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[00:05] try removing all but one stick of ram [00:05] if it errors that way, with to a different single stick [00:05] with/switch [00:06] thrice`: updated http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.80/ [00:07] vbatts: awesome, I will be using those as well. :P [00:07] on the laptop [00:07] antiwire: i did that i got farther... im going to try again... macavacity gave me a config file.. but didn't tell me the local (-ajj) so i menuconfig and just using 1 job rather then make -j3 [00:08] antiwire: but i did do that i swapped banks i used one stick then the other... [00:08] ok [00:08] fire|bird: they are still "unstable" [00:08] i have already crashed it out a couple of times [00:08] vbatts: yes, I know, I tried to build it myself and failed, phonon errors. [00:08] vbatts: my laptop is my testbed, so this will fit right in. :P [00:08] antiwire: im trying again and if that doesn't work ill wait to the next stable slackware cause i can install.. its compiling a kernel that gives me problems... i can compile other shit... its mad crazy weird... [00:09] anyways imma go play pool and get drunk in 10 min brb [00:09] Have you completely blown away your the contents of /usr/src/* and reinstalled the packages? [00:10] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:13] antiwire: make clean or rm -R /usr/src/* [00:13] antiwire: i think neither matters because i get desperate and reformatted checking bad blocks and all [00:13] and "make mrproper" too [00:14] fs/jbd2/transaction.c:2134: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault [00:14] Please submit a full bug report, [00:14] with preprocessed source if appropriate. [00:14] Channel flood from substancev -- kicking [00:14] See for instructions. 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[00:17] sure [00:17] saaaweeeet [00:17] tomorrow's project while i work [00:17] at least i have something to do while im getting paid [00:17] bebopX (n=dEXZ@ip-166-187.interbild.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] many thank-yous antiwire... im not a complete dummy... [00:18] check you guys later... going to idle here [00:18] You aren't dumb [00:18] Action: substancev bows [00:18] peace [00:18] Nick change: substancev -> subawaydrunk [00:18] morbid (n=morbid@75-25-116-23.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] . [00:19] i love long names in freenode [00:19] Action: subawaydrunk was fluent in efnet [00:19] efnet ? [00:21] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:22] brbrbr (n=basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "Leaving" [00:22] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[02:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.205) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:09] DallaRosa (n=dalla@isa7-dhcp-116-230.naist.jp) joined ##slackware. [02:10] Nick change: subawaydrunk -> substancev [02:10] Action: substancev is still outhere [02:10] whats good [02:11] slackware [02:14] fedora [02:15] hahahahhhahahahaha [02:15] i'm not good at lying [02:20] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:22] DukeOfMilan (n=kevin@unaffiliated/dukeofmilan) left ##slackware. [02:24] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A536.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:26] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) joined ##slackware. [02:29] jeev jeev [02:29] deco deco [02:29] fedora isn't good [02:30] jeev: go to sleep [02:30] yea right [02:30] too many updates [02:31] it's almost like a rolling release, you forget to update for a couple of weeks and you'l have like 400mb of updates waiting for you [02:31] heh [02:31] what are you updating [02:31] 13 64bit ? [02:31] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-yxdhwkhxujjwohmh) joined ##slackware. [02:31] jeev: talking about fedora [02:31] oh i was kidding [02:31] jeev: i know [02:31] fedora is as white trash as paris hilton [02:31] heh [02:32] freefox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [02:34] a whaaaa? [02:34] what [02:34] fedora might be a crappy distro, but I like the hat (not the red hat, but brown or black fedora hats) [02:34] hey adhesives|rainfall [02:35] err Urchlay [02:35] wow [02:35] nothing with rpm is good [02:35] hey, globally|improve [02:35] up2date, rpm, apt [02:35] eh, fire|bird [02:35] whatever gentoo uses [02:35] ubutninttn [02:35] ubunturd? [02:35] Urchlay: the second one was: disambiguate|whores [02:35] heh [02:35] well I knows a whore when I sees one [02:36] the next one was: cranking|perplexed [02:38] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:38] hi, the keyboard language flags in the right corner seems to be limited to 4 to change from even though in the kxkbrc file i added many more. How can I make it switch between more flags? [02:38] fire|bird: hey, you do drums with hydrogen? [02:39] can't believe computer bottleneck's are gone soon [02:39] as far as hard drives [02:39] Urchlay: I've messed with it some, I'm not great at it, yet, but yeah. :P [02:40] 2 toys for you to play with then [02:40] http://www.jeev.net/~urchlay/alesis_hr16-0.0.h2drumkit <--- I made a drumkit [02:41] http://dpaste.com/128699/ <--- and a script that makes slackware packages out of drumkits [02:41] alesis heh [02:41] Urchlay i got my brother an i5 for protools [02:42] hey, I used to love my alesis [02:42] what's an i5? [02:42] core i5 [02:42] hehe [02:42] Urchlay: intel [02:42] Urchlay: awesome, thanks. [02:43] ah [02:43] sorry, I was thinking it was some kinda plugin for protools [02:44] jeev: lol nice cookie monster [02:44] jeev: it was my fav google logo [02:44] Urchlay: fedora might be a crappy distro, but I like the hat (not the red hat, but brown or black fedora hats) [02:44] fire|bird: current project is, create the "ultimate" drumkit for hydrogen [02:44] blackhat! [02:44] heh [02:44] i was testing something [02:44] dchmelik: yeah, a black fedora. I'd wear one. [02:46] what is hydrogen? [02:46] dchmelik: it was good enough for granddad, it's good enough for me [02:46] dchmelik: software drum machine [02:46] dchmelik: http://www.hydrogen-music.org/ [02:46] in SlackBuilds? [02:46] not yet I don't think [02:47] Urchlay: no, not yet, dive is working on it. [02:47] I want someone to pump out some trance and jungle with it [02:47] fire|bird: I used the slackbuild from you guys (slackware studio) [02:48] eh, I am so far out of touch with techno/house music, I don't even know the difference between trance and jungle [02:48] lol [02:48] I'm trying to make hydrogen sound like a regular acoustic drum kit [02:49] got a set of ludwigs in the living room, and a shure 58 mic [02:49] sadly, people are trying to sleep, so can't hit the drums :( [02:50] Urchlay: blah just bust out some neil peart :P [02:50] heh [02:50] I can play bass like Geddy Lee on a good day [02:51] (I mean when I'm having a good day, I play like him when he's having a bad day) [02:51] lol [02:53] hm. Recorded "Working Man" with band, but it's not on the hideous myspace page [02:54] freefox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.127) left irc: "Leaving" [02:55] nice [02:58] ugh, it's a *really* ugly myspace page [02:59] is there some kinda rule that myspace only lets you use backgrounds that obscure the text, and requires you to use rotten looking colors? [03:00] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:03] Urchlay: no, but a lot of them look that way. :P [03:04] yeah, this page was made by the guitar player... As a web designer, he's a good guitar player. [03:04] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.40.67) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:05] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:20] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:22] night night [03:22] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [03:22] night deco :) [03:24] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.36.82) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:26] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) joined ##slackware. [03:27] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [03:27] hy [03:27] where can i find a gnupg tgz file ? [03:28] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.24.254) joined ##slackware. [03:28] Hi, I'm running Dell studio 17* and Slackware .0, Any idea why I have sound as root but as a different user, sound won't work [03:28] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:28] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:29] june maybe u have to add your user to group sound? [03:29] jude, is this new user a member of the audio group? [03:29] bebopX (n=dEXZ@ip-166-187.interbild.net) joined ##slackware. [03:29] how do I do this? [03:29] usermod .... [03:30] dorin: on your slackware cd or dvd, or on a slackware ftp site [03:30] usermod -g users -G audio whoeveritis [03:30] gnupg is part of slack, in other words, just have to install it [03:31] is he thinking maybe gpg? [03:31] which: no gnupg in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/kde4/libexec:/usr/lib/qt/bin:/usr/share/texmf/bin:.) [03:31] DallaRosa (n=dalla@isa7-dhcp-116-230.naist.jp) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:31] /usr/bin/gpg [03:31] i have a bigger problem : i can not use slackpkg to install any packages [03:31] are you root? [03:31] me, yes [03:32] use installpkg then if slackpkg isn't working [03:32] anyone here by chance using djbdns? :) [03:32] dorin: what happens when you try? (use www.pastebin.ca to paste the error message(s) you get) [03:33] it's easy: mount CD as root, then go to /mnt/wherever/you/mounted/it/slackware/ and then installpkg */*gpg*t[gx]z [03:33] if you are on slackware 13 the packages now end in .txz [03:33] hence .t[gx]z (means .tgz and .txz) [03:34] slack 13 [03:34] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [03:34] gartt_ (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:34] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) left irc: "Leaving" [03:37] Urchlay, i will post in a minute [03:37] dorin, do you need help with how to do any of this? [03:38] if this works: http://pastebin.ca/1705286 [03:38] then no :P [03:39] note: i do not have gpg (or gnupg) installed [03:39] You have a broken /var/log/packages - with two versions of the same package. <--- have you fixed that already? [03:40] # [03:40] md5sum: /var/cache/packages//xargs:: No such file or directory [03:40] # Upgrading xargs:... [03:40] that looks like a bug in slackpkg, not something you did wrong [03:41] i can not install anything [03:41] or upgrade [03:41] Error: there is no installed package named xargs.c:445:. <--- xargs.c:445 is the source file and line number within the file, an error message from xargs itself [03:41] you should probably show us your mounts [03:41] Axius (n=fim@92.84.7.2) joined ##slackware. [03:41] dorin: check & see if your /tmp and/or /var partition(s) are full (or your / partition if you didn't split them into separate partitions) [03:42] Error: there is no installed package named failed.. [03:42] cute. Someone should show this paste to PiterPunk when/if he's around [03:42] Morn [03:42] /dev/root 9,2G 6,7G 2,1G 77% / [03:42] even if it turns out to be because his disk is full, slackpkg should give a better error message [03:42] so,there are 2 G [03:43] dorin: you don't have /tmp or /var as separate partitions? [03:43] no [03:43] just a /home partition and a / [03:43] and a /boot [03:44] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) joined ##slackware. [03:44] ok, did you fix the "duplicate package" error? [03:44] how..? [03:44] omg [03:44] no,i din not fix [03:44] removepkg /var/adm/wine-0.9.61-i486-1kjz # that would do it [03:45] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:45] I'm assuming wine-1.1.28 was installed afterwards, it should still be fine [03:47] i fix that [03:47] still that errors [03:48] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:49] DallaRosa (n=dalla@walnut.naist.jp) joined ##slackware. [03:50] ok, you don't have any of the common/obvious problems [03:50] you're going to have to ask someone like PiterPunk (sbopkg author) [03:50] er, slackpkg [03:50] or have I gotten confused about who wrote which script again? *shrug*, anyway, you need more help than I can give you right now [03:50] bah i hate mac os like looking shit...why dont they just go and buy apple instead of bothering me with mac "themes" "skinz" "styles" all over teh place [03:51] most mac impersonating themes look like garbage. xfce4 looks a whole lot like mac if you use lineart theme with winter colors [03:51] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [03:51] all GUIs look like a mac to me [03:52] bebopX (n=dEXZ@ip-166-187.interbild.net) left irc: [03:52] cause the first one I ever saw was an original mac, in like 1984... [03:54] (bleah, now I feel old) [03:54] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.24.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:55] my first "ui" was a pdp11-73 vt100 terminal in 1982...now I feel old [03:55] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.45.157) joined ##slackware. [03:55] i post my "problem to #slackpkg (wayting for a answer). Urchlay: tnx [03:56] Urchlay: heh, I just tried your drumkit, I have no sound with it, but all the other kits work. :P [03:56] cteg: I was ghetto, my first was an Atari 400 in 1980. Your first machine was at least a real machine, mine had 16K of RAM and cassette tape storage :( [03:56] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-204.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:56] talking ui back then, i saw a that cubic little mac in 1986 or something, what was the name? lisa? or mackintosh? was like a little revolution that days [03:57] fire|bird: well damn. Ehhh, my samples are wav files, but some of the official add-on kits use wav samples [03:57] dorin, what problem ? [03:57] cteg: the NeXT? (or NexT or NExT or however you're supposed to capitalize it) [03:57] ALVAN: i can not use slackpkg to install any package anymore [03:58] can you paste bin the error ? [03:58] fire|bird: my samples are also 44.1KHz (are you running jack in 44.1 or 48KHz mode? Not that it should matter, hydrogen's supposed to be smarter than that) [03:58] pate bin at dpaste.org [03:58] *paste [03:58] Urchlay: playing the individual .wav files works, they play fine, just don't play in hydrogen. :P [03:58] Urchlay: 44.1 [03:59] Axius (n=fim@92.84.7.2) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:59] Urchlay: that one :) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Macintosh_128k_transparency.png [03:59] at all? I mean even if you click the drum's name over in the left hand column, you hear naught? [03:59] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:59] Axius (n=fim@92.84.26.76) joined ##slackware. [03:59] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) got netsplit. [03:59] Rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) got netsplit. [03:59] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) got netsplit. [03:59] ugly little bastard [03:59] Urchlay: yup, I hear nothing, nada, zip....... :P [04:00] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) returned to ##slackware. [04:00] fire|bird: lemme check something... [04:00] How to set alsamixer to have the some volume settings? [04:00] Rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) returned to ##slackware. [04:01] http://pastebin.ca/170528 [04:01] everytime the system starts. [04:01] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:01] car mod gone wrong: http://i.imgur.com/6zjzq.jpg :P [04:02] dorin: " [04:02] Sorry, an error has occurred. Reason: That is an invalid ID, or the post has expired. [04:02] dorin, invalid post or you forgot to hit submit .... [04:02] sure he wasn't from south of the border? [04:02] fire|bird: ^^ [04:03] alisonken1noc: haha [04:03] the post seems to be expired already [04:03] be back in a minute [04:03] alisonken1noc: Well, with all those reflectors, no matter where he's at, he'll be seen. [04:03] :P [04:03] :) [04:03] are you sure that they're _only_ reflectors? [04:04] alisonken1noc: No, just going by look, there's some things that I am not sure what are. :P [04:04] here: http://paste.org/pastebin/view/12648 [04:04] a few of the horizontal reds appear to be lighted [04:04] fire|bird: I see why: I changed the name of the drumkit within the drumkit.xml file, and I forgot stupid-ass hydrogen requires the human-readable name to be identical to the directory name. One sec. [04:05] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) got lost in the net-split. [04:05] Jordanlw (n=Jordan@202.61.218.3.static.rev.aanet.com.au) left ##slackware. [04:05] Urchlay: haha, ok. [04:05] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:06] Delahunt (n=robert@ZH020111.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:06] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [04:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:09] dorin, can you try to change the mirror with another one .. maybe your current mirror dont have gpg support [04:09] i will try ( gpg i recently remove it ) [04:10] and run first slackpkg update [04:10] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH020111.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:10] Nick change: Delahunt -> ChickenLittle [04:11] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:12] fire|bird: OK, fixed it. Remove the broken one and install the new one. URL is the same: http://www.jeev.net/~urchlay/alesis_hr16-0.0.h2drumkit [04:13] Urchlay: ok, thanks. I'll try it tomorrow, it's 03:12 here. I have to get going. [04:13] yeh, past any sane person's bedtime... [04:13] lol [04:13] see ya [04:13] Action: Urchlay stays up a bit longer [04:13] adios [04:13] really [04:13] i'm not sane [04:13] :( [04:13] juice: yeah, accept it, your not sane. [04:14] later guys [04:14] lol [04:14] later [04:14] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:14] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:15] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:16] DallaRosa (n=dalla@walnut.naist.jp) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:16] dorin, you might also try to remove everything in /var/cache/packages [04:16] Nick change: Sadnem|Z__Z -> Sadnem [04:17] if you use slackware64 be sure you use the slackware64 mirrors [04:17] ugh, yeah [04:18] seen a few people in here break things horribly trying to use a 32-bit mirror on slack64 [04:18] but their error messages were nothing like the ones he's getting [04:18] it is 32bit [04:19] yeap you are right .. just wanted to be sure [04:19] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [04:20] Axius (n=fim@92.84.26.76) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:22] it seems a package that is in cache an is incomplete and slackpg tries to update it [04:23] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.128) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:23] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.79) joined ##slackware. [04:24] well, nothing it's supposed to be doing, should be making it try to use error messages as package names to install (it's trying to install packages named "xargs.c:445" and "failed") [04:24] dorin, who tried to update named ... there is no package with the name "named " in slackware [04:24] maybe the probelm could be that i install some packages with src2pkg ? [04:24] and actually ISTR something funky about xargs and locales... dorin, what do you have LANG set to in the environment? [04:24] named? do you mean bind? [04:25] Urchlay, ro_RO.utf-8 [04:25] still this same thing? [04:26] dorin, if you remove everything from /var/cache/packages directory and try again first with slackpkg update is the same ? [04:27] dorin: try running 'export LANG=C' in your shell, then run slackpkg again [04:27] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:27] noup [04:28] xargs: xargs.c:445: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed. <--- there's the full error message you're getting, I think [04:28] this is some kind of bug in xargs from a while back, I can't rememer what caused it or how to work around it [04:29] dorin: what happens if you just type "xargs" and hit Enter? [04:29] xargs: xargs.c:445: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed. Aborted [04:29] man xargs [04:30] yeah. Something is wrong with xargs on your system. I've seen this before (a while back), but am having trouble remembering or finding out the details again [04:30] i can not just replace it with o "good one" ? [04:31] dorin, ls -l /var/log/packages/find* [04:31] the one that comes with slackware is supposed to *be* a good one. What version slackware are you running? [04:31] 13 [04:32] what have you done to it since installing? [04:32] Why is F8 sometimes my VT to switch to for X? nvidia thing? [04:32] i do not know: installing some programs (with src2pkg) [04:33] configuring and get used to kde [04:33] dorin: probably not surprising though [04:33] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-207-50.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:33] src2pkg coud be the problem? [04:33] did you check the packages before you installed them? [04:33] I seriously can't remember what caused this problem when I saw it before, or even remember what system I saw it on (almost certainly slackware, no idea what ver) [04:34] evening all [04:34] spook: configure &&make &&thackinstall [04:34] track istall make a tgz file [04:35] trackinstall ** [04:35] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:35] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:35] all I can think of here: get the findutils package from a slack dvd or ftp mirror and reinstall it (with "upgradepkg --reinstall ...") [04:35] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:35] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:35] but I think that isn't going to help [04:36] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware. [04:36] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:36] (because I doubt you actually did anything weird to your xargs binary) [04:36] greetings [04:36] ls -l /var/log/packages/find* output is : [04:37] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4617 Nov 9 11:25 /var/log/packages/findutils-4.2.31-i486-1 [04:37] Urchlay: i think he definately has. [04:37] spook: actually I'm betting it turns out to be a bad shared library, not xargs itself. [04:37] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:37] what the heck are you doing with a findutils that old? What version of slackware are you running? [04:39] spook: I saw this exact issue (IIRC even down to the same line number where the assertion fails) before, trying to remember what caused it [04:40] yes that is old slackware-13 has findutils-4.4.2 [04:41] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:42] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH020111.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [04:42] dorin: what version of slackware are you running? "cat /etc/slackware-version" [04:43] Slackware 12.2.0 :-? :-? [04:43] i installed 13.0 [04:43] 8.1? [04:43] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:44] alisonken1noc: nah, that version of findutils he has, was only in 12.0 12.1 12.2 [04:44] :) [04:44] it show me :Slackware 12.2.0 [04:44] ok - forgot the smiley on the previous post [04:45] dorin: are you sure you booted into the correct install? (maybe you have more than one slackware root partition?) [04:45] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-yxdhwkhxujjwohmh) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [04:46] dorin: what do you get if you do this: ls /var/adm/packages/aaa_base* [04:46] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:46] 99.99 % sure i boot the 13.0 version (it is the only one) [04:46] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:46] /var/adm/packages/aaa_base-12.2.0-noarch-1 [04:47] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-163.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] what if i just reinstall it slackware (with no hdd format) ?? [04:48] you are not running 13.0 [04:48] mornin',folks (or afternoon or evening dependin' where you are) [04:48] i can see that :) [04:49] or maybe... do this: [04:49] grep '^[^#]' /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [04:49] ftp://mirrors.virginmedia.com/sites/ftp.slackware.com/slackware-13.0/ \n http://serghei.net/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/ [04:49] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [04:50] uhmmm [04:50] RLa (n=rla@133.220.