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[00:14] sure it does, but something tells me based on the previous question, he was looking for something a little more... whats the word I'm looking for [00:15] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:17] girthy? :P [00:17] lol [00:17] hes looking for something with a size 13 shoe is what im saying [00:18] If he really just needs a partitioning tool, fdisk is more than adequate [00:19] Keep It Simple Sweetie [00:19] If he needed resizing, parted/gparted would be better [00:23] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) left irc: Quit: velusip [00:26] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] I agree hes less likely to hurt himself [00:29] Is there a safer way to mount samba shares than setting SUID +s on mount.cifs & umount.cifs? Something along sudoers maybe? [00:31] darkwurm_ (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [00:31] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/fusesmb/ [00:32] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:32] Nick change: darkwurm_ -> daekwurm [00:32] Nick change: daekwurm -> darkwurm [00:33] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:33] interesting rworkman [00:34] rworkman: Thanks, I'll have a look. I actually got that suggestion from the smb4k handbook, how flawed is that, security wise? [00:39] I don't know, to be honest; I've not used it. [00:39] The samba shares here don't get mounted on the unix machines; that's what NFS is for. [00:40] wertik_rus (~mirggi@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:40] What ab [00:40] What about setting SUID +s on a mount and umount command? [00:41] If that works for you, and your local users are trusted, then do that. It's easier. [00:41] can also present security issues on *nix machines getting ms machines mounted [00:41] but as rworkman notes, if you trust your users AND they have decent security checks on their systems ... [00:41] wertik_rus (~mirggi@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [00:42] If tthe local users are not trusted, but the ones needing to mount samba shares *are* trusted, then do something like this: make the mount.cifs binary suid root, with ownership of root:trustedgroup and mode 4750 [00:43] That was a bit redundant there - mode 4750 *is* suid :) -- the key point was that it's only executable by root and the group owner [00:43] That makes sense. ;-) Thank you. [00:46] alisonken1home: I just logged in on slackware..com (out of curiosity). Just FYI so you don't get concerned :) Unless you anticipate needing me on there again, probably not a bad idea to delete the account. Up to you though - you can alternatively change the password to some ridiculous 80 character randomness - my login is with a key anyhow [00:46] ok - you have your key setup then? [00:46] yes, I did that before starting on anything else :) [00:46] I can't stand to type passwords :) [00:47] ok - I'll disable login prompt [00:47] so I just star the password field in shadow should do it? [00:47] I think so. Try it and we'll see - that might disable the account completley [00:48] try now [00:48] In. It's good :) [00:49] ok [00:49] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:50] Oh, and to nitpick, in my GECOS field, s/ie/y/ please :) [00:50] done [00:50] Thanks :) [00:50] s/obby/ob [00:50] s/obby/ob/ also :) [00:50] if you'd like [00:51] Robby is cool [00:51] Yes I am. [00:51] :) [00:55] caught me on my night weekend duty [00:56] Ugh. Beats some alternatives, I guess [00:56] especially since it's o/t :) [00:56] and company required o/t at that [00:56] and I can do it at home (unless something _really_ dies at the noc) [00:58] john_dee (~id@95-29-145-104.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:59] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:01] Wow, that's nice. /me goes looking for a way to shut down that box ;-) [01:01] heh [01:02] heh [01:02] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:02] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:03] I'll give you a hint - the raid card would have to die :) [01:03] :D [01:03] pattwo (~pat@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:05] Just flash the raid card with a specially crafted file created from /dev/urandom [01:05] but only if he knows _which machine_ would need the "upgrade" [01:06] nooper (~nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) joined ##slackware. [01:12] I'm going to feel really bad if something happens and you really have to go in to work now :/ [01:13] I wouldn't worry too much about it. I actually enjoy the drive in to the office [01:13] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:13] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [01:14] petaflot (~dave@85-218-19-131.dclient.lsne.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:14] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:15] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:15] petaflot (~dave@85-218-19-131.dclient.lsne.ch) joined ##slackware. [01:15] macius (~maciuszek@i209-195-83-129.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:15] If you say so. :) [01:16] NFS vs. smbfs (fuse) [01:16] Same thing? Better? Worse? [01:18] not the same thing [01:18] not sure - but nfs has it's issues as well, just better understoo [01:23] tuvok302Lappy (~vircuser@S0106002215fa1b79.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:25] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:27] Well, the drive is in ad functional. Now I need to find a Tb of shit to download. [01:27] I'm really bummed out about this hdmi crap, though. [01:28] I mean, damn, it looks like straight feces. [01:28] vga was waaaay better [01:30] id you spring for a good cable? [01:30] id = did [01:32] $50 worth for a 6 footer. It's not the cable quality, I don't think so anyway. [01:32] from what I understand those cables come in at least two speeds [01:32] linuxed (~linuxed@cpe-66-91-253-199.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:32] hello? [01:32] nobody here [01:33] lol [01:33] if your components run at the higherspeed and you use the slower speed cable you can some wacko halos and weird fram issues [01:33] and it will actually degrade the quality [01:33] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:34] s/fram/frame [01:34] I wish I had wack halos and such. Instead my resolution is wacked out ( I can fix that) and the colors just suck. It's almost like it's trying to be so sharp its went to blurry [01:34] its for connecting pc to tv [01:35] odd indeed [01:35] This is what I got http://www.dynexproducts.com/pc-679-37-dynex-65-dvi-d-to-hdmi-cable.aspx [01:36] hey guys, i need some help with a linux question (boy do i feel like a noob suddenly)... [01:37] anyone mind helping me out? [01:37] just ask [01:37] slackwarebob (~bobby@76.249.232.130) joined ##slackware. [01:37] i recently got a rather lovely virus on my computer no thanks to my little dim-witted cousin, basically kicked me out of my windows OS. i found the prefetch files that are causing the issues while on backtrack, but can't delete them or change the permissions on them (system files). [01:37] My tv's native resolution is 1360x768, well within the range that cable is supposed to do [01:38] any idea how to bypass the system file nagging? lol [01:38] linuxed: boot to safe mode; download malwarebytes anti-malware.. run it [01:39] sadly, the prefetch prevents me from booting into safemode... i BSoD on startup lol [01:39] tried it already [01:39] hummmm [01:39] thats why i had to load my live cd [01:39] I read that alot of people have issues with the nvidia drivers when using hdmi but I cant remember what the default driver was when I installed. [01:40] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:41] do you guys know how to change permissions on system files for windows through the linux shell? [01:43] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:43] Windows thinks permissions is a really tart fruit. [01:44] i've noticed lol [01:45] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:45] You dont have the install disk? [01:46] what good will that do me if the malware is a prefetch file? o.o [01:46] hardly (~hardly@99.184.109.113) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:46] need to b creative. [01:47] Soyouthink you will be able to change file permissions but not copy the screwed files from the c and replace them? [01:47] cd* [01:48] i already tried replacing them in backtrack, it whined and bitched at me about being a read-only system file.. lol [01:48] It's prolly doing you a favor [01:48] What made you choose backtrack as your 'rescue' cd? [01:49] Boot the slackware install cd, installpkg kernel-modules, fuse, module-init-tools, ntfs-3g; run depmod -ae ; modprobe fuse ; mount the windows partition using ntfs-3g, do your stuff. [01:50] rworkman speaks the truth :P [01:50] or ateast it sounds like it lol [01:50] hmmm... [01:51] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [01:51] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik|wrk [01:51] any live cd with ntfs-3g will solve your issues. afaik backtrack doesn't have that by default [01:51] I've been down that road once or twice :) [01:52] and shame on you for cracking wep :P [01:52] eh? [01:53] I was speaking to the happening to have a backtrack cd handy ;) [01:54] i do pen testing @ home, BT isn't only used for wep cracking, silly [01:54] =P [01:54] while not the only use of that distro it is the "prevaling" use :P [01:55] kike7672 (1000@189.195.73.225) joined ##slackware. [01:55] i dunno... i think as far as the black-hats are concerned, with physical access to the machine its the perfect password bypass lol [01:56] at least thats been my experience back in high school... [01:56] not that i took part in that, mind you ;) [01:56] haha [01:58] ill give rworkman's solution a try now [01:58] crap... i forgot [01:58] no intrnet on that laptop [01:58] haha [01:59] linuxed, wait half a hour and look in the logs..:D [01:59] huh...? [01:59] no, my laptop doesn't have an internet connection [01:59] sorry...didn't see you stated no internet [02:00] lol its ok [02:00] i'm going to maul that little brat one of these days... [02:01] first he decides to take tin-snips to my ethernet cable.. then goes and installs a malware packed game on my computer from a cd his friend gave him -.- [02:02] why on earth would people download a freaking livecd to do wep cracking? [02:02] i mean.. why not just use their regular OS? [02:02] linuxed: now that I think about it backtrack should have ntfs-3g support [02:02] linuxed: pull the drive out, stick it in a PC that isn't 'bad' and run malwarebytes on it [02:02] backtrack comes with a veriety of goodies [02:02] macavity: cause they watched a youtube video [02:02] macavity: leaves less of a trace then :) [02:02] injection in monitor mode works on both my rt73usb and iwl3945 out of the box [02:02] but I like darkwrum's idea as well [02:03] darkwurm: ahhh.. the shining bright enlightenment that is youtube.... [02:03] lol [02:03] brb [02:03] hehehe If the backtrack guys had a nickel for ever teenager with a burned backtrack cd, they'd be billionares [02:04] tuvok302Lappy (~vircuser@S0106001c10c1d002.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] most likely [02:04] i blame that turkish hacker guy thats got a bunch of videos on there [02:05] "hacker" [02:05] and if we had a nickel for every time some lame ass dingdong comes in here with backtrack claiming it to be slackware... [02:05] he's just a friggin script kiddie like the rest of them [02:05] if i had 1/10th of a penny for every bit of awesomeness i have, i'd be richer than the last 10 years of worldwide GDP cumulative [02:06] wow, that went so far over my head that i dunno wtf just happened [02:06] lol [02:06] jeev: either that or in the economic slump you'd be dirt poor [02:06] jeev: that doesn't add up right... [02:06] 1337 5c|2ip7 | f4il [02:06] Dominian, worldwide GDP is still in the trillions [02:06] dear god, did I fall down a rabbit hole to 1993 [02:06] darkwurm, how doesn't it add up right [02:06] lol [02:07] jeev: taxes would kill you, hence you'd be poor [02:07] @@@@@@@@ mAcRo KIlLer @@@@@@ [02:07] hehe i miss the aol days [02:07] assholes on-line? [02:07] sure [02:07] Dominian, taxes included.. they're nothing [02:07] i'd pay the tax and get it refunded due to awesomeness [02:07] I remember the days when you could boot someone off yahoo chat with crafted messages to them [02:07] isn't it still the numberone internet provider worldwide? [02:08] winnuke ftw [02:08] winnuke haha it is 1993 [02:08] :) [02:08] yea, i'd right click with 7th sphere and try to winnuke, it'd never work [02:08] then i'd papasmurf them to hell [02:09] 7th sphere lol [02:09] ok stupid question... [02:09] wertik|wrk (~wertik@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [02:09] god [02:09] how do i mount my ntfs using ntfs-3g? lol [02:09] linuxed, before you ask.. we dont know anything bout sex change operations [02:09] although thumbs may know [02:10] sorry jeev, i don't swing your kinks ;) [02:10] I liked the oob nuke best, nothing like instant blue screens [02:10] or the POD [02:10] darkwurm, too bad it's still around [02:11] btw, it still works on a windows95 :P [02:11] haha [02:11] too bad the BSOD's nowadays happen randomly and you do them to yourself [02:11] yeah by turning the computer on :P [02:11] lol [02:11] just vista [02:11] im about to go windows 7 soon [02:12] i'm on vista, aint that bad [02:12] key word [02:12] jeev: I'm sorry [02:12] aint THAT bad [02:12] lol [02:12] dont be, i get to play a lot of games :) [02:12] click very easily.. it's fun. [02:12] jeev, you have noticed that the OS alone eats up 2 gigs of ram, right? [02:13] Original Install Date: 1/31/2009, 12:49:39 AM [02:13] i have a bunch of shit open and only 2.08GB in use [02:13] jeev: thats what lilo is for :P [02:13] earlier i had 11.3 or some odd gigs used [02:13] darkwurm, i have 47 computers and 100+ servers [02:13] i think i deserve to enjoy a good desktop [02:14] i wouldn't las with all the shit i do in linux [02:14] my buddy and i did a bit of a hack on vista... brought vista down to 512mb min by deleting all that auxiliry shit they put on there... lol [02:14] yea i did that too once but didn't like it [02:14] win 7 is pretty good though [02:14] jeev: OSX is a good desktop, windows has directx and office :P [02:15] darkwurm, i'd rather be castrated by multiple mountain goats and a single EMU before i use OSX [02:15] it disgusts me [02:15] i LOVE xp.. but too bad 64bit support blows [02:15] jeev: don't be a bsd hater :P [02:15] i love bsd [02:15] ok bbiab [02:16] osx = bsd with lipstick [02:16] and a tight ass :P [02:16] and a serious fucking attitude [02:17] someone ought to smack that bitch down... [02:17] my god.. i cant remember shit from linux today [02:17] until macavity opened his mouth, it was selling for me ;) [02:17] lol [02:17] BP{k}++ [02:17] how do i stop a mounted volume? [02:18] thats how it is with proprietary software.. everything looks so good, and nice, and sexy.. and comes with a complemtary blowjob [02:18] trying to umount my hda1, but its busy lol [02:18] ... untill you open the shrink wrap [02:18] lol [02:18] then it gets: Go do the dishes or you dont get p***** [02:19] thats when you reformat the bitch [02:20] i needz mah Offic upgraded, caus all the other peoples computers haz gotten office 2007 too.. i will bitch at you every time we see a file from the new office untill you get me a new office new office new office [02:21] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433737.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:21] threaten to load OS/2 on her :P [02:22] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-209-157.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:23] One of my classmates got his first computer about 6 months ago [02:23] OS/2 is only mildly more obedient than any other proprietary OS [02:23] he got so frustrated with it he yanked it from the wall [02:23] the "mildly" is due to the fact that it saw its last service release in a time where people were less occostumed to being bend over by their own computer [02:24] threw it in the back of his truck [02:24] drove out to the forest and unloaded a .40 clip into it [02:24] interesting... i have yet to mange to fix a bug that way.. [02:25] *manage [02:25] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:25] nor I but there has been a number of times I wish I had the balls to do that to my pc over the years [02:27] I think I have once come close to actually throwing a laptop through a window [02:27] it looks like stupidity at very high velocity to me :P [02:27] linuxed (~linuxed@cpe-66-91-253-199.san.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Chicken Little was right. [02:27] BP{k}: twenty minutes with Vista does that to me [02:27] loosing 3 hours of work when you have to finish your thesis in 6 hours .. kinda gets you to that point [02:28] ooooh [02:28] 2 minutes in windows does that to me [02:28] in other words waiting to login [02:28] and im already done [02:28] :P [02:29] for me it happens around the 20th time i hit the paragraph button (where i have yakuake bound) [02:30] for me it's about the 5th time the wife asks me why her windows (xp/vista/7) machine won't do what she wants [02:33] Axius (~fd@92.82.86.180) joined ##slackware. [02:34] lol [02:36] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.73.71) joined ##slackware. [02:37] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-219-178.