[00:00] ok, firefox does google whore, figure out your own defintion [00:00] I don't really care, why should I figure it out? And if I do, and it's not the same thing you mean by those words, we can't even discuss it properly [00:00] I'm surprised this dude hasn't been banned yet [00:00] then dont, who cares [00:01] SirBobDobbs: apparently, only you care [00:01] for what [00:01] for being rude [00:01] wow good reason [00:01] telling someone you *don't even know* that their opinion is "jack shit" isn't a good way to make friends or impress the channel with your wit... [00:01] SirBobDobbs: you just told someone to r-m ~/.k* -R [00:02] Good god did jeevs change nicks? [00:02] ill gladly help nabs, but if you wanna talk abot bs, im going to give my opinion...change subject if you disagree [00:02] antiwire, yeah i dont use kde lol [00:02] using kde or not doesn't matter [00:02] that was reckless [00:02] smart enough guy [00:03] heh, I don't use windows, so I'll go around telling people to DELTREE /Y C:\WINDOWS, that'll sure impress everyone [00:03] Urchlay, yeah, nice realistic comparison [00:03] well if he had any info in kontact then he's just deleted it [00:03] omg i lost config file for kFarted, zomggg cant boot [00:03] well then he's an idiot [00:04] if you wouldnt do it, then dont expect other people to unless they deserve to [00:04] survival [00:04] wow. [00:04] you agree [00:05] so by that logic, if I can trick you into killing yourself, you deserved to die? [00:05] yeap [00:05] so why are you even here? [00:05] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] it was an example [00:06] you obviously have no use for the society of your fellow humans [00:06] you obviously haven't been on this planet long [00:06] everything you do fucks over 300x people [00:06] you just dont know it [00:07] its all candy coated [00:07] oh christ [00:07] wake up [00:07] I see no further purpose to this discussion. End of line. [00:07] w/e its funny and true, you brought it up, im runing reactos in virtualbox zomg! [00:07] try some diablo 2 [00:08] Action: Quiznos feels vindicated not being the troll of daEvening :) [00:08] hah [00:08] http://thereifixedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tifi-cardboard.jpg [00:08] Quiznos: if you're a troll, at least you're a subtle one, maybe even with a point to make [00:08] Urchlay that is my valid goal [00:08] im not a troll i just think 99% of humans are idiots [00:09] i'm enberacing my inner troll from real life. [00:09] but ive always been 99th percentile [00:09] SirBobDobbs: you are within that 99. [00:09] SirBobDobbs would be in that 99% [00:09] You're not in the other 1% that's for sure [00:09] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:09] actually, 100% of humans are idiots, in some area or other [00:09] especially me. [00:09] Einstein had trouble tying his shoes [00:09] oops i think i am [00:09] Urchlay my high-skrool guidance counselor called me "a pain in the ass" (PITA) I just recently realised that he as a jewish prophet. LOL [00:09] doesnt matter ill die silently [00:10] can you hurry that process up? [00:10] hehe, trying [00:10] Urchlay plus, im old enuf to say "Im not putting up with crap anymore" [00:10] maybe you can start practicing the "silently" part now? [00:10] I don't think Quiznos is a troll. [00:10] your kind eviljames but wrong :) [00:10] lol [00:10] i'm a benvelolent troll [00:10] Quiznos tried to troll but ended up making a little sense [00:10] i think he's a troll [00:10] lol [00:11] hahah well, you at least had a reasonably defended argument the other day. Incorrect, or otherwise.. [00:11] nods ty [00:11] he actually has a sense of humor AKA troll [00:11] eviljames still think you're butt-ugly wrong tho [00:11] So he's a failed troll? [00:11] raymondmendoza (n=raymondm@cpe-67-241-90-254.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:11] http://noobfarm.org/?id=1499 [00:11] SirBobDobbs one of my maxims is thus: if ya aint having fun, quit and go home. [00:12] Quiznos: nah, you'll see the light sooner or later. enlightenment is a process that takes time. [00:12] meditate on it. [00:12] troo [00:12] Quiznos, its easy to laugh and have fun with all the idiots online that take everything seriously [00:12] no need Im already familiar wit hit [00:12] Quiznos: I'll point you in the right direction. Http://timecube.com [00:12] SirBobDobbs nods [00:12] need sarcasm tags [00:12] ok [00:12] thanks agentc0re, beat me to it again. [00:12] Nick change: SirBobDobbs -> sarcasm [00:12] Nick change: sarcasm -> sarcasm1337 [00:12] OH that's it; i'm sarcastic too bc it's a lost art!!! [00:12] Usually sarcasm is humourous. [00:12] Dominian: that was one of the most epic anti troll sessions ever [00:12] eviljames: You know, i think they are starting to believe....:D [00:13] online you cant read sarcasm [00:13] so its called trolling [00:13] antiwire: aye [00:13] Dominian: nice lol [00:13] what with Rodney gone i think and all the comics from the 60s too [00:13] and truth cant be told from sarcasm [00:13] but i hear Jackie Mason is still on the radio out of NewYork [00:13] That "quack" guy was a horrible troll if I ever saw one... [00:13] eh, not everyone's sarcasm involves actually being a dick, though [00:13] right, like me. i'm not cruel [00:13] so you have the righteous that try to fight the sarcastic/truth tellers as trolls when they agree anyway [00:13] at all. i'm just a PITA [00:13] lol [00:14] sarcasm1337 maybe umm what's his name comic HippDippy weatherman? [00:14] he was sarcastic with alot of Truth(TM) in his words [00:14] DERP? [00:14] oh man cant rmembr his nick [00:14] Sounds like a rich evangelist [00:14] hmm, i think I have more productive ways to use my time. bbl [00:15] quite possibly you've got your own opinions confused with objective truth. Hint: some things are completely subjective, there can be no objective truth about them [00:15] no, did the Carson show often [00:15] this is all offtopic ;P [00:15] anyway I'm done [00:15] superGear VERY!! [00:15] but there's a lull here [00:15] weathermen is a terrorist org [00:15] offtopic belongs in ##slackofftopic [00:15] no no, the HippyDippy Weatherman, the comic's character that he used to do on Carson's show [00:15] stfu nab [00:16] no [00:16] superGear this particulr thread was too dynamic to be scheduled into that channel. [00:16] slackware works fine [00:16] sarcasm1337: You must be new... [00:16] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] agentc0re nop [00:16] morons like sarcasm1337 deserve to no be in here period [00:16] but that is my opinion [00:16] thank god only that [00:16] Quiznos: in the future, you must schedule all your spontaneous outbursts, and submit them to management for approval! [00:16] ok [00:17] im a moron, right, try me ploxx [00:17] :) [00:17] lol [00:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Urchlay i am all off topic, being a rejected from ##Linux, it's all a single thread of consciousness that flows and ebbs from sanity to insanity with NO lines-o-demarcation. [00:18] sarcasm1337: Making up you're own words now? [00:18] ploxx is making fun of lars that says plx instead of plz [00:18] sarcasm1337 i cant believe they dont know who you were [00:18] ploxx - Make a painting online [00:18] kpbaps agi plx [00:18] sarcasm1337: wow you are full of fail. [00:19] kbaps str plx [00:19] awww, im just like you [00:19] i don't speak moronic [00:19] rot13 [00:19] I recall learning from the ancient comics that sarcasm is a skill to be harnessed and practiced early and often [00:20] lies! [00:20] where? [00:20] irony and sarcasm are fail! [00:20] nah; misunderstood arts of communication is all. [00:20] using verbs as nouns is failURE [00:20] online yes [00:20] then stop googling [00:20] heh [00:20] online they fail [00:21] otherwise its peer bonding [00:21] Quiznos: not long ago someone told me to "google for it on yahoo" [00:21] lol [00:21] oh man [00:21] then there's the jfg.com or someth like that [00:21] come to myspace and twitter my yahoo till i google all over your facebook [00:21] I'm almost convinced that sarcasm1337 is jeev [00:21] lol [00:22] sarcasm1337 can i tell em plsplspls? [00:22] jeev is bant fail [00:22] jeev knew truth though [00:22] I bet Quiznos is jeev too [00:22] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [00:22] nop; i'm singular not bifurcated [00:22] Wow.. I think that confirms it. [00:22] I bet these three people are the same pile [00:22] about the zionist overlord [00:22] lol, mayhap [00:22] but i maybe split down the middle with a log of butter [00:22] Quiznos is in Florida tho [00:22] that is legion [00:23] sarcasm1337 is in Georgia or smthin [00:23] sarcasm1337 lemme tell em who you were [00:23] dunno where jeev is [00:23] Quiznos, like you can even begin to know [00:23] yes [00:23] fail [00:23] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] superGear: jeev is in here, his nick anyway. and sarcasm1337 is not registered. [00:23] you were SirBobDobbs [00:24] Quiznos, we knew that [00:24] dont make me grep your ass in my logs [00:24] omg and before that and befoer that and before that and before that [00:24] i'll find you [00:24] lol [00:24] this is new isp, i have 6 now [00:24] superGear your edges are too ruff [00:25] anyway slackware rules! [00:25] Nick change: sarcasm1337 -> SarcasticIrony [00:25] both ip's are in different states. [00:26] ,,, [00:26] you my firned are an idiot [00:26] crap; i'm hungry [00:26] reverse shows ga.charter.com [00:26] GA probably mean Georgia at first guest. [00:26] yeah [00:26] it is [00:26] omg hax [00:26] only has SSH open [00:27] I probably am within reasonable driving distance [00:27] agentc0re: or, Go Away. :P [00:27] and a flawed version too [00:27] no; it means Gallium Arsenide [00:27] fire|bird: it's a combined meaning. [00:27] :) [00:27] semi flawed at least [00:27] antiwire, get to work [00:27] not my system, do your best [00:27] antiwire: 40G of 160G [00:27] fire|bird: you should have left the dd running overnight, last night [00:27] fire|bird: I'm about to try to boot in qemu now [00:28] fire|bird which transport proto are you using to get that 160gb? [00:28] fire|bird: the sysprep'd image [00:28] Urchlay: this is the second time now. :P [00:28] fire|bird: you were 70 of 160 earlier? [00:28] antiwire: cool [00:28] Rat409: yeah, this is a second time [00:28] i take it no joy yet? [00:29] Rat409: Well the image worked, but it wouldn't work in qemu, so now I sysprepped it and am dd'ing it again. [00:29] cool [00:30] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] fire|bird: fail [00:31] epic fail [00:31] antiwire: dang, what happened? [00:31] bluescreened on boot with the sysprep'd image [00:31] antiwire: Ick. [00:31] ouch [00:32] that sucks [00:32] antiwire: How'd you run sysprep? [00:32] actually wait [00:32] round 2 [00:32] nope no good [00:33] antiwire: I've run it doing, "sysprep --reseal -mini -quite -reboot" [00:33] Arenics (n=Arenics@189.105.244.72) joined ##slackware. [00:33] let's see if the original disk is hosed too. this will show if it was a sysprep issue or a qemu issue [00:33] few mins [00:34] brb [00:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Here I go!"). [00:34] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:34] lol, "Here I go!" [00:34] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [00:35] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:35] agentc0re: :D [00:37] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) left irc: "Leaving" [00:37] agentc0re: In Quassel and Konversation (and maybe other) irc clients, if you kick someone, the default message is "Kindergarten is Elsewhere!" :P [00:40] wd (n=wd@adsl-71-137-245-82.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] alright, nothing wrong with the sysprep image. qemu is just not happy about it [00:40] ah, so maybe fixable? [00:40] user8937 (n=user0432@99.138.183.95) left irc: "Leaving" [00:41] damn opera faulted, nothing in syslog [00:41] hello all.. i made my first package usind the checkinstall..slackware is awesome! [00:41] *using* [00:41] interesting that my wireless moose has a power switch [00:42] hi wd; where's your tail? [00:42] Quiznos: with me. [00:42] ok [00:46] wireless moose? I never knew moose were corded to begin with. [00:46] yea; well I abhor mice; unworthy of their `u' [00:46] so i close the loop [00:47] Action: fire|bird hands Quiznos a dictionary, good grief. [00:47] those are fun [00:47] is there a stripe across your chest? [00:48] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d75-158-165-33.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [00:50] Woo, r2 [00:50] Legendre (n=bela@chef.nerp.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] howdy ho slackereenos [00:51] long time?? =) [00:51] yippy kai yay, Legendre [00:51] doubt anyone here even remembers old me.. [00:51] Is ananke around any more? [00:52] he left for ubuntu [00:52] lol [00:52] well let me tell you kiddy.. back in my day, we, well, uh... I need another blanket [00:53] cmair (n=cmair@host124-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:53] ananke: is still in ##Linux [00:53] really.. PS [00:53] nods [00:54] PurpleSmurf: he's still in here too. :P [00:54] I am Quiznos [00:54] ananke is still in ##slackware [00:54] let me buzz him.. [00:54] yea yea [00:54] PurpleSmurf is giving up slackware for Kubuntu [00:54] liar :) [00:54] who? [00:54] i use this nick when i'm in the gooey [00:55] sudo apt-get remove PurpleSmurf-Slackware && apt-get install PurpleSmurf-Kubuntu [00:55] lol [00:55] and fire|bird is quitting linux altogether and going to start using Windows Me full time [00:55] OHGODWHY [00:55] apt-get is trendy [00:55] heh [00:55] trendy? :P [00:56] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [00:56] slapt-get [00:56] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:56] is [00:56] evil [00:56] If you're an Ubunutard, maybe. [00:56] heh [00:56] good to hear he's still around. Just as cranky as ever, I can only hope? [00:56] he's a nice guy [00:56] Legendre: i think he's mellowed abit [00:56] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.39.139) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:56] he has matured [00:56] 7 years ago ananke wasnt so douchy [00:56] heh, yeah.. I'm just joshing... [00:57] smart fucker. Good guy to know, if YOU needed to know.. [00:57] nods [00:57] now he thinks he wins when he gets you k-lined...as you shrug [00:57] no-nonsense type, I can appreciate that [00:57] typical irc ladder climbing kid [00:57] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) joined ##slackware. [00:58] anyway, tel him HI if I don't catch him.. that's a big old kick-back to .... 1998?? [00:58] 1999? [00:58] memo him yerself [00:58] I don't know how. [00:58] lol [00:58] ./msg memoserv send ananke text [00:58] long story, let me try.. [00:59] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:00] damn, my klclock is off by 1d2min [01:00] kclock [01:00] ntpdate [01:00] ntpd for the win [01:00] running [01:00] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:01] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] so are the kids still into the Linux these days? [01:01] i gotta tweak bios on next book [01:01] naw [01:01] kids are into BSD and OS X [01:01] ntpd -s [01:01] like fire|bird [01:02] Legendre: i've been a slacker since '95, i think i qualify as a adult now [01:02] yeah, the moz firebird was pretty cool. whatever happened with that thing? [01:02] :> [01:02] went into firefox [01:02] Quiznos: question. i dl'd a src, filled out the slackbuild template with src info,i made a dir "src_dir" and i placed the completed slackbuild template along with the src.tar.gz, i su to root, then x the slackbuild, did ./configure src.SlackBuild and got error tar: /tmp/toshutils/toshiba-2.0.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory. [01:02] superGear: you should know Mr. Windows 3.1 rocks this c2d. :D [01:02] no...! [01:02] really? [01:02] sorry guys don't kick me [01:02] Legendre: firebird is what is now firefox, that changed AGES ago. [01:02] wd: i'mhere now [01:02] Action: fire|bird kicks wd [01:02] Legendre just got out of prison [01:03] fire|bird: yeah, I'm just jacking around.. I'll stop wasting BW now =) Promise-U [01:03] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:03] brixton- (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:03] wd (n=wd@adsl-71-137-245-82.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:03] superGear: I thought I had seen his face on a poster somewhere, now that explains it. [01:03] Action: Legendre runs around in circles [01:03] :( wd quit? [01:03] fire|bird: why did you kick wd? [01:04] or did you? [01:04] he doesnt like flirting [01:04] PurpleSmurf: I didn't kick him, I'm not an op here. [01:04] ok [01:04] superGear: you might otherwise know me as 'Squeaky' and I'll leave it at that. [01:04] i know nobody [01:04] I'm not old skool [01:04] good [01:05] tho i am old [01:05] Squeaky? so you're bozo the clowns nose? [01:05] cough cough.. Manson Family.. cough cough [01:05] not that old [01:05] lol [01:05] suck at humor. yawn [01:05] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:05] u suck @ life [01:05] perhaps [01:06] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:06] SarcasticIrony: pfft.. what do you know about humor. [01:06] I've been humoring mankind since you were just a knock-knock joke [01:06] enough to say FAMILY GUY SUCKS [01:06] lotta AM atmospheric RIF this morning [01:06] PurpleSmurf, www.haarp.alaska.edu [01:06] who cares about Family Guy? [01:06] SarcasticIrony: oddly, I have to completely agree with you [01:07] SarcasticIrony: what'st hat? [01:07] Alaska [01:07] so i watched The CORE last night [01:07] i know that; and what haarp is, but what's the url for? [01:07] pr0n [01:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:07] hollywood's doomsday device DESTINY is actually haarp, same technology located in alaska ..i lol'd [01:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [01:08] WB fire|bird [01:08] We missed you [01:08] PurpleSmurf, just check it, then check the magnetosphere and solar image [01:08] awww, thanks. [01:08] :P [01:08] explain your anomaly noob [01:09] yeah, noob! [01:09] yeaH! [01:10] annnnd firebird times out in 3 2 [01:11] so? [01:11] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:12] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Client Quit [01:12] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:12] SarcasticIrony: ah; ok [01:13] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Arenics: what? [01:14] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [01:14] antiwire: haha [01:14] :) [01:14] you need to stop that shit [01:14] lol [01:14] SarcasticIrony: am sig sounds like it cleared up; muta bin badCloud moving :0 [01:14] you must be cool :) [01:14] musta [01:14] damn, cant type [01:14] you act as you're doing something wrong ^^ [01:14] 72G done, getting closer. :P [01:15] yay [01:15] I act like I'm doing something wrong? [01:15] antiwire: :) [01:15] I don't go ctcp versioning people every month [01:15] you realize that is has been almost exactly 1 month since you did that the last time for no reason? [01:15] antiwire: lol dude, I just did it to abuse you :) [01:16] next time I might have a gift for you in my version string [01:16] :( [01:16] antiwire: aside from the ying yang ;) [01:16] superGear can suck it too [01:16] :P [01:16] hehehehe [01:17] antiwire: heh, that suck it comment reminded me of that dell commercial "lollipop, lollipop...." :P [01:19] Arenics: so now you're versioning me now too? What the...... [01:19] bother is what I meant when I said 'abuse' [01:19] :) [01:19] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.221.182.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [01:20] dulipak (n=dulipak@114.120.71.222) joined ##slackware. [01:22] Arenics: So you admit to trolling a user via CTCP? [01:22] dulipak (n=dulipak@114.120.71.222) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [01:22] superGear: FINGER ? lol [01:22] Dominian: I don't know what 'trolling' stands for [01:22] but probally the answer of this is yes [01:23] scandir() faildir() [01:23] to a few apparently [01:23] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:24] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [01:24] hey, we're all quilty of hammering a site from time to time, but we no trolls :-) [01:24] t0f: this is different than hammering a site. :) [01:25] wtfruonaboot? [01:25] true [01:25] fire|bird is the biggest troll! [01:25] superGear: w8 a minute pls [01:25] I'm scanning your system [01:25] lol [01:25] ... [01:25] superGear: you should talk: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/PHANCP13.html :D [01:26] nice [01:26] wtf mang [01:26] CTCP 'SEX' lol! [01:26] crapcrapcrap; opera wont print to file at all [01:26] Opera is crap :P [01:27] and it wont allow saving of chats [01:27] some people need to grow the fuck up? [01:27] i hate stoopit sw [01:27] damn c0ders [01:27] PurpleSmurf: yeah it will, File ---> Save. :O [01:28] superGear: did you setup your ipchains or now slackware already comes with it up ? [01:28] Texas [01:28] ipchains? [01:28] fire|bird: well that's unintuitive [01:28] fire|bird: ty [01:28] dive: gtk-chtheme [01:28] what kernel you using 2.2? [01:28] fire|bird, yes? [01:28] PurpleSmurf: File ---> Save. unintuitive, makes perfect sense to me. [01:28] dive: whoops, :P. It built now. [01:28] hit enter at the wrong spot [01:28] ok good [01:29] fire|bird: unintuitive bc it's not in the right-clicked menu for chat [01:29] oh for crying out loud, go complain in #opera then. :P [01:29] cmair (n=cmair@host124-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:29] null pointer linux's kernel bus is already fixed ? [01:29] they dont care [01:29] bug* [01:29] you using opera for irc? [01:29] neither do I [01:29] dive yea [01:29] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] bart9h (i=bd185e10@gateway/web/freenode/x-c8141146ba51de33) left ##slackware. [01:29] HI nix_chix0r ! [01:29] . [01:30] hai [01:30] hai [01:30] Opera for IRC ... [01:30] hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [01:30] superGear: PM? [01:30] why PM? [01:30] i'm ok how are you guys [01:30] er.. just q uestion [01:30] hi nix_chix0r [01:30] I don't know anything [01:30] hi [01:30] ask fire|bird [01:30] nix_chix0r, can't get scandir() to work :| [01:30] fire|bird, http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=1z4bgg0&s=3 [01:30] umm its not about slackware [01:31] dive: Opera irc is actually quite nice. They are working on better irc logging, just not implemented yet. [01:31] irssi ftw [01:31] Dominian: ++, nothing beats it [01:31] I don't like multi application applications [01:31] ask away, since you're freenode staff i be guessing it's bad or smthin [01:32] nix_chix0r: :), He's so cute, and wow is he getting big. How old now? [01:32] opera would be better off fixing the bugs in the web browser instead of making irc [01:32] 5months on the 18th [01:32] dive: what bugs have you experienced in the web browser [01:33] pump, pump your penis, pump it up [01:33] where is thrice`, is he still alive [01:33] superGear: nah [01:33] fire|bird, freezing up when typing in address bar, some annoying no ight click on bookmarks (ok not a bug just an annoyance) and I forget the others [01:33] raymondmendoza (n=raymondm@cpe-67-241-90-254.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:34] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d75-158-165-33.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:34] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:34] dive: ok, just curious. :) [01:34] 65.113.15.181 [01:34] Arenics, what about it? [01:35] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:35] you showing off your new ip? [01:35] sry I've pressed mouse's mid buttom [01:35] invitation to nmap Ä [01:35] ok lol [01:35] lol [01:35] :) [01:36] nmap? pff.. I'm in the middle of a nessus scan on it ^_^ [01:36] where are the 'tux - fem' images? [01:36] wow, i just had an extreme desire for ny roast beef [01:37] it's superGear IP [01:37] lol [01:37] quasar, it's probably cia hq [01:37] Legendre (n=bela@chef.nerp.net) left irc: "Changing server" [01:37] dchmelik: i said fem-tux [01:37] damnit ;) [01:37] \o/ [01:37] I'm on a shared IP [01:37] Arenics: You're bragging you got that why? [01:37] ok, PurpleSmurf [01:37] dive: lets hope so, I've been trying to contact them for weeks! [01:37] a simple /whois reveals it [01:37] what kind of service run at 1720 ? [01:37] oooo major hacker there [01:37] so what ya scanned may or may not be my actual PC [01:37] dchmelik: quiznos here [01:37] and i don't have any services running [01:38] Dominian: he sent to me an FINGER ctcp request [01:38] so it would be other peoples PC [01:38] I was testing somethings here now [01:38] Arenics: and? [01:38] OMG A FINGER [01:38] you got fingred [01:38] fingered* [01:38] Finger is like does nothing [01:38] superGear: to someone who doesn't know any better.. you're a hacker [01:38] :P [01:39] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [01:39] gaaah! [01:39] wait.. hacker or h4x0r? [01:39] i did ctcp sex too doesn't mean i wanna sex him [01:39] right Ä [01:39] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [01:39] Dominian: I speaks a really very skilled hacker to me [01:39] mathematically/physically/logically it *must* be possible to put strings on a guitar, if I just took old strings off it... right? *right?* [01:39] speaks like* [01:40] I wonder if you can ctcp buffer overflow someone? [01:40] Urchlay, easy [01:40] start at e and work up [01:40] /ctcp ##slackware +++ATH0 [01:40] er.. [01:41] Dominian: to me a finger ctcp request would work if the host were running an finger daemon [01:41] Urchlay, it does help if you've done it before though [01:41] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:41] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] i cannot find fingerd on Slackware [01:41] Arenics, I think you can configure a finger reply in irc prog [01:42] I have put strings on at least 50 guitars/basses in my time [01:42] this one has a completely bizarra bridge/tailpiece arrangement [01:42] hmm [01:42] acoustic or elec? [01:43] hollowbody electric. Basically a cheap knockoff BB King style guitar. [01:43] right [01:43] never done one of those [01:43] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: "brb" [01:43] the tailpiece somehow has a slot or something where it's supposed to catch the ball at the end of the string. And it works, because it took 20 minutes to convince it to let go of the old strings [01:43] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/Dominian) joined ##slackware. [01:44] you can't *see* the slot/whatever because it's under the tailpiece [01:44] eck [01:44] the low E is stiff enough I was able to wiggle it around until it caught [01:44] the high E just flops around, I can't feel where it's supposed to go, and without x-ray vision I can't find it [01:45] that's a strane setup [01:45] lemme see... [01:47] I think by now I'd be taking the tail plate off [01:47] well I can't easily find an image of it, or I'd show you [01:48] the tailpiece could come off, but the screws are already stripped (and they're extra-long wood screws I don't have replacements for) [01:48] take a pic front & back & post :D [01:48] also: the bridge is a separate piece, it is not attached (it's held in place by string tension). If I remove the tailpiece, the bridge will just fall off. I'll have to make a mark or something so I'll know where it's supposed to go :( [01:49] I've never touched a semi-acoustic.. [01:50] I played this one a lot when I first got it [01:50] I *thought* I'd changed the strings (that's the first thing I do on buying any guitar) [01:50] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-79-021.vntc.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:52] arenics.agilityhoster.com [01:52] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-79-021.vntc.ru) left irc: Client Quit [01:53] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-79-021.vntc.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:55] tailpiece removed. The ball of the old high E was stuck in there still (I took it off first, it broke, I forgot) [01:55] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:55] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:55] Nexxus (n=vex@208.69.211.196) joined ##slackware. [01:55] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[02:00] then the drivers should be there... it is probably only a matter of configuring wpa_supplicant [02:00] ok ill check it out [02:00] someone helped me do it either here or on linuxquestions.org [02:00] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:01] is it easy to do? [02:01] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:02] relatively [02:04] if you search for my nick and wireless on linuxquestions.org you will find a link someone posted to configuring wpa_supplicant [02:04] in that thread [02:04] but it might also be in TLDP [02:05] PurpleSmurf, is this the sort of thing you were talking about: http://www.flashdance.cx/linux-bsd-babes/ ? [02:05] i would rather find something that is not fake [02:07] Nexxus: perhaps this will help: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wpa_encryption [02:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:07] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:08] fire|bird (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Here I go!"). [02:08] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [02:09] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:09] draeath|away (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) joined ##slackware. [02:09] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:09] draeath|away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [02:10] zee mighty boot fliez! [02:10] haha [02:10] lol [02:11] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@66.33.206.8) joined ##slackware. [02:11] draeath (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) joined ##slackware. [02:11] ".same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'." [02:11] so how does one do that? [02:12] draeath: /away [02:12] Yet when I do that, I get /msg by people anyways. [02:12] bad coding though it took your nickname to be an away setting [02:12] draeath: yes and? [02:13] draeath: they will get a message that you are away. [02:13] draeath: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html [02:13] so, theres no good solution. so you set a ban mask to kick people who try to use one that will only print a channel status message (that is easily filtered) [02:13] just don't go away [02:13] stay @ pc 24/7 [02:13] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:13] lol I wish I could superGear [02:13] draeath: yes there is a good solution. just use /away with a reason and don't change your nick. [02:14] people who pm you will see you're away. [02:14] fine... im just grumpy about the auto-kicking [02:14] that stuff pisses me off no matter the reason for it [02:14] draeath: [02:14] or if you don't respond they know you are away [02:15] draeath: "People do not assume that you're hovering there over your keyboard drooling over the next message to come down the pipe, or that you've got an 802.11 connection jacked straight into your skull just so you can instantly respond to their off-topic Enlightenment configuration questions at any time of the day. " [02:15] BP{k}: heh, says who? [02:15] Action: PurpleSmurf dro0ls [02:16] since i posted that link, eh PurpleSmurf? [02:16] PurpleSmurf: heh. [02:16] dchmelik: what link? [02:16] PurpleSmurf: you do that? is your keyboard under water (or drool)? [02:16] I just don't see the big deal about nick changing. Blame your client for not letting you ignore that. Setting up autokicks for such a thing just seems rude. [02:17] heh; i have a rollable usb kbd for just such conditions [02:17] hahaha [02:17] or coffee spillage [02:18] 115G done of ye ol dd imaging [02:18] fire|bird: yay; you dint answer my prev q; on what kind of wire are bits traveling? [02:18] fire|bird, where are you from? [02:18] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [02:19] hey guys i need to know [02:19] GOIL!!! [02:19] fire|bird: you should use 'ddrescue' you can output to a 'log' file so you can pick up where you left off on interruptions [02:19] how come slackware crrent is so much smaller than 12.1? [02:19] webbi (n=webi@190.247.201.22) joined ##slackware. [02:19] fire|bird: also, it handles read/write problems better :P [02:19] hello... the problematic guy is back [02:19] better compiler? [02:19] xz? [02:19] better compression? [02:19] that's unlikely tho [02:20] i have a question, but a light one [02:20] anyone? :( [02:20] Action: PurpleSmurf prepares [02:20] webbi: don't ask meta questions. [02:20] HLD ON [02:20] missyjane: tgz -> txz is my guess [02:20] PurpleSmurf: sorry, USB [02:20] agh. If I were being paid to be a guitar tech, I'd probably be fired. [02:20] missyjane: probably due to everything being compressed with xz. [02:20] i dont understnad, what do you mean quasar? [02:20] julioc (i=1000@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) left irc: "Saindo" [02:21] draeath: yeah, but I don't need that in this case. [02:21] really? it makes that much difference? [02:21] missyjane: yes. [02:21] yep [02:21] ok [02:21] i was just scared, ty guys and wish me luck [02:21] missyjane: I thought you were going to bed anyway lol [02:21] fire|bird: really? 119gb is a lot. I would hate to see it stop for some reason and you have to start over, or figure out the dd parameters to resume it [02:21] i have configured dynamic dhcp/dns with success in my server... now i have a linux box that when it request the ip, it does not have a "name"... so i cant ping it by it's name... where is that info? [02:21] quasar, i did, i just woke up [02:21] webbi: isp has it and wont share [02:21] test [02:21] webbi: get acct at dyndns site [02:22] draeath: nah, it's going just fine, it's just an image of my laptop hdd and it's 115G out of 160G [02:22] antiwire: fail [02:22] webbi, did we not talk about you having to set up inadyn or something? [02:22] antiwire: I'll soon know if mine goes BSOD on me too. :) [02:22] How can I be sure that ssh will work from the internet? [02:22] PurpleSmurf: nono, i mean the host name... for example, a windows box have configured as "pc name" webbi01, when it request the ip, my dhcp server generate a zone for it, webi01.internallan.wcd [02:22] How do you test for that? [02:22] try to version now suckers [02:23] Keiffer: ssh to whatever box you are testing from? [02:23] webbi: yea yea; get dyndns acct [02:23] but that does not happen with the other linux box, and i dont know where that info is kept [02:23] it is not kept until you set it up [02:23] PurpleSmurf: no... i have one in zoneedit, but that's not my point... [02:23] dchmelik: how can i set it up? [02:23] yea it is :) [02:23] Keiffer: don't know about you, but I've been using it over the internet for years [02:23] antiwire: lol [02:23] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] :) [02:23] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: No route to host [02:23] BP{k}, yes. I configured it, and teste only locally. [02:23] Action: quasar stabs the ; key. [02:24] PurpleSmurf, i thought he was talking about getting a domain name with dynamic dns [02:24] Action: PurpleSmurf hunts for clueBat [02:24] just in case [02:24] in that case it is not kept until you set it up [02:24] antiwire: I'm your fan dude :P [02:24] dchmelik: i'm mentioning it cuz he wants *.webb.someht.* [02:24] alisonken1noc, i never used it [02:24] it's like the "pc name" but to use locally in my lan [02:24] you have to put it in /etc/hosts [02:24] and maybe on your LAN server [02:24] webbi: how's your lan connected? [02:24] Keiffer: if used with proper keys and setup, you can even use ssh without login requests [02:25] dchmelik: hmmm i think i did that [02:25] PurpleSmurf: ISP -> SERVER -> HUB -> 4 pc's [02:25] you mean /etc/hosts on the server? [02:25] webbi: ok [02:25] dchmelik: no, on the linux box that does not work [02:25] whatever you do, do not use an iptables string match [02:25] webbi: is hub a router or switch? [02:25] alisonken1home, i will use putty, rsa keys [02:25] PurpleSmurf: switch sorry [02:25] ok [02:25] Keiffer: that works too [02:26] uuuuh, if you are putting it on a box that does not work instead of the server it does not sound like it will do anything [02:26] PurpleSmurf: the server do everything, route, firewall, http, etc [02:26] webbi: big blue two line-o-eth holes? [02:26] just remember to put your public key in your remote machine's auth_key file [02:26] for your login [02:26] fire|bird: So I just checked at work the images and I was mistaken. I was thinking the -img dir was the actaul file. It did multizip the files like you said. [02:26] PurpleSmurf: what you mean? [02:26] alisonken1noc, and how do I find that? in windows? [02:27] LF4: ok, thanks for checking. [02:27] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:27] webbi: slimline ethernet blue box of eth ports [02:27] carmodi (n=k@S010600179a266a4b.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:27] fire|bird: no problem so how is the whole process going for you? [02:27] PurpleSmurf: yes [02:27] ok [02:28] LF4: going alright, the image turned out well, but qemu didn't work with it, so I'm imaging it again now after sysprepping it. [02:28] PurpleSmurf: but the dhcp server is from my server, not from that [02:28] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [02:28] Keiffer: not sure since I don't use putty on a regular basis - but I think what you would do is use your remote server's ~/.ssh/rsa_key.pub key for your putty session key [02:28] webbi: so blue has handles 192.168.* (right) internally to lan and you want that zone (192.168.*) to be named? [02:28] fire|bird: Oh that's to bad. [02:28] LF4: 122G of 160G done. :) [02:28] the client needs the private key [02:28] webbi: machines are named, not networks (not intentionally) [02:29] LF4: windows started in qemu before, but the mouse and keyboard don't work. [02:29] mancha: private key is supposed to be for the local machine only - not passed around [02:29] alisonken1noc, yes, i know that. thanks [02:29] Arenics (n=Arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "I luv you all :D ! lol" [02:29] alison, the one doing the connecting posseses the private key [02:29] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [02:29] in this case that is putty on windows [02:29] PurpleSmurf: yes, it's working... with a windows pc which have configured his "lan name", but the linux one dont, so it appear that does not have a "lan name" or "host name" i dont know how to call it [02:30] fire|bird: Oh cool, lol different drivers in windows. lol [02:30] hosts are individual boxes [02:30] i agree though, you shoulnd't pass your privkey around, certianly not to shady types [02:30] mancha: well, since I don't use windows mahines or putty, I will defer to your putty setup. all of my connections are pretty much linux<->linux, so that's the only setup I'm familiar with [02:31] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:31] PurpleSmurf is right: that is why you have to write their names in /etc/hosts on the dhcp server [02:31] alison, it is similar in linux->linux. the connecitng machine (the client) has the privkey [02:31] well, no... because i have not wroted the name of the other pc's [02:31] Action: PurpleSmurf bows :)~ [02:31] it's automatically added by dhcp to the dns zones [02:31] webbi, that is what i am saying you must do [02:31] i like being right, better than being wrong. [02:32] mancha: does putty generate a public/private key pair? [02:32] webbi, do they get different dhcp numbers when they turn on and off? [02:32] alison, it can if you want it to, putty-gen i think it is called [02:32] it also understands openssh keypairs though [02:32] you might have to set up a dynamic dns server on your dchp server if you still want them to have names that way [02:32] ok - that setup I could probably fitgure out then [02:33] dchmelik: no, because it stores it mac addr, so always got the same, but i dont want to put in host the ip with the name... i installed dynamic dns to have it done automatically [02:33] alisonken1noc: puttygen can [02:33] dchmelik: i have it installed [02:33] dchmelik: i have dynamic dns working [02:33] oops [02:33] dchmelik: it works with all pc's here, except that linux box [02:33] you do not need dynamic dns if you are using their mac addresses [02:33] you just need an /etc/hosts [02:34] I don't understand something. I need 2 pairs of keys to connect to my own pc? I really need to connect on it in 2 hrs and wanna be sure if it will work [02:34] i know of no automatic way to do it on Slackware [02:34] dchmelik: dynamic dns do it [02:34] but if they always get the same ip address, what is dynamic about that? [02:34] dchmelik: suppose you have a pc with windows (it's more easy to explain for me)... when you install it, you set a "computer name on network" [02:35] i thought we were talking about your Linux one [02:35] Keiffer: for public/private keypairs - each machine has a public and a private. the one that wants to connect offers it's public key to the remote. on reply, the remote offers it's public key to the client [02:35] webbi: you trying to set the hostname? [02:35] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.221.182.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] dchmelik: then, when that pc retrieves an ip from my dhcp server, it tooks that name and add a dns entry for that pc, so if the name is win01, the entry will be win01.internallan.something for example [02:35] this way traffic in both directions is encrypted differently, but can be read only by the other end with the public key of the other [02:35] Keiffer: if you need to use putty to connect to your linux ssh server you need to convert the openssh keys into putty format keys [02:35] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-79-021.vntc.ru) left irc: Success [02:35] LF4: he wants to set several hostnames on a network [02:35] the putty porject has all of the tools [02:36] dchmelik: not really [02:36] webbi, well do you have all but one set then? [02:36] dchmelik: yes [02:36] Keiffer: http://linux-sxs.org/networking/openssh.putty.html [02:36] webbi, are they going to stay with the numbers and names they have? [02:37] dchmelik: maybe yes, maybe no [02:37] dchmelik: if i change one nic card, it will change [02:37] evo- (n=evo@wrzb-5f75a31a.