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee) left irc: "Leaving" [04:50] Urchlay: '^[\s]+[^#]' i think is better :P [04:50] I think maybe you installed 13.0, and the first time you ran slackpkg, it "updated" you to 12.2 [04:50] Urchlay: hahaha :) [04:51] spook: *shrug*, IIRC slackpkg fails if there's whitespace in front of the mirror anyway [04:51] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:51] or in front of the # mark [04:51] oh thats true. well remembered. [04:51] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-xdapfieaegyoybzj) joined ##slackware. [04:51] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [04:52] dorin: I think it's "game over" for you, you're better off reinstalling than you would be trying to clean up the mess [04:53] a clean install or on top of ....this? [04:53] wow #fedora's asleep [04:53] actually, what version of aaa_elflibs does he have [04:54] found my usb hub [04:54] woop. FreeNAS is switching from bsd to linux ! [04:54] spook: wait, \s works in grep now? thought it had to be [:space:] or something [04:55] Zordrak: woop [04:55] dorin: blow it away, I mean. Do a fresh install (but don't blow away your /home partition) [04:55] ok [04:55] Urchlay: :space: is the posix standard, i think \s is an alias [04:55] tnx 4 help [04:56] nah, [\s] doesn't work in my grep [04:56] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) left irc: "Leaving" [04:56] Urchlay: oh, well, it works in python [04:56] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [04:56] though it might work in debian/ubuntu's grep, because they compile their grep with --enable-pcre [04:56] yeah, \s works in perl too, wish it worked in grep [04:57] doesnt work for me [04:58] Urchlay: actually, it will probably work in egrep or grep -e [04:58] \s works with the -P flag passed to grep [04:59] no -P here [04:59] well this has been an interesting visit to #grep [04:59] frullet_: hm, thought that flag was only available if grep's compiled with --enable-pcre [04:59] oops, no -P for egrep, grep works -P [\s] [04:59] grazymax (n=grazymax@host99-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:59] (but apparently it does exist in slackware, which definitely doesn't use pcre for grep) [05:00] in other news, my cat has been hanging out on top of the fridge for the last hour. I just went to get a drink and discovered he took a crap up there. [05:00] ew lol [05:00] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH019176.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [05:01] going to change his name to Captain Kirk: he's boldly gone where no man (or cat) has gone before [05:01] lol [05:01] I don't get it, he's litter trained [05:02] it's being rebellious [05:02] lol Urchlay [kirk] [05:02] that or he's afraid to jump down from there [05:04] askhader (n=askhader@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [05:04] I didn't actually look, but I bet he went in the change bowl we keep up there [05:04] lol....'Tis the season to give...:P [05:04] heh [05:05] sorry,,,couldn't help it..:D [05:06] give it back [05:06] your mom gives [05:06] ugh [05:07] I just can't make VRDP work on any of my guests. The host isn't behind a NAT, does not have RDP enabled, each guest's port is allowed in iptables, but when a client tries to connect via VRDP it gets connection timed out or so... [05:07] That is on Virtual BOx [05:07] is in-bound traffic blocked? [05:09] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:09] apoca (n=a@haydn.n2.nognu.de) left ##slackware. [05:09] Christ.. and i thought i couldn't have less respect for him already --> " Azeotrope [n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer] " [05:09] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:10] why? [05:10] morning :) [05:10] Camarade_Tux: morn [05:10] hi tux [05:11] quick someone: name a utility for Linux that can extract the audio samples from a sound font file? [05:11] mornin',Camarade_Tux [05:11] sound font file? [05:11] yeah [05:11] Action: ChickenLittle has no clue what a sound font is [05:11] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] and don't say "fluidsynth", it can use soundfonts, but AFAIK won't simply extract the samples to separate wav files [05:11] morning Zordrak, MLanden, tripFantastic :) [05:11] gartt_ (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:12] ChickenLittle: basically a proprietary-ish archive of audio samples, plus some metadata. Usually used as patches for MIDI. [05:12] Action: ChickenLittle learned something new [05:14] http://www.whatisyourmomsipaddress.com [05:14] back when sound cards had fancy onboard wavetables and games actually used MIDI, you'd download a soundfont to your soundblaster... [05:14] I wanted to rip one apart & see if the drums sounded anything like actual drums [05:14] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [05:15] Azeotrope is in-bound traffic blocked? [05:15] ChickenLittle: ^ no dns [05:16] ah, here we go: http://learjeff.net/sf/sf.html [05:16] Urchlay: google shows some app called sfark/sfarkxtc that has linux source [05:17] whoops...s/source/binary [05:19] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:20] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [05:20] yeah, I found that [05:23] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:30] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [05:30] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:31] MLanden: OK, sfArk is a compression format for soundfonts. The sfArk program just turns a sfArk-compressed soundfont back into an uncompressed soundfont... not real helpful for ripping the samples out of it :( [05:32] Urchlay: so I see...was trying the same thing with an AWE64 sf2 file [05:33] eh, this was just mild curiosity, not something I have a burning need for [05:33] apparently rosegarden can use soundfonts as-is [05:33] I just found a damn nice sounding one that's sampled from an old rhodes keyboard, will keep it for possible future use :) [05:34] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH019176.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [05:34] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH019176.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [05:34] Delahunt (n=robert@ZH019176.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [05:34] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH019176.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: Client Quit [05:35] hello all [05:35] Delahunt (n=robert@ZH019176.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: Client Quit [05:35] I need help my xwm is crashing [05:35] when i boot up to startx [05:35] :( [05:35] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH019176.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [05:36] it just hangs and i cant do nothing but hit the power button [05:38] good notion though,Urchlay [05:39] MLanden: apparently timidity (the midi player) has rudimentary support for sf2 files [05:39] Kidpunkx: you made a full install? which graphic driver? which slackware version? changed anything to HAL? [05:39] so maybe I can make Doom II sound really nice [05:39] Camarade_Tux, ful install on slackware dvd 13.0 [05:39] (honestly, it sounds nice enough to me already) [05:41] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.45.157) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:41] VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller [05:41] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: [05:44] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [05:44] Kidpunkx: is this all {wm,de}s or just one? [05:44] just one [05:44] Kidpunkx: also, what do you see? you said xwm crashed but you also said it hung, which one? and which WM/DE? [05:44] its integrated [05:45] Kidpunkx, could you repeat some of what you said? i might know how to help you [05:45] when i type startx on user [05:45] it loads but um.. freezes [05:45] Kidpunkx: does it leave an .xsessien-errors ? [05:45] and i cant do anything [05:46] i'm not sure but i have a paste bin if oyu want to see it? [05:46] and anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [05:46] pb what you have.. cant hurt [05:47] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:47] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:48] tsonev_ (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [05:51] Kidpunkx, uh, slackware 13? [05:52] do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [05:52] yeah [05:53] yeah to which? [05:54] http://linuxsociety.pastebin.com/m31a4ff49 [05:55] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-203-71.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:55] try it without an xorg.conf if you are using slackware 13 [05:56] >.< [05:56] did you do a full install? [05:56] it's complaining of missing font directories (i normally don't see that in an Xorg.0.log) [05:56] francog (i=francog@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:56] and missing input devices or so it seems [05:57] Kidpunkx: in 13.0 you should only have an xorg.conf if you specifically need one [05:58] Zordrak, can you help this n00b what he shoudl do [05:58] ChickenLittle, yeah full install i tihnk it was 4.3 [05:59] mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old [05:59] then try it again [05:59] francog (i=francog@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [06:01] Kidpunkx: don't be afraid, with slackware13 you don't need to have an xorg.conf [06:01] well, you usually don't need to [06:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host20.201-252-205.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:02] no xorg.conf ? [06:02] why is that? [06:02] i found the same shit in ubuntu [06:02] no conf.. [06:02] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:02] automatically guessed [06:02] works pretty well usually [06:02] how to see hom much mb is a directory from the console ? [06:02] in .screenrc I can make 4 - 5 windows but what do I need to type in for it go do this command: Control-a 0 to go to window 1? I want it to go to window 0 by default [06:03] tsonev_: du -hs dir [06:03] what if you have to install a graphic driver then? [06:03] does it not write a conf then? [06:03] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [06:03] C00re: hal detects your I/O devices and passes the info to X [06:04] ok [06:04] C00re: if you want to use a *different* driver to those that hal detects.. then you need to tell hal about ith, or tell X about it [06:04] okk [06:05] C00re: eg, default method for proprietary nvidia driver is to let it write out an xorg.conf of its own in the installer... but you have to go in ad delete the keyboard and mouse info it puts in there [06:05] okay [06:09] Camarade_Tux, I'm sorry to bother you i have 3 um.. which one xorg.conf-fbdev, -vesa, .backup <--- which ones? [06:09] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-77-154.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:09] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:09] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:09] Kidpunkx: did you try 'X -configure' and look at /root/xorg.conf ? [06:10] Kidpunkx: wait. [06:10] Kidpunkx: Do you have "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" .. yes or no? [06:10] Zordrak, yeah [06:11] Kidpunkx: do this (exactly): mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.bak.20091207} [06:11] i've got type so far /etc/X11/xorg.conf *switch too tty1* [06:13] tsonev_ (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:13] mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.bak.20091207} [06:13] >.< [06:14] i did not mean type it back to me. [06:15] Kidpunkx: if they aren't named exactly "xorg.conf", they are not used [06:15] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-34-131.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:16] Zordrak, successsful! root@FUBx:~# [06:16] what ever that means [06:16] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [06:17] i. have. no. words. [06:17] what does {,.bak.20091207} [06:17] means [06:17] Hello Kid and Zordrak [06:17] backup of a file with a certain date [06:17] ? [06:17] oh sorry [06:18] Zordrak, so thats it? [06:18] Kidpunkx: just try X again.. before i do something i regret [06:19] Zordrak: :) [06:19] So, I have 4 Vbox machines with VRDP enabled on different ports. The host doesn't have RDP enabled and iptables allow those ports. When I try to connect (by host's RDP client, by another VM RDP client, or by a client from another city the following message occurs: "the remote computer has ended the connection" [06:19] Azeotrope fourth time; :) is in-bound traffic being blocked? [06:19] Zordrak, you sure? okay let me blind fold my self before hitting enter on startx [06:20] lol [06:20] so scared [06:20] i dont want to look [06:20] Now, i did netstat -a, and it listens for the VRDP port. Wireshark as root with filter "port 5678" (5678 my VRDP port for that machine) got no packets when client tries to connect [06:20] sshhhh. [06:21] i can hear packets dropping [06:21] tripFantastic: I don't think so. How do I check? [06:21] Zordrak, still the same i shot a picture with my cam look what happens [06:21] Azeotrope nmap; login remote and try to connect back [06:21] Kidpunkx: also, in case it stops, have you tried ctrl+alt+suppr and waiting for a minute? [06:21] should be a nicer reboot [06:22] Inacio (i=1000@120.174.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:23] tripFantastic: nmap on my ip does not show port 5678 [06:23] that's the answer. [06:23] what is suppr [06:23] http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/masterx831/124410.jpg [06:23] super key [06:23] Azeotrope check iptables inbound for block on that port [06:24] gartt_ (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:24] Azeotrope maybe isp is blocking? change port to connect to. [06:26] tripFantastic: afaik the isp doesn't block. i changed the port, still the same error. It worked a few weeks ago [06:26] what's changed since? [06:27] tripFantastic: nothing. I just used the VM locally, no modifications. [06:27] well something's changed [06:27] maybe it's an iptables fault, but i don't know how to use them [06:27] well study up on that then; find a howto; red manpage [06:28] i tried, a little to hard for me [06:28] i dont have that super key [06:28] taleon (i=cruesch@ipv6.crsc.eu) joined ##slackware. [06:28] Hi. [06:28] tuubaaku_ (n=tuubaaku@h31.82.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [06:28] Azeotrope keep reading the manpage until it jells [06:28] look at -L [06:28] one word at a time [06:29] read /usr/man/*/* [06:29] and usr/doc/* [06:29] heya,taleon [06:30] Hi MLanden. [06:33] tripFantastic: http://pastebin.org/61729 [06:33] are those ALL the inbound rules? [06:34] yes [06:34] TClayton (n=TClayton@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:34] so you need to add a rule for the port [06:34] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:34] and port 5678 never existed as port in my VRDP machines. it was example. those I use for VRDPS [06:34] yea [06:35] what was this site again where you can paste your lscpi and get hints about needed modules etc [06:35] kamuto? [06:35] forgot the name [06:35] duno [06:35] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-3-71-178.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [06:35] tripFantastic: so the port is open? [06:36] nop [06:36] you know it's not [06:37] iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5903 -j ACCEPT [06:37] k [06:37] i opened them so [06:37] test [06:37] giuppy (n=giuppy@host139-162-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:37] cteg: hwinfo does that [06:38] but that's an app [06:40] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [06:41] ivan__ (n=ivan@118.83.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:41] tripFantastic: still nothing [06:41] try ##networking [06:41] masterx831 (i=1000@adsl-235-213-54.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:42] Nick change: masterx831 -> Masterx831 [06:43] tripFantastic: if i use a port, let's say 5400 and i have no iptables allow for it, i get the same message [06:43] tripFantastic is an awesome source of information. however the information is not usually correct or safe. [06:44] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-214-34-139.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:44] i prefer multplipe problems rather than only one cause i have more chances of resolving at least one [06:44] heh [06:45] tuubaaku (n=tuubaaku@h162.88.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:46] so, i'm pretty sure that is a problem on my side. with iptables [06:46] was that line correct to open a port? [06:46] ##iptables too i think [06:46] i think so but ask the two chans i named [06:46] Azeotrope: pastebin the output of iptables-save [06:48] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) joined ##slackware. [06:49] http://pastebin.org/61754 [06:49] take care,folks [06:49] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-163.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [06:50] spook: I put some "x" at the end of the IP addresses [06:51] elliot98 (n=elliot@109.66.47.199) joined ##slackware. [06:51] you definately need to visit ##networking and ##iptables; that just went beyond my knowledge. [06:51] thanks pprkut [06:51] join /##iptables [06:52] sorry [06:52] s'ok [06:52] sometimes this channel just makes me want to wee.p [06:52] having some problems finding out drivers for my new board which arrive next days [06:52] i dont see a need to define INBOUND rule [06:53] tripFantastic: okay stfu now. [06:53] cteg, try dmidecode [06:53] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:53] ALVAN: yeah.. REAAAL useful... [06:53] cteg: whats the board? [06:53] especially intel-hd sound and rtl8112L nic [06:53] gartt_ (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:53] its asus p755d [06:53] p7p55d [06:54] cteg: the intel hd audio will be handled by alsa [06:54] if not the stable then the latest dev [06:55] rtl8122L does not compute [06:55] Action: ChickenLittle has intel hd audio and it works fine so far [06:55] checking asus [06:55] Azeotrope: what exactly are you trying to do again? [06:55] lol@quad gpu support [06:56] spook: I want to connect via a RDP client to my VRDP-enabled virtual machines inside VirtualBox [06:56] how are the virtual machines networked? [06:56] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [06:56] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-xdapfieaegyoybzj) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [06:57] spook: behind a NAT (the guest acting as NAT) [06:57] spook: vboxnet0 currently disabled [06:57] Azeotrope: chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward for a start. [06:57] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-wyopdlelkkofjymm) joined ##slackware. [06:58] then, -A FORWARD -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5678 -j ACCEPT [06:58] damn webirc :( problems just when it gets interesting [06:58] slackie (n=x@cb2-84-91-28-22.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:59] -A PREROUTING -i $hostinterface -p tcp --dport 5678 -j DNAT --to-destination $destinationip:$port [06:59] insane.. asus confirms 8122L, but there are literally 0 results for "realtek 8122L" [06:59] Azeotrope: that should do what you want. [06:59] spook: thanks [07:00] Zordrak: its 8112L sorry if i missspelled it earlier [07:00] Azeotrope: also cleanup your ruleset, its very ugly [07:00] ahritne [07:01] tripFantastic: in future, if you dont know the answer, just shut up. [07:02] spook: i don't know how to cleanup [07:03] spook: i get the same error [07:03] i've read on some ubunto forum they installed a backport to get the onboard sound running, that means probably its in the latest kernel already [07:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-34-131.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:03] cteg: its not the kernel you need to worry about.. just the latest ALSA tree [07:04] Azeotrope: wipe the list, start from scratch [07:04] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [07:04] spook: if i do that, it's gonna take years to make it work. [07:04] i know 0 about iptables [07:04] and ith looks like the 8112L is supported by the 8111/8168B driver.. so you should be fine [07:04] Azeotrope: unlikely. [07:05] fine...thanks a lot Zordrak [07:05] np [07:06] cteg: http://www.linux-tested.com/results/asus_m4a78_plus.html <-- same network chip and passes compat [07:06] Azeotrope: most of the stuff in your ruleset doesnt work anyway. is this machine connected directly to the net? [07:06] spook: yes. [07:07] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: "Leaving" [07:07] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:08] Azeotrope: is eth1 the internal interface? [07:08] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-djxmumjlgphvzcoq) joined ##slackware. [07:08] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:08] nice link, wasn't aware of that site [07:09] its a shit link to a shit site... but it answers the network chip support question [07:09] I've been using tds.net for some time for my slackware needs [07:09] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-207-50.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [07:09] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-207-50.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:09] wrong window - sorry :) [07:10] testing fees...hrm [07:10] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:11] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:14] spook: yes, that's eth1 [07:14] Azeotrope: http://pastebin.org/61759 thats my cleaning up of the ruleset. [07:14] ah found that guy. "kmuto" [07:14] Azeotrope: lots of things i just broke, but you should be able to understand/fix it easier now. [07:15] Zordrak: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ thats what i meant. but seems only useful if one is really sitting in front of his box [07:15] spook: thank you very much. Do i add this line by line? [07:16] not bad [07:19] Azeotrope: read it and see what i've written, then save it to a file and use iptables-restore < filename [07:21] i don't need port 5678. the prerouting thing. can i delete the lines related to it? [07:21] thats the bit that does the RDP thing you wanted [07:22] spook: but in my vrdp settings i don't have this port. ony the ones with 590x [07:22] Azeotrope: then change the port. [07:23] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:23] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:24] so i must add the prerouting lines to each of 5901, 5902 etc ports? [07:24] flambers (n=flambers@unaffiliated/flambers) joined ##slackware. [07:24] yes [07:24] PiterPunk: [07:24] um i hate to ask but is he having questions getting internet into his Sun VirtualBox? with mine i just told it to NAT the VBoxen and it worked without configuration ... (just sayin') [07:25] ChickenLittle: yes, i do [07:25] not trying to interrupt, sorry [07:25] Azeotrope: for the ports you are connecting to externally, you need a FORWARD rule to accept each port. then to actually route it to the virtual machine you need the PREROUTING rule. [07:26] Azeotrope: if you want the machines to have net access, you need to add a DNAT rule in... [07:27] -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE [07:27] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:27] oh wait... [07:27] yeah thats what i thought you've got your tables all messed up [07:28] spook: something is not ok with my iptables. a few weeks ago it worked fine just by setting the VRDP ports in vrdp and then adding an allow line for each port [07:28] I don't know about iptables. I'm from bsd and there you need to do the forwards/rdr before all other rules like block, pass in and out etc. [07:29] Azeotrope: http://pastebin.org/61764 try that one [07:29] taleon: the order goes PREROUTING FORWARD INPUT OUTPUT POSTROUTING, i think. lemme double check [07:30] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Netfilter-packet-flow.svg [07:30] anyone knows how to patch wine to support winepulse on slackware 13 64 bits? (i mean using this patch http://art.ified.ca/?page_id=40) [07:31] spook: bookmarked. Nice to know the differences. :-) [07:31] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. 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[08:38] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@20150067036.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:39] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [08:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] g'morning you leet haxors [08:46] morning haldir [08:47] hello hitest, quiet monday morning :-) [08:48] yeah, just relaxin, having a cup of coffee:) [08:50] what do I add to fstab to make a directory sticky? [08:50] and read/writable by all? [08:51] basically, I am creating a tmp directory [08:54] chmod -a +rwx [08:55] better double check that, i might have fumbled [08:57] |Cyb3rGh0st| (n=user@94.75.222.181) left irc: [08:59] elliot98: "mkdir /tmp ; chmod 1777 /tmp" is how the default temp directory gets created. You can repeat that for every temp directory you need [09:01] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [09:16] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-207-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] however, how do I put that into fstab syntax? [09:20] usr13_ (n=dan@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [09:20] firedix (n=firedix@host110.201-252-179.