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] sounds like a mac candidate to me [02:38] I wish - the problem is the church is all windows right now - and the pastor's wife is a teacher, and "everybody runs windows" ... yadayadayada [02:38] darylc (~darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) joined ##slackware. [02:38] yeah [02:39] theres always VM :P [02:39] nice thought :) [02:40] darylc (~darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Client Quit [02:40] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [02:40] im lucky my girl hates windows when something fails she blames it [02:40] as she should [02:42] kike7672 (1000@189.195.73.225) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:42] _Strykar (~wakka@122.170.27.200) joined ##slackware. [02:43] can't believe churches expect people to give 10% of their wages to them, so they can buy fancy cars [02:44] darkwurm, how does girl know what a windows is? [02:44] as if thats the most amazing thing they've convinced them [02:44] Gargantua: work [02:44] heh [02:45] jeev, how does a church drive a char? [02:45] you know who i'm talking bout [02:45] car, I've been in C-making mode too long O_O [02:45] jeev: depends on the church and their actual beliefs [02:45] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.54.224) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:46] Hey do mosques qualify? [02:46] dunno y0 [02:46] Gargantua: with devine help naturally [02:46] no [02:46] There's shitloads of them around here [02:46] No churces [02:46] correcaminos (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [02:47] do they take 10%? [02:47] waitresses take 15% and i don't even get a afterlife [02:48] just crappy service and a emote on my ticket [02:48] heh [02:48] yea i think tipping is overrated [02:48] i dont care what they do and what is good karma and all that shit [02:49] i can afford to tip but paying someone 15% is too much, 5% is good. [02:49] darkwurm: biblical tithe is 10% of first fruits, but the typical church doesn't enforce it, it's between God and the individual [02:49] 15% and you still feel bad even after they fuck up your order [02:49] alisonken1home, but god doesn't get to spend the money. [02:49] jeev: need to go back and _study_ then [02:50] i've never read it, i'm "supposed" to be a christian [02:50] however - since that's not a slackware topic, it should be moved to somewhere else [02:50] i do however say thank god when anything goes well [02:51] alisonken1home: agreed, religion and politics should steer clear of ##slackware [02:51] How can I start a programm in background? [02:51] Axius: command & [02:52] I don't understand the process of tips [02:52] I want to buy 4 donuts [02:52] Gargantua: no one does [02:52] I pay the price of 4 donuts to your employeer. [02:52] tips are above and beyound for good service - supposedly [02:52] but again, that's OT [02:52] He gives your a cut of the profits for your serving services [02:52] i'd rather pay the guy who comes and cleans the damn tables than some brat ass waiter [02:52] I want to start cmus. [02:53] jeev, what about the guy that cleans the toilet? [02:53] no one would work it if it weren't for the tips [02:53] the waiters/waitresses share tips with the busboy and dishwasher [02:53] Action: Gargantua used to clean toilets in Tim Hortin's [02:53] Axius: cmus? [02:53] not in the US anyways [02:53] When we got tips we had to put them in the tip container [02:53] Gargantua: not supprising [02:53] Axius, after you type cmus& in your terminal..any errors? [02:53] To be divided equally [02:53] Fucking communism, man., [02:53] Gargantua: socialist :P [02:54] communism and socialism rules [02:54] Obama and change all up in here [02:54] and in the case of communism with a iron fist [02:54] i hope obama can get these moron americans to accept a single payer [02:54] in Denmark the menu cards actually say "all prices include servicing" at the bottom to make sure people know the waiters get a real salary regardless of tip [02:55] jeev: obama can't do jack [02:55] darkwurm, that's right. when you have toothless redneck's that make less than 20k/year screaming keep yoru government hands off my non-healthcare... you can't. [02:55] macavity, that's terrific. [02:55] I'm moving to Denmark. [02:55] Gargantua, denmark has like a 60% tax rate or some shit [02:55] he's just enough left to scare people into not listening to him clearly [02:56] darkwurm, no.. the right has scared everyone into oblivion [02:56] Gargantua: you'll like the universial health care too then :P [02:56] Nah we got that in Canada [02:56] I get this message when I want to open cmus in background:cmus is already listening on socket /home/jfo/.cmus/socket. [02:56] But without dentistry/optics. [02:57] Axius: what is cmus? [02:57] Gargantua: oh, same as here then :-) [02:57] but macavity a console music player. [02:57] I guess blind toothless people don't deserve healthcare >:( [02:57] I've got an uncle that's blind and toothless, it's no laughing matter. [02:58] Axius: and you checked with ps whatever it is actually running? if not, just remove the socket file and start it again [02:58] I like how slack this channel is (get it lolol?) [02:58] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:59] it running, but I dont hear the music. [02:59] Axius, what format of files are you running? [03:00] pipes (~pipes@freedomisnothingtofear.com) joined ##slackware. [03:00] Gargantua: oh, if you need more than some specified correction you get optics on healthcare here too.. and for bigger dental stuff you pay like 10%, unless a doctor outright proscribes it, then it is free (eg, if you have infection in the jaw bone, or need protesis etc) [03:00] mp3 [03:00] Yeah I think it's the same here too, but for routine dentist visits and eye corrections, no healthcare. [03:01] Oh, under 18 get free dentistry though. [03:01] Axius, which output plugin are you using? alsa,oss? [03:01] MLanden: I use alsa. [03:01] Gargantua: same here [03:02] Axius, check alsamixer and tell me what level main and pcm are [03:02] Gargantua: wait.. i think healtcare actually covers some of the anestetic [03:02] Gargantua: probably to make sure it doesnt become a bigger issue it would have to cover anyway ;-) [03:03] Hehe [03:06] MLanden: pcm and Master are at 100%. [03:07] Axius, when you play that same mp3 file in another player..are you able to hear it? [03:07] tuvok302Lappy_ (~vircuser@S0106001c10c1d002.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] tuvok302Lappy_ (vircuser@S0106001c10c1d002.cg.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [03:09] MLanden: yes, I hear. cmus works normal when is not in background. [03:11] Axius, check their website and see how to manipulate the cmus-remote command [03:11] MLanden: thank you. [03:12] Axius, you could also try mocp..it has a background socket intigrated into the program..good luck [03:14] Hope you guys are up for a real idiot style question. I'm having to change my xorg.conf around to make use of this nifty dvi-hdmi cable I just got. When X is not running the resolution is still to low and I cant see what I'm typing so I'm wanting to try something that I think might work. [03:14] ok [03:15] did you try _not_ using an xorg.conf file and use xrandr instead? [03:15] I want to put my new xorg.conf in place then write a lil script that will put my old one back in place, then when I go to 'startx' I want to 'startx||fixme instead, the script will be called fixme. [03:16] WiIf startx fails will it execute my script? [03:16] you can modify startx (it's just another script) if you want to go that far [03:17] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-89.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:32] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:35] Well thanks for the suggestion. Later guys [03:35] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:39] lioil (~oli@r11no54.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [03:39] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:41] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:41] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.73.71) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:42] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-24.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:50] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-219-178.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:50] nice day to all. wuth the natural shine of a sun ikuninate everyone... [03:52] "iluminate", escuse... [03:53] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:13] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [05:13] Hello [05:13] yo [05:15] my Arabic language is messed up and the arabic letters are displayed as wierd symbols [05:15] at dolphin [05:16] What is the cause of this problem? [05:16] using kde? [05:16] yes [05:17] kde 4.2 [05:17] in50mn1a (~insomnia@77.78.146.158) joined ##slackware. [05:17] might be a better question in #kde, but I would imagine that the i18n kde libs are not all installed [05:17] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:18] tuvok302 (~vircuser@S0106001c10c1d002.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [05:19] in50mn1a (~insomnia@77.78.146.158) left irc: Client Quit [05:21] What is the best slackpkg mirror? [05:21] SOUL_OF_R00T (l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Fui embora [05:21] I like slackware.mirrors.tds.net myself [05:22] Does it have more packages? [05:22] I like slackware.no and ftp.lip6.fr =) [05:23] (partly because ftp.lip6.fr is currently like 1km away from me) [05:23] it has the same packages as the official slackware [05:24] for something not in the official slackware tree, try slackbuilds.org (no packages, just slackbuilds to make packages) [05:25] alisonken1home:I use sbopkg for managing slackbuilds packages [05:29] good choice [05:31] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:31] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [05:33] the kde-l10n-ar-4.2.4-noarch-1 package is already installed but the same issue exists [05:34] might want to hit up the #kde channel then [05:35] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:36] ok thanks alis [05:36] rek (~riccardo@host170-182-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:37] hi [05:37] can i do slackpkg install something? [05:38] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:38] Sorry to keep bugging you guys but I'm getting really frustrated here. I added this line to my xorg.conf Option "CustomEDID" "DFP-0:/home/stonedslacker/edid.bin" [05:39] My question is, the DFP-0, does that 0 need to be the same name as my monitor instead of zero? [05:39] correcaminos (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:39] might be a question of what xrandr sees [05:40] rek: as long as the package is in the mirror, yes [05:40] if it's not an official slackware package, then check out sbopkg and slackbuilds.org [05:40] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:40] Heres my whole xorg, its not long http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/t3X1zf70.html [05:41] have you tried not using an xorg.conf and use xrandr instead yet? [05:41] I'm wondering if I should replace that zero with SamsungLns4041D [05:41] no sir, I have never even heard of xranr [05:42] alisonken1home: ok then have you got some pieces of advice to use slack ? [05:42] the program is 'xrandr' [05:42] rek: such as? once it's installed, it's pretty stable and I like it [05:43] rek: you might want to review the slackbook as well [05:43] i have a cd called nimblex but it does not download the packages [05:43] in the library ? [05:43] nimblex is not slackware - it may be related but this channel pretty much only works with slackware [05:43] such as... differencies i will find [05:44] NimbleX is slax-based iirc (or linux-live-based, can't remember) [05:44] do you know edman ? [05:44] since I don't use other distro's I can't really say [05:44] iirc ? [05:44] edman007? [05:45] yep [05:45] seen him around - don't really know him [05:45] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-204-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:45] xrandr calls it screen 0. It is also saying my max resolution is 1280x720 which is wrong [05:45] i'm speaking with him in these months [05:45] i have been speaking * [05:45] StonedSlacker: you have to do some work with xrandr to get all monitors working [05:46] do you use X ? [05:46] I don't have the steps/commands on the top of my head atm [05:46] rek: yes [05:46] I had trouble getting x setup right with vga too but once I figured out where it likes to be tickled it was all good. This little adventure is not going that way. [05:46] do you use kde? [05:46] you should see the fun I have with my laptop [05:46] rek: of course [05:46] Okay, so I need to go read up on xrandr I suppose. Thanks for the advice [05:47] man xrandr =) [05:47] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [05:47] is that cool? [05:47] I like it [05:47] Camarade_Tux: You mean xrandr is the man! [05:48] StonedSlacker: KDE has krandr in KDE menu's System if you use it.. [05:48] which one will i have in the dvd? [05:48] both [05:49] mrpwnage (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ppujzlpuwrfyiwoe) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [05:49] whta [05:49] kde 4 ? [05:49] yes [05:49] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:49] Its not in my kde4 [05:49] lol [05:49] I will get it though [05:49] what? [05:49] search "krandr" [05:50] krandr [05:50] in the search box of the menu [05:50] wheree [05:50] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [05:50] click on the "K" -> search -> krandr [05:50] it defaults to a blue monitor in your tray [05:51] Part of kde workspace, none of which is install on my machine. Gogo gadget slackpkg [05:51] i want to burn the iso in a dvd-rw but i think it's slow [05:51] i don't have kde [05:51] no, I was wrong [05:52] rek: there's the cli option of burning a cd/dvd - look at the notes and README [05:52] s on the ddvd [05:52] dvd [05:52] cli? [05:52] yes [05:52] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [05:52] "command line interface" [05:52] dunno what you mean [05:52] think dos terminal [05:52] instead of x ? [05:53] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-87-191.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:53] terminal in X [05:53] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-52-158.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:53] so? [05:53] you can burn a cd/dvd from the cli using cdrecord [05:53] there's a bunch of options to it, so be prepared [05:53] i can do it also from x... hw thank you for cdrecord [05:54] hmm, its not showing up when I search with slackpkg and googling doesnt seem to turn up the project's home page, just a bunch of download sites. Where is the project hosted at? I'd like to download from there if possible. [05:54] i thinkdvdrw is slow itself [05:54] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [05:54] StonedSlacker: are you talking about krandr? [05:54] yes [05:54] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-86.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:55] did you do the search in the kde menu for it? [05:55] Yeah, I dont have it [05:55] did you do a full install of slackware? [05:55] in our school ther's knoppix [05:55] well, I tried krandr on the command line [05:55] It should be the fullest of full, I'm running current [05:56] do you have /usr/bin/krandrtray ? [05:56] Getting to my menu is a bitch right now I cant even see it it's so far off the screen [05:58] Holy crap! Yeah I have that but now one letter is likr 6 inches tall lol [05:58] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:58] How do I cycle through? [05:59] I _think_ it's [05:59] in an emergency try and see if that kills the X session [06:00] Thats what it used to be because I remember it and have been trying it all night with no luck. I did manage to get the selection dialog up and it still only offers me a max of 1280xsomething [06:00] I have it clearly written in my xorg.conf 1366x768, it just ignores me [06:01] what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say about it? something to check [06:01] I'll check right now but while I'm checking you reminded me, how do I 'startx' in verbose mode? [06:02] startx is a script - if you want to see the output of it, then on the shebang line add a "+x" [06:02] #!/bin/sh -x [06:02] sorry - "-x" (dash x) [06:03] however, that only shows the commands that startx is running [06:04] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:05] http://pastebin.com/d20e74d4 [06:06] tuvok302Lappy (~vircuser@S0106001c10c1d002.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] Ok, well during my digging around for clues I read that one guy was able to startx verbosely and piece together what was broken [06:07] I usually just ctl-alt-F1 to see what x is doing but that one post led me to believe I was missing out some of it [06:08] Shit lol, I didnt realise I copied the whole freakin terminal [06:08] :) [06:09] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [06:09] anyway - I need some sleep - have to be up in an hour [06:09] e01_ (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:09] nah, just stay up ;-) [06:10] i am wondering where in slackware current will apear new glib [06:10] well, it's up in an hour to check the servers, then another hour nap, then check the servers, then ... [06:10] thanks for your help alison [06:10] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-86.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:10] helloape (~58c1712e@gateway/web/freenode/x-ymmqxbklvjnioiza) joined ##slackware. [06:10] hi peoples [06:10] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-86.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:10] i am trying to compile mplayerplug-in [06:11] but i think xulrunner is not found [06:15] omg, I'm about to freak out. Ithink I know what's wrong and if it is I'm gonna bash my head into the floor until I pass out, brb [06:16] StonedSlacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:18] well, it would bein character [06:18] Action: adaptr popcorns and settles down for the wait [06:18] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:18] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-216-252.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [06:19] Action: alisonken1home grabs the blankie and settles down for a nap [06:22] sleeping for an hour is overkill [06:22] helloape (~58c1712e@gateway/web/freenode/x-ymmqxbklvjnioiza) left irc: Quit: Page closed [06:22] you're gonna wake up much worst than you would be if you didnt sleep at all [06:24] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434172.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:25] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [06:27] well, if he can sleep again after that, it should be ok [06:27] R4md4c (~ramdac@41.233.29.209) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:28] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-151-41-43.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:29] hi i'm sad [06:30] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs rek [06:30] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-129-186-136.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:31] what does hug mean ? [06:31] google for "free hug" ;-) [06:32] sounds like ECHAN [06:33] abbracciarsi [06:45] prhg (1000@a88-112-227-110.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:45] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:45] hi all! [06:46] mrpwnage (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-hpydautkmnkkkdtp) joined ##slackware. [06:51] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.27.188) joined ##slackware. [06:54] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.209.97) joined ##slackware. [06:54] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:58] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.83.226) joined ##slackware. [07:00] prhg (1000@a88-112-227-110.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left ##slackware. [07:01] prhg (1000@a88-112-227-110.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:02] hi! where do I find X server package? I am quite new to slack (just installed ). I installed the slacpkg. How do I install X with that? [07:03] slackpkg search xorg ? [07:04] thx [07:06] slackware packets are i486 and I have intel mobile processor it is i686 can anybody say how much faster they will be if I recompile them with optimized cflags etc. [07:06] marginal at best [07:06] but be me guest, of course [07:06] *my [07:06] bleh [07:07] it's ok adaptr, things like that happen :) [07:11] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:11] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:13] I have installed xorg with slackpkg but startx doesn't work ;_;. What else do I need? Or am I doing something wrong? [07:15] what does it mean it doesn't work? any error message? [07:16] and what and how have you installed? why were you lacking it at first? [07:16] you'll need a DE as well; install one [07:18] i have twm [07:18] madbear (~dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [07:20] hehehe :P [07:20] anyway, *how* does startx fail? [07:22] command not found [07:22] so i dont have X [07:23] and which package have you installed? only xorg-server or others too? [07:23] only xorg [07:23] what else do I need [07:23] and have you explicitely skipped X during install? [07:23] prhg: basically, you need everything in x/ [07:23] so I did [07:23] damn [07:25] once you've installed everything in x/, you'll get startx [07:26] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.209.97) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:29] slackpkg install slackware/x [07:29] slackpkg install slackware/kde [07:29] slackpkg install slackware/xap [07:29] thx [07:29] This should resolve your problem :) [07:30] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:30] xap? [07:31] x additional progras [07:31] programs [07:32] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.251) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:32] ah [07:33] can i burn the iso in a dvd rw ? it's slow i think [07:33] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:34] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [07:34] sure [07:34] the only problem might be if your computer dvd reader has a problem booting from dvdrw media [07:35] alisonken1home: i don't remember how to mount the cdrom [07:36] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC300C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:36] you don't mount it to burn it [07:36] but i'm using k3b and... i don't see it [07:36] so i need to mount it [07:37] if it doesn't see it then it's either already burned or it's not a dvd burner [07:37] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [07:37] however how can i do it [07:37] already burned [07:37] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3043A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:37] how can i mount it [07:38] you're not running kde, correct? [07:38] correct [07:38] what does "grep cdrom /etc/fstab" show? [07:38] mount /dev/cdrom0 /mnt/dvd ok ? [07:38] there should be more there, but give it a try [07:39] /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [07:39] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:41] what version of slackware are you running? [07:41] no one [07:41] mythbuntu 9.04 [07:41] ah [07:41] in xfce [07:41] and.... i did nautilus because i don't like thunar much [07:42] everyone has a favorite (or least favorite) :) [07:42] eg sudo fdisk -l ill give you the disks... what's the command for the dvd [07:42] mount /media/cdrom0 [07:44] riccardo@riccardo-desktop:/mnt/209GB$ sudo mount /media/cdrom0 [07:44] mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0 [07:44] did the light blink on the dvd player? [07:44] no [07:44] is your dvd player different than your cd player? [07:45] no [07:45] hmm [07:45] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:45] what does it say on your dvd player? (embedded/stamped/labeled) on the face of the dvd player? [07:46] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:47] nothing,changed dvd and it work [07:47] ok [07:47] the dvd was.... crap i think [07:47] possible [07:47] I've also seen that happen when a cd/dvd is burned at too fast a speed on some cheaper cd/dvd media [07:47] they told me slackware is the best [07:48] I've been running it for over 10 years [07:48] slackware is the best [07:48] now it is time to give it a damn try [07:48] since slackbuilds.org and slackpkg are out, nothing but improvements [07:50] vhann (~vhann@142-217-83-39.