackware. [04:13] (assuming my handwriting counts as clear... I guess it does, to me) [04:15] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "Have nice day. :)" [04:16] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:17] Urchlay (n=urchlay@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: ":wq" [04:18] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:18] finally [04:18] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [04:18] no more crappy laptop keyboarding [04:18] howdy [04:18] howdy,Urchlay [04:19] what are you using for a keyboard,Urchlay? [04:20] IBM Model M Space Saver, as the gods intended [04:20] (just moved into new place, finally have my big box set up, so not stuck using the laptop all the time) [04:21] Oh,you were switchin' from your laptop to your desktop [04:21] yeah. It's only just now I've got the desk put together so I can use the desktop :)_ [04:22] (technically speaking it's a table, made for eating dinner from, but it works fine for this too) [04:22] ah the joys of moving [04:22] sweet [04:22] dtanner: cool thing about the new place is, the lady I'm renting from is a musician [04:23] so she's got the basement set up as a jam/rehearsal space, so I finally get to play my basses & guitar [04:23] plays music by ear or can read music? [04:24] she does both [04:24] sweet [04:24] I can read music, but not in real time (sight reading [04:24] little rusty on that myself [04:27] M-tty (n=M-tty@32.168.89.208) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:28] ahh, crap. Laptop refuses to do wireless with static IP. WTF. [04:30] joannis (n=chatzill@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) joined ##slackware. [04:33] Is it giving an error on connecting or just timing itself out,Urchlay? [04:34] it was timing out [04:35] tried again without changing anything, now it works [04:35] no apparent reason... [04:35] latency issues? [04:35] maybe the crappy little router/WAP hated the idea of my IP address changing suddenly [04:35] that can do it [04:37] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) joined ##slackware. [04:37] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:38] hi poeple [04:38] I hate dealing with lame-ass drooling-idiot-oriented consumer hardware like netgear/linksys routers [04:38] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:38] i'm trying out the new xmonad slackbuild... [04:38] Urchlay: nice! a jam room available for you. =) [04:38] stuff that not only has a web UI, the damn thing requires JS [04:39] it's pretty cool but do u have any pointers on how to install xmobar [04:39] dtanner: yah. Actually I may end up playing bass in her band (which is also my dad's band) [04:39] it's a little more country than I'm used to, but they're actually getting gigs, which I haven't been [04:39] Urchlay: i need to purchase a bass for my home studio [04:40] I am using my sons bass for laying down bass tracks atm , and also the bass simulator on the mixer which makes a regular guitar sound like a bass . and the bass sim does a fairly good job too. [04:40] if you were local I'd possibly try to sell you this Ibanez 6-string [04:41] i want an Ibanez bass matter of fact [04:41] (eh, well, not yet I wouldn't, it's a fixer-upper) [04:41] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [04:42] i saw you mentioned sight reading ealier , i suck at sight reading but i haven't practiced at it for many years [04:42] I really don't like Ibanez basses much, they feel OK but the sound kinda lacks character (bearing in mind I'm a Fender and Music Man junkie) [04:42] fender would be nice yes [04:43] probably you'd be OK with a new or recent Jazz or Precision from Mexico [04:43] Man I really enjoy having to renew CAcert certificates every 6 months(!) [04:43] The US-made ones are supposed to be nicer, but they're 3x the price (I don't think they're 3x as nice) [04:43] yeah, i just want something with a decent feeling neck and a good solid tone [04:43] avoid the Chinese ones (labelled "Squire") like the plague [04:44] yeah i know to avoid the "Squire" ones from trying the guitars that are marked Squire [04:45] if you're mostly a guitar player, you probably want a Jazz rather than a P-bass (the Jazz neck is a little narrower, easier for guitarists) [04:45] i will keep that in mind , thanks [04:45] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:46] and if you're mostly a guitar player, don't pay much extra to get a 5-string bass (unless you *really* want to learn to use the low B) [04:47] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] i just want a 4 string bass [04:48] you may have changed my mind from ibanez to a fender Jazz, you say the tone is better? [04:48] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [04:49] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [04:50] I say it is... not everyone agrees, it's a really subjective thing [04:50] best bet: try 'em both out on the same amp with the same bass/treble/EQ/etc, let your ears decide [04:51] Ah,the mind's ears..:D [04:51] (either one will be built well, play easily, etc) [04:52] if you're only wanting it for recording, you might get by plugging straight into the board, but it's better to get a decent amp, mic that, and mix it with the direct signal [04:52] (again, the mind's ears) [04:53] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-95-99.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:53] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: "Leaving..." [04:53] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-101-33.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:56] i have dedicated Hi-z inputs on both of my mixers with COSM amp modeling that sounds great for the bass and guitar ( the Hi0Z input on newer mixers are specifically for plugging straight in instead of just using a normal input which lacks in sound quality with a guitar/bass plugged in directly ) [04:57] thanks to roland for taking care of that issue , i don't need an amp, the COSM amp modeling sounds great [04:57] lol, i broke slackware trying to install pam [04:57] zoran119_ (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:57] i can still ssh tho [04:57] sweet,dtanner [04:57] zoran119_ (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [04:57] deadowl: failbus picked you up early this morning [04:58] dtanner: nice setup [04:59] yeah , i have a br-600 and a vs-2400cd. both excellent products [05:00] i hardly ever use my guitar amps for recording anymore [05:02] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420067.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:07] no, i recompiled and fixed it [05:07] off to try and get a few hours more sleep [05:07] later [05:07] later,dtanner [05:08] .................+.....................+..................+.+.............................+.++.................................... [05:08] dont you just love waiting for diffie-hellman [05:09] in soviet russia diffie-hellman waits for you [05:09] or something.. [05:09] maybe i shouldnt have gone for 2048 [05:16] sweet, it works! [05:16] lizardius (n=florian@p57A8FF06.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:16] hi ;) [05:17] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [05:19] keoni (i=1000@208.106.15.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:19] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:20] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [05:20] deadowl: going to document what youve done? [05:21] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:22] christ on a bike gendh is still going after 36 mins! [05:22] ToXiC (n=root@78-2-191-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [05:22] hey [05:23] ToXiC (n=root@78-2-191-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Client Quit [05:23] joannis (n=chatzill@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.14/2008122618]" [05:24] lizardius (n=florian@p57A8FF06.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "firmware update" [05:30] skapazzo (n=skapazzo@151.9.96.3) joined ##slackware. [05:31] is there a way to turn echo ON when passwd is executed ? ? [05:33] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:40] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:44] Agiofws, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=passwd+stdin [05:46] Agiofws, basically `echo $password | passwd --stdin $username` [05:46] lw0x15__ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:47] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-222.95-102-55.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [05:49] petterah (n=petter@static243-165-178.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [05:50] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:56] hello all, i'm still trying to get the norwegian language working in slackware with unicode support. I'm aware that slack is not yet 100% unicode supported, BUT, still, i would like it to work. [05:56] The problem is under console, I have no problem in X, but since I'm going to build a non-gui fileserver, this is an obstacle for me... [05:57] petterah, set your locale in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh; choose your font with setconsolefont; edit /etc/rc.d/rc.font to suit your needs. [05:57] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host210-197-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:57] petterah, set unicode consoles in /etc/lilo.conf [05:58] slava_dp, I have set console support in /etc/lilo.conf, and I have changed export value for LANG and LC_ALL ( tried both ) to en_US.UTFF-8 ( don't mind english os messages ) and i have set my font to "lat0-16", I think this is unicode support? [05:59] I used setfont -v lat0-16 or something. I think this font supports unicode [05:59] petterah, what does not work with this setup? [06:00] everything seems to work, except login screen ( not really a problem ) and 3 norwegian letters are not displaying correct, in filesystem, or in applications (vim) [06:00] the letters æøå [06:00] font problem then [06:00] try some other font. [06:01] You think? hm.. ok, I'll try that, but I have tried almost every one, probably missed some then hehe... I'll post back later.. [06:01] setconsolefont can do preview. try that.... [06:01] thanks [06:01] np. just guessing. [06:02] btw, does the default kernel support unicode, or do I have to recompile the kernel as well? [06:02] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:02] it does. [06:02] i'm using unicode consoles and locale. [06:03] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.23) joined ##slackware. [06:04] frullet (n=Bob@124-170-3-248.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:04] evenin' [06:05] mornin' [06:05] slava_dp, ok, nice to know its working then :) [06:06] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [06:08] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:12] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left ##slackware (":wq"). [06:13] MLanden: hows it go there mate? [06:13] Goin' good ,frullet..and y'rself? [06:14] MLanden: finnished my exams and feeling fine :) [06:14] cool [06:21] <_RadioHead> hi @all [06:23] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:24] Zordrak, still around? [06:25] I have login working off of pam, I don't know about anything else so far [06:25] because login actually makes home directories [06:25] and I'll be happy if I can get SSH to make home directories. [06:25] deadowl: im on the fence about pam [06:25] i still think it's evil [06:25] but it may be necessary [06:26] so id love to have good homto for slack hanging around [06:26] well, I kind of like the way gentoo sets up its config files for it [06:26] ubuntu's okay because it does it through debconf, but the files aren't really well organized for ldap [06:27] Well, it requires compiling things [06:27] so it'd be easier just to distribute a shell script [06:27] and I did it on slack12 but not anything else. [06:27] 12.0* [06:28] so yea [06:28] deadowl: one word [06:28] slackbuild [06:28] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [06:28] yes, I did that [06:28] I actually used someone else's [06:29] but using their builds directly actually broke login until I rebuilt them [06:29] I have no idea why [06:30] but yea [06:30] 1. install cracklib [06:30] 2. install pam's core libs [06:31] petterah (n=petter@static243-165-178.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [06:31] 3. rebuild all the software that's installed that would use pam. [06:31] 4. configure [06:31] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [06:32] that's pretty much the abstract of it. [06:32] oh, you might need pwdb too. [06:32] at some point in there. [06:32] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [06:33] 3. <- ouch [06:33] yep [06:33] of course not so hard if someone distributes a script [06:35] 3 is called the shadow package [06:37] ex. ftp://ftp.pld.org.pl/software/shadow/shadow-4.0.3.tar.gz [06:37] While im against pam being a slackware default, i wouldnt mind seeing the necessaries making it into /extra [06:37] lizardius (n=lizardiu@p57A8DC15.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:38] hi everyone [06:38] in the same way as i never want to see grub being slacks loader... but it's useful to have it in /extra [06:38] Sirus_ (n=Fusion_@82-37-17-103.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:38] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-222.95-102-55.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:38] what would be the best distro to put on a 1·8ghz 256 mg ram pc? [06:38] <_RadioHead> hi lizardius [06:38] hi _RadioHead ;) [06:38] <_RadioHead> Sirus_: Slackware [06:38] <_RadioHead> :) [06:39] ahh great,is slackware difficult to install? [06:39] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [06:40] Sirus_: the real answer depends on who you ask. [06:40] true [06:40] you can use one of those "minimal linux" distros or a good slackware install with a self-compiled kernel (to get the maximum out of your spare RAM) [06:41] <_RadioHead> Sirus_: WELL you can read little bit manual and supose it is not difficulte just visit www.slackware.com [06:43] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn172.91-127-190.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Linus (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.110) joined ##slackware. [06:44] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:46] deanet (n=atp@125.161.225.234) left irc: "Leaving" [06:47] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [06:50] frullet (n=Bob@124-170-3-248.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [06:58] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-cc69e877c267afc8) joined ##slackware. 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[07:44] nooper, gif is a bad format lol [07:44] hey guys i've got a question, where's auth.log, or whatever its equivilant is? i cant seem to find it in /var/log or anywhere else [07:44] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:44] heh [07:45] k0pp_: probally /var/log/secure [07:45] ah [07:45] syslog is setup to log authpriv to /var/log/secure, not sure if thats what you want [07:46] looks right, thanks :) [07:46] anything else, just check /etc/syslog.conf, thats what i did [07:46] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:46] great thanks a ton. [07:47] slackwaregallery ! [07:47] might want to check logrotate too, i have this feeling that not much of secure is preserved [07:48] kth2 (n=chatzill@ip-210-185-7-130.internet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [07:50] kth2 (n=chatzill@ip-210-185-7-130.internet.co.nz) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.15/2009030311]" [07:50] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:50] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD88CE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:51] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD88389.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:52] man i love the look of slackware,just a case of getting used to it and learning it [07:52] i wouldl ike to learn it off command line [07:54] "the look of Slackware" is the look of whatever WM/DE you are running. Slackware is unbranded. You just get what KDE/foo developers made [07:55] hnnng [07:57] nayro (n=dshfp943@201.22.137.219.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:58] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:00] Sirus_, start reading the slackbook and you will progress rapidly. [08:00] slava_dp, slack book? [08:00] Sirus_, read the channel topic. [08:00] i am amazed on how customizeable slack is, [08:01] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:01] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-cc69e877c267afc8) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:01] i am amazed on how retarted windows server editions are [08:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:01] the help pages are a joke [08:01] Sirus_, slackbook and slackwiki are very good learning resources. [08:02] why am i even working on this shit? why isnt the wintendo-admin confuckering this stupid active directory [08:02] *sigh* [08:02] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-197fb9e6ebeb1936) joined ##slackware. [08:03] i have fedora on at the mo but tempted to try slack [08:03] slack is nice [08:03] i have it running somewhere [08:03] i kind of lost the machine tho [08:03] it's a virtual machine hosted on a server somewhere in my office but i cant remember where :D [08:03] fedora sucks. [08:04] i never used fedore [08:04] slava why does fedora suck? [08:04] i like centos a bit also [08:04] it has a very enterprisy feel to it =) [08:04] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:04] Action: _RadioHead agree with tewmten :) [08:04] by definition :) [08:04] <_RadioHead> hi tewmten man [08:04] hey _RadioHead hows it going [08:05] <_RadioHead> nice i am playing with mdadm :) , how thigns there [08:05] confuckering this windows server [08:05] i feel so dirty [08:05] seems like i should check out centos sometime [08:06] _RadioHead: i found this little package that contains a bunch of tools to do authentication against windows AD, works really nice [08:06] _RadioHead: so im trying to hook up AD auth in apache on all the linux systems [08:06] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:06] and see if i can get a tru single sign on at the office between all our servers =) [08:06] <_RadioHead> what package coz i just arrived @office :) [08:07] _RadioHead: http://www.likewise.com [08:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:07] _RadioHead: they have a version that is free and contains the essential stuff to do auth [08:07] <_RadioHead> loading... [08:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:09] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:09] <_RadioHead> intersting thing [08:11] dgc_ (n=_dgc@189.23.192.2) joined ##slackware. [08:15] yht (n=yht@114.121.104.73) joined ##slackware. [08:17] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-197fb9e6ebeb1936) left irc: [08:19] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-d8d84a262c0579da) joined ##slackware. [08:19] dgc_ (n=_dgc@189.23.192.2) left irc: "Leaving" [08:23] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:23] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [08:24] _RadioHead: yes it makes it very simple to configure a linux box as a AD client [08:24] _RadioHead: and it shouldnt need any modifications to the AD server.. just worked out of the box on a fresh win2008 AD server [08:24] against a* [08:26] <_RadioHead> :) so i need a w2k8 AD server to test this thingy [08:26] <_RadioHead> ? [08:29] tewmten: MS rely on it bing retarded [08:29] it's so retarded people have to do expensive courses [08:29] which makes staff worth more money [08:29] which means more spent on MS infrastructure in general [08:29] uh... [08:29] AD is NOT hard [08:29] which makes CIOs too scared to change [08:30] straterra: AD in general isnt [08:30] server 2008 isnt either [08:30] straterra: but top to bottom config of an MS server with all the trimmings can be very hard because its so fuckwitted in design and implementation [08:31] I've never had an issue [08:31] i just cant figure out how to get the dhcp server on win2008 to also do dyndns [08:31] windows server is brain damaged [08:31] i happen to admin one [08:31] if you do it on a daily basis.. yes its easy.. but for those that arent used to it or trained in it.. you have to completely tear down your own sense of common sense and rebuild it the MS way [08:31] i mean the dhcp looks fine, it adds the hostname, but where do i configure what zone to update, and where that zone is located so the dhcp server knows how to update it [08:31] twolf: go to the dhcp server config [08:32] aight [08:32] right click on the server in the console, click properties [08:32] tewmten: that was for you [08:32] i know [08:32] kk [08:32] im looking at the properties window [08:32] ill give exact steps when i get to work, k? [08:32] that'd be awesome [08:33] im looking at the properties windows of the dhcp scop right now, that's the one you mean i guess [08:33] I ran windows server 2008 and it kept reboting [08:33] di3d (n=di3d@un-158-110.domainunused.net) joined ##slackware. [08:33] I have no idea why [08:34] Even just the startup procedure for an XK bok is insane.. and if you gave an XP box to a linux admin that had never seen windows hed be seriously confused... i mean theres like 6 different places to configure "on start" apps.. some in profiles some in registry some in fules [08:34] Where I can get slackware 3.0? [08:34] ugh [08:34] di3d: wtfZ [08:34] was there ever a slackware 3.0? [08:34] yes ;) [08:34] hm [08:34] when was the version number jump then? [08:34] :) [08:34] http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/ [08:34] 3.3 is available on the slackware.no mirror [08:35] thx [08:35] di3d: why do you want it? [08:35] unversioned packages ftw [08:35] di3d: Alzheimers? [08:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.2.116) joined ##slackware. [08:35] typewriter [08:36] that's 3.2, but as old as I can locate here [08:36] thrice`: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-3.3 [08:36] tewmten, around 7 [08:36] aah [08:37] vatgas (n=val@123.145.44.118) left irc: "Leaving." [08:37] the version bump was from 4.0 to 8.0, i read the history :) [08:37] 4.0 to 7.0 [08:37] Zordrak: 3.3 is older than 3.2? :> [08:37] okay, might be wrong there. [08:38] I have a copy of 7.0 too [08:38] i never used slack before 8.0 [08:38] or was it 7.1 [08:38] cant remember [08:39] I clearly recall 7.1. It was a solid release [08:39] and it just got better from there and forward :) [08:40] at the interview for my current job the R&D manager called me hardcore when i said the first linux dist i used was slackware [08:40] :p [08:40] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:40] tewmten <- hardcore [08:41] yea i thought it was kinda funny :p [08:41] I'm from Poland so I don't speak english too good ;) [08:41] my first was slackware also on 3.x that came with a 1000+ page UNIX book [08:41] i still have the cd [08:41] "what was your first linux dist?" "slackware" "ah, hardcore hehe.." "so what do you use here?" "ubuntu" "BWAHUAHUAHAUHAU" [08:41] and the book [08:41] everything except the last part is tru [08:41] hahahaaaaaa tewmten [08:41] i didnt laught like that at them [08:42] not until i got my contract at least :D [08:42] you felt like it though =) [08:42] Action: slava_dp used suse 9.2 for about a year. then a modified slackware 10.2 (local build), then slackware 11.0 and up. funny how it went. [08:42] yea i was laughing on the inside [08:43] Action: slava_dp has never seen slackware 3.3 :( [08:43] suse is a good start on linux :) [08:45] Action: dtanner slaps a "HardCore Linux BOFH" sticker on tewmten's head. [08:45] lol [08:45] Camarade_Tux, yeah, my biggest problem at the time was that i didn't know `fdisk -l`. So i used yast's disk manager every time i needed to look up a storage device name. [08:46] Camarade_Tux, when i finally figured out fdisk -l, i switched to slackware. lol. [08:46] slava_dp: when you found "fdisk -l" and said WTF!? =) [08:47] dtanner, =) not far from reality [08:47] slava_dp, hehe ;p [08:47] =0 [08:47] I know them by heart ;) [08:48] AjeZ (n=AjeZ@unaffiliated/ajez) joined ##slackware. [08:48] fdisk -l changed my life :) [08:48] hehe [08:48] nay, really :) you may laugh, but yeah :) [08:48] braqoon (n=braqoon@gatekeeper.office.dialogue.net.