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Mithenks (n=eymerich@213.243.231.234) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:21] the tmp dir? [09:21] yes [09:21] fstab has a certain structure that is similar to, but not exactly like chmod [09:22] mode=1777 in the fstab options section [09:24] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:29] mornin peeps. [09:29] Er, /etc/fstab does NOT set ownership or permissions on unix filesystems. [09:30] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:32] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:34] im having trouble making bash prompt settings stick in xwindows. [09:36] wutup agentc0re [09:36] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:36] you mean terminal emulator settings? [09:37] which terminal emulator are you using? [09:37] rxtv for now.. i will switch to aterm later... just forget about it.. ill change it later. [09:38] Does slackpkg try to resolve dependencies? [09:38] substancev: hola. [09:38] usr13_: no. [09:38] the README says the deps [09:39] (I've only just begun to use it to install packages, previously just to update / upgrade.) [09:39] usr13_: there is no official means to automatically resolve dependencies. its called your brain and it'll stay that way for the forseeable future [09:39] at least until pat is no longer available to work on slackware [09:39] rworkman: my mistake, I have my /tmp mounted as tmpfs. [09:39] spook: That's what I though. But I just did slackpkg install tlc and three packages are selected to install. [09:40] usr13_: because they match the pattern 'tlc' [09:41] tcl, tclx, tix, tk, htsutils, and expect [09:42] usr13_: because they match the pattern 'tlc' [09:42] tcl rather [09:42] or actually [09:42] only thing I need, (apparently), is tclsh [09:42] its because tcl is a package series and you just asked it to install the series :) [09:43] has anyone setup neatx with slackware 12.2/13 ? [09:44] hackedhead: http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc [09:44] spook: O, I see. [09:44] if you install tcl install tk too at the very least [09:44] "It's a bad manner if someone enters a channel and asks "May I ask a question?" or "Can anyone help me?". Although that may be polite in normal human interaction it does not work that way on IRC. You are supposed to just ask your question right away. " [09:45] spook: i'm not actually looking for specific help at the moment, i am in fact, merely curious if anyone has done it. [09:45] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:45] usr13_: you don't use slackpkg? [09:46] spook: So it is probably a good idea to install all of them? (The whole tlc series?) [09:46] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:46] hackedhead: tias [09:46] mrpwnage: I've only just begun to use it to install packages, previously just to update / upgrade. [09:47] usr13_: if you are talking about the updates in -current, you don't really need to install the entire tcl directory, just what slackpkg upgrade-all gives you. [09:47] substancev: so what ended up being your hardware problem? [09:47] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [09:48] i think it's tk tcl, and maybe another pkg that it upgrades iirc. [09:48] mrpwnage: I'm not upgrading or updating, I'm installing tclsh. [09:48] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [09:48] usr13_: okay [09:48] usr13_: I was wondering if it was the updates you were referring to. [09:49] And am keeping to a fairly small footprint on this drive, but I (apparently) need tclsh for a web application. [09:50] usr13_: full installs are recommended unless you know what you're doing, which i dont think you do. [09:51] spook: And I suppose that REAL slackware users are born with that knowledge? :) [09:51] (If there is a point to your last statement, I missed it.) [09:51] yes, for real slackware users slackware is native and default! [09:52] heh, you guys see this; http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/07/0232243/Palm-Sued-Over-Palm-Pre-GPL-Violation ? [09:52] usr13_: its that in time sure you'll learn through trial and error mostly, why full installs are usually a lot better, and what mistakes not to make when attempting to do a minimal install [09:52] or you can just do it right the first time. [09:53] If the readome of a slackbuild says that a program is "standalone," that means I shouldn't need to install any dependencies - is that right? [09:53] mrpwnage: hard to do when you dont know what the right way is [09:54] spook: Yes, that is what I am doing now. I have a 1.16G install and am trying to put together tagfiles for it. (I've generated a set of tagfiles but am making changes to the system to acommodate installation of The Powered Access Bible and will generate a new set of tagfiles when I'm done.) [09:54] spook: true, though if you want that custom system you could find out all the deps. [09:55] usr13_: you're doing it the smart way then :) [09:55] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [09:56] spook: I think the tlc series is one I should not have skipped. ?? [09:56] its a pretty small series, iirc [09:57] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:57] spook: Very well, I will just get them all and regenerate my set of tagfiles. Thanks [09:57] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] it's 4.3M [09:59] the compressed files [10:00] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:00] you probably do not need hfsutils (137KB compressed)! [10:01] true! [10:01] allend: Thanks, I'll just uninstall it. [10:02] mrpwnage: 4.3M ? Is that the size of the tcl series? [10:02] yes [10:02] yes, the compressed txz files [10:02] mrpwnage: Where did you get that information? [10:02] du -hs tcl/ [10:03] I keep an rsync with -current on my system [10:03] or index of slackware/tcl on a mirror [10:04] 4,4M total [10:04] heh [10:05] mrpwnage, spook: You guys must have a pxe server [10:05] ? [10:05] yuppers [10:05] Yea, me too. [10:05] mrpwnage: speaking of which... [10:05] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "peace" [10:05] faster way to install. [10:06] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@20150067036.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:06] And even if the nic does not support net boot, you can just boot from the CD and when it comes time to install, choose nfs. [10:06] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-oetgffmxqnwjdcmn) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:06] yes spook ? [10:07] usr13_: Well, I don't know, I've yet to try and time it against a fast DVD drive... so... [10:07] Has anyone else? [10:08] I usually use usb. [10:08] (This machine I'm on, only has CD, (no DVD). [10:08] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) left irc: "Leaving" [10:08] I have disk one of the slackware cd set for booting then get the rest of the pkgs from a usb drive. [10:09] mrpwnage: Really? I suppose that may be faster? [10:09] yes, pretty fast. [10:10] Steaki (n=steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:10] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:10] Good idea. I've got a 4G USB stick I'm not using for much anyway, I should use it for intalls. [10:10] Nick change: adamk_ -> adamk [10:11] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [10:11] It's somewhat less than 4G.. yea probably less than 2G. Right? [10:11] hello [10:11] Tyrael_ (i=pirc30@j111014.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:11] 1.8G without kde it's like 850M [10:11] Tyrael (i=pirc30@j111014.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:11] w/o kde and kdei [10:12] i can't believe my kernel is actually compiling... this is too weird [10:12] yea, 1.4G [10:12] Mine says 1.4G [10:13] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-154.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:13] du -hs /mirror/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware [10:13] oh, okay. that may be correct. [10:14] i think I was thinking of a different distro's dvd. :D [10:14] Tyrael_ (i=pirc30@j111014.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Tyrael (i=pirc30@j111014.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:15] Hey, slackware-12.2 is 1.8G (Still have 12.2 on my server too.) [10:15] That's interesting, I would have guessed 13.0 would be larger. [10:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [10:16] mrpwnage: You must have just remembered 12.2's size? (Or do you still have 12.2 on your server too?) [10:17] Yeah, I think I was remembering 12.2. [10:17] hmmm, does lxde have a battery (life) widget/icon/whatever? [10:18] Camarade_Tux: how do you pronounce your name? [10:18] camara - day [10:19] Camarade [10:19] com rad [10:19] oh ok thanks [10:20] that's how i think of it. ;) not sure how he does. [10:21] mrpwnage: what version of slackware are you using? [10:21] drink the koolaide comarade [10:21] Masterx831: camara - de, camara - deu [10:21] Pig_Pen: we don't have kool-aid here ;-) [10:21] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:21] Masterx831: learn something everyday. ;) I use -current. [10:21] that was a metaphor [10:22] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] Pig_Pen: I know ;-) [10:23] 13.0 [10:23] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:23] mrpwnage: you're around irc much? [10:23] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:23] who wants to know? [10:24] are you a spy? [10:24] maybe [10:25] lol nah [10:25] then, what is irc? [10:25] just chatting a few words [10:25] irc - internet relay chatroom [10:25] nope, never heard of it. [10:29] Whats the difference between having the 13 repos and "current" ones? [10:29] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [10:30] current are the updates after the 13 dvd was released [10:31] ok thanks [10:31] Sadnem: 13 repos are for slackware 13, the stable branch of slackware. -current repos are for the development branch of slackware [10:31] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.18) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:32] they usually are pretty stable too, you just have to be carefull when staying with current as there are small caveats to pay attention to. :) [10:32] mrpwnage: agreed. I've also found -current to be very stable:) [10:33] Sadnem: -current is a development branch. Things sometimes break, so it is not recommended for production machines. [10:33] usr13_: slackware 13 introduced the new compression algorithms support in pkgtools, so a lot of the big packages are a lot smaller using the new compression (that's my guess at least) [10:33] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:33] usr13_: true [10:34] ok thanks guys [10:35] usr13__ (n=dan@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [10:35] heh [10:36] Oh, I guess I've been off the channel for a few minutes, (because I changed my LAN IP on this machine), but irssi just reconnected automatically... I suppose... [10:37] I don't know that irssi would do that. [10:37] yep =] [10:37] usr13_: yes, hackedhead was just saying that the smaller size of slackware 13 probably has to do a lot with the new compression method that is txz now and not tgz. [10:37] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [10:37] mrpwnage: Oh, well, I didn't even know that a new compression method was being used. [10:38] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:39] I think I also missed the answer to Sacme, [10:39] s question [10:39] but I suppose it's just that there is a different selection in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [10:39] Right? [10:40] I've never run current [10:40] and that -current is not techincally a stable tree [10:40] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:40] so caveat emptor [10:41] But is it as simple as selecting a current repo in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and then just do slackpkg update ; slackpkg upgrade-all ? [10:41] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:41] don't forget slackpkg install-new [10:42] usr13_: yes. But only use current if you are prepared for breakages and know how to get out of trouble. [10:42] allend: I know. [10:42] usr13__: and do the install in init 1 [10:42] mrpwnage: O [10:43] mrpwnage: but if I'm init 1, I'll have no network. [10:43] bring the network back up once you get to init 1 [10:43] OH, I would have to have it on a USB. [10:43] or make a local mirror with rsync first [10:43] and use that [10:43] yea, ok. [10:44] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@67.170.39.104) left irc: Connection timed out [10:44] you'll just have to bring it up manually. [10:44] oh sweet. ARMedslack is official now? and supports the sheevaplug? [10:44] that is awesome. [10:45] So you just put /mirror/slackware/current/slackware in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors ? [10:45] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [10:45] usr13__: I use /var/cache/packages which I think was actually to hold slackware if you want to download it. [10:46] mrpwnage: So there is a slackpkg command to download all? [10:46] no. [10:46] /var/cache/packages is the default download area for slackpkg [10:47] not one that I am aware of though maybe i'm wrong. I use rsync then add /var/cache/packages to my /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [10:47] usr13_ (n=dan@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:47] slackpkg download ? [10:48] slackpkg download * may work, never tried it though [10:48] laj_ (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:49] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:50] So you set current repo in mirrors, do slackpkg download, change mirror entry to /var/cache/packages, and run: slackpkg update ; slackpkg upgrade-all ; slackpkg install-new ? [10:50] that wouldn't work [10:51] but do init 1 before upgrade [10:51] ? [10:51] mrpwnage: No? [10:52] no, because slackpkg needs certain files like packages.txt to work correctly [10:52] Action: hitest is heading to work....later Slackers:) [10:52] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:52] but when you do slackpkg update, doesn't it get packages.txt ? [10:52] Steaki (n=steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:53] idk if it downloads it [10:53] usr13__: change mirror entry to a -current mirror. If you want to save the packages, change a setting in slackpg.conf [10:53] Oh, you need to change packages.txt and other stuff on the local system first.. yea. [10:53] here is what I use to keep current in /var/cache/packages [10:53] http://pastebin.com/d1af962f3 [10:53] with some excludes and some includes [10:54] you may not need/not need some things i do/don't though it can give you a basic idea. [10:55] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] I wouldn't just run that script, man rsync first, because i include some stuff in extra with that and leave out some things like kdei. [10:57] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-214-34-139.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:58] then you can set your mirror to /var/cache/packages [10:59] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.73.96) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:00] mrpwnage: I see. Very good. [11:01] I have this in crontab as root mplayer -loop 0 /home/azeotrope/Music/navy.wav and it plays only once. the loop0 should make it to run infintely [11:02] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:03] GammalSokk (n=johskar@130.84-48-46.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [11:03] or if you don't need any of the stuff in extra etc., you can do as allend said, though I have not tried that method.. [11:04] Azeotrope: trying to kill someone? :P [11:04] Azeotrope: loop works on playlists iirc [11:04] (/me already gone) [11:04] mako-dono: I think it should work actually [11:04] Azeotrope: anyway, does it work outside of cron? tried in a shell first? [11:04] Camarade_Tux: I need an alarm running on cron [11:05] Camarade_Tux: yes, works fine [11:06] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@adsl-235-213-54.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:06] Azeotrope: maybe you could use aplay? [11:08] mrpwnage: sounds good [11:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:09] Azeotrope: mpg123 -Z file.wav will play that file over and over [11:10] -Z is the random option for mpg123, though with only 1 file it will randomly play that one file in a loop. ;) [11:11] -qZ for now console output [11:11] s/now/no [11:12] mrpwnage: i tried the aplay thing, it works in the term, but in crontab it does not start [11:12] hmm, what about mpg123 -qZ file.wav [11:13] 13 18 * * * aplay /home/azeo/Music/navy.wav [11:13] mrpwnage: same for mpg123... the command works in terminal but not in crontab [11:13] Azeotrope: How about just play ? [11:13] rek (n=riccardo@95.232.187.254) joined ##slackware. [11:14] hi can i install only cd 1 ? [11:14] yes [11:14] rek: however you wont have X [11:14] what would happen? [11:14] command line only? [11:14] yup [11:15] can i do apt-get? [11:15] what all is on cd one? [11:15] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Connection timed out [11:15] ^>^ [11:15] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:15] a ap n tcl tk l i think. [11:15] how can i have x [11:15] rek: apt-get is not a part of slackware [11:15] cd 1 + 2 [11:15] period [11:16] mrpwnage: Maybe he's talking about slapt-get ? [11:16] can i have apt-get? [11:16] usr13__: same. command works in terminal but not in roots crontab [11:16] rek: no. [11:16] rek: go use ubuntu or debian [11:16] how do you get things? i think you can configure it [11:16] usr13__: either way slapt-get is not included in slackware [11:16] Azeotrope: What? [11:16] i'm already using that [11:17] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) joined ##slackware. [11:17] mrpwnage: well, yea, but you can install it, and some do. [11:17] what's the X in cd 2 ? [11:17] rek, slackpkg to get things [11:17] usr13__: it won't play in crontab [11:17] thx [11:18] Azeotrope: Does on my system, I'm pretty sure. I'll try... [11:18] slapt-get is not officially supported for a reason [11:18] what x can i find in cd 2 ? [11:18] X [11:19] xorg [11:19] lol [11:19] can i have the otherone ? [11:19] no [11:19] i don't believe that [11:20] i need xvesa [11:20] if you want xfree86 or whatever its called, try an ancient version of slackware [11:20] why would you? [11:20] due to my pc [11:20] uh? [11:21] rek: give it a try. bet you it works anyway [11:22] bet me ?don't know this expression [11:22] hey you can put xorg on a 10 dollar computer from the goodwill [11:22] ok. aplay in cron plays for 30 secs or so but the stops! wtf??? [11:22] my pc says cutoff 2000 with x.org [11:23] rek: just use xorg, it will work for you. [11:23] why? [11:23] who does it say will win the national championship in college football? [11:23] it's a pentium 2 [11:23] rek: why should that matter [11:24] Azeotrope: Play will play the whole file. (Not sure what is wrong with aplay [11:24] because every distribution i tied gave me problems.... except..those with xvesa like puppy dsl...ecc . only one worked: debian [11:25] rek: so stick with what works and stop bothering us with questions that would be easily answered by JUST GIVING IT A TRY AND FINDING OUT FOR YOURSELF. [11:25] rek, just install it or use puppy or throw the computer away. [11:25] i'm giving you the answer spook [11:25] i'm giving you the finger [11:26] what does that me? [11:26] mean* [11:26] haha [11:27] i'd just like to use a different graph server [11:27] what does that me? [11:27] mean* [11:27] so if debian worked, just keep debian. [11:27] it's a quite heavy but i wanted to try it [11:27] slack [11:28] rek: so stick with what works and stop bothering us with questions that would be easily answered by JUST GIVING IT A TRY AND FINDING OUT FOR YOURSELF. [11:28] uhuh. [11:28] spook: you drunk again? Calm down please!! [11:28] Is it true that you can not set an entry in crontab for less than 5 minutes from current time? [11:28] Or...? [11:28] alienBOB: sober and bored. [11:28] usr13__: wrong [11:28] yes be calm please... [11:28] because if you set it for the next minute or so, it doesn't seem to run. [11:28] Anything scheduled for more than a minute in future will run [11:29] usr13__: something that could probably be discovered by reading that thing that starts with an m and ends with an n [11:29] alienBOB: Ok... well, [11:29] spook: so keep quiet then [11:29] spook: Thank you :__) [11:29] michigan? [11:29] man? [11:29] rek: congrats. [11:29] thx [11:30] manual pages? [11:30] yes. [11:30] or man like a person [11:30] rek: you try to behave too. You are new here and behaving like a moron. I understand spook's reaction even though he should try not to let himself be provoked [11:31] what do you mean,am i annoying you?sorry for my english [11:31] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:31] rek: you are annoying because of the type of answers you give. [11:32] Those who find you annoying should ignore you (hint) [11:32] It could just be a "language barrier" problem though [11:32] alienBOB: i've been trying to help him (mostly) [11:32] spook: yes I know [11:32] be gentle to the n00bs [11:33] why do you think i've been so quiet lately? [11:33] I'm going to join the traffic jam now. I'll find out who to ban when I get back to the console ;-) [11:33] drive safe [11:33] Does not have to be you spook ;-) [11:33] how can one be gentle if there is not a gentle bone in their body? [11:34] somebody got blueZync running? [11:34] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A536.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:34] nvision: protip, dont ask questions like that you'll almost always just get ignored. [11:34] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: "Leaving" [11:35] nvision: if you have problems with it, ask a good question providing helpful information. if you havent tried to get it running, do so before asking questions. [11:36] Azeotrope: I've tried aplay and play and they both play through a whole wav file just fine, from crontab entry. Must be something wrong with your system. You could tail -f /var/log/messages # See if you get a clue. [11:36] Azeotrope: is the song only 30 seconds long? [11:37] I played a file that was only about 10 seconds. [11:37] spook: no, 2 sec [11:38] so it play a numbet of times [11:38] Azeotrope: So you are attempting to play the same .wav file X-number of times? [11:39] Azeotrope: How many times? [11:39] Howdy folks. Quick hardware question. I need a small PoE switch on a budget. Anyone got some good cheap suggestions? I only need to run 2 PoE WAPs from this switch, 3 tops. [11:40] small as in form factor or number of ports? [11:40] Both, but number of ports predominately. I can mount a large form-factor switch to the backboard in their telephony closet. [11:40] usr13__: no, i want it to play until i stop it. with a play in cron (as user) it play a number of times... [11:41] Alan_Hicks: interesting, lemme do some quick googling [11:42] Azeotrope: What command are you using? [11:43] Azeotrope: I think the default is to only play the file once. [11:44] aplay file.wav ; aplay file.wav ; aplay file.wav #To play 3 times [11:44] Azeotrope: maybe creating a sh file with your commands in it then having cron execute the file would work? [11:44] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [11:45] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-22-62.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Azeotrope: mrpwnage is correct, you should just write a script. [11:47] Alan_Hicks: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/419886.html [11:48] rek (n=riccardo@95.232.187.254) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:48] spook: That's gonna be too much money. [11:49] i dont think you're going to find small POE kit [11:49] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [11:49] not_toast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Spiegel (n=cb@ip-166-187.interbild.net) joined ##slackware. [11:50] seem the problems with my old dell were hardware related [11:50] i bought a new mobo installed it its working great now [11:51] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:51] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [11:51] new mobo only cost 19.99 free shippiong on ebay too [11:51] not_toast: grats. [11:52] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:57] what is the nick our dear channel search engine? [11:58] elliot98: read that sentence again [11:58] btw screen, i dont appreciate you being a know-it-all. i KNOW this is window 2, i pressed the wrong key, get off my back already [11:58] if I need to find a specific channel in freenode, how do I it? [11:59] elliot98: /list term [11:59] I got it...it's alis [12:00] not_toast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) left ##slackware. [12:00] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:93) joined ##slackware. [12:03] elliot98 (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:03] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-109-66-47-199.