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] slk 13 [07:51] Is it normal that /usr/bin/crontab is setuid root on my system? [07:51] Shouldn't it belong to group cron and have setguid ? [07:52] why ? [07:52] setuid root allows it to change who it's running as [07:53] so user crontabs get run as that user [07:54] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:54] alisonken1home: um. that's possible without setuid root, since cron(8) runs as root - it can su to anybody it pleases once started [07:54] how do I manage which daemons start @boot? [07:54] will my dvd rw be very slow? [07:55] look at /etc/cron.daily cron.weekly and others [07:55] alisonken1home: however, if cron(8) runs asa cron user, then it will upgrade privileges to execute user crontabs [07:55] phrag: chmod -/+x in /etc/rc.d, or pkgtool -> setup [07:55] for that, it does need setuid root [07:55] adaptr: not necessarily [07:55] also cron.hourly which i put a little executable script to run ntpd once an hour [07:56] I remember a fuse-based filesystem for portable music players that automatically converted your .flac files to .ogg , anyone remember the name? [07:56] i 'm burning slackware 13 right? [07:56] we don't know [07:56] either 13.0 or current :) [07:56] we want to crack the eifi [07:56] at school [07:57] personally, -current is better since it upgraded kde to 4.3 [07:57] that's great, however, not related to slackware in any conceivable way [07:57] why? the school admin will fix it and you could get in trouble [07:57] oh no... ok but what kd will i have_? [07:58] because he took away our teacher's wifi router [07:58] kde 4.2 [07:58] rek: great! wholly unrelated to slackware [07:58] eee are you sure? i think it's a little related :-) [07:58] i'm going to eat now [07:58] see ya later [07:59] gazra (~quassel@nrbg-4dbe710d.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:05] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-87-191.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:05] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [08:09] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [08:11] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-216-252.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:12] Hi, after extract the tar archive of slax-6.1.2 in my usb stick and run bootinst.sh instead of my slackware 13 it's print an error [08:12] /media/disk/slax-6.1.2/boot/bootinst.sh: line 53: ./boot/syslinux/lilo: No such file or directory [08:12] slax is not slackware [08:12] means it's not mounted [08:12] syslinux only works on mounted drives [08:12] mounted it [08:14] If I want to start hald @ boot I must do chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.hald? Is it so? [08:14] prhg: true [08:15] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.83.226) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:15] how do I can cancel them from starting? I dont need rc.pcmia [08:15] chmod -x daemon [08:16] thx [08:16] spmd (~loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [08:17] unable to O_EXCL/dev/sr0 someone was in time to remount? [08:17] prhg (1000@a88-112-227-110.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:17] Camarade_Tux: I only know mp3fs, which does flac->mp3 [08:18] pprkut: I lied about the ogg part, but if it does mp3, it's fine too =) [08:19] (and should be easily hackable [08:19] ) [08:20] rek (~riccardo@host170-182-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [08:21] pprkut: do you know if it can split a single .flac file into several .mp3/ogg files according to a .cue file? [08:21] (I think I'll have to hack it by myself according to cueprint [ from cuetools [[on sbo]]]) [08:21] would anyone know why my keyboard on a kvm switch won't work with one computer? i have legacy USB enabled in the BIOS [08:22] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-54.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Camarade_Tux: no idea :/ [08:25] pprkut: afaict, it doesn't so I'll just hack it myself (tm) [08:27] pyry (1000@a88-112-227-110.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. 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I rebooted and K3b had no problems [08:44] mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /media/dvd [08:44] rek: you have no way of knowing it will be iso9660 [08:44] i read on a web page [08:44] Pig_Pen: why? [08:44] the kernel module for cdrom is isofs, for dvd it is udf [08:46] already mounted or dvd busy [08:47] i hadn't to do this change in the past [08:47] "mount" and see where /dev/sr0 is mounted already [08:47] you want a line for fstab? since you will be mounting both cdrom and dvd in /dev/sr0 you will have to use auto for the filesystem column [08:47] http://www.nerdist.com/images/ghostbusters-desktop.jpg bahaha [08:48] or [08:48] nice one [08:49] /dev/sr0 / auto,isofs,udf noauto,defaults 0 0 [08:49] there isn't any sr0 [08:50] rek: pull your head out of your butt and get your dvd devices identified if you want them to work [08:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:50] right [08:51] i bet /dev/dvd is a symlink pointing to /dev/sr0 or sr1 or whatever device it is [08:51] i shouldn't think to grils so much.... [08:51] read dmesg it will show you [08:52] you can think about grils later, after you get your OS straightened out [08:52] [ 2.202511] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray [08:53] yeah it's like an obsession isnt it? [08:53] there ya are, /dev/sr0 [08:53] gyroscope (~master@85.104.78.31) joined ##slackware. [08:53] gyroscope (~master@85.104.78.31) left irc: Changing host [08:53] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [08:54] vhann (~vhann@142-217-83-39.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:54] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:54] epoch, LOL [08:55] I like how slimer is in true form when minimized. [08:55] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:56] isofs [08:57] dev/sr0 /home/riccardo/Scrivania auto,isofs,udf,noauto,defaults 0 0 [08:58] that should do it, but if you change defaults to users you can mount your dvd without needing to use sudo or su [08:59] /dev/sr0 /home/riccardo/Scrivania auto,isofs,udf,noauto,users 0 0 [08:59] /dev/sr0 /home/riccardo/Scrivania auto,isofs,udf noauto,users 0 0 [09:00] without the , ? or with the comma [09:01] wasn't it user ? [09:01] King_Ozzy (King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left ##slackware. [09:01] no it is users [09:01] does this layout change in different distro? [09:02] /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 i found this line in my fstab [09:03] http://imagebin.org/83721 heres mine [09:03] tuvok302Lappy (~vircuser@S0106001c10c1d002.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:03] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:04] does this mean I have to show you mine now too? [09:04] to me? [09:04] yup, everybody comare fstab ;p [09:04] k [09:06] http://pastebin.com/m27a98e50 [09:06] the last line....is the one i added [09:06] wait [09:07] this isnt slackware [09:08] rek (~riccardo@host170-182-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [09:08] imposter! [09:08] heh [09:11] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [09:11] ChArLoK_16 (1000@188.247.14.100) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [09:12] dangerseeker (~dangersee@p57A8F8F0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] spmd (~loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:17] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:21] rek (~riccardo@host170-182-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:21] with that link the dv makes strange rumors [09:21] noises [09:21] like when you reset the pc [09:21] line* dvd [09:22] rek: what distro are you running, from the looks of that fstab UUID it seems to be sort of debianish [09:22] mrpwnage (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-hpydautkmnkkkdtp) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:22] mount: unknown filesystem type 'defaults' [09:22] we did a mess lol Pig_Pen [09:22] mythbuntu [09:23] we? no, its all your mess [09:23] lol [09:23] no,you told me that line [09:23] :-) [09:24] this is ##slackware i was under the impression you were using slackware, but you are using something else which is knowledge i was not privy to [09:25] he is ? [09:25] unbleievable [09:25] !sweet [09:26] you're right too but i said it before lol [09:26] i tried to correct the line [09:26] http://pastebin.com/mf9ee39b [09:26] i'm doing this to burn slackware 13 into a dvd with k3b [09:27] rek: ask in your distro's support channel [09:27] reboot [09:27] and you've been at that for over an hour ?!? [09:27] yeah [09:27] perhaps ubuntu would be a better choice [09:27] i used it too much [09:27] you wore it out ? [09:27] looky here, i have no knowledge of mythbuntu's idiosyncrasies so i can not help you [09:28] wore? [09:28] the only relevant thing I can think of is also present in slackware [09:28] i try to reboot [09:28] rek (~riccardo@host170-182-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [09:28] I hope he gess stuck [09:29] yeah, reboot, that should fix it, and if it doesnt reboot it again and again and again until it does [09:29] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.149) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Pig_Pen: you're telling me you don't ? :P [09:29] that was for rek [09:29] rek is a wreck [09:30] you spent an hour with tthis guy ? [09:30] i am afraid so [09:30] i just dont understand people [09:30] the definition of a psychosis is an expectation that repeating the same actions will yield different results. by that definition, all Windows users are psychotic [09:30] i should sue him for an hour's wages [09:30] lol [09:30] lol [09:31] Pig_Pen: double time, it's sunday [09:31] yeah and @ 50 dollars an hour [09:31] so i should get 100 bucks [09:31] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:32] triple time it's SUPER-BOWL-SUNDAY hhhhhhhhhhh [09:32] if I got 100 bucks for every idiot who couldn't find his arse with an atlas, I'd stop working today [09:32] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:32] #football on efnet is going to be FUN today [09:32] we need an option on slackware to auto identify its version on irc [09:33] ( Operating System ) Linux Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 Kernel: 2.6.29.6-smp, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 1.6.3 | Desktop: Xfce v@VERS | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.8.6 [09:33] like that ? [09:33] hah yep [09:33] look for an xchat perl plugin called 'xlack' [09:33] should be hosted on someone's blog [09:34] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [09:39] rk2 (~rk@host86-146-160-227.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:39] slysyr (mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:45] Immundus (~obi@e179139101.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:47] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:48] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:49] we need an irssi script to let us know when Scuzz is around [09:50] M1ck_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [09:51] lol [09:51] your stilln ot that funny mag0o [09:51] maybe after you had some coffee [09:51] Action: mag0o drinks more [09:52] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.34) joined ##slackware. [09:53] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-208-120.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:54] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [09:54] kostas (~kostas@cust-253-231.on4.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:54] hello guys! i ve got a problem with my display [09:55] the highest resolution that I have to use is 800 x 600 [09:55] where are the other resolutions? [09:56] is there any way to enable and the other reso? [09:56] system settings=>Display [09:56] there should be unless your driver is hosed or using the wrong driver [09:56] what kind of system [09:56] what version of slackware are you using? [09:56] 13 [09:57] i ve closed my computer and after i open it again the resolution was 800x600 [09:57] try running krandr and see what it can show [09:57] ok [09:57] cant run randr [09:57] I had to edit xorg.conf and increase the horz and vert numbers [09:57] krandr [09:58] xrandr [09:58] dangerseeker (~dangersee@p57A8F8F0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:58] i run xrandr and shows that the maximum res is 800x600 [09:59] you could try to add more like xrandr --addmode S-video 1024x768 maybe [09:59] limac (~chatzilla@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] limac (~chatzilla@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:00] cannot find output "S-video" [10:00] I am so confused [10:01] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:01] xrandr -q [10:01] Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600 [10:01] default connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm [10:01] 800x600 60.0* 56.0 [10:01] Channel flood from kostas -- kicking [10:01] 640x480 60.0 [10:01] 400x300 60.0 56.0 [10:01] kostas kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:01] hello kostas. what gfx card and drivers are you using? [10:02] kostas (~kostas@cust-253-231.on4.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:02] hey back again [10:03] hello kostas. what gfx card and drivers are you using? [10:03] kostos if you are using the vesa driver 800x600 is the max [10:03] i have geforce fx5600xt [10:03] maybe vesa driver [10:03] if you're running 13.0, then try not using an xorg (cd /etc/X11 ; mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.olg) and restart [10:04] How I can do the changes? [10:04] kostas, get and install the NVidia driver [10:04] sbopkg? [10:05] yes, any particular reason why you are not using the nvidia binary driver? [10:05] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [10:05] Guys Im a new user of slackware...I m trying to do my thang but i can [10:05] but i can't sometimes [10:05] k [10:06] d/l the driver from nvidia.com [10:06] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.22.html [10:06] download that [10:06] ok thanks man! [10:06] read the instructions [10:07] (additional information tab) [10:09] nannes (nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [10:09] dragonfist (~dragonfis@202.93.37.88) joined ##slackware. [10:10] ok thanks again!! 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[10:56] alkos333 (~alkos333@adsl-75-57-117-145.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:57] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] john_dee (~id@95-29-145-104.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:02] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:03] subvhome (~substance@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] micsch (~micsch@p54A5571A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Hey peeps.. me again.. I just changed my runtime on one machine to runtime 4... now when it boots up it is stuck at "Starting sysklogd daemons: /usr/sbin/syslogd _" [11:04] machine responds to ctrl alt del.. and reboots .. thats about it [11:04] do you by any chance mean the runLEVEL ? [11:04] woops.. runlevel rather.. yes. [11:05] can you switch to another console ? [11:05] nope [11:05] start it up in single-user mode [11:06] TAB at lilo, then add "single" to the kernel line [11:06] thanks.. [11:06] subvhome (~substance@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:06] he never read that [11:06] adaptr: maybe [11:06] subvhome (~substance@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] woops.. wrong keyboard [11:07] typing single doesn't do anything in lilo.. [11:08] no such image [tab] shows a list. [11:08] I did not say that [11:08] linux single? [11:08] sorry i hit ctrl alt del on the wrong keyboard and dropped out my gui.. lost my buffer [11:08] so work with me [11:08] get to the lilo command prompt and add "single" to the end of the kernel line [11:09] subvhome: not on command, no. do it right the first time, then. [11:09] ok so my kernel is Linux... so do Linux single [11:09] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:09] does anyone in here know how to join a keyworded channel with xchat?! [11:09] sh0ne (~sh0ne@109.93.13.66) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:09] ok its going in.. adaptr [11:10] so im back in. btw i should have known about this linux single thing... just forgot. [11:11] epoch: keyworded ... meaning password? [11:12] yes [11:12] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:12] i can google it for you hold on [11:12] /join #channel keyword #not working [11:13] i use irssi... [11:13] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.232.44) joined ##slackware. [11:14] hold on.. adaptr ... so you got me into single user mode... i changed my runtime back to 3... where you going to show me why i was getting stuck at syslogd [11:14] ? [11:14] I don't see why [11:14] you have access now - go check logs [11:15] thats soo weird .. now im getting stuck at that line even in runlevel 3... im going to reinstall the package [11:15] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:15] strange [11:15] i remember having this problem before on another machine [11:15] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] with ksyslogd ? [11:16] subvhome: what happens when you just let it sit for ~5 min [11:16] adaptr: yea.. i thought the problem was because of hardware issues in the laptop i was working with before [11:17] ardya: it stays there [11:17] it's conceivable, I guess, that udev isn't done creating /dev/log yet [11:17] but I think that's a static [11:17] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.27.188) joined ##slackware. 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[11:38] epoch #xchat worked here [11:38] s0d0, didnt work here. [11:38] hence why i asked here... [11:39] also, im not much for dragging dead horses [11:39] I`m using xchat [11:39] wonderful /afk/ [11:39] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] technopolic (technopol@95.43.27.188) left ##slackware. [11:45] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-220-52.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:47] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:49] johnp (~john@74-47-138-212.dr02.mdtw.ny.