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:48] cfdisk /dev/xxx would have really impressed you! some find it easier to use. [08:49] I started late with slack, version 10.0.....love it:) [08:49] i use cfdisk exclusively for partitioning [08:49] i just needed a way to *list* the devices. to see what name corresponds to what device. [08:49] AjeZ (n=AjeZ@unaffiliated/ajez) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [08:49] but nothing compares to `fdisk -l` for enumeration [08:49] cfdisk is good [08:49] true that [08:50] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:50] yep, cfdisk is good [08:50] isnt cfdisk just a frontend to fdisk? [08:50] it just needs to be blue ncurses :) [08:50] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-8a1f2a210cce8073) joined ##slackware. [08:51] I also like fdisk -l and blkid for giving good information [08:51] tewmten: hmm not sure about it being a frontend to fdisk. good question [08:52] hi does anyone problems with compiling mod_python in 12.2 or current ? i got http://paste.pocoo.org/show/111446/ . Using standard 12.2 httpd + python packages. [08:52] i don't think it is, but i could be wrong of course [08:53] but cfdisk still has broken locale. if you try it in russian, for example, it says -- enter "40" ("yes") to save what you did. when you enter "40", it tells you it does not understand. neither will it understand a "yes". so you go and restart it with `LANG=en_US cfdisk /dev/xxx" -- then it works. [08:53] yht (n=yht@114.121.104.73) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:53] i use unicode, so that might be the cause. [08:53] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [08:53] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:54] blame unicode, sounds good to me [08:54] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.209) left irc: "Leaving." [08:54] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.209) joined ##slackware. [08:55] I'm terribly sad : y/ used to have more games ='( [08:55] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-2.0.1/slakware/y1/ [08:56] lol! tetris! [08:56] yeah, I want it back ! [08:56] i have been playing foobillard a lot ( not that it comes in slack ) but it is very cool. except i can't figure out how to control ho hard the ball is hit with the stick [08:56] eh a package of 9KB. [08:56] it always just knocks the crap out of it [08:57] vim was 150KB, emacs was more than 9MB... [08:57] and same-gnome is addicting to me also [08:57] it feels like gzip had a much better compression ratio ;p [08:58] lzma ftw! [08:58] i never install emacs anymore. i have never liked emacs that much, then again i never give it much of a chance. i just "vi" everything [08:58] Dominian: lzma ? [08:58] oh compression [08:58] n/m [09:00] one of my favorite games for linux is "Tron" but i can't remember how to zoom "all the way out" so i can see the entire board [09:00] seems i had to change something either during the build or the config file to fix zoom [09:01] Action: Camarade_Tux can't wait for tukaawin to finish and release liblzma/libxz [09:01] some gnu projects have started shipping .tar.xz stuff [09:01] s/tukaawin/tukaani/ >< [09:01] xz? [09:01] thrice`, but it's not stable [09:02] nooper, basically lzma [09:02] I can't recall what kernel 2.0.1 used [09:02] o [09:02] lzma's successor, I think [09:02] but they had incompatible changes so they changed the name and the extension [09:02] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-204870.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:02] liblzma can only do decompression btw, libxz can do compression too [09:03] thrice`, what's the lzma's successor? [09:03] maxote, xz [09:03] I thought xv-utils [09:04] what's the difference of size between enwiki_1GB.7z and enwiki_1GB.xz ? [09:04] http://tukaani.org/xz/ er, xz utils [09:04] maxote, shouldn't be very different [09:05] but 7zip has a terrible code, it's quite dirty and unusable as a library [09:06] coreutils ships two: .tar.gz = 9438KB, .tar.xz = 3930KB [09:06] thanks to God [09:06] that's a very impressive size decrease. [09:07] so we can go back to a cd release for slack 13.0? [09:07] we could fit all of slackware on one cd if we used that =) [09:07] thumbs, lol [09:07] I was gonna say [09:07] sure it's fitted 2 CDs to 1 CD [09:07] braqoon (n=braqoon@gatekeeper.office.dialogue.net.uk) left ##slackware. [09:07] half bandwidth [09:07] cd1, install, cd2, docs/source. Simple [09:08] w00t [09:08] i want it [09:08] vatgas3 (n=val@124.162.2.111) joined ##slackware. [09:08] but older machines will choke on decompression of that stuff. [09:08] download an iso at 1MB/s, and you have slack in 10 minutes [09:08] actually, lzma compression wouldn't result in a compression ratio as good as coreutils show [09:10] it was my history, .gz -> .bz2 -> .7z -> .lzma -> .xz (now) [09:10] gz is still faster than all [09:11] and especially when decompressing [09:11] sahko, but 7z/lzma/xz will be often be faster since decompression is often I/O bound and 7z/lzma/xz require much less input [09:11] for decompression that is [09:11] and bzip2, is just too slow [09:12] what does slack use for dhcp? [09:13] isnt it the ics dhcpcd ? [09:13] hm [09:13] it should say in the manual [09:13] man dhcpcd [09:13] tewmten: yeah, but that would be too easy [09:14] i like easy tasks [09:14] =) [09:15] heh [09:15] dhcpcd and dhclient, the difference being that dhcpcd actually works [09:16] nah man, dhclient works [09:16] i think [09:16] i dunno, i never use it [09:16] dhcpcd works [09:16] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [09:16] but im sure it works [09:16] dhclient does not. i tried it :) [09:16] dhclient is iffy [09:16] =) [09:16] however, I've seen that a lot of other distributions are rolling away from dhcpcd and starting to use dhclicent [09:16] yeah [09:17] really? I've not seen one [09:17] wicd with dhclient does not work for me. i. e. routes and dns settings are not applied. [09:17] while with dhcpcd it just works. [09:17] thrice`: openSUSE/Fedora/CentOS [09:17] its all about confuckering it correctly i think [09:18] Dominian: and the debian/ubuntu and all those dists [09:18] thrice`( [09:18] * [09:19] aye [09:19] Action: slava_dp stares at the word "confuckering" and wonders. [09:19] thrice`: Is that enough? :P [09:19] oh, I suppose I don't mess with any of those :) [09:20] hehe [09:20] confuckering ftw......awesome:) [09:20] is that network-manager related? [09:21] thrice`: what? Using dhclient? I"m sure network manager is involved [09:21] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.80) joined ##slackware. [09:23] mintee (i=1000@72-165-177-67.dia.static.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [09:24] Nick change: madbear -> scrav [09:24] okay [09:25] Nick change: scrav -> madbear [09:26] know what the package is for dhclient? [09:26] tewmten: ping [09:26] straterra: icmp echo reply [09:26] ;) [09:26] JLinux (n=usr@189.115.228.246.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:26] tewmten: still need help with dyndns? [09:27] im digging through the technet forums but i have found nothing usefull [09:27] yes please :) [09:27] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-76-201.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:27] do you have the rndc.key file thing? [09:27] Eh? Not needed [09:27] nah [09:27] but good to have [09:28] is that applicable in windows? [09:28] tewmten: You have both DHCP and DNS in the domain using win2k8, right? [09:28] JLinux (n=usr@189.115.228.246.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [09:28] straterra: yes, its on the same server [09:28] kk [09:28] and same domain [09:28] hello [09:28] Lemme remote in to one of the servers here [09:28] Sirus_ (n=Fusion_@82-37-17-103.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:28] =) [09:29] howto add to kdemenu a link that open a shell with the command i want, but without closing it [09:29] err..what? [09:30] tewmten: What are you needing help with? [09:30] Action: Dominian missed most of the conversation [09:30] Dominian: windows.. *sigh* :) [09:30] tewmten: fill me in [09:30] Just dyndns with dhcp [09:30] Dominian: trying to make a win2008 server act as dhcp server which does dyndns [09:30] Nick change: di3d -> lekarz [09:30] oh [09:30] good luck with that [09:30] :) [09:30] thanks! :) [09:31] Ok, remoting in [09:31] being Windows.. not sure if its capable of that [09:31] Nick change: lekarz -> di3d [09:31] I had to kick a couple people off [09:31] no it is [09:31] It's capable and very simple [09:31] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:31] Open the DHCP console [09:31] yeah i think im just too unfamiliar with windows servers to figure it out [09:31] Ok let me rephrase: It may be capable.. doesn't mean its going to work right :P [09:31] Right click on the server name [09:31] straterra: i went to server manager then clicked the dhcp server icon, that is what you mean? [09:32] It's in the level higher than the scope/server options [09:32] You could go to administrative tools and click dhcp from there [09:32] Or run mmc.exe and attach a dhcp console to it [09:32] open the "pwned" console [09:32] :D [09:32] straterra: ok im there, right click the name and then? [09:32] properties [09:33] i only have two input fields there, database path and backup path [09:33] eh? [09:33] hm [09:33] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "Leaving" [09:33] the one over the scope selection.. ok it says IPv4 and then IPv6.. so I click ipv4 and properties [09:33] now i got some tabs, generals, dns, network acces protection, advanced [09:34] i think this is more correct, yes? [09:34] Maybe [09:34] Is there a DNS tab in three? [09:34] there^ [09:34] yes [09:34] Go in there [09:34] See anything about dynamic updates? [09:34] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) joined ##slackware. [09:35] yes [09:35] its enabled [09:35] lets think i want to add "top" to kdemenu, i want konsole keep opened ... if i add top or other console command, konsole execute the comand and auto-close it self.. i don't want that. [09:35] Even for clients that don't request it? [09:35] "Dynamicly update dns blabla if requested by client" [09:35] nope, i will select that one then [09:36] the check boxes at the bottom? discard a record... and dynamicly update dns clients blabla clients that do not request updates [09:36] yeah..the very bottom [09:36] i guess i should have those also selected? [09:36] Yup, for both [09:36] ok done [09:36] monstro (i=monstro@201-43-251-146.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Also select the bubble for "Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records" [09:36] got that one [09:37] Then go to advanced [09:37] oooh [09:37] i never saw the dyndns credentials button [09:37] Is there a credentials button? [09:37] :) [09:37] haha [09:37] You need to put credentials of an admin user account in there [09:37] got it [09:37] okthats done.. [09:37] do i have to add a zone or something? [09:38] or will it handle that itself? [09:38] well, it'll assume the AD domain for clients [09:38] yes but i want to put it on another dns zone [09:38] is that possible? [09:38] What do you mean? [09:39] Like..a domain other than the AD one? [09:39] I think you can do that by setting a different domain in the DHCP scope [09:39] because we have a zone for the AD stuff called qgo.office, but i want to make the dyndns names for clients go under the dhcp.q-go.net zone [09:39] But yes, you'll need to have that zone created in the DNS console [09:39] Dr-X (n=doctor-x@213.185.116.152) joined ##slackware. [09:39] ok well then i have to make that zone [09:41] Sirus_ (n=Fusion_@82-37-17-103.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:41] ok i made a forward and a reverse lookup zone with dynamic updates enabled [09:41] hey can any one give me some direction on slackware? im me. [09:41] On one of the clients, if its Windows, you should be able to do ipconfig /registerdns [09:41] Sirus_: no one is going to PM you..what do you need to know? [09:42] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:43] i just want to ask some very noob questions about slackware [09:43] will it run on low end machines? [09:44] Then ask them here [09:44] Define low end [09:44] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) joined ##slackware. [09:44] 1.8ghz 256 mb ram [09:44] <_RadioHead> anyone why /dev/md0 (example in my case) always after reboot is not active ? always i need to start manualy [09:44] That's not really low end, but yes [09:44] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:44] straterra: ok well i dont have any windows clients in my sandbox.. [09:44] <_RadioHead> via mdadm * [09:44] tewmten: what clients do you have? [09:44] centos only [09:44] oh [09:44] is it difficult to install slackware? [09:44] try to get a dhcp addy then [09:44] Sirus_: No [09:45] straterra, i was told it was. [09:45] straterra: yea i did it, and i see in the dhcp console it says it gave the ip also the sandbox2.dhcp.q-go.net name [09:45] You were just told it wasn't. :) [09:45] straterra: but i cant resolve it hehe [09:45] i will see what teh event log says [09:45] tewmten: check on the AD server to see if its in the dns zone [09:45] you have the Win2k8 server set to use its own dns, right? [09:45] straterra, is it true people prefer to work straight from the command line? [09:45] yea [09:46] straterra: its not in the zone, i mustve missed something in the zone config [09:46] Sirus_: that's personal preference, but some people do. [09:46] you got any screenshots of your desktop? [09:46] also, does it compare to fedora core? [09:47] Compare in what way? [09:47] And..its just KDE/XFCE/whatever environment you choose [09:47] speed,stability,choice [09:47] You can look at screenshots on the project's websites [09:47] link? [09:47] google.com [09:47] i think i will add a dummy domain name outside the dhcp scope just so i can check that the server actually resolves this zone.. [09:48] i cant reload the zone, locked for transfer it says.. how do i freeze a zone in windows? :P [09:48] kama (n=kama@87.19.115.142) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:48] locked for transfer? [09:48] ya [09:49] now it worked.. hm [09:49] weird [09:49] Do you have multiple win2k8 servers in the domain? [09:49] yeah but they arent connected at this moment [09:50] are they DC's? [09:50] yes im pretty sure they are [09:50] well it's this server and another one [09:50] eternal__ (n=eternal@d58-104-192-141.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:50] but the second one is not online at the moment [09:50] uh so no.. only one server at the moment =) [09:50] It may have been trying to replicate the DNS data [09:50] guys, is any of you familiar with bea's weblogic? [09:51] Hi i am wanting to merge from ubuntu to slackware Is it possible to keep the same files and structure when installing slackware? [09:51] When you have multiple domain controllers with dns role installed, they will automagically replicate dns with each other [09:51] straterra: well, anyway i see that the dns zone is working, but still its not taking the dynamic update from the dhcp server [09:51] eternal__: what files/structure? [09:52] tewmten: Try to set the domain name to that of the AD domain in the DHCP config [09:52] straterra: Files i have installed like irc nginx server tomcat [09:52] ok [09:52] AjeZ (n=AjeZ@unaffiliated/ajez) joined ##slackware. [09:52] hi [09:52] eternal__: Doubtful [09:53] i've a old slackware 10 and i need to update openssl to version 0.9.8k, do i have to compile it with some particular configure flag? [09:53] straterra: is there a full reposotry that is able to install those packages in Slackware rather then me having to install by hand [09:53] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:53] eternal__: there is the standard repo on the mirrors and there are websites like slackbuilds.org [09:53] well [09:54] AjeZ: I would take Pats buildscript to recompile it. [09:54] tewmten, is there an x server on your box? [09:54] aldin (n=aldin@host-226-242.team.ba) joined ##slackware. [09:54] (dns box) [09:54] Is it worth moving from ubuntu8.03 to slackware i have herd it is better [09:54] deadowl: the dns box is Server 2008... [09:54] eternal__: if you want to [09:54] oh [09:54] aldin (n=aldin@host-226-242.team.ba) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:54] eternal__: ..... *headdesk* [09:54] It's all preference [09:54] straterra: what server 2008 huh? [09:54] BP{k}: ? [09:54] deadowl: eh? [09:54] BP{k}: where can i find it? [09:55] straterra: the dns box [09:55] Yeah? [09:55] yea [09:55] eternal__: What doyou think in a channel called ##slackware, the typical answer will bE? [09:55] It runs Windows Server 2008 [09:55] okay [09:55] yer i supose ha [09:55] i've only used bind [09:55] thanx for the info [09:55] is the dhcp server on the same box? [09:55] deadowl: no X11 server on my DNS box ;) [09:55] Yes [09:55] eternal__ (n=eternal@d58-104-192-141.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [09:55] tewmten: dhcp server same box? [09:55] AjeZ: sources on any mirror. [09:55] yes [09:56] Yes.. [09:56] is there an echo in here? :D [09:56] tewmten: you changed the dns domain in the dhcp config back, right? [09:56] tewmten: howdy! :) [09:56] tewmten: you should install wireshark and listen on your local loopback interface [09:56] deadowl: for..what? [09:56] wait... does wireshark work on windows? [09:56] yes [09:56] Yes, wireshark works on windows...kinda [09:56] straterra: yes [09:56] straterra: to see if the DHCP server is sending messages [09:56] deadowl: DHCP works.. [09:56] straterra: im doing more requests right now to see what it gives me [09:56] deadowl: just..uhm..let me help him [09:56] straterra: to the DNS server [09:57] The DHCP and DNS server are on the same machine [09:57] okaaay [09:58] it doesnt seem to wanna take my changes, it still making the names in the old zone [09:58] restart the dhcp service [09:59] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [09:59] slackbunny (n=slackbun@173.9.254.98) joined ##slackware. [10:00] damn [10:00] so much click [10:00] clicking* [10:00] lol [10:00] i will have repetetive stress syndrome by the end of the day :D [10:01] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [10:02] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:03] ok i will try again.. shut off the client, clear the leases on the server, restart dhcp server, request new ip.. [10:03] AjeZ (n=AjeZ@unaffiliated/ajez) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [10:03] and still it doesnt take the update.. [10:03] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [10:04] but this is not a live setup [10:04] i think i should just kill the dhcp and redo the config from scratch [10:06] LinuxyErin (n=erin@76.208.82.72) left irc: "leaving" [10:08] Might be a good idea [10:08] hm okay [10:08] well even if i put it in the default zone, the same as the AD, it still doesnt update [10:08] i think i need to take a cigarette break [10:08] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] straterra: thanks for the help man =) [10:08] NP [10:09] well appreciated, especially since this is not really a windows channel :D [10:09] Meh [10:09] It's prolly rhe least offensive off topic i participate in [10:09] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [10:09] the% [10:10] tru [10:10] hehe [10:10] well.. aboot that break.. bbl [10:13] deadowl (n=deadowl@132.198.13.184) left irc: "Leaving" [10:13] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:14] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [10:15] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:15] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:17] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[10:37] o.O [10:37] yay [10:37] straterra: i redid the config from the beginning once more, and now it just works [10:37] :) [10:37] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:38] sweet [10:38] Told you, that you were doing it wrong [10:38] :P [10:38] with the alternate domain? [10:38] ya [10:38] and it makes ptr records also [10:38] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:39] Good [10:40] well that wasnt that hard really.. [10:40] just probably i was doing it in the wrong order :P [10:44] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. 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[11:51] noobish: GATEWAY in rc.inet1.conf is your default gateway (for leaving your subnet) [11:52] if your nameservers (/etc/resolv.conf) are outside your subnet.. the gateway must be right [11:55] monstro (i=monstro@201-43-251-146.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:56] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:58] 54is slackware fast then? [11:58] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:59] AlphaWaves (n=JohnDoe@nat-kiev.ac-rouen.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:59] lo [11:59] UdontKnow hello [12:00] we know each other... [12:04] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.187.131) joined ##slackware. [12:05] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-105-96.