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [12:05] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[12:22] well seems like my laptop is prone to segfaulting... thus i can't compile the latest kernel [12:22] segfaulting, you mean kernel panic? [12:22] no. [12:22] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F71CE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] whats segfaulting? gcc? [12:22] i can still function.. just won't compile [12:22] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [12:23] randomlly errors out with internel segment fault or something similar [12:23] get a pastebin of the exact message [12:23] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@fw.dcc.ufba.br) joined ##slackware. [12:23] its cool ... i give up.. i know how to compile a kernel... ive been trying on this laptop forever.. with all the info i have gathered... im good [12:24] do a memtest86 [12:24] i need to do ... exactly [12:24] i need a usb setup [12:24] its strange.. cause i tried compiling with one stick of mem [12:24] then the other [12:24] swapped banks [12:24] do a memtest86 :) [12:25] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:26] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:26] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) joined ##slackware. [12:26] hi, i have a simple question, how to find out which driver for video im using? [12:26] Slackware64 13.0 [12:27] fatherx: video capture? graphics? frame buffer? [12:27] kernel module? xwindows module? [12:27] fatherx, For Xorg, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what driver is being used. [12:28] thank you, is the Xorg [12:30] it should be the fglrxdrm if am using and ATI card right? [12:30] If you've installed fglrx. [12:30] And, of course, if your card is supported by fglrx. [12:31] You will see lines that start (II) FGLRX(0) [12:34] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] fatherx: try xvinfo [12:35] robertf (n=frederic@vedra.tuxonet.be) left irc: "leaving" [12:36] if i get (II) RADEON(0) what it means? [12:36] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] wait xvinfo doesnt display driver details [12:36] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.98.226) joined ##slackware. [12:36] just adapter / display info [12:36] xsamurai, i tried but got x-video extension version 2.2 and no adapter [12:36] ok [12:37] check the logs as adamk mentioned [12:37] ok, I checked and have (II) RADEON(0) [12:37] what it means? [12:37] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-86.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [12:37] generic drivers? [12:37] fatherx, You are using the open source radeon driver. [12:38] fatherx, What video card do you have? [12:38] oh ok [12:38] giuppy (n=giuppy@host54-162-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:38] (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "Coolbits" "1" [12:38] The cooling fan does not work with 2.6.31.6 on my Acer Aspire 5315 with Slack 13. Config -> http://pastebin.com/d3e866539 Anyone has a idea why? [12:39] slackware 13 comes with 2.6.29.7 [12:39] no .6 ? [12:39] or .6 [12:39] ATI x400 [12:39] merciful: and does it work with 2.6.29.6? [12:40] Camarade_Tux: Yes, and I used the config from 2.6.29.6-huge-smp as a starting point [12:40] fatherx, You will have to use the open source drivers with that video card. [12:41] merciful: is there any particular reason you are using 2.6.31.6? [12:41] merciful: unless you misconfigure something, don't use 2.6.31 then, and maybe try 2.6.32 [12:41] Camarade_Tux: :-), nice solution [12:41] xP [12:42] spook: Just testing. [12:42] merciful: may i humbly suggest sticking with what works? [12:42] spook: look like I have to. [12:43] whats -current's kernel at? [12:43] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:43] 2.6.32 [12:43] same I think [12:43] spook: I'm try this for almost a day now. [12:43] with another one in testing [12:44] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:44] 2.6.30.5 is in testing [12:44] where can I get pastebinit for slackware? [12:45] pastebin [12:45] .com [12:45] checked slackbuilds.org [12:45] .ca [12:45] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] anyone know? [12:45] spook: yes [12:45] didn't see it there. [12:46] asamoah (n=caio@200.2.124.206) joined ##slackware. [12:46] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@adsl-235-213-54.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] usr13__, It's just a simple python script: http://www.stgraber.org/category/pastebinit [12:46] whats pastebinit [12:46] substancev, It's just a simple python script :-) [12:47] substancev, It lets you upload files to pastebin services without a web browser. [12:47] Great if you're stuck at a console. [12:47] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:47] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.84.239) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:47] Alan Cox is a very funny guy. [12:47] Current kernel on ftp.slackware is 2.6.29.6 [12:48] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [12:48] merciful: yes we worked that out 5 minutes ago :P [12:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Alan Cox Rocks! [12:50] jomo (n=mich@p3EE20AE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:51] adamk_: Tnx [12:51] got it [12:52] was googling all over and couldn't seem to find it. [12:53] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:56] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.110.67) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Someone told me i could compile a kernel for this laptop from another machine [12:56] substancev: sure could [12:57] the one file in /boot lets say... bzImage just copy it over right...? or is there more involved [12:58] kernel modules too [12:58] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:58] yeah you need the modules [12:58] /lib/modiles/KERNEL ? [12:58] yuppers [12:58] does make modules_install support DESTDIR or INSTALL_ROOT ? [12:58] or INSTALL_PREFIX ? [12:59] ugh... [12:59] i never did it that way with the kernel source, i just did the make modules_install [12:59] rain is wack... people don't know how to drive [12:59] Necos: lol i love the rain [12:59] astroplane when you hit water [13:00] very gothic [13:00] well, in LA... [13:01] Pig_Pen: hydroplane? [13:01] Necos: its been awhile , we need it [13:01] you think rain is bad, try driving on black ice (black ice is when snow or ice melted and then re-froze on the road and you can not see it because it is clear and smooth [13:01] yeah, hydroplane [13:01] lol hydroplane [13:01] Pig_Pen: ppl in LA die with 5 +/- change in weather , omg like its hot "dead" and omg its cold "dead" [13:01] fuck that shit [13:02] s/5/5%/ [13:02] in australia we get both extremes, we survive anything [13:02] yeah, my mom was born & raised in Baldwin Park calif. and she can not stand the cold, [13:02] xsamurai, where you at? :P [13:03] 273K? no problem. 320L [13:03] 273K? no problem. 320K? no problem. [13:03] Necos: currently in SD but from Southbay [13:03] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:04] South bay [13:04] i used to live in Santee calif until 1980 then moved to oklahoma [13:04] oh [13:04] usr13__ (n=dan@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [13:04] you're only 2 hrs away [13:05] Necos: where do you live ? [13:05] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [13:05] jeev always talkin shit, koreatown [13:05] usr13_ (n=dan@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:05] laj_ (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:06] i live ~1mi away from the LG Wiltern [13:06] ktown is about 30 - 40 minutes away [13:07] jeev is an undercover ubuntu user [13:07] and if you know where la high is, that's where i work :P [13:07] thats hell specially during traffic hours [13:07] who you tellin? [13:07] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-240-208.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:08] i hate that whole route as much as when i use to work in santa monica [13:08] i live 2mi away from work and it still takes me 1/2 an hr to get here in the morning :P [13:08] bite me [13:09] no thanks [13:09] Necos: take a scooter [13:09] in the rain, no thanks lol [13:09] i'd rather have my testicular knawwed off by possums while skunks spray me in bukkake fashion than use any linux other than slackware [13:09] i used to drive an 18 wheeler and picked up produce (vegetables) all over calif, from Salanis south to Bakersfield, and many places in between [13:09] busses are brutal here [13:09] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:09] hauled em east to Georga & the Carolinas [13:09] heh, what happened now jeev? [13:10] Pig_Pen, respectable job indeed... but didn't your ass hurt? [13:10] it got old [13:10] most annoying job ever [13:10] im gunna recompile my working kernel [13:10] Salinas* [13:10] Pig_Pen: interesting , big rig drivers have the best parking skills [13:10] Pig_Pen: I used to pull a reefer [13:11] lol true xsamurai [13:11] Pig_Pen: Western half. [13:11] oh jeev, i updated my BBM over the weekend... interesting [13:11] cool [13:11] 5 ? [13:11] yeah [13:11] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@adsl-235-213-54.mco.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:11] i think i'm gonna install BB OS 5 after finals for kicks [13:12] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-65-161.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65211cf.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Pig_Pen: Just brokered loads... [13:12] Nick change: nessundorma_ -> nessundorma [13:12] i did it for about 5 years, and one day i got up out of bed and said, "i am not doing this anymore" and quit and got a job driving a cement mixer truck so i could get home every day [13:12] anyone use orbitz to buy tickets before [13:12] and that question wasn't directed to Pig_Pen because he's a redneck :) he doesn't leave the US [13:12] >.<; [13:13] never used orbitz [13:13] only took me about a year and a half. [13:13] hauling produce you must have a reefer or your vegetables would be mush before you got to your destination [13:13] I just quit [13:13] lol [13:13] jeev: is gonna go to bangkok :o [13:13] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] don't bring back any gifts :P [13:13] yea right [13:14] Pig_Pen: Sometimes it was a pretty good job, sometimes not so good. [13:14] i'm thinking of installing GSB... i must be going insane [13:14] mostly not so good. [13:15] deco: is he getting a sex change ? [13:15] xsamurai: i thought he did already [13:15] :o [13:15] lol [13:15] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [13:15] deco: i heard it didnt go so well, hence his frustration [13:15] you know what they say when you go sideways through the metal detector in hong kong... [13:15] lol insurance papers are so funny when they talk about loss of limbs and like, has to be 4 of more fingers, starting at the knuckles [13:15] you're going to bangkok [13:15] wow it's so funny [13:16] spook, that just sounds painful... [13:16] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.103.76) joined ##slackware. [13:17] I lost the last joint of my right hand's little finger in a jointer. Didn't hurt much. [13:17] i need to sync my damn blackberry, stupid akonadi lol [13:17] Necos: my iphone is always synced with my google contacts and calendar [13:18] i'm actually considering installing GSB to use Evolution [13:18] since my sync tools use opensync (and akonadi is still unusable) [13:19] spook, i want to be able to backup my contacts w/o using google [13:19] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Necos: Export [13:19] to file [13:20] oh.. from blackberry. sorry, Was thinkging of gmail. [13:21] sadly, i'm learning c++ to play with akonadi and opensync... again, insanity :) [13:21] firedix (n=firedix@host110.201-252-179.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [13:22] Necos: heh. [13:22] Necos: start by throwing away your c++ book [13:22] apparently all the ports on my iphone are closed [13:22] sleep time [13:23] spook: is your iphone unlocked so you can use other providers besides AT&T? [13:23] Pig_Pen: dont know what to start correcting there. [13:23] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:23] xsamurai, lol why? :P [13:23] hey nix_chix0r :) [13:23] its pretend to be a time traveller day [13:23] whatever they call that, jailbreak? [13:24] Action: nix_chix0r groan [13:24] o_o [13:24] yeah, they have a new name for the 3gs version [13:24] nix_chix0r, still writing the book in the treehouse? [13:24] recooping from this weekend [13:25] lol that kinda weekend, eh? [13:25] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FE547.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] and some how i still ended iup in the dungeon [13:25] Necos, yeah [13:25] went to a party on sat [13:25] 1bottle hypnotic, 4yag bombs, 20 jello shots, and a beer [13:25] i don't know how i was standing [13:25] why the beer? [13:25] :) [13:26] i duno it was something to clear the pallet perhaps [13:26] killians is good [13:26] how many braincells left? [13:26] gargle with vodka [13:26] anybody running xen on kernel > 2.6.24 with pv_ops in a production environment ? [13:26] i think beer is the only thing i recognized in that whole sentence [13:27] haldir: same here :P [13:27] Necos, enough to work on a few racks today [13:27] Camarade_Tux, must be an young whippersnapper type thing [13:27] my buddy is moving so i got to clean him out on some stuff well not just some a lot of tuff [13:27] hehe [13:28] i had a mini fridge as a passenger in my car on the way home, a mac, massive kvm switch few racks for servers, books and morestuffs [13:28] clean him out? sounds like he had quite the alcohol stash [13:28] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:28] llooted him [13:28] lol [13:29] thought about driving in carpool lane with mini fridge as my passsenger but i figured i'd get busted [13:29] wait a minute [13:29] looks like my kernel is compiling [13:29] but stock kernel [13:29] just put a hat on top of the fridge [13:29] lol [13:30] haldir: I'm 21! I'm young! [13:30] the perk of the whole weekend is that i was baby free the whole time and got to eat at Sonic, but i threw it up afterwards :( [13:30] nix_chix0r, and where was the hubby in all of this? surely he didn't let ya drink alone [13:30] lol nix_chix0r [13:30] Necos, he didnt want to go [13:30] so i went by myself [13:30] booooo! [13:30] so he was watching the kid, eh? [13:31] yeah and he cleaned the house and painted some more and did like 10 loads of laundry to keep himself busy but he goes. man every time i don't go with you the party happens i must be hella boring [13:31] nvision (n=nvision@e179130137.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:32] hide him in the trunk of your car and let him out once the party starts [13:32] hahahahaha [13:32] no wai [13:33] who wants a downer:P [13:33] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui dentista" [13:33] poor nix_chix0r are you married to a buzz killington ? [13:33] wtf [13:33] this compile is completing [13:33] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:3b) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Pig_Pen, sometimes [13:33] nix_chix0r, and ya love 'em anyway? >.<; [13:33] substancev, why are you so shocked that it's compiling [13:34] Necos, of course, just cause he's not a party animal it's all good [13:34] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.110.67) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:34] yeah, just think substancev that entire OS was made that way [13:34] i like to chill at home, just wanted a weekend to party it up with out a kid [13:34] no no.. [13:34] i mean ive had nothing but fault errors compile issues... segfaults... all pointing to hardware problems [13:34] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:35] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:35] thats with 2.6.3x now im test compiling my stock slack13 kenrel and no error [13:35] so far [13:35] it might be time to get a new PC [13:35] its my laptop [13:35] oh oh... [13:35] then a new laptop [13:35] yeah, you gotta cut loose every once in a while nix_chix0r :) [13:36] getting warnins.. [13:36] Necos, just next time it wont be with 20 jello shots and other stuff [13:36] deprecated warnings on kernel compile... are they serious [13:36] warnings are not so bad, when it stops mid-compile with errors is when you worry [13:36] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:37] deprecated warnings just mean something is deprecated. [13:37] lol nix_chix0r, yeah, i don't like throwing up drunk... but this russian woman i've been talking too is a very big drinker... i think i'll have to go there a couple of times lol [13:37] the kernel is very good code so it usually compiles unless your OS/distro is complete crap [13:37] A is A and all that. [13:37] haha yeahhh Necos ! [13:37] go get her;) [13:37] i've never been throwing up drunk... but i've been damn close [13:38] 2 40s, and 11 shots of johny walker black... yeah... lol [13:38] that had to be the first time i threw up in that type of situation [13:38] damn crazy korean friend of mine... i'm never going drinking with his ass again lol [13:40] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:41] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:41] she's a hottie too, but she thinks she's fat... i'm like hell, curves never looked that good on a woman :D [13:41] damn straight [13:41] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:93) left irc: No route to host [13:42] Necos: Tell her that a new scientific study suggests that regular sex is key to losing weight. [13:42] Alan_Hicks, already did ;) [13:42] Necos: talk is cheap, buy a Gucci purse if you want some korean love [13:43] Tell her it was leaked by a hacker who attacked the CRU (Coitus Research Center) in the UK. [13:43] but she looks fuckin great in her curves :) [13:43] she ain't fat by any means [13:43] lol [13:44] I agree. Can't have no woman got chicken legs. [13:44] so what are deprecated warnings in a kernel compile [13:44] Cowboys like fat calves. [13:44] hahaha [13:44] substancev, stuff that, when you compile, will nag you about it possibly being depreciated [13:44] i like curvatious women, those skinny stick women look too much like a teenage boy [13:44] Pig_Pen, exactly... [13:44] when you compile the kernel * [13:45] thrice`: ok.. this is soo weird.. [13:45] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:45] o'rly? [13:45] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [13:46] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [13:46] proportion is good on a woman :) and curves just make it all the better... [13:46] lol xsamurai, did you see, there's a flood warning in effect now [13:46] only changes i made was using xfce as a WM and compiling my stock kernel [13:47] Necos: really , hahaha la is comedy [13:47] it's a coastal flood warning actually :P [13:48] fatmike666 (n=vhprice@187.4.13.35) joined ##slackware. [13:48] i'm sure i'm gonna start getting calls about internet outages across campus because of faulty wiring [13:48] http://www.weather.com/weather/local/90019?lswe=90019&from=searchbox_localwx [13:48] Afternoon folks... May someone help whith an issue about Samba? [13:48] what did you break fatmike666? :P [13:48] as opposed to 2.6.3x and using fluxbox.. i know the wm doesn't mean shit [13:49] substancev: yes it does, you look cooler compiling your kernel on fluxbox then on any other wm [13:49] Necos, I change my ethernet cards to gigabit and the transfer in ftp is very fast, but in samba its very slow... [13:49] hmmm, according to the flood warning, surfers are gonna be happy as hell [13:49] i always use flux [13:49] and ur right :) [13:50] my brother is in Hawaii , just told me theres 50 foot waves at north shore [13:50] fatmike666, have you set all of the tcp options? [13:50] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [13:50] im guessing most surfers are out sick today [13:50] Necos, what do you mean? [13:50] they called in _sick_at_work_ [13:51] pastebin your smb.conf [13:51] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:3b) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:51] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:3b) joined ##slackware. [13:51] lol [13:52] Necos, you mean socket options? [13:52] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] Should I take my test today [13:53] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:53] yeah fatmike666 [13:53] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: No route to host [13:53] beatzz: is it the day ? [13:53] it could be [13:54] im on the phone right now [13:54] beatzz: do you feel confident ? [13:54] i feel like if i wait longer i will go stale [13:54] oh [13:54] i just finished my 2nd round with the book [13:54] lol [13:54] Axius (n=fim@92.84.7.111) joined ##slackware. [13:54] i have notes i could review up to the front door of the testing [13:54] stale? get some preservatives... [13:54] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [13:55] beatzz: oh btw i got the old study book thingy you had it's crap [13:55] ive read a 1050 page book twice in a row [13:55] O_O [13:55] fatmike666 (n=vhprice@187.4.13.35) left ##slackware. [13:55] beatzz: the application question lol [13:55] i know its crap [13:55] it was true! [13:55] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.73.188) joined ##slackware. [13:55] oh its filled with those [13:55] to the brim [13:55] beatzz: yeah you could have gotten it for free [13:56] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.54.150) left irc: "Leaving" [13:57] ok i picked saturday [13:57] give me a few days to review at least. [13:57] cool [13:58] hmmmm, if i wanna upgrade to current using slackpkg, od i need to telinit 1 at some point? [13:58] ? [13:58] fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge [13:58] dont you just change ur mirror /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [13:58] ? [13:58] it failed [13:58] Necos: nah [13:58] i give up [13:58] and then udate/upgrade-all/install-new [13:59] substancev: dont give up!!!! [13:59] oh... hmmm... then again, it's gonna kill all my kde custom packs :( [13:59] Necos: going from what to current ? [13:59] 13.0 [14:00] i need to reboot make sure i didn't screwup my sysklogd... i know i know... sounds perposturous [14:00] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:00] ah that should be fine lass , dont know about kde though [14:00] brb tho, gotta move my car [14:01] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.54.150) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Nick change: nessundorma_ -> nessundorma [14:06] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. 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[14:17] only happens after i attempt to compile kernel [14:18] i need to fieldgoal this laptop on to the street [14:18] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:18] asamoah_ (n=caio@200.2.124.206) joined ##slackware. [14:19] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:20] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:24] :-( it is no longer snowing [14:24] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:25] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:26] correcaminos__ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [14:26] pardon the french, but fuck yes my unemployment went through finally [14:27] Spiegel (n=cb@ip-166-187.interbild.net) left irc: [14:28] hmmmm, french, what? [14:29] btw, for the first one who sees macavity: tell him that he sucks :P [14:29] je ne comprens pas "fuck" [14:29] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Camarade_Tux, he does not already understand this ;-) [14:30] asamoah (n=caio@200.2.124.