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [02:37] dchmelik: and got a new ip [02:37] Keiffer: if you already have keys just do the copy over and convert part [02:37] ok, well last time i asked that you said no because you are using MAC addresses [02:37] that makes some sense [02:38] dchmelik: well, because dhcp use their mac address to keep the same ip, but that could change [02:38] webbi: see the -H and -h options in "man dhcpcd" maybe, they look relevant [02:38] Urchlay: ok [02:38] Urchlay, just finished that irssi scandir patch Ä [02:38] webbi, so you just want a dynamic DNS to do all this in case you change it? I do not know how to set up dynamic DNS. [02:39] anyway i just lost connection to that box [02:39] i do not know if Slackware even has one... probably though [02:39] i think it blow up [02:39] did you try dnsmasq or something [02:39] I do know the standard ISC dhcpcd client can do the job, at least with a standard ISC dhcpd server. If your DHCP/DNS server is windows, no idea whether it can be made to work or not [02:40] dchmelik: slackbuilds.org has ddclient, but not sure about ddserver [02:40] by the way, the word is "hostname", it sounds ever so much more professional than "computer name on network" :) [02:40] it's easy to setup [02:41] Urchlay: i know, but that linux box have a hostname, but it's not being retrieved by dhcpd when it request an ip [02:41] i thought dnsmasq can do dns for a local network [02:41] webbi: because dhcp assigns hostname maybe? [02:41] dchmelik: you just need to add some lines to dhcpd.conf and named.conf and that's all [02:42] there are 2 ways it can be set up: either the DHCP server assigns the hostname, or the client tells the server "this is my hostname" [02:42] haven't tested that part since I usually make sure I assign the same hostname on the computer as I put in the dhcp.conf file [02:42] alisonken1noc: assign? it might retrieve the hostname from the hosts, because it show me the hostname of the computers that request an ip [02:42] i think all you have to do is maybe start bind [02:42] dchmelik: sounds like he already has a DNS server [02:43] Urchlay: yes i said that before [02:43] dchmelik: i have dns and dhcp working... also dinamically [02:43] webbi: and that DNS server is windows, running MS DNS server, or whatever it's called? [02:43] the problem is one box that appear to not have a "hostname" but that's weird [02:43] Urchlay: bind on slack 12 [02:44] Urchlay: same server have dhcp and bind running [02:44] Keiffer: after you convert the private key to a putty format you need to also set your username in putty: left hand pane > connection > data: autologin username [02:44] you may also have to start bind or something on the host you want to have a name to have it find its own name [02:44] ah, in that case, it definitely can be made to work (even though I don't remember how, it's been 5+ years since I ever did this) [02:44] Keiffer: then it will autologin using key auth [02:45] that's what i wanted to explain.... i have 4 pc's... suppose hostnames: w1, w2, w3 and w4... [02:45] when "w1" retrieves an ip (refresh ip), the dhcp server retrieves the hostname and add a new zone, w1.mylan.webbi [02:45] so i can ping w1.mylan.webbi and it resolves to the ip to that host [02:46] but you said it does not work, right? [02:46] dchmelik: it works [02:46] dchmelik: it just fails with one pc [02:46] dchmelik: with slack 8 or 9 [02:46] do you have it working on any other GNU/Linux ones? [02:46] dchmelik: yes, one pc have ubuntu [02:47] dchmelik: so... where should i set that hostname retrieved by dhcp? [02:47] did you check if the dhcp client is working on the Slackware? [02:47] dchmelik: yes it works [02:47] maybe in /etc/hosts on the Slackware box you want to have a host name [02:47] but if you said you already have dynamic DNS setting it I am not sure [02:47] it should be working if the dhcp client works [02:48] dchmelik: you mean add the hostname to the 127.0.0.1 line on /etc/hosts ? [02:48] dhcpcd can be set to send any DHCP hostname you want [02:48] usually you'd want that to match the actual hostname though [02:48] you could try that, but actually i do not think it is the solution [02:48] webbi: have you tried setting the hosts file on the machine that doesn't work to have a link to the DHCP server? [02:48] LF4: well, not really, because the ubuntu one works fine [02:48] LF4: and i did nothing on that [02:49] on slackware, you set the client's dhcp hostname in rc.inet1.conf using: DHCP_HOSTNAME[#]="NAME_HERE" [02:49] antiwire: crap... let me check that [02:50] antiwire, but it should not matter what the box thinks it is, right, just the server? [02:50] if your dhcpd server is setup for updating dns, it will use that hostname [02:50] antiwire, ok. thanks [02:50] I have disabled pass auth, i hope is ok [02:50] dchmelik: the dhcpd server will take the hostname that the client's dhcpcd client software sends and update dns with that [02:50] antiwire: that's exactly what i was looking for [02:51] sorry guys by confusion, my english is so bad, and sometimes i dont know how to express what i think or need [02:51] thanks for your help [02:53] dchmelik: it doesn't matter but there are some cases when it would matter [02:53] and for consistency sake, then it really matters ;) [02:53] things like apache [02:53] sendmail [02:53] yeah, that is neat [02:53] (what you explained) [02:54] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [02:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:54] well i have configured the server with: nat, firewall, router, dhcp, http, mysql, dns and sendmail... now let's see what happen on reboot [02:55] antiwire: i have never seen a isp's dhcpd accept the hostname I send it. [02:55] we aren't talking about ISPs [02:55] PurpleSmurf: i think that the dhcp server can force it [02:55] ok [02:55] we are talking about a lan [02:55] and an ISP would use it's own hostmask anyway [02:55] yea [02:55] its [02:57] well, it appear to works fine now [02:57] thanks again ! [02:58] now i just need to see how can i do to share the hp psc1410 from cups to windows, as far as i read, its not supported :S [03:00] webbi: use the "microsoft document imager" or whatever its called, under the 'generic' windows printer drivers [03:00] webbi: that will use postscript to your CUPS server, and CUPS will then talk to the printer [03:00] I do this myself. [03:01] you create a network printer, and give it the cups URL: http://yourhost:631/printers/YourPrinter [03:01] it should "just work" [03:01] draeath: ohh... i was looking for which driver to select... i will try what you say [03:01] draeath: that's a nice tip [03:01] well I'll be damned. This guitar actually sounds slightly better than hammered dogcrap [03:01] (I know, offtopic...) [03:02] ok gn folks [03:02] banish him!!!! [03:02] webbi: sometimes you have trouble with the bottom margin extending beyond the paper... but I have that problem with linux too! I think it's my cups driver (have to use foo2zjs) [03:02] i used to own an Ovation guitar; sweet sounds [03:02] they hatess usss :( [03:02] gone. [03:02] PurpleSmurf: those are usually nice. I played one last week that sounded great [03:03] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [03:03] Morning all [03:03] eh, except it's got a loose wire in the jack so you had to be careful not to move or it'd go *bzzzzt* *skkrach* [03:03] Urchlay, I just submitted a scandir() patch to irssi feature requests. Thanks for the info on scandir(). :-) [03:03] draeath: ms pusblisher color printer or ms publisher imagesetter ? [03:04] imagesetter - I believe it lets you set it for color if you need that. [03:04] I wouldn't know, I've only done this with b&w laserjets [03:04] dive: seriously? nice! [03:04] draeath: ok going to try [03:04] yeah Ä [03:04] dive: nice smiley :P [03:04] Urchlay, I should get back into C [03:05] dive: scandir() is a GNU libc extension I think... did you put feature-test macros in there? (#ifdef _GNU_SOURCE...) [03:05] thanks, I stole it [03:05] Action: fire|bird reports dive [03:05] Urchlay, I did but apparently I didn't need it [03:05] it was already defined [03:05] actually, I don't think that smiley's in utf-8... I see an a with a tilde over it for the first character [03:05] Ä [03:05] dive: sure, until someone decides to compile irssi on freebsd or solaris :) [03:06] it's some weird character with a curved line and two dots above it [03:06] OpenSolaris has irssi in it's repo's. :) [03:06] draeath: i cant try to print right now, but i will try in a couple of minutes... thanks for the tip! [03:06] Urchlay, I'll let them deal with that ;-) [03:06] welcome [03:07] hm. I think maybe my rxvt isn't running in unicode mode [03:07] (using laptop, not used it much in the past year) [03:07] rxvt doesn't do unicode [03:07] well that would explain that [03:07] rxvt only do unicorn [03:07] rxvt-unicode however does it very well [03:08] hm. If you do a unicorn, so it's not a virgin any more, will it commit suicide? [03:08] so long as you set up a good font list in .Xdefaults [03:08] dive: normally I'm using xterm with utf-8 enabled in .Xdefaults, this laptop's sorta an outdated config [03:08] right [03:09] xterm -u is good [03:09] morning [03:09] y0 slackytude [03:09] hey slackytude [03:09] setting the utf-8 option in .Xdefaults is better (you don't gotta remember the -u) [03:09] y0 fire|bird, LF4 [03:09] and it's funny that in terminal and konsole the colours look wrong, like they are based on 16 colour [03:09] slackytude, mornings [03:09] man, life sucks [03:09] y0 dive [03:09] slackytude: how come? [03:10] Urchlay, yeah I probably have [03:10] LF4: didnt drink my coffee yet [03:10] Action: fire|bird hands slackytude a cup of coffee [03:10] Urchlay, XTerm*utf8: 1 XTerm*locale: UTF-8 [03:10] is that correct? [03:10] hm, terminal color codes are based on the old ANSI scheme, with something like 8 background colors and 16 foreground [03:10] i stopped drinking coffee sometime last week [03:10] slackytude: Oh haha you sound like a co-worker of mine. [03:10] i'm all good now, no caffeine at all [03:11] antiwire: how's that going? [03:11] it sucked at first [03:11] now it's fine [03:11] cool [03:11] LF4: yeah? [03:11] antiwire: O_o [03:11] antiwire: you still live? [03:11] dive: it's what I have, I hope it's not wrong! [03:11] remarkable [03:11] at least it's friday [03:11] yeah, and i didn't go ballistic either [03:11] antiwire: and could you work? [03:11] kiwidude (n=Snake@ip-118-90-87-48.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:12] yeah but the first 3 days i was dragging my ass behind me [03:12] after day 3 it was cool [03:12] slackytude: he is drinking coke now [03:12] antiwire: so, its no more coffee for you now? [03:12] just go cold turkey [03:12] slackytude: light coke [03:12] antiwire, so... alcohol only? [03:12] yeah none, not just coffee not caffeine [03:12] say *what*? [03:12] thats madness! [03:12] beer isn't caffeinated [03:12] Nick change: dchmelik -> caffiend [03:12] lol [03:12] antiwire: tobbaco? [03:12] webbi: i don' [03:13] i don' [03:13] wtf [03:13] antiwire: i do [03:13] antiwire: it's just like coffe [03:13] seriously, caffeine is one of the less-harmful vices [03:13] antiwire: but worst [03:13] slackytude: I did find out that was a double order lol paying for shipping with nothing to ship. [03:13] antiwire: the t worked in wtf :P [03:13] Urchlay: it was making me anxious though [03:13] LF4: oy! sorry, I completly forgot [03:13] tobacco's a lot worse for you, I wish I could quit smoking [03:13] (I say this in between drags on a Pall Mall...) [03:13] Urchlay: i agree [03:14] slackytude: Haha no problem :) I emailed and got a quick response. I would have had to anyways aparently. :P [03:14] Urchlay: if you found a way without being crazy, please let me know [03:14] \o/ 153G left of 160G :D [03:14] I'm waiting for a chance to use this pick up line of a well endowed, smoking woman "you should stop smoking, it's very bad for your chest and a heathy chest is important" while i stare [03:15] Urchlay: wait... maybe if i change the tobbaco with coffe I make it [03:15] hahaha [03:15] Urchlay, you could smoke tobacco steam out of an evaporater [03:15] caffiend: eh, while I'm driving? [03:15] (does that work?) [03:15] fire|bird, are you still dd'ing? [03:15] yes, but that is not what i would want the steam of [03:15] antiwire: Well, you'll either strike gold or get a slap in the face. :P [03:15] lol [03:15] eh, I can't drive stoned. I can't even drive sober all that well... [03:15] dive: yeah, this is a second go around though. [03:15] fire|bird: oh still dd'ing? [03:15] slackytude: yeah, a second go around though. [03:16] almost done. :) [03:16] why? [03:16] slackytude: I syspreped this time, qemu didn't work with the other one [03:16] [08:14] < fire|bird> \o/ 153G left of 160G :D <-- almost done? [03:16] fire|bird: \o/ [03:16] yeah, close. it's up to 154G now [03:16] fire|bird: let me hear how that works out [03:16] eh, 153G *left* or 153G completed so far? [03:16] so it's not 'left' [03:17] slackytude: will do. [03:17] fire|bird: coz Im gonna do the same [03:17] argh, whoops [03:17] 153G DONE [03:17] haha [03:17] anybody here using zenwalk? [03:17] fire|bird: and while you were doing that, I finally managed to repair my old guitar! [03:17] Urchlay: nice [03:17] never *ever* leave a guitar in the basement for 10 years [03:18] I won't be testing this one tonight because it takes 2 hours to transfer from external hdd to pc, so that will be a project for tomorrow. [03:18] slackytude: got kde 4.3 done today. [03:18] eh, and probably this would have been good advice for me, 10+ years ago: never buy a guitar without individually-adjustable bridge saddles. Grr. [03:18] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] webbi: nope, if we were, we'd probably be in #zenwalk. :P [03:18] haha [03:19] i was reading about it, but not sure to use it [03:19] Action: draeath loves his Squire strat [03:19] It may be chinese, but for some reason it's about perfect. [03:19] may as well be a regular Fender, but for a couple knots in the wood grain [03:19] fire|bird: im considering fedora (desktop purposes of course) [03:19] Fedora, ugh. [03:19] been there used that [03:20] Urchlay: yea, i was given one for a birthday of my youth a long time ago. i taught myself, read music, could transpose in real-time, learned chords, practiced with a neighbor, could sing too. [03:20] fire|bird: ugly? bad? [03:20] fire|bird: i always think slackware as server... not for desktop... [03:20] I think he just has a thing against Indiana Jones :P [03:21] webbi: Fedora, tbh, has some of the best artwork around, I just don't like it, I want full control, no bloat, no gazillion services starting, etc. [03:21] draeath: Indiana Jones, how the heck does that fit in? [03:21] Fedora. Jones wears one! [03:21] Urchlay: and then that all ended when it was stolen from my bedroom by the house-owner who thought i owed rent. [03:21] It's one of his icons! [03:21] PurpleSmurf: nice. I'm just now trying to teach myself to sing & play at the same time, after 20 years of playing without singing. My fingers forget what they're doing... [03:21] fire|bird: crap... i didnt know that it was so "ubuntu" [03:21] the hat and the whip [03:21] Urchlay: play air-strument [03:21] draeath: haha [03:21] PurpleSmurf: you couldn't just go get another guitar? [03:22] webbi: lol [03:22] I mean good ones are pricey, but you can get a serviceable used one for $300 to $500 (probably less than a month's rent?) [03:22] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] fire|bird: i dont like slackware + kde though [03:23] webbi: use fluxbox, xfce, or even install gnome if you want. [03:23] fire|bird: im going to use fluxbox [03:23] that's what's great about slackware, it can be what YOU want or what YOU make it. [03:23] Urchlay: playing was an activity of my youth. it became time to move on; it was a personal indulgence that I enjoyed immensely though; i miss it but i'll pick it up again in the next life. [03:24] kde does more [03:24] Nick change: caffiend -> dchmelik [03:24] Action: LF4 Slackware+XFce :) though I want to try out KDE4 when I get 13. [03:24] fire|bird: yes i love slack... but i leave it until now... it was my first linux box [03:25] LF4: i used xfce but xfce4 give me some problems [03:25] webbi: I use XFce4 at work and so far haven't run in to any issues. Then again this is an Ubuntu system. [03:26] I tried to become "serious" and stop making music for a few years, it was the 2nd most miserable time of my life (almost as bad as high school) [03:26] LF4: well when i used xfce4 i think it was pretty new.. not beta, but the first release [03:26] ahh ok [03:27] Urchlay: yea; opposite for me, it was my escape and time filler. I was fairly good; not great; not a leader but I couldve done covers [03:28] escape and time-filler is what life's all about. Everything else (job and such) is the stuff you do to support whatever your real life is... [03:28] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.135) joined ##slackware. [03:29] yea; if you want to life that so-called life. i dont. [03:29] im no slave. [03:29] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: No route to host [03:29] good morning [03:30] I'm not either... not talking about the stupid "lifestyle" that involves drugs and having 50 illegitimate kids in 50 different towns... [03:30] heh [03:30] neither was i [03:30] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [03:31] but, eh, the only 2 things I ever showed any aptitude for are music and computers, and I got completely burned out trying to make a living doing the computer thing [03:31] hmm, maybe i'll go out and look at constellations; Orion's crossed the horizon alredy down here in Fla. [03:32] kiwidude (n=Snake@ip-118-90-87-48.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: "AnacønÐa · "If at first you don't succeed, you will never succeed"" [03:32] hey, you're not near Orlando, are you? [03:32] Peace r. is just n. of me [03:32] Action: jeev kicks Urchlay in the face and runs off to bed [03:33] I want to ask how to choose the resolution of mplayer-vo svga .. Because whatever you start with this outcome Monitor shows me that is beyond its capacity to demonstrate and bring him back to 1024x768 60HZ to work .. I don 't know whether my thinking is correct. [03:33] ROKO__, do you have correct resolution set up in /etc/vga/libvga.config? [03:33] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [03:33] nice to see you too, jeev [03:33] it's the little personal touches that count [03:34] Urchlay: also saw the streak of asteriod too last night [03:34] neat [03:34] yea, very [03:34] [03:34] I do not know I have not checked there .. And I did not know that there .. [03:34] yea i'm gonna do that. [03:34] later [03:35] dive What should I do in this config? [03:35] ROKO__, you should set that file up first before playing with mplayer etc [03:35] ROKO__, read it, there are lots of notes [03:36] [03:36] What to look for .. [03:37] well mouse, video card, resoluion [03:38] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [03:39] ROKO__: the main section you're interested in is the monitor type section - try sme of the different resolutions (starting with lower resolutions first) and see which ones work with your monitor [03:39] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:39] well, that was a bust; atmosphere is vapor-locked; only one star near moon (is that Mars or Jupiter?) rest of sky is opaque [03:39] [03:39] I do not see such sektsiy in this file [03:40] Urchlay: so you dont 'live' from something related to computers? [03:40] ROKO__: if you can get the specs on your monitor, it would also help with finding the horizontal sync and vertical refresh settings [03:40] \o/, that dd is done now. I'll just wait until tomorrow to try it. [03:41] Samung SyncMaster 795df [03:41] webbi: not in the past 6 months, no [03:41] samsung* [03:41] Urchlay: what was your work 6 months ago? [03:41] fire|bird: gratz [03:41] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [03:41] ok... [03:41] webbi: bloody stupid PHP/mysql web programming [03:41] Urchlay: just to know, forget it if you dont want to talk about [03:41] so current doesnt work for me either guys [03:42] alisonken1noc ? [03:42] I really *really* wasn't enjoying it [03:42] y0 missyjane [03:42] [03:42] what follows [03:42] Urchlay: haha yes it's stupid... i have a small company here, web development too [03:42] Urchlay: it's soooo boring [03:42] Urchlay: always the same [03:43] gah, need to reboot the bloody computer, windows update is annoying me [03:43] how do i setup my scroll to work agian? ?:( i forgot [03:43] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-99bf21f061ccd148) joined ##slackware. [03:44] missyjane, mouse scroll? [03:44] yeah [03:44] slackytude: thanks. :) [03:44] missyjane: can't help you there, works fine with no tinkering for me :\ [03:44] slackytude: I'll let you know tomorrow if it works. [03:44] yeah mine works with no config for that at all now [03:44] [03:44] Some will even give me a little attention to the issue ... If I was clearly there to find help [03:45] Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" [03:45] nah it was a setup, forgot which mouse to select [03:45] brb [03:45] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Client Quit [03:45] ROKO__: your client is screwed up. [03:45] it keeps sending two lines [03:45] I wish you'd stop sending lines consisting only of a tab character [03:45] i dont do that [03:45] not you [03:45] o [03:45] y [03:45] even get scrolling in Konsole .. pico + scroll = nom nom nom [03:45] my grep paste [03:46] ROKO__: after googling a manual for it, your monitor does 30-85Khz horizontal and 50-160Hz vertical. So any vga resolution that is within those values for horizontal sync/vertical refresh should be valid vga modes [03:47] must set these values in the config file? [03:47] ? [03:47] yes [03:47] [03:47] Current are HorizSync 31.5 35.5 [03:47] VertRefresh 50 90 [03:47] uncomment the value in each section that fit within those values [03:48] 31.5 35.5 was suitable as a default back in like 1992 [03:48] isnt there the auto x11 config? [03:48] X -configure [03:48] alisonken1noc [03:48] we're talking about svga [03:48] not X11 [03:48] oh [03:48] How do I know which correspond to those data [03:48] sorry then [03:49] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [03:49] alrighg uys [03:49] sorry but i do want to voice that im disappointed :( [03:49] so horizontal sync would be to look at what mode you want your monitor to be in (like 1024x768), and find matching values [03:49] missyjane: why [03:49] missyjane, you just did [03:49] current not working? [03:49] none of the slackware but 12.1 work with my computer [03:49] 12.2 doesnt work [03:49] 12.0 doesnt work [03:49] do yo uknow why? [03:49] but the .1 [03:50] well for one, the install at current was stuck at fontconfig or something like that [03:50] so it doesn't do anything, nothing at all. not even a blank screen. it's a void of "not work" [03:50] that's serious business [03:50] and what errors/problems do you get with the others missyjane ? [03:50] so skip that [03:50] PurpleSmurf, how can i skip that? [03:50] usual slack config, dont select it [03:50] at a guess, if you want 1024x768 vga resolution (and your card supports it as well), set horizsync to 31.5 56.0 and vertrefresh to 50 100 [03:50] meh i dont want to encounter font problems [03:50] [03:50] Otherwise you need to change? [03:51] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:51] missyjane: dont select during install; then when you boot in, chmod -x rc.font [03:51] bleh too much problem doing that [03:51] i rather not deal with the drama [03:52] ROKO__: then select a modeline that will match those values as well (1024x768@70Hz) [03:52] that's not drame; that's the proper way to deal with it. [03:52] the only way to deal with it [03:52] i know, but bleh [03:52] its the only way to be sure [03:52] ok [03:52] my heart hurt [03:52] you know [03:52] i thought i installed on my backu [03:52] p [03:52] [03:52] But man I do not know which match ... [03:52] ROKO__: After that, select your appropriate chipset values for your video card [03:52] alisonken1noc, more likely be 60hz if its lcd [03:53] and at that res I'd guess it is [03:53] complexmess (n=complexm@adsl-76-192-131-201.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] hello all [03:53] greetings complexmess [03:53] i have a question, which should be fairly simple to answer [03:53] complexmess, its already a acomplex mess [03:53] dive: based on the model, it looks like his monitor is NOT lcd [03:53] sorry cant help [03:53] darn [03:53] i suppose i'll leave [03:53] <.<; [03:53] :) [03:54] =P [03:54] at least based on the pdf I d/l on it [03:54] alisonken1noc, you downloaded a pdf for him? [03:54] serious question though - whyd oes everything look sharper on a new install? [03:54] I found a pdf to download from a google search, yes [03:54] ok, so a long time ago i was having problems with what i thought was my wireless driver, so i installed ndiswrapper. How can i revert to the old driver? [03:54] What should I do all the lines of this section are discussed .. To choose which line to uncomment [03:55] I go by my original answer: read the plentiful notes in libvga.conf and work it out for yourself :| [03:55] ROKO__: for the horizontal/vertical, those comment just show what the values are used for. look for a separate line that says "HorizSync NNN NNN" and "VertRefresh NNN NNN" on where to put those values [03:55] complexmess, do you have the old driver still? i dont think you can revert something like that... [03:56] complexmess, was the old driver included in kernel? [03:56] [03:56] Otherwise you have to do? [03:56] http://xkcd.com/487/ [03:56] root (n=root@92.81.99.210) joined ##slackware. [03:56] ROKO__: seriously dude, the tab thing is really annoying [03:56] Action: edman007 slaps root [03:56] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Nick change: root -> Guest51476 [03:57] dive: i'm not sure what that means, but if you mean was it on the dvd that i installed from, then yes [03:57] ROKO__: "have to do?" as in? [03:57] lol root logged in? [03:57] Nick change: Guest51476 -> Keiffer [03:57] missyjane: i'd just like to go back to the driver that i originally had (that was on the installation dvd) [03:57] Action: edman007 integrates xkcd [03:57] edit the line that only has "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh" and replace the numbers with the values for the resolution you want [03:57] Keiffer: You might want to get on IRC with a different user besides root. [03:57] complexmess, right, I mean you didn't have to install the driver from some website or so? [03:58] the old driver [03:58] LF4 ok [03:58] dive: no [03:58] after than, you uncomment the line for your video chipset so the vga driver has a better understanding of what your video card can do [03:58] bah i dont know [03:58] So, now I am on Slax and trying to connect to my home pc with sssh [03:58] im freaking installing wxwidget right now [03:58] missyjane: freaking is right [03:59] What changed them with the values where you gave me but the result is the same, yet a question mark appears on the screen with the message [03:59] complexmess, ok, you need to rmmod the ndiswrapper module, modprobe the correct driver for your card and tell system to use it [03:59] and nothing... ssh myip...and nothing [03:59] I have a question about SoftRAID 5, if I dual boot will the RAID only be detected by the OS that I set it up with? [03:59] complexmess, in fact the opposite of what you did to set up ndiswrapper [03:59] The Moon is Waning Gibbous (98% of Full) [03:59] dive: i've rmmod'ed it already, and went into the ndiswrapper source directory and did "make uninstall" [03:59] dive: I'm glad you noted that. Everything makes sense now. [03:59] my god it's standing room only [04:00] alisonken1home, lol :) [04:00] dive: but i don't remember the name of the driver, or how to install it [04:00] Action: missyjane s heartwrenches, she thought she installed on her backup for hours [04:00] complexmess, which card do you have (lspci) [04:00] bcm4312 [04:01] eck [04:01] ok once sec [04:01] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.75.142) joined ##slackware. [04:01] so would the driver be called bcm43xx? [04:01] missyjane: actually, I'm at noc right now :) [04:01] i think that's what it was [04:01] alisonken1noc [04:01] http://nopaste.org/p/a6G7sqULbb [04:01] damn windows updates [04:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:01] =/ [04:01] so.. what should i do? [04:01] slackboy: turn off automatic updates... [04:01] slackytude: haha [04:02] slackytude, what happened? [04:02] Action: missyjane laughs at complexmess [04:02] alisonken1noc, lol damn tab [04:02] complexmess, I'm sure it's the b43 module but i'm just checking... [04:02] slackytude: forget updates and install kaspersky [04:02] just had to reboot, second time now [04:02] missyjane, =P [04:02] dive: take your time good sir [04:02] webbi: got kaspersky [04:02] slackytude: then dont update... he will protect you [04:02] ROKO__: recomment the line with the notes - replace the numbers listed _below_ that section (the line that says "HorizSync" only with the two numbers) with the values I gave you above. [04:03] I thought kaspersky got beat by deep blue [04:03] webbi: lol [04:03] connection timed out [04:03] Do the same thing with the VertRefresh line just below the HorizSync line using the vertrefresh values [04:03] complexmess, yeah it's b43, but some people have had problems with it I seem to recall. [04:03] complexmess, proprietary wl driver from broadcom compiles just fine on slackware....if you don't mind the proprietary binary blob [04:03] Urchlay, i read that he did at first, but then beat big blue afterwards [04:03] (in a rematch) [04:03] Urchlay: be honest... nothing can protect you under windows... so... why update it? [04:03] well i'll be honest with what i'm trying to do [04:03] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:04] actually, the guy's name was karparov, I was trying to be funny calling him kaspersky... [04:04] the reason i'm trying to go back to that driver is so that i can patch it and try to use aircrack [04:04] webbi: I disagree with that. :) [04:04] er, kasparov [04:04] Urchlay: hahaha [04:04] however you spell it [04:04] Urchlay: Is that your final spelling? [04:04] complexmess, err... [04:04] alright so now, i need to know, how to setup mouse scroll again? [04:04] fire|bird: tell me a solution [04:04] dive: yea... [04:04] Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" [04:04] nobody will help me_ [04:04] Keiffer: <3<3<3 [04:04] would it not be worth adding inkscape to slackware? [04:05] http://www.slackwiki.org/Scroll_Wheel [04:05] bcm4312 can do aircrack with a kernel patch [04:05] antiwire: its on sbo [04:05] use your gray matter to make that how to work... [04:05] antiwire: hahahaha [04:05] what is on sbo? [04:05] inkscape [04:05] complex, what's <3 [04:05] a750mhzslinky: yea, that's why i'm trying to revert back to the original driver instead of using ndiswrapper [04:05] ? [04:05] Quiznos, im too scared >< any config i could just type in instead? [04:05] Keiffer: that's a heart... [04:05] i already have inkscape installed [04:05] complexmess, try kernel module first, then if that doesn't work try the binary blob from broadcom [04:05] what are you talking about? [04:05] hi [04:05] missyjane: X -configure [04:06] dive: i'm still a nub, how do i do that? [04:06] hi Thom1 [04:06] antiwire: I aimed at the wrong guy [04:06] alright [04:06] ill do that after i install everything [04:06] dchmelik: its on sbo [04:06] lol [04:06] slackytude: ready.....aim....misfire. :) [04:06] :( [04:06] orlyic slackytude... good it is on sbo [04:06] complex, do u love me? [04:06] complexmess, does 'modprobe b43' do anything? Check 'lsmod | gep b43' [04:06] Keiffer, since you are my husband, you are NOT allowed to cheat on me [04:06] slackytude: you can't even blame that one on a tab completion fail. [04:07] er 'lsmod | grep b43' [04:07] fire|bird: heh, yeah [04:07] dive, I'm on a bcm4312 right now b43 did not work for me on 12.2 I'm using wl =( [04:07] fire|bird: altho a and d are awfully close to each other [04:07] ummm [04:07] could happen to anyone [04:07] missyjane, not even with guys? [04:07] dive: b43 is at the top of the list [04:07] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:07] you telling me my e-vagina isnt enough? [04:08] lol [04:08] slackytude: true, but they aren't on dvorak. :D [04:08] fire|bird: nobody uses that anyway [04:08] slackytude: speak for yourself. [04:08] slackboy: yea... [04:08] YES, not enough [04:08] fire|bird: nobody *sane* uses that anyway [04:08] complexmess: tab completion fail, twice. :P [04:08] complexmess, I would think very carefully about whether I would want to patch and recompile kernel just for aircrack to be honest. Might be better with the binary driver. [04:08] slackytude: thanks, I guess I'm insane, which groups me with missyjane. :P [04:09] fire|bird: i didn't even notice xD, i'll be more attentive next time [04:09] complexmess: haha, no worries. [04:09] fire|bird: a large group to be sure [04:09] Nick change: Superbaloo -> superbaloo [04:09] hahaha [04:09] 1,062# marlin hooked in contest; record weight. [04:09] wow [04:09] Keiffer, missyjane trouble in paradise? [04:09] to be sent to food bank [04:10] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [04:10] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:10] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.75.142) left ##slackware. [04:10] dive: the driver would be a patched driver? [04:10] slackytude, yes [04:10] binary driver still requires kernel patch [04:10] slackytude, yes. and my ssh wont work too [04:10] Keiffer, missyjane, does Dominian have to draw up divorce papers already? [04:10] i am doomed [04:10] complexmess, it might work as it is [04:10] yes you are [04:10] stop right now and pack it all back up [04:10] Keiffer: on more than one account. [04:10] sell it to highest bidder [04:10] fire|bird, no Dominian does not [04:10] :P [04:10] Keiffer: next chnce, setup dialin to home [04:10] a750mhzslinky, really? That sucks. [04:10] dive: wait so right now my computer has no intarnetz [04:11] missyjane: lol, so the marriage is alright? [04:11] if anything i have to find anothe rman to marry before we draw up the divorce paper.. you know.. just in case [04:11] haha [04:11] PurpleSmurf, DIAL/UP? [04:11] how about a smurf missyjane [04:11] so Keiffer can be a backup husband? [04:11] Keiffer: fall back [04:11] ... [04:11] not just any smurf, a Purple one [04:11] missyjane: unfortunately, I'm already taken, so have to find another sucker^Wcandidate :) [04:11] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:11] Purple from pent up frustration? [04:11] alisonken1noc: lol [04:11] lol >:( [04:12] alisonken1noc: hahaha [04:12] fire|bird: i guess [04:12] dive: "modprobe wlan0" yields "could not open '.../ndiswrapper.ko': no such file or directory [04:12] I wil trade missyjane to you if you help me with ssh [04:12] sa [04:12] ? [04:12] Keiffer: wow, aren't you a good husband. :P [04:12] Keiffer: Whats wrong with your ssh? [04:12] dive: how can i make wlan0 use the module i just installed? [04:12] complexmess, wlan0 is not a kernel module [04:12] why a smurf? [04:12] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [04:12] complexmess, what revision is your card? [04:12] I'm not sure I've ever seen ##slackware so busy at one time. [04:12] complexmess, ifconfig shoudl show wlan0 [04:12] dive: it doesn't [04:12] LF4, it was running ok, connected from localhost. but from here, it won\t work. connection timed out [04:12] fire|bird: I know lol its crazy [04:13] slackytude: i'm multifaceted; im a pseudo-trollish too [04:13] a750mhzslinky: 1 [04:13] complexmess, ifconfig -a ? [04:13] LF4: indeed it is. :P [04:13] PurpleSmurf: ah [04:13] i've seen it way worse [04:13] aye [04:13] antiwire: must have been when I wasn't around. [04:13] Keiffer: where is "from here"? [04:13] dive: no, and ifconfig wlan0 up doesn't work either [04:13] when you americans go sleep, we go rockin! [04:13] like a 3 ring circus with monkeys and wombats running around [04:13] complexmess: look for udev rules [04:13] LF4, work. and trying to acces home [04:13] slackytude: Haha I work when everyone sleeps. [04:13] webbi, ? [04:13] LF4: australia? [04:14] what? [04:14] LF4: sleep, what's sleep? :P [04:14] we americans never slseep [04:14] Keiffer: Does your router forward port 22 to the IP of the machine you are trying to access? [04:14] we are constantly watching you yuropeens [04:14] missyjane: that explains a lot [04:14] i want to evolve. to to use the little brother + candy + phone combination [04:14] complexmess, which devices does ifconfig show? And iwconfig too. [04:14] fire|bird: Haha true [04:14] LF4: maybe nap, but no sleep. :P [04:14] slackytude: No, USA +7GMT [04:14] LF4, i don\t have a router. my isp does. [04:14] ¿ [04:14] webbi: later? [04:14] dive: sorry, he said module, i though about device name -> device relation [04:14] dive: just eth0 and lo [04:14] complexmess: sorry, i missread your question [04:14] LF4: same for most here [04:14] webbi, okies [04:15] seriously [04:15] slackware should come with qt and cabextract installed [04:15] Keiffer: so you have a modem --> PC at your house? [04:15] complexmess, and that's with ifconfig -a ? [04:15] yessir [04:15] No, i have a cable connection. [04:15] slackytude: Same timezone or location? [04:15] complexmess: i think that what you are looking for is in /etc/modprobe.d/ [04:15] DSL [04:15] complexmess, it may be the legacy driver [04:16] Keiffer: time to wire the phone/modem [04:16] complexmess, which model did you say it is? [04:16] 43..? [04:16] PurpleSmurf, teach me and i will give you 40 camels [04:16] Keiffer: Can you tell me how the wires get to your PC? The Coax cable comes in to your house then connects to a cable-modem from there does it connect to your PC? [04:16] you know how. [04:17] yea [04:17] dive: yes [04:17] Keiffer, be useful, be a MAN will ya? [04:17] :O [04:17] complexmess, yeah but which? [04:17] webbi: what do i do there, the conf file is empty <.<; [04:17] 4312 [04:17] LF4: both, no? [04:17] LF4.. what coax cable.. is a cable that comes into my house into my network card [04:18] 40 camels is a lot [04:18] missyjane, be a WOMAN and make me a ssh connection, will ya? [04:18] complexmess: if you want to set that wlan0 uses an specific module you need to setup an alias, in that dir you just create a new file where you set it... but not sure if that's what you are looking for... and dive is guiding you dont want to mess it [04:18] Keiffer, lol doesnt work that way, nice try [04:18] complexmess, don't know. Sounds like it isn't going to work with kernel driver. [04:18] Keiffer: get 2 phone wire and wire splitter, connect properly all devices and wall; dial in. [04:18] Keiffer: lol are you serious? You have Cat5 cable running in to your house? [04:18] Keiffer, missyjane, to your respective corners, there will be 3 rounds, 5 minutes each. :P [04:19] man [04:19] complexmess, usually when you load the module the device should show up in ifconfig [04:19] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [04:19] as soon as people are married they try to kill each other [04:19] slackytude: reason to not get married? :P [04:19] dive: dmesg does not should show him what happened? [04:19] Cant wait for Keiffer and missyjane to find out about sudo then the other one will be a finished. [04:19] complexmess, http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=broadcom make sure your PCI ID does not match the one on this site and there are usful patches guides [04:19] LF4... i googled it and yes, thats the cable [04:20] fire|bird: aye [04:20] qt is installed in slackwsre by default.. [04:20] slackware [04:20] kde needs it... [04:20] complexmess, did you check 'dmesg | tail' when you modprobed b43 as webbi suggested? [04:20] Keiffer: Open a browser and type in thsi address: 192.168.100.1 [04:20] oh, bugger. How does /list work on IRC, "/list *slack*" isn't showing anything (And I know this channel at least exists...) [04:21] which client? [04:21] Urchlay: what are you trying to do? [04:21] PurpleSmurf: irssi [04:21] Urchlay: are you thinking of /names? [04:21] LF4, i can\t do that since i am not at home now [04:21] should be same; /list *name* [04:21] Action: missyjane picks up a knife and looks for people to stab [04:21] dive: i must've missed that message [04:21] missyjane: hahaha [04:21] Action: fire|bird runs [04:21] Action: dive ducks [04:21] Action: webbi stays and fight [04:21] Action: PurpleSmurf hides [04:21] lol [04:22] roll and cover! [04:22] says the driver loaded [04:22] webbi: it was nice knowing you. [04:22] Keiffer: lol good point. Its your setup at home I am willing to bet your router is not forwarding the traffic to the PC. [04:22] Action: Keiffer starts shooting [04:22] fire|bird: hahahaha [04:22] Action: antiwire picks up a sword and lays down some medieval blood [04:22] quite possibly. Trying to get a list of all channels whose channel names contain the word "slack" [04:22] Action: dive puts on his kevlar underpants [04:22] Action: fire|bird gets a katana [04:22] dive: custom made? [04:22] of course [04:22] Action: slackytude holds up a flower [04:22] Urchlay /list *slack* works for me [04:22] peace not war dudes [04:22] lol [04:22] only the best for me [04:23] I coulda sworn "/list *slack*" would work, but it doesn't seem to... [04:23] LF4, i had many problems with linux. i tried to make a ftp server. didn\t worked. on windows it worked just fine [04:23] Action: webbi fight with hands, and almost got one down [04:23] saville row *cough* [04:23] Urchlay, /help list [04:23] Keiffer: you usually outcomment the ftp entry in inetd.conf and it should work [04:23] ElmerJFudd (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:23] holy god, qt is STILL compiling [04:23] i just finished compiling and instlaling 14 apps already [04:23] yeah, that gives me irssi's help, which doesn't mention wildcards [04:23] missyjane: yeah, qt is a bitch like that [04:24] Action: missyjane stabs qt [04:24] Keiffer: FTP is a little more complicated then SSH in linux but not much, and you need access to your router or if its a direct connection to the cable modem its some other issue which will be the next step. [04:24] Urchlay, maybe list doesn't take wildcards [04:24] missyjane: what you mean with "qt" ? sdk? [04:24] Urchlay: what does /list do? list users? [04:24] webbi, qt :| [04:24] fire|bird: no, it lists channels. Try /list #slackware [04:24] can list channels ot users in a channel [04:24] s/ot/or [04:24] Urchlay: /list ##slackware works here [04:24] missyjane: hahaha you program using qt libs? or it's just for dependencies? [04:24] eh, right [04:24] LF4, i don\t think the ISP restricted anything. on win every server, FTP, http, worked [04:25] dive: if i remember right, someone showed me a menu thing where i was able to install the b43 module, what was that? [04:25] on linux, nope [04:25] but on *some* IRC net I used to use, /list *slack* would work [04:25] Keiffer: Did SSH work in windows? [04:25] (asterisk as wildcard) [04:25] Urchlay IMO irssi /list is broken badly [04:25] LF4, ssh in win? didn\t ried that [04:25] Urchlay: yeah, /list *slack* doesn't work here. [04:25] and why would i? [04:25] well I tried "/quote list *slack*" to avoid any irssi-specific stuff [04:26] webbi, dependencies [04:26] complexmess, did you check lspci -nn for pci id...certain revision of 4312 is the unsupported one [04:26] Keiffer: check out openssh.org for how to run it in windows. [04:26] a750mhzslinky: carp, i fergot [04:26] LF4, ok. but i don\t have win anymore [04:26] a750mhzslinky: one moment pl0x [04:26] missyjane: why you not use the bin file? it install it quickly [04:26] My guess is your HTTP and FTP server was misconfigured in linux and "IF" you have SSH working then its a networking problem. [04:26] Urchlay: Quiznos here; /list on irssi is broken. [04:26] i bet my computer hates me [04:27] Keiffer: ^^ third post [04:27] webbi, dunno, why should i? i was told to install this way a long time ago [04:27] and im too lazy to look up "new" methods when this works ya know? [04:27] Nick change: fire|bird -> missyjanes_compu [04:27] Yes, I hate you. :D [04:27] .... [04:27] damn it, i knew it.. i can\t make anything run good from the first try [04:27] .................... [04:27] xD!!! [04:27] Urchlay definately works on bx, opera; but not on irssi [04:27] missyjane: well yes... but it's faster than compile the whole thing [04:27] Nick change: missyjanes_compu -> fire|bird [04:27] a750mhzslinky: i lol'ed [04:27] fire|bird, hey computer, take a look *stabs one more time* [04:27] a750mhzslinky: most cards work.... EXCEPT YOURS [04:27] Ah, that was my usb port you insensitive clod [04:28] Urchlay file a bugport on irssi? [04:28] 7 things compiling/making/etc at once right now [04:28] missyjane, are you compiling -current from scratch or something? [04:28] using sb0 [04:28] dive, what do you mean? [04:28] oh right [04:28] just qt4 or something? [04:28] complexmess, rev 1 14e4:4315? [04:28] eh. If I were to file a bug on irssi, the first question they'd ask me is "What happens if you say '/quote list *slack*'?" [04:29] and if the answer were "the same thing", they will say "then the server doesn't support wildcards" [04:29] a750mhzslinky: yes [04:29] Keiffer: Its luck if anyone can get it working the first time. unless you have a great understanding of things. [04:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433276.