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [12:05] ??? [12:05] French people are weird :) [12:06] oh no [12:06] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-172-42.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX: may cause birth defects" [12:07] yes we are ;) [12:07] oui camarade [12:07] mais non! [12:07] Sirus_, uhh, try again? [12:08] yht (n=yht@114.121.14.9) joined ##slackware. [12:09] othermindszine (n=othermin@126.sub-70-192-2.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:11] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:13] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-d8d84a262c0579da) left irc: [12:15] sera a tutti [12:17] http://blag.xkcd.com/2009/04/03/what-happened-to-my-laptop/ <--- muhahaha, stupid package manager and stupid meta packages [12:19] Linus (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.110) left irc: Client Quit [12:21] harsh [12:24] haha [12:25] AlphaWaves (n=JohnDoe@nat-kiev.ac-rouen.fr) left irc: [12:25] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.23) left irc: "Leaving" [12:25] slackbunny (n=slackbun@173.9.254.98) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:26] the question is really is that a "package manager" fault of just sheer PEBKAC [12:26] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:27] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:27] well, the blogger is not the most stupid person on earth [12:27] step 13 indicates definitely user-fail [12:28] thrice`: my point exactly. :) [12:28] wow lol [12:29] a debian repository... wtf [12:29] what I find wrong is even the ability to use packages from another distro [12:30] and on this point, ubuntu advertises compatibility [12:31] One of them looks, shakes her head, and says my system is like that guy in Star Trek after the transporter accident. <----- LOL [12:31] and I think the part with the biggest fail is that apt seems unable to handle the fact that several repos provide a same package [12:32] it's bad PM design [12:33] I want to make a PM for windows (except it's so far away on my priority list) and even *I* thought about that problem [12:33] slackbunny (n=slackbun@173.9.254.98) joined ##slackware. [12:33] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] Camarade_Tux: why do you hate yourself so much? [12:34] because he's french? :P [12:35] Necos, it's been on hold for a looooooong time ;) [12:35] lizardius (n=lizardiu@p57A8DC15.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:35] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:35] lol [12:35] antler, I don't even hate myself ;) [12:36] he's just a masochist ;) [12:36] Camarade_Tux: i have yet to meet someone who truly hated himself [12:37] actually, it should be pretty simple so I don't even need to be masochist [12:38] :) [12:39] should be really really short but I want to use lzma-compressed files and as I said, that's a pain because there is currently no stable lib providing both compression and decompression for lzma [12:40] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-198747.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:42] keoni (i=1000@208.106.15.140) joined ##slackware. [12:44] ah [12:44] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [12:45] could just use gz/bz compression... albeit making for larger files [12:45] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [12:46] rg3 (n=deckard@90.168.194.221) joined ##slackware. [12:47] bz is really too slow on decompression [12:47] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:47] gz gives quite low compression [12:48] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:48] at first I wanted to use 7za (so the command-line tool) but it isn't flexible enough [12:49] except if I try to write to stdout and pipe to the correct files but then I don't know how to get the file limits [12:49] lol or write your own... since you're already feeling particularly masochistic [12:49] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-2-140.50-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [12:50] I wanted to but 7zip's source code is a mess [12:50] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] fredoslack (n=IceChat7@APoitiers-257-1-142-9.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:51] it's such a mess that pylzma bindings just took 7zip's source, modified it and shipped them [12:51] messy code pownz j00 [12:51] or take an MS approach and increase the hardware =P [12:52] and today's news : my mother forgot how to print a pdf on windows [12:52] hehe [12:52] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] correction, MS/Intel [12:52] lol [12:52] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-2-140.50-151.net24.it) left irc: Client Quit [12:52] so there's much worse than writing a PM for windows ;) [12:53] remember, your mother loves you :) [12:53] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:53] or wants to kill you, depending on the medication [12:53] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-105-96.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [12:53] but she doesn't want to make cookies because she says they're not tasty ='( [12:53] on the other hand, she's gonna make pancakes :) [12:54] todays new form this part of the globe: Mi cought my gf a Ipod Touch and she friggin loves. Now i want one. You have to acess it using a vm running windows+itunes. Turns out it is the *only* Ipod not natively supported in Linux. I want my own really bad now that i have seen hers in action. End of News. [12:54] i'll take pancakes over cookies :) [12:54] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:54] s/Mi Cought/I Bought/ [12:54] grazymax (n=grazymax@host79-156-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Action: thrice` loves his ipod touch [12:55] she could make both ! [12:55] Action: Camarade_Tux loves his freedom ;) [12:55] lol [12:55] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:55] thrice`: the fsckin rock don't they? super nice. [12:55] very nice [12:55] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-204870.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:55] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [12:56] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [12:56] hehehe dtanner you were talking about that yesterday [12:57] it does suck having to use my girlfriends mac just to change songs, but meh [12:57] Necos: was I? didn't think i mentioned in this #. anyways they are worth a double mention. these things are bad a$$. [12:57] you did =p [12:57] yeah, I think you did :) [12:58] thrice`: use vbox closed source ( open source does not have usb support ) and run windows+itunes then you don;t have to get out of linux to acces it. [12:58] I don't want a device that can't be used with plain old mount [12:58] i want my own now! bad. [12:59] i can't justify buying a chunky mp3 player since my phone has decent storage and a funcioning mp3 player [12:59] not being able to use "mount" is a minor downfall. [12:59] you could try updating the lib :) [12:59] whenever i see those big ipods i'm like, can i make a call ? [13:00] considering it can play games, wifi, internet, mail, internet-radio, etc., it's worth it [13:00] i use a sansa e260 ^_^ [13:00] sberla54 (n=sberla54@93-42-38-180.ip85.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Gone" [13:00] thrice`, I want it to work everywhere without any additional software [13:00] yes, minor. these touches have mad video and sound quality. [13:00] e280 rather [13:00] hmm, i do wish i had wifi on phone [13:02] i am going to get out my wifi router now so she can connect with the touch that way [13:02] Camarade_Tux: i'd suggest the sandisk line of players... the only ones that i know that can be used as a usb stick [13:02] having 100 more features is worth the extra piece of software :) [13:02] I need to buy a new mp3 player but I'm sure I won't use anything from apple and I probably wouldn't even if it were given to me [13:02] heard about that new battery that's going to revolutionise all handheld devices? [13:02] it's called the matrix? [13:02] i forget the technology... [13:02] I had a samsung flash-based player, it worked well [13:02] phrag: haven't heard about that [13:02] and handled shocks, lot of shocks... [13:03] http://www.azocleantech.com/Details.asp?newsID=4903 [13:03] recharges in seconds [13:03] fredoslack (n=IceChat7@APoitiers-257-1-142-9.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:03] if they can couple that with the oxford boffins who made the 'mouse mat' charger, it would be cool [13:03] so within seconds you have 20V and 10A ? [13:05] http://notlost.blogspot.com/2007/10/promised-battery-charger-underwhelms.html [13:05] apparently the wireless charger isn't as cool as it first sounded [13:06] thought it was a pure inductance charger [13:06] ok, reading the article, they compare that to batteries that charge in about 10 minutes so that sounds more realistic [13:06] inductance through air causes too much power loss [13:07] iirc intel said it would lose about 50% of the power... [13:07] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:07] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [13:08] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [13:08] hi there [13:08] arny: Hi, how are you? [13:08] hi arny [13:09] hi [13:09] cuba (n=cub@193.1.184.254) joined ##slackware. [13:09] this is some pretty cool stuff [13:09] hey, since eclipse 3.4.2 on slackbuilds, it is completely ruined [13:10] anybody have this problem ? [13:10] ? [13:11] the problem is, after eclipse package installation, the eclipse update system dosn't work at all [13:12] you can install successfully how many plugins (JST,WST) you want, with no errors, but they do not get alive, you have still the default installation [13:12] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:12] sounds like that would mix files compiled by different people, with different settings [13:12] but I don't use eclipse at all [13:12] they just exists in $HOME/.eclipse/.../plugins/ [13:13] firebird619, thanks, I'm fine! you? [13:13] zordrak: i figured GATEWAY was the default in rc.inet1.conf. But why the mention of DEFAULT_GW? Is this just old gouge? [13:14] arny: I'm great, Thank you. [13:14] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:17] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Are internets down or is it happening only in Finland? [13:20] only in finland [13:21] oculus_: yeah the entire internet is down [13:21] http://www.internetpulse.net/ [13:21] well only http:s dont work [13:21] nah, downloads are still great [13:22] oculus_: than that would be the provider that hosts the website you're trying to contact [13:22] http://www.internettrafficreport.com/europe.htm [13:23] omg, why are trains so expensive [13:23] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [13:23] i could fly cheaper [13:23] ur in the wrong country [13:23] its cheaper to use trains in here [13:23] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] Paris-Lyon : 32€ [13:24] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7709E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [13:24] phrag, where are you going? trains are usually cheap around cities... [13:24] between cities take a plane [13:24] y0 slackytude :) [13:24] greetings ^-^ [13:25] does the network configuration affect linux's ability to ping the default gateway? It's like a catch 22, no? [13:25] cuz I have a windows box that can ping the gateway, but not the linux box [13:25] noobish, is the NIC configured? [13:26] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [13:26] yeah it works fine with dhcp on another router [13:26] Floops[w] (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] ya did netconfig just to be sure, but after looking at the rc.inet1.conf and resolv.conf files, I had the config right before using netconfig [13:26] Who would take a plain for anything less than 500 kilometers? [13:26] plane [13:26] the static ip, netmask, gateway, and dns servers are all idetical between windos and liuux [13:27] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:27] noobish, but you cant ping? [13:27] right [13:27] only on the linux box [13:27] which error? [13:27] nameservers are unreachable as well, everything is. The nameservers are not in the same subnet [13:28] pinging the gateway says destination host unreachable [13:28] fredoslack (n=IceChat7@APoitiers-257-1-142-9.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:28] routing? [13:28] hi [13:28] the default line shown via ip route lsit looks correct [13:28] *list [13:29] fredoslack: Hi, how are you? [13:29] y0 firebird619 [13:29] Hey slackytude. How's it going? [13:29] noobish, are you sure its plugged in? [13:29] it's a very simple table. Just default via the gateway ip, 127.0.0.0/8 and 192.168.52.0/24 src localip [13:29] fredoslack (n=IceChat7@APoitiers-257-1-142-9.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [13:29] firebird619, fine, fine. just got back from work [13:29] yeah i got the blinkin lights and everything [13:30] and i take the same wire and plug it into the windows box and away it goes [13:30] rip Jack Good [13:30] noobish, thats bad [13:30] and long live hal 9000 [13:30] agreed [13:30] never seen that before [13:30] bad NIC? [13:31] hmm [13:31] i guess i could install a pci one to be sure [13:31] but [13:31] altho its kinda unlikely, but if everything else works [13:31] the same nic works fine in dhcp mode [13:31] eh [13:32] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:32] Srbo (n=daniel@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] noobish, some security stuff on the router/switch? [13:33] i don't know what it could be, but that's the only piece of hardware left [13:33] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:33] what is it? [13:33] big scary firewall/router [13:33] :) i'll look into it [13:33] why not dhcp anyway? [13:33] but this ip i'm using is supposed to be DMZ [13:34] maybe dhcp with an expected lease setup [13:34] but the dhcp server is on a diff subnet [13:34] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-158-200.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [13:34] v4nelle (n=van@adsl96-127.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:34] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.218.81) joined ##slackware. [13:34] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [13:34] firebird619, still sitting in the cold? [13:36] It's actually suppose to get to 48 here. [13:36] gooph (n=chatzill@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] 48 is comfortable [13:36] celcius? [13:36] Suppose to be nice all week. So hopefully the cold is gone until next winter. :) [13:36] for martians [13:37] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:37] oculus_: No, that's 48 F. [13:37] lol [13:37] I see :) [13:38] slackytude: still some snow on the ground, but it's melting fast. :) [13:39] Its 39 F here [13:39] that's not bad, could be worse. :) [13:40] oculus_: It's 36 F here right now. [13:41] 20 C ^-^ [13:41] 2 C here. :) [13:42] O_o [13:42] cold [13:42] right now yeah, but it will warm up soon. :d [13:42] 6 C here [13:43] s/:d/:D [13:44] my body temperature is 37.9C and im spitting pieces of my lungs [13:44] :P [13:44] aperturefever, thats bad [13:44] you lungs run hotter than some processors [13:45] yeah :( [13:45] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:45] lot of people ill at the moment [13:45] well, here at least [13:45] here too [13:45] im using inhaler to be able to breath normally [13:45] grmf [13:46] aerolin or sth [13:46] Aldaron_ (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:47] aperturefever, well, I hope you get well, soon [13:48] thanks mate [13:48] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:48] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] heh, apple has patented automatic updates [13:49] yeah i saw that [13:50] pi31415: lol [13:50] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: "Leaving" [13:50] you mean the automatic push of information to client computers ? [13:50] Action: edman007 patents a naming scheme for humans [13:50] Dominus (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:50] thank god i live in europe :P [13:50] Man_of_Wax++ [13:50] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.218.81) left irc: "Leaving" [13:51] Dominus (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:51] Camarade_Tux: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5764992.PN.&OS=PN/5764992&RS=PN/5764992 [13:52] tinyurl ftw [13:52] i fail apparently [13:53] Filed: 1995 [13:53] O_o [13:53] well, with a tinyurl, I would have believed it were a pr0n link [13:53] aye, i like seeing the domain name i'm clicking on [13:53] Camarade_Tux: I think Apple's updates are pull, not push [13:53] ..and thus more likely to check it out ? [13:53] yes they are pull [13:54] or at least this one is [13:54] anyone who posts pr0n links in here gets banned [13:54] from the patent summary : "without interruption of its primary function" [13:54] pi31415, pull ? hugh [13:55] What about lemonparty/goatse/2girls1cup/b&e-pain-olympics/meatspin? [13:55] phrag, not necessarily pr0n but at least nsfw [13:55] straterra: the world would be better without those [13:55] straterra: any of those [13:55] even lemonparty? [13:55] what's lemonparty ? [13:55] google it [13:55] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:55] straterra: yes, even that [13:55] Camarade_Tux: don't [13:55] Do it [13:56] he, I googled it and clicked on the wikipedia link ;) [13:56] chicken [13:57] Action: slackytude still has trouble sleeping after visiting lemonparty [13:57] the horror! [13:57] i'm happy in that i still have not seen some of those [13:58] It's not that bad [13:58] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.144) joined ##slackware. [13:58] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [13:58] The pr0n is not too bad, but posting obfuscated links and getting people to follow them is ban material [13:58] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.181.49) joined ##slackware. [13:59] goatse though...that one got me by one hell of a surprise...first time i saw it i was reading netcraft and somehow goatse mad #1 on their charts, so i clicked it wondering why so popular... [13:59] s/mad/made/ [13:59] heh [13:59] in fact, epecially that since i clicked it at work once from this channel [13:59] i got linked to a shock site by netcraft [13:59] the power of goatse compels you [14:00] make people follow tinyurl links : "new slackware release ! tinyurl.com/133753X" [14:00] Action: edman007 refuses to click [14:00] i hate tinyurl [14:00] we are becoming too lazy :) [14:00] in case anyone missed it: Jack Good, the computer scientist died today. He advised Stanley Kubrick on the HAL9000 and also helped crack enigma in WWII [14:01] isn't tinyurl the opposite of being lazy? [14:01] ah [14:01] he's a good man >< [14:01] a Good man [14:01] TinyURL is a web service that provides short aliases for redirection of long URLs. [14:01] gah,sorry [14:01] so that's lazy [14:02] dive, :( [14:02] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:02] slackytude, friend ! :p [14:02] i don't see how short aliases are lazy but whatever [14:03] cfdisk (n=cfdisk@189.104.9.98) left irc: "[BX] Windows Me, coded entirely by blondes" [14:03] they make rickrolling easier >< [14:04] pr0nrolling ... [14:04] but apparently you can get around the shock factor by specifying the preview subdomain [14:04] preview.tinyurl.com/whatever [14:04] so it takes another extra step [14:05] yeah, the only benefit i see to tinyurl is line breaks for some irc clients [14:05] i use an urlog script [14:05] Speaking of cracking Enigma, does anyone know if they saved Bletchley Park? I heard some time back it ran out of funding and was in danger of being closed down. [14:06] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [14:06] chance22, not sure, I heard that too some time ago [14:06] dive, what's that? All i'm finding is a rock group [14:07] but things being the state they are in this country they probably want to spend the money on another giant elephant [14:07] ReinaDelPlata (n=root@201.250.115.171) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:07] http://tinyurl.com/dz96xr rofl, try previewing that! [14:08] noobish, http://www.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/article/OBITGAT07_20090407-082812/250709 [14:08] dive: Thanks, I'll start poking around. I'd hate to see it go away. [14:09] noobish, try and find out where that tinyurl goes [14:09] i was talking about the urlog script [14:09] ah sorry [14:09] its on irssi website afaik [14:09] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [14:09] haha i like that [14:09] freakinghugeurl.com [14:10] noobish, and where does that go? [14:10] click it [14:10] no thanks :) [14:10] not at work [14:10] noobish, don't worry...not a bad site... [14:10] in fact it goes nowhere [14:11] noobish, http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/url_log.pl I think that's the one I'm using [14:11] I have crontob archive them and clear the log at midnight [14:11] yht (n=yht@114.121.14.9) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:11] I use openurl in irssi [14:11] s/crontob/cronjb [14:11] noobish, that url should just make your browser spin a bit and then give up [14:11] http://tinyurl.com/d7ftbu :) [14:11] it goes somewhere [14:12] it just never gets there [14:12] i think i saw buried in there something.com/holycrapmakeitstop lol [14:12] noobish, no, it goes nowhere.. [14:12] not so. It goes to tinyurl.com/holycrapmakeitstop [14:13] noobish, which links to the huge url that got it there in the first place [14:13] dive, if you think your economy is bad, think what our president said: "I have always opposed of bringing poor people here to work cheap. But I have always supported people freely moving into our country" [14:13] it will make your browser just jump back and forth between tinyurl and huge url forever :) [14:13] right. Come on, you know as well as I do that we are a bunch of semantics bashing nerds [14:14] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:14] Action: edman007 slaps noobish [14:14] Action: edman007 runs [14:15] I have a brick, almost - bought a freeview TV box yesterday and it doesn't find *any* channels at all [14:15] wonder if they will refund... [14:15] best go find out, laters all [14:16] you know it to be true, edman [14:16] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: "A wank a day, keeps the frustrations away" [14:16] dive, just give it to me [14:16] right, because he doesn't care about getting his money back [14:16] i actually snagged a nice router that way [14:17] ffrom a co-worker [14:17] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:17] "It doesn't work." "Oh that's too bad." "I'm going to throw it away." "Give it to me." [14:18] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:23] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: ":wq" [14:23] cool, using vim with irc [14:23] lol [14:23] eh? [14:23] ... [14:23] :wq [14:23] (":wq") [14:24] it's a quit message [14:24] obviously [14:24] just thought it was clever. I'll keep it bottled up inside next time [14:24] yeah you probably should [14:24] ah, great [14:24] the lecture is password protected [14:25] so much for learning from home [14:25] then, years later, I can explode out a pile of clever suppressions in a psychotic rage [14:25] noobish, an irc client ? sure you're not in emacs ? >< [14:25] quite sure [14:26] Linus (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.145) joined ##slackware. [14:27] repelex- (n=STRESSAD@201.86.180.243) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Sirus_ (n=Fusion_@82-37-17-103.