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] someone alive? [11:52] we're resting [11:52] look at this beautiful plumage [11:53] mica (~chatzilla@124.43.58.180) joined ##slackware. [11:53] :) [11:53] will see who is online :) [11:53] ubuntu rox, slack sux !!! [11:54] please take that to #offtopic [11:54] *ROFL* [11:54] oh boi [11:54] just what we needed [11:55] i was thinking that most of here are in eu [11:56] what the hell [11:56] ubuntu is just african for "slackware is too hard" [11:57] e01, go administer your weird distribution! [11:57] yeeaaa 10 points for epoch for his right answer [11:57] just know, there are a few lamers using it, makes you feel great eh [11:57] every damn noob in the world uses it [11:57] Action: epoch uses his 10 points on door #3 [11:58] jeev, just i was kidding [12:02] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [12:04] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) joined ##slackware. [12:05] i tried another distro before and it was so full of nerdy boot scripts that I could not understand... it made be go back to slackware, which is a very minimal and simple boot up [12:05] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [12:05] congrats foobarz [12:06] what distro? [12:06] it was Mandrake [12:06] Yeah I'm curious too [12:06] long time ago now [12:06] ahhh the drake [12:06] :) [12:07] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [12:07] :) [12:08] last night i was going into madness and delete my slack-current [12:08] do other distros make it feel like some nerd is in control of your computer? I don't feel what way running slackware [12:09] when I run slackware, it feels like a complete idiot is in control [12:09] it also feels like *I* am *completely* in control xP [12:09] :D [12:09] foobarz: actually, ubuntu makes me feel some unnamed corporate entity with a lack of technical knowledge is in charge [12:10] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.27.188) joined ##slackware. [12:11] i don't need half the startup scripts, so they are easily chmod -x ... very simple [12:12] i thought i smelled dirty diapers, e01 go have your mamma check your diaper [12:12] +1 [12:12] huh sure [12:12] if i have mamma [12:13] !!! [12:13] put one up on craigslist [12:13] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-220-52.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:14] ubunti iso makes me feel like if i install that, i'm just like sarah palin -- a retard. [12:14] hahaha [12:14] jeev that would depend how you look in a bikini [12:15] and i will look like this if i install it http://www.poneyclubinternational.com/Myspace/chien.jpg [12:15] Immundus, considering im a guy, not too good.. not too good [12:15] I don't know that she's smart enough to burn the iso [12:15] http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/allisonstokke.jpg <- wow. [12:19] she can't but you can download and install ubuntu like an app now [12:19] she can prolly use an ipod [12:20] she doesn`t need to install an ubuntu [12:21] may be she bough mac which have installed some os :) [12:22] more ubuntu lol's will make you to banned from here. [12:22] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC300C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:22] i don`t care [12:23] i am using slackware from 7 years [12:24] her laptop is actually an etch-a-sketch [12:25] she wont buy anything you can't get at walmart [12:26] who are you talking about? [12:26] so the mac is out ;) [12:26] some chick, you prolly never heard of [12:26] allison stoke? [12:26] well, no cause you've heard of her [12:27] the former ms governor of alaska [12:27] ah, sarah palin, ok [12:27] I hadn't seen her name mentionned [12:27] Nick change: weirfghliewugfh -> CtrlESC [12:27] jeev started it :P [12:27] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.68.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:27] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-87-191.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.70.139) joined ##slackware. [12:28] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:28] Nick change: CtrlESC -> _400theCat [12:29] Nick change: _400theCat -> ^400theCat [12:30] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:30] Nick change: ^400theCat -> _400theCat [12:30] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:31] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. 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[12:51] i have a problem with a gnome app in kde . it says when i open it this is not a cvs folder if you didnt intend to use cervisia you can switch view modes within konqueror [12:52] rv2733 (~ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:54] it all makes sense now thanks to this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=8asQkegV_wk [12:55] Goliath, be more specific, i didnt get it [12:55] hello happy slackers [12:55] guax: i got xiphos a gnome based bible study tool, and it throughs this error at me about cvs (but they dont use cvs they use svn) [12:55] it must be a kde problem [12:56] and you get this problem with konqueror? [12:57] yes [12:57] I am not quite understanding the relation yet between "xiphos" and konquerors error .... [12:57] and you get this problem when switch to cervisia? because cervisia just support cvs [12:58] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:58] it's obviously a mircale [12:58] *miracle [12:58] rv2733 (ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [12:59] guax: i dont switch to anything [12:59] i just open xiphos [12:59] in gnome it works fine [12:59] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:00] alot of people are worried about the internet running out of ips, but its run out of names alot sooner [13:00] it says switch view modes within konq [13:00] how to do that [13:00] and switch to what [13:01] its devil work [13:02] Goliath, i just dont see connection between this application and cvs or subversion, you are running it or trying to compile or download, or something [13:02] explain the problem we are not xiphos specialists [13:03] sounds like a KDE problem, more than slack per se [13:03] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:03] yeah, i am missing the connection between your app and konqueror [13:04] it sounds like the file is associated with the wrong app [13:04] but i don't even use that stuff cause everything starts with k and i get tired of it real fast [13:04] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:05] haha [13:05] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:05] i cant even use the software with this error [13:05] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-62-5.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:06] what if i uninstall cevisia [13:06] try it and see [13:06] you can always put it back [13:06] Goliath: have you tried opening it from cli [13:06] wait, explain the connection between this application and the konqueror [13:06] yes the same from cli [13:06] :/ [13:06] Can you show us any konsole output? [13:07] on a *pastebin* [13:07] Action: Skywise starts feeling dizzy [13:07] how can i get the output [13:07] xiphos -dd ? [13:07] learn it the old way =P its being made for 1.5k years without a problem [13:07] Goliath, just try to run it, and paste it on pastebin.com [13:07] run it via cli and paste the result, use screenshots if needed [13:08] i get no output that way [13:08] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:08] just by typing xiphos [13:08] i get nothing [13:08] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-7-159.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [13:08] hi [13:08] "he works in mysteriosu ways" and all that [13:09] i use slackware 13.0 and every second time it hit ctrl+alt+backspace, x quits [13:09] Action: adaptr moves in pointless yet unpredictable ways [13:09] in salckware 12.2 there was a loop that a user can't fallout from X, can u help me to realize this? [13:09] The_ManU_212: And? [13:09] thta't normal manu [13:10] ctrl+alt+backspace = kill X [13:10] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:10] The_ManU_212: you mean setting your runlevel to 4? [13:10] rk2: not everyone on this amchine has adminrights to start kdm ... [13:10] rk2: unless disabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf IIRC. [13:10] uh? [13:10] The_ManU_212: sounds like a runlevel issue. if it is set to 4, it will restart X for you when you close it with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace [13:10] The_ManU_212, its a X key binding you should disable it on /etc/X11/xorg.conf [13:10] The_ManU_212: if that is what you are missing [13:10] zaltekk: no, my default runlevel is 4 when i hit then as user udner x ctrl+alt+backspace X restarts, but the second time X doenst restart i want a loop like in slackware 12.2 [13:11] ah, okay. i'm not sure why it wouldn't restart again. [13:11] did you check the xorg log? [13:11] guax: what should i disable exactly and why has this changed since slackware 12.2? [13:11] The_ManU_212: he is telling you to disable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace hotkey. [13:11] The_ManU_212, the whole X.org now is different in slackware [13:12] you dont even have anymore a xorg.conf [13:12] that's incorrect. xorg.conf works fine [13:12] right. it uses generates one when it runs [13:12] guax: i have one, configured for my dualhead setup [13:12] but you can create one and use it instead [13:12] maybe this tell us something http://forums.opensuse.org/applications/400430-konqueror-default-file-browser-problem-cvs.html [13:12] rk2, s/have/need/g [13:12] zaltekk: how to disable and is it then possible to restart X? [13:13] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] if you disable you cant restart x [13:13] well, with a dual monitor setup, the automatic detection was patchy at best, had to manually recreate my xorg.conf .. [13:13] not with ctr+alt+backspace [13:13] The_ManU_212: it sounds like you want the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace hotkey to work. but you want to make sure that kdm is restarted when you use it. correct? [13:13] guax: i want to restart xorg endless [13:13] why? [13:13] rk2: granted, but the one written upon running nvidia-settings works fine [13:14] different people, different strokes, did not work for me :) [13:14] The_ManU_212, perhaps its an internal x issue, you should look the log on why it not started again the second time [13:14] zaltekk: exactly and every second time the hotkey is hit kdm or lets say x with kdm wont restart and thats bad, sicne not everyone can use the tty or has adminrights to switch again to runlevel 4 [13:14] i've always needed an xorg.conf for my synaptics touchpad [13:14] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Goliath: how did you install xiphos [13:14] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) joined ##slackware. [13:14] because x apparently can't tell if it is a touchpad or just a ps2 mouse [13:14] guax: what he means is this; he wants X to come up properly every time he presses ctrl-alt-backspace .. not flake out after the second time. Which seems to me some other issue that the ctrl-alt-backspace and The_ManU_212 probably needs to look at his /var/adm/xorg.0.log for more information [13:14] so it doesn't have any of the extra features without the xorg.conf [13:15] The_ManU_212: like both BP{k} and I have said, you should check the xorg log to see why it isn't starting [13:15] I removed cervisia and now i get another crazy error.When i open xiphos, it opens some dolphin windows, the program still doesnt work correctly [13:15] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:15] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.250) left irc: Quit: Going to sleep [13:16] zaltekk: BP{k} i have allready looked into the log there is no error only that i hat this command [13:16] does Xiphos have a FAQ Goliath? does not sound like a slack problem either way [13:16] The_ManU_212: maybe in /var/log/messages? [13:17] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [13:17] i'm not sure, but I am assuming that init would start kdm if you runlevel is 4 [13:17] Nick change: jeev -> lunaphyte [13:17] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [13:17] Nick change: lunaphyte -> jeev [13:18] rk2: he said there aren't errors in the xorg log [13:19] just pointing out the exact path [13:20] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=70173 [13:20] google search [13:20] rworkman, you about? [13:20] give me cookies [13:21] zaltekk: rk2 there is nothing in var/log/messages... or Xorg.0.log [13:21] check the link I pasted above [13:21] details your exact problem with solution [13:21] rk2: he doesn't want to do that [13:22] its not the problem his having [13:22] rk2: his zap key works, but X only restarts the first time he uses it [13:22] if you need to restart your X twice you have something much more serious then restarting issues [13:22] voi, my bad, sorry then [13:22] rk2: since there aren't any errors in his xorg log, i thought that maybe the issues is that X isn't started [13:23] The_ManU_212: i do see that this is a problem, but as guax said, there is probably a bigger issue if you are having to restart X so often. [13:23] zaltekk: ur right, but i have this problem on a fresh installation too [13:23] The_ManU_212: why _do_ you have to restart X multiple times? [13:24] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:24] zaltekk: i dont need to restart X often, but sometimes i dont wnat to log out or want to test something and then this hotkey is hit quickly... it worked under slackware 12.2 and HAS to work also under 13.0 [13:24] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-61-140.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:26] let me test it [13:26] supposedly "Actually, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is support to _kill_ X. The fact that it's restarting is due to GDM (or XDM). When you start X.org with 'startx', it will not restart." [13:26] TClayton (~tony@nc-76-3-97-23.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Changing host [13:26] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) joined ##slackware. [13:27] right, rk2. but his runlevel is 4. so shouldn't init start X back? [13:27] he said that it does the first time he kills X, but not the second. [13:27] rk2: i have in inittab the default runlevel set to 4 [13:28] i just reproduced the problem in my vmware image of slackware 13.0 64-bit [13:28] ok, sorry, not much use [13:28] zaltekk: http://pastebin.com/d44524ce9 xorg.conf [13:28] the second time that i kill X i get left at the terminal without a prompt [13:28] zaltekk: yep exactly!!! [13:28] maybe you're just on the wrong console [13:28] no [13:29] i mean, i can type into tty6 [13:29] what happens if you press alt-f7 [13:29] the one that works while X is running [13:29] ok [13:29] the others are unresponsive [13:29] Skywise: blank screen with cursor in the top left [13:29] zaltekk: like me [13:29] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:29] and same with al-f6? [13:30] alt+f6 works as expected [13:30] well, i think you've discovered a bug [13:30] Switching to runlevel: 4 [13:30] its in some indeterminate state [13:30] and doesn't complete the switch [13:30] client connected, clietn connected, then /var/log/messages ends [13:30] Skywise: lol do u think we are one of the 1st who found that bug? [13:30] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [13:30] no, prolly just the first to complain [13:31] no errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/messages [13:31] guax (~guax@201-34-174-131.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:31] guax (~guax@201-34-174-131.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Changing host [13:31] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:31] not sure if there is anywhere else relevant to look [13:31] Skywise: yeah dont u think that it is bad for suers who only wnat to use graphical programs, they fall into the tty void from x and cant get back [13:31] can you ssh in to the box and see whats running? [13:31] v4nelle (~van@79.103.135.146.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:32] i tested it, its a kdm problem not xorgs, since ctr+alt+backspace means terminate, not restart [13:32] Skywise: i am running it in a vm and can still access a terminal [13:32] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:32] Is there any information in /var/log/kdm.log ? [13:32] read "problem" as you wish [13:32] maybe the old shell never terminated [13:32] BP{k}, some xkbcomp problems, some warnings about the terminatins, not that im that interested [13:32] about the terminations* [13:33] BP{k}: both kills of X look identical in kdm.log too [13:33] are there any zombies? [13:33] kdm is still running [13:33] i'm thinking theres an unclean shutdown [13:34] Action: BP{k} boots up thge laptop. [13:34] and it hasn't even gotten to init yet [13:34] oh, theres a backtrace [13:34] NaCl, ping [13:34] where? [13:34] eviljames, ping [13:34] on kdm log [13:34] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.27.188) joined ##slackware. [13:35] i don't have that [13:35] righteous: what you want? [13:35] /var/log/kdm.log [13:35] as i said, the first and second kill of X look identical in kdm.log other than the timestamps [13:35] NaCl, hey man lol [13:36] Skywise: that sounds unlikely; considering that it is init that calls rc.4. Since he kills it from a running Xsession... seems to me the problem is more X related or KDE/kdm related. [13:36] NaCl, i tried that combination and still got the same error :/ [13:36] err s/error/lock [13:36] BP{k}, thats what i'm saying, X or the DE hasn't exited yet [13:36] NaCl, so there is something different about your system than mine, and i think it's a change in the -current tree that we didn't account for [13:37] Quite possibly. [13:37] As for what it is, I really don't know. [13:37] can you give me the date you last updated -current? [13:37] I'm running the most recent -current [13:37] as soon as i kill KDM, X pops back up [13:37] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [13:37] so yes, KDM fails to exit the second time it is killed [13:38] NaCl, permission to pm [13:38] shonudo_ (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:38] righteous: shoot [13:38] The_ManU_212: have you tried Alt+SysRq+K? [13:38] that works properly for me [13:39] Okay; just testing this on -current .. run level for .. log into XFCE with KDM .. pressing ctrl-act-backspace for the third time .. KDM comes up normally as expected. Killing KDM with ctrol-alt-backspace seems to indeed maul kdm as it is now stuck. :) [13:39] zaltekk: no, what is SysRq for a key? [13:39] now that i have X running again, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is causing X to just hang and not exit [13:39] The_ManU_212: well, I am on a laptop, and SysReq is in a non-standard position. i press Fn+Del [13:39] try Print Screen [13:40] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:40] Alt+Print Screen+K [13:40] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:40] zaltekk: and that works everytime? [13:41] yes [13:41] zaltekk: i will also try on my laptop since on my desktop im in irc [13:42] zaltekk: the combination doesnt work [13:42] so can you map the backspace keystroke to Alt+SysRq+K [13:42] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.34) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [13:42] its a chord [13:42] hold 'em all down [13:42] with alt-sysrq first [13:43] Skywise: and which key is sysrq on my laptop del and print doesnt work [13:43] The_ManU_212: do you not have a key that says SysRq? [13:43] try adding shift [13:43] check the Fn combo keys [13:43] I actually press Alt+Fn+Del+K [13:44] because Fn+Del is converted to SysRq [13:44] hmmm interesting. Seems it's largely KDM being an arse: just killing the KDM process will restart KDM properly. So something is causing KDM to hang/not completely shutdown. [13:44] well, unfortunately i think lenovo is dropping sysrq from its keyboards [13:44] BP{k}: note that after doing that, the system hangs and doesn't actually exit X when you press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace again [13:44] does top give a clue to maybe whats still running? [13:44] zaltekk: no i have no key that says sysrq [13:45] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.214) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Skywise: no, not realy. just the normal process one would expect at telinit 3, and KDM. [13:45] The_ManU_212: on my old desktop keyboad, SysRq is the same key as Print Screen, but I don't know if that key actually works with this combo [13:45] do you have a pause/break key? [13:45] Zaltekk: let me have a look .. one second :) [13:46] zaltekk: logged into xfce as normal through KDM, pressing ctrl-alt-backspace just restarted X cleanly and fI am back at KDM [but this is a 64-currrent system]. [13:46] BP{k}: let me test it again [13:46] i never logged in btw, i did it from the login prompt [13:46] anyone know of any program that can split a single music file (.flac) with a .cue file into several flac files (or ogg or whatever)? (I'm going to ask a few other times before I write one myself) [13:47] yeah, but i can't remember its name [13:47] okay. this time i didn't get dropped to an empty terminal on the second X kill [13:47] its gonna take me a minute to find it [13:47] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) joined ##slackware. [13:47] all i see if the background [13:47] *is [13:48] wertik_rus (~mirggi@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.70.