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:29] a750mhzslinky: but i have another laptop, lemme see if this one is fine [04:29] Urchlay checking [04:29] Action: webbi is hearing ac/dc and want to fight with a guitar as weapon [04:29] Urchlay: empty list. [04:30] Action: LF4 gets some drum sticks to fight webbi [04:30] Action: fire|bird hits webbi in the head with a drum stick [04:30] LF4, i-m a skydiver. they say it for people who are good at making things workinf from the first time [04:30] right. I just tried it a different IRC network and it worked [04:30] s/drum stick/bass drum/ [04:30] Agiofws: !!! QuizSmurflet here [04:30] Urchlay: ok [04:30] hahahaha [04:30] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:30] Action: webbi run scared [04:30] Agiofws and here [04:30] Agiofws: and here [04:30] webbi: yeah, you better run. :P [04:30] (er, well, not *slack* because they don't have any slack-related channels, but if #channel exists, I can say /list *channel* and see it) [04:30] bahaha [04:30] complexmess, bummer...you can get a supported pcmcia card for so cheap now it is almost not worth dealing with kernel patching and what not [04:30] Action: webbi now hear madonna [04:30] Keiffer: Haha true, cant mess that up the first time. Well... you can but you wont get a second chance. [04:30] I dont want to work anymore, I want the weekend [04:31] no, I demands it! [04:31] s/madonna/Britney Spears/ hehe [04:31] slackytude: break your leg... "accidentally" [04:31] fire|bird: Haha [04:31] webbi: O_o [04:31] slackytude: hahahaa [04:31] Urchlay: i'm not getting any listing on any word I try [04:31] a750mhzslinky, but it looks better when you don't have something sticking out of the side of your computer [04:31] slackytude: why stop there just snap your neck. [04:31] ouch [04:31] LF4, so, what should i do next? [04:31] Urchlay, try another channel on freenode - maybe ##slack is not visible from list [04:32] workers ofthe world unite! no more work on friday! break your chains! you have nothing to lose except your health, friends, family or life! [04:32] it's a newnet server. I can go "/list *video*" and I see #music-videos as output... so either newnet supports wildcards and freenode doesn't, or else there's some kind of silly "you can't use /list unless you register your nick" policy on freenode [04:32] slackytude: health? [04:32] Keiffer: Wait until you get home and then ask for help to check and make sure port 22 is being forwarded to your PC. [04:32] webbi: yeah? [04:32] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] slackytude: im able to lost a bit of health for that [04:32] freenode shows nothing for "/list *linux*" either [04:32] Urchlay, no I'm reg and it didn't work for me [04:32] Urchlay: quote list *sl* fails [04:32] LF4 i use 8899 for ssh [04:32] my head is filled with regret and pain right now [04:32] Urchlay: /list *slack* didnt work for me. [04:32] irssi is bugged [04:33] Urchlay, when you do list ##slackware you see at least the topic? [04:33] ElmerJFudd: if /quote list fails, it's *not* irssi that's failing [04:33] alright [04:33] ok [04:33] well getting ndiswrapper back up and running was simple enough =) [04:33] Keiffer: so you have your SSH server set up to receive from port 8899 and is it being forwarded? That is the big question. [04:33] /list *sl* fails [04:33] because /quote sends the command directly to the server, so any buggy code in irssi for /list would never get called [04:33] yea [04:34] LF4, i don\t think if its forwarded. i know that my ISP wont restrict me in any way [04:34] yes, "/list ##slackware" works, but a "list channels" command that only lists the channels I already know the names of, is *completely* useless [04:34] k [04:34] indeedy [04:34] Keiffer: if you say so... then it has to be a configuration error on the server. [04:34] well this sux [04:35] im gonan buy a 1tb for backup, anyone against that idea? [04:35] nop [04:35] LF4, but connecting from locahost worked perfectly [04:35] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [04:35] none of ##s*, #s*, or s* will show anything (they do all give "start of list" and "end of list" messages) [04:35] missyjane: not me [04:36] Keiffer: Then it has to be a networking issue which is why I keep saying check to make sure the ports are being fowarded correctly. [04:36] hm ok [04:36] Keiffer, pm me now [04:36] or you sleep on couch tonight [04:36] I don't much want to run /list with no arguments (most IRC networks, that's a bad idea, to list all the channels) [04:36] /list ## show one room [04:36] a750mhzslinky, i'm not seeing any intel chipsets on the compatibility list <.<.... [04:36] a750mhzslinky, am i doing something wrong? [04:37] but, eh, you know what, I don't care if I get disconnected, gonna try it anyway [04:37] ok bai [04:37] Urchlay: /msg alis list *slack* [04:38] complexmess, prolly not, I know nothing of intel chipsets, the best I would say is to run the injection test on intel card [04:38] yes, indeed, /list works and it'll show all 50 gazillion channels... not even in frigging alphabetical order. [04:38] I\m not sleeping on the couch anymore. I will sleep at my mistress [04:38] Urchlay: what cmd line? [04:38] valvola (n=fabiovio@193.204.78.80) joined ##slackware. [04:38] everybody [04:39] Urchlay: List does work but try the command I mentioned. You will like it. [04:39] LF4, how the f do i sea if that freakin port is freakin forwarded? [04:39] Keiffer wanted to inform me something horrendous [04:39] ? [04:39] hes... [04:39] ElmerJFudd: what? just plain "/list" by itself was what I ran. I got hundreds or thousands of results, in random-ish order [04:39] oh i cant say, its too horrible [04:39] Keiffer: Go home... type 192.168.100.1 in the address bard and see if you get access to your cable modem. [04:39] ok [04:39] missyjane: caution [04:39] missyjane: pray tell [04:40] LF4: OK, that works. irssi's help probably needs updating (it mentions using alis on ircnet, but says nothing of freenode) [04:40] missyjane, yes do tell (rubs hands together demonically) [04:40] a750mhzslinky && dive: tyvm for your assistance [04:40] Keiffer: mine works with 192.168.0.1 [04:40] complexmess, yw [04:40] ok i'm done; sleepy time [04:40] Urchlay: :) [04:40] LF4, webbi, will try that [04:40] Action: webbi took missyjane knife and going to use it if she doesnt talk [04:40] missyjane: stop teasing :) [04:41] alis doesn't know how to frickin sort alphabetically, either [04:41] gone [04:41] WTF [04:41] complexmess, np [04:41] he is gay [04:41] wot? Alis? [04:41] missyjane: hahahahahaa [04:41] Keiffer: webbi: 192.168.100.1 is the actaul cable modem 192.168.0.1 would be a router (if thats the case I am 99% sure its not forwarding the correct port). [04:41] oh well [04:42] eh, I was expecting something more sinister [04:42] not really [04:42] i was just being pretentious [04:42] :) [04:42] Urchlay: lol make a perl script ;) [04:42] like, you opened a door and there wer the corpses of his former wives [04:42] ... gay? [04:42] LF4: Keiffer: mine is a motorola surfboard.. and im sure that it's at that address, cant test now... anyway what LF4 said is true it's used by routers [04:42] XD check this out if you guys played wow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5N1yGXOwek [04:42] so depressing [04:43] Action: webbi gives his knife to Keiffer [04:43] im sure we all rememeber the evolution of wow, the first mmo fer us all [04:43] webbi: interesting what model? [04:43] LF4: 5100 i think, not sure [04:43] I never played WOW lol [04:43] LF4: I probably will, with very foul language in the comments, cursing the fact that I *need* a script [04:43] webbi, i hav a gun. thanks anyway. [04:43] missyjane: wasnt my first [04:43] amazing game when you first started out [04:43] missyjane: I'd like to see that movie.. first time I've felt that way about a movie in years [04:43] Keiffer: no problem [04:43] Keiffer: Maybe she means the 50's version of 'gay' rather than the 70's version of 'gay' ? [04:43] Action: dive prefers fps [04:43] Keiffer: :) [04:43] Urchlay: haha [04:44] the WOW movie is gonna be crap, big time [04:44] quasar, sorry, what movie? [04:44] i hate warcraft now and im semibitter about the game [04:44] I dunno. I thought the Silent Hill movie was going to be crap, and it was decent [04:44] and the Resident Evil movie (the first one anyway) wasn't completely unwatchable (wasn't great either) [04:44] alisonken1noc, and what's the diff? [04:45] Keiffer: 50's version had no relationship to sex [04:45] OTOH, the Dungeons & Dragons movie was unwatchable crap. Even sticking a Wayans in there couldn't save it. [04:45] There's enough material to make a decent go of a WarCraft movie (anyone here ever read a Blizzard manual?). I remain cautiously optimistic. [04:45] dungeon and dragon had a movie? [04:45] missyjane: I forget the name of it, but the video on youtube looks like the trailer of a movie about a couple that goes to hawaii with a serial killer or something [04:45] if blizzard do succeed [04:45] missyjane: yes, but do yourself a favor and don't watch it [04:45] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.156) joined ##slackware. [04:45] blizzard just succeeded in promoting the entire fantasy genre [04:45] a dying genre too [04:46] which i respect blizzard for [04:46] but im ibtter on the fact they stole most shit from warhammer and even admit it [04:46] Urchlay: that was a crappy movie [04:47] slackytude: yeah. They even had cameos by Richard O'Brien (Rocky Horror) and Tom Baker (Dr. Who), and it *still* sucked [04:47] Action: slackytude nods [04:47] total crap [04:47] whats a small program that packages quickly? need to test something [04:47] LSD`: Yeah I have, I use to be a big WC2 fan and WC3 kind of killed it a little for me, WOW just blew it. [04:47] quasar: tar :D [04:47] tartartartar sauce! [04:48] kk brb :D [04:48] tatar sauce? Invented by Genghis Khan? [04:48] Haha i guess so. hey if the nintendo gets linux on it you can call it a wii-tar-d [04:49] i just want to say some people are retarded as hell, by retardd i do mean ****ing stupid [04:49] LF4: haha [04:49] i offered Keiffer to go on webcam so i can show him what i looked like and to see what he looked like [04:49] he say he doesnt have one and also inslults me off the bat [04:49] Keiffer> no, of course. i bet you\re ugly [04:49] so apparently he tells me he is from romania [04:49] cultural differences. girls from my country aren\t that sensible [04:49] haha [04:49] lol [04:50] hahaha [04:50] keifer, you are really fucikng stupid its hilarious :| [04:50] noobfarm [04:50] slackytude: indeed [04:50] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:50] ? [04:50] slackytude: you do the honors? [04:50] should i be upset on that? [04:50] missyjane: we should be able to see you to talk about... [04:50] i feel sorry for you, all the women you live with are ugly [04:51] missyjane: thats because they are just cardboard. [04:51] XD [04:51] missyjane, please don't feel. you already feel to much. you\re getting too emotional [04:51] LF4: cardboard, it's 2009, they're plastic now. :P [04:51] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.135) left irc: "Leaving" [04:52] fire|bird: no even better... Silicon [04:52] LF4: and before you ask, I'm just going by what slackytude told me. :P [04:52] LF4: Ah, silicon, well then we know they're fake. [04:53] fire|bird: sorry, busy atm [04:53] haha [04:53] slackytude: no worries [04:53] kthx bye [04:53] later slackytude [04:53] ye gods, it's 03:51 [04:53] Action: LF4 wonders if you say his name 3 times will he appear? [04:53] hashi (i=hashi@creep.bur.st) joined ##slackware. [04:53] 5:51 here [04:53] no - it's 0151 [04:54] boy, did i really upset that girl? [04:54] lol yep fire|bird its 2:54 here [04:54] LF4, LF4, LF4. <---There, now where the heck are ya? [04:54] Action: LF4 poof [04:54] fire|bird: you forgot the quotes [04:54] ah crap [04:54] alisonken1noc: around each one? [04:54] alisonken1noc, why arent you asleep? which yurpeen are you spying on? [04:55] missyjane: because I start work at midnight - remember? [04:55] yes sorry [04:55] hm [04:55] alisonken1noc: where do you work? [04:55] hashi (i=hashi@creep.bur.st) left irc: Client Quit [04:55] socal - dreamhost [04:55] anyway, later guys, and gal. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening}. Take care. [04:55] LF4: um, I bet alisonken1noc works in... a NOC? [04:55] later fire|bird [04:55] cya fire|bird [04:55] im going out too [04:55] later LF4 [04:55] Urchlay: :) [04:55] cya dive [04:55] browny points [04:56] I see [04:56] later fbird [04:56] bye guys! [04:56] bye alisonken1noc, webbi, missyjane. :) [04:56] fire|bird: what - no goodnight for the night shift? [04:56] later webbi [04:56] later Urchlay [04:56] v4nelle (n=van@78-113-70.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:56] later fire|bird [04:56] alisonken1noc: read the line above yours. :P [04:56] graveyard shift is great x_x [04:56] night fire|bird [04:56] will miss you [04:56] night missyjane [04:56] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.26.58) left irc: No route to host [04:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Here I go!"). [04:57] graveyard shift in a NOC might be great [04:57] webbi (n=webi@190.247.201.22) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] graveyard shift in a Waffle House was no fun, I did it for 5+ years [04:57] fire|bird: but you said "good {morning/afternoon/evening}" - that leavs out the graveyard shift [04:57] i'd love a graveyard shift anywhere [04:57] haha alisonken1noc We'll have to get him next time. [04:58] my wife loves it - she get's to sleep unmolested now :) [04:58] antiwire: Want mine? there is a position opening soon. [04:58] LF4: what region? [04:58] i'll move [04:58] dang - missed him [04:58] Utah :P lol [04:58] ok [04:58] tell me when [04:58] actually it might have been tolerable, except the manager would always schedule the graveyard guys like 3 graveyard shifts and 2 swing shifts, or something evil like that [04:58] seriously i'll apply [04:58] LF4: and how close to the sco saga are you? [04:59] It's not the best pay for actaully moving though. [04:59] i don't care [04:59] alisonken1noc: I'm right in the salt lake area. [04:59] cool - get to see any of the fun there? [04:59] mormon country... [04:59] lol your wife is right, it is molesting :D [04:59] alisonken1noc: lol nope I work graveyard haha and sleep durning the day. [04:59] its like [04:59] "SHOO" [04:59] :x [04:59] I bet the movie "SLC Punk" was 100% fiction... [05:00] Urchlay: lol yep the "mother Land" haha (should point out that I am mormon). [05:00] LF4: dang. I know the feeling [05:00] woot.. my first program since the mid 1990s compiles and runs properly .. all 119 lines of code! :D [05:00] missyjane, you are so deeply upset, but how should i be? you said i\m reallz f..king retarded and so on [05:00] Quiznos, are you there? [05:00] Urchlay: Nope lol some of my co-wokers knew those people in SLC punk. well who it was based off of. [05:00] LF4: oh, coolk [05:00] er, cool [05:00] someone remind me how i can uninstall pidgin >< [05:00] haha nice quasar [05:01] what does it do? [05:01] missyjane: slackbuild :) [05:01] Keiffer: you officially loose your man balls [05:01] it's over [05:01] no no, UNINSTALL, not install [05:01] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [05:01] I mean I knew a guy here (Atlanta burbs) who was basically just like Heroin Bob, except he's not dead [05:01] missyjane, removepkg pidgin? [05:01] missyjane: did you use a pidgin package? removepkg pidgin* [05:01] Urchlay: oh interesting. [05:01] LF4: it's a slackbuild generator (for stuff that doesn't need extensive tweaking.. like tar :D) [05:01] antiwire, as long as i keep them in the biological way, no problem [05:02] omg perfect ty alisonken1noc [05:02] YOU'RE WELCOME [05:02] missyjane: dive beat me to it [05:02] simple input, simple output lol [05:02] heh [05:02] lol [05:02] LF4: do you work in a data center or NOC or what? [05:02] I found it amusing.. people getting so upset, eating their nerves and all [05:02] LF4: actually, all I know about Mormonism is that it produced Orson Scott Card, so it can't be all bad... [05:03] lol i missed dive, guess i am blind to those i dont talk to often [05:03] lol antiwire no this is just a normal building lol not a glory job. we just have 24/7 monitoring for att [05:03] missyjane, don't you have a hilight set for your name? [05:03] dive, i do but.. its like ad blindness, except.. habit blindness or something for me [05:03] LF4: is it IT work or something else? [05:03] haha Urchlay interesting :) [05:04] YES QT FINISHED [05:04] antiwire: Yeah its IT... we use Keynote. [05:04] if you are running -current why are you building qt? [05:04] that's a very good question [05:05] Guest21308 (n=root@0x57305c62.abnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:05] /var/log/packages/qt-r1006620-i486-1:PACKAGE NAME: qt-r1006620-i486-1 [05:05] cause she needs qt3 compatibility and forgot to look in extra/ for it? [05:05] either way, you don't need to build anything [05:05] antiwire: if you are serious, a co-worker is leaving in 2-3 weeks (school) so a graveyard shift is openning up. I can give you HR's email if you would like. [05:05] antiwire, im not running current, im back to what worked for me 12.1 [05:06] missyjane: why lol [05:06] LF4: I am, I'd at least like to send my information to HR and have a phone talk [05:06] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.135) joined ##slackware. [05:06] missyjane: you're not replacing your system qt package with the one you just built, are you? [05:06] because current doesnt install and i dont like going through the hassle [05:06] lol, 12.1 is old [05:06] antiwire: PM? [05:06] sure [05:06] Urchlay, :| i am i guess, i always did this [05:06] Guest21308 (n=root@0x57305c62.abnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [05:07] missyjane: because if you can't get 12.2 to work... then upgrading your 12.1 packages until you have the equivalent of 12.2 or -current, is likely to make your system not work... [05:07] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [05:07] missyjane, what was the problem with 12.2 for you? [05:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:08] it's the best ever slackware that is around :-) [05:08] where did the % of HD go? [05:09] Urchlay, im not doing that lol o.o [05:09] slava_dp, kde didnt work well, apparently i do remember the keyword font and crashing being a problem in 12.2 [05:09] missyjane: was just a thought... [05:09] root__ (n=root@0x57305c62.abnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:10] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.54) left ##slackware. [05:10] what command i used for making a new user ? [05:10] Action: slava_dp never used kde in 12.2, only xfce, so can't argue with that. [05:10] addusr root__ [05:10] lol [05:10] root__, adduser [05:10] thx [05:10] root__ (n=root@0x57305c62.abnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [05:11] root__: that is the best question someone connected as root has ever asked. [05:11] root__: as root: adduser [05:11] lol [05:11] lol [05:11] lol [05:11] lol [05:11] DONT MOCK ME [05:11] sigh [05:11] anyone here uses Maltego? [05:11] missyjane, we're not mocking you [05:12] we had a good run going wtf [05:12] or other related app? [05:12] almost a full house [05:12] haha [05:12] I used to know a lady with a southern accent who would say that, only it came "Don't mawk me!" [05:12] xD [05:12] it was hard to keep a straight face and not mawk^H^H^H^Hmock her accent, when she'd say that [05:13] thats so cute [05:13] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1448 [05:13] see? everybody loves women, we are so cute [05:13] nah, she wasn't cute, she was scary [05:13] like speed-freak scary [05:13] oh [05:14] not a real speed freak, but she ate a bottle of 100 over-the-counter "white cross" ephedrin pills (however you spell it) [05:14] er, ate 100 of them a day, I mean to say [05:15] why? trying to lose weight? [05:15] dudess [05:15] trying to stay awake despite her boring job, I think [05:15] maltego? anyone? [05:15] I completely misread that. [05:15] o/~ Maltego, Key Largo, baby why don't we go? o/~ [05:15] oh [05:16] antiwire: you like the lol chain on noobfarm? [05:16] that's awesome [05:16] Keiffer: ewww, java [05:16] noobfarm is awesome [05:17] pprkut, why? it's awesome [05:17] Action: LF4 loves reading noobfarm keeps me updated on all the crazy stuff. [05:17] i hate noobfarm [05:17] who owns noobfarm? [05:17] straterra right? [05:17] Dominian [05:18] o [05:18] h [05:18] k [05:18] Urchlay: windows always shows less size than origional and what the hard disk size actual is... does that occur on linux too? once I heard they are spared for inodes [05:18] cause i remember i submitted about 20 quotes and it got accepted, then promptly removed [05:18] Keiffer: Java's infrastructure is a PITA (and it's UI looks plain ugly). Maltego might be a good app though [05:18] ohk? [05:18] dive: read as oh, k [05:18] k [05:18] wire-anti, thats actually fine due to mib and mb misconception [05:18] wire-anti: 1000 vs 1024 in reporting. [05:18] so its not that they are showing less than actual size [05:18] yeah, mib and mmb [05:18] wire-anti: correct. The filesystem has bookkeeping overhead (including the journal if you use ext3) [05:18] mb* [05:19] antiwire talking to himself... [05:19] heh [05:19] and yeah, at least one version of windows I've seen, would report real megabytes for file sizes but marketing megabytes for disk sizes (or maybe the other way around, this was probably win98) [05:19] Keiffer: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=forensic&sv=12.2 are those forensic apps on SBo [05:19] ppkut, if it had transforms for all, or at leas for the major social netwokrs.. [05:20] Someone thinks it is funny to transpose a nick when they can't come up with a decent one for themselves. [05:20] Urchlay: what if a sysmem run out of Inodes , it virtually becomes a read-only type? [05:20] hellos again [05:20] i'm looking for libnl-dev tarball [05:20] hi complexitymessy [05:20] hello [05:20] does there exists such a thing? [05:20] maybe [05:20] if you beat the 7 samurais [05:20] ppkut, cool, i worked with some of those [05:20] but i only have 1 dollar =/ [05:20] wire-anti: yes, but that's highly unlikely. You'd have to create *many* very small files to be able to force that to happen [05:21] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/libnl/ [05:21] fail >:( [05:21] =/ [05:21] i've installed that [05:21] <.<; [05:21] complexmess: there are no -devel packages in slackware... [05:21] ai see [05:21] slackware does not follow that madness [05:21] that clears up lots [05:22] ty very much [05:22] slackware has no developers. [05:22] =O [05:22] it just is [05:22] lulz [05:22] and now all the develops .*tear*. [05:22] developers* [05:23] slackware is an "upstream" distro: i.e. it follows upstream, not its own path, per se [05:23] also i've been wondering, what's the difference between compiling from source and using the slackbuild files? [05:23] complexmess: slackbuilds do compile from source but they package it at the end. [05:23] not much, just that the slackbuild script automates package building and uses a few specific options [05:24] you get a nifty package that makes it easy to install/uninstall at will (or want/need) :) [05:24] like compressing man pages, etc [05:24] it is the same thing except that a slackbuild uses the proper configure options and package structure [05:24] the slackbuilds do build from source, but they have the configure options set for you [05:24] they compile it in the slackware way [05:24] man [05:24] differences: [05:24] 1) [05:24] i wish you guys would call him a nub and tell him to read the slackbook like you guys told me to when i asked the exact same questions [05:24] lol [05:24] 1) the ./configure script gets a few options which make good sense [05:24] missyjane: What manual page do you want? [05:24] 2) [05:24] 2) you get a package at the end [05:25] 4) [05:25] lol [05:25] antiwire: when you will stop being rude to me [05:25] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [05:25] wire-anti: when you stop defacing my nice [05:25] nick [05:25] lol I'm just reading all of this more in a 70's hippy group style and its so funny. [05:25] wow I love russians [05:25] i'm guessing 3 was ???? [05:25] wire-anti, i don't see any rudeness [05:25] and 4 would be PROFIT!!! [05:25] well ty guys [05:26] will be back soon [05:26] wire-anti: you pick your own nick and stop being a troll baiter and I stop saying that your are a nick transposing lamer. [05:26] antiwire: stop smoking rot crack [05:26] 3) the slackbuild script always builds in /tmp somewhere (usually /tmp/SBo but not in slackware itself usually) [05:26] antiwire, it's just irc, no one cares [05:26] wire-anti, you were the one asking to go on webcam with me when i had zero idea who you were [05:26] 4) slackbuild scripts use the same architecture options as normal slackware[64] [05:26] you couldnt even answer my simple questions [05:26] when i went "lol why arent you antiwire?" [05:26] antiwire: i could create something like antlwire [05:27] slackid (n=willysr@125.163.251.150) joined ##slackware. [05:27] missyjane: info both nicks and see who is the first. [05:27] nah i know you are original antiwire :0 [05:27] Nick change: antiwire -> antlwire [05:27] guys [05:27] Nick change: antlwire -> antiwire [05:27] lol [05:27] GOING TO REBOOT PC [05:27] try now idiot [05:27] antiwire: just reg the name? lol [05:27] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [05:28] i have moar problems =D [05:28] antiwire: smartass I have millions combination in my mind .... [05:28] man, this day is not getting better [05:28] such an obvious windup [05:28] if this is all it takes to get someone upset is playing around with nicknames on IRC, your lives truly are pathetic [05:28] wire-anti: aren't you a wise one [05:28] slackytude: lol yet again a bad day huh? [05:28] what is the deal with programs that try to load implement libraries, and they tell me they can't use them because the file doesn't exists even though it does? [05:28] LF4: yeah [05:28] LF4: and Im tired [05:28] besides, if this is a troll, they thrive on attention. just put 'em on /ignore and don't give them what they want [05:28] TwinReverb: I think its funny. [05:29] TwinReverb: I think you shouldn't call people pathetic. [05:29] i think it's silly [05:29] You don't even know the background story. [05:29] ok, s/pathetic/silly [05:29] slackytude: sorry to hear that. [05:29] I think it's annoying as hell [05:29] dive: yes, yes it is. [05:29] don't make me get out my QBasic on you 8-) [05:29] RANDOMIZE TIMER [05:29] Action: LF4 changed nick to dlve [05:29] dive: what is the deal with programs that try to implement libraries, and they tell me they can't use them because the file doesn't exists even though it does? [05:29] ??? [05:30] complexmess, might be wrong version installed [05:30] antiwire: as long as you tell me whats so wrong with I use a nick similar to yours [05:30] complexmess, also after installing a lib run 'ldconfig' [05:30] what does that do? [05:31] wire-anti, because you are doing it on purpose just to annoy someone [05:31] not because you like the name [05:31] ok dive [05:31] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [05:31] gimme something to use then [05:31] numbnut? [05:31] hahaha [05:31] nonuts [05:31] I just cant understand why someone gets upset becouse of this [05:32] antiwire: must be a twelve perhaps [05:32] wire-anti, why assume? why not just ask? [05:32] wire-anti: some do and others don't its just respect. [05:32] dive: tyvm you solved my problem yet again [05:33] wire-anti: try the nick generator? [05:33] echo "`sort -R /usr/share/dict/words|head -1`|`sort -R /usr/share/dict/words|head -1`" [05:33] wire-anti: because it's confusing to other people. Initially I thought you were antiwire [05:33] Desmirrel (n=desmirre@82-46-78-218.cable.ubr06.stav.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:33] sample result: woodenly|concentrated [05:33] complexmess, yw [05:33] pprkut: lol yeah I did as well. [05:33] there should be a nickname generator [05:33] wait ... on facebook! (barf!) [05:33] I just pasted one... [05:34] TwinReverb: lol you rang? [05:34] well ... oh [05:34] Nick change: wire-anti -> woodenly [05:34] it does need bsd-games installed for the /usr/share/dict/words file [05:34] ah [05:34] still, random irc names tend to stick [05:34] so choose your nickname wisely [05:35] i should probably program a irc nickname generator [05:35] heh, mine was given to me by an ex-GF I haven't seen since like 1996 [05:35] granted we could all do the old-school thing like patrick volkerding and just "volkerdi" or whatever your last name is, etc [05:35] TwinReverb: use perl and a big wordlist lol [05:35] I don't like using my real name on IRC [05:35] lol [05:35] but like i said, random nicknames tend to stick [05:36] plus, my last name is pretty boring [05:36] Urchlay: really wonder why [05:36] you may get called woodenly for the rest of your irc "life" possibly [05:36] LF4: No real reason these days, but old habits die hard. [05:36] TwinReverb: actually i really liked it [05:36] just trying to get used to it [05:36] TwinReverb: haha I keep reading that as woody [05:36] that's because you're a pervert 8-P [05:36] "woodenly" isn't really that bad [05:37] it makes me think of Ed Wood, a bit [05:37] Action: TwinReverb prefers musical irc nicknames [05:37] TwinReverb: darn you found me out... im straterra :P [05:37] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [05:37] wait, wha..? straterra is a Mormon? [05:37] TwinReverb: I thought that was PREvert [05:37] shocking revelation! [05:37] haha [05:37] Haha Urchlay You acraully remembered huh? haha [05:38] Action: TwinReverb wonders what all our nicknames would be if we did like patrick [05:38] Nick change: woodenly -> IronMaiden [05:38] after a mental ill teenager from an asylum took the eyes of another teen, paraliyed, and ate them [05:38] Action: TwinReverb would be known as delahunt [05:38] Action: LF4 would be known as Rizzo [05:38] Keiffer: ugh, man, I had almost gotten that mental image out of my mind, and you had to go and say it again [05:38] a homeless man killed a dog by smashing it\s head and drinked its blood [05:38] then puts the organs in a jar [05:38] possibly he had seen "Interview with a Vampire" one too many times? [05:39] we know, we know, the world is full of sick fucks [05:39] dunno.. wicked world man [05:39] what do you want us to do about it? [05:39] snipe em? [05:39] make a script that parses them. [05:39] not enough lead in the world to make enough bullets [05:40] and nuclear weapons just lack a certain finesse [05:40] the use machetes. like in rwanda [05:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [05:41] eh, if you're the type person who would go on a killing spree, hacking thousands of people to death with a machete, then you're part of the problem [05:41] then you _are_ part of the problem? [05:41] I thought they were part of the solution [05:41] insert Nietsche quote here about those who battle monsters becoming monsters [05:41] Nick change: IronMaiden -> ecryptfs [05:42] also insert a "z" in the guy's name somewhere [05:42] woodenly: give it up man, your first instinct was better [05:42] you gotta admit, "woodenly" is pretty unique [05:42] I like woodenly :) [05:43] yeah, it has a certain ring to it [05:43] woody would be better, but I wouldn't want to besmirch toys [05:43] I promise not to become a monster [05:43] I will become a president [05:43] Keiffer: if you'd kill a lot of people with a machete, that qualifies you as a monster, by my definition [05:43] lol alisonken1noc when I think of woody I think of cheers the show and the disty guy :) [05:43] what's the difference? [05:43] Those who fight 11:33 < dive> not because you like the name [05:44] argh! [05:44] LF4: double entendre from where I'm from :) [05:44] slackytude: for a second I thought that was a biblical reference... The Book of Dive, Chapter 11, Verse 33 [05:44] Urchlay, I hope you dind't took it seriously... I saw that a lot of people in here take things too seriously [05:44] Keiffer: depends on the subject [05:45] Maybe it's like i said, a cultural difference [05:45] Keiffer: naw, I think I understand where you're coming from [05:45] alisonken1noc: haha true. [05:46] I'm gonna leave now and when I return nobody wont ever know who ever I was/am [05:46] BRB [05:46] Keiffer: Yes there is a subculture of IRC. [05:46] Those who fight monsters should take care that they never become one. For when you stand and look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you. [05:46] ecryptfs (n=ecnrdoi@unaffiliated/wire-anti) left irc: "The person who reads too much and uses his brain too little will fall into lazy habits of thinking." [05:46] slackytude: obrigado [05:46] nah, trying to put the nietsche stuff in put looks like I marked some text [05:46] slacktude, how deep [05:46] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:46] I can't believe he actualy registered that nick wire-anti. [05:47] lkky (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.56.251) joined ##slackware. [05:47] dive: maybe he didnt know? [05:47] lkky, wb [05:47] the name "antiwire" makes me think of the song "chemical wire", by ehmm, Firehose I think [05:47] Urchlay: the book of dive. lots of gore in there [05:47] lol wb lkky [05:47] what the hell [05:47] woodenly: we know it's you dude [05:47] yeah what? [05:47] slackytude: as long as it's not named al [05:47] it's supposed to be like i said [05:48] lkky: we've been using IRC for more then a day we know how thigns work. [05:48] how are things in us? [05:48] Keiffer: Going alright. [05:48] its not me [05:48] tho [05:48] Keiffer: eh, the part of it where I live, everybody's broke, but that's nothing new [05:48] lkky: prove it! [05:48] Action: LF4 sets auto-tab for lkky to be woodenly [05:48] noway [05:49] thats me should have asked prove it [05:49] nowai! [05:49] lkky: you'll figure it out soon enough. [05:49] nyuh-uh! I said it first! [05:49] And there will be even worst times. I not speaking like a "be affraid and ge redemption" christian [05:50] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [05:50] ok [05:50] wb [05:50] wb [05:50] wb missyjane what verson are you running now? [05:50] Keiffer: you don't need christianity to tell you the world's a bitter and hearless place [05:50] 12.1 [05:50] er, heartless [05:50] slackytude: and missyjane are in love .... <3 love in the air.... [05:51] love? *that's* what the weird smell is? [05:51] huh? [05:51] you need christianity to tell you, everything is gonna be alrit [05:51] dunno why my computer is so slow though [05:51] gotta go. duty calls [05:51] kinda fruity and rancid, like unwashed socks [05:51] nah, just didnt shower for some time [05:51] why is X running at 99% cpu? [05:51] lol Urchlay your way to close. [05:51] missyjane: because it hates you? [05:51] missyjane, something is borked [05:51] brb going to run xorgconfig [05:51] good plan [05:51] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Client Quit [05:52] I just noticed it's getting late, even forme [05:52] for me [05:52] Action: slackytude nods [05:52] lol [05:52] good night crazy people who live inside my computer [05:52] bye bye [05:52] nn [05:52] gnight Urchlay [05:52] lol everyone is staying up past their bed times today. [05:52] Urchlay: good night dream about us [05:52] I dont want to live inside Urchlay comp anymore [05:52] if you pray real hard to St. Turing, maybe one day you'll be real boys and girls [05:53] slackytude: Lets break out! [05:53] psst! wait till he sleeps [05:53] I get the lightbike [05:53] nifty [05:53] oh yeah... >_> shhhh... [05:53] hey, are you red dudes or blue dudes, inside my computer? [05:53] I'm purple! [05:53] I'm the green dude [05:53] RACIST ! [05:53] purple? half good, half evil? [05:53] Nick change: lkky -> Ikky [05:54] do you know if I can get the package for php-5.2.9 somewhere? 5.2.10 doesn't really work for us here. [05:54] you just can't trust those damn neutrals [05:54] slack 12.2 by the way. [05:54] Trust me :) [05:54] slava_dp, tried the slackware package browser? [05:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) joined ##slackware. [05:54] slava_dp: my first inclination would be to get the slackbuild script + source from slackware 12.1 or 12.0 (whichever has the version you want) and build it on 12.2 [05:55] php's one of those things I wouldn't expect to be binary-compatible with different builds of apache (I could be wrong, though) [05:55] anyway, that's it for me. Night folx. [05:56] Keiffer (n=root@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Leaving" [05:56] see ya [05:57] Urchlay: try UBIK to sleep better [05:57] fdsao (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.56.251) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Ikky (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.56.251) left ##slackware ("Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."). [05:57] Urchlay: harmless if applied correctly [05:57] fdsao (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.56.251) left irc: Client Quit [05:58] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-99bf21f061ccd148) left irc: [05:58] Ikky (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.56.251) joined ##slackware. [05:58] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*ecn*@189.82.56.251' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:58] Ikky kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Trolling people by changing nicks to resemble someone else. BAD. [05:58] praise the gods, its lunch break [05:58] :o [05:59] slackytude: lol have fun [05:59] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [05:59] i think im fine now... [05:59] hm.. [05:59] are you really? [06:00] :) my eyes are fine [06:00] so now e2fsck /dev/sdc7 and es2fsck /dev/sdc6 now [06:00] fdsao (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.104.245) joined ##slackware. [06:00] win 26 [06:01] LSD`: lol what? [06:01] /dev/sdb7 has been mounted 71 times without being checked, check forced. [06:01] check thta out [06:02] wow 71 thats rather large. [06:02] v4nelle (n=van@78-113-70.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:02] after this, one more check, then im rebooting pc, then everything should literally be voila [06:02] LF4, not really, i once went over 200+ without check lol [06:03] Nick change: fdsao -> lkky [06:03] lol how long did it take for you to get over 200? [06:04] if you reboot your pc everyday, you can get to that easily in a matter of weeks [06:04] which i used to do [06:04] lkky(woodenly): lol still having issues with finding a nick? [06:04] took me about 1 month to do 71 or so [06:05] LF4: i got this really [06:05] missyjane: ahh makes sense... my system gets rebooted randomly most of the time its +20 days [06:05] yeah hehe [06:05] LF4: uptime? [06:05] /dev/sda4 has been mounted 64 times without being checked, check forced. [06:05] sigh this will take me forever [06:05] i got sda, sdb, sdc [06:06] i should stop being lazy and start consolidating [06:06] oh wow [06:06] too much porn. [06:06] want my porn quasar? [06:06] they are good [06:06] some of the rarest, the best [06:06] rare ones that you cant get from jj.am or 4chan anymore [06:06] sure.. email them to me.. flag@whitehouse.gov [06:06] lol im NOT an enemy of obamas health care [06:06] good luck :p [06:06] lkky: Just rebooted it before work (did a few things). [06:06] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.68) joined ##slackware. [06:07] jj.am? [06:07] yeah im a camgirl, its only natural i know that place [06:07] (1.2% non-contiguous) [06:07] what does this mean? [06:07] haha i see [06:08] missyjane:it means 1.2% is not contiguous :) [06:08] lol whats contigious? [06:08] LF4: aaaaaaaaaaarhhhggg grrrr [06:08] i hate you [06:08] lkky: lol ok [06:08] missyjane: next or near in time or sequence [06:08] ooh [06:08] right next to each other [06:09] is that bad? [06:09] No thats good [06:09] hm [06:09] the more contiguous files the better, it means the HDD does not have to search all over the place for them. [06:09] bleh.. I wish there was a faster way to change the email address for the slackware mailing lists -_- [06:10] ooh [06:10] missyjane: it's an indication of inode links to files [06:10] lol alisonken1noc comes to save the day with the actaul tech talk :) [06:11] Action: missyjane hugs alisonken1noc [06:11] if you ever want a free blowjob just ask [06:11] Haha wow alisonken1noc and to think thats all you had to do. [06:12] too bad that doesn't work on the females irl :( [06:12] missyjane: keep on the path [06:12] ok [06:12] btw good morning alienBOB [06:13] alienBOB: what time is it there? [06:13] http://xkcd.com/528/ [06:13] old but nice [06:13] =) [06:13] I am just here to kill trolls, not for the conversation. [06:13] LF4: linux filesystem fragmentation is not the same as windows filesystem fragmentation [06:14] alienBOB: thank you. [06:14] does anyone here use nvidia? [06:14] alisonken1noc: that would explain why there is not defrag for linux :) [06:14] complexmess (n=complexm@adsl-76-192-131-201.