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:29] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [14:29] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:30] repelex- (n=STRESSAD@201.86.180.243) left irc: Client Quit [14:30] repelex- (n=STRESSAD@201.86.180.243) joined ##slackware. [14:31] repelex- (n=STRESSAD@201.86.180.243) left ##slackware. [14:31] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [14:32] Sirus_ (n=Fusion_@82-37-17-103.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:33] cuba (n=cub@193.1.184.254) left irc: "Leaving" [14:33] just backing up data to install slack ware, how is slacware with audio and video drivers? [14:33] loud and bright [14:33] Sirus_: just like any other Linux distro, I'd imagine [14:34] its quit and dark without audio and video drivers [14:34] lol [14:34] quite even [14:34] you mean 'quiet' [14:34] quiet actually [14:34] lol [14:34] yeah [14:34] got there in the end [14:34] all is well that ends well [14:35] audio and video ? what's that ? [14:35] :D [14:35] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [14:35] early bird gets the worm, no? [14:35] easier said than done [14:35] "No, actually I don't think that applies to this situation..." [14:35] DeeeeP, you are using a Braille interface, too? [14:36] no , just joking [14:36] do you all run it from the command line or use gui? [14:36] <3 xfce [14:36] <3 xfce [14:36] :D [14:36] Sirus_: run what? [14:36] slackytude, do i get the choice to run xfce instead of any other desktop enviroment [14:37] Sirus_: take your pick of window managers.. kde comes with slack [14:37] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.144) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:37] DeeeeP's puter outputs a series of lightbulb flashes which correspond to binary numbers [14:37] Sirus_, xwmconfig and choose [14:37] i want xfce [14:37] sure, there is xfce, kde, fluxbox, blackbox and some others on SBO [14:37] the lightest weight one [14:37] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:37] you can choose in the isntaller [14:37] twm then [14:37] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.181.49) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:37] noobish, sorry ? [14:37] fluxbox is light [14:38] well, so is xfce [14:38] oh nevermind, i'm up to my tricks again [14:38] noobish, oh i got it [14:38] i want to try and configure it for pure speed [14:38] i have a dual core 3.0 gig [14:38] stumpwm rules them all [14:38] p4 [14:38] 2 gig ddr2 ram [14:38] maybe you want gentoo then [14:38] geforce gtx260 [14:38] dude, my main box is p4 2.6 with a gig of ram [14:38] but yet im a noob so lol... [14:38] Sirus_, i have a 3.4 , 2 GB and works great with xfce [14:39] 2 gigs works for every WM I know of [14:39] hell, my P3 933mhz works just fine with plenty of wms [14:39] even Vista [14:39] fsck all these multicores... i can't afford anything bigger [14:39] Yeah [14:39] i got mine very cheap;) [14:39] Vista runs beautifully on 2 gigs for most workloads [14:39] the quad-core 2.5ghz is only 400 [14:39] vista = 4 gb for good performance [14:39] i ran slack 9.0 in a VM with 32MB of RAM (console) and it ran like a dream =) [14:39] i dont want to install vista lol [14:40] makerc (i=makerc@201-42-165-195.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:40] DeeeeP: Vista runs fine with a gig [14:40] beh [14:40] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [14:40] 400 is still a lot [14:40] memory is cheap [14:40] phrag: Slackware won't install with 32megs of memory any more. [14:40] straterra: 9.0 [14:40] Yes, I know this [14:40] I was just saying. [14:40] straterra: what's min now, 64? [14:40] I believe so [14:40] You can thank the initrd for that. [14:41] Actually for Slackware 12.2 it is a bit more than 64 MB [14:42] Seriously? [14:42] But the installer for -current will fit in 64 MB again [14:42] ok well wish me luck [14:42] That's a bit...uh..crazy [14:42] good luck. :) [14:42] luck [14:42] Sirus_,there's no luck installing slackware [14:42] Sirus_, its no rocket science [14:42] Slackware is easy to install. [14:43] Sirus_, check /topic for slackbook [14:43] well if i succeed you will see me in hee soon if not you know whats happened lol [14:43] you will come back anyway ... crying :D [14:43] Sirus_: you went with vista? =P [14:43] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:43] ls [14:44] whoops =P [14:44] come back if you do cry, we enjoy licking tears [14:44] wrong window [14:44] phrag, . .. porn/ [14:44] =) [14:44] ^-^ [14:44] type the password next time instead, ls is not fun [14:44] Phoul (n=Not@sourcemage/guru/Phoul) joined ##slackware. [14:44] noobish, we do? [14:44] noobish, didnt get the memo [14:44] yes i spoke for all of you [14:44] like the fortune500 company admin who typed his companies root pass into irc? heh [14:45] who? [14:45] phrag, or someone pasting his gpg into a public changelog [14:45] was he fired? [14:45] some guy was on about it in here... i didn't winess it.. apparently he kept his job [14:45] witness* [14:45] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [14:46] try explaining that one to the top brass =P [14:47] eh, new entry in linux hater blog [14:48] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn172.91-127-190.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [14:49] slackytude, ?? [14:49] di3d (n=di3d@unaffiliated/di3d) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:49] Sirus_ (n=Fusion_@82-37-17-103.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:50] nachox, http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/ [14:50] npad (n=nick@69.17.57.162) left irc: "Read error: 1 + 9 = -1 (Connection reset by third grade math)" [14:51] http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/ [14:51] http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=528 ..sorry [14:53] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:54] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.59.34.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:54] slackytude, it's priceless, hahaha [14:54] nachox, its ok [14:54] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] nachox, he has some good points once in a while [14:55] slava_dp, y0 [14:55] slackytude, hey :) [14:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [14:57] phrag, not entirely unviased, is it? :P [14:57] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:57] success [14:58] I remember a time in this country that getting a refund for anything was like trying to bleed a stone [14:58] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-166-246.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] nachox: something to show the boss perhaps when arguing a case =) [14:59] phrag, i'd be arguing in favor of solaris :P [14:59] slowlaris! [14:59] wow there's a lot of suck on the linux haters blog [14:59] replying seems a waste of time [15:00] noobish, yeah, the dark side is strong there [15:00] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] straterra, i will only say this: you use gentoo, end of argument [15:00] its quite ironic since the blogspot server is running linux [15:01] What's wrong with using Gentoo? [15:01] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [15:02] plenty... [15:02] lol [15:02] Necos: ++ [15:02] :D [15:03] hnnng [15:03] MS now on 99% of all netbooks [15:03] if i wanted to have an unusable system, i can easily run fedora ^_^ [15:03] haha [15:03] stupid webdevelopers.. can't they learn procedures [15:03] making me have to work late [15:03] and if you're going to try Gentoo, just use FreeBSD [15:04] slackytude: I highly doubt that. [15:04] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.151) joined ##slackware. [15:04] http://www.osnews.com/story/21269/Microsoft_Boasts_Windows_Netbook_Success [15:04] I already see a few failures here [15:04] valvola (n=fabiovio@host159-255-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:04] omfg... the guy on techrepublic compares windows 7 to fedora 11... he just lost all his credibility [15:04] 1) Microsoft claims that MS Windows is on 99% of netbooks? Sounds like they're trying to pump up their stock price [15:05] and 2) osnews.com? That site is piles of fail. [15:05] valvola (n=fabiovio@host159-255-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] yeah, gentoo is ports done wrong lol [15:05] i thought alot of netbooks come pre-installed with some linux dist? :O [15:05] not all of them [15:05] no but a few of them at least [15:05] which is nice [15:05] yeah, i think it's ubuntu or fedora pre-installed [15:06] i think you can get the asus eeepc with linux pre-installed? [15:06] Necos: xandros [15:06] oh, really? [15:06] eviljames, havent seen hard numbers but XP on netbooks gained a lot of momentum [15:06] iirc one of my collageu was all hyped about the eeepc "yeah i bought it for my wife, its a fucken sweet little laptop, got linux and everything, blazing fast, stable and all" [15:06] netbooks or notebooks? [15:06] and all that stuff.. [15:06] he's a sales guy so.. he knows the right words to say :P [15:07] eviljames, it will be interesting to see what happens if ARM devices hit the market [15:07] maxote, netbooks [15:07] what's the difference? [15:07] it is better to take a notebook with no os preinstalled [15:07] Phoul (n=Not@sourcemage/guru/Phoul) left irc: [15:07] maxote, are you from the past? [15:07] yes [15:07] arent we all? [15:07] :D [15:07] Action: poona committed a mistake when he purchased a notebook [15:08] maxote, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook [15:08] thks [15:08] is there any difference in between a notebook and a laptop? i thought it was the same stuff [15:08] or is it just like, the formfactor [15:08] I believe it is more of a fancy term to refer to a sleeker version of a laptop [15:09] ah [15:09] gotcha [15:09] Netbook.. bah [15:09] yeah i recently bought a 13 inch dell laptop [15:09] its basically an eeePC [15:09] very nice [15:09] and the next, eyebook? [15:09] Linus (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.145) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:09] earbook [15:09] my alienware looks like a Cray compared to those netbooks [15:09] pfft [15:09] alienware [15:09] hehe [15:10] dude my laptop has leather finish [15:10] and aluminum alloy [15:10] its pimpin [15:10] :D [15:10] all these terms is more of a marketing gimmick [15:10] tru [15:10] *are more of a [15:10] how is 'sudo -i' different from 'su'? [15:10] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:10] the netbook, has the standard RS-232 port? [15:10] it still applies to the rules of sudo? [15:10] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:11] Wittic: su is used to switch user, sudo is used to execute programs with root priveliges [15:11] without RS-232, it's useless [15:11] oh well i dont need a netbook anyway.. [15:11] netbooks are nifty [15:11] no replacement for a "real" machine, tho [15:11] maxote: it's getting hard to find anything new that has real serial ports [15:11] nope [15:12] (morning slackers) [15:12] nothing like your own desktop [15:12] but for like mobile surfing and minor stuff its nice [15:12] but i use my mobile for that [15:12] argh, anyone know how to screen-capture with mplayer and X11 ? [15:12] Urchlay: yeah, and that sucks... especially when you work with switches and routers (cisco, in particular) [15:12] bit of a pain to word process on I would think [15:12] yeah [15:12] vim [15:12] USB rs232 adaptors generally suck, too [15:12] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-166-246.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:13] too slow :( [15:13] what is a real pain is having xp on a 10 inch [15:13] Urchlay, a normal PC had 2 serial ports, COM1 and COM2, nowadays, there are not laptops with at atleast COM1. [15:13] anyone uses a lcd screen apart from the laptop lcd [15:13] dive: yeah i dont do word processing on my mobile either, even though i got ms word on it :P [15:13] it came pre-installed [15:13] as in use both together simultaneously [15:13] dell 630 comes with a docking station [15:13] gad [15:13] Action: antler still uses a daytimer :D [15:14] i has a d630 in his lap [15:14] my* [15:14] v4nelle (n=van@adsl96-127.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:14] tewmten: now? you have a docking station too? [15:14] poona: no docking station [15:14] antler, me too ^-^ [15:14] i wish my work would get me one to have in the office though [15:14] tewmten: oh. maybe you should get one. it is amazing. improves productivity if you are doing a lot of things and you want to see all the screens at once [15:15] but with the recession we have put a lid on spending [15:15] especially useful if you are running multiple oses [15:15] the dell 630s are awesome [15:15] poona: yeah [15:15] i have a linux desktop on my office with nice widescreen monitor [15:15] rs232 and parallel ports are so much easier to deal with too, if you're doing any kind of electronics of your own (e.g. solder together a cable to use an old Atari joystick on a PC. If you have parallel port, it's dead simple. If it has to be USB you pretty much need a microcontroller and have to be able to etch your own PCB) [15:15] so i put my laptop next to it [15:15] we just got some HP 6730Bs in yesterday... very nice, but damn heavy [15:15] share the keyboard and mouse using synergy [15:15] kama (n=kama@87.19.115.142) joined ##slackware. [15:15] im productive like a mofo! :D [15:15] Necos: yes. very stable unlike the 620s, except that the quality of the keyboard is pathetic [15:15] pathetic is an understatement infact [15:15] slackytude: :) [15:16] have you guys checked out synergy? awesome if you're using multiple computers and monitors [15:16] Urchlay: yeah man, simple is good :) [15:16] tewmten, I can haz links plz? [15:16] poona: yeah, we've had plenty of 620s die [15:16] try to get rid of the mouse. I just installed a firefox addon called mouseless firefox. amazing [15:16] slackytude: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ [15:16] the more you touch the mouse, the slower you get [15:17] kama (n=kama@87.19.115.142) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:17] poona: don't you know vimperator? [15:17] slackytude: it will share your mouse and keyboard between different computers, works on windows, linux and osx.. maybe bsd also im not sure [15:17] poona: mouseless firefox sounds sweet. You use something like ratpoison with it? [15:17] slackytude: agreed on ARM hitting the market [15:17] Necos: same here. lot of trouble with 620s [15:17] rg3: am a emacs user :) [15:17] tewmten, hrm [15:17] vimperator v2.0 brokes many extensions [15:17] rg3: tried firemacs but it isn't as good as the vim addon :) [15:17] tewmten, not sure if it is all that useful for me [15:17] slackytude: There was a time when I thought I would manufacture mini-laptops. It was about 2 years ago. Shortly afterwards the eee came to Canada, along with thousands of clones from major manufacturers. [15:18] poona: then try conkeror [15:18] slackytude: In short, I'd've been jumping into the market at the worst possible time ;) [15:18] eviljames, heh ^-^ [15:18] slackytude: no? well unless you have several computers and a monitor to each of them i dont think it is [15:18] but its cool stuff [15:18] tewmten, I have a dual monitor setup and like 4 rdesktops open at anytime [15:19] ah [15:19] that works quite well [15:19] Its especially nice with that expose function of compiz [15:20] Urchlay: haven't tried ratpoison. should try it [15:20] work in one rdp session, customer calles, mouse to top left corner, switch rdp session [15:20] *different [15:20] poona: I'm not an emacs user, but I'm told its keyboard stuff is emacs-like [15:20] slackytude: cool [15:21] tewmten, ^-^ [15:21] i never got compiz working that good, but i think it was because my old d620 laptop had pretty crappy gfx card [15:21] it couldnt do graphics properly [15:21] sux [15:21] yeah it was a shame [15:21] oh well [15:21] slackytude: Expo + Desktop Wall (no cube) = WIN [15:21] Urchlay: ah. which means i should try it. firemacs is quite good, but the vim addon looked a lot better for firefox. I might be wrong though. It is good to have emacs everywhere, right from my terminal readline to the browser bindings [15:21] slackytude: its quite ironic since the blogspot server is running linux <<<< that is hilarious [15:21] I have most of the ohter stuff diabled but expose is nice [15:22] noobish, yeah ^-^ [15:22] The cube is fine for showing friends "look what I can do!" but not anything else. [15:22] eviljames, aye [15:22] poona: can't you run firefox inside emacs? or browse the web with emacs? [15:22] emacs has a browser (it has everything else), but AFAIK it's not all that functional [15:23] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host239-235-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:23] eviljames, of course, that does count for something. its not good for productive work but the fact that you can go to *blink* mode via a mouse click is impressive [15:23] rg3: haven't tried that. didn't bother looking at that. too used to firefox and some things are best left as it is. [15:23] what a half-baked operating system is emacs then =) [15:23] hehe [15:23] lol [15:23] operating system it is [15:23] eviljames, hrm, whats desktop wall again? [15:24] heh. You could spawn emacs from your inittab... [15:25] Urchlay, O_o [15:25] slackytude: It lays your desktops out as though they were pressed against a wall, instaed of on the faces of a cube [15:25] slackytude: Then ctrl-alt-arrowkeys let you pan around the wall moving from desktop to desktop [15:25] eviljames, hmm, gonna check it out in the morning [15:25] I'm trying to compile MPD 0.14.1 and ld is complaining "cannot find -lnut". Google returns nothing for that string, can anyone help? [15:26] slackytude: I use that w/ expo and it seems to work well [15:26] 0.14.2* [15:26] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] kamaji, pastebin? [15:26] slackytude: of the whole build output? [15:27] kamaji, when the error start [15:27] ok [15:27] it's one line: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.2.4/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lnut [15:27] libpeanut ! :D [15:28] argh [15:28] oh, you were kidding :P [15:28] CyberOwl (n=olivier@85-218-16-181.dclient.lsne.ch) joined ##slackware. [15:28] kamaji, you need libnut, don't know what it is though :) [15:28] yeah, was kidding ;p [15:30] Srbo (n=daniel@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:30] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] kick you in the libnuts! [15:30] lol [15:30] apparently it's somethign to do with ffmpeg [15:30] thought mpd didn't have a bunch of dependencies, hmm... [15:30] it's in the "FFMPEG_LIBS" var in the makefile [15:31] Urchlay: that's what I thought [15:31] mpd doesn't require much, but can use alot [15:31] building this from SBo slackbuild? [15:31] Oh crap I forgot my salad into the room temperature for 4 hours. Should I eat it? [15:31] oculus_: it won't hurt you, but the lettuce might be mushy [15:31] Urchlay: no from last source release [15:32] CyberOwl (n=olivier@85-218-16-181.dclient.lsne.ch) left irc: Client Quit [15:32] Its awwright, if it doesnt infect me :) [15:32] CyberOwl (n=olivier@85-218-16-181.dclient.lsne.ch) joined ##slackware. [15:33] I'm just going to take -lnut out of the makefile and see what happens, har har [15:34] SM177Y (n=sm177y@rvr32nbar150.nmu.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:34] :\ [15:35] Hi, just thought about it... I have 1 computer and 1 laptop with a docking station. Can I use the laptop to use the computer over ethernet and the laptop with easy switching between the two computers.. .so i just use 1 keyboard + mouse+ montor... i know there are hardware things to do that, but just wondered if it is possible and not stupid to do it this way...? [15:35] CyberOwl (n=olivier@85-218-16-181.dclient.lsne.ch) left irc: Client Quit [15:35] i hope somebody can understand what i meant :P [15:36] Srbo: have you tried vnc? [15:36] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-154-107-112.