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:48] Skywise: i i got this key [13:48] and i can't change to a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F6 [13:48] which is strange, because i rebooted [13:48] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:48] briareus (~briareus@52.sub-75-244-170.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [13:48] briareus (~briareus@52.sub-75-244-170.myvzw.com) left irc: Changing host [13:48] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [13:48] zaltekk: this is on slackware-13.0? or -current? [13:48] slackware64-13.0 [13:48] will all patches applied [13:49] wertik_rus (~mirggi@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [13:49] Skywise: alt+pause/break+k doesnt work [13:49] I finally found mp3cue on https://bl0rg.net/software/poc/ but it seems a bit limited [13:51] Camarade_Tux: what's that ? [13:51] The_ManU_212, no, i asked about that key because sysrq should be next to it [13:51] The_ManU_212: try "echo k > /proc/sysrq-trigger" as root [13:51] Camarade_Tux, take a look at pacpl [13:52] warning, copious dependencys required [13:52] but it works great for converting [13:52] The_ManU_212: also, check that /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq is 1 [13:53] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] snL20: for when you have a single file for a whole audio CD and track boundaries are given in a separate file (a .cue file) [13:53] greetings and salutations [13:53] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:53] Camarade_Tux: aah, sounds sucky =) [13:54] yeah, i hate people posting albums like that [13:54] snL20: it's a simple way to have gapless playback [13:54] but it's not the good way [13:54] you can just tell your player to playback gapless [13:54] Skywise: are you sure it does .cue? can't see that on the website (trying nonetheless) [13:55] Skywise: not all players can do that [13:55] well, i'm pretty sure about it [13:55] i have to head out to a superbowl party. good luck, The_ManU_212. [13:55] but i'm just foggy about it [13:55] wow, its still another 4 hrs away [13:55] Skywise: got the key [13:55] you're gonna need a nap during the game [13:56] The_ManU_212, does it work? [13:56] Skywise: i'll try the combination, can u tell me how to map it to atrg+alt+backspace when i'm back? [13:56] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:56] rek (~rek@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [13:56] i think you do it in xorg.conf [13:56] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.67.111) joined ##slackware. [13:56] hii i'm running nimblex how can i use gslapt [13:57] but i don't remember what section its in or the syntax [13:57] it's not updating the packages [13:57] just that you can do it [13:57] my gf is doing her nails, and i don't think we have enough ventilation [13:57] Skywise: how cold is it ouside? [13:58] outside* [13:58] rek: consult some one from gslapt, nimblex or their docs. that is not supported here [13:58] you're a lucky tux skywise [13:58] 29'F [13:58] nvision (~nvision@g225048224.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:58] i might go outside [13:58] what is nimblex? [13:58] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-7-159.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:58] andarius i got erroe 15 grub slackware this time [13:58] bp is a distro [13:58] BP{k}: live distrib, based on slax or linux-live (can't remember exactly) [13:59] oh sorry ... [13:59] I thought I was in ##slackware ... [13:59] Skywise: oh, just open every window =) [13:59] BP{k}: ^^ [13:59] not ##slackware-derrative ofthemonth. :) [13:59] derrativE? [13:59] i get error 15 grub what can i do? [14:00] derivative* [14:00] rek: And what is error 15 with grub? [14:00] Skywise: I grepped the source with 'grep -r -i cue *': no result, won't be supported =/ [14:00] an error [14:01] hmm [14:01] lemme see what i can find [14:01] rek: oh goody, I am so glad you have done proper research regarding this. That really helped us a lot. [14:01] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:01] lol [14:01] Action: BP{k} turns his sarcasm back down from 11. [14:01] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/grub-error-15-how-to-fix-547773/ [14:01] classic [14:01] rek: ^^^^^^ [14:02] Goliath (~goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:03] Camarade_Tux, it supports the flac format and i think you'd use its cd ripping functions for it [14:03] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:04] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-70-133.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.67.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:04] 11! [14:04] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:04] but I want to split existing flac files, not re-encode ;-) [14:05] Camarade_Tux: did you try if audacity does what you want? [14:05] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.75.0) joined ##slackware. [14:05] I would think you'd have to reencode in order to have the correct file headers in place at the beginning of each file, but I dont know for sure [14:06] Camarade_Tux, you supply the cue file as a parameter to the flac plugin [14:06] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.75.0) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:06] Camarade_Tux, that app is the swiss army knife of encoding, it can do everything as long as you can figure it out [14:06] what? [14:06] i'm stuck [14:07] must change somothing [14:07] Camarade_Tux, cuetols and shnsplit? [14:07] cuetools [14:07] i'll ask edman too [14:08] Camarade_Tux, check the flac manpage for using cuefiles [14:09] alienBOB: darn, I always forget about audacity, I'm installing it now but reading the doc, it doesn't seem to support cue files (and I'm more looking for a command-line tool) [14:09] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Immundus: yeah, I saw cuetools' cueprint and if I were to write a utility, I'd use it [14:10] dunno shnsplit though [14:10] technopolic (technopol@95.43.27.188) left ##slackware. [14:10] Skywise: :o I never expected /usr/bin/flac to support cue sheets directly =) [14:11] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:11] I was looking at copying some LP's to HD and then making CD's. Can anyone suggest a good application for cleaning up the audio of any hiss, pops etc before buring? [14:12] Axius (~fd@109.97.32.242) joined ##slackware. [14:12] i did it but [14:12] Camarade_Tux, yeah its a really flexible system [14:12] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:13] and if that also finally gives me tags back in mplayer, that'd be wonderful ;-) [14:14] yeah it will [14:14] dchmelik (~d@71.93.27.3) joined ##slackware. [14:15] looks like somebody was trying to do something similar [14:15] Action: Camarade_Tux dances naked on the table \o/ [14:15] NyteOwl: renoize is something I've read thats good for that [14:15] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=75774 [14:15] ardya: thanks, I'll have a look at it [14:15] Action: Camarade_Tux notices he's actually in the living room with his mother and his brother in front of him... [14:15] i think it can even update tags from cddb [14:15] and neither are suprised by it anymore [14:15] of course I'd use Windows for any serious audio processing [14:16] audacity can clean up audio recordings [14:17] rek (~rek@76.73.16.26) left irc: Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout) [14:17] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:17] i want one of those trent-reznor 1337 audio workstations [14:18] with like, 3 panels, and the OS is more like firmware than windows or linux [14:18] oh my gosh my head feels like it's going to splode all over the channel [14:19] Action: Camarade_Tux readies his spoon =) [14:20] Biopsy Result: Memorized the Xorg manpages. [14:21] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.75.229) joined ##slackware. [14:22] "man gcc" works quite well too, especially with gcc-4.4: the manpage has gotten much bigger between 4.3 and 4.4 [14:22] looks like my telco has put up their DSl rates again. $62/month on no contract, $52 on 12 month [14:22] NyteOwl, at least you don't have fairpoint. [14:23] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:23] 20MB/2MB for 30 euros per month, contract (I still find these rates are pretty low) [14:23] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:23] that about $35 US? [14:24] NyteOwl, no thats like 70USD [14:24] 45 I think but that's because USD fell [14:24] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] thosestill decent for 20 down 2 up., the prices I quoted were 7 down 1 up [14:25] 40 actually [14:25] 39, curent exchange rate is 1.363 euro to 1 dollar [14:25] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:25] NyteOwl: had my building been properly equipped, I would have went for 100MB/20MB for 15 EUR (20 USD) ;-) [14:25] nice [14:25] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:26] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:26] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] That's about what daialup costs here after tases [14:26] s/tases/taxes [14:27] suprleg (~suprleg@cpe-66-74-224-28.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:27] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:28] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:29] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:32] suprleg (suprleg@cpe-66-74-224-28.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [14:33] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:35] afteeeer two days insidde one linux box with slackwware i cannot encounteer nothing undder net nothhing on google or othheer search enginne for libs needded for made conectiiion withh hdma aand othhe tecnologies used im Brazil for conectiions typed 3g tecnologies i put debian in the box to try using that i encounter these some libs... [14:36] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [14:36] What's wrong with your keyboard? [14:36] SOUL_OF_R00T: you're in a dire need of some punctuation [14:38] SOUL_OF_R00T: time for half-caff dude [14:38] excuse me, please [14:38] 15/1 cable is $58 heh. cheaper than the telco but shared [14:38] i lrarning in pratice of english... [14:39] SOUL_OF_R00T: no worries, I am sure your Portuguese is > to their English. Just explain in more details what you want to do and what the problem is [14:40] uh, that did not come out right. Your English > Their Portuguese [14:40] lol [14:41] omgwtfbbq [14:41] rotfchopter@2.4ghz [14:41] the wvdial uses libwstrrrreams and thhiis uses libuniconf and enia-0 but the sources of some then i cannot encounteeer [14:42] dude seriously, what's up with your keyboard? [14:42] its sticky [14:42] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.75.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:42] my keyboard is with some problems too [14:42] do you have local echo enabled or something? [14:43] SOUL_OF_R00T: sorry, you are making it difficult to understand exactly what your problem is, i assume its regarding the driver modules needed to recognise your network card? [14:44] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.47.42) joined ##slackware. [14:46] how do i close a connection that appears in netstat? myip:port -> foreignip:port [14:46] the problems are not with a network card but one simple ppp connectiiion withh 3g tecnology [14:46] Azeotrope: use the -p flag and kill that pid [14:47] phrag: thanks! [14:47] broken libs undeer slackware 13 for X86__64 [14:47] rek (~rek@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [14:47] all dependencies for wdial are incomplete [14:47] and i noy encounteeeer packages or sources over the net [14:47] SOUL_OF_R00T: which libs are 'broken'? [14:48] hi i must create menu.lst i have installed lilo [14:48] i try compile them [14:48] what can i do_ [14:48] but some of them i cannot encounter the sources packages [14:49] rek: lilo doesn't use menu.lst. it uses /etc/lilo.conf [14:49] CLOSE_WAIT 30415/ruby [14:49] libwmsttreeeaams libuniconf and some ddeps oveeer this libs [14:49] SOUL_OF_R00T: try the source/ of the slackware tree [14:50] ok [14:50] phrag: i can't close it [14:50] shadowx (~7350@93.183.131.3) left irc: Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! [14:51] Azeotrope: let it time out? [14:51] Azeotrope: kill -9 pid ? [14:51] rek, [14:51] i trry iy with the 32bis laptop the actuuaal box i'm using i instaled a lenny for somee tests wwithhh thhem [14:51] rek, you got stuff working? [14:52] Azeotrope: it's awaiting confirmation of a connection close.. ergo it's not actually open, rather a tcp connection that was open, but has closed [14:52] iirc [14:52] shadowx (~7350@core.astika.bg) joined ##slackware. [14:52] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] phrag: ok. done it, thanks [14:53] welcome [14:54] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:54] phrag, close, but not exactly, its a trap to catch dup packets and prevent erroneous replies to dup packets after a tcp close, it also prevents other apps from using that connection when there is a high chance of dup packets that may hit it [14:55] god im so leet, in 5 minutes, rrdtool ddump to temp files for 350 and then restore on another (diff architecture) before cron could run< UNF [14:57] what could this mean in my apache log? 212.1.229.43 - - [07/Feb/2010:16:28:44 +0200] "GET /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.test0:) HTTP/1.1" 400 506 "-" "-" [14:57] the IP address is a moscow one [14:57] are they declaring war? [14:57] the KGB is watching you? [14:57] Azeotrope, checking for exploitable holes in your server [14:57] dunno [14:58] Azeotrope, whatever you do.. make sure you have root login disabled through ssh and set a damn hard password! [14:58] my test production server was owned like that cause i was too lazy to change pass from test ;D [14:58] jeev: done that [14:58] that server is used for pentesting. private pentesting. i don't disclose it's address [14:58] Azeotrope, http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=900 [14:59] jeev, hahaha [14:59] Azeotrope, we already hve it! [14:59] edman007, that's not the worst part. i didn't bother to format it and i'm running it in production now, muauhauhauha [14:59] i had a friend with a short name, and set his password to his name, an ssh scanner got me and put a bot on my comp [15:00] lol [15:00] right. you really think that just because you don't _publish_ the ip address, it will somehow be omitted by random drive by bots? [15:00] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:00] luckily it was just user account in my case, so it couldn't do much other than waste CPU/bandwidth [15:00] i'm not keeping it up 24/24. i open it only when i need it. but is strange how they got my ip [15:01] Azeotrope, for ssh, just moving ssh off port 22 will get rid of all the bots [15:01] Azeotrope, it's constant sweeps [15:01] it's not just you [15:01] Azeotrope: bot scans happen. script kiddies run scripts. ignore it [15:01] Azeotrope: just random port scan discovery, probably hunting your whole host. [15:01] just tell adaptr what the ip was so he can remove it from his list! [15:01] They didn't "get your ip". They ran a scan [15:01] It's not like IP ranges are secret [15:01] oh, i don't have ssh on standard port. but nessus is able to find what service is running, tested myself [15:02] Azeotrope: thats cause portscanners these days can identify based on responce [15:02] i wouldn't have any ports open to the public [15:02] antiwire, and now something like 90%+ of IPs are used, so if you just randomly pick a 32-bit number there is most likely a computer at that address [15:02] if it's on the internet, it will be found [15:02] nmap can tell you which bot the system is infected with now. [15:03] nmap script based scans are being developed quickly now. you should check it out. [15:04] if its for yourself to login, only open that port to ips or netmasks you actually access from [15:04] ananke, did you see the thing RIP did about the 1.1.1.1 and 1.2.3.4 IPs? both of which were in the block they just opened up, apperently immeditly after assigning them they maxed out their switch [15:04] so i can scan too.. seems nothing happens :)) [15:04] well now all those misconfigured packets have some place to go [15:04] edman007: that was epic ;-) [15:04] edman007: 1.x.x.x and 27.x.x.x are being tested right now aren't they? Or did they actually deploy and assign now? [15:04] edman007: nope, i missed it [15:05] I thought they were still in compatibility testing [15:05] http://labs.ripe.net/content/pollution-18 [15:05] (at first I didn't get what the deal was) [15:05] ananke, i thought they already started giving out the 1.x.x.x block, RIP is going through it and picking a few small blocks to skip [15:06] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-181-1.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:06] antiwire, anyways, there is some software that decided that the 1.x.x.x is the only block that would never get assigned and never used for a lan, so they used it for their proxy software...well now the proxy software points to real IPs and all their traffic goes to the net [15:06] i got 1.0.0.0/24 [15:06] lol [15:07] Artio (~a@port-11409.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [15:08] In English? People with the newly assigned address block are getting involuntarily ddossed? [15:08] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:08] as soon as they opened it, they got maxed out with hundreds of Mbps, mostly UDP packets [15:08] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:08] vehn_z (~vehn_z@62.133.183.54) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:08] rk2: traffic that shouldn't be routable is making out to the internet [15:09] rofl [15:09] who cares about standards [15:10] xenodrox (~xenodrox@156.110.35.114) joined ##slackware. [15:10] rk2, some IPs can't be used on the internet, such as 10.0.0.0 and 192.168.0.0, they are reserved for LANs and such, someone assumed 1.0.0.0 was the same, but it was just "reserved for future use", well we are running out of IPs so its no longer reserved [15:10] hello! i'm having a problem with my wacom tablet on slackware - should i ask here or is there a more appropriate channel? [15:10] yea, why wouldn't a class c be enough for any lan [15:10] i scanned that ip and got a ftp server. i got into it and there is a .jpg... KGB is watching you lol [15:10] lol [15:11] Azeotrope, lol [15:11] edman007, right, understood that part, was not entirely sure about the consequences [15:11] anake [15:11] xenodrox: which model? [15:11] but i got error 15 grub [15:11] Intuos small [15:12] and a radmin server. should i try it? [15:13] What as mess that 1/8 is. All because of assumption, there are whole blocks blacklisted [15:13] if you find credit card numbers, share them around Azeotrope , so we can all go to jail [15:13] what can i do [15:13] It's probably a honeypot [15:13] let him hit it [15:14] Action: adaptr proffers rhythm stick [15:15] And also, can you imagine the mayhem when everyone on /. read that 1/8 and 27 were being activated? [15:15] Dear God I bet 100k kittens died an ICMP death [15:15] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.66.190) joined ##slackware. [15:15] antiwire: as mentionned, it got impossible to ping ;-) [15:16] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-143-255.