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:30] haldir, sorry [14:32] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] Camarade_Tux: lol, it's an expression here, "excuse my french" = "excuse my language" when using bad words. [14:35] oh, I remember now :P [14:35] Action: Camarade_Tux is currently watchin Far Cry the film :P [14:35] fire|bird: i wonder how the expression came about, since French is considered the language of loooove [14:35] xsamurai: yeah, I've wondered that too. [14:36] metaphor [14:36] yeah, but why French, why not, "excuse my British" or something? :P [14:36] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.64.221) joined ##slackware. [14:36] it onlden days, things french were considered obcene [14:36] excuse my bat guano [14:36] because english ain't a proper language :) [14:36] Pig_Pen: haha [14:37] and often racy, or sexually charged things were called french: french kiss, french novel, etc [14:38] Camarade_Tux: fo shizzle [14:38] we should still use the "original language" we should be grunting like cavemen [14:38] grunting hmmmm [14:38] some people still use that [14:39] especially in bed [14:39] i was just pardoning myself for those who would take offense to my excitement;p [14:39] What does one need to program in php on slack? [14:39] Axius_: php [14:39] xsamurai: plaît-il? [14:39] and I was just joshing you nix_chix0r [14:39] Axius_: apache [14:39] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] s/\?/ ?/ [14:39] josshing me [14:39] bahhhhhhhh [14:40] deco: thanks [14:40] Axius_: don't thank me actually [14:40] it would take a heck of a lot more than the F word to offend me [14:40] what should i eat for lunch [14:40] Camarade_Tux: no sabes senior [14:40] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] Axius_: it's really simple logic [14:40] something french peut etre [14:40] Axius_: if you want to program in php ... get php.. [14:40] Axius_: if you want to program in python .. get python [14:40] nix_chix0r: french fries [14:41] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:41] ooooh [14:41] french fries and what [14:41] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:41] frittes met mayonaise? [14:41] is anyone here running slack on an Eee ? [14:41] blech, not sure how you people eat may on fries [14:41] i could be wrong but the F word is an acronym for: "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" [14:42] php requies apache? [14:42] nix_chix0r: chili cheese french fries sound good about right now [14:42] Is anyone in here using virtualbox? [14:42] nix_chix0r: been to belgium or holland in the past? [14:42] haldir, it's a european thing [14:42] i lived in belgium [14:42] Ah figures ;-) [14:43] we had a gazillion diff mayo sauce for frittes [14:43] mmmmm [14:43] but chili cheese fries now that could happen i think i have some stuff [14:43] I need to figure out why my ssd is showing up as hdc1 and people claim it should be sda1 [14:43] fries demand ketchup [14:43] Soul_keeper: What version of Slackware? [14:44] Alan_Hicks, 12.0 [14:44] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Connection timed out [14:44] Axius_: you can use any webserver you like [14:44] ketchup sucks, kills food [14:44] Hmm... that's odd... [14:44] a foot long conie with chili & onions :p~ [14:44] Soul_keeper: I'm not familiar with these Eee, but do you possibly have the BIOS setup to treat the SATA drive as an IDE drive? [14:44] hmmm frittes? [14:44] Alan_Hicks, the sdhc drive and usb drives show up as sdx [14:45] sdhc? [14:45] card reader [14:45] Pig_Pen: .... thanks im starving already [14:46] Soul_keeper: Then I repeat my question. Is your BIOS/CMOS *possibly* setup to treat the hard drive as an IDE drive? [14:46] Nick change: uva_ -> uva [14:46] i'm wanting to upgrade the kernel on this Eee, but it's giving me problems. I guess because it wants sdx on the new on instead of hdx [14:46] Nick change: uva -> uva_ [14:46] Alan_Hicks, that's not even possible [14:46] Soul_keeper: I would just install 13.0 myself. [14:47] Soul_keeper: Why is it not possible? CMOS not have settings for such? [14:47] I don't want to upgrade anything really, just the network driver [14:47] Alan_Hicks, no they don't [14:47] Soul_keeper: i suggest you check your bios as Alan_Hicks mentioned [14:47] Soul_keeper: Ok, what does lspci -v tell you? Pastebin that please. [14:48] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:48] should i add my user to sudoers file? [14:48] and how do i do that? [14:49] visudo, and only if you want to use sudo [14:50] Axius (n=fim@92.84.7.111) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:51] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [14:51] yes Necos [14:51] I want to use sudo so I don't have to logout from my user and login as root [14:52] Azeotrope: so why don't you just run 'su -'? [14:52] Azeotrope: You can also use "su" or "su -" for that. [14:52] Azeotrope: sudo will let users have limited root privilages without requiring them to know root's password. [14:53] Newbie, didn't know. Thanks! [14:53] Nothing wrong with not knowing. [14:53] Alan_Hicks, http://70.166.30.10/lspci.txt [14:53] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [14:54] where is the file that has the host name? i want to change darkstart [14:54] Azeotrope: grep 'darkstar' /etc/* [14:55] or just rerun the netconfig setup in pkgtool [14:55] vim /etc/HOSTNAME vim /etc/hosts [14:56] Soul_keeper: Hmm.... [14:56] Soul_keeper: You're trying to upgrade the entire kernel, right? [14:57] Alan_Hicks, yes [14:57] Soul_keeper: From what kernel to what kernel? [14:58] 2.6.25 to 2.6.32 [14:58] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [14:58] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [14:58] the .25 kernel has no drivers for the network card [14:58] Hmm... I think you have to upgrade some userspace stuff to do that as well. udev or some such. I don't recall though. [14:58] it had to be patched over a year or two ago ... and that driver version is missing certain features [14:59] Soul_keeper: wireless card? [14:59] Alan_Hicks, i'd love to know which stuff needs updating, i'm more concerned with learning than making this work per say [14:59] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.18) left irc: [14:59] Alan_Hicks, 10/100 wired [14:59] wow... [15:00] I'm really not sure. I don't follow the kernel all that closely; never really did. [15:00] the laptop came out like 1 month before slack 12.0 came out if I remember right [15:00] well looks like it's leftover spagetti lunch day [15:00] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] too hungry to heat the oven for fries [15:00] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-86.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] nix_chix0r, just add some ricotta and it will be like a new meal [15:01] mmmm mmmm [15:01] good ideas [15:02] glad to help. i like food way too much [15:02] Soul_keeper: I would google for a kernel/udev upgrade guide or check out kernel newbies or other such sites to make sure there aren't any additional things to worry about. [15:03] I do know that udev has seen quite a few changes between 13.0 and 12.0. [15:03] Nick change: cuba33ci -> cuba33ci_ [15:03] Alan_Hicks, last time I checked kernelnewbies was like 5yrs ago, do they still remain idle and not speak for months at a time ? [15:03] Nick change: cuba33ci_ -> cuba33ci [15:03] sakura_ (n=sakura@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:03] I have no idea. [15:03] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:04] Like I said, I don't follow the kernel closely. [15:04] x-ip (n=sakura-s@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Client Quit [15:05] http://www.anime-planet.com/users/Necos lol [15:05] flambers: opa [15:06] PiterPunk: Howdy. [15:07] correcaminos__ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:07] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [15:07] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.64.221) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:07] total episodes: 4119 >.<; [15:07] Necos: heh i read that as animal planet :P [15:08] Is there a software midi synthesizer in Slackware 13? [15:08] Alan_Hicks: Hi! [15:08] i havent watched nearly enough anime [15:08] deco, you dingdong >.> [15:08] PiterPunk: You know if udev must be upgraded on Slackware 12.0 if you want to run kernel 2.6.32? Currently running 2.6.25. [15:08] correcaminos__ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) joined ##slackware. [15:09] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:09] any gotchas i should worry about before upgrading to current? [15:10] Alan_Hicks: I don't know. Usually the dependencies are in other way, udev X needs kernel i.j.k [15:10] I cannot open any .mid file. If I try it with xine, it says no demuxer plugin found. [15:10] Necos: nah, just do what the man page slackpkg says [15:10] the Far Cry film is really bad :) [15:10] PiterPunk: Thanks. [15:10] Tirili, have you tried amidi? [15:10] Soul_keeper: You may be having a different problem than I suspected. [15:11] no [15:12] i want to install compiz on 13 [15:12] Alan_Hicks, you might be right, I have no tmpfs setup .... according to http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=blob;hb=HEAD;f=README I should [15:12] Azeotrope: it's already on 13 [15:12] compiz alone [15:13] Soul_keeper: Gimme a second and let's start over from scratch, alright? [15:14] bash-3.1$ amidi MUSIC1.MID [15:14] MUSIC1.MID is not an option. [15:14] The man says I have to try it with aplaymidi. [15:15] yeah, my bad, mistyped [15:15] But then I have specify a "port". I don't know, if it is really what I want to. [15:15] Alan_Hicks, i'm recompiling now to attempt with tmpfs which should remove the countless warnings during boot at the very least [15:15] or you could try audacious lol [15:16] hmmm [15:16] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:16] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:16] Alan_Hicks, I guess I should have distcc setup on this thing :( takes forever on an Eee [15:17] hiya Soul_keeper long time since i seen you around :) [15:17] aplaymidi ftw [15:17] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:17] Pig_Pen, I've been hiding :) [15:18] This happen when I type in audacious MUSIC1.MID [15:18] alright [15:18] http://pastebin.com/m71e057e8 [15:18] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:18] NaCl: ok. i'll try to find it [15:19] Azeotrope: compiz-fusion is not, though [15:20] Cibbao (n=Cibbao@151.57.28.122) joined ##slackware. [15:20] hi all [15:20] i have a problem installing slack, anyone can help me? [15:21] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:21] Cibbao (n=Cibbao@151.57.28.122) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:22] NaCl: well i want fusion... [15:22] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-90-254.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [15:23] So on slackware i have to compile from source... [15:24] no automatic updates in slack... [15:25] hmmm, there's no dry-run for slackpkg lol [15:25] man slackpkg Azeotrope [15:26] init[0] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [15:26] security updates and all other crazyness rolled into one [15:26] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "out" [15:27] hmm, still requesting a port for the midi... [15:27] Guest24721 (n=[A]kber@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Necos: slackpkg only grabs stuff from the official repo [15:28] sbopkg then, sheesh :P [15:28] I am ubuntu user [15:28] slackworld is new to me [15:28] different world [15:29] yes [15:29] onlu 0 ands 1 [15:29] blast from the past :) [15:29] slackworld is MUCH better :) [15:29] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Necos: compiz-fusion isn't in SBo for 13.0. :P [15:30] no wars, peace between users, trojan and virus-free environment [15:30] blah... who wants compiz-fusion anyway? you're gonna have to install gnome stuffs anyway [15:31] NaCl: So I have to compile the source from the official address? [15:31] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:31] Azeotrope: yes [15:31] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Necos: I like the effects from fusion [15:31] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [15:31] if you want compiz-fusion et al, look at gnomeslackbuild.org [15:33] plain fusion has windows wobbling, the extended cube (v desktops in a row) ? [15:33] Nick change: pragma_ -> p [15:33] kwin can do that in KDE if you want to use KDE [15:33] Nick change: p -> pragma_ [15:33] elliot98 (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [15:35] NaCl: I will use kde [15:35] jomo (n=mich@p3EE20AE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [15:35] for the moment, my biggest problem is the network [15:35] i only hav lo [15:35] *have [15:35] KDE 4's kwin has compoisiting built in. [15:36] how do i add eth0 or eth1? [15:37] lspci first and find out what network cards you hvae [15:37] *have [15:37] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [15:38] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.103.76) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:38] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-240-208.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [15:38] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "lalala caindo fora!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [15:38] Necos: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 40) [15:39] cool, i'm setting up manually :D [15:39] Zordrak: got a driver from the realtek website for that card series (i hope) will see wednesday [15:39] The intefaces should be automagically detected, assuming that you have drivers for them. [15:40] won't wait for 2.6.33 to support my onboard soundcard, will get something else, can anyone recommend a good one with midi synth device? [15:40] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [15:40] NaCl: So I don't have drivers... [15:41] so i wont need timidity for my retro games... [15:41] Azeotrope: you did check the interfaces as root, right? [15:41] yes [15:41] with su [15:42] I thought dosbox could play DOOM's midi without the need for timidity... but I'd have to check [15:42] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:57] cmeow (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Connection timed out [15:58] Necos: testing directory [15:58] Necos: gcc 4.4.2 is in there [15:59] oh hell no... 4.4 scares me :P [15:59] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65211cf.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Necos: why lol [15:59] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [16:01] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:01] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird back [16:02] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] :) [16:02] nvision (n=nvision@e179130137.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] heya Necos :) [16:02] 'cause 4.4 is evil, like BET :P [16:02] ah, that episode of the boondocks was great :) [16:03] upgrading to -current [16:03] substancev (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] wut up crew [16:03] i really should have just skipped all the kde stuff (since i'm going to recompile it anyway) [16:04] question:: why does slack13 use sysklogd-1.4.1 and not 1.5 [16:04] why does it matter? [16:04] i had to compile 1.5 because i was getting stuck at boot with 1.4.1 and now im able to log in [16:04] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) joined ##slackware. [16:04] i think my system is broken [16:04] i think you broke your system [16:04] i know it has nothing to do with 1.5 [16:04] just curious if there was a reason for 1.4.1 running instead [16:05] Necos: ii think your bright. [16:05] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:3b) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:05] 1 Mb/s off vt mirrors... yummy! [16:06] Morbidawn (n=stormbla@89.47.105.62) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:06] Necos: mirror it locally. [16:06] Then your updates will be even faster. :P [16:06] lol [16:06] freefox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [16:06] I do that because I have two machines that run Slack. [16:07] i'm just upgrading my desktop box atm [16:07] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.188.154) joined ##slackware. [16:09] heh, it just dawned on me that i should make keybindings in openbox for konq or dolphin >.> [16:10] zux (n=zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [16:10] zux_ (n=zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [16:13] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:13] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [16:14] hmmm, new konq looks interesting [16:15] hey fire|bird, what the hell is phonon? [16:15] KDE's multimedia interface [16:16] Necos: KDE's audio stuff, interfaces with gstreamer, etc. [16:16] Necos: I have kde 4.3.80 on the laptop :D [16:20] hi [16:20] geez .80? [16:21] oh wow, heh, samba 3.4.2 [16:21] freefox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:21] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [16:22] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65211cf.cns.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:22] yay seamonkey-2.0 lol [16:23] Necos: are you just looking at the patches / for the first time lol :P [16:24] i've been running stock 13.0 :P [16:24] large delta between stock and -current [16:25] Necos: they are patches to 13 [16:25] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.85.204) joined ##slackware. [16:25] same difference [16:26] and upgrade-all is done :) [16:26] that was painless [16:26] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:26] zux_ (n=zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:27] JK3MP (n=jkemp@174-158-118-170.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] brb [16:28] Can I run Pidgin on KDE in slackware? [16:29] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] no :) [16:29] do what you wnt; test it. [16:29] OT: How in the hell does one know what video card is better than another? [16:29] good n00b [16:29] hear-say [16:29] alan and google the forums on the card [16:29] but that's still hear-say [16:29] In my day it was easy! You had G1, G2, G3, G4. It was straight linear with no deviations! [16:30] pff; if you want easy, use paper. :) [16:30] Now you've got Geforce9xxx series and Geforce7xxx series all being sold at the same time for the same pricepoint. [16:30] ask oem [16:31] And Lord help you if all you know is "This one has 2^n RAM on it, 'cause they all do!" [16:31] heh [16:31] the bigger the card the more extra super power it has ! [16:32] the external power connectors mean they are turbo charged :) [16:33] Alan_Hicks: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/NVidia_Cards [16:33] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:34] http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm I love this linke :) [16:34] link* [16:34] mag0o: Thanks, but that doesn't tell me the first damn thing I need to know in order to figure out what some kid needs to play Windows games. [16:34] Alan_Hicks: Depends on the games as much as the video card :-) [16:34] ahh, see, windows games weren't mentioned :) [16:35] This blows. [16:35] You really need to read up on the game requirements and multiple reviews on the video cards. [16:35] /j #wow and ask who has the best vido card and use that one [16:35] Boss says, "I wanna buy my grandson a new video card for Christmas. Get me one better than what he's got now." [16:35] most windows will says system requirements iirc [16:35] mag0o: I've also got a budget, but that ain't a half bad idea. :-) [16:36] :) [16:36] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:36] have to cross your fingers his power supply can handle whatever you get him also [16:36] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.98.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] gift certificated :) [16:36] certificates [16:37] Soul_keeper: No good when you're purchasing whole sale (and the kid's 10 and has no better idea than I do). [16:37] Alan_Hicks: do pidgin, vlc, openoffice and wireshark run in KDE? [16:37] Azeotrope: Did you give this question even the least bit of thought before asking it? [16:37] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FE547.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [16:38] asamoah_ (n=caio@200.2.124.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:38] Alan_Hicks: ATI HD5970 :P [16:38] hi there [16:39] my logitech web-camera gets detected as a sound device [16:39] Alan_Hicks: google told me that people have issues running some of those. kopenoffice for example [16:39] and messes with my sound :@ [16:40] how do i ignore it? [16:40] mute [16:40] =\ [16:40] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-90-254.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:40] zux: /ignore [16:41] ;-) [16:41] where do i put the ignore? [16:41] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-88-12.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [16:41] the problem is, it gets set as the default sound output [16:41] and some aplications, like firefox doesn't give me normal output anymore [16:42] if i plug it in after booting, it's normal, /dev/dsp is my real sound card [16:42] but if it's pluged when booting, /dev/dsp is the false web-cam [16:43] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio [16:44] maby i can blacklist this module? [16:45] So I run slackpkg upgrade , and it lists the tk/tcl packages twice. [16:47] same version, etc? [16:47] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [16:47] yeah [16:48] Actually, it duplicates only tclx tix and tx [16:48] *tk [16:48] NaCl: Are you using a local mirror created with rsync? [16:49] On one of the machines, yes. [16:49] The other one I tested I am pulling from osuosl.org [16:49] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:49] I'll bet you made it without using the "--delete" option to rsync. [16:49] oh... huh [16:50] Alan_Hicks: my rsync command uses "--delete-after" [16:50] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] If that makes a difference [16:50] Alan_Hicks, I got that kernel upgraded finally [16:51] Alan_Hicks, had to modify my fstab entries to sdx from hdx for the drive [16:51] Alan_Hicks: will try another mirror [16:52] Same deal on mirrors.tds.net [16:52] rsynced from osuosl, everything fine, tcl, tclx, tix, tk [16:53] I don't doubt the integrety of the packages, I just see three of them twice in slackpkg [16:53] guax (n=guaxinim@201-14-185-228.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:53] Very same package? Not different BUILD numbers? [16:54] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Unless my eyes are messed up, exact same package [16:55] I have no idea what's up with that. [16:56] Alan_Hicks: i game from time to time, whats your budget ? [16:56] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:56] xsamurai: Already purchased. Thanks. [16:57] Alan_Hicks: np [16:58] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-134.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Alan_Hicks: if it makes a difference, slackpkg upgrade-all works fine [17:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-154.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:00] Razec (i=1000@189-92-30-252.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:11] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:11] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-76-53.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:14] Alan_Hicks: Kudos on the networking article you wrote. [17:14] very 1337 [17:15] macavity: I rescedueled my Linux+ exam to THIS saturday ^_^ [17:15] deco: where did u find that book? [17:15] beatzz: ssssshhhh ;-) [17:16] torrents? [17:16] u should look at the "RAID Levels" table [17:16] see how they jacked up RAID level's 0 & 1 [17:16] beatzz: no it was some site i don't remember actually [17:17] just a google search [17:17] epoch (i=1000@adsl-99-155-148-139.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] fredoslack: watching France3 [17:17] =) [17:18] beatzz: sometimes appearances can be deceiving [17:18] for all of you who dident catch this the other night [17:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALiuZQ3AEN8 [17:19] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@fw.dcc.ufba.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:21] beatzz: Thank you. [17:21] fredoslack: you are? [17:22] hmmm, the girls in the background are cute :) [17:22] Alan_Hicks: i learned from that as well, thanks. should be added to the slackware book as extra reading [17:22] JK3MP (n=jkemp@174-158-118-170.