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:36] isnt that a little bit slow? used that on windows at work and it's sucking... but that may be because the configuration is not that ideal :D [15:37] Depends on your config [15:37] its for everyday use... a use the laptop and the computer all the day [15:37] Srbo, tewtem just gave me a link for that [15:37] http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ [15:38] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [15:38] Can't you just send X events from the laptop to the PC? [15:38] aah, i thought i saw something like that but couldn't remember :) thanks slackytude [15:38] ^-^ [15:38] ssh [15:38] kamaji: ssh + X [15:38] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't have libnut [15:38] kamaji, maybe i can, but i don't know what the "best" (everyday usable) method is [15:39] yep all included if you set it right [15:39] ok, so i will have a look on x + ssh and on synergy... thanks for that :) [15:39] Camarade_Tux: have you tried compiling mpd? [15:39] <3 ssh [15:40] slackytude: ssh -X -Y <3 [15:40] eviljames, why -X and -Y? [15:40] tbh, I can't remember why I started using both [15:40] heh [15:40] heh [15:40] ssh -D <3 [15:41] -Y is something to do with security [15:41] dive: It removes some access restrictions on the X protocol [15:41] at least according to the man page :D [15:42] I thought it was something like that [15:42] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:42] Yea, but I don't care too much, it's so that I can run (for example) pgadmin on my server but have the window be routed to the laptop [15:42] All on a local network, so permission is pretty loose anyway ;) [15:43] I've only played around with it a bit [15:43] ssh -X saved my ass last semester as I could work remotly on that goddamnd CASE tool they have at uni [15:43] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [15:43] use ssh all the time but now I've got used to cli progs [15:43] kamaji, no [15:43] ok [15:45] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:45] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.180.131) joined ##slackware. [15:45] I think I've just invented a job for myself - led upgrader - takes all the red and green leds and replaces with blue ones [15:45] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:45] since red and green are so 1990s [15:46] eh [15:46] blue is where it's at [15:46] I ask myself, what is next! Turquoise leds? This must be stopped! [15:47] nyao~~ [15:47] Ok, MPD fixed [15:47] ./configure --disable-ffmpeg [15:47] well now that blue is available it's theoretically possible to make any colour [15:47] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [15:47] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] but manufacturers are slow to catch on to more colours it seems [15:48] Can you get tri-color LEDs? [15:48] I know you can get red and yellow ones [15:49] oh you can :D [15:49] if you put red, blue and green next to each other anything is possible [15:49] yellow = red next to green [15:49] I want an LED screen [15:49] heheh [15:50] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [15:50] designer leds would be good - choose your own colour [15:51] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:51] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.93.238) joined ##slackware. [15:51] dive: isn't that just like selling a ruined tri-color led? [15:51] :]\ [15:52] ruined? [15:53] That reminds me - I have a bricked dvd writer and wondering about making something dangerous :> [15:53] but I'd probably blind myself [15:53] lol, those leds are pretty cool [15:53] I suggest you do it [15:53] they're usually infra-red though aren't they? [15:54] maybe you could shine it at those police helicopters with infrared cameras [15:54] heheh [15:54] light-bright monitor [15:54] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [15:55] gamma ray led ftw [15:55] yeah and have swat come after me... ;p [15:55] is it illegal to shine infra-red at helicopters? :P [15:55] oh it is [15:55] goddamnit [15:55] dunno but some asshole blinded one of my co-workers with a astronomy laser [15:55] oh no! no it isn't :D [15:55] we were flying [15:56] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [15:56] noobish: an astronomy laser? [15:56] yeah geen laser [15:56] What's its application? [15:56] the ones that help the telescopes adjust for atmospheric distortion [15:56] oh ok [15:56] blowing up planets? [15:56] oh [15:56] Yeah it's just illegal to use visible light on aircraft [15:56] slackytude: lol [15:56] yeah the same type comes out of the deathstar [15:56] right [15:56] IR isn't visible to the human eye.. [15:57] so can't you shine that at stuff? [15:57] straterra: that's what i'm sayin' [15:57] why not [15:57] IR is harmless [15:57] harmless? [15:57] oh goddamnit, no it includes IR in the law anyway [15:57] depends on how much IR radiation [15:57] it can still ruin your eyes [15:57] well in aviation, i mean, a lot of planes are sending out IR anyway [15:57] onto the public, so [15:57] noobish: but presumably not as a laser into peoples eyes? [15:57] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host239-235-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:57] ya kamaji [15:58] noobish: what were you flying, anyway? [15:58] mc-130 [15:58] i just thought of a good one - big red HAL9000 led/lens that flashes with my flite email messages [15:58] it was comical at first. the conversation went something like this "Nobody look out the right side, I just caught a laser out of the corner of my eye" [15:58] put it on laptop lid [> [15:59] then my friend says "Where?" and stares out directly into the beam [15:59] hi Dave, you have new mail [15:59] noobish: facepalm [15:59] "Ahh i'm blind... lol" [15:59] What, actually 'damaged eyes' blind? [15:59] after 6 months he's just about fully recovered [15:59] shit :\ [15:59] yeah as in he was totally blind for more than 2 months [16:00] i dunno how that 'recovered' [16:00] FYI, those following my "leechers will die" campaign.. I just switched the image from lemonparty... to tubgirl [16:00] \o/ tubgirl [16:00] although I need to have the custom text added still [16:00] Action: kamaji glees [16:00] dude, that's disgusting [16:00] Urchlay: hehe [16:00] http://www.myspace.com/ROCXSTARTHU6 [16:00] Action: kamaji notes that "glee" can now be used as a verb [16:00] NSF! [16:00] I warn you again that is NSFW! [16:00] effective I bet, but still disgusting [16:01] Urchlay: Lemonparty was effective.. that just adds to the humliation [16:01] The moldymen are much much worse Dominian [16:01] alienBOB: Oh I dunno.. look at that site alienBOB [16:01] alienBOB: you may change your tune [16:01] it's not safe for work, home, or anywhere else, except maybe a school for the blind [16:01] Dominian, you are a cruel man [16:01] alienBOB: the image tiles the entire background [16:01] Urchlay: haha [16:01] slackytude: Yes.. Yes I am, but leeching my bandwidth is cruel.. so I'll show what I want them to see :P [16:01] You Dont Mess with The Dominian [16:01] lol [16:02] ^-^ [16:02] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] kamaji: you still having trouble with mpd? try the slackbuild from slackbuilds.org [16:02] hehe [16:02] The moldymen web site starts this very recognizable tune (recognizable for all whi went there) so it is very hilarious if suddenly that tune sounds further down the office... [16:02] (too lazy to read the log, maybe that's redundant) [16:02] export PS1='C:${PWD//\//\\\}>' [16:03] alienBOB: actually.. I'm swtiching it back to moldymen hehe [16:03] Urchlay: nah, I got it [16:03] Urchlay: I just did --disable-ffmpeg in the configure file [16:03] problems gone [16:03] Anyway... anyone having problems with KDE 4 menus being empty? If so, do you have nvidia hardware? [16:03] annnnd done [16:03] Dominian: you ought to have it randomly select between 3 or 4 of those sites [16:03] alienBOB: do not have that issue myself [16:03] Urchlay: I've thought about that, but that would probably take a script [16:04] so if someone links to 4 of your images, they might get all 4, for a more festive atmosphere... [16:04] sure it would, but it'd be worth it :) [16:04] so the end of the story about the geen laser, is that the local police set up a sting op to catch him the next time he lazes an aircraft, and they got him [16:04] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [16:04] Urchlay: well, the htaccess asys "if ANYONE links to my images.. show lemonparty" [16:04] turns out he had some mental issues. But he had been lazing planes for over a year [16:04] noobish: where was this? and why were you flying an MC-130? military? [16:05] noobish, trying to fight off the alien invasion? [16:05] yes military, san jose, ca [16:05] he drew the short straw [16:05] maybe he hates planes. [16:05] laze, as a verb, I use that to mean "be lazy"... Lazing around the house [16:05] to laze: See Urchlay [16:05] it's "lase" to use a laser :3 [16:05] it's the first time i've typed it [16:05] lase then [16:05] yep, there's a picture of me passed out on the couch with a bottle in hand, next to the definition :) [16:06] I like lasing around the house. [16:06] hehe i see the important distinction now [16:06] my furniture is in pretty bad shape [16:06] kamaji: it drives dogs & cats crazy [16:06] =D [16:06] Action: slava_dp is refreshing the ChangeLog waiting for KDE 4.2.2 to appear there........ [16:06] Urchlay: so true [16:06] I wish I had a laser pointer here, I wanna play with my cats now [16:06] slava_dp: so...on [16:06] point laser pointer at wall, wiggle wrist, watch ensuing hilarity [16:06] they totally flip out [16:06] kittens are the best [16:07] mom's cat, poor critter, about went insane when I went over there & used a laser level [16:07] Urchlay: Hrm.. I could use an image rotation php script to rotate between images.. since it returns an image.. I think I can use it as the "redirect" n the htaccess file [16:07] heheheh [16:07] putting scotch tape on the pads of all four cat feet also ensures a good time [16:07] noobish: what does that do? [16:07] noobish: it might ensure you get your veins clawed open... [16:07] Dominian: sounds like it would work [16:07] no way urchlay [16:07] noobish, not a nice thing todo [16:07] Urchlay: Looking into it now [16:08] Dominian, cron job? [16:08] slackytude: nope [16:08] they are too concerned with trying to run away while at the same time wondering why the ground doesn't feel right [16:08] so they end up doing this furious scamper [16:08] yeah, but the 2nd time you try to do that to the same cat, he'll remember [16:08] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "good night all" [16:08] it's hilarious, and sad... [16:08] well I was looking for videos of it [16:08] and I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyAIW-h2xwE [16:08] hooray! [16:08] i think this is totally my invention [16:08] oh damn [16:09] foot in mouth [16:09] doing that is considered cruel around here [16:09] yep a cat with head stuck in a bag or other vessel puts them in reverse around the room hugging the walls [16:09] i think it's cruel anywhere [16:09] slackytude: it is. And the cat will take his revenge later, too [16:09] Urchlay: you somewhere you can test it? hehehe [16:09] Well i have experience there urchlay [16:10] and they don't, so long as you wait like a month between application [16:10] Dominian: ugh, yes, but I dunno that I want to [16:10] hehe [16:10] but i've only done it twice since i felt so bad [16:10] http://www.myspace.com/ROCXSTARTHU6 [16:10] refresh that see what comes up.. only two images in the rotation for now [16:10] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.59.34.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:10] does the PHP script return a redirect to whichever image, or does it spit out the image on its stdout? [16:11] the script does nothing, it's htaccess right? [16:11] since he will have the image in a tag,all you can do is change the image the url is pointing too [16:11] I can't look at that [16:11] hence, the php script will rename the images [16:11] Urchlay: what came up? [16:11] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [16:12] export PS1='C:${PWD//\//\\\}>' <<< try this out, its fun [16:12] Dominian: vomit [16:12] I couldn't look at it for long, refreshed it once and the background didn't change [16:12] Urchlay: did it switch the images!? [16:12] Dominian, you need to call the php script [16:13] apparently not [16:13] can you just give me the URL of the PHP script? I'll wget it a few times and cmp the results [16:13] SM177Y (n=sm177y@rvr32nbar150.nmu.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] slackytude: I did [16:13] oh, alrighty then [16:13] http://slackadelic.com/images/rotate.php [16:14] Dominian, it changes for me [16:14] OK, 3 wgets, the first 2 are 37521 bytes and the 3rd was 44417 [16:14] just not everytime [16:14] Action: slackytude nods [16:15] heh [16:15] I need more pictures [16:15] troll 4chan [16:15] you may want to add to the PHP script at the top: header("Content-type: image/jpeg"); [16:15] that's where tubgirl comes from [16:15] already on it [16:15] I like the picture of Fry saying "Not sure if want", but I have yet to find a good place to place the picture [16:16] try now [16:16] yes, image/jpeg [16:16] I guess you could just have the script grab random images from one of those internets [16:17] makerc (i=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [16:17] dominian, is there some reason why you are not using htaccess for this? It would seem simple to me [16:18] slackytude: yes but there are some nice pictures even there, so it defeats the purpose [16:19] noobish: it is htaccess [16:19] ah [16:19] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [16:19] i saw the redirect.php and figured [16:20] slackytude, now i saw that synergy is just for mouse and keyboard... doesn't affect the screen :( do you know any program for doing the same nice thing but also switching the desktop so i can use with one monitor also? [16:20] noobish: Well, sometimes you can referece .php if it tells things its jpeg etc [16:20] but you can't rotate images in .htaccess that I know of [16:20] i think i should try with ssh [16:20] skapazzo (n=skapazzo@151.9.96.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:20] Srbo, ssh, vnc, noxmachine [16:21] err,nx [16:21] i was thinking about that, rotation... myabe with mode_rewrite? [16:21] or load_balancing [16:21] definitely not ideal [16:21] ok... i'll try ssh... thanks again ;) [16:22] realvnc? [16:23] nomachine is the best [16:23] altho ssh is good enough for lan [16:23] haven't tried that [16:24] wow nice, it does sound too [16:25] noobish: I'm already using mod_rewrite... [16:26] I don't think mod_rewrite has the ability to "rotate" through a list of images [16:26] yes perhaps not [16:26] well, I guess you could rotate your .htaccess [16:27] serve a dynamic htaccess? [16:27] prolly better to just do the whole thing in php [16:27] hah [16:27] it was a joke [16:27] nah.. I"m not going to worry about it [16:27] lemonparty works just fine for the gross effect I'm going for [16:28] it's a novel idea... if I cared more i might do it [16:28] heh [16:28] It would definitely be an interesting endeavor [16:29] have half the leechers going "thats not the image I linked to!" [16:29] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.2.7-dev" [16:29] I just SAW it on that site! wtf!? [16:29] it's still fecking disgusting [16:29] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-2-140.50-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [16:30] heh [16:30] Action: DeeeeP GOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [16:30] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [16:30] Channel flood from DeeeeP -- kicking [16:30] Action: DeeeeP GOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [16:30] DeeeeP kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:30] dumbass [16:30] Urchlay: that's kind of the point with it being disgusting [16:30] Action: slava_dp woke up [16:30] I remember sitting in a meeting, new boss is haranguing us at length about how "there are going to be some changes around here", and a guy in the back of the room brought up the goatse.cx image [16:30] He's been banned for that shit before [16:31] Urchlay: hahahah while the guy was talking? [16:31] boss stops talking, turns an impressive shade of purple, gurgles a bit... [16:31] haha [16:31] haha [16:31] Dominian: I like that you chose lemonparty. It makes you a little more heroic in my eyes. [16:31] then he cracks up laughing [16:31] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:31] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: "01001110 01100101 01110010 01100100 00100001" [16:32] which is good, we thought we was going to have a heart attack or fire us all on the spot [16:32] lol [16:32] Urchlay: I would've. [16:32] you guys are still talking about lemonparty?!? [16:32] you are all sick [16:32] Fired you, that is. Not heart attack. [16:32] what, had a heart attack, or fired us all? [16:32] edman007: come and touch my lemonparty? [16:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:32] fired me? I had nothing to do with it [16:32] lemonparty++ [16:32] eviljames has the internal eye [16:33] Action: edman007 slaps eviljames [16:33] I remember a time when phrag would ban just for the mere mention of lemonparty [16:33] Action: noobish also slaps eviljames for not having a sense of humor [16:33] Urchlay: I just have this obsession with Donald Trump's hair. I hope some day to fire someone in such a glorious manner as his hair manages to do weekly. [16:33] in fact the guy who did it claimed he didn't mean to (he was guilty only of reading slashdot during a meeting, he swears he didn't know the link would go there...) [16:34] wtf [16:34] ALL links on slashdot lead to goatse [16:34] they always have [16:34] well, this guy didn't know that yet (new /. reader I guess) [16:34] he wasn't what you'd call clever, I believed him [16:34] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] eviljames: lol [16:35] straterra: hey.. the fact alienBOB made a comment between tubgirl and lemonparty.. shows you how much has changed ;) [16:36] I guess [16:36] Urchlay: there was one article on slashdot that did that.. it was a prank [16:36] dunno how it ever made it to the front page [16:36] the url used in the article was a tinyurl [16:36] this conversation gets my stamp of approval, since it's about configuring apache to server lemonparty to imagelinkfags [16:36] hehe [16:36] *to serve [16:36] we aim to please [16:37] telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl [16:37] doh [16:38] try it. :) [16:38] Wittic: this better not harm me in anyway :P [16:38] it won't. :) [16:38] just says "bad port" [16:38] that's it [16:38] dominian: or else what [16:38] noobish: Or else I bring acidchild in [16:39] oo what does he do? I'm noobish. enlighten me [16:39] ip ban? [16:39] Wittic: doh my bad [16:39] noobish: er.. no :) [16:39] cfdisk (n=cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [16:39] moar devious [16:39] Wittic: hahahahaha thats great [16:39] wtf that's tv. i love it. [16:39] starw ars in ascii! [16:39] i enjoy the starwars in gif [16:40] Mine is color, fools [16:40] has the ascii starwars changed at all in the past few years? [16:41] Wittic, how do you do that? [16:41] I won't lie to you [16:41] majik [16:42] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:42] have you any pr0n in ascii? [16:42] heh [16:43] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.16.25) joined ##slackware. [16:43] ahh wait [16:43] I've seen that before.. damn that's been around since what.. 2000? [16:43] slava_dp, on a more serious note, yes -- there are many fancy avi/*mpeg2ascii converters nowadays floating all around [16:43] longer [16:44] ffmpeg, mplayer, vlc [16:44] nice video, sound is crap, tho [16:44] man I haven't seen that in a while.. it took me a bit of brain searching to realize I recognized that telnet address [16:44] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.16.25) left irc: Client Quit [16:44] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] lol how do i exit the telnet session? [16:45] hi, i'm use icewm in slackware12.2 with fauxglass theme. But firefox widgets not compatible with icewm theme. Can i fix it? [16:45] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Success [16:45] slava_dp, ctrl + [ or ctrl + c [16:45] er, ]* [16:45] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: "Leaving" [16:46] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Connection timed out [16:46] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:47] still can't figure out how to exit. those combinations do not work. [16:47] just prints ^C or ^[ [16:47] oh [16:47] i see [16:48] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-2-140.50-151.net24.it) left irc: "Leaving" [16:51] g4rion (n=garion@host24-115-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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Their support is non existant, and there's barely a spam filter. Worst possible place to do serious email. [17:07] slava_dp: thanks for answering, do you have a @linuxmail.org account? [17:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] p4nt3r4, no i don't. i do gmail. [17:08] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:08] someone who does? [17:09] ask in #linux? [17:09] eviljame1 (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [17:09] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-154-107-112.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] no one wants to talk to me [17:10] there at #linux [17:10] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:11] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:11] woa [17:11] Nick change: eviljame1 -> eviljames [17:11] am I the only one who uses linuxmail.org service? [17:11] possibly? what is it [17:12] the evidence so far seems to point into that direction :D [17:13] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:13] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] slava_dp: thank you and good bye [17:14] appears it's not the most popular e-mail provider in the world :) [17:14] p4nt3r4 (n=chatzill@186.2.43.168) left ##slackware. 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[17:30] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:30] if a package needs to be updated in slackware current tree, who do I tell? [17:31] Pat [17:32] email address is on the slackware.com site [17:32] well, typically "OMG $package is old" is not a good email [17:33] I would spam filter those. [17:33] It's like e-mailing and saying "OMG $package is stable, plz break" [17:33] k0pp__ (n=k4rr@c-75-70-139-235.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:34] omg [17:34] condom is stable [17:34] break pls [17:34] that's a relief [17:34] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-2db5eec81e86b317) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:35] Urchlay: can i get his attention at security[at]slackware dot com? [17:36] No [17:37] And "needs to be updated" according tho what? [17:37] i stopped petitioning pat about software updates [17:37] never did any good [17:37] straterra: that's what i was about to do :\ [17:38] alienBOB: i just noticed that eboard contains several bug fixes in the gnuchess package that's all [17:38] good luck with that [17:38] straterra: nahh i'm not gonna do it [17:38] i don't want to upset a dev aha [17:39] seedman: just build your own eboard/gnuchess package [17:39] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.26) left irc: [17:40] Pig_Pen: no problem [17:40] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-193-183-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] that sounds reasonable, personally [17:40] I had assumed you meant "kde 4.2.2 is out" or similar :) [17:41] hm. someone just came in here and asked me a stumper. WTF is the proper name for the line in a fraction? [17:41] numerator on top of the line, denominator on the bottom, WTF is the line called? [17:41] over? [17:41] heh [17:41] "solidus" [17:41] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7709E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] the answer turns out to be "vinculum" apparently [17:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:43] which sorta sounds like a name for a death metal band or something [17:43] it ought to be [17:43] I thought a solidus was a Roman coin... /me sucks at Latin anyway [17:43] seedman: you're going to be pleasantly surprised soon [17:43] or at least some part of the female genitalia of a plant [17:44] alienBOB: cool =) [17:44] yeah... like the word "plethora"... sounds like female anatomy to me [17:44] a plethora of plethora [17:44] Her plethora was so wet.. [17:45] straterra: exactly [17:45] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:45] I stroked her plethora softly, gently.. [17:45] o.O [17:45] yeah well we didn't want to actually put it so bluntly ;p [17:45] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:45] How about a wenis? [17:45] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] and she said 'never mind that, give me some vinculum' [17:46] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [17:47] bruc3 (n=rafael@189.56.20.108) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [17:47] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] rki (n=rki@unaffiliated/rki) joined ##slackware. [17:51] ...and then I said Get off me Grandma, I'm done. [17:51] hello. :D [17:52] Rumo (n=unkown@200227098166-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:52] oi hello there [17:52] oi 2 u 2 [17:52] =P [17:52] now i'm getting acidchild attention [17:52] this can't be good [17:53] :| [17:53] fu? [17:53] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420067.