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Camarade_Tux: and the issue i'm having is that when the usb cable disconnects from my laptop, my system freezes. i also can't shut down X without the system freezing either. appears to be wacom's fault. i have to shutdown from a terminal inside X. [15:18] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:18] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:19] xenodrox: so your system doesn't actually completely freeze? what's frozen and what's still working? [15:20] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] why the hell do i get grub error 15 [15:22] Camarade_Tux: i have to shutdown from a terminal inside X when the system is running in order to shutdown X. When X is running normally with tablet plugged in, I cannot close down X without having the same system freeze. When my system freezes, everything freezes except the light indicating whether or not my charging cord is plugged in. Caps lock, num lock, scroll lock are all frozen, system accepts no input whatsoever. Have to hard shutdown using p [15:22] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:23] Camarade_Tux: so there are actually two separate symptoms: I cannot close X normally because it freezes my system, and disconnecting my wacom tablet freezes my system [15:23] xenodrox: try: Alt+PrintScreen+R, release everything (important) and use Ctrl+Alt+F2, anything happening? [15:23] lioil (~oli@r11no54.net.upc.cz) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:24] rek: how should we know? you haven't told us anything [15:24] kgb_ [15:24] ananke ask me [15:24] please [15:24] Doesn't work. Tried switching workspaces too. System accepts no key presses that I have seen. [15:25] Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, Ctrl+Alt+F1-8 [15:25] Any of my shortcuts for fvwm [15:27] xenodrox, is there anything in the x.org log? [15:27] i have lilo.conf here [15:27] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [15:28] tuvok302Lappy (~vircuser@S0106001c10c1d002.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] rk2: looking [15:29] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-54.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:29] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:30] hey what the hell can i do_ [15:30] Additionally, I am using 64-bit slackware [15:30] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Plasmastar (plasmastar@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:31] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:31] xenodrox: Alt+PrintScreen+R is a special key sequence that gives the keyboard back to the kernel [15:32] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [15:32] xenodrox: also, try: Alt+PrintScreen+B (and of course, Ctrl+Alt+Suppr) [15:32] How the hell [15:32] xenodrox: and is the system reachable from the network through ssh for instance? (or answers pings?) [15:32] Do you spell ac-wainted [15:32] Action: Gargantua is low on sleep and high on caff [15:33] i was looking for something cold to drink on this damn hot wheater and just found beer. cant decide if thats good or very good [15:33] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.47.42) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:34] Camarade_Tux, the famous Sys Rq :) [15:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.232.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:36] Camarade_Tux: I'll lock the system up and try the key sequences you gave in a moment [15:36] as for ssh/ping, i don't have anything to ping/ssh from [15:37] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:37] guax: yup \o/ [15:38] that's odd, it seems that Xorg is setting up my tablet again, even though I've already defined it [15:38] xorg.conf? [15:38] you know about the new way to set up devices? [15:39] Camarade_Tux: apparently not [15:41] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.66.190) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:41] Camarade_Tux: i set them up in xorg.conf as InputDevice(s) [15:42] have you tried without writing anything? [15:42] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:43] Camarade_Tux: without writing anything? i'm not exactly sure what you mean [15:43] Axius (~fd@109.97.32.242) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:44] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] guax: that depends on the brand anad how much is available :0 [15:45] xenodrox: without changing your xorg.conf [15:46] yeah - the tablet functions perfectly, but the symptoms still occur: freezing when the tablet disconnects, freezing on closing X [15:46] rk2 (~rk@host86-146-160-227.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:46] Plasmastar (plasmastar@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [15:47] NyteOwl, a fairly good brand and about 4 cans [15:47] no bad :0 [15:47] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434172.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:47] plus 6 of a very better brand but if i open that i think someone will get hurt =P [15:48] lol [15:48] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434172.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Camarade_Tux: looking at the Xorg.0.log, xinput takes care of the stuff I'm trying to take care by manually editing the xorg.conf [15:48] I have two bottle of McEwan's in. After that it would have to be scotch, irish or sherry :) [15:49] i have bottles of eisenbahn [15:50] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:50] xenodrox: in slackware13, you shouldn't have to edit your xorg.conf unless you're using something uncommon: proprietary driver or specific option [15:51] i've got a vodka mash fermenting in the attic [15:51] Action: Camarade_Tux is under the impression he can't talk/write properly anymore [15:51] nothing would fermetn in my attic at the moment - too cold [15:52] i live in the attic =P [15:52] Camarade_Tux: thanks, that's useful to know [15:52] rek (~rek@76.73.16.26) left irc: Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout) [15:53] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:54] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.149) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:56] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Camarade_Tux: I'm going to go ahead and try the special key sequences to see if they get me out of the lockup [15:56] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:56] xenodrox (~xenodrox@156.110.35.114) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:56] Artio (~a@port-11409.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish! [15:58] joe213211 (~none@88.243.193.138) joined ##slackware. [15:59] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.232.44) joined ##slackware. [16:04] vehn_z (~vehn_z@62.133.183.54) joined ##slackware. [16:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-54.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] awful silent here {today,tonight}.. you all watching super bowl? [16:14] I don't have tv. [16:15] Action: NyteOwl web-window shopping [16:15] My SuperBowl prediction: One team will win, and the world will go on as if nothing important happened at all. [16:15] kotrcka (~kotrcka@adsl-dyn-49.95-102-214.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [16:16] briareus: agreed :) [16:16] super-what? [16:16] can you put fruity pebbles in it? [16:16] in Norway, most people don't know what super bowl is [16:16] its one of those social excuses to get drunk in groups isn't it? [16:16] kotrcka (kotrcka@adsl-dyn-49.95-102-214.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [16:17] only sissies need an excuse to get drunk ;) [16:17] in the super bowl, most people dont know what norway is :) [16:17] Action: andarius also has no tv [16:17] also, football in norway == soccer [16:17] http://i.imgur.com/PfVPA.jpg [16:17] makes more sense :) [16:17] lol [16:17] lol [16:18] dchmelik (~d@71.93.27.3) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:18] Action: NyteOwl team didn't make it anyway :( [16:18] dchmelik (~d@71.93.27.3) joined ##slackware. [16:19] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [16:20] 14:21 < free-zombie> briareus: I predict the ads will win. [16:20] Hahaha [16:20] whoa! Just found a pile of tractor-feed computer printout binders in the bottom drawer of the filing cabinet - brand new! [16:21] MadneX (~MadneX@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [16:22] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:22] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:23] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:23] mica_ (~chatzilla@124.43.50.60) joined ##slackware. [16:24] rek (~rek@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [16:24] hmm a programming book for dBase IV too [16:24] hi [16:24] hello [16:24] i want to create menu.lst [16:25] can you give me some info so that i can create it correctly? [16:25] i had to install lilo on the mbr but i can't burn any dvd now [16:25] rek, liloconfig ! [16:26] mica (~chatzilla@124.43.58.180) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:26] what [16:26] i get grub error 15 at the beginning so i'm stuck [16:27] i hate to bu stuck [16:27] be* [16:27] oh installing grub? [16:27] is it already installed if i get that error? [16:28] what can i do [16:28] go ask in #debian they use grub [16:28] There's the #grub channel. [16:28] pretend being a debian user [16:29] lol [16:29] can i change something in lilo.conf to delete this problem? [16:29] nessundorma: ciao [16:30] if you cant burn any dvd thats not about lilo [16:30] cant be because there is no relation [16:30] what? [16:30] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.123.0) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:31] well, i say use lilo.. why not? [16:31] macavity (~macavity@212088073001.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:31] is lilo installed? [16:31] i told him to install it [16:31] how can i use it [16:32] vi /etc/lilo.conf && lilo [16:32] look [16:32] no [16:32] crazyhors (~gr@209.89.220.82) joined ##slackware. [16:32] there is a liloconfig tool [16:32] or liloconf [16:32] yeah [16:32] text file [16:32] rek: run liloconfig! [16:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.118.69) joined ##slackware. [16:34] i only have lilo.conf [16:34] ok, whats the problem again? [16:34] rek: you dont have liloconfig in /sbin ?? [16:35] joe213211: not if he switched to root with "su" and not "su -" ;-) [16:35] macavity: he claims his dvd burner doesnt work because of lilo :| [16:35] macavity: oh... [16:36] now, that i can attest to be wrong.. lilo will not fuck up his DVD burner for sure [16:36] heh [16:36] he wants to change to grub just because of that [16:38] joe213211 (~none@88.243.193.138) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:39] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:40] rek you still coming here for help with mythubuntu ? [16:40] Kaapa (~Something@bl7-79-200.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:40] Scuzz: thank you :-) [16:41] crazyhors (~gr@209.89.220.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:41] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [16:43] dErFz (znc@217.18.70.128) left irc: Quit: sleep [16:44] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-136-25.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:44] xenodrox (~xenodrox@156.110.35.114) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Camarade_Tux: i'm back with information [16:44] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:45] xenodrox: also, do you know if it also freezes the system when outside of X? and also, we could try to ping you through irc ;-) [16:45] and time to go to bed soon ;-) [16:46] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) left irc: Quit: velusip [16:46] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:47] alphad (~alphad@41.207.31.57) joined ##slackware. [16:47] alphad_ (~quassel@41.207.31.57) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Camarade_Tux: the system does not freeze outside of X. Meta+PrtScr+B reboots system but Meta+Prtscr+R has no apparent effect and Ctrl+Alt+Super has no effect. I removed the lines I had added to xorg.conf and my tablet still functions but the alteration had no effect on the freezing. [16:48] lol Meta+Prtscr+R but Ctrl+Alt+Super [16:49] I wrote Suppr? if so, I meant Del >< [16:49] and Meta+PrtScr+R *r*eleases the control of the keyboard from X and gives it back to the kernel [16:50] shonudo_ (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: shonudo_ [16:50] scuzz no [16:50] xenodrox: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [16:50] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:51] Camarade_Tux: I have tried Ctrl+Alt+Del as well. Thanks for link, I'm checking it out [16:51] non i haven't said that macavity and joe213211 [16:52] it's insane [16:52] so...i just need to boot this damn os [16:52] it won't solve it but it should help debugging: you could maybe get a log, and you can probably manage to sync your disks so you have the logs at next reboot [16:52] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.13.222) joined ##slackware. [16:53] there's liloconig but how the hell can i do it damn i can even boot the os [16:54] v4nelle (~van@79.103.135.146.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Camarade_Tux: that is extremely handy [16:54] boot into single user mode? [16:54] :-) [16:54] I'm almost sleeping now ;-) [16:54] can i set upo grub to boot properly? [16:55] rek: if you can not boot Slackware, then boot from the Slackware DVD, and read the information on-screen about landing into the OS on the hard disk [16:55] i'd like to be almost fu**** now [16:55] apparently no, you can not [16:56] andarius even creating something in boot/grub/menu.lst [16:57] Camarade_Tux: I'm going to lockup and reboot with SysRq, see if I can get something in a log [16:58] I dont think it has anything to do with the tools or the proceedure. I think it has to do with you NOT reading the ducmention or guides on what you are trying to accomplish [16:58] rek: ^^^^^^^^ [16:58] xenodrox (~xenodrox@156.110.35.114) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:59] is there a way to make modules in the initrd load with options? [17:00] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:00] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:01] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:01] rek (~rek@76.73.16.26) left irc: Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout) [17:01] Razec (1000@189-92-29-15.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-54.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] thrice`: as I understand it, the module should use options specified in /etc/modules.conf or the approprite file [17:04] I think the initrd is too early to know about /etc/modprobe.d [17:05] http://linux.die.net/man/8/mkinitrd [17:05] Any module options specified in /etc/modprobe.conf are passed to the modules as they are loaded by the initial ramdisk [17:05] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.214) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [17:06] mmm [17:06] though RH has an old bug report on it :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457870 [17:08] thrice`: yes it is possible [17:08] thrice`: vi /boot/initrd-tree/load_kernel_modules [17:09] Yeah, that should work - it's documented in the mkinitrd man page, I thought [17:09] i want KMS to load instantly, so I'm trying to add intel_agp + i915 to the initrd, but it doesn't seem to find my "options i915 modeset=1" in /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf [17:09] i gave up on that [17:10] unless i compile it in, i wont get KMS untill a couple of lines after init starts [17:10] mkinitrd -m "module option=value:module2" ... [17:11] macavity: I don't get it until after X is started here, so you're farther ahead than me. [17:11] I'm on stock kernels though [17:11] why not enable it by default? [17:11] Maybe, not sure if we're ready for that. [17:11] why? xorg depends on it [17:11] No it doesn't. [17:12] xorg + intel 2.10 do * [17:12] Newer intel driver supposedly does, but we're not there yet. [17:12] also it gives much crisper consoles :P [17:12] Indeed [17:13] vehn_z (~vehn_z@62.133.183.54) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:13] especially on modern monitors that doent do any of the vesa modes [17:13] havning 1024x786 shoehorned onto 1280x800 looks really ugly [17:15] alphad_ (~quassel@41.207.31.57) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:15] alphad (~alphad@41.207.31.57) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:15] isn't there a vesa mode for that? [17:15] pprkut: yes.. if Intel didnt chose to drop updates for your vbios back in 2006 :-/ [17:15] the new intel driver doesn't have user mode stuff anymore [17:16] macavity: so I take it you have tried the modes and they do not work? [17:16] pprkut: vga=ask -> try them all.. none became 1280x800 [17:17] rworkman, thanks, I'll try that. perhaps mkinitrd could be smart enough to read /etc/modprobe.d/ upon execution? ;) [17:17] pprkut: iirc, these other modes require VBE 3.0, and my vbios only exports 2.0 [17:18] macavity: well, sometimes vga=ask doesn't show all supported modes. Had that on one of my nvidia cards [17:18] in that case my vbios-fu is out of skillz :-/ [17:18] thrice`: well, I thought it was :/ [17:18] MadneX (~MadneX@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:19] macavity: 0x0360 and 0x0361 are the modes for my card for 1280x800. Maybe you can try them [17:19] macavity: hello :*; macavity = slackware expert + very patient person :) [17:19] maybe I suck. I was trying "mkinitrd -m jfs:intel_agp:i915" and thinking that once the initrd loaded, KMS would kick in [17:19] hello paul424 :-) [17:20] any luck yet? [17:20] with /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf containing "options i915 modeset=1" [17:20] tuvok302Lappy (~vircuser@S0106001c10c1d002.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:20] pprkut: roger, will try it out [17:20] thrice`: seems like I tried going down that road unsuccessfully too; let me know if it works out for you :) [17:20] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.83) joined ##slackware. [17:20] macavity: yeah fixed everything already :) [17:21] what about a lilo.conf append line, append="options i915 modset=1" [17:21] at least I'm remembering why I hate initrd's [17:22] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:22] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [17:23] i dont need reminding, i always build a kernel in such a way that i never need an initrd [17:23] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Pig_Pen: same here.. but it would be nice if people could do what they wanted without a custom kernel [17:24] Goliath (~goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) joined ##slackware. [17:24] i use the winetricks script, and got a dll. where is it saved? [17:24] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-143-255.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: see ya [17:24] Goliath: somewhere in .wine/ i belive [17:25] dErFz (znc@217.18.70.128) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Goliath: fine ~/.wine -name *.dll [17:25] Goliath: find ~/.wine -name *.dll [17:26] find ~/.wine -name "*.dll" [17:26] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [17:26] rworkman: were you developed by GNU? ;-) [17:27] find ~/.wine -iname "*.dll" [17:27] HA [17:27] Action: macavity rtfms [17:27] alienBOB: Thank you :) [17:27] Anytime ;-) [17:28] Thanks for taggin those facebook pics... did not even know you had uploaded them [17:28] alienBOB: I just uploaded them today; only a couple of years behind [17:29] Ah... [17:29] I put in a friend request to the IBM Campinas guy, but I don't know if he'll remember me at this point. Maybe so [17:29] macavity: i didnt find it [17:30] how can i search my whole system for this [17:30] sh0ne (~sh0ne@79.101.228.178) joined ##slackware. [17:30] /usr/lib/wine? [17:30] Goliath: try looking at the find command and see if you can figure it out [17:31] wrtfm [17:31] macavity: good answer :) [17:31] they call it fucken manual for a reson [17:31] reason [17:31] rworkman: I have emails from that Campinas manager in my mailbox still, I'll try and find the name [17:32] who wants to exchange their left shoulder with mine? [17:32] me [17:32] deal [17:32] whey do you want to change [17:32] dont worry about the pain though.. it usually goes away after a couple of days [17:33] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [17:34] screw this.. time for half an hour long hot shower [17:34] bbl gang [17:35] alienBOB: I found his name and added him as a friend, but I don't know if he will accept. He is on facebook [17:35] grazymax (~grazymax@host215-36-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:35] Ah... I misunderstood. Too tired [17:35] Immundus (~obi@e179139101.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: when in trouble when in doubt run in circles scream and shout [17:35] I feel ya. [17:36] I'm trying to catch up on work stuff from being sick over the last two weeks. I should stay off of facebook and irc and such :) [17:36] KDE SC 4.4.0 packages are built. Just in time for official release tomorrow (if that date does not slip) [17:37] \o/ [17:38] nvision_ (~nvision@e179136251.