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:14] missyjane: yes I do [06:14] do you know what digital vibrance setting is for? and if its ok to set it really high/max? [06:15] missyjane: I wouldn't know. Never had to deal with it. [06:15] The alien one flies in from remote celestial worlds wielding the great sword of bandom. [06:15] LF4, you didnt install the nvidia drivers? [06:15] antiwire, sorry who did he ban? [06:15] oh nvm sorry [06:16] missyjane: captain webcam troll [06:16] missyjane: I downloaded the binary's and ran it but don't remember getting that prompt. [06:16] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:16] antiwire, your loss [06:16] lol antiwire I did not even notice that he left lol [06:16] LF4, ok well open up nvidia settings and look under your GPU [06:16] Nah, I don't think I'm missing out on any webcam time with that dude. [06:17] missyjane: captain webcam troll <-- are you referring to me? [06:17] not you. [06:17] the dude who transposed my nick [06:18] why is he a webcam troll then? [06:18] forget it. [06:18] missyjane: this guy nuts [06:18] he just hates me , i dont know why [06:18] brb [06:18] lol [06:18] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [06:19] must be a 9 [06:19] frankly [06:20] Keiffer (n=root@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [06:20] LF4: ok - doing some more reading, it looks like they are similar. the difference is how files are allocated back to disk on write [06:20] Keiffer: did you get the ssh working yet? [06:20] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [06:20] Nick change: lkky -> Ikky [06:21] alisonken1noc: nice to know :) now is that fat or ntfs and ext3? [06:21] antiwire, no... It's working fine when connecting from localhost, but by internet... connection timed out [06:21] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:21] ok back [06:21] antiwire: he needs to check his home connection. Its a networking issues I'm sure of it. [06:21] wb missyjane [06:21] Keiffer: did you forward the ports on the router? [06:21] LF4: yeah [06:21] LF4: ext3 is journaled ext2 [06:21] i don't have access to the router [06:21] it's my ISP's router [06:21] Keiffer: at all? [06:21] ah [06:22] well you're done for. you have to get sneaky then [06:22] I will. but first i have to know how [06:22] you can do a reverse ssh shell or try to tunnel out inside of an allowed protocol or port # [06:22] reverse ssh FTW [06:22] it depends on how they are filtering [06:22] Keiffer: just call them and ask to have the port you want to forward setup. [06:23] hm [06:23] slackytude antiwire I'm sure his work is probably blocking incomming ssh traffic. [06:23] I can't. Cause when I payed the bill they said me to not spoof ip and sniff again. [06:23] so i am ashame [06:24] LF4: oh I thought it was his house. [06:24] Keiffer: hahahaha [06:24] oh man that's awesome [06:24] missyjane: I see what you mean with the digital vibrance. my best guess would be its to adjust the LCD monitors. You know how some can be out of sync sort of? [06:24] antiwire, the guy is from romania [06:24] LF4, yep :) [06:24] missyjane, so? [06:25] Keiffer: your ISP did a reverse pwn on you [06:25] antiwire: No he's trying to do what I am doing right now haha. Work === SSH === Home ---> Internet [06:25] Keiffer, your people have tons of script kiddies [06:25] Keiffer: did you actually spoof and sniff or was it a mistake? [06:25] no.. i had a laptop and called them to enable the mac address. they assigned me another IP. but i didn\t heard the part with "just for today" [06:26] I changed my mac, run wireshark and sniffed all 200 machines [06:26] arp poisoning em [06:26] dude. [06:26] a lot of data [06:26] talk about red flags [06:26] lol [06:26] antiwire, yea hes a script kiddie [06:27] you arp poisoned you own ISP [06:27] lol [06:27] that's insane... [06:27] why is that insane? [06:27] :D I should try that. [06:27] why.. they wont charge you or anything [06:27] because arp poisoning just a small subnet is enough traffic to deal with, let alone a whole subnet from an ISP node [06:27] they rape you in the ass [06:28] he probably killed performance hardcore, a mini DoS on that subnet [06:28] with sandpaper no less [06:28] well [06:28] depending on how well they have their network the ARP poisoning might not have done anything. [06:28] no i didn't. it lasted just 15 min [06:28] missyjane: arp poisoning sent ALL that traffic through his crappy home system [06:29] why would he do that? [06:29] ... [06:29] to get some packets and inspect them [06:29] to learn [06:29] you don't need to arp poison to do that dude [06:29] lol Keiffer its better to collete a few at a time. [06:29] i don't want to inspect my own packets [06:29] arp poisoning on that scale is not easy to pull off in a sane manner [06:30] I thought you were doing it to bring down the network lol not to collect packets haha [06:30] "that scale"... what scale... here everybody does wtf they want on the net. police is not really interested [06:31] if you go into bank fraud, scams, probably they will [06:31] Keiffer: thats a good attitude [06:31] Keiffer: arp poisoning has nothing to with police [06:31] that scale of oh..sending a whole node's traffic through you shitty home computer...yeah that scale [06:31] Keiffer: break stuff, nobody cares [06:31] Keiffer: cant do anything you want... lol your ssh isn't working. [06:31] I didn\t said it has [06:31] no wonder people look down on europeans [06:31] esp ppl from tu rkey and romania [06:31] missyjane: O_o [06:32] LF4, i'm not the type that does everthing he wants. or as slackdude sais, break cause nobody cares [06:33] missyjane, I don't care how people look at europeans, or romanians in particullary. [06:33] Keiffer: "[03:31:52] "that scale"... what scale... here everybody does wtf they want on the net. police is not really interested" [06:33] Keiffer: look man, the ISP did what was in their best interest. if they see someone route a whole node's worth if traffic back through themselves they will certainly flip out. that doesn't mean the police will show up but it does mean they will end your service or at the very least filter the hell out of it. [06:33] that indicates police [06:34] antiwire, yes, you say that cause you live in US. or other civilised country [06:34] whatever man [06:34] The US is not all that civilizaed either [06:34] lol true [06:34] yea, should have used "" [06:34] goddamn [06:34] FINALLY [06:34] finished installing everything [06:35] missyjane: image the system. [06:35] alienBOB, ever live in other coutnries? [06:35] LF4, why? [06:35] And if by mistake i would have damage anything, i claim myself responsable [06:35] But fscking with your ISP's network or any other network that is not yours, is not something to be proud of [06:35] so you dont have to install ever again if you attempt to try new things haha [06:35] missyjane: I have been to other countries, but not _lived_ in other countries [06:36] why do you say us is not that civilized? [06:36] I do not live in the US, either [06:36] we, i'm not proud. nor ashame. i take things as they are [06:36] where do you liev? [06:36] missyjane: look at the lawbooks lately? [06:36] Someplace else [06:36] k [06:36] alisonken1noc, no [06:36] Keiffer: I wasn't knocking you or the country you live in. I was just pointing out that the ISP did what most ISPs would do [06:37] you poison a whole node, they'll crack the whip [06:37] I probably beat you all with civilized countries... South Africa(developing)? [06:37] They did? asked me not to do that again? i think other would have raped me in the ass [06:37] my mother did service in south africa LF4 [06:37] as someone said [06:37] civilized usually indicates some sort of comparative living. look at how many people get screwed because of business decisions and lobbyists getting laws changed to benefit business rather than people [06:37] missyjane: what type of service? [06:37] missyjane, army? [06:37] Keiffer, no, peace corps [06:37] I can't even begin to imagine the amount of traffic you aimed at yourself [06:37] missyjane: your comment about "people looking down on europeans" - it may be born out of ignorance. Looking down, why? [06:38] That is nice. [06:38] Keiffer: was it lit up or what? [06:38] i bet the blinking light was straight up on fire [06:38] antiwire, the proc was at 99/100. and the data was about 500 mb [06:39] lol [06:39] antiwire: lol it turned from the blinking green to a solid red. [06:39] in total [06:39] oh man [06:40] alienBOB, 1 - i thought you didnt want to talk about it since you said "lived somewhere else" and seemed rather hostile to me other times, 2 - i dont want to brag but lets just say i understand many culture, a lot of people dislike the europeanas (despite what you might think, the world does not hate america) 3 - european "did this" to themselves, in many ways [06:40] if you wish to talk about this indepth i dont mind talking about this in pm [06:41] my perspective are from three places - asia, africa, and america, mostly america as i was born/raised here [06:41] valvola (n=fabiovio@193.204.78.80) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:41] Gary (i=gary@freenode/staff/colchester-lug.gary) joined ##slackware. [06:42] missyjane, how old are you? [06:42] Keiffer: wrong question to ask your wife :) [06:42] hes not my husband [06:42] anymore [06:42] and im old enough [06:42] divorced. free [06:43] ok - "wrong question to ask a female", then [06:43] lol [06:43] ok, never mind. was just trying to point out that either you are ignorant, either very young [06:43] and I _did_ add a smiley [06:44] you can't say about europeans that they are this way or that way [06:44] Keiffer: define "very young" - since you have to be over legal age to be in the peace corps, and they require several years of service [06:44] peace corps folks now require a college degree, my mother went in without one i believe and came out with one [06:44] and they want to make it stricter [06:45] she said that her mother was in peace corps not herself [06:45] the peace corps is very prestigious and if you can get int, it will help with your graduate studies tremendously [06:46] missyjane: my cousin did that and he is going to school now. What he got out of the Corps was a wife haha. [06:46] marine corps? [06:46] missyjane: peace [06:46] usually when people capitalize Corps, they refer to that [06:46] ok [06:46] missyjane: lol yeah good point haha its late. [06:47] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.135) left irc: "Leaving" [06:47] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [06:47] hmm.. if I have a shell script that only contains `kdedialog --title "some title" --msgbox "some message"` .. how can I run that shell script as root for another user? I tried sudo -u but it's not working (has to be from either root or a very underpriviledged user) [06:47] Hello! [06:48] quasar: su -c 'commands here' [06:48] missyjane, you're still mad with me? [06:48] kdialog: cannot connect to X server [06:48] Keiffer, no, just annoyed [06:49] quasar: you need to export the display to root [06:49] why is that? [06:50] quasar 'as root for another user'? elaborate on that. [06:50] Ikky (n=ecnrdoi@unaffiliated/wire-anti) left irc: K-lined [06:50] ananke: kdialog needs to be ran from root, but I'm not root in kde [06:50] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:51] hello everyone [06:51] hi Lord_Khelben [06:51] quasar : so use 'sudo ' [06:51] ananke: scroll up [06:51] quasar : given that you have sudo properly configured [06:51] hello missyjane :) [06:52] quasar : scrolling up won't make your question any less vague. you were trying to execute it as some other user. you're either executing is as some other user, or as root. you can't have both [06:52] and X display doesn't like other people to use your display withouth authorization [06:52] Gary (i=gary@freenode/staff/colchester-lug.gary) left ##slackware. [06:55] i cant wait [06:55] for what? [06:55] I wanna go home now [06:55] I can has freedom now? [06:55] sorry wrong window [06:56] slackytude: no you are bound to the ring. [06:56] alisonken1home, was talking to someone about the changes in the neighbor [06:56] LF4: :( [06:56] This is one method you can use you export the X display and token: xauth merge /home/$user_running_x_here/.Xauthority && export DISPLAY=:0.0 [06:56] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:56] missyjane: "... changes in the neighbor"? [06:56] lol how much longer do you have slackytude ? [06:56] missyjane, why are you annoyed with me? and why are you avoiding answering? [06:56] LF4: 4 hours [06:57] alisonken1home, yeah they want to renovate the entire neighbor again or something, new stores, etc [06:57] slackytude: Oh sorry lol you started 1hr after me. [06:57] ok [06:57] Keiffer, because i dont like you? :) [06:57] something new to me, then [06:57] LF4: :( [06:58] missyjane, why? cause I'm such a bad character? [06:58] yes you are [06:58] slackytude: What are you up to right now? [06:58] Keiffer: if intentionally arp-poisoning your isp is any indication ..... [06:58] Keiffer : why do you seek validation from some random person on irc? [06:59] LF4: not much, boss and second boss aint here. just hanging around now [06:59] validation? [06:59] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-196887.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving." [06:59] you have bosses at graveshift? [06:59] Nick change: antiwire -> wire-anti [06:59] I can live with myself. But you should not say that ALL people are the same, if one is bad, missyjane [06:59] Nick change: wire-anti -> antiwire [07:00] lol [07:00] LF4: Im not at grvashit, Im in europe [07:00] all better [07:00] antiwire, are you really antiwire now? [07:00] yes it's me [07:00] ananke, validation? [07:00] check the info [07:00] Keiffer : yes, validation [07:00] haha slackytude sorry forgot :/ [07:00] the other guy got k-lined [07:00] I don't understand that.. [07:00] Keiffer, no but ive met a lot of arrogant europeans and thats based on personal experience so i apologize if it rubbed off, just too many chav in the internet chatroom and all [07:00] LF4: no sweat, dude [07:00] (2009-08-07 03:50:42) Ikky left the room (quit: K-lined). [07:00] antiwire: lol actaully the other guy is still here just under a different name. [07:00] oh i didnt even know ikky was that person, why did he pretend to be you? [07:01] lol [07:01] Keiffer : you're seeking her approval. [07:02] missyjane, it's ok. i'm not the one u applogiye to. but the rest of europeans... do that evertytime when you meet one [07:02] missyjane: I don't know [07:02] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.54.97) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Keiffer, no thanks :) [07:02] i'll be back lol taking my lunch if you can call 5am lunch haha [07:02] ananke, aaa... like a wuss. should have told me that way [07:02] LF4: have fun :D [07:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [07:02] Keiffer : i told you in a way i thought to be the most precise [07:03] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433276.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:03] yea [07:03] english isnt his first language ananke [07:03] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433276.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:03] i didn't have the luck to be [07:04] to be or not to be [07:05] ye gods [07:05] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-147-63.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:05] another round of windows updates [07:05] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.54.97) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:06] slackytude, why do you bother with the windows update? [07:06] chmod + /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall, i think i have that right? [07:06] whoops +x [07:06] i have a bad day i think.. people questioning my character. [07:06] right. because firewall is the answer to _all_ security related issues [07:07] and my ssh still wont work [07:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [07:07] ananke, um... its not, why are you being sarcastic with me? [07:07] i just reinstalled slackware, i dont remember everything [07:08] missyjane : because the close proximity of your two statements suggests a relationship between them [07:08] suggests what? [07:08] missyjane: that enables the firewall script on bootup, yes [07:08] slackytude, why do you bother with the windows update? -> chmod + /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall, i think i have that right? -> one can read that as rc.firewall is an answer to windows updates [07:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [07:09] ananke, he just needs, for the most part, the latest service pack which will come with all the updates and patches, etc [07:09] using windows update and installing one patch at a time is slow and a pita [07:10] and it looks like you just woke up, i just finished reinstalling the computer, wrote a nice script and cant remember if i got the chmod +x right [07:10] missyjane : windows update provides service packs. that doesn't solve the issue of patches/updates that came after the service pack [07:10] it doesnt but service pack provides ALL patches and updates that came prior that service pack, so if youo update to the latest, youll get all the sp up to that plus some more (which shouldnt be more) [07:11] judgin by what he siad earlier, he said he has done windows update for a long time (making it seem like he was doing unnecessary updates when all he needed for the most part was the latest sp) [07:11] missyjane : windows update does service packs [07:11] but it also includes patches that you don't always want as wel [07:11] i know it does and the whole thing should take no more than 15 min or so [07:11] alisonken1noc, meh, you can disable that in administrator later [07:11] ananke, he has been at it for about 2 hours or so [07:11] speed of applying service packs greatly depends on the connection and machine speed [07:11] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-21.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:12] ananke: and how many reboots are required [07:12] psh i did the updates on my laptop from sp1 to 3 and all the updates/patches in about 15 min [07:12] only 2 [07:12] alisonk1: more than one, that's for sure [07:12] one for sp, one for patches/updates [07:12] ok - I admit - I forgot the :) on that one [07:12] lol [07:13] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-21.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:14] do you guys own firearms? [07:14] [ot] the new kde 4.3.0 air theme is nice (but not so nice that everyone said in the web reviews) [07:14] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-21.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:15] firearms/knives/etc are illegal here (Greece) [07:15] used to - but the wife won't let me replace my old .45 [07:15] like in the most of europe [07:15] Lord_Khelben, that sucks, you should see if you can go into a place that allows gun, shooting is amazing [07:15] alisonken1noc, , why wont she? [07:15] rifles are legal only with a hunting permit [07:15] Lord_Khelben : hmm, i've been meaning to try that today. i think i'll just create a distro with suse studio and explore that way [07:15] she doesn't like them, and I'm no longer active dutyu [07:15] Lord_Khelben, same in romania [07:16] ananke: i left it to build over night. it was built quite fast [07:16] alisonken1noc, active? [07:16] alisonken1noc, pmng you [07:16] retired 13 years ago [07:16] cool [07:16] Keiffer, unlike some of you europeans, americas military is 100% volunteer :) [07:16] missyjane: np [07:17] missyjane: i have used firearms/rifles in the past. i didn't hate shooting but i didn't love it either (and i hate hunters that shoot animals) [07:17] missyjane, i don't know if you have an update on that. is volunteer too here [07:17] Lord_Khelben, i dont hunt, but i know enough to defend myself with a weapon [07:17] damn my english [07:18] alisonken1noc, where did u served? [07:18] Keiffer, some, but some european countries still have compulsory military service [07:18] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:19] they added "device actions" that many people wanted, printscreen key still doesn't work. these are the first two things i noticed in the 10mins i use it [07:19] some, but they will ablosh that in a few years. [07:19] abolish [07:19] missyjane: here military service is mandatory but now it is 9months only [07:19] Keiffer, not all, many still want it back [07:19] as a contingency [07:19] my last couple of ships were cruisers on western pacific cruises to the indian ocean. also participated in dester storm [07:19] on my last ship [07:20] Lord_Khelben, thats not too bad, i wanted to serve too [07:20] missyjane: yeah right. i forgot about the "military scientist" thing :) [07:20] Lord_Khelben, no, to be honest, i have medical issue (lung) [07:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [07:20] i cant run long distance without needing air and dying and some allergen will kill me, literally [07:20] sorry to hear about that [07:21] isn't it curable ? [07:21] i couldnt even settle for enlisted let alone officer [07:21] nope [07:21] incurable [07:21] immune system problem basicaly [07:21] missyjane, asthma? [07:22] the important thing is your health [07:22] not being able to enlist in the army is the least [07:22] wanna tell you a story? [07:22] Keiffer, a very specific asthma, it can cause my whole body to literally break down on me [07:23] i could carry a 100lb gear (which weighs about how much i weigh) [07:23] then on the next second drop like a stone [07:23] no warning [07:23] great fun [07:23] missyjane, i had many problems. big ones. and all cured by... sports [07:23] Keiffer, cool [07:23] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:23] done with precaution, but sustained [07:23] i run, if that helps, but it doesnt cure it [07:24] the "precaution" is the difficult thing. [07:24] know when to stop [07:24] when i was young, doctors didn\t allow me to run 50 yds, [07:24] and someday i really couldnt stay this way and went to a martial arts club [07:25] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [07:25] and that was the start [07:25] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-21.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:25] hm, to think that if i didnt have any health problems, i wouldnt be here, id probably be having the time of my life [07:25] sensei told me once, in a low grade competition: you're sick at your home, not in my dojo [07:25] and i did that [07:26] your teacher is a mcdojo, no? [07:26] that is, your school [07:26] missyjane, you still can't. [07:26] can [07:26] uh no, i wouldnt make it past mep [07:26] hi missyjane Keiffer :) [07:26] hi init[1] [07:26] i dont think you understand how us military work [07:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [07:26] miles hilton barber [07:26] you cant just go in the military just based on will alone [07:27] you need to qualify, pass asvab, among a million other things [07:27] yea, not the military. but you can still enjoy your life [07:27] that was my dream too. and they said i can\t do it cause of my health record [07:28] oh i guess, if you consider sitting at home with no decent opportunities a good life [07:28] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [07:28] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [07:28] then started to go at this skydiving club [07:28] hi guys, i ve isntalled the new xorg-server and when the x starts my kbd and touchpad doesno work [07:28] joined the team and... [07:29] that\s about it... [07:29] init[1], hi [07:29] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:29] x1user: using default xorg.conf setup? [07:29] aa... finaly .. Keiffer :) [07:29] sorry [07:30] x1user: if you updated xorg, you may want to backup your xorg.conf and start fresh [07:30] alisonkenloc: ive tried to AllowInputDevices "off" but no change [07:30] I was doing some motivational speaking here. Not sure if anyone read it, but it's good for me [07:30] reading what i say [07:30] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.68) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:30] Keiffer: so you wrote all this just to read it yourself ? :) [07:31] x1user: can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [07:31] yea, basically [07:31] i like corn too Keiffer [07:31] corn? [07:31] i cant paste anything it is on the other box i can connect to internet but how to upload the files somewhere ?! [07:32] lynx can upload to rapidshare [07:32] cant [07:33] x1user: you can do cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc -q 2 adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr 6850 [07:33] this will send me the file and i can pastebin it for you [07:34] Xorg.0.log doesn't have any sensitive information we shouldn't see so you don't have anything to fear [07:35] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-30-158.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [07:35] ok thanks i will send both files [07:35] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "brb" [07:36] ok then do cat file1 file2 | nc (and the rest options) [07:36] cat Xorg.0.log > /dev/null will show everyone in dev null your file [07:37] those sneaky bastards in null [07:37] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:37] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [07:37] the usual ironic stasipro but with a more appropriate nick now [07:37] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:37] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:38] Lord_Khelben: stasipro? [07:38] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [07:38] [07:39] DERP [07:39] Lord_Khelben: did you get it [07:39] x1user: yes i got it [07:40] i send the xorg.conf also but conection was refused [07:40] http://pastebin.org/7202 x1user's xorg.0.log [07:40] ok going to dream, good morning all [07:40] x1user: yes the connection exists only for one time [07:40] bye missyjane [07:40] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [07:41] x1user: what slackware version are you running ? [07:41] 1.21 2.6.31-rc2 [07:41] 12.1 [07:41] ##Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new [07:42] you said "installed the new xorg" and i supposed you run -current [07:42] x1user: how did you ran X ? did you run X -configure ? [07:42] i dont got xorg.conf.new there [07:43] this xorg is generated from X -configure [07:43] i fixed some things while trying to get it working [07:43] so you have copied /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [07:44] no, i did nothins with /root/xorg.conf.new i dont got such file [07:44] this log you pasted appears to be from "X -configure" [07:44] so it should have created a file there [07:45] as the log says [07:45] i can turn the ssh on [07:45] x1user: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | nc -q 2 adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr 6850 [07:45] don't offer people ssh access to your box [07:46] but there is nothing on this box [07:46] Keiffer (n=root@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Leaving" [07:46] it doesn't matter. they can still do harm [07:46] true [07:46] run the command i gave you to send me the xorg.conf [07:46] ok i will upload the xorg.conf [07:46] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:47] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [07:47] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [07:47] root (n=root@92.81.99.210) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Yalla-One (n=yalla1@unaffiliated/yalla-one) joined ##slackware. [07:47] http://pastebin.org/7205 [07:47] Nick change: root -> Guest44015 [07:47] greetings [07:48] hello Yalla-One [07:49] x1user: i may be wrong but i don't think this xorg.conf would give that xorg.0.log [07:49] lvillani (n=lvillani@adsl-ull-214-40.49-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [07:49] huh? [07:50] x1user, whens school get back? [07:50] try running X -configure and then follow the instructions [07:51] and see if with the produced xorg.conf.new it is working [07:51] Polarbrod (n=p0lak@lgh7.fornfyndet.se) joined ##slackware. [07:51] Guest44015 (n=root@92.81.99.210) left irc: Client Quit [07:52] now i should try with than xorg.conf.new? [07:52] did it produce the new file ? [07:52] yes [07:52] ok then try with this conf [07:53] the mouse and kbd is not working but the resolution is ok [07:54] how real is this http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9489/1249589749hugeslideandj.gif [07:54] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:55] x1user: ok for the mouse but the keyboard should work for all cases [07:55] unfortuantely not [07:55] SarcasticIrony: cool [07:55] check the new /var/log/Xorg.0.log [07:55] i can send you the log with the new xorg.conf [07:55] what errors does itm mentiont [07:55] ok but i need to reboot first [07:56] the box frozes =/ [07:56] lvillani (n=lvillani@adsl-ull-214-40.49-151.net24.it) left irc: "leaving" [07:56] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) joined ##slackware. [07:57] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:58] Lord_Khelben the log shows older version of xxorg? [07:59] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*ecn*@189.82.56.251 expired. [07:59] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*ecn*@189.82.56.251' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:59] 1.4.90 i think [07:59] wrong it is 1.4.0.90 [07:59] 1.4.0.90 [07:59] yes [08:00] I see the part about that xorg detext mouse at /dev/input/mice to [08:01] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:01] i think to try again AlloInputDevices off but in xorg.conf.new [08:01] fukhed (i=shthed@203-59-206-34.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:02] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:02] _jhw_ (n=_jhw_@p548F48AD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:02] <_jhw_> hi [08:02] AllowInputDevices "true" [08:04] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-147-63.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:04] Hey, how do i install sw on a eee 900 with one 4 gbb usb [08:04] ? [08:04] ? [08:04] this is the small laptop-like thingie ? [08:04] i second that question [08:04] that doesn't have a cd drive ? [08:05] nope [08:05] no cd [08:05] and yes small lt [08:05] ok then [08:05] Polarbrod, there's a app that makes your usb bootable with slackware [08:05] you can make a bootable usb flash disk [08:05] and use that to install slack [08:06] but i don't think a full install will fit in 4gb (i can't remember though) [08:06] dont do a full install [08:06] is there anyway you could do an ftp install? [08:06] if you put one arch its only 1.6GB (without source/) [08:07] wait a minute 4gb usb is a flash ? [08:07] not the laptops hard disk ? [08:07] no harddrive is ssd [08:07] Polarbrod: what capacity ? [08:08] hmm, dont know? [08:08] quasar is right then [08:08] i thought your hard disk is 4gb [08:08] i think the iso is less that 4GB [08:09] So what to do then? [08:09] you can boot off the usb disk then and install slack fine [08:09] you can ofcourse do a ftp install [08:09] where to get it? [08:09] but don't use slackware.com use a mirror close to you [08:09] lvillani (n=lvillani@adsl-ull-214-40.49-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [08:09] alienBOB, u there ? [08:10] Polarbrod, alienBOB have a howto of what u want [08:10] Polarbrod: ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [08:10] i've seen it , but cant remember link [08:11] DeeeeP: you mean this http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/ ? [08:11] ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/ [08:11] no? [08:11] woot.. new virtual email address specifically for slackware mailing lists, and a script to do a kdialog when that addy gets new mail :D [08:12] shthed (i=shthed@unaffiliated/kingidle) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [08:12] Polarbrod: the iso is meant to be burnt on a cd/dvd [08:12] so you can't use that [08:12] yes , Lord_Khelben [08:12] you need what DeeeeP said [08:13] ok [08:13] Polarbrod: have in mind that these usb images overwrite the filesystem on the usb flash disk [08:14] so if you have data in the 4gb flash disk copy them [08:14] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-223-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:14] ok thanks [08:16] you can use unetbooting if you want the iso in a usb [08:16] s/unetbooting/unetbootin [08:17] i've tryed unetbootin and wouldnt work [08:19] they call it "roasting" coffee beans... I call it burning [08:19] sorry for being such a noob, but i cant figrue out what to do [08:20] Polarbrod: ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [08:21] this is the easiest way if you have a quick connection and want to do ftp install [08:21] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:22] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [08:23] if you only have windows (i suppose this is the case) then you can use http://shounen.ru/soft/flashnul/flashnul-1rc1.zip for copying the image to the usb flash disk [08:24] winimage shareware program can do the same thing [08:28] Good Morning !! [08:28] where do i fins the image? im using eeebuntu now [08:29] in that case why do you let me say all those things :P [08:29] follow the README_USB.TXT i pasted [08:29] ok [08:30] monstro (n=monstro@201-43-250-105.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:34] i think there was an issue with their certificates being valid only for a low number [08:34] init[1]: they did not. [08:35] i got in firefox once that the gmail certificate has expired [08:35] some days ago [08:35] ummm [08:35] some days before that means last week .. [08:35] well,.. [08:35] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] the certificate i get now last till march 2010 [08:36] the certificate i get now lasts till march 2010 [08:36] i think i will switch to imap [08:36] init[1]: good idea. [08:36] bit paranoid if sm one is eves droping [08:36] init[1]: it works much better anyway [08:36] Yalla-One (n=yalla1@unaffiliated/yalla-one) left irc: "Leaving" [08:36] Firefox says that the gmail cert is valid until the same time [08:36] google tracking cookie is valid till 2038 [08:37] SarcasticIrony: try to set your system date to 2039 lets see what would happen [08:37] :P [08:37] mostly google would send another one .. [08:38] mostly i dont get them in the first place [08:38] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [08:38] SarcasticIrony: you never use google ? [08:38] how is time represented in certs anyway? [08:38] no, and if i did i block cookies and javascript spam [08:38] NaCl: sm kinda meta data [08:38] javascript is not spam [08:39] thumbs: he might have ment the adds based on js [08:39] javascript runs all kinds of phone home stuff [08:39] ads based on js, and tracking stuff [08:39] 2038 is when the 32-bit time_t will overflow [08:39] google analytics, urchin, etc [08:40] Adblock blocks google analytics too. [08:40] and noscript [08:40] but gmail is cool. forget the cookie. [08:41] i'm looking to backup a windows box here at work via live cd. a dd will work, but i want somethign that understands filesystems so that all the dead blocks aren't copied. any suggestions? [08:41] amazon10x: dd | gzip [08:42] slackytude: dead blocks arent zeroes; they have crap left over from what was there before [08:43] i read that you can do a `dd if=/dev/zero of=tmpfile; rm tmpfile` to fill up the empty space with zeroes [08:43] so that compression would work better. but i'm wondering if there's a better tool [08:43] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:43] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433276.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:45] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:45] amazon10x, ntfsclone [08:45] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Action: init[1] listening to backstreet boys ,Aslong as you love me :) [08:46] Action: slackytude slaps init[1] [08:46] :( [08:47] they are nice , ain't they? [08:47] slackytude: ^ [08:47] init[1]: I'm surprised you haven't commited suicide. [08:47] Action: slackytude slaps init[1] again, harder [08:48] Action: init[1] is in love with cmus :P [08:48] init[1], if your love is too long it bruises the prostate [08:48] Action: init[1] listening to backstreet boys ,Show me the meaning :) [08:48] lol init[1] cmus is cool but even so it does not make the backstreet boys cool. [08:48] agredd [08:49] wb LF4 [08:49] thanks slackytude :) [08:49] one hour to got for you, eh, LF4 [08:49] LF4: we must not forget that band :) even westlife [08:49] s/got/go [08:49] SarcasticIrony: that's perfect. thanks [08:49] Almost.. :D 1hr and 10 mins (not that I am counting) [08:49] course not ;) [08:50] init[1]: backstreet boys, westlife, Nsync....how about hanson? haha [08:50] slackytude: has things improved? [08:50] if I had a timemachine Id go back in time and prevent backstreet boys from ever existing. [08:50] LF4: there was a rush of stupid things to do, now its ok again [08:51] Haha I just got kicked from wiihelp :P [08:51] slackytude: oh lol nice [08:51] mmm bop bop bop smash a wop [08:51] LF4: the madness is catching [08:52] slackytude: apparently haha [08:52] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:53] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [08:54] Action: init[1] listening to MJ ,Beat it :) [08:54] LF4: anything happening in the graveyard? [08:54] mmm billy dean breakfast bowel [08:55] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [08:55] slackytude: Na quiet just the way I like it, I brought my laptop and started moving all my files to one location for backing up then I am going to reformat the whole drive again. [08:55] SarcasticIrony: are you SirBobBobBob? [08:55] LF4: fun [08:56] init[1], hell maybe [08:56] init[1]: yes [08:56] wow, [08:56] haha yeah I guess, I wish it was my friday... but I have work tonight :P [08:56] thats what she said' [08:56] LF4: sad [08:56] LF4: is that usual? [08:57] strippers make most of their money on a friday night [08:57] slackytude: lol yeah I work Monday-Friday but my work starts at 11pm lol so it ends Sat morning. [08:57] LF4: oh of course [08:58] lol got to love the modding community.-!- lf4 was kicked from #wiihelp by WiiHelp [Dykam: No knowledge from here for you.] [08:58] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [08:59] LF4, the community is not the douchebags that control the irc channel [08:59] does anyone know how to read rworkman's blog through RSS with snownews without a plugin? it seems to be the only one i have added that fails to do that [09:00] SarcasticIrony: Haha true thats why I laughed, they just want to have some "control" over anything. [09:00] yeap [09:00] Sometimes the douchebags that control an irc channel are the only means to save the channel from trolls and other scum... [09:00] the most egotistical sociopathical elitists douche nozzles rise to the top [09:01] LF4: that was not directed at you btw [09:01] yeah fascism for security! [09:01] all tyranny is done in the name of the children and security [09:01] alienBOB: true but I was asking lagit questions lol I was avoiding what I really wanted to ask. [09:01] haha alienBOB I know :) [09:02] LF4: and what did you _really_ want to ask? [09:02] alisonken1noc: about backing up disks on a USB drive. lol I found a few sites though that explain it. [09:03] ah [09:03] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:03] I got addicted to no-disk-swaping with my Xbox that I wanted to do the same with the wii. [09:03] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [09:03] hey nix_chix0r :) hows it going? [09:04] getting paid to wait on rsync ftw [09:04] SarcasticIrony: haha nice :) [09:05] k [09:06] y0 nix_chix0r [09:08] Polarbrod (n=p0lak@lgh7.fornfyndet.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:08] Has anyone setup a SoftRAID5 in slackware? [09:08] Action: slackytude shakes head [09:09] slackytude: up/down or side to side? [09:09] haha [09:09] side to side ^- [09:10] my dog shakes his head side to side for yes [09:10] he's an idiot [09:10] SarcasticIrony: Haha i think you need to retrain your dog. [09:11] i say, "you want a treat" and he does the head shake [09:11] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] anyone know how to check that ntp is using authentication? [09:12] maybe he is confused and thinks his head is his tail. [09:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.1) joined ##slackware. [09:12] lotec: huh, ntp with auth? [09:12] never seen that [09:13] Nick change: mintee -> hidemint [09:13] yea using md5 [09:13] Nick change: hidemint -> hiddenmint [09:13] O_o [09:13] keys file [09:13] lotec: you have the keys in /etc/ntp/? [09:13] Nick change: hiddenmint -> invisablemnt [09:13] just need to see if there is a way to make sure the client is actually using the file [09:13] LF4 yep [09:13] Nick change: invisablemnt -> mintee [09:13] people apparently think if they call in and let the phone ring long enough someone will pick it up before opening hours [09:14] SarcasticIrony: What that doesn't happen? lol [09:14] lotec: it should work if you entered the key correctly. [09:14] and i set client [09:14] and there associating [09:14] all i know is that im not going to answer it, and i hope its my boss [09:14] LF4 no way to check though? [09:15] lotec: Looking in to it. [09:16] i have checked google. tryed wireshark. dont see any traffic passing [09:16] on client i set ntpd -t trusted-key 2 [09:18] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:19] lotec: interesting [09:19] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:19] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [09:19] using slack as that server. set the key file in /etc/ntp/ntp.keys [09:20] configured ntp.conf with directory of keys and uncomm trustedkey and set the keys [09:21] restarted both ntp demons [09:21] lotec: sounds like you did everything correct, how often will it check the NTP to set the time? [09:21] onced a day it looks like [09:21] o and i set the restrict to the ipaddress [09:22] gtludwig (n=Nelson@189.114.201.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:22] yow people [09:22] YOW! [09:22] LF4 i just cant believe there is not a cmd to make sure it is checking it is actually using the key [09:23] its called loglevel [09:24] lotec: you have wireshark flitering only ports 123? [09:24] SarcasticIrony: that would be to easy ;) [09:24] yer [09:25] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:26] LF4: You could NEVAR be me [09:26] Urchlay: I am not mormon..by a long shot [09:27] straterra: just catching up :) [09:27] haha straterra :) hey [09:27] kb3rmq (n=casey@pool-151-201-224-130.pitt.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] straterra, too many m's [09:27] moron not mormon [09:28] 8-P [09:28] I'm not a moron either :) [09:28] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:28] details schmetails! [09:28] :P [09:29] haha nice one TwinReverb [09:29] monstro (n=monstro@201-43-250-105.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [09:30] om nom nom [09:30] i has crackers! [09:30] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1624 :D [09:31] 8-P [09:31] ah, got it [09:32] is there a how-to for scim in slackware? i never can find one/remember how i set it up last time [09:32] dude.. i bugfix 5 year old PHP4 code, that's helluva more challenging than fixing a fighter jet! [09:32] :P [09:32] and now, back to reading xkcd [09:33] tewmten: still, less challenging than a 7yo [09:33] mintee (i=1000@72-165-177-67.dia.static.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [09:33] omg! now i play MY one-up card! [09:33] alisonken1noc: you'd have to ask a chatolic priest about that! [09:33] Action: TwinReverb beat everyone at texas hold 'em tonight [09:33] spook: CAHNGES_AND_HINTS [09:34] tewmten: I'll leave that one alone (and no, I'm not catholic) [09:34] alienBOB: aha. thanks [09:34] :D [09:35] cabrilo (n=cabrilo@unaffiliated/pechorin) joined ##slackware. [09:35] well time to start the countdown. :) hey slackytude you're almost there as well. [09:35] Action: TwinReverb is a chatolic priest 8-P [09:35] eeeeeew [09:35] i chat on irc all the time [09:35] hello all... I have a general linux question, I hope nobody minds: can huge log files for e.g. apache cause it to underperform? [09:36] hehe lol, now the XS4ALL people are standing outside their office smoking joints and running around like kindergarden kids [09:36] not really huge, but a couple of gigabytes [09:36] moar like POT4ALL, amirite? [09:36] anyone know which deps need bumping in kde 4.3? [09:36] er, s/in/for [09:38] "You can do your part to reduce climate change by reducing your carbon footprint." [09:38] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] I got problems with my touchpad, i want to make it tap click ?! [09:38] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [09:39] i want mine to tap dance :( [09:39] cabrilo: you have GB log files for apache? [09:39] mine would tap that [09:39] :P [09:40] LF4: yes :( our "administrator" never rotated them [09:40] i mean when i "clicl" on the touchpad to act as if i clicked the mouse button [09:40] LF4: (it's a non-critical server we use for development) [09:41] cabrilo : huge log file will not cause problems for apache. however, if you use apache 1.3, then your apache will die once any log file will reach 2GB in size [09:41] cabrilo : log rotating is good for you [tm] [09:43] not that kind of log ananke [09:44] ananke: we use 2.x, but I'm curious as to why would 1.3. die? [09:44] cabrilo : it doesn't handle large files. it can't even serve them [09:44] aha [09:44] i'm sure #apache folks could give you the exact details [09:44] oooh. that's right! [09:45] thanks [09:45] cabrilo (n=cabrilo@unaffiliated/pechorin) left ##slackware. [09:47] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:47] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:52] i don't know of anything that doesn't pause for a second reading a directory with a lot of entries [09:52] there's like 3335 files in there on mine [09:52] evo- (n=evo@wrzb-5f75a31a.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Success [09:53] Billtoo_ (n=Billtoo_@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:53] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [09:54] oh, i'm sorry, was i supposed to join you on your torch and pitchfork quest to trash firefox? 8-) [09:54] Action: ananke casts another 'vote stasipro off the island' [09:54] its more like the GTK file dialog genious [09:55] ananke, pssh what about my 299999993 aliases [09:56] Action: TwinReverb could care less [09:56] couldn't care less * [09:56] unless you really could? [09:56] i dunno, i guess [09:57] its annoyed me for a long time [09:57] SarcasticIrony: i'm sure they'd love for you to fix it [09:57] gotta wait an extra minute to type in /usr/bin/mplayer to watch a porno [09:57] by that time the lube is drying and my mouse is all sticky [09:58] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [09:58] thrice`, can't be that difficult to fix [09:58] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:58] then you totally should do it [09:58] maybe i will tonight [10:00] guess i can do it now [10:02] grah why is sourceforge being gayer than usual? [10:02] yesterday, we briefly discussed here what happens when one types in an incorrect domain name address and what is returned. well, Comcast just sent out a notice of "help" to their customers: [10:02] it was listening to backstreet boys [10:02] "a new feature called 'Domain Helper' to help you find the sites you want when you mistype a Web site address in your Web browser" [10:02] so, the evil is back with a new name. [10:03] beware the evil that stalks you on the intarweb [10:03] so use opennic and/or opendns [10:03] basically it breaks the specification. [10:03] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [10:03] or run your own dns service. [10:03] i'm hoping comcast provides an opt-out button [10:03] (i already do, SarcasticIrony) [10:03] they have opt out of non-arbitration agreement [10:03] so you can sue them for spying on you [10:03] PurpleSmurf: they have opt-out. [10:04] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:04] out-opt: [10:04] [10:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:04] Channel flood from PurpleSmurf -- kicking [10:04] [10:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:04] PurpleSmurf kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:04] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-26-82-254-86-110.