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:54] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:54] acidchild: http://pastebin.com/m6f20f770 [17:54] what is it? [17:55] convo earlier involving you [17:55] rofl [17:55] Camarade_Tux: you around? [17:55] why I said "this can't be good" [17:55] Action: acidchild is evil >:D [17:55] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:55] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [17:55] hello [17:56] Action: noobish is completely safe on this window box. No evil haxors can befall me. [17:56] HAI! [17:56] hi [17:56] P4C0: Hello. How are you? [17:56] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:56] firebird619: fine thanks, you? [17:56] Great, Thank you. [17:57] http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21730 [17:57] check these out! sure i could make something as good for much cheaper though [17:57] seedman (n=man@adsl-71-135-7-21.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:58] 15243.90213W ERP [17:58] on a 25W amp at 2.4Ghz [17:58] Action: acidchild defrosts frozen turkey with it [17:59] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] bijit (i=1000@201.195.91.149) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Rumo (n=unkown@200227098166-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br) left ##slackware. [18:00] i heard that the old directtv dishes were good for 2.4 band? [18:00] it doesn't matter what type of dish they are really, aslong as you calc the offset correctly [18:01] I have conf my box to have internet, and I have dhcpd to the same eth how can I make the people getting ip from dhcp get internet access? [18:01] bijit: wattehfook? [18:01] your broadcasting dhcp to the internet? [18:01] Hi all [18:02] if your server has dhcp, why would your network neighbors need dhcp from your server? [18:02] they should contact the dhcp provider directly [18:02] int eth0 = internet; eth1 = local [18:02] Action: nille_ claened my cpu fan today now my laptop is ok again :) [18:03] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [18:03] nille_: haha excellent, i remember removing what looked like a filter pad out of the back of my laptop about a year ago [18:03] it wasn't a filter pad, it was just alot of crap :| [18:03] nice [18:03] about 2.5CM thick of tobacco/weed and other nasty airborn particals. [18:03] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Action: dive needs to look at his one of these days [18:04] hehe, is your fan ALWAYS on? [18:04] =P [18:04] acidchild: eth0 eth0:1 eth0:1 dhcpd also [18:05] bet there's a plethora of viculum in it [18:05] bijit: okey, so whats your issue? [18:05] setup up NAT and get rollin' [18:05] lan ip can't browse.. [18:05] well mine looked ok from the outside but when i used airpressure (or what it's called) i saw that it was clogged with dirt [18:05] staff@brouter:~$ wc -l < /etc/dhcpd.conf [18:05] 518 [18:05] lol! :D [18:06] bijit: did you setup NAT and ipforwarding? [18:06] acidchild: nope :( [18:06] bijit: google 'Linux NAT' [18:06] =) [18:06] and the paste on the cpu was dry and not on all the contakt plate of the faan [18:06] gross. [18:06] :P [18:06] nope not under 41C [18:06] bleah, tobacco gunk is the bane of fans [18:06] ahaha mine was at 90c once all day [18:07] before i cleaned it. [18:07] love to smoke, hate to clean that crap up though [18:07] Urchlay: quitting may 1st =/ [18:07] mine restarted at 90C :( before i cleaned it [18:07] cigs that is, weed is a life long hobbie. [18:07] hope it works for you [18:07] 90c huh [18:07] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [18:07] most impressive [18:07] Urchlay: moving to a new place, where i wont let myself smoke. [18:07] well, you probly won't smoke 20 joints a day, so it won't murder your lungs so much [18:08] yep [18:08] well .5g to help me sleep at night :-) [18:08] is that a P4 laptop proc? [18:08] thats all. [18:08] .5g would be what, enough for a medium-sized joint? [18:08] Action: Urchlay no hablo metric :) [18:08] yep :) [18:08] .5 is a good pure joint :-) [18:09] or about 3 bong bowls. [18:09] nope T2400 on an lenovo t60 [18:09] I mean if I see a bag o' weed I can estimate "1/4 oz" or "1 oz", but converting to grams requires memory and thought [18:09] g4rion (n=garion@host24-115-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] acidchild that sounds like what i need right now :p [18:09] 3.5 = 1/8; 7 = 1/4; 14 = 1/2; 28 = 1 [18:09] noobish (i=noobish@12.170.31.226) left irc: [18:09] can you guess what my old career was?! :D [18:09] ban the gramme [18:09] or gram even [18:10] yeah, but I'll never remember that, especially if I've already smoked some... [18:10] 16oz = 1LB [18:11] alienBOB did you see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/problem-using-alien-bobs-vlc-build.-717320 ? doesn't the configure log look strange? [18:11] 4oz = QP =P [18:11] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.151) left irc: "I'll Be Back!!" [18:11] Urchlay: how are you today? [18:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [18:11] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-140-103.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [18:11] slowly coming to life, on 4th cup of coffee [18:11] cheese royal (because of the meter system) :p [18:11] finally done moving [18:11] i've not had any coffee today at all :-( [18:11] ouch [18:12] no coffee... [18:12] i should sort that out, but god damn its started snowing again. [18:12] been snowing the last 2days =( [18:12] it snowed here last night, but wasn't cold enough on the ground [18:12] where are you? [18:12] haha no snow here now :) [18:12] am in the sticks outside of Atlanta [18:12] aah [18:12] Feels Like: -8 [18:12] I have configured sendmail as my own personal mail server, I need to send outgoing mail as one of the existing aliases in /etc/mail/aliases, is that possible? [18:12] c [18:12] dissociative: sure, #sendmail or google [18:12] sendmail is a nasty topic :P [18:13] Does slackware come with Boost? [18:13] :/ [18:13] kamaji: i dunno, i know for sure its in slackbuild. [18:13] I seem to have multiple copies on system :\ [18:13] kamaji: It doesnt [18:13] kamaji: no, but slackbuilds.org has it, and so does errr, someone else (alienbob?) [18:13] dissociative, -f flag? [18:13] kamaji: just find something else to do for a couple hours while it compiles [18:13] Floops[w] (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:13] Action: acidchild changed his pager for manual files to 'more' [18:13] Floops[w] (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] sendmail -fbla@bla.com ... [18:13] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left ##slackware. [18:13] man they look so pretty [18:13] I only have using pine from sending and receiving mail anyway [18:13] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host210-197-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "bye" [18:13] Urchlay: I might go with a slapt-get package :P [18:14] what the hell is Boost? [18:14] my house is already warm, and I have a pentium 4 [18:14] Necos: it's like additional libraries for C++ [18:14] dissociative, but you will need you user in trusted-users or you will get X-Athentication warnings in headers [18:14] Necos: high-level object-oriented C++ library, which may possibly become part of the standard C++ library in the future [18:14] Urchlay: some of it definitely will [18:15] kamaji nope boost was removed before the release of 12.2 [18:15] I think there's a bunch in TR1 and even more in T2 [18:15] good, then I can just install gcc/g++ and forget about having to compile it again [18:15] TR2* [18:15] hmmmm [18:15] heh, yeah [18:15] that's my least favorite thing about g++ (that and the uber-verbose 3 screens' worth of errors caused by one character of typo) [18:16] yeah, from wiki: "Much of [the TR1 standard] is available from Boost" [18:16] oh god, I hate that [18:16] er, compilation speed I mean, is the least favorite thing [18:16] kamaji http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/development/boost/ [18:16] first time I tried doing C++ from C I was like "wat." [18:16] Urchlay: love it :P [18:16] C++ is strict. [18:16] =] [18:16] use strict; pwnz [18:16] nille_: i'm gonna go with the binary distro I think [18:16] strict is fine (I use -Wall -ansi -pedantic for all my C code, and "use strict" for perl code) [18:16] ok [18:16] nille_: i'm trying archlinux atm. [18:16] acidchild: the fact that a language has that as an option sucks :P [18:17] but 3,000 lines of error messages makes it sorta hard to figure out where the actual typo wa [18:17] was [18:17] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-166-246.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl4-167-239.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:17] arch? when trhere is slackware :p [18:17] you said you wanted a binary distro? [18:17] Action: acidchild has been using slackware since he was 12yrs old [18:17] :> [18:18] acidchild: it was me who said I wanted a binary distro :P [18:18] oh [18:18] ok w/e! [18:18] heh [18:18] =P [18:18] and I meant of boost anyway [18:18] kamaji: just use sbopkg :-) [18:18] no i didn't kamaji said he was going to use binary boost [18:19] kamaji: the ability to write perl code without 'use strict' makes it handy for one-liners from the shell (as a replacement for grep/sed/awk combos) [18:19] Urchlay: I take it back :P [18:19] sbopkg rocks, thanks _chess_ [18:19] though I wish perl defaulted to always enabling strict mode when running a script file rather than a one-liner on the command line [18:19] that might get confusing [18:20] Urchlay: well, sometimes i don't want to my or our every var [18:20] especially for newbies [18:20] =) [18:20] nille_: strange build errors in that LQ thread, but he posts way too little info [18:20] like there aren't already a ton of confusing constructs in perl? :) [18:20] perl is kewl ;x [18:20] holy cocks that's cool [18:20] (I love perl, but it's definitely not a good "intro to programming" language) [18:20] (sbopkg) [18:20] haha. [18:20] Urchlay: first language for me after 'bash' [18:20] =) [18:21] ewwwwwww [18:21] my first language was C, hurrah :P [18:21] acidchild: bash is even worse as a first language [18:21] yep [18:21] yes but the configure log looks strange and some gcc checks looks wierd [18:21] oh no I lie, it was VB6.... hmm :\ [18:21] kamaji: shush. [18:21] -12 leet points for you sir! [18:21] I'd repressed the memories [18:21] ;_; [18:21] weird crap like... "FOO=bar" may NOT be written with spaces around the = sign, but "if [ $FOO = bar ]" *must* be written with spaces... [18:21] Action: kamaji rocks gently in a corner [18:21] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Urchlay: and you like massive long no-white space coding? [18:22] :| [18:22] no, I like being able to go 'FOO = bar' with the spaces [18:22] arrays in bash are fun :/ [18:22] dont forget qbasic [18:22] Floops (n=baihu@bankii.ax.lt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:22] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:22] msdos! [18:23] spaces should be used to, well, space things out... not be an integral part of the syntax [18:23] NP: NoFX - Please Stop Fucking My Mom [18:23] yeah that is strange [18:23] rofll [18:23] Floops (n=baihu@bankii.ax.lt) joined ##slackware. [18:23] (specially not on this keyboard I'm using, where the space bar has started spitting out double spaces) [18:23] nofx rulez :) [18:23] Action: acidchild head bangs [18:23] my first language was commodore basic then assembler (but that was so long ago that i don't remeber the language) [18:24] I will admit I write 'foo(bar);' and not 'foo (bar);' in C [18:24] i only just started programming about 4months ago [18:24] now i've landed myself a military development project! [18:24] LOL! [18:24] uh oh [18:24] goodbye world [18:24] nille_: I was in the enemy camp back then (Atari 800 and 800XL, BASIC and then assembly) [18:24] hahaha [18:24] dive: its mainly networking ;) [18:25] based on NetBSD. [18:25] why? [18:25] vic 20 [18:25] got a vic-20 in storage, AFAIK it works [18:25] <_chess_> nille_: thanks :-) [18:25] TRS80 with extended color BASIC [18:25] missing a key off the keyboard though, can't remember which [18:25] dive: CoCo II? [18:25] still got TRS80 boxed up in wardrobe [18:25] oh, great, my window was scrolled waaay up and I just read the line of acidchild saying he had changed his pager to "more" [18:25] Urchlay, yeah coco [18:25] my first computer was a 133 P1 64mb of ram 2GB harddrive [18:25] =) [18:26] acidchild: what are, 12? :) [18:26] er, what are you... [18:26] _chess_ i knew you where around only to shy to speak up :) [18:26] complete with 5 1/4 inch drive and 4 inch wide printer/plotter [18:26] Urchlay: 20 :-) [18:26] got my first computer at 12. [18:26] dive: right here in my room I've got a set of pens that will fit that plotter [18:26] i was like 7 i think [18:27] (sealed in original packaging, but probably they've dried out anyway) [18:27] Urchlay: haha, packrat =P [18:27] <_chess_> nille_: no need for that, we're all one big happy family :-) [18:27] yep [18:27] then vic-64 and vic-plus 4 then amiga 500 [18:27] Urchlay: 'stuff' gives me anxiety, very weird effect. [18:27] some people it comforts... [18:28] acidchild: how did you manage to get a P1 computer 8 years ago? I got a similar computer about... 13 or 14 years ago [18:28] second hand, saved for about 6 months doing a paper route. [18:28] rg3: maybe he got it out of a dumpster? [18:29] i still miss my amiga 500 sometimes i wonder if i should pick it up at my parents place and try roll Linux on it :p [18:29] nille_: yes, you should! [18:29] acidchild: i feel ya, real slackers use shit hardware =) [18:29] lucas_agomes (i=c8e65201@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-696c7274332f1b2a) joined ##slackware. [18:29] phrag: =) [18:29] I logged into a friend's Linux amiga once, it was slow [18:29] phrag: we don't have to any more! =) [18:29] acidchild: cool, my daddy bought mine :D [18:29] I remember the time when I learned exactly how slow BASIC was when I tried to do some 3D stuff - anyone remember atari battle tank? [18:29] rg3: pft. [18:29] dive: what was it, a Battlezone clone written in BASIC? [18:30] some of us still skint as a burnt feather [18:30] well the 500, was it 33Mhz or something [18:30] trying to make sin/cosine functions in assembler = bleah [18:30] phrag: aye :( [18:30] Urchlay, ah probably it was battlezone then [18:30] dive: Atari software floating point = extra-bleah [18:30] but you have a nice rig pragma_ [18:30] phrag* [18:30] was like green line graphics [18:30] acidchild: hows it going? [18:31] excellent :-) starting a wireless ISP in downtown Toronto =) [18:31] and the bleeding supertanks that chase you backwards through the landscape.. [18:31] like, Atari's ROM floating point routines were an order of magnitude slower than the average ones on other computers of the time (commodore 64, Apple II, etc) [18:31] hmm [18:31] phrag: 5 towers so far :-) [18:31] my first slackware install was on an 133Mhz with 64mb ram and it wasn't that long ago (2004 i think) [18:31] phrag: yourself? [18:31] my mate keeps asking for his £90 PSU he lend me when mine blew up so i can finish my dissertation... it's like the best gear in my rig... and it only comes with 2 IDE power ports... so i have to go without a cdrom lol [18:32] not long ago I wrote a C library to use the Atari FP stuff from within cc65 programs... result? Compiled C programs that execute as slow as interpreted BASIC :( [18:32] and technically it's not in my rig, has to sit on top lol [18:32] owe :| [18:32] on the amiga i only programmed assembler [18:33] c or basic would be to slow [18:33] dive: that's either Battlezone, or (on the 2600) possibly Activision's Robot Tank [18:33] Necos, :) [18:33] green line graphics = vector graphics, you're talking about the arcade game? [18:33] Urchlay: http://geocities.com/ashleyoctober2000/my_set_up.png <-- my 'learning' setup before i left the contry [18:33] nille_: C wouldn [18:34] rofl [18:34] C wouldn't be too slow for most stuff [18:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:34] unless you're doing hold-and-modify graphics where you have to count CPU cycles [18:34] Urchlay, yeah I think it was Battlezone now I think of it - had a machine in the local pub [18:34] phrag: got plans for after university now? [18:34] this is your last year, correct? [18:35] yeah, Battlezone is a classic. At the time, it was amazing [18:36] here we go: http://members.lycos.co.uk/leeedavison/6502/battlezone/index.html [18:36] very detailed description of the game [18:37] everybodys webpages where hosted by lycos or geocities back then [18:37] haha. [18:37] acidchild: yeah, finishign in like 4 weeks... worst 4 weeks of my life, not even started writing diss up and still scripting on it [18:38] acidchild: plans... find a job in a shitty recession [18:38] eh, back when? battlezone predates the www by a few years... [18:38] phrag: hey, its not imposible =) [18:38] you just gotta fight, hussle and stamp on a few people [18:38] =) [18:38] Action: phrag begs [18:38] no [18:38] Action: acidchild slaps phrag [18:39] bad boy! [18:39] for about a month my local paper has been getting opinion letters whining about people buying junk food with food stamps [18:39] roll over! play dead! [18:39] ...on the streets [18:39] pi31415: better than them buying crack with food stamps [18:39] or old cadillacs [18:39] someone got food stamps!? [18:40] on the other hand, someone i know on welfare had to sign to verify they earned less than some amount, and they were given a carton of milk over 7 months past the expiration date.. it contained a stinky lump inside. [18:40] Action: acidchild gives phrag a pack of mr noodles. [18:40] score [18:40] honor does not exist [18:40] phrag: there is always call centers.. heh [18:40] USDA milk [18:40] acidchild: omg [18:40] phrag: hey, gotta bring in the bacon [18:41] you got bacon!? [18:41] =P [18:41] there are too damn many people in the world, nobody has the time/energy to deal honorably with all of them [18:41] phrag: sure =P [18:42] Urchlay: i respect myself too much to abuse welfare. [18:42] been on it for 1month eva. [18:42] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:42] i've never been on the dole either, always been in education or work [18:43] or both [18:43] aye [18:43] bijit (i=1000@201.195.91.149) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [18:43] actually, always both [18:43] phrag: atleast your not leaving uni with no education, you got that year of electrical stuff [18:43] no experiance* [18:44] fuck sake, i spilt full glass of beer all ove rmy lvoely happy hacking keyboard [18:44] acidchild: 5 years [18:44] excellent [18:44] and phone, and skins o.0 [18:44] lol [18:44] :< [18:44] you now have a very long skin! [18:44] apart from the obvious, i'm down a full can of beer! [18:44] the magic never ending rizla [18:45] phrag: my friend spilt beer on my laptop keyboard. [18:45] rizla? buy a bong [18:45] ooh, did you beat them ? [18:45] phrag: not yet [18:45] nille_: nothing beats a nice phatty [18:45] phrag: the keyboard is now dead. [18:45] :) [18:46] my rizla are for cigarettes [18:46] thumbs: make sure to return the favor ^_^ [18:46] Necos: sure thing [18:46] NP: The Streets - Give Me Back My Lighter [18:47] gotta play this to my gf, she's left with 6 of my lighters in her coat pocket. [18:47] thumbs: not insured or anything ? [18:47] phrag: nope. [18:47] phrag: I have to pay for it to get repaired at some place. [18:47] what about buying the keyboard on ebay? [18:47] is it just me or does linux ppl or programmers tend more often to light some weed? [18:48] there's beer all over in the computer now [18:48] nille_: just you ;) hehe [18:48] it has to be taken apart. [18:48] nille_: atleast we're productive with our high :) [18:48] ya know... i have a funny story about nille_ [18:48] Action: phrag doesn' take laptops apart anymore... o.0 [18:48] being black, and living in LA, i get asked if i smoke weed quite often... [18:48] and everyone is suprised when i answer no >.> [18:48] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:49] having 4ft long hair living in toronto, people just asume [18:49] :P [18:49] damn cold-frenchy potheads ;) [18:49] hey, i aint no french [18:49] lol [18:49] proud brit ty! [18:49] shaved hair and live in sweden ;) [18:49] living in my area... people just assume [18:50] acidchild: do you drink tea and enjoy crumpets? [18:50] oh god, my boss is a northern brit... the old bastard [18:50] nope [18:50] acidchild: you ain't no brit, son. [18:50] coffee and hobnobs! [18:50] :D [18:50] wey aye [18:50] Action: Necos stabs acidchild [18:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf3g-L6gf44 [18:50] a reasonable substitue [18:50] +t [18:50] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: "~" [18:50] a reasonable prostitute? [18:50] I've never met one. [18:50] Action: acidchild offers a hobnob to phrag [18:50] milk chocolate covered [18:50] xD [18:51] omnomnom [18:51] aw man [18:51] now I really want hobnobs [18:51] you bastard [18:51] lol [18:51] ha [18:51] hehehe [18:51] Necos: you eva had one? [18:52] if not, your missing out on one of lifes greatest treats! [18:52] that and ironbrew! [18:52] but they're so addictive [18:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:52] yueck ironbrew [18:52] bah! [18:52] hobknob ducked in coffee [18:52] yumnim [18:53] nope... but if you're talkin about 'em with drool drippin down your lip, they must be good [18:53] ironbrew is banned in US cause some mad chemical in it [18:53] coffee time bbl (@ coffee time) ghettoo [18:53] phrag: nar, you can only get diet iron brew here :( [18:53] same with skittles [18:54] scares me if the US banned it cause of health concerns! o.0 [18:54] what, diet skittles? >.