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:38] nvision (~nvision@g225048224.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:38] :) [17:38] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [17:39] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:39] did you bump to qt 4.6.1? 4.6 was crashy for me [17:40] oh my hero alienBOB is speaking. [17:40] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. 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[17:49] pprkut: I upgraded to v6, patched kdebase-runtime to autostart the virtuosoconverter and also added that as a package [17:49] phrag: the KDE 4.4.0 does not go into Slackware proper. I upload them to my own hide-out [17:50] yeh i use your builds, wondered if -current would take the leap [17:50] phrag: probably not [17:50] 4.4.0 up now? [17:50] Not yet [17:51] Still compiling the virtuosoconverter for 32-bit [17:51] what if we promise not to download them? ;) [17:51] ah cool, something bit buggy about 4.3.95 [17:51] hehe [17:51] And have to gpg-sign them and stuff... and think about a blog entry [17:52] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:52] thrice`: lol [17:52] alienBOB: awesome :) [17:53] quasi_ (~quasi@83-168-75-195.static.espol.com.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:54] quasi_ (quasi@83-168-75-195.static.espol.com.pl) left ##slackware. 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[19:32] hiya all [19:32] hey [19:32] hello JosephK [19:33] hey phrag [19:33] Got a question: I am doing a production box that will wind up having some standard accounts in addition to the default accounts that come with LINUX... A slackware machine.. I have started writing a script to auto-install the software I wrote, and part of it is the creation of user accounts and their directories.. [19:33] You will find this part of the script at http://www.pastie.org/814038 [19:33] pseudonymous (~icarus@82.211.203.74) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:33] Can anyone look at it and tell me if that will be a problem to do it like that?? [19:34] you shouldn't have to install software on a peruser basis and take a look into /etc/skel [19:34] well in this case I do for security purposes [19:34] My question is, will what I did in that script work?? [19:35] or will there be an error?? [19:35] yup, everything in /etc/skel gets copied in to every user account created [19:35] speculation is fine [19:35] do we have package with GNU Octave ? [19:35] hrmmm [19:35] I get ya [19:35] So I should also put the files in /etc/skel into the user directories also.. [19:36] joseph you might consider using the useradd command, since copying the passwd file like that will obliterate any other custom users that get created [19:36] useradd is easy to script [19:36] The only thing in /etc/skel is .screenrc [19:36] GooseYArd that's okay though... [19:37] I want to obliterate any users [19:37] its a template for your user directories [19:37] and replace them with those [19:37] useradd will also creat the homes and set the permissions rather than manualy doing it [19:37] this is not your normal linux box.. It has a set of specific functions [19:37] you make /etc/skel look like you want your users dirs to look like [19:37] I got ya [19:37] joseph another thing to watch for is that if one of the early commands fails, the rest will get run anyway [19:37] so you might like to check the return value to make sure they succeeded [19:38] I guess I want to be sure that replacing the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files will, in effect, create the users I need [19:38] yup [19:38] That's what I wanted to know [19:38] Thanks GooseYArd [19:38] On that note, it is time to heat up some Italian Wedding soup... I recommend it highly... Very good... [19:38] mmm [19:39] im a pasta fagioli man [19:39] but ill eat any of it [19:39] Action: rworkman has nailed some hot wings and beer. [19:39] More beer than wings. [19:39] any snow where you are mr workman [19:39] i'm having spaghetti for dinna [19:40] we've run out of beer and ive had too much wine to go on a beer run [19:41] good, you should be chill by the time the game is over [19:42] zalost (~keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] GooseYArd: bad planning there. ;) [19:42] bp yah its been complete chaos today [19:42] GooseYArd: no snow; it's not even terribly cold here (38°F) [19:43] and yes, that's *horrible* planning [19:43] this blasted snow has thrown the entire weekend into a debacle [19:44] Yeah, you guys have a LOT. [19:45] im snowed in with three girls so i locked myself into my shop [19:45] GooseYArd: where in the US are you [based on the "lot of snow" comment?] [19:45] HAHA [19:45] have been making sawdust all day [19:46] bp im about 5 miles from Dulles Airport in virginia [19:46] GooseYArd: right. ouch :) I read about the ammount of snow there. [19:47] now we're supposed to get another 6-12 on tuesday [19:47] i moved down here from boston to avoid this type of thing [19:48] ick [19:48] apparently el nino followed me [19:48] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:48] I just read that as "elmo followed me" Guess who has a toddler? :) [19:48] GooseYArd: are you prepared to go without electric for several days? better get some candles or some flashlights or lanterns and a method for cooking food if you have an electric stove/oven ( i have a coleman camp stove) [19:49] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [19:49] rworkman: hah how old are/is yours? [19:49] i have a 1 and a 3 [19:49] 2 1/2 and one due in June [19:49] bith girls :) [19:49] rworkman: ha-ha, one of the hazards of being a parent. I've got a 15 year old and a 7 year old. [19:50] Pig_Pen: nothing special but ill go mooch off my relatives if the power goes out [19:50] hitest: wow. Don't you feel old now? :) [19:50] yep:) [19:50] I *am* old [19:50] hehe [19:50] i keep thinking ill buy one of those natural gas generators [19:52] Probably a good idea [19:52] GooseYArd: heh, people in this country [UK], will get in a panic once we have about 1-2 inches of snow ;) [19:53] the country grinds to a halt! =P [19:54] people around here normally freak out at the first sign of snow [19:54] this might cure them though [19:54] ea_suter (~easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:54] phrag: the funnies part is when they go on about "blizzards" [19:54] howdy folks [19:54] we had 28 inches at christmas and 33 this time [19:54] kike7672 (1000@189.195.73.225) joined ##slackware. [19:55] my wife got real frisky while the power was out for four days, good thing she had a hysterectomy or we would be expecting another baby in 9 months, i am too old to be chasing after another little one [19:55] heh [19:55] rworkman: man ive got a pair of girls also [19:55] stonedslacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:55] rworkman: theyre awesome but man am I outnumbered [19:56] dchmelik (~d@71.93.27.3) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:57] I've got two girls as well......wait until your kids reach 15.....no wonder I have little hair [19:57] ahah [19:57] wait, I have no kids and no hair .. how you explain that :P [19:57] lucky? [19:57] hehehe [19:57] lol [19:57] :) [19:58] he wore it off doing U-turns under the covers [19:58] lol [19:58] ok, drive ordered *sigh* [19:58] HAHAHA [19:58] LOL, friction [19:59] GooseYArd: yeah, we can form a support group in about 12 years. We'll alternate nights - you bring the shotgun shells and I'll bring the beer. [19:59] ahah [20:00] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:00] rworkman: Can I get in on this? [20:00] I have shells and beer! [20:00] ive already decided, I'm signing them up for the smallbore league over at the NRA headquarters [20:00] hopefully if all three of us are good shooters, we'll stand a chance [20:00] matched Ruger MkIII's? :) [20:01] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:01] rworkman: I'm there. my 15 year old tells me that her boyfriend is afraid of me. I tell her: "He should be" [20:01] heh [20:01] :) [20:01] hitest: heheh .. other answer "oh good" ;) [20:01] heh [20:02] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-66-237.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] hitest in your best Master Yoda voice? [20:02] :) [20:02] of course:) [20:03] man this is some stage [20:03] or Darth Vader's voice [20:05] I was thinking of the scene when Luke says "I'm not afraid" and Yoda replies" You will be ... you will be" [20:05] that's a great scene [20:05] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-9-248.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:07] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [20:08] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:09] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:09] stonedslacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet? [20:10] stonedslacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [20:11] kike7672 (1000@189.195.73.225) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:11] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:12] yikes you guys are dorks. [20:12] Hey guys, I'm stuck in a text based world having to use links and epic to get my help. I'm having trouble find a channel for x server stuff. Suggestions? [20:12] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:13] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-9-248.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] necropresto (~necropres@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [20:13] Action: NyteOwl not a dork but is a geek :) [20:13] v4nelle (~van@79.103.135.146.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:14] stonedslacker (1002@cpe-075-181-025-034.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:14] stonedslacker: have you tried X -configure ? [20:14] stonedslacker, you need to kill the final boss to free the princess and get out of the text-based world [20:14] hitest: nice :) [20:15] rworkman: thanks:) [20:15] guax: text-based world is not so bad [20:16] Action: guax jumps over necropresto head to get some coins [20:16] Action: righteous ....doesn't say it.... [20:16] ascii pr0n sucks tho [20:16] phrag: links -g [20:16] phrag, framebuffer [20:16] B) [20:17] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:20] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-74-217.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:21] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-74-217.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Action: guax takes the glass of bier and say Prosit! to everyone :D [20:26] cheers to you as well, guax:) [20:26] thanks :) [20:26] does anyone know why "find . -name *txt" wouldnt find anything but "find . -name somefile.txt" would find a bunch of files. I'm using zsh [20:27] find . -name "*.txt" [20:27] ah [20:27] is that zsh specific? [20:27] because of the blob? [20:27] um, I don't think so. maybe? [20:28] hmm [20:28] well, thanks anyways [20:28] lol, sorry, I'm too lazy to make a bunch of .txt files, change shells, and try [20:29] yeah, it works in bash without the quotes [20:29] thats weird [20:30] guys, im trying gentoo. i may not be back. [20:30] oh no! [20:30] oh noes [20:30] please, don't leave us righteous [20:31] Action: righteous puts on his mad max outfit [20:32] -O1337 [20:32] Action: Reticenti puts on his wizard hat and robe [20:32] -OMG-OPTIMIZED [20:33] Reticenti: :) [20:34] Action: Reticenti casts spell of dropped panties on BP{k} [20:34] Action: righteous knows BP{k} knows not of dropped panties [20:34] I cast magic missile [20:34] what kind of changes will I notice from a slackware->gentoo conversion? [20:34] i show YOU my magic missle [20:35] if you know what i mean [20:35] conversion/migration [20:35] I do, but I didn't bring my microscope [20:35] :( [20:35] \me casts grow [20:36] oops, wrong slash [20:36] writing a latex document and emoting on irc dont mix :\ [20:37] LnxSlck (1000@92.250.65.155) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:38] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:38] ok, the entire premise of gentoo sucks. [20:38] nevermind. :/ [20:38] Action: righteous sits back down [20:39] no one said it sucks [20:39] Reticenti: be sure you dont have *.txt in your current dir [20:39] we just cast out -OOMGNESS [20:39] bbiab [20:39] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [20:39] necropresto: huh? [20:39] oh [20:39] right lol [20:40] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [20:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-9-248.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:40] `Dante` (~dante@72.94.198.109) joined ##slackware. [20:41] ooh, it makes you build your kernel [20:41] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Client Quit [20:41] i can build my kernel [20:41] :D [20:43] it's really not that hard [20:43] ok, going sleep [20:43] if i can, any idiot can [20:43] righteous, is this an indirect? :| [20:43] righteous: any another idiot [20:44] like guax [20:44] necropresto, go grab your teddy bear kiddo [20:44] :P [20:44] necropresto, dont make me post pictuers boy [20:44] guax: im watching big brother [20:44] necropresto, yep, any idiot, even guax. [20:44] :| [20:44] ...lol [20:45] i was going to search for photos of necropresto sleeping with a teddy bear, but lazyness took controll of my mind now. bye folks [20:45] guax: go to hell [20:46] hcfd (~fed@host86-131-169-87.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:46] necropresto, ahuaeuhaehuaehu, you should have think of that the time you made the shit, not now [20:47] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [20:48] Greyhound_ (Greyhound@79.114.26.141) joined ##slackware. [20:48] Razec (1000@189-92-29-15.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:51] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.26.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:53] correcaminos (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [20:55] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [20:55] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Client Quit [20:55] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. 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[21:23] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) joined ##slackware. [21:23] man I think I already prefer tmux to screen [21:24] really? [21:24] why? [21:24] tmux is rather spiffy [21:25] the terminal flipping feels faster [21:25] i might just be imagining it [21:25] the console window manager? [21:25] twm [21:25] ? [21:25] wtf is tmux? [21:25] its the openbsd version of gnu screen [21:25] a terminal multiplexer [21:25] how is that better? [21:26] better than screen or better than not using one? [21:26] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tmux [21:26] it's about the same, but different license [21:26] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-129.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:26] ive had a couple of chronic problems with screen that took forever to resolve [21:26] why doesn lmgtfy need javascript [21:26] although I think I resolved the second one today [21:27] GooseYArd: whats the problems? [21:27] how is it better and worth installin? [21:28] pipes one was a weird race with emacs and xon/xoff [21:28] GooseYArd: that does sound weird :\ [21:28] i was constantly running emacs and hitting ctrl-s before emacs had the terminal, so the terminal would get the ctrl-s , emacs would start, and I couldnt get the ctrl-q to the terminal [21:29] eventually I just turned flow control off in screen [21:29] http://tmux.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/tmux/tmux/FAQ <- mrpwnage first question int he FAQ [21:29] but ultimately, tmux is bsd licensed rather than GPL [21:29] the other was when i left irssi running in a disconnected screen, then reconnected, screen would hang [21:29] "nonblock on" is reported to fix that [21:30] choppernator (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [21:30] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:31] mrp: im using the screen-equivalence tmux.conf, other than the cool little tmux status bar i dont think I'd be able to tell i wasnt using screen :) [21:31] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:32] Nick change: choppernator -> chopp [21:36] and you are on linux? [21:36] slackware i hope [21:36] zalost (~keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:37] I understand it's more familiar, though.. [21:37] if you are adapting linux, why not use what linux has to offer such as screen. Is tmux better? [21:37] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:37] escaflown (~elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] alkos333 (~alkos333@adsl-75-57-117-145.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:42] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:42] back sorry [21:42] well there's already a tmux slackbuild [21:42] leaky valves? [21:43] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:43] well there ya go. [21:43] 'linux' offers screen? [21:44] also screens always been a little sketchy about terminal resizing following a detach/reattach, although its probably also fixable [21:44] GooseYArd: have you attempted -raAd [21:44] ? [21:45] as you specified man is our friend. :D [21:46] ea_suter (~easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:47] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [21:47] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:47] yup [21:48] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [21:48] well -raAd should adapt to the terminal you are in. is it not? [21:49] console or otherwise I haven't had a problem with it getting the screen resolution. [21:49] Inomanius (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [21:50] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:50] hi! How do i make Dolphin the default file-manager in xfce slackware 13? [21:50] yah resize hasn't been a chronic problem, just an occasional irritation [21:51] dont worry though, screen and I are still on good terms [21:51] escaflown (elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [21:56] okay, good. I'll take you off my christmas list. [21:57] Own up. He wasen't really on the list to begin with was he? [21:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [22:03] I didnt get one last year [22:03] Inomanius (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:05] slackwarebob (~bobby@76.249.232.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:09] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [22:10] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.16) joined ##slackware. [22:10] tuvok302Lappy (vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-208.