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] good riddance [10:04] Polarbrod (n=p0lak@lgh7.fornfyndet.se) joined ##slackware. [10:05] hey was wondering if someone could answer a q for me? [10:06] Polarbrod: yes. thats your question answered, now get out. [10:06] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:06] dd if=usbboot.img of=/dev/sda bs=512 [10:06] wha does dbus stand for [10:06] i have a 4 gb usb [10:06] bs [10:07] block size [10:07] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [10:07] makes it copy more than one byte at a time. [10:07] So should i change it considering my usb i larger? [10:08] no [10:08] aha [10:08] marchhare (n=marchhar@65.30.221.199) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:08] thanks, does anyone know if it slack works ootb for eee 900? [10:08] running that command turns your 4gb usb into a ~32mb usb drive. [10:08] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host224-64-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:09] Polarbrod: works well on the 701sd and 901, i dont see why not [10:09] that is true [10:09] okey, so i should not run it? [10:09] also, you should try pxe boots and network installs. [10:09] Polarbrod: at least until you reformat it [10:10] so sorry folks, for the flood but glad it was only a few lines. it looked much worse to me in the chat window. [10:10] Quiznos, no one cares [10:10] ok, so what is suggestion for me to do? Spook [10:10] SarcasticIrony proper decorum. [10:10] spook BE NICE! [10:11] Quiznos: what? [10:11] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host224-64-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:11] Polarbrod: usb boots will do you fine. [10:11] why does running the slackbuild for gtk+2 try to remove files in /usr/lib/ [10:11] dont be a curmudgeon [10:11] ananke: what you said is partially correct [10:11] ananke: the LFS issue is with serving large files, not handling large log files. [10:11] Polarbrod: just dont forget to reformat it when you're done. [10:11] ananke: starting with 2.0.1x, there was a patch to handle them. [10:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [10:12] /usr/bin/ginstall: cannot remove `/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1200.12': Permission denied [10:12] heh, opengl bindings for opengl [10:12] i didnt say install crap i said build! [10:12] SarcasticIrony lsattr? [10:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:12] SarcasticIrony own prob? [10:12] that would be kinda cool [10:12] I neeed some help >< dropline broke my xwin [10:12] marchhare: we don't support dropline. [10:13] thumbs: I know [10:13] Quiznos: i am being nice. i can show you me not being nice if you want? [10:13] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/08/webgl-standard-to-bring-3d-web-without-browser-plugins.ars [10:13] marchhare: remove dropline, and reinstall the stock slackware packages. [10:13] thumbs: i want to get rid of it! [10:13] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:13] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:13] Quiznos, im not root [10:13] marchhare: ask #dropline then [10:13] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:13] thumbs: ok thanks [10:13] just wondering why the slackbuild is trying to overwrite files while building a package [10:13] anyone have xscreensaver crashing X server ? [10:14] spook after PurpleSmurf was kicked, you wrote "good riddance" [10:15] to someone who began to flood the channel [10:17] HES RIGHT, he did try to flood the channel [10:17] http://www.explosm.net/comics/1632/ [10:17] he didnt try. he made a mistake. [10:19] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [10:19] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:22] tooly (n=tooly@e178151254.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:23] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:27] thumbs : so what's causing problems when handling large log files? [10:27] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Polarbrod (n=p0lak@lgh7.fornfyndet.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] ananke: those a purely file system limitations [10:28] s/a /are / [10:28] merovingio (n=meroving@200.44.51.26) joined ##slackware. [10:29] thumbs : nope, they're not [10:29] 2GB is not a filesystem limitation. apache 1.3 just dies when any of its log files reach that size [10:29] memory limitation. [10:30] x86 system? [10:30] spook : not a memory limitation either [10:30] spook : yes [10:30] ananke: I had an old 1.3 box with a larger log file, as a matter of fact. [10:30] maximum memory for a single process is 2gb. [10:30] spook : it's a log file. [10:30] thumbs : i can repeat it on multiple 1.3 instances [10:30] ananke: interesting. [10:31] does it happen with apache 2? [10:31] http://blog.techstacks.com/2009/01/apache-error-writing-to-log-file.html [10:31] spook : no [10:31] SarcasticIrony: you could have read the gtk+2.SlackBuild and would have noticed the line "# I'm spamming your root partition" [10:32] http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=apache+1.3+2GB+log&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 <- plenty of hits on the same issue [10:32] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [10:32] meh [10:32] i thought there would be some kind of standard [10:32] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:33] hackbuild more than slackbuild EH EH EH?! M I RITE [10:33] standard for what? [10:33] sigh [10:33] Call it hackbuild if you like. I don't care [10:33] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:34] merovingio (n=meroving@200.44.51.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:36] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:36] ananke: umm, in any case, 1.3 is ancient [10:37] especially since slackware has upgraded to the 2.x series as well [10:37] thumbs : i'm not arguing that point :) [10:42] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [10:42] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:43] lvillani (n=lvillani@adsl-ull-214-40.49-151.net24.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:43] merovingio (n=meroving@200.44.51.26) joined ##slackware. [10:46] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [10:47] noisesinmyhead (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:47] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [10:48] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [10:48] noisesinmyhead (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:49] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-26-82-254-86-110.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:50] gotta say, the up front costs of xz are big. [10:51] should have used rzip [10:51] mancha: hmmm? [10:51] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:52] i am just thiking about how long makepkg is going to take.... [10:53] mancha: smaller packages... [10:53] that's what makes it good for Pat to use, but maybe not yourself making custom packages [10:54] thrice, yes, but will makepkgallow tgz? [10:54] of course [10:54] "of course" is not a good answer - but if the answer is yes then thats good [10:55] it was short for "of course you can, RTFchangelog" [10:55] oh, i guess i just expected an asshole-free "yes" or "no" [10:55] my bad [10:56] np [10:56] mancha: whos the asshole now? [10:56] I guess I just expected you might research, or even...try it [10:56] ye gods! [10:56] Action: slackytude slaps thrice` for being sensible [10:57] lol [10:57] i'm not trying anything, just making some small talk on xz's compression costs...no need to get your panties in a bunch [10:58] if I wore panties, my wife would have questions :) [10:58] almost time to go home [10:59] yeah,yeah, weekend here I come [10:59] ready or not [10:59] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:00] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.28) joined ##slackware. [11:02] I bought a new mp3 player and it sez supported OS are linux 2.4 or higher [11:02] can I use that? O_o [11:02] heh [11:05] first time I saw linux as a supported OS on a consumer device [11:06] yeah i'd say it'd work. [11:06] 2.4, support is almost certainly in-kernel [11:07] although it probally works just like a usb drive. [11:07] no mess, no fuss. unlike apple products [11:07] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:08] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:08] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [11:09] slackytude, that is near enough standard now [11:09] anything that uses USB Mass Storage will work in Linux [11:10] and I have a 32MB USB Memory Stick that runs on Linux 2.2 or higher apparently XD [11:10] 32MB? [11:11] (Although I don't get how that works given support wasn't there right from 2.2.0) [11:11] straterra, yeah 32MB xD [11:11] NthDegree: I know [11:11] but it was under supported OS right on the package [11:12] I used it as a chew toy XD [11:12] I know that it works [11:12] but that someone advertieses it [11:12] anyway, gotta go [11:12] hmmm, it's advertised everywhere here [11:12] O_o [11:12] where does that mp3 player say its "made in" ? [11:12] just curious [11:13] Every device based around USB Mass Storage advertises Linux 2.4 support in the Argos catalogue :p [11:13] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [11:14] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:15] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:15] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:16] I have this strange problem with my torrent. it's just this one torrent. I'm only getting one seed. i keep it for a while, then when i look at it later, it's paused and a few mb have been DL i tell it to start again and it does, then it has 'invalid or wide multibyte charecter' error. I tell it to start again and it does....and it repeats [11:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:16] Chakravanti: This is Slackware related...how? [11:16] ntp servers from net are missing; dns prob? [11:16] i dont have this problem in ubuntu [11:17] lol [11:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424180.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:17] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:17] yea cause we all know there is only one torrent program [11:18] Chakravanti: what application are you using, exactly? [11:18] Chakravanti, you downloading it to ntfs-3g partition? [11:18] transmission [11:18] yes [11:18] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:18] stop it [11:18] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:18] Chakravanti: try a different client [11:18] try a different filesystem [11:19] ntfs doesn't like korean symbols, stop dl'iong korean porn [11:19] yes [11:19] its music [11:19] Chakravanti: try a different client [11:19] with some funky characters in the name surely [11:19] dont try a different client [11:19] save the file with a different name or to a real filesystem [11:19] SarcasticIrony: and why, may I ask? [11:20] because i read the error message [11:20] disabling utf8 is also an option [11:20] 'invalid or wide multibyte charecter' [11:20] which could be a bug with this particular client. [11:20] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) joined ##slackware. [11:21] why is the file system the first thing you blamed? [11:21] which could be a guess based on nothing [11:21] because im smart [11:21] if you say so. [11:21] why is the client the first thing you blamed [11:21] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [11:21] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:22] it's not the fs, per se, its the locale. [11:22] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:22] im DL the file to ext3 now [11:22] because not all applications can handle utf-8 characters properly. [11:22] so he should try some random other client [11:22] instead of transmission which is the best [11:23] transmission is GTK only isn't it? [11:23] should be [11:24] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:24] Chakravanti, it has a console client and daemon [11:24] Action: Chakravanti <3's GTK only! [11:24] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Chav, you can remount your ntfs volume with a non utf8 locale option too [11:24] gtk and gnome need to die already [11:24] Hi all [11:24] yay fixed the gtk file dialog lag [11:24] I just updated to 12.2 [11:24] xfce not gnome [11:25] My CD's are not mounted automatically. The system does not even see them. [11:25] Action: Chakravanti cant stand KDE [11:25] oh, I know how SarcasticIrony is now. [11:25] s/how/who/ [11:25] just comment this line in gtkfilechooserentry.c if you dont care about completion [11:25] /HACK2 update_current_folder_files (chooser_entry, added_uris); [11:25] well, i can move the files after they're downloaded [11:25] Chakravanti: kde is better than gnome, but theres is a lot each can learn about the other [11:26] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [11:26] dbus and hal present [11:26] Chak, just letting you know in case you wanna do direct dl's later [11:26] think of how much better either could be, if all the effort was concentrated on just one [11:26] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:26] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.51) joined ##slackware. [11:26] you want to mainline linux? LMAO [11:27] usually quality suffers when you remove competition, not the other way around [11:27] exactly [11:28] good point. [11:28] i just liek the way gtk & xfce feel [11:29] i dont like the way gtk works behind the scenes. very ugly. [11:29] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD89A73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:30] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@66.33.206.8) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:30] s/ugly/c-ish?/ [11:30] very ugly c [11:30] Billtoo_ (n=Billtoo_@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [11:31] well when Slackware 13 becomes -stable i'll try KDE 4.3 [11:31] 13 wont have 4.3 [11:32] 13 will have 4.2.4=< [11:32] why? [11:32] because 4.3 only just got released, we're at rc2, and 4.2 has been tested quite a lot [11:33] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [11:33] because we're not ubuntu users [11:33] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [11:33] is it a significant difference? [11:33] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left ##slackware. [11:33] maybe, i dont know, read the changelog [11:34] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.91.143) joined ##slackware. [11:36] phzinn (n=s2@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [11:36] ktos (n=ktos@adfm75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:37] Hi [11:37] thrice`, want the gtk2 file dialog lag fix [11:37] kb3rmq (n=casey@pool-151-201-224-130.pitt.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:37] Tell me please, is it possible to extract dvd image of slack to pendrive and boot instalation from it? [11:38] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] some flash drives can be virtual cd rom drives if the bios and flashdrive are partitioned/setup for it [11:38] ktos: usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [11:39] best to use the mini image of course [11:40] Hi all: I'm having no automount after upgrading to 12.2 [11:40] thank you guys :) [11:40] ganeshix: explain more. [11:40] ganeshix, what groups are you in [11:40] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) joined ##slackware. [11:40] did you move the .new files to the right places? [11:40] did you read upgrade.txt [11:42] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:43] hi all [11:44] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [11:44] greetings all [11:45] sid77 (n=sid77@slackware.it) left irc: Client Quit [11:46] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-147-63.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:47] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:48] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.20.104) joined ##slackware. [11:48] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [11:48] happyslacker (n=happysla@71.20.52.214) joined ##slackware. [11:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-176-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-176-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [11:52] happyslacker (n=happysla@71.20.52.214) left irc: Client Quit [11:52] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:52] shhh [11:52] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [11:54] be vewy vewy quiet. i hunting wabbit [11:54] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:55] no topic is offtopic! [11:55] this is SLACKWARE!111 [11:55] phzin (n=s2@189.57.19.89) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:56] are you being saracastic [11:56] Ok. I have a number of nice slamd64 setups here, but I want to run git-svn, and need a distro recommended I can run in a VM to pull an SNV into GIT with a minimum number of push-ups so to speak. I really don't like SVN, and don't want it installed on my hosts. [11:57] Does anything out there get git-svn right out-of-the-box? [11:57] i'll laugh at you if you keep going [11:58] Unfortunately Clozure common lisp and ypsilon scheme use SVN as there version control. :-( [11:58] caoliver, gentoo [11:58] s/there/thier/ [11:58] Tnx! [11:58] I just want to set it up, pull, and tear it down. [11:58] SarcasticIrony: oh thats evil. [11:58] How so? [11:58] or is it [11:59] s/thier/their/ Gawd! but my spelling reeks today. Or is it my typing? [11:59] your smelling does reek today [12:00] My dog has no nose. How does it smell? Awful! [12:01] caoliver: even if it does work in gentoo, you'll have to do at least a stage 2 install [12:01] I figure no one has it by default. [12:01] nah, compile from bootstrap on a vm [12:01] Pain... misery... why can't people just use git? [12:01] so you feel like you accomplished something after 4 days [12:02] caoliver: i agree, but you cant just jump ship to the latest and greatest cvs [12:02] i dont see why you can just use svn to sync the source files, delete the svn extra crap, then upload to a git [12:02] oh gotta keep the old tags and crap and version info / patches [12:02] lol [12:02] logs, revisions [12:03] nasty [12:03] man svn2git [12:03] Is that easier that git-svn? I just want to import. [12:04] i dont know anything about it [12:04] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:05] From README: It uses git-svn to clone an svn... (lose lose lose) [12:05] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [12:05] just check out each svn revision and add them all to a git [12:05] in order [12:06] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [12:06] Getting all the logs right is the key here, so I can use tools such as gitk and git gui blame to get an overview of the changes. [12:07] For something that was to be a quick and dirty fix, this is threatening to eat mucho time. [12:08] i'd just purge and move the latest stable code to the git :p [12:08] CCL and ypsilon aren't my projects. I just track them. [12:08] oh [12:09] Hence my wanting a cheap and cheerful tool to put them in a useful form. [12:09] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:09] dd! [12:09] CCL := the other significant open source common lisp. [12:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [12:11] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [12:11] anyone put slack on a ps3? [12:11] slack doesnt have a ppc64 port [12:12] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-13.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] ppc64? [12:12] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [12:12] 64bit ppc, the arch of the ps3 [12:12] ps3 is for fighting giant enemy crabs [12:12] lol [12:13] attack its hypervisor weakspot for MASSIVE DAMAGE [12:14] or something ubernerdy [12:17] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:17] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [12:18] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:20] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:23] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-13.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:25] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:27] alienBlurb (i=3351@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [12:31] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [12:31] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [12:32] webbi (n=webi@190.247.201.22) joined ##slackware. [12:32] hello [12:32] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:32] webbi: Yo! [12:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:33] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-232-133.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:34] Anyone else installed MAilman from SBo? [12:34] uva (i=bno@118-160-161-205.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:34] Action: Zordrak has a serious concern about it [12:35] mailman is so ugly to setup [12:35] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:35] easy to use, but a bitch to setup [12:35] my freeswitch crashed overnight and i thought i left an office dead but i forgot i had redundancy and found the calls going out another server ;) [12:35] im too good, top that thrice`. [12:35] yeah.. especially when its pulling libn.... from the SBo temp build dir!! [12:36] i just heard startling news [12:36] attempted terrorist attack in australia? [12:37] spook, my bad, its just a big misunderstanding [12:37] SarcasticIrony: what? [12:37] the terrorist attack [12:38] i have something weird, rare and new (almost for me)... when i send something to print, the printer accept the job, start printing, it moves like printing and........ the page is blank!! :S [12:38] nah, they failed, cops had been tracking them for 18 months [12:38] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:38] webbi: out of ink/toner? [12:38] spook: haha no, i though that but then make a copy (it's a hp psc 1410) and it have ink [12:39] spook: lada gaga is a hermaphrodite [12:39] connection is: printer -> server (cups) -> lan [12:40] spook, they failed because the government won [12:40] dakarn: lol [12:41] SarcasticIrony: they werent that bright to begin with, their plan was to for the 5 of them with assault rifles to attack a military base that has primarily special forces, most of which are iraq veterans. [12:41] while our military bases are not as secure as say, the US, its still wouldnt end well for them. [12:42] well 60% of suicide bombers are mentally retarded...terrorists / intelligence agencies always pick dumb patsies [12:42] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:42] first wtc bombing, the cia actually gave the idiots real bombs instead of fake ones [12:42] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:43] they do it all the time [12:43] hello multi|nick! [12:43] uhhh [12:43] Greetings everyone. :) [12:43] you're damn right SarcasticIrony [12:43] haha, hey eviljames, how goes? [12:43] it's sad to see those nationals do that kind of stuff for the CIA for money [12:43] can we please keep the crazy to ##slackofftopic? thx. :P [12:43] they think it's a good thing [12:43] listen to emad salem's testimony about the case [12:43] eviljames, go back to your boyfriend Steven-Bart Garfunkle. [12:43] eviljames, say crazy just because you are ignorant [12:43] jeev: I prefer when he comes to me. [12:44] eeeeeeeeeeeWEEWeWeWeWeWWw [12:44] eviljames: it was sensible until he started talking [12:44] fire|bird: hello!, going to try your project? [12:45] webbi: yup, sure am. :) [12:45] fire|bird: good luck then! :) [12:45] thanks [12:45] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] Action: webbi cross fingers [12:45] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.20.104) left irc: "shutdown -h" [12:45] spook: pretty sure SarcasticIrony = sirbobdobbs = a little on the bonkers side. [12:45] spook: So, par for the course :P [12:45] webbi: If you do that, how will you type? :P [12:45] fire|bird: haha you right [12:45] fire|bird: poorly [12:45] eviljames: yeah i know. [12:46] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [12:46] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.172.68) joined ##slackware. [12:46] fire|bird: to the typing question, not how it's going .. but I guess it applies to both. [12:46] haha [12:47] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. 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[13:02] nix_chix0r: missyjane sais you're full of shit [13:02] its true [13:02] lol [13:02] only thing shes correct on [13:02] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-168-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:02] fire|bird: grrr [13:02] I'd have to agree with that one [13:02] hey,i have a local mirror of current, to upgrade new packges after new update, i use this "find ./ -mtime 0 -name *txz -exec upgradepkg {} \; " are there any better ways upgrade ? [13:03] speaking of missyjane... [13:03] y0 chopp [13:03] init[1]: I use: # upgradepkg --install-new **/*t?z [13:03] sup fire|bird :) [13:03] init[1]: cd slackware64-current/slackware64 && upgrade... [13:03] eviljames: i mean only new packges [13:03] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [13:03] not the entire jumbo [13:03] hi [13:04] Action: chopp wanders off [13:04] init[1]: With these switches, upgradepkg ignores packages already installed, upgrades ones that newer versions are available for, and installs any new packages. [13:04] Action: nix_chix0r poops on missyjane [13:04] that's hot [13:04] lol [13:04] baahaa [13:04] possibly even literally. :D [13:04] did you all see my premonition in action there? [13:04] Ahh, the ol' cleveland steamer. [13:04] eviljames: aa.., yea get ya now [13:04] hey corn bits nicee [13:05] spook: simply amazing that was [13:06] chopp: i know, right? [13:07] go away nix_chix0r [13:07] Action: init[1] helps missyjane to clean herself from nix_chix0r poop :P [13:07] Man, some days this channel is a total lolocaust. [13:07] nobody needs to go away, lets all just get along and be civil for crying out loud. [13:07] CAT FIGHT [13:07] meow [13:07] Action: spook preps the jello ring [13:08] Ticket! Gitcher tickets ... [13:08] stop shitting on eachother [13:08] gtludwig (n=Nelson@189.114.201.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [13:08] I'd say the fights over before it started [13:09] i got 4:1 odds on missyjane [13:09] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [13:09] y0 agentc0re|work [13:09] yo. [13:10] agentc0re|work: you joined just in time, nix_chix0r and missyjane are both here. We're waiting for that situation to explode. spook has 4:1 missyjane, how about you? :P [13:10] fire|bird: agreed on civility. Take the fights to somewhere offtopic.. [13:10] eviljames: indeed [13:11] like ##slackofftopic [13:11] which has no activity atm. :) [13:11] or ebtter yet: do a vlog about it [13:11] marchhare (n=marchhar@65.30.221.199) left irc: "leaving" [13:11] bbiab [13:11] A jello vlog [13:12] alienBlurb (i=3351@connie.slackware.com) got netsplit. [13:12] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.51) got netsplit. [13:12] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) got netsplit. 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[13:12] yes [13:13] so im inventing plog. picture log [13:13] I get mad EVERY TIME I see the commercial for the movie about that fatass cook lady [13:13] wtf is her name julie childs? [13:13] it's gonna be the new puppycam web 5.0 [13:13] WTF are we doing making MOVIES ABOUT BLOGS [13:13] idiocracy incarnate [13:13] We know that the review of the movie about a blog is going to end up on a fscking blog, then what? HUH? [13:13] it's happening [13:13] THEN WHAT? [13:13] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Then the universe implodes on circular logic THATS WHAT! [13:14] Maybe we can make a movie about blogging about movies next [13:14] Polarbrod (i=Polarbro@lgh7.fornfyndet.se) joined ##slackware. [13:15] Actually Childs was quite amusing. I have a number of her books. I have no interest whatsoever in seeing a portrayal by J. Roberts. [13:16] hey, im trying to install sw on a asus eee 900, using a usbimg some guy posted here earlier..I cant figure out what http im suppose to use to install sw [13:16] any help? [13:17] Polarbrod: any mirror [13:17] Polarbrod: a machine on your local network that has the packages [13:17] Polarbrod: mirrors listed on slackware.com [13:17] will the .tar.gz work for instillation of flash 10? [13:17] Nexxus: yes. [13:17] Nexxus: yes [13:17] i STRONGLY STRONGLY suggest in not using a mirror on the internet to install directly from. [13:18] yeah there you are spook :D [13:18] when i tar zxvf it i only get libflashplayer.so [13:18] Nexxus: theres an install script too [13:18] Polarbrod: if you have the dvd, mount it and share it. [13:18] Zorfrak: gm i did not see that [13:18] >.< [13:18] Nexxus: cp that to /usr/lib{64}/mozilla/plugins [13:18] dont have it [13:18] iirc [13:19] eviljames: the libplayer.so? [13:19] Nexxus: yes [13:19] ok 1 sec [13:20] oh squiggly line who in my eye squander [13:20] eviljames, im pretty sure you are a little on the bonkers side [13:20] SarcasticIrony: You're absolutely right. [13:20] Oh freddled gruntbuggly... [13:20] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.91.143) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:20] Normal people are boring [13:20] Polarbrod: you need the packages locally. irs really not a great idea to do it any other way [13:20] What is normal? [13:20] Dull people are dull, is what I mean [13:20] eviljames, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_Salem [13:21] Polarbrod: please follow channel rules. do not pm without permission. [13:21] oh sorry [13:21] eviljames: i dont have a lib{64} but i do have a i486-slackware-linux [13:21] Nexxus: the {64} was in case you were in slackware64. probably /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [13:21] well, i guess there no idea if i havent got the dvd, any slackware like distro you guys like to tip me about? [13:21] eviljames: oops thanks [13:21] put it in/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [13:22] spook: not to be a nit, but doesn't requiring perm for PM defeat the purpose of a PM. [13:22] ? [13:22] eviljames, now mix that in your brain with what you know about the "anthrax" attack and how they tried to setup hatfield and then pinned it on an easier patsy that they could kill, and then compare it to the fact that the fbi gave weapons to the little florida terrorists they setup a while back [13:22] but firefox works fine without flash in current, may be due to html5 thingie [13:23] thanks eviljames [13:23] SarcasticIrony: inside job, wake up sheeple, inforwars.com etc. etc. yeah yeah.. take it to o/t while there's questions that are on topic :D [13:23] if you are dumb and angry, the government will give you weapons so they can make an example of you and bring in more "security" [13:23] SarcasticIrony: listen to what eviljames tells you there [13:23] SarcasticIrony: I will check out the link tho :D and engage the discussion more fully in ##slackofftopic [13:23] its just how the bait and switch shell game hegelian dialectic works [13:23] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [13:24] caoliver: no, its the rules. [13:24] spook: I have trouble where there are rules without good justification. [13:25] caoliver: imo, the pm'ing rule is justified. I think it's a good rule instead of people just pm'ing you out of the blue whenever they want. It's polite to ask first. :) [13:25] Does someone got any other distro tips for me? slackware like [13:25] caoliver: no annoying pms from people with questions [13:26] But it advertises the PM to everyone else, hence it's not strictly private. [13:26] caoliver: when are on road you follow traffic rules,when you are in #slackware you follow slackware guidelines [13:26] even if you like it or not,:) [13:27] caoliver: Yes it is, you're not revealing the contents of the pm here, you're just asking someone if you can pm them here. [13:27] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [13:27] The purpose of a PM is to share info confidentially. Advertising the existence of the information violates that. [13:28] heh, sometimes the purpose of a PM is to irritate the recipient. That's probably what caused that rule to be made [13:28] (morning, folks) [13:28] lol [13:28] morning Urchlay [13:28] caoliver: alright, go ahead and pm people when you like, but if (no when) you get kicked for it, don't complain. :) [13:28] Urchlay: yo, still listened to it ? [13:28] y0 Urchlay, how goes? [13:29] Nick change: init[1] -> fire|dirb [13:29] OHGODWHY [13:30] still on my 2nd cup of coffee, the world is a confused jumble of sight and sound that changes faster than I can listen to/look at it [13:30] wow, sounds like fun. [13:30] nah, it's the usual morning crap [13:30] haha [13:31] Every morning when I wake up, I'm wide awake. I don't drink coffee at all or need anything to wake me up. [13:31] fire|bird: don't you brush your teeth before a coffie ? [13:31] bastard [13:31] Polarbrod (i=Polarbro@lgh7.fornfyndet.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:31] I mean, uh, good for you [13:31] o_O, we usually do that [13:31] I'm not PM'ing, I'm just pointing out that such requireing people to advertise that they want privacy seem against the notion of privacy. [13:31] fire|bird: Thats becasue you inject it directly in the blood :P [13:32] LF4: haha [13:32] caoliver: you ask to PM out of respect for the person you are going to PM. Thats all. [13:32] caoliver: It's the rules, they are there for a reason, follow them. It's a good rule and it doesn't take away privacy. [13:32] without coffee, I'll never fully wake up. I'll just sit around in a stupor, accomplishing nothing all day [13:33] Urchlay: tell me about it. [13:34] Heh, that doesn't happen to me at all. young and energetic for the win!. :P [13:34] thats what he said [13:34] I'm young and tired, that's not win :( [13:34] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-176-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:34] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-176-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [13:35] fire|dirb (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [13:35] lol [13:35] I just took a quiz and it said I was 43 based on my lifestyle. lol [13:35] haha [13:36] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [13:36] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:36] wb init[1] :) [13:36] fire|bird: :) [13:36] init[1]: are you testing your bot again? [13:36] i found a new name [13:36] for you [13:36] alienBOB: no, [13:36] omg! [13:36] that is my cloak [13:37] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:37] init[1]: you never knew what your cloak was? :P [13:37] its been with me for past 1 month [13:37] shellium/member/buffer [13:37] that is my cloak, [13:38] alienBOB: i swear, other than my bouncer from shellium i don't run anything here [13:38] that too is down today, [13:38] phzinn (n=s2@189.57.19.89) left irc: Client Quit [13:38] lol init[1] how did you not know what your cloak was? It's based on the amount of donation. :) [13:38] phzin (n=s2@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [13:39] _ohm (n=research@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [13:39] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [13:39] LF4: see , long back, i pulled in a bot with a host name shellium.dancingbot.com smthing [13:39] lol [13:39] i guess alienBOB might have miss understood my cloak for that , [13:40] makes sense [13:40] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Connection timed out [13:40] No, the cloak is OK. The joining/parting behaviour is whhat triggers me [13:41] alienBOB: Do you have scripts that alert you for that type of thing? [13:41] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [13:41] alienBOB: i come and go at certian periods and i do talk like human beings when in here :) [13:41] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:42] soo , i can't be bot ,:) [13:42] lol init[1] human beings? Plural? [13:42] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] LF4: typo [13:42] lol bipolar is more like it ;) [13:42] Nexxus (n=vex@208.69.211.196) left irc: "Leaving" [13:42] Action: eviljames ventures a guess, init[1] might be from India.. [13:43] init[1]: Am I close? [13:43] eviljames: o_I [13:43] ... i don't have any idea what that means. feel free to confirm/deny via pm if you don't want the info out in public. [13:44] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] eviljames im getting flash backs of that bot day in this channel, and the fireing from people .. :( [13:45] init[1]: I guess this way because the english is pretty good, and I used to work closely with a lot of people from India - something about the way you form sentences reminds me of them. [13:47] well I guess I should get some sleep lol, good day everyone. [13:47] bye LF4 [13:47] later missyjane [13:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-176-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[14:30] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:30] 46 seconds to shutdown, 1:32 to boot. [14:30] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [14:30] my truck takes 3 seconds to startup and 1 second to piss me off. does that count? [14:31] spook: that sounds more like an old vacuum tube radio than a piece of solid-state equipment :) [14:32] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] Urchlay: it means i need to turn some junk off [14:34] chmod -x /etc/rc.d/* [14:34] that should help. [14:34] lol [14:35] add 'append="init=/bin/sh"' to /etc/lilo.conf :) [14:35] (note: no, not really!) [14:36] chatran (n=chatran@200.146.119.6) joined ##slackware. [14:37] hey guys [14:37] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [14:37] how i find all files and dirs of and directory from determinated month ? [14:37] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:38] like: find . -month 3 [14:38] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [14:39] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:39] chatran: man find [14:39] eviljames, :) dont exist this [14:39] cant find files of month 3 [14:40] -cmin -amin etc.. [14:40] just starting and ending day of month [14:40] :| for this i can use ls | grep jun [14:40] more easy [14:40] lol [14:41] o/ [14:41] chatran: or something like ls -lah | grep "2009-04" or such... [14:42] chatran: here's my approach: use "touch" to create two files, with timestamps that you set on the command line [14:42] yes i will do this way ls -lah [14:42] one file, give it a timestamp of 12:00AM, the first day of the month. The other, give it a timestamp of 12:00AM, the first day of the *next* month [14:42] use touch * and say screw it! [14:43] hueauheuhea [14:43] then something like: find . -newer firstfile -a \! -newer secondfile [14:43] epic laff bro [14:43] SarcasticIrony: pleae refrain from that kind of stupid comments [14:43] chatran: I may have the syntax wrong (it might need parenthesis or something), but the idea should be workable [14:44] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] i will try this: ls -lah | grep 2008-08 | xargs mv $? /test [14:45] im bad on xargs [14:45] not $? [14:45] chatran, good luck [14:45] tks [14:47] try 'xargs -I X mv X /test' [14:47] but if you have a file with 2008-08 in the name, grep will match it too [14:48] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:48] grep " 2008-08-" [14:49] >:| [14:49] little more predictable [14:49] ls -lah | grep 2009-05-05 | xargs -i mv {} test [14:49] mv: invalid option -- r [14:49] Try `mv --help' for more information. [14:49] hard xargs [14:49] i have him [14:49] how do you store a newline in a mysql string? "\n"? [14:49] hate [14:49] is xargs like '{}' ? [14:50] no [14:50] chatran: you have to quote the {} to protect it from the cshell [14:50] i tryed too [14:50] er, the shell [14:50] also, leave off the xargs part entirely, look at the output grep is producing [14:50] chatran, use find [14:51] $ ls -lah | grep 2009-07-30 [14:51] -r--r--r-- 1 root users 11 2009-07-30 04:27 .X0-lock [14:51] ALVAN, pls tell me how i find all files and dirs of an month .. like: find . -month 3 | xargs mv {} test [14:51] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:51] the entire string (starting with -r--r--r--) is being passed to xargs, which isn't what you wanted (you want filenames only). [14:52] $ mv -r--r--r-- 1 root users 11 2009-07-30 04:27 .X0-lock /test [14:52] mv: invalid option -- 'r' [14:52] yes [14:52] dam hard [14:52] huehueahuea [14:52] that's what's going on. "find" is better, you just have to do some extra work to make the -newer option do what you want [14:53] chatran, find -mtime -31 [14:53] ALVAN, i need all files of month 3 [14:53] re [14:53] only this month [14:53] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:54] does that include directories? [14:54] yes [14:54] right. "man touch" will tell you how to create a file with any timestamp you want [14:54] i need move all to other dir to backup [14:54] archive [14:54] and -newer will finds files with newer timestamps than some file [14:54] Urchlay, cant modify the timestamp... is for backup [14:54] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-106-191.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:54] and "! -newer" will find files older than some other file [14:55] chatran: no, I meant, create a couple of new, empty files in /tmp, just for the purpose of using -newer [14:55] k [14:56] google are not helping me on this case [14:56] Well, this dd image (after a sysprep) fails too. :P [14:58] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:58] hello everyone [14:58] hi [14:58] greetings Lord_Khelben, how goes? [14:58] chatran: OK, because I am *that* bored, I solved your problem for you [14:58] Urchlay: you get bored? [14:58] touch -t 200808010000 oldfile [14:58] fire|bird: nice. i just came home and i am testing kde 4.3.0 :) how about you [14:59] touch -t 200809010000 newfile [14:59] Lord_Khelben: great, I'm on 4.3 right now. My latest dd image failed in qemu though. :P [14:59] find /dir -newer oldfile -a \! -newer newfile [14:59] that'll find all the files from the 8th month of 2008 [14:59] i didn't think of qemu. i am testing it on my system. [14:59] the "| xargs mv" part is left as an exercise for the reader [15:00] hi guys any one is using nagios [15:00] Lord_Khelben: whoops, my bad. qemu and kde 4.3 are separate there. I built kde 4.3 myself and am using it on my system. The qemu is wrt the dd image I made of my laptop's hdd. :P sorry. [15:01] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] they finally put system-settings in the settings menu instead of system menu, and khotkeys works better. window shading is weird though. i don't know if it is a bug or is supposed to work like that [15:01] Action: webbi brain game: 1, 2, 6, 42, 1806, _________ which is the 6th number? [15:02] not many "visible to end user" changes but overall great work [15:02] Lord_Khelben: yeah, very subtle ui changes, but very nice. [15:02] The plasma air theme is very nice. [15:03] webbi: 3263442 [15:03] yeah i liked it too, but it not what people described. i hat high expectations because the huge praise it got in the reviews [15:03] Lord_Khelben: Did you have any icon issues as far as the oxygen icons not being there and having to install them yourself? [15:03] Action: webbi brain game: twolf won a 42'' plasma lcd... fire|bird will give it to you [15:03] sweet! [15:03] bnhashmi: at the office, I'm still learning it [15:03] when i'll type a phrase without any typos i'll buy everyone beer :P [15:03] twolf: sorry, backordered, you'll have to wait. :P [15:04] hahahahaha [15:04] fire|bird: when i downloaded the source there was a oxygen-icons-4.3.0.tar or something [15:04] hehe [15:04] they were separate than kdebase-workspace [15:04] Lord_Khelben: yeah, same here, but it didn't get installed for me. I must have somehow messed it up. [15:04] Urchlay, :() nice i just need to know what is the first file of the month 4 to get files of month 3 [15:04] tks man [15:05] have problem with npre Return code of 127 for check of service 'Swap Usage' on host 'system-1' was out of bounds. Make sure the plugin you're trying to run actually exists. [15:05] fire|bird: i installed it fine but when i upgradepkg-ed the package there were many "removed" lines so there are still some icons missing that i couldn't find anywhere [15:05] Lord_Khelben: yeah, I ended up just going to System Settings and installing the oxygen icons that way, all is fine now. [15:05] i will give you a gift to not get bored ><(((() "> a fish ! [15:05] bnhashmi, should have stuck around the nagios room a little longer [15:05] bnhashmi: did you run the script check from the command line to see if it worked? [15:06] Urchlay, ><()() "> [15:06] yup its ruuning fine but fro remote host this stupid error [15:06] James__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:06] help [15:06] James__: with what? [15:07] I boot on a slax USB drive but I need to mount the slackware drive so I can run Lilo. when i run it from the slax and i mount /dev/sda2 to /a and cd /a/etc/ lilo -V lilo.conf i get error boot sector and map file are on different disks [15:07] _jhw_ (n=_jhw_@p548F48AD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:07] so i cant acces my linux drive [15:07] chatran (n=chatran@200.146.119.6) left irc: "Leaving" [15:07] i tried in nagios room but now one is willing to answer even very bored channel [15:07] James__: did you try a chroot first? [15:07] when i boot slack I suddenly get LinuxEBDA is big [15:08] i dont know what caused it [15:08] bnhashmi: xxjx: "[12:08:10] bnhashmi, should have stuck around the nagios room a little longer" [15:08] EBDA? [15:08] James__: that is what the Slackware boot CD (or USB installer) is for [15:08] i dont have a slackware boot cd here, all i got is an usb drive [15:08] Better than the SLAX USB thing [15:08] so i laoded slax since i cant find slackware for usb drive [15:08] James__: fail [15:09] There is a slackware usb install image on the Slackware DVD [15:09] alienBOB, haha [15:09] I got installed wireless driver but i cant find networks?! [15:09] James__: if all you wanted to do was run lilo on the hard drive, then you could have used the usb image of the slackware installer to do that [15:09] Boot from it, and read the text that is presented to you. It will tell you how to boot into your system right away. Then you can run lilo [15:10] James__: "boot: huge.s root=/dev/sda1" comes to mind [15:10] Something like that alisonken1home - but not _exactly_ like that [15:10] James__: "boot: huge.s root=/dev/sda1 ro" (forgot the ro part) [15:10] I do it all of the time when I have a problem [15:10] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [15:10] x1user: are you sure that it was succesfully detected? [15:10] Still not 100% ;-) [15:11] webbi: how can i check [15:11] rdinit part ? [15:11] x1user: look at output from iwconfig [15:11] alienBOB: :) I've only had about 2hrs sleep so far (woke up for some reason) [15:11] Lord_Khelben i've installed the new xorg everything got fine after installing evdev [15:11] x1user: glad to hear it worked [15:12] x1user: you can check with dmesg | tail if it show you your correct device [15:12] alienBOB: yes i see the wlan0 device [15:12] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@95.69.121.116) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] Good now run: ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan [15:13] That should show you wireless networks if they are available [15:14] webbi: this last attempt failed too. qemu just sits at Booting from hard disk. :P [15:14] it give some output? [15:14] fire|bird: well, every step you are closer [15:15] webbi: yeah, just not close enough. :P [15:15] I don't know what to do with it next. [15:15] haha it works now!?! [15:16] ive tried wlan0 up earlier but with no succes, now works thanks [15:16] NoFear-Aw (n=1@62.215.151.181) left irc: [15:16] Does anyone also knows how to enable tap click on my pointing device? [15:17] where can i download the slackware usb image [15:17] x1user: dunno - mine just worked (hp pavillion laptop) [15:17] James__: it's part of the slackware install disk1 [15:17] James__: in the usual places [15:18] I got SonyVaio FW 140 with Alps Pointing device [15:18] And btw it is not an USB image for a live Slackware... it is just the installer. And that is all you need to fix your lili issue [15:18] under "PXE and USB Installers" directory [15:18] x1user: I have an asus eeepc and the "tap to click" just "works" in slackware-current [15:19] chatran (n=chatran@200.146.119.6.