> [18:54] same with absenthe [18:54] yeah but that's just pure ethenol [18:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe [18:55] phrag: they ban stuff because they know the public has issues with seld moderation [18:55] can buy it at my local corner shop =P [18:55] they serve anyone who looks over 12 lol [18:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] yeah, cause the british can moderate their achohol o.0 [18:57] goddamn... 45-75% abv... [18:57] tasty! [18:57] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [18:57] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [18:57] lol this song is hilarious [18:58] Absinthe is unusual among spirits in that it is bottled at a very high proof but is normally diluted with water when drunk. <---- eh!? [18:58] yup [18:59] Water & sugar [18:59] just sugar :) [18:59] lol [18:59] P4C0: of course its better to have a flaming sugar cube on a slotted spoon and pour the absynthe over it [18:59] there's sugar in your alcohol system, eh? [18:59] P4C0: but not everyone is in the ideal situation there :D [19:02] eviljames: what kind of time do you have to set up some shit like that? =p [19:02] eviljames: agree, those big sugar cubes are hard to find :p [19:02] Necos: In a bar scenario, not much. But if you're going to consume absynthe in mass quantity it might be better not to be at the bar :D [19:03] there's a bar here that sells absynthe shots, 10 dollars each :( right from the bottle no sugar :p [19:03] lol [19:03] P4C0: say goodbye to your liver for me [19:04] nah, it works fine most of the time [19:04] lol [19:04] the absinthe they make now, is it really the same thing as the old stuff? [19:04] I read somewhere the formula for it was lost a long time ago, and the modern variety is just a best guess [19:04] Urchlay: I don't think so, it's regulated now as far as I know [19:05] hmmmm [19:05] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-198747.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "asdf" [19:05] Urchlay: It varies. [19:06] Urchlay: Some are proper wormwood, others are just liquor. [19:06] Urchlay: prossibly better, you know how to prepair a drink of Absinthe? pour a shotglass of it in a 6 or 8 ounce glass, place a sugarcube in a perforated spoon above the drink and slowly pour some cold water dissolving the sugar cube in to the drink [19:06] Pig_Pen: yeah, there was a character on the show "Carnivale" who did that [19:07] (good show, if you're at all into TV) [19:07] most modern absinthe is a blend, not distilled the old way, and if you drink it with water/sugar its much MUCH better, as the cold water releases the essential oils in the liquor and makes the flavors come out [19:07] M-tty (n=M-tty@32.171.161.212) joined ##slackware. [19:07] straight absinthe, especially the strong stuff (180 proof) is like drinking fire [19:07] i am interested in trying absinthe, i never tried it before [19:07] wormwood... is another name for wood alcohol? [19:07] hmmmm [19:07] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] it's a herb [19:07] interesting... [19:07] wormwood is a type of bush [19:08] firewater :) [19:08] the leaves of which are distilled, with other herbs, to make absinthe [19:08] in the kitchen here is a mason jar full of "moonshine" [19:08] not brave enough to open it [19:09] the active ingredient, which comes from the wormwood, is thujone, and it wont make you see a green fairy [19:09] looks like clear water, guess that'd be corn liquor [19:09] absinthe is like being drunk and stoned at the same time, or maybe drunk and on pain killers, very mellow, and you dont have to drink a lot to have a good time so you usually dont get wasted [19:09] ag3ntugly: so the alcohol is just sort of a side effect? [19:10] no you get a buzz, but the thujone enhances it [19:10] lol ag3ntugly i saw that on the wiki [19:10] interesting... [19:10] if you can imagine like 3 beers and a vicodin [19:10] probably illegal in the US [19:10] lol Urchlay, it isn't [19:10] its not illegal to possess in the US [19:10] production began again in '07 [19:10] (these days the law is written to outlaw states of mind rather than specific chemicals) [19:10] it was illegal for a long time [19:10] used to be illegal to consume though [19:10] recently legalized [19:11] saw a bottle at liquor store the other day, spelled "Absenthe" [19:11] Urchlay: that stuff has VERY low levels of thujon, its basically just strong alcohol [19:11] you can buy the good stuff online though [19:11] thujone [19:11] what brand do you look for, for the proper stuff? [19:12] just hit up a website that sells it, they'll have reviews and such [19:12] imported from France [19:12] but hapsburg is good [19:12] ezill (n=adam@84.19.45.164) joined ##slackware. [19:12] guys what torrent client are you using ? [19:13] with gui, something lightweight [19:13] i dontknow enough about it to know whats good, i need to figure that out before i buy a bottle [19:13] qbittorrent [19:14] ezill: i like vuze (azureus), but it's not very lightweight lol... but ctorrent is really good for console [19:14] ezill: ktorrent [19:14] http://terminus.ath.cx/files/sdc10875.jpg (thats on my desk right now, alas twere emptied long ago) [19:14] ag3ntugly: http://www.hapsburgabsinthe.com/ <--- the bottle looks familiar [19:14] thinking I've seen that somewhere local [19:15] that's the stuff with high thujone content? [19:15] ag3ntugly: i don't see it >.> [19:15] 404 [19:15] hapsburg, i may just have to get a bottle [19:15] ezill: I like transmission, for a pretty lightweight gui torrent client [19:15] http://terminus.ath.cx/files/SDC10875.JPG [19:15] HAS TO BE CAPS! [19:16] anyhow, that is a bottle of hapsburg premium reserve extra special super strenght [19:16] 98% alcohol by volume [19:16] its a blend however [19:16] but it will fuck you up good [19:16] its an 8mp image, read teh label well [19:16] thanks [19:16] "handle with extreme caution" [19:17] 89.9% by volume... goddamn ag3ntugly [19:17] was it 89.9 [19:17] dam n i thought it was 98 [19:17] "contains wormwood infusion" [19:17] oh well, either way [19:17] i mean, goddamn, how did you survive :) [19:17] isn't weed beeter? :p [19:17] my buddy brought this from new zealand [19:17] DANGER: do not drink neat [19:17] i drank a couple shots one night at my friends "home from the NZ" party [19:17] yeah [19:17] hahahahahahaha [19:18] i drank it straight the first time and it was rough [19:18] add water / mixer to taste [19:18] but yeah you can buy this shit in liquor stores in NZ [19:18] wtf? [19:18] right next to the other liquors like it aint nothin [19:18] P4C0: weed makes me stupid and paranoid at the same time, plus I got tired of dealing with drug dealers (by definition, criminals) [19:18] ag3ntugly absinthe and weed. why wasn't i invited :( [19:18] ... [19:18] Urchlay: make sense [19:18] lol [19:19] Necos, and does the ctorrent slackbuilds package need some libraries ? [19:19] good weed no less, dunno what its called but it'll take the rust off a bumper cmon [19:19] no, because it's command-line [19:19] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: "Leaving." [19:19] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-222-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] but yeah absinthe tastes like licorice [19:19] not as bad as jager, but if you dont care for licorice its not very good [19:19] used to drink ouzo sometimes [19:19] which also tastes like licorice [19:20] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [19:20] jäger is nice [19:20] ag3ntugly: damn it... not i gotta try some of this absinthe [19:20] *now [19:20] i hate you >.<; [19:21] I hate jagermeister... it's the only drink whose flavor is actually improved by being mixed with red bull, and that still tastes like crap [19:21] that's a heart attack waiting to happen =p [19:21] yeah, like speedballing [19:21] I like the poetry in Absythe [19:21] you mix jägermeister? [19:21] and with that 'night to all [19:21] you're crazy [19:21] nille_: I don't, cause I don't drink it at all [19:22] but someone once handed me a mixed jager + redbull without telling me what it was, said "drink it!" [19:22] she was attractive enough that I didn't argue [19:22] try double vodka + redbull [19:22] skapazzo (n=skapazzo@151.9.96.3) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:22] BP{k}: can I leave out the redbull, or replace it with lime juice? [19:22] lol [19:23] (or kahlua? /me likes black russians OK) [19:23] Urchlay: only if you dare to taste kethry's special chillie vodka [19:23] Yum, Patron! [19:23] khalua? yuck [19:23] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:23] well try jägermeister the day after it will do good things to your stomach [19:23] isn't illegal to mix redbull with alcohol at some places? [19:23] then again, i'm lactose intolerant, you insensitive clod =p [19:23] chili vodka? like, chili pepper flavored? eww [19:23] P40C What? [19:23] Urchlay: scotch bonnet flavoured yes [19:24] hm. maybe with lime... [19:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe#Preparation [19:24] its all in the preparation [19:24] Does anyone know a program for a desktop popup based on an event, or some other visual alert? [19:24] you mix things to much you should start drinking it as it is [19:25] snowdonkey, kdialog [19:26] nille_: single malt scotch is perfect as-is (or over ice) [19:26] nille_: nothing :p [19:26] dive: Ah, thanks a lot. I'm checking it out. [19:26] no ICE ever in whiskey [19:26] really expensive vodka I can drink neat, but the cheap stuff needs a mixer to take the bite off [19:26] youre a sinner ice in whiskey [19:26] lol [19:27] XAVIER (i=440e41d4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9e5bee9fcafd24bc) joined ##slackware. [19:27] eh, ice in whiskey doesn't bother me. *cola* in whiskey sets my teeth on edge [19:27] swedish vodka is nice [19:27] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-4473ccf62bf6def7) joined ##slackware. [19:27] what if you put dry ice in whiskey? [19:27] a couple of years ago, my friend took me to a bar... and he and i did 11 shots each of johny walker black label... first time i had ever drank that much... suprise i didn't throw up [19:27] it will explode [19:27] whiskey should be as it is or with a little bit of water [19:28] johny walker is goood [19:28] yeah jw is decent shit [19:28] nille_: or just ice [19:28] nille_: well I prefer it cold, but nobody ever keeps it in the freezer, hence the ice [19:28] sodium in whiskey (wild turkey) [19:28] i once drank a liter of kentucky deluxe and passed out at 11:30 on new years, good times... [19:28] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "SCHLORP" [19:28] P4C0: black label is good. [19:28] red label is good for doing the dishes in [19:28] ice is to cold it's ruin the taste [19:29] :) [19:29] well black label is "okay" .. it's still just a blended. [19:29] lol [19:29] black label is _REALLY_ good [19:29] whiskey should be room temperatured (and the water also if it's a smokey whiskey) [19:29] just bought a bottle of "vikingfjord" vodka, says it's from Norway [19:29] $10 for a fifth, I expect it'll be nasty [19:29] i wanna try the other ones tho [19:29] room temp, with a little cocaine in it... [19:29] heh [19:29] ? [19:30] vikingfjord never tried it [19:30] ag3ntugly: eh? [19:30] whiskey [19:30] Necos: nah. [19:30] with cocaine in it [19:30] Necos: single malt > blended. [19:30] nille_: me either, yet... bottle isn't open yet. Will let you know [19:30] like merle haggard or someone used to do, till thier liver died [19:30] thats the way a REAL man drinks whiskey [19:31] or that jackass from motley crue who injected alcohol in a vein... [19:31] lol [19:31] right [19:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHowqKYSXNI :D [19:31] grr now i need to run and get me some whiskey [19:31] ag3ntugly: if it involves me dying, that's not very efficient ^_~ [19:31] brb [19:31] Necos: you wont die the first few dozen times, so as long as you only do it once or twice [19:31] stage lights burnt one too many brain cells [19:32] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "leaving" [19:32] nille_: be a man, and get some whisky instead :) [19:32] the first few times? fuck that [19:32] *few dozen [19:33] remember going to a party, someone made "hunch punch" out of 3 or 4 different liquors, fruit juices, and the secret ingredient: powder made from crunching up muscle relaxers and vicodin [19:33] Urchlay: sounds like some dangerous shit [19:33] im down [19:33] moral of the story: never drink anything alcoholic that was mixed up by a person who doesn't drink [19:34] lol [19:34] that's fuckin scary Urchlay [19:34] (even if he does claim to have a master's degree in chemistry) [19:34] we used to make that with everclear, fruit, and like coolaid, and tons of sugar and pieces of gum. You'd get drunik, and have alcohol soaked gum and fruit to chew on too [19:34] and it hid the everclear well, it was highly alcoholic, but tasted like candy [19:34] vodka + green gatorade [19:34] so now i got a glass of lagavulin in front of me [19:35] useful for when you get to a party late and have some catching up to do [19:35] yes [19:35] nille_: nice. :-) [19:35] now thats whiskey [19:35] NO [19:35] FFS [19:35] that's whisky [19:35] (the weird electrolytes/enzymes/etc in the gatorade make the vodka take effect faster) [19:35] lol [19:35] yeah [19:35] rg3 (n=deckard@90.168.194.221) left irc: "Leaving." [19:35] does it have to be green? [19:35] Action: BP{k} takes away nille_ glass [19:35] i made the mistake of drinking gatorade before a party [19:35] nille_: you're not worthy. [19:36] well no, green is just my favorite flavor [19:36] BIG WHISKEY BABY!!!!!!!!!! [19:36] i like "frost" the best, will it still work? [19:36] rki (n=rki@unaffiliated/rki) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] ag3ntugly: any flavor will work [19:36] LMAO [19:36] everclear + "green"= green dragon = awesomest thing ever. :D [19:36] rki (n=rki@145.100.193.232) joined ##slackware. [19:36] all of 'em work ag3ntugly [19:36] Action: nille_ beats BP{k} for stealing lagavulin [19:36] ILL BREAK YA LEGS [19:36] hmmm [19:36] i'll have to remember that [19:36] nille_: well get it right then. [19:36] but specifically green gatorade + vodka is called a "green goddammit" [19:36] ILL BREAK YA FREAKIN LEGS DAMNIT [19:36] XAVIER kicked from ##slackware by Stx: Get real. [19:36] nille_: you are drinking *whisky* not _whiskey_ [19:36] XAVIER (i=440e41d4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9e5bee9fcafd24bc) joined ##slackware. [19:37] ok i won't break ya legs [19:37] ##slackware: mode change '+b %XAVIER!*@*' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [19:37] XAVIER: Behave, please. [19:37] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:37] ##slackware: mode change '-b %XAVIER!*@*' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [19:37] ... [19:37] nille_: although a good choose and a good Islay whisky :) [19:37] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagavulin_Single_Malt 16yr [19:38] Hey Stx - I had not seen you enter :-) [19:38] ok i miss spelled [19:38] grazymax (n=grazymax@host79-156-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:38] nille_: hehe. Whiskey is irish etc .. all scotch whisky is refered to and written as whisky :) [19:38] BP{k} it even smells great [19:39] i didn't know that [19:39] BP{k}: Also "Dorsai whisky" is never spelled with the E in it [19:39] lol [19:39] nille_: I'll bet :) [19:39] i thougt it was Whiskey in english [19:39] I have a bottle of 10 year old Laphroaig here. :) [19:39] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] in swedish it's whisky [19:39] and if you get it wrong they might invade & take over your planet... [19:39] alienBOB: hey man :-) hehe thats because I didnt enter today, more like a week ago :-) [19:39] alienBOB: hows things? [19:39] Hehe [19:39] BP{k} good choose [19:40] About to go to sleep - had too much to drink for a tuesday [19:40] grazymax (n=grazymax@host57-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:40] nille_: the Islay whisky's are among my favourites :) [19:41] Floops (n=baihu@bankii.ax.lt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:41] Crown Royal. [19:41] alienBOB apparently was not really paying attention to the liquor discussion ^_^ [19:41] I put a period at the end, because Crown is the end of whiskey. It's about as good as can be :D [19:41] lol [19:41] whisky is good but it's only for the taste not to get drunk because thats waste of good whisky [19:41] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] BP{k}: technically you only have half a bottle of laphroaig here [19:41] BP{k} mmmm yummy [19:41] kethry: no technically I only have 1/3 or so left :| [19:41] BP{k}: then the situation is even more dire than i thought [19:42] indeed. go to the shop? kthxbai [19:42] wallit? kthxbai [19:42] lol [19:42] alienBOB: hehe, alright, sounds like a good idea tho [19:42] Action: BP{k} hands kethry the money [19:42] i start with lagavulin and soon im on grants :p [19:42] nille_: seriously, try laphroaig, it's got a real smokey taste to it. :) [19:42] Ive had 4 days off from work; going back tommorow tho, bleh. [19:42] ok i'll getcha some on thursday if you gimme the oodles. [19:42] laphroaig is real good [19:43] hmm. we used to have a bottle of laphroaig in the office, for those days when we had to stay late. time to replenish it [19:43] kethry: Pick a little some thin up for yourself also, since BP{k} is buyin. [19:43] XGizzmo_: ohhh so kind of you to say so .. *grins* [19:43] hehehe [19:43] ananke i would work late everyday then [19:44] kethry: a little being 10mil bottle [19:44] the trouble is.. most of what i would buy if i was going to treat myself .. he'd benefit from anyway. [19:44] (cookery stuff) [19:44] nille_ : that's why it didn't last long... [19:44] \o/ [19:44] lol [19:45] is it possible to route a connection through say putty? Like I have a host that I can ssh into, then be able to connect to a ftp server and then have the connection routed back through to the host runny putty? or even just connect through the ssh host to the ftp server and back? [19:45] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [19:45] my glass is empty, well i'll take a beer [19:45] eXile_: it can be done with regular ssh, probably putty has a way to do it too [19:45] yes, you can use putty to do an SSL tunnel [19:46] *ssh [19:46] so say I had a accsess list on an ftp server tha tonly allowed certain IPs, I set it up so the IP of the ssh host has accsess, I can then tunnel through the ssh host and hit the ftp from that ip and have it come back to the box running putty [19:47] ill google it [19:47] if thats how it works [19:47] ftp is a bit of a pain due to it using two ports. Definitely want to use passive ftp for this. [19:47] but, eh, why not just use sftp? [19:48] because you could use rsync [19:48] lol ; [19:48] customer request not mine [19:48] yeah, rsync would be better and easier [19:48] :P [19:48] eXile_: Sell your customer on rsync :D cwRsync if they're a windows shop [19:48] ill look into it thanks! 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[21:13] hi, I am not being able to set any resoltion greater than 1024x768 on slack12.2 (vesa driver, i915gm board). Any ideas? [21:14] vesa driver [21:14] change it [21:15] gbonvehi i think it will not be possible. I do not know why, but in every distro I have tested, when I try to use the intel driver the X gets black and I have to reboot [21:16] this is happening to me since Xorg made that update using hal/dbus/evdev [21:16] slackware does not fall into the "every distro" category =) [21:16] the only driver I can use is vesa [21:16] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:16] slava_dp ok, sorry [21:16] bruc3 (n=rafael@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [21:16] np, just kidding [21:17] you might want to try intel anyway [21:17] slava_dp ok, I will [21:17] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] in others distro I was able to set 1400x1050 using vesa driver [21:18] I will try the intel driver now, thank you :) [21:18] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "tnx" [21:22] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: "~" [21:23] rapid (n=rapid@c220-239-129-83.dandn1.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [21:23] chad (n=chad@cpc1-stme1-0-0-cust437.cdif.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [21:24] M-tty (n=M-tty@32.171.161.212) left irc: "used jmIrc" [21:24] hey guys, i installed a version of dbus earlier, but now hald doesnt start properly sometimes, and also bluetooth isn't working. any ideas what i should do? should i uninstall dbus? [21:25] how did you install it? [21:26] slackware comes with dbus + hal [21:26] antD (n=antD@c-75-75-183-107.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: [21:26] yeah i realised afterwards [21:26] sounds messy [21:27] and i'm sure you compiled from source and didn't make a package? [21:27] yep [21:27] do you still have the source around? [21:27] i do [21:27] you can try to "make uninstall" [21:28] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [21:28] and then re-install the dbus packages from slackware [21:28] that's about your only shot [21:30] chad (n=chad@cpc1-stme1-0-0-cust437.cdif.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "leaving" [21:30] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.44.208) joined ##slackware. [21:32] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:33] slava_dp got no luck, it did not work [21:33] foo2foo, have you tried fbdev driver? [21:33] dive i am using vesa right now [21:34] try fbdev [21:34] i have never tried the fbdev [21:34] ok [21:34] anyone running -current on a laptop and see kde do whatever the hell it wants with your backlight? [21:34] vesa has always worked well for me, the only problem now is that i cannot set any resolution higher than 1024x768 =/ [21:34] nullboy, I'm running current on T21 but don't see that problem [21:35] dive I will try fbdev [21:35] dive thanks [21:35] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:35] dive: i can manually override it with the actual backlight keys but kde keeps dimming it and i don't it set to do so [21:35] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] don't have it [21:36] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: [21:36] ah actually I used to have that on this T42 - coming out of suspend/hibernate the backlight would dimmer [21:36] but only after suspend/hibernate [21:37] I think [21:37] i'll bet there are a lot of fixes in the pipe [21:37] maybe dpms did it as well, but it stopped doing it some time ago [21:37] tony (n=tony@c-69-249-43-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] i know alienBOB said he had been trialing 4.2.2 [21:37] hello everybody [21:38] heLLo! boy [21:38] nullboy, does it only do it in kde? [21:38] dive: yeah [21:38] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] im new to slackware [21:38] tony: welcome to the light side [21:38] welcome [21:38] tony when version you used? [21:38] thank you :) [21:39] bruc3...? im on the newest version 12.2 i believe [21:39] tony: you'll want to check these two resources out http://slackbasics.org/html/ and http://slackbook.org/ [21:39] ok thanks [21:39] chad (n=chad@cpc1-stme1-0-0-cust437.cdif.