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:23] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78.134.115.5) joined ##slackware. [17:23] yes, very extensive. [17:23] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [17:24] I actually cut it shorter than I wanted, but it was getting kinda longish as it was. [17:24] Nick change: ness1d0rma -> nessundorma [17:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:24] Alan_Hicks: not really , I think it was a great introductory article [17:25] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Well thank you. [17:29] hmmmm [17:29] Tonights beer of choice :) --> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2048/1994482927_16e8701065.jpg [17:30] beatzz: i forgot to link this as well http://knol.google.com/k/counting-in-binary-for-beginners# along with alans document the other day [17:30] beatzz: Any good? [17:31] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-88-12.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:31] Alan_Hicks: are you kidding me? [17:31] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.200) joined ##slackware. [17:31] beatzz: Never tried it before. [17:31] its delicious [17:32] Guest38716 (n=mike@78.146.212.133) joined ##slackware. [17:32] it carries the tradional "roasted" taste of a stout, but its dose not overpower the Chech & Berlin hopps [17:32] its very unique. [17:32] Action: rworkman can't find Shiner Black around here. [17:32] brb, too the store i must go. [17:32] delicious? [17:32] Shiner is almost exclusivly in TX [17:33] ooh.. a picture [17:33] damn, that's a dark beer... must be tasty [17:33] I thought you guys were talking ferrets :P [17:33] i gotta head to the data center , peace [17:33] beatzz: I know where it's made :) I first tried it in Dallas. I can find the Bock around here. [17:33] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: "Leaving." [17:33] usr13_ (n=dan@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [17:33] Shiner bock is very good as well. [17:34] despiron (n=despiron@187.64.20.168) joined ##slackware. [17:34] ok, for real this time, brb. :P [17:34] stamp (n=AndChat@chello089073017116.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:34] I've never seen Shiner anything. [17:34] hi [17:34] Action: Alan_Hicks still wishes you could get a good American porter in GA. [17:34] Action: epoch faps [17:36] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [17:36] fap? [17:36] is there a program that i can see how much % a network interface it is used? [17:36] gkrellem and conky are useful for that [17:37] dorin, are you trying to test an interface to see if there's congestion? [17:37] i want to make a script that stops rtorrent when network it is > 90% [17:37] thrice`: you don't want to know. I have my finger on the ban button [17:37] lol [17:37] heya alienBOB [17:37] rosc (n=rosc@pool-98-111-18-114.sctnpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] heh [17:38] lol, ok, I won't look it up [17:38] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65213cd.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:38] Action: Necos throws an urbandictionary at thrice` [17:38] wow the ban button [17:39] so much for carefree banter [17:39] evenin', i'm trying to compile a kernel upgrading from 'smp-huge' and i dunno what option i'm breaking, can someone show me a minimal config for a asus/amd k10/phenom type system? [17:39] rosc, you can usually use the generic kernel config [17:39] i'm used to kernel 2.4, 2.6 is just..complex =) [17:40] Action: epoch holds his finger over the forking http get request script for alienbobs repository via his kaitens net [17:40] Necos, no,i dont think that it is what i want; i want to stop a bittorrent client wen trafic it is high [17:41] that's complex work dorin :( [17:41] never did like this channel, but ive always liked slackware...odd [17:41] epoch (i=1000@adsl-99-155-148-139.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:41] lol that was interesting [17:41] o_O [17:41] bah, TV is much more interesting right now :) [17:42] Necos, can u give me a starting point..or something... [17:43] the only way i can think of is to monitor /proc with a script [17:43] rosc (n=rosc@pool-98-111-18-114.sctnpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:45] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:45] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.115.5) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] Necos thrice`: epoch was the person who has been banned for a long time because of abusing a bot net or auto-scripts to DDoS this channel after he quarreled with the ops [17:45] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:46] duh [17:46] lol well now... [17:46] He has not changed a bit , judging from his parting comment [17:46] no wonder he's such a dingbat [17:48] good to know for future reference... [17:49] sakura_ (n=sakura@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:49] everyone's a dingbat but me [17:50] too true [17:50] stamp (n=AndChat@chello089073017116.chello.pl) left irc: "Bye" [17:50] dorin /proc/net/dev [17:50] Necos, tx [17:50] tnx [17:50] jeev is a special dingbat... [17:50] :P [17:51] what a stupid day [17:51] why can't it just piss rain all day, why does it go on and off [17:51] it's all sunny now... [17:51] maybe in your area [17:51] i'm only ~10mi away :P [17:52] i see nasty clouds [17:52] jeev: it hasn't stopped raining in oc [17:52] poor jeev [17:52] Action: deco loves the rain [17:52] doesn't want to get his hair wet [17:52] deco, did you get a rainy day off today? [17:52] in koreatown, it's been sunny for ~45 minutes [17:52] damn necos [17:53] jeev: yeah kindergarten was cancelled [17:53] holy moly [17:54] the rain just got more and more intense [17:54] it's going crazy [17:54] damn [17:54] oh damn, it started getting gloomy again lol [17:54] jeev: maybe you should build a boat and start collecting animals? :P [17:55] they'd all run away :P [17:55] there is one question i have about the ark of noah... if he only got two of each kind, and se know that some animals eat animals, what races became extinct? [17:56] the dinosaurs [17:56] save a cow, eat a kid [17:56] macavity: centaurs, mermaids, gryphons, unicorns... [17:57] ah fuck [17:57] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) left irc: [17:57] and i wanted a mermaid for christmas! :( [17:57] Action: macavity shakes his fist at noah for not bringing a few hundred extra gazellas [17:57] Necos: me too.. preferably one with nice big, uhm.. eyes! [17:57] they took the wacky waving inflatible arm flailing tubeman aboard or we would not have them today [17:58] lol Pig_Pen, those are great for car dealerships :) [17:58] Necos: which kind? the good-looking tease one (human on top, fish on bottom), or the ugly kind you can actually do something with (fish on top, human on bottom)? [17:58] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.188.154) left irc: "leaving" [17:58] LOL [17:58] hmmmm damn... [17:58] that's a tough choice [17:59] Action: Necos amends his order to read 1 of each [17:59] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:59] Mr-S^b32 (n=Mr-S^b32@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Maybe someone should ask Jason Merkling if he'd like to meet around the lake for a picnic. [17:59] It's a bit cold up there right now though. [17:59] hehehe [18:00] hm [18:00] In fact, 34F [18:00] noah's fark [18:00] epoch might be good with perl and botnets, but I'm good with other stuff. [18:00] man [18:00] I really don't mind calling in a few favors. [18:00] early 2000's were the best [18:01] before ddos was public [18:01] lol irc wars all over again [18:02] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:03] rworkman: I prefer the Jay and Silent Bob solution [18:03] bluntman and chronic [18:03] Urchlay: well, if I ever go to Michigan, I might go introduce myself at his trailer park. [18:04] who are we talking about? [18:04] epoch. [18:04] (the clueless dane watches little american news) [18:04] lol [18:04] i want a zack morris phone [18:04] i'll carry it around and pretend it's activated [18:04] it's cold in MI, careful :> [18:04] allllrighty. [18:05] ok, Ace Ventura, whats up now? :P [18:05] lol [18:05] nada macavity [18:05] i rescedueled my test [18:05] gana take it this saturday [18:05] so i dont go stale. [18:06] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] other than that. [18:07] nothing new. Just sippin on some brew. [18:07] no rhyme intened* [18:07] lol [18:07] wow, we have the slackware dr dre [18:07] lol jeev [18:08] look at these distro's with attitudezzzzzzz, i started this distro shit, this themotherfuckin thanks i get? [18:08] pat should be sayin that then :P [18:09] rofl thats so funny u mentioned that jeev [18:09] i JUST started playin some snoop [18:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] alienBOB: how ya doin bro? [18:11] hm, someone better than I at graphic design should convert a subgenius Bob picture into a Snoop Bob [18:11] lol [18:11] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] exclent idea. [18:12] put a perm on bob, w/ a blunt in his mouth [18:12] yeah [18:12] maby some gold teeth [18:12] w/ some stunna shades [18:12] or replace the regular pipe with one of those fancy smokin' devices you get at head shops [18:13] head shops? lol [18:13] .... Urchlay .... come on, u know their called bongs.. [18:13] you mean a tobaco shop? [18:14] http://weblogs.cltv.com/entertainment/tv/metromix/snoop-dogg.jpg + http://connie.slackware.com/~volkerdi/bob.gif [18:17] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:17] "I alittle somthing for all the oG's out there that put the foundation together, that was doin this thing befor i knew what to do w/ this thing" -Snoop Doggie Dogg [18:18] snoop's voice is annoying [18:19] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:19] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: "Leaving" [18:19] snoop is a god. [18:19] but it is unique lol [18:20] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] If rap were operating systems [18:21] Snoop would be the linux equivilant. [18:21] Action: alienBOB fixed building vlc with multilib installed, and added some other goodies (still need to test) [18:21] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:21] alienBOB: i will test it [18:21] send it my way [18:21] alienBOB, still not worth me installing qt4 for :> [18:21] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:22] thrice`: whatcha been up to ? [18:22] mm, just got home from work, and about to head to the gym. yourself? :) [18:23] u know, chillaxin' [18:23] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:24] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:25] Action: beatzz switches it up to country [18:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [18:27] troy (n=quassel@jefferai.org) joined ##slackware. [18:31] hey guys - anyone running on 2.6.32 without problems? [18:31] I am, seems fine here [18:32] Same here [18:32] actually, really nice here. it's improved encoding time by ~30% :> [18:32] packages someplace? or shall I poke around sbo :) [18:32] substanc1v (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] troy: neither; I can get you a .config though [18:33] rworkman: sweet :) [18:33] Razec (i=1000@189-92-30-252.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:33] damn.. how come i can't ping shortnames only FQDN [18:33] resolver.conf ? [18:33] check search [18:34] or domain [18:34] troy: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/config-generic-2.6.32 <-- you'll need to build an initrd to boot that [18:34] its set correctly.. DHCP set it up [18:34] Show me. [18:35] rworkman: I'll see if I can modify the 2.6.30.5 scripts that shipped with 13.0 to suit my purposes :) [18:35] resolv.conf is exactly as windows machines ipconfig show. [18:35] troy: LOTS of new options - do make oldconfig [18:35] search corp.idt.net; am.idtcorp.net // nameservers are the correct ip addresses [18:36] rworkman: a'ight :) I'm hoping I can go to the opensource X drivers after this update :) at least, that's the rumour [18:36] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:38] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [18:39] Action: troy hasn't built his own kernel in like four years - feel all tingly inside... [18:39] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-207-50.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [18:39] substanc1v, i'm not sure if that's how it works, try changing to google.com and ping www [18:39] see if that works [18:39] as far as the semicolon [18:39] probably right if dhlient set it [18:39] i mean dhcpcd or whatever linux's client is [18:40] troy: good luck :) [18:41] that's me in the corner [18:41] my work sets this up.. im in a huge company. [18:41] should just work [18:41] just edit the file and see if it does what you want [18:41] sure [18:43] hcfd (n=fed@host217-43-148-96.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [18:43] i need to find cheap land and build some shopping centers [18:44] bookoo $$$ [18:44] then i can eat tikka massala all day and make people think that i'm indian [18:44] make shure they cook it in Gi [18:45] thrice`: 2.6.32 improved encoding time of what, by 30%? that's a pretty dramatic performance boost... [18:45] if i post a video of me breakdancing will some of you watch it???? [18:46] .quit [18:46] substanc1v (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:46] well thats a definit no. [18:46] obviously [18:46] man, im so slack bored... [18:47] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [18:47] both my systems do exactly what i want them to do. [18:47] I have no issues to toubleshoot. [18:47] go get fedora so you could get rooted [18:47] no, no fedora.. [18:47] or redhat [18:47] new computer more i like it. [18:47] rworkman: are there any docs or scripts that pat uses for kernel building that are publicly available? or does he build those packages by hand? [18:50] Action: beatzz go's to study [18:54] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:54] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.199.12.190) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:54] troy: they're built by hand [18:55] i bet i'd get a lot better performance on this big customer on linux than bsd [18:56] firedix (n=firedix@host110.201-252-179.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] jeev just started a holy war :) [19:00] rworkman: alright - I'll poke at it :) [19:00] Action: troy gets a stick and pokes at it [19:00] apparently nobody's feeling real religious right now [19:01] Urchlay: no kidding :) [19:01] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65213cd.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [19:01] Urchlay: The drumkit works great now, sounds awesome. [19:01] will admit, I'm considering trying freebsd for audio recording, to see if it performs better or worse on my crappy hardware (I have no idea which to expect though) [19:02] fire|bird: well, sounds like a 1988 model alesis, which was awesome in 1988 :) [19:02] i'm getting tired of firefox sucking up ram on my vista computer ;D [19:02] Urchlay: well, it sounds good anyway. :P [19:03] ivan__ (n=ivan@214.78.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [19:03] yeah, I always liked the HR-16. Notice the hi hat works correctly in that kit: you hit the open hat, then the closed hat on the next beat, and the first hit doesn't continue to ring out over the 2nd like it does with most of the stock kits [19:03] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [19:05] it still doesn't sound like a real hi hat (you miss the sound of the 2 hats hitting each other as they close), but a lot closer to the real thing [19:05] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65213cd.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-76-53.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:07] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:07] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:08] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [19:16] firedix_ (n=firedix@host206.201-252-145.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:19] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:23] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.142.68) joined ##slackware. [19:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:28] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [19:29] Guest38716 (n=mike@78.146.212.133) left irc: "Leaving" [19:29] firedix (n=firedix@host110.201-252-179.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:32] if I get disconnected from the internet is there a way to get dhcpcd to regularly try to contact the dhcp server to get an ip ? [19:33] Inacio (i=1000@120.174.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] maybe put a small script in /etc/cron.hourly [19:35] Pig_Pen: hmmmm.... I dont have cron on my firewall... [19:35] maybe now is a good time to add it [19:35] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.85.204) left irc: Connection timed out [19:36] Pig_Pen: yeah, its not straightforward though its a soekris that I some years ago custom installed slackware on [19:36] Romania (n=Pimp@81.243.27.28) joined ##slackware. [19:37] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-207-50.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [19:37] Pig_Pen: I found a bash thing that goes like while { ! /sbin/dhcpcd; } ; do echo Retrying DHCP...; sleep 5; done .. but in my case dhcpcd is still running [19:38] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:38] what about an infinite loop that sleeps for an hour and wakes up to refresh dhcpcd and goes back to sleep for an hour :) [19:39] i guess that could work, how old is this slackware install on this soekris? [19:40] Pig_Pen: 9.1.0 [19:40] that release should include cron [19:41] cron is a super small package [19:41] Pig_Pen: oh it does I just didnt put it in there, also I didn put in gunzip or tar =) [19:41] Pig_Pen: I didnt think ahead [19:41] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:42] much <3 ##slackware [19:42] gn [19:42] may all your slackware issues be solved [19:42] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "zZzzZzzz" [19:42] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:43] Pig_Pen: my isp started to disconnect me at 00:20 to 01:20 every night for some reason :P [19:43] can you unpack cron on to a usb thumbdrive or floppy diskette, mount it and copy it over to this router? [19:43] Pig_Pen: I got ssh access.... maybe scp ? [19:43] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:44] there ya go, i am no ssh expert but if you can log in to this router with root access you should be able copy some files in to it and start a service [19:45] Pig_Pen: yeah, I'll figure it out tomorrow... need some sleep, thanks for the help [19:50] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] substancev (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:53] paissad__ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:54] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] is it okay to compile a kernel on my more powerful desktop and then move it over to my laptop? or does it need to be done on the machine it's for [19:55] props from http://www.linux.com http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/261878-intro-to-slackware-package-management [19:55] ok, gn [19:55] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:56] mrpwnage: you can compile on one box and run on another, no problem. It's easier if they're both the same architecture (e.g. x86 or x86_64), but do-able if they're not (don't ask me how though) [19:57] http://shutupwomangetonmyhorse.com/ [19:57] probly "make ARCH=x86_64", but you'd also need to set CC to a cross-compiler [19:57] hmm, okay [19:57] lotec: thanks, i've beeen looking for that link after I lost it. [19:57] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:57] best Flash ever [19:58] Sweet Lemonade [19:58] if you have two 32-bit (or two 64-bit) slackware machines, nothing special required [19:58] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:58] reminds me of a depeche mode song for some reason. [19:58] Urchlay: I see [19:58] I'll look into it more then before I attempt it and just compile on the laptop for now. [19:59] ivan__ (n=ivan@214.78.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:59] why, is the laptop 32-bit and the other box 64? [19:59] yes [20:00] you are referring to the arch are the slackware 32bit vs 64 bit? [20:00] yeah, you'll want to find out how to cross-compile a 32-bit kernel on a 64-bit host. I know it's possible, but have never done it. [20:00] They both contain 32 bit slackware [20:00] right [20:00] oh, in that case, no problem [20:01] Oh, okay. good [20:01] even if the CPU is really 64-bit, if you run 32-bit slackware on it, it stays in 32-bit mode all the time, and there's nothing special about the kernel [20:01] despiron (n=despiron@187.64.20.168) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:01] just a simple "make all modules_install", then scp the kernel image/map/config and modules over to the other box [20:02] wouldn't I need to do the modules install part on the laptop itself? [20:02] or no [20:03] well, I was thinking you set the localversion string to "-laptop" or something, then "make modules_install" will install the modules to /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-laptop/ (you scp them from there) [20:03] right, okay. I understand [20:03] you definitely don't want to overwrite the /lib/modules directory for the running kernel, on the build host [20:04] actually it is relatively safe to do so if you don't envision needing to load any more modules before you reboot [20:05] this is the voice of lazy kernel hacking :> [20:05] yes, i'll make a -laptop directory. that's a good idea [20:05] mancha: and if you don't change the kernel config so much that the modules can't load (we're not talking about replacing the /boot/vmlinuz on the build host) [20:06] on your next boot, you might end up in a situation where your /lib/modules/$VERSION contains modules that can't be loaded (depending on your setup, that may mean you can't mount the root filesystem... d'oh!) [20:07] I thought the modules_install would need to be done on the target pc because i was under the impression that files were placed into /lib/modules/linux-2.6.XX/ when you run that. [20:08] sky_ (n=sky@189.58.173.41.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Hi everybody [20:08] Urchlay: basically what you just said [20:08] mrpwnage: they are. But you can scp them there after the fact [20:08] anybody use Iptables-1.4.x with Patch-o-magic-ng in slack? [20:09] if you set LOCALVERSION to -laptop, the XX in 2.6.XX becomes XX-laptop [20:09] i see, well it just makes more sense to do that part on the target pc because modules_install does not take long at all. [20:09] sky_: I know a guy who does (or did, a while back), but he was constantly breaking things [20:09] mrpwnage: yes, but scp'ing the entire /usr/src/linux tree after a "make", will take a damn long time [20:10] I have no idea why I'm unable to connect to a WPA AP .. the wlan0 just times out.. [20:10] that's true also [20:10] sorta defeats the purpose of cross-compiling [20:10] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Urchlay, tnkz [20:11] you could look in the slackware source directory, IIRC there's a script in there that'll build the kernel and create a slackware tgz package out of it (so you just scp the one file to the laptop, and then on the laptop run upgradepkg and lilo) [20:11] well, I could use usb, though since i'm not using the laptop right now i'll just ssh into it and do it on the target to save a headache. i was mainly wondering if it was safe to do anyway [20:11] Nick change: Sadnem -> Sadnem|Z__Z [20:12] yeah, it's safe [20:12] another idea might be to set up both the laptop and the other machine as distcc nodes, and use distcc to build the kernel [20:12] paissad__ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:12] (in fact, why the heck am I not doing that?) [20:12] hehe [20:13] Mefached (i=500@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] paissad__ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:14] honestly i've never tried distcc though hear good things [20:15] I set it up aeons ago to see if it even worked, but never did anything beyond testing it and going [20:15] "wow, neat!" [20:15] heh [20:16] partly because that network was built on a 10baseT hub and was pretty congested (if your network is painfully slow, you won't get any benefit from using the network to distribute your compile jobs...) [20:18] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-214.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:22] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] hcfd (n=fed@host217-43-148-96.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:23] sky_ (n=sky@189.58.173.41.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [20:23] hcfd (n=fed@host86-142-136-40.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:24] GammalSokk (n=johskar@130.84-48-46.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:25] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [20:25] yes, makes sense [20:26] urthwrm (n=hooch@124-170-207-50.