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:19] why cal 1752 on have half of month september ? [15:19] yes but i run xorg 1.6.3 by default it was working [15:19] but it dont with the latest xorg [15:19] Also, the other cool stuff like, sliding with two fingers at the same time acts like moving a window scrollbar... tapping two fingers at once is like clicking the right mouse button, tapping 3 fingers at once is the middle mouse button [15:20] i am not sure if this is hardware feature, otherwise it will be awesome [15:20] And I am using the latest xorg here [15:20] can i see you xorg.conf file [15:21] I have no xorg.conf file at all! [15:21] I let HAL figure it out [15:21] does anyone know about LTE ? [15:21] hi [15:21] how ? can you explain better [15:21] alienBOB, any recommendations on the eeepc [15:22] what model to get [15:22] juice: I am happy with mine. I can not tell what you should buy [15:22] what model? [15:22] I wanted one with a real harddrive. [15:22] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "Leaving" [15:22] 1000h [15:22] cool [15:23] I think that is the one I saw last weekend [15:23] that I liked [15:23] hey juice, how's it going? [15:23] chatran (n=chatran@200.146.119.6.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:23] sick sort of [15:23] feeling better woke up ealier and had fever and hurt [15:23] went back to bed for a few hours and feel a lot better [15:24] i haven't gotten much sleep in the past week [15:24] goot to hear you're feeling better. :) [15:24] so I think it caught up with me [15:24] yeah still have a slight headache and muscle aches [15:24] alienBOB: can you explain what you do with HAL to configure your devices? [15:24] this sucks, best friend's girl is talking to me about some guy she met and really likes and how things with my friend are shit. [15:25] graaaaah [15:25] lol [15:25] owned [15:25] haha [15:25] x1user: I do nothing. This here is a nearly unconfigured slackware-current. I use all default settings, except for having configured my network [15:26] in my case what can i do [15:26] I have no idea [15:27] sattam (n=sattam@unaffiliated/sattam) joined ##slackware. [15:27] I was lucky enough that I could tweak slackware-current so that it worked 100% for an eeepc 1000h. Like, the wireless driver had to be built from the set of 'staging' drivers [15:28] I told Pat "hey you got to enable this rt2860 driver" [15:28] rt2860 isnt in the kernel yet [15:29] spook: it is in the Slackware kernel [15:29] rt2860sta [15:29] But since it is listed as "staging" you also have to enable the staging drivers [15:29] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:30] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) left irc: "Leaving" [15:30] alienBOB: first I heard of slackware staging [15:30] alisonken1home: not Slackware staging. Kernel staging [15:30] ah [15:30] oh cool. [15:31] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:31] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:32] I think in Slackware history there was only a single kernel package that got a BUILD number of '2' and that was to add this rt2860sta [15:33] is it possible at some point to also add config_efi_partition i told you the other day ? [15:35] i think it was funny [15:36] Lord_Khelben: if you have a good story for that request, you can always send it to volkerdi [15:36] SarcasticIrony: Well, it's not the only thing you're wrong about today... [15:36] but, I digress. [15:37] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] I HATE FEDORA [15:37] argch [15:37] Zordrak: Just upgrade to centos. [15:37] Zordrak: kudos [15:37] Zordrak: I hear their leadership is pretty good. [15:38] cant even get fc3 to ssh to another box using a certificate [15:38] Lord_Khelben: it is required for > 2TB partitions? [15:38] alienBOB: extended_partition is already enabled along with karma etc so it isn't an invasive change. gpt works fine for some time now. i can ofcourse compile the install kernels myself but it is time consuming only for this change [15:38] now that they have it straightened out? [15:38] sattam (n=sattam@unaffiliated/sattam) left ##slackware. [15:38] i guess he will busy now with the 13.0 release so i'll mail him after 13.0 is released [15:38] john_dee (n=id@93-81-2-3.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [15:38] Zordrak: is that a config issue on the ssh side of things perhaps? [15:38] Lord_Khelben: there will definitely be no more kernel upgrades before 13.0 [15:39] gpt has many advantages over mbr but yes if you have >2tb partitions mbr doesn't work [15:39] eviljames: trying like hell to mod the config till it works.. but no matter what it still just asks for the passwordi [15:39] Lord_Khelben: the question is, what will stop working after enabling EFI [15:39] yes i understand that. he wouldn't make such a change before the release [15:40] julioc (i=1000@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) joined ##slackware. [15:40] Zordrak: Did you make sure to have your private key passwordless? [15:40] eviljames: yep. [15:40] aic (n=anrxc@80-123-26-2.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:40] aic (n=anrxc@80-123-26-2.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit [15:41] alienBOB: most likely nothing since it isn't used if the disk uses mbr but i understand your point [15:41] Did you also make the ~/.ssh and below readable to you only Zordrak? Some implementations require this [15:42] Zordrak: make a password certificate and use ssh-agent for better security [15:42] alienBOB: no diff [15:42] This is a one time only thing [15:42] just need a copy to start at 4am [15:42] once [15:43] screw it.. instead of pushing from fc3 ill pull from slakc [15:43] *slack [15:43] fedora core 3? old enough for you? [15:44] most stable fedora yet [15:44] spook: current mailserver.,. im spending my whole weekend at work migrating it to slack [15:44] good. [15:44] ++ [15:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:48] right.. see y'all bright and early on Migration Day (tmrw) [15:49] at least you can get help here if your hair starts falling out [15:50] Perhaps.. depends on how complex the sitch'ashun is.. and whether rob0 and Dominian are about ;) [15:50] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:50] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:50] "falling out" or 'torn out" [15:50] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Deuces."). [15:50] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [15:50] whichever is worse [15:52] does slackware 13 still have xmms [15:52] SarcasticIrony, yes [15:53] woot [15:53] but i think it was removed few versions ago [15:53] it was for a minute [15:53] yeah [15:53] re :) [15:53] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [15:53] pat talked about it on changelog [15:54] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-13-248.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] or it was on xmms homepage , cant really remember [15:54] they got mad about it :^) [15:54] xmms homepage is always fun [15:54] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [15:54] err, no they did not get mad. And it's back since 12.2 [15:56] as i recall , they sent some jokes to pat [15:57] too bad gnome absorbed gnumeric and abiword [15:57] nobody uses xmms anyway [15:57] its deprecated [15:57] i use it [15:57] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] i use audacious [15:57] what? i use xmms for all my audio listening [15:58] DeeeeP: you are obsolete [15:58] remember that Twilight Zone episode? [15:58] nope [15:59] nobody uses ed/vi they are deprecated [15:59] audacious is just fine for what i need [15:59] dont need crappy QT AMAROK [15:59] so many crappy media players [15:59] my favorite joke is NOATUN [15:59] i will agree with you about amarok, thats just too much for an audio/video player [15:59] audacious is pretty nice for some time now, in the beginning it crashed every 2 secs [16:00] but still xmms > all [16:00] amarok2 > xmms [16:00] audacious is xmms almost , with enhanced menus and look [16:00] xmms > mpg123 [16:00] a taglib xmms supporting id3v2 2.4 (utf8) would be great [16:00] what happened to BEEP/BMP [16:00] I convinced gf that kde3 can now be abandoned for kde4. It took months - but she caved! [16:01] s/months/weeks/ probably.. [16:01] eviljames: she did, finally? sweet [16:01] fire|bird: yeah, so now it's on desktop & laptop both. 'bout damn time :D [16:01] \o/ [16:01] kde4 can now be abandoned for xfce4 [16:01] my favorite movie player is dragonplayer -.- [16:01] amarok is nice but it is like a full DE for music. i find it too complicated. i see as the music player for someoney with 2TB of mp3 in tons of directories [16:02] Amazingly, I haven't had any migration complaints. I figured there would be enough changes in her favorite apps to warrant asking how to get things done. [16:02] Nope, nada! [16:02] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@187.37.48.81) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Hi :) [16:02] next time just distract her with something shiny and do the upgrade [16:02] hello gar0t0 [16:02] y0 gar0t0 [16:02] fire|bird: how are you man ? [16:02] s/shiny/diamond/ :P [16:03] eviljames, bet she like compiz and stuff :) [16:03] interestingly here, she insists on keeping her vista laptop, but has no problem on my linux home box when she want's to surf and letters and stuff [16:03] gar0t0: doing excellent, thanks. you? [16:03] DeeeeP: I was using compiz on kde3 prior to that, but she immediately tried to change windows using top-right corner shortcut and change desktops using top left corner shortcut. [16:03] DeeeeP: It was win. [16:03] fire|bird: fine :) [16:03] fire|bird: thnks [16:04] Lord_Khelben: :) hey!! [16:06] praedictus (i=1001@189-92-241-185.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:08] etf (i=c9025e8b@gateway/web/freenode/x-rlzhtjczcsbzmivi) joined ##slackware. [16:09] ok; here's a q for you guru's: as root/tty0, i started fluxbox; i want to bring that to the fg and replace with another wm. how? [16:10] what [16:10] Quiznos: ctrl-alt-f2, login, xwconfig (or change your .xinitrc file), startx -- :1 [16:10] s/xwconfig/xwmconfig/g [16:10] bisco ty, but that's a static answer. not what i want to do. [16:10] he cant use that console , cause its used on fluxbox , he should use fluxbox & [16:11] bisco i'm a (guru-1-1) [16:11] i think u cant change wm in real-time [16:11] i need to kill it , to launch other [16:11] u need * [16:11] i know it can bc some wm do allow dynamic changing of wm's [16:12] bc ? [16:12] i can use console [16:12] bc=because [16:12] bc==because [16:12] kde/gnome does but it is not "changing the wm". kdm runs x on a new display [16:12] ok; how else then? [16:13] you can do what bisco said [16:13] that's a static answer [16:13] his ans requires a kill and restart [16:13] login on another tty and run startx on :1 display (this is what the WMs do) [16:13] Quiznos: what do you mean with "static answer"? try to explain better your need [16:13] xwmconfig is a config script; not for dynamic use [16:14] to setup a script to choose a startup wm [16:14] Quiznos: may be you want to change window manager in a Desktop Environment... [16:14] I seem to recall in my early slack days that fvwm95 had a menu option to switch dm' [16:14] s [16:14] alisonken1home yea [16:14] alisonken1home: windowmaker/icewm too [16:14] brb [16:15] Zordrak: migrating to slack eh? [16:15] Zordrak: postfix I'm assuming? should be easy enough if you use Alan_Hicks's build from slackbuilds.org [16:15] Quiznos: bisco's answer is the best/quickest way to do it [16:15] well, if audacious is makeing progress then good, i will give it a spin when slackware 13 goes gold, i will tearfully say goodbye to xmms as it has been like an old friend [16:15] or run kdm and do it from it [16:15] Lord_Khelben, best is control - alt - backspace ; xwmconfig ; startx [16:16] DeeeeP: hehe yes but he doesn't want to exit the current [16:16] Lord_Khelben: he doesn't want to close the running session and he wants to change wm on the fly [16:16] the only question is will that keep the other programs running in the new wm without restarting them as well [16:16] and X will allow him to launch another wm on same display ? [16:16] yes the programs keep running [16:17] ok; Quiznos here in gooey; fluxbox has a sysmenu option for switching wm's dynamically. blackbox is now running [16:17] the new wm will run on a new display not the same [16:17] how does fluxbox implement wm switching? [16:17] chking Lord_Khelben [16:17] PurpleSmurf: your apps are still running ? [16:17] Lord_Khelben nop; :0 ONLY is being used. [16:17] Lord_Khelben yes they are, all of em [16:17] nothing lots [16:17] lost [16:18] so the q is, `how is wm-switching implemented?' [16:18] DeeeeP: I think that it is a wm feature, not an X feature... [16:19] windowmaker just execs the new wm over itself [16:19] i suppose fluxbox does the same [16:19] so it's internal only? [16:19] and u cant resume windowmaker at any time , keeping the "over itself" one ? [16:19] u can * [16:20] DeeeeP: you can again run windowmaker from the other one [16:20] llolol [16:20] but this is not "dynamic switching" per se [16:20] for example you can't run kde this way [16:20] and you will lose 1º windowmaker open apps [16:20] or gnome [16:20] which pkg is icewm in? [16:21] yes or gnome [16:21] either x or xap [16:21] this is something like the compiz --replace [16:21] k [16:21] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [16:21] the proper way (and the one kdm/gdm use) is opening a new display and run there [16:21] icewm is part of kde? [16:22] as I remember, no... [16:22] one can manually trigger it by running "kdmctl reserve" in order to test it (if he is running kdm) [16:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.at.shellium.org expired. [16:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:23] Quiznos: if you are referring to http://packages.slackware.it/search.php?v=12.2&t=2&q=icewm [16:23] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:24] I think that it is not the window manager [16:24] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/icewm/ [16:25] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware ("No matter how dark the night, somehow the Sun rises once again"). [16:25] nooper_ (n=nooper@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[16:35] btw why two tuxes has been exhanged with crow? :) [16:35] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:35] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:36] ElmerJFudd (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:36] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:36] ktos: that's not a crow, that's tuz, the 2.6.29 releases used that, it's for awareness of the tazmanian devil. [16:36] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] re [16:37] x11 locked up [16:37] tunder overhead; loud [16:37] |ast| (n=lilo78@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [16:38] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:38] hehe [16:39] i wish you could hear the volumn of the storm; impressive [16:39] it really scared me :) [16:39] tooly (n=tooly@e178151254.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [16:40] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [16:41] no further info on wm-switching? [16:41] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Connection timed out [16:41] oh!!! the air temp outside has dropped like 15F degs!!! [16:42] Tornado time! [16:42] nah [16:42] Action: eviljames starts spinnnig his office chair [16:42] i don't know anything more. you can google it while you wait for opinions from people with more experience [16:42] no notes on tv [16:42] uva (i=bno@118-168-237-111.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Lord_Khelben yea [16:42] i think your "internal" i accurate [16:42] s/i{2}/is/ [16:43] internal ? [16:43] yea [16:43] exec [16:43] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] Quiznos: s/i/is/2 I find to be more readable [16:43] heh [16:43] maybe I'm wrong, though :D [16:43] a tornado/storm/hurricane/whatever would be nice here too [16:43] more slashes cant be wrong [16:43] i am going to melt on the chair :( [16:44] nice wind in the windows!! [16:44] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:44] Nick change: n1hub -> nlhub [16:44] wow i wish i had a nic here [16:44] crap.... i need to go guys, see you later! [16:44] bye! [16:44] impressively close tunder [16:44] bye webbi [16:44] gn webbi [16:44] webbi (n=webi@190.247.201.22) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] Hi, i'm Quiznos and my mother is a self-denying liberal. [16:45] You mean a republican? [16:45] http://waterloolabs.blogspot.com/2009/08/fps-with-real-guns-episode-02.html [16:46] conservative [16:46] she doesnt even wanna discuss politics [16:46] Neither do we. [16:46] That's why ##slackofftopic was set up :D [16:46] indeed [16:47] cant prevent dynamism of people's minds [16:47] I use the generic we, I personally enjoy political debate. [16:47] Action: Quiznos pokes james; come on, let's mix it up ;) [16:47] put em up... [16:47] Sure, join ##slackofftopic [16:47] We can discuss why your healthcare system is so vastly inferior to the Canadian one. [16:47] but it's so unlike me [16:48] Or why Reagan was the most idiotic president ever. [16:48] slackware's healthcare system IS NOT inferior. you northerners are crossing the border for better distributions!!! [16:48] hahaha [16:48] touche. [16:48] [snap]!!! got em [16:48] th thvm. [16:48] lol [16:49] you buy our bits, our packages [16:49] lol [16:50] Looks like AMD/ATI is going to contribute KMS code for Radeon chips to kernel 2.6.31! [16:50] i always thought that wm-switching was by script; if it's internal... [16:50] kms? [16:50] Anybody think that's a Good Thing (tm)? [16:50] Kernel Mode Switching [16:50] lol [16:50] free code is always good; whether it's good enough is for many eyes to determine [16:51] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] same with M#'s code [16:51] I have just discovered there was modprobe button throught theese all years... :D [16:51] Also, it appears the X-Fi is getting kernel support! [16:51] etf (i=c9025e8b@gateway/web/freenode/x-rlzhtjczcsbzmivi) left irc: "Page closed" [16:51] wow; i'm a few years out of the loop; X-Fi? [16:51] Quiznos: Considering that their code is device drivers to ensure linux works better under MS HyperVisor [16:51] what button? where? [16:51] I plan to disable that on every build. [16:51] ah [16:52] power button [16:52] id ont have a problem with m#'s porpose for giving code [16:52] X-Fi is a (supposedly) high-end Audio device from creative. [16:52] ok [16:53] btw, the has in M# is deliberate; i dont recognise finalanicial superiority [16:53] lol [16:54] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] high fire [16:54] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest2833 [16:54] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:54] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> JtH [16:54] ol the Grand Nagus actor played with the Huxtables back in the day. he was funi then [16:55] s/ol/lol [16:55] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:55] wow i'm cold in florida. [16:55] sw fla. no less [16:55] brrr [16:56] impossible, liar. [16:56] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:56] well i'm with minial clothes atm [16:56] maybe that's a factor [16:56] in front of a window [16:56] windy [16:56] I went to florida once, when I got off the plane I thought I was in the middle of a blast furnace [16:56] you were [16:56] it was fsckin CRAZY! So unblievably hot.. [16:56] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-13-248.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [16:56] Then the doors of the airport opened up and I realized that I was still in an air conditioned area. [16:56] yea no such thing as `global warming' [16:56] just a heat storm [16:57] el nino [16:57] nah [16:57] i miss northern seasons tho [16:57] north eastern [16:58] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:58] duuuude wtf [16:58] huh? [16:58] netconfig wipes out /etc/hosts ? [16:58] no! [16:58] i get too many errors running X/KDE non-root [16:58] it was not like that before, but there was always at least one error [16:58] dchmelik run a [gxk]dm as root and login proper [16:58] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:59] praedictus (i=1001@189-92-241-185.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] how do you get the XFCE shutdown/restart buttons working for normal users [16:59] duno [16:59] so i should run kdm instead of startx? [16:59] i'm being disabused of gooeying [16:59] yea [17:00] Nick change: JtH -> CmdLnKid [17:00] dchmelik, what errors [17:00] dchmelik: It's probably easier to just "telinit 4" [17:00] and change inittab to 4 as the default runlevel. [17:01] In short, for once Quiznos and I agree :P [17:01] there is always a problematic .ICEAuthority and it has some problem with the dcopserver when running various programs and opening various files [17:01] yay [17:01] w00ho0 [17:01] 2nd time iinm [17:01] i do not know why i would telinit 4 [17:01] see, i'm not wrong; just crazy [17:02] dchmelik, you can clean up your settings in ~/ and the problem should go away [17:02] two completely different bowl of fish [17:02] which settings? [17:02] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-106-191.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] kde ones .Xauthority, .ICEAuthority, stuff in /tmp/ also [17:02] might need to run xwmconfig if you go overboard [17:02] I have to delete ICEAuthority every time and it comes back [17:03] I also chowned it [17:03] and it does the same thing [17:03] it comes back, it must be conflicting with some broken config file somewhere in your home [17:03] you can always make a new user and test it out to see if it has the bugs [17:03] i guess so [17:03] which it wont at least until cruft builds up i guess [17:04] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [17:04] i think it would be easier to try to force my IM/IRC client to run as a user and just run X/KDE root. it is not worth all the trouble [17:05] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] use kdesu to run it as any user [17:05] however if I leave it on it will run as root the next time I start [17:06] (the client, I mean) [17:06] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:06] mercury drop-off centers established by 1 or more counties; accepting any device containing mercury [17:06] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [17:06] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [17:06] what none-sense; STOP SELLING THOSE DEVICES [17:07] dchmelik: I am of the mind that the root account should be used as little as humanly possible. [17:07] Quiznos, they recycle it into food to save the environment [17:07] pff [17:08] well there is a new law against incandescents which has china producing massive amounts of mercury containing lights for the US [17:08] SarcasticIrony it's not a law; it's a rule; different kind of beast [17:08] something something [17:09] crt's havent actually been outlawed; govt's didnt create it; they cant outlaw it [17:09] they outlaw plants [17:09] no they dont [17:09] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:09] if you say so, i can name a few [17:09] they cant outlaw naturality; even if it's harmful to the body. [17:10] i know what you mean [17:10] they can just criminalize it [17:10] SarcasticIrony: thats why i bought over 100 incandescent lightbulbs, i have a large box full with various candle power = 40, 60, 75, 100 [17:10] dchmelik: has your issue been resolved? [17:10] yea well; if one doesnt know the law, comprehend it, one cant protect sone's self [17:10] no, eviljames [17:10] hi pig [17:10] hi [17:10] apparently something just went bad with my config files [17:10] dchmelik stop looking so close at stuff [17:11] just play with your files [17:11] :) [17:11] just play with your rifles [17:11] them too [17:11] incandescent bulbs are small potatoes compared to heat & air and refrigeration and TVs and computers [17:11] Pig_Pen context is mercury [17:11] It's hard to resolve people's issues when there is so much offtopic going on outside of ##slackofftopic [17:11] Pig_Pen, how can we get more mercury into the average household? forced vaccinations and light bulb mandates [17:12] evilJames look for the highlited lines [17:12] the mercury in those compact flourscent bulbs is the main reason i bought all those incandescent bulbs [17:12] dchmelik: So, sorry for my ignorance, but if I asked you to break it down for me in 100 words or less would that be possible? [17:12] i agree eviljames , i be quiet now [17:13] Pig_Pen: Not saying be quiet, just that the convo might be better placed in another chan :D [17:13] A chan that currently has no bans *hint* [17:13] ##nolurking [17:13] :) [17:13] yes, eviljames, but I think i will just delete ~/.kde* , ~/.X* ~/.x* and start over with those [17:13] dchmelik, clean up /tmp too [17:14] dchmelik: Ok, let us know how it pans out. Also check into /tmp [17:14] ok [17:14] after shutting down X of course [17:14] yeah [17:14] k, with that. o/t becomes welcome again :D [17:14] yay [17:15] go look at the product sheets for the new vaccinations being made against manbearpig...SQUALENE and THEMERISOL [17:15] ultimate combo for making insane morons [17:15] so everyone comes to america to use our superior distributions and do americans ever complain!?!? NO NO NO we dont. [17:15] WTF [17:15] is there a way to change the default '/home?' [17:15] Americans complain all damn day long! [17:15] dchmelik: in what regard? [17:15] dchmelik, yes, move your /home and make /home a symlink or change in fstab [17:16] brits are being denied access to superior methods of distribution making by a board of superivisor tell who can have distributions [17:16] symlink works fine here for a long time [17:16] like, you want to have your users' home folders in, say, /export/home ? [17:16] or make /home/username a symlink [17:16] eviljames hell yea, we're never satisfied, but do we deny what we have to foreogners who validly visit? nop. [17:16] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-72.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:16] dchmelik you can peekers into /etc/log* files (used by login_) [17:16] Nick change: Guest2833 -> fire|bird [17:17] welcome Guest2833 [17:17] dchmelik see adduser, useradd manpagen [17:17] eviljames, like making it /usr/home instead of /home or something like that [17:17] lots of ways to do it...even /etc/passwd can change home [17:17] dchmelik [17:17] Obey your inner Quiznos :)~ [17:17] SarcasticIrony: please keep your crazy to slackware offtopic channel [17:18] lol [17:18] spook, no lurking [17:18] oh wait, you got banned for racism. [17:18] i was afk for a minute [17:18] how is an irc mode racist [17:18] what if i want to use both /home and /usr/home? [17:18] you kids and your ad-hominem [17:19] dchmelik do so per user then [17:19] dchmelik see adduser, useradd manpagen [17:19] dchmelik, look at format of /etc/passwd [17:20] i am thinking of moving all my files to /home instead of /root... but then i do not want adduser to use '/home'.... [17:21] not going to touch that with a 10' pole [17:21] oh [17:21] dchmelik then set it up manually [17:21] oh my no. [17:21] lol [17:21] if that is the best way to do it [17:21] dchmelik do you have a mind of howto do it? [17:21] yes [17:21] fstab [17:21] THEN DO IT!!! [17:21] no no no [17:21] but whatever [17:22] every way is right except for what kills your system :) [17:22] well my files are on a partition [17:22] timtowdy [17:22] phenoetic [17:22] lol [17:22] what is phenoetic? [17:22] by snd [17:22] phoenician [17:22] /home -> /mnt/mini-store-b/home/ [17:22] phonics [17:22] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-77-52.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:22] phenoetic means it "sounds like" [17:22] thats how i moved them [17:22] yea [17:23] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-180-181.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:23] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [17:24] http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?tasks=all&project=1&due=11&status= yay, only two more bugs to fix! [17:25] thanks for the advice/help... i will be back later [17:25] dchmelik: good luck! [17:25] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [17:26] spook, www.biopharma.com/Samples/393.html [17:28] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] Kenny_Duehit (i=Kenny_Du@belcorcnas03-3637611401.dial.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:30] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:30] yea, you read correctly.....DIALUP.. :( [17:30] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:30] Pig_Pen: is crux a personal project of yours? [17:30] Kenny_Duehit: WTF WHY? [17:30] :P [17:31] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A760A4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] eviljames: visiting my parent, helping out with farm work. [17:31] ahh [17:31] makes sense. [17:31] farmnet=gaynet [17:31] no, Crux is my favorite distro next to slackware [17:31] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.8.63) joined ##slackware. [17:31] greetings [17:32] y0 slackytude, how goes? [17:32] fire|bird, y0! doing fine. just read some dick. [17:32] s/read/need/ for what he's really saying... [17:33] that's what she said [17:33] I love it when she says that. [17:33] urmom? [17:34] OHGODWH [17:34] Y [17:34] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A72641.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] bah [17:34] OHGODWHY, there's two slackytude's [17:35] howdy BP{k} [17:35] fire|bird, my connection got infected by yours. its now crappy too [17:35] Anyone from around Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, know how the job market is looking for computer service technicians specializing in networking? (admins basically) [17:35] :D [17:35] fire|bird, got your image transfered? [17:35] fire|bird: howdy :) [17:35] Kenny_Duehit, get in line [17:35] slackytude2: yup, and it failed. [17:35] greetings BP{k} [17:35] Kenny_Duehit: I was living in Ottawa 5 years ago. [17:35] fire|bird, oh [17:35] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [17:35] howdo slackytude2 :) [17:36] slackytude2: qemu just sits at Booting Hard Disk. :/ [17:36] SarcasticIrony: is it that flooded out there? [17:36] thumbs: why did you leave? [17:36] slackytude2: VBox's usb has mysteriously started working, so I'm using that + clonezilla to restore the clonezilla image, so far, that is working. [17:36] Kenny_Duehit: found a job in Montreal [17:37] thumbs: also a nice city....too much french for me though :P [17:38] fire|bird, no funny stuff [17:38] I can tolerate it. [17:38] fire|bird, nice [17:39] I just read some phillip dick [17:39] he writes crazy stuff [17:39] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [17:39] SarcasticIrony said "Kenny_Duehit, get in line" to my job hunting....Do I take his advise or teat it as sarcastic irony? [17:40] Kenny_Duehit, both [17:41] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [17:46] http://pastebin.com/m15665e0f my uncle needs help finding a job too [17:48] lol [17:48] nice [17:48] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:48] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:49] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A760A4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:50] drirc [17:50] drunk irc [17:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [17:52] y0 hiptobecubic [17:52] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] sorenp1 (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:53] hi [17:53] i need to put slackware on an usb key that is bootable already [17:53] what msut i copy [17:53] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:54] i need some .tar to extract on the usb stick? [17:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) joined ##slackware. [17:54] James__: usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [17:55] can i do it from windows [17:55] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Connection timed out [17:55] i need to boot my slackware drive and i have no dvds here so i need to boot it from usb key [17:55] just boot, or install? [17:55] Nick change: stig -> snorks [17:55] i would like to see a kernel .config that would make a usb bootable kernel (including any required mkinitrd parameters) [17:56] the lilu is broken so i need to boot /dev/sda2 and run lilo , and I already put slax on an usb stick but i cant boot the /dev/sda2 to run lilo [17:56] James__: look at the link spook gave you. :) [17:56] yesyes_ (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:57] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [17:57] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:57] julioc (i=1000@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) left irc: "WOW!" [17:57] i cant find the link can you please repaste it :) [17:57] ktos (n=ktos@adfm75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [17:57] James__: usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [17:58] from windows, this might do the trick: unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [17:58] yeah i have that one [17:58] but i only got access to vista [17:58] so how do i put slackware on this usb from vista [17:58] spook, http://www.flyingdogales.com/Beer-Specialty-Doublepale.aspx [17:58] Kenny_Duehit (i=Kenny_Du@belcorcnas03-3637611401.dial.bell.ca) left irc: "Pizza time" [17:59] CmdLnKid_ (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [17:59] SarcasticIrony: http://911conspiracynutjobdating.com [17:59] with slax it is very easy i just unrar .tar on the usb disk [17:59] spook, ad-hominem, you dont know physics do you [17:59] but where do i find .rar of slackware [18:00] James__: there isn't a .rar for slackware usb [18:00] you know nothing about the "Big Lies" which when repeated enough always are believed [18:00] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:00] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [18:01] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:01] fossfun (n=fossfun@unaffiliated/fossfun) joined ##slackware. [18:01] SarcasticIrony: tell us more. [18:01] carmodi (n=k@S010600179a266a4b.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:01] so how do i boot slackware of this usb so i can boot=/dev/sda2 and then boot my drive and run lilo? [18:01] i cant do that from slax usb live usb [18:01] manually patching gtk2 today has already earned its worth [18:02] no more lag typing /usr/bin/ [18:02] hi, how can i boot /dev/sda2 when loading the slax on usb ? [18:03] spook, i suggest you go read some hitler quotes to figure out how you may have been brainwashed [18:03] how did he turn humans into racist murderers in short time? stage crisis, blame enemy, profit [18:04] Yes, yes, we all know who burned the reichstag [18:04] James__: I believe that question is better asked to a slax channel. [18:04] but do you know physics to locate modern day reichstags [18:05] do you know history to locate descendents of nazi funders [18:05] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:05] fossfun (n=fossfun@unaffiliated/fossfun) left irc: "." [18:05] James__: but the usb-and-pxe-installers/ has a usbboot.img that you can dd to a usb jump drive to boot from. Or burn one of the disks from slackware.no [18:05] SarcasticIrony: Are you a bot stringing random words together? [18:06] eviljames, yes [18:06] Ahh.. that makes much more sense. [18:06] are you a drone stringing meaningless materialistic desires together [18:06] eviljames: James__ doesn't have any dvd's to use and he's on Vista. dd can be used in vista however, can't it? [18:06] Well, that sounds like me. [18:07] fire|bird: perhaps with cygwin [18:07] you will find out whats really important when everything is taken away from you [18:08] riiight.. let me guess, you also want to see Obama's birth certificate? [18:08] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.51) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] yea, but they passed a law forbidding access to standing presidents information [18:09] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [18:09] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] you figure the new world order pics a woman or a black man to be president near the end [18:10] its all a joke [18:10] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:10] you certainly are... [18:10] well, a black man as president? yeah, that must be the sign the end is near [18:10] slackytude, hi [18:10] you will figure it out [18:10] its a SHELL GAME [18:11] obviously, otherwise, he would be whit [18:11] obviously, otherwise, he would be white [18:11] its so obvious now [18:11] color means nothing [18:11] oh [18:11] now it doesnt? [18:11] in reality, but they've made us think it means something [18:12] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "Caindo fora! Parem com papo braindead no cala!!!" [18:13] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:13] i know the worst thing to admit is that you have been HAD....but you will find it getting harder and harder to rationalize reality until you embrace truth and stop being a brainwashed self-proclaimed skeptic [18:13] burn your tv [18:13] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-176-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [18:14] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.8.63) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Pekwm! it ain't your grandma's wm :)"). [18:16] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@187.37.48.81) left irc: "fui embora!! coisas pra fazer :(" [18:17] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:20] idiots like GWB are the type to bring the world to the brink of destruction more than your average leader [18:22] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:22] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [18:22] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: No route to host [18:22] incompetence is the perfect cover for tyranny [18:24] dchmelik (n=David@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:25] A weird thing happened: after i rebooted and mounted my ~ partition to /home instead of /root, my system is not able to access the wireless router... i did /etc/rc.d/rc.dhcp restart, but it stayed the same... likely it is just a coincidence, or has anyone seen such a problem...? [18:26] it does have a dhcp lease though [18:26] rc.wireless restart ? [18:26] i do not think i am using that... it is dhcp [18:26] actually i may have done a wireless.conf... it is wpa_supplicant [18:26] i didnt even know rc.dhcp existed [18:27] wait i mean rc.inet1 [18:27] that has dhcpcd in it [18:27] yarvin (n=yarvin@static-71-166-162-195.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] (i just aliased /etc/rc.inet1 to 'dhcp') [18:28] well rc.wireless might have something to do with it... rc.wireless! because non-ionizing em radiation is good for you! [18:28] hehe [18:28] bbl [18:30] 'rc.wireless restart' returned 'rc.wireless must be run by rc.inet1' [18:30] im no expert [18:30] phoenix^ (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:31] and i did nothing to rc.wireless.conf after the time i maybe set it up... but it looks like all my setup is in rc.inet1.conf [18:31] that sucks...slackware isnt supposed to do anything you dont tell it to...so you must have borked it [18:32] somehow [18:32] dchmelik: I've always found that wicd is much more useful than the rc scripts for wifi. [18:33] iirc, it can be found in extra/ under -current [18:33] for laptos yeag [18:34] But I'm still a little lost on a couple of things, 1) are you using root account exclusively? 