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [21:40] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [21:40] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [21:40] i got dbus working now =) [21:40] uvv (n=uvv@85.117.64.129) joined ##slackware. [21:41] cheers [21:41] nullboy, so it's driver/dpms related unless kde does strange things with dpms [21:41] nullboy, so it's not* [21:41] does it just do it at random or after screen blanking? [21:42] chad (n=chad@cpc1-stme1-0-0-cust437.cdif.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:42] dive: i'll pin point it tonight [21:43] i will have a look at mine tomorrow [21:43] if this insomnia ever wears off [21:43] sometimes a little nightcap helps [21:43] i'm out of beer :( [21:43] dang! [21:46] where do i start... [21:46] i just showed you [21:46] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:46] Action: Old_Fogie waves hello to the channel. :) [21:47] Action: nullboy bites off Old_Fogie's flapping appendage [21:47] hey Old_Fogie =) [21:47] http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.cpm/browse_thread/thread/c125dba538329a78/9707f744fe40951c [21:47] bizarre post [21:47] hiya Old_Fogie:) [21:47] hi dee ho :) [21:47] bruc3 (n=rafael@189.56.20.108) left ##slackware. [21:49] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:49] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] i edited my /etc/syslog.conf, do i need to do something to restart something for changes to take effect? [21:49] bruc3 (n=rafael@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [21:49] /etc/rc.d/rc.syslog restart [21:50] kwiki [21:50] 21:46 < tony> where do i start... [21:51] Hmmm, damn mouse. [21:51] hi Old_Fogie :-) [21:51] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-172-42.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:52] dive bad xorg, no cookies for me [21:52] bad xorg? [21:52] dive it did not work with fbdev [21:52] hmm :/ [21:53] dive i have already had this problem in other pcs/distros [21:53] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.80) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:53] dive but the problem it was that I did not have the hsync and vsync configured in xorg.conf [21:54] dive but in slack seems like it another problem [21:54] foo2foo, I have to put them values in on many a pc too, seems edid in the kernel/xorg isn't always reliable. [21:54] do i really have to read all that stuff [21:54] foo2foo, which video card is it? I came in late. [21:55] Old_Fogie i915gm, intel driver is not an option [21:55] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:55] foo2foo, oh? I have that same video card on my acer netbooks, 10 of them [21:55] tony, that stuff comes in very handy for setting up slackware and problem solving - it's usually recommended to read it [21:56] tony i am sorry man if this seems dumby or newbie in any way, if I am doing something that disagrees with the channel or philosophy of slack please tell me and I will try to behave better or just shut up in my ignorance [21:56] ++++++++ [21:56] + [21:56] ? [21:56] you need to read to learn [21:56] foo2foo, lol he was talking about some links posted ealier [21:56] not about you [21:56] foo2foo, what's the problem with the video card? [21:57] foo2foo: intel driver should work you just might need a later version of the driver and such [21:57] Old_Fogie i cannot use intel driver because my X gets black and I need to reboot [21:57] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [21:57] the intel driver version in Slack 12.2 works for me with that model , I even get compiz fusion on them. [21:58] foo2foo, aha, gimme a sec. [21:58] Old_Fogie so I am using vesa for some months now, the problem is that in slack i cannot set a resolution greater than 1024x768 [21:58] hey :) [21:58] dive :) tnx [21:59] np :) [21:59] foo2foo, (or anyone else in need of) http://pastebin.com/d598ffec6 [21:59] kitche maybe, but i am not willing to recompile xorg, do you know any easier way? [22:00] Old_Fogie thank you man [22:00] how I can install NV 5500 in slackware 12.2 ? [22:00] NV Fx 5500 [22:00] foo2foo, that will disable compiz, and disable the AIGLX extensions, of which a few intel video cards here (not the 915) but those cards *totally* lock up the whole box. [22:00] foo2foo, on slackware, debian, you name it. so it's a good failsafe. [22:01] Old_Fogie I do not mind, I use blackbox as windoe manager and do not need 3d [22:01] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [22:01] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:01] Old_Fogie the heavier thing I do in my box is watch movies [22:02] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:02] Old_Fogie I will try your config, thank you again [22:02] bbl, supper awaits.... [22:02] foo2foo, remember X saves a log into /varlog/Xorg.0.log too. Best thing to to do is, if you have another pc right, ssh into your box that has issues. then go to the bad box, fire up x with the intel driver in use, and then go back to the good box and get yourself a copy of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file it tells alot. [22:03] foo2foo are you experiencing issues with the xf86-video-intel driver? [22:03] Old_Fogie I have done this a lot for months and have no luck at all. I just gave up ... [22:03] http://www.gobolinux.org/?page=at_a_glance [22:03] mth__ yes [22:03] foo2foo, you could of course paste the xorg.conf file we can take a look-see for ya. [22:04] that's not going to require local source modifications [22:04] help me , how install GeForce FX 5500 driver ? [22:05] foo2foo, which Slackware are you on? [22:05] Old_Fogie ok I will :) [22:05] Old_Fogie 12.2, installed it today [22:05] pi31415: oh man it looks like c:\ [22:05] foo2foo, ok, 12.2 should work fine. which kind of monitor? [22:05] nullboy: it looks seductive, eliminate the need for /var/adm/packages [22:06] Fzza3a, slackbuilds.org has buildscripts [22:06] Old_Fogie it is a widescreen monitor in a toshiba satellite m55 [22:06] foo2foo, ok [22:06] t :) [22:08] pi31415: i dunno man "There is no rocket science to this: /bin is a link to /System/Links/Executables." [22:08] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [22:08] sort of freaking me out [22:09] I remember using a Unifix derivative that kept each package in its own directory, and made symbolic links to the directories [22:09] Fzza3a, http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=nvidia&sv=12.2 [22:09] "You may have noticed that the Unix paths did not show up in the system root listing in the very first example. They are actually there, but they are concealed from view using the GoboHide kernel extension." <-- oh no you didn't [22:09] a kernel patch [22:09] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:10] looks like the gobolinux installer uses python/qt =( [22:10] pnano (i=pnano@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x7B76332A) left irc: "bye" [22:10] thanks dive [22:11] Old_Fogie I will try your fixes, back in a minute [22:11] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Read error: 1.414213562 (Excessive square root of 2)" [22:12] what's namber for fx 5500 ? , 96 or 71 or ..... ! [22:12] gobohide kernel extension? [22:12] Nick change: gm152_ -> gm152 [22:12] lol [22:12] gobopwn [22:12] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:13] Fzza3a, you may need to find out on nvidia.com which driver version to use [22:13] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-140-103.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:13] Fzza3a, try the first 2 slackbuilds in the link i gave first, to see if there's a problem [22:13] nullboy: http://sansforensics.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/digital-forensics-professionals-might-be-required-to-become-private-investigators-via-new-licensing-amendments-in-north-carolina/ [22:14] wow...longer link than I expected... [22:14] SpacePlod: i knew it would happen soon, somewhere though [22:14] thanks dive , thanks all , :) [22:14] nullboy: you were thinking of a PI licence, right? [22:14] yeah [22:14] not a bad idea [22:14] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.2.196) joined ##slackware. [22:15] just an fyi. that particular one does not completely apply to what you do...but it's coming. [22:15] SpacePlod, I wonder if that applies to ISPs too? [22:15] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:15] Fzza3a, go to nv site like dive said, it's in the readme the supported hardware for each of the various nv drivers [22:15] it excludes sysadms [22:15] well netadmins [22:16] I dont' thing the NC one does, but I know TX and GA are talking about applying it all the way down to A+ techs. [22:16] i'm down [22:16] i think that would be good to stop idiots from making a bad situation worse [22:17] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [22:17] i've seen it happen so many times [22:17] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:17] nullboy: what happen? [22:17] Old_Fogie it did not work, i am putting some logs on pasebin [22:17] foo2foo, post the xorg.conf file too please [22:17] someone who can barely plug an Ipod in being called upon to fix a network and totally screwing it up [22:18] ah...right. I think this is more of a PII issue. But point taken. [22:18] Old_Fogie I will :) [22:18] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:19] one time a place i worked for hired a new lab tech who claimed, during the interview, that he was a windows server administrator. he tried to remove a CPU from a socket 478 motherboard using a screw driver instead of the release lever [22:19] lol [22:19] ouch [22:19] nullboy, while standing in puddle of water ? :) [22:19] lol [22:19] can only hope [22:19] my nv is fx 5500 and my driver is Version: 173.14.18 , bat in slackbuilds.org I find 2 chois (nvidia-legacy173-driver & nvidia-legacy173-kernel) , what do ? [22:20] wth [22:20] I'm getting "spam" messages on jabber [22:20] Dominian: that would rage me [22:20] Fzza3a, you need both kernel and driver [22:20] hey am i able to get a 1680x1050 resolution [22:20] rage like this http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/raaage.png [22:20] Fzza3a, SBo split the driver into two packages to make life easier for the admin (e.g. you) when it comes to kernel upgrades [22:21] ^^disturbingly angry. [22:21] lol [22:21] that's a goof rage [22:21] good* [22:22] the fact that you had that link ready to go is also disturbing [22:22] good desktop bg I think [22:22] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-208-19.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:22] that's why i saved it. i know that everyone has at least *felt* like that...maybe not looked like that just certainly felt it [22:22] yeah...like all day. [22:23] lmao [22:24] but of course we all strive to be like these two dudes http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/yogin-04.jpg [22:24] XAVIER (i=440e41d4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9e5bee9fcafd24bc) left irc: Client Quit [22:24] uvv (n=uvv@85.117.64.129) left ##slackware. [22:25] Action: SpacePlod wishes he had that much hair. [22:25] chilled [22:25] mine is getting really long now. as soon as all of it is 18"+ i'm having it shaved off and donated to cancer patients [22:26] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-201-59.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:26] I'll bet they *never* wear ties. [22:26] i'm about about an average length of 15 inches now [22:26] me too...oh wait...you meant hair... [22:26] lol [22:27] wtf [22:27] John Holmes!? [22:27] bow chicka bow wow [22:28] hey it's nice news that Apple nixed their DRM [22:28] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:28] but this method will always be good http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/rippah.jpg [22:29] at the risk of looking stupid...wtf? [22:29] ever really..really wanted a song? [22:29] that's one way [22:29] you take the headphone out and loop it to the line in [22:29] some...sort...of...loopback [22:30] then play and record at the same time [22:30] ahhh. right. [22:30] nullboy, with current tech, yes...but they are trying to move away from analog interfaces for that reason, maybe they will even make the hardware do fingerprinting like youtube [22:30] edman007: like the new DRM enabled headphone cables [22:30] that's so wrong [22:30] Action: edman007 was thinking the HDMI issue [22:31] but i suppose that counts too [22:31] http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/15/ipod-shuffle-headphones-contain-drm-chip/ [22:31] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:31] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [22:32] oh man...that sucks [22:32] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:32] I really dont mind drm at face value...but when it interferes with fair use, that's when it pisses me off. [22:33] but with HDTV they have been trying to make a law that tuner hardware must refuse to tune to channels that contain a "protected" flag (i think that got mostly throw out, but they tried) [22:33] chips in headphones crosses a line. [22:33] edman007: tivo protection? [22:33] nullboy: ROCKSTARTHU6 still has a nice "tiled" background [22:33] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:34] Dominian: it's probably not even a real profile :) [22:34] Dominian: lol [22:34] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] SpacePlod, IIRC, the hardware i was looking at seemed to say that they were aiming it at boxes that record to standard formats for distribution, current tuners will take unencrypted hdtv and spit out a perfect mpeg2, zero loss in quality, that could then get passed to some better compressors for distribution, which is why they are so against letting you have tuners [22:35] Dominian, load up meat spin, that will get their attention real fast [22:35] oh god [22:36] I haven't seen that one and I dunno if I really want to [22:36] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:36] Dominian, its an animated gif [22:36] however, alienBOB states that lemonparty has the desired effect even more so than tubgirl [22:36] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.87.146) joined ##slackware. [22:36] hehe [22:36] adds a lot of value [22:36] edman007: oh dear god [22:37] Dominian, but meatspin has that animated effect, makes it really eye catching [22:37] Nick change: edufa -> odagrom [22:37] oh I bet [22:40] Dominian, anyways, try meat spin [22:41] no [22:41] :P [22:41] odagrom (n=edufa@201009042144.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware. [22:41] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:45] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "BitchX: double your pleasure, double your fun!" [22:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:48] Dominian, i blame you for the lack on new quotes recently [22:48] not my fault [22:48] no one is submitting [22:48] :P [22:48] you must have scared em off [22:48] hehe [22:48] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:49] :D [22:49] Old_Fogie i got it! mth__ sent me an update of libdrm and intel driver [22:50] Old_Fogie i am free from vesa! [22:50] :D [22:55] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [22:58] foo2foo (n=egon@189-30-185-201.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Read error: 1.732050808 (Excessive square root of 3)" [22:59] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.16.25) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:59] tony (n=tony@c-69-249-43-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:02] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@123.122.106.87) joined ##slackware. [23:02] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:04] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.16.25) joined ##slackware. [23:04] mth__ (n=mth@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:04] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [23:05] i have a error when enter "glxinfo" : "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" , whey ? [23:08] could be a missing lib [23:08] which glxinfo then ldd it [23:08] google that, check the first link [23:09] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] Any recommendation on which hypervisor to use? [23:12] I am thinking of installing Windows and a few distributions of Linux on my system. [23:15] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:15] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:15] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.16.25) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:16] vmware [23:16] kleanchap: does your processor support hardware virtualization? [23:17] Dominian: Yes it does. [23:17] Then VMWare/kvm/qemu/xen/virtualbox should all work depending on what you wanna do [23:18] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S01060050dab40c0f.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:18] wat is kvm [23:18] never heard of that one [23:18] an in kernel hypervisor [23:18] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:18] owned by redhat [23:18] I'm waiting on xVM Server to go public [23:18] is it installed like [23:18] vb [23:19] or its like xen [23:19] however, need to find a CPU to test it with.. since none of mine support hardware virtualization [23:19] Dominian, why? it's solaris! :P [23:19] nachox: hah [23:19] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.16.25) joined ##slackware. [23:19] nachox: I love VBox [23:19] nachox: and from what I can tell xVM Server is going to give VMWare a run for its money [23:19] hrrgh, isn't there some new deal with 12.2 and packages installing udev rules? Like they go somewhere besides /etc/udev/rules.d now? [23:19] Dominian, vbox is great [23:19] who is making xvm [23:19] sun [23:20] same people that did virtualbox [23:20] i have both esx and vb [23:20] VirtualBox is Sun's version of VMWare Server [23:20] esxi [23:20] it has issues [23:20] xVM Server is Sun's verfsion of ESX/ESXi basically [23:20] ESXi WILL have issues [23:20] I use that at work a lot.. works fine. [23:20] bash-3.1$ glxinfo [23:20] name of display: :0.0 [23:20] Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". [23:20] Channel flood from Fzza3a -- kicking [23:20] Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". [23:20] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [23:20] Fzza3a kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:20] dumbass [23:20] Dominian, xVM server is something you'd use in a datacenter, it is supposed to manage lots of virtualization machines, [23:20] nachox: I know [23:21] nachox: I wanna test it [23:21] i find that esx [23:21] work better than esxi [23:21] nachox: acidchild and I have a project in mind for it :) [23:21] i got a weird error on esx [23:21] Floops: uhhh yeah considering ESXi is JUST the hypervisor [23:21] Fzza3a (n=Fzza3a@41.221.16.25) joined ##slackware. [23:21] where it would only allow one vm to run at a time [23:21] ESXi was never mean tto replace ESX [23:21] Fzza3a, another stunt like that and you're out, use pastebin [23:21] Action: Dominian waits for the "I didnt know" [23:22] lol [23:22] tony_ (n=tony@c-69-249-43-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] nm, found it. packages still use /etc/udev/rules.d, it looks like. Someone please tell me if I'm wrong? [23:22] hey so is there a way i can make my resolution 1680 1050 [23:22] never the less esxi runs well [23:22] Dominian, interesting, i want in :P [23:22] well the dell 6400 runs it good [23:22] heh [23:22] but the dell poweredge 1650 [23:23] hate esxi but runs esx well [23:23] Urchlay: That is the correct place afaik [23:23] ? [23:24] what mans , and what I can do ? [23:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:25] Dominian, will xvm run as os [23:25] or will it be complie on running os [23:26] Floops, it will be appliance like i think [23:26] does anyone knoe [23:26] know [23:27] tony_, doesnt looks like a standard resolution [23:27] its widescreen [23:28] run xrandr [23:28] it should tell you what the supported resolutions are [23:29] Floops: xvm server is another hypervisor similar to ESX from Vmware [23:29] ok [23:29] soo it will be os type then [23:29] interesting [23:29] I was part of the beta test program until I realized it was a hypervisor and didn't have a processor that was capable [23:29] when is it coming out [23:29] spec need to run it [23:29] "soon" is all I know [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] xvmserver.org [23:30] yea just pulled it up [23:30] Floops, xvm will be based around a solaris dom0 (xen) [23:30] awww [23:30] that mean it will need [23:30] vt-x [23:30] blaaaah [23:30] i have none of those [23:30] me either [23:30] vtx or svm [23:31] nmoura (n=kvirc@200.184.145.136) joined ##slackware. [23:31] any modern core 2 duo has it :) [23:31] core 2 carry that vtx [23:31] didn't know that [23:31] i have to look into it [23:31] Not all of them [23:31] cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep vt [23:32] The cheaper ones still lack it [23:32] or grep svm iirc [23:32] I don't run many intel processors so I don't remember the Intel version of that [23:32] i was just about to say that [23:32] taquito (n=rich@75.40.190.90) joined ##slackware. [23:32] taquito (n=rich@75.40.190.90) left irc: Client Quit [23:32] the cheap core 2 duo do not have it, yes [23:33] i don't have much intel processor expect for the dell 1650 [23:33] wonder which amd carry that interface [23:34] # xVM Server 1.0 Binaries (all platforms) (coming soon!) [23:34] # xVM Server 1.0 Open Source Code Bundle (coming soon!) [23:35] oh I'd like to build myself a machine dedicated to just Virtual Machines [23:35] but that's a long way off for me [23:35] Dominian, just use vmware :) it's available today [23:36] oh I have a vmware server setup already [23:36] but doesn' thave the type of horsepower I'm looking for [23:36] Dominian: quad quad cores with about 32 gig of ram? [23:36] nachox: hell I could even use virtualbox with headless VMs [23:36] XGizzmo: oh yes [23:36] yep, that too [23:36] you're inlove with vbox it seems :P [23:36] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:58] nmoura (n=kvirc@200.184.145.136) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [23:59] yes [23:59] I'm wondering if Slackware is uploading a *ton* of stuff (such as latest kde4) to primary mirror... I cannot access either one. [23:59] or how install compiz in Slack 12.2 ? [00:00] --- Wed Apr 8 2009