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:26] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:27] I'm trying to get dhclient on slackware 9.1 working anyone know a dhclient.conf available I can use ? [20:27] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:29] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:33] snL20 did you read the manpage [20:34] 2.6.32 has intel atom arch support. very nice [20:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:35] mrpwnage: Isn't Atom just x86? [20:35] it's compat afaik [20:36] tripFantastic: I'm looking for a quick fix reading the man at 02:35 is not much fun =) [20:36] ah [20:36] Mefached: it has some features of new processors and some older features so it didn't have a place. [20:37] Didn't the older kernels work fine with Atom though? Or does it just work better now? [20:37] |Cyb3rGh0st| (i=01@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: [20:37] tripFantastic: trying to run dhclient eth2 says eth2: not found [20:37] why use it? [20:37] who are you trying to connect to? [20:37] lan or isp? [20:37] tripFantastic: well, apparently it will retry if no dhcp server is found [20:37] I'm guessing the they added some platform specific tweaks since it's now a seperate option [20:37] ok; where's ducpd? [20:38] tripFantastic: isp [20:38] you can just use dhcpcd! [20:38] dhclient not needed [20:38] who else makes atom? VIA? does AMD make atom cpu? [20:38] that's how i do it [20:39] Pig_Pen: I think it's intel only isn't it? [20:39] HP? [20:39] tripFantastic: what if I get disconnected and loose ip will dhcpcd try and get an ip from a dhcp over and over ? [20:39] whoever makes an atom-based nano-book [20:39] snL20 yes [20:39] snL20 but isnt usually a blackout scenario? [20:39] i think VIA does, not sure about AMD [20:39] snL20 that's usually the case for me [20:39] tripFantastic: my isp has started to drop me at 00:20 to 01:20 [20:40] snL20 must be doin network work [20:40] snL20 that "cycling" happens [20:40] call the home office [20:40] I only see intel atoms. [20:40] or email them [20:40] Pig_Pen: Atom is just a trade name [20:40] Pig_Pen: it doesnt mean anything per se [20:40] tripFantastic: yeah, prolly... I just dont want to wake up without my computer connected to the internet [20:40] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [20:40] Pig_Pen: if you are looking for a similar product from AMD it is called Geode [20:41] atom is an $ARCH [20:41] snL20 crap haps; live with it :) bitch to isp and get better service if needed [20:41] i heard of amd geode, i was not sure of the arch of it [20:41] tripFantastic: anyway dhcpcd exits if you kill it and try to start it to get an ip and it doesnt find a dhcp [20:41] Pig_Pen: no.. Atom is just as plainly x86 as everthing else [20:41] snL20 require them to notify you of impending downtime [20:41] Pig_Pen: Geode is the arch i believe [20:41] Pig_Pen: please Wikipedia it [20:41] snL20 then there is no remote daemon [20:41] >_< [20:41] no shit!??!! i thought it was a separate arch [20:42] GUYS.. if Atom is an arch, then Celeron is an arch too... [20:42] celry aint $ARCH [20:42] tripFantastic: well apparently dhclient would try untill it finds a dhcp server [20:42] They are mostly found in Mesh type Hotspot mainboards. Geodes [20:42] neither is atom [20:42] snL20 ok [20:42] so how does atom perform? is it like a cheap celeron? [20:42] tripFantastic: if I can get it to work :P [20:42] they're both x86... so what are we bitching about here? [20:42] it has hyperthreading [20:42] mrpwnage: yes.. its a shame that they went out of production :-/ [20:42] Pig_Pen wouldnt x86.org have that info? [20:43] Necos: oh, this is just FUD controll with facts [20:43] the atom has HT i meant [20:43] macavity, oh someone asked one of those retarded gentoo-esque questions? [20:43] snL20 man 5 dhclient.conf [20:44] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:44] Necos: affirmative :P [20:44] despiron (n=root@187.64.20.168) joined ##slackware. [20:44] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:44] despiron kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [20:44] "how do i optimize my amd proc for slackware?" or some such nonsense... [20:45] wow ban for root? how efnet of you! [20:45] that's so 90s!!! [20:45] heh, not really... but if it'll help the person learn a little, it's a good thing [20:45] i still dont konw how [20:46] look at the ban message :P [20:46] i did, it's the same text from '95 [20:46] rworkman: SYN [20:46] Pig_Pen: From the kernel: Select this for the Intel Atom platform. Intel Atom CPUs have an in-order pipelining architecture and thus can benefit from accordingly optimized code. [20:46] despiron (n=slackboy@187.64.20.168) joined ##slackware. [20:46] lol [20:46] see, he learned! [20:47] he stole a nick [20:47] rofl [20:47] :\ [20:47] i will as soon as i get an intel atom cpu in a netbook [20:47] lol [20:47] despiron clevah [20:47] good use of spite [20:47] hehe [20:47] :( [20:47] i nominate despiron for spite-user of the week [20:47] anyway, proc support in a kernel doesn't really mean much unless it's used in an application [20:48] or a script [20:48] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:48] and it still doesn't mean atom becomes $ARCH :P [20:48] it's still an x86-class proc [20:49] Necos: no it's not. it's an x86-class proc [20:49] ;D [20:49] so stop confusing Pig_Pen you ass :P [20:50] I didn't [20:50] Action: mrpwnage grumbles. [20:50] Action: Necos grumbles back [20:50] Action: tripFantastic brings out the grumble-bib [20:50] Emeau__ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-66-104.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:51] hmmmm [20:51] Action: mrpwnage grubles the last grumble or eternal lastness. [20:51] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:51] heh grubles [20:51] lol [20:51] The performance of a single core Atom is about half that of a Celeron of the same clock rate. [20:51] lol [20:51] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] Basically, Atom processors are a joke [20:52] ok [20:52] that makes sense [20:52] I can't wait for ARM laptops [20:52] so maybe they aint the high and mighty pentius? [20:52] i am tech support for ex co workers [20:52] restoring a pc [20:52] bahhhhhhhhh [20:52] Atoms work fine for what they are designed for [20:52] lol nix_chix0r :P [20:52] low power drain, and decent enough performance [20:52] like you click on her account on windows and it logs off with out loading [20:52] nix_chix0r stiff upper bit, babe :) [20:52] they aren't a joke. they are for people who just want a netbook for basic web related activities [20:53] Tegra looks interesting actually [20:53] but i just restored her settings with out having to install my pirated version [20:53] netbooks are particularly useful for digital photographers [20:53] mrpwnage, and more besides. I find the N280 Atom to be quite capable actually. [20:53] Necos: or people who just needs to take notes at school [20:53] i'm going to need a lappy for school that can record sound and vid [20:54] do adams lappies do that? [20:54] macavity, yep [20:54] tripFantastic: yep [20:54] ok [20:54] tripFantastic: the later Asus EeePCs are pretty good for a netbook [20:54] macavity, my interest in netbooks only came about from the fact that i like to do landscape shooting [20:54] tripFantastic: not to mention, full support out of the box in Slackware 13 [20:54] macavity ok; i think i'l be going back to uni next year sometime [20:54] not spring [20:54] it'd be shitty if i did a whole bunch of nightshots, only to get home and find out they're crap :P [20:54] yes, i love the size of the netbook. I can use it many places a full sized laptop would be akward [20:55] Necos: yep [20:55] under your pillow? [20:55] the bed-fort? [20:55] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] lol [20:55] tripFantastic: real men haz 42" OLED screen there :P [20:55] heh [20:56] When I use a normal laptop now it just seems too big. [20:56] macavity what movie has the scene @ui where the students start leaving reel-to-reels at their desks and then finally the professor leaves a r-to-r too? [20:56] oh no, i still <3 my 17" gateway at home when i wanna do any work away from my desktop [20:56] What's the screen size on the EeePCs? And what kind of price would I be looking at for that purchase? [20:57] $300, a few inches [20:57] 8" or so? [20:57] lol [20:57] I wouldn't go below 10 inches [20:57] EeePC 1005HA is an amazing wee machine and it's even better when you up the RAM and HDD. The battery life is staggering, imho. [20:57] i really want an hp mini 1100 tho [20:57] buy it online witha prepaid debit card [20:57] the msi wind boasts having the nicest keyboard [20:58] tripFantastic: that just didnt click in at all [20:58] ok [20:58] The speakers, webcam and bluetooth are great and the internal wifi antenna has great range. [20:58] i'm tryin to remember the scene source [20:58] hcfd++ [20:58] mrpwnage, what's different about the MSI keyboard? [20:58] it's a really funi scene [20:58] macavity, didn't stop me from adding an external RP-SMA and 12dBi omni to it O:) [20:58] they did some tweaks to make it a little bigger and the keys are more indented I think. [20:59] hcfd: the HA has an Atheros something, doesnt it? [20:59] I've got a Compaq Mini (same as the HP Mini 110), and I love it. Works perfectly w/ Slackware. [20:59] and the shift key is in the normal place as opposed to the other netbooks [20:59] paradroid (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:59] mrpwnage, I must look into that out of curiousity. I'm a big keyboard fan, HHKB2, Model M, etc. [20:59] where's the ctrl hkey? [21:00] tripFantastic: on the keyboard :P [21:00] macavity, I forget what the stock one is. It's an AR9xxx. I swapped it out for an AR5008 though. [21:00] at caps or space? [21:00] can you still get netbooks with linux on 'em? [21:00] tripFantastic, if you are using virtual box it means right ctl key [21:00] k [21:00] hcfd: the ath9k driver is supposedly stable now [21:00] Necos: You can just put it on yourself. [21:00] hcfd: but uhm.. is that a minipcie AR9xxx? [21:00] I never found much things quite as satisfying as deleting Windows [21:01] heh same here [21:01] lol [21:01] hcfd: and what would you charge to send it here? :P [21:01] but i was never indoctrinated to it [21:01] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:01] test34- (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:01] macavity: It's what I've been using... with the AR5008. Works great for monitor mode, injection, everything. [21:02] hcfd: yes, i am well aquainted with the 5k series.. but i would like to play with the 9k if i could get the chance [21:02] well, i'd be putting slack on it one way or another... i just remember the linux-based models were crappier [21:02] macavity: It's half the size of regular mPCI-E I think. It's ridiculously small actually. Where is here? I could list it on eBay for you. [21:02] hcfd: can you get the numbers off it for me? i find it exceptionally hard to purchace cards based on chipset [21:02] test34- (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Client Quit [21:02] hcfd: Denmark [21:02] macavity: Er.. let me see. Postage there shouldn't be too bad, I'm in Ireland. [21:03] ah sweet! [21:03] but it fits a regular minipcie slot, right? [21:03] Yup [21:03] and it only has two antennas cables? [21:03] http://www.cdwg.com/shop/search/results.aspx?key=HP%20mini%20110&SortBy=PriceAsc&searchscope=All [21:03] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Client Quit [21:04] PCI Express Half MiniCard, Model No. AR5B95 [21:04] no brand name? [21:04] I ended up getting the lenovo s10 though probably would have gotten the msi wind if I hadn't. [21:04] macavity, two antenna sockets, yep [21:04] the s10 is nice looking [21:05] yeah, it's nice [21:05] macavity, AzureWare. Sorry.. I get confused.. I only see chipset numbers. hehe [21:05] since i work in education, i can get discounts from vendors, so i've been really looking in to what i can get for ~$300 [21:05] perfect [21:05] test34 (n=test34@c-69-244-245-20.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] macavity, I used it for a couple of days before pulling my Eee apart for mods, so she's practically brand new. Can confirm it works great under Slack. It's a great little card! [21:06] you know, tax refund time :) [21:06] hcfd: can i ping you on this in the new year? [21:07] hcfd: i would so like to get rid of my intel 3945, as it uses a binary blob [21:07] lol! yeah i learned something today about atom [21:07] macavity: Awh, no funds at the moment? [21:07] hcfd: it's December :P [21:07] good Pig_Pen... 'cause we couldn't have you running around not knowing :) [21:08] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [21:08] anywho folks, time to go study magnetic induction :P [21:08] laters [21:08] macavity: December is the only time when I -do- have money, since I get birthday cash from my birthday on the 15th and I just sell most of my Christmas gifts [21:08] later Necos [21:08] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left ##slackware. [21:08] Mefached: lol [21:08] macavity, oh, so xmas and stuff? I've been lucky enough to come into some extra cash, so I bought myself bits for a new server and an MAudio Audiophile 2496 (VIA Envy24 chipset). It sounds amazing! [21:09] macavity: I can hold onto it for you no problem. I'm just trying to figure out what it is worth on eBay, but there's only one listing and it hasn't sold yet. What is it worth to you? [21:10] hcfd: yep.. what little left i have goes for xmas.. i always raped my wallet off too much by getting a webcam this month too [21:10] Would anyone here recommend a more recent laptop than mine that I could probably get for under $300? I'm running an Inspiron 8500 with a 2.4 Ghz P4, and I'd like at least a Core2Duo. [21:10] hcfd: if we can find it as a spare part in some chart listing i will pay new price + postal [21:11] hcfd: as that is what i will end up with if i go ask in seventy odd stores untill they can actually get it [21:11] macavity: Fair enough. Say, do you need a 1GB DDR2 800MHz 200pin SO-DIMM as well? [21:11] Nick change: gerrh^^ -> gerrh [21:11] maybe look at newegg.com for a new laptop if you live in the usa, i would reccomend anything with nvidia video and atheros wifi [21:11] JK3MP (n=JK3MP@174-157-17-21.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] hcfd: nope :P [21:12] macavity: That's a pretty nice offer. So it's in your interest to find the cheapest price you can. I'll leave that in your hands! I can't be bothered to search. A cursory glance shows no results really. [21:12] hcfd: i only have my laptop, and it runs 2x1GB 667Mhz (and the 945 chipset only supports 2GB anyway) [21:12] hcfd: i'll ask at my local Asus dealer what they would charge me to get one home.. then we can talk [21:13] Action: macavity cant wait to get driver hacking again [21:13] mancha: pong [21:13] macavity: Ahh. Okay, used price for an AR5B91 is about 12GBP... but this is AR5B91, and new, essentially. [21:13] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:14] I love newegg since they sell laptops running XP for cheaper than the 7 laptops [21:14] And I just plan on removing Windows anyway, so it's all good [21:14] hcfd: lets see what the postal amounts to :P [21:14] The *most* fscked up day in the land of ethernet...evar. [21:14] macavity: Cool. I'll have an idea of how much I think it's worth, and I bet you'll come up with that price. We'll strike a deal I'm sure of it. Postage shouldn't be too bad. You want tracking/insurance on it? [21:15] We get a call from a client this morning saying their IP phone system can only make calls to the outside world and receive calls from the outside world but they can't make any calls internally to extensions. [21:15] hcfd: can you just wrap it up carefully and send it as a letter? [21:15] hcfd: i trust you wouldn't screw a fellow slacker :P [21:16] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [21:16] So we drive to the site and check it out. Troubleshoot vlans and RTP for 8 hours. Come 5pm when users start to shutdown their equipment and leave...everything magically starts working. [21:16] macavity, sure thing. That'd cost about 2GBP - my best guess. Tariff guide suggests that to send it with tracking it'd cost an additional 3.70GBP. 3-5 working days. [21:16] someone, somewhere has either faulty hardware or a faulty net stack [21:17] macavity: I wouldn't screw anybody. For ease and reassurance, I could list it on eBay for you as we PM each other, that way you're guaranteed to win the buy it now, and then you will have eBay and PayPal on your side. And you can see my feedback is 100%. [21:17] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:18] I have 20 bucks that says when 8am comes around tomorrow and users start showing up for work the IP phone system will be broken as soon as the user's system comes online. [21:18] macavity: I would be listing it on eBay now for anyone to buy except I want it to go to a good home, ie: a fellow Slacker :p [21:19] hcfd: what are you gonna sell ? [21:19] hcfd: without having looked, how does it sound if i just pump £30 to your account? [21:20] macavity: Sounds about spot on :) [21:20] macavity: you can pump cash to me any day :o [21:20] I'd like to upgrade from 12.2 to 13.0, but I don't know what would be the most effective way to get all of those packages? I don't want to have to download them one by one. [21:20] hcfd: so we can say £35, and then you wrap it up really nicely and handle the postage, so i dont have to pick it up at customs :P [21:20] macavity: Will I send a request now, and you can pay it whenever suits? When I see it I will mail it. I think requests stay open for 60 days..? [21:20] Mefached: do a fresh install [21:21] hcfd: oh, i think i need to figure out all this ebay stuff first [21:21] deco: UPGRADE.TXT seems pretty straightforward; is there a reason to just reinstall? [21:21] macavity: Jiffy bag/bubble wrap bag and send as standard letter? Or do you want it in a regular envelope? [21:21] hcfd: i was attempting backdoor trade here :P [21:21] i second the fresh install idea [21:21] macavity: Well, you just need a PayPal account really. [21:21] Mefached: You have to either download the 13.0 packages one by one or download the whole DVD/CD image...pick your poison. [21:22] hcfd: oh, i have ebanking [21:22] macavity: Yeah but a package doesn't have to be stopped at customs. I'll mark it as 'gift' [21:22] hcfd: i can wire the money directly to your account if you wish [21:22] fabulous [21:22] There's no fancy wget to just download the whole directory? [21:22] Well, are you prepared to pay now or do you want to leave it till after xmas? [21:22] 1. Jan [21:23] otherwise someone is going to not get an xmas pressent [21:23] macavity: Student loan coming in on the 1st or summat? [21:24] no, i just get the next "pay check" [21:24] Action: hcfd puts the card back in his parts drawer [21:24] Fair enough. [21:24] We have a deal. Ping me when you're ready to wire it over. :) [21:25] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] hcfd: i dont recall you being very active here, but you can pretty much always get hold of me here in the evening [21:25] get each other's phone number [21:25] hcfd: skype? [21:26] deco: good call :P [21:26] ^^ [21:26] macavity: Oh but I do lurk here all the time. I don't do skype. Nothing wrong with email though.. [21:26] PM? [21:26] Way ahead of yah ;) [21:27] we just witness slackers helping slackers irl [21:27] Geeks stick together [21:27] yup [21:28] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] I give away parts to the other geeks I know all the time [21:28] I don't even care about getting anything for it [21:28] I'd rather give it to another geek than sell it, usually [21:28] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] Mefached, you're making me look bad :p [21:29] hcfd: Handing people parts IRL is a lot easier. :P [21:29] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [21:29] "Yeah, you want that old tower? Just stop by and pick it up." What you're doing actually takes effort. [21:29] Mefached, oh. For sure! [21:29] Aye [21:30] I gave my friend Ethan six towers last week [21:30] Ranging from a P-75 to a P4 [21:30] And considering I bought the 1005HA, a 500GB drive, 2GB ram, AR5008 card, RP-SMA stuff, antennas.. I've probably spent more on a netbook than anyone really should. heh [21:30] I don't know what he's going to do with them, and I don't really care [21:31] I have another P-75 in my room, I wanna find a Linux distro that'll run comfortably on it [21:31] DeLi Linux for old and ancient hardware [21:31] Mefached, wow. I only have a couple of machines here that aren't worth much/I am not using. I bought 12 Esprimo 5905s to refurb and sell on a while ago. Tidy earner. [21:31] i am really excited to get this up and running.. its the last peice of binary poisonware that gets the boot soon [21:32] noo, intel is goot [21:32] I mean it's a sad fact that the world revolves around money, but that's just how it is. Dealing in equipment now and then (where I can find an angle) helps me afford to do what I like doing: geeking out :) [21:32] thrice`: it is so rediculous that they dont give the specs to the card [21:32] macavity, good man! [21:32] thrice`: the chip on the card is just a tiny pentium [21:33] hcfd: I live with my parents, and they always complain that they can't get into my room because of all the stuff [21:33] thrice`: a p54c core actually... we could perfectly well write our own firmware for the card, if they would just tell us how to operate the antenna [21:33] Even after I gave away six towers, I have seven keyboards, four mice, a P-75, an old Apple ][ printer, a PIII, a P4, a bunch of CD drives, DVD drives, floppy drives, etc, and a few empty cases [21:34] I have two or three motherboards in there too [21:34] Mefached, I used to have a 26' x 16' shed full of stuff. Now I just have a workstation, a server, media PC and a small stock of spares for client machines (customers whose machines I fix) [21:34] hcfd: All of my gear, without exception, was dumpstered or curbed ;D [21:34] hcfd: for some reason, i just seem to be the kind of person who *always* gets bitten by the "sorry, you are not allowed to fix this"-bug with their blobs [21:34] Mefached, any Skt775 mobos? [21:34] hcfd: If that mobo is within the past decade, I don't have it. >.> [21:35] macavity, hopefully you'll have better luck with this Atheros card and ath9k :) [21:35] The newest machine I have outside of the family desktop and this laptop is the P4 [21:35] ath5k and 9k are both just plain readable C [21:35] Mefached, ahh, I know exactly where you're coming from. Do you have any IBM buckling spring keyboards? M4? Model F? [21:35] ok.. the 5k is a little messy to read actually >_< [21:35] hcfd: I have a spring IBM, yes. Let me go find the model. [21:36] Mefached: Cool. Model and layout (ISO UK, DE, US..?) please :) [21:36] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [21:36] Action: hcfd has got a keyboard collecting thing going on.. [21:37] macavity, incidentally, what graphics card(s) do you run, and which driver? [21:37] 1984 Model M [21:37] US, no Win key [21:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:37] hcfd: intel945 [21:38] hcfd: kernel 32, rest is stock -current [21:38] hcfd: but i am about to upgrade to latest DRM/Mesa/Intel [21:38] Mefached: Before I ask any more.. where are you located? Postage is a killer on those things.. [21:38] hcfd: Memphis, TN. [21:38] , US [21:38] Yes. [21:39] that was what he was after :P [21:39] I can make no promises as to the usability of the keyboard itself. There aren't any stuck keys, but I've never actually used it. [21:39] macavity, ahh I see. You wouldn't like my setup, I run the nVidia driver. I have to :/ [21:39] I'm told it's relatively valuable, but I don't have any real reason to keep it. [21:39] it probably doesnt change the postal to ireleand much whaever you ive in NY or TX :P [21:40] hcfd: have faith brother.. Nouveau is really making progress [21:40] deco: so how's the 'adventure' going? [21:40] hcfd: in recent graphics stacks KMS is up and running, XRandR works, Xinerama works [21:40] Mefached: Ah, well the location alone makes it too expensive for me, P&P wise. There's always collectors' interest in those boards though. You might want to check eBay. One as old as yours might (I stress /might/) be worth something. [21:41] Dominian: stopped for now :P [21:41] oh? [21:41] deco: switch to something else? [21:41] Dominian: but it was nice, just have to concentrate on other things right now [21:41] macavity, I suppose I owe it to myself to give it a shot, but I have an unusal setup. 