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] ew, god, the gentoo guys are even more nerdy than this bunch is. ok, i'll stick with slack. [22:11] lol [22:11] too late [22:11] hah [22:13] You are banished from Slack. [22:13] Hang your head low and leave. [22:13] no way man [22:13] he's made the right call [22:14] ^ see? [22:14] And GooseYArd knows all. [22:14] By nerdy I guess you mean a false sense of leetness. [22:14] Well...ok, just don't defect again [22:14] im a nerd, but gentoo people make me look like marlon brando [22:14] no, by nerdy i mean 'my distro forces me to know shit i shouldnt have to know' [22:14] oh, please do.. please do [22:15] those guys gets upset if they can't use every gcc flag [22:15] damit i just want my ati card to work :/ [22:16] i feel for you man [22:16] make it work as a door stop. :) [22:16] sluttyduck (~slut@74.215.29.198) joined ##slackware. [22:16] video cards are nothing but a pain in the ass [22:16] ive been using win7 since october. [22:17] because i cant get this eggin card to work [22:17] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:17] strange.. i know eviljames has his latest-of-the-line working [22:18] sure it's not just an RTFG/PEBKAC issue? [22:19] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:20] righteous: i have nvidia but this might be worth a look ati/amd git repo http://www.phorogit.com/index.php?p=fglrx-packaging.git [22:20] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.209.97) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Rat409, lol the readme for the slackware stuff is in spanish [22:22] wait that's italian [22:23] spaghetti! [22:23] what if its a spanish written in italian [22:23] sorry then,a shot in the dark,was fwiw [22:23] the ati dirtbags dropped my poor old crappy card [22:23] well....let's try debian and see if the test works [22:23] the scripts speak for them selves [22:24] its pretty easy to see what is going on [22:24] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:24] uhm, for you maybe. [22:24] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [22:25] im a huge fan of the 2d drivers in the kernel [22:25] GooseYArd, im a huge fan of whichever will let me use compiz first....or really even a working X at a decent resolution [22:26] GooseYArd: uhm, THAT is a simplification bordering to misinformation [22:26] i havent got any idea what you're talking about [22:27] i like the plain old ati/nvidia kernel 2d drivers [22:27] Nimrod (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [22:27] ive been using nouveau on this box and i love it [22:28] again, there are no 2d drivers in the kernel [22:28] sure there are [22:28] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) joined ##slackware. [22:28] negatory, there are KMS/DRM drivers in the kernel [22:28] bailey@mahnmut:~/slackbuild/emacs-cvs$ lsmod | grep nouveau [22:28] nouveau 437221 2 [22:28] lol@emacs [22:29] hah sorry was in the middle of building that [22:29] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [22:29] the 2d driver is still provided by xorg, and the 3d driver provided by Mesa (or 3rd party) [22:29] hello #slackware! [22:29] howto setup cups? [22:29] Nimrod: read /etc/rc.d/rc.cups [22:29] macavity, relax [22:30] you sound like a gentoo guy [22:30] lol, i am relaxed [22:30] macavity, tnx [22:31] usus12jari (~ashe@114.56.114.112) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:31] calling the KMS/DRM driver a 2d driver totally wrong.. as that driver also provides the infrastructure that both the 2d (xf86-video-$VENDOR) and the 3d (Mesa/Gallium) driver need to function [22:32] Nimrod: start cups, and connect with your browser via http://localhost:631 . login as root. [22:32] s/also// [22:32] dangerseeker (~dangersee@p57A8F580.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:33] im totally wrong then [22:33] ananke, okey. I would try that [22:33] anyhow, I like nouveau [22:34] i havent played with it yet, but it looks very promissing [22:34] actually i find it rather confusing that they named the kernel driver and the userland driver the same.. they should have called the one you are talking about knouveau or some such [22:35] sounds too kde-ish :P [22:35] eg, my kernel part is called i945, and the xorg driver is plainly called "intel" [22:35] i find gallium confusing [22:35] `Dante` (~dante@72.94.198.109) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [22:35] oh, it is untill it clicks in [22:36] when you finally get the simplisity of it you go "ohhh... why the hell didnt i think of that?!?" [22:37] so lets see how many modules that is then [22:38] ive got a kms/drm kernel module, nouveau [22:38] check [22:38] ive got the userspace driver for xort, xf86-video-nouveau [22:38] check [22:39] now I've got mesa, and I've got another module there which the nouveau guys do something with, nouveau_dri.so [22:39] which is used by gallium [22:39] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [22:40] the mesa state tracker is not a hardware driver per se [22:40] which is the interface that mesa uses to use 3d hardware [22:40] the nouveau_dri is [22:41] nouveau_dri is a hardware driver that translates TGSI into hardware commands [22:41] your mesa is actually a state tracker.. that is, it is classic mesa, but rigged to output TGSI [22:41] so is mesa the only component in my stack that will use gallium directrly?? [22:41] sorry double ? [22:41] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-24-12-213-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] the confusing thing is that "there is no gallium" [22:42] gallium is a specification [22:42] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:42] ok good [22:42] so, mesa-tracker spits out TGSI, nouveau_dri translates that to hardware commands [22:43] so whats the relationship if any between nouveau_dri and the nouveau drm kernel module? [22:43] and every time a new statetracker (eg, the up comming DirectX state tracker) comes along, you hardware will be automatically supported [22:43] the kernel module has raw controll over the hardware [22:44] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:44] the user space driver (_drm.so) uses the exported interface to signal what it would like to have done [22:44] .. and the Xorg driver too for that matter [22:44] userland should not be allowed to directly poke at hardware registers [22:45] when all components have been moved to KMS, we dont have to have X suid root any more [22:45] thanks for ya help [22:45] :-) [22:45] Nimrod (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:45] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] and when all hardware has a gallium compliant driver, all new languages supported will work on all hardware [22:46] digesting [22:46] because the state trackers emit TGSI, which the gallium driver translates (ok, this IS the simplified version) [22:47] eventually we will be able to ditch the 2d drivers entirely [22:47] everything would be gl-based i assume [22:47] and Xorg will just use a dummy driver that translates X commands into TGSI too [22:47] no, not GL based.. anything->TGSI based :P [22:47] ahh ok [22:49] this three component stack we have now is somewhat annoying, as it gives code duplication and complexity that we really have no technical need for [22:50] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:50] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:51] basically you could sit down and write your own graphics language (or whatever else you want your GPU to handle).. if it emits TGSI it will work on all the gallium hardware drivers [22:51] ok now im looking at a diagram [22:52] app->mesa->state tracker->some_ri_driver [22:52] er some_dri_driver [22:54] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:54] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [22:54] is david koenig in here? [22:54] where does the state tracker code live? [22:55] GooseYArd: http://www.lunarg.com/wordpress/technologies/gallium-3d/gallium3d-online-developers-workshop/ [22:56] aha [22:57] GooseYArd: currently it is masked as "classic mesa with dri" so libGL.so works in a mixed-mode fashion, where some drivers are classic and others are gallium [22:57] ok [22:57] but from the mailing list i saw that libGL and GLX are being split [22:58] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] and TGSI is protocol between whatever state tracker, say libGL, and some hardware driver [22:58] i figure that those libs will eventually just become "stubs" that load the real thing [22:58] ? [22:59] currently, if i understand it correctly, yes [22:59] ok now this is making sense [23:00] I think my confusion was a result of how many times the word "driver" is used in this model [23:00] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:00] naturally there is an ammount of not-covered-here ugliness because sometimes more than one language need the GPU at the same time, so there is some chit-chatter back and forth.. and this is what this whole state-tracking thing is about [23:00] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [23:00] yup [23:01] but when we get rid of the classic xorg 2d drivers, this all gets a lot easier [23:01] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:01] eventually we may be able to get rid of xorg entirely [23:02] that is, for the 99.99% of the time where the server and the client is running on the same machine [23:02] looking at these slides, the project to have the xserver use gallium is "EXA" [23:02] this is where the confoooosion starts :P [23:03] ep0ch (~epoch@one.bad.mother.fucker.it) joined ##slackware. [23:03] dont mix that up with what your hardware is currently using [23:03] mix what up [23:03] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.209.97) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:03] tener (~root@c-68-63-51-239.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:03] tener kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [23:04] my current 2d driver uses UXA.. so i went "wtf mate?" [23:04] but again, that has nothing to do with it :P [23:04] oh i se [23:04] e [23:05] tener (~tener@c-68-63-51-239.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] okay... [23:05] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:07] okay what? :P [23:07] i have to install activinspire (prometheanplanet.com)... i have a username blah blah blah.. .problem is they only support ubuntu. they don't give a specific *.deb to install. they just give a video. the video shows (without sound) how to install a repo and get activinspire... i run zenwalk (with netpkg). how can i install this pkg? [23:09] moreover, how do i install an ubuntu package in zenwalk? from an ubuntu repo? without installing ubuntu? [23:09] find the repo via ftp, download the .deb, run deb2tgz, installpkg it, and pray [23:09] why tener was booted from ##slakware by slackboy? [23:09] mica_: he was root when he first entered [23:09] mica_: because i accidently logged in from root [23:10] tener: observe that very few of us here know anything about zenwalk [23:10] sorry [23:10] tener: that is some 3rd party package manager for slackware, right? [23:10] .. and not an ourtight slackware fork? [23:10] i know almost nothing about zenwalk myself.. it just seemed like i'd like it [23:10] Nick change: mica_ -> root [23:10] *outright [23:10] Nick change: root -> mica_ [23:11] root: not username.. hostmark: tener [~root@c-68-63-51-239.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##slackware [23:11] mica_: ^^^ [23:11] it was one of those "hmm... i've got 20gig spare... i'll give this a shot" things [23:11] tener: so it is a 3rd party package manager? [23:11] yeah yeah [23:11] Action: mica_ thinking rationally. No sense of humor ! [23:12] heh [23:12] what seems a little screwy about the gallium model is that people who may have previously just been coding on say the xorg driver for some variety of video hardware [23:12] oh no that wont matter so much [23:13] macavity: not sure about that one... activinspire said they support linux for a long time now... i always thought that meant (since they're closed source) that they give out *.bin's... but no... idk [23:13] the "gallium" driver will work pretty much anywhere [23:13] tener: Zenwalk is its own distro... you are in the wrong channel [23:13] but they'll wind up writing a kernel kms driver, a kernel drm driver, a gallium dri driver (probably in mesa) [23:13] macavity: zenwalk is slackware with xfce builtin... [23:14] slackware has xfce builtin [23:14] zenwalk is not slackware.. it is a fork.. we dont know what they changed [23:14] macavity: ok... zenwalk is slackware ++ (one + for xfce and the other for netpkg) [23:14] no [23:14] zenwalk is something not slackware [23:15] we give the same answer to Backtrack and SLAX users.. we dont know what they changed, we dont support it, please ask in ##zenwalk [23:16] macavity: you're right... i'll just go ask the five users in there who want answers themselves instead of just getting the answers from the core linux.... is this a joke? [23:16] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-204-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:16] tener: this is ##slackware, not zen, not SLAX, and definitely not Backtrack [23:16] no it is not a joke.. i have *no* idea how to deal with a system that has had the standard slackware package tools substituted with netpkg [23:17] macavity: the "standard" pkg tools? like "make" and "make install [23:17] ? [23:17] you're shitting me.... [23:17] tener (~tener@c-68-63-51-239.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:17] lol [23:18] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [23:18] newbies always read "based on slackware" as "slackware with minor cosmetic changes" [23:18] tener: hate to burst your bubble, but those are NOT packages tools :) [23:18] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:19] rage quit for sure :) [23:19] dont you find it funny when you tell them the distro they installed is not supported here and they get irrate with you [23:19] lol [23:19] he will be back within a week... [23:19] ep0ch (~epoch@one.bad.mother.fucker.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:19] :) [23:19] macavity, stop forcing people out of the channel. [23:19] new nick, and dir-hard maintaing that he is using slackware.. untill he says "installpkg? i dont have that" [23:20] just simply ask them to join ubunti [23:20] macavity: stop doing that it's .. wait jeev [23:20] huh [23:20] mrpwnage: what is jeev? [23:20] a troll [23:20] lol [23:20] in your dreams [23:20] oh, is he talking to me? [23:20] take your free shell account somewhere else wanker [23:20] my dreams you are dead while i .. [23:21] lulz... good luck jeev, i got fed up with your acid remarks a coupld of days a go [23:21] jeev: you couldn't get a free shell although you have tried. [23:21] mrpwnage, i have more servers than you have hair on your head, i dont need a free shell [23:21] it is sad really that you are not only a wanker though a jelous one. [23:21] that's fine macavity, maybe now you can't rat me out without notifying the person of the other perp. [23:22] jeev: does that make you less of an idiot? [23:22] mrpwnage, hahaha im jealous of your free shell [23:22] i know this is a random off-topic question, but does anyone here know if there is a way to moderate wall posts on Facebook rather than just deleting them after they are displayed publicly? i know that you can completely block people from writing on your wall, but that seems extreme. [23:22] jeev: yes you are [23:22] in your dreams [23:22] mrpwnage: please stop feeding the troll :P [23:23] heh [23:23] i feed idiots because they grow into adult idiots. then you are their only friend [23:23] man i turned off channel join/parts and I have no idea what the fuck is going on [23:23] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:23] then since you are the idiots only friend they will be your idiot. it's my experiment anyway. [23:24] mrpwnage, i dont know who your ass is and where you appeared from but you've just entered my idiot list [23:24] mrpwnage: can you run your experience in a less noisy manner then? ;-) [23:24] jeev: all i see is your idiocracy [23:24] *experiment [23:25] ohhh.. i see i need an OP now [23:25] macavity: i'm just being as loud as him is all [23:25] mrpwnage: you have an IQ larger then your shoe size, so you should hold yourself better than that ;-) [23:25] offtopic: hollywood's description of IRC ... "its how hackers talk" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ [23:25] macavity: ? [23:26] tank-man, yea we saw that a while back [23:26] bleh, i wish i could incorporate hotkeys like Ctrl+U into FireFox. [23:26] underline? [23:26] instead of accidently opening the html view all the time on accident [23:26] tank-man: to clear all text before the cursor [23:26] what I want to know is what bomb went off so that every human being has ran to the Slackware bombshelter. [23:27] like if i was using a terminal(or irssi, which is where the habit comes from) [23:27] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-18-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:27] including the cruft [23:28] used to be able to come in and help people now we have jeev telling us this and that. [23:28] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-129.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [23:28] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:28] i'd rather the asshole leave and we get back to helping people with real trouble. [23:28] not sure if anyone else feels the same [23:29] ever hear of "plonk" or /ignore ? :) don't let him know you are ticked [23:30] no this is our channel [23:30] hey ill make up a difficult problem [23:30] he doesn't have enough right to come in and make us ignore him [23:30] let me think [23:31] if you knew how much he did it you would understand. [23:32] enjoy the silence [23:32] Depeche Mod3e [23:32] ever [23:32] ;) [23:32] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 622 seconds [23:33] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:34] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:34] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:35] hey im trying to find the fastest way to fuck up my slackware box, can anyone help? [23:35] GooseYArd, :D [23:35] remove the hard drive [23:35] GooseYArd: are you trying to get someone banned? :P [23:35] macavity, almost certainly :) [23:35] no, leaving the chan you will do that [23:35] macavity: i've come to realize they are both douches. [23:36] fastest is 9.8m/s/s [23:36] GooseYArd: something that involves finding random files, and overwriting random segments with output from /dev/urandom [23:36] no i thought id establish a dialogue [23:36] let gravity do the work [23:36] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] GooseYArd, well my suggestion is to spray it with a garden hose [23:36] GooseYArd: I thought you were the bsd man. you know about linux [23:36] right? [23:36] aha [23:36] i dont know if ive actually ever used bsd [23:36] are you just trying to incite trouble also"?: [23:37] ut (toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [23:37] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [23:37] of course [23:37] typically (gay) bsd users do that. [23:38] no i take it back, i had an alphastation that i ran netbsd on for a while [23:38] mrpwnage: why the fuck do you poke people like that? [23:38] he's a 'tard, he can't help it [23:38] because, i like to know their intent [23:38] you are no better then the trouble makers... [23:39] calling for trouble == making trouble [23:39] he's been threatening to take me off his christmas card list [23:39] then who is because we are all talking now? [23:39] so, PM them if you feel like getting to know them [23:39] GooseYArd: lol [23:39] macavity: I don't care who you favor. [23:39] alright i cant stay awake [23:40] prof. macavity i appreciate the gallium walkthrough, thats been bothering me for months [23:40] lol :-) [23:40] I tell what is on my mind and is as far as i'm concerned right. [23:41] obviously... people generally dont support something they think is wrong [23:41] ? [23:41] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-167-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] i really don't care about your plause [23:42] nor am i gonna argue with you [23:42] good [23:42] ^^ [23:44] So, I've got myself a UPS to mess with... and KDE doesn't seem to be able to detect it. [23:44] just delete / would be the fastest way to mess up system? :-D [23:44] O_o [23:44] salt: need to make sure the driver is installed or the daemon that polls the serial port [23:44] NaCl: i surely hope you want your UPS to work outside of KDE? [23:44] actually, that may be slow :-P [23:44] macavity: uhm, yes. [23:44] alisonken1home++ [23:45] alisonken1home: I'm using the network ups tools, trying to get HAL to cooperate. [23:45] fhobia: oh, overwriting the first few hundred KB of the raw device node that holds the interesting partitions would work wonders too :P [23:46] 8) [23:47] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:47] aaaaan I'm off to work [23:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-24-12-213-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:50] fhobia: may i suggest using dd and reading input from /dev/urandom :P [23:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-24-12-213-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] NaCl: What kind of ups? [23:52] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-19.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:52] Cyberpower 1500AVR [23:52] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:54] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:54] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:54] bah. I'll just use the serial port. [23:54] Action: NaCl crawls under his desk [23:54] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [23:55] slackwarebob (~bobby@adsl-76-249-231-227.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] And... my computer doesn't have a serial port [23:57] heh [23:57] lol [23:57] ouch [23:58] usb? [23:58] well, yeah [23:58] usbserial driver? [23:59] Well, here's the thing. [23:59] I have the HAL drivers installed. And the HAL says that it sees the UPS [00:00] --- Mon Feb 8 2010