2) Did you try to remount /root as /home ? [18:34] SarcasticIrony, well i did not do anything to my configuration... i just changed my home partition to '/home' rather than '/root'... and AFAIK the only thing one needs in root is .fonts.conf. [18:34] ive never heard of home being /root...so you are on your own [18:34] eviljames, no, my home partition was once mounted at '/root'. Now it is mounted at '/home' and root is the way it was [18:35] so instead of /root/dchmelik you are now using /home/dchmelik (or equivalent) ? [18:35] no, just '/home' [18:35] owned by my one-letter user [18:35] lol [18:35] u crazy [18:36] ... i see... [18:36] no you dont.... [18:36] only dchmelik can make sense of that [18:36] SarcasticIrony: For once, you're right. [18:36] dchmelik: you did some very weird things to your system, you better keep track of your mods or the sort of odd results occur [18:36] eviljames, try me [18:36] it is not going to hurt anything... i do not have any other users and if i let a friend login it will be to /usr/home/username... i asked about this earlier [18:37] alright, as long as you're keeping track of that sort of thing. [18:37] dchmelik, one question [18:37] do not tell me something in the system depends on '/home' being owned by root or something.... [18:37] dchmelik, why? [18:37] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:37] reboot/fix wireless and you are good to go it seems? [18:37] it is easier that way [18:37] dchmelik, you should fix this cluster fuck yourself [18:37] SarcasticIrony, well i did rc.inet1 restart... that is what you have to do to reset wireless... but i will try the wicd [18:38] dchmelik: wicd will be of much help to you. Make sure you add your user to the group netdev after you install. [18:38] easier? [18:38] slackytude, i do not want my ~ in some long path [18:38] confusingier [18:38] O_o [18:38] oh well [18:38] its your system [18:39] cd /;ln -s longpath x [18:39] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.139) joined ##slackware. [18:39] SarcasticIrony, i do not want extra files in / either [18:39] What's wrong with adhereing to FHS? [18:39] trying to keep your mess clean i see [18:39] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:40] eviljames, Unix uses '/usr/home' for users... does it really break FHS if i use '/home' for just one user? [18:40] someone mute me plx [18:41] i had root owned bu user:users and my network did not mess up after that.... [18:42] 'by user:users' [18:42] omg hax [18:42] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] dchmelik: I don't know that it does, it is just that this setup is quite atypical [18:42] dchmelik: But there's nothing inherently _wrong_ with the way you're doing it [18:42] if the system is broken something is wrong [18:43] freebsd has a symlink, ln -s /usr/home /home [18:43] what errors do you get for the wireless uplink [18:43] Indeed, and Solaris automounts /export/home/user to /home/user [18:43] but that's aside from the actual issue at hand. [18:43] We're all just being pedantic about /home :D [18:43] you like to see homos naked? [18:43] i did not see an error... it gets a dchp lease but it does not work... and cannot access the router from that machine (though i can access it from this machine.) [18:43] dchmelik: For wifi issues, I stand behind wicd until it fails :D [18:43] shallow and pedantic [18:43] Pig_Pen: mm.. indeed. [18:43] oh, home is where you make it [18:43] Pig_Pen: that's exactly how i find your cooking [18:44] eviljames, when i typed wicd it said not found.... [18:44] i seen that on familyguy last night [18:44] dchmelik: It's an extra package [18:44] dchmelik: 13rc2 or 12.2? [18:44] 12.2 [18:44] my dhcp died the other day when i updated dd-wrt for a hack [18:44] if i had some extra DVDs i would install 13rc2 [18:45] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:45] so i use static now i guess [18:45] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/extra/wicd/ [18:45] eviljames, is wicd in the ISOs? [18:45] oh, ok [18:46] dchmelik: if you're using a 32bit system, it's not a terribly difficult migration to go to 13rc2 [18:46] dchmelik: if you want to go from 32->64 there are some challenges :D [18:46] i have a stack of CDRs and DVD- & + blanks, i am still wating for 13 to turn gold [18:46] ok, thanks i will try it [18:46] eviljames, challenges in copying your /etc/ and /home and reinstalling? [18:46] SarcasticIrony: It can be achieved without doing that. [18:47] if you wanna be bald, sure [18:47] SarcasticIrony: If one were so inclined, anyhow. [18:47] haha crazy people [18:48] i have several questions on transitioning from root to a user... some for after i fix my network [18:48] step 1: do as little as possible as root. step 2: do everything you can as a user. [18:48] :D [18:49] step 3: follow first two steps as much as possible. [18:49] hehe... is '.font.conf' really the only file that must be in /root? my network thing seems more than a coincidence... [18:49] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [18:50] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] greetings and salutations [18:50] greetings andarius, how are you? [18:51] phoenix^: salutations, I am well. you ? [18:51] andarius: doing excellent, thank you. [18:51] greetings and salad dressings [18:51] dchmelik: Nothing depends on /root [18:51] ok... the other thing is i tried kdm as suggested but it seemed to do nothing after i tried logging in [18:52] dchmelik: you tweaked it to death, wipe and reinstall and dont fuck with it [18:52] good idea [18:53] Action: eviljames agrees [18:53] eviljames, doesnt blahkernel single depend on /root [18:53] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] Reinstall, and the IMMEDIATELY create yourself a user account [18:53] :D [18:53] CmdLnKid_ (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [18:53] take baby steps, only make known good adjustments if you go charles manson helter shelter on your slackware it will die [18:54] with its ~ at '/home' :) [18:54] linux is multi user... [18:54] even xp is [18:55] i have not gone charles manson helter skelter with linux for a long time [18:55] well DOS is not and i like it better than x pee [18:55] a few years ago I did LFS but it was more work than I remembered it being [18:55] Peace be with you [18:56] and upon you [18:56] terrorists [18:56] Do your jokes fall this flat in meatspace too? [18:56] it takes a certain level of sophistication [18:56] SarcasticIrony, people say that all throughout the East and probably used to in Greece [18:57] its called SARCASM [18:57] b0tn3t (n=void@209.180.207.66) joined ##slackware. [18:57] oh hai thar [18:57] ohai [18:57] well i am going to reinstall [18:57] ohel0 my firn3d [18:58] antiwire (i=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:59] stupid question: i've managed to make my taskbar in kde 'shrink' in width and now it stops about 80% across the screen, it's something in my ~/.kde directory, but plasmarc is apparently not correct, an one happen to off the top of their head know what file i need to fix? [18:59] love is over, antiwire is here [18:59] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] anyone* [18:59] yarvin (n=yarvin@static-71-166-162-195.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:59] SarcasticIrony: hey baby [18:59] b0tn3t, deleteor edit the config files manually ? [19:00] antiwire: the image made after sysprep failed here too, qemu just sits at "Booting hard disk" [19:00] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:00] SarcasticIrony: yes, I could do that, and then reconfigure everything, but thought I would ask you kind gents before doing all of that [19:00] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:00] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:00] b0tn3t, -> #kde [19:00] phoenix^: mine briefly flashes the windows booting screen and then bluescreens [19:00] b0tn3t, and right click doesnt let you fix taskbar? [19:01] seeing as there are about 150 files in the config folder.... [19:01] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:01] antiwire, phoenix^ sorry [19:01] i dont use kde [19:01] no, the taskbar is acting as though my resoution is about 1024 across [19:01] antiwire, phoenix^ got the tip from #windows [19:01] yeah has nothing to do with slackware b0tn3t its YOUR FAULT [19:01] antiwire: heh, vbox usb mysteriously started working, so I've got clonezilla booted there and it is restoring that image and if that works I'll let you know and if it does work, I'll convert that vdi to qemu. [19:02] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.39.139) joined ##slackware. [19:02] slackytude: it was worth it [19:02] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.19) left irc: [19:02] antiwire, it didnt work [19:02] slackytude: just eliminated one more variable [19:02] There should be some way to get them working though. :P [19:06] would it be more in compliance with FHS if I did 'ln -s /home/user home?' [19:06] I mean /home [19:06] lol./win 26 [19:06] bah. [19:06] fail [19:06] Action: BP{k} sets phoenix^ on fire. [19:06] my mouse just completely quit working, the corded mouse won't even work. [19:07] BP{k}: I'm a phoenix, I set myself on fire all the time, then I rise from the ashes. It's quite fun. :) [19:07] I had special mega sunblock on may face today so that [19:07] 's fine but... [19:07] my eyeballs are sunburned [19:07] dchmelik: you can do: ln -s /home /usr/home if it makes you feel better but i doubt it makes a difference, if there was any significance to it all the distros would have already done it [19:08] antiwire: can you still see? [19:08] again [19:08] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [19:08] yeah [19:08] I've thankfully never had sunburned eyeballs [19:08] but my eyeballs feel like fire [19:08] Pig_Pen, I meant using '/home' for one user... i will have a separate /usr/home [19:08] Howdy all [19:08] antiwire: hold a cold rag on them? [19:09] howdy a750mhzslinky [19:09] yep that helps some [19:10] Action: slackytude goes to sleep [19:10] see ya slackers [19:10] night slackytude [19:10] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [19:10] c ya slackytude [19:12] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:12] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [19:12] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest76771 [19:12] I sunburned my eyeballs once snow boarding....everything yellow looked forest green for two days [19:12] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] antiwire: with the clonezilla images, they're 20G, but I found out they are gzipped, so afterwards, they are about 160G :P [19:13] and I also discovered that what clonezilla uses behind the scenes is partimage [19:14] dd does a bit for bit regardless of content [19:15] yeah [19:16] hopefully this clonezilla restore will work, it's took about 2.5-3 hours now and isn't finished yet, it's at 64% done restoring. [19:16] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:16] Nick change: Guest76771 -> CmdLnKid [19:17] phoenix^, more like 3 days [19:17] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:17] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest28265 [19:17] these past 3 days have been trying different things and making different images, it hasn't taken 3 days for clonezilla to restore it's image. [19:18] clonezilla supports bz2 xz and tar as well as uncompressed [19:18] or something pre-akin to xz [19:18] ive been using it for years [19:18] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.75.71) joined ##slackware. [19:19] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:19] they even have my images on their site hehe [19:19] s/images/pics/ [19:19] I'm spoiled by lots of disk space [19:20] antiwire: I'm wishing I had a bunch of disk space right now. :P [19:20] disk space is goot !! [19:20] why does rsync delete what is on your backup before writing the new files to it? [19:20] dchmelik: that's all setable [19:20] because you have --delete on [19:20] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.75.71) left ##slackware ("Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."). [19:20] the man page shows that you can delete after/ before [19:20] i have that on, but it would be safer if it deleted them afterwards [19:20] |ast| (n=lilo78@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [19:20] --delete-after [19:20] or something [19:21] ok, they should have that example at the rsync homepage instead of just with delete [19:21] --delete-after receiver deletes after transfer, not before [19:21] you have to read the docs son [19:21] the example is right there in the man page man [19:21] s/son/man/ [19:21] ok... no big deal [19:21] you can delete before, after, during [19:21] Nick change: Guest28265 -> CmdLnKid [19:22] during? how would that work? [19:22] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest86668 [19:22] dont question the rsync devs [19:22] transfer, delete, transfer delete..instead of transfer everything then elete [19:23] delete before is delete old, transfer new, repeat [19:23] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:23] actually no [19:23] delete before will delete everything on the dest that will be updated, then trasnfer [19:23] rsync is almost too configurable [19:23] antiwire: except for files that you are already backing up, i think [19:24] I'm doing a gigantic rsync right now, 120GB [19:24] i mean it will not delete files that are not old [19:24] dchmelik: that is all configurable [19:24] #rsync [19:24] you can even set it up to delete based on md5s [19:24] Guest86668 (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left ##slackware ("echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx]sb3135071790101768542287578439snlbxq'|dc"). [19:24] ok, well i guess you could make it do that, but i think it just either leaves or overwrites files that you want to keep [19:24] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] just look at the epic rsync man page [19:25] you can pretty much make it do whatever you want [19:25] it will do anything [19:26] I use rsync's ssh ability to sync systems over the internet [19:26] too pussy to open rsync porn [19:26] port [19:26] had mine open for quite a while, no hax [19:27] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:27] ... wow jeev is still going by SarcasticIrony. [19:28] ... [19:28] Pulled a Freudian too. [19:28] yeap! everyone with a clue is the same guy [19:28] s/porn/port [19:28] trying to hack your brain meats [19:29] let me load up my other 29999993 hosts [19:30] too bad jeev is a namefag...use same alias because he want to make eFriends [19:30] namefag/samefag [19:31] fame nag [19:31] get it? [19:31] thats you [19:31] some people have inner strength and other need to be re-assured constantly [19:32] wow, does the surprise anyone? http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hgD7fmgR6M4BDoANnCi4eq6xwo9QD99UAVI81 [19:32] so they pick a name and try to climb some invisible ladder [19:32] SOOO PUUREEE!!! [19:32] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] so the rich do cocaine...wonder why drugs are illegal..oh so criminals make more money [19:33] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [19:33] Dr. Rockzo does cocaine [19:33] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] red bull drinkers do cocaine [19:34] http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iaF48xPY1S2rOTVyw6PPk8yqEFKA haha, he earned it [19:35] '... through the bubbling water / Is Makin' it pure so I got ta'...'--Cypress Hill [19:36] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] bbl [19:36] later eviljames [19:37] slackware for president [19:37] Drinking Alcohol prevents cancer caused by cigaretts... [19:38] nargon, thats smoking marijuana [19:38] mouthwash + cigarrettes increases risk of mouthcancer...so vice versa [19:39] marijuana is a anti-oxidant, anti-cancer and anti-viral iirc [19:41] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [19:41] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) left irc: "changing servers" [19:41] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) joined ##slackware. [19:41] there should be a FreeDOS called DOSlack [19:41] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) joined ##slackware. [19:41] marijuana has some medicinal value, but it is not a mirale drug, and it wont save a failing economy [19:41] zipslack? [19:42] what is that? [19:42] i read that people w/ a family history of schizophrenia have a 6% risk of developing schizophrenia, but if they smoke marijuana then they have a 60% risk [19:42] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-223-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:43] and people who do anti-deppresants are more likely to suicide, whats your point [19:43] s/then/regularly as children then/ [19:43] i seen on slashdot that tobacco/nicotene may have benefits to people with schizophrenia [19:43] hey guys i am getting error in nagios nrpe [19:44] http://bipolar.about.com/od/relateddisorders/a/schizo_pot.htm [19:44] its works gud on command line [19:44] zipslack sounds neat [19:44] Mental health don't mix with marijuana. Its probably over stated that it causes it. [19:44] i have not heard of zipslack for a while [19:44] any nagios guy here [19:44] it causes mental health [19:44] I can cause it [19:44] encourages neuron growth [19:44] as per govt studies [19:44] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [19:45] steroids encourage muscle growth [19:45] hi mancha [19:45] genius is insanity [19:45] Abuse of any kind of drug illegal or not will cause problems. [19:45] people with mental illnesses have to be very careful with what they take since they are already unstable [19:45] geoff_k, everything is a drug [19:45] nearly all chemicals modify brain chemistry [19:45] i think the study concluded that regular marijuana use is bad for growing kids because it changes how their brains develop [19:46] people with "mental illnesses" are best taking nothing and being who they are [19:46] modifying brain chemistry sounds so temporary [19:46] pi31415, i heard vaccines with themerisol are bad for developing brains [19:46] i read there is no complete/one definition of most/any mental illnesses--for ones that they have little/no complete body of evidence that the illnesses exist the way people say [19:46] watch the video of mercury and snail neurons [19:47] i just got an interview for a VoIP/commerical phone system companty [19:47] -t [19:47] People who smoke high grade skunks and the likes are far more likely to develop mental heath issues that someone being more sensible. [19:47] geoff_k, also more likely to think about shit [19:47] I do agree that stuff is dangerous [19:47] my sister told me that it is common for the dealers around here to cut meth into their marijuana, in order to make it addictive [19:47] It should be classed along side LSD imo [19:48] guns, depleted uranium, and em scalar weaponry is dangerous [19:48] scalar weaponry?! [19:48] EM scalar [19:48] oh no! don't dereference my scalar!! [19:48] become a shaman and see through the mainstream bs [19:49] find your path [19:49] a shaman / microwave oven repair tech [19:49] lol, no stay away from microwaves [19:49] definatly [19:49] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [19:49] unless you wanna be Ted Kennedy'd [19:49] yeah and wifi causes allergies...right? [19:50] Glioma roflmfao [19:50] antiwire, you dont know shit about fuck [19:50] i certainly would hope not [19:50] *cough*aspergers*cough* [19:50] ass-burgers [19:51] they say you are abmormal when their vaccines make your brain superior [19:51] *normal [19:52] no brain is superior [19:52] all process at 14hz right [19:52] daleks are superiOr [19:52] not mine, i operate at a power of 1.21jiggawatts [19:52] why do they target the pineal gland with their sodium fluoride [19:53] Welcome to ##Conspiracy [19:53] sarcasticirony: most cities are too cheap to buy sodium fluoride [19:53] have a nice stay [19:53] the daleks will be asslackulated [19:53] antiwire, right its not a conspiracy that sodium fluoride calcifies the pineal [19:53] b0tn3t (n=void@209.180.207.66) left ##slackware. [19:54] or is it [19:54] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:54] DebiEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:54] so far you've touched on aspies + vaccine, staying away from microwaves, and now the fluoride deal [19:54] so what's next? [19:54] raymondmendoza (n=raymondm@cpe-67-241-90-254.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:54] you reading [19:54] SarcasticIrony, it is if they do not want you to open your 3rd eye [19:55] dchmelik, ;) [19:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation#Implementation [19:55] sodium fluoride is more expensive [19:55] more expensive unless you are alcoa? [19:56] and if people open it they will not want to accept the conspirators' products or ideas or obey them [19:56] What does alcoe do now? Auto wheels? [19:56] I've had a flouride overdose, but it only affected my teeth. [19:56] then you make money selling industrial waste and distributing it to humans...kinda like the twin towers and asbestos [19:56] alcoa [19:57] fluoride is byproduct of aluminum manufacturing [19:57] designated toxic waste unless its FOR THE KIDS TEETH [19:58] Yes, and dentists are part of the conspiracy too! [19:58] go to your grocery store and look for the pink labeled gallon bottles of water....FOr Toddlers with added fluoride for the teeth they dont have! [19:59] t4k3r0n_ (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.163.230) joined ##slackware. [19:59] dentists/doctors are brainwashed....med school has more hazing than military school [19:59] they trust the fda, strangely [19:59] shhh! the g o v is watching and we dont want them to know we know :o [20:00] part of me wants them to and the other part wants to run [20:00] so i use mass proxies [20:00] So... countries like my own are just copying this? [20:01] Even though we don't have any industry like Alcoa? [20:01] well guardian.co.uk reported that they are going to fluoridate like 21 provinces against public will [20:01] in the uk of course [20:01] Not here, we have case law about it. [20:02] Fluoridate drinking water? [20:02] Rather, municiple water. [20:02] yes, like hitler [20:02] They do that already here in the US. [20:02] it keeps you from rebelling [20:02] At least in some areas. [20:02] One municipality did add it to the drinking water (ten years ago or something), then someone sued them and now it's not permitted. [20:02] numbs the brain [20:02] Up here, I'm on city water, but you can drive just a few miles and reach people with wells. [20:03] wells could have more fluoride depending on elevation [20:03] natural fluoride [20:03] yup, so i hope you have your tin foil hat on, or your armadilla helm :o [20:03] btw, fluoride occurs naturally in ground water of many areas [20:03] Natural brainwashing. [20:03] Great [20:03] so OMG nature is conspiring! [20:03] just realize organized crime rules the world and you and your family are constantly under attack whether you realize it or not [20:03] better kill the Earth to stop that [20:03] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [20:04] alert las vegas pd [20:04] we can't stand by while nature does all of these natural things. [20:04] antiwire, dont be a shilltroll [20:05] i made a tin foil hat about a month ago.. it didn't help out much, maybee i should keep it on longer... [20:05] we must rebel against the gov and nature !! [20:05] antiwire, it's been proven that the sun is the cause of global warming. [20:05] nature doesn't create aspartame and market it to fat asses [20:05] ok captain bodily fluids [20:05] ccfreak2k: kill the Sun too then [20:05] the plankton populations are dying [20:05] ccfreak2k, don't bring facts into this! they cant stand them [20:06] umm [20:06] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424180.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] The sun is also the cause of most sunburns as well. [20:06] wow... i think it is time this one moved away... [20:06] gore invented global warming...or was it the internet he invented, i forget [20:06] ccfreak2k: oh man, now you're just messing with us aren't you [20:06] gore invented ethanol farming which pollutes more than gasoline [20:06] cmair (n=cmair@host124-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:06] mancha, the funny thing is, he never claimed to have invented the internet; he just claimed to have helped or something. [20:07] flouride is not the same as flouride compounds [20:07] ccfreak the funny thing is that he took more than that as attribution, read the transcript [20:07] there is fluoride, sodium fluoride, and fluorisic acid which is often added to water [20:08] typo [20:08] i like these heal the world global warming concerts that everyone drives there SUV to go to... [20:08] is it worth rsyncing my entire '/etc/*' to a backup before i install a new Slackware version, or if i do that should i be upgrading instead of reinstalling? [20:08] nargon: and smokes on the way while they drink bottled water [20:08] gg [20:08] exactly.. [20:08] maybe it will be good when DER FUHRER says fat people's carbon footprint will doom us all and kill sthem [20:09] dchmelik: always backup if you question the process [20:09] actually...always backup. [20:09] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A741B5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] well i always back up some 'etc/*,' but i have to type a lot of the folders separately for rsync [20:10] if the data is important you have a backup :) [20:10] were about to finish up global peak oil production and go into decline within the next 50 years or so.. that means we'v managed to pump all that oil can carbon back into the atmosphere... microbial life is responsible for shaping the atmosphere originally... [20:10] peak oil is a myth [20:10] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [20:11] mmm OT [20:11] so are unicorns :o [20:11] and unicorns make for better topics :P [20:11] nonsense, oil is constantly being renewed from below the crust [20:11] the orbit the earth makes around the sun is not a perfict circle, sometimes the earth goes closer to the sun, sometimes the earth's orbit goes furthur away from the sun, the sun is very hot, guess what happens when the earth goes closer to the sun? [20:11] and, by using new methods of extraction, more oil can be extracted from old holes. [20:12] Pig_Pen: we make waffles !! [20:12] Pig_Pen that's a very poor way to describe an elliptical orbit [20:12] Pig_Pen, oh, I know this one [20:12] it uh [20:12] ummm [20:12] shit. [20:12] we become waffles [20:12] hi ccfreak2k !!! [20:12] I drink your milkshake. [20:12] bahh, my tinfoil hat will save me :P [20:13] Pig_Pen the nearness and farness of the eawrth from the son is a yearly occurrance [20:13] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:13] orbits is why both types of astrology are wrong [20:13] i mean 'orbits are' [20:13] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.39.139) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:13] i think your refering to the wobble in the rotation that causes seasonal changes (winter/summer) [20:14] wobble ? [20:14] no no no; wow for geeks of the 20th century i'm shocked by the utter lack of comprehension of the writing i'm reading [20:14] lol [20:14] i am referring to there is really no place they can start the measurement of a sign [20:14] eventually we may discover that the protons actually orbit around the electrons.. [20:14] there is only one type of astrology [20:14] there is astronomy [20:14] the two are unrelated [20:14] no, there are two main types of astrology: tropical and sidereal [20:14] one is based on fact; the other fiction. [20:14] that's not astrology dchmelik [20:14] if you were in a space ship above the north pole looking down, since you know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, then which direction does the earth rotate? clockwise? or counter-clockwise? [20:15] tropical and sidereal are not astrogoical terms [20:15] yes they are [20:15] no. they may have ben usurped but they are not original defined by astrology [20:15] nice.... [20:15] /bin/sh: pom: command not found [20:15] dohh [20:15] The Moon is Waning Gibbous (96% of Full) [20:16] sun rises in east .. if your looking down at the north poll then the earth is spinning counterclockwise [20:16] andarius: it's getting wrose! [20:16] OMG [20:16] lol [20:16] yup, i think so [20:16] when that thing hits 100% you'll see some serious shit [20:16] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:16] join #firefox [20:16] pink ponies and unicorns and ... [20:17] any of you guys ever tired making your own distro with the LFS book ? [20:17] lets move this conversation to #geo-polictical_physics [20:17] tried* [20:17] deco: I've built LFS [20:18] based strictly on the handbook and without intent of spawning my own fscked up distro [20:18] antiwire good quote.. [20:18] antiwire: I'm thinking of building it to learn the ins and outs of linux :-D [20:18] i'd like to make my own but i'd have to get rid of a few things first [20:18] Autopsy report says although TV pitchman Billy Mays died from heart disease, cocaine was also cause of death — but family says they want independent evaluation [20:18] lol [20:18] gnumake for one; autoconf, sendmail [20:19] replace them with better tools [20:19] anitiwire. "i'm trying to make a science fiction novel" " your nothing but an errand boy" "stand back!" [20:19] why is it anytime something negative comes out it must have been a wrong evaluation [20:19] can't people just accept the screw ups [20:19] juice like what? [20:19] will it have laser guns? [20:19] deco: LFS will teach you a lot about what happens and what goes on to build a Linux distribution from the beginning to end [20:19] replace star and gzip too with better implementations [20:19] gsan1 (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=30516 [20:20] antiwire:it's gooing to be really rewording :D [20:21] deco: and painful, all at the same time [20:21] nargon, will it have spacelien invaders? [20:22] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72641.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] how do i verify the slackware security advisories with gpg? when i try it fails. [20:22] dchmelik no we won't make it that far.. when the dynamic core of the earth reverses polarity and temporarilly shuts down the earths magnetic feild for a few thousand years the human race will not survive.. [20:23] dchmelik the magnetic field will fail soon :) nothing man can do about it either! [20:23] its already breaking down over austrailia in the south pole [20:23] nods [20:23] the shift has already begun again... [20:23] pi31415: how about the end of the world in 2025: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17569-consumerism-is-eating-the-future.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news [20:24] we need it for out health. [20:24] but there is still the prob of depleted soil; no nutrients thus food is valueless [20:25] without redeeming value [20:26] we can't go to jupiter because the gravitational feild is to strong.. unless we modify our dna and convert our species, but by that time there will probably be more intergalactic options and intergalactic travel/communication will be commonplace. if we make it that far [20:26] Jackie Chan fighting the american indians; very funi [20:26] _Shanghai Noon_ [20:27] he moves so well [20:27] nargon, peak oil is a lie [20:27] i think i should go back to my room and watch that movie now... [20:27] yea; move the tv too [20:27] SarcasticIrony yeah if your an arab... [20:27] I hope the space rock comes before we have the opportunity to go wreck some other planet [20:27] gull island, prudo bay [20:27] heh [20:27] lindsey williams [20:28] SarcasticIrony explain why texas is in decline... they peaked and declined.. is that a lie ? [20:28] whodat? [20:28] I think they wen into decline before the 90's.. [20:28] they tried it in the 70s [20:28] there is more than enuf oil in the ground [20:28] ok that video was lame [20:28] they regularly try to blow up pipelines to raise market price [20:28] the picture is better [20:28] http://miami.media.indypgh.org/uploads/2008/06/netneutrality.jpg [20:28] new techneques of extraction may prolong peak production but decline is inevitable within the next 100 years [20:28] they also tried global cooling...look at time magazine covers [20:29] it's cold down in florida right now [20:29] i'm cold [20:29] brrr [20:29] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-147-63.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Saindo" [20:29] heh [20:29] I'm in a NOC with 4 big ass AC's its cold here to ... [20:29] wear a parka [20:29] nargon, there are reserves for the next 300+ years...but we should move towards electromagnetic / advanced electrolysis means of propulsion if only to free ourselves [20:29] what noc? where? CONFESS! [20:30] yeah a parka and a tinfoil hat.. [20:30] no no no, a beanie with propellor, your nocerite! [20:30] lol [20:30] pi31415, not quite professionally done, and all the JPEG artifacts don't help. [20:31] SarcasticIrony i will give you that... yes .. to bad tesla was outsted by westinghouse when he proposed free energy in the 20th century [20:31] DarkStar (n=DarkStar@82.201.235.64) joined ##slackware. [20:31] nargon I think TeSla's stuff can be done individually instead of commercially [20:31] there are modern day tesla's but they all get killed [20:31] http://tinyurl.com/nwkaau [20:31] stanley meyer for one [20:31] not all. Beardon's around [20:31] Quiznos i plan on spending most of my days doing that at home after i finish my job in a couple years [20:31] i want a gold hat instead of a tinfoil one... if they hit the gold one with a high-energy ray it will just evaporate... but if they hit the tinfoil one it will go through and hit my head [20:31] nods and do what nargon? [20:32] look up the patents on water fracturing spark plugs [20:32] neawt [20:32] dchmelik try a lead hat its cheaper [20:32] neat [20:32] Quiznos and sell energy back to the grid from my windmill? [20:33] no no no; give to neighbors [20:33] help them [20:33] to get off the grid [20:33] smart grid will consolidate power control [20:33] laser plugs [20:33] windmill wont produce enough, if any energy [20:33] movg (n=movg@e179145060.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:33] a titaniam hat [20:33] Quiznos i'd like to live in a large private community where people were helping eachother [20:33] that's called a commune; kool [20:33] its called a commune [20:34] nothing wrong as long as you do it correctly [20:34] you will be labeled terrorists [20:34] not a commune i can't condune the term commune [20:34] yea [20:34] get waco'd [20:34] condone* [20:34] i heard someone talk about a commune where they did not allow toilet paper [20:34] f that [20:34] just water from a bucket [20:34] if you live on a commune are you a communist :P [20:34] OH! did ya hear; there's holy paper in cuba!!! [20:34] heard that today [20:35] TP [20:35] wholey paper is not good for wiping your ass [20:35] not wholey. holy [20:35] holey [20:35] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [20:35] IF YOU USE THE CAPSLOCK FUNCTION ARE YOU A CAPITALIST? [20:35] gsan1 (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [20:35] YES!!! [20:35] hehe [20:35] capitalism doesnt exist with fait paper [20:35] *fiat [20:36] sure it does; any substance will work; fiat paper is worthless. [20:36] capitalism existed since Man. not since america [20:36] gold and silver are honest money. [20:36] and that was a rallying cry during the 1800s [20:36] party platform too [20:36] after living in the east for several years i prefer the whole water on your ass thing ass thing as opposed to toilet paper [20:37] how's that? [20:37] actually in conjunction with TP [20:37] on? [20:37] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:37] you mean bidet? [20:37] thats borderline TMI i know.. yeah bidet [20:37] ah ok [20:37] no, read marx, capitalism is primitive acculumlation [20:37] people start selling themselves because they dont own the means of production [20:38] SarcasticIrony but it's part of fundmental liberty to exchange what you have for something else [20:38] thats barter [20:38] constitutionlized slavery ? [20:38] capitalism is not evil; one can always exchange what someont else has [20:38] the Fed is trying to make barter illegal now [20:38] money (gold and silver) is exchangeable too [20:38] they haven't found a way to tax barters [20:38] or is ti the IRS...some criminal enterprise [20:38] doesnt matter; both. [20:38] just done tell them. [20:39] stop being a snitch against your fellow american [20:39] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:39] which reminds me, that's what that man is doing now; making snitches important [20:39] www.scroogle.org/gifs/android5.jpg [20:39] brb [20:39] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-21.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:39] barter illegal? whats next? are garage/yard sales going to be make illegal too? [20:39] haha [20:40] thats a good one [20:40] obama wants you to snitch on people against his Eugenics deathcare bill [20:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [20:40] hitler t4 useless eaters program [20:40] obama is the weirdest president ever, i can tolerate socializm but he is just getting too far out in left field [20:41] its a brave new world [20:41] disorder [20:41] the only thing i can do as an individual is try to ignore it all so i can at least have peace of mind and live a decent life... [20:42] making barter illegal is unenforcable, the gov can not watch everybody and eventually even the people that support him will turn against him for getting too weird [20:42] nargon, so you think until the UN/WHO has its binding agreement with all charter states to innoculate you [20:42] with squalene and themerisol [20:42] i think ghandi had a net negative affect on india/pakistan... [20:42] rworkman: new flash version [20:43] SarcasticIrony i didn't say anything... just that i can't do anything as an individual irrespective of my political standpoint [20:43] nargon, you can spread dissent [20:43] through informed discussion [20:43] hehe [20:43] rworkman: seems like the upstream packaging changed too [20:43] yeah.. [20:43] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p54A74EE7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] but most people are so brainwashed that they have stockholme syndrome [20:44] or be like a certain redmond company and spread (dis)information [20:44] yeah the problem is the crictical mass of society has an IQ of about 90 [20:44] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:44] nargon, and lower as they consume HFCS with mercury [20:44] antiwire: i also got a folder missing when i tried to install it but i just deleted cd command from the slackbuild script [20:44] and fluoride, they just dont care...materialistic whores [20:44] deco: yes sir [20:45] i have no fight with floride... [20:45] SarcasticIrony: isn't that discussion for ##slackofftopic? [20:45] nargon that's faithless, that you cant do anything. [20:45] alisonken1home, i didnt start it [20:46] billy joel [20:46] but you're contributing to it here [20:46] this conversation pertains directly to slackware alisonken1home [20:46] slackware is the cure for all ills. [20:46] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:46] DarkStar (n=DarkStar@82.201.235.64) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:46] indeed [20:46] anytime you see "myths vs facts" yes its disinfo...microsoft and governments use that brainwash [20:46] fail at whitt... [20:46] this surely should move to ##slackofftopic [20:47] there is no one in #slackofftopic [20:47] they're all here [20:47] /dev/null is also a good place for it [20:47] I see a bunch of people at ##slackofftopic [20:47] yeah whats the point of moving.. your the one who sucks [20:47] ##slackofftopic is the same cloobs as here [20:47] being there is not the same as BeingThere [20:47] then go there and you wont lose anyone [20:48] besides people who use slackware don't have anything important to do anyhow... [20:48] dchmelik: There's 14 people in there and you're not one of them. it's ##slackofftopic :) [20:48] huh? [20:48] yeah slackware makes free time [20:48] antiwire: congrats - you're #5 today. http://lists.slackbuilds.org/pipermail/slackbuilds-users/2009-August/004321.html [20:48] not fixing apt every 10 minutes [20:48] oh damn it [20:48] is slapt-get anygood? [20:48] rworkman: I'm happily using kde 4.3 now :D [20:49] how much space will one need for 13.0? [20:49] Quiznos: unsupported here [20:49] phoenix^: cool :) [20:49] that's not what i asked alisonken1home [20:49] is it any good? does it do what it supposed to do? [20:49] rworkman: After you gave me those few hints, all went well except an icon issue which I'm sure was something I did wrong somewhere. :P [20:49] don't know, since it's unsupported [20:49] alisonken1home if you dont know then say so [20:50] and when you install src from the ISO does it go in /usr/local/src or something or can you put it in ~? [20:50] slackpkg works [20:50] dchmelik anywhere [20:50] dchmelik: open the txz file and see where it stuffs it - good possibility would be /usr/src [20:50] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.15.55) joined ##slackware. [20:50] dchmelik my install habit is to install to / the whole dist; and all like pkgs; then what I make goes to usr/local [20:51] i see in the archives source is not in a txz... so i will just measure the ISOs [20:51] (i am re-partitioning) [20:51] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:51] Nick change: SQlvpapir_ -> SQlvpapir [20:51] whell thanks for re-afirming my world view slackware people.. i'm out [20:52] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [20:52] anyone knows the flag to hide the channels im in from other users whois ?= [20:52] +i ? [20:52] irc howto, client manpage [20:52] DeeeeP : _you_ can't. channel ops of those channels can [20:52] the DVD has src, right? [20:52] i know a user that i cant see what channel he's in [20:52] umode +iECl [20:52] I think he means it's a channel setting instead of a user setting. [20:53] dchmelik: yes [20:53] ananke did you readfrom Legendre? [20:53] Quiznos : huh? [20:53] thanks, so i need about 4 Gb [20:53] ananke Legendre as here this morn asking about you and others [20:53] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.133.249) joined ##slackware. [20:53] DeeeeP, its invisible mode +i [20:53] setting modes iE on yourself will hide the cannels [20:53] channels* [20:53] s/as/was [20:53] SarcasticIrony, on ill try to applyu [20:53] DeeeeP: whois me [20:54] Quiznos : i don't remember that person. in fact, i don't pay much attention to other folks [20:54] i use +iECl [20:54] i see you on slackware , antiwire [20:54] ananke he said ca. 1998 [20:54] DeeeeP: because you are in ##slackware with me [20:54] ok wait [20:54] you can see it if you are there [20:54] DeeeeP: I'm also in ##security [20:54] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:54] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] ... [20:54] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-149-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:54] yeah antiwire [20:55] /mode nick +i ? [20:55] raymondmendoza (n=raymondm@cpe-67-241-90-254.twcny.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [20:55] umode? [20:55] Quiznos : even more reason for me not to remember [20:55] ok thanks [20:55] ananke ok, your lose I spose; he did write well of you [20:55] dchmelik: clean install without kdei: /dev/root 6.0G 4.9G 1.1G 82% / [20:56] dchmelik dont forget to leave room for more pkgs in / for later on [20:57] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:57] and for logs in /var and for temp stuff in /tmp [20:57] dchmelik has gone insane with freedom power [20:57] /var and /tmp and /home and /usr and /usr/loca should be on separate parts [20:57] SarcasticIrony lol [20:58] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A741B5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:58] Nothing stipulates that you should split it all up [20:58] troo [20:58] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] i had it all on / until i had to move and symlink /home/ [20:58] cuz im lazy [20:58] but doing so limits lossage on particular part [20:59] does /dev/shm support XIP [20:59] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A76935.