3 displays, all 90deg rotation. [21:41] Dominian: mostly programming [21:41] deco: excuses [21:41] hcfd: Alright. [21:42] Mefached: I just bought one recently that was UK layout, made in 1995. I paid 45GBP. [21:42] hcfd: randr should get that working with Nouveau [21:42] hcfd: I'm finding the Model M for about $40 on average on eBay [21:42] hcfd: uhm, is that distributed on two cards? [21:42] I may sell it for some quick cash [21:42] Dominian: i have to watch my hdd too , i only have 60GB :/ [21:43] ouch [21:43] deco: Dude you can get a 500GB on newegg for like.. dirt cheap [21:43] Dominian: it's a lappy [21:43] Mefached: I guess there are a lot more on the market in the US than in Europe. It really is hard to find them here at times. [21:43] deco: dude you can get a 500GB on newegg for dirt cheap [21:43] ;) [21:43] Dominian: lol [21:43] Action: Dominian knew what he was saying :P [21:43] Action: hcfd felts vastly over-spec'd [21:43] 60GB? o_O [21:43] :D! My Apple ][ dot matrix printer is worth some cash too! I found an identical printer on ebay for $85 [21:43] deco: SATA interface? [21:44] Dominian: i would keep it on my system if had that much space :P [21:44] Dominian: he is probably still on PATA [21:44] deco: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148371 [21:44] deco: that's if your laptop has sata interface [21:44] keyboard with illuminated keys [21:44] hcfd: I'm also on only 60 GB, and I've never felt confined by it. I've never understood the purpose of a huge drive. [21:44] I have..100 times that. 6TB. [21:44] Dominian: IDE i believe [21:44] Dominian: 2001 model [21:44] Action: hcfd feels greedy or something [21:44] oh [21:44] then your SOL [21:44] hehe [21:45] lol [21:45] they sell 160GB IDE [21:45] Dominian: blah not worth it :P [21:45] deco: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152110 [21:45] Dominian: thanks [21:45] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZL027046.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [21:45] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Client Quit [21:45] Mefached: Well, I store a lot of music and video. Full audio CD rips. I back up all my data CDs too, and all my system drives... and I just accumulate a load of crap :) [21:45] deco: no problem ! [21:46] macavity: The middle one is the card we discussed - http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9478/0721092333.jpg [21:47] Dominian: that is a 5400RPM drive... [21:47] macavity: and? [21:47] More than likely the one that deco has is 5400 [21:47] oh well.. i love my 7200.. despite being PATA [21:47] chassis probably would over heat with anything faster [21:47] macavity: oh.. on my alienware.. it will have dual 500GB drives at one point [21:47] Dominian: it already gets hot [21:48] hcfd: i have the idea that is gong to prolong my battery life as well :P [21:48] deco: yep.. 7200RPM drive would probably burn a whole through your leg hehe [21:48] lol [21:48] Dominian: well.. i will just have to stick to my 100GB too :P [21:48] however, I think I' dhave to stick with two 250GB drives.. don't think the BIOS in my laptop allows past that [21:48] nah they make thin asbestos self-adhesive strips [21:48] macavity: hehe [21:48] no holes burned in legs [21:48] ok bbl! [21:48] macavity: Could do. I'm not sure of the specs tbh but I do know that it draws less juice than the AR5008 I replaced it with. [21:49] hcfd: the 3945 i have now is actually a little hungry too [21:49] 300mW or so? [21:50] actually i dont know exactly [21:50] Action: macavity should install powertop [21:50] powertop? :) [21:50] Action: ChickenLittle should make packages for powertop [21:50] hcfd: top, but for power consumption [21:50] Powertop? [21:50] Action: ChickenLittle and kernel packages for slap/slap64 kernel configs [21:50] Ah, I see [21:50] Mefached, a program for enhancing / measuring power saving performance [21:51] I'm getting 2:30 or so [21:51] macavity, I didn't realise that it was possible to monitor devices like that... or.. well maybe it doesn't; does it just measure like battery drain? [21:51] :30 more than I got with Ubuntu, so I'm good [21:51] hcfd: and use SMBus for it too i belive [21:52] i don't enjoy dimming my screen but assuming i don't use firefox or skype i can get about 3 hours out of my laptop [21:52] powertop also monitors programs (i.e. top causes for CPU/hard drive wakeup) [21:53] That's not bad. [21:54] linux hard drive caching still ticks me off though. in my opinion it's not enough. there ought to be a way to tell the kernel "ok, use this gig of RAM for caching all writes and don't flush it to disk until it's full" [21:54] ChickenLittle: That sounds potentially bad. [21:54] i have set various options to try to get things to cooperate well but it doesn't always work out [21:54] ChickenLittle, risky business is write caching.. [21:54] ChickenLittle, you wrote powertop? [21:54] ext4 and xfs cache a lot already [21:54] no i didn't write powertop [21:55] Oh okay. I'm going to d/l and try it out [21:55] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:55] i set the committ level of ext4 to every 30 minutes instead of every 5 seconds, set laptop_mode to 5, set hard drive power mode to max power savings and yet i still hear the hard drive spin up every 5 minutes or so [21:56] some of the reason is known, such as various programs that log info to the hard drive (i disabled logging on xchat, pidgin, and skype) [21:56] there are also some programs that aren't designed too well or compiled very well (skype and firefox tend to be high on the list of common programs that induce wake-ups) [21:57] some of this could be alleviated if i had a solid state hard drive, true, but those are expensive [21:57] Bah, I need to recompile the kernel to get powertop to monitor anything. :/ [21:57] yep [21:58] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [21:58] I'm not about to do that at 3am. Besides, it would mean disrupting my music playback. Maybe in the morning I'll do it. [21:59] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/config-slap-2.6.32 [21:59] you can try out my "slap" config for kernels (slackware for laptops) and no it's not a distribution it's just a remix [22:01] What have you tried to do with it? [22:01] what do you mean? [22:02] lower latency settings, tickless kernel, i686 as minimum? [22:02] no i586 as a minimum because i know someone who has a 586 laptop that still works [22:02] but i would like to get some research done on some people who use linux on laptops and find out what the oldest model that slackware runs is [22:02] then i better stick to my own :P [22:03] low latency yes, tickless yes, stats yes [22:03] mine is intended to be a potential replacement for the generic kernel [22:03] (on the remix CD i have planned in the future) [22:05] ""One of the big issues that security researcher Dan Kaminsky disclosed about DNS insecurity in 2008 was that DNS request information isn't quite as random as it should be. The way DNS works is that each DNS request is supposed to carry with it a random number transaction ID. But it turns out that the random number is only one out of 65,000. [22:06] what a smart guy, pretending that more than 64k ports exist [22:06] google DNS critique: http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/12/is-google-public-dns-safe-look.html [22:06] iirc port #s are 0 through 65535 [22:07] and a random number transaction ID isn't the same as a port # [22:07] but, but, limiting to 65535 isn't random enough!?! # the stupid git [22:07] If I'm going to install Slackware 13.0 and I don't want KDE 4, can I just not bother with the third disc or will that cause any issues? [22:07] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:07] 1/65535 is a pretty high percentage for a computer, and it's surely not random [22:08] mmlj4, so? maybe he just wants more random transaction IDs [22:08] well, right, transaction ID ne port number [22:08] Mefached, yes [22:08] maybe I misread [22:09] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] random ports for DNS might cause problems [22:12] In the two days I've been using 12.2, I've made two .tgz packages with slackbuilds (boost and wesnoth) [22:12] Will these work OK on 13.0 or do I need to do it again? [22:12] need to do again [22:13] 13 includes boost :) [22:13] thrice`, you're talking about my penis again? yea.. 13 inches when im excited [22:14] nossralsuva (n=nossrals@pool-71-246-116-108.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] around? [22:14] long and around [22:14] http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/105749 [22:14] that's unbelievable [22:14] i think the /l dir is getting bloated with lots of stuff, all the libraries and packages required for kde that is in /l including qt and the rest should be moved to /kde, and a new dir for /gtk be made for all the libraries and packages for gtk and GUI stuff [22:15] ChickenLittle: can i help you with something? [22:15] probably but i wasn't aware i needed any help [22:15] then why do you feel compelled to message me? [22:16] i'm not aware i was messaging you [22:16] 22:13 E1leen> Creepy sickard [22:16] because the sky is falling? [22:16] that would not be me [22:16] oops, i'm very sorry. [22:16] i'm ident'd [22:17] damn irc client going nuts. i'm very sorry about the confusion [22:17] no it's ok [22:17] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZL027046.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] ivan__ (n=ivan@68.80.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [22:23] well that was an easy fix on her computer [22:28] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:31] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:32] ahahah CRIA faces $60billion fine. [22:32] agentc0re: yes, i laughed my ass off :P [22:33] macavity: the irony... but watch them get out of it completely, with no fine. hopefully that will pave the way of individuals facing the same penalties. [22:34] agentc0re: lets see how it fares... it seems that it has become fashionable among judges to slam big corps hard when they fall in their own traps [22:34] err worded that last part wrong.. i meant, meaning that individuals wont face those ridiculous charges anymore. [22:35] macavity: that would be good too. either way, i think some good will come out of this. [22:35] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [22:36] btw guys, vlan tagging in linux works nicely [22:36] I whipped it out today and used it for the first time, all the windows were amazed [22:36] windows admins* [22:37] antiwire: it sounds better when you refer to them as just windows. It's almost like saying tool. :P [22:37] vlan tagging? [22:37] 802.1Q [22:37] It works! [22:37] using vconfig I created a virtual interface which was tagged for a specific vlan ID [22:38] which allows me to hop over vlans without mucking around with cables or the switch ports [22:39] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [22:39] l_n (n=shawn@tuxhacker/lordnothing) joined ##slackware. [22:40] As a side note, I have yet to find a windows network card driver which actually allows the user to set the vlan ID under windows. I can only ever enable/disable vlan tagging but it won't let one set the ID [22:40] oh sweet [22:41] you getting quite a network expert :P [22:41] ;) [22:43] antiwire: i'll have to check my HP servers at work tomorrow, i think they let me set vlan id's. [22:43] I think.. [22:43] agentc0re: I hope at least some server class gear will allow it [22:43] antiwire: Intel PRO/100[0[0]]? [22:43] If you can set the ID I'd like to know about it [22:43] eh, i'll check now. curiosity is getting the best of me. [22:44] macavity: I know I can do it under linux with intel gear but none of our servers or workstations/laptops at work have drivers which support VID [22:44] antiwire: i dont have a windows box in a mile radius, so i have no idea.. i just know that Intel NICs are teh shaith for what i have used them for so far [22:44] yeah they are good [22:45] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [22:45] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:45] I have an Intel Pro1000 dual port for my home server [22:45] antiwire: maybe windows doesnt have the nessecary infrastructure in the networking stack? [22:45] macavity: Yeah, I'm not sure if it is just the NIC drivers for windows or if it is the windows stack around the nic drivers [22:46] one would imagine that Intel would put that stuff in there if possible [22:46] if for nothing else, then just to make impressive screen shots of the 50 tabs in the settings dialogue :P [22:46] gtludwig (n=gtludwig@189.114.204.65.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:47] as long as you have the 8021Q linux kernel module and the vconfig userspace stuff you can tag pretty much any network interface under linux [22:47] antiwire: http://imagebin.org/74515 [22:48] agentc0re: sweet! [22:48] you have a winnar [22:48] lol [22:49] i think you can only do it with the HP software though. so all of my HP servers(i just checked one) probably have the capability. Not sure about my dell's but they're running XenServer [22:50] I don't really need to use Vlan's though, but when i do or i have to consider using one i get confused as all hell. they can get messy depending on your need and why you "think" you might need it. [22:50] yeah [22:50] we use them to separate voice and data vlans [22:51] we apply higher levels of QoS to the voice vlans [22:51] which is understandable. we did that at my last job. it's the best thing to do. [22:51] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [22:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [22:52] I do have 4 voip phones on my network.. BUT that's it. so i just QOS the ports they use between their site and the host site. [22:53] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@lvps83-169-3-115.dedicated.hosteurope.de) joined ##slackware. [22:53] QOS on cisco IOS is another confusing as hell thing to understand. probably one class i should take. I'm just thankful for the Cisco Network Assistant that made it easy as pie. [22:53] Yeah it is out of control when you look at the configs [22:55] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:56] anyone know how to find the version of acpi on a pc? [22:56] firmware version. [22:57] mrpwnage: there's an fbsd tool that will dump the bios. [22:57] but i forgot the name of it. [22:58] dmidecode maybe? [22:58] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:59] cat /proc/acpi/info [22:59] thanks [23:00] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] hmm. I'm not sure if that is what I need though. [23:01] anybody using xmonad ? :-) [23:01] okay, no big deal. it's a new kernel setting for acpi firmware >= 4.0 [23:01] fhobia: sorry.. i dont do drugs :P [23:01] fhobia: I have a time or two. [23:01] lol [23:01] mrpwnage: biosdecode(8) [23:02] l_n: Thanks, that command should give me enough info to find out. [23:02] 2.0 [23:04] fhobia: did you have a question? [23:04] dmidecode(8) [23:04] mrpwnage: no, i was just excited [23:04] mrpwnage: i'm going to go try it soon [23:04] 8) [23:04] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [23:04] its times like these i remember why i use linux [23:04] OK, I just finished burning a disc in K3b [23:04] biosdecode worked, thanks rworkman [23:05] and now halfway through a second disc, it tells me cdrecord has no permission [23:05] What happened? [23:05] j0z_ (n=j0z@189.58.128.28) joined ##slackware. [23:05] mrpwnage: cool. biosdecode(8) doesn't give firmware version here, but dmidecode(8) does. [23:05] askhader (n=askhader@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:05] hmm [23:06] ACPI 2.0 present I guess that's the firmware. :D [23:06] no [23:07] mrpwnage: that [23:07] At least here, the first section of dmidecode output shows this: BIOS Information ... Firmware Revision: 1.3 [23:07] mrpwnage: that's the version of the ACPI standard that your board adheres to [23:07] mine says 1.0 [23:07] and SMBIOS 2.4 [23:07] smbios 2.5 here [23:08] is that a 956 chipset? [23:08] 965* [23:09] 82801g [23:09] Action: macavity blinks [23:09] i'm a little confused now [23:10] braindecode [23:10] me too.. i was talking about the mainboard chipset.. intel 965 [23:10] mine is i945 [23:11] the bridge shows as the above model though my graphics is 945gme [23:11] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [23:11] ah ok [23:11] mrpwnage: a netbook, i assume? [23:11] ich7 family [23:11] then you probably have a newer BIOS than i do [23:11] l_n: correct [23:13] well, it's not looking like the acpi firmware is 4.0 so i'll leave that option off for now. [23:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [23:18] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:18] hcfd (n=fed@host86-142-136-40.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:19] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-87-58-173.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Question: what is the best way to download youtube and whatever else *.flv *.swf etc.... wget? Firefox plugin, miro? [23:21] -_- [23:21] DownThemAll [23:21] video download helper [23:21] windows [23:21] company christmas party this week [23:21] this should be interesting [23:21] pirving: Windows? What? [23:22] pirving: youtube.pl [23:22] nevermind....I should ask in #firefox I guess sorry [23:22] lol [23:22] Question of the day [23:22] I do like youtube.pl [23:22] hang your head in shame as you depart this channel now [23:22] never [23:23] Linux geeks are mean people. :D [23:23] they can be [23:23] But you deserve it [23:23] So it's all good [23:23] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] pirving: does windows support perl? [23:23] I know just enough to be dangerous [23:23] Why is he here asking for Windows support? [23:23] lol [23:23] pirving: if so, youtube.pl $URL fetches the flash file and extract the .flv inside [23:23] windows does support perl [23:24] Action: pirving is running slack 13.0 [23:24] oh [23:24] paradroid (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:25] I don't own a win license [23:25] never will [23:25] at any rate firefox plugin it is [23:25] good man [23:25] thank you [23:25] good :-) [23:25] >>own a win license [23:25] lol [23:26] I came here to ask people who know something [23:26] Mefached (i=500@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:26] I'm not in #ubuntu asking [23:27] I learned most about linux (which isn't much) from this channel....no google, FAQ or HOW-TO can do that for me. I'd have to mine for ages. [23:27] That explains a lot, actually. [23:27] I guess it's not the right way of doing things....I don't mean to troll [23:28] I just like to see what, if anything you use....I'm on a crappy DSL 768Kb connection [23:28] pirving: manpages. lots of very useful info there once you learn how to understand them. [23:28] Y ou .........Tube..........takes..............for.......ever [23:29] man summary [23:29] what about this new kernel exploit problem...any thoughts? [23:29] ? [23:29] links or it didn't happen [23:30] http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=6820 [23:30] new? [23:30] dude [23:31] Published: 2009-07-17 [23:31] welcome to December, bro [23:31] when did 13.0 come out...I didn't compile my own kernel...I use stock [23:31] have you looked at the stock kernel source dir? [23:31] Action: pirving is an idiot [23:31] we know [23:31] hate me more [23:31] :P [23:32] i dont hate you [23:32] ignorance is bliss [23:32] LOL [23:32] bye folks.... [23:32] l8r [23:32] firedix_ (n=firedix@host206.201-252-145.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:32] and no.. ingorance is pain :P [23:32] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-87-58-173.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:32] ignorance is unrecognized pain. [23:33] you hurt, and you don't even know it. [23:33] firedix_ (n=firedix@host206.201-252-145.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:34] JK3MP (n=JK3MP@174-157-17-21.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:35] this is gay [23:35] Action: l_n loves a fresh OS install. [23:35] why? [23:35] so clean and pristine. no cruft. [23:35] bullshit [23:35] I installed ubuntu once and the shit was disgusting [23:36] It's interesting how jeev is the one to mention gay [23:36] Out of a completely gender neutral conversation, jeev finds gayness [23:36] matsuura: i was referring to any of the !newbie_friendly distributions. [23:37] i agree that some of the others are more bloated than OEM windows vista.. [23:37] wtf are you talking about? [23:37] slackware is newbie friendly.. [23:38] I was a slackware newbie once, I still navigated the ship quite well [23:38] o_o [23:38] cool story [23:38] ... [23:39] matsuura: slackware, debian, etc. have reputations as not being user friendly. [23:39] whether there's truth to that or not is another matter. [23:40] maybe these 'newbies' cannot read. [23:40] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:40] what about gnubies? [23:40] can they read? [23:40] no [23:40] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [23:41] quick, what year is it? [23:41] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:41] antiwire: gnubies? :P [23:41] 1988 [23:41] THEN THERES STILL TIME [23:41] Action: spook rushes off [23:41] spook: 2009.9267 [23:41] matsuura: most people that install [X,K,Ed]ubuntu and the ilk have no desire to read any docs or learn anything useful. [23:42] spook, wtf are you doing http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/07/detica_visit/ [23:42] l_n: that's like whipping your wang out and expecting it to work for you... [23:42] pretend to be a time traveller day [23:43] I don't know about matsuura but my wang does, indeed, "just work" [23:43] Maybe matsuura has some "issues" with his "package"? [23:43] firedix_ (n=firedix@host206.201-252-145.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [23:43] slackware 'just works' for me [23:44] but maybe because i know how to make it work for me :P [23:44] Oh man everyone... I think spook isn't drunk [23:44] i havent been drunk since friday [23:44] wtf is wrong with you? [23:44] spook: in recovery? [23:45] alcoholism isnt funny. [23:45] spook: i'm not joking. [23:45] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZL027046.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [23:45] Action: spook says, with a smile on his face [23:45] this is srs business. [23:45] -_- [23:45] l_n: oh, a freind of Bill W? [23:46] macavity: i'm not an addict/in recovery, if that's what you're asking. [23:46] my brother is an addict and won't get help. having seen what it does, i applaud anyone seeking help. [23:46] oh well.. at least you know wher to send people :P [23:47] i'm not seeking help [23:47] He's seeking more beer because he's out. [23:47] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:47] well, i did. i asked my friends who enjoy my drunken company to throw me an intervention party, but they were like, nah we'll be fine thanks. [23:47] those are real friends [23:48] they accept you for the drunkard you are. [23:49] one of them is my irresponsible friend and encourages my alcoholism, as kind of a joke. hes my reverse moral compass [23:50] macavity, so did you plan on running a vbox of slack64? [23:51] ChickenLittle: o [23:51] ChickenLittle: i'll run out of steady net in 2 days [23:51] which reminds me [23:51] ouch [23:52] spook: you're a Vet, aren't you? [23:53] agentc0re: a vet? which kind? [23:53] spook: War Vet. [23:53] which kind of war vet? [23:54] the battle field animal vet? or a veteran of a war? [23:54] spook: O_o [23:55] spook: http://tinyurl.com/ycp4vd6 [23:57] agentc0re: wtf. he was awarded the congressional medal of honor! [23:57] they should show some fucking respect. [23:58] he gets free airfares 4 lyfe [23:58] spook: Ya, no shit. and fuck you for giving me shit about asking if you were a vet. You knew what i meant. [23:58] agentc0re: it was all leading up to 'no, to all questions' [23:58] i was just being pedantic [23:58] this is irc. anyone who gets seriously upset about what happens on irc needs to be given a reality cehck [23:58] s/cehck/check [23:59] ChickenLittle: lol reposting [23:59] spook: I'd fly down there to stand in that HOA way if they decided to force fully remove it. [23:59] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:59] Can I have a reality check now, please? [23:59] bobby (n=bobby@76.249.228.114) joined ##slackware. [23:59] spook, different conversations, same principle [23:59] 8-) [23:59] ChickenLittle: who's upset? this is how spook and i converse. [23:59] agentc0re: if i had the money i'd fly there. my grandpa (recently deceased) was a vet of ww2 and korea [23:59] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Action: ChickenLittle shrugs [23:59] Ok no reality check...how about a beer [23:59] it's irc, can't see your face from here [00:00] --- Tue Dec 8 2009