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] duno [20:59] err is XIP only a rom thing [20:59] /usr/local on a separate partition is retarded [21:00] except if its used extensively as I do [21:00] even /usr is overkill [21:00] /opt is too [21:00] I try to limit my partitioning to /, swap, /home, /shared - with home on a separate disk [21:00] oh no, i will have to resize my '/,' i forgot about the decompression [21:01] lol; welcome to the clud dchmelik [21:01] welcome to YOUR WORLD [21:01] club [21:01] fiyawerx (n=Fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] someone here told me not to put '/usr' on a separate partition like i have been doing [21:01] how much space do you think you would need in '/usr?' [21:01] what about /home ? [21:01] dchmelik be free or be slave [21:01] deco: home is good for a second partition/disk [21:01] dchmelik / and usr should be together unless compeling reason to separate [21:01] clearly ~ should be separate [21:01] dchmelik: ok, best question; do you have any idea what benefit having /usr own its own partition would bring ? [21:02] alisonken1home: thanks [21:02] thrice`: my fstab is longer than yours! [21:02] about what is the compression ratio of txz? [21:02] dchmelik as I said; the reason to keep / and usr together is bc distro files go there. [21:02] antiwire: Well, that image restore is done, not sure if it's success or failure yet. [21:02] dchmelik: pat made a note in the changelog when pkgtool was switched [21:02] :D [21:02] dchmelik, 0% for a jpg/divx/etc [21:02] thrice`: i do not know... i just thought if you install a lot of extra packages like sbopkg then it takes a lot of space [21:03] too bad bsd uses /usr/home :-( [21:03] or something like that [21:03] dchmelik: ok, if you don't (I don't either), just keep /usr on your / partition [21:03] deco, it does not matter, you can mount that too [21:03] /var is a good candidate i'd think [21:03] deco: you can still symlink /usr/home to a different partition/drive [21:03] dchmelik: yay thanks [21:03] or mount [21:03] alisonken1home: oh nice [21:04] alisonken1home: been thinking of dualbooting slackware and free/open bsd [21:04] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] one of the other guys here has a bsd setup - you may want to try and find them to chat [21:04] cool, thanks [21:05] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:05] when I was multi booting, i had one big "home" partition I would use for all the distros, with subfolders and mount/binds, was pretty fun to get up and running [21:06] thank god for virtual machines [21:06] i do not see anything in the changelog about the compression ratio... but how much do you need for 13rc2 and a lot of software? [21:06] morning all [21:06] greetings dive, how are you? [21:06] dchmelik, 6+ gigs [21:06] dchmelik: I just showed you what a clean, full install, minus kdei looks like. [21:06] not so cad thanks, youself? [21:06] s/cad/bad [21:07] antiwire, and SarcasticIrony, it sounded about the same... i thought you said minus kde [21:07] dive: doing great, thanks. It looks like clonezilla restore in vbox fails as well. :P [21:07] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.52.79) joined ##slackware. [21:07] hmm [21:07] i will only install one kdei thing [21:07] dchmelik, no kdei [21:07] look back [21:07] i said minus kdei [21:08] i do not think one kdei package takes a lot of space [21:08] Before: kernel-source-2.6.29.2_smp-noarch-1.tgz (73808508 bytes) [21:08] After: kernel-source-2.6.29.2_smp-noarch-1.txz (49150104 bytes) [21:08] The size of the main package tree in /slackware has been reduced from [21:08] Channel flood from alisonken1home -- kicking [21:08] 1.9GB to 1.4GB by converting most packages to .txz. [21:08] [21:08] alisonken1home kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:08] haha i did du / -x|sort -g....my /tmp is biggest followed by /usr and /var [21:08] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] got movies in /tmp [21:09] dang - thought that was under the limit [21:09] lloking at the compressed packages to determine space required is silly [21:09] /usr/src is biggest after /var [21:09] that is a big kernel [21:09] 3 kernels [21:10] 1.6g in /usr/src [21:10] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p54A74EE7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:11] crazy..1.6g in /var too [21:11] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] dchmelik: did you see the post about the size difference for the kernel? [21:11] www is biggest with logthen lib [21:11] phoenix^ (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Here I go!" 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It just sits there at a black screen with a grey progress bar at the bottom, it's sat there at least a half hour now. :/ [21:26] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.2.111) joined ##slackware. [21:32] fire|bird: still having issues with your imagining? [21:32] LF4: yup [21:32] s/this image restore is/i am a/ [21:33] lol SarcasticIrony [21:33] fire|bird: so you created the imagine and now you can restore it? [21:33] LnxSlck: I think so. Show me your 10-keymap.fdi [21:33] =] [21:33] LF4: already restored it, it doesn't work. [21:33] rworkman, i solved the problem =) [21:34] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] rworkman, i removed the nodeadkeys as suggested.. thanks a lot [21:34] LnxSlck: ah, cool. Specifying a different "variant" in the keymap.fdi? [21:34] rworkman, now i have á è [21:34] :D [21:34] omg hax [21:34] rworkman, setxkbmap -layout "pt" -variant "basic" [21:34] rworkman, that did the trick [21:34] fire|bird: Oh so why not just tar the multifiles that clonezilla makes? lol I know its an extra step but that would give you one file to save and yet still be able to image. [21:34] LnxSlck: okay, and you know how to make that permanent, right? [21:35] LF4: I got clonezilla working in VBox and that's what just got done restoring. :) [21:36] rworkman, nope.. lol [21:36] fail + :) = learning [21:36] rworkman, i thought that made it permanent [21:36] LnxSlck: see /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi [21:36] fire|bird: nice :) [21:36] LnxSlck: do NOT edit that file. Copy it to /etc/hal/fdi/policy and edit the copy. [21:36] not nice when it didn't work. :P\ [21:37] fire|bird: looks like im going to be doing the same thing as you... my esata drive just came today :D [21:37] cool [21:37] whats esata [21:37] rworkman, i have that file copied. but what line should i add? [21:37] SarcasticIrony: external sata [21:37] external sata [21:37] electronic sata :o [21:37] andarius: lol instead of?? [21:37] LnxSlck: if you're on a recent -current installation, instructions should be in the file itself. [21:37] hmm i just got a laptop sata hdd and external usb2-> sata enclosure for 5 bucks [21:37] alisonken1home: i saw the post about the kernel size difference [21:37] is that esata [21:37] no [21:38] thats usb [21:38] FAIL [21:38] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [21:38] rworkman, and don't see anything on adding keyboard symbols [21:38] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [21:38] rworkman, or deadkeys [21:38] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:38] dchmelik: then you have an idea of your earlier question [21:38] esata plugs in how? sata coming out of your mobo? [21:38] LF4: yes, i was kidding [21:38] its a special connector [21:38] on laptops..its on the side [21:39] muy intersante [21:39] on desktops, it can be on the motherboard plate area or a special cable [21:39] LnxSlck: are you on recent -current? [21:39] rworkman, yeap [21:39] andarius: awe :( I thought you used butterflies to alter the wind which effects the suns rays and thats how you burn your data. [21:39] the cable fits in a expansion slot on the case and plugs in to a normal sata port on the motherboard [21:39] rworkman, except for today and RC2 updates [21:39] rhys (n=rhys@4.253.116.231) joined ##slackware. [21:39] also, esata doesnt provide power [21:39] Is sata hotswappable? lol [21:40] yes [21:40] where do i go to check out what flags all slackware components were compiled with? [21:40] whoohoo! Rhys is back online! [21:40] LF4: negative, i encourae the spirits to encode my data to spirit sticks [21:40] at a blasing 28k. [21:40] straterra, make money by converting the cable to a proprietary format! brilliant! [21:40] andarius: much better [21:40] its not proprietary [21:40] keep that eternal upgrade mentality going [21:40] SarcasticIrony: its a normal sata cable [21:40] rworkman, i think this should do the trick: basic [21:40] snorks: the source slackbuild is one way [21:40] LnxSlck: then that 10-keymap.fdi should have four example lines in it [21:40] special connector = sata cable? [21:40] yes [21:40] lf4 esata cables are different [21:41] rworkman, =) [21:41] ^ @ LnxSlck [21:41] rworkman, thanks [21:41] straterra, different but the same eh [21:41] same pinout [21:41] straterra: you mean the outside cable or internal one? [21:41] LnxSlck: make sure you have the correct layout (pt) too :) [21:41] andarius: could you tell me a little more about that? [21:41] bastards [21:41] sata is hot swapable, but the chipset has to support it [21:41] its just a different port..usually a bit stronger [21:42] i just found my 4 mobo sata ports [21:42] thanks rhys [21:42] my 3ware is filled up [21:42] snorks: no, you can go read them and see what they were compiled with [21:42] well I need to shutdown for this part... :) bbl [21:42] lf4, esata... [21:42] rworkman, yeap.. thanks a lot [21:42] andarius: i mean where can i find this which you are talking about? i am not afraid of reading :) [21:42] someone google image esata kthx [21:42] snorks: any slackware mirror [21:43] you google it [21:43] i hate google [21:43] andarius: thanks :) [21:43] LF4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "breaking stuff" [21:43] i know whatbit looks like [21:43] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) joined ##slackware. [21:43] you are not someone, you are nobody ooh sick burn [21:44] snorks: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/ [21:44] and yw [21:44] thanks [21:44] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) left irc: Client Quit [21:44] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-21.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:44] i forgot my smiley [21:44] bruc3 (n=radmin@201.59.24.206) joined ##slackware. [21:44] =] XD >:) heres a few [21:45] onde upo testo pra manda o link? [21:45] bruc3, ##slackware-es [21:45] waffle !! [21:45] andarius, ##slackofftopic [21:45] bruc3 (n=radmin@201.59.24.206) left irc: Client Quit [21:46] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "test34" [21:46] yup, you should go there [21:46] bant [21:46] and /part ##slackware [21:46] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:47] andarius, lighten up doo [21:48] Action: andarius slaps SarcasticIrony with a waffle iron... :o [21:48] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:48] only one way to cook a waffle [21:48] andarius: reading the slackbuild for kernel-huge-smp doesn't show any compile flags. is the slackbuild just a way to install the already compiled binary? [21:48] marla (n=marla@179.sub-70-221-106.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [21:49] snorks: yes and no. the kernel does not use any build flags... [21:49] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [21:50] marla (n=marla@179.sub-70-221-106.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:50] -O99 --fomit-frame-pointer --funroll-loops --omg-xtremeg32xrice [21:51] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:51] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:52] root (n=root@179.sub-70-221-106.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [21:52] Nick change: root -> Guest41547 [21:53] wtf [21:53] you didn't identify in time. :) [21:53] i wonder why there isn't media attention on http://www.savestevesplace.com/ [21:54] Nick change: Guest41547 -> rotoroot [21:54] andarius: im basically checking if i could use slackware to debug some application and develop exploits. its for learning purposes so i would like an operating system with as few exploit protection mechanisms in place as possible [21:54] jeev, i woner why there isn't media attention to http://www.savethemales.ca/ [21:55] Nexxus (n=root@208.69.211.196) joined ##slackware. [21:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:55] memory protection and stuff [21:55] just use rhes, you want your exploits to hit big corps [21:55] lol SarcasticIrony [21:55] hehe [21:55] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:56] can someone tell me why they like to use slackware [21:56] http://www.savethemales.ca/000166.html [21:56] Nexxus, cuz it doesnt make you jump through hoops and its vanilla [21:56] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] does what you say. [21:56] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] Nick change: quasar -> Guest32630 [21:57] Guest32630 (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Killed by ballard.freenode.net (Nick collision) [21:57] rhys_ (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.119.155.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] _quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] SarcasticIrony: how do you get packages on slackware? [21:58] any way i fucking want, eh, thats the point [21:58] mostly ./configure [21:58] well thats good [21:58] Nick change: _quasar -> quasar [21:58] sometimes slackbuild, mostly for distro delivered slackbuilds, sometimes linuxpackages.net, sometimes .run files, w/e [21:58] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:58] Nexxus: slackbuilds.org has a few. there is also an explained procedure for making and installing them [21:58] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Client Quit [21:59] is slackware based off of debian or some other distro? [21:59] its based off of ubuntdora [21:59] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:59] look up the linux timeline...its the longest surviving...based off sls [21:59] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] dang [21:59] not derivative of anything but unix [22:00] which is linux i guess [22:00] Nexxus: im just kidding its based upon blood and sweat of one man and his knife [22:00] wow, it's just amazing watching these guys kill whales, drag them up and slice them up to sell [22:00] i cant believe people do that shit [22:00] then again, i eat sliced up cow [22:00] mmmm swine [22:00] snorks: lol i was like : ubuntu [22:00] :( [22:00] jeev: are you talking about that documentary? [22:00] jeev, mmmm malformed prions [22:00] posilac and rbst! [22:00] i dunno if you can call it a documentary but ok yea [22:00] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Client Quit [22:00] it's crazy man, harpoon straight to a whale, pull it up, guts floating and they say it's for research [22:01] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [22:01] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) joined ##slackware. [22:01] "iz ok, iz 4 resurtch" [22:01] jeev, where you when humans were massacring austrolopithicus et al [22:01] cant let the whales take over, can we [22:02] lol SarcasticIrony, you're funny [22:02] i dunno man [22:02] whales...... [22:02] jeev, did you watch "The Core" [22:02] yea i think so [22:02] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Client Quit [22:03] has whales...no narwhals, but it describes HAARP but calls it DESTINY.. located in alaska lol [22:03] same technology as haarp but doomed the earth's core...eh thats hollywood [22:03] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:04] keel the whales. they are intelligent [22:04] dngr (n=dngr@n112118131237.netvigator.com) left irc: "disconnecting from stoned server." [22:04] one more thing for us to have to fight with.. [22:04] intelligence is living in harmony id venture [22:06] its obvious that the collective human conciousness is insane or has been usurped by psychopaths [22:06] pfft. Wait till we have landsharks. Intelligence is killing them while we have a chance. [22:06] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] Nexxus (n=root@208.69.211.196) left ##slackware. [22:06] i wonder how much it costs the Steve Irwin boat to operate [22:06] like operating costs [22:07] +30000 [22:07] There is no collective human consciousness. Its a billion people all trying to kill off everyone else to make a quick dollar before they die. [22:07] maybe i can fund it but they'd have to wear big suits with jeev written all over them [22:07] yup rhys [22:07] rhys_, there is if you realize we are all one organism [22:07] dngr (n=dngr@112.118.131.237) joined ##slackware. [22:07] too bad "The ORDER" has divide and conquer on its mind [22:08] wow lol in the ubuntu channel they say removing the add-on that they added to their firefox as off-topic [22:08] kitche, let me guess................... [22:08] kitche, why are you in the ubunti channel [22:09] SarcasticIrony, Oh you mean like we are going to change the planet significantly enough to kill ourselves off? yea...true. sucks. [22:09] why am I in this channel? :P [22:09] cause slackware rules [22:09] jeev: just like to hang out in certain channels mainly [22:09] rhys_, not exactly, the earth will take care of itself...it will kill us if need be, however we could be exploring the stars [22:10] the technology exists........ [22:11] SarcasticIrony, theres nothing in the stars though. Just...like a giant galactic desert. [22:12] there are islands obviously [22:12] im sure the way would be shown to those worthy [22:12] kitche, why?? all that addon does is...? .deb files ? [22:13] what is the ubuntu firefox addon [22:13] some multi search thing just makes firefox use the ubuntu themed google search or soemthing like that and makes money for ubuntu [22:14] HAHAHA predicted but didnt want tos ay it [22:14] obviously? No there isn't? there isn't anything to suggest that there is anything in the rest of space than nothingness and scary places and a billion ways to kill us. [22:14] ubuntu has usurped the linux/oss/gnu movement [22:14] game set match [22:15] rhys_, you exist.... [22:15] rhys_, go look at crop circles for a few hours and try to say something...notice the fibonnaci / phi / interference pattern / pi theme [22:15] how is that? because their unofficial IRC channel added something small stupid that can be googled a thousand times over to offtopic? [22:16] Alright slashdot, calm down. [22:16] ubuntu in bed with google....sad sad [22:16] Action: andarius makes a crop circle in his yard :o [22:17] andarius, seriously though, mathematical geniuses aren't stepping on boards in a field [22:17] Ohhhh. Right. And Aliens would fly millions of light years to draw in our corn. Phi? its an approximation. its a pretty number. That doesn't prove God, nor Aliens, nor crop circles. [22:17] Action: andarius makes his with real alien space ships [22:17] how is ubuntu being in with google sad? [22:17] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] SarcasticIrony, actually its an artistic movement. [22:18] andarius, don't get me started [22:18] what? no, you can not fly my space ship [22:18] black ops technology is sci-fi for you guys [22:18] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:18] i mean they release some like the pain rays and microwaev guns [22:18] and HAARP [22:18] but not the TR-3B [22:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:20] Action: andarius has smart pebbles... [22:20] harp that one :P [22:20] which is? haven't read up on my conspiracy theories lately [22:20] smart pebbles are an actual DoD research project [22:20] rhys (n=rhys@4.253.116.231) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:21] but... [22:21] Action: andarius flings smart pebbles at SarcasticIrony [22:21] Haarp looks like something someone like me would put up. "I wonder how many conspiracy theories I can make about this listening post in Alaska" [22:21] i thought you said DnD research project [22:21] and TR-3B... :( I have 3 KB/s. I can't google that much at the same time. [22:22] http://www.darkgovernment.com/tr3b.html [22:22] sillyness [22:23] hmm walmart here I notice is selling a blu ray dvd drive for $119 US dollars [22:23] _ohm (n=research@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:23] nice [22:24] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) joined ##slackware. [22:24] f*** bluray [22:25] all righty then [22:25] SarcasticIrony, I'm being an ass, and I'm a bit sorry for it, but its one thing to claim the government is working on massive scary projects to blow things up, and another to claim aliens are making circles in farmers fields. [22:25] it probably has DRM [22:25] Action: kitche does not care about DRM but then again I m not a RMS nut [22:25] nor I [22:26] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:26] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:26] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [22:26] re [22:26] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) joined ##slackware. [22:26] rf [22:26] rhys_, well when you see a silent triangular craft above your house (or on the NEWS) know its human tech (RE of course) [22:26] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) left irc: Client Quit [22:26] hi [22:26] I just would like a bit o' evidence first. I've seen the crop circle crap. Doesn't add up. Not when I try to live by "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence." [22:26] ello [22:27] movg (n=movg@e179145060.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:27] rhys_: !!! LTNS [22:27] rhys_: Quiznos here [22:27] Ahoy. [22:27] how ya bin? [22:27] My how blue you've gotten [22:27] rhys_, just look at them and try to find a rational explanation besides mathematical genius cult making circles at night in hours with flying orbs [22:27] heh [22:28] rhys_: is you contemplate the spiritual realm, there is a answer to those circles. [22:28] s/is/if/ [22:28] .... Bored hippy artists with boards and rope, pranksters + people with some numbers who see what they want to believe. [22:28] Fitswell (n=Fitswell@c-98-207-245-2.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] rhys_, motive? [22:28] most unexplainable events have a spiritual connectin. [22:28] Have you never seen a bunch of bored artists, drunk college kids with a calculus class, or both ? [22:29] how do they make the em anomalies and the enlarged nodules [22:29] enlarge nodules? [22:29] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.15.55) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:29] on the cereal crop stalks [22:30] Regarding crop circles: A very interesting phenomena that has yet to be thoroughly explained. I would like to buy the extra-terrestrial angle. But, until I have irrefutable proof I call bullshit. [22:30] SarcasticIrony, wheat and corn get big in some places due to slight increases in soil composition. I live on a far, it happens. Often in circles. (Grubs for example) They don't match up exactly, but people see what they want. [22:30] ok occams razor says it must be bored hippies [22:30] genius hippies [22:30] FAST hippies [22:31] I'm not going to suspend the laws of probability, distance, time, energy, and physics ffs to claim aliens are writing random circles that mean basically nothing to us, after flying from another galaxy over millions of light years. [22:31] not contradictory at all! [22:31] hitest: i duno why people refuse (what i call) obvious, but for unexplainable crop circles, the matter is according to what demons do; angels dont make them, demons do because they are currently the masters of this planet. that is all [22:31] they mean more than you know, just look for the pattern [22:31] If they are going to write something, why don't they use their "advanced" technology to learn some fucking english and write it out. "YO ALIENS WERE HERE." [22:31] crop circles are obvious hoaxes [22:31] no they aint; not all of them [22:32] yes, every fucking one of them [22:32] no fucking way. and why would hoaxers go unnamed forever [22:32] but I dont subscribe to the "extra-terrestrial" supposal [22:32] you can tell the hoax ones easy [22:32] So.. We have Aliens, Demons, but not Angels. [22:32] you dont even know if humans are extra terrestrials or jesus [22:32] any other reality bending bullshit you want to roll out here? [22:32] angels wont behave contrary to God's will. [22:32] you think we know how we emerged here with conciousness? [22:32] opps. there it goes [22:32] wtf is this a noise chan [22:32] GOD [22:33] SarcasticIrony: we arent'; on other planets; not machines but us. [22:33] freak out [22:33] ok. I give. this is hilarious [22:33] rotoroot: not yet [22:33] huh [22:33] nope, as an atheist i have to say there is no god, no devil, no angels or demons, no ETs, if science can not show evidence of it then it is just a myth [22:33] you dont know if we are the remnants of another civilization [22:33] "i didnt start this fire" [22:33] God vs. the Aliens! who will win?! We'll see in the next episode of unskeptical bullshit! [22:33] RipVanWinkle: so to you it would all be unexplanable? [22:34] lots of times myths are ignorant humans trying to explain what they see [22:34] proof? [22:34] Action: andarius poors gas on everyone... [22:34] lots of ancient scripture describe ET's as GOD [22:34] lol [22:34] SarcasticIrony: no they dont [22:34] I see beer in my glass [22:34] haha [22:34] crop circles? some hoaxer made them, ALL of them [22:34] "chariot of the gods" author was wrong. [22:34] I see beer in his brain [22:34] I suggest we all go take a good dose of skepticism, go read http://centerforinquiry.net (i think) for a while [22:34] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:34] ther are no aliens from other planets [22:34] Action: andarius wants a glass like twolf's [22:34] kurt konggegut? [22:34] dogon dribe, indian sandscrit, bible, sumerians, mayans [22:35] so what [22:35] all right x-files generation... have a beer and talk linux [22:35] kurt something, _chariot of the gods_ [22:35] i dont belive there are aliens but i will say Chariots of the Gods is more plausible than the gods of religion, [22:35] slackware has the answer but we have to look for it [22:35] there, linux talk! [22:35] PurpleSmurf, everyone is wrong, you write a book [22:35] nah [22:35] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] anyone know why my mouse not works [22:36] word@ andarius [22:36] in X [22:36] the answer is obvious to me, but not everyone agrees [22:36] rotoroot: more info [22:36] rotoroot: read x.log in /var [22:36] rotoroot, set mouse device to /dev/mice [22:36] info: No such file or directory [22:36] dev/input/mice [22:36] oh right [22:36] ;-) [22:36] :> [22:36] XD [22:36] Action: PurpleSmurf pokes rworkman's tongue back in his tong [22:36] someone get ops. THIS IS THE CHANNEL OF THE SUB-GENIUS. WE NOT-PRAY TO BOB DOBBS, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND. [22:36] the rest of you get out. [22:37] heh [22:37] i'll just pray [22:37] Nick change: SarcasticIrony -> SirBobDobbs [22:37] bob! [22:37] bow down before the one you serve [22:37] is an extra terrestrial considered one if it's come to earth ? [22:37] Noisy imposter. [22:37] Action: andarius smacks SirBobDobbs with a beer and hands one to everyone else [22:37] jeev: no, just not from this planet [22:37] jeev, everything is extra terrestrial [22:37] i know everything is but [22:37] demons are unwanted invaders dispatched to here [22:37] Hold the terrestrial on mine. [22:37] are we talking about people not believing that they've come or they're non existant [22:38] You don't pray to Bob. all understanding is recieved merely looking at the face of Bob. [22:38] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [22:38] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:38] bob needs a hash pipe [22:38] jeev: two kinds of people; believers and non-* [22:38] there are alien's, they've just not come here [22:38] oops chased away the nix [22:38] Slackers understand because they are the sub-genii. [22:38] This is worse than an argument over what color to paint the bikeshed. [22:38] if alien's had oil, they would've been the 9/11 conspirators! [22:38] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] I receive understanding after several pints [22:38] jeev, fuck if you know [22:38] bobdobbs, i know all [22:39] rworkman: you have a bike shed :o [22:39] for example, rworkman is wearing a 350lb woman's thong [22:39] you have a lot to learn padwan [22:39] i say blue ! [22:39] lol [22:39] jeev: wrong webcam. [22:39] the more your learn the less you know [22:39] ahh that's right, that's antiwire's mom [22:39] you will see [22:39] bob yea! [22:39] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:39] sheesh [22:40] i loved a mom once...jeev's [22:40] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Client Quit [22:40] hitest: enlightenment through beer consumption ? [22:40] jeev: see, that's why you two can't get along. This ain't middle school. [22:40] ahahha. PurpleSmurf I don't appreciate you belittling my religion so much [22:40] SirBobDobbs: and you seem like a Chiluahua. [22:40] andarius: yep. or several glasses of wine [22:40] hitest: wonderful idea :) [22:40] mod_speling was not loaded. [22:40] rworkman, im a sub-genius [22:40] thank you [22:40] lol [22:40] rhys_: we are faithers of polar opposites; tuff and deal with it. [22:40] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:40] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left ##slackware. [22:41] SirBobDobbs: okay. The "yips a lot and gets on everyone's nerves" dog comment still stands. [22:41] faithers truthers birthers astro turfers! [22:41] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Client Quit [22:41] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] heh [22:41] rworkman ;)) [22:41] lol bobdobbs [22:41] rworkman, im abrasive [22:41] si! mucho idioso [22:41] lying to someone is pre-middle school [22:41] you love me [22:41] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@229.7.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [22:41] In other news, the sun shined today. [22:42] yay [22:42] and i know idioso! [22:42] hitest, you are merely following the prime directive. Learned this from a frat. the Prime Directive: Drink beer, bang bitches. [22:42] EVILJAMES [22:42] yay vitamin D3! [22:42] rhys++ [22:42] rworkman: sail boats making clouds to reduce sunlight! [22:42] a fleet [22:42] i cut the grazz for some vitz [22:42] J33\/ [22:42] 1337 [22:42] PurpleSmurf, ok then. Satanism gets such a bad rap. But I don't calling your saints "evil" do i? [22:42] rhys_: some ppl do [22:43] rhys_: but i'm not a sectual member [22:43] so i lose nothing by hearing such things [22:43] shit shit guys im too l337 4 jo0 ill be back in a month .... predict me! [22:43] I try to be sectual - as much as my wife can stand it. [22:43] lol [22:43] farewell [22:43] rhys_: ahem. I'm an old Slacker, all seeing, all knowing. I come by my wisdom through experience. beer makes me smarter. [22:43] see; not all disciples are without humor [22:43] SirBobDobbs (n=StasiPro@75.138.78.87) left irc: "Leaving" [22:43] or a brina [22:43] i can't believe he was banned from the library for a month.. [22:44] brain; i have both [22:44] huh? [22:44] @eviljames [22:44] see; not all disciples are without humor or a brain; and i have both [22:44] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:44] rworkman: i thought that attempt might bomb. clearly i was right. [22:45] hitest, you know the way! [22:45] agreed [22:45] eviljames: oh, I *think* I'm with you. I thought you were serious :) [22:45] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [22:45] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:47] rotoroot (n=root@179.sub-70-221-106.myvzw.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:47] Fitswell (n=Fitswell@c-98-207-245-2.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: [22:47] PurpleSmurf, doesn't remove the fact that you completely abandon reason when you start "believing" anything, especially fairy tales told by men who thought lightning was magic. [22:47] links on fb rules... fbui is the future [22:47] my computer is sufficiently audible squeking noises. suggestions mr. jordi. [22:48] rhys_: not at all; seriously, my ability to think, evaluate and analysis are completely intake; and I have even become better at those activities since knowing God. [22:48] rworkman: well, for the sake of completeness, he said he'd be gone for a month, weirdo in the library, a suggested reason. [22:48] Good evening girls and boys [22:48] byteframe: kill the mouse [22:48] rworkman: because that was one odd duck. [22:48] gearlette [22:48] byteframe, open the case, remove the mouse. [22:48] and the wheel [22:48] or any rodentia [22:48] :) [22:48] rhys_: good luck finding "love" if you are unwilling to abandon reason [22:48] [belch] [22:49] (and yes, I'm serious) [22:49] there's no disc in my drive. perhaps fan? loise something? [22:49] (and yes, he's correct) [22:49] byteframe: maybe [22:49] s/loise/loose [22:49] byteframe: sounds like fan bearing [22:49] new fan time [22:49] rworkman, it sounds from the front, where a fan is. (nice xfce packs btw). [22:49] eviljames: "odd duck" doesn't even *begin* to cover that guy. [22:49] byteframe: if you're so inclined, dettach PS/fan, open (unplug first) rm dust, clean fan, reinstall [22:50] byteframe: the sound you describe is one that I lived with for over a year before I finally replaced the PS in one. [22:50] I never touch psu internals. [22:50] too bad, it's fun in there [22:50] Oddlyt enough my psu is at the front. It is a good one though. [22:50] then take to comp shop [22:50] Perhaps computer duster? I can save some after cleaning and inhale it for fun times. [22:50] yea [22:50] use brush tho [22:51] A bit of graphite in the center just might make it go away [22:51] or fine paint brush to clean off dust on things [22:51] rworkman, actually alreadying having that problem, thanks. [22:51] I built the thing, I should be able to clean it, I might as well just get one of those premium case fans and replace them. [22:51] k [22:52] PurpleSmurf, I would be scared to open the psu. but that might be a good idea. [22:52] I suggest water cooling [22:52] rhys_, poppycock. [22:52] byteframe: proper respect is good but with non-metal brush, you'll be fine!!! [22:52] rm all power first [22:53] detach ps from case. goto other room or outside to brush off [22:53] then restinall [22:53] I assume compressed air from a safe distance is fine. [22:53] i was cleaning ps once, didnt leave room; sand smells funi when heated [22:53] sure [22:53] outside is best [22:54] it's not just compressed air i think [22:54] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [22:54] anyone used DMitry [22:54] nop [22:54] Oh yeah, its got lots of other chemicals in it. [22:54] kool lol [22:54] go outside [22:54] Ever see intervention allison? youtube that shit... [22:54] on the topic of cases & psus - a local computer vendor has a special on htpc case+ps.. the universe is giving me a sign! [22:54] htpc? [22:54] jmp it [22:54] home theatre [22:54] k [22:55] $? [22:55] heh echo $? [22:55] 45CAD [22:55] no no no;l HOW MUCH!? [22:55] 45 canadian dollars [22:55] eviljames, how many real dollars is that? [22:55] 45$.ca [22:55] use a domain name [22:55] lol [22:56] 45dollarsforfree.ca.biz [22:56] byteframe: once hyperinflation sets in, $1,000,000! [22:56] what that so hard? [22:56] was [22:56] real dollars are of course, new zealand dollars. [22:56] damn, local restaurant uses alot of MSG [22:56] i'm still bloated 10h later [22:56] oh, then 61 [22:56] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:58] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] we should get pat to include DMitry in slack, I see there is a slackbuild for it [22:59] what is it? [22:59] http://www.mor-pah.net/index.php?file=projects/dmitry [23:00] must i? [23:00] linux cmdline whois lookup for domains [23:00] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.179.239) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:00] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.188.90) joined ##slackware. [23:00] doesnt tell me what it is [23:00] oh :> [23:00] read the site description [23:00] couldnt see it. [23:00] on the link then [23:01] bad contrast [23:01] blue/black; nah. [23:01] ok [23:01] ty [23:01] join the HighContrastProject [23:01] lol [23:04] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d75-158-165-33.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] hey when i scroll down in this irc window, nothing happens [23:05] terrapin (n=unknown@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [23:05] bbl [23:05] juice: what's wrong with whois(1) ? [23:06] Oh, nm. [23:06] :) [23:06] I see - it's like an aggregate tool. [23:07] IOW, the PHB phrase for Dmitri would be: "I could hire a sysadmin that knows wtf he's doing, or I could download Dmitri." [23:07] lol [23:08] FWIW, Wicd is very similar: "I could figure how to do all of this manually, or I could just use wicd." [23:08] (so I'm not poking fun at you or anyone else for taking the easy route -- I use wicd) :) [23:08] "and still cry" [23:08] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:08] (but only after I figured out how to do it manually) (once) (and then I said 'never again') [23:09] i don't use wicd :P [23:09] i do [23:09] i'm lazy [23:09] lol [23:09] (and I like parenthesis (so maybe I should nest a few (or a few more))) [23:09] s/sis/ses/ [23:09] how hard it is to type dhcpcd ethx :P [23:09] i'm an rc.inet1 type of bofh [23:09] err [23:09] s/it is/ is it [23:10] juice: try roaming around on multiple WPA networks. [23:10] (sometimes (though (not always (parenthesis can be nested)))) [23:10] i can't my card doesn't support it :P [23:10] for what it's worth DMitry hang on juice's hostmask for google [23:10] ;) [23:10] eviljames: lookth lithpy to me. [23:10] aironet 350 unless they have a linux firmware for it [23:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [23:10] I think windows can [23:10] but not linux last time I looked [23:10] rworkman do you know what i can use on linux to proxy tcp connections? [23:11] bnhashmi: from which direction? [23:11] as an intercept router [23:11] select chosen traffic [23:11] terminate tcp traffic and recreate tcp connection to dest host [23:11] proxychains....but beware you can kill yourself with proxychains [23:11] if you screw up you will bypass proxychains and it won't halt [23:11] the best thing I've seen is bluecoat, a commercial blackbox product. [23:12] rworkman not gonna do it :) [23:12] (which isn't what you asked) [23:12] :P [23:12] bnhashmi: what is the actual situation? [23:12] ok so ... you really wanna listen to the full story here it is... [23:12] Google is going to be a better resource than me for that - I've not done any proxying except limited stuff with squid [23:13] rworkman i cna't find an open source tcp proxy yet [23:13] i ask because ettercap sounds like it would do what you need. [23:13] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host224-64-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:13] umm [23:13] Action: antiwire walks away [23:13] (and I think antiwire has played with that sort of stuff a bit) :) [23:14] hm.. if xset s noblank, setterm -blank 0 -powersave off -powerdown 0, and all powersave options in KDE are disabled, what else might be the cause of a screen blank after 20 minutes on a standard slack install? [23:14] i know nothing! [23:14] router will intercept tcp connections for selected traffic sources, router will complete the 3 way handshake and start taking data, router will then create another tcp connection on behalf of the client source to the destination server and buffer the tcp data between the spliced tcp connection [23:14] bnhashmi: ettercap. [23:14] done. [23:14] router will also spoof the src client ip for the 2nd tcp connection [23:14] cool [23:15] ettercap + iptables probably :) [23:15] ettercap!!! [23:15] i don't want it to be a bridge.. want it to be a router... [23:15] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [23:15] ok ok i got it antiwire :) [23:15] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:15] i'll start looking into ettercap.. i wonder how scalable it will be [23:15] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@98.246.122.42) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:15] oh, and xset -dpms [23:16] bnhashmi: ettercap even comes with example iptables routing for you [23:16] http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/ <-- looks like what you want, or at least a piece of the puzzle. [23:16] it scales pretty damn well but that depends on your connection [23:16] and the box you run it on [23:16] antiwire: I'd heard of ettercap, but never actually looked into what it does. THanks :) [23:16] quasar: you have powerdevil stuff completely disabled in kde? [23:17] yes sir [23:17] quasar: there's also that guidance power manager thing to look at [23:17] if you are going to mitm a whole *local* lan you'll be fine but if you plan on doing what keifer did and mitm a whole ISP node over you ISP connection you will die a flaming death [23:17] ettercap is nice for security auditing :P [23:17] (as if one screen blank isn't enough, right? :D) [23:17] The only other thing that comes to mind would be BIOS [23:17] I'll check into the guidance power manager.. haven't messed with it yet [23:17] thanks [23:17] lol antiwire [23:18] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] are you sure ettercap actually recreates a 2nd tcp state machine when it splices the connection ? [23:19] bnhashmi: it will do it so well that ssl connections can be mitm'd [23:19] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.3" [23:19] i have tested it myself [23:20] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware. [23:20] (controlled course with professional driver) (of course) [23:20] () [23:20] on the 2nd (spliced) connection i want to use different tcp window sizes when the data is repackaged [23:21] bnhashmi: if you can make iptables do it ettercap will do the nasty part [23:21] t4k3r0n_ (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.163.230) left irc: Client Quit [23:22] to bad i cant use ipfw to do traffic selection [23:22] in conjunction with ettercap [23:23] I've only used ettercap on Linux system [23:23] systems* [23:23] dsnif is also useful but slightly more difficult to use, imo [23:24] what about modifying intercepted tcp payloads prior to sending them back out ? [23:25] that's what these two tools do [23:25] good night folks [23:25] just check them out first [23:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:25] cool i'll have 2 spend some time with them [23:25] honestly, I think it will make more sense if you check it out and just mess around [23:25] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjdlkja@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: [23:25] right [23:25] how can I know available options to compile weechat using cmake ? [23:26] (weechat-0.3) [23:26] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [23:27] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:29] this is crazy http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/0210246/Garbage-Collection-Algorithms-Coming-For-SSDs [23:29] idle garbage collection and disposal. next thing you know, you're ship is sinking [23:29] your too [23:30] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Client Quit [23:30] pinnen (n=pinnen@79.136.44.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:31] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [23:31] rhys_ (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.119.155.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:32] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:33] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [23:39] SM177Y (i=1000@24-231-141-227.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:39] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:44] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [23:44] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:46] I've been hitting stumbles sooner than they hit /. lately [23:48] antiwire: yo :) [23:48] /. is usually 3 days behind everywhere else, or it breaks news and then is ALSO 3 days behind everyone else [23:48] sorry but i still don't see that ettercap is a tcp proxy [23:48] and 6 days, and then 12 days too.. [23:49] eviljames: still awake ? [23:49] close enough, anyhow. :D [23:49] no, he's sleep irc'ing. [23:49] rworkman ettercap is not a full tcp proxy... [23:49] probably safer than sleep walking [23:50] well i guess you all were irc'ing while i were asleep :) [23:50] maybe besides Rogue or whatever, Nethack and Moria should be in Slackware or SBOpkg [23:50] when doing characters injection it does mess with sequence numbers but thats about the closes it comes [23:50] if it was actually a proxy it would not need to mess with sequence numbers... [23:51] because the tcp state would be re-created and the data stream would be repackaged anyhow [23:51] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] specktater (n=speck@76.197.3.140) joined ##slackware. [23:56] fire|bird: btw don't you wana know your new nick option ? [23:56] fire|bird is still known as fire|bird ? [23:57] superGear: yes [23:57] :D [23:57] What else could fire|bird be known as? :D haha [23:57] i think nethack is [23:58] lf4: fire|burp [23:58] init[1]: sure, what have you thought up? [23:58] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/games/nethack/ [23:58] haha [23:58] init[1]: I like fire|fart [23:58] lf4: Well, my other nick is phoenix^ :D [23:58] that sounds like a dragon :) [23:58] fire|bird: yeah I remember :) [23:58] lf4: lol [23:59] gay|bird [23:59] lf4: good grief, that would be painful. :P [23:59] fire|bird: You should reg that nick :P [23:59] superQuear [23:59] fire|poop [23:59] ^ [23:59] :D [23:59] fire|cracker [23:59] fire|bird: are you wite? [23:59] s/wite/white/ [23:59] lf4: lol, yeah. [23:59] lf4: btw im yellow , [23:59] he's black [00:00] --- Sat Aug 8 2009